It was the usual busy 90 minutes. Our panel consisted of Simon and Jan Barrett, ace reporter and News and Programming director for The Sky 97.3 TJ Hart, Investigator and proponent of statement analysis Peter Hyatt, crime writers and deep thinker Denny Griffin, and investigator William Cobra Staubs.
While this week might seem a sleepy time in the Haleigh Cummings case, it has not been. The entire panel was scrambling to access some video that we here at BNN had obtained. Most of the panel had had an opportunity to listen to some of the tapes, and they are interesting to say the least. I am still where to buy finasteride in australia processing more, but you can find todays output here and here.
They were not exclusive, for the most part they were not BOMBSHELL, but they certainly are thought provoking. There is some redaction, yet there is still much of interest. Were these the tapes that sparked the latest search? Were these the tapes that signalled the filing for divorce by Lindsey Croslin? I will let you decide.
You can catch the entire program here.
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Are there tapes of Misty available? We’d like to listen to what she’s saying from that time frame too.
Thanks for the Tommy and Lindsy tapes.
Good show today!
Thanks again Simon & Jan!
Grandma Flo & Pat Brown on with Levi tonight should be interesting.
Dylan said,
in May 2nd, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Simon,
Are there tapes of Misty available? We’d like to listen to what she’s saying from that time frame too.
Thanks for the Tommy and Lindsy tapes.
Good show today!
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I agree, Dylan. It would also be interesting in hearing her thoughts now after the river search.
Thanks You so much Simon & Jan!
I found the tapes very interesting and todays show was grand as always!
In these tapes Tommy says his attorney is talking to the state. IMO, someone will be taking a plea deal. Thoughts?
Simon I like your theory but it has many holes in it. You are right , it’s irrelevant who picked Haleigh up from her bus stop , but it is the beginning of the lie. I do believe the ex-newlyweds were arguing all day , whether it was about the ex-bride’s weekend get away or the fact she didn’t want to babysit , is also irrelevant. This is where there are some of the holes in your theory.
First , the ex-bride never ever mentioned the father’s grandmother coming over. All she said was that her brother , neice , nephew , and a A/c man coming over. She never even metioned the cousin coming over. I don’t think it’s ever been reported what the A/C man saw. It was the grandmother , who came out days later , that she came over and saw the kids eating dinner at @ 7pm. Also , the story goes that the ex-newlyweds went over to the grandmother’s that morning to pick up clothes for Haleigh to wear to school. But , then she has to return later in the evening to return more clothes. I think it’s the grandmother’s attempt to help cover up. It’s been rumored that neighbors saw Haleigh riding her bike , but I can only say it gets dark by 6pm in Feb. I think the lie starts right after the father leaves to go to work.
Secondly , your theory states you think Haleigh overdosed on some sort of pills given by the ex-bride. How often do you read stories about a child Haleigh’s age dying from an overdose given by a caretaker to how often you read stories about a child her age dying from child abuse? I tend to believe the reports of the father being abusive toward his exs and his children. Why do you think DCF was involved in telling the father the right way of discipling his children? I do believe the reports from the mother that the children didn’t want to go back to the father after their weekend visitations because they were scared of the father.
Third , about the father going to the store prior to going home is , I think , also a lie. Don’t know how lax stores in Putnam Co. are with this , but you can’t buy a single beer after 2am in the state of Florida. I think it’s just part of the father’s alibi to make it seem like he wasn’t in too much of a hurry to get home. By then all the evidence was cleaned up and disposed of and he needed the cigs to calm his nerves because he knew that when he got home the LIE of “my child was stoled” to the police was to begin.
As far as Haleigh dying from an overdose is so far reaching. I don’t the stats , but I feel kids Haliegh age die more often from child abuse at the hand of their caretakers than them getting into the adult drugs or being given to them to let them go to sleep.
Simon something you said about Steve Brown the PI today. You mentioned that possibly Steve is friend with someone, Tommy’s attorney? Possibly LP to? He works for Crystal S. I would conclude that is the reason why Tommy’s attorney is not representing him in the Haleigh case. Seems as if Tommy’s attorney may of been opposed to LP stepping in and Steve Brown handling the poly. Tommy wanted it his way, he wanted out and told Lindsey he would take the chance and take the poly even if it meant he would lose his attorney. Tommy is desperate and wants out. If this is the case then there would not be a conflict of interest because Tommy went against his attorney’s advice and took LP deal. JMO for today…LOL
Actually the law in Flordia per alcohol sales states
Restricted from sale between 3:00 am and 7:00 am as a general rule however bigger municipalities differ ie; Miami can sell 24 hrs a day.
Still, If Ron bought that beer at even 1 minute after 3:00 am, technically the cashier broke the law.
Yea! Peter’s back…(Just now listening)
Enjoyed the show Simon. I have a few unanswered questions not pertaining to the show though.
I could swear that WBG (white boy Greg)said in his interview a while back that the last time he spoke to Misty was Monday morning, she called him from the hospital visiting her father I guess. I didn’t hear Misty ever mention going to the hospital on Monday in her interviews. Is something off there. The other question is really a statement. Couldn’t a lot of this silence over the past year be from their lawyers advising them not to talk?
Just finished reading posts from the weekend – great analysis Simon – thank you for sharing. I believe everything in it however, I still don’t understand Ron’s involvment. I do believe he is involved somehow but your timeline is vague where he is concerned. Is his only motive for helping with the coverup that he is afraid of DCF? Oh well – I read through all the posts and some people provide great input. I look forward to listening to the show tomorrow during my run.
TJ…you re the BOMB! LOL! Those darned COPS! LMAO!
Anybody else having a problem with the clearicil ad going off during the radio show! Aggghh!!
Denny is so correct. It’s the same thing I was saying last night about once you’re on LE’s “radar” as being a criminal or crime involved, you will not be able to leave your driveway without trouble. LOL! That way LE eventually will either catch them at something or finally drive them to MOVE away! It happens A LOT!
Does anybody out there get that everyone in this case is LYING to GET OUT OF JAIL. NOBODY seems to really know what happened to Haleigh. if they did, we would have Haleigh. This case, unfortunately, will NEVER be solved.
bjb;
I was just saying that same thing over on the other thread, in part….
We can not achieve FACTS from any of these people/players as NONE of them are trustworthy….NONE! SO any previous statements are no longer valid as proof or “facts”. Not: Ron, Misty, Tommy, Timmy, Lindsy, Chelsea, Lisa, Sr, TN, GGMS, nor any other person that we have used public statements to ascertain fact from fiction or rumor from truth. Their “WORDS” are now inadmissable as proof or evidence of anything.
After the discussion about the Nay-Nay letter I am starting to worry that those girls (Misty & Nay-Nay) may have been taking Haleigh with them to parties to trade sexual activity with her for drugs. It would def explain any sexual abuse type symptoms.
Why would Haleigh be with them at a party to begin with? A drug & sex party? They have been proven to have been participants of such in the past, especially Nay-Nay….
THANK YOU TJ!!!!!! per bus stop issue….
Just because that is what Shallon (sp?) said DOESN’T MAKE IT TRUE!!!! He could have been lying to TJ & Mike. He could have been MISLEADING US/the public on purpose….Geesh!
Great job Caller!!!! Ronald lies again….
Feb 09 2009….Morning bus stop? or Trip to Welatka for clothes from GGMS and late to school with Misty walking her into class?
Can’t be both…He’s claimed both at different times…Which one is it?
TJ agrees with Simon’s Fact or Fiction article and theory….
Thank you for the show today. The discussions were very informative and brought up a lot of thought provoking stuff.
I also listened to the Levi Page show a few minutes ago and it was great as well.
Both shows left everyone with a lot to ponder today, not to forget mention the tapes that Simon released.
I think I am on 411 overload. lol.
Something that was mentioned by Art Harris on Levi’s show today was that Chelsea had some type of custody arrangment over Misty at some point.
After thinking about what was said about Chelsea being the responsible person over Misty and then remembering watching Chelsea on NG I just had to sit back and absorb how truly messed up this whole situation with Misty really was.
I truly believe that Chelsea knows a lot more than what she has led on but that maybe what she knows is only what Misty had wanted her to know.
T.J. called it perfectly imvho.
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Hello- I am faithful follower of Morgan Harrington, the college student who went missing after a concert, and was found about 3-4 months later, deceased….Not the hunt for her killer(s) is full force. I was surfing, and found this blog site regarding the little missing girl in Florda, Haleigh Cummings. I have a question…..
But first, let me tell you WHY I have this question….. I was reading some blogs where a person named Steph, Steph A, My Opinion Only, etc…had posted (all the same person) Re: Morgan’s Death…..Here is my thoughts (posting) I posted on Blinks Blog:
“Curious about a few things…if a body is put into water, does that slow decomposition considerably. Was dear Morgan’s body partially skeletonized when it would be expected to be more complete, or the other way around. Could she have been weighted down in Blandemar pond until the BG/BG’s began to fear that people would start fishing again, and then moved to the treeline/field. From what I can see on maps of the area, Blandemar Farm pond is somewhere less than 500 yards from where Morgan was found. I’m not a great map reader so that could be plus/minus for the measurement.
** The reason I ask is a too strange psychic account I read (I know-not respected mode of info!), but it was posted over two months before Morgan’s discovery, and hit too close to home on some of the details. It just got me to thinking about other possibilities. Here it is, with the link to the article that she commented on. This has probably been read by everyone on BOC, but it struck me as unusual. I only copied part of her comment.
“””””Stephanie Almaguer November 15th, 2009 | 6:42 pm (Morgan wasn’t found until Jan.201)
“……I am not sure if this girl smoked pot on a reg. basis, but I “see” it being passed back and forth and he offered her a drink as well both were laced. He pretend to smoked and she was a bit intoxicated and didn’t pay attention. After only a few mins. she was very disorientated…..but she did notice he was heading in the wrong directions and began telling him to just let her out. He told her to shut up etc.etc. She reached for her phone and he knocked it out of her hand, causing it to come apart- which is when I believe the battery fell out. He may have even hit her. Never the less, they ended up at a place that is very wooded and there is also creeks / water / rivers? around……About 10 mins. from the bridge location she was last seen at. I hear the word “Ivy”. I am “thinking” that she carried her purse with her outside, well, because you don’t just leave your purse lying down at a concert…and also, I believe the she did go to the restroom, And “freshened” up while in there. Her phone was in the purse, but her friend had the keys, because my feelings are that her friend drove the car to the concert. Next..
He proceeded to drag her from the car and she put up very little fight- she was raped and killed by a blow to the head. I see her in a wooded type location. I do not see her in water, but that doesn’t mean that she wasn’t in the water and is now on the bank.
When he left, he gathered her phone (but not the battery) and her purse and drove them back to the Arena that she told him she had been at, and he then left. I am not getting his name, but am thinking it may start with a B.
……..And again, When he comes back (before the concert is even over) to “drop off” her items, again, he’s alone. I know that this may all seem far fetched, but why wouldn’t he take her things back to the lot? He don’t want them…..He don’t want to dump them on the road…..He want’s it to appear as if she herself, left them there. But this guy isn’t too smart, and WILL get caught, by his own stupidity. In fact, I don’t think he even knows the battery fell out, under his seat……….””””
Link to Hook article:
http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2009/11/15/concerned-witnesses-before-hitching-morgan-harrington-caused-worry/
OK – Notable: 10 minutes from JPJ, the wooded type location, could have been in the water and maybe now on bank, by creeks, water, river, etc., this is a close description of where she turned up.
In truth, Morgan was found about 10 minutes from JPJ in a field next to a wooded area with creeks, and a pond nearby. This psychic/ feelings kind of person “could have” instead intuited that she was 1000 miles away, in NYC, in a Canadian river, on a train, hidden in a warehouse, living with a rock star, etc., etc……..but she didn’t. She hit it on the nose, with distance, the area, etc……
I just found this interesting. Hope I haven’t offended anyone…..
SO- My question is, does anyone know if she has done any readings re: little Haleigh’s case? I found her personal email, and thought about asking her…. know all too many psychics are out for nothing more than a scam and quick buck…but this psychic asked for nothing, only wanting to help….and she did a damn good job if I must say so myself. I do believe that she is one of the few who may be able to possess this gift and would be very interested into hearing her thoughts re: Haleigh?.?.? Does anyone know who she is?
Just thought I would post my opinion on this……I find her very interesting, to say the least. I am putting this posting on several blogs, in hopes that someone may know who she is…. Thanks for reading.
Did everyone hear the “Bombshells” dropping from Gma Flora tonight on Levi’s show? OMG!!!!
Misty admitted to her WEEKS after Haleigh went missing that JO came to steal the gun but that Misty was in on it and they were going to split the $$$. It’s heresay from Gma but hey, first we’ve heard of it and “confirmed” by a family member/confidant.
The other one was about the drug activity going on there when she visited.
Also she says Chelsea was right…they did have pills lying about.
Misty didn’t visit JO when she visited TN last year but in other visits she would spend the night at his house, wanted to be there every weekend, etc (this is also the time period he supposedly molested her). Why did she insist on returning to his home if he had “abused” her? or she had fear of him?
Gmom,
Unless you insist on me giving further detail, i believe i can answer your question regarding why MC would continue to visit JO, even after she was allegedly molested by him.
It is not uncommon for a victim of sexual abuse to continue to see the perp either out of fear of the perp and not wanting to rock the boat.
The second could be SOMETIMES, children and yound adults who have been sexually abused a lot will continue to see the perp on an abusive level because their views on healthy sexual relationships are very distorted.
It is sad but true for some victims of sexual abuse. No one, even Misty, would ever choose to be like this but it DOES happen, sadly. Its a proven fact–not pseudo-science.
I hope I have been able to answer your questions w/o being too graphic. It is a very, very sad situation for thousands of mfemales and males, as well.
*I am not saying I believe MC was abused by JO but I guarantee you there is a 99% chance that MC was indeed sexually abused by someone, at least once. There are way too many red flags pointing in that direction.
*correction from my post above: I meant to say: Unless you insist on me giving further detail, i believe i can answer your question **WITH A QUICK SUMMARY** at to why MC would continue to visit JO, even after she was allegedly molested by him.
*I think that makes a little more sense!
Have a good day all Lo)
hmmmmmmm said,in May 3rd, 2010 at 3:52 am
You’re preachin to the Choir babe…LOL!
I know only too well….however I would never have REQUESTED to be taken there or allowed to go there. Her relationship with his sisters (previously anyway) so tight she would put herself back in that postion?
I’m not saying Misty liked being molested…I’m saying she’s a big fat liar anyway…her actions speak louder than her words at this point and her actions prior to Haleigh’s disappearance in regard to JO say she was not afraid of him, she had no hard feelings toward him, they were buds! So now, with Haleigh missing suddenly she’s afraid of him, intimidated by him? I’m not buying her molestation allegation. It’s just fuel to the fire for JO frame.
“Mame, you think some stole your kid?”
“You think someone stole your kid and previously molested you…”
Yet those myspace pics looked pretty chummy.
hmmmmmmm said,in May 3rd, 2010 at 3:52 am
Thank you for your imput as well as you are VERy correct in the prevelance, victimization and it’s issues, etc.
I DO believe Misty was molested by someone…possibly Tommy as a teenager…sadly it happens. Maybe someone else…the life style her parents lived breeds that type of victimization. WHo knows what sruffy guy Lisa brought home to their trailor in Flagler while Sr was in jail/prison. SHe was a druggie/drunk/party gal back then too. What “sneaky Uncles” has Misty been exposed to?
THat’s the major problem with the drug/alcohol lifestyle, IMO. Once intoxicated your twisted friends will take advantage of you child(ren)….Very common.
@heyitsmekelly
Welaka has alcohol available 24/7. That too is Putnam county. I don’t know about East Palatka or Satsuma but I do know that Welaka sells alcohol 24/7
HGM:
How long was Hank Sr. in prison? Do you know?
That was something else GGFlo said about the crackhead drug dealer kicking Hank Sr. and Lisa’s door down. She decided it was time for her to leave.
On Levi’s show last night, Flo was making it a point to clarify, the best she could, that she felt Misty had lied about Joe molesting her. I got the impression that Flo was trying to show that Misty has always lied about everything her whole life. Misty doesn’t know the truth.
Flo also not only talked about the gun deal bewteen Misty and Joe but, she made a comment that Misty had said on her trip to TN that HaLeigh was dead. Did anyone catch that? I know sometimes Flo may confuse things a bit but, I’m sure that’s what I heard her say. Can anyone confirm this from Levi’s show?
Have you guys listened to the new video? Posting there.
Shameful! The continual condemnation of this family is criminal. They have not been charged with this crime, yet every news item released villifies this family. Is this a way to ensure a fair trial for people who have not been charged as of yet? I am ashamed that this ok and a way to “investigate” any crime– try them in the court of public opinion!
The court of public OPINION is a perk of being here in the US of A my dear. That’s exactly what this is, opinions, a discussion, not a judge and jury. OH, but that will come in due time. Thank God for little HaLeigh. And hopefully, Ron, will pay for is involvement even if he can only be proven to be at the least negligent. IMO, Ron is totally involved in HaLeigh’s disappearance.
stillucy–You are correct ..It is a perk of being in the USA–but so is the right for a fair trial, which ultimately these people have a slim chance of getting. Regardless of their guilt or innocence, this is NO way to conduct a proper investigation. Leak information to villify these people before anyone is even charged? Please..this could be any family in the US..even yours..and you are willing to condone it? There is not one shred of evidence (made public) to even suggest they are guilty of this, much less the malicious lies being spread as fact to taint this case. Its sad! But yes, it`s your right to voice your opinion, so have at it! JMO
Did no one read my posting? Not asking you to agree with my opinions, just wondering if you guys have heard of her. I’m too busy to look into all the blogs and thought I would start here?…….
I will repost on the newest BNN Blog…in case that is where everyone is posting now….Sorry for reposting there, but I really feel like this person could be of valuable in put, IMO…Thanks
Brand1972–I read your post and it was quite interested. I would be interested in the info this woman might have if she does a reading or has done one. Frankly, I done not have much faith in this case being solved right now, so any and all info would be appreciated! JMO
Capt. Schauland has never lied to me to date.
He told me what was in the report. It is the same answer that was given to me and later to HLN Prime News.
robin said,
in May 3rd, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Shameful! The continual condemnation of this family is criminal.
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The continual condemnation of this shameful criminal family.
Close, very close.
They are all trash and they treated Haleigh like trash…used her and threw her away.
TJ Hart said,in May 3rd, 2010 at 9:07 pm Capt. Schauland has never lied to me to date.
He told me what was in the report. It is the same answer that was given to me and later to HLN Prime News.
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Thanks TJ, I believe Capt. Dick, it’s absurd to think he was lying imo
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