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Investigators were back out in Satsuma, Fla. looking for clues in the Haleigh Cummings investigation Tuesday. She’s the 5-year-old girl who disappeared from her bed in her father’s mobile home 14 months ago.
Sources told WFTV a suspect is in custody, but wouldn’t provide any additional details.
News Talk 97.3 the Sky is working hard to get confirmation on this claim.
Jacksonville.com reports a break may have come in the case from Misty Croslin, who was with Haleigh and the youngster’s brother the evening before the kindergartner disappeared. Her attorney said Croslin, who is jailed on drug-trafficking charges, may have provided helpful information that led to other leads.”This latest search was based on information from someone else,” said attorney Robert Fields. He said Croslin may have “shed some light” on who was responsible.”Somebody else has possibly been implicated in this,” he said. “You need to look away from Misty.”
Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy spoke to members of the press Tuesday afternoon regarding the search for missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings of Satsuma around a boat ramp not far from her home where she was last seen February 9, 2009.
According to Hardy, Haleigh or her remains have not been found, but insists “the search will go on as long as it takes.”
Hardy stated that he had met with family members earlier on Tuesday, but declined to say what was discussed.
That search remains focused along the St. John’s River between Wellaka and Satsuma near County Road 309.
Several law enforcement boats have been scouring the river near the boat ramp at the end of Shell Harbor Road, which is blocked off by deputies.
This is an area that was searched about a year ago.
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good job simon
Yeah, but WHO is this suspect? DANG IT!!!!!!
Thanks again, Simon! Right on top of things, as usual.
Hey KIR….Hey OJ….so WHO do you think this suspect is? Someone we aren’t even aware of? Or someone we already suspected? OR, someone already in custody?
This is the most Haleigh articles we’ve EVER had in one day! This is insane!
Was this suspect brought into custody today or was all ready in custody? Details are sketchy at best. Maybe once Haleigh is found, answers will be forthcoming. Thanks Simon, Jan, and TJ for keeping us updated.
Dang I wish Cobra would join us. Maybe he has an idea who this person is that is supposedly in custody!
THanks Simon.
Robin – we don’t know. That is what we’re wondering. When they say a suspect is in custody that doesn’t tell us whether they were ALREADY in custody or if they’ve made a new arrest….we’re trying to figure that out!
Where is Texasmom? She’s been trying to beat Crystal and clan into submission for days….I’m thinking by the look of things today that was not an accurate assumption and Crystal’s family was NOT involved. IMVHO anyway
I think if a suspect was brought in the media would have been all over it. JMO
I think wftv got it wrong..there was an arrest near the search but unrelated.
http://www.wftv.com/news/23138607/detail.html
ky….well, if they already had them picked up before they started the search no one would have been the wiser. They could have taken them into custody yesterday and planned the search for today. Who knows! This is frustrating!
From the SICK and SUCKY amatuer detective:
LFLORIDA, LindyLooWho, and i other are covering the NEWS out of Palatka….each taking a different station on Twitter….
I will forward their updates.
You’re right JB. Where is Misty?
I think Misty’s brother failed the LDT. Maybe that’s why Misty couldn’t pass. She was hiding something.
My sources say that Misty’s brother plea bargained and provided investigators with information implicating his sister.
According to local reports, the Cummings family met with police for about two hours this morning and were visibly upset when they left.
Stormy 2919 is the other Tweeter to follow….
Mistys back in St Johns Jail
I recall the search dogs and the route they scented (home to boat dock to home to neighborhood to home to railroad tracks) – maybe (IMO) its actually somehow in reverse and that the end happened at the boat dock near their home? (Just a thought.)
I have prayed that Haleigh would be found alive but lately, I pray that Haleigh can just be brought home to her family.
KY – last I heard Misty was on her way from St John’s to Putnam Co for a new interview.
HollysG – we’ll take any info you can find!
SoonEnough – I’m beginning to think none of these people can pass a LDT because they’re all guilty of something! Ugh!
Mrs. T… Robert Fields, Mistys attorney, has said that Misty has implicated this person and everyone needs to look away from Misty. That tells me she is not involved.
Mrs. T. And your sources are reliable?
The inmate search is showing Misty is back in jail
Stormy 2919 covering FirstCoastNews
Denise…I’m with you…but at the same time my mind goes to Baez claiming Casey is innocent…I guess Fields could be doing the same thing. At this point WHO KNOWS! DANG IT! I just want to know the truth!
A woman I blog with on another site,who lives in Fl. She said the news just reported arrest in TN in connection to Haleigh case,also misty is no longer in jail,can’t find any info on her.I’m thinking she in protective order now.I’m trying to find out if this is Joe who was arrested in TN. Also there has been a box removed from the river.Hopefully to hear more soon.
Dang…I’ve got to go folks….Prayers for Haleigh! Keep the faith that this baby WILL be found and justice served swiftly!
EllFlorida AKA LFlorida @ BNN covering NEwsJax4
Ell’s most recent tweet:
Sh.Jeff is on the scene. Never searched by investigators before. Tip rec’d yesterday, following up on lead. Divers searched murky river.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5055687&postcount=330
picture of whatever was pulled out of river
Stormy 2919 update from FirstCOastNews:
1stcoastnews stated again that something was found, but it was not Haleighs body,
EllFlorida Cadaver dawgs on land. Neighbors hope she’s alive, but if some harm has come to her, it’s time for it to end. Search will continue.
EllFlorida Talking about silt. 3-5 ft deep. [not sure if they mean 3-5 ft under water or under silt.] No one allowed in unless they live there.
EllFlorida Sheriff talked w/Haleigh’s family in a very private conversation. Jen’s opinion of Hardy’s demeanor – she talked about snagging a convo w/JH
EllFlorida Whether or not something of significance was found here, they will not say. “We signed up for this. The family didn’t.” – JHardy.
Misty was taken out of SJC jail to meet with investigators in Putnam County but it was never disclosed where. Talking about demeanor again.
Jen talked to RRyan who said there’s not a lot we can say. They are very understanding here in Putnam County. Sheriff is very understanding.
JB said,
in April 13th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Mrs. T. And your sources are reliable?
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That’s right he maybe another Jose B.
EllFlorida: What was most telling was when she asked JH if this was going into a homicide invesigation. [It was always a 2 prong investigation, imo]
JB said,
in April 13th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Mrs. T. And your sources are reliable?
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That’s right he “MR. Fields” maybe another Jose B.
EllFlorida Something is going on because JH was so emotional [Jen’s opnion]. Talking about Laura’s i/v w/JH. We never see him out & talking so it’s vip
Keep refreshing & posting guys….Lots going on….Will continue updates for you….
JB said,in April 13th, 2010 at 4:48 pm Where is Texasmom? She’s been trying to beat Crystal and clan into submission for days….I’m thinking by the look of things today that was not an accurate assumption and Crystal’s family was NOT involved. IMVHO anyway
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Let’s be nice. Many have picked on Ron for over a year and it doesn’t look like he’s involved, but I don’t hear people gloating about it.
Plus, it’s not over yet.
EllFlorida Active scene. Monitoring search. Tune back in at 6:30 p.m. for more or go to news4jax.com. Ambulance just left the jail, unrelated.
Hollys Gmom you are awesome Thank You Thank You Thank You !!!!
It’s possible that if Tommy flunked the LDT, he flunked because he tried to co-sign Misty’s story… of course it could work the other way 2!
Ron has acted odd. But you are probably right ME. Ron would not have been brought in with t he rest of the family if it were him that was involved. But Crystal and her clan needs to be left alone also. This has to be soo hard on Crystal and lil jr.
I’m so dense, HollysGmom, could you please translate, “snagging a convo w/JH.” This means Sherrif Hardy was “heavy?” Or…?
Thanks Niterbug…I try
even though i get hammered, and slandered and told I’m sick and sux at what I do…LOL!
I WILL STILL CONTINUE!!!
EllFlorida Live vid – you can see a long hose or cord from pavement @ boat ramp to maybe 7-10 ft out in river, diver werking there. Fender on right.
EllFlorida It’s the fender on the right if you are in the river facing toward the ramp. [that prolly isn’t the right werd for it. w/e]
Hollys Gmom : Never mind the ones that are unappreciative!! There are plenty of us who are!!
HGM, you have always been alright with me. Keep up the good work. jmo
Sorry Kate…I’m just snatching her tweets and bringing them over…I was hoping one of you guys knew what it meant…
Yea, sorry guys…Just feeling sort of VINDICATED this afternoon….
HGM, could they have found her necklace that she has on in all her pics? It was never said whether it was recovered in the MH that night. jmo
Thanks Hollys Gmom – We appreciate you sharing information.
It could be possible….I am going to look around for any videos to post for you guys….
Jan, please let the links through…they will only be FirstCoastNews, Jax4, or other reliable news sources.
Looking for any vids of “box” found or other related items as well as updated footage of ongoing search
EllFlorida ooh, looks like 6 divers in the water now. Several on the fender thing resting, accepting found items, recording info.
EllFlorida clarification – “it” meaning hwy 309 – the route I would take to get from Ron’s to Annette’s.
less than 5 seconds ago via web
What about the other tapes that were suppose to be released? Maybe there is something on them..
HOllY – Great Detective work – Thanks for sharing. U Rock!
Simon, Jan, TJ, Cobra, you all are a great team and have done an excellent job staying with this case for so long. If not for your refusal to let it go, whomever is responsible could have very well gotten away with it for life, as the case could very well have gone cold.
The INNsider is me, HGM
TheINNsider I’ll also be leaving here in just over an hour…I will tweet from road and get online as soon as I reach home
Every single evil and vile person that persecuted Ron Cummings should write him a letter of apology. But I’m sure he won’t hold his breath.
EllFlorida Earlier today on news4jax, someone [Jen?] reported that she had spoken to AuntK on the phone. Jen asked for reaction. AuntK: not surprised.
Maybe Misty cooperated in return for ALL drug charges DROPPED? She is RELEASED, far as I can tell, and not booked at Putnam.
Karen – Has Ron been cleared? I missed that. Hollys Gmom – who is AuntK? Thanks!
Karen will you marry me?
HGM – Thanks.
Yes, he was cleared months and months ago. Sorry you “missed” it.
JB said,in April 13th, 2010 at 4:48 pm Where is Texasmom? She’s been trying to beat Crystal and clan into submission for days….I’m thinking by the look of things today that was not an accurate assumption and Crystal’s family was NOT involved. IMVHO anyway
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LOL, I am in and out JB. I am waiting patiently for answers before I eat or dish. Thanks for thinking about me.
I dont know why people would ever stick up for ron….anyway i really hope they get to the bottom of this soon…not one of those people should have been able to have custody of this child….so sad!
Karen – I thought there was something announced today that I missed. There is so much information being exchanged. I can’t keep track!
Didn’t I tell ya’ll Ron was declared officially cleared ?
My boy looks strange and quiet.
He almost looks like he is not surprized at what was revealed.
How in the heck do I get to the EllFlorida thing or twitter, I’m lost.
ronfan, where are you looking at your boy? I have seen a number of news videos on the search scene but none of the family, including Ron.
HollysGmom, lol, glad I wasn’t the only one, “convo” comment.
Sorry, but I don’t see any reason for people to gloat or feel “vindicated” for any reason.
Last night all you did was re-post a post from Indochie for pete’s sake, HGm and try to guess who it was. And now you are “reporting” tweets. All of which is terrific but really… GLOATING? Unreal.
And at a time like this?
Tasteless.
Watch the vultures fly!
Still praying for Haleigh.
More than you did, M2C.
CocoaHead said,in April 13th, 2010 at 4:55 pm According to local reports, the Cummings family met with police for about two hours this morning and were visibly upset when they left.
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Where the Sheffields not to meet with LE as well? Is there any other local reports on this that clearly states only one side met with LE?
m2c♥ you really are too much….
RonFan, will you marry me?
Hate to say this but……I’m so freaking lost and I’ve followed this case since “pedifire” and the “Putnam County Hairdressers”. Help!
m2ce–Amen to 5:52 post.
Kate: I’m on first coast news, it’s just a constant live thing, the reporters having conversations, and making faces in the camera, so go see it.
WHAT REALLY PISSES ME OFF IS THAT SH.HARDY ADMITTED THAT WAS AN AREA “that we haven’t searched before”…(just like they said about the little 11yr old girl today, they said they hadn’t searched that area “because they had no reason to think she would be there.)
ronfan, type twitter dot com, then a forward slash, followed by EllFlorida.
TExas Mom
Where did you read only the Cummings family were called in?
For those looking for video of the family members brought to the jail today for interviews, go to FirstCoast news. On right, click on “Family Gathers at Palatka..”
Yes, MG and TN were both there, as was Crystal and Ron.
Crystal crying is quite revealing.
Ron with his “glare stare” (when he just stares straight ahead) is upsetting.
Joe,Joe,Joe
Timmy,Timmy
Hello back, EllFlorida!
Could the evidence be the blanket, I wonder?
Sheffields met with PSCO earlier today
Crystal crying is quite revealing.
Ron with his “glare stare” (when he just stares straight ahead) is upsetting.
Joe,Joe,Joe
Timmy,Timmy
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Ron fan
Where are you getting this info from.
Thanks, TJ. So glad to see you up and running!
On Tuesday, he was at his home in Antioch. He wasn’t willing to talk but his mother did offer a comment.
“We have not heard anything from anybody in Florida. I know the little girl is still missing. We’ve not heard anything. My son is at home, not doing anything, bothering nobody. People continue to bother him,” said Overstreet’s mother.
Overstreet’s mother said on Tuesday that police haven’t talked to him in six months.
http://www.wsmv.com/news/23141306/detail.html
It’s been a very busy day in the F.L.A.. Nadia was found alive, for which we are all grateful; and Haleigh, it would appear, is soon to be found as well.
Or is she?
It’s been more than a year since her disappearance and so I have to wonder, with much reluctance, what might be left of her to find, if in fact the river became her grave? A river teaming with unfriendly currents, boat traffic and varying species of creatures that feed on flesh.
As such are the facts that the rescue/search teams have to deal with and consider in their search. It may be nothing more than one single bone that they find, or a scrap of clothing or swatch of hair tangled in a fallen tree branch that hasn’t succombed to deterioration from time and the elements.
Also, what of the “box” that it seems the divers handled – might that have been used to weigh her down, or might she have been inside it, at one time? Or could it just be a type of sonar they are using to help them see through all of the muck and the mire?
As yet we are all left to wonder, and to wait most anxiously for whatever scrap of information is offered that might lead to our better understanding.
No one of us, with any heart at all, will ever understand how even the most monstrous could ever take the life of a child; but of course we are all yet hoping beyond hope that by some great miracle of God, Haleigh will be found alive.
Respectfully,
Olivia
Ron fan
Send me the link Please….
ky mom: my 6:04 pm post will take you to the video
“Sources close to the investigation tell me that they have a person in custody,” WOFL’s Kelly Joyce said from Putnam County. “That person told them that they could find Haleigh’s body at the bottom of the St. Johns River here today, and I’m told they found something, but the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office isn’t saying what they found.”
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/haleigh-cummings-is-there-a-break-in-the-case.html
OK here it is. George Anthony reached out to Misty in a letter and they became “pen pals”…it was something misty wrote to George that George passed along to detectives.
RadioNewz Asked if she had closure, Haleigh’s grandmother Teresa Neves, Ronald Cummings’ mother, replied, “No, that’s all I can say” FCN
and YES…sometimes 2+2=5
RadioNewz She returned to St. Johns County jail this afternoon. Her attorney Robert Fields, said today that the tip did not come from his client. FCN
EllFlorida Whaaa…???!!! Who did Levi talk to then? OMG! LEVI — HANG UP THE PHONE. omg
I’m assuming this is about JVM show
Texasmommy39 said,in April 13th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Where the Sheffields not to meet with LE as well? Is there any other local reports on this that clearly states only one side met with LE?
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It doesn’t appear the Sheffields were there? Very odd. But I can’t imagine Misty being able to give LE any info about the Sheffields being involved.
BBL…have to go to work….back as soon as I can. Praying for Haleigh and her loved ones.
Everybody watching JVM….
Reported on twitter multiple times that CS & MG also at PCSO today…
A toy box was in the river.
Yes… First Coast news video says both sides of the family was at PCSO today….
ronfan, found the First Coast News site, finally remembered them, watched them, came back here and saw your post. It does not sound or look good at all. They all look very, very sad.
I am watching it and I am getting better info on here…JVM is boring me…thank you to everyone for all the new updates.
EllFlorida HankSr was aware of today’s events, but if investigators couldn’t talk about it, neither could he. 2 g’mas & Ronald’s aunt.[maybe more missd
The Sheffields were there . There is a video to prove this.
EllFlorida 5 miles south of Satsuma. Jeff Hardy is on-scene. Since 9:30 this morning. Investigators have found something, dunno what it is.
Could anyone clear up who Aunt K is?
stormy2919 actionnews saying MC”s parents lived close to there, well so does GGM and RC’s Aunt….
Me
Here is proof that Crystal and family were there.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=77863874001
What is the latest? Please
Hey all – anything new? Any updates?
Geraldo just arrived to open the box!
Just trying to think out of the box..has there been any interesting persons in the SJSO jail log? I see one guy Leo Williams arrested on multiple out of county warrants with no bond.
JVM going over old stuff..why isn’t she live at the scene?
JVM going over old stuff..why isn’t she live at the scene?
THEY FOUND A TOY
New search prompted by unknown tipster….Box found at location…Contents unknown at this time….
Poster last night claimed case solved, Haleigh found….info to support person could be in the “know”
Leonard Padilla supposedly told Levi Page that Chelsey told him that they needed to check this area and there is something about a piece of yellow rope that was involved early on in the case.
Tommy might be the one that cracked, this is all on JVM now.
They found a toy, and there is something about a yellow rope, BUT WHAT THE HELL, HERE I GO AGAIN, THE MASSACHUSSETTS CONNECTION….
TOMMY RATTED OUT TIMMY, ITS ON NEWS LIVE NOW.
Ron fan
What kind of toy.
They found a toy, and there is something about a yellow rope, BUT WHAT THE HELL, HERE I GO AGAIN, THE MASSACHUSSETTS CONNECTION….
TOMMY RATTED OUT TIMMY, ITS ON NEWS LIVE NOW.
So the tipster was Chelsea?
Ron fan
Send us links please.
denvip654 levi says tommy is the source according to LP…huh? wha? hmmm
Thank you HGM…your a gem!
You mean Timmy ratted out Tommy?
Timmy did this? What? What is going on live right now? Tommy ratted out Timmy? What did Timmy do? I’m so lost! Someone please tell me what is going on!
LindyLooWho_ They did not search what they have today on a hunch of anything.They found something that tells them she is there,,no doubts,no hunch
No, Levi said that Chelsea gave the info. on JVM. He said nothing about Tommy.
1990 Chrysler van implicated. Imagine that.
I’m asking tweters for update on Timmy vs Tommy…Will let you know…
Levi confuses me. I think he means well but I just don’t get him.
I personally can not stand Levi Page.
Karen,,Good point he is weezelish
DITTO Karen re: Levi 🙁
So what is the scoop folks? Timmy took Haleigh? Chelsey ratted out her own husband? What’s with the yellow rope? Why would Timmy do this and did Tommy know about it or just Misty? What about the van? PLEASE, someone tell me what is going on!
Large blue Ice cooler just pulled up,is what NG just reported
NG also reporting that as of today this is officially a homicide investigation
WOW. It WAS Tommy who led investigators to this search.
Nancy Grace is always raging at the wrong person…
JB, is that you?
KeepItReal said,in April 13th, 2010 at 7:09 pm WOW. It WAS Tommy who led investigators to this search
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Then who was Simon talking to on the phone? He certainly didn’t call Tommy up @ the jail.
Large blue ice cooler…all kinds of crap down there at the boat ramp. All boats have coolers on them. Cooler looked new not like it was in the water for a year.
Shes dead, its a homicide
KAREN said,in April 13th, 2010 at 7:13 pm KeepItReal said,in April 13th, 2010 at 7:09 pm WOW. It WAS Tommy who led investigators to this search
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Then who was Simon talking to on the phone? He certainly didn’t call Tommy up
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Have no clue. This was just info on NG, so don’t know how much of it is true. Per AH
“Nancy Grace is always raging at the wrong person…”
True, but I agree they are all guilty if they covered up what happened.
Shes dead, its a homicide, wonder if that 1st Haleigh sighting in Tenn was real, and the fkn one in Mass, the van is involved, chelsea is involved said L.Padilla, remember about 3 weeks ago L.Padilla said Chelsea was a lier?
(((((Hey Jason))))!!!!!
KIR – yes, it is me. What is going on? Not where I can watch TV and not finding anything online. So Tommy was the tipster? What did he say?
JB, according to AH on NG, supposedly Tommy failed his poly; then said he couldn’t hold this in any longer and told the PI things that led to this search today
Art Harris doesn’t know his azz from a hole in the ground.
what is Joe last name? Anybody please.
Did Timmy get arrested? If he is in Massachusetts then maybe we would not hear about an arrest yet until extradition back to FL. Is it Timmy or Tommy that is the suspect? I am at a loss since I can not watch tv right now.
Did Timmy get arrested? If he is in Massachusetts then maybe we would not hear about an arrest yet until extradition back to FL. Is it Timmy or Tommy that is the suspect? I am at a loss since I can not watch tv right now.
Overstreet
DO you all remember on the jail tapes that lindsey said I told them new thing and then she says well not new.
joe overstreet
Suspect in custody does not mean in Putnam county or maybe not in Fl at all
Be careful, different leads leaking out; 1 week before the contents of Misty’s letters were revealed, and who they were mailed to, Leonard Padilla already told detectives about it. (it was on AH site) AH had a whole interview w/Chelsea about it, and she called L.Padilla “crazy”, saying I never said that Misty told me anything, Misty’s crazy and so is L.P.
The next week, its revealed that Chelsea is the one who got the letter. Liar.
Van, whos van: Liars
Apparently, Tommy confessed and said he and Joe were together, and YES, IT WAS JOE, I KNEW IT ALL ALONG, THAT HE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT, POLICE WERE JUST TOO QUIET, but, I still think its way crooked, and lots of dirty stuff going on.
Yes, Tommy RATTED OUT TIMMY, but in order to do that and tell the truth, he had to confess his part in it too. He wanted to be the one who finally led the way, he broke inside, and almost od’d several times, and yes, Lindsey knew.
RON HAS SUSPECTED ALL ALONG.
MISTY IS NOT INVOLVED WITH HURTING HALEIGH.
Robin
On jailhouse tapes Tommy said Timmy failed his LD test.
KIR – thank you for the info. So did Tommy point at Timmy? And is the van really implicated or is that rumor? They say a suspect is in custody so does that mean Timmy or is Tommy the one that is in custody because he was part of this? Any info is GREATLY appreciated KIR!
Watching NG right now.
That little bitch Misty knew her cousin took the baby and she did nothing!
A whole year goes by and she says nothing and she marries Ron?
I knew she had some part this because of all of her lies and if you listened to her on the phone after she was robbed she was WAY MORE upset about being robbed than her step daughter being kidnapped.
Tommy is the only one to come forward and give some info.
Also.I have been following this case form day one.Wasn’t “joe” her cousin cleared as a suspect in the beginning or was that another red neck cousin? This is all confusing.Atleast now the Sheffields may have the closure they more than deserve to have.I am glad we are close to finding out what happened finally.If Haleigh is indeed dead,I hope ALL the Croslin’s spend the rest of their worthless ,redneck lives in jail for this!
Misty had to know something.
“hurt two people, Chelsea, use your head and you’ll know”
and Art the Gossip did report about the Polygraph guy being fabulous at obtaining confessions; it sounds like Ron Grenier, the man who Art Harris says administered Tommy’s poly, is a master at lulling people into confessions. Sounds to me like Grenier got Tommy to talk, Misty was over at Putnam to confirm stuff that Tommy said, and yes, it’s Timmy? Whoa. I have to sit down. Wait, I am sitting down. I have to lie down…
OMG – so what did they do to Haleigh and WHY? So Joe, Tommy and Timmy were all in on this? With or without Misty’s knowledge? If she knew why didn’t she tell if she wasn’t involved? Amazing that Tommy would break and not Misty.
The video showing Ron walking out of the Putnam jail was strange. He didn’t look sad…he looked smug or something….maybe it was just the angle or something but he didn’t look upset to me. Maybe he was glad to finally get the truth and knows justice will now be served.
But why did they do this? For every answer I get I have 50 more questions! Argh!
Ron and Crystal and families need closure. Poor lil Haleigh. Wonder what happened?
jb
I’d say Ron doesn’t look sad because he is wanting to kill someone.
where does Joe overstreet live in TN? Has anyone checked to see if he is in jail? thank you
so why would Misty allow these animals to take Haleigh. I’m sure Haleigh went willingly but WHAT did they do to that baby and WHY? And Misty KNEW this and did nothing?! What was the motive for taking and killing Haleigh? How did they kill her? Please tell me they didn’t do terrible unspeakable things to her first! OMG! My heart is going to break! They did this to get back at Ron for something? And Misty KNEW and did nothing! Married Ron and went on with her life! OMG! I want to snatch her bald and claw her flipping eyes out! The entire family are animals if this is all true!
Okay, Timmy, Tommy and Joe, remember when Misty said, “Four shadowy figures?” when she did the Tim Miller poly and voice analysis? And that when asked whether or not Ron was involved her result indicated “confusion” rather than “deception.” Just comes to mind right now. But comments flying around so fast, harder than usual to separate fact from inference.
I hope they let Ron out of jail.
jb said,in April 13th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
The video showing Ron walking out of the Putnam jail was strange. He didn’t look sad…he looked smug or something….maybe it was just the angle or something but he didn’t look upset to me. Maybe he was glad to finally get the truth and knows justice will now be served.
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Are you talking about the OLD video clip from last year?
Ron’s expression was weird to me… can’t say if he looked pleased/hurt/controlled/nuts.
Hi – is all of this info coming out of the Nancy Grace show? Has Timmy been arrested? Where can I read about this? Thanks.
I know we r all watching Nancy Grace…right…???
A blue chest just pulled out off th st johns river. WTF
justice for Haleigh. Any suspect gets th death penalty
KY – yeah it was eerie when I saw the video of Ron coming out of the jail. Everyone else looked devestated but he looked strange….like the wheels were turning and he had a plan of what he was going to do….it was just strange. If he ever gets his hands on Misty, Timmy, Tommy and/or Joe it is over for them….and rightfully so. So are there any article anywhere where I can find all this info or just on TV. I can’t find ANYTHING updated online and can’t watch TV right now.
JB
About 9 oclock or a little after go to you tube and put in sierra 1947 and she will have Nancy grace show.
Remember me and you talking about Tommy saying Timmy failed his LD test.?
Karen That was a bit harsh…and uncalled for. Let’s not be ugly to one another. I was guilty of the same offense earlier today and my apologies to Texasmom….I was frustrated and irritated with this case but that didn’t make it right for me to be ugly to my fellow bloggers. So let’s direct our anger and frustration to those who took the life of this beautiful innocent child and covered for one another for the last 14 months. It is them that deserve our anger and wrath…not our fellow bloggers…..IMVHO
At the very beginning of the case, Grandma Holler said that of the two, Joe would be the likely one to harm a child. I remember thinking how weird, and then the sighting in Tn.
Tommy confessed, but Grandma confirmed.
Remember when the story broke that Tommy came by and stole a gun? Well now the story seems to be that Tim and Joe, Misty’s cousin, came by to steal the gun but it wasn’t there. Joe got pissed and took Haleigh.
It has also been reported that Misty Croslin’s attorney has known what Misty has been hiding since she was arrested on drug trafficing charges when she sold prescription pain killers oxycodone and oxycoton to an undercover officer.
KY – thanks for the info…and yes, I remember our discussion about Timmy and his LDT. This makes me sick….I’m really shocked that this many people could keep this secret for so long. So have they arrested Timmy and Joe?
Kymntexas310 – Where are you reading this? I am lost!
To all my friends here. I am headed out to Satsuma to th st johns river. I will try to update as I go. Or an article.
Pls keep Haleigh in ir hearts and prayers tonight as we might find her. Not how we wanted but it’s closure as we push for
justice.
Light a candle everyone pls. As I wipe my tears tonight. I can’t help but to think God for my life.
Haleigh has made me such a better parent. Such a better person.
Y’all thank Simon an TJ for his hard work an diligence. They r truly Haleigh’s heroes.
I my self have spend endless nights uploading video files for BNN and all of you.
Thnx. I’ll keep up as I head to ugly ass Satsuma. It’s gloomy and drizzling here in St Agustine
I went to Joe’s sisters myspace and nothing interesting was on there. I haven’t seen anything on the news about Tommy or Timmy.
Ron’s look might have been disgust for marring Misty and her with info of Haleigh all this time.JMO
Misty has been screaming from the onset that she thought Joe had something to do with it or did it, she even went public with that in the first few days of Haleigh’s disappearance. The LE went and investigated Joe but said they questioned him and he was not a suspect. With that being fact how could they now say Misty is in sync with Joe when she was the first to publicly accuse him and send Police his way. Perhaps she heard something in the course of time since the disappearance that she felt is suspicious and may lead to something. Maybe something somebody said or did and then that person lead to another and so on. One thing for sure Crystal did not have anything to do with this. Police may need Misty more than ever so attacking her is not the way to go. She did not carry this child 5 miles, kill her, place her in the water walk back 5 miles in wet clothes or change there at the scene, then dry her clothes at home and remove any and all evidence. That did not happen and she was pointing Police to Joe from the beginning so she would not be involved in it with him. I think she was just sleeping and some one got in. Was he at the home earlier? Did he open a window or Tommy with the thought to steal something. Then Joe went to far and Tommy does not want to say because he is then culpable as well, or it was Joe alone. I don’t think it is anything more than she was asleep and one of these guys got in and took Haleigh, she would not lie for them and she has been pointing at them from the beginning and everyone has attacked her for it, let her tell her story. JMHO
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
Karen – this does not sound like you. I know this is all upsetting but why so harsh?
I am dumb because I have an opinion? Ha!
I pray for Haleigh and her families.I pray that a end can come soon. I am wanted to post something but i cant find the words for all the tears. Keep praying everyone please!!!
That is not our KARON!!!
At 3pm on Sierra’s youtube channel I see today’s ‘Issues’ show so far..is Sierra going to have the Nancy Grace show uploaded there too?
I really hope we all find out all the facts soon and the families can get closure. This is so sad.
how do we know for sure timmy was involved ? i did not here anything about timmy on nancy g.i heard it was tommy who finally told. i still dont know where timmy comes in. does anyone know?
how do we know for sure timmy was involved ? i did not here anything about timmy on nancy g.i heard it was tommy who finally told. i still dont know where timmy comes in. does anyone know?
If Joe did this why did Misty go down to Tenn. in Oct. for 2 weeks and stay there/ If she was afraid of him she would never go near him this is BS again. She is lying about her involvement or Joes. Something stinks in this story. jmo
TheRealArmando….Gods Speed and a safe journey. Thank you for all you do.
Jan, Simon, TJ….God Bless you for sticking with this story and seeing it through. It is still far from over but at least maybe someday soon Haleigh can be laid to rest properly and be given the justice she deserves.
I can’t help but think how SICK Ron must feel knowing he shared his bed with Misty and her family is responsible for the murder of his child. I pray Haleigh did not suffer and did not endure sexual abuse from Joe the sicko. Ron and Crystal may not have been ideal parents but NO parent deserves this.
Armando,
Thank you very much for all you have done and continue to do to help keep everyone informed.
I have deleted this comment along with a few others of KAREN’s because there are unnecessary name calling and we can’t allow that in here. PLEASE do NOT do this again.
Thank you,
Jan Barrett – BNN Editor
Hi everyone,
So much is going on it’s hard to keep up. I’m hearing conflicting stories.
I just don’t know what to think. The Timmy & Tommy thing has me confused. If I understood right, Tommy decided to tell what he knew. Don’t know that for a fact, but that’s what it sounded like. I can’t get the local news to get anymore information.
I am extremely upset that all these people knew something and kept quiet this entire time. I know some think differently, but I still don’t think Ron had anything to do with it. I can’t imagine what is going thru his mind right now. None of them would be safe if Ron were to be out of jail right now. He didn’t try and hide it, he told the world what he would do.
I pray Haleigh is not in that blue cooler they described. It doesn’t look good though.
This is taking forever to refresh. I think everyone is just upset and wants to vent.
I agree with Armando. I’m going to light a candle right now. The family needs our prayers.
My heart goes out to all of you too. I know you all have a lot invested in Haleigh.
((((Hello, Beautiful!!!)))
tobias said,in April 13th, 2010 at 8:15 pm If Joe did this why did Misty go down to Tenn. in Oct. for 2 weeks and stay there/ If she was afraid of him she would never go near him this is BS again. She is lying about her involvement or Joes. Something stinks in this story. jmo
Todays search seems to be a huge break but I don’t know how anyone could possibly consider taking any of these people’s words for absolute truth about any single part of this case until there is clear cut evidence period.
For all we know the current finger pointing is merely a continued attempt to deflect blame away from the person(s) who are truly responsible.
Ron is actually looking healthier. No drugs, he looks much better.
WileyWiccan @DiamondC1arity LE said that evidence led to the search. I have no clue what it
Tuff, I TOTALLY AGREE if Misty was afraid of Joe why would she go to Tenn. in Oct. for 2 weeks? Tommy was probably involved and Misty was but who else is speculation. jmo
I’m thinking accident followed by HUGE cover-up.
I think Tommy and Misty are trying to put the blame on Joe but it was the two of them alone.
Misty has been in jail for quite some time and her saying that she was afraid of Joe while being locked up just doesn’t work there either.
It’s bogus imvho.
My theory had Tommy there because he had the oppotunity to unlock the door earlier in the day. I threw Joe in as a possibility but now I see him as a scapegoat foe Tommy and Misty. Tommy even said he cant send Joe to prison if he doesnt know for sure he did something. I think that meant he couldnt blame it on Joe so he could go free. Tommy and Misty did this.jmo
At the moment I’m not buying into the Tommy/Timmy/Joe scenario. I honestly have NOT read/heard any serious mention that this is what was told. If I have missed it, please direct me… Thanks!
If it were an accident don’t you think they’d fess up before now?
Ooooo! Good perspective Tobias.
Anyone else having a harD time posting?
Did the map link come through?
HollysGmom – you are back. Are there current articles out there? I did not watch Nancy Grace – it is hard for me to imagine all of the news came out of her show. Thanks.
Right Tobias but Tommy did say that Misty wasn’t at home when he went to the MH that night (although he now seems to be recanting that story.) he DID implicate foul play on Misty’s part though.
The latest I know of would be 10:00 pm news, probably.
I will continue to post the twitters & links though. LindyLouWho & EllFlorida are still going strong.
Ron did look much healthier….but I think he will kill Tommy, Timmy, Joe or Misty if he ever gets the chance.
I’m not a fan of Ron, I do believe he put his children in danger with the people he surrounded himself with and with the choices he made…but I do not and would not wish this on him or anyone. He made some mistakes and those mistakes cost Haleigh her life. My heart goes out to Ron and Crystal for their loss. I don’t agree with their lifestyles and drug use but they shouldn’t have to go through this. It appears ALL the blame rests with this Croslin Freak Clan of Redneck Druggies. I will be TRULY amaze if Misty did not know exactly what happened and she has remained silent to protect her family.
Ron did look much healthier….but I think he will kill Tommy, Timmy, Joe or Misty if he ever gets the chance.
I’m not a fan of Ron, I do believe he put his children in danger with the people he surrounded himself with and with the choices he made…but I do not and would not wish this on him or anyone. He made some mistakes and those mistakes cost Haleigh her life. My heart goes out to Ron and Crystal for their loss. I don’t agree with their lifestyles and drug use but they shouldn’t have to go through this. It appears ALL the blame rests with this Croslin Freak Clan of Redneck Druggies. I will be TRULY amaze if Misty did not know exactly what happened and she has remained silent to protect her family.
Witness Butterbean said that [the man who took Haleigh] had SQUEAKY shoes.
If I recall correctly, Ronald said Joe liked to fish in the area of the river that is being searched.
Joe could have been wearing the squeaky shoes Butterbean told his mother about.
This isn’t adding up. If Joe took Haleigh, why would Tommy know where the body was unless he had been with Joe when he put her in the water?
Cent you are right, the Karen spelled with and ‘e’ wasn’t me. Thank you for sticking up for me.
Another thing that has been said that has bothered me, is that Lyndsay was Tommy’s alabi. She was at work that night until after 12;00a.m How do we know all of this took place after 12:00 a.m.?
Iam thinking someone was removing a boat and found something while doing it. Or someone fishing. We dont have any proof that the lead came from Tommy or Misty or any of the players.
This could be a random person who just found something.jmo
I was actually just stating my opinion on all of the people that are involved. It is very sad that this little girl is missing and I really hope she is alive. I hope everyone involved gets what they deserve.I will not sit here and be called an idiot because I have an opinion on these people and the case. Just because we dont agree doesnt mean you need to call me an dumbass and idiot.
Why would Timmy and Tommy be involved in Haleigh’s disappearance. makes no sence.
If you’ll remember, on that Timeline on the Haleigh room (PCSO) wall there was activity between 10:00 pm (TC at MH) and Midnight. The person on line in the middle exits until 3:00 am.
ALso 3rd person not active between approx 9:00 pm and 3am…(from memory)
A tweet… of a tweet!!!
http://
http://www.wsmv.com
/video/23141651
/index.html
Tobias:
LE is saying they got a tip and, then, some evidence they found led to the search.
THESKY973DOTCOM Update 3: PCSO Search for Haleigh Cummings http://easyuri.com/990fc
less than a minute ago via API
We need a new article/thread!!!!
Karon… no worries!!
Lindsy is on myspace but has her mood is not showing. Shewwwwwww.
True the tip could have ben from some one removing a boat or someone fishing pulled something up. Just saying we dont really know yet where the tip came from. LE hasnt told us who it was. jmo
Misty would sell out her bro or anyone else in a minute if she could get out of jail and vice versa
RadioNewz Sheriff: will search for Haleigh “as long as it takes” http://bit.ly/9mTUwk
THis is from Sarah SHeffields myspace..
The tears wont dry up,its endless pain!!A hole where my heart should be!We love & miss U Haleigh~Bug!!<3Mood: indescribable
I’ve lost track as to what is fact and what is theory. I no longer know what is what or who said or did what. I heard the van was implicated, that Tommy confessed and pointed the finger at Timmy and Joe but now I don’t know that ANY of that is fact. I think I’ll log off for tonight and hope that some fact will be awaiting me in the morning. My stomach hurts, my head hurts and my heart is aching. Haleigh didn’t deserve this and to think of the fear, pain and GAWD only knows what else she went through makes me physically ill. I cannot take anymore tonight. Please forgive me for stepping away but I am emotionally drained. God Bless Haleigh and all my fellow bloggers. Good night all.
I hope this posts, I have had a very hard time trying to post or even refresh the page.
I think the tip came from a source LE trusts or they wouldn’t go through such a massive search.
I have not believed the players all along and am not ready to suddenly believe them now.
As for Misty being so afraid of Joe she could not tell on him…was she or was she not seen out with him the next morning putting up flyers? IDK, but if I feared someone so much I was scared silent, I would not be within 50 yards of that person if I could help it.
I do think the search will/has produced something. I still think we are a long way to knowing what really happened, and will see the players point fingers at each other and everyone under the sun until some concrete evidence is obtained that tells them the gig is up. JMO.
Kate said,
in April 13th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Could anyone clear up who Aunt K is?
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I think Aunt K is Ron’s sister Krystal.
I need to call it a day. It is hard to post and no one is answering me! (kidding) I am going to let all of this settle and get sorted out tonight. I will go crazy trying to piece info together and figure out where all the news is coming from. If it is true that a homicide has been confirmed then at least her family can rest tonight knowing she is not suffering and in a much better place. I’ll read all of your posts in the morning. Thanks.
Did you all see the vid of Joe’s Mom? I posted it a few comments up… tried breaking it up… if not go to wsmv .com
JB
Go listen to Nancy grace on you tube. AH is saying Tommy and Misty’s grandmother is saying that Tommy called her and that Joe did it.
Aunt K. is Ron’s aunt Katrina.
I am in Canada and have not seen any more news other than NG, could you please let me know a website that might keep my informed?
jb said,in April 13th, 2010 at 7:54 pm Karen That was a bit harsh…and uncalled for. Let’s not be ugly to one another. I was guilty of the same offense earlier today and my apologies to Texasmom….I was frustrated and irritated with this case but that didn’t make it right for me to be ugly to my fellow bloggers. So let’s direct our anger and frustration to those who took the life of this beautiful innocent child and covered for one another for the last 14 months. It is them that deserve our anger and wrath…not our fellow bloggers…..IMVHO
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Thank you and I do completly understand. I am just so heart broken today… I am not in the mood to blog. I am in and out, for the time being, will BBL.
WJXT Jacksonville is saying no suspect in custody at this time?
Rons Aunt Katrina Hopes mom and TN sister. Good night all talk in the morn.jmo
I am glad to see that many ppl here arent slamming Misty…
I am wondering if anyone has considered that Tommy is the actual perp…?
We know he is the only one so far that has blatantly changed his story (8 months later) where he placed himself at the crimescene…
Now, again several months later, we hear of anotheof Tommys revelation, in fact it appears he may have led LE right to Haleigh’s remains, or at least some physical evidence that LE have appparantty found…
We hear Tommy has pointed the finger at Joe, who we know Misty had aired her suspicions about from day one.. (Clealrym, never seemed to be too scared of Joe..)
It is also alledged by AH (??) that Tommy has also implicated Misty as knowing this information all along and having been threatened as well….
Yet, Tommy is the one who always breaks and always seems to have “extra” info……
Isnt it logical to think that this crime may have been committed by Tommy either all by hismself, or possibly with Joe where Tommy needs to try to exhonerate himself from the crime by blaming Joe and then throwing in Misty as his material witness???
I havent read that this scenario is even being considered??? Seems very plausible to me..
Jus
Everything isn’t adding up, yet. There have been so many lies told, and it will take awhile for the whole truth to come out.
If you remember, a neighbor heard Misty’s voice raised about 2:30a.m. Maybe, she was trying to stop Joe from taking Haleigh, then. Or she could have been asking her brothers for help getting Haleigh back from Joe. I remember the first few days after this happened, Misty was awfully upset.
I don’t know what she told Ron to get him to stick bt her. The whole thing makes your head spin.
Misty could have been too out of it on drugs to realize Joe was taking Haleigh, until it was too late.
I don’t know. Am I wanting them all to be more innocent than they are? I can’t stand to think that all of them are that deep down bad.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the two sister-in-laws had enough and did some talking, themselves, to LE. I know Lynsay had begun tp fear losing her kids over this.
DB, go to firstcoast, jax, or wesh
Sky973.com
JAX4
FirstCoastNews.com
CNN
EllFlorida JenB reporting live from PCSO. [Bless their hearts, stuck down here again.] Annette sez we need prayers. We’re doing the best we can.
EllFlorida AS: There’s always hope. See that girl right there on TV – every mother in Putnam county is like that.
EllFlorida Jen spoke to both sides of the family. [exclusive, apparently] Annette instructed not to say anything. [Where is TEE?]
tc4c
Ever news station has different stories . This is crazy.
Everybody jump theads?
Let’s move…ANthony’s thread….FInd me there
Thanks for clarifying who Aunt K is. I saw kate had asked several times today so gave her my best guess. ~shrugging shoulders with slight grin~
,Misty told in the letter her theory i think,an she tried to let on when Tim Miller had her tested.,heck sence the beginning she has pointed towards them in MY OP.She even brought out the point on tv that Tom,an Joe had molested her.
Then she also said why did they take Haliegh,why not take me what would they want with a little girl.I could have fought them.
Letter went to Hank sr,an Chelsea.Chelsea has believed she has known who it was from the time they found the van moved,an a busted light, twigs in the headlight an scratch.She has had her suspicions all along,but knew she had better turn the letter in to LE,which was smart ,because they had already read Misty going out mail..
I dont think Timmy was involved,i think he just, believe in his mind Joe was involved,fromhim not being in bed that night. Ron has also said he would get THEM.so I think TC,an Joe are going down for this crime My OP Tom as accessery,an Joe as murderer.
Chelsea had a reporter stopped from calling her because she had a order done with Police to stop the calls.I dont think Lindsey knew when tom came home,or covered for him,unless by chance he gave the keys to Joe an went home.Who was driving his red truck,an who was driving the van is still not been told.But MC also brings up Toms red truck several times.
Tommy falied the test.Then he broke an told that Joe was involved,an about the landing.But only told when he failed the test.Did he make a deal? But Mistys hands didnt hurt Haliegh,nor did Rons thats my belief,could be wrong,who knows..
An that was where Joe use to go when he was down fishing.. Now we either have a new person who found something an called LE,or had been working with Police all along.But its said to be a tip.
Timmy may have backed up chelsies story that the van had been moved. Also Tc supposedly didnt tell Lindsey he had already took LDT,A she wanted him TC)9 TO CALL lp to set up a test.Of course we have found out watching an listening to LP that he is quite unstable,an a lover of the limelight.
I do not now,nore have i ever believed Ronald,or Misty harmed Haliegh.An i hope this search brings closure.How ever i want Haliegh to be found(what ever thay may find) in that river,but if it brings closure to grieving families i hope shes found.I just hate its this way.Truth is they may never find her its been so long,an that river runs,an is so full of much at the bottom..
This is truly sad for 2 families,but sad also for the 3 rd.A lot of hearts have been broken by gossip,an lies.So i just pray it will come to an end. We are gona here all kinds of stuff,an all kinds of gossip.Why NG even reported MC faild 4 ldt tonite.People are upset an posting what they can glean. AN SOME MAY NOT BE WORTH A HILL OF BEANS.
,Misty told in the letter her theory i think,an she tried to let on when Tim Miller had her tested.,heck sence the beginning she has pointed towards them in MY OP.She even brought out the point on tv that Tom,an Joe had molested her.
Then she also said why did they take Haliegh,why not take me what would they want with a little girl.I could have fought them.
Letter went to Hank sr,an Chelsea.Chelsea has believed she has known who it was from the time they found the van moved,an a busted light, twigs in the headlight an scratch.She has had her suspicions all along,but knew she had better turn the letter in to LE,which was smart ,because they had already read Misty going out mail..
I dont think Timmy was involved,i think he just, believe in his mind Joe was involved,fromhim not being in bed that night. Ron has also said he would get THEM.so I think TC,an Joe are going down for this crime My OP Tom as accessery,an Joe as murderer.
Chelsea had a reporter stopped from calling her because she had a order done with Police to stop the calls.I dont think Lindsey knew when tom came home,or covered for him,unless by chance he gave the keys to Joe an went home.Who was driving his red truck,an who was driving the van is still not been told.But MC also brings up Toms red truck several times.
Tommy falied the test.Then he broke an told that Joe was involved,an about the landing.But only told when he failed the test.Did he make a deal? But Mistys hands didnt hurt Haliegh,nor did Rons thats my belief,could be wrong,who knows..
An that was where Joe use to go when he was down fishing.. Now we either have a new person who found something an called LE,or had been working with Police all along.But its said to be a tip.
Timmy may have backed up chelsies story that the van had been moved. Also Tc supposedly didnt tell Lindsey he had already took LDT,A she wanted him TC)9 TO CALL lp to set up a test.Of course we have found out watching an listening to LP that he is quite unstable,an a lover of the limelight.
I do not now,nore have i ever believed Ronald,or Misty harmed Haliegh.An i hope this search brings closure.How ever i want Haliegh to be found(what ever thay may find) in that river,but if it brings closure to grieving families i hope shes found.I just hate its this way.Truth is they may never find her its been so long,an that river runs,an is so full of much at the bottom..
This is truly sad for 2 families,but sad also for the 3 rd.A lot of hearts have been broken by gossip,an lies.So i just pray it will come to an end. We are gona here all kinds of stuff,an all kinds of gossip.Why NG even reported MC faild 4 ldt.People are upset an posting what they can glean. AN SOME MAY NOT BE WORTH A HILL OF BEANS.
Been following this case since day one. What do you know of clothes found by or in the river or the woods near the river as reported on Nancy Grace tonight?
,Misty told in the letter her theory i think,an she tried to let on when Tim Miller had her tested.,heck sence the beginning she has pointed towards them in MY OP.She even brought out the point on tv that Tom,an Joe had molested her.
Then she also said why did they take Haliegh,why not take me what would they want with a little girl.I could have fought them.
Letter went to Hank sr,an Chelsea.Chelsea has believed she has known who it was from the time they found the van moved,an a busted light, twigs in the headlight an scratch.She has had her suspicions all along,but knew she had better turn the letter in to LE,which was smart ,because they had already read Misty going out mail..
I dont think Timmy was involved,i think he just, believe in his mind Joe was involved,fromhim not being in bed that night. Ron has also said he would get THEM.so I think TC,an Joe are going down for this crime My OP Tom as accessery,an Joe as murderer.
Chelsea had a reporter stopped from calling her because she had a order done with Police to stop the calls.I dont think Lindsey knew when tom came home,or covered for him,unless by chance he gave the keys to Joe an went home.Who was driving his red truck,an who was driving the van is still not been told.But MC also brings up Toms red truck several times.
Tommy falied the test.Then he broke an told that Joe was involved,an about the landing.But only told when he failed the test.Did he make a deal? But Mistys hands didnt hurt Haliegh,nor did Rons thats my belief,could be wrong,who knows..
An that was where Joe use to go when he was down fishing.. Now we either have a new person who found something an called LE,or had been working with Police all along.But its said to be a tip.
Timmy may have backed up chelsies story that the van had been moved. Also Tc supposedly didnt tell Lindsey he had already took LDT,A she wanted him TC)9 TO CALL lp to set up a test.Of course we have found out watching an listening to LP that he is quite unstable,an a lover of the limelight.
I do not now,nore have i ever believed Ronald,or Misty harmed Haliegh.An i hope this search brings closure.How ever i want Haliegh to be found(what ever thay may find) in that river,but if it brings closure to grieving families i hope shes found.I just hate its this way.Truth is they may never find her its been so long,an that river runs,an is so full of much at the bottom..
This is truly sad for 2 families,but sad also for the 3 rd.A lot of hearts have been broken by gossip,an lies.So i just pray it will come to an end. We are gona here all kinds of stuff,an all kinds of gossip.Why NG even reported MC faild 4 ldt.People are upset an posting what they can glean. AN SOME MAY NOT BE WORTH A HILL OF BEANS.
What does anyone know of clothes found in the river or on the banks of the river on in the woods near the river that may be Haleigh’s?
Hi, first time here. Is the refresh always very slow or just tonight?
Stephanie you are right you do have your own opinion. I am sorry that they are calling you that and they shouldnt we all have our opinions about this sad case. Its sad that they do anything to save their butts when this precious angel didnt do a darn thing to these people. Everyone talking highly about Ron, he made a huge mistake by allowing that clan in his life, Misty left home for the three days on a drug run then returns back he should never ever allowed his children around her to me even though he will have to live it with the rest of his life about living his children in her care he put his children in danger. If his children meant something to him he wouldnt have left them in her care and Haleigh may have never went missing or having something horrible happen to her.
I would never wish a death of a child on anyone its the worest thing to go through it cause I know what it is like but one thing I can not stand and have no respect for is people neglecting their children. Its saddens me about this whole case. Ron cant change the fact but he isnt all that innocent either. That is MY OPINION and MY OPIONON ONLY….
God have mercy on all these people that are involved souls.
I feel angry/sad/semi-relieved as most of you do. I am hoping for the real truth and for the one who took Haleigh’s life to PAY. Call me mean or whatever but this was an innocent little girl! Anyone who can do this to a child deserves to be treated like an animal and deserves to suffer!! So angry right now…
I don’t believe a word from nancy grace show..its all sensationalism..and AH quotes “souces”..anybody could say anything and be a “source”, doesn’t make it true.
Uuugh.
Timmy flunked the LDT because he knew what Joe did. Timmy told Tommy and Tommy has kept it to himself until now because it would implicate his brother in a conspiratorial fashion whether Timmy was directly involved or not.
Fact. Joe was staying at Timmy’s. Fact. Wife noticed keys to van missing or moved the next morning and someone saw a scratch on that van.
Ron’s not involved and it appears Misty isn’t either. She’s ditzy, uneducated and very young but not the monster that many has made her out to be. She said from the beginning it was Joe.
To get to the truth the entire Croslin family has been destroyed. I don’t approve of the tactics LE used. This could have been done without the mega drug charges.
Because Art quotes “sources”, doesn’t make it UNtrue… just saying!
Random,
I sure hope Ron gets out of jail asap, and assuming Misty isn’t involved, her too. Ron should be with his family through this.
OJ’s,
I’m with you re NG. She declared that LE were now calling this a homicide, but we all know they said today they had not made that decision yet. AH is also totally unreliable. He says that Crystal said that Joe did it. But LE has asked them all not to talk. So even if he did hear that, it was wrong to report it. Guy’s so desperate for a scoop he’s willing to compromise the investigation.
Something is happening though, that’s for sure. I hope we get answers soon.
Well, it looks like the poster from last night did have some info. My apologies. Now of course the question remains, was Haleigh’s body found tonight? And, what the hey took place that night to bring out such suspicious behavior on the part of so many. Who would Misty be protecting if not only herself? Why wouldn’t she just tell the truth. Only two people I can think of that she would have such an allegiance towards, her brother(s) or Ronald. Don’t think she would protect cousin Joe. Could it be she went out that night and left brother & Joe with the kids? Came back and Haleigh was gone? Hope the truth comes out soon.
I agree with you, me.
These kids need some serious rehabilitation.
The last few nights, I’ve watched the jailhouse videos of Hank Sr. visiting his kids. This is a broken man. His whole family has been destroyed by drugs and lies.
My heart breaks for all the people involved in this case. Some will get closure and for some their are too many broken pieces to put it all back together.
God have mercy on them.
So many conflicting reports.
Levi says Grandma says Joe’s house is surrounded but his mother later says different and no one has talked to Joe in 6 months. the suspect is in jail, yet Joe is not.
Misty’s attorney says Misty kind of gave them the tip but Art says Tommy led him there to the dock and said that’s where you need to look. How would Tommy know that unless he was there? Then I heard the grandmother gave the tip.
ba, i agree
Vaq… Yes, this is going in all kinds of directions, but I do think that the families KNOW!
by the way, Misty had NO involvement.. she was ‘asleep’ like she said she was.
Beautiful, They showed in my local news has the family was in the sheriffs office, and Ron was led in handcuffs no mention of him or misty out of jail. Thats all I saw thats all they reported on my local news and I live in florida. I do believe that the family does know. So many reports that it has caused my head to ache. Its all sad has they were going down big time and knowing their fate in the drug charges that now they want to make a plea deal, why wait to come clean why not. If she loved that little girl she should have came forward long time ago. A part of me believes Ron knows something to a feeling i have that i cant shake off. Its his behavior and his actions. This whole case is a tragic and very sad. No one thought about these children. Any way I have my own opionion in the matter. it will all come out soon just wished it was a long time ago so Haleigh could have the proper resting place.
Lindsy has changed her myspace page to her maiden name, “Lindsy Collins”. Interesting.
AT THIS POINT I THINK ALL DRUG CHARGES BE LET GO
AND THEY ALL GET THE CHANCE TO COME CLEAN…
THIS IS NOT MEANT IF ANY OF THEM ARE GUlLTY OF HALEGH WRONG DOING…
DOES ANYONE REALLY THINK THESE 3 WOULD EVER DO ANYTHING TO GO BACK TO JAIL..
thanks me..that is interesting.
@kbrooks46 said,
in April 13th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
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I agree, it is sad and tragic to the point of it being unbelievable. I still believe that Ron/Misty didn’t harm HaLeigh physically, themselves. I believe that he knows/knew what happened that night.
OJ’s,
It makes me think that there is a good chance Tommy is involved. She was a staunch supporter of his, so it seems something has drastically changed. Her location now says “somewhere new”. If Tommy was involved, my heart breaks for his kids…how awful for them.
Did anyone see Chad there? I didn’t see him on the video.
If Misty, Ron, Crystal, TN, MG were all there, why wouldn’t Lisa or Hank be there?
This is from the Sky 97.3 website….
News Talk 97.3 The Sky has known the identity of the tipster since Tuesday morning, but complied with the wishes of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office to refrain from exposing him out of concerns that public knowledge of his identity could compromise the investigation and possibly a case.
I sure wonder who the tipster is. The tipster is referred to as a “he”.
Random: Thank you, same thing i’m trying to get across and help give out facts that I have gotten.
L.Padilla is THE MAN!!!!
he knew about the misty letter, HE STATED THAT CHELSEA TOLD HIM SHE GOT A LETTER FROM MISTY AND TOLD LP WHAT IT SAID. Well, we know LP, and he let it out! Princess Chelsea tried to deny it, said Misty never sent her “any letter, and Misty never mentioned anything to her about Joe in the MH, or Tommy.
Of course, then as we all know, it came out in the news that 2 letters were sent out by Misty, but TO WHO?? Then, we find out, it was INDEED CHELSEA. who’s the CRAZY ONE NOW??
Tommy confessed, but if he was to confess the entire contents of the crime, he also had to expose Timmy’s involvement. Ad Nauseam, NOW, GEE, THE MAGICAL VAN IS BEING MENTIONED??HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! gosh, Chelsea and Timmy, so innocent, huh??? Lindsey also knew ALL ALONG.
IT ALL MAKES SENSE: remember, I posted a long time ago, that phone records revealed that MISTY MADE A PHONE CALL TO TIMMY BEFORE RON GOT HOME FROM WORK…MAKIN’SENSE NOW???
Tommy’s impulsive confession of stopping by the MH and knocking and no one was home???
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and we never heard anything about what Ron thought about that, right? That’s cuz it never happened. TOMMY was simply trying to “place” himself AT THE SCENE IN CASE NEIGHBORS SAW HIM. Good try, Timmy, but it was too blatant.
Umm, Joe fleeing the next morning? Of course, after diligently handing out posters of Haleigh. So nice, huh? Gee, if he cared so much, why did he leave??? Tommy sold his truck to Joe, Misty had stated…she was trying to DESPERATLEY HINT TO POLICE that the Haleigh sighting could have been true.
Delete my first post from 11:30, I meant to say Good try, Tommy.
maryd said,
in April 13th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
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I’m thinking because they are not directly related to HaLeigh, and LE doesn’t have to keep them informed of anything concerning this case, even tho they are Misty’s parents.
interesting theory ronfan but thats all it is..theory and conjecture..not FACT!
beautiful adams/cent, “Aunt K is Ron’s Aunt, Katrina,” that makes sense, thanks. The Katrina who had Misty’s stuff in the back of her car, or something like that… Is that Ron’s father’s, Lester’s, sister, or Theresa Neves, sister, anyone know? Not that it matters. Just trying to keep it all in place.
Anymore news on what it was they pulled out of the water today?
kbrooks46 thank you very much.
I totally agree with you.
Kate…. Teresa’s sister, Hopes Sykes’s mother. You’re welcomed!
If Lindsay has changed her name to her maiden name, that says a lot. I read someplace that Chelsea came back to FL with her kids from MA and everyone was wondering how she could afford plane tickets for herself and the kids. They were also wondering what she was doing back in FL.
Apparently after Tommy failed the ldt he broke down and told that he couldn’t keep the secret anymore. It seems he implicated his brother Timmy and cousin Joe.
However, I also read (someplace) that a blogger had stated online that his or her father had figured out where Haleigh was and had notified the police yesterday (Monday) and that someone was going to be arrested today (Tuesday).
So guess we won’t know the real story until LE decided to release the information.
I do remember Misty telling Chelsea that two family members were involved, one that they cared about a lot, the other not so much. She said “just use your head, Chelsea, and you’ll figure out who it is.” Sounds to me like she was trying to tell her it was Timmy and Joe. Just my opinion.
I read that Misty’s father Hank was also at the LE today.
where did you read that, philly?
philly: WRONG!! your memory is way off..misty never said anything about “two family members”!!
Try seperating fact from fiction.
Whew so much to read this is going to take a while Any new news past NG show?
OJ’s Glove WRONG, try getting facts before jumping someones azz. In a jail audio/vide, Misty most certainly did say exactly that. It would hurt two people if she talked, one they care about, the other not so much.
Misty never said “two family members.”
cathartic & OJ are right. She never said “family members”.
cathartic,
Any theories re what is going on? Part of me is worried this might be another wild goose chase like the Mondex was.
OT…hope the fleas are gone and kitty is still doing well?
**off topic**
My good friend swears by this electronic flea comb, by epilady! I’ve never used it on my cat, but she claims it’s worth it.
I’m itching, but not likely from fleas 🙂
My theories haven’t changed much. I’m not too sure about JO involvement but he was on my list from the beginning and still is…just not convinced yet he did what they are saying.
I do now believe it is possible they were at the MH and possibly drugged Misty–maybe the date rape drug–which would knock her out for a while but still allow her to be somewhat lucid later (911 call).
The reason I don’t believe the JO stuff being said now is I can’t see them being too afraid of him to talk. M was out with JO the next morning putting up flyers, no? Who does that alongside a person that had just hours before frightened them into silence?
If JO was involved, the others were not innocent bystanders too frightened to move, imo.
As always, things aren’t adding up for me.
Cathartic, I don’t buy it. Also the vid with his mother, to me says a lot!
I am guessing that Tommy is involved, based on the fact Lindsy has changed her surname…but that’s far from proven at this point.
I’ve always suspected Joe too…but it doesn’t seem he’s been arrested.
I’m wondering if Timmy fits into it all somewhere. Do we know if he has a myspace?
But part of me still wonders if they are on a wild goose chase at the moment.
And Field’s statement was interesting. He seems to be conveying the message that Misty had nothing to do with it and that LE knows that. I guess we’ll know more by tomorrow.
A tweet says that a GM of HaLeigh’s will be on the Today Show this morning… but doesn’t say which Granny.
Yep, BA, I saw the JO mom vid. Which brings me to my big question: If JO is involved in the way they are saying, why has he not been arrested? They can arrest someone on suspicion, for interrogation, and hold them 24 hours, I believe, w/o reason. After that they have to charge them or let them go.
But they have not picked JO up. And his mom said they never even as much as called him on the phone.
What I still am bugged about is RC’s behavior right after Haleigh went missing.
If Misty, Tommy, Timmy, JO, or anyone he/they knew was involved, I believe he would have found out about it…and they would be dead, imo.
So…can’t figure out RC. I know he did nothing to Haleigh…or am sure he didn’t. Can’t say I know, because I don’t, but instinct says he did not kill Haleigh.
Could have been accident, and Misty had 2 or 3 helpers. If it was OD, could have been Ron’s pills.
JMO.
Cathartic, a lot of unanswered questions, all the way around. Ron’s behavior is/was very bizarre… are we really to believe that Misty fooled him this long? I’m not sure who rolled on who, or if there was a roll between them. I just don’t think Joe was involved, tho.
me,
That’s typical defense attorney talk.
IDK, I am just as confused now as I ever was. Except for the fact that I am pretty sure TC was involved somehow, given LC has changed back to her maiden name.
Have you read the article at St. Augustine .com?
I guess I have to lean more toward Misty is guilty of something, maybe she slapped Haleigh not meaning to cause harm, but caused it anyway. Then had to call for help.
It’s the simplest theory, and doesn’t leave a lot of unanswered questions. She could have told Ron Haleigh ate his pills…he would have no way to disprove it.
Any other scenario leaves me wondering how he didn’t find out and go after any and all that were involved.
Nope BA…my computer was so slow today I could barely open a page anywhere I went. I will look for the article now, brb.
okay
So…were you thinking of Misty being spotted in the area? From the article?
I don’t know if I believe it, but thought it was interesting that it was reported to deputies, but when?
It didn’t say when, did it? Hmmmmmmm.
For all anyone knows it could very well be something that was said in the area. And could be rumor. You know how neighbors like to gossip…to the point of inventing a story just to have something juicy to pass on.
I guess I would have to hear/see a person testify to it before I would take it as real.
Nope it didn’t! I’ve got to admit that I’m thinking the road rage/shell harbor/search… can’t be a coincidence.
We never have seen Tommy’s drug vid. We saw everyone else, but not his. Wonder if that means anything.
BA…what’s your take on the headless rat in the mailbox?
Yeah.. don’t know about that one, either.
I believe that one. Now, I’m not so sure why it was put there. But I would like to hear what Lindsy said about it. I do think all those incidents occurred… the rat-gate, Hank getting “killer” pills from Ron, Misty instigating the fight between Ron/Tommy.
Cathartic my 4:28 was for your… Tommy’s drug vid.
I also cannot understand RC insisting JO was not at the MH that night. He couldn’t know who was and was not there…so why so insistent that JO wasn’t there? I don’t get the reasoning for that. Even when Misty said he was, RC said no, he wasn’t.
Just too weird. Too much of what RC said/did/didn’t say/didn’t do, just makes my head spin.
Added with Misty yes, pointing the finger sorta at Joe in the beginning, then on TV saying that the other side of the family needed to be looked at.
I definitely believe the headless rat thing. And it wasn’t to test Misty’s ability to lie. It is well known what it means, and I think that’s exactly what it did mean.
I don’t know if I believe the story about Misty being seen putting something in the trash at Shell Harbor…I had never heard that before and it seems to “convenient” to hear it now.
IMO.
There’s a new story!
me….where?
Cathartic… firstcoast has a new article on Joe being interviewed.
Can’t imagine being 5 and having a face like that staring at me.
Just sayin’
Beady-eyed!
First Coast news is saying the Joe Overstreet was interviewed last night around 11:30pm and released.
Art has a story up! Sad if true!
Steve Brown on news4jax
It is sad that WS bloggers in the begining kept mentioning Shell Harbor and that it was a possible location of intrest, because it was the closet boat dock aside from Hermits Cove.
At the time WSer’s where aware that JS had a boat or access to a boat. The thought at that time was that after Haleigh was removed from the Cummings home was passed of to someone on a boat at the dock in Hermits Cove.
Cathartic & BA – I feel exactly as you do. I can’t let go of Ron’s strange behavior. I did not remember him talking about Joe not being there. As much as I have blamed Hank & Lisa for their poor parenting – I actually feel sorry for them. Imagine having all of your kids somehow implicated in a murder of a child. How do you recover from that?
The reason why I believe that Ron isnt so innocent. Maybe they were all scared of Ron. Look at the headless rat in the mail box, the road rage, Ron’s own behavior sets it for itself. Then put his daughter past tense then a tatoo of his daughter. How would he have known that his daughter wasnt going to come back? MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM… I believe he knew thats why he married Misty and stayed closed with her.
I just saw on my news cnn that they were searching in the river they have evidence that leads them there and that Misty opened up to mention something to the LE. I read in one of the news that they talked with Joe Overstreet and his lawyer last night and Joe was sent home.
Its all coming out they all pointing fingers it all doesnt make no sense at all.. But someone talked cause of the length of prision time that they will face do to the drug charges.
JillF, I don’t know how any of them will/can! A very difficult road ahead of them, ALL. Chloe’s 2nd Birthday on the 15th, Jr. not having his big sister… heartbreaking!
Beautiful,
I agree very difficult road ahead for them. I feel bad for the children more then anyone else. Its very sad.
I cant understand for the life of me, how so many ppl cud just take what Tommy says verbatim.. Like it is the long awaited truth????????????
He is a known liar.. He is te one who has been inconsistent..
He is the one who placed himself at the crime scene where he said there was no movement in the house at 10 pm (which actually corroborates what Misty has said all along)…
Now he has led LE to where it is alleged physical evidence has been found….
If this is accurate, this means that not only has he placed himself at the crimsescene but also at haleighs horrible grave…
If it is true that he was threatened by Joe with a gun, why wud he have been in the woods at the river?
Why wud Misty have gone on live media outlets over and over again sharing her suspicions of Joe and Tommy ?????
Why wud she have been at her grammas in Ten in the following Oct only blocks away from Joe?
Why wud she have not told this story to LE when we saw how uncontollable and hysterical she was upon being arrested ??
Why does Tommy have all the answers?????
It seems like it is what is is… If they find Haleigh’s remains where Tommy has led them….
If it walks like a duct ……….
Most of the media has been an iresponsible facilitator in jumping way too quick, and being led with many fales allegations against about a young girl, where the general public has been (way too easily ) sold …
We are doing the same thing again with the latest story…
I ask… why take Tommys word at face value???
He is a lying criminal… and has proven this by his admittd inconsistencies…
Misty has been consistent from the start yet, the media still wants to use her as the villainess …so much that the likes of NG ( an apparant horrible armchair detective) cant even call this latest info right?????????
I dont get it……
Looks like Mrs Lindsay Croslin who appears to have gone bak to her maiden name and fled.. Looks like she is smarter than was given credit for…yet seems protective of Misty….
Sure glad to hear that Lindsay and her babies left town. She is too good for what she has had to endure. God bless her heart for getting away with those little ones. Hopefully, she won’t look back. Her babies deserve a better life. She does, too.
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