We will be running our regular weekly radio wrap up of events in the Haleigh Cummings Case, and it it likely to be a pretty active program. The action has been fast and furious this week, and there are plenty of things for the panel to discuss.
Without doubt the biggest event was the arrests of Misty Croslin, Tommy Croslin, Ronald Cummings, Hope Sykes and Donna Brock. All five stand accused to being involved in prescription drug trafficking. Misty faces a maximum sentence of 74 years is found guilty.
Obviously LE will be using this unique opportunity to ask them some questions concerning the whereabouts of missing child Haleigh Cummings.
Rons arrest also precipitated an emergency custody hearing for Rons son Junior. Custody has been awarded to the biological mother Crystal Sheffield. While this was hardly a surprising move, most would agree that Crystal is hardly mother of the year material.
Friday morning saw another announcement that caused some ripples. It was announced that a bail bond company was exploring the idea of putting up the bonds for both Misty and Tommy. Interestingly they did not announce the company involved, the news was released through an intermediary. The backlash of public sentiment was swift. One can only hope that the people involved got the message loud and clear that the public did not support this idea.
As always the final make up of the panel is still being arranged however with so much happening in the case I am expecting to see them all in attendance. To listen in, just point your browser to www.blogralkradio.com a few minutes before 3pm central and you will see the program on the front page.
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I’ve been looking “down the road” so to speak to our main goal – finding Haleigh. And I wonder what the panel thinks about that.
Can these arrests help find Haleigh? Or find out what happened to her and who is responsible?
First, I’m obliged to mention that LE has stated that these arrests are not connected to Haleigh’s disappearance. “Ok, LE.” (wink. wink.)
Second, I think this magnitude of charges and possibly nearly life-long sentences are much like torture as far as “squeezing” people for info. People will say anything to make it stop, to make it better to some degree. It doesn’t mean it’s the truth.
Moving on…
Let’s say a deal is offered to someone: Why wouldn’t they lie? It’s still possible that person knows nothing or that he/she is responsible themselves but will throw blame on someone else.
It will not be satisfactory for M to say she was asleep or out and an unknown person may have entered. That won’t fly with LE for a deal. It won’t be enough, for example, for T to say M was out and the children were alone or not there. Again, it implicates an unknown perpetrator. So, no deal (IMO).
I think the only way for someone to get a deal is to say one of the other major players did it (and if not a major player, then a specific, known person).
But will it be enough for someone(especially any of THESE people) to SAY someone did it? Would the word of one of these people against another be enough to even take it to court let alone convict someone?
If the story is “believable” enough or blames someone who many people hate, it might be enough to satisfy some members of the public – and get the public off LE’s back.
Now, let’s say that the “canary” is able to provide Haleigh’s whereabouts. First I hope and pray she’s alive. But for the purposes of this discussion, let’s say she’s not.
Will there be evidence to prove who is responsible? Because the person who IS responsible could know the location and still try to implicate someone else. So even if that went to court, I think that would satisfy some members of the public and get the public off LE’s back. But it still would not really prove who did it.
Personally I am not going to assume that LE has the culprit behind bars (now or for the long-term). And I’m not going to assume that if any one of them talks that they’ll be telling the truth. At least not to the point of feeling there has been any resolution to the case or justice for Haleigh. I don’t think I’ll be able to feel that way until there is some solid proof of who’s responsible. So that’s what I’m praying for. That Haleigh is found along with real proof of who’s responsible.
I believe LE already has put the case together and will know the truth when they hear it. I believe that is why they say only one piece is missing.
I have a question as I have been busy and not on very much. The other night Truth of the matter said that Levi Page had on his face book that Teresa Neves was the next to be arrested. Did anyone follow up on what she said and found it to be true? I myself do not have a facebook.
Goodmorning m2c its always a pleasure to see you.
m2c, good morning, I agree, they need a confession to seal the deal. Lets just say that Misty did it, (and I’m not saying she did) but lets just say she did and Tommy rats her out. We know he will get a pretty sweet deal if she confesses, but what kind of deal could they possibly offer Misty that she would accept?
good morning Looking for justice and everyone!
I was rewatching Misty’s hypnosis last night and I noticed that as the htpnotist was bringing her under she was told to imagine herself sitting comfortably on a park bench with a remote or something, anyway he brought her to imagine three doors and told her to imagine herself opening the first door. As he said this, she got a strange frightened or confused look on her face… theres something about that door that she knows and isn’t saying.IMO
Referring to my post above the blogger was truth and nothing but the truth. Sorry for the wrong name.
Yesterday someone asked if anyone noticed anything different about Ron’s mugshot. After looking at it for awile, I noticed that he was wearing jewelery. Now I won’t pretend to know the rules of jail but I do know that when you are booked into jail they fingerprint you, dress you in prison garb, take your personal effects, have you sign a personal effects form as to what you entered with (so theres no mistakes later apon release) then you get your picture taken… why is Ron still wearing his jewelery? Could he be the mystery informant? It’s not like he hasn’t done that before. just thinkin’
also that would account for the smile he was sportin’ for his picture. Maybe he was thinkin’ he won’t be there long…Maybe they were’nt either.
Goodmorning methinks. You are right. He is still wearing jewelry. The processing is just as you said, but perhaps they took it later, because he is still there in jail to my knowledge. That smile on his face just irks me even if he were to be the one involved in helping get Misty jailed. I do not believe he is though. I believe if he was just involved to get Misty behind bars there would have been no reason for an emergency custody hearing and Crystal gaining full custody, something he did not want. He has now lost both of his children. All for drugs; how sad.
Good morning, looking for justice and methinks!
Good thoughts!
It would be great if LE could get the “one piece!” I guess it depends on what they know or have found (that we don’t know about) as to whether it’s enough to prove who’s responsible.
As to what kind of deal would be enough to get a confession. .. I don’t even want to put myself in the position of imagining what it would feel like to be 18 and looking at jail time that could exceed at least three decades! Maybe even exceed a normal lifetime! But I don’t know what state attornies can do – I guess they can make magical things happen!
Also, I think bonanzajellybean mentioned that if it’s a charge of manslaughter the person might only get 5 – 6 years for that (in comparison to minimum mandatory 25 years for drug trafficking).
So that’s part of what concerns me. Although presumably LE knows what they are doing, are they prepared to go easy on some really hefty jail time for trafficking in order to REALLY find out what happened to Haleigh? Will any deal be good enough for a confession? And if not, will proof be found?
Good questions m2c. It will be interesting to see how they handle it. I wonder what they have already that they have been keeping tight lipped. It has my curiosoty peaked.
Rons mug shot for Flagler County Jail has no jewelry. I dont know what mug shot you gguys are looking at but the recent one in Flagler doesnt. He is no informant he is a dealer and drug abuser. The informant in my opinion is no where to be found because PCSO may need them to work another case. jmo
Me, too, looking for justice. I guess my worst fear (as remote a possibility as it is, I guess) is that none of these people know anything. And even if one of them is responsible, if he/she does not confess, then they all go to jail for drugs and we never find out what happened to Haleigh. Because I really don’t think LE would pursue it after that.
Kinda makes you wonder about the plea Jeremy Miller took in Flafler when it involved Misty doesnt it? jmo
Sorry that was supposed to be Flagler.
The missing peice might just be the location of the remains. I can’t help but think NayNay’s letter is significant. maybe Tommy filled in the blanks, or Joe Pyco (Spelling) in his written statement. I can’t believe they would not take that seriously. It’s very possible that they drained the wrong pond. It’s probably rather expensive to drain a pond. I’m not buying for one minute that it was done for any other reason than that letter. As for their disappointment in it being released, I’m sure that in this case, ALL incoming and outgoing mail involving any of these people is monitored, and read before its forwarded. I think they let that out to “stir the turd” so to speak. jmo
And it did remember how the Cummings got upset that PCSO wasnt lettting them in on info so GGMsyke went down there. I dont remember the Sheffields getting all nervous when the pond was drained. Misty even took off on her Orlando trip then. jmo
Lol If I remember right it was to clear her head yeah right.moo
You are right Tobias. Maybe there was a reason did not let the Cummings in on the info. It sure stirred them up and chaos began.
Does anyone know why Jeremy Miller was offered a plea ? That case was sealed but I wonder what else went on there. What ever it was Misty was supposed to get drug treatment but she took off to Michigan for awhile. jmo
I will also never forget how Ron almost laughed on Nancy Grace when she said a bunch of pot heads werent going to keep a secret, they would all be talking about it. jmo
Tobias, I guess the mugshot I saw was probably his first one, before he was sent to the other jail. I guess I thought there was only one. I’m positive that one of them shows him in jewelery, but your right, him being the informant in this case is pretty far fetched. m2c, in my mind, I can’t decide for a certainty that Misty does know… Ron has taken down some dealers in the past to save his own butt, and the unwritten rule of the streets is simple…an eye for an eye. Maybe someone KNown to Ron did sneak in and take her to teach him a lesson about snitches. I’m not a big fan of Nancy Grace but I agree with one thing she said, ” These people wouldn’t be able to keep a secret like this if they wanted to.” Thats not a quote but it’s close. I don’t do near the research you guys do, ( which I appreciate BTW) because I’m not very good on the computer. This is why my scenarios and opinion change so much… and I find myself relying on my gut instinct and the good investigative work of you folks here at BNN. You guys are awesome!
Methinks, I got the impression that he was smirking because she is wrong and that the potheads(Misty, Tommy,and Ron) were keeping a secret very well. He looked like the cat that ate the canary. imho
Tobias, I guess we were thinkin’ on the same line as to Nancy Grace”s statement. I must have been typing while yours was posted.
Like alot of people have said if Ron had any body he could blame he would have went after them. But he did nothing except say he was at work and Misty didnt do anything. jmo
One thing that struck me as odd regarding Ron talking about his divorce… He said something about how its done, now go find my daughter. It was as though he was encouraged to divorce and stay away from her for awhile. If this is the case (and I’m not saying it is) Why?
LE may ask them questions but right now I think they are just glad that this bunch is going to do time even if its not for Haleigh.
You have to agree that a bird in the hand is better than 2 in the tree. lol
I think it was a strain on the drug dealing because together they were easier to watch than seperate. When they divorced everyone was watching the side show with Misty and the Croslins. No one was really watching Ron, he even quit going on interviews after that. jmo
Wow Tommys bond just got lowered. Maybe he talked?jmo
Does anyone know if it’s true if Ron made that statement about being 75% sure he knows who took her? He may have thought it was someone he snitched on, and maybe it was. This may explain why he defended Misty. He may know for sure that she is innocent. I’m afraid this thing is much bigger than anyone knows, so many players, possible scenarios, and no real evidence to point to the truth. sadly enough, Haleigh remains missing and none of these people seem to care enough to talk.
I am in the theory that they all know and played a part in it and thats why no one is going to talk. If Misty was innocent she would be long gone and no where around Ron. The truth is what has kept them together.imho
WOW Tobias, I bet your right. Where did you see that?
TJ just reported it on sky news.
PLEASE Do not allow COBRA to be on your show today. He already gave up on Haleigh once. Do not give him the platform to use her name to pump his ego and push his television show.
Tommy will come around in my opinion unless he is too involved. He will listen to his wife and his parents and to Timmy Chelsea. Remember he has 3 kids and a wife who for some dumb reason will stand behind him. jmo
Tobias, The truth and the drugs kept them together. Ron may have threatened her to stay or he would see that she gets the blame, or a bullet and the blame. battered womans syndrome is powerful especially when the woman isn’t very intelligent. Fear over rides the ability to make wise decisions.
Please, Without Cobra this whole case would have been cold after TES left (2 mo.) and without the media frenzy no one would know anything. I have been following Hasanni Campbells case and there is nothing being done because the media doesnt care. He had no one like Cobra or BNN or TJ Hart to help find him.
The only searches done were by citizens and one business owner Sheri Miller they even have a $75,000 reward Nancy Grace only had it on once. Sadly he will more than likely never get found, why? Because no one is pushing for answers like Cobra did in this case. moo
Please: I don’t think it’s fair to say that Cobra gave up on Haleigh…in fact Cobra did more than most to help find her. He worked from his own pocket, depleting his finances, was targeted, jailed and accused of having his own agenda. I personally would want him on my search if it were my child. He’s a good man, and deserves respect for his efforts.JMo
Thank you, Simon and Jan! I am looking forward to your Radio Show at 3 p.m. CST today!
Methinks, I believe Misty is the one in power on this one. She is very good at fooling people
and I still have questions about her past in Flagler. Its just gnawing at me I get the feeling that she has been dealing way before she met Ron and together they were quite a team for a while. I feel J.Miller was collateral damage in her dealings in Flagler and she skated away and he was left holding the bag. jmo
Does anyone know if a case can be opened after some one turns 18 or is it sealed forever. moo
LE ALREADY KNOWS THEY HAVE EVIDENCE THEY JUST NE COOBORATION YAY CRYSTAL
After what we know now its really wierd to hear Misty call her parents crackheads,Tommy doing drugs and acting really crazy, Joe being a criminal all his life and her poor horrible childhood. And the whole time she is all of these things and worse. She sure knows how to pull the sympathy cards doesnt she? jmo
Tobias: Your probably right about Misty being the one with the power, it could be, as you said, she’s good at fooling people or she has dirt on Ron so she does’nt have a care in the world. Please refresh my memory, who is J miller, and how does he fit in the whole mess? I just can’t keep up with all these people!LOL
This case will end on a bitter sweet note. No Haleigh but Justice for her.moo
WHY IS SO DIFFICULT FOR ANYONE TO BELIEVE MISTY ALONE COULD HARM HALEIGH AND RON IS JUST COVERING OR IN DENIAL
Tobias: also her dealings in flagler, could this be how she met ron? help me understand. i don’t know about her past in flagler.
april, that possibility has been mentioned and I’m sure many people still consider it. Very possible.
He was involved with Misty when she lived in Flagler and he is in prison. He took 8 years on lude and las. behavior plea bargain, the case is sealed so we dont know what he plead down for. Misty was to testify if it went to trial. She also recieved money from a victims fund to get drug therepy but went to Michigan.moo
April: It’s not difficult to believe, in fact it’s quite possible…who knows? except the one responsible….and obviously that person does’nt feel like talking about it.
Tobias @ 12:29pm. I won’t feel justice has been served until there is proof of what happened.
Tobias: Okay now I remember…
M2C A bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush. Do you not see at least they are not free and living like she doesnt even matter. They will have plenty of time to think about what they have done, not what they got away with. moo
methinks said,in January 24th, 2010 at 11:53 am
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I agree with you that YES this is much bigger than we all know.
Tobias, I don’t think the state gave a 13 year old girl any money. The state gave her mother money for counseling etc. From what I’ve “heard,” her mother kept the money and sent M off to recuperate as best she could with relatives out of state. With what we know about Mother Lisa, I find that believable.
Also, I believe a case regarding a minor, that is sealed, can only be opened by court order.
There is no “expiration date” on it staying sealed if that’s what you were asking?
april said,in January 24th, 2010 at 12:30 pm WHY IS SO DIFFICULT FOR ANYONE TO BELIEVE MISTY ALONE COULD HARM HALEIGH AND RON IS JUST COVERING OR IN DENIAL
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IMO I feel your right and Misty is threaten by someone and shes afraid,I feel this case is about to come to a end real soon. And the sooner the better.
M2C, Do you believe PCSO didnt look into that file if they could? And maybe this is why she has been the key from the beginning? It could be a possibility. jmo
And another thing, IF Ron did leave work early the nite Haleigh went missing, Where did the timeline really start. Makes me want to go Hmm!!I dont think it was at 3 in the morning.
Tobias: I kind of agree with m2c, I won’t think justice has been served either without the truth and haleigh’s safe return or her remains resting peacfully in a prepared grave, not some swamp somewhere. I don’t think LE will settle for less either, maybe because they’ve taken so much flack about the investigation. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure they care, but at the same time, they are’nt going to let a bunch of drug addicts make the department look bad.
What I was saying is this recent drug sting has made it possible to get answers but even if they refuse to give answers like in the past they are not going to live their lives and for get about Haleigh. They will now be in prison reguardless of the outcome. Not getting Married again, no more children, no nothing its over(johnny).moo
I guess I’m lost about something… What would J miller being in prison have anything to do with Haleigh? I feel dumb asking so bear with me so I can understand.
Tobias: I understand what you were saying in your 1:01 post…and your right, It’s better than nothing.
I was just questioning Misty prior behavior. How would we know if she was not already involved in the drug dealing lifestyle even before she met Ron. She in my opinion played the poor little girl who is stupid card too much. She even has people beleiving she is abused when I see no proof of it. moo
It’s five o’clock somewhere said,in January 24th, 2010 at 12:51 pm And another thing, IF Ron did leave work early the nite Haleigh went missing, Where did the timeline really start. Makes me want to go Hmm!!I dont think it was at 3 in the morning.
Maybe he did leave early and busted Misty with another man at that party of Chads. He might have started a fight and Haleigh may have been fatally injured. Now they’re all involved and must stay silent.just a thought, doubt it though.
It did seem that Misty was the one with all the connections. Thats why she’s the one with the most charges.
Methinks, there are so many possibilities yours may be one of them. What ever happened it was where only Misty and Ron were and possibly one other person, otherwise someone would talk. jmo
Tobias @ 12:46 – I really don’t know anything about that file, but from what I’ve heard I don’t see any connection. And since it regards a case involving a minor (about which I really don’t know anything) I’d rather not say any more about it. Okay? 🙂
So now Tommys bond is revoked? so much for getting any info fom him.
What I am leading to is LE know Misty is the ringleader and that is why she has the high bond. Whether she is the reason for Haleighs disappearence who knows.imho
Tobias has anyone found out what bond co. wanted to bail out the Croslin twins? I read it was a place out of Nevada. I believe I saw it on one of the post here. I was wondering if it has anything to do with Vegasbail. I thought Cobra was somehow going to be apart of it, due to him being a bounty hunter and all. You can find the ad on Art harris .com. It is going to be a reality series. Perhaps this is why they contacted him. They were already aquainted whether Cobra chose to be apart of it or not.
I think LE will use every thing in their sack of tricks to prevent these people from being bonded out…amisty anyway,
looking for justice, You could be right the bond company who was going to do that show may be the ones. I heard the show never got off the ground. moo
Thanks Tobias. Perhaps they thought they could use this case to highlight their debut. It is very high profile and controversial.
The question in my mind is why would you pay money to bond out someone unless you were going to get your money back somehow. If they bond them out and they dont say anything the bonder would be out the 10% they paid.moo
Tobias @ 1:25, You said, “Whether she (Misty)is the reason for Haleighs disappearence who knows.”
But,see, that’s why I’m here. I want to know who is responsible for Haleigh’s disappearance.
The flight risk here would send any bond company running for their lives…
M2C, We all are here to find that out, but you have to come to terms that may never happen.
I hope they tell us what happened but if they dont I am happy that they are not free to live a regular life. moo
Tobias, I don’t know how they would make money even if whoever they bonded out DID talk.
(Unless they followed it up, found Haleigh, or phoned in the tip to Crimestoppers).
For the bond agency to make money,”I guess they’d have to be in the media or something and make money on the publicity of it all (or interviews).
Tobias @ 1:43pm – Does that mean you strongly believe that one or more of the currently incarcerated crowd is responsible for Haleigh’s disappearance?
m2c I agree with you. I think they would do what Leonard did in the Caylee case. He had a mobile trailer they stayed in and talked with Casey to try and get info on Caylees whereabouts.When that did not work he revoked her bond. Where at the same time he had someone with her securing that there was no flight risk.
We all want to know where Haleigh is or what may of happened to this innocent little girl. Hopefully we all aill know soon.
I was looking through some old videos fron early on and i noticed something I thought was interesting. Crystal claimed that misty said Ron was shooting his gma’s morphine tablets, and in one of the videos he has track marks (I think) on on his right hand. I wish I knew how to post a link, so I could show you. Can anyone tell me how to post a link? I’m kinda’ new at this computer stuff…anyway it was a video where Marie griffis was hugging him during one of his emotional breakdaowns. The reason it stuck in my mind was because I noticed he was’nt hugging her back. When i went to rehab there were junkies that would shoot into their hands and between their fingers, It looked exactly like Ron’s hands. So I guess that makes sense, unless he punched something. Also I noticed Misty was wearing a long sleeved shirt in the hot florida sun. Could she be covering track marks on her arms?
Dont you ?
looking for justice @ 1:23 – I agree except that I believe LP revoked kc’s bond when he heard that decomp had been discovered in the car. He was thoroughly disgusted and through with her at that point.
I was interested in who/what and why bailed her out after that and I don’t think we really know (which could be similar to if this happens we may not really know either).
You are right m2c. Leonard believed she was innocent until then. Perhaps they would bail them out on the conditions they tell all they know about Haleighs disappearance and come clean now or send them back to jail and revoke their bond. Just thinking what their agendas might be.
Tobias, you know me. I like evidence, proof, etc. As I’ve always said I can see it happening a number of different ways and for different reasons. Of course the first and most basec is that M and R did it. But so far even LE doesn’t have enough to charge her/him or them so I don’t feel like I can.(jmho).
Besides, I thought you said you did not believe that R did it (or C either)? Do you feel differently now?
m2c, Do you feel that the people incarcerated right now have anything to do with Haleighs disappearence? I do, I think 100% on one ,90% on the other and its a 50/50 on the last one.moo
Me, too, looking for justice. What’s in it for them (the potential bond group)? And it’s interesting that they would “test the waters” or whatever they were doing by announcing, anonymously, that they were thinking about it!
LOL! nincompoops! (IMO)
Tobias, unfortunately what I think is not satisfactory to me! 🙂
I want to know!
I said I thought Ron didnt have any direct involvement but that he is involved indirectly as in he knows, his actions led to the events, or he did something that led up to the events that happened. That has always been my opinion.
On Crystal I had the opinion that she was not directly involved and it was possibly someone in her group that did this to help her.imho
m2c you are so hilarious. You make me laugh. LOL!!
This web site has the picture of Ronald with his necklace and earrings.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/1/21/haleighs_dad_former_stepmother_charged_with_trafficking_drugs.html
I just can’t believe that Ron knows what happened, The 911 call makes me think he was panicked and frustrated with what was happening. I guess that statement he made ” How you let my daughter get stole bitch?” makes me think he may have an idea that she was taken and maybe even why, but his anger was real…the shock seemed real too. Misty on the other hand hadn’t practiced the call in her head I guess, cuz’ I got the impression she was more concerned about Rons finding out and how he would react than fear over Haleigh being gone.
Tobis, @ 2:07pm Thank you! I almost remembered it right.
looking for justice: I’m glad! I’m laughing, too, in way. But unfortunately I am absolutely serious about that! lol!
Methinks, you need to go back and listen to all the 911 s in this case and compare them to get the real scope. The 911 from the drug buy is her true self being scared and hurt. But in the 911 for Haleigh she is different.moo
Tobias I have always thought Misty knew. I always felt whatever happened that she was not alone. In the beginning I did not think he knew or had anything to do with it, but as time passed I began to suspect he just might. After Somer Thompson was murdered and the police released what to look for in someone that committed the crime Ron actually fit the description. The bandage on his neck. He never went back to work. He very rarely talked to the media after about a week. I cannot remember what else they said to look for in their behavior. I hope he is not involved in Haleighs disappearance, but right now I am just not completely sure. Tommy has a complete change in behavior and this comes from Chelsea commenting on how Tommy use to be.
I do not know what Crystals behavior was like before Haleigh came up missing, so I cannot comment on that.
Tobias, you are right. The two 911 calls are different. However we could discuss “why” all day long (which I don’t mean to open the door to). Just mentioning that it’s still a matter of “why” are they different? And that’s kind of up to each person to try to figure out/decide or not decide for themselves.
Try to Keep in mind that just recently in Florida was a case solved of a brother and sister. The sister had been missing for years turns out the brother and her had an argument over $20 she slapped him and he pushed her she fell and hit her head for 14 years he kept it a secret it was ruled an accident. I earlier asked asked if the families could hire a private source. I meant Crystal’s family and the grandparents of Haleigh on Ronald’s side. Misty & Ronald could not have a job because no one would hire either of them due to media exposure. Misty had no other knowledge of any other life. Going to jail gives her a chance in life it’s the best thing to happen to her. She will be free in her 20’s at the latest and if she uses the time right she can get an education and help. There are other countries that will accept her in where she can change her name and have a chance there isn’t the media machine like there is in America. A lot of countries these charges would be fines the first time and mandatory rehab the second, and the drug abuse and crimes are far less in those countries. I don’t believe in jailing people for crimes like this. Should this of been a ship full then it would be different I believe in rehabilitating them education and help and lock up the pedophiles instead of letting them out with bracelets on their ankles to live in communities with children. I have to question if there is a shortage of funds for this alleged team of the “best of the best” that Putnam LE has on this case allegedly has. What messages does it send to put a man in a room with a female he has abused. What does that say to her what the system will do for her. Do they allow inmates who are serving time for animal cruelty to look after the security dogs too? There isn’t the funds to speak to a psychologist? It’s almost like they can’t read the writing on the wall. I think they need to find out what happened to Haleigh that night and then find out who did what.JMHO
God bless Haleigh and all her families
Justice, I always felt she knew more also and when ever I brought up the fact that she was involved others would say I always was bashing Ron and Misty. Ron I was not so sure of but I could never get his defending of Misty. When I brought that up I would get accused of bashing.
I always thought TN was the only one that I could say I believed felt the loss, and I still think she feels great pain but I also think some of that pain is because her son is involved. I should also say this is my opinion of this side of the family moo
M2C, that is why I didnt tell methinks my opinion on the 911s just that they are different.moo
Dustyrose, who abused who? Who are you talking about being in the same room? Is it Tommy and Misty? If so you are believing allegations made by Misty, which were probably false and used to get sympathy. These people are what is refered to on the streets as players. And they played on peoples emotions to get away from their crimes.
DustyRose, really interesting, thought-provoking post. One thing you mentioned that I always wonder about – and many of here have wondered about – is how these accused pedophiles can get bail (with and without ankle-monitors) and then get really light sentences or early paroles with totally insufficient supervision.
I know the war on drugs is extremely important but I don’t see how or why crimes against children should be regarded as less offensive or worthy of more lenient penalties? Why is that? If it’s a matter of public opinion, then we need to yell louder to be heard about this. IMO
There also needs to be a different rating on SO some are just indecent exposures(Pee in public) some are 16 and had sex with a willing 13-16, the ones that do the preditory sex offenses in my opinion should never see the outside world. Only the voters can change the laws.moo
Tobias, I agree with your post at 2:55 100%.
And it’s the very reason why it is so hard to get more stringent penalties. Because all those very different kinds of offenses are all lumped together.
Also of the 40 some SO in the area how many were classified as preditors? Just curious as I never really checked on this .moo
I don’t know, Tobias. I don’t remember seeing any info on that. But we’re not supposed to worry about it because LE checked them all out (humph)! Of course that does not include any that may have been in the area without LE knowing.
Where I live I can go online and see who in the area is a SO or preditor and you see the mug shot where they live and what their offense was. More people need to get smart and check these sites and know what is around them and how to protect their children. I for one would like to know if one was near so I would know not to let my child go there. imho
Here is an idea…..no proof though.
What if Ronald IS in on it with LE? What if LE approached Ronald and said that if Misty were facing long hard time, she might say what happened to Haleigh. Ronald, though uneducated, has always come across to me as smart. Smart and determined to get his baby back. Ronald easily could have made sure Misty was at ALL the buys and sells, so she would face the longest time and have to most pressure put on her. Only reason I can think of for the triumpant look on Ronalds face in his mug shot.
Teresa would not be acting like she is if this was the case and Junior would not be with Crystal.imho
Rons expression is there because he is on happy pills. Acid will make you laugh your butt off at anything. Though I have no proof he did acid. Just an opinion.
Usually, I just lurk & read, but something did click in my brain. Just wondering if it occurred to anyone else….. So….
@bonanzajellybean: re 3:05 pm, Ron did say something about keeping enemies close….. hmmmm…..
I sure hope PCSO are still looking for Haleigh. Just because this bunch are allegedly dealing drugs, doesn’t mean they made Haleigh disappear and I’m finding it increasingly hard to believe that Misty was involved, as she is obviously not very clever, and I think LE would have a case against her by now if she was responsible.
If he was the informant LE would not be keeping him in a seperate jail so they would have no contact with each other. I believe the info was said to come from a tip and could have been annonomous(SPELL CHECK). IMHO
Me said, Casey Anthony is not what I would call clever either. Just saying it doesnt take brains to commit crimes it takes brains not to commit crimes. jmo
bjb: I agree totally on your thoughts about Ron, thats why I madea mental note of that remark he made a while back regarding the divorce He said something like “It doesn’t matter why, it’s final, now go find my child” I mentioned it earlier in a post. That statement, though not word for word, except the last line really struck me as odd. As though he he were taking the advice from someone…LE? and then saying “keep your enemies close bla bla bla. and of course, that jewelery wearing, happy mugshot. It makes me wonder. I can’t be sure about what I believe from one day to the next, as this case moves along, it continues to baffle me. Leaving me “befuddled”… theres that word again. Today I’m on NayNay’s letter theory… It just makes sense…but who knows what I’ll believe tommorrow.LOL Man, this crime solvin’ stuff really leaves me exhausted, as well as confused.
MC2
Exactly; higher minimum sentences for crimes against children, domestic violence and animal cruelty, that is often linked. Giving an 18year old 25 years for this does not make sense to me. However drug dealers who are dealing large amounts with a trail of violence behind them that is another story, it’s dependent on the case and the history of the one charged. Should this turn out to be some sort of accident in my opinion Misty should not of been in charge of Haleigh,yet no one deserves this, and especially not Haleigh. I can’t make logic of how Putnam LE thinks attacking Misty giving approval to her brother is suddenly going to make her tell them something if she has something to tell. Given the home she was raised in and the abuse she has endured by her family how do they think that’s going to work? I know people could argue or they could see her as with them were talking about a girl 17-18 yr old that has seen no other world she can be reached. Using the current method they have I don’t see them achieving anything. Why do children from this life do the same and protect their family is a lot like asking why a kidnapping victim after years of being held captive no longer has to have the door locked on them. I don’t think Putnam LE has the best of the best I think they are bluffing and full of BS
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
Also, regarding the “letter theory”‘ angle, why would NayNay say that unless it were true, unless the investigators told her that to catch a reaction from her. I just don’t know what to think anymore. so many questons,not enough answers.
I think what ever happened it happened right before Ron left for work and he called at 8:30 to find out how she was, then the other phone calls were frantic attempts to reach a scared Misty. Then he calls Tommy to go over and help Misty. He got them all involved or he would tell LE about the drugs and everything.And hey he was at work he could say Misty did it. jmo
And the fact that Ron PASSED a polygraph??????
Tobias…I think you missed my point. Casey was charged and is going to trial. It’s been a year and Misty has not been charged. You don’t have to be clever to commit a crime, but if she’s responsible, she’s outfoxed LE & the FBI for a year now, and I find that increasingly hard to believe. Casey didn’t outsmart anyone…though she tried.
He made sure he was at work early, he made sure everyone saw him at work in the cafetria,he made sure there were phone pings from work, and he stopped to buy beer so he would be on video at the store at that time.
jmo
Unless you were there with Ron Tobias, you have nothing to say any of this happened.
LE was not outsmarted they have always said she was the key. They just needed more evidence for a conviction and I am sure after the CA case they wanted it to be iron clad.moo
I said it was a theory .
and the fact that Ron passed a polygraph?
Tobias…anyone can say “Misty is the key”…means nothing. No one has been CHARGED. If they had evidence she was the key, they would have charged her. She didn’t exercise her right to silence, gave hours of interviews, and if they had anything to take to a grand jury, they would have done so. LE can say what they want. Actions speak louder than words.
Can someone please post when the radio show is starting?! I’m not in america and not sure of your time zones etc. TIA!
ooops,,,,ignore previous post…i’m listening to the show now
Dustyrose: You really said a mouth full when you brought up the handling of SO’s. Look at the JC Dugard case, this is a perfect example of what your talking about. LE and the parol office not only dropped the ball, they didn’t even know there was a ball in the air. Yesterday, someone posted about an SO living about 400 feet from Ron’s trailer. If this is true, I wonder ho moved in first, Ron or the SO. I think a landlord should be responsible for notifying a potential renter of any SO’s nearby. Florida seems to overlook alot of sex crimes. How can they say statutory rape is against the law and then turn around and allow a 17 year old girl marry her 26 year old boyfriend as long as she gets her parents to sign a permission slip? It’s double standard. Ron is a sex offender to be sure, and I think he should be held accountable for his behavior. Preditors who molest small children should never be allowed to roam the streets at all.PERIOD. The problem is deciding where to draw the line. they certainly need to address the problem. I hate to stereotype people, but this is why they use the term inbred when refering to “hillbillies” another word I hate. I’m not trying to badmouth the state of florida, as I was born in fla., but I must say, I’m glad I was raised in minnesota. The problem is everywhere, but I can tell you that Ronald Cummings would have been prosecuted for 3 counts of stagitory rape here. The cops might overlook it, but most parents wouldn’t stand for it. It would have ended long before the dating ever got started.
methinks: That’s right. And as a society we assume safeguards are in place. First, parents, then schools, DCFS, and LE. But ALL of them failed to do anything about this not once but SEVERAL times (with the same guy-Ron).
Why is that? Does that community get to decide what laws are followed and what aren’t? Is there some allowance made for certain ways of life in certain places? Or is it that just no one or no one of any importance there cared? I have never understood that.
Simon, Jan, TJ, Denny and Levi!
GREAT RADIO PROGRAM! Thank you SO much and TJ and Denny you gave me a great deal of comfort about a lot of my worries. So thank you for that, too.
I must say Tobias makes alot of sense. Ron made himself seen. All the while Mistys phone is turned off; not even sending any pings to where she could be located.
methinks:
You’ve said a mouthfull…..but be carefull. Any mention of Ron doing time for his indiscretions with minors will chum the waters….some will insist that it’s ok since no one reported it to LE or since the female’s parents didn’t intervene. Or if not “OK” then just SOMEONE else’s fault.
THere are 2 PREDATORS within the 5 mile radius. The guy with the K…name & 1 other in Palatka. Not too far from 202 Green…as a matter of fact….almost exactly, just across the St John’s River.
IMO Ron is NOT the “inside man” on this case. Why would LE need him to “tag” Misty & Co? Nope, he’s a drug dealin junkie and that’s that. IMO IMO IMO, of course.
Well, actually, someone would have to accuse him and bring charges against him. I have not heard that anyone did. I don’t think Ron or any other man involved with an underage girl would call LE and bring charges against himself! lol! So, yes, SOMEONE needed to do something and apparently NO ONE did.
Anyone know if Annette gave a description of what Haleigh was wearing when she last saw her on the porch?
If so, does it match what Misty said she was wearing?
Butterbean, the youngest witness. He said a man took Haleigh, and further described the color of clothes the man wore, and the sound his shoes made (squeaky).
WET shoes are squeaky.
Police officers regularly replace their dark shoes for new ones, they do not wear well worn shoes, just like our military.
When my brother wore his military ‘dress’ shoes, they squeaked.
What do you think, Holly’s Gmom, anyone?
During today’s show someone called in (Does anyone else think it sounded like Cobra with a buzz on? LOL?) citing the 5th amendment(wrong) in regards to Misty’s bail, He said:
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
1)That’s the 8th amendment
2)I wonder what a reasonable bail is for someone without a job? Get out of jail free? NOT!
I don’t know what the law is regarding criteria for bail, although I agree with the panel, the state and the judge are surely acting within the boundries of the law….and her lawyer will no doubt be requesting a lower bail.
IMO the reason for Misty’s bail being set so high is not just the charges she faces (although the possible mandatory sentences surely factors in) but the perceived risk of her fleeing. She has moved from the area several times in the recent months without her own resources, and has no ties such as a home or job to give her incentive to appear in court.
Sound of squeaky shoes, more likely on a non-carpeted floor, right?
Kitchen floor not carpeted? How about the bathrooms?
‘EyesforLies’ stated on her blog months ago
that she viewed an interview of Misty, and
detected a micro-expression of strong disgust on Misty’s face when she spoke of going into the kitchen after seeing the light on.
Her thought was that Misty SAW SOMETHING that greatly disgusted her when she walked into the kitchen.
If ‘Eyes’ is right, as she more often than not is, what totally disgusting sight did Misty see when she walked into the kitchen?
Did Misty say she saw the open back door from the kitchen?
If so, seems that in itself doesn’t explain a micr-expression of disgust. Surprise at the door being open, then concern, fear, but I wouldn’t think disgust unless their was something truly disgusting that she saw in the kitchen.
What could she have seen in the kitchen?
Katfish, it seems the bond amount for a single count is fairly consistent for each of the five, but for each successive count, the base amounts is incremented.
Squeaky shoes worn by nurses, too. A paternal relative who works as a nurse went by the home with Annette that night, right?
Or, is it just a rumor that the nurse was there with Annette?
If it is true, why haven’t we heard about what she observed?
Camera shy?
If she was there, I would like to know whether she has told what she recalls, such as what Haleigh was wearing.
Hi everyone, hope everyone is doing well.
Trying to catch up a little. Haven’t listened to the show yet, but I will. Probably at work tomorrow.
I’d really like to get some opinions on this.
I am so dumbfounded about Ron’s mugshot. I just can’t seem to get past it. It’s inappropriate any way you look at it to be grinning like that while your child is missing. Personally I never thought Ron had anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. I know he has done a lot of inappropriate things during this mess, but I swear, he looks like he knows something that no one else knows. Why is that? I know he’s cocky & arrogant, but this is different.
I’d love to think Haleigh has been found safe and Ron knows it, but surely that can’t be. I don’t feel that in my heart.That would be the only reason I could find that to be appropriate behavior.
Maybe I’m just thinking about it too hard. I’m thinking like a normal rational person. I need to understand the players in this are not normal and rational people.
Seriously, what do the rest of you think about this mug shot?
I’m so glad these losers weren’t bonded out. I hope that doesn’t happen. I woke up in a good mood Friday, but after I heard it was possible those 2 would be bonded out, I was upset all day. This should not be affecting my personal life this way, but it is. I was furious!
Stormgardner,
Can’t figure that one either, but wonder if it is a family thing, as the fellow in this booking picture looks like he may be a relative of Ron’s, as he sure does resemble him well, and he appears ready to burst out laughing!
Look:
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753449&IMG=58335
Might be the person taking the photo was joking with him, or maybe ron has too much in common with Drew Peterson?
New jail interview with Ronald Cummings is here:
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-01-24/story/jailhouse_interview_ronald_cummings_talks_about_arrest
Jason- thanks for the response. I had to step away so I just saw your reply.
I understand what you are saying about the charges increasing relative to the number of charges and agree the math adds up.
Misty Croslin is facing six counts of trafficking in prescription medications. Three counts of the same charge are pending against Cummings and one against Hank Croslin Jr., Sykes and Brock, according to the Sheriff’s Office.
Misty Croslin is being held in lieu of $950,000 bail; Cummings, $500,000; Brock, $250,000; Sykes, $150,000; and Hank Croslin Jr., $100,000.
Something that confuses me yet is Donna Brock’s bail. As far as I know, Brock has no priors whereas Sykes and Hank Jr each have at least a handful, yet her her bail is significantly higher and all 3 face 1 count.
Any thoughts? Anyone?
I agree, Katfish, about Donna Brock’s bond being comparatively higher.
Her one count @ $250K would be 1.5 million for 6 counts, and that’s with no incrementing.
I’m not aware of any previous charges she may have.
I think Brock’s is higher than Tommy’s and Hope’s because she was caught with more drugs. It’s one count, but the amount is larger.
ATTENTION, Calling Holly’s Gmom,
When you get back here, please tell whether it was RAINING in Satsuma the night Haleigh went missing.
Witness Butterbean says the man who took Haleigh had squeaky shoes.
Wet shoes, nurses shoes, barely worn police/military shoes, new sneakers are possible.
Thanks, Whiskey. Makes sense.
You are welcome. =)
I think it is based on what kind of pills she had too. Roxies vs Loritab, for example.
wHISKEY mIKE:
Good Call!
Jason: Per Weather Underground for Satusma it had not rained since Feb2 into 3rd. Did not rain again until Feb 14 (very very little, then rained again 18th into 20th
Jason: I see what you are saying about the shoes…New dress type shoes….
I thought the couch squeaked….I guess that could have been twisted rumor mongering.
What else would make a squeeking sound?
What could have been the disgusting site in kitchen….Oh boy….we don’t even want to go there….
PS…I’m very interested in the Micro-Expressions issue!
That particular night was also the first night to reach 40 degrees and rising since Feb 2 2009.
Low wind gusts from 6th -11th
I saw that expression on Misty’s face during the hypnosis session. while she was being put under he told her to imagine sitting on a park bench relaxed holding a remote (like a tv remote) he told her to push the on button, this would open a big window she will see three doors, as soon as he mentioned the doors, I saw the look. She appeared afraid or confused about the doors… If I knew how to post a link, I would post it here. check it out.
Also, squeaky shoes…someones feet get wet docking the row boat after crossing the river? Isn’t there an SO living directly across the river? just a curious thought.
Holly’s Gmom, methinks,
‘Eyes for lies’ wrote that she suspects a microexpression of disgust when Misty says, “I seen the kitchen light on.”
Here’s her take on it, along with link to the video:
http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/02/misty-croslins-shows-disgust.html
They should be thankful for Cobra,he was trying to do what no one else would…I never saw the family even look for Haleigh…..Cobra didn’t leave b/c he wanted too,He had too!
Look what they did to him!
If L.E. had the goods, this sting would have never went down. The fact, that it was done with prescription meds that carry mandatory sentences instead of a pound of pot speaks volumes. I for one think it’s dirty how law enforcement works. The vast majority of you have probably never had a trumped up charge leveled against you and when this does happen it is an abuse of power. These are NOT trumped up charges against all these kids but they are excessive bonds. They did the same thing with Misty’s Mother.
No body, no real evidence so this is what law enforcement is reduced to. This case is done, put a fork in it.
Stormgardner,
IMO I think it say’s “Haha you still aint got nothing and won’t” sarcastic smirk!
Sheesh Random,let’s hope not For Haleigh’s sake!!
I agree. LE have nothing in Haleighs case. I am very happy about the charges. I hope they all do the minimum 25 years (for Haleigh too-at the least they were all negligent).
LE are never going to get an accurate account of what happened a year ago. Does everyone understand that the drugs this bunch was taking at the time and since effects the memory???? How can ANY of them be belived as to what really happened? Can you imagine the trial??? I can…with NO convictions, as NONE of them are credible witnesses. We will never find the truth, and may never find haleigh, but these drug traffikers will be off the streets, never to procreate and sell drugs again. Now THATS justice.
Random thoughts: I don’t care what they do to extract the information…as long as it leads us to Haleigh. These people made their beds. They are adults. Crack open the hornets nest, I wanna’ hear some buzzing.
Jason,there is a creek behind the trailer they lived in.The land is also low.so you might have figured out the squeeky shoes.I also think what ever happened to Haleigh,that Ron and Misty both know and yea, that’s probably why he called her around 8:30 and no I do not believe he remained at work the whole shift,and yes I do think he staged his appearances at work on break and then again supposedly after leaving work stopped at the store only to be seen again.I do believe LE pretty much knows what happened and also perhaps they suspect that he was not at work the whole time frame he claims.
Methinks,
All we will get from this bunch is a lot of saw dust.
git-r-dun..
I think they were smokin’ saw dust…
Haleigh deserves to live. If thats not gonna’ happen, then she deserves a proper burial. with flowers and a coffin with pretty pink satin lining or a beautiful golden urn. She deserves music and a prayer said just for her. She deserves to have her life celebrated. She deserves to be remembered. We can’t stop trying.
CathyJoe63,I agree.Cobra does deserve at the least, a thank you.He honestly tried and he did try to do what he could,but then of course he ended up with charges against him.
MeThink’s,just go to the page you want to copy link from,put your cursor on the address bar,left click then right click,then left click on copy in the menu box that comes down,then go here or wherever you wanna paste it and just left click and right click on paste…walaaa! May take a lil practice but if i can do it anybody can….LoL
Exactly Listening,I’d just be grateful one other person was trying!I mean it’s not easy for a grown man to get on national tv and cry but he did!That’s how bad he was treated for simply trying to help!!
methinks,you’re positively right.I pray daily for her safe return,but in the event that it turns out not to be the case she deserves to always be remembered and to have the most beautiful and peaceful memorial and to be never forgottenI know I will never forget,but I’m still praying for her safe return.It could still be possible.
Cathyjo63: Thanks for the directions, I’ve alway been too embarrassed to ask. wow can’t wait to try it.
Random,Now you got that one right on the nail!
Everybody’s talking about their right’s,They’re grown people with the knowledge of right and wrong but they still chose to go down the wrong path.
Heck Haleigh has/had a right too,to live and be happy at home,not walk on eggshell’s around a bunch of druggie’s and used as a pawn no doubt!
And if she’s no longer with us,she deserves what every other child does,to be grieved over and missed and put to rest and a really nice burial etc…..and JUSTICE! but not one of these fool’s has a bit of concern for her,just their next high!!
cathyjo63: Amen!
You’re very welcome!!!
Anytime you need me to help,holler!Don’t mind one bit! I started out not knowing either! Terrified of a computer…LoL Now it’s alot easier….don’t be ashamed..Betcha there’s not one person who knew it before they asked,LoL
you know the jail interview that Ron gave sickens me.All he basicly did was complain about his inconvenience and state that it is because Haliegh’s case is still open and it caused him to be a target.He certainly isn’t thinking about her or what ever happened to her.He made no remark or apology to his family,or even to say to Haliegh or Little J.R.Daddy loves you,or ask for LE or anyone to keep searching for Haliegh,He called the newspaper to give a press release,why not use a couple seconds to plead for the safe return of Haleigh,his beloved baby girl that is and has been missing for a whole year in a couple more weeks.It’ sickening.He only called them to complain about his accomadations in jail,and to say because Haliegh’s case is still open,that makes him a target.He better get used to a jail cell,because I believe he’ll be there for awhile and well deserves to be in my opinion.
Listening: I agree, What a selfish bast#$%^…I lost all my compassion for this man.
methinks,just maybe you may be right about the boat.Maybe that’s how Haliegh could have been taken from her home.Back when that pond was being pumped out,someone said you could actually go to that area from the creek,river or whatever type of waterway there is behind the trailer they lived in,in about 10 minutes,but by vehicle it would take about 40-45 minutes.They also said there is a fish camp a short ways from where they lived.That may explain the squeeky shoes.
Jason;
Whoa! I just used that same site for my forensic forum example of Micro-Facial Expressions…..Coool!!!
ROn, NOT begging for his daughter to be returned at this point just tells me something. Of course it’s JMO, but to me…he might as well have said “Haleigh’s never comming back, I know this, poor me”
Haliegh may not have been taken from the residence by a vehicle,she very well could have been taken from the residence by a boat.That may explain the squeeky shoes.I just found out that not only does the creek lead to the area where the ponds are ,but it actually joins a large inland waterway.I’ll have to check that out to see where the water way may possibly lead to.It’s possible that if something did go very wrong,just maybe that’s how Haleigh was removed without being seen,but I wonder who could have had access to a boat?Maybe one was used from the fish camp.Just a thought.Don’t know.Interesting though.
Been a lurker for some time but I have to make a couple of comments. Junior hearing ‘squeaky shoes’ could have been Misty or Tommy coming ‘back’ from the pond/creek with wet shoes. On the discussion about Ron being an informant — it struck me funny that this ‘smart’ man sitting in jail says ‘I’m going to prison’ – admission of guilt? Or is he trying to convince someone else? Just sayin.
Jason, that cracked me up.
They sure could be related. Sorry I missed that last night. I needed a laugh. I’m going to crack up the rest of the day about that one.
You’re pretty witty. Lol
Listening,AMEN! complaining about his right’s,a shower,he’s the only one who isn’t at the Holiday Inn…..little spoiled brat!Dear Lord what’s wrong with that man?
Besides stupidity?
I would have begged the media,please help me find Haleigh so I can atleast know if she’s ok,since I can’t go anywhere,even if he could he wouldn’t,He’d call looking for Misty yea, but never saw him one time look for his daughter!
I know I am going to prison?? Well gee do ya reckon Ronald!
Is he an only child?I have never heard,have yall? It’s alway’s about him,I mean my daughter
is an only child ,She’s 30 now and yea got all the intention and she still demand’s it….Nothing wrong with that,That’s our fault.LoL But if she does wrong she’ll get attention and alot of it,Not good attention either,I’d make her face the music! Teresa now blames Misty cause he’s into drug’s…go CINDY the 2nd! TN should watch all the clip’s of cindy and she’d know what NOT to do!
Holly’s,I love that eye’s for lie’s site,very interesting!
Yall got me wondering about a boat now &
The Squeaky shoes Jr.mentioned but I wonder too about the couch bouncing,which fit’s my theory from the start that the “Man in black” could be to a child a “black man”,maybe Haleigh and Jr. caught them but Haleigh was old enough to tell the whole story! Jr.wasn’t, but I thought the whole time Ron knew more but withheld it but now that IMO…. I think he was involved since day 1 so it kinda blow’s my original theory out!
Did you guy’s notice too that on his one plea for Haleigh interview where he is obviously fake crying he said,I want my child back,I want my child back please,I want my CHILD’S “LIFE” BACK” How’d he know she didn’t have a life and another just after he fall’s to the ground he is holding his cell phone and it’s ringing,OK…Who wouldn’t answer that phone no matter where you were at the time if your child is really kidnapped!!
You’re right Cathy Joe63 ,I would think most people would have answered their phone,unless of course they have caller ID and didn’t want to talk to the caller at that moment for whatever reason.I just hope all these charges will frighten anyone of these drug takers and pushers,if they do know anything,to tell what they know,or even if they suspect they know what happened, just talk and allow LE to investigate.Maybe I’m wrong,but I believe there is at least one other person that became involved after the fact assisting to get rid of evidence and maybe drugs that could have been at the trailer before reporting Haleigh missing.
After watching TN, I think she and the rest of the family are resigned that Haleigh is dead, and that something unintentional happened that Misty, who was doing drugs for days before the incident, just does not remember. NG is right, try Misty on all charges, get a conviction of over 100 years total, let her sit in prison for a year or two to dry out and remember what happened that night, then offer a deal on manslaughter and reduce the drug sentence.
I think Ron was working with the police and set Misty up with this drug sting. The police probably told him they believed Misty was the key, she wouldn’t talk and if she was arrested for drugs and facing serious time, maybe that would crack her silence. Ron is WAY TOO HAPPY in his mug shot. When will Ron be arrested for statutory rape? He was living with Misty when she was 16, and he was 25. I believe that Misty may know something, but Ron is the one who got her into all this. Why wasn’t his mother or grandmother babysitting Haleigh? Ron knew Misty was a drug addict and he left his kids in her care? What a guy!!!!! He set Misty up for this drug bust.
You are right on Me,about that one,and I hope you are correct because I have alway’s wondered why would cs or R leave a child in her care,on drug’s and everybody knew about wbp,i mean it didn’t take a genius to see she wasn’t capable of taking care of them when r was working,she’s yound and he worked alot i take it so i don’t get that part,why not leave them with tn? did you all see the message cs sent to rom……..just stuck her tongue out childishly?
No CathyJo, I didn’t see the message cs sent ron. How did she send him a message? Quite sad.
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