35 Somewhat Random Comments on Montana and Secession from the US

Mostly from the AR-15 Forum

The story of the Supreme Court case, Heller v. D.C. and the Montana attorney general, Secretary of State and legislators warning the Supreme Court that if the Court finds that there is no individual right to bear arms in the Constitution, is going to get interesting, to say the least.

It appears that if the Supreme Court sides with the District of Columbia in disarming gun owners and invalidating the constitutional protections contained in the Second Amendment, they would be in direct opposition to what all 50 states have guaranteed their citizens in the 50 state consitutions: the right to bear arms and protect themselves.

This has sparked questions.

If the Supreme Court decides what is constitutional and it runs counter to what every single state has clearly worded as a guaranteed right in the state constitutions, written at the time those states freely joined the Union, what then?

At this point, we’re not going to speculate until we do more research.

BUT that hasn’t stopped others, particularly gun owners from weighing in on the consequences.

At the AR-15 Forums, a large forum for gun owners, the comments have been flying fast and furious since the news of the Montana legislators sending their warning to the Supreme Court that a finding of “collective right” would violate the compact the state signed with the US government when the state freely joined the Union.

Many of the comments there–and one in particular at DBKP–struck as as so entertaining, informative, funny or a combination of all 3, that we decided to round some up and make them into a story.

We now present a somewhat random sampling of 35 comments on the Montana story from the AR-15 forum.

“Arizona Constitution

Article 2 Section 26 – Bearing arms

Section 26. The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the state shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain, or employ an armed body of men.”

–innocent bystander

“If AZ and NV go, Hoover Dam and all the power generation come with us… CA can build their own power plants.”

–Gravity Tester

“I will live in Montana. And I will marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and she will cook them for me.”

–anjan9 (originally said by the Russian boat XO in Tom Clancy’s ‘The Hunt for Red October’)

“The “minutemen” (or are you thinking of the Freemen?) weren’t supported by the Montana state government or any allied state governments. Totally different situation. This would be like 1860/61 where people would be running back and forth choosing sides. Go read some history. There were loads of people who’s families were torn apart by differences in opinion on allegiance to their state or to the imperial federal government. Lots of people from the north moved to the south specifically to join the confederate army, and vice versa.

If state governments are involved, the thing could very easily get very ugly very quickly. Montana just needs to hope some states will jump in on their side.

Edited to add: By the way… I wonder how many nukes Montana has? Just wondering.

I’m sick of the waffling pussy-ass politicians in most states. It’s about time somebody _somewhere_ had the guts to call a spade a spade.

Those who think that’s “crackpot” can just go on letting the shit go on in their own state and slowly become “subjects” instead of citizens. Too bad some people think standing up for what’s right is “stoopid”.”


“Maybe Wyoming could secede as well? President Cheney!”

–steve in Washington

What do the individual state constitutions guarantee their citizens concerning gun rights?

For Gun Rights in the 50 states, plus 30 more comments from gun owners, read rest of story:

Montana to Secede? 35 Comments from Gun Owners 


Montana to Secede? 35 Comments from Gun Owners 

Mondoreb blogs at Death By 1000 Papercuts. Interested readers can e-mail him at
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