This in from TJ Hart, these are some of the excerpts from the Feb 4 tapes. There are plenty more to come. We apologize for the watermark across the video, however it was the quickest tool we could find to to the editing and rendering. We will be putting articles up about the content of each tape, but thought the priority should be to get them to our readers – simon
Videos from the February 4, 2010 Misty Croslin SJCO jail visits were released last week.
Tommy and Misty Croslin were arrested January 20, 2010, on drug trafficking charges along with Ronald Cummings, Hope Sykes and Donna Brock.
Ronald Cummings is the father of missing Satsuma girl Haleigh Cummings who disappeared February 10, 2009 while under the care of Misty Croslin.
Police say the two cases are separate, but they will take full advantage of this situation to interview these suspects to see what they know about the night Haleigh vanished.
* Misty and Lisa Croslin Pt 1
* Misty and Lisa Croslin Pt 2
* Misty with both parents
* Misty and Hank Croslin Pt 1
* Misty and Hank Croslin Pt 2
* Misty and Hank Croslin Pt 3
* Misty and Hank Croslin Pt 4
TJ Hart
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackWow… Misty is giving up some “nuggets”… Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!!!
BACent, I cant believe how they are trying to blame everyone else for their problems. If they would have just quit with the drugs and stealing there would have been no reason to be in jail. They caused all of their own problems.
Maybe someone should tell Hank no will hire him because he was doctor shopping and its the sun shine laws that let employers check on his records. Dumb and dumber. jmo
Thank you, Simon!
It sounds like LE doesn’t even need to take advantage of this situation to interview these suspects to see what they know about the night Haleigh vanished. All they need to do is sit back and listen to the video calls! LOL!
And I did hear a statement last week that so far Haleigh’s lawyer on the drug case has not allowed LE to speak with her about Haleigh.
Tobias, yep… there will always be some blame shuffling. I just thought it was hilarious the way Misty is willing to “drop” names. It seems as though papa is being coached in the area of “questioning procedures”. All they need to keep doing is throw outside info at her, and she’ll talk… you can tell she Did NOT KNOW, that John “snitched” and she was not pleased.
The videos above take me TJ’s website then TJ’s website just keeps me going to his own. can’t get the videos .
Linda,
When you get to a SKY page…click the forward arrow on the YOUTUBE frame to get the videos to start.
Have they even been interviewed by Police yet? I have not heard any of them talk about this in the phone calls to family. If they have any hope whatsoever that Haleigh is still alive, why are they not in a hurry to interview/interrogate MC, RC, etc.? What’s the hold up.
Shockwave, They’ve lawyered up. It’s illegal to gueston them without their attorney present. Investigators are doing it right by keeping them secluded, alone with nothing but the basics….soon, they will all be forgeting the attorneys advice by running each other over to tell what they know! They will be like a bunch of scared ants!
I can hear misty now: I REMEMBER, I REMEMBER ARE YA GONNA’ LET ME OUT NOW???? huh?huh?huh?
Sorry… I gotta’ go dig up a new attitude…I just can’t get past the selfish bull these people put out…and hide behind our lord and savior in hopes that the police will think they’re changed souls. bye for now
Once they know how severely the drug charges are gonna be they will have a different tone. jmo
methinks, Dont worry I think they will get Gods intentions soon enough and its to protect the rest of his sheep from these wolves. jmo
I saw on sky that these are just the Feb 2 videos, Feb 4 is forthcoming… and these people are still talking?
Where are the Ron and Donna tapes?
Thanks Tobias, and your right! It just pi$$es me off…
They use what works in the past, scams they have used on people. We are a loving family ,we beleive in god, we are just pathetic uneducated because of disabilities,on and on. Thats why they move around a lot people eventually see the real Croslins.jmo
I know they have “lawyered up” but a child is missing. There should be some kind of policy/law regarding the urgency with a child who is endangered that states that LE has the right to do what they deem is necessary in order to find the endangered child. If there isn’t, there should be.
The messed up part for me is this: I’m not so sure misty has anything to offer. She’s snitched her “bro” out on a few felonies, whoopie they must have told her what info would be needed to “help” her situation. Is it just me? or does she not know what they think she does.? IDK These guys just don’t seem smart enough to be capable of keeping a secret like this.
Did LE charge Misty with Transporting across state line… remember she called the undercover and said she was in another state and was on her way back?
Is it me or has anyone else noticed that as soon as Misty gets in over her head they send her off to Mich.? The j. Miller case in point(its sealed so we dont realy know what happened) Lisa sent her to Michigan that time, and Misty tells her dad she should have listened and went to Mich. or Mass. when he wanted her to. Makes you wonder if there are other things that are sealed in court that we know nothing about. jmo
I think that their roots are in Michigan.
I’ve noticed Tobias, I would like to know how Timmy and chelsey can afford to live in mass. Isn’t it really expensive to live in that state?
HI Cent!
Michigan, Colorado, Tennessee, Florida, Mass. among others. They have family everywhere. jmo
tobias, you said: “Once they know how severely the drug charges are gonna be they will have a different tone.”
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I agree and I can’t believe they don’t know by now (or by then – when the tapes were made).
M and T seem to think they’ll get off easy on the drug charges so they see no reason to make a deal by telling LE anything about Haleigh (if they know something).
What are their lawyers telling them? That the CAN get off easy?
I know an LE rep of the dept that’s investigating Haleigh’s disappearance that they’re willing to talk with M “when her lawyer allows them to.” Geesh! Can you believe it?
Chelsea parents live there, it was once said when they were packing up to leave.jmo
they are originally from Michigan.
They lived like gypsies as far as I can see, which isn’t a bad thing….I’ve learned through experience that homelessness is a state of mind. Theres nothing wrong with staying on the move as long as your not running away.JMHO
Hi Methinks, how are you?
Tobias, maybe there is some one in Mich, that has a stable environment. However, I think that her parents do the shipping-off, so they don’t have to deal with her and her antics
Cent thats exactly it, I would bet.
Tommy doesnt seem to have a lawyer per say, Misty has Robeert Fields and he may think he can fight this and win(yeah right) and Ron has a lawyer and I think he thinks that the lawyer and public opinion will set him free. jmo
hi m2c!
hi vaquera!
From recent events I think they move before they get caught. Timmy sure is camera shy dont ya think? Maybe he is worried someone will recognize him from another state. If he was worried about the press ruining his employment he would have changed his last name when he went to Mass. jmo
methinks,
Misty may not know what a lot of people think she knows. She may not have been at home when it happened. LE said her account of the evening does not match evidence they found in the MH. We do not know what that evidence is, or if in fact there really is any such evidence.
What LE has wanted all along from Misty is an accurate account of everything she did, everyone she spoke with or saw, everywhere she went, etc., from the time Haleigh got home from school until the time she called 911. They believe she has not given an accurate accounting for that time period. That’s what they want from her.
Misty may have key info, but she may not. She is, imo, holding something back. It may be important or it may not be important but it needs to come out, whatever it is.
With all the news coming out about snitches, and their significant others having PCSO higher ranking officers as family members… seems like something could have been leaked.
I think your right tobias, tommy doesn’t have representation as far as I know. Just another expense out of his childrens food fund. GRRRRRR
hi cathardic, Your probably right…so why don’t she just tell them..unless she has something to hide?
I dont know where the John and Linda thing fits in but it could just be what Hank thinks happened to get them all caught. And if they did tell LE that they were selling and thats why they did the month long sting all the better reason its not a set up. jmo
He sure did want to get their names out there as snitches didnt he? He also had the look on his face like he would do something to them if he could get away with it. jmo
WOW! is all I have to say about that!
I have no clue if LE could do this or not lol but my brain is turnin, so here it is! I wonder if it is against the law for LE to LIE to them? Just bring in a bunch of BS (like what Misty & others have gave them) from the “outside”?? Maybe she will think others are spilling the beans, so therefore she will too!?!
Not sure they can even do this lol but hey, sometimes you gotta fight eye for eye, tooth for tooth!
I’m not saying it’s a “set-up”, just find it interesting, especially with Ron’s accounts of having the ears/mouths of some of PCSO.
I don’t believe it’s Hanks way of deflecting, I think he is trying to loosen the “grip” that the clan has on his daughter. Clearly Misty was surprised by the John revelation.
Misty just does not know when to quit talking. BAC you are right papa Hank is extracting that info with ease.
Methinks you are right! It does seem like people like this get theirselves in deep poop. They want to start using our Lord and Savior for their own selfish purposes. The whole time misty is professing she is giving herself to God she is talking with such vulgarity. When folks like this get out of the trouble, they go back to their same wayward life and forget who our Savior is.
what does anyone think Mistys purpose was to reveal that Linda Franks relative is a sargeant in the Sheriffs office and why did Hank Sr. make sure to get it out there that Ronald and John hung together?
Just looked up John Barton and he was booked on the 8th of Jan. so they couldnt have been snitches because Misty and Donna sold on the 8th to the UC. Misty had met the UC way before John and Linda were arrested. Hank is naming them as snitches for some reason? jmo
Hi looking,
I’m thinking that there is some truth to Ronnie’s prior charges being dismissed because of “ties”. I also believe that Hank is working this opportunity to help his children out. Yes, if anyone can get her talking it’s Daddy, and he seems to be damn good at it. It’s all unfolding, this isn’t just about a child going missing!!!
Tobias, that was jan 2009
It is legal for LE to lie. They can tell a suspect they have evidence that they don’t really have. They can tell a suspect that another suspect is ratting them out. They sometimes come in with a file folder of evidence that is in fact nothing more than a prop.
It is a legal interrogation tactic and one that is used often by LE.
New Here, Yes, LE can say whatever they want to get you to talk. They can say, so & so just rolled on you, so what’s the scoop.
Hank has now linked Misty to John and Linda, or am I just imagining that he says they were her friends and she should not have trusted them? Hank may be getting himself out of the doctor shopping charges so he can go back to work and eventually get him and Lisa up to Mass. and away from the mess.jmo
Lisa and Hank were on their way out before when they took off to Tenn. but Lisa stole the checks so they had to come back.jmo
Well that is good then! Maybe they will lie their way to the truth?
I do believe Hank Sr is trying to get something outta Misty. If she really wants this all over like she says, then she needs to get to talkin! I do believe Misty knows SOMETHING, so PLEASE Misty just spill the dang beans already….someone….anyone?? God bless you little HaLeigh.
That could also be why Misty is so clingy to her parents with the I love yous and you can always come see mes. She knows they arent going to stick around, they are already saying we cant find work and we dont have money and we wished we never came to Florida. They will leave when the going gets tough. jmo
Misty is on this kick about GOD and doing right and learning a lesson. Well if she’s true to those words, then she needs to speak up and tell it all. She needs to do it for Haleigh.
tobias- I totally agree, I think Lisa and Hank are gunna do all they can to clear their name. LE and others are gunna help them out all they can…in hopes that they can get Misty OR Tommy to talk. Remember something was also mentioned about Leanord Padillia (sp?) buying Hank Sr a car. So I can totally see them doing what they can to not only clear their records, but to also try and clear their names.
Maybe everyone needs to stop visiting Tommy and Misty. And stop accepting collect calls. Then maybe after being so damn lonely, they will talk.
As long as they have that slim hope of getting bonded out by LP or someone else, they aren’t going to talk. They need to be told that they can’t get bonded out.
Well you cant say Hank ever beat Misty because if I ever said some of the things she said refering to Nancy Grace my dad would have really tore into me right or wrong. Her mouth is full of dirt and he just goes ssshhhh. jmo
-Well,I must say though IMO Only……what one of us who are scared wouldn’t call out for God at that moment….Imagine driving your car and you know you’re about to be hit head on?What’s the 1st thing you’d do? I know what I’d do! So i can see past that but it seem’s Misty is blabbing finally and everyone is against her again? How can she win! Let her talk all she want’s as long as it paves the road to Haleigh!
And what kind of daughter says those things in front of her father? Just opened up a little of that door into their lives, Misty does what Misty wants and always has.jmo
Cathy, I want her to talk… in fact I just told my sister that I’m sending a sliver of respect her way… for running her mouth.
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 17th, 2010 at 2:49 pm I’m not saying it’s a “set-up”, just find it interesting, especially with Ron’s accounts of having the ears/mouths of some of PCSO.
I don’t believe it’s Hanks way of deflecting, I think he is trying to loosen the “grip” that the clan has on his daughter. Clearly Misty was surprised by the John revelation.
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Yea and it makes ya think again of the lady officer at Tommy’s? Was that true about the fmale officer at Tommy’s right before the 911 call?
Tobia,the kind thats always been allowed too,you forget how she was raised? Ya know!
Against her for blabbing? I don’t think anyone is against her for blabbing at all lol.
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 17th, 2010 at 3:19 pm Cathy, I want her to talk… in fact I just told my sister that I’m sending a sliver of respect her way… for running her mouth.
You and Me Adams!!!!!!You and Me!!!!!!
No Paws,not one specific person,I am talking about media,n/g……lol
Cathy, I don’t really know much about the officer at Tommy’s.
No, no one is against her blabbing, its just funny all the sudden she is “turned it over to God”. She can turn it over to whom ever she wishes as long as little HaLeigh gets brought back home. Kepp it up Misty, you will slip sooner or later!
Adams,
me either and maybe thats why I need to know.lol
New here! said,in February 17th, 2010 at 3:26 pm No, no one is against her blabbing, its just funny all the sudden she is “turned it over to God”. She can turn it over to whom ever she wishes as long as little HaLeigh gets brought back home. Kepp it up Misty, you will slip sooner or later!
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I agree tho from now on I’ll try a different word than “everyone” LoL
The history of God and Jail, is a long one. I personally expected it, I’m just waiting to see if she changes her name and becomes a Muslim!!
Exactly NewHere,She can turn it over with an eggturner long as it get’s us the truth!
Ah okay lol.
I think we all in here are going to go through a lot of ups and downs the more she talks.
I was one of the few stating how we need to be fair with all involved. Which we do. But ya know what, the more she talks, the more I want to slap her around and beat the truth out of her.
As for Ron, I really haven’t seen any difference with him. He still talks about his daughter. He’s still angry and upset about it.
Misty and Tommy are only worried about who has money to get them out.
Those tapes had been redacted right??
If so then why did they leave the part about the Seargent from SO?
Just sounds like the Croslins are trying to throw people under busses again with the John Barton and Linda Franks thing. They are trying to make it look like a set up, but isnt that what a sting is anyways? No one forced them to do it so it isnt entrapment. Now if they told her that if she did it to get a lighter sentence on something and then busted her anyways that would be entrapment. They are grasping at straws to get out of trouble.jmo
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 17th, 2010 at 3:28 pm The history of God and Jail, is a long one. I personally expected it, I’m just waiting to see if she changes her name and becomes a Muslim!!
LoL
Hi everyone! 🙂 I’m short on time today so I haven’t listened to the newest tapes. Can someone please point me to which tape has the “John snitched conversation”. IIRC when Misty was first arrested didn’t she ask her parents if talent, John and Linda were coming?
Cathy, that’ll be LE back up… that this was NOT a set-up, and that LE is not hiding anything!
That the claim means nothing.
KAT,THINK 5 OR 6 OR 6?? LOL
John Barton was already in jail on the 8th of Jan. when the first drug sell was made by DB and Mc and the sting started way before John got arrested. Hank has bad info on those people. jmo
ya know Adam’s…..I’ll bet you are right on that one! Got to be a reason they left that!!
sheeeeeesh!
Cathy, I’m serious…. when we see her in court, she better NOT be stroking prayer beads.
Maybe they left that because they are giving us hints that they are on them. Who knows lol.
Adams,
Soon as i saw it I thought no way! they left that in there?
tobias said,
in February 17th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
John Barton was already in jail on the 8th of Jan. when the first drug sell was made by DB and Mc and the sting started way before John got arrested. Hank has bad info on those people. jmo
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tobias, if were talking about the same John.. that was Jan 2009
lol Paw’s……oboy wouldn’t that be nice,make em’ squirm like a worm..lol
OMG,KAT,sorry…….part 3 0r 4……I dunno what I was thinking!
I meant there were 7 links i guess.lol
Cathy, Go to PCSO jail logs, John Barton was busted on the 8th of Jan. the first buy was on the 8 th so he couldnt have ratted on them to get a deal, DB and Misty were already selling to the UC on the 8th. jmo
I’m starting to feel that LE have been doing their job this whole time. They saw what happened in the Caylee case and didn’t want the same thing to happen in this case. So when they have everything perfectly in a row, I have a feeling we’re gonna get the biggest bombshell ever in this case.
OMG Adam’s…she don’t even wanna go there,pull a damn casey! I am rooting for her and she’d better not shame me Adams! LoL
Maybe I’m missing what you’re seeing… Cause I see Jan 8,**2009**
Thanks CathyJo! I’ll be back later but wanted to hear that if possible….give me something to think about while waiting for my appt.
TTYL
tobias said,in February 17th, 2010 at 3:39 pm Cathy, Go to PCSO jail logs, John Barton was busted on the 8th of Jan. the first buy was on the 8 th so he couldnt have ratted on them to get a deal, DB and Misty were already selling to the UC on the 8th. jmo
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Hmmmm,I’ll do that…Ty!
But omy!! Bless Mistys heart she’s not good with math either!
OOPS.So can anyone check to see if this guy ever went to court for the gun charges? And when? jmo
Cathy, I think Tobias meant that for me
Yeah, I love how Misty can be having her “Come to Jesus” moment of redemption, reflection and revelation one second and then be telling everyone to kiss her f#$&ing a$$ the next. LMAO Call a Priest, grab a cross and a bible and splash that girl with some Holy water…I’m waiting for her to levitate, her head to spin around and for her to spew pea soup!
YVW Kat!
Adam’s,quit trying to take my stuff..lol I’m teasin ya’ but ok was it the 2009? or 8?
just a sec Tobias,try sommin’!
methinks said,in February 17th, 2010 at 2:22 pm The messed up part for me is this: I’m not so sure misty has anything to offer. She’s snitched her “bro” out on a few felonies, whoopie they must have told her what info would be needed to “help” her situation. Is it just me? or does she not know what they think she does.? IDK These guys just don’t seem smart enough to be capable of keeping a secret like this.
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It’s not just you. I doubt she has anything more to tell them, and even if she does, I think she’ll follow her lawyer’s advice and not talk to them. PCSO have messed this case up bad, imo.
JB, lol This is the real Misty I think. No holds barred, no one can say that little tirade was an act. And someone better tell Misty that Nancy will just say she and her family got themselves into the mess they are in and she just aires it for the public.
Someone call Jerry Springer. I dont care for MS.Nancy either but really she shouldnt antagonize her. jmo
I just read the entire Polly Klaas story. The man who is on death row today was seen by police the night she went missing. His car was stuck on the side of the road. He tried to drink a beer in front of them, and littered the can when they told him not to. If the police had checked this guy out completely they would have discovered his very lengthy criminal record. The cops even helped him move his car, and little Polly was right there.
The reason I’m bringing this up is because I just know the answers are right under someone’s nose,if they would just care enough about Haleigh to think it through. Same for the Morgan Harrington case. Remember the sex offender who went to Crystal’s “Haleigh Bug” center she had for a little while? Red flags were thrown up, but was he ever thoroughly checked out? I don’t remember hearing that he was.
Also, ask Ron Jr. what he remembers again. Elizabeth Smart’s sister didn’t remember certain things that night until much later. Ron Jr. is even younger than she was. If I was Crystal I would have conversations about Haleigh with him to try to see if he knows anything. Without causing him trauma of course.
BAC I did not hear anything about Rons priors being dismissed. When did that info come out? I also believe this is more than just a child missing.
Hey Looking,…I was speaking of all those charges that fueled the speculations that he was an informant.
This John and Linda look a little old to be Rons and Mistys friends, maybe they were more like family friends? Does anyone know if they are some how related to the cummings? jmo
BACent, Could Ron have maybe snitched and the charges were dropped on those? jmo
They were administratively dismissed. Like maybe he snitched and the cops let him off those charges? jmo
Please no Jerry Springer. This story is tragic enough. Misty is not the “key”. I’m almost certain of it. We are seeing a “no holds barred” view of Misty, because she doesn’t have anything to hide. I’ve tried to imagine what I would do if I was the POI in a missing child case, and I believe I would do the same thing as Misty. I’m not talking about selling drugs, but I am referring to her attitude. I would tell everyone to “$#@! off” too, and when “you know the truth you will apologize.” You never heard Casey Anthony say anything like that. She is the only one who has even brought up Haleigh’s name. Her and her family. You haven’t heard a word from Ron about Haleigh. You just hear him talking about his underwear issues, and talking to his stripper girl.
What town would the Barton live in? Satsuma or ?? Theres 100 possible matches soo???
Shockwave, They are putting blame on Haleigh for their problems not worrying about her and the Hank thing was totally for the cameras. jmo
Shockwave, That’s not true. Ron has talked about Haleigh alot. They have showed his tapes on NG. That’s the only reason I’ve been watching her is because she shows the jail tapes of Ron, Misty, and Tommy.
Ron has mentioned Haleigh in conversations with his mom.
Cathy John Barton is on the 3 year jail log fot Putnam county. Go to Putnam county jail logs and push the 3 year log. then put Barton in and it pops up. jmo
In the interview and with his mom he has talked about Haleigh.
Tobias, they look old… but that John was born in 1980. As far as Ron snitching… I have no idea. I mean, I can see him being one, and that’s where his smugness comes into play.
And when he talks about Haleigh. He doesn’t blame her for him being in jail like Misty and Tommy keep doing.
Cathy, He is from Pomona Park
Ohhhh Ok Tobias,I have a program I use for backgrounds and it gave me 100 possibles?? LoL
As for Casey not saying, when “you know the truth you will apologize.” No she doesn’t say that. But her attorney says everyone will know the truth when the trial starts, and she has Cindy saying that when we all hear the truth, Casey will get the mother of the year award.
Adams,thats why the mug of him smiling stands out to me!
oh,Ok Ty Tobias!
LoL Sorry but the only thing that comes to mind about casey to me is satans child!
I must have missed it. What did Misty say when she blamed Haleigh? I did hear her ask her mom to bring her a picture of Haleigh. I heard her say she doesn’t know what happened to Haleigh, but I did not hear the blaming. Can someone tell me exactly what she said as far as blaming the five-year old child? An exact quote please.
Ron doesn’t blame HaLeigh, yet he says he did what he did because of her… I’m sorry but that’s bullshit… he sold drugs cause wanted to do it, he continued to screw/sleep with Misty, for his own needs.
He said a detective said they didnt want to arrest him and they just want to find Haleigh.
Yeah sure Ron they dont want to arrest you for the drugs and why would they think you know anything about your daughter if that statement were true? jmo
BAC thanks for the info on the dismissal of Rons priors being dropped.
Shock, I don’t know the quoute, because I don’t feel she’s blaming the baby. I believe she is RIGHTFULLY pissed because her bail is high because of Haleigh’s case. Two different cases, yet one in the same.
Looking, you’re welcome, but I didn’t have much info to give you. Glad I’m able to help.
NATIONAL SEX OFFENDERS REGISTRY
CHARLES LESLIE BARTON III Mappable 761 OAK DR
GROVELAND, FL 34736-3005 FL
Claude H Barton Not Mappable Department of Corrections
Incarcerated, FL 00000 FL
DAVID STEPHEN BARTON Not Mappable Department of Corrections
Incarcerated, FL 00000 FL
LOUIS MARTIN BARTON Mappable 14713 Boyce Rd
Glen Saint Mary, FL 32040-5705 FL
Michael Duray Barton Not Mappable Out Of State
Lake City, FL 32024 MI
Michael DEAN Barton Mappable 420 S HARBOR CITY BLVD RM 133
MELBOURNE, FL 32935 FL
Randall Curtis Barton Mappable 8514 Peach St
Jacksonville, FL 32220-1550 FL
RANDALL CURTIS BARTON Mappable 8514 PEACH ST
JACKSONVILLE, FL 32220 AL
ROBERT MICHAEL Barton II Mappable 614 Eden Dr
Inverness, FL 34452-5928 FL
THOMAS BARTON Not Mappable Department of Corrections
Incarcerated, FL 00000 FL
Barton Conrad Surrency Mappable 1905 N Taliaferro Ave Apt 2A
Tampa, FL 33602-2557
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Hm,I heard the name Charles but thats the guy who had road rage with Ron right? Charles Jones?
Registered Offender List
Search Criteria: sheffield, john, FL
Click on offender’s name for additional information
Name Type Address State Registry
JOHN J SHEFFIELD Mappable 13918 SE 44th Ave Lot 23
Starke, FL 32091-7855 FL
Gender: Male Race: White
Hair: Brown Eye: Blue
Height: 6’01, Weight: 173 lbs
DOB: 08/28/1970 Age: 39
PAW69 said,in February 17th, 2010 at 4:04 pm And when he talks about Haleigh. He doesn’t blame her for him being in jail like Misty and Tommy keep doing.
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I’ve never heard anyone BLAME Haleigh for them being in jail. What they said was that they were in jail because she went missing, which would appear to me to be true. They launched a big entrapment style sting against small time drug dealers, and I think they are right that it wouldn’t have happened, but for the fact Haleigh went missing.
shockwave said,in February 17th, 2010 at 4:09 pm I must have missed it. What did Misty say when she blamed Haleigh? I did hear her ask her mom to bring her a picture of Haleigh. I heard her say she doesn’t know what happened to Haleigh, but I did not hear the blaming. Can someone tell me exactly what she said as far as blaming the five-year old child? An exact quote please.
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I must have missed it too.
I didn’t get that she blamed Haleigh,She was just saying thats why they’re in jail! and it is basically!
They set out to arrest them for anything they could to find the truth about Haleigh!
They said if it wasn’t for Haleigh missing, they wouldn’t be in jail. They are technically in jail for selling pills. But while they are in jail, they want the truth about Haleigh.
I don’t think they blame Haleigh in a bad way,just saying the reason it has all come about after Haleigh went missing.imo
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 17th, 2010 at 4:13 pm Shock, I don’t know the quoute, because I don’t feel she’s blaming the baby. I believe she is RIGHTFULLY pissed because her bail is high because of Haleigh’s case. Two different cases, yet one in the same.
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I agree. I am guessing the reason Fields hasn’t sought to have her bail reduced is because she wouldn’t be able to come up with the money to pay even a reduced bond, and has nowhere to live even if she bails out.
Does anyone know when Lisa & Tommy will have the charges of stealing from their kind blind neighbor dealt with? Tommy has stolen at least 2 firearms in a relatively short period of time. I wish LE had figured out where that 2nd firearm went. Tommy appears to be connected to people that he can sell stolen guns to, which is pretty frightening. What a shame LE didn’t take his clothes from the night Haleigh went missing and test them. I fear LE seriously messed up this case.
Tobias @ 3:34 – A person does not have to be in jail to become a snitch. That person could have told LE that M and T and whoever were dealing drugs long before they got arrested.
They could have done it for any of a number of reasons. Why do you think they would have had to be in jail to be a snitch and tip off LE?
Or am I not understanding what you are saying?
Had Haleigh not went missing the cop’s would not have targeted them for drugs! Thats a short descriptive way of looking at it,but i do disagree with le that it’s nothing to do with Haleigh..thats BS!
shockwave said,in February 17th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
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I am glad someone beside me see a connection to these other kids. TY for your post about this.
CathyJo,
There are also a lot of Griffis in the Glen St Mary and Starke area registered as sex offenders. Hilda Griffis, who is a sex offender of a child under 12, is related to Chad, but I haven’t been able to figure out how she is related. She seems to be the right age to possibly be his mother or aunt.
How can le say that when they also said they’d grant anyone immunity to come forward,that tell’s me alot!if it weren’t involved in the same case why offer that?
Me, yes where could she go… she’s out of favor with ex-in-laws… Ma and Pa… living in 1 room.
I think bail is high because these people are a flight risk and because THEY broke the law. Is LE going to try and use it to their advantage? You bet! But LE didn’t force these crackheads to sell drugs! I mean, do we all not remember Misty’s infamous 911 call when she got roughed up buying or selling dope before? This is NOT their first rodeo. They have been dealing drugs for a LONG time and have for the most part gotten away with it. Time to pay their dues! All Misty talks about is getting out of Florida, heading to Mass. WELL HELLO! If you want bail, that’s not the thing to be saying! That SCREAMS flight risk! Hank and Lisa talk about getting out of town!
If you didn’t know these people and were just read their wrap sheet, you’d say “THEY ARE WHERE THEY BELONG…LOCK THEM UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY”…..but somehow some feel they are getting a raw deal. THEY BROKE THE LAW PEOPLE! How many road rage incidents, burglarized houses, forged checks, missing children, drug possession charges, drug trafficking charges, etc., do these people have to have before we ALL realize they are where they are because of THEIR actions and rightfully so? They get NO sympathy from me! They’re all screaming for special attention, special privileges, and everyone is ready to give it to them. I say lock em’ up, throw away the key, forget about them and let them do the time for the crime they committed. Oh, and if they’d LIKE to come clean about Haleigh, that would be great….but they STILL need to sit their lazy, thieving, drug dealing, scum sucking arses behind bars for a LONG time! But that’s JMO.
cent, the charges I saw against R that had been dismissed were not a lot. Two that were listed were when he was a minor. One was for underage drinking. Two other charges involved drugs and those I don’t know what happened to. And another one was for fighting or threatening someone. Those are the only charges that I’ve seen. And if that is all there was they seem to have been blown all out of proportion.
My Lord Me,really?? sec,brb
http://www.familywatchdog.us/ShowNameList.asp
This is her! brb again
Oh JB I love what you said!!!!! If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck well…………….its a DUCK!!!!!
Hi, JB! I have not been able to keep up totally recently but I have not seen anyone here say they’re getting a raw deal. Have you?
I so agree JB! These people are where they belong. If they want to do the right thing and help LE find this child then they will get a break. I see nothing wrong with that at all.
CathyJo…yep! I’ve posted it a number of times over a period of months, but you are the first person to notice!
If you check intelius, you will see that Hilda and Chad are related. In fact, it appears he is possibly related to as many as 5 RSOs living close to Glen St Mary.
CathyJo @ 4:38 – I had not heard that LE offered immunity to anyone. When was that?
NO ONE is saying they don’t deserve to be in jail for selling the pills… We all know that they chose to do that…Yes, they broke the law(s). We are speaking about the high bail, that serial rapists don’t even get knocked with. I don’t believe LE considers them a “flight” risk… why should they… LE knew Misty’s whereabouts when she was backpacking around the states with Donna.
Overview Property Criminal Relatives Street View Social Search Bankruptcies Sex Offenders
5 Relatives Found 7 Neighbors Found 5 Likely Matches Criminal Records Personal Information
Aliases: None
Age: 44
Date of Birth: 10/30/1965
Phone: 758-8491
Last Known Address: 1593C RR 2
Starke, FL 32091
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Lake City, FL
Live Oak, FL
Lake Butler, FL
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6 1231 PO Box Starke FL 32091
7 7193 Po Lake City FL 32055
8 7193 PO Box Lake City FL 32055
9 279 E Leon St Lake City FL 32055
10 84 PO Box Live Oak FL 32064
bac…plus, mom and pop have their own criminal records and upcoming court appearances, so I doubt the Court would consider their home a suitable place for her to go to???
Result Details
Name: Hilda Ruth Griffis
Age: 44
Date of Birth: 10/30/1965
Sex: Female
Alias: GRIFFIS, HILDA RUTH
Race: White (includes Mexi
Weight: 0
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Court Record ID: 0499000567CFMB
Source Name: FL Department of Law Enforcement (AOC)
Offense: LEWDLY FONDLE OR ASSAULT, COMMIT OR SIMULATE SEXUAL ACTS ON OR IN PRESENCE OF A CHILD UNDER 16 IN A LEWD, LASCIVIOUS OR INDECENT MANNER
Charge Category: Criminal
Offense Code: 0800.04
Source State: FL
Offense Date: 10/26/1999
Offense Code: 0800.04
Source: flaoc
2 Hilda Ruth Griffis 44 FL 10/30/1965
If they want their bail reduced then they should cooperate with the Haleigh investigation. LE is doing what they need to do to find Haleigh. I back LE 100 %.
Result Details
Name: Hilda Ruth Griffis
Age: 44
Date of Birth: 10/30/1965
Height: 5’07”
Sex: Female
Alias: Hilda Griffis
Race: White
Weight: 210
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Hair Color: Brown
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State: FL
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JB….Misty just turned 18 and is a first time offender. Are you seriously suggesting they should throw away the key? Wow. Many teenagers make stupid mistakes.
Me, I noticed the So stuff… I don’t really comment on it only because I don’t know the “relations” to the key players. But yes, it has been noted.
Result Details
Name: Hilda Ruth Griffis
Age: 44
Date of Birth: 10/30/1965
Height: 5’07”
Sex: Female
Alias: Hilda R Coleman
Race: White
Weight: 210
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Hair Color: Brown
Scars/Marks: SCAR RIGHT ARM:OUTER WRIST
State: FL
Offense Details
Court Record ID: 328993024610301
Source Name: FL Sex Offender Registry
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My God!
My God,these ppl have alot of perverts in the family tree!
looking for justice: Please hold off on judging until we look into R’s supposed priors that he got off on. The only list I saw was pretty short and included a couple of things as a minor which was YEARS ago! I’m afraid that story got blown up bigger than it is.
Not sure, though.
Hilda R Griffis 5 Possible Relatives!
Aliases:
Hilda R Coleman
44 Lake City, FL
Live Oak, FL
Starke, FL
Harvey L Griffis
Nellie M Griffis
Maxie N Griffis
Nelda H Wilkinson
Rose Marie Griffis
M2C – I rest my case…..see below
me said,in February 17th, 2010 at 4:27 pm PAW69 said,in February 17th, 2010 at 4:04 pm And when he talks about Haleigh. He doesn’t blame her for him being in jail like Misty and Tommy keep doing.
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I’ve never heard anyone BLAME Haleigh for them being in jail. What they said was that they were in jail because she went missing, which would appear to me to be true. They launched a big entrapment style sting against small time drug dealers, and I think they are right that it wouldn’t have happened, but for the fact Haleigh went missing.
GGM Sykes said Ron threatened someone with a gun when he was 17 wonder what that was all about? jmo
Me if I am not mistaken i heard that on n/g early on….sec i’ll find out for sure!
Looking… go here.
http://wheretruthlies.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/ronald-cummings-parental-skills/
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php
me said,in February 17th, 2010 at 4:50 pm JB….Misty just turned 18 and is a first time offender. Are you seriously suggesting they should throw away the key? Wow. Many teenagers make stupid mistakes.
ME – I’m suggesting she do the appropriate jail time assigned to the crime she did. Nothing more, nothing less. I don’t think for a minute this was her FIRST time selling drugs and if you believe that, you’re extremely naive. She called 911 when she got roughed up while buying or selling drugs once before. She’s done illegal drugs for what appears to be a long time. She endangered children with her drug activities. She’s been involved in fights and domestic disputes. She’s been involved in road rage incidents. She just FINALLY got caught committing a crime….and as the saying goes…don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. So, BOO HOO! She got CAUGHT! SHE ADMITS TO COMMITTING THE CRIME! Let’s move on to sentencing already!
to me,
tobias said,
in February 17th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Shockwave, They are putting blame on Haleigh for their problems not worrying about her and the Hank thing was totally for the cameras. jmo
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Someone did say it, which is why I asked what I asked. I just want to hear the truth. Speculating on what happened is just that, speculation. I’ve guessed myself about what may have happened. A statement saying that Misty is blaming Haleigh, without being able to quote what she said that actually shows that blame is just careless and just plain rumor. Rumors cause confusion instead of leading to the truth.
Can’t find it yet,will keep looking,tho i may be very mistaken,sorry if i am.lol
If i am the only one here who heard it,lol i am prolly wrong!
Shockwave…On one of the first tapes something was said by Misty like “The only reason I’m in jail is because of the Haleigh case” or “Because of Haleigh going missing”……the way it came across is that she didn’t commit a crime by selling/trafficking drugs across state lines, selling to an undercover, did nothing wrong, and that it was Haleigh’s fault she was in jail….more passing the blame and denying responsibility for her own actions. I don’t know the EXACT quote but you get the idea. It rubbed a lot of people the wrong way….
Heard what? That LE would grant immunity to who ever came clean? I heard that in one of the new conferences they held for HaLeigh in the start of this whole mess!
Hmmmm does anyone know if this about chad is true?????
I ran across it a second ago?? if it is true then cs was going to marry a predator,what have i missed??
AGAIN,I DON’T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE!
what about Misty Croslin,cousin,has every one forgot about him
Chad Eugene Reynolds, 25, was last seen Feb. 1 leaving his mother’s home in Ochlawaha, Fla.— about two hours from Haleigh’s home — police said. He was reported missing on Feb. 4.
Reynolds reportedly borrowed a car from a friend and then later called to say the vehicle had broken down near the Marion/Lake County Lines, according to the Marion County Sheriff’s Office. The car was located in an undisclosed location south of Marion County, but Reynolds was nowhere to be found.
Reynolds was sentenced in Putnum County — the same county where Haleigh was reported missing Feb. 10 — to seven years in prison for armed burglary and lewd and lascivious molestation of a child younger than 12. The incident happened in September of 2002.
Authorities said their first concern is Reynolds’ safety, but added that he will likely be arrested for failing to report to his probation officer.Reynolds was released in November 2008 and is on 10 years of community supervision, Ocala.com reports.
(The missing man’s mother, Debora Reynolds, told deputies he had borrowed a vehicle from a woman by the name of Amy Baker and drove it from the bar.
is this the same amy baker from ohio,
Amy Baker immunity in Kentucky as well. Her trial was set for November 7, 2007, in Maysville, Kentucky. Her charges were then dropped in early 2008
Marcus Fiesel was an American foster care child murder victim. On February 21, 2007 his foster mother Liz Carroll was convicted of murdering him. On, February 26, 2007, it was announced attorneys for his foster father, David Carroll had reached a plea agreement, which was finalized on Tuesday, February 27 at 8:30 A.M.}
Fiesel’s incinerated remains were discovered on an 88-acre (360,000 m2) estate owned by Mike Cales in Brown County, Ohio. Police said that Liz and David Carroll had left Fiesel locked in a closet, bound with a blanket and packing tape,[7]while they attended a family reunion in Williamstown, Kentucky August 4-August 6, 2006. This was confirmed by Liz Carroll in testimony before a grand jury on August 28, 2006; she claimed, “I didn’t have any intentions of hurting him.”[8] Fiesel was left without food or water, but authorities believed he was killed by heat rather than dehydration or starvation, as temperatures in the closet may have reached 105-110°F. They found him dead when they returned home. Authorities believed it was David Carroll and Amy Baker who incinerated Fiesel’s body. Amy Baker was granted immunity in Ohio in return for testimony, but is currently facing extradition from Ohio to Kentucky for a Tampering with Evidence charge against her brought up by Mason County, Kentucky. Amy Baker confessed to helping to dispose of the body in the Ohio River. The charges against her have now been dropped.[6][9]
Chad Eugene Reynolds, 25, a registered sexual predator missing from his Ocklawaha home since Feb. 1, had told a friend he’d be waiting for her in a Dumpster near the Summerfield Wal-Mart that night.Debora Reynolds said that, while the outlook is bleak, she continues to hand out fliers and talk to people about her son
ty new,I thought i had heard that on n/g!
CathyJo, Misty’s cousin’s name is Joe, and Chad Reynolds is not engaged to Crystal Sheffield
Cathy, Crystal’s beau is Chad griffis
Sorry,I can’t remember all these names! Shewwwwwwww
To me @ 4:34 – I think Lisa already went to court on the stolen check charge. I don’t have the penalty at my fingertips but basically no jail time, probation, etc.
T has not gone to court yet on the B & Es. I’m sure he could have traded the gun that he probably stole for drugs. No need for any special kind of bad guy to deal with for the gun. IMO
Chad Griffis,aint Griffis her last name or are they cousins for real?
CathyJo63 said,
in February 17th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Chad Griffis,aint Griffis her last name or are they cousins for real?
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Crystal is his step-sister.
CathyJo @ 5:12 – Yes I think the info about Chad Reynolds is true. It’s not Crystal’s former fiance though.
What I have never understood is why LE hasn’t put more importance on his whereabouts since Haleigh went missing not long after he did.
I think I am more confused now than ever!
I mean my Lord how many perverts,thieves and God only knows what are in this thing?
Oh,Ok Adams..gotcha and ron has a sister crystal right?
CathyJo – Chad Griffis is Crystal Sheffield’s step brother.
Yes, pretty gross, but not against the law, and not uncommon. There is no blood relation, that is known!!
m2c♥ said,in February 17th, 2010 at 5:28 pm CathyJo @ 5:12 – Yes I think the info about Chad Reynolds is true. It’s not Crystal’s former fiance though.
What I have never understood is why LE hasn’t put more importance on his whereabouts since Haleigh went missing not long after he did.
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Me either,M2…I sure don’t know how Misty is the ONLY key?
Even the damn females are perverts! Dango!
JB @ 5:06 – That’s true and it was a stupid thing for M to say however it is probably true. I don’t think LE would have targeted her or possibly even the others at this time if it wasn’t for Haleigh gone missing. Not that I care. Maybe locking them up will help solve Haleigh’s disappearance and of course they WERE breaking the law. But essentially, M’s right.
Me either M2,its obvious thats the reason they’re in jail now but I am not saying they’re innocent.i really dunno but thats bs!
Yes… here is Ronald’s sister Crystal
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/2/20/amber_alert_croslin39s_cousin_questioned_in_haleigh_case.html
What really got me about Chad Reynolds being missing is that I read that LE was presuming he’s dead. Why? I guess that looks better on their records than “We’ve lost track of another RSO.” THOUSANDS of RSOs have fallen off the grid all over the country. LE can’t find them. 200 from Georgia alone! It’s a HUGE problem. But with this guy Chad it’s like LE wants to forget him. Doesn’t make sense to me at all.
In the 3rd tape Misty says we are not the only bad people then changes it after she realizes what she has said. The first impression is usually the truth. She also starts incriminating other people, throwing others under the bus. People in jail dont like snitches Misty you better watch what you are saying to LE and the public. Some may have relatives that will tell them what you are saying. jmo
Makes me wonder since Hank said the gun thieves had ratted M and them out….then the gun M said she found in the culvert……Tommy was accused of stealing.right?
And didn’t they take a shotgun from Lindseys home after the drug bust?
Image 6 on the slideshow… sorry, I couldn’t resist.
JB @ 5:01 – Right but they can’t charge her with anything besides what they arrested her for in this last sting. And normally she might get a reduced/light sentence – if they treat her like any other first-time offender and if there is a fair trial.
I’m afraid that’s what her attorney is holding out for and why he is not going to let her make a “deal” with LE for info about Haleigh.
IDK.
Right M2,Its all crazy!
M2C – yes, it is M’s right, just like it is mine. I was merely responding when you asked me a question. I’m not going to say anyone’s thoughts or comments are stupid as everyone is entitled to their opinion. I was just voicing mine.
I refuse to make LE the bad guy for getting drug dealers off the street. These people already knew they were in the limelight so doing something as stupid as dealing drugs was about as dumb as you can get. LE didn’t trump up any charges. These people committed crimes and were caught…simple as that….the fact that they were in the spotlight by LE due to the Haleigh case doesn’t make LE opportunistic, it makes these people REALLY stupid.
Letting them roam the streets for the last year sure hasn’t helped find Haleigh so maybe having them locked up will. At least there will be a few less burglaries, dead rats in mailboxes, and drug deals happening with them behind bars. It’s a win win situation…IMHO
CathyJo – LE did not find a gun at Lindsy’s even though they knew one had been stolen from the same home the other stuff that they did find was from. So they can’t really get T on the gun theft in that incident I don’t think.
I don’t know much about the other gun things except the gun that T stole from his blind neighbor.
Tommy probably sold the gun to someone else or traded it for drugs….the gun will show up someday…probably be used in another crime…but it is doubtful at this point it will get traced back to Tommy. Just another crime one of these dopeheads got away with.
LE probably realizes Chad met with a bad end. People more than likely had it in for him and He doesnt look that smart not to show up somewhere. He never even picked up his last check where he was working and had no money on him. He is probably in some land fill and no cares to go dig him up. jmo
Ya know,we all think Misty has lied but not about Haleigh.but ok,if a gun were stolen from you why would you lift up a board in a culvert looking for it,Maybe M was going to trade it or sell it but ron went off on her bro so she had to make sure he got it back?? I mean unless it was used in a crime i sure wouldn’t look in my yard?
I swear to God,Im gonna go back to bed and start over.lol
Does anyone get the feeling the redacted parts on the tapes may involve Ron, Misty rolls on his entire family doing drugs in the 3 rd tape and no mention of Ron. They may have removed that part. I KEEP HAVING TO REMIND MYSELF THAT PARTS ARE MISSING. JMO
CathyJo…yup….multiple families involved but somehow I think they all might share at least a few limbs of a family tree! YIKES! LMAO
JB @ 5:39 –
I think we had a misunderstanding. I said M was stupid for saying that because as we see here people are interpreting it as M blaming Haleigh for the trouble she’s in. I don’t see it that way although it could be true. I think it’s more likely that M is blaming LE because they have always targeted her about Haleigh. I don’t think M is blaming Haleigh.
As far as the rest of your post I agree. Except that I do think LE was opportunistic AND I think the people currently in jail were/are stupid. Yes of course it’s their fault. No question about that.
JB said,in February 17th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
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JB, I totally agree.
Does anyone know under FL statutes, exactly what it would have been called that Ron could have been charged with if the situation was that Haleigh had OD’d while his girlfriend was watching the children? One would assume that he could have lost custody of Jr. in such a case. (I’m not interested in the age of consent issue.)IMO.
Tobias – I’ve about stopped listening and watching the tapes and videos….all the good stuff is redacted….so you just get snippets and disjointed conversations that you can barely understand. I’ve about decided to leave the tape and video viewing to LE….and of course NG! She can’t resist running with these videos and playing them over and over and over and over…..UGH!
Suspect Information #1 Suspect Location:
Name: CROSLIN HANK THOMAS JR
Address: 116 TYLER ST Apt./Lot #:
City: SATSUMA State: FLORIDA Zip: 32189
Home Phone # Bus. Phone # Ext.
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#3 GRAND THEFT -A FIREARM LESS THAN $300
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Jail Booking# OBTS No. Miranda Warnings Given: No
Witness/Complainant Information: #5 Type: WITNESS
Name: CROSLIN LINDSY KATE
Address: 116 TYLER ST Apt./Lot #:
City: SATSUMA State: FLORIDA Zip: 32189
Home Phone # (386)-983-3620 Bus. Phone # Ext.
Place of Employ /School: n/a
Race: WHITE Sex: Female DOB: 12/9/1986 Age: 23
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Property Section: ITEM NO. #1
Type Code: FIREARMS
Status Code: STOLEN / ETC.
Weapon Type: SHOTGUN Weapon Desc.: PUMP ACTION
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Has rust on barrel next to stock. Has slip on rubber butt with black tape wrapped around the butt plate
Value Stolen or Damaged: $350.00 Value Recovered: $0.00
Disposition of Evidence / Property: NA Full-Automatic Firearm: NA
Property Owned By: Victim #1 HARDWICKE, VERNIE MAY
Property Received From: Victim / Complaint Signed Signature Card: N.A.
Ok,I found it,lol m2
Alethea…I don’t know what it would be called – I assume child endangerment….that could be another reason he helped cover up a crime or accident….because he could face charges.
Tobias @ 5:41 – Didn’t that Chad go missing right before Haleigh did? If so, then if I was LE I would keep him on my list – and keep wanted posters out for him – for that reason alone. Maybe he didn’t NEED his last check if he got $ for Haleigh, you know?
Does anyone know how Tommy’s court date went today? Or where such info can be found, if possible?
And Misty said some guy is writing her that she doesn’t know — so it’s possible for anyone to mail anyone who is in jail?
If that’s true, how does one go about doing that? What are the rules? Where can I find this information? I appreciate any help with this.
On 20 January 2010, during an interview of Misty Croslin, by Detective John Merchant, in an unrelated case,
Misty made the post-Miranda statements during a recorded interview, that her brother Hank “Tommy” Croslin Jr
had several items in their residence that had been stolen in a recent burglary at an unknown location. Misty
stated she witnessed several household items (ie toiletries, a Gatorade bottle containing miscellaneous coins)
and knew the items did not belong in their residence. As a result of Misty’s statements it was learned the
residence next door to the Croslin’s had been burglarized during the night before Misty’s interview. The victim’s
reported only that a 12 gauge shotgun was stolen at the time the incident was reported. Contact was
subsequently made with Lindsy Croslin, Tommy’s spouse, and asked if she had witnessed a shotgun being
brought into her residence in the past 24 hours. Lindsy stated she had not seen any firearms and the Sheriff’s
Office was more than willing to help her search her residence for the item because she did not want her children
to locate a gun. During the search, several containers of alcohol were located stashed in the top of the master
bedroom closet and numerous folded towels were discovered in the master bedroom bathroom. Though the
firearm was never located in or around the residence it was later learned that all of the bath towels, bottles of
liquor as well as numerous other toiletries were indeed stolen from the residence at XXX Tyler Street, along with
the stolen shotgun.
On 21 January 2010, while continuing the investigation of the residential burglary at XXX Tyler Street in Satsuma I
learned from Lindsy Croslin that she had located items at her residence that did not belong to anyone at the
household and she believed her husband, Hank Croslin Jr, had stolen the items and kept them at their
residence. The items she recognized as not belonging to anyone in the residence was the items listed above as
well as several DVD movies and (4) Gameboy games. Lindsy had already gathered the items and had them
awaiting law enforcement for recovery.
I retrieved the items from the Croslin residence and shed in hopes of identifying where the items had been taken
from. Several neighbors on Tyler Street indicated to myself that Hank Croslin Jr, aka Tommy, was often seen
walking up and down the roadways late at night so they believed any other items that were recovered would be
from the immediate area. As a result of further investigative endeavors I discovered the residence at XXX Tyler
St had its rear screened porch door cut open as well as a rear window pried open and also a broken locking
mechanism from an exterior shed. The residence owner(s), Karen J. Paulsen, was ultimately contacted and
confirmed that the residence had indeed been burglarized.
On 22 January 2010, I responded back to the area of Tyler Street in hopes of the home owner or designee, at XXX Tyler Street, being able to positively identify any items stolen from the residence. Upon arrival, contact was
made with the key holder for XXX Tyler Street, Peggy Hayes, who identified the toiletries, golf cart battery charger
and blender as belonging to the residence at XXX Tyler Street. The items were processed for latent prints and
signed over to Hayes, per the home owner, Karen Paulson.
With the above information, a warrant charging Hank “Tommy” Croslin for the burglary and grand theft from 120
Tyler Street will be sought. Charges stemming from XXX Tyler Street will be forwarded at a later time for further
review.
Handouts:
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Case Cleared CLEARED BY ARREST (DETECTIVE)
CRIME ANALYSIS
Aggravated Assault/Murder: NOT APPLICABLE
SUP Page 5 of 6 Date Printed: 1/28/2010 JEFF HARDY, SHERIFF 2010-577-1 SUP
Type of Weapon: NOT APPLICABLE (NONE)
Forced Entry:FORCIBLE (enters locked structure/with intent to commit felony) Structure Occupancy Code:
Location Type: Residence-Home
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I wonder if Tommy knows she turned that stuff over! I know he knows Misty ratted but wonder if he knows L did?
Sheesh…when would Tommy have time to work a real job…he’s up all night burglarizing the neighbors and trafficking/selling drugs during the day…and stoned the rest of the time….such a busy, busy boy! LMAO Lord, anyone who doesn’t believe these people deserve to be in jail need to take another look!
thewoodlanddark said,
in February 17th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Does anyone know how Tommy’s court date went today? Or where such info can be found, if possible?
And Misty said some guy is writing her that she doesn’t know — so it’s possible for anyone to mail anyone who is in jail?
If that’s true, how does one go about doing that? What are the rules? Where can I find this information? I appreciate any help with this
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Who knows…and who really cares? I saw your post on the other thread, and you made a statement about others judging the family, yet you judged us… Why are you really here?
I almost expect to see headlines “SATSUMA CRIME DROPS 98% IN ONE MONTH” all because these freaks are locked up! ROFLMAO
LoL@jb
alethea – I think it would have been a hotly contested court battle to decide if R should be held responsible for what happened when he was not there.
LE would have to prove that he was negligent and how would they do that? How would they PROVE he “knew” M had been on a drug binge the weekend before? And even so, that was the weekend BEFORE. And LE would have to prove that whatever Haleigh OD’d on was HIS illegal dope or something.
I don’t think that would be a slam dunk case.
Sadly LOTS of children get into Rx’s, liquor, household cleaners etc and sometimes LE can charge the parent or caregiver and sometimes they can’t. It’s not a sure thing at all.
JB, makes you wonder how this guy never got shot. Breaking in and robbing is pretty brash, even if he knew no one was home someone could have come back while he was inside. I still have a feeling he used the opportunity he had when he was at Rons MH earlier in the day to unlock that backdoor so he could rob it later that night. jmo
UCN: 542002CF002133XXAXMX
File Date: 2002-12-12 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: SIKES, LARRY E
Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2002-12-12 1 ARREST REPORT – PCSO (ARREST 12/12/2002)
2002-12-12 1 POSSESSION OF COCAINE
2002-12-12 1 POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
2002-12-12 1 POSSESSION OF CANNABIS UNDER 20 GRAMS
2002-12-12 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION
2002-12-12 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
2002-12-12 1 BOND SET AT $ 2,504 SECURED BLANKET
2002-12-12 2 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2002-12-12 3 APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2002-12-12 4 $ 2,504 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED – # 365649
2003-01-20 5 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (01-28-2003) DRUG COURT
2003-01-20 6 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (01-28-2003) DRUG COURT
2003-01-21 10 INFORMATION (CT 1-POSSESSION OF COCAINE, CT 2-
2003-01-21 10 POSSESSION OF CANNABIS LESS THAN 20 GRAMS)
2003-01-28 7 DRUG COURT HEARING MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY KURT
2003-01-28 7 TEIFKE, COURT DIRECTED DEFENDANT MAKE AND KEEP
2003-01-28 7 APPOINTMENT WITH PUBLIC DEFENDER AND TREATMENT
2003-01-28 7 PROVIDER, NEXT HEARING SET 02/04/2003
2003-01-28 8 NOTICE GIVEN TO DEFENDANT IN COURT FOR NEXT COURT DATE
2003-02-04 9 DRUG HEARING MINUTES: DEFENDANT NOT PRESENT, ATTENDED BY
2003-02-04 9 KURT TEIFKE, DEFENDANT NOT INTERESTED IN DRUG COURT,
2003-02-04 9 DEFT DECLINED DRUG COURT, DEFT WILL FOLLOW TRADITIONAL
2003-02-04 9 COURT DOCKET
2003-02-05 11 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (02-26-2003)
2003-02-26 12 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, SWORN, ARRAIGNED,
2003-02-26 12 PUBLIC DEFENDER APPOINTED, ENTERED PLEA OF NOT GUILTY,
2003-02-26 12 SET FOR PRE TRIAL 04/01/2003 AND TRIAL 04/01/2003.
2003-02-26 13 APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2003-02-26 14 ORDER SETTING PRE TRIAL 04/01/2003
2003-02-26 15 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (04-01-2003)
2003-02-26 16 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, SWORN, ARRAIGNED,
2003-02-26 16 PUBLIC DEFENDER APPOINTED, ENTERED PLEA OF NOT GUILTY,
2003-02-26 16 SET FOR PRE TRIAL 04/01/2003 AND TRIAL 05/05/2003.
2003-02-26 17 APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2003-02-26 18 ORDER SETTING PRE TRIAL 04/01/2003
2003-03-05 19 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (04-01-2003)
2003-04-01 20 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY LARRY SIKES
2003-04-01 20 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
2003-04-01 20 CONTINUED TO 05/27/2003
2003-04-08 22 SUBSTANCE ABUSE OFFENDER REFERRAL AGREEMENT
2003-04-10 21 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (05-27-2003)
2003-05-27 23 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: ON MOTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA
2003-05-27 23 THE CASE WAS ORDERED NOLLE PROSEQUI IN OPEN COURT
2003-05-27 24 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NOLLE PROSEQUI – ENT CIR CT MIN
2003-05-27 24 BK 374 PG 597
*********************************here are the drug charges I think m2?? was referring too earlier!
UCN: 542004CF002063XXAXMX
File Date: 2004-11-16 Judge: A W NICHOLS III
Defense Atty: FELICIANO, SHARON
Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2004-11-16 1 ARREST REPORT – PCSO EDGAR (ARREST 11/12/04)
2004-11-16 1 POSSESSION OF CANNABIS IN EXCESS OF 20 GRAMS
2004-11-16 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
2004-11-16 1 MAINTAINING A DRUG VEHICLE
2004-11-16 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING 11/13/04
2004-11-16 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY
2004-11-16 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
2004-11-16 2 $2012.00 UNSECURED BOND SET 11/13/04
2004-11-16 3 TRAFFIC CITATION – #7877-DBJ 2
2004-11-16 4 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2004-11-16 5 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING
2004-11-16 6 APPEARANCE BOND – UNSECURED $ 2,012
2004-12-03 7 INFORMATION (CT 1-POSSESSION OF CANNABIS IN EXCESS
2004-12-03 7 OF 20 GRAMS)
2004-12-07 8 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (01-07-2005)
2005-01-07 9 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, SWORN, ARRAIGNED,
2005-01-07 9 PUBLIC DEFENDER APPOINTED, ENTERED PLEA OF NOT GUILTY,
2005-01-07 9 SET FOR PRE TRIAL 02/03/2005.
2005-01-07 10 AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENT STATUS
2005-01-07 10 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED INDIGENT
2005-01-07 10 $40.00 APPLICATION FEE IMPOSED
2005-01-07 11 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2005-01-07 12 ORDER SETTING PRE TRIAL 02/03/2005
2005-01-07 13 NOTICE GIVEN TO DEFENDANT IN COURT FOR NEXT COURT DATE
2005-01-10 14 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-03-2005)
2005-01-18 15 DRUG COURT HEARING MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY KURT
2005-01-18 15 TEIFKE, COURT DIRECTED DEFENDANT MAKE AND KEEP
2005-01-18 15 APPOINTMENT WITH PUBLIC DEFENDER AND TREATMENT
2005-01-18 15 PROVIDER, NEXT HEARING SET 01/25/2005
2005-01-18 16 NOTICE GIVEN TO DEFENDANT IN COURT FOR NEXT COURT DATE
2005-01-25 17 DRUG COURT HEARING MINUTES: DEFENDANT PRESENT, DEFT MET WITH
2005-01-25 17 PUBLIC DEFENDER, DEFT SCREENED BY TREATMENT AND DEEMED
2005-01-25 17 APPROPRIATE FOR DRUG COURT, DEFT DECLINED THE DRUG COURT
2005-01-25 17 PROGRAM, DEFT WILL FOLLOW TRADITIONAL COURT DOCKET
2005-02-03 18 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY SHARON FELICIANO
2005-02-03 18 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
2005-02-03 18 CONTINUED TO 09/08/2005
2005-02-03 18 ADI – LEVEL II
2005-02-07 19 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (09-08-2005)
2005-03-03 20 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY SHARON FELICIANO,
2005-03-03 20 DEFT SWORN, W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C, ADVISED
2005-03-03 20 MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE, PSI WAIVED,
2005-03-03 20 PLEA ACCEPTED, SENTENCING SET SAME DAY
2005-03-03 20 ADJUDICATION OF GUILT WITHHELD
2005-03-03 20 $370.00 COURT COSTS (6 MONTHS TO PAY)
2005-03-03 20 ADI PROGRAM – LEVEL II
2005-09-08 21 CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION OF ADI LEVEL II PROGRAM
2005-09-08 21 $370.00 COURT COST PAID
2005-11-14 22 $370.00 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
JB @ 6:01 – Are you referring to things people have said on other web sites? I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone here say that these people don’t belong in jail. I’m confused about what you are referring to.
m2c♥ said,in February 17th, 2010 at 6:04 pm alethea – I think it would have been a hotly contested court battle to decide if R should be held responsible for what happened when he was not there.
LE would have to prove that he was negligent and how would they do that? How would they PROVE he “knew” M had been on a drug binge the weekend before? And even so, that was the weekend BEFORE. And LE would have to prove that whatever Haleigh OD’d on was HIS illegal dope or something.
I don’t think that would be a slam dunk case.
Sadly LOTS of children get into Rx’s, liquor, household cleaners etc and sometimes LE can charge the parent or caregiver and sometimes they can’t. It’s not a sure thing at all.
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Thanks. That’s the thing that kept occurring to me.
SUBSTANCE ABUSE OFFENDER REFERRAL AGREEMENT
This could be why he wasnt charged, there are agreements made to go for treatment and charges are dropped if you complete the program. jmo
Thank you, CathyJo!
If I am reading all of that legalese correctly, those represent three arrests.
One was 8 years ago (12/12/02). Was R a minor then?
Another was 6 years ago (11/16/04)
And the next was a month later on 12/03/04.
And all those were adjudicated. So, to me, that’s not the long list of big “get out of jail free” cards that I’ve heard so much gossip about.
Because he made statement along with TN that He and Misty had argued on Sunday night about the past weekend. And then there are the 20 pings to Misty that night. He even threw her clothes in NayNays front yard ,he knew where and who she was with. jmo
beautiful —
I don’t know why I’m here. I can’t really do anything to help. There are — how many missing children in the U.S.? I don’t know why I’m so hung up on this one little girl I’ve never even met, and whose family would have had me running in the opposite direction if I had met her. I know there are families like this right down the street and the only real difference between them and the Croslin/Cummings families is that so far they have managed to not neglect their children to death or have any of them suddenly disappear.
I apologize for upsetting anyone. I have cabin fever and a broken heart for this kid.
And perhaps I’m letting to much of my own baggage slip in here and there — I was raised Christian but left the church as a teen due to an abundance of un-Christ-like behavior, such as judging people based upon their appearance, or based upon the actions of their relatives, or for bad choices they made, et cetera. RATHER than forgiving, aiding, praying for, et cetera.
m2c♥ said,in February 17th, 2010 at 6:16 pm Thank you, CathyJo!
If I am reading all of that legalese correctly, those represent three arrests.
One was 8 years ago (12/12/02). Was R a minor then?
Another was 6 years ago (11/16/04)
And the next was a month later on 12/03/04.
And all those were adjudicated. So, to me, that’s not the long list of big “get out of jail free” cards that I’ve heard so much gossip about.
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You’re welcome,I just happened to be on that page and remembered you were replying to someone about it!
*too much
I hate typos.
Tobias, still it’s not a slam dunk case of negligence. I’m just commenting on that because people keep wondering about it. And even if LE could prove he knew where she was that weekend, how do they prove he knew what she was doing? Sounds like a typical squablle to me. That does not mean he’s responsible for what happened two nights after returning from it.
I’m not saying he’s not responsible (in a way) but as far as charging and prosecuting him for it, it’s a long shot.
beautiful —
Also, please do not try to turn this into “you all” versus me. For one thing, not everyone here agrees with everything you have to say. For another, I did not judge every single poster.
I have the right to ask whatever questions about this case I want — apparently I have the right to contact the family while they are in jail if I want.
I was under the impression everyone here wanted the same thing — to know what’s happened to haleigh.
M2C, Have you ever wondered why we are never told what Ron was doing the weekend and it seems only his relatives are saying he was cutting trees. Does LE know something about his were abouts that isnt public knowledge? They have stated that they were checkinginto the activities of everyone weeks and days before. That sparked my curiosity thats all. jmo
*Haleigh
You know… Ron has a criminal history!!! It’s fact and it’s there for the reading! I can not understand why the amount of those charges matters, other than to prove he has a record.
If I’m not mistaken Ron told Cobra and Tim M where she’d been!
cent, I only commented because for months and months all we heard was all this talk about this huge lengthy criminal history and how LE had let R off the hook etc. What I see as FACT finally doesn’t add up to all the hype that I’d read before.
I never doubted that R had a record but it seems to have been highly exaggerated. I expected much much more and more recently too. But three arrests 6 – 8 years ago?
thewoodlanddark said,in February 17th, 2010 at 6:24 pm beautiful —
Also, please do not try to turn this into “you all” versus me. For one thing, not everyone here agrees with everything you have to say. For another, I did not judge every single poster.
I have the right to ask whatever questions about this case I want — apparently I have the right to contact the family while they are in jail if I want.
I was under the impression everyone here wanted the same thing — to know what’s happened to haleigh.
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We do want the same thing but we don’t want to be judged by our opinions either,sorry but you sound a little resentful or something and we just happened to notice it b/c it’s the 1st thing you did…….imo sorry but true!
And yes you do have a right to do what you want to do!But respect others opinions too even if you disagree!
Mistys lawyer must not be telling her much because she keeps wondering when they go to court and wishes it were soon so she would know what she is facing. Then she keeps telling herself thatthey cant keep her forever they have to let her out. I think we will see activity after she goes into court. jmo
Also, please do not try to turn this into “you all” versus me. For one thing, not everyone here agrees with everything you have to say. For another, I did not judge every<—- single poster.
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Tobias, we have not been told a heck of a lot by LE. That’s the strategy they took from the beginning. Wondering why they haven’t said this or that is fruitless. They are telling us as little as possible and only what they want us to know (or want us to believe). Any one particular thing may or may not have significance. IDK.
I agree Adams,if you have a rap sheet of a thousand different crimes it still don’t make you a murderer!
bb soon,gotta run to the store!
CathyJo63,
It’s not the first thing I did. I’ve posted before, but not for a few months. I don’t post often, but am present and as much of this “group” as anyone else.
I didn’t mean to disrespect others’ opinions, but I did want to express my own. Is it okay for you but not for me? Seems a lot of people are being defensive. Yes, including me.
I’ll try more carefully in the future to find a way to disagree without disrespecting.
shockwave said,in February 17th, 2010 at 5:01 pm to me,
tobias said,
in February 17th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Shockwave, They are putting blame on Haleigh for their problems not worrying about her and the Hank thing was totally for the cameras. jmo
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Someone did say it, which is why I asked what I asked. I just want to hear the truth. Speculating on what happened is just that, speculation. I’ve guessed myself about what may have happened. A statement saying that Misty is blaming Haleigh, without being able to quote what she said that actually shows that blame is just careless and just plain rumor. Rumors cause confusion instead of leading to the truth.
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And ITA…some above misquoted me with cut and pastes, but I agree with you 100% on this point. I have never heard them blame Haleigh.
Tobias @ 6:33 – That’s what I’ve been saying for a couple of weeks now. It sounds like M’s lawyer is not keeping her informed or making her face the facts. I don’t understand it.
I assume she has a lawyer, right?
And the same with T. He thought he could bond out! He doesn’t seem to know what “revoked” means. It’s incredible.
Of course the tapes we are hearing are from a while back but still they’d been in jail for 10 days to two weeks and still didn’t know jack about their bail and stuff. I am perplexed.
thewoodlanddark said,
in February 17th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
beautiful —
Also, please do not try to turn this into “you all” versus me. For one thing, not everyone here agrees with everything you have to say. For another, I did not judge every single poster.
I have the right to ask whatever questions about this case I want — apparently I have the right to contact the family while they are in jail if I want.
I was under the impression everyone here wanted the same thing — to know what’s happened to haleigh.
to
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I guess you have some magical powers, you’ll be able to extract what others have not been able to do. You don’t know jack about me… like I said I read your other comment on the other thread… maybe you should go back and read it again. I see you as an inserter! Everyone here, knows I don’t expect them to agree with me, and they know that I RESPECT them for their HONESTY!!
M2C… No worries… really.
I follow no religious doctrine forbidding me from judging others. Why am I being judged by people telling me not to judge? ARGH!
seek the truth that leads to Haleigh
seek the truth that leads to Haleigh
seek the truth that leads to Haleigh
And if you think you can run me off by bullying me, forget it.
Can we stop doing this please? We’re both wrong.
me @ 6:38 – I agree. I think T and M are blaming the disappearance of Haleigh and the fact that M is targeted by LE about that. But not blaming Haleigh. There is a HUGE difference.
And what am I being dishonest about?
“Misty, blaming little Haleigh.” Gee, where did that liner get its christening and big send off?!
Cathy… you are right… it doesn’t make anyone a murderer… and I still believe Ron did NOT harm HaLeigh directly.
Whatever happened, and whoever did it, Misty would have reacted the same way. Some people like to have their cake and eat it too. They can’t resist the opportunity. In my opinion.
thewoodlanddark said,in February 17th, 2010 at 6:38 pm CathyJo63,
It’s not the first thing I did. I’ve posted before, but not for a few months. I don’t post often, but am present and as much of this “group” as anyone else.
I didn’t mean to disrespect others’ opinions, but I did want to express my own. Is it okay for you but not for me? Seems a lot of people are being defensive. Yes, including me.
I’ll try more carefully in the future to find a way to disagree without disrespecting.
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Thanx and I will too.lol I really meant no harm.just it’s the way it appeared that you were judging !
It attracts all kinds!!
Hey Cathy, it’s ill fitting:-)
Adam’s I do too,I’ll put it this way.if r or m is proven to have done it…it will shock the hell outta me,I don’t think for a sec. they know anything about Haleigh going missing!
Just no way!
I have abused drugs but I still loved and took care of my daughter!
Nobody is being bullied!!!! See thats why you’re offending some of us!
Very illfitting,LoL
I still believe there is a connection with their lifestyle. And the poor choices they have all made.
Cathy, she/he knows what they are doing!!!
m2c
Thanks for the info re Lisa.
I know that where I live, you would be hard pressed to find a drug dealer interested in taking a stolen gun for payment for drugs…they’d want cash without the hassles. Only a small percentage would also be dealing in weapons. Perhaps it’s different there.
Everyone–
I am sorry. It was really not my intention to start unnecessary drama. I am usually too shy to post — I have to be fairly worked up to actually “speak up” and it’s exactly when I shouldn’t.
I did not mean to judge. I am very sorry.
Thank you all so much for caring about Haleigh.
Right Adams@7:21
I do too,thats what made me think of the guns that john had been arrested for..and supposedly ratted on them for!
I wonder who Tallent is?
Well,don’t be shy here Wood,if anybody here has ever made a big a$# of themselves it’s me! I understand!
Yeah… the elusive Mr. Tallent!!
Cathy… it’s not the same… not at ALL!!
Right Adams,It seems to me almost that Misty reallllly knows’ this person!
View 4 More Profiles for Tallent
Name City State Email People Report
TALLENT SHARON Bradenton FL Available View Details
PHILLIP TALLENT PHILLIP J KALHORN Spring Hill FL Available View Details
PHILLIP TALLENT PHILLIP J KALHORN Spring Hill FL Available View Details
PHILLIP TALLENT PHILLIP J KALHORN Spring Hill FL Available View Details
O lord,I thought it was a rare name.lol there are 315 in fl!
JB said,in February 17th, 2010 at 6:02 pm I almost expect to see headlines “SATSUMA CRIME DROPS 98% IN ONE MONTH” all because these freaks are locked up! ROFLMAO
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What is there to ROFLMAO about? A child is missing, this is not funny.
Re crime dropping, I highly doubt it. There is no evidence Misty sold to anyone but the copper who set her up….they don’t have her on even one drug deal outside of those to do with the UC, which will no doubt make it easier for Fields to establish entrapment.
LE watched her for a month (and probably longer) and never saw even one other deal. Hardly a crime wave, when the only crimes committed were instigated by a police officer.
LoL @Adams,you crack me up!
Cathy, drop Tallent over at the site
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php
Whats the girls name again who was with Misty when they got busted for drugs…too many names in this thing? The one with her cam?
linda franks
no rabies
no,the one with mistys camera? a relative of rons?
Heck I’m prolly just goofy!Maybe i dreamed it Adams! LoL
Cathy, I’m sorry… Linda Franks was mentioned by Misty and Hank.
Katrina has her belongings
YEAAA,LoL I thought i had finally lost it!
TY Adams!
CathyJo,
Possibly Katrina Belcher. WS posters have said the record Annette and Teresa have is from their harrassment Katrina.
I’ve looked at the courthouse records for theit harrassment charges, but don’t recall if Katrina’s name is on them.
Oh Ok TY JB!i do recall belcher now!
Katrina Belcher may be Annette Sykes daughter. I believe she uses the name Katrina Sykes on her myspace page.
# Name Age Known Cities Possible Relatives
1 Katrina M Arbuckle
Aliases:
Katrina M Belcher
Katrina S Belcher
Katrina M Branham
Katrina M Sykes
43 Crescent City, FL
Lady Lake, FL
Lake Como, FL
Palatka, FL
Satsuma, FL
Ericwade Belcher
Brian Branham
Dorothy Annette Sykes
Myles K Sykes
John D Arbuckle
Sykes Sykes
John D Arbuckle
Eric Belcher
**********************this has gotta be her!
She is Katrina B. Sykes on myspace. Hope Sykes is one of her ‘friends’.
Hope Syke’s mom?
http://www.myspace.com/486859336
me @ 7:23 – I just imagined that a gun would be easy to sell for money or trade for drugs. That people would take them far away (to another state for example) to sell. But I don’t KNOW a thing about it! LOL!
Sorry!
It was just interesting that of all the things T took from that house – IF he took the gun- that is what was not at T’s house. Maybe he hid it elsewhere. Anyway, thanks for setting me straight on that!
So is she the one Ron was working for… the Lawn and Tree service?
Who are Hope’s parents?
I thought Ron said he worked for a company building bridges in the Geraldo interview!?
Believe Katrina is her mom
CathyJo63 said,
in February 17th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
I thought Ron said he worked for a company building bridges in the Geraldo interview!?
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Yes he did, but his mom said at the time of the arrest, he was to meet Misty after working on his tree trimming job.
Adams, according to a post at WS: Yes, she owns the lawn and tree service, and is the mother of Hope, and Teresa’s sister.
Thanks Jason… I thought I had read
Why would Katrina want to keep Misty’s phone, paper documents, etc?
Does anyone have at hand the original 911 call transcripts? Please put up the link if you do.
Jason… because, I’m thinking it’s more to Katrina being there, then has been said. Remember Misty’s diss on his family not being perfect????
You’re welcome, Adams!
Oh Ok Adam’sThanx!
CathyJo do you have that transcript? I need it
Not the Misty call, the 911 to PCSO call
Aah – maybe so, Adams. Incriminating photos, voice messages on the phone?
Is it a coincidence that one of the men we have been talking about today, has a sexual battery charge made against… some years back?
me said,in February 17th, 2010 at 7:35 pm JB said,in February 17th, 2010 at 6:02 pm I almost expect to see headlines “SATSUMA CRIME DROPS 98% IN ONE MONTH” all because these freaks are locked up! ROFLMAO
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What is there to ROFLMAO about? A child is missing, this is not funny.
Re crime dropping, I highly doubt it. There is no evidence Misty sold to anyone but the copper who set her up….they don’t have her on even one drug deal outside of those to do with the UC, which will no doubt make it easier for Fields to establish entrapment.
LE watched her for a month (and probably longer) and never saw even one other deal. Hardly a crime wave, when the only crimes committed were instigated by a police officer.
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I thought it was funny JB. It seems like some people try to get to other bloggers. Always disagreeing and throwing weird stuff out their.
Found it!! Sorry to interrupt!! 🙁
To CathyJo63 said,in February 17th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Isn’t John Arbuckle the guy who owns Garfield the cat?
Not joking, just wondering?
Also, one from the discussion today, I believe was on a Prosecution witness list… But don’t quote me… may mean nothing.. I am just an highly suspicious person.
m2c…it may be that HIS dealer was happy to do that sort of exchange, but I think most would tell him to get lost and to sell the gun himself and come back with cash! Not all drug dealers are all that bad…in fact, I know of two who wound up getting themselves charged after contacting LE when a creep who had murdered a woman bought pot from them and was trying to sell her jewelry.
m2c…I should have added, I also think he may have hid it elsewhere or did sell it…I’m sure there’s a market for illegal guns.
Blue Moon said,in February 17th, 2010 at 8:11 pm Does anyone have at hand the original 911 call transcripts? Please put up the link if you do.
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http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2009/2/12/haleigh_911_transcript_part_1.html
I think we all need to consider we will not have any knowledge of any offenses of theses PLAYERS before the age of 18. It would be sealed. So we don’t know for sure if their lifestyle growing up contributed to their capability to cause harm to a child.
Gosh guys, I thought that we had already established that Tallent was from Georgetown, not far from welatka….he has 3 brothers who live there and he lived with the eldest named Robert. He has at least 3 felonies and some mistermeanors against him and he used to have Orlando & another address just south of Orlando, forget the name….I’m sick with a cold…yuck!
I think the “blaming ” quote is Timmy & Tommy’s
“…this Haleigh sh*t…” Sounds like some blaming when Timmy asks him “Do you think WE would be going through all of this if it weren’t for this Haleigh sh*t?” Haleigh gone missing is the meaning but doesn’t sound too sympathetic for the missing child either. I can see what was meant.
They are still acting as if they haven’t committed any crime and they are only behind bars due to Haleigh,,,which isn’t true but does sound sort of like blaming to me.
Hey guy’s….I had a long distance call,sorry.Are u still looking for that Transcript BM?
911: “911, what’s your emergency”
Misty Croslin: “Hi…umm…I just woke up…and our backdoor was wide open and I think…and I can’t find our daughter”
911: “you can’t find what?”
Misty Croslin:”our daughter”
911:” OK, what’s your address?
Misty Croslin: “(inaudible)”
911: “OK, what’s the numerical?”
Misty Croslin: “The numerical…what’s that?”
911: “the number…green lane?”
Misty Croslin: “Yes”
911: “OK when did you last see her?”
Misty Croslin: “Um, we like just, you know…it was about 10 o’clock- she was sleeping- I was cleaning…
911: “OK- how old is your daughter?”
Misty Croslin: “She’s five”
911: “Ok…what was she last seen wearing? Maam…”
Misty Croslin: “She was in her pajamas- she was sleeping…”
911: “OK…alright…You said your back door was wide open?”
Misty Croslin: “yes- it was bricked- there was a brick on the floor…when I was asleep it was not like that.”
911: Ok…the back door…listen to me…your back door was wide open…what are you talking about a brick?”
Misty Croslin: “(inaudible)”
911: “what is a brick?”
Misty Croslin: “it’s almost like– on the stairs- we have a walkway…”
911:” uh huh….and there was a brick laying there?”
Misty Croslin: “yes…it’s still there”
(background) tell them they’ve better come on…
911: “we’ve got em coming- tell him we’ve got them coming”
Misty Croslin: “they’re coming”
911: “Ok what’s the color of your house ma’am?
Misty Croslin: “blue”
911: “blue, OK
(pause)
OK- what does she look like? How tall is she? Give me some description of her.”
Misty Croslin: “How tall she she? Like long hair like curly…with curls..
911: “long curls…what color?”
Misty Croslin: “(inaudible)”
911:” ok- what color hair? Brown hair?”
Misty Croslin: “Yes…oh my gosh….”
911: “OK- how tall is she about? Or how much does she weigh…do you know that?”
Misty Croslin: “huh?”
911: “about how tall or how much she weigh?”
Misty Croslin: “24 sounds about right- I don’t know- she’s not that tall….”
911: “OK-wait- tell your husband we’ve got them coming, ok?”
Misty Croslin: “OK”
911: “How much does she weigh- do you know?”
Misty Croslin: “huh?”
911: “How much does she weigh?”
Misty Croslin: “um…like 40-50 pounds- 60 pounds?
911: “40-60 pounds?”
Misty Croslin: “yeah”
911: “OK- let me get your name and phone number. Spell your last name…
spell your last name?
Was your back door locked do you know?”
Misty Croslin: “Yes…(inaudible)”
Ronald Cummings: “Man, I need somebody to get here now!”
911: “OK, let me speak to him…”
Ronald Cummings: “I just got home from work, my five-year-old daughter is gone- I need someone here now.”
911: “OK, listen to me…listen to me…we’ve got two officers…”
Ronald Cummings: “if I find whoever has my daughter before you all do, I’m killing them…I don’t care- I will spend the rest of my life in prison….you can put that on the recording…I don’t care.”
911: “It’s OK sir, we’ve got them on the way…ok- can you give me…what kind of description of pajamas was she wearing? “
Ronald Cummings: “I don’t f%$ know!”
Cummings:” Hello”
911:” OK sir let me just talk to your wife. Let me get some information from her. “
Misty: (inaudible) crying. “I don’t wanna…(inaudible)”
911: “Can I talk to her? OK”
Misty: “inaudible”
Cummings: (inaudible, in background ) “Where my daughter at?”
911:” Ma’am. OK listen I need you to answer some questions. Does the door look like it was pried open?”
Misty:” Umm… (inaudible)”
911: “Does it look like you had to sorta…like someone tried to enter your house.”
Misty: “Umm. Hold On.”
911:” And another thing, make sure you and your husband don’t touch the door anymore. Don’t mess with the door or anything. “
Misty: “No it doesn’t. “
911: “it doesn’t look like it is?”
Misty: “No”
911: “Ok, now listen, tell your husband, do not touch anything- because we are going to get a k-9 out there”
Misty: “ok….she said don’t touch anything because they are bringing a k-9 out here”
Ronald Cummings: “they better bring f’ing something out here- because if I get my hands on that mother f’er I’m going to kill him…I don’t give a f%*)@# about prison…mother F’ing prison doesn’t scare me.”
911:” ok, we understand- we’ve got them on the way
What’s her name…{redacted}…how do you spell her first name…{redacted}…what’s her middle name? …{redacted}. And the spelling of the last name is? …{redacted}.”
Misty: “well, that’s my last name”
911: “What’s her date of birth?
Ronald Cummings: “i’m going to f’ing kill somebody”
911:”Tell him we understand- we need to get her date of birth.”
Misty: “what’s her date of birth?”
Ronald Cummings: “F her date of birth- we need to find her- f her date of birth.”
911: ” Ok Listen to me, I’m getting this information- I’m not the officer driving out there ok? – they are coming out there to handle that situation. I need to gather all the information from you over the phone…it has nothing to do with me driving out there…ok? They are coming out there…ok?”
Misty: “ok”
911: “ok, I’m going to stay on the phone with you ok? Until they get there…ok?”
Misty: “ok”
(backgroud noise)
911: “tell him we’ve got them coming, he’s got to calm down a little bit. The officers are going to come out there and do what they can. We can’t have him screaming and yelling at the officers whenever they get there ok?”
Misty:” Uh huh…”
Ronald Cummings: “where is my f’ing phone…we’ve got better people to talk to then some mother f’ers who ain’t coming.”
I’m having to wait to listen to all the new “nuggets’ until after my hubby goes to work in an hour or so….I’ve been driving him crazy with all of the audios. LOL!!! I need to break down and buy some good headphones.
This case…..is like being trapped in purgatory……it never ends.
LoL @Holly’s Brokedown.that remark resembles me,lol sorry,couldn’t resist!
I’ll 2nd that Holly’s!
OH Yea! I finally watched Gone Baby Gone…..OMG!!!! I cried at the end because while I so hope Haleigh comes home alive like the little girl in that movie, it will be so sad for her to return to the life she had been leading, much like the Amanda character. I hate to say it but Ben Afleck did a superb job!!!
Hey CathyJo….how’s everything?
Hangin in there waiting for Good News about Haleigh! You?
I think my absolute favorite quote so far (newest segments unheard) is TC’s
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“Of all the things I’ve done and gotten away with before…..”
LOL WTF??? 🙂
I guess i could complain but hell who’d listen….LoL
LoL Now thats a gooden’
As the Stomach turns……
I do feel bad for Lindsey….can’t spend money so she’d better starve the kids till T gets home….shame!
crap,Gotta reboot!
What kept comming across to me in Tommy & Lindsay’s convos was his tone when he wanted her to comply or agree. It was threatening in a way that seemed to say “You & I both know I can’t do anything to you right now, but if you don’t do what I want I will mess you up as soon as I can”. She reponds to him very quickly in the affirmative even though body language & expressions say she doesn’t really agree, just placating him.
or is it just me?
What I think will finally bring some truth out of Misty & Tommy is when Mom & Pop don’t visit as much, phone calls are rare….Timmy is out of money and refuses their calls, maybe dad will do time, mom maybe too….then what will they do?
HGM:
I did notice that I didn’t know if it was a veiled physical threat or a I am going to be upset with you. I did feel she was fearful of him, on some level.
HGM:
Won’t that look at all the things I did before look good in court? A jury will love him.
Looks like more new tapes released today.
This from News4jax: Unbelievable! The best yet!
http://www.news4jax.com/news/22596470/detail.html
This article gives some great highlights of the newest tapes.
Evidently, according to this article, Lisa tells Misty that LP has said he would relocate them to California if Misty will tell them where HaLeigh is….ALL of them, lol
I wonder if Frank and Barton are going to get some retalliation for selling the fidgety five out? They sure were memorizing those names. Misty seems proud of selling people out until it has been done to her. What a kettle of fish!
I agree Holly’s!It seemed like he wanted to control the entire situation and was demanding but not so demanding in a way that anybody else would know and not so demanding b/c he’s in jail now and if Linsey wanted to she could leave him for good and he wasn’t gonna chance it!Sorta,i don’t think i explained the way i wanted but close.lol
Karon,This is off topic but i am just curious..May i ask if you are the Karon Cox who spotted the guy in Somer’s Moms Press release!
I saw that on eyes for lies!
I have a feeling all of its gonna get worse before it gets better Karon!
Misty was shocked when her dad told her Barton and Frank ratted her out!
I take it everybodys gone,lol
CathyJo:
Yes, I am the same one, but that turned out not to be him. We think he may be on that video at the vigil, however. We are waiting to see.
Cathy Jo:
It is going to be a big mess. They are not loyal people and, now, they are scrambling for years of their lives. It is pitiful to watch. They all have so much on each other, and before it’s over they may be spending the rest of their lives in prison. (all of them)
Cathy or Karon: Can I ask what guy?
HGM:
This case is like being caught up in pergutory.
BAC, thank you for the links. I read the three post along with the article. In the picture of Ronald you can see he is on something.Rons eyes are what I would describe as wide- eyed. He looked like this the one time on Nancy Grace. This was the show where he would smile and laugh. The one where Nancy states a bunch of pot heads could not keep a sacret like this to themselves. I posted that I noticed it back then.
I did find the one post interesting though.
Nancy Grace had the Casey Antony update last night. Where the state laid out on the table that poor little Caylee was sedated and suffocated. The weapon ins the duct tape. The killer wrapped the duct 3 whole times around little Caylees head covering her nose and mouth. Once again I could not hold back the tears. The prosecutions last statement was that Caylee died looking into her mothers eyes.
Nancy played the clip where Casey is talking with a detective and she tells them that ” LE was trying to trick her into a confession and she said that was not going to happen”. I saw this as a more educated way of saying ” They are not going to break me” “There is nothing to break me on” ” They just need to leave me alone”
At this point all I could think about is little Haleigh. How tragic and sad this is.
Secret – sorry for the typo
Another typo – I meant to type the weapon is the duct tape. Too early in the morning I guess.
I do have a question for anyone. We hear Misty saying DCF came to talk to her because they are investigating She and Ron for their drug habits. Misty and Ron are in jail and Ron no longer has the children in his care. Does anyone think there are going to be some kind of charges filed against them? More on Ron if Misty told DCF that he gave her pills while under the age of 18? Can DCF file charges on them for anything?
Good Morning, looking for Justice!
I think DCF’s investigation should have been redacted from the tapes. It presumably is about the custody of a minor and is on-going.
So that’s the first thing I don’t understand.
As far as filing charges because of what M said – her accusation may not be enough proof for DCF to bring charges. Besides I kind of hope DCF is too busy “protecting” children who are minors now rather than spending time and money prosecuting adults after the fact based on hearsay.
The other thing I don’t understand is what rules/regs DCF operates under. Can they take the word of an accused drug dealer and possibly scorned-woman about the father? What is DCF’s goal anyway? C already has temporary custody. R has not been tried or convicted on the drug charges against him. Is DCF going to have its own little kangaroo court and judge him and let C have full custody forever before he’s tried and convicted in a real court? What is DCF trying to accomplish?
SO Ronald’s BFF is a Sgt in PCSD? Was this common knoledge? Linda Frank’s brother….Hmmm let me take a little looky lou!
Oh Boy…this is gettin deep!
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758546&IMG=60244
Morning, all, anyone know what’s up with this?
I think DCFS is helping to investigate just how likely the OD theory is…if they were using, especially high levels, they would be very careless and the % rate per their usage impacts the outcome to Haleigh on many levels
Accidentally leaving door unlocked,
Too sedated to hear an intruder..this is culpable
various mistakes and/or misdeeds
It makes no sense and would be a criminal waste of time and money for DCF to “investigate” what MAY have happened to a little girl gone missing.
DCF’s job is to decide the custody of Jr. That’s the only legitimate reason they could have to be interviewing M. And even then it’s hearsay – from a potentially scorned woman no less. So it makes no sense to me at all. I mean what’s DCF going to do if C fails her next drug test? Give custody back to R while he’s in jail? I don’t think so.
With all the children who are being neglected and abused this very minute, who have NO protection, I would think DCF would have better things to do.
You may be right there m2c…as far as better things to do….but if PCSD believes that Haleigh has come to harm due to abuse and/or negligence, it is their job to investigate. I’m not saying I believe it’s true that it happened that way, but it does need to be investigated on BOTH sides of the parental tree. No, custody would go to the family member willing to foster him and have foster care licensing…..certification I guess.
Right, it is PCSD’s job. Not DCFS.
Also for M to be talking to DCFS without her lawyer there – my God that is beyond stupid. What she says can be used against her! LOL!
Someone really needs to take the shovel away from that girl. She’s dug a hole for herself almost all the way to China already (at least on the drug charges).
so Misty has been moved. LOVE the new ‘do!
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758546&IMG=60244
Thank you m2c and HollysGmom. I did not know how the ligistics worked in a situation like this.
HollysGmom you mention the Sargeant that is the brother of Rons bff. I read Opion onlys comments and there was a reference in there that stated the bad apples were kept out of the loop as to the activity going on. I am assuming they were stating the bad apples were tipping off the players. Do you think this is what they were referring to possibly?
John Barton AKA Ogrady 80 yrs ols from Palatka
3 Satsuma previous addresses
looking:
Absolutely…I had almost posted that very thought. That there seemed to have been an acknowledgement of some sorruption on some level but that it was being taken care of….I’m wondering just how long these two have been BFF.
* Corruption…..ooops
Misty talks about Linda Frank in the video and also goes on to say that Linda’s brother is a Sgt at PCSD and that he and Ron are Best Buds and have been for some time….she doesn’t say how long though. It appears that Frank is LInda’s maiden name but not sure….I’m still checking it out.
I’ve pinointed Linda & John’s info addresses etc. I think Mr Barton was getting Rx filled at base for her. He appears to be ex-military and one if not both of his sons are current or ex- military.
I love the way Hank Sr almost talks about his Dr shopping charge with M….Then stops himself and says “I don’t want to talk about it…” LOL! Uh yea, you know it’s being recorded….you both keep mentioning it.
Thanks HollyGmom, I will check back to see what oyu find out.
Oh boy o oby…..Don’t tell me the Jason they have been mentioning is Sgt Jason Nettles….
Thanks HollyGmom, I will check back to see what you find out.
who is Jason Nettles?
HGm @ 8:10am and 8:19 am –
Wow. Not only have you identified a specific person (whom we really don’t know if they are connected with this case) but you have accused him of prescription drug crimes (in conjunction with another specific person).
Good luck with those libel suits!
the tapes are boring..pityful people in trouble.
I don’t think misty knows anything haleigh..
Did I get an address? Did I post any info other than name & age? so how did I slander or liable them? COnsidering LE already knows who these people are, I’m not too worried….especially since there is only one person by those names in that county…but I could be wrong….
I imagine if he decided to sue, he’d let his lawyer tell you how you libelled him. Slander is different.
HollysGmom, who is Jason Nettles?
Sgt at Putnam….since there had been many questions about a “Jason” that Misty & Ron were talking about…I wondered if this was the sgt Misty mentioned being Ron’s good friend….Since it had been redacted until investigated…it appears it might be corret but I am still looking into it.
There were some quotes by Sgt Nettles on Feb 11 2009 in a news article about the case, so he was “on scene”.
Officer Nettles may not be the sgt that Misty was referring to I just thought it an odd coincidence that his first name is Jason and both R & M had been talking about a Jason.
Thanks HollysGmom.
Holly we know that we cannot alwayas trust what a poster implies, but I got a strong sense that the blogger my opion only was trying to implicate Ronald. Did you get that sense?
Hmmmm not not Ronald exclusively and maybe not even Ronald….maybe someone else. They kept saying or pointing us back to (paraphrase)
“LE will only tell you what they want you to know and they manipulate POIs via the media & newsprint.” That possibly the heat is on R & M to deflect attention away from another, maybe even make the person think they were safe and thus slip up.
I’ve been searching an the only reference to Jason NEttles on the Haleigh case is the statement to the media he made on day 1. He stated that they did not know if Ron & Misty were suspects, at that time. Since then, I can find no mention of him or him associated with this case. Anybody have anything or know of anything? There are alot of posts on crime discussion logs about him being a Sgt involved with this case, but it is probably due to that first statement he made and nothing further.
Was Chad Reynold’s ever found? I can’t find anything that says he was. I know the police said at one point they did not believe he had anything to do with Haleigh, but I don’t hold that as fact.
Thanks HollysGmom, that makes me feel better. I am praying he is not involved. That would make this case more tragic.
Just in case you did not know there is new thread. Mistys arraignment in Putnam.
The Jason, is Jason Jolicoeur from I think FDLE.
Did anyone see that PCSO site states Misty was released at 10:47am today, not showing bond posted though.
Blue moon, I didn’t see that but if she was even at PCSO it would have just been for court and back to St John I would think but I am just guessing. That time might be when she went back.
Hey guy’s…anything new……gotta catch up!
Thanks Treece that is what Tobias said too on the other thread.
Karon Cox said,in February 18th, 2010 at 1:46 am CathyJo:
Yes, I am the same one, but that turned out not to be him. We think he may be on that video at the vigil, however. We are waiting to see.
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Karon,
Oh Ok….But either way it’s good to know someone was paying attention.lol I saw that and had to ask if it was you!I love that site!
Karon Cox said,in February 18th, 2010 at 1:52 am Cathy Jo:
It is going to be a big mess. They are not loyal people and, now, they are scrambling for years of their lives. It is pitiful to watch. They all have so much on each other, and before it’s over they may be spending the rest of their lives in prison. (all of them)
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Thats a given for certain and it is a huge huge mess!!Secrets flying outta the closet!
m2c in reference to your 4:53pm post. I was not judging anyone. I asked BAC a question and she kindly responded with some info. I thought it had been something I had missed.I get what she is saying now. Thanks to her links she provided.
Rons arrest record is very lengthy.
1/21/2001
10/24/2001
12/12/2002 – 2 separate charges
11/16/2004
8/1/2006
11/14/2006
12/19/2006
4/3/2007
11/14/2007
6/22/2009 – interference with child custody.
8/06/2009 altercation with Tommy Croslin
1/21/2010 3 charges
1/22/2010 2 charges
Most of all Rons charges are drugs and they allwere dismissed, except these last 5 in 2010.
Thanks again BAC
Misty is out of jail???
CathyJo63, I believe Treece is correct. They have to log her out of putnam county jail and then take her back to St. Johns county detention center and log her back in.
Thanks, looking for justice. The only charges I had seen until now were from 2002 and 2004.
cent, do you have info on what the charges were for someo of those years?
I keep seeing partial lists and one early charge, for example, was for underage drinking! I’m just trying to get a full picture. TIA
Looking @ 11:34… You’re welcome.
Hi M2C, have you gone here, the link below?
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beautiful*adams (cent) said,
in February 17th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Looking… go here.
http://wheretruthlies.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/ronald-cummings-parental-skills/
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php
Thank you, cent! I missed that!
New Articles!
M2C, you’re welcome
Wow I posted some new (to me) video links on here last night at around 11:30pm and they are gone?? Hope everyone got to see them….if not looks like someone else has found them as well =), bummed that my posts got deleted though!
New Here, what post are you talking about? I was on last night, but I don’t remember any video.
Should have been right before or after this post. After I posted it I sat here and waited for someone to respond but I think everyone went to bed? So I just left and came back this morning and it was gone?? LOL
KeepItReal said,
in February 17th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
But as long as someone posted it and everyone got to see it is all im worried about haha, just wonderin where mine went. I thought that was the best clip of a video yet!
Hey Guy’s..are more recordings coming??
GeeWiz,got booted!
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