Authorities in Putnam County are draining a large pond near Satsuma. Some news organizations are reporting that they are looking for Haleigh’s body. Phone calls earlier today reveal that this may not be the case.
This pond is the location where authorities found a grow operation on Thursday, approximately 100 large pot plants were discovered. This is also the reason that a helicopter was seen in the area that day. The police are merely saying that they are looking for evidence. Now if by chance something is found pertaining to the search for Haleigh then that would be a bonus. My sources are saying that the primary focus is evidence concerning the Grow op. One source is saying that they may be trying to locate some ATV’s that are in someway connected with the drugs.
The decision to drain the pond followed two days of searching by police divers. The Mondex property, which is southwest of Palatka near State Road 19, has the reputation for being a large party location.
We will just have to wait this one out and see what transpires. I was talking with TJ Hart a few minutes ago and he does plan on visiting the site to get a first hand account of what is going on.
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackEveryone wants answers, but non-LE need to stay away and let these people do their jobs. Too many nosey people have gotten involved, thus the many rumors.
Everyone is getting tired of all this. Haleigh needs to be found so there can be closure in this story.Right,too many nosey people involved and many rumors. Either dead or alive which would be a miracle Haleigh needs to come home!
Thank you so much for the update Simon, I was afraid to turn the computer on this morning after the crazy crap put out last night. I can only imagine how horrified the families were if they had been told these cruel, and hateful initiated rumors. When will people learn the difference between gossip and truth and how they hurt others..
thank you again..
All:
LE says the draining of the pond southwest of Palatka will take a couple of days. I plan to be out there Sunday for my call in to the show “live from the scene.” I hope my health allows me to pull this off.
The full investigation will not take place until Monday, I am told.
Sources say all this coincides with several things including the discovery a good-sized marijuana grow, reports of stolen vehilces and possible clues to Haleigh’s whereabouts.
PCSO says the Haleigh information did not come from the questioning of Hank Croslin Jr or his wife.
Information allegedly came from other interviews of several other people and a letter from an jail inmate in another state.
All tips are being completely vetted in the effort to find Haleigh.
TJ Hart
Thank you Simon, for the article. Thanks to you as well, TJ. Get well soon! Hopefully, those spreading the rumors, will realize how much it hurts Haleigh’s family, and will stop and think before they speak. Praying for Haleigh’s safe return.
I am following this so close right now!! I thought Haleigh would be found alive….I am losing that hope now. I too was afraid to turn on my computer this morning.
Anyone know what happened with the Haleigh sighting out in Mass???
Thanks!
“…He said, although coincidental, the recent interviews with Hank Thomas Croslin Jr. and Kristina Prevatt did not provide the information which led to the search. However, he would not release any details about the interviews. …”
I hadn’t heard that Nay-Nay was recently interviewed.
http://www.wesh.com/news/21005898/detail.html
I wonder if Kristina Prevatt is one of the other inmates questioned this week. Maybe the info they are going on now is from someone else from Kristina’s group who is also incarcerated right now?
My theory at this point:
Misty partied with her brother Tommy and at least 3 others at the area now being searched. She became stoned/intoxicated and was unable to walk unsupported. She was taken home.
The person(s) who took Misty home propped the back door open with a block, to carry Misty inside. The person(s) did not put her to bed and leave right away. Instead, they lingered, knowing Misty was passed out, and that they had time before Ronald came home.
The back door was propped open with a block, just as Misty said. However, the reason it was propped open was to carry Misty inside, not carry Haleigh out.
Haleigh’s brother may very well have seen the ‘couch bounce’.
If Misty & Ronald’s bed had not been slept in (as Ronald said), it may be because whomever carried Misty inside placed her on the couch, and had sexual contact with her in view of Haleigh’s brother.
Thanks for the updates Simon. T.J. I hope you are feeling better.
Nance,
I’m not necessarily buying that Misty was “passed out from being stoned or intoxicated” myself. Had Le seen any sign of that when they showed up on the scene I would think they would have arrested her on the spot.
Simon,
Your article last night was right on imo.
It is uncool and unacceptable to be running around stating as fact things like that Misty had shot herself and until information comes from Le themselves by way of a formal statement then we should speculate that it is just a rumor, speculation and/or theory. Until Le gives their statements we are all left with rumor, speculation and theory and then everyone is running around wondering who’s interpretation to trust.
All of us, especially those of us who have followed this case from the start, we all want this case to be solved but we want the case solved accurately with actual facts proving who did what and yes we all agree that finding Haleigh is most important of all.
Thank you guys for all that you do in keeping the story accurate.
Okay, for everyone who has asked in the last week about what happened with the sighting of Haleigh in Massachusetts (around Labor Day, right?) Well, the telegraph is down, and the PonyExpress pony threw a shoe, so the rider is walking the rest of the way to Florida to report the results, so that’s why we don’t know.
Either that OR there is NOTHING to be reported for pete’s sake. Either they found her and they are keeping it under wraps until they capture all the kidnappers (that theory is just to help those who require such nonsense in their daily rumor diet) OR the sighting came to NOTHING (which means there is nothing to report) OR they are still investigating the sighting (in which case there is nothing to report).
Tuf Stuff- I agree with everything you wrote except ” everyone is running around wondering who’s interpretation to trust.”
There is no need to run anywhere or wonder who’s
“interpretation” to trust. That’s what happens when people mistake blogs and bogus websites run by idiots for NEWS! Credible news sources are NOT hard to find even out of Palatka and Satsuma. And fortunately here on BNN we have real reporters like TJ Hart and Art Harris whom we can count on.
So there is no need for anyone to pay one whit of attention to things that are “all over the net” (Who cares?) If it’s not from a reliable, credible, trustworthy source like those I’ve mentioned above, it’s only worth what it would take to print out the comment and blow your nose with it. (I think you probably agree, right?)
Thanks M2C about the Mass lead. (Or lack of)
Haleigh has not been found. For sure we would of heard that………
Theories on the back door with a block keeping it open?? Misty went out, kept the door prompt open for her return. When she did return, Haleigh was gone. JMO
I’m a little unclear about the door. Was it like a storm door? So if it was propped open, the other one could still be closed? Or was the one that was propped open the only door?
I’m wondering because who in the state of Florida with any brain matter whatsoever would leave a door wide open – particularly at night with no one to watch it every single second?
Do you have any idea how many slithering horrible frightening and deadly creatures could crawl in? Gives me the shivers even thinking about it.
M2c you are absolutely correct. Unfortunately what I wrote is exactly what was happening for quite a few posters. Hopefully everyone has been able to regain their focus after everything that had been happening as far as the rumors and what not.
m2c, thank you for bringing this back to reality.
You always keep a level head!! Also, thank you
for giving Simon, Jan, & TJ credit for honest reporting. They do a fantastic job. Treece
Correct, Tuff, many bloggers have commented about their speculations and theories – a benefit of the internet, which in this case I am convinced has made LE feel pressured to keep investigating.
A child weighing less than 40 lb can easily be carried in one arm, and the door opened with the other. Most likely, the door was not propped open to carry Haleigh out.
BOLDONE3, LE found the door propped open, and you apparently believe, as I do, that Misty is telling the truth when she says the door was propped open with a block prior to her call to 911, and that she did not simply ‘stage’ the propped open door to make it appear someone removed Haleigh from the home by taking her out the back door.
If Misty did not have a set of house door keys, and the doorknob was of the type that automatically locks when the door is shut, then there was a reason for her to prop the door open for her later return.
Even if she didn’t have keys, as long as the door knob was not a self-locking one, she would have had no reason to prop the door open; just closing it would suffice.
m2c,
Misty had to be referring to the interior door, because in her account of the night’s events she merely ‘saw the door open’.
If she meant the exterior (storm) door was opened, her account would have (well, should have) included “I opened the door and saw the (screen door, exterior door, other door) open”.
I pray they find Haliegh, I still think drugs were involved in this case. For everyone that is fed up with the abuse and mmurder of children please help.
Thank you, Pat
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/16/stop-the-abuse-and-murder-of-the-children-in-the-us
Thank you, Nance. I’m sorry. I’m just dense. So what door supposedly required a cement block to keep it open? That’s why I was assuming it was like a storm or screen door or at least the only door – that there was not a second door at all – or was there? I guess I just can’t think of main/only home doors that need to be held open like that (unless the MH was not level).
BOLDONE3,
I just recalled a detail mentioned about that door; that is – difficulty in opening it.
A person might prop open a difficult to open door, instead of pulling it shut; even though they have keys.
Therefore, even if Misty had keys to the door, she might leave it propped open to avoid having to work at making it open on her return.
Well, one door or two, cement block or not, IF an entryway was left totally open at night in Florida I would have moved out of there even faster than Ron did! LOL! God knows what could have crawled in and stayed hidden goodness knows where!
m2c,
You’re not dense at all – I’ve read many of your posts and you make really good points.
I may be on a bit of an ‘investigative thinking’ roll today – it just all sort of ‘storyboarded’ for me this morning, possibly because I cried last evening after reading LE was pumping out water at the party area.
I recall seeing online an image of the back porch area . . .
I’ll find it, take a look and see whether there is a screen door.
Honestly, when Misty said the backdoor was opened and LE agreed, I assumed it was the truth. Shame on me!!
Misty could just as well of staged that door block. And NO I don’t believe she had keys. Both her and Ronald said she did not. I lived in Florida for about 5 minutes, great observation about critters running in!! Who would keep a door open?? But…when you are a dope fein, you want to leave the house, and that is your only option..anything goes…
I have followed this case since day 1. I never for a second really believed Ron had anything to do with Haleigh gone missing, except the part he played in leaving his children with a dope fein.
I also don’t beleive that Misty is smart enough to “outsmart” the cops. So for that reason, I don’t believe she knows where Haleigh is. Is she lieing about that night? ABSOLUTELY. And Ron knows it. She never did laundry like she claimed. No detergine in the house. So WHY is this man in Misty’s corner???
I just can’t make sense out of any of.
BTW…I like this blog!!!!
I have been out of laundry soap before & needed to wash something and used a squirt of dish soap or cap full of pinesol. Just FYI
I do want to say, unfortunately I think within a week, we will have found Haleigh.
Don’t forget as much great investigating that is going on, there is alot that LE is keeping close to the vest. And nobody in the public knows about.
I think we find her this week. I don’t for the first time, think we will find her alive though.
m2c,
There was both an interior door, and an exterior screen door.
http://patrishka.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/backdoor.jpg
Treece, Ron said when he opened up the wash machine it was empty, and the dryer had dirty clothes in it.
Those were Ron’s words.
Again, nothing is clear. Except Haleigh is gone.
I have to followed this from day one. I think LE has more information then he is telling so it wouldnt hurt the case. I still believe Ron and Misty and possibly others are involved. They got married, I can see that Ron is a devil I do not and cannot stand him at all. Misty has to keep looking at Ron before she can open her mouth to speak so many lies but thing Haleigh will be found and I hope all who are responsibly will be held responsibly and by just marrying Misty it isnt going to save you.. You all are saying Misty is doing dope I believe Ron is too he looked so high on NG show on several times. He isnt concern about his daughter at all.
She will be found I know she will. May God hold this precious little girl in His arms and hold Crystal through this all.
All they had to do was wait to one screw ball screw up and he did Hank jr screwed up and possibly accepted a plea deal and come clean the cops can say differently but it wouldnt suprise me at all.
When ron mention he wont be the person they will tell why would he make such of a statement. Cause he is involved in it and I am sure they are watching both of them like hawk.
I will be very direct and honest right now.. all the speulation on the what ifs in this case are not going to help, not right now.. Too many people are setting back waiting for some amount of conclusion. I think, we just need to set back, be a little patient, and please do not add anything that can accumplate into more rumors.. No More Rumors..
If LE in Satsuma would just quit lying to people, it would be easier to sit back and wait. The Sheriff’s office finally admitted today that they are searching relative to the Haleigh case. All those lies just feed the rumor mill. Who on the ground there can be trusted to tell the truth? Putnam CO Sheriff Office have not handled this well at all. Why wasn’t Misty or ROn thrown in jail immediately for “losing” a child under their protection? This would have been wrapped up, if Ron and Misty had been treated like they deserved, instead of being given privileges that no one else would expect to have.
BOLDONE3,
I wasn’t aware Ronald and Misty had already stated they had no keys to the back door – thanks for letting me know.
http://patrishka.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/haleigh-cummings-home.jpg
The link above shows the front of their home.
The link below is a graphic of their home’s floor layout. Notice where the front and back doors are located, then look in the image of the home. There is another home, or other large building at the back door side of the house.
http://patrishka.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/cummingshomelayout.jpg
If that is an occupied house, wouldn’t a person abducting a child choose to take the child out the front door, instead of out the back where residents of the house could look out a door or window and see them?
In an expanded view of the back door, Greta Van Sustern’s blog had a view of the back door (google Haleigh Cummings home) area which shows there are no trees or shrubs to block the view of someone entering/leaving the home through the back door.
What appears to be a screened porch is at the front door, and trees, bushes at the front of their former home that would have made an abductor less visible –
So, why would an abductor choose the back door, instead of the front?
Misty has been inconsistent about what she did immediately after awaking, and seeing the kitchen light on.
In one version of events, she mereley got out of bed and went into the kitchen because she saw the light was one.
In another, she got out of bed and went into the kitchen to get a drink of water.
In yet another, she got out of bed and went through thekitchen to go to the bathroom.
Which is it, or none at all?
If Ronald is correct, that their bed had never been slept in, then it is none at all.
Pretty simple, really – she embellished her ‘story’ with details about getting out of bed because the light was on, or because she had to use the bathroom, or because she wanted a drink of water, and then . . .
DRUMBROLL . . .
She saw the BACKDOOR PROPPED OPEN.
She has consistently said the backdoor was propped open.
Misty saw the back door propped open – yes.
Misty got out of bed because the kitchen light was on, because she wanted to use the bathroom, because she wanted a drink of water – no.
I speculate Misty did see the back door open, but she did not get out of their bed in the bedroom.
Ahh – well, now I’m clear about that.
Just hoping Haleigh is alive, and will soon be found.
rpb22,
Years ago, a young neighbor said he was going to a store and that he would be happy to drop my envelope, with check inside, at a U.S. Postal service mailbox outside the store.
10 days later, the envelope was returned to me, opened, sans check, with a note from the local postmaster explaining that when mail was removed from their box, my envelope was torn open, with a penny inside.
The mother of the boy questioned him for more than an hour, in my presence, and he simply denied over and over again, ever having done anything with the envelope except dropping it in the postal service box.
Since then, he has repeated the behavior – refusing to ‘fess up for even the smallest transgressions.
Misty Cummings reminds me of him.
Ronald’s behavior reminds me of the former police officer in Ohio – Cutty, who collapsed on the ground and wept while in a group searching for his missing, pregnant girlfriend.
Odd behavior, I thought at the time. I wondered why he would collapse and cry, instead of being determined to search, and search . . .
Turned out, Cutty murdered her.
Ronald’s moving out of his home, instead of staying and relishing the memories of Haleigh being there, and looking forward to her return, initially struck me as questionable behavior, but now I suspect it might be avoidance of good, or bad, memories.
Same goes for the tatoo. Obviously it his way of memorializing her memory – doesn’t mean he thinks she is deceased, as many people get tatoos of their living children.
nance, thank you so much for all your info and links!
mlee, I think it’s okay for us to theorize and speculate as long as we’re clear that’s what we’re doing. That’s what a blog is for. That and some venting of our feelings and frustrations.
There’s a big difference between that and starting some baseless vile rumor (like the one about Misty which I won’t even repeat).
Even if someone says for example, “Hey, I heard from a waitress at a diner in Satsuma that….” is okay. What WE need to pay attention to is the “I heard…” and recognize that we do not know this waitress or this blogger (who is only passing along what she heard). All of that is part of theorizing. Or it should be as long as we give it no more credibility than any other theory until we hear it from a credible source.
nance, I hear what you are saying about the tattoo but in my opinion it was so totally tasteless (what else would I expect anyway?LOL!)
And the timing was terrible! AND he put it on the BACK of his leg? His calf? Some psychologist would have a field day saying this shows him “putting Haleigh behind him.” LOL (except it may not be funny at all especially if it turns out to be true).
nance, have you ever considered he (Ron) had an inner fear of continuing to live there with misty and Little Junior.. Fearful that Little Junior might come up amiss.. That living with Grandma Sykes was protection for Junior..
m2c,
You’re good – you took the tatoo analysis a step further.
True, it is located where he can choose when to visit, or not, just as a final resting place is usually a place friends and relatives can choose when to visit.
The tatoo came days after public displays of grief, and so in that sense could be comparable to a tombstone memorial.
When my kids were little they used to hug my legs, sometimes hanging on while I walked & drug them around. It could be just that Ron has sweet memories of Haleigh there. Just an idea but this is all speculation. I would not get a tatoo period much less under these circumstances but I don’t think we can know what it “means”.
We don’t want analysis to the point of paralyzes. Treece
mlee,
That’s a really interesting consideration – I never thought of that.
If he had intentions of returning to his job, he may have been afraid, very afraid, to leave ‘butterbean’ alone with Misty.
Grandma Sykes, and other members of his family may have suggested, or even insisted, Ronald never leave his son with Misty.
Fear not, treece.
treece,
Thanks for bringing up a happy memory of dragging around the hangin’ on kids . . .
(:
It’s just one interpretation of why the tattoo is where it is. My first question is why get one? Particularly then? But to dispell any thoughts that I might seriously be casting suspicion on Ron because of the tattoo I have to say that I have known people who have really really poor taste (IMO) and even worse judgement and many of these people are often too stubborn or egotistical to listen to anyone who might advise them to do something different. So Ron may be “guilty” only of that (poor judgement and poor taste). And that’s just my opinion of course.
And yes I agree. In addition to the creepy crawlies that may have gotten into his MH Ron may well have wanted Jr to have someone else to watch him besides or in addition to Misty.
According to what little I’ve heard about statistics in situations where children have disappeared I believe that many couples are driven APART – to divorce. And that many – whether they are still together or if divorced, then one of them – stays in the house from which the child disappeared – never giving up hope the child will come home and not bearing to be able to leave. That’s MOST cases I believe so of course there are others – where parents are innocent – who behave differently. Or the move could have been because Ron was going to quit working and would not be able to afford the rent anymore.
I think we can all agree on one thing. Drugs were involved. Directly or indirectly. IF Misty was sleeping, she probably was all but in a coma after all the partying she had done all weekend. If she wasn’t sleeping, she left the kids alone to go continue to party.
As weird as Ron is, that doesn’t make him a killer. And until proof is shown, I will beleive Haleigh’s father had nothing directly to do with her gone missing. As far as tatoos go, Who Knows why he got one??? I never stated he thinks normal!! lol
They are going to find Haleigh this week. And I am sure Ron will be in jail in a matter of weeks for beating the crap out of Misty.
Ohhh I hope I am wrong on BOTH accounts. But I don’t think so. Someone knows something, and that is why ponds are being emptied, crews are back this weekend searching..the LE know something.
And for now, mums is the word!
Ron had keys. Misty didn’t.
Did someone else have keys?? I don’t know.
When Nancy Grace had her crew going thru the trailer, they said the screen door was propped open with the cinder block, and the main door was held open with some of the dirty clothes that were on the floor.
I know Haleigh will be found this week. The least dumbest of the group is going to squeal or has squealed already for a deal. And that is what the digging & draining is about. LE just announced (per Art Harris) that this search is officially about Haleigh.
How long before Ron ends up in jail for killing Misty??
Here is a link to the pond being drained and searched.
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/09/19/news/news01.tnv
If I remember correctly, didn’t the family have to break camp, and move prior to ron losing his job, and the trailer had already been cleared by le before the break in camp..
So, I’m not sure if the job had anything to do with the decision.
Today’s media release from Putnam County LE, compliments of Steph Watts blog page:
http://stephww.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/mediarelease1.pdf
mlee, what I remember reading in a mainstream news article was an interview with Ron’s former boss who said that Ron never returned to work after Haleigh disappeared. The man said he understood but thought Ron would call at some point but weeks and weeks (months I believe) went by. The man was holding the job for Ron but finally gave it to someone else. So essentially Ron “quit” but didn’t give any notice. He did not lose his job. He just quit going to it.
i am so glad ron is living with g.sykes. ron’s reason(s) could be one or more of many. maybe because he doesn’t hve enough money; g.s. is a good housekeeper and cook; he wants a witness around in case of any more accusations; he wants a built in babysitter; she is an extra pair of eyes against stranger dangers; he does want jr. to be safe from ? misty, himself, or both of them. or maybe even that grandma sykes is really good with ron jr. whatever the reason, i am soo happy they live with g. sykes, and that ronald jr. is safer for it. this child has been through enough. i wish ron, crystal, marie, g.sykes, grandma neves and the rest of his family could encourage jr. to have bigger dreams than some around him are now living.
How do you know Misty didn’t have keys?
And Boldone,you are wrong on most of what you say,you don’t have a clue,carry on.
Simon –
Where is the love of family?! What is so distressful is that there are so many children that have been abused – and killed – by the hands of those that should love and protect them the most – their own families.
Even though we do not know what specifically happened in the disappearance/probable murder of Haliegh we have been exposed to …
I look at the Cummings/Crostlin family – all ”poor white trash” – under-educated, cigarette smoking, half dressed wretches. Stupid People – Very Stupid People! Look at our day-time TV – filled with ”whos your baby’s daddy” shows and a thousand other programs that cast a very poor light on the American people.
It is of no wonder why extremists (of all brands – religious and political) are trying to kill the citizens of the USA – all they are exposed to is the vile underbelly of our great nation – porno addicted, sexually depraved, drug addicted, morally depraved, ung*dly killers of babies – that is who they think we all are.
As I stated in the previous article: Asking a question of others does NOT constitute a rumor. Asking if “evidence” could be remains is not starting a rumor. It is asking if that would fall into the legal category of just evidence versus an actual body. We ALL know what’s up here, we’ve been down this road before with other cases. Grow up, suck it up, and get ready for the hard blow to come.
Hi, Hollys g-mom! I must have missed the comment that you are responding to but I agree with you. Asking a question does not constitute starting a rumor. And I also wondered if the word “evidence” might be used to include “remains.” I think it probably could – like if LE didn’t want to announce finding something like that just yet. I can see them using the overall term “evidence.” Of course we’re still left guessing what, if anything, they found. But if LE wants to be tight-lipped about it we’ll just have to wait to find out, I guess.
Meanwhile some either silly or not-nice people (or both) have decided to start rumors on the net this weekend and we’ll just have to ignore them and wait for real info from the “real deal” (either reporters or LE).
Hi, Sara Jane – IN Parent!
If you think the world’s opinion of the USA is based on our television programs, then you should write the TV networks. Unfortunately, they think they’re providing the programs that the most viewers want to see. I don’t watch “daytime” TV and very little night-time TV so I can’t attest to any of that.
But I do watch and read news and I can tell you that plenty of crimes take place in ALL walks of life in ALL socio-economic classes and even by the “good Christian right” which it sounds like you may be a staunch member of.
Wearing shorts in FLORIDA in the summer is not an indication of a criminal mind. Niether is smoking (at least until that becomes illegal)
And neither is the level of someone’s education.
(Look at the college grads that are serial killers).
What I fear is that the world gets its opinion of the USA from people like you who judge others on such superficial terms and are as fanatical in their judgements as those who violently oppose us. Neither of those groups does the USA or the world any good because BOTH of them have the “I’m the only one who knows what is right” syndrome. And that’s where it all falls apart.
A little more love, kindness, charity and understanding please – on both sides – will do the most good. IMO
Winter Rose..And where are you getting your facts from?? The back of a cracker jack box?? What’s wrong, you don’t like what I have to say?? Too bad. Skip my posts!!
Misty didn’t have keys per her & Ron.
PAY ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!
Who cares who had keys and who didnt the fact is this Haleigh is missing. I doubt that she will be found alive I hope I am wrong.. Misty knows something and we can sit and think of alot of what to say I just have my thoughts and my OPIONION on the matter I just think that Ron is involve in it too.
AS for the USA people of all sorts of lives do what they do in their lives. There have been highly educated that have committed crimes as well. Its on the people on how they chose their own lives. It depends on what path of the road they want to take most take the wrong one.
gatorgirl, I have to disagree with one thing. I believe most people choose pretty much the “right” side of the road. We just don’t hear much about them. The ones that choose the “wrong” side make the news most often or make it in the most sensational ways, unfortunately.
The biggest flaw I’ve seen in what I’ve read about this case is where parents have put little or no emphasis on education. Like Misty’s mother.
When Misty stayed with an aunt or someone, she made Misty go to school. But she’d already missed so much she was behind and the work was really hard for her. Then she went back to live with her mother who let her drop out in 7th grade. Where were the authorities? If a parent doesn’t have the sense or isn’t sober enough or off drugs enough or smart or caring enough to see that their kids go to school and get help with their school work if they need it, then that’s when social services or someone should step in. But they are so understaffed and underfunded and busy with cases where kids are being physically injured or neglected that they don’t have time to help when it’s a situation of “benign neglect” (in that no physical harm is done). I think Misty has or will soon wake up to the fact that her “big dream” of marrying Ron lands her in the role of maid, cook and babysitter – for life. There is nothing else for her to do and I’m sure she is or will soon be bored to tears and very likely NOT emphasize education with Jr or her own children either.
That’s the vicious circle that needs to be stopped somehow. IMO
BOLDONE3 -Don’t worry about WinterRose’s comments. All I’ve seen are put-downs of other peoples’ thoughts and theories but none of her own. Only vague references to things SHE only knows! Which is a good position to take because then when the truth comes out the person can say “I knew it!” without having contradicted themselves! LOL!
M2C- I blame Misty’s parents for alot that has gone wrong. I personally, do not know any 17 year old who isn’t living at home where their parents are teaching them to be productive adults. What was a 17 year old living with a man 6 years her junior?? And taking care of his children?? Where were her parents that whole time?? Or the weekend NOBODY could find her because she was out partying?? Of course the parents are to blame.
I agree with what you are saying, but in my county they do if the school see’s your child missing so many days of school they do call the authorties on you, first they notified you first to see what is going on when they do you better have your ducks in a roll. I have seen it on the news where parents have gone to jail cause of their child not in school for a long period of time. It is on the parent to get their child the education if your child isnt doing well in school parents needs to pull a conference with the teachers and the child to see what they can do to help the child, the child might need extra help which is nothing wrong with that but lately it seems like parents now days dont give a care about their child and thats where the child gives up and starts going the wrong way some does and some doesnt.
Its all sad….
Gatorgirl…I agree with you. Who cares about keys?? Ron had a set. Why didn’t he give Misty a set?? Did he not trust her?? EIther way, up until these past few days, I really thought they would bring this little girl home safe.
I don’t think that anymore. Sad. Isn’t it??
M2C- Great post! Great theory!!
Have a good day!
But some children are so darn lazy and dont care either I parent can do so much but when they get that attitude with the parents skipping school, parents can be so hard on them but the teenager goes the other way cause they dont wont to learn or they are tired going to school. Its not all parents either.
Yes, they are! And she was 16 when she moved in with Ron (or became a full-time, live-in “baby-sitter.”) I thought there were truancy laws and that LE would hold parents accountable to a certain extent. Maybe they do in some places but I guess not in Satsuma. And that’s the OTHER vicious cycle – Generations that are 15 years apart instead of 20 – 25 years! But that’s all those girls can do besides party, I guess. Hook up officially or unofficially with some guy or have babies without a guy/husband. And/or go to jail. They have no other future to look forward to and no one is telling them different! You’d think that Misty’s mother would have guided her differently and same with the parents of some other people involved in this (Amber, NayNay etc). That’s the part that I don’t understand. And as a society we can’t complain about the results if we’re not prepared to insist that something be done about it – like provide proper care for kids with selfish and/or drug addicted parents who can’t be bothered.
Boldones3,
Good morning yes it is very sad. I understand what everyone is saying but I have to say something I was 16 yrs old living with my boyfriend who was a year older then me. I still finished high school cause that was my goal and I worked my butt off to achieve my goal. My mom didnt support me at all she was shocked that I was the only child of her’s finished high school. Before hand my mom taught me to how to clean and keep a house clean it isnt hard. Some people choose how they want to live their lives. Could Misty possibly have decided to stay in school instead of dropping out? Sh made the choose herself regardless mom was there or not. Everyone makes chooses in their lives some regrat it and some doesnt..
All of this is a sad situation I just pray that justice will happened and they are able to find her to bring her home to a proper resting place not in some damn pond. I dont understand I believe some people shouldnt have children but God blesses them with them and things like this happens it just aggravates me and ticks me off.
When there are people out there that cant have children or when a parent has to take their child off life support or a child as an illness when us parents fight and want them to live….
thats why i dont like to watch the news cause it is so full of evil things, people killing kids and later finds out its the parents that are responsible.
M2c,
Good morning, I agree it all needs to change. It just shows some area’s dont care at all. It is just crazy.. But I do think that people should be held accountable for their actions no matter how smart or not smart they are. What happened that night.. If Ron didnt trust Misty then why did he live his kids with her? I just believe and a feeling…. I just hope and wish they bring her home…
Good Morning to you GatorGirl…..Your story is heartwarming. And you are right. It is up to an individual to take responsibility for themselves. We should no longer blame the environment we grew up in to what has become of us now. Or what we can make of ourselves.
However, your story is the minority in cases like this. Unfortunately for our society, fortunate for you.
Alot of people don’t like to watch the news. The recent case of the man who kidnapped Jaycee and held her captive in the backyard for 18 years, makes me nausious! I can’t bear to watch or listen to that story.
We have an epidemic in our country concerning children. Helpless children. And it bothers the heck out of me.
xo
gatorgirl – Yes your determination is really to be admired!
But not all children are blessed with that. That’s why God invented parents (I believe) to guide their children in the right directions. If Misty had been able to stay with that aunt who made her go to school, who was trying to help her with her homework, who knows? I can’t blame children -even young teens – not totally anyway.
There are parents, relatives, schools, social services even LE ALL of whom are supposed to take an interest and help. And all too often one or more of them fail and then the child for sure fails. Really is just doomed. Except for a few rare cases like yours. Something must have inspired you, spurred you on, given you the idea that you could and should have a different life. Some kids don’t even see that – or they’re put down when they do by selfish parents who don’t want their children to succeed because then they’ll really look like the losers they are!
Boldone3
It is and I agree. All I do is pray for everyone in this crazy world. For this story we all have to wait and see what happens at the end we will all know what happened to Haleigh. I think LE has alot of information he just kept shut about. Which is smart on his in. Now we just wait, I know some of us think she is no longer with us and other thinks she is alive I wish I could say she was but the longer it goes on I just dont believe it. All we can do is pray. It will come out and I believe they are going to find her. I keep wondering if the evidence they found is her but they arent saying anything right now. Which can be understandable as well. I know most of us including are blaming Misty but if Ron didnt trust Misty why would he leave her in her care. Alot of the whole story doesnt make since and the things they do or did doesnt make no sense so it makes both of them look guilty. But we will see soon.
Have a great day
M2c,
I just sticked with it to prove that I could get through no matter how hard it was on me. Life isnt suppose to be easy there are going to bumps in the road its just how you handle them. My mom let my sister drop out of school in her 8th grade she was pregnant but that wasnt no excuse my brother dropped out his 11th grade. They didnt believe I would stay in but I did I walked in the rain on my graduation day the best thing I did for myself.
We will never know what the out come would be for Misty other then what it is now. But she should know right from wrong though. I am no fan for her but I do feel alittle sorry for her but not all much either. I just can tell from her and ron and those are my opinions
have a great day
Hi Simon,
Thanks for keeping us updated about Haleigh’s case. I am glad you, TJ, Cobra, & Art have rejoined forces, despite past differences. Haleigh is worth it.
It sounds like we are down to the dirty third dozen: Misty, Tommy, cousin Joe, & possibly Ron.
My thoughts & prayers go out to Haleigh, and her mom, Crystal. May Haleigh be found and get the justice she deserves when all is said and done.
– LisaE
gatorgirl – “Yes your determination is really to be admired!
But not all children are blessed with that. That’s why God invented parents (I believe) to guide their children in the right directions”.
Ohhh how I agree with that statement!!
I was so excited last week when I learned there was a possible Haleigh siting in Mass. That meant she was ALIVE! Which is what I thought all along. Until this week. And the pond. And the new search’s. My hope is dying Haleigh will come home safe. I hope I am wrong.
Ron & Crystal made some real stupid moves in the short time their child was with them.
However, nobody deserves to lose a child this way.
And I personally have to keep beleiving in the parents…..NOT Misty, but the parents.
gatorgirl: I’m not really sure that I feel sorry for any of these people either. But I can’t help wondering if things had been done differently by people who are supposed to be caring for children if things might not have turned out differently.
FOr example, I’ve heard of some cases where the parents of a kid are held accountable for what the kid did (like a crime). Well why not hold the parents accountable when the kid doesn’t show up at school, or is doing poorly and not getting help (even summer school). I think someplaces do hold parents accountable for kids being in school (and try to stop underage girls from shacking up with older guys) but not in Satsuma I guess.
I do feel sorry for Misty. If she is guilty of hurting Haleigh I think she needs to be punished.
However, I personally know a family alot like Misty’s family. Both parents are irresponsible, have addictions and are negligent with their 5 kids. Even when the kids want to do right they don’t know how. Two of the girls are in prison right now. One of them wrote me that they are scared of getting out because they have no place to go except that sick little town they are from and they know the drug scene there draws them like the devil himself. I don’t think she is bs ing
me. She really has that fear and can’t see any thing else. She has never seen anything else. Even the grandparents in her family are all sick, selfish, asses. Jail hasn’t taught her how to live. She’s there for hot checks and not paying probation. I know in her heart she wants to be different she wants to give her babies a different life but doesn’t know how.
If Misty nor Ron have keys to the back door how do they open it to take garbage out as misty referred on the interview with Greta.I keep reviewing that interview and believe they are both in it together.Misty seems like she doesn’t even feel like being on that interview.
NOBODY deserves to lose a child.
On the back door issue, I am little bit confused, now to the door handle itself, I can understand his not having keys..that might well be so.. but, purchased the dead bolt and installed it, and those do come with a set of keys. That is a granted.. Now, from the interviews there were 5 keys for the front door. who all had keys, I am not sure.. I do know that ron and misty had one.. I also know that misty lost her key and it had to be replaced. quite possibly the grandmothers had a key each. that would total 4, a replacement might be the 5th. I also picked up on a post that stated that there was a key on the key ring to the van.. cannot verify that. So, that is the key issue to my knowledge and research. Misty did have her own key…
BOLDONE3, you are absolutely right.. And to add, No child deserves to be wisk from their bed in the middle of the night, by anyone, and taken from the home, where a child feels safe and secure. Also taking that child away from its siblings, and leaving it with total strangers. This is totally uncalled for, and I feel in my heart we are deal still with a living, breathing precious Child.
Mlee-I hope your heart is correct. I really do. Nothing would make me happier than to reunite this precious child with her parents.
Crystal & Ron.
Time will tell. They are draining the pond on a “tip” they received. That is what bothers me. What may be found in the next few days.
I know we are all entitled to our opinions, but lets try not to blame the parents until the evidence is in.
Ron has been cleared. As has Crystal. That is coming from reliable sources. Whether we agree with their lifestyle or their parenting skills, we shouldn’t stand in judgement. They are living their own HELL right now.
As far as Misty goes…she is a child. A child!! A dumb child. If she knew where Haleigh was, by now wouldn’t she have broken to the authorities?? She isn’t smart enough to put one over on them. IMO she left the house that night,back door open since she doesn’t have a key, came home and Haleigh was gone. She is afraid of Ron and won’t reveal that she left the kids home alone.
Boldone3, why do you think Ron married Misty like that when Haleigh was missing?
Another thing that really bothers me is that Misty’s parents moved out of state during this time. Why would they not want to be there to support their daughter through this time. I can’t imagine leaving one of my kids in a mess like that, especially until it was solved.
I hope they find out what happend to Haliegh, Misty has to be the key to this. I am sure drugs are involved, she looked stoned the next day on the news.
I started a petition and asking for help of anyone that can post it on a web page of blog.
Stop the abuse and murder of the children in the U.S.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/16/stop-the-abuse-and-murder-of-the-children-in-the-us
Thank you, Pat
All of it doesnt make no sence at all. They havent been much of a parent to her so it shouldnt shock anyone. They must know something as well. It will all be solved and we all will know the truth…
Either way someone took the nerve to open the back door and leave both doors wide open and why take such an innocent child away.Poor Haleigh, I am really praying for you!
Boldone3, why do you think Ron married Misty like that when Haleigh was missing?
I DON’T KNOW. And that bothers me. WHY he stands by her publicly and married her. Don’t have the answer.
As far as her parents are concerned, IMO they don’t deserve to be called parents. So the fact they left town is of no surprise.
I hope we find out the truth. Alot of us put alot of thoughts and concern into this case. I hope it doesn’t come down to they find a body and never find out what happened.
Kinda like Caleigh Anthony.
Nobody knows how the mother killed her.
To clarify: When I said, “I’m not really sure that I feel sorry for any of these people either” it was not in relation to Haleigh’s disappearance. I’d been exchanging comments with someone about these people’s lives in general – like Misty’s lack of education, etc. We were talking about the lack of parental guidance and care that Misty had and perhaps a lot of the other people involved in this going back several generations. My comment had nothing to do with parents losing a child. That’s a totally different topic. (just in case someone misunderstood my comment)
treece – None of us are walking in any of these peoples shoes and we should be thankful for that. We are only on the outside trying to look in and understanding the actions of others can be hard.
Ron probably thinks he failed Haleigh as a Father in protecting her, so he could very well feel the need to try an protect Misty – no matter how much some people may not like her.
Misty is probably one of the most miserable persons in this case with all eyes focussed on her. In private, I’m sure there are many tears, and Ron no doubtedly seen them and this could have been a way to comfort her.
All of these people are grieving this little girl and the not knowing of details and they will all react differently. They are not thinking clearly. Who could?
Thank you Random Thoughts. It’s always a blessing to hear someone’s opinion that isn’t a negative one.
I read and reread your post. Very well said. Again, thanks for you smart wisdom!!
Deb
I believe Ron married Misty for 2 reasons, one was to avoid a statutory charge, just like when Ron asked the guy at the bus stop, when he seen Misty, Ron asked, what he thought, and the guy said..15 will get you 20 Ron..the other is as he said to keep her close,if she left and he thinks she does know something, he would have no clue what she’s up to or in contact with..Did you not see his interview, where he said, if he finds she has anything to do with this, her teeth will be in the back of her head..With the information we have now, I believe he does not know what happened for sure..I also believed he thought they might find Haleigh alive and is trying to be cautious,he knows perfectly well if Misty went out and left the Kids alone..He will lose custody and that is what I think he is protecting..one of those who took Haleigh is a molester,that is what I believe, and just maybe something had to be done with Haleigh because she can identify him..:(
You could be right Courious. He may have married her because of the statutory rape. However, I don’t for a minute believe that they are blissfully happy. And when and if it comes out she left the home that night, I am afraid for her what Ron will do to her.
And now her parents have turned on her?? Hard & Rough life she has going…….
I believe that Ron probably married Misty when he did because he was about to be arrested for statutory rape and surely would have been when they flew up to NY for the TV interview (which happened right after the “wedding.”) And it’s possible he did it to keep an eye on her.
I don’t see how he’d lose custody of Jr if Misty had something to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. I know she was a live-in but how many parents hire and pay for 16 year old babysitters whom they don’t know near as well as Ron knew Misty.
And why did her mom leave town? Possibly because the police were arresting Hank Jr for stealing the gun and the next house they went to was hers – but she was gone already. She was there when Tommy (Hank Jr) stole it however the person it was stolen from was not really sure who took it. Tommy or his mother. So she was about to get in some legal hot water. And YES! The Croslins haven’t cared about their kids – maybe ever! (And certainly not Misty)
Gatorgirl:
Part of your comment stood out to me. You said my mother taught me beforehand——. I believe the first 7 years in the formation of a child is extremely important. Everyone doesn’t have the same chance in life, and they don’t have the same intelligence or character as others. It hurts me to hear people called names and torn down to the lowest notch but,having said that, our laws have to be followed! If people are unable to follow our laws, especially concerning violence, they need to be put away and kept away from society. All of us should have the right to be safe from violence and many of the other sufferings that law-breakers bring upon us. Our justice system needs to be updated in the worst way, with tougher laws for child predators and many other violent crimes.
I believe that LE is trying really hard on this case, but they have lied and covered up way too much. How are we going to, ever, believe a word that they say about anything? Can they convict anyone in this case? Are we going to believe that they are impartial and telling the truth during the trials, and I do believe there will be a number of arrests before this is over.
Where did Misty’s parents go?? And when??
What I read is they moved to Tennessee around the same time Tommy got arrested for the gun.
They said they moved because the dad couldn’t find work. After the man pressed charges for the gun police went to question his mother to find out they had left town. I think moving in with her mother in Tenn.
Nice…parents leave town. I am sure they won’t win Parent of the Year award!!!
True, no way would I leave my child there. Never, never!!!!!
NG gave most of her hour last night to this case. As much as I detest NG, she will get answers!! Imagine her spending as much time on this case as she did Caleigh Anthony??
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