A new petition has been started to prevent the Anthony’s from making any money off a movie deal for the case of missing Caylee Anthony. It has been rumored that Lifetime is offering the Anthony’s $2 million for the movie rights. This petition is to keep that from happening.
You can find the petition at a website called “Lifetime Should Not Pay for a Movie About Caylee Anthonyâ€
On the website it states, “We the undersigned will not stand for any media outlet buying the Casey Anthony story from the Anthony family before the full conclusion of this case and Caylee is brought home.†The goal for the petition is to collect 10,00 signatures. They already have more than 1000 names signed, with some leaving messages along with their signatures.
One signed it from South Carolina saying, “The money should go to the Texas EquaSearch foundation to help find missing children.†I think this would be a good idea especially after the foundation did spend a lot of money searching for Caylee.
Another petitioner wrote that no one should profit from a murder.
I agree with the petitioners that are signing this petition. It wouldn’t be right for the Anthony’s to make a profit on Caylee’s disappearance. I don’t know their financial situation right now but they shouldn’t be allowed to make money by selling this story. If they think protesters are bad now, I would hate to see the publics response if they do.
Today more documents and interviews were released to the public. According to the documents instant messages was sent to the former sheriff’s deputy, that was fired because he lied about his relationship with Casey. In the messages Casey complains about how hard it is to be a single mother and she once even referred to Caylee as the “little snot head.†She went on to write, “Seriously, spending the day with Caylee, is 10 times more exhausting than working a 12–hour event.â€
Now as a mother of two boys I can relate to the feeling of it being very exhausting raising kids but I know beyond any doubt that if one of my kids was missing for even five minutes, I would be freaking out. I certainly wouldn’t be out partying with friends acting like I didn’t have a problem in the world.
I seriously doubt the truth about what really happened to Caylee will ever come out whether by some miracle that she is alive or if she is in heaven now. My theory is that if she is alive, Casey and her fancy lawyer that she can’t really afford will come up with a clever excuse to get Casey off the hook.
Either way though, in the public eye Casey Anthony nor her parents will ever be able to lead normal lives again. I would much prefer for them to be hated by the public for causing all this chaos and worry only to find Caylee alive and well in a safe place hidden from the world rather than hated for being responsible for the death of this precious little angel. I suppose only time will tell.
In the meantime Caylee, where ever you are the world loves you and a lot of prayers are being said for you. God Bless You, honey.
Jan Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackThis petition is worthless. What legal weight does it carry? None. Want to know what will work? Find out who is offering the money, which media or publisher or movie producer is putting up the money and notify them – that company – that the petitioners will boycott their products – books, movies, TV stations, or whatever products any subsidiary companies owned by them produces, forever and a day. Money talks and they will listen. That will work. This current effort – certainly well intentioned – nonetheless is nothing other than feel good lip service. Do something that will get it done. Contact me and I’ll help get it off the ground. But this? Forget it. No time for folly.
I hope that the ANTs won’t be able to profit off of the demise of this sweet innocent little baby, Caylee… Thank you, Jan for another thoughtful article…
what is wrong with these people to even consider making a movie and even worse to give that amount of money to that family i can just see m now thinking of the great time she could have with it.why dont they take their 2million and use it to help find children that are missing or get the best private i to find out excactly what she has done with little caylee.
Movie? What a boring movie that would be, don’t you think? The “stars” going in and out of a house and the real STAR going in and out of her lawyer’s office , each day wearing different sunglasses.
Oh, I guess there would be shots of the Police Dept and lawyer’s offices, but again, boring stuff.
There would have to be plenty of warnings about “movie loosely based on actual events”, and even then, the story would be dumb.
Dumb just like the people living in that house and the ones that protect this woman who apparently killed her own child.
I have posted before that I feel this case will never be finished. Casey Anthony might go to prison, but not for murder. Lets hope that all the other “formal” complaints against her can add years to a jail term. Lets also hope that when she is in prison, she won’t be segregated from the other inmates. Let her be in the mix of degenerates like herself. She has been protected long enough and enjoyed enough notoriety. She is basking in this attention.
Its almost certain that a movie of the week will be made from this case. Almost no control over that. BUT, if any family member profits one penny from that movie, than they should be ostracized from the human race. They have done nothing to help find this child, yet they want to make money resulting from her probably murder. Shame on them.
But, if anyone is still waiting for Casey Anthony to confess to anything regarding the disappearance of her own child, then they have a lifetime of waiting.
This woman is Evil. She came in the form of a “loving” mother, her child trusted her. This is the worst kind of evil there is. She is even letting her own family suffer for what she did.
God help these people, they have dug a hole so deep in lies and denial, they can’t possibly ever go back to whatever “normal” life they had. And, lets face it, should they be allowed that luxury?
Oh Please…A movie is already being talked about? What is wrong with people today? Have a movie and glorify Casey(she seems to love getting attention) then other sicko drug and sex addicted moms can kill their children to become famous.
i agree with the one if a movie is made whatever one made it we should boycott any and everything to do with them. how horrible that we want a movie of this. that is what is wrong with out society we make movies from stradegy. if you make a movie make it on the illness and hard love facts not this poor baby and what may have happened. this is obviously an entire ill family. out of love we make our children face consequences for there choices (its called hard love)even if it means jail or physco ward. this whole situation makes me ill throw this whole family in jail as they dont deserve a life until they come clean and then be judged and sentenced. Im sorry and I ask for gods forgiveness for only he judges but this is just so heart breaking as there was other choices. there are plenty that would have loved to have that sweet innocent child. children are a gift from god not all can conceive its an honor to be given that opportunity as that means ou would chosen to help civilization to carry on. these people should be forever banned from the human race.
I can’t believe there are so many pathetic people out there in “Lala land” that would begrudge Cindy, George & Lee Anthony! I think you’re getting ahead of yourselves, aren’t you?
Personally, I doubt they are planning to do this, but if they did, it would probably be used for a good cause, because they DO NOT seem like the kind of people that would even entertain the idea of benefiting from something this horrific!!
WHY are so many still trying to crusify the grandparents? They have done NOTHING wrong!!
yes grantu8 there are many people out there in lala land,going to cinema getting their popcorn and snacks whom would want to see a so called movie like this and to line the pockets of a family that has protected a baby killer,and what sort of family are they potraying to the world they arnt even out searching for caylee, yes they have done NOTHING….FOR CAYLEE..
Grantu8 – The grandparents have never looked for the child alive or dead. When they got money from somewhere they promptly hired a high profile criminal defense attorney for themselves. This was at the same time that Cindy was claiming that the child was in Puerto Rico and the police were not doing enough to find her. Plenty of other family members of missing children would have used any money they had to beg, borrow or steal to get on a plane or hire a good private investigation firm to help look. But no. The Anthonys’ priority is to cover their adult butts and make it everyone else’s job to look for the child. In addition to blasting Tim Miller of EquuSearch whose own daughter went missing and was found dead they’ve blasted everyone else trying to help – because they aren’t doing what the Anthonys want. The Anthonys want to be in total control of this entire investigation obviously so that it turns out to their liking. Now Cindy is actively accusing two friends of her monster daughter of kidnapping the child. This family can’t seem to see the house size pumpkin right in their front yard! And while they may have been deserving of some excuse early on, not any more. They are clearly part of the problem and have never been part of the solution – which is to find Caylee. So no they do not deserve to make a dime off that poor child.
Oh and if you’re worried that the Anthonys don’t have enough money remember that “anonymous” paid for monster’s bail, someone paid for Baez to hire a PR firm and a couple of private investigators (who investigated the protesters at the house – not the whereabouts of the child) and someone paid for Cindy and George’s attorney and who got the money for the home videos shown on 20/20 ?
Obviously someone out there in the world is happily underwriting the Anthonys. Perhaps in the end they will get another big check along with a note congratulating them on getting away with it! I sure hope not.
I agree with LazarBel…the petition is worthless.
One would have to petition Nancy Grace, Padilla, Mark Fur…whatever, and the rest as well.
mytwocents, don’t forget the bodyguards who is paying them the ANT”S
Flower…I’d think that her attorney is paying the guards.
hi twocents i soo agree with everything u said above how can anyone agree to this money or one single penny to that family unless it was to help casey. exactly the same idea of a movie deal was put to the maddie mccann family and was rightly by the mccanns not even considerd for a momment but then they are out searching the world and making sure the world knows who maddie is and what she looks like.is the anthony family doing anything like this? we all no that answer its all about protecting their child killer daughter and making a few pounds along the way.
sorry i meant caylee above not casey sorry.
There are books written and movies made of all high profile cases for the same reason we are all reading everything we can about this case as the information is released. There is no question that there will be at least one book and movie made about the Caylee Marie Anthony case.
I’m sure Oxygen will also make a documentary of Casey Anthony for their series “Snapped” and that Tru TV and A&E will also do documentaries of this case. I’m sure the Anthony family won’t be paid a dime for these shows.
I also don’t believe that the family has to be paid for the rights to write a book or make a movie about a true crime case. With all the documents and pictures public record, a true crime writer like Ann Rule could attend the trial and write the book based on all the evidence released. Then a movie could be made from that book.
I believe there is a law that if someone is convicted of a crime they can’t profit from any book or movie.
There are many people who are or will be making money in the future of this tragic story. The Ants, the defense, the prosecutor(if/when homicide trial) all M’s friends thru paid interviews etc. etc. Frankly that does not bother me, these people did not do any harm to Caylee. I just want to see justice for Caylee and M hopefully in jail for a long, long time.
Also did anybody read that M apparently borrowed C’s Suv towards the end of June, after the pontiac became to pungent to drive.
C did not disclose that to LE. C has changed her story almost as often as M.
Found this article very interesting.
wftv.com/news/17567283/detail.html
Snookers, thanks to the link to the story about Cindy’s interview.
After reading Cindy’s interview, I think Baez may change his defense from the Nanny did it to Jesse and/or Amy did it.
In the police interrogation, Cindy is now saying she thinks Zanny is whoever Casey is with and she thinks Zanny may be Jesse or Amy.
I believe Baez might say Amy took Caylee to Puerto Rico and sold her or Jesse killed her and put the body in the trunk to frame Casey because he was jealous of Tony. He might use both scenarios to create reasonable doubt.
I doubt if a jury will buy it. The DNA and air test prove Caylee’s dead body was in Casey’s car and Jesse has been cleared by police because he told the truth, something none of the Anthonys have done.
Like Mother like Daughter. Cindy and Casey both lie. They both like to point the finger at someone else. They both see anyone who is cooperating with the police as the enemy.
Jesse is the enemy because he told the cops Casey deleted 300 pictures of Caylee off the Internet and that if she killed Caylee she’d hide the body in the playhouse. He also took and passed a polygraph and did his own investigation and shared it with police.
Lee, Cindy and George have been lying and covering up for Casey since the investigation began. They refused to take a polygraph, because they know their lies will be uncovered.
Cindy, George and Lee know Casey is a pathological liar and that she was not a good mother and that she murdered Caylee.
Cindy told a friend of Casey’s the night she found out Caylee was missing that she believed Casey was guilty of Caylee’s disappearance and didn’t care if she went to jail for the rest of her life as long as she got Caylee back.
All Cindy cared about was Caylee. Now she knows Caylee is gone, she’s lying for Casey so she won’t lose the only daughter she has.
Concerned,
M using C’s Suv towards the end of June makes no sense. And George chasing her but lost her.
Who dropped her off to pick up the Suv.
How did the Suv get back to the Ants house again. None of her friends mentioned picking her up at her house.
Did she actually ran out of gas in the Pontiac with dead Caylee still in the trunk and had to get another car to get Caylee. Maybe she stopped at Target to get heavy duty contractor bags.
M does not seem to be the kind for long walks.
LE must be holding back some other witness reports. Or maybe surveillance videos from Amscot.
I think Baez in his defense might throw both Anthonies under the bus. Especially Cindy.
Trying to drum up jury sympathy for the terrible mother M had and all the awful verbal abuse M had to suffer.
snookers I agree that BB might well throw C&G under the bus. They will not know what hit them especially after everything they have done to protect and stand up for monster. But Monster doesn’t care and neither will BB.
I just hope that C’s accusations don’t cause Amy and Jesse a lot of legal hassle or clouds of suspicion hanging over their heads for the rest of their lives.
By now LE gives as much credibilty to C and they do to M IMO. In other words “zilch”
It doesn’t make sense for C to make up a story about Monster using her car at the end of June.
What does it gain? Nothing but another vehicle for LE to examine for forensics!!
And I doubt her story because what excuse could M have given for needing to borrow her mother’s car? If anything happened to the car M usually drove George would be all over it getting it taken care of.
I believe the Suv borrowing is true. George said , he followed her in his car but she was driving very fast and he lost her. Said she probably knew he was following her.
Story actually came from George. Cindy’s reply:”. I donot know” to Melich
The suv story is in here too
orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey2708sep27,0,7275812.story
Cindy better get her story straight, cause she said in the bond hearing ,
” We have talked about her for 3 years”
Meaning Zanny. She also said “that monster has used her for, um, a year and a half.”
Now she is saying that Zanny is monsters personal friends.
Why not just come out and say that she never her of a woman named Zanny till June…
Damn these people…
I must be reading just bits and pieces. I read that George had tried to follow M but did not realize that M was driving C’s car.
I don’t know what difference it makes to the case really except that LE ought to examine Cindy’s car to see if there’s some evidence in it! 🙂
And thank you for the link!
Mytwocents,
Makes a difference IMO. Gave her wheels to get back to the pontiac at amscot and get something out of the trunk.
Hi everyone
Hi Catherine
Catherine did you hear about the petition?
Check Jans post above for details
I read where BH said the Orlando LE wanted to interview the girl BH had stay with monster in the Ant. house. The girl asked for immunity before she talks with the police. Did anyone here anything about this?
That’s right, Snookers. I’ve been wondering how she got around. I guess she used Tony’s car starting June 30th when he went on vacation. But just before that – when her car was at Amscot – we didn’t know what she was driving.
Catherine – I remember Padilla mentioning this on NG the night the Orlando cop and FBI person were flying out to interview him and his team. The gal was meeting with her lawyer right then.
I had not heard how it turned out. At the time I thought she might need to consult a lawyer before revealing something M said for fear of a lawsuit by M. But maybe M said something incriminating and Padilla’s gal did not report it promptly to the police or something. That’s the only thing off the top of my head that I can think she’d need immunity for.
allie,
Yes, I did hear about the petition. I think by the time the lawsuits saw piling up against the monster and the Ant’s there is not going to be a dime left except for the attorney’s fees.
The petition may not be enough but its a start.
Why should anyone profit money for a crime..
Now, I know Monster hasn’t been charged with a CRIME, But, it doesn’t look good for, the good mother, pretty face, until proven guilty, movie of the week, celebrity child killer, Monster.
mytwocents,
I wonder what she said to her that she would want immunity?
And that the nice things that I call her…
Also explains her raided (frozen)groceries from home and cloths when Tony picked her up at Amscot.
And explains no body in dumster at Amscot.
She would not have driven her stinky pontiac home for groceries. But how did the suv get back to the Ants house again.
Scott Peterson’s sister wrote about about Scott. Maybe LV will write the book or sign for the movie rights.
Catherine, Padilla mentioned the immunity for his female staff member on Nancy Grace. I’m sure she got it.
I don’t think Casey told the woman what happened to Caylee but I do think she may comments that were incriminating. The woman may have been concerned the cops would arrest her for not coming forward.
Dick did tell Nancy Grace that the woman guarding Casey told him that when Casey heard about the air test results on TV, she said:”There were a lot of people with access to that car. They can’t pin it on me.”
Does that sound like a murderer trying to cover her tracks or an innocent mother whose child was kidanpped by a mean old nanny?
Concerned,
An innocent person would not make a comment like that.
That remark is so typical of a sociopath. She showed no concern that her beautiful toddler was dead but only concern that they’d pin the murder on her.
Some Mother of the year huh Cindy?
I wondered if LV had gotten the money for the home videos that 20/20 showed. The parents adamently denied it was them. And since M can’t profit from a crime I thought they might get around that by having LV get the money instead. But more likely they weren’t worried about details like that and she has not been convicted yet so 20/20 surely could have paid M directly.
Where has LV been? Have not seen him in quite a while? Has anyone?
Maybe LV or LV’s girlfriend Mallory went to pick monster up from the Amscot and drop her back off. That could be the reason he did not want to take the poly test. Monster has a special bond with her brother.
Hi everyone!
Say, just out of curiosity, should we be talking about movie rights, franchises, and licensing on this blog or do we continue with the interviews and videos?
Mytwocents, I think the money from the 20/20 pictures went directly to the lawyers to pay Casey’s bills, thus Baez’s comment the Anthonys didn’t get a dime. They could justify the money by saying Casey took many of the pictures so she was just getting paid as the photographer, not profiting from the crime.
Baez bill must be enormous with Baez seeing Casey six hours a day and going over 600 pages of documents now and 200 away back and all the phone calls he makes and the body guards he pays. He could be charging $200 or more an hour. He’s not doing it for free.
It is difficult to look at each piece of evidence and determine that monster murdered Caylee.
When you weave the pieces together it becomes clear that monster mudered Caylee.
Sadly, many more will watch the movie than sign the petition.
Whoever makes money off of this murder will never enjoy it. That money has Caylee’s blood all over it.
CaC – I think you’re right. People (including me) just didn’t like the thought of M making a dime even if it did go straight to the PR firm, body guards or whatever. I wonder if Baez is still strictly pro bono or gets some cash when he can? Don’t suppose we’ll ever know.
But she hasn’t been convicted of anything so it’s not illegal for her to sell them or for the profits to benefit her. Not illegal just disgusting!
If the Anthony’s don’t write a book or do a movie, you can be sure the lawyers or police will.
If any money was paid sofar, I think it was paid in an account/trust administered by BB’s office or The Counts office on behalf of the ants and all the contract negotations handled by the attorneys also.
RV – The above article talks about both the petition and the newly released documents , interviews etc.
Oh…..just skimmed this one…sorry
C’s interview with the police proved to me that she is still not convinced that her daughter murdered Caylee. C. blames Jesse, and Amy for taking Caylee. When the police tell her Jesse does not have Caylee she says, well maybe Jesse gave her to somebody. I think a mental health professional needs to spend time with C. and help her to see that there is only one person who wanted Caylee dead, and her name is monster.
Carrie – You are SO right. An unhappy but necessary dose of reality!
Is this really about the Anthony saga or is it about film makers wrestling for the rights?
Yes, Carrie, you are right…most prime time TV shows are about crime.
Catherine at 5:01 Yes! Not only is C still not convinced she is frantically fighting it!
Desperately throwing out any and all even remote and impossible ideas so that it will not be her daughter. She cannot face that. And yes she needs some kind of help very badly for her own sake. I mean at this point (from what we see in the interviews and stuff) I think she’s actually making it worse for Monster. This fierce attitude of hers could backfire big time!
If Jesse wanted to harm Caylee he could have done it a long time ago. Jesse loved monster and Caylee. Monster calls Jesse when he leaves the police force. She asks him if he wanted to go to the beach for the week-end so she could cheer him up. Jesse would do anything for monster, but cover up a murder I don’t buy it.
That could be why monster told her mother not to trust Jesse because maybe monster did ask for his help, and he said no.
It is so hard for me to believe that anyone -especially a mother – can murder a child. Children are so precious and innocent and trusting.
In reading Casey’s text messages it is clear to see that “the little snothead” was an obstacle in Casey’s way of partying and sleeping with all of her lovers.
A friend of Casey’s told Nancy Grace Casey got angry every time Cindy said she wanted to adopt Caylee and then Casey could go party all she wanted. That would have solved her problems.
Then she wouldn’t have to worry about making excuses about a nanny that didn’t exist and could make all the booty calls and parties she wanted.
And Caylee would be alive today. Caylee was not a sociopath and could return her love so maybe Cindy would have been a better mother to Caylee.
Hi Ya’ll
Just did some more reading, made cupcakes for grandsons BD party and listening to newly released CD by David Gilmour of PinkFloyd which is EXCELLENT…
Will make a few comments before i sign off.
Catherine, excuse me please, but I thought I understood that Casey told Cindy to stay away from Jesse.
My interpretation was that perhaps Casey didn’t want Cindy “butting horns” with Jesse again and that perhaps Cindy took that as a warning about Jesse and not about herself.
Casey also told Jesse to stay away from her parents. She just didn’t want him telling them what she was really doing. She was lying to them as to where she was. They thought she was keeping Caylee from them, not knowing all this time Caylee was dead.
What shocked me was that Cindy admitted to the police that Casey had lied to her about where she was and that she now believed Zanny didn’t exit. That she was whatever friend she was staying with. That’s the opposite of what she kept telling the media.
The witnesses are banding together and the lies that monster told are falling apart, one by one. Slowly all the friends she thought she had think of her as a baby killer. She has no one left to use and abuse. When she heard her mother’s interview about “I don’t care about Casey” I just want Caylee that will eat her up inside. She will want to punish her mother for what she has always known, since Caylee was born.
CaC – I agree. In a way M was between a rock and a hard place. If she took her mother up on the offer to adopt Caylee or even just get temporary custody then of course she’d be branded a very very bad mother for abandoning her child. To avoid that she stayed and acted like a good mom.
I really think that a GOOD grandma would have said, “honey, we’ll support you and take care of Caylee while you (1) get your high school diploma (2) start taking some college courses and (3) get a part time job if you can. And then a GOOD grandma would have seen that she did exactly that. Instead C used adoption and custody to threaten M and make her look like a bad mother. I don’t see any real solid help coming from C. Unless she was so very impossibly blind to what M was really like and really doing.
why isnt any one even bringing up that florida has gator pits and the ocean.personally i think that would be the two easiest ways to get rid of a body if you lived in florida.I DONT THINK THE FAMILY SHOULD PROFIT IN ANY WAY!!!!!THEY ALL SHOULD BE REQUIRDED TO TAKE LIE DETECTOR TEST.
reasonable,
I think monster did not want Jesse and C. to get to a point where there differences from the past were put aside, and they now would band together to try and put this puzzle together. For some reason monster is painting Jesse as someone not to be trusted, when in fact we know that Jesse and monster spoke on the 24th of June about going to the beach. C. feds into monster’s mistrust of Jesse because she never liked him from day one. Jesse was the one person who loved monster unconditionally.
I’m sorry, but have ANY of you read the interview with the guy that impounded the car? The stench of death was so overwhelming, so potent, and the son Lee said, and the Anthony’s drove away in the car. The mother a NURSE, claimed and said it smells like there a da** body in the car, how would she know… NURSE hospital, schooling etc… The father, a ex police officer, gets in that car, with his wife and drives it to their home, and parks it in the garage… the mother and father roll the windows down trying to get rid of the smell of death… Casy already has a story together, oh, dad hit a squirrel, and it died,yup it was plastered right to the fron of the car… There was NO animal plastered to the front of the car, so WHY would she have to before the fact come up with an excuse for that horrid smell of death?? Because that child is dead, they all know it, they are just trying to cover something up. What I want to know is, what were they thinking to themselves and the smell of their dead grandaughter wafted through the air on the way home…What about the bag, that was removed from the car and then the guy remembers it in the morning, and runs out in his pajamas to find the bag, that had been removed from the trunk of the car?? He calls the police to tell them he can’t find the bag, and they inform him they already have it. They are all going down, and anyone foolish enough to just read posts and media bull, read their own words BEFORE they got lawyers. ead Caseys AIMs, calling her child, had to check on the kid… do you really want me to bring the little snot head along… ARE YOU KIDDING ME???
Perhaps selective perception is at work here.
I understood that she told Jesse that if her parents called him to ‘just stay out of it.’ No one, to my knowledge, ever mentioned Jesse had a clue about what Casey was actually doing.
In addition, what “friend” said she a baby killer. Am I missing a lot of stuff? Most statements that I read stated that if anything did happen to Caylee that more than likely it was an accident.
It would be easy for a twenty-something to assume that Cindy was always telling the truth since she is the mother and they really have no idea what life is about outside of wrapping their ‘wangers’ or ‘booties’ in red/white/blue cellophane and planning trips to destinations across the states and then some.
farrah,
Gators tend to go after things that are alive not dead decomposed animals or humans. I do live in Florida.
It’s interesting that every professional in the psychiatric field who has commented on this case has said Casey Anthony is not mentally ill. They say her behavior indicates she is a sociopath, and that sociopaths can be cold blooded killers since they can’t bond with anyone and they have no emotion or remorse.
Cindy Anthony is a registered nurse and she was quoted by a friend of Casey’s as calling her daughter a sociopath. That indicates to me that Cindy recognized that Casey was not capable of bonding with her or her daughter. She should have also known that sociopaths can kill and have no remorse and that anybody is in danger around Casey.
Yet she sleeps under the same roof with her night after night, even knowing there was a dead body in her car and it was most likely her granddaughter.
She is either in denial, gone off the deep end or doesn’t care. Maybe, now Caylee is gone, Cindy doesn’t care about her own life either.
Colleen,
As long as monster has her family rallying around her she will continue to spin her lies. The family needs to put her back into jail or have a face to face with her and tell that little lying baby killer they don’t believe one word she says. Then and only then when she is truly alone with her lies will she crack.
I agree with Catherine…what gator would want to eat something that smelled that bad?…or at least as bad as it is described.
Concerned,
I think when C. had a whiff of that car she knew there was foul play, but she went into denial mode.
I wonder if ‘wanger’ guy wore his red/white/blue cellophane to Bush Gardens on his trip to Washington D.C?
Oooops…hahah….(snort)!
Monser is just a shell of a human being. Inside is nothing but numero uno.
Grantu8: read the documents that have been released, watch the grandparents change their stories, watch the attention they seek in the news media, watch their part in antagonizing the already angered protestors, watch the excuses they make for Casey, notice they’ve hired a defense attorney when they already have a “spokesperson”, and then tell me……..they’ve done nothing wrong.
Wanger guy? Sorry don’t know who he is
Remember the photos of the ‘naked party?’ Some guy was there in plastic…Casey in a flag…wonder who that Hugh Hefner was?
Caylle hsAh,
Yes, sadly your right. They could have made things alot easier if they just left monster in jail. Why bring her into their home? Only one reason I can think of media attention. They are thinking how they can bring more drama into an up coming movie or book deal. How very sad to make money from their dead grandchild. Lacey Peterson’s mother wrote a book, and gave every cent to charity. Now that’s my definition of a loving mother.
reasonable,
Oh yes, how could I forget those phots’s. I wonder how their parents feel about their behavior?
Catherine, Casey is a sociopath. She will never crack. Sociopaths only tell the truth when it benefits them.
How would it benefit Casey to say ‘I murdered my daughter’ and take police to the body. She’d go to prison or get a lethal injection.
Like most cold blooded murderers, she believes if she lies to the police and then refuses to talk about it to the police, she will get off.
Casey is used to big strong men like brother, daddy, many lovers and now body guards and attorneys taking care of her. She loves it. She basks in the media attention like a movie star on the red carpet.
All that would end if she admitted guilt.
Heres how i see it Cindy never loved Casey and never wanted her, Casey was Daddys little girl and the only love she ever knew was from her father. When Casey had Caylee her mother Cindy fell in Love with Caylee and did every thing for her, Caylee was Cindys heart and soul and she loved that baby more than life its self, When Casey realized this she could not stand the fact that Caylee was getting so much love from Cindy, When all Casey ever knew from her was hate, Casey knew that she could use Caylee as a weapon to get what she wanted out of Cindy, Casey Murdered Caylee to hurt Cindy, Now Cindy has to protect Casey because she knows that Caylee was killed as pay back and its all her fault.
hi there people, hi catherine
There will come a time when even the best lawyer will tell monster she is going to the cement Holiday Inn. She knows the inmates are drawing straws to see who is going to take her out. If she cuts a deal for life w/o parole in solitary confinement she stills lives and breathes everyday. In her sick mind she wins.
reasonablevoice: your “wanger” comment made me snort too (heeeee….heeeeee…) I can’t quit laughing…
Between C and M, I think it is a toss up now as to whom has the most improbable stories.
M is getting some tough competition from Mom.
Melich surely must be pulling her hair out. First M and now C.
Looks like he is getting bald on top on the one pic.
sorry about last night my Inet went down ugh i’m getting off hughes net after contract is done
I found you
Hi Sabrina,
Being a good girl today?
Catherine I was about to disagree with you when you said the reason they brought her into their home was media attention. I was going to offer the alternative that they hoped to get the truth out of her. But then I remembered that M had already been bailed out and stayed at home with her parents and that sure didn’t work – unless she spun more lies that her parents have decided to believe as truth. So yes. Why on earth bring her home again? Unless part of her lies just string them along like “sorry. it’s still not safe to tell you where Caylee is but don’t worry I will one day!” I really and truly do not understand C & G at all at all! Except that in defending her they are subliminally defending themselves because they KNOW they contributed in a big big way to this tragedy.
snookers: too funny! You guys are on a roll tonight! lol.
Linda, you’re right.
I thought of something else. Casey only had three female friends since childhood and all three of them admitted she was a pathological liar, thief and they didn’t see much of her.
Yet, she had tons of lovers that she juggled, using “that little snothead” as an excuse not to see a lover when she already booked that night. She dated cops and party boys who liked sex, alcohol and pot.
snookers,
Your right, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Sabrina: I had hughesnet too and I too did not renew my contract a few months ago….they sucked! Anwyay…back to the story at hand…
catherine, always a good girl *WINK*
I hope Zanni is better after the auto accident…apparently she had tp spend the night in a Tampa hospital.
My 2 cents just saw your last post on the other blog, thanks.
if i lived in fl i would most definitely want to run into that monster
Casey is as Famous as Susan Smith she will always be known as a Baby Killer, She will Deny killing Caylee all the way to Death Row, When they Stick that Needle in her Arm she will say i did not kill Caylee and that would be her LAST LIE.
Catherine, I think cindy brought her home exactly for the added DRAMA. Cindy appears to be a drama queen herself, I’m supposing that’s where Casey learned it. Your right, Lacy’s mom DID give all the proceed’s to charity…..nice point to bring up!!
so is this the new spot or are we going to leave me out in the cold again?
caylee has stolen our heartsd, i know i feel the same way, hughes sucks big time, time limeted downloads, and if a storm is in the east you’ll get booted off grrr
does anyone know Casey’s myspace name?
has anyone looked at the site dedicated to Caylee?
http://www.respectance.com/caylee_anthony/memorial
It’s a memorial site that anyone can leave a message in for anyone who has passed away. It’s sad, but this specific web address is for little caylee.
do you think she would still log on to there after all of this has happened? Probably she would do something like that huh?
mytwocents,
Sadly, I think it is now coming down to how much money can I make from this tragedy. It’s has been over 14 weeks since C & G have seen Caylee their grieving process started July 16th. I don’t see C. or G. break down when Caylee’s name is mentioned anymore.
It is just about SHOW ME THE MONEY!
Linda, I agree with your earlier post, ” Casey Murdered Caylee to hurt Cindy, Now Cindy has to protect Casey because she knows that Caylee was killed as pay back and its all her fault.” And with your 6:00 post.
Not sure if M was a daddy’s girl. Maybe when she was a child. But from what I’ve read (and I admit I have not read every word available) I thought she and her dad had a very strained relationship in recent years. But if they’d had a close one when she was a child, and then she started showing the signs of a sociopath as a teen or young woman then that relationship could have changed for the worse.
reasonable,
LMAO I better send her a get well card.
catherine to sad you’re right i can’t understand how they can keep from crying, i wouldn’t have control over crying for my childs sake
Casey is on Facebook too. That’s where she met Tony Lazzaro (spelled?).
sHeStWiStEd: Please don’t ever feel left out.
We left several messages about some people moving to this article but at the time it was impossible to tell where most people would end up. At this point it looks like we’re going to be using this article to blog under this evening.
Usually we leave several very clear messages about where we’re moving. This was just an unusual circumstance where a new article was posted while we were still using an older one.
So don’t worry!
myt3wocents,
From what monster told her friends, she said she hated her father. I mean the man had a mini stroke and she says to her friend Amy “oh he’s fine” I don’t need to stay home to help my mother with him.
That was funny that Cindy admitted to cops that she didn’t believe Casey’s stories about Zanny the Nanny being in a car accident.
To the media, she said she would take a lie detector test to prove Zanny the nanny existed. She also said Casey would talk to the FBI.
Neither happened. Cindy is like Casey. Every time she opens her mouth, she lies.
catherine just goes to show how casey is, she could care less about her father much less her daughter
The money is already trolling in for BB. Read ,he is refusing interviews with local yocal media. Said he signed a contract for exclusive interviews only with one major media concern.
So when we see him being interviewed, we know who they are.
Catherine: You’re right. And the interview just released with Cindy was taped when? In July? And it’s been two more months and no change. So it very well could be about the money at this point.
It’s just so difficult to believe. We’re all having a hard enough time envisioning a mother killing a child but the grandparents’ behavior at this point is just the cherry on the icing.
Concerned,
Oh your right on with that statement.
LOL, that is rolling not trolling
stwiseED…there has been a lot of back biting going on in this blog and Jan made a post earler this morning addressing the problem…it’s not you…it’s a bullying technique to force people into agreeing with things that are absolutely ludicrous to people with both feet on the ground.
In case anyone missed it…here it is again:
Jan Barrett said,
in September 27th, 2008 at 10:05 am
OK After reading all that has been said in here I feel the need to once again add my comment here.
I have checked out all the names in here that has been posting and as far as I can see there is no one here posting under different names pretending to be someone else. We know this because we do see the real IP addresses.
A few weeks back,yes I did spot one but since I left a comment about it, it has not happened again. Hopefully this will clear up the mystery I saw mentioned about the same people posting under different names.
As for the comments being monitored in here, I monitor all the comments on Blogger News, not just for my own articles written. We do this to prevent foul language, off topic spam and other abuses.
Thanks,
Jan Barrett – BNN Editor
I think we should boycott any movies or books deals where the money doesn’t go to charity. BB is a disgrace to take money for himself for defending monster. He said, he was defending her pro bono. Sure you are tubby!
dak do you want a response to that comment ?
I think Lee deleted her mypsace page and now she’s using facebook. But not for sure on the myspace now, there are so many fake sites with her name on it now. It used to be under Casey.
snookers said,in September 27th, 2008 at 6:12 pm The money is already trolling in for BB. Read ,he is refusing interviews with local yocal media. Said he signed a contract for exclusive interviews only with one major media concern.
So when we see him being interviewed, we know who they are.”
Who would pay Baez to interview him. All he does is blow hot air. They should boycott him, not pay him.
He’s in it strictly for the money. Probably already bought himself a Mercedes and a new mansion. What a travesty to prey on a little girl’s murder.
LOL @ catherine too right girlfriend
to bad it’s saturday no new news for today
More blood money
News 13 attempted to set up an interview with Baez, but his representative said the attorney has an agreement with a national network to provide exclusive interviews through next week.
Do I want a response to what comment Sabrina.
Caylee has stolen America’s heart,
Just go onto Facebook and put in-Sex Crazed Man: looking for petite black hair, brown eyed sex kitten without any capacity to love anybody except themselves. I am sure Monster page will pop up.
In a nut shell Dak…do you are do you not think Casey should qualify for legal representation and should or should not the Anthonys allow a bunch of yocal yahoos to invade their neighborhood.
huh dak my dude woo ude ? nothing but love for you…why do you keep attacking me ? i’ve been trying to make amends , what’s up with you ?
Yes Casey does deserve and qualify for legal reprensentation and no the Anthony’s should not aloww local locos protesting in front of theor home and they shouldn’t have to put up with it.
Is there a fuch in the hen house?
Did you see how many escort websites monster had pulled up on her laptop. Hmmmmm. Easy money, flexable hours, great hourly rate, the kinkier the better. How perfect for monster.
I haveb\n’t attacked you Sabrina I barely talk to ya.
Fox
mytwocents- heheee i was just playing i know you all moved i was informed earlier i was just being a dork.
cayleehasstolen- thanks
i just wanted to be nosey and maybe see what her page would exactly look like. But owell i guess i won’t.
Is there any new news i totally missed ng last night due to work!
RV,
Am betting on Fox too. Guess that will be Greta.
I agree with dak i don’t think that anybody should protest out there i mean they know what is going on and that will not help the situation i think it will only make it worse!
so why are you talking to me now leave me alone i have tried to embrace you…go away
Thanks twisted glad to see there is more than one other person that agrres about the protesters.
Did anyone hear about some bones that were found by some psychic’s this past week.
too bad m isn’t speaking that would be awsome to see her on ng
RV,
Or did you mean translation from german Fuch LOL
oh really is it evidence or nothing said yet on that (the bones that is)
no prob dak i just dont think it calls for much you know
Sabrina,
What was that all about?
does anyone else find this funny ?
man i really want to get inside her head and just pick at her brain i want to know what she knows or what she’s thinking. This is driving me nuts i want her to be arrested but i don’t because if she is then that only means the worse you know! And there is still some hope in me!
Find what funny Sabrina
I really want to know what padilla and his group know because i really think this guy has a lot of info that he can’t just give out.
Yeah snookers…sorry…I stepped out for a moment..
Lol!
i dom’t know catherine dak has attacked me and i don’t know why
I think im typing to fast
Protesting is a right that all U.S. citizens have. The problem is the protesting should be done peacefully. The protester’s at the Ant’s house look like they just came from the Jerry Springer show. Not good people!
I didn’t Catherine…what’s the coop?
did everybody leave again?
I meant scoop…sorrry
Sabrina,
You love Dak!
your right Catherine 100% i think that they need to settle it down just a tad
Hey Rv read up alittle and tell me if I attacked Sabrina.
rv,
I’m sorry I am lost by your comment.
Okay lets do a vote:
Parents in on it- Yeh or Neh
Neh
Gawd!!!! It’s like ghost busters in here…eveyone keeps disappearing!
Lol!
We all agreed to stop the personal attacks. Let’s just wipe the slate clean.
So who ya gonna call(haha)
Be right back
I think she has confided in Lee her brother i think that Lee now knows a lot more than he did to began with
I agree I think Lee knows more than he’s letting on, just curious what it is.
right Where did everybody go Come on People im at work i need to stay occupied lets get the room heated up!!! I think when i was blogging on another site there was someone in there acting like someone else but i really believe it was someone close to M or her herself. Weird why pretend to be someone else to get attention you would get alot more being yourself!
Me too Dak man when one goes down the whole damn stacks gonna fall!
A man in Lynn Ma has done the same thing as Casey he is in jail under a 500.000 bail, and wont tell what he has done with his son Giovanni, I wonder why the Media and Padilla arent doing any thing to find him, since evidence shows he could still be alive, And his Mother wants him back.
alright im totally gonna check the other blog did everyone go back?
“Most of the time she was there when I got home,” Cindy Anthony
said. Detectives said they searched for the name “Zenaida Fernandez-
Gonzalez” on Casey Anthony’s computer but did not find any refer
ence. Casey Anthony has said that she left Caylee with a baby sitter
named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez at the Sawgrass Apartments in
Orange County.
Okay this makes no sense. Detectives said they searched Caseys computer for Zenaida and said they didn’t find anything and they say they did.HMMM.
ah gonna get outa hear…………
Sabrina we do not allow that kind of posts in here. Please follow our rules.
Jan
edited by Jan Barrett – BNN Editor
Crazy so now its like a fad to kill your kid and lie about it? What is it in the water?
Dakdude.
Did not you catch the date. That was on 7/16.
hello no anybody okay i guess then im out
I read now that Caseys grandmother(Cindy’s Mom) said she got a call from a little girl after Caylee went missing but wasn’t sure it was Caylee. Maybe LE should pull her phone records.
Boy I can’t just comment on any one thing, you all have made excellent points today. Thanks for sharing your views.
What was 7/16 Snookers.
Gotta go be back later.
I’m certain sweet sabrina was talking about Richard Nixon, Dak…she doesn’t impress me as the type of gal who would know about such nasty things since she really looks down on others who aren’t monogamous.
Sabrina,
Now that word I understand. Not like the previous unknown to me “wanger ” .
Dak,
the search on computer for Zenaida fernandez gonzalez name.
Yeah, ‘wanger’ was a new one for me too! Lol! I’m not to street savvy but I got it figured out!
I dont know if its in the water to kill your kid. Buti do think he got the Ideal after he heard about Casey.
stwiseEd…the best I can figure is that when one leaves, the other(s) go try to chase that person down via the web. I don’t do that because I know that eventually they’ll return here. Lol!
Sabrina,
Come back.
See! Lol!
What does anyone think about monster searching websites for missing children?
She did the search back in March 2008. Has she been planning this murder since March?
Catherine: in regards to Facebook…..THAT CRACKED ME UP! YOU HAVE AN AMAZING SENSE OF HUMOR…….(CHUCKLING) that’s a phrase used by stenographers (ha..) I will be laughing all night about that!!!! lol.
Catherine,
Probably as part of a plan that was developing in her sick emotionless brain. Checking on circumstances for those who were never found in order to duplicate the scenario. The longer you wait reporting a missing person , the less chance of that person getting found.
I was laughing as I was writing it. Sometimes I can’t help myself.
snookers,
That thought crossed my mind too.
Planning a murder or an abduction?
I just couldn’t believe my ears when I was listening to C. tell the story about the accident with Zani coming back from Tampa. The best part was monster again stated it was work related and Juliet Lewis was with her. What the heck is wrong with this lunatic making up a story about a people who exists in her imagination. Maybe she is going to go for a insanity plea.
Murder. A real abduction involves other people. M did not trust other people. She views other people similar to the way she functions/behaves.
parents in on it?? murder…neh…..coverup….yea…..
Catherine,
Naw, she is not insane. Just trying to make her lies more elaborate, therefor more believable. Remember she has been doing this for years and got away with many of them.
Youn would think her mother would question every word that comes out of her mouth. C. calls monster a liar and a sociapath. So why wouldn’t she take her for help when this behavior pattern started, Instead, she probably said, now sweetheart tell mommy the truth ok honey. C. should have got a court order to evaluate her in a mental hospital for six months. I mean C.’s a frigging nurse, she has to have contacts.
Catherine: is c&c that dumb that they think they can’t check on a police “accident” report from that date?? If Zani was hospitalized, it must have been a doozie of an accident!! Did anyone ever check out the website with Juliet Lewis (the actress) giving an interview about a movie she was doing? It sounds like the life that casey wanted. I think Casey was infatuated with Juliet Lewis (the actress) and made her the make believe friend out of admiration (sicko..)
Donot think parents involved in killing Caylee , hiding of body.
Cindy talks like a nut now, straight from a character of “one flew over the cuckoo nest”.
Yeah, that was strange. Didn’t she say that Casey was following her, about eight cars back when Zanni was cut off or something? And, in her brand new car! Yikes! Or was it in the one she was going to trade in? I forgot.
Catherine: I think Cindy is also a sociapath from what I’ve observed of her on TV, she lies as well as Casey does and therefore found it “normal” or “acceptable” behavior??????
Way back 2005 I believe, from when M still was working for Kodak another “real”person(Heather) said that M did hang around with a Juliet but could not remember last name but was not Lewis. Again, a small grain of truth but a person from years back, same as Jeffrey.
yeah, snookers, or “My Cousin Vinnie”…Lol!
So the whole family sit around the family room with a big calendar and ask monster, sweetheart what did you do on this day and then what about the following day. Every bit of information monster told C. was a lie. How about we put her back into jail and let the police do the questioning. What are they afraid of, people are going to think bad things about monster? Like she killed her baby.
NEWS FLASH: Casey Marie Anthony killed Caylee Marie Anthony
Cayleehsah,
Oh yeah, I totally agree with you.
The police want to hear that tune in mono; the attorneys are waiting for stereo.
surround sound…haha!
Monster learned her behavior from somebody. I wonder what her name was?
When I watched Caylee sitting on her great grandfather lap, and he was singing her a song it breaks my heart to think that baby was going to be murdered the following day by her own mother.
Catherine,
Would not even be surprised if she got pregnant delibirately for attention. Would explain why she hid it for so long. Hard to get an abortion at 7 mos.
That’s right snookers…where’s a plastic wrapped wanger when ya need one, eh?
And the motive was jealousy! Monster’s behavior was not hidden from her mother. The more monster complained the more C. showered Caylee with love. They are both unfit mothers. Mothers and daughters are not in competition when a grandchild is born. Did C. want to punish monster for getting pregnant by taking her baby away from her? Monster did hate her mother, but C’ hated monster just as much. Sick, sick fsmily.
hey snookers it is possible for a woman to be 5 – 7 months pregnant and not know it.
snookers,
Your right.
rv
She should have wrapped herself with bubble wrap and used a whole roll of tape to secure it especially from the waist down.
Like an urban environmentally unfriendly chastity belt, Catherine?
Dak, I know you were talking to snookers, but, you are making me wonder if you do have two children now.
Why is that RV
Babies start to move around 5 months and by 7 months they are jitterbugging inside your uterus. I find it har to believe that a woman would not know she is pregnant by 5 months. On top of that a woman’s breasts swell to triple their normal size.
I do have to children one is 49(5 in October)and the other is almost 16 months.
rv
LOL
Because, the menstrual cycle will cease when one is pregnant. Yes, people with irregular cycles could be fooled, but a tiny gal like Casey would have noticed weight gain…probably at least 20-25 pounds.
My wife has a cousin who didn’t know she was prgnant until almost 6 months into her prgnancy.
You have a child that is 49?
Hate is a strong emotion that M doesnot have.
Caylee was just in the way of her current life style. Her mother wanted M out of the house I think but not Caylee. M would have been homeless. Why should Caylee have a home and not her. She resented Caylee and her mom, but no hate. She is incapable of that.
rv
That is also another sign. Although, I only gained 12 lbs with my 2nd daughter.
I’m sorry that was supposed to be that my son is 4 and will be 5 in October and my daughter is 16 months.
Well, I went to school with a girl that no one knew she was pregnant until she gave birth in her parents bathroom. We were all shocked!
I think Casey knew she was pregnant, but didn’t flaunt it perhaps because of the social ramifications during the time of her pregnancy.
Perhaps she did consider adoption at that time; an unwed mother would have many issues to deal with at that age. That area is most certainly a “Scarlett A” area, so, I could understand that thinking.
I was pregnant for four months(at 37) and did not realize it. Finally thought I may have a tumor.
Surprise, tumor had a heartbeat ,however.
snookers,
When monster was milling Caylee what do you think she felt? Freedom?
Gosh, Catherine…I’ll bet you didn’t even show.
Here is something interesting i read.
ere, this is a pretty good scoop and it does answer some questions I know we all ask.
An FBI source working closely on the case has told me so much more than what has been released.
As some of you may recall I had said a couple of weeks ago I was going to contact someone that was working the case.
According to my source in the FBI they have evidence that Casey had used both chloroform & Xanax to drug Caylee, also that according to evidence Caylee had been in the trunk for 11 days, this according to the CSI test results done on the trunk.
The also have evidence that Caylee was at at least 2 drug & sex parties, and had been knocked out on drugs.
Traces of BOTH Chloroform & Xanax were discovered in the trunk of the car in the body fluids tested.
ALSO Casey had ask jesse grund through text messages about Xanax, street name Zanny.
They also have some as he called them Shocking photos.
They want the Corpse because hair would tell the levels of the drug in the baby.
They also think she did dump the body in a
“NEARBY SWAMPY AREA INFESTED WITH ALLIGATORS”
And that MURDER charges are definitely next to come soon
I am not going to swear but I think the photos they have may be of the parties he told me about where they know Caylee was present and knocked out with drugs.
He described them as drug & sex orgies.
We have Caylee visiting her great gr-father on the 15th last date proven alive.
By doing the simple math we no have her placing the body in the trunk on the 17th.
The CSI test show the varied levels of decomp the trunk was exposed to as 11 days.
So we know the car was towed on the 27th and the body was removed at that time.
So she dumped the body during those early am hours of the 27th, since it was in the lot at 7am when the worker first came in.
So, was she tying to bury her then, and decided against it or was she digging her up and moving her?
I am leaning toward she was going to bury her and it was to much work for her sorry ass so she put her in the trunk and drove around with her body for 11 days.
Meant to say killing Caylee
Glad you cleared that up Catherine…I got the impression you may have thought Casey was just a ‘dang ole’ dawg” for the offspring handler. Lol!
She was planning to settle in the Grund family, alas that plan tanked.
Catherine no clue what milling Caylee means
rv
Just like a little basketball in the front. Couldn’t tell I was pregnant from behind. My doctor was not happy about me not gaining weight though. My daughter was 6lbs 2 ounces
changed milling to killing
RV – You said, “I think Casey knew she was pregnant, but didn’t flaunt it perhaps because of the social ramifications during the time of her pregnancy.”
I’m not sure what constitutes “flaunting” but she was dating Jesse at 7 months and supposedly did not know she was pregnant and had not told him. It was Jesse’s father who saw her one day and told his son “that girl’s pregnant.” I wonder when C found out?
Why didn’t C. want to give LE her J.C. Penney’s statement?
I’m not surprised Casey lied about her pregnancy. She lied about everything else.
I don’t know how a psychiatrist can tell the difference between a sociopath and a crazy person.
It seems totally crazy to me to make up a job and two imaginary friends and tell detailed stories about them.
It is also crazy to kill your daughter, bury her, dig her up, throw her in a trunk, drive around town until you run out of gas and the body is sticking so much you dump it in a dumpster and abandon the car.
That doesn’t sound sane to me. I wouldn’t want to be in the same room with her. Or her crazy family. Lee sounded a little luny laughing about Caylee’s dead body stinking up the car and garage, Cindy getting her face on TV every chance she gets lying and covering up for her felon daughter and George wild eyed screaming “shut up shut up” or “the person who was in that car has my granddaughter. Get your facts straight.”
I don’t know how the grandparents sleep because they know the person who was in that car killed their granddaughter and she is sleeping in their house next to them.
Maybe they don’t sleep. That’s why they act so crazy.
Catherine,
She probably did not feel anything when she was killing Caylee. Too busy working on the cover up story.
mytwocents,
Yes Jesse’s father did say that.
Catherine; that’s what LE wants to know. Apparently she gave it to LV. What did he do with it? And what’s he doing now?
A while ago someone asked if we’d seen LV wear a “Missing Caylee” t-shirt. I have been keeping an eye out for that but so far have not seen him wear one.
Concerned,
There just a bunch of zombies. Each one of them takes a turn watching the monster to make sure she’s not going to kill them.
Didn’t LV take monster to her case worker’s office last Monday?
2C,I’m sure C knew since c does the shopping and cleaning around the place…get my drift?
General Question to all:
Knowing what we have all read and seen on television what date do you think the murder actually took place? What day do you think monster got rid of Caylee’s body? Did monster have help getting rid of Caylee’s body? If so, who helped monster?
Well, she’s dating a guy whose father is a pastor…what’ll ya do to break the ice at a family dinner…blurt out, “hey everyone, guess who got knocked up?”
Caylee was spoken to inside the airport on July 2…even pronounced her name the same way.
Hello…anybody out there?
I believe Caylee was murdered on June 16th.
I believe monster got rid of Caylee’s body on June 24th.
I don’t think she had help getting rid of Caylee’s body.
Okay people, yes flies are swarming me right now, but it’s just because there is a hole in the screen and I’m so sweet. Lol!
brb
I think that timeline is off Catherine
Me too
Mytwocents said: “she was dating Jesse at 7 months and supposedly did not know she was pregnant and had not told him. It was Jesse’s father who saw her one day and told his son “that girl’s pregnant.”
Richard Grund said on Nancy Grace that Jesse only dated Casey two weeks and then broke it off because she got too serious. Then six months later she shows up on the Grund doorstep looking pregnant, but denied it, saying she had “female problems.” Jesse believed her but his father did not.
I read she denied being pregnant to Cindy and Cindy believed her until she finally told Cindy at seven months she was pregnant. Richard said Casey text messaged Jesse at seven months pregnant and told him she was pregnant and he was the father. However, he took a DNA test after Caylee was born and found out he wasn’t the father but acted like the father until Caylee was 10 months old and Casey left Jesse for another man.
Hi peeps,
Haven’t been into the case today except to read some of the IM’s between Casey and others, and some of the cell phone messages. I downloaded the second set of files released so I could read off-line.
Haven’t even read any of the latest posts on the last blog, nor any here on this one.
Just wanted to pop in and take inventory 🙂
I think Caylee was killed on the 16th, her body buried in the backyard, dug up on the 18th and then dumped in the dumpster the day she abandoned the car which was what the 23rd?
I don’t think she had any help. Remember her “Trust no one but yourself” creed. She doesn’t want anyone to know she did it and where she disposed of the bag that her daughter’s body?
Catherine said,in September 27th, 2008 at 8:13 pm General Question to all:
Knowing what we have all read and seen on television what date do you think the murder actually took place? What day do you think monster got rid of Caylee’s body? Did monster have help getting rid of Caylee’s body? If so, who helped monster?
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July 16–murder took place and body placed in the trunk
July 18–body removed from trunk and placed in the yard only long enough to decide it was not a good idea–body placed back in the trunk
July 24–body disposed of before going home to get clothes (Lee said George wanted the gas cans, Casey was adamant that he was NOT getting into the trunk, that she got the cans out HERSELF and slung them at George cursing. He very well may not have gotten close enough to the trunk to detect the smell that day)
I don’t think she had help from anyone. This was her secret, she alone had control over who would be/not be involved, and after reading the transcripts, I can’t find anyone who seems as though they would have been willing to help her dispose of a dead body –no matter how much good sex she offered.
C a C, car was abandoned 27th.
Catherine said,in September 27th, 2008 at 8:03 pm Why didn’t C. want to give LE her J.C. Penney’s statement?
Probably the same reason she said she told NG she had casey’s phone records and they had calls on them that LE didn’t have. Then said a lot of the calls from Casey to her weren’t even on the cell phone records.
The J.C.Penney statement may have things charged on it that C didn’t want publicized, OR it may have been paid off with some of the funds given to search for Caylee. Who knows? But she was probably still just defending Casey’s expenditures on it.
I’m guessing the day Caylee was murdered (if dead) would have been the same day Zanni was in that terrible accident.
I’m just hoping she didn’t make a mistake and grab the wrong car prior to purchasing the new one and someone accidentally beat the poor twistedsister into pulp fiction and left her there…thank goodness Casey was only a few cars behind.
Catherine, you asked what Casey felt when she was killing Caylee.
According to the psychiatrists, sociopaths aren’t capable of having any feelings at all. They can’t feel love or remorse and they don’t understand why others get upset.
That’s why Casey reacted like she did to her friend Kristina’s emotional outburst after Casey called the Anthony house from jail.
Kristina told Casey, “You’ve got to tell me where Caylee is. I will die if anything happens to that baby.”
Casey replied, “Oh my God, what a waste. Calling you people. What a waste.”
Pammyliz, I just read your post on the other blog that you aren’t coming back because of the fighting on the board and you not being acknowledged.
I just wanted to let you know I read your posts and enjoyed them and hope you come back. I blogged for a long time thinking nobody was reading me because no one responded. I don’t acknowledge every post but I read them all.
As for the bickering, that is all over hopefully because Jan isn’t putting up with it.
Hope you will come back. I miss you.
Hi anybody in here?
gumshoe,
Read your post. You and I are on the same page.
I’m here Catherine. Did you read my and Gumshoe’s answers to you while you were gone?
c.c.
Sometimes people think that the room is set up as a chat room, but you or M2C cleared up the misunderstanding I had with blogs rooms….. Its possible to feel as if no body is listening, but the people here are reading everyone opinions. I’ve been reading since 9:30 eastern time…I was caughting up.
So for the ones who think that just cause you don’t get a quick responds to your posts and that no one is listening, We are listening..
Concerned,
Why the 23rd?
I am still baffled that M had Cindy’s Suv the end of June. According to the August 1 interview.Which was never disclosed to LE earlier.
On June 30, she had Toni’s the jeep for a bit. But after June 26th, no wheels I thought, but now it looks like she had her Mom’s car for a bit.
How did she get the Suv from the house. Did somebody drop her off. Maybe the mysterious guys that pushed the pontiac into the amscot lot.
Where did she go in that Suv. Back to the Amscot lot to get stuff/caylee out of the trunk of the pontiac?
Also, how did the Suv get back to the house again. Somebody had to pick her up again.Cindy is still hiding things I think.
Has everyone signed the petition?
The last number on the list was 2004 signed.
Does anyone know what it is now?
snookers,
We need to explore that further. It is puzzling.
allie,
Don’t know what the count is at now.
Catherine, I couldn’t remember the date she dropped off the car. I believe she dumped the body at the dumpster when she ran out of gas at Amscott. But that’s just a guess. None of us know what really happened except Casey and she’ll never tell.
Concerned,
I understand. We are trying to sort through so many lies.
I haven’t figured out how to keep on the blog without typing and typing. Then I can’t read. So I’ll type a blog. Then come back and read the other blogs. So I don’t stay on the blog like in a chat room. I go in and out.
snookers,
Somebody is hiding something with regard to monster’s transporation. It doesn’t make any sense that she would have C. SUV. C said monster was in Tampa on the 24th with Zani at Tampa General Hospital.
ok i am here, i’m gonna go to the website and read the petition.
Have to go BBL.
Catherine, do some thinking on that Cindy Suv thingy.
BTW, did you read that Cindy drove up to Universal early July, looking for M. Bet she found out , she was not working there.
The white pontiac was seen at 7 A:M: by the clerk at AMscot on June 27th and towed on June 30th. Is hat right?
Yes, Catherine those days and times are right.
CaC – That’s what you have to do. Read until you want to write something and then write it and post it. Then Refresh and that will show any comments that appeared since you last looked and before your post shows.
snookers,
No I did not know C. drove to Univerdsal in July looking for monster. Why does she always say well, Casey was working at Universal and she was crashing at Zani’s house?
yes, I am looking for answers to how many vehicles were at her disposal. She drove Amy’s car, Tony’s jeep the week he was gone, now we find out she also drove C’s suv. So she actually wasn’t without transportation for any length of time (or having to smell the awful smell the whole time) as we had originally thought.
Where was her car parked when she used Tony’s car?
What day was it that George saw her on the hiway and gave chase but lost her in traffic?
thanks concerned I am back, it just seems sometimes theres so much of a guessing who is who that people get missed or ignored. I stand behind everyone having an opinion…i dont care if someone wants to be 2 people..lol i dont know any different lol
i do enjoy chatting with you all, i work with that bickering crap all day, and its noce to chat with people who like you.. i see nothing developed today, except the new petition. i havent checked it out today…
you know today when i was out driving which i do alot in my job, i was thinking about the case which was weird, I guess cause it bugs me and i kept focusing on M using texts to talk sex talk and her snot head comment.. and i thought wow my car is smelling like gas fumes or something,and it made me think of her driving around with a stench car, i have that mental image, driving around with a corpse? possibly in your car??? I mean is this not crazy? if we say crazy it means mentally ill which i would think someone doing such a thing we would say crazy, but then when yous ee all the docs and her words texts emails, and stuff she isn’t crazy perfectly sane.., anyways i don’t have a point lol but i mean i just thought that out driving how do you drive with your child like this in a car, then you come back with the dam smelly car, then you talk about squirrels.. i dont know its just crazy
If she was using all these different vehicles, then the body could have been in the trunk of her own car the whole time from the 18th – 24th with noone suspecting anything.
I wish I had a big desk calendar like LE had to write all my timeline in. Maybe I need to pick one up 🙂
Hi, Pammyliz, welcome back.
Catherine, didn’t Cindy say Casey never left Orlando and that’s how she knew the car accident in Tampa was a big lie. We know it’s a lie because there is no Zanny the Nanny and that Juliette Lewis is a movie star who has never met Casey.
Snookers, all that crap about Casey driving Cindy’s car sounds like a lie. Didn’t she say her daughter had been missing for a month and she hadn’t seen her. Which was a lie or all of them?
So we have liar #1 and liar #2 just to complicate the facts in this case. Or is C. so stupid she can’t see the forest for the trees?
I’m starting to believe C & monster are lying as a plan to get monster off.
gumshoe thanks you gave me a better timeline, i was confused about how long they said or suspected she had driven the car with caylee in it, thats what i just posted i mean for that much stench she had to have had the body for a long time ( I would think).. an odor as their describing, so how did she stand being in the car and why would she herself not have picked up some fumes on her own self? you know we pick up odors, from smoke, and stuff, i would think she would stink? crazy again crazy to me…
CaC and Catherine: Agree totally.
When she was driving Tony’s car while he was away (June 30 to about July 5 or so) is that when she told people about the dead squirrel smell in her car? What reason did she give – if any – for driving his car at that time?
Pammyliz, like you I feel it is crazy to kill your child, throw her body in the trunk, drive around with it for days until it smells so bad you have to abandon the car because a normal person wouldn’t do that.
But psychiatrists say she isn’t crazy, that this is the behavior of a sociopath who simply doesn’t bond with anyone and is cold and callous and doesn’t care.
I’m glad she can’t get off on a insanity plea because I’d hate to see her go to a mental hospital for two months and be back out there screwing and pregnant again. Then we’d have the whole scenario over again.
i know its so morbid to talk about that like that ( caylee) but i don’t lnow of any other way to word it. you know, but, i would think if C said her clothing reeked she did too. and i just cant get that image out of my head… the whole case sickens me…i don’t think we’ll ever know the true story maybee a conviction but,still not enough answers this case begs for answers there so many twists and turns
pammy,
Sometimes, I purchase a cooked chicken from the supermarket, I put my groceries in my trunk and the smell is so strong it make sme sick. I can’t imagine the smell of a dead body in my trunk. How could she ignore that smell? Wouldn’t that smell miger on her clothing?
pammyliz I was wondering the same thing about her picking up the smell on herself. And for some reason I thought of Jesse saying that some time between June 22 and early July she called to ask if she could come over and take a shower supposedly because Tony was away. Well she stayed at Amy’s while Tony was away so she could have showered there. Why ask Jesse? I think it’s because she thought it was the safest place – if she stank like the car.
Jesse knows for a fact that he got two text messages from her in early July. So the date he can’t remember is the day she wanted the shower. And that had to be before the texts. So that would be June 22 – June 30 or so.
correction-smell linger
yah and I am sure as much as LE has let out, we would know by now if her metal tests came back bad, i think they would ahve let it out already, so this tells me she passed her psychiatric tests. but still a sociopath.. but images of a person driving a car around with a dead body? only makes me think of a horror movie i watched a suspense movie you know? weird plain weird. then again maybe an odor that horrific as i hear it told, she didnt have her in there long, cause why would she drive that long with her in there, there would have been time to bury so i dont get that either why drive? unless like i said the odor is so pungent that it just stays and stays, had i been able to get through to NG on the phone which I have tried many times i would ask that kby guy how long for the body did he think it had to be there for that much odor to be there weeks later?
Catherine wrote:
Sometimes, I purchase a cooked chicken from the supermarket, I put my groceries in my trunk and the smell is so strong it make sme sick. I can’t imagine the smell of a dead body in my trunk. How could she ignore that smell? Wouldn’t that smell miger on her clothing?”
It was on her clothes and that’s why Cindy washed them.
i had no idea abou the shower thing, that tells me she needed to get that odor off..
mytwocents,
are you ssaying that Jesse wasn’t home when she took the shower?
i meant that kobilinski guy he would have our answer lol how long a body would smell the car up exactly and precisely, and would the odor attach to her.. he would know if i cou;d just get through her phone lines!!!
Catherine: Jesse was home. He told her she could come over and he said she seemed fine. I just thought it was extremely strange that she would ask to take a shower at his place when she was staying with Amy. Remember she just showed up at Amy’s door right after dropping off Tony at the airport when he went on vacation? So why shower at Jesse’s? I think that happened before Tony went away and she was looking for a “safe” place. It’s just very weird.
yes or when you leave mcdonalds in car thats bad too…even gas fumes or exhaust is bad.. so i cannot imagine her mind thought on those days.. what a proud mother moment and mother of the year moment, driving my car while my flesh and blood is gone in my car.. ( I’m trying to work it proper)…so it doesnt sound as sickening as we know it to be… you see this case just tears me up emotionally…
pammyliz, that Kobilinksy guy may not be on NG anymore. He was hired by BB to be the defense forensic consultant and NG is none too happy about it. And I think we’re all hoping she gives him the boot especially because the last thing he said was “I really hope Caylee is alive” which is a plug for the defense if I ever heard one. But I’m sure whoever his replacement is could tell you.
From what I hear about Florida heat I don’t think it would take long at all to smell but how long to permeate the rest of the car?
Pammyliz, you are absolutely right. She passed the psychiatric tests or she couldn’t have gone home on bail.
I think they can tell she is not crazy because she isn’t breaking down. Even though her toddler is missing, she acts like everything is fine.
After she killed her kid and disposed of the body, she went pole dancing and partying every night, screwing every guy she could, writing text message after text message, calling on her cell phone constantly and telling everybody cheerfully how Caylee was having so much fun with the nanny.
A crazy person would be having a mental breakdown.
Good night everyone! Look forward to talking with you all soon!
So from June 30th until June 16th she had access to cars.
Tony-June 30th July 5th
She uses whose car in between these dates Tony’s?
Amy-July 9 thri July 16th
yes i wondered tho if at the point where she did this (to caylee) she cracked and had a psychotic break ( like i said i take care of people who have had this who were once functioning people), and went off into another world of unrelaity psychosis basically… but then…. when they came out with the recent docs that clinched this case, she had done this prior premeditation, thats all it can be it is unlikely that she pre searched chlorofrom and missing kid websites if she had not planned it . and then blows my theory of
psychosis…after a murder.. or a killing..totally blows it out the window,,, iw ould much rather believ in my heart she did this then snapped then believe she sat and thought about this before, long ago and then just waited till the moment came where she decided to go through with it.( which i think came when she and C had it out, and all the other mounting pressures on her, she just did it
Night mytwocents
I’m going to bed folks. I usually blog in the morning when my head is clearer.
Night, Concerned
Be Back Later
right thats what i mean how long to smell and keep that kind of odor for so long.. yah he is normally neutral so i was surprised hes going with the defense, but do think he knows his stuff he always has the answer to the scientific facts..
ok all i wont be on long either its been a good 13 hour day.. but i will be off next 2 days and will be back…
Shower at Jesse was on July 1, about 10.30 am left around 12. Per jesse she arrived with a bag of clothes.
Amy , I believe said M talked about smelly car on June 25th.
M driving Cindy’s suv end of June came from George not Cindy.
Hello everyone… Finally able to get on for a bit…We are still sharing one computer, until the other is fixed. Anymore excitement in here tonight?
Is anyone still here?
hi everyone just home from work anything new?
I think its only you & I flowerchild…everyone vacated I think.
so early usually it is like one in the morning when preople leave,so what has been going on?
I have no idea…I was just able to get on the computer a while ago..thought a few would be in here. It seems everyone left. I wanted to find out more info on some things I read above, but the posters left the blog.
seems like alot of fighting going on tonight, i wish people would understand this blog is about a little girl, i know we all don’t agree with each other,but as i said it not about us in here it is about caylee
I just mostly want to see a link regarding the bones that were found… someone posted above about some bones being found this past week by I think they said a group of psychics? I did not read this anywhere…but was interested in hearing more about it.
the only time i step up is when someone comes in here not to discuss the case, but make degrading remarks to people then i will say something back
who said something degrading flowerchild? I think I missed that reviewing the posts above.
i didn’t know if it was psychics who found them, i am wondering about the clothes and bones they found like three weeks ago, then everything got silent, no release on anything yet
Someone said above that this was a new find this past week. At least that was how I read the post. I can go up and see if I can find it.
it was on the other blog from a getalifeyoulosers said something to the effect that most of us casey haters wish someone would kidnapp our pecious ones so we could go be sluts to, really chapped my hide
ok will wait
Found it…Catherine must have read this, it was one of her posts…
Catherine said,in September 27th, 2008 at 6:33 pm Did anyone hear about some bones that were found by some psychic’s this past week.
I was trying to research this on the net..but couldn’t find anything. Was interested in hearing more about it.
haven’t heard anything on that yet,but will try later,did you read the text messages between casey and that anthony guy the fired cop she was messing with, boy they are really telling how he felt about kid, offspring is what he called caylee
i believe that is the motive for casey getting rid of caylee,they couldn’t see each other as often as they wanted to because she had caylee
what is your theory Kris? and do you think the anthony”s are now trying to cover their butts c and g i mean
I heard about the text messages but have not viewed them or read them all. Do you have a link to them? I just finally had a chance to hear all of Cindy’s interview…All I can say is “Holy moses!”…that was something to listen too. I would love to see the things she texted about…someone said on one of the media outlets that there were hundreds of texts per month.
I am not sure about C& G…I keep going back and forth with them. I thought I was convinced on C’s involvement somewhat…only when I read about the time she went to Tony’s with Amy to get monster. Anyone who was hysterical about a missing granddaughter would have been the first thing out of their mouth upon entering the home, but she focused her conversation there with monster more on materialistic issues like the missing checks or other stolen items. It tipped the scale for me then when I read that. I thought that was way to weird for a grandmother to not mention Caylee at all when finding her. Even during the boyfriends interview they specifically asked him more than once towards the end of the interview,
” At no point did Cindy mention Caylee” when she was there..he said no.
you really must read them, go to myfoxorlando.com and click the timeline link the scroll down to you see photo galleries and it will be in there his text name is buddy nyi something it will really piss you off to read what they said about caylee
I’m gonna see real quick if I can find it…I won’t stay to read everything, just want to make sure I can locate it is all…brb
i don’t think cindy really knew at first that caylee was dead,but then after the dna evidence came back is when she started to backtrack everything she said,so now i think she is covering her own butt, i think she knew awhile back caylee was dead
Found it….HOLY CRAP! I can’t read that fine print…my eyes are shot! lol.
How the heck can I enlarge it? Surely there is another site with the print larger? If not I will need a magnifying glass against my computer screen.
ok
I am just so excited about the news I read yesterday about the arrest coming for the “big one” in the next couple weeks…makes all this blogging worth while to hear this news.
do u have the thing where u can make it bigger the zoom level that is how i read them some of them arn’t so clear but most of them are, i know it is hard to read
in the casey only says caylee’s name once, she refers to her as the kid, are the little snot head,him it is offspring, never her name
when u read them u will understand why i said this is the motive for getting rid of caylee
That is just soooo sad..that someone can say that about their own child. The worst I ever said about mine was called her a rugrat once, and when she was crawling and getting into alot of trouble…an ankle biter…lol. But always in a joking manner in front of family. Monster is a rotten human being and never should have been a mother…god should have made her sterile.
I Heard Padilla say on Nancy Grace that Jesse Grund’s dad is the one who gave Casey her cell phone. Why do you suppose he would do that? Why would he not take that phone back when Casey and Jesse broke up? Just seems kinda strange. I think Casey stated she’d had it for over a year???
well when u have time read them, and u willsee what i mean about motive, he sounds like a real sleazeball of a man
Maybe the cell phone was a gift? Possibly Xmas? That is the only way I would think they would be diplomatic enough to let her keep it after the big ruse.
not sure about about that one,but you know how casey is, maybe she said she would pay for it
I was a way for a bit – does anyone have any feeling about why m visited missing children sites in May I believe? Was she plotting even then? The thought that this was planned months before is the hardest thing for me to imagine. There were so many other options, but I guess this one hurts others the most.
do you think that they are now considering her as a main suspect and will be charged in caylee diaapperance now
flowerchild..I just went back over there and absolutely tried to read them again…I will never be able to unless there is a way to enlarge the print. God only knows I really want to see all the crap they talked about in those texts…but I need to find another website that has the print bigger. I use to have 20/20 vision…but like the eye doctor said, 40 is the magical age for the eyes to start going if they’re gonna, now I feel like I have the eyes of rip van winkle..lol.
or is this still the child neglect thing?
i feel the same way kris and i am rip van winkle LOL at age 57 my eyes aren’t in good shape either, have you tried the text size in your view section of your web browser that is what i did
Elle said,in September 28th, 2008 at 12:18 am I was a way for a bit – does anyone have any feeling about why m visited missing children sites in May I believe?
Elle, I read way back I think it was the beginning of August that she had specifically been interested in reading up on Trenton Duckett..another missing child. And was researching his case…There was also a psychics site who has followed the case who had posted some of the pics from monsters computer (possibly facebook? or my space?), don’t remember..anyway there was a pic in there of Trenton Ducket….that was very weird.
Kris, about the small print…if you go to Start>Setting>Control Panel>Mouse then you can assign one of the mouse buttons to magnify….works great for reading small stuff.
or try your zoom level
Usually if I am able to highlight the words I can enlarge the text…it won’t let me do that on those docs. So if anyoneelse reads this post tommorrow and can do this with their computer…PLEASE EMAIL ME! It will be greatly appreciated.
Maybe someone could attatch the docs to an email I am hoping with larger print.
Was Trenton the little boy taken from his bedroom, right? Didn’t his dad also visit C after this happened.
reason for visiting missing children site, to get a ideal how people go about trying to find a missing child, but wasn’t that before caylee came up missing
Elle did you read the text messages from casey and the buddy guy and if so what did you think?
I believe Trenton was the little one whose mom committed suicide..they never found his body. Nancy Grace took alot of heat over this I read, because it was believed the mother who was the only one who could eventually unlock the riddle was suicidal after the nancy grace show.
what is your email kris and i will see what i can do for you tommorrow
I read just a bit of the text messages on the NG show…I found the websites she visited as said so much about what she was into. What specifically are you talking about FC on the text messages?
she wanted to commit suicide nancy had nothing to do with it she coped out
about how casey and this buddy guy spoke about caylee, him mentioning her as a offspring and is the offspring handler coming to get her and casey’s calling her the kid or the little snot head never her name
It was a big to do when this happened with Trentons case. I read about it in many papers…supposedly people have said that NG went after the mother on the show and she was in a pretty devestating state to begin with, and that the show pushed her over the edge. (This is not my view, it is just what was implied by alot of the media outlets..and someone mentioned the father is attempting a lawsuit or something against Nancy Grace for it)
Alot was printed here in our local paper, because evidently the mom who committed suicide had roots here near my home town.
it seems to me this fired cop was getting pissed off because casey couldn’t come over his house all the time, and said that he saw his parents more than her,and it seem he was fixing to break up with her because of it
Gee i wish casey would go on nancy grace i bet nancy would tear her hair out
I would luv to see that! Remember the satire they printed about Nancy Grace driving to go punch out Casey? That was way too funny. lol.
You know, I’m glad Caylee at least had C&G in her life. Can you imagine how terrible it would have been if only M had been raising her . Guess that’s the only good thing I can that’s a good thing, she was really loved by the grandarents anyway. I am suprised the parents haven’t taken M back to jail with all the text messages and other things that has come out recently. Must be difficult to even look at M anymore – except for the get rich movie op, grrrrr
I couldn’t believe towards the end of tape 2 of Cindy’s interview when she said, ” I don’t care what happens to Casey..we just want Caylee back.” I thought…it was probably talk like this in the household that provided monster with the initiative to do what she did. Also I wondered just what her darling daughter would think when she heard dear old mom say this.
i know instead of cindy pointing fingers at jesse, they should be looking closer at this other guy, when they said casey might have someone help her dispose caylee body ex cop HMM
Kris, try that mouse adjustment I wrote about a bit ago. I used it on the docs and it helped a lot. You can actually adjust how large the magnifying window is to be the full size of the screen too.
remember in that phone call when casey was in jail, and that is what she said, that is all they are worried about was getting caylee back, seem kind of peeved they wasn’t worried about her
Elle… I would try it..but because we are sharing one computer right now…I am frightened of making any changes to anything. If something were to goof up the guy I live with would go balistic…he is not a very understanding person..(and I could go on). We just got this computer fixed after reformatting everything and anything that would be done on it has to be presented to the “President” of the household beforehand for passing or veto. He is an extremely controlling individual…I’ve always said..we are polar opposites because I am easy going.
They said she didn’t cry at all in the bond hearing, until she heard how much the bond was. I need her to breakdown and cry, but I don’t think we’ll ever see that day.
kris i think you can change it back after you are finish
she will cry when her butt gets sentence, no more freedom for real this time, and i do believe it will happen even if they never find caylees body
Kris, I understand completely, lived that way myself for 4 years.
I’m gonna mention the suggestion of the mouse change to “Benito Musalini” tommorrow morning. If he is ok with it..then I’ll go back in and view them. I just feel more comfortable checking first, otherwise I could get screamed at for it. lol.
Yeah, it’s easy to undo too….even for Musalini
I live with someone who is alot like Casey, never steps up to the plate (responsibility wise) and constantly blames others…for everything, even things that are entirely their own fault…but they will not accept this because it falls under the category of responsibility and accountability.
been there done that to kris, but learned i have strength to overcome and get rid of the problem,only saying this because of a hitler in my life for ten years and he went bye bye
I haven’t read the latest set of docs – need Cliff Notes, this has been more reading already than I’ve done in the last year. I’m calling it a night. Have a good evening everyone.
goodnight elle see you later
Which makes my hatred for monster all the more..because I know first hand how people like this are. They lack all normal emotions and feelings that others have and in my opinion they have no true idea of compassion or that people are human and make mistakes, or sense of honor, they are loose cannons who do not feel the rules of polite society apply to them. They walk through life not caring who they step on or hurt as long as the end result is getting what they want. “Their needs, their desires, and their feelings” that is all it is about.
Nite..elle
kris if you don’t mind me asking how old are u?
I turned 43 in June. My partner is younger than me he is 38.
hey kris if u need to talk in private sometimes are feel the need to talk to someone, here is my im messengers,flowerchild2000@live.com or beachbambamblue@yahoo.com,only if u want to talk if not thats ok
is it the age difference are is he just to control freak
I will add your email to my list of contacts…thankyou. I wish I had instant messenger…I am not sure how to get it or if it’s free or not. But either way I will send you a pic if you send one back, and to be honest there are times I wish I had someone to talk to about stuff.
His name is in the dictionary next to control freak. There is no move that can be made in this household without him knowing..even if it’s opening a window or hanging a picture. It can be bad… I would leave but I need my health fixed first.
yahoo messengers and windows live messengers are all free all u have to do is download them very easy and simple and no mess ups, i will send a pic when i get your email address so drop me a line ok
I will try to send one over right now..hang on..brb
what is wrong, and maybe your health would be better if you left, stress is a killer in itself, i know the man i was married to for ten years used to beat the crap out of me for no reason, began to have servere migraines all the time and sick until i left him and low and behold the headaches went away
I have other issues which are surgically correctable involving nfection from a faulty wisdom tooth extraction 9 years ago. Cotton gauze and rotting bone fragments were left inside of me….I became septic and it traveled along my jaw and got everything in its path.
did u send the email?
Just sent you the pics…please send some back.
Did you get them ok?
just sent u a email and pics let me know if u got them got urs ponigirl right?
You guys look so much alike! You look too young though to have a grandchild. That is amazing.
got them
That is the name I have given to my summer car…I have a ’66 mustang convertible. It is all stock and just a tad shy of being concoarse for national level shows. So when I talk to my car I call her ponygirl.
Did I look anything like you thought?
thanks she lives with me and my daughter to,that is what i don’t understand cindy i would be beating my daughters butt if my grandchild came up missing for a month
Hi All,
I am still kicking lol still ocd over all this.
I have spent hours tonight pouring over more documents from interviews with M’s ex-boyfriends, the tow truck driver and owner, C herself and some of the forensics for the computers and cameras etc.
SO OBVIOUS how the family themselves have had such a round about change in their attitudes about missing Caylee since they were first questioned a couple months back..
So that’s where I have been and hope to go over your most recent posts you all left today sometime tomorrow.
Boy oh boy what a ‘case’ this is to be sure.
Caylee, we love you sweet little girl…
yes very beautiful and sweet
I would never make it that far…I would fall apart and probably not want to live without my daughter.
Hi cj…Just winding down in here. I am getting pretty tired myself.
hi cj can’t wait for the BIG BOMBSHELL LOL
did you read the text messeages cj from buddy and casey?
yeah we ALL are “in wait”
YES!!!!
i heard they will do the formal charges in the next couple weeks..
Kris try to download windows live messenger or yahoo messenger if you are allow to
Think I’m gonna hit the hay guys. I’m am having trouble keeping my eyes open again. I wouldn’t want to sleep in too late tommorrow for fear of being accused of being lazy or something..by you know who,which I am not. I will pop in again tommorrow…by flowerchild, cj.
yes i did flower, read the buiddy to casey texts.. argh!
i hope it is formal charges that she is the main suspect in caylees missing
goodnight flower and kris, i am headed off too.:)
see you tomorrow.
ok kris i will be on in the morning before i have to go to work and be back on when i get home so nite and have a good rest
me too flower, It’S HIGH TIME for some action and ACCOUNTABILITY!
nite cj i am going to bed to
you go cj time for M to go down like the piece of crap she is
well nite to you flower, have a nice day tomorrow.
i made yummy banana cranberry nut bread and cupcakes today,
i will be busy tomorrow but will check back and chat with you later tomorrow!
cj wish i had some of those yummy cupcakes right now starving LOL nite
We need a new blog
In most murder cases, you have the prosecuting attorney fighting for the family of the defendant and the defense attorney fighting for the family of the victim.
In this case, the family is one of the same and George and Cindy have decided to take the side of the defendant, which makes it harder for the prosecution because usually the victim’s family are prosecution witnesses.
It’s obvious Cindy and George will be defense witnesses. However, most of Casey’s friends and ex boyfriends will be prosecution witnesses.
However, the prosecution will be able to use Cindy’s 911 call about the dead body in the car and some of her testimony that she believed Casey lied and the nanny didn’t exist to help the prosecution.
I was glad to hear they plan on arresting her for Caylee’s disappearance and not just child neglect.
I am looking forward to the trial now we know they have evidence on the computer and from witnesses of premeditation, DNA evidence that Caylee is dead and stacks of evidence showing Casey had means, motive and opportunity to murder her own daughter.
hi catherine. I totally agree with your blog…. is it true about an imminent arrest? I had seen themblogging about it but haven’t heard anything official yet
i found those 600 docs to be so incriminating, i really did. so many testimonials and seprately done they all can’t be lying you know so when those came out it really convinced me of her guilt in this, and then those texts my god, was she not thinking these could be read? by LE?? I mean so personal and so many details
Morning, CaC! I am curious to see what charges are brought exactly in connection with the disapppearnce as the news reports say.
Some type of murder I guess?
Also in developing our time line I noticed in the interview with her former boyfriend Christopher Stutz that he said that M visited him without Caylee on June 17, 18, or 19 and was definitely driving a dark color Jeep Cherokee. I think that’s Tony’s car. She told him that her car had broken down. So I guess she drove Tony’s car more often than just when he was away (June 30 – July 5 or 6).
So we know that no one saw Caylee after June 16 when G supposedly saw them both. And now on June 17, 18, or 19 she’s driving around in another car without Caylee. So where was the child? In her car I bet but no longer in this world.
C a C said “a true crime writer like Ann Rule could attend the trial and write the book based on all the evidence released. Then a movie could be made from that book”.
I contacted Ann. She said she would not touch this case because the book has already been written in the media and there is not enough mystery left, which is what her books are based on. She likes to write about low profile cases that haven’t already had the story told daily in the media.
(she does have a new book coming out aroung Thanksgiving, though 🙂
I also agree with those of you who question how a book or movie could be made that would be factual. Nothing so far has been except the circumstantial evidence, and we have already read that — and can re-read it. The Anthony’s will tell the story from their 3 points of (denial)view, which are different even within the family. Casey will NEVER tell anything but a lie–who wants to hear another one? Baez will double-talk and bore a writer to death–all a movie producer can hope for from him is his files–and even those won’t be movie material. I would not watch a movie that set the stage for an international kidnapping. And that’s exactly what it would be. Poor squirrels will have to die to make the movie as ‘believable’ as possible.
The JonBenet case was never solved, yet there was a lame movie made and several books written. There was nothing in any of them that hadn’t been in the news over and over. In my opinion the movie was a flop and a waste of my time.
Morning pammyliz! I’m wading thru the new docs too. Very self-incriminating on M’s part.
My post above does not ignore you. I was writing it as you were posting so I did not see your posts until I submitted mine.
Gumshoe, that’s right. Someone on NG said that most would not want the story unless M told them a different version – like the truth. Because it isn’t a mystery. A lot of info is already out there. And I guess buying or trying to buy the rights does not guarantee that a book will be written or a movie made. It just allows the buyer to do it if they want to in future. Unfortunately it still gives the family $.
Kris said,in September 28th, 2008 at 12:48 am I couldn’t believe towards the end of tape 2 of Cindy’s interview when she said, ” I don’t care what happens to Casey..we just want Caylee back.” I thought…it was probably talk like this in the household that provided monster with the initiative to do what she did. Also I wondered just what her darling daughter would think when she heard dear old mom say this.
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Kris, don’t you think Casey has listened to the interviews to see what everyone has said about her? She has the same access to everything we have right there on her laptop. I know she gets on Facebook every day.
When she gets a whiff of what her own mother said, there’s liable to be some more “heated arguments”. I honestly don’t see why there hasn’t already been a big blowup.
Of course Cindy could always explain it away by saying “well, sweetheart, that was 2 months ago. I didn’t know then what I know now, and if they interviewed me now, I wouldn’t say any of that”
Gumshoe, C says ” I don’t care what happens to Casey..we just want Caylee back” to the cops but does she really mean it? Maybe she’s just as big a liar when it suits her as her daughter is.
C’s actions and the things she said to the media don’t show that to be the truth at all. Trying to lay the blame on Jesse and Amy for example is the exact opposite.
So maybe she’s trying to play/use the cops for her own ends. Well, there’s no Maybe about it really.
mytwocents, right.
The family has already made money, and had Casey bailed out without spending a dime. They will have many other offers, and I am sure will sell info, pics, videos, and rights. They won’t have to worry about bankrupcy again any time soon for sure. And they may move into a much nicer larger house and drive newer, more expensive vehicles. It is conceiveable that Casey herself may be free to cash in on much of it.
If they can buy friends, friendly neighbors, happiness, peace of mind, nightmare-free sleep, and good health (after all the stress) then they are set. (well, except for having to watch their backs 24/7)
Casey may even have them another ‘short-term’ grandchild.
Yes, Gumshoe! Your note gave me a shudder – for a lot of reasons.
I know I’m getting ahead of things right now but I can’t help wondering if bail will be offered for the new charges. I think in some states they don’t allow someone accused of murder out of jail until after the trial. Not sure about that. But I am afraid that she’ll get tossed back in and will vamp-walk her way right back out again. This could be a very very long-term ordeal (for us I mean.)
hi two cents, yah I agree a movie or book at this point is lame, we don’t even have all the facts yet i mean we do. but the case hasn’t really been solved yet, or a trial even or for that matter an arrest, the movie would be like the peterson movie very lame it led up to the end with his arrest but I found it lame, and cause i watched it already playing out on tv I had not much interest… I love ann rule
Gumshoe, I was never implying that Ann Rule would or should write a book about Caylee.
What I was saying was that a true crime writer could write the book without paying the family a dime.
Most of the true crime best sellers I’ve read were written by reporters who pieced together the information from the police reports and trial. They also interviewed witnesses and sometimes the defendant and family themselves if they agreed to be interviewed.
The case is widely publicized in Florida. But I only heard about it because I watch Nancy Grace. I don’t get Greta or Geraldo here and it’s not on our news. I did see it on 20/20 because I heard it was going to be on from a blogger but everybody doesn’t watch 20/20.
I do believe that after the trial is over a book and movie may come out by a true crime writer but I don’t think they will pay the family to do the story. They don’t need to because the trial transcripts and the evidence is all public record.
I have never trusted any of these books or movies where family members or people close to the family are involved. It is usually biased.
yah when i read all the docs and texts i thought self incriminating like we see in serial killers that wanna be found out in some weird way cause she left behind way too much to be found out tried to delete stuff but left so much behind..maybe she thought her texts couldn’t be recovered.. but i was really stunned by the interviews done by LE these were done seperate from one another, and you can see alot saying bad things in a group about M but to have interviews seperately and then each one says alot of damaging stuff well. it was very telling for me those docs, much less the hard evidence already… its like in peterson when the amber phone calls came out then i was convinced, up till then all along i gave peterson the benefit of the doubt as i did M until so much evidence and then all the other stuff that followed, well i think at this point anything further coming out she is going awya without even a dam trial lol.. skip the trial and lock her away. i don’t recall any other case with this much details and evidence, even bundy was not found out for years and years and years
Is Equusearch back? I still think the police have more evidence from the searches but are keeping the info for now. I find it strange that Equusearch conducted the searches, rec’d 5K from LE and then called off due to weather…..but I remember that they did find bones and clothing just before that. Perhaps this case will have the whole forensic story and we haven’t been told.
Yes, Elle. Someone recently said that the search was on-going even now. I asked where and who but did not see an answer. At first it seemed scary – that maybe LE does not have the solid forensics that we hope they do. On the other hand it may be that LE has found SOME stuff but is looking for more. And if they have not for sure found a body they won’t give up. They too may be waiting for test results on what they have.
I believe that Baez is leaking stories that Casey is being offered millions of dollars for her story. Who would want to pay millions for a pack of lies?
I think Baez leaked the story that Lifetime and he inked a million dollar movie deal. Lifetime denies there is such a deal but Baez didn’t answer reporters calls.
I believe Baez is creating all the drama and then blaming it on the police. He said he told the police he would surrender Casey the night she was arrested at her home for check fraud while all the demonstrators were there.
Nancy Grace said instead of calling the sheriff’s department, he sent a fax knowing they wouldn’t get it until after the arrest because they get thousands of faxes. Then when they arrested her, Baez shows up at the Anthony home lambasting the police. He deliberately created the drama by not communicating with police.
Baez still refuses to allow Casey to tell the police when she last saw Caylee saying he heard it from the media first. He is creating drama and blaming it on the cops.
Yes, CaC! What’t the first thing he did when he got some money? Hired a PR firm. And I bet that a lot of this BS about rights deals etc is coming from that PR firm. They may have had no offers but figured if they announced they did then they’d create a competition among media to get them. Even though some of the media might not even really want them. They just want the ability to decide later if they want to do it. They buy righs to all sorts of things that never get published or filmed.
And I just loved/hated it when BB recently said that the evidence LE has collected has “not been verified” by the defense. Like we’re going to believe anything he says about the evidence? He just hasn’t come up with a good defense yet. And he’s desperate.
hi everyone
trying to go threw some of the released evidence 2day and it is clear cut that she is guilty and talking about a family in denial was wondering about m boyfriend has he backed away r still standing by her?
Concerned about Caylee said,in September 28th, 2008 at 10:31 am Gumshoe, I was never implying that Ann Rule would or should write a book about Caylee.
What I was saying was that a true crime writer could write the book without paying the family a dime.
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Oh, ok. I understand now and agree, and I have already thought that Mark Furhman might be writing one.
I hope some of the other true crime writers actually do write a book painting the Anthonys and the evidence in the correct light. The reason for that is, that most true crime writers (especially Ann Rule) dig into the family background, go back years into the childhood, and further, of the killer, which gives a lot more insight a lot of times as to the ‘why’ of it all.
Minnie, the boyfriend she was living with at the time of her arrest was Tony Lazaro. He said in one interview that he had not spoken to Casey since she left his house with Cindy the night Cindy made the 911 call.
He has been cooperating with police along with all of her many other lovers and ex lovers whom I assume aren’t speaking to her either.
Most of Casey’s friends and lovers were shocked that Caylee had been missing for 30 days because Casey had acted like nothing was wrong. She partied as usual, cooked pasta for her boyfriend, and when asked where Caylee was said she was at the amusement park or beach with the Nanny.
They were all shocked to find out that the dead body in the car Casey said was dead squirrels could be Caylee and that the job and nanny she told them she had were all lies.
It freaked them out that Casey had anything to do with Caylee’s death and now they want nothing to do with someone who had lied to them and may have murdered the little girl they all loved.
goodmorning all, maybe we will see justice for caylee after all, i feel a storm brewing, and i don’t think it is the weather
My Twocents, I think Fox is the only one paying for interviews. I bet Fox paid Jesse for an exclusive interview because he wouldn’t appear on Nancy Grace, his father did. I bet they are also paying Baez for the exclusive interviews. He told Greta she was the only show he’d be on because she wasn’t biased. He believes the other media is biased because they quote law enforcement and then ask him if it is true, putting him on the spot, which enrages him. Once he told them to get off his property when they asked him to react to the DNA test results.
Pammyliz, you’re right. It is the mountain of evidence against Casey that makes us think she is capable of such a heinous crime.
Elle, I know nothing about ongoing searches. The police said they didn’t dig up the Anthony’s backyard because they believe the body was there and dug up. Maybe, she buried it somewhere else in the yard. Agter they’ve searched every where else, I hope they dig up the back yard before they give up.
yah and the most amazing thing about all the evidence and things friends reported is did she really think she would get away with the story of kidnapping? but again we know now she had done research on missing kids.. that i think is why she acted as if everything was fine she wanted to be photoed, she wanted to act “normal” so that when she reports the child missing, she can sya look i acted that way cause ithought everything was fine ( her story of nanny)… but she was so stupid as was peterson that the LE can piece it all together, thats their job thats what they do, and she is like slapping them in the face to say your stupid, even on the tapes the investigator says do you think wer stupid?
i feel too something is abou to break this week, with the docs coming out and the reports of others saying the smell. its like what are they waiting for? this case can and will be won, by a landslide.. she will get a fair trial but anyone observing this case who is on that jury cannot dispute the absolutely overwhelming evidence, i bet she pleas out anyways cuts a deal baze has to know he can’t win this one.. she may cut a deal. we’ve seen it before… there is NO way to dispute 600 docs and texts and phonecalls you cant erase all that or explain it away
i dont even think it will be a long trial really…
that anthony rusciano is a winner isn’t he, those text messages between him and casey are very telling in my book,seems he didn’t like kids
Pammyliz, I don’t know if a sociopath ever thinks about getting caught. I think she may have made up the kidnapping story at the moment Lee was pressuring her to tell while Cindy was calling the cops. She loves making up stories so that might have sounded like a good one.
I think she made up Zanny the Nanny from the children’s book character because Cindy and George thought she had a job at Universal Studios so she had to have a babysitter since they both worked.
Most working parents take their kids to day care centers. I always thought nannies were live in babysitters.
I thought it was odd that Cindy said Casey often called and said she and Caylee were staying with the nanny.
I have a son who is a single father and when our grandson was two, they lived with us briefly while my son was traveling in his job. I took him to the day care center on my way to work and either my son or my husband picked him up.
If my son called to say he and my grandson were staying all night with his girlfriend or nanny, which he never did, I would have said I’ll come pick up my grandson so he can sleep in his own bed.
flowerchild said,in September 28th, 2008 at 12:16 pm that anthony rusciano is a winner isn’t he, those text messages between him and casey are very telling in my book,seems he didn’t like kids.
I wouldn’t say he didn’t like kids. I’d say that he was after sex from Casey and you can’t have sex with a two year old around.
I don’t think any of her lovers particularly wanted a kid around because they were always drinking, smoking pot and having sex. That is no place for a toddler.
poppin in for a few doing some reading
hey i second this 2cents;
“C’s actions and the things she said to the media don’t show that to be the truth at all. Trying to lay the blame on Jesse and Amy for example is the exact opposite.
So maybe she’s trying to play/use the cops for her own ends. Well, there’s no Maybe about it really.”
also
CAC
I agree the drama is coming from Bobo himself..
to get more attention to the case ie, him..
and also yes i agree all m’s friends are freaked and shocked by evidence that supports poor sweet Caylee’s deceased body was in m’s backyard and trunk…
thanks concerned about caylee with only being able to follow on websites its hard to keep up you guys make it alot easier for me to keep track.good to know that all m friends are supporting justice for caylee.was wondering do any of yous think that investigaters should of done more at anthony backyard maybe dig it up and also what was her reason for the shovel?
yes concerned that is true,but he seemed piss off because casey couldn’t come over as often as he like because of the offspring as he called her,as his statement hell we live in the same town,i think he was fixing to boot casey because of caylee,if you read those text messages that was the feeling i got
Pammyliz, they will be arresting her in a few weeks after they get the case put together.
Here is a story about the impending arrest:
Casey Anthony: The Evidence
Anthony Could Face Charges In Daughter’s Disappearance In Weeks
POSTED: 8:36 am EDT September 26, 2008
UPDATED: 8:50 am EDT September 26, 2008
ORLANDO, Fla. — Without a body, witness or confession, investigators looking into the case of missing toddler Caylee Anthony said they’re piecing together a circumstantial case like a large puzzle.
And they said they’re working to fill the holes that they believe Anthony’s attorney will try to punch through their case.
On July 16, Orange County investigators used Anthony’s own statements as evidence to charge her with child neglect and making false statements. She admitted her child had been missing for one month and she did not go to police for help.
“The horrible thing that happened is — this is the honest to God’s truth — of everything that I’ve said, I do not know where she is,” Anthony said.
She also admitted that she lied to investigators during their attempts to find Caylee.
“I placed her under arrest,” Orange County Sheriff’s Office Detective Yuri Melich said.
At Anthony’s first bond hearing two weeks later, Melich dropped a bombshell: Anthony was a person of interest in her daughter’s disappearance.
“They found hair samples in the trunk of the car that were similar in length and color to that of Caylee. They also found a stain inside the trunk of the car that came up under black light that is questionable that we need to process,” Melich said.
On the stand, Melich also said there was an overwhelming stench of death in the car.
“In my experience, the smell that I smelled inside that car was the smell of decomposition,” Melich said.
According to other sources, lab tests have been ongoing as recently as this week to “triple check” that evidence. Investigators said they’re confident those tests will provide “iron-clad proof” that Caylee’s body was in the trunk of the car, how her body was positioned and that strands of her hair fell out after she died.
Investigators have also confirmed that high levels of chloroform were in the trunk, and they said they’re close to determining the dates someone researched chloroform on Anthony’s computer before Caylee disappeared.
One investigator said there’s still a critical element missing: a definite motive and criminal intent for why Caylee’s body got in the trunk.
Anthony and her lawyer, Jose Baez, have said all along that she dropped off Caylee with a babysitter in mid-June. Neither the child nor babysitter has been seen since.
“She has absolutely no idea where Caylee is,” Baez said.
In a matter of weeks, investigators said they plan to arrest Anthony in connection with Caylee’s disappearance.
When asked about the possibility that Caylee was buried in the back yard of the family’s home, investigators said they believe if the toddler’s body was there, it was later moved, and after a thorough investigation of the yard, they believe it was unnecessary to dig there.
casey also stated you know what your getting into with me meaning a kid also i don’t think this guy wanted that,she said do you want me to bring the kid,no reply from him, casey said didn’t think so.
flowerchild said,in September 28th, 2008 at 12:35 pm yes concerned that is true,but he seemed piss off because casey couldn’t come over as often as he like because of the offspring as he called her,as his statement hell we live in the same town,i think he was fixing to boot casey because of caylee,if you read those text messages that was the feeling i got.”
Flowerchild, I don’t blame him. She was playing cat and mouse with him. Promising him sex and then saying she couldn’t find a babysitter. I think the truth was she put him off because she was having sex with Tony and other guys and wanted to keep him on the back burner.
I am shocked at the number of lovers she had. More surface every day. She was one hot tamale. I wonder if she won the hot body contest at Fusion. She sure thought she was hot and apparently so did the sex crazed guys in her life.
i also read that m refered to caylee as a snotnose,that it was harder work being with her than a 12hour shift at work,as a single mum i work 12hr days but it is for my beautiful daughter to provide a good life for her and never one tired day didnt i wish i could go home to be with her like all mothers out there doing the same. just why didnt m give caylee to her family and go and live her selfish life with all the men she wanted.
Flowerchild, she wasn’t having anything but a sexial relationship with Rusciano, the cop who got fired for lying about not having a sexual relationship with Casey.
She had a boyfriend, Tony Lazaro at the same time. After Caylee went missing June 16 she stayed at Tony’s every night, sleeping with other guys when Tony was out of town and even text messaged a marine June 16 in California she wanted to move in with him.
thanks concerned i had not seen this article, I had missed this somehow. wow.. well i feel something is brewing for this week.. we’ll all see. i just cannot stomach them coming out with anything more, even her remarks about caylee are appalling, I’m not gonna sit here and say moms dont say mean things under stress or say something that sounds mean were all human BUT that being said when you “piece” it together with other things, it sound so much more horrifying for poor caylee, i have images of M and caylee being together without C around where M was mistreating her I cant even let myself think abou thtat too long have to block out probably the verbal and physical abuse that went on when noone was around..
thanks concerned i had not seen this article, I had missed this somehow. wow.. well i feel something is brewing for this week.. we’ll all see. i just cannot stomach them coming out with anything more, even her remarks about caylee are appalling, I’m not gonna sit here and say moms dont say mean things under stress or say something that sounds mean were all human BUT that being said when you “piece” it together with other things, it sound so much more horrifying for poor caylee, i have images of M and caylee being together without C around where M was mistreating her I cant even let myself think abou thtat too long have to block out probably the verbal and physical abuse that went on when noone was around..
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/lifetime-should-not-pay-for-a-movie-about-caylee-anthony
This is the correct link to sign the petition. Cindy and George Anthony have been caught in many lies. In the recently released transcripts, they knew that the car smelled like a dead body. They told Casey friend that they were afraid either Casey or Caylee were in the car. They have lied about the last time they saw Caylee and others. The problem is that they are lashing out at the media, when the media is keeping the story in the forefront. Without the media, this story would have gone away. They are loving the media and will most likely profit from it. They need to quick making excuses for their daughter who is very “sick” and start cooperating with the police. Caylee deserves justice!
yes pammyliz i think that too and as irational as c is appearing now i feel that she was probly the only mother figure that caylee had it is heartbraking to look at her pictures and think what she has heard and been inflicted to by the one person who should protect her the most.
what a sl;;t she was,and sorry she is not as pretty as she thinks she is
well i guess we can all say that casey didn’t give a hoot about her child as all this evidence is coming out the only thing i didn’t see on the computer docs was the searches for chloroform and what they mean,LE holding for a ace in the hole maybe
well i am ready for casey to go down,she really makes me ill with that smug look on her face, i want to jackslap her everytime i see her,can’t wait to see her face when they charge her again for murder
must leave for work see u guys later
Concerned,
Forensic’s stated they are able to show what position Caylee’s body was in the trunk. Have you heard anything about that statement?
Hi Everybody
Anybody in here?
Hi everyone! Busy weekend! So, I’m still trying to catch up on reading everyone’s comments. I see that you have been actively trying to piece together the timelines,evidence and clues. Good job!
Pammyliz… If you would have dropped out of this site, I would have sent a Michigan posse out looking for you! I’m glad that your bee stung toe is better and I hope you got your car back. You know waiting for a mechanic to call back with a car problem is much like waiting for a doctor to call back with tests results. It’s nerve-racking, we hold our breath hoping it’s nothing serious. Hey, what you said about betting that monster takes a plea bargain, I hope they don’t even discuss one. She’s made LE run around on too many wild goose chases and so have the Ants.
Although I haven’t had time to read the text that everyone is talking about, I did view the two part Cindy interview. I’m still trying to understand that woman. I go back and forth trying to empathize with C because I know she loved Caylee so much. But, some of the things she said in that interview were impossible for me to believable. Although, I did hear the stress in her voice, almost to the point of breaking down, when she thought the detective was implying that Caylee was dead. I don’t know how much she believes now but during that interview you can tell that she’s too frighten to believe for a moment that Caylee is dead.
I’m going to read some of the text messages, so I’ll be going back and forth between there and this site.
Catherine,
We never heard anything about the stain in the trunk. Just that it glowed in black light. Suspect that position of Caylee’s body has to do with the stain.
Am sure that lots of important evidence has not been released to the public or even BB. They can wait with that till they finally charge her with the big “M”. Of the evidence that has been released , it points much more to child neglect. They(LE) are holding stuff that points directly to homicide close to their vest IMO.
MMT,
Cindy does not sound like a rational person anymore. Somebody should get her some professional mental help asap. It sounds like LE is trying to crack her because they suspect she is still holding vital info back.
Hey Pammyliz… keep trying to call NG … I think we would all being cheering if we heard a Pam was calling from Michigan! WHOOOHA!
Plus that’s a good question to ask, who we hope will be the new forensic scientist on her show.
Snookers, I think that C interview was done back in July… am I right? I too think that they were trying to make her crack. Anyway that may be another reason why C&G hired a defense attorney. Do you happen to know if he maybe stopped LE from asking C & G anymore questions.
C’s interview was taped August 1, I believe. That’s only two weeks after the first 911 call. And I am absolutely astonished at how much C already kept back from the police – I mean she should be charged with lying and obstructing an investigation! I guess we know that M came by her huge ego, controlling personality and lying quite naturally. From mother to daughter.
Also the text messages between M and buddy nyitaliano3 (the new cop who was eventually fired) are from about May 1 – May 19 which is when I thought she was having an affair with Ricardo Morales? Good gosh.
One more thing that I noticed you guys talked about was M driving C’s SUV and G following m. Was that true or did G maybe only “think” it could have been m because that REALLY does sound strange.
Supposedly C belatedly informed police that M had borrowed her car – what was it the last week in June? I don’t believe anything C says anymore. And yes G said he saw M and tried to chase her because they had not seen her in so long but he lost her. Not sure what car she was in at the time.
Mytwocents, I also think that interview also tells us how disinterested C was in m life. She didn’t even know Annie’s last name and Annie was a long time friend of m’s. From middle school, I think. Give me a break. When someone raises kids, it’s their job to know their children’s friends as well as the parents of those friends.
MMT
This is from orlando sentinel, but have read it in multiple articles. I trust it to be true.
Another little detail that Cindy withheld from LE initially.
Dad races down S.R. 408
Casey Anthony’s parents made desperate attempts to find Caylee.
George Anthony told detectives he saw his daughter driving Cindy Anthony’s vehicle and followed her from their house to State Road 408 in late June because he said he was tired of her “evasiveness.”
“My daughter was driving fast as she could,” he said. “I think she knew I was behind her. . . . I was trying to stay a reasonable distance maybe a 100 yards away from her.”
Anthony followed her to Hiawassee and Kirkman roads but lost her.
Casey Anthony continued to tell her mother and friends that Caylee was at various places — the beach or theme parks — with the nanny when they inquired about the child.
On July 3, Cindy Anthony went to Universal Studios hoping she could find Caylee. But she had no luck.
does anyone think with c interview that when she was questioned about dates and whereabouts of caylee and m that she realised that something had realy happened to caylee and that she knew only m could be the reason.
mytwocents, do we know the details of M borrowing the SUV? Did she ask C for it or did m simply have the extra set of keys for the SUV and ended up just taking it while C was at work or in the house. I’m not too clear on that yet.
I’m not clear on it either MMT. And I only read what I reported in my comment. Maybe someone else knows more? I don’t know the source of it either. If it came out in the interview with C I didn’t hear it. I wonder if I was watching an edited interview with her.
MMT,
Above quote is as much detail as we have on Cindy’s car borrowing. When questioned/confronted by Melich on August 1, she said “I donot know”.
Minnie, I think C has been refusing to believe that all along. And desperately trying to blame anyone and everyone else. And continues to do so. She’s just plain nuts.
After I saw her interview with the police and saw how she was trying to control the investigation I just gave up on her. Especially considering her behavior in the last two months since then. She obstinately refuses to believe that monster had anything to do with it.
(you can see that interview on the myfoxorlando.com web site or other web sites)
Monster is an avid runner has anyone thought about her running from the Amscot to her parents house on the 27th of June, and running back to Amscot. It is only about 4 miles each way.
snookers.. .thanks that clarifying that for me. It sounds like m was in the white car, which would have made sense. I wish G could have been more specific on the date… was it before 6/25 or after… if it was before, Caylee’s body might still have been in the trunk when he was chasing her.
I still would like to know if G went and got the gas cans out of m’s trunk or did she run ahead of him and hand them to him. If she handed them to G, he may not have gotten a full view of what was in the trunk. How close did he get to the trunk is my question. Close enough to smell an order coming from it? Too many questions and I haven’t read everything yet … I’m kind of behind your guys with what I know.
C. needs to look into the mirror and say “my daughter murdered Caylee”.
I do not believe that G. went into that trunk and got the gas cans. I think monster got them and gave them to G.
MMT – G said he saw M driving C’s car NOT the white sunfire.
All this crap with the Ant’s supporting monster may play well with the movie deal.
Catherine and MMT – Correct about M racing ahead of G to get cans out and slamming trunk shut and cursing at him. Not sure how close he got.
Catherine, I did once ask if anyone knew how far it was to the Ants house or one of her friend’s homes… So, I was thinking along those lines.
Catherine said,in September 28th, 2008 at 1:55 pm Concerned,Forensic’s stated they are able to show what position Caylee’s body was in the trunk. Have you heard anything about that statement?”
No, where did you read or hear that? It’s great news to hear that they have forensic evidence on more than just the hair. In the beginning, they said they sent 30 pieces of evidence to forensic labs. We haven’t heard what evidence and the results of those tests.
I have a feeling the results of those tests will come out just as they arrest the murdering monster. It just makes me angry that Casey snuffed out the breath of her own flesh and blood and is still free to breath fresh air.
Since the trunk air was saturated with chloroform according to the air tests, I’m sure she snuffed her out using chloroform.
Catherine – not ignoring your thought about M running from amscot to house and back but why? To get chicken nuggets and popsicles out of the freezer? She could have borrowed someone’s car – which she was doing a lot of around that time – and driven to the house when her parents weren’t home.
mytwocents, but the white car does belong to Cindy. It’s in her name.
mytwocents,
There has to be a reason why G. states monster was driving C. SUV. Was Caylee put in C. auto, and monster thought she could frame her mother for Caylee’s death? I think LE would have gone back and checked that out.
MMT, From August 1 interview.
Does not sound like the qwhite car to me
But detective Yuri Melich confronted Cindy about withholding evidence that could lead to Caylee.
“I asked you for your credit card records. I still don’t have it,” Melich said.
“I gave you receipts,” Cindy replied.
“You can’t hold it back,” Melich said.
Cindy apparently held back information about Casey borrowing her SUV at the end of June, around the time Casey claimed George had hit an animal with her car causing the horrible odor.
“Casey borrowed your green truck, George followed her and asked you and said she had borrowed your truck,” Melich said.
“I don’t know,” Cindy told him.
I know the white car that M usually drove was in C’s name. It’s a sedan. But it makes no sense for George to say he saw M in Cindy’s car unless he means the car Cindy usually drove which is an SUV.
mytwocents,
Could be her clothing smelled from dumping Caylee’s body somewhere, and she ran home changed her clothing and ran back to the Amscot with the freeze pops and the Tyson chicken.
How did LE know that monster drove her mother’s car? Sorry, I’m not clear on that info.
yes twocents,your spot on because c knows as interview goes on that her whole family is completely blown apart,caylee has been murdered by m and how can she admit to that,when she called 911, it didnt occur to her that it was recorded,now all she is doing is backtracking,and trying to coverup her monster daughter..
MMT, Trunk incident
Dad kept out of trunk
When investigators spoke to George Anthony on Aug. 4, he told them about an encounter he had with his daughter on June 24 — the day he reported two gas cans stolen from his shed.
He suspected she took the cans and had them in the white Pontiac she was driving. When he headed toward the car, she raced past him to get to the trunk before he did.
She quickly opened the lid, cursed at him and handed over the cans. He never saw inside the trunk.
Casey said she needed gas because she had been driving to Tampa to visit the baby sitter.
George Anthony recalled saying, “Where’s Caylee? What’s going on? I believe I need to know.”
Casey Anthony said she would talk to him and her mother later. And she abruptly left.
Monday Morning Therapist said,in September 28th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
“I did view the two part Cindy interview. I’m still trying to understand that woman. I go back and forth trying to empathize with C because I know she loved Caylee so much. But, some of the things she said in that interview were impossible for me to believable. Although, I did hear the stress in her voice, almost to the point of breaking down, when she thought the detective was implying that Caylee was dead. I don’t know how much she believes now but during that interview you can tell that she’s too frighten to believe for a moment that Caylee is dead.”
That interview was hard for me to watch. I do empathize with Cindy because I am a grandmother and I would be devastated if one of my grandchildren were believed dead. But she has the double whammy of her daughter being accused of murdering her own child.
I know in the back of her mind, Cindy knows it is true but is afraid it is her fault because she was so close to Caylee and I’m sure she said some words to Casey June 15 in their big fight over the money she stole that she is afraid may have pushed Casey over the edge.
I think it’s that guilt that’s driven her to deny everything and defend Casey. Whenever anything happens, we always say: If I had done this or that, then she would be alive.
If Casey is a sociopath and had no feelings for Caylee, she would have killed her no matter what Cindy did to have the freedom to party and have sex with every guy she wanted.
minnie,
G. was a homicide police officer he had to tell C. that all 911 calls are taped. Although, she could have been so upset she forgot.
The timeline around leaving the car at Amscot is confusing. Amscot person says she/he saw it at 7 am June 27. Tony Lazarro picked M up there around 11am and she had the food with her. And she claimed it ran out of gas. She would not let him near it.
But where did she spend the night before? I assumed it was at Tony’s where she spent most nights around that time. So how and why and when did the car get to the Amscot? Did she get up really really early and move the car there because it stank?
snookers,
I think G. made that comment about the gas cans in the trunk was to cover up for monster. I think he did say in that interview that he was the one who opened the trunk, and there were the gas cans I reported stolen. He wanted to give monster an alibi that nothing abnormal was in that trunk on June 24th.
Monday Morning Therapist wrote: I still would like to know if G went and got the gas cans out of m’s trunk or did she run ahead of him and hand them to him. If she handed them to G, he may not have gotten a full view of what was in the trunk. How close did he get to the trunk is my question. Close enough to smell an order coming from it?
I was just reading somewhere can’t remember where that George said she wouldn’t let him get near the trunk, that she handed them to him. So he didn’t smell anything then. But when he picked up the car, the smell was so bad that both Cindy and George were worried they would open the trunk and find Caylee’s body or Cindy and Caylee’s bodies in the trunk.
I wonder if Casey left her purse on the front seat because she figured her parents would get the whiff of a dead body and fear she was dead along with Caylee.
I’m sure everything she did was to get back at her parents and make them sorry for all the times she felt they wronged her.
Hi Concerned about Caylee… I’m not sure if anyone answered this question that you asked regarding the body position in the trunk but it was in that aritcle you posted several times. But it reads a little different that actual fact.
Here’s that part:
According to other sources, lab tests have been ongoing as recently as this week to “triple check” that evidence. Investigators said they’re confident those tests will provide “iron-clad proof” that Caylee’s body was in the trunk of the car, how her body was positioned and that strands of her hair fell out after she died.
The number of times that she borrowed someone else’s car from June 16 – July 16 is very telling. Her friend Christopher Stutz said she visited him either June 17, 18 or 19 and was driving a dark color jeep cherokee with NY plates. Was that Tony’s? And that’s the first report of her in another car that I’ve found.
So why? Because the little body was in there or the stench was. I’ll bet if we could piece together every date someone loaned her their car we’d find she did not drive hers much if at all during that month from June 16 – July 15.
Concerned about Caylee, I absolutely agree with everything you said,in your 4:11 pm post.
MMT,
The “stain’ in the trunk would have revealed the position
mytwocents,
The car broke down on the 26th and she asked two guys to help her push it into the parking lot. She said she put two notes on the car, and would be back with gas. She could have slept inside the car on the 26th if she took enough xanax to knock herself out. When she woke up she ran back home changed her clothes and grabbed some food and ran back to the Amscot until Tony picked her up between 11:00 and 1:00. Keep in mind she was a runner, so 4 miles would not be that far for her to run.
Catherine,
Why would George be lying. I donot think he even likes Casey. Proably the reason why he left Cindy, a while back.
For some reason monster mentioned more than once a little shed behind the Saw Grass Apartments. Is it possible she stayed there or put Caylee there when she drugged her?
mytwocents, I’m thinking that Christopher Stutz was wrong about m driving Tony’s jeep June 17, 18 or 19 because didn’t Tony say that he only let m drive his jeep once before he left on his trip. Then she got to drive it while he was away June 30th through July 4th. That would mean that just maybe Christopher was wrong by two weeks EXACTLY. Hmmmmm…
I have never read that G was a homicide cop. He’s always been described as with so and so Sheriff’s department. I don’t think he was homicide specifically. Doesn’t mean he wouldn’t know certain things but I just don’t think he got that far in the police dept.
Mytwocents,
Tony was not sure about the date he picked up M.
Could be the 26th.
Also wonder if Cindy’s suv was also parked at Amscot when he picked her up.
snookers,
Whenever C & G are interviewed G. always stays silent. However, the gas can incident he quickly jumped into the interview and started telling I think it was Greta about those gas cans. That was the only time I ever remember G. saying anything about monster. He justs sits next to C. on the sofa, and never says a word. The gas cans are part of an alibi created by G. to protect monster.
MMT, Thanks for reminding me that the paragraph was in the story I loved so much I shared it three times. I completely missed that part. Thanks also for letting me know when you agree with my weird reasoning. Everybody doesn’t.
mytwocents,
You may be right about G. not being in the homicide division. I will check back and see what I can find.
I am pretty sure Tony said, he picked monster up on the 27th.
thanks catherine,so with g being a police officer he would straight away identify a decomposing smell from car and also would know all police protocal with what steps they would take,questioning,and what excactly with current evidence charges that could be brought.
The reason I tended to believe Christopher is that he said he sat down with his mother to try to figure out the dates and that’s what they came up with! LOL! Oh, well.
Between the normal faulty human memory and the shock of all of this plus all of M’s lies it is really hard to piece together what’s true and what’s not. We just have to take a best guess.
Catherine,
There are quite some nights when Caylee was still alive that cannot be accounted for as to where she was.
Caylee was almost three and surely could talk. When Cindy had Caylee herself on June 15th, she would have pumped her. Cindy is withholding stuff IMO. An almost three year old would have talked about being locked up in a scary dark place. We also never heard what the fight on June 15tth, heard by neighbor,was actually about.
The ants are not truthful with LE IMO.
Concerned about Caylee, yes, you are so right on with what you said in your 4:05 pm comment regarding the C interview.
I also felt that she was being ridiculous when she wouldn’t admit that m was never in Tampa. At the time it was happening, C bought all of m’s BS, hook, line and sinker. I do think she has a lot of guilt for not protecting Caylee… but how can she turn her back on Caylee and protect m. It baffles me.
Someone on here once said something like “I wonder why C didn’t suggest that m go to college or get a part time job, etc.” I don’t think that m really let anyone control her. She may have been afraid of C, in a lot of ways but she always got her way by lying. I’m sure if C suggested any of those things she just told her to F off. That’s the impression I got of m from the jail conversations. What do you think?
bbl
The date(s) that Christopher says he saw her are somewhat bolstered by his seeing her later in the month – just running into her at one or two places. They weren’t seeing each other any more.
You know if we wanted to – and this is a lot of work – but we could team up to do some sleuthing. For example 2 – 3 people volunteer to look for all the dates people loaned their cars to her supposedly and/or that M complained of car trouble or pesky dead skunks. Then that team can divide up the interviews etc and get that info down on paper.
Another team can look into other aspects of the case. Just a thought. Maybe there’s a better way to do it or it might not be worth it at all.
Snookers wrote: about the gas can incident: “Why would George be lying. I donot think he even likes Casey. Proably the reason why he left Cindy, a while back.”
All fathers love their daughters even if they are angry over their behavior. I can hear the love in George’s voice when he said he believed his daughter and stood behind her and said he never saw her raise her voice with Caylee.
Both George and Cindy started lying and covering up for Casey as soon as she was arrested and named a person of interest in a possible homicide of Caylee.
Dysfunctional families fight as if they hate each other but always defend each other to anyone else.
MMT – Yes I think C and M had a very adversarial relationship for a long time. C lorded it over m and her “mistake” while personally enjoying and loving that “mistake.” And still using the child against her. I’m sure that M managed some of C’s bullying by just lying.
But M was fed up with it. I mean C even called her at midnight on a date to tell her she had to come home. I agree with C but to M it must have felt like she was still 15. And the “reason/weapon/anchor” that C used is Caylee.
I think they are both culpable.
CaC you said:
“Dysfunctional families fight as if they hate each other but always defend each other to anyone else.” YES!
Concerned about Caylee, it was funny because when you asked that question about the body position in the trunk, my first thought was that it came from that article you shared with us. So, frantically scrolled up looking for it and at first I couldn’t find it then WHAM… there it was… I was so happy to find it because that article was soooo great! And this time I copied it and put it in my Caylee file! Thanks! 🙂
Someone on here once said something like “I wonder why C didn’t suggest that m go to college or get a part time job, etc.” I don’t think that m really let anyone control her. She may have been afraid of C, in a lot of ways but she always got her way by lying. I’m sure if C suggested any of those things she just told her to F off. That’s the impression I got of m from the jail conversations. What do you think?
I agree. I think Cindy tried to control her but Casey was always passive aggressive with her lying and blaming everything and everyone else for what she did.
Hearing Casey’s jailhouse tapes with the F bomb every other word talking trash to everyone from Lee to Kristina to her mother, I was reminded of my daughter when she was a teenager. She went through that rebellious stage where she lied, knew it all and always had to be right, refused to take responsibility and blamed her brother for everything she did. Then she started using the F bomb and fighting with everybody in the house.
Unlike Casey who will probably always be a liar and know it all who has to be right, my daughter outgrew it and is now a responsible adult.
Concerned about Caylee said,
“Dysfunctional families fight as if they hate each other but always defend each other to anyone else.”
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If anyone saw the movie “Little Miss Sunshine” it reflects exactly what Concerned about Caylee is talking about.
Has anybody here been to BriansDreams? I just saw a picture of Caylee on a beach towel next to a picture of a pile of clothes that were supposedly found by searchers–the towel is there!
nite all will catch up in morning when its ur nitetime!bye
Concerned about Caylee, Most teenagers go through that rebellious stage in one way or another. But you probably never realized how much of a part you played in her overcoming that phase. You helped her become the responsible adult that you knew lived deep down inside of her at that time. She most likely didn’t “outgrow” it…she was guided out of it.
M on the other hand, didn’t have the role models she needed with her personality disorder. Instead the ones around her fed into it. She never learned guilt or empathy.
Since I read that article about fearless children, I now tell my grown children, “See, aren’t you glad now that I laid that guilt trip on you every now and them?” LOL
Mytwocents, I believe that Casey may have been able to get away from Cindy if she hadn’t had Caylee. But Caylee was the glue that bound them together. Casey needed Cindy financially because she didn’t want to work and she needed Cindy to take care of Caylee.
I keep thinking what the psychiatrists say about a sociopath pretending feelings they don’t have and acting like everyone else. I’m sure the moment Caylee lost her life, Casey stopped acting and pretending and became herself: the self absorbed party girl.
That’s why she blossomed so much after Caylee was gone. Now that the “little snotnose” was out of the picture, she had her freedom to do whatever she wanted. She didn’t have to live with her parents.
She stayed with whatever friend she wanted, partied and slept with as many guys as she could. She was living high on the hog until the wicked mother found her abandoned car, dragged her back to her house and all hell broke loose.
Now she’s back in the house of hell with the parents from hell, not out partying hardy with her friends. At least, she doesn’t have a child to take care of. I bet she still feels it was worth it.
DetectiveDeb said,”I just saw a picture of Caylee on a beach towel next to a picture of a pile of clothes that were supposedly found by searchers–the towel is there!”
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Deb, WOW…. VERY interesting!
CaC – I agree with all in your 5:13 post.
I would not be at all surprised if she is not imagining herself coming out of this aa a millionaire celebrity playgirl! I’ll bet she is. (Partly going by her smug smiles and high fives etc)
hey MNT I was missing but I am still here. glad to read your blogs too…no I just got alittle frustrated with the site, but all is well now… although i did have the busy bad week, thanks for the comments, yah exactly he first told me 550.00 for front back brakes thenn whammy now we’re not gonna have it done today and now you owe another 129.00. really upset me.. but what are you gonna do? can’t not have your car fixed. they hold it like hostage is why i hate shops, but deldom have anyone to help me fix it so i am in a way at the mercy… yah i was trying for along time now to call her show, (NG) I’d probably get so nervous tho would forget my question… lol
and as far as plea deal i see it in a way only because of the overwhemling character evidence and stuff baez can’t explain away NO WAY and i don’t know tho what she could possibly plea down to now from murder 1 pre mdeitated what can you plea to ? insanity is all…
ok where are you all seeing the towel thing?? tell me…lol
Mytwocents, I agree C did use Caylee as a reason/weapon/anchor. I’m sure that she’s sorry now that she did that, but evidently not sorry enough to let m accept the responsibility of her actions… Caylee’s death. Instead C is still trying to wipe up m’s messes. I’m pretty sure that this is one mess she will not be able to clean up like she does her home and property.
Although, they are both guilty… it is in much different ways. C uses mind torture while m takes it all the way to murder.
concerned.. abou ther stuck in house
yes and just think shes not had any sex for how long? LOL thats gotta be making her batty, unless shes gettin online to still “chat” about it… seeming as she had this “great sex” or best sex she said so nauseatingly… i’ve got nothing against it lol but to hear the details while during and after your baby is dead or gone is beyong comprehension so i am sure shes having quite a hard time in that house too…
Notice this article I found on the Internet was written by an RN so when Cindy told a friend Casey was a sociopath, then she was qualified to make that diagnosis.
Antisocial Personality Disorder Overview (Written by Derek Wood, RN, BSN, PhD Candidate)
Antisocial Personality Disorder results in what is commonly known as a Sociopath. The criteria for this disorder require an ongoing disregard for the rights of others, since the age of 15 years. Some examples of this disregard are reckless disregard for the safety of themselves or others, failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors, deceitfulness such as repeated lying or deceit for personal profit or pleasure, and lack of remorse for actions that hurt other people in any way. Additionally, they must have evidenced a Conduct Disorder before the age of 15 years, and must be at least 18 years old to receive this diagnosis.
People with this disorder appear to be charming at times, and make relationships, but to them, these are relationships in name only. They are ended whenever necessary or when it suits them, and the relationships are without depth or meaning, including marriages. They seem to have an innate ability to find the weakness in people, and are ready to use these weaknesses to their own ends through deceit, manipulation, or intimidation, and gain pleasure from doing so.
They appear to be incapable of any true emotions, from love to shame to guilt. They are quick to anger, but just as quick to let it go, without holding grudges. No matter what emotion they state they have, it has no bearing on their future actions or attitudes.
They rarely are able to have jobs that last for any length of time, as they become easily bored, instead needing constant change. They live for the moment, forgetting the past, and not planning the future, not thinking ahead what consequences their actions will have. They want immediate rewards and gratification. There currently is no form of psychotherapy that works with those with antisocial personality disorder, as those with this disorder have no desire to change themselves, which is a prerequisite. No medication is available either. The only treatment is the prevention of the disorder in the early stages, when a child first begins to show the symptoms of conduct disorder.
Pammyliz, You can see the towel on page five of the Caylee file on Brians Dreams.com.
Where was the photo of Caylee and the clothing found? And who found it?
Pammyliz, I hadn’t thought of that but most likely we can add sex addict to the long list of diagnosis for Casey Anthony. That must be hard on a sex addict to not have had sex for more than two months. She must be having Internet for phone sex.
Also, there was mentioned something happening on Monday around 6PM. Anybody have any ideas as to what?
Hi pammyliz! Hey, are you kidding.. if I called NG I would probably forget my own name. But, I would love to hear you on there… you would have a BIG fan club here!
I’m going to try finding that “BriansDreams” I’ve never been on that site before.
LOL i had thought of it just from the sound of how MUCH shes getting and now none and being 22 years old well.. hmmm… gotta be going cookoo shes basically been housebound since when july? theres always the poss of her having it tho and we know with whom i mean. yuk theres a thought i don’t wanna picture…
Photo was apparently from myspace. Psychic searchers from SOS apparently found them this week.
i keep trying to call i also tried headline news at least there you do get through but old call back NG just busy busy, i admire her and love her and a fan for years i would be too busy gushing over her babies and her to ask my dam question LOL.. reminds me of the old who wants to be a millionaire show, i got through (after aybe an hour trying) to the pre screen. and was so shocked when they answered , that they asked 3 quick questions, I was so shocked i was speaking to someone, i went blank and couldn’t speak lol i lost the pre screen attempt lol
I just saw the photo of Caylee lying on a pink floral towel, and the towel that was found by the searchers looks like the same towel.
I sure hope they can find traces of little Caylee on the towel or it won’t do any good. BoBo will say a million of those towels were sold at Target or wherever.
I actually feel sick after looking at that photo. I assume the police have taken all the items that were found by the searchers.
And I hope there is no connection between Briansdreams and Psychic Searchers because BB is going to call it “planted” evidence.
mytwocents,
The area must have been Jay Blanchard Park that’s where the other items were found by the searchers. Caylee must be in that area.
If the searchers found the towel does that mean the towel contained bones and the forensics labs are analyzing them? It’s sad but if they did find her remains, at least it will give everybody closure except George and Cindy whom I’m sure will deny the bones are hers.
If my grandchild was missing, I would want to know the truth even if it broke my heart rather than not knowing what happened and imagining something even worse.
I always told my kids no matter what they did I would always love them, and that they had to tell the truth and take the consequence of their behavior. They always did even if it wasn’t easy.
I was so upset to hear in C’s video interview that a bunch of m’s former friends got together at the Ants house a week after her arrest to compare notes and C – for the first time on Aug 1 – told the police that one friend brought over a bunch of Caylee’s stuff!!! Like a swim suit and so forth. Then she couldn’t remember which friend. She is almost as big an obstacle to finding Caylee as her daughter. I really just about hope the cops charge C with something.
mytwocents,
I think the towel would have some dna on it. Skin, hair, or saliva. I’m just praying that the LE get a break in this case.
C – me too for all of 5:51
Gotta go make dinner.
BBL
Oh, See wesh.com for new article on the trust fund being re-opened by C & G’s attorney.
DectectiveDeb,
Where did you hear that something may happen on Monday?
mytwocents,
That trust fund is a joke. They should call it the Anthony’s pocket money.
The Anthony’s are back receiving donations to help find Caylee. The attorney re-opened the Find Caylee Trust Fund after the bank closed it because of fraud allegations.
I’d like to know what they are doing with that money since all they do is sit in their house and come out long enough to fit with protesters.
Tonight they are also going to have another prayer vigil. The vigil was canceled last Sunday because of fear of violence. Maybe they feel the protesters have calmed down now they know there is enough evidence to put Casey back in jail. I wouldn’t bank on it.
Haven’t heard much on the protesters lately. Have they gone home?
i went to the site (briansdreams) and never found caylee what a m i doing wrong? i went through all the missing people
pammyliz, I also went on that site and couldn’t find it.
hi all still cant see the pic of caylee on brians site please help, also awhile back i had added to our friend list on our my space a caylee website or add a friend, since then the person whoever it is has built just a beautiful memorial of caylee… i had not looked and it made me cry, tons of photos, videos… i dont know who this person is who created it, but apparently whoever it is, had tons of family photos, and such if you want i can give the name of the friend on our page.. its truly beautiful and all the people leaving prayers… i would like to know who has made this site
yah read ,my blog i just posted this site on my space is just breathtaking what they created for her not really much about M just caylee… i am a user of my space, well its lizies page you can link from ours too… if you wanna be added to our page you can meet us and see us lol (only a few pics of mom) all about liz mnt let me know.
I searched for Caylee Anthony on the site and found a google search of Brian’sdream but I found no pictures.
pammyliz
Go to missing persons, then scroll down the pages until you get to page 3. Click on Caylee’s photo, and start scrolling. When you get to page 3 you are directed to put a user name in and a password that they supply. Then scroll down until you are on page 5. The photo of Caylee is the first one.
i found no pic they did have natalie holloway and madeline mcain but found no caylee…so i dont know what they are talking about a pic of towel and such, she said it was found on my space i could do a search on my space for a caylee site ( theres a few) and see , gbut on the one that we have added as our friend i dont see any pink towel pic and there are tons i had never seen before and a whole lot of videos, wow what a beautiful girl, so many shots of a normal loving life
pammy,
It’s on brians dreams.
ok will go look again my 3 year old is having a tantrum at the moment BRB
I did get there to her link but alls i saw was the psychis ideas and papers he wrote down his dreams hmmm dont see no pic
pammy,
You need to keep scrolling down the pages until they ask for the user name and password. I think it is at the end of page 3.
did not get to a password point
then keep scrolling
pammy,
It is on page 5 first photo.
nope no beach towel pic i saw a ton of photos past all the psychic stuff drawings and someones bare ass i am praying that wasnt caseys but i think it was…god
your close pammy, and yes that was the monster.
ok igive up too difficult and i kept getting advertising sites so i closed it out, i’ll take yoyur word for it that you saw it lol and i saw M’s ass and that made me go throw up
did you have to confirm that was her ass?? lol lol my god…why would someone have an ass shot of hers on this psychic website? this site had much too much advertsing, again any my space users if you wanna see lil old me and my girl we would like to add you…but please let me know in your request who you are..
I just went back into brians dreams and I had no problem finding it.
Caylee has a blue bathing suit on and a tan hat. She is laying on the towel.
Pammyliz, I didn’t find that picture either. I did see one of Caylee pushing a stroller wearing her backpack.
Catherine, Has the backpack ever been found?
I read a lot of predictions on that site by psychics that Caylee’s remains are in a landfill, underwater, buried in a grave in many areas but I assume those areas were all searched and they found nothing.
The psychics also said she was burned in a hotel room, she was buried alive after being hit over the head with a shovel and that she died from the heat in her car seat in the car. None of those sound right to me.
I bet the police believe Caylee was chloroformed and put in the trunk and that her body was in the trunk for several days. That may be why Casey was driving different cars during those mysterious days. She just left the car sitting a few days with the dead body while she drank, smoke pot, pole danced, had sex and text messaged all her friends to come party.
I am sure LE has the photo of Caylee laying on that towel that they can compare to the towel and other items that were found.
concerned,
I don’t read anything that is written on that site about Caylee predictions. I just went on to see the photo of Caylee on the towel.
concerned,
Oh yes, there were two backpacks found. One was a navy blue one and I don’t know about the other one. I know size 5 clothing was found which is the size monster wears.
I still think a guy helped monster dispose of the body. Monster may have something on him that would get him in trouble with LE. Just a feeling.
yah but which guy? hmmm. too many suspects there…and alls i heard was jesse passed his lie det, not sure about others there may be others invloved we aren’t even aware of that le hasn’t released never even though abou that till u just said that about helper. and then it dawned on me that they would not release that i bet, maybe thats what padilla was referring to that will shock the world that LE has an eye one someone else!!!
Catherine, I’llo take your word for it. I went through the whole site and saw lots of pictures and maps and predictions but missed the one of Caylee on a towel. You’re write law enforcement has it and will use it for evidence.
pammy,
I agree. Thar guy JP left Saw Grass Apartments very fast on July 17th. If you put Casey Anthony+JP in google search it pulls up a photo of him.
i never saw pic either, but will believe cathrine sees it, i just get confused easily lol or maybe it was seeing M’s ass that sent me into shock and disgust and i left… if anyone wants the my space page for caylee it is truly beautiful
who??? who is JP? u lost me? I dont recall this person
Catherine,
Moday was also sited on BriansDream Page 4.Sorry it took so long–family emergency
ok brb
I am just putting this out there. Jesse took a polt as soon as he knew Caylee was missing. Is it possible that Jesse helped monster after the poly test was taken.
I read that Jesse resigned from the Orlando Police Dept. on June 25 right in the middle of Caylee’s disappearance and the same night Casey called him about something. Can’t remember what.
Nobody has ever said why he resigned. His father told Nancy Grace he and the police department mutually agreed he wasn’t cut out to be a police officer.
I know Jesse loved Casey but he also loved Caylee and I can’t picture him dumping Caylee’s body anywhere. His voice caught when he talked about playing with Caylee in her playhouse.
I think the only reason Jesse stayed in Casey’s life was because of Caylee. He took over the job of being her father for 10 months after she was born even though the DNA test showed he wasn’t.
Casey dumped him for another man, which is typical of her and also of a sociopath. She just goes from man to man and all of her relationships were superficial. She had three female friends who weren’t that close because she lied to and stole from them.
pammy,
JP lived with Amy & Ricardo. It was said by Ricardo or Amy that JP hated monster.
ok found the JP pic and info but your saying he up and left on july 17th? did police interview him? and he is from puerto rico…weird…
did they do an interview was that in the docs?
concerned,
I feel the opposite. I think he loved monster and accepted Caylee.
are jesse and Jp same guy? i’m so confused…
pammy,
I don’t know if he was interviewed. I know the police were looking for him, and left their card with Amy or Ricardo to give to JP.
pammy,
No two different guys.
Catherine said,in September 28th, 2008 at 7:45 pm I am just putting this out there. Jesse took a polt as soon as he knew Caylee was missing. Is it possible that Jesse helped monster after the poly test was taken.
***
Catherine, Jesse didn’t find out Caylee was missing until July 15. He didn’t take the polygraph until a couple of weeks ago.
I thought the guy that lived at Sawgrass and left in kind of a hurry around that time was named Dante. Whether it was JP or Dante or both I wonder if LE has caught up with them to ask questions.
it would make sense to throw all the stuff about M ou tot media but hold back on other people involved ( again padillas reference) but to me they are not obligated to release anything and they certainly would not release a helper info to the media, maybe their just waiting to arrest M for murder and we be shocked at a second arrest? just hypothetical and supposing… I’m not sure she had help personally but it would all fit together. i dont believe LE woul let that out, thats like letting the whole case out but ehy have done so already lol.. but maybe this “shocking” bit would be held..
Concerned,
Well that blows that theory.
so in the interviews with police i read i am not sure if a JP was in there.. very interesting, and from puerto rico again very interesting… first i have heard of him
mytwocents,
All these names are running into one another. Dante was the auto parts guy who left Orlando on July 17th. The police went looking for him and couldn’t find him. He was supposed to move into Saw Grass Apartments but just picked up and left the area.
CaC – I think monster called Jesse that night because he might be depressed about the job and all. She offered to go to the beach with him that next weekend if he was free. He did not accept. I think she also said in that conversation that Caylee was or had been at the beach with the nanny.
What’s getting to me is that she was supposedly staying with Tony all during June except for when he was on vacation at the end and into early July. So why was she setting up dates with other guys at the same time?
lol all my theories are blwon soon as i develop them lol lol
my little mind is spinning with the JP guy.. i mean hes from puerto rico, passports , her telling a fellow inmate she gave to ex boyfirend, other theories i heard about her being sold. etc… but then what blows my theories is CADAVER DOGS, DNA, SHOVEL, CHLOROFORM so i rule out all kidnapping, selling, giving to real father, hiding, and the latest i heard cindy finding caylee, and hiding her herself to freak out M…
Thank you Catherine! Dante was supposed to move in to Sawgrass but has disappeared and JP was moving out but disappeared. Maybe we should be looking for one child and two adults – dead or alive. Thanks to Monster.
In any case lots of activity around Sawgrass connected with M.
catherine read your post about dante
weird cause that one psychic from michigan i watched in her talking to “caylees spirit” at the end she says ASK THE MAN AT THE CAR PARTS STORE!!! speaking from caylee did anyone watch that video I am sure you did MNT the michigan psychic who read a letter to M on tv and said that m did this accidentally but at the very very end she looks at the camera and says tell them mommy tell them what really happened and ask about the man at the car parts store
were dante and JP interviewed by police?
I still go back to Lee and Casey’s jailhouse phone conversation where she says Caylee is close. I think Caylee may be buried in that backyard or encased in plastic and hidden in the Anthony home attic. I don’t think a body smells if it is wrapped several times in plastic.
I keep getting this image of Cindy cleaning the attic and finding her granddaughter’s remains in plastic. Would she hand them over to law enforcement or keep them there and go up and hold Caylee whenever she misses her. I’d vote for the latter.
Cindy would never give up her daughter now Caylee is gone.
Google Casey Anthony+Dante Tucker Salati
pammy,
No I did not see a psychic talk about Dante. Where can I find that site?
Oh that’s wierd. I am freaking myself out about this Dante person. He works in a auto parts store so he could have access to chloroform. Maybe that’s what monster has on him, she will say that he is an accomplice for giving her the chloroform.
Howdy Ya’ll
and Good evening~
I am still reading the documents, they are so fact filled with information and hard to deny or contradict. I just am not commenting much these days as I am too busy to, sorry bout that, but just wanted to stop in and let you know I am reading your comments too! 🙂
Oh my goodness i will have to do some backtracking this was very very early on it was blogged about way back on here this famous psychic appeared on local news show with a letter she read to monster she states it was from caylee to M… she seemed genuine and i do know of her she is a real psychic… anyways she said she sent the letter to M it was the weirdest erriest thing i cried so hard but everyone shurgged it off… the lady said in cayleee words, that mommy u didnt mean for this to happen and i forgive you, tell them mommy tell them what happened it will be OK… dont let tony hurt you anymore and i know papa is hard on you but he just loves you so much, mama it wa sso hot in ther so hot… …(I am writing from memory) at the very end she keeps pleading with M to tell the truth about what really happened that it would be OK and she still loved her mama.. and then at the end she said tell them mama tell them to talk to the man atthe car parts store.. aand that is how she ended it, ok BRB someone told me they took the video down after that the show she appeard on i’ll try to find the link
concerned,
Google Casey Anthony+Dante Tucker Salati
yes I am hoping i can find it so you all will believ me LOL i know MNT and early bloggers on here saw this maybe pickles too. BRB im going to look for it, she clearly ended this with ask about the car parts store man , since noone else in media picked up on the national news this was locally here in detroit
pammy,
ok
LOL FUN TIME~ hehee
A cowboy walks into a bar and two steps in, he realizes it’s a gay bar.
But what the heck, he says to himself, ‘I can really use a drink.’
When the gay waiter approaches, he says to the cowboy, ‘What’s the name of
Your wee wee?’
The cowboy says, ‘Look, I’m not into any of that, all I want is a drink.’
The gay waiter says, ‘I’m sorry but I can’t serve you until you tell me the
Name of your wee wee. Mine for instance is called Nike, for the slogan ‘Just
Do It,’ and that guy down at the end of the bar calls his Snickers, because
It really ‘Satisfies.’
The cowboy looks dumbfounded so the bartender tells him he will give him a
Second to think it over.
So the cowboy asks the man sitting to his left, who is sipping on a beer,
‘Hey bud, what’s the name of yours?’ The man looks back and says with a
Smile ‘Timex,’ and the thirsty cowboy asks, ‘Why Timex?’ The fella proudly
Replies, ‘Cause it takes a lickin’ and keeps on tickin!’
A little shaken, the cowboy turns to two fellas on his right, who happen to
Be sharing a fruity Margarita and says, ‘So, what do you guys call yours?’
The first man turns to him and proudly exclaims, ‘FORD, because Quality is
Job One.’ Then he adds, ‘Have you driven a Ford lately?’
The guy next to him then says, ‘I call mine CHEVY, ‘Like A Rock.’ and gives
A wink.
Even more shaken the Cowboy has to think for a moment before he comes up
With a name. He exclaims, ‘The name of my wee wee is ‘SECRET.’ Now give me a beer.’
The bartender begins to pour the Cowboy a beer, bu t with a puzzled look
Asked, ‘Why Secret?’
The cowboy says, ‘Because it’s STRONG ENOUGH FOR A MAN, BUT MADE FOR A WOMAN’
Taken from WESH-orlando news (wesh.com)
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POSTED: 5:49 pm EDT July 29, 2008
UPDATED: 11:44 am EDT August 4, 2008
Jose Baez, the attorney for the mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, has been associated with some high profile cases.
Three big name cases of his were covered on WESH 2 News.
The most recent was in April of this year when Baez represented Nilton Diaz — the Lake County man arrested in the death of a popular boxer’s granddaughter.
Investigators said Diaz killed Wilfredo Vazquez’s granddaughter.
A jury found Diaz guilty on murder charges.
Then, Baez represented Kissimmee Mayor George Gant at trial in 2007.
Gant got booted from office and was forced to resign as a doctor when two patients accused him of touching them in a sexual way during gynecology exams.
The prosecution’s main witness refused to testify against Gant and the former mayor was cleared of sex charges.
In 2006, Baez took on Elvira Garcia as a client.
Garcia was accused of kidnapping her roommate’s 6-week-old baby.
Police found the infant safe in Kissimmee.
Garcia claimed the baby was hers, authorities said.
Taken from Orlandosentinel.com:
Family members of missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony plan to hold a prayer vigil for the little girl tonight, one week after they cancelled the weekly event to help “bring peace back to the neighborhood.”
Anthony family spokesman Larry Garrison announced Sunday afternoon that there will be a vigil for Caylee Anthony at 8:30 p.m. outside the Anthony home. Last week’s vigil was cancelled after protesters clashed with family members in the days leading up to the vigil.
An e-mailed announcement said the family is “appreciative of the respect that has been given to them recently, and feels that the vigil should be resumed.”
Three-year-old Caylee Anthony has been missing since June. The case has spiraled into a national media phenomenon and has attracted protesters to the home.
My comment: guess it seems that the Anthony’s can’t stand the peace and quiet again and Cindy needs some attention!!!!!!!! Bring peace back to the neighborhood???????? she IS nuts!
BB is out of his league with monster’s case. The Count would be much better.
The pychics name is Kimmie Rose Zapf
cj,
You are so funny. LMAO
i found it hope you can get there from this link, but looks like jan found this link thats how i found it.. have to go back and read jans blog on this psyhic…
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7328004&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1
CHSAH,
Your right. Alittle to quiet on Hopespring Drive. Bring out the baseball bats, and the hose again G & C
and I found jans blog she posted she didnt believe in this psychic.. i cried when i watched her tho…
http://www.bloggernews.net/117552
DetectiveDeb,
Have you seen this lady?
DetectiveDeb
If you did see her did you believe her?
Hi Catherine,
how have you been sweetie,
what’s your most remarkable idea lately with all the new documents out , texts and etc. on this case? REALLY something reading through them isn’t it?? What the Ants said a mere couple months ago verses their stance now?
I would fear for my life having m in the same room, let alone the same house, sighs..
Catherine,
Yes I watched this video and don’t know if I believe her or not.But it does make one think about this Dante real hard.
I read that Dante ran a girls club that Casey might have been dancing for.
Like so many in this country I have been consumed by this case and have been reading and thinking alot about Caylee and Casey. I can’t seem to remember where I read it but The club was supposedly near Sawgrass Apts. Maybe a mile or so.
DetectiveDeb
I found her site, but nothing about Caylee. Since Caylee is a 3 year old child the message that pammy said Caylee gave to her was more like an older child speaking. Don’t know how the spirits work with the psychic’s so they can speak with them, but I am curious.
I would love to hear Kimmie.
can someone give me the myspace site that I can find the memorial to Caylee? I’d like to see it?
I got the the site for the briansdreams.com and got to username and password but it requires that I purchase an “ad” before I can go any further. How do I get a password and username??????
Hmmm. I don’t remember it, sorry. I think if you google Caylee Anthony Memorial you will find it. I will go check.
Catherine,
If you go to cayleeanthony.wordpress.com it has the transcript of the message. Or I should say some of the message because some of it was not to be told to the public she said–only to the anthonys.
Chsash,
ctemp2008
oneweek
DetectiveDeb….thank you!
Just went to check out myfoxorlando.com and there is nothing at all about this case on the home page. They’ve buried it. Finally clicked on their web cams and then on the story they’d had last about this. The so-called live web cam at the Anthony’s house is still daylight. Maybe they took down their web cam to try to discourage protesters. I did read that one of the local news orgs was going to “remove their presence” from the neighborhood for that reason. Don’t remember which one though.
Maybe they will have more on the story this week.
CHSAH,
I just visited Caylee Marie Anthony Tribute that may be what your looking for.
Thanks, Deb
Catherine, thanks!
mytwocents said,in September 28th, 2008 at 7:57 pm CaC – I think monster called Jesse that night because he might be depressed about the job and all. She offered to go to the beach with him that next weekend if he was free. He did not accept. I think she also said in that conversation that Caylee was or had been at the beach with the nanny.
What’s getting to me is that she was supposedly staying with Tony all during June except for when he was on vacation at the end and into early July. So why was she setting up dates with other guys at the same time?
Thanks for the reminder. I do remember that.
She was setting up dates with other guys while she was dating Tony because she is a sex addict, sociopath and pathological liar. She has to have sex and have men worship her body. She has to be the center of the attention. It boggles my mind how many men she juggled at a time.
Catherine, I must be slow….I still can’t find it??? Is it a myspace website? or do I need to google it?
I forgot narcicist.
I was just thinking how C. going to react when monster is arrested for the murder of Caylee. What will her reacion be when she is shown Caylee’s hair with the black bands of decomposition on the strands of her hair. The stain in the truck being linked to Caylee’s DNA. How will she be able to finally accept the fact that Caylee is dead. The mother in me feels sorry for C. & G. because I know how much they loved Caylee. It’s just a shame that they didn’t get mental help for their daughter many years ago.
CHSAH
Google it
see y’all tomorrow
I still want justice for Caylee which means get the needle ready.
bye Deb
caylee has stolen
I can get the link for my space
cathrine dont you see my link above to the psychic? do you have email?
i can send it
its here jans blog also talking abou this psychic
if you all wanna be me and lizzies friend you can send a request to us as a friend and then link to caylees site or I can go get the link now for you
thats abou thte beautiful my space memorial i found and added to our page i dont know who is operating the site… but dozens of photos videos, and prayers from all over.. its updated and this person running it seems to be showing online day and night
catherine
just be prepared i criy each time i watch her speaking, believe in psychics or not its hard to listen without crying i mean crying.. the part about the man tho really really bugs me
she actually said the man who hid me at the auto parts store tell them mommy tell them about him, tell then youonly meant to hide me and not hurt me. and it goes on and on and yes she does say she has more messages for M and C
When G. poured the new concrete slab in the backyard over the July 4th week-end. Do you think it is possible that monster told her father what she did, and he went and got Caylee’s body and buried her in the back yard?
Catherine said,in September 28th, 2008 at 8:04 pm Concerned, Google Casey Anthony+Dante Tucker Salati
Catherine,
Never heard of him. What should I find out if I google him?
I googled and got nothing but message board gossip. Did the police interview him? Are those documents available?
Dante is a person police want to interview about the case. He disappeared on July 17th and no one has seen or heard from him. He is a friend of monster’s that worked in an auto parets store. The suto parts store has access to chloroform, because it is used as a degreaser for car repair.
i never knew of dante but now that i know you just have to listen to this psychic, do you have email catherine? i think the link isnt showing although i see it along with jans blog. abou the kimme lady..
she says the man at the auto parts store this tape was done back in august i think early august
to clairfy the friend we added doing the caylee memorial states they are not a family member nor friend, just someone who cares and it is not good about M so they are not pro casey, i do find it odd how many photos they have tho if they are not related, where did they get them? they have all kind so of stuff there like you can order a tshirt for 10.00 theres pins being made, but the site itself is just beautiful… praying for caylee.. all about caylee. but everyday on my space i get new bulletins on the latest on this case so its not someone who believes her but has to know her the name showing says the person lives in flordia
catherine here is the jans blog number she made an article all about the psychic you can maybe link from there the number it
117552
Geraldo-Update Could Dna Smell in Casey’s Car Be Enough for a Conviction?
Samples of dirt, hair, air sample show decomposition.
Air samples have not been used in court as evidence in a homicide case before.
Hair is a match for Caylee’s and dirt has discomposition in it.
Thanks, pammy
Catherine re dante,
if he had pure chloroform then m never would have had to research it online, PLUS they said the chloroform found in m.s trunk was pure, NOT the kind they use as a degreaser or cleaner, but the pure stuff which IS HARD TO GET!
I went to briansdreams and was dissapointed i could NOT get to page 5, even when i clicked the link for a free pass to get in, i could not. So i never got to see the pic of Caylee with a towel I read earlier was found, that was Caylee’s??? Whats that all about, when and who found it, do you know??
pammy,
I found that psychic Kimmie. It gave me the chills.
cj,
I saw it on Brians Dreams. You need to go to missing persons. Then scroll down the page, then click next page scroll again, click next page and so on Do not click on Page 5, keep clicking next when you get to the bottom of each page. Caylee’s photo with the towel is on Page 5 first photo.
As for the chloroform, Ricardo talks about in a sexual setting on his myspace. Dante could have been the supplier. The chloroform could have come into the store full strength and then they cut it with detergent.
Catherine,
I DO THINK they should “search” under that new concrete slab, I have thought of this many times, as well.
cj,
I really think they should too.
wow you too? me too i sent it to my sis and she watched it, i dont care who you are believer or not, it was chilling, made me cry like a baby, and mayeb its just her personality she was so sincere when she spoke… i was reading comments on that jan blog and alot did believe her or wanted to, alot wer mean, alot felt she may be psychic or just a good therapist playing on M’s guilt level… i just thought there was something to the car parts store man along time ago but had no knowwledge of this dante till you told me, so now i think thats weird, another blogger talked about caylee being in an airplane, heading to puert rico with M’s friends and that she was sold, ( found this on that blog comments)… amazing how many theories there are and still no asnwers!!!
cj
hard as i tired i also could not find that pic, isaw m’s disgusting ass shot tho, but no caylee towel pic.. I gave up
Found this info while doing a couple of Florida news searches.
This was sent to Sheriff Kevin Berry on August 14th, 2008 (handwritten) by Casey while in jail.
Sheriff Kevin Berry
August 14, 2008
I ask of your help at this time. If there is ANY way that I can have a meeting set-up with my father (George Anthony)! I would in everyway appreciate it. I know it is an unusual request but it is important nonetheless.
I was told that you could help me in this manner. I truly hope that it can be done and without causing any trouble.
Thank you so much for all of the help you have offered to my family, and to helping find my daughter.
Sincerely,
Casey Anthony
CAN YOU BELIEVE THE GALL????? SHE WANTED THEIR HELP BUT REFUSED TO GIVE THEM ANY???? I WONDER WHAT WAS SO “IMPORTANT” THAT SHE NEEDED TO GET AHOLD OF HER DAD…..OF ALL PEOPLE, WHY NOT LEE? FROM ALL ACCOUNTS SHE DESPISED HER DAD???? JUST FOUND IT INTERESTING.
Imagine LE trying to put the pieces together in this case.
I think they need to charge her with Caylee’s homicide. I do believe she will be convicted on the evidence.
I read that letter that the monster wrote to the sheriff. I wouldn’t comply with her little wish letter unless she told what happened to Caylee.
we have all blogged for how long now? lol months and each day it gets weirder i cannot imagine it getting weirder, but.. I am off on a new tangent lol i believe now that LE is holding back on an coomplice.. and hasn’t let that out and thats what padilla meant when he said shock the workd i believe he is privy to some stuff he isn’t leaking, for fear of jeopardizing this case, my feelings, i mean yah hes come out with alot but i do believe when we see an arrest of M we see someone else is linked and also arrested, and maybe thats whats taking prosecutors so long is piecing it together for trial, and not alerting anyone of the accomplice for fear of fleeing flight risk etc… this new dante info really tripped me up tonight and going back to the psychic… wow… this case is like a mystery novel you just keep reading and it never has the ending, i pray this week something happens. i pray the story of her being taken to puerto rico could be true i pray each day she is still alive but its like this glimmer of hope…
pammy,
I agree with you LE is not telling the public everything they have. I also think there is someone that flipped and that person is in the wings. I also think they have found Caylee.
The Ant’s backyard new cement area was probably the grave that monster first put Caylee’s body into. George felt monster did this and decided to cover the area with new cement.
Well, pammy gotta go to bed talk to you tomorrow.
what do you mean someone that flipped and that person is in the wings? yah i kind of have that same awful feeling too that when the search stopped they had found something. that man tim miller said he wasn’t leaving till he got her home, no matter what…and… whats even more shocking is he hasnt appeared on NG since then not once, to say why the search stopped etc…maybe even NG knows you would think she would do a phone interview thing with him and ask him why have you stopped. he hasnt been seen since.. toot quiet
found a copy of the orange county sheriff’s office computer forensics report too.
A keyword search for “Zenaida” revealed that a user searched numerous times on the internet for the name Zenaida Gonzales and also Zenaida Fernandez on July 16, 2008.
hi every one anything new just got home from work
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WOW the hand written letter from m to have a ‘visit’ with her dad…
HUMMMM
COULD HE BE THE ACCOMPLICE????
G and M did the hiding of Caylee together???
the mom and every one of the ants in on it, somehow??
sorry i missed you Catherine and any others who left for bed,
i probably will shortly myself..
i got your messages Catherine and will try to find the page 5 as you described – also where is this gross assshot coming from of m, humm
cj….makes you wonder huh??? she couldn’t stand her dad, he would be the LAST person I think she’d want to talk to????? Unless……she needed him to do her a favor??? (wink..wink..). It seems to me she would ask for Lee???? Just found it really odd???
wow looks like things are heating up for casey been reading your post very interesting stuff going on i read the computer docs,but didn’t see anything on the cloroform searches anybody know why
I just read on another site that tonight on geraldo a source within the investigation(sounded like source from Body Farm) that all the evidence tested so far is consistent with Caylee but cannot definetly prove she is dead. And these were the air samples. And the whole air sample evidence has never been tested in any court in Florida.
I wouldn’t hold what Padilla says to reliable> do you really think LE is going to give him this info and I can tell you he didn’t get while Casey was first out. He is just saying all this to keep in the media for publicity because his Bounty Hunter show got scrapped, And he was offerred an $30000 book deal.
I watched Geraldo tonight, and the evidence for the hair and dirt shows Caylee’s decomposition. The air test has never been used as evidence in a homicide trial to date. This does not mean that the results from the air tests are not valid.
Leonard Padilla is more involved in this case than we think. The girl that was placed inside the Ant’s house has info that can be used against monster in a court of law. She has asked for immunity from LE which she will most likely get. Leonard Padilla knew exactly what he was doing when he put that girl in the Ant’s home. Monster took to that girl, and began talking to her about the case day one as per Leonard Padilla.
I personally think its bul because one Baez told Casey not to talk to anyone, two I don’t think Casey is stupid enough to confide in someone she doesn’t know with something that could incriminate her, get real people.And if she did confide you could pretty much guess its all lies.
She talked her head off to Rob Dick everyday. She told Rob about Jay Blanchard Park, the script etc. so I think little miss monster doesn’t take orders from anybody even her little nobody lawyer.
that’s right catherine, the girl really doesn’t know when to keep her mouth shut
The State is going to charge her with Caylee’s murder. If you think for one minute that LE has told the media everything they have on that monster your naive.
Well we are taking the word of someone we didn’t trust for getting her out of jail, sounds a little absurd. Everybody was so dead against Padilla and his bodyguards and now that they jumped on the band wagon and are turning against her you are all for them. Considering the way he came into this case and with what he is saying now i can’t believe it. What makes people think Padilla and his team aren’t making up this stuff.
Flower,
She thinks she has pulled off the perfect crime. I think there was someone that helped her and that person has flipped and that is probably going to be the big surprise that the whole world will be shocked about.
I also think they found Caylee.
They may be able to charge her with a disappearence but I still don’t think they have enough to charge with murder. I mean they may have the DNA evidence and statements which to me don’t really say much for a murder charge. They still have to prove SHE killed Caylee and without a body or weapon it isn’t going to happen.
who has flipped out catherine are you talking about c, and what is you thoughts on they found caylee please tell, i am on pins and needles
I wouldn’t hold too much stock in Padillas big suprise. Padilla doesn’t know no more than any of us do unless he is getting inside info from LE that we aren’t.
Padilla really thought he was going to have access to the monster, but fatty said no way. He came here to help find Caylee and when he read the first 400 pages he was the first one to say he was wrong. Now he wants to help put that monster behind bars. I say the more the merrier to make sure that monster gets the death penalty for what she did to her baby.
sorry dak but i think padilla is working with LE,
I just think people are taking evry little thing that comes up against Casey as Gods word. And people who believe everything that someone who first of all lied about finding Caylee within a week, and all the other BS he put out then they are naive. Do you really believe everything Padilla says , or his goonies. They are strictly in for the publicity just like you people accuse the lawyers and anybody else associates with Casey or the Ants.
I personally have not seen one shred of anything Padilla or his posse have said or talked about. He probably doesn’t have the phone records either because he hasn’t released them either.
DAK- DNA IS POWERFUL EVIDENCE.
Each fact alone is weak, but weave it together with the DNA and you have murder 1
Hi Everyone!
I think Padilla got involved hoping to find leads on other things that would make him money.
He knows which side of the bread the butter is on and it’s not on the Anthony’s side.
and you have to consider all this evidence coming out shows you the frame of mind casey was in, and dak didn’t you just said in your above post about your source, talking about xanax and chloroform to do with caylee
He has the phone records Dak
Well Flower you can believe he is working with LE but I seriously doubt it. Like I said he isn’t telling us anything we didn’t already know. And he did say in the beginning that Casey wasn’t talking to anyone while they were there and now he says she did(lie). And when he read the first 400 pages and the air sample he did a complete turnaround because he didn’t want the death threats anymore. He said that himself and the more NG lets him on her show the more publicity he gets and the more BS he spills. I didn’t trust him from the start he was and still is too Shady.
Who was the friend from NY that called him to get involved?
Flipping thru the channels tonight, I stopped at a rerun of Mama’s Family. Vincent was getting married to an illegal alien to help her get a green card. Her name was Zenaida.
How weird. I only caught the last 1/3 of the show–but I wondered if her last name was Fernandez or Gonzales—could be another place M found the name.
Hey RV thanks for the corrections on the phone record. Catherine I understand the DNA facts as evidence can be murder one but my point is without cause of death or time of death and some physical evidence connecting Casey they really can’t prove it was her.
every little thing to do with casey is adding up to bigger things everything she does or doesn’t do is very telling,she doesn’t report her child missing for a month,and if cindy didn’t find her,she wouldn’t have said anything about caylee missing
flower,
There is a guy by the name of Dante that worked for an auto parts store. Chloroform is a degreaser that is used when cleaning cars when mixed with detergents. Ricardo mentioned on his myspace that chloroform was used by some people engaged in sexual activity. Dante could have been the supplier. Monster could have gotten the chloroform from Dante and then threaten to go to police if Dante told police where the police where the chloroform came from. Dante left Orlando suddenly on July 17th and no one has seen him since. The police have been to Amy & Ricardo’s looking for him since he was their friend and was supposed to move into Saw Grass Apartments, but he has diappeared.
Someone said, Dante had a string of girls that were working for him. What, I can only imagine.
I think they can get a conviction in that state judging from what I’ve seen so far Dak…that doesn’t mean she did it though.
Her lack of concern, type of friends, and even her own family is against her as far as proving her innocence.
so catherine your belief they found caylee any insight to that?
Maybe Dante was the one who killed Caylee and thats why he left town.
They were probably using chloroform to knock people out for criminal purposes…not just for use on Caylee.
Dak, I respectfully disagree. Time of death is between June 16th and July 15th. Physical evidence is the DNA. The evidence was found in monsters car. The motive: Jealousy and hatred of her mother.
I’m sure if they found Caylle and could prove it now Casey would be in jail.
And where did you hear the time of death.
Some may pretend to be selling perfume and when the potential customer takes a whiff they are knocked out and robbed.
rv
I agree.
RV what are talking about.
There are others who will stalk someone and try to get them out of their vehicle for the purpose of removing their internal organs
The last time Caylee was seen was June 16th and monster was found by her mother at Tony’s apartment on July 15th.
one thing on the text messages with buddy guy he said something kind of off the wall, about something he and casey was talking about and mention caylee that if she was occupied by another adult struck me as kind of in a sexual content, i am going to read again later just to make sure
Okay they would have to come up with a narrower time frame of death if they plan to get a conviction
rv,
Are you talking about body snatching?
Body snatching there’s a good one.
Flower, that’s just “deputy dawg” talk.
He claimed to be a New York Italian…tough talker, but pants pisser I’m sure.
That’s what LE is doing with their calendar right now. They are narrowing down the times she was with someone and the times she was alone.
hey it’s been done catherine,just seen something on that on the news, about a guy selling body parts yuck!
Thought you might like that one Dak.
Yes it has and it done, but not with Caylee’s DNA on the evidence.
These people seem to be more into illicit sex, drugs, and alcohol because they think that’s normal college behavior. They are probably just robbing people to get by through Id, credit card, and check fraud and some drug dealing.
reasonablevoice like the deputy dawg reference
Lol!
“Shore is a puny lookin’ lil’ ole’ thang.”
An old cartoon…remember.
flower,
Cadavers were stolen and sold for parts to universities. Human kidneys were for sale on ebay until they made rhe sicko’s remove them
well i hope something happens soon this is really getting to me, this case is alittle bit to much than some of the other child murders, even though all child murders are so senseless
I doubt the real “kidney snatchers” will ever advertise online.
We can speculate about this case until pigs fly. When LE is ready they will charge that baby killer with murder, and I think she will be convicted.
on ebay for real, that is so gross
Dak,
Yes, someone wanted to sell their kidney online for $ 50,000.00
Yeah…I shouldn’t have brought that up…sorry.
Well goodnight all.
I thought I heard once that someone tried to sell their child on ebay
that is true catherine, not really much we can do but sit and wait,but god it is almost four months now and really no closer to the truth than when this first started
nite reasonablevoice
catherine you never said why you think they found caylees body?
I think we all agree that Caylee is dead. Now if we go down the list of suspects and their alibi’s we can conclude that one person has done nothing but tell lie after lie after lie. When you ask yourself why all the lies? It’s rather easy to understand why someone would evade the truth, it would incriminate them. Period!
well i am hitting the hay to maybe something interesting on nancy grace tommorrow, will see you guys in the am nite
flower,
The search was stopped abruptly after Equusearch stated they were going to stay in Orlando until they found Caylee.
Night, flower I’m going to bed too. Good night all.
I JUST READ THAT THE STUFF FOUND THAT LOOKED LIKE IT COULD BE CAYLEE’S TOWEL AT THE BEACH IS NOT, I EVEN VIEWED THE PHOTO UP CLOSE AND IT DID NOT MATCH THE PRINT ON THE TOWEL, THE COLORS DID FROM A DISTANCE THOUGH ;(
SO NO DICE ON THIS ONE. SORRY TO SAY..
ALSO I READ WHERE ANOTHER BLOGGER THOUGHT WHEN M REFERRED TO THE ‘NANNY’ IT WAS ACTUALLY M HERSELF IN A ZANNY ‘XANAX’ DRUGGED STATE…
ALSO SOME BLOGGERS MENTIONED THEY THINK M WAS STAYING IN A VACANT APT PERHAPS AT SAWGRASS AND WOULD LEAVE CAYLEE THERE (DRUGGED) TO SLEEP FROM XANAX AND OR CHLOROFORM, SPECULATING THE LAST TIME SHE MAY HAVE COME BACK FROM A PARTY OR OTHER ADULT OUTING TO FIND HER DEAD AND PANICKED AND WON’T REVEAL WHAT HAPPENED, BECAUSE SHE KNEW SHE CAUSED CAYLEE’S DEATH. OBVIOUSLY..
Catherine blogged;
“She thinks she has pulled off the perfect crime. I think there was someone that helped her and that person has flipped and that is probably going to be the big surprise that the whole world will be shocked about.
I also think they found Caylee.’
I SECOND THIS ONE!!
PS sorry i wasnt here to reply to others who
commented back to me earlier but i was away studying others comments at other sites that others here mentioned here that were of interest..
ALSO remember ages ago when Padilla mentioned EVERYONE would be shocked to hear about something – this was after they did the DNA testing from the stain etc in the trunk of m’s car?
Padilla said that Lee and Cindy would be shocked??
MAYBE IT WAS THAT G helped M?!!
Catherine at 9:25 pm you wrote:
“How will she (Cindy) be able to finally accept the fact that Caylee is dead.”
I seriously doubt that C ever will accept that especially if there is only scientific evidence. One thing the video of her interview with the police showed was that she would not listen to reason, would not use common sense. Would only accept what she wanted – without recognizing the rest. And would only think in terms of the child being alive and monster innocent. She is so entrenched in that thinking now that I believe if she was shown a time stamped video of M killing Caylee in broad daylight she’d still deny it was true.
goodmorning everyone up early this morning, i blieve they have found caylee to, and as padilla said something that would shock the world he did not mention george at all in that comment he made which i found kind of strange,just lee,cindy and casey knew something after the dna came back,don’t you think that george wouldn’t know it to,are was he not privy to that information.
also new blog open with no post as yet,117934,caylee anthony,help find caylee anthony trust fund reopen
also thought it kind of strange that casey wanted a meeting with george while she was in jail,just him, thought it also strange that she mention to someone her dad was in the hospital for mini strokes and she had to leave and go to the hospital,i think on the text messages to amy, i don’t think george ever went to the hospital, did she have to meet him somewhere? that story turned out to be a lie to,george never went to the hospital
FC, why do you think they found Caylee…do you have a link you can share? I so hope this ends soon with a murder conviction for miss m.
Catherine, why do you think they found Caylee?
Hi, Elle!
Looks like some folks moved over to Jan’s newest article on bloggernews.net
It is number 117934. Just substituted that number in your browser for the number that follows .net/
See you there!
OKAY going to meet ALL over at
117934
The Anthony family should not be allowed to profit from this tragedy. I am still trying to understand how a parent allows her child to go missing without involving the authorities. This is a three year old child! My 23 year old son was involved in a car accident Friday night, you would have thought it was my 11 year old. I was a total mess. I tried leaving the house in only a skirt. That is how bad I wanted to get to my son. I just don’t get Casey or her family.
trish we all moved to another blog number 117934
put that in your curser and chane your blog number you’ll find us
heres the link where we moved
http://www.bloggernews.net/117934
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