I will say a prayer for the searchers jan! thanks for keeping us updated!!!

well, it’s good we’re going to get more evidence because we have rehashed what we have and need more dirt.

Cat – Lemon may not be able to make mincemeat out of Body Farm tests, but he might try to make it look like the evidence planted by someone else. Though i cannot imagine who else could possibly have a motive. But I guess he does not need to establish third party culpability, just introduce doubt.

Ultimately, it doesn’t matter what kind of sentence M gets. if it isn’t one we feel is justified, I’m sure there will be a new “foundation” created by folks who will use the money to give to the person who wrings out a confession and stomps her to pieces.

I have really backed off of it, I think cause its too much for my mind to comprehend… for months I just didn’t know what to think, then day after day more.. and now recipes its just something you would never imagine.. I read about moms doing away with their kids, but something this bizarre and heinous is well, its just too much

tomorrow will be a day for more evidence this is good news…

Thanks Jan.

I am praying they have so many searchers turn out that they find her within a half hour.

I hope Cat is right that LE is guarding the areas where the tipsters sighted her. And keeping an eye on LV.

NG has to be careful after that lady committed suicide who was on her show. I’ll bet she feels the same way we do but is limited herself to comments about people who are actually charged with something.

I think I agree they are heartbroken about Caylee, all the videos and things in her room, they do speak of love, and everyone who knew Caylee and saw them said she was a happy well adjusted young lady. If you believe that she was happy then you have to see that G & C cared. Having said that I still (want to hold out hope) That they are really delussional rather than just a coconspirator. While I am waiting to see evidence about their guilt or lack there of. I do believe they are definately not helping M or the search for Caylee. I don’t think anyone in either camp really thinks they are an asset.

Flash you need to think “backward” There may be more justice if she walks. I think there are enough angry people (not that I advocate this either) She may be in MORE danger on the street.

I hear where you are coming from and I swing there too ALOT. G not so much. But I think her (maybe I am delusional now) vigorous defense of M is only so she can continue to believe Caylee is alive. She also told LE that she didn’t care where M was and still didn’t care. If she excepts that M is guilty then she has to accept that Caylee is indeed dead. If Caylee were alive, then M would be innocent(of at least Murder) I admit it gets harder to believe every time she opens her mouth (C)

c4c – yeah, especially when she yells at reporters that they’ll never get another “exclusive”. who does that???

well, I’d better get going. I need a good anthony detox after today.

‘Nite all! Take care!

seriously though even if by some weird reason she gets off of the murder charge… she still has all the other charges that will equal jail time.

you are right mmt. although I think G will come around when there is a body. AND I DO BELIEVE THEY WILL BRING CAYLEE HOME. He’s just grabbing onto a last desperate attempt to believe this nightmare is not really what it seems. No matter how anyone paints him his emtion was geniune when he went before grand jury. His comments doing the unthinkable… that was not a man going to tell a truth that wouldn’t hurt is daughter. Now if it was all an act, based on the sympathy that got him… he would still be faking it. I believe he will one day realize the truth about M in all its ugliness and then he might really take his own life. C on the other hand I think she will either be buried believing M is innocent, there for Caylee must be alive or they will lock her in a mental ward. Please as you read these comments know that I am in no way condoning there behavior.

there’s gonna be alot more searchers this time, we will be bound and determined to find her.

concernedforcaylee, Yes, I think you may be right about G, he may be the one who comes around when there is a body or maybe even if they end up not finding Caylee’s body.

If what Padilla said on NG yesterday about him overhearing a conversation that G had with someone in regards to G being tired of all the lies…. he may already know that M is guilty.

RE:Flash, I had a tough time with Nancy Grace’s softness last night regarding Cindy and George too. Nothing is worse to me than the denial and defensiveness these two have shown throughout the months since Caylee has been missing. In the beginning you can hear their plea’s and their obvious disgust towards their daughter. Now they seem to be sticking to her lies and deceit. They’d be inhuman to think their daughter is innocent, yet somehow I believe they are being fed countless shit from Casey as well as the lawyers. Their minds must be on overload 24/7.
Nancy can really be headstrong, and she cuts people off and can turn on a dime. I only watch her show because she’s always on top of these cases and follows them until trial.

Nite y’al.
Sweet dreams.

thanks jan for another great article, i wich they could start searcig before the 8 but im sure they have thier reasons, i personally am sick of the anthonysthese people have not lifted one finger to search for this child they are so buusy defennding m and her lies we all know what c said in the beginning and we all know m actions and lack of remorse, personally i think that says it all, and if for god sake there is some other explanation for al of this they need to speak up, i cant immaging why anyone would wait, i am so ffrustrated by these peoples actions, my heart breaks for little caylee dailey, that these adults in her life could be making so many excuses for the obvious.

hi anna I am only on for a minute before work. hoping today brings out some evidence we have waited to hear…but like I said in last nights post everytime they release more I just get more turned off by this case, because of the henious way its showing to be

ANYBODY UP YET?

Hi MAMA!

Dropped in before work to say hi to everyone and I can’t wait to see what evidence it coming out today!

HEY NITE
ME TOOOOOOOOO

hey MTC

I am off for a long 12 hour day so I will miss alot like yesterday 🙁 but will catch up tonight on the blog..

I never heard of this either but I welcome hearing the forensics..

HEY PAMMY

MEANT -OK NITA. NOT NITE. STILL ASLEEP HERE. LOL

hi mama!!! yah I am off too, normally don’t work mornings but have a meeting, and then on to my shift… this blows… I will catch the news later to see whats being released… they said forensics so I guess that will be more detail in the trunk etc..??

SURE HOPE SO PAMMY. CAN’T WAIT TO FIND OUT.

U KNOW——I GONNA BE PISSED IF THIS TRIAL ISN’T ON TV. THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH OUT FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE AND THEN IF THEY CLOSE THE DOOR TO THE TRIAL —— GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I don’t know mama, scott petersons wasn’t televised for the same reason, media hype so I am thinking this one won’t be either…but we’ll still get all the inside info I am sure from court tv… yah I have a boss who likes to drag everyone up this early for a 1 hours losuy meeting which then nothing much is discussed, so its a waste of time really lol.. I had to get my girl up real early this am… it makes a long day for her, but shes being good about gettin up…I will be back late tonight.. please post a link if you leave

MamaBear, concerning the trial. Knowing how the skank has remained mute from the very beginning, (supposedly) other than to spit out lies, how do you suppose she will act under the pressure of interrogation? Trial lawyers are aggressive and I cannot imagine her continuing to sit there, repeating the same old, “I don’t know where she is…” Do you think reality is ever going to set in with her?

Remember her comment early on, “I can never forgive myself for what I did”…? What did she do with the gasoline; and why after George admitted that she would not allow him to see inside the trunk, he is “convinced” the child is alive. Too many lies. Like someone else said, interviewed G and C’s main concern covering the facts. “Uhhh… Caylee, who? Oh, yeah, she began missing in June, but let us tell you how wonderful our daughter is.” Put the whole damn bunch in the pen.

HEY FLASH.
I DON’T THINK SHE HAS TO GET ON THE STAND.
AM WITH YOU ABOUT C & G. I NO LONGER FEEL ANYTHANG GOOD FOR THEM. THERE COMES A TIME TO JUST GIVE UP THE GHOST (SO TO SPEAK). AND I THINK THEY HAVE HAD TIME TO DO JUST THAT. NOPE. I DO NOT LIKE C AND G AT ALL.

I DON’T THINK C NOR G WILL EVER SAY OUT-LOUD THAT CAYLEE DIED, EVEN IF THEY SEE THE BODY. THEY HAVE RUN THEY MOUTHS TO MUCH TO CRAWDAD NOW.

SOME PEOPLE JUST DON’T LIKE TO BE WRONG. BUT NOW ISN’T THE TIME TO TAKE THAT STAND.

M2C-ME 2. 2 LITTLE 2 LATE

IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE CAYLEE HAS NEVER BEEN FRONT AND CENTER WITH THESE PEOPLE. NEVER IN LIFE NOR DEATH.

THEY BETTER HAVE SOMETING GOOD TO SHOW. I AM SICK OF THIS CIRCUS. I WOULD LIKE TO SIT ON CINDY AND SLAP HER INTO SHUTTING THE HELL UP

Flash and MAMA – I agree with both of you!

Here’s some info from wftv – in quotes below.
My comment is after those two paragraphs.

“Meanwhile, Casey Anthony’s defense team is looking for ways to eliminate the strongest evidence against her in the murder of her daughter Caylee. That includes evidence of Caylee’s body and chloroform found in Casey’s car trunk.

The defense may try to prove that so many people had access to the car during the time it was parked at the Amscot on SR-50 and Goldenrod Road that it’s impossible to say, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Caylee is dead and Casey is responsible.”
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I sort of understand that it might be difficult to prove that M did it but the evidence in the car CANNOT be ruled out if it proves that little Caylee is deceased. That would be an abomination!!!! To deny the child (the VICTIM!!) the right to be acknowledged as dead? My God. If that happens I will completely give up on the American “justice” system.

I JUST DON’T SEE ALL THAT CRAP SWEPT UNDER THE RUG

ijust watched the today show interview, i cannot believe g&c. about the media frenzy there wouldnt be any if m hadnt lied in the first place, they never comment on that, and the good mother and good daugher bit is getting old, people dont try and take custody for no reason, they never come out and say that why would you call your daughter a unfit mom to all her friends if you didnt believe something was wrong, and as for focusing on caylee i think they are afraid to go visit no telling what m would say now i really wish i could believe this little girl was alive, but with all that has gone on i dont any more, i cant get past the first interview with all the lies told just like it was nothing, no concern in her voice, the only reason you have to lie is if you are hiding something, at least thats my experiance with any one i just want this to be over, then other people who have missing children can get the help they need in finding them.

BBL…. HAVE A GOOD DAY E1

Hi, BOP! 🙂
Scroll back just a little for my 8:10 am post. I sure do hope the defense does not succeed in getting the car eliminated as evidence! EEK!

I really need some more hard evidence to come out today…I’ve said it before and I am continuing to worry about her getting off on shitt like getting hard core evidence THROWN OUT…LIKE TRASH…JUST LIKE SHE DID CAYLEE…oh, ya and people who say she is innocent until proven guilty also say..let justice be served…THAT’S NOT JUSTICE…saying others had access to the car….SO WHAT! It was her childs dna in the trunk of HER car…all the sudden that might get thrown out cause someone else used HER car to store HER child’s body and they killed HER child….DISGUSTING ..JUSTICE MY ASS IF THAT EVEIDENCE IS THROWN OUT.

FLASH SAID: All she wanted was to be loved.

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It is that simple…
So utterly true, and heartwrenching!

MMT – Thank you for reminding me that this is not the first and is far from the last time the defense is going to put my blood pressure through the roof!

But I am worried. Not so much that M was extremely clever and devious but that she may turn out to be very “lucky.” Throw doubt on some witness testimony, throw out some evidence, include a couple of idiotic jurors etc and what will happen? I shudder to think!!
We know it’s happened before (murderers getting off). All we can do is pray it does not happen this time!

caylee~ (9:19) Exactly — The words “someone else” mean nothing. Too embarassingly asinine. Oh, Sure, someone would murder “someone” and track down a certain individual’s car to hide it in. Even a regular criminal has more sense than that. Again, I think that is some of rot’s egotistical thinking surfacing. She could actually visualize herself the target of some anonymous criminal’s ploy, and probably in her mind this would again make her the center of attention. Don’t know about y’all but I am a believer, and I do believe the Word is true. If we did not support right vs wrong, we’d not be bashing and analyzing to defend the truth. Take care,

Theres no way a judge is gonna thro that out they may in fact bring all the ppl who had there hands on that car to trial to testify what they did to that car: tow guy,G C whoever else but they wont thro it out any judge is gonna see straight thru that those ppl are grasping at straws…no I doubt it there was chloroform searches on her pc and high trace levels of chloroform in that trunk they aint throwin it out…to much evidence that links together the pc and trunk

First the prosecution can prove a stench was in the car from what she told her friends before the car was towed. And second, for example: sometimes guns used in killings end up at pawn shops or in someone else’s possession and they aren’t thrown out because they’ve been somewhere else since they were used to kill someone.
I hope the judge will use common sense and let the car stay in. Then the defense will have to try to cast doubt on it – and let the jury decide.

Yes Mytwocents that evidence isnt goin nowhere..they cant get it thrown out!! Shes goin down down down !!

I am so pumped for Tim’s search…3,000 – 4,000 people…wished we could watch it on tv.

Go to Orlandosentinel.com for forensic test results!

That defense team really has there work cut out for them everyone keeps sayin its the state that has a tough road ahead but i think its the other way around…she lied since the beginning and thats going to be a huge factor in this for the jury and her whole change of life after Caylee went “missing” all her so called friends are goin to testify to that…

BOP at 10:01 Yes. But turn it around and if the interview at Universal is thrown out there are no lies to the police, and the same friends (plus others) who will say she partied will also say she was a great mom (as far as they could see) so it kind of works both ways. It may end up being who and what the jury choose to believe (if all evidence/testimony/statements are allowed in)

Hi All,

Just finished reading all the posts from this morning. Interesting as usual.

Catherine you can read about the dna evidence at orlandosentinal.com

mytwocents,

Would you like me to address your question with regard to information being released to the public prior to the trial?

Go Catherine Go Catherine..smarty pants..hey im out for awhile bbl …

Most likely she is having a pity party.

Oh, I was referring to the 6:38 A:M: post today, sorry.

MTC-you have a problem with me?

All you’ve been posting is rubbish about me.

Why?

JusticeForAll – If you read the posts you’d know why and you’d know it isn’t just me.

MTC-keep your insecurities about me to yourself. I’ve been reading some of your posts and you seem to be a jerk to just about everyone at one time or another.
Enough said, move on.

Sorry, JFA! It’s just so obvious! And I’m not the only one! You’ve been outted! And your last two posts prove it! Same attitude as before. The one who got booted earned the “Jerk” award – not me!

mytwocents,

Mickey Sherman made is big representing Michael Skakel (Kennedy relative) for the killing of Martha Moxley. Michael was found guilty of this horrible crime. I found it amusing that Mickey was complainig about the release of evidence to the public when he is well aware of our First Amendment.

In Florida a tape of Joseph Smith abducting Carla Brucia was aired prior to his trial along with other evidence that proved his guilt.

The media is entitled to release this information under the First Amendment. The only informatiion that must be protected is the anonymity of the jurors, names, addresses etc. they are protected from the public.

Hi all – just caught up.

I agree with Cat – I don’t think evidence will be thrown out and even if the defense tries to say it was contaminated by passing through many hands or tampered with by others having access, one thing remains. They still have to secure a REASONABLE doubt, not just any doubt.

Anyone who had access to any evidence whatsoever prior to her arrest had either NO motive to kill Caylee or EVERY motive to cover up for M.

I thought at the very beginning that C and G not calling the cops the minute that car was found was on purpose. If their daughter and granddaughter were both missing at that point (although they knew M was alive, she kept talking to them by phone giving them excuses, they just had not seen Caylee in 31 days) then they knew that the smell of a body could very well be Caylee’s. The fact that they took that car home, opened it up, fiddled with things inside, etc. and then first went looking for M for an explanation is just too much. Cindy told police on her 911 call she suspected it was a crime scene but does an about face after she has M home.

All of us who have seen the plethora of crime shows, – not to mention sitting through the OJ trial where we learned more than we wanted to know about chain of custody of evidence and nit-picking dna to absurdity, – or the Ramsey case where even the cops screwed up and contaminated the scene – know perfectly well that you can’t touch crime scenes if you want to preserve evidence. If you want to PRESERVE evidence. And G had even reason to know better being an ex-cop.

I don’t think people who touched M’s things – in the trunk, her computer, etc. had any intention of preserving anything. They only suspected M or they would have left it alone.

Why would they have touched anything in that car, a car that had Caylee’s seat and doll sitting in it – if they bought for one second M’s kidnapping story? They would have assumed it would be crawling with evidence of “Zanny”.
Why would they have refused to hand over other evidence to the cops, like credit card receipts. I think the Anthony family went into coverup overdrive the night of the 15th because, after living with M for all those years, they knew the chance she was telling the truth about a kidnapping were slim and none.

I don’t care how many red herrings that family has tried to plant suggesting people like Amy or Jesse or Tony or whoever else they want to come up with might be responsible. There is simply too much testimony and evidence that will point to the fact that M is the only one with motive and opportunity.

The best they will be able to do to plant doubt in the jury’s mind will be as to whether it was premeditated murder or cover-up of an accidental homicide. If the chloroform searches and dead squirrel suggestions and myspace/facebook photo purges, and the fraud evidence which shows that even afterward she partied and went on spending sprees – which go to state of mind – are all admitted, I think that’s the best chance of murder one.

Someone who accidentally killed their daughter would be grieving, not out buying lingerie with their friends’ money or mugging at Hot Body contests and getting “ain’t life grand” tattoos. Heck, if she was kidnapped and the family was in mortal danger if she told, it’s still not behavior that’s appropriate or believable. Her demeanor afterward looks like Murder One to me and I just hope it does to the jury.

Unless they believe dead squirrels can crawl.

Hi Girlfriend,

I agree with you. The car was locked when the towing coming hooked it up NOT DROVE IT to the towing yard. G. was the first person who unlocked the car.

Catherine! Yes you did and thank you! I was a bit worried but now I’m okay.

cecy at 10:45! All great points and thank you!

I am sure there are witnesses that can attest to seeing the towing company putting the car on the lift when they removed it from the dumpster area.

Hmmmm. I guess M. thought parking the car by the dumpsters would make people think that the odor of her decomposing child was actually trash from the dumpster. How clever of her.

The CAR is the case against Momster, ITs not going anywhere…

The defense can ask for a ham sandwich, for all I care, that doesn’t mean it will be granted…

I’m still having problems thinking about people just give money to Momster jail acct…
Why would anyone feel sorry for her? What are this people thinking? Momster is alive and well she doesn’t need anyone sympathy..
These people need to found a real donation org. Like breast cancer to give money to, not this pathetic useless piece of life…

Sometimes I get mad cause the media makes a big deal out of nothing, and if they never mention how momster was sitting there with no visitors and only 50 that her dad put into the acct.. People wouldn’t even have known…
That is why people are in jail, to be punished not rewarded….Our country is so messed up..

allie – great point. NG and others should have never kept repeating that story of how she was alone in a cell with no visitors, etc. When you’re in jail charged with MURDER ONE, that is to be expected.

I don’t know if those crazy people who gave her money just want their names in the news or if they are silly enough to care.

The point is, that woman had plenty of other people’s money to spend at bars and Target for an entire month after she killed that child. Why does she need any more now?

Beans your post 10:45

Perfect example of the case in a nut shell…
Its hard for me to believe that the grqandparents didn’t have something to do with the evidence after it was towed from the savage yard… My question is that if it smelled bad on the 27 on june, and sat 2 weeks. Why didn’t someone from the savage yard call police before hand to report a bad smell?

Cat – oh, I didn’t know it was LV’s originally. Maybe he thought his dna was still all over it (even after G detailed it).

And I remember the thing about the card now. But C was really rude at first to the towing company receptionist, like, practically blaming them for the fact that they didn’t bother to check their own front door (probably the same combative tone she used in the past when her checks didn’t clear) – as if it was the towing company’s responsibility to personally track them down instead of sending registered mail.

allie – remember that soundbyte of Cindy saying “there was NO SMELL in the lot!” to the media so that it would look like someone planted a body?

I think the reason that the car didn’t smell as bad on the lot, and only when it was opened, is that – unlike the other car with the guy who committed suicide in the trunk – there was no body left, only fluids. There was less matter perhaps to create an odor that would escape the car. And if it was mixed with chloroform that might have made it not so obvious. AND it might have had something to do with where it was parked on the towing lot.

I’m still not counting out C and G splashing chloroform all over the trunk to hide stuff. We don’t know what prompted M to look up chloroform recipes as a possible method. Might have been some comment C or G had made at the dinner table.

Well, I just read the FBI forensic tests…not too terribly strong….one hair similar to Caylee’s and high levels of chloroform, which we already had, however it did debunk the theory by Kobelinski that animal decomp. is the same as human as the FBI did do comparative study, and comparative study using another car interior. It was interesting too from the point of view of Cindy’s pizza theory. FBI said there were no maggots on pizza tested and no similar odor emenating from it.There was also testing on a hair found on the handle of the shovel where a hair was found, but it was not consistent with Caylee’s. I was hoping for stronger evidence. Please all of you keep the faith,hopefully justice will prevail. Please also keep very positive thoughts toward the search by Tim and Padilla.
My daughter is a mother herself now and a wonderful Mom and I just delight in the fact that for all the lousy mothers like Casey and Cindy,there are millions of great Moms out there.

If the defense just sat back, and didn’t start disputed the evidence and testimonies that the state has they would not be doing their job. It’s should have been expected that they would go after M’s car, now they must prove to the judge why the evidence from the car should not come into the trial. It’s not going to happen.

Salu,

Well, there goes the squirrel theory.

I think G and/or C thoroughly cleaned that trunk on July 15. Otherwise how could only ONE hair be in there? The car had been in M’s possession since June 15 without benefit of G’s obsession with car cleaning. So under normal circumstances a mom running around with a child ought to have a bunch of hairs and all kinds of stuff in the trunk – just from throwing in toys, dirty blankies or clothes, etc. Only ONE hair shows me that it was definitely tampered with. Maybe M cleaned it out herself before dumping it.

Just curious did the FBI say if they were going to test the hair from other people who submitted their DNA?

Cecy,

First laugh today, thanks needed that.

posted 11:15
Too bad the FBI lab didn’t have more….
Kobi info on the decomp was a general example of the simulairities by a animal and a human..
We have a human child missing here…Not Rufus the dog down the street…

I see were this is leading up to…Are we going to hear from the defense that a dog weighing about 30 lbs was put into the trunk of Momster car and left in there for 11 days? Cause she was looking for the owners?

WE have to stick with the basics here….NO body lies to help find their OWN child if they are not involved with their dissappearance. Am I right?

I bet M. told that pizza guy to put everything on that pizza, so it would look like a slice of garbage. What puzzles me is why when she finished eating the pizza would she get out of the car and put the leftovers in the trunk. Not normal.

All these dead animals with Caylee’s DNA??????

salukisighthound – After I first registered whenever I go to bloggernews.net (or a particular article there) the article automatically comes up with Leave A Reply at the end and my screen name already there.
Not sure why that isn’t happening for you.

cecy – Good points.
Someone mentioned that the pants M wore the day she was arrested last time are (or may be) those same pants! Could that be possible? I thought C gave LE clothes early on. Could she have given them the wrong clothes (like on purpose?) Or is some of the evidence sitting in the jail in a package with M’s name on it???

I know G. said the pants were gray pinstrip and she had a white blouse on too when he saw her last. Hmmmm. I can’t say for sure if they were the same clothes.

If LE did take the clothing they would still hsve them.

I wouldn’t put anything pass C. she would give them the wrong clothing for sure.

I think alot of us are starting to worry, when are we going to trial…sooner or later?

cat – thanks… our confident reassuring voice..

Actually I was the person that noticed that Casey was wearing pin striped pants on the day she was arrested. george mentioned that the last day he saw Casey and Caylee, Casey was wearing those pants. I do not see Ms.clothesehorse Casey buying 2 pants which are the same, unless as you stated Cindy gave out the wrong pants, just as, I feel she showed the wrong Minnie mouse dress on the Today show. Also I recall early on in the case when things were heating up, it was Cindy that called the detectives to pick up the pants, because she thought they ****might be important** this makes it seem that she gave them a totally different pair to make herself look like she was co-operating with the police.

saluki – thanks you did first notice it today. If you read past blogs you’ll see this has been a topic for awhile. we assemble and reassemble stuff here to make sense each day. because, frankly, it’s the only thing about this whole case that does make sense.

i’m just hoping the jury sees through all the crap – and Cat, thank you for assuring us they will. Because otherwise, it’s Plan B and we all start contributing to Big Bertha’s commissary account…

Oh cat – that’s right I remember you made that point a few days ago. Really! More likely she put it in with towels soaked with some kind of solvent G used cleaning out the trunk…

C didn’t think any farther ahead than her daughter. She went from “my daughter and granddaughter are missing and it smells like a dead body” to Suzy Homemaker let’s do laundry as soon as she called Amy and found out M was at Tony’s I’ll bet. Time to clean up evidence – we know where M is!

And, frankly, C and G’s stupidity in letting their daughter lie and covering up all her previous crimes means that M never needed to be very clever with ANY explanation or story she concocted. It only had to pass the C and G test, which was probably, “Mom! Dad! blah, blah, blah, – a lot of unecessary detail – blah, blah” followed by “Whatever” (or occasional choking). Next day, blank slate, SOS. That’s what’s going to be the best tool for the prosecution. To paraphrase Tennessee Williams – oh, the mendacity of it all!

Cat – I’ll bet you are right. That doll had a nasty stain on it.

Or, maybe the doll wasn’t originally in the backseat, but in the trunk. The dress was already off because it was the “chloroform” rag itself.

Thanks for the support everyone. Is anyone watching the Ants, especially Lee as to their whereabouts? I can just see them in the dead of night going to those ping zones with shovels and digging up evidence. In the first jail conversations Lee had with M, he did seem to be actually trying to pump M for details, but later he did seem to be obfuscating regarding the details. 4I just hope tat LE is attempting to keep track of these 3 horrible family members.

Catherine said,in October 24th, 2008 at 11:48 am Now you are sounding like a true defense juror, your doubting the facts, and the evidence. Stay focused on what the evidence proves. Remember the defense makes refernce to blogs all the time. They could be watching us, you never know.
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actually it is others post that are saying they think she might walk which is starting to make me worry too…I am new all this court stuff so I am not sure of what is “normal defense procedure”..etc..or the chance they might get it….I also think for some reason I was thinking that by the way NG was talking last night, I was waiting for some “bombshell” evidence that we haven’t heard of to come out today…the results aren’t anything new…so kinda disappointed…the big picture is totally obvious to us…just wonder how much the jury will actually hear want to know LE’s big guns and they better have more then this!

saluki – right on the nail. and while they’re at it, they should be getting ping charts for Lee – during the times that witness may have seen her on Boggy Creek Road with a shovel – and on C’s phone for after the indictment when she drove M down that same road.

The one thing the Ants never mastered well – looking angry and defensive does not necessarily make you look innocent. ALL relatives of missing children realize that completely eliminating themselves as suspects is just necessary given the statistics. It doesn’t look good when you refuse to cooperate, give conditional cooperation, and accuse LE of conspiracies.

i am also that m will go free, im having that horrible feeling that whatever evidence the defence gets hold of it might come up missing or not handled properly, im hpeing that caylees body will be found that will be the proof, i suppose when your child is missing that the new thing is to party and shop, it unbelievabl all the lies that were told how do you not help find your child, maybee g will get tired of all the bs soon without a body i think he will be the only help, maybee lee will decide that his niece deserves better, when i think of all the people in this world that want children and cant have them and somefamily like this was given someone so precious makes me sick, i can understand supporting your child through the good and the bad but this is just going to far m needs to talk, the only way i see that happening is if they accedentally put her in with gp, it can happen yoy know ont the way to court or back,anyways all this stuff just wants to make me scream where is the justice for little caylee!

val – not to mention the fact she had told people that her parents were “moving” and giving her the house. I think this is Girl, Interrupted.

CA – people are only scared she’ll walk because we all lived through the OJ debacle and have seen it happen. But he had a rich man’s dream team – this girl doesn’t.

And all of us believe that, whether she gets out early or stays in, she’s got the Jeffrey Dahmer tattoo on her head now and will be trophy kill for someone else.

Anna – you are so right.

By defending their daughter they are disgracing their granddaughter.

I have never seen C. G. LV or M. cry over Caylee. When C. made that third 911 call she was frantic, becausemshe thought the nanny took Caylee. As soon as the case was building against M. her whole demeanor changed.

If that was my grandchild I wouldn’t be able to speak without breaking down.

flower – I think if the evidence were any less than it is, the case would have drawn a real hot-shot defense attorney to take it pro bono. Lemon is just a death-row appeal expert. He doesn’t seem to win anything other than life in prison.

Cat – they have separate sentencing trials in FL like in CA?

cat – emotions where loved ones are concerned and especially there well being is one of the rawest, and most times uncontrolled emotions I feel we have. It is very very odd that nobody in that family seems to have any emotions????

well let’s hope we all hear a good bombshell soon,and nail this so called mother for good,i will see everyone tonight after work,keep me focus please,that casey will get what she deserves

The most emotion I heard was when (Amy?) her friend was on the phone with M saying she’d just die if something had happened. Followed, by M saying “What a waste….” Not even LV breaks down, what a nest of sociopaths.

have a good day, flower!

val I agree. I think it was her friend Kristina on the phone that day.

And when LV laughed about how bad the smell was in the garage – when they all knew what it might be – I just got sick to my stomach.

Cat – your oxygen deprivation comment – LMFAO!!

val…very true and it was christina who was so emotional…M’s response…I can’t describe how disgusted I was in words..

Thanks, I knew Amy wasn’t logical 🙁 She would have been angry over the checks.

what kills me about the Ants is the energy they’ve wasted defending their daughter and casting suspicion on literally anyone else and any other theory that leaves their daughter innocent.

if they had taken half that energy and applied it to looking for the truth, no matter where clues led, we would respect them and know they were truly dedicated to their granddaughter.

that’s why the protestors arrived and got so mad. if they had kept quiet and let her stay in jail none of the ugly stuff would have happened. They created their own media circus and then complained when it didn’t make them the kind of stars they wanted to be.

NONE of their responses indicate how much they may have cared for their granddaughter – they simply point to how much they care for their own reputation.

CAT – LMAO! That’s the real recipe of Casey Koolaid!

the Ant family crest: Lie – Deny – Crucify

Cecy,

Frilly Count said, there is not a hsndbook for how this poor family should act. Oh yes there is, plenty of parents/grandparents lose their children and are devastated. They don’t act like these screwballs, hitting people with baseball bats, and throwing dog bowls in the steet.

Val,

It’s a frigging Noak’s ark in that trunk.

Cecy,

LMAO

Val,

He always looks confused to me. LE needs Dr. Hemry Lee

say hi to mama from me when she returns – I seem to keep missing her!

‘later!

for as much as g&c are defending m do you think if there were really someone out there that accually had casey they would be sitting on thier buts doing nothing? think about it if truly someone had her wouldnt you use all your time and energy making pic of this person going door to door on the news with this persons pic, how csn there not be one pic one phone # nothing on this person, why would they even have to defend someone who is innicoent? and why let that take up all your time when the important thing is a 3 yr old child i know first hand how people like that are, there are so many unanswered questions that need to be asked and if truly there was a nother person involved the ants would be taking a diffrent aproach!

cat @ 12:46 noas ark lmao

I know Anna, they haven’t come up with one composite drawing of the Nanny, the kidnappers they have people following, the Nanny’s mother, sister, or maybe Hopkins fake kid did it. They would have wanted posters EVERYWHERE, but would risk getting even more lawsuits incriminating innocent people.

if one of my kids were missing id take that chance, any type of lead would be ok. as long as it was a lead, the thing that bothers me the most is this so called nanny for 2 yrs and not 1 emergency # c should have had that no excuses some family member should have had a emerg# for who ever was watching caylee, that fact is just common sence and especially the ants knowing what a liar m was and all the thft why didnt they question her, accually im sure they did, but they wont tell anyone how do you pretend to work for 2 yrs and STLL STEAL money that would have been a big flag for me i would have thought drug use then i would have wanted to know where and who was watching my grandaughter for saftey reasons, for such a “close” family theres alot of ignored stuff, i cant say it enough stuff that goes on dailey with any familt who has young children!

No apology needed! This family didn’t do anything that makes sense in childcare.

Val – Don’t worry! Send M the bill. A couple of lap dances for the guards and she’ll have the money for your new lap top!

Val where did you get your info about the death band on Caylees hair.

Gumshoe said,in October 24th, 2008 at 1:59 pm I hope none of you are going wimpy on me today
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Guilty a wee bit on that one not because I don’t believe for one bit she is innocent, she is as guilty as they come. I just hope that every single little bit of this huge pile of shtt is admissable.

When we start talking about throwing stuff out …I start getting excited…

The other thing is i have heard that a GJ would indict a ham sandwich so I haven’t been counting on them hearing too much other then what we know too.!

Dak, NG has been talking about it for some time. Today they are saying that they have found decomposition on the root of hair that is microscopically similar to Caylee’s. As NG put it, the other similar DNA is on people still living.

DAK that info with the d3ath band has been out for a long time….

They have not been advertising that their hair evidence is so SMALL. Was the trunk thoroughly cleaned before they got it? There was a different hair found on the shovel too.

couldnt be m hair shes still living, no way a deathband can be on someones hair if there alive.

val,

everybody has already said this. It is not news. It was reported that the hair DNA proved it could be M’s or Caylee’s. The assumption that Caylee is dead and M is alive concludes it is Caylee’s.

Yah thats just the Lords way to!! One little hair is gonna bite her in the ass…pooor MOnster such little evidence against you that screams so much….shes gonna fry…thats just some of the evidence they have..not all…right!!

Aight ladies as much as I love you all and you have all become my dear pals I have to go clean for a bday party..MUH GIRL turns 2 this weekend!!!!!

I still want her tips on car cleaning. My car has so much hair (thanks to the dog, mostly) I can’t imagine only having ONE there even after detailing.

Happy Birthday to your little one, BOP! I want cake now!

LV complained that they reeked of cigarette smoke, which I thought was tacky of him at the time.

This is my favorite website for logs re Caylee case. Another one you may all like is http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net
it is always up to date and very informative

I’m also suprised that since the hair they found in the shovel didn’t belong to Casey or Caylee who does it belong to. Did LE do a test to see who’s it was, if it belonged to the owners.

Dr. Michael Biden was on Fox News commenting on the FBI results that were released today. Dr Biden said the reults further conclude that Caylee was dead in the trunk of her mother’s car.

hi catherine,
il go to fox news,realy want an experts view for reasurance,thanks

They didn’t find fingerprints on the shovel

Dak – reasonable doubt is not the same as without a shadow of a doubt. it’s about probability not remote possibility.

I don’t care if there wasn’t a shred of forensic evidence at this point; there is even less corroborative or testimonial evidence that ANY other scenario is as likely as the one being explored.

If we waited for irrefutable, incontrovertable evidence in every case no one would ever be guilty and the streets would be swaming with recidivists.

Donald Jones, a University of Miami law professor who is not connected to the case, said the reports don’t prove Caylee’s body was in the trunk because they were only “consistent” with the presence of a decomposing body.

“If you’re building a house, it’s a brick, not a wall,” Jones said. “It’s a nail in her coffin, and that coffin already has a lot of nails.”

Still, he said, the defense has a difficult battle and needs evidence that leads away from Casey Anthony as a suspect.

“Casey needs good news,” he said. “This is not it.”

Found on a Fox news article I think talking about evidence. Thought it might encourage us.

but it was in the trunk of the car> LE have the shovel. that is how they tested it for prints. Thats what I was asking. It says shovel found in trunk had no prints. That is a different shovel than neighbors.

on one of the lab reports released today it talks about no prints on shovel found in trunk? Not to commit crime but to bury body>

c4c – what I meant was the shovel she borrowed from her neighbors was the on 18th. it’s also harder to get a clear print than people think. I think she may have returned that shovel before the man saw the incident on Boggy Creek Road. He said it was “near the end of June”.

M had plenty of time and access to other tools after that. She needed a shovel right away on the 18th because the Anthony sheds were locked.

:If this is true…would like to hear first of all M’s “reasonable and innocent” reason for searching up recip’s for chloroform….and second…I thought she said she was digging up bamboo with the shovel….how and WHY did it end up in HER TRUNK ALONG WITH DECOMPOSITION AND DEATH BAND HAIR BELONGING TO CAYLEE and body fluid on the garbage bag…EXPLAIN THAT ONE…WHY THE SHOVEL IN THE CAR?

TOTALLY LOOKS LIKE A MURDER SCENE TO ME

hi cecybeans,c4c,thanks for ur comments,
cecybeans @3.11 ur soo right,and what other conclusion is there,i believe that justice will be served,and u know what im sick of all the bs of mental illness,family doesnt understand,crap!!!!!

m is guilty and i have my faith that she will be brought to account for what she has done.

SHARON…THEY BETTER HAVE!

hi minnie…I’m still kickin’ another day..how are you?

good ca,glad i have all you guys keepin me right!!! say hi to ur hubby for me..

Dak, please bear in mind that circumstantial evidence is simply indirect evidence from which a main fact might be inferred.

While direct evidence (like eyewitness testimony or live video) is stronger and more preferable, all prosecuting attorneys depend largely on circumstantial evidence.

Its strength lies not in each piece by itself but in the cumulative effect it makes. So it is not truly fair to argue the strength of a case by poking holes in each tiny piece if there is an overwhelming and reasonable pattern they all support. Granted, the defense will try to weaken the chain of all evidence doing that, but a jury will decide whether there is any other REASONABLE – the most operative word here – explanation for the events.

No other scenario put forth heretofore has ANY solid evidence, reasonable or otherwise.

While she is innocent until proven guilty in court, and prosecution must make a prima facie case for guilt. Prima facie simply means evidence that is considered sufficient to show guilt in the ABSENCE of counter evidence – not incontrovertable proof.

I’m still waiting to see counter evidence anywhere near as strong as what exists now that points to guilt.

Catherine I doubt Paul also…sounds to fake…

Hey oL man Dak hows about you tell me the other ways a hair can produce the decomposition death band on it?????

Cus last time I read wich was after the word came out that a hair with a death band on it was found..was that only someone who had been deceased could produce a hair with the death band???? So if I am mistaken please clarify for me the truth!!

cecybeans!!!im impressed,WITH A FULL STOP.

Cat – thank you ma’am. Praise coming from you is highly cherished!

thanks ladies. I was a debater and debate judge for a few years.

and I just wanted to nip in the bud some stuff I could see coming down the road.

bump – one of dak’s big arguments was that a small percentage of people develop these death bands if they are high levels of antibiotics…
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my response was that I do not think that baby was high doses of anything but chloroform.

HAY DAK are you out there…tell me the other ways a body can produce the death band other than being deceased????

Sabrina afternoon!! 🙂 Caylee~angel chloroform and xanax!!

Hey Bump why don’t you ask Kris about that on a living person. I believe she siad something in regards to a hair sample of hers that had the band on it. I may be mistaken, but if I took a while to check the post a while back I would show you.

hi cecy, bump, catherine, and anyone else i missed…girlfriends !

Great cus theres nothing on the net about it…KRIS!!!! WHERE ARE JOO??? we have a serious question for you…..come out come out wherever you are…. 🙂

Yah if Kris says it I might believe it..Sorry Dak…. 😛 Is this the original Dak???

Yes thats what Im interested in the ones that have reasonable logic…like the reasonable login one tiny hair is going to be what sends her away for life in prison….one litte hair isnt God amazing..one little hair!!!

Sure you’ll believe Kris but not me boy are you onesided. i don’t think you guys would believe anything I say.

bump..yes one little hair with a death band…IS GOD’S PROOF.

Ok I got to go again…2 rooms down 5 to go….

ok bump, bye bye

First of all there is nowhere in the report thats says death band.

Dak..I am sure they don’t use those terms in a report

mike galanos is about to tell something on the case

he said the strongest proof yet to prove caylee is dead

I don’t think the forensics evidence is stong enough thats just my opinion.

ok caylee angel, will do…he’s not telling the news yet, but as soon as he does i’ll post it for you

Dak, Then your in for a surprise, honey.

Bri,

Did you get my email?

What other Dak

catherine, i haven’t checked my email today…i’ll go check after the news is off, unless it’s important that i do it now

No, it can wait.

So sabrina why did you ask if I was the other Dak(what other Dak)

What wasn’t released was the outline of Caylee’s body in the trunk. This was metioned by LE awhile back. Maybe their saving the good stuff for the trial.

cat…never heard of an outline? they have an outline of this stain?

That’s what I heard, again it was awhile back.

Bri – LOL – maybe “version” is another good term.

Cat – I hope he makes it too and is not just a nutjob. One would think he’d have to be willing to be cross-examined at the trial and who would want to go in for that?

I still think though, that LE has enough suspicious activity and behavior surrounding this case to go for forward without a body or any forensic evidence.

go read page 3 of report dated August 1, 2008
mentions hair with apparent decompostion found near root.

CA,

I liked your choice of word “scrap”.

I am tired too. Went back to look for the part about shovel in trunk? Does anyone remember statement from man who owned shovel if they labeled it a number, then we would know if it is the same shovel. SOmething I read today (reports) made me think it was found in trunk. which is a different shovel. Not sure maybe I am just seeing what I want to see?

cat…any little tidbit…ya know feed the soul

I know she borrowed the shovel on June18th and returned it a few hours later.

Does anyone know the dates of the pings near the airport? I am bad with dates sorry.

Thay was the date she was in the woods.

Really…the day she dumped the car…funny isnt’ it…baby dumped…dump the car..so if she returned the shovel within hours…and the pings at the airport aren’t for another 9 days..then how would she have buried the baby…not buried…gators? Is this why she is not talking cause she is that confident baby won’t be found…but i also heard gators eat live ‘bait”..???

Kris..yes it does clear it up in a muddy sort way…just kidding..

Dak as you know said to ask you…all of your answers on why a death band would be present can’t be remotely linked to this case.
thank you

Would be really nice if LE have her purchasing a shovel on her shopping spree’s.

cat..no worries..

Sorry to add to the morbidity. But when in or near water gators like to pull a victim under the water and hold it there until it drowns. So even if part of a body is left it might not be found (in the water).

That is true, unless they use divers to look for remains.

dak…I never said that YOU implied it…I was making a general statement. However…your argument suggested that a death band “in this case” doesn’t necessarily have to come from a dead body…IMO…in this case …it has!

Gators do shake and tear, but they also grab and pull you under the water.

Dak,

Caylee was healthy as per M.’s own words, so we can rule out that she was taking any heavy duty penicillins or she just had surgery.

Two dead bodies found inside Jennifer Hudsons Home in Chicago. Reports state, but not verified say it was Jennifer’s mother and her brother.

There are so many lakes in that area that chances are they were gators were in the lakes.

Jennifer Hudson, is a beautiful African American singer and actress who was a finalist on American Idol and who starred in Dreamgirls and got an Oscar I believe.

Jennifer Hudson was on American Idol and then she was in Dream Girls and won best supporting actress for her role.

ok brb

Cat

(from local news channel at 4:55 today)

A relative of Oscar-winning actress Jennifer Hudson is believed to be one of two people found slain in a South Side home, according to a police source.

According to public records, the home is owned by Darnell Donnerson, Jennifer Hudson’s mother.

Jennifer Hudson is not injured, her bodyguard told the Tribune before referring all questions to a publicist.

The source said the bodies of a man and woman were discovered by a family member about 3 p.m. in the home in the 7000 block of South Yale Avenue.

Further details were unavailable.

one body is female, the other male

both adults according to another story

where are you gals getting this info ???

Hey sabrina…gotta send me some email too..did you share an article with Cat? I like informative info too…

kris, did you ever get my email ?

I think I may go eat now with my daughter..check out what they say on inside edition about that. Then stop in later to chat. That is terrible to happen to anyone, god this world is really making me sad at an alarming rate of speed…can’t imagine how bad it will be when my daughter grows up. It’s awful now.

sabrina..the only one I got was the one with the pic of Caylee and JP..if you have another one resend it over I will look for it after dinner…bbl..getting hungry.

Sabrina – see Cat’s post at 4:59 and mine at 4:58 for who Jennifer Hudson is

Bri,

I replied

I remember Jennifer…her mom and her brother killed?…OMG

ok catherine, gonna go check…brb

Cat – that is so sad. She’s a sweet girl.

I’m shakin…i mean…how many cases have we heard of since being in this room where a child has either been used as a pawn, kidnapped or murdered….3 that i can think of in the past 2 weeks…at the very least…that is 3 that have actually been reported…I hate what the world I am leaving, someday, my kids alone in….

catherine, in coming shwoop !

CA – we always hear about the bad stuff and never the millions of good things that counteract all of the nastiness.

In the old days, there may be been less violent crime but there were other violent predators, particularly disease. Think how many people died of infections or even flu.

The world has always been an exquisitely beautiful and exquisitely dangerous place.

Well, I say to hell with the forensic evidence, throw it all out.

We all know that, regardless of if it was murder, accidental homicide, kidnapping or anything else, all that girl did is party like there was no tomorrow, steal money from friends and family, and lie to everyone and his brother about absolutely everything.

She should be tossed in jail for a good long time even on the strength of just that.

snookers,

I agree with you.

All I can say is that I wish most of the people here were either on the payroll of the media (ie: NG, et al) or on the prosecution.

we’d get this this whipped into shape quick, straight to trial, bing bang, then off to prison she goes for life or needle in her arm, she can pick for all I care. as long as she never gets out.

We’d help find that baby and give her the decent, dignified resting place she deserves and wrap it up by making sure the Ants never made another dime off this tragedy.

catherine, i replied

yeah, allie – Hope only describes how we feel about how quickly we can find her remains and give them the dignity her caricature of a family refuses to grant.

Sabrina, Come back.

Come on, Bri.

Yes, he did. Most of those scientist look like Dr, Irwin Corey. LMAO

Allie,

I was on her Facebook and so was Gumshoe. That door banged from morning to night. She was crying she was talking to girls 18-35 gettting ready for her premiere at the cement Holiday Inn. They were all skanky.

Cat – you were on C’s facebook??

CA – well said. Emotionally vacant. Big hysterical gestures, little or no tears.

OMG – I’ve often thought C was an emotional teenager. That proves it.

you know, if this were just about the Ant family, I am to the point where they are just such a mess, I’d have to look away. it’s embarrassing what a train wreck they all are, and have apparently been for quite awhile. like a Jerry Springer show on steroids.

but we can’t look away because if we do we will stop looking for that little girl and she does not deserve to be eclipsed by what these idiots have done with their lives, and hers.

None.

Did you see the photo that
i sent you with C. holding that little girls hand?

Cat – I didn’t get a photo.

whatever m was doing with a shovel and bag and all the computer searches, they have made excuses and defended every action well then why didnt she report her daughter missing right away? why didnt she act even once like a grieving mother? why did she state in the jail call “all thier worried about is caylee”? why didnt she help le in even the smallest way to find her daughter? all the lies and excuses no one has answred any of these questions all the family has done is try and potray this person as mother of the year!! no way in hell if a child is missing could i go cook dinner for someone not shed a tear, or go shopping in a store where im sure someone had a small child about that age that i would see, and not break down in tears, none of this family can explain why no one ever saw this so called sitter or whar m did all day when she was at work!! i can only hope that when/if the babys body is found they show some emotion of sadness instead of finger pointing at someone else, they really are pissing me off with thier calous treatment of this child!

maybee the family thinks if they prolong all the trial people will forget what all has happened then they could have it nice and quiet wile m walked out with still no explination for any of her actions! i for one wont forget i find it so unbelievable that a mother could show no feelings whatsoever and a family instead of helping le or looking themselfs is to busy making excuses there isnt any excuse good enough for the lack of remorse that has been shown!

anna – then they have another think coming. I don’t think NG will let this die and neither will a bunch of others out there. that child deserves justice!

cecy, you got mail !!! just kidding, but if i knew you addie i would mail you

L8trs Cecybeans!!

bye all – I’ll be back for round deux!

Bri, Your just a little mailman aren’t you?

just heard a advertisment for ng supposidly theres a new bombshell, wonder what?

I just can’t stand the whole family except caylee, and the grandparents.

hmmm who else can i email ??? ???? ???????
i’m a multi tasker, i can actually email and blog at the same time, i amaze myself !

I wonder if the grandfather knows she dead. Thise old people know eveything because they watch the news all day just like my mother inlaw. She calls me and tells me everything that is going on with the senate. Watches CSPAN all day then switches over to CNN.

Bri, Maybe you can go get MAMA?

i must be an old 51 cause i watch the news alot, i like to be in know…but this presidential crap is getting on my last nerve…it’s already decided any way, no need to vote…hey catherine, (YOU GOT MAIL) !

What do you guys have against some honesty here…is this all become a joke out of my honesty…I am sure I am not the only here…and your continuing to patronize my honesty is uncalled for…what’s up here?

brb, gonna go snoop around for mamabear

We are talking about our personal lives not about anyone on this blog. I like you very much and as you know I have never held back saying how I feel about anything. Some of have formed friendships, and email each other about things that do not pertain to the subject of this blog.

maybee we should take a poll, how many people do you know that have hair in thier car? then how many people with hair in thier car have a death ring on them? how many people you know with kids that are missing? and how many of these people would wait even 24 hrs to report them missing, bet if you ask your neighbors wed all get about the same response huh?

well i just took a trip looking for mamabear, think i looked on every day on the calender lol, glad you’re here mama…shew i nearly got lost lol

HEY CA. I WENT THRU THOSE SAME FEELINGS AT FIRST. CALM DOWN SWEETIE.

Yes, I give out my business account online and my personal account is shared by both my husband and myself. If there is something important that I don’t wish to share with my secretary I tell my friends to use my personal email. What is wrong with that?

Hi mama…your so sweet..thank god you didn’t run me over too…I figured of my request, i would be toast…just MO..but didn’t really appreciate the continued digs…

ONLY DON’T USE CAPS

WELL, I WASN’T HERE AND CAN’T GO READ CUZ AM KINDA DUMB THAT WAY. BUT I DO MEMBER THINKING THE SAME THANG AS U DO NOW. THESE GIRLS DO EMAIL ALL THE TIME.

Caylee-Angel

Let’s just calm down. No one is disrepecting anyone, epecially you. We have been blogging with you for some time and we all really like you. Please, let’s just stop this and just move on.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHH GIRLS
IT’S OK. WE ARE ALL CALMING DOWN. PLEASE DON’T ANYBODY GET UPSET RIGHT NOW OR I WILL HAVE TO FIND AN AMBIEN

SWEETIE—–HONESTY THEY DO THAT ALL THE TIME. LOL I PROMISE. I JUST IGNORE IT CUZ I CAN’T KEEP UP WITH THE EMAIL THANGY

I don’t know if there are blogging rules, but If there are rules books I would like one too.

K, moving on…I love you guys…just don’t patronize me..i’m not an idiot wher you can have a laugh on me by saying things like ,,,I amaze myself..I can blog and email at the same time…NOT NECESARRY AND IMMATURE …WHO CAN I EMAIL NOW..That kind of thing hurts people and causes problems …

So?

bri..your being totally unreasonable…back off..you have already been immature about the situation…

HAY!!! What the heck is goin on in here??? Is everybody ok???? HAY CAYLEE~ANGEL YOU AINT GOIN NOWHERE!! PEOPLE ROUND HERE NEED TO START RESPECTING EACHOTHER AND EACHOTHERS RIGHTS TO WHAT WE ARE AND ARENT COMFORTABLE WITH!! I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE HECK IS GOIN ON BUT I AM FOR ONE NOT LETTING CAYLEE~ANGEL GO AWAY…BULLSHIT!!!

SHHHHHHHH CA. LETS ALL JUST GO GET A DRINK OF WHAT EVER U ARE DRINKIN AND A PIECE OF CHOIC CAKE AND REST BRAINS FOR A MIN.

CA———–SHHHHHHH

I AM CRYING HERE. COME ON GIRLS. I LOVE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AND WE DON’T NEED TO BE FIGHTING. NO WAY

I aint in no clique with personel emails so does that mean im assed out to..screw that!!! Since when has this blogg just been about the topic up top….so now to bring up anything personal we have to email it…wow ok i have a great idea lets ask Jan what we can and cannot do on this blog since its all in question now…Im not tryin to be a bish at anyone I just think this is ridiculous I come in here and Ask how ppl are doin for the day and hows things have been goin..in fact i mentiond earlier it was my daughters bday this weekend..no one told me we cant talk personel in here..whats goin on I need to understand this..I dont want Caylee~angel or anyone to go awya!!

Caylee-Angel

That was not neccessary to say that. Not Appreciated!

I’m trying to end this matter regarding personal emails.

me too mama this is crazy.

yeah bump, respect is right, and if you respect a person you don’t need to control that person, or place rules, especially your rules…right on bump…i’m done…i think i’m so totally done, i’m gonna find some other things to do on another web site

LETS TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND GROUP HUIGG
COME ON GROUP HUGG

hi catherine.

HAY I GOT A GREAT IDEA HOW BOUT YOU ALL BACK OFF OF EVERYTHING THIS IS RIDICULOUS….WE DONT COME IN HERE TO FIGHT AND HAVE DRAMA CASEY ANTHONY BRINGS ENUFF OF IT TO THIS BLOG!!

AND CAYLEE~ANGEL HUGS TO YOU TOO..

SABRINA EVERYONE HUGS TO ALL..BUT NO ONE IS ASSED OUT CUS THEY ARE NOT ON A EMAIL LIST..I FOR ONE AM NOT ON THAT LIST AND I FOR ONE AM NOT ASSED OUT OF EVERYTHING…I HAVE BEEN ON HERE SINCE AUG AND HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHATEVER MY HEART WAS CONTENT…WETHER IT MONSTER CAYLEE C & G OR MY DAY OR ANYONE ELSES LIFE AND DAY AND I HAVE MADE GREAT FRIENDS IN HERE SOO I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD JUST BACK OFF!!! IF YOU CANT TAKE IT DONT DISH IT IS THAT HOW WE ALL TALK TO ONE ANOTHER NOW….HMMM SOUNDS KIDISH IM 30 AND I DONT TALK THAT WAY TO ANYONE….HMMMM

this is all so sad.

Twatever I dont care whatever..
Catherine hugs to you to..whatever tho…lets all just talk whatever way we want thats cool im glad I hang out in this playpen…

So anything new for ms monster today???

caylee angel, i’m right here if you have someting to say about me, say it to me

stop being immature

mama wonder who requested preacher?

THEY SAID HE IS THE ONE DOIN THE CANDLE THANG AT CHURCH

yah, I’m the immature one…how bout jan read the posts and let her decide SABRINA!

GOODNIGHT LADIES

Yah that tramp bettah pray and pray hard cus one lone hairs sendin her to the chair…walkin the green mile….walkin the green mile!!

SABRINA..YOU MAY BE A FAV OF SOME BUT DOES NOT EXEMPT YOU FROM BLOGGER ETIQUETTE!

mama and bump…see ya in the morning. xo

See yah in the mornin xoxoxoxoxoxox to the tenth powah!!!

mama,pretty soon our man will be here to search

I KNOW SHARON….. AND U WILL GO? RIGHT

BRI THAT WASN’T NICE

bri – think I have seen enough of your 180 personality…I was not banned…hubby was and I am not going there, hubby is a big boy and you don’t know him so don’t even bother….glad you got e-mail friends…anything else?

yes mam mamabear, i’m done…hey i’m cool, not gonna sweat it no more…wooo lets talk about something else, i was gonna say something else, but i guess i’ll stop it…grrr biting my tongue and lip

everyones gone?

i’m off too, i think (I GOT MAIL)

My post at 5:37 to Caylee-Angel was polite and mature to her request with regard to the emails.

It’s a shame that friends are torn apart over this.

you know what mama, i for one really like you i dont want you to go please dont 🙂 {{{{hugs}}}}, i know im the new oerson here but seema like you all were friends with one common concern, its been a long few months, and you guys have all been here together dont stop now caylee needs ALL of you!

Temper are hot because it’s just a bad day for Caylee. We were hooping for more from the FBI and everyone is just upset. I’m sorry if I upset you.

mamabear, come back, we’re not arguing now

I am hoping that after a few minutes everyone has calmed down enough to really think what we are doing to each other. We are ALL friends, and have much to contribute to this blog and one another.

Anita,

It’s ok now.

Catherine, I hope so. I was really upset when I saw MAMAS posts.

MAMA!!!!

We are here and hateever happened we love you and it would not be the same without you!

We all have hope that your amn Paddy and my man Tim brings little Caylee home.

Dont lose sight everyone!

I hoping that MAMA will see that we all get off track sometimes, but we all have come to love one another.

i know its ok, ill talk in the morning goodnight and sweet dreams and hopefully everyone will get thier caylee prayer for the night i know i for one will be waiting for it, thanks, anna

Wow, I’ve been gone all day and just got on to see that there’s been a blow up. I’m sorry that people are upset and hope you guys can work something out– maybe consider putting aside differences for the sake of the fight for Caylee and for the sake of all of us bloggers. We all enjoy communicating with all those involved (directly & indirectly), so I hope you guys can move past this.

MAMA,
You are not a pain. We don’t just “put up with you” – we adore you! ANd we get confused sometimes, too.

We do need you. You offer so much here on this blog. You share your hard-earned wisdom with us. But you even go farther than that–you also do it with style and humor (IN SPADES!).

You are a rare jewel, and we’re lucky to have you here with us.

I know you’ve been really stressed out lately about Caylee. Most of us have gone through this, as well. Some of us take a break to try to de-stress and come back with vigor, ready to speak out once again for justice for Caylee.

Maybe seeing a few people get into an argument is just too much for you, considering how stressed you’ve been. That is completely understandable. If you have to take a break, I for one will respect that. But if so, please do not go away forever. Please come back!

We are your friends, and we value your friendship.

**************

If Caylee could, I am sure she would say thank you to everyone here for caring so much about her. But she cannot speak because her voice has been silenced. She will speak no more.

For her sake, I hope we can all stay together as one group and continue to raise our voices to speak for Caylee.

She is worth it!

Okay ladies. Another thing is bothering me. Casey’s first LE interview says she dropped off Caylee on June 9, the same day (surprise!) as Cindy first told police. LV was later telling LE that she might have gotten the dates wrong because she was influenced by C’s ranting. And of course C changed it when she realized she had taken Caylee with to see her father. But that’s an important piece of circumstantial eviden. Okay, no matter WHAT happened to your daughter, wouldn’t ANY mom at least pay attention to what day it happened? Especially if you have diarrhea of the mouth when it comes to every other little detail?

I can see where C made a mistake with the date, but how on earth could M have done it? (I know, residual chloroform muddled mommy’s thoughts).

catherine, you’re right, yet i don’t like being attacked or insulted, when that happens i go on the attack…no one here has the right to push their ideals on another…so sorry that anyone got their feelings hurt by not getting emails, and the simple words (you got mail) pissed them off, ya know (you got mail) isn’t proper blog edequit…so maybe jan can tell us what the rules are and pass out the rule book, until then i will say what i want to anyone and everyone, i never attack or insult until i’ve been attacked or insulted or someone i like has been attacked or insulted, i’ll defend anyone who has been unrightfully attacked

Cecy,
I am in the house now but I need to know what is going on? Where is Bump and where is MAMA going?

And CAt? I am confused.

No Sabrina but sometimes you do accuse people of being other people.

okay, so my question is, when did G suddenly decide he saw them on June 16th? How long after M’s first LE report tagging the date at June 9th?

Also, it would have been better if the Body Farm had FOUND squirrels in that car, because M went to a lot of trouble to spread that rumor to explain her car smell way before it was really necessary.

also, the forensics report said that the decomp was “early”, like 2 or 3 days. Do you think it was because she was in the trunk only a couple of days, or because she was transferred there a couple of days later from the backyard and the fluid was from a body a few days old.

If that’s the case, then she needed to get rid of her remains way earlier than June 27. Maybe M told Amy she “got rid of the squirrel smell” then because that’s when she threw the pizza in the trunk.

Come on brainiacs! I need your help! Inquiring Minds Want To Know!

Cat,
Confused about what happened. I have not been here since yesterday afternoon and apparently something has happened that quite a few of us bloggers are wanting to leave.

Will the real Dak please stand up..please stand up…. 🙂 just a lil side humor!!

oh dak, not now. we need to stop being sensitive to peoples blog-iquette styles and just get on with what we’re really here to do

it’s Friday and everyone is tired so we all need to overlook any accidental faux pas and start directing our bile to where it belongs, the outrageous Anthony Family Circus.

Mama, come back and round everyone up!

BOP,

That’s was just perfect. LOL

Anita,

We are not leaving.

Cat – that is what is so distressing about this evidence. it may not help nearly as much win the case as the other more circumstantial stuff.

BOP you are a riot! Tuna. It’s prolly why she didn’t even notice until way later when she dumped the vehicle.

DAK yes one big blogger family thats it…thats what we have been…I love it here..DAK you are a geniouS!!!

well, I don’t mind if we have a tiff or two, just as long as no one calls us “biddies”. That’ll make me kick ass and take names.

Mama, get your butt in here. Don’t make me get that sheet!

Bri, So are we allowed to say those three words or not?

Joo dot snail mail…. 🙂 sorry

cecy — The June 9th date has always bothered me, as well. Seems too much of a coincidence for both of them to get it wrong. Good idea–I’ll see if I can find the first instance of each using the date. Maybe that will explain it. Or maybe not!

While I’m at it, I’ll search for George’s first instance of reporting seeing them on June 16th.

I still need to read the newly released forensics reports. I’m also planning on researching some stats regarding forensic evidence and reports (such as checking out science-whore Kobi’s idea that non-relatives could share the same DNA as Casey & Caylee — maybe it’s true, but maybe it’s 1 in 5 million).

I’m on it! Got my homework assignment. Good questions!!

I feel as good as I’ve ever felt that m will be found guilty. (kobi is grasping and stretching, seems to me–he’s not being objective).

Hi Cat! I laughed & laughed yesterday about Monopoly memories! 😉

Bri, Where can I talk to you in private?

TEX!! muh gurl wasssup ????? busy as usual lately i see at least theres no hurricane keepn you aways….

that’s what I love about this joint. eighteen threads going on at once – some personal, some not – this is not a very linear blog, which is why it’s so interesting. it’s like being at a dinner party where some people are having conversations in the corner and some are talking to the group. you can jump in and out of both. it goes so fast sometimes none of us can keep up!

I have been talkin about non Caylee related topics on here for awhile for instance with Gumshoe or Therapist or TEX also and I have never once been told what I can and cannot say not by any blogger nor JAN or SIMON…I dont think it matters we are a network of ppl that have forged friendships with one another it is only natural that we have non Caylee conversations with one another from time to time or regularly for that matter….so until JAN and SIMON tell us otherwise I wouldnt worry about it..just let it go…Im sure this is gonna get JANs attention cus someon will prolly email her making a complaint im sure but we have been talking about stuff other than this case alot at times and we have never had any “rule book” laid down on us..I doubt JAN is worried about it if we have other conversations besides the case we have all become friends I think its natural!!!! I mean as humans anyways….

So, that snswere the question then. if you were told to put your personal question in an email and tell the person they have mail let’s abide by those rules.

YES CECYBEANS exactly its very laid back and thats what I like I can talk to 5 diff ppl about 10 diff things some relating to the case some relating to how the weather was and if someone is feeling well..thats what I like about it in here…and I think if JAN wasnt allright with it she would of said so a long time ago!!

I say we just stay put and blog our little hearts out. If you want to send someone an email you can say “ugm” that’s even better.

Catherine Ive never been informed that I had to put personel conversations into email..so I dont kno about that and until I am told by a blog administrator Im gonna continue the way we always have…out in the open…

No Dak we are a blogg family we have been for sometime that statement was priceless to me…cus we are family…!!! Caylee we love you!!

ALrighty then we have BOP doing it the old fashion way. I’m cool with that.

Bri,

Your in this school and your staying with the rest of us. We are family, I got all my sisters with me. Oh, yea and brothers too,

okay, so who wants to dress up like a member of the clergy and go visit M???? we need an inside scoop!

I think Bri could pull it off.

I think I have a nuns costume from a Halloween party. I could wear that.

Jan has already stated that personal notes and asides are fine — because she’s noticed that we always get back to the topic of the blog. As long as everyone is considerate, it will work out. Not perfectly, I’m sure. But hopefully everyone can move past any issues that arise.

CIT,

Thank you getting that message from Jan.

TEX how is your daughter????? Qute as evah???

Bri, Are you here?

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Bumples – I have GOT to find a poem I wrote for my niece when she turned 2. I’ll find it and share it wit ya! Your girl sounds precious!… pizzie! lol ..

My midget!!! roflmao. hmmm, well, I am 5’4″ and my midget is 6’2″! He passed me up long ago. But he’s doing very well. Thanks.

cecy–so true! And your hubby sounds like my eldest wheeler-dealer bro. He’d talk one of us into trading Park Place for Baltic, with a side deal of not having to pay the first 3X we landed on the PP/Boardwalk… or some such nonsense. Always making deals and charging ILLEGAL interest rates! lol (he’s in real estate now!)

bump, i will it’s a promise ! i’m cooling down or at least trying to

CIT – well it sounds like he had good training! i have refused to play ever since. my sis is a Scrabble champ and I don’t go near that one either…

WOW Sabrina it dont even work that well with my kids…

BOP – LMAO. I just tell people I’m not getting older, my brain is getting fuller. full of crap, mostly.

BOP – isn’t that pammyliz?

yeah, bri – but Kobe’s gonna say that it could be half the population of China too.

Let’s just hope those jurors aren’t total tards. Because everything he’s saying lately sounds like M thought it up herself!

bri – a good prosecutor will keep the jury from buying all kinds of nonsensical shit.

heck, all they have to do is listen to the first week of Ant jail calls and they’ll know what’s up.

what the sh-t, now that other woman is saying is the hair humanoid or other…what other ? are they gonna say it might be canine, like their dog never poo poo’ed in the neighbors yard

my sis was the foreman on a murder trial in CA. It was a creepy case where this chick – who didn’t normally go out much – met a guy in a bar and he drugged, raped and murdered her. tried to make the jury think she was into drugs. A lot of testimony (from ex-wives he’d beat up) and other evidence was not allowed.

It was really hard for them to do it on the available evidence. The night before deliberation my sister had a dream where the victim came to her and asked her to help find justice. When she went back the next day, she asked for the evidence and transcripts so they could review them another time. They ended up finding him guilty despite all the stuff that didn’t come out.

She became friends with the family of the victim and got to meet them and all the victim’s friends. They were so grateful. She had had a little boy who stopped talking when his mother died, and never talked again after that. It was so sad. But she was so happy that she had that dream.

well, unclear antecedents. The victim had the little boy, not my sis.

hi anna – welcome back!

bump – Yes, it’s Pammy who has the wee girl — the girl who told her mom to “get her a– in the kitchen!” I’m still LOL at that.

When Kobi played monopoly, he probably insisted that the dice isn’t reliable because the table wasn’t perfectly stable. Or wind blew in from an open window and made the dice roll over just one more time. He was really meant to roll double 6’s! Then later that night, his brothers dipped his toothbrush in the toilet when he wasn’t looking! rofl (he caught them one night, and that’s when he asked Santa for his first science kit!!!!) rofl….

Cat – pefecto! At the very least write a book and give the royalties to Tim.

oooh, gotta go. dinner – dessert is tiramisu my fave.

Say, that little shit is getting pepper steak with gravy tomorrow for dinner.

sabrina — rofl!

cecy,

Are you coming back?

Bri – every woman should have “a room of one’s own”.

Anna Banana! Cat – that was one of my daughter’s favorite books when she was little!

Bri, RALMAO You did not kick your husband out of your bedroom. Did you?

cat @ 9:24 no you didnt my kids call me that sometimes, i dont get offended easy, just trying to make everyone here realise they are ALL needed and loved and WANTED!

where is kris ? damn it ! she’s supose to be on vacation ! no wonder she’s not here lol

She watching scaring movies eating pasts.

cit@ 9:27 only kidding 🙂 anna bananna:) my aunts name was cipriana she got called super bananna,(spanish) and prob spelled wrong 🙂

i think bumples is the cutest name 🙂

I wonder if that preacher taking M. confession.

catherine, i certainly did, he’s not allowed in MY bedroom…EVER !…i don’t sleep in my room either, i always sleep on the couch, but he’s still not allowed lol and i don’t clean his restroom either or wash his clothes LOL

Pammyliz’s daughter told her to get her arse in the kitchen ahahahahahah my daughter told her dad that his feet smell like crap yesterday…he said hey baby smell my feet and she said they smell like crap…it was

Bri,

Are you sure your married?

I want a husband like yours.

my maden name was hand can you all immagine what i put up with , “anna head” “banabba hand” “etc”

I wonder if the defense wants to throw out the Target tapes of M. shopping next, could have been a body double.

Expert: Not good news for mom
Donald Jones, a University of Miami law professor who is not connected to the case, said the reports don’t prove Caylee’s body was in the trunk because they were only “consistent” with the presence of a decomposing body.

“If you’re building a house, it’s a brick, not a wall,” Jones said. “It’s a nail in her coffin, and that coffin already has a lot of nails.”

Still, he said, the defense has a difficult battle and needs evidence that leads away from Casey Anthony as a suspect.

“Casey needs good news,” he said. “This is not it.”

I like that new doctor on NG. He is very cute

BOP,

That spells murder to me. Brick by brick until she built herself a prison, and there she will stay till she dies.

IS C. going to concede those photo’s were taken after June 16th.

Werd Catherine thats waht it sp3lls to me too. murder thats what she built is her own conviction wether she takes her story to the grave or not shes building her own prison cell and we will prolly never hear the truth from her but its otay cus shes building it brick by brick…that was Caylees precious corpse in that car and she really cant deny it now…BB better get a death row attorney to help cus she could get the death row conviction…

Screw C all Monsters friends thru her under the bus its to late let her run her stupid mouth no one is listening anymore I mean she should be out searching for Caylee in Puerto Rico or wherever instead of running her mouth all over the media outlets…

When G. says the person in the back of my daughters car is not my grandaughter, who is it then? Because making a statement like that is admitting that there was a perosn in the back of the car.

So when you are in jail do they give you underwear and bras?

Hi Ya’ll
Hope everyone is well…

Hi, Amy

Hi Cat!
What a week on the Ants front, huh?
Interesting about momster seeking a clergy.

Don’t you think?

I wonder does she want to confess?

Who set up the clergy appt? C. or M?

That’s what I was thinking… that perhaps momster’s consciousness was finally kicking in?

I hope so. It would save a lot of heartache for everyone.

He said she stayed over on the 12th and then again on June 16th, but not June 15th.

brb

The tests also found “an unusually large concentration of chloroform” in the trunk, according to the Oak Ridge report. Chloroform can be used to render someone unconscious. However, trace amounts of chloroform were also found on a control carpet sample, the report said.

wow that explains alot on the charges…very interesting watson….

Lawyer’s spokesman says evidence doesn’t link Casey to any wrongdoing

For real I mean I always drive around with a trunk full of decomposing children and chloroform..sheez aint that the new thing…golly

AMEN!!!

0n that note Gnite all..see you manyana

Hi C4C – i always come back to read your prayer even if i don’t have time to post. thanks again for smoothing out the wrinkles in our day.

I think we discussed earlier that there were no conclusive prints on the shovel in the trunk.

You know, even if the defense goes off the deep end and tries to cast doubt on things – say somebody else did it, forensic evidence isn’t airtight, etc. – absolutely NO other scenario makes any sense at all and still doesn’t explain why M was out partying La Bella Vida while whatever was going on went on.

Unless BB has a copy of the kidnapper instructions that said M had to party till she dropped, smoke weed, cook pasta and do laundry for all the boys and steal money from her friends while she was out in bars “looking for leads”.

And even then, who else, but a stone-cold killer could have even pulled that off?

Saturday Jail Menu

BREAKFAST

cup oatmeal
3/4 cup gravy
2 slices bread
pkt jelly
2 pkts margarine
pkt sugar
cup calcium beverage

LUNCH

1 1/4 cup beef-a-roni
1/2 cup green beans
2 slices bread
brownie
cup Vit C beverage

DINNER

4 oz pepper steak
2 oz pepper gravy
cup yellow rice
1/2 cup mixed vegetables
2 slices bread
1 ea. cookie/cake
Vit C beverage

yea me too. I also think there was dissappointment in that most of the evidence released we already knew about so nothing relly new to talk about

Good morning all.. sorry my A** was in the kitchen where my 3 year old put me……LOL
just got out of there…LOL
no I had a 12 hour day all day and was reading yeterdays blogs.. don’t have alot of time again now but wanted to ask what do you all think about them saying she was alive when placed in there and then died in there? to me this is so clear no matter what KOBI says… a live caylee hair and then a dead caylee hair… a no brainer here, she died in that trunk!!!???

Good morning, pammyliz and Everyone!

There is a new article today if you would like to blog under that.

It is article # 118328

Title: Caylee Anthony – No Smoking Gun From The FBI Lab

Date: Oct 25

Lilred: can you get to the main home page for bloggernews.net

After net type in a backslash / and then the number 118328 and then click Enter

Thank you!!!