This update just in from TJ Hart – Simon
Still more jailhouse video of Misty Croslin Cummings’ phone conversations with her mother were released Thursday by St. Johns County Jail officials.
Misty Croslin Cummings, the last person to see missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings more than one year ago, is being held in the St. Johns County Jail on drug charges carrying a $1.35 million bond.
In the video, Cummings said she thinks about Haleigh all the time.
WJXT-TV Video:
Misty To Mom: I Think About Haleigh
It appears Misty has cooled to the possibility of changing lawyers and possibly getting out on bail through the offer made by bounty hunter Leonard Padilla.
Audio: Donna Brock
Listen to this at WSKY
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI wonder who was Donna talking too? How many times does she have to say she is “one of the good guys”? What does that really mean? And WHY would she not want this person to contact Ron and Misty?? I cry b.s.!!
I want to know more about this whole seeing Cousin Joe holding Haleigh in the doorway and being scared stuff. Is it BS or is there some truth in it. I’m really afraid that if LE is so content in the fact that Misty has all the answers, but then she really does not know, that they will never find Haleigh. They need to bark up at all of the outstanding trees, not just one.
Was donna talking to a woman or a man? kh
Thanks Simon and Jan for the new updates. I appreciate all of your efforts to keep us informed.
Misty is angry and comes across arrogantly. She now seems to stay aware she is being taped and that it will be released to the media in this clip.
I wonder who Donna is talking to? I think the reason she said it would not do any good to write to Misty so Misty could tell she was no drug dealer is because they are co-defendants as well as Ron. They were all caught in the same sting operation, therefore Ron and Mistys testimony would not be credible to help prove she is no drug dealer. Donna is one strange woman. All I can say whether it was her first time or not she got caught dealing with all the rest and now she is labled like the rest. Birds of a feather flock together.
Sure glad a new thread was posted, the others were too long.
khintx said,in March 5th, 2010 at 10:20 am
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I thought it was a woman.
Shockwave said,in March 5th, 2010 at 10:19 am (snipped) — I’m really afraid that if LE is so content in the fact that Misty has all the answers, but then she really does not know, that they will never find Haleigh. They need to bark up at all of the outstanding trees, not just one
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So true – ITA
LFJ I agree with you about Misty.
It was very upsetting to hear her comments regarding Haleigh. It is extremely sad to know that this is all a “reactionary” act for the camera and that her message to the viewers is once again to kiss her a**.
Pathetic doesn’t even come close to how I would describe what I saw and heard on the video.
It sounded to me like Donna was talking to an older woman
Shockwave That info came from Chelsea Croslin ( Timmys wife ) Chelsea said Misty said. Chelsea has already denied saying that. She said Leonard Padilla got it all twisted. Chelsea did stay with that Misty woke up and saw cousin Joe standing over her and it scared her. We have not heard if Misty has verified that. It does make me wonder why Chelsea would put out that statement. Then I start wondering if Misty was at Timmys home, because that is where cousin Joe was staying or were they at Rons home ‘IF’ and when this actually happened. I say this because LE has already came out and said the beds in Rons home were made.
It appears Putnam Co has a major drug problem, which did not happen overnight, based on all the drug arrests. All of these arrests make the narcotic unit look good BUT where are all the arrests of the person(s) behind the scenes who supply the drugs to the lower level sellers/traffickers?
In one of the jailhouse conversations between Misty and her Dad, he asks if she thinks Ronald will go away for a long time and she says yes. Then he says for the drugs I mean and quickly says oh nevermind…what else does Hank think or know Ronald is involved in, I wonder? I think Misty is covering for Ron in Haleighs disappearance and has been since day one.
LFJ,
I am not sure if LE had officially come out and revealed that the beds were not made. Do you know if there is a link to which LEO made that statement exactly?
Too I wonder what that MH looked like prior to LE going in to investigate? Was it clean or was it an untidy mess and if so did it possibly seem that the beds being made was out of the ordinary or? If the bed was made then who made it? Can touch DNA be done to determine who made that bed if were indeed true that it was made?
Just a few questions that for me are swirling around right now.
The things someone finds most attractive about you in the beginning are usually the same things they hate about you in the end.
Nothing to do with this……just a thought…
Tuff, You know I am honestly not sure if LE themselves came out with that info. I just know that has been reported here and more media outlets along with Tim Miller. I can only believe this info is correct and confirmed. I do think this would fall in the PCSO statement that they have physical evidence that tells a different account of events than what Mistys story is. I know Misty said she washed the blanket over the window that she put on the bed she was to be sleeping in. I am sure there is a way to get dna from the linen on that bed. I am just not sure what method they use. I know Teresa Neves said there was always dirty laundry, but that is the extent of it.
“Armando said,in March 5th, 2010 at 11:26 am The things someone finds most attractive about you in the beginning are usually the same things they hate about you in the end.
Nothing to do with this……just a thought…”
It’s better to be hated for what/who you are than to be hated for what/who you are not?
Seems logical enough.
Hey Armando. So good to see you post.
This is not the first taping of Misty talking about Haleigh, and you need to remember that we are only hearing what THEY want us to hear. I’m not 100% positive Misty is innocent of not knowing anything, but I’m almost sure she did not harm that child on purpose. If it comes out in the future that Misty knew that Haleigh was gone, but yet she was saying Haleigh could still come home…still be found…then I will want the book thrown at her. The drug charges are necessary and I agree, but as a first time offender, and as young as she is, she won’t do more than 3 years.
I just now listened to the audio of the phone call with Donna Brock. Apparently Donna Brock truly doesn’t have very nice words for Tim Miller anymore. It almost seemed as if she was being protective of R and M with what she was saying to the person she was talking to on the phone.
Shockwave, You forget Misty is going in front of a jury and she has 8 counts. 8×3=24 even with only 3 years for each count it still comes out to 24 years. That is my prediction because Floridians are sick of all the drug dealers and she was seen on the videos as the mastermind in all the deals. jmo
Shockwave I guess my thoughts are more based on Misty’s comments and message to the public regarding the fact that Misty’s wants and prefers for everyone to kiss her a**. The polar opposite of that would be that she would instead be focusing on doing whatever she possibly could to aid LE in finding Haleigh.
Her choice of comments are beyond pathetic imvho.
I have also been wondering about Tommys B&E.
The finger print mentioned with the thumb scar,
could it be Misty rolled on Tommy when it may have been her and her friends? What made me think that was she rolled real fast on him and the items taken were more on the feminine side.
Towels, soap, sponges, we know she drinks and the games could have been gifts for the kids.
Just a thought on that one to throw out there. jmo
I wonder if the police looked for the shot gun in the culvert? Seems like a handy place to hide a gun, Rons gun showed up there once. jmo
Good afternoon. I wondered before if Ron’s mother went into the mobile home and tried to make it look presentable. She seems to be annoyed that Misty doesn’t keep it tidy. Misty is really looking like a nasty, spiteful little girl. As far as Donna B is concerned maybe she’s mad at Tim M because he hasn’t bailed her out.
CarolinVa,
It does make one wonder though. The dirty laundry that was found in the dryer has also been an odd thing to consider.
Tobias, did you listen to Levi Pages talk show from last Sunday? Cheryl Diettrich was on there and said she got some info yet it is not confirmed yet. There is credibility to the Tommy and Joe story. Cheryl was under the impression Misty Hated Haleigh. Cheryl also said that Timmy and Tommy both have been involved in b&es using bricks to prop the door open. Cheryl referred to it as a conspiracy to committ murder and the reason Misty is not coming out with it is because she cannot exonerate herself.
Mistys lawyer has told her she isnt helping her case by the way she acted before. She is trying to do damage control but not very well.
To me she still comes off as someone who only cares about Haleigh when the finger is pointed at her, I cant wait to see the whole tape and the visit before this one. jmo
Thanks LFJ I will go listen to the show. I had that theory for a long time since Tommy had prior access to the back door to unlock it.
The gun being stolen before and possible drugs in the MH that may have been stolen(not something Ron would declare missing). jmo
I believe I heard her mention Joe to on the B&Es signature ( proping the door with a brick). The only thing is if Misty is involved they would not of had to break in. We already heard Misty say that Haleigh F***ed up her 17th birthday. We also heard about what Misty told the legally blind neighbor ” to pray for her” in reference to watching someone elses children.
Although Misty backstepped when she made the comments about seeing four people. (She said something close to the affect that it seemed like a dream either before or after claiming that she did not have any dreams that night.)
I wonder if she were given another opportunity at being under hypnosis if it were possible that she could put faces and names to the four people she believes that she saw and if so who’s faces might they be?
FOR VAQUERA AND ME:
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/02/22/news/news0350.tnv
REMEMBER THE TAPE THAT YOU STATED WOULD BE ALL OVER THE NET WHEN RON ASKED THE UC FOR ‘”POWDER” AKA COCAINE……..WELL, GUESS YOU WHERE ONE OF THE CHOSEN FEW WHO MISSED HIM ASKING FOR SOME AND TELLING THE US HE LIKED TO GET HIGH.
THERE IS A BETTER VERSION ON YOUTUBE, BUT I’M SURE SINCE IT SHOW’S YOUR FRIEND’S SON IN A HORRIFIC LIGHT ASKING FOR EVEN MORE DRUGS, YOUPROBABLY WON’T EVEN BOTHER. WELL, HAVE A GREAT DAY ANYWAY AND HERE’S YOUR SIGN.
I have been reviewing Misty’s Hypnosis video this morning and am very curious that they where very interested in Tommy and not so much the A/C man. IMO the fact that the A/C man was in and or around that trailer for at least an hour begs for a little more sluething. It would be an oppertunity to unlock a window or perhaps make a key. http://www.wftv.com/video/20605182/index.html
What do we know about the A/C Guy that arrived at the trailer that night at around 5:30 and stayed about an hour?
Misty stated it was possible “Artic Air” and that Rons cousin’s ex worked there.
We know both of these individuals where questioned within an hour of the 911 call. Both where present and available for questioning and would of been the at the Top of the list of suspects as well as Misty and a SO/RSO. So if these two didn’t do it them elves who did they help to commit the crime and what would be a motive.
tuffstuff, I don’t think it would do any good to use hypnosis again because I really don’t yhink she was under hypnosis the first time. She used too many hand gestures to actually be under. jmo It seemed to me that she fought off smiling while “under” which leads me to believe she was just playing along in hopes of convincing them of her innocence.
I think Misty and Tommy set it up to blame Joe just like they did when the gun was stolen.
The only reason Joe isnt a prime suspect is because he passed his LDT and Misty messed up her story and failed all her LDTs. jmo
methinks, you very well maybe right, but, at least we have exactly what LE has to work with.
I also think her attorney has her convinced that she will either walk away with time served or some light sentence for the drugs…I sure hope thats not the case. I feel she knows much more than she says…but I don’t know what. I do know she should stay off the phone and stop the visits like casey anthony did…they make her look very guilty and uncaring…no matter what she says.
tobias,
What is your theory on Misty and Tommy?
I do not beleive Misty at all. You can see it in her eyes she is a big liar. I hope she stays in jail for a long time.
I feel there is something to the cousin joe theory…very suspicious if you ask me. He disappears the day haleigh goes missing, he sleeps in his clothes…I can’t help but think theres more to this guy that we don’t know.
Nancy grace transcript, Ron asking for Cocaine:
CUMMINGS: What you got? I hear you sniffling.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Huh?
CUMMINGS: What you got? I hear you sniffling.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
CUMMINGS: Roxies or something?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. My (EXPLETIVE DELETED) stays (EXPLETIVE DELETED), dude.
CUMMINGS: You got some good dope or something?
M. CROSLIN: (Laughs)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. No.
CUMMINGS: I like to get high, that`s why I was asking. If you had powder to let me know.
My question would be how would HaLeigh respon to cousin Joe? IMO the kitchen light allowed HaLeigh to see who it was and I would think she would not think it was alright to be going any where with cousin Joe. IDK
I’ve got a hunch, the benefactor DB was fast-talking to was looking for more… and it ain’t about the drugs! I think the comment of writing Misty, was about HaLeigh.
Just one,
I would love to know how does that information helping us look for HaLeigh?
I mean if there is a theory that HaLeigh was in that car while Ron was dealing or asking for a hook up and that is why she was taken over a year ago, then by all means lets get on that.
Pink Panther…. are you home?
Tobias could be right that they are setting up Joe. Why would you point the finger at someone who could take you down with them? It is better to set up someone that does not know what you have done, but has a criminal record and was in contact at some point.
Cheryl Diettrich said she could not believe she is agreeing with LP. She said Tommy and Joe . I wonder if she meant to say Timmy and Tommy ,because that is LPs theory.
Texasmommy, My theory has always been that Tommy had the oppotunity to unlock the back door since he was there earlier in the day. Ron said it was locked and it was until Tommy and the AC guy came over. Tommy had plans to get the gun again and possibly Rons drugs.
So he knows Misty may be going to babysit at Timmys that night also but Ron told Misty no at 8:30 and she turned her phone off. When Ron calls Tommy at 9:30 asking if Misty is there he assumes Misty went to Timmys. He enters the MH and turns on the light because no one is supposed to be there. Haleigh sees the light and thinks its her dad home from work. She goes to the kitchen and surprises Tommy he panics and well. Misty wakes up and sees Tommy and Haleigh is dead and they panic. They come up with the story they used earlier to blame Joe for stealing Rons gun. They stage the MH and Tommy gets rid of evidence. She calls him before Ron comes home to make sure everything worked out and then calls Ron but cant reach him. Ron pulls in and they call 911. jmo
Texasmommy39 said,in March 5th, 2010 at 1:45 pm Just one,
I would love to know how does that information helping us look for HaLeigh?
I mean if there is a theory that HaLeigh was in that car while Ron was dealing or asking for a hook up and that is why she was taken over a year ago, then by all means lets get on that.
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I posted it because Vaquera and me said it never was out there or it would have been all over the net, and is is- it shows how little they know about the players in this case. This transcript if from Feb 23rd. I do think HaLeigh’s disapperance revolves around drugs or she died accidentally of an overdose of Ron and Misty’s stash, of course they couldn’t call LE becuase it would have shown their involvement in drugs and they would have been worried about custody of JR, so they cover it up. Tn included.
Looking… I have been opened to Joe having a major role, but for some reason it just doesn’t seem like he’s that “down”, at least not from all that’s been but forth.
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in March 5th, 2010 at 1:43 pm I’ve got a hunch, the benefactor DB was fast-talking to was looking for more… and it ain’t about the drugs! I think the comment of writing Misty, was about HaLeigh.
Wow she was talking really fast! Do you care to share why that gave you a hunch?
Did anyone elses computer just change screens to a LA Bail bond
It almost sounded like gmasykes that DB was talking to. cent, now that you mention it…it does kind of sound like that is what her “friend” on the other end of the line was looking for. (info about haleigh) perhaps that is why donna was so quick to asy no don’t write to m or r…she may want to save that little diddy for her own bargaining tool.
Its possible, Tobias.
I would think that Misty and Tommy stayed within each others presence and the fact that the A/c man had more ability to move about without being watched while Misty and Tommy sat on the porch and watched the children play.
Never mind… I see what happened… Heee Heee!!!
Too much MI5’ing!!!
not mine
Tanya… MeThinks pretty much hit my thought right back. I’m very curious as to whether there has been more contact between the two. This benefactor made it clear… she didn’t think she could do anything else for DB’s current situation?!?
BAC I see what you mean. That is why I wondered if Cheryl D. meant to say Timmy and Tommy. It was Timmys van that got damaged. Cheryl said she was agreeing with LP and his theory is the Croslin brothers.
Tobias @1:58… a bumble bee popped up… how “fittin”! But I see where this “one” came from… the ads on the top right!!
Looking.. who is this Cheryl D?
Texas mommy, Tommy could have told her he was using the bathroom which would give him access while she watched the kids. No one else that we know of anyways had the opportunity to unlock that door. He is also in walking distance so there would be no car noises at the MH later to wake anyone. He probably thought in and out and back home no one would think he robbed the MH. JMO
m15/spook…you bet I’m home!
just one said,in March 5th, 2010 at 1:54 pm I posted it because Vaquera and me said it never was out there or it would have been all over the net, and is is- it shows how little they know about the players in this case. This transcript if from Feb 23rd. I do think HaLeigh’s disapperance revolves around drugs or she died accidentally of an overdose of Ron and Misty’s stash, of course they couldn’t call LE becuase it would have shown their involvement in drugs and they would have been worried about custody of JR, so they cover it up. Tn included. **************************************
Well thank you, I am more intersested in finding HaLeigh after a year and no longer interested in the personal side show unless it will reveale who has HaLeigh and who took and hid her..
Someone mentioned once if LE had any evidence from the van it would never have been turned back over to the Croslins. Which leads me to believe someone used the van and then used the scratches to frame Joe. jmo
Misty isn’t going to speak. Why would she? She does jail time for these drug charges…. & then it’s over. I’m sure she’ll get out on good behavior… & that’s it. –> If she confesses about Haleigh her life will probably be over. All the lies etc. Maybe Ron did do something.. but, there is no proof about ANYTHING anymore! Ron will blame her… she will blame him.. then what? It’s HILARIOUS b/c they aren’t saying — > Check other states for my child but more like…. “what dope can I do this week”…. Come on now. Either way… She won’t speak. She doesn’t GAIN anything from it. Getting out early? No…… she’ll just get more charges for it.
Cheryl Dietterich a well known prosecutor. She and Robin Sax were on the Levi Page talk show. Cheryl said she came across a bit of info, but it is not confirmed yet. Cheryl said it gives credibility to the Tommy and Joe theory, but it includes Misty, because she hated Haleigh. You must listen because I can’t remember some more of the significant factors. I want to say she got the info from LE but I am not sure. Apparently Timmy and Tommys M O is propping the door with a brick. I think she mentioned Joe too.
Cherry on top, Even if she does her time for drugs Haleighs case will be there when she comes out. There is no time limits on murder or kidnapping charges.jmo
tobias said,in March 5th, 2010 at 2:05 pm Texas mommy, Tommy could have told her he was using the bathroom which would give him access while she watched the kids. No one else that we know of anyways had the opportunity to unlock that door. He is also in walking distance so there would be no car noises at the MH later to wake anyone. He probably thought in and out and back home no one would think he robbed the MH. JMO
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The A/C man could of as well unlocked that backdoor. Tommy was going to steal what? As far as the car noise if you will take note of this arial photo you will take note of the street that is located directly in front of green lane and green lane is a dirt road that veers off of this paved road. Noise and visibility would not be a problem from this road.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=putnam+county+florida+map&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Putnam+County,+Florida&gl=us&ei=iOnASsmXKY6f8Aa3_r2lAQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1
Looking.. okay that I get ya!! Too many names to remember… Yes, that is a m.o of Joe’s per his family! I will listen as soon as I can.
Tobias If there was a conspiracy to murder and Misty is involved, there would be no B&E. Misty could of just let him in. That is even if it happened at Rons mobile home.
It could be Joe may know more or Timmy may know more. LE may be waiting for someone else to come forward with what they know. It may not be what Misty knows at all but what someone else knows about Misty. jmo
Similar to tobiass theory, it could have been that tommy and cousin joe may have planned to rob rons house for gun and drugs, misty went to a party, left the kids sleeping at home… they go there, do the deed and leave. Later cousin joe (being into young girls) returns without tommy, takes haleigh and does whatever and leaves the following day.just another possibility I guess.
I will try to catch up with you all later. It is time to pick up my kids. Have a good afternoon.
Tobias, that’s why I think she’ll squawk what she knows… if she hasn’t done so already. You notice Ma telling Tommy, that she thinks that’s what Misty is telling, the Mexicans. But I think that is a smoke screen… more to that.
I think Joe was set up because he isnt in jail and he has taken a poly and been interigated by LE and FBI. I think he is the fall guy, only things didnt turn out that way. jmo
Sorry! Wrong link. Here is the right one. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=202+green+lane+satsuma+florida+map&sll=29.626516,-81.778702&sspn=0.752057,1.579285&gl=us&g=Putnam+County,+Florida&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=202+Green+Ln,+Satsuma,+Putnam,+Florida+32189&ll=29.57314,-81.673286&spn=0.002939,0.006169&t=h&z=17
Tobias… I’m thinking what you’re thinking!!
BAC, Do you think maybe Misty lost it that night? And has been blaming everyone under the sun for taking Haleigh? Even Mexicans? I just dont know anymore what to believe. jmo
She fights with Ron on the phone and hangs up really mad. mad enough to turn off the phone.
Haleigh acts up and wham. She needs someone to help with what she has done, remember its all about me,me,me, someone come save me from the trouble I am in.jmo
Hi, looking for Justice!
Well I hate to say it but I guess someone is going to have to listen to that show to get things straight. Because it’s hard to believe that a “well-known prosecutor” “came across info” that’s “not confirmed yet AND that she would leak info that she got FROM LE(???) about this case or anyone involved in it. And up to now I’d only heard that it was Joe’s MO to prop open doors. And I’ve heard nothing in these terms about Timmy.
Anyway all it amounts to at this point is more gossip, gossip, gossip.
And gosh, we’ve had so darned much mis-information, I’m not interested in any more (but that doesn’t mean other people aren’t, of course).
Tobias… I’m still thinking that Misty nor Ron harmed HaLeigh directly. I will be very shocked if it’s proven that they did!! I see Misty doing a lot… but that I don’t see!! I could be wrong!!
Well if she did do it where would they of hid her body?
Mist had no car and her phone was turned off.
Tommy placed himself at the trailer at 10 pm how would he of hid the body? Where would he be able to hide HaLeigh and LE not be able to find her?
Tobias… if this makes any sense!!!
I think M cares for H… cause she is a child. But doesn’t care for H, cause she is a child of R’s.
Texasmommy, We have had that discussion early on and I dont have the stomach to rehash it again, sorry. jmo
Not only that but the evidence does show HaLeigh was alive and well when she left that trailer. LE had believed HaLeigh was alive, they had the vidence to suggest it.
BAC, Not just a child but his HEART. jmo
WthACherryonTop at 2:11 pm – You said, “She won’t speak. She doesn’t GAIN anything from it.”
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I am hoping that LE’s top priority is finding Haleigh or finding out what happened to her. So it may depend on how much they are willing to “deal” with her. If she and her lawyer really think she’s going to get 25 – 50 years (for example) on the drug charges, then maybe LE could offer 20 years or something if she tells. Not even charge her for whatever happened to Haleigh. M would be in jail a LONG time anyway. I don’t know. But LE needs to make it worth her while in some way. Otherwise what’s the point of the whole sting op and the point of that was to get her on as much trafficking as possible to justify the high bail – which was planned to make her want to talk.
Anyway I’m hoping LE has some deals up their sleeve or something – for anyone willing to talk (and to prove what they are saying)
Tobias… yes, that’s where it gets creepy for me. Someone pretending to love another’s child, to be with them and secretly harboring ill feelings.
BAC, Susan smith drowned her own sons for another man. jmo
Ohh yeah, Tobias… usually you see that with males taking on the role of Daddy… then all hell breaks loose!
Tobias yes… her “own” children.
Tobias @ 2:31 – That was one of my first theories from teh beginning. That M hurt Haleigh. Probably accidentally. Hit her too hard or something. It’s still one of my theories.
I don’t want to go into detail, either, about what happened next other than wonder who might have helped her afterwards.
Again, it’s a question of who’s going to get a deal to talk.
If T really thinks he’s only going to do 3 years on charges of gun theft, B&E AND the drugs, (on top of whatever record he already had) I think he’s dreaming. Somebody better wake him up about that.
I understand that theory just runs around in circles doesn’t it? But neverless it is the one everyone wants us to believe and my goal is to find HaLeigh and not leave no stone LEFT unturned to finally put it to rest and move on to the next.
BAC, This is just something that i thought of off the top of my head. What if Ron told her when she faked the pregnancy that he wanted no more kids. She wants kids and well he has two already.jmo
Well I am tired of theorizing on what may have been. I sure hope we get some proof out of these people soon. jmo
Hi, TM39! – It has sounded from what little LE has said that they may believe Haleigh was taken out of the trailor alive.
Unfortunately they could be wrong. They’ve said it was a non-stranger abduction because there were no signs of forced entry. Well we all know of cases where children were kidnapped by strangers and left no signs of forced entry. Also, the only sign that Haleigh passed away may have been pee on a blanket. And that proves nothing.
So I don’t know what to think.
Tobias… yes, that fake pregnant episode… got me thinking the same.
Tobias @ 2:32 – Exactly. It’s happened before. Look what happened to Caylee – and possibly because monster was dating a guy who said he only wanted sons (and Susan Smith, of course).
But if it was intentional it was not well planned or M did not follow through with it very well. Otherwise she would not have gotten herself in this mess.
TM39 – I think we all share that goal. I sure hope LE knows it. Because they could lock up forever all five they’ve got in jail right now but if we still don’t know what happened to Haleigh, a lot of us are not going to let LE off the hook.
M2C, Thats where the Joe is the fall guy theory comes in and who would have guessed he would pass a lie detector test? All fingers pointing at a known criminal who leaves right away, has a grudge with Ron, Misty claims he messed with her and the van. WOW a mountain of suspision on this guy. jmo
yes… Susan Smith… But what I am saying is that a lot of times we see non-blood related males, disposing of children that belong to their lover. Then you have Women disposing of their “own” children to keep a lover. You rarely have a chick that’s not blood related doing that!!
Is everyone so scared to connect the dots?
Please help HaLeigh.
IMO this is illegal change of custody and HaLeigh is very much alive.
She needs our help to make this right. Families should not be torn apart like this no matter what.
tobias, are we completely psitive that cousin joe passed a poly? maybe LE is trying to throw him off by saying he passed. just a thought.
Just watched the Misty tape again, I wonder if she said something before this? She refers to what she said the other visitation but she was just saying cause she was upset. Could it be from listening to the tape Ron made for LEthat got her upset? Just wondering since we havent heard the tape before this one. jmo
If he didnt I would hope he would be in jail. And I believe LE said he was not a person of interest at one time. jmo
tobias @ 3:01 – I agree. If what happened was not pre-planned, then it’s no wonder the staged scene was so poorly done (the combined “brain power?” of T and M????). And no wonder M couldn’t keep her story straight (possibly high and stressed and dumb she couldn’t remember what story she told first). And using Joe as the fall guy was a convenient after-thought.
Tobias… I think Misty was talking about the time she said they can all kiss my ass… and the NG comments… and the LP and firing her attorney!!
tobias @ 3:10 Could be. I got the impression she was talking about the time she was so mad at her lawyer, wanted LP to bail her out and get her a new one. I thought that because in this conversation she makes such a point of saying how hard her lawyer is working for her etc.
But we don’t really know what was on the tape before that so can’t be sure.
Or we havent heard the tape she is talking about before this one? We will have to wait to see if there is more to it I guess. jmo
cent @ 3:07 – Yes, that’s rare. That’s one reason why I don’t think it was pre-meditated. I think M may have hit her too hard or not watched her carefully enough and something happened to her.
Then she got freaked out and tried to cover it up.
tobias @ 3:18 – That’s right. Can’t be sure. It’s so annoying having bits and pieces of tapes come out.
TM39 @ 3:08 – Oh, yes. That’s very much a possibility IMO. Lots of motive, lots of capabilities to do such a thing. No question about it.
Tobias… yes we need them all… we need to be able to watch what LE has released without the media force-feeding us what they want!!
TM39 @ 2:09 – I agree and with Vaquera and Me.
If that was an accurate transcript from an NG show on Feb 23 – that’s nearly two weeks ago. I would think that would have been all over the net in no time but we’re just hearing about it now. I have never seen that tape either.
And I’d like to see it myself. I don’t trust transcripts because even when – or especially when – professional transcribers are doing it, they are often only listening to an audio tape. They aren’t looking at people’s faces to see their mouths. They OFTEN mess up. And when a show is live it’s even worse. Just watch the captioning on TV shows some time. It’s terrible.
Since I’m not the type to jump on every morsel of possibly negative info about R I’d prefer to wait until I can see the tape myself. Except I’m really ONLY interested in finding Haleigh, so I’m not sure of the relevance anyway.
Its plain and simple but made out to be so coplicated and IMO on purpose to cover the truth.
TM39 @ 3:35 – I’m sorry. I don’t understand.
(I’m a bit dense today)
Gang… I will be back… in a few minutes.
Haleigh was alive and well when she left that trailer,somebody explain this to me,I can’t listen to anything till get my sound fixed !
True BAC, We also need a time line on some of these videos coming out. I want to see the one right after her court date. The one where she
has a good idea what she is facing.jmo
M2 dense,I highly doubt that!
Amen TexMom!
No one knows if she left alive or otherwise or if she was even at the MH but LE. There are no statements made by LE that says anything to that effect and the footprint could have been there for days and it was never proven to be Haleighs. jmo
TY Tobias,I dunno how i got a loveLetter worm,its covering my sound and i have worked since yesterday and no closer to cathing that silly worm!
According to one attorney’s blog, it shows how many pills she sold will determine how many years she will get.
An online law website concerning the State of Florida’s law reads, 4-14 grams = 3 years minimum.
From the documentation I have read it appears she sold over 70 grams. (200, or more pills?) I take back what I said earlier about her doing 3 years only. She goes to jail over the pills for a long time if she knows nothing or does not talk. If she knows something and offers it up, maybe she can get a plea deal. In reality there is a sweet girl missing who is paying the ultimate price, regardless of who’s responsible.
I want to just pretend that MG has her hidden somewhere, but it just does not seem likely that they could pull it off. Haleigh would literally have to be locked up somewhere with all the publicity this case has gotten.
I thought they’d found proof she was alive,oman!!
Cathy I will try to write down what Misty says in the tape and relay it to you OK? BBL
I dunno why but i feel she is!Caylee i knew from day one wasn’t!
wow thanx Tobias!
Right Shock,thats for sure but i guess one can hope!
FYI~There is an article on CNN that a girl who was abducted from her father by her mother in 1995 has been found and mother has been arrested!
See,Some people can pull it off!
I just cant figure why js said they cant touch him in ky,and was’t he a deputy or something before!
I’ll bb in a sec,gonna go to pc geeks r us,lol
mISTY- I know I cried. I prayed and thats all I can do and you know people are saying I am not thinking about Haleigh. You can ask everyone in the cell block right here and now if I dont talk about her all the time. I CRY ALL THE TIME. i CRY ALL THE TIME ABOUT hALEIGH.
So they can all kiss my a.. I hope they put that on there. Oh they are gonna put that visitaion of me sayin all that stuff but I was upset it was the day I was saying that stuffI just wanted out of here but you know my lawyer is doing his job and he is doing the best he can for me I appretiate that.
Tried to do this the best I am not a pro at it but its pretty close. jmo
Did anyone notice during Mistys speech Lisa never got to say one word.jmo
CathyJo,
I heard ‘Can’t touch him in Kentucky’ was in reference to dog fighting, but can’t say for certain. Apparently, one of the complaints about TH is that he presents info out of context.
Don’t even know whether there is any truth to the JS dog fighting; if there is, well – he is a very dangerous person.
CathyJo63 said,in March 5th, 2010 at 4:03 pm I thought they’d found proof she was alive,oman!!
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ What ?? where??? mistake?? please explain..
m2c♥ said,in March 5th, 2010 at 3:31 pm TM39 @ 2:09 – I agree and with Vaquera and Me.
If that was an accurate transcript from an NG show on Feb 23 – that’s nearly two weeks ago. I would think that would have been all over the net in no time but we’re just hearing about it now. I have never seen that tape either.
And I’d like to see it myself. I don’t trust transcripts because even when – or especially when – professional transcribers are doing it, they are often only listening to an audio tape. They aren’t looking at people’s faces to see their mouths. They OFTEN mess up. And when a show is live it’s even worse. Just watch the captioning on TV shows some time. It’s terrible.
Since I’m not the type to jump on every morsel of possibly negative info about R I’d prefer to wait until I can see the tape myself. Except I’m really ONLY interested in finding Haleigh, so I’m not sure of the relevance anyway.
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It’s been shown over and over on the undercover tapes with R in the backseat, asking the UC these exact words.
Tanya, Most of the cases like that one are from years ago when if a parent took off with the kid they werent usually followed up on too good. The father would have to of hired his own detective to find them. Parental obductions werent top priority in those years. jmo
Tobias, yes… Ma Croslin… was trying to talk. I sometimes wonder if it’s her Ma, Misty’s downfall. She leads that girl on and on, then says something totally different to Tommy and who else knows. At least Hank “Magic Man” Sr. is pretty consistent in his despair.
will someone please tell me about this rumor about proof she is alive!!!
m2c♥ said,in March 5th, 2010 at 3:31 pm TM39 @ 2:09 – I agree and with Vaquera and Me.
If that was an accurate transcript from an NG show on Feb 23 – that’s nearly two weeks ago. I would think that would have been all over the net in no time but we’re just hearing about it now. I have never seen that tape either.
And I’d like to see it myself. I don’t trust transcripts because even when – or especially when – professional transcribers are doing it, they are often only listening to an audio tape. They aren’t looking at people’s faces to see their mouths. They OFTEN mess up. And when a show is live it’s even worse. Just watch the captioning on TV shows some time. It’s terrible.
Since I’m not the type to jump on every morsel of possibly negative info about R I’d prefer to wait until I can see the tape myself. Except I’m really ONLY interested in finding Haleigh, so I’m not sure of the relevance anyway.
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It’s on video DVD in the Palatka Daily news……I posted the link ealier today.
Jason, JS has convictions for dog fighting.
MeThinks…. I think Cathy was referring to evidence early on, about HaLeigh and LE statements. The convo earlier about HaLeigh leaving the trailer alive vs not. Nothing new that I know of!!!!!!!!
cent, thanks…I thought I missed something important!
No worries Methinks.. we all would be shouting from the rooftops if there were any rumblings.
Misty making that statement just proves she is feeling the heat and knows people arent believing her storries any more. Damage control trying to say she thinks, crys and prays for Haleigh every waking moment. Alittle late dont ya think? jmo
I know I would be cryin too if I knew i was gonna spend most of my youth locked away because I was stupid enough to sell drugs. jmo
I’m thinking Mr. Fields clued her in and did so with some harsh words. She knows we all know that LE is working the HaLeigh case through the drug escapades. I pray she coughs up all that she knows and not make up anything.
I would not mind one bit, if they all were able to walk away from the dopey junk… if it would result in HaLeigh being found. As much as I despise what they’re about.
BAC, I wouldnt care either everyone knows they will either clean up or end up right back in so at least we would have the haleigh case solved and have her back one way or the other.
BAC, I wouldnt care either everyone knows they will either clean up or end up right back in so at least we would have the haleigh case solved and have her back one way or the other. And she will have justice too. jmo
looking for Justice said,in March 5th, 2010 at 10:53 am I say this because LE has already came out and said the beds in Rons home were made.
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LE has never made a statement about whether or not the beds were made.
Donna B. is just thanking that woman for sending money for her canteen and is going to write her with some answers she has and she sounds like she is peed off at TM. She sounds like she is gonna try to blame him for all her problems, probably hopes she can get him to help her through threats would be my guess. jmo
I have a really hard time with people sending money to any of these people, why do it? jmo
curious, I think ronald told Tim Miller that the beds weren’t slept in…I don’t recall if LE has ever made that statement.
Yeah… Tobias, that benefactor is after more!! Maybe the BF believes DB to be innocent… but innocent of what?
Listening to some of Levi’s show, lots of mix-ups.
Conspiracy to commit murder??
Your little girl is missing (MC and RC), and you are out selling drugs? I just don’t get it. Was it a last resort? I can’t get a job type thing. Ugh!
Shockwave, Ron had a job working for his aunt doing landscaping. And from one tape where Misty keeps calling him baby it looks as though she is helping with the jobs. jmo
Shock… Ron was working doing Tree/Lawn service. Hobby maybe?? Who knows!!!
The unemployment benifits have been extended so he would still be able to draw that too. jmo
Yeah, best to give your money to a top organization like the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. You certainly do not send money to those who will probably by liquor and drugs.
Or Crack!!!
Right now its honey buns and phone calls
How many hours of work can you put in if you are high and out selling drugs? How many hours can you put in looking for your daughter if you are high and out selling drugs?
tobias and cent – About DB’s benefactor. It could just be a snoopy-nose who sent money and called in hopes of getting info.
Getreal and justone- Thank you. I looked for the link, justone but did not see it. Maybe it’s held up in moderation. Anyway it’s okay. I’m really not interested in the details of the drug arrests. Only in how the arrests may help get info about Haleigh. What specific drugs may or may not have been in the MH don’t matter much to that (to me) because any kind could have done her harm if she ate any – including regular over the counter cold medicine.
That’s funny tobias!! 🙂
I think I’ll withhold judgement (regardless of my personal feelings about her) of Donna Brock until we see what she may be able to bring to the table…maybe she does have something to share with the class. If she does, I would hope she already shared it with LE. I don’t care if she uses it for leverage in her drug charges or not. I just hope she’s woman enough to give up what she has to find Haleigh.
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in March 5th, 2010 at 5:17 pm Or Crack!!!
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Yep!
Has anyone been to Wesh Orlando site!!!! Did Misty really say that she still loved him?
cent- One of R’s relatives – Tina (?) Belcher, I believe, owns a lawn service kind of company. She used to own it with her husband but I believe he passed away. So that may be who R was working for. Good way to pick up some cash possibly.
I think DB got obsessed with getting info and fame for finding the truth about Haleigh and went in way over her head. She caused her own problems whether she is a goog guy or not. jmo
I’ve got a growing headache… seriously… medication. So can someone please search it and tell me if there is a vid…. I saw something that said 27 mins. Thanks!!!
Shockwave said,in March 5th, 2010 at 5:18 pm How many hours of work can you put in if you are high and out selling drugs? How many hours can you put in looking for your daughter if you are high and out selling drugs?
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Crystal hasn’t worked for years, and I haven’t seen her doing anything to find Haleigh…some drug addicts do manage to work. I’m not sure if Ron & Misty just abused drugs or whether they were addicts, but I’d think they were just abusers. Crystal on the other hand is obviously an addict…using while you are pregnant and driving intoxicated with an infant in the car are strong indicators than it’s more than just “partying”.
Sorry, Tobias, I didn’t see your 5:14. I swear sometimes when this refreshes not all the previous posts show up. Or I missed it. Anyway, you are right about R’s relative owning the company he was working for.
M2C, yes I knew she owned it.. just didn’t name her cause TN didn’t say it was her that he was working for. But, I figured he was. Thanks
I saw the vid
m2c
It was branded / Watson 540 Hydrocondone (sp?) which is a 10 mg, 500 mg. light blue oval pill. I really don’t understand how the strengths are listed, but I know a .5 mg Xanax will knock MY butt out. It was doctor prescribed. No one get any funny ideas. My point is 10 mg. is a high dosage for a little girl. The oval shaped blue pill is not very big, and could be swallowed easily. There are some oxycontins that look like PEZ candy to me.
Yet, another snippet… I am so pissed off at this!!! snippets… snippets… snippets!!!
I was just thinking about when I was a little girl about five or six. We lived in a little neighborhood called Green acres, it was in florida. There was a canal that ran behind the houses, and every year around feb/march or so, they would close the schools for about two weeks. The gators would come on shore to mate. They were very aggressive and parents were warned to monitor children closely and avoid playing outside. I wonder if this is why we haven’t located Haleighs remains. (if indeed she is deceased) If her little body was dicarded in a swamp, she may have been hauled away rather quickly by the gators. I know that sounds horrible, and I pray it isn’t true, but I just thought I would mention it since I just remembered it. I’m sure LE has consulted with the DNR to varify gator habits and the like.
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I don’t usually factor Crystal into the equation, because she was not there when Haleigh went missing. I also have not seen any video footage of her spending her time selling drugs. When I do, I will shut up about whether or not Crystal spends her time looking for Haleigh. Not trying to be rude…in case you took it that way.
BAC,did you notice the eye roll and sarcatic look she did? Then the ohhhh. body language all over the place. jmo
Tobias, Yes… I noticed it. I can’t stand how the media is dictating the info. Her 7lbs lost comment… hearing that from the reporter and not her is crazy!!!
methinks
I think it’s completely plausible for the alligators to have consumed what was left, but I don’t like to think about it either.
MeThinks… that is a fear so many are concerned about.
Shockwave said,in March 5th, 2010 at 5:34 pm Me
I don’t usually factor Crystal into the equation, because she was not there when Haleigh went missing. I also have not seen any video footage of her spending her time selling drugs. When I do, I will shut up about whether or not Crystal spends her time looking for Haleigh. Not trying to be rude…in case you took it that way.
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Your right Shockwave Crystal has not been spending her time selling drugs she is too busy taking drugs. Who knows she may sell some too if someone approached her to buy some. She just hasnt been given that opportunity yet
Shockwave, don’t you think it would be great if C did or does spend time looking for Haleigh? She is her mother even if for only two weekends a month.
And she is very lucky she was not targeted for a drug sting which LE could have done if they wanted to. Or they could have caught her with her supplier.
Also, as far as we know R was not there either when Haleigh disappeared.
So I don’t understand what you are saying.
I just think both sides of this should be recognized.
Me, I believe all three of them are addicts…an abuser might be able to put finding their child in front of buying,selling and using drugs.
Just to be clear…I have never held and oxycontin in my hands. I saw images of them online. TJ Hart and company posted the links, a while back, to the documents which describe the arrests or the undercover information, which is why I knew the brand name of the pills they were selling.
Okay Shock… clearing it up!!! I don’t blame you for it one bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
methinks said,in March 5th, 2010 at 5:04 pm curious, I think ronald told Tim Miller that the beds weren’t slept in…I don’t recall if LE has ever made that statement.
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methinks, that’s what Tim claims.
But there’s, we don’t know if it’s actually true, and if Ron ever said that. LE definitely has not made a statement on whether it’s true or not.
m2c
I am saying that R and M were out selling and taking pills, instead of trying to find Haleigh. You are selling so that takes up part of the day, and then you take some of what you have for yourself, and that haze may take up the rest of the day you had to stay clear minded and find your daughter instead. I have no idea what C was doing, because she’s managed to stay out of trouble and has not been in the news as much.
Denise said,in March 5th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Your right Shockwave Crystal has not been spending her time selling drugs she is too busy taking drugs. Who knows she may sell some too if someone approached her to buy some. She just hasnt been given that opportunity yet
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Yep, and crack and cocaine are far more expensive drugs than prescription drugs, so, where are they getting the money to pay for these drugs….they had 5 kids to support, weren’t working (or at least Crystal wasn’t, and I doubt Chad was)….so how were they earning the money to buy these very expensive drugs?
Cathy are you back?
ME, When did they ever find crack on anyone I though it was oxys and loritabs they were selling. jmo
Ron shouldn’t have been eligible for Unemployment…
1) He was seperated from his job by being FIRED
2) He had not worked there or another legitimate job for the amount of weeks it takes to draw unemployment. He’s not paid in enough.
Shockwave said,in March 5th, 2010 at 5:12 pm Your little girl is missing (MC and RC), and you are out selling drugs? I just don’t get it. Was it a last resort? I can’t get a job type thing. Ugh!
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IMO, if it’s relevant to Ron, then it’s relevant to Crystal…so….
Your little girl is missing (CS), and you are endangering your other little girl’s life by driving and crashing, whilst intoxicated by illegal drugs, with your infant in the car? Why? Then you fear your other child is in danger, but continue to use drugs yourself knowing that the end result might be foster care for that child? Things that make you go hmmm.
Crystal had the motive, she was taken right after Crystal received her warrant threatening jail, that family has major drug issues and at least one RSO in it, and they move up my suspect list by the minute.
Tobias.. crack/pipe was foind on the Griffis property during that search in a truck… I suppose Chad’s truck…. therefore Crystal is on Crack!!!
HGM, You can draw unemployment if you are fired or quit, its just a matter of justification. I got fired once without cause so thats how I know. And if you quit for a just cause you can draw it also you have to submit the reason for review. And previous jobs make up for the new unemployment action.
He also would qualify for food stamps and some welfare because of Junior.
HGM, You can draw unemployment if you are fired or quit, its just a matter of justification. I got fired once without cause so thats how I know. And if you quit for a just cause you can draw it also you have to submit the reason for review. And previous jobs make up for the new unemployment action.
He also would qualify for food stamps and some welfare because of Junior. And there have been extentions on unemployment since the economy is so bad. jmo
opps sorry.
Tobias… also her seizures, baby C’s possible addiction, and her Mother’s old weed-house makes her on the Wack-Crack!! Ohh Yeah, her love for her brother… which really isn’t her brother!!!
BAC, Was the truck locked and how does that prove Crystal was on crack if its in Chads truck? Was there any crack there also? Sounds hinky to me like maybe someone put it there?
Just saying a pipe in an unlocked truck and no crack doesnt make a strong case. jmo
Bac, I guess some are really reaching. jmo
Tobias… they will have KP’s emails/bar complaint response… known to be the gospel.
While I feel that they are all addicts of some kind… the crack is a stretch… and it’s thrown out to combat and clean up Ron’s tapped pill slippage!
This whole time I have not picked on just one person. I have no idea who took or hurt Haleigh. I have only offered my opinions. So pardon me if I don’t jump on the “It’s Crystal, and she sucks!” band wagon. I don’t think it is okay for Crystal to do drugs, and I hope she is getting the help she needs in rehab. Everyone can change. That includes RC, MC, etc.
Well I am sure at the next drug test things will be improved , at least I am hopeful for juniors sake even though some would like her to fail. Someone out of this bunch needs to clean up for his sake. jmo
tobias said,in March 5th, 2010 at 1:00 pm Mistys lawyer has told her she isnt helping her case by the way she acted before. She is trying to do damage control but not very well.
To me she still comes off as someone who only cares about Haleigh when the finger is pointed at her, I cant wait to see the whole tape and the visit before this one. jmo
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I agree. I even wondered if her lawyer made any kind of threats to get her to change her tune.
Probably threatened to quit her again and then she would have to rely on a public defender, oh no. jmo
tobias….they found crack at the Griffis property….if you look at the bar complaint docs you can read all about it and if you google the search of the griffis property, you’ll find the news articles from when they found it.
Shock… you don’t have to defend your thoughts… I pick on them all!! You are correct…. no one knows!!!
I wonder about that supposed tape Ron made for LE saying he really loved Misty and how she really cryed when she heard it. I would have thought it better for him to say he despised her hated what she got him ito and because of it he lost Junior would have been more to the point. jmo
tobias said,in March 5th, 2010 at 6:05 pm BAC, Was the truck locked and how does that prove Crystal was on crack if its in Chads truck? Was there any crack there also? Sounds hinky to me like maybe someone put it there?
Just saying a pipe in an unlocked truck and no crack doesnt make a strong case. jmo
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I’m surprised you haven’t read the bar complaint…it will tell you all about who owned it.
I urge everyone following this case that hasn’t read the bar complaint to do so….it revealed a lot about this case….and it will save the rest of us the time of having to keep telling everyone what is in it!
Someone needs to ask if it is true why under the law KP didnt call LE into it then? jmo
LOL! So true BA….
Tobias, I do know that sometimes people get to claim unemployment after being fired….Ron would not be one of them, LOL! It was too public to be payable. I’m sure that PDM covered their butts on it….they sure have about the time clock incident & their current employees gag order, haven’t they? LOL!
Then stop telling everyone what is in it… then!!! Kp is only spewing truth when it’s against Crystal… it’s all lies when she spewed it against Ron!!!
Enough of this shit!!!
Wasnt he on the federal leave act for 6 wks before he was fired? jmo
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in March 5th, 2010 at 6:24 pm Then stop telling everyone what is in it… then!!! Kp is only spewing truth when it’s against Crystal… it’s all lies when she spewed it against Ron!!!
Enough of this shit!!!
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Someone needs to relax and be polite.
I love the way a mandated court reporter only reports to the court when her own @ss is in a sling….par for the course….
KP is a liar, cheat, and completely untrustworthy….unless she’s tearing down Crystal…Then it’s GOSPEL…
KP will still get hers as well….
KP was just covering her own ass after she got in too deep. Thats what I got from her whole mess in this and have removed anything she said good or bad about anyone. jmo
tobias said,in March 5th, 2010 at 6:22 pm Someone needs to ask if it is true why under the law KP didnt call LE into it then? jmo
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tobias,
lawyers have a duty of confidentiality towards their clients, which means they can’t pick up the phone and ring police about things their clients confess to.
But, if you bother to read the bar complaint, you’ll see the emails exchanged between KP, Marie & Crystal, and the advice she gave them about what to say (or more importantly perhaps, not to say) about the crack. We know Crystal has already been convicted of lying to LE once, this shows she did it a second time, goodness knows what else she is lying about. She does seem to be a compulsive liar…all the playground garbage, the made up story about Haleigh drowning etc.
Then I guess you should be, Me!
No Tobias, I don’t believe he had been working there long enough for it to come into play…but I could be wrong. Even if he was, he would still have to keep in contact with PDM as to when he would be returning. He broke his contractual obligations per FLA (Family Leave Act) by not doing so….that disqualifies him for benefits from unemloyment
HollyG, did you view the snippets of Misty at Wesh?
Hollys Gmom said,in March 5th, 2010 at 6:27 pm I love the way a mandated court reporter only reports to the court when her own @ss is in a sling….par for the course….
KP is a liar, cheat, and completely untrustworthy….unless she’s tearing down Crystal…Then it’s GOSPEL…
KP will still get hers as well….
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It’s really odd…just a few weeks ago there was someone posting here with the same name as you that swore the Sheffields had Haleigh, were taking her to parties, and that she actually saw Haleigh. She told us that police had told her to be careful, and that she was being watched. She freaked out one night thinking LE or the Sheffields/Griffis had gotten into her computer, and asked us to pray for her, as though she thought her life was in danger! LOL. Was that you?
Was it just a rumor then? HMMM I always thought he was getting it. I have heard of the PDM policy on not talking about the case and some other prety odd stuff about PDM guards taking money to not tell on people leaving without clocking out. I wonder if LE has done interviews with the guards there? jmo
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in March 5th, 2010 at 6:29 pm Then I guess you should be, Me!
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I’m not the one freaking out on other posters and using foul language. You really should control yourself….I don’t think we’re allowed to use the language you used here and I’m glad for that.
me said,in March 5th, 2010 at 6:29 pm tobias said,in March 5th, 2010 at 6:22 pm Someone needs to ask if it is true why under the law KP didnt call LE into it then? jmo
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tobias,
lawyers have a duty of confidentiality towards their clients, which means they can’t pick up the phone and ring police about things their clients confess to.
But, if you bother to read the bar complaint, you’ll see the emails exchanged between KP, Marie & Crystal, and the advice she gave them about what to say (or more importantly perhaps, not to say) about the crack. We know Crystal has already been convicted of lying to LE once, this shows she did it a second time, goodness knows what else she is lying about. She does seem to be a compulsive liar…all the playground garbage, the made up story about Haleigh drowning etc.
Here’s the problem. KP is LEGALLY unable to put a client on the stand to knowingly tell a lie. Same goes for a police report. If she advised her client to lie, she has broken the law and should be disbared. It is not over yet. Several people are looking into this issue and not everyone is willing to let it go.
Me, I don’t need you telling me how to conduct myself… would you rather read S*it instead? You and your never ending crusade to try your best to humiliate HollyG is just plain MEAN!!! That is what shouldn’t be allowed here… but somehow you keep getting by with it!
HGM, i HOPE YOU KNOW i AM JUST ASKING QUESTIONS AND IN NO WAY AM i questioning your info. Darned keyboard bBL.
bac AND hgm, YOU both are people on here that I TRUST TO HAVE CORRECT INFO. kEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. JMO
Thanks Tobias… I appreciate that.
So you want people to believe that Crystal & family abducted Haleigh, that LE are in on it, but they shouldn’t believe other witnesses who have been “harrassed” due to their association on this case…..
Make up your mind already…..which way is it? Are they cpapble of this and have LE in thier @ss pockets or not???
Tobias…. did you read the excerpt at Wesh… about the vigil, and Ron’s letter, Misty’s questions… waiting for more on that one.
Thanks Tobias….I do appreciate it
Also to you as well Cent.
I don’t see how she is able to continue this personal tirade but sheis……see la vie
Im pretty sure the police know misty is innocent. A 17 yr old would not be able to handle tv interviews or be around rons family 24/7. Guilty people cant face the victims family.
The police are giving misty credit for the murder to provoke the pedophile to contact them and taunt them.
So what I want to know is why no one is talking about the PD….What is up with that? Shouldn’t that be big news?
So HollyG, have you located a site that has the complete vid/aud/transcripts of the tapes? I am sick and tired of the snippets… I would think that since they are on-line, then it would be easier to show them in entirety!!
me,
Please get your facts straight.
Crystal has never been convicted of anything. She has never even been arrested. She was charged with giving false info to police, but the case was dropped. Check it out yourself.
The second thing is that the KP’s email about the crack pipes in the Bar Complaint does not ever say that Marie or Crystal lied to anyone. She is instructing Marie to tell “Diane” to not discuss it.
Your sloppy use of inaccurate information is becoming tiresome. Please check out the information that you repeat on here post on here.
Yea, me too….She still loves Ronald (hence no deal)…darn! I’m going to check the docket records for any changes since last week.
Public Defender… HollyG, I think is not an issue anymore… according to Misty’s statement about Fields doing his job. However, the tape dates, what ever they are may hold a clue to PD. But I think Fields is staying.
Hey guys,gotta catch up!
Hollys Gmom said,in March 5th, 2010 at 6:51 pm So you want people to believe that Crystal & family abducted Haleigh, that LE are in on it, but they shouldn’t believe other witnesses who have been “harrassed” due to their association on this case…..
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Are you asking if I believe what you said about seeing Haleigh a few months after she disappeared, and that she was on her way to a Sheffield party?—-I’d have to say I don’t think I can believe you on that. I found your explanation for not taking down the licence plate number odd, but possible. Was it true? Did LE really tell you to be careful because you were being watched? Who was watching you?
Hollys Gmom said,in March 5th, 2010 at 6:55 pm So what I want to know is why no one is talking about the PD….What is up with that? Shouldn’t that be big news?
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What PD are you talking about?
If you are talking about Misty, Fields was appointed her PD….now he’ll get paid by the state instead of acting pro bono, that’s all that changed. Is there something to discuss about that? To me, it’s no biggie and I’m not surprised he’d want to get paid!
You could be right Jason,Cause tho i posted it the 1t time i saw it i thought,why would he say that out loud,lol
Tho Jason,I’d never heard the dog thing!
he should be in jail tho for that alone,lol
skeptic…the court records show she was convicted. I’ll accept the court records over what you say, sorry. They are public and you can check them for yourself.
Re the complaint, you are wrong….there is an email attached to the complaint that everyone can read for themselves.
Nice try. You might want to check the public records available before accusing someone of making things up next time.
I see quite a “storm brewing”. Clouds coming, winds blowing, thunder & lightning. Then a rainbow.
There is NO way Fields is representing Misty through PD office….Mr Purdy himself will be representing her. It will be his “case of a lifetime”. No way that’s going to get passed off to an underling…..
Yea and maybe the storm will end with yet another person who don’t know who theyre fighting with,I thought i’d lay an egg after it happened to Jason,got it feels good not to be the only one!!!LoL
BA – I hope the person who seems to hate C so much knows her.
The tapes come out and i can’t listen,grrrrrr
Shock… you would think…???
I’m going to say something negative R’s way, and now all the people who love R are going to get upset, but oh well. R possibly can’t hate M for all the stuff she has gotten him into, because he’s just as much to blame for the stuff as she is. It’s just as much his fault that he lost custody of Jr.
Hi Cathy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tobias put up some of the words of the tapes… for you!!
Hollys…the court records show Fields has been appointed her PD. Are you saying they are wrong?
The PDs office can only represent one of the 5 co-accused….it’s a conflict of interest to represent more than one. It’s standard procedure to give the other cases out to private lawyers, paid for by the state. Donna B. got her private attorney/appointed PD shortly after her arrest. I am guessing Tommy or Hope are being repped by an in house PD.
I wish you people would stop saying I am lying about things that are in public records, if you bothered to read them. Check before you say someone is lying.
ahhhhhh,cool….Thanx Adams,still trying to catch up!
tobias said,in March 5th, 2010 at 1:52 pm Texasmommy, My theory has always been that Tommy had the oppotunity to unlock the back door since he was there earlier in the day. Ron said it was locked and it was until Tommy and the AC guy came over. Tommy had plans to get the gun again and possibly Rons drugs.
So he knows Misty may be going to babysit at Timmys that night also but Ron told Misty no at 8:30 and she turned her phone off. When Ron calls Tommy at 9:30 asking if Misty is there he assumes Misty went to Timmys. He enters the MH and turns on the light because no one is supposed to be there. Haleigh sees the light and thinks its her dad home from work. She goes to the kitchen and surprises Tommy he panics and well. Misty wakes up and sees Tommy and Haleigh is dead and they panic. They come up with the story they used earlier to blame Joe for stealing Rons gun. They stage the MH and Tommy gets rid of evidence. She calls him before Ron comes home to make sure everything worked out and then calls Ron but cant reach him. Ron pulls in and they call 911. jmo
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Good Theory!
FL PD facts:
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President-Elect – Hon. Nancy A Daniels , 2nd Circuit
Vice President – Hon. Jim Purdy, 7th Circuit
Treasurer – Hon. Carey Haughwout, 15th Circuit
Secretary – Hon. Julianne Holt, 13th Circuit
Notice how Putnam’s PD is the Vice-President of the FL PD Assoc….
CathyJo63 – I’m going to guess it is time for you to upgrade your computer. It seems to give you a lot of issues. Am I right?
Shockwave said,in March 5th, 2010 at 7:28 pm BA – I hope the person who seems to hate C so much knows her.
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I don’t hate anyone. It’s a fact she’s a drug user, and has/had children on a property where crack was kept, was a deadbeat mom etc. None of that has anything to do with how I feel about her….they are simply the facts and too many here are more interested in making her look good and pretend those facts exist, than they are at trying to find Haleigh. The only agenda here should be finding Haleigh, not making up lies about how good a mom Crystal is. Goodness.
methinks said,in March 5th, 2010 at 4:26 pm CathyJo63 said,in March 5th, 2010 at 4:03 pm I thought they’d found proof she was alive,oman!!
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ What ?? where??? mistake?? please explain..
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Proof she was alive when she left the mh!
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Thank You Tobias,very much for the snipplets!!!!!!
Feeling Better Agams?
Shockwave…I doubt any of the people that “love” Ron are actually posting with us at the moment. Though I suspect some of those that “love” Crystal are. Marie just loves spreading malicious lies on the blogs and has already been busted for it, big time….and had many lackies helping her out. Most have since apologized, others continue.
That is a good theory CathyJo – but surely LE tested for gun powder when they investigated. I had a theory early on that there was a drug deal gone bad, and little Haleigh got shot outside of the MH, but someone quickly debunked my theory with the gun powder residue issue. I think gun powder would be more difficult to find if it was outside.
Cathy, this is from Wesh….. not sure if you saw this!!
During the conversation, Croslin insisted she had nothing to do with the disappearance of her former stepdaughter.
On the tapes, Croslin asked her mother if she had read the latest headlines about the case in the newspaper.
* Croslin: You read the paper today?
* Mother: No. I just got up and come out here.
* Croslin: The people that are involved, that the cops think that’s involved, is locked up.
Croslin also referred to a vigil held for Haleigh on the one-year anniversary of her disappearance. Both she and Ronald Cummings were in jail at the time. However, Croslin’s mother attended the vigil.
* Croslin: Theresa read a letter that Ronald wrote?
* Mother: Yes. She read it.
* Croslin: Was it good?
* Mother: Yes. It was good. It said make sure Haleigh knows she’ll always be his baby girl. It was really good.
“I prayed and that’s all I can do,” Misty said to her mother. “You can ask everybody in this cell block right here, everybody knows I think about her all the time.”
Shock,I have done everything,my volume controller is missing,my pc has always did fine,lately though,fix awhile,blog a few,fix awhile,blog a few more…..LoL
It says i have a LoveLetter worm of all thing’s,but hey its the closest I’ll ever get to getting a LoveLetter! LoL
Shockwave said,in March 5th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
I’ve heard it all but thats one theory I had never heard before!
Please point to the public record the SPECIFIES that Fields will be employed/paid through PD’s office……..
I was not the person claiming Haleigh was being brought home in time for a family party, dork….mlee…can you field this one? Too much of a hot potato??? Funny how those who have given me so much information stand idly by while this continues….no worries IT WILL ALL COME OUT IN THE WASH!
Me – I have never said that Crystal was a great mom. How could I? That comment was heavily inflated. Let’s just agree to disagree and move on. I mean at some point I am just going to start ignoring any rude comments towards me anyway. So, why bother?
You are full of it, me….PD’s here rep co-conspiritors all of the time…LOL!!!!
Omy Lord Wth? Thats odd don’t ya think,and isn’t she one of the ones whose locked up? Cornfused!
siouxindian said,in March 5th, 2010 at 7:22 pm I see quite a “storm brewing”. Clouds coming, winds blowing, thunder & lightning. Then a rainbow.
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I SO hope you’re right, sioux!
A rainbow would be wonderful…
TN Gang?
I know what ya meant Hollys…….shouldve ask with some sense about me but why are you gonna bring em down,what am i missin??
beautiful*adams, CathyJo, Tobias, shockwave, Hollysgmom, I don’t say much, but I read here every single day and night and have since the beginning….and I always LOVE your posts!
Thanks for all your great insight!
Thank you very much… KeepItReal, I think we all appreciate your kind words.
Thank You KeepitReal! Tho i can’t offer insight…LoL but i didn’t know I gave insight..LoL But I’m glad they make me look like do,LoL
I screwed that up royally,sorry scratch the first I cant offer!LoL
Hollys…..when did you move to Fla?
Are you even following this case…you know Brock has a private lawyer who was appointed her pd, don’t you? You might want to look up conflict of interest principles for lawyers.
You’re all very welcome. As I said one other time on here, I think our opinions are based on good old common sense alot of the time! Facts and common sense, that is! Please keep up the good work for those of us who stay in the shadows most of the time!
I’m getting ready to go to da dollarstore and get me some “duck tape” and tape these caps down,sometimes I sit here and type a full box,look up and OMG!!!!!!!!!
CathyJo63 said,in March 5th, 2010 at 7:57 pm TN Gang?
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Yep…people are talking crazy stuff.
KeepItReal… sometimes lurking is best… I do it often… HeeeHeee!!
Thats true KeepItReal,i guess you put yourself in their place,and thats why i don’t blame TN because i know if i had went to jail for dealing drugs then i know without a doubt my Amom would have still loved me and no doubt defended me,but i could see it if TN was like cindy……Knowing your child killed their child and helping hide it..Theres no way TN thinks Ron did anything,and I don’t either…I think Misty is lying sure!
I never once accused you of nothing,what are you talking about?
Denise…if you think that’s all over the place…you should read her posts from a few weeks ago. She claimed she saw Haleigh and that Haleigh was being hidden by the Sheffields, but taken out for birthday parties, even though it wasn’t on birthdays…then she said how police warned her that she was being watched. Then talked about things changing before her eyes on her computer, then asked us to pray for her. Hmmmmm. When I asked why she didn’t take down the license plate#, she gave some excuse….seemed odd to me. Guess she’s not sticking with that story anymore!
CathyJo Im not sure your post was for me but I was not talking about you.
Ohhh Denise,sorry,i thought you meant i had said that to you,like Jason did to me,ROFL!
Oh…so you can throw accusations at anybody but no one is allowed to throw one back? LOL!
FYI….I have lived in FL for over 20 years….shocked? LOL! Yes, they very often represent co-conspiritors here, no conflict of interest since they were “working together” during the crime. I just saw 30 people led out of a courtroom to meet the PD for our county this past Tuesday. Some of them were arrested together for crimes they commited together and they still have the same PD, LOL!
keepitreal: A rainbow is beautiful! I feel Haleigh will be found soon. She is a beautiful little girl. I was once a little girl, myself. I have faith. All of us, needs faith right now. Believe! I do not know this family. But I have faith and hope. Haleigh will be found and I pray all this, comes to an end soon. Everyone needs have hope & faith…. What I am saying with the “storm brewing” is the whole family. Spiders’ weave a “web”. There is a “web of lies'” that I see with this whole “family”.
It worried me there Denise,but its still funny,lol
HollyG… just do your best to ignore it!
Hollys GMom….where were you living when you saw Haleigh? You didn’t claim to see her in Fla. So, when you said a couple of weeks ago that you drove to a house to check the car you saw Haleigh in, was that in Fla? Was it the FLa police that told you to be careful that you were being watched, after you reported your siting?
No Cathy just alot of weird posts and cant figure out the agenda. I wish I knew who I was talking too it seems like some people may be closer to the people involved than just concerned citizens.
SiouxIndian… shadows… of shadows… of shadows!!
CathyJo…I’m not talking about you…your not the accusor….
me….play all the games you want…LOL!!! You think you are so smart but guess what….it’s not gonna pull Ron out of the trouble he is in nor the trouble comming down the road…
Hollys….
That night you were talking about people coming after you, because you knew the Sheffields had Haleigh, you had me, CathyJo and a few others quite worried. Particularly when you reported your computer changing and asked us to pray for you? Were you making that up, drunk, on drugs? I don’t understand. Do you now think Haleigh was with TN’s gang when you saw her?
I know,sorry Denise,but last night someone had called Jason a liar and then he goes,Cathy JO,How can you all me a Liar after…………LoL You get my point,he thought omg……ya know he did but b/c it happened to me before i thought i’d die laughing!
It is hard sometimes when you jumble all these posts together,LOL
Denise said,in March 5th, 2010 at 8:25 pm No Cathy just alot of weird posts and cant figure out the agenda. I wish I knew who I was talking too it seems like some people may be closer to the people involved than just concerned citizens.
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Yep, and it wouldn’t be the first time.
It worries me thinking someones thinking i’d be mean to them Denise? LoL
Hollys Gmom said,in March 5th, 2010 at 8:25 pm it’s not gonna pull Ron out of the trouble he is in nor the trouble comming down the road…
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LOL. I never said it was. Now, can you please explain your sighting and why it was you were trying to convince us the Sheffields were after you a few weeks ago and asking us to pray for you?
HollyG…. just let it go!!!
Hollys GMom,
I have never once said any of the LE were corrupt. I think they are in over their heads, but doubt they are corrupt.
Dont worry CathyJo I agree it can get confusing lol no worries!
I wish i could hear the tapes,
me said,in March 5th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
LOL! You’re not even close…LOL! I was at work that night which can be verified by Jan and records….so drunk, on drugs, LOL! NO!
I’ll tell you what, I’ll give you some info on some of the other people who “saw” Haleigh and you can ridicule them for their sightings as well…ohhh that’s right you can’t do that since they are on your “team”.
So now you reveal yourself…LOL! I know who was there that night …..
Please, try your best to connect me and MG cause you can’t…there isn’t any other than I refuse to agree that Crystal is the devil….try…keep trying….
BRB,Gonna go update see if it helps!!
That I know for sure Denise,bbs
If we dont agree with LE that is totally our perogative. I think they need to be more open with this case they cant know that much or they would have a person of interest and they havent named anyone a person of interest and they are not trying to reach out to the community. They are just quiet and expect everyone to be ok with that. I am not ok with that. It has been a yr. This reminds me of the Natalie Hollaway case. Things get twisted in the beginning and then we hear nothing and the police get no where. We are not Aruba. We should expect our LE the people we pay to do their job and if they are getting nowhere give it to someone that may be able to.
There should be no teams. There is evidence and rumor lets just keep them seperate
Me…you might not have to worry about the “gang” issue but others sure do….
Yes, TN has “formed” her own gang to combat the negative stuff about Ron….keep watching…it’s all gonna go out.
Hollys….so you have been in contact with both families, and contacted the police more than once. That is very sad….i believe bloggers should not be trying to insert themselves into these cases. And then start saying things like “pray for me” insinuating you were under threat from the Sheffields. Then talk about the grandmother in the other family having a gang that you are going to bring down. My goodness.
CathyJo…I wish you could hear them too…but if it makes you feel any better, they are both very short. The one with DB basically has her saying, over and over, “I’m one of the good guys…TM is a piece of poop”….she seems to be talking to someone who has written her and put money in her account, but does not seem to actually know the person. The tape with Misty doesn’t have much beyond what you’ve heard. Hopefully you’ll have speakers again soon! Have you tried re-booting, running Norton etc?
Pink Panther….Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun da da da da… Are you lurking?
I’ve never said Crystal is the devil….I think she’s had an awful upbringing, and I’m not surprised she’s turned out the way she has given that upbringing. So has Misty. Doesn’t mean I think they are both telling the truth.
And I wasn’t the one asking people to pray for me cause the Sheffields were coming after me…that was you…it was you who seemed to think they were the devil. I was quite skeptical of what you were saying then and it’s more than a bit tough to reconcile with what you are saying today. Frankly, the idea that you saw Haleigh on her way to a Sheffield birthday party sounded a bit crazy to me. But you were adamant and sounded scared.
beautiful*adams(cent): shadows…of shadows…of shadows!! You are right! We all have shadows, throughout our life… Everyone has at one time or another. I’m looking at this from another state. But, I still see a “rainbow”, for little Haleigh. I do not know any of the family members, or you. Have not been to Florida. I cherish my family as they cherish me, their mother. Will always keep my children, even tho their grown from “harm”.LOL
SO a person who thought they might have more “evidence” shouldn’t report it to police? OK…next time I won’t bother. I’m sure that’ll make the families very happy.
I was contacted BY the TN group because of my sighting…I did not seek them out….months after I had recieved the invite I agree to talk with them about what I had seen that day. They also gave me tons of information they thought I should have. I didn’t solicit it, it was just given to me.
I have never been in contact with any member of the Sheffield family, I only spoke with KP through report made on Haleighbug website……
So keep trying….you don’t know the HALF of it! LOL!!!! Just keep it up….It is feeding my desire to be VINDICATED from your accusations and attacks.
OK ladies, I am not sure what is going on in here but before it goes any farther I think I should say something in here. Whatever the problem is between some of you I think it is time to drop it. I realize you all have your thoughts as, just as I do but just because someone else doesn’t agree is no reason to fight about it.
Instead of arguing over it why not find a way to put the thoughts together and see if you can find a way to help find Haleigh.
I am going to start deleting comments that appears to be forming into an argument and if others join in with it, their comments will be deleted also.
I am here off and on but can’t be here round the clock to watch. If it is a comment lost in hundreds of earlier ones I might miss it but it doesn’t make it OK to be on here and eventually it will be found.
Please don’t make my job any harder than it already is. It isn’t easy to keep up with everyone on here and still do my other duties as an editor with Simon for BNN and still do my work here at home LOL but I do try.
I know we all want the same thing, and that is for Haleigh to be found. I want the bashing to stop if someone might think it is Rob or if someone else thinks it is Crystal or if someone else thinks it is just Misty. PLEASE stop it.
If you all have heard our radio shows you know my personal thoughts about this case but even though I believe I am right, I am also willing to say that it is possible I am wrong but it doesn’t give anyone the right to come after me because they are against what I feel. I definitely don’t bash anyone of you if you do not think like I do, hell Simon doesn’t even think as I do but we never argue over it, we just discuss it. If he and I can do it then you all can too. PLEASE!!!!!
It is time for me to call it a night so PLEASE everyone keep BNN a pleasant place for everyone to discuss this case like adults do. PLEASE!
God bless you all and pray for Haleigh and all the other lost children in this world.
Jan Barrett
(please forgive my typos, if there are any, I am really tired tonight LOL)
Sioux, I agree. When I think of my son, I think of him as someone that I was/am fortunate enough to be blessed with, to protect and guide. There is never a day that goes by, when I’m NOT thumped with the realization of how much of a fight my baby fought at birth to live.
Jan, I thank you……
No matter who I think is at fault or who is in the wrong, I should not be harrassed because I had reported a sighting of Haleigh back in April, before I knew so much about Ron & Co.
Thank you Jan. I once again appreciate your fairness and diplomacy. And thanks for the hard work….dont’ mean to make it harder for you, sorry.
Me, will you lead me to your source of info regarding JS dogfighting conviction?
CathyJo, if it is true, then JS character is far worse than I ever imagined. Hoping it isn’t true, but afraid because where there is smoke . . .
beautiful*adams(cent): You are “Blessed” with your son! He is a part of you… He is strong, because of you. I believe you have showed him a good side of you. Be very thankful for that. You sound like a very good person, which I wish we all could be… Thanks for agreeing. There is alot of disfunction in society, today.
Jason…give me a few minutes and I’ll try to find it for you.
Thank you Jan! I’m always amazed at how so many folks turn the topic into either being about themselves, or about bashing the family members. Thank you for all that you do!
JS possibly involved in dog fighting concerns me. Anyone have info, facts to back it up?
How about the court docs? What county/state?
Thanks, Me. I may be gone before you get back, but I’ll check in later this evening for sure.
Jason,
Go to this link
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php
In the name field, put in sheffield%….when you get the results, on the left had side, scroll down to “Johnny Marcus Sheffield”….he’s been charged with a bunch of criminal stuff at that court, and the dog fighting charges are from the 2004-08-03 docket.
Thank you Sioux, I try my best to do what I can, especially for my little man. Life, I think can be a trial at times, but sometimes “we” add to the dysfunction. I am not perfect and have made my own mistakes, maybe “tiny” ones, but to me they seem huge, if they affected my son.
Anyways… very glad you’re here Sioux, you seem to have a caring soul!!!
lurk mode: off
i think everyone following this case/blog has hit a frustration level that makes the most respectable, longtime, knowledgeable bloggers, new bloggers and even us lurkers turn on each other…we all want the return and justice for haleigh. period.
and as far as the js dog fighting stuff, if its true, blame the owner not the breed.
i think (i.e. IMO) that BOTH sides of haleighs family are guilty of criminal acts. if these are related to haleighs disappearnce i can only hope LE will reveal it. if not, its our job as citizens to call them out.
thanks jan for not shutting this blog down.
Do we know when Johnny and Marie separated? I guess it’s in the court records, but I don’t feel like going through them all!
cock fighting definitely he was busted for
oh yeah…
lurk mode: on
Jan, I would not blame you IF You did shut this blog down a few days.jmo
Hi AnneIn…. how are you? You’ve been missed.
UCN: 542004CF001425XXAXMX
File Date: 2004-08-03 Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Defense Atty: STEPHENSON, JOHN W
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2004-08-03 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO
2004-08-03 1 KNOWINGLY OWN, MANAGE OPERATE FACILITY TO FIGHT ANIMALS
2004-08-03 1 CRUELTY TO ANIMALS
2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS
2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS
2004-08-31 2 INFORMATION (CT 1-ANIMAL FIGHTING)
2004-09-14 3 CAPIAS ISSUED – BOND SET AT $1004.00
2004-10-14 4 ARREST REPORT – CT 1-ANIMAL FIGHTING –
2004-10-14 4 BOND SET AT $1004.00
2004-10-14 5 $1004.00 A-1 BAIL BONDS II – #2004-AA-77111
2004-10-14 6 DEFENDANT’S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS
2004-10-14 7 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (11-10-2004)
2004-10-18 8 CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED
2004-11-10 9 ARR MIN: DEFT PRES, ADJ INS P D APPT (BILL BOOKHAMMER)
2004-11-10 9 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY – PRE TRIAL SET 12/14/2004
2004-11-10 10 AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENT STATUS
2004-11-10 11 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2004-11-10 12 ORDER FOR PRE TRIAL CONFERENCE
2004-11-16 13 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (12-14-2004)
2004-12-14 14 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JOHN STEPHENSON
2004-12-14 14 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
2004-12-14 14 CONTINUED TO 01/18/2005 AT 1:30 PM
2004-12-17 15 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (01-18-2005)
2005-01-18 16 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JOHN STEPHENSON
2005-01-18 16 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
2005-01-18 16 SET FOR PLEA DAY 01/20/2005
2005-01-20 17 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JOHN STEPHENSON
2005-01-20 17 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO TO THE LESSER CRUELTY TO
2005-01-20 17 ANIMALS
2005-01-20 17 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 1 YR PCJ &/OR $1000 FINE
2005-01-20 17 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING – DEFENDANT
2005-01-20 17 ADJUDGED GUILTY, ORDERED TO PAY $241.50 COURT COST, $250
2005-01-20 17 COST OF PROSECUTION AND $40 PUBLIC DEFENDER APP FEE,
2005-01-20 17 COSTS ENTERED AS A CIVIL LIEN, SENTENCED TO 1 DAY PCJ
2005-01-20 17 WITH 1 DAY CREDIT
2005-02-03 18 JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE – ENT MIN CIR CT BK PG
2005-02-04 19 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE AS TO JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE
2005-02-22 20 CHARGES, COSTS, AND FEES ASSOCIATED WITH SENTENCE
2005-02-22 20 RECORDED OR BK 1017 PG 753
2005-09-23 21 NOTICE OF HEARING RETURNED UNEXECUTED
2005-09-23 21 DEFT NOT IN JAIL
2005-09-23 22 DEFENSE WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
2005-09-23 22 EVIDENCE CUSTODIAN
2005-09-26 23 DEFENSE WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED:
2005-09-26 23 EVIDENCE CUSTODIAN
2005-09-29 24 MOTION FOR RETURN OF PROPERTY
2005-09-30 25 MOTION HEARING MINUTES: DEFT PRES – COURT HEARD
2005-09-30 25 DEFENSE MOTION FOR RETURN OF PROPERTY – GRANTED –
2005-09-30 25 SONY CAMCORDER SERIAL #1528521 RET’D TO DEFT
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in March 5th, 2010 at 9:38 pm Hi AnneIn…. how are you? You’ve been missed.
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I am good, TY for asking. I have just been reading.
Thank you keepitreal, I disappeared for a little while.
Shockwave said,in March 5th, 2010 at 9:45 pm Thank you keepitreal, I disappeared for a little while.
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I understand totally. I’ve been doing a LOT of disappearing lately, lol!
I just hope and pray every day for this to be over and HaLeigh to be brought home, one way or the other. It’s past time and time for that “rainbow” that sioux speaks about, to appear.
It’s time for this to end. This little girl has become “our” heart also!
OMG… On another post site I said with this whole family, it’s a wonder I hadn’t heard of any pets? Now there are pet’s coming out with fighting? I’m so sorry. I did not know this info, before…
So was it dogs or cocks?
Well, If JS’s previous arrest record makes Crystal guilty, let’s see what Ron’s dad has done….probably just as bad, so where does that leave us? Nowhere, as usual.
Animal fighting is profitable!! Sad but true!!!
cocks, not dogs iirc, they seized some roosters etc
i might have misunderstood animal fighting and said dogs…
even if it was cock fighting, its still animal cruelty and is a sign of a f-ing sick mind. sorry if i misunderstood and confused others thinking it was dogs…
either way, a true sign of a person with aggressive, violent tendencies (scientifically documented).
curious…
According to Johnny it was dogs. He apparently denied the dog fighting, and said he was charged with stealing dogs. The court record makes it clear he was charged with fighting them, having premises for the purpose etc. Where did you get the cock stuff from? LOL. I’ve seen this discussed so many places for over a year, and this is the first time the word cocks came up!
Jack Lester Cummings
Robert(Bobby) E Cummings
Freddie Wayne Cummings
These are all brothers.
Ron is Jack’s
Bobby E. Jr is Robert’s(Bobby)
David,John (Travis),and Richard (Rick)Cummings are Freddie’s.
RC,Bobby Jr,Travis,David and Rick are cousins.
They can all be found on booking details in PC.None of thier records on either side show what happened that night.But,they all were bad examples to thier children and grandchildren.
Marty has other arrest records, most of the family and extended family do. some others for Marty
1995-08-23 1 COMPLAINT – AGGRAVATED ASSAULT W/DEADLY WEAPON
2005-05-09 1 BATTERY
2005-05-09 1 ASSAULT
2006-06-05 1 AGGRAVATED BATTERY
2006-06-05 1 AGGRAVATED BATTERY
and so on
Will look for the link tomorrow, but roosters seized means cock fighting. I don’t know much about roosters or chickens, but iirc they were called bantams.
Doesn’t matter if dogs or roosters, it’s sick imo
He’s a scary dude, as is Johnny Jack imo.
im the proud owner of 3 am staffs, drug rescues, and i personally think that anyone that would fight animals…dogs cocks, ANY animal is a sick twisted f**k. sorry, off topic.
WinterRose,
I’ll bet they’ve got nothing on Chad’s relative Hilda, who is an RSO for child molestation (child under 12).
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=3289
There are so many Griffis RSOs registered in that area, it is frightening. Seven Griffis RSOs registered close to Crystal’s home, and I know at least Hilda is related, and suspect others might be too.
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/offenderSearchNav.do
Curious, that’s curious! After his records were uncovered, Art Harris, on his website claims he asked Johnny about the charges, and Johnny said it was dogs, but stealing dog charges, not dog fighting charges. Hmmm.
Well me, I wouldn’t believe a word he says, that’s just me though.
plfstzu….I agree….I have rescued cats….anyone who could harm innocent creatures like that is very sick, and as we know, it’s been proven they are generally also capable of extreme cruelty towards humans.
I wish we knew if Johnny heard about Crystal receiving the warrant. If not, I’d be stretching to figure out a motive for him. I think he was a deputy Sherrif for PCSO….might explain the direction this case has gone in.
BTW, How the heck does a guy with Johnny’s criminal history hold a deputy sheriff position?
curious said,in March 5th, 2010 at 10:19 pm Well me, I wouldn’t believe a word he says, that’s just me though.
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Who is he? Art or Johnny? I’d find it hard to believe much of what either of them say frankly.
I meant Marty/Johnny, sorry.
misty’s young nubile body shouldn’t be rotting behing bars..I would bail her out if I had an extra 1.3 mil… innocent til proven I always say.
OJ’s glove said, in March 5th, 2010 at 11:08 pm. misty’s young “nubile” body shoudln’t be rotting behind bars. “We,” are here for “Haleigh.”! NOT! Misty!!! We know where “Misty” is. We want “Haleigh” home.
Hey guys!
Well put Sioux!
Thats very true Me,would explain alot huh?
Plz,I do too,Its a disgrace for grown ppl to make animals fight!
curious said,in March 5th, 2010 at 10:10 pm Marty has other arrest records, most of the family and extended family do. some others for Marty
********have you see mg record?
This is why I don’t understand how they weren’t investigated!
me said,in March 5th, 2010 at 10:08 pm curious…
ROFL!
JS was a correction officer and when he got caught selling drugs he was asked to retire early to my understanding. jmo
CathyJo63 said,
in March 5th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
Plz,I do too,Its a disgrace for grown ppl to make animals fight!
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It’s a disgrace and illegal.
treece said,in March 6th, 2010 at 12:03 am CathyJo63 said,
in March 5th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
Plz,I do too,Its a disgrace for grown ppl to make animals fight!
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It’s a disgrace and illegal.
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I love animals to much to see this happen.
AnneInTn said,
in March 5th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
JS was a correction officer and when he got caught selling drugs he was asked to retire early to my understanding. jmo
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retire early, he should have done time in prison
treece said,in March 6th, 2010 at 12:04 am AnneInTn said,
in March 5th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
JS was a correction officer and when he got caught selling drugs he was asked to retire early to my understanding. jmo
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retire early, he should have done time in prison
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Yep I agree but i dont think that happened.
Hey, CJ did you get my email? I was just checking to see if your head ache was better? or how you were feeling.
Me,
A book could be written on the relatives on all sides,same stories,different names,same myspaces different names,same lifestyles.But,the question is what did Misty do that night and why isn’t she telling.
WinterRose said,in March 6th, 2010 at 12:07 am
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Dont we wish we new all the answers to these questions?
Sure do Anne and it’s no coincidence Tommy still has no court date,just saying.
Yes, the more I learn about this case the more I know I don’t know. We need an ass load of hard truth!!! The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help them God.
They all have the felony arraignment,pretrial,etc,but nothing for Tommy.
WinterRose, I hadn’t put that together so they haven’t done an arraignment for Tommy. That is weird, I wonder why?
Nope,nothing,Misty,RC and Hope will be in March 31st.Misty for the arraignment Monday,but nothing for him,he’s just sitting there.
The only thing i wish is that Haleigh was home and justice for her. jmo
AnneInTn I totally agree HALEIGH HOME!!!! and justice for HALEIGH!!!
WinterRose, the only thing I wonder is if his deal is somehow different because he was already out on bond. Him breaking that bond alone makes him ineligible to bail out. Since he has to set there on the previous bond anyway I wonder if that prolongs his new charges court dates?? I don’t know just wondering.
WinterRose said,in March 6th, 2010 at 12:12 am Sure do Anne and it’s no coincidence Tommy still has no court date,just saying.
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What makes you say that? Were you at Court today? I understand Tommy was at St John’s Court today, according to the Putnam County Court Records. They wouldn’t have had time to list the new date yet.
WinterRose said,in March 6th, 2010 at 12:07 am .But,the question is what did Misty do that night and why isn’t she telling.
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IMO, she may have told everything she knows, or perhaps has lied about leaving the house. One way or the other, I don’t think PCSO should be holding their breath for a 17 year old to solve their case for them.
me, well what happened in court today? I haven’t heard anything about it either.
WinterRose said,in March 6th, 2010 at 12:19 am Nope,nothing,Misty,RC and Hope will be in March 31st.Misty for the arraignment Monday,but nothing for him,he’s just sitting there.
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I’m confused…the Court docket says he’s before St Johns Court on March 5th. Was that cancelled? Where is this info coming from? You can’t hold someone in jail without bail and not give them a court date!!
me, no need to get short with WinterRose, if she has missed a court date it is just an accident I am sure but I haven’t heard it in the news either. What have you heard about TOmmy in court?
Misty’s arraignment at St John’s is on Monday.
treece…I only know what the court docket says. Which is basically that he was to be transported to appear at St John’s Court on the 5th.
Hopefully by Monday or Tuesday St John’s records will be updated and we’ll know when his next court date is. Donna is also being arraigned at St John’s on Monday.
I’m not being short with WinterRose….just asking where her info is coming from. I’m going by the court’s websites….maybe she has a different source, I’m not sure.
2010-02-09 13 MOTION AND ORDER TO TRANSPORT
2010-02-09 13 03/05/2010 ST JOHNS COUNTY
That is from Tommy’s docket….maybe he’s being transported today but in court monday with Donna & Misty or maybe he was arraigned today…I’m not sure.
Ok me, thank you for the info and explanation.
I have had a long day, good night and sweet dreams to you all.
And on my reading of the court dockets, Hank Jr. is also back in Putnam County Court on March 31st. I also noticed Hank Sr. dropped the assault charges against Tommy.
Oh, maybe winterrose is looking up the name “Tommy Croslin” instead of Hank Jr….that would explain why she thinks he has no court dates!
His court dockets are under the name Hank Jr.
Me
I didn’t see him in PC booking,wouldn’t he be transfered to there,booked in PC and then released back to St Johns?If he did,guess we won’t have a record of what happened till Monday.I was thinking,either he told them he wanted a private lawyer and not public defender or has a public defender and he’s booked up,have to wait for a court opening?I don’t understand why there’s no court date yet.And why he’s not being tried on the 31st with the rest.
Oh no,not seeing you as being short with me,I was looking at the St Johns case search.So,he’ll be with them 3/31?Because I thought that was really wierd no court date.
No,it’s cool Treece,most people know I do myspace searches and other sources,I am not good with court records. 🙂
WinterRose…he is listed to appear at Putnam County on charges on the 31st (the b & e’s, drugs at the bus stop etc), and listed at St Johns (it was transferred from Putnam) either the 5th or 8th. Misty & Donna are both at St John’s monday for arraignment, so I am guessing on Monday they will all be arraigned, unless Tommy was today. I think Tommy’s most recent drug supply charge took place in St John’s, not putnam….that would explain why he’s being arraigned there on that charge.
This site has the putnam county court dockets…just punch in croslin% under the name, then scroll down to the Hank T Jr 01-21-2010 docket, click on it, and it shows you the court proceedings for his recent supply charge. It looks like his lawyer’s name is Werter…not sure if he’s a pd or not.
ooops…forgot the links…
https://www.putnam-fl.com/secure/public_disclaimer.php
and this one for st john’s court
http://www.clk.co.st-johns.fl.us/criminal/crimresearch.html
click on the “online search” option.
Thank you me,I knew about Misty and Donna’s Monday and all of them besides Donna on the 31st,but I couldn’t understand about Tommy’s.And the 31st will be a jury trial,I think.
Oh,didn’t they do Donna’s early and she won’t be going on Monday?
I’m not sure….the Court docket has her listed for Monday for arraignment. I wish the charges weren’t in 2 different counties…it makes it very confusing!
When I think about it though, we’ve not seen Tommy on any of the uc tapes released by PCSO, so his supply charge probably is in St Johns.
I just noticed Hank Sr’s doctor shopping charge is also on the 31st…LOL.
And noticed that Lisa has to undergo drug testing as part of her probation conditions for stealing the cheques from the neighbor. Not surprised she wanted to go to California desperately!
Yep,you’d think media would have been on it if he was in court today.He’s still showing in St Johns.
Oh I noticed that also,good grief and it wouldn’t surprise me if Lisa wasn’t arrested on the 31st for something right before court.LOL It’s all crazy.
Wow…don’t know how I missed this….Lisa (Misty’s mom) was charged with battery on Misty on August 5th…charges were dropped in October. And as we know, Hank Jr was charged with assaulting Hank Sr. What a family.
Yep…stealing a lady’s purse….disgusting. These people are desperate junkies (Tommy, Hank & Lisa) and would do anything for money, imo, which scares me. I won’t be at all surprised if we find out they sold Haleigh.
me, I c u weren’t being rude to WRose. I’m sorry, forgive me for being so dingy today. I have had a full week of it. lol
Just stopped back in on my way too bed. Got side tracked on my email. Hope you have a good week end.
O me, o me, o my, if someone sold her they are lower that dirt and don’t deserve air.
Stealing a purse,at Christmas,no less,ugh.
Lisa is back in court on the “felony theft” charge on the 18th. Wonder if she’ll get re-listed for the 31st too? Just to make it convenient for the family….lol.
WinterRose…other than the arrest and first appearance, I don’t recall any of their subsequent court appearances being covered by the press. I think the media might not cover much of this, other than their sentences, unless something major happens….I hope I am wrong.
Me, thank for info on JS dog fighting arrest. Very disturbing, to say the least. Add that to the drug charges AnneInTn mentioned, and, well – I feel very dis-heartened.
Me, plzstfu, I agree that it doesn’t matter the species of animal that is abused; whether cocks or dogs, rabbit or cat; same lack of empathy for living creatures.
Sheds a whole new light on Johnny Sheffield for me.
Holly, LE says it wasn’t a stranger abduction, so naturally anyone who was not a stranger to Haleigh should be on LE’s list of possible abductors.
WinterRose…I don’t know which is worse…stealing a purse at xmas or stealing from a kind blind neighbor. Both are very very low. I can’t help but feel sorry for Misty having Hank & Lisa & Tommy as her adult role models. Then Donna…not sure that was an improvement at all.
Jason, I’ve known about those charges for a year, but JS has still stayed off my radar, so far. Only because I know so little about him and don’t know what his motive would be. But, if I found out that Crystal called him and told him about receiving the warrant for unpaid child support, then I’d be concerned. I’m not sure if this is true or not, I’ve read it but not looked for records…but it has been said that he went to jail a number of years ago for unpaid child support. So, maybe he had an extreme reaction when Crystal got the letter?
To date, I’ve not gone for any “LE are corrupt” theories, but can’t help but wonder if the fact he was ex-PCSO might have played a role in the fact his side of the family appear to have been practically overlooked by PCSO.
LE said ‘not a stranger abduction’ versus ‘not an abduction’.
If that is really what LE beleives, than they have not ruled out abduction by a familiar person.
My guess is the person who tipped off PCSO to the drug supply was Hank Sr, and he did it when he was arrested for Dr. shopping, hoping he’d do better for himself by selling his kids out. Charming. I can’t help but see him & Lisa as the kind of people that had their children stealing for them at an early age. What a shame Misty, Tommy & Timmy weren’t taken from them when they were young (something should have been done and someone should have noticed that Misty was only about 10 years old when she was taken out of school). This case is a tragedy from so many angles.
I can bet the 31st trial will be covered by media.But since the drug arrests,I’d think the media would be at Tommy’s today.Monday they probably will,since it’s Misty.
They were at Misty and Hope’s.
Jason, imo, with the limited info we have, there are soooo many possible suspects. Even with all the criminals in Haleigh’s family(ies), I can’t help but wonder if it might just be someone from the neighborhood, who knew Haleigh lived in a fairly remote motor home, Ron worked nights, and they just waited for an opportunity. And I still find Joe’s quick conveniently timed departure very hinky.
WinterRose…is it actually for trial that day, or pre-trial?
I missed the Misty & Hope coverage. The only coverage I saw was their first appearance. I would think the trial could go for days if they all contest all the charges.
hello guys! Got my sound back,yippppie I A’
Me, funny you mention ‘LE corrupt’, as the connection JS to LE concerns me, and I haven’t wanted to go there, and post it on this board, but – he could very well have friends in LE who have fought dogs for profit. Birds of a feather . . .
AnneInTn mentioned he lost his LE job after a drug conviction(s).
I want to get dates, and the actual activity that resulted in his dog fighting/drug convictions but expect to be too busy over the next few days, at least, to do much research.
I will look into it further when I can because I want to see the whole picture, and let it go, or follow it further; just think it might lead to something much more revealing, as dog fighting, in particular, is not a solo activity.
Former LE: Chucks bail bonds, JS, who else?
CJ…yeah! Now you can listed to the 3 minutes worth of tapes they teased us with!
Yay, CathyJo! Happy for ya!
me said,in March 6th, 2010 at 1:49 am Lisa is back in court on the “felony theft” charge on the 18th. Wonder if she’ll get re-listed for the 31st too? Just to make it convenient for the family….lol.
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Actually,wasn’t it Lisa and Hank that handed over the gun Tommy stole from a neighbor?
Alotta Croox,lol
Hi CathyJo:
Do you know you can have your computer cleared of that worm?
Me,Why do ya think I am so disappointed,for 3 days waited…..for a whole 2 secs!
Shut Up Jason,you big Liar,ROFL!
I’ll never get over that one Jason!
Jason, maybe the Palatka Daily ran an article when he was busted? I did some googling earlier and couldn’t get the details. Was he married to Marie when she got busted for the drug house? Maybe that’s what ended his PCSO career? He seems to have quite a few charges involving violence from over the years.
Hello Karon… haven’t see you all day, how are you?
LoL Karon,I do nowwwww! LoL
How ya doin’?
Hey Adams!!!!!!
Hi Cathy!!!!!!!
Shoot,I can’t believe Mistys acting that way in jail about going to prison,Shoot i’d be on my knees beggin’..LoL She takes it well!
I’d confess to everything i ever did to get out,police skeer me! BAD!
I am doing good. You can have the worm removed, no kidding. I had my computer cleared of a worm for about $79.00. I took it to a computer repair shop, and they have the equipment to clear it.
CathyJo…IIRC, the blind neighbour noticed his gun missing shortly after they left, but not the cheques. He, or someone on his behalf called one of the Croslins as soon as they noticed it missing and told them that they knew Tommy stole it. I assume they brought it back to avoid him calling the police about it. What a shame he didn’t call sooner…LE may have kept a closer eye on Tommy if they knew what he was up to and capable of.
Cathy, I think Misty is just showing out!!! You catch that thank you to Amber?? Heee Heee
Hi Cent:
I have been kind of busy, today. How are you?
Maybe it’s just the character a person has to fight animals. Deranged, more than we can be sure of any other player here, or did I miss someone?
I believe Misty lies, so I can’t judge Joe’s character, and although Misty and Ron trafficked drugs, apparently used illegal drugs, and Misty even stole drugs from someone who must have trusted her [to paraphrase from a video recording of her in the UC, she ‘took them right out of their bottle’], they do not have the poor character of a man who participated in dog fighting.
To me, JS character is by far the worst.
Right Me,just seems like theyre all thieves or something!
I’m alright.
Hey, now you acting like a big Florida cockroach coming out of the woodwork!
FINE! BE THAT WAY!
Ha,ha, ha, ha, ha!
$79 dollars,OMG I just stomped mine,LoL
I had to reinstall the volume control,it was damaged!
Jason… who?
Hi, Beautiful!
Cobra used to swear by Johnny, but the last time he was on the show, he kind of slammed Johnny. I was surprised.
Hi, Karon! Glad to see you’re back!
I wasn’t Karon!!
Hunny,all i know is my hubbys bro beat a dog bad one time,while it was chained up,honey lemme tell ya,i told him if he hit that dog one more time i was calling! I can’t take that crap!
IMHO,If someones capable of that,they’d be capable of anything whatsoever!
Karon, I haven’t listened to the last couple radio shows; too much going on here.
Hello Jason… Have you seen a viral load vid of Misty and her Tit Tay pocket-book… yet?
Those computer worms just drag your computer down more and more, until it just won’t work.
whose a cockAroach Jason? LoL
Karen….with all due respect to Cobra, he also thought Tommy was a good guy. He’s changed his mind on that! And maybe Cobra didn’t know about the animal fighting charges when he said that?
Hi Jason:
It was awhile back that Cobra was on, again.
Hi Me:
You are right about that.
I think thats been my problem the entire time Karon,its a miracle cause i threatened to throw it right out on the yellow line,TG i didn’t now but no patience!!
I think Cobra was impressed with Johnny because he spent so much time with Cobra looking for Haleigh.
Adams,yea she is but hey i’d bawl on n/g whatever,LoL
When it’s a worm, it starts out working pretty good when you first turn it on, then it starts bogging down the longer you have it on.
Beautiful, I wanted to respond to you the other evening and explain my ‘patient’, but got caught up in a couple other brief convo before I left.
I have to call it a night here again, in just a few, as once again I’m being called for.
Long story short – family member developed a pressure sore last month, it progressed to stage 4, and still is, except that it is healing (once a four, always a four).
Requires regular lifting with pillows, changing postions, keeping the wound dressed, and whole body dry; friction limited, and so on.
Goal is to heal it (a second, smaller one is now scarred over), and keep new ones from developing.
I found an area that is irritated today, and that alarmed me, as part of it feels ‘bubbly’, as though it is ready to break.
THANKS for asking, Beautiful, I appreciate it.
you got that right Karon,i was having withdrawls,saw all of you guys listening to the tapes,LoL
I think Misty has had to be a pretty tough little cookie to survive.
Goodnite, all – enjoy your evening!
Wonder whats up with Rons relative who has Mistys stuff?? I wonder if the le got it??
Goodnight Jason!!!
Jason:
You are a mess. I hope it’s not on his butt. You might have to lance it, you know. LOL
Jason, I hope your family member is feeling better soon. Sounds like they are lucky to have you looking after them. Good nite.
See that vid by Papa The Chronicles of Misty?
I’d say where she was raised in a drug environment made her tough!
Basically when your parents are on drugs you fend for yourself!
Does anyone know why Johnny moved after Haleigh went missing? Had he always lived in Putnam County or did he often move? Anyone have links to videos of him handy?
Good night Jason. Go take care of your patients. I am an airplane stewardess. and I might have to fly out of here tonight.
Huh Adams,who,what,where, when and how?
Are you really one Karon?
Me,I thought he moved to ky!right after this!
Lucky you Karon,I wanted to be a comedian but everbody laffed at me,LoL
CathyJo…I agree. She had to get tough to survive in a family like that. And she’s still young, and this is really all she knows about the world. It’s no wonder she latched onto Ron…she must have been craving having a “normal” family.
Cathy… LLMPapa… youtube, The Chronicles of Misty… he also has a Rocky/Ron one regarding cousin Joe/Gun/Fight… Ron’s banged-up knuckles!!!!
But, I remember LE saying he hit the door/wall that night!!
Cobra said he had planned the move before Haleigh went missing, and they put it off as long as they could. I know Cobra said Crystal and Ron lived with Johnny for several years while Haleigh was a baby.
CathyJo, any idea why he’d move to Kentucky? Did he have a job, home etc in Satsuma? Very odd to go when he did. There is so much odd stuff in this case.
Don’t I know it Me,mannn!!
They don’t even get to be a child at all!
My bmum had 4 dtrs and 1 son after she remarried,you talk about tough kids,everyday they never failed to see her passed out in front of the kitchen stove or out the back door,sad!!!!
Cent:
No. My rear end wouldn’t fit into the little uniforms, anymore. I was just teasing.
Karon,
I wonder if anyone corroborates that or if it’s just Johnny saying he planned it before? He looks to have lied to Art Harris…according to Art, when he asked him about the dog fighting charges, he denied it, said it was for stealing dogs, and blamed the then 18 year old Ron for stealing the dogs. Art doesn’t seem to have probed any further…wonder why not? LOL.
Oh Ok Adams,i got confused..as usual!!
IMO, LLMPapa is a sicko and personally, I wouldn’t watch another one of his hate filled videos for anything! The guy needs his head examined.
I have no earthly idea Me,thats what i wondered since the day i heard it!
Cathy confused about what?
and that tape he says they can’t touch him,put those 2 things together and i thought,well geee don’t the cops wonder too,lol
Cobra said Johnny, worked harder than anybody else trying to find Haleigh. He said he didn’t have to look that hard if he had her. He could have just played along.
CathyJo, yes very sad. No child should have to grow up like that. What a sorry shame it happens with such frequency, and people just seem to ignore it. How could no one have not noticed Misty was not going to school…she sure slipped through the system.
Then we’ve got Crystal, Marie took her out of school in grade 8 to home school her, but she admits she never did. Then carries on about Crystal moving away at 14 (well, hello, mommy was running a drug house), but seems to have done absolutely nothing to get her brought back home!! As though a 14 year old should be free to do what they like. Goodness. My friends & I tried to run away at 14, and we were not only caught, but grounded for it. What poor excuses for parents these people were.
btw,it takes a nut to move to ky,lol
I lived there all my life till 99 and hello i thought i was in new york city when i got to Tn!if anything Im moving away….not too!
CathyJo…do you know where the tape is where he talks about the cops not being able to touch him…I don’t think I’ve seen it, but would like to.
Hunny,i ran away at 14,and i think i still got bruises from that..LoL
Karon, perps are often very enthusiastic volunteers in searching for those that disappeared. There has been more than one that has done it before. He also genuinely believed Tommy was a good guy who searched hard.
The Chronicles of Misty,
That confused me Adams.lol
yes i have it,brb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9HS1Pa-6Ak&feature=related
Me this one!
I have missed so much guys its hard to catch up,lol
Are you a stewardess Karon? LoL
Just watched the first thirty days… WoW did they really get married on the day of a search? That is news to me!!!
No way in this world or any ohter world would you get me on a plane!!!!!
who Adams??
Cathy… Karon said she was joking about the Stewardess… I don’t like to fly either!! Developed a phobia in the last few years.
Who… what?
I study body language and speach patterns, and Misty strikes me as being more truthful when she is talking about her Cousin Joe taking Haleigh, than any other time. When you watch the voice analysis tape, she speaks much more fluidly when she is talking about Tommy and Cousin Joe, especially, about Joe. That is really the only time, when she is being questioned that Misty sounds really truthful. You should watch and see how much more honest she looks when she is talking about those two. You can see it. I am just afraid she was in on it, because she resented Hleigh. WBGregg said she had told him she wanted to have her own baby with Ron.
married the day of the search? LoL
***************************lOl i was gonna say she had nerve!
Wow…listening to the interview with Karen Simmer….she sounds like she’s telling the truth.
I always have Karon,I think she is telling the truth that she don’t know about Haleigh!
I just said I was a stewardess. because Jason said he was a doctor.
thats funny to me too now,Somewhere i read a statement that says js knows exactly where Misty was that night!
Guess who else refuses to fly… Aretha Franklin
ohhhhhhhhhhhh,lol Karon!
I wondered!
brb gonna see if i can find that statemnt!
Karen Cox…one of my many theories involves Misty possibly leaving Tommy & Joe to watch the kids, or leaving the house and tommy and/or Joe came in and took her, or her sleeping through Tommy and/or Joe coming in and taking her. I think those are real possibilities….she has said from day 1 that she suspects these 2.
Cathy… yes the other night we were talking of JS saying Misty was out and about that night. Did we ever find out where he says she was?
That was a liile too much, about them getting married at all. I wouldn’t have been able to quit crying long enough to get married. I thought this was a marriage born in Hell. WOW! They were asking for disaster. How could you have your mind right to make a decision like that?
can’t find it,all links i tried are broken,hmmmmmmmmmm
Me:
Cobra said Misty says she was scared of Cousin Joe, but that was who she was doing alot of running around with right before Haleigh went missing.
Karon… yes, it seems that it was on a day that LE resumed searching? I didn’t know that!!
Thats why i believed the story that he married her to keep her close,i just don’t see somebody getting married in dark glasses,and Mistys in a gown and him levis,lol
CathyJo…thx for trying…i’ll see if i can find it….do you know what site it was on?
I didn’t know it was the day of the search!
and weren’t they busted on Mistys 18th bday?
Cathy… were they Levis jeans? I think it was no dress-up occasion, cause their church refused to allow the service to be conducted there.
Misty turned 18 in Dec…. drug bust was in Jan
Karon,
I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s afraid/wary of a few people in her family…but it seems like that’s all she’s got in the world and she just keeps going back to them. We’ve got to keep in mind she had only just turned 17 and grew up with an incredibly bad background with a family of criminals, and has no where else to go (or at least in her young mind she sees few options). Very odd Joe left when he did. Odd that Tommy lied about not being there and only came forward when he had to. Odd that Johnny left town when he did. Odd that Marie gave Chad a false alibi. This is a real whodunnit.
http://www.oguiadacidade.com.br/video/video/uEgeGyRQgzU/HaLeigh-Cummings-The-Truth-Revealed.html
Here it is guys!
I posted your link too,do you guys c the 2 i posted!
I think Misty, Tommy and Joe may have been at the house partying while Ron was gone. Lindsey was at work. They may have been doing drugs, and Misty was either too drugged to stop them from taking her, or she let them take her. Remember the pink shirt in the dirty clothes pile by the door. Did they take that off of Haleigh for a reason? What was going on? This is just guessing. I don’t know.
I have always thought Misty had to have drugs that night, because of the bender she had been on. I feel like she either left the house to get some drugs or Tommy and Joe brought them over to the house for her.
Things may have gotten out of hand because of the drugs.
The van being move and scratched that night. Cousin Joe being over at Timmy’s where the van was that night. That is a little too much co-incidence for me.
CathyJo…your links didn’t come up for me.
awww,go to you tube….. floodofnoah……search for js i aint going to jail…………
The JS tape is at youtube….
HaLeigh’s Grandpa Marty Sheffield: “I aint going to jail!”
Me:
You are right about her being afraid of a few people in her family.
Look Cathy… JINXXXX
also the one of misty in bed with Haleigh…..floodofnoah too,search Haleigh,Misty,
I wish the linx posted,you could go straigt to them!
Karon, I think that’s possible, but personally, I just can’t imagine Misty letting them take her. We know she smoked pot with them, that would have made her very sleepy if she was already tired. I wouldn’t be surprised if Tommy decided to B & E the place after he got the call from Ron about not being able to get Misty on the phone. I think if Tommy and/or Joe are involved, that it most likely happened when Misty was out or asleep, but of course, I might be wrong. That’s only one of about 10 possible different theories I have, but it’s up at the top.
LoL Adams,Thanx…….glad i have translators,lol
Karon,
I should have added, I agree there is something strange with the van. As far as I’m aware, no one has ever been able to explain how the scratch got there, however, it does seem Joe and/or Tommy or Timmy were driving it that night.
Weird all the theories we have had and when the truth comes out we prolly won’t be close……go figure!
CathyJo63 said,in March 6th, 2010 at 3:43 am awww,go to you tube….. floodofnoah……search for js i aint going to jail…………
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Thank you for that. I just heard an interview with Johnny where he talks about wanting the movie rights to the story…wth?
I’ll look those up in a little while. I am going to have to turn in pretty quick. All of you should re-watch that voice analysis test when it come to the part about Tommy and Joe.
Misty had no money and had to sell drugs to feed herself. I dont really believe there is such a thing as character. People who are rich who are sitting pretty like to judge people who are less lucky in life. Misty has shown no signs of guilt. Maybe young girls are good at hiding guilt . I dont know. Most people would be stressing out and certainly would be hiding from media and the victims family.
Wow…if that’s really Johnny saying that about wanting the movie rights, that is highly disturbing.
I’ve lloked everywhere for grammasykes lwaving the laundy on the porch,cant find it either!
I’ll bet its him me,and also there somewhere is where mg gave Haleighs shoes away,that bugs me big time!
Cathy I’ll take a look around for that also!!
Remember Misty’s blanket was supposed to be in the van.
ty Adams,I know i saw it!
Yes Karon and thats odd as hello!
whatever it is,it has to involve those blankets!!! something about them!!
did yall ever see the one where cs said a man dressed in black was stalking them at the HBC?
Highly suspicious to me!
I’m thinking Blanket had some other male DNA embedded in it!!!
I really can’t see Misty or Tommy doing it, but we don’t know what shape any of them were in due to drugs. Misty has always said Joe is crazy, and she say, I mean crazy.
Misty did seem to be genuinely crushed when it all first happened.
Then her dad hovers over her in jail saying you have to tell, then hinting for her not to get her brother in trouble. I don’t know.
Yes, I heard about the stalker at the HBC. I didn’t pay too much attention to the claim!!
Its a hard call Karon,I can’t see her hurting Haleigh,on purpose anyway!!thats why i lean toward another mans dna on the blanket and Haleigh catching them!
Karon, I don’t have to re-watch it….I’ve always felt she was telling the truth about suspecting those 2. Months later she again was on tv saying she suspected Tommy, how his car was seen there, how he’d been using lots of drugs since etc, and I thought she was telling the truth then too.
Hope you have a good sleep and wake to good news about Haleigh.
Again Jinxxxx!
me either,thats why i think cs amd mg made up the jr tale!
I think Hanky knows that Misty words/thoughts/capabilities are as hinky as their morals and values. He knows what his daughter is all about!!
Karon…I’d love to be able to read the transcript of the 30 hours of interviews they did with Misty and see the other transcripts also. I remain very confused about the blanket and possible significance of it and whether it was found in the van, why it was there in the first place etc.
Cathy…. I believe the JR. tale… just think it was relayed differently.
CathyJo….that was the night she injured herself with a machete….I think drugs/partying probably explain that episode.
Cent: The blankets and the van ties into all of this. There was something on one of those blankets that they didn’t want found in my opinion.
Tommy was so drugged up he fell asleep at the wheel taking his kids to school. There is no telling what kind of shape they were all in that night.
Karon, yes I believe the blanket is significant… has anyone ever stated the whereabouts of it now?
could be, but i figure cs made that up b/c she said a mib was stalking her!or she was trying to make more ppl aware of his tale so theyd believe it! I dunno!but yea i do too cause he told about the couch bouncing too!
cent…imo, Hank is a nasty junkie that would sell his own kids for 10 cents. I think he did a deal on his Dr. shopping charge by giving LE the info that started the sting. Hank cares about Hank and is hoping for more handouts for his “help”. He is obviously high as a kite every time he goes to that jail, you never see him without his sun glasses, he talks sooooo fast, and sniffles throughout. Serious junkie.
If jr said that and cs said a mib was there,why the hello didn’t they call le?
Not doubt Me, that he squawked on something! I’m thinking he retold of his suspicions of Ron and the “killer” pills… and that started the ball rolling… I can’t really see him turning Misty in.
I know alot happens with some drugs that wouldn’t happen any other way. I don’t know. Solve Crimes asked us the other night: If Haleigh was dead when she was still in the house, why didn’t the cadaver dogs alert while still in the house? The same goes for the van, too, I guess.
Re the man in black that Jr apparently told Crystal about. The only statement that Jr has made that is of real interest to me, is what he told LE that night. They would have been trained in taking statements from children, would have been careful to not make suggestions to him, and the events would have been fresh in his memory. That, imo, is the most reliable statement. He may say a thousand things between now and the trial (if there ever is one), as kids have very active imaginations and can often confuse fact and fantasy.
I think it’s sad that Crystal went public with that story, as if he has said something different to LE when they interviewed him, any good defence lawyer will use that subsequent statement to discredit him, and with a 3 year old, his evidence will be worthless. She did not help any possible case against the perp by putting him on Geraldo and telling the public this stuff.
Right Adams,and also if you remember Hank told le Ron tried to kill him with a pill?? LoL
Cathy… do we know that they didn’t? I just remember it being reported in Geraldo… but I don’t recall if LE had already known about the tale! Yes, it’s all suspicious… cause really, how can LE really prove or disprove the claims… it would be based on a Professional’s word/experience/observation… yet, professionals can be wrong!
cent…I reckon, if he thought there was a dollar in it for him, he’d turn her in in a second. I think Hank is a bad man and disgusting excuse for a father. No wonder Tommy turned out like he did. He wanted to deny the kids so he’d have money when/if he got out of jail…I bet he learnt that from Hank. I would be pretty sure Hank & Lisa always put their personal needs above the well being of their children. They disgust me.
Cent:
I have never heard if they found Haleigh’s blanket or the blanket that was in the van.
CathyJo63 said,
in March 6th, 2010 at 4:11 am
Right Adams,and also if you remember Hank told le Ron tried to kill him with a pill?? LoL
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Yep, Cathy that’s what I meant by the “killer” pills… heee heee
What i read said that it was the same day she had a seizure at the HBC,and when they got ther, there was an axe near cs?? dunno,lol and i believe Cobra said in an audio tape that there were pills in the floor by cs??? don’t ask me,lol just what i read!
CathyJo63 said,in March 6th, 2010 at 4:05 am could be, but i figure cs made that up b/c she said a mib was stalking her!or she was trying to make more ppl aware of his tale so theyd believe it
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I think that is a real possibility! But some drugs can make people crazy…we had a soap star here, about 20 years old, dating a very very rich guy…goes missing, next day police get a call…her and a bikie call saying bikies with guns etc are trying to break into their home….police arrive and they find her and the bikie hovering in the closet…they swear bikies were trying to break in and get them and appear terrified. Surveillance video was reviewed, and no one had come to the house! Some drugs are very bad. They were on cocaine. She lost the boyfriend, recently came out of rehab, and just signed for new tv show. LOL.
Karon Cox said,
in March 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
I know alot happens with some drugs that wouldn’t happen any other way. I don’t know. Solve Crimes asked us the other night: If Haleigh was dead when she was still in the house, why didn’t the cadaver dogs alert while still in the house? The same goes for the van, too, I guess.
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Not long ago, I asked that about the Dogs… there would have to be some signs of decomp before they pick up on it… I looked it up to see how much time had to pass before they alert. I’ll have to find the info.
The thing that really rang true about what Jr. said was that he woke up when the man took Sissy because he had squeeky shoes. That sounded like something that a kid might say, but an adult wouldn’t think up. It really rang true, but he may have been in a sleepy state and went to sleep in the van, and was taken most anywhere, and woke up when a man with squeeky shoes took Sissy. We don’t kbow.
I don’t like to think in that direction… but here my MI5 mind goes… The AC was fixed for a “reason”!!
Great Cent, I was wondering about that.
Me,same thing happened to my niece by marriage,her dad knocked for an hour,she wouldn’t come to the door and he knew she was home and knowing she’s a druggie he kicked her door in,she was in the closet shaking like a possum shi^%^ng a watermelon!
So have i wondered about that a/c guy too!
Cent:
Do you mean to keep down decomp. or to get the ac man over to the house?
Keep decomp down!!
I remember Misty saying something about the ac guy was a distant relative of Ron’s.
ahhhhhh Karon,really?
which shouldn’t surprise us tho!
Really… a relative, I didn’t hear that. This whole thing is so twisted.
like Tommy,i dunno why he waited so long to admit he was there,its a mess!!
Cent:
Do you think this could have been planned that far in advance? Were they capable of that with all of their drugging?
I just had a thought. What if Cousin Joe wasn’t as much of a druggies as Tommy and Misty? They could have really been out of it, and Cousin Joe took advantage of the situation.
The way Misty spoke of the ac guy, she wasn’t sure how he was related. It sounded distant.
Isn’t joe the one Misty said was on crack and got crazy after Haleigh went missing,?
I don’t know if I believe that it was planned… only cause I want to believe that HaLeigh is alive. If it was planned by the Croslins… then where could she be? If it was a fluke, then how deep are they all in… that would in my opinion include Ron!
One reason I say Ron would be included in the fluke is because of ALL his post behavior!!
Misty may not know, exactly, what happened, but she knows more than she is telling about that night. I am almost sure of that. She know of at least a possibility of what happened.
LE said Haleigh was never put to bed that night, and they have let very little out, so we can probably believe that. Sometimes, I think they put out some false information for a reason, however.
Yes… I thought some of the LE put-outs were of designed.
I agree,I’d bet Mistys lying but not sure what about exactly,I think there was something with another man or she was gone !
Ron has taken the lead on what Misty says or doesn’t say on her interviews. It may be that he thinks drugs are responsible, and he had them in the house. IDK
I lean toward another man! did anybody find out yet who Tallent is?
In all honesty…. I think that all the families are doing some shuffling and covering-up. I mean from GGM on down. It may not be the worst case scenario, but I think every last one of them knows some truth!!
I don’t think Ron hurt her nor Misty really?? but somewhere theres something that happened!
I agree Adams,it seems they kept in close contact of one another and lived close by so I think everybody thinks or knows something that will help!
No don’t know the 411 on Talant… but did you guys catch Misty saying her first love’s name?
It bugs me too about the tatoo Misty got after the divorce and in public they wanted us to think they werent together!
Well, it is a puzzle, and we are missing a piece. It will all come together, soon, I think. If it doesn’t LE will be sure there is not another Croslin out on the street. They will all keep being arrested over and over, until one of them gives.
I think, Misty may have already told them something, hence the LDT.
I want to hear/see the full tapes!!! I wonder what Amber thought of Misty thanking her for meeting Ron? That’s the stuff that makes it hard to believe that tongues are NOT wagging… you know those snide remarks are getting back to the hood, people have to be talking this!!
No i didn’t??? What was it………who rather?
**about this
I think they are all in on more than they want anyone to know, I agree.
Cathy go to WESH.com
Thats when she admits to still loving Ronnie.. her first love was Rob!!!
Ohh yeah.. per reporter… Misty lost 7lbs
Off Topic!
Just wondered if yall saw this?
Jose Baez filed a motion Friday asking Judge Strickland to declare Casey Anthony indigent for costs. This means she’s broke and can’t pay for her defense. She has already paid $111,954.00–almost 90,000 to Baez and the rest to Lyon (who is supposedly working for free). It’s not known how Casey has managed to pay that amount.
ohhhhhh,will do,ty
Yep.. I saw Casey is broke.
Well, I had better go to bed before I fall out of bed. It is fun posting at night without so much traffic. We can just bombard each other with ideas. Cent, I am really wondering about how long it would take for decomp. to set in, enough the dogs would pick up on it.
I will find it… I read depending on environment… 15min 2-3 hours (paraphrasing)
Goodnight Karon!
Lyons is promoting a book off of the publicity of this trial, and she wants a salart too.
Broke,lol I din’t know she had money,why she stole it all the time,lol
Lyons is promoting a book off of the publicity of this trial, and she wants a salary too.
I wouldn’t buy her book,hell no!
I guess its ok for ppl to kill their children,jeeeeeeeez!
Didn’t sell the photos and Vids… I saw on NG that the folks that taped Jorhan wanted like 160 G’s for that little snippet of vid.
Guess I’ll hit the bed too,Dakotas coming today! LoL Good night Girls!!!
Cent:
If you are in a panic, to get rid of a body, you would be moving pretty fast, before Ron came home.
** 116 G’s or 160… can’t remember… my brain is tossing with this headache… and I can hear my brother in-law snoring… I’m getting agitated by it.
Good night, for sure, this time.
GoodNight see ya later!!
Good night eveyone. Let’s hope we wake to good news re Haleigh!
I just heard the interview with PCSO Major Gary Gowling re the fake search. What he said was very interesting, and it seems to me he is strongly hinting that he suspects the Sheffields/Griffis in Haleigh’s disappearance.
Then we’ve got Hardy saying this about 5 weeks later…
Posted Feb 3, 2010
But Hardy warned against “tunnel vision,” and said no one has been ruled out in the massive effort to find Haleigh Cummings or learn what happened to her, in our wide-ranging 30 minute interview. “Everyone keeps saying, ‘Misty, Misty,’ but we’re not just focusing on the one person who is being reported on,” he told me.
Hmmmmm….seems to me LE may be still looking at lots of possibilities.
Crystal Sheffield is an odd duck. Would not surprise me if she had something to do with haleigh disappearance. I dont think misty knows anything at all.
When reading about the dirty laundry, I just thought about Misty saying Haleigh peed the bed. I don’t remember if she ever said when she did it? Sort of throws new questions or maybe answers when I think about the unexplained dirty laundry being done that late or early in the a.m. I wondered how much trouble Haleigh got into when she had these accidents?
Karon Cox, please refrain from lieing about me and keep your snide remarks about a member of my family to yourself.
I never said I was a doctor, but I could have said that I was ‘doctoring’ ‘my patient’, and that would have been correct.
“My patient’ is an elderly family member with a pressure sore that has yet to heal after more than a month, a pressure sore that healed and has scarred over, and another skin abrasion that we’re trying to keep from becoming a ptressure sore.
Not a joking matter, Karon. These things kill; eat to the bone.
If someday you find yourself caring for an elderly relative whom YOU care about, please remember my post, and yours.
I’ve had mean-spirited comments in response to my posts a couple times, but yours, Karon was down-right cruel. Never expected you to talk like that.
Your suggestion to lance it means you don’t even know what a pressure sore is. Never took care of an elderly person, I can tell.
Well, you know, if you live a long life, you just might find yourself FEELING the pain of one, as a whole lot of people do.
True – the board’s purpose is discussion about Haleigh, but sadly, your response is a just a reminder to never mention, for even a moment, anything about my personal life.
Jason, did the debridements give any relief?
((((((((Jason)))))))
Next Donna Brock will be saying she’s with the CIA…
I’m innocent, I’m a Good Guy…
What she should be saying is……..I’m a POS.
Becky said,in March 5th, 2010 at 11:04 am In one of the jailhouse conversations between Misty and her Dad, he asks if she thinks Ronald will go away for a long time and she says yes. Then he says for the drugs I mean and quickly says oh nevermind…what else does Hank think or know Ronald is involved in, I wonder? I think Misty is covering for Ron in Haleighs disappearance and has been since day one.
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WOW Becca, you just blew me away!!! Never in a million years would I have ever thought I would hear you say that…. WOW.. Don’t misunderstand me.. I’m not in disagreement, I am just surprised..
Good Morning all!
Have we ever found out the date that Ron and Crystal were to be in court in Febuary 2009?
I just read that they were to appear that Tuesday morning Febuary 10, 2009 at 8:30 am.
I hope I never spend another year looking for a missing child. Something needs to be done about the laws that are ment and made to protect our children, but, in the end seem to protect the MONSTERS that prey upon our children.
I think I would rather spend the next year lending my voice and efforts to a Public out cry to DEMAND JUSTICE for all the children that the current legal system seems to have failed, and demand priority status and strict investigative protocols to have for crimes committed against children under the age of 18.
When we tell are children there is no such things as MONSTERS and they do not hide under their bed, WE ARE LIER’S!!!!!
wait a minute said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:15 am When reading about the dirty laundry, I just thought about Misty saying Haleigh peed the bed. I don’t remember if she ever said when she did it? Sort of throws new questions or maybe answers when I think about the unexplained dirty laundry being done that late or early in the a.m. I wondered how much trouble Haleigh got into when she had these accidents?
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Wait,to my understanding Misty was gone for the weekend partying with WBP,Naynay and God only knows who else and just came back to Ronald,I know in the lieD test she said Haleigh had pee’d in the bed she guessed……..and her blanket smelled like pee,anyhoo the night Haleigh disappeared was her 1st night back with Ron,and to my understanding also she didn’t want to babysit and Ron’s mom TN didn’t either so here we are…….Someone correct me if I am wrong,lol
Cathy,
Who knows for sure? I have speculated that HaLeighs blankets may have smelled like urine to the officers that responded that morning. I had thought it unlogical to use HaLeighs bedding in the manner they did by placing her sheets and blanket on the ramp at the back door that early morning for the canine unit to track. IMO i would assume she had wet the bed again that night, because Misty is wanting to make it clear she washed the blanket because it had smelled like pee that evening and she claims she washed it.
I had also wondered why the abductor would remove HaLeighs clothes and the need for the kitchen light and my logic is the abductor realized HaLeigh had wet the bed and needed the light to remove her clothes and find something else on her. It could of very well have come from the dirty clothes or that pile of laundry that was dropped off that night. Who knows? I also think it odd the abductor chose to go off into those woods behind the trailers and go directly to a small pond before going back to green lane and then drive thru the neighborhood like the did not know how to get out of there or the were expecting the scent dogs to track HaLeighs scent. As far as Misty being to up set at keeping the kids that night doesn
t realy fly with me. She was able to put them to bed and get to bed her self at 10 pm.
SHE DIDN’T DO DISHES OR ALL THE DIRTY LAUNDRY and I do not imagine she was expecting company that early morning and would of cleaned a little more if she was setting the stage that was going to involve the police. I do not believe she would of forgot the fact that HaLeigh’s Hanna Montana Shirt she wore to bed was still in the home and she claims HaLeigh was wearing it.
Karon Cox said,in March 6th, 2010 at 2:48 am Jason:
You are a mess. I hope it’s not on his butt. You might have to lance it, you know. LOL
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Jason said…
Not a joking matter, Karon. These things kill; eat to the bone.
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I don’t mean to pile on, but he’s not exaggerating. Complications related to a pressure sore are what killed Christopher Reeve.
The story that Marie shared with media of HaLeighs near drowning incident was on 02/12/2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybLiwshayRo.
The had no evidence at that point that HaLeigh had drowned near by. In fact the evidence suggested that HaLeigh was removed by an adult not that she wondered out into the dark and drowned.
Also note this was mention in the prior custody hearings.
NO one took HaLeigh to the hospital after this near drowning incident neither.
No tapes yet? I wonder if they will come out today? Does anyone else feel that its been a little too quiet lately?jmo
I do Tobias!!
awwwwwww,Sorry Tobias….you come and i get company!!
NG sounded like she has croup, she should have drank some hot tea with lemon lol
CathyJo – I think M came back to the MH and spent Sunday night there. Remember she and R were supposedly up late talking? Then Monday morning Haleigh was taken to the bus for school. Supposedly M and R “napped” that morning. What poor little Jr did while they napped I don’t know. IF he got any sleep the night before I’d think he’d be full of energy.
Anyway it does not make sense to me that M would not want to baby sit that night because she was tired. She should have asked someone to take care of the kids from when R went to work to when the children went to bed. Why need someone else to babysit “that night?”
Instead of all the hours before then when the kids would be playing, need their dinner and be put to bed.
If someone had covered for her from 4 or 5 – 8 pm she could have then gone back and gone to bed again herself when the kids were in bed.
(Just thoughts)
I agree she slept some on Sunday night because she says we ate breakfast when we woke up and Haleigh wanted an outfit that was at GGMS.
Then she slept again after they got home until at least 12 or 1 I think she says. Ron seemed to be doing alright with the sleep he got before he took off to work. I dont buy the I was tired story, if she was tired she would have left the cleaning til morning. jmo
Why would she need to go with Ron to take Haleigh to school? She could have slept those early morning hours. jmo
Ever since I heard that M told someone she did not want to babysit that night, I have wondered if she had other plans for that night.
Like another “party” to go to? A drug buy? A date? That could be a reason for her to have to leave the MH (taking the kids with her or leaving the kids unattended – and in either case possibly “dosing” them with Benedryl or something.) Or maybe it’s a reason someone had to COME to the MH that night and something happened.
Again, just thoughts.
Oh, and I think M said that Haleigh had wet the bed “the night before” meaning Sunday night. So I’ve always wondered why she did not wash that blanket until about 8pm Monday night.
Unless it’s just a lie. Haleigh might have wet her blanket sometime Monday evening. Also I guess it CAN happen but usually I’d think some sheets might get pee on them plus whatever Haleigh was wearing when it happened. So only having to wash the blanket because she peed on it doesn’t make much sense. IMO
M2C, I think the whole reason she took off on the weekend was because she was sick of always babysitting. Notice that weekend they ended up with someone other than Ron. I think she wanted to live with Ron but was tired of the 24/7 with the kids. jmo
Tobias@ 12:23 – I agree. I’ve always questioned M’s “love” for the children. I’m more inclined to think that she’d found her “prince” and she was playing a role – pretending to be the person she thought R wanted her to be – the “perfect wife/step-mom/future mom.”
But she found out just before that weekend that either he did not want more children or he and C were talking about getting back together.
So that’s when she realized that all she was was a “glorified” babysitter, live-in maid, cook, etc. And that it might not ever be anything else.Of course we know that most moms ARE babysitters, maids, laundresses, cooks etc!
She just didn’t want to do that (a) for other peoples’ kids and/or (b) without the title of Mrs and her own kid(s) to go along with it.
So I think she was still very discontent – even then being “back with” R.
M2C, Since the kids were with GGMS on the weekend where was Ron? I dont think he was pining away waiting on Misty to return. No one has said what his or Crystal weekend activities were. I would think since the media got hold of Mistys weekend they would have made mention of this too? jmo
M2C, I also feel that the bomb about WBG hadnt been let out yet, she still had that little secret to keep hidden from Ron.jmo
Tobias, I have never even heard for sure where the children were that weekend or what R was doing. I would HOPE that LE looked in to that.
But I don’t know.
I think one of Misty’s fellow partiers leaked the news about that binge party. (Not sure though) but it’s never even been questioned let alone denied.
I’m sorry but I have to leave for a bit. See you all later!
tobias said,
in March 6th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
M2C, Since the kids were with GGMS on the weekend where was Ron? I dont think he was pining away waiting on Misty to return. No one has said what his or Crystal weekend activities were. I would think since the media got hold of Mistys weekend they would have made mention of this too? jmo
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could they have been together part of the weekend?
Goodmorning all, texas mommy, you’ve aroused my curiosity with your last paragragh of your 11:04 post. Perhaps haleigh wet the bed again in the middle of the night, and misty lost it. Perhaps Haleigh woke her with leg cramps and misty lost it…she called tommy who help her disposeof her body…No decomp hit in the mh? Maybe haleigh wasn’t dead yet, just knocked out…they took her and dumped her in with the gators knowing they would clean up the mess. I know how that sounds, and I’m sorry for saying it this way…but I can’t help wonder… If misty hit her hard enough to knock her out, she could have appeared dead to a 17 year old crackhead druggie and her brother…both deathly afraid of ron so they got rid of the body…
Good Morning Me”PP”thinks!!
Whatever it is has alot to do with those blankets.I believe that!
I had to butt in but expecting company in a few,and OMG I dropped a can of green beans on my toe…………..omggg!!Thought i was dying!
Ding Dong!!! Open the door…. Cathy it’s me…. I’ve got the Buffalo hooves !!
This may be a little to deep for some or to honest for others. If so just pass it by.
Long years ago when a child was born, instead of seeing the beauty and innocence of a newborn, people would look for a babies weakness. If that child had a disability they would kill the child. No chance at life.
That seems to have set the standard for today. When one is weak people prey upon them. When someone is going threw an unbelievably hard time others like to judge.
Thats the opposite of what the Lord would do. He carries us when we are down. He lifts us up and pulls us threw. Maybe thats why there was only one set of footprints. No one else offered to help Jesus carry the fallen one.
We will not only be judged by what we do but also by what we have not done.
Such hate and bitterness, it is clear this is not about Haleigh. Its about trying to balance the scale. A child is missing and you people bicker like its a popularity contest. Trying to win favortism. Who’s the better parent, who cares, they both are parents. This is not a perfect world and no one is perfect. This father and mother deserves prayers and love. They share something together, a child, a littel girl and her name is HALEIGH.
Lastly, I say this, think of someone you love dearly and if they were gone what would you expect out of people.
When Jesus said (paraphrashing) who is without sin cast the first stone he was writing in the sand, and what do you think he was writing.. (imo) he was writing the sins of all those standing around so eager to throw stones, but one by one they walked away. So do you have rocks in your pocket, or love in you heart.
LoL Adams and i gotta broke toe i think……..lord i saw the light too,had to turn away from it…LoL
m2c♥ said,
in March 6th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Oh, and I think M said that Haleigh had wet the bed “the night before” meaning Sunday night. So I’ve always wondered why she did not wash that blanket until about 8pm Monday night.
Unless it’s just a lie. Haleigh might have wet her blanket sometime Monday evening. Also I guess it CAN happen but usually I’d think some sheets might get pee on them plus whatever Haleigh was wearing when it happened. So only having to wash the blanket because she peed on it doesn’t make much sense. IMO
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I don’t believe Misty ever said who made the blanket smell like pee, could have been Jr.
fALLEN,GO SMOKE SOME MORE CRACK!
Betchu got a rock in yours,crack rock!
Cathy… think of your toe!!!!
On the ld test video she said Haleigh pee’d I GUESS?
mlee said,
in March 6th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Becky said,in March 5th, 2010 at 11:04 am In one of the jailhouse conversations between Misty and her Dad, he asks if she thinks Ronald will go away for a long time and she says yes. Then he says for the drugs I mean and quickly says oh nevermind…what else does Hank think or know Ronald is involved in, I wonder? I think Misty is covering for Ron in Haleighs disappearance and has been since day one.
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WOW Becca, you just blew me away!!! Never in a million years would I have ever thought I would hear you say that…. WOW.. Don’t misunderstand me.. I’m not in disagreement, I am just surprised..
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That’s not becca, it’s a Becky
Funny… but know has been bickering this Morning, yet someone is trying to get it started!! Read Jan’s statement!!
i’M TIRED OF PPL RUNNING THRU THE DOOR AND JUDGING EVERY THING WE SAY!
They want the blog closed,but why i will never know!
I read Jans statement but they don’t come to the door and start screaming at me! I’ve had it with the Coox!
But i got my point across! I am done! LoL
I know cathy… the first thing they holler is it’s a open forum
Karon Cox said,
in March 6th, 2010 at 4:31 am
I remember Misty saying something about the ac guy was a distant relative of Ron’s.
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I believe she said Ron’s cousin’s ex also worked for the same company not that was him at the mobile home.
m15/spooks/cent!!!! sorry, got called to company…seems lately everytime I comment here I get company so I fall behind again….shuts the door to hide for awhile,\
Not you Cathy read the statement… I meant the poster
off topic…Cathyjo..you should persue your “comedian” dream. The ability to make others laugh is rare and..it’s a good thing!
Have you all connected any dots with R’s funeral home friend?
If its so bad,why do they come? LoL
Oh,I know Adams!!!LoL Just sayin,LoL
Funeral Home friend??
fallen, It’s quite obvious to me that you have not read through the site here from day one. Everyone here wants Haleigh found and found alive…We all pray for her return. We really do care, and for you to come here and judge others for simply disscussing the case in an attempt to find our missing angel, well lets just repeat your words and the words of Jesus…”Let he who is without sin , cast the first stone”.
Actually i just talk like i would if you were here in my apt! sheeeeeesh! LoL
TY FlMom…….I would be to nervous!lol
They act like we are cult leaders!
I didn’t know they had a funeral home friend? Just curios now,lol
Satsuma must be a small place? Everybody knows everybody or is kin to everybody,LoL
It’s like,hey thats my brothers cousins girlfriends sisters aunts husbands mothers brothers uncles wifes sister! blahhhhh
We discussed it about 3 months ago, it all seemed to be rumors again. There was never proof that the animal cremitorium was even still in business at the time. Like everything in this case some just bring up some rumors and it lights fires. jmo
Cathyjoe broke her toe,
on a flying can of beans.
she cussed and swore,
and blamed the floor,
and threw the can
right out the door,
and swore off beans for evermore….
I keep hearing that Misty says she still loves Ron but I dont know what video has that can someone tell me where its at? jmo
methinks, better than beans, beans the musical fruit,……. toot.lol jmo
You got that right,and it just falls right on the very edge of your toe,sssssssss where it hurts the worst!
I haven’t heard that one Tobias?? Hmm
Kinda’ makes ya’ wanna’ slap people eh cathy?
Tho i was prolly screaming when she said it,LoL
Cathy, You lucked out I broke my big toe nail once the same way….. I feel your pain. jmo
m/15spooks are you lurking??
It sure does,That ain’t no joke Me!
Times like that makes me wanna be near Cindy!
It may be just a toe but i’d rather have my head chopped off at the time!
Atleast I’d lose 40 lbs of ugly fat!
dear God, not on a lousy can of beans…I could get past it if it was a can of chocolite!!!you poor dear, I’d beat the pi$$ outa’ that can!!!
ROFL!!! Yea a can of beans!
CathyJo63 said,in March 6th, 2010 at 1:55 pm Atleast I’d lose 40 lbs of ugly fat!
Please don’t lose it around me…I’m always the one to find it!!
/me waits to see who comes to the door to scream next!
Shoot,i wish somebodyd give me some,I hate being a walking xray!
chuckle
plenty of fattinin on my face tho,LoL
yA KNOW,IT GETS ME THAT IF I TOOK SOMEONES LIFE THERES NO WAY IN HELLO THAT I COULD EVEN LIVE WITH IT,THEN YOU SEE CASEYS AND ALL THESE OTHERS,IT MAKES YA WONDER!
Didn’t mean to yell tho!
I mean if i did it accidently,i’d lose my marbles,whats left of em anyway!
Earlier someone touched, yet again on rons activities on the big party weekend…have we learned anything? Why would that be a big secret unless ??? I just kind of wonder about what may have happened in the wee hours of sunday when r and m were aledgedly talking? were they discussing their relationship or getting a story together? just a thought. I rewatched that gretta van whats her name interview with r and m and man was he coaching her on her answers!
Hi, Beautiful; we’ve only had to debride using a chlorhexidine flush; the smaller one was about the size of a dime, and it healed quick in a couple weeks. The stage four has been over a month now but it is no longer open to the muscle; it is almost healed, to look at it, but seems to be taking forever to close – was larger than a quarter, but the opening now is only about a quarter inch wide, and new growth is all the way up to the level of surrounding skin.
Very kind of you to ask; thank-you Beautiful. You made a difference – a good one – in my day.
Shux Jason,thought you called me beautiful,j/k heya tho!
Oh yea Me,when he told her to look at the cam!
cathyjoe, just be careful, marbles on the floor can be as deadly as falling cans of beans…. refugee legos also can cause severe damage when stepped on unexpectedly! easy girl!
I am sorry Jason about what was said,I didn’t say it but still sorry!!
Ouch,yea and army men,an inch tall!
Jason, you are fighting a very difficult battle to keep this under control…I used to practice geriatric nursing in my younger days and I completely understand your fight. especially when it’s a loved one. Bless you and your care!
Adams,are you still here?
My little man will be here shortly,spending the night wiff granny!
CathyJo,
No worries,everything is OK; you weren’t at all inconsiderate – just funny (lost your marbles, I identify with )!
I know firsthand what its like to take care of someone who can no longer do it themselves,but never had to dealt with what Jason is now!
I sat with a 97 yr old lady in ky and her son was a very abusive drunk to her,he must’ve done terrible things to her but she’d stand in the corner crying and hollering help,OMG and he was no where around,I never met him,TG!But one night she grabbed a butcher knife on me,thought i was him!
cathyjoe, damn girl…you gots some stories!
your heart just breaks!
Me,thats just a tip,for yrs my daughter,tho she nows me well,but i’d tell her things and she’d be like NO WAY MOM! Then somebody would bring it up and he jawl would just drop!
Thats why i make certain ppl know me before i even go there!!!!!!! Me!
Have me locked up.lol
back on the subject of haleigh, I think I’m back to thinkin’ maybe ron might have knowledge on what happened and maybe covering due to fear of losing Jr…or they may be covering for each other…. revisiting some old interviews….just cranks my curiosity… tommorrow I may feel different again… I just can’t grab a theory and run with it…too risky.
I have trouble knowing how i fit all that into 40 yrs!! lol
but now Me,I feel almost like it wasn’t me,if that makes sense!
I just can’t imagine why though,But i have thought of the tattoo aftrer the divorce and it makes ya wonder!
Are you forty cathy? somehow I pegged you for more fiftyish like me….okay fiftyoneish…damn I can’t lie for nothin today!
Sorry, had to leave after making such a statement about the funeral home..no, it wasn’t an animal crematory, but a regular funeral home in that town and supposedly the owner/worker there was friends with R. Again, I am sorry I don’t have any more info as I read it on another site before I found this one. And yes..there are so many rumors out there I hated to bring it up and since you all are so good at this I was sure you had already covered it.
I sincerely hope HaLeith is found and she is ok! If someone took her for her “own good” they would get a pass from me. That smile is so sweet and tugs at my heart!
47husband passed when i was 40,I have done much of nothing since he’s gone Me! so thats why i say it like that!
flmom, I think awhile back it was discussed by some. and your right…she has a beautiful smile…I can see why she is a daddys girl! which is why I queston mistys involvment….jealousy can make people do bad things…especially when your just a kid yourself and insecure!
Just watched the Wesh 2 news video of Misty saying Rob was her first love but Ron was the one and she still loves him. And thanks Amber. I assume she meant for not taking Haleigh to the bus stop when she met Ron? This girl is just plain nuts. She needs to wake up from her fantasy. jmo
Fl,Thats one i hadn’t heard!!
She told Hank she’d never get married again!
So true..don’t know how anyone could hurt such innocence. Jealousy is a disease and ruins many lives. So sorry I didn’t spell HaLeigh’s name right.
Tobias, do you think misty might be covering for ron? or vice versa? or together?
Me,thats why i think if Misty did,i just can’t help but think she got caught by Haleigh and had to keep it hid no matter what!
oops,posted to fast!
Thats why i think the blankets had another mans dna!
IF misty did!
whatever it is,those blankets play a very big part IMO!
methinks,
Thanks; you’re right – it is a fight, a constant vigilance. I’ve upped his protein with Soy milk, and added flax-seed, wheat germ, carrots, and supplements of ester C, vitamins A & E, at the same time – in hopes of making his skin healthier to help prevent them from even starting.
This has been a nightmare; now my eyes are open to a sad reality for so many elderly people, and it just amazes me that I’ve managed to live to middle-age without having the slightest comprehension of it.
You learned about the end of life at a young age, methinks; was it hard for you to deal with emotionally at the time?
I go back to the first interview Ron made with Dana Treen after his arrest and how he talked about Misty and the tattoo. And his girlfriend.
Misty has the impression that they are in love and Ron seems to be playing both sides . Ron in the public eye and Ron when he is with Misty, very suspisous behavior. jmo
Does anyone know who Rob is? Bet he is thanking his lucky stars he got rid of Misty.jmo
I have tried to keep up with this without getting my heart involved..you know? So I have read and not retained. Too late now.
What if..R was aware of M.’s weekend as it was happening and that was when he made his trip to see the mexican who was supposedly with M..? just wandering
My little mans here,Gotta run,bbl tonight if he goes out early,lol
You guys have a gr888 chat and a better day!!
Hugs to you Jason! And everybody,can’t leave yall out,I just know some of what he’s dealing with!!Can’t imagine the rest!
Jason, I started out working as a nursing assistant at age 16, and went to nursing school in my late thirties….I saw alot of residents with horrible bed sores….It’s very sad and yes it was so emotionally draining, my heart broke caring for them. I have a deep respect for caregivers such as yourself. Give yourself a big hug, you deserve it! It can be a thankless job, but giving of yourself to your loved one does not go unnoticed. Your family member knows who is there with them. A soft touch or kind word can make any heart melt. Always remember jason, caregivers need care too.
Yes, caregivers do need care, my sister took care of my parents. To me..she has angel wings!
tobias, rob must have been a child too…but yeah I bet he’s glad he isn’t around that situation…
I wonder why they broke up? rob and misty I mean.
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In the Wesh 2 news video when Misty proclaims her love for Ron I cant believe Lisas statements. I would be livid after all the trouble Misty has gotten herself into and with Haleigh going missing and Rons statements always saying he thinks she knows more. I feel Misty is and has always been obsessed with a fantacy as far as Ron is concerned.
Misty acts like there was a real love story going on. She needs to hear the 911 call My dumb biotch girlfriend…….jmo
Jamie Watts is the funeral home friend. He owns Watts Funernal Home and set up the account he for Ronald in the begining!
Satsuma is small, not even a red light, you past through on highway 17. I’ve lived here 38 years and pretty much know everyone.
I better stay off the topic of pressure sores before someone reams me out, but I need to let Karon know that after thinking about methinks working as a geriatric nurse when she was young, and dealing with pressure sores, compared to my being clueless about them until recently, her comments are understood; as they were probably just made from a perspective that pressure sores are not a major health issue.
Thank you, I was hoping someone would remember who it was.
Thanks, methinks, and CathyJo. Bye for now.
CathyJo63 said,
in March 6th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
She told Hank she’d never get married again
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Unless she gets off these drug charges she won’t have to worry about that for a looooong time. Unless she finds her some big Bertha in prison that rocks her boat 😀
Maybe Rob was the one she took off to New Jersey with? Since her myspace was shut down its hard to remember who the guys were on it. I do remember that she wrote to J.Miller after he was in prison, and I think there were other pics of boyfriends and one with cousin Brandon Overstreet. jmo
Oh my Jason, please don’t think I’m undermining the severity of bedsores. They can be very serious! and yes, even life threatning! I apologize if you thought I was saying they were’nt important! I’m very sorry!
Krissy, I don’t know how close Satsum is to Welatka (?) but we stayed at an rv park there a couple times, right on the river.
Also, you being from that area I am sure you have a theory about what happened to HaLeigh, would you care to share?
Hey Gang!!
I slipped out… my sister’s birthday is today, and she has all kinds of demands…. I just had to recite Tallulah Bankhead’s sordid private life to her, after telling her all about Montgomery Clift. She’s still hounding me for pop culture!!!
Jason,… Methinks is right, caretakers must take time to care for themselves!!
Wishing you and your patient wellness!!!!
I wished someone would interview Amber for her thought on Ron and Misty love affair. Bet she could tell very interesting insights into their personalities. jmo
methinks said,
in March 6th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Oh my Jason, please don’t think I’m undermining the severity of bedsores. They can be very serious! and yes, even life threatning! I apologize if you thought I was saying they were’nt important! I’m very sorry!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t think was saying you were making lite… no not at all… I think he was comparing his less known knowledge of them prior to caring for a loved one with them.
Hope I got it right Jason and MeThinks!
Tobias…. yes Amber!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jason:
I am sorry that I came across wrong to you. I thought you were just kidding with us, and I was kidding with you. You are always teasing us, and I thought you were this time, too.
You didn’t expect that kind of snide remark from me, because I didn’t mean it to be snide. I was not thinking seriously about you and a patient, at all. I was just playing, and I thought you were just playing. It was getting really late, and I was very sleepy. I tend to like you, Jason. That is why I defended you.
Krissy…. what is the talk of the town…. if you don’t mind dishing… pleazzzze!!!
Misty sounds like a fatal attraction when she says she still loves Ron. Someone send her Rons tape talking to that thug hugger maybe she will wake up and talk. jmo
m15/spookscent thanks for having my back! I truely didn’t mean to make jason feel that way. God I feel like a piece of shit. Sometimes I just piss me off…. I’m in tears and anyway…whatever I guess I should have just continued lurking and not offered my thoughts. WOW! I’ll go back to lurking….sometimes people just don’t want to feel better or accept a kind word. I feel like shit.
Krissy come back please.
Tobias, I just love the way you carry on in the middle of a meltdown! Your awesome that way!
No Methinks… I believe Jason was giving you a compliment on you obtaining the knowledge of Geriatric Care at such a young age!! The way I took it was that he never had to deal with this sort of thing, or their existence prior, therefore he can understand Karon’s “naive” comments.
Karon… me using “naive” is not against you, just trying to explain Jason’s feelings to Methinks!!! And I felt your comments were NOT malicious towards Jason… You never are mean… I think it all just got crossed!!
I try not to get too involved in others discussions unless I see someone getting picked on without reason. I was just so mad about Mistys statement of LOVE.
I believe LE needs a better angle, like make them hate each other enough to turn on each other. jmo
cent, your right. It can be very stressful caring for an ailing family member, I hope Jason understands that nobody here would undermine his feelings…I know I certainly wouldn’t.
I don’t like my use of “naive”… Now I think I shall commence into lurk mode!!!!
Tobias, I agree, It seems misty still thinks ron loves her even after lisa told her what he said about his other girlfriend. weird huh?
Krissy you may have forgot, but there is a red light on hwy 17 and 309. It right in front of the new mobile home annex for the Sheriff Dept , where the old realty company was.. You can see where the Haleighbug center was and the big billboard of Haleigh that now stands where the center use to be.
Methinks, She doesnt know about the thug hugger though.. I think Ron told her he was playing with the media all along, even when he went on NG and said he thinks she knows more.
He plays with Mistys emotions and it may have been what caused this whole case. jmo
Things sound different in writing, you can’t see the persons expression or hear the sound in their voice. That’s why I mostly “lurk”. I wouldn’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings for anything and..heaven help the one who hurts mine..lol
Jason:
I do understand the severity of those kinds of sores, and I admire you for what you are doing. Having been in on some care-taking, myself, I know what you are going thru. It is draining and very serious. I have, also, been very ill myself(I am much better now), but I know something of what your patient is going thru. There is nothing funny about it. I apologize again.
cent, get back here! if I gotta’ chew fat,,then you can help! chuckle…it’s all good. I’ve apologized and so did karen, I hope thats enough. jason is going through some serious emotions, and if he needs to talk, I will make myself available… I really do care and understand…so does karon I expect.
Tobias… I believe he has done just that. I think R has toyed with that girl on so many levels… she can’t/won’t see straight!!
LFJ, Where is Dunn Creek bridge is it far from town? Is there water underneath or just land?
The reason I ask is because that bridge always bothered me. jmo
Methinks…. I just think it was a misunderstanding… and I think Jason will/does understand.
Yes, ron has treated misty like a little dumb bitch girlfriend so often its quite possible she has taught him that it’s time to show her alittle respect!
Tobias, It is approx 2 miles up from 309. There is water and land underneath.
zzzzzzapppppp…. I have now used my secret amnesia, ray-blasting pistol!!! (((chant 2x))) All is forgotten… All is forgotten.
Funny question but here goes does Ron have one girlfriend that says anything nice about him besides Misty?jmo
Is this the same bridge where that rso was living under?/
Jason, glad to hear your loved one is improving. I know how heartbreaking it is to see a loved one suffer like that.
CathyJo….years ago I smashed/broke a toe by dropping a wine bottle on it when I was trying to open it! OUCH!
Does anyone know if we are getting our radio show this week? I sure hope so.
Crystal did… remember!!!! He loved his children, he was a good father, etc… And I suspect that Crystal could have said a lot more unkind things than she did.
forgotten what? oh wait…did you zap me too?? yikes I think my hair on my legs just got curled…pink panther retreats under the desk to lick her wounds…
Yes, but the article doesnt say anything about whats under the bridge. I saw a picture of the top of it, it has no lights on it.. jmo
The next time I am over that way. I am going to look to see if there is an access road that lets you drive to it and go underneath. The old bridge may still be there, not sure after all this time.
New article about the radio show is up!!
me, yes there is a new article up!
cent jinx you owe me a coke!
I’m drinking one now!!! heee heee!!
I got drpepper! mmmm my fave!
Hello eveyone, how are you all doing?
Hey looking…. I’s fine and you?
me, regarding the wine bottle on the toe trick….see i guess you don’t need to drink it to get in trouble…. shit’ll kill ya’! God I miss it so bad sometimes!!!
I am doing well. I checked in last night and saw all He** braking loose and decided to escape it.
And i’m eating boiled peanuts..when I get on here..gotta have a snack!
hi looking for justice!
Very much understood LFJ!!
I believe DB is one of the good guys. She was working with LE as a private citizen and did not get it right. I hope she can still help LE and not be considered as having any criminal intent. She has never been in any kind of trouble before, ever, and certainly does not deserve 25 years for selling 100whatever pills one time. Give me a break!
Jason,
I can sooo relate to what you are talking about. I felt as though I’d lived a charmed life until about 5 1/2 years ago, then my life took a total turn, watching my loved ones die one after another. It has changed me forever….my outlook on life, my own fear of dying, and the pain from the memories of watching loved ones suffer. It’s been a few years now, and I’m learning how to live with the pain….it’s not at all easy….I wish I could say it was. The world is not always a happy place, so I just try to make the best of the days I have. Life can seem so unfair. Hang in there….I’m sure your loved one so appreciates what you are doing for them, and you will find comfort in that in time. Sorry you are going through this.
Hi methinks! How is it going?
Did Cathy and Tobias leave?
Yep yaknow it’s getting bad when Jan has to crawl out of her nice warm bed to intervene! She’s prolly sleepin’ now poor thing!
lfj, I’m doin’ good, sso far today, I’ve hurt feelings, cried, apologized, cried some more, got over it and now I’m movin’ on!
((((cathy))))…..((((Tobias))))????
Yeah, I saw that. I love HollyG. She is such an insightful woman. I felt for her. I noticed Cent asked her to ignore, but sometimes it is hard to look the other way.
Any body remember that Brady Bunch episode…. when Cindy and Bobby got lost in the Grand Canyon???
Looking… yes it is hard to look the other way… I am a prime example of someone that doesn’t do it all the time!!
cent, cathy is off with her grandson, and tobias is…is …is..tobias? where did you go? tobias…oh well, she’ll be back!
Lets think about DB being a good guy..ya think?
A little hard to imagine when she was involved at the time they got caught. IMO
Yes, lets ponder that for a moment….nope good guys don’t sell drugs and give drugs to 17 year old children in an attempt to extract info…. yesterday I wondered, but have since changed my thoughts on her good guy self proclaimation…oops is that a word?
Thanks Methink @3:53
I don’t believe DB to be a “good guy”… I know people have knocked my thought of her being on the scene somehow/someway prior to Feb of last year! But, I still say it’s possible and a damn good cover!!
Ya but, she is still in jail and under bond. Would they do their UC that way? just askin’
heck no! she’s as guilty as the rest of em’…thats why she is where she is…imo
my thoughts exactly.
My sister seems to think that an informant/LE helper would go the distance and stay locked up… for show!! Well… I think, what would the helper be getting/gaining by voluntarily giving up their freedom?
I think she may have started out on the right track but somewhere she had to become alittle more “naughty” in order to keep her cover…you know…start taking pills to look the part. It may have just caught up with her…sad, but she could have pulled back before she became addicted and found herself in as deep as she got..again jmo
Hey cent, I was not ignoring you. I was in the middle of telling you I noticed that it was hard for to look the other way sometimes and my granddaughter shut me down. I had to wait for the computer to shut down and re-boot.
But this is the same sister that called that Orca/killer whale in Florida a REPTILE!!
LoL… heeeee heeeee!!!
Donna wanted her moment of fame, findind info from Misty or Ron and she would be loved and admired by all. Just didnt work out that way.
She went totally overboard with the drugs and well now you are infamous sorry DB if its not the fame you wanted but you will be one of the Satsuma 5 forever. jmo
Tobias I agree. Donna got famous alright, but not in the way she wanted.
TOBIAS! there you are…wewere gonna’ send out the troops to find you…did you bring us any new nuggs to chew on?
Seriously… am I the only one that thinks DB and TM look-a-like?
Donnas arrogance got her in this situation. You may be tuff but guess what the drugs are always tuffer. hard lesson to learn late!
cent wow never notced but yeah they do alittle…his love child? chuckle
BAC, I think its just all the wrinkles.lol jmo
Satsuma is less than 5 miles to Welaka. Not sure what happened, my friends here seem to lean towards gators, since thee is no trace1!!
She thought that no matter what she did, she had immunity,…but quess what… she became too much of a hot potatoe for tm and his crew.
would she be willing to wear chains for show? I would if it brought HaLeigh home but DB is gonna go before the judge!
Krissy, any talk of where Misty was that night?
Krissy, absolutely, if she were thrown into the elements..the gators ate the evidence….the scary part is, did the killer know this would happen and this is why no worries?
Does anyone know whether Misty truely has no criminal back ground? Most files for underaged criminals are sealed arent they? And if she does are they allowed to be opened now that she is 18? Just asking if anyone has legal experience on this. jmo
Thanks Krissy..what a sad thought! Living in the area I am sure there have been a lot of theories going around. It’s the not knowing and the silence…!
good queston tobias! krissy, do you know of naynay and that bunch of people?
Looking For Justice…………. Your right sorry I was thing about Pomaona Park with the flashing light. Thank you!
well floks, I better go for awhile, the ol’ man is watchin’ nascar and this is my opportunity to sneak out and visit friends without him….mean ain’t I?
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It is alright Krissy, because that light was put up last year. It has not been there that long. Krissy I know every person I talk to in Satsuma and Palatka the believe all points to Misty and Ron. Are you hearing the same?
and I thought I was the only one that did that..lol
Krissy do you know anything about the pdm bridge company and why they are telling employees not to talk to the media? jmo
Why does DB hate TM and vice-versa. I wonder what the real deal was.
I wonder if Misty would be so in love with Ron if she knew he was talking to the thug hugger girl from Ill.? She even sent him a picture of her and her stafordshire terrier.(staffi)
Maybe MAMA needs to clue her in on old Ronnie using her, I bet PAPA will if she tells him she loves Ron. jmo
I don’t know Nay Nay, she is much younger but know her relatives. Just a few nights before Misty was arrested she was over my friends daughters house in Crescent City. Ronald and Misty used to visit her brother alot in Lake Como. on never trusted Misty cuase he told him him he didn’t need a “nanny spy cam” he had Haleigh!!!!
Rob was Misty’s old boyfriend from New Jersey,in case someone hadn’t posted that already.There were some pics in a site Misty had a long time ago w/pics of him,Chelsea,her kids,Misty and Chelsea’s little brother who lives in Mass.They were at an amusement park,don’t have link to site anymore,but remember seeing the pics on Chelsea’s myspace at beg.also,before it went private.
OMG, I was gonna’ leave…thoought I’d check back and…welll OMG tell us more krissy… You have everyones attention I garrentee it!!!!
Krissy, are you still here?
nanny spy cam? haLeigh? as the plot thickens!
krissy??
Krissy, What do you know about Amber Brooks?
What happened at the party when Misty and Amber got into it? Surely there are rumors going aroung town about them hating each other. jmo
I always thought my kids would tell on their Dad if he was up to something too. Kids told me once when he went through a yellow light in the car. lol jmo
haLeigh spy cam…hmmm kinda’ plays into the theory that Haleigh may have walked in on something doesn’t it???
Now i really see where LE are sure misty holds the key. makes alot more sense now..imo
Haleigh told everything, so per Ronald. I think she may have saw something as well!!!
I wonder if ron used to queston haleigh when he got home….if so this may have contributed to her demise. If he questoned her in front of misty, she may have felt there was no other way to silence her other than to just get rid of her…and if HaLeigh used to snitch misty out on little things…this may have pi$$ed misty off enough to send her over the edge! a child competing with a child, so to speak.
I feel if Ron was so worried and jealous why would he call 20 times and call Tommy and not leave work? And if he trusted Haleigh to tell on Misty , she would know not to do anything when the kids were there. Nay Nay even said she knew not to go there that Ron didnt like her.jmo
All I can say is WOW! this is big!
Kids do tell!
Well I have to cook dinner. I will check back in soon.
Welcome Krissy
I meant to say welcome to BNN blog Krissy. Nice to have you.
I better run too bbl! krissy, I hope you stay with us…your a wealth of information…even without your inside stuff, your thoughts and opinions are always welcome here!
Little girls that age are little mommys and will speak up and tell what they know usually,especially being the oldest.That’s one of the things I’ve been worried about,if Misty was angry at RC,turned her phone off and what happened after that is a mystery.But,an over tired teen,that’s been arguing all night,the night before and then again that night,rumored to not wanting to be there and we know how she felt about having to be with the kids on the night of her 17th birthday.
methinks….just a word of caution…we have no idea who krissy is….for all we know she lives in India and doesn’t know anyone involved in this case. I am very skeptical of people who jump onto the blogs with salacious gossip….many aren’t who they pretend to be.
I dont see Misty having male friends over. She is too into Ron and getting married and living happily ever after. If Haleigh ever opposed Misty it was in hopes that her parents would reunite. Little girls of divorced parents always hope for this. Also Haleigh was more than likely jealous of Misty taking her daddy away from her too. jmo
winterrose, yes, I think thats true of most 5 or 6 year olds…they need to learn the difference between telling and tattling…telling is important, while tattling isn’t. my six year old grandson is learning this day by day…haLeigh may have been going through the tattling stage, while misty never matured past it!
me, while what your saying is true, it is also not right to chase away someone who may be above the board..so to speak. Lets just give her a chance…
tobias…I agree with you re Misty having male friends over. Plus, Jr would have been more than capable of telling LE of any visitors to the home that night, and so far, all LE are saying is that they think she was out of the house and want info re her whereabouts….nothing about wanting info about visitors to the home.
Methinks, You are right and I am sure we can just hear her out whether we believe her or not. jmo
me, is there anyway to prove who she is? I mean if we haven’t offended her to the point of not coming back?
methinks….MOO is fresh in my mind! And there have been so many others like her. Perhaps if krissy sends someone here an email, her ip address can be checked to see if she really lives where she claims to live. I have seen people say ridiculous things about some of the players in this case, posing as locals “in the know”….most aren’t. Sorry, but I’m very skeptical about those sorts of posts.
tobias, you can bet your sox that HaLeigh was jeolous of misty and vice versa… I bet ron had his hands full with these two telling on each other for trivial shi..
me, then how can we find out? I’m not saying your wrong, you have every reason to be skeptical, however, to accuse her without checking the facts is rather mean imo
I would hope everyone on here does know what one blogger says to another is rumor or theory with out facts and doesnt need to be chastized for wanting someones take on things even if it isnt fact. jmo
methinks…can’t see how she could have been offended…she got a very warm welcome from you guys. She might be another fly by (we’ve been getting a few of those lately), or perhaps she’ll be back. Her ip address gives her location. That would be available to Jan, but not to us unless we get an email from her.
so perhaps Jan can set us straight…although I doubt that she would, since so far Krissy has done absolutely nothing wrong. If Krissy is who she says she is…then would you be happy?
I guess all we can do is wait… Krissy, if your reading, please help us ID you. There really have been problems with people posting nonsense. I hope you do set us all straight and understand where the problem is. I’m on your team! Please don’t let me down LOL
Me, if you are right, I will be the very first to apologize since I’m not as experienced at this as you are…really no offense to you at all.
I just hate being wrong dang it! LOL
I have a feeling Haleigh stood in the way of Mistys plans to wed Ron and have more babies.
Maybe not in the beginning but once Misty had to discipline Haleigh she became the enemy and Misty and Ron were fighting. Haleigh has seen alot of this because of Amber and Crystals involvement with Ron. That MH was not a happy place in the days before she went missing. jmo
methinks…I have no idea what you mean when you say “then would you be happy?”. Whatever…if you guys want to blindly believe every person who posts on here claiming to know what is going on at PCSO or claiming to have heard gossip about the players, that’s your choice. I was just pointing out that this person might not who she says she is. Your choice whether you believe her or not….but personally, I wouldn’t be so eager to believe every stranger who posts here claiming to be in the know. I didn’t fall for MOO for a second, and am very skeptical of all who come on here claiming to be privy to gossip. I’m a facts person…don’t care much for salacious and malicious gossip.
tobias, yes, very toxic place to be sure.
I wonder if Ron being so much older than Misty sets them up to have a father-daughter relationship. Misty acts out and it’s Ron’s job to straighten her out. Misty does sneaky things behind Ron’s back because she resents being controlled, ans so it goes, over and over. Ron gets crazy and beats someone up over the whole sick situation.
When Misty gets it thru her head that she is going to prison, and her relationship with Ron is over, she may talk.
me, refer back to my 5:21 post. thank you
There’s no such thing as a flyby,everyone has a right to post on an article when their reading up on the case.No reason for people to have thier feelings hurt if they are new and post an opinion the majority doesn’t like,unless thier being rude.Everyone has a right to thier opinion.These are articles not a forum board,who knows who anyone is,you put a username.Noone knows if a person is using different nics as usernames or who anyone is,anyway.And the nasty remarks are getting old,just about every article someone is getting thier feelings hurt,because of smarta.. remarks.
Karon, Thats what I think too. I f her fantasy is broken she may roll on him. jmo
karon thats very true, I can see ron being the one in charge…which misty hated…I would bet. so any positive attention Haleigh received from ron would be viewed as a threat to misty.
THANK YOU WINTER ROSE!
What clued me in on the rivalry was Misty talking about when Ron bought her something Haleigh wanted one too. Haleigh was jealous.jmo
The pink tennis shoes if I am remembering correctly.jmo
WinterRose….posting an opinion is one thing, and I agree everyone can do that. Stating you are a local and KNOW certain things as facts is different to stating an opinion.
As for fly bys, we actually have had a few this week…..they make a few posts, stir things up and disappear.
Anyhow, I’ll bbl. I think it’s ridiculous I am being attacked over this and don’t want to cause Jan any headaches.
That would be typical when the kids have had different women as mothers in the home,the oldest child would start to be protective over the home and any other kids.Mainly because she couldn’t depend on the women that had been in an out of the home staying with them.
Karon Cox said,in March 6th, 2010 at 5:23 pm I wonder if Ron being so much older than Misty sets them up to have a father-daughter relationship. Misty acts out and it’s Ron’s job to straighten her out. Misty does sneaky things behind Ron’s back because she resents being controlled, ans so it goes, over and over. Ron gets crazy and beats someone up over the whole sick situation.
When Misty gets it thru her head that she is going to prison, and her relationship with Ron is over, she may talk.
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I think you may very well be right with everything you just posted and Misty knows alot of chit on that family. Ron thru her thru a closet door at GGMS and she know how badly TN talked to JR, I bet she has heard and seen alot that she prolly thinks is irrelevant, but if she were to tell LE those little tidbits, then maybe they could start piecing more info together. I do know for a fact drunks/druggies can have black outs, so I wonder if she slept thru that night possibly and TN picked up the kids after Ron couldn’t get thru to her after 20-90 calls, what of HaLeigh died on TN’s watch, say overdosing on GGMS pain patches (they look like those fake tattoos that kids use), then TN would have to tell Rc what happenend, and that if they told the truth, custody of JR would be at jeapordy so RC went along with the coverup. Just tossing new ideas arounf after some new info I have learned about the Cummings/Neves/Sykes side of the family from those that tried to help initially and then became disgusted by what they heard and/or observed. One example was how badly TN talked to Jr, she had no patience with him from what I was told.
It’s the same when mothers bring in stepdads for little boys…suddenly they are not the man of the family …taking care of mom in a sense.
I have not been offended by Krissy’s claims…. but I also have NOT read anything from her that suggests that we ARE getting anything NEW. Whether it is gossip or fact, she has not posted anything that has NOT been said by Nay-Nay, Art, or anyone else for that matter!!!
I could be wrong… but, I see no issue with her posting… give her a chance!
**Anyways, I’ll decide what I’ll believe… always.**
And something in the way she talked about that morning when they took Haleigh to get the outfit she wanted to wear. All the way to Walatka….. just my impression was most of us have dealt with this situation. I once had to blow dry white pantyhose for a 6 year old(years ago) because she wouldnt wear anklets too school. I remember the arguement like yesterday, but this was my child and I was 35 years old. jmo
I don’t really think HaLeigh was jealous of Misty… I think it was the other way around, and I’m sure Misty held some serious resentment towards the baby’s Mama!! Especially if she wanted a child of her own!
justone, wow yeah, those pain patches can be deadly. I think there is even a class action law suit on the phentinal patches since all you have to do is handle them and the medicine can absorb into your skin. Do we know if gmasykes had patches? I know she had morfine pills prescribed…but I’ve never heard of her having those patches.
Yep,the same with boys in a home.We’ve also had a year of rumors and have to decide what we feel fits with anything we know as fact.And frankly,that’s not a heck of alot.LOL I would like to hear what any locals say.I can decide for myself,any board,show or twitter we hear things and most of what we hear we’ll have to wait for sunshine laws and trial to see what’s been true or not anyway.
methinks said,in March 6th, 2010 at 5:39 pm justone, wow yeah, those pain patches can be deadly. I think there is even a class action law suit on the phentinal patches since all you have to do is handle them and the medicine can absorb into your skin. Do we know if gmasykes had patches? I know she had morfine pills prescribed…but I’ve never heard of her having those patches.
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Yes on both! There is a class action lawsuit and I spoke to someone who witnessed GGMS apply them, and she also mentioned that HaLeigh loved anything like a fake tattoo, remember some of her pic’s show her with those fake press on tattoos……
I just thought of a conversation Misty had with Hank about not getting married and being done with men. She says one thing to her Dad and another for us(sheknows we are watching) and her Mom. Why would she want us to believe she still loves Ron? Could it be so we wouldnt think she could hurt him? jmo bbl
justone,then by all means, HaLeigh could have gotten into them. She didn’t have to get itfrom tm or gsykes either…remember misty told crystal (who had exerpts from myspace from misty she showed the judge)anyway misty told crystal that ron was shooting gsykes morfine pills….those patches go from $25.00 to $100.00 on the street depending on the mg. Just for the record, I learned that in treatment. very addictive and widely abused…they can by put on as a patch and I’ve even heard of them being smoked on tin foil. She may have found one that ron stole from gsykes….
justone, even an old one laying around or in the trash can have enough medicine left on it to kill a child.
especially a child with respiratory problems to begin with!
justone, my 5:52 post should have read tn not tm.
methinks said,in March 6th, 2010 at 5:52 pm justone,then by all means, HaLeigh could have gotten into them. She didn’t have to get itfrom tm or gsykes either…remember misty told crystal (who had exerpts from myspace from misty she showed the judge)anyway misty told crystal that ron was shooting gsykes morfine pills….those patches go from $25.00 to $100.00 on the street depending on the mg. Just for the record, I learned that in treatment. very addictive and widely abused…they can by put on as a patch and I’ve even heard of them being smoked on tin foil. She may have found one that ron stole from gsykes….
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exactly, I just don’t think Ron would have covered for Misty had she been soley responsible, in fact I think she’d be dead by now, so WHO would he cover for other than himself if HeLeigh died accidentally……..TN is my first guess. He had coached Misty in the GVS interview, WHY? It only makes sense that if he thought she was responsible, he would want the maximum pressure exerted on her to get her to break, it has to be she was given a script to follow and has trouble with follow up Q’s because they weren’t part of the original script regarding the cover up.
methinks said,in March 6th, 2010 at 5:57 pm justone, my 5:52 post should have read tn not tm.
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I know! I just rewatched that interview this am, and was once again floored at how obvious it was that he was coaching and getting agrivated with her cuz she couldn’t decide how far away the bed was! wow.
methinks said,in March 6th, 2010 at 5:59 pm I know! I just rewatched that interview this am, and was once again floored at how obvious it was that he was coaching and getting agrivated with her cuz she couldn’t decide how far away the bed was! wow.
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I know, that interview blew me away with his actions, and also he mentioned the door was forced open and it had marks to show that (paraphrasing), but LE stated there was NO sign of forced entry, and in the same interview he says they were all three in the same bed. Really odd that he would know that since he “wuz at werk”
Also, I have spoken with people who have been on those patches and they are VERY powerful! If misty had used one any time in the previous twentyfour hours…she could haveslept through a nuclear disaster and not woke up.. what if she did and took it off after a while and threw it on the bedside table, HaLeigh could have picked it up thinking it was a tattoo and the rest is history.
Yes, Lets not ever forget, He wuz at werk!!!
I sure hope we are wrong about the patches. Poor gsykes wouldn’t be able to live with herself, especially if he didn’t steal it. She may have given it to him cuz he wuz in pain from werking so hard.
m15/spookscent, are you lurking???
methinks said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:09 pm I sure hope we are wrong about the patches. Poor gsykes wouldn’t be able to live with herself, especially if he didn’t steal it. She may have given it to him cuz he wuz in pain from werking so hard.
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I do too, just tossing out theories and it could fit and also Ron would cover for TN or GGMS because of custody issues. I think they are the type of family that feels what’s done is done and no reason to get everyone in trouble over an accident. From what I was told, I’m very disgusted from TN and GGMS attitude and lies, they knew he threw Misty thru a door and did nothing to stop it, and they told my contact that he was abusive to Crystal but justify it in their own minds, anything for thier “hard werking Ron” LMAO at his pain from werking, only thing that boy werked hard at was bedding teens and getting ahold of drugs to get high.
methinks said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:09 pm I sure hope we are wrong about the patches. Poor gsykes wouldn’t be able to live with herself, especially if he didn’t steal it. She may have given it to him cuz he wuz in pain from werking so hard.
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Also know that TN has Misty’s phone and camera, she got the info from TN’s twitter before it was deleted
justone, Bravo! well said!
Oh really, very interesting! She must have gotten it from the cousin or what?
I guess I forgot who had the phone…or whos car it was left in…
Just one,
Misty’s purse was in her lap in the UC car when she was arrested,wouldn’t the phone and camera have been in there?Just asking,I don’t know anything except she thought Katrina had her purse and such.But,we did see the purse in her lap.Do you know Katrina had her phone and camera?
I also wondered if it was really mistys camara or haleighs.
alot of druggie chicks carry more than one purse…one for drugs and one for show..
tn is really beginning to sound like another mother we know…backstabbin’, coverup, cindy…is it just me?
methinks!!!How would you know that?LOL Just kidding.
methinks said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:22 pm alot of druggie chicks carry more than one purse…one for drugs and one for show..
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I THINK she could have dumped the contents of her purse in Ron’s aunt Katrina’s car, in order to put the 200 pills in her purse. Just a theory though
I think misty was carrying an overnight bag due to spening nights with ron…maybe she meant her phone and camara were in her overnight bag which was left in katrinas car… and why did katrina take off so quick…did she know what was going to happen? did tn?
I was actually wondering if that purse left in UC car was one Lisa stoled in December and something in it showed who it belonged along with description of it.Misty could have rolled on her mother.LOL That was just a thought,couldn’t figure out why they’d wait till now to arrest Lisa for a December theft.
methinks said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:26 pm tn is really beginning to sound like another mother we know…backstabbin’, coverup, cindy…is it just me?
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Absolutely not just you, I’ve thought that since the beginning and still do, remember the phrase “why lose another one”, makes my mind wonder after watching her in action for the past 13 months and learning new info. Seesm the entire family took a page from the A’s, don’t look at me and or my child, focus on the missing grandbaby, when all have to be looked at considering the circumstance. Everyone that has ever had a missing child has experienced it, family has to be ruled out first, and that attitude just is very fishy and suspicous to me.
winterrose, you mean about the druggie chicks? I used to be one many moons ago… I like to refer to it as “the dark years” mostly cuz’ I can’t remember much of it! but yes…your methinks has a sordid past, I’m afraid! I would however like to put the emphasis on PAST!
Oh that is a thought,could have been a carrying bag,but did she say purse or bag?I can’t remember now.When she had the jacket on she was carrying the phone in her pocket,so she could have left it in the car.If she was just going to get in and do the deal and get back out,but it just seems like in the other videos she was using it for the deals to make the contacts.
WinterRose said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:20 pm Just one,
Misty’s purse was in her lap in the UC car when she was arrested,wouldn’t the phone and camera have been in there?Just asking,I don’t know anything except she thought Katrina had her purse and such.But,we did see the purse in her lap.Do you know Katrina had her phone and camera?
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Yes it was with her in the UC video, but as I posted above I think she may have dumped it out to fit all the pills in, and all I know is TN ended up with the phone, I assume it came from Katrina, not a huge jump to make for me.
LOL,methinks you just never know do ya? 🙂
just one said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
all I know is TN ended up with the phone
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And how do you know this?
Wouldn’t the LE have asked for the phone and camera and went to get it?I mean it would have information on it.
methinks said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:31 pm winterrose, you mean about the druggie chicks? I used to be one many moons ago… I like to refer to it as “the dark years” mostly cuz’ I can’t remember much of it! but yes…your methinks has a sordid past, I’m afraid! I would however like to put the emphasis on PAST!
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we all have a past and yours gives us valuable insight IMO. We all have things we have done and are ashamed of, but it IS the past, that’s why today is called a present aka a gift. I admire your ability to overcome it and stay clean. Bravo to you!
Oh me,just in time. 🙂
I guess I don’t understand why she would need to dump it, she didn’t know the pills would be in big bags…the pills are little. Perhaps our little misty isn’t as dumb as we think… maybe she conveniently left her phone and camara and ID in katrinas car in case she had to bail…which I think they both would have done if the opportunity were to have presented itself…you know, leave the pills, the purse, everything just run like hell! She did make the comment to the UC that “ain’t none of them got our names on em’!”
Yep,most of us have done things and wonder how in the heck,then we tell our kids not to do the same things and they usually do,duh.LOL
me said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:35 pm just one said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
all I know is TN ended up with the phone
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And how do you know this?
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She posted on her twitter page and this contact has access to her site, remember Katrina was there when the bust went down and drove off, I assume that’s why LE didn’t have it. Granted this is just what was posted on her twitter acct and she could be lying, but that’s what she posted, and TN also posted that they gave Jr a digital camera for his b-day, wonder where that came from. 3 guesses, but only 2 count LOL
That purse was big and could have been used for that purpose,you’re right about that methinks.Usually teens carry smaller purses and it did look kind of grandmothery big,from what I can remember.
methinks said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:39 pm I guess I don’t understand why she would need to dump it, she didn’t know the pills would be in big bags…the pills are little. Perhaps our little misty isn’t as dumb as we think… maybe she conveniently left her phone and camara and ID in katrinas car in case she had to bail…which I think they both would have done if the opportunity were to have presented itself…you know, leave the pills, the purse, everything just run like hell! She did make the comment to the UC that “ain’t none of them got our names on em’!”
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Just a theory, but remember when the UC told her and Ron the package of pills was huge, then he pulls out 2 paper bags and Misty takes one and so does Ron, they count them, then Misty get’s out of the car and comes back. That was my theory that she went to aunt K’s car and dumped her purse in order to put those 2 big paper bags in her purse. Just a theory though
Why thank you justone! It’s always nice to recieve that pat on the back again after so many years….my life is a treasure now without a doubt! two beautiful grandsons and a wonderful husband…Life is indeed good!
MeThinks…. I am here and there…
Anyone one remember Crystal saying or that it was reported that she had never been allowed in the MH before? And that the first time she went in there was sometime/days after that night… and Misty was there and was apologizing over and over, and saying to please believe her she had nothing to do with this. Then Crystal asked for one of HaLeigh’s toys, Misty said she would have to ask Ron first.
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Ohh yeah… Crystal collapsed in tears on HaLeigh’s mattress!!!
cent, I guess I’m not sure what your getting at
methinks said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:42 pm Why thank you justone! It’s always nice to recieve that pat on the back again after so many years….my life is a treasure now without a doubt! two beautiful grandsons and a wonderful husband…Life is indeed good!
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You a quite welcome. I think everyone deserves a second chance and that’s why I can’t believe everyone (well just the nutty ones) saying Crystal can’t stay clean. We all know how hard it is to overcome and addiction/abuse of anything and I think is she stays strong she can and go on to have a beautiful life like what you have now. God bless. TTYL
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:46 pm Ohh yeah… Crystal collapsed in tears on HaLeigh’s mattress!!!
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I remember, I also remember the people outside could hear her sobbing and screaming. Broke my heart when I heard that.
justone, I was a very lucky addict. I can’t imagine trying to overcome addiction in the face of a tragedy such as this. I too, hope she can overcome and live on.
Anyone… know the date of the the visit… and video!!
just one said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:50 pm beautiful*adams (cent) said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:46 pm Ohh yeah… Crystal collapsed in tears on HaLeigh’s mattress!!!
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I remember, I also remember the people outside could hear her sobbing and screaming. Broke my heart when I heard that.
%%%%%%%% Funny how people outside could hear what was going on inside but misty couldn’t hear Tommy beating the door down fromm the inside…
methinks said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:51 pm justone, I was a very lucky addict. I can’t imagine trying to overcome addiction in the face of a tragedy such as this. I too, hope she can overcome and live on.
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Give yourself more credit than being lucky, I know it was hard work as I have family member that struggle with addiction and have for almost 15 yrs. It takes hard work, a strong will and lot’s of support and God know how someone does it in the face of a tragedy, I can only imagine what I’d be doing to dull the pain and it ain’t pretty.
Well,Misty and Tommy really can’t be trusted in anything they say.Remember Lindsy saying Misty could sleep through anything and not wake up.She gave Tommy and Misty a coverstory of why Misty wouldn’t hear him knocking and Tommy would be over at the MH at that time,in case anyone saw him there,by the way.
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in March 6th, 2010 at 6:43 pm MeThinks…. I am here and there…
Anyone one remember Crystal saying or that it was reported that she had never been allowed in the MH before? And that the first time she went in there was sometime/days after that night… and Misty was there and was apologizing over and over, and saying to please believe her she had nothing to do with this. Then Crystal asked for one of HaLeigh’s toys, Misty said she would have to ask Ron first.
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Crystal was always welcome at Haleigh’s school, but she couldnt tell you the hrs. Haleigh went to school each day. She knows nothing about Haleighs daily life. Thats a shame!!
Denise, unfortunately, that probably doesn’t help to ease crystals pain…in fact it probably makes it burn, fester, and infect… the grief and guilt must be unbarable.jmo
Anyway…. anyone recall the date of that trailer visit?
Vid/Aud wizard CathyJo is visiting with her Grand-baby… maybe she’ll catch up later… if so Cathy please let me know if you have/seen what I am talking about @6:43.
Karon, I haven’t forgotten the decomp window/time!!
I think Crystal is going to make it. She was saying that Ron was a good father and that Haleigh was his heart at first and then when Kim and Marie stepped in the picture she tried to make it sound like he abused her. I dont believe anything she has said. Actions speak more than words and when she could not answer simple things like when Haleigh got out of school that showed me how much a part of Haleighs life she was. She doesnt have to live with Haleigh to be active in her life and the best way to keep up with how Haleigh is and whats going on with her is teachers especially if you dont get along with the father. She has showed me nothing as a mother. She had a drug addicted baby and was driving around when she shouldnt have been and had seizures from doing drugs with her baby in the car. She has failed at least one drug test while having custody of Jr. She is no better than the rest of them.
I hope God helps her find her way…good or bad and believe me, crystal has a long row to hoe…but for jr and cloes sake, I hope she makes it.
cent, what video are you searching for? not that I could find it…but if it’s of importance to you , well then I wanna’ see it too.
hello, hello, hello…is there anybody out there? just nod if you can hear me…is there anybody there???
oh shoot…thats pink floyd not pink panther…oops
m15/spookcent…are you lurking?
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/
I have this page bookmarked. It has about 29 pages of pictures and video’s of HaLeigh. Whoever it is has pics and video’s from a lot of cases, names are on the left. Hope this helps.
Hey methinks!
Cent If I come across it I will let you know. Do you know if that was about the time TJ reported that TN would not allow Crystal to have one of Haleighs stuffed animals to hold on to?
wow, lfj, I was gettin’ skeert that I was all alone here… I want to see that vid too, I guess I hadn’t heard of this …
Man TN sounds like a witch…a cold wicked witch.
Did she really refuse to let crystal have a toy? for real? well, I can’t imagine how that can be justified by the cummings side, but I bet they tried.
I know there was a vid about it. TJ reported there was a rift between the families. I believe it would be in the month of Feb.It is clear that TN did not like Crystal. I believe Crystal was telling the truth that Ron was a good dad and Haleigh was his heart, but was afraid because Ron could not control his temper. I don’t think that Crystal thought it would be intentional. JMO
All I know is what was reported.
I think rons temper was responsible for alot of this situation…
I understand all of you not knowing me, but I have read and watched everyone from day one. Rona;d lived 6 miles from me. I work at the High School and still remember the day student coming in the morning to school and said they searched our bus for a five year old that went missing last night!!! I put my e mail every time I post………… Thanks for the welcome
When it comes to his temper, I am reminded of what he said to the UC about powder. Powdercan mean cocaine or meth. Meth has a horrible “come down” violence and unpredictability are true side effects of withdrawl from these drugs… HaLeigh may have been on the receiving end of this sort of withdrawl.
Yes I agree methinks.
The one thing I was thinking as I was reading the post regarding Crystal now having temp custody of Jr was; why would a judge not follow the recommendations of a DCF worker?
I have heard that people become very agitated when they are coming down.
Krissy, welcome back! Oh thank you for not being offended. Is there a way that you can let people know who you are so nobody needs to worry? nevermind…it’s really none of our business. I’m glad you came back.
Hi Krissy so you work at the Crescent City jr. sr. high school on 17?
lfj, no shi! huh? It seems the judges and DCF down there are either blind or just plain don’t give a rip. Too many children becoming statistics down there for my tastes. It’s appalling.
Yes the CCJSHS I even graduated from there in the 80’s
methinks, I read in the Palatka Daily News that a DCF worker recommended that Jr. be left in the care of GGSykes and the judge ruled against it and gave temp. custody to Crystal.
Krissy, Do you know any of the sheffields?
I pass by there often.
Some go the the school cousins of Cystals and some Cummings. I use to see Ron’s dad in the Hide a Way (local Bar)
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Though that might be a good idea for awhile, I think in the long run crystal would have been awarded custody anyway and maybe the judge thought it best to get her rollin’ in the right direction now..instead of later when they have to. With the charges ron has, she would be next in line since she’s the mother, it’s hard, but I think it was the best for JR.
I agree definitely methinks. I believe Crystal should have this opportunity. I believe with plenty of support she will overcome her addictions and I agree this sure is a hard time to have to face it.
mistyisinnocent, Perhaps you should come back and attack m2c when she’s here to defend herself.
mistyisinnocent : It has been stated that Ron and Crystal were texting and that He and Crystal were talking about getting back together.
When I read above about Crystal falling on Haleigh’s bed, crying, my heart broke for her. We who Have lost a child know that is a pain only a mother can feel. Someone also made the comment that we all have a past, which is true. My prayer is that Crystal will get well and things will be as good as they can be for a mother who will never be complete again, unless HaLeigh is found.
flmom41, Your heart and mine too, and your so right..I’m sure her heart will never beat the same without her little girl…no matter her past.
mistyisinnocent could you please post the time stamp for m2c posts saying something like that, because in all honesty that does not sound like something m2c would post. You may have the wrong nic.
methinks..it has to be so hard. I know where my son is, and it’s been 27 years since we lost him. She has yet to know about HaLeigh and if she is gone, she has just begun her life without her. The old adage..time heals, well don’t believe it. I am sure I don’t have enough time for it to heal.
LFJ, I think your right. m2c wouldn’t say something without fact to back up her statements. I would go so far as to say, she prides herself on facts, not rumors.
flmom41, you are right it has to be very hard for Crystal. I don’t think anyone ever truely heals after something like this.
I was not trying paint Crystal as this super grieving mom… we all know she has faults, and it’s not a secret that she has made mistakes. I asked because I find the interaction between CS and MC at that moment unguarded!!! That is way…. so stop trying to trump… and leave Chloe out of this, who has access to that baby’s medical records anyway!! Constantly stating she is addicted is WRONG on so many levels.
Bac, all I know is that our laws here in Fl. state if a baby is born with drugs in its system DCF usually steps in and you are not allowed to take the baby home with you. I really do not know too much about Chloe having drugs in her system at birth only what I have read here. If Crystal got to take Chloe home with her when she left the hospital, then there could of not been much to it.
I do know I read that that was bought up and the Judge said he had nothing on that incident for Chloes birth. I read in the Palatka daily news
Thank you Looking… I just get so sick of “them” throwing that out! and it’s always done out of sheer meanness!!
flmom41, I’m sorry about your son. Although I don’t know what happened, I can clearly see that you have a broken wing. Your right to say that people who say time heals all wounds, has never buried a child. I have never buried a child, but I held my brothers hand while he passed, and I still hold my mothers hand as she tries to make sense of it. A mothers heart is delicate…
Cent yes I agree. Crystal is not out making a spectacle of herself therefore this is the only thing to come at Crystal with. I just pray for her and I believe she can and will make it.
I can relate to this… My sister passed away, young with cancer. 2 weeks later, I lost mother. My mother couldn’t breathe after my sister passed. When your child is gone, you grieve. It is something I would not want anyone to go through. I pray for Haleigh to come “HOME”. For her “Mother” & everyone….
Hi! And especially “Hi” and “Thanks” to Methinks and looking for Justice!
Maybe I have some “psychic” ability after all! LOL! (Just joking, really!) Or maybe you two do!
I JUST checked the blog for the first time since about 1:00 today and saw mistyisinnocent’s attack.
The comment she is referring to is probably one I made at 12:30 today when I was discussing some things with Tobias.
Most of you know that I have about seven theories with different people being responsible for what happened. When I’m thinking about one or more I “plug in” what facts we know, what other people think, some possibilities I’ve considered and even some rumors – to see how it plays out. That’s what I was doing with the “Misty was unhappy and might have been responsible” (accidentally or on purpose) theory.
To someone who does not know me, that may have come across as my only theory or my only opinion or something I’m trying to persuade others to believe – none of which is true.
Mistyisinnocent: Please wait until you know people really well before you insult them or call them stupid because it backfires big time.
Calling it a night, now. Have a good evening.
And thank you again, Methinks and looking for Justice.
FLMom, Methinks… beautiful words… while I do have my son with me… My heart breaks each and every time he has heart surgery… because I can’t fix his!!! Mothers are delicate!!
methinks..thank you for your thoughts. Yes, a mothers heart is very delicate. Some of us will live, breath and die for our babies, then there are some…
Goodnight M2C!!
me said,in March 6th, 2010 at 9:39 pm looking for Justice said,in March 6th, 2010 at 9:29 pm Bac, all I know is that our laws here in Fl. state if a baby is born with drugs in its system DCF usually steps in and you are not allowed to take the baby home with you. I really do not know too much about Chloe having drugs in her system at birth only what I have read here. If Crystal got to take Chloe home with her when she left the hospital, then there could of not been much to it.
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Actually, KP told the Bar Association about it…and, it’s never been denied by Crystal & co. So sad. Mothers who use while pregnant should not be allowed to bring their babies home until they prove they are clean for a period of time. Instead, she got to bring her home, then could have killed her by driving with her whilst she was under the influence of drugs and crashing. Poor Chloe. Sure hope Crystal cleans up her act, but I seriously doubt she will. Anyone who uses while pregnant is a very serious addict and needs serious help.
You should take the time to read the complaint documents…they will enlighten you, I am certain.
**I meant your words were/are beautiful**
WHATEVER!!!!!
I know Crystal has made mistakes and had not been the role models of mothersand I do not condone it, but when her daughter came up missing she got in front of all those cameras and let her drug usuage be known and this was before KP was involved. Crystal had to know she was going to raked over the coals, but she still put it out there anywats. I have to respect that. On Nancy Grace it was brought up about making a false claim about a vehicle being stolen. Crystal did ask KP if she could explain that to Nancy Grace and was told no by her lawyer. Crystal was willing to tell the whole world. There was no denials from Crystal in the media after Haleigh came up missing.
looking for Justice said,in March 6th, 2010 at 9:06 pm mistyisinnocent : It has been stated that Ron and Crystal were texting and that He and Crystal were talking about getting back together”
I’d like to know the context because crystal had zero chance of getting ron. he could get any pretty girl in the county. I imagine ron was humouring her for some reason. He had so much contempt for her that he was beating the crap out of her when they were together. Crystal wanted ron back, no doubt about that, but ron did not want crystal.
looking for Justice said,
in March 6th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Cent If I come across it I will let you know. Do you know if that was about the time TJ reported that TN would not allow Crystal to have one of Haleighs stuffed animals to hold on to?
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I’m not sure if it’s the same one/time!
Your welcome m2c and sweet dreams.
bac..(hope you don’t mind me abbreviating your name.) I am so sorry your son has heart problems. I Wish I could help. By getting him the help he needs, you are fixing it! And I wish you all the best.
well mistyisinnocent I guess you cleared that up for us, but it has been stated and I even heard it from a friend of mine that lives in Palatka. If is true or not I really do not know.
What in the hello is a generic kid???LOL
FLMom… BAC/bac/cent/ba/adams… of course I don’t mind!!! Yes, he was born with it and he’ll be 18yrs old in 6 months… So we are very blessed… I just shared that because mothers grieve on different levels/degrees!!! I wish you the best too! Thank You
Ron only won custody because he had a job. I guess if I were the judge, I would have given each of them time to show good intention…by getting and staying clean. Until that time these children should have been in foster care, or with clean relatives (foster care) In time, One would shine through…that one would get an opportunity to parent the children. If this would have been done, HaLeigh Cummings would still be here…going to school, playing barbies with her friends and riding bikes with her brother. The state of Florida failed this child.
mistyisinnocent how do you know he was beating the crap out of Crystal when she was with him?
WinterRose said,
in March 6th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
What in the hello is a generic kid???LOL
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Huh?
AMEN!!! methinks
mistyisinnocent, I don’t mean to correct you…oh wait, yes I do, Ron could get any pretty girl in the county? Don’t you mean any pretty, young, (underaged) not very intellegent girl in the county… He’s no prize, well maybe from where your from….
mistyisinnocent said,in March 6th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Crystal wanted ron back, no doubt about that, but ron did not want crystal.
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That is what I heard too. And that seems the most likely scenario to me. Who knows, maybe she thought if Haleigh disappeared it would bring them closer together? She sure seems to be the one with the many motives.
You know methinks it sounds like mistyisinnocent likes Ron and does not like Crystal, but tells us he is a batterer of women/girls.
BOINK))))))) here we go again.
If TN refused to give Crystal a teddy bear, and I seriously doubt that, perhaps it was because she was scared she’d sell it to buy crack or something? Crystal & her mom were sure shaking the tin can real quick….if I was TN, I would have been disgusted seeing them selling Haleigh t-shirts & bracelets to pay their bills so quick after she went missing. You’d almost think Marie had pre-ordered before Haleigh was even gone. Don’t know how she could have been thinking of merchandising within days of Haleigh vanishing.
LFJ, could it be?///????
Well Gee Me, Don’t sugar coat it,….tell us how you reaqly feel!
Gosh I knew it wouldn’t be long and cummings camp would find a way to justify not giving crystal a measly teddybear…. just didn’t think it would happen this quickly.
cent
Someone in an earlier post said something about the kids not being Misty’s generic kids.I’ve just not heard that one.I just learn something new everytime I come here. 🙂
methinks, I wonder how much contempt Ron had for Misty? we heard how he was suppose to of rolled up Misty and put her through doors and into a mirror per Nay Nay and just one.
Now we have mistyisinnocent coming in and saying he beat the crap out of Crystal.
methinks….I can’t help it….I’d be highly suspicious of any family who can lose a child and so quickly go into merchandising mode. Even the As waited months. And hearing Johnny Sheffield talk about how he wanted the movie rights made me feel sick.
mistyisinnocent better talk to Ron because he said he don’t hit girls. He said this in the Geraldo interview.
Nay Nay is a terrible junkie. Perhaps many of you haven’t had much experience with junkies before, but those of us that have, know, they cannot be trusted at all. And so much of this “info” comes from junkies, like Hank, Tommy, Nay Nay etc.. I don’t believe any of it.
Maybe the teddy bears were stuffed with something they shouldn’t have been… PILLS!!!
Why would Ron need to humor Crystal… he had his children, he had control!! Ridiculous!!
Winter… Heee Heee!
Me, I will say it again…The state of Florida failed this child.
From what I understand the buckets were going on both sides,both sides have reaped donations,food,and bills paid by the public.When that was flying around about the toy asked for,I believe Crystal asked Misty and she said she’d have to ask RC.Wasn’t it Wayanne that came up with that story?I don’t know if TN even had anything to do with it.Back and forth,Crystal failed a drug test,RC dealing and doing drugs,if either doing drugs caused HaLeigh to be harmed or abducted that’s more important than which one is the biggest drug user.
Ron’s a champ. Crystal’s a nun…who cares? HaLeigh is GONE and both of these people have no room to throw rocks. They both leave much room for desire when it comes to parenting.
The State of Florida also failed Misty & Crystal. Neither should have been brought up the way they were. Young children out of school and no one notices??? Marie busted for running a drug dwelling….where was DCF then?…Crystal just moves out at 14, Marie allows it? Goodness. Those parents ought to be ashamed, but instead, they peacock around like they are/were the greatest parents ever.
cent you are right. Ron had the control. I believe Ron and Crystal both love their children, but they made poor choices. Crystal now has the opportunity for another chance and she deserves it. I believe she can make it.
Winterrose, you took the words right out of my mouth!
Winter who said it??
Shoot,NayNay could just as well be a Croslin.pfftt!
Winter was it me that said Generic ??
cent, I think it was mistyisinnocent that said that…it was a misprint…?chuckle
cent it was mistyisinnocent, she said the kids were not her genetic kids.
genaric…genetic, nevermind…I won’t go there. It’s getting late and I gotta’ start watchin’ my mouth or I might get in twubble.
cent,
Do you mean which one said it about the toy?I just remember Wayanne was talking about Misty crying on her in the mh,Crystal crying on the bed and Misty telling her she didn’t do anything.I can’t remember who said Crystal asked Misty about a toy and she said she’d have to ask RC.Who knows,I thought wayanne was trying to write a book or something and honestly I don’t believe alot of what’s been put out there.Too much sensationalism for people wanting books and movies.
cent post time 8:58pm mistisinnocent. I think winter was making fun of her due to her calling herself dumb and uneducated. I could be wrong though
No cent it wasn’t you.
@10:35 winter.. no it was the generic post!
I remember that Misty said she had to ask Ron first. I don’t know and DON’T want to know about the book/movie junk.
LfJ,
I wouldn’t make fun of anyone and I don’t think Misty is dumb and uneducated,actually I think she’s very street smart and smarter than she appears.
Oh,who said the generic post,I don’t know,I was just reading through and someone said something about generic kids.It cracked me up,I’d never heard it before. 🙂 I was going to use it on my kids sometime.LOL
Okay… I got confused… I say no more about it!
Winter Rose I was referring to the 8:58 post by mistyisinnocent calling herself dumg and uneducated. It was in reference to the genetic kid post. My apologies if I did not clarify that.
sorry typo – dumb not dumg
mistyisinnocent said,in March 6th, 2010 at 8:58 pm m2c, you seriously think ron and crystal were contemplating getting back together??????? Misty was attached to the kids as much as any babysitter. they are not her genetic kids so the bond is not going to compete with bio parents. preface your comments with. just my very very dumb uneducated opinion.
############# I think this is where the misunderstanding came from.
bac..here is the post.
mistyisinnocent said,in March 6th, 2010 at 8:58 pm m2c, you seriously think ron and crystal were contemplating getting back together??????? Misty was attached to the kids as much as any babysitter. they are not her genetic kids so the bond is not going to compete with bio parents. preface your comments with. just my very very dumb uneducated opinion.
great minds..lol
(((No MORE)))), ((((No MORE))))
I’m doing phone texting/blogging/eating chips&salsa/watching The God Father… I am a mess!!
Hey all 🙂
Cent LOL multitasking?
Hey Cathartic!! Great too see you
Yes.. now I’m going to watch the The Tudors!!!!
Hello… Cathartic!!!!
Dear God cent! Your about the most talented blogger I ever did meet! Holy Moly Roly Poly!!
sit back and relaxing. Thats the way to go Cent.
hi cathartic!!
Question: Does anyone know if LE has ever given a statement about evidence at the scene? And if so, where I might find the statement? I am wondering if they checked the drains in the MH, particularly for the washer.
Yeah… I’m a history fanatic!! And I am sooooo hungry!!! Guys, me and my sister got that Misty call to Timmy down to a “T”… The hunger call, I’ve named it!!
Well guys I am heading to bed. It has been great. You all have a good night and try to stay out of twubble.
Cathartic, I asked before about that… I wondered if the drum of the washer/dyer were check.. lint trap… no one knew. But, I didn’t really look for it. But a good question, my friend!
‘Night lfj.
pffttt!Do you mean the “I only get to eat three times a day”call? LOL
night looking.
I’m sooo hungry!!
Ohh my god, they’re starving her her!!!
goodnight looking for justice! sleep well friend…yikes that almost sounded like NG!
Hey BA…I was thinking along the lines of checking the drain could have given a clue to whether the washer was used that evening or not. But yeah, I agree, the lint trap in the washer or dryer would show the last thing washed or dried, especially something as linty as a blanket.
I bet they didn’t check the washer, lint filter etc….look how long it took them to GO BACK and take the door for processing!
cathartic, I do know that WS has some info… but I don’t know to what extent. I have skated by a few times, looking at other things. I believe it’s either them or SM… that is sporting a really good time-line, and a family connection/tree!
MeThinks… yeah, the back-door… that was a pity!!
BA, what is SM?
Sacred Monkey
cent, It was a terrible mistake! The officers on sight should have been written up for making such a terrible mistake! This door probably held some of the only evidence there was to be found…
Cathartic… have you skated by HollyG’s Forensic Forum? There is a lot of info there, I’m a member.
Well, It’s time for me to turn in as well…so until tommorrow… night all. It’s been a good day and I’ve enjoyed sharing it with all of you!!!
Methinks, yes… I found that interesting. I’m wondering if they thought since there were no signs of force entry, that it wasn’t necessary. That’s the only reason I can think of.
Wow BA, no I haven’t. Didn’t know about her forum. She is so good at ferreting out stuff!
I, too, believe LE may not have checked out some things they should have. And that’s unfortunate because it’s too late for a do-over.
Yes, I think I shall retire also… see ya all in the morning, or later if I can’t sleep!
‘Night BA.
Yes, there is lots of info about all kinds of forensics and cases. I think you’d enjoy it.
Good-Night Cathartic!! ** I’ll probably be back late… insomniac, ya know!
I’m off to do some more research. Take care, everyone.
siouxindian said,in March 6th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
I am sorry I didn’t see your post and am very sorry for the loss of your sister and Mom.
looking for Justice said,in March 6th, 2010 at 9:55 pm mistyisinnocent how do you know he was beating the crap out of Crystal when she was with him?
this was certainly claimed by Crystal in numerous interviews. she claimed that rons entire family witnessed it and did nothing.
i think a stranger or took haleigh. Most agree that nancy grace is infatuated with Ron. Now that he is famous, he could have any female in america. rich, smart, famous etc..
Cent
Can you tell me about the sighting hollysgmom had of HaLeigh?When was it?
Never mind,I found the posts.Was just wondering thought she had said it was at a birthday party,but she’d live too far away from them to see that.
Hi all, I ve read here forever, and enjoy MOST of the posts, lol. You all seem like a great group. I might try joining in here, for a bit.
First, I have no agenda, I just hope to take what bits of info we have, and maybe come up with a theory of what happened to Haleigh that makes sense. That being stated, I have to say… mistyisinnocent……….. Ron,rich?and smart? and infamous is more like it….. geesh. jmo.
To be clearer, that was in reply to mistyisinnocent post 3/6, 11:49
Have a great day all!
Good Morning, Looking for Justice, where do you live? Local Im sure. Do you like this area? When I was assigned to a class Iuse to be an aide for Charles Jones and Hope Sykes. They have dropped out since then. Have a great Sunday!!!!!!!!!
mistyisinnocent said,in March 6th, 2010 at 11:49 pm looking for Justice said,in March 6th, 2010 at 9:55 pm mistyisinnocent how do you know he was beating the crap out of Crystal when she was with him?
this was certainly claimed by Crystal in numerous interviews. she claimed that rons entire family witnessed it and did nothing.
i think a stranger or took haleigh. Most agree that nancy grace is infatuated with Ron. Now that he is famous, he could have any female in america. rich, smart, famous etc..
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% I hope you make it back today to read the responses to your comments…For starters, If rons family witnessed such abuse, I would think they would have adressed it in court. I do however believe it since we know that ron had an explosive temper…What I don’t believe or know is, what happened to you that your self esteem was reduced so low that you would think any woman in their right mind would want anything at all to do with Ronald Cummings??? You really make him sound like a great catch. I hope you understand, (for your own sake) that men like Ron don’t know how to respect women. Once a woman beater…always a woman beater…I hope you take good care of yourself and talk with a professional about your misconceptions about what a woman deserves when it comes to men, as I suspect you’ve been one the recieving end of a few men like him. I won’t try to address your statement about NG since I’m not sure out of what field it came. It seems to me the only relationships ron attracts are young underage dropouts with self esteem and drugs problems…It’s not ron that they’re attracted to….it’s the drugs and the attention they can’t get at home. I hope you understand that I’m not saying this to be mean, I am just concerned for you since I think if ron weren’t in jail, you could quite possibly become one of his next victims. God speed child.
methinks…. I was an aide in 2204-2008. I still work for the school. These two had so many issue on all levels. I always listened to them and tried to be as understanding.
Methinks, You are so correct about his choices in girlfriends. That age group still believes in the happily ever after life. He never married anyone till he was forced into it because of possible legal problems. I dont believe he ever intended on it, he had it made, house keeper, babysitter,cook, and fringe benefits. I think Misty knew this too thats why she took off on her wild weekend but later rethought her actions. With no education, job or future what else could she hope for other than a husband(boyfriend) to support her? She wanted her fantasy to work out. I sure wished we knew what Amber and Misty fought about on that weekend. jmo
Goodmorning methinks! Excellent post!
Krissy, no I am not a local, but as much as I am over that way one might consider me one. I have friends and family that live there.
tobias, I reckon misty was getting tired of not having a home…her parents were living with their kids…or in their car…what kind of life is that? I think your right, she chose the one thing that could save her from living god knows where and that was ron. He had a job to buy food, smokes and probably tampons each month…her parents couldn’t or wouldn’t do that for her. As for the fight,God only knows, but I can imagine it had something to do with Jordon and ron and jeolousy…
methinks caught your goodnight post. Yeah friend you did sound like NG.
Looking.. How far do you live? My daughter lives in Palm Coast and my sister in Ormond Beach on A1A. Are you close to that area?
Krissy, If I may be so bold to ask, and you certainly don’t have to jeopardize your job to tell me, but what kind of issues did they have? and just for the record,give yourself a pat on the back…these kids couldn’t have been easy to work with.
LFJ, oh sorry… I really thought so to after I posted it!
You know I was thinking about mistyisinnocents post ” Ron had so much contempt for Crystal that he beat the crap out of her” . I only remember Crystal stating on the Geraldo interview that there was a slap to her head and kicked her off the bed and he verbally abused her. That was the only one I can remember. It almost sounded to me like this person knew what went on with Ron and His actions towards Crystal. I could be wrong, but I felt this person was angered at the thought they read that Crystal and Ron were talking about getting back together. JMO.
I also thought about JUstones post on TN having Mistys camera and phone. Perhaps since Misty had gotten roughed up before and her purse was stolen during one of her drug buys, she left her camera and phone in Katrinas car so if anything like that happened again they did not get her phone. It is easier to replace an ID and a purse.JMO
Me… That really has to stay confident. Children living an adult life dealing with adult situation. Very sad!
I live in Port Orange, Fl.
Methinks no need to be sorry I thought it was funny.LOL!
LFJ, I still think the phone and camara were left for one of two reasons:
1) in case they had to run. travel light,leave no evidence behind…so to speak.
2) they were left in an overnight bag, didn’t need them for quick drug buy.
Sounds about right to me methinks. I get that theory. I believe it is correct.
Krissy, no worries…I understand. Also, I just want you to know that the things you say here, I believe are true. I hope you understand why some folks here are skeptical. I think as you continue to post, they too, will come around. This really is the best site to post your thoughts and opinions and theories about HaLeigh…We all love her and think of her as one of our own. again welcome!
LFJ, I agree that mistyisinnocent sounds like she’s very familiar to the players involved…Lynsey? Naynay? or just a friend of mistys?
methinks whoever it is really likes Ronald.
I would come closer to believing its a hugs for thugs person, but I could be wrong. jmo
hugs for thugs? I’ve heard you mention this yesterday but forgot to ask…ron fans?
Everyone – and especially Krissy and Looking for Justice.
As far as I’m concerned no one ever has to or even should tell us their name or location or anything personal about themselves. (Even in an email or PM). First because this is a public blog and can cause risks.
Second because I accept everyone the way they present themselves on this blog. That’s all I need or have a right to know.
And frankly, even if someone says they live right next door to C or R or has some other close connection, it does not matter to me because I would still not know if they are telling the truth about themselves or whatever “info” they are passing along. It could be their own thoughts which could be right or wrong, it could be local rumor. It could be anything. So no one gets “extra points of credibility” with me because they do or supposedly live some particular place or know someone.
All of that goes in my “maybe” file.
It’s just too easy to do that and play “Queen of the Blog” and get everyone’s attention and make it seem like their opinion or comments are more valid or important than anyone else’s. It’s also easy to mislead people.
Looking for justice, I have always enjoyed blogging with you and have never needed or wanted to know where you’re from or any other personal info.
Krissy, same thing. No extra points for saying or even really “knowing” anyone. Stuff like that goes in my “maybe” file. But of course you are welcome here. Say what you will but please respect other’s privacy even if you don’t value your own.
Women who have formed a group and they have relationships( writing, calls, visits) with men who are in prison. jmo
Honestly m2c I really did not think about it like that. I just answered a question I was asked without thinking about privacy risk. Point taken.
Tobias
High 5!Was wondering who else caught that. 🙂
Winter rose, Maybe someone should let Misty know that the woman he is talking to can come “visit” with him when he goes to prison…
That should wake her up.jmo
I don’t understand women that just go after men in trouble,kind of dangerous game,I’d say.I guess they feel it’s safe if it’s just behind a computer and you want your name in the news,but it’s negative publicity.They’ll probably be sick B’s that contact the pig who raped and murdered Chelsea King.Disgusting!
Hee hee hope he has clean boxers by then.
I dont get why LE had him tell her he still loved her so she would cry about his losing Junior. I wonder if it was true or a lie from Ron? jmo
Plus I don’t guess they think about the chance when thier names get out there in this kind of activity,Dept of Childrens Services could be watching them to see if the children are in any kind if danger,KWIM.I really worry about children in that atmosphere with thier mothers behavior.What are the children being exposed to and who?
Sorry LFJ… I really wasn’t trying to pry, never looked at it that way. They had just mentioned going down HWY 17 thats all. Sorry for the tension, I really didn’t mean anything. I will stick to reading like I have been for a year now. I surely wasn’t tring to “win points”. Again sincerly sorry.
Hello Gang!!!
Winter rose, I believe this woman that writes Ron really wants a relationship, she sent him a picture. He also writes to her so he knows her address and talks about her kids at one point. She sounds like some of the women who marry guys while they are in prison, someone better tell Misty she has a rival for Rons affections. jmo
Krissy do not worry about it. No harm done. I did not think about it that way either. I answered you honestly that I was not a local. No biggie.
LE wants her to talk and they get that she still loves him.I think it’s true and I don’t think he thought he’d be taped.But,anyone can be taped in jail,I think what has been put out with RC’s audios is what LE wants to get back to Misty and her family.It appears LE is out to find Misty and Tommy’s involvment,JMO.I have no idea,I’d pretty floored by all of this anyway.I’m really waiting to find out what is going on right now.
Hello Cent!!!
Tobias
I can’t get people giving money to people in jail,like that guy sending money to Misty and she doesn’t even know who he is.It’s a pretty sick game,I don’t get sick fasinations.
My point is there has been nothing said because she loves Ron. I wonder if they break that bond she may spill everything, scorned women can be very informative of past events that they let go by because of love.jmo
I meant fascinations. 🙂
Hey Looking!! I’m going to go into lurk mode.
Tobias
She doesn’t love RC,she started contacting some family members to get the contact,it backfired in the media.Now,she’s just under the wings of some others online.It’s just part of every case,with main players,you always have people like that.Casey probably has alot of these guys,they probably aren’t doing it for media attention,but because they’re just sick.LOL
Misty knows we are all watching and knows others are too. Her message is to Ron saying she still loves him. Does she think it will get back to him? Sure she does, and he will know she hasnt said anything to LE. And why would Lisa sit there and join in on it? If my daughter were in this much trouble and I believed she knew nothing I would be very angry at her statement of love. I would tell her she better think about her situation and worry about love when she was old enough to know what it really means. jmo
m/15spookcent, top o’ the mornin! winterrose, hello to you and the others as well…I certainly don’t think Krissy meant anything by asking her questons of LFJ, and I certainly hope she returns and shares her thoughts and opinions with us.
tobias, thanks for explaining hugs for thugs to me…I’m a bit of a dummy in the mornin oops afternoon sometimes
Hi, looking for Justice! Some folks aren’t even aware of the risks and sometimes I think we get so comfortable here it’s easy to forget we’re on a public blog and all that brings with it. Just wanted to let you know that you don’t ever have to answer questions and you should not feel badly if you don’t.
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Krissy, please continue to blog with us. No reason to leave. Everyone here has the right to express themselves and the right to “take or leave” others’ comments in whatever way they want to according to their own point of view.
I just didn’t want anyone to feel that they had to give out personal info here. No one has to. In fact, for safety’s sake, no one should (IMO).
I have three sleeves of OREO’s …. got milk?
About R’s “fan.” I think we’re all agreed that LE purposely got all these people in jail in an effort to get someone to talk. So IMO it may be possible that they also set up R with a “fan/girl friend” to cause some rift between R and M.
Of course we all also know there are plenty of real nutcases out there who “date” and even marry men in jail so she may be one of them.
OR she’s a snoopey nose trying to insert herself into the investigation/story and even try to get info.
I would not be surprised at any of the above.
Now, I wonder what would happen if LE sent some handsome stranger in to befriend M? Sweep her off her feet with romantic letters and on jail house calls? That would be interesting. (Mean and underhanded and cruel, though)
m2c, Your right about that. There are those kinds of people out there just surfing for stuff they can use to obtain info from unsuspecting folks…is this what they man by phishing? I really am naive about many internet terms and such.
cent – this is SO funny! When you said you were going to “lurk” I said to myself, “I wonder what she’s snacking on!” LOL!
Lucky you! OREO’s! I may have to go to the store. Darn you.
m2c, It may be mean, cruel and underhanded but if it is effective, I say do it! I think withholding info about what took place that night is also mean, cruel and underhanded..jmo
M2C.. I couldn’t help it!!!
I can see it now, My personal interviews in writing with Ron Cummings up for auction on Craigs list.LOL Someone has dollar signs maybe?jmo
Anyone ever try the deep fried Oreo’s @ the fairs/carnivals… Not me… I can’t get my head around that one!
m2c
Since we’re not hearing alot of RC’s calls,I think they were coordinated to get to Misty and her family,actually.As was the groupie’s call.LE didn’t make that up,sad to say there are people like that out there.I just wish the little B would talk,I’m getting pi..ed waiting for her to tell what happened.The longer it goes on,the longer I hope her sentence is,KWIM.
Last night cent was snacking on chips and saulsa…today..oreos hmmm careful girl or you may end up like me 200lbs. of cookies, cakes and well, I’m not a big chips fan….messes up my beautiful complextion! sucks cuz’ I used to be little….but now I’m just a big fat gramma!
Methinks @ M and a new Romeo, I have to agree.Haleigh is the most important person here.
And Tobias, you could be right! @ 2:02.
It could happen with any of them!
BAC, No but I love the double stuff ones. I had a few earlier in the week. My favorite is the thin mint girlscout cookis and icecrem.yummmm.lol
Tobias you are on a roll today. 🙂 Exactly,do you know how much money could be involved in book deals and rights to your name being in any movie or even online ventures? 😉
OMG tobias, You just had to say “thin mint girlscout cookies” Now I’m craving them! thanks pal!
Yes… I must cut-back on the snacks!! Will be back for the radio show… gonna watch another episode of The Tudors.. on demand!!
just to clear up something Johnny fought cocks not dogs. In fact, on feb. 5 right before Haleigh went missing he posted on his myspace that he was going to a cock fight.Since his myspace is now private you can’t see it.
WinterRose said,in March 7th, 2010 at 2:10 pm Tobias you are on a roll today. Exactly,do you know how much money could be involved in book deals and rights to your name being in any movie or even online ventures?
############ hopefully none! 0$$$$ It should be a law that nobody profits off cases like this, but especially family! I hope the As are reading this.
Oh,I love those thin mints and the butter cookies.
Johnny Sheffield could fight earthworms and I still wouldn’t care…except about the safety of the earthworms! LOL
I for one will never buy a book about it or see a movie about it just because of that fact.
Also if there ever is one all monies should go to a college fund for Junior and Chloe. imho
ME, Are you ever in a civil mood? Krissy didn’t say one thing…NOT ONE THING about her students, in fact if you go back and read, you will see how she respectfully declined to answer my queston. NO personal info was given!GEEEZ
Methinks: Phishing is more like when you get an email that SEEMS to be from your bank or credit card or something and asks for info or asks you to click on a link in the email. NEVER do that! Just clicking on the link could cause problems. And where it will take you could be a form you’re “required” to fill out to verify your account number and password etc.
With that info they can clean out your bank account and worse.
If you ever get emails like that delete them right away. Then if you are concerned, go directly to the real web site for your bank or credit card and see what’s going on. It’s also a good idea to report the phishing attempt. Although some places want you to forward the phishing email to them. Just whatever you do DON’T click on any link in the email or reply in any way. Treat it like a snake. And after you’ve reported it, then delete it.
Posting personal info here can cause other types of problems. Just remember that anyone in the world can read this blog. Anyone can blog with us. That’s one of the reasons I encourage people to communicate personally with each other thru BNN’s Forum with the PM (personal messages). Then your email does not show unless you want it to.
Being cautious on the net is not rude or impolite. It’s really a necessity these days. I’ll just leave it at that for now.
Fighting animals,that’s sick!People who use fighting animals will abuse them.
Well hello they are being abused by fighting them,but even worse how they’re treated when they’re not in the fights.
Also do not ever open an attachment in a suspect email. It could unleash a virus or Trojan type program.
Unfortunately I know of some horror stories where a former “friend” sent someone a virus in an email attachment. Former “friends” have also published personal info about people they’ve turned against (after being really good friends for a while on the net).
I’d rather everyone err on the side of caution. Nothing’s wrong with that (IMO)
Has anyone read what was going on at Michael Vick’s home with those poor animals?It’s disgusting and they should be locked up for fighting animals,people who own the animals and who go to them!!!
earthworm fights? LMAO
Me, She did say they were living in an adult world with adult situations…yes if you wanna’ go there, that can be taken wrong. However, I believe she did the right thing by saying what she said…If you feel the need to find blame, then by all mens blame me for asking. It isn’t like we and the entire world didn’t already know what kind of life these children were living…it’s obvious.
WinterRose – That makes me so sick. Really.
The sorry excuses for human beings who abuse animals that way should be shot. That’s it really. Firing squad. Even that’s too humane for them IMO.
I am not protecting anyone but some people post things on their sites to lure others in and report on dog fights etc. Kind like the LE and FBI luring in pediphiles. I noticed in the dockets of his there was a video camera taken, he could have been taping people at the fights for evidence. Most of these people would never allow cameras at these illegal events. jmo
WinterRose said,in March 7th, 2010 at 2:23 pm Fighting animals,that’s sick!People who use fighting animals will abuse them.
######### To me, it’s also a clear indication of low morals and it shows that this person may well be capable of abusing humans…adults or children.jmo
WinterRose @ 2:03 – I agree!
Misty has her felony arraignment at 1:30 tomorrow.
As much as I hate these events and have been active with PETA i also know its in the same mentality as Boxing, Wrestling and UFC. jmo
methinks said,in March 7th, 2010 at 2:20 pm ME, Are you ever in a civil mood? Krissy didn’t say one thing…NOT ONE THING about her students, in fact if you go back and read, you will see how she respectfully declined to answer my queston. NO personal info was given!GEEEZ
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She did give personal info….I’m not going to repeat it. If she wants to breach the confidence of an adult, that’s one thing, but in my opinion, you should not be posting about school kids and information you became privy to whilst employed at a school. I think she knows that and that’s why she said the info she gave had to stay confident.
I was involved several months ago saving Otis the boxer you can google it if you like. He was tazzed by police in Lakewood. He was not agressive and if you know the breed he is just afraid and trying to scare them away. I know this because I own a boxer and have many friends with boxers. jmo
Oh tobias that is sad,is he okay?
We started a petition and he was set free after his owner relocated from Lakewood. The police there should really get better training in my opinion. If they taz a dog like that 2 times you can imagine what they would do to a person. jmo
tobias said,in March 7th, 2010 at 2:36 pm As much as I hate these events and have been active with PETA i also know its in the same mentality as Boxing, Wrestling and UFC. jmo
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Not the same mentality at all. Boxers and wrestlers choose to do that. Animals have no such choice. You might want to look at the established co-relation between cruelty to animals and extreme cruelty to humans.
Brutality is cruelty its the same . Acts like this are starting fight clubs and I hOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT i MEAN. JMO
tHE PEOPLE WHO WATCH SUCH EVENTS GET THE SAME THRILL AS THEY GET WATCHING DOGS, CHICKENS ETC. JMO
Sorry everyone I got off topic and I am going to go clear my head and calm down. I just cant stand double standard nonsense people say to cover for mans inhumanities. jmo bbl
tobias….are you serious?….boxing is a sport, and an olympic one at that. I have known many boxers over the years and they have all been professional atheletes and great guys.
You might want to educate yourself about animal cruelty. There are plenty of studies out there that prove what I, and so many others here, are saying about animal cruelty is true.
Why are you trying to make Johnny look better? Do you think he should get the movie rights for this case, like he wants? Johnny is a sicko….there is no defending people who engage in those activities.
We used to have two boxers, they were wonderful. If a fireplace is lit, they will stay between it and a baby. If a baby was at our house, and they were leaving, the boxers would walk beside whoever was carrying the baby until they were in the car! Very protective of children. We now have a lil Pom who is our heart!
Tobias, I love boxers! Before my mom was strickened with alzheimers, she often told the story of when I was a toddler, we owned a boxer named “Butchie” Well, Butchie taught me to walk…he was blamed for many of my sisters and my brothers antics such as taking the frozen pie from the freezer, turning on the ove, cooking and consuming the whole pie! He was a very gentle,and apparently intelligent dog…I only vaguely remember him…but I know that if I didn’t have my collie/wolf, I would get a boxer for my grandchildren. Dogs of certain breeds often take the blame for attacks on humans, when in fact it’s not the dog, it’s the owner that raised the dog…it’s alot like people who raise children without instilling morals or values, the children may become aweful adults when in fact, this doesn’t have to be the case. People aren’t born bad or mean, they are made that way through childhood conditioning.
Thank you all, I guess you understand what I mean about mans inhumanities to animals and to other humans for the thrill of entertainment. jmo
Me, Johnny Sheffield does’nt need tobias to make him look better or worse… nevermind, somehow I don’t think anything anyone would say to you today will be right…some people are just not happy unless they are engaged in battle. sorry jmo
48 minutes to lift off! I mean till the show.
Methinks ,Thank you I think you are right I cant believe Me said I was defending JS.jmo
Butchie did it!
Tobias, No prob! Everyone here knows what you were trying to say.
Tobias, regarding:
As much as I hate these events and have been active with PETA i also know its in the same mentality as Boxing, Wrestling and UFC. jmo
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IMO, it is similar, but far from the same because people choose – rhey aren’t forced. they aren’t beaten, stomped, hung, or shot when they lose.
Too bad Haleigh didnt have a Butchie or a Tobias or she would still be here, I know it in my heart. jmo
Jason, The entertainment factor is the same to me, I respect your opinion but I was pointing out the fact that as long as people see people beating on each other as sport things will never change. jmo
Iwill agree to disagree and leave this subject because I am too opinionated on it. Sorry to upset people. jmo
Yeah send it to the coalition for justice care of jane V M. LOL JMO
Looking for a man? Pay attention to the way he treats animals; his own dog/cat, or any other animal. That is how he will treat you.
True. I get accussed of loving Tobias more than the hubby quite often. He does understand since he has a german shepherd that goes everywhere with him. jmo
Jason said,in March 7th, 2010 at 3:38 pm Looking for a man? Pay attention to the way he treats animals; his own dog/cat, or any other animal. That is how he will treat you
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I totally agree.
tobias said,in March 7th, 2010 at 3:36 pm Yeah send it to the coalition for justice care of jane V M. LOL JMO
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Sorry Tobias….I assumed because you were posting here you actually cared about children and their rights. My bad.
Jason I too, agree…and would go on to say that it might not only be an indication of how he will treat a woman ….but also his or anyones children….you know, bullying the weak etc.
Me, Dont you even know what the Coalition for Justice is? Its a organization to help victims. geeezzzz. Send the money there to help find children. omg jmo
Methinks, I have the impression Me is a man.jmo
show time bbl
People that look with fault in everyone are usually unhappy with themselves, and have no life. Do not ever address me again. I am done with your nonsense!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tobias, I agree about the entertainment factor – to a degree.
Reason is, fans of football, wrestling and other contact sports know they’re viewing humans who have chosen that activity. I believe a primary factor is that they enjoy the competitiveness; same as NASCAR fans.
No doubt JS enjoys the competitiveness (entertainment) factor, but he doesn’t have the empathy for animals that most fans of legal contact sports do.
One of my buddies is a huge wrestling fan; – 6’2, over 250 lb. He did everything possible to save the life of his tiny little mixed-breed dog, and tells me he cried every day for a month after she died; treated her like a queen while she was with him.
He lives, breathes wrestling; loves the competitiveness, but would never, ever tolerate the forced fighting of a dog, bird, or any other animal, human or otherwise.
Krissy, ever heard of FERPA? Don’t you respect the rights of children?….rhetorical question. I think your posts should be sent to the school and let them deal with your breach of federal legislation.
methinks,
Yes, I can see where ‘bullying’ is probably a major attraction – least able to fight back are abused first; by the time the spouse is noticeably abused, the children, and family pet have already been.
Hi everyone, I stepped out for a little while. I see fire works again. Please stop it! There is no need in it.
Krissy you did not say anything about any children in that school. It is ok. Please ignore.
methinks said nothing disgusting either. Please stop this rediculous behavior.Lets debate like civilized human beings for Gods sake. Treat everyone with the respect you want to be treated with. THE GOLDEN RULE!!
Regarding JS violence; could be a reason for the divorce (from Marie).
I recall reading about a year ago that Crystal was not talking to JS, but don’t recall the ‘alleged’ reason. Anyone know about it?
I will see you all a little later. Dinner time
Jason,
Marie, according to the court records, sought a restraining order against Johnny. So did his uncle (who Marie also dated). I don’t know anything about Crystal & JS not talking….he was certainly with her at the tent site when Haleigh went missing. I’d really like to know if he knew about the warrant served on his daughter. Apparently he did time in jail for unpaid child support.
LFJ… Thank you I couldn’t believe the comments. I can’t wait to listen to the show later tonight.
Krissy said,in March 7th, 2010 at 4:02 pm People that look with fault in everyone are usually unhappy with themselves, and have no life. Do not ever address me again. I am done with your nonsense!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Krissy, you have to learn to ignore a few on evry forum, they are so miserable or bored in their own lives, that that feel the need to cause disruption everywhere. Just blow them off and you’ll be fine. I enjoy your insight and it’s not like we didn’t already know that most of the players in this case have problems, severe problems and mental issues IMO
Listening to the radio show,the woman on TJ’s tape might be in a booking from 2007,same last name,different first name,but charges of prostitution and giving false name to LE.
Was Marie’s ‘grow house’ really Marie AND John Sheffield’s?
AnneInTn said JS was offered, and took an early retirement after animal fighting conviction.
JS was involved in an illegal activity while working in LE. Possible that one or more of his co-workers knew about it, before he was arrested; could even be that others in LE were involved in it with him.
Just One… Thank you, I thought it was just me but I went back and read me attacked everyone the minute their post hit. I am still a little shocked!!
WinterRose said,in March 7th, 2010 at 4:47 pm Listening to the radio show,the woman on TJ’s tape might be in a booking from 2007,same last name,different first name,but charges of prostitution and giving false name to LE.
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Thanks for the info WR2B
LE should have had a psychological profile of John Sheffield, so why was he even employed in the field?
They didn’t screen him? Why was he employed in LE? Did his buddies get him in?
Krissy said,in March 7th, 2010 at 4:50 pm Just One… Thank you, I thought it was just me but I went back and read me attacked everyone the minute their post hit. I am still a little shocked!!
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Same here, mc2 attacks every post I type. I could post I let the cat out and she’d attack that too. Best to ignore them or laugh at the silliness of it all. Too bad it has to be on a forum for a sweet missing child.
Beautiful,
I read your posts from yesterday, and want to say ‘thanks’ for clarifying what I meant.
If the woman is saying a “ring”,reminds me of the connections of how Misty met up with AB and naynay in the first place and w/Lindsey.Was Misty cruising w/WBG as her bf or how was his connection with the girls & according to NayNay,Lindsey was in the Mex house for a certain purpose.Lindsey by the way was 17,a minor,also,so that’s a whole other thing.NayNay admitted actually on video that her and WBG were involved w/a minor in a house for illegal purpose and never said anything to LE.Whoop!I don’t think WBG was the bf for the weekend.KWIM Kind of interesting seeing someone clip money under the bra strap.
Hey Just one,are you on twitter,also?Send me a request.
WinterRose said,in March 7th, 2010 at 5:01 pm Hey Just one,are you on twitter,also?Send me a request
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Not yet, but will start an account soon and send you a request. Thanks!
methinks, yesterday I understood that you really do understand the seriousness of PS, as you worked in geriatrics, as young as age 16.
Beautiful did a better job explaining what I meant, than I did; please know that I appreciate your words. THANKS.
Wow,the show stopped,I can only listen,I won’t get on chat,it sets off virus scanner alarms.I don’t think there’s a virus,just maybe the program settings or something.I’m not taking a chance,though.
Karon, I apologize for not understanding that you were joking, in a kind, fun way, and were not being mean at all.
I am so sorry – there really was cross-communication there, as someone else pointed out.
Yes, it did seem totally out of character for you; I erred by concluding mean-spiritedness, even though all of your previous posts were far from that!
A light bulb has lit up; I need to remember that when I’m not sure about the real meaning -it is better to ask for clarification, instead of assuming the worst.
Me, if she asked for a restraining order, very possible she asked for the divorce.
Was the ‘grow house’ while JS and Marie were married?
Jason said,
in March 7th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Was the ‘grow house’ while JS and Marie were married?
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no
Vaq, do you have a year for the divorce, and can you tell me the year of Marie’s arrest on the drug charge(s)?
Jason said,
in March 7th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Regarding JS violence; could be a reason for the divorce (from Marie).
I recall reading about a year ago that Crystal was not talking to JS, but don’t recall the ‘alleged’ reason. Anyone know about it
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yes. It was talked about on one of BNN’s shows last summer/fall, it was right before Johnny’s abrupt move to KY. it was said that Kim told Crystal if she were to go after custody of Jr that Connie/Johnny would go after custody.
drug case
UCN: 541997CF001301XXAXMX
File Date: 1997-07-28 Judge: WILLIAM A PARSONS
Defense Atty: CLARK, RONALD E
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, NANCY MARIE
Alias
Date # Docket Description
1997-07-28 1 ARREST REPORT – POSSESSION OF CANNABIS, POSSESSION WITN
1997-07-28 1 INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING,
1997-07-28 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
1997-07-28 1 BOND SET AT $3,016.
1997-07-28 2 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
1997-07-28 3 APPEARANCE BOND – (UNSECURED)
1997-07-28 4 DEFENDANT’S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS
1997-08-11 5 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY RONALD E. CLARK & PLEA
1997-08-11 6 DEMAND FOR DISCOVERY
1997-09-29 7 INFORMATION (UNLAWFUL POSS. W/INTENT TO SELL OR
1997-09-29 7 DELIVER A CONT. SUBSTANCE, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING)
1997-10-01 8 ORDER SETTING PRE-TRIAL 11/25/97
1997-10-01 9 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 11/25/97
1997-10-01 10 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 11/25/97
1997-10-06 11 STATE’S NOTICE OF INTENT TO SEEK JUDGEMENT FOR COSTS OF
1997-10-06 11 INVESTIGATON AND PROSECUTION
1997-10-06 12 ANSWER TO NOTICE OF DISCOVERY, DEMAND FOR NOTICE OF
1997-10-06 12 INTENTION TO CLAIM ALIBI WITNESS LIST
1997-11-25 13 PRE-TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATTENDED BY COUNSEL,
1997-11-25 13 RONALD CLARK. CASE SET FOR PLEA DAY 12/11/97
1997-11-25 14 NOTICE GIVEN TO DEFT. 12/11/97
1997-11-25 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 12/11/97
1997-11-25 16 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 12/11/97
1997-12-11 17 PLEA MIN: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY, RONNIE CLARK.
1997-12-11 17 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD GUILTY A/C CT I AND II UNLAWFUL POSS
1997-12-11 17 W/INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER A CONT. SUB, MAINTAINING A
1997-12-11 17 DRUG DWELLING, ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5YRS AND OR $5000 FINE
1997-12-11 17 1YR AND OR $1000 FINE, PL ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, CASE
1997-12-11 17 SET FOR SENTENCING 1/27/98 STATE RECOMM. GUIDELINE SENTENCE
1997-12-11 17 IF NO PRIOR CONVICTIONS AND RECMM W/HOLD ADJ. STATE NOT
1997-12-11 17 TO FILE ADDITIONAL CHARGES.
1997-12-15 18 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 01/27/98
1997-12-15 19 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 01/27/98
1998-01-27 20 SCORESHEET FILED
1998-01-27 21 SENTENCING MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY RONALD CLARK.
1998-01-27 21 COURT WITHHELD ADJ. OF GUILT, ORDERED TO PAY $255 COURT COST
1998-01-27 21 AS TO CT. I SENTENCED TO 3YRS PROBATION, AS TO CT. II 1YRS
1998-01-27 21 PROBATION, RUN CONCURRENT WITH CT. I. TO PAY $25 COST OF
1998-01-27 21 SUPERVISION, TO COMPLETE OUT-IN PATIENT SUBSTANCE ABUSE
1998-01-27 21 COUNSELING AND TREATMENT IF NECESSARY AND PAY FOR ANY FEES
1998-01-27 21 OCCURED. TO PERFORM 50HRS. COMMUNITY SERVICE.
1998-01-27 22 ORDER WITHHOLDING ADJUDICATION OF GUILT AND PLACING
1998-01-27 22 DEFENDANT ON PROBATION – ENT MIN CIR CT BK276 PG662-665
1999-08-02 23 $22.69 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-06 24 $62.50 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-17 25 $37.19 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-23 26 $52.62 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
2000-03-13 27 ORDER OF MODIFICATION OF PROBATION
2000-03-13 27 ENT MIN CIR CT – BK. 319 PG. 73-74
2003-03-28 28 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/REQUEST FOR COPIES/NO MONIES SENT
2003-04-09 29 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/$7.00/REQUEST FOR COPIES OF J & S
2003-04-09 29 MAILED 04-15-2003
Just One – Actually we exchanged a couple of decent informational emails the other day.
I had hopes that things were improving.
But now seeing your comment at 4:54 today I see that you have no intention of trying to improve things.
There is a difference between “disagree” and “attack.” The short version is:
When I disagree. You don’t like it. And then you attack.
I think that’s the problem here a lot of the time. Some people interpret a disagreement as an attack. Or they just won’t let others have a different opinion. Sometimes campaigns are mounted to try to silence people with different opinions.
That’s not what this board is here for. It’s here for discussion. Specifically I’m here to discuss what may have happened to Haleigh. I don’t have the answer for that. I’d like to discuss it with people who have open minds about it. But all some people want to do is trash one or another person involved – or a blogger. Not interested in that.
What are you interested in? What are you here for? (Just askin’) TIA.
m2c♥ said,in March 7th, 2010 at 6:01 pm Just One – Actually we exchanged a couple of decent informational emails the other day.
I had hopes that things were improving.
But now seeing your comment at 4:54 today I see that you have no intention of trying to improve things.
There is a difference between “disagree” and “attack.” The short version is:
When I disagree. You don’t like it. And then you attack.
I think that’s the problem here a lot of the time. Some people interpret a disagreement as an attack. Or they just won’t let others have a different opinion. Sometimes campaigns are mounted to try to silence people with different opinions.
That’s not what this board is here for. It’s here for discussion. Specifically I’m here to discuss what may have happened to Haleigh. I don’t have the answer for that. I’d like to discuss it with people who have open minds about it. But all some people want to do is trash one or another person involved – or a blogger. Not interested in that.
What are you interested in? What are you here for? (Just askin’) TIA
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First of all, I’m not involved in any campaign to silence anyone, I want the truth and let the chips fall where they may.
Second, I have never exchanged an email with you, maybe you are confusing me with someone else.
THANKS, Vaq; great reference that I’ll copy into Word.
Jason…. glad I could help… Karon, I hope you understood what I was trying to do, and I did NOT mean any offense what-so-ever by using “naive” in that post!!!
Unless HaLeigh is brought home or found soon,hopefully end of this month,we’ll have something new to talk about.That is unless there’s some deals cut before then,that will be interesting.
Hi, Beautiful, it sometimes seems harder to get the real jest of a conversation when communicating online (reason for the discourse here now and then).
Just one – Sorry, I mis-wrote. I did not mean email. I don’t email anyone here. I meant “exchanged comments.” We exchanged some nice informational ones the other day.
Sorry. I have to admit I was a bit shaken by your attack out of the blue at 4:54. I really don’t understand people who take every opportunity to continue ill-will, build on it, and not only vent their hostility but attempt to get others “on board” with them.
Hi Jason… I totally agree! And even more so when two people don’t truly know one another.
It is also made more difficult when people hold grudges or decide certain people are “enemies” because they have different opinions or disagree. Then they look at every comment from that person with mud-colored glasses. There is no way to be able to truly communicate with that kind of constantly hostile attitude.
I’ve disagreed with a number of people on this blog. When we’re at an impasse we agree to disagree and still talk with respect to each other. And we’ve often found other things we do agree on. I wish it could be that way with everyone. But it only works with people who are reasonably mature, not vengeful or spiteful, and who are willing to let others have different points of view.
Night all. See you another time!
Prayers for Haleigh.
winter rose,Earlier you mentioned that during the show, you logged in and warnings flashed. That happens to me every time I try to chat during the show, so I won’t try it again either…what causes that, do you know???
Jason, I’m glad you understand now that I honestly didn’t mean what I said the way it sounded…I truely do understand about caring for your loved one. Man, I found myself in tears, I felt so bad! I hope things are better for you and your family, and my thoughts and prayers will certainly include you for awhile and then some.
Hey methinks,I’ve never been able to be in the chat.When we first started getting these shows with this case,I got those,so I never tried anymore.I don’t want to lose my computer. 🙂
goodnight…
Jason and Cent:
I am just sorry that I came across wrong, but I am thankful that Jason forgives me and understands that I wasn’t trying to be mean. I really admire him, and I can understand why this would be a sore subject, for him.
Karon, I knew you weren’t being mean, it’s not your spirit!! Jason recognizes that too, by your posts… you are/have always been caring and kind!! Now I am H*A*P*P*Y
I have looked for yall all day!!!!!!
Karon,we have all been extra sensitive lately,thers no way you’d have said it to be outright mean! I have said worse,lol
We have accused others who attacked us,lol or been hateful to them b/c they were with us,Don’t worry bout it long as Jason knows you mrant no harm!
It took me by shock too M2 but i also knew she would never have done it to be mean!Its just our emotions and frustration day after day!
Jason said,in March 7th, 2010 at 5:25 pm Karon, I apologize for not understanding that you were joking, in a kind, fun way, and were not being mean at all.
I am so sorry – there really was cross-communication there, as someone else pointed out.
Yes, it did seem totally out of character for you; I
**********I remember Jason that you said you were surprised by it,lol we all knew it wasn’t really her!
vaquera said,in March 7th, 2010 at 2:14 pm just to clear up something Johnny fought cocks not dogs. In fact, on feb. 5 right before Haleigh went missing he posted on his myspace that he was going to a cock fight.Since his myspace is now private you can’t see it.
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Just as bad,imo!
shux,lst yas again,lol bbib
Hi CathyJoe:
I have been taking a rest from posting. I think we all tend to get cross when we stay on here for too many hours day after day. People aren’t geared to see eye to eye, for very long, while dealing with something as frustrating as this Haleigh Case. Sooner or later, someone is going to hit us the wrong way.
I think I can come back, now, refreshed and ready to post again.
I know what ya mean Karon,boy do I!
I don’t think theres one of us here who hasn’t made that same mistake Karon…I wanted to apologize for you b/c i knew it was so unlike you but I couldn’t!
CathyJo:
Hi! Did you get to hear the show, today? It was good, but I couldn’t understand those tapes that T.J. played. Maybe, I will be able to understand them better when they get them cleaned up.
No I haven’t Karon,i spent the day with Dakota yesterday and wasn’t on but a few and took him home this evening and caught up on some work i needed to do and i finally got my audio fixed so I was getting ready too listen when i saw you were here!
You have me more curious though now,you said it was good! LoL
T.J. said something today on the program that, I thought, was very unusual for him to do. He said that after seeing the tapes that he presented, today, and the Nay Nay tape with Cobra, and the drug arrests, he was beginning to believe that this was an accidental death from drug overdose.
OMG Really?
I hope it shows up,Karon i posted 3 times but they havent showed up yet?????? hmm
I wish Cobra would come back and tell us something about those tapes that T.J. played, today. I miss him. These tapes were interviews that were done by Cobra. I think the name of the woman he interviewed was named Barbara, but I can’t remember her last name, now.
I see that post!
TG!
Hmmm,I wonder what swayed him?
ohhhh,I like Cobra alot,i really do,always have!
Haven’t you heard his tapes on this??
Actually ppl with throw rocks at me but i do think Cobra is honest!!
It took awhile for my post to go thru, too. I wonder where HGM is? I saw Cent on here earlier while I was lurking, but there was too much arguing, so I just lurked.
I missed it i think,lol hard to tell when ppl are arguing now cuz we all stay aggravated,lol
For the most part tho we could be worse,I think we all know each other prtty well by now!
Cobra really knew the beginning of this case, better than anyone, I think. He spent alot of time with the actual players on this case.
The tapes T.J. played, today, were new one that haven’t been played before.
ahhhhhhhh? WOW,I am going to have to listen now!
I will when someone comes in to chat with ya b/c i don’t have enough memory to play audio and multitask,lol crazy,I just had memory added to it about 6 months ago but i collect pennies and scan lots of pix of em’ so it takes alot of memory up!
You have a point, LOL, about not knowing whether they are arguing, or not. It is just another day on the blog. People see things differently, and they seem to feel strongly about it. Most of the time, people get over things, however.
collect is the wrong word,I am just into error coin’s! I cherrypick’ em!
If you need to go, that’s O.K.
Right Karon,I do….i might feel foolish at first but then after i think about it here i come,lol
nahhhhhhhh,I am fine,that tape will be there longer than we will,lol
Actually,I think Cobra got run outta town b/c he was doing what no one else would!
I listened to the Levi Page show, tonight, also. I like his guests on his show. Do you ever watch him?
I cried for him..honest I did,when he was saying wwhat it costed him in his personal life!!Heck atleast by granny he was looking for her!!
Never have but I have heard about it! Does sound interesting!
Some ppl don’t like certain ones on the case but how i feel about that is,we don’t know whose right till we get the truth…”someday” so
until then I am willing to listen to everybody just like we hear different theories here,ya know?
I like Pat Brown and some of the lawyers and prosecutors on his show. They had a small segment on the Heligh case, tonight.
I just can’t wait till the end and hear the truth and get Justice for Haleigh whatever that justice is….for kidnap or anything else!
None of us know the whole story, yet. That is why I haven’t made up my mind, yet. I have always felt it very likely was a drug over-dose or Cousin Joe. I really haven’t thought Tommy was a likely killer, but we are sometimes surprised. I could see a number of people in on the cover-up, however, including some broken-hearted grandmas.
Theres so many twists and turns,I never thought thered be another case as confusing as Caylee’s,but we all for the most part agree who did that but here it’s forever changing!
Cobra has suffered alot because of this case, and I am sorry for him, too. I just always could see Cobra’s heart, somehow.
Right Karon,and today i even thought…it doesn’t seem Tommy would do that but then i wonder what if Misty did accidently,would he help,maybe…..then i wonder if maybe he came over that night to check on Misty b/c Ron kept calling and maybe saw Misty had accidently done something and helped cover it up! I just dunno!
Yeah, the Caylee case was heart-breaking, but we all had that one figured out, pretty fast. It was unbelievable.
Me too,most guys won’t show emotion,in public anyway but myself i have always always thought it takes a MAN TO CRY!and when i heard that O Lord it broke me down!
Even without Bozo it was a circus but with him too,OMG!
Tommy always seemed so crazy about Misty, and I always thought both of her brothers would have helped her. Keeping it quiet with all of their drug use is surprising, however. If Ron thought Haleigh got into their drugs, I can see him going along with a cover-up, also.
There are so many possibilities of what could have happened. It was a set-up for disaster
i have wondered why he would if it turns out he did?? And i would be shocked but ya just never know,the tattoo on Misty is what bugs me about that! I mean if Ron didn’t even know she did it,why would he let her put his name on him in fear that when the truth came out,ya know,I know it sounds crazy but i take marriage and tattoos very seriously!
Lemme tell ya Karon,I went to the cherokee biker ralley i guess 4 yrs ago and my bf at the time told me he’d get me drunk and get his name on me,believe me i never drunk one drop the whole entire weekend just because of that!
Which I never was much of a drinker,i think my last drink was about a yr after i got off the pills and weed!woke up with a blackeye,never had a blackeye in my life,scared me straight! Still dunno today how it happened!
I don’t want anyone’s name on me. I am too independent, I suppose. I am married, but I don’t want a name tattooed on my skin. That would seem too much like slavery.
Yea Karon,i read a transcript somewhere where n/g asked her why her brother would throw her under the bus and she said,my familys that way!
Me either Karon,to each his own but not for me,I thought about an in memory of Johnny tat but nah backed out,he didn’t like em either!
my nephew in Indiana does tats but not me.he gives them to family,lol
Yeah, you can probably see how Misty could have passed out and woke up to the tragedy of Haleigh being dead or missing. I still believe Ron and Misty know what happened to Haleigh, however. At least, they have a good idea.
Lrd yea,theyre sommin going on there!
Hey Karon…about TJ’s tape…
It will be interesting to see where that goes. I could not understand most of it, but I understood enough to think those tapes could mean something. I want to see over the next few days or so if he gets word from “anyone” that he should not release those tapes. Remember, he said he had turned them over to LE and they took no interest. They didn’t say yes they might be something or no they are not important. They didn’t respond either way.
So I wonder if they will respond one way or the other now that the tapes may be released.
Maybe thats why its so hard to figure out,cuz we just can’t see it but i have to be honest,I would have sworn they didn’t sell drugs and was framed,the uc tapes shocked me so…..
hmmm wow
I will be very surprised if the blanket and the van wasn’t a part of this case.
I have a sneaking feeling that someone has given LE something. It is just too quiet. LE, suddenly, stopped letting any of Ron’s tapes out, and that seems strange.
where do i hear this at,see what yall did? lol
Yessss I know Karon,its odd!! Too odd!
i’ll never doubt for a sec those blankets play a big ole huge part!!
Hi Cathartic:
I am glad you are back. I missed you. You are one of our best case workers. I do think these tapes are important. Maybe, after the drug arrests, and what Nay Nay said, before, it all is coming together. For T.J. to give an opinion, was definitely different.
I still wonder who Talent is b/c Misty convinced me inher own words that he is someone who SHOULD visit her!
thats it,I love you guys but i gotta go listen now!!!!!!!!!
Karon, what I find most telling about the tape he played today is that it was recorded almost a year ago. It’s not something that someone just decided to say as an after-thought to the drug arrests. I could not understand most of it but I clearly heard Misty mentioned. And something about Misty being in deep.
CathyJo:
You have heard Nay Nay’s tapes on Art Harris, a good while back. Then on the radio program, tonight, T.J. played some more tapes. T.J. said it was all kind of coming together for him, now. I just wish I could have understood them better, but they are going to clean them up and play them again. I wonder, though, if Cathartic isn’t right about LE putting a stop to T.J. releasing any more of them. I think he said there were six or seven of them. Do you remember, Cathartic?
Cathartic:
I could hear that part, too.
TJ said there are 7 tapes. He said they are all rough and hard to understand but he wants to try to clean them up and then release them. He also said he has considered that LE might suggest he not release them. And if they do, he won’t release them, but he would know then that they are taking the tapes seriously.
CathyJo:
Listen, carefully. You might hear something that we missed. You can tell us in the morning. Good night.
Cathartic:
It is important that they were made in the early days after Haleigh went missing. I believe this woman is telling the truth about alot of this. I could tell she didn’t like Misty.
What T.J. said about, it all was beginning to fit about the van being used and how it got so dirty, really, stood out, to me. I have always believed that the scratched van was important to this case. It was just too much co-incidence.
Even RC’s neighbors who were interviewed by LE were asked not to go public with anything. And from what I have seen, they haven’t. It’s odd that after all this time we have not heard anything that LE has by way of evidence. Can we assume they have none? That would be foolish, imo.
Most cases are solved by interviewing people who may have known things, or heard things, or seen things. Even little bits of seemingly insignificant information usually come together to form a whole picture. I bet LE has gotten tidbits here and there, and I can’t help but think the people interviewed by Cobra not so long after Haleigh went missing have said relevant things. Maybe they didn’t now how relevant, until all pieces are put together.
Those tapes are important, imo. How can they not be? They are the words of people involved in the lives of the players here. There has to have been something said at some point, that is useful. IMO.
That is right. At the first of the case, neighbors were saying some things, then, they just got quiet. LE knows alot more than they are telling. If they had let too much out, they wouldn’t have them all sitting, squirming and worrying, in jail, right now. They weren’t so dumb after all. I think it is telling, also, that these arrests were made right after Misty’s 18th birthday.
I have always thought she was taken from the home in that van. I do not know, based on photos of the exterior of the MH, if a van could be backed up to that back door easily, and also not noticed by neighbors. So, if it was easy to do, they backed the van up. But more likely, they parked the van in some woodsy area nearby, and that’s how it got scratched.
I was still not giving up on the idea of stranger abduction, that Misty left and someone then took advantage of an opportunity. But after listening to that tape, I am not giving much weight to stranger abduction anymore. I now believe the child was drugged, purposely or accidentally.
Oh, there is no doubt in my mind LE waited specifically for her to turn 18. I never doubted that for a minute. I think LE got their tip long ago, and they watched and waited til the time was right.
Cobra knows alot of things that he has never told, because LE asked him not to tell. I would love to know everything that T.J., Cobra, and Simon know. Cobra said he had the background of that 9-1-1 call enhanced and there were alot of things being said and alot of rushing around, slamming cabinet doors, and pushing buttons.
You know, the dogs tracked her to the railroad track, then stopped. I don’t know how far the railroad track is from the house. I wonder if they carried her out the backdoor, and went past the water, and someone was waiting at the RR track. A man could carry her a good distance. That would have kept the neighbors from seeing them.
I would like to hear Cobra’s enhanced 911 call. I like to hear the spoken word, not read it in a typed transcript. I have seen transcripts that were inaccurate; they are only a transcriptionist’s interpretation.
I used to transcribe tapes of legal proceedings, hearings, depositions. And I’ll tell ya…verbatim is what they got from me. I would listen over and over to any portion that was muffled or unclear. I would use [inaudible] if it was in fact inaudible, rather than just type in what “sounded” right.
I prefer video and audio tapes over written documents. For me, it has to come right from the horse’s mouth before I believe it 100 percent.
What did you think of Donna Brock’s tape, saying she was innocent and she was one of the good guys? I wonder if she may have turned them in, and all of this fighting between DB and TM may been staged. She seemed so happy when she was going before the judge in that first video.
The RR tracks are not far from the MH.
Yes, and you can pick up alot from listening to people’s voices and the way they say things. After this case is settled, we may be able to hear all of those tapes and evidence. That would really be something.
Donna Brock’s involvement in any of this is just plain weird. The road rage incident, the drugs, and the fact that Misty and Ron accepted her into their circle, especially once they knew she had been hired by TM to snitch on Misty. I mean, her being involved in any of it is just odd all the way around. But I do not think she’s one of the good guys. I think she would be out of jail if that were the case.
I could understand Misty’s bond with DB, but I don’t understand Ronald allowing her into their circle. For Misty, Donna might have been sort of a mother figure…took her shopping, talked with her, did things Misty’s mother probably never did for her. So, Misty getting close to Donna I can understand, but once she was exposed as a snitch, it’s weird they didn’t kick DB to the curb.
They said the dogs went straight to the water, then veered off, but stopped at the RR track. Since, it isn’t far, I think that may have happened. If that is what happened, they were probably frantic and moving fast.
True, the van could have been scratched elsewhere, like where they took her. I think they put her in a river and if so she will never be found.
I can’t even tell you how much it hurts me to type that.
I think the answer is drug buddies. She probably talked her way out of the informant issue, because she was popping pills with them and supplying them with drugs. Therefore, they believed her. She may have told them that she was just playing along with LE but had no intention of telling them anything. That is the only reason, I can think of, that they would have accepted her back.
I suppose so. And once TM denounced her publicly, they accepted her.
Yes. That is so hurtful. I have lived in Florida, before, so I know what most likely happened. No wonder Ron was throwing up the next morning, if he knew that. Of course, we don’t know anything for sure, but things really seem to be fitting together.
What a tangled web we weave! If they had just been honest about whatever happened, they would have served less time, most likey.
Yep, accident is manslaughter, not murder. And the sentence is way less than their drug busts will bring. Misty being a minor at the time, probably would have been given quite a bit of leniency.
I’ll say this: If she is not involved in any of it, other than having left the kids alone or having been so out of it she slept through it all, I would like to see her given a second chance on the drug charges. Maybe reduced charges to eliminate the “mandatory minimum” so a judge could sentence her fairly.
It’s just so hard to believe that she is not involved at least in the cover-up. I mean, if she knew nothing, but since has learned something and is not telling what she has learned, I want her to do some heavy time. This is about an innocent child, and we need to come down hard on those who put kids’ lives in jeopardy.
I still think they will roll over on each other. I think it may be sinking into them, now, that they are not going home. Misty seems to be settling in with her lawyer, and she seems to be accepting that she will be there for awhile.
As far as no tapes from Ronald, he is in a different facility. They might be overwhelmed and understaffed for all we know. Or, maybe he has decided not to have visitors anymore and to have contact only by mail in order to avoid being recorded.
Just the money and time they have cost LE and kept them after this case for a year, if they knew something, is really bad. I am glad I don’t have to set on a jury in this case, if they knew anything.
I think it hurts Ronald to see his mother crying like she is. He may be using, they will be taped, as an excuse for not having visitors.
I have a hard time feeling sorry for TN. I did for a while but after I saw the video where she lured Cobra into the woods, I lost all respect for her. You just don’t do people like that!
My computer is showing my batter has been unplugged. I am having some problems. I am plugged in, so I am not sure what is going on.
Maybe it came unplugged at the wall?
She really did seem sneaky on that tape and running off without saying anything. I wondered if something didn’t go off like she planned, there. It was strange. I don’t know what to think about her, anymore.
I checked, and it seems to be plugged in, O.K. I don’t know what the problem is. I just got this computer at Christmas, so it is under warranty, if I start having problems.
She was crying, telling him she had been searching that area for four hours.
But…she was wearing flip-flops.
I think it was a set-up, and whoever he supposed to run into there, didn’t show. Maybe because his son was with him, and they thought he would come alone?
Something is just not right about TN, imo. You would think the grandmother of a missing child would not be up to shenanigans.
TN got there awfully quick that night. I think she might know more than she is letting on.
Is the outlet operated by a wall switch? Some of my outlets are and I have had my comp plugged into one, and the switch was off without me knowing. Just a suggestion.
I have never understood all of thes NG appearances where they wouldn’t tell NG anything. Was that just to keep people thinking they were trying to find Haleigh?
Yep, TN was (apparently) awakened by the phone, put on some clothes, drove the 12-15 miles to the MH, all in 5 minutes.
She said she arrived at the MH at 3:30 AM. She said Ron called her while Misty was on with 911. But 911 was called at 3:27, so how could TN go from sleeping to being at the MH by 3:30????
No. It may have not been plugged in tight enough, though. My unplugged battery signal is still on, but my computer is working O.K., now. I jiggled the plug around. Maybe the battery signal will go off when I turn the machine off.
You mean that LE wouldn’t tell her anything?
LE often does not tell anyone anything, even the family. Sometimes they have to do things with 100% confidentiality. It is too easy for info to leak otherwise, even by a family member who means no harm. Things slip out even unintentionally.
My daughter was harmed by an unknown perp (she to this day does not remember the incident) and LE would tell me nothing. It was 10 years ago and I still cannot get a copy of the police report that is not about 80% blacked out. And it is not even an active case anymore.
OH, I see what you meant. That they wouldn’t tell NG anything. OK, gotcha.
Yes, and GGSykes didn’t answer the first time Ron tried to call her that night. She said she missed the call, somehow, but TN called her a little while later, and she answered. LE probably have the phone records and know when everyone made calls.
Is your daughter O.K., now? That is awful, and to not tell you anything is unspeakably horrible. A mother has a right to know, especially, after all this time.
I am going to have to turn in because I am getting to sleepy to think, but I enjoyed talking about the case with you. I like posting at night, so much better. I hate the bickering during the day.
No, she is not OK. She has a severe brain injury. She was in a trauma and life support center, not expected to live. She remembers nothing from about 3 days prior to the injury.
LE was wonderful in the beginning. The detective talked to me, asked me questions, etc. But two days after the incident, he called to tell me her apartment was being released that day and I could go in. From that moment on, his demeanor changed totally. It was like he had multiple personalities.
I took all the info I had to a former BF who was a former cop. He had worked a lot in forensics. I asked him why I would not be allowed to have the police report. He said those are public and anyone can have it, but they don’t make them public in “sensitive” cases. So he went with me to the police dept. and we filled out a request for the report. The woman at the desk was all nice, smiley, polite. She took my application and said, “It will just be a moment.” Then she pulled up the case on the computer, turned and looked at me really oddly, then made a phone call.
She came back and said the report could not be released.
The case was never solved. I found a set of keys on the floor in her apartment. They did not fit any doors or her car. The police did not want the keys; they basically told me to go away.
So, I believe they know who the perp was, and decided to cover. That goes on a lot around here.
OK, was nice talking with you. Sleep well.
Oh my goodness. That is strange that they didn’t want the keys. Something is really off, in that situation.
I am so sorry about your daughter. That is so sad.
Good night.
Well, it is one of the reasons I went online looking for forums about Haleigh. I was thinking maybe the case was not being investigated. Because it happens too often.
Good night, Karon. I won’t be posting when the mean people are on, but I may be here late at night.
Cathartic, I am praying for your daughter!!
I am wondering if it is indeed possible for Misty to be guilty, Ron innocent of any wrong doing and still be able to remain in each other’s life, the way they were/are??
I don’t think so, BA. I mean, he’s a creep, imo, but could a father really be around anyone involved in his daughter’s disappearance? I don’t think even RC is that cold. And, imo, if she was involved, he would know about it. Maybe not immediately, but he would have found out. He may not be the perp but he is not innocent of any wrongdoing, imo. I just can’t see him letting anyone slide on hurting his baby girl. So, imo, either he is involved in some way, or she is not involved in any way.
Cathartic, yes that’s what I’m saying. I lean towards them being involved indirectly and being responsible because of poor choices they’ve made, or cover-up!!
cathyjo63, “Talent”, I came across in searching different info on who everyone was. If I remember right he is a friend of MC’s dad. He is 41 yrs. old, I do remember that. I thought it was odd that she would be asking her dad about someone who is 41 yrs. old visiting her. I wish I would have wrote his first name down, now. I am thinking it was “Frank” for some reason. I even saw a picture of him on the arrest report and I believe it was for drugs. I will let you know when I find it, again.
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