Satsuma Florida- A question that sounds all so familiar when even thought. Like Caylee, Haleigh has vanished leaving no trace as to her where abouts. Where is Haleigh? For months I thought many possibly thousands of times where is Caylee. Sadly Caylee’s body was discovered not to far from the home her and her mother shared with her grandparents. I stopped thinking where Caylee is, no longer was that a nagging presence in my mind. Now just a few months after Caylee’s body was found, there is another missing child out of Florida being blasted and paraded all over the television and internet. Little Haleigh Cummings, a doll a sight in any parents eye. One of the sweetest precious sights I have ever laid my eyes on. Sadly I have acquired that nagging presence in my mind again. Where is Haleigh?
Thousands of children go missing each and every day not only in America but all around the world. Yet we don’t get to see them or hear there names. Why Haleigh, why Caylee? It saddens my heart to know that all children don’t get the same rights, or coverage as other children seem to be graced with. Yet I can’t help from caring for Haleigh even though she gets more attention and coverage then any other child missing every day since her disappearance. I think and contemplate where is Haleigh. The last person to see her has given multiple accounts as to what transpired the night she disappeared. The person who last had contact with Haleigh has been questioned numerous times. Its understandable considering that person was the last one to see Haleigh. Haleigh’s father was out of the house working when Haleigh disappeared. Haleigh’s mother doesn’t reside with Haleigh, she lives in another town.
Unfortunately Haleigh lives in an area infested with sexual offenders and predators of various kinds. They reside all around where Haleigh spent her days for months. I recall reading that within a 5 mile radius to where Haleigh lives there are 45 sexual offenders. They are everywhere, it is not just a right as a parent but a responsibility to be aware and take advantage of the tools given to us to inform ourselves of who is living near us. We are these children’s protectors there shelter. We can’t just let them roam free and hope they will show back up when the street lights come on. Where is Haleigh? That is the burning pit inside of me now. Where did she go, who has her, why was she taken? I don’t blame her father for not wanting to move back into the house she disappeared from. I couldn’t do it myself if I were in his shoes. I’d rather live in the tent in the mud. I am at a loss for words. I read that Haleigh requires medicine for an ailment she was born with. If she is alive and well she needs this medicine to be healthy. Does whoever have her realize this?
I can only hope and pray that whoever has Haleigh will come to there senses and realize that they have the power to help her. To put an end to this, to let her family have her back. I hope that whoever is holding Haleigh captive will look inside themselves and outside at her. She is a human she has blood coursing through her veins, she breathes oxygen, and she has a soul. She in not the property of whoever is keeping her captive and if she is alive being held by someone that’s the only way I can think it in my mind. The thought of her not being alive is just too much to bare so soon after Caylee. I am a Joe nobody. My feelings and thoughts amount to a hill of beans. That doesn’t mean I don’t care. It doesn’t mean I don’t want to see this child home again. I am like the thousands of other people in the world, American, Canadian, Australian, and Irish etc. that want to see her home.
This stopped being just for America the second it was released to the internet. Me, like thousands of other people want to see Haleigh returned safe to her family. If she is out there somewhere, someone is watching her they know she is the most sought after child today. Please bring Haleigh home.
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackMY NAME IS GINNY MEADE AND I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMEMT WITH THIS ARTILE AND I GIVE IT A HUNDRED PERCENT, I COULDN’T HAVE WRITTEN IT BETTER MYSELF. I AM AMAZED AT THE NAMES OF CAYLEE AND HALEIGH BEING SO MUCH ALIKE. I JUST PONDER THIS IN MY HEART AND WONDER IF THIS CAME ABOUT BY SEEING SO MUCH ON THE NEWS ABOUT CAYLEE. COMING SO SOON AFTER LITTLE CAYLEE WAS FOUND DEAD MAKES ME WONDER, EVEN THOUGH I SUSPECT THAT CAYLEE’S MOTHER IS HER MURDERER, I WONDER IF ALL THIS HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH HAYLEIGH’S DISAPPEARANCE. I PRAY THAT LITTLE GIRL IS ALIVE BUT I WONDER WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE IN THE END. I PRAY THAT SHE WILL BE SENT HOME SOON AND ALIVE. WHO EVER HAS HER WILL SURELY SUFFER IN THE END IF THEY DON’T BRING HER HOME ALIVE. THEY MAY THINK THEY WILL GET AWAY WITH IT BUT THEY WILL NOT. SO IF YOU ARE THE PERSON WHO READS THIS AND YOU HAVE THIS LITTLE GIRL AND SHE IS ALIVE WOULD YOU THINK HARD ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING….YOU NEED TO CHECK YOUR HEART IF YOU HAVE ONE AND BRING THIS CHILD BACK, EVEN IF YOU DON’T SHOW YOUR SELF…PLEASE LEAVE HER AT A SAFE PLACE LIKE A HOSPITAL. PLEASE …PLEASE…PLEASE DO THIS, YOU WON’T BE SORRY BUT IF YOU DON’T…YOU WILL REGRET IT ONE DAY. IF NOT HERE ON EARTH AT THIS TIME, YOU WILL IN THE JUDGMENT DAY OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST WHO IS COMING ANY DAY NOW. BELIEVE IT OR NOT…THATS UP TO YOU BUT HE WILL COME SOON AND HE WILL JUDGE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO THIS LITTLE GIRL.
Jan, like you I am at a loss for words. When Haleigh first went missing I said “I can’t go through this again.” I know it’s really selfish and ridiculous to feel that I had any stake in this abduction, just like it was for the Caylee case. I can’t help myself though. It’s not just grief for a beautiful little girl but for the whole human condition at this point. I just keep thinking,”what is wrong with people?” Rhetorical question, I know, as there is not a single cause and therefore not one single cure. From an upper middle class neighborhood to a trailer park to a fancy resort (baby Maddie). WHERE DID THEY GO? And then, WHY?
And you’re right, there is no way I could go back to that house either if I were Ronald. How could you bear to go back when all that is echoing off the walls is the deafening silence that once was the happy singing of your child?
Sorry, the post above is for Stone, not Jan. So used to reading Jan’s posts that I just went on automatic.
yes….we want haleigh to be ok. i feel that all the average people like me can do is to be alert in case you would happen to see her and to pray for her. lets hope shes not with a sex offender. God will judge anyone that hurts her.
I have had a ‘problem’ with the dad, Ron and Misty, the girlfriend from the beginning of Haleigh’s disappearance. I think he had something to do with her disappearance and Misty is covering for him. There is more to this than meets the eye !
LilyWong….I too think there is something else going on here something aint right…Poor Haleigh..
It is curious that ever since the Dad was confronted by Geraldo, he hasn’t given one press conference.
Also, I heard that he may have movers come and move the trailer. You would think he would stay put.
It was unusual with 911 tape, when asked her date of birth, he just yelled at the operator. I wonder if he even knew.
I hope he is not involved, but I do think Misty is one tough cookie and could be covering for him.
Just as we got a bit of ‘closure’ the day of Caylee’s long-deserved memorial, I was saddened to learn of another little girl being taken from her family.
There is a difference in the cases though. Caylee did not ‘vanish without a trace’ as Haleigh did. Her carseat, doll, clothes and diapers were left in the mother’s abandoned car with other evidence. Her own mother was very much involved with her disappearance.
The other difference we see is Haleigh’s parents calling 9-1-1 within minutes and making heartwrenching pleas on TV for her safe return immediately.
I pray Haleigh is returned home soon. She every other child who have been taken from their loved ones are in my prayers.
Let’s all remember that Caylee was presumed to be killed by her mother and not a sex offender. I am sorry but just because a/some sex offender(s) live in an area does not mean they did anything to that child.
stone….what about the little brother who says he saw a man come in dressed in black and take his sister away? some are thinking maybe the dad had something to do with it and maybe he did, i don’t know but i am like some who are feeling that something is fishy and osen’t seem or even feel right about this case. i am so worried that something bad is going on and i am so scared for little haleigh. like i said before whoever has her please return her if you can…meaning if she is still alive or even if you have done something to her, she needs to come home either way. i am hoping she is still alive. i do know one thing. the devil is on a war path trying to kill and to steal, just like the bible says. he knows hat our children are the most important thing to us and that he not only is taking them in abortions….he is taking them afer they are born and beyond. from new born to young teens and beyond that. we must all be watchful and look our for children. keeping our eyes open
no matter where we are.
I think the bio mother has Haleigh hidden and with this she won’t have to pay back the child support of ove 4 thousand dollars. In the end she would have Haleigh and her son JR.
Both children did nothing to startled and wake up Misty.Why?The children must have know the person in black or the boy was coached to say someone dressed in black took his sister.
stone…AWSOME, and heart felt!!!
if a man in black really came in he was probably dressed in black to blend in with the outside(nighttime) kids can have a wonderfull memory, and not about things you would naturally think, im only going on things my daughter has rembred, things i wouldnt have noticed…
sick of it…would you like to not know so many offenders lived in you neighborhood with your young children???? personally the public need to be informed more im sure her dad would not have left that house had he know how may child molesters lived in that neighborhood…the problem is to many right for these scum bags…the public should be notified the minute one of these a$$ holes is released so they can take percatiouns(move) in this case seems to be the pedifile dump groend this neighborhood!! so are you one and do you live there??
I ABSOULTLY HATE SEX OFFENDERS OF ANY KIND…i have no one speck of compasion or understanding for them nor will i ever!!!
i also think the real mom has some involvment..maybee jelous of misty and dads relasionship or of mistys and her children all i know is she hasnt seemed as upset as the dad and always looking to her mother for the answer…hm…
This is a drug deal gone bad, the father seems to have a heavy life style he probally owes money to someone and they have his daughter till he pats or he did someone wrong why oick on the little tots that gets to me, the poor kids have to suffer why cant parents be more responsoble for theit actions and act like parents not like kids, they smoke too many cigarettes ! Brain farts is all they have
YOU KNOW SDOMETHING FOLKS, AFTER READING SOME OF THESE COMMENTS…IT TAKES ME BACK TO THE VERY FIRST TIME THAT I SAW THE MOTHER ON TV AND PICKED UP ON HER DEMEANOR, I REMEMBER THINKING THAT IF THAT WERE MY CHILD MISSING I WOULD BE SO HORRIFIED THAT I COULDN’T EVEN HARDLY SPEAK TO A CAMERA PERSON. SOOMS LIKE THERE IS SOMETHING GOING N THAT THE FAMILY KNOWS MORE ABOUT THAN THEY ARE SAYING. UNLESS IT IS JUST THEIR WAY OF COMING ACROSS TO THE MEDIA. IF THAT IS TRUE THEN IT IS MOST LIKELY A SEX OFFENDER. WHO KNOWS… IT IS TRULY MIND BOGGLING TO ME, POOR LITTLE HALEIGH, WHICH EVER WAY AND WHO EVER HAS HER…IT HAS TO BE HORRIBLE FOR HER, OR WAS HIORRIBLE IF SHE NO LONGER IS ALIVE.
Im with you Anna scrutinize all the SO’s!
Caryl….there are alot of ppl who think that its a drug deal gone south!
I am truly shocked at so many negative responses targeting the parents and girlfriend. Geraldo is also a very vindictive person to hold such a horrible interview with a grief stricken father who clearly is suffering beyond anyones comprehension. I, like the majority of intelligent people, can see the hurt in the families faces and the horror of not knowing where the child is, so keep your disgusting accusations to yourself. I cannot understand releasing these child rapist from prison they should all stay there for the rest of their lives and not be set among us anymore. Drug dealers do not steal children.
Hey I blamed the sexual offenders thank you very much Evelyn…and a sexual offender aint right!!
Excuse me Evelyn DRUG DEALERS DO STEAL CHILDREN WHY DONT YOU TRY LOOKING UP COLE PUFFINGBURGER FOR A SECOND..Get down off your high horse and type COLE PUFFINGBURGER into your browser…his grandpappie was into the MEXICAN METH LORDS for 22 MILLION DOLLARS and they stole COLE PUFFINGBURGER because of it!
DRUG DALERS WILL DO ANYTHING TO ANY ONE…THEY DON’T CARE AS LONG AS THEY GET BACK AT YA FOR A DEAL GONE WRONG. THERE ARE SO MANY DRUGGIES AROUND ALL OF US ND THEY DON’T CARE WHAT COLOR OR HOW BIG OR HOW LITTLE YOU ARE. AND YES THEY WILLTAKE YOUR CHILDREN. EVEN THEIR OWN IT DON’T DONT MATTER TO THEM. LOOK AT THE SINGER WHO’S MOTHER AND BROTHER AND NEPHEW WAS KILLED….THE NEPHEW I BELIEVE WAS THE KILLERS SON. AND BACK TO THE CHILD MOLESTERS….THEY MOLESTR THEIR OWN CHILDREN AND TORTURE THEM. I KNOW THIS FROM FIRS HAND. SOCIETY NEEDS TO WAKE UP TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE IN A CRUEL TIME IN THIS OLD WORLD WHERE THE RULER OF DARKNESS IS GOING MAD. THERE OUGHT TO BE A LAW THAT WOULD CASTERATE EVER MAN WHO MOLESTS A CHILD. SOUNDS CRUEL….I DON’T THINK SO…THE CRUEL PART IS WHAT IS DONE TO HE CHILD.
Casting asperions on this father accusing him of being a drug dealer or the recipient of a cruel act of a drug dealer is disgusting. Of course in this life there have been CASES of revenge from drug dealers because anything you can think of or conjure up has happened. The father needs positive love and encouragement not accusations that are so negative. Casteration does no good to child rapists they should be put away for good. What is this high horse crap anyway????? I don’t think Cummings has ever heard of 22 million dollars.
JUST WANTE TO SAY THAT I WASN’T REFWEERING TO THE DAD AS BEING ON THE END OF A DRUG DEAL GONE WRON….WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, I WAS REFEERING TO TO THE FACT THAT WHEN IN GENERAL A DRUG DEAL GOES WRONG THAT THERE IS MOST LIKELY HELL TO PAY FOR WHOEVER IS INVOLVED. I DON’T HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT THIS DAD, WHAT HE IS LIKE NO MORE THAN ANY OF YOU AND I SURELY DON’T WANT TO LEAVE AN OPINION THAT I WAS REFEERING TO HIM. JUST GETTING OUT MY FEELINGS ABOUT SOMEONE SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT THE DRUGS AND THAT A DRUGGIE WOULDN’T TAKE IT OUT ON SOME ONES KIDS….OH YES THEY WOULD.
See witness statements on pages 7-11 of the following divorce petition document. This father is not so sqeaky clean…and though he is obviously distraught, angry, and every other emotion that goes along with any missing child; I personally believe that Ronald’s/his
girlriends/ex-wife, etc. lifestyle has come back to haunt them all. What made these people think that this lifestyle would never affect their children or their safety!!!!!
http://www.fox30online.com/media/news/1/3/e/13e1a8a0-e082-477f-9698-11a796f76a10/petineer.pdf
I don’t waste my time making accusations. I spend my time praying for Haleigh and her family and friends and for all of us that are hurting over her. Things need to be changed big time in this country to start protecting our children. In schools and at home. And as for anyone that hurts children they need to be locked away for good. Why are they walking the streets? Time for us to get them off the streets and fix the school systems too. I do not forget the shootings that happen at schools and we are vunerable for this to happen again. How many children have to die before we wake up and really do something? Each missing child deserves full media and public attention until the child is found. It made me sad that for a few days we hear news then, I have to dig deep to receive updates. As for Haliegh I am very hopeful she will be returned alive to her family. This case is unique and has many twists and turns, who knows what the outcome will be. Maybe this family isn’t perfect, but none of us are. One note..I heard the mother was asked to do a DNA test and disapeared. Do you guys have an update on that? Like I said the news is slacking on updates at least here on the internet. Keep praying!!!!!!
ok first off anyone who thinks a drug dealer or someone working for the dealer wouldn’t hurt a child needs to get out of the stone age. Get real sweety u must be on drugs your self to think something that ridiculous. A drug dealer or anyone who is owed money or has been “narked” on by someone will usually seek revenge. Most will not take it to that extent but someone messing with big money or a big time dealer has no mercy on family. A child is priceless so if u owe them money ull pay it right away to get ur child back and if ur lucky that person will have not killed ur child. Besides this point im not saying that this is what happened anything could have happened to this poor child. Its pathetic how people take tragic events like these to build a movie in their mind of this and that rather than simply worrying about the child being returned. Granted it usually is a family memeber but until proven give them the benefit of the doubt. Its a sad world now days u cant even walk out side to check ur mail without worrying about what may happen. Children are not even able to go explore outside anymore bc of sick predators times have changed and its pathetic. Children arent even able to be children anymore bc of sick people that need to be locked up for the rest of their life. You can rehabilitate a drug addict, a thief, a alcoholic, but a child molester get freakin real. You cant fix the sickness of that mind.
This goes to show that these druggies care nothing about the life of a little innocent child if it is true that this has something to do with this girl’s disappearance.
It is very strange that this place where Haleigh lives is so close together but noone knows nothing about this child vanishing into thin air.
I have a problem with the girlfriend, in that I don’t mean she did anything to the kid but that maybe she was gone and left the children alone in bed. She has too many holes in her story maybe because she apparently was not there when this kid was snatched by this monster.
I hope they find this bastard and hang him.
I too think about this little girl everyday. I keep looking on cnn or the news for some good news that they found her. So far it just seems that the media has just dropped the case. What is going on? No more leads? If this was my girl I would be on the news everyday until I found her. I think something is not right too, from day one I could not but think that perhaps Misty went out at night and left those kids alone and did not lock the door. I first thought that maybe Haleigh went wondering looking for Misty, but ever since the brother says he say someone I think foul play is involved. Her Dad seems like a loose cannon and perhaps the last lead on the relative who is a sex predator that he had the fight with took her? We don’t hear anymore on that? Did they find him and question him? Come on police what is going on??? God Bless Haleigh!! If she is out there please whoever took her bring her home the rest of us can’t sleep at night knowing another child is not in their own bed. what is this world coming too if you can’t put a kid to bed and they are not safe in their own homes. If that person has a gripe with her Dad then take it out on the Dad not the little girl she did nothing!
Why should we waste our tax dollars even keeping these predators alive? Getting caught and jail time are obviously not working. We need to send sexual predators a stronger message. If we start putting them to death — maybe even in a painful way — perhaps the number of sex predators will decrease. I know it sounds harsh, but there is a flaw in being too humane and our children suffer because of it. When will the children be put first?
I think this is what happened, I believe Ronald and Misty planned this,she got mad at haleigh for wetting the bed and either pushed her or she fell and hit her head and she panicked and she called Ronald and they called a friend to come get her and not return her until they say so, they got married so when all of this comes down they dont have to testify against each other cause they are married. because they were taking up collections to help financially and that was the hole plot was there financial gain was met Haleigh will return un harmed I belive shes towards Tampa area My gut feeling.This Misty is like a puppet on a string.
I FEEL THEY SHOULD REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT COBRA HAS TO SAY
I pray for the safe return of Haleigh, however I am shocked by some of the comments on here but I will not target anyone specific. However, if anyone is a suspect I would not single out the mother as one post states. It would be the girlfriend….perhaps a little confusion on who was last with her….I myself do not feed into my suspicion…I find that not all is what is seems to be. Many times, yes, a parent is the culprit, yet many times not!.. even when all the circumstantial evidence points that way…Everything is possible in the world today!
Letter to the Prime Minister of Canada
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Dear Mr. Prime Minister,
This email is not coming to you from a Conservative, or a Liberal. I am just a Canadian, and a parent. In recent years I have become more aware of things happening in the Justice System, I suppose more so since I became a parent and became more concerned with anything that might concern my children. It seems that every day I am hearing about a child being abducted or murdered. I know this seems to happen more in Other Countries but here in Canada we are not immune. The abduction, rape, and/or murder of our children cannot be allowed to continue. There have been many studies to show that these criminals cannot be cured, and they are released back into Society to re-offend time after time. When is Enough Enough?
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/change-sex-offender-laws
That is a petition I have started to gain support for this situation. In 24 hours it has received 112 signatures, and counting. I know that there are many pressing items before you, but I do not think any of them more important than our children. Not just Canadian, but all children around the world. People from Australia, Belgium, and Russia just to name a few places that people are touched by this. Have taken the time to put their name to this cause. I implore you to stand up for our children, and stop these violent offenders from harming our babies. Please, one more child to die is too many.
Sean McAllister
I’m here! Am I first? Do I get a cookie?
Question is, is anyone else here and am I on the right article this time! Hello? Pickles, you here or are you still crackin that whip on the last article? I had a little trouble migrating again but I only took about 7 wrong turns this time opposed to the 4572 wrong turns I took yesterday with you and Beast leading the way! 😆
yes jules lol!
Hey im here
I’m here 😀
Oh Solo Meo….I’m all alone… it sucks to be me….I should go home….
Oh Pickly Poo….you need to work on your round up skills girl…. your slackin’ …. stray blogger doggies roaming every which way….I’m the only one in the corral! Hee Hee Hee 😆
Yeah… some stray doggies finally roaming in off the blogger range …. 😆
Hey Beast… how many signatures you got now?
C~A is catching up will be in shortly
116 now, it’s moving but I wish it was faster lol. It’s only been one day though
Damn Pickles…..I’ve heard of back to the future, but this is a blast from the past, but I found your rabbit hole anyway
Beast…. I hope it picks up too. I’m not a patient person. I want 1,000,000 signatures and I want them YESTERDAY! 😆
Papa! You found us! Yeah, Pickles and Beast have been toying with us lately on this rabbit hole thing! Bout can’t find them without GPS!
Jules is here so is Beast.
Beast….don’t sweat it. Give it 10-14 days. It will grow. This cause is just, this cause is righteous
MORE in FL. HLN at 2:00PM talks about Haleigh, Caylee, Sandra, and other news things.
In FL you can bypass the gun laws and gun checks. How? Go RENT a gun in a firing range. A mother did that. Shot her son, then killed herself.
Not sure how old he was. It is all on film, if you can imagine.
She left tapes and letters. Rambling, sounds nuts. Tried to do it before and her son stopped her. She would have NEVER gotten a gun of her own. History of mental illness. Clever, she beat the system. THEY ARE DETERMINED aren’t they? Can you imagine – could have killed others? We are safe NOWHERE??
here !
C~A said,
in April 8th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
julesb65 said,
in April 8th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Lorim… I’m with you…. the taking of the computer and phones is pretty fishy… I don’t think they could have obtained a warrant for those items without some pretty good evidence against Lawless or the people in that house.
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The ants search warrants…once after her arrest cause she lived there with the baby and the parents..and the second after the body was found casue they found something that directly related back to the ants house at the crime scene!
Tracy LE has to have something linking the pator…they don’t just spring search warrants on random people!
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If the tape from the baby’s skull matches that tape with the labels printed on it, thats about as strong a piece of direct evidence as I’ve heard yet in this case. I’m waiting on a reply from Hinkel now as to where tape with the labels is sold.
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Please let us know as soon as you know! I thought maybe that the reporter who posted that picture super imposed the name on it himself to show the brand to the public? Is that possible?
Heart… there was some nutbag story the other day about some guy who thought some item he bought and brought into the house was possessed and caused all of the family’s belongings to become possessed so he threw everything out of the house onto the lawn…. (that should have been his family and neighbors’ first clue the guy was insane)…. then the police were called when shouts and screams were heard coming from the house… the police arrived to find the guy beating his 3 yo son to beat the devil out of him…. boy will live (has skull fractures and other injuries) and this nutbag is smiling in his mug shot…. FREAKS!
C~A…I e-mailed Henkel earlier today and received an e-mail back letting me know I would be hearing from them within 24 hours as to where their product is sold with the label and what special applications it may or may not have.
It’s got to be some special type of tape because I’ve never seen duct tape like it before.
heart said,
in April 8th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Beast showed me the video today! OMG…that poor young man…prob. around 16-18 years old…not knowing that mommy set him up and was going to shoot him in the back of the head! That stupid biotch…I HATE IT WHEN THEY KILL THEMSELVES…DAMN!
I hope that something is done about this …she did beat the system…a history of MENTAL ILLNESS..AND THEY PUT A GUN IN HER HAND!
sEX offenders are “supposed” to register as such…that’s a whole other loop hole..but people with MENTAL ILLNESS…should have it stated on their drivers license or should have a national database for these people with their names and birthdates etc..so when someone who wants to go and RENT A GUN….needs to show proof of who they are and that they are NOT NUTS..yes peeps can get around this with fake i’ds etc..but it’s a start…MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE need just as much tracking as anyone else who is a high risk to society!
Where am I???? Am I here?? 🙂
Wahoo…Papa!!!! Way to investigate! I am with you in regards to it being a specialty tape, sold to business, rather then the general public!
Your here Mb….its an old Haleigh article….♥
MB…. you must have taken the scenic route ….. glad you finally made it! ;0 ♥
papa – ok so there are actual rolls printed with the name! That can’t be as popular as run of the mill plain duct tape…I mean there are name brands people will pay money for in clothing but not duct tape…so the clown is full of his own shitt as usual!
That’s good papa…Good for you ..!
Ya GO PAPA!!!
Caylee has the best on her side..
L8TRS !! ♥
JULES I just dont know. I am shaking my head … just don’t know. That is so sad. Another baby pays a high price, even if not dead. Who knows if brain injuries? Amazing isn’tit, WACKOS KNOW THE WAY! They will handle everything!!!
I think the killer in Binghamton NY who killed 13 lost his job, AND he was upset because he couldn’t speak our language well, and was teased?
There has to be signs, but maybe people pull a Cindy Anthony and choose not to see it? There we’ve coined something … pull a Cindy Anthony. We will ALL know what that means.
Ha ha … have to laugh – almost. Even my new P.T. that I just learned and do faithfully, HURTS LESS THEN the pain HERE!! THAT is SAYING SOMETHING!
Don’t forget the potato peeling “trick”. Just made some. GREAT – no peeling.
Heart Hints:
Put Olive oil in your slow cooker well. Easier clean up.
And there is a new GREAT SLOW COOKER cook book called “Fix-It and Forget-it Big Cookbook”. Terrific!! BIG! 1400 Recipes.
Papa…. keep us posted on what you find out. We may have to find a way to get your findings to LE just to make sure they have the info. We’re not citizen journalists…. we’re citizen law enforcement! 😆
I want LEADS in the haleigh case.
Heart… that freak that killed the 13 in NY sent a letter to the media…. says that LE was following him, were coming in his room at night and watching him sleep….would stop their cars in front of his but he was careful not to hit them… said LE ran him out of California and were trying to run him out of NY…wanted to deport him…. CAN YOU SAY LOONY TUNES? He ended the note with “have a nice day” and enclosed his driver’s license and pictures of him with his guns.
CIAM – I want ANSWERS in the Haleigh case!
Gotta go boys and girls…. you all behave yourselves and play nice with one another! 😀
♥♥♥ to my blogger buds!
My girls are all excited now because I told them they’re going with me to Orlando tomorrow to solve a mystery like Scooby Doo. I’ve printed pictures of the gas can’s tape and we’re going to hit every place in Orlando that sells duct tape to try to find some. I’m betting we don’t find it.
If we don’t find any, the girl’s won’t mind because they know ol Papa’s got annual passes to Disney World and we’ll stop by the Magic Kingdom for a little while after “work”.
Submerged Body Makes Investigation Tougher
TRACY, CA – The heartbreaking discovery of Sandra Cantu’s remains in an irrigation pond also means extra difficulty in the murder investigation, according to CSI experts.
“Time and the elements are the worst enemy for CSI,” one crime scene investigation expert told News10. “You don’t know how much time has passed. Time deteriorates evidence. If it’s underwater, that dilutes and compromises evidence like DNA.”
While it’s unknown how long she was alive, few child kidnapping victims survive much longer than 24 or 48 hours after being abducted, experts say.
Complicating matters in this case is the likelihood the murder happened in a different location from where the body was found inside a suitcase that had been dumped underwater. Another complication is the suitcase was apparently dumped into the pond at a different point than where it was discovered.
“The body itself has all the evidence. Fingerprints are oil, they will smear. If there are fingerprints it’ll be difficult to find,” said the expert, who declined to be named publicly. “What else might be inside that suitcase? They’ll have to look for trace fibers. If it’s sealed, if water hasn’t gotten in, that’s wonderful. If it’s your standard Samsonite, nope.”
Tracy police investigators haven’t revealed what else might have been discovered inside the suitcase, nor have they said anything about the condition of the body. Police only said the girl was dressed in the same pink “Hello Kitty” t-shirt and black leggings she was wearing at the time she disappeared.
Whatever analysis is done will take time. Even if DNA or fingerprint evidence is recovered, analysis and running database comparisons through Department of Justice labs can take weeks. Priority analysis can still take a long time.
-News 10
Night Jules!! ♥Muahhh!
oh stop papa…your makin me tear up! You are a wonderful person….Really! ♥
About Sandra ….
I heard somewhere that the Pastor has 2 grown sons. Are they involved? There would be (some) evidence in his home, she went there to play with his great grandchildren.
This case is moving right along. There are no GAME PLAYERS here — as there were in Caylee’s case and Haleigh’s case too. Nothing like A__ H___s who have a personal agenda – interferring in a case!
Grandfather saying he drove Sandra to school every day … I think. HLN. Looks like they tried. Everybody knows one another there they said …kids run free there.
They are saying she probably knew whoever it was. Doing multiple searches in houses, before they can CLEAN it UP!!!
They believe the killer is very familiar with the area. Knew the pond, out of the way. Local or very familiar with the area.
Might be some evidence on the “edited” video. Might be some evidence – car? Very small piece of the video got out…
Another press conference for Sandra in 15 minutes
Ok folks, I just came across a story and I am a little umm. Baffled. There is an interview with Pastor Lawless and wife at KCRA 3 . Here is a quote from the Pastor’s wife.
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“Lawless’ wife, Connie, added that Cantu visited their home often to play with their great-granddaughter.
“It breaks our hearts that anyone would take such a tiny little thing and abuse her and murder her,” she added.”
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Now, is it just me but wait a minute. No one has said that she was abused. And in fact no information has been released about anything. Is that a normal assumption? I dont know. What do you think?
lorim – 🙂 ? where
JULES!!!!! My God! I didn’t know that. Didn’t his family KNOW he was dangerous?? Single, yes but lived with parents??
All like Cindy “Ostrich” Anthony? Let’s pretend and it’ll go away.
Stupid Casey in ALL her “sophistication”, never heard of Birth Control, OR The Morning After Pill? Even if C the nurse, didn’t “know” she was pregnant? Boy Cindy is one sick muther isn’t she? So is maggot.
Beast – I think it’s a possible fraudian slip…she distinctly separates abuse and murder…she didn’t say brutally murder…she made a reference to two separate violations or acts! Nothing should be overlooked!
I asked this question yesterday…does anyone know why sandras mother was living with her parents?
or how old she is?
Beast.. Unfortunately, probably every child that is abducted and killed has been abused before death. Sick as it sounds, it probably is true. So, I guess Mrs Pastor assumes that fact.
Not that Pastor is guilty anything (YET). We have to wait to see what they find. Mrs Pastor is already standing behind her man (channeling Tammy Wynette).
When I hear a child has been killed (other than by mother ala Casey), they have usually been abused. Horrible.
Lets hope the CA police do a better job than the FL group are doing with corralling all the suspects before they all lawyer up.
Poor Sandra, beautiful happy girl. I will never get into the mind of a person who can kill a child. It must be a horribly dark evil place. And so horrendous for that child in her/his last hours.
WHERE IS HALEIGH?
C~A KCRA 3
Elaine yes ok…But would you say “its horrible that little girl was murdered, I hope she wasnt abused too”? or what she said?
SHASTA COUNTY, Calif. — A statewide Amber Alert issued for two children from Shasta County was canceled Wednesday afternoon after both children were found safe.
Maeleena Saephanh, 2, and Camron Saephanh, 5, were located in Redding. Both were earlier abducted earlier in the day from Shasta, according to the alert.
Police arrested 26-year-old Lo Saephanh in connection with the abduction after a short pursuit, police added.
Elaine – yes they are prob. all abused..but during an interview about a missing child…one should never assume or say anything they don’t have proof of! If she/he is innocent…saying something like that…well…every word is scrutinized and analyzed right! The way it is said, what is said…manner and tone etc…
C~A and Beast… No, I would not automatically have the same comment as Mrs Pastor did about Sandra.
I was just saying its easy to assume that a child has been abused before death at the hands of a pervert. Mrs Pastor went that route immediately.
Which, of course, makes me (us?) think maybe she knows something about hubby Pastor that no one else does. The police DID take his computer. That could hold plenty!
Who knows?
Thanks lorim 🙂
C~A ♥
♥♥♥
one each for caylee haleigh and sandra 🙁
I knew this was coming………..
Source: Judge Filed Complaint Against Casey’s Attorney
Posted: 4:44 pm EDT April 8, 2009Updated: 6:13 pm EDT April 8, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — Jose Baez has been investigated by the Florida Bar before, but now sources tell Eyewitness News it’s the judge in the case against Casey that’s filed a complaint against Casey Anthony’s own attorney.
Eyewitness News has learned Circuit Judge Stan Strickland is one of two people who have filed new complaints against Jose Baez. The Florida Bar says both investigations involve Baez’s former private eye, Dominic Casey. He’s the guy who was at the remains scene a month before detectives found Caylee.
VIDEO REPORT: Judge Files Complaint
LEGAL ANALYST: Bill Sheaffer On Judge Complaint
It’s very rare for a judge to file a complaint like this, but all judges are obligated as attorneys to report possible violations.
There’s speculation the complaints involve the private eye’s claim he was told not to call 911 if he found Caylee’s body. But, shocking as it might be, WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer says calling 911 could’ve gotten Casey Anthony’s defense team in trouble.
Circuit Judge Stan Strickland would not talk to Eyewitness News about his Bar complaint against defense attorney Jose Baez. Sheaffer, who served on a Bar grievance committee, told Eyewitness News the complaint would not automatically disqualify Strickland from the case.
Casey Anthony would have to make a strong claim that it jeopardizes her right to a fair trial, but Sheaffer wouldn’t advise it.
“Casey Anthony should think long and hard before she files a motion to recuse Judge Strickland from this case because there are a lot of other judges out there that are less tolerant and patient with her attorney than Judge Strickland has been,” Sheaffer said.
Dominic Casey told detectives he would’ve called 911 if he had found Caylee in November, but also that he was told not to call 911 by someone he apparently identified during an interview, which Judge Strickland sealed because it divulged defense secrets.
Sheaffer says no one is legally obligated to call 911 after finding a body and Casey’s defense team would be legally obligated not to if it would incriminate her.
“He is prohibited by the rules of ethics from ever divulging that information,” Sheaffer said.
Sheaffer said it would cost Baez his license and, for the justice system to work, it has to be that way.
“A client must know that there is one person that they can tell the truth to,” Sheaffer explained.
Sheaffer believes the judge’s complaint involves more than a defense instruction to Dominic Casey not to call 911. He says judges usually handle trivial issues with attorneys by holding contempt of court hearings in their own courtrooms.
But Jose Baez isn’t alone. Eyewitness News also confirmed Wednesday that another lawyer wrapped up in the case is under investigation by the Florida Bar.
Brad Conway is the lawyer representing George and Cindy Anthony. Eyewitness News has learned Brad Conway was with Dominic Casey when Dominic Casey gave investigators information that Judge Strickland later determined was privileged to the defense. Eyewitness News is still working to find out the exact complaint in Conway’s investigation.
WOW Paw!!! That is huge!!!!!
Can I hear a drum roll Please!
I knew it was coming sooner or later. Strickland has tried to be nice for too long. And they are right. Other Judges wouldn’t let it go this long. So Baezhole,Conman,And that other attorney from California are all under investigation and in some kind of trouble. And Linda Baden has pillow talks with her husband. I hope that this screws Casey so bad, she’ll be put where she belongs, and has a public defender and they find out where the money is coming from for her dream team.
Paw – I hope this opens up the can on worm once and for all and exposes EVERYONE involved in this conspiracy!!!
Lorim, I honestly think it will. I really think we will find out everything now. And it’s about damn time.
Lorim and Paw….Starting with Cindy, Geo. and Leeboy. Start from the ground and work up!!
I have a feeling that real soon our jaws are going to drop with some REAL BOMBSHELLS.
Bombs YO!
Drum drum drum rolll….!!! 😛
I also don’t think the prosecution will get into trouble for the audio tapes that were released. Baezhole only stated video tapes, NOT audio tapes. Also I think he screwed up on his motion again about it too. I also don’t think it will hurt the prosecution either.
Strickland has finally had enough of the dream team’s BS.
I gotta do my roast darned it!
Paw…I just read that at CayleeDaily and was coming to post it myself. Whatever this is, is very big. I’ve NEVER heard of a sitting judge in a case filing a complaint against an attorney for one side like this.
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Sheaffer believes the judge’s complaint involves more than a defense instruction to Dominic Casey not to call 911. He says judges usually handle trivial issues with attorneys by holding contempt of court hearings in their own courtrooms.
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I also believe there’s more to this than Domonic’s statement. Apparantly what we’ve all been saying about this idiot Baez is coming to fruition. It could be anthing from Baez’s relationship with his client to matters involving money.
I think it’s also sweet that the A’s guy in the wheelchair is caught up in this too.
Sometimes all you go to do is just let the legal system work.
1 thing that the dream team has failed to realize….SUNSHINE LAWS IN FLORIDA,,,, HELLOOOOOOO IDIOTS LMAO!!!
Paw…I just got chills!!!! Hallelujah I pray this is the beginning of the end and Justice is served!
Judge Strickland ♫ ROCKS ♫ 😀
Why do you think the Judge and The State made sure Casey was in that courtroom and made you say things under oath. She can’t ever call a mistrial now lmao.
you=her, was a typo sorry lol
The dream team fell right into the Judge’s and State’s hands. WooHoo. Baezhole is done, Casey is done, bye bye dream team….
I bet ya Dominic traded information to save his own azz. Like, um, I know where they are getting the money, And Casey told us she did kill Caylee and so on and so forth.
PICKLES….WAIT..COME BACK!!! JVM IS ON HERE! REMEMBER THEY’RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HALEIGH!! PICKLES…TURN THE OVEN OFF. PICKLES, YA HEAR ME!! I’M SCREAMING AT YOU! JVM, JVM, JVM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU’RE GONNA MISS IT!
Oh well, I tried…..
I’m not finished catch-up reading – you guys have talked alot today – all good!
Just popped in to say GO LEXIE & LIZZY’S PAPA – We are proud of you!!!
dream team? more like Freak show!
LMAO…No wonder hoser has been so quiet this week!!!!
JVM is where?
I’ll be back after JVM and NG. I gotta go into the other room to watch it. Grrrrrr lol.
If I were big Linda Baden…I would run for the hills!
MORE complaints against BOZO? My, my, my.
Where there’s SMOKE there’s FIRE I guess.
Just a question of time BOZO. That’s obvious and expected. He was third from the bottom of his class – St. Thomas Law School? Wonder what their ranking is.
Maybe he could share a cell with his “lady” love. They could both be watched from the inside “station” only 5′ away.
They would both need protection from the MASSES (inmates)? ho ho.
On tv Beast. She will be talking about the haleigh case and Pickles WANTED TO SEE IT!!!!!!!
Guess I’ll have to open my window and SCREAM from KY to OR. !!!!
PICKLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is pickles wasting the HLN channel? I’m here and would love to watch…WHERE DO I COMPLAIN? 😉
If a judge files a complaint…IT ISN’T GONNA BE PRETTY!
STRICKLAND ROCKS! bWOOp bwOOP !!!! YES!
Paw – I bet you’re right! I bet that Dominic gave up the goods on all that are involved to save his own skin and that’s why he got himself a lawyer!!!!!!!! I just can’t wait to see Hoser disbarred!!!!!!!!!!
Sandra’s mother was rushed to the hospital when she found out her daughter was dead. THERE’S a real, honest mother. So like Casey who freaked out when a BODY was found. Didn’t say Caylee. That came a week later I think.
RAD KIDS they just said on Jane VM. Take your kids there to empower them?
YUP YUP YUP….Dom evaded the depo…got lawyered up and there has been some behind the scenes meetings…dom is singing like a canary!
4:26 JULES
ROFL
NO NO, no cookie, you are more like 36.
ROFL
maybe dom is gonna be the HERO in this in the end! He has worked for bozo and the ants..he was the one on the phone in the woods…he is the one who skipped out on a depo…and now this? I hope he blabbed everything gawd damn thing he knows and the whole f’ing ant family will be cell mates!
BEAST you can’t get it. Same TV chn. as Nancy. Head line news. HLN.
I feel so badly about that … DARN! 🙁
LOL…C~A, I was just thinking the same exact thing…sitting here with thoughts of ♥’s for the Dom’ster…pretty ironic when moments ago he was in the skank ratings with all the others! He is still a skank, but maybe there’s hope for him if he truly comes clean and squeals like a greased pig with the ants chasing him all over the woods with a poker! lol
Lorim – Now what? Strickland has sealed the identity of person who talked to Dominic because it would divulge defense secrets.
NG once said you don’t have to report the whereabouts of a dead body. I would love to have a lawyer on hand to answer some pertinent questions about chain of knowledge, etc.
THIS SOUNDS LIKE ONE FUG MESS!
If Strickland can’t divulge a lot of facts, guess we will just have to do a head count at the motions and see who is missing (bozo)
see now I am getting paranoid. Our 15 yr old has been gone since 4:30. To the Public Library to use comouter there. I just called and hes not there now.
Did I miss it I was doin muh dishes. 🙁
I was the 10th person to sign that petition! !!
Pickles….What good is it for me to be your secretary and send you the memo about JVM discussing Haleigh tonight?????
YOU GOTTA READ THE MEMO’S!!!!! 🙂
Is he in self defense….My parents made my little bro take Taekwondo…and now he is a can of whoop azz waiting to explode if someone tries to hurt him….he was taught respect ect all of it….Man I feel sorry for anyone who tries to perv out on him or harm him cus he’s 16 now and whips azz!
Casey Anthony court date set over video reaction to when Caylee’s body was found
6:05 PM EDT, April 8, 2009
Casey Anthony has another court date — May 7.
Orange Circuit Judge Stan Strickland will hear arguments from her attorney, Jose Baez, on why the state should not release a video of Casey Anthony’s reaction the day she learned a child’s remains were found near her home.
Casey Anthony was taken to the jail clinic where she saw news reports of the discovery. She collapsed into a chair and appeared to hyperventilate, according to taped interview with a corrections officer.
Baez also wants the judge to stop the state from releasing any videos, audiotapes and interviews with corrections officers who may have heard any conversations between Baez and Casey Anthony.
Earlier this week, the State Attorney’s Office mistakenly released two taped interviews of two corrections officers who described Casey Anthony’s reaction on Dec. 11.
Wonder if Hose-head will still be with the dream team?
Pickles – while everyone is watching JVM, first off – good article. Secondly, Haleigh seems to be the happiest child I have ever seen. She seems almost bursting with smile. Especially, the eyes. It would be hard to believe this little girl lived in a world of sex, drugs, rock and roll.
??? Sure seems happy
Pickles..Ya the mystery #10 LOL
Capy ♥ Thank YOU I like this one too!
She does look happy each and every pic of her is beaming ear to ear smiles….If there was sex drugs and rock n roll I dont think it was around the children cus Haleigh is amazingly adorable…
Its not even on there is it….Geeez alls I said was that to hang them up by there weens till they fall off then dump em nekkid in the Bering Sea to fend for themselves with NO survival suits or Coasties to save them…Guaranteed DEATH! Televised/net access for them all to see there fate if they touch or harm a child.!♥
Pickles…Did you read my 6:06???
And my other posts to YOU!!!
JVM needs to shut up about Octo-mom lol I am so tired of it! 😆 I mean crap if you don’t like what she is doing for publicity and money don’t discuss her! Blam problem solved 😉 too bad she never listens to me every nite I yell no more octomom!
AHAHHA YES! Bozo the clown is going down! I knew that he was gonna ruffle Judge stricklands feathers with his outrageous dumb behavior..
gee these lawyers need to practice in a new state one without the sunshine laws.. lol
LMAO@Pickles….lol…
Butters♥ I will always love that I helped you pick your name!!
I signed I am 123 woot woot.
Beast you like that? Ya buddy!
I will cherish that forever I know tat sounds gay butt I will Butters took one for the team!! ♥
Capy I wrote this one a long time ago! She is an adorable little girl tats for sure.
lol me too Picks 🙂 throwing me to watch the casey parade on t.v for you haha 😛
Butters – the trial is definitely set to take place in October – but it might be Bozo’s!!! :lol
YES Mb I know I missed it…DARNED IT…I was doing dishes..THANK YOU for all your help I really wanted to see that one too! 🙁
baez is really pulling out all the stops with this……I hope that they can fry him without jepordizing her trial/case./
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I DID IT!!!! ♥ 😆
😆 Ahaha Bozo is totally screwed..
NG said that bio dad might finally be identified??
Are you serious they are pursuing finding the bio dad for Caylee….RIGHT ON!!! ♥
I refuse to believe in this day of advanced technology that L.E. doesn’t ALREADY know who Dominic was talking to when he was in the woods searching. It’s just too easy to get that type of information from the wireless carrier.
With that in mind, I don’t think Strickland has sealed the idenity of the person he was talking to. I think L.E. already knows who that person is. This is something else.
I don’t know what Strickland’s complaint to the Bar is, but clearly it will have a significant impact on this case.
Hang Bozo by his ween, that’ll really get to M 🙂
…. and by accusing Jesse Grund of drowning Caylee, might have unwittingly revealed how she did it.
Casey might have been faking the hyperventilating at jail while listening to discovery of child’s body on Suburban, because she was listening to it in her cell on her radio.
You know all killers get caught and eventually they will slip up and she obviously might of by accusing Jesse of drowning Caylee.
What I thought they took her to the nurses station and let her watch it on television…..
Is she really accusing Jesse of drowning Caylee in the pool….so she drowned the baby? Or is it that the skeletalized bone marrow held the key to the poison in her system was it pool chemicals?
Capy..Why would she do that?
So Caylee died by drowning…I dont think thats how she killed her….there must be poison in the bones…the toxicology.
Yeah I do think she did poison Caylee BUT..
Remember the ladder being on the side of the pool and not put away? I think she was trying to build a good story against Jesse..
Ya that could be it I always thought that was cindy trying to get her to admit to an accident and get a lighter sentance.
Butters – why would she do what? Fake hyperventilating? because she’s a lying a.h. who likes attention
Pickles – I’m only giving you a synopsis of what Nancy Grace is saying. Nancy posed it as a question, “could this be …. ”
NG hinted we might find out that M planted something at Jesse’s to frame him.
Mark Klaas ♥ said he thinks everyone on the Ants side is lying and being underhanded.
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SLAP CHOP YO! Stupid b! prostitute!
Mark Klaas is a smart and good man.
Oh I know she would fake hyperventilate to show some sort of “omg thats my daughter oh no I am so sad and heart broken my baby”
Dumb witch…
She planted something at Jesse Grunds to frame him…OMG this is huge obviously LE is onto it right they know better….they have been setting this up for some time cindy george and kcee and lee Jesse is going to be there patsy….all so they can rake in the dough! FUGG them it aint going to work.
The only reason she hyperventilated is cus she was certain the body was going to be moved.
LOL Picks it made me laugh cuz I made a sham-pow joke to my hubby then came on to see you guys all making the same joke 😛
I saw the sham wow at walgreens on sale and I made a joke, sure the peeps at walgreens thought I was real special 😛 lol
nope she didn’t drown her….she is always trying to be one step ahead of everyone…the squirrel story to cover up the decomp…it’s a set up..the reaction to the body being found…set up…oh my poor baby…she is a chamelion and tries to stay one step ahead even if it’s totally transparent…( the universal lie)
She is way more sinister and evil then that! She was possibly trying to make it look like an accident with the pool…for herself..changed her mind…and thought it would be better if she told spindy and gee that she doesn’t trust jesse…and try to cast doubt and confusion on everything and away from her…which she was never able to accomplish…cause in reality…she is an idiot!
Doesn’t look past her own nose…fly’s by the seat of her pants…jesse wasn’t even in her life at that point…no proof he was anywhere near them…if it was fact..she would have been screamin it from the roof tops…but she has said nothing…quite…silent…scheming…GUILTY. iT’S all coming unravelled now..
Slap CHOP for all them stupid B! prostitute needs…Space goes nutz on that one….man gets all into it…ahahahaha… 😛
I too dont stinks she drowned her..I stinks she poisoned her with pool chemicals and maybe the toxicology on the hair and skeletalized bone marrow confirmed the poisoning. Or now she is trying to cover the poisoning with a drowning cus of the types of chemicals in Caylee’s hair and bones.
PIcks …do you think that bozo is not screamin for the toxi tests cause he knows what it contains and doesn’t want it released in the sunshine!
cause once he gets the results…the state get’s to release it to the public!
Very well could be cus them toxi tests are going to hold the keys to what killed Caylee for sure and I aint heard boo about it from that fat whiney pig like everything else.!
HE DOESN’T WANT THEM! THAT WILL COMPLICATE HIS CASE(Y) 😉
Bozo is roasting like a pig over a fire right now and hopefully get the boot and no mooolah for the ants or m!
Pickles – you know how NG always drops bombs before she gets to story. I gotta quit relaying those to you, she just likes to sensationalize. That’s okay I still love NG ♥
On July 1 Casey called Jesse and wanted to know if she could come to his apt and take a shower because her bf was out of town. Mr. Grund (father) thought it was funny because she arrived spic and span. She went into bathroom, showered and left door open. Jesse came out and him & dad discussed this was odd. Mr. Grund was afraid she might be there to take something as a plant. (Caylee was not with her – surprise)
Same when she called Jesse to help her with gas cans at Amscot. Mr. Grund thought M wanted Jesse’s fingerprints on her car.
Mr. Grund has PI’s on the case and there is probably a lot going on bringing up Jesse’s name in connection with the murder. He actually said they fear a set up for Jesse, for himself and Mrs. Grund!!!!
That skank, life-ruining, biotch. Nothing and no one is sacred to her.
I hope dom has sung like a spring bird and is gonna drown the whole damn lot of em’!
I was about to write the same Capy 😉 you saved me from a lengthy detail of that.
NG does sensationalize but meh every one on the news does.
On July 1 Casey called Jesse and wanted to know if she could come to his apt and take a shower because her bf was out of town.
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uhm..ya that’s odd…you have a house kc! Go home and take a shower…wonder where she told them caylee was that time..oH let me guess…AT A WEEKEND PASS AT DISNEY! FUGGIN KNT
Thank GOD…bozo didn’t ask for a speedy trial..the truth is coming out…caylee is speaking really loud…
C~A – Amen to that! Cayless sure is speaking out loud and clear, Hallelujah!
I keep seeing that picture of Strickland with his grey hair and fingers at his temples. “I see stupid people, they’re everywhere”
C~A – This was on July 1, so she couldn’t go home, if she ran into her mom, she would have had to explain (my opinion), where Caylee was and maybe her ‘work’ schedule.
Does any expect us to explain this whacko’s actions??? Our deepest thoughts are not as screwed up and evil and her public/everyday actions/words.
Mark Klaas ♥ said it was absolutely disgusting to tell someone not to report if finding Caylee’s body. He thought it was a moral, legal obligation. Mr Klaas: don’t try to figure them out, you are NOT a pig, doo-doo-head.
I hope Jose Baez knows how mortifying it is to have a judge file charges against him. Hoser…YOU ARE SUCH A PUTZ!
I love my hubby! 😉 So true… Poor Strickland!
Best Beast 7:37 I LOVE IT! THAT’S A GOOD ONE! 😆
capy – I know why she didn’t go home…I’m speaking from the stand point of the suspicious grund men! They had good reason to see that it was weird!
Hi Dak 🙂
C~A – she can’t fool anyone (who is sane).
Where IS Dak?
capy – Dak is here …doo do doo do!
Did all of you hear Jesse Grund’s father talking about an organized plan where internet blog sites were visited by members sympathetic to the A’s trying to create reasonable doubt ??
Well friends, as what I believe is probably the #1 site critical to the entire Anthony family, I’m certain BNN has gotten it’s share. Where do you think this morning’s post at 5:14 a.m. from Single Mom came from??? Read it and then I refer you to my post at 9:07 a.m………..
Lexie and Lissy’s Papa said,in April 8th, 2009 at 9:07 am You know, a couple of weeks ago I wrote a post about what I believe is an orchestrated plan to influence public opinion in regards to the Anthony’s;”the Anthony’s need time to grieve”, poor George’s “sucide attempt”, “we’re going to devote our lives to finding missing children”, hire an attorney in a wheelchair, etc..
After reading Single Mom’s driveby post, I’m convinced of it. This post was well written and articulate in it’s delivery. It reminds me of an attorney’s closing argument before a jury. There’s no way I believe she just happened by this blog at 5:14 this morning and said “hey, I believe I’ll share a few thoughts with these folks and then dissapear”.
BULLS**T
I think the Anthony camp is desperately trying to change our perception of them to futher profit from the situation. They are apparantly either extremely egotistical or extremely desperate. Or Both
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Jesse Grund’s father said what myself and other’s here already knew.
These people need to understand, we are intelligent, articulate people who genuinely care about what’s happening to children exerywhere. They’re not even remotely capable of changing our mind.
LLP, When I heard Jesse’s father say that, I now know for sure that all the drive-by’s we’ve had, they are from the group he is speaking of. It also makes a lot of sense now of why we get those drive-by’s. At the same time, The drive-by’s are probably realizing real fast that they can’t convince us that Casey is innocent. She has blood on her hands and we all know it. CASEY MURDERED CAYLEE PERIOD!!!
C~A…Dak…Here??
What cha smokin hun??
I fell asleep on the sofa, watching Nancy G.
Woke up and did hear some things. I know C~A and other can’t get HLN. I will try …
Heard Jesse’s father on there. Said this is this group is helping the Defense team trying to get evidence, setting up Jesse, himself and possibly his wife too for Caylee’s murder. They are try to set up reasonable doubt for maggot. They are working on it DAILY he said … on the net somehow.
maggot asked Jesse to bring her a gas can. This was 2 days after it was sitting in it’s resting place. She called him. IT didn’t need a gas can, but wanted his FINGER PRINTS on the car, etc. etc.
They said G also warned Jesse that something was wrong with maggot, some mental things. Said Jesse was a nice guy, and G felt bad. Warned him.
maggot had a jail radio in her “room” so she knew in advance about the discovery of a “body” before taken out. With all her research, who knows if she pulled the “classic panic attack” hyperventaliting. BUT a Dr. said “Hyperventilating is from FEAR … not the normal reaction to a death!” Fear – ah… CAUGHT? BUSTED?? EVIDENCE on Caylee? She didn’t know what state of decomposition she was in – I guess. It could have been real, or “faked” from her research.
Sandra .. suitcase. Many stories floating around on that one. Was stolen from a house, taken to the Church for some “Sale”, taken from the Church, etc.
I was asleep during part but will watch the re-run. IF I can stay up.
🙂
Real newsy tonight on JVM and NG. I only heard about half tho. Really bad earache. Clogged up and aching. Head feels like a football. Remember that feeling C~A???
Ant. team working hard to throw Jesse under the bus. Richard Grund said (somebody) has been
Oh, okay. Let me get out my eraser. Erase Zenaida Gonzales (rub rub rub), write in “one of the Grunds”.
OKAY, I’m up to speed now.
Uh Oh…Hit a button. Sorry. Anyway R. Grund said somebody ? has been implicating them since last JULY!! It’s daily he said.
Won’t work!!
mb – I thought I was getting ear infection. Dr. Pickles told me to eat 6 cloves of crushed raw garlic with plenty of water. (this is in lieu of taking amoxocillan, which has plenty of side effects)
I can’t quite follow the Drs. orders, but I am putting raw garlic on hb pattie between bun! Don’t think it was ear infection afterall – that was the days I had to hear a lot of monster-skanks voice.
Get well MB ♥
Lexie and Lissy’s Papa
Didn’t see your wonderful post. First of all, thank you for doing great research on the duct tape for this blog and Caylee.
Nancy G. are they the Blogs? Jesse’s father said “No”.
I too wondered what this sudden looney blitz was. Seemed organized. Either one person kept coming back with different names, or different people. So obvious… transparent, aren’t they? Ha trying to plant reasonable doubt – here? What’s with THEIR brain – or lack thereof? They can’t file/understand/digest authentic strong, real forensic data?
Where would these morons come from … some tree? They believe in IT’S innocence with all her very strange abnormal responses to everything, time line, Prosecution’s strong building blocks. Please don’t tell me, they are paid Drone Workers … paid by Caylee, via Spindy?
CAPY sorry I missed yours too. I didn’t have to do this then… at all. Good synopis from many of you, for those who can’t get it. I should have read first. Wash rushing… afraid I wouldforget.
Sorry guys. NEXT time I’ll read first. 🙁
Thanks Capy. Hmmmm..I don’t think I can do the 6 cloves of garlic thing. That would bring on a new sickness…..throwing up.
I’ve got eardrops and a heating pad. I’m good to go!!
capy – I was thinking the same thing when i read your post…HOW MANY DIFFERENT WAYS CAN SHE SPELL OUT GUILTY? All the stupid…”scenarios” and scripts…UGH!
I have a question about the duct tape research I missed. In a nutshell, what was discovered?
I have a role of duct tape in front of me and you would not believe all the dirt and hair and everything on the sides of it.
Just wondering if anyone saw my 4:19 post ❓
MB – I hope your ear will flock off and leave ya alone! Earaches are so painful. Poor dear! Maybe pickles gal will blow some of her “poo magic” into your ear and make it all better!
The greatest pain reliever is warm, moist heat around the ear. A warm compress-such as a towel rung out in hot water and pressed against the ear-brings the most immediate relief.
After you take a shower or bath; blow dry your ears instead of rubbing them. Soothe the ear with the warm setting of a hairdryer.
Puncture a piece of garlic and pour the juice in the ear.
Paw – Henkel duct tape was found on Caylee’s skull and on a gas can found at the Anthony’s residence. Most of us here on BNN have never seen duct tape like that with the Henkel logo imprinted all over it. But Hosehead says it is the most widely know duct tape in the county.
Garlic being a natural antibiotic will help to take the pain away.
Put some mineral oil (oil derived from a mineral source, such as petroleum, because it is inexpensive and rarely causes allergic reactions) in your ear before going in the water. Wear earplugs while swimming and avoid swimming in dirty waters.
Warm few drops of olive oil in a spoon. Using the dropper, put 2-3 drops in each ear after the oil has cooled down.
This will help relieve pain.
Excessive earwax can also cause hearing problems and aches. Put a capful of hydrogen peroxide in each ear, let it set for a minute or two, and then let it drain out. One drop of alcohol after bathing can also prevent excessive earwax.
A hot water bottle wrapped in a towel also makes a comforting pillow for an aching ear.
Press a dual-purpose first-aid gel pack that you can warm up in hot water or the microwave on your ear.
It will make you feel better.
Warm up an oven-safe plate, wrap it in a towel, and rest your aching ear right on it. The plate should be warm and comforting, not hot,
Warm mineral oil may soothe a sore ear. Use a dropper to drip the oil in and gently pull the outside of the ear to make sure it goes down.
If wind bothers your aching ears, wear a scarf when you’re outside, or put cotton in the opening of the ear, but avoid pushing the cotton down from where you can not retrieve it with your fingers.
If your ears hurt when the pressure changes, especially during descent and landing during an airplane flight, chew gum or suck on candy.
The chewing or sucking will activate the muscles that send air to your inner ears, when you hear your ears “pop,” you’ll feel better.
If chewing doesn’t work, close your mouth, relax your cheek muscles, hold your nose and blow one nostril at a time gently until you feel relief.
Bugged by a bug in your ear? Flood the ear till full of alcohol using the ear dropper to kill the bug, then gently fill the ear with water from an ear syringe.
Warning: The reader of this article should exercise all precautionary measures while following instructions on the home remedies from this article. Avoid using any of these products if you are allergic to it. The responsibility lies with the reader and not with the site or the writer.
Heart – the more reporting, the better. We each add facts that are sometimes overlooked. It is hard to do our ‘court reporting’ and watch NG. Pickles needs to read NG transcript – ha. Where are you Pickles? Eating abused roast??
LEXIE & LIZZY’S PAPA: Thanks for your research. If you find something that can dispute Bozo’s comment that Henkel duct tape is common, can you send an e-mail to Orlando LE or head Prosecutor?? Maybe they know, maybe not. I know they will take yours serious.
Awhile back Pickles sent e-mail to LE down in Putnam County about an idea she had.
My duct tape says Nashua Tape 300. It even has a website on it. and an address.
Picture from discovery of duct tape on the gas can at the ants home.
wftv.com/slideshow/news/19105250/detail.html
Scroll the bar to tank pic.
Hmmm..My duct tape says Trojan
LOL…Beast….Run for the hills C~A!!!!! Ouch!
MB – Dont’ be afraid of putting alcohol in your ear per C~A’s article. When I was teenager I had bad ear infection and he put alcohol in my ear (after I fought him tooth and nail and he practically had to hold me down). It does not hurt at all.
Beast….you probably only paid 75 cents in the
restroom for yours !!!
Well, this duct tape is sold at wal-mart. But if the tape matches what’s on the can and what was around the skull, then she’s screwed. Even if it’s the tape that she basically stole from Amy, she’s screwed.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://stevefritz.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ef6ae5c88330112794dd24428a4-pi&imgrefurl=http://www.2sustain.com/2009/03/-henkel-receives-sustainability-award-at-walmart-supplier-summit.html&usg=__hd-76UG30ltpfHPde3VVMnLGH_8=&h=332&w=500&sz=183&hl=en&start=6&sig2=Wt1SjSEMUqnbZvJTcn9HDg&um=1&tbnid=L2yaWujMHaxBVM:&tbnh=86&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHenkel%2Bduct%2Btape%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&ei=1FLdSebvI8PVlQeihej7DQ
Well, this duct tape is sold at wal-mart. But if the tape matches what’s on the can and what was around the skull, then she’s screwed. Even if it’s the tape that she basically stole from Amy, she’s screwed.
Thanks C~A. My son told me to drop warm urine in my ear!! Says it’s the best thing for an earache. Swears it’s true!!
I think I’ll try the moist heat you suggested!!
Don’t know if I’ve got garlic in the fridge or not. Probably do…..
Does Baezhole not realize they can trace that tape all the way back to it’s birth if they wanted to. They can also track it back to who bought it and when.
lol Papa..A loonie here in Canada. Why you think I got 2 babies!
sorry for the over kill but i hope one of these things will help your ear MB ♥
PAW – I hope there is something on the duct tape that was on Caylee’s face (skull now). The only thing they released weeks ago was that CG&L’s fingerprints were not on the tape.
Why didn’t they mention M ??? of course, Padilla piped up on NG and said her fingerprints were on the tape. NG swayed away from comment and no more mention.
That tell me that it was the duct tape that Casey borrowed from Amy and used it. She never returned it back to Amy.
WOW C~A…Such great suggestions!! Thanks!!!! I need to copy that (by hand…can’t copy and paste cause I’m stupid), and put in in my medical book!
Didn’t mention someone peeing in my ear!! 🙂
I hope they find dog hair on it from Cindy’s dog and their carpet hairs. I’m sure they did. plus carpet hairs from the trunk.
BEAST!!!! 8:41 – You are back to being Beast! ROFLMAO 😆
Capy..never stopped 😎 I just act more normal sometimes :wicked:
👿
yeah thats it
that means IM wicked 👿 WHooT
Hence the name BEAST!!!
PAW – She borrowed tape from Amy for the “No Clothes Party” to secure the flag. Maybe she put that tape on the gas can too.
When I saw the tape on the gas can, I had to think that was a good idea. My gas can always leaks few drops when I pour it into lawn mower, no matter how hard I screw the nozzle back on. Is that the reason the tape was on their gas can?
The only thing they released weeks ago was that CG&L’s fingerprints were not on the tape.
Why didn’t they mention M ???
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I thought that was very clever of Le to word it that way…that leaves the defense thinkin maybe she left prints….OH SHITT…HOW DO WE SPLAIN THAT? LMAO
I hope they do have a print though!
The tests we haven’t heard results of…the toxi on the hair and bones..the stain…I hope that le is keepin the bombs as long as they can…so the defense is going one direction with their “pathetic story” and last minute…the bomb hits them and they have evidence that blows what they have been workin on for months RIGHT OUTTA THE COURT-VROOOOOOOM!
GONE…bye bye…YOUR LIES ARE EXPOSED!
PAW….the only point I’m looking into on the duct tape is from what I saw in the pictures of the gas can released in this newest batch of discovery. L.E. has said the tape on the baby’s skull matched the tape on the gas can.
I’ve never seen duct tape with the company logo, etc. on the face of the tape. I’m looking into it.
Check my posts from 12:43, 4:49, and 5:03. They tell what I’m doing to find out about that tape.
for those of you that dont know. Probly all of you here. I am not working due to back injury 5 years ago…had surgery then but the disc in my back has herniated again AND I have discs in my lower neck bulging as well. So Im pretty much medicated all the time. C~A is awesome in her support for me. But its tough. The pain never, really, evr, goes away. Thats why I have time to put into this important issue. ok done sharing 😳
BEAST did you son get back yet??
Ha ha ha ha just read about your “duct tape”. ROFL.
I guess he’s back or you wouldn’t be kidding around… whew!
the tape on the gas can is prob. yet another way to try to tie yet another unsuspecting victim to the crime…she was plannning…planning…pre-meditating for a long time…I’d like to give that bvitch a labotomy with my own two hands…
She has been working on planting doubt for months…jesse’s prints on the car…amy’s duct tape possibly on the gas can ties her to the crime…gawd…it’s all so mind warping isn’t it…
Heart yes.. I know its silly to be worried about a 15 yr old at 7:30 at night. I have to take a step back from all of this and be reasonable
Beast – My adult stepson had bulging disc, surgery, bulged on the other side, surgery again. You are right it is excrutiating pain that NEVER stops.
I’m sorry, I’ll say a prayer, but I’d better change your name to Best, when I talk to Him about you! 🙂
A point to ponder. What if M had asked Jessie to tear of a piece of duct tape for her for the gas can. And then used that piece of tape on caylees mouth?
C!A – Get my eraser out again (rub rub rub) – Amy Huizinga’s tape – SHE DID IT!
Beast, Oh I’m so sorry to hear about your back. I have some friends that have the same problem and I know it’s horrible, horrible!!
Are you on workmans comp. or disability? I don’t know how that works in Canada.
Are you going to have more surgery??
Questions..questions!
Capy yes I got “lucky” with murphys law and both lower and upper discs are bulging backwards, pinching my sciatic nerve against my spine. SO I get the pain in my leg, and wrist. %*$&%*$ oh well
Beast – You’re a good daddy, get used to the worry…Mine are 25 and 27 and you never stop worrying about them. They are lucky to have you and C~A!
mb on WSIB it is a workers safety insurance board. They are threastening to cut me off because I left that job of my own accord.. Now I have to try and go back 5 yrs to get records and reports and exams to prove I could not work
mb. At last exam. Surgery was ruled out as an option. Dont know what future holds yet
Beast….I’m curious whay that gas can even has a piece of duct tape on it. I explained last night that I use duct tape kind of like a “post it note” in my construction business and I have cans with tape on them. In fact there’s 3 of them in my shop, all with a piece of duct tape on them with what’s in the can written on the tape with a Sharpie….gas mixed with oil for chain saws, gasoline, and diesel fuel. That’s why I noticed this tape in the first place. With all this printed matter on the face of it, I wouldn’t be able to write on it.
But why is that tape on the A’s can ???
dont want to get into that discussion here. 🙂 But there is a complete story about this on my blog..So to keep the focus on caylee, and haleigh, and Sandra..Id love to chat about this there. Not here. 🙂
How many more Ringling Brothers are going to show up at the circus before the trial in approx. 6 months? We have had one juggling act after another.
OK, I want a hotdog, peanuts, popcorn and a beer.
Papa.. cans have 2 holes..1 to pour and the other for air relief, so the gas will pour freely and not gush. The duct tape was probly used because one of the covers was lost
the relief cover was lost
L&L’s PAPA; I wrote this at 9:02 —
When I saw the tape on the gas can, I had to think that was a good idea. My gas can always leaks few drops when I pour it into lawn mower, no matter how hard I screw the nozzle back on. Is that the reason the tape was on their gas can?
Beast…if that’s the case, then the tape would have had to be put there my G. Kcee would have no idea or reason to add the tape to the can. Which brings the tape back to the Ants home, and not Amy.
Beast – could be true about taping the air relief – but sure doesn’t sound safe. I am careful to keep both the openings secure. Don’t want fumes in the garage.
Just listened again to Grund on the NG rerun. He’s saying EXACTLY what I said this morning.
I knew there’s no way someone like that just shows up at 5:14 a.m. with that line of crap.
These egotistical, pretentious idiots actually think they can influence my thinking and yours.
I hold 3 college degrees and more professional licenses than they can likely count….I THINK FOR MYSELF.
Lorim..or m knew that because she kept running out of gas and realized it
BEST BEAST! YES!! Glad your boy is home. We must always watch our kids … always. Sickos are out there. I realize even a “safe neighborhood” isn’t safe, because SICKOS exist. He no doubt is handsome/beautiful like his parents.
BEAST … BIOFREEZE is great for pain! Comes in a spray or roll on. You can google it. It was sold to me from a Medical Supply Store. They said they use it. It’s the best thing we have … Beast. Cryotherapy – the cold method.
If you are looking for heat … I read the ingredients on an expensive pain killer tube, years ago. I thought, “I CAN DO THAT!” It was a cream base and cayenne pepper. So, you can buy a cheap cream, Nivea, etc. and put whatever amount of cayenne pepper you want in it. Custom made! 🙂 Mix each batch fresh, I do. That is second best tho, I think, to BIOFREEZE! When I got a cortisone shot the other day in my knee, they sprayed it first with something cold (I always look away from the action), and didn’t see what it was. That is to numb it for the big needle. I’ll bet it was Biofreeze. I have the roll on. Read the directions. Good luck!!
Sorry Papa – M holds 6 degrees “6 degrees of separation”.
Heart – I am going to copy your 9:35 post to my document file and run a copy. Never know when we’ll need it.
My husband and I used to use “Stop Pain” spray. It only did a fair job.
Thanks
LEXIE AND LISSY’S PAPA
DON’T TAKE your eyes off of them tomorrow, everywhere, especially at DisneyWorld.
LORIM is that you with your photo on the blogger radio page? Great looking blonde? We have some really pretty girls on this blog. I know of a few, C~A, PICKS, MB and that’s all I know, but really special!!!
GADS more P.T. now. UGH!
‘nite everyone xxx
She’s definitely got me there. Guess I have no chance.
Lots of good medical advice here tonight! 🙂
CAPY I meant to say how sorry I am about your step son. Poor guy. Tell him we care about him, on here.
I know about back trouble too. Wow – when you live many moons … you can become the walking wounded. ha ha.
Heart. this is the link to my blog story on this issue
http://djxtreme.wordpress.com/2009/04/07/a-call-for-help/
Just another open browser for you.
🙂 the pain and treatment issue is a complicated one. Cold works better than heat, but only somtimes
That is so sweet of you Heart♥ Nighy-night sleep tight! And make sure all your doors are locked!!!! ♥
I still think the Pastors wife made a big slip. Wouldnt be the first time husband and wife, upstanding people, have a dark side
I’m getting ready to go to bed now, got a long day ahead of me tomorrow.
Before I go, I want to express to each one of you my heartfelt thanks for being able to have conversations with people like all of you who care so deeply about a cause I’ve come to care about so much. I gain insight, to help me understand what is such an unimaginable situation in our society, from each one of you.
I am privileged to be among you.
Good Night All.
LL’s Papa – Good night – WE should be thanking YOU.
Papa…you are truly a unique,smart and loved figure here…I feel very privileged to know you! Good luck in your investigation tomorrow….be safe and have a good trip and some fun times with the kidos! Nighty Night from California!
Stay safe Papa
Papa – You my dear are a shining star! Lighting the way! I love your posts and am blessed to converse which such a caring loving intelligent people! So happy you finally joined us!
Morning all…going to see when the krugers are being deposed!
The day is finally here. C & G dpeo day. Should be interesting
They may want to start telling the truth. Otherwise they will be sitting with their daughter.
woohoo that would be a riot!~
Beast at 9:49 last night you said:
still think the Pastors wife made a big slip. Wouldnt be the first time husband and wife, upstanding people, have a dark side
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I’ve been browsing everywhere trying to find what you were talking about – I am lost – please show me the way 🙂
Capy its at kcra.com the article about Sandra
Good morning… I can’t watch videos at work… what was the slip up that she did???
Found it – Beast comment at 5:13 pm yesterday. I did a little word searching.
Well, today’s another day. A lot going on.
♫Good morning everyone♫ phew!..its really dusty & smelly wandering around the rabbit warrens between Oz and the US…forgot to turn left at April…took another wrong turn in March…finally found you in February. Need better signposting and GPS for the likes of us slowpokes here down-under.
Jules..you hit the nail on the head $.$. fits the ants to a “T”
L & L Papa..stay safe while you sleuth for the duct tape.
Beast I have signed the petition for Caylee’s Law which is run by the same organization..could you both hook up?????
Bill O’Reilly got Jessica’s law passed in almost all states…although this deals with the sentencing for chimos it is on the same vein…Beast why not email him..it would be awesome if he would help…we would get millions of signatures.
i don’t know… why do you kidnap someone? usually to do something bad to them… It happens so much that’s just what we expect to happen… Whatever happened to kidnapping a kid because you can’t have or lost your own and you want to love them???
Hello??
MB – Good morning!
here
3 posts from me not posting..????
Am I in moderation?? What does that mean?
morning mb
Jill.. I dont think the petitions are going after the same thing. But it never hurts to mention both, they are both good causes
Hi mb, capy and bmore {and anyone else}
I ♥ Judge Stan..hope he cooks Bozo’s goose.
The Masters {Golf} starts at 4:00am on TV so I’m off to bed…stay safe my friends from over the pond xxx
i hope it is the judge that filed the complaint… They said they can’t confirm yet… The guy on NG last nite was saying that’s we’re assuming it’s the judge and NG was like no it is… We don’t know for sure but i hope so!!!
i feel so sorry for Jesse and his family…
Beast – today is my mom’s birthday, she is 92. Years ago on this date is when all the statues were pulled down of Saddam Hussain. We watched TV all day that day and Mother said that was the best present she ever had!
Hope she gets another big present today. Could be anything … we’ve got so much going on. Baez, depos, something break in Sandra’s case, and let’s not forget Haleigh.
B-more – add to the list of names that we have given monster: two-faced, backstabber. No one is safe. She even said her brother tried to have sex with her. That is in a new article today on wesh.com.
Sad thing, it is going to take awhile for these people (like Jesse) for their lives to bounce back to normal.
when it was brought up in NG the other nite about Lee and the sex thing… NG said and you believe that? and laughed… She is an ongoing joke… Jesse’s dad brought up good points about the surprise interaction with M during that period… clean girl needing to use the shower when she could have taken one over amy’s where she was staying… something about the gas cans and using jesse’s vs. the ants and jesse said no we’re using yours… something like that… his dad believes that she was trying to plant evidence and get his prints on stuff…
So what was the slip up the pastor’s wife made? What did I miss?
Jules – see Beast’s post 5:13 pm yesterday.
she automatically said the sandra was abused and murdered… is it normal to just assume abuse?
Well… could be a slip-up or like us, we assume she was abused / molested. It’s rare someone would murder a child except for needing to dispose of the witness to the abuse. LE is saying the Pastor is not suspect…. not sure why they are taking all the stuff from their house then and it was THEIR suitcase that was used. LE made a statement that they are closing in and are just trying to build the best possible case they can so I think they know who did it….just trying not to tip their hand just yet as they gather additional proof. Want to make sure this creep fries!
amen!!!!
Jules, Are you sure it was their suitcase?? I thought I read that someone dropped it off at their place to be taken to the church for a rummage sale. I’m probably confused. 🙂 Could it be that someone saw it there in the driveway, grabbed it, and used it to put Sandra into it? OR the Lawless guy is in a heap of trouble!
Now, if we could JUST make some progress on Haleigh’s case. Maggot’s case is moving along…like the traveling circus it is….It appears Sandra’s case is on the fast track… but our poor Haleigh Bug seems all but forgotten… 😥
i know… how can the girl be plastered all over your TV show and then when things stall you don’t even mention her anymore? Her situation hasn’t changed…
Usually, I read all the posts from the last time I was on, but this time I did not, so if this is a repeat, my apologies:
Last night on NG, Jessie Grund’s dad was on. He said that he believes Jose will blame Jesse, himself, and Jesse’s mother for the death of Caylee by somehow conspiring and drowning her in the pool in the Ants’ back yard.
Then he said that to protect himself, he has hired a private investigator who has produced hundreds of pages of documentation on this. The PI is William Staubs…
Seem familiar? William Staubs = COBRA
Yet another eerie connection to Haleigh!!!
Good Morning everyone
Yeah, Spacely…I heard that on NG too. COBRA.
I hope this guy COBRA is on the up and up. Not another Padilla!
What do you think?
Good Morning Toughenough!
Spacely… Are there only three PI’s in the US? Casey, Hoover, and Cobra?
If Bozo is STUPID enough to try to frame Jesse and family, let him go for it. He’ll get laughed out of court. She KNEW there was a dead body in her car and tried to cover it up. Jesse LOVED Caylee. Maggot was the last person to see Caylee alive and SHE is the one who has told lie after lie. Let me guess, they’re going to say Jesse is a cross-dressing transvestite (sp?) who goes by the name Zanaida Gonzales AKA Zanny! Good GOD, has Bozo lost what little mind he had?
Spacely – were you the one that started the list few weeks ago about the coincidences between Haleigh case and Caylee case?
Yes, this is eerie.
This is just flat-out ridiculous. What could the Grund’s possibly gain by harming Caylee? Jose is stupid. Next to M, he is the biggest fug up.
good morning Tough… Space that is weird but if he’s local maybe not so much… he dug up that stuff on misty… i hope everyone involved that’s being accused by the Ants sues them like ZFG… Don’t drag me through the mud cause you’re a piece of crap!!!
Wow Capy, Happy Bday to your MOM!!!!
Actually, Pickles started the coincidence list…and at first I dismissed it because we are so involved with the Caylee case, everything seems connected to it. But I cannot deny the number of similarities, especially when two players are in both cases, G and COBRA.
COBRA is a PI, so to answer MB, no, he is not on the up and up. None of them are. Hoover is in it for personal gain, D Casey for personal gain and to get his rocks off with C, and COBRA is gaining tons of fame (and most likely business) from his involvement.
Last night on NG, she had a former police chief (who you would think would have decent morals and ethics) who is now a PI. He said he would not have called 911 if he had found the body and defended Jose and D Casey. This is a PI totally unconnected to the case, but his attitude shows you all these PIs are SH*T.
The Grund defense does not have to work or even be credible. It only has to create reasonable doubt. Like one of the jury members saying It’s not Jesse, but it could have been someone else based on this crap Jose is feeding us…
maggot or spindy ( can’t remember) even told in one of their interviews that jesse hadn’t taken care of caylee in a really long time!
Bozo must be pretty desperate for a defense if he’s going after Jesse (Mr. Clean Cut All American)…. I mean think about the comparison between he and Maggot…. Good Grief …. I can just hear Bozo…. “True, my client is a thieving, lying, backstabbing, ween sucking, pole humping, lap dancing, bisexual, child abusing, tramp ho who hated Caylee and wished she’d never been born and Mr. Jesse Grund is an honest, law-abiding, upstanding, God fearing, young man who loved Caylee with all his heart. HOWEVER, my client says Jesse did and so, jurors, it must be so! On my client’s word you MUST find Jesse guilty of this murder! Nevermind the crazy Zanny story….that was a lie. And forget that whole job thing at Universal….that was a lie. And forget that whole story about my client searching for Caylee for 31 days because that too, my friends, was a lie. And yes, she lied about her whereabouts, she lied and stole money from a lot of people, and yes, she does party just a WEE bit too much…even as her daughter was missing…. and yes she told a number of lies to LE, but THIS time, I SWEAR she is telling the truth and Mr. Grund must NOW pay the price for his evil deed! Your honor, the defense rests.” *the thunderous sound of laughter erupts in the courtroom*
Jules, that is funny, but sad because that seems to be the way Bozo is lining things up.
Are going to see the depos later today?
Jules…I LOVE reading your posts. You never seem to lack adjectives!!!!! 🙂
C~A… Hope so. Should be interesting. I just wish LE would do a doc dump that has something NEW for us to sink our teeth into. It just been the sameo sameo lately. What happened with the diary? Where are the reports on the stain in the trunk? What about all the evidence they took from the house? Tests on duct tape, the bag with the gatorade bottle and syringe, phone records for Casey (the PI), etc. Where is all this stuff? Were tests done on her hair/bones for Chloroform? Where are those test results? They just keep putting party pics out there which EVERYONE has seen a bazillion times. Where is the GOOD stuff? Do they HAVE any good stuff? 😯 I sure hope so!
Good Morning everyone! Happy Depo Day!!!
Thanks MB… Maggot makes the adjectives flow just like the lies from her mouth….
C~A WKMG promised complete coverage of depos today.
♥♥♥ LORIM ♥♥♥ Good mornin’ girl! We’re happily trashing Bozo this morning! Care to join in? 😆
Jules – that’ so true…there is alot of stuff we haven’t heard about yet! Big stuff! I feel they do have BIG EVIDENCE cause is there was nothing found…it would be in the documents dumps as stated with other testing etc…
NOTHING OF EVIDENTIARY VALUE WAS FOUND!
Morning l♥vies! ♥
MB – CAMERAS TOO?
(((((((((((PICKLES ♥))))))))))))))
Guys I can’t get video at work so PLEASE keep posting anything that is going on before, during and after the depos if there is video. Don’t leave me in the dark!
Hahaha!!!
Hoser is a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit! Hallelujah! Holy shit! Where’s the Tylenol?
Morning Pickly Poo! ♥
C~A – I hope you’re right. I hope they are holding back the big SHAM POW piece of evidence that is going to have Maggot begging for sedatives and will put Bozo in the hospital for a week!
ROFLMAO Lorim! That a girl! Get it ALL out! Let the LOVE flow for Bozo! 😆
I can’t wait to see that nard disbarred!
Bozo would have a better chance of convincing a jury that pigs fly on the second Tuesday of all Winter months than he’ll have trying to convince them of Maggot’s innocence! 😆
C~A No video. Only transcripts. I read that somewhere. Won’t be anything to get excited about anyway. Conway will be there and with every question directed to Cindy then George, Conway will say “I’ve advised my client not to answer that”!! Just like Lee’s lawyer did on some of the questions.
Lorim…Clark Griswalds quote!! Seems very fitting of Hosebag!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Woot woot, I have a job interview today, please keep me in your prayers, I’ve been unemployed since Sept.08
Way to go Lorim!
Hi Lorem – Good description of Hoser – Lets put that to music!
mb ♥ I love that quote….it is sooooo fitting here!!!!! 😆
I remember in one of the interviews Casey did with LE he went off record when they were asking him who he was talking to on the phone and who told him to go to the woods to search for Caylee’s body. I bet he DID tell LE that it was Bozo and that is the defense secret he divulged….that and the fact that Bozo told him not to call 911 if he DID find the body. I bet Casey loses his PI license (THANK GOD) and Bozo gets in some REALLY deep doo doo and HOPEFULLY disbarred!
Toughenough – Prayers go with you…Good luck!
Got fingers crossed for you Toughenough. I always enjoy your comments.
Toughenough…. Good Luck on your Job Interview! ♥♥♥ – Sending love and luck your way! Will talk to the Big Guy too and see if he can’t help you out! PRAYERS FOR TOUGHENOUGH!
Thanks, Lorim
Thank you all
Hey!!!!!!!!!! Some guy stole my Sham POW idea:
youtube.com/watch?v=-ZTTKC9ct5Y
There were 2 complaints filed against hose-wad. I wonder who the other was from besides Strickland??? hmmmmm…Maybe Ahston?
“I always believe everything my sister tells me”
(secret tape in Tony’s car) “I don’t know if my sister lies to make herself look better, or if she just lies to be lying”
Sorry Spacely… Youtube is a forbidden site here at work…. what was your idea… dare I ask? 😀
LMAO Spacely
Good Morning all
1.) In the April 20th issue of GLOBE (pp. 6-7) there is an article that suggests that Caylee’s bio dad was a surfer friend of Casey’s named Josh O’Barr who killed himself (shot humself in the head with a gun on a surfboard in 2006) because he had be suffered severe back injuries in a car accident and was in near constant pain. Went to same high school and had mutual friends although he was a few years older.
2.) On NG last nught – Jesse’s Grund’s dad said that “defense” bloggers were infiltrating the blogs tryng to create reasonable doubt by rsising questions about Jesse’s innocence. I think I have seen a few dart on and off this blog!
GOOD LUCK TOUGH…TIPS…
MIMICK THE BODY LANGUAGE OF THE INTERVIEWER EXCEPT IF THEY CROSS THEIR ARMS…DONT’T DO THAT
WEAR SOMETHING RED..IT’S A POWER COLOR
MAKE CONSTANT EYE CONTACT
♥
I’ve never seen anyone come in here and say “jesse” is guilty?
Well, the Ants are probably putting on the finishing touches to their lies by now, trying to get their stories straight, shoving 50 pieces of gum in their mouths, talking about the fishing trip they’re going to take after the depo, waiting on the limo to get there to take them to the courthouse, and Spindy is ranting that it better be a stretch limo, Geo is mailing off another $100 check for Maggot’s munchie money out of the Foundation account, and Conman is rehearsing his lines….”I have advised my clients not to answer that question, I have advised my clients not to answer that question, I have advised my clients not to answer ANY question and if they did it would be a lie anyway..”
Jo – wow (#1)
jesse is the furthest person of interest…
JESSE GRUND IS NOT A MURDERER…
CASEY ANTHONY IS!!!! CASEY MURDERED HER CHILD.
No, not yet, but there was someone yesterday who suggested we had made our minds up about Casey without nowing all the facts, someone named Singlemomsince 1989 or somethig like that…
Tough…Another tip to add to C~A’s
Have a stiff drink before interview. Calm those nerves! LOL
kidding, of course….
Jules – it is a commercial for a Sham POW, where they hit some Dumb B! Prostitutes and a bunch of other people…SHAM POW!!!
But no mention of the SLAP SHOT…
Tough….NEVER LET EM SEE YA SWEAT!
Jesse is 100% beyond reproach! He is innocent. He actually cooroprated with LE!!! I rememebr CIndy suggesting to LE in the beginning (on tape) that Zanny the Nanny may have really been Jesse or Amy. Also, on NG last night, didn’t Jesse tell LE that George warned him that Casey was acting like she needed psychological evaluation? (I fell asleep during it, darn it!)
I forgot to tell the Ants to write down some plausible answers under their long shirt sleeves and on the palms of their hands. Crib notes.
Capy 9:39… You mean they can read?
Thanks again guys, I think it should go pretty smooth.
Thanks again guys, I think it should go pretty smooth.
Spacely… oh
Sounds like we may have found the baby daddy….name is Josh, WAS in a carwreck….just didn’t die from it but is dead from self inflicted gun shot… you know, some truth in all of Maggot’s lies… probably thought it sounded better to say the guy died in a car wreck than killed himself after banging her…. 😆 So where is this guy’s family? DNA PLEASE! HAND IT OVER! OPEN UP AND SAY AHHHHH!
well spindy is in the “questioning room” chewing her cud…double piece of hubba bubba and her bottled water…
I HOPE SHE IS SHITTIN HER BLOOMERS!
Someone needs to Sham Pow M because she is a skank 😉
Jules65 9:42 There is an article in the April 20th issue of the Globe, pp. 6-7, on stands now. Shows photos of Josh O’Barr and his family (pictured also) said they would take DNA tests….keep fingers crossed….
Can you imagine the states bill if they DNA test everyone (males) she had sex with?
Jo, does the Globe have a picture of Josh? It this story picks up speed, maybe NG will have a picture of him. I wonder if there is a picture of him on the internet. Think I’ll start searching.
Hope Cindy is wearing depends then C~A LOL 😆
So they gonna release the video of the depo’s or what was said later today? Wish I could see ol cow mouth Cindy answering those questions!
Jules, I was thinking the same thing…”great minds”!! If this was baby daddy, which I doubt, cause she named him…then the family, Mother/Father should give DNA. Can they be forced to????
TOughenough – At end of interview, shake hand of interviewer, look them directly in the eye and ask for the job. Say (with confidence) that you want the opportunity to work there. Asking for the job (not begging, but asking)will set you apart.
Capy 9:45 Yes, there is a photo in Globe and an expert comparing his face to Caylee’s!! Go buy the Globe! April 20th issue, it is all in there and great reading (Obama and aunt scandal on cover) Best news yet: Josh’s family willing to take DNA tests!
http://www.tampaforums.com/forums/free-4-all/suicide-cocoa-beach-pier-276900/
This is a forum discussing his suicide apparently people who know him and it has a pic on there not the best but a picture.
tampaforums.com/forums/free-4-all/suicide-cocoa-beach-pier-276900/
posting this again in case the link didn’t work for a pic of Josh..
MB… According to JO – see post above… the family has agreed to take DNA tests. So what has taken them so long to come forward? I hope this isn’t another deadend. I don’t know why but I REALLY want Caylee to have a daddy… and this guy sounds as good as any…. name IS Josh…he DID have a car wreck… just didn’t die from it…. but IS deceased…. we may be about to find Caylee’s daddy at last!
Jo – thanks for the news. I only saw a small picture of him surfing that his father put on the web.
Another full face photo of Josh O’Barr in the April 20th Globe (p.7), and Dr. Glass compares his facial features to Caylee’s! Josh’s brother Ricky willing to take DNA tsts.
7-10 Two years after being involved in a hit and run accident, which ended his ability to surf (his passion) and left him in constant pain, 23 year old Joshua O’Barr took his unused surfboard for one final ride, ending it by committing suicide off Cocoa Beach, Florida. Joshua, among many others each year, are the untold victims of hit and run drivers.
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Florida Today
Re: Josh – sad story. Constant pain. Eventually lost job, going to be evicted. 😥
http://www.myspace.com/must65tang
Can someone open this link… myspace pages are blocked here at work. Has something to do with this Josh O’Barr and Casey. Someone is saying that the story about Josh and Casey is another one of her lies…. can someone check this link/myspace page?
Every person who came in contact with Casey has suffered… one way or another. Yes, poor Josh!
“I am not happy that I have to write this, but with all the items circulating on the internet, I feel compelled to add this note. What I wrote below, about Josh’s passing, is metaphorical. Josh’s passion was surfing. I do not need to write about the circumstances of Josh’s passing out of respect to his mother and brother.
This Casey Anthony story is just that. One of her many stories and has nothing to do with this Josh. There are numerous people named as father to Caylee through hearsay. A couple of people being pointed at are deceased and this is very disrespectful to the families of those people. Casey, or anyone in her family, has not named any last names in her “father” stories and to just grab anyone with that first name that was in her circle of friends just sensationalizes the story and upsets other family that may still be grieving. The Caylee case is horrible and tragic, but please don’t drag innocent bystanders into the mix.”
From the myspace
Josh is the one on the board but not on the side right??? Same guy or different…this buck dude?
If this is caylees dad then I am happy too…they are together in heaven! Caylee will have her daddy in heaven…
nobody will know for sure until the tests are done!
and on the other hand…I hope it’s NOT Josh…cause this family will have then lost a grandaughter they never had the chance to know OR save…so putting them through this is going to have an effect on an already grieving family….MORE DESTRUCTION TO INNOCENT LIVES…
I really doubt we will ever know who Caylee’s father is.
Jo 10:02am WERD UP!!!!!
C~A ♥ 🙂
Butters ♥ 🙂
So true C~A I hope the father is someone living personally cuz thats too cruel to the family to have their son AND a grand daughter they never met dead.
Pickles! ♥ 🙂 true story in high school we used to have this joke between my friends and I and would always ask “Do your nipples smell like pickles?” long story behind it but LOL.
FuGG that that aint Caylee’s father kcee has to give her life some meaning and if claiming that this dude who died so valiantly and went out with such a bang is Caylee’s father then maybe her empty vacous shell of a waste of skin can have some type of meaning and substinance and its just that…she gets gratification like her life may of meant something and no one can question the father cus he croaked.
This guy killed himself July of 2006…. does that add up with Caylee’s age??? My brain isn’t working…. when would Caylee have been conceived?
My nipples smell like pickles~ ♥
Have you seen the car commercial and at then end it says “does your back seat smell like pickles” L♥VE IT!
either way for this family it’s a lose lose situation…I hope to it’s someone living…at least then the family doesn’t get hit twice..but i do feel they need to know…whoever her bio family is …they have the right to know! I would want to know if it was one of my sons…
Pickles – Yes, I saw that commerical. you, my friend, are getting popular! “Calm as a Pickle” on NG too. ♥
PICKLES….WTF??…LMAO
My daughter was born in October of 2006 and she is 18 mos old.
Jules – Caylee was born August 9, 2005
Your nipples smell like pickles…WHO’S BACK SEAT WERE YA IN? 😉
I’m with Pickles…JB Chatt looks so much like Caylee.
LMAO Yes I love that commercial Pickles!
if you start talking about cucumbers Im out of here 😆
I stinks its JP CHATT I dont know they are identical you can see it..I think that possibly she dogged him the next day or he woke up from a drunk night next to her and ran to the free clinic for a swab I just in all there pics even ones of just him theres always a bottle of some sorts of alkie….I stinks its JP I stinks there maybe bad blood between em him and Caylee are twins…from forehead to chin….everything.If im wrong hey…okie doke but I stinks it JP.
I’m with Picks too cuz there is no mistaking that he does look a lot like Caylee!
C~A read Butters♥ post at 10:10am ♥
HAS JP TAKEN A DNA?
I’m just SOOOOOOOO glad its not Leevil! EW!
I dont know if there has been ANY at all dna from anyone…I dont know if there pursuing that…it would take away alot of funds from the anthonys.
So as far as timeframe goes, this guy could be the daddy. Probably just another dead end… another Maggot lie
So who does their depo first – Spindy or Geo? Is it about time for one of them to start spewing lies yet?
jules caylee would have been conceived mid November 2004
So been on a diet and working out changing my eating habits.. I HOPE every pound I lose goes to M some how lol 🙂
Cram your pop tarts toots cuz yous is gonna be in prison for a looooooooooong time! 😉
Good Morning buds.
I am writing this fast – then must shower get ready for the Dentist.
Watched the re-run of Nancy. Looks like maggot was really setting out to ****manufacture evidence FRAMING Jesse.**** NOT just accusing him! DIRTY DIRTY POOL!!!! She called him one morning, knowing nobody would be home, asking him if she could come over to take a shower. (THIS CREEP THAT LIVED IN HER CAR?) Said her boyfriend was away, and she couldn’t get in his place. NOW THAT SAYS VOLUMES doesn’t it – wouldn’t let her stay there IF HE wasn’t THERE!! She came over, looked clean, not as if she needed a shower at all. WE ALL KNOW BOTH of THOSE LOOKS, DON’T WE!!! She went in the bathroom – he turned on the news in the LR. He was expecting to see Caylee, loves her. The Grunds wonder IF she planted something there, took something from there, God knows WHAT IT did! Always tho something, EVERYTHING – FOR HER!!
Her car was at that final place for 2 days and she called Jesse asking him to bring her a gas can, etc. She probably wanted to get his FINGER PRINTS on the CAR. She didn’t need gas! Dumped – at that last place. SHE DOES HAVE A JOB … a full TIME JOB … planning all her trickery, how to steal better and from WHOM, how to keep them in the DARK and QUIET, and covering her tracks, planning 20 steps ahead, cover her dirty A#S.
I looked at her last night, her confidence, her almost cocky attitude, pretending SHE is almost part of the “TEAM”, the investigation team of the missing Caylee, and came up with the obvious.
WHAT could be giving her THIS LEVEL of confidence in herself? She knows she is a Nothing, a squatter, a thief, one who gets FIRED, a Felon, a loser …
I do think she developed sexual skills, as maybe a Hooker would, and from the boy’s “comments” possibly, IT thinks IT is the GREATEST THING since A/C! THAT IS IT’S SECOND JOB, using IT’S SEX for support, a place to live, food, etc. IT also seems to think IT is the only one on this earth with “that equipment” or skill. THAT is her whole essence, SEX, SEX, SEX! She is nothing more. I notice she hangs with females that are not good looking. More good planning, maggot – Horseface. How WELL she figures thing out always for HER BENEFIT! Some photos with pretty girls, but that is probably an “accident” and they just happened to be there. But the majority of photos… with her “close friends” … OUCH!
Just read a little above … good advice JO. TOUGHENOUGH, also do some Searches. There surely is plenty of informaation on this net too.
I also asked sometimes, how I could learn all about this company … what could I read? Always got the job.
bbl
Butters ♥ Your dieting? You got a plan set out yet? I can help you seriously….I am good at that type of thing! Did you get my email? If so shoot me an email
I have to jet
Peace♥
Pickles – C~A said at 10:17 – Caylee was conceived in mid-November. Maybe on our birthday – HA.
I shot you an email Picks 😉
Whens your bday Capy?? I am a mid Nov. too 😛
From an article on Maggot:
An FBI source working closely on the case has told me so much more than what has been released.
As some of you may recall I had said a couple of weeks ago I was going to contact someone that was working the case.
According to my source in the FBI they have evidence that Casey had used both chloroform & Xanax to drug Caylee, also that according to evidence Caylee had been in the trunk for 11 days, this according to the CSI test results done on the trunk.
The also have evidence that Caylee was at at least 2 drug & sex parties, and had been knocked out on drugs.
Traces of BOTH Chloroform & Xanax were discovered in the trunk of the car in the body fluids tested.
ALSO Casey had ask jesse grund through text messages about Xanax, street name Zanny.
They also have some as he called them Shocking photos.
Jules – Caylee would have been conceived in Dec of 04 because she was born in August of 05 I believe.
The surfer fellow (Josh?)was seriously injured two years before he committed suicide which was some time in 06. I’m trying to find the dates of the accident and his death.
I feel so sorry for ALL these fellows and their families -him and JP Chatt – who MAY be the daddy. What a mess to be dragged into.
JULES – George deposition at 10:30; CINDY’S is at 1:30.
George Anthony and Cindy Anthony arrived at the Morgan & Morgan law firm with their attorney shortly before 10 a.m. They didn’t say anything when they got off the elevator.
Geo is dressed in jeans and a yellow shirt… Spindy is in a red shirt…can’t see pants… both chewing gum, I’m sure.
Pickles @10:13
HUH??? How is she 18 mos. old?
Hi everyone…I just read that Cindy was setting up her own video camera to tape the depositions themselves… I wonder whose bright idea that one is…
Today’s Updates 10:26 a.m. George Anthony and Cindy Anthony arrived at the Morgan & Morgan law firm with their attorney shortly before 10 a.m. They didn’t say anything when they got off the elevator. An off-duty Orlando police officer was with them.
About 20 minutes later, the deposition began of George Anthony in the law firm’s mock courtroom.
The couple is being questioned in the civil case involving their daughter, Casey Anthony. Zenaida Gonzalez, a 38-year-old Kissimmee mother of six, is suing Casey Anthony for defamation.
Cindy Anthony went into the mock courtroom – the place where they are being questioned – and started to set up her a video camera herself.
Before the deposition began, George Anthony and attorney Brad Conway went into one room while Cindy Anthony was taken to another.
The officer, who says she was hired by Morgan & Morgan law firm, remains in the lobby with the media.
In July, Casey Anthony told investigators that a nanny named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez took her child, Caylee Marie. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, whose remains were found Dec. 11 in a wooded area near the Anthony home.
Unlike other depositions, the media had to be escorted to the 16th floor, which is restricted.
George Anthony is set to be interviewed first. Cindy Anthony will follow. Both are expected to take several hours.
More than a dozen reporters and photographers are in the 16th-floor lobby waiting to catch a glimpse of the couple.
9 a.m. Today may be a big day in Casey Anthony’s civil case.
Her parents, Cindy and George Anthony, are scheduled to be questioned under oath by attorneys representing Zenaida Gonzalez, 38, of Kissimmee, who is suing Anthony for more than $15,000 in damages.
Gonzalez claims she lost her job and suffered humiliation and public embarrassment after Anthony told investigators that a baby sitter by the same name took her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie, in June.
Caylee’s body was found six months later. Anthony is charged with first-degree murder. Keith Mitnik, one of Gonzalez’s attorneys, said Cindy Anthony is a central person in the case.
The mother spoke publicly about the nanny when Casey Anthony couldn’t, he said. Questioning will take place at the Morgan & Morgan law firm in Orlando.
Butters – Pickles and I share bd of November 14. When is yours?
Spindy set up a camcorder to record Geo’s Depo!!!! She wants to know what he said and how he answered….it’s her way of saying to Geo I’M WATCHING YOU SO YOU BETTER STICK TO OUR LIES!
With G’s depo at 10:30 and Sindee’s at 1:30 they can compare notes (I mean lies) over lunch. Interesting that she went with him when hers is so much later. I’m sure she’s going to demand to sit with him so she can kick him under the table to lead him to the “right” answer or at least know every word he said.
Well I just hope they are careful moving around considering how fragile they are…I wouldn’t want to see them break a hip or anything…
Nov 17 🙂 lol I coulda pegged you both to be scorpio’s 😉
STATIC ♥♥ You ARE still alive! Been wondering where you’ve been hiding! Yeah, just saw that Spindy was setting up a camera for Geo’s depo…. she’s keeping an eye on him… She wants to know how he answered so she can WHOOP him for telling the truth and/or so she can keep her answers consistant with his.
LOL Just Static I know they will say something and G will lash out in his hulk anger and pass out…
Butters – You too, Scorpio.
All of this drama…and I will bet you that Conway will not allow them to answer a bunch of questions…and like all of the others who have testified before them…Zanny’s lawyers will ask the Judge to force them to answer questions… I hate these games that have to be played…
JUST STATIC – I agree with you – a repeat performance.
OMG..those ants are such freaks!!! You don’t think this is just another way for them to make $$$. They fight to not have the depos taped so they can tape it themselves and sell it! SICK!
Lorim – HA! Gag me with a $poon. Wouldn’t put anything passed them
JUST STATIC – They are not going to be able to pull this kind of crap on the witness stand at M’s trial. It will NOT set well with the jury.
Maybe they are making a video for KidFinders…
“For those of you that feel unjustly accused of anything…try our Beat a Depo tape. This tape will show you how to describe rotting pizza…it will show how to wash pants, vacuum cars and basically clean any potential crime scene… All of this for just 3 easy payments of $24.95… Act now and get this official KidFinders Caylee boat hat…”
Capy…it won’t set well with the judge either…
I would hope that after Geo.’s depo, they would keep them apart until after Cindy’s depo. Surely these attorneys at Morgan and Morgan realize that Geo. might tell Cindy about the questions and what he answered.
Why does Cindy want a tape of this? To possibley fault the line of questioning and bring it to a judges attention??? WTF
Well if the depos are released to the public which they may well be the ants aren’t going to be able to make money on them unless they release them before Morgan or the media does.
I think they want their own copy so they can (1) be sure to say the same thing during M’s trial and (2) because they’re always saying that LE, the state, media etc lies about them! LOL! and (3) this is a dress rehearsal for Sindee particularly so she can be coached on how to behave and appear and speak (and when to “cry” etc) during M’s trial. I’m sure they have “consultants” already lined up to coach them on all that. Eff ’em!
Sindee should NOT be in the room during G’s depo. And he should not be there during hers.
During a real trial they will not be allowed into the courtroom at all until after they have testified (unless they might be re-called) but I don’t know if the same rules apply during a depo.
MYC…It’s been understanding that they will NOT be together during the depo’s. I hope that’s right!
I hope they depo them one right after the other with no time in between for them to get their stories straight. They shouldn’t be allowed to discuss anything in between depos. I’m telling you, Spindy wants to keep an eye on Geo, thus the camera. She wants him to know that “Big Spindy” is watching and he better not say anything he isn’t supposed to or SHAM POW!
You crack me up Jules…
She would have been conceived in November…
She was born in “August 05′ you add three months and subtract a year to get conception date.
SEPTEMBER/OCTOBER/ ( NOVEMEBER) MINUS ONE YEAR
= NOVEMBER 04
Unlike other depositions, the media had to be escorted to the 16th floor, which is restricted
-Orlando Sentinel
After Spindy is done spying on The G man…my guess that they will SELL SELL SELL
SPINDEE WAS FIRST AT 10:30 AND GEE IS AT 1:30..i HOPE THEY RELEASE SPINDEES RIGHT AWAY AND NOT WAIT TILL GEE IS DONE LYING!
C~A G went first, an attorney for Gonzalez told Eyewitness News the questioning for George could go rather quickly, while Cindy’s could take quite a while.
another source is saying gee went first…and sinee was setting up “her own” video camera.???wtf.
SHE IS ONE CONTROLLING FREAKOID! CAN’T EVEN TAKE A DEPO WITHOUT TAKING CONTROL!
“She’s a super freak, super freak
She’s super-freaky, yow”
Casey Anthony case: Maker of Caylee doll sued
orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-caylee-doll-040909,0,6634124.story
SPINDY IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE LIES ROOM!
newsday.com/iphone/orl-bk-casey-anthony-civil-case-040909,0,6027136.story
Before the deposition began, George Anthony and attorney Brad Conway went into one room while Cindy Anthony was taken to another.
C is probably a very selfish lover in bed..
LOL sorry.. thats bad!
SEE GEORGE HIDING BEHIND CONMANS WHEELCHAIR…WHEELIN HIM IN…I THINK CONMAN GOT ALONG IN LIFE FOR A LONG TIME BEFORE YOU CAME ALONG GEE…
LIBERTY, Mo. – Clay County authorities say the pastor at a St. Joseph church tried to meet a 13-year-old girl he met on Facebook for sex, and they want parents to check their children’s’ Facebook accounts to see if he is on their friends list.
The Clay County Sheriff’s office and the Western Missouri Cyber Crimes Task Force held a joint press conference Wednesday, announcing charges against 40-year-old Robert Michael Black, of Independence.
At New Home Baptist Church in St. Joesph, members expressed nothing but love for Black, who is their minister. He has a wife and three children.
For two years, Black, devoted to the ministry, drove to the church twice a week from Independence.
“We have nothing but good to say about Rob,” said Dave Hurd, a deacon at New Home Baptist Church. “He’s been a very good pastor here. He’s been supportive in all that we’ve tried to do. He’s tried to grow the church.”
But police believe Black has a darker side. Deputies arrested him Wednesday night for attempted statutory rape, attempted enticement of a child, and sending porn to a minor.
“The facts in this case are disturbing,” said Clay County Sheriff Bob Boydston.
Officials say Black used a fake name on Facebook, Jon Still, to meet someone he thought was a 13-year-old girl named Ally. He had been communicating with the girl, who was really a Clay County Sheriff’s Deputy, since May of 2008, prosecutors said at the press conference. He had also asked “Ally” several times to meet him for sex.
Investigators say Black sent a nude picture and set up a meeting near a Liberty bowling alley last Thursday. Black allegedly asked the girl not to wear underwear or a bra.
Instead, Black met police. Detectives eventually linked Black to “Jon Still” through phone records.
“Still” has 135 friends on Facebook. Police say all are teenagers between 13 and 16 years old. Investigators fear there may be actual victims.
Butters @11:13
LOL..I wouldn’t doubt that for one minute. Can you imagine?? Yelling directions at Georgie Porgie Harder, harder George, no, to the left, I SAID to the right, slow down Geo., are you thru yet?, hurry up, talk dirty to me like Casey does to us, tell Lee to quit laughing, further up!, no too high, further down!., can’t you even get this right?, do it like Dominec!! You never get anything right George, you balless, dickless, piece of sh*t!!
Good, it’s over. Now go get me some pills. I’ll wash them down with the vodka on the nightstand!.”
MB… ROFLMAO…11:26 Post… As soon as I stop laughing I think I may hurl…. what a visual… MY EYES MY EYES! UGH!
It must be creepy pastor month … they’re coming out of the woodwork and to a store near you! Fuggers!
LMFAO MB hahaha I almost went there but glad you did hahaha
You know what gets me Jules? Statements like this Dave Hurd, the deacon of the church. They refuses to believe how their beloved pastor could EVER be accused of something like this! The congregation will stand behind him all the way. If the pastor is not convicted, he most likely will bow out of his position and get another Pastor job in another city or state. Happens all the time.
I hope we at least get audio from the depositions…If not we are all going to be reading forever 🙁
Not 18 mos…Im so stupid shes like 30 mos…FERDUMB not good in math…my stupid is showing!
Tracy city crews removing Cantu memorial at family’s request
TRACY – At the family’s request and with rain showers forecast, city crews last night began dismantling the massive memorial to Sandra Cantu outside Tracy’s Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park.
Sandra’s family wants to donate the hundreds of stuffed animals, Easter baskets and toys that people have dropped off in recent days to organizations that benefit children, Tracy police said.
Also, the family has asked volunteers to begin taking down all the “missing” fliers with Sandra’s face posted around town, police said.
-Recordnet
lol Picks don’t worry we all make mistakes 😉
Attorneys are having a hard time getting information out of George Anthony, in an update at 12:30, WFTV anchor Barbara West said Gonzalez’s lawyers took a short break and hoped the second part of George’s deposition “will be better.” The delay means Cindy Anthony will be interviewed later this afternoon, West said.
Of course they are having a difficult time getting info out of Geo… He knows Spindy is watching with her little camera and without her hand up his ars to make his mouth move, he’s completely helpless. Now, get Spindy in there, put Geo on her knee with her hand up his ars and he’ll talk… he’ll lie…. but he’ll talk… 😆
MB… yeah, how much evidence do they need before these church folk realize their beloved pastor is human and a PERV CHIMO!?!?!
😆 Jules♥
lol so true jules so true
C~A – didn’t read the article …. who is suing the doll maker…. great… more lawsuits in the Maggot case…. how many suits we up to now?
Butters your bday is in November too?
Why is he doing this???? Why can’t he just answer the damn questions??? It’s all going to come out anyway for Pete’s sake!!!
If their having a hard time with G. can you imagine how hard of a time their going to have with C.????
I just KNEW it. Conway is saying to them “I’ve advised my client not to answer that question” over and over and over and over etc.
Either that or G. is saying “uh, uh, you’ll have to ask my wife”.
Yup Nov 17th picks 😉
G is probably sitting there mouth hung up open going uhh uhhh uhhh *thinks what lie was that and what?* uhh uhh uhhh CINDY!
Hello all,
Just a quick drive by here. I spent the morning watching the Lee-Lazarro car conversation. It seemed to me that Lee was very concerned about Caylee and admitted his sister was a liar.
Also,
What about this Williams guy in Tracy, CA?
He seems seedy to me.
George isn’t afraid to answer the questions, he is intimidated by C. He doesn’t want to piss her off and lose the $$$$ trail and Steamboat.
He aint afraid to ask questions its a ploy for his fragile mind his mental stability…they are milking this…there is something behind this george is a manipulative bastard fuGG him
Hey TORI!! ♥
ya lee was concerned for Caylee till the gravie started flowing…then he got over it…$$$ Cash Rules Everything Around Me CREAM its the money hunad dolla bills YO!!
I mean he aint afraid to answer questions he is a slick sly manipulative screw I dont trust him…he is up to something..he thinks she is a great mother who is wrongly accused….they are going to lie thru there teeth just you watch and see.
I get what your saying Pickles and I agree. They will continue the lieing. But since they are (lieing), can’t the attornies bring charges against them? Perjury?
Does anyone know if they will release audio of the depos? Or are we going to have to read miles of transcripts?
Hi Tori♥
lee lied at his depo regarding hear say about nanny grabbing kcee’s arm at Blanchard Park that was a lie….nanny dont exist.
I will vomit if we have to read miles of nonsense from those two clowns
I don’t think heresay is admissable. That’s been my understanding at least.
I think this depo is a waste of time.
WFTV is reporting: “Eyewitness News has also learned that John Morgan is banking on getting critical information out of the Anthonys that potentially could clear his client’s name.”
Question – who in the USA or anywhere actually believes that ANY Zenaida Gonzalez had anything to do with Caylee?
Guess we will have to wait for C to release her video….GAG!
“We also learned the attorneys are having a hard time getting information out of George Anthony,” WFTV-Channel 9’s Mark Boyle. In an update at 12:30, WFTV anchor Barbara West said Gonzalez’s lawyers took a short break and hoped the second part of George’s deposition “will be better.” The delay means Cindy Anthony will be interviewed later this afternoon, West said.
WESH-Channel 2’s Bob Kealing noted that the Anthony family has said Casey was referring to another Zenaida Gonzalez. “We are expecting, especially this afternoon’s session, to perhaps get pretty pointed,” Kealing said. “You may remember at one point Cindy Anthony called John Morgan an ambulance chaser.”
WKMG-Channel 6’s Tiffany Tift said Cindy had been supposed to go this morning and George this afternoon. “We do not know why, but for some reason, they were switched,” Tift said. “Right now, George Anthony is in the hot seat.”
Lorim @ 11:49 You mean Sandra’s family isn’t going to continue to SELL “find sandra” items like the anthonys’ continued to sell “Find Caylee” t- shirts? (I am being facetious 🙂
Does anyone know if the ants ever stopped selling those old t-shirts?
Capy – thank you for that update! LOL!
I’m not surprised! I wonder on what basis (law) they can refuse to answer questions. In a criminal case I think it’s only pleading the 5th amendment which means they can’t answer or they would incriminate themselves. Might be different in a civil suit.
WESH anchor Syan Rhodes said the station had confirmed that three complaints have been filed with the Florida Bar against Jose Baez, Casey Anthony’s attorney. WFTV broke the story last night that two complaints had been filed involving Dominic Casey, Baez’s former private investigator. WESH said the third complaint involves a public-relations firm, Press Corps Media, that helped Baez. The investigation could take 30 days, Rhodes said.
WFTV reported that the Florida Bar is investigating Conway, the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony. Anchor West said the station was still trying to figure out the exact complaint.
MAN O MAN THE CIRCUS IS IN TOWN!
1:41 p.m.
Lawyers began questioning Cindy Anthony under oath around 1:30 p.m.
George Anthony finished shortly before 12:30 p.m.
Attorney John Morgan said George Anthony responded to a lot of questions but refused to answer some, including details about an incident when Casey Anthony kept him from looking into the trunk of her car and a conversation he had about the ladder on the side of their pool.
He plans to request the judge to force George Anthony to answer those questions, Morgan said.
-Orlando Sentinel
C&Q – That is exactly what they are trying to prove. It was ANOTHER Zenaida Gonzalez, not this one.
I read that in another article about the depo
Casey Anthony’s attorney, Jonathan Kasen, was not at the deposition. Morgan said he was “shocked” that her attorney hasn’t attended any of the depositions. He said Anthony had even filed a counter claim against his client.
-Orlando Sentinel
Lorim ♥ I don’t know why he is refusing to answer about the trunk fiasco. We already heard/saw him on the LE statement tapes. She raced passed him, opened the trunk, grabbed the cans and said “Here are you effin cans” and slammed the trunk shut”.
What’s wrong – cat got his tongue??
I know Capy…these people are lame beyond lame!!
I hope they BURN Cindy….at least try. She won’t talk either.
Since Cindy says she never MET zanny, how can she clear someone she has never seen?
This is stupid.
Casey is the only one who should clear this woman.
Unless there’s more to this than I know of.
I don’t know…..my ear still hurts.. 🙁 Hard to concentrate…
uuuugggh, had work to do… So anything good yet?
Lorim – That’s really interesting news – that M’s att’y has not attended any of the depos!
I wonder if that will enable her to claim incompetent counsel in the civil case!?
I wonder if Morgan can file a motion to insist that one of M’s atty’s be present or to insist that M sign something saying it’s okay that no att’y is present. It’s a little like when M was not attending the hearings in her own criminal case and the state filed a motion asking the judge to be sure that she knew what was going on. Judge Strickland ruled that she had to attend all the hearings (in the criminal case). I’m not saying M should be present during the civil depos but one of her att’s sure should be.
Gosh there is no end to the stupidity of BB’s scheme team.
One potential benefit of these depos is that the state may get an idea of how the ants plan to testify (lie) at M’s criminal trial!
I havent been keeping up on it..I was writing an article!!♥ I missed it all!!
I dont care to hear them clowns any how…there a joke there anthonys if there breathing there lying! I cant stand there voices..never could lee’s depo just pissed me off any how so fugg them
if they lie and then it can be proved it’s a lie then that’s all she wrote… C just reminds me of a sour middle aged woman that is unhappy with how her life turned out so she’s bitter…
C&Q I agree NO ONE in the nation believes the Zanny is involved with this…its retarded! 😛
lee lied at his depo with that hear say that the nanny grabbed kcee’s arm at the park.
2:32 p.m.
The 93-page transcript of George Anthony has been released. A reporter is reading it and will update.
George Anthony started off a bit combative with the lawyer for Zenaida Gonzalez. He did not want to go into details about what daughter Casey Anthony bought for the family house and how much money he gave her while she and her daughter Caylee lived there.
So far, George Anthony said he had never heard of Gonzalez until July of 2008. He did hear the name “Zanny” from his daughter a year prior to Caylee’s disappearance. George Anthony even corrected the way attorney Keith Mitnik pronounced “Zanny.”
-Orlando Sentinel
Well my girl has found the joys of unrolling a whole roll of paper towels! NIce.
There a fuggng piece of work…they know her so well they correct ppl on how to say her name…bullsh! meter is going off the charts..wait till Papa hears this one! Losers.
G depo ready to read on WFTV
Pickles now see if she can be a bigger girl and roll them back up… lol
Stone – that’s cute, whole roll of paper towels. have you seen the commerical where the little boy pours milk on the floor?
When my girls use to empty the dresser drawers i tell them i bet you can’t put them all back in there… Show me you can do it…. trick them into cleaning it back up… i read that they do that as a sense of accomplishment like look what i did aren’t you proud… I cleaned it out for you… lol God love them…
I see the Ants are up to the same old tricks.
Bring you own camera? Hummm
Maybe so she can monitor G’s answers.
We all klnow how much of a puppet master she is. and this camera thing comes at no surprises. Their mentality is, “Us against the world”
I think its funny how much talking that crazy Biotch did when she was out there telling people her granddaughter is alive.
She was literally knocking down media doors to voice her search. Now that realize she made a fool out of herself she wants to be quiet.
Come on C, show some emotions for petes sake, it is your grandaughter that died not your daughter..
10:28 STATIC …
So Spindy is setting up their own cameras.
After all, they can’t trust LE, now can they. Isn’t it funny how people transfer onto other people, WHAT THEY ARE? They “think” everybody is just like them.
No thankfully WRONG! They have their own elite little “Club”. The Lunatic Liars Club.
9:04 C~A I HOPE we see the DOPES DEPO’S today.
In about 90 minutes, for those of you who can get HLN, they always discuss Caylee, Haleigh and Sandra. This starts 2 hours before Jane VM.
People phone in also. Good programing.
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10:30 JULES OMG. THAT’S what it’s all about. She will fire G from the “Organization” and beat him up (or have him beat up), if he says the wrong thing. OMG. IS THAT LEGAL? HE IS NOT HER … he IS himself, I thought. She has castrated him long ago, looks like. Forced him to quit the Police Force … probably TOTAL CONTROL about everything else too.
WHAT A CONTROL FREAK!!!
She thinks she knows it all … and is actually nothing but a low class, common, screwed up mental patient. Again, traits of the Sociopath. Hard to believe, aren’t they? TOTALLY AMAZING.
Hi all maybe someone can explain how you can file a counter claim on a person who just wants to be identified as the one who did not kidnap your child??is KC trying to incinuate, that this is the RIGHT nanny?this woman did nothing but be named at birth..can’t Zenaida say she was at Sawgrass and saw KC in Tony’s car..maybe she didn’t notice,but, someone must have noticed her(KC)isn’t there surveillance??that can place her and Z at the apts???and does anyone know what the Ants did with KC car??
Good Evening All,
I’m back from our odyssey to Orlando and the world of duct tape. I believe I can now safely lay claim to being an expert on duct tape, although it’s not a title I would have wanted.
However, I am now more convinced than ever that there’s something unique about the tape on the gas can and the matching tape on the baby’s skull.
We went to Home Depot, Lowes, Ace Hardware, CVS Pharmacy, and Publix Grocery all in the area of Hopespring Drive, all to no avail. We saw and looked at hundreds of rolls of duct tape, none manufactured by Henkel, and none with any logo or writing of the face.
Then we went to a Walmart Super Center and finally found Henkel Duck Tape (they market their tape as “Duck Tape” not duct tape). I bought 3 rolls. One was labeled as “Utility”, one was labeled as “Professional”, and one was labeled as “Industrial”. No logo or printed matter was on the face of the tape.
Then I thought, possibly the logo and writing is placed intermittingly along the face or near the end of the roll. The girls and I unrolled all 3 rolls of tape (1980 inches). Trust me when I tell you, you haven’t experienced all that life has to offer until you unroll 2000 inches of duct tape with a 5 yr. old and a 7 yr. old. There was not a logo or any other printed matter anywhere. I looked at each inch.
I did not get a response today from yesterday’s e-mail to Henkel, so I sent another one. If I don’t get a response tomorrow, I plan to call Henkel’s U.S. headquarters.
No matter what, this tape IS NOT sold everywhere as Jose says. He is apparantly too stupid to realize what strong and damaging evidence this is against his client.
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