Cobra has been tirelessly looking for the missing girl, Haleigh Cummings. Of course not all help is viewed as useful. And certainly Cobra has created a certain amount of havoc in his investigations. He is a rough and ready guy, he is also the nicest man you could ever meet. It is an overused phrase, but Cobra is the guy that would give you the shirt off his back.
I reported yesterday that an arrest warrant had been issued for Cobra, and he is a man of his word, an honorable man. He said that he would turn himself in to Putnan County early this morning, and he did just that.
When I spoke to him, and some other people yesterday, the game plan was to already have the Bond filed, and it should just be a question of walking in, filling out the forms, a picture, and fingerprints and walk out again.
Of course the best laid plans of men and mice do have a tendency of going astray. Today was a fine example, a telling example. Know your friends before trusting them.
The bond had been arranged through a local company, a company that Cobra had some previous dealings with. (It won’t take much research to find the name, but I for one do not wish to publish it!). He arrived at the appointed time, all of the paperwork was in order, and the bond company went in and posted it.
Cobra then surrendered to the police, and was processed. All was going well, he had just been told that he was free to go, when the phone rang, the bond company had changed their mind! The door was locked, Cobra was led to the holding cells, forced to strip (likely not a pretty sight) and made to put on prison garb.
According to reports a second local bondsman refused to help, offering the sage advice ‘you are going away for a long time’. That statement blew my mind, Cobra always talks in such glowing terms about the brothers and sisters in the trade, and how they look after each other.
The good news is, there are decent people in this world, a bond company out of Miami stepped in, and after two hours behind bars Cobra was freed.
Needless to say Cobra Staubs is absolutely fuming over this entire fiasco, and I do not blame him.
I’ll share a secret with you all, yesterday morning there were a flurry of phone calls and emails between us press types, and we had decided to drop a particular line of questioning as it was not helping the search for Haleigh, it was counterproductive. Well I think that line of questioning is now back on the table.
Clearly the major thrust is to find Haleigh Cummings, and in my eyes there are only two people actually engaged on that mission, to slap felony charges on Cobra is insanity.
I will have more information tomorrow, but we do plan on running a radio show on Sunday. Cobra will be on, and it will be a cracker!
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI have a message for Cobra…..if a child is ever missing in my family, I will welcome Cobra in whatever capacity he feels useful in the search for the missing child. And if anyone so much as looks towards Cobra in a suspicious manner, let alone questions his presence, I personally will deal with that person. I have no personal knowledge of Cobra or his practices, however, if a child is missing, who cares! Just help me look for that child!! Anthony family….help me look for the child! Or just bring media attention! I don’t care!! What is wrong with the Satsuma folks?? It surely smells.
There are several things insinuated in this article. The only way I know to understand it is to take each issue separately and ask questions. What did the second bail company mean when they said Cobra was going away for a long time?
Does Cobra have an attorney and has he received legal advice on the charges? If so, is this comment about Cobra going away a long time true, or is it a snarky remark from someone who just didn’t want to help? I have more questions, but will wait until this is responded to. TYIA
Here is what I got from Simon while he was talking to Cobra.
The second bond company was also based in Putnam County and for whatever reason the bond people just don’t like having Cobra around. He is a threat to their friendly business.
Cobra does not currently have an attorney. The one he had seems to be causing him most of the problems in Putnam County.
He will be joining us on Sunday on our Radio Show. I am sure we will all learn a lot more about this, so I suggest if you want to hear it from the horses mouth, tune in or perhaps call in if you want to ask him questions yourself. We will have a link up for the show tomorrow. It will be on Sunday, May 24th at 3:00pm Central time.
NightOwl we here!! Good to see YOU again!
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Thank You Jan & Ms. Pickles.
My main concern at this time is the charges against Cobra. I don’t understand how this offender can substantiate allegations against Cobra when the surety company, as I understand it, supported detaining this man. I saw on the Putnam County website that the charge against Cobra is a felony. How will this effect his business as a bailbondsman and bounty hunter? Will this charge effect him now or only if he is convicted of this charge? So, if someone can answer this, I’d appreciate it. If not, hopefull, Cobra will know the answers and respond here or on the radio program.
I hope my questions are not too probing. I am trying to understand all the repercussions to this arrest, and without knowing what all of you seem to know, it’s hard to put the pieces together and “get behind” a seemingly growing united effort against others. I hope you understand that I am not trying to irritate anyone; just want to understand.
Nightowl
Yes this charge will affect his state license’s
including his license to carry a gun…….. here is the statute regarding his bail bonds license
F.S.648.45
Actions against a licensee; suspension or revocation of eligibility to hold a license.
(1) The department shall, upon receipt of an information or indictment, immediately temporarily suspend any license or appointment issued under this chapter when the licensee has been charged with a felony or a crime involving moral turpitude or a crime punishable by imprisonment of 1 year or more under the law of any state, territory, or country. Such suspension shall continue if the licensee has been found guilty of, or has pleaded guilty or no contest to, the crime, whether or not a judgment or conviction has been entered, during a pending appeal. A person may not effect any additional bail bonds after suspension of his or her license or appointment
I guess yall jumped articles so I’m bringing this over here, but it’s in reply to a comment from the last cobra article.
BailAgent328,
Tell me how is it that you know that snodgrass is a stranger to haleigh? I mean tell me chuck because I’d like to know! Where is your evidence! And unless the LE have already found haleigh or have very signifficant evidence how can they be sure it wasn’t a stranger? Cause if they have evidence or know where she is then they need to spill it and get her home safe to someone who will take care of her.
Also I’d like to say in response to bail’s last post.
Bailagent328
You would know wouldn’t you.
actually I wouldn’t know …..you seem to have this misconception that i am chuck however your presumption is in correct ….chucks isn’t the only bail agency in town ….so before you presume to know who i am think twice …… i own an agency in palatka and it isn’t Chucks bail Bonds
Who is snodgrass?
he is a defendant out on bond for a alledged sexual offenses in satsuma
TY, hes the one that wore the ankle monitor?
yes
I guess it doesn’t matter anyway, because if you were chuck you wouldn’t admit it anyway now would you.
Thanks for the info BailAgent328. It is rude when people make assumptions about real life identities and are wrong.
So while this arrest is on the books, can Cobra still function as a bail bondsman/fugitive agent?
Is there any hope these charges will be dropped?
Your opinion is appreciated by me.
Did cobra ask your agency to get him out?
Also Bail I’d like to point out that you never answered how you know that snodgrass and haleigh didn’t know each other, now you don’t have to answer that question but if you don’t I think that in it’s self speaks volumes.
ok i am going to let you in on something yes i was asked to bond him but while mrs lookadoo was on the phone with me someone else told her they had found someone to do post his bond. so it saved me from telling her i couldn’t for reasons i am unwilling to devulge at this time
as far as cobra functioning as a bail agent now that he has been arrested …my interpetation of the statute earlier is no….however i’m not an attorney
as far as who I am …it will become all to evident who i am soon enough….. jnga i am not making this a personal attack on cobra just conveying the facts rooted by statute
snodgrass’s gps monitor on his ankle ruled him out as a suspect in the disappearance …..and my understanding is that he didn’t know anyone in the family ……
Well in re-reading that statute I guess Cobra is out of work in the Bail Bonds business. Wonder if the competition pushed for this as a way of getting rid of him in their area(and the whole state for that matter!).
Sad to see this happen, as I believe he really was trying to help find Haleigh. His heart seemed to be in the right place.
Is there anyone in Putnam Co. with a clear conscience? I would be ashamed to live in that area. Law enforcement seems corrupt from the arresting officers to the judge. Now Kim P., attorney for Crystal, has a lawyer. Pretty soon the lawyers will have lawyers.
Please let’s just find Haleigh and bring her home, this case has turned out to be anything but what about Haleigh…
Thanks for the info BailAgent. And I agree that this charge will suspend Cobra’s ability to be ‘in the business’.
It is an unusual line of work you are in. Sounds like you know Cobra. Glad you did not have to decline the bond, and someone else took it on.
I hate to see people end up in jail in certain situations. The details I have read about this charge lead me to believe it is political in nature. I may be wrong, but hey, jail sucks!
Thanks 4 answering
This whole situation just makes me sick to my stomach, because cobra was searching for haleigh no matter how many toes he was stepping on and that’s what needs to happen, everyone needs to put Haleigh first.
It sure is odd when lawyers have lawyers!! How soon till the lawyers lawyer’s have their own lawyers!!!!! LMAO?
Sounds supsiciously odd to me!
So, if Cobra is off the case Putnam County officials have attained their goal. They never wanted Cobra down there in “their business” missing child or not. Something stinks in Putnam County and the state of Florida better start investigating all of Putnam County. Too many cases of arrests made but no time served. Compare the records and you will see a pattern. Putnam County should have streets lined in gold!
i agree with you jnga however i have to be somewhat elusive due to the fact i may be called as a witness in this case….so that is why i cant really speak about it …but what i can say is that i was there when the alleged crime took place ….in the words of billy bob thorton “thats all i have to say about that”
Bail,
I’m not trying to be rude, but about your comment that snodgrass was ruled out because of his GPS bracelet…They thought the titannic was unsinkable…I thought law enforcement said they haven’t ruled anybody out.
It does mean one less person will be out there digging for leads.
This makes me sad, as I can’t imagine one less person looking helps.
Not being in LE Cobra had opportunities to talk to some people who might not be willing to talk otherwise.
I keep praying for a lead- the lead that finds Haleigh!
he has muddied the waters of this missing child case ……no SO is perfect but the sherrif is working this case as if it were one of his kids thus the media conference where hardy was choking up about this little girl.
I had heard that Snodgrass was ruled out due to the GPS device. He was not near the house at the time of the crime. Doesn’t mean he was not involved peripherally though I suppose.
they are looking at everybody still …..but they are looking at several angles ………….the angle that snodgrass could have been near the scene has been ruled out …is what i mean
There have been comments about how Cobra released info that LE had hoped to keep under raps. That he was interfering with LE’s plans somewhat.
I agree about Hardy, he was/is affected by this crime!
I am not blameing Haleigh being missing on anybody, but this whole snodgrass/cobra situation does make me look more closely at snodgrass. Let me ask you this, could snodgrass have dropped the charges on cobra if he wanted to? And I heard Law enforcement was there when the incident took place so why didn’t the officers lock cobra up right then and there?
BailAgent, what is your opinion about drugs being the reason behind this abduction? Can you say?
Do you feel that this is a high crime area?
I POST HERE NOW AND THEN.HOWEVER,A BLIND MAN COULD SEE THAT COBRA WAS SET UP.IMHO-THIS LIL’TOWN OF SATSUMA,HAS ALOT OF DIRTY DEEDS THAT THEY DON’T WANT XPOSED.WHY DOES KIM P. WANT COBRA GONE,IS IT BCUZ HE’S NT WILLING TO ASSIST HER IN LINING HER POCKET WITH CASH,IN THE NAME OF”LET’S FIND HALEIGH?”
the info cobra has found isn’t new just unheard by the general public…….this investigation is complex the SO is being lied to …..and they have sift through the lies to find the truth ….
I would bet the SO is hearing tons of pretty lame stories around this case. It has to be a lot of work to get to the truth.
Seems there is very little in the way of conscience and a whole lot of CYA going on.
the officer’s at the scene believed cobra had authority to do what he did ….however the SA did not
blues
your question is hard to answer …i’m not sure what the motive was in this disappearance …..
Hi Pinky, how do we know Kim P. wants Cobra gone? I might have missed that point.
BailAgent,
Are you familiar with the Satsuma area enough to say if the general perception that this is a drug infested, high crime area? I am from the west coast and totally unfamiliar with that area, so a local opinion is appreciated.
There are rumors and opinions about the area being out of control. But not a lot of facts to support that.
that is why it took so long for the SA to take action …..bail bondsman authority is complex encompasses both state law and federal law …this decision was not taken lightly by anyone envolved …..you can bank on that
This sounds like it will be difficult for Cobra to deal with. Has to be hard to lose your ability to work.
Maybe he will be able to work around this arrest and still be able to maintain his business.
Putnam county isn’t that bad I have lived here most of my life …..at last count PC is 4 th on the list of crime per capita ….however in grand scheme of life it is less crime riddled than jax or orlando or miami
Thanks for that info. It is easy for those outside an area to generalize and jump to the conclusion this is a bad bad area.
There is not much being said that is positive about the area. I thought the police were handling the press conferences well, you have to hold back somethings to have that card to play later when you are investigating someone in particular.
From what I have seen of the area, it does however look like a great place to hide someone. I keep hoping that Haleigh is alive, but it is difficult to know if someone has her locally.
as far as cobra being setup …I doubt that ….because if they found contraband on him or in his vehicle ….i might think conspiracy theroy ….but kidnapping is a different beast ….as a citizen if someone forces you to move from position to another against your will that is kidnapping by statute however if the person using force has the authority to do it then it is lawful hopefully that may explain it a little better
Do you feel Cobra will leave the area now? It would be hard for him to stay I would think.
Do you think any of the local Bail Agents can help by talking to their clients looking for lead? Is this ever done?
i wouldn’t be able to make any assumptions on her location at all ….
I am not really leaning towards Cobra being framed. He admitted he did this ‘hold’ of the guy.
It is an unfortunate side affect of being in the business. I do feel that these charges could have been manipulated a bit in order to discourage his continued involvement irritating people. What I mean is he crossed a line, and had the authority temporarily, and then the Agent holding the bond decided not to go along with Cobra pulling the guy in to pressure him.
cobra want leave till Haleigh comes home.
Could snodgrass have dropped the charges if he wanted to?
No, I am pretty sure if you had any assumptions you would pass them along to LE. LOL
What I meant was is there any possibility that a Bail ‘client’ might reveal info to an agent as a way of not having to report info themselves? Does this ever happen?
i want to say this …..the people of PC are mortified that this happened in our back yard …i hug my daughter tighter since this happened …..but we all are trying to help in our own ways …. in snodgrasses defense he has not been convicted of the charges levied against him ….so maybe he used poor judgment in attempting to donate furniture to the foundation but has anyone stopped to think perhaps he isn’t guilty of the charges …..he hasn’t had his day in court ….if he is guilty then i could he should get what he deserves ..but until then i reserve any comment on his charges
During an interview with Cobra this morning on his way to the Putnam County Jail, he advised that he already had his bondsman setup and he stated the name of the Bonding Company that was suppose to meet him there to bond him out. I believe we were all surprised when the hours passed and Cobra was in still in Jail. The Bailbonding Business must not share the concept of brotherly love as Cobra believed.
Working in the same world, I do believe that each and every Bails Bondman, could face the same issues that Cobra faced today. All it truly takes, is one time that any bondsman places a person in custody, and a change of mind at the top puts them at risk.
I wondered, since the LE was already aware of Snodgrass continued decision to go to the center, refusing to leave when ask, and when Le was called, he managed to disappear as LE arrived on a number of occasions. Much like playing a game with LE. Testing the waters it seems. Why had LE not already have gone out and found Snodgrass, and with the witnesses from the Center to back their charges. Arrest Snodgrass for violation of his Bond agreement.
yes info comes from all different avenues ….leads and dead ends
I don’t think Snodgrass has a say when it comes to the States Attorney making a decision to prosecute…unless he totally denies that it ever happened. Since there were local LE involved, and their reports, that is probably unlikely.
If he does deny it, or there are facts that mitigate this arrest, or better yet prove it was indeed valid, there is always the hope that charges will be dropped or dismissed! Hopefully that will be the outcome. I like Cobra, he is a character! He is also doing this for what I believe are the right reasons- for Haleigh!
I would bet there are a lot less children sleeping in houses without multiple locks on the doors there in Putnam County!
And never miss an opportunity to hug your child!
there again marlee it comes down to he says she says …my understanding he was there only once …i could be wrong …..
there again blues i cannot go any further with what i know but say i was there ans saw alot ……however my hands were tied ….it was percieved he had authority ….
Bail,
Do you know if snodgrass is still married to Joan? and What the last Name of his friend Marty is?
It has been reported by media, that it occurred more than once. He knew that his bond was based on the fact that he was not suppose to be anywhere near children. And he chose to go to the center, his decision. He is very aware of the conditions of his bond.
There was no excuse, and he should have been picked up by LE..
We do know that Joan is related to Haleigh’s family. That makes one think.. They don’t know family members?
i don’t know if he is still married or not
marty’s last name escapes me at the moment
i’m off to bed ….i’ll be back in the morning
ok thanks, but I probably won’t be on then. bye
Blues:on the interveiw with simom cobra said kim wants him to leave satsuma.for whatever reason
This accounting of Cobra’s arrest sounds very sugar coated as opposed to that of other media reports. I can’t see law enforcement putting their integrity on the line to bring in Dudley Doright. What is the real story here? Not every guy who would give the shirt off your back gets arrested.
Jnga, there is a media report, that list her full name and her opinion that he could never have committed the acts. My concern, Does his current girlfriend have children? Does he continuet to reside with her if the children are present in the Home?
How could he without violating his bond agreement live in the home if children are present?
I hope you nice people are not falling for this line of junk from this person who is posting as a bailagent. Get his or hers store front name!! Sad to say you are getting your leg pulled.–Have a good nite!!
Trapper,
Don’t rush to judgment on what bailagent is saying. There is one key phrase in his thread of comments. It is a morsel that is not common knowledge and has not been reported in the media. I got it straight from Cobra after he was bonded out. I could certainly make an educated guess as to bailagent is.
Simon
I bow to your knowledge, however he states he was there when Mr Staubs made the take down, if it’s not his bonding agencey why was he there???
At least Cobra is out! I only hope this arrest does not destroy his ability to make a living. This man has dedicated time and effort and money to finding clues to bring Haleigh home. That makes him one of the good guys!
This whole event has made me very sad. How can this arrest be good, when even bailagent said that Cobra appeared to have the authority at the time the ‘false imprisonment’ event occured. What is the point in arresting someone in this situation?
We need more people willing to do whatever it takes to drum up leads, and find this missing baby girl!!!!!!
Trapper,
I can’t answer that one, but I likely will be talking to Cobra at some point today, and do plan on bringing up this guys name to see what reaction I get.
Simon
Bailagent328 post11:20pm I was there when the alleged crime took place. Why was he there, if he was??
Hey nice to see everyone here!! BailAgent!! Welcome to BNN!! Muddy waters is what I SEE!!
whats the “new line of questiong” about?
Ms. P
thanks for the welcome …
hi all, sorry havent been keeping up…just why exacally was he arrested??? for pulling bond on the girl??? if someone has time to answrer i dont have to much time to be here today lots going on with me…
Bailagent no problem!! 🙂
ANNA!!!! He was arrested for detaining a child molester for an hour.
Sorry I missed you ! 🙁 ♥
marelee, if you are still here,I would like to chat with you privately.
TruthBeTold, I’m here a bit late.. Of course.
you can find me on email dot com.. Note: I pulled up Snodgrass charges on this case, was surprised to find this case is now a year and a half old. And that he was original booked on a No Bond. And that he has been out and about on Bond now for over a year… Scary thought..
Of course his bonding agent.. Good ole Chuck, who’s wife Dale now is the legal owner and bonding Agent. The company original was owned and ran by Chuck, and he was a prior Le Officer, until he ran afoul with the law…
What is all of your all theroys and where is Haleigh? Who has her?
I have been trying to figure that email dot com part out for a bit and can not,think I am just having a brain overload day but do need to chat with you a bit somehow.
my name on the site at email dot com.
Sounds like Cobra was set up all the way back to the original detaining of the SO. He was told by the bond holders to pick up the SO, then was told the bond holders changed their mind so just take the SO home. Are the bond holders for the SO local too? IMO, the bondsmen in PC leave a lot to be desired. Chuck, a convicted SO, appears to hide behind the facade of his wife being the owner, while he claims to just go to the office to visit his wife. Yea, ok. Cobra had already stated in another interview that other bondsmen there were afraid he would take their business away. Looks to me like they worked together to try to rid them selves of perceived competition. Cobra is going away for a long time? Why doesn’t any of the SO’s there go away for a long time? Must be better to kidnap and abuse a child than it is a SO in Putnam County. As for him going away? I think not. In the normal courts of law, do you not have to prove intent? It was not Cobra’s intention to kidnap and cause harm to that man. He just wanted answers. As everyone, but the majority of Putnam County, seems to want.
One thing that I picked up from Arts site, is a comment from an LE Detective, who stated that Cobra didn’t tell them anything they didn’t already know..
Well, this is all find and good.. Apparently, they have the case solved, Right?
My question to the Detective would be.. ” Why haven’t you gone to the Home of the Family Haleigh is currently staying with, picked her up and brought her Home?”
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Hey Ms. P , got and answered.
Marelee, I found one you had posted on the other site to someone and used that one. I hope that is ok. It was a yahoo. Back to that pesky paper I have due on Tuesday. 😉
😉 Allrighty this should be a bit faster now…
morning folks. great show yesterday.
hello i made it.
much faster. big hop.lol.
Hey Truth!! Thank YOU it went good I think im gonna listen after my girl goes to bed.
Hey Ksue nice shooting thru the wabbit hole!
txs pickles.lol.
Ms P sent you something.
Cobra,If you are out there,from what I see,you got em runnin scared. Keep doin what your doin.They see exposure comin at em and are tryin to shut you down,tells me that what ever path you were lookin in is the right one,so keep lookin,you must be gettin close.
I got it thank YOU Truth actually I am reading up on that. I can see them now!! muahahahahaha.
good. Not a problem
I am truth ya know 😉
TruthBeTold — Doreen sent me the Transcript of Cummings/Sheffield Custody Hearing and asked me to email it to you, do you still want it?
Jan
I cannot believe they think im harrassing them still for pete sakes. I mean gahhd I have plenty to do with my time..
They literally think anyone who goes against them is me or someone from here????? Its amazing…..I mean im sure they have created MANY ENEMIES I am not the only person they have been rude to…NOT AT ALL.
Pickles… who???
Hi Jan, that would be great!! Thank you
Ms P I am not sure where that comes from but find it completely ridiculous.
Jan I emailed you the details. OMG Insane in the brain
Truth its insane to think that way I mean we are busy ppl here at BNN to busy for that…..Gahhhd
TruthBeTold,
I’m not following you. Exposure of who, who’s running scared and what is it they’re (which they) doing to shut Cobra down?
everybody is running scared. everybodys a suspect.lol.
Well, I’m glad I’m nobody instead of everybody lol
lol.
I dont know either.
I can’t keep up with you little rabbits, 😉 Since Cobra has exposed Crystal being on drugs,thousands that had seen her’s and her sister’s myspace at the beginning of Haleigh being missing,already knew.Thank you so much for exposing it to the public Cobra,it could save her children’s lives.I imagine,the media spin will be the lawyer has known about it and has come to save the day and get her in rehab? Will it be poor Crystal,give her more money to help her revamp her life away from all her family members,one by one?It’s really sad the price Crystal is paying for someone else’s ego,if this is the case,first her father,how many more will she be seperated from?Very sad,indeed.
hahaha sorry folks, if you go back to what Cobra said last night about Rons family has been looked at and who does that leave,then you look at who it seems wants him out of town,off the case so bad,that leaves you with a picture of one path (side) Just an opinion.That is how it sure looks to me anyway.
Jas!!!
pickles, can you go check your e-mail. thanks.
does anyone know how far it was from rons old trailer to pdm where he worked?
Yes Ksue I will check that out asap
Ms Pickles!!! 🙂
I can’t wait till JVM today or tomorrow and see the spin. 😉
I caught part of JVM last no it was NG last night something about some Marine who killed his whole family
txs pickles. i went back to see if there was a rebuttdle and there wasnt. i wonder why, cause there is on some of the others. just wondering.
went and listened to the radio show agian. laughed and laughed. that was fun. is it like that all the time?
bbiab.
YES its always a riot!
I am going to listen now I think…..FCC violations here we come
Ms. P. sounds like the Coleman case. another case with a glove,hope this one goes better then the last one in court.
Oh I know he looks guilty if you ask me. That Marine…..the glove!!
The Marine was just getting ready to move to Florida, too…
I can already hear his defense lawyer saying the guy was in another state at the gym when it all happened.
That video of Haleigh is adorable!
Feb 28 – Haleigh Cummings mother, Crystal Sheffield interviewed with Fox news host, Greta Van Susteren on Feb 27th.
In the interview, Sheffield changed gears from her earlier description of Ronald Cummings on Geraldo At Large.
Sheffield said ” When I first got pregnant with Haleigh, he punched me in the back of the head and before then, he was verbal. I mean he was just very abusive”. When Geraldo asked “Are you frightened of him even today?” Sheffield repiled “Yes I am…I mean it could get bad enough for him to hurt Haleigh…Um, my cousin, Candice, told me when we got down here for this incident, that, um, he come to her house – it was Ronald, Haleigh, Junior and Misty. And Haleigh bumped into him or smarted off to him and she said he just backhanded her. And she fell flat on her face on the porch”. (source)
Friday, Van Susteren interviewed Sheffield about the day Haleigh went missing:
“when you spoke to Ronald, what did you ask him” said Susteren, “I did not ask him nothing. He just told me he was sorry and that if he had been home from work, it would not have never happened” replied Sheffield.
“He is a good father, isn’t he” asked Susteren.
“Yes. He loves Haleigh. I know Haleigh is his heart, and I do not think he hurt her” said Sheffield.
Yeah, it was a pretty nice vid
If he would of been home it wouldn’t of happened..
That is weird… and you put that with the ‘them’ he talked about on the 911 call…
It is all so strange…
And how he said I cant believe you let them take her…Ya that is bizaare was she out slanging or hookin with the kids in tow?
See if he said I cant believe you let them take her then it would seem he knows who has her.
And since Haleigh went missing before and almost drowned… why did Crystal feel Haleigh was safe there? But she must have, cause she had not called Haleigh for two weeks…
I know, I know… but Cobra says not Ron…
I know he says not Ron but how could Ron say how could you let them take her?? To me it seems Ron knows who has her.
I mean I don’t know what to think. If Ron said that then he has a clue as to who took her. So why not just spill the beans.
Interesting question about Misty being out, having the kids in tow… but the cops say they think she was home that night… and Jr. did not get snatched… and the consensus seems to be a family member has her…
Yes…….a family member so someone knew Misty was not in the right frame of mind and took a opportunity while it knocked!
Yeah, seems like he has some serious suspicions that he has never made public. He has a way of alienating the people that want to help him and he is aware the media does not have his best interest at heart… but your kid is missing so who cares how you look?
At the end of the Geraldo interview a few posts back, Ron does give a very emotional and heartfelt message to his daughter and Geraldo shows enough class to actually make sure he gives Ron the time and quiet to do it so that there is a clear message to Haleigh. Ron says he won’t give up and when Geraldo asks of he believes she is dead, he says he will never believe she is dead until they find her.
His behavior fluctuates so wildly I think he has turned the press against him.
And now I have no idea if he knows anything or is just smug most of the time.
I bet he knows who has her I mean he said I cant believe you let them take her…Maybe he is smug cus of all the accusations made by Crystal and her mother and KP…maybe the God can judge me is cus he married a tween….I just dont get it if he can say “them” then he has some clue as to who!
But for Misty to hand over Haleigh (cause they did not change her clothes and stuff and Misty sleep through all of it.. sorry, just can’t buy that), it must have been someone that had picked up Haleigh before… or Misty would have caused a fuss…
… I have been operating on a Haleigh was gone by the time Ron went to work… but if those coworkers are correct and heard Ron talking about putting her to bed…
It is all so confusing…
Actually, it’s not so confusing as it is just heartbreaking…
LE says that from o around 7pm on there is NO solid account or timeline?
Cobra says its from after the bus dropped her off?
I know its heartbreaking…I love Haleigh. I want her found safe sooo badly…..She is part of my life now. Completely wrapped around her.
Ok, in the vid on the link in my name…
There are pictures of Ron and Haleigh using her breathing machine… obviously from a while back… but for those wondering what kind of breathing machine she had, I would assume if she had 2 they were very similar to the one in these pics…
What is it a nebulizer or whatever?
I don’t think I had seen all the pics that are on that last vid…
I don’t think there is a timeline after the bus dropped her off… truthfully, I didn’t even know the bus… I could swear I read Misty picked her up in the van?
So the only independent testimony are the coworkers overhearing the phone convo, but they could have been mistaken, or misheard.
But I am convinced Misty is just too dumb to carry out a lie this far… she would have had to let something slip by now.
Ok I wonder if Misty was whailin on Haleigh and she had an asthma attack and Misty didnt give her her air?
No I thought other adults seen her pic her up at the bus stop?
Yes Misty is not bright but…..
I don’t know, bread box size white machine with a tube and a mask…
We do know Misty has a nasty streak from her attacks on Amber and threats to take her baby.
You mean like they drop the kids off at the housing area entrance and they walk the rest of the way and Misty picked her up there?
Or at the bus stop at school?
I seen it its a breathing machine..
See wonder if Haleigh had asthma attack and refused air from Misty or Misty laid a whoopin into her and she needed her air…and it wasnt provided…I know everyone says she is alive but the possibilities are out there that she isnt….
It was over heard supposedly Ron saying whip her….whip her…
Does one of Ron’s relatives go by Barbi?
Yes picked up at the stop after school.
*knock knock*
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PAW!!!!!!!!!! 🙂
Picklesssssssssssss
I miss you woman. 🙁
I think the last vid was put up on YouTube by Ron’s mom… the pics are family pics, but taken by someone other than Ron… I am betting it is his mom… lots of pics I have never seen… I can’t believe the media did not snatch up some of these and run with them…
I miss you too!! Nice of you to join us!! Its quiet in here….
I think there adorable pics of Haleigh and the ones with him are soo sweet.
It gives you a whole new perspective on Ron, doesn’t it?
I thought Space and I was the only ones with no Memorial Day plans aday! 🙂 We is having a BNN BBQ here !! lol…..
It is quiet in here. *sigh*
Spacely, That’s because the media wants to make this worse than it really is. And Crystal does as well. I feel they are trying to make this a circus. But Ron won’t allow that to happen.
Ive seen some pics of him and her and he loves her you can see it its not fake like kc and Caylee either he loves his girl
I wonder though what his smugness is due to.?
This one has a ton of family pics too.
A circus ala anthony style!! with michelle bart who loves me and cindy anthony who loves me…oh yes the circus de la foundations
Maybe that is just the way he is… it has always bothered me… it does make him seem to know what is going on… and the pushing aside of questions with the I was at work thing…
Surely if family had her, she would have been located by now.
I just don’t know.
She looks just like Ron..
You wanna know something else on Marie’s myspace page all her pics are of Crystal and Ron and the babies I think she liked Ron and wanted him to be with her daughter.
I’ll bring the Rib eye.
It could be due to anything. All I know is he loves his kids. His kids are his life.
We weren’t given a book on how to deal with stuff like this. At least Ron isn’t going from show to show talking BS like the Ants have from the word GO.
Ron’s attys seem to practice a higher standard of public communication than Crystal’s. You never see them on TV and they issue all their statements as press releases without seeking TV time.
KP seems to like the talk show circuit.
I wonder how long Crystal normally went without talking to Haleigh? She was going on three weeks when she went missing. I wonder if that was her normal schedule… about once a month.
How can he answer the questions if he was at work. Why try and answer something if you have no clue, ya know.
I agree he loves his kids……Have you seen maries myspace she has plenty of pics of Ron and the babies and Crystal…
You think this was a attempt to turn Ron against Misty to win him back? I get the link to the myspace.
Ya I know
I heard she missed Haleigh’s appt.’s to which she was required to attend due to her estrogen being needed or something from the Turners Syndrome
myspace.com/luckylady1207
I have all there myspace links.
U want?
Hi, PAW 69! It quieted down a bit but you should have been here this morning and some other times recently! Really great conversations! And I agree with what you said that “At least Ron isn’t going from show to show talking BS like the Ants have from the word GO.” AND he threw the ants OUT! LOL!
Told them he didn’t want their help! And that the situation with Caylee was nothing like the situation with Haleigh! And he’s RIGHT! Good for him!
I guess she turned off most her pics though 🙁
Does Ron’s mom have one?
What i will check !
Spacely this is where the pics of Ron is…it seems that its more for Haleigh’s benefit though…
viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=420148756&albumId=1154379
DID MY 3:15P POST COME THROUGH?
Spacely, I wonder if Ron has a misplaced macho kind of thing going on. What we’re seeing as a smug look may be trying to cover emotion or uncertainty or the fact that he really doesn’t have a clue but doesn’t want whoever took her to have the satisfaction. I don’t know. Just a thought!
Ms P yes the 3:15 is showing up with pic links
Could be maybe he is like that cus he wants to seem tough. I mean he does come from the hood…..bad the ghetto! Maybe its his outer image he is trying to make tough.
Pheeww do you see me now? LOL.
No my second 3:15 with all the myspace page links did that one show up??
Everyone has their own opinions about Ron. And that’s fine. But at the same time, I feel until we know for a fact that’s he’s involved, he is cleared from any wrong doing at this point. Some ask, Why isn’t he out looking for her. Well I know he was out looking in the beginning when they went and picked him up. Maybe he doesn’t want to go without LE in fear if they do find her and she’s not alive. He shouldn’t be out looking on his own anyways. I dunno, Maybe I just look at things differently.
hey, where can I view these videos and pictures?
hello all, been reading and trying to catch up.
the 3:15 with the links is not up yet.
All good observations on Ron…
The links are either in the posts or click the names on the post…
I think the only 2 reasons he married Misty is #1 he had his birthday which would have made him by law to either leave her or marry her. #2 Always keep your enemies closest to you.
You got em! 🙂
I think he married her cus of her age…..or cus she is the last to see Haleigh? One or the other
Pickles @ 3:18 – I think it’s a possibility, Pickles. Guys like that have kind of a squirrley (to me) view of masculinity, you know?
And PAW,I agree.I don’t think any parent should actually be out looking. I said that in the ant case too. But with them they should not have so venomously condemned Tim Miller and others who were looking in the woods etc.
Ron is a particularly perplexing case because of some gaps and questions in his story AND he married the one person who supposedly was actually THERE when it happened. I wonder what she told him? And the length of time between when he got home supposedly and the time of the 911 call could have been taken with him questioning Misty – ready to go get his daughter himself – and/or getting rid of whatever drugs they had in the house before the police got there. If there’s criminal stuff to hide – whether it’s related to Haleigh’s disappearance or not – it just muddies the water more. And that’s unfortunate.
I think he’s done what he could do – for example the recently released video plea. He doesn’t have to expose himself to more ridiculous media questions at a live press conference if he doesn’t want to. Obviously neither he nor his lawyer are looking for that kind of fame – unlike KP (Crystal’s lawyer)
Squirrley 😆
The Ant case always comes back up…
I think his lawyer just says to let LE handle the searching.
Spacely, Crystal and KP have tripped my trigger since day 1. Something isn’t right at all with them.
Yeah, I think so too Pickles. I’ve seen him cry, I’ve seen them all say he went looking. I’ve seen his pain.
That’s more than the Ants have ever done for Caylee.
Kuddos to Ron for all he’s done for all the right reasons.
Is that ham and cheese I smell? Fumunda cheese.
I thought they were ok at first, but Crystal’s mom always set off all my alarms…
Why would I have to keep looking at my mother while being asked questions on NG???? That is what first alarmed me.
PAW @ 3:39 – I agree. It is possible that something Ron did or was involved in has something to do with Haleigh being taken – or Ron may fear that is the case. If so he must be tormented. Maybe not. I don’t know. Just speculating about possibilities.
My tendency is to think that Misty had something to do with it, did it herself, knows who did it and is not saying OR it was one of those horrible unbelievable kidnappings by a stranger. That does happen.
Question:
Has Tim Miller searched for Haleigh, or Did the Ants screw that up?
Paw, exactly, the looking thing, but Misty did that with Ron… which is why the case is so confusing. I see mixed signals from all sides, but all the key players are poor communicators, so a lot of it is perception and getting past stereotypes and trying to understand their messages.
Spacely @ 3:35 – It was my subconscious! 🙂
But I have to add a third possibility to those I consider and that is Crystal’s family. Something very weird there.
I mean look at it from the point of view of who benefited from Haleigh’s disappearance?
Possibly Misty. Definitely Crystal who couldn’t keep up with the child support, doctor’s appointments or pretty much anything else to do with her daughter.
That KP is a show boat..
YES kudos to ROn!
PAW – Tim looked I think but local LE told him NOT to look in certain areas. Can’t remember the reasons – dangerous wild areas? Anyone remember?
Tim searched. He stopped.
Why is somewhat in question. Either back on this thread or the last one, I posted some articles about it.
The gist is Tim says the police asked him to stop and leave. The police say they never asked.
Equusearch members have said the police cited danger from illegal activities in the woods. The police say they never asked them to stop.
Tim searched for Haleigh once I think
PAW I never liked that how she looks at Marie when asked a question.
Ms. P – When I read your comment at 3:50 an image jumped into my mind of KP on a yacht “generously donated” by the new non-profit Haleighbug Headquarters to further the search for missing children! LOL!
In the woods….In the GHETTO out in the swamp woods. lol.
Spacely – My bet is on Tim. If LE even gave him a hint that they did not want him there he’d leave and I don’t blame him after all the trouble with the ants etc. That was not LE’s fault, of course, but I’m sure the last thing Tim wants is ANY kind of trouble. Plenty of people and places need him who won’t hinder him in any way.
We all know that Tim won’t leave or stop unless he is told to.
I still think she’s either in the water, OR, she was taken by a family member of Crystal’s by boat.
A yacht!! Yes a yacht!
Happy Memorial Day all,
Didn’t Ron and Amber live together for a few years also, until Misty told Ron that Amber was out and about messing around, I think Misty was their babysitter and that’s how he met Misty….I don’t know, I really don’t think Ron had anything to do with it, it’s obvious he truly loves Haleigh and Jr., Haleigh is his heart.
Family by boat…or in the water. Someone else says that she is at the bottom of water.
I have to wonder about the breathing machine….that this is huge she must have bad breathing issues.
Any possible way Crystal and KP have been buddies for a while and KP had someone take her and used KP Yacht?
KP was brought in by Cobra cus Crystal cried to him that she wanted custody of the kids back…or Jr. and so he led KP to Crystal….Me thinks Marie the grandma is the brains of this operation
BRB, need a smoke break.
Kinda emotional today too.
KP swears she came into the case by seeing it on TV, which would mean no prior interaction with Crystal or her family.
Ok…we b here!!
Smoke on smoker!
NOPE Cobra asked her to help cus Crystal cried to Cobra about Ron sending the papers to the wrong address and now Haleigh is missing and she wants custody of the kids back.
As seen on TV?
🙂
I read a few quotes from Tim Miller that EquuSearch had other searches to make and if LE needed them to come back, they would be back.
Does anyone know if it’s been said where Haleigh’s gold necklace(s) are? I’m wondering if they were found in the house or if she was wearing one or both when she went missing. I noticed in those photos sometimes she had on two necklaces, sometimes one and sometimes none.
I have never heard anything regarding the necklaces
I don’t know anything about necklaces. But they probably got sold for drugs. Especially if Misty was drugged out the weekend before.
Hock shop lets go!!
Can I ask an off the topic question?
Yes we can TALK OFF TOPIC IF WE WANT TO!!
Off topic is allowed by the BNN editors.
Thank you very much…NO MATTER what the off topic police say.
Jimmie Johnson Has every service member’s name on His race car and if you want to see anyone’s name they said to go to http://www.lowesracing.com
Well it’s either real busy now, or this page is just real slow for me. Can someone else please try to get in that site. Thank You.
It still hasnt loaded completely for me lol
The site says the employees who are serving. But on TV they said ALL service members. I’m finally getting somewhere now lol.
Its a scam to get you to hit there site! 😯
Yep, it’s for the employees only. GRRR. Oh well.
All that lame waiting and its for employees thats prejudice! LOL
Hi all, How is everyone this evening? Kids have been over. So cute.
I would have bought the car if his name was on it too Pickles.
Hiya lock. I’m okay. Tired of rain, it’s even raining on my races once again.
I’m exhausted. lol.
Lockwood
LOL PAW you be racing in a fast mobile!! lol.
Oh no, not the real car, I wish lol. The display cars. lol.
OH a toy car….LOL 😳
I am tired of rain myself. We have had rain here today as well and are suppose to get four more days of it
Paw how have you been?
Tomorrow will be back to normal day. All the flags around town look so nice. Prayers for our troops and their families.
I’m doing alright. I’ve had better days.
Good evening everyone!
Hi, Lockwood!
That means “prayers for PAW and her family!”
And we DO send them, PAW! And to all your hubby’s service buddies and their families!
Im sorry you all have rain…that blo’s ..I come from the land of almost year round rain….but its sunny and hot here now…for the next 4 months….ahhhh love it!! Summer is here in the Pacific Northwest!!! ♥
Hi, Marla! How are you?
Marla!!
PAW I am here for you!! ♥
Yes prayers to PAW and her family!!!
I am doing fine..how is everyone else?
I see no new news out of Satsuma
PAW, my hubby watches races too and I learned something that surprised me today. I knew that they often stopped a race for a while due to rain but I thought that was only because the course got slippery. That’s one reason of course but not the only one. Apparently it’s not a good idea for the cars to get wet! LOL!
I never would have thought of that! A big tough strong race car being such a “fragile” thing that it shouldn’t get wet! Just struck me as funny! Whoda thought?
Thank You all very much. We appreciate it.
BRB.
Marla seeing that pic of Sandra brought a tear to my eyes.
m2c, The tires have nothing on them. Just rubber. lol. Did you see when they stopped at 3pm and put the flags at 1/2 staff and had a moment of silence? Nascar is so awesome.
Aww sorry MsPickles. She was a precious little girl.
Yes, PAW. I missed part of it. I think they were talking about all the drivers or relatives of drivers who are or have been in the military, too. That was nice.
That little cottage in Sandra’s memory is so cute. Thanks for the link Marla. I had heard about it being taken to the school that she went to but had not seen it. Precious. I hope that sweet angel did not suffer. So sad.
Your quite welcome Lockwood. A friend of mine found it and started the forum.
OMG.. by the time i found you guys its allready time to go!!! gee you all move around to darn mutch 🙁 🙁 one more cig then i gotta go i posted on all 3 articls b4 i realised you guys left allready:(:(:(:(
hello Is every one gone to Bed?
Gooooooooood mooooooooooorning Bloooooooooger Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeews
Did everyone fall off the face of the earth?
bbl got to take a shower. What happened to everyone?
FOLLOW THE WHITE RABBIT……….FOLLOW THE WHITE RABBIT…………..FOLLOW THE WHITE RABBIT
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ever step in some thing and cant get it off your shoe well thats cobra
a hound a best
well thats my thought from hell
P.S. get new shoes
DID ANYONE HEAR THE GRANDMA OF MISTY CUMMINS ON NANCY GRACE? WHAT SHE SAID CAME STRAIGHT FROM HER OWN KIN, AND WITH ALL MY HEART I BELIEVE HER, AND I DO LIVE IN PUTNAM CO AND I PERSONALLY KNOW RON And x-wife CRYSTAL, I DO BELIE3VE WHAT THE GRANDMA SAID THE BOY THAT CAME VISITING FROM TENNESSEE DONE THAT TO THAT BABY GIRL AND THREW HER IN THE RIVER TO COVER HIS TRACKS,
‘SHELL HARBOR’
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