Wonderful program. Can we hear it again? Where?

There appears to be an issue with Blog Talk Radio but Simon is trying to find out what is going on. Hopefully he will have the recording up soon.

Thanks,

Jan Barrett

why isn’t this article in “crime” as is typical?
hmmmmmmmmm

Thank You Jan. Will check back in a bit, hope your feeling better! Hugs sent your way!

The recording is fixed now for those of you that want to hear it.

Thanks everyone,

Jan Barrett

Well, then who is Tommy referring to on the call with his nanny when he tells Grama Flo “Go get his f***** punk a** and put him in jail” and when he says ““Don’t let him know guys, for real, ‘cause his a** is out to run”. 😕

Who is ‘Peanut’, that Lindsay refused to take money from, does anyone know?

Kellie: I think “Peanut” may be Lisa’s nickname, Tommy’s mom. Can anyone verify that?

april said,in May 16th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Hank sr said that cruisin susan not tommy.
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Listen to the Nancy Grace show videos. The first comment by Tommy is in the first 30 seconds of the Tommy Croslin: Nancy 5/14/10 Part 1 video posted by Sierra1947 on youtube and the second one is on the Tommy Croslin: Nancy 5/14/10 Part 3 video. Check them out.

Thank you, Penny. Got my Croslin bunch mixed up!

Is Joe’s mother’s name Tina? Could it be not clear on tape and it just sounds like Peanut?

JUST BEIN PLAYFUL JAN.. BUT IT DOES TO ME..LOL 😉

Those N/G videos are very interesting CruisinSusan……..TYVM!

CathyJo63 said,in May 16th, 2010 at 8:01 pm Those N/G videos are very interesting CruisinSusan……..TYVM!
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🙂 CathyJo. Sometimes the transcripts aren’t correct so that’s why I posted the youtube videos. I didn’t post the link to the youtube site because my posts seem get lost in cyberland when I try to post urls.

Enjoyed the show Simon, I like listening to Peter Hyatt, he’s a very astute guy in MHO. I could listen to his take on things all day. Anyway he thinks something will be coming to fruition soon. I hope he’s right but if not it was at least comforting to hear it said.

I really think the release of that tape is purposeful by Joe Werter; it all coincides with the timing of the pre-trials, Ronald’s plea bargaining, and probably taking enough time to gather the evidence carefully and sort it out with a fine tooth comb.
If they aren’t careful, whoever does end up going to trial for Haleigh’s murder could get off with a TECHNICALITY; we certainly don’t want that happening here. (plus appeals)

We know the Prosecution and these Defense Attorneys are working together behind closed doors. (This case seems to be that type.) It’s not like the Casey Anthony case; this case involves so many people and will undoubtedly have some many plea deals, that it would be feasible. jmo

omg? a movie,are you serious,really??

another thing i think is tthe person trying to see the Tommy tapes,assuming its true……should be charged as an accomplice or obstruction of JUSTICE!!!

A movie should be done on how people get themselves involved in missing children’s cases to make money off it.

WinterRose said,in May 16th, 2010 at 8:28 pm A movie should be done on how people get themselves involved in missing children’s cases to make money off it.
Truer words were never spoken…..Amen Sista!

WinterRose said,in May 16th, 2010 at 8:23 pm I was just told Wayanne is signed on as screenwriter?Is this true,anyone?She was there a minute,what does she know?The only thing she can do is pose for a camera.Pffttt!!!

I second that pfftt,just wait……a doll will be next?

CathyJo63 said,in May 16th, 2010 at 8:21 pm Gotcha Cruisin Susin,good point! lol i am listening to the wbg video now,He said Misty was using roxies and cocaine with him ,
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Is that the same one where he talks about people thinking he’s working with the cops because he beat some of his charges? If it is, did you also hear him say that Misty’s parents are riding around trying to find out where he lives and they’re making death threats? 😯

There is no closure for Haleigh here yet! A movie OMG! Crazy! Poor Haleigh, I feel so sorry for her.

I dunno if its the one,specifically..i’ll have to relisten….I just watched the 1st bit of it where he says he did drugs with her and she was supposed to call him back?
then my eye caught the one i posted of items of interest and well,I was more interested in it than finishing,lol

A promise on a balloon to HaLeigh,what was the promise?To make money off her disappearance?GMAB

Cruisin Susan: Tommy is referring to Joe. He calls him many “nice” words!! I really don’t agree with the ones who speculate that GH put words in Tommy’s mouth….when Tommy said “but” that could have meant so many different things. If we listen to that audio, it clearly shows that Tommy is releaved and is just finally “spilling his guts” so to speak.jmo

Why do we never hear or see Rons sister? i mean besides the fact we can’t fit her hair on this page?
this is the only thing i have seen her in!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9MLiODzVxA&feature=related

I still am wondering what everyone’s opinion is about why NayNay’s name was mentioned and seemed to be an important thing for Tommy to have to be aware of.
Also, I am still curious and sceptical of the gH part where she stops and fumbles over that she did talk to Misty that morning, sounded like she was taking cues from Joe’s mom.

ty Cruisin Susan,ahaaaaa

ronfan said,in May 16th, 2010 at 8:41 pm Cruisin Susan: Tommy is referring to Joe….
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That’s my impression, too. I also noticed a difference in the tone and urgency in the way Tommy spoke with Grama Flo on the latest call. It was so different from all the other calls that have been released.

I know I’m not well like here, but I really do value everyone’s answers. I have consistenly posted about how great all of you are. I do get on my podium and get opinionated too, but I do get carried away w/my sarcasm. My opinions of Joe are harsh, but Can’t Help It, when I see him I get the cooties!!!!
Consequently, I know and apologize also, because when I post about him, I am just plain mean. Sorry again everyone. Don’t black ball me guys.

Please tell me the movie deal is just a rumor. That’s disgusting considering there is no resolution to this case as of yet. And to make money off this child’s case is wrong on all levels. If the mother’s side is responsible, I would have to know their reason for doing it and I see no other reason besides monetary. I am disgusted to say the least. Shame on the person who is willing to make money off this poor child and the sad circumstances that might have befallen her!

Heck,if it is the family wanting a movie to be made then i say they all move into cindy and georges house and split the mortgage so they’ll all be happy!

robin said,in May 16th, 2010 at 8:48 pm Please tell me the movie deal is just a rumor.
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Hi robin. Go to Wayanne’s Facebook and read the long entry by clicking on (See More). Here’s part of her entry on Facebook:

Wayanne Kruger Update: May 16, 2010
Production company pays first installment check for Screen Writer to begins the script for cable channel Premier Movie on the Haleigh Case. Based on interviews, transcripts, police reports, public information……

and we have all been mean sometime,how can ya not when every detail keeps changing!

Cruisin’ Susan said,in May 16th, 2010 at 8:52 pm robin said,in May 16th, 2010 at 8:48 pm Please tell me the movie deal is just a rumor.
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Hi robin. Go to Wayanne’s Facebook and read the long entry by clicking on (See More). Here’s part of her entry on Facebook:

Wayanne Kruger Update: May 16, 2010
Production company pays first installment check for Screen Writer to begins the script for cable channel Premier Movie on the Haleigh Case. Based on interviews, transcripts, police reports, public information……

OMG THEM DIRTY DOGS!!!!!!!!!!

A movie based on lies……………..now theres a new one!!! grrrrrr not based on truth?

cruisin susan I have found two facebook pages, but it appears neither are the right one

thats all it does,what about when JR grows up and goes back to search all this stuff!

No,where is that one OJ??

homespain said,in May 16th, 2010 at 8:58 pm cruisin susan I have found two facebook pages, but it appears neither are the right one
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okay, I’ll post the link in my next post and keep my fingers crossed it comes through, lol.

homespain said,in May 16th, 2010 at 8:58 pm cruisin susan I have found two facebook pages, but it appears neither are the right one
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Take out the spaces

h t t p: // w w w. facebook .com/ profile.php?id=100000819684247&v=wall

copy that, paste in the address bar after www. close the spaces and refresh

Ronfan,

I like you. I dont care that we disagree. If you say it with conviction and back it up without a cut and paste job, what’s not to like.

Plus, I can tell ron has you in his powerful, yet misguided spell. Like a david koresh, or the fonz.:)

No way. I can’t understand a movie making based on lies even if the truth were out. It’s not fair to Haleigh.

Cruisin susan not clear on the id= ….etc. tx anyways

Yes i did OJ and my connection,lol
had to reboot

Okay, it’s not working so just search for:

Wayanne Kruger (Rae Elisabeth Klein)

The image on her facebook has her pointing while standing in front of the American flag. I sure hope that helps homespain.

LoL Jaba,Koresh or Fonz.rofl

ahaaaaaaaa,it Werked,lol

mind blowing breaking news?? wowwwww reckon thats related to a bombshell? lol

maryd said,in May 16th, 2010 at 9:24 pm Ronfan,

I like hearing from Ronfan too. This case has so many open ends to it that anything could be a possibility. If Ronald was not directly involved in his daughters possible death, than his lifestyle seems to have played a big role in it. In any event he is paying dearly for his choices, losing a daughter now a son and long term prison time. Not a good place to be. Hopefully, others will learn from this awful story and become better parents, and if necessary get themselves into drug rehab. JMO

Thats exactly right,If it DOES turn out ron did anything then how would we know he didn’t set misty up for it,too many possibilities,and i aint saying thats true but being fair..lol

Thats exactly right,If it DOES turn out ron did anything then how would we know he didn’t set misty up for it,too many possibilities,and i aint saying thats true but being fair..lol

meant to add,even OJ’s theory misty was set up,sorry,lol

Cathyj,

I’ll be darned if I know at this point who is guilty and what their guilty of. Wheeling & dealing and finger pointing. There is nobody really trustworthy in this bunch. But don’t tell ronfan or OJ. Shhhhhhhh

I’ll take that secret to my grave Mary!
I don’t see one of them i’d trust to the bathroom and back!

homespain said,in May 16th, 2010 at 9:34 pm Thanks for all your efforts Crusin Susan. Maybe I’m tired…., what does the Levi Page radio show have to do with Wayanne kruger? Is she on the show talking about screenwriting for the movie?
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No, Wayanne isn’t on the Levi show (I’m listening right now). Wayanne was the victim’s advocate that assisted Crystal early on before she was sent packing when Kim Picazio came on scene. But, it’s Wayanne who has the information on her facebook about the movie deal.

Hopefully someone else can post the link that knows what the heck they’re doing. 🙂

someone asked how TN got her pic so fast,someone replied.a printer in her truck,lol

brb phone dtr

Jaba: How did you know????? Yes, I admit, I am a “Ronette”!!!
Seriously, though, I remember hearing that 911 call on good ole Mizz Nancee the first time it aired. I follow the Caylee case, and on the show that night, all of a sudden, she really did have a “Breaking News” story, and it was the Haleigh case…when I heard Ron’s desperate voice, and hearing his words, and saying what he did, as if he didn’t care who heard him, like he felt NO NEED TO IMPRESS ANYONE, it seemed he was so desperate, enough to even incriminate himself right then and there on that 911 call…I said good!!! Its about dang time someone calls in a 911 and just screams and let’s it all out! I felt instantly from his voice that he knew who took his daughter and he was sending a DIRECT MESSAGE TO THAT MESSAGE. A direct threat to the scumbag who took his heart. I have always said that this case was never meant to blow up like it did. I don’t even think Ron knew it would make media attention, and that he assumed or betted on the fact that it was Joe and that his threats would scare Joe into bringing Haleigh back, that Joe was holding Haleigh to use as a revenge tactic against Ron. I don’t think Ron ever thought Haleigh was actually dead. You can tell from his comments following that first day. He would always be very careful to include “whoever” “whether it’s one, two people”, etc…just so specific it made me feel that Ronald was hinting the whole time that HE KNEW WHO TOOK HIS DAUGHTER.
It seems like no matter what kind of life Ron had, no matter what past, he was determined to be a good Daddy no matter what. I don’t believe all the here-say about pills lying around, etc…and people always at his house…I bet Ron would kick some a** if anyone came over in front of his kids in any uncompromising way.
He seems like the type who would do what he wanted on “his own time” but definitely not around his children.

JABA: Sorry about the long post. You know I get carried away when I talk about my boy.

How do I delete that comment above… was writing on a different tab and it crossed over. spooky. Sorry

LoL Homespain,i thought wth? I am a cherrypicker myself,lol

WinterRose said,in May 16th, 2010 at 8:28 pm A movie should be done on how people get themselves involved in missing children’s cases to make money off it.
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Yes, and maybe one day a study/book will be released for college courses re the 1st Amendment and justice in America. I can just see it: “Bombshell: The Haleigh Cummings case and How tabloid journalism, incompetent mainstream reporters, and internet blogging,….” Seriously.

Did what? That is the question.

With plenty of examples from blogs on the Haleigh case of course.

JMO

tx?

Diane Fanning wrote a book about Caylee Anthony, gosh I think it was aprox one year ago…… and I think the title was “Mommy’s Little Girl”…. A lot of people make money from tragedy, and like Ms. Fanning have no tie genetically or socially to the victim or the victim’s family….. IMHO just another pitiful individual trying to make a dollar from the tragic loss of a child.

So anyone can write a book or sell a playwright about any murder, that of a child or an adult.. trial or not….conviction or not… what is perhaps more sad is the public buying whatever that person is selling.

LoL RonFan,I’d say he did about cam over,lol
afraid you’d ask for a commisary visit,rofl

There you go Alethea. You said it!

Cathy Jo, yea 62 grade! It’s a lovely one. You a collector too?

Course i never met him,didn’t care too!

Coppers only,Just cherrypick,got into it 3 yrs ago and love it!

actually they are congigal visits……anyone know the right word,i can’t seem to recall it,lol

oh,ok.kinda thought so but wasn’t sure Homespain!lol

I was watchings vids earlier and everyone of em’ he’s walking that way! lol like his knees are wooden or sommin,lol

nite all

Gnite Alethea!

Ron needs bolitas cream, pobrecito.

I knew it, after OJ’s last post… OJ is actually JO

omg OJ,Did she rob a bank fur ye?

OJ Said,
I dated a sister of a manson clan member..those were the days.

Those were the days that made you lose your mind,no wonder you’re a big ole pain,lmbo! j/k

took me out on a dang boat and couldn’t swim,OMG!

A trial date for Ronald Cummings remains scheduled for July 19.

Is this a new tat? Haleigh’s name and an angel. http://www.myspace.com/chelsea_croslin

Manson didn’t have a brother

the lady I dated and her mom, both biker chicks went to the spann ranch to drag her brother away (also a biker) because they got wind of a raid..they got him out just before the raid went down.

omg! shewwwww close!!

I had the conjugal visits, there ok..private lil cabin, very tiny, there was two in a fenced off area with a lil playground if the couples had kids. I got some pot in, it was great to visit and touch.

Cruisin’ Susan said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

homespain said,in May 16th, 2010 at 9:34 pm Thanks for all your efforts Crusin Susan. Maybe I’m tired…., what does the Levi Page radio show have to do with Wayanne kruger? Is she on the show talking about screenwriting for the movie?
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No, Wayanne isn’t on the Levi show (I’m listening right now). Wayanne was the victim’s advocate that assisted Crystal early on before she was sent packing when Kim Picazio came on scene. But, it’s Wayanne who has the information on her facebook about the movie deal.

Hopefully someone else can post the link that knows what the heck they’re doing. 🙂
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Here you go,it’s a screenshot of her latest posting on FB

http://i41.tinypic.com/2z5r4fp.jpg

I’d say it was Oj!

Ron and Misty are innocent of harming Haliegh or for her dissappearance. Misty is guilty of child endangerment. Ron is guilty of not killing the person he knows who did this!!!!

Truth is in the lie:

911: “OK…alright…You said your back door was wide open?”

Misty Croslin: “yes- it was bricked- there was a brick on the floor…when I was asleep it was not like that.”

Question: How does Misty know it was not like that when she was asleep?
Answer: 1. Because it was placed there while she was awake. OR 2. She talks like a 17y/o that dropped out in 6th grade.

I think she either 1. put it there herself to cover her ass with Ron for not knowing what happened that night, so pretended there was a break in. OR 2. She really did wake up and it was propped open like that.

Either way, she is innocent of harming haliegh and so is ron.
Just my thoughts.

Al Springer was a member of the motorcycle gang called the Straight Satans who had been involved with the Manson Family off and on- any relation to him?

Kellie in Australia said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 6:58 pm

Who is ‘Peanut’, that Lindsay refused to take money from, does anyone know?
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Peanut is Joe’s mother. If you listen to the unedited phone call tape you can hear them talk about the money Lindsy refused was from Hank/Lisa.

sickening, huh?

Then Marie posted after Wayanne yesterday acting all disgusted..I re read Kim Picazio’s bar complaint rebuttal again last night and Marie just disgusted me all over again.

homespain said,in May 16th, 2010 at 10:48 pm Al Springer was a member of the motorcycle gang called the Straight Satans who had been involved with the Manson Family off and on- any relation to him?
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not that I know of…but she did introduce me to movie producer who made biker flicks in the 60s..he was connected with the bikers at the ranch.

Kristina Renee Prevatt (aka “Nay-Nay”)

Friend of Amber Brooks, also a friend of Misty, is called “Nay-Nay”. Has said that Ron doesn’t like her, that Ron would get mad when/if Haleigh told him that “Nay-Nay” had come to their home. Nay-Nay has a nine-month-old daughter named Destiny, who is in the custody of the father, Donovan Spells, 47

The week before Haleigh went missing, reportedly Ron and Misty got into an argument, and Misty went over to her brother’s home. She reportedly called Nay-Nay to come get her. Nay-Nay reportedly picked her up from her brother’s home and they went cruising around the area. Nay-Nay claims to have then introduced Misty to a local man, named Greg Page, aka “White Boy Greg”. That meeting reportedly resulted in a couple of days of sex and drug use for Misty and Greg, and perhaps others including Nay-Nay, on the weekend before Haleigh went missing. That weekend is also referred to as Misty’s “three-day bender”.

she turns my guts faster than anything!

nay nay is kind of a cute nicknmae..
whats your cathy?

I’m starting to feel sorry for LE trying to deal with these low life’s while they’re trying to solve a missing child case. I think I might want to quit or retire from this case because of so much interference. Now someone else wants to gain fame and financial gain from a missing child. She said she was there to help give support to the family and find their child. Where does the GREED end? Tell me what good person profits off a missing child and proclaims to be concerned about the missing child? It seems to happen with these vultures over and over again. I will not watch any movie she’s connected with concerning HaLeigh!!!!!! I hope if the network that promotes this movie loses viewers and the so called adviser loses her reputation as a DO GOODER. How dare anyone do this to children who have been endangered. We’re suppose to be their protectors not profit from their demise.

the only ones i ever had were toothpick with teeth and cashis clay!

That makes 2 of us Judith!

OJ – Right after the Tate-LaBianca murders, word was they killed 5 more people. There’s allot of unsolved murders attributed to them.

Your friends are very lucky they didn’t get caught up with the arrests related to the killings.

Supposedly Manson’s real dad was Col.Scott. Years later Col. Scott’s brother was murdered. It was suspected at that time that Manson killed him. But were unable to prove it at the time. That would be an interesting cold case to revisit if they kept any forensics on the case.

Next thing you know we’ll have jefferey dahlmers personal chef on the ‘show’ here. 🙂

it is funny to me that ppl will pay thousands for a murederers autograph…etc……I don’t get it!
wth cares?

homespain: Sorry, I just came back to computer; I saw ur post at 9:38!! I must have gotten caught in the cross-posting syndrome! By the time I finished my way too long post (novel) I missed it; Sorry again, but I very much appreciate your curiousity.
See my 9:50 post to Jaba; that’s how I got so intrigued by Ronald. It’s just a gut feeling I got when I heard the 911 call; then when I saw him on TV, I had the same feeling. Just a gut reaction, first impression. When I heard his voice on that 911 call, I cried so hard. All I could say was, now there’s a man who is pleading, scared, and desperately heartbroken. His voice had that passion that only comes with the love we have for our own children. Everytime I saw him, I saw such a heartbroken, broken spirited man; but he never stopped his insistence about media concentrating on Haleigh….my favorite thing about him is that he isn’t a man who is afraid to show all of his emotions. He doesn’t back down. It’s about time parent’s of missing children screamed at the top of their lungs for justice, and to hell with what anyone thinks!!! I hope Ron does what he swore he will do one day, and we all know what that is.
Whoever did it, (I think Joe), I hope he gets right there in that same prison, in GP, and then LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!!
You know what they say: Karma is a bit**!!
Whatever you do, it comes right back to bite you in the arse, and Joe better watch out, cuz it’s gonna be Ron’s fist!!! LOL
Okay, I’ll spare everyone from my Ron-love for the night. Goodnight all.

CathyJo63 said,in May 16th, 2010 at 11:13 pm it is funny to me that ppl will pay thousands for a murederers autograph…etc……I don’t get it!
wth cares?
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haven’t seen that on ebay

I hope not OJ,LOL But i love documentaries and saw a couple where ppl have paid big bux for JWG ‘s autograph,and others…….I am shocked they’re not on ebay…..everything else is!

The wildest ones of the day. I’m not the only one shaking my head and laughing. 🙂

Don’t worry about it, there is no proof and none will even be offered.

oh,LoL I thought you meant proof of a movie….etc….

CathyJo63 said,in May 16th, 2010 at 11:20 pm I hope not OJ,LOL But i love documentaries and saw a couple where ppl have paid big bux for JWG ’s autograph,and others…….I am shocked they’re not on ebay…..everything else is!
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I like documentaries, carl jung is good, Joseph Campbell on myths is interesting.

i just don’t see the little guy Jo being that bad arsed,ya know? and what gun did he hold on them,thought the guns were gone from rons house,or hidden rather? and if he had his own gun,why did they wanna barrow one?

I am appalled about this movie. And the Griffis/Sheffields wonder why people think they may be to blame? It is things like this that show their poor taste. The LAST thing I would be thinking about when my beautiful daughter is missing and presumed dead is MAKING A MOVIE. I am very suspicious about what they hope to gain from this and frankly very suspicious of them at the moment. LE has put the Cummings/Croslins under the microscope. I think its high time they put the Sheffields/Griffis under the same umbrella of suspicion. I believe ANYONE who profits off a missing/murdered child should be held under intense scrutiny. I bet if NG gets wind of this, she will be spitting fire for sure. AH would be burnt beyond recognition with the flames of NG’s wrath for Crystal since she has always defended Ron. JMO

Bingo Robin,My God do they not know Sindy and G/a?

lol Jaba

also,they have a hidden room under their house,don’t they?

Jaba–Are you saying the movie rumor is just that, a rumor? I hope so because it would show poor taste if ANY of the families are contemplating this when it’s not known what happened to Haleigh. I am just not surprised at anything at this juncture. I guess just the mention of this makes my blood boil, and I might have jumped the gun in believing it. JMO

Robin,

No not the movie.

The only people, from what I read, that even resembled LE in the most loose sense of the word were a PI cobra and a dog handler. And the dog handler had some very odd observations of the whole thing.

I would like to hear cobra’s version of the fake search..

he was involved in that, the fs..also he was charged and plead guilty to a crime involving this case, so go figure.

They go with things they have actual audio or video or live interview first of course.

But you know they search out things to corroborate what they learn on their own. They’ve also got a lot of time and heartache, like others do, in this case so they are keeping up.

I’m surprised we haven’t seen peter Hyatt on there yet.

Maybe nancy doesn’t buy into it or it would take too long for Peter to set up the premise. Nancy has to boom, boom, boom things quickly.

OJ–I would also like to hear Cobra’s version of events concerning the fake search too. But who can you really trust in this case to give you a true accounting of what happened. I don’t think (now) that I could trust anyone from the Sheffield/Griffis side to be truthful. I think most of them seen dollar signs since day one and marketed HaLeigh and this tragedy to make a profit. And as long as LE focuses on Croslins/Cummings these people can do anything they want undetected. Its sad and tragic and frankly it pisses me off! Sorry about the rant..Now I know why you defend Misty so passionately!

robin and maryd, let’s remember, though, that Ron and Misty and Crystal and Marie and Marty and and and… they were all children once, too, children who had no chance in their own lives, either.

OJ, I do appreciate your passionate defense of Misty. She is guilty of a few things but good God, she was only 17-years-old when this all happened, and think about what she had to form or attitudes and values about life. I’m actually impressed that she has any tenderness left at all.

Everytime I scroll down to new threads I see Cobras name and he’s on the show here so I bet jan and simon trust him.

There is always 3 sides to a story. 🙂

kate, I agree with you but not sure what that had to do with my previous comments.

have you guys heard all the cobra tapes concerning the evidence and fake search.etc.I am sure you probably have but you said you’d like to hear his side?

maryd, sorry I misunderstood. My comment was based on robin’s comment in which she says that “none of them should have to pay for the sins of their parents.” So I thought the two of you had made comments about that.

Ronfan is at her altar of the ‘great bow legged one’.:)

jaba said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 12:41 am

Ronfan is at her altar of the ‘great bow legged one’.:)

LMAO!!!

Cj, no I haven’t but will search them out now that I know they are out there.

jaba said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 12:41 am

Ronfan is at her altar of the ‘great bow legged one’.:)

Just curious do you know where OJ is? LMAO in advance!

jaba said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 12:36 am

Everytime I scroll down to new threads I see Cobras name and he’s on the show here so I bet jan and simon trust him.
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They do think highly of him it seems jaba. Not me. I think he’s full of balogna.

omg i just thought of something,
ok,what if the Sheffields did take her and hide her and after everyones sentenced and in prison they say someone just dropped her off somewhere or some excuse and they already have JR so ron can’t have custody of either in jail????

I saw a pic of cs sticking her tongue out saying it was her message to ron!
kids stick their tongue out when they pull something off or win,lol?

kate..the cummings family say she was great with kids. even the bio mom says they loved misty.

Kate said,in May 17th, 2010 at 12:47 am CathyJo63, I have absolutely no doubt that the PCSO waited until Misty turned 18 to work the drug sting.

And I was CathySue63 back in ‘71 when I was in second grade ;)!
LoL SMALL WORLD EH?

CathyJo, BINGO!!!! That is absolutely what I think is going to happen. After Ronald and Misty and heck, why not Tommy, too, even though he doesn’t have much to do with anything HaLeigh-wise, after they are sentenced to life for trafficking oxy’s, HaLeigh will be dropped off at a MacDonald’s with a little sign around her neck. When she is asked where she has been she will say, “With this really nice family in a house in the country…” And Ron will be in jail and Crystal won’t have to pass a drug test to get custody of her.

CathyJo63 said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 12:48 am

omg i just thought of something,
ok,what if the Sheffields did take her and hide her and after everyones sentenced and in prison they say someone just dropped her off somewhere or some excuse and they already have JR so ron can’t have custody of either in jail????
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Not to mention getting a movie deal and making mega bucks. What a plan! Don’t think it happened that way though unless Misty was in on it too, and maybe Tommy.

OJ’s glove, I totally think that Misty is great with kids. I choke up when I hear the jail tape in which Misty asks her mom if maybe they can call her when they are at HaLeigh’s vigil. And then later, when Lisa tells Misty about Ron’s letter to HaLeigh, the way Misty says, “Ohhh,” meaning, “that’s so precious, so sweet.” No way Misty is faking that for the camera’s. She’s got a good heart.

Kate–I never thought about the drug sting angle (waiting until Misty turned 18) and I believe you are right! I always wondered about the timing of the sting. Now it makes perfect sense now that mentioned that!

CathyJo, I just wish Jr could live with them, too. Gotta’ got to bed, now. Sweet dreams to you, CathyJo, from CathySue.

gnite Kate! sweet dreams!

irish1 said,in May 17th, 2010 at 12:28 am I recall in the days after Haleighs abduction seeing Ron and Misty living in a tent city near the home. CNN interviewed Ms Nevins and she said they just could not bear to be in the MH cause it was the place where she was stolen. I thought of all the parents over the years who”s children were stolen and they all felt the need to stay in the home and keep the same number for at least some years. I thought of myself who’s 12yr old son died suddenly in his room, I could not bear to stay in that home any longer, it took 4yrs to finally move,I needed to leave because the memory of his death over shadowed the memories of his life. Ron couldnt sleep where his daughter was murdered, not stolen from, but murdered.
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EXACTLY!!!

So sorry for your loss:(

I also have lost one and we still have the room the way it was when she passed, I can’t touch it now, but maybe one day I will be able to go in there.

vaquera said,in May 16th, 2010 at 10:56 pm sickening, huh?

Then Marie posted after Wayanne yesterday acting all disgusted..I re read Kim Picazio’s bar complaint rebuttal again last night and Marie just disgusted me all over again.
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Yep, sickening. But not at all surprising. I’ve expected that side of the family to do this sort of stuff. One of the many reasons why I still remain suspicious of that side of the family.

The same message goes to you Iris,hI am sorry for your loss too!!!!
So sorry,I can’t imagine!!!

Oh Gosh Mary,i know i have too!
The Difference is like day/night!

Yes Oj,and i still wonder about the ky statement,if it really pertains to dog fighting or not?

You have a good way of looking at it!
Blessed for the time you did have……just precious!!
Death leaves a heartache no one can heal,
Love leaves a memory no one can steal!

Just one,I agree….no child should have to be in that situation!

Haven’t read or seen anything on the ex cop except for as a story offered up.

Just like the alien theory, anything is possible.

Don’t know why tommy is saying he was involved if the kid wasn’t dead. That’s still a mystery to me, if she is actually alive.

So, I am to think they shuffled a kid to another, forever, instead of trying to get the kid back for the natural mother who was up against ron, who dcf wasn’t happy with. Wow, how gracious are those people? What a sacrifice. To take a child from his brother, father and mother, and grandparents, to give to someone else who experienced loss. I can’t imagine someone with a loss like that eveb accepting a child under those circumstances. Maybe there is one out there.

CathyJo63 said,in May 17th, 2010 at 1:17 am Yes Oj,and i still wonder about the ky statement,if it really pertains to dog fighting or not?
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do you mean K9? whos ky?

Goodnight all,

May Haleighs light shine the truth on this case.

kentucky,not a canine,dogs as in ya know like Micheal vik,the dog fighter??

I’d love to see her stroll home with longer hair, a little taller, a little more mature and smiling, nothing would bring me greater joy for Haleigh and the rest of them for that too happen.

But why is a guy who’s facing just a few years of his life for some smaller crimes, pony up a story like his lawyer offered? How is that going to help tommy? Doesn’t make sense to me.

just one,i never thought what these ppl have done already makes any sense,lol

right Jaba,its a farrrrrrr stretch,but as i said,not impossible when everybodys stoned all the time,ya know!

ky is a state,rofl

no it don’t make sence but ya never know!

Even if there was abuse beyond belief. Couldn’t the family have had a PI plat a camera or a microphone in the trailer to get evidence on ron without stealing the kid and shuffling her off? The person gaining the child, who would now be paying for food, clothes, toys and medicine for a very rare illness, could have taken a fraction of that money and helped the ‘other side’ family members get Haleigh into their custody, little JR too.

Wild speculation is what that theory is, imo, much like some others I can say are plausible, but probably not true.

now you can laff,lol

nah that was stupid,lol i see it clearer now,lol scratch!!!!lol

Those folks would have to be aware that ronnie would at least have to make a police reprot and I doubt anyone in florida hasn’t heard the whole Caylee Anthony case and that missing kids get some primetime coverage until they are found one way or another.

That theory is the riskiest bet of what I’ve heard. But, anything is possible, anything is not reasonable though.

Someone must have the ex cop pegged by now, by name, no? I wonder what the genesis of that theory comes from, a movie, or a statement of one in these families.

they wanted their place searched too,why? if they knew nothing happened on their place,why ask them too search!

so they’d know when they were gonna be or after its searched make a diff plan……who knows!

Good points cj.

If I didn’t have a car or a dime in my pocket, I would have kncoked on neighbors door until one of them gave me a ride out there. Someone would have.

Still can’t figure that search. Weird stuff and the wo guys named regan are sketchy at best.

May cs was really high when the call came in and wanted to come down, but 8 hours?

tom: i know one time you told me you had 19 hundred, and the next time i know you got 700.

lindsy: yeah within weeks, weeks, tom. i had… yeah, um… tommy i’m not spending…

tom: you just need to slow down.

(7 seconds silence)

tom: you alright?

lindsy: no, i’m not!

tom: well chill out. you ain’t got no money, you fixing to go broke?

Is he a father of children? is he speaking to his wife? What does this actually mean, to become “fixing to go broke”?? While he sits behind bars, has he made any provisions for the safety of his wife and children?

lindsy: yeah, i’m fixing to go broke! your dad owes me 420 dollars, huh?

Lindsay repeats back Tommy’s own words. While speaking of going broke, and having listen to his demand to take money from the family and give it to him, she then introduces the subject of his father. It is associated with money. The timing of this statement suggests that there have been issues of money between the mother/care and Tommy’s father.

tom: well, he don’t owe you all that. you make tim pay the money he owes ya,let tim get paid
from my dad.

lindsy: that was the agreement. that was the agreement.

This shows clearly that the issue is not new; but ongoing. Misty has stated that her parents are long term addicts and in the habit of addicts, they lie, steal, and sell for drugs. They sell any and every thing. I once spoke with a woman who, in NYC, sold her two daughters, 5 and 7, on the RR, for cigarette money. The deeper and longer the addiction, the less human becomes the person until there is no dignity left anywhere. For the father, we learn from the Tommy Tapes that the car that Leonard Padilla gave him, was reported “stolen” when, in fact, it was likely traded for a small amount of drugs. Lindsay knows this game and knew that Tommy would chose his own father over his wife and kids. This was referenced on Simon Barrett’s program by TJ Hart and Denny, as they both talked about the Croslin “family” and where the true loyalties lie.

tom: well, when you don’t get paid don’t cry to me.

But putting yourself at a murder scene with no proof is not useful to LE.

It may be a ‘hail mary pass’ attempt that will fall incomplete or may backfire on him. If they can place tommy there at all with any evidence that could implicate tommy by even conjecture on part of a jury, tommy is screwed.

If a murder is commited and you were the only one with proof that you were there, kind of sinks your battleship, doesn’t it?

jaba said,in May 17th, 2010 at 1:50 am Good points cj.

If I didn’t have a car or a dime in my pocket, I would have kncoked on neighbors door until one of them gave me a ride out there. Someone would have.

you and me! I would knock on a neighbors door at 3 am for that purpose,lol

CathyJo63 said,in May 17th, 2010 at 1:55 am those show how much he cares,Lindsey would pull his time!!!! silly!
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my woman would have took the rap for me..

misty has lied, why? All we need is an answer from here on that.

And if the sherrifs department didn’t search the river, they’d be ripped for not doing so.

Still can’t see how tommy or his lawyer figure this ‘stunt’ would help him on his sentence by saying he was there.

The sherrifs kid and misty and tommy and ronnie will all be guilty of the same thing. How does that matter in the grand scheme of things.

I haven’t hear LE or any source with backed up cred offer up a more ‘barney fife’ explantion of what occure like alien abduction or replacing missing children, but, heck, what do I know. Nothing really.:)

oH jABA,YEA.ITS A MESS!!!!!

ROFL,IN YOUR WORLD MAYBE oj!!!!

if he was man of the house he wouldn’t be where he is now,lol

lindsey has shocked me? she manipulative and immature as he77!

right!!!! Jaba…….exactly!
but i can’t wait to hear something good!well it won’t be good regardless because Haleighs not been found but you know what i mean!

ROFL@ OJ………howd you land a wife?

OJ,i am gonna have a talk with your wife!

one day wiff me,oneeee day! and you’d be beggin for mommy! lol

you sound like jeff,my ex-fiance was married 4 times and he stillllllllllllll blames the women.rofl

i was married 25 yrs,since i was 15 till 2003 when my husband was murderedand he blamed me,yea right!

i do know what youre saying.lol
i was funnin’ but i still wanna teach her some things!

or a date for that matter,lol

lol you need to teach poor little misty how to do that,lol fast!

yea.lol 47….will be 48 new yrs day!

shotgun wedding,mom by 16! lol

i wish,i hated it OJ,my adopted mom always made me save 1 christmas gift till my bday!
sux! when you’re a yungin’

lol sux big time!

CS is a piece of work! I think she would do anything to spite Misty and get revenge on Ron. She was my first theory of the guilty party.(Of course I have thought up others since then). But they say you come back to your first thoughts and they are usually true.

Besides, we have no proof of a dead Haleigh, so maybe we need to assume she is alive till we find out differently!!???

I mentioned before on these posts about CS’s ‘flat affect’ and her non-response when they told her that the dogs had hit on the dumpster. She was more worried about people talking about her getting her hair done. The reporter even said to her ‘did you hear me!’ “I said the dogs hit on the dumpster, they may of found Haleigh”. The dumb bit** never responded.

She also has a record for making a false report on a guy (almost causing him a felony) because she wanted revenge. This is her m.o.
Plus she owed 12,000 in back child support.
She didn’t even have a picture of herself with those kids. Someone photoshopped her into one for the news. Sad, very sad. She was one angry person and it came out when Haleigh was first missing. All she could think about was getting custody of Jr. That’s because when Haleigh ‘mysteriously appears’, she will have them both and Ron will be in jail. Her family (esp. that Creepy flat affect mother of hers) are probably the driving force or Chad is. I think they have done everything they can to make sure Ron and Misty are framed.

The flat creepy could be the weed or pills they take, couldn’t it?

They self medicate when they don’t have severe pressure or a crisis, how do you think they medicate when there is a crisis? Jmo

ron was high as a kite several times in tv where he knew he was in the spotlight.

The medicated state is normal for them. They feel abnormal when they are sober.

Thanks for another interesting show, Simon and Jan. Do I have to mention how much Peter Hyatt adds to the conversations? He still fascinates me every week. I’m impressed with the two of you holding your own, too. Today’s show was especially powerful because there were fewer guests and you were all able to discuss your opinions in depth. You’re showing your smarts today! I did miss TJ’s input, though. All in all, it was a great show. Thanks so much.

He doesn’t correct her at any of her conclusions. What should we make of that?

Is that a story being fed between gma and mc and tc?

Myrtle – correct…Gramma should have kept her mouth SHUT FROM THE GET GO…she inserted the words for him and he followed suit. Like she was telling him what misty had said and he just agreed.

All I know is that I saw Misty on camera blaming cousin Joe shortly after Haleigh went missing so I highly doubt they were araid of him

Morning ca:

Didn’t gma hollers say misty called her first b efore tommy did? Speaking of the ‘confession’ call, that is.

JEAN…i agree..if she was afraid of him and joe took haleigh then 911 call to go find joe and land his butt in jail would have been the safest thing to do…NOT PUBLICLY ACCUSE HIM WHILE HE IS OUT A FREE MAN!!!

HOG WASH..MISTY IS NOT AFRAID OF ANYONE OR ANYTHING BUT THE TRUTH…

I wonder what the conversation was between misty and ron before the 911 call. I wonder if she mentioned joe then? Rons comment that he has better people to call on the 911 call is who? I wish they’d tell me.

jaba – about Ron having better people to call..did LE subpoena the house/cell records pre/post 911…they prob. did and likely know who he called IF ANYONE!

I have a feeling Ron boy called no one!

That Nannie Hollars tape just seems so staged
IMO. Something in the milk is spoiled. All
the crap with Lindsy being on the other line and Aunt Vicki relaying messages. I thought
Hollars said she came down hard on Tommy. My
Grandmother sure didn’t call me baby when she came down hard on me. She is wishy washy as to
who she thinks done it as I am. I think she should be taken with a grain of salt. She got
as mixed up as those grandchildren.

LeeLee is nickname for Lisa Croslin. Hank trys to wake her up for one of Misty’s calls and he
calls her that. Hollars refers to her as LeeLee twice on the Tommy’s infamous call.

Peanut is Joe Overstreet’s mom twice on.

Can anyone tell me how on earth if Ron C. is working for LE as informant…why on earth is he stitting in jail? It’s been my understanding that the informant is not arrested and charged as he help round the bust up.

SHOCKWAVE – I agree, but I also believe that the dufense is going to use her pics with caylee to show she was such a good mommy…but jesse grunds testimony will prove to the jury that CASEY CHANGED…became jealous of caylee and turned into someone he didn’t even know..
PEOPLE CHANGE..casey may have loved caylee when it was convenient for her..she never raised that child g and c did..so she posed for some cute photos once in while…doesn’t make her a good mom..but the dufense will use the prior pics. as support of just another lie…JURY WILL LISTEN UP WHEN JESSE TESTIFIES..he was the man who was told by liar casey he was the daddy and when it was proven he wasn’t he still wanted caylee as his daughter..CASEY DIDN’T LIKE THAT…and jesse was going to marry casey until SHE MADE NEW FRIENDS AND DIDN’T WANT TO BE A MOMMY ANYMORE..JESSE WILL BE A HUGE ASSET TO THE PROSECUTION.

It would be such a huge chance for LE to take for rons safety for him to be in genpop as an overall snitch for other dealers etc…he will help with the tommy/misty case and that’s it.

We see him in the video being the real ron. I’ve seen talk that ron wouldn’t be that stupid as to be busted in a uc sting, however, the drugs and money were worth the risk to him and the others.

People are genuinely confused about why the world has gone awry. It’s because people as a whole have put God out of their lives. It’s ‘I want to be a celebrity, famous, cool, or rich.’ Materials things have become more important than ethics. Keeping up with the Jones’ has become more important than talking to our children. America has become arrogant and lazy. These are bad combinations.

Well florida state statutes are what they are…if there was any entrapment possibilities I doubt they would be going forth with any of the trials..I could be wrong..but wouldn’t that be putting the cart before the horse. IMO if there was possibility it would be in the works and dealt with before wasting the courts time on the trials themselves.
What’s the difference between poSsession for sale or trafficing? Sounds like one in the same thing to me..but that’s me..NOT A DRUGGIE..

hope sykes found out real quick how the case laid out against her took a plea. Same thing ron is doing and tommy and misty will probably follow.

Selling drugs to others – certain amount. Trafficking – higher amount of substance.

Little miss innocent and her ‘pill in the wall gang’ are as good as sold, imo.

When I was listening to the last radio show about “what does Ron know where he can make a plea deal?” I was conjuring up this idea in my head about Crystal and Ron working together and stashing Haleigh somewhere. I hope to my core that is what has happened, but my brain is saying that is just wishful thinking on my part. More than likely Ron was too stoned to think rationally, thus his continuance to trust Misty, and thus his continuance to have a relationship with her for drug sake and for the sake of having a sexual relationship with her.

JenM said,in May 17th, 2010 at 2:36 am CS is a piece of work! I think she would do anything to spite Misty and get revenge on Ron. She was my first theory of the guilty party.(Of course I have thought up others since then). But they say you come back to your first thoughts and they are usually true.

Besides, we have no proof of a dead Haleigh, so maybe we need to assume she is alive till we find out differently!!???

I mentioned before on these posts about CS’s ‘flat affect’ and her non-response when they told her that the dogs had hit on the dumpster. She was more worried about people talking about her getting her hair done. The reporter even said to her ‘did you hear me!’ “I said the dogs hit on the dumpster, they may of found Haleigh”. The dumb bit** never responded.

She also has a record for making a false report on a guy (almost causing him a felony) because she wanted revenge. This is her m.o.
Plus she owed 12,000 in back child support.
She didn’t even have a picture of herself with those kids. Someone photoshopped her into one for the news. Sad, very sad. She was one angry person and it came out when Haleigh was first missing. All she could think about was getting custody of Jr. That’s because when Haleigh ‘mysteriously appears’, she will have them both and Ron will be in jail. Her family (esp. that Creepy flat affect mother of hers) are probably the driving force or Chad is. I think they have done everything they can to make sure Ron and Misty are framed.
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JenM,
I have been a pit bull with this theory since March 2009. In fact I was recently “exposed” by a poster here,LMAO.
IMO The actions of the Sheffield’s in the months before and after HaLeigh’s abduction is a indication of their frustration with the system that would not right the wrong in their opinion and can clearly show a motive. Remember Kim P. even stated that in this area many use DCF to get custody and not the judicial system.

CA,

Very simple. They wouldn’t. But I’m not telling you anything you don’t know.:)

Its about as likely as the ‘given to an ex-cop’ theory. It doesn’t make reasonable sense.

shockwave I totaly agree with your 9:30am post.
Shockwave if I remember correctly I believe it was in April 2009 that I had heard a rumor from out of Satsuma that Both parents( Ron and Crystal) hid Haleigh was a theory. I believe now they have moved away from that theory.

oj..grow up…

you know squat about me so why don’t you just stop the personal attacks OJ….would appreciate it…

Does anyone here this morning remember the track the dogs followed that morning?

Rons lawyer offering Rons testimony is just that and I dont see the PA even considering it. We should know soon but I highly doubt it.
He has nothing to offer in a case that is open and shut. This is a case with both parties on video why would the PA even consider causing doubt in the jury? The jury would wonder whats this guy doing? Whats in it for him? To me it would just cause more problem during a jury trial. jmo

Yes, I recall the scent of Haleigh through the woods. I put it in my theory above. But it could of also been where she was playing that day.

I hope she’s alive. I really do. But the red flags are too many for me to believe it.

I can buy the plausibility of your theory. It could have happened for all the reasons you mention. It won’t hurt my feelings one bit to be wrong in my thinking.

CS didn’t have custody versus ole ronnie boy, that tells you how much dcf and the courts thinks of her and her ability to mother.

I sure hope the rest of you are right about Haleigh,that thought is always with me .Like GGMS. show me the truth and then I might believe it. This is a tale that comes JS.(MS)him and Ron used to still the kids from each other .That part of it bothers me if the Sheffield’s took Haleigh how are any of them getting see her wouldn’t some be watching them.
I read Johnny S my space yesterday he enters little sayings of things of god always. I don’t no if he was religeous before. I thought with as much as he writes he might slip up if he did it.

I don’t think I wrote what I wrote above very well, and then people misunderstood me. I do NOT think Ron and Crystal worked together to hide Haleigh. I just simply get caught up in hoping that’s what happened, because I’d rather believe that Haleigh is alive than think about the real truth. I do wonder about what Ron knows that could possibly get him a 15 minimum sentence than a 40 year minimum sentence. We already know they were selling. They were caught on undercover video surveillance selling. So, that can’t be the information that gets Ron a lesser sentence. That’s a no-brainer. It can’t be that it’s because he left a pill hanging around or because Misty and him would give Haleigh pills to make her sleep. That would make him the reason she may be dead and it would tack on more years. I cannot imagine either that he knew Tommy, Timmy, Misty, or Joe did it, but then he still continued to sell drugs with them? So, what does he know?

If they where in it together IMO Ron didn’t profit from the deal at all!
Crystal and Chad are the ones everyone needs to be putting some pressure on, believe me, it will pay off.

Another question. If Ron suspected the Sheffields at any time why didnt he go forward and hire his own PI? He had the 12,000 from the child support and donation money. Just maybe he knows that isnt what happened? Why waste the money on a theory that is going to lead no where? Just trying to figure out why Ron would never go in that direction like a lot of other people have??? jmo

I wish I could see that far ahead and say without a doubt that the drug charges are going to stick and the homicide case will be solved due to the drug charges or that the seperate cases will be solved without the help of the other case. Who knows? IMO It still is in the air and we will have to wait and see.

IMO we are being left in the dark to chase our tail and will be shocked when and how the abduction case is solved and the true guilty are behind bars and HaLeigh is brought home.

TexasMommy,
I can say that there we a few that I questioned but I thought was just me trying to something of them than they really were.
I’ve heard several times that JS was ex-LE do you no where and why he isn’t still?

BRB Linda. To share.

I was looking up facts on NonCustodial child abductions. It specifically says that abduction by a stranger is very rare. Anyway, here is what the research shows. Very interesting for sure:

The Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention defines family abduction as when a member of the child’s family, or someone acting on their behalf, takes or fails to return a child to the caretaker of custodial rights. The perpetrator may try to hide the child or take him or her out of state with the intent of keeping the child indefinitely.

In 1999 there were an estimated 117,200 cases of family abduction. This accounted for 9% of all missing children that year. Family abductions are usually carried out by parents who are involved in a dispute over custody of the child. They take or keep the child for themselves, ignoring the rights of the other parent. Noncustodial fathers are more likely to commit this type of crime, but in 43% of the cases from 1999, the perpetrator was female. Usually the child is taken by an adult, but in 2% of the 1999 cases the perpetrator was another juvenile, most likely an older sibling. Most of the children abducted were at or below the age of six.

Some people might ask how much harm family abduction can do. After all, the child is with family, not a stranger. It seems unlikely that he or she would come to harm. Family abductions do harm children. The children are forced to live their lives on the run. Being cut off from family and friends makes things worse. It is not surprising, then, that a national study from 1988 found that approximately 16% of children (56,000 cases) who were victims of family abduction experienced serious mental harm. Four percent (14,000 children) were seriously injured, another 4% percent of cases involved physical abuse, and in 3,500 cases, the child was sexually abused. While family abduction leads to fewer deaths than other forms of kidnapping, it is definitely not harmless.

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Given these numbers in 1999, Im sure the rate is way higher now in 2010! I just think we have to keep this possibility in mind since we don’t really know if Haleigh is dead and have not been told of any evidence or proof of such.

What we have is a bunch of drug induced young people whose minds are so distorted on the facts of the day/night that Haleigh dissapeared. **I don’t think any of them are smart enough to fool the police or hide evidence. **I think they are confused and pointing fingers at each other, because they don’t know what to do.

We have focused on all their bad history in their upbringing, their families, use of drugs and crime activity. We have theorized how they killed and hid Haleigh. We don’t know that Haleigh was murdered. It’s possible that they have all implicated themselves, because they are that messed up in the head.

Hello all, been reading your posts! Missed all of you this wkend.

The reason I say the above about the tapes is because up to now all the parts redacted are evidence in the Haleigh case so why let them come out if they are evidence against Joe? Maybe because they are not evidence, and the parts about someone else have been redacted and those are the real evidence.jmo

jaba said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 10:09 am

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VERY TRUE INDEED!!! The whole post was TMI-

kristie said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 11:20 am

We Know Tommy had the yellow rope found in his trailer. Why in the world would Tommy cover for Joe- does not make since. I feel that Tommy covered for Misty. Maybe Ron Knows Hard to tell But Misty Killed her I believe. by accident.
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Did they or didn’t they find yellow rope at one point? Then the river story and the cinders..then the rope at tommys. If they have the “other part” or parts of a yellow rope that are tested and consistent to the rope at tommy’s your theory makes most sense.

Misty did accidentally kill haleigh, calls tommy to help dispose of the body..tommy brings some rope..gets’rid of the “evidence”..misty cleans up the house..does some laundry..while tommy sets the scene of a stranger abduction.

I agree this scenario makes most sense. I don’t think Joe had anything to do with it at all nor was he there when it happened.

If Misty were on drugs and acually could not remember when she gave the statement I do not know what happend to that little girl it would not have came up as deception and LE would not have been looking at Misty as the key.

Chad Elliott was the Chad in the letter. WBG helps take care of him since he is disabled from a logging truck accident that left him handicapped.jmo
LFJ, That was strange since Chelsea says they dont talk to GH but she talked with her on the phone to tell her about the location on 309 and talking to LE about it. This whole bunch is way too involved not to know whats going on and they are still trying to push blame off on Joe. Chelsea has been doing this from the beginning. jmo

Hi
looking for Justice,

Is Timmy Chelseas husband? I was wondering how he fits into this? maybe he knows what happened or was he there too?

looking for Justice said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

If Misty were on drugs and acually could not remember when she gave the statement I do not know what happend to that little girl it would not have came up as deception and LE would not have been looking at Misty as the key.

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yah…finally ..I been trying to make that point for quite some time now..thanks LOOKING FOR JUSTICE..

I don’t think she is lying ‘on purpose’ to hide anything. I think she just really is, one, messed up from the drugs, and two, has not much recall from that day due to being under the influence and passed out.
Just my thought though, as no one really knows.

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READ THE ABOVE POST…

JenM did the Putnam County Chad split? I know he went to stay with his mom who also lives in the same county right after all that info came out.
The way I see it if you look at all the phone calls recently Chelsea giving G.Hollar the Shell Harbour location, then Misty to G. Hollar to call Annette Sykes. Annette and Teresa go out to that location prior to the search and it being roped off, this is where the cover- up is.

LFJ, One thing is strange, we have so much info on everyone but Timmy. We only see one photo of him the whole time the searches are going on and its when Ron and Misty are married. He never gets interviewed or captured on video, why is that? It makes me suspisous of him. jmo

Tobias I too believe that is very strange. It is like he wants to keep his face out of the public. There could be a very good reason for that. Perhaps he was spotted out that night by someone and he doesn’t want to be exposed.

There are many stressors that can influence the results of a LDT. That’s why the are unreliable. Any type of prescription medicine, recreational drugs, mental illness, and even if you have been sick recently can taint those results. LE thinks Misty holds the key IMO because she was the last person to see her. We do not know what question she proved “deceptive” on do we? I would think putting a lot of stock in those LDTs would prove a futile exercise, considering they can not be used exclusively to prove one’s guilt. LE was hopefully thinking Misty would “crack” and offer a full confession to the events of that night by giving her a LDT. JMO

No you cannot put stock fully in the LDTs. The last one she was given, she was not under any of the stressors and still flunked completely. According to what we heard from the August LDT and voice layered test was she also flunked completely. I hope they do release Rons transcripts and LDT. Then perhaps we could get a better look into this case.

Tim Miller use to have on his site the questions that Misty failed.

Misty Cummings, the stepmother of missing Fla. girl HaLeigh Cummings was given a polygraph test on Aug. 19 regarding the little girl’s disappearance.

Tim Miller of Equusearch arranged a polygraph test, a voice analysis examination, and a hypnosis session at Misty’s insistence because she claimed she wanted to clear her name. Miller said on Wednesday that Misty failed all three tests.

According to First Coast News, Miller said Misty was asked four questions. The questions, Misty’s answers, and the amount of deception noted are below:

Question: Did you intentionally withhold any information regarding Haleigh’s disappearance?
Answer: No
Result: 99% deception

Question: Do you know what happened to Haleigh?
Answer: No
Result: 99% deception

Question: Do you know where Haleigh is now?
Answer: No
Result: 95% Deception

Question: Do you know who took Haleigh?
Answer: No
Result: 42% deception

According to Miller, who was confused by the last question and the amount of deception of 42%, a polygraph expert explained that result could mean there were multiple people involved, and that something may have happened inside the house preventing Misty from knowing who actually abducted HaLeigh.

Miller also told First Coast that Misty cried after obtaining the results of the test, and then stormed out of the room. After speaking to her, she then requested hypnosis and voice analysis examinations.

Has anyone theorized that Haleigh had a seizure and wet the bed? and that is why Misty washed the blankets that night?

Is it possible that Misty had Tommy watch the kids while she was gone for a while? She came home and found that something had happened. Tommy said Ron would kill them both, so they had to make a plan?

Is it possible that Misty took the kids over to Tommy and Lyndsy’s for Tommy to watch them while she went somewhere? Something may of happened over there? Maybe that’s why there is no evidence at the MH to speak of?

JenM said,in May 17th, 2010 at 12:19 pm Is it rumor or fact about the rope?

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LE hasn’t commented on a rope or cinder blocks.

If gators were fed on that boat ramp where were they when the search was going on? Did they risk getting attacked during the search or were all the gators gone? I remember watching a documentory about gators and if they are fed they hang around and arent scared of humans since they are the food providers.
Just another question. jmo

Thanks for posting that, Becky.

The discussion on yesterday’s show was very interesting.
I was hoping to hear a little more discussion about Grammie Hollars as I do believe that her input is valuable.
It isn’t even so much as to what she had said (repeated) that was necessarily valuable imvho.
The timing of her comments, her breaking of the pledge to her GrandSon that she would not repeat the discussion or tell anyone what was said etc… in itself is what I found very interesting.

I personally am of the belief that it appears that what GH had to say to Tommy during the phone conversation between the two was very leading.
Simply put, GH appears to be answering her own questions.

In the beginning when Grammie Hollars was first interviewed she says that she doesn’t believe that Misty was involved, only Tommy and Joe but then soon after that comment was made and televised she switched quickly to saying that she believes that all three, Misty, Tommy and Joe are all involved.
What/who exactly caused this quick switch of opinion?

Grammie Hollars then tells of how she heard that Misty and Jr. were hiding under the blanket as Haleigh was crying out as she was allegedly being assaulted.
Note: If that were true then Misty could possibly testify to such. (Jr. aka Butterbean Would have surely told someone about an incident like this though I do believe.)

Tobias thank you for the info. I have an extreme fear of these reptiles. The only gators I do not fear are the Florida Gators. LOL!

Leonard Padilla stated that “Haleigh was already dead when Tommy and Joe showed up at the trailer.”

I really Believe Misty killed her. I believe Tommy helped hide the body with Joe. Tommy knows what happened and so does misty. fact show that the drugs she was on would not make her disoriented.

Did yall Know Lindsay said she was moving in with Timmy? I saw the news video of her stating this AND that the police asked Timmy if he HELPED Misty hide the body. Key words – HELPED MISTY HIDE THE BODY. why is Lindsay moving to Timmys in MA?

Tuff if Jr had witnessed anything at all he would of told his dad and grandmothers. What we know is that Jr said he saw a man dressesed in black take his sissy. He was asked if Haleigh woke up or made any noise and he said no. We did not hear him on the 911 call.

Pit bull, I think.

What makes padilla think that she was dead at the trailer before others arrived.

JenM said,in May 17th, 2010 at 1:15 pm Pit bull, I think
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Thanks JenM

I have been thinking over the weekend. Lindsy was at nursing school that night right, and Tommy was at home with his children? She came home at 1015 to 10:30 and Tommy was there? She said that he was there with her the rest of the night right? well if he went to help Misty before she came home did he take his children with him, or leave them unattened at home? have his children been questioned? maybe he left them with Chelsea and went and Picked up his van and Timmy. I dont know if this is correct info about Lynsy being at school, please correct me if I am wrong. But I have been wondering about where his children could have been, and what about Jr when all of this supposedly went down, and then thinking what if they were all dropped off at Chelsea’s while this was all taken care of????

I thought the only person we ever heard a “man in black” from was CS. And from the post above there are some posters that are suspicious of her and the family. I havent really thought alot about her, but the “man in black” has not cme from le so I have not given alot of thought to that. but I do think that the children play a big part in this, because Tommy’s children and Jr could have been witness to what happened.

Robin check my post at 1:41 also, we already know Tommy said he was there that night, where were his children????

looking for Justice said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 1:12 pm

Tuff if Jr had witnessed anything at all he would of told his dad and grandmothers. What we know is that Jr said he saw a man dressesed in black take his sissy. He was asked if Haleigh woke up or made any noise and he said no. We did not hear him on the 911 call
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We don’t know what Jr told LE that morning. The man in black came from Crystal and then that story morphed into something extra. As far as the he was asked if sissy woke up and made a noise, where did you hear that? I’ve never heard it before and I watched that interview with Geraldo.Jr. didn’t say anything, he kept munching on chips the whole time.

I never thought about Tommy’s children before, but if he went over to Misty’s before Lindsy got home then I,too, question where his children were or if they stayed alone. Good question, and one I have not heard an answer from or if anyone has considered it before.

Anybody heard? Tommy has confirmed that he was there at the trailer that night, that he and Joe went to get the gun to hunt. Does anyone has anyone heard where his children were? Were they with him? did they witness anything? Have they been questioned? Did he leave them with Chelsea, or home alone unattened? They had to be SOMEWHERE? Maybe they are the key to this investigation, I believe some of Tommy’s children are older than Jr.

His little boy Austin did say his daddy scared him?

That was his lawyers statement Wertner said Joe and Tommy went to borrow the gun. To me this sounds so far out there its almost a laughable lie if it werent for Haleigh. Tommy evidently cant lie as good as his sister can. jmo

Tommy was babysitting till 10PM wasn’t he,then Lindsey says he was in bed?

if he had a gun,why barrow one?

Does anyone remember Rons real time to get home? I know he worked over because a barge was late, what was his usual time? Misty would not know he had to work over since she had her phone off. If he started at 4-5 8 hrs would be 12;30-1;30. jmo

CathyJo63 said,in May 17th, 2010 at 2:22 pm Tommy was babysitting till 10PM wasn’t he,then Lindsey says he was in bed?
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but there is no possible way. His kids would have had to be with him when him and jo went to BORROW the gun. They would have been witnesses.

right Karri,thats why i said wait for him to confirm? o lord!

Chelsea said Joe was there when they went to bed so he couldnt have been with Tommy until way later or at all that night. Remember she said she stayed up late to do paper work for the wrecked car. So when was Joe supposed to do all this. It makes no sense. jmo

I ahvent seen any evidence of anything significant from the van that was reportedly moved.

Once again, LE maybe have a little something, who knows.

If he left the kids alone alot then the kids wouldnt think that it was weird that he left them alone, and prob wouldnt say anything about it i would suppose. we are nto taling about responsible parents here.

The gun would have been more believable,lol no way in hello could he hold them both hostage with a gun,not even 1 oof them,unless somebody else was carrying Haleigh!

Did he have the kids with him when he smoked the joint with misty?

Karri,

That fits a lot of what I can believe.

it seems they all know more when theyre caught up in a specific detail…then its Jo!

shewww,not lindsey!!! chelsea and timmy??

I mean I think Ron knows, maybe thats why he is getting a deal for his drug charge, he may be talking, and the cops may feel for him because he has lost a child, but I dont think he had any direct involvement. I think that something happened, and Misty called Tommy who dropped his kids off at Timmy and Chelsea’s and him and Timmy took the van, and went to help their little sister. I think that Tommy has kept Lyndsy in the dark, and she has unknowingly? (idk if thats the right word) covered for him. I just hope it all come out soon. I may be way off, but this is what I have come up with lately.

jaba said,in May 17th, 2010 at 2:39 pm Did he have the kids with him when he smoked the joint with misty?
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I think he did have the children with him, i believe i read that they were outside playing with haleigh and jr.

Anyone want to bet the families and maybe even joe himself follow this story on line. Hell, I’m addicted and I’m not even involved. Imagine people talking about your family members. You’d be looking in.

I’d bet ron and misty and tommy looked in awhile back from the first week to see what people were saying.

Everybody wave to the families.:):):)

i mistyped gun for knife,dunno whats up wiff me,today,lol

/me waves and smiles with an evil eye to da family!

Jaba,you and me,you oughta see my house,its gonna cave in! wait and see!but where am i?
sitting here with everybody else whose prolly in the same mess,lol

Well Cathy if it’s the Croslins don’t worry
some can’t read or write. I think that is Hank.
I haven’t heard anyone comment on Lisa’s educational level. She would have had to be a young mother so I am sure they are all
some what environmental delayed.

lol coop,thats true………forgot that!
But omg,they could gumm us todeff!

http://www.news4jax.com/slideshow/entertainment/20067310/detail.html
ROFLMAO!

ya know Robin,you may have something there?

robin,didnt it say somewhere that Lindseys ride home was late?

i think i read that,

Wonder why they went to steal a gun?
they were out of drugs right? Tommy needed some to go to work the next day,if they stole a gun theyd have to sit on it a few days to even sell it,it makes more sense they went to steal drugs and maybe got irate over that???? If theyre on crack as everyone said!
what if they held up ron and misty and killed little Haleigh because ron wouldn’t habd over the drugs,or just misty?

CATHY JO: OMG, I have been wanting to ask you if you got your name from Petticoat Junction!!!! How cute!! That was my favorite show! Memories!!! Sorry off topic.

LoL Yep,thats the exact place i got it!
memories.ahhh yes….good ole days!

CathyJoe–I don’t have a clue about Lindsy’s ride. Maybe the 2O+ calls to Misty that night was tell her that he has to work overtime–not to conduct an elaborate plan to coverup his daughters’ accident/murder. He calls Tommy (who lives closer to her) to run over there and tell her that and maybe even to find out what is wrong with her phone. I call numerous times to my house when I am going to be late so they do not worry. I think Misty might wait up for Ron when he gets off from work every night, so he wants to make sure she don’t worry or that he might be messing around (since they recently reconciled). I can see this happening as a possible scenario, but who knows with this crowd. JMO

I pray you’re right Coop!
I just couldn’t believe a gramma would do that to somebody,I am still split on why she’d do that? I am glad she did if its true but just sayin,it makes me skeptical and omg.the f word just flows off her tongue,i could never even imagine my granny saying that!lol

robin,Ron said he knew something was wrong because Misty was up? so i assume she never was when he got home?

Chelsea lied,sorry……….no way a druggie leaves their stash out especiallllllly in a family full of druggies!!!!!!!

Tommy needed his drugs ,he even said he didnt go to work that day because he didnt have any. Its in one of the tapes and Lindsy agrees with him. So we know Tommy gets agressive when he needs them, he even beat up his own father. Did he get into it with Misty that night fighting over Rons pills? Haleigh just happens to getin the way and ooopppps. jmo

Linda B: I’m here now. I just wanted to tell you that your posts mirror mine, but the difference is yours are written much better. You get your opinion across better. Anything new happening? What do you think about the gun fight, and Ron initially lieing about it, and also, what are your thoughts on the drug sting.

Why didn’t tommy try and steal some pills during the joint smoking or after. He may knw where ron kept them and could have rummaged through something.
He’s done the old go to the neighbor and make a call while I steal your gun becasue you are blind. What a guy. So he’s a crafty thief. He’s used to doing it. Any opportunity he sees he thinks ‘score’.

And why didn’t he check for the gun while down there smoking weed?

Just sayin,I have been there,a druggie never ever leaves his drugs layin anywhere,not even at home!

IF RONALD HIS THE GUNS,BELIEVE ME HE HID THE DRUGS WHICH MAY BE WHY THE BACKDOOR WAS OPEN TO BEGIN WITH,SO THEY COULD TAKE THEM SOMEWHERE TO HIDE AND THATS WHY TOMMY GOT MAD!

right Jaba,and it was 3 am when he and lisa knocked on the neighbors door? crazy!

right Tobias,mabe b/c they hid stuff from Tommy,he took revenge as an addict would do!
I am telling ya right now,if i didn’t have my pillls,not even 1 i could not get off my couch………but if i knew i’d be getting them it was instant energy,thats how the mind works in an addict!

people have shown guns to me,but i hatem,lol
thats just family,jo likes guns,family gets a new car they brag,man gets a new gun,they brag!

all this crap still don’t add up and i can’t see if Jo was involved,how they wasn’t frightened before the drug bust,Jo wasn’t in jail??
Tommys out 3 am and days and nights still dealing!

which tells me he wasn’t too scared for his kids!

right too,Karri,maybe tommy helped misty out??

the drugss may have bid hidden at as??
who knows! they went there before school

Your right tho CJ63 the drugs would have been hidden in the home. Misty may have known where Ron kept them tho. But you know ron would have prob kept a count on them….

but i may be wrong but i don’t think JO is involved! don’t ask me why cuz dunno how i’d splain that one,lol

right or because ron told her theyd hide them so tommy or jo couldnt harass her about them,he did say.howd you let my daughter get stole which makes me wonder if he left her some kind of protection that day b/c he suspected them of stealing? IJDK!

i see what you mean Robin,hard to figuure out but i don’t believe anybody stealing a gun is gonna kill anyone,but drugs i jdk!

se,last correction,lol shew Karri.i need help!

I still don’t trust the Sheffield/Griffis connection; now u all have me wondering if he is in w/ Joe and Tommy in a huge coverup, as there is not even a smidge of evidence of a body….or any tissue for that fact. (oops, forgot DEM BONES!! THANKS ARTIE.) Just like JenM says. I don’t think there’s any of us who don’t suspect they are involved.
Shoooooooooot goin’ back to original theory, where Marty Sheffield paid Joe to transport Haleigh….Tommy was the assistant, Misty caught in the middle. Gun and drugs used for money and trading.
There’s no way this could go that far as to having Tommy in w/Misty making up the scenario of the dock? Shoot, gettin’ too way off track.

did you?
not she

i might be able to believe one over another,but not 1 oz of total trust!

its just hard to believe any of them,period!
i don’t suspect ron,or misty,jo,can’t….i suspect everybody who knew Haleigh because of the mess they created!

exactly!

A guy that does burglaries owns dark clothing maybe even black clothing so he can move around undetected. A man in black statement made by JR could very well be Tommy in his B and E clothing. Jr probably never got a look at his face because Tommy kept that hidden or Jr might have seen him from behind. Maybe LE searched that house for some black clothing (Lindsy and Tommy’s house). That rat in the mailbox came after a fight between Tommy, Ron, Lisa, and Hank four days before. Misty supposedly called the Croslins to pick her up because she did not want to stay with Ron anymore. The rat could have been a simple statement not to press charges on him for assault and pursue the assault case any further to Tommy. Its stupid and juvenile, but yet sadly, we see that time and again with them. JMO

What I find strange about that is TN and Ron never do comment on her falling in the canal. Why is that? jmo

cause its a lie Tobias!imo

when couples fight for custody?
cs said she had to give Haleigh cpr? thats crazy,she would have had to call 911 if it were that bad?

ohhhhhh,you mean lol that ron and cs were getting backk together,oh yea i know,lol
was just telling ronfan i have crazy thoughts about it too,lol sorry

Jaba

I meant to say Rons Trailer because Ron called and asked him to check on Misty

cops are putting all those phone calls together

but Tommy Admitted he was there at 10:00 at Rons

no i was just saying to ronfan that i have scanned every possible thing that could have happened,sorry i threw ya but tg you are Tobias!lol

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/02/01/tommy.croslin.2010.burglary.report.pdf

stuff he stole!

he cut/pried door/removed screen
ransacked!

tobias said,in May 17th, 2010 at 4:47 pm I dont believe Ron since he lied a

I don’t believe a word he says myself Tobias!
hands?? what did i miss?

Ron knew about the site way before then if you listen to the tapes from Cobra. Those tapes were made just a few months after Haleigh went missing. And if Ron knew it so did Misty. They just used it to frame Joe. jmo

Spotting of Haleigh Cummings
This weekend, Florida law enforcement traveled to Massachusetts to speak to Misty Croslin’s brother, Timothy Croslin, and his wife, Chelsea Croslin, regarding the disappearance of 6 year old Haleigh Cummings. Haleigh
disappeared from her home in the early morning hours of February 10, 2009. She is the subject of a state and nationwide Amber Alert. Within the past weekend, it is possible that Haleigh Cummings was sighted at a Wal-Mart located in Abington, Massachusetts.

According to reports, anonymous phone tips were made to various media outlets in and around Cape Cod and Boston stating that a girl matching Haleigh Cummings’ description was spotted at a Wal-Mart in Abington, Massachusetts. This sighting comes in addition to Florida law authorities traveling to Massachusetts to question Misty Croslin’s brother. Source say the questioning lasted many hours and that Chelsea Croslin was questioned for nearly 14 hours. Authorities are reviewing surveillance tapes for further information. The nature of the interviews conducted and questions asked of Timothy and Chelsea Croslin remain to be seen, detectives aren’t currently releasing that information.

A report by T.J. Hart of WSKY 97.3 FM states that a caller reported seeing a young girl in a shopping cart being pushed by an adult. It hasn’t been released yet whether the adult was a male or female. Currently, the incident rests upon surveillance video tapes and whether or not Haleigh Cummings will appear on those tapes. It’s important to note that Timothy Croslin, Misty Croslin’s brother was in Satsuma, Florida at the time of Haleigh’s disappearance. He and his wife also live in proximity of the Abington, Massachusetts Wal-Mart where the sighting took place.

yea Vaq,right so why would she throw timmys too??

The time line doesnt work for Joe either if you believe Chelsea. She said Joe was there when they went to bed, which she says was late.(11-12) Rons regular working hours would have him almost ready to come home at 1;00. It just doesnt work. jmo

I wished Joe would make a statement on what he saw going on down there. It may be very interesting. jmo

http://www.realitychatter.com/haleigh-cummings-f15/lindsey-and-chelsea-croslin-missing-links-in-haleigh-cummings-case-t2276.htm
This is the link for that article?
was Lindsey there that day?

I’d say it would Tobias!

so lil miss lindsey?

Wouldnt doubt it from the tapes she is all for going to that colony in Calf. where its legal. lol jmo

she said powder for cocaine to tommy,i never used it so i call it cocaine,i thought even that was odd!
Maybe tommy knew where her money was going!

Haleigh Cummings & Caylee Anthony & A Long Discussion
Posted on April 23rd, 2010
http://www.bloggernews.net/124386

I had the opportunity to have a pretty in depth discussion with Statement Analysis expert Peter Hyatt a couple of days ago. His brand of science and art is not Voodoo, it makes perfect sense. Just like the polygraph reveals deception so does the written and spoken word if you know what to look for.

In many ways he backed up the age old theory that in every lie there is a grain of truth. Sometimes it is hard to find, but it is there. The real challenge is finding all of those grains and piecing together the puzzle.

Cases such as Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony become convoluted quickly. Andy Warhol’s 15 minutes of fame rule seems to become the norm. As a case ages, the spider web of ‘important’ people seems to grow at an exponential rate.

There can be no better example of this phenomena as the Haleigh Cummings case. In the rabid need to bring news to the public, just about everyone that is even remotely related to the little girl has spoken out. It does not matter that they had not seen her in years, it does not matter that they knew nothing about her circumstances at the time of the disappearance, they are all experts.

I’ve had a question on my mind since TC’s attorney was on NG. Who released the Tommy and GMHollers tape his attorney or LE?

exactly right Tobias!!!!!!!!!!!!

and she throws tom and tims boots away? gave him an alibi.hmmm

they carrired it out the backdorr so not to be seen,placed the brick while they loaded it up!

Misty has never stated that Lindsy was at the MH that day, and claimed they at dinner there. The Cummings children were eating at the time GGMA stopped by, weren’t they?

yes they were Robin!

Timmy is the pot smoker so his would be the one with the plants possibly. Ron is into pills. I bet these people were scurring around cleaning their houses too. JMO

misty said she cooked dinner afterwards! right?

betcha my last penny! cleaning,misty said beforte she said Haleighs name,i was cleaning?

mORE LIKE OPENED A CAN OF CHEF BOYARDI FROM WHAT COBRA SAYS. Some cook.lol jmo

forgot they left the other propped?? possible

a can of pork n beans with a fork stuck in them Tobias,lol

sommin going on,we have heard trillions of stories but this is the 1st time any of this has been heard by me??

true too Tobias,I think they all planned to frame him!

Wow, 14 hours with chelsea. And she was just, up, at the time in question.

She must have been telling everyones life story to LE.

There are a finite number of times they are going to ask her if she was or knows who was involved. Their talk must have been extensive in a variety of areas.

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/05/tommy-tapes.html

now chelsea has a tattoo of Haleigh?

Tobias- The primary focus for going to Ron’s may be his household cleaning products and a few towels to boot. Maybe that’s why there was no detergent at the MH.(Tommy’s MO) Just joking..This case is so tragic and in the midst of it is a missing girl. Its hard to find one ounce of truth and honesty from anyone involved! JMO

hm maybe why tommy changed his version,saying he wasn’t there later?

someones voice is on the 911 tape too,or was it,brb phone

I’ll bbs gotta run to da store!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi6iOeQ8cgs
chelsea video

iF LE wanted to use a scapegoat they would be down joes neck as we speak…we have two people who SAY IT WAS HIM..that’s more then they have on your so CALLED SCAPEGOAT..that makes NO SENSE AT ALL for you to say they are using her…they have more of a chance with JOE if they were looking for a “SCAPE GOAT”..THINK ABOUT IT! How is it that you even say she is a scapegoat,
has she been charged – NO ..
has she been declared a person of interest NO
is she in JAIL because of HALEIGH…NO

What you don’t get it that LE is lookiing for MURDERER..NOT A GOAT!!!

a scapegoat for the ones who did it CA….not le!

ok so now I see Tommy said he was home at 10pm then tells cops he was at Rons at 10pm then said he lied to try to get out of jail he says. so he took back he was at Rons at 10pm. now he says again he knows how she died. so was he there or not.

OJ,did you see here where Lindsey was at Mistys that day too? a new one on me!

I think somebody just has their facts about the timeline confused.

I heard LC say in one of the JHV’s, she got home at 10:15 – not went to bed then.

It’s obvious LE thinks Chelsea knows something with that 14 hour interogation.

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 6:15 pm iF LE wanted to use a scapegoat they would be
sorry CA,LOL who were you referring too? i didn’t see she isn’t a scapegoat? thought you meant he as in Joe

personal attacks aint allowed by nobody CA,be careful!

who was sold?

Kim P looked to me to be very professional in her spot on jvm.

Don’t know how you get anything other than that out of a few short sentences during each segment.

She may be something else. But from that interview. Normal for an attorney.

I DON’T THINK JO DID IT AT ALL!

we agree once again JO,I do not like KP at all!

OJ’s glove said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 1:54 am

tommy sent LE on a wild goose chase..50 divers! can you imagine that!? the cost? the foolishness the sheriff must have felt? and the cream on the cake was the sheriff’s own SON was snared up in a drug sting and charged with TRAFFICING!!! what a JOKE!!! pcso are a bunch of barney fifes tryin to make misty a scapegoat patsy for their botched bungling of the haleigh
investigation!

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CathyJo63 said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 6:20 pm

a scapegoat for the ones who did it CA….not le!

( UHM NO..SEE ABOVE POST..MAKES NO REF. TO ANYONE BUT LE)
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C~A said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

iF LE wanted to use a scapegoat they would be down joes neck as we speak…we have two people who SAY IT WAS HIM..that’s more then they have on your so CALLED SCAPEGOAT..that makes NO SENSE AT ALL for you to say they are using her…they have more of a chance with JOE if they were looking for a “SCAPE GOAT”..THINK ABOUT IT! How is it that you even say she is a scapegoat,
has she been charged – NO ..
has she been declared a person of interest NO
is she in JAIL because of HALEIGH…NO

What you don’t get it that LE is lookiing for MURDERER..NOT A GOAT!!!

misty is innocent!

Who Cathy? I always thought Misty

she said Cobra was all this stuff.crazy you name it,but later went on to say she hoped her kids could sit on his lap again one day! geeeee

CathyJo63 said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 6:15 pm iF LE wanted to use a scapegoat they would be down joes neck as we speak…we have two people who SAY IT WAS HIM..that’s more then they have on your so CALLED SCAPEGOAT..that makes NO SENSE AT ALL for you to say they are using her…they have more of a chance with JOE if they were looking for a “SCAPE GOAT”..THINK ABOUT IT! How is it that you even say she is a scapegoat,
has she been charged – NO ..
has she been declared a person of interest NO
is she in JAIL because of HALEIGH…NO

What you don’t get it that LE is lookiing for MURDERER..NOT A GOAT!!!

Thats just mean! Now that i get it??
be nice!

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What’s mean cathj? What???? MISTY IS NOT A SCAPEGOAT..IF THEY WERE LOOKING FOR ONE THEY WOULD NOT PICK HER…WHAT’S MEAN..DONT’ GO THERE…IT’S MY OPINION..WHO’S IT BEING MEAN TO..???

Haha Cathy

I meant who you think killed her?

do you think Joe was there? I think he was but maybe not the killer.

blows my mind!

Does anyone think Ron Married Misty to make her legal adult to get her charged?

and whoever it is that killed her will be arrested after they pile up the case.

who u think it is Cathy?

UHM YES CATHY HIS OPINION AND MINE…WE ARE BOTH ENTITLED..WHAT’SMEAN ABOUT IT? I DON’T APPRECIATE BEING TOLD I AM BEING MEAN WHEN YOU CAN READ MY POST FOR YOURSELF..NOTHING MEAN ABOUT IT!
I am calm but it frustrates me that you come in on my post when you don’t even know what I am saying and have a twisted take on it…READ THE POST WITHOUT BIAS PLEASE BEFORE YOU TELL SOMEONE THEY ARE BEING MEAN WITH NO BASIS FOR IT..GAWD..SENSLESS B.S

THANKS…

then some serious housecleaning went on!

no semse,stupid maybe i took it wrong,if so,I am sorry!

What did Picazio have to say on JVM…anything worthwhile? I just wish a caller would ask who in the Sheffields have taken LDTs and what their results were? – I think the Sheffields had the most motive and the most to gain by taking this child. I bet they even thought beforehand to take her from RON’s house on MISTY’s watch. JMO

wouldn’t surprise me at all either Robin!

CATHYJ – THIS IS MEAN..BUT YOU SAID NOTHING WHICH MY BASIS FOR ASKING YOU TO STOP BEING BIASED AND FOCUS ON WHAT IS BEING SAID AND NOT WHAT YOU DECIDE TO INTERPRET…

OJ’s glove said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 10:03 am

c-a..our laws are not like your french laws..maybe you shpuld concentrate on all those feet in your neck of the woods.

The Sheffields will not be able to get away with it much longer. JMO

Cathy my goodness how much does the drugs the
guys had weight according to your 6:47 post.
Thats a lot of drugs to require that the door
be propped open. I think it was a banged up
storm door and was always propped open by the repairman.

I think a constant baseless regurgitation of misty is innocent is not only irritating but has no foundation…we all get it..i have nothing against oj..i just think he needs to stop his personal attacks as well as some of you in here on those of us who would like to discuss FACT..and opinions based on fact.

It is obvious he has a dislike for me personally or he wouldn’t bring up my kids..WHY IS THAT Ok? i SIMPLY give my opinion on the case and don’t attack personally…WHAT GIVES HERE IN THIS ROOM ????

CATHY I DID “NOT INSULT OJ” You can’t say stuff like and tell someone to drop it..I didn’t start it..if anything if you “read” my post on what he said to me today..HE INSULTED ME BUT GUESS THAT’S OK …OMG

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 6:58 pm I think a constant baseless regurgitation of misty is innocent is not only irritating but has no foundation…
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I do not see any difference in your regurgitation of rumors and lies.

Bombshell tonight!

why invite him down there?
i just dont believe for a second anybody was killed if they were for a gun? more to the story!

and i said if i did hurt you i was sorry,and i am but lord i dont wanna keep going,if he insulted you 1st,yes hes wrong……that simple,I AM SORRY if i did something wrong!
I can only apologize for what i do? not anyone else!

jaba,another one,large,med or small? lol

see,you are tearing into everybody CA!
Please calm down!

Well cathyj you only insulted me if you say I was mean..that’s just ridiculous. NOT fair.

If you don’t, then I accept your apology and thank you.

Cathy this home was in a trailer park. If they
had that much in drugs in that home there is
a lot bigger fish to fry in this than the
Croslin clan. This people lived a very poor
lifestyle. The lifestyle doesn’t match and they
sure don’t have an offshore account. I think
they are small town peddlers and poppers.I think they existed on sellings pills and stealing. How does Hank that can’t read or
write run a drywall business that employed
Chelsea. Misty is not the key Chelsea is the key? She was always following along behind Misty smoking like a chimney in the beginning.
They got out of dodge in a hurry. Timmy was
knocked out on drugs due to the auto accident.
……as per Chelsea, Van keys moved per Chelsea, She was up late doing insurance papers
where was Joe at that time smoking.

true coop but it seems everybody there was in the know,but maybe feared because of retalliation and they’d just moved there too? so i dunno,
and i agree.Chelsea knows alot and maybe thats whats coming next??

ok here is the link with the guy Greg and his pic

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://mistycroslin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/white-boy-greg.jpg&imgrefurl=http://mistycroslin.com/%3Ftag%3Dwilliam-cobra-staubs&usg=__eEcj-yNhKMJXn7crU2BezgvA48M=&h=320&w=240&sz=12&hl=en&start=81&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=0mXMLUY8aS8wWM:&tbnh=118&tbnw=89&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpics%2Bof%2Bmisty%2Bcroslin%2Band%2Bboyfriend%26start%3D80%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1R2GGLL_en%26ndsp%3D20%26tbs%3Disch:1

i agree Coop!

CA! I am truly sorry if i jumped the gun but it does appear the way i saw it.maybe i am mistaken,I am sorry!
Can we drop it,I guess we all get a little aggravated and say things but we shouldn’t!
and i am cap queen i know..but when you spoke to him when you came in you typed all that in caps and i assumed you called all of us crazies till i saw >she? then i knew you meant OJ! SORRY OK?
Now lets jaw?

Hey Texas Momma

so are you saying that the other parent at the bus stop lied?

Ill dig up the police report. look up and see the other link to Mistys cheater BF Greg.

i don’t think the bus stop parent lied,he was also a dcs worker too right? jerry?

I agree cathy…if we can agree to admit when we are wrong great…I am actually a serial cap useer…MOSTLY FOR EMPHASIS…so now you know…you can ask jan for old postsof mine…same style…its just me

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:22 pm texas..post my mean post if you dare!!!! We are not in kindergarten lady..go back on the carpet if you can’t play nice.
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You are mean and I do not need to go any where. Maybe you need a break. As far as not responding to you I usually do not and will not in the future.
You have your opinions of a lot of posters obviously and only chat with a few anyways.

a person can only apologize so many times!

robin, I have faith that PCSO will solve this case and the Sheffields will be found guilty of abducting HaLeigh.

Greg Lewis Page – myspace

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=204816204

*added to new myspace thread

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:27 pm I agree cathy…if we can agree to admit when we are wrong great…I am actually a serial cap useer…MOSTLY FOR EMPHASIS…so now you know…you can ask jan for old postsof mine…same style…its just me

Well,I can’t argue there..LoL I DO understand that one,see we do have sommin in common!
I don’t need to ask Jan.I believe you!

cathy I said..i accepted our apology..don’t you read my posts?

texas..I didn’t think you could post one thing that back you up…I don’t have an opinion on “a lot” of posters..I discuss what is brought up by many..I am only trying to be involved and voice an opinion..dont’ advise me..your posts are evident you need the break..BUTTIN YOUR NOSE IN. I have never said a mean thing on this blog nor have i ever really conversed with you. So please have respect if you can’t butt out..

NOW …

So the plea that ronald has brewing against misty is about the haleigh disappearance.???? wow

thanks cathyJ …no harm done!! or intended 🙂

I guess Jan was only talking to me when she said drop it?

lol 🙂

yes CA,i do..lol do u even have to ask.rofl i was looking for articles on wbg!

Homespain,also who knows Misty wasn’t knocked out by a drug and they used her keys and puttem back,ya know?

call it as i see it Ca,or sometimes i don’t see it so i just call it and thats where the problem lies,rofl

Is this the “fight” that Ron says wasn’t really a fight?

Why did Misty no longer want live with Ron?

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/08/18/cummings.arrest.pdf

CATHY…NG SAID…

DID YOU SEE THIS..

C~A said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

So the plea that ronald has brewing against misty is about the haleigh disappearance.???? wow

UGGGH! I’m so angry at all these families trying to profit of dead or missing babies,Chelsea trying to sell the letter and I also read today that the Anthony’s sold more pics to CBS. This has become such a sick part of our society.

sorry off topic, but had to rant!

rofl omg Justone……ewwwwwww

Chelsea is trying to sell the letter,you gotta be kidding me!
Too bad for Hank sr. then cuz he tore his up,lol

no doubt to pay for her attorney when she gets arrested.imo.lol

prolly to pay for HER attorney she’s gonna get,lol

cathyj – Chelsea…what do you think of her? YOu think she is involved?

hmmmm not 100%.more like 99.99% CA!
why the tattoo….makes me wonder!
why leave so fast?

wth would Lindsey do that? thats lower than low!

CathyJo- was that WBG myspace you linked
if so he sure looks different on art harris site dosen’t he?

HOLLARS: That she heard Haleigh in there crying.

GRACE: And who was in the room with Haleigh?

HOLLARS: I`m going to say Joe or Tommy, one.

GRACE: Or both?
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yet now she says she believed it was Jo all along!

Lindsey wasn’t said to be there either but she was Ca??

CathyJo ,
I read that piece from blink on crime or whatever the names is.But why did it say by chilling coincidence it was Caylee Anthony’s 1st birthday.
I thought it was about Haleigh Cummings case that WBG. was in.

ohh i gotcha now,lol hmmm didn’t notice that?

Liars lie. They were lying before Haleigh went missing. They lie for the usual reasons, as well as some that make no sense.She and other family members have lied previously to Haleigh disappearing. And since lied to and about each other when angry, and then retracted those lies again when they want together.

It is a big mess to figure out. Allot of distractions. I can’t tell you the number of people who talk guilty, lie, misbehave in many ways and yet turn out to be innocent of murder. It can be that simple, maybe not.

After all, I doubt that any of the players expected the scrutiny they ended up with.

Imagine you are Misty for a moment. You may have felt inadequate as everyone in the world now KNOWS she’d been in a sex and drug fueled weekend. Followed by family members who Ron hates- visiting the mh when Ron was at work, no less on the night Haleigh disappears. That dope is being smoked around kids.That your house is a mess and laundry is undone, and cops will see it.

I’d have been embarrassed and gone on about cleaning up and doing laundry trying to make myself look better- after all, a child is missing. If I say I fed them, cleaned and did laundry it looks like I care. Maybe that’s why Misty actually volunteered that kind of information inappropriately.

You can say -who cares?… a child is missing! But this is an immature self absorbed, stressed, exhausted girl/woman. She’s lost Rons child- he’s really mad. She’s the last one with the child and feels bad, maybe angry, because now look at the trouble she is in! And she didn’t even want to babysit that night. The world watches and comments and judges her, even her family turns on her for a while.

Yea, I could see how lots of lies came out of that, especially given how the whole family lies, thieves, does drugs, and is maladapted in general. What I’m getting at is it’s too easily so say what is right and wrong behavior given her world view. To say it equates guilt of murder, or negligent homicide isn’t just.
And yes, it’s possible she is guilty of murder. As are others.

Now you or I, given our completely different world view, upbringing, etc, if we talked, lied, etc like she did, it would more likely equate a likelihood of murder-guilt.

But if I was on a jury with just the information we all have now,I could not find her guilty of murder.

And yes, equally, she could be guilty,because those lies and the way she acts and talks are really something else for sure. Jo, Tommy, Crystal etc etc. IMO

CathyJo,
That was big mistake for someone to make it’s hard enough to follow these case’s without mistakes like that.

makes a person wonder though! Sounds familiar tho,anthonys did it too!

Homespain–Great post.

Annette said on NG “I went down there early that morning, and didn’t, you know they wouldn’t tell me anything”.

“Theresa and I went, and, over to that area, and walked around all afternoon in the woods over there, but of course we didn’t find anything”.

CathyJo,
I did’nt understand that about Anthony’s did that to ,here is the article that you posted about WBG .

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/23/haleigh-cummings-case-exclusive-misty-on-3-day-bender-with-lover-and-drugs/

Good point Jason-
Misty must have said it in the later convo, or it was completly fabricated as to how it went down

Homespain–Another great post. You are very articulate and I enjoy reading your posts.

Ummm Hello?? Anyone know? During the initial search, or after declared a homicide, did they use Luminol in the trailer?

whoever thinks the Sheffields did anything, well they didnt. Haleigh was killed. Ron will testify against Misty and Tommy. I wish the Sheffields had enough since to take Haleigh ~now look what happened – she is dead. Crystal met with Ron to discuss funeral arrangements. the cops cant say to Ron “prepare for a funeral” unless they know without a doubt she died.

Beast,I never heard it if they did!

Not so sure aboout that Kristie,She could have killed Chloe befoe she was even born? I don’t think the sheff’swoulda done any better than ron….jmo

Crystal was on drugs too,and she had custody of Chloe?

Misty called Flora after Tom did, and Flora said on NG that Misty told her “Tommy and Joe took Haleigh and wrapped a yellow rope around her and carried her to the dock and put – tied a brick around the bottom of the other end of the rope and throwed her into the river”.

Great post homespain-

I truly hope that putnum LE is analyzing her statements and LD tests like that. I also believe that in all the lies they have told their are threads of truth, they probably have told the truth of that night in the midst of all there conflicting stories

There is NO proof of Haleigh being dead. The only fact we have is that she is ‘gone’. We don’t know how, when, where or by who! That is a fact that I know of. I interpret ‘make funeral arrangements’ as a premature statement by LE or as something saying they may never find her.

Haleigh could of been taken by the Sheffields or someone they hired. OR Haleigh could of been murdered by someone OR died of an accident.

By accident: Why dispose of her body…I really can’t see that happening, UNLESS a child predator is involved in which case they have the need to hide their crime.

By murder: I doubt this one too. Who would want to come in, take and and Murder Haleigh? UNLESS it was a child predator or someone with a serious enough motive to gain from killing her. Or someone crazed from Meth or experiencing a psychotic break.

By abduction: Most children abducted are by their Non-custodial parent. Motive: plenty.
(I know someone will ask why wasn’t Jr taken…because Misty woke up and spoiled the plan before they could get him out).

Which of those happened? That’s the mystery.
However, My opinion is:
Misty and Ron are innocent of harming Haleigh. Misty is guilty of child endangerment. The rest is unknown.

JenM said,in May 17th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
GREAT POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Robin you are a great writer, enjoy reading your posts, just haven’t commented- I’m kinda hit or miss that way. Sorry.

Hi, beastie- I think we just don’t have access to that information yet. I do think though, if they had done it and found blood pooling or splatter, or areas recently cleaned by hydrogen peroxide or Clorox, it would probably have leaked out. And somebody would already have been in jail along time ago prior to any drug charges.

Jason good point

CA- thanks as well for your thoughts. It is most difficult to figure out the truth in all this. I concur that if she did kill Haleigh purposely that she do the time for that.

As far as the drugs, that is a separate issue. Let me be clear- I’m not for trafficking of drugs,the things drugs do to people, what people do to get them, and because of them.

But I think it is outrageous that she is looking at that high bond and spending her life in jail for that amount of drugs, and especially at her age.

I see so many people who have abused children, raped them, killed people and get out of jail in a short time. I get it is the law, and it is inequitable to the price she will pay. IMO.

JenM said,in May 17th, 2010 at 9:27 pm There is NO proof of Haleigh being dead. The only fact we have is that she is ‘gone’. We don’t know how, when, where or by who! That is a fact that I know of. I interpret ‘make funeral arrangements’ as a premature statement by LE or as something saying they may never find her.

Haleigh could of been taken by the Sheffields or someone they hired. OR Haleigh could of been murdered by someone OR died of an accident.

By accident: Why dispose of her body…I really can’t see that happening, UNLESS a child predator is involved in which case they have the need to hide their crime.

By murder: I doubt this one too. Who would want to come in, take and and Murder Haleigh? UNLESS it was a child predator or someone with a serious enough motive to gain from killing her. Or someone crazed from Meth or experiencing a psychotic break.

By abduction: Most children abducted are by their Non-custodial parent. Motive: plenty.
(I know someone will ask why wasn’t Jr taken…because Misty woke up and spoiled the plan before they could get him out).

Which of those happened? That’s the mystery.
However, My opinion is:
Misty and Ron are innocent of harming Haleigh. Misty is guilty of child endangerment. The rest is unknown.
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Well,imo if they did do it……….they could have had it planned to have Haleigh go “missing” then they’d be assured no doubt that they’d get Jr. and after ron went to prison,who knows one day the Sheffields might scream “omg somebody just dropped Haleigh off here”.or similar tactic thus getting both of em!
I wonder if it was tc or hank that gave the tip on the drug dealing??
hmmmmmmm

I don’t trust one of em’

right Jason,imo she lied tho….Chelsea didd i mean..no user leaves it laying around anywhere period!

brb call daughter b4 she goes to bed,lol

Jen m- good posts thanks- interesting

JenM, would have been helpful of NG to ask Chelsea to elaborate on THE story she first heard (by person(s)other than Misty), and reveal the contents of A story that Misty later told her, when she RECANTED her first story about waking up and finding Haleigh gone.

Misty’s ‘story’ doesn’t match THE ‘story’ Chelsea heard from others while Misty was telling what she later admitted to Chelsea was a lie(that she was sleeping, and woke up to find Haleigh gone).

So, we know that after Chelsea heard THE story, Misty confessed to Chelsea that she didn’t wake up and find Haleigh missing, and proceeded to tell her A story.

Misty admitted to Chelsea that she LIED about waking up and finding Haleigh gone, and then told Chelsea ‘a story’ that doesn’t match ‘the story’ Chelsea heard from others.

chakra-7 thanks for your comments, enjoy your posts as well

robin said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:27 pm Texasmommy_Something does not set right with me about the Sheffields. If LE even investigated them, they are sure keeping that tightlipped (except at the farm search), but the Croslin investigation they have made a media field day out of it. Every little tape and video have been nitpicked by every “so called expert” and been regurgitated all over the news.At the beginning my first thought was the Sheffields did this and then the drug arrests and latest search caused me to rethink that scenario. I thought for awhile maybe a stranger abduction, but like the Croslin scenario, I think a body or remains would be found. The only ones that had motive (although a motive does not need to be found it does help an investigation) and means to do this are the Sheffields/Griffis family. Frankly I do not think the Croslins/Cummings could pull this off for 15 months. I might play with other theories like Tommy being the culprit, I do believe the Sheffields theory is the one that makes most sense. I think LE has let them fly under the radar for far too long. JMO
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Sorry robin, I was not trying to ignor your post earlier was a little irritated and needed a break.
IMO I have to disagree with the Sheffield’s flying under PCSO radar.
I have to ask do you really think LE are keeping this close to the vest , since we have seen every tape and heard every audio and been told Misty is the key.
You are correct the obvious seems to be the first and the last place to look. JMO.

JenM and homespain–Both great posts. Homespain what you have been stressing about LDTs are what I have been saying for weeks now, yet you said it so much more beautifully and articulately. Again thank you both so much for your wonderful posts. Both of you give me so much to think about. JMO

Jason, Beast Robin- Good point.That’s right about the door- and if I remember right, there was an issue because Ron’s garbage sat out front unexamined for a long period as well. Well even if there was dna or prints on the door, the chain of evidence was gone. Anyone can say that the police did not control the door, garbage, etc in the aftermath of a crime.

It’s simple. Misty would not be lying about her name, address.. blah blah personal stuff LE knows answers too. They measure that. Stress, drugs and all. Then ask her other stuff pertaining to case.If the results are suspicious it is because the results suggested that. You can’t fail your own name because you, and th4 tester, know what it is. I dont believe you.

OJ’s glove said,in May 17th, 2010 at 9:58 pm welcome to my nightmare cathy and texmom..

good post jenM
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I witness it daily. I enjoy your posts!
I should not of said a word though. 🙁

jason fyi…about 2hrs ago..the caps were addressed..do your homework before mouthing off please.

oops heres the link

http://www.myspace.com/lindsy_croslin

Hey

CathyJo63

Look at Lindsay in this Myspace – she is going as Lindsy Collins

AND BOY would Tommy be mad if he saw her in this pic – her stats is (Somewhere New)

texas..post your basis for your accusations or butt out..this has already been addressed by Jan in the meantime..I have asked you to butt out or prove why you say what you do..You CANT’. MOVE ALONG..you go away after jans post and you come back stirring up crap…GET OVER YOURSELF

theres’ a difference between getting yourself banned and responding to attacks..not the same thing.

the Sheffields did not take her. They have an ex fbi agent that has solved the case. If Haleigh was alive we would know it.

oh and the caps is emphasis, not yelling. We could do bolding and italics but that is too much work 🙂

Kristie,OMG…….She checked in today but omg,well that money may have went for a boob job.rofl jez

Hi C~A

well the last thing I heard from Steve Brown was that he cracked the case and that the police was mounding up the case before they file charges. they always do try to get everything they can before they arrest. did you see his interview? He said the person responsible will be charged and that Misty would get charged he believes for child endargerment.

what does cc&p have to do with anything,His msg IS always the same but because its his own opinion,so maybe he figures why keep typing it over and over…..still the same opinion!
Misty is Innocent!

Tommy would flip!!!! Oh dear Lord!!

homespain…did le actually tell you you FAILED YOUR OWN NAME..that’s not logically or professionally in the realm of possiblilty IMO. I feel it might be your interpretation..but it’s just MHO..I have not and will not call you a liar..but if your read my post it would go against what is logical.

What yo say does not jive with what i believe to be about lie detectors.. Do I know you enough to believe you are 100% correct in what your poly really read..NO..DO I SAY YOU LIE..NO..DO I HAVE MY OWN OPINION ON THE BODYS RESPONSE TO BASIC QUESTIONS AND THE HIGHER LEVELS OF REACTION TO UNVERIFIED QUESTIONS AS THEY RELATE TO THE TRUTH..YES..MY OPINION IS MISTY IS LYING NO MATTER WHAT..SHE IS NO DIFF THEN ANYONE ELSE WHO TAKES A TEST. ALL HAVE SAME UNDERLYING GUIDELINES IMO ON THE RESPONSE TO A TRUTHFULL ANSWER AS OPPOSED TO UNTRUTHFULL..

I am an opinion based blogger..working with my knowledge of the facts..NEVER CLAIMED ONCE TO BE RIGHT…AN OPINION IS JUST THAT.

I HAVE never gotten personal as to mentioning ones family or called names…I have my own logic and have a right to post it.

if you recall I agreed with the first post i ever had contact with you on..you on the other hand GO OFF when i have a diff. opinion.

I don’t have to think long about what you are saying..I have done nothing wrong and have accused nobody of anything..

Why does my opinion mean I’m wrong cause you don’t agree with me??

Beast said,in May 17th, 2010 at 10:06 pm It’s simple. Misty would not be lying about her name, address.. blah blah personal stuff LE knows answers too. They measure that. Stress, drugs and all. Then ask her other stuff pertaining to case.If the results are suspicious it is because the results suggested that. You can’t fail your own name because you, and th4 tester, know what it is. I dont believe you.

I dont believe you.? means I think you’re a liar!
Are you 2 husband and wife?

Heres Crytals (Haleighs mommys myspace)

http://www.myspace.com/crystalsheffield

No CA,All you’ve done is be argumentative!
We apologized…..or tried but you have sommin to say everytime you don’t agree with someone and its bullcrap!
and for a hubby and a wife to come in with the same nasty attidtudes on a person ain’t right!
And i’ll have that opinion till the day i die………and theres nothing wrong with OJ using cc&paste,so i am pointing out if you cant find an argument,you seem to create one!!!!!

if you feel unwanted,then its in your head cuz OJ really wasn’t wanted at one time i assume but he still stuck it out and now hes nice no matter what so don’t make excuses!

Linda. Ok I agree drugs has “something” to do with this somehow. But where, and how, does HaLeigh get involved?

Cathy.. in my sweetest voice please find one post of ine you have an issue with.

cathyj – WHAT IS YOUR PROB. EVERYTHING WAS FINE AFTER “your'” MIS INTERPREATION ON OJ…WHAT’S GOING WITH YOUR ON AGAIN OFF AGAIN..SORRY/ACCUSOR.

YOUR NOT EVEN INVOLVED THOUGHT YOU AND i WERE GOOD! I HAVE NOT ARGUED..DOES DIFF IN OPINON MEAN ARGUE IN YOUR MIND??????

THIS IS A BLOG..WERE NOT ALL GOING TO AGREE..IT’S NOT A DIFFICULT CONCEPT..THIS ROOM IS OUT OF CONTROLL..YOU GUYS FEEL YOUR OPINION IS THE ONLY ONE VALID…IF THE POST IS NOT NICEY NICE…YOU ATTACK…CAN YOU ALL JUST GROW UP..??? I NOW IT’S ALOT TO ASK BUT YOU ARE HERE FOR HALEIGH ..NOT TO HAVE EVERYONE REPEAT YOUR POSTS AS GOSPEL..

YOU CATHYJ…APOLOGIZE AND AFTER POSTS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU …YOU TURN LIKE A RABID DOG..I CAN’T FIGURE YOU CREW OUT..

ALL I KNOW IS YOU ALL ARE ( YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE) ARE MORE CONCERNED WITH YOUR OWN PERSONAL FRIENDSHIP/AGENDA/ORNARY ATTITUDES THEN TO CARE TO BE LOGICAL FRIENDLY AND ACCEPTING.

YOU DON’T OWN OR RUN THE BLOG WHY DO YOU THINK YOU CAN BULLY PEOPLE OUT OF HERE..THAT’S NOT THE RULES IN THIS ROOOM..I HAVE TRIED CONSISTENTLY AFTER ANY ATTACK TO MOVE ON WITH CONVERSATION ON THE ARTICLE/STORY ONLY TO BE KICKED AROUND BY THE NEXT SELF APPOINTED BIG CHEESE…YOU ALL NEED TO RE FOCUS ON THE REASON YORU HERE..

Beast said,in May 17th, 2010 at 10:06 pm It’s simple. Misty would not be lying about her name, address.. blah blah personal stuff LE knows answers too. They measure that. Stress, drugs and all. Then ask her other stuff pertaining to case.If the results are suspicious it is because the results suggested that. You can’t fail your own name because you, and th4 tester, know what it is. I dont believe you.
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I dont believe you.? means I think you’re a liar!
Are you 2 husband and wife?
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CA said she never called her a liar,but you did…..isn’t that what I DON’T BELIEVE YOU MEANS?
Why i asked if you were h/w!

Cathy I answered you, chuckles man you need to relax

Beast said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

Cathy..Yes…and as to the other question, did you read my last post?

then respect Oj’s and Homespains opinions too!!! you keep attacking them!

whatever!! Talk to the finger,the face aint listening!

Cathyjo- how do I locate Lyndsey’s my space please? tx mer

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 11:02 pm you have all managed to ruin the night and waste time not spent on haleigh but rather fighting and bullying..NOT COOL…YOU ARE NOT A BNN FAMILY..you all only want bnn as a friendship sight where nobody else is welcome..

using little haleigh as an excuse to posess a public board..SHAME ON YOU ALL..GOOD NIGHT TO ALL WHO ARE ACTUALLY HERE FOR HALEIGH..

Grow up!!!!

I dont get any drug related “abduction or ransom” angle, I dont think so. The stranger SO could still be an answer, but why is Misty lying so much?

JAN HAS THE UNFORTUNATE TASK AT SEEDING OUT THE INSTIGATORS..I’M SURE SHE HAS BETTER THINGS TO DO..SO SAD..THE MENTALITY/SELF SERVING AGENDAS AT THE EXPENSE OF A MURDERED CHILD..

Jan I am not sorry for standing up for myself..but am sorry for the situation certain bloggers have put you in….I am sorry for that. We are being called out on anything we say..never been direspective..so sadd..

cathy jo…i said that long time ago..i have said nothing immature..your not one to say that to either..your little on line affair with a married man ( and i have held my tongue)has no place IN A MISSINGMURDERED CHILDS’ BLOG…let alone your knee jerk reactions to posts you are not involved in..nor understand..

please don’t hold your tongue? tell it!
Youre ignorant!
because we talk to one another,roflmao!

but i will tell you this,ole girl…you just went the wrong way….How dare you even insinuate that,you don’t know me from Adam!

texas Mommy- You learned your lesson, so be happy with your self. Not a big deal. So often you really go out of your way to be helpful and kind. I’ve enjoyed your posts about the topics we’ve all been looking at. It’s a wild ride for sure.

Please stop. None of this is necessary, especially the name calling and accusations.
BTW, I have my opinions of who was starting stuff, but I think I will keep it to myself, unless Jan writes me and asks my opinion.

i am always willing to stop but i do not appreciate being accused of having an affair……….thats evil to accuse someone of!

Sorry Jen,honestly i am but she took that one way too far!

Jan I apoligize for my decision to prove a point.C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:22 pm texas..post my mean post if you dare!!!! We are not in kindergarten lady..go back on the carpet if you can’t play nice. Well CA,here ya go>>>>>>
###############This is my first response to CA and CathyJo’s discussion of OJ opinion.

texasmommy39 said,in May 17th, 2010 at 6:52 pm Oj is always mistreated because of his opinion anyways. CA does not like him and her posts show it as well as a few others.

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 6:54 pm CATHYJ – THIS IS MEAN..BUT YOU SAID NOTHING WHICH MY BASIS FOR ASKING YOU TO STOP BEING BIASED AND FOCUS ON WHAT IS BEING SAID AND NOT WHAT YOU DECIDE TO INTERPRET…

OJ’s glove said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 10:03 am

c-a..our laws are not like your french laws..maybe you shpuld concentrate on all those feet in your neck of the woods.

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:21 pm cathy AGAIN..NOT TRUE..TEXAS BUTTED HER NOSE IN WITHOUT BASIS..I RESPONDED..NOT AN ATTACK GIRL

YOU POSTED A RESPONSE TO MINE…WHICH WAS ALSO UNFOUNDED..I DON’T RECALL SAYING ANYTHING TO ANYONE ELSE…SO PLEASE….END IT!!!

yOU HAVE TO REALIZE, I DON’T ACCEPT BEING WALKED ALL OVER OR BEING ATTACKED …I JUST DON’T ACCEPT IT. THAT IS MY RIGHT. I AM RESPECTFUL AND I STAY FOCUSSED TO THE CASE..I DON’T THINK I HAVE BROKEN ANY RULES MORALLY OR OTHERWISE..

PLEASE AGAIN..IF YOU CAN’T BE UNBIASED AND STICK TO THE CASE..DON’T READ MY POSTS OR RESPOND THAT GOES FOR TEXAS AS WELL.

SEEM THE TWO OF YOU ARE TALKING FOR OJ…AND YORU THE ONES WITH THE PROBLEM WITH ME ..SHOULD REALLY LET THE ONES DISCUSSING DISCUSS IT BETWEEN IF THERE IS A CONFLICT OF OPINION. YOU GUYS HAVE ONLY MUDDIED UP THE ROOM..

I don’t pull any punches..but I won’t take em..why should I?

Now can we please just leave it alone…you both have said things that aren’t true..i just don’t appreciate it..

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 6:58 pm I think a constant baseless regurgitation of misty is innocent is not only irritating but has no foundation…we all get it..i have nothing against oj..i just think he needs to stop his personal attacks as well as some of you in here on those of us who would like to discuss FACT..and opinions based on fact.

It is obvious he has a dislike for me personally or he wouldn’t bring up my kids..WHY IS THAT Ok? i SIMPLY give my opinion on the case and don’t attack personally…WHAT GIVES HERE IN THIS ROOM ????
texasmommy39 said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:00 pm C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 6:58 pm I think a constant baseless regurgitation of misty is innocent is not only irritating but has no foundation…
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I do not see any difference in your regurgitation of rumors and lies

texasmommy39 said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:03 pm Oj gets hammered every day and practically after every post.

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:09 pm TEXAS..THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU…I WONDER WHY HE GETS HAMMEREED..WHAT DOES HE HAVE FREE REIGN TO SAY WHAT HE WANTS AND HIM ALONE????

YA WANNA TELL ME WHAT RUMOURS I STARTED OR LIES I SIMPLY DISCUSS THE CASE..YOUR NOT BETTER “MOMMY”

YOU HAVE NO BASIS FOR YOUR ATTACK ON ME EITHER ..
IMO YOU JUST REGURGITATED YOUR OWN IGNORANCE IN WHAT IT IS YOU “THINK” YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT …
NEWS FLASH…YOUR BUTTING IN WITH BASLESS RETORIC JUST SHOWS YOU CARE ONLY FOR YOUR LITTLE CLIQUE..NOT HALEIGH..

WHY DON’T YOU ALL JUST LAY OFF ME..THIS IS RIDICULOUS..I HAVE MY OPINIONS AND SO DOES OJ..MIND YOUR OWN BUSNINESS YOUR PART OF THE PROBLEM..

ATTACK ATTACK FOR NO REASON..BACK YOUR MOUTH UP MOMMY IN TEXAS..OR BACK OFF

texasmommy39 said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:16 pm LMAO
I agree, you are mean.

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:21 pm cathy AGAIN..NOT TRUE..TEXAS BUTTED HER NOSE IN WITHOUT BASIS..I RESPONDED..NOT AN ATTACK GIRL

YOU POSTED A RESPONSE TO MINE…WHICH WAS ALSO UNFOUNDED..I DON’T RECALL SAYING ANYTHING TO ANYONE ELSE…SO PLEASE….END IT!!!

yOU HAVE TO REALIZE, I DON’T ACCEPT BEING WALKED ALL OVER OR BEING ATTACKED …I JUST DON’T ACCEPT IT. THAT IS MY RIGHT. I AM RESPECTFUL AND I STAY FOCUSSED TO THE CASE..I DON’T THINK I HAVE BROKEN ANY RULES MORALLY OR OTHERWISE..

PLEASE AGAIN..IF YOU CAN’T BE UNBIASED AND STICK TO THE CASE..DON’T READ MY POSTS OR RESPOND THAT GOES FOR TEXAS AS WELL.

SEEM THE TWO OF YOU ARE TALKING FOR OJ…AND YORU THE ONES WITH THE PROBLEM WITH ME ..SHOULD REALLY LET THE ONES DISCUSSING DISCUSS IT BETWEEN IF THERE IS A CONFLICT OF OPINION. YOU GUYS HAVE ONLY MUDDIED UP THE ROOM..

I don’t pull any punches..but I won’t take em..why should I?

Now can we please just leave it alone…you both have said things that aren’t true..i just don’t appreciate it..
C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:22 pm texas..post my mean post if you dare!!!! We are not in kindergarten lady..go back on the carpet if you can’t play nice.

********************Jan Barrett said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:27 pm **********************
I am going to say this to those involved… if this subject is not dropped we are going to have to start banning people that continue with it. And please consider this a warning. I don’t want it to come back on me that I was unfair to anyone.

If it didn’t concern you to begin with please stay out of it. It is hard to find out who started what when everyone jumps in.

I think we are all a little too sensitive these days. And I advise you all to remember that everyone has their own opinion whether we like it or not. This is not a battle ground for those that want to argue. It is a place to discuss this case.

Jan Barrett

texasmommy39 said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:28 pm You are mean and I do not need to go any where. Maybe you need a break. As far as not responding to you I usually do not and will not in the future.
You have your opinions of a lot of posters obviously and only chat with a few anyways.

texasmommy39 said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:33 pm I just read your post Jan.

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:34 pm cathy I said..i accepted our apology..don’t you read my posts?

texas..I didn’t think you could post one thing that back you up…I don’t have an opinion on “a lot” of posters..I discuss what is brought up by many..I am only trying to be involved and voice an opinion..dont’ advise me..your posts are evident you need the break..BUTTIN YOUR NOSE IN. I have never said a mean thing on this blog nor have i ever really conversed with you. So please have respect if you can’t butt out..

NOW …

texasmommy39 said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:47 pm I guess Jan was only talking to me when she said drop it?

OJ’s glove said,in May 17th, 2010 at 9:58 pm welcome to my nightmare cathy and texmom..

good post jenM

texasmommy39 said,in May 17th, 2010 at 9:58 pm robin said,in May 17th, 2010 at 7:27 pm Texasmommy_Something does not set right with me about the Sheffields. If LE even investigated them, they are sure keeping that tightlipped (except at the farm search), but the Croslin investigation they have made a media field day out of it. Every little tape and video have been nitpicked by every “so called expert” and been regurgitated all over the news.At the beginning my first thought was the Sheffields did this and then the drug arrests and latest search caused me to rethink that scenario. I thought for awhile maybe a stranger abduction, but like the Croslin scenario, I think a body or remains would be found. The only ones that had motive (although a motive does not need to be found it does help an investigation) and means to do this are the Sheffields/Griffis family. Frankly I do not think the Croslins/Cummings could pull this off for 15 months. I might play with other theories like Tommy being the culprit, I do believe the Sheffields theory is the one that makes most sense. I think LE has let them fly under the radar for far too long. JMO
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Sorry robin, I was not trying to ignor your post earlier was a little irritated and needed a break.
IMO I have to disagree with the Sheffield’s flying under PCSO radar.
I have to ask do you really think LE are keeping this close to the vest , since we have seen every tape and heard every audio and been told Misty is the key.
You are correct the obvious seems to be the first and the last place to look. JMO

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 10:05 pm you reap what you sew OJ…you may get away with your crap with your “clique” but I don’t get off on your COPY PASTE B.S SAME VERSE SAME AS THE FIRST..

texasmommy39 said,in May 17th, 2010 at 10:07 pm OJ’s glove said,in May 17th, 2010 at 9:58 pm welcome to my nightmare cathy and texmom..

good post jenM
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I witness it daily. I enjoy your posts!
I should not of said a word though.

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 10:07 pm jason…if you wouldn;t just jump in with your rudeness..READ UP ON THE PREVIOUS POSTS..I’m not yelling at anyone…old news..why do you bother

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 10:09 pm jason fyi…about 2hrs ago..the caps were addressed..do your homework before mouthing off please.

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 10:11 pm texas..post your basis for your accusations or butt out..this has already been addressed by Jan in the meantime..I have asked you to butt out or prove why you say what you do..You CANT’. MOVE ALONG..you go away after jans post and you come back stirring up crap…GET OVER YOURSELF

texasmommy39 said,in May 17th, 2010 at 10:11 pm C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 10:05 pm you reap what you sew OJ…you may get away with your crap with your “clique” but I don’t get off on your COPY PASTE B.S SAME VERSE SAME AS THE FIRST..
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It does not take a “clique” to see what your showing your self to be. I guess I am going to sit on the side lines tonight. I am not trying to give Jan cause to Ban Me.

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 10:12 pm texas..good idea

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 10:14 pm theres’ a difference between getting yourself banned and responding to attacks..not the same thing.

C~A said,in May 17th, 2010 at 10:16 pm texas..I am being who I am..and that includes demanding you prove why you attack me..if you can’t..and you can’t..DON’T ADDRESS ME…I NEVER ADDRESSED YOU..YOU COME OUT SAYING ALL KINDS OF STUFF ABOUT ME…NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND..ONUS IS ON YOU..
********************Wow just give you few hours and I did not have to prove my point, you did. Night yall.

Beast said,in May 17th, 2010 at 10:15 pm texas I dont know what your problem is. Yes OJ has copied and pasted the exact same p[osts over and over .. (I) caught him doing it too and called him on it. If hes honest he will admit it to you. NO we do no appreciate the same stuff copied and pasted again and again. Would you? SO move on you here to fight or discuss the case. Remember HaLeigh?
*******************************ROFLMAO Go read somewhere else if you do not like it.

texas, and you are free to do the same. 🙂

Lynny,I am sure if they wanted Jo,they’d have gotten him by now!

Forgot to mention Pedophiles in the above post.

I mean no disrespect to Jan and Simon who so graciously gives us the space to blog about this beautiful missing child, but I believe these attacks need to stop. I am not a moderator by any means but I have been sitting back reading these posts–which are totally senseless. Jan has sent a warning once, and Simon has threatened to take away the blog altogether. Do I want to lose this blog which I have come to enjoy so much (and because of the differing opinions and theories) because a few go on the defensive and attack someone’s opinion? I say a resounding Hell No! I don’t care if they copy,paste, and post the same opnion every day–It is their opinion and their right to say it. If you don’t like it, skip it and go to the next. By no means am I in a clique, or “cheese”, but I do know basic common courtesy in respecting everyone’s opinion, whether I agree or not! I think this is what this blog was intended for–not the attack forum its become lately. I can honestly say I am here for Haleigh and she is my primary focus. I hope and pray the rest of you can say the same! JMO

also Jem,I’m not a professional..by a far stretch,lol
but if you have a problem to begin with…..and you self medicate,things can go horribly wrong!
I posted an article last night about why family’s murder even and it said that one may not have the intention but certain drugs will cause them to lose it and actually murder?
because before it happens…a person is seen as kind and gentle,but mixed with drugs is capable!

I was entertaining the idea, that Misty went out partying and since she couldn’t get Ron’s mom to keep the kids, she let Joe and came home to a nightmare.

It would make Misty a shmuck but not a murderer, and I could almost see her hiding the real facts from Ron because, well because he was her ticket out and that would make her a…. shmuck.

Whadda ya think?

cathyjo- 1108 Did it post?
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did what post?

lindseys link,myspace?

CathyJo My God now you are being accused of having an affair- wow..! Please don’t take this wrong Cathy- ignore it- nothing good will come of it. If you can have a civil debate with some and they digress to childhood and throw tantrums -just give them a time out. This is your own time don’t give it away to anyone you don’t want to. chin up

Random thoughts, I think that is very possible. I have thought all along that (if thinking Haleigh was harmed) that Misty might of left someone else in charge of the kids while she went to help Tommy find his pills he wanted so bad that night. Remember on the tape he said that without them, he couldn’t function to go to work the next day, and he was out.

so tonight when OJ comes on,if he does…I’ll offer him a smoke and ask if it was as good for him……rofl!

http://www.myspace.com/chelsea_croslin

Jen, I was under the impression that Tommy had been to the Doctor, on the day, that he had been fishing with his son, when Joe allegedly made the comments about the place being like Lake Placid.

So depending on what day this occurred during Joe’s visit – and depending on how fast he goes through a script (Misty said they were trashed)they may have had their dope to get high and why they were all puffed up to steal a gun in the first place.

I am sorry CathyJo. I should of never siad a word, but, I get tired of everyone being mean to OJ.

CathyJo Or maybe the crime happened because they did use their heads. Yikes!

lol Homespain yea! olordy!

you didn’t do nothing wrong,just stood up for yourself,don’t be sorry! not to me,lol

didn’t someone say a person not in Tennessee or was it not in Fl? may be arrested?

thats going a bit far in my opinion Random!

Night y’all. I guese I will see who is banned tomorrow. 🙁

the thing that gets me about the tatoo is think about it , its permanent- Chelsea is permanently marking her body with this tragedy-and her life- which to me proves that she is involved and tatoos (to them ) are memorials so I think that shows she knows that HaLeigh is dead

welcome to my nightmare cathy,texmom and homespain..
no I did not copy and paste the above sentence…
bty, it was my EX wife I visited in prison as I clearly stated..

you’d think of all the hell?? they claimed this has put the family thru,she wouldn’t want a reminder,ya know???
not saying it disrespectful just like you said,Permanent??

you can cc&p whatever you want,lol don’t bother me,i do it alot myself on other things!

goood Homespain,i wondered,lol

its all too weird if you ask me!

can you believe chelsea is trying to sell that letter?

how am i sposed to know! lol

homespain-
on Misty’s Putnum court records they listed 3 diff depositions for wednesday of this week,they list 3 law enforcement officers , I was just curious of your thoughts on that

Worse than tacky,why would she do that? a little girl missing possibly gone forever,and shes gonna make money off it..omg

omg i hopeeeeeee not

She said before that Misty couldn’t read? and Hank said she sent him a letter like it but he threw it away?

what makes the letter so valuable?

HANK CROSLIN: You`re still beautiful.

MISTY CROSLIN: I know. I try to be beautiful. It`s hard to be beautiful in here. You got to make yourself look beautiful in this place.

Thank You Robin,For saying so…..I didn’t really get worked up till i saw that!
No need to apologize to me tho,it wasn’t your fault but i know you mean too you’re sorry she did it,and thats bad to do.I dunno how people can just up and do that without thought at all,its mean!
But i learned something from it,I don’t trust anyone like that,ya know!!!!!!!

Stop talking about it…..Let’s talk about Haleigh, K?

I don’t understand tho Robin,are we supposed to come here and not speak?
why do people hate it when you become friends? Ya know,I thought that was a good thing!

Jeeez Thats sad……sell a letter?

Hank said he got one and tore it up and i thought ruuro!
Need it for the car? thats bs! need it cuz it happens to be something that will sell??

911 call:

911:” ok- what color hair? Brown hair?”

Misty Croslin: “Yes…oh my gosh….”

911: “OK- how tall is she about? Or how much does she weigh…do you know that?”

Misty Croslin: “huh?”

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I think where Misty says “Oh My Gosh”, I think Ron might of been loading his gun. What do you think? I also think he pinched her or twisted her arm or something when she squeals like he is hurting her. Listen to the tape again.

nite Homespain!!

Thats true OJ but as you know these people are not the most media savvy lol

I don’t know about Misty being deposed, where is it coming from?

If true, the first thing that came to my mind is they are wanting to get sealed reacords of Joe’s unsealed.

As, long as Tennessee doesn’t expunge (destroy) if a crime has been committed, they can possibly be unsealed.

Hmmmmmm……

HANK CROSLIN: They don`t believe you, what you`re telling them, huh?

MISTY CROSLIN: I don`t know what they believe and what they don`t. They don`t tell me anything. When I get out of here, I`ll tell you what they think, OK?

HANK CROSLIN: What, your lawyer don`t want them to give you a lie detector test?

MISTY CROSLIN: No, we were going to do it, but I just didn`t have enough sleep, and the lady that was going to do it didn`t. I don`t know. We were going to do it, but — I don`t know.

HANK CROSLIN: I know because Stephen Brown was trying to get Tommy one, but he didn`t want them guys to do it. He wants somebody that he knows that can run one good.

MISTY CROSLIN: None of them can run them good.

HANK CROSLIN: They say — I`ve heard a couple people say it just depends on who`s running them.

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Random,Sealed records unsealed,how do yall learn this stuff……sheeesh!
I feel like an idiot! LoL

nite cathy- i was signing off, and saw my last post said (relating x3). So yup time for bed.

Saw yur post in the conversation about misty getting money, with the message . I thought exactly what you said and just burst out laughing!!!

none of them can run good?

LoL homespain,OJ!

CathyJo63 said,in May 18th, 2010 at 12:56 am TOMMY CROSLIN: So they`ve been sending her money, huh? People have been sending her money left and right, I heard.

LISA CROSLIN: Yes. Some guy wrote a letter, and it had your address on Tyler but her inmate number. And it said, I know you`re totally innocent. You`re so beautiful. Hang in there. Keep your head up. I will do whatever I can. I`ll send money every week. So I sent her the letter. I don`t know if she called him or not.

OMG OJ,did you send her that?? rofl
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wheres that audio clip cathy?
thanks

LoL ME TOO

Random Thoughts said,in May 18th, 2010 at 1:05 am O.J. this second letter supposedly has goes into more detail about what happened that night.
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thank you..its tough seperating fact from fiction..

Hmmmmm I’d like to see that Random!

CathyJo63 said,in May 18th, 2010 at 1:08 am The manuscript OJ??
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sure, thats will work too..
thanks

yw OJ,i didn’t have the audio….just manuscript.
you taught me how to post the links so they will post,lol tho i still forget sometimes,lol

Where are you all finding the info about a possible deposition?

gnite OJ!