This just in from TJ Hart -Jan Barrett
Misty Croslin saw bones on her recent visit to a dock along the St. Johns River, but they were not human bones, according to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.
A tip last week led investigators to conduct an intense three-day search at the Shell Harbour boat ramp south of Satsuma in Putnam County.
Haleigh Cummings has been missing since February, 2009, and Misty Croslin is the one who said she put her to bed that night.
Croslin, now jailed on drug charges, was brought in shackles to the boat ramp.
Here is the Press Release:
MEDIA RELEASE
Date: April 21, 2010
The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office has received numerous inquiries regarding the recovery of the skeletal remains of missing 5 year-old Haleigh Cummings. A rumor has spread throughout our community that her body has been located. This rumor is false, and this information has been vastly misreported and sensationalized by the media.
The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office did recover animal remains such as alligator claws and teeth, and a multiple animal bones. The agency had an anthropologist at the scene that identified all “biological” items that were recovered as being non-human. Additionally, Misty Croslin could have easily seen these items while she was at the dock while the dive operation was in progress.
In an effort to prevent this false information from impeding our investigation, Sheriff Hardy wants to quell these rumors so we can maintain our focus on the criminal investigation.
Lieutenant Johnny Greenwood
Putnam County Sheriff’s Office
TJ Hart
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I wonder if LE “let” M see the bones on purpose and did NOT tell her they were animal bones – just to see her reaction. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
So if LE is saying they found no human bones, then what is the basis for saying this is now a homicide investigation? What is the basis for telling families they should start planning a funeral (or memorial)? Gosh. All this activity and still all we have are rumors and speculation. Not sure LE has any more than that either. Geesh.
NG and AH along with Granny just need to shut up until thier get real facts.That way they won’t look like such idiots.KWIM
I hope they did M2! It looked like she was crying at one point and being console as she was walking away?
LoL@Winter,everybody says,stick to the facts,well how can we when they don’t even know!
Does anyone know by what means (car, boat, air) that Joe Overstreet took to return home to Tennessee?
Mercedes, Joe went home in a Cadillac with his friend Jennifer. IT was a planned vacation trip and the leave date going to Tennessee from Florida had been planned before they ever left Tennessee.
You know, it occurs to me that NG and AH might one day make an actual reporter and journalist, if they learn that their own fertile imaginations are not creditable sources.
Sorry Mercedes,I dont!!
Was Haleighs middle name Marie.dunno why i forgot that….sheeeeesh but its not on the amber alert poster!
Sorry Mercedes,I dont!!
Was Haleighs middle name Marie.dunno why i forgot that….sheeeeesh but its not on the amber alert poster!
Hey CathyJo
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/sittin-on-a-fence-post/
and then this
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/free-ronald-cummings
All i can say is,n/g or ah knows if they may be amongst the unexcusable and unexplainable one day,i mean really….Just an example..not saying i want or wish it would happen but i mean what if n or a had a child missing and then we said,they werent watching them! ya know!
and then bash them for eating!
So then, the only reason RC was told to make funeral arrangements is because MC, TC have confessed everything, and they have the cinder blocks? Doesn’t sit well with me. Mrs. Sykes said she won’t believe Haleigh is gone until they bring her a body.
even if theyre guilty as sin,its still not a matter to play with!
Yes, Haleigh Ann Marie. I remember how odd it was because Caylee rhymes with Haleigh and then the middle names were the same.
I wonder if LE told RC not to make a fuss or threats towards Misty during his visit to the jail. Maybe LE didn’t want RC to make any statements to the Media or through his attorney that would “spook” Misty. By saying he isn’t angry but hurt that she didn’t trust him enough to tell him they can keep Misty talking. But if RC had released or made a statement like “Misty is a dead woman” she might clamp up and not say another word. Just a thought. I’m SURE the whole thing with Misty on the dock and the bones was to shock her…and then putting her in the car with Tommy….I’m sure they were recording everything they said and it was intended to get more info. Maybe they told Crystal and Ron they were going to release a statement saying they had told them to start funeral arrangements (as a ploy) and then would take Misty down to the river and show her some bones so she would get freaked out and fess up. This whole thing could be a ploy to get these people to talk. Did ANY of that make sense? LOL
Right and now Shockwave,HMC……Hank & Misty Croslin!
http://www.news4jax.com/news/23217461/detail.html
finally AH got caught!
I think too deep i guess,lol
Misty must have told Tommy they were Haleigh’s bones then Tommy tells Lindsy and then Lindsy tells AH then AH tells NG.
maybe Jb,b/c it may have been why they said not to let media know!
true too KyMom!!!
But he’d better start making sure,lol
I hope they did,
and if they did,i know i would have confessed it right then,actually from day 1 i would have but you kwim!
Brb phone
This being a ploy to shock Misty and get her and Tommy talking would make sense as to why LE told them to plan a funeral, would explain RC’s expression when he walked out of the jail after meeting with LE, etc. AH and NG messed it all up with their “breaking news”! Good Going! Now LE had to come out and say they WEREN’T Haleigh’s. But I bet Misty and Tommy’s reactions told LE whether they were in the right area to search for Haleigh and can be used against them in court. If Misty got in the police car and said something like “Those @*%&#^ think they found Haleigh because they showed me some bones but there is no way because her body is actually ___________ (insert actual location)” then LE would know where to look for real. I think Misty and Tommy’s reaction told LE what they needed to know…..IMVHO Sure was smart on LE’s part if that is the case. They know they may never find her body in that river so they are gathering as much circumstantial evidence as possible….including Misty and Tommy’s reactions to the bones on the dock.
If this “Ploy theory” is true I certainly feel better about RC’s expressions and demeanor when he left the jail. It totally explains the look he had AND the comment through his atty that he isn’t mad at Misty, blah, blah, blah.
WinterRose said,
in April 21st, 2010 at 12:40 pm
NG and AH along with Granny just need to shut up until thier get real facts.That way they won’t look like such idiots.KWIM
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AMEN!!!
Shockwave said,
in April 21st, 2010 at 1:01 pm
So then, the only reason RC was told to make funeral arrangements is because MC, TC have confessed everything, and they have the cinder blocks? Doesn’t sit well with me. Mrs. Sykes said she won’t believe Haleigh is gone until they bring her a body.
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Can you believe that crap? If that is all they had and they brought the families in and told them what they did on just the word(lies) of Misty and Tommy, then shame on them.
IMO PCSO showed their hand to the POI’s last week and are connecting the dots and it is just a matter of time before the cover up is exposed.
I wonder if Ruby is willing to tell what she knows now.
JB – good point about RC and attorney stifling their real reactions.
Also, ky mom, AH got it right. He said it has not been confirmed that the bones were Haleigh’s. Then NG completely ignores that and says they ARE Haleigh’s. She needs to go work for the “National Enquirer” or some tabloid talking about “baby bumps” and crap like that. Hee hee.
Mercedes: Joe’s attorney stated that Joe traveled to and from with “his friend” and also that it was a so called “planned visit”…YEAH, RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had posted last night on the last article about that. I almost got through to Mizz Nancee and was gonna ask that question. Where are Joe’s airtight alibis???
So far we have none for his traveling buddy, and none for his whereabouts on the horrible night Haleigh was taken.
ANY COMMENTS?? Anyone? Someone better answer me or I’m gonna hafta’ get Grandma Hollers on that ole darn phone.
Last night one of NG panelists said something very obvious: That if LE had really found bones, they certainly wouldn’t have them accessable anyone to see in case they might get contaminated.
SORRY ART!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe’s traveling companion is Jennifer Allen, she used to live in Antioch and used to live in FL.The trip had been planned.
Casey Anthony searched for Chloroform on her computer.
JO has a myspace page showing his love for guns.
It’s not so difficult to believe he tried to steal a gun, and Haleigh somehow got hurt in the process.
ROn fan
Are you going to sign the petition to free Ron?
What was that term that is used to describe what Misty did in response to the so called bones, and then when she saw Timmy? Was it illicited excitement, or something like that? I didn’t know that could be used as evidence.
memorial(no body involved) funeral(body involved). BIG DIFFERENCE
ronfan….I really don’t think anyone would or could “contaminate” the bones. I mean, they came out of a river…..the tests they do won’t be for fingerprints (on the bones)! LOL They would be DNA tests from the marrow…..even if Misty picked it up and sucked on it, she couldn’t contaminate that and prevent the tests from being conducted! LMAO However, I’m sure they wouldn’t want the case compromised in any way, shape or form so I highly doubt they’d let Misty handle them (or suck on them! Hee Hee).
I TOTALLY agree with everyone about NG. She needs to LISTEN to what is said and quit running with stuff that isn’t true! She and AH were made for one another. TOO much speculation. Why even bring up the bones thing if it wasn’t confirmed? AH is a glory hound and so is NG. What makes me mad is they are making LE’s job more difficult with all this crap! SHUT UP already and LE release info when they are ready. Don’t spout crap as fact that ISN’T FACT! UGH!
Well we know that Ron called Tommy that night but did Ron also call Timmy?
Timmy, Chelsea and Misty were rather close from what I have gathered and for sure if anyone were to be in the know about anything to do with Misty surely it would have been Timmy and Chelsea I would think.
IIRC LE did not even release the info about Ron’s call to Tommy until near around the time that Tommy had placed himself at the mh that night when confessed to going over to check on Misty.
JB: Too funny!!!!!!
And as for Art, I knew it right away (as we all probably did)!!
I was waiting for him to pull out a PAIR OF DEER ANTLERS from his arse!!
((“And Nancy, my sources tell me they have actually obtained the bones, and I just happen to have them here in my arse.”))
I totally agree, JB. I also think none of them should have Granny Hollars on either.
AH got it wrong. Misty actually gave Tommy a bone.
NATIVE ALIEN: What is the description of the cadillac?? Older, newer, etc..
Ron mentioned that on one of the Audio’s from the other day (the new ones w/ Cobra)
And, why do u PLAN A TRIP TO SATSUMA, FLORIDA?? WALLY-WORLD? 6 FLAGS OVER SATSUMA?? A CHILI COOKOFF??
I remmenber when NG used to be on court tv before she got her show. She was a big mouth person back then. but she now is not only a big mouth she tells out and out lies . I don’t no how they have kept her on this long.also remember AH for yrs. ago. He was the same so called reporter back then I, don’t care how many awards he say’s he got. I wonder if NG ever thought about putting herself into these people shoes.but I guess she’s such outstanding mother this could never happen to her children.
They messed that up so bad last night (about the bones) that CNN has completely removed the video they had posted online, where NG completely runs with the bones being Haleigh’s. At least I couldn’t find it anywhere. I was trying to find it so I could help ronfan with the “illicited excitement” phrase. I know what he is talking about, but I cannot remember the exact wording.
KY MOM: HELL YEAH!!! I alreay did, AND I took all my family and friends emails and signed them up!!!! Of course, with their permission..LOL
ronfan – ROFLMAO – yeah AH could SAY I have this bone, and while it isn’t confirmed, my sources say it is in fact a deer bone” and NG would HEAR, “and just from looking at this deer tail bone I can tell you this deer was 3 years, 4 months, 12 days, 46 minutes and 16 seconds old, was a buck, had a 10 point rack, weighed 243 pounds, was shot by a man named Jimmy who was hunting with Tommy Crosslin on November 2nd at 7:24 a.m. in Palutka Co, was hauled to the river in a blue 1986 3/4 ton Chevy pick-up with a dent in the left front fender and the deer was dumped on November 3rd at 1:16 pm….Art, is that what I’m hearing you say?!”….uhhhhhh
ROFLMAO
KY MOM: HELL YEAH!!! I alreay did, AND I took all my family and friends emails and signed them up!!!! Of course, with their permission..LOL
I would even go to the courthouse and hold a sign up. It has been done successfully before in the past for nonviolent offenders.
JB said,in April 21st, 2010 at 2:21 pm
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JB, you’re killing me over here again!
Excited utterance? Is that the phrase we’re looking for?
JB, what do you feel R’s involvement, if any, is at this juncture? I’ve read all your posts all along, but I’m thinking you are changing your thinking now?
It’s “Excited Utterance”…still in the NG transcripts….
“Excited utterance.”
LMAO, JB… though I think NG would have included it was dumped at 1:16 pm, by Misty.
Still want to know if gators poop bones? Does acid on stomach break it down.I also would like to know what Hank sr. was doing that dredful night. He is a shady character.
KIR…. Ron’s behavior through this entire ordeal has been strange….but so far LE hasn’t pointed the finger at him and seem to be looking at Misty and Tommy with the possibility of others. I cannot explain Ron on ANY level….but I have NOTHING at this point to say he was involved. I do still have a feeling that he knew and was involved in a cover up…but I have absolutely NOTHING to base that on other than his VERY bizarre behavior. I guess time will tell. And my theory has changed many times so stay tuned! LMAO
Texasmommy39 said,in April 21st, 2010 at 1:38 pm IMO PCSO showed their hand to the POI’s last week and are connecting the dots and it is just a matter of time before the cover up is exposed.
I wonder if Ruby is willing to tell what she knows now.
R u reffering to Ruby Kanger? To many characters!
carthartic – you’re right…NG WOULD have said Misty! LOL Dang, that woman needs to clean her dang ears and LISTEN for a change. Perhaps if she would let her guests finish a sentence she’d get the WHOLE story. It is one thing for us to kick around theories and discuss possibilities BUT to be on NATIONAL TV, as a media personality and go SO over the top and off the wall with a statement is WRONG. I did read back through the transcripts though and AH DID say the bones WERE taken for testing and to be compared against Haleigh’s DNA….so THAT is pretty misleading….I can sort of see where she came up with her conclusion but she SHOULD be more careful! She’s just adding to the chaos!
I agree JB.
I just wonder if LE is yanking these people’s chains somewhat; telling one of them one thing, the other, another. They do it all the time. So we could ALL be assuming that JO, misty and tommy are the main POIs but it could very well be a “tactic”.
The jury is still out for me. I know I think the very same thing today that I did the day we first heard about this case, so idk.
Just waiting for results. And justice for this beautiful child.
Hi Folks! What stands out to me is that none of them seem all that broken up about this. Not Haleigh being gone or found or them going to jail forever and a day.
Bio Hazzard… Hank Sr. was out of commission due to a car “accident”! Ohh, by the way… Hank Sr. could not have been involved…. unless… he was some kind of “Magic Man”… per, his daughter-in-law!!
JB yes perfectly said! ROFLMAO!!
BUT…let’s add to this in perfect AH style and put a “spin” on this one:
((Hold on, Art, I’m getting a message in my ear RIGHT NOW….Maria Schiavo, what’s that? “Yes, that’s right Nancy, here on the scene, word is that there COULD BE evidence that RON SHOT THAT DEER. THEY ARE CHECKING THE CARCKASS RIGHT NOW. ”
And now, of course Art JUST HAS TO ADD HIS 2 cents in, (so he can once again steal the thunder): “Nancy, my sources have REVEALED that this was INDEED the deer meat that JOE ATE FOR DINNER WHILE VISITING THE CROSLINS. Chelsea cooked it at 350degrees for 1 hour. In addition to that, Nancy, my sources also told ME that there MAY be some proof that Joe put salt and pepper on his deer meat.”
Hey Gang,
Anyone ever see the footage of Hank Sr at the gas station on the day the family was called into the Sheriff office?
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in April 21st, 2010 at 3:01 pm
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beautiful, no, where can we find it? TIA
It’s not about the truth with NG and her ilk. I shudder to think that all the things reported that are untrue or embellished just for the sake of ratings and bombshells might make it so there will never be a conviction in this case. And thus, no justice for Haleigh.
But, it’s really not about justice with them, it’s about ratings.
ronfan…If Ron’s his name were to be mentioned at all it would be NG saying she is convinced Ron did nothing more than pet the deer.
Keep… I don’t know, all I remember is that a reporter (male) said that he asked Hank about what was going on and hank said “If LE won’t tell you, I can’t” (paraphrasing). And Hanky said “Leave me alone”. Or something like that.
beautiful, LOL. than’s “magic man” for ya!
Keep… I don’t know why I get so tickled about “magic man”. I guess it’s just my wacky sense of humor, or it’s cause, I can picture Chelsea saying it.
Tuff Stuff: there is a statement PCSO released back in 9-09 when they went up to Mass. to talk to Timmy and Chelsea, and it confirms that Misty called Timmy BEFORE Ron got home.
It was never mentioned again.
And yes, nothing was ever released about Ron’s calls to Tommy until Tommy was arrested and jailed (I forget why, was it the falling asleep in the truck at the school bus stop and the pills in the car, and then Tommy saying they were Hank Sr.’s?) Wow, almost lost my breath on that run-on sentence!)
and then apparently LE questioned Tommy and then Tommy stated he went to the MH that night because Ron called and asked him too.
Then the phone records were revealed.
Something to think about: Ron has “never ever” (and I say that as that is one of his usual sayings) introduced or given up info.
I think that shows he is desperate enough to play along with LE and did what he was told. If we think back, once anything got released, he wouldn’t deny it. He just played his cards very safely, sadly I believe to help protect any information from getting released before PCSO allowed it.
sorry, meant THAT’S magic man! lol
LOL, me too, beautiful!
Reminds me of that song from back in my day, “he’s a magic man” oh yeah! LOL
Please read my post, I know it’s long, but I want everyones’ feedback.
btw, I can’t believe how stupid I sound, Illicited excitement?? Too much Mountain Dew.
I keep hearing Stevie Nicks now thanks guys LoL.
not reading any comments for my last post. Sounds like all of you know each other. Hope you don’t mind my
posting. One more thought sounds like LE is entrapping these coslins if no bones are not human.
Cathartic: I ALMOST CHOKED ON MY MOUNTAIN DEW AND WOKE UP MY 3YR OLD CUZ I LAUGHED SO LOUD!!!!!!!
“You know, the twins love deer, and they went to the petting zoo that Ronald had…”
@ bio-hazzard said,
in April 21st, 2010 at 3:23 pm
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I answered you as best as I could @ 2:55!
I would love to see that video of Tommy and Mistys conversation in that cop car. I bet there arent alot of I love yous thats for sure. jmo
“ronfan said,
in April 21st, 2010 at 2:14 pm
NATIVE ALIEN: What is the description of the cadillac?? Older, newer, etc..
Ron mentioned that on one of the Audio’s from the other day (the new ones w/ Cobra)
And, why do u PLAN A TRIP TO SATSUMA, FLORIDA?? WALLY-WORLD? 6 FLAGS OVER SATSUMA?? A CHILI COOKOFF??”
I don’t know other than it was a Cadillac and that LE did a search of the car, which was one of the reasons that they were later leaving Satsuma than they had planned.
Actually Jennifer had family in the area and that was the reason that they took a VACATION, to visit with FAMILY. Joe rode with her, to visit the Croslins.
Can anyone say “media manipulation”? Sadly people bought this theory about the bones and quite a few other things without actual proof. Did I not hear this case was solved last week? Off a few bones LE throws to the media and sensationalized through talking heads! This case is far from over. I think its time to focus in another direction–maybe the SOs in the area. This has been a media circus, with none other than LE to blame for it. I have to question the PIs motive for his blanket statement “I know what happened in that MH.” Totally irresponsible on all levels and unprofessional to say the least. JMO
Armando, You were there on the dock and talked to residents did they say if there are large gators that hang around or are they smaller ones? The reason I ask is if they are small thats the reson there are deer bones, larger gators would have eaten the large bones whole. jmo
bio hazzard: Actually, I was checking on the Animal Planet site because I had that same thought, don’t they digest there food whole, like a snake?
Last year, a little boy had his arm bit off by a gator in a canal which is directly off of Lake Pontchartrain, and LE and Wildlife E. actually got the gator and gutted it out.
I swear, I used to wonder why they didn’t grab every freakin’ gator and gut them out, I know it’s impossible, but it’s still eerie.
Also if there were deer bones at the site there is a chance there could also be human bones, think about it. If there were no bones at all from anything I could believe they found nothing but we have heard there were deer bones, why wouldnt the gators eat them too? jmo
Where is it said that Misty and Tommy rode in a police car together? Is that another rumor being bandied about by the media talking heads or is it fact?
I checked the acid in the stomach disolves the bones. But why are there deer bones? Because only adult gators could eat a large prey whole
or large bones.jmo
Thats why I want to ask Armando if the residents told him there are large gators or just small ones in the area. jmo
It could be the deer were dumped in the winter…when gators aren’t feeding…they can’t metabolize the food in colder weather. But the same could be true for Haleigh being thrown in during the Winter months….it could be true LE found some bones that the anthropologists determined to be human bones and those were taken for examination….and the animal bones left on the dock for Misty. Who KNOWS at this point. But if there are deer/animal bones…then yes, there could be human bones as well. The time of year Haleigh would have been dumped probably wasn’t a great time for gators to be feeding…which means only small predators like crabs, fish, etc., would have…well…you know….and thus the bones would be somewhat scattered (smaller ones) but I would think the skull and larger bones would still be there. Especially if they were tied to a brick…everything would stay put until decomop was complete….by then..the bones are picked clean by critters and left basically where they were. By the time the gators would be feeding again there probably was little of interest there for them. I’m sorry…this entire post is very morbid and I do apologize.
Misty told the truth from the getgo..its the cops who bungled the investigation by focusing everything on misty. LE retracted their “misty is the key” statement but the damage has been done..She is vilified daily by NG to the point of inciting a lynch mob. LE ‘entrapped” and “set up” misty for their moronic pressure tactics which has given them squat.
Misty was asleep and is INNOCENT!!
tobi, I’ve got the same question.
Also, someone asked “upstream” if ANY of these people were acting like this was a “child” when they speak of this scenario at the river. I just don’t get it. I don’t get ANY of it. They all act totally numb to the whole thing
bio-hazzard said,
in April 21st, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Still want to know if gators poop bones? Does acid on stomach break it down.I also would like to know what Hank sr. was doing that dredful night. He is a shady character.
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I’m looking on the internet for the gator question? If I find anything I will post you a link.
OJ – I never heard LE “retract” their “Misty is the key” statement? When did that occur because as far as I know, they are STILL saying she is the key. I know you think Misty is innocent but I’m not sure why. IMO le has not bungled this investigation….they’ve just been thrown a lot of roadblocks by the person you claim to be innocent (as well as others). Frankly I don’t care WHO did it as long as THAT person or persons faces justice.
I’m afraid we are at another stand still.
I thought gators liked water that was at a stand still…like swamp water, not rivers.
Keep , I know. When I was doing some of the research on gators I had to stay focused on getting info and not on Haleigh. Those that did this are monsters and have no remorse.
Think about it how could anyone put her there even if she were dead without having remorse?
I believe she was wrapped in the blanket so they wouldnt have to see her, most women would do this. That way in their minds its just a blanket. I think that may be some of the evidence, the blanket. jmo
Ummm…that sounded like I was calling you guys gators, and I was not. My words just accidently formed like that. Sorry.
Shock wave, The river in question only runs 1/3 mile per hour. Thats slow. jmo
JB: the pcso spokesman the day they wrapped up the search said.. “misty is not the key but we believe she has key answers”
OJ – is the key, holds the key, has key information, ate the key, ran over the key or threw the key in the river tied to a brick…sounds all the same to me. LOL
The key question is what, who and why. Happened in that MH that night that left Haleigh dead? They have more or less confessed to the where now tell the rest for petes sake. jmo
tobias: people throw the bones out after they skin the deer.
Tobias…that is what I don’t get. They’ve pointed to a dump site, pointed at each other, talked about a murder weapon, talked about using a rope and cinder block…..why not just spill it all already? Why hold back at this point? I don’t get it. I mean, what do they possibly have to lose at this point. And THAT is why I think Misty and Tommy are guilty. Because it makes NO sense for them to offer up the info they have if they weren’t there. The vote is still out on Joe’s involvement but right now, IMO, he is the scapegoat and nothing more.
tobias said,in April 21st, 2010 at 4:06 pm
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I agree, tobi, the infamous BLANKET!!!
(oh, I love me some stevie nicks, lol)
Ronfan, Gators will eat bones even if they have nothing left on them . I did alot of research on them and HGM did too. Also on the weather temps at the time she went missing and it was warm enough that year for the gators to be out. jmo
OMG – have you guys read the article at AH? Has he NOT got the sense to pull that article! It is ALL about the bones… and it SO contradicts LE’s statement. He spends most the time in the article stroking his own ego about how NG/CNN credited him with this exclusive. Good grief. The article also talks about when Tommy and Misty rode together…u gotta read it. May be some truth in the article but I’m getting where I’m skeptical of everything this man says after leading everyone astray so many times before. I’ll stick with BNN and the KNOWN Facts…thank you very much.
I’m not sure, but I’ve just got this feeling that when it’s all said and done, and the truth finally gets dribbled out to the public, it WILL be like some omg moment for a lot of people.
I’ve already fastened my seatbelt. And I don’t think at this point that everything is as it seems thus far…
the tremendous torture like pressure LE is placing on the usual suspects is the cause of all these red herrings..the tortured will say anything to make it stop. Another LE blunder!
Has anyone heard of “false confession”? It happens more than you think, and it is usually brought on by intense pressure by LE.. Sound familiar in this case? I just hoped LE taped and recorded every interrogation in this case. OJ, I believe you. I think LE focused on Misty early on and has not let up. They IMO jumped the gun this time. Another search that leaves more questions than answers. Where is the evidence? Its time to look somewhere else! Even though (like OJ said) the damage is done!
OJ, These people could sit in jail and refuse through their lawyers to say nothing. No one forced Tommy into a LDT he volenteered and he also confessed of his own free will that Haleigh was left at the ramp. I believe Tommy is the only one with a heart and he finally woke up from the drugs and couldnt dull the pain anymore. jmo
I think a blanket is involved somehow because Misty was so focused on blankets that even and for days/weeks afterward. Also, Haleigh’s nebulizer was said to be missing from the MH that night. I wonder if it was ever found (not actually missing at all) or if it has been found recently. They might not have found Haleigh but they may have found things belonging to Haleigh…a shoe? a necklace? barrette or band from her hair? portable nebulizer? If the nebulizer did in fact disappear that night, why? Was something in the nebulizer that might have been indicate it had been misused in some way?
Sorry to go on and on but sometimes evidence other than a body can be very incriminating, and there is no reason to assume such evidence might not have been found.
Tobias – AMEN. These people KNOW what happened. If it was a false confession, how would they be finding evidence where the POI’s falsely claimed the body was? I don’t know why they aren’t confessing to the who, what, when, where and why though if they’ve already basically stated Haleigh is dead and was thrown in…unless they are trying to avoid a murder one conviction!
Truthfully, I see Tommy cofessing to helping after the fact but saying he doesnt know how she died. Misty is still pointing at Joe and her story. Misty needs to come clean on what happened because it doesnt appear LE believes her Joe did it story. jmo
Can anyone provide the link that states Misty and Tommy rode in a police car together after this latest search? Or is this another nugget of info reported by AH/NG? This “bones” story these “so called” journalists ran with last night showed the total disregard for Haleigh`s families and feelings. She should be banned, sued, and fired for this inflammatory statement. Its amazing that people still believe what is reported by both of these fame seeking individuals! Is it not apparent now that their primary motivation is money, fame and ratings? Not truth and justice their show proclaims! They are frauds, pain and simple. For Nancy to claim she is a victim, I would like her to realize how many “victims” she has left in her wake.
Robin – go to AH….his article talks about Misty and Tommy in the police car. They didn’t leave the docks together….they were both taken to the PD, interrogated and then sent back to the jail together ACCORDING TO AH. That is the only place I’ve heard/read that…but I haven’t had time today to do a lot of searching.
Robin, That could be the only true thing he said because he talks with Lindsy and Chelsea all the time, they probably told him. And they would know from phone calls and visits to the jail. We wont get those tapes until they get released during the trial because they may be evidence. jmo
Magic Man is by Heart, not Stevie Nicks.
Sorry, was thinking of rhiannon.
LOL, charming and tob
A blast from our past!
So when do you think the results of the tests will be back from the search of the river? It’s been about a week, right?
JB and Tobias–Thanks for the info. Did they have a pic of this? This would be one of those million dollar shots too, I would think. I don`t believe it whatsover, especially the source.Is that even legal, Misty and Tommy in a patrol car together when one might very well testify against the other? Can evidence or talk that transpired between them be used in a future trial? We need a lawyer on this forum!
tobias: yep, your right, I guess it would have helped for me to include they new it was a big gator named “big daddy” and that it had just happened!!!
But, I really didn’t think they would digest all that so fast, this is sickening, can we even imagine talking about our own children in this situation?
How quick could their bodies completely digest large matter like that? I hate gators.
can’t they check one of the other four sites out of five that TM talked about since this spot did nothing but confuse the case even more. Maybe shes buried under one of the brick piles behind the MH or the party house in the Mondex. I think a different pond in the Mondex is still the place to be looking. This search got nowhere.
i’ll be back in six months when real facts emerge. This NG and AH BS is a waste of time as usual.
Just have a few questions… Did PCSO give both Tommy and Misty a poly after they told them the story of “Hey Joe did it”, did they confirm that this time they might be telling the truth?? Well, until they do.. I’m not buying the wooden bridge they seem to be offering.. Now, misty got a trip to the river, and gheez there were bones laying out.. Wow, of course she wasn’t told they weren’t human and Haleigh.. but since it made an impression on her, they let her believe what she wanted to.. And just what was the conversation between tommy and misty on the ride back in the squad car?? and why did they have them together??
And they would take Tommy and Misty’s word for Haleigh is dead, enough to go to the parents and say.. well guys you can plan a funeral.. What??? You can declare your daughter dead?? What?? on what basis.. If they have not found a body.. How can they take tommy and misty’s word for what they had for dinner that night? How can they take the word of two druggies who want the heck out of jail!!! And I do believe Sheriff Hardy needs to open an investigation on who art harris’s sources are.. they just don’t seem to get their facts straight. and making statements like it was coming out of the Sheriff’s Office.. wow. still have a leak???
while we sit here and wait for real facts from LE….
what can be done to let the faithful NG watchers learn the truth about their ‘hero’? tobias hit it spot on in the other article that those of us that are fortunate enough to follow bnn’s coverage are more informed than those that only watch HLN/NG. NG is not reporting facts and the viewers need to know this.
as far as im concerned AH must be compensating for a small body appendage with all his bs.
what can we do? contact hln en masse?
oh…’imo’
I’ll never understand what the ex-fbi guy was doing on tv say he everthing about who dun it what happened in the MH , who the killer was,why aren’t the cops listening to him if he no’s everthing. what wrong police why can’t thay ask him???
Look even the news has it wrong.Tim Miller said with his own mouth that mistyn showed him 4/5 places Joe liked to go,an could have dumped the body.That river at that same spot being one of them.An he pulled out of the search.Said she lied so much he didnt believe her,an that child if she was there,could have been found way back then.Now reports are saying Tommy lead them.But in fact Misty did a long time ago.So i wonder if anyone,or Tim Miller has told LE this.Or just kept quiet an let Tommy look like the one,who helped. I dont believe half what i hear,unless i hear it from their own mouths,on videos.Art,an NG have made azzz out of their selves.I looked at the pictures of Misty at the dock.An only thing i saw was when she put her cuffed hands up to her face,an was wipping her eyes with one cuffed hand,an the other was like it pointed next the river,but she never pointed,as i saw in any pics.I think NG reporter lied,or blowed that up to. Now G ma Holler is spreading all the rumors shes heard,an not a damn one may be true except.If the calls were recorded.I still dont believ misty hit that child in the head with a board.I had to laught at a woman i like Dr Lillin Glass,when she said Ron may have hit Haliegh before work,Haliegh was on the bed ,an Misty may have hit her in the head with a board to wake her lol WTH!! HOW CRAZY IS THAT,(IMAGINATION).IT PROBABLY WAS A ACCIDENT,OR SHE GOT HURT IF THEY WERE FIGHTING,AN THEY PANICED,AN DUMPED THE BODY.SIMPLE AS THAT!!!
Look even the news has it wrong.Tim Miller said with his own mouth that mistyn showed him 4/5 places Joe liked to go,an could have dumped the body.That river at that same spot being one of them.An he pulled out of the search.Said she lied so much he didnt believe her,an that child if she was there,could have been found way back then.Now reports are saying Tommy lead them.But in fact Misty did a long time ago.So i wonder if anyone,or Tim Miller has told LE this.Or just kept quiet an let Tommy look like the one,who helped. I dont believe half what i hear,unless i hear it from their own mouths,on videos.Art,an NG have made azzz out of their selves.I looked at the pictures of Misty at the dock.An only thing i saw was when she put her cuffed hands up to her face,an was wipping her eyes with one cuffed hand,an the other was like it pointed next the river,but she never pointed,as i saw in any pics.I think NG reporter lied,or blowed that up to. Now G ma Holler is spreading all the rumors shes heard,an not a damn one may be true except.If the calls were recorded.I still dont believ misty hit that child in the head with a board.I had to laught at a woman i like Dr Lillin Glass,when she said Ron may have hit Haliegh before work,Haliegh was on the bed ,an Misty may have hit her in the head with a board to wake her WTH lol. HOW CRAZY IS THAT,(IMAGINATION running wild).IT PROBABLY WAS A ACCIDENT,OR SHE GOT HURT IF THEY WERE FIGHTING,AN THEY PANICED,AN DUMPED THE BODY.SIMPLE AS THAT!!!
Grandma Flo on JVM again
Grandma Holler is just spreading rumor now,shes talking things we have used for theorys.Wonder if shes been on the puter lately.Shes getting out of hand with her bull,it has no factual basis,i dont believe the crap she spreading now!!!!!!
I don’t believe anyone about anything.
I can’t believe AH didn’t redact his statement on the bones.
Double post from me,Simon please poof one of those.Look everyone said Misty acted like she loved the children,an TN,an Crystal said they loved Misty.I dont think Misty was bombed that night,she smoked a joint.An she was comming down,resting from her weekend.
I do not believe she harmed Haliegh on perpose.I dont believe Ron would have left his children that evening if Misty was stoned out of her mind,Gma Sykes(( never)) said when she went at 7 that misty was stoned out of her head.I think she was tired,an just chillin,Happy to be back with Ron,so why would she turn aroung an hurt Haliegh out of meaness.
Those 2 men may have came by stoned.I just dont believe all i hear.An the 20 calls from work to Misty, blowed up to 90 calls Please,dont believe that either.They were probable doing the love talk ,or could be fussing about her being out the weekend,jealious.stuff.
An Misty called Ron so someone said telling that Haliegh wouldnt listen,they said Ron said whip her.Now i doupt she did.But if she had been a mean woman she would have never called the dad about it,an asked for his help on what to do.If that man even told the truth,or the reports were true.
I told you i have been through the media bull,all the gossip,an Lies.We dont even know for sure if Haliegh was placed in that river,cinder blocks are used for ancors,at the river,to make make shift grills for cooking fish,i knew a man that cooked his deer meat out side all day with to cinder blocks a oven rack over them.Then he put his pot on it an cooked his meat all day,the best i ever tasted.
Could they be just telling a story because they dont know what happened,an a stranger really took her.I just dont know at this point,its crazy.Or could Misty have walked to her moms,an Joe,or Tiom went there an did what ever to Haliegh,an they are scared to tell she was out of the house.When the child was taken.
LOL first time i got NG number to dial,but 20 rings an it just hung up on me,no anwser.Remember that Tim Miller said he Misty showed him those places where Joe may have been,an she tried to show Tim where it was the river being one of them.So i want to know if Tim Miller Told the investigators this? If he did when? Or did he keep it to his self? Tim should call LE an tell them Misty was trying to help way back then.Or will no one ever tell that she did try?????? NG IS NASTY TONIGHT SHES BEEN BUSTED OUT AS A LIER!! probably caught some heat!!!
Misty told that about the cinder blocks,when investigators told her what Tommy said.She only called an said that after it came out,an she calls home some one could have told her what they heard in the news.Tommy called on Sundy.Then on thursday after news broke Misty called granny an told her that.THAT IDOT ng KNOWS IT,SHES SPINNING HER STORY.IF ALL GO BACK, AN LOOK IT CAME OUT,AN THEN ON THURSDAY MISTY TOLD THAT,BUT YOU HEAR NO ONE EXPLAINS THAT.
Jan57,
are you watching NG rite now ?
NG is not truthful and neither is AH, both good friends from way back, before CNN.. Birds of a Feather.
Read about how honest NG is in this New York Observer article.
http://www.observer.com/node/51941
And Art, most have gotten a taste of how much he lies and how biased his reporting is. This is not the first case he has lied and manipulated a story for his own gain. AH is dirty, very dirty in how he operates.
I think Joe is THE ONE. If it is about a gun, which gun is the one Ron had in the closet in his Mom’s house and pointed it and told Tim Miller he would shoot Misty and then himself?
Then Tim Miller and Art Harris told on him because Junior was supposedly right there when Ron did that. I believe it was that same gun, cuz it was supposed to be illegal.
AND, Ron knew Joe wanted that gun, that’s why he told Misty to look in the culvert, because that’s where Ron himself hid it.
Plus, if u watch Ron’s face in those early interviews about him and Joe fighting over a gun, Ron immediately gets irrate and dismisses it. That’s usually his MO when he is trying to get a reporter to shut up fast!!
A gun like that could not be legally purchased right? Drugs.
JOES ALIBI: It can’t be the one Chelsea has of waking up and seeing him sleeping etc..that STILL DOESNT ACCOUNT FOR THE TIME B/W THAT. If she was home and still awake till 1am, then where was Joe at the time, that has NEVER been stated.
Put a feasible timeline together for him. Then do the same for Timmy.
Why is no one commenting on my Misty called Timmy right before Ron got home that night?
Every theory that has been discussed at great lengths came spilling out of Gma “Holler and Screams” mouth like she has been reading at a forum since day one.
I would like for those intelligent minds that read hear to think about a few highlights from last week that where revealed.
1.) Sheriff Hardy decided this search required all the family members to meet face to face for his pre-search briefing and that it was to remain between him and those family members.
2.) A newer model SILVER Plymouth van was of interest to LE and all neighbors where questioned about it and any activity in the area (If I am not mistaken it was in regards to recent activity.)
3.)The search at Shell Harbor came from a credible tip that was received and I will defiantly rule out that all of a sudden they are taking the Croslins at their word and finally searching an area that was mentioned by many of them and Ron early on.
4.)Haleigh was not found in the river! So was she found some where else that LE was searching while Shell Harbor was being searched. I do believe Shell Harbor was a place of interest for LE and a show of their hand to the real suspects. From the beginning The possibility HaLeigh was taken form Hermit Cove by boat was investigated and the fact that Shell Harbor is a public dock is not a far leap to suspect its use and not solely connected to the Croslins,it is a local spot of entrance on to or off the St.Johns river. Who has a boat. HMMM Didn’t the Sheffield’s go out in a Boat the first few days looking for HaLeigh?
Enough food for thought for the night.
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