Obama Birth Certificate:
Berg v. Obama Federal Lawsuit Dismissed
Hawaii Seals Obama Birth Certificate
Kenya Seals All Obama Records until After Election
Berg Plans Appeal
Obama Birth Certificate News Round-up
UPDATES at end of story.
UPDATE #1 – working.
The Obama birth certificate issue may become an issue.
Phillip Berg may have had his case dismissed in a Philadelphia federal court for lack of standing, but cases filed in the last few weeks in eight state courts are still pending over Barack Obama’s citizenship issues.
Berg says he plans on appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Our opinion: the appeal will likely be denied, due to the standing issue.
Berg filed suit in court to force the Democrat nominee to produce an original “vault” copy of his birth certificate. Obama and the Democratic National Committee chose to fight the lawsuit, rather than produce the birth certificate.
Obama left the campaign trail for a few days last week to see his ailing grandmother in Hawaii. Rumors swelled over the timing of the visit. DBKP took the campaign’s announcement at face value.
Yesterday, it was reported that the Hawaii Governor, Linda Lingle, has had the Obama birth certificate placed under seal.
From Obama’s birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor:
HONOLULU, Hawaii – Although the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama’s birth certificate has become a focus of intense speculation – and even several lawsuits – WND has learned that Hawaii’s Gov. Linda Lingle has placed the candidate’s birth certificate under seal and instructed the state’s Department of Health to make sure no one in the press obtains access to the original document under any circumstances.
The governor’s office officially declined a request made in writing by WND in Hawaii to obtain a copy of the hospital-generated original birth certificate of Barack Obama.
A source told World Net Daily “…confidentially the motivation for withholding the original birth certificate was political, although the source refused to disclose whether there was any information on the original birth certificate that would prove politically embarrassing to Obama.”
[ABOVE: Left-What Obama campaign has posted on their website; R-What a copy of vault birth certificate from Hawaii looks like.]
Kenyan authorities are also sealing Obama records until after the November 4 election.
What other records has the Obama campaign refused to release to the press and public?
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackYou people are racist morons. Why would Hawaii even have a birth certificate to seal if he was born in Africa? Idiots! And, you believe that the state of Hawaii is now covering up for it? Morons! Look out from under your white sheets and view the real world.
I don’t understand why Obama refuses to produce the actual birth certificate. This puts real doubt in my mind that he is as honest as he appears. I enlarged the document and spotted a blue stamp of June 6, 2007. I believe this is a fake document. If we can’t trust him now, how can we trust him to be president?
If this man is running for presedential office, why is he hiding his birth certificate?
I’m Black and definitely not a racist. I have friends from all over the world, Egypt, UK, Middle East, New Zealand, Russia, etc. That being said, my wife and I both think that he should prove his standing, btw she’s black too!
Any candidate should have to prove their qualifications for a “job”, we sure have to provide them when we go for an interview. Why not Obama?
Wow Steve! Methinks thou dost protest too much.
“If this man is running for presedential office, why is he hiding his birth certificate?”
He isn’t. He provided the documentation, although Berg continues to pretend he has not.
Intriguing that this flurry of activity only surfaces after Obama’s lead in the race has solidified & increases daily with only a week to go. Just two of a number of pieces of evidence that blow this idiotic “theory” completely out of the water:
1. Obama has traveled abroad (obviously under a US passport) for years — if there were a defect in his credentials, Occam’s Razor says it would have been discovered long before now. 2. An announcement of his birth was published in the Honolulu paper a week following his being born.
To believe the supposition that Obama is not a US citizen would necessarily require buying into one or both of two completely absurd inevitabilities. Either (a) The State Department & DHS (who control ingress, egress, & return of *all* persons to/from the US) are staffed top to bottom by utter incompetents, &/or (b) the Honolulu press would have had to be in the position of knowing *50 years ago* that an obscure black infant would run for President against a candidate rendered highly vulnerable by ties to an incompetent administration.
Obviously both of those scenarios are so ludicrous as to beg even the slightest credibility. This is clearly politics of desperation & a willful delaying action with the intent of negating the will of the electorate. The first of those is somewhat understandable. The second is not. Why?
Because there is a word for it. “Treason.” Read Judge Surrick’s ruling & his assessment of the merits of Berg’s accusations. (The word “thin” is highly prominent.) *Then* tell me which side in the case is the one trying to pull a fast one.
Per ernie: “Any candidate should have to prove their qualifications for a “job”, we sure have to provide them when we go for an interview. Why not Obama?”
He already has. Berg’s arguments have so little merit the surprise is that his pleading wasn’t dismissed long before now. He’s applying the “big lie” technique Stalin used — make an absurd statement loud enough & often enough, & credulous people will actually begin to believe it.
Surrick is obviously a patient & tolerant judge, whose limits were finally reached. My bet is that the USSC will refuse to hear his case, just as they did with the GOP lawsuit in OH.
He isn’t hiding it. He’s just giving you racist morons the big middle finger and laughing has @ss off and causing people like Philip Berg to spend a lot of his own money tilting at the windmill. Did anyone require George Bush to produce his birth certificate? How about Hillary Clinton? Joe Biden? Notice anything different between Barack and the people in that list? hmmmmm…
Do any of you idiots think that if there was anything to this issue that Hillary wouldn’t have brought it up? You can be quite sure her PIs thoroughly checked it out. You can also be d@mn sure the Republican Party checked it out. I have no problem with him proving his citizenship but he has no requirement to prove it to YOU or the other sheet wearers.
If people judged Barack Obama by the content of his character and not the color of his skin, he wouldn’t have been chosen as the Democratic nominee in the first place. My wife is scared to death of his socialist-style agenda, his associations and his empty rhetoric. The Black people I know are only voting for him because of his skin color. Most of the Blacks I know don’t even care about the issues just the fact that he’s Black and they aren’t ashamed to say it.
Steve, they required John McCain to provide his birth certificate and he did.
We are headed for a Constitutional crisis in this great land of ours. I’m praying that those of us who love America and our fundamental freedoms, cast off this insane media onslaught and reclaim our sanity.
God help us all!
Has nothing to do with race and everything to do with Barack’s character, or lack there of. He is a Karl Marx socialist. He is not capable of being President of a free country and wants no part of us Americans having any freedom.
Who is “they”?
Steve,
The only person playing the race card is you. Are you afraid that you must do so to protect Obamunism? Can he not stand on facts. Like the fact he is not eligible to be President as he is not a natural born US citizen. Like he believes in stealing from some people to give to others. If Barack gets elected you can kiss your job goodbye. He will raise your taxes too.
Fred.
Seems there is only one racist on here – The person calling everyone else “sheet wearers”. Maybe it’s you who is wearing the sheet because evidently you can’t see the truth
LOOKS LIKE HE HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE…
Not racist… A REALIST !!!!
I’m amazed at the (admitted) race of those who bring up the subject of racism. What happened to being “color blind” and standing on your own achievements? It seems to set back the progress we’ve made in equality a good 50 years. As for being morons, when you point a finger at someone (morons in this case) you have three pointing back at yourself.
Steve,
You seem to be a racist yourself!!! If he’s giving us the middle finger…he gives it to the AMERICAN people as well, you moron!!!
God needs to pray for people to wake up and get off the celebrity train….
Alot of these people don not even know the issues…they are just jumping on the band wagon..
That’s scary.
Steve,
You apparently have not done your research and you should do so before casting your own racist stones…
Hawaii is or was one of the only few states that would offer a vault birth certificate to any US Citizen if they claimed their child as US Citizen but they would have listed either Kenya has original birth. If he wasn’t born in a hospital there would be no listing for that either. If you search this subject you’ll find that there has been discrepancies even in where he has said the hospital in which he was born. He has said one hospital his step sister has said another. He has alledged to never have changed his name or have been adopted but his wife in an interview confirmed that he was. If he is of such high moral standards than he shouldn’t have a problem with showing his original birth certificate…oh and by the way the one that is on his website has discrepancies too, like a laser date at the bottom that wasn’t available in 1961 not to mention that the seal and dated signature does not show up as a “bleed through” search Hawaii birth certificates and you’ll find that when a birth certificate is scanned into a computer you can still seal the original seal and signature. Do your research.
This is not a black/white issue. This is an issue concerning the welfare of all American citizens today and for years to come. I have listened to the debates and read numerous articles on both candidates. One day I like Obama’s ideas, and the next day I like McCain’s ideas. If Obama is indeed a natural born American, he needs to prove it. Right now, I am beginning to lean more and more towards McCain.
Why does Obama have to prove that he is a citizen?
Has any other president had to prove that he was born in the USA?
We hear some claims that he was not born in the USA, but there are also claims that he is a socialist. One site claims that he is mainly of Arab decent on his father’s side, and still another one claims that his mother was Jewish.
If, indeed, it were proven that Obama were not born in the USA then there would be a valid issue of whether he could be president.
But the proof does not have to come from requiring Obama to prove that he is a citizen. It must come from the people who claim that he is NOT a citizen. And they have no evidence.
No, the assertion that there is an audio tape of someone who claims to be his paternal grandmother and claims to have attended his birth when his mother was in Kenya is NOT evidence? How do you know from a tape that it is really his grandmother?
Eight days left until the election. If there is real evidence, present it. Otherwise, stop blowing smoke.
Berg is pretty confident:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvGtGitwMR0
part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57C9b-ZoNTo
Kenya is not supposed to have any “records” for Mr. Obama simply because “officially” he was not born there. So exactly what records is Kenya trying to seal? If all Mr. Obama did was visit the country once or twice then there would be no need to “seal the records”. Am I missing something here?
It is actually quite simple, if there is nothing to hide, then don’t act as though there is. If Obama is a U. S born, U.S. citizen, then just prove it. End of story. No place else to go. If Hawaii “sealed” their birth certificate, then there is something being hidden. Having been adopted myself, I have two birth certificates. My original one and then the new one that was issued after my adoption. They are quite different. They are both “official.” If Senator Obama was not born in this country, Hawaii could still have produced a secondary birth certificate to validate his citizenship, but not prove his actually having been born here.
This has nothing to do with “white washing” this matter. This has to do with the law and smoke and mirrors. Obama’s entire campaign and career in the Senate has been for this moment. Everything has been well conceived; however, time for rhetoric and nonsense is over. Let’s just put an end to the myths and get the truth. The more it is fought or hidden, the more guilty he appears.
Focusing on the Indonesian citizenship from his childhood, if he cannot produce documentation showing a renouncement of his Indonesian citizenship and oath of allegience to the United States, then this is actually a matter for INS. He is actually an illegal allien subject to deportation without verifiable citizenship documentation. I would also think that his current US passport would have been obtained fraudulently if his US citizenship has not been re-established. It would apprear that he skipped the oath and just simply used the COLB from Hawaii to get the passport without informing anyone that he is actually an Indonesion citizen.
Should we all be sending requests to INS requesting investigation and deportation?
Bob, listen to the Berg interview.
Obama is hoping to stall this until after the election and then make it a Constitutional issue. With a supermajority and 3 appointments opening on the Supreme Court – he has a chance at rewriting the Constitution. Did I mention he is a constitutional lawyer?
Who would have ever thought this scenario could play out in America? This should have been all over the media this summer. I never before understood just how crucial a free and UNBIASED press is to our democracy.
He also has done an amazing job covering his tracks as a socialist.
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-file-41-obama-was-new-party.html
I’m surprised all these anti-Americans are so interested in Obama. I mean us _real_ Americans follow the old adage: Innocent until proven guilty. But you guys are trying to hold an inqusition where someone is guilty until proven innocent.
In America, it’s up to the accuser to prove their case. It’s not up to the accused to disprove the case.
But then I live in America. I have no idea where you people live.
John
I am an American citizen, and would gladly prove it. What proud American wouldn’t?
This is a lovely distraction for the wacko wingnuts to focus on while Obama is winning the election.
It’s up to the DNC or RNC to decide if candidates meet the qualifications. The DNC accepted Obama’s documentation. End of story.
Bob,
Nonsense, it is up to the Secretary of State in each state to validate eligibility of both voters and candidates. They must certify that a person can be on the ballot. This is why there is now 8 or 9 lawsuits in different states compelling the SOS to verify that Barak can be on the ballot.
It is possible that Obama was born in Kenya. His mother flew back to Hawaii and claimed he was born at their house. As Obama has stated he was born at a hospital. If the vault birth certificate states he was not born in a hospital, as he has said, that would raise additional questions to be raised.
This is not racist. A person that wants to be President needs to prove that they have the credentials to take that post. Obama is a very bright person and an attorney. He knows the law and it only raises more questions about why he has hired a legal team to fight disclosure of this information.
The question of the Hawaiian government sealing his birth certificate due to rights of privacy is likely heading to the Supreme Court to decide if the federal Freedom of Information Act trumps the Hawaiian Constitution.
Further, these law suits filed in State Courts will require Obama produce the information to show he is indeed a natural born citizen. If he cannot his name can be removed from the ballot now, or after the election. In other words, if he is elected and he is found not to be a natural born citizen he would be removed from office. Where it goes from there is going to be interesting. I am not sure Biden would be able to ascend to the Presidency as his right to do so flows from Obama. The Presidency could go to the next legitimate candidate with the most electoral votes.
Obama could avoid all of this by signing an authorization to the Hawaii government along with a $12.00 check. Instead he appears willing to risk what could be one of the greatest constitutional crisis since the founding of this country.
Here is a Michigan Law Review article that predicted that the Federal law suit Berg filed would be dismissed, but also states these suits should have been filed in State Courts.
Obama needs to produce the paperwork to end this. Should he be elected and he is found out to be hiding this information it will not be pretty.
Question: Has anyone else running for POTUS had to produce their birth certificate? For one John Mc Cain voluntarily produced his vault BC to prove he was “naurally born” in the US–and yes the Panama Canal Zone at that time was a US protectorate hence as good as Detroit.
Question: Was Barack born in Kenya? We may never know for sure unless the Kenyan or government or Hawaii open the records. But even if they don’t his adoption by his step father and subsequent citizenship in Indonesia and lack of any recorded Oath of Allegiance when he turned 18–necessary to re-establish his US citizenship–and his use of an Indonesian passport to travel to Pakestan all point to to dual citizenship and are reasons enough to diqualify him for POTUS.
Question: How did he get away without proof of citizenship all these years? Hell if I know–but he is not the first illegal alien to take a job in this country.
Ruby,
It is very simple how he has gotten away with it all these years. He used the Hawaii COLB to obtain a US passport without revealing that he is still an Indonesian citizen. obamacom.blogspot.com/2008/08/obama-lies-to-illinois-supreme-court-on.html clearly shows his enrollment in Indonesian school. I would really like to see the document that re-establishes his citizenship. Without said document, he is actually an illegal allien living in this country.
Employers are required to have an I-9 form for all employees. I presented my birth certificate and drivers licenses for citizenship verification. The Presidential Candidates should do the same.
Steve, stop calling people names to try and get your wish.
The State of Hawaii sealed the ‘Birth Record’. A birth record can also be some stating someone was born at a particular time & place after the fact, NOT A CERTIFICATE, nor is that certifiable as truth. It can be record of his birth in Kenya with his mother being younger than 18, not valid as US born, but record of the birth to a US citizen.
Oh, what has Kenya sealed until after the election date? Why would they have anything to seal if there weren’t any such documentation in their possession?
I have a Hawaii birth certificate and it looks like the picture on the left not the right.
If Obama can’t produce a REAL birth certificate, then I can’t vote for him
I am in favor of Obama as I have analyzed both Obama and Mccain and have come to the conclusion that Obama is the better candidate at this time. I have an unbiased view because, well… I’m Canadian.
What is very troubling to be is this entire birth certificate issue.
Here is what I have found:
Factcheck.org removed all the metadata from the posted images at http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html . This may be insignificant but others state that the images had a March 08 date. I will give factcheck.org the benefit of the doubt that the camera had the wrong date.
The large image of the raised seal at factcheck is illegible! Seals have text legible text. This is the most significant find for me and I am very sad to discover this.
About the missing seal on fightthesmears.com, I can tell you that once you scan a document with a seal and make it low res with jpeg compression the seal will disappear along with crease lines. I have scanned hundreds of documents and this is a common issue.
What is very troubling is not the missing seal, it is the misaligned characters. It is complicated to do but I have constrained the birth certificate to a grid and text containing the names and variable information are misaligned while the static / template text is aligned.
I have come to the conclusion with hours of research and Photoshop work (I am a Photoshop instructor) that the birth certificate is indeed a fake.
Now that the Governor of Hawaii has “Sealed “ the Stat and Health records this only raises more questions.
My message to Obama (if this was up to me):
Obama, you’re going to create an enormous mess! Please create and release a better forgery of all the requested documents so we can move on. Surely you could have done a better job of this! You’ve had so much time.
I really don’t care that you were born elsewhere and the paperwork is just paper. Since you were an infant and brought to America I’ll let this one slide.
If you’re true to your word America is headed for brighter days. Most of us wouldn’t care if you were Green and from outer space if you pull of what I think is in your heart. My Canadian perspective and understating of the US Constitution is that it is antiquated and should have room for an addendum but the requisites for President from the Constitution are right and should be upheld, this is why I need better forgeries to pacify everyone.
This birth issue has me deeply worried as a long time ago I speculated that once you are in the focus will be race and lack of experience and not the issues that matter to most Americans. I believe that your mobilizing, morale building sprit is an essential component in rebuilding America and I want you to win for that fact alone.
So in short, cough up the documents! I don’t care how you get them!
Per Ernie: “My wife is scared to death of his socialist-style agenda, his associations and his empty rhetoric”
lol J.C. Watts speaks! }:)
WHERE IS OBAMA’S TRANSPARENT PRESIDENCY IF HE WON’T EVEN PROVE HIS U.S CITIZENSHIP??? I’M PROUD TO SHOW I’M AN AMERICAN, SHOULDN’T HE?
I’d like a little more sunshine, please. This is all becoming a bit too fishy for me.
Why so few answers? Why seal something so generic as a birth certificate? This doesn’t make any sense… and why does the media parade around that half-assed certificate as if its not easy to alter?
Where is the real, live birth certificate? It should not be that difficult to produce for a campaign that uses government computers to pry into “Joe the Plumber’s” past so easily.
Per choperz: “Secretary of State in each state to validate eligibility of both voters and candidates. They must certify that a person can be on the ballot. This is why there is now 8 or 9 lawsuits in different states compelling the SOS to verify that Barak can be on the ballot.”
And since he in fact *is* already on the ballots, such certification has in fact already been verified. I’m afraid you just shot yourself in your very own foot with your very own gun & very own bullets there, laddie-buck. Classic example of what Rove likes to call “the low-information voter.” };)
“WHERE IS OBAMA’S TRANSPARENT PRESIDENCY IF HE WON’T EVEN PROVE HIS U.S CITIZENSHIP??? I’M PROUD TO SHOW I’M AN AMERICAN, SHOULDN’T HE?”
He did. Just because you bought into Berg’s absurd lie doesn’t prove he hasn’t, y’know.
Perhaps this posting by BW on therealbarackobama.wordpress.com sums it up the best:
“The fact is, there is no clearn answer to the questions about Obama’s citizenship and his Constitutional right to hold office. ANY OTHER PERSON would have stepped up and cleared the air of this mess at the drop of a dime. The often-criticized Certificate of Live Birth released by Obama’s campaign to Huffington Post and Daily Kos (not exactly bastions of non-partisan and independent thought) as well as on Obama’s own website have been scrutinized and called fake, and called authentic. The fact still remains that no one in the CREDIBLE Media (trying to think who that might be these days) has not had the COLB or a Birth Certificate handed to them for examination. That we as a nation cannot get straight answers about the most basic REQUIREMENTS for a candidate for the Presidency speaks more to the moral and questionable nature and obfuscation of this candidate, the DNC and the Obama Campaign than is does about whether he can even BE the President of the United States.
We need to cut the crap with ALL of this stuff: The COLB, the Ayers and Rezko relationships, the New Black Panthers, the Nigerian Delegations, the ties with Auchi and others. Even after MONTHS of scrutiny and investigation by this site and others, the fact remains that we still DO NOT KNOW the REAL Barack Obama. Why not?
His campaign surrogates often say “People are still getting to know Barack.” Knowing full-well that unless and until we ALL DEMAND FOR THIS MAN TO BE VETTED, none of us will ever KNOW FOR SURE who it is the Democratic Party has force fed to the American People.
The bigger question is why? And why DOESN’T anyone demand answers of the candidate HIMSELF, live and in person for the world to see.”
Why are we meeting with all of this resistance to clear all of this up? Why does Barak and his minions continue to refuse to be transparent? What is hidden in his school records? I have to provide documentation to get a job, why doesn’t Barak have to provide documentation requested by his employer (me) that is on par with the level of position being applied for? It also begs to question why Mr. Reality & others continue to try and defend an undefendable position by Mr. Obama. Why would you want to elect someone to the presidency who contiues to hide his past?
little steve, ‘They’ are the blacks. should he have spelled it out for you? YOU racist low-life pig.
The things Obama is telling everyone is one of the many things that are turning off Americans, including what he’s now saying about his cultural background. He is NOT Hawaiian in the slightest. He is African-Arabian. We don’t even have evidence that he was really born in Hawaii. We only have his Certficate of Live Birth. We DO NOT have his Birth Certificate. Obama campaign trolls on the internet shouldn’t even try to joke about such matters of culture to Americans because they have no idea who it is you’re trying to pretend to be, and rather pathetically so.
This is my little story;
I am a Democrate as is my Union husband. I first saw these allegations and blew it off thinking “Here goes the Republicans, trying to dig something up” BUT, then, because I like to be well informed about my candidate, I sat down last Saturday to do my own research.
After researching it all, I am now not comfortable placing my vote for Obama and neither is my husband.
It does seem to be that there are some real questions here on much of Obama’s background. Here are the documents that Obama wants to keep sealed for some unknown reason;
His “actual” “hard copy” “in front of a Judge” Certificate of Live Birth
His Occidental transcript
His roomates at Occidental
His Columbia U. Transcript
His Columbia U. Thesis
His Harvard Law transcript
His articles for Harvard Law Review
His financing for college & law school
His source of substantial funds to travel to Indonesia,Pakistan, Kenya while a student
His association with Rezko, Broadway Bank
His voting record in IL senate, including the “present” votes
His voting record in US Senate
Bills he introduced under his name in IL and in US Senate
Identification of millions of dollars of donations clearly in violation of election law and from foreign countries
And like someone else said earlier….WHAT documents ARE in Kenya that are getting sealed?
Now I was always under the impression that he who has nothing to hide, hides nothing. What IS he hiding?
Per choperz: “Why are we meeting with all of this resistance to clear all of this up? Why does Barak and his minions continue to refuse to be transparent?”
Better yet, why are *you* making such an effort to avoid giving answers to hard questions? Oh, *I* know!! You’re a troll! }}:)
“I am a Democrate as is my Union husband. I first saw these allegations and blew it off thinking”
Yeah, & I’m Count Chocula, too. *Real* Democrats know how to spell the word…. 😉
Oh, I see, YOUR going to tell me that I am not a Democrat because of a typo? So, I suppose my husband, who I have lived with for 25 years isn’t really a Union Pipefitter?
I am so glad that Barney the Purple Dinosaur cleared that up for me. Thank you 🙂
This is NOT about politics, not about republican or democrat… it is about upholding the constitution of the
United States and protecting our great country.
You all are, in fact, seeing history… You are seeing where the United States Constitution is becoming a meaningless document. Where it is shoved aside in order to allow someone who has decided to not fully identify themselves and their history.
Interestingly enough, I found that there IS no group who is responsible for verification of someone running for office. The individual simply has to “attest” that they meet the requirements.
I was going to vote for Obama until this “flap” came up. While I know I’m a small percentage, I’m now voting the other way.
There is just too much that does not pass the “smell” test.
Why are ANY “records” be they school or otherwise being sealed on someone who is asking me to vote them the most powerful person in the world?
You can make all the claims you wish, but when someone hides something… that means there is something to hide. Not really hard to understand that theory.
I fear for this Country for if he can ignore one part of the Constitution… which part is next?
I have a really bad feeling about this election… I hope I’m wrong.
“Oh, I see, YOUR going to tell me that I am not a Democrat because of a typo? So, I suppose my husband, who I have lived with for 25 years isn’t really a Union Pipefitter?
“I am so glad that Barney the Purple Dinosaur cleared that up for me. Thank you”
If you’re a Democrat you’re a weak-willed one, to be so easily swayed by invective & muckraking gadflies without bothering to check ALL the facts, at *reliable* sites, unlike the ones quoted by the Berg kool-aid drinkers. If you’re instead a Republican…
the same comments apply. 😉
I freely admit I’m a dinosaur, an endangered species — I’m an honest conservative. Therefore I’m using my brain, not voting McCain. 😉 And since I’ve been an active observer of the political scene since the Eisenhower Administration, I’d say *my* credentials are secure. }:) And even if you think mine aren’t, the fact is (verfiable, of course, for anyone mit vun eye und halfsch der brainen) that there is a huge number of staunch conservatives have crossed partisan lines to speak the truth about who *they* feel is the best for America. Don’t worry — we’ll protect you .. both from yourself & from the con artists you allowed to sway you to the Dark Side. 🙂
Per Colorado: “was going to vote for Obama until this “flap” came up. While I know I’m a small percentage, I’m now voting the other way.”
Hey, Colorado, got a question for you.
Why are you able to believe known con artists with an open & avowed agenda, but apparently UNable to believe the undeniable fact that Not One Single Solitary Member Of Congress, NOR McCain, NOR Palin, NOR The White House (who do have, after all, the absolute most to gain if the allegations are true & verifiable), have come out & taken action on it?
Heck, Bush has even ordered the Attorney General to try to prevent legitimate voters from casting ballots in OH. Would he not use something like *this* if he had it handed to him on a silver platter? You know d*** well he would. So why, then, hasn’t he?
Because he knows what you don’t (& apparently won’t) — that the accusations are untrue. And he knows that even *he* wouldn’t be allowed to get away with it if he tried, because it’s so obviously false.
Said it before, sayin’ it again — the old man here is going to laugh his royal keister off when the USSC refuses to even let Berg ask the question. That’s going to male a lotttttt of kool-aid drinkers look like total suckers. (Not that they don’t now, of course. )
The governor of Hawaii is a Republican, they are withholding Barrack’s birth Certificate.
Call me a “racist moron” all you want because all I want is proof of Obama being a natural citizen. Why is Kenya sealing Obama “records?” Why would Kenya have Obama records to seal if Obama was indeed born in Hawaii? What’s the big deal if Mr. Obama is indeed a natural citizen? Call me whatever you want, a racist, a Klansman…. I don’t care what labels you pin on me there is somthing being obfuscated with Obamas’ refusal to release the vault copy of his birth records.
I’m wrong, the seal is legible with various manipulation the characters are straight. Damn I wish I could edit my post.
I am a retired peace officer and a life long registered Democrat. When I graduated from college I spent several hundred dollars getting dozens of certified copies of my birth certificate, college transcripts, and high school transcripts because along with every application I submitted for an entry level position with police/sheriff/probation departments that I applied to I was required to submit these documents along with copies of my diplomas. I also had to submit a list of all the addresses where I had lived since becoming an adult, and any trips I had made out of country. This information was used to conduct background investigations since I was applying for jobs that required a security clearance. Obama is applying for the highest office in the land and is refusing to produce these documents? Why bother fighting a case when it can be quashed by simply showing these documents to the judge if there isn’t anything to hide?
I am two years younger than Obama and was born in Louisiana. I was born at home and the only people present were myself, and of course I have no recollection of the event, my father, who delivered me and is now deceased, and my mother. I looked over my birth certificate recently and went over the information on it. While I am certain there are records from the doctors my mother took me to shortly after my birth, the actual deed was not registered with the Office of Vital Records by my father until six months after my birth, at the time we were getting ready to move out of state. It clearly states on the document the address and Parish where I was born. Obama admits in his book that he has a copy of this document, so why is he refusing to produce it?
I also went over my college transcripts and there are fields on it that indicate what your citizenship is as well as what grants, scholarships, and financial aid you received during your education there. I am sure that grad schools would have similar information on their transcripts as well. Again, if there is nothing to hide, why not simply produce the documents and put the rumors to rest?
I think that the most important information in this case is that he traveled to Pakistan in 1981, which is admitted by his campaign, which was a no travel zone for US citizens at that time as Pakistan was under Marshall Law. On his way there Obama stopped in Indonesia to visit his sister at which point, in order to get into Pakistan, he would have had to get his Indonesian passport renewed in order to travel to Pakistan. The only way he could have renewed his Indonesian passport would be to declare himself an Indonesian citizen (his school records from Fransiskus Assisi show he was recognized as an Indonesian citizen as a minor, http://www.daylife.com/photo/01u33pL9Ns06D), because in 1981 Indonesia did not recognize dual citizenship. This would mean that, AS AN ADULT, Obama gave up his US citizenship in order to get his Indonesian passport. If this is not the case, then Obama should not have any problems producing his US passport showing that he traveled to Pakistan in 1981. Records of this should also be maintained by the US State Department.
While POTUS is a federal office, it is the responsibility of the Secretary of State to vet candidates. My thought is that he has claimed his extensive travel and connections to other countries qualifies him to handle foreign affairs as President, so he should be required to produce documentation to support claims of where he has traveled (his passports), where he was born, as well as his college and grad school transcripts. I will ask the SoS office tomorrow to properly vet Obama as a candidate and demand that Obama produce the documents requested or be removed from the ballot. To be fair, I think that the same should be done for all other POTUS candidates, however I doubt that anyone else will have a problem producing the documentation. Again, all he has to do is produce the documents to put an end to all the questions out there.
Obamas mother was white, His father black, Yet he call himself a black man. Why? Who’s the racist here? Could it be Obama? Also, I too wonder why Kenya would even have any records of Obama to seal?
I am one of venezuelans suffering Chavez and all his madness. We also though he was somehow different and beign tired of politics I did gave him my vote. Now, after 10 years in power he has not been able to give citizens a better life, but all the contrary, in the name of “socialism” he has mapipulated again and again and God help you all, but but Obama`style reminds me his beggining so much…
The governor of Hawai’i is a Republican! If she has political motivations as you claim, it would be to seal the birth certificate since it is definitive evidence of his U.S. citizenship…NOT to seal it because it is evidence of the opposite. Get your facts straight! Also, the birth certificate on Senator Obama’s website is precisely what a Hawai’i birth certificate looks like (I know because I’ve given birth there).
Healthy discord in American politics is fine – that’s what makes America great. But to participate in the spreading of outright lies only diminishes our great country. As we say in Hawai’i, “Enuf already!”
Barney the Dino Nichols if you would actually do YOUR homework and look at the FACTS, not unreliable sites, and if you had half of the conservative brain that you claim…you would question this man also. This man who has never held an executive office, this man that has not nearly enough experience to run this great nation and even said so himself in 2004, this man who has too many unanswered questions.
Just SOME of the facts;
Obama has released just one brief document detailing his personal health. McCain, on the other hands, released what he said was his complete medical file totaling more than 1500 pages. After criticism on the matter, last week the Obama campaign also released some routine lab-test results and electrocardiograms for Obama. All test results appeared normal, but many details about his health remain a mystery.
Obama has refused to offer his official papers as a state legislator in Illinois, and has been unable to produce correspondence, such as letters from lobbyists and other correspondence from his days in the Illinois state senate. There are also no appointment calendars available of his official activities. “It could have been thrown out,” Obama said while on the campaign trail during the Democratic primary. “I haven’t been in the state Senate now for quite some time.”
Obama has not released his client list as an attorney or his billing records. Obama has maintained that he only performed a few hours of legal work for a nonprofit organization with ties to Tony Rezko, the Chicago businessman convicted of fraud in June. But he has not released billing records that would prove this assertion.
Obama won’t release his college records from Occidental College where he studied for two years before transferring to Columbia.
Obama’s campaign refuses to give Columbia University, where he earned an undergraduate degree in political science, permission to release his transcripts. Such transcripts would list the courses Obama took, and his grades. President George W. Bush, and presidential contenders Al Gore and John Kerry, all released their college transcripts. (BTW, just to be fair…McCain has refused to release his Naval Academy transcript.) I think McCain should come forth with those too!
Obama’s college dissertation has simply disappeared from Columbia Universities archives. In July, in response to a flurry of requests to review Obama’s senior thesis at the Ivy League school, reportedly titled “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament,” Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt told NBC News “We do not have a copy of the course paper you requested and neither does Columbia University.”
The senator has not agreed to the release of his application to the Illinois state bar, which would clear up intermittent allegations that his application to the bar may have been inaccurate.
Jim Geraghty of the National Review has written extensively about Obama’s unwillingness to release records related to clients he represented while he was an attorney with the Chicago law firm of Davis, Miner, Barnhill, and Gallard. Obama was required to list his clients during his years in the Illinois senate. “Obama listed every client of the firm,” Geraghty reported, making it impossible to discern which clients he represented.
Obama has never released records from his time at Harvard Law School.
Obama also has not disclosed the names of small donors giving $200 or less to his campaign. An exception to the finance-reporting laws exempts the campaign from reporting those who donate less than $200, but that law never envisioned the more than $300 million that has been raised by Obama in small amounts. The Republican National Committee has released its small donors, as well as McCain’s, on a public database.
I find it dispicable that even some Democrats don’t feel that as a tax paying American citizen, they also don’t deserve to have these questions put to rest.
Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign says his campaign will bring a new level of honesty and transparency to the White House. Obama proudly touts that he and Sen. Tom Coburn, (Rep.) passed a law requiring more transparency via a public database of all federal spending.
But when it comes to offering the public documents about his own public and private activities, Obama’s record for openness gets an “F” grade.
Change? Yes Change can be good or it can be bad. It seems that there are some out there that don’t seem to care!! Good? Bad? Who cares?!! We just want CHANGE!!
All of us know what a REAL Birth Certificate looks like and it is NOT what is posted on the Obama sites. It would be very simple to post the real thing and end all the controversy. A candidate that does not do something so simple is participating the same kind of deception that the Bush administration has practiced. Honestly, if BO is elected he will continue this type of deception with the American people.
I do not doubt that he was born in Hawaii, but what is there to hide on the ORIGINAL birth certificate? My guess is that if he is not producing it there is a reason that he feels would negatively effect his chance of being elected. For a politician the election is everything. He’s about to lose my vote over this stupid issue. I feel he’s not being honest about this and will lie to the American people in the future if he does not produce it before election day. What could be so damming?
Birth certificates (like other official documents) vary from state to state. So there is no such thing as a universal “real” birth certificate, as you claim there is. Senator Obama’s birth certificate looks exactly like my son’s, which is an original from the State of Hawai’i. What’s posted on http://www.FightTheSmears.com is credible. Besides, if you don’t doubt that he was born in Hawai’i, then why is this even an issue? The veracity of John McCain and Sarah Palin’s claims regarding their own and Senator Obama’s records on the campaign trail are far more troubling – in particular, her failure to cooperate with a bipartisan (in fact, primarily Republican) panel in “Troopergate.” Talk about Bush-type deception all over again…
I recently talked to my cousin who is a stern Obama supporter. And her responses allowed me to understand how she and other obama-maniacs think: she said that she doesn’t care whether he was born here and whether or not he lied about it. Her exact words were “if he is right for the country and if the Constitution says that he has to be a citizen, then the Constitution is outdated and needs to be changed”. She said that even if he were proved to be a muslim, a follower of communist ideology, she’d still vote for him. Her hatred for Republicans (esp. GWB) is so great that she’ll vote for Louis Farakhan, if he ran on the democratic ticket (even though she is a Russian Jew).
Why prove who you are all the time. No one asked for his Birth Cert when he stood for Senate, got his passport etc. Why are they asking now?? So what if he was born elswhere but is an America. Can’t an American be born in the Serengeti or South Pole and still remain American????
Steve tone down the language. It does not help much. Ernie, many whites too are voting for McCain just coz he is white. Who listens to half what politicians say anyway?
America wake up.. You have been sleeping far too long enjoying your comforts and working to make the next buck like nothing else mattered. 911 might have woken the sleepy giant, but it made it become obsessed with terrorism and security to the extent that America is now endangered all over the globe..You need change. Will McCain bring it? That is up to you all to decide.. This socialist thing, suddenly it is the next danger for America. Germany, Austrians, Scandinavian nations have been socialists for ever. Ain’t they human beings too, living life just like Americans? Come on. Another said Obama is African-Arabian. I thought his mother came fron Kansas.. whihc part of Arabia is that? What else will they say about Obama?
The 20th amendment to the constitution, section 3, requires a president-elect to be qualified and specifies what happens if a president-elect fails to qualify – the vice president-elect (if qualified) becomes acting president until a president can qualify.
Hawaii’s Governor Lingle sealed the vault birth certificate because it was requested in Andy Martin’s lawsuit that it be sealed until his case is heard on November 7th. It’s sealed so no one can tamper with it or remove it. It’s basically being treated like criminal evidence in a police locker. Unless Obama authorizes a copy being made it’ll be introduced in a courtroom.
Someone asked how Obama could have gotten a U.S. passport. That’s easy enough. US senators are given a diplomatic passport. It automatically comes with the office. How Obama traveled outside the country prior to becoming a US senator is easy too. He used his Indonesian passport. He’s still a citizen of Indonesia. His passport records are also sealed. That too is evidence that will come out in a courtroom.
“Standing” becomes a non-issue if and when Obama becomes president-elect. The 20th amendment clearly gives every citizen a civil right to have a president-elect qualified (35 yrs old, 14 yrs a US resident, natural born citizen) before he can become president. Civil rights violations don’t require specific damage – deprivation of the right is damage in and of itself.
What I expect is going to happen is that this will quickly reach the USSC after the election if Obama wins. Discovery will be allowed, the evidence considered, and Obama will fail to qualify by a 5-4 split decision.
I believe that this would be such a huge embarrassment for everyone involved that they’re all silently hoping that McCain wins fair and square so this can quietly swept under the rug. Ane we’ll certainly see some new laws that require pre-qualification for presidential candidates in the future.
There can be no other outcome if Obama is not a natural born citizen. The United States cannot be seen ignoring its own constitution. The example that would set to constitutional democracies and aspiring democracies the world over is unacceptable. The U.S. is a nation of law and the constitution is the basis of that. Failing to follow the law is something that happens in banana republics not the world’s leading example of a democratic republic.
If anyone is wondering, here is section 3 of the 20th amendment:
Section 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
IF YOU WOULD OPEN YOUR EYES YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THE MAN IS ACTUALLY ARABIC AND FOR THAT REASON ALONE HE SHOULD NOT BE QUALITFIED FOR PRESIDENCY
Gang – One of the reasons this is an issue is because the they have: 1. Documentation from the school he went to in Indonesia that says he is a citizen of Indonesia. 2. He traveled on an Indonesian passport in 1982 to Pakistan. 3. There is no documentation proving Barack Obama has renounced his citizenship in Indonesia.
I have both electronic and vault copies of my birth certificate. Guess what? They contain the SAME information and both say CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH! In fact, the only reason I have my vault copy is my mother gave it to me. I could’nt get a vault copy from my state; I TRIED. The only thing you can get is the electronic version. You people bore me…
Per Obama ia: “Barney the Dino Nichols if you would actually do YOUR homework and look at the FACTS, not unreliable sites, and if you had half of the conservative brain that you claim…you would question this man also. This man who has never held an executive office, this man that has not nearly enough experience to run this great nation and even said so himself in 2004, this man who has too many unanswered question”
Getting a little hot under the collar, are we? Sorry, little one, the old man here has been around since the Truman administration; my first degree was in history & my first master’s was in research. I’ve been deeply involved in politics since the early 60s. I know my stuff; just because you got gulled by con artists who told you half-truths doesn’t mean everybody was. 😉 For example:
Norman said that “We only have his Certficate of Live Birth. We DO NOT have his Birth Certificate.” Uh, ‘scuse me, but that’s precisely what a “birth certificate” is — in every state its legal name is “Certificate of Live Birth,” not “Birth Certificate.” Don’t believe me? Call your state’s dept of vital records & ask. Or just go down to your local health department & ask them.
I could blow all the rest of the bushwah out of the water with equal ease, but the only purposes it would serve would be to (a) embarrass people who bought into a huckster’s con & (b) give my fingers some exercise. If you don’t want to believe me, that’s cool by me. But if you really want to prove me wrong, go check the legal authorities.
Just be prepared to have a lot of illusions shattered. I know I come across as a smart-@$$ & pedantic; my apologies, but I can’t stop being correct & start being wrong just because getting my facts right gets
somebody’s pwecious widdle feewings huht. 🙂
Remember: While it’s quite true that nobody much likes an I-told-you-so, it’s always important to remember that they *are* the ones who were right the first time. 😉
Per Lars: “IF YOU WOULD OPEN YOUR EYES YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THE MAN IS ACTUALLY ARABIC AND FOR THAT REASON ALONE HE SHOULD NOT BE QUALITFIED FOR PRESIDENCY”
Been a while since we read the Constitution, has it? Wrong on all 3 counts, BTW. He’s not Arabic, either. And even if he were, & had been born an American citizen, he’d still be qualified. Might want to re-read your old 8th-grade civics/US government textbook…. 🙂
BTW, you don’t also think the Constitution says that a president has to have served in the military, do you? A lot of people do, & that’s wrong too. 😉
Per FoxG: “He’s about to lose my vote over this stupid issue. I feel he’s not being honest about this”
Which is exactly what the con artists trying to sucker you *want*. Nobody likes the idea that they’ve been made a fool of, but that’s exactly what’s happening here. Nowhere on God’s green earth (or off of it, far as I know) is it written or otherwise required that a candidate must release every scrap of official/semi-official paper that has his/her/its name on it. But people who have an agenda have tried to make you think they do, & tried (quite effectively, it seems) to plant the seed of doubt in your head that if the candidate *doesn’t* do it, then he by-God MUST have something to hide, something so big that you shouldn’t trust him.
To be completely blunt about it (Oh, yeah, like I haven’t been already? ), you’re being swindled. It really is Just That Simple. You want to *really* show some rebellion? Tell them you’re not buying into their shell game & you’re gonna by-God vote for him no matter *what* they say.
That’s the one thing they absolutely do NOT want you to do. If y’all don’t believe me on this, just watch what the Supreme Court does or, rather, does not do. I personally guarantee you that Berg’s appeal will never even get in the door there. In fact, don’t take my word for it — go check the USSC’s website yourself. http://www.supremecourtus.gov/
If you do a search there for either Berg *or* Obama, you won’t find so much as one bleeding reference in the docket files to any supposed “appeal.” It is now close to noon Eastern time on Tuesday; Surrick’s ruling was Friday. If Berg were *actually* going to file an appeal, *surely* it would have shown up on the USSC’s site by *now*, would it not? }};)
The simple way to prove that Obama was born in Hawaii would be to question the doctor who delivered him. Why has this doctor not spoken up?
Dennis
http://www.NObamaNation.com
WE THE PEOPLE , need to stand firm and stop whining about the friggin birth certificate.
Just get out and vote Obama and all the rest of the crooks out of office…
..including the Gov. of HAWAII…
The plot thickens … like burning gravy …
http://www.rightsidenews.com/200810282366/editorial/did-the-chicago-way-work-for-obama-in-hawaii.html
“WE THE PEOPLE , need to stand firm and stop whining about the friggin birth certificate.”
Freakin’-A, bubba. <grin
It is so simple. just produce the doc’s and let the people decide. If he has nothing to hide then there is no problem. obviously he is trying to hide something he has said or done. why else
This Country’s “FOUNDING FATHERS” are rolling in their graves. The only idiots and morons (Steve)are Obama supporters. You must be a natural born citizen to qualify for POTUS. If you renounce your U.S. citizenship to become a citizen of another country (Indonesia) to receive your radical muslim education, (which Berg says he has proof of.) You no longer qualify to be President of U.S. My question to the Obama supporters. If he has nothing to hide why has so much of his, and wife Michelle’s, past been sealed until after the election? Obama is not a messiah, he is the anti-christ. If you want to talk about racist, read Michelle and Barrack Hussien (I’m not a muslim) Obama’s college thesis’. Oh, I’m sorry, they have been sealed to after the election. It made for some very radical and racist reading. Obama and the liberal democrats of Congress will destroy the U.S. along with the working class.
Quoted by Steve in a previous post: “You people are racist morons. Why would Hawaii even have a birth certificate to seal if he was born in Africa? Idiots! And, you believe that the state of Hawaii is now covering up for it? Morons! Look out from under your white sheets and view the real world.”
Calm down Steve, this has nothing to do with race. It has to do with the fact that we as Americans (of all ethnic backgrounds) are required in a lot of instances to show our live birth certificate not a record of birth which he is passing off as official. I do not want to see a record of birth this proves nothing. By Hawaii and Kenya sealing his records this shows that he has something to hide. If not prove us wrong and asked your precious presidential elect to provide it. I dare you!
I missed adding this petition – please sign! In just 2 days it has gone up by 20,000 lets push it to over 1 million if we can.
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis/
My husband and I voted over the weekend. We feel like if we had voted for Obama, we would be selling out our Country. Without a doubt, be is hiding something. I’t won’t surface until after the election though. He is as dishonest as the day is long. Since Hawaii and Kenya have sealed his records, you know he is hiding something big time. Shame on Hawaii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve heard somewhere that all documents concerning Obama in Kenya have been sealed until after the election. You can’t call somebody a racist when they just want to get the facts straight. Obama’s cousin is currently the Prime Minister of Kenya and I’ve seen articles on the net about people accusing him of GENOCIDE. How many people do you know have been accused of genocide?
After all the dialog…show the ‘vault’ certificate, and the dialog is for naught.
All part of the Obama deception, and so easy to put to rest….must be a reason why they’ve opted not to.
Hey everybody, there is WAY TOO MUCH controversy around Obama, more so than ANY person in political history. If he was white, he would be finished. The liberal media has make Obama America’s token black candidate. You can’t deny that.
Also, if Obama was not born in Kenya, THEN WHY DO THEY HAVE RECORDS! Come on Obama supporters, WAKE UP!!! Are you really buying his crap. You blind stupid fools! You’re an accessory to the biggest fraud in the history of the world!
The good news, even if Obama is elected, he can still be impeached and charged with perjury for taking the oath under false pretenses. So all would not be lost.
OBAMA IS A FRAUD! KEEP THIS ISSUE ALIVE!
http://obamacrusher.wordpress.com
“Come on Obama supporters, WAKE UP!!! Are you really buying his crap. You blind stupid fools! You’re an accessory to the biggest fraud in the history of the world!”
Actually, chum, you’re the one who’s an accessory. Do you *really* think that a competent lawyer would DELIBERATELY file a case in a court he knew in advance was going to throw it out? Not if he expected to win it. He knew the case would get tossed & why, & also knew he’d get far more exposure in public for a case he knew he’d lose in court. You want to tell us again who’s been made a fool of? 😉
Here’s a clue. Do you know what the Communists called Westerners who supported their cause? “Useful idiots.” Berg took you to the cleaners, because you trusted him & didn’t think. The Supreme Court will never even permit the case to be heard, I guarantee it. Berg knows that, people who know US law know it, & now so do you. 🙂 I really do hate to tell you, but you were suckered BIG time….
Per downwithcasey: “Since Hawaii and Kenya have sealed his records, you know he is hiding something big time. Shame on Hawaii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Uh, downwith, you DO know that the governor who sealed the Hawaii records is a Republican, do you not? To what purpose? What would a *republican* have to gain by sealing her party’s OPPONENT’S records? I’m sure Berg thanks you; you played right into his game of bypassing judgement according to the laws of the US. How does it feel to be “soft on crime”? -evil grin-
Bnichols… You are a pretty cocky SOB. What you claim is 10 minutes of cut-n-paste from Wikipedia.org. Seems you have a degree in history-my-way, and masters in web browsing. Nothing you dribble has any legitimacy other than coming from you.
It is not difficult to produce a COLB forgery, like the one the Obama aids have perpetrated and claim it to be authentic. You’re not that naïve… or are you?
You also believe what you want to believe and live in your existential bong smoke and ignore the real facts.
I couldn’t have argued the point better myself as I quote below from someone who has a lagitamate degree in law and not a clown like you who claims to have a working brain:
“The behavior of Barack Obama and his lawyers is contempt and disdain for our Constitution by asking the governor of Hawaii to seal Obama’s birth certificate so it could not be seen, by anyone, and by the behavior of Barack Obama and his lawyers, sealing his records at Columbia University and Harvard Law. Barack Obama is hiding himself from America. And he wants to be POTUS, and Commander-in-Chief?
In the litigation business, one quickly learns that if somebody has a document that will be good for them, they can’t wait to give it to you. And if somebody has a document that will hurt them, they’ll be tap dancing faster than Richard Gere in Chicago to keep you from getting it.
Obama is tap dancing.
If I were Obama’s lawyers, and if there was a good, authentic, birth certificate that proved Barack Obama’s birth in Hawaii, I would tell him to instruct the Hawaiian Department of Health to provide a certified copy to every journalist who asked about it, to the Courts and plaintiffs in all the lawsuits, and to make the original available for inspection by any expert forensic document examiner any litigant or news agency engaged to examine the birth certificate for authenticity. I would tell him to come clean, and end the speculation. And I would tell him that the speculation could cost him the election.
But that’s not what Obama’s lawyers are doing, they’re filling motions for summary judgment, not on the merits of the case, but on “technicalities,” at least in the Berg case, arguing that Citizens, voters, do not have standing to enforce the United States Constitution, and at least one judge, Richard Barclay Surrick, has agreed.
But what Obama and his lawyers and the Democrat National Committee (DNC) are not doing is being open and honest with America. They’re tap dancing faster than Richard Gere in Chicago. So we are forced to this conclusion as a matter of logical necessity:
1. If Barack Obama could produce a good birth certificate that would verify his status as a “natural born citizen,” he would. Failing to do so can only hurt him. Failing to do so can cost him the election.
2. He hasn’t, and is doing all possible not to.
3. Therefore, we can only conclude that he can’t, and that his birth certificate, if it exists at all, is either altered, forged, or shows him born outside the U.S. We have to conclude that producing his birth certificate, if he can, will prove he is not eligible to be president, not a natural born citizen, or not a citizen at all. We can only conclude that Obama and his lawyers know that producing his birth records will hurt him even more than not producing them.
Now, I could be wrong. Barack Obama can prove me wrong by producing a good birth certificate. But he hasn’t. Will he? Can he?
PART TWO
NO “STANDING” TO SUE?
In the case of Berg v. Obama, US Federal Judge Richard Barclay Surrick agreed with Obama’s lawyers and ruled that Berg, as a citizen, as a voter, has no “standing” to enforce the United States Constitution. I have read that other agencies have asserted that only another presidential candidate has standing to sue respecting the qualifications of a candidate, presumably because, arguendo, only another presidential candidate could be injured (lose an election) as a result of a non-qualified candidate on the ballot.
This may be the most patently absurd, illogical, incomprehensible, astonishing, mind-boggling, and utterly stupid argument I have ever heard in my life – and from a Federal Judge, at that. And if I didn’t make myself perfectly clear, let me know and I’ll try again.
Let’s do the analysis.
1. The U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT between The People, The States, and The United States, the federal government, that defines and limits the role of the federal government, and the rights of the States and The People, and, among other things, defines and limits the qualifications for president, i.e., that the president must be over the age of 35 years, and must be a natural born citizen.
2. Any party to a CONTRACT has standing to enforce it. This is as basic as it gets. Contract Law 101. First week of law school stuff. And it seems that lawyers and judges all over the country have forgotten all about it. Also, the Constitution was intended to benefit all American citizens, We, The People, and in basic contract law the intended beneficiaries of a CONTRACT, i.e., us, also have standing to enforce it.
3. If We, The People, do not have standing to enforce the CONTRACT, the U.S. Constitution, then it is unenforceable, and if it is unenforceable it is just a historic curiosity that means nothing. It’s just an old piece of parchment. But that was not the intent, and to give intent to the CONTRACT it must be enforceable by its parties and beneficiaries.
4. We, The People, have standing under the First Amendment “to petition the government for redress of grievances.” If we have a grievance that a non-citizen, illegal alien, is running for president, I think the First Amendment unequivocally gives every American citizen standing to sue the government to redress that grievance and enforce the Constitution.
I think Judge Richard Barclay Surrick is dead wrong, illogically wrong, irrationally wrong, legally wrong, I think his legal analysis of this issue, in legalese, stinks.
PART THREE
THE DUTY OF CONGRESS
Article II, Section 1, requires that upon taking office the President of the United States shall take the following oath:
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of the President of the
United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution
of the United States.”
Article VI, Clause 3, requires that Senators and Representatives requires:
“The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution . . .”
Members of Congress take this oath:
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”
Having taken this oath, Sen. Barack Obama has violated his oath of office if he is refusing to disclose a birth certificate that proves his candidacy for president is unconstitutional, and I believe this is a mandatory basis for his impeachment.
Having taken these oaths, the President, the Vice President (an executive officer of the United States), every member of the Senate and House, every member of every State legislature, and every executive and judicial officers of the United States and of each State, has a mandatory duty per Article VI Clause 3 of the US Constitution to “support and defend” the Constitution, and that would necessarily include taking whatever action is necessary to assure that no person who does not meet the Constitutional requirement of “natural born citizen” ever becomes President.
And every Federal Judge, and every Justice of the Supreme Court, having taken this oath, also have a mandatory duty to “protect and defend” the Constitution by doing whatever is necessary to assure that no person who does not meet the Constitutional requirement of “natural born citizen” ever becomes President. Indeed, I believe that the Supreme Court has a sua sponte duty to resolve this dispute by ordering, on its own initiative, the immediate production of all of Obama’s birth records in order to confirm his place of birth, and prevent the election of an UnConstitutional President. So far, all Justices of the Supreme Court have failed this mandatory duty.
So far, the President, the Vice President, every member of Congress, Democrats and Republicans alike, ever Federal Judge and Justice, every member of every State legislature, and every governor, have failed in this duty. They have all failed to fulfill their oaths of office. Every one. They must all demand that Sen. Barack Obama either (a) produce a good birth certificate proving his status as a “natural born citizen,” or (b) withdraw his candidacy before November 4th.
All those who do not should be impeached for having failed their oath of office.
PART FOUR
THE GREATEST SWINDLE IN HISTORY
If Senator Barack Hussein Obama cannot prove that he is a “natural born citizen,” then Obama, the Democrat National Committee, the Democrats in the Senate and House who support him, and others such as former president Bill Clinton who openly support him, have perpetrated the greatest swindle in history by falsely and fraudulently misrepresenting Obama as Constitutionally eligible to be president, concealing the truth about his place of birth, thereby inducing millions of Democrats by the fraud of concealment, by the lie of non-disclosure, by “trick and device,” to invest hundreds of millions of dollars in the Barack Obama presidential campaign to elect an UnConstitutional President.
My opinion.
Note, this is a fraud perpetrated by Sen. Barack Obama, the DNC, and hundreds of Democrats in Congress, on their own constituency, the Democrat voters of America. It is a fraud of the Democrats, by the Democrats, and perpetrated on the Democrats. And it has defrauded Democrats out of more than $600 million.
According to their oaths of office, every Democrat member of Congress has an affirmative duty to assure that their presidential candidate is constitutionally qualified. As soon as questions about Obama’s birth arose, every Democrat in Congress had a mandatory duty to confirm his eligibility by demanding release of his birth records. But, they have not. Not to my knowledge. Instead, every Democrat in Congress is complicit in the cover up – the cover up – of Obama’s birth certificate, by failing to demand full disclosure to confirm his place of birth.
In my opinion, unless Obama can produce a good birth certificate proving that he is a “natural born citizen,” then every Democrat member of Congress, every person managing Obama’s campaign, every officer and director of the Democrat National Commitee, and every person who has ever taken an oath to “support and defend” the Constitution and is now supporting an UnConstitutional candidate for president, has participated in a vast left-wing conspiracy to defraud millions of Democrats out of hundreds of millions of dollars to elect an UnConstitutional President.
In my opinion, every one of these people, hundreds of them, should be prosecuted for fraud under the Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), for if Obama is not a “natural born citizen,” that is what the Democrat National Committee (DNC) has become. And every one of them should be tried, convicted, and sent to prison for decades, for this is a $600 billion swindle of America’s Democrats, a swindle perpetrated by the DNC and Barack Obama.
Now, I could be wrong. I could be wrong about every opinion I have expressed here.
Sen. Barack Hussein Obama can prove me wrong, quickly, simply, easily, by opening the doors of the hospitals and the Hawaiian Department of Health and showing us, showing America, showing the Democrats, all of his birth records.
Unless and until he does, I will remain convinced that Barack Hussein Obama is not an American citizen.
FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Raymond S. Kraft is an attorney and writer in Northern California. He can be contacted at rskraft@vfr.net.”
WHAT AM I MISSING HERE ???
WHY IS THIS BEING DISMISSED? How can Obama take part in a US presidential election running to be our Commander In Chief, with access to our nuclear arsenal, and not be a proven United States Citizen??? You cannot even get a driver’s license without producing a legal birth certificate. Who is in charge of this? Someone in government has to be serious about this. It is in our constitution, so who is enforcing it? We are going to be the laughing stock of the whole world by even letting it get this far. I am certain that this guy is NOT A CITIZEN otherwise he would have provided this document freely. He probably went to visit granny so he could make sure he destroyed the birth certificate she had in her possession.
Please tell your listeners WHY this is not being addressed by someone in government?
Per Bellagio: “Bnichols… You are a pretty cocky SOB.”
There’s a very old saying: It ain’t brag if you can back it up. I’d be quite willing to put my next 3 paychecks against anything you could pony up, that Berg’s laughable “appeal” to the Supreme Court to stay the election won’t even get a hearing. He swore blind he would have it filed at the Supreme Court today, yet there is no record whatsoever of it ANYwhere on the USSC website.
If I’m “cocky” it’s because I know what I’m talking about. };) If you did also, you wouldn’t have posted what you did, so it’s safe to assume I’m not the cocky one. -snicker- Dollars to doughnuts says once the high court refuses to even hear his alleged “case” that you won’t be anywhere to be found.
BTW, the word “legitimate” is spelled *that* way, little one, not “lagitamate.” If you’re not even able to spell words that are in the average 5th-grade vocabulary, you don’t have a whole heap of credibility to draw on, laddie-buck. }:)
I am saddened that our country is unable to get the most important paper that we all own out of Barack Obama. I really don’t trust him at this point since not showing this means he doesn’t have one and most likely is not Natural born which in effect means he is going against our constitution. Spitting in our faces and laughing the whole time. If he is lying about this, what else is he lying about? Look at all the awful people he associates with. Do I think he is the enemy from within? Absolutely and I should not be fearing this for my country, myself or my children, but I do.
The worst thing about it is the media bias in not reporting this and making it an issue of national security. It seems money talks and he knows he can just buy his way through and ignore our laws since he probably knows them better than all of us. What a smug man! I hope that what I fear is not true for all of us. I can only cast my vote for McCain and pray that we all see him for what he is.
Just a note: I would love for him to prove me wrong and just submit the damn vaulted certificate to the Supreme Court or authority that can be trusted. Trust is running thin with me. He has lied about too many things in his campaign to be trusted to his word.
Socialism has been creeping into this country through various individuals for years. With Obama’s election (I pray not) it will come to fruition. True citizens of the US will be the minority… Redistribution of Wealth will ruin the country. (How much of Barack’s millions has he promised to “redistribute”?) But Barack will accomplish what no other president could-he will make all races in the United States equal…..Equal Slaves……All of you morons who are voting for change should have been paying attention when we voted for change in Louisiana and got Kathleen Blanco -bless her heart……I’m talking to you, Steve.
The problem is that Obama refuses to produce the “vault” certificate which is the document which the state uses to issue the certificate. The vault certificate shows the doctor, hospital etc.
Obama has refused to release this “vault” certificate and that is the document that has been sealed by the governor of Hawaii.
There must be a reason. From 1911 to l972, Hawaii permitted a person over the age of one to obtain a birth certificate by submitting an affidavit from the mother that the child was born at home. Thus Obama’ls mother could have obtained a birth certificate for Obama – thereby ensuring he was an american citizen. Obamas Kenyan grandmother says he was born in Kenya… Obama may be ineligable to be president if he was not born in the US. That what makes Obama refusal so puzzling — if he does’t produce the vault certificate – it leads to endless speculation that he has something to hide..
Taking Obama’s word that the document actually exists, I can think of only one possibility to explain his refusal to publicize his birth certificate:
The document must contain information embarrassing to him.
Could it possibly identify his religion as Islam? Or his race as Caucasian?
I can not vote for Obama with all this hidden innuendo surrounding him. If he were honest, he would reveal the truth.
In Hawaii in the 1960’s, Certificates of Live Birth were issued for individuals not born in Hawaii, if a parent was a Hawaiian citizen for at least one year.
Release the original. Calm legitimate concerns.
Allow for constitutional sanity. Avoid all
suspicion.
Listen guys, there might not be a birth certificate to seal. So they’re sealing something that isn’t there. Which is the only way to make it seem like it exists, while still crying fowl using made up privacy rights.
I don’t know what outrages me more:
1) the possibility that a US Senator would lie about his eligibility for the presidency, or
2) the gall of a Federal judge to say that any member of “We the People” lacks standing to inquire about any constitutional issue.
If you STILL support Obama, you are choosing to ignore the biggest fraud in history and your character is as questionable as his.
There is so much smoke and controversy around this guy that he should have been ran out of the country long ago. If he was white it would have already happened. Just LOOK at the facts idiots.
If you are an Obama supporter and Democrat, I’ll sum it up for ya; you are basically telling everybody, “I sit on my butt and collect free welfare checks and others who aspire to succeed are making too much money. I think I want some more of their money.”
Reference: 10% of Americans pay 70% of the taxes. Smoke that liberal trash.
For the truth go to http://obamacrusher.wordpress.com
My theory is that Obama does not want his birth certificate released because he was born a hermaphrodite. Just one theory.
Affidavit and Tape-Proof Obama Born in Kenya
Two parts: 1) Computer read affidavit then 2) actual recorded phone call with Sarah Obama (Barack Obama’s Paternal Grandmother who lives in Kenya)
At the end of the phone call you can hear Ms. Obama affirmatively says “Obama Mombassa” when she was asked where Barack Obama was born.
LISTEN TO AUDIO: http://www.youtube.com/watch…
or LISTEN TO AUDIO of this Sunday, November 2, 2008: http://www.americasright.com/2008/11/sarah-ob…
This is some of actual evidence submitted to U.S. Supreme Court. See printed affadavits on website of Phillip J. Berg: http://www.obamacrimes.com
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EXCERPT FROM AFFIDAVITS W/ AUDIO TAPE THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THE U.S. SUPREME COURT BY PHILLIP J. BERG (found at his website: http://www.obamacrimes.com ):
Bishop McRae asked Ms. Obama specifically,“Were you present when your grandson Barack Obama was born in Kenya?” This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she specifically replied,“Yes”. It appeared Ms. Obama’s relatives and her grandson, handling the translating, had obviously been versed to counter such facts with the purported information from the American news media that Obama was born in Hawaii. Despite this, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States. When Ms. Obama’s grandson attempted to counter his grandmother’s clear responses to the question, verifying the birth of Senator Obama in Kenya, Bishop McRae asked her grandson, how she could be present at Barack Obama’s birth if the Senator was born in Hawaii, but the grandson would not answer the question, instead he repeatedly tried to insert that,“No, No, No. He was born in the United States!” But during the conversation, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama never changed her reply that she was in deed present when Senator Barack Obama was born in Kenya. A copy of the Tape transcript is attached hereto as EXHIBIT “A”.
I left Kisumu City and traveled to Mombosa, Kenya. I interviewed personnel at the hospital in which Senator Obama was born in Kenya. I then had meetings with the Provincial Civil Registrar. I learned there were records of Ann Dunham giving birth to Barack Hussein Obama, III in Mombosa, Kenya on August 4, 1961. I spoke directly with an Official, the Principal Registrar, who openly confirmed the birthing records of Senator Barack H. Obama, Jr. and his mother were present, however, the file on Barack H. Obama, Jr. was classified and profiled. The Official explained Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. birth in Kenya is top secret. I was further instructed to go to the Attorney General’s Office and to the Minister in Charge of Immigration if I wanted further information.
Second, Ronald McRae’s affidavit:
Since Senator Obama’s birth was reportedly in 1961, birth records may or may not be available, so I felt it very important to obtain the testimony of his grandmother as a first hand witness, since it is commonly known throughout Kenya, and especially around the Kisumu area, that Sarah Obama was present when Barack Obama, Jr. was born in Kenya.
Accordingly, on Thursday, October 16, 2008 Reverend Kweli Shuhubia, an evangelist with our ministries in Kenya traveled to Kogello and located Ms. Sarah Obama at her home, see the attached email, attached as Exhibit “4”.
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WHAT WOULD CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS LOOK LIKE IF OBAMA IS LYING ABOUT BIRTH CERTIFICATE:
Excerpt from http://www.americasright.com/2008/10/gaining-…
Article: “Obama Must Stand Up Now Or Step Down”
By Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., Harvard Attorney who has argued cases before the Supreme Court. Weds. Oct 29, 2008
What are some of those consequences?
Listen my fellow Americans…sheet wearers included (unfortunately dumb folks like sheet wearers exist in all countries, in their forms). In 1961, Kenya was a BRITISH COLONY. Kenya was NOT an independant country. If Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, he would be given a BRITISH citizenship as Kenya was a BRITISH PROTECTORATE…Unfortunately most of my fellow Americans are uneducated about the world history…let alone our OWN history.
What can I say, I don’t agree with Sen. Obama, but this witch hunting smells racism, and you all know it. Why are you hiding on the white sheet of the internet? Come on! Admit it, you are soooo racist, you can’t fathom a Black man actually at the precipiece of being the President!
Sad, sad, sad, sad, sad,sad,sad,sad,sad,sad,
S-A-D!!!!!
I hope Christ is watching you all….I hope you have fear of the after life…racist like you will be punished by Christ….(who by the way was not white)
I am no history buff or expert on this matter, but here are my thoughts:
1. I have a birth certificate in my safe presentable to anyone at anytime. Why didn’t BO have this around before the primary?
2. It was different time back when BO was born. Hawaii had just become a state 2 years earlier. Meaning it was the wild west. If a mother new what was good for her son-especially with all the drama of her Kenyan hubby-she needed to establish that BO was an “american”. This meant getting “birth certificate” and putting an announcement in the paper. Far fetched? Not for a world traveler who understood the issues at play.
3. If BO is declared not a natural citizen, somehow they will leave him in power. Why? The American Idol crowd wouldn’t care if he were born on Mars. The loony left wouldn’t either.
4. If BO were interviewing for a tenured position at a prestigious University, do you think they would allow him to leave all those items sealed?
He speaks well-but he is a fraud.
The constitution specifically states that to be eligible for the highest office in the land the person must be born in the USA, in a US territory or on a US military base. McCain was born on a naval base in Panama. He immediately furnished his records when he was accused of being ineligible.
How did Obama get his passport, and eligibility for the Illinois legislature? People in high places can get anything done. Ayers family is very wealthy as is Rezco. Chicago has been a hot bed of mobsters and the also the Daley Political Machine. Those of us that were around during the 60’s race riots know what a police state it can become up there. Chicago has a long history of corruption and graft. Read your history.
Solve the issue by producing the documents. From what I understand the court has put the burden of proof on Obama to produce the document by December 1. Suits are being filed as we speak by Electors in the Electoral college who are BOUND to uphold the Constitution. The Electors would indeed, I believe, have “standing” in this issue. If all else fails it is up to the Department of Justice to clear up the issue and let me tell you Mr. Obama will not be so flippant when they ask for the paperwork. I also understand that refusal to produce the document defaults to the judgement of ineligibility for office. You must ammend the Constition first if you do not like the law not circumvent it. The law stands until it is ammended, which it has not.
The vault version of Obama’s birth certificate will be produced. There is a court hearing set for Nov. 18 in Hawaii, and one on Dec. 1 at the Supreme Court.
If it turns out that Obama has lied and misrepresented facts about what is contained on his original vault version it could lead to a finding that he is not a natural born citizen as defined under the Constitution eligible to hold the office of the Presidency. In other words, he would not be able to take the office, or would have to leave the office. It is important to understand that he could still be a citizen, but not a natural born citizen.
It is unfortunate that Obama has taken the course of having all of his records sealed as it gives the impression that he has something to hide. If he has been hiding something there will be serious consequences.
If this is found out before the Electoral College meets they will not be able to vote for him and would likely have to vote for the candidate that received the next most popular votes.
All of this over a $12.00 birth certificate that Obama could have had release long ago and ended this the wild fire speculation on the internet. The problem is not with the Citizens asking the questions, the problem is with Obama and the Democratic National Committee for not answering this openly and transparently.
Why is so many people are looking for the negative in people and while there is so much go in this world.For the last 8 years I have been working 3 jobs in order to maintain a roof over my head while helping my son through college byself without the help of any family members.We were lead to believe that things were fine until the bottom drop out.People be for real stop judging someone and put the effort on getting jobs back and money back into your pockets in order to live.If he can do this and get the economy back where it should stop complaining.I bet some of you who is writing now have or in the porcess of losing your job,house or your jobs have been outsource to diffrent countries and everything you have work so hard to get is now or in the process of losing.He is only trying to help the people of the United States get back where they use to be if he can do some of this then who am I to stand in his way I’m tied of struggling.I proud to say I voted for the change.
Steve said,
in October 27th, 2008 at 10:33 am
You people are racist morons. Why would Hawaii even have a birth certificate to seal if he was born in Africa? Idiots! And, you believe that the state of Hawaii is now covering up for it? Morons! Look out from under your white sheets and view the real world.
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Hawaii has a document, certification of live birth for American Citizens who have children abroad who are not qualified to be citizens of the U.S. These citizens of Hawaii must have a way to get their children in and out of the country with them and need some type of birth documentation. However, the documents do not state they were born in the U.S. but in the country they were really born, but states that the parent is the actual parent. Get an education would you?
John Adams said,
in November 8th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
…. It is important to understand that he could still be a citizen, but not a natural born citizen.
UNLESS HE IS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN. THERE ARE OTHER DOCUMENTS REQUIRED THAT HE HAVE IF HE IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, AND NOBODY HAS BEEN ABLE TO PRODUCE THOSE EITHER. HE MIGHT NOT EVEN BE QUALIFIED TO SERVE AS SENATOR, OR REMAIN IN THE U.S. LEGALLY.
All of this over a $12.00 birth certificate that Obama could have had release long ago and ended this the wild fire speculation on the internet. The problem is not with the Citizens asking the questions, the problem is with Obama and the Democratic National Committee for not answering this openly and transparently.
RESPONSE: I SUSPECT IF HE HAD AN AUTHENTIC BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR IF ONE EXISTED, HE WOULD ALREADY HAVE AUTHORIZED IT BE RELEASED. THE FACT THAT HE HAS NOT IS HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS. ADDITIONALLY, HE HAD INSISTED ON SEALING HIS COLLEGE ADMISSION APPLICATIONS WHICH WOULD ALSO HAVE LISTED HIS COUNTRY OF BIRTH. THIS IS ALSO VERY SUSPICIOUS.
President Bush can clear all of this up by using an executive order before the electoral college meets . The way in which the Hawaii governor is securing the birth certificate reminds me of the way George Wallace blocked a school house door in 1963. President George Bush needs to show leadership the same way President John F Kennedy did and order Governor Linda Lingle to give up the birth certificate to federal authorities
Write to your Senators and House Members and demand that the Senate and House review Obama’s records. Here is the most asked question of the week from the Electoral College site http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/questions.html
Question of the Week
Who verifies if a candidate is qualified to run for President?
Answer:
The Office of the Federal Register at the National Archives and Records Administration administers the Electoral College process, which takes place after the November general election. The Office of the Federal Register does not have the authority to handle issues related to the general election, such as candidate qualifications. People interested in this issue may wish to contact their state election officials or their Congressional Representatives.
Because the process of qualifying for the election and having a candidate’s name put on the ballot varies from state to state, you should contact your state’s top election officer for more information. In most states, the Secretary of State is the official responsible for oversight of state elections, including the presidential election. Visit the National Secretaries of State web site to locate contact information and web addresses for the Secretary of State from each state and the District of Columbia.
Under federal law an objection to a state’s electoral votes may be made to the President of the Senate during Congress’s counting of electoral votes in January. The objection must be made in writing and signed by at least one Senator and one member of the House of Representatives. Both the Senate and the House of Representatives debate the objection separately. Debate is limited to two hours. After the debate, both the Senate and the House of Representatives rejoin and both must agree to reject the votes.
Unavoidable scenario: If SCOTUS disqualifies Obama BEFORE 1/20/09 inauguration, McCain is POTUS per remaining electoral college electors; if SCOTUS disqualifies Obama after 1/20/09 inauguration, Hillary likely becomes POTUS per vote of Dem controlled House of Rep. Either way, is clear Obama will NOT be or remain POTUS.
Here’s some food for thought. My dad was born atound the same time as Pres. elect Obama. He has a birth certificate which has his given name. When he got his social security number he got it under another name. Not a name he was given at birth. He then got a passport with the name not on the birth certificate. This is not a false passport. He had to provide the appropriate documentation to get his passport. He did this all legally. His driver’s license is also in this changed name. He was not adopted. So, if the country can give my dad a passport and driver’s license and all other documents in a name which my grandmother apparently decided to change with no legal inervention, then I would think that it’s possible for Barack to have an invalid birth certificate which was documented 4 days after his birth.
We The People of The United States Of America ( DEMAND ) Obama produce REAL birth Certificate !
The one above is FAKE !
Hawaii says they have his birth certificate on file. I was born of American military parents in 1955, in Germany. I have a true German birth certificate registered and on file in the state of Wisc. because this is where my mother was from. I served 24 years in the military and was never given a Top Secret clearance but only a secret. I was not born on a military installation but was a natualizing citizen by virtue of both parents being American. If you was to contact the state of Wisc I am sure they can verify that a birth certificate is on file. Hawaii has stated a certificate is on file. They have not showed the certificate so you don’t know the who what or where of the details.
Obama is a lier and a FAKE just like his Fake BC on line .
He really needs to open up his real BC . Prove he really is an American Citizen . If he don’t and gets inaugurated on Jan 29 th, then the truth comes out after this. How will the rest of the world see America then ! Because if the truth comes out that he is not an American citizen after hes inaugurated he will have to be impeached !
Correction on the date Jan. 20 th
Well just to let you know Senator John McCain never produced his birth certificate either. Why because Senator John McCain isn’t a natural born citizen of the United States.
A lawsuit challenging Mr. McCain’s qualifications is pending in the Federal District Court in Concord, N.H.
There are, Professor Chin, Constituional law Professor, argued in his analysis, only two ways to become a natural-born citizen. One, specified in the Constitution, is to be born in the United States. The other way is to be covered by a law enacted by Congress at the time of one’s birth.
Professor Chin wrote that simply being born in the Canal Zone did not satisfy the 14th Amendment, which says that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.”
A series of early-20th-century decisions known as the Insular Cases, he wrote, ruled that unincorporated territories acquired by the United States were not part of the nation for constitutional purposes. The Insular Cases did not directly address the Canal Zone. But the zone was generally considered an unincorporated territory before it was returned to Panama in 1999, and some people born in the Canal Zone when it was under American jurisdiction have been deported from the United States or convicted of being here illegally.
The second way Mr. McCain could have, and ultimately did, become a citizen was by statute, Professor Chin wrote. In Rogers v. Bellei in 1971, the Supreme Court said Congress had broad authority to decide whether and when children born to American citizens abroad are citizens.
At the time of Mr. McCain’s birth, the relevant law granted citizenship to any child born to an American parent “out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States.” Professor Chin said the term “limits and jurisdiction” left a crucial gap. The Canal Zone was beyond the limits of the United States but not beyond its jurisdiction, and thus the law did not apply to Mr. McCain.
In 1937, Congress addressed the problem, enacting a law that granted citizenship to people born in the Canal Zone after 1904. That made Mr. McCain a citizen, but not one who was naturally born, Professor Chin said, because the citizenship was conferred after his birth.
Marie, obviously you haven’t done research or know anything about gain any clearance for government work.
The FBI, CIA, Homeland Security all have reviewed Presient-Elect Obama’s Certificiate of Live Birth and gave him secuirty clearnance long before he even started to run for President. May I also reminded you these same people have Republicans in charge of their department and if they could have revealed that President-Elect Obama was “Not a Natural” citizen then they would have.
Do your research because McCain is not a “Natural Born Citizen” see my post above. Also here is another nail in your coffin of lies:
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stated by greg777. But I have to wonder if people understand what Muslim means. Muslim is a religion- it is not a race nor an ethnicity. … read more Now, Barack Obama states that he is a Christian. This is his choice under freedom of religion. It is not up to greg777 to decide Obama’s religion nor the religion of anyone else. One’s choice of religion is not based on what you were born into. Nor is is based on your middle name nor the color of your skin. Your religion is based on your choice- not what greg777 deems it to be. And Barack Obamas choice is Christian. Accept it.
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HONOLULU – State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.
Fukino says that no state official, including Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama’s certificate be handled differently.
She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.
This is to steve—-
The big difference between Obama, and G.W. Bush, or John Mc Cain, or Joe Biden, or Hillary Clinton is the fact that he has a foriegn father, was more than likely born in a foriegn country, and refuses to provide documents that are a required part of becoming the President. No one asked Bush, or Biden, or Clinton for them, because there was no doubt about where they where born. With Obama, there is.
im a 10th generation american..we are all foriegn born.Elect a native american next time
so we dont have this issue
The sentence is not backed up by Dr. Chiyome Fukino’s official statement…State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. How about some quotes and which official said this since all they seem to say is we hold the original and we are not telling. Quote an official and let us get that quote verified.
Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.
Fukino says that no state official, including Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama’s certificate be handled differently.
She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.
This case is really easy since no hospital in Hawaii will claim little Barack. No hospital .. . then he must have been born at home ?? but he says in his book he was born in a specific hospital which denied his claim. So why won’t a hospital claim him? Good publicity or was he born in Mombasa as the British, Kenyan, and his own relatives claim? Let us face it Barack’s mother was not married when little Barack was born. No big deal. Stop trying to hide it.
This is a very serious issue. If in fact it is a legitimate birth certificate, why did the governor of Hawaii put a seal it and why did his lawyers seal his records at Columbia University and Harvard Law. Why is Barack Obama hiding things? If you have nothing to hide, you cooperate and bring forth the evidence quickly to dispel anything concerns. He has not done this. How many people would put a seal on their Birth certificate unless they had something to hide?
He has not cooperated and brought forth a simple document, not a copy that is questionable. It is sad because he has appeared to snow many people with smooth talking words. In the meantime he has had seriously shady connections. Also does anyone ask why he was backed by Castro and Iran? Aren’t these concerns and also the fact that he is getting top secret information now?
I think everyone who is concerned should write their congressmen to look into this right away and also write John McCain at johnsmccain@johnmccain.com since apparently he is the only one who can really do something about it. See this informative site for more important facts. http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1614/pub_detail.asp
Why are Obama’s Birth cert, records at Columbia & Harvard sealed & Castro & Iran backed him? Why is he getting TOP SECRET info? Write your congressmen & email McCain johnsmccain@johnmccain.com… since apparently he is the only one who can really do something about it… according to http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1614/pub_detail.asp “…only another presidential candidate …could be injured (lose an election) as a result of a non-qualified candidate on the ballot.”
See http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81581 & http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=81550 to SIGN PETITION to the Electoral College, Congress of the United States, Federal Elections Commission, U.S. Supreme Court, President of the United States, other controlling legal authorities that this be looked into correctly. It is only right that Obama produce his Birth Certificate and other information and stop hiding them before he goes any further and gets MORE TOP SECRET INFORMATION!
American, if you are a 10th generation American, then you are not foreign born.
We don’t have standing? What the justices fail to remember is that the “citizens” they are talking about are their bosses. We pay their salaries. If the boss asks their worker to make sure the customers they are serving meet the government laws (ex. old enough to buy beer) then that is what they need to do. If not they will be fired.
Fired is exactly what we need to do with these arrogant do nothings.
Before the election I was online trying to tell people that Obama has questionable alliances because he was brokering money to MarxistOdinga,advocated for Odinga and was in Kenya, while on your tax dollars, also never having held one meeting on Afghanistan while chairman, yet had the audacity to tell people we should have gone there only, and not Iraq. This man has sold the biggest lie to America, and he himself is a person of divided loyalties, which the founding fathers sought to prevent. And all who say it does not matter are of the globalist fraternity who are of divided loyalty. We must not compromise our constitution. If the courts fail to satisfy the citizenship issue, and sweep this under the rug, then we might as well have Putin as President. We the people have a right to ask for all issues pertaining to his residencies, passports, birth certificate. When the DMV asked for a birth certificate, I did not say well it’s personal. Question is how did Obama get a drivers license with a certification of Birth, as some say the DMV does not accept it? If that is all one has, they have to. But if that is all Obamas has I do not have to have him as my president. Any citizen should be able to challenge, this is an outrage, and the courts are a bunch of arrogant attorneys just sticking together against the little guy, if they ignore this. We might as well move to Russia.
I have no clue what 10th generation American means. Obama had an America mom, that entitles him to citizenship, but not the presidency. He had dual citizenship no matter where he was born because Britain conferred it upon Kenyan subjects, and whether his dad married his mom or not, Obama inherited British Citizenship. He was born with dual citizenship regardless of all else. I do not believe the framers intended this to be allowed either, but wonder if there are any rulings on this.” Natural born” to me would exclude dual citizenship candidates.
Well Obama can take his top secret info to the electric chair because it will be treasonous if he fraudulently obtained the presidency with intent to pass on info. He seems pretty stupid to me but not that stupid. I doubt he can make a move that is not monitored at this time. But there is something very wrong and the executive branch knows it. Troops are being brought back from overseas, it is rumored. Expecting a crises? We are in one, most people are just not aware yet.
This Woman’s Op,
I know but you see why my party has become “The Party of The Stupid.” Try and find McCain’s detail medical records, high school, and academy transcripts. YOU won’t! They don’t even have the sense of understanding privacy laws.
http://www.rbs2.com/privacy.htm
MEET THIS CONDITION:: (Those against Obama and McCain’s rights under the Privacy Laws.) We want to see YOUR Birth Certificate posted, including your lawyers, and supporters, every single one of you, listed on any addy of your choice. We must first be convinced that YOU are an American Citizen and not some infidel conspirator, hell bent on destroying the Republican party.
As further proof of my party being “The Party of the Stupid”, we screamed about Rev. Wright’s Christian “Black Liberation Theology”, a pastor of a branch of The Church of God in Christ, and Obama belonging to that Christian church while all the time “believing” he was a “muslim”, who didn’t belong to any mosque in the United States, or registered with any mosque in the United States or been educated by any leader of any mosque in the United States; and lives across the street from a Jewish Temple. (Duhhh)
Obama been in Rev. Wright’s church for over 20 years.
Republican party = The Party of the Stupid. Any doubts why we lost the election??????????
Have a great laugh Demo/Libs… we have proved we are… “The Party of the Stupid” Touche’
I still await proof of Birth Certificates from all who wishes to overturn the Privacy Laws of the United States governing McCain and Obama’s decisions. Post all to any internet addy for everyone to confirm.
u guys are stupid as hell (coming from my friend right next to me)because: quote on qoute – “The Obama birth certificate ISSUE may become an ISSUE.”
ummm it is an issue stupid asses XD
When Obama moved to Indonesia when he was a child, he did not have a US Passport but no one is talking. In fact, at that time, US Citizens were not allowed into the country.
When Obama visited the Middle East a number of years ago, he did not have a US Passport, but no one is talking.
Obama was issued his first US Passport shortly after being elected to the US Senate, but no one is talking.
Congress has reviewed Sen. McCain’s birth records, military records, college records, etc., because he provided all of them when the question was raised. If fact, Congress passed a resolution declaring that he was a US Citizen and qualified to run for President.
Congress has not seen Barrack Obama’s birth records because he refuses to produce them, along with his college records and other school records.
It is anybody’s guess what is being hidden! Maybe citizenship, maybe he went to school as a foreign citizen and got assistance, maybe school was paid for by questionable people, who knows?
BUT SOMETHING IS CERTAINLY NOT RIGHT!!!
As a moron I consider my country to be more valuable than someone’s feelings. I have seven kids to answer to for my time hear on earth. O.J. finally got his due,so will Obama. As a governor or an facilitator you need to consider my State rights deprived of them
I believe that we must follow all the rules and regulations set forth in our constitution. That includes all candidates for the office of the President to produce the required documents. In this case proof you are a natural born American. What I have a difficult time with is why this wasn’t required and checked before he (or any President before him)was allowed to run for the office!
If as some have suggested that this is just the Presidents way of giving the opposition the finger then that isn’t right either. We need to be straight forward in the USA. That’s the change I’m hoping for.
As long as you “birthers” are pre-occupied with this issue (because you refuse to do the actual research which confirms that the document produced by Obama is legitimate proof of birth and U.S. citizenship) you won’t be focused on your agenda to further the destruction of our country that was started by the Bush administration. So debate away. He must be doing a helluva job if this is the best you can come up with.
Knowing someone is a “birther” just makes them easier to ignore.
Until Obama or the State of Hawaii releases his ACTUAL birth certificate – the original document – then Obama’s legitimacy should, and will, remain in question. Why don’t they just release the original document? . . . Unless there isn’t one to release . . . The COLB, printed in 2007, is not a birth certificate and has no weight. Obama remains “undocumented” for meeting the qualifications to be President.
I am not a nutcase or a conspiracy theorist but Obama’s birth certificate is a fake. Keep in mind that documents change over the years and may not contain 100 % of the original info. But there is one thing that will never change and I have not found a site that points this out. The numbers on a birth certificate from the time they started using a form rather then hand written start with a state code number usually 3 digits then a 2 digit date code and then the individual document serial number. I have been doing a lot of research on this all the birth certificates I have seen online( have seen 2 from Hawaii) mine my wifes and my children’s all have this type of numbering. Not until the late 90’s did they change the system of numbering. Obama’s is 151-1961.It should be 151-61. Now the big question why would they change his number? They never change!What is he hiding, I don’t care if he’s is pink with purple dots. Get a photo copy of the original, thats all we ask.
I think school districts and states nationwide made a huge mistake when during budget cuts they dropped civics classes. I am amazed at the general ignorance of so many adults under the age of 60 about how our political system and laws work.
The fight over the Obama birth certificate also seems to be based on the clearly wrong notion that the US issues birth certificates or that Hawaii was not a state when the President was born. Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1, states: “The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.” US Citizenship is thus deteremined by the state of birth.
Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 states: “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;….” also requires that a President be a natural born Citizen, since those a Citizen at the time of the adoption of the US Constitution are long dead. This thus raises the question of what is a natural born Citizen, although common u9nderstanding means born in the United States borders. A test of McCain’s eligibility to run would have settled the definition of natural born citizen to either include or exclude those born as US citizens by law (naturalization and laws conveying citizenship to those born on US military bases outside the US or to an American parent living or visiting abroad.
There is no doubt whatsoever that President Obama is and always has been a natural born citizen. Even the year Obama was born doesn’t raise questions since Hawaii was a state before the President was born.
People with common sense would realize that President Obama could not have even obtained a US Passport to make his trips abroad if he had not proven his citizenship, which is a condition of obtaining a passport.
The State of Hawaii has vouched for the authenticity of the President’s birth certificate, and states in general are converting to electronic records of birth instead of keeping on paper millions of pages of original birth certificates. What the format of the birth certificate was is largely determined by the year of printing and not the year of birth.
Why are we so ignorant?Obama is an honest human being-law abiding to the core.Obama was born In America!!!!
We adore u President Barak Obama!!!!
hugs from Wrigley Field-Chgo IL
Still to this day there has been no proof a birth certificate! A DMV paper stating there is a paper that exists? I can make one of those up in about 5 seconds! I actually went in to a DMV and took a blank sheet of the paper they use without them knowing it when I asked them to find out something for me. Its basically the same looking document with a few paint shop pro changes! lol! She walked away and I grabbed it! Went home and made my own paper just like he did~! lol! people keep saying whats they big deal? I say the same thing! Ya you’re right! Whats the big deal! Show it! Its the law! maybe he was born here? But I doubt it and the more time goes on the more I remain to believe he does not have a true citizenship of the USA and was not born here! Still the wander that remains is? What is this man hiding! Now the last thing that gets looked over by everyone I have seen on this matter! They say that he is a born citizen right? Well he proved he is one by this paper that says his name is what on it? It states that he was born
(Barrack) Hussein Obama?
Well he has stated many times his real birth name is Barry! So would the birth certificate or the one that he at least provided say on it:
Barry Hussein Obama? BUSTED! Kenyan! You are not my president you lying treasonous impostor! Birth certificates and copies of them will always say the persons real name on them!
Re the Obama birth certificate fiasco, in 1991 National Security Directive 63 established the Single Scope Background Investigation (SSBI) as the standard for access to Top Secret defense information, Secret and Top Secret Restricted Data and Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI). In 1995, Executive Order 12958 established the Security Policy Board to develop common set of investigative and adjudicative standards for access to classified information. All federal employees, Representatives and Senators and the POTUS who lawfully required access to classified information in performance of his/her job, was required to undergo an SSBI, an extensive and in-depth background investigation. This include a check of birth records (its authenticity), education and financial records, travel to and relations in foreign countries, personal habits and associates, indication of subversive activities, and most importantly, loyalty to the US. Most Representatives and Senators undergo such investigation as have Senator Obama. The position of POTUS requires the most stringent checks to meet both constitutional and security requirements. Investigations are conducted by the FBI, the Defense Security Services and/or the Office of Presidential Personnel,,and includes coordination and checks with a huge number of security agencies, swollen as a result of 9/11. President Obama has no obligation to release his private papers since these are officially and duly examined by highly trained professional security investigators, with expert legal adjudicators rendering final decisions as to veracity and efficacy of the investigations. All of this is in accordance with duly established law.. If the President replies to each citizens demands to produce every private document, imagine the flood gates of demands for millions of citizens producing their birth certificates and other personal documents to any citizen or watchdog groups. The background investigations conducted by the duly tasked security agency should satisfy any federal judge and turn back all frivolous challenges by birthers who completely ignore the nation’s well established security apparatus and unleash a torrent of politically tinged attacks and lies. Why hasn’t congressman or White House, who are intimately aware of such investigative procedures and requirements, not out front to inform their uniformed constituents?
OBAMA IS HAWAIIAN BORN NATIVE OF USA
In a ward of the Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital on 1319 Punahou St, Honolulu, Hawaii, Eleanor Nordyke was in labor with Stanley Ann Dunham (Barack Obama’s mother). It was August 4, 1961. At 7:24 PM Barack Obama was born. The following day Eleanor Nordyke delivered twin daughters. On August 13 and 14 the Honolulu Advertiser and Honolulu Star Bulletin respectively announced Barack Obama’s birth along with the name of his parents and home address on Kalanianaole Highway, Honolulu. This information was routinely provided by the bureau of vital statistics as a public service. Eleanor Nordyke subsequently received copies of “Certificate of Live Birth” for her twins, which listed the time/date/place, parents name/citizenship/address, hospital name and attending physician/nurse. This certificate was more of an internal hospital record of a birth, which vital statistics people used for their convenience by adding the bureau’s name to the certificate. This was carried in the national media triggering a huge outcry for Obama to produce a similar document. However, in 2001 Hawaii decided to convert its vital statistics files to a digital data base with computerized reporting from hospitals. This conversion was completely coordinated and was designed to meet all federal and states legal requirements. including privacy laws. However court challenges occurred with three US SUpreme Court decisions validating the new CERTIFICATION of Live Birth nation-wide.
This is the certificate Presidential candidate Obama presented in 2008, after Hawaii issued same in June 2007.
It has been challenged and questioned by birthers and supporters since and several courts have turned back lawsuits. Kapiolani Hospital spokesperson have consistently stated that privacy laws prohibit the hospital in either confirming or denying a persons birth, but birthers have falsely claimed that the hospital claimed “no record of Obama’s birth.” Hawaii state authorities have repeatedly released official public statements attesting the validity and authenticity of information/documentation proving Barack Obama’s birth in Hawaii. Nothing seems to satisfy the birthers because their aim appears to be totally political in nature. Would sworn statements from Eleanor Nordyke, her family members or former Kapiolani doctors/nurses help lower the noise. I differ to wiser heads.
The post above this is pure PAID FOR ASTROTURF PROPAGANDA.
HI is now under broad legal scrutiny. Fact.
The only neighbor that lived next to the address listed in the paper as obamas birth address does not recall a racially mixed couple or an infant of mixed race ever living at that address. obama sr. lived alone at an 11th Avenue address in Honolulu, closer to the university. He never lived at the address listed in the birth announcement. Fact.
. Dunham left Hawaii for Seattle in August 1961, 15 days after obama was born. In the early 1960s women were “required” to spend a week in hospital after giving birth. Fact.
Eleanor Nordyke has never made any statement that she had met obamas mother in the hospital as this comment from the preceding post tries to imply :
“Eleanor Nordyke was in labor with Stanley Ann Dunham ” The FACT is that they never met in the hospital. Her statement:
“Eleanor Nordyke told WND she thinks her twins got lower numbers because she went into the hospital Aug. 4, 1961, and was in labor for 20 hours before she delivered. She speculates that Ann Dunham came in after her and was given a later number, even though Dunham’s baby was born earlier. Nordyke’s twins were not born until the afternoon of the next day.
NOTICE please, that Ms. Nordyke “speculated” that Ann came in after herself.
Clearly, they were NOT in labor together, so did not meet, as the last poster tried to imply.
Although it is important for obama to release the long form birth certificate, it is NOT AN ISSUE of whether he was in fact born in HI to most American Citizens. The issue is the battle he fights against producing such a common little ordinary document.
But the real issue is being hidden in the smokescreen of the birth certificate clamor.
obama is NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN as is required by the CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES.
obama was a dual citizen at birth, governed by Britain through his fathers citizenship in Kenya. obama himself stated, and is quoted on factcheck:
“From his own web-site Fight the Smears, “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
How could it have expired in 1982, ‘IF HE NEVER HAD IT?’”
He was a NATIVE citizen, NATURAL BORN requires both parents be citizens, and be born on US soil.
obama is not, and has never been, nor can be made into, a natural born citizen.
It doesn’t matter if he was born in full sight on the feet of the statue of King Kamehameha, witnessed by every good Citizen on the island.
He is ineligible to be the president of the United States.
FACT.
A dual citizen, a man born under British rule through his Kenyan father, sits in the White House in blatant disregard of the requirement in the United States Constitution:
Constitutional provisions
Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as President of the United States:
“ No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Friends, this is no “crazy birther” fiction. Many people are certain that the issue of the birth certificate is intended as a smokescreen to hide the issue of obama being Constitutionally ineligible, for that CANNOT be hidden under any seal, or behind any door, or in any vault.
Demand your rights. Demand an answer!
Go here: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Come on Americans, we have been delivered from racism. Let us move forward as a nation. Other less developed countries are catching up with us(China, Brazil etc etc)
Wow, I love all the pathetic “race card” bull crap your moronic libs and “progressives” are pulling on this article.
90% of these posts are from co-intel pro st00ges and government shills on the payroll as part of the Axelrod/Sunstein thought police.
Well, I hope they’re all enjoying that “hope and change” they were promised! Obama never said what the “change” would be, but things sure have changed since he got in office! Record unemployment, record spending, bailing out corporations, government ownership of auto makers and banks, Obamacare shoved down our throats, new tax hikes on the horizon, the list goes on and on. Not to mention all his socialist cronies occupying high positions in the administration. All the while, the “golfer in chief” lives it up on his vacations while looking down his nose at the American people. He’s suing states and individuals who dare to defy him, while laughing about “not wearing his birth certificate on his forehead”. (still hasn’t produced that document, though! or any of the other documents in question!) He goes overseas on his big “Apology Tour”, sends Britain their gift back that they gave us after 9/11, manages to piss off the southern states after the BP oil spill, and says the Muslims have a right to build a mosque two blocks away from ground zero. Allows Calderon to stand in front of Congress and lecture our country, and the idiot Democrats stand there and applaud while Obama doesn’t say a word! He’s good buddies with Hugo Chavez, too. So I hope all the people on this blog who championed his campaign and voted him in are happy with their decision, because the rest of us sure aren’t. The man thinks he’s a king/dictator and the constitution be damned. He is a one term president. He is OUT OF HERE in 2012!!
i think obama was born in kenya why don’t he want to show his birth certificate and if that’s the case why is he president, your spose to be born in USA to even run for president. it looks like to me that he was paid in, is’nt that nice more coruption in our government. if they put him in for another term all u moron’s are dummer then i thought. and what ever happen’s in this next term you all deserve what you get.because it isn’t going to be good. obama trying to take controle of all of us tell us what we can do and what not we can do come on people wake up. i think the government is in to much of our business and enough is enough where is our freedom going. telling us to eat this, don’t eat that, do this don’t do that,our government is what’s making every thing go up. when our elders went through the depression thing went down, our government says we went through a recession well they raise things so high we can’t afford anything what’s wrong with this picture.it’s got where i don’t trust none of them and obama should be taken out of office like any of our other presidnt’s if they did anything wrong.a concerned USA citizen. worried about ou country.
Has latest Obama Certificate of Birth [4-27-11] been examined by objective experts?
Was it released by the Department of Vital Statistics? If so, why didn’t the Dept of V.S. show the original to all?
Something still isn’t right here.
Thank you, Mr. President for releasing that Birth Certificate and being “transparent” about this. As you have probably by now been informed by your staff, there are things about it that are fishy. I hope those oddities were the innocent mishandling of the original at HI Vital Stats Office. I’m sure they were wanting just trying to help and do a good job, but they should have just made a high resolution pdf of it and sent it to the White House as is. Hopefully, this is the end of it and nothing else stinky raises its head. We’ve had enough stink from your secretiveness. Would you consider letting us know about how good your grades were at Columbia and Harvard? I had a 3.8 in my two degrees, how about you? Just saying; your citizenry would like to know all we can about our President. You know? Transparency.
Thanks again,
Personally, I could be really offended everytime a Liberal accuses someone that thinks like me of being racist. I want to ask, racist against the black half or the white half. They don’t make sense. I’ve voted for a man that is blacker than BO and when I speak my conservative mind, I’m called a racist. Have they ever considered that anyone (like perhaps them) that is so quick to call “racist” the policies of others that are contrary to the policies of their “black” man, that their rush to use the word “racist” may in fact indicate that they may be the more race conscience ones.
Of course Obama was born in Kenya. If he was born in the USA there would be NO reason for having his certificate sealed. Why doesn’t he be made to show it? All other presidential hopefuls had to prove birth, schooling, health records. I don’t care if he is black — he should have to submit ALL of his records. Let’s get rid of the controversy and get rid of him in November. A good solution to EVERYONE’S problem
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