Ahhhhhhh-mazing.
Another way to keep her precious name in the media.
Another way for Misty to play victim…
To go on national television with those puppy dog eyes to say, “I was just hanging out, I didn’t know we were going there to buy drugs”!

Whateverrrr.

I wonder who Mistys lawyer is going to say lead her to be present with friends that are purchasing illegal drugs? I read that Misty told her father that even one of them had a gun and yet she said she chased the robber. Misty must be pretty courageous. Just when I was beginning to feel a little sympathy for this 17 year old girl. Misty does what Misty wants! This is Mistys enviroment and she must not want to change it! Just think this is who Ron left his children with!

I read that Misty is the one that stayed in the car. Was jerked out of car by robber & knocked around and was treated for injuries. I also did not read that Misty chased robber. Where are you getting your info?? Are you really looking for justice?? Thanks, Treece

Art Harris. com Interview with Hank Croslin sr.
I am not blaming Misty for getting robbed. It is where she was and what was being purchased. Although, she herself was not the one going to the door to score, I do not believe she did not know why they were there.

I meant to say she knew why they were there. Yes, I am looking for Justice. Whoever it may be. This girl is not that innocent and she was apart of Haleighs everyday enviroment.

You are right just here post 9:31a.m. Le uses that info to their advantage. My uncle and two cousins were Sheriffs in St. Johns County. My uncle has passed due to leukemia. My one cousin is now retired, but he made captain and my other cousin is now a clergyman.

I also have no idea if Misty is guilt or not, I’m just saying that apparently she either doesn’t know how much trouble she could be in or she doesn’t care. I also believe that if LE had a leg to stand on they would take this opportunity to arrest her. So when you get down to it there is a lot going on that people like us have no clue.

Looking for Justice: your right on the 9:43 post. It’s amazing how much info you can get out of the one that doesn’t want to go to jail.

Just here you are right again. We do not know exactly everything LE has. I saw a clip on you tube of Rons lawyer, Mr. Shoemaker stating the NPO was to pay for a PI to look closer at Crystals side of the family. I believe look into everyone they can to find Haleigh, but it struck me kind of odd that Misty also pointed fingers to that side of the family as well on the early show. All of this coming out from both Misty and Ron while they are divorcing and must say that divorce was finalized in record time. I just wonder if they came up with this together to point fingers in an alternate direction.
Fact is LE knows more than we do.
Treece, I feel Tim does feel for Mistys safety and it may not have been so tactful, but it was all in the interest of finding Haleigh. This is what we all want no matter what avenues we have to explore.

I don’t think LE in Putnam County have a clue.

And now, in neighboring Clay County, a little 7-year-old girl is missing and they say they are baffled. Well – how about if LE in Clay Co. had made PUBLIC the fact that an abduction attempt had occurred only ONE WEEK EARLIER on THE NEXT STREET OVER from where little Somer disappeared?? How about if they had the SENSE to let the ELEMENTARY SCHOOL in the neighborhood know, and ALL PARENTS?? Maybe, just maybe, Somer wouldn’t be missing now!!!!!

Misty keeps going back to the same company, the drugies. I still think Drugs have someting to do with Haleighs disapearance.

Stop the abuse and murder of the children in the U.S.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/16/stop-the-abuse-and-murder-of-the-children-in-the-us

treece, tell me why this girl misty is allowed to break the law right in front of the cops and not get arrested as a seventeen year old. Kids over here in our area get in trouble for smoking, drinking, skipping school, curfews, and driving without a license. It seems this girl is allowed to do whatever she wants. What the hell is wrong with the state of Florida? She acts like she is queen or something. Both her parents should be in jail for her not attending school. She should be placed in a foster home and not wonder the streets at the age of 17.

The police already know if this is a “drug house” or not. I believe that Misty knew right where they were all going. If both purses were “stolen”, I wonder what was in the other purse that was so important as to chase the thief? Maybe this really wasn’t so much a robbery, but an opportunity to silence Misty. You know, keep your mouth shut about such & such or else. How exactly were the police involved? I mean it seems odd to contact LE to report your purse being stolen while you are at a drug house. Any one else feel that way?

Crazy, It’s not just her. everyone there are smoking,drinking,skipping school,driving without a license, don’t have curfews.

Florida has some major issues indeed. I think someone needs to step in, in Florida altogether.

People in Florida seem to be allowed to do anything. Including kill their own child and have attorneys who just jumped out of a fruit loop box.

The system in Florida has to be fixed before anything else will fall into place.

Hey, I work for the State of Florida and,
You are so Right!!!
Here are my thoughts of Misty Croslin,
I am not stating she is guilty or innocent of anything at this date in time we do not have all of the evidence to do that. BUT,
IMO, Just my 23 years of being a shrink kicking in.
She is a street-smart 17-year-old girl who had to grow up that way to survive in the environment she grew up in. She may have learned early on to play the innocent, uneducated, victim when she was in trouble. It was the best way for her get through a situation she may have been faced with as a child. I think she is very smart, not book smart, but people smart. I believed she truly loves all children and probably like most people with challenging childhoods, relates to them well because she has not matured to an adult level. I also believe that she is a chameleon, she adapts to her surroundings superbly. She can portray anything she things you want to see. She wants to please people. She may, like all immature children, has a selfish side to her that can cause her to become enraged when she feels she has been treated unfairly. (Real or imaginative.) Her underlying anger toward the challenging live has had, will cause her to act out violently to even the people she loves very dearly. She will clam up when she knows she is cornered. She may often become a victim to people who are mental and physically stronger then her. In Day to day interactions, I believe she is a care free easy going 17 year old. Who loves attention and companionship at any cost.

And listen to this IRONY — I used to live in Jacksonville, working at home. Every few days or so, a police helicopter would show up circling around overhead. I saw one of Duval County’s finest outside one day and asked what was going on, as I thought some major criminal/murderer was on the loose. No, as it turns out, they had a police helicopter (imagine the expense) out there looking for a couple of kids who were SKIPPING SCHOOL!!! This is no joke! I was incredulous, and asked WHY?? The reply was — they figure that kids skipping school were up to no good and would be getting into trouble. I am not making this up.

Lawshrink, that sounds very probable.

Misty was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I don’t believe Misty was given a message, that is funny.

I think it was for money purposes. She choose a chatty friend, that is also amusing. Where is her cell phone?

Why didn’t they call for help from their cell phones instead of driving away leaving the third person? Was the third person inside making the deal?

All I can say is they (misty and ron) are doing a hell of a good job of mixing things up and keeping LE’s head spinning like crazy. The blind leading the blind kind of thing. I see people get arrested on cops for giving false information or with holding information. An exception for this couple I guess. So all you have to do when you murder someone is to hide the body where it will never be found, and answer to the cops “I don’t know” and you will never be prosecuted? Even though you were the last to be seen with that person. No wonder there are so many murders now a days its so easy to get away with it.

Crazy, Very Sad But True. 🙁

If Misty and Ronald are able to mix things up and keep PCLE heads spinning, what could someone of just average intelligence do to them?

This is absolutely crazy, and should have been solved a long time ago. If LE knew so much more, why no arrests? I don’t think they know anything more than what’s already been brought out. And I also think that if there weren’t people who cared about her blogging about this, that Haleigh Cummings would now just be a fading memory.

Not sure who is purchasing it for her.

They replace my cell if it is stolen or breaks or I would run over it, but I carry insurance on it for 5.00 a month. But I would still half to show some ID that it is me getting the replacement.

LawShrink: that is a very good point. the behavior of those involved is so bizarre, how do you get through to them?

working1 – You said, “I also think that if there weren’t people who cared about her blogging about this, that Haleigh Cummings would now just be a fading memory.”
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I agree. And we should ask why? Incompetent, shoddy police work from the start? (Yes IMO).
A “conspiracy of silence?” (Possibly). Someone in a position of power (behind the scenes perhaps) helping to hide what really happened?
(Also possible IMO)

I think they need to get a cold case expert/profiler to “help” PCSO now – not later – someone who can see through all the bizarre behavior/diversionary tactics while everyone is still around (although they’ll all probably still be there 20 years from now).

8 months, no leads, no arrests, no nothing – that’s a cold case, isn’t it?

m2c you have good points and good questions. I partly understand that “way of life” mentality. I have relatives that live it and it does go generation to generation. Just as my son’s were taught to never get behind a wheel of an auto. without having proper license and auto ins. They always had responsibilities. I have niece’s that never worried about it. They live in a podunk county. Their mom is on probation for drugs and has driven them to school with no license or insurance all their life. They just look at it like it is something they can’t afford and go right on. IT doesn’t seem to register there with any of them until something really bad happens and then it all caves in on them. These kids do develop a survival mentality that they become very good at, they had to. It was either cave in, become a mental vegetable or learn how to make it. It is so wrong but so true that they really don’t comprehend the other way to live. Sad!

Yes, and I can say with a broken heart, all of them have. 🙁

m2c i have thought some of the same things myself. Thanks for posting it out loud.

How sickening – and if you went back there and pointed out how many lives were destroyed because of their decision to parole, they would not care – not at all.

I heard the other day that “Law and Order” was going to do a show based on the wrong-way drunk driver — too bad “Criminal Minds” couldn’t do Haleigh’s story. Sounds silly, but I bet with the FBI consultants and profilers they have to work with on the show, they could solve this case.

They sickest thing they would say to me was ”they have their rights” that uses to really make me upset. What about the Victims rights???

LawShrink, I am thrilled you are in that position. I am sure you are great with those kids. I am also sure you have to hear alot of painful things, thank you for doing that. I admire you but I don’t know if I could do it. I am sure it is hard to sleep sometimes.

Working1, you are so right! It sometimes seems as though the perps have more rights than the victim. Really bizarre!
I love Criminal Minds as well. It is all based on Quantico behavioral analysis.
LAWSHRINK, I am glad you found a place to better serve the victims. I also live in Florida. Volusia county.

LawShrink: Yes that makes me sick too. I think the problem is that the public has not vehemently condemned sexual offences enough – raised them to the level of as serious as murder for example. We don’t give enough consideration to the damage that is done to the victim. AND there is NO consideration given to future victims. In other words, we don’t really value our children enough. At least that’s what the law seems to reflect.
BTW – If ever we were going to have longer prison sentences (preferably life) for sex offences I would definitely want to see a clear identification of what kind of sex offences. It won’t work or the law won’t last otherwise. It has to be “just” as in “justice.” Not life for an 18 yr old and 17 yr old (who were probably consensual). But definitely life for a grown man and a 13 year old for example. But each case would have to be looked at individually. There would still be plenty to get life – and NO PAROLE!

m2C – I heard they were going to do that also (exhume), but nothing since. Some people are in an uproar about using the death of children to make a TV show.

Just a bit of info:
Sexual Offenders: are mostly one time offenders,
Sexual predators are repeat offender or ones that prey on the younger children and are violent.

Working1, I am way more south.
But Amber Alert, that another law that needs changing Amber alert, As soon as a child is miss they need to put it out. They need to start a roadblock and everything just like Code Adams at Walmart.

I would like to say, after LE tests that bottle of pills they found on the robbery scene, there could, possibly, still be some arrests.

Thank you Karen.

Me Trying to help the Children.
I get in a lot of trouble in the counties where I live and other townships because I will stop children who are walking alone and not under adult supervision and give them flyers for their parents that tells them the dangers of letting their child be unsupervised. I also let school and parents in the area know about any strange activities in the area that may jeopardize their child.

Most of the State Websites will put a Red Box around the Predators picture, and they “the Predators” have a huge amount of other rules then the Sexual offenders.
The trouble is these categorize are only based on the one the Sexual Offenders have been convicted of. THEREFORE, they may have more that are unknown and are truly Predators also.
Predators are checked on more, by their P.O.s (Probation Officers.)
Some counties are suppose to alert everyone in the neighborhood when a predator moves in. BUT THEY SELDOM DO.
I hang their poster up everywhere.

I think the sex offender registry needs to be changed to some sort of a ranking system. it might help save LE some time in these cases when children go missing.

My understanding is right now anyone arrested for a sexual offence such as a 19 yr old dating a 15 year old can be labeled as a sex offender and required to register as such for life. In my area (IL) to be deemed a sexual predator there must be several offences (WTH?)and they are ruled as such by the courts.

I am not in the legal system so maybe some states have addressed this. I’m not saying all sexual offenders shouldn’t be held accountable but it seems resources are limited as it is and could be used more effectively.

I think it is time the citizens down there and everywhere start making a stink about the way the justice system handles repeat sexual offenders. Demand justice for these kids, too many are disappearing. I can’t imagine all the parents who are left to wonder where there children are and what they may have or had to live through.

One person can make a change. Start a group, band together and force the government to address the situation. Create a movement that can’t be ignored. The people of Putnam should be lobbying the state to get involved and fix whatever is wrong down there.

All the things we talk about on here, people walking in and out of jail like its a joke. No wonder so many are breaking the law, why not? All the charges dropped against Ron, how do you get off on possession anyway? Either they caught you with it or they didn’t, come on. Something stinks in Putnam county and it is time residents there start demanding better.

If there are enough people asking the right questions and shining enough light in the dark corners, you won’t be ignored.

There should be laws that limit their ability to live within a certain distance from schools. I also think teachers and bus drivers should have to have an annual meeting to discuss the whereabouts of certain individuals on their bus routes like watch zones for the drivers, even put up watch zone signs at dropoffs if the zone has more than a usual number s.o. ,so parents know which zones are safe to walk from and which ones arent.

make the watch zone symbol recognizable through a letter to parents each year and the annual bus driver/teacher meeting. ex. could be a small sign added at the bottom of the stop sign with a triangle in red for area w/ high number of s.o. in thae area to yellow to green if under a certain number and upgraded yearly after determining the area status of profiled s.o. When people in the area see their signs turning red they are more likly to band together to ask for action from appropriate officials and wontallow their area to be overtaken as in the florida case. Make a law banning registered offenders from being able to purchase or rent in an area with a certain limit. They must go elsewhere as to not saturate an area and bring into dissaray!

The Law in Florida for Sexual Offenders and Predators
1. Are not allowed to live with a 1000 feet of schools.
2. They are not allowed to go to public beaches and public parks.
3. You can sign up for emails to be sent to you for your area if one moves in
4. They have to report to P.O. every month.
5. P.O. visits their work at random, and their home.
6. Pictures and address are done every 6 months.

But NONE OF THIS STOPS THEM!!!

12. Must register in any count that they even go to visit.

13. Are not allowed to posses occupational licenses
14. Cannot have a job where the need to enter peoples homes.

It doesn’t stop them because citizens are unaware. If Every stop sign had a 2 mile radius status done and the signs went all red, I think the “citizens” would stop them. To assume the “criminal” will stop is unrealistic. it is the citzens awareness that will prevent them. the crimninal will always try.

I think the laws you have stated LawShrink are pretty much universal. It seems pretty obvious there is an enforcement problem.

Before today I took comfort knowing that, here in IL, once deemed a predator you could be held in jail indefinately until deemed “safe” to be released, and they were then monitered closely. It is crazy the Department of Corrections can override the opinion of the very people hired to evaluate these monsters.

I taught my children from day one to be “to smart for strangers” and my brother made them personal alarms on chain. Nevertheless, how does this stop the person from coming in to a Childs room at night as they sleep and snatching them?
No signs, laws, will stop this type. They need life in prison.

Your Right Mel22, I wish we could enact this policy!!

What is SM Forum?
And I am not Upset. I like your Ideas.

LS, yeah ok no prob , just sounded like you were saying shut up about so’s in a nice way even though i didnt bring up the subject first but anyway sm is scaredmonkeys. com The people there are geared toward swapping photos and links for investigating and making aware the players involved so the presuure can be put on the right people.This forum has gotten me a lot of info too but on SM you can share pictures from google eareth and collaborate links easier.

Katfish –

You are correct about the little girl missing in Orange Park. I spoke with a friend who lives in Jax this afternoon — the child in the attempted abduction was 5 years old, riding her bike in the afternoon, one block from where Somer was taken. A car pulled up to the little girl, and an adult nearby noticed that they (1 woman, 2 men) in a car were trying to talk to the child (I’m not sure what else). The little girl looked frightened and started pedaling her bike faster like she was trying to get away. The woman who witnessed this went to the little girl and asked if she knew them, and the car sped away.

Yesterday, the day after Somer went missing, ONE WEEK after the 5-year-old attempted abduction, LE gave the info up and then posted a picture of a blue car that the witness had described. Now, this afternoon, Clay Co LE say the owner of that car has been found and has nothing to do with the attempted abduction last week.

Does that make sense to ANYBODY??? If they say they found the car and it’s not connected to what happened — THAT’S NOT THE RIGHT CAR THEN!!! The witness is an adult woman who was right there! She wasn’t sure of the exact make, but described it and it was blue and a certain style. But, apparently LE is saying the car they found and owner aren’t connected to the case – then go look for another one! JEEZ!

I hear ya LS, i wouldnt be able to handle your job . I applaud you. i must’ve just taken the wording wrong .LOL

The only problem with the Orange Park case is there are so many blue cars of each make, that without a plate number it would be almost impossible. They need to get GPS chips embedded in the soles of kids shoes so they can be tracked in an emergency unless of couse their shoes are tossed out. Or embedded in the stitching of a backpack! even if they were thrown out it would give the general starting path of the perpetrator.

And each Darryl probably has a son Darryl Jr. who each go by their middle name ” Timmy” and ” Tommy” making it more confusing.

mel22 –

and probably no shortages of “Juniors” either.

Must be a tough thing for an investigator to find a body and get all excited that they solved the case and then in the same breath realize they were too little too late to save them alive.

And they’re roaming among us every day! It could very well have been the person standing in line in front of you at 7-11!

Well, Charlie Crist is in Orange Park and he just said that crime in Florida is down 7% – but what type of crime? Uhh, is he including crimes against children??

I thought it was cool to hear on the broadcast yesterday that the residents on that street were cheering on LE as they rounded up those 10 idiots and lined them up against the fence. Must’ve been a sight!

Mel22 @ 3:49 and working1 @ 3:53 = LOL glad I’m not alone in confusing these names.

working1 said,in October 21st, 2009 at 3:55 pm

Well, this makes it a little worse – the landfill where they found the little body is the place where they dump the garbage from Orange Park.

awww…man! hate to hear that. Mark klaas said last night on NG if a pedophile takes a child they are usually dead within 3 hours.

Haleigh ran through my mind when you said a child’s body was found in Georgia….IIRC there have been sightings or a connection there with family….and then I realized if it was HC after this amount of time there wouldn’t be a body. :`(

The garbage from Orange park is dumped in Georgia?

Hank “Tommy” Sr. — didn’t he report his illegal stash of prescription drugs were stolen a couple of weeks ago?

Where is all these quotes about Hank Sr coming from? I heard he was back in Putnum Co….but that was the last i heard. ?????

Not all people in florida are bad people. I live in florida not all counties are that bad. I know other counties may give a bad look to every county but I can tell you when a child misses so many days at school they call your home they ask questions. My son last year was out of school for a week sick. They called me cause I forgot to call them I was worried about my son not calling some darn school to report he was sick. Once he got better send in a doctor’s note. They are strick here from what I can tell I have been living here for three years now. You can get arrested and I have been told they would arrest you.

As for parents killing their children I dont or cant understand why anyone would harm a child or their own children I havent yet understand that and instead of being responsiblie for the child’s death they blame other people the devil, satan, the babysiter when they are at fault. But they only get a slap on the wrist when I believe if you murder someone you should get the same punishment.

Lawshrink,
I agree with you but that used their own rights when they commited this crimes something needs to be done tougher laws or something.

NOT everyone in florida are evil…

Not to go back to Misty’s HaLeigh 911 call, but if you listen to the Drug Buy Gone Badd 911 call, she clearly states My Car in the beginning,…(some ? that she lied with Our Daughter comment)

Also she says, why would she bring us here if they were gonna f–king robb us.. (something like that)… Hmmmmmm

Hi, “cent”!

Did you ever find the video of the walk thru? On the other thread, someone left you info on how to find it.

I did post on the other thread this a.m. but have been gone most of the day and have not checked the other thread.

Yeah..like she “didn’t know “she was “there to buy drugs”

Sure,she was there to drop a meal for the elderly with the Meals on wheels program.

Misty,Misty Misty.
If you wanna be”left alone” quit putting yourself in the spotlight car chases,drug deals gone bad etc .
keep your legs shut and your nose clean.
Don’t be like your mama Popeye the crypt keeper.Look how rugged she looks for her age and how little she has to show for her self.
A life of drugs will do that.

katfish – can you imagine anyone writing a prescription for 140 Lortabs for anything??? these people are so stupid! I read somewhere that Lortabs go for $8 apiece.

mamma Popeye the crypt keeper (I love that one) — she looks 60 and has no teeth. And a life of drugs will also cause you to neglect your children – maybe someone needs to drill that into Misty’s head since she loves kids so much! Mamma Popeye is so quick to throw her daughter under the bus — imagine, just imagine, how she was when Misty was 5, 7, 10 years old. She’s a lost soul, in my opinion, but she can recover if the right people are in her life and she’s out of that cesspool.

Well guess Misty got her divorce and now she wants to party,what the hell she got to cut lose because he has know control on her now.Maybe she’ll get high and talk to someone and tell what happen.I would not be a bit surpised if this is not another set up.She really needs to get a friend and I don’t mesn like the ones using her to get info,but one that will get her off the street and help her get help(mental),and help her to stay off the drugs.She might see the light and talk,I think she has been used so much by people she don’t know which way to go.LE should take her off the street and do something.This story sounds so fishy and set up.I wish evertone would just concentrate on HALEIGH.Look how Somers famliy acted,and everyone pulled together,sad the way it turned out though.God rest her soul.Praying for her family and her tonight.Sweet little Butterfly.

And then I sent an e-mail to Charlie Crist — children should NOT have to live outside a 2-mile radius to be provided bus transportation. We live in a different world and Somer walked by preditor after preditor on her way to and from school. I know she had her 10-year-old sister with her, but ANYONE could pull up and grab a child, and no one could stop them.

We need to provide safe transportation to and from school, no matter what the cost. But in this case, Clay County needs to account for WHY they didn’t report the previous abduction attempt immediately. Charlie Crist was at the news conference in Orange Park; he needs to follow-up on this gross, tragic negligence. I will let you know his response if I get one.

I hope others from the Orange Park area (and everywhere really) don’t let this go.

15 offenders don’t know up on the map. 5 of them are in jail. They have address for the other 10, but am I suppose to look each one up or what?

Thank You working1,if more people would get involved this kind of stuff would stop.My self I keep a close eye around my area,anything and I mean anything that does not look right I check on,if it don’t look right and scares me,or out of the normal I am on the phone,I let everyone in on it,first police then others around me.We all have bats.Which I keep at every gate,inside my main door,and around the yard.We have a gun if needed.Just let anyone mess around my home or a child here they sure will wish they were some place else.Drug dealers beware,I am on top of that too.We have cleaned up around here on that too.We put up alarms in the yard,got a dog,who lets us know if someone comes in the yard.Come in my place and your not welcome,pay the price.And the childrens bus stop is in front of my house.we are out to meet them each day.Had to fight for the bus stop but I got it.Please parents don’t let your children walk without you or another adult you trust.Please keep an eye out.My Grandson isn’t aloud to be out doors without an adult,if we come in so does he.We have a privates fence around the back yard,but still the rule applies.simple rules saves our children.Never alone.

HAS ANY OTHER POLICE DEPT. QUESTION HOW THINGS ARE HANDLED IN SASUMA COUNTY. THERE IS SOMETHING REALLY WRONG WITH THE WAY THESE PEOPLE GET OFF WITH THINGS. DRUGS, RAPE( RON,MISTY UNDER AGE) GETTING HIGH, NO DRUG TEST, NO ARREST. THE CPOS THERE MUST BE DOING DRUGS TOO. THAT BABY SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOUND, AND MISTY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN JAIL A LONG TIME AGO. MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN JAILED WITHOUT A BODY. HER LIES ALONE IS ENOUGH. HOW CAN YOU SAY NO EVIDENCE, WHEN A CHILD HAS NOT BEEN IN HER HOME ALL THIS TIME. A BABY IS MISSING. PLEASE TELL ME THIS CHILD HAD SOME WORTH. CAUSE THIS COUNTY POLICE DEPT ISN’T DOING A DARN THING TO BRING JUSTICE FOR HER.

Children in the state of Florida are expected to walk to school if they live within a 2-mile radius. Do you know how many preditors Somer and her brother and sister had to walk by to and from each day? And even if Somer had stayed with her 10-year-old sister and twin brother, do you think if someone pulled up beside them, that the 10-year-old could have done anything?

MsLiz, I understand you are frustrated and I agree there have been a number of things that I think should have been handled differently. However, you are saying a lot of misinformation. It is not a fact that Misty did anything wrong concerning Haleigh. To my knowledge the police have never said that Misty is not a suspect. They have repeatedly questioned her. She has probably been interrogated more hours than anyone. Just telling you this so you know.
Thanks, Treece

Is that a fact that they couldn’t tell if she was a boy or girl?

Oh My, At the bottom of this article, it’s heart breaking and I have asked that very same question myself.

DEVELOPING: Body found in landfill. Is it Somer Thompson?
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October 21, 2009 9:53 PM
Juan Carlos Fanjul
JACKSONVILLE– The FBI, FDLE and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation are focusing on a landfill in Folkson, Georgia where the body of a child was found Wednesday Afternoon.

Right now police are trying to figure out if the body is little Somer Thompson.

“The body appears to be a of a small child. No positive ID at this time, the body was partially covered. All we could see were the lower extremities,” said Clay County Sheriff Rick Beseler.

The trash that goes to that southern Georgia landfill comes from her neighborhood in the Jacksonville area.

Her father, who lives in North Carolina, tells the Florida Times-Union newspaper that a birth mark on the body found at the landfill matches one on her daughter.

Somer went missing Monday afternoon after separating from her sister as they walked home from school.

Although they had no clues until now, cops suspected foul play all along.

For three days her mother has been agonizing over the dissapearance.

“I just want her to come home,” said a grief-stricken Diena Thompson hours before the body was found.

Her estranged husband, who’s heading back to Florida, feared this would happen.

“Why are 5 and 7-year-old’s walking almost a mile home from school? Especially in an area where there are so many sex offenders,” asked Samuel Thompson.

Authorities hope to have a positive identification by Thursday afternoon.

Tragic, tragic, tragic. We live in a broken world.

MsLiz:

I agree with what you said about the kids being left with Misty in the shape she was in. On TV, she didn’t really look sober for days after Haleigh disappeared—Ron either, at times.

Okay, I don’t want to assume anything here. But North Carolina isn’t far from Jacksonville area. And the landfill is on the way. The father states he feared this would happen, then states, “Why are 5 and 7-year-old’s walking almost a mile home from school? Especially in an area where there are so many sex offenders,”

Granted, we all have that very same question.
But he knew there were so many there and he feared this would happen. Obviously they are divorced or seperated. I hope this isn’t what I think it is.

Cent: I do wonder about that interview that Misty was going to give. That will most likely be off since this robbery.

That jail in Satsuma has revolving doors, I believe. Misty will be in there before long, most likely.

Does anyone know what happened to Ron’s sister?

Karon,

You mean the girl that wore that crazy looking un-be-weave/wig?

You know… I thought it was funny that pretty much everyone except GGM Sykes, M Teresa stopped showing up on camera. We didn’t even see much of Ron’s father,(besides Geraldo interview)

I wonder how close sissy and Ronnie boy really are.

Has anyone else heard the urgency in Misty’s voice during her 911 call. Sounds more distraught than on the one regarding HaLeigh.

Yesterday I just felt too blah to come on and I don’t even feel like catching up now, just wanted to skim through to see if there was anything new on Haleigh.

May God watch over all the children tonight and especiall be with Somer’s parents!

Nite!

cent:

Yeah I mean Cornrows Crystal.

I don’t think Ronald is even making any new appearances, every since Cobra let the cat out of the bag about Ronald might not be Haleigh’s bio dad. He had already made that Maury Povitch film by then. That is coming on today, Thursday. I don’t get that show, but maybe we can pick up some footage, somewhere.

After that Ronald’s lawyer started making the appearances for Ronald.

Justice:
I don’t know if you have this video of Ronald taking the Today show thru the trailer. It shows the computer and some other interesting things very clearly.

crime searcher online.com/index.php?…show=Ronald-Cummings…Today-show

To Karon Cox (2:33 a.m.):

Thanks for the info, Karon. That is a neat site. All kinds of info!

Later….gone for the day!

Linda, I don’t think Misty had a car the night Haleigh went missing. I think she was home with both kids an no vehicle.
This doesn’t make sense to me that Misty was out buying drugs & got mugged & called police. Looking at the details sounds more like a set up than reality. Just food for thought. Treece

Good morning LawShrink, how will Somer’s family ever heal? Does her twin not feel like part of him died? It’s not the families fault but how will they ever get over the regret and guilt?

I have been in tears since last night, over this! This Family like many will never heel completely,
In addition, you are so correct Treece, The twin will surely have a very hard time with this.
Why oh Why won’t they change the laws!!!

I am really starting to believe in vigilantism, and eye for an eye.
Sorry I am Venting
Anyone know if there is going to be another news conference?

LawShrink, I understand your venting, if feel the same way. But even an eye for an eye wouldn’t bring justice to this family. Only the grace of God can put their lives back together. jmo

Changethe_system, Is there any way you can go down there and raise hell with LE about this?

Also, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to have your son fill out a police report. That way it’s on record and if nothing gets done about this, they can be in hot water.

Florida obviously has some serious issues. Now I see why it takes LE months/years to get somewhere.

It looks to me that the LE in the Somer case didn’t waste time. A very sad ending, But they did do their job. Maybe Putnam County should take notes.

PAW69- yes I can & I will. Another thing, when HaLeigh 1st went missing there was a pic. of her bio mom on the front page heading to some kind of conference. There was a guy behind her & obviously part of the family in some way. Both my mom & myself noticed the resemblance of this person- he looked JUST like the father of one of my old friends-who molested her & her sister as children. I am certainly not saying bio mom or this guy (if it was in fact him) are involved BUT this too was reported by both of us.I called the crime stoppers hot line for tips, she called the local LE office. We both expressed our concern & that this at least should be checked out. We left our names & #’s for detectives to call us & no reply.

just here said…I reported it to the email link, per your thread. Thanks!

change the-, it is possible the LE checked it out but never called yall back. With all the tips they were given there is no way they would call very many back but they could have investigated who that man was. Not saying they did, but they could have. I am sure with 4000+ tips they didn’t return anyone’s calls unless they needed more info.

just here, your are right that cell phone could be very revealing. Wish it could get in LE’s hands.

Since they found Somer’s body so fast by finding the landfill where the trash was dumped, does anyone know if they did that for Haleigh also?

I remember that the cadaver dogs picked up a sent at the dumpster — remember? Did they check this dumpster before it was emptied and went to the landfill? And then checked the landfill?

Change the_system I hope you hound the heck out of them. They need to find out who it was behind the drug deal and robbery. I hear alot of folks from Putnam County state they believe their police force is crooked. I hope this is not true for Haleighs sake. The cell phone could be very important and for someone not to have a job to be carrying $300.00 in her purse.
I watched the Maury show. Ron and Teresa both seeming heart felt but nothing I picked up to shed a light on anything. They were very brief.

Yeah i watched it such a beautiful child all of em are ron did have alot of emotion seemed like he meant it just wish we could know the truth

treece, it seems to me no one knows what happend in this case, how do you know someone could have picked them up! She may have been afraid to tell ron she was out buying drugs! This does prove one thing she takes drugs and will lie!!

Linda, you are right someone could have picked her up. To me this doesn’t prove that she does drugs because I see this a set up. But my opinion is that she does them and that she lies. I think they both just go with her lifestyle. I agree with you if she was out buying drugs and lost Haleigh that she would be afraid to tell Ron. You are so right no one knows and but we all wish they did. I so hope they solve this case. Thanks, treece

Who knows where Misty got her money. You are probably right though. What do you think she gave them ? A picture of Haleigh or perhaps an artificial red rose. I wish they could solve this. My mind is wondering just what Haleigh endured or if she o.k. where ever she may be. My heart is just so broken Over Somer Thompson and how she was disposed. If anyone knows anything I just want them to speak up! I just feel sick all over today.

Treece,

I don’t think what Tommy said about being at the trailer is questionable just because he didn’t tell it until after he and Misty were estranged.

While he and she were getting along, he was likely to protect her but since they weren’t getting along, it makes it more likely he would just tell the truth because he no longer is concerned about protecting her.

I saw the Maury Show… and I am on the fence with this one. While I don’t believe Ron to be “directly” involved in the crime, I find him creepy. This could be because of all the other b/s and crazy antics he has pulled.

I have to say that there is no textbook on how to behave when this sort of crime occurs, but, I keep going back to the 911 call… I have no problem with him stating he’ll kill whoever has her. However, I don’t think you would focus on the prison time.

And I might get bashed for this one… I know the show is about an emotional subject matter, but why didn’t they wipe their eyes/faces. Almost like someone said let the tears run, it’ll look better.

I’m starting to wonder if the side show circus BS is just a way to bring out the “bad” in these people because LE has no cluewhere to turn because they sat on their duffs too long. There has been a string of missing kids being killed all through that part of Florida. I’m starting to wonder if they are all related. Including Haleigh. These predators are watching every movement of these little girls from age 5-9 so far. The predator(s) is/are going to make a mistake sooner or later though.

Someone had already put out there 17 children missing/killed in the Orlando area this year. That’s a lot and that’s just the Orlando area. So yeah, that’s why I’m kinda going towards an epidemic direction here.

Yeah, Misty and Ron and Crystal are druggies, and have bad parenting skils, but it doesn’t make them murderers. Due to the lack of evidence if any at all, They go for the bottom feeders because they think they don’t have a leg to stand on because of their life style. So instead of doing their job, they run with something that just sounds good to them.

So Misty and Ron and Crystal didn’t respond the way we think they should have. And yeah, there is question on whether or not Misty was even home. 8 months later there is still nothing for the LE to even stand on.

BUT!, there are a lot of coincidental missing children in the upper 1/2 of Florida. Only a handful have been found. Where are the rest of them?

Paw,

It’s true that they didn’t respond the way the world would expect. I do feel at times my own judgement/thoughts gets clouded from the b/s in this case.

Easy to be influenced one way or another.

You’re right, when there are “lower class” victims involved, the worst is assumed.

See, with Somer Thompson, To me it sounds kinda odd in a lot of different ways. I’ll keep my mouth shut about it for now. But because this family isn’t “low class” they will never question anyone.

I’m gonna say it. The father stated he knew this was going to happen. If he knew this was going to happen, why didn’t he do something about it before it happened? Obviously they are divorced because he lives in NC. NC isn’t that too far away. Who’s to say he didn’t do it out of spite because of what might have been going on between him and Somer’s Mother?

Just a thought is all. But like I said, no one will ever get questioned.

PAW – They are probably thinking SO because of the reported attempt to grab another child the week before. Also, I’m not sure that class has anything to do with it. I think the Klaas family was middle class and they were put thru the wringer about their daughter. And I’ve heard other cases too (just can’t remember the names off-hand). Plus the recent Jaycee Dugard case. Her step-father was the main suspect for all these years. So I don’t think class necessarily dictates whether they look at SO’s first. I think it’s more circumstance.

Also what I question is this, and I don’t know why. What made 1 detective want to follow a trash truck to the landfill and search there? Obviously we are glad that took place. But was it because that detective did it but no one would question them? I mean, think about it. No tip, no leads and they follow a trash truck all the way to the landfill and find her??? We’ve seen worse of the worse here and nothing shocks me anymore. Hell we’ve had as far as a Sunday School Teacher do evil things and kill a child. Priests as well. There are crooked cops too and we all know that.

Yes, I may be looking too deeply into this. But damn, after whats all been going on in the past 1 1/2 yrs. Who’s to say it’s far fetched.

Her killer is still out there.

PAW I read a mainstream news article that quoted the Sheriff giving his detective the credit for suggesting that and the detective as saying that was something they’d been taught (in cop school or wherever). So I don’t know why HE thought of it and not the Sheriff or whoever but maybe it was just the fact that he thought of applying that investigative technique to THIS situation at THIS time! And for once it worked! Thank heaven! And it was very very smart for that Sheriff to assign all those cops and detectives to actually follow the trash trucks to the dumps so they could sift thru the specific piles. That was GOOD police work (for a change!)

PAW – There’s a story on the home page of wftv.com Part of it reads:

ORANGE PARK, Fla. — After 7-year-old Somer Thompson vanished on her way home from school, investigators tailed nine garbage trucks from her neighborhood to a Georgia landfill nearly 50 miles away (see landfill), then methodically picked through the trash as each rig spilled its load.

They sorted through 100,000 tons of garbage before their worst fears were realized: Sticking out of the rubbish were a child’s lifeless legs.

Sheriff Rick Beseler said the quick discovery of Somer’s body on Wednesday, two days after she disappeared, may have saved precious evidence that could lead to her killer.

“Had we not done this tactic, I believe that body would have been buried beneath hundreds of tons of debris, probably would have gone undiscovered forever,” he said Thursday.

m2c, okay then I ask this of you. Since you have heard about this, have you questioned if that is what happened to Haleigh?

The SO would know to go to that room too because that’s the only light that probably was turned on and off most frequently due to the kids sleeping in the same room as Misty.

m2c, and now we may never know. And poor Haleigh may never be found.

Here is the Link to R. Cummings & Neves on the Maury show: (Video)

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m10d22-HaLeigh-Cummings-story-on-Maury-show-video
Crime Examiner 10-22-09 6:21 p.m. EDT

“Haleigh Cummings story on Maury show” VIDEO

My name came up wrong? Above post is mine? wth?

I finally found the energy to get back here, it really hit hard about Somer and hearing Marc Klaas on NG….NG asked him if they could still find Somer alve since it hadn’t been 24 hours and Marc responded with a NO, in stranger abductions the child is usually dead in 3 or 4 hours ( I believe this is the time frame but it was a very small amount of time).

So if Ron and Misty are guilty, its not of hiding Haleigh, If they are innocent that just leaves 2 alternatives: a stranger (or non family member) or Crystal.

If Crystal did anything Haleigh is probably being hid out.

If it was not Crystal, then Haleigh is probably not with us any more.

So I pray that Crystal is the guilty one, that Haleigh is safe and healthy somewhere. I pray she is found and returned home. The alternative is just too sad.

Laws need to be changed and these people, once exposed and found guilty do not ever need to be aloud to roam in public anymore. I’m all for the death penalty, my husband is more leaniant, he thinks that they need to set aside a place for all SOs to spend the remainder of their life. I told him Florida would be the perfect place, the majority of them were already there. (OK, don’t get mad I’m originally from Florida).

PAW69 said,
in October 22nd, 2009 at 7:53 pm

m2c, okay then I ask this of you. Since you have heard about this, have you questioned if that is what happened to Haleigh?
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PAW,

Sheriff Hardy stated today that the landfills were searched for HaLeigh:

Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy said during the first few days of the investigation that deputies also searched landfills, which is how Somer was found Wednesday.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=147059&catid=3

I guess that’s good news and that was not overlooked. The thought of her laying in a trash heap is just unbearable.

I hate the thought of poor Somer being there too. Hearing both of her parents mentioning her being “thrown away like trash” just brings me to tears. I hope that they catch that monster so Somer can get her justice and hopefully her family can somehow find some peace eventually.

And more than anything I hope we can find HaLeigh! Way past time for HER to come home!

Justice:

Thanks for the Maury Povich link.

karen,

yes he is different. i had been wondering if he was playing a role all of the time to be happily married for misty’s sake. you know being “on” so to speak. to keep her close? or to convince her, he really did want to get married, not for legal reasons. i guess he could also really be missing misty. and maybe with misty not being around, it maybe harder not to think all the time about what happened to haleigh.

of course if it is someone’s fact sheet we would have to get permission to copy it

Treece I agree with you about the grin on Ron on NG..It came when she said that little spiel, I forget how it exactly was said, but something about a bunch sitting around smoking pot, keeping their yaps shut, that is when he grinned…I did to..
The trick here is to find out what happened after gg Sykes dropped off the clothes 7-7:30, Misty said Tommy went about 5:30,Ac guy about 5,
the Kids were just finishing up supper when gg Sykes stopped by..Then what?? Misty say’s she put the Haleigh to bed at 8, but she also called Ron at 8:30 saying she couldn’t get Haleigh to settle down, I found that to be odd in itself, he said just whip the brat and then said or put in a movie, which she said she did,Tommy is suppose to have stopped by at 9:45-10 P.M..Misty say’s she went to bed at 10..So call me confused..something is wrong with this time line..Never mind anything else..

Sorry for all the type “O’S… Haven’t had my coffee yet. 🙁

Also the “bumping: a lock is very easy and effective when you have a cheap lock. (Anything under 5 pins)

Just wondering…yes that is the vague answer I got at the SO yesterday. No urgency at all. I sent an email to the SO as well yesterday (the new link that was provided)no reply yet. I also have not heard back from the PPD-also left them a VM yesterday . My child does not know if the kid was involved with the actual robbery or if he just somehow ended up with the cell phone. Last night he also told me the school sport he plays & the # on his jersey. Other than that he does not know his name. He is older than my child as well. Also the apt. complex where this took place is known for violence & drugs. In my heart, I feel my child’s story is in fact connected to the missing phone/purse. And I guess I will have to literally chase LE down & make them listen to me. As I have said before-it may not be nothing at all, but as a mom I have to follow my gut instincts. Time is always of the essence. The phone may already be gone by now. Sold on the street for drug money.

After 8+ months, I’m to the point in this case that LE needs to put up or shut up about Misty and Ron. And move on. Media needs to stop with the side shows period. It’s not helping anything. Enough is Enough. Haleigh is obviously long gone. They need to find her. They needs to go a different direction. They need to bring people in that know what they are doing.

Agree with Toughenough – it could be a SO who took Haleigh. I heard a discussion on another news channel who said that very seldom does a perp enter a home at random without leaving some kind of evidence, fingerprints or some fibers etc. Of course if it was a planned abduction, the perp would be a lot more careful to have everything needed to steal the child.

Another fact, psychics are often mentioned. Most police departments do not use them altho if it was my missing child, I would try anything. Ron said recently that several psychics had been there with no results. I thought on Maury that both Teresa and Ron looked very good (much better than we have seen them) and answered questions well. People who have not read about this case nor have seen the Cummings before should be impressed. I don’t have any idea what happened to Haleigh but I have always thought both Teresa and Ron really loved this child. I am sure, almost, that Teresa has helped raise this child.

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Linda, Last night in my posting I was just trying to show how quickly people come to their conclusions/judge. That’s all.

Most of it is because I’m angry about the 8+ months on Haleigh and how LE jump right onto Misty and haven’t moved on really. I understand that it’s because of her being inconsistant. But looking at other avenues at the same time wouldn’t hurt either. They have lost 8+ months of valuable time due to this. It’s just a lot of anger built up is all.

PAW69

You have to right to be angry, i agree they were to slow and to far behind on this one! Missed alot!!

Just Wondering said,
“Then what?? Misty say’s she put the Haleigh to bed at 8, but she also called Ron at 8:30 saying she couldn’t get Haleigh to settle down, I found that to be odd in itself, he said just whip the brat and then said or put in a movie, which she said she did,Tommy is suppose to have stopped by at 9:45-10 P.M..Misty say’s she went to bed at 10..So call me confused..something is wrong with this time line..Never mind anything else..”

Hope this helps your confusion a bit. The alleged “just whip the brat” conversation Ronald had with Misty occured weeks before Haleigh went missing. The alleged arguement the night she went missing was about Misty wanting to babysit for some children other than Ronalds.
Tommy never stated a definitive time that he went to the Green Lane trailor, he said it was in the 10 O’clock Hour- which is anytime after 10 PM but before 11 PM.

Thank’s JJ sorry if I was mistaken,
I was siting these articles,

http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/21/exclusive-misty-cummings-brother-reveals-he-was-at-trailer-and-more/

http://www.bloggernews.net/122339

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/21/ng.01.html

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5264616.php

I am sorry I do not recall ever hearing 9:45 specifically, or prior to 10 PM.

Misty probably gave Haleigh a drug laced lollipop..

Karon Cox said,in October 22nd, 2009 at 11:28 pm

cent:

I saw that Maury interview, and I am confused. Have you noticed how Ronald has lost that smirk, now? He looks genuinely sad, now. I don’t understand what has happened to cause such a drastic change in attitude. It wasn’t just this interview. The last several months he looks sadder and less cocky.
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Karon,

Yes, I’ve noticed that Ronnie’s facial expressions have changed. I do believe that he has been hit with something that he didn’t expect or didn’t want to know!! It just may be the realization that HE has more to do with HaLeigh being taken than people believe.

I think he’s very sadden, exactly why (besides the obvious)… I don’t know ?

Once again, my opinion could be clouded by the b/s… but I still see something off with him and his mother.

Disgusted, when you post with links included those post are put on hold until they can be reviewed and approved. The post will probably show up later. just fyi

Why aren’t the authorities looking more at Ron ? I understand he has a record as long as my arm. He certainly isn’t a saint. Isn’t having sex with an underage girl a crime, he likes them young ?
His Mom works as a dispatcher for the Sherriffs office there. Is there a cover up ?
I have a feeling Ron knows what happened…and may be involved…
When Mistys brother went to the trailer and knocked..was Misty’s vehicle out front ?

Is Misty covering up for Ron ?
Remember when the dogs hit on the dumpster ?
I wonder if her little body had been there, and moved.
Like little Somer Thompson, (found in the garbage)
Did they thoroughly search the landfill ?
What is with Florida ?
Hey, this time they took Mistys’ purse..last time maybe they took Haleigh ?
Why don’t they put Misty in rehab..
..and…
Why wasn’t Ron arrested for having sex with a minor..Misty.
Where is the Grand Jury ?
If the drugs are in lollipop form, I can see how Haleigh might have grabbed one !
Is that whole town on drugs..they all are illiterate, incoherent, criminals, and druggies. Trailer Trash..

And Liars….

cent @ 7:19 pm: You said, “Yes, I’ve noticed that Ronnie’s facial expressions have changed. I do believe that he has been hit with something that he didn’t expect or didn’t want to know!! It just may be the realization that HE has more to do with HaLeigh being taken than people believe. I think he’s very sadden, exactly why (besides the obvious)… I don’t know ?”
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Maybe because it’s been 8 months and he’s beginning to give up hope? IMO his divorcing Ditzy may mean that he does not think she had anything to do with it OR that he’s given up on getting any info out of her.
I’m sure they would have divorced soon enough anyway. He never wanted to marry her. It was one of those “shotgun” weddings – not in the traditional sense of the gal being preggers but because he would have been arrested for statutory rape if he hadn’t.

m2c,

Maybe he has lost hope!! I’m sure all kinds of emotions are running through him and the rest of the family. I still go back to some of his statements “only God can judge me”…
“I’ll believe she’s alive till someone shows me her body”… “Don’t know I was at work”!!

They all have said some crazy stuff… I just think perhaps he feels he is to blame (indirectly).

I don’t know!!!