On February 10, 2009 a little 5 year old child from Florida was reported as abducted in the middle of the night from her home in Satsuma. That night started a nightmare for lots of people.
Today, May 27, 2010 we still do not know where little Haleigh Cummings is nor do we know the truth about what happened to this precious little girl that has won the hearts of people from across the world.
This case seems to cover everything but what it should be covering from the beginning. What happened to Haleigh?
Along the line we have learned who is sleeping with who, who is spending money that they don’t have, who has a job, who doesn’t, who makes their money off the state and who has an honest job, or at least who is trying to get an honest job.
We have heard about who is addicted to pills and apparently who is dealing with drugs as well. We hear conversations between the people involved up to their ears in the case cutting each other’s throats. We all complain that listening to the jailhouse tapes aren’t helping us find Haleigh, yet we all want to hear the tapes anyway.
We hear so many different versions about what happened from the same ones. Has Misty Croslin told the truth in any of her versions? Has Tommy Croslin told the truth? Pick your favorite version and go along with it until a better one comes along that makes more sense. Has Crystal Sheffield told everything she knows? Has her mother, Marie Griffis told everything she knows? Has Ronald Cummings or Teresa Neves or Annette Sykes told any truth?
The fact remains that we don’t know. None of this is helping us find Haleigh. We all bicker because someone says this or someone says that which is totally opposite from what we think happened. Does this help find Haleigh? NO it doesn’t.
Does destroying people’s life help? For instance, take Hank and Lisa Croslin. Neither of them had anything to do with Haleigh missing, yet they are paying a high price for it now just because of their children being involved. I am sure neither of them is very proud to admit that they are now broke, jobless and homeless as well. They are being forced to live in a homeless shelter because they can’t seem to get a job anywhere. They can’t leave the state because they are both on probation so they have no choice.
OK I admit Hank and Lisa may not have been parents that deserve “Parents of the Year†awards but at least Hank did seem to hold a job before all this came down and before his unfortunate auto accident. If you were to believe Misty’s story at one time, you would think Hank and Lisa were terrible parents. According to what she says it sounded as though they were abusive parents. They didn’t force her to go to school, they allowed her to live with a man that had three children already and then later allowed her to marry the man. Yet when they visit Misty all you hear is how much they love each other. Tell me, does this sound like a family that never got along before?
Personally I know how it is to be a rebellious child. I left home at 16 and there was nothing my parents could do to stop me other than to sit on top of me and hold me down to keep me from running away. My parents were good people and hard workers that were raising five kids and they did the best they could with us. I turned out OK once I finally came to my senses, but I learned the hard way as did my sister, who is no longer with us. It wasn’t because my parents didn’t care. It was because we didn’t care enough about them or anyone else but ourselves. I was never abused at home but I was determined to do what I wanted to do. Oh how I regret to this day putting my parents through the hell they went through because of my brothers and sister and I, but they still stand by us no matter what.
My point in all this is that as easy as it is to blame the parents for not being the best parents, we can’t always blame them. Hank and Lisa did not hit the cameras the minute their son and daughter got involved in all this. They haven’t done like George and Cindy Anthony have done. They refused to talk to the media. They didn’t want the publicity, but yet they were drawn into all this because of Tommy and Misty Croslin’s involvement in Haleigh’s disappearance.
Hank and Lisa appear to love their kids unconditionally. They both know their kids are going to have to do time for their part in this drug deal but until they know the truth they are not denying that Misty and Tommy know something about Haleigh being gone. They hold it in their hearts that neither of them could have possibly harmed Haleigh, but that is because they love their children regardless and no one wants to think their kids could do such a thing. At least they are not out there fighting with reporters over it. They are like us. They are sitting back waiting for the truth to come out no matter what that truth is. They are begging their children to please just tell the truth and put an end to all this.
Hank finally spoke out with Cindy Swirko, from Gainesville.com. I find it an interesting story and it will give you food for thought.
Will any of this help us find Haleigh? I think that the only way it will is if the one responsible finally confesses. To be honest how are we to believe Tommy after we hear him tell his wife and his father different version of what happened that night. Then we have Misty doing the same thing with her Dad not to mention the letters she supposedly wrote. Then we have Haleigh’s father, Ronald Cummings cutting a deal with the DA to get a lesser sentence if he testifies against Tommy and Misty. Why do they even need his testimony if they were clearly all caught on tape in the drug bust?
My question is who do we believe? Let’s pray that one day we will know the truth about what really happened, or at least I hope we will. We might never know. Haleigh where ever you are America waits for you to be found or for at least the truth to come out and then you will be able to get the justice you so rightfully deserve.
Jan Barrett
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Great article Jan. It is so right on to how
I feel about these Croslins. I don’t know weather to laugh or cry when I listen. My heart
does go out to Hank and Lisa I can’t imagine my
kids being involved in something like this. I
would be the next one on drugs and a bottle if
it was my kids.
A very well written article. I pray that it is found on what happened to Our Beautiful little Angel.
I still feel all the answers lye in Satsuma with the key players that are incarcerated. I hope that LE will finally find the right tactic to get the answers that they need so Haleigh gets the JUSTICE she is desrved.
Jan, I appreciate all that you and Simon do to help us find out about what is going on with Haleigh’search.I hope I’m wrong but I think she is in heaven with God.If she is atleast she isn’t suffering anymore.I love my family so much.I would fight to the death for them. I know you would too. Thanks for everything.
I have been thinking the same thing-
Last night I posted on AH.com in response tohis article, but my comment is still awaiting moderation- I will post it here too, this is in response to an ARTHARRIS.COM article:
This article is so offensive that I am ALMOST speechless. I had to go back and read it a second time to make sure I understood that it was in fact a response/rebuttal correct a misinformed statement made by a family member of a missing child.
This article is condescending, arrogant, and distasteful.
Had a member of the Holloway family or Smart family mad a similarly misinformed statement, would you have had the same haughty response?
Your not a “whacked out blogger”, your a journalist, an investigative reporter, doesn’t that indicate that you adhere to some professional standards of journalistic integrity?
I am a social worker, some clients I work with behave very badly, and demonstrate many of the characteristics that have made this case so, so, …frustrating and some of my clients consistently strive for self improvement and to live with moral integrity. Regardless of my clients behavior, I treat them all with the same level of respect. I would think, as a journalist, you have covered some crazy people, stories, and cases. The subject and people you cover must all have issues to different degrees, their dysfunction or success should not impact or alter the level of respect you show an individual.
I don’t care that Hank has a drug history, limited education, and is even more limited economically, he is a family member of a missing child. His life is forever altered, possibly at the hands of his own child, he is clearly struggling, yet you took the opportunity to write a patronizing article overflowing with jabs and cheeky, tit for tat comments.
Furthermore, Hank may have been misinformed about you being responsible for a “lesbian” expose on Misty(why is lesbian in “quotes”?), but it is clear your not above such crap.
“…we reported that we never did –that his daughter had
engaged in “lesbian” activities….
Hank, we can reassure you we’ve never written any such
thing. Misty’s sex life is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay down on our
list, unless it can shed light on her activities….”
You should have stopped right there, but you didn’t. You went on and on about Misty’s sexual liaisons and the possible pregnancy with questionable paternity, seriously, why?
“We did, in fact, report exclusively about her three
wild days in Feb., 2009 of sex, drugs and revenge
romance with “White Boy” Greg Paige, after her then
boyfriend, Ronald Cummings, beat her up and kicked her
to the curb, suspecting she was pregnant with someone
else’s baby.
“…when she decided to go back to him, and snuck in a
call, he instructed her to bring condoms.”
I wonder if the condoms will lead us to Haleigh?
“Maybe that’s more than you wanted to know”
Maybe? Maybe, yeah Maybe more than a dad wants to know about his child, more than we need to know about a stranger. Obviously, this was not written for case clues, why was it written at all?
“…we just wanted to set the record straight for
Hank.”
Thank goodness your so dedicated to setting the record straight, that exactly what sets journalist apart from the “whacked out blogger”.
Gosh Jan this is a very heartfelt post. I pray that the truth will come out and Haleigh’s mystery will be solved.
As for these families putting their lives back together I don’t think they have learned anything. Hank and Lisa are no George and Cindy! I do know that much. It’s just so very sad for the children. Adults make their own beds but children have no choice.
Great post, Jan.
I feel empathy for Hank and Lisa, too. They are flawed people, but have been given a bum deal in this case. I give Hank, especially, credit for attempting to pry the truth out of his children. He obviously loves them, in his own misguided way. And his heart is so broken, as is Lisa’s, I’m sure. He knows his children are flawed, too, like he is, but longs for them to be innocent in the Haleigh case,even though he seems to have doubts of their innocence. He knows they must do the time for the drug charges. That alone would be heart-breaking for any parent, to not be able to even hug your children. We should definitely keep Hank & Lisa in our prayers. They’ve made a litany of mistakes in their parenting and in their personal lives, but they are still human beings who need to find hope somewhere. They are not hopeless, as some people indicate. I would really like to see a good counselor step up to the plate here and help them through this. It is not going to be easy.
LFJ, I agree with you completely. Have thought so from the begining.
this case feels very much like a bunh of bullies, who relentlessly torment those they perceive as weaker.
Great article Jan.
This is such a sad story. And we will probably never know what really happened to lil Haleigh. I pray for her safe return every night. I wished someone would tell the truth. Now Misty is saying that the LE put words in her mouth and making it sound like Ron had something to do with it. But the next time she speaks she will probably say she was just dreaming that Ron was at the door that night.
Why haven’t the tapes that SillyGirl was talking about been posted yet? Just wonderin
looking for Justice said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
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Agreed!
Great article, Jan.
I am wondering too,TracyM.
Great article! I pray there is a resolution to this case soon!
AH Makes me so dang mad!
wth is he? who does he THINK he is,its obvious he did it because Hank figured out he was only after a story,my comments are in mod over there now but i know he’d never allowed Hanks in mod before he posted to put another kink in his waterhose!
By the way, everyone should be commending Hank Sr. for trying to get the truth out, if its his kid(s) who did it or not, he wants to know the truth!
Great article at Gainesville newspaper too.
Great link. Thanks Jan
vaquera said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Great article, Jan.
I am wondering too,TracyM.
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Thanks for responding Vaquera. I guess I’ll check back later. Its almost like there is a conspiracy to not release them or something. 🙂
Little Bear said,in May 27th, 2010 at 12:38 pm Great post, Jan.
I feel empathy for Hank and Lisa, too. They are flawed people, but have been given a bum deal in this case. I give Hank, especially, credit for attempting to pry the truth out of his children. He obviously loves them, in his own misguided way. And his heart is so broken, as is Lisa’s, I’m sure. He knows his children are flawed, too, like he is, but longs for them to be innocent in the Haleigh case,even though he seems to have doubts of their innocence. He knows they must do the time for the drug charges. That alone would be heart-breaking for any parent, to not be able to even hug your children. We should definitely keep Hank & Lisa in our prayers. They’ve made a litany of mistakes in their parenting and in their personal lives, but they are still human beings who need to find hope somewhere. They are not hopeless, as some people indicate. I would really like to see a good counselor step up to the plate here and help them through this. It is not going to be easy.
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yea lil bear and by a big ugly balg stupid lookin guy whose not even close to being a worm! AH is like a school bullly!!!!!!
Even if Hanks doped up he’ll be sober tomorrow but AH will be mean and ugly the rest of his life…..imo
OPgirl, I agree.
I don’t care if you’re drop deag gorgeous,attitude makes ya ugly!!!!!!!
TracyM said,in May 27th, 2010 at 12:45 pm Why haven’t the tapes that SillyGirl was talking about been posted yet? Just wonderin
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yea well,i am getting my shoes and coat now and i’m gonna go to her door,lol seriously tho i can’t wait!
Thinking AH wants NG’s job! Somebody needs to take over but not him!
Tracy, we thought we had all of them published but we are checking on it now to see if we possibly missed one. There were several of them released at the time and we did rush to get them all published so maybe we did forget one. We are trying to find out now. If we missed one we will get it published as soon as we find it.
Jan Barrett
Instead of putting up a nice article in Haleighs name for this holiday AH chooses to degrade the people who AREN’T EVEN GUILTY OF A DANG THANG….whats that tell ya??
Hank and Lisa are broke, homeless and jobless because Hank was in an auto accident and accident and is crippled now needing operations he can not afford and in constant pain. Nobody is going to hire him in that condition and he admits he can’t do hard labor. The fact he was in that accident in a car with no insurance to cover injuries has nothing to do with the case of Haleigh.
Lisa is in trouble for stealing a gun and forging a check and stealing a purse at Walmart that has nothing to do with the Haleigh case.
They are both drug abusers and probably not able to pass a urine test for any job and that has nothing to do with the Haleigh case.
Now they are heartbroken because their children are in jail and that probably does have to do with the Haleigh case but that does not have any bearing on the dire straits they find themselves in now.
Their life has been destroyed by their own poor choices.
yea lil bear and by a big ugly balg stupid lookin guy whose not even close to being a worm! AH is like a school bullly!!!!!!
Even if Hanks doped up he’ll be sober tomorrow but AH will be mean and ugly the rest of his life…..imo
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So true
Jan,Its not you,we’d be wanting them even if they came from Baldy over there but we are anxious,sorry for the pressure i know i attribute to putting on ya! don’t mean it though! We just wanna hear em’
Oh and btw… there is no conspiracy from us to hold back any of the tapes. We release them as we receive them.
Jan Barrett
I’d like to see ole Hank and Lisa replace AH and Ng! roflmao now theres a thought!!!!!!!!!!!
Hank Harris and Lisa Grace.wooooohooooo
sounds better already!
Jan Barrett said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Tracy, we thought we had all of them published but we are checking on it now to see if we possibly missed one. There were several of them released at the time and we did rush to get them all published so maybe we did forget one. We are trying to find out now. If we missed one we will get it published as soon as we find it.
Jan Barrett
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Jan, sillygirl said it was a tape of Lindsy/Tommy after she got back from MA and after Tommy took the LDT test and Lindsy was very PO’d
dr. fessel said,in May 27th, 2010 at 1:01 pm Hank and Lisa are broke, homeless and jobless because Hank was in an auto accident and accident and is crippled now needing operations he can not afford and in constant pain. Nobody is going to hire him in that condition and he admits he can’t do hard labor. The fact he was in that accident in a car with no insurance to cover injuries has nothing to do with the case of Haleigh.
Lisa is in trouble for stealing a gun and forging a check and stealing a purse at Walmart that has nothing to do with the Haleigh case.
They are both drug abusers and probably not able to pass a urine test for any job and that has nothing to do with the Haleigh case.
Now they are heartbroken because their children are in jail and that probably does have to do with the Haleigh case but that does not have any bearing on the dire straits they find themselves in now.
Their life has been destroyed by their own poor choices.
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Exactly so lets kick em some more….hittem while they’re down!..they tick me off,ah and n/g are crap!
*****CATHYJO******************
I finally got chance to go to youtube to see the tatoo video; (have water leak in wall, been dealing with that)
DID U WATCH WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE?
I hope u didn’t cuz I want to see ur reaction.
I laughed so loud, my neighbors heard me.
type in Ronald Cummings welcome to the jungle
it’s by LLM papa
3jayhawks said,in May 27th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
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amen to your comment
It doesn’t help that Lisa has a mother that constantly tries to throw her and here under the bus.She tells so many stories that she doesn’t remember which one she told last.
cathyJo,
you are so funny……Love it
oh yea i saw it along time ago but i didn’t think it was funny,it angered me…jmo
I don’t like threats of violence period!
Hank needs to remember this too shall pass. One day, at least he and his wife will be able to move on.
I will Not watch NG anymore. I mean it. I am so sick of her.
I will come here to get my information and views. The people on this site are so informative and fair.
thanks Jan and Simon
exactly Nnc,i get more here myself!without making her billfold fatter!
dr. fessel,
Their lives have not been destroyed. They are still alive. Still have hope. Still can change their ways. They need help. Not money. Not drugs. Not enabling.
If you look at past posts, you’ll see that I believe, more than likely, all three of their children played some part in this, whether small or large. So, if this is true, Hank and Lisa could encounter massive depression issues. Yes, they will have to evaluate their bad choices. Yes, they will have to admit that if they were better parents, their children might not be in this mess. But all is not lost for Hank & Lisa. They have grandchildren that will be able to see how they handle this from now on. They COULD play a part, from now on, helping their grandchildren not see any part of this lifestyle.
Their lives look grim right now. Even appear to be destroyed. But they are still alive. People can change. They need to help themselves, but they also need help (a good counselor and a good support system).
Nanc,if you think I’m funny now wait till ya see my face,lol
CathyJo63 said,in May 27th, 2010 at 1:16 pm Nanc,if you think I’m funny now wait till ya see my face,lol
————————————–send me a pic. Do you live in Tennessee? I think i saw that. I live in Dandridge.
LittleBear,you said it right there,not they can’t erase whats done but knowing whats happened because of all the mistakes in their lives they could start a new generation,a sober croslin with happy grandbabies!!!!!!!!!
you live in dandridge????????
Yea
oh sorry,I don’t have a pic,my scanners broke but wait till ya have a bad day and it’ll cheer ya up then cause you’ll be like Oh Thank God,i could’ve looked like that!lol
no, can’t be. You’re pretty on the inside
If I didnt think the money would go to Misty or Tommys commisary or phone minutes I would send Hank and Lisa some money!
Grandma of 5 said,in May 27th, 2010 at 1:08 pm It doesn’t help that Lisa has a mother that constantly tries to throw her and here under the bus.She tells so many stories that she doesn’t remember which one she told last.
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so true,exactly Grandmaof5,
when your own mother don’t care my goodness!!!!!!!!!
aw Nanc,Thank you for that!
That i wouldn’t care to claim,lol
aw Nanc,Thank you for that!
That i wouldn’t care to claim,lol
CathyJo63
I was not addressing what AH or NG did. Jan said in her article why she thought Hank and Lisa’s were paying a high price because of the Haleigh case and I was just disagreeing with her.
What Art and Nancy have done is horrible but I don’t think it has anything to do with where Hank and Lisa find themselves now.
huh? why am i lost,I didn’t say nuttin bad about you?? lol
Art isn’t going to say anything nice about Chrystal, Misty,or their families.Miz Nancy wouldn’t like that.It might look bad for Ron. Wasn’t Hank working before the accident? Tommy and Lindsy probably spent what money he made.They are very selfish. I do feel sorry for HC & Lisa.
With the people who were in charge of this child when she went missing and they are liars, why does this reporter keep harping on Crystal Sheffield? Shes the grieving mother of a dead child and I know it probably satisfies about 2 of the readers here, but let it go, Crystals fam had nothing to do with this, so can the fantasy reporting stop? Look at the facts, I know its hard since none of it points to Crystal, but how about being in this story for HaLeigh (sentence deleted)
I know its hard because Simon has to deal with a wife who is a hard core Ronette for whatever reason, but its so sick that you put Crystal and Marie before Ron and Teresa and the people who lost this child.
Get smart Simon.
Dr f,
Good post.
Its sad but true.
Little Bear said,in May 27th, 2010 at 1:15 pm dr. fessel,
Their lives have not been destroyed. They are still alive. Still have hope. Still can change their ways. They need help. Not money. Not drugs. Not enabling.
If you look at past posts, you’ll see that I believe, more than likely, all three of their children played some part in this, whether small or large. So, if this is true, Hank and Lisa could encounter massive depression issues. Yes, they will have to evaluate their bad choices. Yes, they will have to admit that if they were better parents, their children might not be in this mess. But all is not lost for Hank & Lisa. They have grandchildren that will be able to see how they handle this from now on. They COULD play a part, from now on, helping their grandchildren not see any part of this lifestyle.
Their lives look grim right now. Even appear to be destroyed. But they are still alive. People can change. They need to help themselves, but they also need help (a good counselor and a good support system).
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I was referring to lilbears comment
Lenora said,in May 27th, 2010 at 1:24 pm With the people who were in charge of this child when she went missing and they are liars, why does this reporter keep harping on Crystal Sheffield? Shes the grieving mother of a dead child and I know it probably satisfies about 2 of the readers here, but let it go, Crystals fam had nothing to do with this, so can the fantasy reporting stop? Look at the facts, I know its hard since none of it points to Crystal, but how about being in this story for HaLeigh and not reporting about crap like, (sentence deleted by editor)
I know its hard because Simon has to deal with a wife who is a hard core Ronette for whatever reason, but its so sick that you put Crystal and Marie before Ron and Teresa and the people who lost this child.
Get smart Simon.
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you are an idiot!!!!!!!
so you think cs was a good mom having Chloe born with drugs in her system,
wake up and smell the sheff crap!
grieving mother? /me stares ahead!
when somebody reminded her of it yea,jmo
but thats your opinion so roll with it!
soomeone to come in a blog and put the owners down,has to be an idiot!
maybe if the “mother” had had custody from get go?
I care about HaLeigh, not what Crystal Sheffield did in her past, or do you want to talk about the other severely disabled child Ronald Cummings has with Amber Brooks, what is the common denominator with these sick disabled kids? Oh thats right, Ronald Cummings, the “man” who hit a pregnant Crystal in the head when she found him snorting coke.
I am surprised to find out his coked out sperm could even swim, truth be told, thats the only thing that “werks” on him!
Lenora said,in May 27th, 2010 at 1:24 pm With the people who were in charge of this child when she went missing and they are liars, why does this reporter keep harping on Crystal Sheffield? Shes the grieving mother of a dead child and I know it probably satisfies about 2 of the readers here, but let it go, Crystals fam had nothing to do with this, so can the fantasy reporting stop? Look at the facts, I know its hard since none of it points to Crystal, but how about being in this story for HaLeigh and not reporting about crap like, (Sentence deleted by editor)
I know its hard because Simon has to deal with a wife who is a hard core Ronette for whatever reason, but its so sick that you put Crystal and Marie before Ron and Teresa and the people who lost this child.
Get smart Simon.
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My God whats wrong with you,youure the only one i ever heard say that and im here day and night! so now apply your comment to YOURSELF!
ohhhhhhhhhh i get it,
Everybody wave to Mg!
i aint a fan of rons hunny!!!!!!!!
I’m totally a Haleigh fan!
I don’t need you to do my thinkin’
CJ63,If I had a mother like gh I probably would have got married younger than 17.lol
after barging in with the words and insults you used here,i highly doubt i’ll ever consider one word that comes from your mouth! and thats my last words to you! mgimo
It sure takes Art Harris a long long time to moderate a comment.
mine was a good mother and i got married at 15,lol shotgun style tho,lol
WERE IS HALEIGH? BLESS HER HEART TODAY TOM AND THE NEXT DAY..THANKS SIMON AND ALL WHO HAVE KEPT IT IN THE MEDIA WHEN THERE ON LE MAY HAVE JUST LET IT GO.
you’re a nasty person Lenora!
yea cause he wont post it,lol
CathyJo63 said,in May 27th, 2010 at 1:41 pm you’re a nasty person Lenora
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Ditto
he didn’t mine last yr but ohh he wrote me an email tho,personally,lol AH emailed a granny in tn!
you’re living proof loons lurk here,i thought it was simons wife who made it bad,now off to play in rubbish Lenora,i mean mgimo………..
She was the victim of a perfect storm of drugs and all the negatives that abuse of drugs does to families.
gotchaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa youre really a CathyJo lurker who hides behiond a mask,hahaaaaaaaa
CathyJo63 said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
ohhhhhhhhhh i get it,
Everybody wave to Mg!
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Wave
seems you care about what i do ALOT!
Now off scat!!!!!!!!!! not another word from me and if u choose to look like a bigger nut than you do now,go for it,i got all day!
jaba said,in May 27th, 2010 at 1:43 pm She was the victim of a perfect storm of drugs and all the negatives that abuse of drugs does to families.
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Ty Jaba!
Wow! What a day! I see we have a new blogger!
Jan wonderful article! Thanks for the link to Hanks interveiw also!
It might just be me but IMVHO the only person(s) responsible for all of the speculating that has been going on regarding any single one of the persons associated with this case is the person(s) responsible for Haleigh’s disappearance.
If the truth had been told from the very beginning then there would be no room to speculate.
jmo
I would hardly classify Jan as a hard core Ronnette – she always appears objective to me which includes presenting all possible scenarios. I seldom see posts that are ugly like you mentioned (I won’t repeat your quote about Misty) but we usually ignore it.
always when things don’t look good for the other side Karri,lol
Also 3jayhawks I LOVED your post to AH! I am sure it will never be posted on his site, but way to let him have it!
ew good point Tuff!
Cathy, ignore her
Wonderful point Tuff Stuff!
My heart pumps piss for you.goodday!
i izzzz,but ya don’t brng up sexual abuse in my corner when ya don’t have a clue and expect me to take it,
but yea thats the last comment!
Hey folks, Simon is the one who ran with a story about Mistys “p*ssy” are we not supposed to talk about his articles here? Didn’t he publish that on this site, I mean lets set aside that vulgar story really has nothing to do with Mistys body part, but then again, maybe it really does, its probably because of Mistys vagina this all happened anyways, because had she not been out screwing Greg Page, and you know damn well Ron was fing livid about that, maybe Ron wouldnt have raged out and hit and killed HaLeigh.
So maybe Simons story had some merit, but dont jump on my ass acting like I wrote it in the first place.
I rest my case,another finger behind a mask Guys!
I meant HaLeigh going missing, typo, I am not as perfect as Queen Cathyjo666
This new finger pointing is very misdirected imvho.
could someone knock that len person off that is some nasty foul mouthed person..lenora where is haleigh? im new here but thats a bully if i ever saw one..
wonder when the other tapes come??
Sotrue,it happens everytime you mention a sheff being involved,lol
cj63,
Jan said she was looking to see if she missed one, she thought she had released all of them.
I reported yesterday about a supposed drug and sex fest that Misty Croslin was involved in a couple of days ago. For those of you not familiar with the name Misty Croslin, she was the babysitter of Haleigh Cummings, and also supposedly the last person to see the little girl before her disappearance on Feb 9/10 of 2009.
Through an intermediary I have obtained some more details of this sex and drugs binge.
The host was one Charles Jones, a man with a somewhat colorful background. Reports are claiming that he was found guilty on an arson charge, and is very much involved in the drug scene in Palatka. So involved that he is the ‘go to’ guy for them.
The story I was told goes like this. A buyer arrived to find Charles Jones, another unnamed male, and Misty Croslin smoking
bet i no what site that lenoras from ..can spot them a mile away.they get bounced from other sites and here they are.
ty Karri,silly said some were coming?
Misty Croslin – Tales From The Gutter
I reported yesterday about a supposed drug and sex fest that Misty Croslin was involved in a couple of days ago. For those of you not familiar with the name Misty Croslin, she was the babysitter of Haleigh Cummings, and also supposedly the last person to see the little girl before her disappearance on Feb 9/10 of 2009.
Through an intermediary I have obtained some more details of this sex and drugs binge.
The host was one Charles Jones, a man with a somewhat colorful background. Reports are claiming that he was found guilty on an arson charge, and is very much involved in the drug scene in Palatka. So involved that he is the ‘go to’ guy for them.
The story I was told goes like this. A buyer arrived to find Charles Jones, another unnamed male, and Misty Croslin smoking a ‘blunt’. The buyer was taken into the bedroom where Charles long time girlfriend was asleep on the bed. The drug transaction was concluded and they returned to the living room where Misty and this unnamed Black man were ‘Making out’. Charles allegedly remarked “She’s got a tight pu***, and I’m next”.
The buyer hung around, and while Misty was doing her thing, the buyer and Charles Jones snorted some crushed up pills and smoked a couple of ‘blunts’. Charles then took Misty to the bedroom, (don’t forget the sleeping girlfriend). The buyer openly admitted that he hung around hoping for his turn, but when the two appeared again after some 20 minutes, the draw of cocaine was bigger than his sex drive. Cocaine was in, Misty was out!
This has shades of deja-vu about the weekend prior to Haleigh Cummings disappearance.
I can not confirm this, but apparently there is another party is scheduled tonight. At least one source is claiming that Misty Croslin’s birthday is right around now. Is this going to be a drug and sex birthday party?
We are still digging on this story, and there are many questions that remain unanswered, not least of which is the name of the unknown black man that Misty was ‘making out’ with.
As more information rolls in, I will update you all.
Simon Barrett
I hope there is a support group for CathyJo666 when she finds out Crystal didn’t abduct and kill HaLeigh over child support, which is by far the dumbest thing I have ever heard, but if you are working on minimal brain cells, like CathyJo666 then these kind of things make sense to a few sick few, people who have actually been diagnosed with Schizophrenia, but CathyJo666 already this.
I would personally like to see Simon Barrett cover this case as a reporter and expose the Cummings family, because there is a huge story there, from how did Teresa get there in light speed, how about the 911 call that has been enhanced and you can hear someone else in that trailer that night. Please Simon stop catering to the bored hateful housewives, you said you were here for HaLeigh, how about discussing the issues that happened that night and blow this story open, lets see you on Nancy Grace! Hell, even Levi Page got on JVM!
lmbo SoTrue,me toooooooo,lol
Simon did not make the comment,he posted the article,!
goes to show you are ignorant,rofl……..
thats far from what i believe,i have believed alot WAS true! growup!
Lenora,
I agree CS’s background has nothing to do with Haleighs disappearance that we know of.
We haven’t seen all the evidence but I don’t see anything other than awful behavior, imo, after the fact. But I don’t know these folks, I can only go by what I see.
We are all just trying to make sense of this, and, to be honest, its addicting for me because I’d love to see an outcome one way or another.
For every suspect I have I can make a case for their innocence because I don’t have the direct facts.
I have no dog in this fight, but want an answer for Haleigh. A little 40 pound, harmless helpless little girl that someone has probably killed. I hope not. But I’m a realist.
Its hard to be objective with any of these people from what we’ve seen and heard of their life.
Its also hard fro people not to get emotionally involved with all of this.
They come here and meet like minded people and some not so like minded, and grow to want and need the comradry. Its all good. Its a choice for those wishing to take it to the next level, so to speak.
None of us really is accountable to anything we say or that we say we will do because at the time we were emotionally charged. Looks like to me it passes when its thought through.
Its all good!
brb guys do sommin to get rid of these fleas in here!
Lenora said,in May 27th, 2010 at 2:02 pm I hope there is a support group for CathyJo666 when she finds out Crystal didn’t abduct and kill HaLeigh over child support, which is by far the dumbest thing I have ever heard, but if you are working on minimal brain cells, like CathyJo666 then these kind of things make sense to a few sick few, people who have actually been diagnosed with Schizophrenia, but CathyJo666 already this.
I would personally like to see Simon Barrett cover this case as a reporter and expose the Cummings family, because there is a huge story there, from how did Teresa get there in light speed, how about the 911 call that has been enhanced and you can hear someone else in that trailer that night. Please Simon stop catering to the bored hateful housewives
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from how did Teresa get there in light speed, how about the 911 call that has been enhanced and you can hear someone else in that trailer that night. ***************************
see we had common ground right there but your insults blew that!
The person(s) who are either lying, responsible and/or holding back information about Haleigh’s whereabouts are the only persons have caused all of the continued speculation about any of these people associated with this case.
SO many people have concern for this little girl and this case will continue to be investigated and talked about until Haleigh Cummings is found.
Thank you for your heartfelt article Jan.
CathyJo666 then these kind of things make sense to a few sick few, people who have actually been diagnosed with Schizophrenia, but CathyJo666 already this.
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Oh Thank God,then it is just a voice in my head!
Oh statement analysis Seamus O’Riley has new article up today. Is The End Near For Misty And Company? http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010_05_01_archive.html
dr. fessel said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
CathyJo63
I was not addressing what AH or NG did. Jan said in her article why she thought Hank and Lisa’s were paying a high price because of the Haleigh case and I was just disagreeing with her.
What Art and Nancy have done is horrible but I don’t think it has anything to do with where Hank and Lisa find themselves now.
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makes sense.
OPgirl said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
By the way, everyone should be commending Hank Sr. for trying to get the truth out, if its his kid(s) who did it or not, he wants to know the truth
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you’re right Op girl
Teresa had to already be up to have achance to get there in her timeframe, right?
Doent mean much, but from a dead sleep to dressed and in a car and to the MH speeding all the way is best case scenario for her timing.
right Homespain,it doesn’t so why not a nice article for the holdiday instead of a jab at someone who we know did not do this!
how does that help Haleigh?
CathyJo666, didnt you just say, now scroll up and look, that you were done with me and you would not be responding to me at all? You just cant help yourself, another sign of manicness, I honestly hope you are taking care of yourself, and yes I am talking about your health. You erratic behavior is very troublesome!
And Jaba, I totally agree with your post, and totally understand. I guess it goes both ways because here we have this missing child, who was in the care of two people who are now in jail accused of dealing drugs, and one is lying and failing polys, but some want to ignore all of that, and point to Crystal Sheffield and her family. I honestly don’t get that, to me, people who are ignoring the disgusting actions and lies of the people around HaLeigh when she disappeared, shows me that they arent here for HaLeigh and finding out what happened to her, and thats very upsetting.
homespain said,in May 27th, 2010 at 2:15 pm OPgirl said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
By the way, everyone should be commending Hank Sr. for trying to get the truth out, if its his kid(s) who did it or not, he wants to know the truth
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you’re right Op girl
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I have gotten the same impression from Hank especially after listening to the most recently released tapes. He is a Father and GrandFather himself.
exactly right OPGirl!!!!!!!!
he wants it to end,regardless of whose guilty,he dunno which way to turn?
CathyJo63 said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
I’d like to see ole Hank and Lisa replace AH and Ng! roflmao now theres a thought!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just got me thinking something, that is after I was laughing at what you said Cathyjo.
Maybe someone could set Hank and Lisa up on-line and show them how to blog and do their own radio show. He could do the radio part and Lisa the blog.
I have read these comments with interest. There is little doubt that the Haleigh Cummings case has garnered great interest. Lacking facts, people have headed in one direction or another. Each of the family members has their own unique set of supporters and detractors.
I take umbrage that people would accuse Jan of being a Ron supporter, she does not support anyone. It is far easier to fire arrows at me. I hate them all. I view the entire bunch of them as the Websters Dictionary definition of dysfunctional family.
Jan reports her heart, and she does a great job. I prefer to pick a target, and go after it. There is not a member of any of the families that I would entertain in my household. There are few members of the ‘so called’ press that would get a warmer welcome.
We run BNN as a place that news can be shared. We want peoples comments, but I will not entertain personal attacks. There are plenty of other sites for that.
If I see anymore attacks or stupidity I will start banning people, if that does not work, I will turn off the comment section. We have done it before, and I am prepared to do it again.
Simon Barrett
Lenora,
Do you have a theory you would care to share? I’d be intersted in hearing it.
Yea i did say it didn’t i? hm till i learned the voices were in my head so thout i’d be safe to repky!
ya don’t bring up sexual abuse with an attitude like yours,yea you’ll get a response,this aint the if she did she liked it ralley!
Teresa couldnt even let Crystal have something out of the trailer that was HaLeighs. That “woman” had no compassion for Crystal, even though she is the one who gave these people their gift. Teresas son lost Crystals child and Teresa had to still go be a huge bitch to Crystal. What a spiteful mean action coming from someone who didnt give a crap about her own kids when they were Jr and HaLeighs age.
Shes despicable. Whats up with that Simon? Shouldnt someone be digging around seeing exactly why Teresa, who looks like a drug addict in her own right,why she couldnt even mother her own kids? Was she left alone with HaLeigh and something happened and Misty came to the scene later and shes the scapegoat?
Anyone remember Teresa at the jail, saying, Think she’ll talk?
Shes worried Misty will.
Turn off comments?
Well, if you did for a week I would be more productive.:)
Simon, I wont throw arrows at Jan again, my apologies.
Wow what a troll, sounded alot like AH writing to me. Perfect vocabulary.jmo
ty Karri,Gonna go read it,sounds interesting!
Nanc said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
It sure takes Art Harris a long long time to moderate a comment
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It will never be allowed by art on the comment board
Ok ya’ll this is Seamus article Is it the beginning of the end for Misty and Company. I thought it was a very good article and thought you might like to read it too, if not please skip over the post!
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It very well may nearing the beginning of the end for the Misty Croslin crew.
Here is why:
The first shot fired was the sentencing of Hope Sykes. This young teen received a stunning sentence of 15 years in prison for her part of the prescription drug dealing even though she appeared in the video as a “bit role”; not nearly as prominent as Ronald and Misty. (Anyone else notice how lucid and quick thinking Misty appeared to be on the police video which is in stark contrast to her jail appearances? For long term abuse, this is an indicator that while in the car, she was under the influence).
Hope Sykes will be in prison for what many people believe to be the prime years of life; the years when a child becomes an adult, concludes education, seeks employment, marries and begins to raise a family of her own. If she serves her full sentence, she will spend these precious years in prison; years when many Americans graduate from college, work full time, marry, and have their children, take videos and enjoy the American dream. Hope will be 33 years old when her sentence concludes and will have missed those things that are enjoyed by many. It is tragic. It is sad to me when I see youngsters, who, by age 10, for instance, have never been made to do their homework, nor chores, and know little outside of television. They don’t read, they play video games. The dedicated teachers have terrible frustration knowing that if they cannot enlist the parents’ help in forming responsible habits, the life awaiting the 10 year old may prove bleak.
Societies that have prospered have been those that reward production. Societies that award being stagnate and eventually fail.
When I was a boy, a trophy was rewarded for striving for excellence and obtaining. Today, a trophy is often rewarded for showing up or “maintaining a pulse”.
Hope Sykes never had a chance.
Not that this dismisses responsibility, nor does it cast blame on society. As a parent, if I choose to abdicate my responsibilities my children will also fail. They will not have a chance in life, either.
The same is seen in the Croslin clan. Misty’s parents worked hard at avoiding work and avoiding responsibility and it may be that mom, dad, brothers and sister will all, collectively, be in prison. I can almost feel the frustration of Misty’s kindergarten teacher, who begged Lisa to read to Misty, but all Lisa was interested in was her next high. Misty joked that her parents were both nicknamed “crackhead”. It isn’t funny.
Ronald Cummings wasn’t raised by his mother; but was removed from her care.
No matter how offended Nancy Grace was recently in her defense of Ronald, Ronald lied about domestic violence and drugs in the hours after Misty went missing. Ronald and Misty are facing LONG sentences in connection to the drug trafficking. Ronald would LOVE to have only 15 years.
Is a deal in the making?
Tommy is also scared. He is not only facing a long time in prison, he placed himself at the crime scene which is now characterized as a homicide investigation.
Let’s Make a Deal is about to begin.
However, there is an additional element that may throw it all into chaos:
A Grand Jury convened to get answers.
Remember, there is much we don’t know that has been redacted (the early calls) as well as the Ronald interviews and polygraphs.
I think a Grand Jury is soon to be called and I expect indictments to be handed down in the disappearance and death of Haleigh Cummings.
I expect a Grand Jury to be convened soon.
We are reaching the crossroads:
Misty has changed her story repeatedly, including the “wrong river” story.
Tommy has changed his story repeatedly, including he was there, he was not there. His lawyer said that Tommy knows that Haleigh died there.
Ronald is rumored to have made a deal for 15 years. 15 years? He is “settling” for 15 years? Since it appears that the video tape that the undercover police have settles all question of guilt or innocence, and there are mandatory minimum sentence guidelines, the
PROSECUTION HAS NO NEED TO BARGAIN, that is, in the drug dealing case.
However, 16 months with no resolution on the Haleigh Cummings case appears to motivate them for a deal.
This means Ronald knows. It is something Statement Analysis shows clearly:
Ronald knows.
Apparently, Ronald knows something of such value that prosecution is wiling to make a deal when they have little need to make a deal. This speaks to the value of the information.
Ronald’s court date is in July (see comments section for details)
I think a Grand Jury may be called very close to the date of Ronald’s court date.
Is the end for Misty and company approaching?
I’d have a clean house for once,lol jaba
but i don’t wanna lose it,lol
rofl@Tobias,nodding,yup
wow ty Karri,don’t have to leave to read it,lol
Phone records would be HUGE at this point. Huge as in being able to triangulate the players and see who they called. Might help.
Lanora Said: Teresa couldnt even let Crystal have something out of the trailer that was HaLeighs.
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Crystal was haeigh’s mother, you would think that she would have personal possessions of haleighs at her home, and would not need to take things out of the trailor. Theresa may have not let Crystal take things because LE ,ay have said that nothing needed to leave in case they needed to come back and collect things further for evidenced. How do we kow what the reasoning was for sure? Who are we to judge?
The way misty talked, in the white or green shirt video, she was absolutley high. She was smoking a cig and stating she knew someone walking by. It was weird.
Lenora said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 2:02 pm edit
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For the record We don’t want to go on JVM or Nancy Grace. We are NOT here for popularity. We are here because we care. How many damn times do we have to say that. If I had to cut someone’s throat or stab them in the back to get front row seats on either of those shows then I guess we would never be there. We have NEVER even tried nor will we ever.
So Lenora if you do not like the way we report on here then be my guest to exit the site. We are bot forcing you to read what we write.
And btw… unless you are one of the people involved in the case personally even YOU don’t know who is behind this. What you stated is clearly an OPINION ONLY and that is how it will be taken on here. NOT fact, opinion only.
And I am NOT a Ronette fan. That just goes to show you how much you know about me, now doesn’t it!
Jan Barrett – BNN Editor
CathyJo63 said,in May 27th, 2010 at 1:04 pm I’d like to see ole Hank and Lisa replace AH and Ng! roflmao now theres a thought!!!!!!!!!!!
I am sure they could a better job! Then I would have a reason to watch! Would serve NG right!
Ronald knows.
Apparently, Ronald knows something of such value that prosecution is wiling to make a deal when they have little need to make a deal. This speaks to the value of the information.
Ronald’s court date is in July (see comments section for details)
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Thats what i keep thinking,why offer a deal when they have the proof? of drug deals i mean?
Lenora said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Simon, I wont throw arrows at Jan again, my apologies.
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What a crock of crap. It’s a little late to act like a sane caring person. I think Simon should delete your every post and ban your rude, vulgar ass from ever coming here again. Yes, we all have different opinions but the nerve to lash out at JAN is inexcusable. IF you have read ANY of her articles you would know she has a heart the size of Texas. The only fault I can find with her is her patience to put up with the likes of you. You make me sick.
Karri, to me its about having class, and the issue probably is, Teresa has none and I dont even know why I would attempt to give her that much credit. I would think it would come down to a common compassion, they both loved that little girl, but Teresa has no sympahty and probably more than likely does not have that maternal capacity most mothers have, she left her kids for a decade at young formative ages, he son Ron is a drug addict who has so many mommy issues Teresas full name is the one covering his heart, its a shrinks dream.
what treese said..I concur
it still bugs me when ron pulled that paper out of his poocket and gave it to le at the dock and chad was ?ed the same day?
yea jaba,ron was polluted in the tattoo video and others!
I feel empathy for Hank, Sr. and Lisa too. They could have refused all jail calls and not made any visits to the jail to see Misty and Tommy, but they did.
Like Jan said, they were not out there throwing themselves in front of the cameras and going a on a media blitz like George & Cindy. They may have enjoyed a free trip to the TV studio, a nice hotel, a few free crab cakes, etc. but that is not want they want.
They want the truth about what happened to HaLeigh.
Lenora said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
I hope there is a support group for CathyJo666 when she finds out Crystal didn’t abduct and kill HaLeigh over child support, which is by far the dumbest thing I have ever heard, but if you are working on minimal brain cells, like CathyJo666 then these kind of things make sense to a few sick few, people who have actually been diagnosed with Schizophrenia, but CathyJo666 already this.
I would personally like to see Simon Barrett cover this case as a reporter and expose the Cummings family, because there is a huge story there, from how did Teresa get there in light speed, how about the 911 call that has been enhanced and you can hear someone else in that trailer that night. Please Simon stop catering to the bored hateful housewives, you said you were here for HaLeigh, how about discussing the issues that happened that night and blow this story open, lets see you on Nancy Grace! Hell, even Levi Page got on JVM!
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Hi Lenora,
Wondering if you have any personal , factual information you could share? I mean besides what you said.
If you’ve read anything I’ve commented on you know I’m not a Ronette, or a Crystal/family basher as you put it. So if you want a real dialog go for it.
I do warn you though I am not interested in being called names, sarcasm and other general types of immature, pseudo-drama filled communications.
Enlighten me.
Lenora, LMAO you wouldn’t know class if it slapped you in the face.
mg lost her kids too Lenora,if thats what you’re comparing?
and dealt drugs!!!!!!
Karri said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Lanora Said: Teresa couldnt even let Crystal have something out of the trailer that was HaLeighs.
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Crystal was haeigh’s mother, you would think that she would have personal possessions of haleighs at her home, and would not need to take things out of the trailor. Theresa may have not let Crystal take things because LE ,ay have said that nothing needed to leave in case they needed to come back and collect things further for evidenced. How do we kow what the reasoning was for sure? Who are we to judge?
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No kidding. Crystal should have had her own things of Haleigh’s at her own house.
Class wouldn’t be saying what you said on entrance,thats how we will always see you!
I think PH’s comment as to:
As a paerent, when I abdicate my responsibilties then my children will fail….resonates loudly.
Its not 100% the case but its a vast majority.
Its also true that great parents aren’t always successful but chances ARE better when you parent as you should. To help your kids grow properly and being taught right from wrong and that their are consequences to bad behavior should be paramount. Their your kids for God’s sake, not some ‘dude’ hanging at the 7-11.
Unfortunately, drugs killed the parenting role in most of this clans worlds. Sad.
Jan, I apologized, and I wont apologize for wanting to see Simon on Nancy Grace or JVM, I actually think its a huge compliment based on his unwavering dedication to this little girl, if you see that as insulting, sorry, that was not the intent.
Jan i would like to commend you on a job well done on this article, i could not agree more. I have heard people bash the Croslins until i am sick of it. I agree they that they might not be parents of the year but i do believe there is a lot of love for one another and what more could you ask for i would rather have the love of my parents than all the material things of this world. I do believe it is killing Hank and Lisa inside for their children to be in jail and trying to figure this whole mess out and trying to believe that their children could not have a part in Haleigh’s disappearance but not knowing what to believe. They just want them to tell the truth. I do believe that they are the kind of people that if you did the crime you must do the time and that is more than i can say for some others (meaning Ronald and his family). At least the Croslins tried to tell their children to do better for themselves but you cannot blame the parent who tries. This article sums it up pretty well in my opinion and i thank you for standing up for the Croslins.
treece said,in May 27th, 2010 at 2:36 pm Lenora said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Simon, I wont throw arrows at Jan again, my apologies.
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What a crock of crap. It’s a little late to act like a sane caring person. I think Simon should delete your every post and ban your rude, vulgar ass from ever coming here again. Yes, we all have different opinions but the nerve to lash out at JAN is inexcusable. IF you have read ANY of her articles you would know she has a heart the size of Texas. The only fault I can find with her is her patience to put up with the likes of you. You make me sick.
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Now thats a LADY,you could learn from Lenora!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would be really shocked about Marie Griffis and her past drug dealings and custody issues, if I grew up in a remote cave, and had no idea the ills the world is plagued with. I am aware of statistics that state 1 in every 2 marriages breaks up. Logically that means custody issues, its not like Marie was the only woman ever to have custody issues and get busted for selling weed, I also have seen Judge Judy and Greg Mathis and know this world is riddled with drugs, I just am not as shocked as some of you are over people who have pasts.
Honestly, I would rather get busted with pot, then leave my kids for a decade until I was forced to take them back because one of the elderly people I left them with was dying.
Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Lenora, this is my last post to you but even Crystal would tell you that Teresa would and has given her many things. Crystal lived with TN from approx 13 years old and yes, they have a bond. It doesn’t matter to me one ounce what you think of Teresa or Crystal but get your facts together. There are enough problems in this case without the bs side shows. I have errands to run, later.
we know Lenora,you’d have to have class to do that!
If Simon went on Nancy Grace he wouldn’t be able to finish a sentence. I think going on her show is a big step down and just asking to be insulted.
thats for sure Lady! here here!
News flash folks:
Jan is right,
IT’S ALL opinion as to Haleighs disappearance.
Drug charges are pretty clear indication of guilt. Pleading out isn’t consistent with innocence for such a major crime.
Karri said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Wonderful point Tuff Stuff!
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jaba said,in May 27th, 2010 at 2:42 pm I think PH’s comment as to:
As a paerent, when I abdicate my responsibilties then my children will fail….resonates loudly.
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I think alot of what Peter Hyatt/Seamus O’Riley says makes tons of sense, then again, I dont always agree, but he always makes me think! Love his posts! Glad that Simon brought him to my attn.
What really puzzles me is the night the 911 call that Misty placed to LE after Ron got home. No emotion in her voice …sort of flat! Yet when she was robbed at the apartment complex and her purse was stolen she was hysterical. I can’t figure that one out! Also the road rage call. Still more emotion than she showed on the 911 call for Haleigh.
Anyone else hear what I heard?
Okie,it grinds my butt too cause,he’d only been with Misty approx 4 months,she was babysitter who did not call TILL he came home and then he still had her to call?? he knew everything about Haleigh,answers that Misty may not have known? could have saved time??
Ignorance is not bliss! Education is the key. Haleigh’s family on both sides fell through the cracks.
Karri,
I agree on PH. Don’t always agree with his analysis, but its interesting exposure to something different.
It will be interesting to see if this all gets figured out and someone is charged how we all faired in our conclusions.
o now she was sheer terrorozed in that call,but imo as of today…..i think mistys innocent of knowing where Haleigh is but i do think she’s holding something back for somebody? imo
I don’t have any sympathy for Hank or Lisa. Their lives are what they made them. They are drug users. Neither of them has an education and they can’t read. That alone is a good reason not to hire them. They can blame their bad luck on the Haleigh case but why didn’t they seak help before Haleigh went missing. Just an excuse for their poor choices. I think they avoid the camera’s because they know more than they are telling. JMO
Cathy, Jan,& Simon, I’m sorry you are all getting attacked.Don’t understand any. Cathy,I appreciate your friendship and emails.This has meant a lot to me,especially at this time in my life with all my stress. Jan & Simon I love to read your articles. There isn’t another blog that I would care to say much for fear of getting attacked.I try not to say much because I don’t like controversary,till I can’t stand 1 more nasty remark to everyone. I just wanted to tell you all how much I appreciate you. Also Judithan.Didn’t mean to leave you out.lol
Most people would be panicked and wanting to find her, Ron acted like she was already dead, wanting to kill the person. He didnt act right from the very beginning. I also noted he said you can put that on the recording too. Who thinks of a recording when they are in panic mode? jmo
Well Cathy Jo it just seemed odd to me. Then to find out that Misty had been trying to call Ron and he didn’t pick up and Ron saying he placed lots of calls to Misty and no answer. Someone again is not telling the truth. I hope LE has the phone records so at least they know who’s lying.
tobias said,in May 27th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
No one thinks of that tobias. When your in panic mode your jsut desperate for help!
Yeah, if other kids call your parents ‘crackheads’ you have a problem. Apparently issues exsisted from H and L back when misty was in school(6th grade) up until today. Nobody in these clans are in their first ‘rodeo’ with drugs and stealing, lying, statutory rape and domestic violence.
Were it not for Simon, Jan and TJ this story would have faded away like the other missing children. Thank you for keeping it alive. Someone should be held accountable for this child. In the case of Caylee Anthony no one is on her side. They abandoned her to rally around MOTY!
a bad storm coming here,i lovem’lol
Why would Hank need a job now? He has unemployment and it would pay better than a job at min. wage. He needs that fine money, and out of their probation so they can leave. He keeps refering to leaving on the tapes. Hank is ready to take off to better places. jmo
Where is the April 8th video conversation between Tommy and Lindsy?
Odd isnt it that they owe 2500 in fines and Chelsea was looking to sell Mistys letter for the same price? JMO
Grandma of 5 said,in May 27th, 2010 at 2:58 pm Cathy, Jan,& Simon, I’m sorry you are all getting attacked.Don’t understand any. Cathy,I appreciate your friendship and emails.This has meant a lot to me,especially at this time in my life with all my stress. Jan & Simon I love to read your articles. There isn’t another blog that I would care to say much for fear of getting attacked.I try not to say much because I don’t like controversary,till I can’t stand 1 more nasty remark to everyone. I just wanted to tell you all how much I appreciate you. Also Judithan.Didn’t mean to leave you out.lol
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Thank you Grandmaof5,i feel that way too!
and it is nice here when people use a little respect!It takes awhile and a certain attitude to get me off on the wrong thing now too because I’ve learned alot in here but when someone barges in with insults and a new nic,well that tells me all i need to know and blatant outright disrespect i will not sit still for!
but Thanks again!
I don’t blame Hank for wanting to leave. They may have been poor and uneducated before all this but now it’s just misery and fear of the unknown for their future.
why not use your regular nic no matter what comment you post,thats 2 faced to me,sorry guys tho if i made it awkward but that troll was a rude troll!!!
AMEN Tobias,thats exactly right,exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! straight to grieve,no hope whatsoever!!
If I were hanks spot I would avoid the cameras and interviews. Its not going to change enough people minds of the croslin rep that its not worth speninding his energy on.
He has fines and jail time to get through. He should me making a plan of how to come out of this with a fresh start that keeps him safe, sheltered and fed. Then he can go from there.
When I see him, I can see some goodness from the guy no matter what he’s been guilty of in the past. Doesn’t excuse him, but doesn’t matter that much in my thinking he can and has to do better. This is the bottom of the bottom, their is nothing lower to go too. Checking out of the game would be cowardly, and yes I said it, cowardly.
A good human, a man, digs deep, let’s out a growl and gets after saving his family anyway he can. Whether its just working and being clean and visiting his kids and grandkids for the rest of his life. Sounds like a pretty good life to me even if you have to drive a hoopdie and buy low budget cigs. That’s not the measure of a man. Its heart and pride not to be defeated in the ultimate challenge of life and its speedbumps. Step up and be counted. Do it for the others, man, do it for the others.
Lisa should be riding shotgun all the way as well. 2 heads and hearts are better than one.
Im sure yall felt the same as me………there at first it was impossible to even think about ron being involved,i didn’t wanna ever evn think it for a sec and especially for Haleighs sake,none of us did but there came a time you had to look at it that way if you truly want this solved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and HALEIGH found!
agreed Jaba!
yea Chelesa letter? Good grief Tobias,i can’t stand that everybody want money when they might hold the answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! even a tip……..ignorant!
we pull out teeth for answers and the people who do want money or deals!
shoulda saved her money for a tattoo of a child she’s not even related too!
vaquera said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Karri said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Lanora Said: Teresa couldnt even let Crystal have something out of the trailer that was HaLeighs.
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Crystal was haeigh’s mother, you would think that she would have personal possessions of haleighs at her home, and would not need to take things out of the trailor. Theresa may have not let Crystal take things because LE ,ay have said that nothing needed to leave in case they needed to come back and collect things further for evidenced. How do we kow what the reasoning was for sure? Who are we to judge?
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No kidding. Crystal should have had her own things of Haleigh’s at her own house.
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Folks this isn’t a for Lenora or against Lenora comment. It is an observation of everything that has been said here.
All these judgments regarding the comment Lenora made about the item Crystal wanted from the mh are no more valid or less valid than her comment. You don’t really know what was going on.
For example: Maybe crystal wanted something specific that she had given to Haleigh, or something that was very sentimental to her. Or maybe Teresa was real mean to Crystal when saying she couldn’t take anything. Geez folks
Stop already with turning her into a bicycle rack.
She did a good job of that her self already with some of her original comments.
Everybody please enough of this going after her. You guys be the adults here. Lets just please move on”????????????????
Just so I understand, if we ‘know’ the nic and we have differing and passionate view from one another, that isa the classification of a ‘troll’.
I agree ‘trollish’ behavior like name calling and demeaning jokes about another and/or their opinion is not as civil as I would prefer, no one should take this stuff personally. We don’t know any of these people. We only see what they type and tell us, openly.
I do relaize that no one wants to be embarrased in public by someone else when they don’t feel its warranted, but remember, its a somewhat anonymous system of commenting. No repercussions other than banning.
Let the water fall off your back if you hear disagreement. Comment back respectfully and show that the high road is what you would prefer be taken.
All the previous is only my opinion, you damn sure aint got to listen to me.:)
okie222 said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
What really puzzles me is the night the 911 call that Misty placed to LE after Ron got home. No emotion in her voice …sort of flat! Yet when she was robbed at the apartment complex and her purse was stolen she was hysterical. I can’t figure that one out! Also the road rage call. Still more emotion than she showed on the 911 call for Haleigh.
Anyone else hear what I heard?
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Oh Yes Okie, I wrote a commentary on that very point. I think it’s pretty meaningful.
I dont understand why Misty and Tommy would put their parents through such misery? They act like they dont care unless it involves their getting something from them, letters,visits,calls,or canteen money otherwise they could careless what happens to their parents. jmo
“It could be an abduction. We’re looking at it from all angles,” Donaway said. Leads have been minimal, he said, and investigators are asking for the public’s help.
Haleigh was reported missing after her father’s girlfriend told police she discovered the child wasn’t in her bed about 3 a.m. Cummings said his girlfriend was awake and frantic that Haleigh was missing from her bed.
The woman said the back door to the home was >>>>>>>not locked at the time. Police found the door to the trailer unlocked when they arrived, but no sign of forced entry, according to Donaway.
Several registered sex offenders reportedly live in the vicinity of the missing girl’s home in Satsuma, Fla. Donaway said they’ve all been identified, and either have been or will be interviewed by police.
Nettles said he couldn’t confirm whether authorities
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this has got to be a misprint??
Lenora, You better watch who your talking
about or to Simon and Jan are loved.
And CathyJo is loved by everyone here so If I were you I’d change my tone.
Cathy you type faster than anyone I’ve come across.
Hspain,
Bicycle rack? You lost me there. Pretty to easy to do, I know.:)
yea Tobias,like tommy said he could do 90 days on his head?? because Hank told him lisa could get 90 days!!!!!!!!!!
i pray the judge plays that one in court like he did Hopes!
athyJo63 said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
treece said,in May 27th, 2010 at 2:36 pm Lenora said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Simon, I wont throw arrows at Jan again, my apologies.
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What a crock of crap. It’s a little late to act like a sane caring person. I think Simon should delete your every post and ban your rude, vulgar ass from ever coming here again. Yes, we all have different opinions but the nerve to lash out at JAN is inexcusable. IF you have read ANY of her articles you would know she has a heart the size of Texas. The only fault I can find with her is her patience to put up with the likes of you. You make me sick.
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Now thats a LADY,you could learn from Lenora!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cathy- thought you weren’t going to say another word to her. Igore her let it go …….come on
homespain I am sorry I did not see the comment you wrote on the calls. I just find it very odd that it sounded the way it did. I also think it’s meaningful.
LE must have picked up that and since they haven’t released anything on it I sure hope they find it meaningful also.
homespain said,in May 27th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
All these judgments regarding the comment Lenora made about the item Crystal wanted from the mh are no more valid or less valid than her comment. You don’t really know what was going on.
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Karri said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 2:31 pm How do we kow what the reasoning was for sure? Who are we to judge?
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I pretty much said the same thing at the end of my post that you posted.
i have let it go,along time ago Homespain,im off looking for info,why would you say that now?????????????????
i last posted to Tobias???????? wth?
CathyJo63 said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
we know Lenora,you’d have to have class to do that!
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Boring,bllaaa bla bla Leonora bad We get it Cathy!!!!!!!!!!!!! back later when maybe you guys can move on. It’s like you got a bone and won’t let it go. She doesn’t matter.
Anytime a child is missing tempers and emotions ride very high. It’s easy to jump to conclusions and blame. We only know what LE wants to let us privy too. These are only our opinion and thoughts. Personal attacks are not necessary. Now I will put my posion pen away and shut up:) We only want to know where Haleigh is!
CathyJo63 said,in May 27th, 2010 at 2:46 pm we know Lenora,you’d have to have class to do that!
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My last comment was an hr ago Homespain and you beg me to Come On??? not say anything?? u lost me i think…………
It’s so true, the more I watch Hank Sr. when he talks to Misty, it breaks my heart.
I remember the very first tape after the arrest, and I couldn’t believe how he was trying to get information out of her, like he was leading her on; I thought, man, why r u incriminating ur daughter? Let the LE do that part;
Then, I realized, wow, this Father is doing the absolute most right thing that a parent in his position HAS to do; simple: make your children learn that they have to and MUST be responsible for what they do.
There I was thinking this strange guy in dark glasses is talking too much and doesn’t know he’s being taped. He’s right in front of a camera, doesn’t he know he’s getting his daughter in even more trouble than she already is?! He doesn’t know what he’s doing!!
I failed to see what was right in front of me on that 32inch screen….a parent who’s heart is breaking for his children, but yet, KNOWS EXACTLY what he has to do. Hmmm, no matter how big and grand my stupid tv was, I was the one who couldn’t see anything!! And I, too, was in front of a “camera” so to speak; and when I looked into it, I saw a “me” who was judgemental and opinionated. I realized it was ME who was the one who didn’t know. I didn’t see what was right in front of me: Hank Sr., a man so broken and vulnerable, his family’s life on display for everyone to criticize, judge, and worst of all, even laugh at…yet, at the same time a man showing the whole world the laugh is on us. He’s the smart one. He knows as a parent YOU have to suffer and live with your own mistakes…it’s our cross to bear and if we don’t carry it, our children will be the ones to SUFFER for evermore.
A social worker who counseled my son taught me a very important lesson that I will never forget, and that saved my son:
She told me that as his mother, you will hate YOURSELF now for what YOU have to do: discipline, spy, follow, snoop, tattle on him to the judge in a crowded juvenile drug court room…literally turn ur back on him and walk away while a deputy is putting handcuffs and shackles on HIM. You will think ur the WORST mother in the world because YOU told on him, you didn’t “back him up” and protect him from jail. I remember ((cringing)) when I would hear the sound of those shackles with the long chains being taken out, and then the finality of hearing the CLICK. It’s locked, and your son is walking away, head down, tripping trying to walk with those things; me averting his teary stares and desperate look, “Mom, help me, how could u do this to me, I promised u I would do better…”
But, as a parent, it’s YOUR job to choose the right path.
You can either:
1.) hate YOURSELF now for having to be so hard on him; You have to be strong in order to make him realize he’s the one hurting himself, and that it’s HIS fault, not YOURS. You must reassure him AND yourself that your not failing him as a mother. You ARE doing what you ARE supposed to do.
Or-
2) have HIM hate YOU when he is a grown man with no hope for a productive fulfilling future….only this time when you look into his teary eyes and he tells you “how could you do this to me?”, it WILL be different…because THIS time it WILL be YOUR FAULT, and you DID fail him as a mother. You didn’t do what you WERE supposed to do.
OMGGGGGGGGG How dare you,can u see when my last comment was Lenoras gone,I thinkkkkkkkkkkkkk
CathyJo63 said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
why not use your regular nic no matter what comment you post,thats 2 faced to me,sorry guys tho if i made it awkward but that troll was a rude troll!!!
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yea Homespain,you just gave me a bone,don’t you dare try to get an argument restarted,anybody knows by my last comment,its overrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr and you act like i got it going,get off my back! I don’t trust you now at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats a cruel trick!!!!!!!!!!
I do believe Hank and Lisa do want this to end and for Haleigh to come home or for closure. Misty and Tommy are not helping their parents out, they created a horrible mess for them with the Joe story(along with others in the family) everyone else is away from the fallout of that story.jmo
in general,why use 2,why do u use 2 nix,that was a general comment,not too lenora who already left??????????
CathyJo63 said,in May 27th, 2010 at 1:12 pm oh yea i saw it along time ago but i didn’t think it was funny,it angered me…jmo
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat??????
It should anger ME!!! LOL
Awwwwwwwww, I really thought you would laugh, I don’t like threats, etc…but, it is strangely funny for the people who see Ron as
manipulative and I kept thinking about your comments about his “smirks” and the way he would look so cool.
Awwwwwww, don’t be mad at me. Seriously.
Cricket said,in May 27th, 2010 at 3:27 pm Lenora, You better watch who your talking
about or to Simon and Jan are loved.
And CathyJo is loved by everyone here so If I were you I’d change my tone.
Cathy you type faster than anyone I’ve come across.
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I’m a mess thats for sure,Thank you Cricket!
lol
I’m not mad at you,lol cuz we disagree?????? rofl
we’d all stay mad,lol if it were cause we disagree!
i know by your nic,youre a ronfan.lol soooooooooo
2.46 was my comment
3.45 was your plea to me to stop?????? now can you explain that?
If Joe is innocent after all this Hank and family owe him more than an apology. The things that were said about him were very bad if they werent true. Hank thinks he has problems he needs to look at Joe. jmo
and no i won’t argue with you either homespain,i don’t trust ppl who do what you just did! sorry but not my fault,you did it not me!
oh Tobias,he couldn’t even talk without crying,can you imagine?
jaba said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Hspain,
Bicycle rack? You lost me there. Pretty to easy to do, I know.:)
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bike rack is a term for sticking your ass in the air and (figure out the rest of the) imagery, that explain it?:)
People don’t need to do a gang —-? Got it? Really didn’t want to have to spell it out.
Figured she already did a good job of doing that to her self. Think allot of the commentaries in general about her are really disintegrating to her level of original commentary as well.
They use her as an excuse to get demeaning, crass, rude, name calling, and go on histrionically.
The same thing she did. Tired at the hypocrisy.
I’m going out side. It’s gorgeous out. Gonna be with my friends and have a cook out. Enjoy life. Hope you have a great night Jaba.
His own grandmother came on and said those things then Misty sits there and tell Hank she dreamt it all. Hank should have told her she ruined Joes life if it wasnt true. jmo
I would just like to say, I read everyones comments all the time, and I do post here and there, I think every “theory” is a possible and I HOPE that we will SOON find out! I value everyones opinion, and do not think it is right to blast Simon or Jan, since they are taking their valuable time to talk about this precious angel Haleigh! I love MOST of all of you who are regulars and comment without discrimenation….AMYTHING is possible in this horrible “soap opera”….thats what it is a soap opera that, I wont lie…I and everyone feeds off of! I just PRAY, that LE will figure this out…Ive seen alot of YT vids saying LE has their own shit to cover (floodofnoah), I dunno if thats true or not, but SOMEONE NEEDS TO FIGURE THIS OUT!!!! I SWEAR IM GOING CRAZY ON THIS!!! Is it just ME??? Is there anyone else out there who is so obsessed with this case, but want an END!!!!!!?????????? Im sorry, I know Im rambling, but I live close to where this happened and Im TIRED…..TIRED of the lies and BULLSHIT! Come on people, there is a 6 year old angel that needs PEACE AND JUSTICE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
right Tobias,she did!
OP,I think we all are!!!!!!!!!!
OJ’s Glove, my hat’s off to you, you can pick out a troll faster then anyone I know. You tried to warn CathyJo and I, maybe, next time we’ll listen.
Cricket said,in May 27th, 2010 at 3:27 pm Lenora, You better watch who your talking
about or to Simon and Jan are loved.
And CathyJo is loved by everyone here so If I were you I’d change my tone.
Cathy you type faster than anyone I’ve come across.
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Especially when i get excited,lol whewwww
okie222 said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Well Cathy Jo it just seemed odd to me. Then to find out that Misty had been trying to call Ron and he didn’t pick up and Ron saying he placed lots of calls to Misty and no answer. Someone again is not telling the truth. I hope LE has the phone records so at least they know who’s lying.
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Pretty sure we know who is lying and that is Misty.
LE has already commented on the phone records (in several articles) and said that Ronald made 20 phone calls to Misty that night (NOT the 90 that Art Harris reports). So, it appears that yet again, Misty is spinning another story. Ronald had been trying to reach Misty and couldn’t get ahold of her. 20 phone calls he made to her. I’d post the links, but they don’t seem to post, or they take a long time. If someone wants, I’ll post them after this post (and after I feed the kids and come back)
As for what went on here this afternoon, I was horrified to see Jan attacked. No one should be attacked for his or her opinion, but we are all here as Simon and Jan’s guests and should behave as such. I thank Jan wholeheartedly for her huge heart and everything she does for HaLeigh and all the missing children!
Hspain,
Gotcha’ now. Bicycle rack. I’m going to use that at some point and I may neglect to site your as the source. No lawsuits , please.:)
oh i had it figureed out by certain things Treece in some posts but wasn’t sure but tg Oj was right and he warned me behind the scenes……i don’t need that crap! I would never nor have i ever used a different nick,when ppl do it gets my guard up! and I trust anybody till they gimme reason NOT TOO!
Then I’m done!
Exactly J,blatant disrespect is sommin i don’t go for!!!!
J,
Thx for some ‘phone’ clarity.
I originally came on here today to tell Jan I love her article. Great job, shows your compassionate heart. I too feel sad for Hank and Lisa. Hank sounds so broken and scared.
Thank you and prayers for Haleigh.
CathyJo63 You are great…..I love all of your comments.
Yea Tobias,look at all the lives destroyed by one night that somebody holds the truth too!!!!!!!!!
and unfortunately one taken! imo
Thanks Op,i wish i felt as good as yall make me feel,i’d be on venus everyday,lol
these trolls need to be exposed,they play games and this is far from funny!
if the players all put into what all uf us have and still do,we might have Haleigh by now!
Jan and Simon should be congratulated,not treated like scum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and i aint brown nosin,even if i didn’t stay here i’d say it cause they do whats right for Haleigh and heck i thought thats what we all wanted!
Why spend your energy on trolls? Its just taking ‘keystrokes’ off the end of your life. 🙂
I’ve been listening to the radio shows on Haleigh and I’ve never noticed Jan being partial to any of these characters. I do remember her constantly bringing up Haleigh. This is all about finding Haleigh. I hope if one of my children ever go missing someone will be willing to constantly keep my child in the spot light.
People mess up, but they can turn their life around. Hank has admitted he wasn’t the best father. He knows it so quit twisting the knife in his side even more.
WWJD?
rofl Jaba,that’d be a good thing for yall,lol
at least im not a 2 faced lyin troll!
Jan you touched me with your writting.I was a wayward child to.3 of us out of 5 Drove my Mother Crazy.An 2 of us would leave the state,traveling.Mother wouldnt know where we were for months.Myself being the worst.I would leave the house to go to the store,an she would hear from me sometimes 5 months later.I did her an my grandmother so very wrong.They were decent people.No abuse,no neglect,no booze,or drugs Cristian wemon.
Once mother place my pictures over the news air way,trying to find me,as well as 2 of my other sister at another time..There was a girl murdered near our town,found in a dumpster.The LE took her pic to mother to see if it was me.We did favor.Im ashamed,an have payed through the yrs for my wrong doing of them.
Hank,an Lisa are great people to talk to.I have been calling ,an speaking to them a long time now.Of course when i first posted that.Attacks came from everywhere.Im so happy to hear compassion for them now.
I dont go by (Jan)57,which is my middle name when talking to them.I have their addresses.An hope to be able to keep in touch long after this is over,Hank,an Lisa are welcome to come stay with me at the beach,an i would help them get work,an on their feet.I told them this,but probation,an their children in jail prevent them from giving it a try.
.However i have been somewhat worried its been about 2/3 weeks now sence hearing from them.I pray they are ok.They refused money i have offered.But im thinking about sending them a money order.I hate to think anyone goes to bed hungry.So they arnt beggers,or they would have jumped on my first offer..Now they may except it,being it has got worse down there for them.
.An i do not let what they say to me in privite be placed for all to hear.Unless it was something about Haliegh,an her whereabouts,then i would call LE.We have spoke of their children,but not in dept.
An i did warn them that Chelsea,an Lindsy were talking to AH,an he was saying it was exclusive.They have no puter,an dont know everything being said.Hank then Called Chelsea,she said she wasnt giving him exclusives,an she was going to file a report to LE that he wouldnt be able to contact her again.Now if she just told that to Hank,or if she did do it.who knows.
But i wanted Hank to know either his daughter-in -laws were spreading stuff to AH,or either AH was saying they were.It wasnt right no way its looked at.He,an Lisa were in the dark,about what was being said,by AH OR Chelsea,an Lindsey.
It pissed me off what AH did TO Cobra like he did,when Cobra had paid him to go to Putnam.An with held(lost as he claimed)the video,of Snodgrass,being arrested.The one that cobra needed to do with Snodgrass,an going to jail.Other than that i have never shared all the bad things that have been written about them.I know thats just blogging.An peoples OP is non of my buisness..
I havent been able to see any of these DVDs somehow it must be a new deal your using when down loading them.Or could be i just dont know how to do it myself.
CathyJo63 said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
at least im not a 2 faced lyin troll!
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LOL 😀
cause ya got caught,lol youll be back with a new nic!
aww Jan,thats so nice!
people should have a heart! they did nothing to Haleigh!
Do I need to bring in Rodney King for a short speech followed by a group hug(minus the cops and billy clubs) ???
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lol Vaq,its true tho!
I don’t think the issue is will it help “us” out here in the public find Haleigh, but will it help Law Enforcement find Haleigh. Knowing the lifestyles and rap sheets of all the people in the various families could very well help find Haleigh, as well as the jail tape conversations. Hank and Lisa won’t be affected for the rest of their lives as far as being able to find jobs, but Haleigh is likely to have/had the rest of her life affected. According to police, she’s not going to have one and she never committed any crime, badly raised any kids, or did anything wrong.
Thanks, Jan and Simon for keeping Haleigh in the forefront of your news blog. I hope you don’t let a few ruin the comment sections again. Most bloggers here seem very respectful with each other. It’s a good place to exchange different opinions. Grandma of 5 thanks for your nice comment.
jaba,maybe? lol
CathyJo63 said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
and no i won’t argue with you either homespain,i don’t trust ppl who do what you just did! sorry but not my fault,you did it not me!
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endless amounts of these , like this where you go on and on and on- nuts. Yes cathy it’s everyone elses fault. You think that it will make you feel better. Then everyone else can agree with you and go Poor Cathy.
After I’m gone from here you’d still be doing your drama queen crap. Boring. blaming everyone else for your own problems. I don’t trust you either because you are fickle and contrary to how you pretend to me un sincere and shallow.
Judith,when the trolls start,thats why,they want it shut down!
Nice words Jan57 It’s nice to know that some are willing to see through all the rubble and still see the important picture here.
Whatever,say it to the board cuz the finger aint listening!
and still a 2 faced lying troll with 2 nix!
I’ll bbl guys so these guys can get it on!! lol
If you are sending money, send it registered with return receipt so you know Hank and Lisa actually get it.
I think I will come back when people have decided to grow up. I feel like I’m reading the posts of Junior High children right now. Prayers for Haleigh.
cathyjo, anything new today. I loved Jan’s
new story. Have you started that book yet
Lenora, what’s up with you. Cathyjo is really
cool to blog with. She has been really devoted
to keeping this blog alive.
Anyway, you sound like you may know TN or Marie
I don’t think either of those grandmother’s
had a thing to do with Haleigh’s disappearence.
TN may be a lot of things but she didn’t hurt
that baby.
Also, I agree with the other poster about Hank’s comments about Joe. Hank was fueling the whole story about Joe saying he’s “crazy” and insinuating that maybe he could do something but not sure. Hank was also putting Ron down quite a bit. Ron is the family member of a missing child. Hank is not Haleigh’s family and hardly knew her for a brief time. It’s not cool to know your statements will end up on national TV, and that they could destroy a young man’s life or get him killed by some vigilante lunatic.
Its hard to not let people pull you offsides on such a case. Happens frequently. But, its just a screen with letters and numbers. Take a breath.
Book? Wow, now there’s an undertaking.
What’s the subject matter?
Good point jaba. Is it a full moon or do folks
really feel that strong about who is guilty
or innocent. One poster just seemed to bring
to much personal stuff about TN into it. I don’t care who she sleep with I just want
to know what happened to that baby while she was sleeping.
i wish they would release the phone records theres some pros on some boards that could tare the pings to pieces.
Coop, seriously, I sound like I am related Marie or Crystal, because I am not interested in all the gossip some thrive on in life, and am actually focused on the people who were the last to see this child, who are lying and in jail, and to you that means I know them?
Heres the thing, I just am not a catty person who needs to obsess over some woman who lives in Florida who got a divorce had a messy breakup and sold pot, these people are a dime of dozen, and I really just dont care, I care about that beautiful little child that has been missing for over a year and all the lies and sketchy behavior her step mom and daddy have been portraying.
You hate Crystal, thats your thing, you obsess and make sure everyday that you degrade her and bash her and all that fun stuff, and she more than likely is the mother of a dead child who had nothing to do with her child going missing.
You show me one thing where its ever been reported that Crystal Sheffield missed weekends she had those kids. We never hear anything like that. So she had a custody agreement lots of people especially men in this world have, ok, she still has a missing child and is a victim whether you LIKE her or not. Why you choose to sit and be a hateful spiteful person is beyond me because I am never apologizing for being interested in the actual crime here, not the stupid gossip lonely people latch onto.
or did those get lost to..imo
CathyJo I was here when the comment section was shut down for a pretty long time. I’d hate for it become necessary for them to do it again. There’s a lot of good info shared here.
I think cathyjo’s story would make a great
book. I think she just needs to vent and
she certainly has been passoniate about these
blogs and this case. I love all the bloggers
and their different lives and preception of
this case. However, I am so wishy washy myself. Sometimes I think a stranger got that
baby she was such an easy target. I feel so
bad for everyone that had nothing to do with
the baby’s disappearence.
Jan57
I, really respect you for trying to help
Hank and Lisa,they need a break in life
no matter if they have had help before.
Maybe I shouldn’t say this here but
What if “GOD” only gave us 1,2,or 3 times
or just one, He gives every time we ask.
So why would we not do as he does none of no
when someone is ready all we can do is try.
About the videos you can download at VLC and get them that’s what I had to do. Just type VLC it will take you the downloads.
Writing a book may be better than her day job. You get a best seller going and you are looking at some hefty bucks.
Lenora, I am so sorry that I offended you but I
don’t really even know what you are talking about. I think you will see that I am a wishy
washy blogger. I don’t have a clue who got
that baby. I don’t however, feel that the
grandparents are involved.
Now who do you think go the baby and what was
their reason. I agree Marie Sheffield is ok by
me she’s a bus driver. I don’t think Marie Sheffied took her granddaughter nor do I think
Crystal kidnapped her daughter.
Are you new to this board?
jaba, I don’t know anything about cathyjo, I
do respect her as a blogger. She can always
back up what she says. She has done extensive
research online and I have a lot of respect for
her. She could publish an e-book without even
applying for an ISBN. My friends has published
a couple of e-books and then got picked up
by a publisher. I think cathyjo can be anything she wants to be.
Yes, I am new, and sorry Coop, I guess I misunderstood your position, sorry about that.
Its very weird to want to talk about the actual crime and the main characters, and then be confronted with, well do I think Marie or Crystal was a good parent, I just dont know why anyone takes any pointing out Ronalds flaws, and then throw two people in my face that were not even in town when this all went down, and also in light of all we do know about Ronald and Misty. Am I supposed to act like people dont have pasts? I mean everyone has a skeleton or two, but hopefully you rise above that and better your life.
Jan57,
So glad to hear that someone sees the good in Hank & Lisa. They’ve done so much wrong that it is hard to see passed, but God never gives up on people. Why should we?
But…. please be careful. Try not to enable bad habits. If you want to help pay the rent, then pay the landlord and get a receipt. Don’t send a money order. If you want to feed them, send food. They may be trying to clean up, but that is virtually impossible for them without counseling & rehab & tutors to help them learn to read better & maybe job training skills. If Hank is going to a good church (I have no idea what one he is going to) they might be able to suggest good local counselors, etc… Start there.
I am in the counseling field. Please think about these suggestions. God bless you for your heart!
Here is a question that needs answered, if Joe was being look at why didnt AH investigating reporter ask his sisters or mother about his past before NG aired all that crap GHollar had to say. If he had nothing to do with it they just let someone come on and call him a SO on National news. What if he is totally innocent?
He may not be but dont ya think someone needs to be sure before they let people come on and say those things? jmo
Lenora, I could care less how much beer, how
may cigs, or how much pot anybody smokes. I do
think Ron Cummings is a thug. Now weather he hurt his daughter I don’t know. I don’t anyone
in this case got up that day and said I think I
will kill Haleigh Cummings today unless it was
a stranger. Something went wrong if it was one
of the players.
I agree Coop. I think whatever happened was a complete accident, it wasn’t cold blooded murder.
tobias, thanks for setting me straight on
probation and parole the other day. I certainly did not know what get out on paper
was.
CathyJo,
I’m getting off this blog been here since 7:30am it’s about time. I hope to see you here when I come back later
Love You Girl !
Lenora said,in May 27th, 2010 at 2:36 pm Karri, to me its about having class, and the issue probably is, Teresa has none and I dont even know why I would attempt to give her that much credit. I would think it would come down to a common compassion, they both loved that little girl, but Teresa has no sympahty and probably more than likely does not have that maternal capacity most mothers have, she left her kids for a decade at young formative ages, he son Ron is a drug addict who has so many mommy issues Teresas full name is the one covering his heart, its a shrinks dream.
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Teresa Neves was helping raise Crystal’s kids. I am assuming you know Crystal and her side of the family because if you were just here for Haleigh you wouldnt be so adamant to throw stones at a grandmother that has done nothing but try to find her granddaughter. Everything you are accusing her of Crystal has done and so has Marie. Neither family is perfect when it comes to their kids and your right Ron is a drug user but so is Crystal her newborn was born with drugs in her system that shows her character. Lets just focus on the FACTS instead of trashing these people that is dealing with this tragedy. Grow up!
Lenora, I know that how I feel most of the time too. Until I see Ron having a hissy fit
then I want to blame him for everything. I just
don’t think I would like him as a person so I
am bias but have nothing to base it on.
Whomever, done it was doing something else they
should have. If they come clean on one thing
they have to come clean on two.
Cathy would have to get her caps lock key repaired and inspected, with on line certification of such, maybe by the EPA or someone from apple or microsoft, before I would pay to download the book. 🙂 but I would pay.
jaba, Cathy does get that caps lock stuck when she gets excited. I tried to email her so she
wouldn’t feel left out but she isn’t talking
right now. She knows we care.
Lenora will learn to love her too.
Well guys things are a little slow here this
evening I think I will go see Sex in the City.
Coop,
I agree. No need to make this already negative situation by hating on someone discussing it. No need to gain an enemy out of this no matter what our views.
As groups form and people open up, the line blurs when it comes to pointing out others issues when making a point or feeling attacked.
I try to read everyones post a few different ways to gain meaning before responding. It ranges from negative to positive and I always want to pick the positive way before assuming the worst.
homespain said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
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Did you read her posts attacking Cathyjo? No one who said the things she said to Cathy should be allowed to stay here period imo.
Here’s the “present” problem with Crysta…. *first, one tear has not fell from her eyes she will wipe her eyes but I dont know why
*secondly, she couldnt even tell you when her daughter got out of school,
*thirdly, her newborn had drugs in her system when she was born
* she wouldnt pay child support for her kids (that she loved so much)
* she was driving around on drugs she stole and had seizures with her newborn in the car
*she has failed several drug tests since she has had jr
should I keep going Lenora????
Lori said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
homespain said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
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Did you read her posts attacking Cathyjo? No one who said the things she said to Cathy should be allowed to stay here period imo.
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Well what do you expect from the most banned person on the net? 😀
No guys,
Lenora and me settled it when we stopped but what upset me and tells me not to trust someone is simply this fact………….
After Lenora had left after our tiff,who by the way upset me by trashing Jan,Simon and me
(which i can and do look over always
(after it calms down)
and I was off looking for Haleigh articles….etc
then i come back and fro and after an hour had passed i see this: notice the time passed and Lenora was gone?? at that time too!
>>homespain said,in May 27th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Cathy- thought you weren’t going to say another word to her. Igore her let it go …….come on
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She made it look and sound as if i was keeping it going,
so i asked her with this:
CathyJo63 said,in May 27th, 2010 at 3:49 pm 2.46 was my comment
3.45 was your plea to me to stop?????? now can you explain that?
but look in between those comments,it became very obvious to me,she wanted the tiff to get restarted and to me,thats the lowest of the low,I don’t trust easily and I admit that!
but i don’t lose trust easily either!
It became very apparent to me then that Homespain wanted an argument anyway she could get one!
So I am sorry guys, I am and i try to be respectful,and yea sometimes i show my ignorant side too but i guarantee ya,you’ll never see me egg a fight on,or lie to you,or pretend to be somebody I am not!!!!!!!!!
and I expect the same,we are here for Haleigh and if we can’t trust one another then hey,we shouldn’t have a bad word to say about anybody in the Haleigh case! Cause we’d be the same way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and once i don’t trust ya for a reason i did not cause then who can blame me…see??
I know i am an oddball and TG they broke the mold when they made me but i just don’t play games when peoples lives are involved!
I hope you understand why i went off and maybe even wrong in someone else’s eyes but to me,i did nothing wrong on the homespain front!
And Thank all you guys for supporting me when i knew i was right,I don’t spect ya too when i am wrong but it means alot when you do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and my caps sticking is yalls fault cause ya won’t loan me no “duck Tape” rofl
it totally shocked me!It did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and no ya dont need to pay when ya got a front row seat to my novel of a life every day for free,lol
tobias said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
If Joe is innocent after all this Hank and family owe him more than an apology. The things that were said about him were very bad if they werent true. Hank thinks he has problems he needs to look at Joe. jmo
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My opinion too tobias. If he had nothing to do with this, I hope Sheriff Hardy holds a press conference and loudly proclaims Joe’s innocence.
No one has a perfect past, but Crystal did not lose HaLeigh nor marry what cops call the key to finding HaLeigh.
Lots of people have things in their past, I would say whatever bad stuff Crystal did in her past, her daughter being killed is punishment enough for me, and I would never wish that as punishment on everyone, I am just saying, shes suffered a major loss, I hope she gets better.
i feel sorry for him now,they hate the lil guy just imagine his heart! and i really don’t think he’s involved!!
bbs nobodys here
dr. fessel said,in May 27th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
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I also agree with your comments. It is so very unfortunate to see the generational break-down of these families, the cycle appears to be never ending. At some point one adult has to stand up, accept responsibility and provide their children with a foundation built on love, stability, education and responsibility. I do feel sorry for the Croslins, from the enormous guilt IMVHO they appear to be feeling. Unfortunately based on various articles, they did not raise their children full time, have a long history of addiction, no attempt to gain a basic education to support their family, a life long history of running from one problem/situation/state to another. Perhaps, I have missed some family history or have read incorrectly. IMHO I do not think their current situation has anymore to do with their children, than it did ten years ago. It is interesting to see the dynamics of the taped visits and telephone calls, there appears to be a great deal of vacillating by Mr. Croslin between his children in belief, lack of belief, whom is lying or not, his inconsistency IMHO is another example of the chaos in which these children were raised. Just as the multiple restraining orders filed against one another, and plate throwing/fights, when LE was called to try and settle another domestic abuse between these family members.
IMHO To think Misty at 16 would be capable of breaking the chain of destruction, is a concept I cannot wrap my head around. Yes, children do rebel, and some hard to handle….. but as parents, you don’t throw in the towel and send them off for another relative to raise, because you are more concerned with getting high than accepting that sometimes very unrewarding role of being a parent. I think for most of us, regardless what our children want to do, we love them enough to let them hate us, by being responsible parents and enforcing rules and expectations. I don’t think IMHO the Croslin children, ever knew what boundaries were, nor stability or the basic survival in a productive life i.e. education.
I applaud anyone whom wants to support the Croslins, I would hope it would be in manner of paying for a GED test/training, reading and writing lessons, a tangible life learning skill, rather than money that will(or could) pay for cigs or drugs or drink. Just my opinion.
IMHO I have not a clue of who is innocent, who is guilty…. as I have said I think the blame is endless, however that does not help precious HaLeigh, also so very heartbreaking to me, I see no change in the lifestyle to protect another child of these families from harm. There was a child lost/dead and the drug dealing, family feuds, fraud, dysfunction in ever manner continued… what will it take for just one of these adults to wake up??? IMVHO
I am here Cathy, I am just deep in thought about Misty and why she would lie about someone so bad? Is she willing to send someone to prison just to free herself? jmo
Misty is covering for Ronald, its obvious.
I don’t care if CathyJo’s caps stick!!!!((((LEAVE MY CATHYJO ALONE))))
Lenora,
If so, why does ronald divorce her as she said it was his decision?
Wouldn’t he stay with her?
I guess first I must know if you think she is covering for ron on the haleigh case or the overall crime he was into.
Hi, BA long time no see. What is your take on the Joe story being a dream and what someone told Misty? jmo
Lori, the attacks went both ways. It needs to drop and everyone needs to QUIT commenting on it. Period!!!!
Now, as far as Crystal Sheffield goes, I have no respect for her. I can clearly see how her family or her boyfriend and his family took Haleigh. It wouldn’t be that difficult given the circumstances that night.
Those of you that know me on here (not literally), know that the Sheffields or Associates is one of my strongest theory beliefs. The police need to investigate, if they aren’t already doing so!
However, I think a lot of other people could be guilty too and I have posted those theories. But in reality, one theory is no more right than the other. Why? Because all we know is what the media has told us, part of what we heard ourselves, lies and more lies, twisted stories and twisted versions, and all to the point that no one really knows the truth.
However, I do have one truth…Haliegh is GONE!
There is no proof or evidence that Haleigh was harmed, killed, buried or fed to the alligators. We don’t know that anyone even took her. We don’t really know who the last person was that saw her. Hell, we don’t even know for sure when she came up missing! We just know she is GONE.
And that one fact alone tells me it could be ‘anyone’ that knows the truth.
Therefore, anything posted is an OPINION, or a THEORY based on OPINION! Unless of course you were there and witnessed what happened????
Jaba, I think he did stay with her, and the breakup was a ruse. I saw her calling him baby on those tapes and she has his name tatooed on her. I do think they were always sneaking around to be together. The interview with Levi and Charlie Jones, Ronald and Misty were together at Xmas.
Crystal’s factual past is off limits but Teresa Neves’ “rumored on blogs” past is fine. I think I got it now.
im new here but this cathyjo didnt comment the crime so why attack a poster.so uncalled for on any forum.imo.just let peeps be happy and go with the flow and not be rude.this is about a little girl whos been murdered or stole and the ones responsible cant say what happened without in some way imp themselves.they just havent got there yet.and they dont have the right help to get them there either.imo
STOPPPPP! Geez.
Hey Tobias,
My take is that Joe is a scapegoat, I do NOT believe the dream scenario of Misty’s. I think thats her way out of being confronted for lying on him. I could be wrong of course
I think your’e right. By mistys words, ‘ron was picking me up everyday’. I took that to mean they’d gotten back together and the tatoo on her back.
Why would ron want to distance or show distance from misty, do you think?
BA, I think so too. Could be wrong but it really looks that way now. He really got a raw deal, wonder if he lost his job? He said he has lost family, its just a shame that NG let things go so far on National TV with no proof.
No one deserves to be called a SO murderer without proof first.jmo
Jaba, True she did say that and Lisa even said she knew . She spent the night with him at AS home. I believe he wanted all media to go away. Right after the divorce he did the last media on Maury, then nothing . I think he was hoping it would all go away like the Jon Bonet case and alot of other cases that were never solved.jmo jmo
I have spent the last 45 mins on the you tube page posted earlier (LLMPAPA). WOW! It’s got to be someone who lives there and knows them all. Pretty creative and powerful stuff!
tobias said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
BA, I think so too. Could be wrong but it really looks that way now. He really got a raw deal, wonder if he lost his job? He said he has lost family, its just a shame that NG let things go so far on National TV with no proof.
No one deserves to be called a SO murderer without proof first.jmo
Jaba, True she did say that and Lisa even said she knew . She spent the night with him at AS home. I believe he wanted all media to go away. Right after the divorce he did the last media on Maury, then nothing . I think he was hoping it would all go away like the Jon Bonet case and alot of other cases that were never solved.jmo jmo
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Well Hardy didn’t help matters having a presser and all but pointed his finger at Joe and said he ‘lawyered up’ when in fact he’s had this lawyer for a good while.
Just thinking out of the box from all the rumors we have heard….Consider this question and base it on your knowledge….Which scenario is more likely to happen?
1. A 5 year old little girl sleeping with her 2 yr old brother in a MH in a quiet little trailor park, has school in the morning and is suddenly (pick one) Overdosed, Hit in the Head, Raped, kidnapped by a stranger, Suffocated, Fed to Aligators, etc. in the middle of the night, and there is no evidence, proof, crime scene, body, etc., no trace.
OR
2. The 5 year old little girl sleeping with her 2 yr old brother in a MH in a quiet little trailor park, has school in the morning, is abducted by the Non-Custodial family/associates who fails to get the 2 year old out in time, due to the babysitter waking up and foiling the plan?
My knowledge says #2 as non-custodial abductions are very common!!! What a great opportunity to take the kids…daddy at work, babysitter asleep or passed out from etoh/drugs. The time was prime!
Sorry, but CS taking 8 hours to get to the crime scene when her child was taken, being worried more about her hairdo when the dogs hit on the dumpster and only going on TV to put Ron down…Speaks Volumes to me!
CS is a poor actress, period. And the family member that kept saying Haleigh is safe and she just knows it….well, truth comes out in some peoples statements.
Jaba, I think Ronald wanted everyone to think they were not together, because he was getting heat about being with her. Also, he tipped Misty off to Donna, after being told what the game plan with Donna was, to find info from Misty, Ronald alerted Misty to warn her, right there thats very, very suspicious.
Also, they had been watching Misty for a month with the drug deals, so that puts it they started watching her in December, she was with Ronald, the divorce was final on Oct 12. If they were ever apart, it was not for long.
poohpig said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
I have spent the last 45 mins on the you tube page posted earlier (LLMPAPA). WOW! It’s got to be someone who lives there and knows them all. Pretty creative and powerful stuff!
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He lives in Florida and not Putnam County.He also involved himself in Caylee’s case. He doesn’t really know the families but just went to one of the fund raisers Crystal had.
Thx, understood.
Misty is asked on the Today show by Meredith about the Divorce. Misty says that Ron thought (para) it best as they were getting attacked all the time for being together and the focus was taken off finding Haleigh. Misty said that Ron (para) told her that they would still be hanging out together, etc.. That is on the taped interview. I can see why they would do what they did. So much pressure from the public and media. There was no way for that marriage to survive under the circumstances. Sad.
WHERE IS HALEIGH????
I think the two stories on here get mixed together a lot. One is Haliegh is Gone and the other is the Drug Bust. It really causes confusion.
Jan i always love your articals.It show in your writting that you have a loving,an compassinate heart.Simon ,an Jan i have truly enjoyed being here.An the fact that your keeping up with this case,for Haliegh is a blessing.She truly need your voice.
CathyJoe,i went through it a few weeks back remember,the day i went to the Harly meet.That morning,an that evening my attacker just kept comming at me,as well as a threat came from another .So i feel for you.I have enjoyed your comments,an your humor with OJ. I do know your country like me,an its trying when things start,an they just keep one.I am also one who hates ugliness,an a vulgar rude comment.But we love you.An i have never had any problem with you,or see where you ever cause problems.
I for one think if pressure had been place on the Sheffields,or Griffs.Like it has been placed on the croslins.We would have probable herard more lies than Crystal,an MG has already spued out.Also if UC had of tagged,an followed Crystal,she would probably be sitting in jail for a drug bust like the rest.KinP,an Cobra brought out some of Crystals habits,an we know her own dad took drugs out the car she wrecked,so she wouldnt get caught with them when LE came,to write a report.We also know her failures in the state ordered drug test,an her refusal of one,an one failed.
It a known fact that people kidnap their children all the time,during custody fights.
Some are even taking overseas,or to mexico.A childs hair can be cut,an dyed.Parents can say were playing a new game,your name is now (—) an Children follow the leader.the 12,000 begind child support.None of them being given LDT.Crystal told on video she never was given a LDT,i doupt MG was either.An MG stumped me,when in all the videos i never seen her shed one tear..Dad supposed to be ex LE,an knows the ropes,about investigatione,what they look for. Isay all ove this because they 2 have acted strange.It has also been said that the Sheffield,an Griffs side (Johnny was known to block doors with cinder blocks when working.Like barn doors,ect–ect–
So i believ we would have heard some lies comming out from that side,if the pressure had been placed on them.Not saying they took Haliegh,but she would have opened a door,or Left with anyone of them.
As for TN quick reponce with driving an the pic og Haliegh.That could have been a recent school pic,that was in her truck,an hadnt been tsken in yet.Her dispatch days,an working with emergencys she know what would be needed.She could have been saying in the house closer to Rons,She could have knew short cuts.She could have been out that night.Most people keep a jacket in the truck,or near the door,so when going out in the cold that can just grab,it an go.Her LE jacket,may have just been what she wore everywhere,or her favorite jacket.Now she did some heavy sobbing,an cryed later.The emotions i would expect from a grieving grandmother.Could she know something .I just dont know.
As for Ron,an who took car of him.TN health could have pushed her to let Rons grandmother take care of him,an his sister.Maybee she just couldnt afford to keep them,not haveing decent day car,an thought they would be safer with Granny.On things for sure TN wasnt getting any help from Rons dad,an i believ Rons dad is the reason for his anger.A child grows up hurt,an bitter when a dad doesnt want them,or rejects them.Maybee Rons dad was a abuser to TN,an when she got rid of him,he threatened her with taking Ron,an his sister.So Teresa decided it would be better for them to be in a safe home,where he couldnt get to them.Things were different back in TN day trying to raise 2 own her own.
I dont know whos guilty,i can only state an OP,an i do not think Ron,or Misty hurt Haliegh,I think they did just as they said.He went to work,an Misty stayed home with the children,an went to bed.She had been at the hospital with her dad,been out a few daysparting,Seems she was happy to be home,an she was never accused of abuse,or neglect by any of the parents who she babysat for.
In the country there spots where your calls cant go through,she may had the phone go dead on her,an had to charg it.before it could be used later that evening.So much pressure,they could just be trying out theorys(Misty) because she just doesnt know what truly happened.What would be a shame,if a pedifile did abduct her(SO) Only 50 miles from there Somer was dumped.200 unaccounted for SO just over the Georga line.I remember on fruit picker rode the rail,an was hopping off in different small towns raping,an killing wemon.He only left a blood trail in the homes,nothing else.But he got to cocky,an got caught.But many wemon suffered while he rode away in the night in a box car.
We know some homes have been searched an a child was right in that house,or buried out side.Remember the little girl who was buried aliev by her neighbor.That back door,an no forced entry,Prints,or DNA maens nothing.A seasoned child abductor,knows how to slide in an out.Look back through history at children taken,or murdered,an no DNA,or damage to doors,or windows were left.My goodness some have been takin with the whole family inside asleep.
Could just be that theres a Killer in this bunch,an i surly wouldnt be to quick to rule out Joe.Haliegh had been fine untill he came to town.
The murderer of our 2 yr old,had just been back into town only 3 months when that person struck.An our whole family went through this kind of mess.An no one wanted to listen,they just know my niece had done it.After 2 yrs of media,lies,gossip,an LE harressing the He!! out of us.It was proven by our pi to be the one person we kept saying as a family we thought it was.It wasnt one of us.That person after 3 trials finaly got time,when after 30 licks,an a fractured skull to our tiny loved one,That person should have got the DP
NG WOMAN SAID I JUST KILLED MY CHILDREN MOM OF 2 –CALLED 911 —ONE CHILD JUST HANGING ON,ONE DEAD. HOPE MY SPELLINGS OK I GOTA GO SEE THIS
They never should have gotten married period. And what was the reason Flora Hollars gave as the reason they did get married? Because Ronald was worried about getting a statutory rape charge, not because thats what HaLeigh would have wanted.
It does break my heart that Annette Sykes took HaLeigh to see Misty when her and Ronald broke up, and used the little gal to melt Mistys heart strings to go back to HaLeighs daddy.
HaLeigh was nothing but a pawn to Ronald. imo
Lenora said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
They never should have gotten married period. And what was the reason Flora Hollars gave as the reason they did get married? Because Ronald was worried about getting a statutory rape charge, not because thats what HaLeigh would have wanted.
It does break my heart that Annette Sykes took HaLeigh to see Misty when her and Ronald broke up, and used the little gal to melt Mistys heart strings to go back to HaLeighs daddy.
HaLeigh was nothing but a pawn to Ronald. imo
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Did Mrs Sykes tell you that? If not, then I doubt it’s truth especially coming from a lying Croslin.
Hi everyone- what an eventfull day I missed-
CathyJo- Bless your heart , you have been in front of the firing squad , I’m sorry you had to deal with all this crap today, Lenora is one thing , but I also trusted homespain as a friend and that makes it hurt more comeing from her, she is like a snake in the grass
Simon & Jan , I don’t have the privledge of saying that I know both of you personally but I feel like I do and you two have hearts as big as you both, Thank you for all you do , dedicating your own time to help bring justice for HaLeigh, and the last thing you both need is critisism
I think Mrs. Sykes is in this up to her eyeballs, so she holds no clout with me, as I beleive her words are lies.
All of this is Ronald Cummings fault, hes a selfish person and his little daughter paid the price, bottom line.
jAN,sIMON,an CathyJoe i hold all 3 of you in the higest regaurds. I have read,an kept up with each report you have wrote.An Cathys fresh county ways,an honesty id refreshing.
That blog wrote about Drama Queen bullies is a good one for some to go read!!!
If Haleigh was taken to see Misty, its because Misty loved them kids and they called her mama. CS hated that, not to mention that she was mad that Ron got custody and she didn’t and she owed him a lot of money. That sort of stuff can really piss a woman off. Then throw in that her family was probably upset Ron had the kids and felt they were being screwed in the deal, and then CS boyfriend commenting that the kids didn’t want to go back to Ron and Misty’s, which I think is BS. Seems he was taking on CS’s feelings about Ron and involved himself….hmmm, to what extent?
When a reporter looks at you and says, “Did you hear what I just said? They think they may of found Haleigh in the dumpster!” and CS just keeps right on yaking about her friken hair do and how people need to stop talking about her…WELL, tells me that she KNEW Haleigh wasn’t in the dumpster because she knows where she is!!! This is on tape and a live report. Watch it for yourself. Then tell me that is a mother looking for her child or that is concerned for her child!!! Not.
CS is vindictive and angry. She feels she has been wronged by Ron and the courts. I personally beleive that she would conjure up something to allude to: Take the kids, so Ron and Misty can’t have them (her hate runs deep) and take the kids, because no kids, then no court and you can’t make me pay no more $$$$).
Follow the money trail…it usually is the single most source of evil and provides a great motive. *its the ONLY motive Ive seen so far too.
I think Crystal would have been more upset about Amber since she was there first ,longer and had a baby by Ron. Yet there was never an issue. jmo
Why are people on here continuing to bring up something we were all told to DROP!????
I don’t get it! Its like you are purposely trying to start shit again. Why the need to comment?
Please stop.
Drop what?
I bet they called Misty mama, because she took care of them and loved them. CS did not.
I highly doubt they were forced to call her that.
I am sure Crystal was just happy to get away with Ronald and his scandalizes devious ways. His selfishness cost HaLeigh her life. Even on the voice test, Misty says, Ronald had nothing to do with HaLeigh, it even showed in the results that he didn’t LOVE HaLeigh! In the court papers, Crystal states Ronald never had anything to do with the kids when she was around, and I suspect Crystal only seeing her kids every other weekend, probably saw those kids more than Ronald did.
I wonder what those kids saw that weekend Misty went missing, I can only imagine what condition Ronald Cummings was in.
Tobias, sorry, its just that it seems that every other post continues to bring up the topic that Simon told us earlier to stop or he was going to shut down the site, etc. Maybe its not direct name calling at this point, but I think it is direct “instigating” to make it get to that point. Besides, why comment about it? We are supposed to be talking about Haleigh.
Sorry, its just frustrating to keep seeing it over and over and it takes the focus off the topic. Just my opinion, as I can see it starting all over again.
Vaquera – Thanks for the insight. I do want to personally thank you for all the leg work you have put into this. I am 3 hours away so let me know if you need any help.
Oh, I thought there was something that I shouldnt be talking about. Didnt see what exactly you were talking about.jmo
Lenora said,in May 27th, 2010 at 7:35 pm I am sure Crystal was just happy to get away with Ronald and his scandalizes devious ways. His selfishness cost HaLeigh her life. Even on the voice test, Misty says, Ronald had nothing to do with HaLeigh, it even showed in the results that he didn’t LOVE HaLeigh! In the court papers, Crystal states Ronald never had anything to do with the kids when she was around, and I suspect Crystal only seeing her kids every other weekend, probably saw those kids more than Ronald did.
I wonder what those kids saw that weekend Misty went missing, I can only imagine what condition Ronald Cummings was in.
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You said: Misty said “Ronald had nothing to do with HaLeigh, it even showed in the results that he didn’t LOVE HaLeigh!”
WHAT? Ronald had nothing to do with Haleigh, means he had nothing to do with Haleigh…IN regards to her missing. I don’t see where you could twist that to mean something else?
And how do results of Misty’s voice analysis show anything to do with Ron’s love for his daughter?
Sorry, but that is really out there and is taken totally out of context.
No prob. Tobias. Just irritated about it. I have the personality of a middle child, lol.
CathyJo, are you the one who posted a you tube video? or who? can it get posted again….I would like to watch.
Also, who is Cher?
A cousin, not from the hollar side I believe from the croslin side. Hanks relative.jmo
tobias said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
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Tobias, you might want to check court records on that one. Sister Sara had a fight with Amber or Amber’s mom or both. I don’t remember the details because it’s been a long time since I saw it, but it is in the court records.
So did Misty and Chelsea. jmo
Lenora said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
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You’re going to have so much fun when the phone records come out for the week before Misty took off.
Family Feud Gone Wild.
JenM said,in May 27th, 2010 at 7:43 pm No prob. Tobias. Just irritated about it. I have the personality of a middle child, lol.
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Roflmao@ now thats funny as a devil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What video??
Well we know Misty said she came back because Ron called her at GH. That was in one of the tapes. jmo
I cant even imagine what those phone records were like! But if Misty was calling Rons phone and he wasn’t answering, after being so concerned earlier in the night, the hinky meter is high. Now weren’t the cops at Tommy Croslins that night just prior to the 911 call? This is so confusing.
I think Misty’s latest statements about Ron are her acting out, because he is going to give information on her (reportedly). I think the info is in regard to (stuff not on the drug bust tapes), like who she would sell to, who she got drugs from, etc.. I don’t think it is anything to do with Haleigh.
Secondly, I think her statements are driven by the gals in jail with her that are giving her the ‘big sister’ talk about men and how rotten they are and that they will use you. They are instigators, preying on a young girl who is in a whole lot of trouble. They are toughening her up!!! JMO
TTYL.
In the years leading up to that night, Cummings, now 26, had fathered three children and been arrested on drug charges but escaped prosecution. Croslin was a Michigan transplant who quit going to school in the sixth grade and ran off to New Jersey at 15.
Now Cummings and Croslin are awaiting arraignment on the drug charges after undercover investigators orchestrated a series of narcotics buys in December and January that also netted a friend of Croslin’s, one of her brothers and a cousin of Cummings.
The arrests end nearly a year that was both sad because of Haleigh and tawdry in the lives it exposed to a national audience.
Ronald Cummings
Cummings and his 17-year-old girlfriend had been together for a short time when Haleigh disappeared. They’d met months earlier in their Satsuma neighborhood and seen each other at the school bus stop at the end of Tyler Street where Haleigh was dropped off with Croslin’s nephew.
I had never read this before?
They had also talked when Croslin baby-sat Cummings’ youngest son, who lived with a former girlfriend. Croslin warned Cummings he needed to gain custody of the baby because she said the child’s mother was a drug abuser who would sometimes disappear and abandon the boy with whoever had him.
Soon Croslin was baby-sitting for Haleigh and Cummings’ 3-year-old son, Ronald Jr.
so Misty sat for his son whose in custody od someone else? dunno how i missed that!
Anger and a sense of remoteness had marked Cummings for years, said his grandmother Annette Sykes, who reared him and his sister until Sykes’ husband became debilitated by Alzheimer’s. Annette and Kirby Sykes had guardianship of the two children beginning when Ronald was 3. He moved out as his grandfather became increasingly ill and was back with his mother, Teresa Neves, in Sumter County by the time he was a young teenager.
After Cummings graduated from high school in Leesburg, he and his girlfriend moved back to Putnam County. They went to his grandparents in Welaka, where his girlfriend became pregnant, but Cummings had changed, his grandmother said.
“He just had a dirty mouth,” she said. “He was very disrespectful.”
She attributed his ill manners to a bad crowd but found that as her husband – the man Cummings called “Daddy” – worsened and died, her grandson changed, too.
I have changed my name so people won’t confuse me with Tobias. I was the one who came up with the probation/parole info.
Interesting afternoon on here today,huh? We all have fluctuating theories that change as new tapes are released, new ideas are expressed on here. I still don’t know what I will do when this is solved, but I can’t quit now… Addiction is a terrible thing! There has to be a resolution at some point, but sometimes I don’t think we are one day closer to finding out what really happened.
I cant believe after losing one child, Ronald was out putting him in danger by dealing drugs. You would have thought he would have learned. But he is probably mentally messed up from all his drugs, and more than likely Teresa was also doing drugs while pregnant.
“Everything Kirby did at home, Ronald was right with him,” Sykes said. “Every step Kirby took.”
Cummings was never the same after his death in January 2002, she said.
From jail, Cummings said his grandfather had been a guiding force in his life.
“He taught me the basics, you know, be good to your women and your children,” he said. “Work.”
He said he learned right from wrong from his grandfather, and the importance of respect.
“I’m sure he wouldn’t be happy I’m in here, that’s for sure,” he said.
His most serious arrests started after high school.
In October 2001 he was arrested after a Crescent City man said he was threatened at a stoplight and told he would be killed.
He was charged with drug possession in 2002 and 2004, both times after drugs were found with him in cars.
Charges were never prosecuted, according to court records.
Maybe someone here can explain to me why Misty repeatedly keeps saying she knows nothing at all on Haleigh’s disappearance – however why is she down at that river with police pointing out where her body is? Also, blaming her brother and cousin as the suspects? Once again I thought she knew nothing? Maybe that is why she keeps failing those lie detector tests? Either she knows something or doesn’t but these statements are just another one of her fabricated lies! If you lie enough you will get caught up on these lies and yes Misty God is a witness to what you know or have done so one would think this is the time to tell the truth and the truth will set you free!
I find it hard to believe that her brother who also has children could kill another one’s child? Why would her cousin Joe outright kill this baby girl and let the boy live? Furthermore, why would he commit a murder knowing that he will be leaving to go back home and Misty and Tommy could freely go to the police and report him. As Tommy said they feared their lives since Joe is crazy, but that’s bull cuz he would be arrested and put away for life. So many different stories – who knows? I get the feeling that Tommy and Misty are holding this secret with promising to the other never ever to tell anyone, especially the police.
I feel sorry for the grandma who basically turned info over to the police from phone calls that Misty and Tommy made to her. That has to be one of the hardest things to do – but the right thing to do. Bless her for the heartfelt care she has for that little girl (which is not even part of their family) I also am in agreement with her when she said that she hopes that Haleigh was dead before being tossed in the river. Which brings me to this question. Quite a few months ago wasn’t there someone who said that Haleigh had taken accidentally some drugs at a party and died? Also, they said that the body was disposed of in a nearby river? Who ever said that she be questioned again!
Finally, could this case go without anyone arrested since no one knows what to believe or could Misty and Tommy both be charged for this? Either way, if the truth doesn’t come out real soon it looks very probable that Misty will be spending almost her entire life behind bars, since the justice system wants her one way or other – even if it takes these drug charges to put her away for a very very long time. She keeps acting as if she is getting out soon or a minimal sentence time. Not sure if she has heard about the cousin who just got 15 yrs for one felony charge – but Misty wake up and smell the prison walls and call it home. I truly think that she is with holding info on Haleigh’s death for fear of Ron leaving her. Well, she might as well speak up since not only Ron but herself will not ever be together again since the max prison time for her is 120 yrs and wouldn’t surprise me if the judge threw her the book.
respect??
Sheffield, who would be the mother of Haleigh and Ronald Jr., left school in the ninth grade to be home-schooled but never went any further.
Her mother, Marie Griffis, said her daughter was supposed to visit Cummings in Leesburg for a weekend but never came home. Mother and daughter were not often in touch for the next two years, and Griffis said she sometimes did not know where Sheffield was.
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hmmm maybe they did just steal each others kids,14 and never brought her home,omgggggggggg so whose the parent?
“When Crystal was with him, she didn’t have much contact with me,” Griffis said. “She never called me. When I called her, she didn’t return my calls.”
Sheffield, who now lives in Baker County on property beside her mother and stepfather, said drugs including pot and cocaine were part of the lifestyle she and Cummings shared while they were together.
She said Cummings only worked some and the two lived with his mother until they moved in with Sykes in Putnam before Haleigh was born.
“He just didn’t like my family,” Sheffield said. “He just kind of kept me away.”
Sheffield became pregnant with Haleigh at 17. She and Cummings never married but lived with Sykes until their son was born 18 months after Haleigh.
Life with Cummings was difficult, Sheffield said. He was controlling and could be erratic, sometimes with guns.
“I’ve watched him put a gun in his mouth in front of me and Haleigh,” she said.
Have any of you read the comments about our BNN Haleigh blogg on Radionewz Blog? They are commenting over there about what is going on over here at BNN.
“I’ve watched him put a gun in his mouth in front of me and Haleigh,” she said.
After separating in 2005, Cummings was given custody of Haleigh and Ronald Jr. because he had a job with health insurance.
Someone mentioned last night that it is possible someone took a lifeless or dead Haleigh to Ron while he was at work. I agree with this thought. They would not call 911 but take her to her father and expect HIM to make the decision on how to handle the crisis.
Who would have stayed at the MH to clean up & watch Jr?
Who would have driven Haleigh to Rons place of employment?
Was there time for Ron to leave work to bury Haleigh?
Were Rons or Mistys phone turned off for any amount of time that nite?
(preventing phone ping traces)
Misty Cummings
Cummings and the two children were living together when he met Croslin in 2008.
Sykes’ first impression of the petite teen came from the children.
“The kids adored her and she seemed to adore them back,” Sykes said. “I mean they’d cry to go back to her.”
Sykes said she saw another side of her grandson’s girlfriend in the months after Haleigh vanished, when Cummings, Croslin and Ronald Jr. moved in with her.
“You can’t threaten her or do anything to her emotionally or mentally that will affect her,” Sykes said. “She doesn’t have the ability.”
Sykes said even repeated interrogations by investigators had little impact.
“When the sheriff’s department was threatening her and doing all their doings and stuff, it didn’t faze her,” she said.
Sykes said Croslin’s childhood may have dulled her emotionally.
“She basically was here, there and yonder,” Sykes said. “I don’t reckon she knew from one day to the next where she was going to be.”
Croslin was born in Michigan, but the family of five moved to where her father, Hank Croslin Sr., could find drywall work, her parents said. They spent time in Tennessee, her mother’s home state, and Colorado before moving to Florida.
When their daughter was in the sixth grade, they were living in Flagler County.
“I’d send her to the bus stop,” her mother, Lisa Croslin, said. “She’d never get on the bus. If it was a day she wanted to go, she’d go. If it was a day she didn’t want to go, she would hide.”
“She can’t read,” her father said. “She was behind in class just like all of us.”
Reading disabilities run in the family, he said.
“I can’t read at all,” he said.
At about 15, Misty bought a bus ticket under a false name and moved to New Jersey with a boyfriend. After several months and with the help of a social worker, she was found and brought home.
About that time, the Croslins moved to Putnam.
Her father said she began hanging out with Kristina “Nay Nay” Prevatt and Amber Brooks, who is the mother of Cummings’ other son.
Both Prevatt and Brooks have drug arrest histories. The weekend before Haleigh disappeared, Misty was with Prevatt. “That’s where all the trouble started, hanging around Nay Nay and Amber,” her father said.
He said he couldn’t convince her to distance herself from the new crowd. Misty was more trouble than the Croslins’ two sons, he said.
“She was the wildest one,” he said. “She was.”
On Feb. 9, the night after Croslin returned to Cummings’ mobile home from the weekend of partying, Sykes dropped by. She said she was upset that Croslin had gone off and left her grandson without anyone to watch over the two kids.
“I was mad because Ronald let her come back,” she said. “But it’s his house. There wasn’t nothing I could do about it other than be mad.”
By the next morning, Haleigh was gone.
Wow, ron learned how to be good good to women and children. Nope.
And ron was never prosecuted according to court records. Wonder if got a deferment or actually got released with no penalty. Interesting info.
all folks,lol i hadnt read most of that before,dunno how i didnt!
but dang,who are the parents,in each situation,no wonder they didn”t have a chance!
i think though,if it happens….IF that ron and misty were involved from get go,i think maybe they thought at the time a sex offender may be accused,ya know?
they didn’t maybe plan on it getting this outta hand at all,so when the cops said it wasn’t a stranger abduction maybe thats when all the confusion starterd!
IF,not that they did?
Karon- I have never seen that , where can I find that
Tobias??On Feb. 9, the night after Croslin returned to Cummings’ mobile home from the weekend of partying, Sykes dropped by. She said she was upset that Croslin had gone off and left her grandson without anyone to watch over the two kids.
interesting Jaba,I am blown away!
CathyJo63 said,in May 27th, 2010 at 8:08 pm Sheffield, who would be the mother of Haleigh and Ronald Jr., left school in the ninth grade to be home-schooled but never went any further.
Her mother, Marie Griffis, said her daughter was supposed to visit Cummings in Leesburg for a weekend but never came home. Mother and daughter were not often in touch for the next two years, and Griffis said she sometimes did not know where Sheffield was.
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hmmm maybe they did just steal each others kids,14 and never brought her home,omgggggggggg so whose the parent?
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so she just lets her 14 yr old visit an older man for a weekend,omg rofl and she doesn’t see a problem here?
jaba said,in May 27th, 2010 at 8:11 pm Wow, ron learned how to be good good to women and children. Nope.
And ron was never prosecuted according to court records. Wonder if got a deferment or actually got released with no penalty. Interesting info.
a perfect gent!!
Just go onto google and type Radionewz Blog. That will take you to it.
Thanks Cathy, That clears up alot. Misty either lied about going there in the morning to get clothes or she stayed in the car.
Also you can bet there was words from AS to Misty about leaving that week end, I bet thats what the fight on the phone was about with Ron getting hung up on.jmo
JenM,
Ron in the jungle.someone else put it up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwwfM0Sk-vU&feature=fvwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwwfM0Sk-vU&feature=fvw
righttttttttttt AS acted like there was no problem at all,and she was ticked because misty left,thatssssss why she did laundry,wanna bet????
Cathyjo and Lenora went at it today over at the BNN site and ended up getting almost everyone else on that blog involved!!! Thursdays are often quiet days around the Haleigh forums and today was no exception – except for the inhospitable conditions at BNN!! Simon had to enter the blog and threaten to start banning peeps if they didn’t stfu and then Jan showed up and wasn’t happy with the way peeps were talking about their site and even more – disliked how they were talking about her. And vaquera must have upset Lenora when she said she was the most banned person on the internet!!! FGS!! But it got worse!!! Rumors began to circulate that Anne of Ft. Myers, a Topix poster disappeared and Lenora pops up at BNN… with a lot of the same shit to say … omg!!! Anyway, NoFan continues to try to get a mutiny going against the “authors” at BNN for being stupid – but everyone is too busy fighting with each other to pay much mind!! If all this combobulation going on wasn’t enough – the twitter community lost one of it’s own and are they ever pissed about it too!! Thank goodness the twitter community can’t really get along with each other either even in this time of crisis, because some were calling for a forum war with ScaredMonkeys – and most of the Monkeys have no idea wtf is going on even!!! No matter where peeps were hangin’ today they were being quiet and you can bet those snark holsters are belted tight and will be ready for the weekend.
Just a quick comment – how stupid every last one of them in that car, selling to undercover agents! WTF – think if any of them have a brain that with Haleigh missing don’t you think just maybe that the law is out watching and listening to all of their moves – so “Hey, lets go sell drugs to someone we just met! I can bet the croslin kids did not even get to highschool – all dropouts! There’s no other explanation for ignorance – but here’s to the police – Good Job! Can’t get them on murder so we will get them on another felony – BRILLIANT!
Quite a turn around from the best girlfriend he ever had and the kids loving her. When Ron gets arrested Misty is now a dulled emotional wreck,who left Ron without a babysitter. All of a sudden AS turns on Misty. jmo
yea Tobias,toldya she lies!
radio newz
so then,later she turns bout face and denies what she originally said,why? who for?
exactly,and she has the gall to change her story to the world???
i’d say to do that you got some balls or so sure of yourself for a reason!
tobias said,in May 27th, 2010 at 7:32 pm Drop what?
omg your bad 😉
Susie,hate to tell ya but i agree!!!!lol stupid!
No S-T-U-P-I-D!!!!!!!!
That blew me away when i read it!
threatened at a stoplight? whats that remind you of?
In October 2001 he was arrested after a Crescent City man said he was threatened at a stoplight and told he would be killed.
He was charged with drug possession in 2002 and 2004, both times after drugs were found with him in cars.
Charges were never prosecuted,
Karon – just read it , that is bizarre
Radio newz.
Hmmmm….I wish I knew all the inside jargon and name dropping and if it should mean anything to me.
sotrue said,in May 27th, 2010 at 8:24 pm Cathyjo and Lenora went at it today over at the BNN site and ended up getting almost everyone elsle involved**********
*******************it was asked to be dropped and some of us have but
didnt know i controlled others,ask me if i’m gonna lose sleep! Lenora only had an opinion,not a bit mad at her but 2 faced liars i am!
and she’s the reason it kept going an hr later,i rest my case,not another word from me!
Jaba- I’m clueless about that as well, but isn’t it weird that people blog about us blogging, I mean where does it end
Sounds to me like a bunch of bored people just out to make trouble for their own enjoyment. We have all seen this before they come on just to get things started for the fun of it. I just blog on and ignore its all you can do. Let them get to you and they win. jmo
GOODNIGHT EVERYONE SEE YA FRIDAY.
looks the same to me,bnn bloggers vs twitter,
trolls vs bnn!
thats interesting,Ann s!
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Haleigh Cummings is still nowhere to be found.
Many of the people in her extended family, however, keep turning up in the Putnam County jail.
The latest wrinkle in the story has nothing to do with then 5-year-old Satsuma girl’s disappearance. Freddie Wayne Cummings — the uncle of Haleigh’s father, Ronald Cummings — was charged Sunday with firing a gun in public after some family fisticuffs outside a Putnam County bar.
Cummings, a 61-year-old Lake Como resident, was at the Hide Away Bar in the 200 block of Old Highway 17 shortly before midnight Saturday when the hits started coming, according to a Putnam County Sheriff’s Office incident report.
He was with his brother, Jack Lester Cummings, 49, sister, Annie Lee Lucas, 51, and girlfriend, Debra Gray, 58. They were talking about money when things began to escalate, the report said.
The brothers went outside and exchanged blows until Freddie Cummings pulled out a gun and fired twice — once in the air and once in the ground. Bartender Melissa Spoon told the Times-Union Cummings slapped her when she tried to break up the fight and also punched his sister.
Cummings was taken to the Putnam County jail and booked on the gun charge. Bail was set at $504. Domestic and simple battery charges were forwarded to the State Attorney’s Office, according to the Sheriff’s Office.
Each of the feuding family members appeared intoxicated, the report said.
Other witnesses at the bar told deputies the incident was a “family thing.”
Employees at the Hide Away Bar helped raise money for the Cummings family in March, about a month after Haleigh went missing. The fundraiser caused the bar to cancel its annual Bike Week celebration.
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can you just see a fight with this guy involved?
oh no i had nothing to do with this..karon was talking about it ..i read there newz blog and saw that but didnt say anything..they write on ever site not just this one..im not a trouble maker just interested in haleigh being found..
Other witnesses at the bar told deputies the incident was a “family thing.”
what a way for family to behave?
and we wonder why?lol
oh i know sotrue,lol sorry if you think i accused you?? nooo,u posted it and i saw where from??
Sorry I just don’t see anybody in Satsuma with big enough kahunas to take Ron’s heart to him at work after killing her, accidentally or on purpose.
lol i know you’re not,ive never seen a thing from ya? sorry i just couldn’t show the expression on my face!
Lenora said,in May 27th, 2010 at 6:07 pm Misty is covering for Ronald, its obvious.
If Ron were involved with Haleigh’s disappearance, one could say that Misty would cover for him since she is in love with him. But Tommy is not in love with Ron, so he would certainly not cover for him. Therefore, it is much more likely that someone else, and not Ron, caused Haleigh’s disappearance. Else, Tommy would have fingered Ron long before this.
Both Misty and Tommy are guilty of doing something they shouldn’t have on the night of Haleigh’s disappearance, possibly drug-fueled. Otherwise, they would not be lying so desperately and consistently.
My opinion is that they don’t want to admit what they were doing even to their own family. It is possible that Haleigh discovered it and that this led to her demise. If this is the case, then Misty and Tommy alone are responsible and they are fingering anyone they can to deflect blame from themselves.
Lastly, I suspect that Ron may have some information, or at least suspicions, about what Misty and Tommy were doing. This would be the testimony that he could provide in exchange for a plea deal.
sotrue said,in May 27th, 2010 at 8:24 pm Cathyjo and Lenora went at it today over at the BNN site and ended up getting almost everyone elsle involved**********
*******************it was asked to be dropped and some of us have but
didnt know i controlled others,ask me if i’m gonna lose sleep! Lenora only had an opinion,not a bit mad at her but 2 faced liars i am!
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Oh sorry Sotrue,I scrolled up to see how i accused you,i know it looked that way.i shoulda said,since they won’t drop it……my apologies!
brb phone
i was reading a story there one day true story to..the headline read *women runs over lord jesus christ*..this happened in maryland and thought oh my god to have to live with that name,,the off confirmed it was on his license.lol
“snark holster”…thats humorous, not funny..
but worthy of a moments ponder.
Does anyone no if Amber had a paternity
test done ?
i think its sad the way rc used his son to try to lure ambers son out to steal him.her mom was scared to death according to police report.all she was guilty of then was taking care of the child.
Chakra:
It is weird to have our blog commented on. Isn’t it?
Nice post, Jan; very important to bring the focus back around to HaLeigh. I wish you would have mentioned Johnny/Marty Sheffield, too. I’d like him to be questioned for hours upon hours as well.
sotrue,I saw a guy on judge joe brown his name was ODear God! Think thats it,may have been My God! lol
SoTrue,I wonder why ron wanted him,if he apparently never had before??
hmmm wonder if it crossed somebodys mind to take his? just thinking out loud!
well gee,brb again
Lenore said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
I cant believe after losing one child, Ronald was out putting him in danger by dealing drugs. You would have thought he would have learned. But he is probably mentally messed up from all his drugs, and more than likely Teresa was also doing drugs while pregnant.
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Doing drugs while pregnant like Crystal?
Lenore when I read your posts, part of me feels like I’m swaying on top of the arch in St. Louis, Missouri. And the other part of me feels like singing “VIVAAAAAAAAA Las Vegas!”
Poor HaLeigh. Hope she is found soon and some of these vultures go away and leave all her innocent family members in peace!
yep i think hes crossed alot of people.ya just never no.could even been someone you snitched on you have to be careful there.
right Sotrue,exactly!
Mrs Sykes seems like a decent woman to me.I believe she would tell the truth,as aposed to Mrs Hollers just repeating gossip.Except for the call between her an Tommy.The one where she placed Joes name,in Tommys mouth.
Mrs Sykes simply state what she did at 7:30 that evening .Taking Haliegh,an Jr Clean cloths.Haliegh comming out kissing her,Misty comming out helping take in the cloths,where the children were eating, on the picnic table on the porch,or at the kitchen table.They put shirts on the children(probably had had a bath) an was waiting for clean shirts.Mrs Sykes stated Misty seemed alright,not stoned out of her head.An that the children were fine,eating supper.It probably took about 30 min,so id say she left there around 8,or a little after.
But it has never been said by Mrs Sykes that she took Haliegh an went to look for Misty when they were broke up.Ive been following this case sence the beginning,talking to Hank,an Lisa,an ive never heard that before.
Fact Misty was caring for the children that night.
Fact Ron was at work.Finger print scanner,LE has never Disputed it.
Fact Mrs Sykes says she went by the home.LE hasnt disputed that.
Fact Halieghs Missing.A precious little girl who deserved to be living,an enjoying her summer.At the becach,in the river swimming.Riding her bike.Playing with her little brother.Fighting over who got to see what kid movie first lol.Running an playing.She wasnt ours.But we have grown to love her.
I am upset at some of the things that has surficed on all 3 families.But not one of them knew that that night could be Halieghs last.Ron has seen Misty keeping his children.He knew wheather she took good care of them.If they loved her,an trusted her..Crystal,Teresa,Mrs Sykes,Chelsea,many said the children loved Misty,an G Hollers,Chelsea TN,more said she was good with children.I dont think she just jumped up a became a cold blooded killer that night.
Now we know a accident could have happened,an paniced cover.
But if Joe was mean enough to rape Misty,he may be mean enough to rape a child.Who knows.We havent seen him stoned,or in a rage,nor have we seen Tommy stoned ,an in a rage.Misty did say these two ((could)) be involved.An that they were F—up that night..I think Misty has tried from the start to tell LE what she could remember,an now that shes dryed out she may remember more.
I just dont ever want someone to go down for a child murder,if they arnt guilty.An with no evidence,or body Who really knows what happened.An of course the last person with the children would be called the key.
One poster stated that it would be good if Misty was evaluated mentaly.I agree.
I believe she was used by many,an acted like shes seen everyone else act when doing a drug deal,she was stoned in those videos.But that still didnt show me shes a killer.
I know everyone knows i didnt agree with the bust.As in being charged with the states (pills uc used) but all others i think they should be charged with.If they set it up,an got their own pills to sell uncover.I pray at least those 200 uc slid on them,no money passed,an none sold,right when he knew that LE WAS GONA ROLL UP,AN BUST THEM.i HOPE THOSE CAN GET THROWED OUT.
I know about drug bust,what a real one is.What devices they have that they can use to get you on audio,or tape.That wasnt a normel bust.When it comes to cleaning up street drugs off our streets.For her/them to face the same time,as those on the 15 mill dollar drug bust that took place in Fla,about 4 months ago.
Misty/Ron,an others will get the same time,as those well orginized drug dealers get,Misty,an Ron are on the same amount of bonds as that group smuggling large quanities in from Mexico.Uncut meth,uncut coke pills,money guns,their own survalence system.An Misty ,an Ron are facing what these big time,long term dealers are facing.Its not equal,an not right.Thats my OP on it.
I just think this case was over PCSO head.As in knowing how to investigate this type case.They have already posted once that new eyes,an ears were brought aboard,i think just before that pond being drained. I know FBI,an FDL were brought in in the beginning,but they dont go over the counties investigation.
I remember that when investigators,FBI was speaking to Cindy Anthony,when she was fussing about a woman saying she, an her son had spotted Caylee,Cindy said LE wasnt checking up on it..FBI Let her know it was that counties case.They only stepped in if those over the case,wernt doing their job,or were illegal in something they did,while ver the case.
Look how long it took for them to check the dumpster,an they only checked the land fill for Haliegh,when Somner was found in one near there.That should have been 2 top things on the list.
Like they waited so long in little Gabriel Johnsone case,in searching the land fills,an dumpsters.
I know its a crazy case,all children who go missing with out a trace is awful.It was just made worse by all 3 famileis,an their actions,an habits in Halieghs case.
I think Investigators,an The Sherriff have worked hard on Halieghs case,an i know they want to solve it,an bring Haliegh home,for closure even if its just one bone.Arrest,if just for neglect should have taken place,in the beginning.Charges could have always been dropped,if no wrong doing was there.But it would have given a chance to apply pressure early on in this case.
But i see many things that i would have checked out,many people i would have pressured. way over a yr.an theys have followed Misty as the key this whole time,because she was the last one with the children.
Today we still have no anwsers,or Haliegh.I know we all talk about them,its shocking to some how they live.But i have lived near,an known people like that,that some were bad,an some were good as gold,as people.They just had habits.
Yes drugs are bad,if taken the wrong way,or sold,or bought with out having a DR,an getting your own percription,only if needed.But i take them every day,large doses,an high doses.I need them,as my health isnt great,i have 3 bad health issues.
I take opieds everyday,an im not abusing my children ,or grandchildren.Or wanting to murderer them.They only make me sleep real deep.A bomb could go off,an i wouldnt hear it.I have seen Misty sober in quite a few videos.An ive seen her Ron,an Crystal under the influence in some.
Seems Haliegh going missing ,really exposed much drug use,an dealing in that small Putnam county.Why had it not been cleaned up before now.Some LE,Grandmas,Parents,an teenagers.all accused of drug use.
Its a crying shame,that it had got that bad there.Why no drug task before this was exposed.When Misty called 911 crying about,being hurt when her purse was snatched,all to do with trying to by drugs.Why wasnt that apt complex raided right then.Or that shady motel.I wonder if those motel grounds were ever searched for the baby?
Hey guys just in ….I did read to the radiobiz
link. Omg. That is funny. It is only funny because there is a little truth in it. However,
looks like everybody has taken off their boxing
gloves and are back to looking for Haleigh.
So tonight I am going to bed thinking Ron done
it. There will be more news that will change
my mind tommorrow.
Karon – I think so , it feels creepy like people are watching us,
I remember seeing Chrystal on I believe ng saying she took a LDT.She asked if cs passed it & she said the guy said it looked good but had to send it somewhere to be analyzed.RC & MC said they passed with fying colors.If they sent one off they would have to send all off somewhere. jmo I don’t think any of us know 100% of the truth.
CathyJo! You got a mention on the RadioNewz blog today – gettin’ famous, girl!
Jan, that was a beautifully written article and I agree that we will probably never know exactly what happened. I also feel that this site should always be respectful to the little girl Haleigh, who has disappeared from this earth, as far as we know. I strive, when I DO write, to keep this in mind at all times, and not act like this site is for personal enjoyment. If the shoe were on the other foot, I’m sure any other person would like their loved one’s (like Haleigh’s ) memory and all of the attendant circus surrounding it handled with the utmost integrity and dignity.
mc didnt even have a record id be willing to gamble on who trained her.and then youve got these uc cops begging her to do the deal broke no job entrapment and now a record.sorry way to bring in someone for a crime there not even wanting them for.
I think this is new.. Haleigh great grandmother RUBY
http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/23699119/haleigh-cummings-case-ruby-kanger.htm
Cathyjo was thinking yesterday about what you posted today. If your living there is HOPE. I pray for the lovely missing child + everyone in this case that has had there life played out in the media. I admire everyone on this site thst have been brave enough to share their personal experiences. Jan shared a part of her life experience + for that I thank her. Hope my life isn’t played out in the media. My life has parts that I’m not too proud of owning.
How do we know that during the course of investigating mc, or rc, that people didn’t tell cops of ron and mistys penchant for using and selling pills.
Wouldn’t they have to act on a tip like that? If another floridian said they had drug activity on their block and told cops, they wouldn’t make a report and check it out?
Seems like the current jailees let the cat out of the bag and got into a deal to make money off of illegal scripts.
Could the grandparents and their life style drugs/alcohol given birth to these young adults that were effected at birth? We’ve all heard what could happen to the development of a child that is born due to this. No Conscience, no sense of right or wrong. It seems like LE has run into a brick wall with these people. I’m not excusing anyone just trying to find answers.
sotrue said,in May 27th, 2010 at 9:45 pm mc didnt even have a record id be willing to gamble on who trained her.and then youve got these uc cops begging her to do the deal broke no job entrapment and now a record.sorry way to bring in someone for a crime there not even wanting them for.
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exactly sotrue..set up and knocked down..
thats psco’s best LE work to date..
FRAMING an innocent! because they can’t see beyond their nose.. The sheriff’s son was dealin under his nose! what a joke LE is,
they couldn’t find their own arses if you handed it to them!
We don’t think ron blabbed to cops he was a dealer and cops said ‘hey, buy from us’ and ron did, do we?
OMG what a log post lol ((sorry)).CathyJoe your 8:44 i know two bars out in the country from here just like the one,with the family brawl in it.Not at the beach where i live but near here.I used to ride over there on Fridays,an just sit with a few girl friends i knew,when we had cook outs.It was like comady central.
Now i grew up a fighter,taking care of my 3 younger sisters,an baby brother he died at 29.Anyway at the old club about 20 miles from here.One evening a old gal got jealous of her man,i had known him for yrs,an sure didnt want him.But she swung on me,popped me right in the eye.LOL Boy was it ON then,i knew the owner well,he let us fight it out,then he barred her,after.I put a old fashion azz cutting on her.
A big tall gal,way bigger than me.Come to find out she was coked up,had been doing it out side all evening.Thats what had her crazy.So i know about those kind of places.
CathyJoe i wish we lived close to each other we would take a ride up to Putnam,an find out some things for our selves.
sotrue said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
i think its sad the way rc used his son to try to lure ambers son out to steal him.her mom was scared to death according to police report.all she was guilty of then was taking care of the child.
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that is totally not true. That rumor started and ended on the rumor thread at Websleuths. How do you lure a baby out the door? LOL You don’t because it never happened. That was a local who said it was from reliable source but apparently they weren’t too reliable.
vaquera, I remember listening to that 911 call. Amber’s grandma hardly seemed frightened. I remember hearing all the laughter in the background during the call. Another reason why I have kept Amber and her momma on my radar.
How do you lure a baby out the door? LOL
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LoL With a bottle of formula??
j/k lol but thats funny!
how do you have two mentally challenged kids by two different women? …
sumptin ain’t right in putnam county..
jus sayin.
whylie,actually i wondered why she wasn’t all excited!
you and me Jan!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe mentallys the wrong word but what gives?
-hazzard said,in May 27th, 2010 at 9:53 pm Cathyjo was thinking yesterday about what you posted today. If your living there is HOPE. I pray for the lovely missing child + everyone in this case that has had there life played out in the media. I admire everyone on this site thst have been brave enough to share their personal experiences. Jan shared a part of her life experience + for that I thank her. Hope my life isn’t played out in the media. My life has parts that I’m not too proud of owning.
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Right withya!!!!!!!!!
They found 5 dealers plus the sherriffs son and now white boy greg.
So i heard Jason…..rofl.can you believe that! maybe padilla will buy me a car?? hmmm
rons the only common denominator..
did he mess up his insides or were all three on the same stuff? hmmmmmmmmm do oxies cause birth defects?..seems too coincidential to be a coincidence.
I’ve heard misty sdmit to charges from jail tapes.
I watched hope plead after her 3rd arrest for drugs. One in the previous week or two before her last arrest.
i dont lie and yes there is a pcso report on it and who was there.along with another guy..why call me a lier when i read the report dont just come up and call me a lier not nice not away to put it.
florida child services should have been on this at ron’s first childs birth..
wasn’t there a big ta do in florida a couple years ago about child services? When jeb bush was governor? and his daughter was an addict right? writin phony scripts?
Could there be Revenge and a Motive? What do you think?
We now know that in the evening hours of April 20, 2009, the police stopped, picked up and arrested two young girls for cocaine possession. These two girls are Amber Brooks 20, and Kristina Rene “Nay-Nay” Pravatt, 19.
Now why on earth is this important? Well, because Amber is an ex-girlfriend of Ron Cummings (Haleigh’s father) and she is also the mother of a boy child – Jordan, fathered by Ron. Amber Brooks is also the mutual enemy of 17-year old Misty Croslin who is now Ron’s wife. Amber was with Ron until Misty came along. Misty, one might say seduced Ron away from Amber. The mother of Amber Brooks is said to be facing a battery charge for having assaulted an underage 16-year old Misty Croslin back in September of 2008. Sometime in early November 2008, Misty and Amber are said to have been engaged in some verbal war which resulted in Misty leaving this charming message on Amber’s myspace page: “i got ur man and i will have ur baby to”
Another comment left on Ambers Myspace page from Misty: ” She is a crack whor her baby is fucked up cause of her doing durgs what a big hoe”
And if all this were not enough, it is said that Amber and Misty got into some testy face-to-face physical confrontation during the weekend of February 5-8, 2009!
The timing of events is important here! The ongoing bitch fight between Amber Brooks her mother and Misty Croslin plus the timing of this subsequent arrest, which may just be by pure chance or fate, cannot be a happy coincidence.
We have got to remember that behind every human action there is motive.We have got to remember that behind every human action there is motive.
Kristina Renee aka “Nay-Nay” was both cupid and chauffeur for Misty during her last weekend away from her then boyfriend, Ronald Cummings. This last weekend of girlfriend revenge against her man took place during the period of February 5 – 8, 2009!
Later, on April 20, 2009, Haleigh is missing and both Amber and Kristina are buddy-buddy, found doing drugs together, subsequently arrested and jailed.
Did Amber and Nay-Nay show up at the trailer that night to threaten Misty. Did Nay-Nay go to the door while Amber stayed back in the car? Were they planning to ambush Misty? Perhaps and maybe Misty wasn’t there – but Haleigh was.
So now Misty speaks up and decides to say ” the other side of the family took her”
Now which side?
Crystals side? or Ambers side?
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I stole that post,was interesting to say the least,lol
on mistys lva when shes asked if anyones telling her what to say inac.he loves his child inac.i get hit for no reason at all inac tommy and joe did it deception.i no where hailegh is inac.
Bush’s daughter was caught filling a false prescription in 2002.
After reading some of the articles on here ,I just have to say my heart literally hurts for Misty, she was 17 years old thrown into this situation, yes I know she made bad choices, who hasen’t at 17, but trust me on this no woman wants to be treated the way she was, no woman choses that. Misty believed her only worth was that of a sexual object, and as a young woman myself (not nearly as young as Misty) that breaks my heart and no one deserves to feel that way jmo
what sotrue?? lol
right Chakra,did you see the ones i posted just a bit ago? I had never seen those before!
jaba said,in May 27th, 2010 at 10:11 pm They found 5 dealers plus the sherriffs son and now white boy greg.
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probably 1000 to go,lol
CathyJo @ 10:11, you could call in to the NG show when Padilla is on, and ask him (to buy you a car).
the voice test.
CathyJo, J/K!
vaq if i got a part of the report wrong tell me.what part did i get wrong and ill accept it ok not trying to be mean.
Jason,I really was gonna call n/g….forgot till you said that,lol
CathyJo63 said,in May 27th, 2010 at 10:27 pm Could there be Revenge and a Motive? What do you think?
We now know that in the evening hours of April 20, 2009, the police stopped, picked up and arrested two young girls for cocaine possession. These two girls are Amber Brooks 20, and Kristina Rene “Nay-Nay” Pravatt, 19.
Now why on earth is this important? Well, because Amber is an ex-girlfriend of Ron Cummings (Haleigh’s father) and she is also the mother of a boy child – Jordan, fathered by Ron. Amber Brooks is also the mutual enemy of 17-year old Misty Croslin who is now Ron’s wife. Amber was with Ron until Misty came along. Misty, one might say seduced Ron away from Amber. The mother of Amber Brooks is said to be facing a battery charge for having assaulted an underage 16-year old Misty Croslin back in September of 2008. Sometime in early November 2008, Misty and Amber are said to have been engaged in some verbal war which resulted in Misty leaving this charming message on Amber’s myspace page: “i got ur man and i will have ur baby to”
Another comment left on Ambers Myspace page from Misty: ” She is a crack whor her baby is fucked up cause of her doing durgs what a big hoe”
And if all this were not enough, it is said that Amber and Misty got into some testy face-to-face physical confrontation during the weekend of February 5-8, 2009!
The timing of events is important here! The ongoing bitch fight between Amber Brooks her mother and Misty Croslin plus the timing of this subsequent arrest, which may just be by pure chance or fate, cannot be a happy coincidence.
We have got to remember that behind every human action there is motive.We have got to remember that behind every human action there is motive.
Kristina Renee aka “Nay-Nay” was both cupid and chauffeur for Misty during her last weekend away from her then boyfriend, Ronald Cummings. This last weekend of girlfriend revenge against her man took place during the period of February 5 – 8, 2009!
Later, on April 20, 2009, Haleigh is missing and both Amber and Kristina are buddy-buddy, found doing drugs together, subsequently arrested and jailed.
Did Amber and Nay-Nay show up at the trailer that night to threaten Misty. Did Nay-Nay go to the door while Amber stayed back in the car? Were they planning to ambush Misty? Perhaps and maybe Misty wasn’t there – but Haleigh was.
So now Misty speaks up and decides to say ” the other side of the family took her”
Now which side?
Crystals side? or Ambers side?
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I stole that post,was interesting to say the least,lol
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I saw that interview and imo misty was talking about crystal’s side..
CathyJo- I did , Thankyou I had not seen those either
OJ my daughter is a director of children’s service in Florida. Not the county Haleigh would be in. Florida has privatized DCFS It’s contracted out to other organizations. Everyone seems to blame dcfs first but they don’t realize how tied their hands are because of the court system. She worked in Ohio for 11 years before her move to Florida and she says Florida is at least 10 years behind. The funniest thing that happened to her is a Jamaican put a HEX on her because she lost her children. But she has a lot of sad tales too.
ky mom said,in May 27th, 2010 at 9:46 pm I think this is new.. Haleigh great grandmother RUBY
http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/23699119/haleigh-cummings-case-ruby-kanger.htm
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no this is old…Sunday June28,2009
I got ya judithan..I know goverment moves like molassess..single cogs in the wheel are not responsible..and thats the problem.
right OJ,I saw it when that subject came up a second ago so posted it!!!!!!
because there was a time i heard about ambers baby almost being >stolen< and mistys myspace post to her.and i even kinda wondered if maybe she would be capable of doing it to ron and misty in retaliation?
I do know,well atleast in Ky when i lived up there,they gave mothers toooooo many chances…….believe me i have seen it!!!!!!!
so it’d be hard to lose custody for a mother and if finally she did,it was bad?? just sayin
yvw Chakra!!!
I attend a court ordered FOR PROFIT class..
if I miss a class I get the boot and have to go back to court to be reinstated..the FOR PROFIT class uses and CLOGS up the court system to insure they get their blood money..they use the court system to ensure their payments..their vermin.
sotrue said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
vaq if i got a part of the report wrong tell me.what part did i get wrong and ill accept it ok not trying to be mean.
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Ron didn’t send Jr to the door to lure out Jordan and he didn’t send a black guy either. He was seen in the parking lot by Amber’s mother, or so she says, and she told her mother and her mother called the police. That was it.. I didn’t think you were trying to be mean, it just gets frustrating when all those unproved rumors/lies that started at the board went all over the net as truth even though they knew it was from a rumor thread. 🙂
Who had a motive that could be behind Haleigh being gone?
Motives: Money, Revenge, Jealousy, Anger, Sexual, Drugs/Guns, Gang Activity, ….?
Non motives, but causes: Accidents, Psychotic behavior, ….?
Motives and non motives leading to lies? All of them.
Who lied? Everyone.
Motives:
Money:(CS) possibly gang, possibly joe
Revenge: (CS, Amber, Sheffields, Gang)
Jealousy (CS, Amber, Misty, Sheffields)
Anger (CS, Amber, Sheffields)
Sexual (Tommy, Joe, ?stranger)
Drugs/Guns (Tommy, Joe, Misty)
Gang Activity (?gang….)
Non-Motives:
Accidents (Misty, Tommy, Joe, Nay-Nay and anyone)
Psychotic behavior (Misty, Tommy, Joe, Nay-Nay and anyone)
Is this the second story of misty flaunting herself being with ron?
Hey Cathy Jo
Where in Ky did you live?
Jen,all involved in some way or another,lol
not funny but still……..lol
KyMom,letcher co,
KyMom,the part of ky that was so poor we had to use hoot owls for chicken! lol
In the ‘system’ huh?
jenM: you forgot stranger abduction..
That is were I am from.lol
Jenkins ky
No doubt huh! I sometimes have to categorize things in my mind so they make sense.
Seems that whole gang has gone quiet, eh?
Well, I know that I will not ever want to watch NG again and I thought I would never say that! The was she was to Mark Klass did it for me. Serious. I am still in shock over that.
WhyLie said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
vaquera, I remember listening to that 911 call. Amber’s grandma hardly seemed frightened. I remember hearing all the laughter in the background during the call. Another reason why I have kept Amber and her momma on my radar.
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exactly. Then Amber’s mother took off for VA not long after that incident. Why didn’t Amber’s mother call if she was the one that supposedly saw him, instead of Amber’s grandma.
thanks i just read the report guess the part about jr was false..
you’re lyin kymom???????
omg,i don’t mean youre lying about that,lol I mean it like,unbelieveable!!!!!lord lets not start another brawl,lmbo!!!!
noooooo get out kymom,get out!!!!!!!!
No really.lol
I think the whole county has only 4 traffic lights.lol
The reason I got interested in this case is because me and my husband lived in Mcclenney fl for about a year and a half. And that is were Crystal and her family are from.
my God,thats not 20 min apart…
gimme 2 letters of your last name?
not all on here? 2 letters
yea and maybe 500 ppl plus 1 grouch! lol
shoot,alot of my family both birth and adopted came from mudtown hill?
Macclenny Fl. was about the size of Whitesburg when I lived there which has been several years ago.lol
Do you still have family in Letcher county?
i guess the worlds smaller than what i thought! lol
god,full of em!!!!! I am the only one in TN!
i lived there 36 yrs,all but 11 of the last ones.lol
all my life,sorry
still sorta goofed,lived there 36 yrs,11 here! lol
OJ, stranger is listed (above) under sexual.
From what I have researched, actual ‘stranger’ abduction is really rare. However, with 50 pedophiles living on your block, I guess your chances go up!
if you say your last name begins with mu i will just die?
alot of those in jenkins,lol
Susie,Simon has a thread,with audio of Tim Miller stating that Misty while riding with him,an Ron,12 days he hung out with them..Showed him around 4 places,that Tommy/an/or Joe hung out.
That was way back when Tim Miller set up the LDT/Voice Test.So its been a long time 9 months maybe.Tim said he didnt search the river at that time,economy was bad,funds low,an he didnt believe her.But now that same spot was searched after Tommy led them to it.If searched,many many months ago.Could Haliegh have been found there,if in fact she was dumped in that river.
.So they took Misty down to verify that was the spot im sure.I dont know if Tim told LE way back then,an LE just chose not to search on Misty word only,to Tim.Listen to his audio.
There was also 3 other wooded spots she pointed out to Tim Miller .I wonder if they have been searched?.Joes known to get high as well as Tommy..However Tommy just admitted to Lindsey a short time back that he has snorted coke,& smoked crack.Misty told on a jail call that Tommy was known to hang out in the woods to smoke crack.That Joe didnt know the area well.So if he was out,an about with the van,he would have most likly picked Tommy up.
This bing rumor>That Tommy had showed Misty the river landing/with dock a month before they were arrested.An she was there to verify it was the same spot Tommy showed her.
Now all along no one believed Misty when she said Tommy could be involved,After his failed test,an confession about his part.We know here that Tommy was involved,as many want to think they cracked this case.
So Misty has also implicated Joe.She said if Tommy was involved Joe was to. So if she was right about Tommy, i tend to believe Joe was involved to.As she told the truth as to Tommy.I tend to believe because Tommy,an Joe were close to the same age,an cousins.That Tommy knowing all the places to cop dope from there.
That Tommy,an Joe were hanging out together during his stay.We know Tommys will steal,an Joes a even bigger theif on the chane,because he stole a automoble,an served time for it.I can picture those two out getting stoned Tommys prefrence being pills.But they could have even been speed balling that night Narcotics,an coke together.Using them at the same time,can make a person very strange.An i have seen many violent off of crack/
So if Tommy goes to the woods to smoke crack,an Joe was hanging out with him.We have a Van that had been in the woods somewhere,or a field,due to the twigs in the now broken headlight,an scratch on the van that didnt have it the day before.
They could have very well been on crack,an we all know 20,00 a pop,that many have been known to smoke it all night spending every dime they have.They could have wanted more,one hits not enough,like one pill snorted isnt,but a pill will last longer as a high than a hit of crack.
So riding around thinking some where to break into,they could have thought of Rons gun,an Misty being there alone with the children.Sliding by an sneaking in.Trailor doors are easy to pop open with a knife,They could have went in the front,an blocked the back on the way out making it look like a —.
In the mean time Haliegh woke up,may have wet the bed again,got up to change her shirt an panties,thats when she saw one,or both of them digging around where daddy his his guns.Snatching her up,putting a hand over her mouth ran out the door with her,knowing she would tell her dad,they rode back through the woods thinking what to do.
Why i say theres a chance Misty could have slept through it.Im telling you these pills im on i would sleep through anyone comming in my house.My Son,Grandaughter,an teen friends have stood over me the longest seeing if i would wake,when i have went to sleep on the couch..Laughing about my snoring.I never knew they were there,untill they told me the next day,or shook me an woke me up.
Misty may have slept through it.If she had taken anything,or was drying out from her weekend,that makes one sleepy also.Run down exausted,an over sleepy,if with drawl symptoms hadnt set in heavy yet.
I just have so many theories,an still no anwsers.This is just one of my thoughts.Of course it could just all be a theory,or made up story to get out.None of them may have done Haliegh any harm,out of these 3.But Misty was there,an Tommy has placed his self there,an if those 2 were,i believe Joe was to.He showed signs of deception according to a body language expert.Misty could be guilty.But everone has been so hell bent on her being a killer,an is being spread through the news as the key,like i said of corse she is,she was the care taker that night.
Who do we believe?
Damn good question Jan !!!
I believe in my intuition and instincts. I know not everyone thinks the same about this case , but I have to believe my gut feelings on all of this. My feelings may not be right on this one , but I’ve been exactly right on other cases where I never believed the original story from a suspect(s). I’m not going to go into my theory about what happened to Haleigh , but I so believe in it that it’s the only reasonable explanation of what happened. Common sense just tells me from all the lies from the ex-newlyweds that they are the one responsible for Haleigh coming up missing. I always hope that the truth will come out and will be the first to admit that I was wrong in my thinking , but I think the truth will never come out. The ones who I believe are responsible are only thinking about themselves and not justice for Haleigh.
did anyone see the investigators couple weeks ago on the micheal blagg case.when he called 911.he said i just got home from work and theres blood all over the bed, when questioned he said and the back door is open.he told the cops he had tried calling and calling and couldnt reach her.just a few red flags
No its not. But I know alot of Mu.lol
Well I’m gonna hit the hay. See you all tomm.
Night Cathy JO….
And BTW Cathy Jo. I miss counted the traffic lights they added one we now have 5.lol
Remember the Milgard case where Police and Doc’s repeatedly told him their version of what happened and that he must of had a mental illness blocked it out but did do it. He actually began to believe them so much so he told his Mother he did do it and had a mental illness that caused him to block committing the murder. Remember the two guys that were tested by Calgary City Police (lie detector test) and both passed both were testifying against Milgard and both given lighter sentences for drug charges they were caught on. Later when DNA proved Milgard did not do it the guys said they lied because Police pressured them. So there you have two guys who pass test when they are lying but they were testifying for a Police department that was in conversation with the Department where the murder happened ( Sasatoon) With the Saskatoon police they agreed to make the deal over the drugs for the guys if they would testify for Milgard but both had to take a test first and what do you know they both passed but were lying. In the states a serail killer abducts a 12 year old and kills her she was not found for 12 years. The parents recently divorced and it was bitter with accusations of alcohol and domestic violence. The Police were convinced the Father did it because of that and the family had a pass word that only the parents knew or so they thought. The father took two lie detector test and failed both. Both test were given by the LE agencies that believed in the Father’s guilt. 12 years later a 10 year old girl is abducted and she is found quickly sadly she was murdered her abductor/killer makes a deal with that department and gives the murder details 12 years earlier. He was a family friend that just happened to have big ears to hear the password because he was planning the murder. My point in these stories is that LE can cause false confessions out of desperation and can cause false results out of belief of guilt. Do you really think the machines in the aboves stories malfuctioned causing the false results? No the machines did not fail it was the testers. The false confessions and Milgard believing he was mentally ill and did do it was as result of pressure and confinement. Pressure and confinement is a tactic to use but one has to be careful not to go to far. I hope that is not what has happened in this case. Mr. Hardy will never get anything from Misty he is not it, nor is Greenwood, or that hand waving guy or Jason. Lies and manipulation are run of the mill. Mr.Hardy had a chance to show different in addressing the 911 call where he never answered the question or the issue becuase it was Misty. Trust is important but it has to be with the right source. Right on right side on everyting all the time even if it’s over a bag of chips stolen and treat all with respect and no Jugement. What is with blocking a survivor of abuse in. A man in front of her one blocking the side having a “Moment” and another blocking the back in. WTFlip is that? Every emotional and mental guard is going to go up and every trust goes out the window. One can see why they are going in cirles. I really question if this child is in fact dead or that she was taken to that location at the River. I question everyting about the LE in this case because I don’t trust them because they don’t deserve it. I still believe Tommy is lying through his teeth. That guy is so full of crap it’s amazing he hasn’t turned into a toilet. JMHO
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
Thanks Jan great article
Simon & Jan…
I’m new here so I would like to thank you both for your hard work. BNN site is where I come to wind down before bed.
I have followed the Haleigh Cunnings case early on. We all pray one day the truth will come out of what really happened to Haleigh. My heart goes out to Hank & Lisa. The Misty and Hank DVD really showed Hank’s pain. He fells Misty is keeping something back. He knows his daughter is going to prison for the drug charges. So is Tommy, to whom his wife is leaving him. She says, she not going to allow him to his grandchildren anymore. No matter the mistakes he has made as a father, it does not change the love he has his family. No parent would want to be in The Croslin’s shoes right now.
Be it good or bad. He just wants the truth. We all do.
I want to know what professional has diagnosed any one to having a mental illness ???!!! It’s a typical liberal response to blame a mental illness on all this. I’ve watched all these people from day one and NO ONE will ever convince me that any of them suffer from some mental illness !!! Unlees you are a professional who deals with this type of stuff , stop with the BS that they may suffer from a mental illness !!!
CathyJoe interesting about NayNay,an Amber.
I heard it said also that Jr told LE that it was a woman who took sissy.(rumor or fact i dont know)I know when i saw him an his mom on Geroldo,i didnt believe it then.Because she was leading him.An she said he said a black man to her.But i never seen the child anwser any of it.Or say it his self.
Theres many who could of taken Haliegh as a revenge thing,against Ron,or Misty.
JenM said,in May 27th, 2010 at 11:17 pm OJ, stranger is listed (above) under sexual.
From what I have researched, actual ’stranger’ abduction is really rare. However, with 50 pedophiles living on your block, I guess your chances go up!
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yes your right I stand corrected..
may I just say..
polly klass – stranger abduction
elizabeth smart – stranger abduction
jon benet ramsey – stranger abduction
Simon and Jan thanks for all your articles. I’m glad it’s calmed down here. :)) I come here to try to figure out what happened to Haleigh… and to keep up w/ the ever controversial Croslin-Cummings crew. Best, and thanks!!
How can you say Jon Benet was a stranger abduction when she was found dead in her own house and no one has ever been charged with that crime ???!!!
Yeah, those stranger abductions seem to be happening all the time. Way too many for me!
The research shows that Non Custodial abductions are really high compared to the stranger abductions. Also, we have the boyfriends, girlfriends, etc. that are culprits.
Elizabeth Smart knew her abductor. He was the handyman for the parents and knew Elizabeth.
Jon Benet, wasn’t abducted. She was murdered and left dead in the basement. They never found out who, but the family was suspected….I still think they did it. They didn’t live to far from me.
Im not too familiar with the polly klass case….
But I do know that NG was a crazy rude bitch the other night to Mark Klass and it was uncalled for!
unknown dna found on her body..
try to keep up heyyousmell
Goodnite.
JenM said,in May 28th, 2010 at 12:12 am Yeah, those stranger abductions seem to be happening all the time. Way too many for me!
The research shows that Non Custodial abductions are really high compared to the stranger abductions. Also, we have the boyfriends, girlfriends, etc. that are culprits.
Elizabeth Smart knew her abductor. He was the handyman for the parents and knew Elizabeth.
Jon Benet, wasn’t abducted. She was murdered and left dead in the basement. They never found out who, but the family was suspected….I still think they did it. They didn’t live to far from me.
Im not too familiar with the polly klass case….
But I do know that NG was a crazy rude bitch the other night to Mark Klass and it was uncalled for!
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WRONG!! the mother of e. smart hired a street person to clean her roof gutters, he was not a handyman..she was a do gooder and thats what it got her,,he came back.
Jon benet..why do you nit pick? just to prove me wrong? She was ABDUCTED from her bed thats kidnapping!
Nancy grace disrespected marc klass, a child advocate! second only to john walsh,disgraceful!
gnite jenM
No, not nit picking. Just didn’t think of them as stranger abductions cause she knew the guy from him being at her house working on it.
Im just saying that a true stranger abduction of Haliegh would be very rare. Ithink it was someone she knew…jmo.
The talk of whether people think the Cummings or Sheffield families had anything to do with harming Haleigh seem moot in light of LE focusing on Tommy and Misty. I dont think LE is going to let go of them.
Rons behavior is just plain weird but LE has him where they want him if and when they decide to charge him with harm to his daughter. Hes not going anywhere!
JenM said,in May 28th, 2010 at 12:55 am No, not nit picking. Just didn’t think of them as stranger abductions cause she knew the guy from him being at her house working on it.
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ok, so your a personal friend of your gardner, plumber, garbageman, mailman, meter reader…you KNOW them cause they werked at your house?
Your rational is flawed jenM in this particular senario..I usualy agree with you.
DustyRose good post,I dont really like the way they have done on this case either.Many times LE make mistakes,or want to solve a case so bad.Or just think who they have pinned to the wall in their minds had to do it.Shody investigating,goes on everywhere.
I know from the start after Tim Miller set up the LDT/Voice test.Its been on,about Misty.I hear NG saying Misty has failed 4 LDT,i thought it was only 3,an the first one was inconclusive,an she walked into Tims,an Then the last one LE set up for her,the last time.
Why would she do that if she was planning to lie.She knew she could have refused them/or did she? But most people damn her for Her failed test.I say she was a scared teen,who went in to tell what she knew.
I have never seen a tester stop in the middle of a test ,an tell the person being tested they are being deceptive,why that would make a person just that more nervice.An it was done on the Voice,or LDT Tim set up for Misty.Its on video.Of course she could be just lieing.But i dont think these type test should be done.Go off of old fashion police work,gather evidence,an build a case.
I dont believe in them,an would never allow my child to take one,or would i take one,ever again.I did that once.Took 2 one i failed,while under stress,an blood pressuer was high.Same questions,same test i took a week later when i got my BP down,an i passed it.
Now tell me if it had been a criminal case,i would have been in trouble if i failed.Dont trust them,no way!! no how!!Because i know for a fact i told the truth on each question asked,but it deamed me a lier the first test.To many have proven to be wrong through the yrs.
As i understand it Jeffery Domner took a polly,an passed.An we all know he was killing dead ahead.
So your reports are interesting,an give us a lot to think about.All of these families could be innocet of Haliegh being missing.Or it could be one who has her,an the one they would least expect.
Look at how Andera Lyons,an those Attorneys She was sitting in on a case with.They let a innocent man sit in prison for 26 yrs,just to get a real killer out of the death sentence(just to win).An they knew the one they defended was the actual one who commetted the murder.That poor man had served 26 yrs on,how ever many yrs he got.i know he finaly was released after 26 yrs.sHAME ON THEM FOR LETTING HIM SIT THERE ,JUST SO THEY COULD WIN ANOTHER CASE,IN GETTING THE DP off the table of a known killer.
They did not come forward with the truth of his innocence.Just let a innocent man suffer.Untill the killer died,an theN a anomous letter was dropped to the DA,about the mans innocence.Shame on Andrea,an the Attornies she was working with.All so they could win another case.
Any one know for sure how old Charles Jones is?
@Jan57 May 27th, 2010 at 11:26 pm/
Jan57 interesting theory. How would the bouncing couch comments from Jr fit in if it is to be believed that Jr said that?
Lisa tried to ask Tommy about Misty saying he was sitting on the couch with her when Tommy interupted her saying he couldnt talk about it.
Dylan said,in May 28th, 2010 at 1:20 am @Jan57 May 27th, 2010 at 11:26 pm/
Jan57 interesting theory. How would the bouncing couch comments from Jr fit in if it is to be believed that Jr said that?
Lisa tried to ask Tommy about Misty saying he was sitting on the couch with her when Tommy interupted her saying he couldnt talk about it.
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ok, I been wanting to correct this..
misty NEVER said “with her”..lisa said..
“misty said you were sitting on the couch” then tommy cut her off..
*oj* ~ i have to agree with *jenm* regarding the elizabeth smart case. that man had been to their home at least half a dozen times iirc, working both outside the home, and inside the home. he wasn’t a “friend” perhaps, but he WAS an aquaintance…after all, the kids knew him by name.
imo
Today is notthe first day that BNN has been commented about on other forums. It has been going on since the first BNN article dropped on this case and going back to Caylee’s case. Several, if not all forums, depend on BNN articles for the latest Haleigh reports. Many times people commenting here are discussed elsewhere and either commended or villified, depending on the stance of the post. WS, SM, IS, and now RN….. BNN people often talk about or discuss other people’s theories, ideas, stances etc….it’s happened several times in this thread alone.
That’s what it means to blog in a fishbowl….LOL!
toughcookie said,in May 28th, 2010 at 1:48 am *oj* ~ i have to agree with *jenm* regarding the elizabeth smart case. that man had been to their home at least half a dozen times iirc, working both outside the home, and inside the home. he wasn’t a “friend” perhaps, but he WAS an aquaintance…after all, the kids knew him by name.
imo
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a street person working at my house is a “stranger” no matter how many times he worked there..do you let “aquaintances” babysit your kids?..I bet you do.
Food For Thought….
IMO LE is waiting to indict Haleigh’s murderers until AFTER he/she/they are CONVICTED FELONS. No Casey Anthony BS with motion after motion on which trial should happen first…Felony conviction in the bag…they’ll move on to the murder case!
1 week count down to Tommy’s Continuance of Pre-Trial 06/03/2010 We will find out Tommy’s Trial date and/or any deals or new plea
Just 5 days later Misty will be in court for her continuance of Pre-Trial on 06/08/2010 1:30 pm We will find out her Trial date and any new info, deals, etc
Then exactly 1 week later 06/15/2010 (Tuesday)
Donna Brock goes to Trial! DB’s trial was scheduled approx. 2 months after her Pre-Trial hearing concluded. If Tommy & Misty follow suit, they will be going to Trial around late July, early August. I say late July since Ronald’s deadline for a plea change is July 31 2010. He has to testify againts TOmmy & MIsty by then or get no credit and be forced to go to trial or plead no lo or guilty on trafficking charges. I fully expect to see indictment(s) for Haleigh’s murder come out the first week of August 2010.
Guys,look at this video at the 2:00-2:02 mark and tell me I’m not hearing things??
are there 2 Lindseys??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP0d_5kpjic&feature=related
Nancy grace disrespected marc klass, a child advocate! second only to john walsh,disgraceful!
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AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan57 said,in May 28th, 2010 at 12:01 am CathyJoe interesting about NayNay,an Amber.
I heard it said also that Jr told LE that it was a woman who took sissy.(rumor or fact i dont know)I know when i saw him an his mom on Geroldo,i didnt believe it then.Because she was leading him.An she said he said a black man to her.But i never seen the child anwser any of it.Or say it his self.
Theres many who could of taken Haliegh as a revenge thing,against Ron,or Misty.
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I didn’t believe jr told crystal that either!
and then one day cs said a man in black was stalking her at the HBC? Pffft
I know there was a female cop at tommys an hr. before the call?
but don’t know the specifics or anything! sorry,lol
OJ….. you are so right about NG being so disrespectful towards Marc Klass, I have noticed that the last few times he has been a “guest” on her show. I understand why she has the defense attys on, so she can berate and trash as part of her side show…however, I have no idea of her intent or why he would tolerate her insults. I don’t remember her being so rude to Mr. Klass in the past. I know her show is primarily theatrics and the NG/Angel/Perfect Twins-Mother blah blah blah.. but I truly do cannot understand the treatment of Mr. Klass. Any thoughts?
Great posts people!!! Skimmed thru them.
So many theories, so many possibilities.
When do we learn the truth? If everyone is waiting on Misty to tell it, it isn’t going to happen. Ever.
Where did this story come from about Jo & Tom throwing the baby into the river?? Obvisously there has to be some validation to that theory or LE wouldn’t have wasted their time. Why can’t we put that story to bed?? What and who knows about that??
Are LE so close to knowing exactly what happened??
As far as this article goes written by Jan, it was very well done. You listen to Hank speaking to Misty in jail and of course you feel for him. We are human. But these are also the same parents who “partied” their lives away. So now they are paying the price for what they did to not only themselves, but their children’s life.
I know one thing. I believe NOTHING that comes out of Misty’s mouth. Does Tom know the truth?? Does Joe??
Whoever posted – But I do know that NG was a crazy rude bitch the other night to Mark Klass and it was uncalled for!- I watched it that night. Why does he waste his time being verbally attacked by that witch, when he is really her own source to this story and she should be kissing the ground he walks on because with out him her ratings would drop.
OK done venting. So now where are we with who did it and why?? lol
A few things..
All the people on twitter that follow this case are not trolls.
Cathy I love to read your posts and enjoy the banter between you and OJ
All of Putnam Co. isn’t a trash pile I have owned property there for over 20 years and there is a part of Welaka that is amazing with almost zero crime.. we never even locked our doors until this case. People would pull up to our dock and clean fish while my boat was wide open with keys in it.
Satsuma is a very pretty part of Florida but it has its many problems. There is very little work and most people either live off of the river or Lake George in the crab industry.
The bar where Ron’s uncle was arrested was actually in George Town (some may argue Fruitland and they could make that point) and it is a dive in the first degree.
I spend every weekend at our house in Welaka usually with my wife and this case has all but ruined the towns of Lake Cumo Satsuma and Welaka. The rumors are vile and sides have been taken and people stand strong for what they believe.
The facts are the facts and we all know that we really don’t know any facts other than Haleigh Cummings is missing. We hear that Misty was there that night then we hear she might not have been. She is a troubled young lady so who really knows?
I don’t post here often but spend all day hitting refresh to see what is going on. (Wife thinks I am nuts)
I don’t always agree with Cobra or Simon or Jan and think TJ is a saint. But I would never attack them and hate to see someone do that.
Sorry for the long post and try not to hate all of the twitter folks that type in #haleighcummingns because I am one that does it almost daily and I don’t try to fight with anyone.
Peace to y’all .. Leaving in about 4 hours to head up to Welaka.. if you know the town.. I will be at the Welaka Bait and Tackle.. stop by and say hi!
HollysGmom
You missed Misty’s Putnam County continued pretrial date which is also June 3rd.
TrotlineDesigns said,in May 28th, 2010 at 3:20 am A few things..
All the people on twitter that follow this case are not trolls.
Cathy I love to read your posts and enjoy the banter between you and OJ
All of Putnam Co. isn’t a trash pile I have owned property there for over 20 years and there is a part of Welaka that is amazing with almost zero crime.. we never even locked our doors until this case. People would pull up to our dock and clean fish while my boat was wide open with keys in it.
Satsuma is a very pretty part of Florida but it has its many problems. There is very little work and most people either live off of the river or Lake George in the crab industry.
The bar where Ron’s uncle was arrested was actually in George Town (some may argue Fruitland and they could make that point) and it is a dive in the first degree.
I spend every weekend at our house in Welaka usually with my wife and this case has all but ruined the towns of Lake Cumo Satsuma and Welaka. The rumors are vile and sides have been taken and people stand strong for what they believe.
The facts are the facts and we all know that we really don’t know any facts other than Haleigh Cummings is missing. We hear that Misty was there that night then we hear she might not have been. She is a troubled young lady so who really knows?
I don’t post here often but spend all day hitting refresh to see what is going on. (Wife thinks I am nuts)
I don’t always agree with Cobra or Simon or Jan and think TJ is a saint. But I would never attack them and hate to see someone do that.
Sorry for the long post and try not to hate all of the twitter folks that type in #haleighcummingns because I am one that does it almost daily and I don’t try to fight with anyone.
Peace to y’all .. Leaving in about 4 hours to head up to Welaka.. if you know the town.. I will be at the Welaka Bait and Tackle.. stop by and say hi!
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Does that mean i don’t have to pay to fish…….rofl!!!!!!!!!!!
If I was there you bet I’d drop in!!!!!!
No wonder you’re in such a good mood this Morning!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hugs to all guys,BBL today,Dakota has a field trip with school,so gonna drop em off and I’ll see ya when i get back!!
Be Safe!
Muah Muah!
JenM said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
Motives:
Money:(CS) possibly gang, possibly joe
Revenge: (CS, Amber, Sheffields, Gang)
Jealousy (CS, Amber, Misty, Sheffields)
Anger (CS, Amber, Sheffields)
Sexual (Tommy, Joe, ?stranger)
Drugs/Guns (Tommy, Joe, Misty)
Gang Activity (?gang….)
Non-Motives:
Accidents (Misty, Tommy, Joe, Nay-Nay and anyone)
Psychotic behavior (Misty, Tommy, Joe, Nay-Nay and anyone)
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You left a few out –
Motives:
Money (CS, possibly gang, possibly joe) – You left out TimmyC, TN, MISTY, RON, RON, RON
Jealousy (CS, Amber, Misty, Sheffields) – You left out TN
Anger (CS, Amber, Sheffields) – You left out RON, RON, RON, RON!
Sexual (Tommy, Joe, ?stranger) – You left out TimmyC, RON, RON, RON
Drugs/Guns (Tommy, Joe, Misty) – You left out TimmyC, TN, CS, RON, RON, RON
Gang Activity (?gang….) – You left out RON, RON, RON
Non-Motives:
Accidents (Misty, Tommy, Joe, Nay-Nay and anyone) – You left out TN, AS, RON, RON, RON
Psychotic behavior (Misty, Tommy, Joe, Nay-Nay and anyone) – You left out TN, AS, RON, RON, RON
TrotlineDesigns will you be at the Blue Crab Fest this weekend?
Motives- Misty wanted her own child! She was tired of taking care of others children. JMO
Tobias,I missed that Ron called Misty at G.Hollars and wanted her to come back. Once Misty got back to Satsuma she had the order of protection dropped against Tommy and then she began staying with Charles Jones and his family. Hank Sr. called Charles Jones a snitch. I think it was Charles Jones that tipped LE that Ron and Misty were trafficking. I believe that is why LE waited on the bust. They wanted to make sure they got Ronald too.JMO
I never heard that little Jr. said it was a woman that took his sissy. Actually, Jr. had already told the story about a man dressed in black took his sissy, before he told it to Crystal. It was just talked about last week on JVM. Little Jr. said that Haleigh did not wake up or make any noise.
LFJ, I believe thats very possible. Its also possible that the road rage was to get CJ off their backs. I believe he was following them, thats why he used the girlfriends car. One thing did come out of that incident was we all found out Misty and Ron where together and always had been. jmo
LFJ, Sure they did. They could have just went after Tommy, Misty , and Donna B. but they went for broke and waited for Ron and got Hope along with him. The incident report dates tell the story.lol Ron played it cool until he was sure everything looked safe. jmo
To me Tobias that just shows Rons character. He puts Misty out there while he hides behind the scenes. I still believe he was the leader; just like I believe he knows what happened to Haleigh. I don’t know the extent Misty is involved, but I believe she was following Rons instructions.JMO
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/fox-family-illinois-relieved-scott-eby-charged-rileys/story?id=10767451
Thought some would be interested in reading this.
Tobias, Ron was already calling and making threats to Charles Jones before Christmas. Charles Jones said Misty told him that the drug people have Haleigh per interview with Levi. What if Ronald was really trying to take him out? Charles Jones said himself that he had met with LE numerous times. I wonder what all he knows.
Hey Tobias, did you ever find you pass code to get on the forum? If so let me know there is something I would like to pm you.
I do too. He is a behind the scene kinda guy. He had his alibi all set up too conviently. Notice out of everyone he is the one with a solid over the top alibi. His behavior is odd to say the least but he can get away with it because other than Hank he has a good alibi.jmo
TOBIAS — BTW in Florida the mandatory minimum means no early outs, no 85% of time served. You serve every day of a mandatory minimum, so Ronald would only be credited with the time has served in jail against his sentence, so he wouldn’t be out until 14 years from now.
Tobias, you are right, but I am still not so sure his alibi is as tight as we have been told it to be.
LFJ, Yes I am logged in right now.
I saw the new theory thats posted and its pretty good. May be possible but tweeked a little without the gun. jmo
3jayhawks
I TOO POSTED ON ARTS SITE ! my comment is waiting in moderation too? humm
heres what I said…
HI Art
Did you here the tape where Lindsy told Tommy that she threw his new boots away? she didnt say new but bloggers say they were. did they ever check his van? I wasnt sure.
When Misty points out 2 people on the tape with Chelsea and she said is it someone I care about-? misty said yes. wonder who it was. Im sure you prob know by now.
and then I read on a page recently where lindsys sister said kick 2 peoples butts then lindsy said are you talking about Tom? (she didnt comment to that)
its interestin what I have read and found out there from her family- they speculate crystals family innocent- rons guilty and misty doesnt know anything really. and tommy is a dark person. (Rons distant family takes up for misty and thinks ron is guilty). funny huh
Jan
I wanted to say thank you for the artical, it helps people to see a clearer track of this. some people cannot see that its not really just feeling sorry for Hank and Lisa- its just the reality they are in is so horrible. its aweful for anyone to blame them for Haleigh.
Did any one read the article to the link i posted above? If not i do recommend you take the time to read it! Makes one think?
Can anyone tell me how I can e-mail the
gainsville sun ? I would really like to get
with Lise Fisher about and interview she
did in 2009 about Haleigh.
TIA
I read the article. I am glad for the family and I am glad that the father was exonerated. I just did not understand why he would confess if he did not do it, especially since he did not match the DNA.
Cricket on the site they may have a contact tab.
Tobias, I sent the pm.
Tanya said,in May 28th, 2010 at 10:18 am http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/fox-family-illinois-relieved-scott-eby-charged-rileys/story?id=10767451
Thought some would be interested in reading this.
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Wow – that poor father.and his son – look how much pressure they put on them. the system is so mest up. I used to work for the state of Tx so I know. its horrible. they dont have enough- and correct help to make things the way the should be.
thanks for sharin that
My ex carried a gun he only did it for show
he never used but he mouthed off just like
Ron,all they want is to be recognized as a
Bad A$$.
I did go to the site reg. and still didn’t
get a contact. It did say conact us but nothing came up.
Cricket said,in May 28th, 2010 at 11:07 am Can anyone tell me how I can e-mail the
gainsville sun ? I would really like to get
with Lise Fisher about and interview she
did in 2009 about Haleigh.
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she wrote the story
Swirko, Cindy – Reporter – Government Affairs
swirkoc@gvillesun.com Phone: 352-374-5024
cricket heres Lise info
she knows cindy too
Fisher, Lise – Reporter
fisherl@gvillesun.com Phone: 352-374-5092
Hollys G- Thank you so much for the lining out all the dates, I also agree that they are going to tie up the drug charges and then charge the HaLeigh case
I have a hard time with the scenario like everyone on who did this and how it happened.
Ron- I know loved his daughter – I cannot imagine all the things he said making it all up like keep your enemies close – hating tommy- then selling drugs with him- cops telling him what to say to misty to try to break her.
All along I have really thought Tommy is defantly involved- he is not afraid of Joe
why is misty saying joe and tommy too and then not? Its real hard for me to believe Joe did anything-
Like mistys Lawyer said sounds like Misty implicating Joe may be she is really talking about tommy. (that made lots of since to me)
I DO think Misty knows something for the fact she told lindsy its gonna hurt two people and one she cares about- tells me timmy and tommy. to me IMO
what about lindsy said to tom i threw your boots away.
now lindsy wants a divorce. I really think Mainly its tommy- and Misty knows it-
oops I meant she told chelsea its gonna hurt two people-
LFJ,
I wanna no why we haven’t heard the 911
call from TC house that night, it was made around
2:13am . LT. Johnny Greanwood stated they
would like no what happened leading up to
Haleigh’s disspearence. The call was made from
TC house and it was a call 2:13 am . Remember
the 911 A lady officer came on and said she was there on Tyler. It wasn’t disturbence call about a dog , it was a Haleigh missing call.
Then other call from Ron’s house when he got
home.
chakra7 said,in May 28th, 2010 at 11:34 am Hollys G- Thank you so much for the lining out all the dates, I also agree that they are going to tie up the drug charges and then charge the HaLeigh case
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I agree too right along with you on that!
I just wish somebody could come up or uncover something to put an end to this case! Tt is just overwhelming! Ther are so many twists and turns can’t belive anyone. Has LE ever been able to put together a time line for this mess?
Hey Cricket
did you get the info above on Lise you needed?
I posted the links for you. didnt know if u saw.
Nanc said,in May 27th, 2010 at 1:21 pm no, can’t be. You’re pretty on the inside
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Totally agree!!!
Such a small and simple sentence, yet it says so much about such a beautiful person!!!!
Last week CathyJo commented on something I said about being “ignored”. (I was having one of my poor me moments, gag!!) Well, she saw right through my comments and knew I really was kinda sad. I was like, uhhh, is there a little CathyJo in my computer??!!
Geez CathyJo, if you ever leave, I think we will all go through “CathyJo” withdrawals!!!
Cricket , I would love to hear that 911 call. Perhaps we will when this is all said and done. That call was 1 hour and 14 min before Misty and Ron called 911. I remember when Cathartic put a link up to the article that stated Greenwood stated that they had been working Haleighs case since 2:13am on the 10th of Feb 2009.
Kristie,
Thank for the address , I just couldn’t find
it , I’m new to this puter stuff, Slow
Learner.
Kristie
Great points, I agree about Joe , I think its hard to believe any of them are afraid of him
I beleive Lindsy knows more than she has let on in the past
Tommy- I had a hard time thinking he would just straight out kill HaLeigh, CathyJo and I were talking about it one night and she had a great point, If tommy went to the trailer that night to steal (very plausible) and HaLeigh saw his face, and he freaks out and stikes HaLeigh, very possible in my oppinion
LFJ,
Why is law enforcement not telling about
that call ? whats in it ? I think the bloggers
out could have figured this case out if
were given a chance.
And what up with this Steven Brown he No’s
,how,when and where what the deal with this
he said he solved it .Just another attempt to get us off thier back.
Chakra,
If the 911 call was made from TC home
Lindsy would have to something.
Ronfan- I wanted to commend you on your post yesterday about the courts and tough love , it was very heartfelt and thought provoking, I agree I also see now how Hank is trying to get the truth out, the best he can , He is in a very tough spot, with 2 of his kids in jail, him and his wife on probation, and virtually no work in FL
Hi Everybody!
Chakra7, Lindsy has to know more! The cops covered their presence at Tommy’s by filing (like 9 days later) a barking dog incident report to explain why they were there at 2:13 am February 10. The complaintant listed is Anna Potter; wonder what she has to say about it all!
Cricket, I sent an email to Steven K Brown and his response was something along the lines of, “Well, yes, with my assistance, the PCSO and I solved it. There were two eye-witnesses but probably not enough corroborating evidence to obtain a conviction. And if you aren’t going to get a conviction, why bother with an arrest?” (I will post the original when I can get to it.) Sounds like a plan cooked up by Marty Sheffield, the PCSO, Steven K Brown and James Wertner to me!!
Cricket-
very good point, its hard to believe Lindsy slept through that
Off topic: I watched NG last and saw where the mother that called 911 and told the dispatch that she just murdered her children, but one was not dead yet and is pleading for help. The mother said she could not take it that is why she called 911 and had the odacity to call her daughter baby after she stabbed her. This woman plead out to a capital one murder charge which will mean that she spends life without parole in prison to spare her life. The one daughter survived, but her sister died at the hands of their MOTHER!!! She was one disturbed woman!! I am glad I was not the dispatcher that received that call.
I wish this had at least been the same punishment for Melissa Huckabee in the Sandra Cantu case giving her 25 to life with even a slight chance to make parole in which I do not think she will get, but I would not want the chance that it could happen. I do believe these both to be DP cases.
Cate –
very true, great point
LFJ- that was a heartbreaking case wasn’t it , I could barely stand to hear about it, there are things in this life that I try to understand, but that is not one of them, How a mother could kill her own child is beyond comprehension
Cate (aka Kate) said,
in May 28th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Hi Everybody!
Chakra7, Lindsy has to know more! The cops covered their presence at Tommy’s by filing (like 9 days later) a barking dog incident report to explain why they were there at 2:13 am February 10. The complaintant listed is Anna Potter; wonder what she has to say about it all!
Cricket, I sent an email to Steven K Brown and his response was something along the lines of, “Well, yes, with my assistance, the PCSO and I solved it. There were two eye-witnesses but probably not enough corroborating evidence to obtain a conviction. And if you aren’t going to get a conviction, why bother with an arrest?” (I will post the original when I can get to it.) Sounds like a plan cooked up by Marty Sheffield, the PCSO, Steven K Brown and James Wertner to me!!
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Interesting what Brown said, yet these 2 eyewitness have kept quiet for 15 months..sorry, don’t that Mr. Brown.
And as far as the dog barking complaint, it was not the 10th they received the complaint, it was days earlier but didn’t charge Tommy with it till the morning of the 10th at 11 AM.I read the police report.
I will post it again if anyone wants to read it.
should be sorry I don’t buy that Mr. Brown.
I have the feeling simon and jan will take sunday off, being a holiday weekend and all.
Maybe they’ll go boating, great weather for it.
or a nice barbecue with TJ and doctor crime.
Chakra7, yes it was very heart- breaking. It just made me pure sick to my stomach. I will never understand it!!!
Cate,
If there are 2 wittiness it would have to be
one of them that already in custody. If it
where someone that lived around there they
would’ve already came out with that’s something
most people couldn’t keep quite about.
Thanks Vaquera , for the clarification
So does that mean they charged him, the morning they were investigating HaLeigh?
@CathyJo
Does that mean i don’t have to pay to fish…….rofl!!!!!!!!!!!
If I was there you bet I’d drop in!!!!!!
No wonder you’re in such a good mood this Morning!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nah, you can fish off of our dock any time you like but my wife loves to coax the gators so I wish ya’ luck!
Look me up on Flickr dot com under this name and you will see that we have a bit of a gator issue 🙂
Misty said I feel its the other side of the family and then her days were numbered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VGe497ldh0&feature=related
chakra7 said,
in May 28th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
So does that mean they charged him, the morning they were investigating HaLeigh?
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Yes, weird huh? I will post it again..
Vaquera- that is , thanks I missed that before
Here’s the police report for the barking dog.
http://imm.io/A0r
Has anyone noticed how HCsr saying to her the truth needs to come out it’s like he’s trying
to get to the truth. But also makes statements
like he No’s his kids wouldn’t do anything to that little girl. then when Misty starts to say something he interrupts her afraid she might say something he doesn’t want
here.
Tobias, I had to run out and Iwill get back with you later. Everyone have a nice afternoon.Gods speed
Cricket- I have seen that also, my take on it is that he is conflicted as much as he wants the truth to come out and it be over then he thinks if my kids are involved, the truth would be bad to come out, I think he is truly in between a rock and a hard place and goes back in forth on what to do
Morning peeps. I wish today would be the day little Haliegh was found((Alive)) but it doesnt seem that will be the case.
Such a pretty little girl.If it is that someone murdered this child,out of cruelness,then they deserve the strongest penilty for doing so.
No matter of its family,the exstepmom,or anyone.I just cant believ people /or a person could do such things that are happening to little ones today.
But my family lived through a baby being murdered.i know all to well about rumors,an lies being spread,when no one knows exactly what happened.
The sad thing is the child just dropped off the map.Not a trace.That usualy only happens when a pedifile abduction happens.But we have them pointing to Joe,an several in jail being looked at for this crime.
We had Misty pointing to the river when she took The LDT with Tim Miller.An we have so its said Tommy pointing to the same spot.An we saw Misty at the river dock,An know Tommy was taken there before Misty was.
Naturaly they would look at the last person to see,or be with Haliegh.
I know she said she was sleep,an that she remembers Jr crawling over her getting up,then she said when she woke he was in the bed beside her.That she got up to go to the bathroom,an seen the light on,then the back door open.Then returning to the room,she found the baby girl gone.
Then we have the letter that tell that Tommy,an Joe came by.Joe wanting the gun,an Joe took Haliegh instead when the gun wasnt found by him.
She said in the letter Joe had raped her before.
We have Misty from the start stating that both men had molested her when younger.
So we have Misty Joe,an Tommy involved,as being said.
Then many thing The family of Crystal took Haliegh,because of the custody battle,or the money an CS about to go to jail for 12,000 back support.
We have many thinking Ron,may have harmed his child An Misty with her undieing love for him is covering.
We have wood searches,a pond drained/searched.An now the River search.
Many think Haliegh od,an the hid the body.
An so many more theorys.
Because of all 3 families having drug involvment,an crimes commited.An no one comming forward with imfo.Except one fellow that stated to the LE that there was a party,Haliegh od an they bagged her an throwed her in a pond.In reference to the letter NayNay wrote.But it was said the LE had to go to that mans house because after that came out he tried to commit suicide.Said to have a mental condition.
Many have been arrested for drugs.
We have Amber,Misty in a cat fight Ambers mom,Chalsea,an NayNay involved somehow.
So with just this little bit,an probably so much called into LE,its a baffling case at best.An to date we have no Haliegh,an No arrest.
So will this case ever be solved? will an arrest/arrests ever be made?Are they looking at the right ones? Or Has someone got away with a perfect crime. Shame Haliegh isnt accounted for todate.May God reveal the truth,an where Haliegh is.
If Misty left messages on Amber’s My Space page, she can apparently read and write.
VQ,
He answered you back thats more than I thought he would do.
I just don’t feel this is legit, it was just
gut feeling I got when he came out with his
Bombshell new’s.
Plus he’s Crystal’s PI, has anyone hear ever
new about this ?
Barbra when talkingto Cobra in a uncover thing when he was taping what she said,an Jarome at the shady motel.Barbra told Cobra that Charles was a dealer,a big dealer.An if im not mistaken he had ties to someone Ron had ripped off.
okie222 said,in May 28th, 2010 at 11:44 am I just wish somebody could come up or uncover something to put an end to this case! Tt is just overwhelming! Ther are so many twists and turns can’t belive anyone. Has LE ever been able to put together a time line for this mess?
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i think the case runs deeper and either the public will be fooled by who did it as a cover or?
Chakra,
I believe he thinks Misty had something to
do with Haleigh missing, but doesn’t believe
Tommy could have had anything to do with
Because he has kids.
I really feel sorry for Misty she’s a kid herself. I, believe Misty has always been
blamed for things she had nothing to do with.
I know exactly what that feels like. It’s
heart breaking experience.
What was Crystals PI doing working with Tommys Attorny anyway?That doesnt sound right to me.Like a conflict of intrest or something.Her we have an Attornt ,an his client.who hese suppose to be repersenting.An then the missing childs Mother PI.
Then a video of Tommys Attorny came out,an he said Tommy,an he broke the case.No one else.They after they already knew ,then called the PI in on it. So whicH was it Tommy,an his Attorny???? The PI??? or G Hollers??? sEEMS IF THE CASE HAD BEEN BROKEN THERE WOULD ALREADY BE AN ARREST
Exactly Jan. I believe that search turned up nothing and they told the families Haleigh was deceased on the word of those 2 sitting in jail. It’s no wonder the families still believe Haleigh is alive. Hell, they could have sold her for all we know or given her to someone.
or got snatched and is out of the country by now
I though a call went from Misty,to Tommys house before She an Ron called 911.Could it be that she told Lindsy that Haliegh was missing,an some one there called it in,or asked a officer to come out,before Ron,an Misty did.Making that the reason le was at Tommys house at 2:13.
Or could that cop like dope to,an almost got caught when she/he was at Tommys trying to get some pot,or pills lol its a thought didnt say its was true
It’s possible that a neighbor of Tommy’s (Anna Potter?) called LE about Tommy’s barking dog, and they went over there to talk to him about keeping the dog quiet. Just a thought.
great article jan…
Jan57, you are correct that Barbara said Charlie Jones was a big time drug dealer , but it was Donnie Spells that had ties to the dealers Ron allegedly ripped off for 26,000. Donnie Spells is Nay nays babys dad and he was also seeing Amber Brooks after Haleigh disappeared.
Hey bloggers looks like no news and no new opinions today. As i went to bed last night
by money was on a guilty Ron. I often think
stranger abduction but then I doubt that. Someone had to know the dysfuntional family that would be involved. I don’t think that
anyone got up that morning and said I am going
to destroy that 5 year today. It was an accident and someone is covering. I do believe
that Misty is involved with the cover up though. Now was it her lover or her brother.
She’s not covering for Tommy she has aready tried to implicate Tommy.
I am so sorry guys but Art Harris makes me sick.He is using his site to basically get Hank C. straight.If he’d stop lying 4 a story n using dirty tactics for a so called story, or to get on Nancy Grace maybe he wouldn’t have to defend his garbage..IMO..That makes me so angry bcuz it’s all at the expense of Haleigh,and Art doesn’t care who gets caught up in his web,as long as he can have2-3 min. on tv….WORD TO THE WISE MR.ART HARRIS U’V HAD UR DAY IN THE SPOT LIGHT,WHEN U HAVE TO RESORT TO DIRTY TACTICS IT’S TIME TO CALL IT A CAREER!!!!! IM ONLY GIVIN MY HONEST OPINION
But you have to look at it.Tommy knew all along Ron had guns,drugs.An in 4/6 months Misty had been with him,he never stole from them.Or harmed the children
Then Joe comes to town stays at Tommys a while,an last staying at Chelseas,Timmys.So while at Tommys a pistol comes up missing found in culvert(said to be stole by Joe).Now its also claimed Joe had his eyes set on Rons assult R. he was also angry with Ron for insulting him.He comes to town Halieghs now missing.An hes home,an has a Attorny,which he got early on.
Of course Tommys been known to steal guns before.From neighbors.Or at least one,that Hanksr took back to the old man.An then Misty busted him out for the last Theifts he did,to LE the one with the towels an soap,gun.
We have Joe staying at Chelsea,Timmys.An the van that Lindsy loaned them was moved,scratched,an Twigs,an a broken head light as if t had been in the woods.Joe supposedly not in bed till the next morning,fully cloth as if he had slept in his out all night cloths..Timmy,layed up from the wrech with his dad,an the uninsured driver.
Lindsey throws away Tommy,an Timmys old boots.
Coop, you are correct. Misty implicated Tommy last August in the voice stress test. Misty pointed to Tommy saying look how has been acting( para) and if Tommy is involved so is Joe. It is my opinion, why point fingers at someone who can point them back to you?
Why are there never any tapes from Ron???
Cricket-
I believe you could be right about Hanks oppinion, on the tapes he does sound like that, and I agree with you 100% about Misty, I don’t think she ever had a chance at a good life
Looking for Justice i couldnt remember if it was Charles.But Donnie Spells,an Amber.Wow pass it around.Now we know Amber hates Misty.the two had a few run ins.
Nay Nay mingles with both sides.But she was angry about Donnie keeping her child from her.
Those young people are in a bad way down there/or up there lol which ever it is.Im in Myrtle Beach.Between the drug use,drug dealers/pimps prostituting fighting over men,an over their children.What a mess!!!
It is very possible that it was not JO that stole Ron’s gun. It may have been Tommy who then blamed it on JO. It may not have been JO that took the van that night, if it was taken at all, it could have very well been Timmy. Chelsea has changed her story on that a few times already.
There are 2 people that have placed themselves in that MH that night, Misty and Tommy.
Jerome Williams was a dealer at the time too. He is now in prison. He was the one who tried to get info for Cobra and LE hoping to get a deal if he found anything out. Both Amber and Naynay stayed with him too. He also chased Amber with a machete once, wished I could find the article now, I think it was a newspaper article. She called police.jmo
Confused,
I’m right there with you why not Ron’s phone calls
and visits and why not any tapes of TC
in the drug dust.They’ve showed all of them
in drug bust tapes but not Tommy and all we
saw of Hope getting out to pick the
drugs with Misty which I, guess it was someone she new. Donna B on one.
Why not Tommy ? whats the deal with that ?
CathyJo, Guys,look at this video at the 2:00-2:02 mark and tell me I’m not hearing things??
are there 2 Lindseys??
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Wow, seems like she says Lindsey, eh? She could of said something else though. Don’t know. Better to listen to the straight through interview. When people chop them up like that, it distorts them. Also, when the media uses “clips”, it distorts due to them taking stuff out of ocntext. Irritating indeed.
I do think its strange that 2 of Rons girlfriends have ties to a couple of drug dealers, Jerome Williams and Donnie Spells.
And on the Cobra tapes they said she frequently was down there, Barbra said she was up to her eyeballs in involvement. Also sounds like Naynay was getting beat up alot by Donnie from what Barbra said.jmo
Remember earlier when someone referred to heaing Misty say: “Ron didn’t have nothing to do with Haleigh” they said it meant he didn’t love her.
Actually, it was in response to the question of:
Do you think Ron had something to do with Haliegh’s disappearance? No, “Ron didn’t have nothing to do with Haleigh”.
I think we see and hear a lot of this kind of stuff and sometimes that is why it is so distored.
WhyLie- or it could have been Chelsea that drove the van to the trailer , if Timmy was knocked out on pain meds after the accident
Yes Tobias, I remember Cobra talking about Amber and the machete on the BNN talk show. Do you remember who the Ace guy was Barbara mentioned?
I dont think Misty had a chance either.I think she was molested,an used all her young yrs,beat on. WHO EVER GAVE HER HER FIRST PILL NEEDS TO BE SHOT!!.She has no record that we know about.Just a child wanting to be loved,an seeking it in all the wrong places.The seem to use her sexualy,for drugs,for child care.
I wouldnt doupt even Nay Nay hooked Misty up with WBG because Nay Nay knew WBG sold,or could,or would by them free drugs,Misty had to give out the favors for it.
She had no way of making any money,no job,no one now would hire her to babysit after Haliegh went missing.So she turned to the only life she knew,make some oney off a few pills.Who knows she may had never been in that care dealing that month,if UC hadnt played her,an offered up the dope for sale. All that for 20/30 an a few pills,now shes going away for yrs,an people want it that way,not even knowing if the child had one thing to do with Halieghs dissapearence.Other than babysitting that night.
LFJ,
I think Misty might be covering for Tommy
She has implicaeted him and now doesn’t no
if Joe had anything to with it.
For right now I think maybe it was Tommy
and the reason she come hasn’t out with it is her
family, she thinks all of them would throw her out like a dirty dish rag.
But I still am gonna believe Haleigh is alive.
Reminds me of NG saying “Misty’s own dad knows she is lying” because she took his words, “Misty just tell them what you know” and twisted it to mean what she wanted it to mean.
I “personally” know that people block things out in their memory that are stressful or traumatic. I think Misty either witnessed or was part of a traumatic experience. This is why she doesn’t remember. Trying to remember, the person thinks of all sorts of scenarios to determine if that is what could of happened. They remember bits and pieces of the event. Some seems like a dream and some is not recalled at all. It is the mind protecting itself, a distinct defense mechanism.
Hopefully with Time and medications, Misty will have “more moments of clarity”. Then again, she may not.
I remember Hanksr brought up a couple (names i have to go search) that he though,or said rumor had it they snitched them out,about drugs.Misty seemed kind of shocked,its on video somewhere in all the releases.
Cricket I hope and pray you are right and Haleigh is alive.
I earlly would love to be able ot do that, but in my heart I believe LE right now.
oops!! really
Jan57,
Amen! and Amen!
The traumatic event for Misty could of been discovering that Haleigh was gone! Her heart sank, she panicked, she searched. Ron came home and blamed her for letting his child get stole. I think she totally shut down, mentally. (this could be where someone abducted Haleigh and Misty was sleeping).
However, the traumatic event could of been seeing Haleigh taken or harmed, could of been that Misty was threatened with her life, could of been that she was raped too, then slipped a roofy and doesn’t recall any of it. Now her guilt feelings are so overwhelming, she can’t function.
I think Misty is right, LE will need to look elsewhere, because she has told them everything she knows!
Well everyone it is time for me to go for the night. I have to go start dinner. Have a good-night. Gods Speed.
CathyJo, I missed you today. I hope to catch up with you tomorrow.
Jan at 3:06
STANDING OVATION!!!! , I agree completly
Why did Lindsy throw away Tim and Tommy’s
Steel toed boots aren’t those expensive.
All the family’s involved in this do strange
things not to no anything.
I just wonder if Misty gets out of
going to prison,I think CathyJo should
adopt her, I no she could give Misty the love
she’s looking for.
CathyJo would you adopt her Please ?
I’m just kidding around but in all honesty
I do think CathyJo could give Misty a world
of good and love.
Im telling you i have seen many times cold blooded killers,even serial killer get deals by openly admitting killing. Brutal crimes,an they should be the ones facing the DP but very few face it.
Then some have been charged only because one investigator decided that person fit the pattern of a killer,later they were exonarated because of DNA,NO APPOLIGYS GIVEN TO THEM,from the state when it was proven later they were innocent..
I know that we went through the horror of a 2 yr old being beaten to death in my family .My sisters grand baby.I kept him,an his sibblings every month to give the parents a break.He held my heart strings.
Anyway they were blaming my niece,even looking at all of us.Rumors,lies,Media hounds.It was awful.AFTER 2 YRS OF DISPUTING THIS.An telling them who we all though did this.Our PI found evidence,an a whitness,that proved,my niece,or none of us had anything to do with it.But hey,all said,an done to us couldnt be taken back.It was already in the streets,on the airways,in the minds of town folk.
The culprit is in Prison now,an that person was no kin to us,had only been in town 3 months..But we have suffered much over it,the lose of someone we cherished,the accusations.The lies told.Its been 10,or 11 yrs,an still if i go to that small town people bring it up.I have to correct,an defend my family.
LE was wrong,did they ever once say were sorry while we were in such heavy grief over the baby,an shock,of his death,an at being accused.Never even after we solved the case.They should have been able to.It was right under their noses,but they had their eye on the only target they wanted to believe did it,an wasnt willing to look else where.
I dont trust some of them.An God forbid if a murder case happens to be tried during a election yr,for county counsel Gov.or Sherriff.They then really want to make a statment that they solve crimes.
We all know we need LE .To solve crimes,put the criminals away.They are trained.But they are men,an wemon like us.an make mistakes.Some just going off their feelings when evedence leads else where.Or they have no eidence.
If we really knew how many cases had been blundered through the yrs,an yes i believe some in prison are innocent,an have taken the fall for others.Its been proven,an people have been released through the yrs.Not everyone,but theres some there that shouldnt be.
Like the man who served 26 yrs,an Andrea Lyons,an other Attornys knew he was innocent,because they were now Attornies for the real killer.Did they even say hay were sorry we waited so long to tell he truth,you just lost 26 yrs of precious life.Because they looked the other way,so they could win another case.Disgusting!!!
In saying all of this.I just pray they get the right person/persons for the crime of Haliegh Cummings disapearence,or murder.I pray for Haliegh,her brother,an all 3 families involved,even those in jail.Haliegh found alive would be great.But if not at least closure needs to come.Remember the child/a boy was on milk carton missing.His parent talked a while back.30 yrs later,that little boy has been missing with out a trace.How awful for a parent to not know!!!
LFJ,
I just can’t agree with you about LE
I’ve seen not heard about how Shady
cops can be in not just one county but
a few I was married to a cop once .
Some them put on that uniform and think
thier God almighty.
I’m not saying all of LE enforcement is
dirty. I no there allot that would give thier
life on the job, but unfortunately there still
allot of corrupted one’s.
I have never seen so many people contradict themelves from one post to another. None of you know what happened or what the truth is, but you all swear by it like its the Gospel. You slam each other and are just plain rude to each other. A few posts back, all of you were down on the croslin parents, now you act like they are family or close friends to you and oh, how sorry you feel for them! you all change feelings and words as bad as Misty.
Cricket your right.Theres good,an bad.An ive know some bad,as well as some i would trust with my life.But when you have a town were even cop is placed on desk duty because of a coke accusation who knows about Putnam co.An its been said by some there ,that curruption is in that county office.
So who knows.I believe Hardy is trying hard to slove Halieghs case.He has his hands full,with his son also being involved in the drug trade how embarressing for him.An a town full of teen ,an adult drug people.
Not saying everyone there lives this life.But it sounds like who ever was in office before him turned a blind eye to it all.Or it coulnt have grew to the magnitued it was when Haliegh went missing,an still even after she did.
i find this very interesting – thought provoking at least – if haleigh’s case was deemed a “homocide investigation” (and we know it was), why then, is she STILL listed on the amber alert as an “active amber alert” ?
surely, this is no oversight…LE is usually quick to act with something as serious as that, pulling it as soon as possible if need be.
wonder if this gives any creedance to all the theories that she still may be alive somewhere ?
something to think about, anyway…
Let’s let them all face punishment for what they are guilty of, nothing more and nothing less.
I would like to know what exactly Ron was doing on that weekend Misty took off on her drug fling. Its never been brought up why?
Hank did mention that Ron came over and wanted him to go help find her but Hank told him she would be back and to just wait. He said it on one of the recent tapes to Misty. I wonder if Ron went on his own? JMO
Texan,
Its all opinion based on what we think are facts along with our imagination.
What’s the biggie if we do it that way?
We aren’t in charge of the case, merely commenters on a blog.
U R RITE JABA…..
Right, jaba.
tobias said,
in May 28th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
I would like to know what exactly Ron was doing on that weekend Misty took off on her drug fling.
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Probably spent the weekend texting back and forth with Crystal
WhyLie said,
in May 28th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
tobias said,
in May 28th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
I would like to know what exactly Ron was doing on that weekend Misty took off on her drug fling.
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Probably spent the weekend texting back and forth with Crystal
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That and if I’m not mistaken he was working for his Aunt Katrina doing tree work.
Shockwave,
I was just joking about the blonde thing. I too laugh at blonde jokes and as a kid I had to learn to laugh at skinny jokes too. Still blonde, no longer skinny!!!
Glad to see I am not the only one who thinks Hank, Sr. has been kicked around enough.
vaquera, that’s right, I remember it being said Ron was working for his aunt that weekend.
want to know what cops are like when they think no one is watching? look at the rodney king tapes..thats them in all their glory.
I had them plant evidence on me and lie under oath..Sheriff laurel and hardy set up misty to arrest her on bogus trumpted up charges when he should have been cleaning his own house.
Hank and lisa have bigger fish to fry at this point.
VQ,
I read some where that Ron had worked for
tree trimming business, supposedly that was
where he was the night Haleigh went missing
not at work . It said that he went to them
to get the money he had made for the job.
They also stated that Ron said it wasn’t
enough he was gonna go kill a drug dealer
they also said he did have gun with him
I guess there always gonna be rumors.
that the reason it makes hard. And we try to sift thru the lies ,rumors and sometimes even the truth.
out the lies.
More of the story…:)
Hi everybody, just checking in for a minute to see if there’s any new information.
The ones in jail obviously did something wrong, but we all know why it went down like it did. I just don’t think it’s right to set someone up like that. Yes, they need information, but I’m not so sure that was the way to do it. I go back & forth in what I think, and I will admit that. It’s just hard to believe that these 3 could keep something like this to themselves for 15 months. It could be that they really don’t know anything. If one of them thought there was the slightest chance of getting out of there, I can’t believe they wouldn’t have already told what they knew. Hard to say.
Timmy is still not out of my radar. You hear absolutely nothing from him. He was the one sending money. I doubt he makes that much and he has a family to support. Why is he so quiet? Would Misty cover for her big brother? Just thinking out loud I guess.
Take care all
For once I am around when the site starts to go crazy with fun and no one is around. Hope all is well out in BNN world
I’d like to know who “they” is. You keep hearing they said this or “sources say”. That’s how this all got blown out of proportion in the first place. If everyone would have just stuck to the facts, this wouldn’t be as big a mess as it is. Art Harris is the biggest source of bull out there. I’m sure some of his facts are true, but he tries to twist things to suit his needs, then NG just takes it and runs with it to suit her needs. Haleigh is the one they need to focus on. She needs to be found one way or the other. If we feel like this, can you imagine what her family is going through?
One thing I can say, Simon & Jan provide us with facts. If it’s not fact, they will say so. They let us make up our own minds. They don’t seem to be on one side or the other. Just giving us information. AND they sure aren’t lining their pockets.
TrotlineDesigns: Just want to say I checked out your pics on Flicker. They are amazing. I’m more into the flowers, but how in the world did you get the one with the gator & the snake? It was freaky, but amazing as well. It looks like you & your wife really enjoy your lives. Refreshing to see 🙂
I agree…great pics!
misty admits on tape she is guilty of dealing, plain and simple. We’ve heard no offer of an entrapment defense. You know misty and ron and tommy and hope had the video to look at. So far, no denial by their attorneys that I’ve heard.
If one sneaks pot into a prison facility and tells me they’ve been framed, I wonder how the story of the framing actually goes, or is it becasue they were holding whatever evidence was found. And, the same one who is in the ‘system’ now with court ordered anything, makes me pause and wonder about the real truth.
Oh well, we may never know.
They would probably be opening up a new can of worms with the entrapment thing. I don’t know how that works. I guess their attorneys think it’s best not to try it. Since they were caught on video, everyone knows they are guilty. I can understand why LE did what they did, but I have to wonder what would have happened if they would have just let them go on their merry way and kept a close watch on them. They were obviously getting pretty comfortable if they were dealing drugs with everything else going on in their lives. What would have happened if they thought no one was keeping tabs on them? Just a “what if” type of thing I guess. Sad thing is, if they didn’t have anything to do with it, and I’m not saying they didn’t, but all this time would have passed for the guilty party to have done pretty much anything they wanted with no one watching them.
Cricket said,in May 28th, 2010 at 5:28 pm VQ,
I read some where that Ron had worked for
tree trimming business, supposedly that was
where he was the night Haleigh went missing
not at work . It said that he went to them
to get the money he had made for the job.
They also stated that Ron said it wasn’t
enough he was gonna go kill a drug dealer
they also said he did have gun with him
I guess there always gonna be rumors.
that the reason it makes hard. And we try to sift thru the lies ,rumors and sometimes even the truth.
out the lies.
**************************************
Ron’s aunt Lisa owns the tree company he worked for!hmmmmmmmmmm
Heya guys,gotta catch up……..Thank you Looking………I always miss you guys too belive me!!!!!!!!!!!
Guys,did yall check out that video i posted earlyy this morning??
are there 2 Lindseys????? anywhere involved??
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/35074132/Teresa-and-Mark-Knight-701-Porte
I don’t know for certain,but i HEARD there was a fight involving cutting tools at the tree company and i assume it involved ron!Dunno when though!
bbl,nobody here again,sob sob
New article up. Faster refreshes for now. 🙂
@stormgardner said,
in May 28th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
TrotlineDesigns: Just want to say I checked out your pics on Flicker.
Thanks! The snake pic I got while hunting them. Pythons are a problem down here. Wife and I do try to have the best life we can have. Being happy is quite amazing for a marriage. 🙂
Most of my photos are sunsets and flowers but some of the gators are kind of cool to take pics of.
Thanks again.
OMG, you actually hunt snakes? Oh no, not me, but I do enjoy the pics. I love the flower pictures the way you captured the rain drops on them. You are quite good with a camera.
Yes, I agree it is amazing being happy in a marriage. You can tell you are both happy. Gives me a little hope. Lol
Keep taking those pictures.
Good evening to all my BNN buds. Been missing you terribly. Loved reading the recent article by Jan, hugs Darling and heard the show this past Sunday.
I agree with most posts. Like most, Art and the others, NG for one, are harming Haleighs name, case, investigation and Family. Makes my stomach turn with disgust and disbelief. How can grown adults make such awful rumors and make money doing it by harming the reputations of many victims involved? Do they have hearts?
We don’t know who is guilty yet, we’re all theorizing, which is cool, no problem. Its even okay for journalists and non wannabe journalists to theorize and have opinions. But we have no right to destroy the character and name of non charged individuals. Innocent until proven guilty. Or in my eyes, suspected of guilt as facts come out, and charges ensue. Then it’s up to the defendant and counsel to show me their innocent. LOL
Good to be here and be amongst friends, hugs, see ya hopefully on BTR with Simon and Jan Sunday. Make it a two hour show Ms. Jan, hehehe
looking for Justice said,in May 27th, 2010 at 10:48 am Kristie, wow good find! Ron is too smart though I believe to let out any incriminating info. Who knows though, may be he will slip up with a tidbit. That would be great!
you hav to look at this
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/35074132/Teresa-and-Mark-Knight-701-Porte
i just read jan57. in regrds to the drug charges only, i agree with jan57, the sentence and crime do not fit. what does manslaugter gets in florida. they must be building alot of jails in fl. i am not for drugs,but put the punishment equal to the crime.
Taxan you can follow my comments way back.I have been talking to Hank,an Lisa a long time by way of phone,how ever not in the last few weeks for some reason neither have called,or i havent called sence over a week when i couldnt reach them.An i have always felt bad for them.Because they werent the Halieghs parentS,an had no control over what happened that night,even he had no control over what his children did,that night..Hank had been in the hospital from a wreck,with a badly broke up leg pins placed in his leg,an his back hurt.He has admitted he wasnt the greatest parent,an really doest know what happen.An prays his children who he does love,didnt have anything to do with this.
Un like the Anthonys,the Croslin parents as long as they had money,or not on probation where they could visit their children they did.Unlike the Anthonys who stopped visiting the daughter they uphold,an claim to love so much.An claim innocent even after smelling that trunk.
I do believe the Croslins love there children even though they have made some bad mistakes,he refused any money i offered to send them.So he,or Lisa wasnt trying to money grub.An i did warn him about Art,an his claim of both of Hanks daughter- in -laws giving him exclusivis.Because i knew they were in the dark about it,an didnt have a puter in that bording house.
May not even know how to use it.Hank called Chelsea,she claimed she never gave Art a exclusive interview.An told Hank,she had filed papers with LE for Art to stop calling her..I did that because its wrong for those girls,if they did to be feeding a man imfo,on family matters for it to be spread to NG FOR HER TO EXPLOITE.If they had imfo it should have been told to LE ONLY!!
Art or NG could care less about this family,Its all about ratings,an blog hits to them.Or they would only be putting out the Haliegh imfo.An Art could have been twisting things they did talk to him about.I didnt go by my middle name Jan,Hank knows me by another.So i have always talked good for them.Because they talk straight up to me!!!!Yes many,including me may flop around about theories,but its a good thing people are showing a compassionate side.
Jesus said he didnt come to coNdem them,but to save the lost.An restore them to their rightful place,as decent citizens.THeories arent Judging ,but for the ones who do God is the Juges wheather he choses to darw a person to salvation by his spirit,an conviction.An he said Judge not,unless you be Judged.We know there are laws of the land,an we also know Gods ways,arnt our way.When someone condems a person to hell,for something they done even know if the did it.Its a shame,an i think the condemer may have to anwser for it one day.God may chose to see the heart of that person ,not the outward things they have gotten in bondage over.An Who are we to make Judgement on what he created.Right or wrong they are his.They are all worth saving,if he choses to..
It could one day a decendents of ours be faced in a crises like this,who knows what will happen,an we surly will want a helping compassionate hand if it hits our door.
God Bless little Haliegh,an i will believe she deceaced only when i see her found,or at least a bone,proving its her,I just dont think this crew is smart enough to commit a perfict crime..I dont know what happened that night.But i think either LE NEEDS TO CHARGE THEM,OR MOVE ON,AN CHECK OTHERS OUT,PUT PRESSURE ON THEM,LIKE THEY HAVE THESE 2.Ig Haliegh is deceaced my she rest in peace with Jesus.
Rom worked for the tree trimming for family when he got caught up in the bust.Remember he had to get back to work,an he said he would pay for the 200 pills if he couldnt sell the it think he said in two weeks when he got paid.
He was working at PDM the night Haliegh went missing.Supposed to have finger scans to clock in,an out.
These also a crematorim someone said in Rons Rons family.In palaska i believe.Some even were saying they may of Dispoed of the body there.I heard this months back, from a friend on a blogg,didnt post it because i doupt that happened.I dont see them having access to the crematorum place.
You can feel sorry for Hank and Lisa but their choices in life has affected their children! They have stolen things, used drugs, did not make their children attend school and finish high school! They can not be praised for the way they have brought these children up! Misty and Tommy have mirrored the actions of the parents! And while he professes to love Haleigh he might have been more involved in getting the truth out of Misty and Tommy if it was one of HIS grandchildren, his own blood! It seems that he is more worried about Misty and Tommy doing jail time. Just listen to the jail house tapes, his true nature comes out in his own words.
trotline……… The bar were Ron’s Uncle was arrested is in Lake Como. I live less than a mile from it. Maybe you are thinking of River Pub?
Trot.. Or maybe you are thinking of Porky’s which is right on Lake George…….
Child porn ‘social networking site’ busted by feds
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/05/27/1650361/child-porn-social-networking-site.html#ixzz0pL1VgiVz
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/05/27/1650361/child-porn-social-networking-site.html
I wonder about Nay Nay’s baby’s daddy. Why was she trying to kidnap Destiny after Haleigh came up missing?
Jan57 said,in May 28th, 2010 at 8:34 pm Taxan you can follow my comments way back.I have been talking to Hank,an Lisa a long time by way of phone,how ever not in the last few weeks for some reason neither have called,or i havent called sence over a week when i couldnt reach them.An i have always felt bad for them.Because they werent the Halieghs parentS,an had no control over what happened that night,even he had no control over what his children did,that night..Hank had been in the hospital from a wreck,with a badly broke up leg pins placed in his leg,an his back hurt.He has admitted he wasnt the greatest parent,an really doest know what happen.An prays his children who he does love,didnt have anything to do with this.
Un like the Anthonys,the Croslin parents as long as they had money,or not on probation where they could visit their children they did.Unlike the Anthonys who stopped visiting the daughter they uphold,an claim to love so much.An claim innocent even after smelling that trunk.
I do believe the Croslins love there children even though they have made some bad mistakes,he refused any money i offered to send them.So he,or Lisa wasnt trying to money grub.An i did warn him about Art,an his claim of both of Hanks daughter- in -laws giving him exclusivis.Because i knew they were in the dark about it,an didnt have a puter in that bording house.
May not even know how to use it.Hank called Chelsea,she claimed she never gave Art a exclusive interview.An told Hank,she had filed papers with LE for Art to stop calling her..I did that because its wrong for those girls,if they did to be feeding a man imfo,on family matters for it to be spread to NG FOR HER TO EXPLOITE.If they had imfo it should have been told to LE ONLY!!
Art or NG could care less about this family,Its all about ratings,an blog hits to them.Or they would only be putting out the Haliegh imfo.An Art could have been twisting things they did talk to him about.I didnt go by my middle name Jan,Hank knows me by another.So i have always talked good for them.Because they talk straight up to me!!!!Yes many,including me may flop around about theories,but its a good thing people are showing a compassionate side.
Jesus said he didnt come to coNdem them,but to save the lost.An restore them to their rightful place,as decent citizens.THeories arent Judging ,but for the ones who do God is the Juges wheather he choses to darw a person to salvation by his spirit,an conviction.An he said Judge not,unless you be Judged.We know there are laws of the land,an we also know Gods ways,arnt our way.When someone condems a person to hell,for something they done even know if the did it.Its a shame,an i think the condemer may have to anwser for it one day.God may chose to see the heart of that person ,not the outward things they have gotten in bondage over.An Who are we to make Judgement on what he created.Right or wrong they are his.They are all worth saving,if he choses to..
It could one day a decendents of ours be faced in a crises like this,who knows what will happen,an we surly will want a helping compassionate hand if it hits our door.
God Bless little Haliegh,an i will believe she deceaced only when i see her found,or at least a bone,proving its her,I just dont think this crew is smart enough to commit a perfict crime..I dont know what happened that night.But i think either LE NEEDS TO CHARGE THEM,OR MOVE ON,AN CHECK OTHERS OUT,PUT PRESSURE ON THEM,LIKE THEY HAVE THESE 2.Ig Haliegh is deceaced my she rest in peace with Jesus.
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Now thats a good post!!!!!!!!!!!
Lisa and Hank are not even related but their lives have been destroyed over what their kids are accused of,Nobbody can change the past,if they could i know I would love to change some mistakes that I clearly know I made and i guarantee you,Hank and Lisa would too!!
Trotline,i saw your pix too..lol
and i must tell you,if you keep that snake round i won’t be back….rofl
I am more scared of snakes than anything in in this world,OMG am I…..but only 2 kinds, a dead one or a live one..lol…….if i look through a book and come to a page with snake on a page,I’ll throw the book………lol didn’t come in handy in school either….lol
But i really enjoyed your pix till that snake ran me off like the one did TN!
I wonder if Haleigh and Jr were with Ron when he kept going over to Diane Prevatt’s house? What else did he do that weekend? Did he provoke anyone?
From an article at newspaper Jackonville.com.
The mother said Naynay and Misty were at Diane Prevatt’s residence the Friday before Haleigh vanished. She said Ronald Cummings, Haleigh’s father, came by three times wanting to see Misty, who was asleep.
When he was not allowed inside, he returned with Misty’s clothes and threw them outside, Diane Prevatt said.
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