Apparently, fraudsters are now able to clone some payment cards, assign a new PIN — and it appears that the customer’s old PIN was used when the bank reviews the transactions.

Card Guide (UK) is reporting:

The Chip and Pin technology that has been in use in the UK over recent years is supposed to be practically fraud proof, but this is not the case, as thieves can clone cards and put a new PIN number onto the card – this is known as a YES card.

However, it appears to the bank that the original card and PIN have been used, and therefore banks claim that either the customer carried out the transaction themselves or they gave their PIN number to someone or were careless with the security of their PIN.

Card Guide story, here.

There have been many instances, where payment card thieves were able to get card details, along with the PIN numbers. It can happen to just about anyone, even when they are being careful.

If you have had a fraud claim denied because the bank claims you were careless, you might want to read about instances (substantiated), where PIN details were stolen using pretty sophisticated methods, here.

Of course, there are and always have been people, who try to claim fraud for their own financial advantage. Because of this, it seems some innocent people are getting their claims denied (my opinion).

Figuring out, who is guilty of this is getting harder all the time.

My guess is that with all the fraud involving payment cards, it’s no longer an expense the banks can continue to write-off as a cost of doing business.

Banks denying claims because they say a customer compromised their own information is nothing new.

One example of how this happens can be seen on, here.

I guess all the zero liability ads we see all the time aren’t exactly one-hundred accurate?

If you have wrongfully had a claim denied, I’ve seen individuals made whole by escalating the matter with the financial institution. In some instances, using a consumer advocate was necessary.

On a final note, in most businesses, the cost of fraud is passed off to everyone, when we pay more for goods and services. The truth is we are all held liable for the cost of fraud!

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