We will be running our regular look back at the events of the past seven days in both the Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony cases.
Our panel this week will be Simon and Jan Barrett, News and Programming Director for WSKY 97.3 TJ Hart, and crime writer Denny Griffin.
Law Enforcement have once again closed down their flow of information, this is something that seems to happen from time to time. Often in the past it has signaled that something is about to happen.
I had hoped to be able to bring some news to the table this week, however I am waiting on some clearance to move forward with it. I have a couple of documents just burning a hole in my hard drive!
Oh, and here is a little piece of trivia for you concerning William Cobra Staubs. Did you know that his attorney Donald Holmes and the Assistant State Attorney Joeseph Boatwright (prosecutor) used to work together? Rumor on the street is that they are friends! Boy that makes for an interesting situation. Do I hear ‘Kangaroo Court’ in the air?
More tapes were released late Thursday, unfortunately we have yet to get our hands on them. But hopefully we will have copies on Monday. We just need to find a willing soul to pick them up in St Augustine and upload the contents to us.
We have seen some snippets care of one of the local TV stations and I doubt that they contain any BOMBSHELLS, it appears that even the Croslin’s and Cummings have finally figured out that their visits and phone calls are being recorded.
I did receive an interesting email a few minutes ago. This photo was taken at the Flea Market in St. Augustine this morning.
It does seem that people are still concerned about the well being of Haleigh Cummings.
To tune in to the program just point your browser at www.blogtalkradio.com a few minutes before 3pm central on Sunday Mar/7 and you will see the link to the program.
Simon Barrett
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Thanks Simon. Looking forward to the show.
Cobra… zap… zap… zap!
I’ll be tuning in tomorrow whether there’s something new, or not.
Is there any way I can change my log-in name from just Xfiles to Xfiles4U2?
I cant believe Cobra is still having to fight this out in court. I wonder what was ever done with that guy Snodgrass, does anyone know if he got put in jail yet? jmo
Is Florida gonna wait till Snodgrass kills someone like the guy who killed Chelsea King did???? Put him away already…. jmo
Poor Misty she lost 7 pounds. Really? Who cares or was that a plea for money for the canteen? She better learn to like the food its a long time till she is gonna get out. Homeless people have it much worse and go hungry daily, sleep in the elements and cant shower. Someone slap her. jmo
Yes sir!!!! ……when I asked th old lady if I can take tht pic, she said “anything for Haleigh”””……go Haleigh!!!!
…..at th end of th day, when we live this world….only 1 thing will have mattered….tht you Loved!
Tune in tomorrow!
Could she have needed the money for her habit? I have heard they can get it there. Didn’t the Harrell guy have 90 something diet pills on him after he was transferred from Miss., under heavy guard?
tobias said,
in March 6th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Is Florida gonna wait till Snodgrass kills someone like the guy who killed Chelsea King did???? Put him away already…. jmo
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I think cobras little kidnapping of Snodgrass put his trial on hold till cobra’s mess was sorted out. He hasn’t been convicted of anything yet. Hell look at long Casey has been in jail and she still hasn’t gone to trial. Sometimes the wheels of justice turn slow which is ok by me as long as the wheels of justice turn.
there is activity as far as his case is going
2010-01-11 169 NOTICE OF TAKING TELEPHONIC DEPOSITION
2010-01-11 170 MOTION FOR ISSUANCE OF SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM
2010-01-11 170 FOR DEPOSITION (FAX)
2010-01-13 171 MOTION FOR ISSUANCE OF SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR
2010-01-13 171 DEPOSITION
2010-01-14 172 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
2010-01-14 172 BARBIE HUDSON VALLETTO (FAX COPY)
2010-01-15 173 ORDER ON DEFTS MOTION FOR ISSUANCE OF SUBPOENA DUCES
2010-01-15 173 TECUM FOR DEPOSITION GRANTED
2010-01-15 174 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
2010-01-15 174 BARBIE HUDSON VALLETTO
2010-01-26 175 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
2010-01-26 175 RICHARD ARENS, DEPT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES
2010-01-26 175 02/03/10
2010-01-26 176 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED:
2010-01-26 176 RICHARD ARENS
2010-01-26 177 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
2010-01-28 178 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
2010-01-28 178 RICHARD ARENS
2010-02-02 179 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION -TELEPHONIC-FAX
2010-02-02 180 NOTICE OF TAKING TELEPHONIC DEPOSITION
2010-02-10 181 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
2010-02-11 182 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
2010-02-11 182 LILLIAN VAN HOUTEN 02/16/2010
2010-02-17 183 STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED:
2010-02-17 183 AIMEE ALLGIER
2010-02-18 184 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED:
2010-02-18 184 AIMEE ALLGIER
2010-02-18 185 DEFENDANT’S WITNESS LIST
2010-02-19 186 DEFENSE WITNESS LIST
2010-02-22 187 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED:
2010-02-22 187 RICHARD ARENS
2010-02-22 188 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AND APPOINT REGIONAL CONFLICT
2010-02-22 188 COUNSEL
2010-01-11 169 NOTICE OF TAKING TELEPHONIC DEPOSITION
2010-01-11 170 MOTION FOR ISSUANCE OF SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM
2010-01-11 170 FOR DEPOSITION (FAX)
2010-01-13 171 MOTION FOR ISSUANCE OF SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR
2010-01-13 171 DEPOSITION
2010-01-14 172 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
2010-01-14 172 BARBIE HUDSON VALLETTO (FAX COPY)
2010-01-15 173 ORDER ON DEFTS MOTION FOR ISSUANCE OF SUBPOENA DUCES
2010-01-15 173 TECUM FOR DEPOSITION GRANTED
2010-01-15 174 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
2010-01-15 174 BARBIE HUDSON VALLETTO
2010-01-26 175 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
2010-01-26 175 RICHARD ARENS, DEPT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES
2010-01-26 175 02/03/10
2010-01-26 176 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED:
2010-01-26 176 RICHARD ARENS
2010-01-26 177 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
2010-01-28 178 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
2010-01-28 178 RICHARD ARENS
2010-02-02 179 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION -TELEPHONIC-FAX
2010-02-02 180 NOTICE OF TAKING TELEPHONIC DEPOSITION
2010-02-10 181 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
2010-02-11 182 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
2010-02-11 182 LILLIAN VAN HOUTEN 02/16/2010
2010-02-17 183 STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED:
2010-02-17 183 AIMEE ALLGIER
2010-02-18 184 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED:
2010-02-18 184 AIMEE ALLGIER
2010-02-18 185 DEFENDANT’S WITNESS LIST
2010-02-19 186 DEFENSE WITNESS LIST
2010-02-22 187 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED:
2010-02-22 187 RICHARD ARENS
2010-02-22 188 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AND APPOINT REGIONAL CONFLICT
2010-02-22 188 COUNSEL
Is that picture the back of a car window?
In any event, it is always great to see HaLeigh’s smiling face and awareness in the public that she is still out there and needs to be brought home.
Looking forward to the show tomorrow, as always.
J
yeah.., it was there were actually 2 with tht sticker on the back winshield.
It felt great….to see it.
My…..prayers….4….Haleigh!
the reason there is no new information is because there is no new information. The cops setup,sting yielded them ‘nothing’. A few lousy pills is not “trafficing”. Hopefully LE will blunder into the truth someday cause that is what it will take..dumb luck.
me,
You continue to spread false information that Crystal was convicted of giving a false report to police.
I have copied the information from the Baker County Clerk of Court Site. Nolle Prosequi means that the CASE WAS NOT PURSUED.
You are wrong. Crystal has NEVER been convicted of lying to anyone.
[DEFENDANT=SHEFFIELD, CRYSTAL D ][JUDGE=WILLIAMS, JOSEPH M]
LAST DOCKET DATE=08/07/2008
07/02/2007 MISDEMEANOR CASE CLOSED
CHARGE SEQ# STATUTE STATUTE
TEXT DATE PHASE 1 83705
FALSE REPORT TO LAW AUTHORITY 08/07/2008 Prosecutor: Nolle Prosequi
If LE is so sure it was MC, and they have her in jail, why don’t that share more information?
looking for Justice said,in March 6th, 2010 at 9:29 pm Bac, all I know is that our laws here in Fl. state if a baby is born with drugs in its system DCF usually steps in and you are not allowed to take the baby home with you. I really do not know too much about Chloe having drugs in her system at birth only what I have read here. If Crystal got to take Chloe home with her when she left the hospital, then there could of not been much to it.
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Actually, KP told the Bar Association about it…and, it’s never been denied by Crystal & co. So sad. Mothers who use while pregnant should not be allowed to bring their babies home until they prove they are clean for a period of time. Instead, she got to bring her home, then could have killed her by driving with her whilst she was under the influence of drugs and crashing. Poor Chloe. Sure hope Crystal cleans up her act, but I seriously doubt she will. Anyone who uses while pregnant is a very serious addict and needs serious help.
I respect all of your opinions, but all of this talk about whether or not Crystal has done some drugs won’t bring Haleigh home.
me,
There you go again. KP mentions it in the Bar Complaint, but conveniently doesn’t explain why DCF took no action. After follow up, they decided that no action was needed and no case was opened. Sorry to disappoint you.
It’s time that the truth comes out.
skeptic, since you are all for the truth why don’t you state that Crystal admitted to law enforcement that she lied about her car being stolen? Maybe you should get the actual police report.
It has nothing to do with HaLeigh but I did want the truth to be stated accurately.
Armando said,
in March 6th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Thanks for the info, Armando!
Sure is nice to see HaLeigh’s info on the backs of cars, signs, and anywhere! The more awareness the better, IMO. It’s just way past time to bring “our” girl home.
Too many games, too many rumors, too many sideshows, too much nonsense. Just want HaLeigh to come home! I never thought last February when I first saw her beautiful smile that a year later I’d still be praying for the day she’d be found.
Praying for HaLeigh and those that love her!
I am looking forward to the show. Give us a hint about those little documents that are burning a hole in your hardrive.
The story behind that false information thing is that Crystal lent her car to a friend. The friend took off with the car, so she reported it as stolen. You can’t really report a car as stolen if you lent it out. She got in trouble for that, but she admitted the truth.
Her car was stolen, it was just stolen by a friend. Crystal admitted that a friend took it and the whole thing was dropped. Wow, big deal.
truthbetold, Just so ya’ know …for future reference, friends don’t steal your car. Also, by making a report of car theft knowing no theft actually occured, the person claiming the theft is taking time away from true victims of crime. I won’t pretend to know how much time an officer must use in taking the victims (crystal) statement,but think about it…this is time taken away from…oh say a missing persons report, a car accident, you get my point? crystal was wrong in doing what she did. Is it serious? hell yes…is it worth putting someone in jail over? depends. big deal? If someone needs that officers assistance while he or she is busy handling a false report…YOU damn betcha!!!
I have a question. Who’s interests does it serve for us to fight about the faults of the parents? The only answer I’ve come up with so far is- the person who is responsible for whatever happened to Haleigh.
Because as long as we are focused on R vs C issues we are NOT thinking about what could have happened to Haleigh.
Anyone who is already convinced it happened in a certain way is lucky (IMO). If you believe M is innocent for example (really doesn’t remember or know anything) then maybe it would be helpful to think about how it could have happened. Same with those who are convinced R is responsible – that he hurt Haleigh. Or any theory.
Unfortunately, thanks to LE, we don’t have many facts but we can still theorize with what little we do know. As I’ve mentioned, I have about 7 theories – each with someone different being responsible. So I’m willing to join in discussions of lots of different theories.
I think where we run into trouble is insisting that “my” way is the “only” way for whatever reason. If you feel that way, that’s okay but for the rest of us, IMO, we don’t have enough info to decide that.
If anyone wanted to we could choose a theory every day or every few days and discuss it and figure out why it may or may not have happened that way and what info we’d need to “prove” it or disprove it.
To me that would be more interesting and maybe even more fruitful than R vs C fights. But the only way it will work is for people to ALLOW both parents and everyone else to be “the suspect” during these discussions (without feeling the person has to be defended). It’s just for the purposes of discussion. Trying to bring some facts and thoughts to each theory and recognize rumors – even include and exclude some – to see where it gets us.
Anyone interested? We could pick a theory and start tomorrow if you like. Just a thought.
m2c, great idea…I’m just not sure some posters can hold back and keep a civil tongue. I’m on board if everyone can agree to play fair, and who knows, maybe we can come up with the truth about what actually occured that night.
m2c I believe that is a good start in the right direction. Figure out the most plausible motive and go from there. Excellent Idea!!
I also am interested inthe documents putting a whole him Simon hard drive. Can’t wait!!
Hey Guys!! miss talking to all of you…I’ll be listening today. I was trying to catch up by reading your posts. Good info as always.
truthbetold,
I have no idea where you got your info from. What I do know is that that charge was before the Court for a long time before it was marked “nolle prosequoi”, and it appears she received probation for it, which she was later before the Court for breaching. We also know they tried to pin ownership of the crack and crack pipes on a “friend”. So, we know Crystal is willing and able to lie to police.
IMO, Crystal and that side of the family had the strongest motive to make Haleigh disappear. I saw last night an article dated march 16th (just 5 weeks after haleigh went missing) and HaleighBug was already up and running with a phone number for donations. At least the As waited 6-8 months or more to start their foundation. So, imo, this puts the Sheffields and Griffis even lower than the As, and more than capable of making her disappear.
m2c BRILLIANT PLAN! Shall we start from the beginning? I have been asking for this else where, as well and hope that BNN can really be the cut above in setting the example.
Great idea, M2C.
And the goal is to find HaLeigh right?
Simon,an Jan-Im looking forward to your show.
I think Putnum county was exposed for there long time illicet behaviors.A it doesnt seem to have been cleaned up in yrs.An Cobra,i think he ment well.But lol he needs to clean his speach up-when dealing with the public.He just got caught up in that craziness there At HB foundation
Haliegh being abducted brought everything to the light.I have been praying for this little girl,sence this was reported.I am thinking because Haliegh wasnt found in all this time.That she was abducted,an taken across county,or state line,an dumped.A hunter may run across her precious little bones one day.
Misty is a snitch she has told on everyone sence shes been in jail.I believe if it was something she truly knew had happened she would have spued it by now
I find it a shame when a countys full of drugs. Why had a drug task force not cleaned that area up way before now? Were they understaffed,or just looking the other way?
It to me would have been way better to place Ronald,Crystal,an Misty& Tommy into a mandatory free drug rehab.At the very start of this case.Instead of doing a shifty drug sting with UC.If they were big time yes-but these are weekend bingers-Tommy a heavier user-he stole to support his habit- What you saw on the video,is personalities who have went through a yr of Hurt from Haliegh being taken-an from the hurts that gossip an having your face displayed everwhere-they have rebelled.An Misty has been used by many she blows her self up-to hide the many hurts in life–Been there i know!! UC, Pills probably are the most pills they ever have been involved in,or offered to hold.They prob,sold to get a few pills off the top for their use–MistY may have made when paying all the suppliers 3 pill,an 20 bucks off the top-All used her.Would it not be better to help them,than set them up for a fall.Was the people Misty went to their home-with kelly an picked drugs up from somone to sell-were they arrested,as a supplier?
I also think when Haliegh went missing.The reason Misty brought Tommy,an Joe up.Is because Halieghs a girl child-an Misty knew she had been molested before by both of these men.So she actualy thinks in her mind thats why Haliegh was abducted. Think about it!!!
I looked at the layout of the inside of the Trailor.–
When u come into the back door–a little hall–you pass laundry area on left-
then look directly cattie cornered from dryer is the light that was on,its on the right wall before stepping into the open kitchen an dinning area
,Make a swift right–then another swift right an your in the master bedroom.
When i saw this i knew someone could easly slip in ease in the room–Ease Haliegh up-children shift,but many dont wake when pick up.
By backing out he could turn the corner really quick an slip out the little hall–out the back door– into the wooded dark back yard,an be gone into the night.Prime place for a SO–or pedifile or who ever,took Haliegh. And it could have been a stranger who watched Ronalds work hrs.Mistys sleep patterns-an had their eye on that GIRL child a long time-getting the right time striking.Dont rule stranger out-Haliegh sure has been missing without a trace.Mark Klass is living proff –strangers can slip in leaving no forced entry-or sign they were there.His child was taken only ten feet from him/or his wife/-no drugs involved.It maybe just a coencidence that it happened after Mistys party weekend.
Has anyone thought with all the exposure of cloroform- From Caylee/Casey coverage–the way its home made.That someone could have used this on Misty making her foggy-as to seeing in a dream like state someone there–or just knocked her out!!!
I pray for Halieghs return.Hope shes alive an well–but its been a long time.Praying for everyone involved,all the families an mostly for butterbean,an all the little ones in that county.Remember if you were accused,an may not be guilty.you would be hurt at all the rumors,an gossip-an im sure i would tell all the NGs of the world to kiss my butt too–I like old Nancy/On some shows -just not her rude behavior-she needs some (addiral)or(ritlin)-Misty,or Ron, has no one to trust–not even LE- all have betrayed Them(Misty mostly).Im sure she loved Haliegh,an all children,she acts as she does-because of not knowing better.(Teresa Neves) Im sorry about the eviction on a blog-you didnt deserve that being out.I believe you of all have grieved deeply,an love your grandchildren-An girl i know how moneys short-an many may not want you renting from them.Because of news cameras,an Blame about your Haliegh going missing.Decent people help someone when something happens like this.Good luck.I hope you found a nice new place.
Jeffery Domner passed a LDT–has anyone ever thought why they arnt used in a court of law–but just released to the public??-They arnt fool proff-they work off of stresses–I would say a child going missing on my watch-an stresses from all thats followed after–would be enought to make a stress chart-or LDT TO BLOW UP!! Misty im sure you knew that it was a set up that day test were run.I had a 2 yr old family member murdered,news reports ,small town paper,gossip was awful,it happened 10 yr agog Feb. 3rd.We as a family suffered much.Had a loved one drown sorrow in pills an drinking-we put them in rehab.They had never messed with any pills before.The grandmother of the baby even had a news paper report she was the murderer-They said it was a missprint–but it was already read by many-The paper retracted the story-but the damage was done-She was sitting in my home in Myrtle Beach 53 miles from the murder.Had been with me working all day-we had proof,had just got off of a legal job..-my sister got a small tatoo-of an angel,with the childs name on it.Many do this now days. In Memorys!! after all the gossips .Untrue reports.My niece was cleared.An the true murderer was caught,an convicted-3 trials latter.So i understand some of these things going on.An dont believe everything i hear-show me the evidence.If a videos going to be released-LE release it in its intirity.Dont pick the parts you want used to distroy someone.An lower that God awful bond,it should be illegal -when its a first time offender.Murderers dont get the kind of bond.Misty,an Ronalds under.Shame,you should have arrested Misty for Neg. an interrigateded her.Truth be told theres nothing to hold her on.That why this uc deal was set up.An we all know it.Praying for truth!!
Thanks for letting me share my thoughts,an OP.It a long post i know!! Trying o squeeze every thing in one post— Thanks again
Yours Truly Jan
Great post Jan. And I agree.
Wisdom and no sides taken. Now that is what is called for at this point. Thank you JAN
Me2-I think you bring up a very good idea.When you spoke of going over each person as a suspect.an no one getting angry over it.All of you together,an no divided.May get to the truth-by putting the pieces together.
I love stooping an reading all of your comments,an thoughts.
Praying for the precious blonde haired little Haliegh.She has surly stole our hearts.An no matter who did this.I hope they are found out an proved guilty.AN GET THE HIGEST PUNISHMENT-DP
Hi Texasmommy39,thank you for responding.I do want to stay an Chat. But my daughters hawking me for the puter right now.So ill come back in a few.
Me2 you have a very good idea.It may work.It will be good to go over each person,an put the pieces together.That what investigators do.
Praying for the Beautiful Blonde haired Haliegh.That the truth is found out.Haliegh has stole our hearts.
Be Back soon
Jan
Great idea Mc2. I think that would be so productive. How do you want to do this? How about Monday (3/8), Tommy is guilty. We should look at tapes, articles, interviews all with the perspective that Tommy is guilty. We can take a different person each day. I think we will learn a lot that way.
Also, great post Jan.
We can start tomorrow or after whenever you all are ready. If people interrupt with insults about R, C, M, T whoever we can just ignore and keep pressing on with our “theory” of the day (or week or whatever).
I’m looking forward to it!
I agree! Why don’t we start with Misty. She is the last one to of seen HaLeigh that night.
The more I think on it, would it not be a better idea and more productive if we remove the players all together and just look at the 911 call and police reporte and the circumstances that day and the events that followed to reveale an unbiased over all picture. Just a thought.
Fact is people lie the evidence doesn’t.
IMO we have plenty of evidence to sort thru. Even the rumors will shed some light in my opiion.
Timing is everything IMO.
Texasmommy39 – I’m not sure how that would work to help reveal the “who did it” and/or “what do we still need to know/look for” to help determine that. But if you can help me understand your approach I’m certainly game.
Hi m2c,
I am just trying to head off the side taking and focus on what little facts we know.
Texasmom, whether the timeline or people are on the agenda, rumours could be included, perhaps rated based on known/unknown credibility. All rumours could be symbolized as smoke, more credible ones could be a blue, or yellow flame.
Any idea of how we can un-biasedly determine credibility of a rumour?
If we state a players name with a noticed behavior it seems to enrage some,and it ends up distracting the process, instead of allowing all to use common sense to judge that particular behavior as the norm or odd or understandable.
As far as the players we need to determine a motive,the abiity and the oppertunity to move them in and out of different theories that is based on the facts that we DO know, to narrow it down IMO.
Texasmommy, facts aren’t arguable, but the rumours are. We could look at rumours too, but agree to not react emotionally in defense of anyone, but to instead present reasons to gauge a rumour as probable, higly probable, or not.
Rumours are the smoke, and some may erupt into fire as we consider them; not a verbal fire between people here, but a ‘discovery’ one.
Choice between covering a timeline, or people, first?
Either way is OK with me; not even sure I can participate much, but whichhever way you all should decide on for tomorrow, the other could follow, if Haleigh isn’t back before the first discussion is finished.
Jan – I agree. At times I think MC would have talked by now if she knew anything. Then I think back to Casey Anthony, and I wonder how she has not spoke of the truth. Then I am confused again.
TJ commented again about someone saying the two cases are maybe alot alike. I wonder now if Misty drugged those kids and Haleigh just never woke up. I remember JBs theory and how it worked so well. jmo
Well if she doesnt talk soon I hope they throw the book at her on the drug charges. jmo
I cant wait to hear those audio tapes cleaned up and the ones we arent going to hear I wonder what is so damning on those? jmo
With each suspect, what about starting with what each suspect said was their own alibi?
Hey Guys,I am baaaaack! Gotta catch up though,spent last night watching movies with my little man,just took him home so here i be!
Casey Anthony had much evidence released to lead us to the point.That she would be the only person who had a desire for the child being out of her life.Her reason would be she wanted HER FREEDOM!!
I dont always get by.But maybe you could start with some outside players other than Ronald Misty,an Crystal.An maybe peace will be here to discuss them.Then lead into the key players.Truth is, not much has been released about what was found inside the home or around it.It really is a site your all on, all the time.I hope you can come to an agreement,on who your going to investigate.
An never rule out an outsider(Stranger) It could just be a that Mistys weekend party had nothing to do with this.Or drugs.
tobias said,in March 6th, 2010 at 3:58 pm Poor Misty she
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Have to agree there!
Tobias,btw Misty eats better than N/g…come on girl! LoL
m2c: How about you being the moderater? Here’s one vote for you!!
Texasmommy39 said,in March 7th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
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Good Point!
I take it i am talking to myself,lol i’ll bbvs
Sorry I jut got back
just
Ronfan-thats a good idea-the alibis,of each person.
Amber Dubois’s remains have been found.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/mar/07/bn07amberpresser/
Ronfan, the thing about the alibis is we only have a few alibies to base our theories on. I for one feel that is not going to get us any where fast. LOL
We need to start some where…..?
How about the the trailer.
No forced entry and the use of the back door.
Kitchen light and the bricked screened door.
HaLeigh liked to sleep in her underware and the fact that her pink HM shirt was found inside the trailer.
The scent trail and the pond.
All need to be reviwed with an open mind to reach a logical conclusion together.
No forced entry
1.Who was in the home that day?
Ron
Misty
HaLeigh
Jr.
Tommy
TC’s child 1(privacy)
TC’s child 2(privacy)
Tc’s child 3(privacy)
A/C man.
2.Who would of had access to unlock the back door after Ron claims he locked it before going to work.
A/C man
Tommy– I want to ask why would Tommy have to sneak in, could he have not taken the opportunity at any time to steal when ever he popped in for a visit and not have to break in?
3.Who would the A/c guy be helping if not himself?
I do wonder if tommy gave her a rufie and waited till she went to sleep having planned it and before he left that night he could have taken her door key and just left it when he came back in that night to get Haleigh?
Texasmommy, absolutely right, we need to start with the facts at the “scene of the crime.”
But, I do think that w/our discussion of each suspect, if they have provided an alibi of where they were, that should be included.
Hey, how about this: for each of the suspect/characters involved: If there is no alibi, (for whatever reason) we should include any knowledge of what they were doing that day,their events that day, even what other people said/or claim that someone was doing. ie. (she was w/me that day…etc..)
Thanks Vaq… very sad!!!
did we ever learn who the a/c guy was? and has he been cleared w/o a doubt?
OK I am jumping the gun without everyone. I will be waiting for the consensus to name a staring point.
Listening to radio show now. hmmm ….Tommy,Tommy, Tommy. He’s sure being mentioned alot by everyone.
Oh BTW: I solemnly promise on my good word, to “behave” and act in an unbiased manner, when we discuss Ronald..
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(but I do promise)
life is a movie, let love play its role.
LOL MY problem is I like everybody and nobody so I can absolutly bias.
I can absolutly be unbias
A Few thins factual!
February 9, 2009 Haleigh goes missing:
Story 1
8:00pm Kids were put to bed per Misty Croslin girlfriend & babysitter.
10:00pm Misty goes to bed per Misty Croslin girlfriend & babysitter
Story 2:
8:00pm Jr put to bed
10:00 Misty and Haleigh go to bed
February 10, 2009:
3:00am Misty wakes and finds out Haleigh’s gone.
3:00 – 3:25am Misty calls Ron on his cell—he says call 911.
3:25ish Misty meets Ron at front door. Has not called police.
3:27am called 911
3:49am Marie Sheffield, Haleigh’s maternal grandmother received call from Ron.
3:50ish Marie calls her daughter, Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Sheffield who lives in Glen St. Mary Florida.
5:00ish Marie calls Crystal’s father who lives in Satsuma or close—he drives over to Cummings house, call’s his ex-wife back and verifies that Haleigh is missing, that police and search dogs are at the scene. Marie and Crystal head for Satsuma.
Armando, Do you know what this movies plot is all about? I have not seen love show his/her face in this movie yet.
One important thing that bothers me is why Tommy hid the fact he’d been there for so long?
IMO Love has nothing to do with this case for the most part!
Cathy I do believe Crystal waited till Chad got home at or around 5 am, before she called her mother after 5 am.
VAQUERA: Oh my god..What brought that info out? Why does it always take one person being found dead , or suspects finally being taken into custody, for certain areas to be specifically searched, or researched as to discover other possible victims? I have dreaded this moment. Right in front of her school…I keep thinking about how she was so excited that day because she had the money for her little lamb she wanted to buy.
Jeremy Miller- convicted of abusing Misti in 2005
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInma…SessionID=9077
court records related
http://www.flaglerclerk.com/pa/?Acce…6+Start+Search
http://www.flaglerclerk.com/pa/?Acce…6+Start+Search
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I never saw this before today!
Thats actually what I thought also!!!not sure but i think youre right!
All i know is thats the timeline supposedly!
Just figured it might help you guys with the info you need!
I am gonna hush,and watch,lol
I am sure he was scared he would become a suspect. Misty did share her concerns about Tommy early on as well. So I would guess he is stupid and innocent or stupid and guilty.
and yes,i can be totally unbias b/c somebody is guilty and I don’t care who it is in the end,if you know what i am saying,i say it in a good way tho!
True TexMom,and now sometimes i think what if Tommy caught Misty beating her or worse and just told diff stories too confuse le!
No don’t stop Cathy that is the only way these facts will become crystal clear is that we all do the work to uncover the truth.
I mean if i were there,i would have broadcast it everywhere so i wouldn’t be looking guilty!
CathyJo: OOps, here we go: Misty claimed that at 8pm both Jr. and Haleigh were put to bed and she even told authorities they were watching “Air Bud”, ” because that was their favorite movie.
Oh, I’m already getting a headache thinking about the BLANKETS. (DRUMROLL PLEASE)
I know but if anything TexMom,believe me i will confuse you more! ask anybody!
Me Too RonFan,because IMO those blankets play a huge role somewhere!
I dunno about you all,but they played a bigger role to Misty at the time than Haleigh,b/c it seemed to me that she had to make it known she washed blankets!over and over a milion times she told that!
I’ll tell ya what I think,I think those blankets had another mans dna!
NO you wont. I been around the block a thousand times. LOL I know my way around.
TY Tho,TexMom,but don’t say I didn’t warn ya..lol
Another fact: (and it was said that LE confirmed this, how I don’t know) Ron stated the only 2 people who even had a key to the back door were himself, and the landlord of the MH. Supposedly, LE questioned the landlord and he was cleared.
Scary, though. (why would he still have a key, that’s creepy).
Ron was very stern in his statement of him and landlord having those keys only…
But, like ya’ll are saying, anyone could have opened it when they were there earlier, so they could get entrance later on.
Wasn’t Timmy there that day, too? I remember someone here told me that.
Cathy I agree that the point Misty wanted to make clear is she washed HaLeighs blanket.
IDK if stret smart Misty would be so stupid with the help of hardened criminal cousin Joe or Dopey Tommy to not get rid of the blanket and HaLeighs nightshirt if they would be pieces of evidence they could possible be used aginst any of them.
Right too RonFan,also knowing Misty couldn’t see the door with the big door shut?? they could have propped it open that day before they left!
Timmy was not there that day.
Right TexMom!!!
And also i’d say they were in a hurry and maybe even had to stop staging the scene when Ron pulled in!Because really if Misty is guilty I don’t think she did it on purpose,IMO it was accidental or she got caught doing something,remember the couch bouncing?
Misty claims the door was wide open, it is possible that ron and or Misty moved the clothing that was on the floor that allowed the door to close to that 6 inches or they could of closed the door to a state of 6 inches.
I have a hard time believing that Misty nor Ron went in and out of that back door after discovering Haleigh missing. Know what I mean.
CathyJo: Yes indeed!!! Misty’s blanket on the window because there wasn’t a curtain…
Haleigh peed on her blanket..
Misty suddenly gets a lightbulb in her head “hmmm, think I’ll wash this blanket now at 8pm, take mine off the window and let Haleigh use it, dry her blanket in the meantime..Uggghhhh.
Wait, I’m confused, I really thought Misty said her blanket was on the window, but now I remember her saying her blanket was in the van that “they” took. And why in the H*** would you ramble on and say that detail on the news? Why, because your subconsiously trying to cover up, right?
The thing about the staging was that Jr was awake when Ron arrived home.
If you where going to stage something why not pretend to be asleep when Ron gets home and have him discover that HaLeigh was missing and find Misty and Jr. asleep in bed.
Why turn on a light if you are staging a break in that you are supposed to sleep thru as well.
I also would like to know why would they walk to that pond in the woods if they where just going to remove HaLeigh and dispose of and hide her body?
Exactly TexMom,Misty discovered her gone,why the hello did she not go out the backdoor…..k.i give her the benefit of being scared too before calling Ron but she met Ron at the door telling him his daughter was gone and the bdoor was propped open,ok Ron said she told him that at the door too,so why the hello would Ron not go straight out the backdoor?? That bothers me?? on N/G he said he looked under beds,closet etc…then he “discovered the door open with a block” why would he not look out back first?
I think all the players in Halieghs life had many problems.I dont like to take sides but i believe in evidence,the truth.In this being said.I dont want anyone involed in Halieghs life to be hurt anymore than they have already been,From Haliegh being taken,or harmed.They are doing enough of hurting to their selves,an to each other.
But i would like to know who harmed Haliegh,or abducted her.If its Misty an facts come out,as did against Casey.then Charge her for it.Sometimes things arnt as they seem. As far as the videos,it could be the only parts with anything someone would look at as strange.Is the parts we have seen.The other parts could have nothing on them,worth viewing.I want truth,not people who know they are being videoed.–Facts!!
To me for LE to wait a yr,an have no anwsers.This arrest could have been just because the pressure was on them from people,or someone higher up.I admit,the drug bust happening took the heat off of them for a while.Where many thought they were doing nothing.I respect LE ,but have known,an seen some bad ones in my life!!!
Praying always for Haliegh
Ronfan take a deep breath and relax, lol. Misty left her blanket somewhere during her weekend and we do not even know the truth as to where it is and how it would play into the time line in question. Misty claims she washed a blanket she removed from the window and I am going out on a limb and assuming they had mini blinds because I just do not see a 17 year old pulling the only cover for that bedroom window down to have a cover. I would of cranked up the heat and wore some more clothes,because I would be and was scared of the dark.
I have had this recurring horrible thought that when Jr. spoke of the couch bouncing, that if somebody was w/Misty, poor Haleigh woke up and whoever that person was got nervous and did something to her. (scared to death of Ron)
Remember Ms. Neves saying that Jr. did tell them about the couch bouncing, but then “some other people” had restated it incorrectly? I think it was on Geraldo. Its on you tube. She was mad, too. She said it in a very accusatory manner.
I would of been looking high and low in the home as well knowing that HaLeigh was scared of the dark, but, the back door open was a definate sign she was no longer in the trailer. Ron arrived home at 3:24 and told Misty to call 911 at 3:27 LE was on the sceane at 3:40 and Rons mother showed up there after. Not to much time and when it is pretty obvious that someone took HaLeigh where would they look?
She said they had the blanket on the window b/c they live in a trailer park so i assumed no blinds…dunno tho!
I have a problem with the evolving story that was revealed having come from Jr. by way of Crystal.
Ron,thats what i have always thought,why i don’t think it was purposely,Haleigh was old enough to tell her dad!Thats why I say another mans dna on the blanket!
It must have been the only blankets they had I assume!
Cathy just because one lives in atrailer park does not mean the windows where not covered with mini blinds. I would assume the blanket was covering the blind to block out more light for Ron to sleep days(morning) because he was on the late shift.
But she did say “my blanket was in the van that “they” took. What was the deal w/dirt on the van, NayNay saying it was moved, and something about it being backed up to the pond and that’s how the van got dirty? Oh man, I gotta go get a glass of wine, (right after I wash my blanket)LOL
Plus, I need to go on Youtube and rewatch the interview w/ Princess NayNay. Man, they should have included subtitles, like on a foriegn movie. Gotta get some popcorn to eat while I watch it.
I have lived in trailers my entire life almost TexMom,I didn’t mean it that way,I was saying but didn’t know how,lol that b/c neighbors were so close being in a trailer park!But you’re right about knocking the light out,I have no idea but I don’t remember seeing any of the pix of it with a shade even showing at all in the windows!
brb daughter calling!
That sliced and diced interview? Funny how Nay Nay bond was revoked, guess her dirt was no bueno. Remember Misty’s fears of being bonded out and if she can not deliver the goods it would be revoked. How would she know they work they if Nay Nay had not shared with Misty all the details when they where paling around again.
I do have a thought about the possibility of a stranger abdution…I’ve heard it here some time ago, and I think it bears repeating…isn’t the river behind the mobile home some distance? A sex offender crosses the river in a boat, docks and gets his feet wet in the attempt, walks to trailer, enters with wet (squeeky shoes) and takes Haleigh….leaves into the woods back to his boat thus the scent followed into the woods? just a thought.
Texasmommy39 said,in March 7th, 2010 at 8:10 pm Misty claims the door was wide open, it is possible that ron and or Misty moved the clothing that was on the floor that allowed the door to close to that 6 inches or they could of closed the door to a state of 6 inches.
I have a hard time believing that Misty nor Ron went in and out of that back door after discovering Haleigh missing. Know what I mean.******************************************************************************************
I need to clarify that I beleive Ron and or Misty went in and out of the backdoor before police arrived I know I would of to look for HaLeigh.
Okay I thought Ron had made the statement that they didn’t have detergent so Misty could not have washed clothes or “blanket” that night?
I have a question?
Did the LE every take the door off and to see if there was any fingerprints or other evidence ?
CathyJo, couple changes needed for your timeline. Ron did not call Marie. It was Teresa that called Crystal. Crystal later called Marie
I have yet to see a statement coming directly from Ron about there not being any laundry soap. She could of very well of used any other cleaning agent in the home, we don’t know the details just the outline.
The door was never taken that I know of, but, the screen door was. It was taken a week or more after the trailer was released back to Ronald.
Why did they not take the back door? That does not make sense ?
I guess I watch to much forensic Files.lol
That’s right Texasmommy, we’ve only seen Tim Miller talk about the laundry soap
It was odd to me as well. I do believe there have been lots of mistakes made or there was no evidence to recover and that is why we are here a year later. IMO all LE has is circumstantial evidence at best maybe because LE failed or the criminal was smart and left no trace.
Well if if was a smart criminal than that would rule out Misty.lol
Anyone want to offer a theory as to why the abductor chose to walk HaLeh to that pond in the woods and then back to Green Lane?
LMAO KY MOM
IMO that alne should rule out all the Croslins.
Please forgive my keyboard gremlins or my wpm mistakes LOL
Also what is the chance Tommy or even Cousin Joe would get lost trying to leave the trailer park?
We know JS knew where Ron lived.
We also know JS used to work with the dogs Texasmommy.
I just think all of this points to Misty . I think Haleigh would have yelled or something and if Misty was in a dead sleep than Jr. would have woke up…..
Didn’t Misty say she didn’t want to watch the kids that night?
Curious IMO chad did the deed.
Texasmommy39 said,in March 7th, 2010 at 8:31 pm I have a problem with the evolving story that was revealed having come from Jr. by way of Crystal.
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As do I. I would like to know what he said to LE, where he would have been dealing with professionals trained at taking statements from children, and the events would have been fresh in his memory. Kids that age have very active imaginations, and he might come up with many stories about what happened that night, but I think by far the most reliable version is the one he gave LE that night…and we have no idea what he told LE, but I think we can assume that if he told them he saw Misty harm or remove Haleigh from the home, LE would have intervened and sought to have Jr. removed immediately.
Texasmommy39 said,in March 7th, 2010 at 9:35 pm Curious IMO chad did the deed.
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I still have a number of theories involving different people, and certainly strongly suspect Tommy & Joe. But equally tied with them on my suspect list is Chad & Marie. The false alibi, foundation created in record time, warrant just having been served etc.
Texasmommy39 said,in March 7th, 2010 at 9:04 pm I have yet to see a statement coming directly from Ron about there not being any laundry soap. She could of very well of used any other cleaning agent in the home, we don’t know the details just the outline.
The door was never taken that I know of, but, the screen door was. It was taken a week or more after the trailer was released back to Ronald.
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My guess re that door…they swabbed it for DNA samples when they were investigating the home. Those results came back after they “unsecured” the home. Found something of interest in the DNA samples, and decided to retrieve the door. Or perhaps they hadn’t run all the prints through the computer before they left the home, and when they did they discovered a print of interest, so went back to get the door in case it is needed for evidence in a trial some day.
Misty needs a motive. If it was an accident when did it happen and did Misty (phone off at 8:30 after talking to Ron) just wait for someone to stop by to help her out to hide a body that has never been found and all evidence that would incriminate Misty and her accomplice? Dumb girl should of remembered Haleigh’s Pink HM shirt that she claimed Haleigh was wearing and still in the trailer. IDK I have tried and tried and can not find Misty guilty of harming, hiding HaLeigh or staging the trailer like that and capable of fool LE for over a year.
MOTIVE, ABILITY and OPPORTUNITY are not clear enough to me with the evidence that we know and I can not say at this time that I believe Misty is guilty.
And JS used to work for PCSO…and I can’t help but wonder if that’s what saved the Sheffield side from being properly investigated.
I agree me Jr.’s statements that early morning are what are important. IMO Jr.’s story must of collaberated enough with Misty’s to definatly rule out Misty harming HaLeigh by abuse or if there was someon else in the home that night that he knew of. He might of also been able to tell LE where everyone slept that night and what movie he watched and what e ate for dinner.
The testamony of children have solved cases before.
It is possible Chad did,and IMO if he did i believe he propped the door open to come back after Jr but maybe Misty came home at that time!
I don’t think too much about the pink shirt….if she was going to stage things, you’d think she’d get rid of it rather than say Haleigh was missing in it. If it had anything incriminating on it, someone likely would have been charged by now.
I think re the shirt there are a few explanations….Haleigh was old enough to remove it herself, and may have done it at some point after they went to sleep….Misty left the house for awhile and left Haleigh alone, or with Tommy etc, and the last time she saw Haleigh she was wearing the shirt (I think it’s possible Misty went out, but I think it’s unlikely as LE apparently have no evidence of that and haven’t charged her with anything)….the perp didn’t want Haleigh easily recognizable, so left the shirt behind (the description that goes out always includes the clothes the child was wearing). Or Misty just got it wrong re what shirt Haleigh was wearing. I just don’t see anything sinister pointing towards Misty re that shirt.
Me either Me!
CathyJo,
Possibly misty just came home or started to wake up…it may be that the perp is what woke her. Re Chad’s “alibi”, the only thing I know for sure is that his first alibi was a false one. Why did he need a false alibi and why would Marie (and probably Crystal) give him one?
brb…snack time!
me it is funny that many throw a blind eye on that point. I have a video to share with all please google
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local-beat/Officer-Goes-on-Tirade-After-Yanking-Man-From-Drain-86653357.html
Watc the video and tell me hoyou feel about this incident.
I have my reasons for asking.
BINGO Me,exactly!!!!
Thats what I say,and also it is said,(dunno for sure)but JS told I believe Cobra that he saw Misty that night out somewhere,if thats true,why was he watching her? one watched while 2 or 3 others did the deed!They could have done it and not let cs know,she aint too bright so i don’t think i’d have let her know!
Chad is mg step son right? Maybe his dad didn’t want him paying cs’s csupport because they were getting married,lol I know thats crazy but worse has happened,ya know? nothing shox me about those ppl!
I need to confirm that court date and time for the child support hearing that Crystal was served with. I have recently heard it was scheduled for that very morning at 8:AM. It would be sad for this not to of been A HUGE RED FLAG for LE if this we true, and IMO even if it where within that week.
Crystal knew something by the time she had that interview with her mother and had a Grand Canyon pause when asked what did she think happened to HaLeigh and Marie’s look was just as revealing IMO.
I am not bashing I promise.
It is behavior I found to be beyond odd and a little suspicious.
arch 7th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
BINGO Me,exactly!!!!
Thats what I say,and also it is said,(dunno for sure)but JS told I believe Cobra that he saw Misty that night out somewhere,if thats true,why was he watching her? one watched while 2 or 3 others did the deed!They could have done it and not let cs know,she aint too bright so i don’t think i’d have let her know!
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I’ve never heard that before. when did he say he saw her out? he gave very few interviews.
Yes, Chad is MG’s current husband’s son.
I bet there were a few people very unhappy when Crystal received the warrant. I’d love to see their telephone records from the time she received it, til the time Haleigh went missing. $12 000 is a whole lot of money to Crystal & Chad, and they were under threat of having their possessions taken & sold etc. And they already had at least 3 full time kids between them (not including Haleigh & Jr). I am shocked that not even one reporter has asked her how she felt when she got the warrant, or asked about how and why it was that Marie gave him a false alibi. What was the father of an infant doing out at 5am, and why did he need a false alibi?
Re Crystal….I also doubt she was in on the plan (theorising), but would not be surprised if she knows all about it, and has been instructed by Marie to just keep pointing the finger, and bashing Ron & Misty and they’ll look after the rest for her.
Texasmommy…I’ve read that recently about Court being that day, but to the best of my recollection she had just been served with the warrant a day or 2 before Haleigh went missing. I’ll do some searching to see what I can find.
CathyJo63 said,in March 7th, 2010 at 9:56 pm It is possible Chad did,and IMO if he did i believe he propped the door open to come back after Jr but maybe Misty came home at that time!
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Cobra shared a little info about bricking open doors. He claims he witnessed Jr. bricking the motel room door open they where all staying in. He also mentions that Crystal and Marie does this out at the farm.
I have a confession I brick open my doors toto allow the fresh cool breaze to save me some money in the spring and the fall. Yes I have an alibi, I just have to remember it. Heck I may need hypnosis. LOL
Did anyone watch the video of the officer?
Right Me,they all had motive that was very open,why no investigation I will never usnderstand,if just for those reasons alone!
I heard it somewhere,rather read it LoL Vaq! I’ll try to find it!!
what officer TexMom?
i just found this at first coast news…
“A motion was filed by the state’s Department of Revenue on Ronald Cummings’ behalf against Sheffield for contempt. It was dated February 3rd, a week before Haleigh disappeared.
A hearing was set for Sheffield for March 27.
Ronald Cummings, Haleigh’s father, told First Coast News he received a copy of the document about the hearing the day before Haleigh vanished. Cummings appeared frustrated about the timing of the document’s arrival and his daughter’s disappearance.
Sheffield’s mother, Marie Griffis, said her daughter did not want to discuss the issue.
Griffis said her daughter recently stopped working when she was pregnant with her third child. She said a few months after the baby was born, Sheffield started looking for work, and has not found a job.”
I notice marie lied and said her daughter recently stopped working when pregnant! And not surprised Crystal “did not want to discuss the issue”. That family did a great job of diverting. Gotta give em that.
GeeeeeeWiz,when did she work??
I am ashamed to say I know this officer. My husband called me today and told me to look this up without telling me who this officer was and when he got home this evening he wanted to watch it with me adtenhe revealed who this officer was and I was realy not shocked, but, very upset. MY husband agrees with this …unnecasary brutality and states that the whole story that is not revealehere in that video makes this officer actions jutifiable even though they are wrong.
I know the whole story and it still IMO did not warrant his actions. I am willng to bet every officer and friend (my husband ) will agree with this behavior and will defend it. IT IS THE WAY IT IS PEOPLE. They are human just like us and the do bad things as well until they get not caught, but, exposed.
She can’t get out of bed to hold a job for crying out loud,why she wouldn’t take Haleigh to the dr?
Something i just thought of again too……
I remember cs saying she had to move the hbc because she couldn’t drive to the one they had set up and I thought,so mg wouldn’t take her everyday to the town her daughter went missing in!
gremlin in computer.
I meant what officer Me??? LoL SHEWWW!!
Scratch that,I dunno what i mean….shewww
Gremlins in my brain!
Going through PC court records…Johnny & Marie were divorced in 94. He married a Jennifer at some point, and both Jeniffer & marie have sought restraining orders against him. Marie also sought a restraining order against Johnny’s uncle, who she was with after she and Johnny broke up. And Johnny’s uncle (Johnny Lauramore) also sought a restraining order against JS.
CathyJo63 said,in March 7th, 2010 at 10:32 pm what officer TexMom?
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http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local-beat/Officer-Goes-on-Tirade-After-Yanking-Man-From-Drain-86653357.html
This officer. Sorry
me have you checked out his ex wife jennifer? She puts alot of them to shame with her record.
OMG!The closer kin the ………LoL Well ya know,OMG
See,that pisses me off,that bunch is shady as hell and not even frikkin questioned!!
mg record is as long as the titanic before it went down!
I think I got the Johnny vs Johnny injunction wrong. Noticed Johnny Lauramore also had a Patricia Lauramore seek an injunction against him. And Crystal grew up with these men!
And we all know Chad’s ex had a 2 year restraining order out against him to protect her and the kids.
I just wonder if Connie is such a goodie goodie as she appears to be? JS seems to like those bad girls.
Connie’s momma sure was waving around that she had info and it was dangerous enough to need to hide if she told and wanted to be paid.lol.
yet they have went by the book,hell fire they’d be the 1st ones i’d check out,Also that guy that identified js as a person he’d saw on the Haleigh siting!
brb
Texasmommy…just watched that video. Men like that should not be allowed to carry weapons or have a position of authority…..but too many do.
We seemed to he gotten off our topic. The trailer and the evidence. Was it staged or did Tommy do it and or cousin Joe,or did someone call in a favor with the A/C man who has an alibi that night and morning. Family connections as well should have been looked at concerning the A/C man. My understanding it was Ron’s cousins ex that worked at the Company as well. It has been researched and revealed that these families connect and cross each others path through marriages. This is where the labyrinth would begin my friends, we have just been dealing with the easy, superficial stuff. LOL
I know. Like I said I am ashamed.
CathyJo…plus the fake search…wth was that about and why did they stage it? What were they hoping to accomplish. I thought PCSO Major Gary Bowlings statements on that in December were hinting at the fact that they were looking at that side of the family as suspects. But that was just my interpretation, he never came out and said that….but he certainly knew about the fake search and commented on it.
I must be getting tired to make all these typos. I will see y’all in the morning. HaLeigh will be found and we will seek justice.
Exactly right Me! this bunch would be the first on my lst!How can they say they checked every possibility? My God,its more than possible?
and not to mention the room under the dang barn…..come on!
This is throwed together-but what i think could have happened if Misty was home that night-of course,it just my thoughts–Still looking forward to the investigation you are going to do here.
Rons off to work.Misty lets the children play in the yard.Someone uses the rest room,an unlocks the door-Maybe!!
After everyone leaves.Misty cooks,feeds the babies,an washes the dishes.Dang she tired.its about 6/40. GG Sykes drops cloths off at 7.She knows Ron cares for Misty,an The children,but she upset at Misty for being gone the weekend.The children like her because she play with them an is young. Ron needs a older woman-but he needs someone an if Misty will just stop leaving every time her an Ron fight.Maybe it will work.
Misty starts cleaning the house,kids are fighting over a movie-she puts one in room, after bath time-another on the couch.to settle them before she cleans-she slaps the house together stuffing cloths out the floor in the dryer.sees more cloths on the floor ,thinks Ron will just have to get mad,im tired,an leaving them till tomorrow.He didnt do anything the weekend. She thinks Im so tired,i dont want to do anything but go to bed.I wish Teresa would have kept Haliegh,i could have done been in bed with jr,asleep by now.Hes little an listens better.Sweet Haliegh has a way all her own,she growing an is the little woman of the house .An likes to stay up late.
Ron keeps calling fussing back, an forth.Misty gets mad,his egos hurt about WBG.He gets mad.an she tired of hearing it.She trys to tell him shes going to get it straight,an wont do it no more. She just cuts the phone off!!!
800pm she makes Butterbean get off the couch,an go in get in the bed.He just gets on top whats on the bed.Misty put dvd-in game system so the can watch movie. she goes to check Haliegh smells pee,an decieds to wash the blanket.Remembers their other blankets is in the van,she takes the one off the window an throws over RonJr,hes on top the spread.Mistys wore out.to much partying the weekend.She throws the blanket ove Jr.
she goes to wash Halieghs blanket-but dang Ron has no detergent,so she uses the last of the dish detergent,an washes blanket.Hangs out on the couch watching a movie,snacking.Shes happy to be back with Ron.But hes wearing her out fussing 900-pm
After washer finishes,instead of taking all the dirty cloths back out the dryer,she throws the blanket over something near a vent,its cold out heaters kicking.She finishes her movie.10/10:30 pm-blankets dry its thin.Well butterbean didnt get under the spread,so shes not going to wake him by moving him.He has the blanket thrown on top.Halieghs blanket is put over her.. M runs back an turns Kitchen light off. she wants no company tonight to tired.Not long shes in rem sleep-then deep sleep.Its dark-quiet-an peacful.Haliegh wets again, wakes she slips up an changes shirts,an crawls back in bed.
But little did she know,they were being watched.Hes been watching the little girl who stays in the trailor.Knows Rons working the night shift..He stood at the edge of the woods,cold wind blowing. He Gives them time to know they are fast asleep. Getting ready to block the back door with a block,he saw there before.An slowly creeps to the back door,he knows ,its unlocked,an waiting.. Slips in, adjust his eyes, and listens to the 3 with their soft breathing.See hes a creeper,The closer he gets to the little girl the more excited he gets..He knows how to make sure no prints are left.He has been in homes,an he has done this before.He eases around to the right,then turns right the room door they are in.The doors cracked an he heres silence,only soft breathing.From 3 who think they are safe snuggled in their beds.His eyes ajusted now he sees her,an eases Haliegh up,she shifts,Hes prepared to put his hand over her face,if she wakes.but she settles, Misty sleeps never turning over.
.Turns the corner to the little hall,that leads to the back door,propped open with a block he slips out,an into those very dark woods out back he slips away into the night.Hes clear heading for where he parked.Haliegh wiggles—-
Ron Jr wakes thirsty,crawls over Misty,an heads for the kitchen,he reaches an flips the light on right around the corner outside the bedroon door in the hall/kitchen.Never notices the door,half asleep.Goes to the fridge.Get a drink an goes back an slips in by Misty.Never cuts the light off.
Misty wake,is getting chilly in the house from the back door being open-shes unaware of this-she has to pee,an shes thirsty–she staggers up rubbing her eyes,an head to the kitchen.An notices the light-OMG what have Haliegh ,an Jr been into-so she heads to look,sees the door open–an Startled still half asleep she runs to the room reaches for her phone,an notices Halieghs gone.From then on,her heads spinning.She calls Tommy to see if anyones been by,have they seen Ron with Haliegh,thinking he may have got off early-calls Ron.an starts searching bedrooms,back yard,
She was heading to check the front yard-Hears Rons Truck pulling up.An Ron says hey -why are you up,an why did you cut the bleepin phone off-then he gets a CHILL-he can see shear panic in her expression.WTH is it Misty–Halieghs missing,i woke up an she gone-Misty says blubbering,crying-Ron gets more irritated by the min,an 911 was called….at that monent-Halieghs gone the apple of her daddys eye.An hes pissed,an scared for Haliegh,Jr crying scard–with each passing moment it escilates–their lives as they knew it will never be the same—–
1 yr later as of Febuary-still Haliegh has not been found.Im going Good night Thanks for putting up with me.I will stop by agian.This is just one avanue,that could have happened.Many more avinues to go-I cant wait to see how ,an who you will be investigating tomorrow.
Keep up the good work,an thoughts
Jan
The more i think about what has been said here in the past few minutes,the madder i get!Had to walk away for a second!Its frikkin rediculous!
me i have so much to say aout that search can we pick up on that tmorrow. LOL
Jan,are you sure you weren’t there?? LoL Not funny but that wore me out!
I hate to say I stopped reading when yosaid Misty leaned the house……. Have you seen t al thru? Thekitchen sink was piled high and TN admitted her was dirty clothes on the floor that had been wrapped up and rown on top orf th aher dryer. Se did’nt even know HaLeigh’s blanket smelled like pee till she went to put her to bed.
Misty tells us what she did do and believe me she never said she cleaned house. The only cleaning done that night was the washing machine washing the blanket.
I am sorry leaned is cleaned lol and i ment to say have you seen the walk tru?
I promise I am going to read it in full in the am.LOL Night y’all and stop by more often Jan.
gnite!!
g’nite Texas…I look forward to hearing your thoughts re the “search” tomorrow!
Jan, great theory and I think it’s all quite possible. Re the light though, I think the perp may have turned it on…he might have needed some light, but of course didn’t want to turn the bedroom light on, and he had the door already bricked open for an easy escape if Misty woke.
Remember theres a Chad who did a B& E, an molested a child under 12-Went to Putnum jail-he went missing during that time to.the car he was driving was found near Marion co line-he has never been found,as last i heard.Unless a new update came out.I just thought of him .
I think if RonJr did see someone in black/or black-WBG isnt black skinned.,an the couch bouncing-could it have been Haliegh on the couch,an Misty was gone.Cheap Tennis shoes make squeeky sounds,on a floor.
Texas,
The actual warrant documents are in a video on the first coast news website.
I just watched the video, and not only did Marie lie about Crystal having a job til she got pregnant, she also said she found her job too laborious once she got pregnant! Tried to make it sound like she was struggling hard to work through her pregnancy but just couldn’t do it. Too bad the reporter wasn’t keen to follow that up with what we know now. Marie also said she thought Chad would pay some of the support…but as we all know, that didn’t happen either! The timing of her receiving the warrant might just be the key to this case, imo. I really hope LE have checked all their phone records to see who she contacted when she received the warrant….and whether she even tried to call Chad when she got the call from Satsuma that night.
Hey it was just what i would have thought would have happened.I have read so much,in news reports.An not much eveidence has been released.But i was writting on that a while,an watching tv lol-i missed a lot of your thoughts,an evidence you brought up.while i was writting what may have taken place.
We wernt inside i guess we will never know that.I did put washed the blanket after finding the pee smell,when taking Haliegh to bed.-lol i thought.An i knew she had a lot of dirty cloths there,i thought she would have stuffed some in dryer to get out the hall,an i know some was left on the floor.Strung near back door.Truth is some one murdered,an hid Haliegh-or A perv,took her ,an then may have murdered her.Or Sheffieds side had her removed from the home,an taken else where.My lord it just breaks my heart,That she hasnt been found.1 yrs a long time to hear nothing.
A CHILD GONE WITH OUT A TRACE.
You all brought up many good things that were questionable.Mine was just what i would have thought ((could have happened)).Notice i said SLAP the house together lol.To me it looked like they didnt have to much,inside the home.An when all my gang comes over.I just let them enjoy staying,i clean when they leave.
The 12,000 an the papers being sent to C.Sheffield was a good point.being it was a week prier to Haliegh missing.(MOTIVE)
I always felt strange about Tommy-He seems to have been real strung out.A night stealer,may have worn dark cloths.An knocking on the door-instead of going to the bedroom window to wake Misty seems off to me. But also Misty not being home is plausable.An Haliegh being taken.
An no i didnt know she didnt wash the supper dishes.lollol An many bed wetter get up an change when they wet-some hide their cloths ashamed,may have been picked at about it,or fussed at.We had one in our family-she was 7 when she stopped-couldnt give any thing but water after 5,asmall bladder was her prob.She even hide her sheets in the closet shame.
Well im gone wound down now–see you another time.Keep up the good investigating.You may solve,or come close to what really happened-
GOOD NIGHT
Jan
I’ve been reading the theory and am another who thinks some guy may have took Haleigh out the back door. Except, Haleigh went to school that day and should have went to sleep pretty easily. Junior was the one who was probably up half the night due to taking a late nap. Misty said he was up walking thru the door as she went to sleep and he says a man in black took his Sissy. People who don’t clean let kids sleep where they flop. Jr. was probably on that couch where he watched movies and saw a man take Haleigh. People who don’t clean also fluff dirty clothes in dryers to rewear them. Misty may have washed the blanket and dried it in with dirty clothes thinking it would dry faster or too lazy to take them out. She said it took about an hour for the blanket to dry. And, I could swear that Teresa said there was a pile of dirty clothes on the floor. Myself, I think she could of left the kids alone for a bit and Tommy knew it when he admits coming by the trailer. Supposedly, the big bed wasn’t even slept on at all, was all made up, and cops say Misty was not doing what she said she was.
Oops, wanted to add that if a clean fresh blanket was found at the trailer, someone in the family may have had one just like Haleigh’s blanket and replaced hers or washed it at his house. For some reason there had to be an explanation about washing the blanket.
When you said people who don’t like to clean ‘fluff’ dirty clothes in the dryer, I immediately recalled the image of Misty showing up in court with very greasy, dirty looking hair.
The above is in response to one of Viola’s posts.
Good point you make, Viola, about Haleigh more likely than JR to be tired, as she went to school all day, while he napped.
Great discussion yesterday evening (starting around 5:46 pm)! Looking forward to more of that kind of civilized, respectful contribution of ideas from many people! Bravo!
Can’t stay today but I will catch up and be sure to read it all!
Have a great day, everyone!
Cathy, When you looked up the case about J.Miller it only says Misty was to testify. Since we have no proof of what happened she could have been tesifying for any number of reasons. Someone else could have been the victim and Misty was there or knew something about it. Just saying we should not assume anything without proof.
I have doubts because his name was never brought up when she was blaming Joe and Tommy of messing with her in the voice analysis. I have my doubts about what really happened and would really like to see the case files for that crime. I always wondered if she was babysitting then too? Guess we will never know since it is sealed. jmo
Cathy, I am not trying to discount your theory about JMille but the guy had no prior records of anything but driving an ATV without a helmet, seems weird to me.jmo
“My feeling all along, Haleigh is not in this area. I’ve been adamant about it. I know she’s out of state somewhere. Don’t ask me how I know, it is right here in my gut,” Haleigh’s grandmother, Marie Griffis, told First Coast News reporter Lindy Thackston at a vigil Thursday night. The family has held the vigil every night since Haleigh disappeared.
“I have no idea why, but I know HaLeigh is fine, but I don’t feel HaLeigh’s… I don’t feel HaLeigh here in this area – she’s not here – she’s, she’s somewhere else – someone has got her and has transported her out of Florida and something just keeps – it stays in my mind constantly, Georgia – Alabama – Georgia Alabama.”
“Everybody tells me, well a sexual offender done this. I just don’t feel that. Whoever has her knows her,” Griffis
He also could have been the one she ranaway with to New Jersey. Crossing state lines and having sex could be why he took a plea. That offense would mean more time even though he was only 17 at the time. Misty was under the age of consent, but from what has recently been reported she got her bus ticket with a fake ID so I take it she was the master mind in that too. jmo
Texasmommy, Amber D. grandmother and her parents thought and said the same thing on NG the other night. I would hope her relatives would believe she is alive. jmo
As long as everyone thinks she is still alive they will keep searching for her and LE wont close the case. I think the town of Satsuma has given up hope since they dont have posters up in town. Others in Florida arent going to give up yet, St. Augustine for instance. And if like some believe these people took her and have her hid why would they still be trying to get everyone to look in Georgia or Alabama for a live Haleigh? They would want everyone to quit looking so they would not get caught. jmo
This is very interesting people. Tell me what you think about this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sAYN7hq9Xs
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/13/ijvm.01.html
SNIPPED BY ME FOR SPACE:
GRIFFIS: I don`t know anything about the TV. My daughter, Crystal, has been in that house, and she said Haleigh and Junior have beds set up in one room and then there`s a big bed in the room that, I guess, Ronald and Misty would sleep in, and that`s the one that we understand that they were all three in.
The above interview was 03/13/2009
I am sorry it was dated 02/13/2009
March 22,
The Sheffield and Griffis family and friends conducted a search in San Mateo.
Those present at that search where:
Johnny Sheffield
Connie Sheffield
Marie Griffis
John Reagan
Jeremiah Reagan
Judy Lucia (Blstark)
Gunny, Judys dog.
We have all heard about the items found and where not wanted by the PCSO, but, interesting enough we have Kim P. stating that her investigators found something and turned it over to LE;
REPORTER’S NOTES 3/26/09
The “Man in Dark Clothes” Lead Re-Appears
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4091345.php
Attorney Kim Picazio also told me that her investigators have been searching areas she claims police failed to search. One of those searches yielded a cloth sheet or blanket that was found to have rust and what appears to be blood on it. That piece of cloth has been turned over to investigators in the case.
This area that police failed to search was supposedly a psychic tip to Connie, and it was not the DOG that led them there from Satsuma.
The purpose of this search is obvious, even LE stated that this family has a agenda.
We know that Nay Nay an Amber were arrested on April 20,2009. I want to know how did the Sheffield/ Griffis family know exactly where to look for the contents and keys to Nay Nays car.
I do know that research has uncovered a family connection to amber and Crystal. Is it possible that Amber is in on this plot with the Sheffields and revealed some (alot IMO) of info to Crystal and Marie in hopes of framing Nay Nay an Misty along with WBG? Seems that way to me.
Inn case some dont know new thread!! Interesting stuff.
ANYONE HEAR THE CONVERSATION BTWEEN MISTY AND LINDSEY MISTY SAYS TWO PEOPLE ONE LINDSEY REALLY CARES ABOUT AND THE OTHER SHE KINDA CARES ABOUT WILL GET HURT IF SHR TELLS WHAT SHE KNOWS ABOUT HALEIGH HER AND TOMMY DID SOMETHING TO HALEIGH SHE DID IT HE HELPED HIDE IT MY THEORY
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