This in from TJ Hart – Jan Barrett
Not long after the arrests of Ronald Cummings–the father of missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings of Satsuma, FL, his ex-wife/babysitter Misty Croslin–the last person to see the child, and three others in a Putnam County drug sting, the interviews started rolling…again.
In an exclusive interview by phone from Ronald’s Flagler County jail cell, Jacksonville.com’s Dana Treen spoke with Cummings about his arrest and incarcertion:
“From his one-man cell at the Flagler County jail Sunday, Ronald Cummings said he hasn’t been questioned yet about the disappearance of his daughter, Haleigh, but said her still open case made him a target.
“They told me their main focus is not putting me in jail, it was finding Haleigh,†Cummings said in a phone call to a Times-Union reporter.
Meanwhile, authorities have made no secret that Cummings, Croslin and others arrested in the undercover drug operation will be asked about Haleigh. Investigators have said the two cases are not connected. Detectives working on the disappearance were kept in the dark about the drug case that evolved from a tip, authorities said after the arrests.
“I’m going to prison,†he said. He said he had no idea how long any sentence might be. When Cummings was arrested, a Sheriff’s Office spokesman said convictions on all the charges could mean 43 years in prison.
“This is a setback in my life,†Cummings said.”
In an interview Monday morning with NBC’s “Today,â€Â Haleigh Cummings’ paternal grandmother said she suspects former daughter-in-law Misty Croslin is the key to finding the little girl.
“I believe, whether or not she realizes it, Misty is holding something that could possibly help Haleigh’s case,†Teresa Neves told NBC’s Ann Curry. “All the law enforcement have said she is the key to this. You have to figure that there’s something that she’s not telling.â€
Neves said she didn’t know if Croslin is withholding information on purpose or subconsciously.
The main focus on “Today†was Haleigh, who has been missing nearly a year. Grandmother Neves said she didn’t believe Croslin had done anything to hurt the 5-year-old girl.
TJ Hart
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackTJ & Jan, great update, thank you both for staying on top of this case and caring for little Haleigh.
You can clearly see Teresa is feeling so much anguish. I am praying for her.
I wonder what Ron was thinking. He was not a target due to Haleighs case being open. He was selling and purchasing drugs. He has three counts. He was a target of a legal sting operation in which he participated in and got caught. This had nothing to do with Haleighs missing case just an oppertunity to be questioned about it.
link to the Today Show story and interview with TN:
It’s the story in the box on the left with Haleigh’s photo.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com
Jail time is not Ron’s “major set back.” The fact that his daughter may be deceased is his major set back. He is no different than Casey Anthony, who knowing her daughter was gone spent her time in bars, only he spent his time in a strip club(s). Come on people. This child was neglected, and everyone’s drug use in this case (including Ron) is the reason this beautiful child may be gone forever.
Kat, I could not agree more!!!!
Thanks for the update TJ.
Thanks for the update. Watching the today show, poor TN, this has taken a toll on her.Shes in so much pain. IDk what to think anymore.
KAT-
I couldn’t agree more and TN knew he was a dealer and a user and still let her grandkids stay with him instead. They are all culpable to some degree in whatever happened to Haleigh that night.If you recall when Tim Miller talked about the life HaLeigh and JR had with “them hillbillies”, he was indignant that Ron and Misty were either leaving them home alone to go score drugs or taking them with them to get drugs and no child should live that way. TN just hated Crystal so bad because she left her precious son in charge of keeping her grandkids, and from being in a safer home where most likely Haleigh would have never met the fate she did that night.
KAT-
I couldn’t agree more and TN knew he was a dealer and a user and still let her grandkids stay with him instead. They are all culpable to some degree in whatever happened to Haleigh that night.If you recall when Tim Miller talked about the life HaLeigh and JR had with “them hillbillies”, he was indignant that Ron and Misty were either leaving them home alone to go score drugs or taking them with them to get drugs and no child should live that way. TN just hated Crystal so bad because she left her precious son in charge of keeping her grandkids, and from being in a safer home where most likely Haleigh would have never met the fate she did that night.
Poor Teresa. Her bloved granddaughter has been missing for a year, her beloved son is facing years and years and years in prison and her grandson has gone to live with his mother. I wonder if she and Annette will want weekend visitations with little Jr, and if they do want some visitation, will Crystal allow it? And Lindsey, however will she cope with her husband in jail with two children to raise, and the parents of her husband living with her as well. Wonder how long that arrangement will last with Tommy in jail.
And more arrests are expected. I wonder who it will be.
Misty looks terrible in the pictures from the jail. What a direction for your life to take at the tender age of 18.
I really feel sorry for Teresa – she lost her grand-daughter and her grandson, who has known only her as a primary grandmother – mother serogate, is now in the custody of his mother. Teresa will rarely – if ever – get to see him again – poor kid… And her stupid *ss son gets his butt locked up in jail for G*d only knows how long…
What a real loss for Teresa, her grand-daughter, grandson and son all in one year.
DramaQueen, your compassion for Teresa N is refreshing. I am so thankful I have never had to go through anything like what she has had to face this past year.
Kat, Ron being in strip joints and having a stripper girl friend was just rumor.
Just1, to say that TN knew Ron was dealing drugs is not necessarily true. He is a grown man and obviously wasn’t dealing from his residence so she would have no way of knowing. jmo
Sara Jane, I guess we were typing at the same time but yes it is a tremendous loss for the grandma’s but also huge for little Jr. He has been with Teresa N and/or Ggm Sykes his entire life, visiting his mom 2 week ends a month. I am sure he loves his mom but the bulk of his time has not been with her. At the very least these grandmas should have him on the week ends, for his well being. He is too young to understand what is going on but he absolutely feels the loss. His sister, his dad and now his 2 primary care givers his grandmothers all taken from him. Tragic! jmo
Dear Treece – I never said that Teresa knew about Ron’s drug dealings. That was another posters take off of what I said. I said before on another post, on a past day, that I feel bad for Teresa Neves. She seems like a good person who is just caught up in the middle of all of this. I’ve seen her on Nancy Grace interviews and she really seems like a genuinely good person. Regarding whether or not Ron was in a strip club or not and it being a rumor, is irrelevant. Possibly I should not have even mentioned it, but Ron was obviously not doing the things he should be doing or he would not have been busted for dealing drugs. I was mainly frustrated with Ron’s comments about his jail time being a major set back when all in all his major set back was the loss of his daughter Haleigh.
Justone – I do agree with you on the fact that both children should have been with Crystal.
Ron says this is a setback in his life ….. because his life was on such a great path before this happened? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Ron’s comments make me angry! “This is a setback in my life”…HUH? Losing your child was a setback? And him saying the reason he was arrested was because of Haleigh! OMG, it is like he is blaming his child for his arrest! HOW ABOUT SOME ACCOUNTABILITY RONNY BOY! YOU ARE A MAJOR LOSER AND YOU ARE THE REASON YOUR DAUGHTER IS MISSING! IT IS YOUR LIFESTYLE, THE PEOPLE YOU ALLOWED AROUND YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR OBVIOUS DRUG PROBLEMS THAT CAUSED ALL OF THIS. So you AREN’T in jail because of the Haleigh investigation. You ARE in jail because ONCE again you committed a crime. I hope they lock these freaks up and throw away the key. I think these people have fried every last brain cell they had. Ron is where he belongs along with the rest of the low lifes and I don’t care if ANY of them ever see daylight again! Now Misty needs to come clean with what she knows! If she doesn’t, throw her into general population for a little while! I’m So flippin’ sick of these creeps acting like the world owes them something. GET A REAL JOB, STOP DOING DRUGS, STOP LIVING OFF YOUR MISSING CHILD YOU ANTHONY WANNA-BE’S, CLEAN UP YOUR ACT AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ALMIGHTY, TELL US WHERE HALEIGH IS! These people are going to give me a dang stroke!
If Ron stays in jail, the grandmothers should have time with Jr. If Ron gets out, I don’t believe they can keep Jr. safe. I think Ron should not be allowed to be alone with Jr, anymore. Just think of the danger he was put in during that incident between Ron and the other man trying to run each other off the road. We have just seen too much violence surrounding Ron.
Ron seems to be certain he is going to prison, this time. I wonder why, since he says he was innocent? He calls this a setback in his life. Yeah, a possible 43 yr setback. He says he didn’t have anything to do with Misty’s tattoo. I am sure she did that on her own, NOT!!!
Ron should be so ashamed of the grief he has caused his mother. Will she even make it thru all of this? Maybe she will, if we all pray for her.
LE needs to take this interview in and read it to Misty, and say Look how loyal he is being to you. They might get her to talk more.
The Canuck – EXACTLY! What was going so well in his life that he could even have a setback!? Once you hit bottom I’m not sure there is anywhere to go but up! Amazing how losing his child wasn’t a setback but THIS is! Shows he has NO remorse for selling drugs or any of his actions….just that he got caught! He should be repenting for all his crimes…instead he says the only reason he was busted was so investigators could question him about Haleigh! The world was in bad enough shape with only ONE Casey Anthony without Ron turning into Casey Junior! Casey and Ron would make a great pair! Casey could swing on the stripper pole and Ron could watch….they could compare notes on how to lose your child and blame everyone else on the planet for it happening! UGH! These people make me SICK!
u know seeing T.Neves on NBC made me feel so sad 4 her.Ron gone 2 Jail Jr. gone w/mommy,and poor Haleigh stiLL missing.The poor wmans world has crumbled around her.
TO U MS.NEVES
2 things 4 sure and 1 thing 4 certain:IT’S ALWAYS DARKEST B4 DAWN,AND GOD KNOWS HOW MUCH WE CAN BARE.THANK GOD NUTHIN LAST 4EVER,EVEN PAIN.ONE MORE THING WE R JUST LIKE FLOWERS,AS THEY NEED SUNSHINE AND RAIN 2 GROW SO DO WE.IF IT WAS ALWAYS SUNSHINE NUTHIN & NOBODY WOULD GROW.
MS.NEVES HOLD ON N HOLD OUT,NO MATTER WHAT,GOD IS JUST,UR TEARS R NOT SHED INVAIN!!!!
Calm down, JB, calm down. At least there are five more drug dealers off the streets and Ron’s streak of extreme good furtune when it comes to not paying the piper has finally come to an end. Believe me, he will learn all kinds of accountability over the next several years in jail. When he comes out he’ll be so old and wrinkled no woman will give him a second glance. As far as the job thing goes, with unemployment as bad as it is and especially in hard hit Florida, none of these people with their lack of education really stand a chance of finding one, IMO. Maybe they will use their time in prison to further their education. We can only hope.
After they have all had time to sit and stew for a good long while, my gut tells me that we’ll find out where Haleigh is. And that’s when, I am really afraid, all the fireworks will begin.
One thing we know for asure right now, is that they are sitting tight, not able to run their little scams, or fill the streets with drugs, or play their little road rage games (they had kids with them that night, too, wonder if drugs were involved in that little game?)
JB:
Tell us what you really think. LOL I liked what you said about these people were going to give you a dang stroke. I literally laughed out loud. I know the feeling,but we keep coming back for more. Don’t we? Don’t aask me why.
DramaQueen – I know…I shouldn’t let these people get to me but I’m just SO sick of their irresponsibility. I AM glad they are off the street and where they belong. I’m sorry for the grandmother but she had to know what was going on and she allowed her grandchildren to be in harm’s way. I’m not saying all of this is her fault at all but I’m not sure any of this bunch is without some blame. I just don’t know why these people have children!? All they want to do is party, do drugs, steal, and endanger everyone around them…ESPECIALLY their children! I’m glad Junior is with his Mama. I pray she can give him some stability, security and love in this mixed up, messed up, 300 ring circus (three rings can’t possibly do this mess justice)!
Pinkey, very kind words. Ditto!!!
Karen Cox…LOL….I guess we keep coming back because we hope and pray that one day, just maybe, we’ll get some GOOD news and Haleigh will be found safe and sound. I keep hoping there will be a break in the case and the person responsible will meet justice face to face. But, yeah, I about have a mini stroke every time I read an update because it is always more freakazoid road rage headless rat stolen check tatooing drug infested redneck fist fight sex party can’t keep my story straight got my purse stolen trying to buy drugs I’m so upset about Haleigh being missing I think I’ll go hang out at the amusement parks and beach bunch of BS and NEVER any news about this little angel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If the stroke doesn’t get me a bleeding ulcer certainly will! LOL
I don’t believe it was Crystal’s choice for the children to be cared for by Ron ,his exwife or Ron’s Mom and/or grandmother.I believe she did try to obtain custody,but of course that couldn’t be.I do believe a lot of people said the reason she was denied custody was because,she took drugs.Well I’m most happy to hear she did in fact pass the court ordered drug test.There was no way she could have passed, if she was still into drugs:if infact she ever was. I don’t know,but I pray for her .
Listening – I don’t think you will ever convince me that Crystal has NEVER done drugs BUT I am happy that she passed the drug test. That is a great first step and a good start to becoming a good mom to Junior. I do pray for her and Junior and hope they can pull their lives together despite the drug dealing redneck rodeo going on around them!
Ron was also quoted as saying
“They told me their main focus is not putting me in jail, it was finding Haleigh,”
Ok Ron and what has your focus been lately? I dont understand why these people feel the need to speak to the press. They make themselves look more foolish with every word out of their mouths.
The Canuck – You got that right! As if their actions don’t speak volumes they have to open their big fat mouths and not only insert their foot but their whole dang leg! They should have learned to keep their traps shut a long time ago because not ONE intelligent word has ever been uttered by this lot of low lifes! Face it Ronny Boy…you are going to prison and I hope your cellmate Big Boy Bubba shows you a REAL good time!
I feel very badly for Teresa, she’s in my prayers. I don’t think Ron will be going to prison.
Ya’ know – ”they” – the detectives – keep suggesting that Misty is not revealing everything she knows… what do they think? That the letter released earlier – Haliegh OD on
drugs – was the truth or a glimps of it? With Misty having an Attny – there is no way he is going to allow her to talk without his presence – and there is no way he is going to allow her to reveal such a truth – if it is so… To what end?
UPDATE: from Orlando Sentinel
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/01/haleigh-cummings-grandmother-to-today-misty-is-the-key-to-this.html
Orlando Sentinel Orlando, Fl
1-25-10 8:32 a.m. EST
“Haleigh Cummings grandmother to ‘Today’:
Misty is the key to this”
UPDATE: Video Clip from the Today Show
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891#35056927
MSNBC Today Show 1-25-10
“Haleigh Cummings – Interview with Teresa Neves”
listening, I too would be thrilled if Crystal passed a drug test. I haven’t been able to find any verification that test took place. Can you tell me where you found that info? Thanks, Treece
Does anyone know where Ron’s sister is? She was around alot when Haleigh first went missing and, now, we don’t hear from her. She could be such a comfort to her mom, at thie time.
curious said,in January 25th, 2010 at 3:58 pm I feel very badly for Teresa, she’s in my prayers. I don’t think Ron will be going to prison
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I agree with you. Something to fishy about his interview imo.
Ronlad’s mother has not done anything to deserve this. One year ago a monster entered her son’s home and stole her grand daughter causing a domino’s affect that completely shattered her whole world. I would think a person at some point would blame things on someone just to survive the trauma. Wishful thinking has me thinking “white boy greg” is on the list to be arrested but common sense tells me it is more likely Misty’s parents. The way I see it the choice to remove someones life that /he/she would experience when free is a huge choice with accountability and responsibility, there is no giving back what is taken. To do so with out fact and proof in of itself is an act of violence on that persons human life. In every 12 is at least one of me that one that worries about “what if” she is innocent. who has seen LE corruption tunnel vision and the impacts of it. I want Justice for Haleigh but not at the expense of another human life. I don’t think she had anything to do with hurting this child. IMHO Misty has a lot to face regarding her her family for what they are, what they have done to her. She can’t be any more honest and revealing to the LE than she is to her self. She is not facing an easy road but she is showing signs of going down down it I would give this time and have her completely separated from these people, then lets see what comes to light
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
JB:
Justice may have come about to the players in Haleigh’s disappearance in a different way than we expected. They may get more time for this than for Haleigh’s death.
It does seem odd that Ron is saying, “I know I’m going to prison”, but judging from TN’s reaction, she thinks he is. I don’t think she has any hope of getting Jr. back or keeping Ron out of prison.
Ron is always swaggering around with that you can’t get me kind of attitude. This time it is different. Maybe, he has already made a deal by giving some kind of information, and he already knows what kind of time he will get.
LE said they don’t make deals, but I don’t believe that. They may phrase it differently, but we know they make deals.
Treece:
I imagine they did have her take a drug test, so they could be sure Jr. would be O.K. I hope so.
Whoa Karon that’s a sobering thought.
Curious, Ron WILL spend SOME time in jail for all those charges, no way is he gonna walk away scott free, nope, not this time.
Treece, Art reported about the pop quiz drug test Crystal took and passed with flying colors, no way she could have faked her way thru one, not under these circumstances, she wouldn’t have had enough time. So I am betting she has been clean for quite some time now.
Poor Teresa. She is such an honest, moral Christian woman that it hardly seems fair that she and her family would be cursed with a son like Ronald.
Bless her heart.
I cannot imagine how she and Cindy Anthony must feel every time they think of the children they raised.
LFlorida-LMAO. What a perfect comparison
DramaQueen, I hope Art is accurate about this drug test, thanks for letting me know where the info came from.
LFlorida, perhaps it wasn’t that Teresa was cursed by having a son like Ronald, perhaps Ronad was blessed to have a mother like Teresa, imagine how mush worse things could be if he hadn’t had her his whole life. It’s all a matter of prespective.
As far as Cindy and George are concerned, well I will refrain from commenting on their relationship with their daughter.
LFlorida, to me they are nothing alike.
Teresa N is on the angelic side.
Cindy is on the devilish side.
And Casey’s balls are much larger than Ron’s so I don’t see them as anything alike.
Hi, DramaQueen!
I just asked on the other thread if anyone had seen an official report of the custody hearing (as in from an objective person who was actually there). Has anyone seen that?
All due respect to AH, I don’t trust his sources and he wasn’t there. So I feel like all I really know about the hearing is the ruling.
But I addressed this to you DramaQueen because you brought something up that has been on my mind for a few days. You said there wasn’t time for her to get clean of drugs so fast.
Well, let’s put drugs aside for now. Ron is arrested and in less than 24 hours there is an emergency hearing and the Sheffields are (according to what I’ve heard – not sure it’s all true) prepared to the teeth with a lawyer, supposed “proof” of R’s transgressions, supposed clean drug test for Crystal, a DCF worker who never heard about Crystal giving birth to Chloe with drugs in her system etc.
That’s pretty prepared for such short notice.
I’ve been wondering if the Sheffields had a little heads up on what was going down. It would not surprise me.
Hi, Treece! ROFLMAO! @ your 5:03!
And I agree!
Ron is in jail right now Drama Queen, I was posting about prison.
@m2c, you got a point there, they may have let Crystal know ahead of time so she could move quickly, but it still would not have been enough time to cleanse her system of drugs.
Curious, you don’t think he’ll go to prison? Why not? What do you think will happen?
treece, I couldn’t get the quote thing to work, sorry.
I still feel terrible for both Teresa and Cindy. I mean, that would just have to kill you inside. God blesses and entrusts these children to us to:
1) Keep them safe
2) Teach them right and wrong.
I would be upset, but that’s just me.
We’re kind of hoping and imagining a lot of things about Jr’s present and future and unfortuately a lot of it depends on whether DCFS does an even better job than is their minimum requirement.
I have no faith that they will for a number of reasons. One is that I am sure there are children in much worse homes and who are horribly neglected and physically abused and would need DCFS attention. Also I have heard too too many REAL stories of DCFS NOT doing their job and the children end up dead. Many many in my area alone.
So hoping for the best is about all we can do -UNLESS the court ordered random drug testing for Crystal. And I have not heard about that.
Hi, Treece! ROFLMAO! @ your 5:03!
And I agree too!!!!!!!!!!
DQ … what a wonderful thing to say about Ronald and his mom re: that HE is the one that is blessed. It is so true but as humans we tend to look at the negative (ie: that she is cursed). You always put a great spin on things.
all right peeps gotta run everyone have a good evening see yall tomorrow
DramaQueen – that’s why I set aside the issue of drugs in my last post. Although some drugs that have been described on this board do go out of your system in 24 – 48 hours.
Anyway, I am still curious about that for a different reason. One person said that DCFS at court said they’d never had a report about Crystal giving birth to Chloe with drugs in her system. If that’s so, then why would Crystal be given a drug test at the hearing at all?
I’m very confused about what REALLY happened at that custody hearing – and why.
Pinkey @ 3:28 – That’s a beautiful message to TN. I hope she sees it!
Hi, 5o’clock, M2c and LFLorida, glad we could all have a little laugh, together.
Pinkey, I too think that is such a sweet and true message to Teresa N, thank you. May God bless and comfort her.
Mike Galanos, Prime Time (HLN) is covering the Haleigh Cummings Case right now. Guests are Natisha Lance (Nancy Grace Show) and Mike Brooks.
If you are interested, Mike usually has a repeat of what was covered in the first hour
(4 p.m. CST). So you should be able to see it in the second hour (5 p.m. CST).
m2c, I believe that this is such a high profile case. I do not believe that the judge or DCF would allow Crystal to regain custody of Jr without one. All we have heard since this case began was how these children were in drug enviroments. Allegations on both the parents. Well Rons became apparent and is now facing prison time along with the step- mom to Haleigh and Jr. I believe they could not risk not giving her one and something happen. The blame would be on the Judge and DCF for not doing so before handing over the child to his mother.
Ok if no one respects or believes Art….WHat about TJ? It was in his report on the custody hearing. Crystal took a drug test at the courthouse. Go read it!
SOmething NO ONE is talking about….if Ron had those pills in his possesion (Who would trust Misty with them?) and he lives in Welatka at GGMA’s house then those pills were there with him prior to being sold. IF that is true then it MIGHT be that she didn’t know anything or it MIGHT be that she has known everything. I have known some “upstanding CHristians” to deal right out their home. They’d have character witnesses galore to claim they weren’t like that. I know of 2 manadated reporters right now who lie for a person. That problem is the actual catching of said persons.
I still think it would break any mother’s heart. jmo.
LFlordia, I agree Teresa looks like she is dying inside.
LFlordia, you live reasonably close and know some cousins or something of these players. Do you have any info. on Ronald L. Cummings, Sr’s father? Does he live close by, is he involved in Ronald’s life at all? How come we know every other players intimate life stories but nothing about him?
WELL BET NANCY GRACE GETS A GOOD CRY OVER HER RON BEING IN JAIL,,,,SHE SURE STUCK UP FOR HIM I SAY THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN THE SAME JAIL CELL! TN IS ON THE DRUGS TOO I BET! SHE SURE STICKS UP FOR THEM,,, YEP THAT BUNCH SHOULD ROT IN THE JAIL EXCEPT LITTLE JR AND THE REAL MOM,,,,,,,
For anyone wanting to know about Cobra’s case:
A new article just posted! per TJ Hart
I wonder where Ron was hiding the drugs they were selling? At his place of residence I would assume.hmmm You dont think he is gonna let Misty or Tommy hold the drugs do you? And that is why they did searches of the properties
I wonder when we will find out if they found anything there? Could this be why they removed Junior? And the custody hearing was pretty fast was it because they found things at GGM Sykes? And while I feel sorry for TN she raised this POS and all through this she has stood by him and this is how he repays her. He evidently does not place her high on his priority list. She has a lot to suffer and I do feel sorry for her. She needs to seek councling and forgive herself for what has happened. I do not believe Ron has any respect for any woman. jmo
And if you look back at the harassment tapes from CJones they stated that all of Satsuma know that you know where you daughter is. I believe alot of people in Satsuma also knew Ron was dealing but didnt say anything because they were buyers. jmo
So sad to read all the victim bashing on this thread. Were you all so judgmental when after Tim Miller’s daughters disappearance he was using cocaine and abusing alcohol, and stalking a man? He had to be hospitalized he was so out of control, yet you all think he’s a saint. I really don’t get why no one will cut Ron any slack and think it’s sad. Seems too many here are holier than thou and so certain of just how perfectly they’d handle the situation if they found themselves in it. Very sad.
I feel awful for Ronald…if he was involved in the drug trafficking, that was pretty stupid, but when people suffer that sort of horrendous loss it is not surprising they do stupid things after, like Tim Miller did with cocaine and his other vices.
Also, I don’t believe Crystal passed an “on the spot” drug test. Never heard of one that could be tested that quickly, and I doubt it happened. If she was so addicted to crack (or whatever it was) that she couldn’t even give it up when pregnant, you really have to suspect she’s still using. For Jr’s sake, I sure hope she isn’t, but in all likelihood, she will need some long term professional rehab to beat drugs if she was so addicted she didn’t care enough for Chloe to not use while pregnant.
me said, I so agree with you. It is surprising to me that even Tim M doesn’t have any compassion for Ron. Even more shocking to me is that so many are judging Teresa N. TO me she is one of the biggest victims here. I know she has a broken heart.
Been reading everyones post. I feel for any mother that goes thru for both these grandmothers and Haleighs and Jrs mother and dad too. Now theres been drug arest and this is good that these peeps got caught but to me in the sence there still not been a arest of WHO took this precious little girl. This is what I am waiting on.IF Crystal didnt pass drug test now she has 2 kids at home with her and one missing. I am just trying to make a point here. What a mess this is.I try not to point any fingers till this whole truth comes out. SO Wheres Haleigh?
Me said you really need to go back and do some research into facts and not listen to other bloggers rants about what they think Crystal was taking and why Chloe had drugs in her system. I found out that Crystal was in a car accident while she was pregnant and it was bad enough that her doctor prescribed pain meds so she could work. There ae other things people got wrong too by listening to others gossip on other blog sites. jmo
Well at this point we can be pretty sure that LE has pretty much cleared Crystal. And from some posts that I see some people arent too happy about that. It is a shame that they cant let it go and focus on the people LE has evidence on and has locked up and hopes to get info from. That is real sad. jmo
Right now Crystal is the victim and its her daughter that is still missing has anyone said one kind word towards her? I think she is still hurting also and possibly as much Teresa
but I have yet to see anyone say they feel sorry for her. jmo
The only victim here to me is Haleigh IMO.She could not defend herself and it apears no one could defend her either.Poor Haleigh.
True But if some feel sympathy for Teresa they need to look at what it has done to the otherside of the family. Especially now that it is pretty clear that Haleighs missing did not involve them. jmo
If LE had one shred of evidence that led them to believe the Sheffields were involved I doubt that Junior would be in Crystals care. jmo
Good Night all, Pray that one of the ones responcible talks and lets us know where Haleigh is. jmo
Tobias, I read the info about Crystal giving birth to Chloe with drugs in her system on KP’s reply to the Bar complaint. Now of course that could be a lie – like everything else we read everywhere else from everyone else.
That’s been one of the problems all along. Some people have chosen not to believe everything LE says at some point or another from the beginning too. It’s very very difficult to know what is true so people choose who they believe or at least try to find the most reliable source (or what appears to him/her to be the most reliable source) and that’s an individual choice, too.
Tobias,
Don’t know what gossip you are talking about….the info about Crystal using drugs came straight from her lawyer, and Crystal has not denied even a word of it.
Crystal was “cleared” the same way Ron was “cleared”. It seems to me that LE considers it unlikely that either one of them had anything to do with Haleigh going missing. The extended families on both sides have not been “cleared”.
Tobias, your reasoning re Jr. going to the Sheffields because LE knows they weren’t involved is seriously flawed, unless you believe Jr. was left with Misty because LE is also confident she wasn’t involved, and I think we all know that is not the situation.
Do I feel sorry for Crystal…sure I do….being raised in a drug house meant she never stood much of a chance. I think Misty’s upbringing was far worse, and as she’s still very young, I have deep sympathy for her. I can’t imagine how horrific it must be to have parents like hers and no adult figure to set a good example, which is one of the reasons I’m furious that TM set her up with a 44 year old drug dealer.
Me, me too! 🙂
Me, me 3!!
I have been trying to refrain from even commenting, however, I must say something. I have compassion for all involved, although I do not believe that Ron and Misty “harmed” Haleigh, their actions very well may have played a major role in her disappearance. I do not believe that the Sheffield side is involved to that extent.
I do believe in my heart that the true “victims” are that baby girl and her brother.
This pouncing back and forth is ridiculous and it’s not serving anyone there OR here on this blog.
Basically, all the things we read and comment on are HEARSAY!!!! We don’t know a hell of alot, but we seem to blog as if we do!!!
m2c & treece….great minds think alike! I was so sure I was going to take a thumping for what I posted and so glad I’m not the only one thinking that way.
me, me 4!!! on some of your points.
Hi Cent, long time no talk, how are you doing?
I’m thinking that too many personal notions/feelings, have clouded this case/discussions… all the way around. It’s not so simple to say, ok Crystal is clean, give her son back to her. I’m willing to bet that LE informed her of the pending arrest. And if that’s the case, then perhaps she had time to get clean. Who knows?!? I do know that I give her props for being honest about her use, as I will give Ron props for NOT running out on his children years ago. They are two people that made some very stupid choices in their lives.
me said,in January 25th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
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Yep Great minds think alike. Count me in.
Everybody’s talking about their right’s,and how they feel sorry for them,
They’re grown people with the knowledge of right and wrong but they still chose to go down the wrong path.
Heck Haleigh has/had a right too,to live and be happy at home,not walk on eggshell’s around a bunch of druggie’s and used as a pawn no doubt!
And if she’s no longer with us,she deserves what every other child does,to be grieved over and missed and put to rest and a really nice burial etc…..and JUSTICE! but not one of these fool’s has a bit of concern for her,just their next high!!
complaining about his right’s,a shower,he’s the only one who isn’t at the Holiday Inn…..little spoiled brat!Dear Lord what’s wrong with that man?
Besides stupidity?
I would have begged the media,please help me find Haleigh so I can atleast know if she’s ok,since I can’t go anywhere,even if he could he wouldn’t,He’d call looking for Misty yea, but never saw him one time look for his daughter!
I know I am going to prison?? Well gee do ya reckon Ronald!
Is he an only child?I have never heard,have yall? It’s alway’s about him,I mean my daughter
is an only child ,She’s 30 now and yea got all the intention and she still demand’s it….Nothing wrong with that,That’s our fault.LoL But if she does wrong she’ll get attention and alot of it,Not good attention either,I’d make her face the music! Teresa now blames Misty cause he’s into drug’s…go CINDY the 2nd! TN should watch all the clip’s of cindy and she’d know what NOT to do!
Yall got me wondering about a boat now &
The Squeaky shoes Jr.mentioned but I wonder too about the couch bouncing,which fit’s my theory from the start that the “Man in black” could be to a child a “black man”,maybe Haleigh and Jr. caught them but Haleigh was old enough to tell the whole story! Jr.wasn’t, but I thought the whole time Ron knew more but withheld it but now IMO I think he was involved since day 1 so it kinda blow’s my original theory out!
Did you guy’s notice too that on his one plea for Haleigh interview where he is obviously fake crying he said,I want my child back,I want my child back please,I want my CHILD’S “LIFE” BACK” How’d he know she didn’t have a life and another just after he fall’s to the ground he is holding his cell phone and it’s ringing,OK…Who wouldn’t answer that phone no matter where you were at the time if your child is really kidnapped!!
Hi Treece!
I’m doing okay, just been reading here and trying to get caught up. Some of things I’ve been reading are beyond belief. What has happened?
100% agree with Kat!
cent, click on the link in Jan’s article to hear Ron’s interview. Then M2c posted a link at 11:49 this morning of Teresa N on the Today show. I think those are the 2 newest events.
JB said,in January 25th, 2010 at 3:20 pm Ron’s comments make me angry! “This is a setback in my life”…HUH? Losing your child was a setback? And him saying the reason he was arrested was because of Haleigh! OMG, it is like he is blaming his child for his arrest! HOW ABOUT SOME ACCOUNTABILITY RONNY BOY! YOU ARE A MAJOR LOSER AND YOU ARE THE REASON YOUR DAUGHTER IS MISSING! IT IS YOUR LIFESTYLE, THE PEOPLE YOU ALLOWED AROUND YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR OBVIOUS DRUG PROBLEMS THAT CAUSED ALL OF THIS. So you AREN’T in jail because of the Haleigh investigation. You ARE in jail because ONCE again you committed a crime. I hope they lock these freaks up and throw away the key. I think these people have fried every last brain cell they had. Ron is where he belongs along with the rest of the low lifes and I don’t care if ANY of them ever see daylight again! Now Misty needs to come clean with what she knows! If she doesn’t, throw her into general population for a little while! I’m So flippin’ sick of these creeps acting like the world owes them something. GET A REAL JOB, STOP DOING DRUGS, STOP LIVING OFF YOUR MISSING CHILD YOU ANTHONY WANNA-BE’S, CLEAN UP YOUR ACT AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ALMIGHTY, TELL US WHERE HALEIGH IS!
These people are going to give me a dang stroke.
AMEN JB…..GMTA!
Treece,
So sorry I meant to the blog… I know the latest arrest stuff, I read the interview last night. I was just speaking about the things that have been posted… Thanks for looking out tho.
treece, m2cheart and Me: I totally agree with your posts and compassion expressed within them for the people mentioned. I’m waiting and waiting to see the court docs, especially the immediate on the spot drug testing for Crystal. Why wasn’t one done for her “current” paramour too? Whoever that is presently. As they will be around Jr. also, oops no one mentions or thinks about that one eh? Ugh! Well I do and it ain’t acceptable.
I want to see court and DCF documentation Crystal and family has been thoroughly investigated within this short time span. Which is a red flag going off for me. There ain’t no way in Hades this emergency hearing could be filed, paperwork done and in hand, Crystal clean and off drugs and they have no prior knowledge of this planned undercover “takedown”. There’s no way. The court system works like a snail, even emergency hearings take a minimum 48 hours to process and set a hearing thats after the fact of providing proof such emergency hearing is warranted to begin with. And that within itself takes knowledge and pre-planning with a strategy in place to move quicker than lightning.
I smell sneaky rat fish, and I’m no hater, nor do I have any agendas. I just have common sense and the ability to use it. We have the maternal grandmother, Marie, losing custody herself of her own children, kicking Crystal out at the age of 14 years old, my goodness, what role models and parenting are worse? Not to mention the drug housing going on in this time period also.
Then the Sheffields have the nerve to seek emergency custody for the exact same things themselves have and still do? You reap what you sow comes to mind in a flash of lightning when I sit back and take a look at this case as a big picture. Jr. being uprooted from the only family and home he’s ever known is devastating and tragic compounded on the loss of his sister and the pain and suffering he has endured along with observing his custodial family endure during this past year. Now this! Just wow! And people are rejoicing? Unbelievable!
Somethings not right in Putnam County. Somethings not right in Bakers County, but we’ll never know because it’s never spotlighted, nor watched 24/7 as Putnam county has been along with the Cummings and Croslins which has “YET” to lead to Haleigh in anyway. Constant distractions, drama, spinning, but not one iota of breaking someone’s testimony nor a slither of evidence or a tip leading to Haleigh in the least. Seems many are trying to make the shoe fit, even when it’s ill fitting.
This case will be a matter of who can win being the sneakiest, most in charge and getting by with whatever they choose to do, legal or not, doesn’t matter. It’s out of control and a disgrace. Haleigh deserves better and so does her loving family who cares for her and are innocent of any wrong doing concerning her removal from her home.
Good to read everyone’s posts, thanks for the interesting and informative reading.
cent, I understand now and it is sad to me what has happened here.
Me,
There is an on the spot drug test,Last yr.my niece was on crack bad and anything she could find…DCS showed up,gave her the test,she failed it..they stayed there till her 2 kid’s got off the bus and made her call both their dad’s to come from out of state to get them!
Treece,
I have always been a staunch supporter of FREE SPEECH, but there’s a fine line that should perhaps be morally drawn by everyone! Call me a wannabe Mod, I don’t give a shit, enough is enough!!
Kool Look, I appreciate what you have to say and I see the concern. In so much of this case Common sense and fairness have been the most lacking.
cent, AMEN!!!!!
Funny how this case and only this case has made me become very wary about public access to records/documents. These children will have this with them for life, there is no escape, no matter who they live with.
cent, that is so true and to me it is going to be so hurtful. I think it will be such a contradiction to them. On the one hand saying we love you and care and kept you in the news bla, bla, bla. But while we did that we ripped your family to shreds, especially your dad.
When people commit crimes it is automatic that others will also associate that crime ability with others. If they brought this trouble upon themselves, why are we NOT to believe they could and/ might have done another serious crime? Even those who still don’t believe that Ron is guilty in Haleigh’s disappearance but don’t agree that his family deserves an over flowing of sympathy are told they are wrong.
I’ve seen a lot of posts all over the web since these arrests and many, many people are not in sympathy with Ron or his family. Maybe that is sad, but nobody made Ron SELL those pills. If he had just got caught using something I could have almost understood. Many people use different things to get through. SOme go home to a perfectly legal glass or two of wine, beer, or liquer. Others take a legally prescribed pill, then others use illegal substances or abuse the legal stuff. It’s unhealthy, sometimes illegal, but very very human. The big issue is why was Ron DEALING??? COme on? He, they all, apprarently knew they were being watched. If he is “working on the inside” then they should expect this kind of reaction until he is vindicated. It’s not just the few that post here. There is an onslaught of testain towards him & his family, warrented or not. Some are comparing Haleigh’s disappearance and Caylee Anthony’s murder. It’s not a far leap folks. Except that we can not prove one way or another that Haleigh is still alive. This is the problem though, a child not being reported missing for 31 days is deplorable, a child reported missing and found to have been hidden for 365+ days…….
That’s what we ALL are hoping and praying WON’T be the answer to WHERE IS HALEIGH?
Cent…this all started with Caylee’s case….well, it went on before, just a little more quietly….Look back for about a decade on some sights…
UPDATE:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/crime/012510-haleigh-cummings-family-arrests
MyFoxOrlando Orlando,Fl
1-25-10 Updated: 9:06 p.m. EST
“Haleigh Cummings’ family speaks about recent drug arrests”
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Don’t know if this is true or not but per this article, Misty’s bond has been reduced to $500,000.
cent @ 8:36 amd 8:47pm:
I am very grateful that you did not refrain from making those comments! Good thoughts and perspective and I appreciate hearing them!
What I am saying is that so many here blogging has made it their mission to condemn them all. I do not like one side better than the other. I have been very judgmental towards them all (both sides of family), and I probably am being towards my fellow bloggers.
But some of the crap that has been posted here, is way out of line. But these are just my personal beliefs.
I have no sympathy for no one but Haleigh and Jr and Chole too. The others are adults and dont know or wasnt raised right to know how to make life a good journey. They did not have good examples in front of them growing up and these kids that got arested was not taught no better and dont know no better.Sorry I got to stop venting here. All I care about is ALL out kids.
Tobias,maybe all people are not buyers,but have good reason to be frightened of this crew.
me said – the reason we can bash Ron is because he will not admit to his part in his daughter missing. He will not own up to any wrong doing on his part. There is forgiveness, and moving forward when there is admission of guilt and a true display of wanting to right the wrong. He has not righted the wrong, he made it worse. He had complete control over Misty, a person young enough to be easily influenced by a man who she thought loved her. I know Misty may hold the “key”, but Ron placed that “key” in Misty’s hand. Sure, she’s done wrong, but she was a minor when Ron, as an adult, began influencing her. He has destroyed her, and with parents like hers she had no defense.
JB,I didn’t mean to imply Crystal never took drugs.I said I didn’t know,but I’m praying for her.
Treece,I believe the drug test info came from Art.I can go back to see.
listening, thanks but I agree it came from Art.
Hope you have a good evening.
I’m sorry guy’s,I asked about ron being an only child..I forgot his sister is Crystal too!!
Do you all know yet how Misty is paying for an attorney,She told the judge she could afford one?
ALso reported on First Coast or Jax site…I’ll get the quote.
beautiful*adams (cent)
said,in January 25th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
I’m thinking that too many personal notions/feelings, have clouded this case/discussions… all the way around. It’s not so simple to say, ok Crystal is clean, give her son back to her. I’m willing to bet that LE informed her of the pending arrest. And if that’s the case, then perhaps she had time to get clean. Who knows?!? I do know that I give her props for being honest about her use, as I will give Ron props for NOT running out on his children years ago. They are two people that made some very stupid choices in their lives.
I agree with beautiful Adam’s on the fact that because the father is in jail now it make’s CS a Mother.it doesn’t at all,and yea she owed $4,000 in child support and I’d say maybe she was scared of RC but I’d fight a grizzly in the dark with a limb if I lost my children and especially knowing what she knew & a young girl was caring for them.That’s why until today I’ve never mentioned CS and custody,Hopefully she’s learned a lesson and may change but Jr. has to have someone now more than ever,but to be honest I am concerned,I hope C proves me wrong!
I know I feel compassion for all of these people, who are hurting, like the grandmothers, and even the ones in jail. However, the law is the law. Part of the air of celebration comes from the fact that we might find out more about Haleigh.
Things couldn’t keep going the way they were. Someone else was going to get killed. They were all skating on thin ice, and, eventually, they were going to fall thru. Innocent people could get killed or robbed. This has been out of control and wild for a year, now. Jr. had witnessed and went thru enough in his short life and needed to be safe.
There are many people in that area of Florida that haven’t chosen to live this kind of life. Ron is a grown man with the experience to operate heavy equipment. If he had to move to find a job, then he should have done it. Alot of people choose to get out of that area and do it.
Someone know where I can find the video of TN interview today?
Please see my 9:34 p.m.
Does anyone know if Misty’s bond has been reduced to $500,000? Did FoxOrlando make a mistake in reporting that is has been reduced?
If someone knows, please reply. Thank you.
At least, we haven’t been reading about Crystal’s arrest every few weeks, like we have with Ron.
CathyJo,
Please see my Link. I think it is at 4:06 p.m.
Update from WOKV
http://wokv.com/localnews/2010/01/haleighs-grandmother-questions.html
WOKV Jacksonville, Fl
1-25-10 9:16 p.m. EST
“Haleigh’s Grandmother Questions Misty’s Honesty”
Kat…what do you mean he won’t admit to his part in Haleigh going missing? What an awful thing to say. Do you think Tim Miller ought to admit his part in his daughter going missing? Mark Klaas? That just sounds mean and sick to me. What about Jessica Lunsford’s grandparents who were caring for Jessica when she was taken from her home? Think they ought to “admit” their part?
Wow…I don’t know what to say. I guess it makes some people feel good to bash the parents of the children victims. Not me…it makes me feel ill to read stuff like what you typed.
Cathyjo…I don’t think she said she could “afford” one…she said she had one. I assume Fields is acting pro bono.
Cathyjo…I don’t think she said she could “afford” one…she said she had one. I assume Fields is acting pro bono.
Karen, Crystal and/or Chad would have been arrested for the crack on their property but for the fact they obviously lied to police about who it belonged to and tried to blame a friend. Does that make them better? Chad was arrested not long ago for cocaine, Crystal gave birth to a baby with illegal drugs in her system. How does that make them better than Ron & family?
Face it. This was going to happen to Ron. He was too out of control, and he was given many more chances than anyone I know of.
So True Karon!
They knew they were wrong,and it’s alway’s ronald saying,I am trying to make an HONEST living and HONEST wages!!
I think we know now that’s not true at all..period!!
ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
New Developments in Haleigh Cummings Disappearance
Aired February 25, 2009 – 19:00:00 ET
JaneVm transcript:
Ron has many offenses. He doesn`t seem to have many convictions. He — he had possession of marijuana, possession of cocaine. And I don`t think that really an issue in Haleigh`s disappearance, but I do think it becomes an issue regarding who he`s associated with and who may, you know, have a vendetta against him.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. It`s such a fascinating case. Let`s dive into it. Crystal Sheffield made accusations about her ex, Haleigh`s dad, Ron Cummings` alleged drug use. Geraldo Rivera from FOX asked Cummings about his drug history. Here`s what he said. Listen to Ron.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: What about the allegations of cocaine use, methamphetamine use?
RONALD CUMMINGS, FATHER OF HALEIGH: There`s nothing. I do not do drugs.<<<<<<<
RIVERA: You don`t do drugs? All those arrests were all…
CUMMINGS: No.<<<<<<<<>>>>But now we know that he was not to possess firearms. He was not to come within 100 feet of Crystal, who was the petitioner at the time in the injunction.
>>>>REV. JERRY WRIGHT, CUMMINGS FAMILY PASTOR: Yes. Here`s the situation. With Crystal, the mom, she is obviously very distraught, very upset, just wanting her daughter back. That is for sure.
Obviously, I spoke with Ronald just after that. >>>>>We spent an hour, hour and a half together. Look, everyone understands that he, as the dad, and Crystal, as the mom, have not had a perfect past. We get that, right? That`s true.
>>>>However, they have come to the place at this point in their life where they`re doing things a lot better<<<>>>He`s trying to do good, trying to make an >>>>honest<<>>>He told me last night — we were out in the middle of the cold in North Florida. Believe it or not, it does get cold in North Florida. We were out in the middle of North Florida, and he told me this. >>>>He said, “Pastor,” he said, “I kissed my daughter, went to work, trying to make an >>>>honest living, trying to make an>>>>honest wage. I came home eight hours later, and she was gone.”
Why does he alway’s say,An “HONEST LIVING”
Look’s to me like he’s always thought he didn’t but want’s everyone else to think he did!
TY Justice!
I didn’t say it made her better, but things were way out of control with Ron. Jr. was not safe, Ron went to jail, and Crystal is his mother. I didn’t plan this, and I don’t have a dog in this fight. I suspect there was more reasons than we were told, also.
Karon Cox said,in January 25th, 2010 at 10:47 pm At least, we haven’t been reading about Crystal’s arrest every few weeks, like we have with Ron.
Good Point Karon!!
Karen, Ron was given more chances than anyone you know of??? Really? You don’t know anyone who had parents that had the money to send them to college or anything like that? In my world, Ron came from a disadvantaged background.
As for him being out of control???? Not sure what you are talking about. When Haleigh went missing he was her caregiver and had a full time job, and Haleigh’s mother was a dead beat mom. Jeez. GMAB.
You think TM was given too many chances? Think he should have been locked up for his involvement with cocaine and/or the stalking?
CathyJo…don’t know why you bothered cutting and pasting all that. He had a full time job whether you like it or not. Tim Miller also got involved in criminal activity after his daughter died. Think he got too many chances, after all, he went to hospital rather than jail?
Misty’s bond was lowered by a judge today.
A judge has reduced Misty Croslin’s bond from $950,000 to $500,000. Misty’s family says even though her bond has been reduced, they still can’t afford to bail her out.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/crime/012510-haleigh-cummings-family-arrests
Me,
I was referring to this!
Misty Croslin’s First Appearance in Court Today!
Posted on January 21st, 2010 by Jan Barrett in Op-ed, Society and Culture.
OK by now we all know that there was a lot of excitement in Putnam County or should I say the whole area between three Florida counties.
When Misty appeared in court this morning the Judge in St. Johns County made it clear to her that she was being charged with 6 counts of drug trafficking, five for which is from Putnam County and one in St. Johns County. He told her that her bond was being set at $950,000.
>>>>Judge Charles Tinlin asked Misty whether or not she could afford an attorney and her response to him was that <<<she could afford one and in fact she already had one.<<<I was like WOW! I want to be on the payroll this girl is on if she isn’t working yet she can afford an attorney. Those guys are expensive.
Karen…what I call “out of control” is a couple like Crystal & Chad keeping crack on premises where there are numerous children, and using illegal drugs while pregnant. That’s what I call “out of control” and that all happened before Haleigh went missing. You say you don’t have a dog in the fight…seems to me you do, or at least an agenda. Not the first time. We already know KP & team lied and misled us for months…are you part of the replacement crew?
CathyJo…I watched the video of her appearance, and I didn’t hear her use the word “afford”. I’ll check it again. Does anyone have the link to the video handy? I didn’t bookmark it.
CathyJo63:
When I run completely out of patience, is where violence takes place. I think about what all Jr, has been thru, and it sickens me that the adults around him couldn’t control themselves and protect that child. We see what happened to Haleigh, and the adults around her say they don’t know.
As far as I am concerned this drug bust proves that all we have heard isn’t gossip.
me said,in January 25th, 2010 at 11:25 pm CathyJo…don’t know why you bothered cutting and pasting all that. He had a full time job whether you like it or not. Tim Miller also got involved in criminal activity after his daughter died. Think he got too many chances, after all, he went to hospital rather than jail?
No bother?? I never mentioned Tim Miller,why do I care what he did,he didn’t kill his child,not that ron did either but he sure upheld the one with the answer’s… I bothered Because it’s a fact..he was still dealing which makes it an UNhonest living,he no doubt worked b/c how could he explain where the money came from for the car’s and all this nice stuff?
Don’t bring TM in it to me,I’m here for Haleigh!
I don’t have an agenda. This is the first time I have mentioned Crystal in any way. I have not made a study about her. The court saw fit to do this, and I doubt that I will mention her ever again.
Me,Here is the link!http://www.bloggernews.net/123603
Cathy…you say it is a fact that he was “still dealing” in February. That is what I call malicious gossip, not a “fact”. You should not post your opinions and malicious gossip as facts.
My God Me,okay,have it your way,I am not gonna argue,but ask yourself?? Wy are they in jail now?
Cathy…you say you are here for Haleigh…you really think Haleigh would appreciate you maligning her father all over the internet? I think you give yourself too much credit. I believe Haleigh loved her father very much and wouldn’t be happy to see what people like you have been saying about him and doing to him. Frankly, I’m surprised you and others haven’t driven him to suicide…though it seems you are trying your best.
I think the point here of comparing Tim M to Ron is that it is possible that Ron has turned to drugs or made some bad choices due to the circumstance of Haleigh being gone just as Tim M did when his daughter was missing. Fortunately TM was able to get treatment and turn his misery into something constructive instead of going to jail. If I understand it right that is the parallel.
me said,
Karen…what I call “out of control” is a couple like Crystal & Chad keeping crack on premises where there are numerous children, and using illegal drugs while pregnant. That’s what I call “out of control” and that all happened before Haleigh went missing. You say you don’t have a dog in the fight…seems to me you do, or at least an agenda. Not the first time. We already know KP & team lied and misled us for months…are you part of the replacement crew?
me said,
in January 25th, 2010 at 7:22 pm Also, I don’t believe Crystal passed an “on the spot” drug test. Never heard of one that could be tested that quickly, and I doubt it happened. If she was so addicted to crack (or whatever it was) that she couldn’t even give it up when pregnant, you really have to suspect she’s still using. For Jr’s sake, I sure hope she isn’t, but in all likelihood, she will need some long term professional rehab to beat drugs if she was so addicted she didn’t care enough for Chloe to not use while pregnant.
Me,I am spreading gossip,No! I am not agreeing with you! We have different opinion’s so lay off!
me said,in January 25th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Cathy…you say you are here for Haleigh…you really think Haleigh would appreciate you maligning her father all over the internet? I think you give yourself too much credit. I believe Haleigh loved her father very much and wouldn’t be happy to see what people like you have been saying about him and doing to him. Frankly, I’m surprised you and others haven’t driven him to suicide…though it seems you are trying your best.
Like I said,I refuse to argue,Don’t judge me.you don’t even know me but you don’t care to say what you have,
Do ya think she wouldn’t mind you bashing her mother??So ditto! Do ya think that if she’s found she will think good of her daddy marrying the one with answer’s?
So he put himself in that spot!!
You have no idea
treece…exactly! It took Tim years to hit rock bottom and be hospitalized. He was very lucky to avoid arrest for his criminal activity, Ron is in a much smaller town, and didn’t have the same sort of luck. And FWIW, I believe cocaine is far more deadly than the prescription drugs Croslin & co have allegedly been dealing in. And we all know alcohol kills far more people than all illegal drugs combined, but I don’t see anyone locking up the liquor store owners.
Karon Cox said,in January 25th, 2010 at 11:30 pm CathyJo63:
When I run completely out of patience, is where violence takes place. I think about what all Jr, has been thru, and it sickens me that the adults around him couldn’t control themselves and protect that child. We see what happened to Haleigh, and the adults around her say they don’t know.
As far as I am concerned this drug bust proves that all we have heard isn’t gossip.
You hit it right on Karon,couldn’t have said it better myself!!
Cathy…I haven’t bashed her mother…just stating what we know are facts, and demonstrating the hypocrisy in some of the “anti-Ron” statements. It is a fact that Crystal was using drugs and Chloe was born with them in her system, it’s a fact she was driving with Chloe when using drugs, a fact that she had a boyfriend who was a crackhead living with her and the children, and a fact that she refused to pay any financial support for Haleigh. I can’t change those facts. But I certainly haven’t made anything up about her or spread any “gossip” about her. And I’ve already said I feel sorry for her….she didn’t have the “chances” many of us have enjoyed, and growing up in a drug house with a father who makes a living out of dog fights is very awful. As was Misty’s childhood.
Karen, are you threatening “violence”? If impatience causes you to become violent, you ought to get some counselling for that. Did you see what happened to Nancy Kerrigan’s father?
Me,Why can’t you just accept that we have 2 different opinion’s and drop it!These other people are here for Haleigh as YOU and I both are..even if we’re on different sides,it’s still b/c of Haleigh!!!!!!!
We aren’t 2nd grader’s!
Me,You can bash mine all ya want! I do that myself,what you don’t know is I was born to 2 alcoholics and taken door to door to find someone who would take or trade me at 2 yrs old,so you see,I know alittle about it,my sister was sold for a bus ticket,my brothers left in a yard……Thank God,
it posted before i finished..sheesh
Thank God though that my adoptive parent’s did what they wouldn’t do!
And after they had 13 bio kid’s of their own!!
Now that’s a parent!!
CathyJo (11:15 p.m.)
You welcome!
Koollook – I am so very surprised at your point of view.
Have you never sinned? Have you never done anything that another might consider immoral? Did you never, ever use recreational drugs when you were a younger woman?
I did, and I now offer prayers of gratitude to Our Father and Savior, Jesus Christ that I do not have complete strangers demanding that I prove myself each and every day as a fit parent with no room for one mistake, no matter how large or how small.
Do you believe the Lord placed this spite and anger and bitterness and self-righteousness in your heart, Koollook?
I believe the Lord fills our hearts with mercy, forgiveness, compassion, love, empathy, and a desire for what is just and right, as well as a desire to reach out and help the less blessed among us.
Check your heart. See if it is filled with the things Our Saviour placed in there at your creation. If not, I believe the Lord would want you to replenish your heart with those qualities.
CathyJo, if that is what happened to you that explains why you have such strong feelings against Ron for his tie to drugs but that doesn’t explain why you excuse Crystal. I am sorry for what you went through but it does seem out of balance being so anti Ron and pro Crystal.
me said,in January 25th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
treece…exactly! It took Tim years to hit rock bottom and be hospitalized. He was very lucky to avoid arrest for his criminal activity, Ron is in a much smaller town, and didn’t have the same sort of luck. And FWIW, I believe cocaine is far more deadly than the prescription drugs Croslin & co have allegedly been dealing in. And we all know alcohol kills far more people than all illegal drugs combined, but I don’t see anyone locking up the liquor store owners.
BTW Me,I 100% agree about the whiskey stores!
Cathy Jo,
This happened to me to. I was adopted at the age of 2 and I dont support either of Haleighs parents at this point in this case.
Treece,I did not take up for her, this was my opinion on that! Scroll up and you’ll see!
I agree with beautiful Adam’s on the fact that because the father is in jail now it make’s CS a Mother.it doesn’t at all,and yea she owed $4,000 in child support and I’d say maybe she was scared of RC but I’d fight a grizzly in the dark with a limb if I lost my children and especially knowing what she knew & a young girl was caring for them.That’s why until today I’ve never mentioned CS and custody,Hopefully she’s learned a lesson and may change but Jr. has to have someone now more than ever,but to be honest I am concerned,I hope C proves me wrong!
CathyJo…sounds like you were very lucky you wound up with such great parents! I wish Misty and Crystal had had the good fortune of being put in a good foster home when they were young too, particularly Misty. I really don’t think she stood much of a chance at all and hope she is still able to one day turn her life around.
Me:
Saying that I get impatience with violence, and you jumping to thinking that I am threatening violence, is a bit of a stretch.
If you want to help us understand Ronald better, we will listen. I am open to hearing from people who really know Ron and Misty. I am really sorry they are in jail. It grieves me to see what TN is going thru.
Treece,I am alway’s fair..and alway’s honest and since you all think I am pretending to be a miss know it all or whatever…but ok,I was married at 15,Mom at 16,Married for 25 yrs. until 2003 and my husband was violently murdered and never got justice because justice is money,I never knew anyone who was murdered in my life until my husband,I was broke.the monster’s dad a millionaire! I believed the cop’s and DA were helping me when they told me never to speak of it till the trial…..I did just that! Thinking my husband would get the justice he deserved,and I don’t want sympathy but I am saying,I’m not here just to argue with you guy’s..I have been in alot of situation’s and Justice is very Important to me!! Caylee’s case kept me up night after night,just google my nic and you’ll see but only because like my husband,Haleigh and Caylee deserves justice!
Really 5,I’m so sorry!!!
Hug’s to you!!
We will be here until the cows come home, if speculating who is to blame. Not ONLY are they both to blame in my eyes, but the folks that raised them are too. Children learn this sort of behavior, they are not born with these type of instincts. With that said, it comes a time in your life when you truly realize Right from Wrong, and make your decisions accordingly.
And I think that perhaps,they ALL chose to continue living the “lifestyle” that they had become accustomed to. POVERTY, whether it be monetary/emotional/mental/educational is a hard AZZ hole to dig yourself out of. However, it’s NOT impossible!!!
Thank You Me, I really do appreciate that!!!
OMG i was sooooo lucky! They’re gone now but I couldn’t have picked a better set myself,ya know!
CathyJo….yeah! We’ve found some common ground! Alcohol kills soooo many people and screws up so many families and causes so much violence, but for some reason society has decided to declare a war on all drugs, except for the most dangerous one, alcohol. Very odd.
Alot of us had a lot harder beginning and struggle than people would ever guess. I won’t go into my story, but I have had a struggle.
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in January 26th, 2010 at 12:34 am We will be here until the cows come home, if speculating who is to blame. Not ONLY are they both to blame in my eyes, but the folks that raised them are too. Children learn this sort of behavior, they are not born with these type of instincts. With that said, it comes a time in your life when you truly realize Right from Wrong, and make your decisions accordingly.
And I think that perhaps,they ALL chose to continue living the “lifestyle” that they had become accustomed to. POVERTY, whether it be monetary/emotional/mental/educational is a hard AZZ hole to dig yourself out of. However, it’s NOT impossible!
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IMO I feel if your born with a alcholic mother and daddy its in your gents to be one to. I am just making a point here. I was born with these gents.So is the the same with drugs? I would think so.
OMG me too Me.really I do,ya know I thought about her LD test when she started crying and said,something to the effect that she’d had a hard life and it didn’t look like it would ever get better!
I wish she didn’t have to go thru this,I really do.but if she has the answer’s she should give them,that’s all I ‘m saying!For Haleigh’s sake!!
CathyJo63 said,in January 26th, 2010 at 12:36 am
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Cathy, we were not lucky. We were BLESSED!!!
me,
The reason no one is after the alcohol/tobacco is because the Government profits from the sales.
Me:
I agree with you about alcohol. I have seen enough lives destroyed over that stuff. Most anything done to excess is bad news.
5 O’clock… I was speaking about the environment/drug sales. Yes genes play apart… half my family (paternal side) were/are on heavy dope/alcohol, some of their children took that path, the others saw how it affected their childhood and rejected it all.
CathyJo, I don’t think you are pretending to be a miss know it all. If I mis read what you said I am sorry. It seemed like you bashed Ron for not talking about Haleigh in his current interview but claimed he was “fake crying” and condemning him when he was asking media to help earlier. Then amening JB for all the mean things said about Ron there just seemed like he is damned if he does damned if he doesn’t.
But I do see the post you made agreeing with Beautiful Adam. I agree with you both I hope Crystal proves me wrong because I have strong doubts about her.
To compare Teresa N to Cindy ANthony is mind boggling to me, like good verses evil, black verses white. I see nothing in TN that remotely resembles CA. But we can agree to disagree.
I am truly sorry for what you have been through as a child and losing your husband. It is not fair. I pray God will heal you pain.
CathyJo….I’m so sorry about your husband and that you weren’t able to get justice for him. I can’t imagine how awful that would be and how much pain that must cause you. In my life, I deal with many many people caught up in the Court System and many don’t believe me when I tell them that “justice” may never happen for them, no matter how many appeals they run etc. I am sorry you are one of the ones that never got to see justice, and in circumstances where your loved one lost his life, that must be horrible beyond any words.
I too hope for justice for Caylee, but I’m not sure what justice is in that case. It seems to me Casey is a very sick young woman, and I think the way she was raised played a big role in how it all played out. To me, justice in that case, would see George & Cindy also being punished for the role they played, as imo, they are selfish, lying, rotten people and raised a daughter to be the same way.
me said,in January 26th, 2010 at 12:37 am CathyJo….yeah! We’ve found some common ground! Alcohol kills soooo many people and screws up so many families and causes so much violence, but for some reason society has decided to declare a war on all drugs, except for the most dangerous one, alcohol. Very odd.
See,we can agree sometime,maybe not every time but some is good! LoL
emotion’s and experiences make us have different opinion’s I guess,no one’s pain is unique…..pain is pain!May affect us different way’s but still pain!
beautiful…ITA re the parents playing a role in how these young adults turned out. I also agree that young adults reach a point where they have to either change their lives or continue on like their parents. Sadly, that doesn’t often happen until about mid 20s (and for some it never happens) unless an appropriate adult takes them under their wing at a younger age and leads them in a different direction. What a shame Brock was the one they “assigned” to Misty.
It’s five o’clock somewhere said,
Cathy, we were not lucky. We were BLESSED!!!
OMG Yes we were! My amother alway’s said,I didn’t grow under her heart but in it..LoL
me,
Brock…. yes…. Brock. Some may get a bit pissed at this, but…. I am wondering IF she WAS assigned… because of her extra-curricular activities!!!
Bingo Me!!!!
you can go to jail for smoking a joint but not murder!!!
Karon, I’m sorry to hear that. The older I get the more obvious it becomes that life isn’t all that happy most of the time, and many of us have to learn to live with a great deal of sadness and pain and anger and keep going on. It’s not always easy…that’s for sure. Glad you are with us and have been surviving through your struggles.
I think it has been really nice how we all disagreed on some things, argued a little, talked it out and found some common ground and can all understand a little how the other sees things. I have enjoyed talking with everyone of you. Thank you all.
LoL Treece,i didn’t mean it like that,I just didn’t scrol..LoL
me said,in January 25th, 2010 at 11:45 pm Cathy…you say you are here for Haleigh…you really think Haleigh would appreciate you maligning her father all over the internet? >I think you give yourself too much credit.
justice, thanks for the heads up ont the
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/crime/012510-haleigh-cummings-family-arrests
Haleigh Cummings’ family speaks about recent drug arrests
“…Crystal Sheffield, has been granted emergency custody over Haleigh’s little brother…while his father was behind bars.”
so teresa will visit wed.
while misty bond reduced, family cannot bond her out. bond almost half of what it was.
i did listen to l.page show and attorneys said the bond amount was very large. i wonder if ronalds will go down proportionately and the rest of them. hmmm maybe some will bond out.
Me:
You’ve got that right about Donna Brock, at least that is the way it appears, right now.
I have never understood why everyone wanted to be so hard on TN. Where was Ron’s father during his childhood? Did he set an example for his son?
beautiful…couldn’t agree more re the profits from cigs & alcohol.
CathyJo…yep, for some reason “society” decided that selling pot and other drugs is far more heinous than senseless acts of violence which result in death and serious injury. Drunk drivers are slapped on the wrist even though they kill far more people than heroin dealers. Kick someone unconscious and give them brain damage and you might do 2-5 years…it is crazy.
Treece,that’s what I meant,she can watch cindy & know what not to do!!!
If she know’s or suspect’s don’t go overboard like cindy and blame everyone else,sit back,wait for proof and however it turn’s out hopefully she’ll have no regret’s!I meant no harm,actually I think C&G will pin it on anybody except casey and that is disrespectful to Caylee,she’ll never get justice b/c C & G and L have done nothing but lie!and hide eveidence!
treece said,in January 26th, 2010 at 12:58 am I think it has been really nice how we all disagreed on some things, argued a little, talked it out and found some common ground and can all understand a little how the other sees things. I have enjoyed talking with everyone of you. Thank you all.
Sometime’s thats what it takes..LoL
I am proud of us too.LoL
CathyJo, I agree, I think G & C have a lot of guilt in that deal. I see what you were saying. Cindy is the perfect example of what Teresa isn’t.
100% agree again Me,
cindy is the fault of what casey became,overbearing,made her keep Caylee knowing she didn’t want too!!!casey wanted to have fun,
Actually,never thought I’d say it but no wonder caseys messed up!! I still don’t excuse her but IMO it’s cindy’s fault where casey is!!
Thank You Treece!!!!!!
beautiful…I share your suspicions re why Donna was “assigned”. If that is true, that should be a crime. I think/hope Donna could do some serious time on her charges given she was carrying out criminal activity (allegedly) with a minor. The idea of a 44 year old woman dealing drugs with a 17/18 year old makes me feel ill. There is something very seriously wrong with that woman. What a shame she wasn’t “assigned” an appropriate role model, as the right person may have been able to help Misty turn her life in a different direction.
Karon…I agree re TN…and I believe TN adored Haleigh and took excellent care of her. This whole thing is so sad. I hope there is a happy ending for everyone one day very soon.
CathyJo…what I find most offensive about the Anthonys, are the way they are profitting from this….wearing expensive clothes, driving in limos and acting like the public owes them a luxurious life through donations. George is a total fraud and deadbeat, and I think Casey learnt a lot from him.
I’ve had a long day, going to bed now. Sweet dreams to you all. Thank you all for a nice chat.
treece…I agree re us all disagreeing and now finding some common ground to agree on…what a nice turn around!
Re Cindy & George….I actually think he is worse than she is…couldn’t hold down a job, gambled their life savings on the internet and lied about it, then, when it looked like he might get charged himself, pretending to be suicidal (I didn’t buy that depression stuff for a second). I think Cindy is awful, but if I had a husband like her and was working to support my husband and his gambling habits, I’d probably become awful too (I would have kicked his lazy ass out of the house!). If they knew Caylee was down the road from their house, and I believe they did, and have lied to LE about the psychic etc, I’d like to see them do some serious time for that. I don’t follow that case anymore because George and Cindy make me so upset.
good night treece…thanks for the discussion!
me,
Yes, I am very suspicious of several key players. I believe that their hands are way more dirtier than what has been exposed!! However, I have a highly advanced, variable mood altering case of paranoia/suspicions due to my enemy Bi-Polarization. So… what can I say!
5,
I hope you don’t mind me asking but I know how hard it is….the more we don’t know the more we need to know,our entire right’s are stripped from us as adoptee’s,ya know most people know their birth weight,time of birth,length at birth,medical history but b/c our bio parent’s signed a paper,it stripped us of our heritage and basic right’s,we didn’t sign ourselves away!!!
but if you have never read a book called “The primal wound”….you should,I never understood why i felt the way I did all my life till i got that book about 6 yrs ago and OMG you won’t believe what you’ll learn about you and why ALL adoptee’s go through what they do but no one validate’s our feeling’s because heck they don’t know!!Just like us!!
It’s around &13.00 on amazon and it’s written by an woman who adopted her daughter!
Night night… all
Me:
I always thought Ron and Misty were really in love. Was that as it appeared?
LFlorida:
This is going too far!! i’M GONNA START “OUTTING FAMILY MEMBERS IF THIS DOESN’T STOP!!!
thIS BASHING OF PEOPLE WHO DON’T AGREE WITH THE rON SUPPORTERS NEEDS TO STOP.
beautiful…I don’t think it’s your bipolar causing those suspicions…it is your intelligence.
Good night Treece and Cent. Sleep well.
me said,in January 26th, 2010 at 1:22 am CathyJo…what I find most offensive about the Anthonys, are the way they are profitting from this….wearing expensive clothes, driving in limos and acting like the public owes them a luxurious life through donations. George is a total fraud and deadbeat, and I think Casey learnt a lot from him.
Amen to that one sister!!!!!!!! They are the lowest of the low!!!!!!
Caylee was the victim!!!they couldn’t even think about her!!!!!
Just what casey wanted!!!
Not once did they try to find the truth,Id have been in prison for strangling my daughter thru jail bar’s till she fessed up!
Me,Boiled my blood when cindy said casey was just as much a victim!!!!
They could have told the truth,their mouth’s weren’t taped!
HGM:
We got thru all that, and we are moving on. I think everyone is just a little more tense because of the events of the last few days. There is alot going on and alot of uncertainty and changes, and people get upset during times of change.
Karon,
I don’t know Ron or Misty or any of the players…but I also thought/think Ron & Misty are/were in love. I think Misty probably loved the idea of being a part of a “normal” family too and TN & Grandma Sykes were probably the closest she’s ever come to having a normal family life. This is a very sad and tragic story all around. I pray it still has some sort of happy ending and that Haleigh is safe somewhere and will come back home soon.
Holly,What’s wrong??
me said,in January 26th, 2010 at 1:27 am treece…I agree re us all disagreeing and now finding some common ground to agree on…what a nice turn around!
Re Cindy & George….I actually think he is worse than she is…couldn’t hold down a job, gambled their life savings on the internet and lied about it, then, when it looked like he might get charged himself, pretending to be suicidal (I didn’t buy that depression stuff for a second). I think Cindy is awful, but if I had a husband like her and was working to support my husband and his gambling habits, I’d probably become awful too (I would have kicked his lazy ass out of the house!). If they knew Caylee was down the road from their house, and I believe they did, and have lied to LE about the psychic etc, I’d like to see them do some serious time for that. I don’t follow that case anymore because George and Cindy make me so upset.
Who parks their car next to the road,with the tag’s showing if they don’t want to be found,
What worried me was,That lee or george would get immunity,then pull a stunt and say the did it to get casey off!!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
They’re all nutty!!!!
me, @1:37
A lot of it is due too BP. Hell, I formed the thought that it was the mortgage co. that stole my Water Hose from my front yard. Night, night for real.
True Karon!!!!
Edgy..LoL
cent..lol re the water hose…doesn’t sound too crazy to me…I had a landlord break into my house to steal my camera, so it wouldn’t surprise me if the mortgage co did that! Hope you sleep well.
Cent:
At least you realize when you are not thinking right.
Re Donna Brock…I know TM says he ran a background check on her and she came up clean, but I find that very hard to believe. I have to wonder if her bond is so high because she does have a criminal history. I guess we will find out soon enough.
Re Misty in Court…I’m still trying to find the video…does anyone remember if it was shown on NG or JVM when she actually answered the judge re a lawyer?
HGM:
What did you think of Ron saying he was going to prison?
Karon Cox said,in January 26th, 2010 at 1:00 am Me:
You’ve got that right about Donna Brock, at least that is the way it appears, right now.
I have never understood why everyone wanted to be so hard on TN. Where was Ron’s father during his childhood? Did he set an example for his son?
Drug’s must have fried Brock’s brain b/c that’s the dumbest thing I ever heard.well close! LoL
An informant knowing they were being watched get’s involved!!!!!!!!!
ME:
I think it was on NG.
Karon…I know you didn’t ask me the question, but I just wanted to say I was shocked he gave that iv…can’t see what he hoped to gain from it and wonder why his lawyer let him do it…if he has a lawyer? Do we know if Shoemaker is going to represent him on this?
Karon…thx…I’ve got part 1 of that show playing in another window now.
Me,Justice gave this link.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/01/haleigh-cummings-grandmother-to-today-misty-is-the-key-to-this.html
I’m gonna check it out,hadn’t yet but I wanna see it!!
Do we know when ron & misty and the others are back before Court again? I would think their lawyers would want to ask for bond reductions.
I am waiting to see about what happens with Donna Brock. She looks too happy.
Crap,No video there,sorry!
Karon…my guess is she was loving the cameras being on her. I think she is seriously twisted.
yall got a link? LoL
ME:
I really don’t know about court dates and Ron’s lawyer. Shoemacher seemed too lenient about Ron making public appearances in the past.
That just seems to be an odd statement for Ron to make. He hasn’t been tried yet.
CathyJo63:
I don’t have a link. Maybe Me does.
Me:
I don’t think I would be happy to have cameras on me when I was going before a judge for selling drugs. I thought she might be high.
Thanx Karon, I wanna see it bad,and it’s bad when I can’t find it,heck I always do but this one is hiding!
A few things have me confused…can anyone help me make sense of this??
I looked at Putnam county court records and they don’t seem to have these cases listed. So I went to the jail log, and the only one that appears on it is Hope Sykes…no mention of any of the others…does anyone know why?
Also, if it was a month long LE investigation like they say, why did they arrest Hope on Jan. 4th?
Karon, I agree it was an odd statement. I suppose it could be argued 2 ways…
1. It was an admission of guilt on his part; or
2. He feels the system is stacked against him and people hate him because of Haleigh so he’ll do time whether or not he is guilty.
Hopefully we will soon get some more info about the case courtesy of the Sunshine Laws, and soon we’ll find out if they will plead out or go to trial.
Me:
Were the drugs sold in Satsuma?
Karon, she may have been high, but I’m not so sure as I don’t know any drug that would keep you that smiley the next day (assuming she didn’t bring any to jail with her and wasn’t given any in jail).
I just think there is something seriously wrong with her to be 44 years old and involved with a 17/18 year old in this way…it really creeps me out and I can’t help but wonder if there may have been a sexual aspect to it, which creeps me out even more!
Karon, I’m not 100% sure, but think at least Misty’s charges were in 2 different counties, one being Putnam, and I forget the name of the other one.
me:
You have a point about being smiley the next day. I forgot about the hearing being on the next day.
They are an odd couple, but I hadn’t thought about a sexual aspect. I will have to ponder on that for awhile, before I comment. I am not sure my mind will let me go there.
Yes, the DB issue is weird. I have been seriously thinking about checking into her, he husband and what stake they all may have had in all of this, since the beginning. I’m sorry about my outburst earlier. It’s just getting to me. No family member EVER needs to read this stuff. Why would they ever want to? Surely they know there’s gonna be uglyness, so why go there. You can’t stop people from thinking what they want or talking about what they think. Not here or elsewhere. Ron & his decisions are what got them to this point. Even IF he had nothing to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. He decided to let Misty come “back home” after her wild weekend. Why would he do that? Some sources claim he had some reasons NOT to but still did so. Why leave the kids with her so soon after a big fight? Why trust her with his all when she was acting so untrustworthy? If he really did have TC go check on them he had to have had at least an idea that they might not be ok or that Misty may have left them alone. Maybe she’s done that in the past but he can’t say so due to neglect on his part for trusting here after being caught at it already.
HGM:
Misty wasn’t in any condition to care for the kids. That’s for sure.
Hollys…the same could be said about Jessica Lunsford’s grandparents…I suppose if you wanted to be picky, you could say she shouldn’t have been left with them, they should have known they were too old and might not wake if an intruder entered, which is what happened. Poor grandpa, who LE quickly announced failed his LDT, was branded a sick paedophile by so many people on the internet…it was very sad. You could also argue a rape victim asked for it because of what they wore, or because they led a guy on…in my opinion, none of that matters. The person to blame is the perpetrator.
I believe more will come out about Donna Brock, soon. I am not sure what to expect, yet. It is all very odd. Something seems off about what Ronald said. Something seems off about Donna Brock’s involvement. I don’t know. Something doesn’t feel right about alot of this.
TN’s appearance on the Today show seemed right. She seemed crushed.
Hollys GM…you confuse me…the other night you thought the Sheffields might have Haleigh close to your home, and you drove by to check out a car there? Now you think Ron’s to blame for having Misty babysit?
It is getting late. I need to turn in. It was good visiting with everyone. I will talk to you tomorrow. Something new may come up by then.
I found it!!! Right at the beginning of this video, she’s asked about a lawyer and she doesn’t say anything about being able to “afford” one…just that she has one, Robert Field.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/44/rXes9kiS5PA
Good night Karon. Hopefully Haleigh will be home safe and sound by the time you wake.
I happened to speak with an officer tonight about my sighting back in April. He said that I wouldn’t hear anything from LE about it. No follow-up, nothing. I did tell him some recent info that had come into my hands and he is going to take it to thee right channels. He agreed about some strange “patterns” in the sightings. I can’t say more at this time, don’t want to say too much, especially in an open forum. Hopefully it’s good news though.
Me:
Wouldn’t that be great? Let’s find Haleigh.
That’s right me;
I can flip and do a 180 on a dime. Why? Cause I am keeping an open mind….Read my last post. If what some think is true Haleigh may be home very soon, thanks in part ot my efforts & staying open minded. Yes, I blame Ron for alot of dumb decisions. Sometimes it’s a passing thought other times it stays with me. Ron had a stupid choice for live in. Ron decided to leave them with her rather then ask a family member to watch them.
HGM:
We need some good news.
Karon…it would be great…for the first time that I know of, I dreamt last night that LE got some real information about her. I sure hope the dream comes true!
I just watched TN on the Today Show…wow, that is so so sad. The poor lady. I hope she has a good support system in place.
I’d love to spill it all right now, don’t get me wrong. I also don’t want to jeopardize the situation should certain people get wind. Trust me when I say that there has been work going on by bloggers behind the scenes. I mean actual work, ok. Even if someone has strong feeling s about Ron and his lifestyle they can still work to try to prove or disprove a theory. What if a certain theory pays off. I don’t mind being wrong about Ron, if it brings Haleigh home.
Now, me, do you want me to keep working to help this situation or should I back off. Maybe I post certain ways to keep others from knowing howI really feel. Maybe that’s part of the flip-flopping. Ever think about that? If EVRYBODY who knows more starting telling it, the real “kidnapper(s)” might find out what they are really up to……ooops! said too much already….going back to doing some REAL work. Maybe, just maybe it will help bring Haleigh home.
well, I can say that new information has been given to a person in a position of power. More to come.
me:
I hope so. She has grieved so hard for Haleigh, and now all this other loss. It is tragic. Where is her daughter? Is she living in Satsuma?
Hollys…I recently left my cats with a lady, and paid her good money to catsit them while I went on a vacation. She killed one of them. I beat myself up over it every day, as there is a big part of me that thinks I should have known better and should have used a different petsitter. I feel tremendous guilt about it. While I was overseas I could tell she wasn’t following the rules I had set down, and I thought they might be stressed and upset when I returned, but never in my worst nightmares did I think she’d leave one without food and water (which she did). Was it my fault? I don’t blame Ron and I’m trying not to blame myself too much for what happened to my kitty. I made an awful mistake that i have to live with, and so did Ron.
I still ain’t found one.grr
HGM:
There is one person who hasn’t been mentioned much that I have a funny feeling about, but I don’t want to say who.
Karon;
yes,,,,twitter can be a blessing or a curse
Hollys…please don’t back off…I enjoy your posts even if I don’t always agree with them! I sure hope your siting was of Haleigh and that she is home safe very soon.
Re her daughter, I think she’s close by. And she has her own mother, who is also probably in very deep grief at the moment. Losing Ron on top of Haleigh, and then Jr. going….they’ve “lost” their family. What an awful situation.
CathyJo…what are you looking for? Can I help?
me;
So sorry about you cat. I know how a pet can be a family member. You must have been devestated. I can see that. My son died in his sleep at 3 1/2 months old. There hasn’t been a day go by that I don’t beat myself up that there might have been something could have done if I’d had known or had checked in on him sooner. of course medical professionals insist that isn’t true but one still takes that inner guilt along with them throughout their lives. I feel bad for all of Haleigh’s family, even Ron. I hope that he didn’t have anything to do with it but sometimes it’s hard to overlook the stuff that comes out.
OMG Holly,serious?
HGM:
Noone has paid attention to me when I have mentioned this person. I don’t have anything concrete to go on. When I look at the personalities in that family, this one person, stands out to me. They would have done it trying to help.
Something that came to me while getting ready for work tonight. TN & GGMA haven’t “lost” Jr. They can still have a relationship with him. They have only lost control over him, that is all. It can be hard to watch a child being handed over to a parent who one deems unfit, whether it’s true or not. Take comfort in the fact that any mistakes on the mom’s part can & will be turned over to authorities. Maybe TN & GGMA should take a page out of Ron’s book of plays. Keep your friends close and your enimies closer! Think about it. If they were on friendly terms TN could presumable pick Jr up and be welcomed on SHeffield property. 😉
Oh,LoL Me,
Looking for the tn video,and the one that showed DB in court!
Karon…I’m wondering if it’s the same person that I’ve always had a funny feeling about? Someone who has seriously stayed under the radar, which is very odd in the circumstances.
I still have quite a few suspects on my list..
Tommy (probably #1) and the visitor who left that night, sex offender possibly known to the family or possibly not, and I’ve been highly suspicious of Chad Griffis from the beginning, particularly because of the warrant being served the day before for unpaid child support. A small part of me has always suspected the Anthonys could be behind it too…because of the timing, similarities in names and age, and I believe they’d do just about any sick thing to help their daughter. I highly doubt Crystal or Ron were directly involved, and I doubt Misty would have done anything deliberately to harm Haleigh, but may have left the house with Haleigh in it, or passed out and gave someone like Tommy the opportunity.
me (2:23 a.m.)
I don’t have time to read the comments right now and don’t know if someone answered you.
Misty Croslin, Tommy Croslin and Donna Brock are in St. John’s County Jail (Detention Center or whatever it is called), Ron Cummings is in Flagler County Jail. Hope Sykes is in Putnam County Jail.
HGM:
I think Crystal would let Jr. spend time with them, as long as Ron is in jail.
CathyJo63;
As a heart attack!!! This could be what we are waiting for, but I’m not sure 100%. I will keep working on it to see if I can get more info to pass along. I have reported more details to one of the bloggers I have been working with. They may have the info I need to make it a full fledged investigation. All I can do is keep working it and all of the angles.
I also plan to start work on DB….just to see where that leads.
Karon has me guessing? LoL
Oman Holly’…….now you’ve got me going!!!!!
But i still have to wait!!!!! I hope you are righttttttt!!!
I suspect the car I saw that day is long gone. There is a brand new car in the driveway. I suspect, if that was Haleigh, that that particular car was sold, crushed, or plain gotten rid of immediately.
I can’t seem to find my email with the exact address of all of the sightings. I do have the dates & times but I need the addresses.. Can you guys help? There is the Goodwill, the tiger express, mine, then Carraba’s, trucker, Ma wal-mart, and 1 other that was unreported to LE. I’m trying to make a google map of the suspected pattern of movement to hand to my contact.
Please see the Link posted in my 9:34 p.m. on 1-25-10, It is a Link to an article from MyFox – Orlando, Fl.
The article states that Misty Croslin’s bond has been reduced to $500,000.
Does anyone know if that is correct or is it an error? I have checked other TV Stations in Florida and do not see that they are reporting this.
If anyone knows, I would appreciate a reply. Thank you.
Jan and Simon, do you know? T. J. Hart, do you know?
Justice!!! Please help me…I need the exact address of all the sighting places. Can you help with that. It’s pretty important.
You people will think I’m crazy. I have no proof of anything. Who in that family is strong enough, if they felt things weren’t right for Haleigh, would get something done about it?
Hollys…I’m so sorry for your loss. I can’t imagine how awful that would be. Of course it wasn’t your fault at all.
Re my kitty, his name was Zachary and I adored him and miss him like crazy. He also had a best friend kitty (Benji) missing him a lot.
When I listen to the 911 call, I’m convinced Ron was being genuine, and based on everything else I have seen and heard, I believe he adored Haleigh, and doubt he’d continue to associate with Misty if he believed she did anything to her.
I can’t help but worry that LE have given the real perp a ticket to freedom by throwing so much focus onto Misty…if it wasn’t her, the real perp must be smirking away somewhere, and that really bothers me.
I have my suspicions Karon. I goota go get that info….I just know it’s important….
Karon, me, justice…can each of you bring me a report on the addresses of the sightings….I can do it but it will take much longer…
Justice…thx so much for that! I’ll check out their websites to see if I can figure out their next court appearances.
CathyJo63;
Are you still here? Can you get me some of this info? I know you have a lot of information about this case. I’d really really appreciate it!
Will the REAL LFlorida stand up?I don’t believe that is LFlorida posting to Koollook. No,I don’t,mm mm Nope.LOL
gosh Holly,and now ya leaveeeeee!!!!!
Yall are killing me!!!!!!!
Justice…I just checked St John’s County inmate records and only bring up Tommy, but can’t find a record for Misty being there. Do we know where her bail info was originally posted, Putnam, St johns etc?
Nope…didn’t leave jumping back and forth….I have the Goodwill in NC, skip one then mine in N FL APril 04, Carraba’s Rest Knoxvill TN, Tiger Express Augusta GA,. I need the one in between Goodwill and mine. It might have been the Tiger Express one but am unsure.
There should be two after the Tiger Express. I’m not sure the Wal-mart one is included in the list I have been working with.
I just found Misty’s record at St John’s…it’s under the name Cummings, not Croslin. It has her bond at $150 000, and the other charges are Putnam County charges, but I can’t find records of her on their jail site or their court records site, so don’t know how we figure out her bonds there (but I think it was all posted at some point because people were referring to it).
Hello…anybody home? No one wants to help me?
Who came by there that night and may have really realized how bad things were getting?
I posted those over in your place Holly’s!
did yall go see that video I posted,Sommin ain’t right here….It’s like Crysatal has problem’s talking and Marie starts fidgeting badddd!!!
HGM:
I have an appointment for lab early in the morning. I am sorry, but I am so sleepy, I can’t think straight. I said while ago I was going to bed, and I really have to turn in, now.
Now I’m all skeptical…….Oh sorry Holly’s,I am trying to help….promise!!!!
Carefully about the names….some have twitter alerts everytime it is mentioned 😉 Another good reason to be “working” at night lol
This is what I have so far…..
Goodwill Feb 10 2009 NC
Carraba’s Knoxville TN Feb 12
? Feb 15
Winn-Dixie Crestview FL April 04 2009
GA April unknown date
Augusta GA April 28
Wal-mart
Trucker? unknown location & date.
Gotta be gone for just a few minutes but will be back. Gotta do the hotel audit fortonight. It takes about 15 minutes. If anyone knows or can get me the addresses for those sightings, I’d really appreciate it.
Goodwill I can find easily again, Carrabba’s & Tiger Express also. The other three is what need.
Addresses for sightings that occurred after April 4th….
sorry Holly’s,I didn’t think about names……but guy’s,am I the only one who thinks this video is messed up??
I have to leave at 8 am too karon but I aint going to bed now,I’ll never get up…LoL
I’m running and jumping from site to site!
That video is disturbing me now for some reason!
Cathyjo…what video are you referring to?
Hollys…sorry I’ve not been any help…I haven’t kept track of the sitings at all.
Karon…GM or GGM? I think GGM would have thrown Misty out on her butt if she suspected her of mistreating Haleigh!
If you have time watch it and then give me your honest opinion!
Me either Me,
don’t know why but I’ve never even read about a sighting!!! hmmmm
HaLeigh Cummings sighting and suspicious activity not investigated by any law enforcement
New information on two South Carolina HaLeigh incidents suggest Putnam County Sheriff’s Department press releases contain false information
East Grand Forks, MN, October 14, 2009: Further investigation into two police reports filed regarding missing child HaLeigh Cummings reveals disturbing discrepancies in what has been reported to the media by law enforcement. On October 13, the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department issued a press release that stated in part: “Recently, two sightings — one each in Georgia and South Carolina — were reported. There was videotape evidence for one of the sightings. However, the girl in the video was confirmed to be someone other than HaLeigh Cummings,” the press release said. On October 14, Write Into Action contacted both the Goodwill Emporium, North Augusta, South Carolina, and the Tiger Express Gas Station, Brunson, South Carolina, regarding a HaLeigh sighting and suspicious activity at those businesses. Police reports were filed to law enforcement by a Georgia woman living close to the South Carolina border who provided detailed information. Neither business had ever been contacted by any law enforcement, nor was any video requested. Brian Grady, management, Goodwill Emporium, said he was not aware of anything whatsoever. “I called the police department [in North Augusta] and they weren’t aware of anything,” Grady said, somewhat confused. On February 10, 2009, the day HaLeigh Cummings disappeared, a customer at Grady’s business reported seeing two women and a man purchasing shoes and clothes for a child named “HaLeigh.” One of the customers told the cashier she had just been approved to provide foster care and was going to be taking a relative’s child who had special needs. Grady said some his stores have cameras but no video was requested of him. “I know who you’re talking about because I watch the news,” he said. A detailed sighting of HaLeigh Cummings at the Tiger Express in Brunson on April 26 was also reported to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department. Marlene Fail, shift manager, Tiger Express, said, “No, we haven’t heard anything.” Fail said Tiger Express has surveillance cameras but no video was ever requested and they had not been contacted by any law enforcement.
What??? Are you guys serious? I’ll post the link to my sighting back in April….Mine is one of 7.
I guess I just assumed??? that it was a case like Caylee,that’s what i get for assuming!!
I had posted it there to be a firm record of what i saw, when I saw it and it has already paid off BIG TIME! There are more. Some of the people who have had them have insisted that they were not checked out by LE. They contacted store manager and the tapes were never even asked for….
Several of these people have gotten together to compare notes and they contacted me as well. We have been working together to see if there is a pattern. We suspect that the sightings might have been used to keep Haleigh one step ahead of LE. If they weren’t checked out, there IS a reason why.
Plus Kim Picazio called me herself about the sighting. I still have the phone that she called and that I called her right back on.
OMG,GO TO THAT SITE….i am blown away,hidden lead’s…..secret’s,staged scene………i never saw this before………
Cathy….TH’s site? Yes, there is a lot of very strange happenings within this case. I have spoken with Gunny’s trainer, for about 2 hrs actually. There is something to it.
http://www.wftv.com/news/18757844/detail.html
“Eyewitness News has confirmed that a woman called 911 in Knoxville, Tennessee a few days ago to report a possible Haliegh sighting. The woman told police she saw a man shielding a little girl’s face who looked like Haleigh while getting into an SUV.”
The SUV in question was a red RAV 4. Someone associated also drives a red Rav 4….
Holly’s….OMG,I am in shock!!!!!!!!!!
A certain rev familiar from another popular case????
Right Holly,I dunno how I found this but TG i did,I am gonna read it top to bottom! Who would give her shoe’s away??? I am numb!!!
Goodwill Emporium, North Augusta, South Carolina, Feb 10
Winn-Dixie Crestview FL April 4
Tiger Express Gas Station, Brunson, South Carolina Feb April 26
OMG,I may have been wrong the whole timeeeeeee,
I’ll gladly accept it!!!!!!!
Item’s that were never reported,evidence!Sorry but I am freakin..as Misty say’s!!
CathyJo63; Not sure about the rev, but a certain son of a man who impersonated an FBI officer does.
There is so many more details to be learned by talking to Gunny’s trainer too. She was NOT in on the fake search! She was already associated with the family as an emotional response dog to Jr. She had been working with them for about 2 weeks and then suddenly one day the tell her they got a tip from a psychic about Haleigh and could Gunny scent her out. She told them that Gunny wasn’t trained for that but could definately scent her off of an item and that he could hear for long distances in cases where someone is hurt and can’t get up. Soooo much….I can’t say here.
Holly’s,so I been chatting with an almost famous person/hero and never knew it.you lil sneak you!!!!!!!!!!
I believe that if it was Haleigh I saw, she was on her way home for Easter. It was the saturday before Palm Sunday. There wa also a party held in April that was supposed to be for Crystal’s birthday….only her birthday is in another month….August maybe?
I understand!!!!!! I wouldn’t risk it either!!!
Cathy;
You’re making me blush….Not any hero, just really have got to know the truth. Sometimes I get sidetracked by the hoopla but in the end, it really is all about Haleigh. I hope that we are right.
If we can connect the “right people” we might just have a chance….
I will talk more in the “closed” forum….
The other sighting at Tiger Express was the same Rav 4
Ok I gotta go make breakfast for the patrons….I’ll be back in an hour…cathyJo;
Meet you at FF1
good morning everyone, i was asking on another thread if misty and ronald remarried due to misty having cummings as her last name in court. and she is listed under cummings for her arrest records. i believe it was tobias who pointed out she probably never bothered to change her drivers license or social etc.
i did find their divorce paper online. it is in the divore paper
#10 Wife is requesting her maiden name be restored to MISTY JANETTE CROSLIN.
c.) Restore Wife’s name to Misty Janette Croslin:
so i guess tobias is probably correct. she probably did not change drivers license. or at some point they remarried.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/10/16/petition.for.disollution.of.marriage.pdf
OMG Holly’s AH & KP Paid it for her,I cannot beleieve this,I am buried in this site right now and excited too….I gotta leave here by 7 but i know where my nose will be buried this evening!!
okay for people who understand legal documents it is in the dissolution of marriage but i don’t see it in the settelment agreement. so is her name cummings or croslin? tia
joint petition of dissolution of marriage
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/10/16/petition.for.disollution.of.marriage.pdf
marital settelment agreement
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/10/16/marital.settlement.agreement.pdf
I’ll leave you more info @ FF1
wow the turn this conversation took overnight! Good morning, all, anything new this am?
Good morning, DramaQueen! I surfed the net a bit and did not see anything new yet. I guess we have to keep praying.
m2c, and waiting patiently, as we have been doing for almost a year now. Good morning.
Me said – Get your head out of the clouds. Ron Cummings and those close to him who were responsible for two children’s lives were HIGH ON DRUGS ALL THE TIME. You can’t be high on drugs and take care of children. You can’t sell drugs and not expect to be around people who would hurt your children. Haleigh Cummings and Ron Jr. were obviously NEGLECTED NEGLECTED NEGLECTED!!!! That’s how I can type what I typed. Get a clue. I feel bad for TN, but you and her need to stop holding RC’s hand. This article is not about Tim Miller. I can say the things I am saying, because it breaks my heart every time I hear a sad story like this that did not have to happen. I’m not the bad guy here, so find another arse to ride.
By the way… I can’t find any information on the internet to support you saying that Tim Miller was a drug dealer or did drugs. I found a person in California also named Tim Miller who was a drug dealer turned CEO, but the Tim Miller we are talking about is from Texas. This is how a father acts when his daughter goes missing. http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/forensics/texas_equusearch/3.html
Hi, DramaQueen:
I think we’re at the point where it’s one of two things:
1) One of the people we know (presumably one of the people in jail right now) is responsible OR knows something. If that’s so then we pray he/she/whomever talks and it leads to finding out what happened to Haleigh.
OR
2) None of them know anything or anything of substance and this is where the whole case stops. If that is so, then those who think the person is responsible is in jail now, will be satisfied (to a certain extent). But those who would like some evidence/proof in order to be more certain of blaming the right person, will be left to wonder.
All I feel I can do is pray for #1 because LE is not going to pursue #2 now or ever no matter what (IMO)
I hate to interrupt Haleigh’s thread but everyone, please, go to Jan’s article about Aja Johnson. Her Father is pleading & crying for someone, anyone to help him….It’s so sad….Can we make an effort for him?
I should add that I’m trying to keep my chin up so to speak by holding on to what I perceive to be TJ’s position on it. Although he can’t say much of course he seems optimistic.
So picture me bobbing around in the ocean clinging to a life ring with TJ’s initials on it! LOL!
HollysGmom, I have sent an email regarding her disappearance to all in my address book and I will do it again, the stepfather looks like a rough character and I am really afraid for the child. We recently lost one baby here in VA that his stepfather reported asd kidnapped, Aveion Lewis. The stepfather is being charged although no body has yet been recovered.
I’ve come to the point where I can no longer care so much about these cases that I spend any time what so ever posting any comments. I refuse to be silenced by anyone or any website. I will always and forever pray for the missing and those who suffer because of another person’s negligence or evil endeavors. The media has become just another source of betrayal, and I refuse to be its puppet. So long forever!
Hi, DramaQueen!
You may have seen them already but Jan did write two articles about Aveion. One on Jan 15 (article # 123538) and another on 1/21 (article 123600).
From what I’ve read recently it looks like the step dad is or may be responsible but I have not read about a confession or proof of that, have you?
I wonder if we will ever get to hear Donna Brocks tapes?From what I heard Misty and Ron were rehearsing what they would say on interviews and laughing in them. The tapes may be illegally taped but I would like to hear what these 3 were up to. jmo
I wonder if LE is able to get a license plate number for the Rav 4 off the video surviellance.
Also being poor and coming from a disfunctional family does not make you do drugs or sell drugs. People who came from rich familys(hollywood) and good families do drugs and sell them, it is reported all the time. They make the choice because they dont think they will get caught. Poor people do it because its better money than working 8-10 hour at minimum wage jobs and they feel its quick and easy money and when they get caught the excuse is because they are poor and uneducated and their parents were abusive. Hey what else can they say? I was too lazy to work for my money and it was easir to do this? Of course not when that wouldnt get sympathy from anyone who will help them get out of trouble. jmo
I wonder if GGM Sykes was really there at 7 like she said or were the clothes there from the morning trip before school. Did she perhaps lie to help Ron and Mistys time line?
Just makes you wonder how much covering was done, did anyone in the area say they saw her car there at that time( like the nieghbor who saw the kids out playing earlier?) jmo
Well, I’ve been thinking, it really would be a shame if it were to turn out that all the hell broke loose just when Ron was starting to grow up and get his act together. But, now it does look like he really has been dealing drugs the whole time, doesn’t it? It would be very nice to find out, I think, that his going to jail was the price of getting his daughter home, and he knew it. Unfortunately, at this point, that doesn’t seem likely to happen. Let’s hope Crystal does better, and Junior is safe and happy.
Tobias said,in January 26th, 2010 at 11:26 am I wonder if we will ever get to hear Donna Brocks tapes?From what I heard Misty and Ron were rehearsing what they would say on interviews and laughing in them. The tapes may be illegally taped but I would like to hear what these 3 were up to. jmo
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Tobias,
The tapes were discussed on Steph Watts BlogTalkRadio show on Sunday (24th), you should be able to go back and listen to the show.
It was NOT Misty and Ron supposedly rehearsing what they would say to LE. It’s claimed that it was Misty, another unidentified female and Donna Brock.
Donna Brock was secretly taping everybody.
Ron is NOT on the tapes.
An interesting show, but very little detail IMO
Noreen, I did listen to Watts and the woman said Ron was on the tapes but the way he talks made it hard to understand some of what he is saying. jmo
Steph Watts blog site
http://stephww.wordpress.com/
Steph Watts BTR show regarding the Donna Brock tapes
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this
One thing in that show that came out was that Ron and Misty were together at Christmas in Orlando with Donna Brock. Ron must have went to talk to Haleigh in Orlando? jmo
QUOTING HGMA:
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LFlorida:
This is going too far!! i’M GONNA START “OUTTING FAMILY MEMBERS IF THIS DOESN’T STOP!!!
thIS BASHING OF PEOPLE WHO DON’T AGREE WITH THE rON SUPPORTERS NEEDS TO STOP.
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What are you talking about?! I didn’t bash anybody – at least I wasn’t intending to.
What???!
Sorry to sound snarky but TN said after they opened presents Ron wanted to go off alone to talk to Haleigh. Yeah in Orlando with Misty and Donna doing who knows what. jmo
Tobias, She said it was Misty, an unidentified female and Donna Brock on the tape where all the laughing and giggling occurred, she said it seemed that Donna was coaching Misty on what to say if she was interviewed by LE.
Jacques claims she heard several tapes, Donna Brock has supposedly recorded all her conversations with Misty, not just one or two, but all of them over a period of months.
Although Steph tried to get Jacques to be more specific about what she heard, she wouldn’t, or didn’t say, she was very, very vague.
LfLORIDA, WHAT ARE YOU POSTING AND WHY?
I know you’re not being snarky Tobias, I didn’t take it that way.
I was surprised also that Ron was in Orlando at Christmas.
(Might want to Just ignore me – I am having problems following the convos) 😉
Cathy wrote this above:
OMG Holly’s AH & KP Paid it for her,I cannot beleieve this,I am buried in this site right now and excited too….I gotta leave here by 7 but i know where my nose will be buried this evening!!
>>>>> What did AH and KP pay for? <<<<<<
Sorry to bother y’all, but I was trying to understand without having to bug y’all.
I think she was just not wanting to say too much because she does not have the tapes to back up what she could say and may get into legal trouble. I believe she could say alot if it wouldnt get her in trouble. I am sure by the tone and emotion in what she did say that its horrible what she heard. jmo
Tobias – sorry I’m not even sure what I’m posting. I thought I was quoting an earlier post by Holly’s Grandma where she was talking to me, but now I have no idea. I need glasses or a better computer screen or something.
She did sound distressed, and you’re correct, a slander suit would not be pleasant.
TM said LE had heard some of the tapes and advised DB to destroy them.
What is meant by talking to Haleigh? You mean like she is dead, like some people do?
What is all this about tapes? Why wouldn’t it be on the news? I have been watching.
My sound card is dead.
Good morning everybody, trying to catch up here.
I didn’t necessarily believe Ron was there Christmas. Do yall think that is true? Nothing she says seems true to me. Aren’t we talking about the actress, the fake mommy? A stoned one, popping pills while on an undercover job?? lol. I am making fun, but not at yall, just laughing at this woman, the road raging mom!! ha ha
The tapes were from Donna Brock and they were illegally taped so she was told by LEand TM to destroy them. She did not do that she called other people trying to sell them and to a woman she was trying to get to back her up. This woman didnt want involved after she heard the tapes and what Donna was up to.
At the Dec. 10 vigil TN told reporters that Ron was spending time with family opening presents but asked for time to be alone so he could go and talk to Haleigh. I guess she was infering he was alone with his thoughts. But now we are finding out he was with Misty and Donna Brock in Orlando. jmo
Thanks, Tobias!
Hi Treece,
I truly don’t know what to believe anymore.
I will admit Jacques Hollender told us nothing really, all hearsay, no major revelations.
I just wish LE would hurry up and find Haleigh, bring her home safe and sound.
Go back and look at the Dec. 10 vigil video. I always wondered why Ron had on his fancy suit and diamond earing. Now we know he was gonna go out to party with Misty. in my opinion
tobias, Dec 10th is 2 weeks from Christmas, do you think this is the same time? DO you believe that lady? I listened to her and she didn’t really say anything, skirted every question, went off on tangents. I didn’t put any faith in anything she said. Also, if it is true and they had smoked pot they would have been silly and laughing no matter what, especially if they were playing a game or acting like they were rehearsing. Pot smokers can just get silly. I am not arguing, just want to know what you think?
one more thing, then i have to leave for awhile.
Ron didn’t like or trust Donna, called Misty to say I told you so, she’s not your friend. But then you think he was with her Christmas and talking so she could record him?? She is too fishy to me.
Noreen, hello, ditto!!! I don’t know what to think either. Will be back later. Hope you all have a good day.
What I believe is that Donna was making the tapes to cash in on this. And yeah she did it without Ron and Misty knowing it. I think she did alot of things just to get the scoup on them. I think she just went way over board and sold drugs with them too.She started out honest and then saw dollar signs. jmo
Sorry the video was of TN right after christmas. Not the vigil.
Jacques Hollander revealed a whole lot, IMO. She gave the ‘big picture’, not the details.
Jacques didn’t have any pre-conceved notions of the players, she hadn’t followed the case.
She retained an overall impression of what she heard on the tapes, instead of specific comments.
People familiar with the players before hearing the tapes would not need to focus on making sense of the whole story, but could instead pay attention to specific comments, and store those in their long term memory.
From what Jacques said, seems to me the specific words of Donna, Ronald, Misty, didn’t make it to long term memory storage because she was focused on getting the ‘big picture’, of a case that she had little previous information about.
We can’t retain everything we hear; most goes into short term memory and is dropped.
Jacques committed to her long term memory the overall, ‘big picture’,, and what she related on the show is revealing.
Jacques Hollander can’t repeat verbatim what she heard on the tapes, to expect her to do so is unrealistic.
She listened, she retained what she could, which is the overall ‘big picture’.
She retained the big picture, instead of numerous specific comments.
I thank her.
Jason, You are correct. Did you get the feeling that she didnt think Haleigh was alive and that these 2 did it? jmo
I am lost as to who this Jacques Hollander is. Can anyone tell me?
5oclock – She knows Donna B
Blue Moon said,in January 26th, 2010 at 2:08 pm 5oclock – She knows Donna B
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Yes but idk what i am asking? LOL
I’ll have to re-listen to be sure on that, Tobias, but I do recall she seemed very distraught about Misty laughing while they were talking about Haleigh. That seemed to really bother her, her voice dropped lower, it seemed difficult for to relate about Misty laughing, as though she were rehearing it in her mind at the moment she related it.
How and when did this Jacques Hollander come into this pic? I new she new Misty. How long has she been in this circus. Seems theres more and more people coming out of the woodwork.IMO
She is a high profile defending attorney.
Donna B. was trying to get to be friends with her in facebook or her myspace and then started calling her for advice. JH I THINK JUST GOT CURIOUS BUT TOLD dONNA SHE WAS ALREADY BUSY WITH ANOTHER CASE AND DIDNT HAVE TIME TO GET INVOLVED. SORRY KEYBOARDS MWSSEN UP MOO BBL
Jason, I know we all get different impressions and many times judge things by how we would react so I am speaking here from the way I would behave. If I cared enough to stay on the phone with someone for 24 hrs during the holidays it would have to have a huge meaning to me. To be careful that I remembered and kept everything straight I would have taken tons of notes. I would have hundreds of specific quotes. Her general feelings of the call were based on Misty’s laughing and playing around. Again, I say I have seen many girls act like that from smoking pot. Pot makes alot of people giddy and they laugh at everything even stupid stuff. The funniness is rarely what is said but someone’s face or expression that cracks them up. I might be totally wrong but that interview was a joke to me. I think the gal knows Donna, has a bone to pick with her or just wants some media attention. From the comments on the chat I don’t even think Steph thought the info was of any value. JMO and food for thought.
Hollys Gmom said,in January 26th, 2010 at 5:02 am Goodwill Emporium, North Augusta, South Carolina, Feb 10
Winn-Dixie Crestview FL April 4
Tiger Express Gas Station, Brunson, South Carolina Feb April 26
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I live about 15 miles from Crestview, FL and was in that Winn Dixie this weekend and know the address.
Five o’clock,
Jacque talked with Steph Watts, Tim Miller a few days ago:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/01/25/watts-up-with-this
It was stated that the tapes were illegal because they didnt know they were being taped so they cant be used in court, thats why they feel they are not important not because of their content . jmo
Jacque Hollander makes it clear she never had a friendship with Donna Brock.
Donna sought Jacque, found her at her Facebook account (opened around Thanksgiving).
Donna initiated contact with Jacque, and sent Jacque her phone number.
Jacque’s Web site:
http://www.jacquehollander.com/
Jacque on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacque-Hollander/794534547
Tobias,
Yes, that’s right – illegal taping. Jacque posted on Steph’s blog that police contacted her since the Steph radio show the other day.
3rd concealed evidence!
If all this is true and ppl I trust 100% tell me it is but you won’t believe how wrong some of us,ESPECCIALLY ME has been!
And if its proven they should get as much time as the 5 or longer!!!! IMO
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=floodofnoah#p/u/6/TWXb0Nf7Vdg
Her shoes were given away!!!
Me and treece and myself prolly agree on alot we didn’t last night.new day!!!LoL
Tobias,
A few times, Steph Watts was trying too hard, even demanding, specific statements from Jacque about what she heard.
I wished he would have just let her talk instead of interrupting, trying to please people asking questions in the chat.
i just caught that,not the other ME ..just myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LoL how wrong i have been!! Sorry Me!!
Tobias,
Steph said Donna played some of the tapes for Levi Page, and that Levi was going to talk about that on his show.
I didn’t listen to Levi’s show, have you?
In response to Anne in Tennesse’s question, Jacque said that Misty laughed while they were talking about Haleigh being gone.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=floodofnoah#p/play/uploads/7/sf20IPghEZ4
She sure has large hairy hands!!!
Kat,
No need to be so rude. I do have a clue. And I know that unless you were with Ron & Misty 24/7 you are spreading gossip as you couldn’t possibly know what you claim.
As for accusing me of making things up re Tim and cocaine, you might want to read his interview in the september orlando magazine.
One caller (called herself Misty) sounded mad because she wanted more, more, more than what Jacque had.
I’ll tell you, Jacque has some information, but not all the answers. I’m grateful for what she has made available.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vx-_3bfO8g&feature=related
Strong Language
Why isn’t anyone waxing Steph Watts for waiting until AFTER Misty completed that TV interview in NY, to alert the police and TM regarding Donna and those drugs!! Yet, Art is vilified for his role?
Jacque sure is a beautiful woman, very pretty. She has a nice voice, speaks very well.
Haleigh.Happy in a better home??http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CJb6-UZ8c4
looking for something specific.brb
Well well she taped alot of people who may not want those tapes released and aired. Seem some of the people on that show were taped without knowing it too. jmo
I imagine because Art posted false pix,etc….I can’t prove that but that’s why!!BeautAdam!
treece….I say jacques was all bs. Pretending she had never heard of Haleigh’s case…yeah, right.
Cathy,
You could be right, I don’t know… I just hate this double standards stuff.
There’s so much I never knew existed,ton’s and I am flabbergasted!! These ppl need more time than anybody else for hiding the truth in a little girl’s missing case,OMG!!!
She was involved defending a case at the time so its likely she didnt have time to see any coverage on Haleigh. And besides Nancy grace and Jane v M. ITS NOT REALLY OUT THERE IN THE MEDIA.JMO
You’d have to live over the moon not to have heard Haleigh’s story!!!!!!! That’s pure BS! I don’t care who said it! That’s like Clinton not inhaling.rofl!
me @3:36
I am with you. It’s so crazy now… everyone has a story relating to this case. I thought LE was NOT happy with Donna participating in undercover Mama. Now it’s said LE condoned the charade and used DB for Info??
Tobias…she is not an attorney!!! Goodness, where did you get that from? She claims to have met DB playing farmville on facebook, claims to be a rape victim and calls herself “high profile”. Just another person after her 15 minutes. It was clear Steph didn’t believe her and he said something about next time he will do a pre-interview before allowing people like her on the show.
you and me Adam’s,It’s Haleigh I want the truth for,not a single one of them!!!filling their billfold’s with her life…ohhhhhhhNo!
scum!! when I read her shoes were given away,OMG it took my breath right out of me!and especially the person who gave them away!
Cathy,
So many billfolds are open and waiting to receive. It’s freaking disgusting and disturbing.
I have my late husband’s favorite clothe’s,shoes…etc…it’s been over 6 year’s,no way could I get rid of them and I know for a fact he won’t be back here!!
But still they give me comfort!!
sORRY i JUST LISTENED AGAIN SHE IS A SINGER SONG WRITER WHO IS FRIENDS WITH sTEPH.
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in January 26th, 2010 at 3:42 pm me @3:36
I am with you. It’s so crazy now… everyone has a story relating to this case. I thought LE was NOT happy with Donna participating in undercover Mama. Now it’s said LE condoned the charade and used DB for Info??
you got a point there Adams,a good one!!!! They all should be sent off for life themselves!
mE, First time to hear you bash a rape victim.
maybe she was asked to come on and tell what she knew? I dont believe she inserted herself into this. jmo
dunno what this one is but interesting,maybe!
Go to Baker County Clerk in Florida, put in Griffis comma Chad. Be Sure to put in last name comma then first or it will not come up. The order is a transfer, so all it says is that there was an order for violence on children for two years 2006-2008, I ordered a copy of the actual order which they do not show online and I will have it in a few days. Still, you can look it up and see it was in place for two years.
She could have retaped what she was hearing if she was trying to insert herself. jmo
brb find something!
what is your opinions on the cs and mg video by sheppard?
Cathy, We all know about Chads problems with his ex wife and that she hid the kids out. And when they finally found them Chad got custody. jmo
Looks like I am going to have to go Its not about Crystal anymore. LE has evidence on Misty and RON and they only need one piece to the puzzle to solve this. Some bloggers refuse to believe Crystal didnt have anything to do with Haleigh disappearing. jmo
No one would know ANYTHING about her “knowing” anything if she NEVER opened her mouth and told ANYONE that she “heard” the tapes. Therefore she wouldn’t been asked to come on the show. I believe she inserted herself, Donna didn’t force her ears to listen to the tapes. She could have said I am not interested in listening, just go to LE with them.
Most people have never heard of the Cummings and Croslins from Satsuma, Florida.
Most people don’t know Satsuma is a small town, and don’t know there is a county in Florida named Putnam.
Most people don’t watch Nancy Grace, never heard of Art Harris, BNN, Web Sleuths, Scared Monkeys.
Most people do not know a 5 year old named Haleigh Cummings is missing.
what is the city mg and cs lives in??
cent, that’s right. I mean it’s not like a singer, songwriter who views herself as “high profile” would actually SEEK publicity, right?
(lol!)
Tobias said,in January 26th, 2010 at 3:54 pm She could have retaped what she was hearing if she was trying to insert herself. jmo
They said Ron’s voice wasn’t clear,who know’s,maybe she added a diff guy voice,nothing surprises me now!!
I’m with you, Tobias. Will check back later.
Tobias, where are you getting this stuff from? She wasn’t defending a case. She’s a fruit loop who was apparently declared a frivolous litigant by the courts. She claims that James Brown raped her 20 years ago and stole some of her property, which the Estate sold. She is trying to appear in the James Brown’s estate proceedings.
Blog sites are not going to get ou publicity lol
Tobias,I was pasting because these thing’s I haven’t seen before either…. so some others wanted the info too!
Sorry but I didn’t know that,and I have posted lot’s of info!
To go back to the emergency hearing, they probably did that so Jr wouldn’t have to get processed into the system and go to foster care, once that happens it is extremely hard and a long process to get the child out. With as bad as some of these people may seem, being in a foster home or group home can be worse. Some foster parents are in it for the money and with this being a high profile case, who knows? I don’t think throwing Jr into the system would help him at all, in fact losing his sister, now his family that he spends all the time with, and ending up with his mother he rarely sees, is hard enough. If there was NO stability he would just end up with more of a risk of being just like his drug addicted family members. I’m sure Chrystal knew something was up and maybe the lawyers had all of that ready in waiting until something happened. Certain drugs stay in the system quite a while, even in the urine. They usually have labs in the court houses that do DNA sampling so I can imagine they have quick urine dipstick tests handy, you can even buy those in the pharmacy. Hair testing would give a more accurate picture of the last 3 months but it is expensive. I think we should send our positive thoughts and wishes to Jr that it does turn out good with his mother instead of negatively bashing her and being so outraged. All the negativity that is put out there collects and that is one thing this child doesn’t need right now. I feel he is the only survivor from that house of the two children. They may have saved him in the nick of time.
Isaid above that I mistook her for her attorney lol
Jacque Hollander tried to sue James Brown’s estate for $106 million dollars and her claims were apparently declared “frivolous” by a California Court.
And, of course, she waited til he died before she made the crazy allegations even though it supposedly happened in 1988.
Tobias said,in January 26th, 2010 at 4:00 pm Looks like I am going to have to go Its not about Crystal anymore. LE has evidence on Misty and RON and they only need one piece to the puzzle to solve this. Some bloggers refuse to believe Crystal didnt have anything to do with Haleigh disappearing. jmo
Again Tobias,
none of have the same opinion…..surely you don’t expect to participate only if C is or isn’t involved! As i see it now,we still don’t know the truth!! Iam not being mean but I’m saying we ain’t alway’s gonna agree!
Gosh, I thought the rumormongering would slow down if not stop after the arrests but there’s heaps of new sludge seeping out the pipes now. Unbelievable.
I don’t know this woman, therefore I do not know her personal tragedies, and I will not discuss them, it’s not my place. All I’m saying is, not everyone involved, whether it be self insertion or not, are on the UP and UP.
Tobias,
I didn’t bash a rape victim. Her claims were thrown out of Court. You shouldn’t convict a dead man like you have, particularly when someone makes crazy allegations about them after they die and they can’t defend themselves. Perhaps you can tell me why she waited til he died to cry rape when she claims it happened in 1988?
CathyJo…I was aware of that order….good for you for ordering it! I’m looking forward to you sharing the details!
Tobias said,in January 26th, 2010 at 3:54 pm She could have retaped what she was hearing if she was trying to insert herself. jmo
CathyJo63 said,in January 26th, 2010 at 4:07 pm Tobias said,in January 26th, 2010 at 3:54 pm She could have retaped what she was hearing if she was trying to insert herself. jmo
They said Ron’s voice wasn’t clear,who know’s,maybe she added a diff guy voice,nothing surprises me now!!
did not once say he wasn’t on the tape,just that it wouldn’t surprise me after 2day!
I was being fair,wouldn’t surprise me now who is involved! At all!!!
Just meant there are alot of fraud’s in it!
Tobias, Chad has never been given custody of his kids by a Court….you can check the records for yourself. His ex had a violence order out against him protecting herself and the children.
I didn’t order it,I’m not an idiot!
I brought it from the hidden lead’s!!
CathyJo63 said,in January 26th, 2010 at 3:53 pm >>>>dunno what this one is but interesting,maybe!<<<<<<
Go to Baker County Clerk in Florida, put in Griffis comma Chad. Be Sure to put in last name comma then first or it will not come up. The order is a transfer, so all it says is that there was an order for violence on children for two years 2006-2008, I ordered a copy of the actual order which they do not show online and I will have it in a few days. Still, you can look it up and see it was in place for two years.
cent good point at 4:00
Cathy Jo – LOL – Clinton not inhaling –
Yes, me and me & myself & you and Yourself understood each other last night – ha ha
LoL But I do have a subscription that I can,,,LoL
Not that big of a nut,a nut maybe…LoL BUT NOT ENOUGH TO PAY!
CathyJo63 said,in January 26th, 2010 at 3:55 pm brb find something!
what is your opinions on the cs and mg video by sheppard?
Can you give me link for the video?? Please and Thank you!
LoL,Treece Right,we can be civil even if we break skin first! LoL
Tobias, @4:00
What evidence IS there, that HAS been released to the public THAT LE HAS that PROVES that Ron AND Misty did something to Haleigh. Keep in mind I’m not asking for OUR own personal beliefs/theories/thoughts. Just because they have been arrested regarding drugs is NOT evidence of Haleigh’s disappearance.
Also, I DO NOT believe that Crystal is involved, and I have stated over and over again that IF Ron and Misty are the culprits, I don’t think it was intentional. In other words their “lifestyles” could have played a part in this case.
LOL!!! Jacques Hollander also claims that james brown told her his wishes for his estate in 1988 and she is trying to get herself into the case on that basis…guess he did it while he was raping her??…lol. She claims to have secret tapes of him! Sounds like a woman with some serious issues who tries to insert herself into any case she can. No wonder the court declared her frivolous.
My ex-mother n law told everybody she slept with Elvis…..LoL
me said,
in January 26th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
LOL!!! Jacques Hollander also claims that james brown told her his wishes for his estate in 1988 and she is trying to get herself into the case on that basis…guess he did it while he was raping her??…lol. She claims to have secret tapes of him! Sounds like a woman with some serious issues who tries to insert herself into any case she can. No wonder the court declared her frivolous.
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If this is true WHO would believe her about anything? and more tapes at that???
Cathy that video regaurding CS and MG im wondering if you got a link so i can go watch it im wondering if it is the same interveiw where crystal looks at marie like she doesnt know what to say???
From what I can see, when she failed at getting $106 million from the Estate, she then claimed james brown told her she didn’t want his kids to have any of his money. She says the reason she didn’t raise this til after the Estate had settled was because she hadn’t heard about the case before that. So glad the court threw her out….she must have caused such pain for his widow and children.
Has anyone looked at JH’s website? My eyes are still burning, I have to agree now that she is a fruit loop. At first listening, she sound fairly normal. Not too sure now.
And even so this is my opinion,
If what we are seeing and hearing now is true,then that’s one heck of a hellish way for someone to gain custody by setting other’s up!!
Cruel,sure they made mistake’s,no doubt sold and took drug’s IMO but that’s still Haleigh’s life they played with!
I wonder too now? Why the heck would outsider’s pay cs 12,000.oo back child support.
The point is we know there are tapes.
Yes Tanya…..I saw it long ago and it just threw me so I thought well heck surely LE know’s,they have the evidence and cleared that side!
I Didn’t know all these secret’s!
All I’m gonna say about this woman is… No GROWN ASS WOMAN should be photograph holding TWO STUFFED ANIMALS… unless there is significant meaning to them. Yes, my personal belief, yes it’s a bit mean spirited, but I firmly believe in this!!!
CathyJo…I have no idea why the lady paid it. There is no doubt Crystal has done very well financially out of this. 12k is a lot of money. She must have felt sick when she heard about the crack at the house.
JH??
2 Bear’s? Grown woman? where?
Tobias…perhaps you know there are tapes. I don’t believe it for a minute!!
Jacques Hollander = JH, sorry
Yes, the two bears are very odd. Also, randomly thanking the Navy Seals??? WTH? Sorry a little O/T
Wax me all you like for my last comment… just don’t forget my underarms, I like them smooth.
Yes Cathy i did watch that video it has been awhile tho since i watched it! If we are talking about the same video. They ask crystal a question and she freezes looks at her mom and if you look closely you can almost see maries hand squeeze crystals like watch what you say is what i got out of it.
Who knows people who have millions help others all the time. But even giving the money for back support it was given to Ron and he bought a truck with it. jmo
More spin on the estate came to light on April 6, 2009 when a former publicist of James Brown, Jacque Hollander, sued for a stake of the “I Feel Good” trust. Hollander alleges the trust is illusory and the assets from the illusory trust were instead property of a partnership between her and Brown that was established in 1987 and never dissolved. Hollander v. Estate of James Brown (09 CV 2147).
http://www.jdsupra.com/post/documentViewer.aspx?fid=71991729-ec51-42be-bb2c-5d9a79cf211d
Seems like she tried everything she could to get some of James Brown’s money.
Me,apparently so and a lot of ppl no doubt felt bad for her with the seizure’s and all so make’s me wonder now!!!
I do believe that there are tapes… how else was DB gonna prove her claims or get evidence. I just question what is exactly on the tapes!
cent, don’t feel badly. I couldn’t give any credibility to JH after the first few things I heard about her and what she said/didn’t say in the interview. My “WHOA” meter went off the chart right there.
I believe it should have gone into a fund for Junior. jmo
Jacques H could not give any specifics of what she heard at all really on the Steph interview. She kept skirting around answering the questions. He sounded a bit frustrated imo. I just can’t figure out why DB would seek HER out to listen to the tapes?? It makes no sense at all. Why? Because she claims James Brown raped her 3-4 decades ago. What is the relevance?
Jason said,in January 26th, 2010 at 3:21 pm In response to Anne in Tennesse’s question, Jacque said that Misty laughed while they were talking about Haleigh being gone
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I didnt get my quetion answered when i called. There was phone problems on that show.If shes a attorney she sure did beat around the bush alot on that show. And I think watts is gona have another Haleigh show this weekend. Need to check it out.
Blue Moon,
I personally feel that there is a hidden agenda. That’s just my own suspicions, as I said last night, I am HIGHLY suspicious/paranoid.
ANN, shes a singer song writer.
My daughter’s here,gotta run for bit……bbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have never heard any details (true, confirmed) about the woman who paid the 12K back custody payments.
And I have never heard where the money went (for sure).
IF R had been collecting money from the state for the children (since he hadn’t been getting any from CS) then that money would be taken by the state as reimbursement. If R had not gotten any money from the state, then maybe he got it. I don’t know (for sure).
I agree ba(cent)
AnnTN, I thought that was you!! I listened to the interview earlier today.
Blue Moon said,in January 26th, 2010 at 5:09 pm I agree ba(cent)
AnnTN, I thought that was you!! I listened to the interview earlier today
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Yes it was me. Couldnt you not tell …Hillibilly acent I have is a bad southern draw.LOL
I heard her name was Barbara and she was wealthy and lived in Texas. Somewhere it was reported that the money went to Ron for back child support and he bought the pickup with it.
jmo
Aww, me too. LOL
O/T,
looks like they found the remains of missing Morgan Harrington of VA.
New News update.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/22346617/detail.html
M2C, The state does not pay child support it collects then disperses it after they take their cut of course. If the party who owes child support doesnt pay they are in arrears and pay until they are caught up. And thats even after the child turns 18, they pay until its totally paid up. moo
Tobias, I know. That’s what we’ve “heard.” NO confirmation from reliable sources that I know of. That’s all I’m saying.
I asked a dozen times if LE had looked into it to verify that the woman was on the up and up because at that stage of the “investigation” it could have been relevant to Haleigh’s disappearance. I’m hoping LE did check it out
I don’t know where the money ended up at. But I do know that whenever I was fortunate enough to collect for my son, it went into an account that I set up for him.
I will say this… buying/letting others purchase things would be the last thing on my mind if I were R and C.
Tobias, if a mother, for example, has to go on welfare because her husband is not paying child support, then when the state catches up to him OR he pays the back support voluntarily, the State TAKES IT. Or at least the amount equal to what the state shelled out to the mother. Because the state has been supporting the family when his payments should have been.
Hello AnneInTn,
Yes, there was a problem with each call. She responded to your question, but due to the call issues, you may not have been able to hear.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/01/25/watts-up-with-this
His next show about Haleigh is Jan 31.
Where was it reported that Ron was on welfare?
Remember he had ajob and was a better provider.jmo
I love the sound of your voice, Anne. What you might think is a negative twang, is beautiful music.
And Tobias, didn’t we hear about the Sheffields buying a couple of 4-wheelers around that time? Seems like somebody in that family could have helped with at least part of the support payments if they’d wanted to.
It works both ways, Tobias. R is not always at fault or the only one to blame.
Kat fish also has a nice voice. imho
Sorry didnt mean to bash the drug dealer. jmo
Tobias, that was an EXAMPLE! And I understand that the child support had not been paid for several YEARS. I don’t believe that R was employed that whole time. So I was saying that IF he’d been unemployed, he COULD have applied for help from the state, in which case the state would have taken some or all of the back payments.
now… now… they are both rotten apples!
I have known people IN FL receiving both help from the state and getting child support.
I just dont see what Crystal has to do with this anymore. LE has the people they feel had something to do or know what happened to Haleigh. And thats what it is all about. Haleigh. jmo
Tobias, I am sorry but this is unreasonable.
Is no one allowed to try to ask about or discuss issues/facts that might (God forbid) make something NOT Ron’s fault?
I thought all along we were supposed to be trying to get at the truth but by gosh if there’s any possibility that something might NOT drive another nail thru Ron then it’s got to be an insane Ron supporter! That is NOT how one arrives at the truth. That’s not even making an effort to get at the truth.
I just dont see what Crystal has to do with this anymore. LE has the people they feel had something to do or know what happened to Haleigh. And thats what it is all about. Haleigh. jmo
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Totally Agree!! They were the one’s “around”. Crystal was hours away.
Tobias,
Earlier you posted at @ 4:00 and then I posted to you @ 4:33. Could you respond please, that’s only if you want to elaborate. No hard feelings if you don’t, I’m just curious as to what you meant. Thanks
No one here has said anything of the sort. Are you that defensive about Ron or the fact that Crystal is more than likely not guilty of taking Haleigh? moo
Tobias, hate to burst your bubble, but LE have clearly stated that they don’t suspect Crystal or RON of involvement. As for calling him a drug dealer, he’s not been convicted, not even close. And, crack is a far worse drug than prescription meds, but I don’t hear you carrying on about that. I assume you think it’s ok for mothers to have babies born with illegal drugs in their system? Pathetic.
Tobias…I don’t know what your motive is here, but you lost me when you lied about Jacque being a high profile attorney.
me, I don’t think Tobias Lied, more misunderstood. Tobias made the correction shortly thereafter.
me,
yes… what blue said.
The court didn’t even consider who would have custody of Haleigh and Butterbean while Ronald worked.
Twelve hours at work, about 7-8 hours sleeping, a half hour driving, means Ronald could only be with his children, awake, less than four hours a day.
The court should have considered who the children would be with most of the time.
The children were in the custody of Misty or some other un-named babysitter more than they were Ronald, but the court didn’t even consider that.
GMAB…Tobias didn’t say “i think she’s an attorney”…he/she stated it as a fact. And we know it is bs.
LE has stated that there is a piece to the puzzle that will solve the case. TJ refers to this all the time. He also talks to LE so I believe him. Also I believe they have always said Misty is the key. Really it does not matter what we rehash over and over someone is either gonna talk or spend a lot of time in jail. And as far as that goes you can bet your last dollar that at least one of them knows something. jmo
Jason, Crystal admitted to the Court that she didn’t get Haleigh to medical appointments because she couldn’t be bothered getting out of bed. Neither KP nor her new lawyer sought custody of Jr, until the emergency hearing last week. Maybe you should get a law degree and be her lawyer if you think all these other lawyers and the court are so stupid.
GMAB…Tobias didn’t say “i think she’s an attorney”…he/she stated it as a fact. And we know it is bs.
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I don’t know what GMAB means, but why would Tobias say that as a FACT when you can simply google the freak and clearly see she is not an Atty.
me,
What we are saying is yes Tobias said she was an attorney later Tobias said that she misunderstood/heard.
Blue Moon..
GMAB = give me a break
I don’t know why Tobias did that. Perhaps Tobias can explain.
Tobias did not lie, she just mis-understood what she read, and corrected it when she realized.
Too many trying to flame here, Tobias.
Oh good, thanks for the definition! Learn new stuff all the time!
Who is flaming what?
Perhaps Tobias doesn’t care to fan your flames.
I really don’t think Tobias’ comment was intentionally misleading, just a mistake that was quickly corrected, let’s move on…
Where did you see any facts that Crystal was doing crack?
Tobias, regarding your post at 5:48, you said, “Really it does not matter what we rehash over and over someone is either gonna talk or spend a lot of time in jail. And as far as that goes you can bet your last dollar that at least one of them knows something.”
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If anyone currently in jail gets convicted of what they are currently charged with it will be for drugs. Not for anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance.
That’s the problem that I have. I am trying to have faith (as I said in an earlier comment) that TJ knows something and that LE really has some proof and that all they need is some info from someone that’s in jail.
But if that proof is not forthcoming then I will always wonder what happened to Haleigh and I will not be convinced that one of those people is necessarily the one responsible.
I just like a good dash of evidence before my “conviction pie” will set properly.
Thank you Jason and Blue moon I did say I was sorry and that I misread the article and thought she was the attorney but she is a singer song writer. again I apologize.
Tobias, we all make mistakes, no problem.
Jason, what did she read that she mis-understood? She didn’t correct it…I corrected it.
And it’s not flaming to point out untruthful statements.
No problem Tobias.
M2C,
That’s why I asked earlier about evidence, it’s a bet that I could have skipped right over some. But, it looks like I am considered the flamer1?! Haaa Haaa
Well you may have to wait with the rest of us until one of the people in jail finally talks. And then Le tells us what they have. But if they dont we can not with good conscense blame anyone and Haleigh maybe lost forever. jmo
Jason, I understand your frustration because so many times things are said on here as facts when they are just rumor. But Tobias, did correct this and say she was sorry.
That’s why I asked earlier about evidence, it’s a bet that I could have skipped right over some. But, it looks like I am considered the flamer1?! Haaa Haaa
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No, not you…others.
Tobias, it is also a possibility that no one in jail has any info to give. That is what you don’t ever seem to acknowledge is that it is possible that the jail birds have nothing to do with Haleigh disappearing.
Tobias, I am thrilled and relieved to hear you say that (your post at 6:13pm)
Because an earlier post had given me the impression that you were satisfied that the perp was already locked up, done deal, case over.
(Tobias @ 5:35 pm: “LE has the people they feel had something to do or know what happened to Haleigh.”
So I’m glad to understand now what you meant and that you too are waiting for the proof before blaming anyone for that.
Hi Treece,
I am at Mothers… getting ready to take this long drive home. But, before I leave… I am going to sneak in her room and anoint my forehead with her “Holy Oil”. You think that perhaps that will squelch those baddie flames?
***see ya all in a couple of hours***
Treece,You may be right but its highly unlikely. TJ knows more than he can say and said as much on the Sunday program you need to go back and listen to it more closely. jmo
It would be mighty strange to think that LE does not think that the 5 folks they arrested have nothing to do with Haleigh missing. This is a strategic plan to get information from them. They went to a lot of effort to build a case, to get them right where they want them. IMO.
Tobias…maybe you misunderstood TJ….if you mistook singer/songwriter for attorney (they don’t sound at all similar to me!) I think it’s possible you misunderstood other things. Maybe you should go back and listen to it more closely.
Blue Moon, FROM YOUR MOUTH TO GODS EARS. yOU ARE CORRECT.
Blue Moon, according to the LE investigating Haleigh’s disappearance, they had nothing to do with the drugs investigation and only found out about it the day before the arrests.
Lord Have Mercy On My Soul, Me…It is a mute point now. Tobias apologized.
fLAMER…….. GOOD NIGHT ALL PRAY FOR HALEIGH.
Hey cent, you make me smile, have a safe trip home.
Tobias, I listened to him and understood him to say there will be other arrests. What did he say that insinuated whoever took Haleigh is already in jail?? Maybe I missed it.
Blue Moon, according to the LE investigating Haleigh’s disappearance, they had nothing to do with the drugs investigation and only found out about it the day before the arrests.
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I find that very hard to believe. We are not talking about about a thriving metropolis. It is Putnam Co, FL. (I am a native Floridian, I know) The two departments are probably one and the same, and probably sit across from each other.
Exactly, Blue Moon. I can only think that LE is trying to give the impression that they did not target these five because of Haleigh’s disappearance because that could give their defense attornies some room to claim stuff like entrapment and who knows what else.
Also, what happened to all the people who thought PCSO had tunnel vision, jumped to a conclusion too soon and has stuck with it because they either loused up the investigation that night (missed/spoiled evidence) or because they’ve never really pursued any alternatives? All of a sudden everyone believes LE. I WANT TO very much.
But I also want to be sure no one is railroaded just so the public will get off LE’s back.
I’m not blaming anyone, just asking and waiting for the evidence before deciding this pie is fully cooked.
Jason said,in January 26th, 2010 at 5:25 pm I love the sound of your voice, Anne. What you might think is a negative twang, is beautiful music
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OMG I hate to hear ME talk..lol But i had to ask that question. and no i couldnt hear him saying there was phone problems. I had the volume down. Cant wait for his show again. TY
m2c…I agree with you. And it will be interesting to see if they will be able to prove entrapment.
Treece I didnt say he said the ones in jail were the ones.I said he knows more than he can say and he said he did. He also said there would be more arrests that would be relatives from out of state. I in my own opinion feel it is going to be from Mass and/ oR Tenn. but that is just my opinion.
Heres the link about her. Go read and figure.
http://www.jacquehollander.com/
m2c said – Exactly, Blue Moon
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Stop the presses!!! m2c agrees with me? LOL!!
All of a sudden everyone believes LE. I WANT TO very much.
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Well, there comes a time, when you have to think or believe that they are doing the right thing, and we have all waited soo long for some activity on this case. I, for one, have not had a positive experience with LE in another rural town (in FL), as I have said before, a Deputy is in prison for an incident with one of my family members. I trust that there are “Good Cops” and hopefully that is who is working Haleigh’s case. It all takes time and they HAVE to make sure everything sticks or guilty people will walk. I am looking forward to hearing who else they are planning to arrest.
If anything, this drug bust makes me think it is very unlikely Misty or any of that crew were involved. If they were stupid enough to be dealing drugs to undercover police, I can’t imagine they were so clever as to kill a child and outwit LE and the FBI.
me said,in January 26th, 2010 at 6:41 pm If anything, this drug bust makes me think it is very unlikely Misty or any of that crew were involved. If they were stupid enough to be dealing drugs to undercover police, I can’t imagine they were so clever as to kill a child and outwit LE and the FBI
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I agree with you totally.
Jason,
I do like to read your posts. Ilike to here your thoughts on this case. You seem open-minded as I am.
TJ stated that with all his dealings with Misty she is not as dumb as people thinks she is. I have heard this several times and I believe it, she is more clever than you have been led to believe. She was born and raised in how to out wit and stay out of jail by her relatives. Evidently it worked pretty good until she got so drugged up and made a mistake trusting the informant. lol jmo
Actually, the informant could be a family member or friend with no need to build trust…IMO. And yes, I think she is far more intelligent than anyone gives her credit for.
From what has been stated the informant was an undercover police officer. All the news articles and statements from LE say this.And they were wired and video taped. jmo
If this started a month before the arrests he could have met Misty while she was staying at CJones house. Gaining her trust after she turned 18, there was alot reported about her extra activities at that time.jmo
My daughter went to the store so I thought i’d drop a line real quick…..Actually I have a mouthful of crow to swallow,I never said once Ronald didn’t love Haleigh but I did blame him for alot I didn’t understand but I will say this,sure..something stink’s…and it isn’t right to have kid’s around drug’s or sell them etc..I’m not saying he’s innocent of everything
But i wandered off earlier and saw 2 slide show’s of Ronald with Haleigh…..and I bawled..there’s no way in hello that he did not love her or not care for her,If he’s guilty of anything it’s loving his daughter the way a mother should! he has ton’s of pix with her and every single last one he is staring at her with his eye’s smiling as big as his mouth is?..and you know what? She is toooooo!
CS had to photoshop to get just one of her with her own children……I’ll be honest,I alway’s am anyway no matter what it cost’s me?? But I feel so bad for him and Haleigh,and I dunno if he was caught up in something or drugged up or whatever the case may be…….I know just by looking at those slide’s he adored her!!!!!! I hadn’t seen them before..I had seen everything but those!
There’s no way in hello he did something to that little girl!!!!especially not on purpose!
Now if Haleigh’s found alive & I pray she is but she’s not gonna have her daddy to smile at
and have him smile at her! If you haven’t seen the pix,OMG do!!
TJ did state that there would be arest out of state…yahooo hooo!!!!!!!!!
I heard someone say some relative’s live in Knoxville?? Am I correct? If so I’m not 30 mins. from there!
My mother in law loves my children they are her only Grandchildren but she does not like to get photographed or video taped. She says she is not photogenic. That does not prove that she loves her grand kids less. jmo
I believe they live in Antioch.
So being open-minded is okay now? At least for a while? I am so very very glad to hear it.
Sorry for the snarkiness but, well, I think it’s understandable.
Check in with you all later or tomorrow. Have a great evening everyone!
CathyJo, I totally agree!! When Haleigh was first taken everyone said that including Crystal and Misty. THey all said Haleigh had Ron wrapped around her little finger. Crystal said she knew Ron loved her and wouldn’t hurt her. But just a few days and one lawyer later that story all changed.
Tobias said,in January 26th, 2010 at 7:18 pm My mother in law loves my children they are her only Grandchildren but she does not like to get photographed or video taped. She says she is not photogenic. That does not prove that she loves her grand kids less. jmo
JMO2,I am a grandma,that’s not the point Tobias!!!!
has nothing to do with her daddy holding her,smiling into her eye’s the way he is,her looking back at him the same way,
That’s her daddy who took care of her,My point basically is,I never saw one pic of him and her not smiling at each other the same way…you can see the love they both have for one another!!!
Yes, and you see him teaching her to ride a bike, dyeing Easter eggs, celebrating birthdays and just holding her while she does her breathing treatments. No matter what you think of Ron, the love for his kids flows out of him.
Exactly right Treece,even Misty said,there’s no way b/c Haleigh was his heart!!
I just never took the time to investigate it and jumped to thing’s I’d heard! See,I can admit when I’m totally wrong!!! But had I seen those pix at first I wouldn’t be apologizing now for accusing him of ill will toward her!!
My point was just because Crystal didnt have photos does not mean she didnt have the same love for her daughter. She just didnt have photos. I have seen the photos and yes they are loving photos more than likely taken by TNorGGM Sykes. jmo
Yesssssss Treece,you took the word’s right off the tip of my finger’s!!!!!!! Every single pic………..is not a dad who has better thing’s to do,he look’s glad to be there!!!!!!!!
I’m so glad i saw them!!! Made my day!!!
CathyJo63 said,in January 26th, 2010 at 7:14 pm I heard someone say some relative’s live in Knoxville?? Am I correct? If so I’m not 30 mins. from there!
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Yep your right.Cousin Joe is from Antioch Tennessee and so is His brother Brandon and others. I am not that far from there either Cathy
the picture of Casey with calee are really lovely pics too. jmo
doesn’t matter who took them! I am certain mg could have taken some of cs with them!!
You’re missing the point,I’m sorry but you are,I haven’t even seen one of her with them when she was with Ronald and they’d had the kid’s!
I am sure she could have squandered up one!!
ITA….Ron very obviously adored Haleigh and she him. I don’t believe for a second that he would do anything to harm her.
O wow,Hi neighbor….LoL
The Anthonys have wonderful pictures of Casey and Calee. You cant tell from Pictures what is really going on is all I am saying. When you know Casey killed little Calee but the pictures dont show it. jmo
Tobias,I do beg to differ on that one!! Casey lived for camera’s,she said it herself,casey always had to be the closest to the camera,forefront and center and smiled that big ole smile b/c she thought she was beautiful!!! See the video where she told cindy,She’s like me,we both love the camera,IMO That is!
I couldn’t begin to compare the 2!!
Casey was photogenic and had that posing smile but no, love was not pouring out of her eyes at her child.
Blue Moon, thanks so much for being so gracious about the proffer of friendliness I just made after the horrendous bashing you gave me the last time I posted anywhere near you. I’ll try not to make the same mistake again.
I am glad you have your opinion,that’s fine but we can discuss it I hope..LoL And just accept we have diff opinion’s!What the pix showed me is she was jealous of Caylee!
Tobias, I know none of us know everything about this case, more than likely, we are all going to have missed it on what we think happened in some degree or another. But seriously do you not see in those pictures how much Ron loves Haleigh? I not being a smart ass I really want to know. Thanks, Treece
I am just saying there are alot of pictures of people together that look happy and in love and then you here they killed the other a picture of a happy event proves nothing. It just makes you wonder why? News media shows pictures of the Petersons and then there is Tiger kissing his wife and kids and the whole time he has 13 girlfriends. It proves nothing. jmo
Blue Moon at 6:40, That was a very humorous post. lol
I think it makes more sense to compare Crystal with Casey…both seemed to love their children, but were more interested in their own lives (Crystal drugs & Casey partying) than their children.
Ron, on the other hand, fought and obtained custody of his daughter when it became clear Crystal was in no condition to care for the kids.
In any event, I sure hope Crystal has cleaned herself up and there is no crack laying about the property anymore. Do we know if her new boyfriend has a job? Criminal history? Kids? I sure hope he’s not another relative as I think it makes it very hard for kids and they get badly teased and harrassed when they are in a situation where their uncle is also their dad.
I think they are sad and make me wonder why he would give it all away to deal drugs. jmo
I agree Tobias but I am saying all through her life,every pic.. crawling,toddling,bike riding,terrible 3’s..LoL..of him and her together,he’s sitting in a rocker reading her a story with her on his knee and she’s looking up at him with pure genuine Awe of her daddy!!
Tobias, we are just going to have to disagree because I don’t think you are even considering what I am saying and it doesn’t matter. Tiger kissing, or a posed smiley picture is not what I see there. What I see in those pictures, in Ron and Haleigh’s eyes as they look at each other is something you can’t fake. It’s not just something that you see, it’s a photo that literally caught a feeling. It’s ok, you don’t see it. It doesn’t change a thing.
CathyJo63 said,in January 26th, 2010 at 7:37 pm O wow,Hi neighbor….LoL
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Maybe we can meet in the middle.
Blue Moon said,in January 26th, 2010 at 6:58 pm Actually, the informant could be a family member or friend with no need to build trust…IMO. >>>And yes, I think she is far more intelligent than anyone gives her credit for.
I’ll 2nd that motion!!You can tell she was with the hypnotism video,she just didn’t study the part where ya don’t ask ??’s or move around!!
no one is going to get any information from this group until they sober up and memory starts to return—may take a year or so (wont return fully after the drugs fried their brains, but maybe enough to know what happened). Misty should then be questioned about Haleigh, with a deal to reduce the charges if she pleads to manslaughter. If she gives no information, then either she really does not remember and may never remember, or she really does not know what happened to Haliegh. My concern has always been…..suppose she REALLY does not know anything? Was she so stoned out that she left the trailer door open and some stranger came in and took haleigh (in which case she may not have awakened even if Haliegh screamed out)? Distinct possibility. My point is there is nothing that says she definitely knows something just because she was in the trailer that night. Remember all—-she was more than likely drugged out and in a deep sleep that night. Even if an earthquake hit she may not have felt it, much less an intruder taking Haleigh.
And what did he do. He left her with a drug addicted 17 year old and yeah he knew she was an addict. If you love your child do you leave them with drug addicts? No you dont. jmo
treece said,in January 26th, 2010 at 7:55 pm Tobias, we are just going to have to disagree because I don’t think you are even considering what I am saying and it doesn’t matter. Tiger kissing, or a posed smiley picture is not what I see there. What I see in those pictures, in Ron and Haleigh’s eyes as they look at each other is something you can’t fake. It’s not just something that you see, it’s a photo that literally caught a feeling. It’s ok, you don’t see it. It doesn’t change a thing.
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I agree too. No you cant fake the eye connection Ron and Haleigh have. Shes a daddys girl.
Tobias said,in January 26th, 2010 at 7:53 pm I think they are sad and make me wonder why he would give it all away to deal drugs. jmo
I know what your’e saying Tobias,I do and I agree there……that’s the sad part for me as I said!! Indeed,now if she come’s home she won’t see her daddy but looking at those pix i knowwwwww he loves her to the bone!!!!!!!!!!!
That’s why I say i am here for Haleigh,not anybody else!!!! I know she loves him and is in awe of him!! My Daughter’s back,go eat some pizza,LoL bbs
Tobias, that is what is offensive when you state things as a fact that are not proven. No one knows if Misty was an addict in Feb and that Ron knew it. I agree with you that leaving them with her after her being gone all week end was not a good choice. Everyone can say that on hind sight. BUt no one would think this is going to happen. They were obviously all ok when Ggm Sykes was there or she would have stayed or taken the kids. No one KNEW what was going to happen. I am not trying to make you mad.
OK All here lets just stay foussed on Haleigh peeps. Its ok everyone is so stressed and exhausted with this case friends.
NEW ARTICLE!
Haleigh Cummings Update
Documents Released About Drug Bust
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Just scroll up and click on Home in the upper left box and right now it’s the first article on the list.
m2c♥ said,in January 26th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
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TY I have already read that article. Nothing new to me.
m2c said: Blue Moon, thanks so much for being so gracious about the proffer of friendliness I just made after the horrendous bashing you gave me the last time I posted anywhere near you. I’ll try not to make the same mistake again.
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m2c, this is not sarcastic, right? I don’t want to argue with you OR sigh when I see your posts. Let’s all get along.. 🙂 We are all here for the same reason, a sweet little baby…Haleigh!
Yes, it was sarcastic, Blue Moon. After butting in to a discussion that Tobias and I were having, and bashing me, you now are perfectly okay with the much more adversarial “discussion” others are having with Tobias right now and then personally attacking me another night, your response to my overture of friendliness sounded like a slap in the face. Not funny. Not gracious. Not like someone who would like to “get along.”
But if that is what you truly intend then I will accept. If you will do your part.
Anne, you’re very welcome.
To everyone else, there is a new article. It is typical for such things to be mentioned on the current article.
Forgive me for interrupting. (Fill in the blank here as appropriate per individual).
m2c♥ said,in January 26th, 2010 at 8:28 pm Anne, you’re very welcome.
To everyone else, there is a new article. It is typical for such things to be mentioned on the current article.
Forgive me for interrupting. (Fill in the blank here as appropriate per individual).
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Not interrupting at all…I get all these google alerts.. TY so much.
Tobias….again you are stating gossip as facts. Where do you get that Misty was a drug “addict”? Many 17 year olds experiment with drugs without being addicts.
AND m2c says…Yes, it was sarcastic, Blue Moon. After butting in to a discussion that Tobias and I were having, and bashing me, you now are perfectly okay with the much more adversarial “discussion” others are having with Tobias right now and then personally attacking me another night, your response to my overture of friendliness sounded like a slap in the face. Not funny. Not gracious. Not like someone who would like to “get along.”
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WOW, again you are way off. I am not sure what your problem is m2c, and sometimes I don’t want your m2Cents…
I was extending an undeserved Olive branch and trying to make light of our previous interactions. Was not trying to be funny and certainly not a “slap in the face”. I am not sure where your attitude comes from. Might want to keep it in check, as you don’t have too many fans on here. Maybe one or two.
You seem to want to stir the pot with everyone on here with your FACT mission. Sad to say, none of us has the facts, Again, we are trying to put the peices together. And if you find something offensive or RON bashing in the future, just don’t reply. It seems you want to draw attention to yourself, regardless if it is negative. Keep on Focus, and I will say again, this is not about your pride, this is about Haleigh…Good Night…
I will check back in tomorrow.
Simon posted a new article. He included the Incident Reports!
Look to the right near the top, “Recent Entries”.
Click on “Haleigh Cummings Update: Documents Released About Drug Bust”
Yes, waiting for the rest of the docs to be released.
What if Donna Brock already knew Misty prior to Haleigh going missing? She would’ve been in the perfect position, the perfect person to help pull a “scam” off. They/she would THEN have SOME knowledge of what “angle” LE were on.
Not saying LE shared much with TES… but possibly enough for the jailbirds to plan their next move.
***And of course TM is NOT involved in what I’m thinking.***
Blue Moon: I hoped for some peace or truce or kindness in return but that’s not what your smart remark conveyed to me. I don’t think you have any idea how hurtful your attacks on me were. And I’m gathering you don’t care nor are you at all sorry for them since you think you were offering an “undeserved olive branch. Remember, YOU attacked me! You just did it again in fact.
And I never treated you that way. Ever. So pardon me if I did not immediately grasp that you were being nice. How could I be expected to know that? And with what you’ve said since, obviously you were not sincere. So I was right to begin with.
Fortunately I am not in such desperate need of friends that I have to take that kind of treatment from anyone.
You have rebuffed at least THREE attempts on my part to be nice. YOU are the trouble-maker. Not me.
Cent, they say they met through TES but anything is possible with this mess.
m2c said:You have rebuffed at least THREE attempts on my part to be nice. YOU are the trouble-maker. Not me.
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Ok, m2c, enough is enough is enough…I am sure that no one else on here is interested in our differences that evolved over one evening of posting. I am certainly not going to question anything from you forever more. As far as I am concerned, you are correct about everything and the sun rises and sets on your arse.
Treece,
Yes, I know that is what they say… but perhaps their paths crossed way before that day. And that this is why HaLeigh is missing. We all know that in missing person cases, TES is usually called in or TES volunteers. We know this, DB knows this, the clan knows this.
m2c…try not to let them bother you. Pretty much all of us that aren’t willing to convict Ron are getting attacked, and it’s been happening ever since KP got involved. Even though her and her team of bloggers have largely disappeared, there are still quite a few around who are carrying on the mission.
cent…I have found Donna suspicious from day 1. What was she doing in Orlando when she lists her address as NC, and wasn’t her car registered in Georgia? I would hope LE have looked very closely at Misty & Ron’s phone records for the months leading up to the disappearance and would know if she had contact with them beforehand. Tim says he ran a background check on her, but frankly I will be shocked if she really doesn’t have a criminal history.
Blue Moon, thank you! 🙂
But all I’m asking for is mutual respect and civility.
I’m afraid you might not remember that there were serious attacks on two different nights and they really hurt. I still don’t understand them.
I’m hoping that does not give you satisfaction but helps explain where I was coming from when I read your first response to me.
So, if you’re sincere I still hope we can find a way to get along.
me,
Yes, organizations of that kind always run BG’s. TM also says he didn’t know of her drug use either (I believe him), which some folks ARE able to hide.
So many homes… so many places to stash someone/something.
Remember when misty went to Tennessee, because she had no where else to go? Well, now it’s obvious that she still considered DB a friend. Why didn’t she stay with DB?
I’ll have to ponder this some more!!
m2c…Of Course. I am not a mean person and I did not expect a comment on here to Hurt you or your feelings. I am certainly not the type of person that would get satisfaction by hurting someone, if that is what you meant?
I allow some of my personal anger to filter through on some of my posts. They are not relevent to Haleighs case directly, but bring back VERY raw feelings about my families case, that is/could be similar. So, that being said…Truce?
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in January 26th, 2010 at 9:33 pm What if Donna Brock already knew Misty prior to Haleigh going missing? She would’ve been in the perfect position, the perfect person to help pull a “scam” off. They/she would THEN have SOME knowledge of what “angle” LE were on.
Not saying LE shared much with TES… but possibly enough for the jailbirds to plan their next move.
***And of course TM is NOT involved in what I’m thinking
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i have wondered this also if they new each other before Haleigh went missing too.
have you guys seen this video? Sad!!
Ronald is holding her in one of the slides ,he has on a red shirt….beautful Pic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7BVVQJqLPI&feature=PlayList&p=C91E6626B02F7187&index=20&playnext=2&playnext_from=PL
It is easy enough to determine if donna broderick knew Misty before Haleigh went missing, before the TES sponsored trip etc. Just check phone records, ask family friends neighbors if they ever saw them together. I think highly unlikely, as donna is significantly older than Misty. Perhaps a friend of Mistys mom??
Blue Moon @ 10:21pm
A big Yes to your question and sincere thanks!
Great m2c!! 🙂
Cathy Jo, that was a sweet video, thank you for sharing it.
Hey Guys,sorry was in court all dayyyyyy yesterday,From 8 to 4, got home came online and eye’s closed so i went on to bed,I didn’t sleep 2 nights before so I was tired!!!!! I’m gonna try to catch up now!..LoL This ole body’s wearing out!!
YVW Treece,it was wasn’t it?? I’m sorry but you can tell he was the most involved person in her life!!!!
/me duck’s now from flying rocks..LoL
I am not saying he’s done NO wrong..I don’t know that but 2-3 night’s ago i swore he was in on it before and after but looking just at his eye’s and her’s,there’s no way i’ll ever believe he hurt her on purpose in any way shape or form and I have to admit right now,That as I fell asleep last night all I could picture was him laying on that jail cot,knowing he did nothing to her but he’s lost both his kid’s…accused of bad doing to Haleigh and my heart broke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean hey,none of us are perfect but even if he used,sold whatever he still loved them!!!!!!!!!!!
If i were in his place OMG!
and then you see cs give him a meassage?? childishly sticking her tongue out to them!!
Another thing I will say is “someone somewhere”
has cheated Haleigh,It’s not to often you see a father who even want’s his kid’s let alone who adore’s them..If it kill’s me I will write to Ronald and tell him that I am so sorry for ever taking a side against him on Haleigh’s part,I imagine he might even appreciate that someone does see now and understand! I can’t quit crying,it’s killing me! Since I saw all these pix and it’s like someone else here said,sorry i forgot who but the love in those 2’s eye’s isn’t something you can fake in a photo,you can add an extra arm,beard,fix part’s but not these you CANNOT!!
And I promise,no more comment’s,in a row like these, I’d say you’re getting tired of my big mouff.LoL
But I saw TN on today show after they’d been arrested and she was asked,what was it they missed the most or a similar ?? and she only said, “her smile” and I thought well geeeeee,I’d have said something different too,all kid’s smile.but I hadn’t seen the pix then either!!
No wonder she said “her smile” ,It’s the God’s honest truth” A child don’t smile constantly if they aren’t happy and feel loved!!!!!
She is smiling with her mouth and eye’s in every pic with her daddy!
where is everyone??
My personal opinion of everything I have seen and read about Ron and Haleigh—-Not a chance in heII that Ron either was involved or knows ANYTHING about who was involved or where Haleigh is. I believe he and his family kept close to Misty solely for the reason of hoping she would say something to lead them to Haleigh. The recent drug arrests…I dont know…it is too soon to really say, but he does seem satisfied with SOMETHING that has recently happened.
I agree benzo!!!!!!!!
I have been reading all day b/c no one’s been here..LoL But what AH and KP and MG & CS and a few other’s have done to this lettle girl and the only one’s who really did love and take care of her is the lowest thing I beleieve i have ever seen in my life,What they’ve done to Haleigh’s life should get them all life in prison plus 1 day and that’s my hinest opinion,I won’t take it back nor ever deny I said it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am ashamed of me for reading articles that these loser’s put up to destroy this child’s entire life with a very LOVING FATHER! EVEN IF HE DID SELL DRUGS,DOES NOT EVENNNNNNN COMPARE To what these idiot’s have done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am fit to be tied right now,I am! ppl don’t stop to think about the effect’s it has on the child!! Only themselve’s!!!! I can only imagine what Haleigh is going through right now!!
and her daddy!!This is one time and the only time I really wish I had alot of money!! Know what I mean?
CathyJo63 said,in January 27th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
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Bless your heart. Yes i know exactly what your saying and know how you feel. I agree with you 100% God Bless Haleigh and All of the kids.
TY Anne, I just went over there on AH comment’s and blasted the place and I don’t care but i bet they won’t post them but it has infuriated me,since I have seen all this stuff that was covered up!
I was born to alcoholics and treated any old way and the ppl who were supposed to protect me from those kind of ppl were the one’s doing it and I am so upset right now b/c I know Haleigh is the one who is hurt by this crap by the one’s you’d think would protect her!!!!!!
Sorry you guys had to hear me rant but I don’t regret a word of it.just acted out of haste somewhat….but it’s hard not to!
Where is everybody today?? yooHoooo??
/me looks in the corner,behind the door,under the porch….not a soul!
Cathy, come here
http://www.bloggernews.net/123656#comment-1493159
So this is where you guy’s have been hiding,I wondered!!
Thanks Anne for telling me where ya were!
Do any of the clan members have a rap sheet from other states… I am torn about asking this, because of privacy issues.
In order to “pass” a drug test, you are allowed legal prescriptions from doctors, those do not count. I do not think Crystal is sober, I think she went to a doctor. Took a page from Ron’s book. She already had the lawyer and they were already wanting custody of Junior and working with the lawyer to get her affairs in order to pursue custody. They were ready.
David said,in January 28th, 2010 at 10:44 pm In order to “pass” a drug test, you are allowed legal prescriptions from doctors, those do not count. I do not think Crystal is sober, I think she went to a doctor. Took a page from Ron’s book. She already had the lawyer and they were already wanting custody of Junior and working with the lawyer to get her affairs in order to pursue custody. They were ready.
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BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so glad this whole bunch is locked up,hope their lives are pure hell in jail.Just like the hell those children have been through.I don’t feel sorry for any of them.As for Ron’s mom,she new full well what they all have been doing.Maybe be she has been ripping the rewards of the money they have made.I just don’t understand why if she is such a great person,she never took those children out of that mess.I have been raising 4 grandchildren because I didn’t want their mother to hurt them.No she wasn’t my daughter,but the day my son brought the children to me and said they were endanger and ask for help I took the bull by the horn.Was drug related,but as a parent we know the signs.My son thanks me everyday for saving his children.Ron’s mom knew.I just want one thing now that these trashy people are locked up and know they are gone for the rest of their lives pretty much to please tell what happen to Haleigh.What do they have to lose now.Ok get mad at me,it’s ok.God Bless Haleigh where ever she is.This story still breaks my heart and makes me cry.I don’t understand how people can do these type of things and show know regard for their sweet little children.I hope Crystal shows everyone they are so wrong about her.She stepped up and got her son back,had she not cared she would of left him with Ron’s family,give her that much.If it were your son wouldn’t you?Maybe she has changed her life and is off drugs.We don’t know now do we,we only hear what the news,bloggs,and word of mouth.I know there are people out there that have done drugs that has turned it around and made something out of their lives.Jr.,can’t be any worse off that he was with Ron.I never understood why the state didn’t step in and take him.Well hope they can get to the bottom of it all now.Misty might break both cases wide open.
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