This just in from TJ Hart, I have to say that I find it amazing, you are in the media spotlight for a national news story and cannot keep out of trouble – Simon
The 17-year-old former stepmother of missing Satsuma, FL girl Haleigh Cummings was robbed Monday while at a Palatka apartment complex with two other women. One of the women told police they were there to buy drugs.
Palatka police said Misty Cummings, freshly divorced from Halleigh’s dad, Ronald Cummings, was robbed by two or three men about 8:15 p.m. at the Ragsdale Apartment Complex on Moody Road in Palatka.
Police said her purse was stolen and she received minor injuries.
One of the other women, age 18, drove off with Cummings. The third woman, age 22, ran off on foot and later told police that the three went to the apartment complex attempting to buy drugs.
Police have not identified any suspects in the case. Anyone with information can call the Palatka Police Department at (386) 329-0115.
TJ Hart
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Another way to keep her precious name in the media.
Another way for Misty to play victim…
To go on national television with those puppy dog eyes to say, “I was just hanging out, I didn’t know we were going there to buy drugs”!
Whateverrrr.
Maya Angelou said, “When someone tells you who they are, believe them.” It was never truer than the case of Misty Croslin. She has been letting us know EXACTLY who she is for quite awhile now. Sorry that she is young, sorry that she is poor, sorry that she is uneducated but she has chosen to live this type of life. Just TRY and convince me that she had nothing to do with Haleigh’s disappearance.
I wonder who Mistys lawyer is going to say lead her to be present with friends that are purchasing illegal drugs? I read that Misty told her father that even one of them had a gun and yet she said she chased the robber. Misty must be pretty courageous. Just when I was beginning to feel a little sympathy for this 17 year old girl. Misty does what Misty wants! This is Mistys enviroment and she must not want to change it! Just think this is who Ron left his children with!
Okay, so are we blaming Misty for getting robbed now? Lets get out our pitchforks and let the witch hunt begin….
I don’t like the girl, but really.
I read that Misty is the one that stayed in the car. Was jerked out of car by robber & knocked around and was treated for injuries. I also did not read that Misty chased robber. Where are you getting your info?? Are you really looking for justice?? Thanks, Treece
staying in the car or out and about, she was still there to buy drugs. never learns does she.
Art Harris. com Interview with Hank Croslin sr.
I am not blaming Misty for getting robbed. It is where she was and what was being purchased. Although, she herself was not the one going to the door to score, I do not believe she did not know why they were there.
I am not convinced they were there to buy drugs. This looks like a set up. I have relatives that are druggies and NONE of them would ever be in this situation & say, “We were there to buy drugs”. First, they would be afraid LE would get them and 2nd they would be too afraid of the drug dealer to say something like that. Is it not a give away that the one that said that is the one that “chased” the robbers and didn’t leave with Misty & the driver?
I do not believe this was the real deal. JMO
I meant to say she knew why they were there. Yes, I am looking for Justice. Whoever it may be. This girl is not that innocent and she was apart of Haleighs everyday enviroment.
A lot of LE will give you the option to tell them the truth of weather you were there to buy or not and if you tell the truth straight out they’ll let you go.
You are right just here post 9:31a.m. Le uses that info to their advantage. My uncle and two cousins were Sheriffs in St. Johns County. My uncle has passed due to leukemia. My one cousin is now retired, but he made captain and my other cousin is now a clergyman.
Looking for justice, thank you for your response.
I too want justice here I am just not convinced Misty is the bad guy. IF she is innocent here she has sure been put through alot of crap. If it is true she just woke up & Haleigh was gone I am sure she feels terrible about it.
I am sure your are right, she is not that innocent in many things. If she is guilty of doing anything wrong to Haleigh I want her caught & punished. I just want her proven guilty before she it tried & sentenced. I have trouble with anything TM says about Misty. I no longer believe he gives a rats a$$ about her. I think his little “Donna mother” trick was lower than dirt and it is way too late for him to act like that he cares for Misty. JMO and thanks for listening. Treece
I also have no idea if Misty is guilt or not, I’m just saying that apparently she either doesn’t know how much trouble she could be in or she doesn’t care. I also believe that if LE had a leg to stand on they would take this opportunity to arrest her. So when you get down to it there is a lot going on that people like us have no clue.
IMO it also appears as if LE is letting the rope stretch out as far as it can go before they start reeling “all” of them in.
Looking for Justice: your right on the 9:43 post. It’s amazing how much info you can get out of the one that doesn’t want to go to jail.
Treece @ 9:29 am – I agree.
I think the mainstream media is reporting that the other girl “chased” the robbers. But perhaps Misty told her father a different story or her father is telling a different story. I have no reason to believe either one of them really. And I do think her father would take the opportunity to dramatize it – and put himself in the spotlight again!
The whole deal is a non-issue to me. I just don’t care about it.
Just here you are right again. We do not know exactly everything LE has. I saw a clip on you tube of Rons lawyer, Mr. Shoemaker stating the NPO was to pay for a PI to look closer at Crystals side of the family. I believe look into everyone they can to find Haleigh, but it struck me kind of odd that Misty also pointed fingers to that side of the family as well on the early show. All of this coming out from both Misty and Ron while they are divorcing and must say that divorce was finalized in record time. I just wonder if they came up with this together to point fingers in an alternate direction.
Fact is LE knows more than we do.
Treece, I feel Tim does feel for Mistys safety and it may not have been so tactful, but it was all in the interest of finding Haleigh. This is what we all want no matter what avenues we have to explore.
treece, get real. This girl doesn’t know right from wrong & she keeps getting away with the wrong
I don’t think LE in Putnam County have a clue.
And now, in neighboring Clay County, a little 7-year-old girl is missing and they say they are baffled. Well – how about if LE in Clay Co. had made PUBLIC the fact that an abduction attempt had occurred only ONE WEEK EARLIER on THE NEXT STREET OVER from where little Somer disappeared?? How about if they had the SENSE to let the ELEMENTARY SCHOOL in the neighborhood know, and ALL PARENTS?? Maybe, just maybe, Somer wouldn’t be missing now!!!!!
looking for justice, I agree with you LE knows more than we do. I hope they know A LOT more than we do.
I agree we want Haleigh found. I think TM setting Misty up with a “mother” is way out of line. BUT going public and saying all the things he said is inexcusable to me. I also think if he was concerned for Misty’s safety he wouldn’t have had Donna drop her off at a convenient store and he wouldn’t have blabbed it if he did. But I respect your opinion. Thanks, Teresa
Misty keeps going back to the same company, the drugies. I still think Drugs have someting to do with Haleighs disapearance.
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A nobody said, 1st of all you are a somebody to me. I agree she may not know right from wrong on a number of things. I believe her back ground has been very lacking in teaching her right. BUT that does not mean she did anything wrong concerning Haleigh and it seems like she has been the main one single out to blame from day one. Can you just for a moment give her the benefit of the doubt on Haleigh. IF she is innocent concerning Haleigh look at all that has happened to her from this.
#1 Losing a child on her watch would be life scarring.
#2 17 years old – married & divorced from a man she says she still loves
#3 publicly degraded, belittled and accused
#4 alienated from her family
#5 Set up by TM with Donna, dumped at a convenient store with no family to go to –
I could go on but I won’t
I am not convinced she is innocent but I believe she might be and should be treated with decency until we know. Treece
treece, tell me why this girl misty is allowed to break the law right in front of the cops and not get arrested as a seventeen year old. Kids over here in our area get in trouble for smoking, drinking, skipping school, curfews, and driving without a license. It seems this girl is allowed to do whatever she wants. What the hell is wrong with the state of Florida? She acts like she is queen or something. Both her parents should be in jail for her not attending school. She should be placed in a foster home and not wonder the streets at the age of 17.
I understand what you are saying, Treece. I believe it was later reported that Misty was dropped at a friends house not the store all at Mistys request. I believe I saw it on Art Harris .com. I just feel do what you have to do to find Haleigh no matter how out of line it is. I also agree with just said that LE is letting the rope stretch and will reel them all in.
Working1, I agree Clay County should of notified the school and the neighborhood! The officer that let it slip their mind should be held accountable. They could have had more police presence and been on the look out for this vehicle description and people of hispanic nationality and then perhaps NO CHILD would have abducted!
The police already know if this is a “drug house” or not. I believe that Misty knew right where they were all going. If both purses were “stolen”, I wonder what was in the other purse that was so important as to chase the thief? Maybe this really wasn’t so much a robbery, but an opportunity to silence Misty. You know, keep your mouth shut about such & such or else. How exactly were the police involved? I mean it seems odd to contact LE to report your purse being stolen while you are at a drug house. Any one else feel that way?
crazy — EXACTLY. What in the hell is wrong with the state of Florida??
Crazy, It’s not just her. everyone there are smoking,drinking,skipping school,driving without a license, don’t have curfews.
Florida has some major issues indeed. I think someone needs to step in, in Florida altogether.
People in Florida seem to be allowed to do anything. Including kill their own child and have attorneys who just jumped out of a fruit loop box.
The system in Florida has to be fixed before anything else will fall into place.
crazy, funny name, I am sure your aren’t really crazy just funny crazy. ha ha I am a little crazy too and very blonde. lol
I agree Misty has fallen through the cracks for a very long time. It is a terrible injustice that she has been allowed to rock on like this.
I wish she had been in foster care many years ago and received care and an education. I would have even taken care of her myself if I could. I agree she does seem to be allowed to do alot of things many are not allowed to do. But I can’t believe she feels like a queen. She is not educated, she has not been properly parented and nurtured. She lost an innocent child that was in her care. She has married and been dumped. She has ridiculed and deceived. I doubt she has ever had anyone that she could truly trust or depend on. I look at my grown sons. They have known all their life their mom & dad loved them to the bone and would be there for them no matter what.
Most of the things you mentioned above were not her fault. Her parents, the school district, the welfare system, and possible LE all failed in this. JMO, sorry for going on & on, will drop it now. Thanks, Treece
Hey, I work for the State of Florida and,
You are so Right!!!
Here are my thoughts of Misty Croslin,
I am not stating she is guilty or innocent of anything at this date in time we do not have all of the evidence to do that. BUT,
IMO, Just my 23 years of being a shrink kicking in.
She is a street-smart 17-year-old girl who had to grow up that way to survive in the environment she grew up in. She may have learned early on to play the innocent, uneducated, victim when she was in trouble. It was the best way for her get through a situation she may have been faced with as a child. I think she is very smart, not book smart, but people smart. I believed she truly loves all children and probably like most people with challenging childhoods, relates to them well because she has not matured to an adult level. I also believe that she is a chameleon, she adapts to her surroundings superbly. She can portray anything she things you want to see. She wants to please people. She may, like all immature children, has a selfish side to her that can cause her to become enraged when she feels she has been treated unfairly. (Real or imaginative.) Her underlying anger toward the challenging live has had, will cause her to act out violently to even the people she loves very dearly. She will clam up when she knows she is cornered. She may often become a victim to people who are mental and physically stronger then her. In Day to day interactions, I believe she is a care free easy going 17 year old. Who loves attention and companionship at any cost.
She(misty)has publicly degraded herself, no one made her do what she does. Come on now. For all the stuff she’s done is of her own doing, quit making excuses for her. Whether she knows anything or not a caring person would not behave the way she has when a missing child is involved.
And listen to this IRONY — I used to live in Jacksonville, working at home. Every few days or so, a police helicopter would show up circling around overhead. I saw one of Duval County’s finest outside one day and asked what was going on, as I thought some major criminal/murderer was on the loose. No, as it turns out, they had a police helicopter (imagine the expense) out there looking for a couple of kids who were SKIPPING SCHOOL!!! This is no joke! I was incredulous, and asked WHY?? The reply was — they figure that kids skipping school were up to no good and would be getting into trouble. I am not making this up.
Why the divorce? Why now? I think that Ron will try and pin this all on Misty to save his own a**. I don’t believe she acted alone, no. Maybe out of love or fear or both. Does anyone know why Mr. Sapp is currently incarcerated? The situation around him seems really unnerving. How in the hell would anyone allow a SO to live in their home around their children. Another thing, if Ronald made the comment that all he needed was $35,000 to get Haleigh back, does he know who has her? This is really crazy!
Lawshrink, that sounds very probable.
MOM2babies, some really good questions. Really boggles the mind. I would like to hear more about Sapp. I was not aware that he has been incarcerated.
Lawshrienk, pretty good profiling.
Misty was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I don’t believe Misty was given a message, that is funny.
I think it was for money purposes. She choose a chatty friend, that is also amusing. Where is her cell phone?
Why didn’t they call for help from their cell phones instead of driving away leaving the third person? Was the third person inside making the deal?
What about Chad Eugene Reynolds, the SO who went missing at about the same time as Haleigh? I would think that finding him would be at the top of the list, but he is still missing.
I just read that his offense occurred in Putnam County in 2002, and the article also suggested that Ron probably knew/knows many unsavory characters. So, it is possible . . . does anyone know any more about this?
All I can say is they (misty and ron) are doing a hell of a good job of mixing things up and keeping LE’s head spinning like crazy. The blind leading the blind kind of thing. I see people get arrested on cops for giving false information or with holding information. An exception for this couple I guess. So all you have to do when you murder someone is to hide the body where it will never be found, and answer to the cops “I don’t know” and you will never be prosecuted? Even though you were the last to be seen with that person. No wonder there are so many murders now a days its so easy to get away with it.
Silva, according to Art Harris.com , her cell phone must of been in her purse. Misty had to go get a new one on tuesday. The third person was said to be hiding and police later found her inside of an apartment there and questioned her. This would be the 22 year old.
Crazy, Very Sad But True. 🙁
Misty is going to get a new cell phone. Interesting who is getting it for her. I had to show ID to get mine and even when I run in to pay the bill I half to show picture ID. I am persuming her ID was in the purse that was stolen.
If Misty and Ronald are able to mix things up and keep PCLE heads spinning, what could someone of just average intelligence do to them?
This is absolutely crazy, and should have been solved a long time ago. If LE knew so much more, why no arrests? I don’t think they know anything more than what’s already been brought out. And I also think that if there weren’t people who cared about her blogging about this, that Haleigh Cummings would now just be a fading memory.
Up here if your cell phone gets stolen, they replace it for free.
Not sure who is purchasing it for her.
crazy @ 11:06 – I think it’s premature to prosecute Misty for Haleigh’s disappearance (if that’s what you mean). What if she got off – lack of evidence – and THEN the body was found?
There is no statute of limitations on murder or a number of the other possibilities so LE can let her run around all they want until they’ve got enough to make it stick. That is – IF she’s guilty of it.
And, yes, I have heard of people reporting to the cops that someone stole their illegal drugs. Some of these people are more stupid than hollowed out pumpkin heads!
They replace my cell if it is stolen or breaks or I would run over it, but I carry insurance on it for 5.00 a month. But I would still half to show some ID that it is me getting the replacement.
I believe the challenge with L.E. and Ron and Misty is;
It’s like playing chess with someone who really doesn’t know how to play. They don’t make logical moves. Therefore, it is very hard to get an angle on them. Good police work is all about getting that angle on someone and playing it to the end.
LawShrink: that is a very good point. the behavior of those involved is so bizarre, how do you get through to them?
I’m convinced that Misty has local LE to thank for Ron proposing marriage to her. Of course it took a public outcry about him shacking up with an underage girl that put LE in the embarrassing position of having to enforce the law – by putting a word in Ron’s ear that he better do right by her or they’d have to arrest him. I’m sure that’s what happened. Plus Ron and Misty were scheduled to go to NY to be on a TV show which would have constituted taking a minor across state lines – so by marrying her before that (remember the rush?) he avoided more charges.
And there was a public outcry about Misty being seen driving around without a license so then she goes to get one.
Did anyone in PCSO go to “police school?” Do they have any idea what the laws are?
I believe that a lot of people in that area (like Misty’s family) have had a “way of life” handed down from generation to generation that is responsible for all of this BUT IT IS LE’s JOB to break that cycle! It is the community’s job, too. And the schools and social services. So why don’t they do it? I really don’t understand.
working1 – You said, “I also think that if there weren’t people who cared about her blogging about this, that Haleigh Cummings would now just be a fading memory.”
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I agree. And we should ask why? Incompetent, shoddy police work from the start? (Yes IMO).
A “conspiracy of silence?” (Possibly). Someone in a position of power (behind the scenes perhaps) helping to hide what really happened?
(Also possible IMO)
Well here is one for you, worked in a prison system up north for 10 years as a shrink, REFUSED to stamp my approval on child molesters to be paroled. I was asked to except an early retirement or be fired. Even thou all my education taught me that sexual offenders will reoffend repeatedly and it will escalate.
I think they need to get a cold case expert/profiler to “help” PCSO now – not later – someone who can see through all the bizarre behavior/diversionary tactics while everyone is still around (although they’ll all probably still be there 20 years from now).
8 months, no leads, no arrests, no nothing – that’s a cold case, isn’t it?
Rest assures Profiling has already been done in this case. That is one of the first thing they due. And I will bet you most of the people around there fit the profile.
m2c you have good points and good questions. I partly understand that “way of life” mentality. I have relatives that live it and it does go generation to generation. Just as my son’s were taught to never get behind a wheel of an auto. without having proper license and auto ins. They always had responsibilities. I have niece’s that never worried about it. They live in a podunk county. Their mom is on probation for drugs and has driven them to school with no license or insurance all their life. They just look at it like it is something they can’t afford and go right on. IT doesn’t seem to register there with any of them until something really bad happens and then it all caves in on them. These kids do develop a survival mentality that they become very good at, they had to. It was either cave in, become a mental vegetable or learn how to make it. It is so wrong but so true that they really don’t comprehend the other way to live. Sad!
LawShrink – and here we are, with the Philip Garrido’s being let out who had a “life” sentence. What a terrible position you must have been in.
Since you left there, and they supposedly found someone who would approve the releases of child molesters – have you looked whether some of them have gone on to repeat their offenses?
Yes, and I can say with a broken heart, all of them have. 🙁
Lawshrink, I am sorry it cost you your job, that is a huge injustice. I ADMIRE you for sticking to it and doing the right thing. The one’s you delayed from getting out you don’t know how many victims you saved from rape and abuse. I thank you on their behalf. I hope your life has been blessed since your retirement.
m2c i have thought some of the same things myself. Thanks for posting it out loud.
Now I work with the court system for the State of Florida with profiling, and working emotionally traumatized children of crime and victims of crime. I love my job now and petition congress any chance I can to change the laws on sexual predator.
How sickening – and if you went back there and pointed out how many lives were destroyed because of their decision to parole, they would not care – not at all.
I heard the other day that “Law and Order” was going to do a show based on the wrong-way drunk driver — too bad “Criminal Minds” couldn’t do Haleigh’s story. Sounds silly, but I bet with the FBI consultants and profilers they have to work with on the show, they could solve this case.
Starring Brad and Angelina as Ron and Misty.
They sickest thing they would say to me was ”they have their rights” that uses to really make me upset. What about the Victims rights???
working1 – I have not kept up with the wrong way driver – the mom in upstate NY, right? If folks will pardon the temporary off-topic can you catch me up on that? The last I heard her family was having her body exhumed for independent testing.
Unfortunately, working1, as someone else said, I’m afraid that there are a LOT of people in that area that would “fit the profile.” And I’m not just talking about SO’s. There ARE other possibilities. Also, not every SO is KNOWN to be one! A lot of them just haven’t been caught yet!
LawShrink, I am thrilled you are in that position. I am sure you are great with those kids. I am also sure you have to hear alot of painful things, thank you for doing that. I admire you but I don’t know if I could do it. I am sure it is hard to sleep sometimes.
Thank you thank you, but it is truely all about the kids
Working1, you are so right! It sometimes seems as though the perps have more rights than the victim. Really bizarre!
I love Criminal Minds as well. It is all based on Quantico behavioral analysis.
LAWSHRINK, I am glad you found a place to better serve the victims. I also live in Florida. Volusia county.
I did a search last night to find SOs in a 5-mile radius of my house – I’m in SW Florida in a fairly wealthy area (I stick out like a sore thumb). There were 63!
I think I remember in Haleigh’s neighborhood, there were about the same amount? Are these numbers inordinate? I was looking at some of the cases, and a lot had occurred up north. Low life comes rolling down to sunny FLA.
LawShrink: Yes that makes me sick too. I think the problem is that the public has not vehemently condemned sexual offences enough – raised them to the level of as serious as murder for example. We don’t give enough consideration to the damage that is done to the victim. AND there is NO consideration given to future victims. In other words, we don’t really value our children enough. At least that’s what the law seems to reflect.
BTW – If ever we were going to have longer prison sentences (preferably life) for sex offences I would definitely want to see a clear identification of what kind of sex offences. It won’t work or the law won’t last otherwise. It has to be “just” as in “justice.” Not life for an 18 yr old and 17 yr old (who were probably consensual). But definitely life for a grown man and a 13 year old for example. But each case would have to be looked at individually. There would still be plenty to get life – and NO PAROLE!
I just wish I could do more for Haleigh!!
Also not criticizing L.E. but when you watch the way they search the woods and they should have had a real human tracker first. They are a real asset to any child that has gone missing near wooded areas.
Working1, I think we maybe in the same county, and let me give you some inside info, this county very seldom will let out that a child is missing till in my thoughts it is to late.
m2C – I heard they were going to do that also (exhume), but nothing since. Some people are in an uproar about using the death of children to make a TV show.
m2c I agree with you. The more liberal we have gotten as a country the more sex crimes have increased. The more we say porn is ok, the less child sexual abuse is frowned on. It is sad, how far we have slid from “Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn” to today anything goes.
Just a bit of info:
Sexual Offenders: are mostly one time offenders,
Sexual predators are repeat offender or ones that prey on the younger children and are violent.
LawShrink – I am in Sarasota County — why, oh why, when a child is missing, would they NOT want to get that out ASAP???
I still have family and friends in the Jax/Orange Park area, and I have heard that they didn’t put out an Amber Alert until the next day on little Somer —
WHY in the world didn’t LE in Clay County let EVERYONE know about the first abduction attempt last week? Do they think it would tarnish their “image”???
If I had been there and knew about the 1st attempt, I would have, as a private citizen on my own, contacted the school, parents, put up signs on telephone poles — but then, the ones that knew were probably thinking that LE would do all of that . . .
Working1, I am way more south.
But Amber Alert, that another law that needs changing Amber alert, As soon as a child is miss they need to put it out. They need to start a roadblock and everything just like Code Adams at Walmart.
LawShrink:
I believe you read Misty accurately. Everyone keeps saying she’s not smart enough to fool the whole police Dpt. and FBI. It doesn’t take much smarts to know how to say I don’t know. I was asleep and then clam up and refuse to talk.
I don’t think she did anything, directly to harm Haleigh, but something could have happened while she was in a drug induced state and, then, she panicked. So many things could have happened that I wouldn’t even speculate, too much, on it until there is more proof.
I would like to say, after LE tests that bottle of pills they found on the robbery scene, there could, possibly, still be some arrests.
LawShrink @ 12:20. That’s good info and I appreciate it. Is there a way to distinguish the two – the type of crime or something? I guess we’re using the term “SO” incorrectly or loosely here?
It’s also the kind of thing I’m talking about in relation to trying to get the real threats permanently out of society. I guess they would be the predators. If the public is confused about that then the wrong people are put away (or not put away) and eventually that can weaken or destroy the effort of any new laws to keep them locked up for good.
Thank you Karen.
Me Trying to help the Children.
I get in a lot of trouble in the counties where I live and other townships because I will stop children who are walking alone and not under adult supervision and give them flyers for their parents that tells them the dangers of letting their child be unsupervised. I also let school and parents in the area know about any strange activities in the area that may jeopardize their child.
LawShrink: I love it. You “get in trouble!” I believe it! There are some parents who you do not DARE question the “perfect” way they are raising their “perfect” children! And there are other parents who firmly believe “it will never happen to me.” They’re right. It will happen to their CHILD! What idiots!
Most of the State Websites will put a Red Box around the Predators picture, and they “the Predators” have a huge amount of other rules then the Sexual offenders.
The trouble is these categorize are only based on the one the Sexual Offenders have been convicted of. THEREFORE, they may have more that are unknown and are truly Predators also.
Predators are checked on more, by their P.O.s (Probation Officers.)
Some counties are suppose to alert everyone in the neighborhood when a predator moves in. BUT THEY SELDOM DO.
I hang their poster up everywhere.
I know I know, I am violating sexual predators’ rights,
If I have to sit in jail over night for it, I will do it. To save even one child from a sexual predator. It would be worth it.
I think the sex offender registry needs to be changed to some sort of a ranking system. it might help save LE some time in these cases when children go missing.
My understanding is right now anyone arrested for a sexual offence such as a 19 yr old dating a 15 year old can be labeled as a sex offender and required to register as such for life. In my area (IL) to be deemed a sexual predator there must be several offences (WTH?)and they are ruled as such by the courts.
I am not in the legal system so maybe some states have addressed this. I’m not saying all sexual offenders shouldn’t be held accountable but it seems resources are limited as it is and could be used more effectively.
LawShrink, Kudos! You keep right on offending those predators rights! I sure hope you DON”T have to spend the night in jail….that would be the ultimate irony!
I think it is time the citizens down there and everywhere start making a stink about the way the justice system handles repeat sexual offenders. Demand justice for these kids, too many are disappearing. I can’t imagine all the parents who are left to wonder where there children are and what they may have or had to live through.
One person can make a change. Start a group, band together and force the government to address the situation. Create a movement that can’t be ignored. The people of Putnam should be lobbying the state to get involved and fix whatever is wrong down there.
All the things we talk about on here, people walking in and out of jail like its a joke. No wonder so many are breaking the law, why not? All the charges dropped against Ron, how do you get off on possession anyway? Either they caught you with it or they didn’t, come on. Something stinks in Putnam county and it is time residents there start demanding better.
If there are enough people asking the right questions and shining enough light in the dark corners, you won’t be ignored.
WOW, Am I understanding correctly that the attempt that was made last week to lure a child into a car in the Orange Park area wasn’t publicized? Was it reported to LE before Somer was taken or not until after? This has happened in my school district and it was on the news and the school personally notified the parents of all the children in their district so they could take special precautions. That is wrong wrong wrong!
There should be laws that limit their ability to live within a certain distance from schools. I also think teachers and bus drivers should have to have an annual meeting to discuss the whereabouts of certain individuals on their bus routes like watch zones for the drivers, even put up watch zone signs at dropoffs if the zone has more than a usual number s.o. ,so parents know which zones are safe to walk from and which ones arent.
As for the robbery at the Ragsdale apartments. I have seen 3 different media reports and all 3 have different accounts…go figure.
I don’t for a second believe the third girl chased after the offenders unless she knew them.
It doesn’t surprise me she would report they went there to buy drugs.First off, you won’t be arrested for that. Second, She probably wasn’t too thrilled her connection had apparently taken off with their $$ or the that the girls took off and left her.
I don’t think it was a message to Misty or a set-up, it is more likely a crime of opportunity. If Misty wasn’t involved noone would hear about such a petty crime.
make the watch zone symbol recognizable through a letter to parents each year and the annual bus driver/teacher meeting. ex. could be a small sign added at the bottom of the stop sign with a triangle in red for area w/ high number of s.o. in thae area to yellow to green if under a certain number and upgraded yearly after determining the area status of profiled s.o. When people in the area see their signs turning red they are more likly to band together to ask for action from appropriate officials and wontallow their area to be overtaken as in the florida case. Make a law banning registered offenders from being able to purchase or rent in an area with a certain limit. They must go elsewhere as to not saturate an area and bring into dissaray!
These watch zones could easily be assembled at PTA meetings and brough to city officials attention. Back in the day. moms would go just once qaurterly but i’m not sure these go on anymore. Might be wrong.
The Law in Florida for Sexual Offenders and Predators
1. Are not allowed to live with a 1000 feet of schools.
2. They are not allowed to go to public beaches and public parks.
3. You can sign up for emails to be sent to you for your area if one moves in
4. They have to report to P.O. every month.
5. P.O. visits their work at random, and their home.
6. Pictures and address are done every 6 months.
But NONE OF THIS STOPS THEM!!!
8. They also cannot poses children toys, clothing anything that has to do with children
9. They cannot have any contact with children even the one that they are related too.
10. Must donate DNA samples
11. They can be searched at anytime without an warrant.
12. Must register in any count that they even go to visit.
13. Are not allowed to posses occupational licenses
14. Cannot have a job where the need to enter peoples homes.
opps, 12. county
It doesn’t stop them because citizens are unaware. If Every stop sign had a 2 mile radius status done and the signs went all red, I think the “citizens” would stop them. To assume the “criminal” will stop is unrealistic. it is the citzens awareness that will prevent them. the crimninal will always try.
Enough about S.O.!!
How can we help to find Haleigh Cummings?
I think the laws you have stated LawShrink are pretty much universal. It seems pretty obvious there is an enforcement problem.
Before today I took comfort knowing that, here in IL, once deemed a predator you could be held in jail indefinately until deemed “safe” to be released, and they were then monitered closely. It is crazy the Department of Corrections can override the opinion of the very people hired to evaluate these monsters.
We just need to keep sexual predator locked up!!
I taught my children from day one to be “to smart for strangers” and my brother made them personal alarms on chain. Nevertheless, how does this stop the person from coming in to a Childs room at night as they sleep and snatching them?
No signs, laws, will stop this type. They need life in prison.
IF each school district was in charge of the stop signs its zone , it could easily be achieved with a few PTA members. The signs are not for the “criminals” to scare them away but for the “citizens” awareness. I am totally unaware of the number of S.o.’s in my area but a simple letter each year ,one to every parent registered in the district reminding them what the sign under the stop sign means would put the “eye” out. The watch zone signs now dont do any good because they dont have a meaning and are made to scare the ” criminal”. Thats why they dont work. I bet if you stopped at three stop signs in a row and noticed each one had the red status below it you’d be ” aware” quicker than before what area you were driving through.
Your Right Mel22, I wish we could enact this policy!!
They get snatched because the area is saturated with them and noone is watching or aware of the areas situation so the area becomes degraded! More people get snatched in areas that are saturated with criminal activity. more drugs and murder happen in areas saturated with felons. more kidnappings happen in areas saturated with S.o.’s The whole point is to not let them saturate an area. Thats all. As far as finding Haleigh i’ve been looking up county recors on all sorts of people but this forum is more geared towards wellwishers rather than investigators. the forum to be in is SM if you want to collaborate some info. Wasnt trying to argue with anyone . Just entitling myself to my opinion and trying to get others to come up with ideas on how to get “involved”. No need for people to get upset over what I wrote. Its just my opinion.
What is SM Forum?
And I am not Upset. I like your Ideas.
So anyway, using google earths ruler tool Hank’s ” tommy” trailer is 420 yards away from Haleighs home And Billye griffis and donald sapp trailere is 2 miles away for anyone who was wondering last night on the other stub.
LS, yeah ok no prob , just sounded like you were saying shut up about so’s in a nice way even though i didnt bring up the subject first but anyway sm is scaredmonkeys. com The people there are geared toward swapping photos and links for investigating and making aware the players involved so the presuure can be put on the right people.This forum has gotten me a lot of info too but on SM you can share pictures from google eareth and collaborate links easier.
OK, No, I never get upset. LOL 🙂
Just work with them (S.O.) to much.
Katfish –
You are correct about the little girl missing in Orange Park. I spoke with a friend who lives in Jax this afternoon — the child in the attempted abduction was 5 years old, riding her bike in the afternoon, one block from where Somer was taken. A car pulled up to the little girl, and an adult nearby noticed that they (1 woman, 2 men) in a car were trying to talk to the child (I’m not sure what else). The little girl looked frightened and started pedaling her bike faster like she was trying to get away. The woman who witnessed this went to the little girl and asked if she knew them, and the car sped away.
Yesterday, the day after Somer went missing, ONE WEEK after the 5-year-old attempted abduction, LE gave the info up and then posted a picture of a blue car that the witness had described. Now, this afternoon, Clay Co LE say the owner of that car has been found and has nothing to do with the attempted abduction last week.
Does that make sense to ANYBODY??? If they say they found the car and it’s not connected to what happened — THAT’S NOT THE RIGHT CAR THEN!!! The witness is an adult woman who was right there! She wasn’t sure of the exact make, but described it and it was blue and a certain style. But, apparently LE is saying the car they found and owner aren’t connected to the case – then go look for another one! JEEZ!
Chad E. was released on bond yesterday at 7:30. according to the log.Sat there for three days. Must’ve had some things to talk about. Dont think LE will let out any info though anytime soon about what was said , so as not to taint the investigation.
I hear ya LS, i wouldnt be able to handle your job . I applaud you. i must’ve just taken the wording wrong .LOL
There’s so many Chad’s to keep track of there in Satsuma, it kinda reminds me of Larry, Darryl, and Darryl.
The only problem with the Orange Park case is there are so many blue cars of each make, that without a plate number it would be almost impossible. They need to get GPS chips embedded in the soles of kids shoes so they can be tracked in an emergency unless of couse their shoes are tossed out. Or embedded in the stitching of a backpack! even if they were thrown out it would give the general starting path of the perpetrator.
I just got a call from my friend in Jax – the news is saying that a child’s body has been found in a landfill in Georgia, and that Somer’s parents have been notified. They aren’t saying it is her, but that the parents have been notified.
And each Darryl probably has a son Darryl Jr. who each go by their middle name ” Timmy” and ” Tommy” making it more confusing.
Well at least theres “good” news today if you can call finding a dead body good news. At least the family will have closure to this.
mel22 –
and probably no shortages of “Juniors” either.
Well, this makes it a little worse – the landfill where they found the little body is the place where they dump the garbage from Orange Park.
Must be a tough thing for an investigator to find a body and get all excited that they solved the case and then in the same breath realize they were too little too late to save them alive.
I cant beleive theres people in the world who “literally” treat other people like they are trash. Especially little innocent kids. The punishment should be to be killed and thrown in the garbage the same way they did. no burial just thrown in like the heap of pedophile trash they are. Makes me sick !!!
And they’re roaming among us every day! It could very well have been the person standing in line in front of you at 7-11!
Well, Charlie Crist is in Orange Park and he just said that crime in Florida is down 7% – but what type of crime? Uhh, is he including crimes against children??
Dedecee,
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought it was cool to hear on the broadcast yesterday that the residents on that street were cheering on LE as they rounded up those 10 idiots and lined them up against the fence. Must’ve been a sight!
does this story surprise anyone…the poor girl is a pathological lier and she is in need of serious help with her drug issues. I truly believe she is responsible in some way to the disappearance of little HaLeigh, and i pray that she realizes what she is becoming and gets help and maybe then we will find HaLeigh. We hope.
Mel22 @ 3:49 and working1 @ 3:53 = LOL glad I’m not alone in confusing these names.
Just love Hank Sr’s description of Misty being so hungry and the meals he treated her to. She was starving, yet, she doesn’t smoke POT.. ANYMORE!!!
This is just me, maybe I read wrong on Art, but how many times did she go to the hospital? I’m wondering if she was prescribed some more anti-anxiety meds for this episode!!
I could just slap them all.
working1 said,in October 21st, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Well, this makes it a little worse – the landfill where they found the little body is the place where they dump the garbage from Orange Park.
awww…man! hate to hear that. Mark klaas said last night on NG if a pedophile takes a child they are usually dead within 3 hours.
Haleigh ran through my mind when you said a child’s body was found in Georgia….IIRC there have been sightings or a connection there with family….and then I realized if it was HC after this amount of time there wouldn’t be a body. :`(
The garbage from Orange park is dumped in Georgia?
How about these children not walking home by themeselves how about have an adult with them at all times? I walked my son to and from school on post and off post I didnt or want to take no chances, I even got even over protected after my son died to over protected. Even if the parent isnt a stay at home parent how about a friend but an adult to walk with these children.
As a community we need to pull together to protect our children the best that we can. I still see parents in my neighborhood up at the bus stops from elemenatry to middle school. Some how we need to come up with something.
All these sex offenders shouldnt be getting a smack on the wrist either. We need tougher crimes for these clowns cause once they get out half or not all of them go and do the same crime again and they get another slapped on the wrist come on tougher laws need to happened.
There are so many missing children around the States. There is another girl who went to a concert that isnt here in florida that is missing I know lately it seems like florida has been like a darn target for missing children. My thoughts and prayers are with every parent out their with a missing child.
Hank “Tommy” Sr. — didn’t he report his illegal stash of prescription drugs were stolen a couple of weeks ago?
I dont get it if Misty left Haleigh in the house or Jr by themselves that isnt a crime bs. Children that age shouldnt be in a home by themselves without an adult in the house. This girl should know right from wrong. Yes her parents should be arrested cause she wasnt in school. Ron should be arrested for statue rape as well. But there is no charges going no where.
Where is all these quotes about Hank Sr coming from? I heard he was back in Putnum Co….but that was the last i heard. ?????
gatorgirl — absolutely right! But the thing is, if LE had notified the public LAST WEEK about the other possible (it turns out they may have been trying to help her, but I have doubts about that) abduction — maybe Somer wouldn’t have been just walking home with her 10-year-old sister and twin brother, you know?!! Maybe if warned her parents could have taken precautions.
katfish – yes. Now, LE said they always, as a matter of routine, check the landfill where the trash is dumped, and then he said, nearly in the same breath, that they followed the trash truck up there on a “hunch”.
The thing is, if it was a dumpster where they got the trash from, they can see where it was picked up. From where Somer was taken, they could have easily just gone up Kingsley to the interstate, taken her over to the West Side very quickly, and dumped her in a dumpster over there.
Georgia Bureau of Invest. has confirmed it is a girl’s body . .
Not all people in florida are bad people. I live in florida not all counties are that bad. I know other counties may give a bad look to every county but I can tell you when a child misses so many days at school they call your home they ask questions. My son last year was out of school for a week sick. They called me cause I forgot to call them I was worried about my son not calling some darn school to report he was sick. Once he got better send in a doctor’s note. They are strick here from what I can tell I have been living here for three years now. You can get arrested and I have been told they would arrest you.
As for parents killing their children I dont or cant understand why anyone would harm a child or their own children I havent yet understand that and instead of being responsiblie for the child’s death they blame other people the devil, satan, the babysiter when they are at fault. But they only get a slap on the wrist when I believe if you murder someone you should get the same punishment.
Hank Sr. reported to LE at the beginning of October that his 140 Lortabs had been stolen.
Lawshrink,
I agree with you but that used their own rights when they commited this crimes something needs to be done tougher laws or something.
NOT everyone in florida are evil…
Kat,
It may be a sore spot for some… but ArtHarris.com, has an interview with Sr. He talks about Misty’s latest drama. He also asked her about HaLeigh.
Not to go back to Misty’s HaLeigh 911 call, but if you listen to the Drug Buy Gone Badd 911 call, she clearly states My Car in the beginning,…(some ? that she lied with Our Daughter comment)
Also she says, why would she bring us here if they were gonna f–king robb us.. (something like that)… Hmmmmmm
Thanks cent….I don’t travel over there much…not for any particular reason other than the “vibe of his reports” sit funny. I have heard rumors but they have nothing to do with my vibe. LOL Do I make sense? I’ll check it out.
working1….I don’t trust Hank Sr. any more than the rest of the “clan”….hmmm wonder if medicare will replace stolen drugs….seems like this has happened before.
gatorgirl- Of course not everyone in Florida is evil. Half of my family has moved to the Tampa/Clearwater area this past year and they LOVE IT! There are dumb asses everywhere…I wish ya’ll had the corner on the market. LOL
Hi, “cent”!
Did you ever find the video of the walk thru? On the other thread, someone left you info on how to find it.
I did post on the other thread this a.m. but have been gone most of the day and have not checked the other thread.
Kat, you’re welcome
Hi, Justice
Yes, I saw it posted… thanks.
Yeah..like she “didn’t know “she was “there to buy drugs”
Sure,she was there to drop a meal for the elderly with the Meals on wheels program.
Misty,Misty Misty.
If you wanna be”left alone” quit putting yourself in the spotlight car chases,drug deals gone bad etc .
keep your legs shut and your nose clean.
Don’t be like your mama Popeye the crypt keeper.Look how rugged she looks for her age and how little she has to show for her self.
A life of drugs will do that.
FYI, I posted the link to the videos (5) of the Nancy Grace walk thru of the Cummings Mobile home over on the Haleigh Cummings sticky thread on the BNN forum so people don’t have to go back through stories looking for it in the future.
I also posted a link to the Oct.2 video of the update interview on the case by the PCSO on the general discussion thread.
Here is a link to the BNN forum:
http://z3.invisionfree.com/Blogger_News/index.php?act=SC&c=2
HollysGmom has posted some awesome links on the sticky thread for those who like to do research.
katfish – can you imagine anyone writing a prescription for 140 Lortabs for anything??? these people are so stupid! I read somewhere that Lortabs go for $8 apiece.
mamma Popeye the crypt keeper (I love that one) — she looks 60 and has no teeth. And a life of drugs will also cause you to neglect your children – maybe someone needs to drill that into Misty’s head since she loves kids so much! Mamma Popeye is so quick to throw her daughter under the bus — imagine, just imagine, how she was when Misty was 5, 7, 10 years old. She’s a lost soul, in my opinion, but she can recover if the right people are in her life and she’s out of that cesspool.
Everytime I see M-PECK….
(mama popeye crypt keeper), I thank my lucky stars… I’m 38 yr and I can’t imagine what her body is going thru… Honestly, I’m sadden for her, although she is the cause of her looks…
Art/Hank Sr. says she put on about 10lbs… I really would like to see her with a bit of weight on.
Never the less.. PORCELAIN… That was a GOOD ONE!!!
Well guess Misty got her divorce and now she wants to party,what the hell she got to cut lose because he has know control on her now.Maybe she’ll get high and talk to someone and tell what happen.I would not be a bit surpised if this is not another set up.She really needs to get a friend and I don’t mesn like the ones using her to get info,but one that will get her off the street and help her get help(mental),and help her to stay off the drugs.She might see the light and talk,I think she has been used so much by people she don’t know which way to go.LE should take her off the street and do something.This story sounds so fishy and set up.I wish evertone would just concentrate on HALEIGH.Look how Somers famliy acted,and everyone pulled together,sad the way it turned out though.God rest her soul.Praying for her family and her tonight.Sweet little Butterfly.
D Kerr – you are so right.
As for Somer’s family – I sent an e-mail tonight before the show begging Jane Velez Mitchell to mention and not let it be swept under the rug about the potential attempted abduction last week that apparently was not looked into by Clay County LE. I couldn’t get through on the phone, but I sent an e-mail earlier, and Jane seemed surprised and brought it up to the reporter from Jax — she apparently did not know about the case the week before, but said that if everyone had been on high alert, this may have not happened! And that’s the truth! Yeah, Jane!
And then I sent an e-mail to Charlie Crist — children should NOT have to live outside a 2-mile radius to be provided bus transportation. We live in a different world and Somer walked by preditor after preditor on her way to and from school. I know she had her 10-year-old sister with her, but ANYONE could pull up and grab a child, and no one could stop them.
We need to provide safe transportation to and from school, no matter what the cost. But in this case, Clay County needs to account for WHY they didn’t report the previous abduction attempt immediately. Charlie Crist was at the news conference in Orange Park; he needs to follow-up on this gross, tragic negligence. I will let you know his response if I get one.
I hope others from the Orange Park area (and everywhere really) don’t let this go.
Okay, I have a question about this map for sex offenders. I put in my town. Only 2 came up but aren’t really close to me at all. Then it has a list of offenders that do not show on the map, why?
15 offenders don’t know up on the map. 5 of them are in jail. They have address for the other 10, but am I suppose to look each one up or what?
What is wrong with the police here. Misty gets away with murder. This girl can lie and they all take her word. Proven liar, yet they believe her story of someone coming in the night to take this child. What is wrong with these people. How many lies has she told thus far, Yet the cops say she is not a suscept. A child is missing. How long? This girl tells lie after lie. I feel so sorry for this baby. Misty must know someone on this force, because she is the one to call the police. Would she not be afraid because they would question her and this is the second time they had their chance. yet they question her mom her brother. But not her. She must have something on the cops. This girl has know fear of the cops what so ever.
Thank You working1,if more people would get involved this kind of stuff would stop.My self I keep a close eye around my area,anything and I mean anything that does not look right I check on,if it don’t look right and scares me,or out of the normal I am on the phone,I let everyone in on it,first police then others around me.We all have bats.Which I keep at every gate,inside my main door,and around the yard.We have a gun if needed.Just let anyone mess around my home or a child here they sure will wish they were some place else.Drug dealers beware,I am on top of that too.We have cleaned up around here on that too.We put up alarms in the yard,got a dog,who lets us know if someone comes in the yard.Come in my place and your not welcome,pay the price.And the childrens bus stop is in front of my house.we are out to meet them each day.Had to fight for the bus stop but I got it.Please parents don’t let your children walk without you or another adult you trust.Please keep an eye out.My Grandson isn’t aloud to be out doors without an adult,if we come in so does he.We have a privates fence around the back yard,but still the rule applies.simple rules saves our children.Never alone.
Ron’s attorney on Nancy Grace, acting as if Ron never knew Misty did Drugs… atleast that is the impression I got from his response to DRUG DEAL GONE BADD!!!
I understand protecting your client, but DAMN… come on enough is enough!!!
By the way… anyone know what ever happened to Misty making a statement a few weeks ago??
Wonder if her attorney will be dumping her again!!!
HAS ANY OTHER POLICE DEPT. QUESTION HOW THINGS ARE HANDLED IN SASUMA COUNTY. THERE IS SOMETHING REALLY WRONG WITH THE WAY THESE PEOPLE GET OFF WITH THINGS. DRUGS, RAPE( RON,MISTY UNDER AGE) GETTING HIGH, NO DRUG TEST, NO ARREST. THE CPOS THERE MUST BE DOING DRUGS TOO. THAT BABY SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOUND, AND MISTY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN JAIL A LONG TIME AGO. MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN JAILED WITHOUT A BODY. HER LIES ALONE IS ENOUGH. HOW CAN YOU SAY NO EVIDENCE, WHEN A CHILD HAS NOT BEEN IN HER HOME ALL THIS TIME. A BABY IS MISSING. PLEASE TELL ME THIS CHILD HAD SOME WORTH. CAUSE THIS COUNTY POLICE DEPT ISN’T DOING A DARN THING TO BRING JUSTICE FOR HER.
WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR CHILDREN CLOSE. THIS IS A DIFFERENT TIME. WHEN GROWN WOMEN ARE BEINF ABDUCTED, HOW DOES A SMALL CHILD STAND A CHANCE. NO CHILD SHOULD BE WALKING ANYWHERE ALONE. IF I DON’T TAKE THEM,THEY WILL NOT GO. SAVE IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN SORRY.AS FAR AS RON AND MISTY, THIS LIL GIRL-MISTY, SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN WATCHING THOSE CHILDREN. A 3 DAY DRUG BINGE, YET KNOE DRUG TEST AND SHE WAS ABLT TO BE IN THE HOME WITH JR. AND DCFS, CPS HAS NOT SAID A WORD. THIS COUNTY IS REALLY SAD, AND NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED.
Children in the state of Florida are expected to walk to school if they live within a 2-mile radius. Do you know how many preditors Somer and her brother and sister had to walk by to and from each day? And even if Somer had stayed with her 10-year-old sister and twin brother, do you think if someone pulled up beside them, that the 10-year-old could have done anything?
If LE in Clay County had put out a bulletin that there was an abduction attempt a week earlier, maybe Somer would be alive and sleeping right now.
She was found with her little legs sticking out of the garbage and at first they couldn’t tell if it was a boy or girl.
MsLiz, I understand you are frustrated and I agree there have been a number of things that I think should have been handled differently. However, you are saying a lot of misinformation. It is not a fact that Misty did anything wrong concerning Haleigh. To my knowledge the police have never said that Misty is not a suspect. They have repeatedly questioned her. She has probably been interrogated more hours than anyone. Just telling you this so you know.
Thanks, Treece
working1, Have they confirmed that it is indeed Somer?
Is that a fact that they couldn’t tell if she was a boy or girl?
amber alert came across my daughters tv a week ago stating amber alert for the following counties, but nothing about a boy or girl large or small nothing about who to look for etc great job in ohio some dumbie dropped the ball
Oh My, At the bottom of this article, it’s heart breaking and I have asked that very same question myself.
DEVELOPING: Body found in landfill. Is it Somer Thompson?
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October 21, 2009 9:53 PM
Juan Carlos Fanjul
JACKSONVILLE– The FBI, FDLE and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation are focusing on a landfill in Folkson, Georgia where the body of a child was found Wednesday Afternoon.
Right now police are trying to figure out if the body is little Somer Thompson.
“The body appears to be a of a small child. No positive ID at this time, the body was partially covered. All we could see were the lower extremities,” said Clay County Sheriff Rick Beseler.
The trash that goes to that southern Georgia landfill comes from her neighborhood in the Jacksonville area.
Her father, who lives in North Carolina, tells the Florida Times-Union newspaper that a birth mark on the body found at the landfill matches one on her daughter.
Somer went missing Monday afternoon after separating from her sister as they walked home from school.
Although they had no clues until now, cops suspected foul play all along.
For three days her mother has been agonizing over the dissapearance.
“I just want her to come home,” said a grief-stricken Diena Thompson hours before the body was found.
Her estranged husband, who’s heading back to Florida, feared this would happen.
“Why are 5 and 7-year-old’s walking almost a mile home from school? Especially in an area where there are so many sex offenders,” asked Samuel Thompson.
Authorities hope to have a positive identification by Thursday afternoon.
During the press conference, the police slipped a bit.. first he said it was a female, then said we don’t know / can’t confirm.
(I’m paraphrasing)
Tragic, tragic, tragic. We live in a broken world.
As if the mom is not racked with guilt already… Can’t even begin to think what the siblings are feeling!!
Wonder if the dad is going to try for custody for the remaining children?
So freakin sad, all the way around!!!!
MsLiz:
I agree with what you said about the kids being left with Misty in the shape she was in. On TV, she didn’t really look sober for days after Haleigh disappeared—Ron either, at times.
You know they are all out of their minds in regret. All of them wish they had done things differently. It is not their fault. It is the fault of a sick perverted creep who doesn’t deserve life.
Okay, I don’t want to assume anything here. But North Carolina isn’t far from Jacksonville area. And the landfill is on the way. The father states he feared this would happen, then states, “Why are 5 and 7-year-old’s walking almost a mile home from school? Especially in an area where there are so many sex offenders,”
Granted, we all have that very same question.
But he knew there were so many there and he feared this would happen. Obviously they are divorced or seperated. I hope this isn’t what I think it is.
PAW69:
It is sad when we have to suspect everybody. Isn’t it.
Cent: I do wonder about that interview that Misty was going to give. That will most likely be off since this robbery.
That jail in Satsuma has revolving doors, I believe. Misty will be in there before long, most likely.
Does anyone know what happened to Ron’s sister?
Wow, it looks like Misty is just begging to be put in jail. Out buying drugs when national media is focused on and reporting her every move? And her immediate family getting arrested one by one? I’m sticking to the theory that she won’t give out more info about Haleigh’s disappearance until she feels she has more protection.
Karon,
You mean the girl that wore that crazy looking un-be-weave/wig?
You know… I thought it was funny that pretty much everyone except GGM Sykes, M Teresa stopped showing up on camera. We didn’t even see much of Ron’s father,(besides Geraldo interview)
I wonder how close sissy and Ronnie boy really are.
Has anyone else heard the urgency in Misty’s voice during her 911 call. Sounds more distraught than on the one regarding HaLeigh.
Has anyone read that article “HaLeigh Cummings Mystery Feed Online Obsession”?
http://jacksonville.com/news/florida/2009-10-20/story/haleigh_cummings_mystery_feeds_online_obsession
Sorry, not good @links
Yesterday I just felt too blah to come on and I don’t even feel like catching up now, just wanted to skim through to see if there was anything new on Haleigh.
May God watch over all the children tonight and especiall be with Somer’s parents!
Nite!
To ‘cent’ (12:40 a.m.):
Yes, I heard the 911 tape and I agree with you that she sounds more distraught.
She was probably very stressed if she was in need of a drug fix.
cent:
Yeah I mean Cornrows Crystal.
I don’t think Ronald is even making any new appearances, every since Cobra let the cat out of the bag about Ronald might not be Haleigh’s bio dad. He had already made that Maury Povitch film by then. That is coming on today, Thursday. I don’t get that show, but maybe we can pick up some footage, somewhere.
After that Ronald’s lawyer started making the appearances for Ronald.
Justice:
I don’t know if you have this video of Ronald taking the Today show thru the trailer. It shows the computer and some other interesting things very clearly.
crime searcher online.com/index.php?…show=Ronald-Cummings…Today-show
HollysGmom
check your PM.
To Karon Cox (2:33 a.m.):
Thanks for the info, Karon. That is a neat site. All kinds of info!
Later….gone for the day!
I hope it does not turn out that misty was out looking for drugs the night Haleigh went missing?
Maybe she has been afraid to tell the truth all this time, maybe she left the children in the car sleeping and someone took Haleigh out of the car!
All you have to do is pass the wrong person and your child is gone! If she was running around all over with these children looking for drugs and these drug people knew it im sure alot of theses people know other people who like small children and for a price or drugs give out information!
This has became a very sick world, clue when they asked misty what they were doing there she did not tell the truth, its my understanding it was the other girl who told the truth about why they were there!
Yes misty has had a hard life alot of people have, but that don’t make her innocent! The innocent was HALEIGH!!!!!!!!!
Linda, I don’t think Misty had a car the night Haleigh went missing. I think she was home with both kids an no vehicle.
This doesn’t make sense to me that Misty was out buying drugs & got mugged & called police. Looking at the details sounds more like a set up than reality. Just food for thought. Treece
Morning Everyone
Good morning LawShrink, how will Somer’s family ever heal? Does her twin not feel like part of him died? It’s not the families fault but how will they ever get over the regret and guilt?
Hello everyone, new to posting but not to the site. In regards to our local LE & Misty buying drugs..my child who is in High School here in Putnam County came home on Tuesday, before this hit the news, telling me another kid at school was bragging about he had HaLeigh’s babysitter’s cell phone & how there was $300 in her purse (this kid probably lives in the apt. complex where this occured). I called the detective yesterday at 5:15pm & left her a VM concerning this & ya know what? It has been 17 hours since that call & I have had no call back. Makes me wonder is this the way the investigation has gone the past 8 months? Are they truly following up with leads? So many changes need to be implemented!
I have been in tears since last night, over this! This Family like many will never heel completely,
In addition, you are so correct Treece, The twin will surely have a very hard time with this.
Why oh Why won’t they change the laws!!!
I hope & pray they find the evil, pervert, murderer very soon.
I am really starting to believe in vigilantism, and eye for an eye.
Sorry I am Venting
Anyone know if there is going to be another news conference?
Changethe_system:
Now isn’t that something. No wonder crime is rampant there.
LawShrink, I understand your venting, if feel the same way. But even an eye for an eye wouldn’t bring justice to this family. Only the grace of God can put their lives back together. jmo
PAW69 — In Florida, if a child lives within a 2-mile radius of the school, the school bus will not give them transportation.
This needs to be changed immediately.
And I’m wondering — why was Charlie Crist at the news conference in Orange Park? Could they be expecting a backlash from NOT publicizing about the earlier possible attempt? I have also heard that he had the state attorney general with him.
Changethe_system, Is there any way you can go down there and raise hell with LE about this?
Also, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to have your son fill out a police report. That way it’s on record and if nothing gets done about this, they can be in hot water.
Florida obviously has some serious issues. Now I see why it takes LE months/years to get somewhere.
It looks to me that the LE in the Somer case didn’t waste time. A very sad ending, But they did do their job. Maybe Putnam County should take notes.
Change the system: go to the new thread and they have set up a new email tip line at the LE department.
PAW69- yes I can & I will. Another thing, when HaLeigh 1st went missing there was a pic. of her bio mom on the front page heading to some kind of conference. There was a guy behind her & obviously part of the family in some way. Both my mom & myself noticed the resemblance of this person- he looked JUST like the father of one of my old friends-who molested her & her sister as children. I am certainly not saying bio mom or this guy (if it was in fact him) are involved BUT this too was reported by both of us.I called the crime stoppers hot line for tips, she called the local LE office. We both expressed our concern & that this at least should be checked out. We left our names & #’s for detectives to call us & no reply.
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just here said…I reported it to the email link, per your thread. Thanks!
Changethe_system, I hope they listen to what you have to say and check it out. You may have some key tips that they seriously need to check into. If anything, keep bugging them about it until they respond to you. Like they always say, sometimes it’s the small things that people don’t realize it’s the 1 key they’ve been looking for. So maybe your one of those keys. We can only hope.
change the-, it is possible the LE checked it out but never called yall back. With all the tips they were given there is no way they would call very many back but they could have investigated who that man was. Not saying they did, but they could have. I am sure with 4000+ tips they didn’t return anyone’s calls unless they needed more info.
wonder how valuable that cell phone could be?
just here, your are right that cell phone could be very revealing. Wish it could get in LE’s hands.
It should when they find the kid who has it. Would be interesting if she’s really into texting like most 17 year old.
Since they found Somer’s body so fast by finding the landfill where the trash was dumped, does anyone know if they did that for Haleigh also?
I remember that the cadaver dogs picked up a sent at the dumpster — remember? Did they check this dumpster before it was emptied and went to the landfill? And then checked the landfill?
Yes they Checked Dumpster and Landfill,
The L.E. could even get old Deleted text messages off the phone Mistys, all the way back to Jan.2009 with special USB devise
Change the_system I hope you hound the heck out of them. They need to find out who it was behind the drug deal and robbery. I hear alot of folks from Putnam County state they believe their police force is crooked. I hope this is not true for Haleighs sake. The cell phone could be very important and for someone not to have a job to be carrying $300.00 in her purse.
I watched the Maury show. Ron and Teresa both seeming heart felt but nothing I picked up to shed a light on anything. They were very brief.
I will be leaving in 10 min for lunch & will head straight over to the SO. I wil let you all know the outcome.
Yeah i watched it such a beautiful child all of em are ron did have alot of emotion seemed like he meant it just wish we could know the truth
went to SO, they told me detective working the case was real busy yesterday & out today. Then they told me the Palatka Police is working the robbery case. I called & left another VM for another officer that is working this one. We will see. If I do not receive a return call from the PPD then I will go down there personally after work. May not be anything (what I have to say) but then again…
treece, it seems to me no one knows what happend in this case, how do you know someone could have picked them up! She may have been afraid to tell ron she was out buying drugs! This does prove one thing she takes drugs and will lie!!
looking for justice – Didn’t Misty just travel to NY or somewhere to do an interview? I bet that’s where her money is coming from.
Linda, you are right someone could have picked her up. To me this doesn’t prove that she does drugs because I see this a set up. But my opinion is that she does them and that she lies. I think they both just go with her lifestyle. I agree with you if she was out buying drugs and lost Haleigh that she would be afraid to tell Ron. You are so right no one knows and but we all wish they did. I so hope they solve this case. Thanks, treece
treece, I like sound of your name, pretty. I dont think i have heard that name before. Any way anyone could hit on the right anwser at anytime, but if tommy is telling the truth and she was not home we know ron was calling and got no anwser so where do you go from there, maybe haleigh was already gone and she was trying to come up with a plan! It could have been a set up! Poor baby, I pray they find her! Alive!
Who knows where Misty got her money. You are probably right though. What do you think she gave them ? A picture of Haleigh or perhaps an artificial red rose. I wish they could solve this. My mind is wondering just what Haleigh endured or if she o.k. where ever she may be. My heart is just so broken Over Somer Thompson and how she was disposed. If anyone knows anything I just want them to speak up! I just feel sick all over today.
Linda, thank you. I agree the truth could come out any day. I don’t have much faith in anything Tommy said because he didn’t say any of that until Misty put the restraining order against him, so it leaves it questionable to me.
I am 100% with you, I pray she is found alive. One truth we know for sure she is the innocent one. treece
Treece,
I don’t think what Tommy said about being at the trailer is questionable just because he didn’t tell it until after he and Misty were estranged.
While he and she were getting along, he was likely to protect her but since they weren’t getting along, it makes it more likely he would just tell the truth because he no longer is concerned about protecting her.
Actually, Treece, when people involved in crimes fallout with their partners, that is when they talk. Tommy’s not revealing he was at the trailer until after Misty had a restraining order put against him makes more sense than just assuming he is making it up.
I saw the Maury Show… and I am on the fence with this one. While I don’t believe Ron to be “directly” involved in the crime, I find him creepy. This could be because of all the other b/s and crazy antics he has pulled.
I have to say that there is no textbook on how to behave when this sort of crime occurs, but, I keep going back to the 911 call… I have no problem with him stating he’ll kill whoever has her. However, I don’t think you would focus on the prison time.
And I might get bashed for this one… I know the show is about an emotional subject matter, but why didn’t they wipe their eyes/faces. Almost like someone said let the tears run, it’ll look better.
I saw the Maury Show… and I am on the fence with this one. While I don’t believe Ron to be “directly” involved in the crime, I find him creepy. This could be because of all the other b/s and crazy antics he has pulled.
I have to say that there is no textbook on how to behave when this sort of crime occurs, but, I keep going back to the 911 call… I have no problem with him stating he’ll kill whoever has her. However, I don’t think you would focus on the prison time.
And I might get bashed for this one… I know the show is about an emotional subject matter, but why didn’t they wipe their eyes/faces. Almost like someone said let the tears run, it’ll look better.
I’m starting to wonder if the side show circus BS is just a way to bring out the “bad” in these people because LE has no cluewhere to turn because they sat on their duffs too long. There has been a string of missing kids being killed all through that part of Florida. I’m starting to wonder if they are all related. Including Haleigh. These predators are watching every movement of these little girls from age 5-9 so far. The predator(s) is/are going to make a mistake sooner or later though.
Paw,
It smells a little of the Atlanta Child Killings from the 80’s. So scary!!
Someone had already put out there 17 children missing/killed in the Orlando area this year. That’s a lot and that’s just the Orlando area. So yeah, that’s why I’m kinda going towards an epidemic direction here.
Yeah, Misty and Ron and Crystal are druggies, and have bad parenting skils, but it doesn’t make them murderers. Due to the lack of evidence if any at all, They go for the bottom feeders because they think they don’t have a leg to stand on because of their life style. So instead of doing their job, they run with something that just sounds good to them.
So Misty and Ron and Crystal didn’t respond the way we think they should have. And yeah, there is question on whether or not Misty was even home. 8 months later there is still nothing for the LE to even stand on.
BUT!, there are a lot of coincidental missing children in the upper 1/2 of Florida. Only a handful have been found. Where are the rest of them?
I’m sorry, but I really have to wonder how many other children from upper Florida have decomposed in that landfill due to poor police work. I keep going back to the cadaver dogs who picked something up at the dumpster by Ron’s house.
Paw,
It’s true that they didn’t respond the way the world would expect. I do feel at times my own judgement/thoughts gets clouded from the b/s in this case.
Easy to be influenced one way or another.
You’re right, when there are “lower class” victims involved, the worst is assumed.
It seems like it’s a sick trend for all these babies to go missing. I often wonder if the perps just sit and watch the news coverage and decide today is the day. I think they get off on having the world in a state of fear/panic.
See, with Somer Thompson, To me it sounds kinda odd in a lot of different ways. I’ll keep my mouth shut about it for now. But because this family isn’t “low class” they will never question anyone.
I’m gonna say it. The father stated he knew this was going to happen. If he knew this was going to happen, why didn’t he do something about it before it happened? Obviously they are divorced because he lives in NC. NC isn’t that too far away. Who’s to say he didn’t do it out of spite because of what might have been going on between him and Somer’s Mother?
Just a thought is all. But like I said, no one will ever get questioned.
If you notice, when it deals with “low class” the parents must have done it. But when they are not considered “low class” it must have been an SO.
PAW – They are probably thinking SO because of the reported attempt to grab another child the week before. Also, I’m not sure that class has anything to do with it. I think the Klaas family was middle class and they were put thru the wringer about their daughter. And I’ve heard other cases too (just can’t remember the names off-hand). Plus the recent Jaycee Dugard case. Her step-father was the main suspect for all these years. So I don’t think class necessarily dictates whether they look at SO’s first. I think it’s more circumstance.
But, PAW, one area which I think DOES consider class is the media. I read an article on wesh.com recently and it ended with “two other high profile cases of missing children in Florida” and mentioned Haleigh and Trenton Duckett. NO MENTION of little Adji who went missing more recently than Trenton. I wrote them a right smart note about that. Who makes it “high profile?” The MEDIA! And they can’t be bothered with Adji.
Also what I question is this, and I don’t know why. What made 1 detective want to follow a trash truck to the landfill and search there? Obviously we are glad that took place. But was it because that detective did it but no one would question them? I mean, think about it. No tip, no leads and they follow a trash truck all the way to the landfill and find her??? We’ve seen worse of the worse here and nothing shocks me anymore. Hell we’ve had as far as a Sunday School Teacher do evil things and kill a child. Priests as well. There are crooked cops too and we all know that.
Yes, I may be looking too deeply into this. But damn, after whats all been going on in the past 1 1/2 yrs. Who’s to say it’s far fetched.
Her killer is still out there.
m2c, I think all of this has just really gotten to me. I don’t know what to think anymore. I don’t know who to believe anymore. None of these cases make any sense what so ever. I’m at a loss here, ya know. My mind is going faster than I can deal with lately.
PAW I read a mainstream news article that quoted the Sheriff giving his detective the credit for suggesting that and the detective as saying that was something they’d been taught (in cop school or wherever). So I don’t know why HE thought of it and not the Sheriff or whoever but maybe it was just the fact that he thought of applying that investigative technique to THIS situation at THIS time! And for once it worked! Thank heaven! And it was very very smart for that Sheriff to assign all those cops and detectives to actually follow the trash trucks to the dumps so they could sift thru the specific piles. That was GOOD police work (for a change!)
m2c, But you see how quickly someone may think otherwise due to what’s been going on lately?
PAW – There’s a story on the home page of wftv.com Part of it reads:
ORANGE PARK, Fla. — After 7-year-old Somer Thompson vanished on her way home from school, investigators tailed nine garbage trucks from her neighborhood to a Georgia landfill nearly 50 miles away (see landfill), then methodically picked through the trash as each rig spilled its load.
They sorted through 100,000 tons of garbage before their worst fears were realized: Sticking out of the rubbish were a child’s lifeless legs.
Sheriff Rick Beseler said the quick discovery of Somer’s body on Wednesday, two days after she disappeared, may have saved precious evidence that could lead to her killer.
“Had we not done this tactic, I believe that body would have been buried beneath hundreds of tons of debris, probably would have gone undiscovered forever,” he said Thursday.
Paw & M2M,
Some very valid points. I do think the media has a lot to do with the coverage and outcome of some of these cases. I’m in Cali and I live near some of the areas that have been in the news lately. It’s crazy how some get the coverage and others are left to fend for themselves.
That is something that I’ll never understand!!!
m2c, okay then I ask this of you. Since you have heard about this, have you questioned if that is what happened to Haleigh?
Because to me, it would have been very easy for an SO to sit and watch Ron’s house knowing Ron wasn’t home at night, Went in, picked up Haleigh while she was sleeping, took her out, did his thing, killed her, then threw her away and no one would know it.
Some kids don’t even wake up when you pick them up, especially if they’ve been sleeping for a while.
The SO would know to go to that room too because that’s the only light that probably was turned on and off most frequently due to the kids sleeping in the same room as Misty.
PAW – I’ve been suggesting the SO possiblity for months! I’ve never been happy about LE supposedly ruling out all the local SOs so darned fast.
And you are right. It would be very easy for an SO to watch that home and wait for his chance.
But LE DECIDED it was NOT a “stranger” abduction because there supposedly was no forced entry.
Well, another blogger just recently listed about a half-dozen cases of kidnapping children right out of their own homes – with no forced entry. And the perp was an SO – not a member of the family or part of that home. So local LE are imbeciles.
Maybe if Sheriff Hardy hadn’t been so fast to fire the most experienced detectives when he took office, there would have been someone on the case who could have suggested something helpful right away!
m2c, and now we may never know. And poor Haleigh may never be found.
LE and the Media have been too busy the last 8 months putting out dirty laundry of Misty and Ron instead of finding Haleigh IMHO.
Here is the Link to R. Cummings & Neves on the Maury show: (Video)
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m10d22-HaLeigh-Cummings-story-on-Maury-show-video
Crime Examiner 10-22-09 6:21 p.m. EDT
“Haleigh Cummings story on Maury show” VIDEO
Here is the link to an article about searching the garbage dump when Haleigh went missing. Funny this is only being released now, but at least we can rule out that dumpster.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=147059&catid=3
We may want to give le the benefit of the doubt, we don’t know what they are doing so we shouldn’t assume they are doing nothing.
My name came up wrong? Above post is mine? wth?
Where did it go?
What I said was, here is a link to a story talking about the procedure relating to the garbage searches carried out when Haleigh was reported missing. Funny this is only being released now.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=147059&catid=3
We don’t know what le is doing, so we should not be so quick to assume they aren’t doing their jobs. If we want to lay blame we can blame all those who were supposed to be watching over and caring for her and all those who have injected themselves into this case. Their behaviour since she went missing has done nothing but hinder le’s investigation. I don’t wonder at all why they are keeping a lid on details.
I finally found the energy to get back here, it really hit hard about Somer and hearing Marc Klaas on NG….NG asked him if they could still find Somer alve since it hadn’t been 24 hours and Marc responded with a NO, in stranger abductions the child is usually dead in 3 or 4 hours ( I believe this is the time frame but it was a very small amount of time).
So if Ron and Misty are guilty, its not of hiding Haleigh, If they are innocent that just leaves 2 alternatives: a stranger (or non family member) or Crystal.
If Crystal did anything Haleigh is probably being hid out.
If it was not Crystal, then Haleigh is probably not with us any more.
So I pray that Crystal is the guilty one, that Haleigh is safe and healthy somewhere. I pray she is found and returned home. The alternative is just too sad.
Laws need to be changed and these people, once exposed and found guilty do not ever need to be aloud to roam in public anymore. I’m all for the death penalty, my husband is more leaniant, he thinks that they need to set aside a place for all SOs to spend the remainder of their life. I told him Florida would be the perfect place, the majority of them were already there. (OK, don’t get mad I’m originally from Florida).
ooops: allowed (not aloud)
PAW69 said,
in October 22nd, 2009 at 7:53 pm
m2c, okay then I ask this of you. Since you have heard about this, have you questioned if that is what happened to Haleigh?
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PAW,
Sheriff Hardy stated today that the landfills were searched for HaLeigh:
Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy said during the first few days of the investigation that deputies also searched landfills, which is how Somer was found Wednesday.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=147059&catid=3
I guess that’s good news and that was not overlooked. The thought of her laying in a trash heap is just unbearable.
I hate the thought of poor Somer being there too. Hearing both of her parents mentioning her being “thrown away like trash” just brings me to tears. I hope that they catch that monster so Somer can get her justice and hopefully her family can somehow find some peace eventually.
And more than anything I hope we can find HaLeigh! Way past time for HER to come home!
cent:
I saw that Maury interview, and I am confused. Have you noticed how Ronald has lost that smirk, now? He looks genuinely sad, now. I don’t understand what has happened to cause such a drastic change in attitude. It wasn’t just this interview. The last several months he looks sadder and less cocky.
Justice:
Thanks for the Maury Povich link.
Karon, I have been gone most of the day today and am trying to catch up but I agree Ronald had a sincere sadness and seemingly genuine tears.
In the past when some people thought Ron was smirking on NG I just thought she tickled him. I think Ronald sometimes sees NG as humorous, and has a mischievous grip about it. But I could be totally wrong. It is just NG gives me that same smirk sometimes, like she’s disgustingly humorous. I don’t know if I am making any sense but sometimes what I see on his face with NG, I feel kinda the same way. Teresa to me always seems sincere.
Yes Justice, thank you for the Maury link!!!!
karen,
yes he is different. i had been wondering if he was playing a role all of the time to be happily married for misty’s sake. you know being “on” so to speak. to keep her close? or to convince her, he really did want to get married, not for legal reasons. i guess he could also really be missing misty. and maybe with misty not being around, it maybe harder not to think all the time about what happened to haleigh.
the focus on misty and ronald is about the timeline. the police have to look at family, freinds, neighbors, anyone in haleigh’s life, plus all s.o. in the area. well anyone in ronald’s, crystal’s and misty’s lives too. i wish they felt that they had gotten a more credible description of that night’s events. it could have helped them narrow down the possiblities. but, even if they did get all the facts of that night, and it was a stranger abduction, isn’t it alot about luck? we need to change the luck part! give us more of a chance against the predators.
what a blessing that sandra cantu’s body was found. she needed to come home to her family. what a fluke finding her in that pond. plus a reporter persued the suitcase issue. but, since sandra was found, it helped catch her killer (hopefully it’s the woman behind bars), and sandra’s killer won’t be able to hurt anymore children.
i am so glad somer is being returned to her family. boy the police need to be thanked for what they did in finding her. i am praying there is evidence to lead to her killer.
who can even imagine taking a human being with the intention of killing them? how does anyone get to that place?
i wish there was a simple one or two page fact sheet with tips on how to keep children safe. do schools or doctors hand out anything like that to parents?
i also wish there was a simple fact sheet about sex predators. to educate us all. maybe it could include information on how many there are in are communities and some brief facts on the impact on people who are abused. we could pass the sheet out to all we know. ask them to share it with everyone they know. maybe it could be a way to bring the issue more to the front of everyone’s awareness. we could e-mail the fact sheet, and print up sheet, sometimes having something in your hand to sit there for when they have time to read it, could be good. maybe put on the fact sheet to please copy and share with everyone you know. so the more people know about it the better the chance of changing how we deal with predators.
law shrink, do you know where we could get fact sheets, on child safety, predators in our communities, and a fact sheet on symptoms of child abuse. if it was very basic, maybe more people would have time (or be inclined) to read. with info included, where to find more info if they are interested. that way, if people contact organizations working on the issue, they could sign up for info to keep abreast of the issue too.
i am sorry i go on so long. sometimes i am glad i post near the end of the thread.
if anyone has any ideas on how to spread info on subjects please share. thank you.
of course if it is someone’s fact sheet we would have to get permission to copy it
@Changethe-system…That is unbelievable,surely they wouldn’t have given you a vague answer like that..Was this kid given the cell phone by somebody older, or was he the one that took it off Misty, just curious how he knew she had 300.00 dollars in her purse..which makes you wonder if she had more money, if they were there to get drugs, you would think she would of had to send it in with the other girl..It almost sounds like this girl could of set Misty up, these guy’s appeared from where??
It was Misty’s Dad who got her a new cell phone and sim card,I think somebody asked that awhile back..
Well I hope Changethe-system that LE is just being cagey so as to not tip off your information, after all your Child can even identify the Kid who has the cell phone, what more could they ask for..If they don’t get him to do that, something is very fishy in the LE Dept…
Treece I agree with you about the grin on Ron on NG..It came when she said that little spiel, I forget how it exactly was said, but something about a bunch sitting around smoking pot, keeping their yaps shut, that is when he grinned…I did to..
The trick here is to find out what happened after gg Sykes dropped off the clothes 7-7:30, Misty said Tommy went about 5:30,Ac guy about 5,
the Kids were just finishing up supper when gg Sykes stopped by..Then what?? Misty say’s she put the Haleigh to bed at 8, but she also called Ron at 8:30 saying she couldn’t get Haleigh to settle down, I found that to be odd in itself, he said just whip the brat and then said or put in a movie, which she said she did,Tommy is suppose to have stopped by at 9:45-10 P.M..Misty say’s she went to bed at 10..So call me confused..something is wrong with this time line..Never mind anything else..
OK people I know you really do not want to read this but here it goes,
This is how Most Sexual Predators work:
1) They get the “urge” and start looking for a victim.
2) They look for someone who looks like easy prey.
A) Walks alone
B) Very friendly to people in general, Children who look at passers by
C) Longer hair easy to grab and control a child by there hair.
D) Small in stature
E) Mostly low in social wealth
3) They will “case” a home / area
A) What time people are in what rooms
B) How often you lock your doors
C) Where each person sleeps it the house by when they leave one room and then when a light goes on in another room
D) Time the go to sleep
E) What type of locks you have on your doors. They can find a Key alike by the model number and style.
F) Often times when people change locks they throughout the box in the garbage, anyone who gets that box can get a key made to fit that lock .
G) The watch traffic to see when there is less
H) They watch the victim to see their personality, what they where (special children with favorite Disney characters’ they were on their clothing)
4) They watch the caregivers and how they act toward a child.
A) Do they allow a child to play alone un supervised
B) Do they allow a child to walk to store, school, and friend’s house by themselves?
C) Do they make sure a child is dressed well
D) The life style and parenting skills are the questionable.
5) They are know not bothering with “come and see the puppies I have” They are now just, what is called “snatch and grab” they pull a car alongside a child jump out cover their mouth with rag, and throw them in the car, and take off. This makes it very hard for parents to help children stay safe because they don’t have a chances.
In addition, I just wanted to add, they love to watch the aftermath that to them is just as good as the child abduction. When they can see how much they have hurt even more people they are in their glory.
Sorry for all the type “O’S… Haven’t had my coffee yet. 🙁
Also the “bumping: a lock is very easy and effective when you have a cheap lock. (Anything under 5 pins)
Just so all of you are clear on one FACT, A sexual predator would never, ever, turn on a light in a home they were snatching a child out of.
Just wondering…yes that is the vague answer I got at the SO yesterday. No urgency at all. I sent an email to the SO as well yesterday (the new link that was provided)no reply yet. I also have not heard back from the PPD-also left them a VM yesterday . My child does not know if the kid was involved with the actual robbery or if he just somehow ended up with the cell phone. Last night he also told me the school sport he plays & the # on his jersey. Other than that he does not know his name. He is older than my child as well. Also the apt. complex where this took place is known for violence & drugs. In my heart, I feel my child’s story is in fact connected to the missing phone/purse. And I guess I will have to literally chase LE down & make them listen to me. As I have said before-it may not be nothing at all, but as a mom I have to follow my gut instincts. Time is always of the essence. The phone may already be gone by now. Sold on the street for drug money.
I read somewhere about a trailer next to rons where no one was living, and ron thought he saw a light on? Does anyone remember? Also the dogs hit on dumpster? Well they were saying there was a house that no one was living in on the little girls way home that just went missing! And where did they find her body? In the trash? It was just a few days ago that i read this on one of the sites somewhere here on a BNN SITE! These devils have found a way to do away with theses babies bodies, just wait for the trash trucks to run! Once in a landfil with tons of trash on them very hard to detect also hear Orango Park is not from where Haleigh lived! Do you think the same monsiter got Haleigh? I pray not!
After 8+ months, I’m to the point in this case that LE needs to put up or shut up about Misty and Ron. And move on. Media needs to stop with the side shows period. It’s not helping anything. Enough is Enough. Haleigh is obviously long gone. They need to find her. They needs to go a different direction. They need to bring people in that know what they are doing.
There are GPS units that cost only around $119.00 you can put on your children’s shoes, or on a necklace. You can set them to go off and text you, or phone you, or email you if your child goes out of the area you set up. Also the can pull them and they make a really load alarm!
Agree with Toughenough – it could be a SO who took Haleigh. I heard a discussion on another news channel who said that very seldom does a perp enter a home at random without leaving some kind of evidence, fingerprints or some fibers etc. Of course if it was a planned abduction, the perp would be a lot more careful to have everything needed to steal the child.
Another fact, psychics are often mentioned. Most police departments do not use them altho if it was my missing child, I would try anything. Ron said recently that several psychics had been there with no results. I thought on Maury that both Teresa and Ron looked very good (much better than we have seen them) and answered questions well. People who have not read about this case nor have seen the Cummings before should be impressed. I don’t have any idea what happened to Haleigh but I have always thought both Teresa and Ron really loved this child. I am sure, almost, that Teresa has helped raise this child.
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TO anwser your question?
Because they are finding alot of children in the landfills,this is not the first!
Linda, Last night in my posting I was just trying to show how quickly people come to their conclusions/judge. That’s all.
Most of it is because I’m angry about the 8+ months on Haleigh and how LE jump right onto Misty and haven’t moved on really. I understand that it’s because of her being inconsistant. But looking at other avenues at the same time wouldn’t hurt either. They have lost 8+ months of valuable time due to this. It’s just a lot of anger built up is all.
As soon as people were finding out about their lifestyle, they quickly made judgements due to that. The media helped that as well.
PAW69
You have to right to be angry, i agree they were to slow and to far behind on this one! Missed alot!!
PAW69,
You have to right to be angry, i agree they were to slow and to far behind on this one! Missed alot!!
Just Wondering said,
“Then what?? Misty say’s she put the Haleigh to bed at 8, but she also called Ron at 8:30 saying she couldn’t get Haleigh to settle down, I found that to be odd in itself, he said just whip the brat and then said or put in a movie, which she said she did,Tommy is suppose to have stopped by at 9:45-10 P.M..Misty say’s she went to bed at 10..So call me confused..something is wrong with this time line..Never mind anything else..”
Hope this helps your confusion a bit. The alleged “just whip the brat” conversation Ronald had with Misty occured weeks before Haleigh went missing. The alleged arguement the night she went missing was about Misty wanting to babysit for some children other than Ronalds.
Tommy never stated a definitive time that he went to the Green Lane trailor, he said it was in the 10 O’clock Hour- which is anytime after 10 PM but before 11 PM.
Disgusted,
FYI, Tommy said he was at the trailer around 9:45 PM.
Thank’s JJ sorry if I was mistaken,
I was siting these articles,
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/21/exclusive-misty-cummings-brother-reveals-he-was-at-trailer-and-more/
http://www.bloggernews.net/122339
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/21/ng.01.html
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5264616.php
I am sorry I do not recall ever hearing 9:45 specifically, or prior to 10 PM.
Maybe he said give the brat a pill or maybe she thought she would get her to go to sleep if she gave her a pill, or maybe they made her smoke some weed! What would that do her? There is no telling what went on in that place where ever it was!
Misty probably gave Haleigh a drug laced lollipop..
@ Disgusted..The conversation I am referring to, is the one overheard by Ron’s co-worker, this is how we know this much was said..It was also the same time as Misty was asking to go babysit, she was also telling him she couldn’t get Haleigh to settle down and that is what the coworker overheard…
JJ your right, Tommy cleared it up himself…
Karon Cox said,in October 22nd, 2009 at 11:28 pm
cent:
I saw that Maury interview, and I am confused. Have you noticed how Ronald has lost that smirk, now? He looks genuinely sad, now. I don’t understand what has happened to cause such a drastic change in attitude. It wasn’t just this interview. The last several months he looks sadder and less cocky.
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Karon,
Yes, I’ve noticed that Ronnie’s facial expressions have changed. I do believe that he has been hit with something that he didn’t expect or didn’t want to know!! It just may be the realization that HE has more to do with HaLeigh being taken than people believe.
I think he’s very sadden, exactly why (besides the obvious)… I don’t know ?
Once again, my opinion could be clouded by the b/s… but I still see something off with him and his mother.
Hmmm,
I posted links to an Art Harris article, a Sky 97.3 article, a Nancy Grace transcript, and a BNN article that all stated that Tommy came by the trailer in the 10 O’clock hour. That post disappeared. I would love a link to where Tommy nails down the time to 9:45.
The “whip the brat or put in a movie” article can be found on Art Harris as well and is quoted from a co worker who stated he overheard that conversation weeks before HaLeigh went missing. The same co worker also described conversations that he had overheard where Ronald was on the phone with HaLeigh and was syrupy sweet.
I always post what I believe to be facts, and I can provide links to substantiate these facts. If I am postulating I always state when something is merely my own thought or theory.
Disgusted, when you post with links included those post are put on hold until they can be reviewed and approved. The post will probably show up later. just fyi
Twenty-three-year-old Hank “Tommy” Croslin Jr. told detectives Thursday that his sister’s then-boyfriend, Ronald Cummings, called from work to ask about her whereabouts. In the interview, he told detectives he went to the Satsuma mobile home about 9:45 p.m. to find his sister.
Why aren’t the authorities looking more at Ron ? I understand he has a record as long as my arm. He certainly isn’t a saint. Isn’t having sex with an underage girl a crime, he likes them young ?
His Mom works as a dispatcher for the Sherriffs office there. Is there a cover up ?
I have a feeling Ron knows what happened…and may be involved…
When Mistys brother went to the trailer and knocked..was Misty’s vehicle out front ?
Is Misty covering up for Ron ?
Remember when the dogs hit on the dumpster ?
I wonder if her little body had been there, and moved.
Like little Somer Thompson, (found in the garbage)
Did they thoroughly search the landfill ?
What is with Florida ?
Hey, this time they took Mistys’ purse..last time maybe they took Haleigh ?
Why don’t they put Misty in rehab..
..and…
Why wasn’t Ron arrested for having sex with a minor..Misty.
Where is the Grand Jury ?
If the drugs are in lollipop form, I can see how Haleigh might have grabbed one !
Is that whole town on drugs..they all are illiterate, incoherent, criminals, and druggies. Trailer Trash..
And Liars….
Just Wondering at 12:33 am – Thank you but where did that report come from? What news agency please?
cent @ 7:19 pm: You said, “Yes, I’ve noticed that Ronnie’s facial expressions have changed. I do believe that he has been hit with something that he didn’t expect or didn’t want to know!! It just may be the realization that HE has more to do with HaLeigh being taken than people believe. I think he’s very sadden, exactly why (besides the obvious)… I don’t know ?”
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Maybe because it’s been 8 months and he’s beginning to give up hope? IMO his divorcing Ditzy may mean that he does not think she had anything to do with it OR that he’s given up on getting any info out of her.
I’m sure they would have divorced soon enough anyway. He never wanted to marry her. It was one of those “shotgun” weddings – not in the traditional sense of the gal being preggers but because he would have been arrested for statutory rape if he hadn’t.
@m2c..It came from News Jacksonville..I didn’t put the link, because you don’t get it right away..However I just tried something..lol..
I typed in google..Tommy Croslins 9:45 time in Haleigh Cummings Case.. and up they all came…
m2c,
Maybe he has lost hope!! I’m sure all kinds of emotions are running through him and the rest of the family. I still go back to some of his statements “only God can judge me”…
“I’ll believe she’s alive till someone shows me her body”… “Don’t know I was at work”!!
They all have said some crazy stuff… I just think perhaps he feels he is to blame (indirectly).
I don’t know!!!
cent, I think you are right that he and other family members and ALL parents and family of children to whom awful things have happened have blamed themselves – whether it’s at all realistic or not. An example: Mom and kids are driving to the grocery and get in a car accident. One child is injured or killed. Mom blames herself for deciding to go to the store that day! It’s natural I think.
I’ve always thought that some of Ron’s comments are due to (1) his “neanderthal”/too-many-B-action-movies mentality and (2) simply not knowing what to say!
I believe the “Only God can judge me” comment came when he was under attack by many in the public accusing him of either actually harming Haleigh or in some other way being responsible (like shacking up with Ditzy and leaving the kids in her care).
We (meaning bloggers) take comments and make huge mountains out of them and read meaning where there may be no more than the simplest OR no meaning really. And we do that with everyone. It’s awful.
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