I watched with increasing incredulity as Jose (I really want a book and movie deal out of this case) Baez argued the case to let suspected tot killer Casey Anthony free of GPS monitoring and the other impediments. To let Casey Anthony be able to pick up her life of partying and general irresponsibility that we have come to know. What stupidity.
I don’t have the ‘dirt’ right now, but a good friend and fellow investigative journalist had some very unflattering comments about our knight in shining armor. Baez apparently has a pretty checkered history, he loves the high profile stuff, but, bad news Casey, this guy keeps losing in court! This case sure seems to be fitting right into his Modus Operandi. I couldn’t even see OJ’s Dream team getting this baby killer off the hook.
UPDATE: We do have some info on Mr Baez, you can find it here.
I am always of the supporter of the little guy, us little guys and gals get short shrift in the grand scheme of things. One part of me worries about people like Jose Baez, he is potentially freeing a murderer, but another, much larger part of me thinks that he has the class and intelligence of an Armadillo that has has a full lobotomy. Armadillos have an IQ that you need an electron microscope to measure at the best of times. Jose Baez has hit new lows in the legal profession. These are lows that I have not seen since the OJ Simpson farce in the mid 90’s. I live in hope that the jury are smart enough to see through this slick, but shallow performance.
Today Jose Baez managed to persuade the court that life was unfair for Casey, and now the prosecution is being forced to share their evidence with the likely killer and her attorney.
Personally I think the judge is being quite clever. By forcing the prosecution to share the evidence with the defense, this shuts down a great number of appeal angles once they find Casey Anthony Guilty. Once they put this woman in the slammer, they are not going to let her get back out. That could come as soon as next Tuesday when a Grand Jury get to look at the case.
This seems like a case of stage management, sure, share the evidence, sure share everything, the end result will not change. That is my theory anyway. This is a case that has stage management written all over it. There was a clear case of that on the Nancy Grace show this evening. Nancy has been hammering the Caylee Anthony case for weeks. In spite of her really annoying whiny New York accent she obviously has her head in the right place, and clearly is enjoying this case. Day by day Casey Anthony loses credibility. Unfortunately in order to make a one hour show you have to have some filler. Enter Leonard Padilla, bounty hunter, and also someone else looking for a book and or movie deal.
I class myself as being reasonably intelligent, I also have over 6 years involvement with adult literacy.
I hate being used. I have heard Leonard talk many times, and I know when I am being fed a line. Mr. Padilla would not use the word ‘Pyrrhic’ in day to day conversation. In fact when he used it, he had to take a couple of shots at getting it out. This is not a word that 80% of people have ever heard of. This was not Leonard Padilla talking, this was scripted. Nancy Grace, and the rest of CNN, in fact most channels try to keep to a grade 6 to grade 8 level of english. Pyrrhic, is way outside of that level, I doubt even a grade 12 student could define the meaning. Yet we have a cowboy hat toting rough guy using it. I smell script!
The only loser in all of this nonsense is a little three year old named Caylee Anthony. It is now three months since anyone has seen this little girl alive. Suspected tot killer and mother, Casey Anthony seems to care less about her missing daughter. I am not a fan of the ever present surveillance cameras, but in this case we get to watch Casey cashing bad checks, buying large boxes of beer, and some lingerie. This certainly seems like a caring mother to me!
Once again we have a situation where the truth is obvious, but the legal system would prefer to complicate it, no doubt for their own gain. One aspect that bothers me is that apparently Casey Anthony spends about 6 hours per day in Baez’s offices. What can they possibly be doing? Even if Baez has installed disco lights and a dancers pole in the conference room, you can only watch a sleezy baby killer for so long? And what do you bill this to? Who is going to pay for the new BMW?
Simon Barrett
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Nancy Grace is from the South, she has a Southern not New York accent. Nice article though. Truly, what IS Bozo Baez doing with his client for so many hours?
Dear Simon – Guess what? Just because someone wears a cowboy hat and works as a bounty hunter, doesn’t mean he can’t be intelligent. And, if you’ve been paying attention to the Nancy Grace show over the last few months, you should have noticed that Mr.Padilla is quite intelligent. Also: that accent of Nancy’s is anything but a New York accent!
beautiful!!!
Baez is a clown and he seems to run the court like a cheap circus act.
Every time this guy opens his mouth it’s just a spoof to get media reaction.
More drama for a book or movie about the missing child and Casey.
Cindy and her husband are handling her with kitten gloves ,because they will make money in the future off this tragedy.
I’m not buying the fact that they believe Caley is alive.
Casey wants off home arrest because she is going to run.
I think if something happens to Casey or a inocent person pertaining to death.
Baez and the court system should be held fully responsible if Casey gets killed.
Someone could be following her and cause a fatal accident on the freeway killing inocent people. Baez and cout system should be held responsible if this occurs.
Casey is safer at home including the public.
Casey needs to go to jail and people will stop protesting in front of anthony home.
When Caley comes she can be released time served for unfit mother.
She wants to go search yet the grandparents can go in her place .
Casey father was a cop he knows how to search and investigate, so he needs to get with it.
I think someone should be investigating what’s been going on in Baez’ office when Casey Anthony is there. If they are the only two people there, I’ll bet a million that something sexual has been going on….
Don’t say anything about Nancy. She’s our girl who says it like it is without the drama.
Most of us have wondered what the psycho (CA) is doing 4-6 hrs. in the attorney’s office. They probably have other people meeting with her and it is being hidden. Maybe old friends, (doubtful, since she has stolen from everyone), or whoever, maybe a shrink???????????Definitely needed many years ago. But something else in going on, you can betcha. She is not going to fare well without attention, living with C&G for any length of time, no they’ve got someone else visitng with her.
Hi Simon, her ankle thingy is NOT a GPS device. In Court today it was pointed out by Meg Hughes, Home Confinement Field Officer for Casey in this case said it was not a GPS tracking device on her ankle but it alerts them as to when Casey LEAVES the home and then again when she returns. And whenever Casey is out of the home at pre-arranged places in accordance with her weekly schedule Mr. Hughes checks at those places to make sure that she has arrived and when she has left BUT I have to wonder just how thorough a job Ms. Hughes does. I know Jose Baez is an Officer of the Court and claims that the Court can TRUST him but can you imagine how far Casey could get out of State and then the Country if she were planning to flee. She could leave home at 10:00a.m. with her Bondsman in toe and that can say they are going to Jose Baez’ and Mrs. Hughes DOES NOT follow up and does not become aware that Casey NEVER returned home until 4:01 p.m the same day (unless she calls Mrs. Hughes and asks for some extra time to make it home — CASEY could be long gone. Not that this would happen BUT crazier things have been known to happen when you have a male & female who spend so much time together and top it off where the male is made to feel as though he and only he can RESCUE the female. Look out!!!
The whole Home Confinement Program seems to unreliable and allows for too much human error and opportunity for someone to fall prey to a person who is a master manipulator – like what Casey is.
P.S. There could be the sexual thing between Jose and Casey……………..she has been viewed by some readers as a sociopath, who are highly sexually oriented, so says the psych books. I’m sure she tries.
Karen: Excellent info. Thanks!
Janet, I don’t remember Simon commenting about Padilla wearing a cowboy hat or being a bounty hunter and having anything to do with his intelligence????? I have to agree with Simon that Mr. Padilla did stumble over that word several times and it was obvious it wasn’t a word he was truly familiar with……hence, comes the “script” comment. Television is scripted….that’s just a fact. I did not care for Mr. Padilla in the beginning, but have become more familiar with his personality over the months. I agree he is intelligent in some areas….but “pyrrhic” wasn’t one of them before today.
Tina….welcome and well said!
Zenasmom, I watch NG all the time. She does have a tendacy to be rude at times to her guests and cuts them off mid-sentence if they don’t agree with her. Does’t mean I don’t like her or that I’m bad mouthing her……or I wouldn’t watch her show. It’s just a fact, she has her imperfections like we all do! lol.
Karen, well said. What does “officer of the court” mean……I’m not familiar with that.
Nancy Grace is a rude, obnoxious, and annoying woman who cares about nothing but ratings and I agree with Caylee Has that she cuts people off if they don’t agree with her or she doesn’t like where there comment is going and that is very poor journalism to me and supports my thought of a selfishminded ex-prosecutor looking for nothing but ratings.
does anyone know if Baez’ office is in an office building or a space of it’s own???? Just curious as to whether undercover LE is watching who comes and goes from Baez’ office during the day when M is there? If she is there for 6 hours a day…….she MUST be his only client?????? Anyone else entering his office makes you wonder how he has time for them??????
Dak……I won’t disagree with you on anything you said. But…..she does have HIGH RATINGS….so I guess alot of people love it. I admire her solely because she is the only show host who has faithfully followed a case that AMERICA has become obsessed with…..including you and I or we wouldn’t be on this blog!!
Dak….and also……name me one tv show that isn’t in the business for ratings????? So ya can’t fault her in that area.
You never answered my question the other night. You were reading the new doc’s released and I asked you what you thought about them?
True Caylee Has I watch her from time to time mainly to let out a little frustration by yelling at the tv when she is on, she is a real stress reliever.
You know I got half way through the docs and stop because I was getting a headache but didn’t really think to much of it.
Dak……and it’s people like us that give her the ratings!! LOL. I get frustrated when she interrupts…….but yet I keep watching. LOL
Dak, you mean the doc’s didn’t seem to contain much? (other than giving you a headache! lol)
Is anyone else still here to talk about this case or did everyone leave?
They contained quite a bit but for me it was mostly stuff that I would have preffered not to continue reading.
I can just imagine that other defense lawyers just cringe whenever Baez opens his mouth. Who wants to be grouped with this clown.
I never ever heard a defense lawyer remark ” I donot believe in a Grand Jury” just a few days before his case goes to a Grand Jury.
That must be the zenith of stupidity. Makes even an Armadillo look like Einstein.
Cannot wait till he starts pleading his case. Almost(NOT) feel sorry for Monster. Afterall all criminals have a right to reasonable sane legal defense.
I think everyone left.
Hi Dak,
Not everyone, you are still here.
Dak, what do you mean you would have preferred not to read? Boring? or just irrelevant to your opinion? just curious.
Snookers….I agree! I can’t believe he said that…..maybe that’s why he loses MOST of his cases??? LOL
Baez might not be the brightest lawyer but he is doing his job and people really shouldn’t defame him. I’m not trying to defend him but just all the names and accusations lets just hope that he doesn’t read all these blogs and decide to investigate everyone here and file defamation lawsuits. I’m mean everyone is putting his name out there in a bad light.
Is Baez in a group of attorney’s or in his own practice?
It was more boring to me than anything.
Dak, yeah, but it happens all the time to “celebs” and it comes with the territory of being “famous”, which is what he wanted…..and he got. Even the celebs can’t stop the Papparazzi from following them around….unless they cross the line.
Baez doesn’t seem to be one to care about “his name”. He seems to be thinking all the publicity (good or bad) is making more of a name for him.
Come on Dak…..even YOU have to agree that his statement about the Grand Jury wasn’t very smart. And that’s why he gets made “fun of.”
snookers….still with us?
I am not defaming him at all. I am just observing his alleged incredible stupidity. Some of the motions he submitted , should have been done weeks ago.
I am just waiting when he starts spouting inflammatory statements about the prosecutor/Judge. He already p*ssed off the Grand Jury.
How do you know he pissed off the grand Jury were you there to see their reaction.
I agree Snookers! Your not defaming him, your merely stating an observation of your opinion on something you have personally observed of Baez and his actions. That’s not defaming someone…..your not accusing him of anything that can’t be proven. That’s just my opinion.
Dak, if anyone is being made fun of or defamed, it would be Baez’ and his comment of the Grand Jury.
Yep, BB is surely making a name for himself, however, not the kind of name he intended, I believe.
Dak, let me refresh my memory over the past blogs. You feel that M is guilty, but just not convinced of murder vs. accidental, right. Just can’t remember with so many bloggers on here.
snookers, once again. I agree. I’ve visited many a blog in the past months and the majority of people just laugh at him. He certainly didn’t gain any respect and I don’t think future clients will be knocking down his door for his representation!
But of course we all know…..he isn’t doing this case for “future” clients, he’s looking at bigger $$$$$$….movies, books, etc. Pretty obvious.
well going to sign off….good night to all! thanks for the blogging Dak and snookers!!!
Dak, how would you react if somebody said. I donot believe in Dak. Implying you are just wasted space and a HUGE WASTE LOL.
A Grand Jury is an intregal highly respected part of the judiscal system . Wonder what other things BB does not believe in. Although, I can make an educated guess.
I believe she is guilty only of the current charges, Fraud and child neglect(excluding murder). I for one do not go by just the evidence that is released publicly and sometimes exaggerated by the press. I look at all aspects even the sightings despite the DNA, because a child sighting should never be dismissed or assumed a non sighting just because alot of people think the concerned child is deceased. Find the body and I will concur with everyone else, until then anything that comes up during this investigation will keep optomistic for the best(Caylee alive) or neutral for the most.
That doesn’t answer my question of how you know the Grand jury is pissed off unless thats just your opinion.
BBl
I don’t think he meant the jurors themselves but the process of a grand jury( hence the one-sided comment based off the prosecution.)
As a true New Yorker, I just have to say… Nancy was born in Macon, Georgia, but she lives in NY now… We have such better accents than hers… đ
All i have to say for all those who think Nancy grace is such a great person go on wikipedia and read her bio. Not exactly someone I would wnat as a mentor. Her bio doesn’t paint her in a favorable way.
1. “In spite of her really annoying whiny New York accent she obviously has her head in the right place, and clearly is enjoying this case.”
2. “Pyrrhic, is way outside of that level, I doubt even a grade 12 student could define the meaning.”
3. “Once again we have a situation where the truth is obvious, but the legal system would prefer to complicate it, no doubt for their own gain.”
Especially for number three:
You, sir, are an idiot.
Someone asked if Baez worked in an office building—–NO—–hs office is in a strip mall.
How in the world can this Defense attorney Jose Baez want to even try and help Casey after all the evidence he has collected? What if his child were missin, and it was the other way around…Sometimes, I think these defense lawyers are cold heartless bastards…Tryin to defend someone who they know in their right mind as done such as hurt a child, killed or even taunted another…But yet, they are there and sayin their client is innocent…Yeah right…This woman deserves nuttin…! She gave nuttin to police in any sense of the word to help locate her child and all she is wantin now, is an excuse to get out and breathe some fresh air…Well, I say, lock the Bitch up…She deserves notta! And what is worse sicken, is that her parents are end on it too but yet all 3 knows nuttin…How come she even needed a nanny in the first place? How come she didnt let her mom keep her child if her mom so loved this lil girl? They both are retired and have lots of money, so why didnt Casey leave Caylee with her parents to babysit…The more i hear about this story, the more sick to my stomach I get…A child is gone bcause a stupid mother such as Casey wanted more to party then to raise her child…Then she shouldnt have laid down and spreaded her legs!
I love Macon Ga. …was there once to visit friends…got lost and had to ask a guy for directions. When I got back in the vehicle they asked me what he said…”I don’t know…he was sooo good looking and I loved his accent!” They laughed and acknowledged some things never change.
nancy – strip mall…that explains how m decided to have him defend her.LOL
I have to say I disagree with the paddy slamming. Paddy comes across as very sincere to me and knows alot more about the case then we do. He seems to have (with rob dick) been continuing to dig to pin point the area where the baby is. He is not a big mouth nor does he come across as self serving, cowboy hat wearing idiot or anyting else.
He seems to be the only one in the case that has anything sensible to say and gives us hope that LE is on the right track. I am sure he is following this case and going on NG not for himself, but he will be, without a doubt called as a witness as well.
If he was some kind of big shot idiot cowboy, nancy would have tore him a new butt hole by now.
Good morning all… were up early!
Some of my thoughts on yesterdays court drama
i say let baez have it all because hes still not gonna win this case. this case won’t be won because with a child murderer they don’t go free…and the evidence we have been told so far.. is enough for the conviction…
i read up soome in this blog, NG is southern speaking and i followed her many years, although interruptive, and antagonizing, she is a fine person and you can just see it the emotion when she tears up about basically everything…i am a big fan…her parents should and are probably very proud of their daughter…i think she should prosecute M…
although padilla may be loving the limelight the man is loaded and i am sure doesnt need any money , whether he makes a book or movie deal.. don’t care M is the one who caused it all to come forward and so, she is the reason anyone will profit off of her precious girls henious demise…
i have been watching nancy grace show too. if you really look at the video’s of casey being led to where ever … the one with that black umbrella look at it in this way….
casey acts like she is the child and her lawyer as the parent figure…. she was so jealous of caylee and the relationship caylee had with her mom and dad , george & cindy anthony.
she was sooo jealous of her daughter that she killed that baby to get back what she felt was her place in her parents eyes .
you can plainly see that as she is led around hanging on to her lawyer as if she is the 3 year old. watch closely and you will see it too.
smiles its nauseating to watch i left a post yesterday on the latest videos of her stealing from target caught on tape… and her matter of fact manner she did this in, all the while where is caylee??? lying in some dirt filled worm ridden grave? no wait she is really in puerto rico, with some weird person, who has gotten away with the kidnapping of the century!! some things in this case set me off and the videos do, her mouth when she speaks, her childish speaking, and someone sai maybe she is elading them to the body by asking to be let out? NEVER!!!
smiles its nauseating to watch i left a post yesterday on the latest videos of her stealing from target caught on tape… and her matter of fact manner she did this in, all the while where is caylee??? lying in some dirt filled worm ridden grave? no wait she is really in puerto rico, with some weird person, who has gotten away with the kidnapping of the century!! some things in this case set me off and the videos do, her mouth when she speaks, her childish speaking, and someone sai maybe she is elading them to the body by asking to be let out? NEVER!!!
let us not forget in jail she studied up on law books.. on this blog i have said all along i will hold out hope, and i leave a tiny shred open that maybe i am wrong.. but when i see her in action in her own words and actions, I am not a stupid person, a lay person, and it is s obvious what happened.. I just never imagined anyone would come up with something this outrageous…a nanny stealing a child…why? (I’m trying to be careful when i hit submit to not post twice!)
let us not forget in jail she studied up on law books.. on this blog i have said all along i will hold out hope, and i leave a tiny shred open that maybe i am wrong.. but when i see her in action in her own words and actions, I am not a stupid person, a lay person, and it is s obvious what happened.. I just never imagined anyone would come up with something this outrageous…a nanny stealing a child…why? (I’m trying to be careful when i hit submit to not post twice!)
i was also thinking…. and i do not know much about the legal system and how it works in a case like this….
why does the state have to supply her and her lawyer with everything they know and all the evidence they have against this baby killer yet casey and her lawyer do not have to supply to the court all that they know?
like his statement… that it is in the best interest of his client(casey)that she not say what she knows concerning her missing daughter? why does one side have to tell everything and yet the other side hide the facts that they know?
I am not sure even if baez believes her, hes just representing her…. its a challenge for his career…he has to know the public opinion and he is doing what he is supposed to do, represent the evil among us, someone has to do that dirty job..M has never once come out in public to speak to say anything about her innocence. she hides under baze cause shes just a kid and she thinks hes gonna save her…
SMILES~ YOUR BACK…Hi there…looked for your email but maybe I missed it.
Good point too about def. not saying anything but state handing crap over…it’s all cause the burden of proof is on the state I think.
I have to disagree with your take on Leonard Padilla. It seems much of what he says is valid. The fact that he used a word unfamiliar to most does not necessarily mean he was reading from a script. He has been in the bounty hunting business for years, and although I do not agree with him having bailed Casey Anthony out of jail the first time, I do think he is speaking from experience. He also is very close to the investigation and knows far more than most of us want to believe.
Furthermore, I think you need an editor for all you post Simon as there are errors throughout.
in her mind she back to the age to where she ended her daughters life…. she acts like she is 3 years old.
she had a month to look for her daughter and chose to go out stealing and partying with her friends instead…. now her lawyer says she wants to go out to look for caylee…. its all so fake and 100% thought up by beaz so when they go to court with a murder charge it will make it seem like she is a concerned mother with a missing daughter.
he knows that the fact she never bothered to look for caylee nor ever reported her missing that just with that tells what kind of mother she was to caylee and that caylee is dead. baez will claim… oh what do you mean she wasn’t interested in finding caylee….. we even petitioned the court for her to be able to look for her daughter and it was turned down by the court. she wasn’t allowed out of her house
but i do not think it will work since never once did she attempt to look for her nor act like a loving concerened mother with a missing daughter and with all those lies she told the police right there proves she did not care to ever finding caylee. why???? cause she is hoping that they never find that baby cause she is dead and buried at the hands of the monster of a mother casey is.
hi caylee angel!!!
Pammy -Ng had the original interview with M on last night…when she talked about how her mom would never forgive her, and how she would never forgive herself…whah whah..and how she has been beating herself up everyday and that all she is doing is running in circles cause that’s all she can do right now”?????
There was NOT A SHRED of pain in her voice..beating herself up..yah all the way to target…
JAN BARRETT – Sorry but if ya want to talk about a “Script”…
yes i am back… i didn’t send an email yet cause i have been in bed… i got this terrible cold and bronchitis and still not feeling all that good… but i did save your email address and was planning on sending you an email today
Nancy Grace is from Macon, Ga. my hometown and her accent is not NY.
Good morning everyone! Can’t stay long.
I had never heard of Leonard Padilla when all of this started and my first impression was not favorable. But even then I was glad that he bailed M out when he did. At that time she and her mom were screaming that M could not help find Caylee because she was behind bars.
Enter Cowboy, who said, “Okay. I’ll get you out! Just tell me what you know and I’ll find your baby and that nanny!” (paraphrased) And he meant it! He and his team would have hunted them down! But as we all know, M did NOTHING even then to help find her baby.
But thanks to Mr. Padilla who called her bluff we know that an opportunity to find that child was not lost! M and her mother don’t have any credibility as far as M helping to find her child thanks to Mr. P.
pammyliz – I heard that M read a lot in jail but the jail would not release info on what she was reading. I imagine it was romance novels. I can’t believe she read law books.
I can see her using them as weights for bust exercises but that’s as far as I can see her use for them.
And I sure hope all our Baez bashing doesn’t end up enabling M somewhere in the future to get off scot free or get a new trial due to an incompetent attorney! EEK!
Loretta – errors…so what…but I do agree with your point of view on Paddy…stumbling on a word or two does not mean squat..He DOES know way more then we do about this case.
smiles…oh poor girl…sorry to hear your under the weather but still love caylee enough to check up on us…get well my friend..no hurry for the email…I’ll be here!
Oh, and I meant to mention in relation to the sickening “under the umbrella” video moment. I had to laugh at a clip of video – kinda old now – of her clinging to Rob Dick’s arm and he pulled his arm out of her grasp. Good for him!
(Rob being security guard at the time as part of L. Padilla’s team).
I wonder if Strickland will allow her to go look for the one day (being Monday) that she will have cause Tuesday she’ll be the pen.
I would be interested in knowing where she thinks she can go that LE hasn’t already been.
Just so the def. can’t say she was denied looking for her even though, the dates will be known on the 4 months she didn’t give a rat’s asss where the baby was.
But she will not be able to do it alone. LE will have to accompany her.
How stupid would that be for her to be allowed out unaccompanied, the night before GJ…and she flees..I don’t care, I don’t believe any who says she is NOT a flight risk…look what she is capable and then tell me she won’t try to run…they have HER neck in a noose and she did not count on getting caught…
mytwocents…i didn’t see that with rob…good for him is right..m thinks she can swing those hips and flap those gums and one or the other will end up getting her what she wants…gig’s up biotch. the whole world is disgusted with everything about YOU..your trash and your going down for doing what you did to your poor baby….I have Caylees “hiding in toys with the bunny ears as my background on my comp. with her little toes pointing in…breaks my heart, my point…does casey have the look alike caylee with teddy in a noose on hers??
Or no maybe a list of upcoming events at Fusion that she will miss….bet she sheds a tear on that subject…but none for caylee…
I dont think the purpose of going to the “points of interest” is about searching for Caylee at all, but rather retracing her steps with LE in order to fabricate more BS about why she said this and that. Then she will come back with I really meant…..etc. She needs to nail down a new story to explain away the old one.
Just my opinion.
Dana….think m is out of stories and anyone who would believe anything she says…the only thing anyone is interested in is her confession of WHATEVER happened…WITH PROOF…in any case…wherever caylee is it’s my opinion that no matter what happened, m is fully responsible.
I find it very hard to believe that C never once wanted to meet or talk to the “phantom” zanny…never picked baby up from sitters, never wanted an address or phone number from M in 2 friggin years…COME ON Now C…why are you covering up for M..I thought she loved that baby…oh but yah, c also lied when she said M “loved that child”…neither one of their actions proves that.
Oh and grandma C was NOT in the courtroom yesterday either….hhhmmmm???? NOr was daddy G
Simon-Most everything that Mr Baez asked for yesterday is scheduled to be released by the DA in discovery. Jose knows this as does Judge Strickland. The request for a potential child abuser to be free of home confinement and the GPS devise is not going to happen. You know it, I know it and if we both know it, don’t you think the Judge knows it?
It’s all theatre and Jose is the leading man. Jose probably mentioned this strategy to Casey and she said to go ahead. This covers him for a possible appeal of ineffective counsel. Everyone who has been following this case in a meaningful way can see that.
Lawyers stick together and even Nancy Grace wouldn’t knowingly state that much of the craziness of this case comes from listening to Casey. Everyone has to do what it takes to see that justice prevails and no one should lose their license to practice law; Casey Anthony is not the first sociopath to walk into Jose’s office and she won’t be the last. Attempting to tarnish Jose B.’s reputation does little to move any legal arguments forward.
When you sit down and really think about this case one thing is for sure:Casey Anthony is spending the last weekend of her freedom at home with Cindy and George-two people who enabled her to get to where she is today. They might have been well meaning but when they observed inappropriate behavior made no efforts at any type of intervention.The gig is up.
Casey will be rearrested possibly no later than Wednesday afternoon. Life as she knows it is over. When she took Caylee’s life she gave her own to the State.
In this country we have a system of justice no other country can match. It has it’s flaws but we all hope that if errors are made they are amended and the innocent are freed.
It shouldn’t be lost on anyone that part of acquiring justice for Caylee is giving her dignity in death. Burying this child is our duty.
We celebrate her life and we grieve. We have an opportunity to support and pray for all those who were blessed to have Caylee in their lives and we grieve now that she is gone.
At the end of the day no one will ever care a what “pyrrhic” means or who said it. Let’s not nail everyone who comes in contact with Casey Anthony.
good comments all… everytime i try to forget about this case and do what i need to do, images of M come back in my head and i start thinking about this case again i guess its cause normal loving moms cannot even fathom the scenarios painted by M… I can’t even leave my girl with a neighbor for long, (I only know her now maybe 6 months) and still if I do leave her for say an hour, or up to the corner even, in the back of my mind I am worrying about her ( I trust family and daycare).. not that shes bad lol. she has 3 of her own!!!… its just normal worries moms go to, to take every precaution with their children…. and i am extremely paranoid.. so even any of the scenarios M stated happened left her on porch, can’t remember where? shes “grasping” she says for anything to give LE OMG what the F&*( are you even talking about???!!!!
wow abby, your post brought tears to my eyes, WELL SAID!!!!!
wow abby, your post brought tears to my eyes, WELL SAID!!!!!
Danna – I think you’re right about the purpose that Baez supposedly had in mind for going to visit the places M took LE. I think it will be funny, though, because when M and BB get to Universal they probably won’t be let in. She has no ID. Neither of them have any business on the property or being in a corporate office building. The only reason M got in before is because she was with the cops who probably showed badges so that the guard would let them enter!!!
(I should not have written that. Now BB’s spies will see it and be tipped off that they’ll need permission or a warrant or something to get in there.)
caylee~angel at 8:44 am. I agree about Cindy. A supposedly doting grandma who knows her daughter is screwed up and yet M fools them for 2 years about employment and a nanny?
Cindy’s (weak) answer to cops: “There was never any reason” (to know the nanny or any info about her). BS! Either you didn’t care, Cindy, or you turned a blind eye to it! Either way you are responsible! You made monster keep that child!
my2cents- I must have missed them asking C about not knowing anything about Zanny. Never any reason….you have to be kidding me. That is the biggest pile of crap I have ever heard…from a stand in ‘mother” to this child to boot..they have said many times that C was more of a mom to baby caylee then M…I believe that to be a fact..but for her not to have any concerns or questions or proof of the where abouts of caylee for 2 years…SHE IS LYING AND COVERING…CASEY NEVER SAID ANYTHING TO HER MOTHER OR HER FRIENDS ABOUT ZANNY CAUSE SHE ONLY MADE HER UP WITHIN THE LAST 6 MONTHS WHEN SHE STARTED LOOKIN UP CHLOROFORM AND MISSING CHILDREN AND STARTED PLANNING HER DAUGHTERS MURDER..
hi guys….pammyliz your still posting twice…hehe đ
does anyone think it’s odd that the cashiers at target didn’t check the id against the checks? especially since she bought beer and showed her id and the check was in a different name?
does anyone know the date in which M and G were racing toward the trunk to get the gas cans out for G?…when casey wouldn’t let him do it himself?
also found some interesting stuff about benz and his old web site….funny stuff, he main focus for lawyer was dwi/dui back in 07
who appointed benz to this case or was he hired by momster/family?? wonder why they picked him?
easy going mom – I wondered the same thing the other day and one of our posters wrote to say that she’s been a cashier and usually they are not trained how to properly review checks and ID. Also M signed her own name to some of the checks and then showed her own ID so the cashier just matched them but didn’t notice that the check had a different name on it.
Plus another poster reminded me that I think LE looked in her wallet on July 15 and saw an ID behind her driver’s license which opens up the question of whether she had some kind of fake ID or had found something of Amy’s to use.
So basically yes it is unbelievable that she could get away with it as easily as she did.
easy going mom: M picked him. There are two theories on how she found him. One is that it was initially reported that she got the name from women she was in jail with when she was first arrested. Another poster said that M knows Baez’s daughter from school or something.
easy – doesn’t surprise me…he’s only looking for notoriety with this case…and let’s face it..the whole world knows who is he now..and he was prob. the only one who was brave enough to take her on..which is why she didn’t get nejame…he wouldn’t touch her..who would of prob. defended her way better but wouldn’t accept a lap dance as payment..thank god she got bozo..
Morning all, just stopped in to read your thoughts.
My thoughts are, just pray the mom, dad and M make it through this weekend, alive.
yea i wonder if she had amy’s id as well as the checks, but if amy was out of country wouldn’t you think she would have her id with her + passport?
well anyway she put her ‘foot in mouth’ sort of speak on that one….
caylee~angel at 9:09 am.
I agree. That comment from Cindy was in one of the interviews with cops (Aug 1, I believe) that were released not long ago. It’s where she’s sitting on the left and the cop is facing her and holding her hand.
She also said during that interview that she gave Lee her cc statements (not the cops) and she also said that she believes that “zanny” was the term M used for whoever was taking care of Caylee at the time. What BS!
cj – still worried huh!..It will be a long one. do you know if monster is allowed to go out at all to see bozo on weekends? Extra long if she doesn’t get her 6 hours of play time away from c and g
Nejame is used to winning AND to getting paid so M is a lose-lose for him!
mytwo-did lee hand over the cc statements? I would really like to know everything she bought on those cards..
Maybe it’s part of the evidence we haven’t heard…maybe there are all kinds of stuff on their not condusive to a doting mom…like chloroform
well however she found him he a crack-pot lawyer… found his old website today and he is in no way able to win this case–he is in way over his head on this, however it will make for an interesting trial – and ding-a-ling momster cant see this….hahahaha
Have to go for now. If Kris comes on line will someone please tell her that I only signed off last night out of sheer exhaustion? No reflection on her at all!
And no reflection now on you all. Just stuff to do! BBL!
hi ca
no i do not believe M is allowed ‘out’ weekends except for church on Sunday..
when is the grand jury meeting next week? do you think it will be aired on tv?
question: the chloroform was found in truck? how much? had a thought about it…..if momster put caylee in there to ‘sleep’ while out partying do you think the chloroform bottle could have spilled out and the fumes just overwhelmed the little one?? in large amounts of chloroform – dose it have an smell?
I highly doubt it that she would go to church..she would burst into flames…
easygoing – it’s on tuesday and heard it’s a secret..no tv
The grand jury is a closed proceeding. It will not be aired on television.
bye my2
ok i;ll make sure to go online tue evening for any news updates
funny….momster walking into church and bursting into flames…..hehehe
caylee angel… i sent you an email
easygoing- I don’t know if chloroform has a smell..I find it hard to even talk about putting the baby in the trunk to sleep…makes me feel sick at what she had to endure…but is very possible monster spilled it ( maybe has no smell) thought she cleaned it up…gave baby a dose to sleep put her in the trunk that was saturated with the fumes and killed her…koby said at one point (think it was him) on NG that the amount of chloroform that saturated the air of the trunk would be enough to knock out the driver of the car…so she could have even had baby drugged up in the car seat in the back…tinted windows I think and in the dark who would see her…the fumes would have killed her in the car seat too..that’s when baby ended up in the trunk…for a long time…..till c could figure out what to do …as she decomposed and thus the hair etc…baby spent days in that trunk
smiles…k hon!
Watching this morning news with Bobo face on it just makes me throw things at the TV…
I’m sure his client is elated with the courrt decisions, ( A comment Bobo made on channel 13) I don’t think she’ll feel the same way Tuesday..
Plus, Bobo, made the statement that this client still has all the confidence in him…
I’m glad she does, cause I can’t wait to see the faces when the jury convicts Momster.
I’m curious to why LE wants DNA from LEE?
DOes anyone know the reason?
sure they want the dna to make sure he wasn’t the one dead in the trunk
maybe he’s the daddy ca(sey) + lee = caylee
Mark Nejame, et al are being paid by an Orlando Missing Child/Abused Child organization. I forget who they are. Nejame is representing Mr and Mrs Anthony.
They are potentially culpable if they have in fact obstructed justice, lied to law enforcement or any utterances relative to who had the child or caused harm to the child:re:Jesse Grund and Zany Gonzalez.
You can be sure that if they perpetrated an untruth (i.e. “Zany was the babysitter;Jesse was cruel and is the only one I know who could have harmed Caylee”, etc) they can be charged and will become defendants should Zany F-Gonzalez and Jesse Grund file for defamation.
The Anthony’s were or are broke so they needed help and the firm needed the publicity. It’s a classic win-win.
If I were Jose I’d be taking a look back at all the lawyers who tried the OJ case and examine their profitability and their game changing career paths. Not one of them is practicing law today in a courtroom in CA. They are all decent people who made it out alive. Here’s hoping Jose doesn’t get blinded by the bright lights!
smiles…laughs at your most recent post…and I sent you an email back…go see hon!
smiles – ca (y) lee – tis been a recent rumour! We will soon find out since (uncle) Lee had to have a court order to hand over HIS DNA
Are LE looking into a possible Bio father for Caylee by DNA ing LEE? Isn’t that her bio brother, Did Lee come from a different mother then Cindy?
allie – I get confused with this one but I think that they are wanting to RULE out bio fam as being daddy to baby caylee.
Lee is from what i hear only step-brother to monster…think lee is the one with diff. mommy but both have same daddy G..don’t quote me I have never read any proof just what I read here.
I think G is the only one with clean hands in that family…I would not be surprised if LEE is Daddy…
If George testifies on Tuesday for the prosecution, does anyone really think he’ll say much? Thank god LE has their Interviews recorded..
I think G is willing to tell the truth! Basically answer questions with honesty.
What makes me so mad, is that Caylee grandparents go and go with the comments about how much they loved this little girl, but now wouldn’t do anything in the honor of Caylee. I think they would rather sit back and except the fact the Momster killed her. They would even stand up for caylee rights by putting the killer behind bars…
allie – yes i agree..LE has more truths on monster then they do in their little belief system…forensic evidence vs belief system.
It was a slap in the fact of justice for caylee the day they brought her ass home from jail.
Its a lot different when and adult turns up missing, there is many things that a defense can use in order to pursuade a jury.
But, a child gone missing is a whole different story….If you are the parent you are responsible for this child completely. No question asked…
that’s right that is why …hy(pathetically) speaking…if someone else killed the baby and m is covering or accident or kidnapping…it all comes down to one person… a MOTHER protects her child in every sense.
In any case…Casey is responsible for her daugher and ulitmatley for her death even if wasn’t at her hands. She put caylee in harms way is one thing we know for certain…she should pay for that no matter what….
casey was the one making decisions on where and with who she left that baby…it was her decisions ALONE that led to the disapperance of baby caylee. Nobody else is responsible for the baby but her…
Are we going the see a trend of missing child who’s babysitter kidnaps them now?
We need a conviction for this Momster, if anything, to set an example for the next parent who kills their own child…
I can’t wait to hear the STATES theory in whole….at trial. From beginning to end. I hope we can all make sense of what really happened really soon…and finding caylee is at the top of the priority list.
While the world finally buries our little angel properly…M better be sitting in jail with no SPECIAL RIGHTS…to attend the funeral..they wouldn’t allow it anyway..that woudl be another injustice for caylee…there would be no proper burial with m around..
Rest in Peace caylee angel..xo
I get so involved (emtionally) with this case.
Angel do you have children?
My girl just turned one, and I am older and set in my own ways. I didn’t think I would have kids… But, I can’t imgaine my life with out her…
My point, Its not easy raising a child, but momster had help from her parents,and even when times get hard, as a parent, you have to make the conscious decision everyday to be the best you can be for your child sake.
I wonder what Momster was thinking the day she killed Caylee?
Ya know, I really think that the young parents of today live in such a selfish, lazy, throw away ,spoiled world that their children are seen as nothing more then mere problems that need to be either:
Given to parents to raise
Neglected
Brought to all night parties
abused
left with people they don’t know or trust…
and the list goes on and on….how young people can and continue to throw away their children literally so they can get on with their life…
So I say yes, I hope this sets a big precidence..put an end to our throw away society at the expense of young innocent lives..kids today aren’t taught abstinence, or consequence…once the novelty of a cutsey little baby wears off and in caseys case starts talking….there of no use anymore..it’s sickening.
Allie – yes I have 5 kids…17,15,13,4 and 2…the teens are a challenge and with drugs and alcohol experiments.it’s not easy and is down right scary..dont’ get me wrong..my kids are as normal as they come and in no way in any trouble per say but it is scary how easy they can stray and cross the line from experiments to addiction…
what was mom thinking when she killed caylee…”how am I gonna cover this up and get away with it”..
Yeah, your right…..
Its sad but true, and I’m sure the state paid for Momster delivery. I don’t think she had insurance from her job….. LOL
state is going to continue to pay for m for a long long time…can’t wait to see her led away to the cold hard slammer where she will know everyday what is like to be thrown away and forgotten…like what she did to her own baby…god, I am almost wishing away our long thanksgiving holiday weekend just to get to Tuesday and the hearing…I too am so emotionally involved….I have a little blue bunny that appeared out of nowhere, never seen it before the same day I put up a pic. of caylee in bunny ears on my p.c..I don’t believe in coincidense…and if you humor me..the song “I’M ALREADY THERE” by lonestar was playing…I love those moments..
I’ll take it you’re close to my age…39
I don’t know if I could have 5 kids, I’d pobably have to kill one of them… đ
just kidding… I do my best with one, and that’s the truth…You’re a better person then most to have 3 teens and 2 toddlers…You were almost out of the woods!!!! Round two..Ding Ding…
thats nice to hear, though…
It explains why you care so much about this case…
ca. Im sure that is what she was thinking…after she did it. as to the actual motive I hope we find out. One things for sure. Insanity will not be an option for defense.
For almost 2 years Casey was telling everyone she had a job and was acting like she was getting up and going to work. What was she doing? Weren’t there escort service searches on her computer? I think she was working as an escort and using xanax (zanny) to sedate Caylee while she was “working.” She may have had trouble finding or paying for xanax all the time so then she started using chloroform to sedate her. Caylee’s death may or may not have been accidental but whatever happened, Casey was responsible for it. Then she drove around with the body in her trunk for 10 days until she ditched it somewhere near the airport. Her “line of work” may be how she is paying for all this high priced legal services now….with Casey and her attorney trading “services”…thus the 6 hrs per day at his office.
Other than a name in our Entertainment News every once in awhile I never really knew who Nancy Grace was or watched her show until this case exploded. I live in Ohio and unless I do a search each day about this case I get no information unless I watch NG each night….and I do, faithfully. I still feel that the reason most of us are so outraged by this monster is because of the lies she is telling, the lack of emotion she has shown, and the real deep seeded fear that all of us have, that by some freakish chance she might walk away from this becoming a “victim” herself, and making millions from movie and book deals. It’s pretty sickening. I’m not a religious person per se, but I do think about this child everyday and pray that what I hear on TV is true. New evidence will be given to the grand jury that we haven’t heard yet, and it will be so overwhelming and compelling that even without Caylee’s poor body this pathetic vile piece of garbage will never be free again. I hope she is sent to the worst prison imaginable and immediately put into the general population of inmates. I hope each night she hears that cell close and the lights go out that she she is plagued with the nightmares of what she did to her daughter. I hope her life in prison is short, and I hope that somehow chloroform can be part of her execution cocktail.
Sorry it seems so harsh, but compassion should never be extended to someone who treats the gift she was given with so little regard with how precious a child’s life is.
Well, for one thing, at least Tim Miller is back to search…
My only problem with him is that he never seems excited by the searches. Yes its sad, to say the least, but I’m looking for something to grasp here… It seem as if Padilla only leaves me excited about Equusearch.
Tim made a statement that their concerning another 4 to 5 weeks to return when the ground in dryer….MAn, I just keep wishing that they’d find CAylee..And why does he have to spend 5 hours talking to C & G…
Oh trust me I know i was almost out of the woods but hubby had to cum along with the strong urge for a bio baby…didn’t take much for me to agree…LOL
But yes, I love each of them and I see what caylee should be doing and saying everyday in both my 2 and 4 year olds…caylee was robbed of her life..
info/over – I do not think your being harsh at all..I only disagree with one point and that her stay in prison will be short…that’s too easy for what shehas done..costly to the state or not…she should spend every #@$%&^ day of her life in prison..till she’ old ugly and grey..when andif she gets out at 75years old..they should hand her a list of upcoming hot body contests at Fusion as they kick her ass out the door…
Overload,
Your feelings for this case is shared by many others on here….
Well put…
allie – I feel the same about Tim…no it’s not exciting that a baby is dead nor will it be to find the proof in her little bones..(damn it, this is so hard sometimes) but I also am wanting to see more enthusiasm in finding the truth..I dunno..I think maybe tim ( not a spring chicken) has had many a years of this behind him and many a case that is taking it’s toll. I like paddy, and when he said “tim, WILL FIND THE BODY…I was so excited by his enthusiasm and want to believe it so much…just helps out when we all feel like we have been waiting a lifetime for some justice and to find the baby…it’s gruelling for sure…that prob. what’s up with tim..he’s prob. numb to the pain he must deal with everyday. getting emotionally involved is prob. not good for him. He can leave that up to us…
Hey, just wanted you (Simon) and Jan to know that there are a lot of us who follow your blog but don’t comment. However, you have been on target and very helpful to me, and others, in keeping up with this worthless piece of humanity and her no-better mother.
Also, not all young people are so irresponsible in raising their children, whether or not they were expected. I know one young woman of 17 who has a daughter of 9 months and she lives and breathes to take good care of her little girl. I have seen her panic when the little one has a cough or runny nose. That piece of trash Casey Anthony has NO excuse for caring so little for the precious life she so carelessly tossed aside. I wait,as do many others, impatiently for them so slap on the cuffs for the last time.
Thanks for doing a great job in helping to keep me informed of where this case case is everyday.
Information Overload:
Some other good sources of info are ones you can find on the web sites of local Orlando news stations like:
local6.com
wesh.com
wftv.com
orlandosentinel.com
keeping – article.
caylee anthony a victim of disturbing new trend…
my comment about young parents was a general one. I am sure there are plenty and I would hope, young parents out there, just commenting on the rise of young parents and their inability to cope with parenthood so they do stupid things like say nanny stole her but there was no nanny or I left her in the car for only a second but come to find out there was NO car or baby at the station.
alliethinks:
I think the DNA from family members is to help rule out what belongs to who in that trunk. There may be more to it than that but for now that’s all we know (I think).
mytwo- yes there is prob. more then cayless and casey’s dna in there…if they get dna from all and still no match…who else had access to the trunk?
meaning…who else’s dna would ever be in there but the fams
alliethinks: I see a level of sincerity, enthusiasm and dedication in Tim that to me is far more important than “excitement.”
He’s the one who plans every aspect of each search, physically participates in them and is the public representative for his organization. It would be physically and emotionally draining for a man or woman half his age. And in the end – when successful – he stands over the remains of someone’s loved one – including his own daughter.
That has to take a toll on the kind of excitement we might see from someone who is less or differently involved, you know?
His emotions seemed “excited” to me when he responded to Cindy’s accusations about him and EquuSearch. He’s got spunk that’s for sure!
caylee~angel at 11:26
Exactly. That’s why LE needs to know the family’s DNA. Or at least one of the reasons.
Keeping up,
No matter what age you are, child are a big responsiblity… And your right, there are young mother who take very good care of their children….But, its true to say, that the growing population are not ready for a child that they have to care for 18 years…Thats a long time to care for someone other then yourself. Especially at a young age..
I guess what I’m trying to say is that it’s understandable that Tim’s excitement about the search or kind of excitement about the search is (sometimes) severely tempered by more of a realistic knowledge of what could be found than any of us really have. We haven’t seen what he’s seen.
We haven’t endured the disappearance and eventual discovery of a murdered daughter. He has.
It’s a miracle the man can smile at all and I am amazed that he can do this work day after day. God bless him.
mytwo: I see a level of sincerity, enthusiasm and dedication in Tim that to me is far more important than âexcitement.
In allie’s defense and because I was a part of that convo..I am sure she feels the above, overall we are looking up to someone we trust to give a glimmer of hope…
mytwocents said,in October 11th, 2008 at 8:24 am
I noticed that video as well! Monster was clinging on Robert Dick like she was going to the prom or something!
I always felt like RD was putting monster in her place whether she liked it or not!
M2C,
I agree with you.
Taken DNA from all the family members is pretty well standard in this type of investigation. What is unusual is a family member refusing it.
Tim Miller did not talk 5 hrs to C & G. He talked to the count for 5 hours. Tim suppose to talk to C & G today.
I think Mark Nejame has done some good work behind the screen already keeping C & G(and himself) out of the media. There is no reason for C & G to go down with M.
and what a truly selfless, wonderful, caring and thoughtful man he is. ONe that had seen the worst kind of crime and live through it. Tim is one strong man!
Alabama – ” I believe, there are, ANGELS AMONG US”…sent down to us, from somewhere up above.
Karen and Simon – The GPS confusion was probably caused by – When Padilla bailed her out the first time the company putting up the money insisted that a GPS device be added along with the ankle monitor.
When “Anonymous” bailed her out this last time they did not require one. I am not pleased with “Anonymous” for a variety of reasons so I would not be at all sorry if she took off on them.
hi snooky
caylee~angel said,in October 11th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Very well said!
I don’t think the ants will ever be able to cover all the lies and mistruths they have embellished this case with.
It really looks like monster didn’t care about Caylee and C didn’t care that monster didn’t care.
Snookers – I am dying to know what in the world could possibly be discussed for five hours between Count Dracula (and Tim) or between Tim and C&G. I’m worried about Tim. I guess he can take care of himself but I’d feel better if he walked into a meeting with creeps like that (Nejame and the Ants) with a heavy hitting lawyer of his own or even tough guy Padilla at his back.
caylee angel i wrote you another email and as much as i really want to chat more i have to go and rest.. this bronchitis is getting to me. i will keep in contact with you and answer all the questions… my daughter has wanted to contact dr phil but my grandson won’t go… perhaps after reading my email you’ll probably understand
Morning M2C,
Always love to hear your perspective on my posts…
I do argee with you about Tim Miller. It may not be exciting for him to do recoveries on missing victims. And I don’t mean to sound like a layman here. Its easier for me to speak out loud then it is to type out….You know?
Hi Caylee Angel,
Wow , 3 teenagers and 2 toddlers. How on earth do you have time for blogging.?
caylee angel.. i will chat with you soon have a great weekend… buy everyone…. i’ll be back later
mytwocents said,in October 11th, 2008 at 11:42 am
Maybe it was more of an argument, maybe dracula was telling tim where to search or to look only for a Live Little Caylee
InfoOverload,
Those who have access to all the news on the web, the local stations, the news articles, etc… get a little bored with NG at night when she mostly recaps what we already know. But I have her show on 3-4 times a night, mostly just listening, to make sure I got my facts straight.
If I were in an area where I could get no news, NG would certainly be my source.
If you want the latest breaking news on the case sent to your email addy, then sign up for a google alert, type in Casey Anthony or Caylee Anthony, and all news of the case as it happens – from the web, TV, and newspapers – will go to your email.
M2C,
I would not be surprised if Tim discussed with Nejame how to proceed if he finds remains of Caylee. And how C & G should be notified.
Simon,
I believe that Leonard Padilla has a law degree. His background is in law so I’m pretty sure he knows what he is talking about.
SMILES…waves bye bye
I’m pretty much aware that almost everyone on this blog has been following this case from the start like I have. So what I’m wondering if anyone remembers in the early stages of this case, when some videos were shown on NG (I believe) of the ants doing their on search in their back yard? Looking under the playhouse. I’ve been searching news webs sites to try and locate that clip but didn’t
snookers,
” I would not be surprised if Tim discussed with Nejame how to proceed if he finds remains of Caylee. And how C & G should be notified.”
Thats sounds like the only reasonable answer in this matter… I don’t think Count has the GPS on Caylee. Yet! ( humor)
gumshoe…laughs..I have this case on google alert too..but alas…I come here first and google the case usually first thing…so the alerts when i get to em are old news too…lol
Yeah, Angel I’m going too….
Bye- bye
snooks – could be but how long does it take to decide how c and g will find out when tim finds the body….i heard it was only 3 hours last night on ng..tim said it was 3 hours but even so…that’s A LOT of talking about more then ..informing c and g..there is so much going on behind closed doors..we only know half of what they all do…and less then that of what m knows…but it’s all coming down the pike…and moving fast..
I just have a couple of things to say
1)When Padilla first bailed Casey out the whole time he was there he never said she asked him to bail her out or that she would talk that was what he was assuming, but now he is changing his story(another reason i don’t like him)
2)The Zenaida Gonzales that is suing Casey propably will not win based mostly on the fact that all the time Casey was reffering to the babysitter she was say Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales and this Zenaida has no Fernandez in her name(mothers maiden name neither so can’t use that)She was asked by another person who interviewed her why she filed under the Fernandez Gonzales when that wasn’t her name she told him to speak to her lawyer.
3)The decomposition band on the hair samples that all experts say can only come from a dead body not true. One of our bloggers from the other blog pretty much put that to bed(sorry Kris.
Kris said,
in October 10th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
It is possible to have a band of decomposition show up on a hair follicle even if the person is not deceased (very rare but in certain circumstances it can occur). I know this because I had one done on myself. I have had many surgeries (14 to date) and have been put on many meds afterwords mostly heavy duty antibiotics, and even though the doctors cannot conclude which, they determined it was either the anesthesia or the combinations of meds but my hair was consistently falling out afterward. Changed texture too like it was dying to the rootâŠso I had someone look into it professionally (lab wise), and that black band showed up on many of the follicles..not all but quite a few.
LOU…I think paddy (illa) bounty hunter doesnt’ get the respect he deserves..you remember how much flak he got when he first arrived on the scene..I mean they attaced him on NG and everything..he stuck it out..didn’t lash out…has kept on informing us to a point and I think he comes across at being very reserved and intelligent..cowboy hats don’t make people stupid or scripted in ANY way..That is just stereo-typing and judgemental
hello caylee~angel
dak – just get outta bed???…howdy!
What does that mean Caylee~angel
Lou,
Looks you are right. Leonard has a law degree since 1980. Also , looking at his bio he must by close to 70 yrs (Airforce 1957-1963) . He centainly looks a lot younger IMO.
dak –
1) Paddy didn’t have to tell us why he was bailing her out or what she said to him…telling us after the fact does not constitute a “change of story” does it?
2) The suing Zanny – Don’t give a rats’!
3) Death band not always from corpse – maybe not and prob. highly rare cases it might..
point – cases prob. didn’t involve chloroform,hit’s by cadaver dogs and comp. searches on missing children and noosing teddys.
point – I doubt that Caylee was high doses of meds at the time of her disapperance..
End…your points although true on a seperate note..don’t wash with the big pic. of the case.
Well thats just my thoughts and some facts to go with it. And by the way the hair samples could have been Caseys’s or another family matter or else why would thay want all the family’s DNA to compare to the samples.
dak – pretty sure that the reports have been that the hair belonged to caylee as C did give them her DNA from a hairbrush that belonged to the baby
Way, way back, I thought there was a rumor that it was Baez who contacted Padilla, either directly or thru a third person, to bail M out. And it was Baez who conviced Padilla that it just would be a week or though to find Caylee with M’s help.
Anybody remember that?
First of all, if anyone believes a thing Casey says, they are stupid, her dad must not be a good cop if he can’t figure out what’s going on in his own house. if she goes out on the street in Florida, she better have protection. I don’t think she is well liked there. the only innocent people suffering is Caylee and the neighbors. put her in jail so the neighobors can have some peace. she’s safer there anyway.
Each piece of evidence when woven together=Guilty Murder 1 for Casey Anthony.
Sorry, Jose not even the O.J. Dream Team could win this one.
Caylee Angel,
I believe you are right on the 3 hours and not 5. My old brain sometimes falters.
Tim is a very gentle person. He bears no grudge against C & G ,regardless of his previous treatment by them. It makes sense to me that he had a pow wow with Nejame about C & G. prior to talking to C & G.
Based on the very few interviews Nejame has given, he came over that he(Mark) also believes that Caylee is dead.
Caylee~angel the reason I mentioned that about Padilla is to show how uncredible he is. He said she asked him to bail her out when she didn’t, just makes me wonder if he lied about that what else he lied about. I’m not with all these people who hated him for bailing Casey out and badmouthing him the whole time and then when he changes his mind about her and revoked the bond started pretty much singing his praises. I never did trust from the moment he said he could find Caylee in a week. I’v noticed that most people go after and abdmouth anyone who is in any way connected to the Ants and praise everyone that is against them and even those that were on the Ants side and turn go from being hated to being liked and its not fair.
People have faith that Tim finds Caylee’s body soon, so we can lay this sweet little angel to rest. If you can please send a donation to Equuearch.
The charges against M. are concrete, and she will be punished for what she did to her baby.
Keep the faith that good always wins over evil.
Gale, one of those videos you meantion of the search of the backyard is on Gretawire. The Ant’s took Greta through their house and out into the backyard. They showed Greta the shed where the gas cans were, the sanbox, the playhouse, etc…but C only pointed in the direction of where the dogs hit on the smell of decomp.
The video is still on Gretawire, but it is condensed.
I distinctly remember Cindy and Greta in Caylee’s BR, and C showing clothes in the closet of Caylee’s that Casey didn’t take—that Cindy said something about washing Casey’s pants AND FINDING A BLUE SHIRT IN THE FLOOR and didn’t say what she did with it. I have never found that info again anywhere, and it’s not on the condensed video on Greta’s site.
The shirt hasn’t stuck with me because I think it had decomp on it. The way C told about it (and so briefly) was like she just picked it up after Casey had left on July 16 and washed it after she got home from work (as anyone would do)
But I have always thought that maybe that was Caylee’s shirt, maybe Caylee soiled it somehow after Casey left with her at 12:50, and she had to go back to change Caylee. Maybe that’s when blind rage took over right there at the house.
We will probably never know.
Sorry, for the typo. Please send a donation to Equusearch.
Dak – I think you are misquoting Padilla and mixing up what was said when. The bottom line on that situation was that he gave her a chance to get out of jail and help to find her daughter and she did nothing. End of story.
I think that Padilla believed M and Cindy at that time and was eager to help find the child. But then he was faced with NO help from M and Cindy which was very soon followed by evidence of decomp in the trunk. And that was it for him. He felt the child was dead and he was both grieved, disappointed and disgusted (with the situation and with M and C). And he still is.
I don’t recall how paddy came into the pic..do remember public asking why he would come all the way from california to florida for her…that’s when people jumped to conclusions and started judging his motives and attacking him.
I don’t know who contacted him or he contacted..I do remember him saying that he feels she just needs out of jail and he was very confident she would talk..
Gumshoe,
We also never know what was taken out of the pontiac by C & G. What was taken out of the duffel back that Lee picked up from Tony.
Why Lee went over to Tony that same nite on the 15th of July to pick up M’s stuff and how M’s laptop suddenly lost a month worth of info.
I do suspect that the deletion task could be dated/timed and who had access to the laptop at that time.
Hi Gum
I remember the interview with C. and Greta.
Good theory.
mytwo – said well…we can get caught up with he said she said but there is always a bottom line…and with that..the truth
Gale at 11:46
That’s partly what I’m afraid of but even worse that Nejame could threaten Tim with a lawsuit for any kind of reason a slimeball like Nejame could come up with.
On the other hand Nejame may have been trying to act as a mediator to smooth over the damage that loudmouth Cindy did when she lambasted Tim. After all Nejame’s job is to protect C & G from legal problems starting with improving their terrible public image.
gum – anything is so possible at this point with all the time we have had to sift through the lies and what little truth we have.
I thought that the chloroform could have been the murder weapon at first, then thought she used it after the fact as a cleaner, where she could have tried to clean up any evidence without a trace using such a toxic agent..
having said that…I would like to know the date of the chloroform search as it would have had to be after June 16 for that to be true…
If the date of the search was before the 16th…I feel it was that which killed the baby
MTC how am I misqouting Padilla its exactly what he said I just went back and read everything about when he bailed her out. He came down thinking she would talk if he let her out. She or nobody connected her (Baez, C&G) ever said she would talk but he said on NG that SHE said she would talk and she didn’t . That was him lying. I don’t know why people are so hung on everything he says especially when all these same people hated him and and sais he was a Media whore and should go back to CA. Boy it sure doesn’t take much for someone to change their mind that quick, and all these people are naive to believe he is still involved because he cares. He is only in it for the pblicity especially since his show ent bust and is looking for a way to make up for. I for one am not going to fall for all the media crap and Padilla. He’s in it for the money like everyone else make money off a trgedy but for him its okay talk about double statndard. And if anyone believes for Padilla there is no money involved found out how much Nancy Grace is paying him.
Oh and I did a check on NG on Wikipedia and I can say I didn’t find anything that makes her such a great person especially when she has been known to hold back eveidence in a case she was prosecuting. And embellishing things about her Fiances murder when she wrote her book. Yeah a real role model way below that standards of Britney Spears(hah). Maybe if people started doing their own research on people they so admire instead of what is being said by media(political candidates especially) people may start making more sound decisions on who they listen to and believe.
dak – easy does it on the bashing…save it for m, at least padilla see’s m for what she is and what she has done. We don’t know what was said…there we go again with the bottom line thing…he tried to get her to talk, and she wouldn’t..surprise surprise…
I think we all want the truth, and if you or I put bread on the table being on tv doing and talking about something we believe in on top of it..so be it. We all have more then one intinerary for any decision we make..are we all perfect and honerable 100%..no..but our hearts are almost always in the right place..just like paddy and NG…
Thanks gumshoe!
I was looking for that video everywhere.
Caylee~angel I’m not purposely trying to bash Padilla but just disgusted that people would defend him when is no better than the Ants. He did lie to NG about her saying she would talk. He’s the idiot that assumed she spill her guts but now he’s a good guy BS. He is no better than anyone else. And the things he says on NG I think are things he makes up or is scripted to say. And it has to be for the money or else why on NG every night. (i’m not fooled.).
dak – what’ in your history? Nobody is 100% angel but our little children. However, I bet your closest relatives ( the media) would point out all your best traits!!!
Just trying to get your to see these people are human beings too…not just devils in disguise..
Personally I think he is still only interested in this case so it will make a good book for the $30000 book deal he signed. So its not okay for the Ants to make money of a book deal but he can BS.
Hi Catherine. I am going back and forth between this blog and the new blog Simon posted today and I must say I am not a good juggler.
well paddy is the only “IDIOT” that at least believed c when she said her daughter needs to be out to help find her grandaughter…he lied but he tried..you must acquit!
My closests realitives are not the media. I don’t really have cloes relatives as my family really wasn’t that close.
I guess my real point with Padilaa is that people shouldn’t hold what he says as gospel so to speak. People tend to believe everything he says.
Dak – come one…it’s the ants grandaughter,…paddy is not directly involved..
I have nothing against anyone of the ants making money on this deal and I have said this before…
ONLY IF THE BABY IS FOUND ALIVE AND M IS INNOCENT…
If m is guilty..(if..lol) and baby is in fact deceased, nobody especially the ants should ever spend a bloody red cent off this.
dak – just follow the hypethetical point
dak – cause paddy is the ONLY one that seems to say anything with conviction and probability..he doesn’t come across as bullshittting.
very well said caylee~angel
also i don’t think padilla in it for the money. i think he want’s to help solve this case just like the rest of us..
i also think paddy has a reason for everything he says and does
Caylee~angel no offense against you but you are proving my point that people are so okay with Padilla that are willing to defend them. There is nothing he says that makes me think he is really caring about this case. Its all about money.
gale – thanks and I believe paddy is sincere and is working very close with Tim as well. If they weren’t woven from the same cloth, Tim would have nothing to do with him..I don’t know this for a fact, but I feel that Paddy and rob dick are really narrowing down the search area for tim working hard on cell pings around the airport and where she was when her cell was uncharacteristically ( whew big word) out of commission for 3 hours on I think the 17th of June
Gale get real real everytime he appears on NG he gets paid and he’s on almost every night.
dak – No I am proving my point…and as a woman, sometimes we don’t need “proof” that someone is genuine.
NG pays every guest on her show. Baez, Padilla, Cindy Anthony, defense lawyers, Baden, all of them.
I would be glad to go on her show and give my theory. But because she hasn’t asked me,(wonder why?) I don’t really care what anyone else gets paid for being on there.
NG has high ratings, meaning many people like her show. And she has given news on this case that wasn’t available at the time she gave it.
dak – do you get paid for the work you do everyday?
dak, what if he is getting paid he may be donating the extra money to tim miller in help of the search
**available anywhere else at the time she gave it.
bottom line again…who cares who gets paid..we all need to pay the bills and eat….the biggest one of all..
where is caylee?
gale – seems like some people only form opinions on what is on paper…paddy prob. is helping in the funds department with tim and ES. Just because it’s not reported on must mean it’s not true…LOL
thats right gumshoe,
I think ng treats everyone fair
Don’t worry Gale none of his money is going to Tim. If he was really sincere then why didn’t he and his nephew some of the $500000 to Tim.
By the way he lied about his TV show the bounty hunter that was canceled.
abosulety caylee`angel
some people have a satisfacty amout of self esteem they don’t have to brag about all their good deeds
NG is far from treating anyone fair. Half the people she has one especially defense or people with comments she doesn’t like get cut off in mid sentence. Maybe you should check out her bio on wikipedia like I did then you might have a differebt opinion.
NG is a pitt bull with a heart after justice…that’s all I need to know…hey she pee’d me off last night when she interupted Tim cause I would hang on his every word…but I still think she is a true advocate of all crime victims…as is Tim..both with a personal story of pain and crime on the ones they loved…these are the best advocates cause they have that drive for justice..
dak how do you know for a fact that he didn’t?
gale…yes and I do NOT feel that paddy needs the light…he just see’s it..
Dak – with all due respect…we don’t all need to check out bios to form an opinion…actions speak louder then bio’s..I don’t care.
I dont care what people have in their past..their successes their downfalls..just like I said I felt sorry for G cause I feel is NOT involved and wil do right by caylee…someone posted don’t you remember he threw his father through a glass window…
so what…has nothing to do with what he is facing right now nor do I think he deserves to been thrown under the bus for past actions…
maybe that’s because when she ask a question and the person changes the subject she cuts them off to get them back on topic
but when she did that to tim miller, i don’t understand, maybe she was afaid for him to give to many details
caylee~angel said,in October 11th, 2008 at 1:19 pm dak – do you get paid for the work you do everyday?
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I think I missed your reply!
caylee~angel said,in October 11th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
excellant point
gale – I think Tim can really get off topic cause he was talking about the meeting etc..which was not the question…NG wants the answer directly…it’s only an hour show..so I now why she does it and it’s not to be ignorant..Tim would be the last person she would disrespect…and that was not reported on from the press…I JUST KNOW THAT.
True Caylee but if more people did check people out before they believe evrything that person says or just because they like them they would probably make different decisions about them . Take the presidential election i did checks on all the Candidates and I was going Obama but after reading his background and instead of just listening to what he syas or what media says I have based a different opinion and may be changing my mind and if more people did it then maybe we people in the USA could make a better decision about who to run our country instead of listening to all the bashing and mudslinging we see on tv.
After reading about NG and her career and attitude and all I don’t think she is any better than BB.
I don’t work right now.
Dak – I get your point to an extent…but I see no reason to believe Paddy is not sincere. I feel he has credible things to say and wants to see m fry and find the baby as much as the rest of us.
back to the bottom line…LOL ( sorry )
Dak – maybe you should call NG…I hear she pays people who appear on her show…sorry you had that one coming…LOL
Dak – your just jelous everyone loves nancy…
caylee~angel, i’ll bet it’s more difficult than it looks to keep everyone on topic. sometimes nancy grace’s show has so much information i wish they would extend the hour to 2 or more hours like the night monster got arrested, that night my addrinling was over the top! lol!!
dak – oh come on! NG not better then bozo…NG is NOT the one defending Monster
dak, we don’t have your bio to read. Are we also to not believe anything you say until we read it?
Not attacking–just asking.
gumshoe you are too funny!! lol!!!
gale…was the best yet the night she was brought out in handcuffs…all on NG…I too was over the top..was great and all cause we all know she did it…but let down to find out it was only about the fraud..
Think they willl be able to televise her being taken away for the real deal? What a burn not to see that
So what I guess any lawyer that defends Casey would get the same treatment and get criticized. And by the way NG couldn’t pay me enough to go on her show and the only reason i watch her is because I get the fun of yelling at the tv.
My wife watched one night and said she was ver rude.
just because monster and the ants are trained and experienced liars dosn’t mean everyone is…
I bet C has birthday parties for caylee while in jail like susan smith…and get’s special permission to marry a pen pal in a secret ceremony.
You can read whatever is on my myspace and believe what you want. i personally don’t care if you believe me. And by the way it doesn’t have anything to do with believing someone completely but putting them on a pedastal and defending them when people say bad things about them.
I feel sorry for the Ants, not for Casey.
caylee~angel, i hope the next arrest is as… or more exciting than that one was.
Probably dak. Probably it wouldn’t matter who defended Casey. Because the majority of us here have been on this case since the beginning and with just the evidence that’s out there, and our mother’s hearts, we think she is guilty.
(yes, yes, I know you don’t believe all the evidence either, but we are choosing to)
Without a body I feel that anything that was produce so far could have (possibly not defenitely) been fabfricated or be false positives.
don’t get PO’ed at me dak. I told you I wasn’t attacking. Just debating. I respect your opinions because it’s not fun when everyone agrees.
dak – yes anyone with any kind of morals and brains can see monster is guilty of plenty including the demise of her child…any lawyer who takes that on is only in it for the fame..doesnt’ give a shittt about the baby only the rights of M..Yes she has rights…but who can defend with all the actions and evidence..espeically how distraught she looked at target…bozo had his fame by that point…if he was smart he would have dumped her then and there…in the court of public opinion after seeing all that..and still defends her..
I dunno…he would be better off dumping her with dignity in the public eye then to lose a case with the label..sleazy loser…
So bottom line…yes any lawyer that would “continue” to defend her will get the same treatment in my opinion.
everyone, i’m more of a mother to my two dogs than monter or c ever appears to be to each other or the little darling caylee..
Okay caylee~angel what you just said makes me think that she shouldn’t have a defense attorney
Dak – that is why the state is bringing all that fabrication to a GJ? Cause it’s a lie?
Dak,
On NG, an FBI agent stood up for Padilla when another man questioned his reliability. Unprompted, the FBI man emphatically said he’d worked with Padilla on many cases over the years and that P is a man of his word.
I think Padilla has proven his motives for bailing Casey out. He said he wanted to find Caylee–said he’d been told that Casey would talk to him. Truth is that when evidence was released that Caylee was most likely dead, he backed out of the deal. To me, this means he was keeping to his word.
Another related issue. How do you know what was said to Padilla? Were you there to hear it? (please note: it’s not my style to ask this, but this is what you always ask of others, and I wondered if you’d asked this of yourself).
My point is that the public was told that an attorney REPRESENTING Casey, through a third party who lived in NY, contacted Padilla, requesting that he bail her out. Many speculated the third party was Geraldo, since shortly after, Baez was video’d in NY on Geraldo’s sailboat. Since the 3rd party remained undisclosed, he has not spoken out to say Padilla was lying when he said Casey said she’d tell him. So how do you know? (Am I missing something?)
I’m not a Padilla apologist. I have, however, changed my mind about him. I didn’t trust him at first and was frustrated that he bailed Casey out. But he has proven to me that he truly cares about Caylee.
–Also, I never got the chance to mention that you have a very nice myspace website, Dak.
Dak – did yo miss the point where i said she has right?…yes she does..doesn’t mean bb has to ride it out does it..
sorry..has rights! I did say it…i didn’t say she didn’t i was simply giving my opinion giving the damning evdidence to date, on what I thought would best for bb to do.
I never said she doesn’t deserve an attorney either
Concerned no I wasn’t there everything that I posted was stated by Padilla to the media.. They were his words. Caylee~angel if you had actually read my statement I said possibly not defenitely fabricated, which means I never said it was a lie. God people quit misintereting things.
Well you said:
any lawyer who takes that on is only in it for the fame..doesntâ give a shittt about the baby only the rights of M..Yes she has rightsâŠbut who can defend with all the actions and evidence..espeically how distraught she looked at targetâŠbozo had his fame by that pointâŠif he was smart he would have dumped her then and thereâŠin the court of public opinion after seeing all that..and still defends her..
Sounds that way to. Or do you have explaination as what lawyer should defend her, because I’m sure with any lawyer it would be the same thing.
dak, she should have a defense attorney. The legal system we have isn’t without flaws, but it is the best in the world, and I am thankful for it.
As a citizen, Casey has the right to a defense lawyer to speak in her behalf. She has the right to remain silent or plead the fifth. She has the right to a fair and speedy trial. She has the right to every defense tactic at her disposal.
She will be able to exercise all her rights.
Caylee had the right to live and breathe and grow into a woman. She had the right to stay safe within her family unit. She had the right to marry and bear children. But Casey took that right away from her. Whether by neglect or murder, Casey took Caylee’s rights away.
That’s why we moms have a hard time seeing Casey exercising all her rights.
I disagree. I did not dislike BB in the beginning.
Somebody has to defend M, no matter what. Besides, there is something unsavory about BB. Besides I donot care for apparently incredible stupid people in a profession that requires some brain power and favorable PR..
Always admired Johnny Cochran tremendously , eventhough he got OJ acquitted.
Love to see a “good’ defense lawyer in action or a “good” prosecutor or a “cool” judge.
My point Caylee~angel is no matter what attorney would have taken the case they still would have gotten bashed and criticzed by the public. So maybe he is probably the best for this , because any other lawyer probably wouldn’t have.
Dak – I do not know any lawyer that could defend that thing…which is why I drive a school bus..and am not a defender..I believe everyone has a right to be defended…but I don’t any lawyer that would want this case now!
‘caylee~angel, dak, gumshoe, snookers it’s been great chatting with you all about the case. i’ll go now but will be back later.
Hey M has two chances to get away, tomorrow when she is allowed out for church and then Monday when w/BB, do you think she will try to run?
Come tuesday she is forever penned.
Gum shoe…thank you..
bye gale
….but Baez is the only lawyer I have ever seen in a high profile case (or any case) holding hands with his client, or allowing his client to lay her head over on his chest when walking from the courthouse.
If people have a problem with the Judicial system or our constitution then find a way to change it. or deal with it. All the stuff people say about Casey’s rights(thay don’t like that she has any)or having an attorney(most people feel she shouldn’t be defended)kind of goes against the constitution or else they wouldn’t have such a problem.
gum- that’s all I think casey is entitled to is her rights cause the law states that…she at this point has and always will have more rights then poor caylee baby…which like yousaid, is hard to swallow her having any.
I don’t think Casey would try and run or she would have treied already.
Dak–Sorry, I don’t get it. Why are you flat out accusing Padilla of lying when he says he was told that Casey would talk to him? What are you basing that on?
You give the Anthony’s and Casey and Baez the benefit of doubt, so I assumed you would do the same for Padilla. You believe their words but not his? I’m genuinely confused, not misinterpreting!
Oh and whatever you read on Wikipedia may be true, but I suggest you find another source. Wiki has zero credibility (which is why students cannot use it as a source in academic papers). Anyone, even you or I, can write bios for anyone in the world on Wiki. Just pretend you’re an expert on a subject and write about it. No fact checking is done on Wiki. Some things may be true on Wiki but w/o the reliability factor, nothing can be trusted on its own.
dak m has more reason to run now than ever before.
BBL
Personally ,I really like Padilla. One cool dude.
dak – Your misinterpreting things here…don’t go off on changing the constition, we are not saying we don’t like “american constitution” we are simply voicing our opinons on the case. That includes alot of opinion not recognized by law or “the constitution”…see it for what it is…we’re not lawyers or big corporations..we are normal everyday people that see this case in all it’s ugliness and have the right to blog it off our chest..pretty simply..it’s not all about facts and rights…
i will be surprised if that whole family makes it through the weekend let alone come Tuesday..
dak – You might be right about trying to run already…but when she is facing GJ in 3 days..she knows she’s finished..i wouldn’t put anything past a cornered animal.
cj,
I’ll be surprised if the whole family doesn’t make a run for Mexico before Tuesday.
Does anyone know what date the chloroform searches were done?
dak – we cool?
Then Padilla can go get her backside, and bring her on in. LOL
Hi CA,
No, don’t remember.
oh yes…little do we know…zanny has provided the entire ant fam with fake id’s and their having a family reunion in mexico monday.
cat – hi – was there a date provided to public
What did everyone think of Linda Drane, the prosecuter for Orange County?
I think the date of the search for chloroform must have been before June 16…proving pre-meditaton and the proceeding for a GJ…why else would m need to look up chloroform..to clean her dirty dance pole?
CA,
There might have been on NG.
I think Linda Drane is fierce and knows her stuff. I think she has done her homework.
CA
You mean on M.’s laptop?
C-Angel and others–Personally I’m much more concerned about Casey messing with evidence or even worse, moving the body. She seems to like the limelight too much to flee, especially since I think she’s ABSOLUTELY sure she will not be convicted. I could be wrong. jmo
Casey has constitutional rights when charged with crimes. Right to speedy trial, to plead fifth, etc, etc. But we are all aware that in the past 30-40 years, the system has changed. Defense attorneys in the distant past in the US did not do what Baez and others do now. They used to protect their clients’ rights. Now they try to win cases, seemingly at any cost, moral or otherwise. And we all know why–fame and fortune!! This is NOT the way it used to be here in these fine United States.
We can both admit Casey deserves her constitutional rights AND demand that she not receive special treatment AND demand that her attorney do the right moral thing when it comes to an innocent 2-year old child. It’s not an either/or scenerio.
I think Linda was “effective” in making Bozo do his own research!
Gum,
Never lost a case, unlike BB.
Sorry–in my above post, the 2nd and 3rd paragraph should be addressed to Dak.
bozo doesn’t have time to his own research caus he’s too busy babysitting.
I have a question – OK, the judge says, casey take off your ankle bracelet and search. How about the people/person that put up the bond? Iâm sure they put bond because she was under house arrest – not too much danger of escaping. Isnât her bond $500,000? If it was my money I wouldnât want her one minute out of the house. They have more say in this matter than the judge, I would think..
c in t – I don’t think she is so sure of herself at this point…maybe earlier she might have been ..she knows she is guilty and without a body, a crime scene or a murder weapon…she is still going to GJ..I think she should be crappin bricks…
Catherine, I loved when the judge used the words “looks like you just need to do your own legwork” đ
c~angel, post to Catherine was supposed to be responding to you–
but Catherne, you can read it too. đ
Judge Strickland was brillant. He granted motions that were fair. The motions he tabled
meaningless, because after Tuesday they will automatically be denied since she will be indicted by the GJ.
gum – bozo wants everything handed to him on a silver platter…just like m has all her life..two peas in a pod
Laurie, the judge tabled the motion to grant her the chance to search. He hasn’t ruled on letting her go search. Grand Jury is Tuesday. If the grand jury finds cause for an indictment, she will be arrested then and there, bond revoked, a no bond put in place, and escorted to jail.
She isn’t going to have a chance to go search.
gumshoe….lol..I know…all good…
Cat – I too think so about judge…tabled was not DENIED..that could bite him or the state in the but if he did that…although I am sure he knew that which is why he tabled it in the first place…it was in his best interest..LOL
C-Angel – I’ll admit I certainly hope you’re right. The thought that a person possibly guilty of killing her child thinks she can get away it drives me crazy.
Laurie–the bondsman may indeed have a say in it because when he bonded her, it was under the agreement that she wear a monitor. But a bondsman does not have more power than the judge. They just deal with different aspects of this request: the judge deals with legal issues, including rights, court procedures, and the possibility of a suspect fleeing. The bondsman only deals with the latter.
someone posted last night..think it was gum shoe…that tabled meant
I DON’T WANNA TALK ABOUT IT NOW! LOVE IT!
Gumshoe,
I loved it when the judge said, Mr. Baez you wlll need to do your own legwork. Ok, fatty get out there and start running around maybe you’ll lose a few pounds.
good question Laurie
Hi Cat and Cit!
where ya been Cat?
hubby and grandson did some logging yesterday, and are stacking wood right now, will be here just for a few for now.
C~angel & Catherine,
I was just amazed that he kept arguing that he wanted all the searches for Zenaida given to him AFTER Linda told the court it was information out there that anyone could search for.
Then he argues, oh but they have done all these searches on different Zenaidas and there’s like over 500 Zenaidas and we want to see which ones they have done so we know which ones to do. (paraphrased)
DUH
Gumshoe — Oh I hope you’re right!!!
… referencing your quote: “She isnât going to have a chance to go search.”
CA,
I agree. Got to watch out for those appeals.
c in t – she won’t have a chance to search..the clock’s of justice are in motion…bozos motion not heard till monday earliest..
can anyone tell me if M is exempt from all proceeding concerning herself including a GJ?
cj — logging? Wow, that created quite an image. I tend to forget we all live all over the US. Howdy, from Texas!
Cj, Just alittle under the weather, but I’m great today.
cit makes sense to me..
cat yeah they all get fake ids and run off to mexico, lol
i agree BB NEEDS to do his own legwork, lol
CA
Monday is a holiday, Columbus’s birthday
C in TX,
even if the grand jury takes several days, the judge knew what he was doing by tabling the search request. He gave NO specific time on when he would rule.
He DID give the prosecution 10 days to hand over evidence. Ten working days goes to Oct 27. (even 10 days counting Mondays holiday and weekends is Oct 20)
The grand jury will be long finished by then. And the judge KNEW that after she is arrested next week, prosecution has to turn over all evidence anyway.
What Baez is calling a victory isn’t so much a vctory in my opinion. He won’t have in his hand anything he was awarded until at least Oct 20.
Tuesday is GJ day. looks like M. will just have to stay home, and wait for Le to come and arrest her again.
Catherine–glad you’re feeling better.
C-Angel — Hope you’re right and that “the” release never happens.
Catherine said something earlier that struck me. I’m too lazy to look up her quote but it was about having faith that good will overcome evil. And believing that justice will prevail. We all need to be reminded of this from time to time. (Thanks Catherine! I felt the tension drain when I read your words.)
GJ makes decisions very fast.
What the judge ddi yesterday will stop any appeals that they didn’t get evidence, weren’t heard on the search, etc.
Gumshoe — VERY good points. It is all a matter of interpretation. Guess this is another good example of SPIN!
c in t – yep it’s true..a little word called faith is hard to rely on but is always there for the believers..
C.I.T.
Thanks, I remind myself of those words daily.
something I think you are all missing. The Ankle bracelet doesn’t have gps in it. In court yesterday they said that’s why they needed info about her where abouts. Thats also why the monitoring person goes to the attorneys to check sometimes. If there was gps then they would automatically know she where she was. Her monitor only acts with the phone in her home, so if she left in the middle of the night an alarm would be sent ot LE. period if she flees then it becomes hide and seek. I agree that M loves the attention she is getting… but she loves her own neck even more. which equals flight risk.
I loved the way the judged handled everything yesterday. He is a wise man in his rightful calling, imo.
gumshoe – good point…he did only what he had to and did nothing on a high risk request with GJ in 3 days…he would have beena fool to grant it or deny it..he did the best thing…stalled…
interesting theory on daddy of Caylee….just theory of course
Gumshoe,
I don’t think he too fond of M. to quote Judge Strickland “The truth and Ms. Anthony are strangers” How perfect were those words. Bravo, sir
Does anyone remember the name C gave in police interview about the name of dad
CFC
Eric
concernedforcaylee–I don’t understand why they don’t switch monitors and give her one with a gps. If FLA doesn’t have them, I’m sure we could round one up in Texas and share it! Seriously though, I understand what you’re saying. I agree she’s a flight risk. I fear more that she’ll disturb the body.
Regardless, I do not believe she has the right or should be released to do anything in secret, much less return to the scene of her crimes, including the places she lied to police about and/or where she left Caylee.
Catherine–I need to remind myself daily, too. Maybe tape it on my bathroom mirror!
gtg run errands. Very nice chatting with you guys. bbl
C4C,
everything she did this whole year appears that she was running–running from parents–running to a ‘beautiful life’–running form reality.
I agree. She would run.
Padilla doesn’t think so. A lot of people don’t think so. But I think she would use a bathroom stop to run as fast as she could to anybody she could charm until she found a way to get lost for a long time. How would she fund it? Same way she funded everything else. Sex and theft.
who wants the state to spend all that time and effort for m to search, with (cause it has to be in secret) a GPS just so she can ram the roads…what is the point…she can’t do anything to add to the case..she only knows how to destroy …if she was gonna help LE she doesn’t need to go out and search..it’s so damn ridiculous…she just needs to tell LE where to go..she knows where the baby is…jsut more bullshittt coming from a desperate baby killer…
right and she says M told her Eric died in a cr crash in N.c. or tn. am I right about that part
CIT
I think the concern is for her safety. There are many people that would like to get their hands on her.
CFC
Your right.
Name of dad in the Cindy video is Eric Baker.
On Casey’s computer was found Eric James Baker.
Don’t remember if C gave a middle name.
Other forums list it as Eric Lee Baker (a real person who died at age 24 in Aug 2007 in NC)
on M laptop there is a r.i.p info about an Eric James Baker with dates that make him about 24 years old.
hat is right gumshoe. I found an obit last night for him and he died in 8/07 not long after Caylee’s birthday. Only a summary obit so no idea of cause of daeth.
CFC
I would tend to believe that is him. I wouldn’t be surprised if an attorney hasn’t contacted his parents about filing a wrongful death suit against M. for the death of their grandchild.
oh I am sorry…wasn’t it Jesus..oh hes’dead..now it’s eric baker..oh he’s dead too…truth..I think not
Catherine,
look him up on Facebook. (all the key players have facebook accounts) There is a pic of him, but so small I can’t tell if he has those huge Caylee eyes.
Did Eric go to school with M at Colonial High School?
True about law enforcement probably knowing that. What I found interesting is that alot of us in here keep thinking its l is daddy because of the name CayLEE. this would also fit with this guy. Padilla himself has also made statements that theyknow who daddy is and he is dead. At least that was one of his earlier statments
Catherine — True, from Baez and Casey’s perspective, the concern is for her safety. But from the rest of the world (essentially), the concern is that she’ll repeat similar behavior that she’s shown in the past.
If I were the judge, I’d say, ok, if you’re truly concerned about her safety, then you have two choices: Casey can either remain at home and draw a map of the places she took LE OR Casey & Baez can ride in a marked or unmarked police vehicle, with a policeman driving, another in the front seat. Yes, that may be a bit risky, but Casey should have thought of that before she began to spin her lies (and do her deeds). In other words, she made her bed(S), so ….
ok, really gtg now. bbl.
There may be a yearbook photo of him.
what was the name of the guy that looks identical to caylee..it’s totally escaping me right now…but was said she only met him after caylee was born?
actually I am not sure I ever heatd the C say Jesus. I thought that was generated by media speculation
He would have graduated in 2002 I think
big brown eyes and the whole nine yards…not jeese not tony..but one of tonys rommies i think
Jees Grund is that the one you are thinking about
Brandon?
C,J, hated her
I SAID I WOULDN’T POST ANYMORE, SO CASEY ISN’T THE ONLY LIER………
Gumshoe said,
in October 11th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Hi Catherine. I am going back and forth between this blog and the new blog Simon posted today and I must say I am not a good juggler.
GUM, U R SO FUNNY. U R DOING BETTER N ME. I HAVE BEEN READING THIS BLOG ALL DAY AND I CAN’T CATCH UP. I AM JUST TO THIS POST OF URS. LOL
brb
But Eric was about 2 years older than M and I wasn’t sure from what C said if he graduated from that school or if they had know each other when he was younger. That he moved away and then was in town for a visit and they hooked up. Also M “thought” it was Jesse but she supposedly didn’t want him to take a paternity test. I think she was trying to pass the baby off as his because she wanted to keep her hooks in him. But that test ruled him out as the dad.
k, this is a stretch…reading the last posts etc..trying to wonder what the connection with Jesus said to be bio dad at first..mexican..cayle with big dark eyes…part Mexican?…and mexico connection to where ants say baby might be?
and Zanaida Gonzalez…mexican?
Is there a “real” mexican connection here?
Casey is NOT mexican but everything seems to point in a mexican direction?…
concernedforcaylee – I think you are right that poor Jesus was found by someone speculating on his time and location of death by car accident around the time M said the dad had supposedly died. His name was never mentioned by any of the Ants.
c4c – keep hooks in jesse maybe but also I think the real identity to this baby was never wanted to be known by anyone.
They say that C is a racist against hispanics as reported by the friend of M who wanted to adopt the baby. If you look at it most of her guy friends were not “white if you will” I think that M just used that tool to con the mom if that story about her is even tru.
i mean..ants never wanted anyone to know who daddy really is…
caylee~angel – Most of what points in an hispanic direction is blame! Gracias, Anthonys!
They better not be planning any trips to those places – justice is a whole lot rougher there.
As a mom I am not sure I would want to get a dad involved if I thought he might want to take away my grandchild. Who knows what that motivation is. And it is always possible that it is worst case scenario with L but I bet C & G didn’t know because if they had they could have had L take custody of Caylee and remove the powe M had over them.
c4c – just jogged my memory about that..i read m had an hispanic girlfriend that was NOT welcome in the house cause of C…she would not allow her cause she was ethnic…what a broad…
Even C told the police during the interview “oh his name is Eric something. I have it written down somewhere.” Just like M told the cops “I have his obit at home” but no name. At least that we’ve seen in the released docs.
Removing Caylee from the custody of her mother in a court of law would have been nearly impossible. It is really hard to get a court to decide that. And from what I’ve seen there just wasn’t enough proof of anything that would make a court take away custody – before this of course.
too bad that bracelet shes wearing doesnt have a hidden mic.
caylee angel take into account that the friend who states that heard it from m as the reason she couldn’t adopt her baby. That doesn’t mean that C really felt that way. Is Jesse Grund hispanic? He was allowed in the house and was engaged to C’s daughter and potential stepdad to Caylee.
Hi CIT
Yeah we have ten acres filled with Ponderosa pines, when we get low for our fireplace we take the ones that got knocked over in a high wind or even some left from ice storm back in ’96.. these beasts are 100 feet tall.
mytwo – yes blame is pointed in that direction..I think because it’s entirely possible c is racist…that m would do everytying in her power to make small victories in the battle with her mother who ultimately had all the control…even having a baby that looks like she coudl be part hispanic..m is def. a spiteful..bitch like she said..and coniving personality that goes way back…I think everything m did was to hurt her mother…and in the end took away what c loved more them m herelf..
True bud L has a job and stable environment(by appearances) M doesn’t even have much income. as was indicated by how little she contributed to Caylee’s financial support.
Hey MAMABEAR đ I knew you would miss us!
Let’s not forget that Cindy told NG one night at the beginning of all this, that Caylee’s dad was now married with a family and lived in she believed TN, and that he and Casey had decided he wouldn’t be part of Caylee’s life.
beast..they prob. have the phone line tapped why not have a mic. on the anklet? I don’t see the diff.
C4C, do we know L has a job? I never heard him say he did. Is it in any statement he made that I missed?
even if they did they could never use any info or evidence found because of illegal tapping.
M2C
Just one more thing about Tim Miller.
Why on earth would he need nor want the permission from the Ants to search for Caylee…It doesn’t set right with me the whole thing about talking to Count and now today the Ants..
They don’t want Caylee found! At least not dead…That would just make things worse for Momster defense. Plus the Ants didn’t respect the efforts before when they said those things about Tim personally.
Why does it seem that everyone involved gets stoned walled or a reasonable doubt.
Tim on NG said he was coming and not leaving til Caylee was found. That was on Tuesday or monday night.
Last night he said, they were going to hold back the search to reorgainize and regroup GPS notes and possible hold out for weeks.
I can’t think of any reason why he would have a change of heart, unless Count said something to convince him otherwise yesterday after his 5 hour discusion….
It been bothering since this morning, can’t stay now, but will check post later..
gum – is this dad of caylee hispanic or is he the Eric James Baker that is spoken of?
I think in his police interview they discuss they fact that he travels alot for his job. when they were discussing the last time he saw Caylee which would have been June 5th.
allie – you think the count has something to do with Tims’ possible 360? Has florida had much rain, i mean enough to support his possible retreat again..I said earlier…even 3hrs is long time to talk about how the ants wil be informed if tim finds baby’s bones…what else could they have talked about for 2.5 hours..
caylee~angel said,
Casey is NOT mexican but everything seems to point in a mexican direction?âŠ
even Jose’ Baez
ok, C4C, thanks–I didn’t remember that.
as far as Tim and the search goes the latest is that the ground was soggy, he was doing helicopter plotting and organizing a plan and was hoping to start Sunday or Monday. Don’t live in the area so not sure if there was any recent storm activity or not. But TIm is dedicated to finding missing children, his background as a parent who lost a child only makes him sensitive to the position that C & G are in and he is trying to tred lightly to spare them some avoidable pain. I think his intregrity is why above being swayed by anyone.
Gumshoe…no I know casey is NOT mexican…but you just blew me away …I didn’t even consider jose baez…isn’t it all a bit weird..
C~angel–which is another reason I think she would run for the border. Mexican law will not allow extradition unless promised there will be no death penalty.
C4C, thanks for the update on the search. I am sad they can’t search today and tomorrow, but hopeful when they do search, it will be a short search before finding her.
gum – think we’re on to something here…and your right…who the hell in their right mind would trust her…she is a cornered animal..
what was the date amy went to puerto rico…same laws? Coudl she have planned to murder the baby and take off with amy to P.R. before baby found? and just stay there…what was the date amy flew out ????
who thinks that LE reviews our posts?
I am LE…hehe
I’m worried about Tim and all those miserable hours with Najame (Count Dracula) and the Ants.
They could be threatening him or something.
Or maybe Dracula was trying to convince Tim to go search for a live Caylee in Puerto Rico.
Maybe the Count handed Tim a bunch of (bogus) tips of sightings all over the place that the Ants supposedly received. Or maybe the Count threatened to sue him? Or told him if he was searching just before the grand jury went into session it would be prejudicial. There’s no telling what a slimebucket like Nejame would do.
But I really don’t think that Tim could be put off permanently. I really do think if he’s postponing the search right now it’s the ground conditions and weather.
LE better be reading up..what better way to have brainstorming ideas and theories then to read the collective views of people around the world.
caylee~angel – I think M had to cancel her plans to go to Puerto Rico with Amy and friends long before – like June 15 when her mom found out about all the money she stole. That put an end to any travel. She wouldn’t have the money for it. So I think that was another reason M was so mad at Caylee that she killed her.
my2cents – that’s my point…m had to cancel plans to puerto rico 1 day before caylee last seen alive..could she not have still have been planning the murder and go on the trip with amy and stay there protected by their laws of no death pen. do we know when amy went to PR?
July 8-15 is when she drove Amy’s car.
And yes, she could have planned it that way because remember she wanted to go to PR also so bad and on July 8 wrote a facebook post to Amy saying :”puerto rico… has stolen my friends. we shall be reunited shortly.”
btw: on facebook, some of the key players have friends in Puerto Rico in their network.
I think the trip was for a week or ten days and Amy returned on June 15. I know Amy was in US for a 4th of July party so that narrows it down. Not sure where to look for actual departure day.Probably in Amy’s statement because I think M drove her to the airport – in Amy’s car of course.
c~angel,
you are saying she knew they were palnning the trip to Puerto Rico, she killed Caylee June 15 knowing about the upcoming trip, and the trip to Puerto Rico was what was going to give her an ‘out’? Right?
this is where c gets her theory that baby is in PR? Cause M “loved that child” and she could never hurt her…or face the fact that m was so jelous of the attention that baby caylee got she could not see how much M didn’t want her around…and would kill to get the limelight back…
well, and I think Padillas said or hinted that Casey has told Cindy she was in Puerto Rico since she has been on house arrest.
hi everyone,just cant get my head around the fact ants are not co-operating with the search team,if anything it proves their guilt,that they do know what m has done.
also hope judge doesnt grant her freedom to go out and retrace her steps cause only thing she gona do is run.
2C,
good points on the search post and the trip post.
caylee~angel – Sorry. Now I understand what you’re saying. But something kept M from going to PR. I assume a lack of money.
You know it really is weird that M did not run away to some place during that 31 days. Her mother couldn’t find her and wasn’t seeing Caylee during that time anyway. Did she really think she was going to get away with it? Was she planning to play the “mom of a kidnapped child” forever in private to only her family? She obviously thought she could stop her mother from calling the cops – but oops – her timing was off on that one!
Is her “sociopathy” that extensive that she could think she’d get away with it – without planning a half-way decent “excuse/story?”
I don’t know what I am trying to say other then I think, yes, maybe m had planned to do away with baby and go on trip and stay there..not sure how it all fell apart other then the fight between c and her…and she still followed through with getting rid of baby even without the escape of PR and the laws
hi minnie…you come to relieve me?
Minnie it doesn’t matter what the judge does. If she is indicted on Tues. or Wed by grand jury she will go straight back to jail.
2C,
I don’t think it was just lack of money to get to Puerto Rico. Remeber on myspace and/or texts, she was telling Amy she could come down after they were already there–on a later flight. AND she had the $400 cash she stole from Amy AND her checkbook. She could have gotten there.
I think what kept her here was Tony. Remember she said to LE that instead of reporting Caylee missing on June 16, she went to a ‘Neutral place–a place that was safe–Tony’s apt.”
Tony became her fantasy saviour instead of the trip. She busied herself daily buying groceries, cooking, cleaning, doing laundry, giving him sex–and the partying at Fusian’s and the other clubs was just too much in line with her ‘beautiful life’ fantasy.
I think she was so caught up in her fantasy that she was no longer a mother, but a free single woman, that she just procrastinated every day–putting Caylee further and further in the past–until she believed her own lies. That Caylee would never be found. And if she was, a story was in place.
If that was M’s plan why didn’t she go she already gotten rid of Caylee by July8th. That part makes no sense to me. I think she had other plans maybe in Ca.
The guy in California that she had been chatting with, sounded like she was planning a trip out there to tell him somtething in person.
hi minnie–
C4C is right. She isn’t going out searching. Judge hasn’t ruled on that and didn’t give a date when he would rule on it.
nah, i don’t think m would want to stay in pr because her friends wouldnt be there with her forever either,
she thought of her friends like a posession when on her face book she wrote that “pr stole her friends away from her BUT they would be reunited again…’
but I DO think m wanted to escape to there and thought of it in her weaved lies for Caylee to be there… what w/her weaving in of truth to mostly lies..
yeah funnny ow she said Caylee had a hispanic dad and then hires a hispanic atty, whew. she is pure evil to do this to her mom.
well, i know my post is delayed, i am working and making home made apple pies, crust and all homemade from our granny smith apple tree..
I am saturated with all of this…thinks I might just need to take a break…make some supper for the rug rats and bbl…but ottawa senators are playing tonight..will try to spread out…and be back later on…
thanks to all for the chats..
Hi Guys,
I have a problem with Puerto Rico as a safe haven for murderers. Mexico, South America yes.
M would not be protected by PR laws since US Federal law applies.. PR is an US territory and the people are US citizens. It is not an independent country.Puerto Rico would be just as safe for murderers trying to escape American justice as the states of Georgia or Tenessee for example.
thanks cj. Now I have to leave for a while and go have dinner, thanks to you posting about homemade Granny Smith apple pies. đ
Be back later all.
you are right snookers. Also discussed whether you need a passport to go there Which Caylee didnt have
hi ca,you keep on going,lol,you guys are on a roll 2day.great comments and the more i was reading ur thoughts on the pr theory it could be a real possiblty that m could of been planning to stay there.did she think she wld get away with it?yes dissapear away have the party life,no snothead draggin her down,no nagging mother to listen to.can anyone tell me how much money she stole from ants?
on one of her ph, conversations with who -ever? she says “she is close to home ”
also , i remember Cindy saying”” “Casey Knows who has her””well thats denial ( i have a niece who is in great denial ,over certain issues in our family , not criminal as such , she is always in denial Never admitts to anything ,that every one else KNOWS is the truth lol her opinnion is always different ,
The Law Enf, do not pay too much attention to tabLd news, they are doing a great Job
we must keep hoping little Caylee will be found
snookers…read your post, I now that I heard something about I believe it was Ireland being a country to which they will not allow extradition. I know I’ve read a few other cases where suspects on the run fled there, it was a huge to do to even get to them and the government allowing them to bring them back here.
rumors range from 25,000 to 45,000 but that could have been over a long period of time. and alot of it I think was charged on credit cards not neccassaryily cash
waves to minnie, and raises a stout
Canada is another who will not extradite if death penalty is involved
That girl was like dealing with the daughter from hell. Can’t even imagine how the parents didn’t get her in line long ago with all the crap she pulled. First time they realized something criminal happened they should have put out a pins warrent to haul her in even when she was under 16 years of age. That may have straightened her out a bit.
hi c4c,now that is good news of the possiblty that by next week she could be back behind bars
fingers crossed.
When will she be put into the general population..anybody know? Do they hold an obligation to keep her isolated until after a trial? Or can they throw her in the clink with all the others now?
but I think her thoughts weren’t to leave the country. Remember if she dissappeared before they got a hold of the car and M had been gone alot of this wouldnt be happening. Would C & G have called the police based on the car or was it after she had M and she wouldn’t take her to Caylee what if C hadn’t found M that day would she have called the police
The US has extradiction agreements with most countries. However, most countries donot have death penalty anymore(none of the western european countries do or any EU member). They will not extradite to the USA unless there is a “no death penalty agreement”. It is against the law in most countries to extradite to such a country if death penalty is a possibility.
I doubt she will go into general until after the trial. They will still have to treat this as a high profile case no matter what. Then if she got death penalty they are not in general pop ever.
florida has the death penalty right?
I’m pretty sure that in the other cases I read, that Ireland was not just doing that because of the death penalty being imposed I think it was because of other govenmental reasons…I should read up on that again, but I know it had something to do with political hard feelings “so to speak” with america if I remember correctly it was termed something else.
hope she get’s life…in gen pop…that’s MY bottom line…
YEs they do that is one of the things ng said the other nite is that proceed in Fla is to go to gj with murder one or death penalty cases
ca..”street justice” will get her no matter what LE does.
Wow….alot of awesome blog comments today. Caylee~angel, you were doing a good job of holding your own with Dak! He tries to give a good argument, but I would have to say….you did well!
imo…..the reason Tim met with count is several reasons.
1. Tim Miller is an awesome person and is willing to allow anyone who wants to give input on how to find Caylee, a chance. Regardless of how C treated Tim, in the past, Tim is obviously the better person.
2. I believe it was a “PR” move by the count to try to show that the Ant’s ARE trying to cooperate. (just like Baez’ move with M now..)
3. I believe Tim discussed with the count, what his plans are to locate Caylee and that he STILL believes that Caylee is deceased and that is how he will proceed. And, I believe that Tim discussed with the count and the Ant’s what they should be doing to prepare themselves to accept the fact the Caylee may never come home. I think he tried to relate that to the Ant’s in the beginning but they weren’t willing to accept it then. just in my opinion kinda by what Tim said on NG last night about “the future”.
Everyone’s comments have been good today!
I like Paddy and NG both. Don’t always agree with what they say or do, but they are informative to say the least. Spelling, grammar, accents, are trivial comments to the past Simon made. His article had much more to offer than just those trivial things. Haven’t commented much today, just enjoying reading all of yours.
Dak, Here’s what I remember about Padilla. He came down here on his own free-will with intent to bail out M. It took longer to get her released b/c Padilla wanted to meet with BB (after arriving) and it is my understanding that Padilla bailed M out after coming to an agreement with BB, that he would have access to talk to M (as long as BB was present) and THAT never happened, until Padilla threatened to take away the bond. Padilla talked to M once, and felt she was not going to tell the truth and be helpful (she asked Padilla to get out of “her” house) and therefore, he was going to rescind the bond. Maybe this is all speculation but If I have to pick someone to believe, it would be Padilla over BB.
other bottom line in my opinion..c and g could have avoided this whole thing…not to say that they are responsible for monsters actions but they could have put an end to monster before she put an end to caylee.
hi everybody. just reading all the posts good reading all. i’m a little sad today i was all hiped up to go search today but tims not ready yet. did you guys know that there going to search for jennifer kesse too! i just love tim and esearch!
monsters cat and mouse game with the law is about to get her “eated by a kitty”
i met kesse’s mom at walmart last year what a beautiful person!
I think Padilla has some good info and good instincts. But he is human too and does err like all the rest of us.
just a little humor here. my hubby is a die hard football fan but he tells me if they were to start a search sunday he would like to go with.. we allll love you caylee!!!!!
hi kris,ireland does allow extradition to america now as they have signed a treaty,most suspects that run to here are from uk were there was no treaty between them but think thats changed now.
When IS the search going to start? Anyone know?
anyone know if they ever searched the land fill? I awalys thought that the car being parked right next to the dumpster at amscot was significant.
no kris. but waiting on pins an needles
Thanks minnie..if that’s true you just saved me some research.
I thought Tim stated in an article earlier today that it could be sunday but most likely monday.
When they search…what type of signs would they be looking for I wonder. I mean..so much time has passed that even if she was originally buried the ground may be hard packed by now and covered with leaves possibly.
c4c,thats alot of money was gona say what the hell did she do with it but we all know that answer.
beast,cheers dont touch the black stuff myself but il raise my wine glass to ya!
good question. I would think signs of recent grave, articles of interest clothes, shoes, trash stuff like that. Also with all the changes because of water and stuff you could have erosion around grave site and things that were buried before could be uncovered now.
some of money could have been charged to credit card so had to spend it at stores
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Kris..good point..any disturbed soil 4 months ago will not look disturbed anymore…??? Anyone know if cadaver only pick up scent of decompostion in progress…like would cadaver be useless when searching after all soft tissue is gone?
ur welcome kris plus we dont want her running over to us,if she does il drag her straight back myself!
no because they have talked about the success of uses dogs even years later where most likely it would just be bones
c4c – awesome..
gonna go for a bit…bbl..
yes I think people really underestimate how far science has come in helping LE crack big cases. Obviuosly it is easier and more reliable the earlier you start the search and the other factor is the training of the dogs and the handlers.
gotta run pick up my son will be back later. as always lots of intelligent conversation here. plenty to think about. Hagd all.
gotta go 2 guys..bbl
oh wow. i finally catght up with the post. my eyes hurt. this is a great place to lurk. thanks all for posting. helps me turn stuff over in my mind.
hey missed ya Kris!
Okay what did m spend the moula on,
for one, breast implants and for another
tooth veneers, another was her tatoo,
she blew through the money alright, bigtime!
I wondered myself WHY DOESNT TIM GET HELP w/ CADAVER dogs wouldnt they run straight to lil Caylee once they set the dogs loose in the area they have narrowed down to???
Sharon thats kewl you met Jesse’s mom, you are reallyc lose to the Ants house aren’t you?
One thing you dont need to worry about is the ground freezing like it will soon do here!
Just have a second to post, but I’ve been meaning to post this for days.
MAMABEAR – first, hello! Second, did you say that you have eyesight issues and must copy all posts to MS Word before you can read them?
If so, have you tried making the website page larger?
If you don’t know how to do this, then just let me know (or others who may know) which browser you use and what version (ex: Explorer, Vista). I will be more than happy to find out how to enlarge the page (words), so that you won’t have to continue doing this.
I know the steps to take for my browser but they are all a bit different.
One last thing–if typing in all caps is easier and faster for you, then please by all means type in all caps! We’re nice folks here and will understand (and not accuse you of ‘hollering at us!). đ
Not meaning to interfere–just trying to help out our MAMABEAR! đ
bbl
MAMABEAR..NOTICED YOU WERE IN CAPS TOO FIGURED IT WAS AN SIGHT ISSUE…CAP AWAY.
hey Texas missed ya again,
i posted earlier about our ponderosas, right now amd fixin to put the home made granny smith pies in the oven đ
AHHHHHHHH!!!!!! U B SO SWEET CIT. THANK YOU. I HAVE INTERNET EXP BUT DON’T KNOW VERSION
THANKS CA. I LOVE ALL U GUYS. I HAVE BEEN IN PA. FOR A YEAR NOW AND IT IS A VERY NEAT EXPERIENCE. I MOVED FROM SAN ANTONIO TX. SON UP HERE. I DO MISS TX BUT ON THE OTHER HAND I LOVE PA.
gums, i totally second this as to why m decided not to leave;
“Tony became her fantasy saviour instead of the trip. She busied herself daily buying groceries, cooking, cleaning, doing laundry, giving him sexâand the partying at Fusianâs and the other clubs was just too much in line with her âbeautiful lifeâ fantasy.”
ok guess evryones gone eating dinner right now lol
CFC,
Yes, forensic science has taken giant leaps since George was a cop(in the 80’s I believe).
I think that the trunk stain, life and dead maggots/flies will prove beyond reasonable doubt that Caylee was(dead) in the trunk. They can even detect/locate the DNA of a human in tummies of maggots, I imagine. Sounds like a yukkie post but so glad they recovered that trashbag from the trunk. The body farm would have tested most of this stuff I believe and it takes quite some time..
So much of the good solid evidence has not been released.
Wonder when BB receives it , we will hear a different tune out of him and attempts to plea bargain might occur.
Mama i have explorter too, try this, in your status bar the the topm click on the VIEW and when the box drops down click on TEXT Size and you can adjust the size from there.
cj and gumshoe – Yes! I agree too. And thank you for reminding me about M saying she went to a “safe, neutral place.” You bet it was safe from her MOM!!!!!! And “neutral” because no one at Tony’s would notice anything wrong about Caylee not being there.
LOVE’S MAMABEAR TOO..YOUR SWEET..XO
I WONDER LIKE SOMEBODY ELSE POSTED TODAY WHAT THEY TOOK OUT OF THE TRUNK AND DUFF-BAG BEFORE THE COPS WERE CALLED.
snookers i too have thought of the bb wanting to plea bargain but i think they will be denied sicne they didnt take it when first offered..
snook – I always appreciate your opinion I knew nothing about maggots and flies and tying to baby def. being dead..kinda throws the theory of the death band on the hair being possible from live person..if they can link the insects to a body that can’t be found.
OMG CJ. WHAT A DIFFERENCE. THANKS SO MUCH. STILL ISN’T AS BIG AS WORD WITH 16 BUT WHAT A DIFFERENCE. NOW I’M NOT PLASTERED TO THE MONITOR. LOL
cj hey left for a min had to water plants outside. but yes i did meet jennifer’s mom they were doin flyers i just wanted to keep hugging her. i think when you meet people in person it’s different then when we blog about them. she was giving every one big bear hugs! i can’t imagine losing one of my children. especially to rape murder ect. i really don’t think i could go on.bless all of the caylees jennifers in the world they will never be forgotten!!
cj – Oh my favorite scent in the world is pines. Can I come over and just lie down in the middle of your beautiful ponderosas!! … just for an afternoon? I swear I’ll leave after that! đ seriously, sounds truly lovely, cj.
Pie sounds yummy. I’ve bought apples to make one but haven’t accomplished it quite yet.
MAMABEAR– I have Explorer, but it’s Vista, which is the newest version (and a “pain”). I know it’s different from all previous versions.
Here’s what I do on Vista:
>> Go to arrow next to “Page” (top right)
>> Go to “Text Size” in the drop down box
>> Choose “LARGEST”
I can’t remember off hand how to do it on earlier versions but I’ll research this, in case that’s what you use. In the meantime, maybe someone else has a previous version and knows how. One way or another, we’ll figure it out. ok?
oh yeah–try this, just to see….
Hit “Cntrl” (and hold it down) and then hit “+” (keep repeating, if it works, it’ll keep getting larger)
(in many programs, Cntrl + makes item larger, and Cntrl – makes it smaller)
Let me know if either of these works.
cj I agree…m had her chance on a bargain..she’s now going down with BIG GUNS
CJ,
I think M already had picked out her next bed partner, that Wil guy.
EVEN WITH THAT DEATH BAND THANGY THERE IS STILL A CERTAN PRECENTAGE THAT IT IS DEATH. I THINK IT WAS KRIS? WAS FROM INFECTION FROM THAT GAUZE THEY FOUND. SO THERE HAS TO BE STATS ON THAT.
WIL?..sure she woulda done rob…but he shut her down…with all her yappin “to” him in the car everyday down to bozos
snookers which guy was will i forgot been so many?
MAMABEAR…I GET YA..PROB. STILL 99% OF DEATH BANDS MEANS DEATH…THE OTHER 1% MEANS INFECTION
For anyone interested in news on EquuSearch there is an article on wesh.com It’s the 2nd of the top stories. Click on # 2.
Title is:
Texas Search Team To Help With Kesse Case
Equusearch Juggles Caylee Anthony, Jennifer Kesse Search Efforts
oops. didn’t see cj’s post to Mamabear.
MAMABEAR – I just tried Cntrl + and wow, if you keep hitting the + (plus) sign over and over, it just keeps getting bigger. You can make it way larger than a 16 font. I made it so large that one word took up the entire screen. scared me! lol
Cool, hope it helps, MB.
I’ll be back later! You guys are posting great stuff today!
They were offered limited immunity and turned that down.
Cannot really plea bargain till you are charged , which will happen next week I suspect.
Any “good” defense lawyer will look over the evidence/assesses it severity and advises his client on what to do.
With BB , it is hard to tell how he will proceeed.
WHOLLY CRAP…MY LETTERS ARE GIANT…I HIGHLIGHTED A POST AND HIT CONTROL + AND IT’S BIG…DID YOU GET THAT MAMMA BEAR
Good afternoon ladies!
There are some great posts today! Looking forward to outcome on Tues. but worried monster might try to run that day while everyone else involved will be pre-occupied that day….All she has to do is get to Mexico (24 hr. drive from Orlando) to escape the death penalty. Can’t say JB would assist but he might just “look the other way” while she slips out the back door. Guess he’ll be “babysitting” Tues. anyway. ….I feel certain however that C would aid in everyway possible to get her there.
MAMABEAR..IF IT GET’S TOO BIG DO THE SAME THING BUT HIT THE – BUTTON NEXT TO THE ZERO..IT WILL GO SMALLER BUT ONLY HIT IT ONCE OR TWICE AND SEE WHAT IT DOES…
Sharon,
Wil guy = William Waters
Also noticed earlier on blog request of name of guy that looked a lot like Caylee.That was JP Chatt, roommate of Ricardo/Amy
SNOOK – thank you..jp chatt has he ever been excused as bio dad?
THE CTRL + MADE IT SO MUCH BETTER. WOW.
Caylee Angel,
They have much more than just the hair strand of Caylee, to prove she is dead. We just have not seen it since it was not released to the public.
mamabear…can you see this ok?
OH. VERY GOOD SNOOKERS. THANKS. YES CA. I C U. THANKS
Mamabear..saw you just moved from SA…I lived there too for a long time…
WHERE U KNOW MAN?
Austin…
OK.
Hi everyone!
Any news on the search today?
I DON’T SEE ANYWAY OUT FOR M UNLESS SHE OFF’S HERSELF.
Caylee Angel,
JP Chatt is not even on the witness list. Based on Amy’s testimony, donot think JP knew M that long to be the daddy. I suspect just another unfounded rumor. Besides , he is still alive. Looks like most suspected Daddies have conveniently expired
SHARON……… I AM SO PROUD OF YOU FOR GOING THERE TODAY.I KNOW YOU WERE COMFORTED BY THE BEAR HUG. I CAN ALMOST FEEL IT MYSELF. THAT’S SOMETHING YOU WILL CARRY WITH YOU FOR LIFE.
mama bear not to be nosey well ok i am wondering is there a papa bear and any baby bears?
LOL SNOOKERS.
snook – laughing…your right..who would think baby’s daddy would actually be alive…
PAPABEAR DIED AND THE BABY BEARS ARE ALL GROWN UP WITH BABY BEARS.
MAMABEAR,
I am in PA. Near Gettysburg. Where are you located?
RV,
NO TES search yet commenced as far as I can tell.
THERE IS SOMETHING TO THIS STORY THAT WE DON’T KNOW. SOMETHING THAT IS GONNA SHOCK US. LIKE WE NEED ANOTHER ONE.
mama you are so right i dont know if you misunderstood no search today. was talking about meeting jennifer kesse’s mom but will help search as soon as they give the word.
Thank you snookers…that’s about all I’m interested in… don’t care too much about her lawyer, or even her…just would like to know if they find Caylee and that the grandparents are doing well.
AM CLOSE TO DUNCANNON. DON’T KNOW WHAT LITTLE TOWNSHIP OR HOLLER OR WHAT EVER I AM AT. LOL
IT IS SO DIFFERENT HERE THEN IN TEXAS. WISH I COULD TELL YA’LL JUST SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES.
mama? how many grandbears do you have?
WELL WHERE DID YOU SEE HER? AT A MEETING. THATS WHAT I MEANT. READ BETWEEN THE LINES WITH OLD ME…….. LMAO
I’ll bet I can guess some of them Mamabear…the weather for one
mama you near butcherhaller? lol
mamabear i’m just playin with you!!
OOOOOOOOOOOH. BACK IN THE LOOP HERE. I MEANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT GIRL. HOPE I DON’T GET KICKED OUTTA HERE BUT HERE GOES….
DO YOU ALL THINK THERE MAY BE A CONNECTION BETWEEN HERE AND CASEY?
mama met her at walmart they were handin out her pic and flyers jennifers.
No way would monster do anything to “off” or harm herself…she loves herself too much. Too bad she didn’t love little Caylee that much.
Sharon I commend you for joining in the search efforts when they take place….thank you for that.
mamabear what? confused
mandi thanks . its like i wanna go right now and get started.
I understand…I would too…I feel helpless being so far away but I would help anyway I could if I were close by. Do you live in Orlando proper or just nearby?
Hey guys maybe the “shock” evidence is where M really was for the last 18 that she pretended to work. How often did she leave Caylee with another person beyond C. IF alot and there is no person who has come forward to claim to have babysat Caylee before “zanny” then maybe the choloroform goes back to a year or more ago. That would go beyond thinking accidental death and could lead to capitol murder charge. They could say that after a year of drugging her M got tired of it and decided to end it once and for all.
I PLAYING 2. JUST HANG ON TO THAT HUG. HONESTLY -SOMEWHERE IN MY BRAIN I THOUGHT IT WAS JESSE’S MOTHER. OK YA’LL CAN LOL AT ME. WON’T HURT MY FEELINGS. 4 KIDS
I HAVE 10 BABY BEARS. AND I HAVE HAD SOME REALLY BAD EXPERENCES WITH MY BEARS. AT THE TIME THINGS HAPPENED IT WAS A NIGHTMARE.
BUT NOW THAT I AM OLDER AND LOOK BACK I SEE ALL THE GOOD TIMES.
I HAVE NEVER BEEN ON THE NIGHTMARE THAT HAS FALLEN ON THE ATS THO. AS A GRANDMOTHER AND MOTHER I CAN SEE WHERE C IN COMING FROM. CRAP WHO WOULD EVER IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD EVER DREAM THAT ONE OF YOUR OWN CHILD KILLED YOUR BABY. AND YES IT WAS C’S BABY. MAYBE SHE DIDN’Y HANDLE CASEY THE WAY WE WOULD HAVE. BUT I AM HERE TO TELL YOU THAT YOU GET NO GAREENTE WHAT YOUR BABIES WILL GROW UP TO BE.
LMAO…… SHARON DON’T GET LOST…….. LMAO
I AM FOLLOWING YOU
mamabear…thank you for sharing your wisdom.xo
C4C…but if the search for Chloroform on her pc was recent, like just before she went missing, she might have just started using it…and perhaps it was a first time thing and she OD’d her on it. But, I’m leaning toward premeditation myself, IMO.
C4C U R THE VOICE OF REASON. COULD BE THAT. HMMM CAN’T WAIT TO FIND OUT.
mandi i’m about 15 min’s from m’s house .if they search by the airport i’m about 30 min away.no big deal i could ride my bike there. thats how bad i wanna do this.
I just think it is strange that we have no idea what M did from april 2007 to June 2008 seems to me she claims to have been working tons but we know she had no job?????
Guys..I love spending time with all of you and I have been on this site ALL day…I am gonna go for now…see ya all tomorrow..night night friends
I hear you Sharon…I heard rain is expected there for the next few days, is that why you think the search for Caylee has not resumed yet?
BYE-BYE
Actually C4C, she was fired in April of ’06…so that’s even more time that’s unaccounted for….more than 2 years! How could you live with your parents, a former cop at that, and they NOT KNOW She didn’t even have a job! That just wouldn’t be possible with my kids….
C4C. BET LE KNOWS. BOY DID YOU HIT ONTO SOMETHING.
mandi i think tim has 2 searches to do caylee and jennifer. i heard last nite he wants to go over the airport area see if they should resume there. and then start with jennifer.
Mandi I am sorry you are right about 2006. Don’t know about should C & G have known. She was stealing from people so there is reason to think she could have money at times to make them think she had a job. Be if she were say pursuing not so legal career she would have had money. But you can’t do that with a baby around.
SO THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN JENNIFER AND CASEY?
not so much the rain i think he is starting to organize you know i heard he met with the ants atty today for quite a while. does any one know what that was allabout?
I heard that as well on NG Sharon…Does it seem like they are deliberately waiting until after the GJ on Tues and that’s why he’s conducting search for Jennifer first? I’m sure you get alot more news on this locally than we do from afar. Actually, we don’t get any news on the case here all weekend….
Not really except to perhaps heal some old wounds on the advice of their attorney, Nejame. Tim met with him for many hours yesterday as I’m sure you know. That’s my guess anyway and perhaps planning ahead logistically in the event little Caylee is found…
no mama jennifer has been missing for 2 years. kidnapped murdered but tim will be searching for her also.
SO???? CASEY WAS AROUND THERE 2 YEARS AGO
I think Tim is just trying to be considerate of their pain. Having been there himself I think he just wants to show compassion. They should look at it like this. IF they search these areas and find nothing wouldn’t that eliminate the question.
MAYBE THAT IS WHAT THE COPS ARE WITH HOLDING.
really the biggest news we get on the weekend is when the protesters are acting up as you know they have been pretty quiet latley i think thats like the calm before the storm
unless it’s breaking news
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT SHE KNEW CASEY? AREN’T THEY LOOKING IN THE SAME AREA?
Time for dinner…maybe I’ll pop in later.
Have a nice evening everyone!
MAYBE JEN GOT IN CASEY’S WAY SOME HOW.
U 2 MAN
Thanks for that info Sharon….I thought it had been pretty quiet there but again, no news so I wasn’t sure especially since Fox left with their webcam!
See ya later..
guys help me with mama i think i have her really confused. my head is spinning. lol.
LMAO. I AM SO SORRY. I JUST THOUGH MAYBE CASEY KILLED JEN.
MAMABEAR,
There was a lady jogger murdered in blanchard park on the 10th of July by unknown criminal, I believe. Are you confusing jennifer with her?
BTW, Duncannon is a very nice area , you are only 60 miles north of me. Hope you are ready for the snow.
MAMABEAR, I really get a kick out of you. You have a dry sense of humor, don’t you?
Oh my, not 10th of july but 10th of June.
gosh mama i hope she did’nt .she is allready lookin at a life sentence. lmao!!!
MAYBE CASEY IS A SERIL KILLER.
howdy, still have dinner to make but the 3 pies are done “)) wish i could share with you all, thanks CIT for wanting to lay under my ponderosas, they are majestic! Maybe sometime we can meet under them and eat some fresh granny smith pie???
Cat and Snookers,, hellooooo
mama bear, you said you have ten babybears, is this bears and babygrandbears or????
Mama, also you had said ealrier;
“THERE IS SOMETHING TO THIS STORY THAT WE DONâT KNOW. SOMETHING THAT IS GONNA SHOCK US. LIKE WE NEED ANOTHER ONE.”
i think the shocker mamabear JUST MIGHT be if we find out that m’s brother lee the papabear to Caylee!
hi cat help me with mama! lol!!
DON’T KNOW ABOUT MY SENCE OF HUMOR. I LOL ALOT.
4 BEARS AND 10 BABY BEARS. LOL
mama you crack me up!!
Sharon,
MAMA doesn’t need our help he could teach us a few things.
Wouldn”t they be cubs MAMA?
LOL CAT
LMAO You answered my final question. Thank you.
mama do bears shit in the woods?
U GUYS HAVE TAUGHT ME SO MUCH TODAY AND I THANK U ALL. NOT MANY YOUNGINS WANT TO PUT UP WID OLD WOMAN. FER SER YA’LL HAVE TURNED MY BRAIN OVER A FEW TIMES. I LOVE SEEING YA’LLS THOUGHT ON ALL THIS MESS.
Sharon I am VERY proud of you, gosh you are soooo close to the ants, do you drive by much? You prob never were out protesting? lol
I am proud of you for helping with the search, Lord knows we would all like to help too, but i am but 3000 miles yonder!
i’m . sorry getting off track
Sharon,
I think you know what I know.
CUBS—-BABIES
WE ALL SHIT IN THE WOODS. TOILET PAPER HAS GOTTEN SO HIGH OVER THE YEARS. SURE GLAD I DON’T HAVE MANY BEARS IN AND OUT OR CHARMIN WOULD HAVE TO USE ME FOR A COMM. JUST SO I COULD HAVE TP. LMAO
I would like to know if Bears smoke cigars?
cj a month or so i drove by there just for a min i havent been back though it was really crazy then thats when all the protesting just started.
and Mama, i have 3 sibs and amongst us we have a baker’s dozen for grands to my parents!
cat my bulb just turned on? sloooooow!!
Does anyone know if the Washington Redskins are playing tomorrow?
LMAO Sharon
if cigars could start a forrest fire/
Sharon i think i’d drive by the ants every day lol to see whats up, or better yet, goin down lol
Yes, or just enjoy a cigar break.
its game day
THIS BEAR ONLY SMOKE CIGS. THEY SMELL BAD NUFF.
i know i was in orlando fri i almost went to court i could have seen bb.
Oh MAMA I just love the smell of a good cigar. I don’t like cigarettes.
SO YA’LL DON’T THINK CASEY AHS ANYTHING TO DO WITH JEN?
DO YA’LL THINK IA AM BEING FUNNY?
Who’s Jen MAMA?
Cat you would think i would know since i am in WA but i dont do football..
i am in and out today posting so not up to par w/replies, sorry guys.
THATS THE FIRST THANG I THOUGHT WHEN I HEARD TIM HAD ANOTHER CASE THERE.
misprint i didn’t have to go to court. i was in the area.
THE 22 YEAR OLD TIM IS LOOKING FOR. SHIT I HAVE LOST MY MIND HERE?
Mammabear…maybe monster tried to get her to pole dance with her at one time or another…but I think they are two different cases just coincidentally around the same area.
Hello everyone, I’m back now and relaxing my aching muscles. lol.
You are funny MAMA. I like to read the way you post your thoughts.
cat don’t get mama started on jen again she will get so mixed up. as i am lmao fallin off my chair!!
Hi Kris,
More yard work?
THANKS KRIS.
CAT – THE WAY I POST MY THOUGHT ARE THE WAY THEY ARE IN MY BRAIN. ALL SCRAMBLED AROUND. LMAO. MY BRAIN HAS CHANGED SINCE I GOT OLDER. SENIAL (SPELLED)
Sharon,
Who is Jen?
Hi Catherine… the trench is dug and the stones put in, and even buried one of the kittys today…(hit by a car)…very sad, and I am very sore (absorbine junior)! lol.
Well MAMA how old is your brain?
LOL
WHO IS CASEY?
LMAO
Cat..I think Jen is another missing girl in the florida area Tim is searching for while he is there.
cat did you get a ticket for the game? so you can go whenever you want?? lol!
Kris,
Oh, sorry about the kitty. Poor little baby. Put some bath oil in the bath tub, light some candles, play some music and just relax.
LEGALY I AM 65 B-U-T I HAVE GONE DOWN HILL AND AM MORE LIKE 82
hi Kris
I am SORRY about your kitty, how many do you have anyway?
I have one, Ferdinand đ
Hey….Wait a minute! I got it! This will tie in perfectly with it all…Casey did Jen in, in order to steal her identity then move to Puerto rico or Mexico or wherever the heck she was gonna leave to. She could be that sneaky and underhanded…that would fit in with your thoughts too mammabear!
who’s your mama?
OOOOPS THAT WAS CASEY’S NUMBER. HOW BOUT I B 89
No, didn’t get any tickets. Did you? If I do get my hands on some tickets I’m taking MAMA.
hi kris welcome aboard. lol
WAY TO GO KRIS. SEE YA’LL. PLTTTTTT LOL
cj, we had 5 because we are out in the country. Now the 4 left are Ashley, Marble pixie, Cinders, and Raider (Raider is the only boy 6 mos old and got his name from stealing everyones underwear)…Raider of the “lost panties”..lol.
KRis,
MAMA is one smart person.
which is it mama 65 or 82?
MAMA your 89 years old. Well God Bless your sweet little heart.
I RAN OVER ONE OF OUR DOGS COUPLE YEARS AGO AND IT TORE US ALL UP. I STILL CRY FOR THAT BABY AND SHE WAS JUST A DOG. PEED IN THE HOUSE. GOT IN THE WAY BUT SHE LOVED ME AND THE KIDS AND WE LOVED HER.
kris how cute is that..
Raider of the âlost pantiesâ..lol
was it smoke related mama?
He is quite the character…(wink!)
sometimes when animals inhale too much smoke this could happen you know?
11 YEAR OLD G/S DUG A HOLE AND BURIED HER AND PUT ROCKS ON HER GRAVE. I WAS SO PROUD OF HIM FOR TAKING OVER LIKE HE WAS ALL GROWED UP.
AM I SPEAKING IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE HERE? I AM GETTING SO CONFUSSED. I AM 65 BUT LOOK AND ACT 89. OXYGEN AND WHEELCHAIR. MY HUBBY WAS 14 YEARS OLDER N ME AND E1 THOUGHT I WAS THE OLDEST. LOL
Hey Catherine…have you seen or heard from sabrina..haven’t seen her on here.
Tim Miller of EquuSearch is going to help search for Jennifer Kesse who was 22 when she disappeared nearly three years ago from her Orlando condominium. He’s trying to combine the search for her with the search for Caylee. Same basic area.
So no connection with little Caylee’s disappearance other than that.
I’m right there with you mammbear…I am 43 but feel like I’m 89 too. Too much happened in the last 9 years to me. I can understand and sympathize.
Someone on here earlier said that there were insects and maggots found in the trunk of the car? Is that true, was it released to the media?
THANKS. GUESS I THINK CASEY IS MORE EVIL THAN YA’LL DO. I WOULDN’T PUT ANYTHANG PAST HER. THOSE EYES.
Mama, your grandson was a sweetheart and a brave boy for helping out with poochie.
Kris, lets see you are 1 year older than my baby sis and 2 yrs younger than my other baby sis..
mama scroll up to 7;37 post my 2 cents hopefully you will now understand cause my head is a spinning.
mama did you read it/?
oh and me 53, naw make that 103 lol
Cj…As far as Physical wellness I am probably 4 years younger than your grandparents…lol.
THANKS I HAD READ THAT.
WHY DIDN’T YA’LL TELL ME NG WAS ON TV. GOSH…. I HAVE TO WATCH IT LATER. LOL
kris/ where is cat/?
Hi Kris, the bag did contain alot of evidence from what I understood, maggots and all…
CJ DID I PLAY CANASTA WITH YOU?
she may be trying to get those tickets
mama i think you are right every one is in front of tv
OH WELL, NG IS A RE-RUN ANYWAY.
I kinda thought Catherine hasn’t posted in a while..maybe she’ll be back.
mama and all see you later!!
by sharon..
Kris lol on age hey i do feel old too hon. Trust me, double chin and all, lol
So I gather..NG is on right now? If so, is anyone staying?
Kris,
I’m back and ready for some bear.
NG IS A RE-RUN FROM OTHER NIGHT. BYE SHARON
Just checking in and reading up on all your posts.
cj – thank you (sort of – LOL) for reminding me about the maggots. They would only be there for decomp type of residue. Not pizza. That’s another big check in the column for “there was a dead body in that trunk). Even C said there were maggots, didn’t she? In the 911 call or soon after?
BBL!
Kris, Cat was on earlier, but not yesterday and i havent seen Bri at all?
I am tring to figure out how to get instant messenger on here (if it can be gotten free)…If so does anyone know if you can only talk to others within that IM messenger group? Or how to get it?
(sorry for the stray…but the more info I learn the better.)
Kris,
Remember what you uncovered about a certain someone a while back, well I think we got another one in the house.
LOL
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Email me that Catherine…I’m feeling dense tonight…maybe I pulled a cramp in my brain along with my muscles..lol.
WHAT DID HE UNCOVER AND WHO IS THE OTHER?
Sorry, MAMA thought you said you were 82, your just a young sweet thing at 65.
OK Will do.
I am drawing a blank on Catherines statement too mammabear…maybe I’m just tired from all the work today. I truly don’t know what that was about.
82 WAS THE NUMBER ON THE HOODIE. THAT PART WAS A JOKE.
mammabear did you see the link to the video with the protestor dressed up as Casey? That was too funny..acted just like her too…I go to that when I need a good laugh.
yo, whose still here?
Kris,
You got mail.
I am..
Okay…brb.
NO I HAVEN’T SEEN IT. CAN’T GET FLASH TO DOWNLOAD ON MY PUTER SO I DON’T GET TO SEE THE VIDEOS. SURE WISHED I COULD SEE ALL OF THEM. WOULD KEEP ME VERY BUSY.
I know MAMA, sorry for the dis.
CJ…….. ARE R IN R.I.?
MAMA,
You ever been to Florida?
ARE YOU IN R.I.?
MAMA, what’s your real first name?
YES CAT. TALLASSEE (SPELLED)
you’re welcome 2cents but why run off? lol
Where is Tallahassee?
STARTS WITH A “V”.
FLA.
second letter A?
DO YOU THINK YOU KNOW ME?
mama, what’s cannasta? am i missing something.
Yep
NO. SECOND “E”
LOL WHAT A GAME.
For Sure I kmow you, MAMA
I USED TO PLAY CANASTA AT YAHOO AND PLAYED WITH A CJ. VERY GOOD CYBER FRIEND.
I’d like to buy a vowel!..ok..catherine where is Pat Sajak…lol.
Do you know me MAMA? Be Homest now.
mammabear..do you play any others at yahoo? I do Literati in there all the time.
mama i thought you said you were in PA?
i am WA.
Catherine you got mail.
Yes Kris there are two vowels.
cj – Had to do the dishes! Hubby’s happy watching cars go around in circles so I can stay for a few minutes then doggie’s got to go out!
NEVER BEEN TO THAT GAME KRIS. POGO FOR ZUMA.
I HAVE DYSLEXIA AND SOME GAMES WON’T GO INTO ME BRAIN. LOL
Then you’d hate that one mammabear..it’s like scrabble is but a little harder.
no mama i dont play any games online.
I AM IN PA. NOW. SEEMS LIKE I SURE CLOG THE SYSTEM WHEN I CHAT SO I WILL JUST BACK OFF HERE AND LET YA’LLS BRAINS REST.
HUGGS……….
I was wondering something guys…The maggots in the trunk of the car…Did anyone say if they were inside the pizza box, or just loose on the trunk mat..or didn’t they say?
I just have something lab related rolling around in my brain right now…I think the cramp is leaving..lol.
lol welcome back 2cents.
hey do you ALL think we should move to
118114 or better yet 118118 with LESS posts this ones taking me forever.
Kris,
Ok, answered.
I’ll go to wherever the waves float are boats to…as long as everyone is ok and wants to go there too.
interesting research how tall is M anybody know or have a guess
MAMA don’t go.
Kris, all I remember hearing is that maggots were in the trunk. Not specifically where.
When C tried to blame the stench and everything on the old pizza box that’s where it got confusing I guess. But so far I have not heard any details on exact location of maggots. And I think it was myfoxorlando.com that conducted two separate experiments locking a pizza in the trunk of a car for a certain number of days. Neither experiment resulted in such a stench or maggots as far as I know.
Kris, They never said where the maggots where exactly. Just that they were all over the pizza. What’s rolling in the lab area?
Somebody choose the article we’re moving to, okay?
I thought the maggots were in the trash bag and they were afraid to look inside. But when they opened the car a fly came out of the car. which would indicate how long it had been closed up.
I’m just thinking to myself about the maggots…I will tell you what I’m thinking once I confirm it with another lab friend of mine who has worked in forensics…sit tight till then, I will definitely share…
And while we’re on the topic, who the heck leaves old pizza in the trunk of a car? Especially when parking right by a dumpster?
Maybe there’s a clue there that we’ve missed!
Like she took a pizza with her to have a picnic while she buried Caylee? Any DNA on that pizza we should know about in case she had company?
concernedforcaylee – that’s right. Don’t flies lay eggs and then the maggots hatch or something? So wonder how long that takes?
are we moving gals?
I’m not moving, I would like to talk about this case so if anyone wants to join, ya can stay and hang here. From 5:54 to 8:18, very little was talked about in this case and I’m tired of flipping thru unrelated info.
c4c, didn’t LE go back later and pick up that bag from the tow lot?
Kris, curious as to your lab info.
A fly can lay many eggs…I will check on stage through the pupa, But if they did and the trunk was closed most of the time, the heat would kill off some of the parent flies. So bodies of them may have been found inside the trunk…Trust me…my wheels are really turning now.
yea I think that was what was talked about. Does anyone know if Tim searched for Jennifer before.
yes they did. tow guy tossed over fence and LE went later and were able to retrieve bag.
how many people carry a pizza in their trunk anyway???? Wouldn’t you A. (toss it out if it were old) or B. take it with you to eat?
anyone have an answer on M height.
THat pizza being in there may truly be there smoking gun in a sense. All I can say for now until I confirm my thoughts with another,is that I am really thinking right now…”Thank god for that rotten pizza being in there”.
Caylee has stolen America’s heart – see my 8:27 post re pizza!
Also, Kris, would there be maggots on a pizza? I thought they were only interested in flesh or poop and things like that. I didn’t think they’d be interested in cooked food but maybe I’m wrong. I did try to google maggots for you but couldn’t stomach the images and info!
Sorry I’m such a wuss!
Kris, I once heard flies only live a couple of days, if your theory is on to something, your right. I don’t know if flies do live long however??? Is your experience as a lab technician or other? Your wheels are turning….THAT’S good!
Concerned.. what are you thinking about with regards to her height? You could probably google it her arrest warrent, or the info and photo taken, it probably would be on there.
5’1″ 105 lbs.
Do you mean Caylee? 3″ 35 lbs
Well someone was asking earlier if there was a connection to Jennifer Kesse and M. I researched her missing info and all they is a fuzzy imagine of the person of interest in her case. COuld be male or female and person is about 5ft 3 to 5ft 5 approximate and person was wearing a cap of sorts.
I didn’t read much when I googled maggots but the important thing might be how large they had grown.
Also was there a way for flies to get into the closed trunk? Or are we talking about flies that got in there the last time the trunk was open (before car was found)?
sheesh ! long time to find you gals LOL ! how’s everyone ?
mtc, Once in a while, I’ve seen maggots in our garbage can. Not sure what all was in there, but I washed them out. They gross me out! Flies eat most anything don’t they? If so, wouldn’t they lay eggs on anything? I dont’ know……just guessing? What do you think Kris?
concernedforcaylee – Jennifer Kesse disappeared three years ago. There is no connection to Caylee except that Tim Miller is searching for both of them now.
Gumshoe did post this information a few days ago. The study was done on a pig.
trying to figure out if there is a connection but with friends they hung out together with or something. She working for a resort. M would have loved resorts
Hi Girlfriend
i think only blow flies make maggots, but i’m not sure about that…hi catherine and 2cents, kris, chsah…etc…to many names to spell out lol, but hi to everyone
actually Jennifer disaapeared Jan 2006
cfc, so does the image look like a female? Catherine, your on top of things! I wouldn’t have remembered either of their heights! good job!
My2cents…here is a very informative link which should not have any gross factor…but it explains alot by way of human decomposition, foul play/murder, and stages of the insect development. There are even precise cases solved listed in here and explains many, many things that I am thinking of right now. I will post the link below for anyone to view: just type http: (beforehand)
//research.missouri.edu/entomology/casestudies.html
hey there girlfriend, seems i’ve missed you for the past couple of days, sorry about that !…i just watched the new indiana jones movie, i really enjoyed it…i understand G will be testifying for the prosicution, i doubt if it’s by choice though
mytwocents I agree the connection would not be with Caylee but with Casey. while Jennifer was on vaction her brother had friends who stayed over in Jennifer’s condo. She dissappears right after she gets back from trip maybe on her way to work in A.m. No robbery, no sign of forced entry. How is Tim going to search for her if he has no point of refenence. Just seemed like a point to consider.
sabrina, Hi!
So are blow flies all across the U.S. or are they specific to a certain area (ie…Florida?)
Is there ever a mention of the pizza in the trunk with maggots except by the ant’s???
Hi sabrina…welcome.
CHSAH– THey do not nescisarily have to lay them on an object of food or poop etc…when we first moved here there was an overhead light in my kitchen (now cleaned and sealed with calk), but before this we could not understand why we would find maggots crawling on the ceiling…I cleaned out everything cabinets cupboards old food…nothing found. Then finally I spotted an adult fly crawling into the space where the light fixture was not but up against the ceiling and then leaving. I started watching it closely and lo and behold I spotted the maggots crawl out of there. So the mystery was solved. The light was taken down and cleaned thouroughly and I calked the crack against the ceiling..no more maggots did we find again.
hey bri, where ya been?
this blog is taking me forever so full.
The image looks like a slender person wearing a dark colored cap. Even the police can’t identify person. It could have been. I remember in this case a woman sees a person leaving the wooded area wearing a ball cap. that is why the question and the person of interest is small, and they happen to be searching for her at the same time.
who’s jennifer ? tim said the search for caylee wouldn’t start today because of the rain, seems the storm in the gulf closer to mexico is bringing in more rain grrrr, i wish it would stop so they could search
brb phone
this is the link to where I saw the pics and they talk about the case on 48 hours.
http://www.jenniferkesse.com/48hours.htm
Maybe has no relavence who knows but is an interesting twist she was a beautiful young lady
Sabrina, I’m wondering if G is just so fed up with everything and he really wants the truth to come out? I think he is more willing to accept that M is more responsible for Caylee’s disappearance that C is willing to admit. Maybe he’s relieved that he HAS to testify and that he is already on record so he HAS to tell the truth???? Remember when Padilla said that when the original DNA tests come back, all the Ant’s were going to be in for a surprise (except he didn’t name George). That just seemed odd…….Being an ex-cop, maybe his conscious is bothering him???? Just speculating……he seemed way more upset about Caylee being gone than C, M or L from the beginning???
Jennifer is another missing person in Orlando that Tim is coming to search for too. SHe dissappeared in Jan 2006.
hi back to everyone and thanks…i have been here and there on this blog, and posting here and there haven’t seemed to be able to catch up with you gals…seems every where i went i was a little to late lol, but was on the new blog and found out everyone was here, so there you have it lol…not sure about the blow flies, but usually they imply raw sewage or a dead animal atc…usually prefer to lay their eggs in soft moist tissue…kris i don’t mean to sound yucky, but it may have been a dead squirrel or something in your attic
There was another young lady from Ga that they thought could be taken by the same person but in that case they have dna just need a match to turn up in the system. There are people who don’t want there DNA tested for reasons.
Kris, thanks! that answers my question, I wasn’t sure.
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thanks concerned, i think i remember that case…at least tim said they wouldn’t leave this time without finding caylee…but sometimes you have to stop even if you don’t want to
is anyone going over to that sight?
What was the reason they asked for DNA from the ant’s finally? I missed that one.
chsah, i doubt it, he still has to live in that house, unless he’s moved out or something, even if he does want to testify, he’ll make the prosicution subpeniod him…sorry i don’t how to spell that word properly lol
No sabrina..so squirrel in my attic…They were and had been laying their eggs for quite some time inside the light fixture, it had a base and was an overhead..so it was flat, but it was not butt up against the ceiling. When it was taken down there was a great amount of them inside so they must have been doing this even when the previous owners lived here. We were just so perplexed for a long time with where they were coming from, because it’s not like this is an old broken down home, it is quite new in the year it was built and very clean and gorgeous inside. So that was where the flies were laying their eggs.
There is a general confidence in the air that they know where she will be found just need to get to it. I think the cell phone pings have given them a pretty good idea where to look. Interestingly they say she never strayed very far from a small area, so why did she keep running out of gas? or was the gas for something else?
i think i’ll go if everyone else wants to…i’ll follow…i was already there but found out everyone was here lol, but i’ll go back…you gals decide
to exclude everyone being the suplier of the hair found in trunk except for Caylee
at least that is the impression they are putting out for all of us….maybe there is a hidden reason.
Sabrina, your probably right. If they supboena him, it will make it look like they ‘forced’ him to testify and then the rest of the family can’t be mad at him!…..he doesn’t seem like he was ever able to man up to C or M. I’m not knocking him……they must have walked ALL over him. Do you think they will end up divorced after the case is done? Just speculation of course…
concernedforcaylee said,in October 11th, 2008 at 8:56 pm There was another young lady from Ga that they thought could be taken by the same person but in that case they have dna just need a match to turn up in the system. There are people who donât want there DNA tested for reasons.
Maybe this young lady is the reason Lee was loathe to give DNa…I know it’s far fetched but murdering gene pools can float around in any of the apples that fall from the tree. Anyone ever think of this, even though it may be a long shot.
hi all, I’m home and finally getting on and reading the days blogs… and chuckling alot..lol MAMA you are a gem!!… and 89 years old? did i hear that right?? 89 years wise… i have to goread about your bears..lol anything I missed today? I am baking brownies for my girl, i have 2 days off now thank goodness!@ sick of working!!
kris, i’m not doubting you, i just can’t understand what they were using for nutrients, what would provoke them to lay their eggs there
Kris, wonder if in this case, the flies were laying their eggs there because of the light and it being a nice “warm” place???? There obviously was no “food” in your light fixture??? Weird.
well that is a thought about L. the only evidence in the case in georgia is a surgical glove found outside the house with the DNA in it. Could be maybe L and M are a modern day bonnie and clyde???? maybe we are just getting tired and over loaded with info. anybody going to the other site? dont want to sit here and type to myself.
hmmm, not sure, i suspect he’ll be done with C, but then again i’m sure she’ll hitch herself to him and say you can’t leave me now…he might stay but it won’t be a marrage in thr traditional sense
I couldn’t understand it either sabrina & CHSAH, absolutely no explaination for it..But there were so many dead ones when it was taken down (definitely no food in there either)…I remember yelling, “DON’T TIP IT! DON’T TIP IT!” LOL!
Kris, anything is possible with this family! Why would one refuse to take a poly and a dna sample for any reason other than they have something to hide??? For someone who would like to have his niece found…..he HASN’T BEEN MUCH HELP EITHER….makes you wonder what’s up with him too????
didn’t someone say something about moisture, and temp being a factor maybe that was part of the reason. it would have been dark inside the cover and depending on area humid… was the house vacant before you bought it and moved in.
got rerun of NG on now…i really don’t like it when jane is on, she sort of bugs me a little for some reason
ROTFLMAO @ KRIS !!!! i would be screaming too ! with umbrella in hand !
Jennifer also had a tattoo. so maybe there is a connection with where she got it done at?
Don’t know much about Orlando to know if it is really big or what. In my town there is one maybe 2 places to get a tat.
chsah, i agree, why won’t LV take dna ? wierd to me
No The family lived here..they were down sizing to a smaller home. Kids almost grown and the dad retiring, it is truly an absolutely gorgeous country home, eveything is newer too, cabinets floors…beutiful! We just couldn’t understand it. I know the flies would occasionally get in through the french doors out to the deck in back when my little one would leave it open by mistake…but couldn’t figure out where they were laying those eggs. Now there has been no more problems since.
I just keep remembering the words about how “close” L and M were. How could they be that close to each other without kind of being the same type of person? Lee was really trying to get info out of M in his jail interview but he was being very secretive…….almost code like. Maybe they did have some secrets?????
i dunno about orlando now, i was there about 30 yrs ago and it wasn’t that big in comparison to ft. lauderdale which is what i was used to at the time, but now i’m in a ver small town, so orlando would probably be huge to me…i’ve been out of the rat race for a very long time
Sabrina,
LOL….she (jane) fills in for NG, but she’s way to nice. She usually lets someone finish their sentence! LOL……no tomatoes please……I DO LIKE NG!
are we all gonna move to the newer faster blog ?
I like NG too…but I do know that the family of Trenton Duckett I believe is still suing her. I guess the interview of the mom pushed her over the edge and she was the only link they (authorities) had to find the baby. The mom committed suicide right after NG layed into her on the show.
I can understand (somewhat) L not wanting to take a poly because maybe he “knows” something he doesn’t want to have to reveal he has knowledge of and the poly may show deception………..but WHY on earth would he not want to take the dna, unless HE has something to hide???? DNA is factual, it can’t be used to show ‘deception’ per se’. Does anyone know if he has lawyered up yet?
But is it because of NG or guilt over what she had done? wasn’t there a question about her?
kris, i rember that about little trenton, but i don’t think NG pushed her over the edge, she was already over the edge, i see her as the same as M
i meant “remember” lol
BUt coming from a family in law enforcement… maybe he just never voluntarily gives up sample. I know people like that who say I will answer questions but if I feel like a suspect suddenly then its get a court order.
chsah, i agree, why does he refuse to give the dna sample, it doesn’t make sense, unless like you said he has something to hide…hmmm maybe he’s scared his dna will show uo in the data base for some other crime/ crimes…or maybe something else…i have a suspicious mind about such things
Kris, I know what you mean about that case. NG is pretty tough most of the times and she could push anyone over the edge……geez!…sometimes I’m on the edge of my chair wanting to pull my hair out when she won’t let someone finish a sentence! LOL. I bet that guests have to sign some sort of contract agreeing not to sue the tv station or host in regards to the interview….what do you think? I think she knew (Trenton Duckett) that she was a suspect and being on NG it made her realize it and I think if the LE would have got to interview her again, she’d probably have committed suicide anyway…..again, just speculating!
I will move if everyone else is……we are beginning to talk about the case again so it’s interesting.
I agree with everyone on that. To me she was sort of on the edge to begin with, but I do remember NG really lambasting her that night. But to us that is just NG and her style from being a lawyer..so we are use to it. But from that girls end of it, it was too much to bear and I heard the suicide was immediately following the show. I am not agreeing with the family, nor NG, I am neutral on this one.
Sabrina….MY thoughts exactly. His DNA is going to show up SOMEWHERE…..but just a hunch! I like your suspicious mind!! LOL. Makes for a good “detective” and “conversationalist”!!!
I think by him denying the Dna to begin with perked the ears up of the officials and drew more attention for searching other crimes…I think he shot himself in the foot on that one.
as i remember the trenton ducket mom being much like M in her answers…and finding the babies toys etc…in the trash bin
there seems to be a type of women out there like susan smith and M and trentons mom, i wish i could remember her name…is it a trend ? or what
cfc, but wouldn’t you think being in LE family that would be all the more reason L would want to give the DNA and cooperate?? I can’t imagine G ever telling a suspect (don’t give your dna whatever you do?). I think C & G were willing to give DNA samples when asked but L talked them out of it. I think b/c HE didn’t want to have to give one so he talked them out of it too, so as not to look suspicious!! DNA could clear his name in some aspects of this case…….or implicate…hmmmmmm
She just snapped sabrina…simple as that. Who can really say if, or when she would have committed suicide if that interview wasn’t done. But it seems some lawyer out there feels that the father of the child has a case, because he too is still searching for the remains of his baby. So sad…with nothing to go on now.
is the blog moving? even tho noone said hello lol…i’m moving when you are its slow on my end
i hope you’re right kris, maybe the detectives will get the search warrent for LV’s dna
Kris, I think you nailed it on the head! It made him LOOK even more suspicious!!
hi pammy, sorry hun i missed your post…i’m still here waiting for anyone to say lets move
Kris, I think I know where you are going with the maggot questions. Time of death can be determined by the stage of the larvae in the body.
Something else – and I am afraid LE may have missed it before the car was washed and cleaned up by George – is that leaves/dirt/foliage from the underside of a car can determine to what areas a car has been driven.
For instance, you might find red dirt on a car that is driven by someone who lives and drives in an area where there’s only black dirt-or sand. Or you might find honeysuckle vines under a car that belongs to someone who lives/drives where there is no honeysuckle.
They can tell by what’s under a car (or in the space between the windsheild and the hood) what areas that car may have been in.
My point: If there was foliage/dirt under Casey’s car from the woods where she drove to, then that dirt and foliage woudl be common to a few places, as opposed to any place.
brb 1 sec
cj said to move some time back…gone now
CHSAH…maybe if he is Caylees daddy and knows it too…the parents were never let in on the secret either. Maybe that could explain the talking in code to each other at the jail, they may have made up a code language long ago because of the pregnancy, and C & G were just told the story about the dead boyfriend getting her pregnant.
lets move!! i am eating the brownies i “claimed” i made for my 3 year old :O) I said i am off for 2 days whhoo hoo~! sick of working
lets move!! i am eating the brownies i “claimed” i made for my 3 year old :O) I said i am off for 2 days whhoo hoo~! sick of working
ok….let’s move. What’s the number again?
pammyliz…I read a blog that you had for me either yesterday of the day before…it was rather late so I didn’t respond. I have noticed you get up early and I’ll try to respond to you in the mornings in case I miss you again…please forgive.
I WAS THE ONE BROUGHT UP THE IDEA ABOUT THE 2 CASES MIGHT BE RELATED AND E1 ACTED LIKE I WAS RETARDED. NOW YA’LL MIGHT THINK ABOUT IT. HMMMM….. THE ONLY REASON I WAS TALKING ABOUT MY BABIES WAS CUZ PEOPLE WERE ASKING QUESTIONS. WHY AM I SUCH AN OUTCAST? DON’T CODDLE ME EITHER. JUST WONDER WHY I FEEL LIKE YA’LL THINK I’M GOOFY?
the # is 118118
thanks RV i do get up early with my girl and iwork a crazy shift 1-9 pm, i only can focus on here at night really, mornings are hard, but try to get on then too. I been doing this shift a year and a half, its hard.. but working on getting day shift. i get on as often as i can. I have not seen MNT in days wonder what happened??? I hope she wasn’t disgusted with the blog
Leaving now for the new blog…
mamabear, your idea must have gotten us all thinking! Your not an outcast and for Pete’s sake, don’t leave. Talking about your babies is ok……we all talk general talk. But when Jan and Simon and some of us bloggers see several hours of unrelated conversation, we have to be reminded of what the topic is here. Some people confuse this with an open forum where the topic is anything and everything. You have some good opinions so keep on blogging. I certainly don’t think your goofy by any means and i don’t think anyone else on here does either. So moving to 118118 with us???
Mamabear…..WHERE ARE YOU????
who thinks your goofy, mamabear? I don’t. And I don’t think the others do either. We love your sense of humor and your input.
Don’t you dare leave us. đ
mamabear, are you still here ? come join us
i don’t think you’re goofy at all, i totally respect your point of view…please come join us
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mamabear, i came back for you, just to make sure you know where we are
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are you going to join us mamabear ?
mamabear, don’t make me drive to PA. đ
I WILL JOIN YA’LL SOME OTHER DAY. THANKS
I’ll just go to bed, then mamabear. Talk to you later. Sleep good.
‘nite
NITE SWEETIE
MAMABEAR,
I just saw your “goofy” post, and I’m going to offer you an answer from one long-term member here without going back to see what you posted. It doesn’t even matter what you said–nothing can convince me you are a goofy outcast!
Girrrrllll, I worried about you for days because I kept forgetting to post instructions for making the printing larger. And that’s NOT coddling. That’s caring and liking someone instantly. I’m being 100% honest.
You fit right in here. And we’re quite a diverse group, too. All are welcome. You’ll find a very nice group of people gathered here because we all have been touched deeply by the sweet, precious Caylee. That is our common bond.
Jan & Simon have only asked that everyone be respectful and not attack others. You’ve never attacked others.
And like CHSTAHeart said–there’s a big difference between people going on for hours and hours about unrelated topics and members mentioning or discussing their private lives for a bit here and there. People opening up to each other is what humanizes this place! I think everyone appreciates recognizing that we’re all human beings with lives outside of this blog.
Please don’t go! You’re a wonderful addition to this group.
And by golly, we like you! đ đ
(<<<< NOT CODDLING, I PROMISE! It’s genuine!)
Concerned in Texas, gosh, I’m always a day late and a dollar short. I hope that one of these days weâre on this blog at the same time. I enjoy reading your very logical comments and Iâm always amused by your sense of humor. Especially, when you gave us a detail description of what goes on in Joseâs office from Monday through Friday. I got such a kick out of that one. (LOL)
I totally agree with your response on Oct.11th, at 1:55 pm to Dak regarding Padilla. Iâm sure that either the defense team or the third party, (most likely Geraldo) fed him a line in order to get him to put up bail. Padilla went to Florida in good faith believing what was being said to him was the truth and Caylee was still alive. It didnât take him long to discover what monster did. Iâm not a bit worried about Padillaâs honesty, all the pertinent conversations have not been released to the public. I do believe that Padilla has a good heart and means well. I think he is obsessed as much, if not more, than we are and he’s bravely speaking out to let the truth be known. I’m sure the defense team is livid!
You were so right when you said âWe are all aware that in the past 30-40 years, the system has changed. Defense attorneys in the distant past in the US did not do what Baez and others do now. They used to protect their clientsâ rights. Now they try to win cases, seemingly at any cost, moral or otherwise. And we all know whyâfame and fortune!! This is NOT the way it used to be here in these fine United States.â Concerned in Texas, that is one great statement!
One last thing, can you once more post your âCayleeâ website address?
THERAPIST! There you are! I thought you were gone for good I haven’t seen you in sooooo long…SO NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU AGAIN!!! Hopefully, if you have already signed off tonight, I’ll see you tomorrow….Let me know how you’re doing as I’ve been thinking about you.
Initially I had hoped that Casey SOLD Caylee…then I suspected that Caylee was being held for drug money ransom…SADLY I now suspect that Casey killed Caylee {either intentionally or by accident…as Caylee was a burden on her life…of crime…drugs…stealing from her parents and apparantly everyone that she came in contact with!!!
I find it DISGUSTING that Baez want’s her FREE to FLEE…to other countries {won’t be hiring him!}
SRI…George/Cindy & Lee COULD HAVE TAKEN CONTROL of CAYLEE…they obviously knew that CASEY was TOTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE!!!…well they DIDN’T…and I HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE for CAYLEE’S DEATH!!!!!…meanwhile PLEASE put Casey in JAIL!!!
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Caylee has stolen America’s heart said,
in October 10th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
does anyone know if Baezâ office is in an office building or a space of itâs own???? Just curious as to whether undercover LE is watching who comes and goes from Baezâ office during the day when M is there?
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i was wondering about this myself. if you notice on some of the earlier footage from the first time casey got out of jail and went to his office – she had a HUGE white back pack on and it was obviously quite full.
full of??? evidence? changes of clothing and disguises?? porn???
as for casey needing to be able to help search, that is absolutely ridiculous. she had a full month to search, but she obviously didn’t need to cause she already knows where she buried (and possibly tried to burn – remember the gas cans, maybe they weren’t for the car) caylee’s remains.
so instead, she spent that whole month partying, shopping with someone else’s money, and having literal and cyber sex with who knows how many guys.
yeah, that’s what every good mother would do if her child were “kidnapped” by a babysitter.
All very interesting comments – I live in Puerto Rico and believe me, children are treated very specially here and if Casey thought she could have hid here, how wrong she was – everyone knows everyone here and not only would she not be protected here (this is a US commonwealth) they would hunt her down and put her on display in the local plazita –
Is it just a rumon that GJ might hear her case this coming week, or is that official information?
I get so nervous that she could slip away – who is driving her back and forth to her lawyers appointments. Now that you have mentioned the bracelet NOT being a GPS – what good is it when she’s at the lawyers.
Yes, another point that makes me nervous – what if she does disguise herself and gets out of the lawyers office, with his knowing, and hides the remains a little better – I know that is crazy, but I thought that bracelet was a GPS. I just don’t want her to get away with this. She thinks she’s smarter than all of us – and laughs at our failing her little hide and go seek game she is playing.
As for what Casey and Her attorney do all day, has anyone thought of the possibility she is paying by giving sexual favors to him? This girl is sex crazed and he always seems to come out of the office with some goofy smile. Makes me wonder.
I guess Jose has figured out that he’s got to bring home some money somehow other than being an attorney coz he damn sure dain’t any good at it. This way he won’t have to work a day in his life again.
but wait.
casey wants to search for caylee *now.*
everyone should stop what they’re doing and let her go search, right?
it’s not like she had those first 31 days to search or GET HELP or anything.
and no matter that the defense is saying that she’s being tried by the media.
she had THIRTY ONE DAYS where she didn’t even bother to MENTION her child’s disappearance to friends, family or law enforcement.
there’s your pre-trial, baez.
not much you can do about that.
Dear Heavenly Father Please watch over our little Caylee today, because only you know where she is.. Guide Law enforcement as they continue the search and prepare to try the person resposible. We ask special protection over Cayleeâs family as we know they must be hurting. For all the things they wish they had said and may never get to say. You know the healing power and or forgiveness that each member has. We also pray that you bring to a close this horrible feeling of not knowing for all of us. We need you to guide the searches so we can all be at peace but most importantly that we can lay Caylee to rest. We pray these things in your Sons name Amen
Here’s the latest – From myfoxorlando.com TODAY!!
Equusearch May Pull Out of Caylee Search
Last Edited: Monday, 13 Oct 2008, 6:14 AM EDT
ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) — Texas Equusearch, a non-profit group that is helping to organize searches for missing 3-year-old Orlando toddler Caylee Anthony, may be pulling out of Orlando for good.
“We gotta think about what’s good for Equusearch in these tough economic times, because people who donate money may not donate again if all our money goes to one person when there are more (missing persons) out there,” Equusearch founder Tim Miller told FOX 35 reporter Tracy Jacim in an exclusive interview on Sunday.
The fact that Miller says Equusearch has already spent $44,000 on the search for Caylee, only having recouped $5,000 from the Orange County Sheriff’s Office and another $7,000 from private donations, and the fact that the Anthonys are not cooperating, is forcing Miller to reconsider continuing the search.
Miller flew into Orlando on Thursday with a few members of the group and a board director. New York Times bestselling author Judith McNaught is helping with the financing and came to support Tim in what she calls “a draining case.”
“I’m out here to write checks, that’s what the Board of Directors does, because we all want it to turn out so well,” said McNaught. “At the same time, this is the first time I’ve made a public appearance on any case, because he (Tim) is so exhausted,” she said, adding “I’m worried about our main resource.”
Tropical Storm Fay forced Miller and his team to table a search a few weeks ago. Since returning, Miller says he and about ten others have done small-scale searches with the Sheriff’s Office and have turned up nothing. He says water is still an issue too.
Miller says he’ll have his final decision Monday.
m2c – go to 118114
âWe gotta think about whatâs good for Equusearch in these tough economic times, because people who donate money may not donate again if all our money goes to one person when there are more (missing persons) out there,â
something bugs me about this. is this some sort of $$ ploy??
wouldn’t miller and Equusearch have known all of this BEFORE flying to orlando on thursday?
why spend the money to fly people here if you’re having major doubts and are considering not searching????
re: searching — why hasn’t the orange county sheriff’s office organized a search??? they just figured they’d pay Equusearch to do it??
casey = liar, thief, baby killer:
Hi! Some are blogging at 118114 (that’s the article number – just substitute it for the number after .net/ above.
You quoted only one paragraph of that article. Other parts of the article help to fill in the picture.
I can’t find fault with Tim. He’s done more than any civilian has to find Caylee. I’m sure there are a lot of factors to consider: weather and search conditions are currently lousy; donations to EquuSearch only $7,000 plus the $5,000 that the Sheriff’s Dept gave?
And the Anthony family does not want anyone searching for a dead Caylee so I’m sure they are doing everything they can to stop him. Poor Tim had to meet with Cindy and George’s criminal Defense attorny for 3 or more hours the other day and who knows what he may have been threatened with by them?
And it is true. I’m sure families all over the country are begging him to search for their loved ones. But not the family of poor little Caylee.
Come on over to the other article!
apparantly you are not familiar with one
FACT
that GRACE (Nancy) that is,
has no NEW YORK accent because
she was born, bred and raised in the south- from GEORGIA!
You are right about Baez. I think,
Baez is trying to get CASEY ANTHONY””S
court supervision release granted to “screw her” somewhere other than his office…and to “control this sad specimen of our FEMALE human species.”
No-one would believe her if she squealed, and he should have the BAR up his A– for this unethical work habits.
I am sure other clients feel ignored at this point? Wouldn’t YOU?
Shouln’t THEY file with the florida
bar a malfeaseance CHARGE against him??
ljoy
I HATE “MY SPACE”. ALWAYS FREEZES ME UP AND THEN I HAVE TO REBOOT. NOW I HAVE MISSED EVERYTHANG AGAIN.
HEY WET—- DOES HE HAVE OTHER CLIENTS?
Since when is someone as black-hearted as casey anthony important enough to used in politics, such as her mother said yesterday?! Enough is enough! It may be her daughter, but it’s past time to put the blame on the real source of turmoil,CASEY!
where the sh-t is everyone !
Please read and consider the following petition:
MAKE CINDY ANTHONY RESPONSIBLE FOR HER ACTIONS
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/make-cindy-anthony-..
She destroyed evidence – go read what those who signed it have to say
We all seem to have our own opinion on this!
I JUST WANT THAT BABY’s BODY BACK
for a proper respectful funeral
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