Lots of people, and a lot of the mainstream media are staying focused on any new developments involving the little 10 year old girl, Zahra Baker from North Carolina that has a smile that just shines everywhere. Her little freckled faced smile would melt anyone’s heart. She was reported missing on October 9, 2010.
The case was originally investigated as a kidnapping case because of a ransom note demanding $1 million, which was why an Amber alert was issued. They changed the case to a homicide case after Zahra’s stepmother, Elisa Baker admitted to police that she actually wrote the note herself. A Grand Jury has handed down an indictment against her saying Elisa Baker unlawfully, willfully and feloniously did with deceit and intent to defraud police investigation, obstruct justice by constructing and placing a false ransom letter and reporting an abduction of her stepdaughter. Zahra Baker. Elisa Baker is now being held in jail on a $97,200 bond after a judge deemed her a flight risk.
Zahra Baker was a special little girl that has fought for her life when she was diagnosed as having bone cancer in which she lost part of her leg causing her to have to use a prosthetic leg and she wore a hearing aid also.
During the search for this little girl a prosthetic leg had been found in a wooded area and police had been waiting for confirmation of the serial numbers on it matching the same as the one found but they have received the news that most expected unfortunately. It was the leg that Zahra wore.
Now the police are reporting that they have found a bone which they seem to think could possibly be related to the case. They say they have sent it to the state medical examiner’s office to see if it can be matched to Zahra. The bone apparently was found in Caldwell County close to where the family used to live.
The owner of a website claims to have two letters written by Elisa Baker that he wants to sell. He says in the letter she says her stepdaughter Zahra is dead and that her husband did something horrifying to her after her death. He quotes from one of the letters:
“We didn’t really kill her but what he did after the fact is kind of horrifying. Makes me scared of him.â€
Hickory Police Deputy Chief Clyde Deal says they couldn’t confirm if the letters are authentic until they can compare them with other samples of Elisa’s hand writing.
Are any of these clues going to help find Zahra? Is her father and stepmother guilty of doing something horrific to this precious child? No one knows yet for sure but I do know this much. Most people have made their minds up as to who the guilty ones are. As in other missing children cases, from what evidence is given to the public, usually a solution to a crime is made. So many people make their own decisions. For instance the Haleigh Cummings case has stirred up so many opinions, but will we ever really know what happened to her? Is there ever going to be any justice for Haleigh?
Will there be any justice for Zahra if she is ever found? The sad question is will any of these children ever be found? Besides justice they, if they are indeed no longer with us, at least deserve a decent burial too.
For now America, all we can do is wait and put it in God’s hands. I don’t know what else we can do. I continue praying for Zahra Baker, Adji Desir, Haleigh Cummings and all the other missing children. They are still out there somewhere, maybe not alive but they are still out there waiting to be found. I pray that one day someone will speak up in each case that will help find them to bring them home. God bless them all!
Jan Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackMy heart is broken with the latest breaking news. When I arrived home, I turned on the news to discover that a human bone had been discovered in the area that the prosthetic leg was recovered. From what has been reported, that stretch of road is only two miles long. The leg was recovered about halfway so the bone was less than a mile to a mile away (not a very vast distance). I am certain that the medical examiner’s office and state will expedite this request for processing and DNA testing. We all know the inevitable – that she is gone for good. But I guess there is a small part of my heart still rooting for her and wishing beyond all hope that she was still alive and in the care of someone else (not even possible but I hope).
On a different note, Adam Baker was evicted from his home yesterday. The landlord has publicly declared that the house is now uninhabitable (due to the crime scene processing) however he would not state the reason for eviction (gee, I wonder what due cause he could state?). Upon Adam’s return to the house to collect a suitcase (in the company of his mother, brother and attorney) he was met with a large crowd of onlookers/neighbors that shouted obscenities and threats throughout the duration of his visit. I’m truly surprised that’s all they did.
I’m sure I am reporting things that everyone has already discovered. But should anyone like local links to breaking news on this case, please let me know and I’d be happy to post the most up-to-date resources available in our area.
On a personal note, I guess I’m one of those people that thought “never in my community”. I have followed Caylee from day one (I wish I had the psychological credentials to analyize that bunch) and have checked the status of Haleigh on a regular basis (where does one begin with all the drug use/selling). I just never thought in my lifetime that such a case would ever occur here and so close to home. (I know that’s what everyone says.) I remember Susan Smith (in SC) and how I would have driven to get those two little boys in a heartbeat. And I guess the same goes for Zahra,Caylee, Haleigh and all the others. For God’s sake, if you don’t want the child leave them in a Wal-Mart if nothing else! You don’t have to kill them! There are plenty of parents around (myself included) that would take them in a moments notice!
Thanks to all for letting me vent. This story has just really struck too close to home.
Good morning. I think these killers want to kill these kids to hurt someone. They don’t want to merely “get rid of them.” This child may have died up in that attic. Hopefully we will find out for sure. No matter what took her life her dad’s a real winner. Not.
AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT BELIEVES THE TREE CHIPPER HAS HAD A PART IN THIS COVERUP? THE FIRST DAY OUT THE CADAVER DOGS HIT ON THAT TREE CHIPPER! ALL ALONG I HAVE THOUGHT DADDY COVERED UP FOR STEPMOMMIE, AND USED THAT CHIPPER TO GET RID OF ZAHRA! I THINK ELISA (STEPMOMMIE) KILLED HER, MAYBE TOOK THE ABUSE TOO FAR ONE DAY AND ADAM (DADDY) HAD TO TAKE CARE OF IT TO HOLD ON TO HIS SOULMATE AS HE PROCLAIMED ON FACE BOOK! GOD HAVE MERCY ON THEM IF THATS WHAT HAS HAPPENED, I KNOW THAT NO ONE ELSE WILL! REST IN GODS HANDS ZAHRA.
Peggy Sue – I thought that was the case too (chipper being used) but someone posted on here that if that were the case LE would have been able to tell as there would be a LOT of DNA everywhere and there would be no way to clean the chipper up well enough to hide the evidence. I don’t understand why the dogs hit on it though. Does make you wonder!
The fact they found a bone is creepy. She hasn’t been gone that long so wouldn’t there be tissue still on it? I’m sorry this sounds so morbid! But I would think there would be more left than just a bone. Decomposition doesn’t happen that fast.
I just hope they figure this out, charge the people responsible and get a conviction. It is too late to help Zahra but I hope this case sends a very strong message to all of us. If you suspect abuse SCREAM IT FROM THE ROOFTOP until SOMEONE in authority listens. Saying nothing and doing nothing makes you as responsible for the death of that child as the ones that kill them. Do whatever you have to in order to get that child to safety and out of harm’s way!
You could be right. He could have put her little body thru the chipper. Also, that fire was started for a purpose too. The idiots tried to make it look like the “kidnappers took the wrong child.”
The fire could have been used to burn Zahra’s clothing or other evidence as well. If she bled on clothing, bedding, etc., they could have burned that in the fire. I think they killed her days or weeks before she was reported missing and the fire, the ransom note, the kidnapping fiasco was all hatched up after the fact as their cover-up. They got rid of the mattress which to me says she died on the bed and there was evidence on it. Something with decomp on it had to be put through the chipper for the dogs to hit on it but I don’t know what. If she died on the bed then decomp would be on the mattress. If they used the vehicle to transport the mattress to the dump then that could be why the dogs hit on the vehicle. But the chipper is a little more difficult to explain. Was there furniture or something that had blood or decomp on it that they ran through the chipper?
Elisa’s letter says they didn’t kill her but it sounds like Zahra was dismembered after her death. That would explain the bone that LE found if it turns out to belong to Zahra. I think they probably had the body in the house for a few days trying to figure out what to do. When they moved her they realized the mattress was ruined. They hatched this stupid kidnapping plan together, got rid of the body, the mattress, got rid of other evidence in the chipper, and ditched her body and leg. But they weren’t as smart as they thought they were. And the fact that LE is taking walls down in that house means either their is blood splatter or other evidence of violence or they were looking for Zahra’s body to be hidden in the house. I’m sure LE used luminol in the house and probably found blood splatter and thus took the walls as evidence.
Elisa admits that Zahra is dead and they disposed of her. But she still thinks she should be out of jail and free as a bird. The fact that she can write a letter so matter of factly about the death of a child sends chills down my spine. Shocking doesn’t even cover it.
Okay, so if what Elisa says is true and they didn’t kill Zahra, then how exactly did this child die? And why cover up the death if it was from illness, injury or accident? Sorry, not buying it!
Hi, Jan!
Thank you for another great article!
Your compassion and heart shows through when you reference all of the other missing children.
I am still very disappointed that Adji Desir did not get ample media attention.
My prayers and thoughts are with the missing children and I do hope they are found one day. Also, that justice prevails eventually in each and every case.
JB you have stated everything I was thinking. I don’t buy the we did not really kill her either. The WE, says it was both of them.I am anxiously waiting the results to come back on the bone.
LFJ – Elisa wrote another letter saying Adam had no part in what happened. The fact that LE took walls, floors, furniture and portions of the ceiling from that house tells me something AWFUL happened there. There has to be blood splatter or something for them to take all of that out of the house. I don’t think Zahra died a peaceful death. I’m inclined to believe she was beat to death by the stepmonster and the dad helped her cover up the crime. Elisa is a psychopath. That much is obvious from her letters. There is zero compassion for Zahra. Everything is very matter of fact, and ALL about her (HER sleeping on the floor, everyone hates HER, SHE shouldn’t be in jail, SHE is the one who has lost everything, SHE is the one who is suffering). There is no remorse, no sadness, no anguish over what happened to Zahra or the loss of life. STRANGERS have more compassion over the loss of life than Elisa does for the child she was helping to raise. She is an older version of Casey Anthony. Diabolical, queen of liars, self-absorbed, self-serving, deceitful, defiant, and STUPID. They both THINK they are really smart but they are actually completely clueless and don’t realize everyone sees right through their crap! They need to put Elisa in GP for a few hours and then question her again. She might be willing to give a full confession. And they need to throw Adams butt in jail too!
Jan thanks for the update.This is a very sad,an heart touching of a struggle to survive,just to be murdered..Ill never understand how someone can harm a child.The smile through all the pain,an suffering.Shows she had such a will to live.I hope which ever one took that from her when proven, that they get the toughest sentence avalible.NO excuses for this.Ill bet this precious child craved love,an attention an recived nothing.That makes me so angry!!!.Im so sick of those who prey on the weak an defencless.I wish it was when someone reached out to harm a child.That they would just drop dead.Because ANY one who would harm someone so precious.Does NOT deserve to live.Let the truth be revealed quickly,an justice be swift.
Off Topic–regarding Haleigh:
Anyone think there’s any link *at all* between Haleigh and the arrest of the three “23rd St. Gang” members in Putnam and other counties? Just wondering.
Thugs – who are the “23rd St. Gang” and what were they arrested for? Hadn’t heard anything about this and have no idea who these people are or what they were charged with.
ThugCops4Christ – I found an article about this arrest but I’m not sure how you are connecting it with Haleigh’s case…other than they may have been selling drugs just like Ron and Misty. Are you thinking these guys or some of their gang members snagged Haleigh in retaliation or something? Is that where you’re going with this? I suppose anything is possible. We’ll have to wait and see what shakes out of this arrest I guess.
Good morning ya’ll,
I am reading up on this case of Zahra’s every day looking to see what they come up with next. I can’t wait to see if this is Zahra’s bone so they can finally charge someone with her death. I hope that they have enough evidence to say the stepmonster or dad killed her and that most importantly Zahra can have a proper burial. I still don’t think the sm did it all by herself. In my opinion I think the father has a big part in it too. There is no way that he would just be like okay, you beat the crap out of my daughter, and killed her so now I am going to help get rid of her for you. He is hiding something on his behalf about Zahra too imo. I think there was abuse of many types going on here by both of them, so that gives reason to why she maybe killed her and he got rid of the little girl.
I caught only a bit of Nancy Grace last night and was wondering if anyone has more details about additional letters that EB has mailed to family members? I’m aware of the two she sent to the website owner but haven’t had any luck finding any more on the ones she mailed to her family in which she claims that Zahra died of natural causes.
They’ve also identified the bio mom in Australia. She had been commenting anonymously on other blogs but looks like she finally gave a public statement:
http://www.gastongazette.com/news/zahra-52317-baker-girl.html
“There is no way that he would just be like okay, you beat the crap out of my daughter, and killed her so now I am going to help get rid of her for you. He is hiding something on his behalf about Zahra too imo.”
My thoughts exactly!
Michelle / NC Girl – I agree completely! One only has to listen to his bizarre 911 call to know he’s involved. There is no stress, anxiety or worry in his voice. People get more freaked out when they misplace their car keys than this man was over his daughter being missing and possibly kidnapped. NOT BUYING WHAT HE’S SELLING! Everyone saw the abuse when they came to visit. There is NO WAY he didn’t see it and he allowed it to continue. They got rid of her mattress and no one had seen Zahra for a long time before she was reported missing. He KNEW she was dead because he was involved. Simple as that.
I just wish LE would arrest Adam already. I’m SO flippin’ afraid he’ll escape, get out of the country and be gone before LE has what they need to charge him. UGH!
I believe “Hey, how you doing…” were the first words out of his mouth to the 911 operator.
Nothing like a little small talk to break the ice while in the process of reporting your missing child.
NC Girl – EXACTLY! WHO DOES THAT? And then he talks about her being in the brooding stage, never see her until she needs something, THEN CHUCKLES, and goes on talking about the fire, the ransom note, how the fire could have been a way to get them out of the house so the kidnapper could take her (nevermind the fact that they never checked on Zahra during the fire incident even after finding a ransom note for Pete’s sake), and is as calm and cool as a cucumber talking about a missing child. No urgency! No excitement, stress or concern in his voice whatsoever! HE KNOWS AND WAS PART OF THE COVER-UP IN THE VERY LEAST!
My husband even commented on that phone call. He said given a little more time on the phone and he believes the dad would have asked the dispatcher out.
Speaking of husbands, mine often leaves before our son awakes and there have been nights when he got home after our child has gone to bed. But not ONCE could he ever say that he has not seen his son since Thursday. Even when our son is asleep, he goes in to kiss him goodnight or simply to look at him because he missed seeing him all day.
And what 10 yr old sleeps until 2:00pm?
Sadly, with the discovery of this bone and EB’s letters, I have a feeling she’s been gone a long time considering it was just a bone that they found. I wonder what made them wait to call and report her missing when they did?
NC Girl,
That’s so cute of your husband. I love it!
As to Zahra, is that what they said, she slept in until 2:00pm? That alone is evidence that they were lying. In answer to your wondering what made them wait to call, they must have been hoping the longer they wait, the more difficult it is to find evidence. And, they were trying to come up with a plan that they more than likely practiced well ahead of time. SOO sad. I still look up recent events regarding what happened to Haleigh, that’s a real mystery to me! I pretty much figured what happened to Natalee Holloway (think she died from overdose or was unconscious and thought to be dead and discarded by Joran), figured that Caylee was killed by her selfish party-crazed mom and her grandparents suspected but covered their daughter, still trying to figure out the Tiffany Hartley scenario, but completely stuck on what really happened to Haleigh. I don’t feel sorry for Misty necessarily, but I feel sorry for her background. She never got a chance at a real life, and had no self-worth. I doubt she harmed Haleigh though.
PS. I just wish that Zahra had been protected before this tragedy occurred. Everyone who knew of the abuse is guilty too. And now that they have come out with this abuse, that alone should keep Elisa and her husband in jail for years…if and when they find out what happened, they both deserve the death penalty.period.
MissCali,
The social services system in our state is broken. We have tons of social workers whose heart is in the right place but their hands are bound by too many cases, laws that aren’t enforced, and parents who get a slap on the wrist and go about their merry way. (i.e. if a mother has a newborn that tests positive for drugs, social services are called in before they can take the baby home but dear daddy – who probably does drugs with mom – can sign a form stating that he’ll not allow mommy to do drugs in front of the child again.
Zahra – yep, they said they didn’t check on her until 2:00 pm. Well, if she went to bed at 10:00-11:00 (I’m just guessing because I don’t have a 10 yr old) then how long did these stupid people think she should sleep? And she slept through a fire, fire trucks responding and then later the police to investigagte the ransom note? Really? She slept through it and no one bothered to make sure she was okay while they were outside speaking to emergency personnel?
Caylee – I think we had just the slightest of glimpses into Cindy’s sanity when she made the infamous call regarding the smell of death in her daughter’s car. Now the whole flipping family has lost their mind and can’t face the reality that Casey killed her own child (as opposed to letting others who obviously loved her) to care for her so that she could continue her immature behavior.
Haleigh – have they given up on her? Her case is what drew me to this forum in the first place and I haven’t heard anything recently that indicated that they were still actively searching for her remains. I’m just wondering if they hope for the minimum of justice by locking them all up on drug charges? I think they are all guilty to a degree (dad, Misty, and bio mom) because they all had their drug use and self-serving lifestyles ahead of the welfare of their children.
Oh! Regarding all the family members coming out of the woodwork, they “claim” they didn’t feel they would be taken seriously because of their drug use (why was Zahra around and sometimes left in the care of drug users?). The only person I give any credibility to is EB daughter who did report her to social services. She also testified recently in court against her mother at a bond hearing and as a result the bond was increased as opposed to a decrease which was the purpose of the hearing.
JB, this is the article about the ones busted in the 23 street gang in Putnam County. I am waiting to see if anything should pan out in the HaLeigh case.
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/11/04/news/news01.txt
God Bless Zahra!
NC Girl,
No truer words spoken in your synopsis. I didn’t know social services was as bad as all that. Makes my heart so saddened. When I first started reading about Zahra’s disappearance and abuse, all I can think of is how can anyone be so cruel? I don’t know if anything will ever come of Haleigh, but I hope so!
Hi JB. Sorry for the delay. Well, it’s just a thought. These gang members are big pill dealers in the area and the police say the investigation started two years ago. Haleigh’s disappearance was about a year and nine months ago, which isn’t that far to round up from if they’re being loose with their numbers. If one were to take seriously theories that anyone took Haleigh to cover a drug debt or to retaliate for something, then it could follow that some sign of Haleigh might come from these guys being picked up.
Or, going in another direction, maybe info given by Cummings and Croslin family members in the course of the Haleigh investigation led the cops to these particular drug dealers and that’s the only connection.
Or maybe there’s no connection at all. I was just struck by the fact that these guys peddle the same candy Misty, Tommy and Ron seem to like best and that the times seems to be kind of close.
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JB said,in November 5th, 2010 at 8:53 am ThugCops4Christ – I found an article about this arrest but I’m not sure how you are connecting it with Haleigh’s case…other than they may have been selling drugs just like Ron and Misty. Are you thinking these guys or some of their gang members snagged Haleigh in retaliation or something? Is that where you’re going with this? I suppose anything is possible. We’ll have to wait and see what shakes out of this arrest I guess.
Last night I saw Zahra’s real mother speak on on Nancy Grace, guest hosted by Jean Casarez. (She’s soo classy and polite; I like to hear the “unleashed lawyers” get a chance to answer, in its entirety, a question posed to them.)
Zahra’s mother NEVER gave up permanent custody of Z. She suffered from postpartum depression and TEMPORARILY gave ADAM BAKER custody. She visited the baby regularly but then Baker took off. She arrived for her visit and the house was empty. She was able to track him down and reconnect with Zahra. Then he took off again. She says she searched and searched, then found them through the internet just three days before Zahra’s “disappearance” was reported. The feeling is that the departed Zahra actually found HER again, now that she was physically and spiritually free of her abusers, so that she could “reunite” with her mother at last.
Was Zahra living with her paternal grandmother?Was Baker estranged from his mother after he left Australia? Why did she not help her to find her daughter?
Its terribly sad all the way around.
JB, LFJ and TFC, I personally believe that Ronald has handed over evidence to the authorities to buy himself some time. It is possible that they finally got info out of Misty and Tommy and possibly the parents (lisa and hank) in exchange for something in return. Such a sad case about little Haleigh.
Also wanted to comment that it was apparent to me on day one in regard to Tiffany Hartley. Do they not have expert psychologists or psychiatrist somewhere that can say, “she looks psychotic” “something is not right with her”. Sure showed plain as day to me. Not sure why LE would even go along with her games in the first place.
I don’t know what to make of this story yet. The stepmom is psychotic to me also. I wonder if Zahra is hidden somewhere? , but all the evidence so far says she is really dead. I get the picture that the stepmom killed her and the dad raped her afterwards and then they got rid of the body or that there was some strange sexual stuff going on, but that is just what it makes me think.
I hope there is justice soon for these little ones.
I just read a report from our local television station that was actually given access inside the home. They recorded video of what was removed (sections of flooring, sinks/cabinets, etc). The story also reiterated that the father was evicted and that he removed only a few of his personal items.
What struck a cord in my heart was Zahra’s room. Her clothes are still in the closet, games on the shelf. If your child was missing and you had been evicted from your home would anyone leave their missing child’s items behind? The house has been released by the police so it’s not like they are coming back for them. Why would her father not take her things??????????????
NC Girl I same made the assessment. Why leave Zahras personal belongings behind? I agree with you.
Hello Jen M. it is so nice to see you. It has been awhile. I agree with you on your post.
The only question I have is why do you think the father raped Zahra?
LFJ – I forgot to add that I guess it’s because THEY KILLED HER that he wasn’t really anxious to have those personal reminders around.
I’m curious too – not sure I’ve pieced together any reference to rape but would like to hear what you think.
Sometime we can’t help jumping to conclusions because of the way “Breaking News” is sensationalized. I immediately thought they ate her heart.(I momentarily confused paganism with satanism.) For a second, I thought she might have been sexually abused, too. Ultimately, the “horrible thing” that Elisa Baker said Adam Baker(if we are to believe her) did afterwards, might “just be” chopping her to pieces and scattering her far and wide, which is extremely heinous in and of itself.
I wonder what they heard in the 911 call before the operator answered in Zahras call? I never knew before HaLeighs case that once you dial 911 it starts recording even before the Operator answers.
http://www.wbir.com/news/article/141227/2/Skull-found-in-Cocke-County-near-last-sighting-of-Megan-Maxwells
Lets pray for this family as they await the news to find out if this is Megan. God comfort this family.
http://www.wbir.com/news/article/141337/2/Human-remains-found-in-Cocke-County-confirmed-to-belong-to-Megan-Maxwell
After the prior post I went to see if there was an update and it has been confirmed it is Megan Maxwells remains May God bring justice for Megan and comfort to her family as they now have closure that she is in heaven. Now it is time to find the monster that took Megans life.
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/zahra-baker-case-bone-found-not-small-chip-or-piece-say-officials
An article telling us a little bit on the bone they found.
HI Jan,
Thanks for this latest post, we can see hopw much you really care and always know that we are 100% behind you with your caring. I live in Sydney and this case is big here. we hope that who ever did this will feel the brunt of American justice, From all of us in Australia we would like to thank police, DA’S and all the media outlets carrying this story. W ill light MORE candles and prey for justice
god bless you
lena
I managed to suffer Nancy Grace for a short period of time last night. How in the name of all that is good, does NG rant on in that insipid way, when a poor child is very likely no longer on this earth.
All Nancy Grace did for the period I watched, was rant about Zahra’s real mother not making enough effort to find her or keep her safe. Even when Nancy was given facts that the poor woman had indeed been looking everywhere and within what means she had, and never knew they had left Australia. On Nancy went about how it wasn’t enough and how she as a mother would never have blah blah blah.
That woman, Nancy Grace, is just vile and an embarrassment to this country.
I hope those people who hurt and likely murdered Zahra, meet a swift and appropriate justice for their unspeakable actions.
And I hope someone sees sense and take that disgusting Nancy Grace of the air and replace her with one of nicer stand in hosts that have been on sometimes.
Still no test results? No updates? Nothing new discovered? And Adam Baker is still roaming free! UGH!
Hi Justice, that’s very interesting! Do you mean once you reach the 911 center and you’re on hold, or is there some way your phone gets recorded before you’re even connected to 911? Hope that isn’t a stupid question.
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looking for justice said,in November 7th, 2010 at 1:05 pm I wonder what they heard in the 911 call before the operator answered in Zahras call? I never knew before HaLeighs case that once you dial 911 it starts recording even before the Operator answers.
ThugcopsforChrist,
I was going back and listening to alot of the 911 tapes in the HaLeigh case and I could hear the ringing to 911, but you could hear what was being said or going on before the operator answered. I am trying to locate a specific one of the calls and relisten to just to make sure of what I heard is correct. Once I find it I will post it. It does make sense though because this way LE knows what is going on in the backgound before the dispatcher answers the call.
It is being reported that LE has now requested Elisa’s financial records and that of her daughter’s. They say she has used up to 8 alias’s. I wonder where they are headed with this line of investigation?! And why the daughter’s financial records as well?! I thought the daughter was terrified of her mother and was a bit estranged from her. Something fishy there! And WHY is Adam Baker still roaming free? UGH!
LFJ – I used to work in 911 dispatch and found your post to ring vaguely familiar. I just called our local Communications and yes, the tape starts rolling as soon as the connection is made and well before the dispatcher answers. And yes, in our state at least, that is legal to use in court. Thanks for bringing that up because now I too am wondering!
JB – The daughter testified at the bond hearing that her mother had recently been in correspondence with another man overseas (London I think?) and that he had recently given her $10,000. I’m not sure what her finances have to do with a murder investigation but maybe they are requesting them to verify that aspect of the daughter’s testimony? And maybe they are looking at the daughter’s because mom had no credit, outstanding warrants, and needed some help cashing the check? Just theories on my part……
It is truly a wonder that Adam Baker has not been physically harmed. The tension in this community is to the boiling point.
Not sure if anyone else had seen this yet but family members of Elisa Baker have visited her in jail and had this to say:
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-11-06/justice/north.carolina.missing.girl_1_bad-check-charges-cousin-prosthetic-leg?_s=PM:CRIME
This was all over our local news but I could not find any links on their websites. CNN pretty much sums up what the local news were reporting.
LE has found something else (just like NG reported last night) but they aren’t saying what it is.
An article on MSNBC posted an hour ago say they are back searching at a previously searched location.
A neighbor also stated in that article that he had no idea Adam and Elisa had a child living with them as he never saw her. How long have they lived at this address?
And I don’t get how it is that LE is only finding bones. It takes time for decomp to take effect and for the body to be just bones. How flippin’ long has this baby been dead? Even if she died in Sept. would she really only be bones by the end of Oct? Anybody know the answer to that? That seems fast to me but obviously I’m not LE and have no real idea how long it takes. But I’ve read enough about murder cases to know they find bodies months later that are still “bodies” albeit they are in bad shape. So how is it that all there is left of Zahra is bones? Am I missing something here?
I do not think you are missing anything at all Jb. I was wondering that last night as I watched NG. I was hoping someone was going to ask that very question, but they did not. I was wondering about the finances of Elisas daughter and Elisas as well being looked into. The daughter told the courts to keep her locked up and that she feared her mother. I agree with you again Adam Baker deserves to be sitting behind bars.
It sickens me to think she was really dismembered and scattered. How sick is that!!!!!
LFJ – I just don’t understand how there could just be bones left. I would think the tissue would still be there. Did he clean the bones off and somehow hide that evidence? They obviously had some time to do all that they did. And yes, it sickens me beyond words that they could do this, especially to a child. I’m not buying the “she died naturally” thing either. They took sinks, drains, plumbing, etc. LE must think she was dismembered in the house and they are looking for evidence of that. How the heck could you dismember your child or any human being? How does the mind deal with that? And then to sound so calm, cool and collected on the 911 call KNOWING what they had done…..they are BOTH sociopaths!
But what do finances have to do with all of this? The more I learn the more confused I get! Every time I think I know the direction LE is going with the investigation another snippet of info is released and I’m again bewildered. And while I have some sympathy for Zahra’s biological mother as I’m sure she is being tormented with regrets at this point, she too could have done more to find Zahra and get her child back. I don’t see any real effort on her part. She could have done more I guess is my point. I don’t blame her for this child’s death but she failed Zahra horribly.
JB they are now saying they have a great deal of evidence and a medical examiner on site. They now say they have persons of interest. iirc I believe they said that it was about two weeks before they reported Zahra missing Zahra was seen with them in a furniture store. That as been approx. 6 weeks!! How in the heck can she be skeletonized??? I have a feeling we will hear soon if there was any tissue, but right now it does not sound like it.
The Bakers have now stopped talking. Zahra will receive Justice.
NC girl thank you so musch for verifying for me that the tape starts rolling the minute you dial 911. I think it woul be quite interesting to hearwhat was going on in the background before 911 picked up.
On the 911 tape I am looking for in the Haleigh Cummings case you hear Ronald Call Haleighs name only one time, no crying or whining, very clearly you hear him say I did not have anything to do with this. You also hear damn it we’re f’d.All of this before 911 operator picks up. He is not cursing Misty at all.I thought to myself why was he sayingI did not have anything to do with this. If he was innocent of any wrong doing that would be the last thing on his mind.He just came home and found out his daughter was missing and his was his mind set. If I find the link I will post t for you all to observe. Thanks again NC Girl, Gods Speed to you and your community. JUSTICE FOR ZAHRA!
oops sorry for typos. should have read
found his daughter was missing and this was his mind set.
They are now saying they found zahra’s body, may she now be resting in peace.
if only someone could now find Haliegh.
AMEN! Jayeesmom.
oops again! jaceesmom.
Like everyone else, I too question the discovery of “bones” and no tissue or other residue attached. That leads me back to the wood chipper – and I know that there might have been a false positive on that hit – but could it be possible that they dismembered her in the wood chipper and then disposed of the pieces (bones) that did not disintegrate?
Such morbid and awful thoughts to think. But like a lot of folks, I’m just trying to figure out what happened to a precious angel that left us all too soon. It hurts so very much to read and follow stories of other missing children but I cannot possibly explain how much it hits home that she was so close to my own proximity.
With regards to Haleigh, can anyone update if the case is even still active? With everyone in jail, is law enforcement still actively looking for her remains? I so wish that she could be recovered and given the proper burial that she most surely deserves. Again – another child that me, you, and most anyone else would have gladly taken into our homes to love and care for.
((Big sigh))
Hey LFJ, I read your post at 9:01 and was wondering the same, shouldn’t there be a body that is not decomposed fully? But, I was thinking if they had to “dismember” her first then they burned her split remains and then buried her wouldn’t that speed up decomposition? I’m not sure how the science in that works. Poor little girl, I sure hope this is her body! Justice for Zahra!!!
NG – ‘thinks’ Zahra’s head was in the shallow ‘grave’. So, the wood chipper was used, but then he was unable to finish?! Come on. Sick, sick, sick. Jesus has you in His Loving Hands now, Zahra.
Rest in peace little-one.
This just gets more and more twisted. I’m trying to wrap my mind around a parent chopping up his or her child whether it be with a knife, a chainsaw, a chipper or any other unfathomable fashion. How does someone do that and not end up in a loony bin? And WHY do that? If she truly died of natural causes then why hide her body? And why not bury her in one piece? I just can’t get past the fact that these people dismembered a child! I don’t mean to dwell on this point but DANG, it is just REALLY difficult for me to handle mentally! I’d say justice for Zahra would be to dismember the person or persons who did this WHILE THEY’RE STILL ALIVE! Just cut off one piece at a time. A finger here, a toe there, an ear here, a hand there, a slice here, a slice there and chuck the pieces into a chipper so they can watch their bodies being ground into mulch!
There is a special place in hell for Adam and Elisa! And it is right next to Casey, Cindy, George and Lee Anthony!
LE is holding a press conf. today at 4:00. Sources say it is to announce that the remains found are in fact Zahra’s. Stay tuned…..
JB, Jan has a new thread up. I heard the news and it is heartbreaking, but I think we all knew this was going to be the end result. I hope these two will be tormented. I do not want them to have one nano second of peace.
So, why isn’t Adam Baker in jail or at least prosecuted for making a false 911 call????!
JB,
Thanks for listing Casey’s parents as guilty of what happened to Caylee! How dare they protect and lie about what their daughter did to their own granddaughter? Not to mention all the money and stress put on every single person trying to find Caylee…
CANNOT believe that Adam Baker is now denying his involvement. Like, seriously, we are supposed to believe that Elisa built the fire, wrote the ransom note, dumped the mattress out, dismembered the girl, scattered it all over, ALL on her own without her husband seeing ANY of it? HOW lame!! He is not even worthy of being a father.
MissCali, I so agree with u. The way he states that he could never do that to his little girl just blows my mind, he has probably had that work for most people like mommy and such. But it don’t fly with me and I am sure it doesn’t with the police either.
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