With it being Christmas, the exact make up of the panel remains in question. But we will have Simon and Jan Barrett, TJ Hart, and Denny Griffin.
This has been another seemingly quiet week. The PCSO have played this case close to their vest. I can not fault them for that, so many cases have ended badly because of ‘Loose lips’. I was talking to my friend TJ Hart today, and the subject of the Florida Sunshine Law came up. This law is in someways similar to the ‘Freedom Of Information Act’. It offers transparency, but it does not mean that everything can be made public.
I have no idea how many times I have been asked – Well we have the details about Caylee Anthony, why don’t we have the same information about Haleigh Cummings?
Oh, do not get me wrong, there would be nothing that would fascinate me more than to peek inside the PCSO files. But there is no way to do that, the two cases are very different. Casey Anthony has been charged with the death of her daughter Caylee. The Sunshine Law permits ‘discovery’ to be shared with the press. But, and I do want all of you to think long and hard about this, all of the ‘discovery’ released has come from the prosecution. Almost nothing but rhetoric and idiotic suggestions have come from the defense. There is a February 1st date set for Baez and his merry band to produce conclusive proof of his clients innocence. This date was set in November. I have to ask the question, it may seem silly, yet I view it as important.
Why would a defense attorney claim to have absolute proof of his clients innocence, and yet agree to a three month timeline to produce it? If I was sitting in jail and I knew my attorney has this ‘smoking gun’, I would be livid! Actually I would be starting a civil suit right now! If my attorney had proof of my innocence and made me sit behind bars for 3 additional months, I would be plotting his end! Of course, it is possible that this just more grandstanding by Baez and his ‘nightmare team’. This guy is the ultimate whiner, he even used some of Jans articles about the case as reasons to move the trial! Jose, grow up, smell the roses. We are not the ambulance chasers. We follow them 🙂
It should be an interesting program. To listen in, just point your browser to www.blogtalkradio.com a few minutes before 3pm central, the program will be on the front page.
Simon and Jan Barrett
Update: It would seem that my fan club has changed the image on his front page. I am humbled. It is amusing, and I do hope that he derives as much amusement from it as I have.
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackOh sorry I thought this was an article about haleigh.
Thank you for your article, Simon. Looking forward to your show on Sunday at 3 p.m. CST.
We have been running this program for many months, yes we focus on Haleigh, but we also discuss other cases. In fact on Sunday we will be talking about Adji Desir.
As opposed to some, we do try to cover the stories that others do not.
BTW happy Christmas Beast.
Beast, it’s wonderful to see you are still reading BNN articles. Thank you, Simon. I will enjoy listening to the show Sunday.
I thought it was an article about Haleigh too, instead of the same ole same ole. No wonder the Anthonys make so much money on their granddaughters death, yall can’t stop talking about them a year later.
What is it about Simon that intimidates some of you so much that you have to insult him?
He was letting you know about the show today.
In case you haven’t noticed, there has been no new information about Haleigh.
Where else do you see any articles about Haleigh? Exactly, no where else. All the other media outlets have moved on.
As far as his coverage of Caylee/Casey Anthony, let’s not forget that Casey has not been convicted as of yet. I don’t know Simon personally, but I would be willing to bet that until she is, he will continue to write articles about it. I for one hope so. I don’t want those potential jurors to forget for one second what that evil monster did to her daughter.
There are plenty of other websites to go to. As far as I can tell, no one is twisting anyone’s arm to read Simons articles.
Can’t we all just play nice and enjoy the articles & the people at BNN?
I see some of the folks out there just are’nt morning people…eh Beast, Michelle??? Keep up the good work simon and jan! Some of us rely on you to get the truth out to the bloggers!
Michelle @ 5:13 am:
The Anthonys are still going on TV interviews claiming their monster daughter could not have killed little Caylee. Why? Because as G said, “We can’t believe we could bring someone into this world who would do that.” It’s all about Sindee and G. Their pride.
Personally I don’t think they give a darn about monster or about Caylee. They only care about how this makes THEM look!
So as long as they’re still hawking their self-serving opinions on national television, I think it’s important for us to debunk them and show what awful evil selfish people they really are. Otherwise, uninformed or gullible people WILL send them money (which I hope they choke on). JMO
Simon, just to let you know that if you point your mouse on the “icon” picture, it says a**hole.png.
JUSTICE FOR HALEIGH
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE
Sorry, but I think the LE in Putman County are a little, hum how can I put this…..slow. I believe there so much corruption it is unbelievable!!
The players in thhis case aren’t rocket scientists. Why can’t they cut through this case with razor sharpness?
Could someone tell me where TN works? Is she still a dispatcher for LE somewhere?
Simon Thanks For keeping us all updated In the haleigh Case i hope someone break the news finding Haleigh. i hope cobra come back to your show he was the one who was trying to find Haleigh and ronald never once said to him let me help you. my I.M.O. Is cobra was the one who worked hard and made it far to aireing on t.v. about the drugs that where in involve around this crowd of people the croslins the cumming and friends this we all would not have known. bless you all.
What about Snodgrass and Misty’s involvement?
Does anyone know how soon we can listen to the program again? I missed the first part of it.
Whenever I’ve tried to keep up in the chat room, I find that I miss parts of the conversation. Guess I’m just not that coordinated.
Thanks to all for the constructive discussion on today’s show.
We have all been provided with a lot of food for thought.
I agree with the thinking that staying focused is extremely necessary. Sadly, what appeared to be a lot of the side show theatrics seemed to have confused people, and maybe yes, created huge distractions but too I think they also helped in ruling certain issues in or out and helped in bringing the focus back squarely where it needs to be. Like a leveling of the playing field. No stone unturned right?
(Just trying to stay focused and keep things in perspective here.)
T.J.’s thoughts about Cousin Joe have me thinking quite a bit about his possible involvement. Not saying that I believe that Cousin Joe is responsible but Wow T.J. is right about the profile and what not.
I’m also thinking about how Cousin Joe ducked out all quick like.
Suspicious no matter how you look at it.
Anyway in regards to what I have been researching,
Like I’ve said in previous posts in regards to how groups of people respond when someone in their group commits a sacreligious act, especially against a Child, they are shunned away, sometimes slowly, because those who know and love them have a hard time accepting that the person or persons could or would have done something like that.
It is an insult against the whole group/gang/family etc…
Everyone around them suffers and it is neither right nor fair to any one of them. Even if the story told of the incident seemed innocent, lies… even seemingly small ones, cast doubt on the persons overall truthfullness in the matter or matters.
Trust, Respect and Integrity have been compromised.
stormgardner said,in December 20th, 2009 at 5:37 pm “Does anyone know how soon we can listen to the program again? I missed the first part of it.”
At 6:45 p.m. Sun., I’m hearing the archived show. Not sure how long it’s been up. Hope this helps. I did search for Simon Barrett and click on shows to find it more easily.
ThugCops4Christ, why thank you. I appreciate that very much.
Simon:
There you are standing among the finest. Look at the two you are standng between. Co-incidence? LOL
I am personally more concerned about Tommy then Cousin Joe.
Cousin Joe is a city boy. He is not the type to be out hog hunting or gator feeding. Ron had just met him for the first time on this visit, so not likely they were out hanging in the woods.
Joe usually visits his family in Daytona where he used to also visit Misty’s family until their move to Putnam. They had not lived in Putnam all that long so I doubt Joe spent a great deal of time in that area.
His quick exit from Florida could be because he was out of state while he was out on bond, which was a violation. Had he been caught in Florida he would have been violated and immediately locked up.
It was the FBI that went to Tenn to question Joe originally. I trust the FBI’s ability to question somebody and get the “gist” of their involvement much more then I trust PCSO’s ability.
Hardy pretty much eliminated Joe as a suspect after FBI questioned Joe. I understand that LE did take away that “clearance” but I think that was just to cover their own arses, and keep everybody on the suspect list.
I’m still open to a lot of possibilities including Tommy and Joe. And another possibility still haunts me. So far I really have not seen any evidence or heard anything definite from LE (except their opinion) that would completely rule it out. And that is a stranger SO. Below are a couple of reasons that this possibility still bothers me.
A November 5, 2009 CBS Evening News report (in an article about where SOs live) states:
“Authorities have lost track of some 100,000 sex offenders. Critics say better tracking, not isolation, is the answer.
“The most dangerous sex offenders are highly mobile, so they will travel, they’ll move from community to community, they will seek out opportunities,” said Ernie Allen with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
Next year all states will be required by federal law to closely track all sex offenders and to inform the public who are the most violent. “
Here’s the link to the article.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/05/eveningnews/main5541161.shtml
It would explain why no one local has spoken up – they don’t know. ANd it has happened – children taken from their beds under their parents’ noses. Just a thought – although an awful one.
I personally feel noone should of ever been eliminated as a suspect. This is a very bizarre case. I feel compassion for the families, but I am not Yet convinced that perhaps someone in her family maybe involved in Haleighs disappearance. If LE is in on it then I hope they are taken down as well. Only Haleigh matters here! JUSTICE FOR HALEIGH!!
I really feel Baez has nothing for his defense. I also feel the Peosecution is still holding a damning piece of evidence. They took the dp off and Casey copped no plea. In I believe Feb they were asked if they were going to reinstate the dp and they said no. I do not know what they got,but just a couple months after this they did reinstate the dp and has not dropped it since. The state knew Casey would not cop a plea as people thought this was their stratedgy to get Casey to confess.IMO the state feels they have everything they need to prove this case and get a conviction. JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!!
hangnon,
Your thoughts about Cousin Joe seem reasonable enough. Especially the part about trusting the FBI and LE’s judgement in regards to Joe. Here’s the thing though, we are all just a bunch of lowly folks trying to follow this case here. We do not know what exactly what may have been FBI and/or LE’s motivation for eliminating Joe as a suspect so quickly. Truthfully, we don’t know squat about it. Do you think it possible that they wanted Cousin Joe to believe that he was not suspected?
(Just tossing a few ideas around.)
Tuff- I honestly believe that the FBI agents that were involved early on were very capable and knew what they were doing. If it was local LE that had questioned Joe, I would not think this. I personally do not think local LE has the expertise in investigating a missing child’s case AND I feel that in such cases local issues may come into play as well, that could hinder an investigation.
I just do not feel that Joe is involved other then illegally being in Florida at the time and getting out of dodge because of that.
I really think this case is closer to home then Joe. Joe did not know Ron, or the children. He had just met them. Joe has no history of sexual offenses. So I just do not see a motive on Joe’s part.
Just following my gut on this one.
Hangnon,
What are your thoughts about the alleged fight? If Joe did not know him and Ron did not know Joe then there should have been no fight yet TeresaN said there was a fight so what are we to believe?
And if there was a fight what might it have been about? It seems to me that under the circumstances of Misty and Ron’s breakup then Misty’s partying binge/fling with Greg and then Misty’s coming back to Ron’s home would have been enough of a strain and then to add to that this alleged fight between Ron and Cousin Joe it just makes me wonder what exactly might this alleged fight have been all about?
I think it is a mix up in terminology. The women considered it a “fight”, the men did not. No blows were thrown, more of an argument.
This is my take on it. Ron’s gun was missing. They blamed Joe for taking it. Joe denied it. An argument ensued, Misty and Lindsy found the gun in the culvert of Tommy and Lindsy’s MH. Crosins claim Joe made threats against Ron.
Now given that situation I can totally understand Ron, and the rest of the family, believing, in the beginning that Joe had taken HaLeigh. Heck I would think that LE also thought the same thing given the circumstances.
BUT knowing now what we know about Tommy, I think it is much more likely that it was Tommy that took Ron’s gun and not Joe. Tommy had access, it was found at his MH, and now we know he is a gun thief.
Right. It’s the part about Joe making threats against Ron that makes me believe it could be possible that Joe could be involved somehow especially considering what T.J. Hart said in regards to Cousin Joe’s profile.
Well it was Hank Croslin that said Joe had made threats about Ron, sooooo….
Has Cousin Joe ever denied the alleged threats?
I have not heard Joe give any statement to any media. There were some comments on his myspace to him from somebody telling him to go back to Florida and help look for HaLeigh. I believe that comment was left after Joe had commented to that person that they thought he was involved with HaLeigh’s disappearance.
I have found nothing in his criminal history to suggest he is a pedophile, other then Misty’s statement that he had messed with her when she was younger. Since they are close in age that could have been a “you show me yours, i’ll show you mine” type deal. No one really knows for sure.
It seems to me that by Joe not making a statement in the matter, that it is safe to assume that the alleged threats likely did occur. No response is still a response.
I don’t know if any media even attempted to get an interview with Joe. I am sure it was discussed between Joe and the FBI.
I’m certain that if Joe was adamantly denying such an incident had occured that he would have contacted media himself in order to set the record straight especially since this case is high profile. I highly doubt that the media would have looked the other way on a response from him.
Oh I believe that Ron and Joe had words, BUT I believe there is a very good possibility that it was not Joe that stole Ron’s gun, that it very possibly could have been Tommy.
Oh I see, you are talking about the gun. Yea I guess you could possibly be right about that. I was speaking specifically about Joe’s possible involvement in Haleigh Ann Marie Cummings disappearance.
I just don’t see motive on Joe’s part to have taken HaLeigh. I did not find any criminal history of violence on his part.
Now Tommy on the other hand, has a history of violence, stealing, drug use, hatred of Ron. I just see more motive on Tommy’s part to be involved then I do on Joe’s part.
Again, just my gut.
Good chatting with you hangnon.
You as well Tuff.
Michelle Kosinski spoke to Cousin Joe and talks about it (he’s not in the clip, it’s her talking about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3jzQi6dfLM
tuff and hangnon,
well along the lines of your discussion, i always thought it important that the croslins seemed to have piled on joe so fast.
1. either as a diversion from misty, tommy, or anyone else in the family?
2. or was it because they really suspected joe.
3. of course another option is they just wanted to get the attention off of themselves because, they were hiding other illegal activities. but, to do this and sacrifice a nephew/cousin to hide other illegal activities that seems extreme. but, maybe.
i would love to know how long it took misty’s family to show up after her calls to her mom and to timmy that night. if she was really terrified, and neither lived very far away, wouldn’t you rush immediately over and try to protect your daughter/sister? if it was my daughter i would have run right out the door and been their in a minute or minutes. (depending on how far away they were that night.) if they took awhile to come over, could, that be because they were not really afraid for her? i really don’t have a clue how long it took them. just that lisa just seemed to say yeah misty called scared. i didn’t see her say anything about if she rushed over. i may have missed that part.
of course the possible history of another gun theft is important. that looks really bad on tommy. at least as far as who probably really took the gun.
stormgardner said,in December 20th, 2009 at 9:41 am
“…Where else do you see any articles about Haleigh? Exactly, no where else. All the other media outlets have moved on…”
simon has been amazing!
Karon Cox said,in December 21st, 2009 at 2:14 am 😀 lol
“Other media outlets have moved on”
Yes, BECAUSE THERE IS NO NEWS TO REPORT. It is not like there is news on Haleigh, and the media just does not care and will not report it. Not in the least. Other media outlets DO report when the Cummings relatives are jailed, and only because they are relatives of Haleigh (these crimes themselves are not newsworthy). Please do not make it seem like the media does not care about Haleigh. They do. They are just not irresponsible enough to publish rumor, innuendo, false accusations, wild theories, etc.
wondering just like the rest about joe, why have they not search where he stay in tennesee.
cent said,
in December 21st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Has everyone seen JVM… Dog The Bounty Hunter is going to help the mother of abducted 10 yr old Jean Paul.
hello bonanzajellybean, i wonder if a reporter could do a in depth article covering what has happened since the beginning when haleigh went missing. i have to say if i was a reporter i bet i could find new questions to ask. (but, i have not followed from the beginning, i think you have?) the part you have said about wild theories? are you saying people should not discuss the possibilities of what they think could have happened on a blog. tia ms.p.
There is no evidence in this case. Without evidence to back up theories, no reputable news outlet is going to print them, not even to “keep Haleigh’s face before the public”. They remain “speculation”. Theories are like A**wholes, everybody has one. Haleigh’s story has been told over and over and over for months. The fact that she is missing is not news. However….the fact that LE have zip, zero, zilch evidence in the case, in my opinion, IS newsworthy. I would like to see a story showing the competency (or lack of) of LE in this case. This case is similar to the Sabrina Aisenberg case in Florida, where an infant disappeared from her crib in the middle of the night. There was no evidence found there either—no forced entry, no fingerprints, no hair fibers, etc. LE immediately assumed the parents killed her….going so far as to bug the parents bedroom, then claimed the tapes had confessions from the parents—all lies. So much time was spent focusing on the parents, that the infant was never found. That was almost 13 years ago. And the parents, who were the intense focus of the police investigation, who had their reputations trashed by LE and the public? —-THEY WERE NEVER CHARGED. LE screwed up then, and they screwed up now.
Before anyone writes back “we do not know what evidence LE has, they are keeping it close to their vests”—First, they have publically stated that they have no evidence. Second, leaks happen in LE ALL the time. Reporters would get wind of any major progress in this case. If LE had ANY evidence whatsoever in this case, it would definitely be leaked, because this is a VERY high profile case. They have NOTHING, which leads me to believe this is a cold case.
bonanzajellybean:
I think your right (post above). If there were any “hot” leads….I think someone would have leaked….
bonanzajellybean, i wonder who could and would do a invstgd report on this. it would probably take a very sophisticate reporter or team. sadly, your comment is probably true about if they had anything. ms.p. oh also, i am still wondering if anyone “went along” knowingly, why???
Stone Phillips? Dateline NBC’s To Catch A Predator “host” Chris Hansen…He’s perfect! He’s the one who caught D Snodgrass before…There’s a link…I’ll find it. I think I’ll try to email Dateline/NBC about it.
Sorry correction the Dateline NBC ToCatch A Predator that was caught was: Thomas Henry Snodgrass, 24, of CA.
Daniel Snodgrass was arrested for this crime:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=98444
That was Dec 2007, it has been 2 full yrs since his arrest yet no trial. It is now being reported that the girls he abused are no sure they still want to testify. If they don’t, he walks? WHat about the pictures they found, possibly other children involved, come on…this can’t just disappear.
The question that is just now occurring to me is this: If Dan Snodgrass hasn’t been convicted of a sex crime yet, why is he mandated to wear a tracking device? Was it a condition of his bond? If anyone knows please post. I thought that he would only be ordered to do so if found guilty. He has yet to go to court on the sexual molestation charges, so why the GPS? Has he been convicted of another crime in another state? I’ve searched the National database of SOs & Predators and he does not appear.
Also Mr Snodgrass owns several properties (or prior to the Cobra incident). His bond was picked up by Underwriters of Llyod’s of London after Misty Saunders/Sanders removed her bond gaurantee.
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