TJ Hart was kind enough to share the data he acquired today with me. Part of the ‘data dump’ that Putnam County released today about the Haleigh Cummings case was a phone call from Ronald Cummings to his grandmother Annette Sykes (that is an assumption). Ronald seems much more concerned about only having two pairs of boxer shorts and the laundry guy only comes on Tuesdays and Fridays.
Guess I have to wear these till Monday night, then I can put on my clean pair
What is missing in this discussion? There is no mention of Haleigh Cummings. The fact that the little girl has been missing for very close to a year does not seem to be an important aspect to Ronald.
I have heard numerous times that Ronald Cummings is not viewed as a primary suspect in the case by Law Enforcement, but he has also not been completely ruled out, no-one has.
What he opts to share with his grandmother really has little bearing in the case, but, I find it interesting that he makes no mention of his missing daughter. I am pretty certain that if my daughter was missing and the cops slapped me behind bars, I would be screaming about it, not discussing the laundry system, or the state of my boxer shorts.
Listen for yourself, make your own determinations.
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI think this is the most ridiculous story so far. Ronald has constantly begged for the public to keep this story alive so we can find Haleigh and he has one conversation about something other than Haleigh and now you say he doesnt care. That is so stupid. This guy may not be citizen of the year but he has tried to find out where Haleigh is.
I totally found the small talk a bit off. Not sure why LE decided that, that conversation should be released. What was the point of it?
Sunshine laws . all jail phone calls fall under the sunshine laws even Rons. Ron is very deceptive be careful about what he does say and doesnt. who is Cherry? jmo
he was set up like a bowling pin..entrapment big time
Simon,Why does he even need to ware any boxers at all.LOL!! And no Haleigh was not talked about.
He wants his chains really? And boxer shorts?
i am sorry i thought he was saying cherry and he is saying terry shoemaker his lawyer. I think he is just making small talk to GG Sykes to relieve her stress and tells stories about cards which from the background noise is not the case. imho
Why would he need to worry about snitches if he doesnt know anything? jmo
Something smells and its not Rons shorts why does he need to worry about snitches if he doesnt know anything to begin with? imho
What’s he doing? Planning a break-out with the laundry. (I just couldn’t resist.)
That was suposed to be a question mark after “laundry.” Oh, In my opinion, of course! (ROFLMAO)
I think the family are going to claim “frame up”. Yes, if there is nothing to tell, why worry about snitches? I want to know what Chad he is talking about and why is Chad so well known. I also think the letter is for his sister Crystal.
News Flash! Tire tacks leading to Ron Cummings only skid marks. Grandmother distraught over unsightly evident in boxers at PCSO……..
Ron knew this would be news fodder and he and Grandma Sykes are fully aware Haleigh is missing.
I would assume it is Chad elliott but I will have to check to see if he is in there. jmo
Jmo, Ron is a private person and know his calls are recorded, he’s not about to spill his innermost thoughts to please bloggers. I also don’t blame him for wanting clean undies, I would too.
Why in the world would they want to waste time releasing audio about Ron’s boxer shorts? Seriously?
I would love to know how LE is working this. I’m sure there is a lot more to what they are trying to do.
Ron may not win Father of the year, but his baby girl is still missing. He has made really bad choices and ultimately it cost him his child. I really don’t believe Ron is directly involved, but just by the choices he made. I could be proven wrong, but I’ll take the chance. I’m sorry, but I can see the pain in his eyes. He tries to play the tough guy but I don’t think he’s as tough as he pretends to be.
It doesn’t matter what he say’s. It’s going to be picked apart. He’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.
I’m on pins & needles just waiting for the truth about Haleigh. Misty is definitely freaking out. I hope Padilla stays out of this. Let LE do their job. If she’s this freaked out after only 8 days, how is she going to be after 80?
Tobias, his drawers have got to be at least a tad smelly, too.
Well, Your mother said to tell you that (Pops?) said to tell you that be careful what you say because they got a snitch in there with you.
Sounds to me like first of all he knows full well he is recorded, second trying to clam down granny, third he is in jail for drug trafficking so yes he may need to be careful who he speaks with..these are not petty crimes.
Who cares really, this is what I expect short call talking about his needs…….Misty seems very greedy…..get everyone to send her money…get some minutes on them phones…does this girl every think of someone else besides herself? EVER
Nope he isnt in right now. dont know who the chad is, could be anyone.
From what I saw there were two Chads listed, one last name Douglas, LaBanca…I only skimmed through the list, not thoroughly.
SAW THAT TOO FROM LAKE COMO.
yes and Simon, that just may be because you are not Ron Cummings……..So, why do you expect him to act as you would?
If my kid went missing I would not behave as Crystal did but I am not yelling from the rooftops that I expect her to do as I would.
No doubt Ron and his grandma have spent a great deal of time talking about Haleigh over the past 12 months.
If I was locked up in prison and had to wear dirty underwear, I would certainly hope that if I told someone about it they would bring me some new underwear.
I think he knows that if GMA had anything to tell him about Haleigh, she would. I see absolutely nothing wrong with the call. I would have thought it odder if he was happy wearing dirty boxers.
i WOULD NOT BE IN JAIL IN THE FIRST PLACE AND YES IF i WERE i WOULD BE ASKING IF mISTY HAD SAID ANYTHING YET ABOUT hALEIGH.JMO
Teresa and Annette talked to Jeff Hardy and asked for ‘special visiting privelages’, eh?
Special, oh so special, they must think they are because Jeff told them they can visit twice a week, instead of once every other week.
Now that they know their conversations are recorded and available to the public, do you think they’ll write letters instead of visiting?
Jeff Hardy is so funny. Gives them ‘special privelages’ because he wants to listen in!
Jeff Hardy may have allowed them special visits because he is compassionate, knows Haleigh is missing and knows Ron is very upset about it. He probably knows Ron had nothing to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. If LE were going to listen, they would have done it covertly over the last 12 months with phone wire taps and listening devices. It’s not like it’s a secret that visits are recorded and distributed to the public.
Llisa, I was thinking the same thing. It’s always all about her. Where does she think her parents are supposed to come up with all this money?
She didn’t want anything to do with Cobra when he was trying to help her before. She sure has changed her tune about that now.
I haven’t heard her even mention poor Haleigh.
Leonard Padilla STAY AWAY! No one wants you.
me, re your February 4th, 2010 at 8:01 pm post:
Yes, I thought it was a perfectly normal conversation — at the beginning, but towards the end it sounded a little off. Something doesn’t seem right about it. I guess that’s how I came up with the joke about planning a break-out. A little humor does help to relieve the tension. Maybe Ronald was having his little joke?
LP on NG, says he will only get her out AFTER if she gave up info about HaLeigh and it panned out.
News Flash! Tire tacks leading to Ron Cummings only skid marks. Grandmother distraught over unsightly evident in boxers at PCSO……..
Ron knew this would be news fodder and he and Grandma Sykes are fully aware Haleigh is missing.
rOBERT fIELDS HAS TO APPROVE AND FROM WHAT IS SAID ON THE PHONE CALLS HE ISNT GOING TO ALLOW IT SO THAT IS THE END OF IT UNLESS mISTY FIRES HER LAWYER. aND THAT WOULD BE FOOLISH .IMHO GOOD NIGHT ALL
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 4th, 2010 at 8:15 pm LP on NG, says he will only get her out AFTER if she gave up info about HaLeigh and it panned out.
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That does seem consistent with his character the way he revoked the bond for CA.
stormgardener, I too am a nervous wreck waiting to hear about Haleigh. I see the pain in Rons eyes and the love in them when he is looking at his kids.
me said, I agree Ggm Sykes and Ron didn’t have to tell each other how much they love and miss Haleigh they know how each other feels.
omfg their starving her now…her father is an a$$..won’t put chumpchange on her phone, what a guy.
I said the same thing to myself and on my board about the boxer shorts and no mention of Haleigh.
I also mentioned that it seems both sides of the family are completely delusional. They all love, love, love each other but when they are together all they do is fight, put headless rats in mailboxes, narc each other out and trade places in the Grey Bar Motel.
I’m waiting to see if anyone noticed what NG did tongight.
alethea, I didn’t get to see it, what did she do?
@treece, it looked to me like she twisted what Misty said. I guess I’ll have to re-watch (groan). (I do try to see all sides.)
Lets see… NG tried to berate her staff for feeling sorry for Misty, she gave a list of food Misty had consumed, talked major shit about Misty wanting to be bailed out, particularly she did not like Misty wanting to use her granny’s money. Basically put her in the same light as Casey.
Typical addict in jail withdrawing from drugs!!!!!!! It’s all about ME.
alethea & Beautiful adams, thank you both for answering.
NG is a disgrace. I hope the Duckett’s do well in their case against her. I wonder why the Duke boys never sued her….I wish they would. And I hope, that if it’s discovered misty had nothing to do with Haleigh going missing, that she sues her too. Nancy is a silly and irresponsible quack.
You’re welcome Treece!
Where are the rest of the tapes???
Treece and alethea: Glad to see you both here. I think one or both of you took my question to Alethea the wrong way earlier. I asked Alethea if she really believed Misty could be in danger because I’ve thought so for a long time and was glad to see someone else thought so too.
With LE pointing at her all this time, a lot of negative public feelings and the possibility that someone could think she would talk (if she knew anything) I’m surprised nothing happened before. Now, it could be worse because that person knows that M’s facing long prison terms.
Hopefully this is not the case. I really don’t want to see anyone harmed and certainly not see anyone take the law into their own hands before we even know what happened to Haleigh or who is responsible.
Just wanted to clear that up! It was a sincere question, Alethea. No reason to get mad at me.
LP revoked Monster Anthony’s bail when he heard about the decomp in the trunk.
Interesting angle, though, if LP is dangling the possibility of bail in front of M as a sort of “reward” for telling what she knows (if anything) to LE. A little “bonus” on top of any negotiating they will have to do on her sentence. So if all that doesn’t work, I’ll have to conclude that she does not know anything to tell.
beautiful*adams (cent) re your post in February 4th, 2010 at 9:06 pm.
That was a pretty good summary!
Yes, she is obviously in withdrawal and not thinking clearly! I was doing something else at the same time, but it looked to me like when M’s grandma told her she didn’t have the money, it did get through to her and she asked her to just relay a message (to her father?). So NG goes on and on about this wicked teenager trying to take her grandmother’s money at all costs. That’s certainly not how it looked to me.
This latest video it seemed to me M was more clear-headed but I don’t think she’s quite there yet. Let’s hope for a change for the better. I wouldn’t presume to guess what NG hopes for. Just my opinion.
m2c♥, consider it cleared up!
Have a good night, all.
me @ 8:11 pm : You said, “If LE were going to listen, they would have done it covertly over the last 12 months with phone wire taps and listening devices.”
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Very interesting thought. If LE did NOT do that I have to wonder if it’s because they did not have sufficient reason (probably cause?whatever it’s called ) to get a warrant for the taps. And if they didn’t, what does that tell us about what LE “knows” that they’re not telling us? (sounds like not much)
alethea! THANK YOU! I am so glad to hear that!
Have a great night and hopefully “see you” soon!
‘night all!
m2c…interesting observations.
If LE had anything of substance on them, you’d think they would have bugged their homes, cars, phones etc, and someone would have talked by now…if there was anything to talk about. Maybe they have been listened to, and LE heard nothing? Or perhaps LE didn’t have the evidence to get authority to do it. It’s been a full year and a girl with a 5th grade education has outwitted and outsmarted them???….somehow I doubt it.
Based on what Hardy said yesterday, it sounds to me like they have little to nothing on Misty, and are moving away from their ridiculous “Misty is the key” statements.
LP is a fool…he’s basically offering her money in return for a confession…a confession obtained in exchange for promise of a monetary benefit is worth nothing.
I caught most of Nancys show, you guys are right. She’s being extremely cruel and twisting words to make Misty look worse than she already does.
Where’s the evidence to support this treatment?
m2c♥ said,
in February 4th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Treece and alethea: Glad to see you both here. I think one or both of you took my question to Alethea the wrong way earlier
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I don’t get this.
I thought you ask a sincere question.
I gave you my sincere opinion of it.
Tobias! You usually ignore me, but I’m happy to keep trying, tell me please:
what law says a lawyer has to approve a bond for their client?????
Me,
Cummings isn’t supposed to be treated any different than the other jailbirds,
Jeff Hardy feels compassion for only one of the prisoners?
Misty sounds like a typical immature teenager and the baby of the family as well. She was obviously spoiled rotten in a dysfunctional kind of way. They all talk about “minutes” or lack of on their phones. The Croslin group seem to live on the edge with no money. Earlier someone said they felt bad for Hank Sr. I have not heard him take responsibility for any of this. He doesn’t act like a parent at all. He looked/sounded like he was on coke or crack or amphetimines. The glasses, fidgeting, etc… I don’t know that for sure – just looked that way.
I haven’t listened to all of it. I wish one of them would talk about Haleigh – at least how much they miss her. She deserves that.
The jailhouse 5 seem to be in their own world, oblivious of anything except the trivial things that seem to be important at the moment.
Ron in need of clean shorts, and Misty wanting visitors and her cell phone and more momey for her commissary food/snacks.
Don’t they realize the seriousness of what they have done? Drug shopping instead of searching for Haleigh?
With the vigil coming up for Haleigh, what a disgrace it is that the father is sitting in jail while his daughter has been missing for a year.
Ron almost has the attitude that it’s some kind of vacation while Misty is moaning and groaning to be out and about.
They all disgust me.
Gosh guys, thats not all he talked to Grandma Sykes about today.. and what you missed!!!
Jmo, the calls do NOT show how much Ron loves HaLeigh. None of your biz bloggers.
ron and misty live the lifestyle they were brought up in..getting hi and selling a few pills is not “trafficing”..they are being way overcharged for political reasons..the police force look like idiots but to save face are trying anything to squeeze them..
Thank for all you do..Jan, Simon, TJ
UPDATE:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=151622&provider=rss
First Coast News Jacksonville, Fl
2-4-10 Updated: 9:18 p.m. EST
“Misty Croslin Speaks to Friends, Family in
Jailhouse Phone Conversations”
treece at 9:43 pm –
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That’s great, Treece! I thought maybe you had but glad you didn’t! No worries! I apologize for misunderstanding!
me @ 9:40 and 9:41 – I agree. I think LE will require some proof of whatever M may say, though, so she shouldn’t be able to say just anything and then get bail. LE would be sure to check on that. Maybe LP said that as a first side-step away from the huge mess he made in offering bail in the first place!
UPDATE:
http://www.wesh.com/news/22469264/detail.html
WESH Orlando, Fl
2-4-10 Updated: 9:38 p.m. EST
“Family to Hold Prayer Vigil for Haleigh Cummings”
Update: Nancy Grace Show Transcript 2-4-10
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1002/04/ng.01.html
Nancy Grace Show (CNN) Transcripts
2-4-10
“Bounty Hunter Offers Croslin Bond for Information”
I don’t believe Ronald had anything to do with Haleigh going missing but lets be honest here it is clear he made life choices that placed Haleigh at high risk. Misty is not Haleigh’s biological mother she has not been in the father’s life for months and she was a child herself at the time. How can anyone expect her to react with emotions of a mother when she clearly is not the child’s mother, apples and oranges. I would highly recommend people spend time in a confined space as she is and find out what happens to the mind. Easy to look at from the outside much harder to do. I hope no gets Misty out I hope she gets the education and help she needs completes her sentence and moves on…far away. When she finds her way to freedom is with in she will adjust and survive fine. There should be no special treatment for anyone it suggests abuse of the system and of position leaving some to wonder what else is abused. Does this department ever play by the rules or do they just have their own?
I think Jeff Hardy should attend my support group of survivors who parents placed in high risk as the parents in this case have done. Hear for one moment from the horses mouth of confinement, torture, beatings, rapes, and then get a vote on special privileges. Unbelievable!!!
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
DustyRose, it is hard to know where that balance is. How many teens babysit and are nannies, how many children are left with older siblings while parents work. Hind sight everyone would have done things differently. However, I don’t think we can say that parents who are going to work and leave their children with teen siblings or teen babysitters are being negligent.
I agree,God bless Haleigh and family.
And also, look at poor Jessica Lunsford’s case, taken with her grandparents at home sleeping. Was it the parents fault because they had a night out? People should not be blamed for the loss of their children, the perps should.
treece said,
I disagree because Haleigh was left in the care of a person who had just come off a three day binge had been up several hours and had gone through an emotional work out. Also Misty had requested twice not to baby sit as she was to exhausted. Based simply on exhaustion I would be concerned if a fire started, child got up and played with scissors, choked and died crying out unheard. That is not healthy choices to me I understand he lost a child but as I learn of his choices it is clear his choices placed this child at high risk. Asking some one in this state is negligent in of its self IMHO.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
It amazes me that Misty(and her family)has no concept of how much money would be needed to bail her out. The inability to even calculate what 10% of $50,00 let alone the 1.3 million dollars is an example of how little she understands about her predicament, and how poorly educated she is. As often as they have had run ins with the law, you would think they could figure out how much bonds costs. In a way I feel sorry for her, she is really not grasping how long she will be in jail if she is convicted of even one of the charges.
At least Ron understands he will not be getting out.
What an absolute disaster this family is, and it just keeps getting worse!
I really don’t understand people thinking this is overkill on the drug charges either. They were dealing drugs, drugs that ruin people’s lives with serious addiction. If you don’t want to end up in jail, you don’t deal drugs. And they spent enough time with people in that lifestyle to know “don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time”.
The bail is usually determined based on the amount of time you are facing. And Misty is facing some serious time for the many (more added everytime she talks about it) charges she has pending.
She needs to sit in jail and detox, and come to grips with the reality of her situation. I hope Lenny does not bail her out. Her lawyer is not helping her by telling her to stop talking about what she did in those drug deals either.
Mostly I just shake my head, and feel sorry someone so young could mess up their life so completely.
I don’t know if she has any information that will help find Haleigh, but she is where she belongs at this point.
I still say a prayer for Haleigh every nite. We can hope something good comes out of all this.
IMHO Ron needs to be more worried about dear Haleigh than he is about dingle-berries. And why does it always come back to laundry?
And DustyRose, I agree. The lack of wisdom in this case is evident. There is no wisdom. Or good judgment. Only the selves of the the adults. That becomes more evident as we see their characters unfold. They may have a superficial “love”, at best, but what they care for really is their own comfort in the moment.
*neither here nor there,
~Khaki
DustyRose, I do see your point. But Misty had come home the day before. Ggm Sykes brought laundry over there that evening. I know if Misty would have been out of it she would not have left those kids there.
I have not seen any proof that Misty requested not to baby sit. Can you tell me where that info is? Thank you
I’ll bet the other inmates aren’t happy about Ronnie getting more visitation time and days, than they do.
What nerve Teresa Neves has to even ask Jeff Hardy to treat Ron better than the other inmates.
treece
In jail house conversations, yes Misty had come home the day before but was up the night with Ronald hashing out the relationship issues. My daughter in law prior to having her gall bladder taken out would have attacks often sending her to emerg in the middle of the night. My son works days so he would be gone but not before asking if someone could come over and watch baby until Mom recovered and rested well just in case anything happened with baby, they would both ask and she was not on three day binge prior to that. It’s not just that it is apparent that Ronald has more going on than originally thought “drug dealing” and family makes effort to keep it secret. From the perspective of not wanting to be caught doing that I understand but that is not all that is on the table. How does LE now know for sure that he has been completely forth right about who is around him from that world. Why is Tommy telling Lindsay not to speak better yet why is she listing to him. WTFlip is with the self esteem issues here. I don’t agree with getting Misty out either she needs to take responsibility but not with her life. I don’t know what the answer is but I would not gamble on one and I would not rule out someone attached to Ronald and what he is involved in.
I understand he lost a child but the child has payed for poor choices. Whether alive or not the price is to high anyone making that poor of choices has no business making the choices in the first place. I feel for him but I feel more for Haleigh
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
Good morning!
It makes no sense to me that M would say that she didn’t want to baby sit that night because she was too tired.
1) She and R had slept a little the night before because they overslept and were late getting Haleigh to school.
2) Supposedly R and M napped after that until he went to work (although I don’t know what poor Jr did if the adults were napping)
3) If M was so tired, she’d want someone to take care of the children after R went to work until the kids’ bedtime which would have been that afternoon and early evening! NOT after that! Not “that night.”
4) And if she was so tired, why wait until 10pm to go to bed? Why not lie down when or shortly after putting the children to bed at 8pm?
Fishy, fishy, fishy.
About the currently incarcerated “not mentioning Haleigh” much or at all on these calls:
Many understandable reasons (IMO) including the fact that we have not heard all the calls and some of what was said has been redacted by LE. I expect much of what LE would be interested in redacting would be any mention of Haleigh.
As far as TN asking to see her son more often than is usually allowed – what mother wouldn’t? Oh, I supposed there are some mothers who wouldn’t give a hoot. Anyway, I’m sure Hardy is more than happy to oblige in the hopes that TN or R will say something to help his “investigation.”
About R asking his Gma for clean underwear:
Is there anyone on this board who – in the same situation – would NOT ask the same thing?
Maybe it’s best if anyone is going to answer “No” to that question, don’t tell me. I’d like to think that everyone here has at least the same basic standard of hygiene that R has.
I must say that when I first heard of this case and saw Ron thrown on the ground in a panic I thought he was somewhat over re-acting. I then gave him the benefit of the doubt and thought well, he is really taking this hard. Who wouldn’t? No one knows what it feels like to have a missing child unless it’s happen to you, and everyone reacts different. As I watch the rest of the interview where he shifts from the grieving devastated father to a non shall-ant individual my hinky meter started rising.
He then has his car lettered to say “ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME”. Well at that time most felt it was a stranger abduction, who was judging? Was he already in panic mode that he had to advertise to the public that ONLY GOD COULD JUDGE HIM? AND OF WHAT?
THE LYING,DRUGS,SLEEPING WITH YOUNG GIRLS, AND NEGLECTING HIS SON? PEOPLE CAME FORWARD ON BEHALF OF HALEIGH AND JR. AND DFS DID NOTHING TIME AND TIME AGAIN!!!!
I later notice that most of his “Plea’s” for Haleigh were when ever something negative was said about him or when ever he got in trouble with the law.
I also, notice when ever Misty would slip up, shift her story. Ron would come to the rescue, make a Plea for Haleigh…scream out to the public that this was about Haleigh, not his personal life.
He wanted to keep the focus on Haleigh, yet he marries the last person to so called be with Haleigh.
Ron later admits Misty was out parting for 4 days and sleeping around, and trusted this Key to the investigation around his 4 year old son….yet he wanted this to be about Haleigh. How can anyone over look the obvious?
I later learn that LE was trying to track down Ronald Cummings and Misty for months…4-6 months to try and get more statements and they both ducked the investigators. Why?
Especially Ron, he said he had had nothing to hide he was at “Werk”…(This is a known fact, check out LE’s past comments right before they said Ron and Crystal were cleared. Ron nor Misty would come in for questioning.
LE cleared Ron and CS, We all know that can change…food for thought!)
Something else to keep in mind, if by chance the time clocks were broken at PDM that night, he would of had to been in sight of someone at PDM to account him being there from 4pm-3am. He could of left and came back. LE has never openly stated what hours Ron was at work why? They only say they are satisfied…food for thought!
The fact that Ron avoided LE is when my mind was made up 110% that Ron knew much more and Misty is just keeping his secret.
She now has his name on her back side to remind her who is watching her and she better not slip up “IMO”.
Will Misty have the guts to reaveal the truth? In a way I don’t see her affraid of Ronald, I see her more affraid for herself and maybe Ronald has planted a seed in her head telling her “If you ever tell the truth” the blame is all going to be on you because you were the last person to “Say you were at the MH the night Haleigh went Missing”.
I have always wondered why Ron did not call 911? He had to tell Misty to call? If my child was missing when I got home from work I would not tell the sitter to call, I would call myself. Neither of them knew Haleigh’s weight, what she had on before bed, and Ron saying on the 911 call that he had more important people to call made it even more questionalble. Who would be more important to call than 911/LE when your child is missing??????????
Him reaching out to get the first word out after his arrest with the interview he did with Dana also made me feel he was trying to get a message across to some..
The one phone call that was released of him talking to his grandmother was nothing more than him talking about his boxers and her telling him to watch what he says in jail, watch out for the snitch in there.. per his mother and pop….If he has nothing to hide, why does he have to watch what he says?
TN claims when Ron would call from jail he was crying over the children and asking about the search for Haleigh, well the one call we heard did not sound like a grieving father to me…
JMO
Good morning all, hang in there everyone, I think we will have resolution in this case before too much longer, Misty seems on the verge of a breakdown, I think the next few days will be critical, and timing most of all.
M2c, about the underwear, of course I would be worried about clean underwear, but I wouldn’t spend the whole precious phone call yakking about it, and describing the details of the laundry schedule. That would be better done in a letter, IMO, and he mentioned he had already written several.
Mornin’ DramaQueen!
I understand but not knowing how long a mailed letter would take, I can see asking for it on the phone! Might get a new pair sooner! LOL!
I can also see talking about mundane, everyday things sometimes. Lots of reasons for that!
And didn’t R and Jr live with grannie up to now? So I expect everything that could be said about Haleigh has been said. No need on the phone call. And IMO if he’d said anything about Haleigh, others would criticize him for that (accusing him of making it up or faking).
The guy has sunk about as low as anyone can go and people are still kicking him. (IMO).
MADJG – I can see why you have the opinions you do and you may be right.
On a couple of points, though, I had a different thought. When I heard about the “Only God Can Judge Me” sign on the car I thought it related to the public’s outrage about him shacking up with a teenage girl.
I know LE interviewed M for 30 hours and gave her one or two LDT’s. Not sure how long they interviewed R but I’m sure it was a LONG time on more than one occasion. Frankly, if I’d told LE everything ten times and they were still so inept that they kept coming back to me instead of looking for my daughter, I’d have my lawyer tell them to jump off a cliff too.
As far as anyone’s appearances on camera (re: R faking being upset). How does a human being control how he/she is supposed to behave for the cameras? We don’t know if that person cried their eyes out in bed the night before and is completely cried out (for the moment).
People are reading meaning into things that isn’t justified IMO. It could be correct or it may not. We do not know.
yeah well if peeps are still kicking RC while he’s down it’s because he turned himself into a low life drug dealer, and drug dealers sell to children, they don’t care who buys as long as they have money. So I say (kick) there you go you scum, because it could have been one of my seven grandchildren that he sold drugs to.
DramaQueen: Your grandchildren would have had to agree to buy the drugs and I’m sure they would not. Also, do we know that R sold drugs to kids?
I’m not trying to be argumentative, DramaQueen, but a lot is being assumed and lot of things “read into” things (not talking about you in particular – lots of people are doing that) and to me it’s “here we go again” on the assumption/rumor train.
Also, I have no doubt that LE will put R away for a very long time with the charges they have against him. That’s enough for me.
Why we talking underwear?
Please don’t read into anything in that conversation other than he asked his grandma to bring him clean underwear.
Like someone stated earlier, his grandma and him have talked plenty about Haleigh in the past year. They both know nothing more needs to be said over the phone.
MADJG,
I have to agree that when I heard that Ronald said that he had more important people to talk to than police that weren’t going to do anything made me instantly think something was up. The police would be my best friends if my child was to come up missing.The more help the better! jmo
Goodmorning m2c,
I am concerned as to why Ron was warned to be careful of what he says that there is a snitch in there with him. LE has all the evidence pertaining to his charges. That is why LE is calling it a slamdunk. Why should they even worry about a snitch being in there with Ron, unless there is something else he could incriminate himself with. Ron needing clean boxers is only a hygiene problem.
I would like your take on why Ron gets special treatment on his visitations. I personally do not agree with that. He needs to be treated the same as the others.JMO
I have to say I do feel sad for the Croslin family. I guess I just hate to see families ripped apart, but unfortunately this is what happens when you live the way they were all living.
Michelle your post Feb 5, 2010@ 9pm, I agree with you. Who else better than police could he have called to help?
@looking, the people he thought took Haleigh ? I got that impression from the get go, that he pretty much knew who had her and wanted to call them to make a deal, or make arrangements to pay them the money he owed them, (theoretically here peeps don’t slam me please I am not trying to make trouble) but he sounded to me like he knew exactly who he needed to call. That being said, if that was the case, then why do those people still have her? Where is she? After a year he still wasn’t able to make the amends he needed to? IDK, I am just taking things as they come and not trying to read too much into anything.
Sorry m2c, I was just being bitchy earlier.
Hi, looking for justice! Earlier someone had criticized TN for asking for more time to visit with R than the usual time allotted to everyone. I said, “what mother would not ask that?” Perfectly understandable to me! It’s Sheriff Hardy’s decision. If he decided to give them more time – as I said before – I think it’s so there’s more chance of LE hearing something of interest. The other possibility is that Hardy would be perfectly happy to help alienate R from the other prisoners.
About the 911 call, as Michelle said, “the more help the better!” The cops were already called, Haleigh’s disappearance already reported, so why not think of calling others? I think he called his mom. Not sure if he called anyone else.
Obviously from what R said he didn’t think LE were coming or not coming fast enough but lots of people feel that way when calling 911. I don’t see anything necessarily suspicious about that.
Also, R may not have had much confidence in LE (like some of us who have not had any run-ins with them! lol!) So maybe he wasn’t sure they’d really come. Who knows? I just don’t see anything suspicious about it. In fact if R and M planned the 911 call -or it was fake or whatever- they did a really lousy job. IMO
DramaQueen. I thought that could be it. There are those in Putnam County that say Ron belonged to the Mexican Mafia. On day one everyone there stated that had he paid his drug debt; he would still have his daughter. You know how rumors fly so I turned a deaf ear to the talk. I am just not so sure now. Perhaps there was some truth in all those ( what I call rumors ) after all. This scares me because those kind of people are ruthless and have no compassion.
Ronald has so much pain for his missing child that he spent a whole year searching for her. First by getting her picture tattooed on himsself, marrying Misty, media talks mostly guiding Misty as to what to say during interviews etc., divorcing Misty, remaining friends/relationship with Misty. By the way he initially chose drugs before Haleigh went missing and later on chose drugs and Misty on drugs when Haleigh went missing. And, for the love of his children he chose drugs and Prison. With that said, God Bless Haleigh!
Ronald and Misty have to pay the consequences for their choices and illegal activity.
DramaQueen @ 9:58pm Thank you and NO worries!
We’re all “het up” about this and I am very glad that you are not mad at me!
Good point about R mentioning the first people he thought of who may have taken her. Some thoughts on that:
1) bio-mom side (given all that history etc)
2) certainly old or recent enemies whether connected with drugs or not.
I would expect that since LE heard him say that they would have grilled him about who he meant. IF he told them, did they follow up on it?
@looking, ITA, it scares me too
m2c thank you for responding and you are right they did a very lousy job.
lynn I can see where you are coming from.
I will join you and say GOD BLESS HALEIGH!!
I always wondered why he didnt make the 911 call since Misty was so out of it. She was only a stupid b— girlfriend anyways according to Ron. He would have most of the info on her description, and then he could have relayed that the backdoor was open.
I am sure they had time to discuss what happened before they called. Just hit me as odd. And why does Misty always say we, our,not I or me she talked in plurals on the 911 like Ron was there the whole time. just thought it odd. jmo
Ron needs to use his sink in his cell and wash out your undies dude. Many of us who backpack and camop do this. Evidently he wants GGMa to do his laundry still. jmo
Someone needs to tell him before bed wash em out in the sink and they will be dry in the morning. Gee how helpless can you get? jmo
Maybe they aren’t really talking about laundry….I haven’t listened yet, but maybe…..
Tobias He was at work. He don’t know.Misty was there she should have all the answers.
I have always thought it was strange that we never heard Jr. in the background. Noone consoling him. I do not think he could have slept through all the yelling for Haleigh and looking underneath the beds. Plus if the beds were made where was he sleeping?
http://www.ocala.com/article/20100205/ARTICLES/2051007/1001/NEWS01?Title=Figures-tied-to-Haleigh-s-case-expect-prison-time
The Ocala Ocala, Fl
2-5-10 Updated: 8:43 a.m. EST
“Figures tied to Haleigh’s case expect prison time”
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Notice the second paragraph from the bottom of article . . . about what Fields is going to advise Misty to do re Padilla!
Call ended kind of abruptly after he was told he couldn’t have his chain.
Hgm, THOUGHT THE SAME THING WHEN GGMA HAS A PAD ALREADY THERE TO WRITE ON. mAYBE CODE? JMO
Hi,Tobias (10:40 a.m.)!
Made me LOL! It’s not like Ron is working up a sweat in manual labor as in a job requiring physical labor!
Hi,HollysGMom at 11:02:
I could not figure out what he meant by chain when I listened to the tapes yesterday.
A light bulb just went off for me! LOL He meant necklace, right? I never heard anyone call a necklace a chain.
Anyway, Ron is in jail. He does not need a “chain.” He’s not at a party!
when he asks what do I need, well how about a pencil sharpener duh. Who asks for jewelry?
Really gets to a point made by some pyscologists that talked about him being narsistic doesnt it.jmo
In the call Ron made its all about him. and why would gg sykes care if any of hopes boyfriends are in jail? That was a wierd statement dont ya think? And the snitch comment ,why worry about a snitch unless you are hiding something. And that family must know he may be.jmo
I find Mistys calls and Rons calls very different one is really scared and one is confident, one is wanting to be bailed and the other is worried about comfort while in jail,
one is wanting food and the other wants jewelry, one wants pictures and calls and the other says dont worry I wont talk long. See the differences in the calls? Ron is almost confident and Misty is afraid she is going to be there forever. jmo
And who in the heck is this guy called Talent and why does Misty keep bringing his name up in several calls. He is said to be coming to visit in the earlier calls but in the video of her dad he says Talent wont come or call. Just odd.jmo
Hi, Tobias! So do you think M should be acting more like R? Or R acting more like M?
I’m not surprised they sound different. One reason is that even if R felt the way M seems to he’s got his macho image to keep up, right?
He’s not going to act like a crybaby in front of his fellow jail-mates or in front of the world. Remember he said he wasn’t afraid of going to prison? Lots of “tough guys” say that. Now he’s “proving” it. Whether it’s sincere or not I don’t know.
Tobias @ 11:16 – Because a snitch is nobody’s friend in jail. A snitch is a rat who’d just as soon trick you into saying something or take what you say out of context and tattle or lie about you saying something probably in order to curry favor with LE. NO ONE likes a snitch. AND some snitches will do the same thing ratting out one inmate to another. (For example, “R said he thinks you’re the dumbest guy in this jail.” Just to cause a fight or bad-feeling. A snitch is a real potential trouble-maker in lots of ways.
Whether someone has anything to hide or not.
OK, I have read the many reasons why Ronald would have no need to talk about Haleigh to Ggm Sykes, but what about his lack of concern for Jr? No mention of him either. He would be my first concern. I guess he must feel he is safe with his Mother, which contradicts all the things said of her and her parenting.
I don’t care about his boxers he can paint them pink and wear them on his head for all I care.
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The choices Ronald has made are disappointing, Jr did not even have time to emotionally heal from the loss and attachment of one person acting as parent “Misty” No matter what anyone thinks a child bonds no matter what. Then another girlfriend is there that tells me a lot about his ability to understanding children and what they need to be healthy. The drug dealing causing him to go to jail Jr to be moved to another home thus on top of everything else he has not made healthy choices for either child. Plus he lied going on NG saying he has nothing to do with the Croslin’s, Misty and then he caught dealing dope with her. Family blames Misty but warns Ronald of a snitch in the jail. LE should have a hall not a room there going to be needing it.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
M2C, Yeah I guess you are right Ron wouldnt want the other guys to think he is unmanly so he whines about his dirty underware. lol Just making a point that Ron only cares about Ron imo
I listened to the tapes last night. Misty clearly says that to get out of jail, they want information, and SHE DOES NOT HAVE ANY. I think she was referring to Haleigh. She may more information about the drug activities, but I am now 200% convinced that she has NO information that will lead to Haliegh. Padilla says he will only bond her out IF she provides information on Haleigh. I want to believe that, but seeing him in action, would not be surprised if he bonds her out anyone, to “befriend” her.
JOHNNY RAY TALLENT
DAVEN PORT, FL
Booking Date & Time: 11/24/2009 12:41:00 AM – Booking#: 09-04866
Release Date & Time: 1/7/2010 7:56:55 AM
DOB: 9/29/1967 – RACE: W – SEX: M
Charges Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
948.06- PROB VIOLATION N N $0.00
$0.00
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=757706&IMG=30229
Tobias, I’m sure a lot of guys ask for similar things during their calls home but their calls are not broadcast publically.
Also, wasn’t it reported that he was writing a letter to Crystal – although we are not sure if it’s bio-mom or a cousin/sister or someone?
And if GGma Sykes does not have visitation, how’s she supposed to know how Jr is?
But go ahead. Keep on those jack boots and keep kicking. Don’t let me spoil the fun.
I also find the family shift very telling. They were behind Misty the entire time until Ron gets caught dealing with her. Now its Mistys fault for the drugs and she may know something and she had them (as TN PUTS IT) fooled she was like night and day in her personality?jmo
Who is kicking? I said nothing crude or mean about Ron just pointed out what I feel is self absorbtion on his part. And I am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are.jmo
M2C,all I can say about the calls is “SUNSHINE LAW”…..
I just listened to all of the calls and had some thoughts….
Ron’s call. totally relaxed & confident. Angry about being told he couldn’t have the necklace after “guard” said he could. Suddenly doesn’t want to talk anymore. Maybe didn’t want to say something rash.
Misty’s calls 1 & 2. “Get me out, get me out, get me out!” Freaking out, a lot of crying, Cobra, Cobra, Cobra
THen there’s a change in her demeanor on call 3. Like someone had a sit down talk with her about not freaking out & keeping her cool. Resignation to prision. Still thinks Ron & family are “with” her. SHe’s tough now too.
Calls 3,4, & 5. Similar to 3. Resignation about going to prision. Claims of getting her life together either while in prision or out. Complaints about lock-down. (Standard procedures) Staying strong
Call 6. Total 180. Crying again, told about TN’s statements to the press. Talks about a plea deal and how Fields won’t let Cobra bail her out (Padilla style). Moving to MA when she is able. Talks about only getting probation. Previous conversation #3 she told Timmy that this would only happen if she gave them “what they wanted”. What do they want? Info on Haleigh. Complainst about jail facilitiy & treatment (standard procedure).
It’s no accident that M & T are being held at that facility….Divide & conquer
Tobias @ 12:12 pm –
Didn’t Monster Anthony turn out to be very very different from the impression her friends had of her?
I don’t put it past M to have fooled TN and GGma. Who knows? Maybe at first she was on a better path hoping for the whole “marry the Prince and live happily ever after” thing. A girl with hopes like that is going to try to give a good impression to her hopefully future in-laws.
Do you really think TN and GGma knew about the 3 day drug binge when it happened? Oh sure, kids tell their parents everything! (not)
I remember TN saying on the Today Show that maybe M knows something or doesn’t realize she knows something – that’s exactly what LE has been saying. So how can she be faulted for that?
Tobias, the media is not requesting the calls of other inmates right now. Only R, T, M and maybe H and DB. So I don’t understand what you mean by your comment about the Sunshine Laws.
And of course you’re entitled to your opinion. But it’s very apparent that you do not like it when I express a different one. I’m entitled to mine too.
And an example of “kicking” is assuming his drawers will dry overnight. Probably not. And his cell mate could take them. Who knows? Oh, of course. Tobias knows all. Excuse me.
Yes, being a citizen of this State, I find it amazing how many people all get to benefit from OUR Sunshine Laws. I think it should be National. Maybe that’s the real reason FL cases are sooo popular. They are the only ones we get a “peek inside” before a trail even starts. Everybody….say thank you FL. LOL!
*trial
m2c, If Misty can fool them so can Ron. And thats all I will say on the matter. jmo
m2c;
What Tobias was trying to say is that it’s very common for inmates to do this. They are not allowed more than 4 pair, so they would have to wear each pair 2 days UNLESS, they washed them out in the sink. If sone so with 2 pair he would still wear 1 pair for 2 days (since he’d have to anyway) and wash the other pair on day 1 and by morning of day 3, they would certainly do dry. Boxers dry very very fast.
TObias, that was also what came to mind for me….
Lots of very dangerous people had others fooled. THat’s part of why they are so dangerous. No one suspects them, at least at first. (Genralized statement about previous known violent offenders & murderers)
Now that you bring it up, I think the Sunshine Laws in Florida are appalling.
I can understand LE taping all calls and visits for their own purposes. I can understand the state releasing calls to the public as part of the process of releasing discovery material DURING a prosecution.
I do not see any purpose at all in releasing to the public the calls/visits that prisoners have with friends and family. Jail is bad enough. Being investigated and taped by LE is bad enough. Having all or parts of such conversations released during a prosecution is bad enough. I think it’s over the top to releas such things (like this at this point in time) to the mobs; to be held up to public ridicule for things that most likely do not have anything to do with the case. It’s up to LE to decide that and use what parts are pertinent accordingly. It is none of our business. JMO
HGM, I am reading the book about Ed Gein right now and agree many people are not what they appear as in public. jmo
Ron has no question as to his account having money put in it, or money for calls to his family.
This bothers me about ALL inmates. They all seem to think that just because they’ve gotten caught breaking laws & serious offenses, that their family members are supposed to come rushing to their aid. Misty knows her family’s situation. She knows they can’t afford ANY phone calls and not much commissary. It’s unfair of ALL of them to tax Timmy & family just because he still cares about them. Rather self-centered, the THREE of them…
HGm @ 12:25 – Thanks for trying to smooth things over but that is NOT what Tobias was ridiculing him for. She was ridiculing him for asking his ggma for new underwear and saying that (instead) he should learn to wash out the worn ones.
M2C, you better start yelling at Simon too because he has said just about the smae thing.jmo
Well, Tobias does sort of have a point. If Ron believes he’s going to prision for a long time, he needs to learn to live with less. Not a personal judgement. I’d say that about anyone facing a long prision term.
Also, him try to look and act tough then asking about new boxers because he has delicate sensibilities, is kind of funny.
MEN in prision will laugh at him. (Not trying to be funny)
PS….He KNOWS he can’t have a necklace/chain in lock-down…..He KNOWS it!!! Suicide/weapon risk.
The jail inmates being discussed lately are innocent until proven guilty.
Jail is a horrible place. The most simple, everyday things we all take for granted are denied or cost something.
I do blame Hank Sr and Lisa for being such POS that they can’t help their kids now – not that they ever did. And I blame T for putting his family in this awful situation.
But I can’t blame any inmate for asking for help to communicate or stay clean or other basic things. Obviously Monster Anthony’s taking that to new limits gorging on all the treats that others pay for but that’s the other end of the limit. Not what any of the people in this case are doing – so far as I can see right now.
HollysGmom, I agree, Misty sounded really selfish when it came to her demands of phone cards and such. $25 for three calls and poor Timmy, who has a young family to care for, has Misty and Tommy fighting over getting their daily calls in because the are bored and have no one to talk to..
HGm- “him try to look and act tough then asking about new boxers because he has delicate sensibilities, is kind of funny.
MEN in prision will laugh at him. (Not trying to be funny)”
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I doubt it. I bet most of them have asked a family member for the same thing although it wasn’t broadcase worldwide. Maybe if they knew it was going to they would not have had the cojones to be heard asking. R seems to. Good for him.
That was my point exactly. If he was trying to just make small talk with GGM why not ask for pencils and pencil sharpener. Stamps deoderant
toothpaste soap shampoo puzzle books magazines or anything. Why complain about underware to your grandma? jmo
We have to remember that this is just one call we have listened to of Rons. I sure hope the other calls he doesnt just talk about his boxers. I beleive he is just trying to make small talk with grandma! Im sure he knows everything bout junior. Im sure he knows whats the latest developements with Haleigh are. Im sure he knows what hes up against his lawyer has pry told him not to say anything related to his case or Haleighs case. Ron isnt stupid!
Im just wondering if he said he needed tooth paste, under arm deotorant, or any other personal item he would need! ppl would ridicule him! JMO
Bring it on let me get the wrath!
Praying for Haleigh!
Just wait until THEIR commissary lists are made public. You might think that they are gorging out, but in reality they are just supplimenting an almost inpalitable cuisine and not very much of it. I had a friend tell me once that she lost 40 lbs in jail in just 6 months due to food issues. If you don’t get commissary, you’ll go hungry. That’s ANY inmate. Here they have to do work of some kind or their families have to pay x amount of $ per day while they are in jail, just to pay for basic necessities (food, clothing cleaned, board).
So, I personally, exspect these lists to be very similar. Funny how one’s list is wrong & vile, yet another’s can just be necessary.
Tobias said,in February 5th, 2010 at 12:42 pm That was my point exactly. If he was trying to just make small talk with GGM why not ask for pencils and pencil sharpener. Stamps deoderant
toothpaste soap shampoo puzzle books magazines or anything. Why complain about underware to your grandma? jmo
Sorry Tobias! didnt see ur post! I do agree that the under wear is kinda funny but we have listened to one of his calls!
M2C, inmates are not allowed to have personal clothing that is why they are given issued clothing and then it is washed. Grandma cant get him any underware or any clothing. jmo
Why would anyone think Misty is afraid of prison? She seems resigned to it and is ok with it, and not the least bit afraid. She said she is going to be good in prison, get her GED, make something of herself, and said she has to pay for her mistakes. I was actually impressed with her attitude of taking responsibility. The desperation I heard from her to get out is her need for another fix of dope.
News Flash! Tire tacks leading to Ron Cummings only skid marks. Grandmother distraught over unsightly evident in boxers at PCSO……..
Ron knew this would be news fodder and he and Grandma Sykes are fully aware Haleigh is missing.
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I imagine anything of value or emotion or importance is going through his lawyer. Like I said above. I think Ron gave yall one to judge, condemn, hash and rehash that had no value. He didn’t care, nor does his family care if you talk all day about his boxers. Boy was he right, a mountain has been made about his skid marks. Ron is the one that’s gotten a laugh out of this one. jmo
To me it’s not what he asked about so much as the extent it was discussed. LOL. No socks? paper? Writing items? WHy didn’t he say “Oh, yea, I need a pencil sharpened, I had to borrow one’? Maybe he can’t have one full time as per lock-down rule (contains a small razor blade)
ANyway, I think it’s normal to want your basic limit of items. Just find it a little humorous that tough guy has such issues with underwear.
bonanzajellybean said,in February 5th, 2010 at 12:47 pm Why would anyone think Misty is afraid of prison? She seems resigned to it and is ok with it, and not the least bit afraid. She said she is going to be good in prison, get her GED, make something of herself, and said she has to pay for her mistakes. I was actually impressed with her attitude of taking responsibility. The desperation I heard from her to get out is her need for another fix of dope.
I do agree! I do feel if Misty gets out now! She will go use again! Not sell or what should i say do anyone a favor! But i do beleive she will get her fix!
My sister after she got busted with meth got outta treatment and that was the first thing she did when we got her back to town was go meet up with one of her friends.
It wasnt until she got back into jail that she wa able to quit and thats cuz she sat 6 months, got her GED, and has now been clean for a better 3 years!
bjb, Isee your point and noticed the angziety(SPELL) in her voice. Could be later her prozak kicked in and she was calmer. jmo
Well, then I guess we’re all getting a good chuckle then…Thanks Ron! We needed some humor.
bjb;
Listen to the 6th Misty call….she’s making a plea deal….the only thing they want it info on Haleigh….
SHe’s not resigned in that last call….not at all….She’s also out for bear on Ron after the TN statement….JMO
HollysGmom said,in February 5th, 2010 at 12:53 pm Well, then I guess we’re all getting a good chuckle then…Thanks Ron! We needed some humor.
bjb;
Listen to the 6th Misty call….she’s making a plea deal….the only thing they want it info on Haleigh….
I do beleive the next days will be critical! I dont think like other bloggers have said if she knows anything she would have already talked. No i think there is still plenty of time for her to talk! JMO
I’m only quoteing what Misty herself has said:
Call #1 or #2 “They will only make a deal with info on Haleigh. I don’t know any”
Call #6 “I’m making a plead deal or something”
FOr the record, I think that Ron’s call was INTENDED to be blase’ and hum-drum…..he won’t get caught talking about ANYTHING! He knows better.
hgm, I think Misty is gonna wise up and tell it will just take time. Do you remember being 17-18 I do at that age you have a different definition of love and many dont realize it has to be from both people and many girls dont realize that men tell you what they want you to hear so they can use you. Misty was on cloud nine at the court house and Ron looked mad.jmo
If Ron cries, HE’S FAKING
If Ron laughs, HE’S UNCARING ABOUT HIS DAUGHTER
If Ron’s indifferent, HE’s CALLOUSED
If Ron’s angry, HE’S A MONSTER
If Ron’s rude about Haleigh’s abductor, SOME SAY HE’S VIOLENT AND HOT HEADED.
If Ron’s broken, HE’S MANIPULATING.
I can tell you he is human, he has feelings, he loves his daughter and his son. I can guarantee you he keeps up with what is going on with them. Maybe he just doesn’t think the world needs to scrutinize him about it. So all he gave on this one is a little dung.
hgm, I agree! He will not get caught talking about anything. He isnt stupid!
Tobias, I agree misty loves ron or what she think is love. I also agree with your statment about her being on cloud nine. I think she has been until her arrest!
Rons a drug dealer
Mistys a drug dealer
Tommys a drug dealer
Lets remember they are all the same in a court of law. None of them are better than the other.
I think we will all be very surprised when the audio and video comes out of the drug dealing. jmo
Remember the parties dont have a clue that they are on camera. jmo
I dont believe the plea Misty was refering to will involve Haliegh. Everyone is assuming that the only leverage (and plea deal) Misty has with the drug trakkifing charges is Haliegh. I think that is definitely NOT true. Even LE tried to say that when they were first arrested that the arrests are SEPARATE FROM THE HALEIGH INVESTIGATION. LE have repeatedly stated this for a reason—to say “Public-dont expect everything in the drug traffiking case has to do with Haliegh, these are SERIOUS charges”. Drug trakkiking can send a person away for life—and Misty and Ron WERE traffiking by the CLEAR DEFINITION OF THE LAW. Misty has leverage in her drug traffiking case to give up supplies and other drug activity. She also has leverage to PLEA DEAL “Guilty” TO AVOID THE COST OF A TRIAL—THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM.
I would not jump to the conclusion that any plea deal with Misty involves information on where Haliegh is. I dont believe Misty has any information on Haliegh.
Tobias,
These are drug traffikers and users. NOTHING they say on tape will surprise me.
I think maybe part of the problem is that so many young people try to be hard and tell themselves they could handle anything, including a jail sentence. I think the real truth is that none of use would handle it very well. Those who delude themselves into thinking they will never get caught have it the worst. Their pre-concieved notions about jail/prision is nothing like the reality of it. That’s why Misty needed this sooner. It’s a wake-up call, at least.
It could be true that they want info on the “supplier” but she only mentions the Haleigh info in relation to a deal/no deal & there is always R to get supplier info from, or anyone of the other 3 who might know who he/she is.
These calls are old….anybody know when newer ones will be out? They should be pretty interesting too! I need to re-watch the visitation videos to see what was said since they were after these calls. Will we get to hear Misty’s side of that call with her dad? Was it all redacted? Was Misty making allegations or claims to copping a plea/ making a deal?
In her first call she says ONLY information on Haliegh. In her next call she says PLEA DEAL. Who knows what information she was given between the first and second call. By all rights, she CAN plead guilty to drug traffiking charges,save the cost of a trial (and in this recession cost is everything) and most likely will get a reduced sentence.
We will see if she has/will give up any information on haleigh. I dont believe she is the key.
“I don’t understand why you didn’t come forward before?” he continued. “You should have left when I told you to go to Michigan. The Haleigh stuff’s got to come to an end. The truth’s got to come out, and you don’t be talking without your lawyer.”
After a full hour, Cummings’ dad reminds her once again to speak the truth.
“Got to be strong, tell the truth,” Croslin Sr. said. “Don’t lie about nothing no more. I love you, too.”
The truth has got to come out but don’t talk without your lawyer. Don’t lie about nothing NO MORE…..Means previously lied about it and the ALL know it!
previous quote per jax4.com
5 days until Feb 10. Offers are starting to exspire or lessen in sweetness.
5 days until Feb 10. Offers are starting to exspire or lessen in sweetness.
This visit occurs a couple of days after call #6.
What offers?
Simon and TJ arelooking into who Talent is. I was also very interested in this guy. Misty keeps bringing his name up I think twice he is talked about. In one call to Timmy and then on the video of Misty and her dad. They said they would tell who he is on Sunday if they find out. jmo
a talent agent is interested in misty?
omfg what next!
Talent will turn out to be another of Mistys “friends”, like “Nay-Nay” and “white boy” (I think that is his street name). What type of character do we think would associate with Misty?—-People who use “street names”. Enough said. So it is good that we are finding out about more people in mistys circle. I would suspect EVERYONE in that circle, unless they have a clear alibi, of being with Misty that night or being in the MH.
Well for some reason Simon and TJ think hes worth loking into.
No Simon and TJ said his name is John Tallent and he was in jail on the logs but was out.jmo
I tried to go to the jail logs but they are down right now. jmo
I didn’t get on until about 20 minutes into the show. Someone on chat had ask something about Chrystal and someone said TJ was checking. What was that TJ is checking on? I missed that. tia
Me too. We will have to go back and listen when they post it.
Does this bunch NOT associate with an anyone who has not seen the inside of a jail? I disagree that Haleigh was in a safe, loving environment. Given enough time, odds are she would have ended up just like them.
I am missing what the big news is. What is it?
Ron HAS mentioned Haleigh, over and over and over and……
Yes, everything IS about Ron and Misty—-THEY ARE DRUG DOPERS. Have you ever known a drug doper where everything was NOT all about them.
Does anyone know what the date was that Ron was taken back to Putnam?
JOHNNY RAY TALLENT
Georgetown , FL
Booking Date & Time: 7/10/2007 5:45:12 PM – Booking#: 07-03138
Release Date & Time: 7/22/2007 10:12:04 AM
DOB: 9/29/1967 – RACE: W – SEX: M
Charges Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
902.220 RETURN PER COURT ORDER F 3
JOHNNY RAY TALLENT
DAVEN PORT, FL
Booking Date & Time: 11/24/2009 12:41:00 AM – Booking#: 09-04866
Release Date & Time: 1/7/2010 7:56:55 AM
DOB: 9/29/1967 – RACE: W – SEX: M
Charges Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
948.06- PROB VIOLATION N N $0.00
$0.00
Who is this guy and why does Misty want to see him? jmo
Tobias, is this the guy that she wants to see… is he the same John that her father says is to blame for this mess?
I dont know but he is mentioned fondly and the John and Linda are mentioned rather harshly so I WOULD GUESS NO.JMO
Is john Cummings married to a Linda does anyone know ?
Tobias Thanks!
Tobias, R was transferred to Putnam on Jan 29. At least that’s when the article about it came out. So it was either the 28th or 29th.
Looking for Justice and Dramaqueen:
I could see that the mafia idea sounds believable too. That would be why they aren’t saying a word about Haleigh and such. That could be why they were working their tails off to get the drug money to pay their debt. But really- couldn’t Ron have sold his truck,sold any/all jewelry,guns, gotten help from family to pitch in because I would def. help my family if that were the case. Couldn’t he have talked to Crystal and have taken that donation money to get Haleigh? I could understand that if this were the case,then they can’t involve the police. If this was so, they are in big trouble now not being able to pay that debt, being locked up in jail. Maybe that is why everyone seems so vague about it all. Noone knows nothing because if they talk it will kill Haleigh? Could be possible, but sounds so much like the movies. I guess that kind of thing does happen in real life though. I hope it is easier than that. I hope she is found safe and unharmed 🙁
After reading through the comments, I came up with some things I wanted to add. Someone mentioned the 911 call earlier, and Ron saying he had better people to talk to than a mother f@#$%$ that ain’t comin’ If I may add what I perceived on this…The dispatcher asked misty what haleighs birthday was, she asked ron and he apparently didn’t know or couldn’t remember (possible either way) I’ve thought that all along. As for ron talking endlessly about his shorts, I think he was trying to monopolize the conversation so gsykes wouldn’t be able to say anything that he really didn’t want to talk about. As for his chains, why would he ask his gramma about that, when his chains were around his neck when he got arrested. They would be in his personal effects. As for misty suddenly deciding she’s gonna stay off drugs and get her ged, she was saying whatever she thought whom ever she was trying to manipulate wanted to hear. whatever it takes to get her way, to get out…I saw right through that little show. just curious, I can’t remember was she talking o her gramma when she put on that little show?
How come no one finds it weird, that Telfon Ron’s grandmother says that “Pops” said that they put a snitch up in there with Teflon Ron??
But any little morsel they get on Misty is publicized to the max??
And who is this Jeff Hardy,Hardie?? But he says this and he says that, does he work for the Sheriff’s department and is he a friend of Teresa N’s?
Teflon Ron is/was responsible for Haliegh’s welfare and he brought scum and evil all around her, he had pimps and drug addicts hanging out around that little girl! Misty was not an adult in this situation Telfon Ron was the ADULT and his is the one ultimately resonsible for Haliegh’s well being, Mizz Nancy and everyone says oh Ron just made some bad choices, come on WAKE UP he is/was a narcissist, drug addict, a burglar and who knows what else that his mother got squelched through her job at the Sheriff’s office!
People, Misty was all of 16 when she took up with Teflon Ron, and even in this drug case he was in the backround and used her as a drug mule for the first few sales, then he thought it was safe and finally started dealing with the undercover officer himself! He is not some poor workin Joe who happend to have his little girl kidnapped, he is some who brought this right into his little girl’s life!
Good point. Maybe Jeff Hardy has been friends with Neves for quite some time; before Haleigh went missing.
one thing for sure NG is sure on ron’s side and ready to hang misty and the rest! NG SURE HAS A THING FOR OLD RON THATS FOR SURE,,,,jmo
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