Simon, great article, oh what tangled webs she weaves!!!!

I can’t get the pdf files to open for me. Never had any problems, now what? LOL can anyone like do their magic, copy them to something then post links for computer illiterets like me? Interesting information, only proves what I’ve been feeling in my bones, everyone muddying up the situation on that end causing mass confusion and strife. Nothing about Haleigh, and everyone wonders why we on the net seem out of sorts? Because here’s proof, some of us smelled the bad aromas from across that camp since the beginning, but didn’t know why, voiced it, then have been slammed ever since.

Leads me to this thought: If Crystal and family had absolutely nothing to do with Haleigh’s disappearance, why all this seemingly un-important manuevering, behind the scenes activities? I mean if you are innocent, why bother and go through all this? All so Crystal will look good? Doesn’t make any sense to me. Crystal honestly wasn’t looking that bad to cause such a reaction and dominos effect, she and family weren’t under the gun, being looked at, being pressed like Ron and Misty, no public outcries, why?

Pirate can’t be trusted with anything private. Just look at these e mails that LLPapa sent her that she sent to other people.

I deleted e mail addresses and contact information of the witnesses mentioned but it’s awful that Pirate would send this e mail to others.

E MAIL #1

—–Original Message—–
From: exxxxxxxxx3@xxx.com LLPapa
To: sxxxxxxxxxxfl@xxx.com Pirate
Sent: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:35 pm
Subject: Information
Pirate,

I have made a decision to trust you with some information I’ve had for a month. I have received so much “behind the scenes” information on this case, it’s hard to separate fact from fiction. I seem to attract every theory and claim of fact out there for some reason. I have a very long file stored in my Documents of PM’s and e-mails, many from people I don’t even know.

I’m trusting you with the following because I think you and I want and believe the same thing. We both want justice for Haleigh, and neither of us believe Crystal or her family are involved.

I received the following e-mail on July 23rd:

E-Mail from XXXXX (XXXXXXX)
Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2009 3:35 pm
Subject: (no subject)
Hi XX, (Papa)

Regarding Ron being at work the night Haleigh went missing and the article on JusticeforHaleigh, it is my understanding that there are employees that have said Ron was at work that night. He was late, and he was drunk…he was seen around 5:30-6:00 that evening not at work and drinking. He was possibly sent home early due to drinking. There are ATM records showing he used the machine before his 3 AM shift ended, proving he left early, but the exact time has not been confirmed (to me). FYI for your records. You’re doing a great job on AH.

XXXXX

I heard nothing else until this PM at AH from the same person:

PM from XXXXXXX on: July 27, 2009, 05:49:37 PM

Hey there Papa, have some info for you:

*****(name of witness removed)***** 386-*****(phone number removed)*****
(address removed) Dr.
(city removed)

—Wealthy for the Palaka area, owns several parcels of land.

Call him about Ron’s whereabouts on the night Haleigh disappeared (he doesn’t know you’re calling but will probably talk to you). Ron knows that LE has this information, but the public doesn’t know.

(another witness name removed) will talk to you but he’s hard to track down.

PS- Ron was given his baretta back, it’s now in his posession

I responded with a PM questioning whether LE was aware of this and received this reply:

PM from XXXXXXX on: July 27, 2009, 09:09:09 PM

LE knows. Has taped sworn statement. He is the XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX who got an XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX at XX:00 pm on 2/09/09, looking for XXXXXXXXXXXXX.

After sitting on it for a month, I asked XXXXXXXXX to contact this guy and get his story to see if it checked out. I got this e-mail a little while ago from XXXXXXXX:

—–Original Message—–
From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX@XXXX.com>
To: LL Papa AH’s foum exxxxxxx3@xxx.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:24 pm
Subject: (WITNESS NAME REMOVED)
LLPapa!

Success! He was leery at first and I just told him we were discussing this case here in satsuma with friends and his name came up and so I was cuirous to know his side of the story and so he finally opened up and talked to me!

Okay, so here it is.

*****(STATEMENT OF BLOGGER WHO CONTACTED WITNESS REMOVED FOR CONFIDENTIALITY OF INVESTIGATION)*****

Rumors…there’s always some part of the truth embedded in them…just hard to wriggle them out sometimes!

*****End of e mail from person who spoke with witness Papa’s words continue below*****

I’m asking for your advice as to where to go from here with this. I’m thinking about sending it to the FDLE agent Jason Jolicoeur. Apparently local LE has a statement, and I’m not sure if I totally trust them. It seems to me that this may be a central element of proof in this case.

What are your thoughts?

E MAIL #2
—–Original Message—–
From: sxxxxxxxxxxfl@xxx.com Pirate
To: exxxxxxxx3@xxx.com LLPapa
Sent: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 9:09 pm
Subject: Re: Information
Hi Papa- Much of that information I already knew from when I used to talk with Kim P. I knew about Mr. XXXXXX and I knew about Ron being xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

You don’t have to answer this question- but it’s for you to think about- if you got that information from Basil/BadMe (same person or an e mail address of breakfree), or Top Gunner (mod at websleuths with an aol e mail address of KarenDxxx) it came to you directly from Kim Picazio because the two of them are still serving as mouthpieces for her. I’ve heard they’re both still passing out information for her- BadMe/Basil was shook by the post I made yesterday and even called me trying to find out what I know.

I never received any of it in writing so I’ve never passed it on to LE and after what I learned about Kim, I wasn’t sure weather to believe anything she told me and I don’t want to go to LE sounding like another internet nut.

But if you have e mails, as well as XXXXXX’s testimony that XXXXX talked to this Mr. XXXXXX, and you’re comfortable with it, I would certainly turn it over to LE- along with the sources of your information so it can be substantiated- if it’s true, you’re doing something that might find answers. If it’s not true, then the people handing out false information might be dissuaded if LE contacts them. (and for the record, I dont’ think XXXXXXXXX is being dishonest- therefore I’m assuming the Mr XXXXXXXX part of this is true)

*****(remainder deleted for confidentiality of investigation)*****

E MAIL #3

—–Original Message—–
From: exxxxxxxx3@xxx.com LL Papa
To: sxxxxxxxxxxfl@xxx.com Pirate
Sent: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 9:27 pm
Subject: Re: Information
Of course I knew it came from KP (or at least suspected as much). It did NOT come from Basil or Top Gunner, although I knew Basil was tight with KP. Obviously I shared the same skeptisim as you. I have sat on this for a month and told no one except my friend XXXXX and of course XXXXXX when I asked XXXX to contact the guy. I have had 2 phone conversations with KP and numerous e-mail exchanges with her as well. Never have I asked, and never has she shared any “inside” information. I suspected this came from her because of who the contact is.

WOW!!, I just reread your e-mail. Are you saying KarenD is Top Gunner? ROTFLMAO!! I didn’t know.

EMAIL #4
—–Original Message—–
From: sxxxxxxxfl@XXX.com Pirate
To: exxxxxxxx3@xxx.com LLPapa
Sent: Thu, Aug 27, 2009 7:21 am
Subject: Re: Information
Sorry for the delay in responding- I went to bed early last night to watch some of the Ted Kennedy tributes………I’m a history junkie and love watching those things.

Karen D is Top Gunner. Without a doubt- I’m the idiot who introduced her to Kim P and I feel responsible for all of the information that has been passed around that never should have been. I feel horrible about it because it has created so many problems for Crystal and her family. Although if it wasn’t me, it probably would have been someone else, but I really wish I never went there. The only good thing that came of this was that I have had the opportunity to get to know Crystal and Marie and they have really changed my life.

Getting involved in something like this is not normal for me and sometimes I look at where I’m at and ask myself what the hell I’m doing. But I do believe God put me in this place for a reason.

I originally contacted Kim because there was a guy named Player posting at WS- me and several other posters got a strange vibe from him- he claimed to be a neighbor of Ron’s, knew their every movement and schedule, and just creeped me out. I was considering contacting the PCSO but the whole internet thing made me wonder if they would listen. When Kim came on the case I e mailed her about him and it snowballed from there.

After a couple months, I began to question what she was doing- and not doing. Several things happened that you may have or have not heard about- she was sharing information about the DCF investigation and handing out information like what you sent me, she wast feeding information to Art Harris. I didn’t think it was right. A couple of the others she took into her confidence kind of exploited the relationship and information she gave them and began asking for things to post- and she complied. Then she had me post something that was false. When Marie told me it was completely untrue, I washed my hands of all of them including Kim, TopGun/Karen, and BadMe/Basil. I apologized to Marie for making problems and thank god she understood and forgave me.

Be really careful. And if you would consider something, I’d appreciate it- I try to keep Marie apprised of things I see on line that seem to come from Kim. I will not tell her about this unless you tell me it’s ok- but the fact that although Kim is no longer on the case but is still talking to bloggers is something Marie needs to know. Haleigh is still missing and Mr XXXXXX’s name being handed out like that is not good. I worry about the safety of this xxxxxxxxxx since he has info that could help to convict Ron.

Let me know if you want Marie to know about this. I promise I won’t talk to her about it without your permission. And no pressure from me. I promise.

Also- I’m glad you mentioned you trust XXXXX- we’ve become twitter friends and I really like her. She seems wonderful- in fact, meeting you and getting to know her is what made me decide to post my “come together” message at XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. You guys are terriffic!

E MAIL #5

—–Original Message—–
From: exxxxxxxx3@xxx.com LLPapa
To: sxxxxxxxxxxfl@xxx.com Pirate
Sent: Thu, Aug 27, 2009 8:07 am
Subject: Re: Information
I’m certain that you have valid reasons for your position on KP. My experience with her has been different, however. She has NEVER asked anything of me nor I her and would be delighted to show every single e-mail I have ever exchanged with her. I don’t have the inside track with Marie and Crystal that you have. My opinion of KP is based solely on what I’ve read and the e-mail exchanges I have had with her.

You will notice, I hope, that the dates on the information on Mr. XXXXX came after she was no longer Crystal’s attorney. KP did not give me this info although I certainly agree that she seems to be the source. The info came from Karen D aka Panther at AH. I had no idea that she is Top Gunner until you told me last night.

You certainly have my permission to show any or all of this to Marie and/or Crystal. I have NO agenda here other than trying to help find the truth. In my opinion, this information has taken on validity after XXXXXXX conversation with Mr. XXXXXX. I am going to back away from pursuing this info any further. If Marie feels it should be reported to LE, then by all means do so. I have ALL e-mails and PM’s relative to this. Contact me if she needs anything.

I first e-mailed KP when BNN started their attacks on her and knowing their brand of “journalism” I felt bad for her. I still feel that her initial intentions were for the right reasons. Apparently human emotions being as they are, things were sidetracked. KP has never said a single disparaging word about Crystal or Marie to me. About the only thing she has said in defense of her actions as to information releases is that it was her job to try and create doubt as to RC, while placing her client in the most favorable light possible. I feel that is a reasonable strategy.

In closing, when I look at pictures of Haleigh and see the same bright joy and hope for tomorrow that I see in my own granddaughter’s eyes, my insides ache for Crystal and Marie. I know, without a doubt, it would destroy me to lose one of my reason’s for living. That is my motivation and my ONLY agenda.

Papa

I heard Pirate was very mean, sneaky and untrustworthy, but I didn’t realize it was this bad! What a snake!

I guess to her being important and on the inside is more important than the family of Haleigh Cummings.

What a joke! I hope nobody still trusts her after all she has done to so many people.

Once again… people trying very hard to keep their name up in lights!!

I keep jumping from thread to thread… getting caught up on the latest info.

And what I find very compelling is the
****six degrees of seperation****

I’m trying to be clear. How are all these new internet posters names involved in this case? Alot of names are flying around, here, there and everywhere bit by bit. Someone put it in perspective please.

Yes a lot of us are on forum here.

Kool,
I have only posted once in the forum… I like to be out in the open here. Only, I hate having to jump from thread to be up on the latest comments!!! Alas, nothing is perfect!!

Not for nothing but did anybody notice that according to the post by evel loon Kim P and the people working for her are giving information about witnesses to people online? Thats not cool.

Oh dear….If LE do NOT go and interview Johnny (Marty) ‘likes them underage’ Sheffield, after this revelation, then I firmly believe someone within PCSO is also involved and covering for him. Where is Ms. Peggy Cone these days, is she still the lead investigator on Haleigh’s case? Isn’t she related to Johnny (Marty likes them underage) Sheffield?

Unbelievable…….

I’m shocked too that CS’s complaint was dismissed, all those confidential e-mails and phone conversations being released, and K-Sue’s claim that she was asked to lie to DCF in the hopes of have Jr. removed from Ron. Also, KPs claim that wherever Haleigh is she’s being fed, and well cared for, KP would know this how?

Messer’s Shoemaker, Beardsley and Mowrey…..I do hope you’re reading here, it seems quite a lot of nasty business going on with the intention of hurting your client.

Cobra….KP most certainly aint no friend of yours, I don’t care if think you kissed and made up…I’d trust her not!

Where is Haleigh………Please LE investigate Johnny and Sarah Sheffield, please bring Haleigh home, back to her Daddy.

Noreen, I understand what you’re saying about Johnny, CS, etc., but I think you missed the boat here on KP.

What attorney doesn’t lie or redirect the negative for their client? I hate to have to stick up for KP, but why is everyone not seeing what really happened here?

All the things that Crystal and Chad did were their choice! KP didn’t give Crystal the drugs to have a baby addicted at birth.
If the crack in the truck was Chad’s, KP didn’t put it there or smoke it with him.

I know people like to blame KP for many things but I think the writing is now on the wall as to how difficult a job it was to defend a client such as Crystal Sheffield.

What is that old saying about putting perfume on a pig?

Hi Reply,

I understand what you’re saying, I truly do…but surely, if there’s a chance that Haleigh is alive and well, and KP knows of her whereabouts, wouldn’t KP reveal that to LE?

Please don’t tell me it’s not part of her job…..as a Mother, surely she’d reveal what she knows and help bring precious Haleigh home regardless of who her client is or isn’t.

All the issues and concerns can be worked out later, first BRING HALEIGH HOME, then start the civil war in Satsuma and Baker County.

Noreen, I so agree with you.

Reply,

The thing is though, KP did such a good job of covering for Crystal, Chad, Marie and Johnny that she actually assisted in keeping attention off them, the Sheffield’s and Griffis have almost been totally overlooked, we’ve heard lie after lie from their mouths, yet they’ve never been investigated thoroughly, LE have had tunnel vision and I think Ms. Cone may have directed the focus to the Cummings side only.

Most of us knew and could tell Crystal was still using drugs, just watch her interviews, she’s never really ‘with it’. I didn’t buy the story about the crack pipe and the truck belonging to someone else, as you can see Chad driving it in some of the video’s of the prayer vigils, and it became pretty evident Art was also doing his best to clean up Crystal’s image with his writing talents.

I do not think Crystal or Ron had anything to do with Haleighs disappearance, but I would really love for LE to start investigating the ‘other’ side of Haleigh’s family, the maternal side….start with Grandpa Johnny and Aunty Sarah. Re-interview Crystal now, give her a LDT and see what she knows now, it could be enlightening.

I firmly believe Haleigh is still alive…..she needs to be found and returned to her Daddy.

Wow, this is a post I never expected to make!

To say that I’m disappointed that e-mail communication I had with Pirate was shared around the virtual world would be putting it mildly. Separate my words from all the rest and you will see that I had been sent information that I wrestled with what to do with. As I’ve posted in a couple of different sites, the information essentially said RC was NOT at work as media sources have reported.

This unsolicited information was sent TO ME.

After a month or so of sitting on it, I asked someone who I know that lives in Satsuma to contact this alleged witness to see if the story checked out. I received an e-mail back a couple of days later, in return, which in very detailed fashion confirmed what the PM’s and e-mails to me had said.

I sent all of this to two media sources which I will not name at this point asking them to look into the matter. I did not want to burden LE down with another “delusional blogger tip” until I knew more about it.

I met Pirate about 10 days prior to this e-mail at the Haleigh’s Closet event in Palatka. I was familiar with her writings and frankly thought she was one of the “good guys”. I can see now that the fact that this information was spread around shows that my assessment of her seems to have been flawed.

Just before coming to this site to read this article and comments, I had just finished reading the Bar Association file at TJ Hart’s site, and you know what? Even if 100% of this info did come indirectly from Kim Picazio, over a month after she had been fired, quit, or whatever, she were still in there fighting to do her job which was to cast doubt on the other side while building up her client’s image. The fact that these e-mails were made public by Pirate just further validates her defense to the Bar Association as far as I’m concerned.

I notice where “Buzz Kill” posted that I’m wrong in my thinking that Panther from AH was the fine moderator from WebSleuths, Top Gunner. If so, I extend my most sincere apologies to Top Gunner for ever stating that to Pirate.

In closing, please separate and read my words in the e-mail posted above. I stand by each one of them. My only interest is trying to help find Haleigh Cummings.

Well IF anyone doesn’t think Ronald Cummings doesn’t uses drugs and hasn’t been stoned out of his gord on some of his interviews I have some ocean view property to sell you that is located in Arizona.
Do I believe Crystal would qualify for mother of the year? No, I do not but neither does Ronald Cummings qualify for father of the year.
And where was Ronald Cummings that afternoon?
Does LE know he showed up to work late? Why is the sheriff’s department ignoring this information?

LadyJ – Just to “play fair” how about we spend the next 8 months villifying Crystal and her family the same way you did Ron? We can make up stuff, repeat and embellish all the horrible things we know (or think we know) about her, speculate on why the cover up, the need for a new image, where the $12k really came from and why, and we can imagine ways she or her family or friends could have done away with Haleigh and shout from the rooftops that she should be hanged. Just to be fair about it.

After that we can look at things realistically.
No cover-ups, no more Ron’s all bad, Crystal’s all good. Just look at them as people – both severely flawed. THen maybe we can get back to looking for Haleigh WITH SOME FACTS and information instead of prejudices and blind hatred. How about it? Maybe we’d actually get somewhere in finding Haleigh.

Kool Look @ 1:55 You said, ” If Crystal and family had absolutely nothing to do with Haleigh’s disappearance, why all this seemingly un-important manuevering, behind the scenes activities?”

EXACTLY! That side has been protected from the start. Why? Supposedly for Crystal to get custody of Jr (and Haleigh in absentia)? I don’t think so. The WHOLE family was protected from the investigation into Haleigh’s disappearance! Was KP responsible for that or was LE complicit in it? Or both?
I have wondered about this from the start.

I sure hope that these revelations will get PCSO to seriously investigate everyone on that side about Haleigh. The only reason NOT to would be if PCSO has something to hide. And I would not be surprised if they did.

Noreen: You are SO right! You said, “The thing is though, KP did such a good job of covering for Crystal, Chad, Marie and Johnny that she actually assisted in keeping attention off them, the Sheffield’s and Griffis have almost been totally overlooked, we’ve heard lie after lie from their mouths, yet they’ve never been investigated thoroughly, LE have had tunnel vision and I think Ms. Cone may have directed the focus to the Cummings side only.”

EXACTLY!
My only questions is: Was this entirely due to KP’s efforts or does that side of the family have something on PCSO that they’d get special treatment – as in not even be investigated?

LFlorida, leave me the hell out of this. Your best buddy Pirate has done enough damage, please don’t add more to it.

When are you going to wake up and see how much trouble she has caused? How in the world would I get emails between Papa and Pirate? It is time she is held accountable for what SHE has done. Period.

I will take the lumps that I deserve, but I won’t be accused of this silly and ridiculous garbage that you are spewing here.

Nice to know you are still sticking up for a person that mocks and makes fun of people with a horrible disease. How shameful.

This is pathetic.

And the Law says…said, before you call someone a liar, reread my words. Where did I say that I didn’t share this information with anyone else?

I said I didn’t POST them anywhere else. I’ll have to go back through my e-mails and/or PM’s to figure out exactly who you are, but it shouldn’t be too hard. I only sent this to a very few that I thought might be able to have some input.

I see the value of your input. It won’t happen again I assure you of that. Your last sentence is obviously proven by your post.

Learn to read what someone says before you say this type of thing.

By the way, I have the permission to share the information from the sender. It was my consent I was referring to with your friend.

Disgusted said,
in November 16th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

@LFlorida badme and basil are one in the same!
——————————-

Everyone knows that already, Disgusted. LOL…Wakey wakey…
Oh, and who are you?

Disgusted: Basil/Badme is not LFlorida

There were many emails passed to multiple persons. Don’t let anyone kid you! I am sure we have not seen half of it yet.

Read the last sentence of an e-mail that was NOT sent to Pirate. Read the last sentence very carefully. I do not lie.

—–Original Message—–
From: XXXXXXXXXXXX.com
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX.com
Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 10:58 pm
Subject: (no subject)

There are many things that you may not be aware. Pieces of evidence that are important to the crime, that cannot be found in sound bites or media releases. This is just a tiny bit of what is known by insiders and LE. XXXX already has this information. As for what comes next, no further recommendations were made. Do with the information what you see fit

I too was privy to the e mails posted above. They were sent to me by LLPapa and by RadioNewz and the e mail addresses and witness information were not redacted. The sender of the contact information for the witness was KarenD whom according to the bar complaint released today is Karen Devine a moderator at Websleuths.

I’ll ask again. Is it lost upon all of you that a person Kim Picazio admitted to working with has been e mailing the name address and phone of a witness in HaLeighs disappearance. Is this going to go by the wayside or will there be repurcussions?

M2c you said…LadyJ – Just to “play fair” how about we spend the next 8 months villifying Crystal and her family the same way you did Ron?

Go for it… BTW..I haven’t vilified Ronald Cummings..Just stated he isn’t a candidate for father of the year either…And that he uses drugs too…

And wanting to know where he was that afternoon isn’t villifying him either.

Seems like you have a problem with comprehension if all you can focus on is Crystal…Where is your concern for what happened to Haleigh?

LFLORIDA: give it up, gf. Papa was lambasted by Pirate like so many.

And weren’t you one of the crew that went to lunch with Cobra that day to get the dirt on Crystal and KP? hmmmm…..

The fact that this Pirate has disparaged Badme due to her MS and disability makes her dispicable in my eyes. She is discriminatory, and took advantage of a person’s illness by calling them “disturbed” because they had MS. In reality, we can all see that Pirate was the “disturbed” one. She was just trying to discredit someone she knew could tattle on her. That is the lowest form of life I can think of. She is going straight to hell for that one, IMO.

LLM PAPA:

You need not say another word. You are well regarded, and well respected on the boards. There is no need to defend yourself.

As you can see, Pirate has about 4 friends left in the world to do her dirty work – if that. You are so far above them in integrity, and no one questions your motives, intentions, or well intentions in the Haleigh case. Pirate is desperate to bring down someone, ANYONE, with her. I say rise above it. She and her 4 remaining henchmen don’t deserve your keystrokes.

I’m saddened to realize who you two are. These posts explain a lot of what’s been going on the last few days.

I had permission to share the information as I’ve shown above. Your friend did not.

PHOEBE/PIRATE:

You have done enough damage to this entire case. You have single handedly messed up people’s lives, exposed the people you were so obsessed with to literal public image destruction. You have done enough.

GO AWAY PIRATE. YOU ARE DONE HERE AND EVERYWHERE.

Who is Karma? ROFL!

Debs said, in November 16th, 2009 at 4:23 pm LAWSHRINK: You need to check your rule books. Attorneys are obligated to keep crimes of their client a secret. The only time they are permitted to tell is if they’re client is about to commit a crime. And I think it must be a crime involving bodily harm. Someone could check Florida law on that last part. But the point is, that lawyers MUST cover up the crimes of their client. If they tell, that’s a violation of confidentiality. We _____________

Good Lord please tell me people don’t actually believe “lawyers MUST cover up the crimes of their client”.

Utter nonsense.

LJG9 (sorry just can’t use the word “Lady” in addressing you). I can’t even pretend to be that much of a hypocrite.

I was responding to your Ron-hating post at 5:29 pm and obviously being sarcastic. But a one-eyed monster like you (a hater) can’t see too well so I guess you missed it.

You sound like all the other one-eyed monster Ron-haters and make no sense or any worthwhile contribution to this investigation.

You don’t know me. I hate no one – except whoever is responsible for what happened to Haleigh and we do not KNOW who that is.

I thought Pirate Girl was that dog handler lady Judy Lucia ( the one involved with the fake search) Who knows I’m totally confused now that this part of the case is out.. I think this littele e-mail segment is completly distracting from the real case now. All these wierd e mails ,from other forums ,being posted by others ,who are not inviolved, are totally distracting.JMO

Praying4Answers my email address is jannyo@gmail.com

Jan Barrett

mel22 said,in November 16th, 2009 at 8:27 pm I thought Pirate Girl was that dog handler lady Judy Lucia ( the one involved with the fake search)
********************
No, Judy is blstarke on WS.

Karen, Ok whoever pirate is I dont care, I suppose I was incorrectly stating the dog handlers e-mail from that site Write Into Action( The one Cobra hates so much and calls crayon boy) After hearing him talk so much about crayon boy I went to Write Into Action and did pull up an e-mail pic/vid with Pirate Girl(texting to judy Lucia) but i’m not up on this part of the story so thanks for the correction.

Yesterday virgo and fake virgo ,now two debs and now a bunch of people posting all their names together from every forum they’ve ever been to.. What a joke this has become. Too many bloggers incorrectly thinking they are making a MAJOR break in the case. Bloggers probably play a SMALL role as a collective but the personal glory needs to stop by mixing what was said to each other in other forums from months ago. If LE enfocement already knew and didint say it, it was for a reason. So then those who want to be center of blogging attention start personally messaging each other so they look like they were the first ” exclusive” blogger to know what LE already knows.

So Pirate was actually a Ronette undercover, wtg Pirate for getting the TRUTH out there! ha ha ha

Karma really is a B*tch.

I wonder how long the plank is?

Can anyone say JAWS lol lol

Hey Reply…tonight I’m Karma.

Sorry all for the o/t, it’s just all so ironic; IMHO Pirate was so cruel, vindictive, spiteful and hateful at times..unbelievable. WTG Kendall, you’ve done a fine job representing CS and MG. Hopefully LE will go and investigate a few more now, without Detective Cone.

It no wonder that Haleigh has not been found.

With all this BS.

So I wondering are you guys in a contest for top posters on the Haleigh Cummings’s case.

Who the meanest? Who hate Ron the most?
Who Hate Crystal the most? Who has more inside scoop.

If you put all this energy in to helping find Haleigh…she might be found.

JMO WHERE HALEIGH????????????????

Ladies and Gentleman, station break: Would someone be a Baby Doll and tell me how to make my new Dell laptop computer open up the pdf files? Had it for a month, it’s opened everything up perfectly, practically have to do nothing but click and everything happens.

I’m not caught up on the posts, but am intrigued, shocked, hurt, glad, sad and grateful I’m here with you guys learning and participating these days. The atmosphere is friendly and caring, I’m humbled, Bless you all from the bottom of my heart. Off to catching up, I have to work in morn at son’s school for the “Book Fair” so I’ve given myself tomorrow afternoon for this forum, hehehe with all my attention.

These posts may appear un-important, but their exactly one critical element to Haleigh’s investigation many of us have been pondering and questioning for a long time. The air needs to be cleared, and now. I believe the lull is now over in this case, and the storms are just starting to brew up to the surface. We’re going to get to the bottom of alot of secrets, lies, agendas, cover ups, backstabbing hate filled revelations, and in all this we’re going to see what one of the problems has been in solving Haleighs disappearance. We’re learning what this has to do with LE, and we’ll see what they do now.

Mel22, information is power. I’ve not been here nor as great a registered member as you, but if you could bare with this situation, I feel many of our hard pressed questions will be answered. Won’t be pretty, but once we know the truth, maybe then as a caring group of internet sleuthers, we can then know the right things to say to LE, the media and family in pushing this case forward in an appropriate legal way without causing another soul to be harmed, as we see now. Hugs

I’m astonished at how correct my thoughts were all along. Thank you Jan Barrett for allowing me the freedom to inquire and express myself. Facts and deeds have been kept secret far too long. A shame and disgrace what’s coming out. But I would rather know the truth, deal with it, and move on, turning this situation into a positive direction in the ~~~~~”Hunt for Haleigh”!~~~~~~~

I, with no right, ask kindly with warm cares, for the lying to stop now, anyone involved to come forward with the truth, and that not one of us bash and attack another with hurtful words and name calling of that person. All that will accomplish good communications, expose the truth, and build relationships on trust and integrity, Haleigh deserves this greatness from us all. My wish would be fact finding amicable dialogue in hopes we learn.

The truth will set us on the right course in the hunt for Haleigh, our Lord can Honor that, and surely is needed for a little girl that has a smile that will warm the soul on the coldest of night.

Kool do you have the latest Abode reader downloaded?

That should be all I can say is..

I’ve done a whole lot of reading today and my eyes are tired. 🙂

I think you’re great mel, I just signed on her about two weeks ago. Been posting for three days, hoping I haven’t made any enemies. LOL

Wow, thanks for the news mel as I haven’t been able to open up those files yet. I’m going to do what Vaq said, being a new comp. I probably need to download it for the first time.

I don’t like seeing others get into trouble, but from what I’ve actually seen, the bragging of their very own behaviors, some need to be investigated by LE. They crossed the line. Not sure on what kind of punishment should be given, but I’m merciful and would like to see some apologies, especially towards the family by some. I do know of a couple of internet interfers LOL, that should be seriously punished, perhaps fines of up hundred to thousand dollar range. One night in the gray bar hotel and no computer use for six months. LOL nice to meet you mel22, have you ever posted anywhere else? hope to be friends

Kool Look, ok so i guess I have been here awhile longer. I seriously thought I saw you post more than just three times but maybe was at adifferent forum. Yes I do post elsewhere but under the same usename always to prevent from confusion. I havnt posted elsewhere latley bcuz the boards hacve gone in directions I don’t like or feel have to do with the main case. Everything seems like an offshoot of the case lately. I am wondering one thing? Does anybody know if the party house was scoured(after the raid) with tape to look for haleigh or Jr.s hairs in conjuction with the sworn affidavit of Joe Pytko. That would be damning evidence!In other words maybe the mobile home is not the scene of the crime but only the coverup spot. Maybe thats why thers no evidence at rons MH. As far as being a credible witness , who cares. His actions (threatening suicide) a few months later after her disappearance is telling , of his cracking from knowing the truth and not being able to hold it! But as usually is POO POO’ed bcuz of credibility issues.Hairs from that party house would be damning , thats all I can say.

btw, Kool Look , just google Adobe Reader and download.. Adobe reader opens .pdf files!

No ones to say that pytko really knows “which” pond she was ” supposedly” dumped at. pytko was probably only privvy to the fact that he saw nay nays car there at the party ( nay nay may really have been at home with her bf and it was amber borrowing her car to go to the party) That may be why amber borrowed the car again to put detergent in the trunk to clean up. Pytko was out of the loop once she was put in the car by WB GP and taken and probably only knows the circumstances and not the “actual” location. I just think they have the “wrong ” pond!

Article is Sept 24 th WSKY excl.- Joe in Jail letter I”d’d- Haleigh OD’d ,near the bottom of the posts – you even go as far as saying to M2C ,if he says it happened, then it happened alright! Why doesnt LE consider him credible then ?Maybe you need to send an e-mail to vouch for him being credible albeit using some occasional drugs?

should be a comma at Joe O. “took” to the party,(COMMA) to pull out first car – to differentiate that he merely went to the party, then puled the car out as oppossed to taking to the party to soley to get the other car out. One Comma can make a big difference here.

Well ,we all have Delusions of Grandeur at some Point!!!

Good Morning, Everyone,

Debs,
AS I posted, “Lawyers do not have the right to hide a crime their client has committed, which is UNETHICAL.”
As you can see, I used the word UNETHICAL, not criminal, however, I would think with a young child missing that a lawyer would be looking out for the child’s benefit that would be ethical in my book but then again that is just me.
To knowingly make your client look innocent in order for others not to investigate your client as thoroughly as they should, when a child is missing,………Well I just wouldn’t sleep to good at night. Once again, that is just me.

I would love for anyone in the family to hire Mark Fuhrman. Thanks Treece for the welcome, so far, I find this site to be kind and willing to seek the truth, then report. I don’t want to be anywhere posting where attacks, bashing, and mean spirited people dwell.

This case isn’t pretty, some have ruined the integrity, but hopefully if the good people maintain their paths, everything will be overcome and back on track.

It’s got to be tough to take the heat like Simon and Jan are, being accused of gossipy drama when reporting, as I don’t see it. Except for Jan’s soaps, thats a different story hehehe, but a story indeed that we know is for drama and not real.

Justice and Haleigh together in harmony

Hollys Gmom – THere were already plenty of people here at BNN who were not Ron-haters and who lobbied for a broader investigation INCLUDING one into Crystal’s side of the family.
WE were happy to see you come here and as far as I know, we did not care where you came from or why.
I can’t imagine what you mean by “WELCOME to the new posters and to the “refugees” comming in from other forums. I have anticipated this happening and have been trying to help ready the BNN forum for your arrival.”

Gosh it sounds like a line from a bad sci-fi movie – Alien on earth beams message to spaceship: “WELCOME! Fellow Pluto-ites! I have readied Earth for your arrival!” LOL!

Holly’s gmom – BNN was always open to people with open minds. Way before you got here. That’s how and why you got here and were welcomed and are still here. Please I really don’t want to continue thinking of you with a metal bowl on your head with two antennae sticking out of it!
Just join in like you have been and others will too.

Gosh, I’m kind of scared to go see what has been posted after my very personal post on the Shaniya article……

Hollys Gmom said,in November 18th, 2009 at 1:59 am Dear ones;

My heart breaks for Shaniya as well as the other children who are lost, beaten, raped, abused, and murdered. Unfortunately this senario is not new. It has been repeated many times over through out the ages. I myself can bear first hand witness to the fact that there are parents, of both sexes, who sell or barter thier children sexually. My own father gained much prestige through-out his pedophilic “community” for sharing his children with his “friends”. He was highly regarded not only for allowing others to witness & participate in sexual activities with us but more so for the “training” we had recieved. It was considered a great testament to his prowess and abilities due to my willingness, “enthusiasm”, and ability to portray a suductress….at 5 or 6. This is REAL!!! I’m describing a situation that occured 35 yrs ago. These heinous acts are still occurring daily through out this and other countries still.
I’m not going to pretend I know the answers on how to stop this behavior. I honestly don’t. I just know that somehow, someway…it’s got to STOP! Newspaper articles across the country speak of mothers caught outside of convience stores selling thier children for a 6-pack of beer or some smokes, another mother video tapes and broadcasts over the internet the rape of her 4 yr old daughter by her 300+ pound father, mothers who look the other way as thier boyfriend/husband/family member abuses or rapes thier child(ren). I can’t really tell if it is happening more often or we’re just hearing about it more in this new age of technology. I’m unsure about whether these demonic people are killing more because they fear the stiffer penalties if caught or if it even is a factor. This I do know for sure, once made a victim of sexual abuse you become an easier target for future abusers.
I’m apologize if my comment has offended or triggered anyone. I just couldn’t contain my “secret” in light of this case and outcome. As soon as I heard that there had been a sighting at a motel with a man, I knew how it would end. May God bless and keep you, Shaniya, in his loving embrace.

Hollys Gmom…. so have they released the cause of death yet? Still don’t know why the creep killed her. I do feel bad for the dad but it does sound like he made a really bad choice by letting this ho of a muther keep Shaniya while he worked. However, few men would do what he had done and that was be a good dad and take custody of their children when the mother can’t. He could have walked away from here years ago but instead he took custody and took care of her….good care of her from what I’ve heard in the media. He isn’t all bad and he certainly didn’t deserve this. I hope they put this freak ho in with general population so they can tear her to pieces!

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