It was the usual interesting 90 minutes. And I think it would be fair to say that tempers were getting frayed at times. A year is a long time to follow any story and I think it would be fair to say that everyone is suffering a level of frustration. One of the aspects of is this case is there are there are periods of intense activity interspersed with periods of silence. Hopes were high that after the drug bust of Misty Croslin, Tommy Croslin, Ronald Cummings, et al it would result in a quick resolution to the question of where Haleigh Cummings is. That has not happened, and to make matters worse it appears that the PCSO have entered another of their periods of almost hibernation. Very little information has tricked out from them for a couple of weeks.
There are some interesting rumors doing the rounds however we have not been able to confirm or discredit them.
The panel consisted of Simon and Jan Barrett, News and Programming Director for WSKY 97.3 TJ Hart, and author and crime writer Denny Griffin.
The major players have gone silent, and indeed LE seems to have become somewhat hushed on the subject. But it has still been a busy week in the search for Haleigh Cummings. Quiet is something that we have learned to live with when dealing with the PCSO. They tend to talk to us when they want something. And that is fine, we are happy to help in any way we can.
I also have a pet theory that that they go quiet to see what trees the press can shake and what rotten fruit they can find.
There were two subjects broached in the program, but as we have no proof, so you will have to just wait for that information.
I am pretty certain that by Tuesday there will be a resolution to the idiotic charges against one man that got himself involved in the case. I am also in the middle of obtaining some depositions that might shed a great deal of light on the case against him.
A phone call or three today also begs the question of where is Marie Griffis? That she should take a vacation is not news. But what might be news are the items she took with her. Again, this is all second and third hand information.
You can listen to the entire program here.
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackThanks… looking forward to any/only info about HaLeigh’s case! Sorry, just can’t take the side-show ring-master… I would like to squeeze him into a ball!
Cant wait to see the depositions. I always had a feeling that Chucks bail bonds had something to do with all the trouble. Maybe I am just being suspisous? Cobra was onto something but I believe he was encroaching on something else that someone doesnt want out. jmo
Now I am curious, where did MG go and what were the items? Very mysterious.jmo
Somehow I don’t think there was blood involved….I think LE would have found something as these people are exactly the cleanest people I’ve ever seen. If she was beat, shot, stabbed, etc…..there would have been some evidence of that. I’d say it have to be an OD or medical death of some kind that they are covering up…..but what about witnesses seeing Haleigh that evening when Ron was at work….or are all the witnesses family members who could be involved in a cover up?
Tobias… I have no idea, and not sure why it’s news. I’m guessing that whatever she took with her is something belonging to HaLeigh… or has to do with her!!
YUP probally used donation money and Went to go see HaLeigh
Are you guys talking about stuff from the show yesterday? I missed it cuz’ I had grandchildren to babysit…and wasn’t able to listen….will do it in a bit, as I still have the little one who will slip into a nap very, very soon.
not necessarily blood wouldn’t have to be there if she was beaten
Methinks, yes… some of the above was touched on. However, some is just a blur to me today.
I hate that when the son comes over wanting to go fishing on a sunday afternoon…minutes before the show. I do it cuz’ he works at the school all week, and being a single parent dad, I have a hard time saying no…
I wonder if she went to one of the bike week rallies? There are alot of bike week s going on in Florida right now and it would be good to put Haleigh in the news with it.?????????JMO
STOP giving MARIE another EXCUSE always a EXCUSE!!!!!
What did Marie take on her vacation!
MAYBE THE GUY WITH THE IDIOTIC CHARGES WHO INVOLVED HIMSELF IN THE CASE IS MY RONNY BOY!!!
uHH, Okay, I’ll shut up now…
Goin to do housework, and also think about the stupid statement I just wrote…
Ronfan, If you listened to the show Simon says Cobra is in court today for the charges and will take the deal to stay out of Putnam county and the case. Its about Cobra not Ron.geeezzz. jmo
Marie$$$ said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 12:15 pm
YUP probally used donation money and Went to go see HaLeigh
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Get ur head outta ur ass kittylyn
Either Ronfan is Teresa, or just escaped the mental institute. FTLOG, you are ridiculous in your exuberant nonsense, geez
????????? Get Real I don’t know who you are talking to but i am not kittylyn
Hi all and good afternoon…
No news yet! I always have hope that with each new day we might know something more.
yes, it’s about cobra not Ron
I agree 100% that frustration is setting in. I do feel for LE; it has to be worse for them. I will keep praying that closure is near.
I am interested in what the items are that Marie took, but Tobias is probably correct. Bike week in in full swing. I thought I had heard before they have family members that are bikers. It would definitely be a great place to hold a rally or get info out on Haleigh.
I am praying there will be closure for Somer Thompsons family soon.
I am sitting on pins and needles on the secret evidence in the Caylee Anthony case. Thirty days seems along way away.
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE, HALEIGH AND SOMER!!!!!!!
Tobias-Do you know what the deal was with Cobra? Is he getting jail time?? Please share!!
Also…what are the 2 rumors???
I didn’t listen to the show. Me bad.
LFJ – yes, I saw where the prosecution in the Caylee case asked to withhold evidence for another 30 days….I too am wondering what that is all about. It almost sounded like they just came across the evidence (or had it provided to them recently) and they are checking it out. It will be a LONGGGGG 30 days waiting for that but if it is good, it will be worth it!
Have they charged the SO in the Somer case yet? I would think they would have some DNA from her little body that could be tied to this guy. Surely they can wrap this up soon and give this family and the community some closure. I hope so anyway.
And if something doesn’t break soon in the Haleigh case I’m going to LOSE IT!
justone, Why would you say that about ronfan?? some people can be so so so ??? nevermind. tobias, your probably right…in fact, I’bet your right…COBRA!
JB, I wonder if the caylee evidence may be DNA on the syringe or the gatoraide bottle…I can see where they may need extra time waiting on results, and if both sides are on a strict time limit on submitting all evidence…well this may be it! I hope it is her (caseys) dna on something…that would answer alot of questons.
Get Real and Just One – I personally don’t appreciate your attitudes or the way you “speak” to people. If you want any respect yourselves you’ll act like you deserve it – by treating other people with respect.
There is no need for such nasty/trashy behavior here.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And when we disagree with try very hard to disagree with some respect for each other.
The other aspect of the Caylee “secret” evidence is the judge said that if the state wants to keep it secret longer they can apply in writing. Not sure that the judge will agree to it but they get another chance to request the additional time if they want.
From what was said on the show he would not be allowed back in Putnam county and he would get or received adjudication and would be able to be a PI/bounty hunter again. So if he cops any kind of guilty plea it wouldn’t be for a felony, just a misdemeanor. I think that would be the only way to keep his license and moreover keep his guns and his CHL.
The rumors about MG must be new cause they werent discussed on the show that I am aware of.
On the show they said Cobra may get out of his charges today, sure hope so.
I only took a wild guess at the Bike rally since it was brought up once and yes it is going on now and yes bikers do look for missing children and send info to other bike clubs. jmo
Simon,
The information given out was NOT for the public! It was from a private conversation and the party(S) that released this information did not have permission from the Cummings family.
I am upset and so is the family.
As HaLeigh’s Child Advocate, I do not understand why people go out of their way to post such information. If these people truly care about HaLeigh and her family they would not have done so.
I am not quite sure what they get from doing this, but, in my opinion, it is for their own sick personal gain and NOT for HaLeigh.
God bless you and our family and God bless HaLeigh.
Rebecca Thomas
HaLeigh Cummings Child Advocate.
I didnt know the info came from the Cummings family until now very interesting that they know things about MG. JMO
Wow I just came here after listening to the show and Becca Standing ovation to you. They need to repsect this family all family members and It is getting old how people are acting
becca1- Amen to that!!
Ok…. I just got back… and skimming thru… What info is there? I only see speculation, right along with my own @12:14!!! I’m lost!!!
methinks – I would LOVE for LE to have some DNA evidence on Casey….not sure they need it as there is a MOUNTAIN of circumstantial evidence and cases have been won on much less…but DNA would be GREAT.
B*A – I’m lost too! What is this about info that was private….who is Becca….and what happened that I obviously missed?!
bac, I am with you, but I also wonder why the Cummings are upset? What does MG vacation have to do with them unless they are the ones reporting it? Who knows? jmo jmo
tobias said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 2:38 pm
The rumors about MG must be new cause they werent discussed on the show that I am aware of.
On the show they said Cobra may get out of his charges today, sure hope so.
I only took a wild guess at the Bike rally since it was brought up once and yes it is going on now and yes bikers do look for missing children and send info to other bike clubs. jmo
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actually it was, tobia. When it hit the net on the boards last night I was like what? I didn’t hear it and no one in chat said a word about it so it couldn’t have been on Simon’s show, but I listened again last night and yes it was talked about. Simon asked TJ about Marie leaving town..
JB…. my MI5 skills have taken a runner… I have NO IDEA!!
tobias said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 2:52 pm
bac, I am with you, but I also wonder why the Cummings are upset? What does MG vacation have to do with them unless they are the ones reporting it? Who knows? jmo jmo
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They are upset because something said in a private conversation was given to TJ as “news”.
becca1 said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Simon,
The information given out was NOT for the public! It was from a private conversation and the party(S) that released this information did not have permission from the Cummings family.
I am upset and so is the family.
As HaLeigh’s Child Advocate, I do not understand why people go out of their way to post such information. If these people truly care about HaLeigh and her family they would not have done so.
I am not quite sure what they get from doing this, but, in my opinion, it is for their own sick personal gain and NOT for HaLeigh.
God bless you and our family and God bless HaLeigh.
Rebecca Thomas
HaLeigh Cummings Child Advocate.
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How sick is that? I can’t believe someone would take what was said in a private conversation and put it out there like that. I hope that person is happy with themselves.
Marie- YUP probally used donation money and Went to go see HaLeigh
What a low comment to make
Vaq, Why would the Cummings be talking about Maies vacation in the first place? Now its out there and they are mad? I dont see anything wrong with a vacation, seems like she could probably use one, I know I sure could. jmo
B*A – well whoever it is that is worried about this “news” being public info now shouldn’t worry too much because none of us seem to have a CLUE what this “news” is! LOL
Funny I dont see it as the Griffis or Sheffield family is upset. She says the Cummings are upset. jmo
Okay, why is MG going on vacation a big deal? I mean, as long as she didn’t use donations for the search for Haleigh to pay the way, what is the deal? I must really be missing something.
Okay M2C – you’re the analytical brainiac of the bunch…WHAT IS GOING ON? HELP ME UNDERSTAND! Draw me a picture! Explain what it is I’m supposed to know that I obviously don’t know that would be a big deal if I did know because it was supposed to be private but was made public….because I’m TOTALLY lost…again.
they are upset because something said in a private conversation was put on the net. I’d be pissed to if I was having a conversation with someone and the next thing I know they called the news and it was all over..someone betrayed a trust in my book.
I don’t know what the gist of the conversation way to begin with, tobias, I wasn’t in the conversation.
vaquera…but if someone told me…”oh, Marie is going on vacation….needs to get away for a few days”…I wouldn’t think that to be top secret information so I wouldn’t even KNOW to keep it quiet. Now, just between you and me and this is NOT to be repeated….”Marie is going on vacation”….I might wonder what the big secret was about but I would then at least know I wasn’t to repeat it.
The point is….someone going on vacation doesn’t seem like really top secret stuff….so how would anyone know that it wasn’t to be repeated?
Becca,
Number one, you have appointed yourself as HaLeigh’s Child Advocate and you are NOT her Official Child Advocate.
Secondly, if Teresa would stop talking to people on the internet like you, private conversations would not end up on Simon’s Show.
What a mess. Marie can’t even take a day off without this nonsense.
nicoleinny, We are a tight caring bunch of bloggers here and if someone gets bullied, we will defend that blogger…m2c does not bully others, but if she/he sees someone getting bullied, you can bet your sweet a%% they will be called out!
Seems from reading this that problem is someone took information from a private conversation and it is now posted online. When someone has a private conversation, it should not end up posted on the internet.
I think the Cummings family is (probably) upset because there was a person that was trusted that is clearly not trustworthy. Private conversations are meant to stay private.
I don’t think the problem is that Marie may be on vacation. The problem is a private conversation is now posted all over the internet.
To whomever did that, shame on you!
Becca, I also wasn’t aware that Haleigh had a child advocate…..seems alittle late, if ya ask me. I hope and pray the day comes when she is back and needs an advocate. When were you appointed? Was it through the social service? Why now? Does Jr. have one too? just curious.
Becca, If your really her child advocate, then where is she? What exactly does a child advocate do? Is it like a gardiem litem? Really, I’m not trying to be sarcastic, I am curious as are all of us.
Becca has appointed herself as HaLeigh’s Child Advocate. She is a blogger like anyone else. She has injected herself into this case and caused grief for both sides of the family. It’s time for the charade to end.
skeptic said,in March 1st, 2010 at 3:09 pm Becca,
Number one, you have appointed yourself as HaLeigh’s Child Advocate and you are NOT her Official Child Advocate.
Secondly, if Teresa would stop talking to people on the internet like you, private conversations would not end up on Simon’s Show.
What a mess. Marie can’t even take a day off without this nonsense.
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EXCELLENT POST!!!!!!!1 Bravo for this one, also if Becca wouldn’t have evem come on here and acted all disgusted it would prolly blow over, LMAO about her ties to Tim Holmseth and self appointed advocte. Wow, I’m going to appoint myself as an advocate to JAck Daniels myself
skeptic, Yes I just went back and read some of her posts . She is self appointed and not Haleighs advocate at all. jmo
nicoleinny,
Can’t say I blame you. The one who often gets called out for bullying and controlling has posted downright mean and nasty things about others, far worse than anything posted here today.
WOw is all i can say who are anyone to tell Becca she isn’t HaLeigh advocate how do you know what conversations she has had with either side of the family ! HaLeigh needs to come home so all the BS can stop!
J – BUT, my point is if someone said to you…oh, my brother is going on vacation….would you think that is TOP SECRET information even if it was said during a private conversation? I certainly wouldn’t and I wouldn’t think twice about mentioning to someone else. Generally, someone going on vaction isn’t exactly front page news….nor is it top secret so no one would know to KEEP it hush hush. Most people SHOUT FROM THE ROOF TOPS when they’re going on vaction.
Now, if the person who advised MG was going on vacation specifically said to keep it quiet and not mention it and they made it public, then yes, shame on them….but I tend to think this is more a case of “Who would have thought it was top secret?”. I certainly don’t and could care less if MG goes on vacation….as long as she isn’t spending donation money to do it….she ISN’T doing THAT is she? If she is, SHAME ON HER and I’m GLAD it is public so it can be investigated!
jason-read them on previous boards about the case but just ignored it….such a shame the focus is on a “tight group of bloggers” and not Haleigh….I care about this case obviously or I would not read the blogs, however, it does not consume me to the point of harrassing others for their opinions. Just sayin…..
nicoleinny, We here at BNN love Haleigh and want her found. If we argue, well generally it gets resolved with respect. We are all under alot of stress, and throw in sadness and you’ve got some upset people and words may be thrown back and forth….We try not to be disrespectful to one another, but alas, sometimes it happens. again we gerally agree to disagree. I hope you decide to stay with us and discuss the case. Your opinions and thoughts are more than welcome. It is not my intention to offend you or chase you away… I will however go to bat when one of my BNN family members get unnessarily attacted for no reason.JMO
Old adage, dont write or say anything if you dont want it repeated. No better words can be said. jmo
Cattier than my three resident cats, at times, LOL
I would love to hear what BOTH sides of the family have to say about Rebecca Thomas. From what I understand, it wouldn’t be very positive from either side.
Becca – so you are TRYING to come off as a Social Worker Child Advocate!? Well spank my bottom and call me MS. PRESIDENT! I’m officially calling myself the President of the United States. Tomorrow maybe I’ll be the Queen of Englad!
Good Grief! Get a life Becca and quit trying to further confuse a situation that is confusing enough! God help us and Haleigh with all these fruit loops running around!
nicoleinny said,in March 1st, 2010 at 2:37 pm m2c- are you the moderator?? Why not take the high road and ignore it instead of bullying people whose opinion you disagree with. If someone says something bad it is the moderators job to remove not you to scold.
########## my response to you was in regard to this comment.
methinks- who was attacked for no reason…maybe I misread a post???? I come here to read people’s theories as I am frustrated also, however things get very contentious for no reason at all. ADMITTEDLY, WE ARE ALL SPECULATING!!
Actually, my three cats go longer being peaceful, and getting along than certain players on this blog. Ha ha, catty-ness, or is it people-ness. Talons, screeches; ever notice how cats yell like people?
Jason-No kidding….I am out of here. Craziness.
methinks:
A Guardian ad Litem and a child advocate are different things. A GAL is appointed by the Court either in a divorce/custody case or an abuse/neglect (DCF) case. The GAL represents only the child’s best interests. (It’s like an attorney for the child).
It’s quite common in missing person cases that the family/child has an advocate. To the best of my knowledge, the advocate helps the family with anything and everything they may need including helping the family deal with LE. (I don’t know a lot of specifics, sorry).
Hope that helps a bit.
Wow Gang…. I guess several here are ready to squeeze a few into tiny, tight balls!!
The thing with the leaked info… why tell it to a reporter or anyone… and actually I can’t remember who even mentioned the vacation… Wasn’t it also said, that it wouldn’t be talked about without confirmation/proof?
nicoleinny, Did you or did you not accuse m2c of bullting instead of taking the high road and ignore???
nicoleinny, welcome to the BNN. Resident cats may be territorial and quick to attack until you’re settled in. Just hold your own, don’t let them run you off – stake your claim to the empty seat on the sofa, or that empty armchair.
J, thanks fo the info, and yes it does explain it for me. I do know what a gardiem adlitem is, as my grandson had one while my son fought (and won) custody of him. I had heard of a child advocate, but didn’t know much about it. thanks.
JB said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 3:30 pm
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I think more info was leaked than simply Marie “going on vacation”. There was the info about “Marie taking certain things with her”.
IMO, when you have a case like this one, where we have 2 families that have been – not exactly close, but have at least tried to work together recently (at least by appearances at the vigils), people should not be leaking information out that was most likely said innocently, and then gets twisted into something ugly. KWIM?
So Marie in on vacation? Did that really need to be posted online by someone that was trusted by the family? And to add in something additional (that Marie “took something with her”). IMO, it’s all uncalled for and adds more drama to an already drama-filled situation. I just think it’s stupid and hurts people.
Hi, and bye to everyone for now. Much, much work to do as I am caring for a relative who recently became bedridden (hopefully not for long), in addition to work and other responsibilities. Feeling a little less overwhelmed, but still so much to do – like it never ends.
nicoleinny, Okay, heres how I think it works here… and this is from me to you: I apologize for jumping on you about m2c. I don’t want to argue or fight, but most of all, I don’t want you to feel unwelcome here. So please accept my apology and lets move on. truce? methinks.
You also have to take into account that it may have been leaked for many reasons. Remember what TJ said about sourses turning on you. jmo
J – so why mention it to a reporter if it is top secret? If she isn’t hiding something then what is the big deal? As for what she took with her….what is the big deal unless it is important to the case and if it is important to the case then I hope we (and LE) find out what it is/was. Otherwise, all of this is completely silly….
Now, as far as Becca signing her name as Haleigh’s Child Advocate…I think that was over the line…..If she isn’t a court appointed child advocate it would appear she is trying to insinuate she is and to ME, that is the bigger issue here! But don’t mind me…I’ve got much bigger issues to deal with…after all, I’ve decided to be The President of the United States today…..LOL
Take care.. Jason… and be good!!
It may have been “leaked” intentionally.
I don’t know what “it” is and I don’t care unless it is something that can be verified.
Consider also that sometimes people protest too much and that often the admonishment is designed not to protect, but to emphasize.
JB,
I am fairly certain the info was not given to a reporter. It was probably given to someone they speak to (blogger), and that person gave it to TJ (or someone that the original person speaks to) gave it to TJ or Simon – whomever. Why? I don’t know? To feel important?
Hey Cathartic….yup, not sure what the big deal is about the vacation, what MG took….but I sure hope we don’t hear about the underwear she took with her….I haven’t recovered from all the underwear conversations with Ron on the jailhouse tapes. PLEASE, not more undies stories! 😀
J – I guess I’m just trying to figure out what the big deal is about MG going on vacation…and why it required self appointed child advocates to come on here and brow beat bloggers? SO FLIPPIN’ WHAT? MG is going/has gone on vacation…who cares…..I would think that whomever received this information probably didn’t think it was to be kept top secret….and even if they DID know it was to be kept top secret it doesn’t amount to anymore than one of Nancy Grace’s “Bombshells” which is more of a “BombDud” so WHO CARES? And is ANY of this really going to help find Haleigh? NO! Ugh!
This item that is/isn’t on a vacation that MG may have/haven’t taken is starting to remind me of O.J’s missing little black bag!!! I’m at a lost… and I think I want to stay… lost!!!
Well they evidently didnt get the effect they wanted. I for one could careless if someone goes on vacation. I am sure they will be watched if need be. I see the croslins are trying to deflect attention towards Cousin Joe again too. When the going gets tough throw someone under the bus lol. jmo
JB said,in March 1st, 2010 at 4:02 pm Hey Cathartic….yup, not sure what the big deal is about the vacation, what MG took….but I sure hope we don’t hear about the underwear she took with her….I haven’t recovered from all the underwear conversations with Ron on the jailhouse tapes. PLEASE, not more undies stories!
Oh no Granny Panties. lol
Tobias – LOL – yeah, at the rate they are throwing people under the bus, they’re going to need a MUCH larger bus before this is over!
JB said,in March 1st, 2010 at 4:02 pm Hey Cathartic….yup, not sure what the big deal is about the vacation, what MG took….but I sure hope we don’t hear about the underwear she took with her….I haven’t recovered from all the underwear conversations with Ron on the jailhouse tapes. PLEASE, not more undies stories!
################# Man, I’m with you! Please!!!!
Tobias – that’s what I was thinking! NO granny Panty stories, PLEASE! LOL….of course, I don’t want to think of MG in a thong either….either way, it isn’t pretty so let’s not go there! LOL
I believe Jr. has been given representation in the custody proceedings, and that lawyer probably represents Haleigh too. Becca doesn’t sound like a lawyer to me, and I can’t help but wonder if she’s just another person trying to get 15 minutes out of this.
Re Marie going on vacation…WTH? Then who is looking after all those kids?….how many are there? We have Marie’s young one, 2 of Crystal’s, how many of Chad’s etc? And Crystal is in rehab? Does Crystal still have Jr.? I sure hope they haven’t left all those kids with her.
JB… LMAO!!!
JB, Stop my sides are hurting.lol jmo
With everybody under it, the wheels on the bus can’t possibly go round and round!
Talk about disinformation. Crystal is not in rehab and Yes she still has Junior.
Methinks…LMAO…okay, we’re all getting giddy! And I’m about to gouge my own eyes out thinking about MG in a thong! YIKES!
Cathartic @ 4:00 SO RIGHT!
JB @ 4:05 – I agree.
What I find much more suspicious than anyone’s supposed vacation or a supposed secret-let-slip is why this sudden appearance of certain bloggers? Hmmmmm.
skeptic…did Crystal drop out of rehab? When?
all this talk about granny pantys, boxers and thongs…if someone says the word “skidmarks” well, I’m just gonna’ hurl!!!
Boy O Boy Sure can tell we had a full moon cant we. Wheres Haleigh!!!!!!
JB, You know you want to see the vacation photos on the beach dont try to fool us. lol
Really why all the rumours about a vacation, a lot of people use tax refunds to go on vacations. I am one of them. Also someone may have given her the trip who knows? I think it was told to start speculation and well until it is a problem most dont really care. At least I dont. jmo
M2C – But aren’t you proud of me? I didn’t immediately roll out the welcome wagon! I’m learning! LOL – I’m still recovering from the whole “MOO” incident!
((((((BOMBSHELL))))))
***somewhere in Florida OR on a Vacation****
JB… tell it to me straight, right here, right now… I know….there is an item missing, packed in a suitcase… can you or can you NOT confirm… that the Exotic Wear can be worn with high heels!!
MeThinks… my sources tell me… there’s a rumor that perhaps… there is a matching set… with sequined thigh-high boots!!
Methinks… (((((SKID-MARKS))))))
How do you spell BLAWWWWWL DRIP PUKE ?
Tobias….OMG…MY EYES! MY EYES! Dang, I hope she goes somewhere COLD for vacation! Only way I want to see that woman is with multiple layers of clothing, a coat, hat and scarf! I haven’t recovered from the Geo and Spindy cruise pics yet! Him and his big hairy saggy man boobs….or was that Spindy…both look about the same in a swimsuit! YIKES!
me
She was never put into a rehab. She is at her home.
OMG JB!! Ya’ just had to add that visual didn’t ya???? yeeikes!
I think everyone on this blog knows until Haleigh is found no one is going anywhere that they wont be watched. Except maybe the shower. eeewww. jmo
OH B*A…I just threw up in my mouth…skidmarks! OMG! I’m laughing…but only inbetween choking on puke! GOOD GAWD YOUR POSTS NEED TO COME WITH A WARNING LABEL! ROFLMAO
Nicoleinny: Ya’ gotta see thru my comment!! It is a completely nonsense comment, just being my sarcastic self…I really don’t think that!!! Just like when I say i’m gonna buy him some new boxer shorts…Sometimes it’s cool to lighten the mood.
Well JB… Methinks sort of dared me @ 4:18… sorry!!
Ronfan…we’ve moved WAY past all of that and BOY has the mood lightened up…..and my lunch almost CAME up! LOL
I think her rehad was outpatient, but still with MG gone, who will babysit while she attends her groups? and who will drive her back and forth….how many carseats will fit in the vehicle???
skeptic….are you saying Marie was lying when she said Crystal was in rehab? I can’t imagine DCF leaving children with a drug addict without her going to rehab.
Whatever Maria took on her vaction,i bet my bottom dollar she and Crystal didn’t steal Haleigh!!!!!!
Methinks and m2c, thanks for having my back!! I know you all realize I was just kidding!! Love ya (gotta get back to writing my letter to Ron..) See Nicoleinny, I’m just joking!!!
m2c♥ said,in March 1st, 2010 at 4:15 pm What I find much more suspicious than anyone’s supposed vacation or a supposed secret-let-slip is why this sudden appearance of certain bloggers? Hmmmmm.
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Yep, hmmmmmm. And denying Crystal is in rehab etc….reminds me of the days when KP & crew were deliberately putting out misinformation on the blogs.
She has other family. Really I am sure her Dad and Step mom , Aunts, Uncles etc. are around.
And for all we know maybe Crystal and Junior went too. They may not have even left Florida.
Until someone tells us all we can do is speculate and well that isnt gonna help. jmo
B*A…ah, I see that now….hadn’t read that comment…..we’ll blame METHINKS for making me puke in my mouth! LOL
lunch anyone? mine is on the floor in front of me!
Methinks… Lisa and Hank are free to do some carpooling!! Just sayin!!
All jokes aside… isn’t Chad G still around??
me
Marie never said that Crystal was in rehab. IIRC, she was attending classes.
Goodness gracious, all of this fuss over Marie going somewhere for the weekend.
Ha ha ha
tobias said,in March 1st, 2010 at 4:32 pm She has other family. Really I am sure her Dad and Step mom , Aunts, Uncles etc. are around.
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You are “SURE” of this? How? I sure hope Hilda isn’t babysitting or any of the other RSOs that Chad might be related to. Who is the step mom you refer to?? Which aunts & uncles?
You think they took ALL the kids on vacation? How many are there, at least 5 or 6?
I believe Crystal is in outpatient rehab but has to go to really long group sessions…..or at least she was…..still a lot of kids to watch….surely someone who isn’t a complete crackhead is watching them…or at least one would hope.
methinks…yup, I’m cleaning my keyboard as we speak….it still splooshes a little when I type the letters O, P and L! LMAO….it will dry…eventually….just no more skidmark remarks….PLEASSSSSSEEEEEEEEE! LOL
i sure hope the homefront is being monitored.
skeptic said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 3:33 pm
I would love to hear what BOTH sides of the family have to say about Rebecca Thomas. From what I understand, it wouldn’t be very positive from either side
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If you don’t talk to the families how do you know it wouldn’t be positive?
Me, From what I understand Her dad and Connie are back in Florida. And from researching you should know there are lots of relatives. jmo
skeptic said,in March 1st, 2010 at 4:33 pm me
Marie never said that Crystal was in rehab. IIRC, she was attending classes.
Goodness gracious, all of this fuss over Marie going somewhere for the weekend.
Ha ha ha
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What is the “Ha ha ha” about?
You think it’s funny that a woman who cares so little about her own kids that she uses drugs while pregnant is not getting help for that drug problem? Looks like Jr & Chloe will wind up in foster care, which is probably for the best, unless GGMS or TN gets Jr.
Oh boy here we go again!!!! ok no more sk—–k jokes! squish squish
Really… what is the uproar about? MG vacationing… or Crystal’s ability/inability to care for her children!!! MG being home or not is going to do what… prevent something from happening or cause something to happen??
tobias….I have done the research, and I know Hilda Griffis (the child molester) is related to Chad and lives close by. I also know there are at least 5 other Griffis that are RSOs and live in that area, and some of those are probably related to him to. I pray DCF are keeping a close eye on those children.
Hey Gang!
WOW! Anybody get the feeling that what is so upsetting may hvae nothing to do with MG or a vaction…. I only got to listen to half the show last night. I’m going to start from the begining to see what I missed! LOL!
Yes… HollyG…. yes!!!
HGM, I believe its all about misinformation and rumours resurfacing. And well it looks like its happening pretty often now. jmo
Methinks…yup, I think the daggers are about to start flying again….we don’t know where, when or IF MG went anywhere, why she went, what she took (Methinks, B*A..refrain yourselves), who is watching the kids, if the kids went with or why ANY OF THIS IS BEING DISCUSSED! But we ALL have a very strong opinion about it anyway and are ready to defend our opinion to the death! Frankly, the thong and skidmark topics mights be less frightening when you really think about it! LOL
me said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 4:42 pm
tobias….I have done the research, and I know Hilda Griffis (the child molester) is related to Chad and lives close by. I also know there are at least 5 other Griffis that are RSOs and live in that area, and some of those are probably related to him to. I pray DCF are keeping a close eye on those children.
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Samuel B Griffis is another RSO that lives down the road from them
I don’t think the kids are safe no matter how many of these “adults” are home! The number of RSO’s in the family is frightening!
Can you say for a fact they are related? Smith is a popular name but they arent all related.
JMO
I’m thinking it’s about something from a couple of days ago….I think I know but not sure if it was discussed on the show or just in the comments….
The comment was that the Cummings are upset (paraphrasing, don’t want to go back and look).
Anyway, could the reason they are angry be, because perhaps they thought this would be an opportunity to get JR back… MG not standing guard!! Just a thought!!
I don’t know about RSO or SO but have you guys seen the felony crimminal records for members of both sides of Haleigh’s family….Yikes!
It could be that….It could be. I’m just wondering if 2 “Hot potatoes” that have been “discussed” here in the last few days is more the issue. Just a thought.
Tobias,
According to Intelius, the child sex molester Hilda is related to Chad….may be his mother, may be his Aunt…not sure….all the people that claim to know the family disappear when I ask how she is related. The others, not sure, but all live within close proximity of Chad & Crystal. There may be a lot of Smiths, but there are a disproportionate amount of Griffis registered as RSOs in that area….at least 5 or 6. You can check it yourself on the RSO website.
I have no problem with Marie going on vacation. I think that is fine.
What I do remember though is some of you that are so defending her right to do so blasted Ron for taking Jr to the park. Some of you said, how
dare Ron “living” life and going to a park.
How could he have “fun” with his daughter missing.
I was proud of him for “living” life with his son, taking him to play and have fun and spending that time with him.
I am not trying to argue but just point out the differences some make.
JB @ 4:20 – Yes, grasshopper, it is wise to be cautious, patient and very very observant.
(Unfortunately, I goofed and stepped in it right away! So much for my Yoda imitation! LOL!)
treece,
And I recall how badly TN was attacked when she supposedly took a Vegas vacation with her boyfriend. Seems only the Griffis are allowed vacations without being criticised.
M2C – LOL…I think I’ll sit this one out and just stand back and watch the daggers fly…I had to eat enough crow (and shovel enough cow patties) over the MOO thing to last me awhile! LMAO
bac, Wonder what went on in the courthouse the other day? Could this be the problem? jmo
Hey Treece!
I can see you point. I guess the only thing I think may be different is that a vaction now, over a year later just doesn’t seem as startling. Maybe… No matter who is taking it or “enjoying”.
As per Ron taking Jr to park and the like, I have no problem with….I took my son & daughter fishing the day after my infant son’s funeral…we needed a bonding moment…my son had caught his first fish that day…..bittersweet memories..
Treece… I don’t even think it’s about a vacation! I’m wondering if there is some truth to the thoughts/theory that all of a sudden this vacation is barely mentioned in the broadcast and now all hell is attempting to dominate. I’m very suspicious!!
I’ll bet the information was given out so it will be put on the show.Why tell a reporter.Why is there a child advocate,there’s no children there,is this person with an accredited group or a blogger that wants to get thier name in the news?Who would have known she went somewhere except those in the family and connected?Why is the father in jail for selling drugs is a better question.
Tobias @ 4:59… yes!!! some sort of supervision/stipulation… possibly!
B*A – yeah, sure were a lot of indignant people on here over something so small….there is either a LOT more to it…or just some lonely “wannabe’s” trying to stir the pot for some attention…. Let me know when you get it figured out….I’ll be right here….trying to get the image of the thong and skidmarks OUT of my head and the puke out of my keyboard! 😀
Brenda..you had me right up to the part where you daid “Why is the father in jail for selling drugs is a better question.”….uh, he’s in jail because he was selling drugs….was that a retorical question? Were you serious?
*said*…not *daid”…sheesh..dang puke in the keyboard!
JB… I’m thinking I’ll leave it alone!!
I’m thinking that Brenda meant they should worry about him in jail more than MG on vaction…JMO I could be wrong.
BAC,My thought exactly. It sure did cause a stir today well I am leaving for the day because my Hubby is on vacation( I am not) different jobs. Still he needs to have some fun on the computer too. Have a good day everyone. jmo
My 5:05 was for your 5:02 JB.
B*A…I don’t even know where to start. I’m so confused.
HollysGmom…Ah…that could be it…would make more sense….
Shall we discuss the PD then? LOL!
See ya Tobias!!
Before the “hoopla” MG on vaction was just a blip on my radar….something to think about later…LOL! NOW I want to know what the big deal is…..SHall I dig???
B*A…well, I hope someone sorts it out. We’ve had so many fly-by posters this afternoon making little comments and stirring things up and then leaving….I don’t know what to make of any of it. Dang, we need a break in this case before we all lose it…..we need some new lead, some break, a new video, SOMETHING…because I do NOT want to go back to discussing underwear again! So COME ON LE…GIVE US SOMETHING!
Be back in a while I will catch up on the hoop la. jmo
JB said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Brenda..you had me right up to the part where you daid “Why is the father in jail for selling drugs is a better question.”….uh, he’s in jail because he was selling drugs….was that a retorical question? Were you serious?
If Marie wasn’t selling drugs on vacation then who cares where she goes.The father and step mother are in jail for dealing drugs and the police have thier bond so high to keep them there.
Hollysgmom, I am sure that is bittersweet memories.
I don’t begrudge any of them for taking a vacation or having fun except whoever kidnapped Haleigh. To that ass I begrudge them getting air to breath. Past that person I can not imagine the pain this family has suffered. At some point they have to put the pieces back together to some degree to start living again. If a vacation can give them a little break and distraction from their pain I am all for it. I do not feel that is discounting to Haleigh. I think we agree they would need and deserve a break from time to time. Heck even we have to step away sometimes.
HollysGmom – Dig girl, DIG! It is WHAT YOU DO! And you do it brilliantly! If anyone can get to the bottom of this (and no that was not an underwear joke), YOU can! BUT, I WARN YOU…if the truth has ANYTHING to do with underwear, I DON’T want to know! 😆
SImon & Jan have often said there are those who try as they might to get things “shut down” here. I’m considering if this is one of “those days”.
cent, you are right, we don’t always know what is at the root of some of this stuff.
Uh, HollysGmom….can you translate Brenda’s post for me again…I’m afraid I’m reading it wrong…again! LOL
HollysGmom said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 5:05 pm
I’m thinking that Brenda meant they should worry about him in jail more than MG on vaction…JMO I could be wrong.
Thank you I’m just reading on so many forums and I can’t find much information on the child.It’s all about what each family is doing and I don’t think this is helping find the child.
I think it is one of those days!!
HollysGmom said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Before the “hoopla” MG on vaction was just a blip on my radar….something to think about later…LOL! NOW I want to know what the big deal is…..SHall I dig???
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Dig away, and report to us your findings. lol
Treece;TY, yes very tender bittersweet memories. I know what you mean, not only Haleigh’s family members but so many people who’ve taken her into their hearts a lives. WHomever is at the bottom of Haleigh’s abduction…well, I just can’t express it all not here. They do need a break and we too ahve had to take them…It’s been a long hard year with not much end in sight. Tragic….
JB; ROLTLMAO!!!! No underwear stories, I promise!!!
Everyone needs a break… or squeezed into balls!
Yea, I guess the break we really need is a break in this case.
JB… A thong is easy to squeeze into a ball…. I hear!
Becca,
In my opinion, the family members involved gave up the right to any personal life at all the day HaLeigh disappeared and they started asking for donations. I think some family members know exactly where she is. I have never stopped believing that she is alive and this was all done so Crystal could gain custody and prove Ron and Misty unfit. This just got bigger than they expected and now they don’t know how to bring her back or what to do. Until HaLeigh is returned they all need to be watched. If they take a vacation or not, I personally cannot understand how a grandmother who appears to love her granddaughter so much could take a vacation knowing her granddaughter is out there somewhere. Oh, wait, never mind. She knows where she is…. forgot that part.
Okay, I am ready let the nasty comments fly…I am tired of waiting day after day wondering if one of these cowards are gonna say where HaLeigh is. Stop waiting for Misty, she is not smart enough to pull one over on PCSO, FDLE AND THE FBI.
One more thing while I am at it…Let’s put Johnny and Connie Sheffield, Marie and Bruce Griffis, Crystal Sheffield, Peggy Cone, and Andrew Sheffield on the machine and see who passes. JMO….
HollyG… yes that would be great!!
B*A – everyone needs something…like perhaps some anti-anxiety meds…Sheesh! But Ron could probably help us with the drugs or squeezing people into balls! LOL Dang, where is Ron when we need him!?
I’ve been reading here for some time just Sat. I thought this is one blog where the Bloggers get along [mind you that’s thoughts I’ve on others just after that thought…NOT ] so today I’m back reading and here goes my thought,screaming,yelling,feelings pushed around. But I continue to read and along comes this Blogger JB and I got to laugh with all of you.JB I have to your a Hero for finding the way to turning all the BS into “bomb shell” blogging the rest of the family followed. Thanks guys
Linda, Don’t you just love JB?
Iowamom…well, I’m certainly all for a friendly abductor…if that would bring Haleigh home safe and sound…but unfortunately I just can’t believe they could pull it off this long. As far as MG taking a vacation…well, I don’t see anything wrong with any of these people getting away for a weekend….especially a year after Haleigh’s disappearance. Everyone needs to get away….as long as it isn’t on donated money! If MG is helping to watch 5 or 6 kids…she is probably long overdue for a break don’t you think? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think very highly of MG or any of the Crystal clan….but it has been a year….and she probably does need a break.
Now, as far as putting ALL the family members on a LDT…I’m ALL for that!
Amen JB!!! Maybe it should be protocol after a year….Line em ALL up.
Linda – thanks but I think it was Methinks and B*A that really had us rolling (or puking as the case may be)!
And don’t give me too much credit…I just happen to be still licking my wounds after defending a certain “bovine” who recently blogged here who turned out to have mad cow disease….. so I’m more apt to laugh and make light of the situation than jump in and defend a position at this point…… AND, when you think about it…all of the hysteria over whether MG took a vacation or not is a bit over the top.
JB
It is so frustrating that the families are not looking for her. Never have. God forbid that were my child I would be out looking and getting fliers out, whatever I could do. But, the lack of doing any of those things makes me think Marie knows where HaLeigh is at. AnneinTenn and I spent a lot of our own money and a lot of time at truck stops handing out fliers. Many weekends. I tried to cover the I-80 area from Iowa to Illinois. She did Tenn and N.Carolina, Georgia (parts of). What did Crystal and Marie do?
Maybe she does need a vacation, but still what about bringing HaLeigh home. I wonder what the charges would be?
Iowamom, I think they all should have been on it a year ago. Why haven’t they been??
I’m starting to wonder if a few “cow patties” about something going on might have been about the PD…..
Kidnapping, conspiracy?, WIthholding evidence, gosh, there could be a laundry list of charges…
Iowamom…that is what gets me about Ron too. I mean, the guy is a walking stick of dynamite, rarely makes a rational decision and is ready to fight anyone for anything…. so you would have thought he would have been kicking in doors, threatening people, looking high and low for Haleigh….UNLESS he already knew where she was…or that she wasn’t coming back. But, the same could be said about all of them because NONE of them much in the way of trying to find her. Either they are all so high they can’t think normally or they know what happened to Haleigh and know the truth so are just “acting the part”.
Treece – YES, all of these people should have undergone LDT’s within a day or two of Haleigh going missing. I know they aren’t admissable in court but they might have pointed LE in the right direction at least.
Is it me again? Is that why so many left? LOL. I’ll leave if you want….
JB, I say stop licking your wounds and heal up. I think you were so sweet with your apologies and looks like all your buddies have forgiven you. We have all missed it a time or two and I am sure we all will again. It’s ok. Now we all seem to be in agreement, which is so rare here. Line up all up!!!! Let’s see who passes!!!! It is past time for some action and results on this case. JMO
HollysGmom- Oh please tell me you aren’t talking about MOO…. I think I have a new phobia of cows!
I think yes, they all should have been strapped… and not only that… they should have insisted LE strap them in asap!!
Treece, I don’t know why they haven’t all been tested. I really think Johnny and Andrew Sheffield may have more pull in Putnam county then anyone realizes. Maybe that is why. I just wish HaLeigh were home and her and Jr. were in a stable loving family.
Crystal thinking she could gain custody of them this way, parental kidnapping, could backfire and she could lose all three of her children eventually. Sad this situation has been going on this long. The FBI needs to clean house. Today.
Also while I am spouting off my thoughts, lol. What ever happened to the wonderful Mr. Snodgrass, was his part in this to take the attention off finding HaLeigh and for his part did he just get a free walk?
While I agree it probably isn’t a good idea for family members to be out literally beating the brushes to find her, I do think ALL of them could do a lot more in the way of POSITIVE media attention, flyers, rallys, Heck, I’d be trying to organize some hands across America type deal….I don’t even have a child or family member missing but I am working on getting Amber Alerts & the like into ALL major hotel chain computers….eventually all hotels & motels….I really think it could make a difference! As a hotel front desk clerk I see everyone who checks in and who arrives with them. HOusekeeping could be kept apprised as well just in case….There’s a lot that could be done!
HollysGmom …what are you talking about? I was talking about MOO…. not you…no you shouldn’t leave. I stuck up for MOO to M2C and defended her only to watch her morph into a raging lunatic….so I apologized to M2C and swore not to roll out the welcome wagon again….Oh, and I had to shovel up all the cow patties as punishment! LOL
HGm @ 5:12 – That’s exactly what I think (in my post @ 4:15)
Hey I’m back…I had to go change clothes…they hada lil barf on em.
I’ve been working on this idea since little Shaniya’s murder….
Treece – thank you. Yes, we are a forgiving bunch….LOL….even after my blunder I’m still welcome here at the NOT so OK Corral! LOL
Now, JB, you know that was self-inflicted punishment (how naughty of you! lol!)
I didn’t make you do it!
I just have to wonder if some other members of the herd wandered in today.
JB… I think HollyG was talking of others…. and certainly not her really leaving.
HollyG… wonderful Amber Alert mission… God, it makes perfect sense!!!
JB…sorry no…I was joking…..sometimes I have a hard time refreshing the page and I have to go out and come back in…so I tease that everyone has run off on me…Sorry…
So why would someone want to shut down this blog…it is so informative…and entertaining…and informative! LOL
Hollysgma, I totally agree, there is so much more they could do… it’s almost like.. life goes on.
Hey pink panther!!!
Jb, I think that’s the reason, in a nut case…LOL! Too INFORMATIVE…
m15/spook!!!
M2C – well, if another herd member slipped in…someone else can shovel crap…I did my share already! LOL And yes, the shoveling crap was sort of my way of making amends…but GAWD it sucked!
From now on when I come here and I start seeing a bunch of names of people I’ve not seen before, I’m just going to hide and watch rather than offer them cookies and koolaid on the good china! SHEESH! I’ve learned MY lesson!
da dun da dun…da duh da dun…..
JB – Not sure how long you’ve been bloggin on this topic (or others) but there seem to be bands of “haters” who surf the net to cause trouble. Why? Because they get sick kicks out of it I guess.
Hence, trying to bait us into fights and things that could get the blog closed down or some of us banned.
I didn’t know such “people” existed. Wonder what they did for kicks before the internet?
Beat up on their neighbors? Co-workers? I guess so. They’re just common bullies IMO.
da dun da dun da dun
sorry carrying a tune is one of the many things i can’t do! LOL
Read my 12;02 post. seems that was when everyone came out of the wood work but I could be wrong. jmo
LE wanting Cobra out of Putnam County and out of the Haleigh CCummings investigation is very interesting…. Its sounds like he may have said too much and now they want him to steer clear of anything to do with Haleigh.
And Marie is mad that everyone knows she is going on “vacation” HUH whatever! Everybody is in the public eye and we are watching everyones every move we have watched the Cummings, Croslins, and what makes the Sheffields/Griffis any different???? Wonder how much pressure they could take if it was on them like it has been on Ron and Misty???? it looks to me like they dont do well under pressure and we could get some answers if we keep asking that side of the family!!! jmo
HollysGmom, Great idea! Thank you for your hard work. I know we are all trying to do something, even if it is just to forward an Amber Alert or tell someone about it. Some how we have to come up with ways to get the public involved and aware these children are missing right away. I think there are several problems with the Amber system that need to be changed for it to be more effective. You would be surprised to know how many truck drivers Anne and I talked to that didn’t have a clue about HaLeigh or her case. I was shocked. When Johnny Gosh went missing from Iowa in the early 80’s I remember seeing missing children on sides of trucks and milk cartons, just about everywhere. Is that still in practice and I just miss them or is that something that cost too much to do now? HaLeigh Bug money should have been used to plaster her sweet face all over. Then perhaps it wouldn’t be so easy to keep her hidden. IMO
Yes, well, all most all hotels use 1 of maybe 3 or 4 different types of programs to connect to a central database. If the promgrams added a little window with amber alret info into that program it could be easily done. All modern hotels & motels have constant online capabilities so updates are a breeze. It could refresh with the other phone & internet programs….It’s just in the planning phase but I will be working towards that goal…
M2C – well, I’ve read here for probably close to 2 years off and on…. never really blogged much anywhere though. I have certainly seen my share of trouble makers though…..they are EVERYWHERE….. I think it was easier for me to spot them when I just READ on the blogs and didn’t post. Really easy to get sucked into their games when you are actually posting. But I really didn’t see MOO coming…I guess I was just so hopeful we’d have a member of LE blogging with us that I didn’t see the warning signs.
Methinks@ 5:54… I too am not a great carrier, although I’ve tricked my own self on several occasions into believing I could. Comes with the territory I suppose!!
Well Kids… I’m about to leave my Mothers… and I shall see you in a hour or 2!!!
Well, night all…will log in later if I can….but as I leave…let me leave you with this thought…..SKKKKIIIDDDMMMAARRRKKKKSSSSS! HEE HEE HEE
iowamom; I also think the Trucker TV idea is phenomenal!!! I know truckers and most are family men with kids at home and they too want to help others. Not to mention they see a lot out on those hwys & byways!!! They could so easily be empowered to “find” a certain vehicle, tag, or desciption as well as keep eyes out at truck stops and restaraunts…so many good ways they could help!
tobias, regarding your 12:02, just might be! I skimmed down alittle, and hmmmm
well, I’m off again as well…more company. I can’t wait to move out of town!!!
JB….LOL!
Methinks, Chucks sure would have a big influence on a lot of people down there needing bail. Just saying. jmo
And just maybe what Rebbeca was referring to was news about Cobra dealings in court tomorrow,instead of Marie’s Vacation and all her under wear selection’s.
Panties!!!
with skidmarksss
bbl
JB @ 5:58 – You’re right actually, though. There are different kinds of things that happen. One is a lot more insidious and subtle. Even though the other can trick us too – but differently.
Have a great evening!
Could be Cobra may get a gag order on things he may know. Stranger things have happened in this case. I just thought of that possibility. Someone may not want him to talk about anything once he is free of charges. jmo
Tobias, I think it was your 12:09 that brought whatever it was out of the woodwork.
I have a question…why is it a problem for Amber Alerts to go out at least Regionally immediately? Almost all of the early information is tranferred digitally, so why not? Err on the side of caution….Go National with 6 hours, or time period it would take to be out of that Region….anybody know?
That sounds like I”m blaming you. Sorry. I did not write that well. I think the topic of that post is what did it. It’s not your fault at all.
tobias said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Now I am curious, where did MG go and what were the items? Very mysterious.jmo
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Simon, we still want to know, what are the items??
m2c. that’s what I thought too….
I just realized something…I went to the Putnam county criminal dockets search link and looked at all of Misty’s filings and I realized something….Not all of the drug bust charges have the PD info, only the last one on the list, I think…in case anybody wanted to know.
I understand. But why the sudden thrust of bloggers when things were so slow lately? Did they know this was gonna get aired and came on to do damage control or am I just getting a paranoid feeling here? jmo
hmmm crickets.
Hollys, regarding the application for PD, could it be because the motion was made in court in Putnam, but she has not been arraigned yet on the charges in St. John’s? Maybe after that happens there will be app for PD there as well. JMO.
http://www.putnam-fl.com/secure/public_disclaimer.php
click I have & unerstand…
click on criminal dockets…
new window opens…in name field put croslin%
you will get all of the Croslin’s criminal docket info
the last 2 on the list are Misty’s ….Both of those list the PD application, the others above do not.
She’s still set to stand before Judge Berger on 03/08/10 @ 1:30 PM for Felony Arrainment
Are Rons the same because he had some in Flagler.
cathartic….that could be very true….good point!
Strange, I was checking Flagler and all I found was closed cases on Ron for underage drinking & contributing. I’ll look again….
They consolidated the cases I think during the ariegnments.(SPELL) SORRY JMO
Tobias, I haven’t been on for a while, needed to take a break from the circus, even with my break I am still mad that this case is not resolved. So much for the break…lol.
What got me fired up today was the comment by Becca asking what gives us the right? That did it for me.
I really do believe the Sheffields and Griffis clan need to be investigated further. Long over due. LDT’s for the bunch! I cannot remember and cannot find the post but I agree with the blogger who said we need to keep the pressure on them. And I too wonder just how much pressure it will take for them to break and give up the information or bring HaLeigh home? Also, I agree Chuck’s Bail Bond business is suspect…and again what about Mr. Snodgrass? Some deal he got huh…
Iowamom, I remember you. Its the unfamiliar bloggers that I am suspect of. And yes I agree that LE needs to be vigilant. I believe they said they are when they said they arent geting tunnel vision. No one has been cleared that I have heard. Cystal and Chad were both given LDs Crystal early on and Chad later when they found the drug paraphenalia. jmo
Crystal said out of her own mouth that she did NOT take a lie detector test!!
Kim Picazio said out of her own mouth that the Sheffield’s/Griffis were never questioned….WHY?????????????
Denise, please post verification….I will try to locate the one that she says she did.
I’ve seen many levels of dysfunction in families over the years, starting with my own. But these families are so out there it almost defies belief. And what if they are actually a lot worse than we see? Meaning, while they were in the limelight they were on their best behavior. I want Haleigh found alive and well, but I do not want her coming back home.
Denise said,in March 1st, 2010 at 6:39 pm Kim Picazio said out of her own mouth that the Sheffield’s/Griffis were never questioned….WHY?????????????
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Yep your right. No need for a link to prove this. we all know your right Denese.Why cuz they know where Haleigh is.
On national TV on the NG show yes I took a poligraph. Crystal S. took one. jmo
I see why TJ talked on the show about past rumour and misinformation popping back up. jmo
My proof about the Lie Detector Test is on you tube on Feb.12, 2009 and the interview was with Sheppard Smith
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,491485,00.html
Detectives believe Haleigh was abducted — and they aren’t overlooking anyone, including family members, as suspects.
Several people have been interviewed by police and the FBI, and all have been offered the chance to take a lie detector test, Putnam County Sheriff’s spokesman Gary Bowling said.
In addition to Croslin, Cummings and the child’s mother, Crystal Sheffield, as well as several others have been questioned in the case.
“It is never safe to say that a family member is not a suspect,” Bowling said Wednesday. “However, all the world is a suspect right now.”
The child’s mother doesn’t live in the area but traveled to Putnam County after she learned of her daughter’s disappearance and has been interviewed, according to Rose.
“She is cooperating,” Rose told FOX News on Wednesday.
SO at least we know from this article
1: Crystal was offered a LD right away
2: Crystal was questioned immediately
3: Crystal was cooperating with LE
4: LE does not rule our familial suspect/abduction
Tobias could you tell me when she told that on NG just want to go see for myself….Thanks!
Sorry everyone but most of us on here have been for the last year and are very informed and have a lot of the true info. If we can we will direct you to links so you can also be informed. jmo
Denise, That was before she took it. jmo
I have been on this case from day one and never remember Crystal saying she took LDT
All I’m trying to do is stop a bickering war…If you have those convictions or evidences, offer the verification. That’s all. No need to argue back and forth. Just post what you have or offer info on how to find, as you did after prompted. TY
when did she take it then???
Kim Picazio was interviewed and she said her client was never a suspect,,,, why not???
AGreed, sometimes there’s newer information that not everyone has seen or heard, on any “player”.
NG show someone called in and asked the show was on Feb. 23 2009 jmo Just google crystal Sheffield lie detector and go to cnn transcripts. jmo
I just gave you verification HollysGMOM what other proof do you want
Nancy Grace Feb 24 2009
Did she pass or fail??
Hell i have been on this case from day one and the only thing i need to got LE to get off there ass and go get Haleigh.
Feb 24, 2009 … GRACE: Everyone, Crystal Sheffield announcing tonight she has taken and passed a lie detector test. (END VIDEO CLIP) …
transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/24/ng.01.html
Becca1, I think you burned your own toast. The way I took the show, is that the info. came from numerous contacts, not just one…Maybe I need to go back and listen and I think I will.
LE is the only ones who can say whether anyone has passed or failed and so far the only person that has been said to fail is Misty. jmo
I’m not attacking Denise…I Thanked You for offering the info….I just wanted us to try to post proof positive one way or the other, that’s all. That way we ALL know what is up to date info.
Thats what Misty said too and Ron I guess they all grade their own test…. jmo
Why the defensive attitudes? We are here to help. jmo
I just get frustrated to keep focusing on one side of this story we will never learn the facts or what really happened if we dont look at the whole picture I dont know any of these people and am not trying to pick a side but it seems like the media has picked a side and wont focus on everyone, everything, and every motive… jmo
HGM is a fountain of trustworthy information just bear with it and she will direct you to the sites . jmo
I have never heard of anyone really passing a ldt or failing they either show deception or not and alot of “good” liers can get thru a ldt with flying colors and alot of innocent people will show deception out of fear so I dont really hold alot of faith in the LDT’s
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/24/ng.01.html
Police are interviewing anyone who had a connection to the child, giving polygraphs and even re-questioning family members when needed.
GRACE: Straight to T.J. Hart, news director with WSKY 97.3. Mr. Hart, all the family is telling me they have all taken and passed polygraphs, some of them multiple polygraphs. So why is it, T.J., that police, the lead investigator, says that nobody has been cleared?
T.J. HART, WSKY 97.3: That`s because the polygraph examinations are also sent elsewhere, too, and the results of those are never given, to my understanding, to the person who takes them. No one has been informed directly that they have passed or not passed. I don`t know why anyone would say that unless someone said, you know, We`re through here and it looks good…
GRACE: Ms. Sheffield, have you taken a lie detector test?
SHEFFIELD: I sure have.
GRACE: And did you pass it?
SHEFFIELD: As far as I know. The man that did it told me he thinks I did, but they had to send it off to Washington to the…
GRACE: And did you do it voluntarily? Did you protest, or did you go along?
SHEFFIELD: Yes, I did.
GRACE: Everyone, Crystal Sheffield announcing tonight she has taken and passed a lie detector test.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
Than why did you want to know if Crystal took one? just asking a polite question jmo
I was really happy that TJ was a guest on this transcript…it helped me to take it more seriously….also I liked his description about LD tests and pass or fail…I also found it interesting that Crystal said she passed…as far as she knew. Ron & Misty insisted they passed, period.
lostinthemiddle, Becca1?? where is she ? she hasn’t been here since early today..is your comment meant for umm oh Denise??maybe
Because the fact that LE would not take everyone that anykind of relationship with Haleigh and question them on where when and how and any other question they could think of blows my mind. Crystal Sheffield did have motive to take her daughter or someone do it for her and for her to go on national tv 2 full days after her daughter is missing and LE has still not pulled her to the side to question her makes me feel like they did not do their job as good as they could have. That is the first thing they should have done with EVERYONE on BOTH sides of the family.
Sorting through inforamation/misinformation….All we really have are people’s words to go by right now. Crystal might have told NG yes but really didn’t but I don’t see how that could have stayed a secret until KP.
wait…isn’t Becca Haleighs child advocate? becca if your here give us a sign???lllooolll
Denise…LOL Strong emotions there…(Ghost in the machine duplicateing)
sorry that posted so many times!!
I’m thinking I need to take another look at KP Bar response….there may be more there then what meets the eye….If KP lied in her Bar response about Crystal’s LD, then what else is there? Ane why lie to Bar? Was she saying that Crystal lied to NG and since?
Denise said,in March 1st, 2010 at 7:09 pm
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I agree on your last post totally. fair is fair.
For petes sake someone sure is mad about that vacation and items taken on it. Sure wished it would get cleared up or was it all misinformation to begin with. jmo
Kim Picazio has emails trying to set up Misty and white boy Greg so when it comes to Kim Picazio I dont believe a word she says… jmo
I’m going to go look…at a few things….I’ll pop in and out.
Brenda said,in March 1st, 2010 at 5:01 pm I’ll bet the information was given out so it will be put on the show.Why tell a reporter.Why is there a child advocate,there’s no children there,is this person with an accredited group or a blogger that wants to get thier name in the news?Who would have known she went somewhere except those in the family and connected?Why is the father in jail for selling drugs is a better question.
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What better way to get someone looking in a different direction,I’d worry more about whose going the other way,MG is the bait.imo
Trying to catch up Guys!
Denise said,in March 1st, 2010 at 7:09 pm Because the fact that LE would not take everyone that anykind of relationship with Haleigh and question them on where when and how and any other question they could think of blows my mind. Crystal Sheffield did have motive to take her daughter or someone do it for her and for her to go on national tv 2 full days after her daughter is missing and LE has still not pulled her to the side to question her makes me feel like they did not do their job as good as they could have. That is the first thing they should have done with EVERYONE on BOTH sides of the family.
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Amen!!
CathyJo,
I agree with the Marie/Bait comment, good idea I didn’t even think of it. Wouldn’t put it past them. JMO. They are pretty sneaky.
Amen to that one too Iowamom..They sure are!
Isn’t that what you’d do? Cindy and george just never thought of it,they thought they’d hide the evidence and that would work.LoL
I just read an article abour Ron by Levi Page…interesting summation…
Who is sneaky, surely you are not talking about Ron and Misty there is nothing they have done that we dont know about now when it comes to Crystal, Marie, Chad, Marty…. when is the last time we have heard anything about them Crystal fails a drug test with Jr. and Chloe in her home and it gets a slight mention we all know she is a drug addict too. That is beside the point little drug addict Misty and the clan gets propositioned by a UC Im not taking up for them but I would bet anything if the same offer was made to Crystal and Chad they would be right there too. JMO
For all we know the whole vacation could be a lie. There is no real information that she went anywhere. jmo
The early bird gets the worm but the 2nd mouse get’s the cheese!
Amen again Denise! IMO
Denise said,in March 1st, 2010 at 7:09 pm Because the fact that LE would not take everyone that anykind of relationship with Haleigh and question them on where when and how and any other question they could think of blows my mind. Crystal Sheffield did have motive to take her daughter or someone do it for her and for her to go on national tv 2 full days after her daughter is missing and LE has still not pulled her to the side to question her makes me feel like they did not do their job as good as they could have. That is the first thing they should have done with EVERYONE on BOTH sides of the family.
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IMO She had 5 yrs to want them,hmmmmm
and woulda had a chance if not for drug’s!imo
Denise at 7:01 pm You said, “I am not trying to pick a side but it seems like the media has picked a side and wont focus on everyone, everything, and every motive…:”
You are right but it wasn’t just the media. As other posts have said, it was LE from the start who looked in only one direction. We have yet to find out why. But they never have investigated the other side of the family. It’s ridiculous!
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Also, Tobias and CathyJo – “Misinformation” and “bait” = Great thoughts! And real possibilities!
I’m sorry if nobody agrees but since Ron’s been in jail i havent heard one pleaa from them on n/g or geraldo! Atleast ron did do that!
CathyJo63 said,in March 1st, 2010 at 7:35 pm I’m sorry if nobody agrees but since Ron’s been in jail i havent heard one pleaa from them on n/g or geraldo! Atleast ron did do that!
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Ditto!!!!!!!!!!
tobias said,in March 1st, 2010 at 7:28 pm For all we know the whole vacation could be a lie. There is no real information that she went anywhere. jmo
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Exactly Tobias,they know they’d be watched,these people ain’t the biggest dummies in the world!
Could it be because right now all NG wants is to find out what Misty knows and she doesnt want Crystal on the show? I dont think someone just calls and gets to be on the show unless she wants them or they have info she wants. jmo
Denise,even with the motive alone they should have? Thats the first thing you’re supposed to do.Look for a Motive,am i right?
I think they are trying to stay away fromt the media everytime Crystal is interviewed more questions come from it than answers. And Marie acts like she is runnning the “show” jmo
night, i can’t keep up anymore tanight…i’ll just go lay by my dish.
Lord No Tobias,I doubt that!!
their old buddy Geraldo would!!
I believe someone (more than likely a blogger) gave this false info out to start a hoopla going. Thats why the info Simon gave was said to be second or third hand news thus it is rumours. jmo
Exactly Tobias,away from the media cause theyre as guilty as M and R on the drug situation! IMO
Why would she worry about that,to get her daughter back? Hello,they could ask me when the last bowel movement i had was!
Exactly CathyJo that is the FIRST place you would look. Misty had no motive, no car, and should have been really easy to figure out. It would be like sitting my 14yr. old down and finding out if she is lying about something. Misty is no smarter than my daughter and I guarantee if I tried hard enough she would slip up if she was guilty… jmo
Exactly Denise,and she’d have blew by now!
Scott Peterson looked to be an intelligent man but when it came to his “perfect crime” he was an idiot. So you are telling me that Misty is smart enough to pull it off???? I dont think so……jmo
Well I will see you later good night Cathy.
I still say read above where Simon says it is second or third hand information. So it is not a reliable source . jmo
Denise,No i am not saying that at all,I am saying that she is 18,scared todeath..what else can be worse than the trouble she’s in now,I think she lied,I do but only about where she was or who was at the mh with her that night!
Ty Tobias,I will,I’m just sick of these idiots playing this game of Haleighs life!
m2c♥ said,in March 1st, 2010 at 7:35 pm
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Always a thought to ponder with this bunch!
Denise, I think Misty is far more wordly then your daughter…SHe’s been raised in the don’t trust LE, drugs, abuse, neglect, self-absorbed lifestyle. She is more crafty then your average 18 yr olds.
Are you telling us that the Griffis/Sheffields are smart enough? IMO you’re giving them ALL too much credit.
Hiding a body and keeping it hidden isn’t that hard, hiding a live child & keeping her hidden…now that’s a challenge!
Hey Blog Buddies ive been lurking tonite and Denise how do u know about these emails Kim had sent out to set up Misty n WBG? The only place i read that was writeintoaction[the nut].com IMO almost everything he says in far fetched.Or has anyone else read this info elsewhere?
Holly’s,I luv ya but yes I do!
with help ofcourse!
LoL Holly’s…….you just have to think stuPid to catch stupid criminals!LoL
Cathy, when too many people are involved in a cover up someone always gets cold feet and talks. Well know facts. The less involved in a crime the more successful it is. jmo
IMO MISTY HAS ALREADY PULLED IT OFF ALONG WITH HER PARTNER IN CRIME,RONALD CUMMINGS.IF SHE CONTINUES TO KEEP HER MOUTH SHUT SHE WILL GET AWAY W/ THE PERFECT CRIME.IF LE HAD ANYTHING AT ALL ANYTHING SHE’D BEEN ARRESTED FOR IT AND NOT THOSE PETTY DRUG TRANSACTIONS.BULLCRAP FORREAL THE DRUGS WASN’T EVEN HERS OR RONS THEY HAD TO CALL 4 THEM.THEY R ADDICTS NOT DEALERS.IMO
Tobias,it depends who does know! How do we know cs knows…..her mom is well uhhhhhh lets not go there,m2 cut my limit.LoL (FUNNIN M2)
But also why would js say they can’t touch him in ky,heck aint no way i’d let cs know a doggone thing!
I believe that was in refernce to his dog fighting problems. jmo
“A secret is Kept between three only when two are dead”
” Benjamin Frankilin”
Pinkey32/HUMBLED said,in March 1st, 2010 at 7:54 pm Hey Blog Buddies ive been lurking tonite and Denise how do u know about these emails Kim had sent out to set up Misty n WBG? The only place i read that was writeintoaction[the nut].com IMO almost everything he says in far fetched.Or has anyone else read this info elsewhere?
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I really dont know why you say it is far fetched he backed up his info with the emails that Kim wrote. Also, his info came from Kim, Cobra, Marty, etc. IMO that is why LE doesnt want Cobra in Putnam County or on the Haleigh case because he has caused problems with them and now they will be under the microscope, If all of these allegations are false why hasnt LE said anything?????? I happen to believe what he says because he seems to be able to back it up
I hope it was ben,lol
I saw that quote last night and i love it!
I DON’T THINK ANYONE BUT MISTY N RON ARE IN ON THIS,BCUZ IF ANYONE ELSE WAS INVOLVED THE TRUTH WOULDA BEEN XPOSED BY NOW.THERE ASSOCIATES R ADDICTS TOO AND DISLOYAL.SO IF THEY WERE INVOLVED THEY WOULDA SANG A LONG TIME AGO.
SO let’s zero in on JS if that’s who you think is the suspect or POI….LEt’s find out real time info, all we can….maps, geography of area, residences, neighbors, friends, co-workers, associates….
I found those a long while back and they i don’t think are allowed here on this blog,as to the ? if they’re true…..don’t have a clue but i do know theres nothing we know is true! so far.lol ya know Denise!
HollysGMom I agree that Misty is more wordly than my daughter but not enough to keep her out of trouble with the UC when everyone was telling her that he could be trouble. LE is trained to deal with these kind of people and I dont believe she can outsmart LE… jmo
Things look much clearer now. Why are the crayon mans supporters here? Hmmmmmmmm. jmo
No need to respond I will not respond back. I dont believe a word he spews. jmo
Pinkey,I do know the jails are full of user’s,never dealers or SO!
OK DENISE UR OPINION. HERES MINE I THINK HE JUST MAKES THE GARBAGE FIT.LE N THE FBI PAID HIM NO MIND NOT BCUZ HE MADE TROUBLE THAT MADE SENSE BUT HE STATED HIS “CRAZY” OPINION AS FACT AND IT’S NOT FACTS BUT STUFF HE JUST PUT TOGETHER TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.AGAING IN MY PERSONAL OPINION HE MAKES HIS GARBAGE FIT.MY OPINION.ALSO IF ANYONE PAID HIM ANY ATTENTION [LE] HE WOULDA HURT HALEIGHS CASE MORE THAN HELPED IT.
You dont have too he seems to think he has enough info to file a civil rights complaint and to contact the Senator of Fl. we will just have to see what happens… when I look at his page looks like things may be moving along…
Why wait around…if we can provide a tip, or a reason to search…let’s try!!!
LE doesnt want attention on him if attention is on him then people will be wanting answers to the questions he is asking…. Like Me!
Tobias,for the same reason the momma endangered a child before she was even born I guess..jmo
WHO IS THE CRAYON MAN???LOL THAT SOUNDS FONNY….
(((Skidding)))
TIM H. the crayon man color in the picture which ever way you want it. jmo
Tobias what has he reported that you KNOW is a LIE or NOT FACT
Lots of hash marks on the runway tonight BA cent lol. jmo
Crap… here we go again!!
Yes there are!!!
just want anyone to clear up any misinformation….
Oh…I see NG has given him som “credit”….oh Boy!
Sorry,I jumped fast,I apologize,I thought crayon man meant Ron!
WHAT HAS TIM H. REPORTED THAT HAS BENEFITED THE CASE?WHAT HAS HE REPOTED THAT WAS PROVEN TRUE BY ONE THAT WAS CREDABLE AND HAD NOTHING TO GAIN…DENISE?
Credit who…TH
Not me Adams..LoL
WHOSE FACTS??TIM H.FACTS ONLY HIS OWN INSANE TROUBLEMAKIN FACTS IMO
Well there was a fake search…. why
Well there are emails from Kim P. wanting to set up white boy Greg and Misty….why
Well there is recordings from another state saying that the sighting of Haleigh Cummings at the convience store was not followed up on….why I can go on an on
Which guy said he had a story to tell… but would only do it on National TV?
Those are questions I want answers to.
Hey Cathy!!!!
Pinkey Tim H. is not saying ANYTHING he is giving interviews that everyone else is saying he doesnt have to say a word!!!! you may want to revisit his site
HE HAS SHOWED ME MORE EVIDENCE THAN LE HAS AND LE COULD BE ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT HE IS ACCUSING THEM OF BUT I HAVENT HEARD A WORD FROM THEM…..WHY NOT?????
Perhaps LE just doesn’t give a damn about what TH is spewing!!!!
T I M H. IS THE GUY THAT WANT TO TELL HIS”STORY” BUT ONLY ON NATIONAL TV.IF HE REALLY CARED ABOUT HALEIGH OR REALLY HAD SOMETHING TO SAY TV WOULDN’T MATTER.HE WANTS HIS12MIN.OF FAME HE’D PROBABLY SETTLE FOR 3MIN.IDK
WHAT I DO KNOW IS SOME ONE KNOWS WHERE THIS BABY IS SHE DIDN’T JUST DISAPPEAR OFF THE EARTH.I REALLY DON’T THINK CRYSTAL N MARIA HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.FOR ONE IMO CRYSTALISN’T BRIGHT ENUFF AND IMO SHE WAS FINE W/ HAVING THE KIDS 2TIMES A MONTH.UNTIL HALEIGH WENT MISSING.
Denise, I would like to know if he has all the questions you want answered why arent you asking him for the answers? Why are you recruiting for him? We will discuss interest in the case but you seem to not like the answers we are trying to provide( the ones we know for sure on) like the Lie detectoer tests. jmo I really am leaving now as I am tired of the run around and TH supporters. Have a goodnight all. jmo
The funny thing is I’ve been to his site, I believe he has some credibility…. but I’m not about to go toe to toe FOR someone that is HERE and can speak up and does so!!
That is why he is calling for someone to overlook LE if he didnt file a complaint who else would have. He is the only person that is taking the evidence he has to higher ups to investigate the police. He is getting his information to the right people he doesnt need to tell us his story. That would make it tabloid, the way he is approaching it makes me believe he is doing it for the right reasons. Cobra brought this story to him he didnt go looking for it.
Been reading for ever from Sydney Australia, but i must have missed something, who is Tim H?
I am not taking up for anyone who is listening to me??? Kudos to him for taking the facts he knows and getting it to the right people. The truth will come out if he is credible. Evidently he thinks he is or he wouldnt be bold enough to go over LE’s head and file a complaint!!!!
GOOD NITE GUYS…
I know this is a silly question maybe, since I HAVE NO INTEREST IN THE th IS THE GUY EVEN IN fLORIDA OR IS HE LIKE CHEETO GUY AND REPORTING FROM ANOTHER STATE? JMO
Someone that is challenging LE in the Haleigh Cummings case AussieGirl!
Cobra… Cobra… Cobra!! Give me a break… sorry, but the man is NOT ALL THAT AND A BAG OF CHIPS!! Why is someone always looping back to him? Why… why… why??
There is really nothing to debate about what Tim H has filed. He has filed his info with LE much higher than PCSO. What they received as factual evidence is all that matters. Not until this case is solved will any of us know the value of his evidence. So at this point there is really nothing to discuss IMO. This is just a waste of time.
oNE OF HIS MANY MISTAKES GETTING th INVOLVED IN MY OPINION.
If you really been on his site and seen how he came involved you would know Tobias that he is not from Florida and Cobra brought this story to him because he was told he was a credible reporter and he didnt know what to do with the information that he had and told him his story then got mad because this reporter got so involved he wanted to call everyone out on what they had been up to and the lies they told and the extremes they went to blame this on Misty and get the kids back to Crystal.
Thanks Denise, it’s hard to keep up with the time difference etc. By the time I log on, everyone’s leaving. I’ll head back to the top and try to catch up.
mY QUESTION IS WHY ARE YOU HERE AND NOT ON HIS SITE UNLESS YOU ARE HERE TO RECRUIT PEOPLE TO GO TO HIS SITE? JMO
Treece… yes it is!!!
I’m going to YouTube and watch a movie/show!!!
I mean the MAN said he wanted out and wished he’d never gotten involved… give him a part of it… STOP DISCUSSING HIM!!
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Tobias why are you so mad dont you want answers to EVERTYHIMG?? Maybe I am just too nosy and too detailed I want any info I can get and then I will put the pieces together, I want to know all info instead of just what LE wants to tell. they have told nothing so far.
Tobias… don’t bite!!
In ThAT CASE tREECE then nothing is worth debating because we dont know what PCSO considers facts.If u disagree with healthy debating dont join in on this one about tim
tobias said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 8:39 pm
mY QUESTION IS WHY ARE YOU HERE AND NOT ON HIS SITE UNLESS YOU ARE HERE TO RECRUIT PEOPLE TO GO TO HIS SITE? JMO
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tobias, TH has no forum for her to be recruiting to – she is not promoting anything –
she is defending her opinion that got attacked 20-30 post ago. JMO Treece
For your information I did not bring his name up and furthermore where I choose to blog is none of your business if you dont like what I have to say dont read it. I will state my opinion and debate you all day long but when I ask questions you cant answer to pout and want to stop playing. We can ALL give our views and we ALL will thats why we are here!
I am here to find out what happened to Haleigh to answer your question!
Because its an ongoing investigation. They dont have to tell anything about this case.
If they did and it jeoprodized the investigation then they are in trouble. Let LE, fDLE and the FBI do their jobs. We will just have to wait. And out of three investigative dept. I doubt if LE could get away with corruption. jmo
Denise said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 8:44 pm
I am here to find out what happened to Haleigh to answer your question!
Great answer Denise, that is why I am here too, and wish more people were looking for truth.
They can defend theirself against false accusations that they have not done so far. And we dont know how much of a part FBI and FDLE has played so I am not buying that. But when they show their evidence or if they show their evidence at that point I will take that info and put it with the rest of the pieces. Thats the way I work it.
Denise, have you investigated the claims further. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but are you trying to really take a look for yourself? I have done it, it’s compelling but doesn’t explain why FDLE & FBI are going along? Are they just not getting all info? How is that when these same witnesses are forwarding their accounts to ALL LE? Have you talked to some of these witnesses or tried to? There is more going on then just the TH site shows. THe biggest obstacle to me is the other LE blindly going along….
Just saying its an ongoing investigation and Le will not release information or evidence so dont hold your breath. And trust me I feel they are doing a fine job with the rocks and jello heads they are dealing with . And you can file anything you like but the law is the law. jmo
Cathy… did you ever find the info on the possible back-door laundry drop-off?
What info do you have that I dont HollysGMom??? I only know what I have researched and that has been alot but Im sure Ive not seen everything. If you know something to discredit him or add to the story I would love to hear.
Ok Tobias keep the faith!!
I don’t care how they would get Putnam involved, that sometimes happens…it’s the FDLE & FBI I can’t reconsile as being either:
A) Stupid enough to not figure it out by now
or
B) Going along with the cover-up
So please, what’s the theory on this…I really want to discuss it…
Sorry,phone and had to write an email!
I can’t find it Adams,looked everywhere but i know I read it somewhere! I will keep looking!
No biggie Cathy, just wondered.
HGM, My point exactly big brother watches big brother. In this case if one is dirty they would all look bad so trust me I dont think one is going along with anyone elses corruption. Just another side show . jmo
I would just think that if I was the investigator over the case and it has been a year and I havent really given the public any answers to a high profile case then I would at least want them to know that it was rumors and no facts to it. They have not said a word about it and if you bring it up on Art Harris website he will not even post it. Why??? If someone lies on me I want to confront them. That is just the person I am and would feel like everyone is like that. But this LE has not said anything. Tim H. has a website challenging LE to answer his questions and they will not. I am not saying they have to but shouldnt they say something?? I respect my higher ups but also expect alot out of them and this LE has showed me no faith in them or respect at this point. jmo
I’m saying I have talked to Gunny’s owner more than once and there was more going on that day…by her account. Don’t want to reveal the details .
THere are completed family trees from both sides of the family, possible links back to Sheffields via relation to people living in sitings areas,
Complete records of MG, JS, and others that might suggest a prior knowledge of how to do this and prior ability to hide a grow romm, reputadely underground…..
Has anyone had a chance to look into the satellite image thing?? I haven’t yet… been distracted most of the day,
I am floored by the statement by Tommy Croslin that the Police told him “even if they had to set Misty up plant stuff on her they were going to lock her up, put her away. Canadians the snow birds with teenage grandchildren. All schools in Canada that send the High School students to trips to Orlando, need to be informed. An informational page or site has to get out to Canadians. I will speak with others and see what can be arranged. We can’t let our kids go to that state the cops if they get something in their heads a kid is set up before he/she leaves the country and put in for life maybe death.
What is wrong with this attorney General? It seems even he/she does not give a damn what measures cops take in that state. Why would Putnam LE make such a heinous choice to be that type of person in this world. IMHO it is them that should be locked up.
Maybe FBI was overseeing but was only doing the jobs PCSO couldnt do. The investigators are the main ones and if they did not have to report everything to FBI then maybe they didnt really know what was going on. Tim H. is naming names in PCSO and these people should just say no I never did that or said that.
Now, if we started at the sightings locations we might be able to find connections back to them… but someone has got to look.
Denise said,in March 1st, 2010 at 8:32 pm I am not taking up for anyone who is listening to me??? Kudos to him for taking the facts he knows and getting it to the right people. The truth will come out if he is credible. Evidently he thinks he is or he wouldnt be bold enough to go over LE’s head and file a complaint!!!!
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Kudos to you Denise for standing up for everything you beleive in. I am standing with you.
I will if you help direct me to where I need to go but if you give me a starting point I will definitely try but it will have to be tomorrow. getting late and my hubby is sick of me on this computer.
Thank you AnneInTn……Goodnite everyone!!
treece said,in March 1st, 2010 at 8:46 pm Denise said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 8:44 pm
I am here to find out what happened to Haleigh to answer your question!
Great answer Denise, that is why I am here too, and wish more people were looking for truth.
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Me to girls.
Me 3 girls!
I thought we all were! Over and out.
Then let’s get on it….stop footin around and really try to make a difference! If you’re all convinced, let’s see where it goes!
Ok we need a list of SHeffield relatives and sightings. I can use Google Earth once I’m at work to make a map of sightings and then we can look around in those areas for anyone who might match up….
Cathyjo, looks like we’ll be burning up your program tonight! Let’s not post any personal info here, maybe just that we’ve found something of interest.
treece said,in March 1st, 2010 at 5:42 pm JB, I say stop licking your wounds and heal up. I think you were so sweet with your apologies and looks like all your buddies have forgiven you. We have all missed it a time or two and I am sure we all will again. It’s ok. Now we all seem to be in agreement, which is so rare here. Line up all up!!!! Let’s see who passes!!!! It is past time for some action and results on this case. JMO
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I totally agree.
Re Marie, I must say these new bloggers poking up today here, are reminding me a lot of the KP/Marie crew of bloggers from a few months back, which has me incredibly suspicious as to why they are “working” again. Perhaps there is something to this holiday?? Otherwise, why are so many new people on here posting about it, how Crystal isn’t in rehab etc?
I must say though, that I think it’s a bit much that 9 months ago she was asking for donations to pay her family’s bills, and now has the cash to take a holiday. Personally, I’d like to think that if I had spare cash in her position, I’d be printing flyers with it, and taking road trips trying to get her pic out there. And I haven’t forgotten how Marie, Crystal and others had an all expense paid trip to Texas for the concert, that made no money for Haleigh after all their holidays were paid for. What is it about these families (the Anthony’s included) that makes them think that losing a child entitles them to up their lifestyles??? In any event, perhaps Marie’s vacation is totally innocent, and bought for her by someone else, in which case, I don’t really have a problem with it.
Somebody kept posting here to follow the money…what money? This “caper” would be very very exspensive, so how did they pull it off? Does anyone think she may have been taken by an organization? I’ve heard of them and taking kids because they believed the mom’s stories of abuse.
cent, don’t be over & out, come on in, join the party!!! I’m popping the pop corn, you bring the chips.
It seems to me that if this theory is true there is at least whomever Has Haleigh now is involved but maybe 3 or 4 sets of people in between. SO who are they and can we find them?
All doctors’ clinics, hospitals, ER facilities, etc., nationwide, should be contacted to provide information to the FBI when they treat a girl Haleigh’s age with Turner Syndrome. One might think this is a given but there are regions in this country that do not get as much coverage of stories not local to the region. The story might be reported initially but then not followed up on as consistently as it is closer to the scene.
I’m not saying I agree Haleigh is hidden somewhere but since she did not just vanish into thin air, no stone should be left unturned. Those who believe so fervently in this theory should be sending flyers on a regular basis to said medical professionals/facilities.
It can’t hurt. It might help.
I think we are all tired and desperate for answers and results. This article left us hanging on what Marie took on vacation. Does anyone know what she took or where she went??
Get Haleigh, I’m sure there will be more than enough evidence after she’s home to build a case or cases.
From what Iread above its all rumour even the vacation. No proof positive she even went anywhere. Simon even said he heard it second or third hand and he hasnt come back with any new info so more than likely it was started by some troll. jmo
Yea, why the delay? Surely they don’t think they’ll hurt her, she’s been kept safe all this time…..so why not just go to her?
Anne, I’m bringing the popcorn, can you bring the drinks?
So why not reveal that the have rescued her? Is this why MG is on “vacate”? Has she been taken for questioning?
Treece… I am back and forth watching a movie/youtube… Anyways, it gets to the point where there really is no debating… Just someone wanting to be RIGHT and angry because they can NOT force it upon “us” meaning the bloggers here. It’s the way I see it… and I think it’s b.s!!!
By some of my posts, it may seem as though I don’t, but I DO respect everyone’s thoughts/theories… and their RIGHT to question Authority! I encourage it… hell, I’ve always gone against the “grain”… it’s natural for me!! But, I can also see distraction… just saying!!
Treece…me too….why keep it silent? To get all the culprits, they should have plenty of evidence by now and we could watch all of the roll on eachother via jail tapes!!!
HollysGmom said,in March 1st, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Use it all you want Holly’s.I toldya too,I don’t use it..lol!
cathartic said,in March 1st, 2010 at 9:31 pm
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Now thats an idea Cath!
Beautiful…do us a NG commentary on todays events….we ned a good laugh about now.
My 9:46 was for Treece’s 9:19
I would swear that’s the first place FBI started…hospitals and Drs for Turner’s Patients…
This happens everytime…I try to rally troops to help ferret out information and it gets shut down by “it’s already done”. SO there’s nothing to do but drink Cent’s soda’s, eat Treece’s popcorn, and talk about what ever it was that MG took on vation…LOL!
I’ve got honey roasted peanuts…have some!
AnneInTn said,in March 1st, 2010 at 9:26 pm HollysGmom, FBI knows and they have already found them…G’Night all.
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What did I miss???
HGM, pLEASE READ sIMONSpost above where he states it was from phone calls and the info was second or third hand. Very unreliable info in my opinion as to whether she even went on vacation or took anything with her. Quite possibly just rumours . He even says 2nd or 3rd hand. jmo
Adams,I still can’t find it..keep looking tho!
Oh Hey,did yall see the photos of satsuma link i posted this morning in the radio blog we were on last night?
LoL Adams!
Ive seen them before Cathy. Memaws sure is a dive. Thought it would be a little nicer but hey the food may be good. jmo
Thanks Beautiful!!! That was great! I needed it too!
LOL thanks, I love honey roasted peanuts.
Yea, reminds me of Crestview…..LOL!
BACent – you have me really laughing – my hubby thinks I’m nuts laughing out loud at my blog buddies.
Beer NUTS are the best.
Tobias,it really is.lol
Re-reading Adams 9:58 post….Still laughing!…Granny Panites…
me too, granny panties!!! lol
Me too Treece…Just this morning he was going “What? What’s so funny” The night before he’s loike “So, what cha doin?” I lok at him and smile and say “Do you have to ask?” LMAO….
HGM, I am still having bad dreams about Dunn Creek bridge, cant seem to shake the creepy feelings about it.jmo Hope I sleep beter tonight. jmo
In one of the videos on NG tonight, someone (maybe Hank Sr.) mentioned that Misty or Tommy or someone had told him something about “that Larry guy.” Please, can anyone tell me who “that Larry guy” is?
Cashews are da bestens…lol
Where is AnneIn… it’s unlike her to do that.
No CathyJo I like cinnamon sugar pecans bestest.
Ha… I’m eating cashews right now… and sipping my Coke.
Gimme them now Adams, (((BombShell))
Adam’s eats better than I do!
I didn’t watch the blond bombshell tonight. I just pretended to be her!!!
Let’s all do a shout out for AnneInTn.
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ANNEINTN COME OVER HERE AND PLAY WITH US. BRING THE DRINKS!! WE’VE GOT THE POPCORN AND ALL KINDS OF NUTS. LOL
I’d say a neighbor or someone on the periphial since we aren’t immediately familiar with him.
All kinds of nuts….LMAO…
Let me tell you something Cathy… I found 3, count ’em.. 3 nuggets in my car!!! Unlike CA and MC… dining on potted meats, deer jerky, and expensive bottled water!!
NUTS AND A MONKEY OR TWO PLAYING NG
We’re the BNNs – The Blogger News Nuts….LOL!
HollysGmom said,in March 1st, 2010 at 10:13 pm I’d say a neighbor or someone on the periphial since we aren’t immediately familiar with him.
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There’s a Larry guy in south Putnam County (i.e. near Satsuma) who’s on the local predator list and has a job that might put him in people’s homes. No idea if it’s important.
So do we know what Marie took on vacation??
LOL!!!3 nuggets…did she say she ate them? (NG?) LMAO
What about it AH?? And you’d better give me the answer I wanna hear!Don’t tell me they aren’t eating!
BNNuts lol
Hey, lets look into it, couldn’t hurt, right? What kind of job? Must be a repair man….something like that…installer of cabinets, appliences, something like that?
treece said,in March 1st, 2010 at 10:18 pm BNNuts lol
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LoL Certified Nuts too!
Thug, I think our giggle boxes are upside down we can’t think serious right now – maybe someone will think, look and answer a little later.
Ya Know IF all bloggers would take the focus off Ron and Misty and focus on Griffs/ Sheffields we might get some answers.Focus has been on Ron and Misty a year.And all we want is ALL the truths.
Any ties to the “players”….?
HollysGmom said,in March 1st, 2010 at 10:19 pm Hey, lets look into it, couldn’t hurt, right? What kind of job? Must be a repair man….something like that…installer of cabinets, appliences, something like that?
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Handyman. What does looking into it entail? (pretty new to this)
AnneIn is back… is my 10:22 correct?
Glory be to God Ann,Thats what you’d think they’d do! A freakin yr!
Larry is the guy that Hank Sr told Tim Miller about. He has a daughter that knows HaLeigh & he said his daughter saw HaLeigh. Ron said something like “yea right, that and $35,000 will get me my daughter”. I guess the reward money.
Ohhh Ty Adams,i didn’t see that part,i was lookin for the article!
Lori said,in March 1st, 2010 at 10:24 pm Larry is the guy that Hank Sr told Tim Miller about. He has a daughter that knows HaLeigh & he said his daughter saw HaLeigh. Ron said something like “yea right, that and $35,000 will get me my daughter”. I guess the reward money.
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Lori, whats this Larrys last name if you know. How olds his daughtner? TY
So Larry is from Satsuma….his daughter attends school with Haleigh? or maybe just knows her…do we know how? Is this the same guy? The handyman?
Ok,something i am missing here,found? Whatchall talkin about?? I scrolled and don’t see it,clue me in whilst i still got 3 twigs of hair left!
Is there any other information on this then TM’s statements?
That’s all I know about him. From Tim Miller’s interveiw with TJ and then Ron’s lawyer was on Nancy Grace and explained who Larry was IIRC.
Two topics at once…Larry mentioned by Jr & Sr and his daughter who said she saw Haleigh, came out in TM statements about $35,000
ANd Focusing on SHeffields to find the truth even IF FBI have already located Haleigh and why there would be delays in relaseing that info to family members, press, and general public.
Can you yea or nae this? Something was posted elsewhere.. that LE already knew the truth and that it was not what it seemed, that LE had the the fake ransom note. (paraphrasing)
I’m not even syaing it isn’t possible, just trying to understand why it would still be a secret….(FBI)
AnneInTn said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Ya Know IF all bloggers would take the focus off Ron and Misty and focus on Griffs/ Sheffields we might get some answers.Focus has been on Ron and Misty a year.And all we want is ALL the truths.
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AnneInTn, I agree this investigation has been so out of balance. To be coming into this every single family member and all close friends should have been suspects and investigated totally. If Haleigh were my granddaughter I would have wanted everyone checked out from the president to the pope until they found her. It’s not a popularity contest here it is the life of an innocent little girl. Her rights should have been above everyone else.
amen
True Treece… I would have demanded everyone be looked at… even that women that tackled the Pope!!
t8rtot, where did you come from? did you bring hamburgers to our party?
The point is though, if FBI already has figured it out and know where Haleigh is, why do we need to focus on them more? There will be tons of focus when it all is made public, be sure of it….
A lot of the “focus” on ROn & Misty was caused by Ron & Misty….they got engaged, they got married, they spereated/divorced, one made statements to LE that made them suspicious, they got caught buying & selling perscription drugs, Misty had the wild weekend….so how is any of that anyone else’s fault that it was made public?
Seriously… when it comes to my SON’s saftey… NO feelings are spared… and I mean that… ask the little kid, that shoved him in the chest while he was walking down the hall, minding his own business.. well, the kid did not notice me.. behind my son!!
lets not forget family brawls, brother/brother-in-law arrests & issues, Father/Father-in-law arrests & issues, Mother/Mother-in-law arrests & issues….. They did all of those things.
I agree that everyone should be investigated, then & now…I just am not sure that LE has turned such a blind eye or would do so. If not in PSCO then FDLE & FBI….
Lori said,in March 1st, 2010 at 10:24 pm Larry is the guy that Hank Sr told Tim Miller about. He has a daughter that knows HaLeigh & he said his daughter saw HaLeigh. Ron said something like “yea right, that and $35,000 will get me my daughter”. I guess the reward money.
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Ahh! Thanks for the info!
Maybe “items” from Misty’s wild, angry, sex & drug driven weekend… are in the “suitcase”!
Gotta jet for a while…Be Back arounf Midnight (central)
Party on….I’ll bring pizza when I come back….any special toppings? LOL!
WHAT IF IT’S THE BLANKET!?!
LOL! Adams….
OMG!
Cathy…. is your OMG for the Blanket?
BAcent, I have not doubt that the boy that shoved your son remembers that mistake!! lol
Hopefully he even learned something from it.
Treece… I think… 11 yrs later… he is behaving as he should!!
trippin’?
Yes,sorry Adams..whewwww
t8rtot said,
in March 1st, 2010 at 10:49 pm
trippin’?
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Who me? Yes… I probably am… in fact more than likely I am!!
cent, how old is your son, I have forgotten?
OMG,would mg be going to pick her up?
Treece… he’ll be 18 in 6 months!! LOL… I think!!
Wow Adams!
My daughter will be 31 on the 12th!
I cant believe that someone would think that Marie going on vacation has something to do with HaLeigh, My God, the woman does have family and friends and she deserves to get away once in a while, Do you really think that if she knew where HaLeigh was she would decide to go to her with a active investigation going on. Yea Right,This is so unbelievable that I cant even believe that we are talking about it. Oh and the so called HaLeigh advocate is NOT and advocate, just a big mouth that wanted to talk but didnt wanna get caught in her lies, what a mess,We need news on HaLeigh, not speculation every time someone goes to walmart shopping or out of town for some R&R. Misty knows where HaLeigh is, and she went out of town, OMG she might have went to see her and we didnt hear about it. Whatever, on with the investigation.
Yes… that’s right he will be!! I always have to do that “my age” at his birth thingy.
Why Can’t you believe that? These people have done some weird things!
Ofcourse some will be skeptical!
I for the record… do not believe that MG went to see HaLeigh.
Cathy… she’s a Pisces!! I love them… I am one!!
LoL Adams,I was 35 twice,how i didn’t know i’ll never know,lol thought I was 35 then my next birfday i found out I was 35!
Cathy.. I meant your daughter!! Not Marie… I don’t know what she is!!
Unreal Actually,I guess sometimes we all think about what c/g did and though its not fair we wonder!
aw wow Adams,I’m an ole goat! No wonder i was born in a barn,lol
unreal, that is a good name for you. I for the record…. do not give a crap where MG goes.
yes.. I use to calculate my age in correlation to my sisters… yet, I’m still asking how old I am. I guess age has never been that important to me… I don’t know!!
OH,LOL I know you meant my daughter Ota Jo!
LoL@Treece!
My husbands mama didn’t have a clue of her age!
Huh,who,what where when why and how.lol heck if i know Adams….LoL
Cathy…. yep… let’s skip that one.. LOL
Sorry Adams,blonde moment,uhh but I’m not a real blonde so i shouldn’t really be stupid!
BA @ aa PM: … I don’t know what she is!!
LMAO !
I bet there was emphasis on WHAT.
@ 11 PM
I seen a pic of Ma Barker you’d like Adams….God she looked mean! LoL
Cathartic… Yes, I don’t know WHAT!! I suspect she may be a religious snake-handler cult member!! I don’t know if that’s slander or the other thingy… but I suspect!!
BA, remember…it’s only slander if it damages one’s good name or reputation in their community.
you girls have lost me – who is ma barker?
who is religious snake handler?
Cathy @11:10 … not the one with her sitting on that towel… in that recliner with her leg crossed, and toes spread apart!!! (((Gulp))) I am terrified of other people’s feet/toes… no fooling!!
lOl treece,ma barker is Gsykes
Thanks.. Cathartic!
Treece… well, Ma Barker is GGM!! Not nice I know… just seem so fittin!!
cmon BA I couldn’t eat my lunch because of the skid marks, now I am trying to eat dinner and I get a visual of Ma Barker with her toes spread apart in a photo??? I’m gonna lose a lot of weight if I stick around here.
(I know it’s late for dinner but I live on a weird schedule.)
Treece… in a vid MG… reminded me of a Snake-Handler
No,at a vigil and oman the face she gave somebody…lol but maybe they deserved it but it made me think of you! LoL
Sorry Cathartic.!!
Cathy which vigil ?
You know a lot can be learned from facial expressions!
I believe the snake one.LoL But its a pic,not a video!
The one I saw was the vigil and it was a vid. She looked and sounded positively scary.
Yea I know Adams, like get around and set down somewhere! LoL She is very stern lookin’
I’m not sure which vigil it was, a year ago or the most recent one.
Has anyone seen GGM or MG smile when they recall pleasant memories of HaLeigh? I saw it with TN, never with anyone else!! But I could be wrong… please correct me!
I think maybe she wanted to light a wick,just not on a candle!
girls, girls, I think I have seen that video lol
OH sorry, I was talking about the MG vid. You’re probably still talking about Ma B.
Sorry for the confusion.
Catharic… you’re fine…. we are speaking of both!!! Treece which did you see?
Cath,i would not cross that woman! Kinda reminds ya of Throw momma from the train,only with her it’d be under the train!
Adams,I have honestly thought about that!!
Somebody put the toe/recliner chair/towel pic in a remix on you tube!!!
I agree that Teresa Neves shows pure love when she smiles and talks about Haleigh.
I think of myself if I had to do TV interviews and stuff I would be so nervous I wouldn’t come across as my self.
I had to testify in a child custody battle one time. I had nothing to hide and I 100% believed in who I was testifying for. But being in court in front of a jury with the pressure of a lawyer cross examining me I was so nervous I could hardly breath. So I give f these people a little slack just from the nerves of being on camera.
My husband’s mama,the one who didn’t know her age,God you talk about mean and hateful,never had a good word to say,she was like 7’6….long white hair,size 13 in a shoe!
Yeah Cathy she is a scary one. I can’t imagine being a kid and having that face comin’ at me.
And I must admit it isn’t like me to be saying these things. I sit here and think them usually, but don’t voice it. But hey, she put herself out there on video doing what she was doing. And the kids are always on my mind here.
Cathy @11:29… the smiling? I trip off of that. Even when things are not going right/unpleasant times… you hang on to the good moments and you can’t help yourself!!
Lord yes Treece,you can tell Haleigh was around her the most,she always smiled!!
Like she said Haleigh did!
Treece, you are right about that. It is not really fair to judge someone on how they act during an impromptu interview that’s all of 30 seconds in length. The vigil video is different though. It was planned, not impromptu.
Exactly Cath,when they deserve it they just do,My husbands mama….when she got mad at the grandkids..she’d holler,hey come hurr i got sum candy furyins,grab an arm and go to whackin,mean as hello!
I always wondered why the hello they liked candy that well,if thats candy I don’t want it!
You know, I do tend to laugh at certain bits, and I have voiced a lot of negs when it comes to them… it ain’t right but, they give me the creeps… all of them!!!
Treece, I understand nervousness… I am NOT a public speaker… at all… I am unbelievably shy!! But, I don’t see nerves being GGM’s/MG’s issue!!
Exactly Adams,!!!!Precious moments!
Well, whatever ends up being the answer for Haleigh, I won’t be shocked. Sad, or happy, or relieved…but not likely shocked. This case has taken so many twists and turns and with the families doing all they’ve been doing, or not doing in some cases, no one’s behavior on either side shocks me anymore.
Cathy… size 13!!!
Well,this is how i see that Adams,we are all here b/c of Haleigh,we care alot or wouldn’t be here,and if someone kids around and we laugh,whats wrong with it,we are normal i reckon,wellll i know yall are.lol but if its funny it just is!Anybody should see we didn’t mean bad by it!
cent, ggm doesn’t bother me but MG wigs me out sometimes.
13 triple EW
MG is the twin to my monster n law!
I bet if we really tried we could find at least one good thing about each one of them.
Though I might need 8 hours sleep before I could make my brain work that hard.
Me either Cath,at this point,aliens could crawl outta their necks and it wouldn’t phase me!
True… Cathy, no one is immune to my sense of humor… not even my own family and above all… I’m not immune to it!!
We’d have to cut them into Cath,cause i know if they do,its buried deep!imo
BA, when I met my soul mate, I knew right away. Because he understood my sense of humor. No one else ever got it.
Exactly Adams,I kid over anything,i laugh at innapropriate times and can’t stop for an hour sometimes but its just me! Can’t help it!
Mine too Cath!!
I think there is good in most folks… this is a azz backwards… but I do see them all “as thick as thieves”… so that’s my good thing about them!! They’ve got the balls to stand by one another… no matter how I feel about them or how wrong I think they are!!
When my husband was living Cath,OMG sometimes we’d be in bed and we’d be sound asleep,all of a sudden i would start cackling and couldn’t stop and the harder i tried to the worse it got!then he’d start!
Thats so true Adams,My family comes before anything!
Cathy… not everyone would get the humor… Now this is WAY off topic… A few years ago, one of my best friends died unexpectedly, I was on the phone with the nurse and I heard in the background. At her funeral… I was upset as you would be… and then I looked up and saw the priest walking down the isle.. and I lost it… he had this Donald Trump comb over, blowing in the breeze… everyone panicked thinking I was hysterically crying… but I was LMAO… thinking that if she was there she would be talking major smack over his hair!
I’m LMAO right now!!!! Picturing it!!
LMAO TOOOOO FUNNY HERE TONITE!!!!!!!!!
ROFLMSAO!Adams!
Omg,I have been whipped over it growing up!alot!I didn’t really understand it i guess but i was adopted and nobody else in the family was that way,so i guess they didn’t understand me!
Hi AnneIn!!
Hi cent and cathy…you all are cracking me up.
See you all tomorrow…have a very bad headache. G’Night Pray for Haleigh.
OMG,OFF TOPIC:
But my bmum was just like me and we were at my uncle Tafts funeral…we were way up on a steep hill,straight up i’m talkin,well his wife was like 82 i guess then and our neighbors sons were holding her arms and helping her down the hill,then she said ok i got boys….they let go and she rolled plumb to the dang bottom of that ole muddy hill and landed on a rock and OMG I couldn’t help nor could Linda Lou (bmum)but we both omg had to rush to her too and omg i saw red,thought blood gushing and Lord i rolled her over and it was huge red earrings and hunny,omg we had to sit down and finish laughing while everybody glared at us,finally my husband came over,he said Cathy go home now,cause he knew I’d never stop!
Okay now all kinds of stuff is crawling through this mind of mine! Just thinking about what we wouldn’t/would do for the protection of our children!!!
I had a flash of me hitting my son’s bio-father in the back of the head with a pickle!!
I should be ashamed/ and not say this… but somehow I don’t know which was worst… the pickle or the vase… the pickle seems to win!!
Gnite Ann,sweet dreams!
Cathy… my side is hurting!!! LOL
I’d say soooooo Adams,LMAO!
Goodnight AnneIn… hope the headache goes away, soon!
LoL Lord its embrassing,if i am at an office,church,dr.court,anywhere thats serious you don’t wanna claim me,I have left appts b/c of it!
I mean Lordy,its a wonder it didn’t kill Mag,the older lady! whewwww
Okay Cathy… we must stop, I think we ran everyone off>
I totally… understand!!!!
Nope, I’m still here.
Hello Cathartic, what cha doing?
laughin my a$$ off
You two are certifiable.
I done got started,i gotta tell ya,my brother n law got drunker than a dog one night and we were helping him off the porch,you know these gas tanks that lay outside down on the ground?
Well,he flipped and fell backwards and hit his head on the tank and the 2nd he did it he broke with the awfullest wind you ever heard,I lost it then,i though that gas went thru his entire body!
I done got started,i gotta tell ya,my brother n law got drunker than a dog one night and we were helping him off the porch,you know these gas tanks that lay outside down on the ground?
Well,he flipped and fell backwards and hit his head on the tank and the 2nd he did it he broke with the awfullest wind you ever heard,I lost it then,i though that gas went thru his entire body!
omg,i quit!
See,Cath and Ann thinks its funny,shoot we have all been strained,i guess its time to laugh!
you just have to laugh it off sometimes
figures that 1 posted twice!yikes
Exactly! We have all been grouchy with each other and heck we needed a gooden’
I know some will not appreciate these posts… but I sure do!! And if you object… just quietly pm Jan and ask her to remove them!!
I was on a bus once and the driver pointed out something outside that was amusing. Everyone laughed, including me, only I couldn’t stop. I tried, but I just couldn’t stop! Each time I thought I had it under control I looked up to see the driver looking at me in his mirror. And I started laughing again. I finally managed to get control of it, but when I got off the bus the driver and I glanced at each other and we both cracked up. It was just one of those things, no explanation for it.
Sometimes you just get till you know one another so well and its hard not to laff like we would if we were in one anothers homes,lol
Actually… scratch my 12:19 post… Jan will delete what she wants!!
Cathartic… yes, no explanation… sometimes it happens and there is nothing you can do… especially when you do TRY… it seems to make it worst!
**worse
LMSAO@Cath!!!!!!!!! Its hard not too!!!!
i WISH WE’D GET SOME NEWS!!
Well gals, what the driver pointed out that was so amusing would have you rolling on the floor. Unfortunately I can’t post that here.
Items mg took with her,I just noticed that at the top!
now that aint fair Cath..lol
I will get off the side splitting laughter after I say this!!
When it’s more than you… deliriously laughing…. it’s torture… a good friend I’ll call Smithy… he is just as bad… us together… we have been literally on the floor holding our sides in pain!!
Not to make lite… he has been diagnosed with early stages of Alzheimer’s… and sometimes he’s in better condition than I am… except for when his bike gets “stolen” and he ends up at the police dept… for trying to fight young “punks” as he calls them!!
have yall seen mg criminal history?
awwwwwwww,lol
I’ve heard of the weed thing!!!
I’d say thats alot more than wed possession!
SHEFFIELD, NANCY M (12/7/1965)
Charges
ISSUE WORTHLESS CHECK UNDER 150 DOLLARS
Court Events
Date Event Judge Location
04/15/1992 ARRAIGNMENT D L GRIFFIS BAKER CO COURTHOUSE
Progress Dockets
Date Description
11/07/2005 ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER CLOSING CRIMINAL CASE
03/23/1992 ARRAIGNMENT SET FOR 041592 001
01/24/1992 CASE OPENED – SWORN COMPLAINT
http://208.75.175.18/ovationweb/search.aspx
I meant the underground thing… is that what you’re talking about?
Yup Cathy, I’ve seen it. These characters are all just a bunch of losers and they are so by choice, and they should not have children around them. Sorry, I just feel for all the kids involved.
Understood Cathartic!!
Thats all i am gonna post!LoL
I don’t understand why they don’t know who was at the back door. Would they not of used the fact that the door was rarely used to their benefit, one would think so. By all accounts family members agreed on one thing the back door was rarely used and was not the door that people came to when they came over, the door was only used by Ronald or Misty to take out garbage. LE all over the world search for live beings using dogs to follow a scent. Would it not of been feasible to get a scent on everyone known to the family and particularly those who went there and test to see if the dogs went to the back porch with following the scent. It wouldn’t stand up in court but if someones scent hit on that ramp and to the back door that had never been there they would have some big explaining to do. They at least would of done it with who was there the day Haleigh went missing so that tells me none of them came up. None the less if they are so adament in their claim Tommy and Misty had somehing to do with it well then find her. There is only one vehicle with strange activity that night, the van. The Police took it right away the next morning obviously they know how much gas was in it when they took it. Find out what was in it, do the math of what was burned and do the math of how far that vehicle could go on that amount of gas and triple check the area. Go over and over it again, in order for their theory to be correct then that child has to be with in that area, so go find her. SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH Obviously the tactic their using is not working, time to move on.
Hey girls!!! LMAO…YOu guys are on one….
I have to say I’m the same way…the laughing thing….the worst is when it happens just as my hubby is tryin to get romanitc….LOL! He gets so offended even with me gasping for air and squeeking through raggfed gasps “It’s not you, honey….I can’t stop”….
I’m signing off for the evening now. I’m tired and frustrated at what seems like no progress toward finding little Haleigh. I will get up in the morning with renewed hope, once again. Everyone have a good night.
Giggle Box….used to be my childhood nic…LOL!
Nite Cathartic….sorry to so you go…see you sometime tomorrow…
cathartic said,in March 1st, 2010 at 11:35 pm Treece, you are right about that. It is not really fair to judge someone on how they act during an impromptu interview that’s all of 30 seconds in length. The vigil video is different though. It was planned, not impromptu.
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I’m confused by the nicknames. Are we talking about MG in a vigil video, or someone else? TIA
Hey HollyG… Goodnight Cathartic!!!
DustyRose…you may be onto something there….We can estimate how much gas a van of that yr, make, & model holds and MPG versus the area and deduce the maxium mileage able to travel on that amount. I’m guessing the tank wouldn’t be full, most people ride somewhere arounf 1/2 or lower, especially a working family with only 1 “parent” working. SO we could start with a full tank and work backwards.
Me;…GGMA & MG….had been discussed.
treece said,in March 1st, 2010 at 11:43 pm cent, ggm doesn’t bother me but MG wigs me out sometimes.
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ITA. As suspicious as I am of Tommy etc, and I still haven’t ruled out an SO, MG has creeped me out from the beginning, and I won’t be the least bit surprised if we hear she was behind this. I’m glad she closed her twitter…her tweets were disturbing…like she was talking in tongues or something.
Also re MG,
1. We know she gave Chad a false alibi….was that deliberate, and if yes, why would she do that?
2. We know she was a big force in Haleighbug, which was asking money to support the family (not look for Haleigh) in super duper record time. I can’t imagine any other family in history has set up a foundation as quickly as she did.
3. She has never even come close to crying or looking sad….she and Crystal seemed far more interested in trashing Ron than finding Haleigh, to the point of making up stories to be put out there on the internet, when her energies clearly should have been elsewhere.
4. She got Dominic Casey involved at the start…why him of all people??????
5. She appears to have lied to LE (according to KP’s reply) about who owned the crack and pipes at the house. That took place during their property being searched for Haleigh, so it appears she has lied to LE perhaps twice (1st time re Chad’s alibi) during the course of the investigation. What else might she be lying about?
And I could go on and on.
Along those lines yes, one would have to know the amount of gas that was in the vehicle prior to it moving that night and then after, which LE already knows that part. Find out how much that van uses MPG compare that to the amount of gas used and that is the area, Search North, South, East, West, over and over with in that distance. What is only an eight of a tank was used that would narrow it down a lot. The LE used dogs to scent for live beings and searched neighbours homes and everyone affiliated with this family correct? Searched beds, closets, totes and anything like that right. One would hope they have learned from the Lundsford case. It’s not unusual for a search not to produce anything first time, IMHO they need to go back to searching.
DustyRose…it seemed to me they cleared the local RSOs far too quickly. I do wonder if they are making the same mistakes here as they did in Jessica’s case. In Jessica’s case, LE named her grandfather the #1 suspect and announced to the public that he had failed his lie detector test. Very sad. Those tests are so unreliable. I hope they have looked well beyond Misty in this case, but not confident they have.
And in Jaycee’s case, LE had it soooo wrong. They had a description of the car she was taken in, and that car was in a driveway not far from where she was taken. But, LE considered her stepfather their #1 suspect, and don’t appear to have followed up the info that he gave them re the vehicle. Are LE making similar mistakes here? It seems so.
Okay look at little baby Gabriel Johnson’s dad he has looked all over for his baby. He got a private investigator to help him search. Why hasn’t anyone in Haleigh’s family done this for her?… If anyone watched Nancy Grace tonight they would have heard new jail house tapes . Something about Mexican’s taking Haleigh. So my question is why hasn’t any of her family went to Mexico and look for her?….
Ok….ANy idea yr and model? Might have to lok at pics to determine.
Something was said aboutthat on last week’s show? Am I remembering that? I could swear that TJ had said something about it. I thought he had said it was ridiculous…but I could be wrong….I’m willing to try to follow any lead at this point…
Gotta catch up reading here to find out whats up but it’s causing a stir at other sites.
dreamfinder:
What other sites? I only get on this one and art harris.
Twitter
Can you send me a link?
ok I see what happened here, Anne wasn’t saying they know and found them as in Haleigh or the ones who have her She was refering to the fbi knows about the sightings. She has a head ache so she isn’t typing in full thoughts here.
KY Mom twitter.com
No she was responding to your earlier post:
Ok we need a list of SHeffield relatives and sightings. I can use Google Earth once I’m at work to make a map of sightings and then we can look around in those areas for anyone who might match up….
She was referring to this one
Anne was in tears over this, she doesn’t want to be misunderstood she truly didn’t mean to say FBI has found Haleigh. She may believe LE knows where she is as many bloggers do think that with statements that are out by that one guy Holmseth and she is in full suport of FBI’s help. She told me she didn’t mean it that way. She has a headache and she was short in her statement.
I like Anne, I do…and I feel badly that this thing got blown so out of proportion, but at the same time I feel like I’m now the bad guy because I was willing to try to take some action and was the one asking Anne about it. I never dreamed someone would Twitter to the WORLD that Haleigh had been found!!! Geez people! It did come across as they already found HER, didn’t it?
Sorry to Anne….I never wanted you to feel upset, hurt, or betrayed. I want to HELP!
I totally understand that I do, we’ve all done everything we can to try to get her home and some of us have set up little groups to try to get to the truth that would lead to Haleigh. We are what they call armchair detectives and that’s not a bad thing because at least we are’nt settled to just take it that nothing is happening and what is happening is kept close to the vest and we the public is left out of it so that leads us to do what ever we can do to try to help. While the police may not appreciate out tips or therys it’s only cause we are left in the dark. No answers from them is understandable but it leaves us to action plain and simple.
Anne is frustrated as any of us are with this. If we turn in pictures of girls who resemble closely to Haleigh and recieve no answer than we have to wonder and that wondering leads to private investigations and so on.
It also leaves her and others who have turned in tips that are complicated and potentionally dangerous to Haleigh if it were found out. Even police keep things close for that reason but then we’re left to being left in the dark as to the results of those tips so sometimes she may leak little things out like they know… or they have all they need… it’s because she has strong faith in her tip and think that they do have the answer but they just aren’t checking into them. Some tips can’t be checked into given the law has constitutional rights for the ones under suspicion. Even private citizens can’t just go stalking people without consequences. It’s a system against itself.
I understand…I think it’s cr*p that a person who has given a tip gets no feedback. It’s bothersome. You never know if you were right or wrong or if it even made a difference. I think one should at least be told if it is a good or bad tip. Like “sorry, it lead nowhere” or “We think it might lead somewhere” even if they can’t reveal all.
Anyway, I’ve emailed Anne with a personal apology for the part I played in tonight’s fiasco… I still want to SMACK that darned Tweeter!!! Talk about jumping the gun!!! Geesh! To whomever you are, DID you realize that in about 2.5 seconds that twitter hit CS’s computer? What if she isn’t guilty of this? Can you imagine how upsetting this was? To recieve “word” that her daughter had been found by FBI? What if she is guilty? Now she knows the FBI might be onto her! THink!!!!
Well that’s good She’ll be glad for that cause she is sorry for any misunderstandings. As far as twitter I don’t think it went too far, I tried to explain it there too and everyone is off to sleep now I think it was more like a lot of people asking was she found than that she was found. Levi Page didn’t help matters cause he gets smart mouthed and reactive to others on there and is really showing his true personality there and it’s not appreciated. He’s not just everyday Joe there, he’s a news person and what he says carries a bit farther and closer to what is taken for truth. He twittered Anne was drunk and went off on her when he was presuming to know when he knew nothing. He even used sources say in his accusation and coming from him it sounds concrete. He can not be average Joe in his statements when he runs a radio show.
Hi Dreamfinder!
I am just catching up with what apparently happened last night.
First Levi Page is NOT what I’d call a news person. I don’t care if he went to college or took an online journalism course or whatever his “supposed” credentials (if he has any), just watch what he says and how he says it. He’s a gossip IMO.
That’s it. And now we know that he’ll stoop so low as to make such a horrible accusation against a really really good person here.
Apparently Levi Page knows nothing about professionalism or even (un)common decency.
It just shows that ANYONE can get on the web and claim to be ANYTHING, parade around in what ever costume they want (“investigative reporter” costume for example) and gullible people fall for it.
Levi if you are going to be a gossip just admit it. Everyone would have more respect for you. Otherwise the only left to be is ASHAMED.
He can be an “average Joe” IF he chooses to be one!! Since I don’t do tweets, I don’t really comment on them, but how anyone can really take what went on last night and try their best to spin it into reality/fact is silly!!
HGm @ 5:00 am You said, “I think it’s cr*p that a person who has given a tip gets no feedback. It’s bothersome.”
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Well I guess we learned one of the reasons last night. Because members of the public cannot be trusted to (a) understand and (b) keep things confidential.
There are too many publicity/glory hounds out there who want their 30 seconds of fame for whatever real news or drivel they have.
LE is SMART to not reply to tipsters (IMO)! Geesh.
AnneIn… I hope you’re Okay!!!!!
I just meant that as a “tipster” if LE were to let you in on tha fact that your info was WRONG or way off… then maybe the tipster could realize not to keep pressing in the wrong direction….but I DO see your point.
Hey Gang!!
See ya in a couple of hrs!!
HGm – Not all tipsters are (and you are going to be mad at this but it’s the truth) amateur investigators. So there should be NO reason for LE to have to respond to keep them from “pressing in the wrong direction.”
I think LE would regard that more as “meddling” or possibly interfering in an investigation.
If they did respond in order to keep amateur detectives off the wrong track, then the “wrong track” might eventually be narrowed down publicly until the right direction is apparent. Obviously this is not what LE wants.
Meddling can royally louse up an investigation in more ways than one – most especially when all the info, accusations and speculations are posted on-line.
Some of it is okay. But there are certain lines that should not be crossed and when one doesn’t know where the lines are drawn that’s where the problems start.
For example, let’s say someone on the web tracked down several people on the G/S side and named them. What if they had Haleigh? IF LE had known and was watching them in order to learn Haleigh’s specific whereabouts, then that’s blown.
And if those people actually had Haleigh or knew where she was and learned that their names were posted on line as possible suspects, well then they might kill her rather than be discovered.
It is NOT LE’s job to guide amateur detectives.
It’s LE’s job to try to manage in spite of them
And IF LE is corrupt or off-base there are other ways to get that righted – without conducting an on-line investigation that tips the suspects. (IMO)
Above, some of the examples I am referring to are of “info” that “stranger bloggers” have dropped in here from time to time. Some claiming to be psychic and some not. Names, locations etc. If they REALLY thought that, why put it in a blog? Why not call LE with it?
And of all things, why endanger Haleigh?
Among the possible answers: Because it’s made-up, they’re trying to make fools of us, they’re trying to mislead the investigation, and/or make themselves seem very important.
cent @ 6:40 am-
Someone like Levi who advertises himself as an “investigative reporter” can’t really be an “average joe.” IMO. Even on Twitter.
But even if he can or should be able to be regarded as an “average joe” I would still like to smack him upside the head for saying that Anne was drunk etc. (per Dreamfinders post @ 5:15 am). It’s one thing if carp like that comes from some unknown blogger, but coming from him? REALLY UNPROFESSIONAL and UNACCEPTABLE. UNLESS he publicly accepts the role of “gossip” instead of reporter. Then we’d all know where he was coming from.
It’s like the discussion we had the other day about AH at the beginning. Publicly he presented himself as a reporter (which implies some LACK of bias). And later we find out he’d been HIRED to be someone’s media consultant.
So should we have believed what he said back then? Or even now?
Hollys GMom
I normally do not post or read this site, however since you posted you Got Me!! I am responding and then done with it. After receiving multiply DM’s saying BNN is saying Haleigh has been found I ventured over here to read what was being posted and like many I came away floored and very upset over AnneinTN comments.
I am very rational and evenhanded, did you also see my twitters asking AnneinTN to clarify what she meant by her statements – because several people, including me took it to mean that FBI had located Haleigh, knows who is responsible etc. She could not offer any explanation or clarifications to her comments. So before you get me, you might want to check out the entire story. People are responsible for what they post, what she posted upset and angered many people which caused a response from many.
Have a great day!
Busylady: Please note the first three – most important – letters of the word “assume.” And the little saying about that word.
I’ve read AnneInTn’s comments for a long time. I knew what she meant.
People who take comments OUT OF CONTEXT and do not know the blogger are making ASSumptions. And only they can be blamed for getting the wrong impression. AND they definitely are responsible for spreading that wrong impressions.
M2C – is it safe to come in? The first post I read was yours at 9:31 and it looks like a repeat of yesterday! LOL
Hi, JB! I don’t think it’s exactly “safe” but in a different way than before. Something happened last night and that’s what people are talking about. My comment to Busylady was about that.
Probably best, grasshopper, for you to read back or to ignore it (the latter is probably best) and for us to talk about other things for now if we can. We’ll have to see what happens – hopefully nothing and it will be a nice day. (I HOPE!)
M2C @8:58… I would not attempt to stop you if you did!!
Thank you, Cent. I wonder if I can get in trouble for sending him a literary smack upside the head? (just wondering. haven’t done it yet!lol!)
LOL, I doubt it.
Top O’ the mornin’ to ya’ all!!! Today is a brand new day and I’m lovin’ it! Today I have a new hope….It’s fresh it’s brand new and God said trust it and it shall bring good to all who share it. So I’ve chosen to share it with you fine folks here. We can give it to Haleigh and if God sees fit, he will bring her home. Last night I prayed. I prayed like I’ve never prayed before, and today I feel so alive, I just want to burst! I wouldn’t know how to explain it if I could find words, so I guess I’ll just enjoy and wait. Today will be a good day! Maybe today we can celebrate haleigh coming home, if not, maybe we can celebrate for another family whose child might come home…maybe we can just celebrate that God blessed each and every one of us with a heart big enough to bring us all together in our search for the truth. YEs, today is a good day indeed! Man, I should have been a minister! seriously though, I really do feel good today and I hope you all can feel it too.
MeThinks… you are ministering now!!!! Keep it up, I could use it, and I am taking it!!
Don’t know where my thank you went!!!
*****Thank You*****
M2C – WOW – I just read your post and had to stand up and say HALLELUJAH, PRAISE THE LORD….people are looking at me a bit strange but that’s really nothing new.
I pray today IS a good day and the truth will be told and Haleigh is brought home. It is WAY past time for that. And I’m grateful I missed the drama from the overnight hours…whatever it was…..I’ve started tip toeing into the blog to have a peek around before posting….that way I know whether to put on a party hat or my combat gear before I ever get started. I had my combat boots and helmet at the ready this morning….but HOPEFULLY they won’t be needed. LOL
Morning B*A! Can I get a Hallelujah?!
JB – Do you mean Methinks’ post at 10:30 am?
As much as I’d like to I can’t take credit for that (and I might be “smote” or “smited” or whatever the word is – if I did take credit for it! Yikes!)
Yes, let’s hope this is a good day. And it may be in ways that we will never know so for those things we can be grateful too.
H A L L E L U J A H!!!!!!
Morning… JB!!!
M2C – WHOOPS! You are right (again – really wish you stop doing that all the time! LOL)…sorry….
METHINKS! What a way to start the day!
Morning B*A….. it would appear, at least for now, that the drive bys have ceased and all is peaceful here in our little room…..not too crowded….no new stains on the carpet….did find a few crumbs on the coffee table…but at least I get the GOOD spot on the couch this morning so ALL is right with the world….well, except that we still don’t know where our Haleigh is… 😥
You know, yesterday my keyboard was a little moist and would occassionally sploosh…TODAY it is rather sticky…so forgive me if I stutter…it really isn’t me…..just my keyboard sticking….dang underwear comments…they are REALLY hard on a keyboard (and my sinuses when I’ve just taken a big drink of pop and it ends up coming out my nose…..it wasn’t pretty!) 😳
Hello? <<<<<>>>>>>>> Where did everyone go?
Jb…I think you need a new puter! LOL
Methinks…after yesterday is it really any wonder? There was pop on my monitor, pop in my keyboard and I nearly puked in my mouth! Even my mouse is sticky! LOL I really need to remember NOT to take a drink before reading posts!
So anything new? Any new video? Any NG bombshells? ANYTHING?
Jb, it’s a good thing it’s your puter splooshing and not yer’ undies! LOL
OH METHINKS! Please don’t start with the undies again! My computer can’t take it….and neither can I! LOL Hey, I wonder if they make Depends undergarments for computer keyboards?! That could REALLY come in handy! 😀
By the way cent , You’ve got your NG imitation down to an art! I was reading back from last night and well lets just say…YER’ FUNNY, FUNNY< FUNNY!
NG was boring again lastnight. She did show a couple of snippits that I hadn’t heard before but to remember them…well not!
This forum needs to be monitored a little better. What was once a reliable source, has turned into hatred and ridicule.
Bye.
Goodmorning all! Glad to see everyone starting out on the right note today. AMEN! methinks great post!. Just checking in to see if anything new has popped up. I have company so I cannot stay and chat long. Do not want to ignore them.
BAC you sound like you are feeling better. That is great!
I hope today is today Haleigh is found.
Hello… sorry I dashed out with out saying so! I didn’t watch NG last night, maybe I’ll read the transcripts (I don’t even know when they post them).
Yes, Looking… much better, just the odd sneeze and cough… Thank you!! Hope you’re well!!
Yes Cent I am doing well.
I watched Nancys re-cap of the Haleigh case last night. It was the first I had seen the info Tommy said about the mexicans in Crescent City has Haleigh. Ron was supposed to have owed them money for drugs. Tommy said an inmate brought that info up to him. He did not bring it up first. I was thinking though if this is one of the theories Misty was also in Crescent City with mexicans on her weekend binder along with a prostitute. There is no telling. I know from Pierson all the way down through Pomomna Park it is predominately Hispanic. They mostly work in the fern fields.
Just read the NG transcripts….Lindsey can’t do math either…adds 18 and 25 and gets 33! LMAO….
Now it is the Mexicans that took Haleigh….
Tommy has sworn off ever having friends again and doing drugs…..is doing push ups….
Lindsey wants him to gain weight (weigh 200) or she won’t come get him if he is released (was just joking with him)
Misty has sworn off drugs
Hank has gotten “writ” up at the jail for some of his comments
Lisa believes both her “chillens is innocent”
Tommy says he ain’t no drug dealer (so what DO you call someone who sells and deals drugs? OH, I know, he thinks he’s a pharmacist! Gotcha!
Hank and Tommy obviously think Misty is the key and knows more than she’s telling…
Misty is still begging to get out but is being advised not to talk without her atty.
Misty and Tommy may both be taking LDT’s….again…but only by someone they know and trust….us so like HANK is going to give them the test?
The transcripts made me laugh….nothing really earth shattering. Doesn’t look like LP is in the picture anymore though. No mention of him bailing Misty out. They did mention Cobra but I think he has been banquished from Putnam Co, hasn’t he? LOL
I gotta’ run…bbl
Yeah JB , I do not know how not sleeping well effects the LDT.
LOL to Hank Sr. giving them the test
LFJ – I don’t know either – one minute Misty says all she does is sleep then she says she didn’t take the test because she hadn’t slept…so which is it? LOL
And they don’t trust LE or anyone they don’t know to give them the test so who does that leave? HANK! LOL
Well everyone is ready to go out for lunch. See you all later.
Cent:
There wasn’t much said but, “The Mexicans in Crescent City might have her.” Tommy, also, said Ron had brought that up bedore. He mentioned something to do with someone named
Larry.
If this was something to do with a drug deal gone bad, they could have taken her to Mexico and sold her.
On Nay Nay’s statement to Cobra and Art Harris, she was telling about going over to a house with a prostitute friend of Nay Nay’s, and the Mexicans were acting all weird.
The thought of those guys coming over there and taking her had come to my mind before but, if that was the case, Misty could have told LE. She and Ron wouldn’t have gone into this hiding everything from LE, if that were the case.
That one statement Misty made about, “Why didn’t they take me?” “I could have fought them.” “What would they want with a little 5 yr. old girl?” That statement has always stood out to me.
Hi, Karon! Good to see you! I don’t get to much because you’re usually on the “late shift” here!
Do you think it’s possible (just theoretically) that a Mexican drug gang took Haleigh? Because M’s statement that you quoted would kind of support that. But I agree with you that R and M could have told LE about it. I think R would have told to get Haleigh back. It could have been kept hush-hush until LE could look into it.
I am suspicious of T suddenly saying that about the Mexican drug people especially because he says it was suggested by someone else in jail. Geesh. Can’t believe anything he says – or anyone else for that matter.
Anyway, just interested in your thoughts. TIA
Thanks ALL!!! For the updates of the latest ((((BOMBSHELL))))
See you all in a bit!!
ky mom said,
in March 2nd, 2010 at 1:36 am
Okay look at little baby Gabriel Johnson’s dad he has looked all over for his baby. He got a private investigator to help him search. Why hasn’t anyone in Haleigh’s family done this for her?… If anyone watched Nancy Grace tonight they would have heard new jail house tapes . Something about Mexican’s taking Haleigh. So my question is why hasn’t any of her family went to Mexico and look for her?…
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because you can’t just waltz across the border to look for people not even PIs. Remember dog the bounty hunter being put in a mexican prison? plus there is a large war going on on at mexican border with the cartels slaughtering people.
the big reason is LE has said this is a non stranger abduction and I really doubt any mexican took a little white girl with medical problems to mexico. For what reasons?
Tommy and comp are throwing this out there to take the focus off of him. he is the one that places himself at that mobile later that night.he’s the one that could have opened that side door when he was there earlier in the afternoon.
No one took Haleigh anywhere, Misty did whatever was done to HaLeigh that night and she knows it and so does Ron, they both need to stop all the lying and just tell the truth.I hope Misty never gets out of jail until she tells what she knows, and HaLeigh is brought home,dead or alive, she deserves to be brought home.
XFILES
I AGREE WITH U.MY ONLY QUESTION WHO DID IT RON OR MISTY?
Did anyone catch last night on NG (or as cent says Mizz Nancee) when Hank Sr. was asking Misty if she thought Ron was going to jail and she said yes (don’t really know word for word) then Hank Sr. says “Just for drugs or..?,..then he cuts his sentence off quickly with “nevermind”…WTH? It’s not my imagination that he caught himself mid-sentence. Also, could Larry be that A.C. guy.
RONFAN
I SAID THAT B4 WHEN N.G. FIRST SHOWED IT.I THINK HANK IS A SMART MAN AND SAYS ENUFF TO GET HIS POINT OUT THERE WITHOUT SAYING TO MUCH.
When my BIL was killed by his best friend,in an argument,LE kept bringing friends in for questioning,pressuring them for a number of months until one finally told what happened.The little house mysteriously had burned down,no evidence,no body,til his bones were found by kids in the woods they couldn’t prove he was even dead.LE had to play it out until one of the friends caved.Drugs were involved and they helped bury him and later body was moved.They all got off for thier testimony,but he got ten years.
As LE said they can’t force people to talk,they found evidence that showed Misty was lying,but they have no HaLeigh.They have to play this out until one of these idiot druggies cave in and talk.If they had tried anyone,they’d have gotten off without talking and no HaLeigh,they couldn’t retry them again for the same crime.
LE kept in touch with us and were doing so many things we didn’t even know about until after.They don’t have to tell the family anything,especially if they feel or know a family member is involved.Why give info that could be given to the suspect or suspects.
LE might even know all or part of what happened,but the key is they have to be able to prove it.They’ll say a person isn’t a suspect so they’ll put thier guard down and they’ll let people feel they’ve passed the LDT.They can say whatever they want publicly,it’s not about us and what we want to know,it’s finding out what happened and proving who did it.Even if it was a money scam for a missing child,they have to prove it.
Dang,that was a long post,I’m sorry,I hate long posts,noone reads them.LOL But,I wanted to say LE knows more than we do,are doing more than we know and will let it play out until they can prove it.
Okay, let’s say Mexicans (or Russians, or Iranians, or Martians for that matter) took Haleigh and Ron and Misty knew/know that….so they don’t tell LE becausssseee…….? Especially now that they are basically in protective custody, if that TRULY were the case, why wouldn’t they say..”The Mexicans came and took her, Ron owed them money for a drug deal gone bad, they put a gun in Misty’s mouth and made her swear not to tell and we didn’t because we were scared!”…I mean, how hard would that be especially if it would end all this madness? I’m sorry but the whole Mexican thing is Tommy and family blowing smoke (green in color) up all our a$$es IMO!
I agree JB. If Ron would have known Mexicans or Martians had Haleigh and where they were at, LE could have followed him right to her. I have no doubt Ron would have been going after her. The smoke just gets greener as this case gets meaner.
I highly doubt Mexicans took anyone,they’d have come in and wasted everyone.But,I believe drugs have everything to do with what happened and why they’re all in jail now and the high bonds.Tommy doesn’t even have a courtdate right now.
WinterRose…Hey, I read long posts….heck, I’m responsible for MOST of the long posts! LOL Sorry about the ordeal you’ve been through! God Bless you! I agree LE knows a LOT more than they are saying and I can only pray they are close to putting all the pieces of this maddening puzzle together.
My impression was that Tommy was not saying Mexican’s too Haleigh, he was conveying to Hank that another inmate there had suggested that scenario.
If this was Tommy’s own theory, the statement would have been redacted.
I rewatched some videos,RC spent most of the time in his tent,TN came out and talked for HaLeigh.In the MH tour,NG asked TN why RC wasn’t going in front of the media and asking for HaLeigh.TN said because the media has been so mean to RC and I said WTH?Who cares how the media is treating you,get out and look for your child.I don’t take RC as a person who would sit back and not look for his child if he thought someone had her.KWIM Just saying…
Treece – Maybe when the green smoke clears and Ron gets his spacecraft up and running he can go retrieve Haleigh from the Martians! LOL
I’m not buying this Mexican connection. If Ron KNEW that someone had Haleigh, he would have already been kicking down doors….he hasn’t kicked down doors because HE and MISTY are responsible for Haleigh being missing and I truly believe Haleigh is no longer with us as much as that crushes my soul to say!
Oh and did anyone catch the Misty/Casey comment about “I can’t do anything from behind bars…I need to get out so I can help find Haleigh/Caylee….” OMG…I was like WHAT? What has she done to find Haleigh for the last year and now she wants us to believe she WILL help find Haleigh if someone will just bond her out? OMG…I had flashbacks to Casey Anthony! I say keep Misty where she is…although they could install a stripper pole in her cell…I mean, that was a VERY important tool for Casey when she was so desperately searching for Caylee! ROFLMAO
BACent is there anyway that I your email address?
xfiles said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 1:13 pm No one took Haleigh anywhere, Misty did whatever was done to HaLeigh that night and she knows it and so does Ron, they both need to stop all the lying and just tell the truth.I hope Misty never gets out of jail until she tells what she knows, and HaLeigh is brought home,dead or alive, she deserves to be brought home.
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Hmmmmm without a trial? jmo I am glad you ain’t judging me!
sorry, nevermind I found it, will send u mail soon.
Sleazy feds. Publicity whores like this jack-off ‘cobra’. Insanely unjust bail. Entrapment and attempted cohercion by the goverment.
Come on. I know of cases where defendants have pulled 6 YEARS for homicide. These ‘kids’ sold a handful of pills and Misty’s bail is $950.000!
I feel the worst for Ron. They left their home town to avoid the rabid press camped 24/7 outside thier trailer park! They sold less then 50 pills and all of a sudden Florida is treating these poor morons like Columbian drug lords.
Your right Misty. They can kiss my ass too.
m2c♥ said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 6:37 am Hi Dreamfinder!
First Levi Page is NOT what I’d call a news person. I don’t care if he went to college or took an online journalism course or whatever his “supposed” credentials (if he has any), just watch what he says and how he says it. He’s a gossip IMO.
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ITA.
/me reads the long ones too!
LoL Actually they usually come from me!
CathyJo – we all can get long winded when we get on a roll! LOL
AmenJB,LoL I resemble that remark!
Diamond Dave – you seem…well…a tad bit angry….perhaps had a little legal trouble of your own? WOW!
BTW. Nancy Grace is a rabid ratings bitch. Why don’t she ramp it up on that Gariedo monster. HLN can kiss my ass. You too Nancy. I use to like you. Hopefully your twins won’t grow up to be as ugly as you.
ky mom said,
in March 2nd, 2010 at 1:36 am
Okay look at little baby Gabriel Johnson’s dad he has looked all over for his baby. He got a private investigator to help him search. Why hasn’t anyone in Haleigh’s family done this for her?… If anyone watched Nancy Grace tonight they would have heard new jail house tapes . Something about Mexican’s taking Haleigh. So my question is why hasn’t any of her family went to Mexico and look for her?…
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because you can’t just waltz across the border to look for people not even PIs. Remember dog the bounty hunter being put in a mexican prison? plus there is a large war going on on at mexican border with the cartels slaughtering people.
the big reason is LE has said this is a non stranger abduction and I really doubt any mexican took a little white girl with medical problems to mexico. For what reasons?
Tommy and comp are throwing this out there to take the focus off of him. he is the one that places himself at that mobile later that night.he’s the one that could have opened that side door when he was there earlier in the afternoon.
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You must not be a parent. Because a parent would go to the ends of the earth to find their child. All the trouble in Mexico wasn’t going on when Haleigh went missing. So I guess Ron should just do drugs, party, and loss his other child. OHHH wait that is what he did. That diffidently does not help him get Haleigh
back. HE NEEDED TO BE LOOKING FOR HIS DAUGHTER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Course i guess if you were a juror and you had a long list of facts and evidence,and a short one too..then I Hope you be da one reading da longuns!
Diamond Dave – I will say I agree in ONE area…. just like in the Shaniya Davis case where the mother has only $51,000 in bail which I think is INSANE as the woman should NEVER see daylight again for pimping out her daughter. BUT, I’m NOT for lowering Ron and Misty’s bail….I’m just all for raising Shaniya’s mother’s bail! 😀
Diamond Dave,
I know it’s hard for some who lost thier connections.Take heart,the drug activity is alive and well in PC,just calm down and eat some fruit or something. LOL Just go over to any local Kangaroo or Spinners and they’ll fix ya right up. 🙂
KY Mom – I agree…and I think the reason he didn’t look is because he already knew where she was and he “couldn’t” bring her back because she was no longer living. That is the ONLY explanation I can find for he and Misty’s actions (or lack thereof).
Dang Diamond Dave… I think you need some fiber in your diet…. go gnaw on a milkbone or something…..although NG does grate on my nerves a little too! You need to take a deep breath and try to find your happy place! I’m certainly looking for mine after reading your posts! ANGER MANAGEMENT CLASSES MEAN ANYTHING? LOL
And btw,why is everybody giving Ann a hard time over her statement,I have heard a heck of alot more from other ppl and she has been here every single minute of the day basically and i know for a fact she don’t say crap just to hear her head roll…………and anybody who knows her period would know that,Hell fire every day someone posts crap and its your choice if you wanna believe it but check the validity 1st for petes sake,Man..its a miracle somebody aint drug me off in a gulley somewhere for jumping the gun,and its wrong what everybody said to her!
Plain cruel,she’s here everyday doing what Haleighs own family won’t do! Well some of em!
IMO if ya notice i ain’t seen a plea on tv since ron went to jail!
IMO,I think ron had doubts the whole time looking back on it now,I won’t say why directly for now cause everybody reads posts and runs blabbing!Ron did not hurt Haleigh!!
I know from personal experience that its hard to come to terms when you start thinking someone you loved and brought into your familes lives could do such a thing!
btw IMO I think he didn’t look cause he knew,its a bad predicament to be in!but he didn’t do it!
The Mexicans were the ones that Misty and NayNay were w/, and Tommy said that an inmate who had been in Putman previously,approached him and mentioned the Mexicans. So then Tommy says how did this guy even know about them? (from Ron?maybe) Then Tommy and Hank sr. started talking about a time when Ron was sitting on the porch and was talking about the Mexicans and “Larry”, and how upset he was.
Yesterday there was dozens of new ppl here,or is it just me?
bbl
Yep.. Cathy there were a few… and some that probably hadn’t been here in a while!
What about the interviews w/T.Holmseth where Marty Sheffield says Kim Picazio told him to fire Cobra re:him getting in the way of the custody issues?
Didn’t Kim Picazio threaten to get Cobra arrested if he didn’t remove himself from the Sheffields? He was working for them and then he began to suspect Marie was involved; and Karen Simmer who worked w/Picazio also tried to expose her(Picazio)and suspected the Sheffields, but nothing was done..It’s all documented, so it’s got to be real.
That’s why I never understood why the “sightings” of Haleigh were coincedentaly in the same states that the Sheffields were traveling in, and also where all the Croslin relatives live? But we only heard about the Haleigh sightings in the states the Croslins were in ie Tennessee,Mass.; the Haleigh sightings that were in Georgia and Alabama and Kentucky were never on the news. The only way they were exposed was by that T. Holmseth guy.
So, is LE using all the Croslins as scapegoats, and covering up for the Sheffields; Johnny Sheffield(Marty)used to work for PCSO, but since has been in trouble w/the law; that’s how a lady who sighted Haleigh picked him out from a Mug Shot, but when she reported it to police, she found out it was never followed up on.
I think the T.Holmseth reporter is on target.
Sorry one more question guys: The cop “Jason” who is Ron’s “buddy”, (remember he said “I got 2 “buddies” in here, one’s and inmate, and one’s a cop.), well how come there is a Jason listed as being arrested at the same time w/everyone else; but he was bailed out immediately, like right away!!
The thing is anyone could say they saw Haleigh somewhere and everyone knows what the families look like. LE could have known his where abouts and it wasnt where the lady said she saw Haleigh. Just saying alot of nuts just want 15 min. of fame or just want to start trouble for the person they think is guilty.
This can also slow down the investigation into finding where she really is. jmo
This is what I would do if I had a sighting of a missing child. Get a picture on my cel phone,
follow the people to the car get plate #, follow as long as I could to where they were going, and all along while on the phone to LE.
wHAT i AM SAYING IS GET EVIDENCE FOR YOUR SITING,even other witnesses. jmo
Why isn’t anyone talking to me? You all are my only adult conversation I get!! Is everyone just sick of me??? I’m saaaddd.
Okay, now I KNOW my head is going to explode! So many theories…so many intertwined convaluded bassachward circumstances I can’t make heads or tails of it! Maybe the Sheffields hired the Mexicans to take Haleigh so it if they got caught they could blame it on Ron and his drug deal that went bad! Heck, I don’t know! This is the biggest mess I EVER saw! I’m about to believe Haleigh WAS abducted by Aliens! Would be easier to prove! SHEESH!
vaquera said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Tommy and comp are throwing this out there to take the focus off of him. he is the one that places himself at that mobile later that night.he’s the one that could have opened that side door when he was there earlier in the afternoon.
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ITA. I don’t believe a word Tommy or Hank say.
RonFan…LOL – don’t be sad…we still love you…I don’t think any of us are talking to anyone in particular….we’re just shooting theories and frustrations out there for the masses!
ME…okay, I’m an idiot…what does ITA mean?
Ronfan # 3:31 Regarding the first paragraph. You said, “It’s all documented, so it’s got to be real.”
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Unfortunately the “documentation” you refer to is highly suspect. In fact much of it is misleading. For example, I believe it was the KS you mention (who did NOT work for KP by the way – she’s a blogger) who claimed that KP said she knew Haleigh was alive and well somewhere. But if you look at the actual QUOTE that KS provided, it reads: “I bet Haleigh is alive and well someplace.”
There is a WORLD of difference between the claims/headlines and the actual statement.
That’s just a small example but a good one to give you an idea of the kind of “reporting” that is. That’s why I can’t trust it.
I have wondered why would Marie be taking a vacation now when Spring break is right around the corner?
Does anyone know where she went?
I am not suspicious of a vacation, but, it does seem the timing is suspicious, when Spring break is a few weeks away.
JB said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 3:50 pm Okay, now I KNOW my head is going to explode! So many theories…
********************LoL Too many chiefs and not enuff injuns!
I ain’t ignoring anybody,Its just confusion,we have all said what we know and still don’t know nothing RF! LoL
RonFan, I’m not ignoring you. I just got back on the computer. And I’m sorry I had to say something negative about a source you mentioned. But those are my observations.
I don’t know about the Jason you mentioned. Are you sure he bonded out? I wonder what his bail was? That could be a clue as to whether he was involved. I kind of doubt it though. If you are implying he was the UC. I don’t think they’d bother booking him. Just pretend to take him to another jail. I don’t know though.
But I am curious as to who the UC was because I think M and R really trusted him and have to wonder if they’ve known him for a long time maybe. (Pure speculation)
I have a feeling the vacation tip was false since it was never proven. Simon even said it came from phone calls and it was 2nd or 3rd hand , so it could just be some who wanted to start trouble. imho
Hmm,glad I came over here to read, seems someone was using my nic in here so I added the 4U2.
Stupid games of some, pathetic!
Texasmommy39 – I don’t think MG is in college so why she’d wait for “Spring Break” to go on a vacation, I don’t know. And I don’t think she’s got the figure to hang out on the beach in Daytona with the beach babes anyway. Maybe I’m not understanding you?
JB..
ITA = I totally agree!
could be so she could take the kids without missing school. But I think the whole vacation thing may have been a lie someone told Simon. jmo
I guess we will have to wait and see. All of y’alls jokes and commentary have had me rolling since last night.
m2c♥ said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 4:02 pm RonFan, I’m not ignoring you. I just got back on the computer. And I’m sorry I had to say something negative about a source you mentioned. But those are my observations.
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get used to it RF,I have posted those from way back when but i get called on it everytime too,LoL
Marie drives a school bus.
Actually imoo,Alot of the players,reporters etc……..report what they “think” they know but ain’t nobody knows what really happened yet,but i am waiting!
m2c♥ said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 4:04 pm Texasmommy39 – I don’t think MG is in college so why she’d wait for “Spring Break” to go on a vacation, I don’t know. And I don’t think she’s got the figure to hang out on the beach in Daytona with the beach babes anyway. Maybe I’m not understanding you?
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Maybe Texasmommy was referring to the fact marie has a 10 year old son? Poor kid.
Would it not make sense to plan a vacation when you are off for a week?
well,a bus driver….hmmmmmm go figure!
an ex dealer and user..according to her bg! imo
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3 months ago my grandson’s bus driver got 2 speeding tickets in ONE day,he’s still driving it!
Cathy, Some reporters also take things out of context and remove words(redact) interviews and phone calls to make it look like something is being said that isnt. I have heard some of the same videos sound different at other times.
Some have even made claims on the show that this reporter does this. jmo
TexMom! We do get silly sometime,think maybe it was a fullmoon,LoL
I think I will stick to believing TJ since he lives in florida and he has played it straight from the get go. jmo
Thank you me I had not even thought of that aspect, but, again why now? I have to say TJ is smart he said what he did to get a response, and we where all witness to a lot of action on the internet last night as well as this morning. I am sure it has stirred the pot just as it was intended to do.
texasmommy…forgot about the fact she drives a school bus. I’m shocked the local parents haven’t petitioned to get her fired, given she ran a drug house with kids in it.
Exactly my point Tobias,
Hell,if we all knew,I would say we’d be on another case by now!
DMJ2245 – I agree. I seriously doubt RT has any real official capacity at all. If she does it would only be as MG’s “henchman” or “propaganda blogger buddy” (which has been very evident in her own actions.
I don’t know if Cobra knows her.
texasmommy39 – are you on twitter yet?
Tobias @ 4:15- That is exactly right.
tobias said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 4:18 pm I think I will stick to believing TJ since he lives in florida and he has played it straight from the get go. jmo
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Yep. TJ is the only reporter I trust in this case. He doesn’t have an angle, just puts the truth out there. And showed such courage by saying no thanks to NG. I wish all reporters had his integrity.
Right Again Tobias,even if they come up wrong we still know the one’s we trust believed it to be the way it was reported!
I think past mistakes should be left in the past unless they can be proven to have reoccured. At some point a person has to be forgiven for past transgressions. jmo
me and others: I know. But when I saw “Spring Break” in “Florida” I couldn’t help it! All those images of crazed, drunk college kids on the beaches sprang to mind! LOL!
Full Moon……. Your right. No, wonder!
Nope. I am twitter illiterate. LOL
I don’t know anything about Marie going on vacation,who cares if her,GGM or TN go anywhere?But,I know Johnny Sheffield’s sister was just buried,Joshua and Candyce’s mother and family came from all around,according to thier myspace sites.Maybe Marie and some of them spent time together while they were in the area,who knows? So now,it’s a big conspiracy theory,like GGM going to Vegas,she has a friend there,so big deal.
tobias said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 4:18 pm I think I will stick to believing TJ since he lives in florida and he has played it straight from the get go. jmo
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totally agree with you
Yes… in thongs!!!
Texasmommy39 said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 4:26 pm Nope. I am twitter illiterate. LOL
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you should join
I have never even been to twitter!
CathyJo – I am not “calling on you” when I talk about that reporter or his web site.
As you can see my problem is with the reporter and his web site. It doesn’t matter who is talking about it. Much of what is written there is misleading and a kind of “tabloid” journalism that I find appalling and it worries me. I have to speak up about that no matter who is mentioning it.
And the reason I do is because lots of people read here and may go to that site. So if they do not see my opinion about it they might be easily taken in. At least if they see my opinion, they might read it with a bit more caution.
Also, if you would please join the BNN Forum I would like to PM you to explain something. I goofed up big time and misread something I would like to tell you about. Please sign up will you? When you do you can PM me to let me know. I would really appreciate it!.
My 4:27 was meant in regards to the beaches… not TJ!!!
I just might do that. I have been waiting so patiently for this case to break.
BAc, I hope he doesnt wear on but hey he may look kinda cute too hmmm Oppps sorry I was daydreaming a little bit. jmo
DMJ2245 said,
in March 2nd, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Regardless of who Rebecca Thomas claims to be, I received an e mail written by Teresa Neves this morning that states Rebecca Thomas does not speak for or represent the Cummings family in any capacity.
It is absurd to assume that Thomas represents Crystal’s family given the vitriol she exhibits toward them.
Does anyone know if Ms. Thomas is affiliated with Cobra Staubs? She seems to be another person who is determined to be involved in this case despite not being wanted by Haleigh’s family.
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LMAO riiiiiiiiight. You didn’t receive any email from TN and especially one that says that.
Seems like the trolls have been out full force since yesterday
In other words you are full of crap.
Tobias…. I want to picture NO ONE in one!!!
Is there a guide to off limit taboo subject matter and where might one find fact based information that can be read on this case?
Or is that only provided upon membership?
Vaq, I think everyone knew that was a lie thats why no one commented back on it. We are pretty troll sensitive here. jmo
curious, I am curious about any redeeming qualities of Twitter. So far as I know it is very insecure internet safety-wise and also gossipy and hate-filled, too. I wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole.
m2c♥ said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 4:30 pm CathyJo – I am not “calling on you” when I talk about that reporter or his web site.
As you can see my problem is with the reporter and his web site. It doesn’t matter who is talking about it. Much of what is written there is misleading and a kind of “tabloid” journalism that I find appalling and it worries me. I have to speak up about that no matter who is mentioning it.
And the reason I do is because lots of people read here and may go to that site. So if they do not see my opinion about it they might be easily taken in. At least if they see my opinion, they might read it with a bit more caution.
Also, if you would please join the BNN Forum I would like to PM you to explain something. I goofed up big time and misread something I would like to tell you about. Please sign up will you? When you do you can PM me to let me know. I would really appreciate
******************************I didn’t mean it that way M2,I simply didn’t want RF to think he was being called out or ignored and that was my explanation of it as well all know you do not want biased info posted,I was just being honest in a fun way…not to make you feel bad,sorry if you thought different!
You must not be a parent. Because a parent would go to the ends of the earth to find their child. All the trouble in Mexico wasn’t going on when Haleigh went missing. So I guess Ron should just do drugs, party, and loss his other child. OHHH wait that is what he did. That diffidently does not help him get Haleigh
back. HE NEEDED TO BE LOOKING FOR HIS DAUGHTER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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I live in TX, the border stuff has been going on for years.
Crystal apparently is doing drugs too and I don’t see her booking any flights to Mexico either, though she did get as close as Austin.
Where has Crystal looked?
Texasmommy39 – If you’re interested in facts, I think Twitter would not even be on the list of places to go.
BNN is pretty good. TJ Hart is a great reporter, a professional and has worked on this case for a long time.
tobias said,
in March 2nd, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Vaq, I think everyone knew that was a lie thats why no one commented back on it. We are pretty troll sensitive here. jmo
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oh well, lol
Also that is not the real xfiles either. Guess IS and WS’s is slow today. 😀
I don’t know why it bugs people for others to chitchat once in a blue moon! You can still read facts here!
You don’t have to search for something you hid.
What is IS??
Vaquera – Please don’t let anyone discourage you from leaving any comment you like. I appreciated your comment very much – all of them all the time.
There are plenty of people here and just reading who don’t know what’s what so a head’s up on the facts is ALWAYS a good idea.
HE NEEDED TO BE LOOKING FOR HIS DAUGHTER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
****************IMOO, he kept it on tv!!
Where have they looked?
M2C:
I doubt the Mexicans took her. The Croslins are pretty good about sending us all off on bunny trails to cause confusion. I would like to know who this Larry is that Tommy was talking about.
What was the name of that guy that was supposed to be pimping Nay Nay and Amber out? He wouldn’t give their clothes back, supposedly. Remember?
CathyJo @ 4:43 – I was posting so YOU wouldn’t feel bad! LOL!
We’re getting all mixed up trying to not let each other feel bad! That’s a GOOD way to get mixed up! 🙂
m2c♥ said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 4:41 pm curious, I am curious about any redeeming qualities of Twitter. So far as I know it is very insecure internet safety-wise and also gossipy and hate-filled, too. I wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole.
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Perhaps you tweet with the wrong folks?
m2c♥ said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 4:41 pm curious, I am curious about any redeeming qualities of Twitter. So far as I know it is very insecure internet safety-wise and also gossipy and hate-filled, too. I wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole.
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Perhaps you tweet with the wrong folks?
M2C – you never cease to amaze….I don’t know what you do for a living but I bet it is detailed work. You are the most analytical and detailed person I ever met (online or otherwise). Nothing gets by you. HollysGmom runs a close second! You guys are incredible. You remember ALL this stuff. It is just a jumbled mess in my head…little bits and pieces of information in no particular order. Thank you for making sense of the information for those of us who are less analytical and organized!
Cathy, I had a problem with one of them yesterday giving out past rumours that have been cleared up. And they were using old video from Feb,15 2009 to state their facts. It was all cleared up on Feb. 24 2009 on National News.
Some people do this to give others untrue information. Some do it because they have an agenda.
And if you give them the correct and updated facts they rrefuse to look at the info. Trolls and agenda seekers really mess up a site.
Look back at some of the posts that popped up yesterday.
We werent fooled because most of us are dedicated to the truth and finding Haleigh no matter who took her. jmo
I’ve never heard about anything worthwhile coming out of Tweeting about this case. Has there been?
I can blog and otherwise communicate with everyone I want to right here. Don’t need tweety (and frankly I’ve always thought he was a sweetie pie of a bird and I’m sorry his “name” has been turned into such sludge like this! LOL!)
I’m lost!! What chit chat??? My thong remark?
KARON, His name is Jerome Williams and he is in Prison. jmo
I agree Tj is held to the standards I would expect out of a journalist. That is why I do not totally disregard what he shared with listeners Sunday. He is very methodical in his approach of information and only revealing things that are not just gossip but hold some credibility. The fact that he chose not to divulge all that he knew was for the effect of the….Fallout or aftermath. I am only guessing at his motive,but would not be surprised if more comes out about this so called vacation.
m2c♥ said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 4:51 pm CathyJo @ 4:43 – I was posting so YOU wouldn’t feel bad! LOL
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Gotcha,it is a very good way M2!
JB, thank you but I don’t hold a candle to others like Vaquera for example who seems to be able to pluck facts out of thin air in mere seconds. Or people who bring info and links from other sources to us. That’s a great thing to do!
I guess what I do is study it and think about it (info/comments etc) and sometimes pick up on things. Sometimes they’re very apparent (to me and others) and sometimes they’re more subtle.
cent – me, too. I’m lost on the chit chat as well.
I think “Twitter” should have been called “chitter” which would morph easily into “sh…er.” LOL (Sorry folks. Been a long day and I guess I’m losing it. But after what happened on twitter last night I am really disgusted with it even more than before)
Tobias,as long as they get the REAL who did it!
m2c♥ said,
in March 2nd, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Vaquera – Please don’t let anyone discourage you from leaving any comment you like. I appreciated your comment very much – all of them all the time.
There are plenty of people here and just reading who don’t know what’s what so a head’s up on the facts is ALWAYS a good idea.
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that would never happen, believe me. I don’t discourage easily,LOL 😉
I agree Tobias! I noticed!And yes,
No matter WHO did it!!
tobias said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Did anyone catch Hanks blood pressure? He must have been to the doctor? Oh no I hope he didnt get any presciptions while he was there? lol. jmo
beautiful*adams (cent) said,
in March 2nd, 2010 at 4:48 pm
What is IS??
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In Sessions, used to be the old court tv board.
WS has been slow for awhile in my opinion because you are only allowed one opinion.
Can someone give me a link for the “newer” snippets of the videos!!! I can’t continue or join in properly until I see them!!
Texasmommy39 said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 4:40 pm Is there a guide to off limit taboo subject matter and where might one find fact based information that can be read on this case?
No Adams,i was referring to our humor last night,when she asked where can she find info!
Texasmommy39 said,
in March 2nd, 2010 at 5:08 pm
WS has been slow for awhile in my opinion because you are only allowed one opinion.
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Ya think? I thought everyone had left that had a different opinion than what the ones that now rule Haleigh’s Forum had. 😉
http://www.newsrunner.com/videos/ronald-cummings/1/1?ref=%2Fentity%2Fnation%2Fronald-cummings%2F3033786161%2F0%2F0%3Fsummaryon%3D1%26sg%3Dall
Adams,tons of em here!
Karon @ 4:51 – Thank you. The Mexican angle was barely hanging on to my list of theories and I think it’s fallen off now.
I don’t think the Croslins started it. It’s been around a long time. I know T mentioned it recently but who knows why.
I’m not sure who “Larry” is although I remember that as being the name mentioned in that call from Hank Sr to TM. Remember when a child at some gathering said she’d just talked to Haleigh on the phone and Haleigh said she was with “Larry.” And R was supposed to have quipped, “With that and $30,000 I could find Haleigh.” Unfortunately TM took R seriously.
I’m sure R meant that he had no idea who Larry was and that whoever L was he’d probably want money for Haleigh. Sounded like an off-the-cuff comment. Plus it was Hank Sr telling the story and at the time he was causing as much trouble for R as he could.
But Larry is not an uncommon name, so who knows?
Thanks Vaq!!
You can’t have a convo with those that are driven to prosocute before there is a trial. Without a doubt is the burden that must be withstood to bring about jusice not an agenda by the masses. That site has educated me, unfortunatly, to find anything of intrest pertain to the case I had to come here to BNN. I have to say it was unnerving to find out in a Bar Complaint that the site I participated in ( and with all that where mentioned) daily was invoved and mentioned in this Complaint rebuttle.
Adams,did the link help ya?
So Cathy were we being insulted, because of our off the wall humor?? You know me, I don’t like to jump to conclusions!!
oh sorry TexMom,i thought you were po’d at out posts last night like some ppl were!
yes,a few times Adams,LoL
Cathy your link must be in Mod… I don’t see it! But if you can direct me, I’ll go look for it. Thanks!!!
Adams,yea but the ones who were here with us were lovin’ it!
ohhhh,i see it,lol didn’t know you couldn’t!
Well I think its better to have humor than to be frustrated to the point of attacking each other. You guys were great at defusing frustration in my opinion. jmo
Thats what i thought to Tobias,we have all been lighting one anothers wicks and shoot,gotta break the tension sometime! LoL
If you see thissen’ Adams,its at news runner,type in search Halighs keywords!
Theres alot there,neatly in a row!
Texasmommy39: You will LOVE it here! We’ve got at least 8 theories floating around at any given time. Of course there are great “debates” (ahem) about them but we’re all allowed our opinions. I have seven myself.
AND we get great info here too!
m2c: You didn’t say anything bad!! That’s why I like you all, you all know your information!!
I’m gonna try and go look at that stuff again, so I can catch it. Oh, the Jason stuff; It was on the original booking records. Just weird, but if you see it, you will know what I am talking about. Please help me with this one!!
Cathy, Did you catch the part where Hank says his blood pressure is up? Hope he didnt get any new prescriptions at the doctors.
On one tape he asks Misty Do you think Ron is going away for a long time? then says never mind dont answer. What was that all about? It was an odd statement to make. jmo
Cathy @5:26 & 5:28.. I think I see… I thought it carried over to NOW. Not the whole (twitter crap stuff). The joking… NG, humorous stories… cause I just re-read them, and I am LMAO… again!!
I think humor is great, too. But it shouldn’t be so “messy” next time. Poor JB is going to have to buy a new keyboard I think! ON TOP of having to buy knee high rubber boots to march about in the pasture. LOL!
(JUST KIDDING!)
I LOVED IT! LMAO last night and this morning.
Funny as heck,lol rather be laughin that crying!
I have some pastures that need cleaning. LOL
Lord yow Tobias,LoL Also when Misty brought up the dr.shopping,or Hank did,i’m brainless sometimes…….he said,he didn’t wanna talk about it,cause remember he had to go to couurt the same day himself!
ronfan – If you want to join the BNN Forum you can PM me if you want to talk about anything at the other site. It is so insidious that it can be hard to spot.
To join the Forum just go to the top of this page and click on Forums. It’s easy and you just use the same nic you have here on the board.
Good place for off-topic talk too anytime a number of people would like to do that. It’s just like blogging here. There’s a special thread for it.
Got to go for a while. See y’all later.
The same day theu did,meant to say!
Did anyone find out what happened at Hanks court date? Did he just get probation? I can go look but if someone knows its quicker. jmo
Tobias: HANKS blood pressure was 156/102; He got it taken at WalMart…
Why can I remember stupid stuff like that, and not the things that matter??
I like the theory about the Sheffields hiring the Mexicans. LOL Oh God, what if it ended up being true?!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or mine about the Sheffields hiring the Croslins? Uggghhhhh….
so many choices……too many people!!!
Hunny I need my own blog to fill with funny horror stories i have been thru…LoL
It never gets boring!LoL
RF,has he bought his coffin yet?
lol
M2C – Hey, I’ve invested in Depends Undergarments for my keyboard and bought hip high waders for when it gets REALLY deep in here….and I already told you, I did my part and I shoveled the cow patties last time….it won’t be ME that steps in it next time….I’m being EXTRA careful (watching where I step) and following your lead! This little doggies round up days are OVER! YEEEE HAAAAA! LOL I’ve moved on to greener pastures….like debating thongs vs. granny panties….and OH GAWD how I hate to say this again…SKIDMARKS! It’s all good! We all have our calling in life….mine just seems to be CRAP! One way or the other…it’s ALWAYS crap….could be cow patties, might be skidmarks but yes folks, my area of expertise appears to be pure CRAP! 😆
Some people are experts at finding facts, others analyzing data….my specialty is CRAP…just call me the CRAPINATOR! Go ahead…ask me anything….as long as it is about crap that is! LOL
Thanks…. I will check them out a little later, Yes, it’s a good site the News Runner!!
JB you are something else.LMAO
Texasmommy…glad you are joining us here! Welcome! I used to enjoy your posts elsewhere and we pm’ed a few times. This place is much much better….I hope you stay!
JB said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 5:45 pm
LoL One day my ship will come in but I can’t swim to the dang thing!
Yes Texasmommy – welcome…you being from Texas might come in handy next time a certain MOO cow mozies our way and drops more cow patties! How are you with a bull whip?
CathyJo – yeah, my ship came in….and SANK!
Curious are you still around? IS it you I need to have a chat with since you have been MIA and was a no show for our phone date?
Does anyone know whether Dunn Creek bridge area was searched? The reason I ask is for the longest time I have been having nightmares about it. When I heard about Chads brother getting run over and killed on it on Jan.7,2009 and then Rons talking about a bridge to Amber. Well it is strange to say the least. jmo
LoL JB,I was asked to go on a pontoon with a guy that asked me out about 3 yrs ago i guess,and he’s like me,scared to talk..LoL shy i guess,and we were out in the middle of the lake and i had to make him talk so I said,Ya know Goble, I am terrified of water,I can’t swim and he says,”Well,neither can I” OMG u talk about panic.i told him get this damn boat back to shore,never seen him again!
Okay folks…so which theory are we leaning towards today? The Mexican conspiracy? Misty did it? Ron did it and Misty helped? The Sheffields did it? Tommy and Cousin Joe did it? A RSO did it? A loving family took Haleigh out of the nightmare home life she had to give her a better life? NG (aka MIZZ NANCEE) stole her so she’d have another story to beat to death? Alien abduction? Haleigh ran away? An overdose? I’ve lost track of all the theories we tossed around and have no idea which one we are on now!
CathyJo63: LOL!!! It’s ok, I know I had too much attitude when I first came here !! But you all put me in my place real quick!!! Yep,I deserved it!!!(might have been from watchin’ too much Nancy Grace!!, I was brainwashed!)
Seriously, you all are great…Very dedicated,informative, and verrrrrrrry patient with newcomers!!!
brought me on a damn boat and couldn’t save me if it flipped!
CathyJo! LOL – you really need to write a book!
Thank Y’all for the warm welcome. I have been gun shy for a little while and have finally gone stir crazy with the patience thing. I am also glad a few of my ol’ friends are here as well.
I dunno but I’d love some news JB?
Texasmommy39 said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 5:08 pm WS has been slow for awhile in my opinion because you are only allowed one opinion.
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Yep, BNN is far better. Many opinions here….we don’t all agree, but the posters are fantastic and even those you disagree with, are generally quite pleasant, so it’s a much more pleasant place to be, and the hottest and place on the internet to discuss Haleigh.
I have a question on my 554 post if anyone knows? jmo
RF,I did the same,i was gungho about them being guilty till i came here and i started thinking that they had been framed,and it seemed no one liked me b/c of it but I’m still here and I have different theories i believe in.LoL
Ain’t it the truth JB,Swear to God i feel like a buzzrd just dropped me in this big ole world and i am honest to God,one in a trillion,I ain’t normal,ask anybody!
JB what is your pet theory for the moment? I have had the same one for a year.
See ya in a couple of hours… getting ready to start commute back!! JB… Errrrkkkk ((((skid… skid… skid and scratching))))
Where is Jason…. Jason, I don’t think anyone has made a Viral Vid of Misty’s Tit Tay Pocket… yet!!
TexMoM,I love it here too,can’t stay away even when i get mad and swear i won’t be back…LoL
I need to get started on dinner. BBL
I gotta go fold Laundy,bbs…everybodys runnin’lol
BTW, I was laughing so hard last night, I almost choked!! I couldn’t sleep, so got on comp to catch up, and omg,
1. Potted meats, deer jerky
2.undie stories
3. Bac: ur nancy grace stuff is perfect! Exotic wear!! Chicken nuggets..
4. Satellite images and Sheffield sightings?
5. Marie’s beach vacation
So much more to mention..I was sippin’glass of wine and literally spit it out I was laughing so hard!
Tobias:
Thanks for the 4:57 answer.
I just wanted to let anyone who cared know that I emailed Tim H. last night after I got off this site and asked him if he has had any response since he filed the complaint and he replied back to me this:
Denise,
I am in receipt of a letter from the United States Department of Justice
acknowledging and advising they are in receipt of my complaint against the
Putnam County Sheriff’s Office and State’s Attorney Office in Palatka,
Florida.
I am not at liberty to discuss any thing further than the before-mentioned
sentence.
Chelsea King’s body has been found 🙁 Why was that sick piece of evil sh!t even out of jail to begin with?
tobias said,
in March 2nd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Does anyone know whether Dunn Creek bridge area was searched? The reason I ask is for the longest time I have been having nightmares about it. When I heard about Chads brother getting run over and killed on it on Jan.7,2009 and then Rons talking about a bridge to Amber. Well it is strange to say the least. jmo
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It wasn’t Chad’s brother. I am sure they did, they had boats up and down the river. Not sure how far it is from 202 green Lane.
Denise, And they more than likely filed it in the waste basket. Not bashing you but I just dont like the guy and his methods.jmo
CATHYJO: Yep he sure did, got it at Walmart.
TOBIAS: see my post at 2:02, I noticed it too, and then Hank Sr. says “JUST for the drugs?, uh, nevermind..” Man, he shut his mouth real quick.
Maybe all LE has to do to find Haleigh is to keep recording Hank Sr. like Nancy says: “Hours upon Hours”
Wasnt Jeffery Griffis related to Chad? Maybe it was his uncle but I thought it was a brother. jmo
tobias,
Months ago I looked into trying to figure out whether or not the guy was related to Chad, and whether or not Sapp might have a connection to the case. It’s odd…everyone knows the name of every relative from Misty’s family, but nothing of the Griffis/Sheffield clan. And the answers that were coming were from the KP/Marie crew, so completely unreliable.
BTW, the reason I mention Sapp, is because Jeffrey Griffis’ wife was involved with/living with Sapp, and J. Griffis had an application for a restraining order against D. Sapp, for himself and children, which was not granted…and that happened shortly before his untimely death. Sapp lived very close to Haleigh’s home, and is back in jail for sexual molestation of a young girl.
Satsuma Pedestrian Hit, Transported Wednesday Night
Michelle Jacobs Created: 1/8/2009 6:24:57 AM Updated: 1/8/2009 6:32:36 AM Recommend Print ArticleEmail ArticleLargerSmaller
PALATKA, FL — One man was transported by lifeflight after being struck by a car on the Dunns Creek Bridge Wednesday night.
According to the Florida Highway Patrol, Jeffrey M. Griffis, 29, of Satsuma, was standing in the southbound lane of the Dunns Creek Bridge when he was struck by a car.
Benjamin D. Prewitt, 74, of Crescent City, was driving southbound on U.S. 17 on the Dunns Creek Bridge when he failed to see Griffis in the roadway.
Griffis was transported by lifeflight to Shands Gainesville. His condition is unknown.
Charges against Prewitt are pending.
This is the news item I was talking about above. jmo
wow u guys are soooo funny JB the crapinator LMBO.My head is so full of stuff i’m not even good with crap.i was constipated SO my sister says i’m full of sh%t…lol
I think the cops have the right ones particularly w/Misty & Ron, they simply have too much peace of mind that is evident in the Drug Sting videos. Even if what happened with Haleigh was tragic, they have a peace of mind that only comes from knowledge.
If they were telling the truth they would be living in fear and terror. They have “closure”.
I wonder if Misty got enough sleep to take the 4th LD test yet? I thought in the ball game three strikes and your out? Maybe in Mistys world its 4 since she is bad at math. jmo
Gotta go for the night see ya all tomorrow.
Dang I HOPE i CAN SLEEP WITHOUT DREAMING ABOUT THAT DARNED BRIDGE AGAIN.
I think we found he was some kin to Chad but not the brother and everything else me said was right about Sapp and stuff. I just wonder if he committed suicide. Why else be in the middle of the road at night? Chad’s brother is named Jeremy
me,the Sheffields have so many branches to their family tree, Sheffield, Padgett and Lauramore.
Seems like a harsh way to commit suicide. Just seemed hinky to me since it was on Jan. 7 2009 and references being made about bridges that Ron spoke to Amber about. jmo
lbradford:
Yes. They have closure, and there is no urgency and never has been any urgency about finding Haleigh. If that were my daughter, believe me, I would have been on those searches. Ron said on one search he went on with TES, that it made him feel like he was really out there looking for Haleigh.
I will be shocked if Misty takes another LDT. She would be really stupid to do that. But, who knows, maybe someone in jail has been giving her advice on how to beat a LDT, or she thinks the medication she is on will help her pass.
lynnybradford said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 6:52 pm *****************
And still no answers! Imo they neeed to look elsewhere!
Karon Cox said,in March 2nd, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Karon,even if she passed it,they’d still say she failed 3..wouldn’t that be something tho?
oh,lol no ne here,bbib
Question!! I just listened to the 1st Misty road rage on the MYFoxOrlando.com police blotter. Did anything ever come of this incident???
bac: I think the woman who they were harassing didn’t press charges. I’m not sure, though. I know Nancy Grace had the story on her site.
Thanks!! I remember that… also remember people thinking that it was a set-up.
bac: your welcome! Well, guess I’m going off to bed, Thanks to all of you for all of the great information, everyday I learn so much more. Goodnight all, sweet dreams and prayers for precious little Haleigh.
I will say a special prayer for all of you,too. YOU ARE ALL SUCH A WONDERFUL GROUP; your devotion, attention, hard work, and dedication for this beautiful little girl is so touching and inspiring. Goodnight!
CathyJoe:
They wouldn’t let it out, if she passed or not. Maybe, Misty is hoping she can convince LE or get another lawyer if she passed a LDT.
Goodnight!!
GoodNight Gang!!!
Goodnight Ronfan.
Still no word on the Misty PD, huh? Hmmmm seems strange to me,….
HGM:
Did you see NG last night?
Oh…Hi! No, anything good?
HGM:
I was thinking about that video of Misty and her Dad on NG where Misty is talking about taking another LDT. I thought, why would she do that? She has failed several, at least, I believe she has. I know she failed all those tests that TES helped her take. Then, it dawned on me that she may have given LE a statement, and they may have asked her to take a LDT to confirm her story. If she wants a deal with LE, she will have to prove it, Either that, or to get another lawyer.
Hi. There wasn’t that much good, but Misty is talking about taking another LDT. Tommy is putting the story out that some Mexican drug dealers may have taken her over a drug deal gone bad. He says one of the prisoners came up to him and told him that. He, also, said that Ronald had said something about that to him, also.
Good deduction Karon….I think you could be right!!!
You know what I think about A LOT….what are people gonna do….meaning, no matter who’s at fault, if it turns out they were on the “wrong side” & then discover that they were used & possibly helped a murderer get off or a lessor sentence via all the “reasonable doubt theories” that have been composed….for either side! Or that they helped to keep the guilty party(s) from being prosecuted sooner by the “other side’s” distractions.
While I can hardly wait to know for SURE what Happened to Haleigh…..I dread that day, cause HALF of us here will be CRUSHED!!!!
TC….distraction, slight of hand type stuff or maybe reaching at straws to hopefully get a better deal. IMO…that is
Everybody went to bed early tonight, apparently. I have been by several times, and nothing was going on. So I listened to Levi Page’s Sunday night show.
What do you think about TC’s statement(s)?
BUt in an odd similairity…in the Jaycee Duggard case there were witnesses making claims to BBC reporters that Garriddo had a backyard full of “mexicans” just about every weekend, drinkin beer and grillin. THe sickening part is they claim that they saw these men standing on line to go into one or more of the tents. They even stated they had wondered if it had been a “brothel” type senario. I posted a link to that article in Jaycee’s thread from Jan’s article. I wonder if it’s been disputed….Just came to mind for some reason…..
HGM:
The only thing that I hold fast to is that Misty and Ronald, both, know alot more than they are telling. I think Tommy and his wife know more than they are telling, too. It will take alot to shake me loose from Ron and MC knowing.
I guess it was the “Mexicans”, “prostitution/brothel”, and “stolen female child” connection….
HGM:
I wouldn’t be shocked to find out Garrido used those girls in that way. They may have supported the family.
Karon;
I have come to that conclusion myself….everyday I just wait for the “key” to fit the right “lock” and all of this debate about Haleigh and where she is to be over….then we can debate whether R & M were set-up or framed…..smacks self on forehead and walks away….
I think it was a Croslin trying to send us off on a bunnytrail.
Karon;
I have to say that I didn’t find it shocking either. I could even see him brainwashing them all into pretending it wasn’t happening or some bizarre cult type demands…..
Have you been following the Somer Thompson case?
What really gets to me is that everyone says the trust TJ and he’s the only honest reporter on this case but then totally ignore what he says on the shows….
I’ll gather actual quotes….
I study body language as a hobby, and I feel pretty sure MC and TC are lying and have been from the start. RC has been telling MC what to say from day 1. RC is a pathetic liar.
Yes, some…. That guy from Miss. the one?
Karon;
I too am interested in such things….lanuage analysis based upon word useage and sentence structure including the use of past-tenses. Micro-expressions…and my all time fav….body language. I had a fav course in college that was Interpersonal Relationships 101….What an eye-opener!!! We learned a lot of phsycological
stuff. Personal space and boundaries based upon one’s relationship to another. I can tell you from across a room what level 2 people’s relationship is….LOL! I love that kind of stuff….
HGM:
I don’t know, but I would look closer to home.
Shall we discuss specifics??? I’m game!
Karon….You too?….I’ve thought that myself…a lot!!!
Diena doesn’t act like any grieving mother to me. In fact, she has a peaceful glow about her, no urgency to find her daughter’s killer, doesn’t show any fear, really for her other children, seems to be enoying all of the attention, wants to get rid of all her daughter’s belongings, criticized the lock of Somer’s hair she was given, keeps smiling when she talks about her daughter’s killer/now, all of a sudden, after Harrel’s arrest, she won’t make an appearance. Why?
Diena appeared on camera, I think it was two days, after her daughter’s funeral/now, nothing. This is just downright out of character.
Karon…I got “punched” a few times on day one for having doubts about that case….I just stopped talking about it. The day’s “events” just seemed to coincidental….Dienda just happened to have lunch with her “friend” at home that day? Her friend was there to pick up the kids that specific day even though it wasn’t the norm, as specified by her. The father’s statements about his fears that “something like this would happen”. Dienda’s warning from school officials about the dangers of her children walking home alone went unheeded even after the kids had been found in the woods with a stranger? Some hink there….I just know it…
That case was another reason I had started talking about mandatory drug testing of parents of missing children. I think the lunch that day was for sex or drug usage, but JMO JMO JMO!!!
LOL! I know I’m gonna get “roughed up” for this by daylight!
I love studying that stuff, and I read people pretty well. Even over the phone, I pick up on alot of things other people miss.
That first NG interview and Greta Van Susteren interview RC and MC gave were telling. RC just loves all of his game playing. Yes, Miss Nancy, I wouldn’t want to lie to you Miss Nancy. Baloney!!!!!!! He has no more urgency about him in finding Haleigh than MC does.
I agree….
Yeah, but we are entitled to our opinions. It is better posting at night, because every statement isn’t given the third degree to the point you can’t even think of what really may have happened. Just tossing around ideas the way we do at night and alot of things just start coming more clear.
But ya never know whos lurking,GoodNight ladies.
When you start talking about the idea that parents may have harmed their children, people don’t really want to believe that. If they had good, loving parents, alot of people can’t see parents in any other light.
I don’t know that in either case we are talking about, the parents, actually, killed their children. I just think, in both cases, they know more than they are saying. Something is off within the parental feelings in both cases.
Lurkers are a given….LOL Anytime you have a website that has from 5-1 up to 10-1 posters per readers…..LOL!, you KNOW there are lurkers.
Goodnight Willie.
Oppps….I meant 5-1 readers per posters up to 10-1 readers per posters.
SO no post as to your own feelings about either case, willie????
HGM:
Diena has gone quiet and so has MC and RC and TC, so we will see what happens next.
Drugs may play a large part in both cases, but it doesn’t explain evrything.
Oh…I agree!!!
HGM:
Aren’t you from FL.? I lived there back in the early and middle 90’s for awhile and, at that time, I would have been afraid to let a young child out alone to walk home from school, everyday. Tthe babysitter said Somer disappeared for short periods, regularly. Things maybe better there, now, I don’t know, but the news from Fl doesn’t sound like it.
I often think that people with even a small thing to hide, are more vulnerable because of their fears about being honest with LE about that thing (Examples: drug use or enemy due to criminal activity) These issues could prevent the truth from being found or at least being found in a more timely manner. IF there WAS any truth to the “Mexicans” theory, then it would be Ron’s fault they weren’t caught or caught sooner because he lied to LE about any drug issues. KWIM?
That’s right. When the parents are into anything illegal, they can’t be honest. I don’t think RC’s drug pushing just stated. He knew what kind of prison term he would face if LE found out.
I haven’t really been able to quite believe that RC, MC, and TC are going away for very long. I don’t know why. Maybe, because RC has been let go so many times before. He seems to have some special ties in Satsuma, somehow.
Yes, I’m a Floridian….I live about 5 hours West of Jax via I-10….Even here, in a much smaller town, we wouldn’t dare. I have a firend, a younger guy, who lived there in Jax, in that neighborhood, just 18 month ago and he said it was a drug filled neighborhood, lot’s of doers & dealers. Definately NOT a street/area to let kids walk home alone on! He was from that neighborhood!!! I’ve said in the past that I know some nefarious characters. This guy had been “in the life” if you will. He was a runner then and knew some stuff…not about the Thompson’s personally, but a lot about the particluar streets & area and what it is like there.
Karon, I agree…the drug charges aren’t gonna go that far, especially for him. Maybe some time but not long.
Starnge things you learn while standing about in the courthouse…LOL! I accompanied my BF to court today as he has to go due to a no insurance ticket….big criminal, LOL! Anyway, there were too many people there to actually stand before the judge for any friends or relatives to be inside the courtroom so I had to wait outside in the corridor. While there I overheard a very disconcerting yet interesting conversation one female was having with a male friend/aquiantence. She was going on and on about how she & her BF were “popped” for trafficking! Whoa! Did she just say that? I was bored so I thought I’d listen for anything of value towards this case……
The pro-Ron/anti-Crystal camp have been very big on the idea of corruption in the PCSO. While those leaning towards the Ron & Misty are the culprits idea have been pointing out that it sure looks like Ron must have “friends in high places.” You’ve got to wonder if the second scenario isn’t much more likely but maybe things have changed now. Just an idea.
I hope I am wrong and will be thankful, if none of the parents know what happened or caused it in anyway.
I know Diena has told several things that weren’t true.
Did you see the last GMA interview that Diena was on where Chris Cuomo interviewed her? He asked her some hard questions.
I mean they obviously didn’t care who heard…so I just stood an listened. In full detail she talks about her “take-down” as well as his, the BF, which happened simultainously, in view of one another….SHe had gotten stopped on a traffic violation with the drugs inside the car. Meanwhile her BF is driving another vehicle with 3 kids in tow. When she is stopped , long story short she gets caught. BF instead of proceeding to their home and leaving kids with her mom, circles back and passes. Just as he passes the officers they pull him over and have guns drawn and at the ready…she starts freaking and screaming about her 3 kids in the car and for them to put their guns away. (Personally, if people wouldn’t buy,sell, or transport with thir kids in the car, they wouldn’t have to worry about this, but I digress) So with F-bomb dropping about every minute, she continues the tale. They both go to jail…she sits for 6 weeks before bailed out. LE tells her, ON SCENE, just tell us it is his and you walk away free & clear!!! She refuses. Leaves her kids in her mom’s care, against the mother’s wishes, for 6 weeks to protect her lover. Ain’t that sweet! So on & on she keeps talking…the interesting part is where she starts talking about how she & he slipped notes back and forth to one another INSIDE lock-up via….CHURCH! They would leave notes for on another inside hymnals or left behind Bibles. Makes you start to wonder about MIsty & Ron’s church and Bible habits, huh? THen when I get home my oldest nephew tells me about an early memorie of his young childhood when his crakc-headed mother took him & his 2 younger brothers to see her twisted boyfriend in jail/prison. She had left my bro and got hooked up with a junkie and became one herself. So anyway, she’s visiting said junkie in lock-up and stuffed pot down her son’s (all 3 of them) diapers until inside, then she’d take them to the bathroom and then stuff the “loaded” diaper up under the sink where the junkie BF would later retrieve as he was a custodian there and cleaned those bathrooms or had partnered with someone who did. My nephew said to me “The worst part about it is knowing she USED US to do it!” Want more????
Alethea:
I am wondering about that, myself. It is just too quiet, all of a sudden, right after MC’s dad got worried about what MC was going to tell on TC.
HGM:
Yeah. shoot. I have to hear the end of it.
Karon, no I didn’t….can you link me?
Also the traffikers in previous story….she got 6 months! On a sentence that should have been 10 yrs. She even mentioned getting charged with the baggie on a seperate paraphanalia charge…..he aquaintence admitted he had been popped not to long ago for the same chage and had been looking at 27 years!!! Yet there they both stood! The 27 yr guy got off of all charges on a technicality! All of this discussion going on with a county officer standing and listening not 10 feet away, but never said a word to them, not even about the F-bombs. It’s a weird weird world. The chick even kept syaing how she could have beat it, beat the charges all together if she had just thought sooner, and she DIDN’T mean the thing about giving up her boyfriend as owning the drugs.
Lady got 6 weeks inside, 10 yrs probation, and lost her DL in AL for 6 months. She was pizzed that FL suspended them for 2 yrs! LOL! Go FL!!!
Her incarcerated boyfriend is due to be released sometime next yr…..
So no, I don’t think R&M & co will do that much time for the pills…..maybe Misty looking at longer due to so many but all it take is one false move by LE during that sting to end the whole thing.
Yhat interview is on News Runner under Diena Thompson. I think all of her interviews are on there. The GMA interview is the one where she got her hair cut. I’ll have to check to see the name of the tape. It may say something like mother wants killer to die.
I suppose the prisons would be too full if they sent everyone up for pushing drugs for the full amount of time. They have people going to prison only at night or only on the week-ends, now.
LE may stick to their guns about sending them away for a long time, if they don’t give something up about Haleigh.
Yeah, and MC could get a little leniency, because this is her first offence, if she gives them what they want.
Do you ever look under News Runner for videos? I just goodle in Diena Thompson-News Runner.
Correction: google
I sure hope so…
Yea doing week-ends is big around here. Then there’s the work release guys get picked up by “friendly” employers daily and taken to job sites where drugs are prevelant, are allowed to secretly leave and go meet thier gals for some afternoon “delight”, then returned to the jail that afternoon. So much deception & trickery….it’s sickening!
They are supposed to be cracking down on drugs in Fl. They won’t if they keep letting people off that easy.
I can even tell you stories I’ve been told of how guys out picking up trash on the hwys have their friends/lovers throw bags of dope out of car windows so they can pick it up and transport it in. Women who’ve thrown bags of dope on JAIL property, so inmate on clean-up detail can bring in….
I have tried Newsrunner but I think I must be doing something wrong cause I’m not getting the results others are…help! LOL!
I suppose so many people are into drugs, anymore. Some people just get completely whacked out when they start taking some of that stuff, and it sets their kids up for all kinds of bad things to happen.
I’ll try it, and see what’s up.
It is on there. Do you have Google?
Just type in the name-News Runner
Diena Thompson-News Runner
The name on the tape is closing in on Somer Thompson’s killer.
You can find alot of MC’s and RC’s videos on News-Runner, too.
Thanks Kaorn…I got it…I had been trying o search from the NewsRunner website search bar but was getting different stuff. I tried the google search and found it right away! YEAH!!!
I usually check Firstcoast News and News4Jax everyday for news on the Cummings’ and Thompson cases.
Now you’re cooking!
I am going to have to get some sleep. Maybe, you will have a chance to watch that video.
Have a good night or morning, however you want to look at it. Maybe we will get some more news on our cases in the morning.
See you again soon….Glad to have you to talk with tonight……I almost didn’t post due to yesterdays fiasco & morning comments, 😉
Good night!
I missed the comments. Don’t ever look back, I say. LOL Good night. I enjoyed it.
Good morning, Everyone!
Karon, @ your 4:56am – I prefer the philosophy of “look back, learn, and then move forward.”
(I know you probably do too. You were just kind of “quipping” for a different purpose.)
HollyG and Karon enjoyed reading your overnight thoughts.
Karon, I too have not yet been able to clear Ron in my mind. Misty I have always believed to know something. It bothers me to think Ron could have info and be involved his Haleighs disappearance. I hope he is not. Children unconditionaly love their parents and to find out he was involved would be crushing.
I watched the video of Diena Thompson. I am not a professional as far as body language or word usage. What I saw was a woman who has turned her grief into rage and when they charge that individual with Somers murder they will feel her wrath. I believe she will demand the death penalty and nothing less. I agree with her. I believe she has a long way to go to find the closure she so desperately needs.
Lets say there was a drug deal gone bad with the Crescent City mexicans. Why would Ron nor Misty not tell LE right away. If this were to be the case would there have been be charges brought against Ron? If Haleigh had been murdered due to Rons connection would he receive a stiffer charge due to a childs death in connection with a felony? Could this be a reason to cover- up Haleighs disappearance due to prison and losing custody of Jr.?
Goodmorning m2c.
Hi, looking for Justice! You’re asking some difficult questions. I think LE would put finding the child first. But they can only do that after the parent has reported it. After that, there’d have to be some proof (evidence) of his dealing drugs to take him to court on. And whether LE would want to do that might depend on how things had turned out with the child.
If there isn’t such actual evidence of drug dealing then LE probably couldn’t press charges on that – or wouldn’t.
But yes it all depends on whether the parent/drug dealer would report what really happened and why. If the parent was more worried about losing custody of the other child or possibly going to jail for drugs then I guess he/she would not report the truth about it. All depends on the parent.
looking for Justice – Which video of Diena Thompson are you all talking about? I saw several but not sure the right one. TIA
The one on News Runner. I believe the story headline is police closing in on Somer Thompsons murderer.
m2c I realize they are hard questions. This is what I do. I try to put myself mentally in their position. I guess I think about it really hard and this is how I come up with these questions.
Tobias has me thinking about the Dunns Creek Bridge. I drive over to Palatka all the time. I usually drive up from HWY 92 and get on HWY17 it is a straight shot. I go over the bridge all the time. I am not sure if the old bridge is still there or not. I will tell you HWY 17 is pitch dark and desolute. Quite eerie. I do not like driving it after dark. I will try to pay closer attention the next time I go over that bridge or look for some kind of access to the old one if it is still there.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/20436810/detail.html
Does anyone remember this article? I am paticular interested with the comment “Misty has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late eavening and early morning of HaLeighs disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contridicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evening events.”
Looking for Justice @ 8:34 – The answers to your questions lie in what kind of person R is. If he thought or knew that Haleigh was taken because of some drug dealing of his, what would he do about it? Would he report it regardless of the possible fall-out on himself?
You will get different answers to those questions from different people here.
Then you have to ask yourself whether M had first-hand knowledge that that’s what happened – or why else would she either support R or protect herself or just plain not know? And again you’ll get different answers from different people here.
My understanding is Tommy came by that afternoon with his children and was there when the a/c man stopped by and neighbors did say they saw the children outside playing and GGMS states she saw the kids eating so the only activities that are not confirmed by a eye witness aside from Jr is the sleeping arrangements, the movies played and the laundry that was or was not done. I have also wondered about the evidence that Tommy would of left behind that eavening when he stopped by and banged on the door and looked in the window. Would Misty have known that Tommy came by the house that night? My question is would Misty be able to account for any evidence left behind by the abductor if Misty was asleep?
Anyone know the song by Anne Murray, Sure could use a little good news today? I can! Last night I was watching the 11pm news and the breaking headlines were a baby was kidnapped in Jacksonville, Fl by a person posing as a DCF worker. It was updated this morning police did find the baby and returned the child back to his parents and the poser is incarcerated. There was good news there.
Then there was a young girl, a cashier at a Publix in Orlando,Fl in her late teens early twenties. A store full of people! A guy got in her line and when he reached her he shot her in the head and then ran out of the store. He was met by an officer patrolling the parking lot and was told to get down on the ground. the guy killed himself right there. I have not heard an update this morning on the young girl but they said she was in very critical condition. I pray for her. LE thinks it is domestic. You know that girl probably felt she was safe at work especially with so many people around. I guess this is no longer the case.
My other question is if LE has had this physical evidence that suggests more took place that evening and such a unreliable accounting of events that night from the last person to have seen HaLeigh, what has kept them from charging her.
Does anyone truly believe she will suddenly chose to confess to a crime she possible committed against HaLeigh or allowed, to get out of the current charges of drug trafficking?
I should of said Good Morning sorry. I have been up for a while this morn.
Did I say something wrong and run y’all off?
good morning everyone, looking for justice…I love that song by ann murry, and you are so right. We could all use alittle good news today. The song is very fitting! When I came to the haleigh cummings site and saw that there were videos…well I was disapointed to see that they were old. when in the world are we gonna’ get some new information? I know that LE is working very hard but Man, it would be nice to get something new to nibble on! I will be in and out today…checking back and such…just getting frustrated, i guess.
I remember reading on article on examiner.com by Cindy Adams that the evidence found outside the home cotridicted Mistys story. I will go find the link.
Did you peeps watch Diane Sawyer on the evening news last night? She was covering the Chelsea King case and was talking about the national public outcry over SOs getting such light sentences if at all, someone is finally listening to us! I encourage you to contact your elected officials via email, mail, petition, whatever it takes to get the laws for these scumbags changed, made stronger, keep them in jail, no bail allowed while they are waiting for trial, etc. DO SOMETHING, THEY ARE LISTENING, and Chelsea’s case will bring it all to the forefront, IMO
HGM,
Very interesting story last night. I doubt Ron and misty are passing notes in Bible study as the pastor comes to her and they are in 2 totally different facilities.
I found it but it was not Cindy Adams that wrote the article.
http://www.examiner.com/x-7403-Tampa-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d7-Police-say-Haleigh-Cummings-not-kidnapped-by-a-stranger-and-Misty-Croslins-911-call-video
Sorry had to step away for a minute. I thought about the theory of Tommy being there that afternoon and possibly unlocking the back door. Then I thought sure LE would of dusted that lock for prints inside and out. Did they find a print on the inside lock? If someone used gloves would it smudge any prints already there? Does gloves smudge prints? I was thinking that LE knows who unlocked the back door last.
I watched NG last night cover the Chelsea King case. Sad so sad. I went to bed last night wondering what is it that needs to be done to protect our children. It will take a mighty force to succed at changing the laws and a system that will throw the book at drug trafficing but not a child molester/killer MONSTER!
Someone mentioned a Freudian slip earlier, supposedly by MG. I couldn’t find what was referred to, though.
However, speaking of statements that look like Freudian slips, this certainly appears to be one (made by RC to Geraldo):
“I’m always gonna believe that my daughter’s alive until they find her.”
DramaQueen I watched it on Nancy Grace. You are right!! Why was he out free to strike again. They stated he could also be responsible for the young girl Amber Dubouis gone missing. This needs to stop!! I personally have signed every petition there is out there. We have to continue to send strong messages!!
I know Alethea,it is clear the parents hae sent out mixed signals from the begining. I am still hung up on Crystal and Maries interview. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E32-t1uLY_M
methinks I am feeling frustrated as well. I seem to be grasping every little detail and rehashing it over and over again.
you know I was also thinking the UC may have been introduced to Misty through Charles Jones Jr. during the time she was staying out there with his family. On the Levi Page Show CJ said he had talked with detectives numerous times. He said he felt if he could get close too Misty maybe she would open up about that night Haleigh vanished. Perhaps CJ knew Misty was selling and tipped off LE and this began their investigation. I also believe Misty may have confided some info to CJ and he is the one that possibly gave the new info to LE. I am thinking this way because it did not take long to get Misty and the others locked up after the road rage incident.jmo. any thoughts on this?
When RC made the statement that the beds were made when he got home from work?
Don’t forget that while you are discussing theories.
I have to use some common sence when looking at second hand information such as that and I would have to reason LE would of revealed that piece of info from the very first day and this investigation would of went in a totaly different direction if it where true. JMO
I totally agree with changing the laws and enforcing longer sentences for SOs the FIRST time they commit such a crime!
But in two cases we know about another aspect has become apparent. One of the reasons that the prosecutors went for the lower sentence in the first case against Chelsea King’s accused killer is so that the 13(?) year old victim did not have to testify.
That is also an issue, I believe, in the case against the SO that Cobra arrested so briefly (Sapp, right?) That case has dragged on for at least two years and if it ever comes to trial one or two young girls will have to testify.
That HAS to be more than traumatic. It’s like victimizing the victim all over again.
I think some OTHER ways of having CHILDREN testify need to be established and accepted.
For example, have the child in a comfortable room with an advocate/lawyer of her own, and the defense attorney and prosecutor(or one at a time) and the judge.
The jury and definitely the accused would watch it live on camera.
Whatever can be worked out to spare the child more pain and yet ensure justice but we should not be forced by that – wanting to protect a child – into giving SOs lighter sentences and thereby putting other children at risk.
Anyone remember why not join the disscusion. I am sure we would love to chat with you as well.
I am not sure when Ron made that statement. I believe LE made Ron aware that the beds were made, even Ron the first couple of days after Haleigh vanished said they were all sleeping in the same bed.
I’ll be back later. I like this site. Good folks who seem to think before they post.
I guess since we have not way of confirming that piece of information at this time and the fact that it was not a viable piece of evidence to purseude LE to not consider this an abduction/kidnapping within the first 24 hrs. I would think that it would of directed LE to look at Misty tyhat first day with such a bold face lie “we where asleep and I woke up and Haleigh was gone”
Heck I need spell check before I post. LOL
Teaxasmommy, I agree. LE knew then Misty was lying. They knew then that’s why all the pressure is on her.
So you think they have known since day one that she is involved and have applying pressure for her confession? If this is true and we are witnessing LE tactics of getting her behind bars with these UC sting drug busts and expecting her to be scared enough facing 120 + years to confess all she knows about HaLeighs abduction if she was involved?
I do not see that happening, but, she could be protecting someone and that is what LE believe than it has to be Ron or Tommy that they believe committed the crime. I am 100% sure that Ron did go to work and worked his shift that evening with overtime and has been cleared as a suspect by LE as well as Crystal. 3-2=1 Tommy
Tommy has placed himself at the trailer that night and I do believe it needs a closer look before we can completely understand LE motives at this point.
If Misty is covering for her brother I have to ask what would be the logical conclusion of the events of that evening that led up to this event.Where would or could they of concealed HaLeigh and be available for LE at 4 am that morning. I would like to know how the Croslins have gotten away with this crime and cover up ( with there combined brain cells) for over a year?
Texasmommy39 said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 11:13 am So you think they have known since day one that she is involved and have applying pressure for her confession? If this is true and we are witnessing LE tactics of getting her behind bars with these UC sting drug busts and expecting her to be scared enough facing 120 + years to confess all she knows about HaLeighs abduction if she was involved?
I do not see that happening, but, she could be protecting someone ….
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You have I think exactly put your finger on it.
Hey… morning Gang!
I tend to think that because Tommy placed himself there at the MH, he had nothing to do with HaLeigh’s disappearance. I think that IF LE didn’t know this info in the beginning, Tommy only revealed it because he knew “someone” was going to, and “they” were going to do/did so at the time he was questioned.
While catching up I read the one about the traficking charges. There are different charges for trafficking. One is when someone gets caught with a certain amount it is an automatic trafficking charge. One other is when some one is caught in the process of a sell of a trafficking amount( Which is what M,T,R,D,andH) the charges are different. Thats why some people get small sentences or probation. One person lately in Putnam was charged with the same thing R and M face, Jerome Williams. It also makes a difference in the drug Mariguana, cocain,or pharmacuticals.jmo
I should have added, the only other possibility I can see is that she is actually the prime suspect and they don’t think they will be able to get the last piece of the puzzle–or prove it–or, they think they may be able to in time but are not sure and in the meantime at least she is behind bars. Regardless, M & R’s not being able to communicate with each other is probably a big plus in LE’s view.
In my opinion.
Althea, The part where you said Misty and Ron being seperated being good in LEs eyes is why I feel he knows something or is hiding something. I f he is not suspected of something by LE Misty would be in Putnam and not in St. Johns. jmo
Texasmommy, I guess you are addressing me. Yes, I do believe LE felt Misty had knowledge of exactly what happened that night Haleigh vanished. That is why they continously interrogated her over and over again. I will go back and find the article where I read Misty was given 2 LDTs in the first four weeks. I imagine one was from Putnam and the other FBI. I did not say they thought Misty hurt Haleigh, but knew she was lying about what happened that night.
About the sting and the UC. If it was CJ that tipped off LE they may knew even Ron was involved. We only see Ron I believe in three stings. Where did the other two counts come from? Ron may have been directing Misty by phone. He waited to see if it was a set up and when he got comfortable he came in out of the shadows. He began controlling the deals in person. It first appeared that Misty was the ring leader, but now I think Ron was the whole time.
Yes Tommy did put himself at the mh that night, but you must remember there was a call from Ron to Tommy about Mistys whereabouts. LE has confirmed this call. Now was it for the reason they say? I do not know. I just think if Haleigh woke up to find uncle Tommy in the home he would just say your dad was worried and had me come check on you all.
I do believe LE is looking very close at Tommy. Misty has thrown Tommy under the bus every chance she gets along with her mom and dad and Cousin Joe. Misty has yet to throw Timmy or Ron under the bus. In fact she says on the part 2 of the voice stress that if the family got separated when they were younger She and Timmy would always be together and Timmy was Rons favorite in her family. I do not know if Timmy could be involved or not. All I know is Misty has yet to roll on Tim or Ron.
OK…. Tommy placed himself at the trailer after 10 pm and Misty claims she went to sleep at around the same time. So do you believe Misty was aware that Ron was working late that night and knew they would have more than 2 hrs to hide HaLeighs body?
I agree with cent about Tommy and his admission, but, am open to suggestions that would make sence of LE’s Tatics if Tommy and Misty are inocent and Ron has been cleared, who would LE think they allowed to take HaLeigh and get away with it for so long?
LE did not arrest and charge Tommy when Misty threw him under the bus in the beginning. LE did not charge him while he was incarcerated and admitted to being at the trailer that night and he is now only facing three years on the current charges,so no real threat of prison. Doesn’t seem to me that Tommy is LE POI
It was released that Ron called Tommy at 9pm and he was suppose to have been at the mh between 9:30 and 9:45. Mistys phone was said to be turned off at 8:30pm. Ron was reported to have arrived home at 3:24 and 911 was called at 3:27am. They had more than two hours to hide a body if that was the case before Ron got home. We still do not have a confirmed work schedule for Ron. This I find strange because if he is not considered a suspect and this is his alibi for the night Haleigh vanished then why not confirm it especially since it has been more than a year.
B*A – OR…Tommy could have come clean about his visit to the MH that night because he was afraid someone else was going to rat him out and he wanted HIS version out there. I don’t know why he wouldn’t have told them in the beginning if he had nothing to do with Haleigh’s disappearance or didn’t know anything about it. But if a year later someone confronted him or threatened him and said they KNEW he was there and they were going to tell LE, then he might have thought he better tell them first and CYA….I don’t know which it is…He could have been reluctant to tell them because he really didn’t have anything to do with it and didn’t want them looking at him as a suspect. Nothing these people do is rational so it is hard to figure why they do anything they do or why they do it when they do it. NOTHING MAKES SENSE with these weasels! LOL
looking for Justice:
It is very clear that LE is NOT and has never intended to release much if any information. Why on earth would they take the time or bother to publicly confirm anyone’s work hours or whereabouts? Just because we nosey bloggers want to know? It’s LE’s job to solve this case. Not ours.
LE is (hopefully) doing their job. It may suit their purpose to leave some things (and particularly R’s work hours) unclear. It may suit their purpose to pretend to know or appear to not know for sure about his work hours.
In other words I do not see any benefit FOR LE to confirm R’s work hours publicly. I can see lots of possible reasons for them not to – up to and including just making us more frustrated and having to wait! (lol!)
Hi, JB! You said, “I don’t know why he wouldn’t have told them in the beginning if he had nothing to do with Haleigh’s disappearance or didn’t know anything about it.”
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One reason is because he places himself at the scene. And another reason is that he’s basically calling his sister a liar. He says no one was home – or at least no one answered him when he called out and banged on the door.
But M says she was there the whole night.
So there are two reasons – one benefitting himself and one was to avoid implicating his sister.
m2c I find it odd. why release certain work hours and then his lawyers work hours are different than originaly reported? Why is it they cannot confirm the correct work hours that were reported to us already made public?
Anyone Remember said,
in March 3rd, 2010 at 10:32 am
When RC made the statement that the beds were made when he got home from work?
Don’t forget that while you are discussing theories.
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can you point me in the direction of where Ron said that himself? I have not heard that from anyone except Tim Miller.
m2c♥ said,
in March 3rd, 2010 at 1:07 pm
looking for Justice:
It is very clear that LE is NOT and has never intended to release much if any information. Why on earth would they take the time or bother to publicly confirm anyone’s work hours or whereabouts? Just because we nosey bloggers want to know? It’s LE’s job to solve this case. Not ours.
LE is (hopefully) doing their job. It may suit their purpose to leave some things (and particularly R’s work hours) unclear. It may suit their purpose to pretend to know or appear to not know for sure about his work hours.
In other words I do not see any benefit FOR LE to confirm R’s work hours publicly. I can see lots of possible reasons for them not to – up to and including just making us more frustrated and having to wait! (lol!)
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Hell, even the paid media consultant, Art, said Ron worked his whole shift and LE had said numerous times they are satisfied with his work hours. He worked till 3 AM and was seen on video at a store on his way home.
looking for Justice: I don’t know exactly what quotes you are referring to from LE or from the lawyer. I remember the lawyer talking about Ron’s USUAL work hours but saying that he was later that day (did not get to work as early as usual). If there are more definite or precise statements from either LE or the lawyer, please let me know.
But the point I am trying to get across to you is WHY SHOULD LE confirm anything? What you are asking them to do is tell you that for sure they know R was at work 100% of the time that night.
They may not be ready to make that info public, they may be confirming that, they may not care what information the public has UNLESS it serves their own purpose.
Why not, you ask? I ask, “Why the heyall, they SHOULD???” Do you think LE gives a dang what info we snoopy bloggers have to work on our stupid little theories? I don’t.
I just can not put the pieces together to fit the theory that Ron, Misty or Tommy did anything to HaLeigh.
The fact that Misty told LE that she believed that her cousin Joe could of commited the crime and the fact that Tommy had been acting weird after Haleighs abduction doesn’t sit well with the theory she is covering for her family and as much as the Croslins seem to still love each other is a contridiction to the theory that she was covering for someone else and giving up her family to protect this unknow abductor.
looking for Justice said,
in March 3rd, 2010 at 12:05 pm
It was released that Ron called Tommy at 9pm and he was suppose to have been at the mh between 9:30 and 9:45. Mistys phone was said to be turned off at 8:30pm. Ron was reported to have arrived home at 3:24 and 911 was called at 3:27am. They had more than two hours to hide a body if that was the case before Ron got home. We still do not have a confirmed work schedule for Ron. This I find strange because if he is not considered a suspect and this is his alibi for the night Haleigh vanished then why not confirm it especially since it has been more than a year.
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I guess the same reason they haven’t released where Crystal was that night or where Chad was till he got home at almost 5 AM. they haven’t released much in this case at all.
No m2c Rons lawyers say Ron worked 5pm to 3am. TJ reported Ron work hours for 4pm to 3am as well as Art Harris also reported the same hours as TJ. PDM actual work hours are 3:30pm to 2am. Now we the public know these hours for Rons alleged work schedule. I just would like to know which is correct?
That’s right, Vaquera.
Looking for Justice – Is that info not enough for you for some reason? I’m just not understanding where you are coming from on this.
Have to run a few errands. BBL
I truely believe if they would look beyond Misty, Ron and Tommy they will discover who realy came into that home that night and walked right out with HaLeigh. I have a hard time with Chad Griffis albi that night and why Crystal reacted the way she did after finding out at 3:49 that morning that HaLeigh was missing. If I was alone and was awaken by a phone call such as that I would of been taking action imedeatly, but, Crystal chose to wait and call her mom and dad till after 5 am in the morning.
I find it also interesting that Marie stated Chad was home that night in a interview. I guess that is part of the misinformation that was going on that Sherrif Hardy spoke of. Why would she not know that Monday night was his bachlor party? By the way who parties on a Monday night till 5 am in the morning?
I also wonder why LE would release these video’s of Misty and Tommy when they continue to proclaim their innocence in the HaLeigh case but admit their guilt in the drug charges.
Well the bachelor party came out many months after the fact. I heard very early on he was out and was seen at 4:45 AM getting gas but it wasn’t a bachelor party he was at, that’s for sure. LOL
Maybe Crystal waited till 5 because she didn’t want to have to explain to Marie where Chad was all night. I would have been out the door and on the road by 4AM, but that’s just me
Thats my point Vaquera.;)
I’m still confused about where Crystal was that night. I’ve heard she was in Georgia. I have no idea.
Texasmommy – I think the videos are released for one of two reasons. One is that the videos may be evidence, part of discovery that is actually being “released” to the defense as part of the drug charges. When that happens then the Sunshine Law kicks in and copies of the videos can be requested (like by media).
The other is – if the videos have nothing to do with the drug case, but are public record, then I guess they are available to media upon request too.
The ONLY charges against these people are the drug charges. There are no charges against anyone regarding Haleigh’s disappearance.
One clarification – when I said, “if the videos have nothing to do with the drug case” I meant if the state does not plan to use them as evidence in that case. Then I guess the tapes are still public record and media can request them.
Vaquera do you think that LE is not as dumb as we precieve them to be? LOL I for one believe they will solve this very soon. I hope Maries enjoying her vacation.
I hope so TM39, but sadly I don’t feel that way. I think they were over their head just like Boulder PD and messed up the case very early on or some of them are corrupt as hell and are covering up for one of their own, even though he’s ex PCSO.
m2c♥ said,
in March 3rd, 2010 at 1:58 pm
I’m still confused about where Crystal was that night. I’ve heard she was in Georgia. I have no idea.
Texasmommy – I think the videos are released for one of two reasons. One is that the videos may be evidence, part of discovery that is actually being “released” to the defense as part of the drug charges. When that happens then the Sunshine Law kicks in and copies of the videos can be requested (like by media).
The other is – if the videos have nothing to do with the drug case, but are public record, then I guess they are available to media upon request too.
The ONLY charges against these people are the drug charges. There are no charges against anyone regarding Haleigh’s disappearance.
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the press got the tapes before the attorneys did even though they had requested them.
m2c I know LE has not charged them the public has. I know I am knew here but not to this case, and have ran through all the theories to be had and have hung my head with the obvious misinformation still being discussed as facts to fuel most of these theories. The logical conclusion has become harder and harder to reach when the facts are hidden behind all the falsified facts out there, such as Haleigh did not go to school that day, Ron did not pick HaLeigh up at the bus stop, Haleigh was killed by Ron before he went to work, I could continue, but, you get the point. Why all the misinformation??? It was not given to find HaLeigh …. it was given to keep her hidden!
I loved that Haleigh bug head quarters was a place to call in tips. How where those tips handled? was Crystal allowed to see those tips or hear about them as they came in? I wondered how productive where those tips if they where passed on to LE to investigate… what an opportunity.
They will not get away with it Vaquera. The good guys will never give up to expose the truth. Many wil be a thorn in this investigation if Haleigh is not returned.
Maybe some of that politican that TJ mentioned will be a deciding factor if there is coruption involved within the PCSO.
I guess you guy where not lying when you said this is a great place to share your opinion, but, you failed to mention that no one would talk to you if you do. LOL No worries I have been lonly before with my logic on this case.
Does anyone else find it odd that Rons lawyer went on NG ? Was that an attempt to defend his client? Guess it is a good show to go on since she defends him so much. jmo
Sorry Texas, I didnt see your posts,guess everyone has gone out to lunch? jmo
I need to rewatch that show I do not remember the details do you have a link?
Tex, I would be glad if she were hidden somewhere, but it is a long time to hide a child where no one would see her. And what would be the plan for her to resurface? I dont mean to put a damper on anyones theory but it just doesnt work for me. How would they get in the door and not be seen? How would they know she wouldnt make noise and wake Misty? Why leave Junior? How would they know Junior wouldnt wake up? See all the questions in that theory? Thats why it never worked for me. jmo
You tube has it.
I found it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElxbHsO8VP0
Let me review. LOL
What has you thinking its odd he was on NG?
The time line also doesnt work for it. Tommy being there at around 10. And getting no answer, surely the kids would have heard him and woke up. Junior would have remembered that bit of info. Unless he is lying ,the kids were drugged, or they werent there. jmo
or Tommy lied about the time he was there since supposedly Lindsy didn’t get home till around 10 or 10:30. I think he was there around 11 or after myself. Maybe Tommy also lied about banging on the door
hey guys,gotta catch up!
Karon Cox said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 12:02 am
Right,Gotcha,sometimes my brain don’t work right,errrr what brain!
I have to go back and check to see if thats when they gave him a ldt.jmo
I have to respond with my reasoning and not the drug adled brain these people involved are working with so I do not believe you or I would think as these individuals do or would. It is my opinion that the persons, no matter who it was that commited this crime where not concerned about being seen by anyone. I would assume they removed her form the bed and quickly out of the room and i would expect out the back door that was propped, the only thing is that the evidence sugest a brief stay in the home after Haleigh was removed from the bed, hence the kitchen light turned on and Haleighs clothes removed and left behind.
I have heard this question a hundred times and the logical reason I can give is if both children where abducted It would look automaticaly like a parental abduction no matter if Crystal sat under there nose with no Haleigh or Jr.. The timing of both childrens abduction would of been seen as motive due to the pending court date. She had no fear that her plan would enable her to get custody of Jr. so no need of taking him that night. Crystal could very well live the rest of Haleighs childhood life without seeing her to get out of paying childsupport to Ronald Cummings and her babies will not be living with him. In my opinon a mother will do what ever it takes, and I am not just meaning Crystal, she’s just a cub, its Marie that is the lioness on the prowle IMO. Marie is protecting Crystal.
Hi all, interesting discussion!
Let’s say, for the sake of argument, that Misty was not involved in Haleigh’s disappearance. I believe she was not honest with LE about events of that night but I am not sure what she lied about. But, if her lie is that she was home all night, what charges might she face if she revealed now that she was, in fact, not home?
Probably Obstructing an Investigation, for one. What sentence might such a charge bring if she were convicted of Obstruction?
Possibly a Child Endangerment charge. What sentence might that bring if convicted?
If Misty was not home that night and came clean about it now, she would be in a very good position for reduced or dismissed drug charges.
If Misty lied about being home alone with the kids all night, she may really not know what happened to Haleigh. She may have lied out of fear of what Ronald might do to her if he found out she had either left the kids alone or had “company” over that night.
At this stage, she would be less afraid, though, so why would she not come clean (if this is what she has been withholding)?
Would Misty be in deeper trouble on charges of Obstructing and/or Child Endangerment than for her current charges of drug trafficking?
If so, I doubt she will ever tell.
Sorry guys having a hard time<can”t scroll hmmmm weird,BRB,see whats up!
If Misty was not in the home that night and left Haleigh and Jr. alone it still is an unknown abductor that came in and took Haleigh.
unknown non stranger
Txmom, yes, unknown to us but maybe not unknown to Haleigh.
correct treece.
How many of y’alls children would go to others they where not very familiar with at 5 years old. I have a large family and my children where only close or friendly without caution to those that they where involved with regularly within the family as well. My sister has a 2 year old and a 5 year old and they live in the wonderfull state of Florida as well and we only get see them every other year for the summer and it takes days for them to warm back up to us again.
Does anyone remember the DNA swabs they gave everyone? I would guess they were using that to rule out DNA at the MH that was found. And from what I know of DNA it would rule out other family members seeing as how DNA shows family links in it. Ron and Crystals DNA is similar to Haleigh and Juniors. Mistys is similar to Tommys etc. Maybe thats why its not a stranger, there is no strange DNA evidence in the MH. Just throwing out reasons. jmo
Hey Gang!!!
I think the DNA swabs were for a “reason” other than ruling out. Although what Tobias says about it, does make seem more logical!!!
**make/more
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tobias said,
in March 3rd, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Does anyone remember the DNA swabs they gave everyone? I would guess they were using that to rule out DNA at the MH that was found. And from what I know of DNA it would rule out other family members seeing as how DNA shows family links in it. Ron and Crystals DNA is similar to Haleigh and Juniors. Mistys is similar to Tommys etc. Maybe thats why its not a stranger, there is no strange DNA evidence in the MH. Just throwing out reasons. jmo
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As far as I know they only took swabs from Crystal and Ron.
tobias said,
in March 3rd, 2010 at 3:03 pm
I have to go back and check to see if thats when they gave him a ldt.jmo
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If you are talking about Tommy, he still hasn’t been given a LDT, as of the 19th, according to him LE hadn’t even talked to him about Haleigh at all
I have wondered at that as well tobias. If they have everyones swabs and they still do not have a suspect is it not fair to assume that one of them has commited the crime? Ron, Misty, Tommy ,Crystal. Do we know who else has given DNA swabs to LE.
I ment is it fair to assume
I always questioned the light in the kitchen being turned on. Who does that when they are there to take a child and not get caught?
Misty was clear in her statements that the light was on when she woke and it was out when she went to bed. Who undresses a child they are taking? Thats a first, why not get rid of the clothes later( along the road or in the trash). Why were they found in the drier with the other dirty clothes and not on the floor?
Some of the stuff in this case is just plain odd. jmo
I still am confussed as to why LE would take Crystal to a abandoned house early on in the investigation. Anyone else figured this out?
Tex, where is the link to that?
Speaking of LTD’s. Why would Crystal say she did not know if she passed her LDT or not. My question is why is she not sure she would pass a LTD involving HaLeighs abduction. She is the only one out of all of them that have been given LDT to not proclaim she passed.
The only house I know of that was empty was the MH next to Rons MH. Is that what you are talking about? jmo
Because when LE gives lie detector tests they dont tell anyone whether they passed or not.
I dont know why Ron claims he passed, but since he stated that Misty passed too I have a hard time believing his statements about it. jmo
I am only trying to figure out reasons why Misty will not talk. One obvious reason would be if she is guilty, or is protecting the guilty. Another reason might be she really does not know what happened. Yet, on tape she is heard saying she would tell LP if he bailed her out. I doubt she would tell anything that would implicate herself or Ron, so what info might she have to offer? If it could be verified that Misty wasn’t home and really doesn’t know what happened, would that not exonerate her? Other charges may apply, but at least she would not be viewed as a possible perp re Haleigh, or as protecting others.
No it was (the House) located of a County Road leading to Walaka (sp), it was in a video or article..I will try and locate.
Cath, I totally agree. I feel the new lie detector she is gonna take may be to prove something she may have told LE since the drug bust. I have a feeling she knows everything otherwise she would have been afraid the whole time she was out running around. jmo
Karon Cox said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 4:21 am LE may stick to their guns about sending them away for a long time, if they don’t give something up about Haleigh.
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It won’t be LE sentencing them, it will be a Judge. Misty’s youth, upbringing and the fact this is her first offence will weigh heavily in her favour on sentencing. If she knows anything to help LE re Haleigh, I doubt very much she’ll be talking at this stage, as it would only get her in more, not less, trouble, and LE have made it clear they have nothing on her re Haleigh, so why would she?
What I am saying is if someone else took Haleigh and thought Misty could say something she knew wouldnt she be in danger? Wouldnt she think she was in danger with LE saying she knows something? Yet Misty is so unafraid. Remember according to her someone came in there and took Haleigh, wouldnt she be afraid of that person if they exsisted? jmo
Afraid of what?
And if she is accusing Cousin Joe of it why would she go to TENN. Wouldnt she be afraid of him? jmo
I have to say that Misty was asleep or not at home. You are right she is not scared to be running around pegged as someone who knows something.
I am not buying Misty sleeping through the whole thing so either she knows what happened or she was not there when it happened. I do not see her being afraid of an “unknown” person. And I do not see any reason why Misty would protect Crystal.
What I am saying is there is NO one to be scared of because no one came and took her. jmo
Does anyone remember where the tip came from that stated Misty was not home?
TM39 @ 2:15 – I agree. good thoughts.
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Also I know you know they’re only charged with the drugs, but I thought it related to part of a question you had about the tapes being released. Sorry if I misunderstood.
Tobias @ 4:24 – What statement that someone came in and took Haleigh? I don’t recall a statement by M saying that. That is what she imagines has to have happened (or so she says). If she did not recognize them then there is nothing to fear from them.
LE swabs the parents so they will have the dna in the database to identify a body if they should find one. They gathered the dna in the beginning that is why they only got Ron and Crystals dna
Seems like you have inside info Tobias since you know no one took her… how would you know that???
Seems like you have inside info Tobias since you know no one took her… how would you know that???
TM39 – When NayNay was in jail she wrote her boyfriend saying that LE had told her M was at a party etc.
Then of course brother T says she was not there when he went over at 10pm.
I don’t know about any “tips” per se.
I found a few
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m2d18-Tipster-says-Misty-not-home-when-Haleigh-disappeared
This is when Tommy claims she was not home
http://www.wesh.com/news/21061708/detail.html
cathartic, you said, “on tape she is heard saying she would tell LP if he bailed her out.”
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Those were the words of a desperate person. She had no intention of telling him anything whether she really knows anything or not. She just wanted OUT.
I don’t know why PCSO took her to that abandoned house. It’s not like she could identify any personal belongings of Haleigh’s that would have come from Ron’s house and they don’t take family members out to a crime scene if they had found a body.
tobias said,
in March 3rd, 2010 at 4:00 pm
I always questioned the light in the kitchen being turned on. Who does that when they are there to take a child and not get caught?
Misty was clear in her statements that the light was on when she woke and it was out when she went to bed. Who undresses a child they are taking? Thats a first, why not get rid of the clothes later( along the road or in the trash). Why were they found in the drier with the other dirty clothes and not on the floor?
Some of the stuff in this case is just plain odd. jmo
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the pink shirt was found in the pile of clothes on the floor by the washer by Misty when she was with LE in the trailer.
is anyone else having problems with the posts taking a long time to post and the page to refresh?
tobias, you said at 2:40 pm
“I would be glad if she were hidden somewhere, but it is a long time to hide a child where no one would see her. And what would be the plan for her to resurface? I dont mean to put a damper on anyones theory but it just doesnt work for me. How would they get in the door and not be seen? How would they know she wouldnt make noise and wake Misty? Why leave Junior? How would they know Junior wouldnt wake up? See all the questions in that theory? Thats why it never worked for me.”
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There are questions in ALL the theories. Parts that are hard to figure out.
In this theory it is possible that a third party was paid to go over and offer M a drug and it knocked her out. Then a third party (not Crystal and probably not MG) went in and took Haleigh. Jr may have been sleeping, also knocked out (due to meds or something). Then whoever it was could turn the light on, change her clothes, take their time.
And who says Haleigh ever has to re-surface?
She can be made to believe she’s someone else.
She can be made to believe this was done for her protection so she has to stay quiet to continue to protect herself and Jr. She could have been sold into you know what. Plenty of RSOs on that side of the family who could have double-crossed MG or JS or whoever the mastermind was.
So this theory stays on the table for now as far as I’m concerned. There is NOTHING to rule it out any more than there is anything to rule any other possibility out.
We all just have to figure out what theories we think are most possible – and that’s a matter of opinion.
It has been slow off and on all day for me.
True m2c theorys are good things. They keep us thinking.
vaquera said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
I guess the same reason they haven’t released where Crystal was that night or where Chad was till he got home at almost 5 AM. they haven’t released much in this case at all.
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I’d love to know the answers to those questions! Particularly given Marie gave Chad a false alibi for the night….I assume Crystal also gave him a false alibi. The question is “why”???
I am not against any theory that leads us with the facts and we find Haleigh. When the facts are disregarded in some theories it tends to fall apart for me.
Well I can answer a few questions about Crystal and where she was that night. She was at home and when she got the call, she was waiting to find out if what she had heard was true or not, Ronald and his family had made calls to her before that tuned out to be just scare tactics and she didnt know at first if this was indeed a true call, or another one of their little stories to upset her. She waiting until her Dad returned her call after checking things out for himself and told her it was indeed true..Then she did start getting things together and making arangements for Cloe and her Mother to call into work and then she did leave to get there…
Vaquera maybe LE took her there for other reasons.
To have a private little talk. Just thinking
I agree me…. why would Marie give Chad a false alibi and where was Chad until 5 in the morning and could the door have been propped open so someone could come back in and get Jr too and something or someone stopped them? I heard that these 2 families know alot of the same people maybe someone told them that Mistyhad been on a 3 day binge and she would be out cold and easy to get in the house with Ron at work. just a theory and jmo
On Tuesday, Haleigh’s mother, 23-year-old Crystal Sheffield, and her grandmother, Marie Griffis, arrived on the scene from Georgia
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2009/02/florida-police-say-haleigh-cummings-was-abducted.html
xfiles, only thing you’ve said that is true was Crystal was home that night. Crystal said later she knew it was NOT a prank because she could hear the police in the background. how was she waiting to find out if it was true or not? she didn’t call her mother till 5 and they in turned called Johnny, so over an hour after being called the first time she calls her mother and then they called her father…… nice try anyway.
Texasmommy39 said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 4:03 pm I still am confussed as to why LE would take Crystal to a abandoned house early on in the investigation. Anyone else figured this out?
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That still confuses me too. The Sheffields/Griffis have basically escaped public scrutiny.
The fact that Marie gave Chad a false alibi is very very hinky to me.
xfiles, I’m afraid you’re repeating a lot of the old propaganda and rumors from long ago.
A lot has been learned since then.
I still dont remember anything about an abandoned house. Was it rumour or is there a site talking about it? Where are the links for it? jmo
Are you talking about the burned up house on their property? jmo
LOL I was wondering how long it was going to take
xfiles said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 4:58 pm Well I can answer a few questions about Crystal and where she was that night. She was at home and when she got the call, she was waiting to find out if what she had heard was true or not, Ronald and his family had made calls to her before that tuned out to be just scare tactics and she didnt know at first if this was indeed a true call, or another one of their little stories to upset her. She waiting until her Dad returned her call after checking things out for himself and told her it was indeed true..Then she did start getting things together and making arangements for Cloe and her Mother to call into work and then she did leave to get there…
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Actually, it was LE that called Crystal, at least according to her. When she was asked in an interview as to how she knew Haleigh was taken, she said it was because LE called her and told her that. It took her hours to get there (not a normal reaction imo) and then Chad got the false alibi….hmmmm. She is certainly the one with the motive.
Vaquera – this thread is very slow to post and refresh for me too.
Do you all want to move? There is an earlier article:
Haleigh Cummings – Caylee Anthony – Some Reflections, Feb 27
Article # 123933
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xfiles said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 4:58 pm
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Why would Crystal have to wait a return call from her father. She said she heard the police in the background when TN called her.
SHEFFIELD: Ronald`s mother, Teresa Nieves (ph), called me at 3:49 AM in the morning and told me that Haleigh was gone.
GRACE: And what did you do?
SHEFFIELD: At first, I thought it was a prank, kind of. And then she was, like, The police are there, and I heard them in the background and then it hit me that it was not a prank.
http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/12/ng.01.html
Denise said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:02 pm I agree me…. why would Marie give Chad a false alibi and where was Chad until 5 in the morning and could the door have been propped open so someone could come back in and get Jr too and something or someone stopped them? I heard that these 2 families know alot of the same people maybe someone told them that Mistyhad been on a 3 day binge and she would be out cold and easy to get in the house with Ron at work. just a theory and jmo
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Yes, and the timing of the abduction…right after Crystal received the warrant for unpaid child support. I wouldn’t put it past the Sheffields/Griffis to have done this for money. They probably saw the As making money off Caylee and wanted to get in on the action. Haleighbug was set up in record time, and they weren’t even seeking funds to look for her, just to support the family. And I suspect some of those funds were used to buy drugs for Crystal & Chad.
And the crack at their house has me scared….crack is whack and people have sold children for crack more than once in the past.
From what I can see, no one has ever answered my question about the child support. Does anyone know: Was crystal supposed to send the checks to a state office to be forwarded or were they supposed to go straight to Ron?
tobias said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:12 pm I still dont remember anything about an abandoned house. Was it rumour or is there a site talking about it? Where are the links for it? jmo
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Crystal was taken there by LE in the early days of the investigation….round about the time she was apparently avoiding having her DNA taken. If you read through the early articles, you’ll find reference to it…it was probably in the first week/few days.
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Haleigh Cummings – Caylee Anthony – Some Reflections, Feb 27
Article # 123933
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vaquera, I wasnt trying anything, I was telling you the FACTS as I heard Crystal tell them right out of her owm mouth, how do you know what she said or what she thought, she is the one that said they were always pulling pranks on her and she just wasnt sure what to make of it this time.Either way, what does it matter what time she got there? She is not a supect in HaLeighs dissapearance, chances are that HaLeigh was gone before the first 911 call was made, Misty knows what Happened to HaLeigh and thats why she is sitting in jail right now, just like Ronald, he knows too, Goodness, look at the facts, LE has never thought Crystals side of the family was suspect of anything, They checked out everybodies where-a-bouts while doing this investigation and just because they havent released every word doesnt mean it hasnt been checked and rechecked, The people that lived in the home with HaLeigh are the ones responsible for her being gone!!
Surely LE would have evidence pointing towards them, but it seems all the evidence is pointing to Mistys time line for that night.
It sure is a curious thing. Misty failed 3 LDs has thrown people under the bus and now says she will tell LP info if he gets her out but changes her mind after her lawyer informs her
not to. Even her father tells her to stop he doesnt want to know and to tell everything she knows to her lawyer. She never says after that statement of his that she doesnt have anything to tell her lawyer. Too much weird stuff going on with Misty. jmo bbl
xfiles said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 4:58 pm
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On the NG show, Crystal said she knew it wasn’t a prank while she was on the phone with TN being called that HaLeigh was missing. So, imo, waiting on a call from her dad only would waste precious time getting to Satsuma.
GRACE: How did you learn she was gone?
SHEFFIELD: Ronald`s mother, Teresa Nieves (ph), called me at 3:49 AM in the morning and told me that Haleigh was gone.
GRACE: And what did you do?
SHEFFIELD: At first, I thought it was a prank, kind of. And then she was, like, The police are there, and I heard them in the background and then it hit me that it was not a prank.
alethea said,
in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
From what I can see, no one has ever answered my question about the child support. Does anyone know: Was crystal supposed to send the checks to a state office to be forwarded or were they supposed to go straight to Ron?
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they go through the Florida Dept of Revenue
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In case you didn’t see it:
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Sorry about that!
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Texasmommy39 said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 3:07 pm I have to respond with my reasoning and not the drug adled brain these people involved are working with so I do not believe you or I would think as these individuals do or would. In my opinon a mother will do what ever it takes, and I am not just meaning Crystal, she’s just a cub, its Marie that is the lioness on the prowle IMO. Marie is protecting Crystal.
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Also i agree with that and I don’t remember who said it but I kinda agree with this person assuming?? Misty was not home? ok,what if the door was propped open to back after him but Misty came home and interrupted! All theory on my part ofcourse!
I wonder what the arrangements were when Crystal had the kids for a weekend. Did she pick them up at the MH? Did she go inside the MH when she picked them up or returned them?
R and M and the kids had not lived there very long before Haleigh went missing. I’m just trying to think of who all might have been familiar with the layout of the MH.
On Tuesday, Haleigh’s mother, 23-year-old Crystal Sheffield, and her grandmother, Marie Griffis, arrived on the scene from Georgia.Crystal lived in south ga, when Haleigh went missing.
and if its true that crystal and ron were talking of getting back together…..which is what i’ve heard……..no proof of it that I’ve heard but if so she would have been comfortable enough right?
cathartic, When crystal picked the children up she was not allowed to come to the home, she had never been there before, she was made to meet Ronald at the local McDonalds to get the kids for the weekend.
And i just remembered,Wasn’t it js who said he saw misty out that night? maybe he knew b/c he followed her while the kidnapping occured?
xfiles…actually Misty is in jail on drug charges. She’s not been charged with anything to do with Haleigh.
Crystal is a junkie who was facing serious penalty for refusing to support her children….she had just received the warrant.
I have no idea why you say that side of the family is not suspects….LE conducted their biggest and most expensive search into Haleigh’s disappearance on their property…too bad they waited so long.
And frankly, you couldn’t possibly know that Ron knows anything. Are you claiming to be psychic or something?
Why are we NOT moving to another article when this one is slowing down for some people?
It often does that when the comments amount to over 1,000.
Are we MOVING? Please see my 5:26 pm
Hey Anne,good to see ya!
Thanks xfiles. That is not an uncommon arrangement. A lot of times it is done that way.
vaquera said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:26 pm alethea said,
in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
From what I can see, no one has ever answered my question about the child support. Does anyone know: Was crystal supposed to send the checks to a state office to be forwarded or were they supposed to go straight to Ron?
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they go through the Florida Dept of Revenue
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Thank you. Because it sure would look hinky if he had filed a complaint against her for non-payment at the same time he was talking to her about getting back together.
Well,she went somewhere when she said Haleigh was face down in a canal? ron was there!
xfiles said,
in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
vaquera, I wasnt trying anything, I was telling you the FACTS as I heard Crystal tell them right out of her owm mouth, how do you know what she said or what she thought, she is the one that said they were always pulling pranks on her and she just wasnt sure what to make of it this time.Either way, what does it matter what time she got there? She is not a supect in HaLeighs dissapearance, chances are that HaLeigh was gone before the first 911 call was made, Misty knows what Happened to HaLeigh and thats why she is sitting in jail right now, just like Ronald, he knows too, Goodness, look at the facts, LE has never thought Crystals side of the family was suspect of anything, They checked out everybodies where-a-bouts while doing this investigation and just because they havent released every word doesnt mean it hasnt been checked and rechecked, The people that lived in the home with HaLeigh are the ones responsible for her being gone!
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good Lord, Marie herself said in an interview Crystal called her at 5 and they called Johnny. so is Marie lying when she said that. that was during the same time she called her work for them to get a sub….5 oclock. Marie called, Johnny called, work called. hell all Crystal had to do is get out of bed and walk the 50 FT. to Marie’s house. they didn’t get to Satsuma till around 11. the press was there when they got there, they had just gotten there themselves because the AA went out during Caylee”s memorial which didn’t start till 10. I would think it would matter a great deal what time they got there? where were they all those hours?
LE said that both Ron and Crystal were not considered to be POI.
They have not checked out the maternal side either. Since outside of Crystal no one else got a LDT test until June when Chad took one after the crack/pipes.
I’ve gotta catch up,sorry if ignoring anyone!lol
Sorry I bothered to try to help some people and find an article everyone could move to that would post and refresh faster.
Hey..
Cathy if you’re talking about where they were living at the time of the canal… I believe it was at a different MH. Ron had just moved in the “current” MH… I think just 3-6 months prior.
vaquera…are we sure Chad did take a LDT? I haven’t heard that from LE, and given we know the crack was his and perhaps Crystal’s, why would he agree to take one. He and Crystal told LE the crack belonged to a friend fo theirs. Crystal’s already been convicted of lying to LE once before, and should have been charged about lying to them re what they found in their search for Haleigh. Goodness knows what else she has lied to them about.
Ann,did you ever find anything about the bank acct? cs and mg?
cathartic said,
in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
I wonder what the arrangements were when Crystal had the kids for a weekend. Did she pick them up at the MH? Did she go inside the MH when she picked them up or returned them?
R and M and the kids had not lived there very long before Haleigh went missing. I’m just trying to think of who all might have been familiar with the layout of the MH.
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Well in one interview Marie said she had been in the trailer and in another interview Crystal said she hadn’t. I don’t believe she had been to the new place but that doesn’t mean she didn’t know exactly where it was. Johnny apparently knew how to get there since he went over to Ron’s after 5 some time. I don’t know how long it takes to get from Georgetown to Satsuma..so whether Crystal had been inside or not doesn’t matter, her family knew where he lived. Also I believe Ron was friend with Candyce Ruth,Crystal’s cousin.
TY Adams,i didn’t know for sure,just saw it mentioned that cs had to meet them!
CathyJo63 said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:34 pm Well,she went somewhere when she said Haleigh was face down in a canal? ron was there!
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I found that canal story very odd. First, she didn’t seem to even know what the reporter was talking about, then when she “remembers” and tells the story, it was obviously her that was responsible for Haleigh wandering off, as she knew Ron had gone back inside. I think it is a bunch of bs.
me, I heard about the LDT for Chad from cobra and TJ on one of the shows.
CathyJo63 said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:40 pm Ann,did you ever find anything about the bank acct? cs and mg?
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I have that info somewhere Cathy…I cant locate it. Hope you look at the link i posted.
wbtw reminded me,cs said she had to give Haleigh cpr and if a child almost drowns,theyre lungs are full of water,i’d bet she don’t know cpr…….but she would have had to taken her to er? don’t ya think?
she said she wanted custody,well MY God,that would’ve got it!
m2c♥ said,
in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Sorry I bothered to try to help some people and find an article everyone could move to that would post and refresh faster.
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sorry m2c. a lot a posts came in I wanted to respond to but I am for moving this thread is way to long.
k,will do,TY Anne!
M2,I ain’t caught up yet,pc messed up again!
vaquera , not calling anyone a liar, just because Marie said that doesnt mean she was right on the minute and still, Like I said,LE has checked everything out and Im sure they know exactly where everyone was and the reason Crystal got to Satsuma at the time she did, it really does not matter what time she got there, HaLeigh was still gone and dont you think if she was the one responsible for HaLeigh being gone that she would have sure she was in Satsuma asap to keep from looking suspitious. She didnt have anything to do with HaLeigh being gone, LE knows that, the ones responsible for this crime are already in jail!
me said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:42 pm CathyJo63 said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:34
*****************Me,if i were a betting woman,i’d bet all i own!She doesn’t know truth! imo
Drowning means different things to different people. I personally believe that the canal thing did happen, maybe just not in the way that they claim. Do we have all the details?
1. How deep?
2. How long had she been in?
3. What did she mean by CPR?
etc…
That would have helped alot for custody and she didn’t report it but reported little things?? nahhhh
vaquera said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:42 pm me, I heard about the LDT for Chad from cobra and TJ on one of the shows
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Thanks Vaquera.
I had heard about it too….just not sure if the source of the info was LE or the Griffis/Sheffields, who we know were putting out lots of lies. I wonder why LE never charged them with the crack….it is an awful drug and very dangerous….and when you think there are at least 5 kids living at the house at times, terrifying. Kids should not be around crackheads and LE should have done something, particularly when they found out they lied about who owned it.
CathyJo63 said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:43 pm wbtw reminded me,cs said she had to give Haleigh cpr and if a child almost drowns
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Near drowning, especially with a child, requires, if not warrants, emergency intervention by medical personnel at the scene and in a hospital. There are so many complications that can arise and IF, as you say, CPR was even considered in this situation, then the next logical step would indeed be calling 911 to provide advanced cardiac life support, not just basic life support in the form of cpr. JMO
Yes drowning does but she had to give mouth to mouth?? LoL I KNOW FOR A FACT I WOULD HAVE CALLED!
Yes,and she used inhalers,breathing problems Susan,Turners……..akmost funny for cs to say that!
I’ve got to get ready for my commute… so I’ll be back in a couple of hours!
But first… Is there proof that the crack/pipe belonged to Chad/Crystal? Is there some VID footage that I haven’t seen showing their asses fighting over it?
What am I missing… is there a LE report stating that they copped to crack/pipe?
CathyJo63 said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:51 pm Yes,and she used inhalers,breathing problems Susan,Turners……..akmost funny for cs to say that!
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What is funnier, is that people are biased, naive and gullible enough to believe it!
cent….if you look at the correspondence between Kim & Marie & Crystal that formed part of the bar complaint, you’ll see the references to Chad owning the crack and how they had to lie to LE about it.
Crystal told Sheppard smith that someone went in and took her,shep asked how she knew that,and she was stunned,its the same video where they acted straange in!
CathyJo63 said,in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:57 pm Crystal told Sheppard smith that someone went in and took her,shep asked how she knew that,and she was stunned,its the same video where they acted straange in!
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I think her and Marie have acted strange in all the videos. In that iv with Geraldo, she doesn’t seem at all upset, but seems hell bent on making up as many destructive lies about Ron as she can. Why was that all she was interested in? She didn’t plead for Haleigh to be returned at all. Very odd.
no funny in a way that she reported small stuff me,but not the one that would support her claim!
going to old article
Then Me,did you see the last vigil video of mg!
Afewwwwwwww slips!
This is an excerpt from an email Kim sent Marie…..answers who owned the truck the crack pipes were found in…..
(7) Everyone should be instructed not to answer any questions about the crack pipe issue, or who
the truck is owned by. No comment is the word on this. Marie: you need to be very careful of what
Diane knows about this issue. If she reports that the truck was Chad’s, and that they were his old
pipes, that would be extremely bad. DCF would most likely get involved, and Chad could get
arrested. Every “Ron”fan on the internet would call the authorities and demand action against
Chad and Crystal.
http://imgsrv.thesky973.com/image/wsky/UserFiles/File/Object_1429486_0.PDF
Thanks… Me
IMO I have seen some mothers report stuff to act like they fought but they really don’t want custody……hmmmmmmmmmmm
This is an excerpt from an email Kim sent Marie…..answers who owned the truck the crack pipes were found in…..
(7) Everyone should be instructed not to answer any questions about the crack pipe issue, or who
the truck is owned by. No comment is the word on this.
Marie: you need to be very careful of what Diane knows about this issue. If she reports that the truck was Chad’s, and that they were his old pipes, that would be extremely bad. DCF would most likely get involved, and Chad could get arrested. Every “Ron” fan on the internet would call the authorities and demand action against Chad and Crystal.
I saw those too Susan!
BBS,Sorry,lol see you on M2’s new thread i guess,my little man is here!!!!! Gson,lol
While crack/pipe is bad…. they were not caught doing it on camera… They knew that LE was going to search the property… why didn’t they get rid of it prior?
cent….maybe they didn’t think LE would search the truck….maybe they didn’t have time to hide it (I don’t think they knew the exact time LE was going to show up)….maybe they thought they’d gotten rid of it all, but forgot about the stuff in the truck. Whatever the reason, I doubt they left it there on purpose for LE to find!
xfiles said,
in March 3rd, 2010 at 5:47 pm
vaquera , not calling anyone a liar, just because Marie said that doesnt mean she was right on the minute and still, Like I said,LE has checked everything out and Im sure they know exactly where everyone was and the reason Crystal got to Satsuma at the time she did, it really does not matter what time she got there, HaLeigh was still gone and dont you think if she was the one responsible for HaLeigh being gone that she would have sure she was in Satsuma asap to keep from looking suspitious. She didnt have anything to do with HaLeigh being gone, LE knows that, the ones responsible for this crime are already in jail!
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Marie would know when Crystal called her and when she called work and when she, Marie, called Johnny. I’ve never said Crystal had anything to do with it buT there are many, many others in her family. Crystal has no gumption, planning and carrying out a kidnapping takes someone that would have to have gotten off her butt and done something. That’s not Crystal. Even Marie said she had hoped that HBC would be good for Crystal so maybe she would get off the couch.
My fault, folks. I should have realized everyone was very involved in a discussion.
When you are ready there is an article you all can move to:
Haleigh Cummings – Caylee Anthony – Some Reflections, Feb 27
Article # 123933
One way to get there is scroll up, click on Home (in orange box on left) and scroll down to find the article. OR go to your address bar and put your cursor at the end of the address, backspace until it ends with bloggernews.net slash and type in the new article number:
123933.
I am already over the m2c. 😀
over there. LOL
Misty and Ron both think the Sheffield side has Haleigh. When Misty went on The Early Show she said it then and in one of the jailhouse tapes Ron is saying something about Crystal being able to “just move away” and he would never see Haleigh. It probably wasnt those exact words you will have to see the tapes for the exact words…sorry.
I have yet to see Rons vidio. Do you have a link? Pretty please.
Video sorry
Oh, I forgot to give a SHOUT-OUT to Vaq, she rocks!
SIMON!! I can’t get to your page to download the show!! FIX THAT!! please..thank you
it took me 5 minutes to open this – I won’t be back until we get a new thread – c u later
treece we are on the feb. 27th thread.
WE MOVED!
TO:
Haleigh Cummings – Caylee Anthony – Some Reflections, Feb 27
Article # 123933
One way to get there is scroll up, click on Home (in orange box on left) and scroll down to find the article. OR go to your address bar and put your cursor at the end of the address, backspace until it ends with bloggernews.net slash and type in the new article number:
123933.
Texasmommy39 said,
in March 3rd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
I have yet to see Rons vidio. Do you have a link? Pretty please.
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I always go to youtube. Sierra 1947 has all the jailhouse video’s that have been released…here is the link..
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947
Evening everyone,i havent been by to chat in a few. I sometimes take a stroll around the net.Reading all the updated on Little Haliegh,an this case.I have been praying for Halieghs return sence this first came out.She sure has been missing a long time,with out a trace.Its mind boggling to me.
I believe if Misty truly knew something,an wasnt just guessing,in her own mind-she would have spilled it by now-she didnt have any problems singing like a tweety bird-in the jail clips-we have all seen
Ronald even taking meds-he worked to support his household-i believ he loved his baby girl-To many loving pictures through her young life-of him,an Haliegh-a dad that doesnt love their children you dont see pictures of him an his child Fishing together-bowling-coloring easter eggs-playing -brushing teeth together
I Just looked at how the trailor was layed out from the inside The back door -leads to the laundry roo-to the kitchen,an-dining nook-then you take a right an the beedroom door can be intered -with another right-It would have been easy to miss the light-if perp pulled her bdroom door back shut when he quietly eased Haliegh out the bed-If Misty was in a deep sleep from being exausted from her weekend parties-she could have easly slept through the perp comming in-light awitch was as soon as the laundry room was passed,on the right side of the wall,before intering completly to the kitchen-As for Halieghs shirt-most beed wetter-will sneak up an change wet cloths-ashamed-an trying to hide-that they have we the bed
For this child to have not been found-an no traces of her-just leads me to believe she was taken from the home by someone other than those who lived there.A thief-an repeat SOwould know how not to leave prints-just a corner of a shirt held by the hand can turn a knob-
As for the LDT well Misty knows she has been blamed for this-Haliegh went missing on her watch-that would make anyone nerves when taking a test
Jeffery Domner passed his LDT
Im a honest woman an i failed on once-I was already upset before taking the test-When they kept repeadedly asking the same question in different forms-an at different time-i got aggrovated-hey an i failed-i was telling the complete truth-An a child surly didnt go missing on my watch-so Misty had a lot to be nerves about
Each an ever one of you brought up some good points
Who was staying at the home where the Van was at-Chelse said it had been moved-sometthing about a new scratch-on it-I believe Joes history with Molesting Misty before-the Gun issue with Ron-him leaving so quickly-made Misty very suspecious of Him-She brought it up early on-in the case
Tommy from viewing his jail videos-he Looked around his eyes like someone in heavy withdrawl-one of my family members went through Oxy withdrawls in Jail-an she had the same darkness-around her eyes-she caught it going clean -no medical help-but is doing very well todayBack to Tommy -hes a creeper-in the night we hear of him creaping in to homes-sheds-an such while stealing- he would most likly wear dark clothing doing this-an his story just doesnt ring true -about knocking on the door-most people-young family will alsmost always go to the bedroom window of the family they are trying to rouse-It has happened here at home many times-when my sons frieds arrive late-to stay over-or they want to rouse me-im a deep sleeper-because i am on strong pain madication for two different issues i have with my health
I really dont know about Crystal,an Chad-but i do know the state allowed her to have Butter bean(RonJr) being aware she is a drug user-an now has failed on test-an refused the other-Crack pipes found -of course it would be blaimed be them that the C pipe belonged to another-What was the Judge thinking when placing Ron jr into another home with known drug use from the parent.More than once stated the drug use going on on the property where halieghbug foundation was at-All of you know everything that went on-
Ronald could have just been a recreational drug user-an never allowed it into his home-who knows
What about those places that Misty went to pick the pills up to sell-were the provider of the pills arrested-Also all involved-or just those targeted? The 200 pills that no money was passed on-I dont think that should be allowed to go through the courts-it was a dirty sting-with those pills MOP never ever. heard of a sting being handled in that manner.
I know that the drug bust-an the jail release of videos-an the very high bond-was all to get anwsers for Haliegh–I know with all the Hoopla in the release of the DB videos-The great build up-The threat of 25-114 yrs-The LE-or investigators still Have no anwsers to Halighs whereabouts– I for one am disgusted–that after a yrs time this is only how far LE has managed to get in this case–NG said well if they were suspious of Joe-they would have arrested him–well they were suspious of Misty an never arrested her WHY? She then could have been interrigated for that child being missing-but the stupe to a drug bust to try an inter. her. Some LE i Trust–an some i dont–not all are straight-an decent–out to protect people atall cost–from what ive read there a lot of illeagle stuff going on throught the yrs in that county-that was over looked for a long time—I pray the closure comes to all the families if she is deceaced-if alive Halieghs found-or returned–But after all this time it just looks like someone watched that Trailor-knew Rons work secdule-an took the chance to swipe a beautiful precious girl child–Screams pedifile to me—-Tis of course is justmy OP-an i do love reading all that you have went over her on Somon-an Jans blog-I will come by again soon-i love to chat-try to make friends ever where i go–An am so concerned about all the little one who come up murdered-or missing-What will it take for parents to beaware someones always around the corner stalking our children–An the Seems the System is completly flawed-when SO walk free to repeat their crimes–an parents stop harming-an murdering your children–My God drop them off somewhere anywhere if you cant handle the situation-some one will love/ nurture/ an be happy to have these babies!! Good night all -catch me at Caylee daily Long post lol i know sorry.. Yours truly Jan
LOL my keys seem to be sticking when writting my post–lol or just bad spelling -oh well i tried lol
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