I have not even had time to watch these videos. I have no clue if they contain any useful information or not. This is yet more Misty Croslin and her father Hank Croslin.
Because of the size of the files I have abandoned YouTube and am just hosting the sound files here on Bloggernews. I know this will upset several web sites who love to steal content, but unfortunately time is of the essence, and this is the fastest method available.
These are large files, they are just over 30 meg each, and contain about 30 minutes of conversation each.
Here is One
Here Is Two
OH, the second one is a gem!
The exact date of this conversation is unknown, however it was between Feb 17 and Mar 4.
As I noted in an earlier article, we have three more DVD’s waiting for us in St Augustine. We hope to have them in our possession tomorrow. They cover the March 5 through March 20 period. I suspect that they might be quite interesting.
Simon Barrett
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Certainly worth listening to! Peggy Cone told Hank they’re wrapping it up in the next few weeks. Hank is freaking. Cone told him he couldn’t see Lindsay’s kids. I’m wondering if they are suspecting Hank Sr? Hmmm. Lots left to listen to.
Thnk you Simon
Sry, thnk u to all tht are hanging in there as BNN tries to bring you th latest.
justice for Haleigh is short and soon to taste soooooo sweeeeet!
Hey! Thank you soooooooo very much for posting these! You guys are completely above the rest with keeping us on top of this case, words can never cover how much we appreciate it! Xoxoxo, big hugs headed your way!
anyone who listens to these tapes, now knows Misty had nothing to do with Haleigh gone missing.. these drug charges were ‘set up’ by law enforcement because they BUNGLED the Haleigh investigation..the inept police have made a SCAPEGOAT of the babysitter, they have vilified her in press conferences and on the Nancy Grace show, these bumbling idiots have disgraced the constitution by ‘TRUMPING UP’ charges against Misty, her family and her posse. For SHAME on florida law enforcement!
what did she say… after i wont say a name
OJ’s glove said,
in April 7th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
anyone who listens to these tapes, now knows Misty had nothing to do with Haleigh gone missing.. these drug charges were ’set up’ by law enforcement because they BUNGLED the Haleigh investigation..the inept police have made a SCAPEGOAT of the babysitter, they have vilified her in press conferences and on the Nancy Grace show, these bumbling idiots have disgraced the constitution by ‘TRUMPING UP’ charges against Misty, her family and her posse. For SHAME on florida law enforcement!
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roflmao! Good one. There is no way in hell you could mean any of what you said, right? I seriously hope you are kidding because if you aren’t-I am frightened for you and your denial.
Amazing how Misty doesn’t want to talk about Tommy NOT being involved. And Lindsay having/making an excuse for Lisa NOT to see the kids!
TracyM: it is you who DENY truth..you wouldn’t know ‘common sense’ if it slapped you in the face.
OJ’s glove said,
in April 7th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
TracyM: it is you who DENY truth..you wouldn’t know ‘common sense’ if it slapped you in the face.
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Bwahahaha! You’re on a roll tonight with the comic relief.
I guess with a name like OJ’s Glove I shoulda figured you’d be a little off.
OJ’s innocent too huh?
Bwahahaha! Too funny.
In all seriousness, I feel sorry for you when the truth does come out. You’ll be so embarrassed. I promise not to say *I told you so*
Simon and Jan-thanks again for the video/audio. Goodnight.
wonderful idea, thank you
WRONG!! the real “OJ’s glove” was PLANTED! Now do you get it? The police.. plant evidence, tamper with evidence, give you drugs then offer to buy the drugs, arrest your family, have them appear in court on the same day, (what a coincidence) villify you on national TV, do every dirty trick imaginable to trash an 18 year old uneducated babysitter who knows NOTHING! LE wants to distract from their bumbling idiocy in the bungling of the search for Haleigh..Wakw up Tracy..use common sense (4 once)
These were good tapes, very interesting. Hank says Misty told them something, and I would think that was when she wrote the letter about Tommy and Joe.
If there is anything to find out, LE is going to find it out, if they have to crush the whole family. Of course, the family keeps giving them plenty of ammunition. It is getting really bad when they are threatening to take Lindsey’s kids if Misty’s mom and dad goes to see them. It sounds like they are pressuring Lindsey, too.
I hope Lyndsey doesn’t get wrapped up in all of this, before it is over. She has those children to think of.
I grew up my entire life hearing stories of the crooked South. The killer cops, curupt Judges, and evil politicians. As I grew older I considered the possibility that the stories were bias considering they came from my Father and its my Mothers side of the family that comes from there. With what I hear of trickery, out landish bonds that show true colors, the hate and manipulation press releases and the desire to end a life I now see he has told me those stories out of his desire to protect me, Putnam LE and Jason you proved him right.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
Yes, by all means…rampage, rip & steal, sell drugs, buy drugs, do drugs, carry drugs in your car with your toddler son…do anything you want, then when you get caught you can blame LE…..:)
I enjoyed these, thank you again.
L
So is Misty saying they tricked her into taking a LD test?
Why does she keep saying I didn’t do anything wrong?
They have her on video selling drugs.
Ky Mom, that is exactly what she is saying as to the “tricking her into taking the LD test”. That is a crock of crap because she talked about taking it before it was ever given. The problem is that she is afraid of losing her attorney and has to lie about it. Or at least apparently that is the way that she thinks.
I also don’t believe for a minute that Cousin Joe would be out walking around if LE had any thought at this point in time that he had anything to do with Haleigh missing.
I don’t understand why she didn’t say cousin Joe from the get go. Why wait to tell this info.
Hello no one put her in jail but herself. The police didn’t make her sell drugs.
Native Alien:
A great many people agree with you about Cousin Joe, and yet what are the odds that this child vanishes from the face of the earth the very day that a known sex offender from another state was in her home? An offender, I might add, who fled Florida early the next morning.
I believe that what Misty is afraid to tell is that she never awoke to find Haleigh missing. Rather, she came home to find her missing. She left the door unlocked for herself so that she wouldn’t risk being seen coming home through the front door.
According to Misty, twenty-five minutes transpired from the time she discovered that Haleigh was missing. Why wait at all? If she waited twenty-five minutes, who can say that she didn’t wait and hour, or two hours?
The two most credible witnesses in this case are the human remains detection dogs. As soon as they “hit” on the dumpster, I’d have taken the dogs to search the trunk of every car and the bed of every truck of any individual Ron and Misty had ever come in contact with. I believe, and no one will ever convince me otherwise, that Haleigh, at least for a short time, was in that dumpster, then someone thought better of it and moved her.
Rest in peace, sweet Haleigh.
Ky Mom ,The whole Croslin family did point the finger on Cousin Joe since the beginning. He keeps coming up. I believe there is something LE knows and they need it confirmed. LE knows I believe that Misty has that info and that is the reason for all the pressure. They are working her from every angle, including her family. Misty said in her voice print that Cousin Joe did not know his way around, He had no transportation of his own and that he would know how to get to where she and Ron lived because Ronald invited him over. Either he took Chelsea and Timmys van alone or someone would have had to drive him over there. He was staying with Mistys brother Timmy. They lived in Pomona Park close to Crescent City. That is approx 12 – 15 miles south of Satsuma.
Simon,
Do you think you might can upload just audio files on Tommy’s new tapes. The 2nd video has no sound. I don’t care about seeing him and his crazy eyes I’d just like to listen….
Thanks
I just read my post again, and realized I’d made one point rather sloppily. What I meant was, there was purportedly a twenty five minute lapse between the discovery and the police being contacted. I believe that Haleigh might have been missing several hours before her disappearance was reported. I believe that Misty waited until the children were asleep, then went “out to play.” One thing we do know is that the abducter has a propensity toward little girls, as Junior was in the same room, and was left untouched.
Would Haleigh have felt comfortable leaving with cousin Joe?
I don’t think Misty said from the beginning that cousin Joe came and took Haleigh over a gun. I don’t think the police would have let him leave the state without questioning him. JMO
Of course NONE of the Croslins have done anything wrong! WHATEVER, I guess doing drugs, buying drugs, stealing and lieing are not against the law in their eyes!
Why is it taking so long to get the vids up….?????? The pressure is surely rolling on these people,,,who think just because they broke the law, they dont deserve to be in jail,,,Hank sr is delusional as well as his kids…When hearing he wanted to work with kids I thought I was going to lose it…Yea, this man who doctor ashopped for drugs, lived in the house with his wifey and son going out a robbing everyone in their neighborhood,,,selling drugs,,doing drugs,,,all in front of Lindsys kids,,,she should be scared of loseing those kids..she knew what everyone was doing…how did she think she was getting all this new stuff to fancy up her house…..trust me,,,she knew……..IMO
COW Girl
I know they blame other people for them being in jail. Which their bond is a little high. She said she wrote the Governor of Fl. but when the news station called the Governor’s office they said they had not received a letter .. I mean what would the letter say. THEY MADE ME DO IT>lol
……hello cruel world!
“If I have seen farther than others, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants.”
R.I.P Haleigh (accepting terms)
Hey guys,are ya here…..LoL
My dsl was down all day yisterdey.LoL Aand they’ll be here today from 12-3 rewiring or somethun’ What else have i missed and the big ? is..what am i about to miss??
Ky Mom you are correct. That was not the story Misty told in the beginning ( about Tommy and Joe and the gun). That story is BS! They just blamed him from the start. I am not sure if there was a reason that came out besides the fact he left that very morning. I wonder when it was though when the clip of Misty and Joe putting up fliers of Haleigh was done? Joe had to wait for his girlfriend to come pick him up. It does not sound like an express exit. It was reported that he had already planned to leave that day by AH. Little Jr. said something about hearing the couch bounce. I wonder if it was Misty and Joe causing the couch to bounce and Haleigh got up and saw them?
The only thing wrong with what I posted above is t does not explain Rons behavior throughout this case.
Justice,thats what i have always believed,dunno if it was Joe but i do feel and always have felt that those blankets had another mans dna on them……maybe Haleigh woke up and caught them and she could tell daddy,Jr said a man in black or a black man,and couch bouncing…….Those blankets play a bigger part than we know in my opinion!
Justice,true too,but maybe because there was so much Misty could tell on him but it still doesn’t seem logical to me,but something is too weird..acting like they weren’t together but clearly were during the drug tapes,the tattoo Misty got…….too weird!
CathyJo, It is sooo great too see you back. I do think you are right about the blankets playing a big part in this case. Maybe LE got DNA off of those blankets. I wonder if they got DNA from Joe and that is why he is not in jail yet?
I am running out real quick, but I will be back in a few.
Makes me wonder why he married the one person who was accused of knowing more but wasn’t telling,unless theres another reason for it!!Misty may not know but the point is…….Misty is the key b/c she was responsible for Haleigh that night,I dunno why she doesn’t understand that!
Hey…. The CoUcH was BoUnChInG… I believe that one. I can not say if it was Joe, but I do think that was prob a norm for Misty.
Lindsy got that visit from DCFS and you can bet her relatives want their grandkids away from the Croslins too. She better wise up or she could be in for a battle if she goes against DCFS if they dont want known drug addicts around the kids. And yes Lisa has on her probation that she is to be drug tested monthly, that means she was using. Thats also why they tested her, remember when she said they were there to do it when she talked with Tommy.jmo
It all comes back to Haleigh. She believes she is in jail because of Haleigh not the drugs. She believes she can’t be bailed out or move on to Juvie until the Haleigh issue is resolved. She does not understand the ramifications of her involvement with the drug selling, so she keeps saying she did not “do nothing.”
Its kinda like self hypnosis. If you tell yourself something over and over , it becomes the truth in their world. Sorry Croslins you are in our world and on video to boot.jmo
I personally do feel that the drug case was only followed up on because of HaLeigh. I think had there not been a “HaLeigh”, none of this would have seen the light of day. And of course, she’s guilty of drug junk, I don’t buy the “set-up” angle at all. I just think under “normal” circumstances in that county… they would have skated.
Misty knows even before she is to take the poly that she is going to fail. That in itself tells us the story she is telling is false.
And why does she think she can say those things about Tommy and Lindsy will be alright with it? jmo
Tobias, they are all twisted souls… all of them, including Lindsay.
If Lindsy gave Tommy an alibi for that night then she may be in trouble too for lying to the police. This may be why they are coming down on her hard and why she is mad at Misty. jmo
Hank is aloof and completely irresponsible, but I don’t get a “sexual creep” vibe from him.
Tobias – I read an article (I’m not going to copy and paste after Simon told us about the Art Harris issue) about Misty and Ron taking their 1st poly. In the article it said that the police said that they are “satisfied” with the results of the poly. Then a year later you hear that MC has failed all poly’s. I’m wondering about the whole, “well we got to pin this on somebody” thing. Maybe they are pushing this off on MC? I don’t know it is so confusing. That is why I’m in favor of the facts only instead of all the BS some people put out there.
Tobias, you just may be right… remember that vid of Lindsay going in to be questioned, and Tommy was already in jail. Lindsay, said something about her time-line no being “right”. (paraphrasing)
I cant believe Hank says Joe is crazy now , what about when he was staying for 2 weeks in Timmys home with 2 little girls who are Hanks grandchildren? Funny how he was okay then but now hes crazy. I feel that LE knows alot more about things than we give them credit for and I hope its near the end too. jmo
I remember that video BA. I wondered about that too.
Shock,
Yeah now that Tobias mentioned a “alibi” for Tommy, then what Misty says contradicts what Lindsay says… LE puts the screws to Lindsay, thats why she gives up info on the home robberies.
Even what Tommy says, probably contradicts what Lindsay says.
Didnt Lindsy have some kind of siezure too around the time Hank and Tommy got into a physical fight supposedly over DVDs? HMMM JMO
If anyone believes that Hank may have hurt Haleigh then why doesn’t someone start asking Lindsy’s kids if Paw Paw hurt them? Or is it only about the drug issues?
I believe they are trying to get more money from the stupid people who have been sending them money before. Misty even tells her Dad there is a package that needs to be picked up or it gets sent back.(from some guy who sent one before).Also if Hank would have had insurance he would be paid money from them.jmo
Yes, Tobias….she did. I remember this because I had made a half joking post about the 3 woman who suddenly started experiencing siezures: Lindsy, CS, & Snodgrass Ex
Lindsey was hospitalized and then all of the Croslins fought in her hospital room and TC got arrested or at least 911 called against him within 2 days of her return home for DV.
And didnt Tommy tell him he drove trashed to stingers the night he was arrested? I guess it only applies when its one of them who gets hurt? They need to wake up and tell Misty she got them into this by not telling the real story from the beginning.jmo
Standing Ovation for Tobias on last post!!!
I 2nd that!!!
theres something called “innocent til proven guilty” tobias..Misty sits in jail ‘innocent’ with a bail of 1.3 mil? Robert Blake was charged with murder and he bailed out for 1 mil, does that sound fair to you? Its called being made the fallguy, the patsy, the scapegoat for LE’s inept bungling of the haleigh investigation..SHAME on LE!
Yea, good question Tobias….where is there $10,000 check? Florida is no-fault instead of tort method. This means that no matter who is at fault, all parties get paid for damages as long as insured.
I’m wondering if part of Sr’s problems were getting in trouble for not being insured. Otherwise, their agency would be handing them a check.
Something is not right about that accident because didnt Chelsea say the reason Timmy and she were up that night was to get things settled about the car insurance? jmo
LOL…OJ
No, it’s called the sooner you tell what you REALLY know, the sooner everything gets easier.
Personally, I think ALL criminals should get this treatment. Especially if it has to do with a missing child, especially such a young child.
Where did they say they lived before? I’d like to do a search to see if they were in any trouble before they moved.
Just catching back up. Misty knows and she needs to come off of it!! These tapes are a month old and who knows maybe she has by now. I just hope this is near the end and we find out what happened to Haleigh!!! I still believe drugs are what surrounds Haleighs disappearance.
I mean, it’s not liked they moved to Putnam County and then they started committing crimes.
Michingan, Flagler Beach, Tenn
Thank you very much HollysGmom!
The Real Armondo;
Hey! It sounds like you may have heard something while picking up those DVDs. Hmmm? 🙂
Yesterday was slated to be the last Memorial bridge search day…anything ever found?
YW 🙂
Could be why they were searching Memorial Bridge too. LE is known for not being truthful to the public we saw that when they drained the pond. jmo
Tobias;
I totally agree. I’ve spoken with several “locals” both Putnam & Volusia and they all (the one’s I’ve spoken with) believe that search to be Haleigh related. They ALL feel that since Volusia has their own divers and they are not included in this search that it is Haleigh related rather than Boehm.
HGM, I sure would like to know Mistys real involvement with J.Miller, some people have claimed she was abused by him but I dont see where they had any real facts on that. jmo
Shock… who is implying that Hank Sr. did some bad things!!??
I can hardly wait for the next set of audios/videos. We will finally hear what they’ve been up to since everything went quiet.
I think that the bridge search must have born fruit. I feel that is why there is new releases of jail audios all of a sudden. Seems like too much of a coinky dink. Stone silence for almost a month and then bridge search followed by release of new audios. Hmmm. ALso suddenly releasing the rest of the audios to catch us up to date.
Does anybody else feel it is too coincidental to be a random release?
I think Misty or TC talked, gave location of object and that is why the search began. When they found what they wanted, they proceeded.
Just because they made it look like they were searching for days doesn’t mean they didn’t find what they were looking for right away and just kept going back to keep others guessing.
I think its just the drug issues and criminal element that follows these people as being the reason they arent allowed to be around Lindsys kids. jmo
HGM, Didnt they drive Ron over the bridge to get to court and then back again? jmo
Tobias, I agree with you. On the drug issues and criminal element. It would be safer to keep the children at a distance for now and see what comes up out of this mess.
Tobias,
I’ve been wondering if that whole thing will get a review following this case.
If Misty is implicated in Haleigh’s disappearance/death will others still have a problem with that issue being questioned? WHat if she actually killed Haleigh? Casey’s sex life as a teenager has been talked about openly as well as other “crimes” she may have been involved in. WIll MIsty be given different treatment?
Also when Lisa stole the purse the kids may have been with her. Not a good way to have your grandkids see first hand how grammy steals. jmo
Tobias;
I think that may be it. It is very common for people to use kids to rip stores off and/or they were with her when she stole the purse. That would prevent her from being able to be around them now.
HGM, LE knows what happened in that case because they have the right to look into sealed records in an investigation. I wondered if some of the info made them even suspect her more? jmo
I’m going to dig for Sr wreck info…remind me again…where did it happen?
I don’t think the J. Miller thing should be explored. Unless it turns out that she’s charged with harming HaLeigh, then I can see her defense bringing that up as a possible revenge crime, meaning Misty was set-up in retaliation.
tobias when you repeatedly bring up J miller and try to pry info about a CHILD who was raped – and insinuate it was the CHILDs fault you show your heart bigger than Dallas and it is NOT pretty. God forbid that your daughter is ever in that situation but if she is I hope the nosy ass people around her have more compassion then to try to dig up the gore of a rape.
It is a closed case because she was a minor! A judge ruled that a minor, JMiller, would be tried as an adult because it was so brutal. That info is enough to say it wasn’t some little offense. NO it couldn’t have been stat rape because he was a minor too. Surely to God you can find something better to do than this. There are many people on this blog who have had sexual abuse and do not appreciate this ludicrous treatment about such horrific wounds.
HGM,Idont remember but it had to have been close because he ended up at Shands.jmo
Hi Beautiful;
What I was thinking is that it might come into play as to Misty’s penchant for lying to LE. ALso could show she has no problem pointing fingers to buy her way out of trouble.
I am just saying there is no facts that Misty was raped or anything in the J. Miller case she was just to testify. About what we dont know because he took the plea. Everyone assumes she was a hurt party when we know nothing of the sort.jmo
Ok….IF MIsty is convicted of murdering Haleigh….IT WILL COME UP!
tobias, yes there were facts, she was treated at at hospital. Do you think a judge is stupid enough to just take her word for it and try a minor as an adult based on hearsay???? Get real!!! This is freaking wrong!!!! How would you feel in her shoes??? It is this kind of behavior and stinking, heartless thinking that many girls won’t even report being raped!!!!
Hello Holly and BAC. Hope all is well with you both.
Also why would Hank want Misty to have stayed in Tenn. the last time she was there if Joe is the one they think did this? His mother lives with GMa Hollar. Really? They are getting bad with the lies now.jmo
HGmom, that is alot of if’s and IF that happens it will be a judge who makes that decision. In the mean time it has NOT a damn thing to do with Haleigh. The abuse you tell about should make you even more compassionate to someone else.
This is freaking wrong. We have been through this same crap on BNN many times. Some poster have left over it and I am ready to be next. This is flat cruel and perverted!!!!
Hey, Looking, how are you?… can you guys believe that I have another sinus infection!
The J. miller thing… well, lets leave it alone. It really has no bearing on the current issues at hand. If LE thought so, they’d deal with. If we are trying to explore what her character/morals are all about… that ain’t the way. IMO
Treece, We know no fact that Misty was harmed by J Miller just that she was to testify. That could mean anything, like she knew things about him or the event. It does not mean she was a victim.jmo
GBinOKC said,
in April 8th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Native Alien:
A great many people agree with you about Cousin Joe, and yet what are the odds that this child vanishes from the face of the earth the very day that a known sex offender from another state was in her home? An offender, I might add, who fled Florida early the next morning.
I believe that what Misty is afraid to tell is that she never awoke to find Haleigh missing. Rather, she came home to find her missing. She left the door unlocked for herself so that she wouldn’t risk being seen coming home through the front door.
According to Misty, twenty-five minutes transpired from the time she discovered that Haleigh was missing. Why wait at all? If she waited twenty-five minutes, who can say that she didn’t wait and hour, or two hours?
The two most credible witnesses in this case are the human remains detection dogs. As soon as they “hit” on the dumpster, I’d have taken the dogs to search the trunk of every car and the bed of every truck of any individual Ron and Misty had ever come in contact with. I believe, and no one will ever convince me otherwise, that Haleigh, at least for a short time, was in that dumpster, then someone thought better of it and moved her.
First of all Cousin Joe is not a known sex offender. That is just something that Misty told people and they repeated it. He has no record in Michigan, Tennessee or Florida for sexual offenses.
Secondly, he did not leave early the next morning. There are pictures on the net of him and Misty putting up Missing posters of Haleigh. Not to mention the fact that the length of his visit was determined by the sister that he rode with from Tennessee. She is also the way that he got back to Tennessee and their return to Tennessee had already been planned.
BAC, sorry too hear that. I hope you get better. Those sinus infections are awful. I have bad sinus allergies and it triggers my sinus infections.
I am not up to speed about the J. Miller situation. I am clueless on this topic.
Can someone direct me to photos of Misty and Joe doing the poster/flyer thing? Thanks!!
The facts that I just told you are enough to have never brought it up. That fact that a judge said it was brutal and he would be tried as an adult is enough!!!! That’s all the FACT you need to know combined with the fact that it is closed by the court to protect the INNOCENT. Besides the fact it is none of your business and has nothing to do with Haleigh. It is your own curiosity to know the gore of a child rape. FLAT ASS SICK!
Treece;
I’m sorry you are so upset. WHy after all of Misty’s apparent lies is it so wrong to question it?
I’ll tell you a little true story. I have a cousin who had a 15 yr old daughter. She had been staying with her grandmother & step-grandfather because they spoiled her immensly. Then one day, out of the blue, she attests that step-grandpa molested her. This man had a military pension and civic service retirement. Once her charges went into the system his income was stopped. For almost a year he was pursued by LE, articles in the local papers proclaiming his guilt, local citizens shunned and harrassed him & his wife. After about a year of this the girl finally came clean. SHe had LIED. SHe admitted she was just mad that they hadn’t let her have her way on a small teenaged issue and decided to get revenge. THis from the horses mouth!!! All lies. The Grandfather still sells veggies along side the road for a living since his income was taken away and never returned. This is a TRUE story. I know for a fact. It DOES happen.
I am appalled that this is even allowed on here!!! What are we going to do use BNN to exploit the sexual abuse of children???
Yes, Looking… it’s a hell of a irritation, I am so sick of being sick!!
I will say a prayer for you. Have you tried putting a hot wash cloth oner your nose and eyes? That usually helps me find some relief.
shockwave,,,,I think this is an excellant idea…People like this,,the whole lot of them didnt start stealing,,robbing their neighbors, blind or other wise selling drugs taking drugs,,whatever, just in hte last year…I would be willing to bet, they have all gotten over on the LE for their behaviour for years….I pity anyone who finds themselves neighbors of any one of these people.
HGMOM that “true story” does not apply here!!! Jmiller was a minor too. I KNOW there are cases that some one yells “abuse” when it is not true.
Doesn’t justify this behavior!!!! It doesn’t matter how many lies Misty has told. It has been ruled in a court of law as BRUTAL – closed – silenced. IT has nothing to do with Haleigh!!! WHAT IF IT WAS YOUR DAUGHTER??? Would you want her rape exposed and discussed on public blog?
Has it ever occured to you she may have tesified against him to get out of trouble herself? She may have turned into a witness for the prosecution to save her own A@@ in that case? We dont know thats why we question and its not about what happened it is only questioned as to her involvement. And it was only a question not anything else. jmo
Okay… lets all breath. There is no way of looking into this and I don’t believe that there should be one either! Honestly, even if she was NOT a minor at the time, I would feel the same way due to the nature of the crime. I will afford her the privacy/dignity, and not speak of this again.
Looking, I will try that, Thanks!!
BAC, I agree with you.
I wont bring it up again but I wonder why everyone gets the impression Misty was the victim when there is no proof that she was.
She was only to testify. I will now drop it .jmo bbl
Ok…..I’m done with it too….My point was not about the age of the accused, it was the age of the accusor.
So have we all calmed down… now!
I know nothing of this rape case, and really dont care to know,,,however, If Misty is talking,,, she is lieing…if we have not learned anything else,,it is that….
Ageed.
I wonder if some ofthe info has to do with Donna. Misty says she is running her mouth.
Why would Misty care unless she told her something?jmo
Has Donna even been to court yet? We know Hope , Misty and Ron have but not Tommy or Donna.jmo
So is J miller in jail? Where at?
OK Misty’s LVA test she talks about Sr comming home by ambulance…I’m going to re-listen to see what else she said about it.
BBL
Misty also said something about DB saying that Misty gave her gas money… maybe the drug money?
I do remember the accident happened on the 6th of Feb. Friday and he was at Shands. And he was driving Timmys car.jmo
Ky Mom said,
in April 8th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
+++++++++++
Jeremy Miller is CONVICTED. He pled guilty and is spending over 8 years in prison for:
“Lewd, Lascivious battery sex w/victim 12-15 years old; F.S. 800.04(4)(a)”. He was CONVICTED in a Court of Law. If he felt he was innocent, he should have went to trial, IMO.
He is now a Registered Sexual Offender.
He is incarcerated at:
Current Facility: MAYO C.I.
And his anticipated release date is:
04/04/2014
FYI:
(His adjudication date was 02/07/2006)
BA – it was just another commenter I think. That is why the thought entered my brain, but what if?
Also, what’s up the evidence found at a bridge? I haven’t heard anything about a bridge.
An interesting thing about Hank Sr’s accident, Hank said the driver is in jail. He also said the vehicle belonged to the driver’s girlfriend, and she was the one without insurance (but she never got into any trouble). FL is a mandatory insurance state, isn’t it?
I have never been able to find any information regarding Hank’s accident in any of the surrounding counties.
Not sure how the info would help us, but I’d still like to have it on hand.
Does anyone know where the accident happened? I’ve looked in media archives and booking logs.
Shockwave said,
in April 8th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
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Okay, I think you’re referring to the bad things question! Thanks
That’s right BA. Sorry – I forgot the question was kinda far back.
Just got done listening to Hank & Misty. Sounds like the pressure is on. I still think Hank is trying to get Misty to talk. I like the comment that Hank said….LE will have this all wrapped up in the next few weeks. I hope that is true. It makes me sick to hear Misty say I didn’t do anything wrong. In my opinion she didn’t do anything right!!!!!
In all honesty, I thought Hank “magic man” Sr. was involved in a single car accident!1
Hank sr has blame EVERYONE ELSE for everything that has happened to those related to him..Every person, his daughter , his son, his wifey, and himself for all the illegal activities of each and everyone of them, he has blamed LE…..In these vids, after they started hitting the air waves, and he KNEW they were being published,,,he has whined and moaned and groan enough for some people to feel sorry for him..He has been provided a car, money and a roof over his head, and he still bitches and moans…..I have no sympathy for any of these people, and I would like to know,,, before Haleigh went missing,,,how many others have been victimized by him and his crew…He is the only person who has referred to his accident as him being hit by a drunk driver….I do NOT believe it with his drug use, and will not believe until I see some legit from LE…He is playing his sympathy card for the masses,,why not it worked before….
Hank sr has blame EVERYONE ELSE for everything that has happened to those related to him..Every person, his daughter , his son, his wifey, and himself for all the illegal activities of each and everyone of them, he has blamed LE…..In these vids, after they started hitting the air waves, and he KNEW they were being published,,,he has whined and moaned and groan enough for some people to feel sorry for him..He has been provided a car, money and a roof over his head, and he still bitches and moans…..I have no sympathy for any of these people, and I would like to know,,, before Haleigh went missing,,,how many others have been victimized by him and his crew…He is the only person who has referred to his accident as him being hit by a drunk driver….I do NOT believe it with his drug use, and will not believe until I see some legit from LE…He is playing his sympathy card for the masses,,why not it worked before….I hope it comes out,,finally the truth of his so-called accident..
Notice how neither one of them think anybody in their family did anything wrong and that they are so misunderstood and mistreated. They make themselves the victim ALWAYS.
J
thanks for the info…
I’m tired of hearing Misty whine about LD test. Every time she fails one she says she was tricked.
She lies as bad as Casey Anthony.
Bdams,,,I dont know for sure,,,but it seemed to me I heard it was a 1 car accident to…wonder why Hank sr wasnt tested for drugs?????? If it does come out to be a 1 car accident and he is blatantly lieing about it being someone elses fault,,,just goes to show,,,if we dont already know,,,what a liar he is….
You’re welcome, Ky Mom! 🙂
NG was suppose to have her show on Misty tonight. But instead is having it on JON and KATE.
who cares about JoN and Kate.
Southernva… That is the way I remember it too, a one car accident. I just was never clear as to whose vehicle he was driving! But, I remember Timmy/Chelsea being up late due to insurance paperwork. But, it can’t be their vehicle!
LVA test section I watched was very interesting…Lots of info covered in a relatively short section. Bear in mind these are Misty’s words. ALso the ways she states things or things she brings up unprompted are odd.
Timmy TC & JO at Ron’s when gun went missing
M knows not Timmy, he’s favorite
SIL with M would have to be Chelsea, would she ask Lindsy to help her search for a gun she thinks TC and/or Joe stole?
Without stopping for hardly a breath, she immediately states over & over “I don’t think Haleigh is dead…I think somebody is holding her, but not dead” Then continues with “Tommy was there that night….uh…I mean there that day” (Fraudian slip?)
Q: There was a van, who’s van?
M: My brother’s van, well, my brother’s wife’s van. (Lindsy’s) Joe was at my other brother’s house in Crescent City. (Timmy’s)
BA, Chelsea said in the interview that the reason they had the van was because Hank was in a wreck with their car. jmo
It’s never been clear to me whose van was moved /scratched!
HGM, On another site someone said way back that Hank had a hospital lien on him. I wonder if this would help? jmo
Tobias… okay, thanks!
Jo was at…well, the van was at my younger brother’s house in C City. (TImmy) So my bro wakes up about 12:30 or 1:00 in the morning and notices JO isn’t on the bed his normally sleeps on (Repeat visitor)….he doesn’t think much about it and goes back to sleep. He figures he’s on the back porch on the phone, he’s on the phone all of the time.
OK…if they were up late doing insurance paperwork, I thought Chelsea said they were up until the time Misty states. If they were up, why does she say the woke up? If they were awake & noticed JO out of pocket, wouldn’t they look to see if he’s outside or notice van gone? WOuldn’ they have heard him leave? If asleep, what time did they stop insurance paperwork?
If Misty knows about JO’s alleged sexual abuse issues, wouldn’t Timmy & CHelsea? If he was out of pocket in the middle of the night, I find it hard to believe that they wouldn’t find him before retiring, unless the JO sex issue is bogus.
The van was registered to Lindsy, but Misty drove it alot to pick up the kids from the bus stop. Chelsea had use of it since Hank wrecked their only car and she also was driving Lisa to Shands on that day to visit Hank.jmo
They have daughters….
Good questions. Thanks HollyG!!
Thats what struck me too. Hank saying Joe is crazy yet he was with those little girls. And evidently Chelsea and Timmy were sound sleepers(lol) too since Joe could leave, start the van, leave and return without their hearing a thing. But didnt Chelsea say she was a light sleeper when she was telling about Misty being a heavy sleeper? jmo
LVA cont:
M: He wakes up the next morning to discover the van is moved, keys are moved, JO in full clothing instead of normal sleep attire (Boxers){paraphrase} big scratch on van, deep gouge, bushes stuck in headlights….nothing unsusual found inside the van that I know of except DEER blood in the back from when my brother killed a deer….um ok so if….I mean, I’m telling ya’ll I don’t know what kind…I mean all I know is deer blood. I seen the deer. The FBI took it for about a month or 2 months (1 month exactly)
Then goes on to talk about the red truck sale, Sr gave TC $500 NOT to sell it, but he did.
JO doesn’t know his way around here. TC does, he smokes crack. Crackheads know all the hiding spots so they can hide & smoke crack. So if TC had anything to do with it, JO did too.
HollyG… I never liked the fact that they felt it was okay for Joe to sleep in his boxers… that just ain’t fitting!!
OH NO NOT THE BOXERS AGAIN. WERE THEY CLEAN LOL
BA: YW 😉
Tobias: True, Misty’s statements & othr’s people’s statements don’t seem to line up, do they?
Anyone remember what time Chelsea stated they went to bed that night? It’s in an interview, I know. I do remember CHelsea also stating she was a light sleeper, PG issues (teeny tiny bladder?), Up late, call came in at 3:30, stayed in bed until 6:00. Thought Haleigh was just hiding and would be found right away. (With a know sex offender in her house?)
I agree…especially if they suspected anything like sex abuse.
Who carrys a dead deer inside a van? Hunters around here strap them on top of or in a truck bed. Deer blood all over the carpet inside why would you do that?jmo
LVA continues:
Q: Did anybody threaten you about Haleigh?
M: No, never. Nobody’s ever threatened me or hurt me about Haleigh. (Long speech)
See JO, ….I went to the sherriff’s office the next day (Feb 10) to talk to them.
(So people WERE going to PUtnam sheriff’s office to interview & speak with officers THERE rather then the “crime scene” at 202 Green lane. It COULD be possible that CS & MG went there prior to seeing Ron & 202 thus making her arrival at 202 “late” to some.)
….My mom picked me up & JO was with her….
JO was scared to come down there & ge his stuff. (202 Green lane or 116 Tyler?) (What stuff? I thought he was staying at C City?)
He immediately wanted to leave the state. He called and got a ride & left. He didn’t want to go BACK DOWN THERE. (Bold By Me) The cops told me they didn’t want me to go back down there because they didn’t want me to….uuhhh…I don’t really know why & whoever told me that was a big lie. I could have gone down there anytime I wanted to….Dad came home by ambulance from Shands (Feb 10th) and he didn’t even want to go down there. (TC’s to see Sr? Why afraid to go to TC’s? Is this there a seperate there from the first there? Sounds like it might be since she was first talking about 202 as there, then when she talked about dad coming home 116 was the second there, as in either, but JMO)…
See,,,that’s what I told the cops…why is he scared to go down there if he didn’t have anything to do with it? Why is he scared?…I didn’t go down there cause they told me not to.
Q: THreats or hurt you over Haleigh?
No, nobody’s threatened me over Haleigh (What about ROn on 911 call?) Like I said to my….somebody come into the house and put a gun in my mouth….man, I’d be freakin out….uhn uhn….
The Real Armando said,in April 8th, 2010 at 10:20 am ……hello cruel world!
“If I have seen farther than others, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants.”
R.I.P Haleigh (accepting terms)
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Can you see things that other people have overlooked / or cannot see yet because you are willing to think out side the box and take a chance-
it is risky, is it not, standing on the shoulders of giants? and a great view too…
Tobias,
SOunds fishy to me too. ANy chance they shot a deer to cover up other blood that night? Too much of a stretch maybe? I wonder if the deer was in season at the time? I am wondering exactly when it was shot. Often times people will take pic os their kills, did TC? Any proof of this alleged deer other than Misty’s claims? I wonder what TC said about it all.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4972506
Link to LVA test
Ithink Armondo is refering to knowing how addicts are and has a keen sense of what has happened from his experience with drug addicts.
But thats just how I read his analogy.jmo
Chelsea Croslin Speaks Out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc61AO1APc4&feature=related
And just where was Hank, Sr. the night Haleigh vanished? In a Gainesville, Florida hospital, with his wife, Lisa, by his side, after suffering severe bac and leg injuries from a hit and run by a driver with no insurance, said Lindsay. “He’s been in tremendous pain ever since and has been taking medication for that,” said Lindsay.”
“How could he possibly get to the crime scene and hop back in bed like that?” scoffed Chelsea Croslin, “unless he was some magic man.”
http://www.zimbio.com/Haleigh+Cummings/articles/PKKrQE06tcH/Cops+Tell+Croslin+Family+Not+Gong+Away
Yet the statement was made by Newton about Mathematics (CALC) . tO GET WHERE HE WAS HE STOOD ON OTHERS KNOWLEDGE FIRST THEN SAW FARTHER. JMO
I know who said it.
I am sure that The real Armondo can answer when he gets the chance. I do see your point of view and appreciate your input into his meaning of that paticular phrase.
new tapes
Here’s one discrepancy …
(CHelsea speaking)
“We all started thinking about what could have happened that night…I realized the van was in a different spot.”
Chelsea Croslin said the night Haleigh disappeared, a family member was staying with them. She [Chelsea] says around 4 a.m., when Misty called them to tell them Haleigh was missing, they went outside to the van to drive to Haleigh’s home. Chelsea said she immediately noticed the van was not in the same spot she left it.
“I know I don’t park like that, and I was the last to drive the van.”
After a few hours, another sign the van was tampered with appeared.
Themis posted @ 3:47 pm Talks about 3 different accounts given by Chelsea or reporter…who’s being inaccurate?
SO if they were up until 4 am, how could JO have left & come back without either of them knowing?
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=365405&page=27
Slight distinction:
THe AH article with Chelsea’s statements said AND
“We were up late doing insurance paperwok, went to bed AND got a call from MIsty at $:00 AM”
Not sure what difference it makes, but NG stated on her show that JO was a RSO. I believe that AH brought it up.
treece said,in April 8th, 2010 at 12:32 pm HGmom, that is alot of if’s and IF that happens it will be a judge who makes that decision. In the mean time it has NOT a damn thing to do with Haleigh. The abuse you tell about should make you even more compassionate to someone else.
This is freaking wrong. We have been through this same crap on BNN many times. Some poster have left over it and I am ready to be next. This is flat cruel and perverted!!!!
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I totally agree.
Tobias also believes it is Misty’s fault she only got a grade 6 education….Tobias thinks she made that choice and it’s her fault.
Me, was that even necessary?
treece said,
in April 8th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
The facts that I just told you are enough to have never brought it up. That fact that a judge said it was brutal and he would be tried as an adult is enough!!!! That’s all the FACT you need to know combined with the fact that it is closed by the court to protect the INNOCENT. Besides the fact it is none of your business and has nothing to do with Haleigh. It is your own curiosity to know the gore of a child rape. FLAT ASS SICK!
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Amen
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in April 8th, 2010 at 5:23 pm Me, was that even necessary?
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Was what necessary?
cent,
Are we only allowed to post “necessary” comments? I don’t believe all your comments are “necessary” either.
I never said you had to post necessary comments only! I asked if it was necessary for you to do your 5:03… knowing that, that would ignite the flame once again. Especially when so many people had been upset over the entire subject matter. Then you throw in the education remark, I guess as a after thought? Whatever, me… you do what you like!
My comments may not be “necessary” to you and that is your opinion, I don’t really care, I’m not here for you.
cent,
And I’m not here for you. Nor do I try to tell you what to post and/or what is necessary. Was your post asking if my post was necessary, necessary? Or was it done to ignite something?
It wasn’t me who said it was Misty’s fault for only having a grade 6 education. It was Tobias.
I was not trying to ignite anything! If I had been doing that than I wouldn’t have tried to make peace when it was going on. You can see it how you like, and I will do the same. There is no need to keep going with this, not a need at all. Wish you the best, me! Cent
Hi everyone,
I would like to ask a favor from all of you…
I have seen in here about the topic of Misty and JMiller. I have to ask that you drop this subject mostly out of respect for other women that have been brutally raped. No matter what happened to Misty back when she was like only 13, it surely has nothing to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. It is however disturbing to some of us to see a battle going on over this subject.
So once again out of respect for the others please drop this topic in here. I will delete any more comments on that particular topic if I see any.
I am not saying that you aren’t entitled to your opinion . It is just a sensitive topic about an underage kid, besides the judge sealed the court records on the case, so I don’t think it needs to be discussed in public.
Please go this for me?
God bless you all and a special prayer to find Haleigh soon. She needs to be back home, although I personally don’t think either side of the family are good for her, but that is not my decision to make. I just want to know that she is OK.
Thank you all,
Jan Barrett
Jan I appreciate the hard work you both do. I read here all the time. I’ve only posted on it a couple of times as I don’t feel like getting told that I’m stupid & ignorant in my opinions of this case,like so many others on here have. There are 4-5 people who doesn’t think others should have opinions.I’m not refering to the last fight on here,just in general.Again TY Jan,Simon, & T.J. Hope all of you are feeling better.
Thank you Jan.
This is a crying shame that this family has been put on tv,an this mess comming out.Its PCSO crap.Its a small town an every body knows every one.An covers for those they know.These people can even get jobs because of this.Hank loves his G children ,an they cant keep them away by law.only thing is they know this bunch is broke,an they are running over them big time.
Misty doesnt know what happened.An she is catching hell to be that age,why if that county saw a young girl in trouble,why didnt they help her.It could be Haliegh at that age ,an they would do the same thing.I think they botched this case,an are trying to get the public behind them in this case.yes they have done some things wrong,committed some alledged crimes.But this is just awful.Im disgusted with PCSO DECTECTIVES.THEY HAVENT SEARCHED ALL AVANUES,IM SITTING HERE AN SEE SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR BY MANY THERE,AN YET THEY ARE SLAMING THIS FAMILY ONLY.ITS BULL,AN I KNOW IT. Enough all READY!!! Hank Lisa,an Misty i would take them in an help them. sHOW ME EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS THIS FAMILY,mISTY HARMED hALIEGH,They would have kept the van untill court if Hlaieghs blood was in it.But hey they turned it loose with a scratch,wood twigs in the headlight,an even was told it had been moved that nigght.Hank was in the hospital my Lord,the man was hit by a drunk driver with a 3000 pound car,an some one says he was there,an someone heard the bull Casey lied about molestation,an dang if someones not trying to say Hanks has did that.Come on!!
You see my family went through this same crap.When my sisters 2 yr old grandbaby was beat to death.Oh they smeared us to.we lost jobs .But they wouldnt listen.In the end the one we thought was the killer,was.He got LWOP,after we as a family went through hell.I dont trust some Law imforcment as far as i can throw them.They just want a case solved,closed,an dont care when pressures on them from higher ups to solve a case. Some find evidence an go from there.Over a yr later they have nothing but smearing to get many to stand with them against these people.They are far from perfect,but i dont believ they are child murderers.An NG can kiss my—lol How is all this helping Haliegh!!!
LOL, 7 is the lucky number!!!!!!
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