OK so now I have heard everything. When I saw this headline I couldn’t believe that Casey Anthony would think anyone would fall for this one. She tried to claim that the horrendous smell coming from her car that was described by her very own mother as the smell of a dead body in the damn car, was from a dead squirrel.
New evidence released Tuesday showed that she told her friend, Amy Huizenga that maybe her dad ran something over with her car when he borrowed it, and it smelled like something died in it.
The documents released included statements from witnesses that authorities spoke to about what the Anthony’s said about the smell in Casey’s car. According to investigators there has been several explanations for the odor coming from the car.
Amy Huizenga said she was first told “she’s pretty sure she ran something over on the 408.” Huizenga said she also remembered Anthony leaving her a message that said, “There’s definitely a part of an animal plastered to the frame of my car.” She also said Anthony said she had “gotten rid of it.”
he report also said that Cindy Anthony, Caylee Anthony’s grandmother didn’t want to open the trunk once she smelled the odor because she was afraid it would be Casey or Caylee stuffed in there.
Casey told her brother, Lee Anthony, that “two dead squirrels crawled up under the hood of the car and they died in there.” Caylee Anthony’s Mom Says Smell in Car is From Dead SquirrelsHe described the smell as “atrocious.â€Â Lee Anthony told detectives, “The trunk was open. The windows were rolled down to what I assume — (to) ventilate the horrible smell that I had just smelled for the first time.”
The investigator said, “The smell filled up the whole garage?”
“Yeah,” Anthony said. “It hit you like a wave. I mean it was, it was whatever it was, it was very, very potent.†Lee Anthony told detectives, “The trunk was open. The windows were rolled down to what I assume — (to) ventilate the horrible smell that I had just smelled for the first time.”
According to statements included in the released documents, Casey Anthony was leading a rich social life full of parties and drugs and showed no signs of worry that her daughter was missing.
When investigators talked to Amy Huizenga and Casey’s boyfriend, Tony Lazarro they got new information about Casey activities. Amy said, “I know she has started smoking more pot than she ever had. She would eat a brownie here or there and maybe smoke every once in a great while. Um, but she did tell me that she’d been smoking a lot more pot.†Huizenga’s was talking about in mid-June about the time that Caylee was last seen.
Amy told the detectives that Casey had her nails done, and got a tattoo around that same week.
“So, she got her fingernails cleaned, done up pretty and a tattoo in the week that Tony’s gone?” the investigator asked.
“Uh-hum,” Huizenga said.
“And goes out partying (July 2 and 3)?” the investigator asks.
“And the fourth,” Huizenga said.
“The fourth?” the investigator asks.
“Because we had a July Fourth party,†Huizenga said.
According to Casey’s friends she didn’t express any concern about her daughter to them. It was said that after July 5, Casey would wake up sweating in the middle of the night saying she was having nightmares.
Lee Anthony admitted to detectives that his mother and his sister have always had a rocky relationship. “There is a genuine wedge between your mother and your sister, isn’t there?” an investigator asked.
“My mother has been the provider for Caylee, even down to the extent that my mother was the first person to hold Caylee when she came out of the womb. So, my mom is convinced that my sister holds some kind of resentment to her.”
Now sources who knew the Anthony family intimately during the past few months are telling Eyewitness News that Casey has convinced her mother, Cindy, that Caylee was sold to someone in Puerto Rico.
Leonard Padilla says this is just another one of Casey Anthony lies that she has cooked up. “Baby’s dead. Baby’s deceased,” he said. Padilla told eyewitness news that he had a female employee placed in the house with Casey for nine days and she claims that Casey confided in her quite a bit but never once mentioned Puerto Rico. “Her whole methodology the whole nine days that the young lady was in there with her was one of denial, guilt, that she had done away with her own daughter,” Padilla said.
A Lawsuit has been filed against Casey Anthony by the woman Casey named as the babysitter that disappeared with her daughter. Zenaida Gonzalez has hired a high profile lawyer from Orlando, John Morgan to represent her in this defamation suit. Gonzalez says she has had enough. She wants Casey to pay for her lies now. T-shirts have shown up saying things like “The Nanny Did It” and “Zanny the Nanny” and this is one reason Gonzalez has decided to sue Casey. Although Caylee or killed her. she has never shown her face she says thousands of people think she has either kidnapped. “What we want to make sure is that Casey Anthony does not profit for throwing Zenaida Gonzalez under the bus. They are out there talking about movie deals, book deals. There are t-shirts being sold,” attorney John Morgan told Eyewitness News.
I think if Zenaida Gonzlez has a right to sue for defamation since she was apparently an innocent party in this that just was in the wrong place at the wrong time. She doesn’t deserve to be pulled into this game Casey Anthony seems to be playing with her parents, the authorities, her friends and all of America.
There are rumors out there that the Anthony’s have signed a $2 million movie deal with Lifetime Movie Network even though lifetime is saying no such deal has been made. Casey Anthony’s attorney Jose Baez made bounty hunter Leonard Padilla sign away any dibs on movie or book deals. Padilla says Baez is depending on the entertaining industry since Casey doesn’t have money to pay for his fees. Baez’s PR firm won’t answer any questions concerning the movie deal.
I have been out of the loop this last week with no internet and no TV and it was driving me crazy not knowing what was going on here but the more I read to catch up the more upset I get. I agree with Zenaida. Enough is enough! It is time that this little brat comes clean with what really happened to her daughter.
I still find it hard to believe that George and Cindy Anthony don’t know what really happened but if they don’t then it is time they put their foot down and demand to be told the truth. They should cut their ties with Casey until she talks. As a parent I know it has to be hard to turn your back on your own child, especially when they are in serious trouble.
But come on now, even the mother’s of the year would have to admit there is a line where you have to draw here as to how far you can go to protect your kids. Hell make Casey think they have had enough and kick her out, send her back to jail and when she talks then stand by her through this. They have to know what a habitual liar she is, so how can they honestly believe this new story that she sold Caylee?
I guess I can still pray that one day Casey will put an end to all of this and tell where this precious child is so this can all come to an end. Caylee God bless you honey, where ever you are!
Janny Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackJan, Casey is never going to tell the truth. She is a sociopath and a pathological liar. They think only of themselves and only tell the truth when it suits them.
If Casey tells the truth, she may get the lethal injection or life in prison. If she keeps quiet, she believes she will get away with it.
I hope they find Caylee’s body soon and arrest her and convict her of first degree murder. I am sick of this three ring circus.
I don’t think Casey will ever crack. I believe that if Caylee’s remains were found, or if there was even video tape of Casey disposing of the body, she won’t crack. She’ll be one step ahead with another story to cover it up.
I hope that Caylee is found alive soon, but I firmly believe that won’t be the case. In my heart, I think little Caylee is looking down on all of us. God bless you, little one.
I think we have to all face reality. Caylee Marie Anthony had been dead for a month before the news even hit the air waves. And the police and Anthonys all knew it the minute they got a whiff of the smell of decomposition in the car trunk.
Casey is going to continue to spin her web of lies because that’s what makes her happy.
Cindy and George and Lee are going to continue to cover up for her. They’ve been doing it all her life and that’s what dysfunctional families do. They tear each other apart behind closed doors but to the public they pretend like they are the Brady Bunch.
According to Lee and Casey’s ex boyfriends, Cindy called Casey a sociopath, thief and liar and warned the last boyfriend that she would take all his money and leave him high and dry. She knows her daughter.
Yet the picture she wants the public to swallow of Casey is that she is the Mother of the Year going to jail to protect her child.
Caylee Marie Anthony does not have a voice anymore. So we must be her voice and see that Casey does not get away with snuffing out the life of her precious toddler and tossing her in the trash so that she is free to party and sleep with as many men as will have her.
I found this on the site of Judge Jeanine Pirro. Here is what she has concluded based on the same evidence we have read:
Fast-forward 28 years — three-year-old Caylee Anthony is missing. Many want to believe she is alive but all the evidence points to the contrary. It did some time ago. To seasoned prosecutors, like myself, who have seen this scenario more than we want to recall, this is a replay of a child abuse homicide.
We all wanted to believe that maybe someone DID kidnap Caylee — that maybe Casey was indeed the good mother that she appeared to be in all those pictures. That this mother could never commit the unthinkable. Yet the handwriting was on the wall back in July.
Fact: How does a mother not report that her child is missing? Yet we were duped into wanting to believe she maintained her silence so her child wouldn’t be harmed. After all, any good mother would keep silent — even go to jail to protect her child, right? Then out came the pictures of mama Casey not sitting by the phone waiting for the call to take the money, the drugs, the whatever, to a designated place — but rather mama dancing, partying, bumping and grinding at the Fusion nightclub at a time we know she doesn’t have Caylee.
Ok, so maybe a babysitter did have Caylee so mama could party. But there’s no Zaneida Gonzalez living at the address mama gave. And the Zaneida Gonzalez who is located has never met Casey and has never taken care of Caylee.
So let’s backtrack for a moment. How has Casey’s life changed since she was last seen with her daughter on June 15, 2008. Well she has a new boyfriend, Tony, who according to friends is not too keen on the baby, but with whom she is increasingly spending time- to the point where she is there every night.
But wait, she loves this baby just look at the pictures! Yet now we know she wanted to give Caylee up for adoption before she was born.
Fact: We also know on July 18th Casey borrowed a shovel from a neighbor and backed her car into her family’s garage — something neighbors had never seen her do. So add to that a flurry of calls that pinged from her phone in a wooded area several times with repeated calls to her parents on July 17th, some only a minute apart. Add the fact that gas cans reportedly stolen by her father from his garage are in her trunk, which trunk she tried to prevent him from opening.
Fact: when Casey is arrested for child neglect and lying to investigators, she sits in jail, not at all worried with sunken eyes and a look of desperation, but instead bemoaning the fact that everyone is so “focused on Caylee!” She just wants her boyfriend Tony’s number.
Wait! Grandma and Grandpa Anthony (former nurse and former cop) tell us Caylee will be home on her 3rd birthday, August 9th! Yet, that birthday comes and goes while grandma and grandpa are not out on daily searches looking for Caylee. Wouldn’t a former cop start by going to the apartment where this phantom babysitter lived? Instead, these grandparents spend their days fighting and spinning the press.
Now why would they do this? Why are they not searching, pleading, begging for information? Maybe because grandma, who called 911 complaining of the smell of a decaying body, in the trunk of her daughter’s car (which Casey conveniently abandons as inoperable — but which to her detriment is found by police and literally driven with no problem to the impound lot) knows the truth. She knows her daughter is a pathological liar. She knows her daughter didn’t want Caylee and she knows Casey is responsible. Grandpa, a former sheriff’s deputy knows Caylee isn’t coming back. He knew when he found gas cans he reported stolen in his daughter’s trunk and when cadaver dogs pointed at that same trunk. He knew when police confirmed that virtually everything Casey told them was a lie!
Could it be that these so-called loving grandparents have circled the wagons around their daughter Casey, because they know Caylee is never coming home.
Fact: Enter the University of Tennessee’s body farm that conducted tests on the car’s air samples from the trunk and conclude that a human corpse had been decomposing there. Grandma says someone else could have put a body in the trunk after it “was abandoned.” Instead she tells media, “Casey is telling us Caylee’s life is in danger.” All the while DNA test prove conclusively Caylee’s hair is in the trunk.
Fact: Chloroform was found in “significant levels” in the same trunk where scientists detected vapors of a decomposing body and the hairs of Caylee Anthony. It is a solvent often used as an anesthetic by inhaling the vapors that cause the central nervous system to depress resulting in possible loss of consciousness, and is often fatal.
It is not one fact, but each fact weaved together as a connected whole that leads us to the inescapable conclusion that Caylee is dead.
I remember that judge in the felony hearing telling me — a mother would never intentionally kill her own child. I know now, what I knew then — “Evil comes in all shapes and sizes” even pretty young girls with sparkling blue eyes.
I believe the same i do not think casey is ever going to admit what has happend to Caylee. casey is a coward and you can about bet that she will, in the end, take the cowards way out.
All I want to know is when are the police going to get smart and arrest her already. It is such a side show anymore. I get more entertainment ready the articles on her everyday than I do watching regular t.v.
sorry I meant to say reading the articles. Mr. Padilla claims they do not need a body with all the evidence, so what is the problem. I feel that the police are also feeding her into her freedom.
Nancy Grace is playing audiotapes of the interogations of Lee, Tony and Jesse. They said the same thing we read but it was interesting to hear the inflections in their voice.
This must be so hard for Jesse. He acted the role as Caylee’s father for the first 10 months of her life and he still cared for her. I could hear the love in his voice when he talked about how she loved to play in her playhouse. He also said that’s where Casey would hide the body.
He doesn’t sound like he still loves Casey. He sounds like a cop trying to get the goods on her. He does sound like he loves Caylee and wants to get justice for her.
The problem is the same…where is Caylee?
It doesn’t matter at this point if she is dead or alive, though we all pray she is alive.
Casey will probably never tell the truth, and if she is incapable of telling the truth then why should we expect it?
Perhaps we can learn a lot through her lies.
my hope is that the police are giving her just enough rope to hang herself!! she has already been doing a fine job of doing so…
this case has really struck a nerve with me. I hope and pray that the anthonys come join us all in reality, and casey pays dearly for what she has done to such a precious and innocent life.
you have to remember casey is already in prison in her own miserable world.. no parties, no boys, no drugs, & no friends.. she thought she was going to be free, but she wil never be free again. the “good life” is over for casey.
God bless you Caylee Marie and we all hope to see this brought justice ASAP.
If they were trying to allow her to hang herself they would have never had arrested her.
After they gave her the right to remain silent it was all over.
econcerned about caylee are you saying lee tony and jesse may be lying? i did not listen to the tapes but you said there were inflection in there voices??
True.
Its not hard to see the writting on the wall through the web of lies she has told and is still telling. what are they waiting for???
Jan….great blog! Very informative!
I agree about the representation Zenaida has retained. Not only will it help her, but may also help facilitate new information in the case. I think it is terrible that someone would be making money from the loss of the little girl by selling such negative t-shirts that promote the Nanny Did It theme.
I disagree with the last statements regarding how George and Cindy should treat their daughter. I wouldn’t know, nor do I think others would know what they’d do given the same circumstances. Also, I think such inflammatory statements help facilitate an unstable environment for the neighborhood as endless idiots line up to show their “ass” for the world to see how they were raised…leaves me wondering about the culture and education in that area. Actually, it makes me think many more ‘Caseys’ are on the way.
hi everyone ,now we hear caylee was sold in Puerto Rico, by who pray tell by casey,zani what a tangle web we weave when at first we try to deceive, what another crop of crap is casey telling people now
Okay people need to stop rolling of every little story they here especially from sources which no one has seen or personally heard from. Too many people are taking every little thing put out and making theories and accusations. Do some research and analyzying before accusing people or spreading things any further before society as we know it falls apart.
I don’t think Lee, Jesse or Tony are lying. I just liked hearing the emotion in their voices. Their feelings came out.
You can’t tell what someone feels by just seeing their words on paper. Jesse truly cared about Caylee and knew Casey the most.
Tony didn’t sound like he cared that his relationship was over with Casey. The last he saw her was when Cindy came and got her and then called the police.
Lee sounded as disconnected as Casey the way he laughed at the smell of Caylee’s decomposing body.
People are taking these new documents which were dated back to July and throwing in all new accusations about story changes. The only story Casey has said in a written and interviewed statement was that that babysitter took her. As for Padillas story I think its all BS. Everybody was so down and against him and all kinds of bad things and now people are taaking what he says seriously. If people don’t remember he said in the beginning before he revoked the bond that CAsey wasn’t talking and now he says she did(right).
Het RV one of Charlies Angels just showed up on the other blog.
does casey realize the more lies she tells, it is not going to help her case if she wants herself to be free of all this all she has to do is open up and tell the truth if caylee is out there somewhere the better chance of finding her if she is alive,or does she not want her found safe and alive, seems to me she does not want her found
There may be a reason Casey isn’t talking maybe she did sell Caylee or at the least have her hidden so Grandma can’t find her. As far as the DNA well who knows about how it got there(Just a theory).
Assuming Casey realizes anything is really a leap of faith don’t you think?
It is apparent she doesn’t think with a mature mind. It is also safe to assume that she doesn’t surround herself with those who think maturely either. That’s why I still look at everyone’s statement closely.
Its probably just me but I think there are too many unanswered questions and people who should be investigated more.
I would rather think she killed her than think she sold her. If she sold her then Caylee’s life would be worse than if she were dead.
Unless, she collected adoption fees, if you know what I mean.
Oh…then we’d be looking at another attorney wouldn’t we?
I guess you’re right just throwing ideas out, no home run yet.
Theres alot more to all this than we all know or will know and I have a felling its going to be a long time before we know the truth. I also don’t think Casey is going to be charged with murder.
I read between here and other forums and put things together from both and thats how I come to the thoughts I have.
Dak, I think you are correct in not falling into the “witch hunt” mentality. Since we don’t know what happened it is best to keep an open mind. All that trying to “psych” out Casey, her family, and their neighbors is just a bunch of crap cooked up by “nuts.”
i would hope death or sold was not a option in this case, i perfer caylee alive and well
The idea of her selling Caylee is ludicrous. What did she sell her for? A Dollar? She couldn’t get her hands on enough money that she had to steal from friends and family. She spent that money shopping for trinkets for herself. I would go with the “vengeful drug dealer” theory but we can see where all the money she got from Amy went. On Casey. Not even Caylee so it’s pretty obvious that she was no longer with us by then. Casey, if you’re reading this, come back to reality and do the right thing before more innocent people are hurt. It’s a horrible thing that your daughter is gone and you will never have a life if you don’t tell the truth.
I haven’t read any other forums, except I visited that Briansdreams thing you told me about once.
I may have read the TV guy’s blog, but he seemed so shallow that I don’t think he is interested in the case to any extent other than it’s entertainment factor…the same may hold true with that Nancy Grace gal. After I read about the Duckett case I had no respect for her whatso ever.
dedecee…good point! We don’t know what she bought do we? That’s a lot of money to spend in such a short amount of time.
Flowerchild…I’d prefer she were alive as well…so would the Anthony family or at least it seems that way.
I believe all that has been said. I do believe that her parents know exactly what happened. I think after the evidence came back from the lab, I believe Casey had to tell them the truth. They are all guilty for that little girls death if you ask me!!!! GoD will have his time with them there will be justice one way or the other. If casey never gets charged with this, she will never make it on the outside. And if she does get charged with this she will never make it on the inside. With that being said somebody said it perfectly she will take the coward way out and kill herself. BET
why would caylee be sold, and who got the money, not casey since she had to steal from everyone
Exactly flowerchild!
Did she mean she sold her or that someone else may have sold her?
Gosh, stwiseEd…hope you are wrong.
and if casey gave caylee to someone to get her away from cindy, why all the drama,why not tell cindy she gave caylee to someone because she was afraid cindy was going to file to get caylee,it all makes no sense
me too
Trying to make sense of a dysfunctional family is useless, don’t you think.
It may be better to try to think up all the ‘dumb’ things that may have happened.
and in the above statement if caylee did show up alive would the courts give caylee back to a mother that has lied the whole time where she was
Usually we people smoke dope and/or drink they don’t tell the truth…heck, people who don’t do that don’t always tell the truth either. So why people lie would be similar to asking ” Which came first, the chicken or the egg?”
The people…haha
Of course not…she is not a responsible person. She hasn’t a real job, reliable trasportation or a roof over her head.
Okay…guess there is no one to chat with…ya’ll are playing who is in my cliche again.
Have a nice evening everyone.
no smoke pot did when i was younger well tried it didn’t like it
Come on everyone, seriously, what gives you all the right to assume that Caylee is dead without any proof. There are some very bad and dangerous people out there especially in Florida and Caylee being kidnapped or sold should not be ruled out. Stop judging poor Casey lest one day ye be judged
Rv Brians dreams is where i have been going besides here.
Hey Esaw i do agree to some lenght but be careful enetering in some of these blogs some people tend to take comments like that personal and go on the attack but hey glad to see some one else who is convicting Casey publicly.
Essau…you are new to this blog, aren’t you?
Yeah…I read some of that stuff, but I couldn’t make heads nor tails of it. All I could think of was a song by Moby…Flowers.
Hey RV thought you were heading out.
I saw you here…I’ll leave if you like
And thought the people on here had some out of the blue comments. Not very many people like Casey so I think a change of venue is going to happen.
No its okay. its good to have someone that isn’t going to chastize me for saying something they don’t like.
It is hard to like someone who doesn’t appear to care for her own child; however, that sentiment has nothing to do with finding Caylee.
Hey Rv two of our Angels are on the other blog. Wonder how long before my name comes up.
True, it is innocent until proven guilty.
nevermind my name has already come up.
I don’t know Dak…why would you care anyway…you can always get a new name…hahah!!!!
I gues I don’t really care and I really like my name I think.
You know i do in some small way feel sorry for Zenaida but too she really shouldn’t try to sue Casey. Thats like stealing from the poor.
Yeah…it’s like MMT said…you’re like a teen idol!
Or like turning down a dead end street to get away from the cops.
Do you mean getting blood from a turnip?
That too.
Well, she may be traumatized by all the media attention and people unnecessarily prying into her life.
Someone said in one of these blogs that if she didn’t want to be found then she shouldn’t have a Facebook account. That’s like saying if you didn’t want someone breaking into your home then you shouldn’t have a home.
You know considering that the latests statements released about the smell in the car the Casey said she smelled were done after the dead body smell came out publicly, I’m not sure I would believe them.
True. I am still trying to figure her out, theres alot that doesn’t make since and as far as I can see she is sticking to the babysitter story, and I don’t believe the new story from Padilla.
I have a felling we wil be getting company over here.
Perhaps not; but it does have that serial killer feel to it don’t you think?
I think Padilla is just putting stuff in to keep his presence on the case after all I did hear his TV show fell through.
Yeah I hope she didn’t kill anyone else(HAHA).
Well, if so, then I’ll chat with you later. It is difficult for me to relate to that type of behavior even if it is just typing. In the beginning it didn’t bother me…after a while it did. I’d rather talk about something that makes some kind of sense and not just bitter gossip.
Yes I am quite new on this blog but I still stand beside what I said earlier about Casey Anthony no matter what anyone thinks
I think they are staying in the other blog I was trying be prepared.
I aggree with you you esaw
Hey Esaw good for you and don’t let anyone keep you from standing by it.
I think Dak and I try to banter both ways…hope you aren’t offended. We don’t know and WE KNOW WE Don’t KNOW
And there is nothing wrong with bantering both ways I think it keeps you on your toes and keeps from having a closed mind.
I sent an email (twice) to Greta van Susteren offering my opinions but no response…I wonder why
I agree
They are probably swamped Esaw
I don’t think any Media show like that or Nancy grace really care about getting e-mail. Its all about the ratings.
I sent an email to Greta van Susteren voicing my opinions but she never responded…I didnt think she would
Gosh…better hit the hay…I usually get tired this time of night…talk to you guys later.
Sorry about that last message, I sent it twice. I told you Im new at this
Okay Rv later.
Some sleuth stuff that I cannot put together, yet.
6/24 M visits house, Seen by George. No Caylee, no smell.
Jesse mentions getting a call from M , hears Caylee on background
6/25 M mentions smelly car to Amy
6/26 or 6/27 car dropped off amscot, being picked up by
Tony
6/28 M ask both Amy and Jesse for gas can. What for??
6/30 M drops off Tony early at Airport for 9.58 am flight to NY.
M shows up at Amy at 9.45 am , they get a gas can at target using Jeep, M stays at Amy till possibly next morning. Also stays rest of week each nite . NO key to Tony’s apartment but uses Tony’s jeep that week.
Tow truck tows car at 09.00 am to wrecker yard.
7/1 M arrived at Jesse with bag of cloths at 10.39 AM for shower, leave around noon.
Get nails done same day I believe.
Toni does allow M to use jeep one time after 6/27 and before 6/30. But M is only gone for 20 minutes and comes back with target bags.
LE seems to be very interested in Jeep. Did they confiscated the jeep too.?
Thats a very good question I think LE should check out everyones car.
Hello who all is here tonight?
Been awfully busy lately so not much time to post barely time to read, was looking for a new blog posting from Jan and glad she got one made today!
I really liked NG tonight, it was informative, though i had read the docs the other day with alot of the tapes she had on today’s show, yet I also learned things as well.
That neighbor girl “Brittney” sure had alot to say and it wasn’t in m’s favor,
couldn’t believe m had family convinced she sold little Caylee to someone in Puerto Rico.. tears..
I don’t think I would put too much into the selling Caylee statement.
hello cj not to much going on just more audio tapes tonight nothing really enlighten
It’s just that m always changes her story, this is the fourth one i have heard so far and one her mother takes seriously, C even went to Puerto Rico looking for Caylee speaking on TV there.
Yeah i havent been on much have had alot to do lately, so havent even read all yet but did watch NG..
You have to remeber CJ these new stories in the statements were mentioned to those people before this all happened.
Hi Flowerchild,
you know… since C TOLD one of the witnesses, maybe it was Amy, she didnt care IF m had to be locked away the rest of her life she wanted to know where Caylee is THEN WHY can she not make m tell her now??? Even if it does mean being locked up the rest of her life.. do you know what I mean?
Get over yourselves & get a life you losers!! You all should be ashamed for going back & forth with each other when an innocent little girl is mising. None of us know the whole truth about what happened. I think there are a lot of Casey haters that secretly wish there precious little ones were “kidnapped” also so they could go out & BE THE SLUTS THEIR PARENTS NEVER WANTED THEM TO BE. I have met alot of Casey Anthony’s- you know pathological liars, theives & people living imaginary lives.
Hey getalife what exactly is your point just to clarify.
Dak, yes but regardless of when m made these lies up she did at least to my knowledge have four stories so far, maybe more i havent heard yet..
why would casey sell caylee, would that make sense in this, no
no it does not make sense but neiother did any of her other stories she made up flower.
No it wouldn’t make sense. If we could get by the DNA evidence my theory would be that she gave Caylee to someone to hide her from Cindy, and all the lies is to keep her from finding out.
getalife,
sorry you are offended, we want nothing more than to find Caylee, so she may have a proper burial.
hi again, just wanted to throw out the Quote from the judge..everything released to the public in the 600 or so pages will not be used to take it to the grand jury. The LE has released only that part that will not be used against her so what is left or in the missing pages?
or should have said nothing will be used against her that was released
dak with 225.000.00 out there for ANYONE to ANONYMOUSLY report how to find Caylee, AND NO ONE budging this tells us all Caylee is nowhere to be “found” in the earthly sense..
Wow interesting info michael.
wow,michael,
if thats the stuff THEY DO allow out,
I can’t imagine how good the stuff is they are keeping in for the jury!!
excuse me getalife, are you a mother are grandmother, we are not the ones who should be ashamed for a little girl being missing,it is her mother who should be ashamed,i was 18 when i had my first child and being a slut and have my child kidnapp was the furtherest thing from my mind when i saw my little girl for the first time, i thought what a gift god had just gave me, you are so wrong in that statement.
I know cj it was just a theory because everything else proves it couldn’t have hapened.
i can buy the fact casey gave caylee to someone to get even with cindy for being the mother figure in caylee’s life, but how long is she willing to play that game at the risk of her never seeing her child again,
aww flower, thats precious, i know i felt the saem way when i first laid eyes on my babies, too… and still think that way of them…
dak i didnt understand what you meant 10:47 post.
im going to kick myself for this but here goes anyway….today while talking to fellow team members it was said “you know it should come as no surprise to find out that cindy paid someone to take caylee away from casey and has let it get out of hand and does not know how to turn it around” thats a horrid thought but then again?
dak i know there are alot of theories out there and frankly i dont have one, at this stage…
i THOUGHT i had a theory or two a few weeks back but right at the moment i am too confused
but,
despite my being confused I know that the evidence thusfar is the truth.
michael, i wouldnt be surprised about much anymore to be honest
BUT I DO know that Cindy was REAL when she screeched to the 911 operator on 7/16 about the smell of a dead body in the damn car.
you know michael i was thinking the same thing,but then i think cindy really did not know where caylee was, and the dna evidence in the car and the dead body in the car statements made by cindy and george,so now i don’t think cindy took her
Yes Cj i know the evidence is true. What i wrote was a theory i had about Casey hiding Caylee but because the DNA evideb[nce says otherwise it couldn’t have happenned.
hope your right but with george knowing jsut how the system works and cindy being a nurse with access to pathology and chemicals and her statement telling casey that you fall in line or we can do it the legal way jsut sounds strange she was going to do something to get caylee one way or another
the one thing i don’t understand is casey statement to cindy that caylee was over at the babysitters house and she would take them to see caylee in the morning, i don’t understand why cindy did not demand casey to go get her right then and there instead of waiting
I think based on what little I know, and I believe from the goings ons between m and C regarding Caylee,
that m wanted the LAST word, and took it upon herself,
the fight was now over and in m’s mind, she won it..
do you guys think that evidence in the trunk was a plant by casey to throw people off and make people believe caylee is dead but not really,not a expert but could it have been done?
No flowerchild that is a very good question and something I thought about a while back. Planting DNA, if it is possible she has the resources.
flower i think it was that power-struggle relationship between m and C,
C “knew” that m was keeping Caylee from her, to be in control and in charge and “show’ C so to speak WHO HAD THE CONTROL,
so Cindy “thought” m was doing it to be spiteful..
FINALLY after a month of this C freaked..
telling her friend even if it meant m had to be jailed the rest of her life she wanted to know where Caylee was…
then came the atrocious smell of a dead body coming out of m/s own trunk of her vehicle, C lost it! Called 911!!
AGAIN let us NOT forget the 225,000 REWARD to ANY ANONYMOUS caller!!!
(Should Caylee be alive!)
fc yes it coould have been done like this..m parked the car at amscot after it run out of gas.. she had already planted the material in the trunk..left her purse on the seat….the chloroform was used to ruin any evedince or what was left in the trunk..no way to tell who or what it was originally.. she could have left her own hair for that matter, tehy still dont know whos it is for sure…she had all kinds of dna from caylee after all she was still in diapers…body fluids from the hospital or even her own blood could have been poured in the trunk and cleaned at the last moment..would still decay and smell but you would not get much of reliable dna testing from it..the point of all this.. she could claim kidnapping she blew it when she ran out of gas and got stuck.
well the kidnapp story are the being sold story , does not alter the fact that caylee dna was in that car, how is casey suppose to explain that
mike, sorry but i dont believe m or anyone for that matter would go through all that to “fake” it, it HAD to be for REAL.
now the smell could have been from something else dead in the trunk as a plant dead odor smell squirrel but what about the decomposition band on the hair samples michael anyway to fake that?
Caylee’s DNA is right WITH THAT TELL TALE BLACK RING< sign of death. Decomposition of the hair from a cadaver..
AND also not to add to the confusion of things but supposetly not knowing if it is Casey OR Caylee’s hair becase DNA for father would mean a relative, incest perhaps for the daddy,
that we dont know WHO is the daddy???
well, we KNOW Casey is alive so it cant be her hair, that only leaves someone deceased which is Caylee.
cj your right but if i wanted to sell my daughter to someone…collect on the debt later..a kidnapping would be a good cover..m would have been safe and been the greaving mother, she would have her life back, but she made mistakes..now trust me just rambling around here so dont for a second believe i think this is true.
I just listened to the Judge about the info released saying that the police are releasing things that are not going to be used in the grand jury so I wonder if that means the DNA too.
the death ring was not true gezzzz that was a NG bull story she ran with if they had that dont you think m would be in jail now.
cj no she would try it to keep cindy from getting caylee if she was the spiteful bit;ch she claims by her own statement to lee, maybe i am a spiteful bitc’h she said
Micael i thought LE released that info about the death band too.
the contrary michael,
i know you’re just playing with theories,
as all of us are entitled to,
making mistakes is always going to happen,
but in m’s case it is blatant
and calloused..
and it would make sense that DNA harvested from all the bones found we are and aren’t aware of in the search of sweet Caylee will no doubt be kept confidential to the sake of a murder charge.
true dak that story was released on ng that forensic found the death band i don’t think ng would have just throw that in if it wasn’t true
no not what i meant by making mistakes i mean she ran out of gass, that is not where she planned to leave the car so back to plan b…and dak LE never said there was a death ring..NG had the great doctor kobe say that and she kept pushing hem on it..untill it became the truth…LE has said all along that the eveidnce in the trunk is not enough to prove a body was in there just that they could prove decomposed material nothing else. that does not a body make
Thats what I thought Michael.
1 + 1 = 2
sometimes things are figured out through process of elimination…
cj you are right no comments from LE on the clothes and bones they found, been almost a month now since they found them,if they were not pertinent to the case we would have heard something that they had nothing to do with caylee
and the same koby who called it the death ring is now on Baez’s payroll..
so again i ask
WHO IS THE DADDY???
michael,
also the car was NOT out of gas, the gauge was stuck and G was able to start the pontiac up.
koby changed sides didn’t he
look guys remember this..1+1=2 unless someone adds 1 to the pot when noone is looking then you get 3 jsut saying..the bones were tested and found to be animal..thats a fact..and here is one for you..my most interesting find was the bridge..found was a shovel, sawknife, back pack and clothes of children size all under the bridge, looks bad but who knows why they were there. was george missing a shovel?
and then there is the reaking clothing C washed, taken from m’s reaking vehicle and walla did we hear the dna on them, nope, BUT it was said there is still dna on the clothing even when washed..
Michael what bridge
Flowerchild Kobey wasn’t on any side.
can’t forget georges statement, the body in my grandaughters car was not my grandaughter,accepting the truth that a dead body was in the car whose?
george had to get gas from the lot attendent to start the car when he picked it up from them according to the lot manager.
I read that about the gas too Michael. That G had to put gas in it.
someone can throw “one” to the pot but the evidence won’t be changed,
and that may be all there is to go on,
no body, just evidence..
also some of the bones that have been found we have never heard the results on, may never at this point since as you said some information is held back for trial.
Okay Cj what was the gas gauge stuck on.
I don’t think the bones are Caylee.
If they do find bones and they are Caylee we will know because LE wil defenitely arrest Casey.
if you would like to see the bridge go ot the Equusearch site and look under their searchs, there there and the bridge is shown too with all they found and noone has heard about that so who knows.
anybody heard if equusearch is coming back?
How do you get to their searches.
are has all searching stop for caylee as in body wise, i know the tips are stilling coming in about sightings, but haven’t heard anymore searches for her ground wise
i don’t know what the gauge was stuck on, G did start the vehicle and did add more gas to it, thats correct.
i believe that they wont charge murder until their ducks are all lined up in a row, EVEN IF the bones are Caylees and they know it right now. it will give them a bit more time to get their case together.
as far as the bridge and equusearch, those items e never heard the results of, as you siad maybe they are saving that for the trial.
jsut take a look at all of the ES site it has a lot of detail and mandy has done a good job of getting the truth out includeing about the bones,, nothing there folks just not there
I couldn’t find anything on searches.
flower,
same day equusearch pulled out was when they found the bones and clothing or whatever else,
they left for Aruba to continue looking for Natalie that day and said would be back in a bout 4 weeks when water receded from hurricane. so at that, they should be back soon.
mike and dac,
like you stated already they will not release information they plan to use in trial.
all i can tell you is tha i talked to tim on the phone the other day and he said the only thing going on was sonar searchs nothing else would be effective and that things would have to improve before they could do anything else. He was very down about the whole thing and said only m knows the truth and that may never change.
i agree only m knows the truth,
or does she – in that twisted mind of hers,
but i have faith and confidence that the truth will be found
and revealed in trial.
dak look for texas texasequusearch.org
tim what a guy, he is a kind soul
we just have to have confidence in the system, the professionals, that they will bring this matter to justice for Caylee.
but even tim said that he thought caylee was dead,poor guy had tears in his eyes
flower yes but he gets so darn personaly involved, it tears him apart, yet he goes on
flower, yeah he is all that for sure, still out looking for Natalie…
well natalie may yet be found there is new evidence that may pau off
yes when i heard about his daughter and saw his face on tv you can still see the pain of loss in his eyes,made me cry
well i think i am gonna go for tonight, this has been challenging to say the least, but it is what the prosection and defense will be up against, we just need to remember to seek Justice for Caylee and pray justice will come.
i firmly believe no one TRULY gets away with anything ever, anyway, cuz it all come back sme day, some way, what goes around, comes around ya know??
darn my typing is getting worse the later it gets sorry bout that
me too and my typos lol
no biggie we all do it.
nite all, sweet dreams.
bye cj see you later, i am fixing to head off to bed myself,and every night when i go to bed i said a prayer for caylee, and wish and hope she can be found, everyone is right it is not about casey it is for that sweet little girl
dak sorry look http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/09/02/search-continues-for-missing-caylee-anthony-texas-equusearch-searches-parks-woods-near-airport-exclusive-pics/#more-6003here for the bridge thing
George and Cindy Anthony need to do what is right for the sake of Caylee!! From what I have read, isn’t – wasn’t Grandma Cindy the one person closest to Caylee. Do what is right Cindy, stand up for your Grandaughter… Who else will, not her mother!! Is this the last memory you want of Caylee? They know in their hearts that she is gone! They know Casey better than anyone on the face of this earth.
Don’t keep going along with her lies, make a stand for Caylee. Stand up to Casey, once in for all. DEMAND THE TRUTH!!! IT WILL SET YOU FREE!!!
morning guys,
I had the whole night to think of things to say..LOL
TO start, the CDL on NG, said that for a guilty verdict you need three things.
1.How
2.What
3.Where
OJ had all three with forensic, and walked…
So, I don’t believe that is always nessary.
But, I’ve always believe that you diffently need a motive..
And everything that we have seen and heard is enough for me….Plus, it boils down to common sense and human behavior.
I thought that Jesse Grund hit some nails on the head on behalf of Monsters behavior…
In monster AI with police she said that her mother (cindy) NEVER gets mad at her or raises her voice to her….Kind of contradicts what other have said about Cindy…
One more thing, Caylee is not in PR…
I don’t think that her friends would have done such a thing and not felt compelled by now to fess up the truth. ( If that happen)
I can’t wait for reality to hit Cindy about Caylee, cause when that happens, she will be the one to put monster in jail…
I still think monster is hanging her from a string….
They have not found her because her body was removed from its original site.
She was buried on June 18th when Casey borrow the shovel. When her father saw the trunk of the car on June 22/23 it was clean. But when the car was found on June 30th, there was the smell of decomposition.
What made Casey move her? Did she confide in someone who told her to move the body? They are searching where her phone was pinging on the 18th, but the body is not there anymore.
And Casey would not carry a decomposed body very far in her arms, so it must be a site where she could drive her car into a secluded area.
I’ll bet its on Little Econ road or Goldenrod Road. Or she’s put her in a dumpster. Anyway…Caylee has been moved.
Interesting point. It’s possible that Casey did bury Caylee somewhere on the 18th and worried someone would find it. She then dug her body up and threw it in the trunk and drove around trying to figure out where to dispose of it so noone could dig it up, ran out of gas and tossed the body in the dumpster and then abandoned the car.
I think it’s interesting that after Cindy found Casey at Tony’s house and took her to the Anthony house, she told her brother Lee, she wouldn’t let them see Caylee because she was a “spiteful b#tch” and then she brought up that her mother said she was an “unfit mother” and she had stole from them and was a “bad mother, daughter and sister.”
To me, that’s “absolutely in a backward’s sort of way” an admission that she killed Caylee and got rid of her body out of spite. Like I suspected, she was conveying a message to her mother, you always said I was “unfit” and “a bad mother” so now I earned the titles.
Casey does remind me of a rebellious teenager who lies, steals and acts out to get away from her parents. Only Casey and Cindy were so enmeshed Casey couldn’t break free of her mother.
In her sociopathic mind, she probably believed Caylee was the “object” (she never saw Caylee as a human being) that tied them together. If she got rid of Caylee, she’d break the hold her mother had on her.
Instead, the opposite has occurred. Cindy is hanging on tighter to Casey now Caylee is gone and Casey has lost her freedom, hopefully forever.
Pallia made an interesting point on the day the car was abandon.
He said, that Caylee was in a bag in the trunk and monster took the bag out and put it in a dumper or recycling bin near the car. While doing so the bag must of torn causing her cloth to get fluid on them…
Ok that explains the smell in the trunk and on her cloths, but did she just take her cloths off right then and there and changed into something else?
Plus, does any of her close friends live near the Amscot? Maybe she just walked away from the car and went to a near by friend place..
You’re right, Allie. Interesting Point’s theory coincides with Padilla’s. Only Padilla thinks Caylee was killed June 23 before Casey abandoned the car. The police think she was killed June 16th.
Jesse said none of Casey’s friends had seen her between June 16, the last time Caylee was seen by George, and I believe it was June 23, when she called Tony to pick her up at Amscot saying she had run out of gas.
So Casey must have killed Caylee on June 16th and then spent the other several days burying the body, digging it up, putting it in the trunk, driving around and then finally disposing of the body and abandoning the car.
Casey told Lee she slept in the car for several days after Caylee went missing staking out Sawgrass to see if Zenaida was coming home. Someone would have seen her if she sat outside Sawgrass since Tony lived across the street and Amy and Ricardo lived at Sawgrass.
I left out my last paragraph.
I don’t believe the story she told Lee that she was staking out Sawgrass waiting for Zenaida, the nanny who doesn’t exist. I believe she may have slept in the car not knowing what to do about Caylee’s body.
I think you’re on to something C.C.
All so new news just released down here in Volusia FL… The computer data is now public knowledge… Check it out….You do have the resourses? Right..
Anyways, new video on Cindy Interregation, IM sent by Monster to the LE that was fired….Yummy stuff, plus all the deleted things… Happy hunting, LOL
Daughter has Dr’s appt today…
one gets me on that audio of lee when he said casey told him, this should have been done a long time ago, what was her meaning, to get rid of caylee in some way,and that would rid everyone of their problems as a family, it seems to me caylee was in the way,as to the fact casey wanted someone to adopt caylee,and cindy said no way
Britney Schreiber told Nancy Grace that Cindy told Casey many times that she wanted to adopt Caylee and then Casey could go party and do whatever she wanted. Britney said this made Casey very angry.
Britney knew Casey since she was five years old and now lives next door to the Anthonys and has a son Caylee’s age.
She also told Nancy Grace that Cindy told her the night she found out Caylee was missing that she knew Casey had something to do with it. Britney said Cindy told her she didn’t care if Casey went to jail for the rest of her life as long as she got Caylee back.
I think Cindy had basically had enough of Casey’s bad behavior – lying, stealing, mooching, not finishing high school – and disowned Casey but said she was going to get custody of and adopt Caylee.
That was why Casey took Caylee and killed her and then once she was rid of the problem partied with her friends and did what she wanted for a month until her mother found her and put a stop to it.
someone said the computer data has been released anybody know where it is?
Britney also said cindy knew casey was guilty of something,so why is she still protecting her,tell the cops to arrest her again
cindy should have forced the issue in taking caylee ,all she had to do was get herself a lawyer and fight casey to get caylee if she thought casey a unfit mother, i am sure she would have won her case
You guys are HOT today… and Concerned about Caylee, you are absolutely on FIRE with your well thought out comments!
Hey, I came on this blog last night and decided to stay out of all the madness. As I read comments, I was spouting off my view out loud but decided not to waste it on deft ears. I know that sounds rather offensive but I enjoy challenging opponents, not impossible ones.
Now, is anyone going to be on here for the next hour or so?
HI MMT
After observing C&G for so long, one can tell that they take great pride in keeping their home, property, cars and themselves very neat and orderly. I think C has always strived to make it look like her family was just as neat and orderly, yet desperately hiding a dysfunctional family behind closed doors.
Early on, in this case, C seemed to be able to keep her voice in control and was much less combative. But, with extreme stress came the failure for her to keep up her calm persona. Much like when she got angry and spouted off derogatory remarks, regarding monster, to m’s boyfriends.
So, now I’m starting to think that C’s denial is not only shielding monster, in her mind, she’s protect the entire family image, especially her own. C may feel that any accusations against monster are a direct blame against her as well. C may realize that the picture everyone is painting of monster reflects C’s own parenting skills. After all, she raised monster to be the person she is and did not protect Caylee from harm.
As I mentioned in an earlier blog, how many of us would know how to raise an “at risk” child… a fearless child who could develop in to a sociopath. Would we know what symptoms to look for… or did we learn that with this case?
Hi flowerchild! I finally have some time to read everyone’s comments.. Good job!
Haven’t read any comments yet, but have a comment.
Jesse has to be wrong in his adamant testimony that he heard Caylee in the background on June 24th, right? Not saying he is lying, but mistaken about the date, or that he indeed heard her voice.
I say that because she was home on the 24th ‘getting clothes’ when George found out the gas cans were in her car. And Caylee was not with her.
MMT i don’t think any parent would think their child would grow up and become the monsters they are today, as in some of the most evil serial killers we have seen,as they were growing up i really don’t think the parents seen it in them to advert that behavior,if i am saying this wrong let me know
some people are just pure evil, who knows what makes them that way,parents can try to raise their children with high morals, and empathy for other people,sometimes their is just bad seeds.Have you ever seen the old movie the BAD SEED about the little girl who was just evil, and lied and murder just to get her way,casey in a nut shell
Monday Morning Therapist, you are so right that we are wasting our breath on deaf ears. I expressed what I felt for myself. I knew deaf ears could never hear it. I will go back to minding my own business and just sharing my thoughts and responding to posts of people who are capable of listening.
You’re so right about Cindy having to keep up the family image to the outside world. That’s typical of dysfunctional families. They tear each other apart behind closed doors but to the public they smile and pretend like they are the Brady Bunch.
Your article on sociopaths being fearless children sounds so right on. I believe it starts at a very young age.
Dr. Bethany Marshall says that sociopaths never bond with family members. They always think of their own selfish needs.
I was corresponding online with a 60 year old woman I suspected was a sociopath because she had no attachment to her six brothers and sisters and parents. At the age of 60, she still believes that her parents were wrong and she was right when they told her at 12 years old she should have brought her baby brother in the house before going off for three hours with her friend. She left a baby on the lawn not caring about his safety at all and at 60 years old still can’t understand why her mother was upset.
MMT and fc: I think some parents, teachers and LE have seen aberrant behavior in children and often do what they can to get the kid help. However, there is little help to be had.
Even in extreme situations – a juvenile hurting small animals which is a big sign of a future sadist/killer or when a juvenile commits a crime against a person – often they only get sent away to juvenile detention centers where they are “supposed” to get help. But then they get out when they’re 21 and literally “unleashed upon the world” with no warning. Hence, today’s worst rapists and killers.
The system is pathetically unable to deal with kids like that. Usually they can’t be locked up or “committed to a mental institution” without having already committed a serious crime and then they just get out again anyway! This society does not deal with any kind of mental illness or personality disorders in a meaningful or really helpful way. Part of it is that we know so little about those behaviors and have so few laws to protect society against those people.
And as a footnote: whatever was wrong with monster before Caylee was born, Cindy only made far far worse by constantly belittling and criticizing her (if that is true).
the ending to that movie above the mother shot herself in the head when she realized what a evil child she had, the little girl got struck by lighting retrieving a medal she had kill a little boy that had it and she wanted it, so the moral of this story is you never get away with it,maybe the justice system, but not from god
Gumshoe, Jesse said he couldn’t be 100 per cent certain that it was the 24th when he heard Caylee in the background. He said it could have been another day.
I think Geraldo is right that Jesse is going to be a good witness because he was closer to Casey and Caylee than anyone since he acted as Caylee’s father for the year they were engaged. Casey and Caylee were in Jesse’s life on a day to day basis longer than any other boyfriend or friend.
Casey went from boyfriend to boyfriend and had few female friends. Britney and Lauren knew her the longest but they didn’t see her all the time. Amy only knew her a few months.
None of her friends had every heard of Zenaida Gonzalez and said they would have if she existed because they hung out with Casey during the period she supposedly had the nanny.
Also, it’s interesting that none of these friends have spoken to Casey since Caylee was first missing. They all loved Caylee and believe Casey had something to do with her disappearance. They also are shocked because she didn’t tell them Caylee was missing for 31 days and everything she told them was a lie.
flowerchild, you are stating it right! I would not be surprised at how many parents would not recognize an “at risk” child. That’s why my comment was not meant to blame C on how she brought up monster but to make us realize what is important in life. It’s nice to have a clean house, a well maintained lawn, clean cars but it’s even more important to make sure that each individual, in a family, is having their needs taken care of. Sometimes those needs are greater than what a parent can provide so a professional is needed to balance things out. The family unit can not be ignored… there has to be genuine sharing and caring.
what about the children who do grow up in good homes and have the moral support of their parents,who turn out to be killers,and with no outward signs that their mental staus was off base,how can you tell who is going to turn out to be murderers.,my childhood was horrendous i had a stepmother who abused me,but that didn’t turn me into a killer
C a C,
I did go back and read Jesse’s 31st interview. He did say he couldn’t be sure. So that is a relief.
I am so worried that because there is no crime scene, no cause of death, no body (which could still surface), and no definite time of death, that she will get off off this and because she has no prior record, may even beat the other charges with maybe probation and paying of some fines.
One day I will have so much faith in the system and the next day I realize they can only go with what they have.
If only they would have taken the car and everything in it that very first day…
I’m just feeling sad today because Caylee’s not out in her playhouse with her babydoll.
Monday Morning Therapist wrote:
It’s nice to have a clean house, a well maintained lawn, clean cars but it’s even more important to make sure that each individual, in a family, is having their needs taken care of. Sometimes those needs are greater than what a parent can provide so a professional is needed to balance things out. The family unit can not be ignored… there has to be genuine sharing and caring.”
So true. Unfortunately, most families are dysfunctional and kids are not seen as individuals. Many parents have problems in their marriage and focus on that instead of the children.
Many women who come from a dysfunctional family have empty holes in their soul and believe children will love them and fill that hole. When that doesn’t happen, they verbally and/or physically abuse the child.
If Casey is a sociopath, she would not have been capable of loving Cindy. That might have made Cindy feel rejected and so she may have verbally abused Casey. When Caylee came along, Cindy may have latched onto her and felt she could give her the love Casey couldn’t. This enraged Casey and led to Caylee’s demise.
Caylee’s death could have been the rock bottom this family needed to get into recovery and stop their dysfunctional behavior. Instead, George and Cindy continue with their codependent behavior of enabling Casey to pretend to be the innocent victim of the police and media.
They cannot change until they hit rock bottom and get counseling and go to a 12 step program for dysfunctional families.
what child is a mistake, cindy statement to casey, was casey a mistake when cindy had her, did she feel that way about her own child,chidren are not mistakes.Parents make mistakes when they have children and don’t want them. Cindy should have told casey to get on birth control,to avoid that mistake as she calls caylee
flowerchild, you are right. A lot of parents don’t have a frame of reference on how to raise a difficult child. They do it by trial and error and hope to God for the best.
Then there are those who neglect and/or abuse a child until they finally lash out on an innocent one or even the one who did the abusing.
Some kids grow up like Scott Peterson, O.J., and Casey. They are the apple of their parents eye–can do no wrong–if any wrong IS done, parents bail them out and then deny that their son or daughter did anything at all.
There are also those children born with chemical imbalances, or failure to bond, attachment disorders, undiagnosed problems that didn’t seem problems until too late–so many different things that can make a child of good parents go terribly bad.
I am not saying that C & G were great parents. Just from reading what everyone else has read, I can see major red flags that were overlooked.
But I can guarantee you, Cindy’s hands were tied as far as taking Caylee away from Casey. Child protective services do not operate that way. I KNOW. Because Casey still lived in the home, CPS would have done nothing but check up maybe a month later (too late)and by the time Casey went missing w/Caylee, Cindy was trying to find her and could have then put CPS on her trail to make sure Caylee was being taken care of. But even then, if Casey was living w/friends and Caylee appeared to be fed and clothed and no bruises, she would have stayed with Casey.
It wasn’t so much that Cindy didn’t do anything to help Caylee–it was that she couldn’t do anything about getting custody until Casey left with Caylee because up until then Caylee and Casey were right there in her house. After Casey left with her, it was too late.
flowerchild, god bless people like you! I do believe that so much of who we are is genetic. People, who are abused as a child, like you and still come up on top, are amazing human beings. I believe you had this wonderful, inborn mechanism built inside of you which helped you to tolerate the horrible abuse yet develop great values in life. I’m sure that someone in your background passed that beautiful gift on to you.
Gumshoe, I too worry that Casey might get away with murder. My concern is a jury. People on this blog are still believing Caylee could be alive and Casey may be innocent despite all the DNA and circumstantial evidence to the contrary.
I’m afraid some jurors won’t be able to wrap their mind around the fact that a mother could murder such an adorable beautiful little toddler like Caylee. How could she look in those big dark eyes fringed by bangs and snuff out her life.
Well according to local orlando tv station WESH LE plans to arrest Casey in the next couple of weeks for the dissappearance of Caylee.
cindys hands was not tied,my daughter and my grandaughter live with me to, and if i felt my daughter was not taking care of my grandaughter in the proper way i would kick my daughter out because she is grown and take custody over my grandaughter who cannot take care of herself
cindy did not do that for caylee a innocent child, but she protected a grown child by supported her unfit behavior, cindy is in the wrong and now she knows that, and now she is wishing she did take caylee away from casey,but now is to late
Concerned about Caylee said,in September 26th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
“I’m afraid some jurors won’t be able to wrap their mind around the fact that a mother could murder such an adorable beautiful little toddler like Caylee. How could she look in those big dark eyes fringed by bangs and snuff out her life.”
She could do it easily because Caylee wasn’t a daughter to her as our daughters are to us. Caylee was to her a huge burden, someTHING that was always always always in her way. Casey’s needs are men, sex, parties, money, manicures, tattoos, praise of her body. Caylee provided none of that. Caylee needed bathing/diapering/feeding/watching 24/7. Caylee was no more to Casey than a “heavy, hot wool trenchcoat in the beautiful FL sun” and Casey merely decided to take ‘it’ off and trash it.
I’m afraid the jurors won’t see it either.
But they WILL see if she cries when photos of Caylee are displayed or the DNA evidence is admitted to prove Caylee is dead. They will see her demeanor day after day. I hope that weighs in their deliberating.
you don’t always have to have cps involed in cases like this all you have to do is show just cause why you feel your grandaughter life is in danger by uncontrol parents, any judge would be willing to give a child to a grandparent for that childs well being
Concerned about Caylee, I agree with what you said regarding:
“My concern is a jury. People on this blog are still believing Caylee could be alive and Casey may be innocent despite all the DNA and circumstantial evidence to the contrary.”
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Lately, I’m seeing new people come on this blog who are not convinced of what happened to Caylee. Evan some semi-regulars, who once talked about Caylee being dead are suddenly talking about Caylee being sold. WHAT? WHAT ABOUT THE AIR TEST AND HAIR DNA in monster’s car? That alone speaks volumes to me!
I guess I just have to keep thinking that there will be jurors who, during deliberation, will be able to explain evidence to other jurors who may not quite understand. But, then again, I start thinking about people on here who we can’t explain it to, no matter what we say. One even saying something like he “would not convict on circumstantial evidence alone.”
Mamma Mia, take me off this rollercoaster ride!
flowerchild, it isn’t that cut and dried. Please believe me when I say, I KNOW. I worked with CPS in my state (and also CASA) for a while until I couldn’t take seeing children removed from a home and placed in foster care, then days later placed right back with an abusive parent. The whole goal of CPS is to keep the child with the parent. Granted they do order the parent to have anger management classes, parenting classes, offer housing and employment options. But it is up to the parent to attend the classes and accept the housing and employment. The ultimate goal however is to keep that child with his/her parent.
There are many grandparents nowdays raising their grandchildren. But 90% of those grandparents have had the child(ren) left with them. They didn’t have to fight for custody.
I have 3 sisters-in-law who are still with CASA and theirs stories are not happy ones.
Gumshoe wrote: Casey could kill Caylee “easily because Caylee wasn’t a daughter to her as our daughters are to us. Caylee was to her a huge burden, someTHING that was always always always in her way. Casey’s needs are men, sex, parties, money, manicures, tattoos, praise of her body. Caylee provided none of that. Caylee needed bathing/diapering/feeding/watching 24/7. Caylee was no more to Casey than a “heavy, hot wool trenchcoat in the beautiful FL sun” and Casey merely decided to take ‘it’ off and trash it.”
Brilliantly said, Gumshoe. I think you should do the summation for the prosecution. I am sure after that the jury would vote guilty. You got me right in the heart.
C a C said,
Brilliantly said, Gumshoe. I think you should do the summation for the prosecution. I am sure after that the jury would vote guilty. You got me right in the heart.
Wouldn’t it be great if we all could collectively do the summation? To put all our love and tears into that courtroom as mothers and grandmothers who have mourned a little 2 year old because her mother has not?
yeah were can we get those new postings from?
Monday Morning Therapist said,in September 26th, 2008 at 1:28 pm Lately, I’m seeing new people come on this blog who are not convinced of what happened to Caylee. Evan some semi-regulars, who once talked about Caylee being dead are suddenly talking about Caylee being sold. WHAT? WHAT ABOUT THE AIR TEST AND HAIR DNA in monster’s car? That alone speaks volumes to me!
I guess I just have to keep thinking that there will be jurors who, during deliberation, will be able to explain evidence to other jurors who may not quite understand. But, then again, I start thinking about people on here who we can’t explain it to, no matter what we say. One even saying something like he “would not convict on circumstantial evidence alone.”
Mamma Mia, take me off this rollercoaster ride!”
I’m with you. I left the blog last night because I couldn’t believe what I was hearing.
These “Caylee is alive believers” are like Cindy Anthony saying “air tests mean nothing. She’s alive. I know it.”
There is scientific and circumstantial evidence that Caylee was that dead body in the trunk.
There is no evidence that Caylee is alive. None of the sightings proved to be anything but three year old girls who all look similar anyway.
If Caylee is alive, some friend, family member, enemy of whoever is taking care of her would know it and would have claimed the quarter of a million dollar reward by now.
The only way I would change my mind is during the trial a Hispanic woman trots up the aisle holding the hand of a three year old girl who runs to Cindy crying “Mommy, Mommy.”
Then the cops would have another mystery on their hands. Whose dead body was in Casey’s car trunk?
Much as I would love to see that beautiful baby alive, I know it won’t happen. The best we can get is justice for her and see her murderer pay for the crime.
concernedaboutcaylee, that is what i am wondering to, if cindy and george are not convinced yet that it was caylees body in the car, do they think another body was in the car that had caylees dna with it, they know a body was in that car
Cindy has to know that Caylee is dead. Everything pertaining to Caylee (car seat, doll she would go nowhere without, all clothes, shoes, toys, EVERYTHING of Caylee’s) is accounted for.
What doting, caring, loving mother drops her child off at a babysitter with no diapers (they were in the trunk) no car seat (if Zenaida actually took Caylee to the store/park/beach), no doll that she wouldn’t go anywhere without, no extra suit of clothes (she was not totally potty trained and children make even eating)
Cindy has to know that if Casey just dropped Caylee off at the babysitter like any normal day, that all the stuff I call “baby attachments” would be with Caylee wherever she is–not left in the car and the closet at home.
I’m trying to find the released texts / emails.
I just happen to come across this reminder:
While Simon Burchhe, Tow yard manager, and George Anthony walked out to get the vehicle, George apologized for his wife’s behavior and also told him about their family’s problems. Burch said Anthony told him, “We’ll probably get divorced over this.” Anthony said their daughter was telling lies and refused to let them see their granddaughter. When they got to the car and opened the door, the pungent odor was overwhelming. “I mean it was, it knocked me back,” Burchhe said. “An then when he opened the car door and that stench come out, like my heart dropped because, he’d been telling me about his granddaughter missing.”
Flowerchild, I think Cindy and George both know that body in the trunk was Caylee and that Casey murdered her out of jealousy of Cindy and Caylee’s love for each other. They are just putting on a show of family unity because that’s what dysfunctional families do.
George and Cindy have never actively searched for Caylee. They claim she was kidnapped. Yet, they’ve never made any appeal on TV to the so-called nanny or kidnappers.
Cindy and George claim they don’t trust law enforcement and yet say whenever they get a lead of a sighting they forward it to law enforcement. They never have checked out any leads themselves.
The riding around town with the banner and candlelight vigils was not was a big public show.
Monday Morning Therapist said,in September 26th, 2008 at 2:10 pm I’m trying to find the released texts / emails.
I just happen to come across this reminder:
While Simon Burchhe, Tow yard manager, and George Anthony walked out to get the vehicle, George apologized for his wife’s behavior and also told him about their family’s problems. Burch said Anthony told him, “We’ll probably get divorced over this.” Anthony said their daughter was telling lies and refused to let them see their granddaughter. When they got to the car and opened the door, the pungent odor was overwhelming. “I mean it was, it knocked me back,” Burchhe said. “An then when he opened the car door and that stench come out, like my heart dropped because, he’d been telling me about his granddaughter missing.”
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Isn’t that chilling?
why would they not trust LE, because LE is confirming caylee is dead,and everything else is a lie the dna evidence air samples in their minds, they seen to get pissed off when things don’t conform to what they want a live caylee which is beyond anyones power now to produce because caylee is dead
I like all of you’s your all so fab. I think its time!!! Its time to put an end to this madness. How many more times can we go through this. How many more kids killed over the mothers hate or stubborn ways. Maybe just maybe there is enough evidence to convict this twisted lady!! Man can you imagine the babies face or the cries. What a mean lady!!!!
Gumshoe said,in September 26th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
“Wouldn’t it be great if we all could collectively do the summation? To put all our love and tears into that courtroom as mothers and grandmothers who have mourned a little 2 year old because her mother has not?”
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Gumshoe… you have a wonderful way with words! You express our thoughts so poignantly!
i guess i can relate to them and have empathy toward them,and struck with the thought i would never see that beautiful little face the way it was, where as to think of caylee decomposing somewhere, a harsh slap in the face
flowerchild said,in September 26th, 2008 at 2:18 pm why would they not trust LE
Because Baez has convinced them you can’t believe DNA evidence, saying he wants his own testing done because he can’t trust The Body Farm and that that air sample tests are too new to trust. Baez’s defense depends on a live Caylee because the body can’t be found. He has to convince C & G of that as well as jurors.
I am so tired. I have invested so much time into this case. And I am ONLY a citizen. I am just shy of being on the payroll…lol
I wish for the sake of everyone involved – this comes to an end soon.
I read on Brian’s Dreams – a search team found something last Sunday, but they won’t disclose what it is they found. All involved feel these findings will move the case forward – closer to answers.
there all guilty one way or another C and G need to put her out!!! She will have noone and nowhere to go she will give in she can’t stand to be alone.
Baez scares me.
I found his email address in documents filed through the clerk.
Is it illegal to post his email address on here?
I read on Brian’s Dreams – a search team found something last Sunday, but they won’t disclose what it is they found
desetrose, what team is searching? Local LE?
(I didn’t even know anyone was still searching after the college area)
shestwisted – i agree!
they should not let her stay in that house. Make life miserable for her!
I thought there was a law or something that prevented witnesses involved in the same case to live togehter, visit together.
This allows them to go over their story and work out all the “kinks”. Right?
Bad Move guys!
I need to say one more thing about future jurors. Most people know that defense attorneys love to seat jurors who will buy their baloney. Defense attorneys love to play, spin the evidence, spin the witnesses, spin the facts, and spin the truth… Don’t get me wrong there are innocent people who need defense attorneys, but they are few and far between.
The man in charge of the search is Wyatt. Here is his website…..
http://www.nostoneunturned.info
Check it out! 🙂
what about the searches on the computer for chloroform that is a way to establish what happen to caylee if the searches prove on how to use chloroform and to what purpos it was used for,all evidence can’t be wrong
Flowerchild, Nancy Grace believes the air tests showing chloroform saturated the air in the trunk proves premeditated murder.
Concerned & Flowerchild –
Chloroform was detected in the truck.
Somebody tried to do an extensive cleaning job, huh?
There is no innocent reason ANYONE would have chloroform!
If you or I need to clean something – we would use bleach or rubbing alcohol!
End of story!
Monday Morning Therapist. In most cases, jurors believe the prosecuting attorney rather than the defense attorney in cases like this where there is overwhelming DNA and circumstantial evidence against Casey Anthony.
Any juror who buys a defense as lame as the nanny did it when the defendant is a pathological liar and no one has met or seen the nanny but Casey doesn’t have the brains to even deliberate on a jury.
My theory –
When Casey made those flurry of phone calls to her mothers cell phone and her fathers cell phone – she was calling them to let them know that the terrible thing had happened. She explained to her father that she buried Caylee in the back yard. Her father then gave her instructions to move the body.
So, Caylee goes to her neighbor – borrows a shovel – digs up the child. Her car is backed into the garage to conceal what she is putting in the trunk of her car. She places the deceased Caylee in the trunk, who is decomposing. She then takes Caylee to another undisclosed location to get rid of body.
This is why there are traces of decomp in the back yard and in the trunk. There was also dirt in Casey’s trunk – another confirmation.
What do you guys think? It’s plausible.
I have one more beef…
Did anyone happen to notice that Dr. Kobilinsky of NG fame. (Forensic Scientist who is now on the defense’s payroll) said at the end of his segment… “I pray that they find Caylee alive.” WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT, if not a plug for the defense team.
I hope she throws his butt off the show. When he was neutral… that was okay.
Does anyone know if it is illegal to post Jose Baez’s work email address on here?
Maybe someone will give them a piece of their mind…..
Someone – Please respond…..
Hi Everyone,
MMT I couldn’t agree with you more. Kick his
a-s back to BB’s office.
desertrose… sorry, but no, I can’t go with your theory.
I believe that everyone in the family, with the exception of the monster loved Caylee dearly and would give their right arm to have her back.
I think the flurry of phone calls were monster’s way of checking on her parents to see if they were coming home early… or something similar to that.
I too believe that monster did this alone… because as I have said many times, her motto was “trust no one”
MMT,
I have always said that monster’s flurry of calls were to make sure the coast was clear.
desertrose, if you found his email address online, then it is already posted. I don’t see anything illegal with re-posting it.
If you are asking if Jan, who created this blog, would mind, I have no idea. We have posted links to everything else and they have been left.
Catherine said,in September 26th, 2008 at 2:58 pm MMT,
I have always said that monster’s flurry of calls were to make sure the coast was clear.
and I think you have always been right.
Hi gumshoe,
haven’t talked with you for awhile. Interesting video on orlandosentenial.com where C. I,D, the father of Caylee. His name is Eric and they went to school together, but then he moved to Teen. or Ky. and got married. G. & C. kept this information in case something happened to Caylee and they needed the father I guess for medical reasons.
desertrose,when she made those flurry of calls i am not for sure if anyone got those calls, i can’t be sure though
therapist and Catherine–I agree the flurry of calls both days were to make sure the coast was clear, rather than to report an ‘accident’ or a ‘kidnapping’.
There are so many names floating around about who the father was of that sweet little angel, who really knows, including monster. Her legs were open 24/7.
Monday Morning Therapist, I agree with you that Nancy Grace is nuts to keep the forensics expert Kolby, as she calls him, on her show. He sounds like a blithering idiot since he went to work for Baez. He can no longer be objective on this case.
And Kolby’s: “I pray they find Caylee alive” comment just shows he needs to go.
Can’t Nancy find any other forensic scientist who doesn’t work for Baez?
I could never stand him anyway. He seemed like such a weasle, just like the reporter Mark Williams, who always sticks his 11 size shoe in his mouth.
I also can’t stand Renee, the defense attorney, who is often on Nancy’s panel. She never says anything that makes any sense, loves to fight and always has that pained smile on her face.
Hi Folks!
MMT –
I would love to think that the family was not involved, but I just can’t.
Why are the grandparents hiding behind a criminal defense lawyer now?
Why aren’t they out there looking for Caylee?
Daughter or not, why would they stand behind Casey like this? It’s one thing to support your daughter, I am A-O-K with that. But to go along with all the lies your daughter has been telling – that’s damn near criminal – oh wait, that’s right, that’s why they hired the criminal defense attorney….
MMT – Yes Dr. Kobilinsky’s last line on NG (And I hope it IS his last line on her show ever) “I pray that they find Caylee alive” WAS a plug for the defense team.
I’m afraid we are all probably in for a big shock when we hear the defense strategy. They do not have to stick with the “Zanny did it” theory. They can push that aside as the “story” M had to make up for some reason and move right along to the “compelling reasons” she had for not telling the truth at that time. Of course BB has been busy thinking up all those compelling reasons and will be prepared. Then he will attack the DNA and other scientific evidence until the jury is cross-eyed. It will be very interesting to see if C & G end up on the prosecution’s witness list or the defense’s witness list.
I hesitate to even hazard a guess at this point.
Okay you guys… as hard as I try, I can’t pass this opportunity up. I’ve slightly changed CAC’s message. So, blame me!
Concerned about Caylee said “In most cases, jurors believe the prosecuting attorney rather than the defense attorney in cases like this where there is overwhelming DNA and circumstantial evidence against Casey Anthony. Any juror, named Dakster, who buys a defense as lame as the nanny did it when the defendant is a pathological liar and no one has met or seen the nanny but Casey doesn’t have the brains to even deliberate on a jury.”
Please don’t throw rotten tomatoes at me… I’m just kidding! Sorry, Concerned… I couldn’t help myself!
did anyone else catch what casey told amy about her father being in the hospital with mini strokes and she had to leave and go to the hospital,don’t know the timeline but it is in amys statement,now why would she said that,everything she says doesn’t make sense and easy enough to check on
Agreed, Kolby needs to be given the boot on this case. He’s so smug now. She made him famous. I wonder if NG will renew his contract.
I can’t imagine having a conversation with my daughter about who is the father of the baby your carrying.
Did C. say oh sweetheart, lets start with the letter A and we can just go through all the guys you slept with, ok honey.
Hi Amy,
I need to ealk with you later. I will email you.
LOL Catherine…….
hi Catherine!
Catherine said,in September 26th, 2008 at 3:01 pm Hi gumshoe,
Interesting video on orlandosentenial.com where C. I,D, the father of Caylee. His name is Eric and they went to school together, but then he moved to Teen. or Ky. and got married. G. & C. kept this information in case something happened to Caylee and they needed the father I guess for medical reasons.
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Am going to watch this now!! Thank you! I believe C hinted at this info in a TV interview (NG?) that the father had married later and now had a family and wasn’t in Caylee’s life.
Being the neat freak, organized folks they are, I couldn’t imagine them not keeping that info, if they had it, AT LEAST for medical history for Caylee.
Great, Cat! Can’t wait 🙂
Hi, Ms. Rose
Catherine, what you said in your 3:08 pm post was just to dang funny!
I hear there is a new story she is feeding to her parents : she sold caylee…..
So, what is that, story # 4
Also –
I am getting the impression that few people think Caylee went to Puerto Rico with Amy or one of those in that group that went…
Again –
This is all speculation – that’s what is so sickening about this.
Hello Amy!
Sad to say – nothing new yet 🙁
Gum, that’s so interesting…
Did you folks already check out all the new data being posted on myfoxorlando.com..
Very interesting data, on the army guy she was with and some of her activities..
I heard hints of that story last night… Do you think she’s saying this becasue she’s upset that Amy H. has turned on her?
desert rose,
Your right. She is know telling her parents that she sold Caylee to someone in Puerto Rico.
Monday Morning Therapist, I am LMAO because I thought of the same thing but didn’t do it because it is so peaceful on the board now.
You know, it’s Friday, they always drop good bombs on us to ponder over the weekend 🙂
MMT-
You and me – we are on the same team here 🙂
Looking at the webcam on the Ant’s house – it appears that they left their trash on the curb again. It could just be clippings, but, you would think that they would have learned about that by now..
Amy,
Of course she is trying to implicate everyone who went against her. She drove them to the frigging airport. Did Amy put Caylee in her suitcase?
This is like pick a story.
Gumshoe… I saw the video of C talking about Eric being the biological father but let’s face it… if it came out of monster’s mouth, it was probably a lie. Do you think that monster cared one iota about securing Caylee’s safety if anything helped to her or Caylee? I believe that she didn’t want anyone to know who the father was so she used her “Trust no one” with his identity.
Unbelievable… Just when you think that the story couldn’t get any nuttier it does… I’m combing through the new evidence released and boy, oh, boy, what lies we weave when we deceive.
Concerned about Caylee LOL… I’m just glad that you’re not angry with me for playing that little trick.
I think NG needs to be booted off the air. She is an arrogant egotistical b***h that belittles anyone that disagrees with what she says like only her opinions matter. And it sounds like all of you want no one on her show but people who all think alike and all their opinions are the same, which goes to prove that none of you are unbaised to be on a jury. I say that due to the fact that anytime anyone comes here with even a slight different opinion you go after them like a PA. You can’t even phatom any slight possibilty that a 3 year old girl could still be alive despite the evidence to the contray. And MMT your comment about the jury and Dakster. Well from where I stand I would have a better chance of being on a jury than you would strictly to the fact that I can keep an open mind about things.
On the orlando sentinel site there are the lastest photo’s of M. The last one is a drawing of a little girl that M. drew that looks just like Caylee and there is a teddy bear with a noose around it’s neck. She wrote the words:
Why do people
kill people.
who kill people
to show people
that
To Kill People is Bad
The above is the format of what she wrote on the drawing.
So, is momster going to say then the $700 or so that she stoled from Amy H. was payment for caylee?
Cassey sleeps around so much she may not know who the father is. There is probably 20 possible fathers. She tried to pin it on Jesse because he was a nice guy with a nice family like she never had.
I’m sure Cindy is glad there was no father in the picture. That way she had more control over her granddaughter. Not enough, though it seems.
Oh my, Cat!!
That’s terrible…
Might explain how she killed caylee, how sad
Can’t say that too was an accident..
Part of the reason I am remaining neutral and openminded is because all I have seen and heard is from LE and nothing from the defense. And unfortunately you can base an opinion on one side of a story without all the facts. And that is what kind of a jury they want, not someone thats ready to convict just by what they read.
Earlier a poster mentioned that C had gone to Puerto Rico to look for Caylee. She did not.
She went on camera – probably close to home or at the farthest in Miami – on Univision which is a Spanish-language television network in the United States and Puerto Rico.
Its major production facilities/operations are in Miami but very likely they sent a crew to the Orlando area to tape grandma’s “plea” to people in Puerto Rico to look for Caylee.
So grandma has not traveled any farther than a local strip mall as far as I know (where she handed out fliers). She’s never looked for Caylee.
Let’s stick her on the chair right now, unless she gives the people some answers!
Dak,
If you don’t like NG don’t watch her. Most of us like her opinion.
As for you feeling that everyone is against you that is not true. You are entitled to express your opinion even if the room does not agree with you.
You have made snide remarks about me that I choose to ignore ie: the Charlie’s Angel’s remark. So don’t sling mud unless you want it slung back into your face. We are all adults and respect everyone’s right to their opinion even when we don’t agree with it.
Hi Dakster…can’t keep out of the cat fights, now can ya?
I’ve got your back bud, though I don’t know why…just a sucker for punishment I suppose.
Hi All,
I am here for this post only s I have errands today and will have a busy next few days as well, but wil be reading when I can and post alittle here and there.
I second what flower said;
“so the moral of this story is you never get away with it,maybe the justice system, but not from god”
and MMT- agreed when Koby was neutral it was acceptable on NG show but now, whew!!
I was on here last night and agree no one needs to argue others points, I listened and responded with my points too. That’s what I like here, we all have something to offer and share. I was a bit confused as some of you stayed on the older fuller blog but looks like all are here now 🙂
Have a nice day everyone.
Exactly – if Cindy thought Caylee was alive – she would be looking! Bottom line!
Well said, Cat!!!
Thanks, Amy
Actually Catherine I wasn’t the one that started the Charlies Angels remark.
Catherine said,in September 26th, 2008 at 3:25 pm On the orlando sentinel site there are the lastest photo’s of M. The last one is a drawing of a little girl that M. drew that looks just like Caylee and there is a teddy bear with a noose around it’s neck. She wrote the words:
Why do people
kill people.
who kill people
to show people
that
To Kill People is Bad
The above is the format of what she wrote on the drawing.”
That fits with what Casey said to Lee the night the car with the dead body smell in it was found and Lee and Cindy were asking to see Caylee. Casey brought up that Cindy called her an unfit mother, said Caylee was Casey’s mistake and Casey admitted she was a bad mother, daughter and sister. Maybe Casey felt she made the mistake and so she needed to rectify it by getting rid of the mistake: Caylee to show it was bad.
And by the way you have everytime I came in to a blog without starting anything you attack me.
Rose, Cat, MMT, Cj & All..
I can’t get a good read on those receipts that were just released and the video shot captures, it looks like both relate to possibly a video store? Can you confirm, I can’t get a clear view on my copies..
Dad – We HAVE heard from the defense’s own mouth! All the lies monster told while she led the cops around by the nose to a bunch of bad addresses. And all the lies she told her friends!
I agree we have only heard a few of the lies and misdirections that the defense plans (these courtesy of BoBo) but they give us a good idea that the defense will have to be extremely creative to come up with a plausible alternative story. And, poor things (not)
they have to come up with one that disproves Monster’s own story and the LE evidence and testimony.
Catherine I wish you wouldn’t respond to any of my post. I’m not her to star anything and you just started it. i said nothing to or about you and you have to bring s**T up.
I’m not going to have this discussion with you about what you said. This room is not for this kind of he said, she said. I know what I read, and let’s just end it there.
Why don’t you try and be kind instead of trying to stir the pot all time.
Dak,
Grow up!
wftv.com
Computer Evidence Shows Casey Searched For Missing Child Websites
I wish I did live Orlando I would love to be on the jury if only to find out what the evidence they will use and the defense that the defense will use.
Amy –
I was not able to read the receipts either. If I could print out the document, maybe i could. But I don’t think this website let’s you print the documents. Does it?
The surveillance videos – were you able to make out the images?
Dakster… How many times have you complained about the same old thing? You’re like a broken record. Nobody wants to hear it anymore. You’re like a little boy crying because someone broke your toy. Grow up!
Evidently, you do NOT know the meaning of the word “neutral” It means – unbiased, not taking side, middle of the road, sitting on the fence. Now that you have learned the meaning of that word…. Go back and read why we want a “NEUTRAL” Forensic Scientist on NG.
Oh, and by the way… Nancy Grace is the BEST! I love all that she stands for!
Now, you on the other hand… I will skip all you futures comments, do me a favor and skip mine too!
BAAAAA BYE NOW!
Sorry about the “Dad,” Dak. I guess my mind combined Dakdude and Little Daddy but I didn’t mean to. The note I wrote above was meant for you as Dak.
By the way Catherine if you actually really read far enough up you would then know I only went with the Charlies Angel remark not make up.
Its okay 2cents you can call me either I don’t mind.
By the way I am a heck of lot more closer to neutral than anyone here.
Amy-
WTF?
What could possibly be Monster Mommies innocent reasoning for this?
Baaaaaa Bye Now… Dak.. I, too am no longer responding to your thoughts on the case.
That’s good 2c…maybe we should call him Dakdad
MMT.
Ditto
Rose, are you speaking of the article that I referred to?
I stick to the fact that Casey is guilty but until LE actually releases any documented proof about the DNA other then reporting it to the Media it won’t be for murder. She is guilty of fraud big time and neglect due to the fact that Caylee is missing and she doesn’t know where she is. If a body pops up anytime soon then I will accuse Casey of murder. All the lies and deception don’t mean anything but lies and deception, and since no one knows why she is lying other than theories she killed her daughter(still no proof she did)Thats all that I will take it as.
Dakdad now I like that.
Amy,
I think your post is for the best. I agree totally.
Of course that would be another alias. Better not I allready have too many(not)
There was also a theory out there that Monster Mommy has convinced whoever has Caylee that her family is crazy and trying to destroy her and take her child away. This “person” believes Monster and has not come forward to authorities.
Just one more theory to throw out there –
what you got MMT – Just joking 😉
You’re right Dak…they don’t read much do they? They apparently think you made that “Charlies Angels” comment. Well, that explain their though process anyway.
Actually, it was those three that gave themselves that name…you can look it up.
Sooooooo, Dak, don’t feel like you’re the only nutty buddy on here.
Yes Amy
With all the theories out there who’s to say what the truth is. We have all already proven there are different theories and possibilities, so what would keep a jury from thinking the same.
Did any of you read some of the released text / emails yet?
Well you know RV my wife has aleays accused me of being crazy and maybe I am maybe I should change my name to NuttyBuddy.
Rose, I can only wonder the crazy theories that Momster is cooking up.
Funny how everyone who knows, momster has to lawyer up. Everybody is ready for her rather of implications and finger pointing..
I wish I could read them but haven’t found them.
MMT-
Some of the deleted Myspace messages were way outdated – June of 2006? Is that really relevant?
Text messages – yes
Caylee wasn’t mentioned much, if at all.
Gee everybody is lawyering up I wonder what htey are hiding.
Reasonable? voice
I will not be replying to any of your posts either.
Bye Bye
Wow RV looks like shes after you too now(lol)
I think most of Casey’s myspace is irrelevant.
Amy,
The lawyers are cleaning up with this case.
Hiiiiiiiiiissssssssssssssssss…………..
I agree Dak –
I think most of Casey is irrelevant!
I bet everyone is lawyering up because they have something to hide.
Tisk – Tisk guys…..
They were after me even when pickle was here…It wasn’t until Pickle laid down the law that I actually realized something was going on in here. Guess that’s just me.
I think all of Casey is irrelavent(lol).
I just want to thank all of you for being here but I do have to ask that you stay on the topic rather than bickering back and forth with each other.
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Exactly – Why would the grandparents hire an extremely high profile defense lawyer to fight off media attention?
C’mon peeps
No I agree some people go after anyone with a mind.(no offense anyone).
I agree, the information that their serving up is very damning.. did you see momster’s interview that was just released from Aug. 1st…
WFTV.com
C talks about Zanny, and Caylee search in a new interview..
desertrose said,”Some of the deleted Myspace messages were way outdated – June of 2006? Is that really relevant?”
Text messages – yes
Caylee wasn’t mentioned much, if at all.
Thanks for the heads up Desertrose!
I totally agree with you Jan.
I’m sure the grandparents have their reasons and we shouldn’t jump to conclusions about what they are.
MMT –
You know I am just joking around with you, right? Its all out of love 😉
We need to be able to lighten the mood in this room 😛
I wonder if Equusearch is scheduled to return to Orlando?
I miss pickle!
Well, it’s for certain we still don’t have everything we need to know to formulate a more conclusive decision, and it stands to reason why.
Thanks desertrose… Jan is right.. so, I am going to research more of the releases!
Talk to you later! 🙂
I believe the grandparents were involved in this – inadvertently.
I don’t believe it was their intentions, but they let it go on to long and now they feel they need a lawyer.
I concur with MMT – going to read a little bit more
Be Back Later, All…
dessertrose…I’ve thought about the Anthony’s lawyer and he serves more than one purpose, in my opinion. First, the media seized the opportunity to turn this away from a missing child case and into a traumatic soap opera/psychological thriller. Secondly, if those statements about Cindy are proven true, and I think they are, then Casey’s attorney, if all else fails, will have no one else to blame except the mother.
desert,
I think the grandparents are grabbing onto anything that will keep M. from going to jail. When I read all the things that C. says about M. I understand why M. hated her so much. I don’t feel C. was a good mother to M. It’s that old saying you reap what you sow.
have you read the text message casey sent to her police lover, about the little snot head meaning caylee, and that caylee was with grandparents when they went on vacation
flower,
That is disqusting! How can a mother talk like that about her child.
M. was sadly, just a shell of a human being. To think that Caylee had to be mothered by this monster actually makes me sick. God, know what she did to this child.
Just wanted to comment on what M. said to Amy about the smell in her car. M said, two DEAD squirrels climbed under my hood and died.
How can two DEAD squirrels climb anywhere?
Be back later on tonight.
maybe they were zombie squirrels, DAY OF THE DEAD SQUIRRELS, what a chiller
WFTV.com is reporting the following POSTED: 4:16 pm EDT September 26, 2008:
“The computer records also revealed that, starting in June, Casey’s computer was used to search for Zenaida Gonzalez, the mystery nanny. The question now is whether she was trying to get background information on the woman, who she would later accuse of being the person who took Caylee.”
Flowerchild, I read that, and you know the first thing I thought was how Jesse described Casey as being more like the person she was around instead of being her own person.
I’m hoping they don’t find those type comments anywhere else, and hoping she was talking trashy like he talks just to get a long with him.
He sounds like a despicable person.
Flowerchild, where did you find the text messages?
Regarding computer search of Zenida – The question should be, “When in June?” Specifically!
I thought, and corre3ct me if I’m wrong, that others heard of Zanny long before June.
Concerned about Caylee –
This nasty message about Caylee being a “snot head” with the fired deputy- those are instant messages online
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17567142.pdf
Here is the link for the entire IM record
Yeah Ricardo said she mentioned Zenita which he could have misheard for Zenaida and that was before June.
Even Grund’s father heard of her.
Cindy stated that she knows of a Zanny being the Nanny – and that dates back to October of 2006 – she made a reference to that date – stating it was right after Caylee’s first birthday when the nanny was hired
I think the problem with most people is that they read stuff that is released by the media and don’t actually read everything all the way through, analyze and put 2 and 2 together. I’ve read through the docs and there are some things that don’t add up.
i think on myforlando.com has some with amy and britney to can’t hardly read them though
Supposedly Monster Mommy knew certain info about Zanny that is highly suspicious.
Monster Mommy knew the make and model of car Zanny drove – specifics
Monster Mommy knew the name and ages of Zanny’s children.
HOW?
If she did get this info off of an application at the apartment complex, who gave it to her?
DakDude – Like what? Please share with me
As far as the references to Zanny the nany going back that far couldn’t be a refernce to Xamax. If she was giving Caylee Xanax for that long of a time do you know what kind of effect that would have on a child. Caylee would have some many problem, because Xanax is not something you give to a child.
I would have to go back and read the docs to remeber.
There were specualtion awhile back about Caylee have bruises under her eye and people referenced that to Casey givu=ing her xanax or the chloroform.
The bruises were from an accident that Ricardo witnessed.
Well, if you think of anything – please share
This story is a mess – you can look at it upside down and inside out – and you will still have the same reaction!
Who? What? Why? When? Where? How?
casey’s new name on facebook page cassie kobe, as in kobe the forenssic expert,seems she is laughing in everyones face, nancy grace should be good tonight they just mention the statement that casey called caylee that ittle snothead
She probably made up the name Zanny for a nanny that didn’t exist like she made up the name of a job that didn’t exist. None of her friends or family had ever heard the full name Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez until she told it to the police.
She also named a man who was supposed to have introduced her to Zenaida, having used her as his nanny. However, Nancy Grace said when police spoke to him he said he hardly knew Casey and never heard of Zenaida Gonzalez.
Casey told friends and family and the police she worked as an event planner for Universal Studios and that was a lie. Police however discovered she was lying about that when she took them to Universal.
Casey never worked as an event planner for universal. She got fired in 2006 from Kodak where she took pictures of people getting off rides at Universal.
Dak, I thought I sensed at one point that Tony R. was trying to map out a route for Casey to drive…I don’t know the area…am I wrong?
I just sent Cassie Kobe a message on Facebook.
It goes as follows:
If this is Casey Anthony, then this message is for you!
Why are you doing this? I know you are scared. But don’t you think your daughter is more scared than you are? Don’t be a coward any longer. Come clean and you will stop waking up in the middle of the night with nightmares and night sweats. With honesty comes redemption!
If this is not Casey Anthony, please disregard and I apologize
I guess I could have been more harsh, oh well!
Gosh, desert, why would you do that?
Do you honestly think that is Casey? I mean, for the luv of Gawd…how’d ya connect those dots?
Gosh RV – It didn’t hurt anything! Did it?
Did it help?
It made me feel better!
Oh…that’s different…Lol!
It wasn’t rude, distasteful, or anything, so whats the prob?
Of course, if i feel better – that’s all that matters! (extremely sarcastic, if you couldn’t tell)
Lol!
now that I got that out of my system…..
RV – no bad blood here 😛
You betcha
Where did the Dakster go…reading perhpa?
I just hope everyone gets the answers they’re looking for……
I have said this before and i will say it again – I am tired of all. It’s like being on a roller coaster – that doesn’t stop!
perhaps…..just when you thought you have read all there is to read on this case – more documents are released!
who is buddy nyitelian03,because you really need to read those text messeages between him and casey, he and casey have no regard for caylee as a human being, she is refered by her mother as that kid ,you want me to bring the kid,him refering to caylee as a offspring,is the offspring handler coming,casey at least the kid is passed out,, him is she willing to get the offspring, very sicken by what i read
I have never followed a case the way I have this one. Does anyone know if it is common to release so very much evidence like this to the public at this point?
I’ve never heard of it but that doesn’t mean anything.
is he the police officer who got fired for lying about his relationship with casey, if so here is motive, they were angry because they could not see each other as they wanted, something got in the way caylee the offspring, casey wanted to be with this guy so bad,they need to look closer at this guy
Yes indeed, Flowerchild – disturbing
Yes…they both seem to view others as objects don’t they?
He seemed rather jealous of Jesse Grund didn’t he?
I also thought he may have felt emasculated by Casey.
The release of all this information is required by FL Statute as part of the Discovery process. All of these records are being released through the county clerk office
But……..in high profile cases, it is a common practice to not file the discovery documents with the county clerk and just submit them to the Defense.
This limits the amount of info that is provided to the potential jury pool
that was casey’s main concern in her life getting over this guys house but it seems when they made plans no one to watch caylee, when casey text him back and said you want me to bring the kid over, no answer back, then she said i didn’t think so,caylee was a thorn in their sides
mytwocents said,in September 26th, 2008 at 5:44 pm I have never followed a case the way I have this one. Does anyone know if it is common to release so very much evidence like this to the public at this point?
These documents are part of the discovery process for the November trial on child neglect/lying to police. Discovery is a court process where the prosecutor must show the defense all the evidence they have against their client.
Nancy Grace said that it is common procedure for prosecutors to file their discovery papers with the court, which makes it public record, and the media is free to get a copy. Because this is a high profile case, many media outlets are getting copies.
So, was I wrong Concerned about Caylee?
Is Fusions an actual club for entertainment purposes or just a gang hangout for degenerates?
It seems from one photo that all the guys look like they are part of something that only a select few are chosen for membership.
Also, I noticed that Tony L. (Casey’s latest) made a statement describing on of her friends as Caucasian…is this an issue in this case?
Friends have stated that Cindy was more of a mother to Caylee than Casey and that Cindy and George paid for all of Caylee’s food, diapers, clothes, toys, etc. and she had a room in their house since she was born.
I don’t understand then why Casey had so much responsibility to take care of Caylee. Most grandparents who take on the responsibility of a granddaughter take her to day care, pay for the day care, and watch her in the evenings. Sounds like Cindy and George just paid the bills and Casey took care of Caylee.
I was shocked how Cindy and George didn’t know their daughter didn’t have a job and didn’t know the name of her nanny and that Casey was dragging Caylee to boyfriends houses and clubs and parties.
Desertrose, you were only wrong in that you didn’t cite Nancy Grace. (Lol!)
RV – LOL
You caught me! it was on her show lastnight…..lol
Event planner sounds more subtle that party animal…don’t ya think CAC?
this guy did not want a child hanging around that is very evident,offspring handler!i see he had a high regard for a baby and casey played along with it because she was so enrapture by this guy sick sick
Enraptured…or just there?
Yeah…offspring…like a yearling, or a tadpole, huh?
CAC and Desertrose! Thank you! I understand!
Have to wonder what the prosecution may not be submitting to county clerk and keeping to submit just to the defense!
Anybody home?
Jesse Grund put it nicely – “Casey is a Chameleon.” She changes her attitude, clothes, slang and music type just for her guy of the week. Or flavor of the month…..
Flowerchild, I hate to ask this question again because someone may have answered it, but evidently I missed seeing it.
Can you tell me where I can find the released text messages on line? I’ve searched and can’t seem to find them.
Thanks!
desert,
Yes that’s true, but then he says he will always love her. I don’t understand how he could love someone like monster.
MMT,
I think I saw them on myfoxorlando.com
Mytwocents: in this case, I think the prosecution is giving everything to the media that the defense is getting.
This is just for the neglect case.
If they charge her for murder or homicide, they will then submit DNA evidence.
Also, kinda off topic, but oh well!
A few nights ago, the story broke that Casey Anthony had increased her Marijuana consumption. It was being implied that she smoked so much that she blacked out and then whatever happened to Caylee, happened.
I have to dispute that! C’mon peeps!
Don’t give her more BS excuses to hide behind!
Hi Catherine… thanks! I did go to myfoxorlando.com and didn’t see them. I saw everything else on there but the text messages. Unless they’re well hidden on that site. I’ll try again, thanks!
MMT- Here is the link to the text/instant messages.
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17567142.pdf
Well, just watched the Cindy interragation video. I don’t think Cindy is on broad yet…
I’m not sure what she is thinking, but she is in total denial…
Man, I feel for the LE on this case… Nobody in the Ants family can keep their story straight. Good luck Daez in defending a lie with a lie….Can’t wait to see this unraval.
C.C or MMT, MTC,
Why does Cindy always reach out to touch the person she is in dispute with? I’ve seen it a few times, when a protestor or LE are trying to talk sense into her….she wants to hold their hands or arms..I don’t get it…
Catherine-
Must be the “first love” theory
MMT go to myfoxorlando.com, hit caylee anthonys timeline, photos and webcam, scroll to where you see the photo galleries everything is there text messages to amy britney and this guy buddy
Alliethinks –
Cindy holding/hugging her opponent during a confrontation probably makes her feel like she is in control.
And we know she likes to be in control…..
Here is the link to the messages
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17567142.pdf
LE asked C. if monster ever brought Caylee home in the middle of the night. C. said no. Ricardo stated to LE that when monster was staying overnight at his house with Caylee that C. called and said to bring Caylee home right away. I think monster drugged Caylee and put her in her car then went back into Ricardo’s and went back to sleep. That baby was being drugged all the time. Everytime Caylee got in the way monster either gave her a xanax or chloroformed her.
about to watch nancy grace
Alliethinks… your question:
”Why does Cindy always reach out to touch the person she is in dispute with? I’ve seen it a few times, when a protestor or LE are trying to talk sense into her….she wants to hold their hands or arms..I don’t get it.”
Personally, I think it might be her nurse’s training. She’s been an RN for many years. I noticed too that she tries very hard to keep her tone of voice in control as well. Just a guess on my part though…
MMT did you find them yet?
MMT –
We’re thinkin the along the same lines – you say it’s her nurse training and I say it’s her way of staying in control.
I have also noticed the restraint she shows in her voice…..
Maybe it’s her way of controlling what she can, because she can’t control most things in her life……that’s my
flowerchild… thank you for the precise instructions! That’s exactly what I like! You must have been able to pick that up about me.
Thanks again…
oops.. . time for NG!
I provided the link for the messages….it should work
When monster said, Caylee was with zani she really meant xanax was with Caylee so I could party. I thought I read that drugs could be detected in hair for quite a length of time. I wonder if LE or the FBI tested the hair sample for drugs in Caylee’s system?
desert,
Must be that theory
Oh no, NG is not on the show tonight.
Somebody, shut that man up! (L. Padilla)
How is it that he, to this day, being removed from the case, still has accurate info on Casey?
Anybody?
don’t know how he gets his inform,but i think he is still very much on this case
I wonder if he is on the case just like you and I are on this case……(all speculation)
I think he is assisting LE. He may have been with LE from the beginning. The whole bond thing might have been a set up by LE so BH could find out information.
why is casey searching missing children sites before caylee comes up missing, strange
He is too involved and knows too much.
flower,
She searched missing children sites so she could see how to put the pieces together to report a missing child
Like Trenton Duckett
A caller on the NG show just called in and asked if Cindy’s father, the older gentleman in the video with Caylee, could add anything to this case.
Maybe he has dementia of some sorts, which can’t remember much valid info. If that’s the case, maybe Casey did say something to him – but it wouldn’t matter in court if he does have that illness or one like it….
Nice try though….
that video of caylee and her greatgrandfather very touching,you can tell that caylee was a very sweet loving child and she loved her pawpaw how sad to take her away from people she loved
It’s a moot point i guess
It wouldn’t surprise me if this child was also sexually abused for money. Even Amy said, how she was so affectionate with men.
It rips your heart out, seeing the pictures and videos of Caylee. She was a precious one.
C. is trying to set Jesse up for Caylee’s murder.
are was it after caylee came up missing kind of confused.can someone confirm that
Oh my Catherine –
I didn’t even think about that. I was wondering if there was some kind of underground sex ring with the Fusion Nightclub.
I can’t even imagine….my goodness
Sad 🙁
Just heart breaking.
Flower-
I believe she was looking up the missing children website in the beginning of June, but there isn’t a specific date… ???? ….
Monster would do anything for money. Even sell her daughter aka: snothead. That makes me sick that she would call her daughter names.
What a jerk
It’s one thing to call your child names in a joking manner, because there have been occasions when I have called my daughter a booger face, almost as a term of endearment though.
Her daughter was an object to her…..no emotional bond, it seems.
In Lee A. audio interview,he made mention of the day Caylee was born. He stated that Cindy was the first person to hold Caylee out of the womb, not Casey.
And there lies the problem
C. knows she killed Caylee. When LE is interviewing C. she has no answers to questions.
Her only answers seems to be I don’t know?
desert,
Your right, C. took over right away because C told monster she was not fit to be a mother.
chloroform used during sexual acts…..what?
According to L. Padilla, who stated it was reported by Ricardo Morales??
TMI
I think C. gave monster the motive to kill Caylee from day one.
I think C. should have let her learn how to be a mom – and observed from a distance. She could then step in if she needed to.
But that is a “should’ve, could’ve, would’ve…..
Because, who knows, given the opportunity to, C may have turned over a new leaf once that child was born. Sometimes, things just click when your child is born, and you change.
But again, that we wll never know.
As a mother I can say I would have known the name , address, and telephone number of a nanny that was watching my grandchild. Why the heck is wrong with these people? Why wouldn’t they ask questions about a person who is watching their grandchild. It just doesn’t make any sense to me.
new use for chloroform to heighten sexual activity, which padilla brought up and search my self more popular with the young crowd
My daughter went to a babysitter, who was a close friend of the family. Every day when I picked her up, it was “Becky this, Becky that, Becky painted my nails today, Becky did my hair today, I went shopping with Becky, etc…”
There are no reports of “Zanny stories”….only from Monster Mommy
Jeeeez!
also consider for male enhancement what!
oh my….
chloroform in car in pure form not diluted with other chemicals or water
It seems like at times they were playing tough love with monster. Trying to make her be responsible for Caylee. When C. saw that was an impossible task she should have gone to court for custody. Instead C. let monster take that child on June 15-16th knowing that monster was enraged and also knowing that mosnter had no place to go as per C’s myspace page. Why didn’t C. contact the police herself about the disapperance of her grandchild?
jesse loved caylee he never refered to her as the kid or little snothead are offspring as this buddy guy,he called her by name CAYLEE, i can’t believe cindy is saying he might have something to do with this
exactly – there are things that should have been done differently , but they weren’t and now she has to live with her choices.
Sad:(
Catherine – what you said about being a grandma and not knowing the name, address, phone etc of a regular babysitter is inconceivable to me too. In most households somebody else has to pick up the child or drop the child off at some point! And these days anyone but the mom and pop has to be known by the babysitter as authorized to do so! So C never even imagining that she might have to get the child one day – and not thinking of this! I just don’t get it!
And desertrose: What you said about children talking about their day and their day care provider! That’s right! Not sure how much Caylee was talking at this point but all somebody had to do was say how’s Zanny? What did you do with Zanny today? And the poor child would have said, “who?” Maybe that’s another reason Monster did away with her when she did.
For all C was supposed to be a loving grandma some of this (like the above) is unbelievable.
I think if Jesse were the father of Caylee, that would have been the best thing for her.
I believe that’s why Monster mommy tried to pin it on him. She knew he was a good guy.
What a waste MM is…
they still need to look at this buddy guy, those text messeages are damning in my eyes
None of monster friends ever saw never went with monster to pick up Caylee or drop her off. This nanny lived in the same complex as Ricardo, CJ and Amy.
Flower,
I do believe they are damning – Monster Mommy. Who should not have referred to her child this way. As for the guy – he has not attachment either way. Monster Mommy was his conquest, not Caylee. I don’t think he cared one way or another for that child….
HOORAY that Kobi wasn’t on NG tonight.
After watching NG tonight, I am more confident than ever that LE is closer than ever in bringing justice for Caylee! I’m sure the Ants watch NG on a regular basis and if monster watched it too this is one time she has to be shaking in her go-go boots!
I do wonder, however, what ever happened to the stain in the trunk? I never heard the result of that testing. I did hear someone mention that they “thought” it was a blood stain, but no one ever confirmed that.
To watch that video was heartbreaking because most likely that was Caylee’s last day on earth. My heart feels like an open wound.
my daughter’s babysitter came to our b-day parties for my daughter…..again – strange
Tony Lazzaro made it crystal clear he did not want an instant family. That was Caylee’s death sentence.
Mytwocents, you are so right… it is beyond my comprehension to even think that grandparents wouldn’t ask such a simple question as to where does Zanny live or ask Caylee how she spent the day with Zanny. Unbelievable!
the rosary beads throw me…any ideas anyone?
good evening people just watched NG, tonight was mild compared to last nights show with lee actually laughing, i wish i was superwpman that lee wouldn’t be laughing when i got done with him…that entire family is super duper warped…one thing i wanted to hear from tonight is what padilla was gonna say befor being cut off
Caylee was better off being put up for adoption. Monster, and C. were both unfit mother’s.
Hey Sabrina,
I miss NG. The show is not the same without her.
Catherine said,in September 26th, 2008 at 8:09 pm Caylee was better off being put up for adoption. Monster, and C. were both unfit mother’s.”
You are right on the money with that statement!
hi catherine ! yeah i prefer NG but she sometimes will cut people off in mid sentence, padilla had just started to say that george was attacking casey in order to make her tell where caylee was and jane cut him off, i’m like SHUT UP JANE ! i wanted to hear what padilla had to say
I think that is kind of silly about who held Caylee first when she was born. Maybe Cindy as an RN helped with the delivery. Really a non issue.
When my baby was born, it was first held by the obstetrician, than the pediatrician, than a nurse I believe and finally me. Would have loved if my mother would have been there and she surely could have hold the baby before I did. Much to do about nothing IMO.
Why would anybody resent their mother for that.
RV – re: rosary beads
Tony Lazzaro is Italian – aren’t most italians catholic…….another confirmation that she is a chameleon!
i feel so sorry for the grund family and more so for precious little caylee it’s so terrible to not have a choice and be bullied by someone like casey and her family, it’s beyond them to think of anyone but their selves
MMT
C. or monster never thought what was best for Caylee. Monster didn’t want Caylee and C. wanted to have another daughter that would love her.
Different forensic expert on NG this time. Did not see Kobi.
in the interview tonight with cindy, seems she’s trying so hard to blame jesse, what’s up with that !
snookers –
I am referring to the first family member to hold the child, not specific person.
My ob was the first to hold my child also…..C’mon
Cute though
Desertrose…great observation…that was my thought too until I ran across an article on the web about a gal being banned from school for wearing those because in Tx. it had become a gang symbol.
As in anything, and we’ve learned even in here, that there is always a counterfeit to the original.
i can’t for the life of me understand how a mother would be jealous of her own child
Snookers –
Revision – for someone who has an ongoing competive battle/relationship with their mother – something as simple as holding the child for the first time could have been an issue.
But the average person, who does not suffer from a mental illness, it’s not a big deal
That’s all i was trying to say.
RV – what? are you thinkin she is in a gang?
desertrose, doesn’t parents especially a mother want people to love their child the more love the better…i never had children but can’t imagine myself not wanting my child to be more loved than myself…it’s SO weird if that’s how casey felt
desertrose, I beg to differ please.
If your mother always undermined your confidence, then took dibs on a new born baby, how would you feel? Especially if she were the type to belittle you in front of your friends, and,appeared to compete for those friendships.
desertrose said,in September 26th, 2008 at 7:00
“Maybe it’s her way of controlling what she can, because she can’t control most things in her life.”
You make a very good point there!
Maybe not by choice is what I’m thinking desert.
i don’t understand dak why do you think that about cindy and casey, i haven’t seen or heard that cindy treated casey in that way, seems she’s lying for casey and sticking up for her
MMT did you find the buddy text, what did u make of them?
desertrose,
Frankly cannot understand why LV brought that even up, the “me first” baby thingy. He must have been there too. And Jesse was there too I believe. Must have been one crowded delivery room.
Take in to consideration that monster was 18 years old. She was a child having a child. It was a tug of war with C. and monster with Caylee in the middle. If C. said something that monster didn;t like monster took Caylee away from C. If C. wanted to punish monster she called her an
unfit mother. She told her Caylee was the best mistake but still monster’s bad mistake. This mother daughter relationship was so unhealthy and yet they wonder why their lives are going down the drain. Instead of blaming Jesse Grund for Caylee’s death, C and monster need to look into the mirror and ask which one of them really killed Caylee.
I watched some of Cindy Anthony’s interview with the detectives and she is as big a liar as her daughter. She hated Jesse because he defended Casey when she verbally abused her and now she is trying to tell the detectives that Casey was afraid of Jesse and Jesse did it.
Cindy told Casey’s friend Brittany the night Caylee she found out Caylee was missing that she knew Casey did something to Caylee and she didn’t care if she went to prison for the rest of her life as long as she got Caylee back. Now she realizes Caylee is the dead body in the car she is trying to pin it on Jesse.
Guess what Jesse spoke for hours with the authorities and took a polygraph and passed it, something Casey, Cindy, George and Lee have refused to do.
I heard the love in Jesse’s voice when he talked about Caylee and Casey. He sounded gentle, loving and caring. So Cindy don’t go pointing fingers at the only person who probably loved that baby as much as you did and wouldn’t hurt her for the world.
Jesse didn’t seem angry and out of control to me. He was always calm and sounded caring and kind. What other man would stay in a woman’s life for two years after she lied and cheated on him and dumped him for another man.
whoah, whoah –
Sabrina- I do agree with you. I believe a child should have many people in her life that love her – from day one. I am not arguing this point.
I am analysing Monster Mommys situation. Playing psychologist for a bit.
RV – We both agree on this point. Like I said, I was just analysing the situation. I agree. Her and her mother seemed to always be competetive. then they competed for Caylees affection. I get that.
I think Padilla is still on the case and has info but is just throwing bits and bits out there to scare lil miss monster! No evidence is better than the person confessing!
to right concerned ! also was told he’s the father, jesse had bonded with caylee there tried to stay in her life, he was quite possibly the only good person in the babies world
I think Cindy is also lying about Casey saying she was taking Caylee to Zani to stay all night. Doesn’t make sense because the child has her own bedroom. Why wouldn’t Cindy want her granddaughter home in her own bed? She and George are home at night. I think Cindy just wants to make everybody think there is a Zani out there to keep her daughter from the lethal injection. Everybody else knows she made it up.
as i said before i was 18 when i had my first child,my mother named my child and took over when i first came home from the hospital, and you know what i wasn’t jealous of my mother i thanked her for being so helpful being a newbie at parenthood i had someone to help me
I don’t think Jesse Grund had anything to do with Caylee’s death. Jesse was not in her circle of friends. Of all people Jesse would have taken Caylee as his own.
desertrose forgive my wording, i was actually agreeing with you lol…yes catherine i can see that picture with 2 mothers, but if casey didn’t want caylee she should never have been made to be responsible for the baby at any time, i blame cindy and george for caylees demise
Concerned –
Zanny isn’t a made up person though. Police have located a Zenida, the Zenaida Monster Mommy references. Only problem is, Zenaida doesn’t know who Monster Mommy is. The description Monster Mommy gave of Zenidas car was exact, make, model and year. Monster Mommy also gave names of Zenaidas childeren, which were exact.
I doubt anyone is scared of Padilla
He doesn’t scare me – he is actually comedic relief at times
flowerchild, I didn’t have time to go search for the text mess. until just now. Yes, I found them thanks to you. I would have never found them without your help! Thanks!
Now, if you can tell me how to make it bigger… I will be all set! 🙂 My mouse only has a right and left click… no middle button.
flip, flop, fizz…fizzzzzzzzzz Huh? Lol!]
i can almost see cindy messing up her daughter and thought she had a second chance to get it right with grandaughter
flower,
You loved your mother. Monster hated her mother for not living up to her mother’s expectations. Monster didn’t even graduate high school. If my daughter told me she was dropping out of school
I would put my arm around her and tell her that is not an option in my home. The difference between me and C is I would have spoken to my daughter with love in my voice.
well caylee had to be staying somewhere before she disappeared but where is the question.also on that text to buddy she stated my mom is taking caylee on vacation with her and my dad, while i go on my vacation, did that happen?
M did never did give a hood about her baby or anybody else for that matter, just numero uno.
I am sure that she loved to be in the center of attention after Caylee was first born.
Like a new trophy but that wore off real fast, considering all the work , that was involved.
At first I still thought that M may have accidently killed Caylee.
But the more , we read about her., the more it appears like a sinister cold calculated premeditated murder, that she accomplished all by herself. No help
Where is monster’s father through out monster’s life.
hi flowerchild, i don’t think that ever happened
She went down the rabbit hole, Flower…on July 2nd
flower –
Caylee did not go on vacation with grandparents 🙁
What? !! George Anthony is not Monster Mommy’s biological father? Please share what you know…..
i don’t know for sure but i think it was said that george is the father of both lee and casey
snookers,
I agree with you. This murder was well thought out by monster. As long as she has troops rallying around her she will continue to spin lies.
catherine, have you seen kris, i haven’t been on for a couple of days
Reasonablevoice said,
in September 26th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Desertrose…great observation…that was my thought too until I ran across an article on the web about a gal being banned from school for wearing those because in Tx. it had become a gang symbol.
As in anything, and we’ve learned even in here, that there is always a counterfeit to the original.
what is a gang symbol in texas?
Desert rose, I was saying Casey made up the name Zanny the nanny if Cindy, Jesse and Lee can be believed that she spoke of her before Casey went missing.
Zanny the Nanny was a children’s book character. Zanny is also the nickname for Xanex, a drug some mothers use to drug their children so they don’t need a babysitter.
The first time Casey mentioned a full name of the nanny, Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez, was to the police July 15.
Zenaida Gonzalez is a common Hispanic name. There have been more than 1,000 women with the name Zenaida Gonzalez identified. None of them were Casey’s nanny.
Police questioned the one who is suing Casey because she was at the Sawgrass Apt. June 17 when they believe Caylee may have been killed or already dead.
She was cleared after Casey looked at her picture and said she didn’t know her.
G. is the father of both children, but he cares more about his auto’s than his children. He is outside washing and drying his cars. His home is filled with a dirty lying monster. Maybe he should put the soap in her mouth so she will come clean.
man im slow!
The rosary beads…can you believe it?
is anybody getting my messages?
i didn’t think that caylee actually left with grandparents,from what i read,just trying to figure out why casey would say that unless caylee was already dead
rosary beads thats gotta be a sin? NEH
i still don’t think casey would give caylee xanex it’s to expensive and would probably want to use it on herself, much cheaper to use benedril or cough syrup, also padilla said tonight that youngsters are using chloroform these days
Concerned,
I think she stole that application from Saw Grass Apartments and got Zenaida’s info or she knew someone in that office that gave her the info.
i really do believe that the parents know what has happened and are covering up for the little monster!
Concerned –
You got it. She didn’t pick her out of the pictures, but Monster Mommy knew info about her that could not have been a lucky guess
ShesTwisted –
A rosary was considered a gang symbol in TX.
CATHERINE ! to funny girlfriend !
i believe that too Catherine plus on those apps you have to provide children ages make and model of cars etc.
Concerned about Caylee, your entire September 26th, 8:31 pm comment was spot on!
Evidently, C is willing to lie and play the evil blame game with Jesse as the sacrificial lamb. Oh, and by the way… I failed the diplomatic course at school
Sabrina,
I think she gave that baby something that knocked her out, and she put her in the trunk of her car.
I agree Catherine. Her friends lived in Sawgrass Apartments so she may have gone to the office for anything and stole or looked at Zenaida’s application. It is too much of a coincidence.
so she is able to get that info
Hello everyone…I am assuming everyone should feel pretty excited and elated that Casey will officially be arrested within the next 2 weeks. This is what we have been waiting to hear…I feel like a weight has been lifted hearing this news.
But, Zanny predates the apartment complex app…as told by others that is.
I’m curious why the apt. complex applicant didn’t take that apt.
this case isn’t driving me loco
RV – LMAO
Sabrina,
She was on here last night.
yes catherine i agree with that, but the cloroform still sort of confuses me, it costs lots of money, and according to NG show tonight it was a very pure form, i think it was used for something else not for caylee
RV – there is something in the water there!
for what reasons:
in September 26th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Hello everyone…I am assuming everyone should feel pretty excited and elated that Casey will officially be arrested within the next 2 weeks. This is what we have been waiting to hear…I feel like a weight has been lifted hearing this news.
hi kris and sabrina, what is casey being officially arrested for?
Yeah…Lol!
ah catherine speak of the devil lol
In connection with the dissappearance of Caylee according to what I read tonight.
shestwisted
Where did you hear that from?
I don’t think I read it wrong..it is towards the bottom of the article. Link is below. Just type http: (beforehand)
//www.wesh.com/news/17563488/detail.html
LMAO!!!!
Hi Kris,
Just talking about you. Did you see C’ interview with LE?
flowerchild, casey has numorous charges, i can’t remember all but it ranges from bad checks and child neglect lying to cops about her daughter
xanax was mention in one of the text messeages, someone text casey about a friend having some xanax, and casey said yeah lets party
Desertrose, in the interviews I heard with the detective Casey said nothing about a car and said that Zenaida had no children.
Before interviewing Zenaida, the police researched Zenaida Gonzalez and found out she had two children and the color, make and model of her car.
After she spent 36 days in jail, Casey told Padilla and Dick while they were guarding her that Zenaida drove a silver car and her sister Samantha had two children.
Here is the very bottom of the article:
“She has absolutely no idea where Caylee is,” Baez said.
In a matter of weeks, investigators said they plan to arrest Anthony in connection with Caylee’s disappearance.
When asked about the possibility that Caylee was buried in the back yard of the family’s home, investigators said they believe if the toddler’s body was there, it was later moved, and after a thorough investigation of the yard, they believe it was unnecessary to dig there.
desert…do you think someone peed in the pool?
hey kris ! catherine called you a devil LMAO !
No Catherine…I didn’t see that. How’d it turn out? Do you have a link to it?
I’m a devil? You must fill me in…lol.
She is being officially charged for Child Neglect – and by what I have read, the prosecutors have good standing on this matter.
Hopefully then, she will go to jail and be greated by the biggest, butchest, broad in there. Justice will be served – one way or another….
i’ll let catherine fill you in kris *GIGGLES*
RV – there was probably a floater or two, also
Kris… thanks, that’s an interesting article!
Uh oh! Sounds interesting. lol.
Kris.
myfoxorlando.com
I thought she was already charged with that
Sounds like it!!!!!!!!!!
MMT: I was so happy to read that. I only pray I am reading it correctly after reading the entire article….I really think this is the big one coming. They talk about triple checking results, and I have a funny feeling it may not be just the stain in the trunk and air samples…hopefully they found something.
I mean they will go to court/trial – she has already been charged.
Sorry bout that
kind of heard something to that affect today on tv but wasn’t really listening that hard, so now is she a official suspect in caylee’s disapperance and not just a person of interest big difference but i hope it is true
Sabrina,
What are you talking about? I called Kris a devil? Should I read between the lines?
MMT & Kris –
What are you holding out on us for? What do you know?
It just makes great sense from a lab perspective and from the legal perspective to dot all the i’s and cross the t’s.
I was under the impression that date had already been set for some time in Nov…did I misunderstand?
desertrose…the link is above I posted..they are supposedly talking about arresting Casey in conjunction with her disappearance (within the next couple weeks).
I’m with you Kris… let’s just keep our fingers crossed and our hopes for justice for Caylee high!
Trial has been set for sometime in Nov.
I may have been talking apples & oranges a few posts back – i don’t know anymore……. 😛
See now I thought the Nov date was for trying her on the neglect..this article talks about an arrest for the disappearance. Because the article goes through all the evidence they have, I can only feel that it is the arrest we have been avidly waiting for.
LOL ! catherine, i asked if you had seen kris, and she popped in at the same time, so i said “speak of the devil” then i told kris you called her a devil LOL just a joke hun i actually see kris as a imp lol just kidding about that too
I am sooooo happy about this, I wish I had a bottle of bubbly! That b*@th will finally get her just rewards!
Catherine, you said that “Tony Lazzaro made it crystal clear he did not want an instant family. That was Caylee’s death sentence.” And that was true of some previous boyfriends too and it all added up over time and came to a head with the big fight with her mom on June 15.
I’ve been saying all along that that contributed to Caylee’s demise. Monster wanted out of that house! And she did not want C to have the child. So the only way out was to get a man but no man wanted her with the child – except Jesse. But that was over long ago.
I mean it is not hard to believe this since it’s the exact same motivation that Susan Smith had for killing her two sons! She wanted to be with her beau who did not want a “ready made” family.
Kris – I see, I see
We can only hope that this happens. Everyone needs closure, not only family
Sabrina,
I thought you were referring to something that was said about “Charlie’s Angels”. Kris, Me and I think you or Amy.
Here’s the full story:
Casey Anthony: The Evidence
Anthony Could Face Charges In Daughter’s Disappearance In Weeks
POSTED: 8:36 am EDT September 26, 2008
UPDATED: 8:50 am EDT September 26, 2008
ORLANDO, Fla. — Without a body, witness or confession, investigators looking into the case of missing toddler Caylee Anthony said they’re piecing together a circumstantial case like a large puzzle.
And they said they’re working to fill the holes that they believe Anthony’s attorney will try to punch through their case.
On July 16, Orange County investigators used Anthony’s own statements as evidence to charge her with child neglect and making false statements. She admitted her child had been missing for one month and she did not go to police for help.
“The horrible thing that happened is — this is the honest to God’s truth — of everything that I’ve said, I do not know where she is,” Anthony said.
She also admitted that she lied to investigators during their attempts to find Caylee.
“I placed her under arrest,” Orange County Sheriff’s Office Detective Yuri Melich said.
At Anthony’s first bond hearing two weeks later, Melich dropped a bombshell: Anthony was a person of interest in her daughter’s disappearance.
“They found hair samples in the trunk of the car that were similar in length and color to that of Caylee. They also found a stain inside the trunk of the car that came up under black light that is questionable that we need to process,” Melich said.
On the stand, Melich also said there was an overwhelming stench of death in the car.
“In my experience, the smell that I smelled inside that car was the smell of decomposition,” Melich said.
According to other sources, lab tests have been ongoing as recently as this week to “triple check” that evidence. Investigators said they’re confident those tests will provide “iron-clad proof” that Caylee’s body was in the trunk of the car, how her body was positioned and that strands of her hair fell out after she died.
Investigators have also confirmed that high levels of chloroform were in the trunk, and they said they’re close to determining the dates someone researched chloroform on Anthony’s computer before Caylee disappeared.
One investigator said there’s still a critical element missing: a definite motive and criminal intent for why Caylee’s body got in the trunk.
Anthony and her lawyer, Jose Baez, have said all along that she dropped off Caylee with a babysitter in mid-June. Neither the child nor babysitter has been seen since.
“She has absolutely no idea where Caylee is,” Baez said.
In a matter of weeks, investigators said they plan to arrest Anthony in connection with Caylee’s disappearance.
When asked about the possibility that Caylee was buried in the back yard of the family’s home, investigators said they believe if the toddler’s body was there, it was later moved, and after a thorough investigation of the yard, they believe it was unnecessary to dig there.
no no, that was me you and kris lol
mytwocents,
I on the same page as you.
desertrose, Kris and I were talking about the article Kris posted at 9:06 pm today.
Sabrina…you guys can call me whatever, I am so happy with this news I read I am jumping for joy! By the way…I am so easy going I know people joke around…I am one who can dish out the teasing and take it too. Unless it’s and exceptionally bad day…But I’ve learned just don’t come on here then..lol.
I just read the full article. If what they say is true, the end is coming for Monster Mommy!
it is sad to say, but I am excited about that news. It is bittersweet, i guess 🙁
kris if i had some bubbly i would toss it to you…but sadly i’m dried out for the day and or more.., gonna get over sore throat thrush again as usual
By the way…I was trying to think of the names of the “Charlies angels” yesterday, and I couldn’t honestly remember them…I think there may have been a Kris? Anyone know?
G’nite
Ya know something…I wonder with all that idle time on her hands, and no friends any longer to talk to, if monster may have read that article on the internet. Bet Baez would be sweating a few layers off that lardo butt of his racing to pull his defense together! lol.
Hey Kris –
There was some kind of tiff on here earlier in regards to the Charlies Angels Comment. I believe it was with Dakdude 3…..it was to the point that Jan came on and posted a message reminding us to stick to the topic….
Strange – is that person a problematic poster?
G’nite RV
can’t find that article, can someone lead me to it i looked on myfoxorlando.com but can’t see it?
Kris,
No idea
desertrose,
I wondered who contacted Jan. Hmmmmmmmmm.
I don’t have a problem contacting Jan when things get out of hand for no reason other than stirring the pot up.
desertrose…I believe Dak is the one who came up with the name of Charlies angels. I didn’t even know about that until I read one of his posts. He was a little calmer the other night, but the night before…he was in his prime in here. He is frustratingly harmless..I have learned to live with him, I tease him back when he gets on my nerves.
desertrose dak, rv, and 2cents are the same person…but i decided he’s my favorite person, i love dak a doodle doo !
Catherine said,in September 26th, 2008 at 9:29 pm desertrose,
I wondered who contacted Jan. Hmmmmmmmmm.
Email me Catherine…if you get a chance. lol.
Kris,
Ok but I think you know what I am going to say already.
Sabrina,
You are too funny. How do you know that?
sabrina…Did you see my new name for him the other night in the blog…hedge hog? He was teasing about someonelse peeking into the blog he was in, so I confronted him with how he knew this unless he was peeking. The post is below:
Kris said,in September 25th, 2008 at 10:05 pm Sort of like that game with the little hedge hogs that pop up and you have to hit them with a mallet at the fair, that kind of peeking Dak?
Sabrina & Catherine – I think you are implying that I am playing with you guys on here. If so, you are so far off base.
I am me – DesertRose – one person, one name
Please believe that.
Sabrina,
I wonder where pammyliz is tonight?
if anyone contacted jan it was probably you know who, i don’t even know how to contact jan, not that i would though hardly worth the time or energy, she’s good with her posts and i like reading them and agree with her for the most part
desertrose,
I think you are who you say you are. Sabrina is just joking.
desertrose said,in September 26th, 2008 at 9:36 pm Sabrina & Catherine – I think you are implying that I am playing with you guys on here. If so, you are so far off base.
I am me – DesertRose – one person, one name
Please believe that.
Desertrose..please go back and reread that post, I honestly believe you read it wrong…she only forgot to put a comma in there. I knew what she meant.
I thought sabrina just forgot the comma is all…like she was telling her something but forgot the comma and it all seemed to run together.
deseertrose i didn’t suspect you so why do you think i am ??? pammyliz, i haven’t seen her for some time…am i missing something ? LMAO !
Sorry Guys – I misunderstood that.
I thought you guys were about to gang up on me. Again – sorry
The comma made all the difference
sabrina… it was just how your post read at a glance, but if you read it again it could actually be taken two ways. Honest mistake is all. I have always been able to see both sides, I make a good mediator. lol.
Sabrina,
Yep
desertrose,
Who ganged up on you before?
Jan address is jannyo@gmail.com
oh desert you have to read between the lines with me, i do type the letters but not hard enough sometimes, i don’t meean to but it happens, i made everyone guess what finger i use to type with the other night lol, no i’m not attacking you, and as i said dak is my favorite person now lol, he’ll be back soon as he sees his name lol, but i don’t think you’re him
Maybe if we call for him..he will come….Hello Dak…are you peeking? lol.
Come join the fun…they’re suppose to arrest our favorite person soon…we’re in here celebrating the news.
I think one of the other Charlie’s Angel’s was Sabrina
No-one, but I have seen it happen to other posters before.
I am not here to make enemies – we are all on the same team here 🙂
I feel kinda like a fool though -because I held a conversation with RV all night and didn’t know it was Dak.
Sneaky peeps on here – I think hey call that multiple personality disorder, right?
desertrose ? again ? i haven’t ganged up you, i can’t remember ever seeing your name befor tonight…it wasn’t me hun…sorry for not putting the comma in
I think you’re right about the angels name sabrina, Catherine…just can’t remember the rest.
Sabrina –
We are cool. I have no problems with you. We have a common interest – find Caylee!
All is good in this neighborhood, ok 🙂
AH ! catherine you’re right ! gosh my own name lol, well at my defense it was my hubby drulling not me LOL !
i thought casey already had formal charges on child neglect and that was when she was arrested the first time,are the new charges that she had something to do with caylees disapperance?anyone
Charlies Angels-Kris, Sabrina, and Jill
Ya’ know what’s funny…when you mentioned the email to Jan…I feel we should once in a while be granted a reprieve if we just need a few posts to destress… I brought in some very interesting news in here tonight..so what the hell if we have a little fun in between posts…It’s not like we don’t get back on track eventually…anyone agree?
I went and looked up Charlie’s Angel’s names because it was getting to me.
Now you jogged my memory Catherine..you are spot on with those names.
KRIS ! I AGREE !
I agree Kris –
It was very demeaning – I believe we are all adults here and can redirect ourselves when needed.
We don’t need a blog monitor – at least not all of us do, right?
Kris,
I think her email was directed at one or two people. I hope they got the message about stirring the pot.
Catherine – you got it right
yeah catherine, but my name was first, i was named after the movie “sabrina” in 1956 or 57 it was audrey hepburn who i wish oi looked like
Kris,
I went and looked it up because it was bothering me so much.
Interesting informative news for everyone should be rewarded! I was the puppy who brought laid the bone at the feet of my owners (lol!)…so my reward should be to be able to have a few laughs in between posts tonight!
Sabrina,
Wasn’t there a Sabrina the witch too. LMAO
Goodnight ladies –
Hope you all have a wonderful weekend.
Sabrina – thanks for the reassurance and making me feel all warm and fuzzy inside…lol
You gals are alright by me…..goodnight 🙂
hey guys it wasn’t me either who contacted jan i wrot her once to remove a post i put on and didn’t realize the thing was almost two pages long, i said i didn’t want my fellow bloggers to boot me off for the mistake, i am cool with everyone
i everybody,
I see there’s been a little squabbling going on in my absence.
I also see the great news that an arrest is in the works.
Catherine, I watched the video of Cindy’s interview twice. I am amazed at the patience of those two officers. I was pulling my own hair out just watching it. These people (the Ant’s) are the type people I run from–the ones who knwo it all before you speak, will not listen, ready to explain away even a cold hard fact staring at them. I was exhausted just listening to her.
I tended to think that she has just believed Casey so long that she got caught up in life and just didn’t verify (or didn’t know how to verify) Caylee’s whereabouts when she said Casey told her she was staying over at Zani’s.
But then I listened the second time. And even faced with the truth of other testimonies that Casey was at Ricardo’s with Caylee, she still wanted to explain it away.
Then she fingers Amy and/or Jesse as taking Caylee or knowing who has her.
She made me cry when she asked “Are you looking for a live Caylee or a dead Caylee?”
Tonight I don’t know what I think about Cindy. She said she hadn’t cared where Casey was and still doesn’t care where Casey is–all she cares about is finding Caylee. But then she turns and defends Casey’s stories and lies, or seems to–maybe she is trying to explain them all to herself and make them fit–whatever, she makes me nervous just listening to her.
kris everynight, we need a break from time to time, can’t keep on and on with this case, it becomes more like a job…we all want this solved, yet there has to be some down time
A few laughs on the eve of the monster’s arrest is warranted. I think I have a vodka on the rocks with a twist.
More informative news (because we care about all missing children) is that another sighting is being investigated in Spain on Madeleine Mccann. Child was spotted at a beach near Majorca (hotel resort), with two adult women darker in appearance. Couple states they were positive it was her…I am praying about this news. Link is below if anyone would like to see it. Just type http: (beforehand)
//www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/3086959/Police-investigate-claimed-Madeleine-McCann-sighting-in-Majorca.html
catherine yeah the teenage witch i suffered through that, lol also went through the sarina thing that i had to correct from bewitched lol…for some reason my evil mother deemed the name acurate for me
I haven’t had any alcohol in the house for months..wish I did tonight. I have settled on a cappacino instead! lol.
woo hoo catherine ! vodka !? i invite you to join me with that ! tossing vodka and orange flavored crystal light at ya !
gumshoe,
I thinl when monster finally goes to trial monster’s parents will finally see all the evidence against their daughter and resalize she killed Caylee. If they ever say it out loud is another story.
sabrina said,in September 26th, 2008 at 10:01 pm kris everynight, we need a break from time to time, can’t keep on and on with this case, it becomes more like a job…we all want this solved, yet there has to be some down time
I so agree to this… If you work fulltime already, wait hand and foot on people at home who don’t appreciate it, downtime is a good thing. And I feel a huge weight is lifted now since reading this.
btw: Monster has been on facebook a lot lately. She joined several facebook groups. One Thurs. called PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) Awareness
I’m afraid her stress is about to escalate, so this group will come in handy.
too funny gumshoe..lol.
kris did you read the other night when i blamed you for leaving the room early ? you said spagheti , so the next night i had to have some, there for your fault lol
kris did you read the other night when i blamed you for leaving the room early ? you said spagheti , so the next night i had to have some, there for your fault lol
eek ! how did i post 2 times ? i hope i don’t do that again lol
a arrest would be fantastic news to me, i am so ready for it. WENT TO A PARTY IN THE COUNTY JAIL,EVERYBODY WAS ROCKING THAT CASEY WAS THERE, EVERYBODY LET”S ROCK LET”S ROCK TO CASEY IN THE OLD CELL BLOCK
AHHH…The power of suggestion..Isn’t it amazing..It was good too.
flowerchild oh yeah, the inmates want casey they’ll have her confessing
flowerchild,
ah, an Elvis song suits the occasion!
(I am a HUGE Elvis fan 🙂
gumshoe
Are you kidding me. She is on Facebook in a post traumatic stress disorder group. She needs to join how to put razor blades in pencils for inmate fighting at the cement Holiday Inn.
Like your song flowerchild…Now the one I think of for Cindy is…”There coming to take me away, ho ho hee hee ha ha …to the funny farm”…She’ll need the white jacket with the extra long sleeves after all this comes down the pipe I’m sure.
gumshoe…I tried to email you a pic and exchange one with you but it would not go through I think it bounced back..did you get it?
Sorry to jump in here….but I was wondering if anyone else noticed on NG when they showed a list of websites that Casey visited – there were about 15 escort services….guess she did have a job. I thought it might be something like that – and maybe in a stretch you could call it event planning. This case is so tragic. Sorry, go back to your singing
She won’t last a year in general pop.
me to, can you imagine that scene in jailhouse rock when elvis was doing that song and putting casey in that picture so funnyyyyy
Catherine–she sure does! Those Lee Press-On nails wouldn’t hold up in a b$%#@& fight.
Elle,
I did see that. What’s that about?
gumshoe,
LMAO
Kris, did you send it to my personal email or my temporary gmail account?
KRIS that was so funny about cindy i cracked up i can picture that to, and saying no you have to believe me someone else put a dead body in the car i am not crazy
Elle, I did see NG and was (not) surprised to see the number of escort services websites she had visited. I’m with you—maybe she DID have a job.
I was more appalled at the Missing Children’s sites though. Great way to plan what to say and how to act just in case your own child should come up missing.
whers pammyliz? I am here. was watching the late version of NG tonight cause i mised alot. then got on here perusing the days blogs. seems an arrest is coming?????? and i read something abou tjan coming on to say stick to the topic, i know i get off of it sometimes, but its life, you know other things happen in a persons day other than M wrecking my days by hearing how she killed her child and as hideous all her actions while during and afterwards of the pre mediatated killing of her child… so, that said i think i will say observations tonight, the C interview, no words i can think to comment, hearing about sex sites the sex talk, the snot headreferences, the horror/picture of the kill someone drawing, its just too much , this has to end and i have faith it will.. the NG team saying this isn’t enough , for trial, but all we’re lacking is the body.. theres enough overwhelming evidence to convict anyone, its almost in my opinion as if all the “clues” she left behind, almost a telling of the story, before during and after she left so much behind, she wasn’t stupid, she knew those texts and emails and all of it could be found out, so its almost in my mind (tired) that shes like a serial killer who leaves clues or tells on themselves type of crime…anyone else see this? like she planned it, then couldnt keep it to herself, so she makes this elaborate story and then leaves us all the damaging evidence, the tattoo afterwards, all of the stuff she had to know LE would come asking about.. weird. plain weirdest case ever
HEY ! i want email stuff ! sabrina2larry@yahoo.com
damn it !
I’ll have to check gumshoe…hang on..I don’t remember..brb
Catherine,
I think she’s been selling herself – or interested in that as a profession. Look at all the boyfriends etc. A life that having a child would definitely be a problem too.
ELLe yes i saw that to and porn sites her JOB callgirl, but hey they make a lot of money and she is always broke, not unless she was a two dollar hole
gumshoe…It was an aol “elvis” one.
I still am confused about monster telling Amy that 2 DEAD squirrels climbed under her engine and died. How could 2 DEAD squirrels climb anywhere. Then she changed it to the squirrel being plastered on the front of her car. I have run over animals on the road at night and my car trunk did not smell like death, nor did the trunk have my children’s hair in it.
oh yah and the childrens missing website she is not stupid, anyone with a brain knows computers save everything when you hear her in elaborate detail talking abou tthe stupid sim car she knew all about computers too.. its like all this stuff now has proved a circumstantial case, she had to know in a weird way it would come out, she could not have just thought i’m killing her then making a fake kidnap story, without LE all over her doorstep. so that strips me up alittle, why so many clues and evidence left? to find? but then was sooo smart smart enought to hide her…as they say the devils in the details… and in the details we see prem-meditated murder…
my younger sis and i used to fight over who would be elvis’s girfriend we came up with elvis and avis LMAO
re read my post thats tripped me up…lol. nothing is stripping me up…lol
FC,
She may be…who knows. She wouldn’t be a high priced girl regardless – the way she talks no one could take her in public. She’d be a backseat girl I think.
Sabrina,
My email is decoranddetails@att.net
When L picked up the computer at Tony’s – he said it was blue screen, like a system file was deleted. She may have thought doing something like that might prevent future hard drive searches.
Who drops out of high school with one credit left?
sorry if that last post was offensive,but that is how i feel about casey, a broke hole that had to steal from her own greatgrandparents,what a sleazeball of a human
sabrina..tried to save your email under my contacts (it is fighting me..lol). For the life of me I can’t understand why?
There were a gazillion email alerts about the Mccann case in there…gonna have a look, maybe they found her!
catherine
yah she said dead squirrels. dead. never seen anythign “dead” crawl up in anything or under anything, i still say she planned this, and did not even bother to hide anything really, except now, where is caylee… hid that well…weird weird case, like someone said tonight on NG its almost too much fr us to try to figure out anymore…did she didnt she? we know she did. but then again in peterson case i had to say in that case same thing how did he possibly think he was getting away with this one? how? how did he think they would not find him out, and in this M case she was not only found out but she left 1000’s of details behind, not even a perfect murder, a messy one and now its up to LE to quote “catch her” or get her.. and they will
ok Kris–maybe you left out a letter or something. Can you resend it to CayleesVoice@gmail.com ?? Then I will resend the elvis one.
flower,
Your post was not offensive. Monster is offensive, and so is her mother.
nah, no worries. Cindy should of had an abortion instead of a monster
ok good buddies got your mail, gonna go off for now bye bye huns
they were zombie squirrels, night of the living squirrels greatest horror picture ever made LMAO
Why doesn’t C. just tell the truth to LE then
maybe people would at least respect her for telling the truth.
BRB
goodnight sabrina sweet dreams, and say a prayer for caylee
gonna reboot…I cannot save any emails under my contacts…Can’t figure this one out. Brb.
Catherine cindy does know the truth,but i think she is involved somehow in all this as far as knowing caylee is dead and covering for herself and who ever else might be involved, she is not going to tell the truth either
Finally fixed the problem…Got all the emails saved now.
Where the heck did everyone go…Hey guys! I’m smelling my breath for garlic! There is none.
Well, “good morning” sort of. I see I can’t leave for even a few hours without you (Sabrina and maybe others) again accusing me of posting under several screen names -specifically those of people you don’t like.
I’m really really sick of it. And I expect an apology.
mytwocents….go through all of my posts…I never said a darn thing like that. You are accusing me of something I did not partake in at all. That is unfair when someone is innocent of something. I live with a man who does this and it is very weary.
i don’t smell any garlic breath krisLOL
no garlic here.
Where did everyone go to? Noone said goodbye I think.
catherine said she would be back later
If I try to resend some pics gumshoe , would you send some back?
She left at the same time as sabrina I think….maybe their chatting?
sabrina said goodnight I think.
i am off to bed to have a headache and took a tynenol pm feeling kind of woozy now,hope there is a great bombshell this week!!!
yes, Kris, I will—I just sent sabrina one. I didn’t have her email until tonight.
leave a link if you guys move nite
‘nite flowerchild! Hope your headache is better soon and you can sleep.
I will try to send them should I try the gmail or are you sending the aol address back to me?
by..flowerchild..talk to you tommorrow.
use the gmail one CayleesVoice and I will reply from the aol one.
Hi you Guys
i got to watch NG tonight, i was heartbroken seeing Caylee alive on the last video of her, those big sweet beautiful eyes of hers and HOw she hugged her great-grandday was so touching..
i also watched C give her interview or whatever they call it, can’t think as i have a headache, anyway and listening to her talking to LE, she didnt say too many nice things about poor Jesse.
I am gonna be busy all weekend w/grandson but will poke in here every chance i get.
i miss chatting with you guys and hope you have a nice weekend. i will be back to read and post some too off and on just not regular for the weekend okay?
Hi cj, I think everybody has a headache tonight, especially those who watched C’s video. Lots of info to process today.
Have a great weekend with your little one. I’ll be popping in and out too. 🙂
Hi Cj… Just seen your post..was pokin around in my email for a minute..
Just sent you one gumshoe..let me know if you get it.
Kris, you have mail 🙂
You guys left me here.. help!
Kris is reading mail–she will be back I think, Amy–some have called it a night.
You take a very nice pic gumshoe… I never really envisioned anyone really though…maybe I’m just weird (not normal)lol.
I think I sent the pics to the other (1st one )one…hope they come through. If not let me know.
Hi Amy…Im still here… just reading some email is all. Gotta clean that mess up soon… Too many google alerts going on in there. lol.
thanks Kris–I’ll go check.
Hi Kris!
I just emailed some folks, too!
You can email me at
californiawineandcheese@gmail.com
Cheers,
Amy
Hi GumShoe!
I think I dropped you a line too, let me know if you didn’t get it..
If I send you a pic Amy…gotta promise to send one back.
Amy…Just tried to send you pics..but it comes back rejected..maybe your mail is full possibly?
Okay, I just sent one to you all!
heeee heee this is fun, too!
nope totally empty 🙂
I just got one from gumshoe..
try again 🙂 please..
californiawineandcheese@gmail.com
Kris,
Let me know if you’re still having trouble getting an email to me?
Ok..hang on..maybe I’ll try to send them in 2 emails.brb
Okay, I’ll hold on 🙂
I got everybody’s. There are some good-looking people on this blog! (with some precious children!)
Kris, i think I got it…
Does it refer to Halloween?
Sent it Amy…I know what it was now. When I got your email the first go round it was copy & pasted into my contacts missing an “e” in the email. It should come through now..please send a pic back.
This was the next best thing gumshoe… I had mentioned a while back how neat it would be for everyone to meet after they convict casey. Like a dinner get together (if we lived closer to each other..which would be impossible), but that would have been neat to all wear nametags to tell who we were.
Hi Kris,
Got it, but the picture wouldn’t open…
But, I sent you a picture 🙂
That would be awesome! A celebration of justice for Caylee!
If there’s a website or blog built by one of us in memory of Caylee, then we can meet there and have a cyber-celebration.
That’s strange..maybe its cause I forwarded it..Let me try one more thing..brb.
Dakdude3…..if you can’t stand the heat…..stay out of the kitchen! You whine more than any woman I know…. about being picked on. Does that come from a childhood insecurity? State your opinion(s) and be ready like the rest of us to take the opinions and criticism of others. Man up…….
That would be great, Kris!
http://inquisitiveandcurious2.wordpress.com
Amen, CHSAH!
Did you read my comment on IQ page that I sent for you?
Kris, I got them!
Resent them Amy..Let me know if they come through.
Where the heck is Dak? I haven’t seen him in here tonight.
Oh, boy, he’s been quite tonight…
Jan, didn’t read your blog before I posted the blog to Dakdude3…..shame on me! Sorry
Amy, are you talking about the “invite” on IQ?. I’ll check it out just to see if I missed something else.
Hi everyone…
Just been quickly scanning some of the posts above…but saw something about an arrest?? What’s up? Could it be??
Hi Mandi,That was my wonderful find tonight on the case. I copied the link above and it seems to be true…maybe within the next 2 weeks.
Hey Kris…how ya feeling?
Didn’t see the link but I’ll go back up and look for it….wouldn’t that just be the cat’s meow!!!
I’m ok tonight…I did a little self surgery last night with a needle. I was in way too much pain so like a fox with my leg caught in a trap…I was willing to do the unthinkable. I know I risk greater infection, but my md’s not back from vacation for another 3 weeks. The pain/pressure gets unbearable sometimes.
Wow, Mandi and Kris, and arrest would be great! Sooner the better…
CHSAH, just the personal memo on IQ’s site that I wrote to you..
Ya know …I saved IQ’s site..but when I click on it it will not open up. I’m thinking it maybe the wrong address or something.
Putting this case together has been a puzzle with thousands of pieces. Even though a few large pieces are missing, I believe the puzzle will still have enough pieces to come together enough for investigators to still see the picture for what it is. We can speculate (and we will) of what we believe happened, until all the facts come out in a trial. The LE has done their job in this case and as confusing as it seems to us, I believe they have a good grasp of what has happened and where they plan to go with this case (when they are ready). Scott Peterson thought he could lie, lie, lie and he spun himself a web of lies he couldn’t get out of. Casey is doing the same thing…..Scott Peterson’s web was spun so tightly by himself that he couldn’t get out of it. Casey has done the same thing. She needed motive and opportunity and NO ONE can dispute she had both of those…. based on evidence so far. Casey has a answer to everything, however, her answers are not adding up when all the evidence is presented. I still stand by the statement that people lie……DNA doesn’t. I’ve read some of the surveys about the case online and they were interesting!! The picture of Caylee on her greatgrandpa’s lap breaks my heart, especially when she looks up and gives him a kiss and a hug…….that makes me cry everytime!
Yikes Kris! Sounds too painful to imagine. Have you ever tried good ole moist heat? Put a wet towel in the micro and get it as hot as you can stand and hold it on the area and it just might help the pain and draw out some of the infection. I’m a believer in old fashioned remedies like my Mama taught me…LOL
Oh, Kris, that sounds terrible…
Isn’t there anyone else you can see – Re: Doctor?
So Brave!
3 weeks, whoa! Surely he/she has someone that fills in, right? If not, I would find me another Dr. for sure!
I know the pic you are talking about…it makes me very sad too. She was way too cute to be taken away by her monster mother. Casey needs to be put to death by a rag with chloroform held over her mouth strapped into a chair with restraints.
CHSAH,
I like you last memo: I agree, I lived very close to the whole S.Peterson case, and you’re right, the web of lies, eventually got him incarercated.
Has anyone seen his web-site that he maintains in jail… He still carries the same message of innocence as well as his mommy.. very simliar cases for sure…
CHSAH….oh me too….that video of her on great grandpa’s lap is so heart wrenching. When I saw that tonight I just went bonkers.
Hi mandi and CHSAH!
I am exhausted–I have watched Cindy’s video not once but twice today and tried to read all the news tonight in addition to commenting on here, so I am calling it a night.
So, all you fellow bloggers, stay safe, sleep good, and I will tty all tomorrow.
(Thanks for the pics and emails 🙂
After watching all of the new stuff on NG tonight, it just SCREAMS of premeditation!! Did anyone else come away with that thought??
HI Gumshoe! Sorry you’re leaving! Hope you sleep well…goodnight.
by gumshoe..talk to ya tommorrow.
Mandi, the advice with the heat wraps was appreciated unfortunately it is under my jaw bone…massive infection. It is very hard to get to…but i have a great md….he is just vacationing with his family right now.
Not to mention all of the websites she visited! OMG, I don’t think she was working it, I think the sicko is into other women. Remember the photos of her at Fusian….and reading all of the text messages, seems like sex is the ONLY thing on her perverted mind 24/7.
Think I’m gonna hit the hay for tonight too. I am getting tired. I look forward to monsters arrest… I will see you guys sometime tommorrow in here. Have a good night guys. I just can’t keep my eyes open any longer.
Goodnight Kris…Hope you feel better!
Yes Amy, I think Mrs. Peterson & C.A. should get together for tea! They are two of a kind.
Good Night, Kris!
Those site that the momster looked at are very telling…
Perhaps, she wanted to get a job as a call girl… I mean, she obviously likes the night life an awful lot… kinda seems, like a natural fit for the flooooooooosssseeyyyyyyyyyyyyyy…
However, I don’t think she was even that talented to have a career in that profession. There was a story a few years back about the girls of Dallas night clubs, who were working in the night to pay for their law school degrees…
Not only that Amy, but she was obviously broke, so she couldn’t have been working…I’ve seen some people actually refer to her as “pretty” – I’m sorry but all I see is a horse face…did you watch NG tonight?
I didn’t understand the part where Padilla said about George attacking her the first night she came home (when he bonded her out) and about the card BB gave her, from George? Did you hear that? Didn’t make any sense to me….
I did watch NG and agree with the horse face comment..
What really got me is that with every man she took a photo with she moved her body towards them, very seductively, IMO..
You know what, Mandi,
I heard that too!
I didn’t get it either…
I have NG on TIVO… Let me check it out..
At first, I thought maybe I had my wires crossed with some boyfriend..
but it seemed very seductive, right?
Yes, and flooooosey is putting it mildly…you’re too kind. I just thought after seeing the show, it just screamed premeditation. If BB is so sure LE doesn’t have any evidence, why is it that all he talks about is the forensic evidence and challenging it and filing motions to stop it?? Seems like he’s running scared. But now we know why she baked him the Brownies! Seems she likes to put Marijuana in them….no wonder she spends so much time at his office..LOL
watching it now..
I’ve played it back 3 times and I still can’t make heads or tails of it…
Totally Agree!
She’s not the “mother of the year” that the mother attests to…
There was mention to that BB send Momster had gotten from her father, that said, Daughter, I will stand behind you…
Sounds contrived…
It’s tough, Jane Valez, surely isn’t NG… Just kind of cut padilla off before he gave the full scoop!
I agree…but then seems like Padilla loves to leak little tidbits out everynight….keeps him in the spotlight! I take most of what he says with a grain of salt.
She must of thought of her self as being such a diva in bed, that perhaps, she thought of making a business out of it, hence the search for all the escort web-sites.. I noticed a few entries in So.Cal.. near where that army dude she was talking to lives… Perhaps looking for a career path??
I’ve kind of been out of the loop for the past week on here so I’m not totally up on everything that’s been happening….Seems like from what I’ve seen though tonight, the case was sort of at a snails pace and then BAM, all of this stunning info tonight. Most defense attorneys all say there is still not enough evidence to file charges, but there was one that said there was. I just don’t see how there couldn’t be given the info that came out tonight on NG.
Or maybe she’s into women too….just a guess but I keep thinking about the photos of her at Fusian dancing seductively with other women, etc. ..It just defies belief that she can act this way while her precious baby is gone. I wonder what’s happening in the Ants house when the family sits around watching all of this on NG? Are they having a coke & popcorn?????
Is there another tape of C’s interview somewhere? Because NG tonight seemed to show very little and seems like there would be much more.
I know, Mandi..
The defense, always has to keep that posture, I suppose..
Kinda like the Dem and Rep race… there’s spin-doctors on both ends..
But, IMO, tonight on NG and throughout the broadcasts, I see the defense changing postures… A formal charge of murder is upon the momster very quickly… The DA’s office is playing this case out very well and professional, IMO
I think she’s into Women, and what ever else gets the guys thinking she’s some freak.. She’s a very hyper sexual momster
I understand the posturing but he’s not very good at it. But you’re right, I do see a slow undercurrent and position change from the defense perspective, excluding BB of course.
Guess I had better say goodnight Amy, I have a very early wake up call in the morning……enjoyed the chat though!
Nighty, night! Mandi!
Always, a pleasure, chat with you tomorrow!
Ditto Amy! Nite,nite….
Its saturday, and I was disappointed that Nancy Grace herself wasn’t on.
Some key points to make.
I realize how important it is to find Caylee body , but when that happens, won’t the defense team go into:
1. How
2. What
3. Where?
Are we in the same position now, without a body? We still don’t know the three questions…Is there anyway justice wouldn’t be serviced “with” a body?
Or is the sentencing different?
Hi, alliethinks! I don’t know about sentencing but I think if there was a body it would help because any doubt about the child being alive would be gone. BB could not use that strategy to sway the jury.
However the case might still be a little weak because the body might not show the how, what or where – and especially WHO did it. So if all LE has are forensics they have to be rock solid because BB will attack them – whether they are accurate and he’s already claimed that LE lab scientists are lying! Can you believe that?
I felt so bad when I watched the video of Caylee with paw paw. It was so sweet. Sad at the same time too.
I wonder if there is truth in Padilla statements? He seems to care enough to put monster away for a long time… I think he REAllY wants to find Caylee body.. With everythings he leaks out, I wonder if someone here is following up on it…
I did see today that volunteers where out looking for Caylee…If anyone was still wondering…They looked for her last week too…
I don’t live that close but I could drive within a hour to help. I might do that next weekend if they go out and look again. I didn’t get the info til yesterday where the search was to meet.
HI! MY2CENTS,
Were you on last night? I don’t do nights..LOL
I get a little time in the mornings.
What did you make of the new released info on the case? pretty sad..
The thing I notice was monster dislike or burden Caylee was to her. It is obvious she is was looking for a man to take care of her. Just like Jesse did in the beginning. I feel sorry for the people that have been in monster life…
Thank you, alliethinks. I did not know for sure that they were still searching. Do you know where they’re searching and what organization is searching?
Be careful if you decide to help.
I mean wear the right clothing and bug repellent and drink lots of water and carry a big cannon in case of alligators (EEEK!) And it will probably be exhausting and you’ll have an hour’s drive back home!
About the horrible comments Monster made when talking with that awful old boyfriend: Remember someone said she’s like a chameleon? (I think it was Jesse). She takes on the characteristics of the person she is with. That’s because she has no character or emotion of her own. I think if she was with a guy who loved kids and loved Caylee she’d act that way, too. But when she’s dating a guy like that then she acts the same way – the kid’s a real pain. I don’t know that she has any emotion of her own. But I do think that she realized that Caylee was getting in the way of her gaining freedom and a more permanent relationship. So I can see her very practically and intentionally doing away with her.
http://twitter.com/NoStoneunturned
Here is website that does live search update…
This is a site I came up on thorough this blog..I hope that helps you out M2C….
Hey M2C, I’ve got to make this short, hope to read some good stuff later…Til then..
OK After reading all that has been said in here I feel the need to once again add my comment here.
I have checked out all the names in here that has been posting and as far as I can see there is no one here posting under different names pretending to be someone else. We know this because we do see the real IP addresses.
A few weeks back,yes I did spot one but since I left a comment about it, it has not happened again. Hopefully this will clear up the mystery I saw mentioned about the same people posting under different names.
As for the comments being monitored in here, I monitor all the comments on Blogger News, not just for my own articles written. We do this to prevent foul language, off topic spam and other abuses.
Thanks,
Jan Barrett – BNN Editor
Jesse is so right about monster becoming a chameleon in a relationship. It’s not unusual for people who are lie to do that.
The Chameleon Syndrome is the ability to become whatever the character calls for in hooking a guy. A woman will adopt his viewpoints, his attitudes, his hobbies, and his dislikes, etc. Her personality will change to suit his. She may become a cook, switch religions, accept his friends, become humorous or serious, develop a relationship with his relatives, or whatever else is called for. Of all the traits of the world, this chameleon syndrome is one of the most lethal.
The reason it is so deceptive is that in her mind, a woman feels that she is completely sincere about her new behavior. She could take a lie detector test and pass. There is nothing dishonest in her mind. Consequently the male detects nothing improper because everything seems normal. In her chameleon transforming a woman will adapt to her environment for sex and/or survival. The male innocently concludes he has met the “right” woman.
The relationship only lasts until the woman is sick of the guy and she moves on to her next victim.
goodmorning every one
wasn’t those text messenages between casey and this buddy guy the cop that was fired remember they were having a steaming chat line going on, i don’t think that was jesse, i think i heard that on nancy grace that it waS THE FIRED COP?
mytwocents what you said in yout above post, perfect motive for getting rid of caylee, her freedom, she did not care about that child at all, just her next booty call
I agree about motive, flowerchild. I think it all came to a head and that was it for the poor little girl.
And I was thinking that it was Jesse who said she was like a chameleon but I could be wrong. But it was definitely another guy she was texting and being mean about Caylee.
If LE brings new charges against her does anyone know if that will mean new bail or possibly no bail allowed?
We may have to prepare ourselves for “anonymous” to get her out yet again. Ugh!
no i am pretty sure it was the fired cop, remember he lied about know casey thats when they find out them two were having sex chat
i am just wondering if the new charges is now officially charges of her being the main suspect in the disapperance of caylee, couldn’t find anything on the charges
The charges are being filed in a few weeks.
Here’s the full story:
Casey Anthony: The Evidence
Anthony Could Face Charges In Daughter’s Disappearance In Weeks
POSTED: 8:36 am EDT September 26, 2008
UPDATED: 8:50 am EDT September 26, 2008
ORLANDO, Fla. — Without a body, witness or confession, investigators looking into the case of missing toddler Caylee Anthony said they’re piecing together a circumstantial case like a large puzzle.
And they said they’re working to fill the holes that they believe Anthony’s attorney will try to punch through their case.
On July 16, Orange County investigators used Anthony’s own statements as evidence to charge her with child neglect and making false statements. She admitted her child had been missing for one month and she did not go to police for help.
“The horrible thing that happened is — this is the honest to God’s truth — of everything that I’ve said, I do not know where she is,” Anthony said.
She also admitted that she lied to investigators during their attempts to find Caylee.
“I placed her under arrest,” Orange County Sheriff’s Office Detective Yuri Melich said.
At Anthony’s first bond hearing two weeks later, Melich dropped a bombshell: Anthony was a person of interest in her daughter’s disappearance.
“They found hair samples in the trunk of the car that were similar in length and color to that of Caylee. They also found a stain inside the trunk of the car that came up under black light that is questionable that we need to process,” Melich said.
On the stand, Melich also said there was an overwhelming stench of death in the car.
“In my experience, the smell that I smelled inside that car was the smell of decomposition,” Melich said.
According to other sources, lab tests have been ongoing as recently as this week to “triple check” that evidence. Investigators said they’re confident those tests will provide “iron-clad proof” that Caylee’s body was in the trunk of the car, how her body was positioned and that strands of her hair fell out after she died.
Investigators have also confirmed that high levels of chloroform were in the trunk, and they said they’re close to determining the dates someone researched chloroform on Anthony’s computer before Caylee disappeared.
One investigator said there’s still a critical element missing: a definite motive and criminal intent for why Caylee’s body got in the trunk.
Anthony and her lawyer, Jose Baez, have said all along that she dropped off Caylee with a babysitter in mid-June. Neither the child nor babysitter has been seen since.
“She has absolutely no idea where Caylee is,” Baez said.
In a matter of weeks, investigators said they plan to arrest Anthony in connection with Caylee’s disappearance.
When asked about the possibility that Caylee was buried in the back yard of the family’s home, investigators said they believe if the toddler’s body was there, it was later moved, and after a thorough investigation of the yard, they believe it was unnecessary to dig there.
Hi everyone!
This is just a thought…
I noticed that Jan commented again today and I think we each owe her the courtesy of a response just to let her know that we read both of her posts and will comply with her request.
I myself, have to shamefully admit that I got carried away and wrote rather derogatory comments. (I will not be doing that again.)
I’m including the date and time of Jan’s comments for everyone to review in case you might have missed them.
Jan Barrett said,
in September 26th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Jan Barrett said,
in September 27th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Thanks Jan and Thanks fellow bloggers!
new blog 117911 Petition to prevent caylee anthonys familyprofit for movie deal, justsigned the petition myself
thanks Jan for writing some awsome blogs and we will try to go by your guidelines.
hi everyone signed the petition too find it so hard to believe that anyone would give that family a single penny unless it was in anyway to help caylee,i can imagine m probly at home right now planning to have party 24seven,waiting for the bright lights of hollywood and becoming a world superstar,well the only star in that house of horrors was little caylee.
Hi, flowerchild! I had to leave the computer and then, of course, could not find the article about the possible future charges. But maybe you have already seen the full article posted above at 12:11 by Concerned About Caylee.
And thanks for the heads up on the new blog petition!
everybody moving to the new blog?
thanks concerned about caylee for posting that have been trying to look up lots of articles on possible charges as i live in ireland and try to keep up with all. do u think that they should dig up garden anyway incase there could be some evidence there?
Hi everyone!
Glad Jan cleared up the confusion about the people posting comments. Now maybe those who can’t understand much will at least understand that Dak, twocents, and myself are not the same person.
Has anyone seen the video interviews?
jist saw the one with cindy
and i think jan is right, we need to stop cutting each other down, this is not about us anyway, it is about caylee and how we feel about justice for her,and for the ones who think casey is innocent she will see her justice to
What did ya think Flower?
still think cindy is covering,now when this all started with the dead body smell and the results from the dna testing,everything is changing,she says when the cops ask her about the smell in the car it is i don’t know, yes she knows they all do,now it is a save your ass type of situation,you don’t hire a high profile defense attorny to shoo away the media you hire them when you know your ass is on the line
when this first siarted yes i felt c g and lee where innocent of the fact that caylees body was in the car,now all the evidence is coming back and they are sure trying hard to backpedal on everything they said
sorry mistype started OOPS!
WHY HASNT SHE BEEN GIVEN A POLY? THIS IS NUTS FORCE HER TO TAKE A POLY TEST!!
What are your thoughts Reasonablevoice?
THIS MAKES NO SENSE SHE NEEDS TO BE FORCE TO TAKE ONE
UN REAL THIS STORY HAS GOTTEN SO FAR TWISTED
Glitter, sorry they can’t force her to take a poly, just like when they ask cindy george and lee to take one they refused against their rights to force them
I DONT SEE Y NOT? THEY CAN SUPEANA HER CANT THEY?
AND ANOTHER Y IS IT TAKING SO LONG FOR THOSE DNA RESULTS? IT TAKES 1 MONTH?
it would seem if they were all innocent of something they would go ahead and take it to clear there name, and prove they had nothing to do with it,plus casey, speaks volumes doesn’t it
i think they ar waiting to drop the big one
WELL THERE TAKING TO LONG TO GIVE SOME RESULTS AND WASTING OUR TIME WONDERING IF SHES ALIVE?
she is not alive glitter all the dna evidence points to caylee being dead,if she was actually alive i don’t feel like the dna evidence is wrong even though baez whats people to believe that
glitter you have to remember there is alot more evidence out there that hasn’t even came into play yet,but it will
What are my thoughts Flower?
First, I’m trying to juggle between the blogs to see if I’m welcome…thank you for asking my about my thoughts.
Second, I think Lee and George have decided to leave Cindy out of the loop because, let’s face it, she really isn’t much help.
well i must leave now and go to work,see everyone tonight when i get home,if you are not here will catch up with you on other blog bye everyone
well don’t see much of george and lee here later, and you are right about cindy i think she is losing it mental breakdown type of losing it
and i wonder why cindy is the main person on tv all the time hardly ever see george and lee
and Reasonablevoice you are welcome, as i said in above post,this is not about us, it is about caylee
really must run going to be late OMG
did anyone else ever here padilla say theres a child book out there with a character named zanny the nanny
did i here something about another blog?
Yes, I remember Padilla saying that there is a children book with Zanny the Nanny as a Character is the story line…
Have you seen this book?
i have not but i remember seeing someone saying that she’s been talking about zanny the nanny in may and i was just throwing that out there for them
where did everyone go?
alliethinks and sHeStWiStEd: Yes there is a children’s book called Double Trouble Squared about twins who have a nanny named Zanny. I looked it up and found a paperback copy published in the 90’s and another edition published in 2008. Don’t know when it originally came out.
Some people may have gone to post under a new article here on bloggernews.net It is article # 117911 about a Petition to try to prevent the Ants from making $ on the disappearance of Caylee. To get to that article just use your browser and replace the number of this article (which appears after .net/ with 117911
It’s possible people will continue to post under this article and/or move to the other one.
Hi Everybody,
I read that the girl that was with the BH group has asked for immunity when Orlando LE wanted to interview her when they went to CA.
She apparently got very close to monster when she stayed inside the Anthony Home with monster. Monster must have said something that was incriminating about herself to this girl.
Did everyone move to a new blog?
I’m new to this site but I’ve become obsessed with this case and it looks like I’m not alone. I couldn’t sleep thinking about Caylee being sold to someone, somewhere, and how terrified she would be. It seems that the Anthony’s have circled the wagons and are going to protect (enable) Casey no matter what. I think Casey is LOVING all this attention; a person like her can’t be shamed or forced to tell the truth. If there were some way to completely shut off all media attention for Casey she might say or do anything to get it back.
Also, at 22 yrs old her parents are under no obligation to take her in and yet they do; they are guilty of (at least) being accomplices after the fact.
Welcome forwhatitsworth!
Some people may have gone to post under a new article here on bloggernews.net It is article # 117911 about a Petition to try to prevent the Ants from making $ on the disappearance of Caylee. To get to that article just use your browser and replace the number of this article – 117894 – (which appears after .net/ with 117911
It’s possible people will continue to post under this article and/or move to the other one.
hello peoples
hi catherine sorry for last night my inet went kapoot, i’ll be changing from hughes net after my contract is up
dak dude wude hi there how does it go ?
Sabrina, for everyone’s sake and the sake of our blog please scroll back to see Jan’s post at 10:05 am this morning.
huh, why not just tell me dak ?
dak, just because your post doesn’t come from the same ip address doesn’t mean you’re not the same person posting on different pc’s, i have 3 different pc’s in my house…but i’m ok with you, like i said last night you’re one of my fav persons…no worries dak, i asked for a truse a very long time ago
I am not Dak. And you accused me yet again last night of posting under three names. That’s not a “Truce.” I’m really sick of it, Sabrina. Spreading unsubstianted rumors and bad mouthing me like this is abhorrent and unnecessary. And it really has no place on this blog.
ummm sorry im at work so you know went away for a sec
Okay Sabrina I am one person and one person only. I only have 2 pcs in my house and one of them is my wifes which she uses for work and I am not allowed to use and also if you have 3 or 4 pcs in one house and one IP provider then yes all computers have the same ip address.
I’m curious as to what anyone who signed the petition is hoping to accomplish. Is it just to show the number of people that won’t watch the show, because surely it wouldn’t have any power to prevent anyone from making a deal or movie concerning this.
Elle, what can it hurt?? Why just sit back and let it happen without giving your voice of opinion? You never know what you can accomplish unless ones tries!
hi all, hey just wnated to let some know on here, I don’t think I’ll be writing anymore. I may read your blogs, but last few days when i leave comments, noone is talking to me lol and… the back and forth about who is who on here and jan having to come on here, well theres too much about that, and i come on to discuss the case, I get personal too at times and thought it was ok. but after coming home and reading this fighting on the blog well. and not be even acknowledged really. maybe i better quit. I am only one little person here. I do enjoy blogging, but do admit it takes up so much of my time too. I just dont really have alot of time unless its late. I have met some very nice caring people here. I will keep on following the case. for sure and pray for justice each day. I just don’t wanna come on here and read everyones picking at one another like children, and everyone ignoring people who have their own opinions..if anyone does wanna write to me let me know and I’ll give out my email address. esepcially MNT you seemed to be fair on this blog always listening to everyones posts, and never attacking…thanks guys, i guess no news today that i have heard…
pammyliz, I care about your opinions and comments 🙂
Pammyliz if you read this, Please don’t leave. The fighting is over and if you blog again, I promise I will acknowledge you. I read your blogs and enjoy them. I miss you.
Please join us in blogging onJan’s new blog about the petition to stop the Anthony’s from making money on a Lifetime movie contract. Blog #117911.
Hey pammyliz! I know for a fact that I have responded directly to many of your posts! (although maybe my responses don’t count for much, I don’t know).
And I’ve appreciated your presence and thoughts on this blog. Often my comments are not directly responded to either. I figured out two reasons for it. One that I do not take personally is that by the time I’ve typed and posted my comment the group has moved on, several new posts appeared and no one sees what I wrote and/or they are on another topic. That’s understandable and sort of just the way a blog works.
The other reason as you can guess is that I was personally attacked, accused of using multiple screen names etc. Think about how that feels and be glad you were never a target. But I’ve stuck with it.
Your leaving is an example of exactly what I was afraid was going to happen as a result of that kind of talk but I think and hope and pray that all that unpleasantness is behind us.
So please stay with us, pammyliz. I swear I’ll go back to all the blogs and find the notes I’ve written to you to prove it if I have to!
And that will take a heck of a lot of time! So please don’t make me do that! Stay with us!
oh ok lol i felt ignored lately lol… i just think the back and forth is silly. even if someone on here blogs under 3 names..2 whatever, its ok by me, i don’t know i’m talking to 2 different people..lol so what I dont know doesn’t hurt me lol
i do only have this time of night to blog really, I work till 9 and then try to spend time with liz when we get home but she poops out on me and then I stay up and blog
I will move to the other blog… see whats going on with the petition…
thanks guys i feel needed again lol ( i wasn’t gonna stop reading tho), you guys are great , i love all the posts… i try to read as much back as I can. but i will move now when you all do to this new number
Elle, remember the public uproar about OJ’s book “If I did it?” The publisher pulled the plug on it. And of course the Goldman family sued and got the rights and re-wrote it.
So the public can give a publisher or production company or network an idea of how well or how poorly they will be thought of for doing something. Of course the decision probably ends up in the hands of the statisticians who figure out if the product can still make money. Unfortunately a public outcry against some things only makes it more popular. Like giving a dirty, violent movie a PG rating – creating a public uproar – then changing it to PG or R but only after all the teens have already heard about it and want to see it.
So there’s no guarantee. But I don’t see anything wrong with expressing our opinion even to big time, big movie, big ego, money grubbing idiots (like 20/20 and possibly Lifetime). How else is anyone going to know that some people in this country still have morals and values?
Pammyliz and Elle: Move over to article 117911
now. Most are over there. See you there!
Quote: *“two dead squirrels crawled up under the hood of the car and they died in there.”*
Must be zombie squirrels (otherwise how can two DEAD squirrels climb anywhere/). I hear they are quite the bother in Florida the closer it gets to Halloween.
This chick needs some serious shock-therapy.
she needs to be force to take one.
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