Jose Baez likely should have stuck to ambulance chasing, he clearly is not ready for prime time. With his ‘talking head’ Todd Black opening his mouth and solidly sticking his foot in it over the ‘dead child’ comment, what else can go wrong?
Who Knows? But what we can do is examine how Jose Baez has operated in the past. He is not comfortable in the courtroom, he much prefers for cases to dissipate into thin air. He has only had one chance at defending a murder case, and guess what? He lost it. This is hardly a stellar resume, but of course it could be argued that ‘killers can’t be choosers’, well I think that is the saying.
Most of the legal pundits have picked up on the fact that Jose Baez missed an obvious chess move at the arraignment hearing. Rule number one when you are defense is to forward a motion for a speedy trial. Oh, don’t get me wrong, speedy is a misnomer, but it does move the case forward from the glacial speed that the prosecutors would prefer, the more time they have, the more evidence they can amass. The speedy trial motion forces the prosecution to move at a speed more approaching that of a garden snail moving from baby lettuce plant to baby lettuce plant.
It is in the defenses interest to do what they can to rush the case to a jury as soon as possible. This limits the ability of the prosecution to acquire more ‘fire power’. Jose ‘hot shot’ Baez seems to have forgotten ‘Defense lawyering 101’, he failed to ask for this fundamental right. As it now stands, and I personally have no problems with it, the prosecutors can take their time to find new evidence, and build their case.
The question becomes, one of how much longer can Baez hang in there? Of course from Casey Anthony’s userous perspective, all of this plays right into her hand. Regardless of how guilty the jury finds her, Baez has provided a wealth of ‘get out of jail free cards’. What should be realized though, is that this is not a game of Monopoly, this is about a missing, and presumed dead 3 three year old.
I can understand the police wanting to make sure that they have every scrap of damning evidence, but I also think there is a basic need to bring this sad case to an end. I am not a proponent of the death penalty, and years ago, in England voted for its removal as a form of punishment. I still have that belief.
The ‘eye for an eye’ biblical’ punishment style has no place in our modern world. However I will make the exception for some monster that would kill her own child!
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackA child killer has no morales and deserves no pity from anyone. It is unfortunate Cindy lives in lala land and George must be appeasing her which in itself is very disturbing. One would think a nurse would have more smarts. Wake up folks – your innocent granddaughter is forever gone and worthless Casey made this happen.
ENOUGH OF THE BOGUS LIES FROM CINDY,LEE, GEORGE, CASEY AND BAEZ !
i’VE HAD IT !! CINDY AND GEORGEIS THE REASON CASEY HASN’T FESSED UP TO THE MURDER.
HOW can the grandparents leave innocent caylee to rot in the woods or landfill as they IGNORE ALL THE EVIDENCE.
int’s unthinkable ! cindy even gets and lies on tv stating casey never abused caylee. Then where was caylee left while casey ” went to work and was with her friends ?
We want cindy arrested for obstruction and destruction of evidence !
Spokesman Says Baez Has Assembled Team Of Experts To Assist
POSTED: 6:16 pm EDT October 15, 2008
UPDATED: 6:40 pm EDT October 15, 2008
ORLANDO, Fla. — WESH 2 News has learned that Casey Anthony’s lawyer, Jose Baez, is not qualified to represent his client in a capital murder case.
Within 175 days from her indictment, by Florida law, prosecutors have to try Anthony for first-degree murder.
Anthony’s daughter, Caylee, was reported missing in mid-July.
The state has strict guidelines for who can and can not represent a capital murder defendant. Legal expert William Shaeffer said Baez does not qualify.
He’s not been a member of the Florida bar for five years, criminal procedure,” Shaeffer said.
According to his spokesman, Baez is well aware of this policy and has assembled a team of legal experts to assist him including an attorney qualified to try a death case.
If there is a conviction, Shaeffer said by law it would be up to the jury to recommend a death sentence or life.
“It’s highly unlikely a jury recommends life. A judge will come back and give her death,” Shaeffer said.
Since Caylee’s body has not been found, the state attorney is relying on circumstantial and what he called “cutting edge” forensic evidence.
“This prosecutor’s office brought the first successful use of DNA to the American criminal courtroom. We’re used to complex evidence and we’re prepared to manage the scientific evidence in this case,” Lawson Lamar said.
Young Mother Offered No Information To Investigators After 4th Arrest
POSTED: 4:25 pm EDT October 15, 2008
UPDATED: 6:03 pm EDT October 15, 2008
According to a source who spoke with her, Anthony did not offer any new information on her daughter Caylee’s whereabouts. Anthony had requested court approval to travel to places of interest in private with her attorney to prepare her case, but on Wednesday, those motions were ruled moot since she was charged with first-degree murder. (The judge has not ruled on another motion to preserve DNA evidence.)
After the grand jury’s indictment was handed up, an investigator said they were waiting for Judge Perry to issue an arrest order, which he did.
That meant intercepting Anthony after she’d gotten out of her mother’s car on state Road 417 and gotten in with her bail bondsman. He intended to take her back to jail.
Bottom line, that investigator said, they wanted to send a message about who was driving the investigation.
The notion of Anthony being allowed to turn herself in on premeditated murder charge was not an acceptable option.
In a fax, a spokesman for Baez called Anthony’s rearrest show-boating and a sham.
What’s next for Anthony could last several weeks.
Both sides are now gearing up for a trial. The state has 175 days to put Anthony on trial for murder.
If Caylee’s body is never recovered, long-time Orlando defense attorney and prosecutor William Shaeffer said it will be harder to convict or get a death sentence.
“You’re going to have a hard time convincing citizens she should give up her life even if they do believe she committed some level of homicide,” he said.
The state accuses Anthony of failing to provide adequate care for Caylee leading to her death, but the indictment does not give a specific theory of how the child died.
But obviously, one investigator said, evidence of chloroform in the car and Anthony’s suspected computer searches on the solvent will be key in prosecutor’s argument that this was premeditated murder.
Currently, Anthony is at the Orange County Jail in protective custody — meaning she can see other inmates but can’t talk to them.
She spends the better part of 23 hours of the day in her cell with no access to television.
She can request the use of a radio and it’s up to the staff if they want to let her use one.
Anthony has one hour a day to shower, make monitored outgoing phone calls, and spend time outside in the recreation yard depending on Weather and jail staff.
Will Baez Continue As Anthony’s Attorney?
Since Casey Anthony’s murder indictment, questions have been raised as to whether Jose Baez will remain her attorney.
According to Baez’ representative, Todd Black, he will remain on the case to represent Casey Anthony in the murder charge.
Black said right now the case has not been declared a capital murder trial, and said Baez has been preparing for this possible scenario by building a team of attorneys, including one who handles capital murder.
BB (Jose’ Baez) needs to take his own advice and stay silent.
I personally want a good legal defense — with at least one seasoned attorney who has many capital cases under his belts — in place before this goes to trial.
If not, then there will be so many appeals and cries of inadequate representation that she may get out of this.
I would say maybe that’s what BB is planning all along–but no…he’s really as stupid as he has been acting.
Will she get the death penalty? Probably not.
First-degree murder is punishable by death, but the history of female killers executed in Florida during the past 150 years is brief.
The state has executed only two women in the modern era. The third, a slave who killed her master, was hanged in the mid-19th century.
Of the nearly 390 people on Florida’s death row, only one is a woman.
Leonard Birdsong, an associate professor at Barry University School of Law in Orlando, said women are rarely sentenced to death. And he does not think Anthony, who was indicted Tuesday in the disappearance of her daughter, Caylee Marie, is a good candidate.
The young single mother has no prior criminal history, is not an obvious predator and has made no known confession, he said. He also suspects Anthony could have psychological issues.
“If I were a prosecutor, this probably would not be the case I would seek the death penalty,” Birdsong said.
Only 1.5 percent of death-row inmates nationally are women, said Richard Dieter, executive director of the nonprofit Death Penalty Information Center. But most of those 51 women killed someone they know: a husband, boyfriend or their own child, he said.
The decision to seek the death penalty often is tied to politics and community outrage rather than the heinousness of the homicide, Dieter said.
Even so, though the Anthony case is the kind of crime that shocks the public, “many women have killed their children and don’t get the death penalty,” he said.
Randy Means, spokesman for State Attorney Lawson Lamar, said Wednesday that he could not discuss prosecutors’ plans for Anthony. But he did say they will make a decision in the next few weeks.
hopefully Baez doesn’t do something so that she can get off by any legal misrepresentation on his part, also hopefully they will have found Caylee’s body by then or evidence of one.
gum @ 3:35 i was wondering if baez was up to something like that cince he didnt request a speedy trial?
5 months is along time to be in pc all alone maybe it will make her want to talk and get it over with faster!
Another great article Simon!
I haven’t reviewed Baez’s stellar resume. It goes without saying he probably didn’t anticipate being compared to Cochran and the other greats associated with Mark Fur….whatever. I’m not too familiar with legal plays either, though I found the snail analogy quite humorous, as any novice gardener would. Perhaps you meant ‘beggars can’t be choosers’ since this case is done pro bono…unless I am confused and someone meant Sonny Bono. (I’m blonde).
I agree with you that this isn’t a monopoly game; however, it was Padilla that started the ‘get out of jail free’ cards. Perhaps he was hoping to get to Boardwalk and ‘cash in’. So far it’s just the Nancy Grace show…what a let down. Actually, after reviewing some of the footage I can’t help but wonder why Casey should have to stand trial at all, or better yet, why do they even build court houses? Isn’t that a waste of funding?
And yes, a Biblical “eye for an eye’ has no place in the modern world; perhaps scripture does have a place in softening the hearts of those who have lost sight of Caylee. Before we had ‘cowboys and Indians’ such as the bounty hunter crews there were horsemen that graced the backwoods giving intense meaning to the Hebrew word ‘Icabod’.
This from wftv. The “defense defends itself” Please note Baez’s statement beginning “My case..” How utterly totally stoopid. . .
“Baez said he wants to make it clear that the defense team believes that Caylee is alive and that it’s still getting new leads about her whereabouts that are being shared with law enforcement.
“My case looks extremely good if we find Caylee,” Baez said.
Baez also said Thursday that he has a death penalty qualified attorney on his team, but that attorney remains as mysterious as PR man Todd Black, because Baez won’t say who it is.”
My note: Todd Black has never shown his face and for sure he won’t ever now!
2C…what’s with the Original biz?
Have you ever noticed I never used the word ‘my’…you’ll always be mytwocents to me. (fondly)
THERE IS ANOTHER M2C HERE SO SHE CHANGED HER NAME SO WE COULD TELL THE DIFFERENT
Who is the other harelipped bit#$?
WHO U TALKIN BOUT RV?
WHY DO U HAVE TO CALL PEEPS NAMES AND ALWAYS CAUSING PEOPLE HURT FEELINGS. JUST WHO THE HELL U THINK U ARE?
COME ON RV…… TAKE ME ON.
ME SANKS U CAN DISH BUT NOT TAKE. HMMMMM COME ON
U SURE R QUITE.
WAITING
LET ME SEE THE KIND OF BALLS U HAVE!!
THE NEW BLOGGER HAS THE SAME NAME AS M2C. NO PROBLEM. THEY WORKED IT OUT. U ASK
“Reasonablevoice said,in October 16th, 2008 at 8:56 pm Who is the other harelipped bit#$?”
WELL. I AM HERE TO ASK U (RV) JUST WHAT KIND OF “harelipped bit#$” U R? PLEASE TELL ME
AND WHAT U SAID ABOUT CAT YESTERDAY. DAM GIRL OR BOY OR WHATEVER ARE YOU SO STUPID AS TO BE SO MEAN. YOU SOUND LIKE THE BULLY IN GRADE SCHOOL. IF U DON’T WATCH UR MOUTH — U WILL BE KICKED OUTTA HERE. WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR CHILDHOOD THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT THIS CRAP TO UR ADULT HOOD??? PLEASE I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW. I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU
U WON’T SPEAK TO ME BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT NUTTIN U CALLED ME WOULD HURT ME. U ONLY LIKE TO HURT AND THAT IS SAD.
Wow! Gosh MAMABEAR…SO MANY POSTS! Is it almost hibernating season? Perhaps you should grab yourself a sextant and take a slow boat to China…you could certainly use a vacation. Go on…take a load off.
G’nite…sweet dreams fluffy furry one.
TOOK AWHILE TO ANSWER HUH. THATS OK. U GET SOME SLEEP AND THINK ABOUT HOW MEAN U COME OFF. U WOULD LIKE ME ON A SLOW BOAT SO U COULD PUSH ME OVERBOARD. LMFAO
U WOULD JUST LIKE ME TO (((((POOF))))). GONE.
I WON’T LEAVE LESS AM FORCED TO.
Hi Everyone
MAMA,
Just ignore it.
MAMA,
Are you still here?
HEY CAT. IS TO LATE FOR ME TO IGNORE IT. DUN TOLD RV HOW THE COW ATE THE CABBAGE—IN A BACKWARD SORT OF WAY. LMFAO
Now your on the list.
Rv will go after you, be careful.
I’M ON UR SHIT LIST? HOW COME?
LET RV COME ON. I GOT BIGGER BALLS N SHE DOES
No, on RV’s list. He will attack you. Don’t worry MAMA we have yur back. I will email Jan and tell her he is starting up again.
DID U C ABOUT M2C AND THE NEW ONE?
I don’t know if it’s a he or a she, but I think it is a male.
HESHE?
Yes, before I left this afternoon. Why does someone have to come in and take her name. Screws everything up. Now they changed their name to mythreecents?
I saw your photo on myspace.com you are quite beautiful.
WELL, THERE ARE PROBABLY LOTS OF MAMABEARS OUT THERE. BUT I CAN ALWAYS SAY MAMABEAR-ORG. LOL
THANKS. WAS BOUT 15 YEARS AGO. I THINK IT IS ALL OK WITH THE 2 M2C
You still look like a movie star.
Was mytwocents upset?
AWWWWWWWWW U B SO SWEET
It’s the truth.
DON’T THINK SHE WAS UPSET. JUST TOOK A MIN TO GET IT WORKED OUT. ALL IS GOOD
You know some people just peek in here and watch what is being written then they just pop in, and start stirring the pot.
DID U READ WHERE RV STARTED ON THIS?
Reasonablevoice said,in October 16th, 2008 at 8:25 pm 2C…what’s with the Original biz?
Especially, that one you had the run in with earlier.
REALLY DON’T THINK SHE WAS TRYING TO BE BAD. MAYBE NOT THINKING. I CAN SEE ME DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT
Yes, I did read all the posts. I don’t know why some people have to be so mean for no reason.
I COULDN’T FIND THAT ONE. WHERE IS IT. THEY SAID TIM LOOKED HAMMERED?
Didn’t he tell you to take a slow boat to China? That’s what i mean why say mean things like that?
It was last night on NG.
WELL, CAT. WHAT I SAID WAS PRETTY MEAN
TRUE BUT MEAN
No it wasn’t. He is afraid of you.
Telling you to take a sextant. What is a sextant?
SEEMS LIKE IT HUH!
Some kind of sex pills?
I’LL GO LOOK.
That is uncalled for.
ok
sextant
noun
1. a unit of angular distance equal to 60 degrees
2. a measuring instrument for measuring the angular distance between celestial objects; resembles an octant
Where is everyone tonight?
hi which blog are we on the mom is the killer or this one?
How does that relate to what he was talking about?
PROBABLY TELL ME I NOT SMART. BUT AT LEAST I’M NOT A BULLY
HERE IS MY EMAIL ADDY:
longsloft@embarqmail.com
Hi flower
This one
hey flower. i am on both
His days are numbered.
where is everyone?
Your on two blogs, MAMA
Don’t know flower.
brb
LETS GO TO OTHER ONE GUYS
What is the other one MAMA?
Dear Heavenly Father we pray that you watch over the missing children of the world. Specially Cole, who was abducted at Gun point from his home. We ask you to comfort his family and guide the Law Enforcement as they search for him. Comfort him and keep him from being scared. We also come to you and ask that you watch over all the family and friends Of Caylee, all the Law enforcement working on her case, for the searchers that are trying to locate Caylee. Help give us hope so we can continue to be positive and focused on bringing Caylee home. We pray that you help bring our Beautiful Caylee Marie Anthony home so she can be buried with the dignity,respect, and honor that befits our beautiful girl. All these things we pray in Jesus Name. AMEN
AMEN
LU C4C
NITE
(((((HUGGS)))))
I dreamt Caylee was found in a shallow grave. It was discovered because she was in a plastic garbage bag and a corner was sticking up out of the ground. Very sad.
4:29 am: Poor Danna! That’s where it ended? Your dream could of been reality, we will see. I hope that monster did preserve her in a bag. Will help investiagtors determine casue of death much better.
all the time that c insists m was a great mom then why did m say c accused her af being a unfit mother? im sure it was more than once.
hi anna
That’s just c’s back peddling style
that TB must be related to c and m somehow…he cant’ tell the truth either and that back peddling show was pretty lame! Don’t buy his mumbo jumbo either
hi c~a, didnt think anyone was here:) was loking aroun at dif news stories, came accross the little boy draged out of his home, now there you know something else is going on (drug deals and stuff) and they reported it right away instead of conducting thier ow supposid search or waiting for 31 days, i keep listining to the first interviews with m, every one she claimed to tell about caylee being missing wasnt even around or didnt exist, and hoe she couldnt rember any # so in fact she couldnt have told anyone,i know i keep saying this i just dont understand!!! i guess its so crazy thats whyits caught everyones attention. (did that make sence?) but also there is another location by a witness who saw someone that looked like her comming out of the woods with a bag and shovel, they arent sure if that areas been searched before, if not maybee some luck for le there!
YA’LL STILL HERE?
hi mama
HEY ANNA
HOW DOIN?
TRYING TO GET ME EYEBALLS SCREWED IN RIGHT.
i cant believe all the time i seem to spend on here, my shoulder still hurts:) ive been looking at all the florida papers boy alot of stuff happens there scary!
are you in florida?
I KNOW. I HATE TO EVEN GO TO POTTY CUZ I MIGHT MISS SOMETHING.
I AM IN PA. WHERE DID U SAY U WERE?
I’LL BE BACK LATER
I heard Todd Black’s telephone interview with Mike Galano on CNN Headline News, and he DID make the comment as reported by Headline News. In fact, I was SO shocked when I heard his comment, I tried to call Headline News’ 888 number to make sure I had heard what I thought I had. I also wondered what he may have heard about the evidence presented at the grand jury hearing which convinced him of Caylee’s demise.
Then, Black and Baez only made it worse with their numerous attempts at damage control. First, they said the comment was “edited.” Then, they said it was “misrepresented.” Then, they said he did make that comment, but was only “quoting” what a prior commentator had said while responding to that commentator. Fianlly, Baez said the comments were taken “out of context.” Let me assure you, CNN is correct – I, along with a million other viewers, heard those exact words out of Mr. Black’s – and in the context CNN is presenting them. Mr. Black was NOT playing off a previous commentors remarks. In fact, he started his remarks with a rather sarcastic harangue against Mr. Galano. What I think happened was that Mr. Black lost his temper during Mr. Galano’s questions/comments and the comments of the other guests and the audience was treated to a “Freudian slip” by Mr. Black. I believe we actually heard his true feelings regarding Caylee.
Casey Anthony Murder Charges Featured On Live Internet Talk Radio.
17 October, 2008 Chatmag News.
Due to this past week’s developments in the Casey Anthony case, our Internet radio show for next Sunday will be an expanded edition. Chatmag’s “The Interactive Internet” program on Blogtalkradio.com will air a one hour program featuring news and your phone calls regarding the disappearance of young Caylee Anthony, and the murder charges leveled against her mother, Casey Anthony.
Join us Sunday, 19 October at 6 PM Eastern time, for a live Internet discussion of the Caylee Anthony disappearance. The show is “The Interactive Internet” on Blogtalkradio.com
Chatmag broadcasts an Internet talk radio show every Sunday evening at 6 PM Eastern time, and covers topics related to any and all discussion related technology, news from the chat world, and topics currently being discussed on the Internet.
The Caylee Anthony disappearance has been front and center in the news, second only to the Presidential Election. We’ll be taking your calls on this and any other news story, or other topics of interest to the Internet chat world.
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The word is “gaffe” and plural is “gaffes”.
SO? DID U GET THE JEST OF WHAT WAS SAID?
INTERESTING READ:
And although Cindy continues to defend her daughter’s innocence, telling “Today’s” Meredith Vieira, “I know Caylee is alive,” that blind optimism might be at the very root of Casey Anthony’s problems. Her parents consistently bailed her out of trouble.
“Casey’s parents are not completely to blame for her missteps, but they most certainly contributed.”But there were most likely signs of trouble early on that could’ve been averted.
Of course, not every child that disobeys or lies is destined to become a murderer — only 1% of population are truly diagnosed as anti-social sociopaths, regardless, steps should be taken so children are aware of their actions and their impact on others.
If Casey had learned these valuable lessons, Caylee Anthony might be safe and sound at home.
*******************
summarized article
taken from from “mom logic”
WHAT TIME WAS THAT POSTED?
mamabear..what was said where?
The Dude said,in October 17th, 2008 at 9:14 am The word is “gaffe” and plural is “gaffes”.
I DIDN’T GET IT. LMAO
BRB
did anyone see the interview on News 13. I thought it was sad when George mentioned he was ready to commit suicide. He says that his daughter is involved in something. It is just going to take time to sort through, But that everyone is losing sight of the fact that there is still a missing little girl out there. No C with him either.
where would i find that interview c4c?…that’s horrible
sorry found it…brb
This is this link
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html
It was really sad. and the protesters too.
I don’t know what will happen to George when they find the body of Caylee.
I GUESS IT IS A VIDEO?
yea but there is an article there also that you can read. have you tried clicking on the link
C4C, CAN U POST THE URL PLEASE
isn’t that what I put at the 9:27 am post? Or did you want something else
I know there are alot of people out there who ONLY believe m murdered baby caylee and alot on here too…including myself…however..
The protesters who were going to the house all the while m was there Ithought were protesting the fact that casey was NOT in jail…I was very angry too…at times got out line..
m is now in jail…george and cindy however seemingly dillusional to the evidence are clinging to hope and still trying to find that baby….they ARE ENTITLED….
THIS IS WHAT MAKES ME SICK…
Protesters are now attacking the again…basically following HIM…a grieving grandfather around shutting down (not sure how) every venue he is trying to set up to continue looking for caylee..
THIS IS WRONG..THIS SHOULDN’T BE HAPPENING.
For the love of God and Caylee herself…
LEAVE GEORGE ANTHONY ALONE…
M is in jail…This poor man is suicidal…I mean …he didn’t do the crime…why are these people so against him looking for his grandchild…IT’S DISGRACEFUL that people feel the need to CONTINUE HARRASSING THESE GRANDPARENTS…just cause we don’t have the same opinion on the wellness of the baby? THIS IS TRULY A CRIME IN ITSELF
MY HEART GOES OUT TO GEORGE ANTHONY
THANKS C4C
Evidently they are complaining to the landowners of people who let them set up the booth on their property. I think that is wrong. He has as much right to his opinion as we have to ours. I believe he feels he has no choice but to believe she is alive. He does also say that she is involved in somethng… take time to sort it out. Maybe he just means checks and stuff. that is pretty obvious to me.
Does anyone know when they have to turn over their evidence to bb as to the date. I know it ws 10 days. I am going to guess that might be released to public based on freedom of info act there in FLa.
CA,
I think it is a disgrace that these protesters are still at it.
The protesters need directions to the Jerry Springer show.
So sad…So George is prob. meaning that m is involved in something..(prob. me telling him someone took caylee for drug debt settlement)
They haved learned that they have power. Regardless of M’s guilt they haave a right to search and who knows maybe someone seeing the picture might remember something. Not to find a live Caylee IMO, but that could help locate her body. There are so many people coming forward now. Just like the one yesterday with the guy who saw her in a straw hat and sunglasses. Was it really her? skeptical yet for me.
Hey cat…I’m all wound up here..can ya tell..LOL
WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY DO FIND CAYLEE ALIVE.
I dunno c4c – all i keep thinking about with the guy who saw m with the hat and red glasses was that the GROUND WAS BONE DRY…
yep it would. I would be the first to get on here and type I was wrong…. has anyone heard anything about the little boy missing in Nevada?
NO GOOD NEWS ON COLE
OMG…Mamabear…I wouldn’t stop crying if that baby was found alive…and my bleeding heart ( as my hubby calls it) gets sucked in and out of that almost 0 possibility that she is…My common sense tells me she is NOT alive and has arguments with my heart that wants to believe there is hope…OMG..I need a hug!
WELL, FER SURE—–IF THERE IS FACT TO WHAT GEORGE BELIEVES AND PROBABLY GOT FROM M, THEN DON’T YOU THINK AT THIS POINT IT WOULD BE THE RIGHT THANG TO DO IS GIVE ALL THAT INFO OVER TO THE FBI. THEY HAVE BETTER WAYS TO “FIND” THAN GEORGE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE
big HUG!!!!!!
c4c – I don’t see a post from you at 9:27
Sometimes posts with web addresses don’t show up. Can you take away the http thru www part and just post the rest? Thank you!
hey hi trying to find everyone
CA,
Not all evidence is released to the public until the trial is over. Not all discovery makes it into the trial. The state and the defense have a session on what should come in and what doesn’t come in to the trial. If necessary a judge is called in to decide if the discovery is brought in or omitted from the trial.
AWWWWWWWWWWWWW. (((((HUGGS)))))
SORRY SWEETIE-IS THE BEST I CAN DO. WISHED I COULD WRAP MY ARMS AROUND YOU.
can’t imagine if it was my own..I mean…that’s why I want so badly for those damned protesters to get on with their life and leave george alone…I can’t imagine how George is handling it..and C too ( but i feel her obstruction of justice has hardened me on her a bit)..but mostly George
yep I agree he is not going to be right….. probably he believes that every sighting was real and she was just moved before LE got there.
THE PROTESTERS HAVE “RV SYNDROM”
cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/17/george_anthony_talks_to_news_13.html did that one post.
I can’t believe how emotional I am today about all this…think it’s all catching up! Don’t have time for that stuff…and makes it too hard to blog…LOL
Thanks for hugs guys…
well i wonder how casey is feeling, with the no bond,no more freedom till she goes to trial,i am so happy for her
One thing that has always bothered me is why would someone put a bag with leftover pizza in their trunk? Wouldn’t most people leave leftover pizza inside the car, and just throw it away when they got out of their car?
The reason she put it in the trunk was to disquise the smell of Caylee’s decomposition.
hey mamabear better be careful u will bring the wrath of RV on u
flower,
You are so right.
on the RV wrath Cat?they can get testy for sure
that is what Padilla thinks. I wonder what else was in that bag besides pizza. Didn’t the tow guy so trash and he thought a pizza box?
how long before the trial for the murder 1 charge
I wonder what type of reading material M. is reading? It has been reported tht she reads from morning to night. Too bad she didn’t apply herself to her studies when she was in high school.
I think our best weapon against that is too ignore no matter what and nobody answer. THey do it because we ris up and they get to dominate the room. They are hungry for attention.
how come padilla knows so much,is he in touch with LE
since they haven’t requested a speedy trial it could be a while. six plus months or more…. maybe even year???? what do you think Cat
flower,
I would think the state would wait until the final moment before they show their hand to the defense.
Tim Millers update on website:
Texas EquuSearch is heading to North Carolina on Thursday, October 16 to begin searching for Kelly Morris in Stem, NC, Mouy Tang in Cleveland County, and Jamie Fraley and Jennifer Rivkin, both from Gastonia. The search for Kelly Morris has been ongoing with her family and friends, and will continue and hopefully get larger with the addition of Texas EquuSearch resources. It will be ongoing this weekend, and the need for volunteers is great.
The dates for the searches for Mouy Tang, Jamie Fraley and Jennifer Rivkin have not yet been set. Please continue to watch this site and local news for continuous updates.
Texas EquuSearch will be returning to Florida in the very near future to continue our search for Caylee Anthony and Jennifer Kesse. Future dates will be scheduled and announcements made in local media and here on our website.
Please continue to pray for all parties involved
i thought that was what baez wanted a speedy trial, now he is thinking LE has to much evidence on her and wants to drag it on forever so she will have longer to come up with a better story
what bb didn’t think about is he is going to have to find scientists to refute their scientists and that takes time and MONEY>
hey he has kobe
I AM SICK TO DEATH OF ALL THE LIES. THIS WILL NEVER END.
yep but if he is as decisive on the stand as he is on NG they are gonna need more than that.
BB can’t file any motions for a speedy trial he cannot represent M on a murder 1 charge. BB is not state qualified.
CAT–IF THEY PRODUCE A BODY WILL THIS GO SOMEWHAT FASTER?
he couldn’t even start the process since they haven’t said they were going to seek the death penalty? It is not just about death penalty is also about specific charge? Didn’t know that thought it was death penalty only
BB cannot even get any discovery from the state unless there is a lead attorney who meets the state requirements for representing M. on the murder 1 charge.
well you do u think is going to be her lawyer that what to remain anonymous
Wow so what about the court order the other day where they have 10 days to turn over that evidence????? no longer valid?
BUT IF LE PRODUCES A BODY, WILL THIS MOVE ALONG?
MAMA,
I would think that it would speed things up if Caylee’s body is found, but the state still needs to prove M. killed her.
i wonder how baez feels not being the head honcho?
cfc at 9:58 Thank you! That worked perfectly!
Not valid for murder 1 charges.
THANKS
very good m2c
Judge Strickland denied all BB’s motions that were tabled. Testing will proceed by the state that was the big one.
I’m sure he knew it was coming. He can represent her on the check fraud charges.
There is a great denfense lawyer in Tampa that may take the case. I will post his name later. I also heard BB mention Morgan from Miami.
that will probably happen before the murder charge gets to court.
flowerchild – At this point I think BB is probably as relieved as he can be. He can ride the coat tails of the lead attorney without having to take any blame! However, as Cat pointed out he will probably remain lead on the check fraud charges. And he’ll be leading her straight to jail. I don’t even see how that’s going to trial. It’s a slam dunk. I can only think that the prosecutors refused a request for a plea bargain (or offered 30 years instead of 60!)
An eye for an eye is Old Testament theological philosophy. Jesus repeated that statement but added a profound addition in that we should “Turn the other cheek” if the right hand offends us.
I find many words offensive in main stream media and throughout my walk in life listening to others.
My heart plus the evidence says Caylee (at an age of “no accountability” for her sins) is in the arms of the Savious, Jesus Christ our Lord in heaven. She walks on transparent streets of gold, communicates at the speed of thought, and now knows the “Secrets of the Universe”. She doesn’t have to vote, pay taxes, or subject herself to sin, despair, neglect, tears, sorrow, pain, and all other negative adjectives that are commonplace here on planet earth.
One hundred years from now, most all people of this earth will be either with Caylee Marie Anthony or with those that did not know Jesus Christ as their personal saviour.
My sorrow for how this case has proceeded is the blindness of which accusers have cast stones in glass houses they occupy.
Caylee, your peace that passes all understanding is envied by me. I pray that your Mother and other family members will repent theirs sins, and render unto Caesar what is Caesars, and unto the Lord what is the Lord’s. In this way, you can live together once again in the New Jerusalem forever and never remember what transpired on earth, once upon a time.
I thought I heard a date was set for the check charges. Really doesn’t make much difference she’s guilty, what’s to defend?
what I see as a problem…if i were an attorney is BB will have messed up so much I am not sure I would even touch it. you can do too much damage that cannot be undone. This case is tough no matter what. He isn’t helping
I THINK SO 2 M4C:
“At this point I think BB is probably as relieved as he can be. He can ride the coat tails of the lead attorney without having to take any blame!”
My sorrow for how this case has proceeded is the blindness of which accusers have cast stones in glass houses they occupy.
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you must be talking about M and how she has accused Zanny for kidnapping her child right!
CFC,
Exactly. Most defense lawyers don’t talk like BB. He has said he can prove she is not guilty. Big job for new attorney to acheive.
and the statments it will hurt my client to tell what she knows?
I wont give them what they need to lock her up for the rest of her life?
Our case will come out in court then you will all see and say I understand.
If this is just a misunderstanding tell the police.. duh
CA,
M. has brought so many innocent people into this case. Some may need to pay for attorneys to represent them at trial.
CFC,
That sounds like she told him what happened to Caylee. If she did he may need to excuse himself from the case.
you must be talking about M and how she has accused Zanny for kidnapping her child right!
Thou shall not Lie.
Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
The above 2 statements of the 10 commandments have been violated by most people walking on this planet, including myself.
When Caesar’s court convenes, I pray that reprobate minds defer to a heart that has a conscience. This may be the only way to overt a lie and let the truth set us free.
You don’t see the Count coming forward to represent M. Why?
SO TRUE, DR
DUH CAT. LMFAO. HE AINT THAT STUPID.
Conflict of interest. f he represents George and it seems like he steers more to him than to C. What will happen when they find the body. George is going to face reality… then count wold have to choose.
DO THINK HE IS THE LAWYER WHO IS WITH-HOLDING HIS NAME?
I thought that was a member of the Baez Law firm.
I don’t know how true this is but if it is i am very disappointed.
Anthony added they are disturbed by the fact the Sheriff’s Office shut down the tip line in mid-august.
who the count he is not taking on casey just for george and cindy i think
I DON’T MEMBER HIM OUT THERE FLAPPING HIS JAWS LIKE BB. SO FAR HE SEEMS TO HAVE A BETTER HEAD THEN BB. HE NOT INTO “SHOW-BOATING”
Dr,
M. broke more than the 2 commandments that you posted above.
We live in a mortal world with laws. M. broke quite a few laws, and must be judged guilty or not guilty by a jury of her peers.
DAK, PROBABLY IS TRUE. BUT BY THAT TIME THEY HAD ENOUGH TO SHUT DOWN THE TIP LINE. THEY WOULDN’T JUST LET A “KIDNAPPING” FADE OFF INTO THE WILD BLUE YONDER
On Tuesday October 28, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. Anthony will appear before Circuit Judge Stan Strickland for arraignment in the First Degree Murder Case.
She will return to court on November 5, 2008 at 9:00 a.m. for the child neglect and check fraud cases. Circuit Judge Stan Strickland will also handle that appearance.
Came from FOx orlando 35
To shut down a tip line before a body is found just because of evidence pointing to a person being dead is unacceptable.No wonder there are still so many missing children out there.
G. & C. can find another lawyer to represent them. The Count doesn’t want M’s case.
DAK, MEMBER—-THE FBI IS ALSO INVOLVED AND IF THEY THOUGHT CAYLEE WAS ALIVE THEN TEY WOULD KEEP GOING ALSO. IT IS VERY HARD FOR YOU TO GRASP THE “FACT” THAT THE FLUIDS WERE ON THAT BAG FROM THE TRUNK
Catherine said,in October 17th, 2008 at 10:46 am Dr,
M. broke more than the 2 commandments that you posted above.
We live in a mortal world with laws. M. broke quite a few laws, and must be judged guilty or not guilty by a jury of her peers.
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Yes, the Bible believes in man paying for man’s sins on earth, even to the point of surrendering your life (capital punishement) for taking the life of another.
I am not taking up for M, whether M confesses or not, any many of us have secrets that we will never confess to man, our sins will find us out eventually. For example, it took 13 years to the day for O.J. sins to find him out. I hope it doesn’t take that long for M, but only God knows as His ways are not our ways.
Dak – I’m “disappointed” that M did not have the cops open a tip line on June 15.
Cops can’t be blamed for closing tip line a month after a missing child was reported a month after she went missing. Do you have any idea how many false leads – many of them deliberate – they have? Try 5,000 for starters. And the cops and FBI have followed up on many of them.
The child neglect should go hand and hand when sheis tried for murder 1.
Catherine said,in October 17th, 2008 at 10:46 am Dr,
M. broke more than the 2 commandments that you posted above.
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Yes, the Bible believes in man paying for man’s sins on earth, even to the point of surrendering your life (capital punishement) for taking the life of another.
I am not taking up for M, whether M confesses or not, any many of us have secrets that we will never confess to man, our sins will find us out eventually. For example, it took 13 years to the day for O.J. sins to find him out. I hope it doesn’t take that long for M, but only God knows as His ways are not our ways.
DAK:
concernedforcaylee said,in October 17th, 2008 at 10:49 am
It doesn’t matter what the he!! LE found i still think its wrong to close a tip line until a body has been discovered. And if for some reason the Ants do find Caylee alive i hope they sue LE.
The child neglect should go hand and hand when she is tried for murder 1.
Dak – for pete’s sake. If anyone anywhere in the world thought they saw Caylee all they have to do is call their own police department who would help them identify the child they thought they saw and who would contact the Orlando police or FBI. You don’t have to have a specific tip line for heaven’s sake. Like no one would report a sighting because they don’t have a tip line? Get real!
MAMA what does that have do with anything.
Okay MTC thats not the point.
mytwocents,
I agree totally with your statement.
Okay then have the shut down the tip line for Jennifer Kesse.
Dak – There are thousands of missing children and persons. Their photos are out there. If any are seen they can be reported to the police, to a missing children’s organization, to lots of places that will help. I think it’s a stupid waste of time and money to have a specific tip line open 24/7 FOR YEARS for EVERY SINGLE missing child or adult.
If a person spots someone they think is missing there are plenty of places to go to call to email etc to get the word to people who can take it from there.
gotta run bbl
BABY BOY. IT MEANS THAT SHE “WILL” BE TRIED FOR MURDER. MURDER MEANS THAT OUR LITTLE CAYLEE HAS PASSED AWAY. I AM SO SORRY THAT U CAN’T COME TO TERMS WITH THAT. I WISHED I COULD GIVE U A HUG SWEETIE.
BYE C4C
Dr,
I too hope it doesn’t take 13 years for M. to be punished for what she did to her baby.
Her real punishment will come after she leaves this earth, and goes before God.
So let’s say there is a specific tip line for Jennifer Kesse. Don’t know if there is but let’s say so for now. Now let’s say I spot Caylee and I call Jennifer’s tip line. They’re going to hang up on me?
NO WAY C4C. THAT WOULD BE THE SAME # FOR CAYLEE AND THEY WILL CERTANLY KNOW WHO CAYLEE IS.
dak my question to you,how to you explain all the evidence against casey, all made up by unseen forces for what purpose,can you actually explain any of casey’s actions,as to the reason she has lied through out this hold process, to save her child,if she was so eager and upset to find her child she would be doing everything in her power to find her,which from 31 days or when ever this happen she has done nothing to cooperat
DO U UNDERSTAND M2C DAK?
THE LINES ARE THERE.
She is right Dak.
Old article but important knowledge that viewers may find interesting (those with children like Caylee or like myself, feel drawn into this discussion because of the heart).
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Tuesday, June 27, 2006
Belgian Children to be given electronic identity cards
Electronic identity cards for all children under 12 are to be introduced in Belgium. They will bear a code designed to allow parents of missing children to be traced instantly. The announcement came as Belgian police continued to search for two young girls who vanished from the street outside a bar in the middle of the night a fortnight ago.
WHEN MY SON DIED, I TOOK ALL MY GREAT-BABIES OUT IN THE YARD AND HAD THEM PICK A STAR AND TOLD THEM WHEN THEY WANTED TO BE CLOSE TO MY DEAD SON THEN THAT IS WHERE TO LOOK. DAK U NEED TO GO FIND A STAR FOR CAYLEE.
i say micro chip placed in baby’s head when first borned ,when i child reaches 18 then they can decide to have it remove,we do that for our animals,why not our precious children
At this point I am thinking that a fairly big name defense attorney will step in and defend M on the BIG ONE! And when that happens I want everyone who thinks poor little M has been mistreated to ask themselves how many truly poor and disadvantaged people (most of them not 22 year old reasonably attractive white females) have received free bail twice, free public relations representation, and free investigators. Time to stop feeling sorry for this accused criminal and worry about plenty of others who are far far more likely to be innocent but haven’t got the help they need to prove it.
Dak,
You have a problem with LE. They can’t do anything right in your eyes. If someone was breaking into your home would you call LE?
OH MY DR. THAT SOUNDS INTERESTING
morning ladies!! I just got a chance to get on the computer (I stand like a buzzard over anyone who is using it when i need it – we are down to one right now – it’s NOT pretty). I’ll be back as soon as I read things and catch up!
You guys can keep throwing all the evidence that was found in my face but I am not going to believe this child is dead until they find a body. The reason they haven’t yet is there is no body to find. All the predictions Padilla made about when the body would be found didn’t happen. So if Caylee is dead then Casey hid the body very well. Besides Orlando PD doesn’t have a very good reputation.
I thought that the idea of embedding electronic ID cards in children was a good idea until a friend said, “Yeah. The perp will just cut it out.” That kind of put me off the whole idea.
U ARE ALL – RIGHT ON AND STRAIGHT UP FRONT.
Dr,
Bravo to Belgium. The problem in the U.S.is some group would say it is a violation of their rights. I personally think a security code should be implanted into each child before they leave the hospital.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A BODY TO CONVICT ON MURDER CHARGES,LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE DAK THAT IS A BIG FLAG IT IS THE MAIN PART OF THIS CASE, BODY FLUIDS DO NOT LIE
OUCH M2C.
Dak – I think you should start saving some money so you can go over to the mortuary and stand next to C and G as they identify the body (IF they do – which I doubt even if it’s perfectly preserved). And then – in case there are no recognizable remains – save some more $ so you can have a forensic lab of YOUR choice re-test the DNA to your satisfaction.
And then another lab check the results of the first lab. I’m not sure that will do it for you but it’s as close as I think you’re ever going to get.
Yeah Catherine like the house they had a search warrant for and busted into the house a pointed a gun at the guys head and it wasn’t even him they were looking for, not to mention an infant in the house, and they used tear gas why, because the address they had what connected to a robbery by someone that didn’t live there. Why didn’t they just knock on the door. Now the guy is filing a complaint.
MTC I already told you if thet find her body and can prove its her then I will admit she is dead.
Dak – the first search happened right around a freakin’ hurricane that swept thru there. M didn’t have to hide it well. Just had to keep quiet about it long enough for the elements, gators, and hurricanes and just plain time to take care of it. Don’t give her too much credit and don’t underestimate those who are looking for Caylee either.
WELL, DAK. YOU STAY IN LA-LA LAND WITH C N G. I HAVE TRIED TO BE STRAIGHT AND UP FRONT WITH YOU AND I AM TRULY SORRY. I REALLY DO CARE ABOUT YOU AND THE WAY YOU FEEL BUT THIS TIME. AND I TRULY HOPE THE FIND OUR BABY GIRL. AND SHE IS “OUR” BABY GIRL AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN WITH SOMEBODY IN HER LIFE WHO DIDN’T USE HER AS A PON IN THE WORLD SHE WAS SHOVED INTO.
Dak,
Do you believe in the science of DNA testing?
DAK-DAK THE FLUID ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BAG WAS CAYLEE’S
With you, Dak, it will depend on WHO found her body (where and when) and who and how it is identified. Remember “science can be wrong” according to you and Koby! Why don’t you just wait until the trial is over and see if you agree with the verdict?
Besides how do we know that the evidence is really there maybe its a scare tactic to get Casey to say something.Just a theory.
DAK WHO WOULD YOU CALL IF U HAD A MISSING CHILD?
another point dak, cindy and george by their own statements acknowledge the fact a dead body was in the trunk of that car,if not caylee’s then whose body was it come on get realgo back and listen to the statement for gods sake
Actually MTC it isn’t just Koby that says DNA could be wrong.
DAK ARE YOU RELATED TO THE CASEYS?
MEANT ANTS
Dak,
You didn’t answer my question? Would you call LE if someone was breaking into your house or if someone kidnapped your child?
DAK ANSWER CAT.
Okay MTC read this article I found and tell me DNA can’t be wrong.
Various press reports released in early February make mention of a British case wherein a local police department confessed to having identified an innocent person as a criminal by a DNA test that was said to be in error. A U.K. police agency that had secured near 100 convictions on the basis of DNA testing, admitted that, as far back as April of 1999, they had matched a sample taken from the scene of a burglary to six loci on the DNA molecule of one of 700,000 persons whose DNA was collected in the national database. The suspect was a man with advanced Parkinson’s disease, who could not drive and could barely dress himself. He lived 200 miles from the site of the burglary. His blood sample had been taken when he was arrested, and then released, after hitting his daughter in a family dispute. He was arrested despite his protestations of innocence and alibi evidence that he was babysitting a sick daughter at home. Police dismissed these protestations stating that “it had to be him” since the DNA matched. The odds of the arrestee’s DNA being wrongly matched against that of the crime scene were said to be one in 37 million.
It is only when the suspect’s solicitor demanded a retest using additional markers, after the suspect had been in jail for months, that further testing was done. This testing, using a total of 10 loci, showed an exclusion at the additional four loci. The interpretation of the original test’s results, given by law enforcement officials, were proven to be inaccurate. The suspect was then released from custody. The new British ten-loci test, it is said, only “offers a one in one billion chance of a mismatch” according to Scotland’s Evening News of February 9, 2000!
DAK IS FIXING TO HANG UP THE PHONE
MAMA,
Don’t mean to laugh, but LMAO. Sorry, Dak.
Dakdude3 said, 11:16 am “Actually MTC it isn’t just Koby that says DNA could be wrong.”
I’ve heard of naysayers but never like this!
I give up Dak. I do not know why you participate in these discussions or we with you. I give up – yet again.
I hope a lesson to learn from the last few months of following this sad case of child neglect is, parenting skills, prayer, fear of God and not man, you know, THE TRUTH, are some of just a few things that are not taught at Harvard Business School or practiced. There was a time, before prayer left our school systems in the early 60’s, that even Harvard had an eye towards heaven. Not so now and without these skillsets, we send our children, not all, but many, into a world of ravenous wolves, of which many live in the homes our leaders of tomorrow sleep at each night.
There needs to be a grass roots movement across this nation and tell the liberal media and the “Big Bang Theorists, that separation of “Church from State” should never compromise spirituality.
the evidence came from the tooth fairy u guys she put it there for a scare tactic she scare poor casey into a confession, LALALand
MTC if you don’t why you have these discusions and keep say you’re giving up the give up and don’t respond to my post(DUH)
Dak,
Feb. of 2000?
DR, No disrespect, but are you Jesse Grund’s father?
Dak – I kept hoping you’d come to your senses. Possibly recognize one itty bitty piece of evidence. I am usually an optimistic person.
That’s why I kept trying. The solution to your problems seems so simple to me. But it’s like banging my head on a cement wall. So now I’m officially stopping. You give me a head ache – literally. Not a personal insult. It’s a fact. I have to go take some aspirin now.
beans – I hear ya!
fc – I too believe that in our modern society and technology, why can’t we improve the safety of our children with such a tracking device…yes..we put micro chips in our dogs…why hasn’t somebody made it possible to do the same with our precious children.
You know and i know how many children would be saved from abuse, on the run kidnapping non custodial parents, living in motels and not going to school, being sold on the black market and murder….
I wonder what the world wide number of missing and exploited children is…I would like to know how many of our unprotected babies are buried in a shallow grave or being brought to other countries where they’ll never escape!
Prob. about the same number of protected microchiped dogs and cats.
Most times in missing and exploited or abducted children, when the news hits the media, it’s already too late…LE is already behind the 8 ball. Keeping one step of the evil doers to our children is protecting them, not looking for them once they are long gone.
Dak,
Still waiting for the answer to my question?
whose dead body was it dak Jimmy Hoffa perhaps, the cat, the dog, who has caylee’s hair her body fluids,give me a clue, to who you think it is
like 31 one days long gone…c could have traced baby caylee long before and maybe caylee woudl be here
They do have GPS systems that you can use to locate your child.
YOU ARE RIGHT DAK. FOR THE FIRST TIME I SAY GIRLS—DAK IS RIGHT ON WITH HIS POST TO M2C
Dakdude3 said,in October 17th, 2008 at 11:21 am
BUT DAK I HAVE TO SAY THAT YOU ARE TALKING TO ME ALSO BECAUSE WE HAVE TRIED TO BE UNDERSTANDING TO YOUR NEEDS. DUH IS RIGHT. NO MORE RESPONCE FROM ME EITHER.
((((((HUGGS))))) FOR THE LAST TIME.
OH AND THAT MEANS THAT I HAVE HUNG UP THE PHONE ON U DAK
i guess people might find it immoral to place mrico chip in children heads,but what is more immoral is having children killed,kidnapped and anything horrible that might happen to a child
cat – how do they work and is it a permanently non removable device for the child?
Cat – I’ve heard of those. Some tie to the child’s shoe? Some are implanted?
It may still be a good idea just for little ones who wander off and get lost. That would be great.
I’m just saying that it might not help if they’ve been taken by an evil-doer and may not help when the evil-doer is a family member (who would know about the GPS). They’d get around it somehow and we know that a lot of evil-doers are family members or boyfriends etc.
MTC you are so contradictory of what you say. You have said to other bloggers that come on her the their opinons are welcome and all but you said: I do not know why you participate in these discussions or we with you. I give up – yet again. So that tells me you were not truthful about people being welcomeed here to express their opnion, or is it just if there opinion is similar to yours.
P.S.
I HAVE CALLER I.D.
whatever kind of gps, I am sure although same concept not the same idea as something that would be covered and not hundreds or thousands of dollars. A government funded option for parents with newborns.
It is not permanent. Example: The mother has a monitor and the child wear something with chip in it. Mother’s use them in shopping malls in Florida.
mtc – the shoe can be taken off even by the child..and would be useless..
mytwocents,
I agree, sadly.
cat – I meant on a perm.basis to protect all children of all walks of life ~ anykind of monitering device that is attached on the outside of the child or on clothing is removable and not of any use.
dak again,george the BODY inthe car is not my grandaughter,cindy maybe someone else put a DEAD BODY in the car,WHOSE
Dak – Pardon me for responding once again after I’ve said I’d quit but it’s important for you to understand that you are still welcome to state your opinion. I’m just not going to respond to it. I can’t deal with your perspective. I don’t even understand it.
And given your point of view – which to me seems that you disbelieve every statement and piece of evidence we’ve gotten so far – I really don’t know why you are blogging about it. There is nothing to blog about basically.
It seems to me that all you need to do is wait for the trial – watch it, decide what you want to believe (like a juror) and there you have it! But if you want to express your opinion now – fine!
Another reason reason for my skeptisism on DNA is in this article statement.
Via First Post, we find that the “inventor” of DNA fingerprinting is begining to question its reliability and abuse. It would seem that his complaint is more with the way it is being used than the science.
So if the the person who actually invented the process has doubts then so do I.
WELL SAID M2C. NOW HANG UP THE PHONE. LMFAO IN A BACKWARDS SORT OF WAY
Oh, and to Everyone! The other reason I’m not going to respond is because this person “takes over” the blog and we enable that by spending our time debating with a brick wall. I don’t want to spend my time doing that. You all can do what you want of course!
ok i quit trying to explain to dak in a backwards sort of way,no anwser on the whose dead body was in the back of the damn trunk
I DIDN’ KNOW THAT HANGING UP THE PHONE WAS SUCH A RELEIF. WOW
And here is the rest of the article.
As the inventor of DNA fingerprinting, Professor Sir Alec Jeffreys might be expected to do what most scientists do these days, and talk up the wonders of his research at every opportunity. But he has always fretted about its potential for abuse – and now he fears his invention is undergoing ‘mission creep’.
You can see his point. Since 2004 the police have had powers to take DNA from anyone arrested for any recordable offence, and keep it indefinitely, even if they are subsequently released. Even witnesses asked for DNA have no right to have it removed from the database once stored there.
All this bothers Prof Jeffreys, not least because the DNA could be put to far more sinister uses by governments even more overweening than the current lot. His concern is echoed by civil liberties groups, who talk of the UK being turned into a nation of suspects.
What should worry us all is a far more sinister characteristic of DNA evidence: its supposed infallibility. With its apparent ability to put odds of millions-to-one on the guilt of the accused, DNA evidence brooks no dissent.
Yet cock-ups can and have happened. Ask Raymond Easton, who was arrested in 1999 for a burglary in Bolton on the basis of a match from the DNA database. He suffered from Parkinson’s Disease so severe the police conceded he couldn’t possibly have been the culprit.
In 2004, a woman fingered by DNA as a murderer proved to be a rape victim whose DNA had ended up on clothing in an Australian forensic lab. Last year in the US, a man accused of a sex crime turned out to have received bone-marrow from the true culprit, thus giving him a similar DNA fingerprint.
Such cases show that the only sure thing about DNA is that more ‘fingerprinting’ means more cock-ups.
CA,
I did read that there is some testing on seniors who suffer from dementia, but I think it is in a trial stage.
do u guys think casey will confess now since the murder charges came up to save her ass from injection
FLOWER-CAT HAS CONVINCED ME THAT SHE WILL
Dak,
You don’t have a problem with LE or DNA. You have a problem with trust.
I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT SOME OF HER PICS. THOSE EYES STILL SAY IT ALL, TO ME.
I think she will plea down to manslaughter.
yeah the eyes are windows to the soul casey’s window is all fogged up
No I have a problem accusations and assumptions .
cat – that’s good at least it’s being tested! The mothers of our future will be able to let their children out to play again…
I am a man God, a retired Navy chief, father of 1 boy and 2 girls, and 4 grandcildren.
Been married 1 time going on 34 years. My desire should be everyone’s desire, to seek the truth, and as a U.S. Citizen, holding our leaders accountable.
Your forum is practible, intelligent, and incorporates thought provoking discussions.
We could replace congress and fix the economy right here. BZ
Wow! this is getting interesting.
some observations:
DAK – you consistently argue that exceptions should be the rule. while many things are possible – including faulty dna tests – you cannot construct reasonable arguments based on low-odds probabilities. it just kinda ruins your cred. and most of your postulations are based on things that have very low odds considering the actual evidence or just do not consider the actual evidence but your own feelings. All opinions are okay but solid arguments are based on facts and hair-splitting facts to get around them looks desperate. That is not working for the ants and they at least have an excuse.
re: kids ID’s – I agree in theory but also agree that current technology makes it dangerous (i have never liked those fingerprint ID thingies in the grocery store – you could always cut off a person’s finger and go in and use their credit card). I think they will have to create Kiddie Barcodes based on some kind of nanobot technology in which identifiers are put into the bloodstream and lodge in some organ or something.
A good attorney knows her life is in his hands. If he can save her from the death penalty he will do it.
LOL THANKS DR. FERSUR WE COULD. LOL
Mama – I just read all of that sextant nonsense from yesterday. If anyone ever says anything like that again to you you know where to tell them to put that sextant.
some people can just be mean and dumb in the same sentence!
OOOOOH BEANS–U GO GIRL
Dak, Everyone has a problem with accusations when they are false.
BEANS RV IS SOMETHING ELSO OK
someone just bombed a law firm thought it was baez,but it was in Atlanta, that would have been a hoot,just joking but a bomb was set off in a law firm
cecy and Mama –
Not to mention “you know who” who said this on October 16th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
“Who is the other harelipped bit#$?”
Me again: Not sure who that was aimed at although it followed a post of mine but it’s really nasty.
Using a birth defect that no one can help having to call people names. Really low.
Dr, Thank you. Welcome to our blog.
flowerchild: No one needs to at BB’s office. His team sets off their own bombs!
DR, what is your theory on the dead body statements made by geroge and cindy?
Hey Cecy I’m not here to establish creds. I am here to voice my opinions and thoughts.
DR. I AM VERY PROUD OF THE BLOGGERS HERE. THEY SURE HAVE TAUGHT ME LOTS OF STUFF THAT I HAD NO WAY OF KNOWING. I WENT FROM A PREACHER’S HOME INTO WASHING BABY BOTTLES AND DIRTY DIPPERS. I HAVE DYSLEXIA BUT WAS BEFORE MY TIME – THEREFORE I WAS CONCIDERED RETARDED. WHAT I HAVE LEARNED OF LIFE IS EXPERENCE-TRIAL N ERRA. BUT I MADE IT. RAISED 4 KIDS BY MYSELF AND HERE I AM – SOAKING UP KNOWEDGE FROM THERE SWEET THANG.
mytwocents,
I agree. Attack after attack is all this person does on this blog.
mama – RV is the opposite of his/her name. the postings sound like someone who can go from zero to sixty with their temper and are using a dictionary to make it sound good. don’t pay any attention whatsoever. just get out your flyswatter next time.
He/She told MAMA to take a boat to China.
M2C-HESHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE NEW GIRL. NOT YOU
And then use a sextant.
MAMA – well that was a “nice” welcome! I hope she comes back! That’s what I (we) are afraid of. Losing good bloggers because of the few who range from obnoxious juveniles to outright antagonistic a@@holes. (And I don’t mean you, Dak, pardon me talking to you again)
MEANT:
SOAKING UP KNOWEDGE FROM THESE SWEET THANGS.
mytwocents,
Do you think it is a woman?
dak – you are confusing opinions and thoughts with making stubborn arguments.
nobody minds when you voice an opinion. but you are constantly using certain facts – or the lack thereof – to argue with others as to why their own opinions are less than yours.
And you often do it in a way that appears critcal and negative, so you come across as unreasonable. It’s not your opinion that turns people off, it’s a self-righteous tone that does it.
Cat –
I don’t know and I don’t even care anymore. As far as I’m concerned he/she lost his/her creds on this blog a good while ago.
cecy,
Well said.
mama – there is a lot of evidence that people with dyslexia are very, very smart. some of the most successful people in the world have it. you are obviously the resident wise woman here and we all love your thoughts and your bear hugs!!
I couldn’t agree more. I just thought it was a man for some reason. I did read a post where he/she said you would always be “my” two cents then he wrote fondly.
what confuses me about dak is when u ask a direct question he never answers except in a backwards kind of way of the dna,not what i was asking about
cat – thanks. i’ve got my boxing gloves on today. this is not the forum for people who want to argue that the tooth fairy is real. and if they do, they’d better have a darned compelling argument is all I can say.
AWWWWWWWWW THANK YOU BEANS. MAKES ME WANNA CRY.
BUT WASN’T LIKE THAT IN THE OLDEN DAYS. I CRAWELED OUT OF A BIG WELL IN ORDER TO RAISE MY BABIES.
ABSOTLEY
flowerchild said,in October 17th, 2008 at 12:08 pm what confuses me about dak is when u ask a direct question he never answers except in a backwards kind of way of the dna,not what i was asking about
cecy, Look out Loretta! The boxing gloves are on. LMAO
Cecy you said:
nobody minds when you voice an opinion. but you are constantly using certain facts – or the lack thereof – to argue with others as to why their own opinions are less than yours.
And you often do it in a way that appears critcal and negative, so you come across as unreasonable. It’s not your opinion that turns people off, it’s a self-righteous tone that does it.
I did not ever say that anyones opnion was less than mine. Anything I have stated(fact or otherwise)is my explanation as to why I do not feel the same way as others do. So if you took it any other wat than that then that is not my fault, people are entitled to interpret things as they feel.And how the he!! can you say anything about a self-righteous tone when you can’t even express tones on here, so that is your opinion and if thats the way you feel sorry then just skip psat my post..
Mama – I know and your babies have surely all benefitted from how you showed them to overcome trials and tribulations. You cannot give children a better gift than an exammple of how to overcome adversity and still triumph.
Dak, Do you believe that M. is a stranger to the truth?
Here we go Round 1
No I don’t think M is a stranger to the truth. I’m sure in her own way there is some truth in what she says. Just because nobody knows what it is or can see it doesn’t mean that its not there.
Oh, in a backward sorta way?
DAK – the “tone” of any writing is in the choice of phrases and words used. you don’t have to come out and say someone’s opinion is less than yours – you can imply it from how you express yourself. i’m just saying you do and i don’t think i’m the only one that sees it that way. I
I am trying to be respectful by not completely ignoring you.
there is truth or lies…you can’t be kinda pregnant
I WOULD HATE TO HAVE TO TELL U HOW ONE OF MY BABIES TURNED OUT. A SAD STORY INDEED. BUT I GAVE IT MY BEST SHOT THEN GOT STABBED IN BACK. BUT FERSUR I DON’T HAVE THE CHICKEN WITH HEAD CUT OFF SYNDROM. I SAW IT FOR WHAT IT WAS.
Dak, Tell me one thing M. told the truth about?
Everybody believes what they want if you believe she will never tell the truth thats your belief, if you think she killed her child thats your belief. I have never tried to get anyone to believe Caylee is alive but you guys sure have tried awful hard to make me believe she is dead.
some truth in a pack of lies is a lie
Bomb was in Dalton GA. law firm.
Cat – I think for it to be a fair fight the contenders have to be equally matched.
Casey, THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE, says, but you just have to look through all my lies to find it
So Cecy explain to me how I have expressed myself to make you think that.
cecy,
Very true.
So somebody can’t tell a lie and be telling some part of the truth.
I don’t think anyone on here has ever tried to convince anyone baby is not alive…the discussions have been only about the overwhelming evidence that we know about which supports the idea.
GLAD MY PHONE IS TURNED OFF.
So then why is it that I feel otherwise you guys all hammer me about it like I’m some kind monster.
Dak,
No a lie is a lie. The truth is the truth. You can’t tell someone 50% truth and 50% lies and then call it what? The truth in a backward sorta way.
Everybody says Casey isn’t telling the truth and everything she says is a lie. She says she doesn’t know where Caylee is, maybe she doesn’t and nobody can prove that as a lie.
yes they prob. can be telling some part of the truth but the intent is to lie…the small part of any truth that comes out of m/’s mouth is to justify her lies to herself in that she is telling the truth…in a backwards sorta way.hah!
There’s a mouthfull
ABSOLUTLY CAT
When you put your hand on the bible and swear to tell the truth the WHOLE truth and nothing but the truth you don’t mix a lie or two into the truth, then it is not the truth.
nobody can prove she isn’t lying that she doesn’t know where baby is at this point cause she doesn’t know for a “truth” that animals havent dug her up and dispersed remains…so in her mind she is still telling the truth…bottom line…
she DOES know what happened to her. Period!
Nice Fantasy world you live in Catherine. if everybody in the world thought that way we would be in trouble.
AMEN
nobody said you are a monster dak,you feel otherwise,but when someone ask you a question you kind of skim over it and go back to the dna theory and it is all wrong ok we got the point on your opinon on that ,but when i ask you about the dead body statements and whose body you thought was in the car you just passed it by to still argue over the dna,
You see Caylee~angel you are assuming she knows where Caylee is but you can’t prove it.
Okay Flower what is it that you want to know.
dak – i did not say once I am assuming she knows where she is…re-read…I said she still thinks she is telling the truth by saying she doesn’t cause the truth is she doesn’t know in reality cause animals might have gotten to her…but she does know what happened is what I said.
IN MY HEART OF HEARTS, FROM ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT HAS COME OUT, I HOPE THAT CASEY ANTHONY IS PUT IN A VERY SMALL CELL TO THINK ABOUT ALL THIS. IN A BACKWARDS SORT OF WAY IT WILL BE LIKE IN A TIME OUT FOR KIDS
I said she knows what happened and in my mind she is responsible for whatever happened to caylee, as her mother she is supposed to protect and is also responsible for her well being. She didn’t do that.
Dak, What does that mean? I live in the real world. Why would the world be in trouble if they thought the way i think? You don’t make any sense. And your world is????????
Caylee is dead she was in the back of casey’s car,that is where caylee is,so how come casey doesn’t know where she is,was she high and forgot she killed her child,does she have automatic amnesia,is she crazy,she forgot where she left her child, LIELIE, geez and all the stories she has made up to tell the truth
I DO THANK THE LORD ABOVE THAT THIS NOT THE JURY, FOR THIS CASE, HERE THIS MORNING.
Well, Dak, when the overwhelming majority of the general public, LE, the media (and even people representing the defense) have come to the conclusion that the odds of this child being alive at this point are slim to none – barring a massive miracle – and when all available scientific evidence points to that likelihood and not any other reasonable scenario – and when you are on a blog with people who overwhelmingly accept that but you disagree, you are going to need to back up your opinion with credibility – since it is certainly not mainstream at this point – with something other than arguing in a style that says matter does not appear to be solid.
you can certainly choose to believe this child is alive, everyone on here would like to agree, but when you argue as to why she is, it has to be constructed less subjectively and more objectively. You are trying to convince everyone you are correct or that your opinion has merit by constantly shooting holes in what has been accepted as relatively reliable. Not a good strategy. You argue that facts are not true by finding small exceptions – with dna, with le – and use them to back your opinion. You try to get people to defend their own opinions by shooting them down so do not tell me you are trying to convince them your opinion is better – your words show otherwise.
Caylee is with jesus that is the truth Dak.
Now, her remains can be anywhere at this point in time. Have faith she will be found.
MAMA.
We would have to tell the judge to wheel in the alternate, we have an uncooperative juror.
never mind dak it already went over ur head, it was in that above post i just sent u, so forget it
oh, and Dak – when somebody disagrees with you, you get touchy and criticize them in a personal way, ie:
“Nice Fantasy world you live in Catherine. if everybody in the world thought that way we would be in trouble.”
Yes, Dak that was a personal attack. Not very nice.
of course everyone would love it and rejoice if caylee was alive,but we are not blind to the facts either
MAMA,
You enjoying that trip to China?
can we agree on a collective TKO – i’m getting bored with this line of thought.
LO CAT. YUP
Dak, You live in Florida have you assisted the Ant’s with their search for Caylee? Have you donated to their fund?
right cecybeans,i say down for the count
TKO?
well, I think we know who can replace Todd Black when he gets canned…
I sent two checks to Equusearch, and I may send another one. Tim deserves every penny I can afford to send him and his organization.
SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A STUDENT IN HERE FOR A DEFENCE ATT.
TKO Cecy
A DEFENCE ATT. STUDENT
WHAT IS TKO?
Cecy,
LMAO Now that is good.
Technical KNOCKOUT boxing lingo mama
Technical Knock Out
First of all Cecy i am not arguing i am just voicing my opinion. People are always asking me what makes me believe caylee is alive and not dead based on evidence. But when i provdide things that make me believe that(my doubts) with the articles and statements that I find and post people say I ma arguing.If you don’t want to see that then stop asking me why I feel the way I do.
M. has to get up at 4 A:M: for breakfast. I wonder how she likes that?
Cat – right on! I think we should petition NG to have Tim on every day – give him Kobe’s old spots. That guy needs to go!
She always has missing children info and also pays respects to soldiers who’ve been killed – some of the reasons I put up with her show some nights. Tim would be a perfect regular and it would help with donations to keep him in the spotlight.
Round 2
cat – that is hilarious…where did you find that infor/….lmao
First of all Catherine I can’t help search and I am having financial problem. I have $60000 dollars in debt.
TKO — THANKS.
HMMM GIRLS. I HAVE NOT SEEN DAK POST A URL TO THE PROOF.
Proof for what Mama
You can go on to orange couty public record and even see the menu the inmates are served. Yesterday, she had grits for breakfast, and BEEF-A-RONI for dinner. I had to ask somebody what the hell was BEEF-A-RONI.
Bri told me it’s made by Chef Boy-r-dee
no pizza awwwwwwwww
Dak, Can you set up a tip line in your house for Caylee sightings?
LOL. I DIDN’T KNOW THAT CAT. NEAT. CAN U POST THE URL TO THE MENU. I GET MEALS ON WHEELS AND GET A MONTHLY MENU. THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING
what the hell is beefaroni…cat…that’s good! As a teen, I go out partying and come home really late, starving and tired and not interested in “cooking” anything..I’d open that can of beefaroni ( which my sweet mother bought me a case of caused I loved it so much ) and ate it cold right outta da can!
Grits.??? bet she was not impressed…but 4am thats nuts.
do they allow her to sleep in pc whenever she wants or do they cattle prod her….I would like that job…lOL
Catherine give it up. Why don’t you set up a tip line. and go search.
I can try. If I can paste it, I will give you the web site.
DID U GUYS GET MY EMAIL ADDY?
well must go had a lovely time talking to everyone,have to go to work see u guys later bye
BYE-BYE FLOWER
Dak – Websters defines an opinion as a word that implies a conclusion thought out but that is open to dispute.
To argue is to
– give reasons for or against something : reason
– contend or disagree in words : dispute
– give evidence of
– to consider the pros and cons of
– to prove or try to prove by giving reasons
– to persuade by giving reasons
You are not simply voicing your opinion you are clearly arguing as well. If you are going to argue your opinion – and you are – then you have to be prepared for others to argue with you. If you can’t take the heat….
Dak,
I work outside my home first of all. Second, any tipster should call LE, like everyone else does. Third, I believe Caylee is dead.
I send checks, because that is what Tim asked for, and I believe in his cause.
COLE WAS KIDNAPPED BECAUSE OF DRUG MONEY
bye, flower
MAMA, Is that the breaking news they are going to report on?
Once again Cecy if you believe i was arguing that is your opinion but I was just stating my opinion.
YES. THEY HAVE A SUSPECT. NOT ARRESTED THO
And also Cey why is that anything I say against the evidence and say i believe Caylle is alive I am arguing. If I say I believe caylee is alive that is not arguing its stating an opinion.
I hate druggies, and I really hate drug dealers. Selling drugs at schools should land those dealers in jail for life with no parole.
IS MILLIONS IN DRUG MONEY
Dak, We just agree to disagree about Caylee. Let’s drop it and move on. It’s getting boring.
Cat – unfortunately that child is getting three squares a day which is more than many americans are right now. I’m sure a lot of people would be perfectly happy to have grits and beefaroni. I just wish she didn’t have all day to lounge around and read. that is my fantasy life!
Its dropped Catherine
What’s really horrible is that even a family with drug dealing ties would instantly report their child being kidnapped and not worry about repercussions to themselves. says a lot.
HEY KIDS. I GOTTA GO AND LAY DOWN. SLEEPING DISORDER HAS KICKED IN, CAT PLEASE HANG ON TO THAT URL FOR THE MENU TIL LATER.
LU GUYS
(((((HUGGS)))))
Have been off the discussion on an important phone call from my brother.
Question to all:
Do you think Casey, not judging mind you, has a conscience outside herself in the direction of her daughter based on current evidence (of course not presented in court yet, but leaked)?
We are known by our fruits, our works, on earth by God. As a fruit inspector and not a judge, I see very little evidence of the fruits of the spirit as indicated in Galations 5:22-23 (love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, and temperance).
When we go a long time in conflict, as was indicated of the battles inside the Anthony household, the last thing that might have been brought up would be “What would Jesus do or say”.
There needs to be some “tough love” exercised here and just like George didn’t want to testify against his own daughter, he was much in favor of the truth rather than be a prisoner to a lie and the consequences thereof.
Summation: Casey’s mind has justified that her actions, right or wrong, right now, must follow a path of silence for self preservation’s sake.
Have you ever asked yourself “How many people who are incarcerated feel they were still innocent even with overwhelming evidence to the contrary”.
Samuel Gross, a University of Michigan law professor, has calculated that 2.3 percent of all prisoners sentenced to death between 1973 and 1989 have been exonerated and freed.
There are 2.2 million prisoners in the U.S. With this large a number, including overzealous prosecutors, corrupt LE, there are people locked up that should be free, if the TRUTH is known.
Having said that, the majority of prisoners are there because they did commit the crime due to a preponderance of the evidence presented in a court of law judged by a jury of their peers.
Our judicial system is not perfect but it is one of the best on the planet. I am confident a fair trial for Casey will prevail, but I am not convinced the whole truth will be known unless Caylee is found.
As for Cindy and George, knowing blood is thicker than water, I really am praying for you sincerely that in your heart, search for a real truth, and then read Galations 5:22-23. What proceeds verse 22 is 21 which states the works of the flesh: Envyings, murders, drunkeness, and revellings. For those that do these things SHALL not inherit the kingdom of God.
cecy,
i know. China gives inmates bread or riceballs with water if there lucky. No T.V. no workout room, no library, no baths, soaps, toothpaste, or commissary to buy chewing gum.
huggs mama!! sweet dreams!
bye MAMA
yeah, and they get caned.
DR – I think Cindy feels somewhat responsible because she enabled her daughter’s behavior for many years. It sounds like a very dysfunctional, symbiotic relationship.
It’s an example and a lesson for us all.
Dr, To answer your question, no I do not feel Casey has a conscience. Never once did I see one tear for Caylee from Casey. Even in jail she stated to her friend Kristina ” that’s all everyone cares about is Caylee” I think she is an empty shell of a human being who is not capable of feeling anything for anyone except herself and her desires.
Dr, What is your opinion about Casey’s behavior.
That little boy was taken by Mexican drug cartels. They said, the grandfather was involved with drugs.
I cannot judge a person for simply being a sociopath because we still don’t know what might cause it – environmental or physical.
But even if some people don’t have a conscience or the ability to care about others they are certainly accountable for their actions and behavior. To insist on anything less is not fair to them or to society.
I think Cindy made excuses for and bailed Casey out of things she should have had consquences for doing. She may have done it out of denial or exhaustion, I don’t know. But I think it certainly ended up helping to contribute to this whole sorry mess.
That little boy is another sad example of families doing things that not only endanger themselves but innocent members of their family.
I wish we could protect little kids better.
cecybeans,
I totally agree. Many parents who love their children (most inherently do), would die, lie, steal and protect within reason.
LIE 1.A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood. 2.Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.
With that definition presented, Cindy giving the impression that others are responsible for her granddaughter borders on a false witness, deceitful, and hinders the investigation (i.e. smells like a dead body and later smells like rotten pizza).
Catherine! I burst out laughing and all I could think of when I read Dak’s comment to you was “Boomerang! Right back atcha!”
He must have been looking in the mirror when he wrote at 12:26 ” Nice Fantasy world you live in. . . if everybody in the world thought that way we would be in trouble.”
In his fantasy world the jails would be empty and the innocent public would be subject daily to tens of thousands of repeated robberies, rapes, murders and worse every day on the open street! Because chances are – in that fantasy world, anyway – the perps are innocent!” LOL!
Cat at 12:08 Yes and that gave me the heeby jeeby creeps big time.
M2C – you are too funny!
When my daughter was a teenager and she came home with some crazy story blaming her teacher for something, I never said I believed her or didnt. I told her that she might be innocent but that she needed to manage the perception because there had to be a reason her teacher might believe she was not.
I also told her that prisons are full of people who insist they are innocent victims.
kids need to learn responsibility for their actions. we are living in a world where parents do kids homework for them and clean up all of their messes and they end up spoiled, feeling entitled and without the skills to make it on their own. it makes me nuts.
MAMABEAR at 12:32 – I’m afraid that even now let alone when M is put away for many years she will blame it all on Caylee and her parents and maybe her brother and certainly the cops and Amy for sure. She’ll have a list a mile long of people to blame. Padilla and Tim and all of LE and the media etc etc etc. The very last person – in fact the main one who will NOT be on the list to blame is herself.
M2C-TO – amen to that!
today’s Orlando Sentinel web page has a link to Todd Black’s latest press release (which looks like it was done with crayons) that says:
Todd Black said in today’s news release that he “has never said that Caylee Anthony is deceased, and those who were professional enough to obtain the October 14th interview, in its entirety, reported fairly and truthfully. The rest of the media must have been drinking too much Palmetto Bug Punch.”
Palmetto Bug Punch – is that the best he can do to counterract the Casey Koolaid line? This guy is committing career suicide!
HI EVERYONE
HAVENT BEEN ON SINCE THE GOODNEWS ON TUESDAY! HOPE THOSE JAILBIRDS ARE LOOKING AFTER MISS ANTHONY GIVING HER THAT ATTENTION SHE LOVES!
HAVE READ LOTS OF BLOGGS,
CAN I ASK DAKDUDE3 WHAT excactly do you think has happened to caylee?
where did everyone go?
HELLO HELLO IS THERE ANYBODY IN THERE?? KNOCK IF YOU CAN HEAR ME IS THERE ANYONE HOME…MY INTR0N3T PROBLEMS ARE NO LONGER AND I AM BAAACK…HELLO HELLO…
I see gumshoe and Caylee-angel and Mytwocents and Reasonablevoice, wheres my darlin Therapist????? GUMSHOE!!! Im back for good…
BUeno where is everyone???
Looks like everyone moved to the brand new article that Jan posted today. It is article number 118209
Title: Caylee Anthony: Is She Alive As Family Says Or Are They in Denial
Im there Mytwocents…(OG)
bloggernews.net/118209
Caylee Anthony, Is She Alive
Oct. 17
Jan Barrett
http://www.bloggernews.net/118209
Gumshoe….there you are…. want some blueburries as my daughter would say..she says burries..its sooo cute..
Dear Heavenly Father We come to you tonight. Overwhelmed, confused and very weary. We ask that you give us each the strength to stay the course for Justice for Caylee. Give us the wisdom to temper judgement with facts, Give us the patience to see this through to the end. We want you to watch over all the missing children in the world, Calm them when they are afraid, help guide searchers to bring them home, and those who come to be with you hold them close and let them know that there are many, many many people here who will always love them. Help each of us to carry on the fight whether we are family, friends, Law enforcement, searchers,Friends who have come to know these special missing angels by their faces and their stories. We pray tonight for little Cole and for beautiful Caylee. We pray that you help us bring our beautiful Caylee Marie Anthony home so she can be laid to rest with the grace dignity and honor she deserves. We pray these things in Jesus Name. AMEN>
Dear Heaavenly Father, We come to you again with a simple request tonight. Please watch over the missing children. Help their families to have hope, and to look to you for support. Help each and everyone of us to keep focused on the goal, which is bringing home the missing children. Also Lord we want to continue to ask your strength and guidance as we look to find and bring our beautiful Caylee Marie Anthony home. As the days drag on with no information it is hard not to be overwhelmed, give us the strength and courage to stand strong for our angel. We will not give up hope. Lord you know what we each need as we face another day without the answers to where Caylee is, so please be with the searchers as they look to bring her home, help law enforcement as they work to bring the responsible one to justice, be with the witnesses who have to testify to the horrific, be with all the people of the world who have come to know and love Caylee, and be with the family of Caylee too. Even if we don’t understand their actions all the time we do know that Caylee loved them and would want them to be o.k. We have so many questions Lord about what and why this horrible thing had to happen to Caylee. Even as we look for answers give us the wisdom to hold out for the truth, and to accept the answers that are revealed. Also Lord we pray that you take what has happened to Caylee and let her forever live in all our hearts so maybe we can change the life of a child near to us. We also still pray and wait for the day we bring our Beautiful Caylee Marie Anthony home to be buried and given the grace, dignity and honor she deserves. All these things we pray in Jesus Name. AMen.
I knew Jose Baez back when he was studying at Barry University and he was a great, honest man. He truly believed in the American’s Right to a Fair Trial. Although, I personally believe that Casey killed her daughter, she still has the right to a fair trial and that is what Jose believed in. I don’t think that he is trying to make a name for himself because I don’t think he is making much money from this case, but the people who know and knew Jose can testify what a great person he is.
Baez graduated from a Bottom Tier Law School:
St. Thomas University (Ranked 182nd in a field of 185 law schools).
To wit, the LSAT score of the ‘brightest’ student in Baez’s class would fail to ‘make the cut’ at some 151 of the 185 law schools ranked by the Internet Legal Research Group.
It is interesting to note that Baez makes no mention of his less-than-distinguished alma mater on his website.
(To acknowledge such a thing would no doubt take the ‘shine’ right off of the ridiculous faux ‘coat of arms’ he has chosen for his one-man firm)
To be fair, I am willing to believe that Baez’s alma mater has produced some fine lawyers, however, it is clear that Baez is not one of them.
Indeed, until I witnessed Baez in action, I had assumed that there was no such thing as an inarticulate lawyer.
Regardless of whether Baez is speaking or writing, he appears to have the vocabulary of the average 12 year-old, but without benefit of the average 12 year-old’s understanding of grammar!
Worse still, Baez looks at least as uncertain, hesitant, inexperienced & uneducated as a nervous 2nd year law student appearing in a court of law for the first time as a volunteer with their school’s legal clinic.
(Crying, “Not fair!” in the course of a court proceeding is proof that Baez is not only woefully uneducated and unprofessional, but so lacking in basic intelligence that ‘common sense’ can elude him – even the most casual TV viewers, deluged as they are in ‘Law & Order’ reruns and ads for Court TV, could probably surmise that this particular childhood refrain has no place
in a court of law!)
The fact that 8 years elapsed between the time Baez finished law school and the date he first wrote the bar exam is not the only curious aspect of his dubious standing as a lawyer.
The fact that he has misrepresented his legal experience by listing the outcomes of cases he was involved with AS A STUDENT with his school’s legal clinic (where a student’s work is closely supervised by review counsel, and often involves little more than putting on a suit and observing experienced lawyers ‘do their thing’) is beneath contempt.
If such deceit is not grounds for disbarment in Florida, it ought to be!
Alas, the sooner Baez can be marginalized in this case (for example, via court appointed counsel), the better.
Indeed, it would be a terrible miscarriage of justice to allow the monstrous Casey Anthony to avail herself of the patently foreseeable ‘ineffective counsel’ claims that lie in almost every move that Baez makes (e.g. hiring incompetent, fly-by-night PR ‘firm’ that undermines his client on CNN) or fails to make (e.g. motion for speedy trial).
Give it up Baez! Even lowly St. Thomas law school grads are smart enough to see right through YOU and that tacky ‘coat of arms’ you lifted from the internet! (Apparently, your grasp of IP law is even weaker than your ‘knowledge’ of criminal law & procedure!)
A Law Student (3L), did you seriously write “to wit”?
Also, isn’t it “gaffes”, not “gaffs”?
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