I have not even had time to watch these videos. I have no clue if they contain any useful information or not. This is the first one, and it is of a video meeting between Misty Croslin and her father Hank Croslin
Because of the size of the files I have had to split them up. This one is in four parts.
I want to say a big thank you to Armando Aldazabal for picking these DVD’s up for us. And I would also like to point out that BNN is the first organization to get them to the public.
The exact date of this conversation is unknown, however it was between Feb 17 and Mar 4.
Video One
Video Two
Links coming as soon as we can get the vids uploaded! YouTube takes forever to upload. Video parts 2. 3 and 4 are in process. OK, looks like that mission is done!
Do they help in finding Haleigh Cummings? Probably not, but they do offer interesting views of this very strange family.
This is going to be a long and tedious process, so please cut me some slack. We are working as fast as we can to render these videos.
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI can’t believe that life/death seems to mean nothing to the “wooden headed” Misty.
I am not seeing new videos – maybe my computer is acting up.
Good morning/early afternoon everyone.
Just now listening to the video of M and her Father. So sad. Her Father is upset and seems to be crying by the sound in his voice and instead of asking her Father what he is crying or upset about she just says don’t cry. M doesn’t seem to care what he is crying about exactly.
Even if she is assuming he is crying and/or upset about her and her situation M doesn’t even consider to offer him any reason at all not to be crying either.
I feel really bad for her Father after watching this video.
You can easily tell that her Father loves her very much.
Hey guys,Adams!!!!!!!!!!!!
There you are.i think,lol
that is so sad Tuff,like its all about just her!
It’s thataway with a lot of these kids nowdays. Self centered and demanding. Like her nickname fits her perfectly right? “Me Me”.
Serious false sense of self entitlement for sure.
I do feel very sad for her Father. It’s like she doesn’t really care about his feelings whatsoever.
Tuff,i felt that too long ago when she had her first visits with Lisa,and Hank or Lisa and when she said to get me out before Tommy!!! Tommy has kids for God’s sake!
Just seems to me now though that whatever happened to Haleigh is worse than spending time in prison….I just don’t get it!but i still feel m or r had nothing to do with it,weird huh?
CathyJo63,
That’s true but Misty has been there in jail long enough for this not to be a “fresh” insult to her yet she keeps it fresh by ignoring her Father’s emotions and pulls everything back onto herself by just flatly dismissing him by just telling him not to cry.
I am just going by what I am watching in the video here and by what I am seeing it appears to me that she is flat out ignoring her Father and his emotional well being.
It brought me to tears to be quite honest.
CATHY JO!!!!! WELCOME HOME!!!!! YOU HAVE BEEN HIGHLY MISSED!!!!!!! SO GLAD YOU GOT A COMPUTER!!!!!!! YES I AM YELLING, HAPPY YELLS!!!
SO GOOD TO SEE YOU!!!!!
the pic of him in court talking to his attorney scared me,his jaw was set,his eyes were downright mean lookin’ and i gotta tell ya,it scared the heck out of me just looking at him!and i don’t scare easily..that look reminded me of something bad……..i am weird tho but did yall get that impression or is it just me?
Treeceee!!!!! I wondered where you were! so good to see you and thanks for everything,did you get my sloppy letter,if so then you know why i’d rather type…LoL Chicken scratch!
I was so glad i had just given you my addy…….when i got your letter i skipped home,lol
I wanted to yell,but don’t look good on ME,lol I MISSED YASSSSSSS SO DANG BAD,YOU HAVE NO IDEA,Never missed ppl the way i did youins’feel like i am home again………lol
Thanks Simon.
I couldn’t get the 2nd video on Tommy to work no sound.
ya know,its weird and i hadn’t thought of it till my pc broke,i do not know a soul with a pc except you guys….and I am way to loud for a library.LoL But i guess i am a hermit,i tried to think..how can i get online to lettem know……..thats what i get for being a loner…….lol
i saw the ones last night,Tommys eyes were freaky,I think maybe too its where he was using maybe?? weird though!!
Cathy Jo
Tommy is on some heavy meds while in jail. Or he makes us think he is. His eyes are crazy.
And in thinking back to things that has been said in other videos with her Mother even and how her Mother has either said things that didn’t make a whole lot of sense coming from her being a “Mother” and under the cirumstances, well I think it is possible that both of her Parents have had issue with Misty and possibly have been for quite some time.
It seems possible that her Parents were potentially last ditch effort trying to “at least” play the Parent/best friend card with their Daughter in hopes to keep at least have some form of ongoing bond with her rather than to lose her altogether.
I believe that the problem with that Parent/best friend thinking and behavior is that it further distances a Child from their Parent and is most usually very counter productive to the Child.
Yea Treece,I got a puter,40 bux a week,can you believe that,i woulda waited and bought one outright by saving the 40 per week..lol but i couldn’t take one more day wiffout you guys,wheres Ann by the way? and Hg? oh and M2…I am sure she don’t miss me much,rofl but i even missed her!LoL
They sure are KyMom,freaky as heck!The one time with Hank his eyes rolled all the way back in his head………….gave me shivers!
They have gained weight tho!!!!!!
Tuff,exactly,she needs money for calls and commisary is why,in my opinion!
Remember when she told Lisa that she couldn’t move away with LP……..And wherever she went to prison at,they had to move there to VISIT HER!
Ya know..w/o h and l she has nobody else really because t and r are in jail too and she’s thrown everyone else under the bus.backed it up and threw em under again..LoL
IMO for their own sanity if nothing else I believe that it is time for M’s Parents to start beliving in tough love.
M is their Daughter and they obviously love her very much. imvho It’s time for them to show her that they are her Parents that do love her and sometimes Parents are not all fluffy, soft and easily waled all over.
Misty’s Parents deserve her respect and compassion in all of this!!!!
What the heck does Misty expect from them exactly?
So far you have listed the money for the calls, her commisary and to ensure and guarantee they will be living near to where ever she will be housed. What the heck do they get in return exactly?
More demands?
oops that was supposed to say “WALKED ALL OVER!”
CATHYJO, YES I AM YELLING TOO.SO GLAD TO SEE YOU.
EXACTLY RIGHT!!Tuff!
and i don’t doubt that theyve used together before and its more friend basis than parental!! neither of them ever had a normal parent/daughter relatioship!
Kids who are on drugs betray their parents as often as breathing air.i think thats whats happened! Hank kept saying,he tried to tell her but she wouldn’t listen!and she has said,I’ll quit drugs,stay home with you guys always!
OMG ANNNNNNNN!!!!!!! I asked about ya last night….so good to see you g/f!!!!!!!!!
they hadn’t seen you in a few days,lol but i see ya now!!!!!!
((((((each and everyone of ya))))))
I have been trying to catch up w/o bombarding you guys wiff ??’s!!!
I am so sad for Misty’s Parents right now. Especially sad for her Father after watching that video! It’s heartbreaking!
CathyJo63 said,in April 6th, 2010 at 12:27 pm OMG ANNNNNNNN!!!!!!! I asked about ya last night….so good to see you g/f!!!!!!!!!
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I dont post much at all.But i know we all here sure have missed you. Welcome home!!!
Thank You so much Ann!!!!!!! Good to be home,atlastttttttt!!!
I know what you mean tuff,and especially 2 kids! I mean they haven’t went to extremes like g/c to condone them so i can understand how they feel……its gotta be hard!
bb as soon as possible,ride with daughter to appt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love you guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have a great day CathyJo.
bbl too.
THANKS Simon & Jan!
Much appreciated! 😀
THANKS Simon & Jan!
Very much appreciated! 😀
Oh, sorry for double comment. Oops!
The one thing that I got from the videos is that Lyndsey is mad at Misty but yet Tommy doesn’t seem to be mad at Misty. You would think if he was innocent that he would be so mad at her for accusing him.
One of the main things I see that is changing is that Misty is beginning to accept the fact that she will be spending a good many years in prison. I also sense that her dad is beginning to let her know that they are going to have to back off a little because of money, and other problems. Misty seems to be adjusting a little better to being in jail, however.
Dang, so THIS is where everyone went! I was still posting on the last article! I can’t see the videos on either article. Must be blocked here at work.
I did just read an article at AH….normally don’t read there much but I’m getting desperate for info. There is an article about Hope and has transcripts from one of her calls. It is a doosey! She’s a real piece of work. It is a call with her mother after she plead no contest to the charges. You NEED to read that article! WOW! She even makes Misty look like a little angel with that mouth of hers. And if the judge sees the video before her sentencing she is going away for a LONGGGGGG time IMHO.
So what is on all these latest vids? I can’t watch them so I need someone to be my eyes and ears. I’m dying for some info here folks! PLEASE! Someone help me out. I wish we’d get transcripts of these dang calls!
Did everyone leave this article too? I’m getting a complex! LOL Where is everyone? I need info!!!!! Waaaaahhhhhhh! 😥 😥 😥 😥 👿 😥 😥 😥 😥 😳
JB,
On these newest two (so far).. Misty discusses the youth offender program (3 years in 4 out) and “She’ll take it!” She also mentions a boot camp type thing, which she says will be hard cuz “she can’t do no push ups! She’s pudgy!” lol
Hank wants to get a job when his court is taken care of so he can provide a home for his family. He sounds very down and depressed about what his life has become. He has no money and keeps telling Misty he doesn’t know if and when he can visit, including making her next Court date (which Misty said is the 8th) We don’t know when these videos are recorded. This should give us a clue, I suppose.
A lot of chit chat otherwise. Misty talks about how the guys and girls communicate (banging on the toilets). Hank said that Lindsy’s car overheated. Misty gets letters from weirdos..
J – MUCH obliged! Hope talked about boot camp but she’s angry about it and says if they think I’m bad now wait until I get out of that place or something to that effect. I read part of Hope’s conversation with her mom at AH’s site. It was a jaw dropper/eye opener, that is for sure.
NG has a breaking news thing about Misty talking about taking a plea deal. Have you seen anything on these videos that mention that? Trying to figure out where NG is getting that info!
J – and once again…a big fat THANK YOU for answering my post. It’s like pulling teeth to get info today! LOL
JB
Not missing much on the videos. Hank tells Misty that Lyndsey is mad at her but not much is said about it. Mostly small talk. J covered most of it.
JB, it’s probably old bombshell news. Nancy is usually a day late and a dollar short. 😀 Bombshell…yea Nancy, we heard that info days ago LOL (Of course unless it’s on some of the videos we haven’t seen yet 😉 )
Romewi – thanks! Let me know if you come across anything juicy!
Vaquera – Yeah, normally Nancy’s bombshells are bombduds but she has got my attention with this talk about a plea deal mentioned on video….curious if it is on the drug charges or the Haleigh case…probably drug charges. This case is so dang frustrated I just about chew my leg off waiting for news! UGH!
Have you guys read the article from AH on Hope? WOW is all I can say. These people never learn! They have NO concept of doing anything wrong or illegal or having to pay for their crimes! It is unbelievable!
JB I listened to the Hope call to her mother. It was on one of the Florida news stations. My thought was Hope fits in well with the rest of the clan. Trash mouth and thinks the world owes her. Says she isn’t going to do this or that…surprise Hope…it’s not up to you. It’s up to the judge.
Romewi…and I hope the judge sees that video before he sentences her! These people have a lot of gall and B@lls the size of Mt. Everest! NONE of them seem the least bit sorry for what they’ve done or the trouble they’ve caused their families. It is all about them. Give me this, do this, do that, I need money, I need food, give me give me give me! I’ve never seen anything like it!
Off Topic – just heard that Casey Anthony’s 50 letters to other inmates WILL be released and soon! That should be an interesting read!
JB, someone said earlier that Misty’s nickname was appropriate. The kids call her me me….It fits Tommy and Hope also. I don’t think I have heard one of them use the words “Thank You”.
Why do MC’s mother and father seem to hide their faces on the videos? In the early vids, MC tells her mother that she can’t see her face, and then her mother ignores her by moving closer and out of camera range- as if to hide her face. MC tells her again that she can’t see her face and once again mother ignores her. Sr.’s sunglasses are stylish, but I’ve yet to see him w/o them on in the jailhouse vids.
If HC Sr. and MC’s mother need money, why don’t they accept some from NG to go on her show? Could it be because they would have to show their faces?
Romewi – yes, these people are spoiled brats and they are where they belong. Every time they open their mouths I dispise them a little more. And yes “me me” DOES fit her!
CocoaHead – Well, if I looked like Lisa and didn’t have teeth, was a dope head who stole purses, checks and anything else I could get my hands on AND raised the most self-centered, criminal children I’ve ever seen…I’d hide my face too! LOL And Hank can quit with the disguise. I think everyone has seen his face enough already so the sun glasses aren’t going to help him at this point. He probably wants to be able to go doctor shopping soon without being recognized! UGH!
CocoaHead…are you new here or using a different name? If you are new, WELCOME! 😀
Casey letters have been released…reading them now…..
Where JB?
OH WOW…Casey is telling this other chick about how Lee molested her and how she thinks GA molested her when she was in elementary school. Says Cindy called her a whore. LOL Well…HELLO, if the shoe fits, Cindarella! These letters are GOOD.
Oh, and when Casey gets out of jail (yeah, right) she and this chick are going RVing together! LMAO WOW!
I have left this comment on Gohdes site. I have no doubt that it will not be approved, but I thought you all might enjoy it. Everyone needs some fun now and then……
Were it not for the fact that the nature of the case is so serious, I would find large amounts of humor in your articles. I would however like to point out that copy/pasting comments from BNN in your previous article shows a total lack of ethical standards.
Several months ago Art Harris called me, one of our commenters had copy/pasted some comments from his site. I removed them immediately. It was not a legal obligation, but a moral one.
Nice to see that you have picked up on the fact that BNN is the only game in town with these videos. It is possible that if you put as much effort into helping report on the Haleigh Cummings case as you put into attacking BNN I am sure that your web site would be much more successful than it is. For a ‘so called’ expert on the art of SEO, it does not seem to be working. Have you considered going back to selling health remedies?
You seem to take great pleasure in annoying my wife with your continued comments on BNN. Why Bother? Why spend time doing that?
Clearly you have your own agenda, I am sure that little I can say would change that. What that agenda might be, is beyond me. But I guess that you do.
I have doubts that this comment will get published, but rest assured, it will be published on BNN.
Have a great day
Simon Barrett
MC, and TC are in prison. What the H do you expect them to talk about. How wonderful their life is? At least they talk about changing their life when they get out for the better. There is no way that girl knows anything about Haleigh. She would have slipped up by now. I will be riding my own shock wave if I find out any different.
JB:
The tapes don’t really have anything but a bunch of complaining about the jail. Hank is really down and seems to be crying. He is worried about getting a job, worrying about his wife, and Misty and Tommy being in jail. He is letting Misty know that they will come when they can, but it sounds like their money is getting tight. Hank can’t get a job until he gets his legal trouble settled, so this was before his hearing.
No plea deal was mentioned. Ronald wasn’t mentioned. I didn’t see any bombshells on these two tapes.
Misty is complaining about not being able to do anything. She can’t exercise in there. The doctor in there took her Albuterol away from her. It is just chit chat. Maybe the next tapes will be more informative.
Sorry, O/T – Article on wftv.com says Casey’s letters include: “In the letters, Casey told inmate Robyn Adams that Caylee had trouble sleeping and she had to use chloroform to put her to sleep. Also, Casey Anthony implied to Robyn Adams that her mother, Cindy Anthony, brought chloroform home from the clinic where she worked.”
did I mention Misty was ‘set up’ by law enforcement? Well, she was…LE has let the real perpetrator escape by focusing all their efforts on Misty..SHAME ON THEM!
Karon – Thanks for the update. Guess I’m not missing much!
m2c – OMG! I’m reading the letters now but it is slow going! So she ADMITS to using chloroform on that baby! And CINDY provided it? Or so Casey says! OMG! That is HUGE! She is ratting on her family big time so far in what I’ve read and I haven’t even gotten to the chloroform part! Let’s see her dream team explain THAT away along with there being chloroform in the trunk and in the gatorade bottle found NEXT to the body! She’s going to get the needle! YIPEEEEEEEE! Can I do it? I want to put that witch to sleep for good!
Casey says “Eric” is Caylee’s dad. Who is Eric. Says he is from Kentucky. Says Jessie knew she had a fling with him around Thanksgiving…and knew Eric was Caylee’s father. So where is this Eric now?
Tapes are more than a month old by the time they are released. These are from late Feb.-early March. I don’t see any sign of a plea deal for Misty.
I know it was said in court that Ron is working on a deal with the state but I am not sure it has anything to do with info on Haleigh. Because I really do not know what Ronald might know about Haleigh first-hand. I believe he was not there when she disappeared.
Misty may have been there, but she had company and was not watching the kids. I think someone that visited early in the evening is the perp, that Misty may not know exactly who it was or where Haleigh was taken. Someone abducted Haleigh, but it was not a stranger. It may have been a revenge kidnapping but I believe more likely it was a SO taking advantage of an opportunity.
I think Misty might not have even noticed right away that Haleigh was gone. I am now convinced Haleigh was never put to bed that night, that something happened to her before then. I think Misty then staged the MH, likely got rid of some items (drugs, guns) maybe with help (Timmy? Tommy? Joe?).
Ronald is responsible for leaving the kids alone. He left them alone often, all three of them. I say three, because Misty is one of the kids. She is no babysitter, that’s for sure. Misty loved kids and they loved her, because she was one of them.
Someone took Haleigh and Misty did nothing to stop it, or was powerless to stop it. She has not been honest with LE or with Ron about that night. Had she been honest, Haleigh might have been tracked, and possibly saved.
The perp is a SO, may or may not be RSO…but SO nonetheless, and is someone Misty or Ron, or both of them, know personally. Possibly a friend, but certainly an acquaintance.
That’s been one of my theories for a long time; it was second on my list but now has moved to the top of my list.
I feel Misty/Ron/Tommy did not directly harm Haleigh and they don’t know where she is, or someone would have talked by now. At least one of them would have. This is all JMO.
I hope this does not post long. It doesn’t look too bad from here so I will cross my fingers and submit as is. Sorry if it is long, and my apologies to Jan for my going so far off-topic early this AM.
JB said,in April 6th, 2010 at 4:20 pm Casey says “Eric” is Caylee’s dad. Who is Eric. Says he is from Kentucky. Says Jessie knew she had a fling with him around Thanksgiving…and knew Eric was Caylee’s father. So where is this Eric now?
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JB, His name is Eric Baker
I have always thought that Tommy loves Misty alot more than Misty loves Tommy. I think they are both under pressure from their family not to tell on each other. I do believe Misty would tell everything she knew on Tommy alot quicker than Tommy would on her. I think Misty has let some little things out about Tommy, but she is holding back some things.
I don’t think Tommy harmed Haleigh, however, he may have helped on the cover-up.
I couldnt get over the truly uncaring attitude about the people who tried to commit suicide.
Misty even starts laughing about the person who died in the cell she was once in. H ank gets a really sick look on his face when she does it too. He is more compassionate but he still doesnt tell her to stop talking like that. I think he is afraid that once she realizes that she is going to be looking at 25 she may do it too. She still has dreams of the youth offender in tthese tapes but we now know Ron was offered a deal for 25 and he has less charges than Misty. jmo
And after hearing how casually she talked about some of the suicide attempts I feel she could care less about anyone that doesnt affect her own life. Right now its Hank and Lisa because she is lonely. But you can bet she could have cared less while she was out.
People have said many times that she is manipulative, now I see it. And I believe Hope knows all about the boot camps from friends who have been there and thats why she doesnt want to go. And the stories she heard must be pretty bad to make her take years instead of reducing her time. jmo
Shockwave said,in April 6th, 2010 at 3:25 pm MC, and TC are in prison. What the H do you expect them to talk about. How wonderful their life is? At least they talk about changing their life when they get out for the better. There is no way that girl knows anything about Haleigh. She would have slipped up by now. I will be riding my own shock wave if I find out any different.
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I totally agree.
And I have ZERO sympathy for Hank Sr. It’s one thing to be poor and not to be able to send your kids to summer camp, dress them in the best clothes etc…..but taking a child out of school in grade 6 is disgusting. Every child is entitled to a free education, and he and Lisa denied Misty this basic right/need. Perhaps if she’d gone to school like other kids, she wouldn’t be in this mess.
I don’t get why Hank & Lisa haven’t been charged for taking her out of school so young.
Simon,
I have no idea who this guy is and have never been to his site. He comes across as very jealous of you. I am sorry you and Jan have to put up with his annoying you.
And thank you so much for getting us these tapes first! This place is the best and I’m so glad I found BNN!
And of course a big thank you to Armando for collecting the tapes…much appreciated!
I also think Misty can put herself in complete denial on most anything that points to her.
She keeps denying knowing anything about Haleigh and now even with video she denies doing the number of drug sells we clearly see on video. I think she feels if she keeps telling herself and everyone else that she didnt have anything to do with something that will make it so. They all are in total denial when they claim some else is ruining their lives.jmo
cathartic,
One of my theories (which is probably now 2nd to the Griffis/Sheffield theory) is quite similar to yours. The longer this goes on, the less likely I think it is that Tommy & Misty know anything re who took Haleigh or where she is. And I’ve always thought an SO was a real possibility. They are called predators for a reason, and Haleigh would have been relatively easy “prey” given her father worked at night and she was being babysat by a teenager.
tobias,
You’d be shocked how many drug addicts in jail would prefer to do time in jail than do a rehab program or some other program….they see jail as the easy option….so Hope’s attitude didn’t surprise me. I do believe Hope is intellectually disabled…..her speech and comprehension, imo, was what I would expect from a young child.
As for Misty’s hope of doing a youth program…remember she was only just 18 when this happened….different category to Ron. Also, the Judge will certainly have some sympathy for the fact her parents didn’t even care about her enough to get her a basic free education. With the right people helping her, I believe Misty’s prospects of rehabilitation would be considered relatively good.
I just can’t bring myself to feel any sympathy for Hank and Lisa. With their “spiraling out of control lives”, did they ever consider what they did would effect their children? Misty is in the shape she is in because she had no “home raising” (as we in the South like to call it). She had no formal education (6th grade). Where we her parents then? Where were her parents when she met Ron (a man that potentially took advantage of their daughter because of the age difference)and then in short order moved in with him? They never cared once for the welfare of their children, and their caring attitudes now for them is what we also call in the South “a day late and a dollar short”. Their caring attitudes “look good for TV”, and that’s probably the extent of it. Misty had no support system or a role model, so its not suprising she is behind bars and facing serious time. Feel bad for Hank and Lisa? I think not, considering they will probably have cells in county lockup, along with their children, in the near future.
Tuff Stuff–As for “tough love” for Misty from her parents: Misty has had it “tough” her whole life..As for “love”, I think she was rarely showed anything close to that!
m2c!OMG!! on the Casey letters. How is Andrea Lyons going to defend this? Thanks for this news!! It made my day.
Simon and Jan thank you for the videos.
John G. just wishes he had the respect you and Jan have. He will never measure up, so he needs to let that dream go. God Bless you Simon and Jan. Praying for Haleigh and all of the other missing.
Misty could have gone back to school at any time, she chose not to. Instead she chose to live with Ron, I am sure Lindsy or Chelsea would have helped her with a GED, they seem to have made it. Also it seems Timmy has a diploma, Grandma Hollar even says its on her wall. Alot of 16 year old girls have babies and go back to get GEDs and hold down part time jobs. Misty was not interested plain and simple. I do not feel sorry for her I feel sorry for Haleigh she is the only one who deserves any sympathy. jmo
tobias,
Are you serious? It is a parent’s responsibility to get a young child to school. Children in grade 6 are not fit to make that choice for themselves. Unbelievable.
I was refering to her at 15 or 16 she had choices then too. She could have chosen to go back to school at any time but didnt. I have zero sympathy for her, she chose to do what she did and it has nothing to do with education.jmo
Haleigh is the only one I do feel sympathy for. Did anyone in any of these three families–Croslins, Cummings, Sheffield/Griffis–ever think of the welfare of their children? Did they change their lifestyle and way of thinking after Haleigh went missing? Nope. And if that didn’t wake them up to the “evils” of this world, then I think nothing ever will! My sympathy goes to the innocents in this case–the children. These people mentality landed them exactly where they are, and if it wasn’t for Haleigh missing, I would say “Good riddance”. Because whether anyone believes it or not, all involved had ample time to change their behavior, to grow up and take responsibilty for their actions, and every last one of them refused to (including Misty). Sympathy is wasted on all of them, except their poor babies that have to live with the mess their parents have created of their lives.
Hank keeps talking about going back to work and he cant even sit in a chair without complaining about his back and leg. Who is gonna hire him if he cant even sit in a chair for half an hour? Even if there was a possible job which all of us know are far and few now, I believe Hank and Lisa will be on welfare or disability from now on. Evidently Hank must not have had auto insurance or they would have paid if he was disabled from the car accident.jmo
Good for you Simon. John G. is an over the top idiot. Thanks for the tapes and all of your efforts.
i am really sorry, and please no need to blast me, however I see a 16 yr old raised in the most dysfunctional family I have ever seen…. I really don’t think she has the IQ to be able to keep the LE and FBI away if she truly is guilty… I don’t know… I think it is so very sad for so many… and for Ron Jr. I am not in the area but is CPS checking on that poor child??? Or Tommy’s kids?? What is being done for the ones that are living in complete chaos and drugs and language that is beyond incredulous… IF HaLeigh is deceased, can we not make a difference in these poor children of this beyond screwed up family/families??
Law Enforcement is in CYA mode (cover your ass) for bungling the haleigh investigation..they have ‘entrapped’ and made Misty the scapegoat to distract from their inept investigation. Misty knows NOTHING and is now facing bogus charges SET UP by the undercover police..its disgraceful how LE and the DAs office has vilified Misty..those idiots should be looking for the real perpetrators of haleigh gone missing instead of setting up Misty on false charges.
Hi all,just went through the looney tunes letters,omg she wants to become a writer of books,spell check please,but in all jokes aside,gleammed some insight,she does have a major crush on JOSE, can that be a strike on his part of being her attorney,also i think she has a good ideal george loony was having a affair when she mentions he lost his job and didn’t tell taz the she devil,but he was leaving everyday to do whatever are whoever!and the point she made that is why she didn’t report caylee missing,was she was planning to run away with caylee,sorry casey you didn’t report caylee missing your mother did,point is where you ever going to report her missing,are you thought no one would notice you didn’t have caylee anymore,but most of what i got was blah blah my looks and food
OJ’S Glove
I agree with you, however, they do what they are allowed to do, what is accepted. For me the key is not to accept it. I won’t allow any agency or reporter dictate and out line the life I experience. Life is within the limits we set or accept someone else setting for us. The options LE are presenting to me is to with out question buy in and believe them. They can read and long ago have known their statements generate down right hate and violence on a human life, “Misty” They are not just asking me to convict her based on what they claim is right and evidence they claim they have. They are asking me to hate her they want me to participate in ending her life not just on the evidence they claim they have but on their belief of her guilt and their obvious desire to get people to hate her. They are setting narrow and rigid limits for me to see this from and I did not come through all I did in my life just for some Sheriff I couldn’t care less about stifle my life. My life is the experiences I have and my experiences are within the limits set and Jeff Hardy and Greenwood are not seeing them for me.I’m not about to let them make that choice for me. He might be all that and a bag of potato chips in his town but he’s not Sheriff in my town.
I can’t watch these video’s all I want to know is did Misty take the lie detector I suspect she did not.
DustyRose,
Great post.
Does anyone know who is mad at Misty? Is it Lindsey? And why?
Shockwave
I think she is referring to Lindsey because she says something about not getting to see austin. Which is Tommy and Lindsey’s son.
Off Topic…Sorry…but I’m about to explode with Glee! We need a Caylee Anthony article!!!! Casey is SO going to be put to death. She admitted to drugging Caylee in her letter AND she told this other convict ath Caylee was found in the woods in a black trash bag WITH A BABY BLANKET! That info had NOT been released to ANYONE. Only the medical examiner and certain investigators at the crime scene knew that. She just sealed her fate! She knew what only the murderer of Caylee would know…and that is what was in that bag with her! She admits to drugging Caylee so she could party…used cold remedies and other drugs….not sure she ever admitted to using chloroform but it isn’t a stretch to believe she did with the searches known to have occurred on her computer and the admission that she DID drug Caylee. Dang, doesn’t get much better than that. In her OWN words in her OWN handwriting she basically has admitted to killing Caylee.
Sorry…I know this was off topic but I couldn’t contain my sheer joy that now I KNOW without a doubt that Casey is going to die for what she did to Caylee. The prosecuting as this deal SEALED! YIPEEEEE! Justice for one of our little angels!!!!!!!!
Lindsey is mad at Misty…Hello?! Misty tried to point the finger at Tommy. You better believe Lindsey is mad!
And why do you think Lindsey is always telling AH everything and giving him insids scoops. I don’t think Lindsey likes Misty one little bit!
BUT, that also makes anything Lindsey says suspect because no telling what she’d say to protect Tommy and point the finger in a different direction. She might also tell AH things just to hurt Misty…whether they are true or not (like flunking the poly, etc.)
I don’t blame Lindsey though. Misty is trying to get Tommy involved in Haleigh’s disappearance. If Misty didn’t have anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance she still shouldn’t bring other people into it. She should just tell the truth about Haleigh. She lies so much she probably doesn’t know what the truth is anymore. I’m not saying Misty is guilty but she has told so many inconsistent stories she makes her self look guilty of something.
JB
Nothing so far said in these jailhouse tapes about the LD test… Wonder how many more tapes there are?
JB
About the baby blanket in the Casey Anthony case wonder if Jose knew this info and passed it to Casey?
KY – I don’t know…doesn’t sound like there was much of anything good in the tapes this time.
I don’t blame Lindsey either. Misty is talking trash about her husband but it would make me very leery of anything she said to AH and if I were AH I wouldn’t be printing things Lindsey says as the gospel. The only info I will believe is that which comes from someone who has nothing to lose or gain by sharing the info. Lindsey isn’t one of those people. But I’m not sure AH is interested in facts. He just wants the most sensational story and to feel like he’s “in the know”. Truly sad. We don’t need more rumors out there. We need fact.
Shockwave, Hank said Lyndsey is mad at Misty. I can only speculate that it is because Misty is saying Tommy is involved in Haleighs disappearance and telling cops Tommy is responsible for the burglary into a home in the neighborhood that he lived in on Tyler Rd.
If the idea that M is trying to implicate T in Haleigh’s disappearance is coming from what AH said C said M said L said etc it’s ridiculous.
What M said was that T and Joe came over to steal a gun which they could not find so T LEFT and JOE took Haleigh.
FGS, M exonerated T with that one statement.
And if that is what L told T at the same time that she passed along the rumor that M had taken and failed another poly, then stupid Gollum should be thrilled instead of saying, see I told you she was lying. Utterly moronic.
JB
I was talking to you last week about Ron not searching for Haleigh and one of the fellow bloggers let me know that Ron did search for Haleigh but the law enforcement made him stop.
It is in my opinion that Misty knows something about the night Haleigh disappeared. Why would she write her family to indicate that Tommy and Joe took Haleigh. We heard her talking to Hank and Lisa by phone and Hank Sr. told her he did not believe her. That is a complete turn around from her being asleep and not knowing anything.
I do not hate any of the players. I do believe however they committed a crime and deserves to be punished. This was not entrapment. Misty and Ronald are the two that we see mostly making these deals. They did receive money. We saw Misty putting money in her bra. We also heard the UC saying to Misty that he heard her telling Ron to give her, her part of the money for making the contact. We also hear Misty telling the UC about another deal they had to make and they needed to hurry because they needed to pick up little Jr. from pre-school.
Lindsay’s ass is delusional… she needs to be pissed at her husband 1st… then go on down the line, and include herself in that. She turned a blind eye to Tommy’s drug antics and thievery. I have no more sympathy for her, to me she is NO innocent bystander, she is full of SHIT!
And let’s not forget… she has profited off this too… free computer!! I’m thinking that this is just the beginning of who has “helped” the family along the way… in the last 3 mos.
I believe Lyndsey makes really poor decisions. BAC you are correct she needs to be angry with Tommy first and foremost.
I do not feel sympathy for none of them. The only ones I feel for are the children and the true victim here HALEIGH.
In the letter C supposedly got from M, M did NOT implicate T in Haleigh’s disappearance.
Below is a direct quote from thes source of this “story:”
“According to her letter, Chelsea said Misty wrote that when Tommy and Joe arrived, “Misty told them she didn’t know Ronald had apparently taken the gun from his usual hiding place. So when they got there, and couldn’t find the gun, Tommy said, ‘I’m going home,’ and left, and then Joe got mad, grabbed Haleigh and took off.”
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Please note: “T LEFT”
I just don’t understand how this implicates T in Haleigh’s disappearance. It does the opposite.
Does anyone know if there are anymore tapes to be released?
M2C, I don’t see it directly implicating Tommy at all. I’m thinking because Misty said that he WAS there, is what/why Lindsay is pissed.
m2c – I think Lindsey may be mad that Misty even said Tommy was there…especially if it is not true….and maybe that is why Tommy said she is lying….because he knows he wasn’t there that night and never came looking for this gun….but that is just a guess. Maybe Lindsey knows Tommy was home…IDK……but I suspect Lindsey would be angry that Misty would even state Tommy was there …. especially saying he was there to steal a gun…. who knows. But I agree that Misty’s story does clear Tommy….but again….it is just one of her stories and who knows what the truth is.
So m2c…aren’t you thrilled about the Casey letters? WOO HOO! She’s sealed her fate!
Lindsy just wants to prove everyone wrong even her parents. In her mind she can fix Tommy, she needs to wake up because the only person who can help Tommy is Tommy. She has an education now and needs to just get on with her life.jmo
It is my opinion the story Misty is alledgedly telling is BS! Misty would not go against Ron and allow Tommy or Joe steal his gun. Mistys loyalty is to Ron.
Now that doesn’t make sense Misty saying Joe took Haleigh. First I thought she was asleep when Haleigh went missing. Why didn’t she call the police?
Lindsy needs to blame her own husband for being in jail first and Misty second. During one of the earlier tapes Tommy even said he should have stayed home like Lindsy said. So she knew he was doing this and he wouldnt listen to her, in my book that would have been the last straw. jmo
Even still… did Tommy not tell LE that he was there at the trailer, because of Ron’s request? He placed himself there… before Misty ever did!
And why did Misty say what she knew would hurt 2 people? Joe is only one person…who would be the other if Tommy wasn’t there?
Rome @ 9:37….. Good question!!!!!!!!!!
Seems to me the Croslins are better liars than the Anthonys and look at the mess that trial is, I cant blame LE for not being able to tell whats a lie and whats the truth. jmo
b*a – but now Tommy is saying he only told LE he was there that night because he was in jail, under pressure and was being grilled by LE. He told them something to make them go away. I don’t know whether he was there that night or not or for what reason but I don’t believe the Tommy/Joe story.
As has been stated by others, I don’t see Misty letting Joe/Tommy steal from Ron. Firstly because she is loyal to him, secondly because she fears him and it would come back to bite her in the butt. Secondly, this story of Joe taking Haleigh doesn’t hold water. Why would she not call LE if that was the case? Why not tell before now? It makes NO sense and I don’t believe it for a minute. I agree with the other posts above that this story of Misty’s is a bunch of bunk!
Tobias…9:40 post. You got that right. The Anthony’s lies are desperate and so blatantly lies they are almost laughable and often ARE laughable. With these folks the lies are possible and they lie much better. They are born criminals raised as criminals and they’ve got this lying thing DOWN to a fine art.
I don’t believe that angle, either JB! And, now… since they have lied/schemed so much, there is no way that they are NOT involved… in some capacity!!
b*a – I don’t know that I believe it but it is what he is saying now and that he wants to take a LDT to prove it….of course, that has yet to happen so who knows. I have no idea WHY these people are lying! THAT is what I don’t get. If they aren’t involved then what are they hiding and why all the games? It DOES make them look VERY guilty IMO and add that with whatever evidence LE found in the MH that night and shortly thereafter and that is probably why LE is looking at the inner circle so closely….and rightfully so. I mean a child’s life is/was at stake here and these people have done nothing but lie, twist, squirm, tell another lie, commit crimes, and lie some more. Maybe Misty was mad because Tommy says she wasn’t home so she then made up this story saying he was there that night to steal a gun. IDK what games they are playing but it is SICK! Meanwhile, little Haleigh is missing, probably dead, and these morons seem like they could care less! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! 👿
I don’t believe the Joe story either! LE must not believe it either or he would be in jail with the rest of the clan.
On August 28, 2009 in the voice print test of Mistys she implicates Joe and Tommy. Misty says if Tommy is involved, so is Joe. It was Sept 21,2009 when it was reported that Tommy said he went tothe mh because Ron had called him.
I was looking on you tube. This was the first time I saw the’ A link on Misty Cummings’ clip. It shows Amber Brooks holding baby Jordan and then the e-mail from Misty telling Amber ” B**ch I have your man and I will have your baby to. It was dated Nov. 2008 living in Welaka; not Satsuma on Green lane. It has a pic of her and Haleigh. Haleighs step mom – Misty Cummings. They musy of only been living in the mh on Green lane for about two months when Haleigh disappeared.
I still feel there is a reason LE didnt arrest Misty before they had Ron too. She did 3 sells before Ron ever got involved, 1 with Donna,1 with Tommy and 1 with the Kelly yet they went on to get Hope and Ron. I think Ron knows something about what happened that night too.jmo
JB… yes, the lies and games to me, shows that there has never been much concern for anyone other than the dope-man. How they can keep this up for over a year and still walk around as if they are the “wronged”, I can’t grasp that. It is sickening and disturbing beyond belief.
b*a…That is why when I read what Hope said I was flabbergasted! ALL of these people blame everyone else for their problems. They don’t believe they’ve done ANYTHING wrong. Stealing guns, checks, purses, selling drugs, doing drugs, lying to LE, assaults, threats….it is all just a day in the life of these people and they claim NO responsibility for their actions. They actually blame Haleigh for being behind bars right now….NOT that they were selling drugs and got caught. BLOWS MY MIND!
And Hope is a piece of work. I really didn’t know much about her until I read that article and the transcripts of what she said to her mom. OMG! She belongs in jail for a long time and I hope the judge watches that video of her because it is VERY telling.
Tobias ,I agree . I am suspicious of Ron.
JB and BAC you both are right. They feel they are the ones wronged here. This is very disturbing.
Hi beautiful*adams (cent)!
You said, “I don’t see it directly implicating Tommy at all. I’m thinking because Misty said that he WAS there, is what/why Lindsay is pissed.”
I agree. What’s funny is that T laughed when L told him M failed the poly! If that’s what M was saying, then he should be thrilled that she cleared him (and implicated Joe instead).
These people are so messed up! And it really makes me wonder about these so-called letters and stories and supposed LDTs. So far not an ounce of proof of any of it – and even if there was it all makes no sense! LOL!
Well they are selfish and they have never given one thought to the people they stole from so to me its not too hard to believe.
They rationalize their needs are greater and thats all that matters (their lives). Who else could steal from an old blind man? JMO
Oh, Cent, L should also be mad at T for telling LE that he was there. HE did that first! (although saying that M was not there).
I wish one of these losers would write a secret letter or two like Casey Anthony did! THEN we’d know the truth finally! I don’t envy LE dealing with these creeps. Getting the truth out of these folks is like trying to thread a very small needle with a two ton greased elephant on roller skates!
Hi, JB!
Unfortunately it looks like wftv got it wrong in their first article. Monster did not write that in a letter (darn it). She apparently told that verbally to the woman she was writing. So I don’t know if the state will want to use it or not. If you want more stuff about all of this just go to wftv.com and click on her name (in a box near top of home page).
New article says: “Inmate Robyn Adams, who interacted with Casey verbally in jail and through dozens of letters, told investigators Casey told her that Caylee had trouble sleeping and she had to use chloroform to put her to sleep. Also, Casey implied to Robyn Adams that her mother, Cindy Anthony, brought chloroform home from the clinic where she worked.”
Lindsay has her ass on her shoulders!! She actually makes me sick! I asked Art about proof of the letters, he said that some “family” were trying to sell theirs, but no media was biting!!
I think I agree with everyone this morning, Ha!!
M2C, they are screwed!!
Tobias, you said, “Who else could steal from an old blind man?”
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That says it all about the Croslins (at least T and Lisa but probably all of them). L HAS to know T stole the stuff LE found in their MH UNLESS T is blaming that on Lisa (or M).
Good morning felloe bloggers! I hva a quick queston that I really need an honest (non NG) answer to. The problem:? it’s off topic on Haleigh. It’s about Caylee. Did anyone here read those inmate letters? if so, did she actually say in writing that they found a baby wrapped in a blanket and a garbage bag as NG states on her show, or was this something that was said through the heat vent? The reason I ask is that if it was written, when? Was it before they discussed on national tv about the blanket or after? If it was stated through the heat vent, then I fail to see the “bombshell since this other inmate probably wouldn’t be considered a credible wittness. I’m so curious about this, I had to throw it out to you all here since I know I’ll get the true story and not NGs version of it.
JB @ 10:02
Hope said two things to her mother that made me laugh so hard I nearly fell off my chair.
1) When she was standing before the judge with her lawyer she told her mother, “I wasn’t paying attention.”
2) Then she said, “I didn’t plead NO Contest! My lawyer did!”
I did not get a chance between loads (I’m moving) to read them all.
Hank was one of the family who recieved a letter and he is probably the one trying to sell it to the media. He has Lisas fines to pay and court costs. I doubt that Chelsea would be selling the letters.jmo
Methinks – Do you remember when that info was made public? Because maybe Bozo told her.
Anyway I will try to see if I can find the answer but hopefully someone else will know sooner.
m2c…I think the most damning evidence against Casey is the comment about Caylee being found in a black trash bag with a baby blanket. ONLY the murderer would know that because that info had NOT been released yet! Talk about a “gotcha” moment. I believe she did write about giving medicine to Caylee to make her sleep – stuff like cold medicine. She just never wrote “Chloroform”. I still say it is the icing on the case for the prosecution! I’m tickled pink! 😀
m2c, If this was kept from everyone, wouldn’t they keep it from boze too? since the child was not identified yet?
JB< Oh my lord, so am I!!! This is the best punch in the gut to the defense so far! I love it! I bet Casey is feeling pretty betrayed about now!
methinks this is all I can find on it. It’s from the article that’s on wftv.com right now.
“Adams also told investigators that, on the day Caylee was found and after the jail chaplain already told Casey that Caylee’s remains had been found, Casey told Adams that Caylee was found in a baby blanket in a black trash bag. However, the chaplain didn’t know that at the time.”
So it looks like monster did not write it, but told her. And no date is given. I doubt any of this hearsay is going to hold up in court and the state will probably not even try to use it.
But I don’t know.
m2c, Thanks for looking into it. I hope that NG is correct to say that if nothing else it would show her frame of mind…ME ME ME…
Back on the subject of HaLeigh…Are there still a few bugs in the tapes or is it just my computer? I know Simon has been working very hard to get these up and running, I just wanna’ make sure it isn’t just my dinosour pc thats the problem!
methinks…I’m still trying to get through all the letters of Casey “muffin”. I haven’t found one that talks about the black bag and the blanket yet. They are tough to get through…I did have to laugh at her ranting about how Georgie quit or got fired in November but lied to Cindy and would go “somewhere” everyday like he was going to work. HELLO! What the heck did she do for two years while she was telling everyone she went to work and didn’t have a flippin’ job. Then she says that her mom is still “milking” the disability think and she SHOULD be grateful she has a job! LMAO. She says that Cindy was trademarking Caylee and Casey’s name and was all about the publicity and money! It is priceless.
Yeah, Hope is in need of some serious help! Instead of worrying about her “old-man”, she should be paying close attention to her attorney. Stripper/exotic dancer… for who/where? Anyone see that episode of Family Guy, when Stewie complains of the quality of daytime/afternoon strippers!?
BA, I saw on another site that said its a place called Wackos in Palatka.jmo
I would like to know how she could work in a bar at the age of 18? Wackos may be getting a visit from LE soon. lol jmo
Tobias… don’t you just love the shout-outs that they give these respectable establishments/owners?
True I wonder if the owner of Spinners was busted for his crack habit yet? LOL
Tobias here in Fl. You only have to be 18 in order to serve or strip unfortunately.
Wow where I am from you have to be 21 even in the juice bars.jmo
I just can’t stop myself at this point from posting to the one person that could end this all.
IMO the guilty needs to come clean. IMO they are still free and hiding the truth and HaLeigh.
I have heard enough begging for HaLeigh to be returned. I have had enough of the lies..and I have had enough of you and your family. You know what Happened that night. How the back door was opened. Why they bricked the screen door and why they had to use the kitchen light. You know who removed Haleigh’s shirt and hid it under the dirty clothes and you know that it was Haleigh’s foot print found on the wooden path that led to the small pond. You know where she was headed when they left the trailer park, by the way what time did they get home?
How do you look at yourself in the mirror everyday? How do you sleep at night?
LE has not found HaLeigh yet, and I want to know will they? Is the plan for LE to find her eventually or was the plan to hide her indefinitely?
Selfish aren’t you! Who where you really trying to hurt Ron or Misty? I bet your little plan was to hurt both. But Haleigh is the one that you are hurting!!!!!
I guess Ron and Misty kept your blood boiling for months.
They called “Misty MOMMY”
Did they call you by your name those few days a month?
Ron married Misty and stood by her side from day one. I am sure that ate you up!
Feel free to set me straight.LOL
Sorry guys, I just assume since all we have to talk about is the lies and irrelevant subjects that will never find HaLeigh you wouldn’t mind me getting this off my mind. I may have a few more recurrences so get ready. Jan, if my comments are to offensive and out of line please delete 😉
I believe the age should be 21 here to. Where I worked we only served beer and wine. We could not hire anyone under 18.
Looking/Tobias… yes, I agree 21 should be mandated in all states!!
Everyone has their own opinion about what is worthless info… anyways, has anyone come across the full vid of Misty discussing the marriage with the UC guy?
No is there one? I only remember the one we havent really seen being the one where she talks about her 17 b-day being f–ed up. I would like to see both really. jmo
TM I always have said that everyone is entitled to their own opinions or theories. As long as it isn’t vulgar I will let the comments stay. I am sure some of us in fact agree with you and some don’t. Those that don’t may say they don’t as long as they do so respectfully to you and don’t start a fight over it.
Let’s all keep Haleigh in our prayers.
Jan Barrett
There was suppose to be one, I’m thinking it’s the same night of the 17th B-day comment. Apparently she says something about the fear of molestation charges against Ronnie. Basically, confirming what we all suspected!
Do you mean of Misty or of Haleigh? I thought since Misty was 17 at the time Ron couldnt be charged, and unless Misty herself testified I dont see that going anywhere. jmo
To me i could care less about Lindseys innocent manner.She knew she was living with a strung out thief.He was stealing from the neighbors even,where did she think he was getting the stuff her brought home,or the money for his habit.
Wives know more about their husbands then the husbands think..An he said on one video,that the law didnt catch him for all he has done.She she took part when she stayed with him.
All Misty did was tell about a crime he committed,an told he had come by that evening. that he had come by,or thought he came by that night.So Lindsey needs to suck it up.Misty didnt put him there,he put his self there by the way he lived.
I still do not believe Misty or Ronald harmed Haliegh,this is one case,im just not buying every thing i hear.She a young first time offeneder,an deserves the same treatment,as any other first time offender get.If im proven wrong,ill admit it.
But PCSO Hasnt showed me enough to prove to me other wise.They cant solve the case,an i believe pressure from higher ups is on them.So they are trying in every way to stick her with a crime that hasnt been proven.Yes she got high,but thats not to say she was the night she was at home trying to make up with Ron. Shes to loving in nature towards children from what i have read.
An most country people spank their children.When i grew up mother spanked me,an believe it or not it broke me from some wrongs .An even the neighbors who were decent people if they saw your child in a place of getting in trouble why they would spank your butt to lol but never did any abuse us.People looked out for your babies back then,the whole neighbor hood.an watched for anyone comming around that wasnt suppose to be there.
Hank SR took Lindsey when her family kicked her out after she got pregnant.He knows he has done wrong,an they both as parents know they didnt live the best of life styles,but other than their past,they do all seem to love each other.
If Halieghs going to be found it will have to be from good investigators,because i just dont by Misty getting high an never telling anything.She would have if she truly knew what happened,the letter,i just think was her gussing,as we haven seen it,or what it contains,just in laws gossip.an someones spin on what they may have said. MAY have said !!I gotta run haveing a cat scan to see what the spot on my pancreas is,they found last week.Chat when i get back,i want to read all you have written.
Jan57… wish you the best on your appointment/test. Prayers!!
May God bless you Jan57. I pray all turns out well with your catscan.
I believe Misty could have been able to get the youthful offender if she only did this once and in one county, but as everyone can see clearly on video she was on her way to making this her career (if it wasnt before).
Ron saw it as supplimenting his other job and both were using as seen on video also. I dont think the comments that we havent seen are going to go over very well to a jury or judge either. jmo
good luck Jan57!
How do you think it will pan out for Misty considering you are only allowed to be sentenced to the youthful offenders program in one county? She has one count in St, Johns.This one was done with Donna and they brought the pills in from out of state with the intent to sell. 7 counts in Putnam County.
I don’t see Misty skating on these… unless info is given on HaLeigh. Otherwise, I think she’s doing some “years”… 10 maybe!
I will be suprised if Hope gets the youthful offenders even. This girl is twisted. She also has priors.
Thanks Beautiful*adams(cent). I think it will be at least 7. I was watching a documentary and the girl in jail was a first time offender with no priors and she got 7 years.
I forgot to mention that girl only had three counts. It was only RX pills she had sold.
Does Misty have a juvenile record?
KY mom , No way of knowing for us but if she was charged then LE and the judge can find out.jmo
I dont think people realize how many teens die every year from RX pills. Some after just the first time. I saw a documentary once where it was young teens talking about their experiences and about a freind who had died.jmo
And by Tommys statements about being trashed and still remembering being arrested that only proves Misty was not too out of it to not know what was happening that night.jmo
So if she has a juvie record can it be brought up in court ? now that she is an adult can her juvie record (if she has one) follow her into adulthood?
Thank you Jan, I will not abuse the privlage to post.
She and all her family will get tired of me calling her out and hopefully will decidetoday is the day to end this nightmare for HaLeigh.
Put some heat on them and see how quick the wall of lies falls apart is my thinking now.
I stood behind the heat applied to Misty and her brother to see if that is where the truth can be found, and IMO Misty and Tommy are innocent. Now its time for the heat to be turned on you and your family and I would bet your friends all would love to be in the spot light now. No Attorney or Bounty hunter now to help ya out. No reporter will ask you again to plead for HaLeigh. In fact when did you ever take that oppertunity?
LE will not get any peace from the public… WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY OR FORGET ABOUT HALEIGH! HaLeigh deserves more than what you have had in mind for your little girl to grow up without or what you have allowed to be done to your little girl.
Well I look up the law on teen’s with a criminal record and this is what I found.
It is a myth that a minor’s juvenile criminal record will be sealed once he or she turns 18. If you are adjudicated guilty in a juvenile proceeding, that fact can be used against a person in any future criminal prosecutions.
Texas – I support you in your efforts and if it brings about the truth then “YOU GO GIRL” but I for one do not see Misty as being innocent. I still feel like she truly knows what happened but for whatever reason is keeping her mouth shut. She is either covering her own backside, covering for Ron or is afraid to tell the truth due to threats. But hey, that is just one of my theories at this point.
Pursuant to section 958.04, F.S., the court may sentence as a YO any person:
(a) Who is at least 18 years of age or who has been transferred for prosecution to the criminal division of the circuit court pursuant to chapter 985;
(b) Who is found guilty of or who has tendered, and the court has accepted, a plea of nolo contendere or guilty to a crime that is, under the laws of this state, a felony if the offender is younger than 21 years of age at the time sentence is imposed; and
(c) Who has not previously been classified as a youthful offender under the provisions of chapter 985; however, a person who has been found guilty of a capital or life felony may not be sentenced as a YO under the Youthful Offender Act.
Since Misty has plead not guilty she cant get YO from what I am reading. Thats why Hopes attorney plead no contest so she would get YO.jmo
tobias said,
in April 7th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Pursuant to section 958.04, F.S., the court may sentence as a YO any person:
(a) Who is at least 18 years of age or who has been transferred for prosecution to the criminal division of the circuit court pursuant to chapter 985;
(b) Who is found guilty of or who has tendered, and the court has accepted, a plea of nolo contendere or guilty to a crime that is, under the laws of this state, a felony if the offender is younger than 21 years of age at the time sentence is imposed; and
(c) Who has not previously been classified as a youthful offender under the provisions of chapter 985; however, a person who has been found guilty of a capital or life felony may not be sentenced as a YO under the Youthful Offender Act.
Since Misty has plead not guilty she cant get YO from what I am reading. Thats why Hopes attorney plead no contest so she would get YO.jmo
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Thanks for the info….
Remember all what the definition of insanity is.
Doing the same thing over and over for 13 months and expecting a different result is insane. Come on I dare you all to do something different and look hard and long at the BIO mom and her family. The world needs to know who they are and what they have done. Push and see who pushes back. Demand justice and we will see justice served.
All the videos of the Croslins in the world are not going to find HaLeigh just give us something to blogg about. The drug charges will not lead us to where HaLeigh is hidden alive or not. That is going to take us looking at the right persons and it is not Misty nor Tommy.
Come on end it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They will eventually catch you in all of y’alls lies if they have not already. IMO LE knows it is you and someone close to you that took HaLeigh.
Where was CG that late night and early Morning? Why would MG on Febuary 23 lie and claim to know where you were? Why would she claim CG was 500 feet in front of her, asleep in your bed, next to crystal?
Tex…I don’t have any proof that the bio mom or her clan were involved. Are they off my radar…no ma’am…but they aren’t in my bullseye either. I don’t know why ANY of these people tell the lies they tell or why they haven’t been more forthcoming with info in an effort to find Haleigh! To me they all stink to high heaven and are the lowest forms of life on earth! Shame on ALL of them. But I’m not ready to focus solely on the bio-mom’s side. I have more unanswered questions about Misty, Ron, Joe and Tommy than I do about Crystal and company. Doesn’t mean I have tunnel vision but I have narrowed my sights a bit.
Tex – and remember, a lot of murderers have gotten away with their crimes for YEARS…and LE KNEW they had done it but couldn’t prove it….finally, maybe 5, 10 or even 30 years later they get the break they need. It is very possible LE is focused on Misty appropriately but don’t have the evidence they need to charge her….yet.
Does anyone else notice how Misty keeps talking about her tatoo(it itches) and the reason she got it was to prove she loved Ron and he could trust her? Trust her for what?
Not lying to him about Haleigh or to protect him? And according to her they were fixing their relationship when LE came and ruined it all. Makes you wonder what risks she would take to keep Ron doesnt it?jmo
How long did Misty and Ron date or live together before Haleigh went missing?
Not sure but I think it was 4 months. jmo
Well they met at the bus stop and the kids were in kindergarden so it would have been around 4 months. jmo
JB, A united front will be the tool to chisel away at the hardened heart that has HaLeigh hidden. I am not begging for my own personal agenda, but, for HaLeigh. She needs us JB…….. to look for her instead of talking about Tommys eyes and or Hopes dirty mouth.
The Sheffield made sure that they misdirected and threw enough dit and speculation our way to be distracted from asking and demading answers from them in the begining. Heck she even hired an attorney to improve her image based on lies and claimed that the children where abused and where unsafe in Ron’s home but claimed she just found out when HaLeigh was abducted, but, we know she was claiming this to DCF way before HaLeigh came up missing.. She was not labled a suspect, her distance and precieved unattentive parenting would of excluded her, so why the need for an attorney?
So like in October?
In November she left that comment to Amber “bitch i got ur man and i will have ur baby to”
Don’t you think that is a little strange since her and ronald had only dated for a month?
TexasMom:
I really don’t have facts enough to say anyone is or is not guilty in Haleigh’s disappearance.
People keep telling us to look at Crystal’s side of the family, but they have stayed so quiet. What do we look at? Actually, if anything makes me suspicious of them, it is the fact that they have stayed so quiet. Who could do that, if their little girl was missing? I couldn’t.
As far as the reason Marie Griffis would lie about Chad that morning, it could be the war between those two families. Each family thinking the other was trying to pin it on the other. I don’t know if Marie really knew Chad was out that morning or not.
One of the things that makes me wonder about Crystal’s side of the family was what Cobra said. He said when he started looking into the mother’s side of the family, that’s when things got really rough for him.
When someone wants us to look into that side of the family, it is just a repitition of the same few facts, over and over. However, I have not closed my mind to anyone or either side.
Tex – I’m sorry…I just can’t jump on the Crystal bandwagon with ya. Forgive me but I truly believe with local and state LE and the FBI that Crystal’s side has been checked out. And someone on Crystal’s side taking Haleigh does NOT explain all the bizarre behavior for Ron and Misty (as well as others). I have to follow my gut on this one and my focus goes right back to Misty (and Ron). That doesn’t mean I’m not keeping my eyes and ears open and won’t consider another theory….in fact, Crystal’s clan being behind this all is still one of my theories….it is just a LOT lower on my list. I can’t jump up and down and scream for Crystal and Company to tell the truth and come clean when I really don’t feel like they are responsible at this point. That could change but someone is going to have to show me more than they lied about Chad’s whereabouts that morning. In the scheme of things and with the number of lies that have been told in this fiasco that one worries me the least.
Texas Mom
There were no forced entry. How would Crystal and her Clan get in to get Haleigh?
I think there was alot of fighting going on with Misty and Amber, Ambers mom was even envolved at one point and so was Chelsea if you go look at the dockets. Makes you wonder what all happened to cause such fighting. jmo
I can’t go with the Crystal theory either. There is too much strange behavior from Misty & Ron. If anyone has reasons to suspect Crystal I would be glad to hear them but I’m just not seeing it.
Romewi – that’s where I’m at. I’ll be happy to entertain ANY theory and review any facts anyone has….but right now I’m not seeing it (The Crystal Clan Abduction Theory). Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen obviously because there is a LOT we don’t know. But what I do know of the case has me looking at Ron and Misty.
You know, I don’t think anyone has completely “decided” who is truly at fault here. We only can go by what is given, and that ain’t much. All the families have bizarre behavior patterns, it’s just that CS’s side is NOT in the forefront. And I will give LE the benefit of the doubt… if they didn’t check that side out earlier on before…. I believe they sure in the hell has, by NOW !!!
And Crystal had the attorney… by Cobra’s own admission, he called KP into this. Go and ask him why!!!!
What has me questioning the CS theory is Haleigh could show up today out of the blue and there would be no evidence to arrest any of them, so why is she still gone? The people who would have her could be long gone by the time LE could even get info out of Haleigh. And at that age she could only give so much.jmo
Mistysaid in the voice print test that they started dating Sept 18, 2008 and the clip of Misty sending the e-mail to Amber was dated Nov 2008. I believe at the end of the month around the 28th. Ron started at PDM near the end of October 2008. They must have lived with AS until Decmber when they moved into the mh on Green Lane, because on the e-mail address of Mistys to Amber it said she lived in Welaka, Fl.
It is still possible for the maternal side to have taken Haleigh. Dec 31 2009 and February at the anniversary event to mark the one year are the last two occassions that I have seen Crystal and Marie make a plea for Haleigh. I do agree they are very quiet. I still think at this point the answers lye in Satsuma With Misty and Ron.
What I dont get is Ron saying Jordan was possibly his son but signed the birth certificate? Who does that when they arent sure the kid is theirs or not? Wouldnt he wait for paternity tests since he would be accountable for child support by signing that he is the father?jmo
Where is Welaka Fl is it close to SATSUMA?
About 13 minutes drive. jmo
Welaka is approx 10- 12 miles west of Satsuma off 309.
Why would Crystal or her Clan take Haleigh? What would be the point?
Crystal & family may be quiet because LE has told them they know who did but are waiting on evidence. Just a thought.
Romewi , that could very well be the case.
I wonder if they will go to the trials for Ron and Misty? I know if I thought they knew something I would be sure to be there.jmo
It is true that ALL of the players in this case have done some VERY bizarre things and have ALL told lies. But what I can’t get past is the actions and words of the two people who were ultimately responsible for Haleigh, Ron and Misty. If you start at the beginning and follow the “trail” you never make it out of that MH. No matter what sideshows have popped up my thoughts and suspicions are drawn back to Misty and Ron….I’ve opened my mind to every other theory but it all points back at them. I truly believe they know what happened and are at some level responsible. I do not believe Haleigh is still living. It breaks my heart to say that but it is my honest opinion. Granted…that is ALL it is…opinion.
Whether someone on here thinks Misty ,Ron, Tommy, Joe or the Crystal Clan had something to do with Haleigh missing. It all comes down to We all want the same thing Haleigh found and the person or persons who done this to pay for what they have done.
KY – you got that right. I’m by no means saying I know for sure who did what. My gut just tells me that Ron and Misty know and are/were responsible. But I really don’t care WHO is at fault as long as the truth is someday found and the guilty party or parties face justice. Nothing would be better than for some well meaning person to have taken Haleigh to give her a better life…and that includes the Crystal Clan….any theory that ends with Haleigh being alive and well would be a WONDERFUL ending and I’d be HAPPY to eat my words! I pray that day comes….and soon.
JB…. I agree!!
See ya all later… got a 1 1/2 drive.
Bye B*A – Drive safely! 😀
I wonder if the Law enforcement found any evidence at the MH when they searched it. There had to be something. I guess maybe I watch forensic files to much. lol
– Bio-mom’s side had already called Wayanne Kruger and she was there at least a week before Cobra called KP who booted Wayanne out after making her sign a non-disclosure agreement.
– Motives? Years of animosity between MG and J/M Sheffield vs R. They were furious he got custody. Now, CS is engaged, having another kid, about to go to court (jail?) for $12,000 worth of custody payments. And as long as R had custody those payments would only grow. What judge is going to jail a deadbeat but grieving mom of a missing kid?
People have kidnapped kids for 1/4th the reasons that bio-mom’s side had. You can argue all you want. People are people and if all they accomplished was to make R look bad and maybe get custody of Jr because of it, maybe that’s what they wanted. And remember the first thing they did when KP arrived was to mount the campaign of hate against R, try to get custody of both children. AND try to get the custody payments stopped.
– As far as returning Haleigh. She is NOT too young to tell a lot about who she was with or her surroundings. It’s ridiculous to think she could not give LE some clues. Besides, CS just got TEMPORARY custody of Jr so it’s too early. It would LOOK like they’d done it for sure if Haleigh was returned now.
AND who says they EVER intended to return her?
Don’t you know the kind of spite and hate that could make it just fine that someone else has her as long as it’s not R?
KY Mom , They say physical evidence is what tells them that Mistys story is bogus.
I honestly do not know what hapeened to this beautiful little angel. I am thinking that drugs played a huge part in her disappearance. Which is truely sad.
I can understand some people not thinking the bio-mom’s theory is the most likely but I don’t think we can ignore or deny the facts of the situation to the point of pretending they had no reason to do it or pretending that if they did, then Haleigh would be back by now.
M2c I can honestly agree with your post. This could have happened. I am sure you could also agree that there has been bizarre behavior on both sides , more so on Rons. Crystal and Marie may have set out to make Ron look bad, but so far Ron has done a bang up job all by himself. Due to his actions Crystal now has temporary custody of their son. I can only hope the maternal side does have Haleigh because that is the only chance of her being alive. IMO
M2c, I can agree that your post holds some weight. I just don’t think the motives are strong enough… especially for MG to partake in this “possible” abduction!
If Crystal’s side did take her, she wouldn’t be an easy child to hide for very long with her Turner Syndrome. They would have to take her to a doctor sometime. A doctor would know the child has Turner Syndrome. Unless they convinced a doctor to go along with them, I have trouble seeing this happening.
I have thought of Johnny’s wife being a nurse(I believe that is true. She might be able to take care of the child’s medical needs for awhile, but she has been gone for a long time now. It would be getting harder and harder to hide her out.
Hi, Cent, if you thought what I do about MG’s “character,” it would not be difficult at all to envision her taking Haleigh out of that MH herself. (Not that she did. But I can see it).
Also, without appropriate drugs, Haleigh may suffer deformities later on as well as never mature in the ways a woman normally would. Right now, though, it may not be that noticeable. Who knows if she would be getting health care at all? Or home remedies or a quack doctor or nurse?
These are certainly not the most “far out” possibilities I’ve heard.
Those are some of the reasons that this theory is still on my list.
M2C, I meant that I can not see her doing it, because of “personal” ramifications. I don’t see her going out on a limb for anyone else!
m2c♥ said,in April 7th, 2010 at 4:06 pm I can understand some people not thinking the bio-mom’s theory is the most likely but I don’t think we can ignore or deny the facts of the situation to the point of pretending they had no reason to do it or pretending that if they did, then Haleigh would be back by now.
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IMO, the Sheffields/Griffis had the strongest motive to do this. I also think an SO is a strong possibility.
The longer this goes on, the less likely I think it is that Tommy or Misty know something about Haleigh’s whereabouts. There is no way they could fool even the dumbest LE for this length of time, and would have slipped by now. Plus, they don’t act in the sort of nervous way I would expect them to if they had been involved.
Whoever is responsible, I do hope they find Haleigh soon and that she is safe and well.
Karon,
Crystal couldn’t have been bothered to get out of bed to take Haleigh to specialist appointments, so I doubt that was a huge concern of theirs if they are behind this.
And I should have added…it seems the primary medicine she needed was an asthma inhaler….where I live you can buy those over the counter without a prescription.
M2c–Excellent post about the Sheffields. That”s why I have suspected them all along. They are being way too quiet! What police officer is going to tell me to keep my mouth shut when my daughter has been missing for over a year? Why start a foundation if you are not going to conduct searches–what would be the point in the foundation in the first place? Why hire an attorney if you are not mounting a defense? Most people abscond and abduct their children because of abuse issues–And what do they claim Ron did? Abuse Haleigh. Who did most of the television interviews–Ron and Misty (even though Misty was the primary focus since the beginning). I rarely saw Crystal, unless accompanied by Marie or KP. And whose dad claimed that Ron “stole” Haleigh? Crystal’s. Who owed the back child support, and who was to “lazy” to get up and take Haleigh to the doctor’s office? Crystal. And whose back child support was paid by a rich benefactor?Crystal again. Even though< I do not think Crystal played a part in the abduction, she might have played a part in the coverup. Don’t you think it is kind of odd that Crystal had inside knowledge of that lock on Ronald’s door, even though she was never inside the trailer? Like I said her silence has spoke volumes to me. No one–and I mean no one–would shut me up (matter of fact people would be tired of seeing my face on tv) if my daughter has been gone for over a year, without a trace. I would be at the jail talking to the teen babysitter (pulling her hair out if I had to. I would be at the police station getting updates and I would conduct searches until I couldn’t walk, or until I found her!
me said,in April 7th, 2010 at 6:34 pm Karon,
Crystal could’t have been bothered to get out of bed to take Haleigh to specialist appointments, so I doubt that was a huge concern of theirs if they are behind this.
*************************************************** For a mom that didn’t give a poop about her kids she sure was taking photos with Connie in November and presenting them to DCF prior to Haleigh’s abduction as evidence of abuse in the home by Ron or Misty. I would not doubt it was one of Crystals complaints that her children slept in the same room or in Ron’s room that prompted the DCF investigation and recommendation that Ron move into a 3 bedroom on Green Lane. DCF did not do anything about her complaints and she was facing jail time and in my opinion Crystal does not act like she has lost her child, but, has made her self the victim.
There is a possibility……. they never intended HaLeigh to come home.
If that is the case it is defiantly for money (insurance). A body found years later can reveal little or no evidence to give LE a suspect unless it is a SO. No body in 7 years they collect,but, I would imagine they couldn’t wait 7 years and I do expect they will need Haleigh’s body to be found at the right time for them to benefit and get away with murder..
I cant believe some would rather look over the stuff staring them right in the face, Misty;s lies, Ronalds odd ways, the failed LTD’s, the marriage, the supposingly divorce, all that crap, and blame the Mothers side, it just doesnt make sense, the opening of the HaLeigh center was not to do searches, it was never to do searches, it was for tips to be called in annonomously, it was for people to come to that had other missing people in their lives to share what they had been going through, for people to show their concern and to leave things for HaLeigh and to spread her name.
Misty is the guilty party in all this her and whoever she is hiding things for, and they just need to tell the truth and let HaLeigh be found.,.
jojo said,
in April 7th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
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The HaLeighBug Foundation actually was to help aid in finding HaLeigh. The following is directly quoted from the Articles of Incorporation that were filed with the state when the Foundation was registered. You can find them at sunbiz (dot) org
Article III.
The specific purpose for which this corporation is organized is:
TO AID THE SEARCH FOR MISSING CHILD HALEIGH CUMMINGS AND/OR THE FAMILIES OF OTHER MISSING OR ABDUCTED CHILDREN.
Again, you can find this document online at sunbiz (dot) org
I am curious how the Foundation has aided in the search for HaLeigh. Not saying that Crystal or her family took HaLeigh, but I am saying the Foundation doesn’t appear to have aided in the search for HaLeigh (that I can see)
J,
Thank you for that.
I recall when they were actively soliciting donations through their website, it specifically said that the money was to assist Crystal with her living expenses (or words to that effect). Very very dodgy, imo. And the haste with which it was formed, has long had me deeply suspicious of that side of the family.
CS did not have her wits about her enough to inquire when the custody court hearing was. Sure, Ron didn’t tell her, but why didn’t the court tell her? Why didn’t she call and ask? I don’t think this family is smart enough to keep something like this going.
I will say this, if it comes out that MC does know what happened to Haleigh, then you can count on that Haleigh is no longer with us. If the child was alive and MC knew where she was she would talk, or RC would have said where she is. I’d love to believe that the bio-mom was able to cook up some elaborate scheme, and Haleigh is alive somewhere happy, going to school, and getting ready for summer fun. I just can’t imagine it. Look back on some of CS’s press conference when she asked for Haleigh to please be returned. Look how difficult it was for her to talk through all the tears. RC’s tears are the only ones I’ve seen that were insincere.
Shockwave,
I totally agree.
Shockwave, I agree that CS would not be able to do this. The key to giving some credibility to the theory that the bio-mom’s side did it is to realize that CS does NOTHING. Her MOTHER does! MG is perfectly capable of arranging this and even carrying it out herself.
CS is just the dopey dupe. And Johnny/Marty Sheffield is also perfectly capable.
Hi, Cent!
Look at MG – she’s a tough nut. Look at Johnny/Marty Sheffield. Same. They both had a bad relationship with R from the get-go.
Now MG’s daughter, CS, who embarrassingly lost custody of her own kids, and was forced by the courts to pay custody (but did not) is going to court, possibly jail, over the unpaid custody payments AND she is engaged and having someone else’s baby.
I can see MG and J/M Sheffield (or at least MG) cooking up this plan very easily.
Why are they quiet now? They’ve got what they wanted.
jojo said,in April 7th, 2010 at 9:48 pm I cant believe some would rather look over the stuff staring them right in the face, Misty;s lies, Ronalds odd ways, the failed LTD’s, the marriage, the supposingly divorce, all that crap, and blame the Mothers side, it just doesnt make sense,
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jojo I have been looking at all of the crap since day one and it is my opinion that the Bio moms crap doesn’t make sense.
Can anyone imagine how Ron felt when he witnessed CS and her family set up a tent in that trailer park and started asking that community for money, raffleing off a truck, setting out donation cans in every gas staiton, selling t-shirts and braclets, but, had not paid a dime of childsupport? How can anyone overlook that callous and selfish behavior?
m2c♥
Morning, I honestly believe she is a part of the whole thing from the begining (started many months before HaLeighs abduction) and she will be there when it ends with dirty hands as well.
All the RSO in the area had police officers in their home the first hour after the 911 call, why wasn’t LE in CS and MG home that first hour? I bet you HaLeigh was there. No wonder it took them for ever to get to Satsuma that morning, they had to hide HaLeigh.
The search that was conducted at the Griffis farm was expensive and manned by many counties and the public was lead to believe that it was done at the families request and to clear their name many months later.
Does everyone buy that BS? Why not search TN or GGMS to clear their name as well.
They searched the trailer and every home in HaLeighs neighborhood and that didn’t clear Ron or Misty or Tommy. IMO what clears someone is a thoroughly investigation and that is what is needed to be done with the S/G family and friends since the beginning.
It took me a little while to respond to the following comment made:
“Can anyone imagine how Ron felt when he witnessed CS and her family set up a tent in that trailer park and started asking that community for money, raffleing off a truck, setting out donation cans in every gas staiton, selling t-shirts and braclets, but, had not paid a dime of childsupport?”
I wanted to check my facts before I responded. If you go back to the initial reports of when Haleigh went missing the tent set up in RC’s yard was an actual Command Center called the Child Abduction Regional Response Team implemented by Florida Department of Law Enforcement at Putnam County’s request. It was NOT initiated by Marie Griffis or anyone on the bio-mom’s side of the family.
Within a response team like this, and I only know this because I have recently had to take training courses on Incident Command stuff, there is a Public Relations Chief. This person would be responsible for helping out the family, dealing with media, and getting out information to the public regarding Haleigh. FOP
shockwave, that is true. However MG and family moved down the street, set up their own tent, and opened for cash sale business.
Hey M2C, I get where you’re coming from, I just think that MG is too wrapped up in herself to have deep enough feelings for someone else… so deep that she would risk her freedom.
Yeah, but that was about 24 days after Haleigh went missing, and because the person who owns the property was kicking them off the property. So, they moved their camp to where Equasearch was set up for volunteer search teams. I’m sure they were still able to retain some of the same materials used at the previous camps. There was a team of people either by LE or Equasearch helping both families figure out what they were suppose to do now, and just like any other family would they did.
Hey guys, in case you don’t know…there is new audio posted on April 7th.
As far as the Sheffields/Griffis being quiet now… I don’t know! They have always been quite quiet, isn’t that part of the reason that they are suspected?
How did you miss all the information and videos of the Sheffield’s tent at the entrance of that trailer park?
If you get the time read the Bar complaint. In these legal documents KP tells you everything… about MG’s activities in collecting money from day one. In fact KP called it an organized effort and that was all accomplished before KP and without her help. A truck was raffled off within weeks and all proceeds where given to CS( organized by MG.
MG greed was obvious to KP and after everything was said and done it was MG who got rid of KP because KP continuesly advised MG to stop her organized campaign’s (misdirecting the search for HaLeigh and the panhandeling from the public)
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in April 8th, 2010 at 10:20 am Hey M2C, I get where you’re coming from, I just think that MG is too wrapped up in herself to have deep enough feelings for someone else… so deep that she would risk her freedom.
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cent, I think you have hit on something….. MG’s and CS’s problem.
Overview
Narcissistic personality disorder is a condition in which there is an inflated sense of self-importance and an extreme preoccupation with one’s self.
Symptoms
A person with narcissistic personality disorder:
•Reacts to criticism with rage, shame, or humiliation
•Takes advantage of other people to achieve his or her own goals
•Has feelings of self-importance
•Exaggerates achievements and talents
•Is preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, beauty, intelligence, or ideal love
•Has unreasonable expectations of favorable treatment
•Requires constant attention and admiration
•Disregards the feelings of others, lacks empathy
•Has obsessive self-interest
•Pursues mainly selfish goals
Treatment
Psychotherapy may help the affected person relate to others in a more positive and compassionate manner.
LOL, sounds like some of the bloggers I have seen in this case.
Mental illness is something I see exhibited in both MG’s and CS’s behavior. It is another reason I tend to believe HaLeigh may not be with us any more, because, we have seen mothers just like this kill their own children for personal gain.
TJ you should remember that interview you did at the HBH with CS and how her self inflated importance effected you.
The interview revealed IMO of how a mother holds it together when she has something to hide not the behavior of a mother who has lost “HER” child. By the way that it how she referred to HaLeigh. She never mentions her little girls name, nor does she take that opportunity at that time and in the very place set up for and beg for Haleigh’s return.
It was months before KP came around to support CS. As far as CS or MG quickly turning out fliers, bracelets, etc., Duh! A child is missing, and you have to act quickly. If they donated a truck to raffle off in effort to raise funds for the Find Haleigh camp then good for them. That means they cared more about Haleigh than they did about some dumb butt materialistic truck.
KP is pissed because she made herself look like an idiot, and now she’s trying to make up for that. No one wants an idiot for a lawyer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7K6735eHxY
I thouht I would refresh our memory. Thank you TJ.
Shockwave said,in April 8th, 2010 at 11:03 am It was months before KP came around to support CS. As far as CS or MG quickly turning out fliers, bracelets, etc., Duh! A child is missing, and you have to act quickly. If they donated a truck to raffle off in effort to raise funds for the Find Haleigh camp then good for them. That means they cared more about Haleigh than they did about some dumb butt materialistic truck.
KP is pissed because she made herself look like an idiot, and now she’s trying to make up for that. No one wants an idiot for a lawyer.
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OK I respect your position, but,your above statement is not factual. KP showed up around march 11th. Fliers yes but selling merchandise and begging for donations was not a normal reaction/response to this situation under Crystals circumstances, in fact it was offensive and down right criminal,IMPO. She did live in that community, she did not have custody nor did she pay court ordered child support for 3 years. Sorry, IT is offensive to me that she solicited that money after making her self the victim in front of cameras and then behind an attorney and never was a mother to begin with that cared enough about providing for her babies.
Her is the proof.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9E_2VjSboM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4fi4CGP89A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybLiwshayRo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E32-t1uLY_M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6ZDrTHoIhY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha3luOp4eEA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sAYN7hq9Xs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyxmvJEsGss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbxuO5t84zo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIcq_LYxz3o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLbtgwTxEw0
This should be enough, if not I can find them all.
jojo said,
in April 7th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
I cant believe some would rather look over the stuff staring them right in the face, Misty;s lies, Ronalds odd ways, the failed LTD’s, the marriage, the supposingly divorce, all that crap, and blame the Mothers side, it just doesnt make sense, the opening of the HaLeigh center was not to do searches, it was never to do searches, it was for tips to be called in annonomously, it was for people to come to that had other missing people in their lives to share what they had been going through, for people to show their concern and to leave things for HaLeigh and to spread her name.
Misty is the guilty party in all this her and whoever she is hiding things for, and they just need to tell the truth and let HaLeigh be found.,
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Yes it was set up to search for Haleigh and not one cent went towards that and you know that boo. I could do a list of the strange stuff the other side did but why bother
Shockwave said,
in April 8th, 2010 at 11:03 am
It was months before KP came around to support CS. As far as CS or MG quickly turning out fliers, bracelets, etc., Duh! A child is missing, and you have to act quickly. If they donated a truck to raffle off in effort to raise funds for the Find Haleigh camp then good for them. That means they cared more about Haleigh than they did about some dumb butt materialistic truck.
KP is pissed because she made herself look like an idiot, and now she’s trying to make up for that. No one wants an idiot for a lawyer.
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I remember reading that they went to the beauty parlor and had their nails done with the money from the truck raffle and something else and that was before HBC was set up so none of that money in the month and a half is accounted for.
I wish someone would tell me what money paid for any searches
KP is pissed because she made herself look like an idiot, and now she’s trying to make up for that. No one wants an idiot for a lawyer.
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KP is covering her a@@, she thinks she is smarter than the average attorney. She will take a fall when it is all said and done and she knows it.
Cobra is smart… he know this will not blow over and the truth will be revealed and he had a unknowing part in some crimes that where committed in the cover up of HaLeighs abduction by the CS and MG. He has made a deal to stay out of PC for a year and not to investigate HaLeighs abduction.
IMO, Cobra made a deal and gave LE something they wanted in return, it seems to be the norm in that jurisdiction.
What would Cobra have to make a deal with and get a years probation under the terms he received.? HHHMMM anyone want to explore the possibilities there.
Crystal, where is HaLeigh?
TxMom, I sure wish you would register on the forum I would like to send you a personal message.
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Texasmommy39 said,in April 8th, 2010 at 8:44 am
jojo I have been looking at all of the crap since day one and it is my opinion that the Bio moms crap doesn’t make sense.
Can anyone imagine how Ron felt when he witnessed CS and her family set up a tent in that trailer park and started asking that community for money, raffleing off a truck, setting out donation cans in every gas staiton, selling t-shirts and braclets, but, had not paid a dime of childsupport? How can anyone overlook that callous and selfish behavior?
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Bingo! My thoughts exactly. And within a month had a Foundation started in her name and ma and Crystal had careers as president and vice president. I think they probably watched NG and saw how much money the As made out of Caylee, and wanted the same for themselves….imo.
treece said,in April 8th, 2010 at 2:59 pm TxMom, I sure wish you would register on the forum I would like to send you a personal message.
*************************************************I registered ,but, have no idea how to use pm or check mail. I have tried for the last 20 min. I just figured out twitter and am private. Very selective of my “twitter acquaintance’s”
Txmom, I don’t twitter. I sent you a PM here on the forum so that will show you how it works. It will send you an email to let you know there is a PM in your inbox here on the forum.
Romewi said,in April 6th, 2010 at 1:12 pm The one thing that I got from the videos is that Lyndsey is mad at Misty but yet Tommy doesn’t seem to be mad at Misty. You would think if he was innocent that he would be so mad at her for accusing him.
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Romewi, maybe Tommy is used it from her. Seriously, she doesn’t take any responsibility for anything. Most likely, she has been this way her whole life. Tommy just might have been the one she blamed for everything during their entire childhood.
In the newer audio tapes (in the more recent article) Tommy does seem as if he has had it with Misty and her lies. There is no way to know how much time has passed between the vids above and the audio recordings in the newer article. But Tommy does not sound at all happy with Misty, even says he does not care about her anymore.
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