My hats off to Jan,Simon and the gang for keeping Haleigh in the news. Their passion is obvious. If their efforts help to find one missing child pays off then I say its worth the farm.

Thank you Jan and Simon, for keeping us updated on Haleigh Cummings, as well as other missing children. Thank you to the program panelist, TJ, Denny and Levi, as well! All of your efforts, in keeping us informed of news on missing children, and continuously keeping their names in the media, is very much appreciated!

I am looking forward to the show on Sunday!

A Florida story we may have missed from yesterday and its’ follow-up…
Palatka boy stabbed to death, police officer slashed in face. An 8-year-old Palatka boy was stabbed to death and a Palatka police officer wounded during an attack Tuesday night in the city, police said.

Assistant Police Chief James Griffith said he’s unsure what caused the stabbing that left little Dayquone Hill dead and Officer Todd Bryant with a cut on his cheek. Police charged Zachariah Williams, 22, of Palatka with murder and aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, Griffith said.

Palatka child stabbing suspect had 28 prior arrests. At 22, the man accused in Tuesday’s stabbing death of an 8-year-old Palatka boy has a criminal past stretching back nearly 10 years.

Florida Department of Law Enforcement records show he’s had 28 arrests, including 10 probation violations.

“He’s an extremely volatile individual who has been involved in a lot of crime,” said Assistant Chief James Griffith of the Palatka Police Department.

On Tuesday, police said Zachariah Tochshema Williams, whose age was initially listed as 20 by authorities, fatally stabbed Dayquone Hill inside a Palatka apartment.

Williams and Dayquone’s mother were boyfriend and girlfriend, Griffith said.

Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 09:53 AM

Makes you wonder where was child services and why was this guy out on the streets? I wonder where was he from March until he was booked into Putnam county on Jan. 2010? I sure hope he was in a jail somewhere and not walking the streets? Does anyone know? Maybe the poor 8 year old would be alive if he would have been locked up and serving a sentence for his other multitude of offences?jmo

It’s the low bond amounts too, Tobias. I have never seen such low bond amounts in my life. I wonder who sets bond amounts for the county?

Usually there is a bond or bail hearing before a judge ,who sets the bond or bail. Then you are bonded out by a person or bailbond company.
It seems to work real fast down there. I would assume some offences may have set bonds? jmo

Here in San Diego we have our missing child Amber Dubois. I have been on searches for Amber, and have talked at length with Amber’s mom, and Marc Klass. The famlies of missing children need to have closure, whether it be the best case or the worse case scenario. They need to know that LE is doing everything they can everyday to find their child. Public support is very important. The families want to public to aways be on the lookout for their child. To know that, though they cannot search every square inch of the world, others will keep their eyes open to find their missing child. It brings comfort and relief to the families. Jan and Simon-Thanks for doing this.

Bonanza, Dont forget Hasanni Campbell is in the area close to you too. He was reported missing in August in Oakland California by his aunt(fostermother) and her boyfriend. They were arrested then released and have made no effort to help find this little boy since.jmo

My understanding is the foster parents were arrested in the disappearence of Hasanni Campbell. We in Soutern California don’t really hear much about this story, as it happened in Northern California—which might as well be a separate state. The internet is great for keeping up with stories from around the world, but people tend to focus on those things that happen locally.

Tobias,
If they start charging the worthless parent that put the child’s life in danger with a worthless live in,maybe some will start to think.Otherwise,they’ll keep having kids from different people and endangering thier children,because sex is more important to them.

I find it hard to believe that this lowlife didn’t show signs of violence before he killed this child and she didn’t know anything about his criminal history.It keeps happening and the child is the victim.What a worthless woman,she just as well killed that child by her choices.

I hope on Sunday the panel clarifys why Lisa was charged with battery in Aug. and we are just now finding it out. I thought florida had a law (sunshine law) that all arrests would be posted for public acsess? Tommy had a restraining order on him and Ron had a battery charge from Tommy but I never saw a report or arrest for Lisa in that incident. And now there is something going on to hide the court records for this battery charge and the court actions on Jan.14 2010. Why? jmo

WinterRose, the g/f did know about his problems and tried to get him admitted into a psych hospital a day or two before he killed her son, but they were turned away.

iirc, he was hallucinating that she was Cleopatra and all kinds of other crazy stuff. Sounded like he might have schizophrenia, but I don’t know.

Just to clearify for th record I did not live in Satsuma. When living in th area I stayed in St. Agustine FL not far from it, but I believe it’s St. Johns county. But I did help a friend set up and open a sales room in Satsuma. During th Haliegh Disspearance.

So LF ur right but wrong….and nothing ever works out in Satsuma. Lol

I can’t understand why anyone would stay there in that county, much less raise their children there. If Timmy and his wife can get out of there, others can. How did it get so bad, there?

stormgardner, so glad to hear from you!! Sorry you have been under the weather, hope you are better now. We have missed you but you have done the best thing that can be done for Haleigh and her family. Praying for her is priceless!!!

Gosh almost a whole year still no haleigh or adji that is devastating and heartbreaking i wish we knew the truth about what happened to these kids my heart goes out to them still praying to will pray till we find them and after i pray they are still alive such beautiful children

I really cannot believe the amount of paid bloggers, and people who only want to play a game like Devils Advocate, come into forums just to troll and play games. It’s a sad state of affairs. Going back to the beginning in this case, and knowing that LE is working this case, and that its in no way a cold case, is reassuring. I think that RC’s continued efforts and attempts to distance himself from his own child, and the “scene of the crime” in this case, speak for him quite well.

“I was at work” Someone stole my baby, a SO has my baby. How’d you let my baby get stole B. Please look for my baby. I don’t know what she was wearing (whining here as he did on the 911 call)
the repeated references to someone breaking in that trailer when in fact it’s obvious that didn’t happen. The effort on camera to say someone who could “pick locks” did this. Cleaning up the trailer to let in media, no pillow cases on any pillow in the home. No seperate sleeping quarters for the children (imo that right there is a HUGE warning bell to ME) No timeline as to what really happened after Haleigh came home from school that day…Oh yes, the Gun….and RC’s repeated rageful incidents, chasing people in cars (heard his engine revving past TJ that night you could hear the pedal to the metal) the fury and anger on the 911 call instead of outright FEAR.
The repeated attempts to sit on the lawn holding his childs picture, “look for her, she is missing!”

I’m sorry, I never believed a word that spewed from his mouth. Not word one.
Anger, his displaced anger is what repeatedly has set my meter on over drive. When a tragedy happens believe me, anger is months and months down the line, it’s not the first and foremost emotion one would show. But it would be if someone was trying to mislead an investigation, and the public.

Those who can not see past RC and MC’s antics, I’m sorry for you. Those who are being paid to come in to boards and troll or just plain play a game, with this childs life or death, shame on you. She went dead and or “missing” on RC’s watch. Whether he was at work, or not, he is responsible for the position he put this child in, iow he is responsible, and instead of showing shame and horror at his decisions, he MARRIES the person who knows the truth. Why?
Most likely because he was trying to silence her using fear and intimidation, nothing new here folks.

When reveiwing the HC case there is one image that sticks in my mind that rings so false I could spit: And it’s the image of RC rocking back and forth holding this precious babies photo, in front of the cameras and it’s forced “grieving” and did not ring true with me. IMO, only RC and MC are responsible for this lovely child. They have failed her. And they will not, admit it. Instead, they are doing everything to attempt to stay out of prison, for whatever happened. They are doing everything to “distance” themselves from that day/night, even going so far as to LEAVE and MOVE, and there is no home for HC to return to. This also says to me, IMO that they KNOW she will NEVER
be coming back.

Like Joshua Powell. Like so many others. When a perp moves after an incident, to me it says one thing: I cannot live with what happened here, every room is a reminder, I see her every where, I know she is gone, I know what happened, I cannot live here.
I have to leave (they are only thinking of themselves here)

Any parent, waiting on the safe return of their child, would dig deep to get through that, and stay put, hoping one day hoping against all odds. But these two, they moved. They ate out on the town. They MARRIED. They took trips to NY and tats to memorialize Haleigh. And you usually only do that when you know someone is dead. Not coming back ever.
THAT is what a memorial tattoo is, Ronald. It’s to REMEMBER someone by. Someone you will NEVER see again.

It’s my firm opinion that RC and MC know exactly what happened to this precious gift from Crystal. They know, and they will do and say anything to mislead the public on a wild goose chase.

There is NO statute of Limitations on Murder. There is plenty of time, to watch their antics, and keep them under the watchful eye of LE. Plenty of time, for charges in her death. And I do think she is dead. When people say let’s bring her home, HC does not have a home to come back TO. When someone is dead, they do not “come back home” they are buried, and given a memorial. What is RC’s intention?
Wait 7 years, have her declared dead then cash in on her life insurance policy? Did he have one on Haleigh? TJ maybe you can look into this for all of us. Because we would ALL like to know the answer to that.
Bug

I want to know how Lisa got charged with battery on the Aug. incident when Tommy was charged with it? We all saw the incident report and it clearly states Tommy and now there was a court docket on Jan.14 for Lisa as the deffendant for Mistys battery????????? jmo

Bugout,
I agree there have been trolls out there, people who are making money off of blogging-I am not sure what you mean. Do people get paid for blogging Haleigh or talking about her? If so, I see that as profit off of tragedy—the worst kind of people.

I have always interpreted Ronald Cummings actions as true grief and fear for his daughter, as well as confusion as to what happened to her. For some people, anger and temper IS their emotion of fear and confusion. I have seen him after Haleigh went missig, and on interviews, and he has to me come across as credible–a good father who took good care of his kids. His alibi is tight. He passed a polygraph. However, I have always said that EVERYONE is suspect until Haleigh is found and the case solved.

It is natural to blame the parents when a child goes missig. It is denial—like saying “this could never happen to MY child because I am not like THEM, I am a GOOD parent”. It does happen to good parents. It happened to Marc Klass, Brenda and Damon Van Dam, Charles Lindberg, etc. It happens, and the only ones we can blame are the perpetrators. In this case, there is not enough evidence to point to anyone, so to conclude that someone did it, in my view, is narrow, and is hindering LE (Misty hold the key) from making any progress on the case.

This is or will fast become a cold case. The year make is approaching. There are no solid leads….everyone is just guessing LE has some. I have seen no progress in the investigation. I do not have the attitude of “trust LE competence” Sorry, I cant do that. I have seen enough cases to know some in LE are morons.

BugOut,

That was a really well written post. And I’m glad to read how you feel, but I have two questions. 1. How do you feel about Crystal’s tattoo that she got around the same time? And 2. How is one suppose to act when their child goes missing? (There is NO handbook)

There’s a couple of things you post about what Ronald Cummings has done, or did after Haleigh went missing. The trip to NY was to get his daughers name out there, and if I were asked to go, to get NATIONAL MEDIA EXPOSURE if my daughter were missing, I’d probably go too. Would you? I see others getting on the morning shows in these cases, and I’m assuming they needed to fly to NY. Is it ok for them to do this or does it make them look guilty of something too?

If he married her for fear and intimidation, how in the world did he just let her walk right out and divorce her? Wouldn’t he still be worried about her telling something? Is he STILL holding her in fear? I can’t see it.

Until Ronald Cummings tells us, HIMSELF why he married Misty, I don’t think we will EVER know the full truth. I know what I’ve been told, but the answer isn’t “good enough” for some.
Believe it or not, the PI HIMSELF, hired by the Sheffield side of the family told us months and months ago.

Bunny, I only disagree with your last sentence.
Cobra was not hired by any of the Sheffields. He was hired by an unknown benefactor out of Miami and I know for a fact that a preacher asked him in the beginning to help find her.
Kim P. was brought in as pro bono(not paid) help that means she was not hired by anyone.
Art Harris was paid by Cobra $5000 to do audio and video while Cobra investigated. I just dont want anyone to start rumours about why Cobra was there, he has always said it was all about Haleigh and no one else. imho

True that Tobias. In the beginning. And yes, he always always said he was there for HALEIGH CUMMINGS. But what about the check for a dollar or whatever it was that Ruby Kanger wrote to retain him?

Paid bloggers? Where do I sign up??

“Information” does not make a solid lead. Noticed the way LE made the announcement. They did not state they have “leads” in the case. New information means something to check up on, leads mean something that has checked out to be true, and is “LEADING” LE in a particular direction.

And Tobias, my friend, I promise you, I would not do anything in this world to start or help fuel a rumor. I am asking above in sincerity. I was thinking later, after Reverend Grund and the unknown benefactor. Later, as in maybe April? Ohmygod this has gone on so long, it’s almost if you don’t have your notes in front of you, well…you get it. THIS HAS TAKEN WAYYY TOO LONG. 🙂

Only life insurance policies I’ve ever heard about, rumors, is Crystal had policies on the kids.

Tobias said,
in January 17th, 2010 at 12:20 pm

I want to know how Lisa got charged with battery on the Aug. incident when Tommy was charged with it? We all saw the incident report and it clearly states Tommy and now there was a court docket on Jan.14 for Lisa as the deffendant for Mistys battery????????? jmo
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Tobias, Tommy was never charged with anything from that night as nothing has ever been put on the court records. Misty and Mrs. Sykes did to go PCSO and file reports but outside of that I have no idea why the courts waited 5 mos. to post that about Lisa.

Well I have my theory and I am still open to looking into other peoples ideas. I do believe this will get solved but it will take time. I
do not believe the parents are involved and if they were it would be indirectly by just being aquantances with who did this.I am more under the belief that she is dead but would like it not to be true also. imho

I doubt it Tobias because it specifically says PCSO and Aug 5th. I still would like to know whY it was never put online till 5 months later and if Lisa was charged was Hank and Tommy charged and if so why it hasn’t been put online after 5 months. Just weird.

I wish there was enough evidence and information out in the public forum for me to formulate a theory. I just dont see a whole lot there.

I hope I am wrong, and this case does get solved. I have just seen too many high profile cases that, after years, still remain unsolved. The common denominator is what comes out of LE—-declaring suspects soon after the disappearence, then never finding evidence that would convict these suspects—- instead of finding the evidence first, then using the evidence to convict a suspect. LE sometimes does things backwards, and I have seen it lead to unsolved cases. And, unfortunately, I have seen this happen in this case.

Oh, yes! My link expert and internet extrordinaire found the links about Sheffields/Cobra. Well, Ruby Kanger to be exact, and it was much later Tobias, from when Cobra orginally came in.

I don’t know if I can post the link, but Jan can hit me on the head if I’m not suppose to. 🙂

http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/mobile/2009-09-03/news/the-hunt-for-haleigh-cummings-could-bring-down-a-badass-bounty-hunter/15

What I see is uncooperative people not coming forward out of fear, mistrust of PCSO, and some people leading them on goose chases. Remember who the people they are dealing with are not really credible witnesses or just to involved in their own criminal behavior to care. If you snitch you pay in their worlds.Look what happened to the boy who was set on fire, that is their world sad as it is. jmho

That is a good point. There is a lack of credible witnesses. If this case did go to trial, who in the world would a jury believe?

I hope they pressure Lisa and Hank to see if they know anything. When you are 40 years old 10 years in prison can be a life sentence, just saying. jmho

sure wasn’t much on about Haleigh.

Just for your reading pleasure who disputed the fact about Prescription pills being Monitored in Fl..

http://www.irontontribune.com/news/2009/apr/09/pill-mills-florida-county-has-become-colombia-phar/

http://www.wsvn.com/features/articles/carmelcase/MI103388/

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/65517.html

Incredibly, Florida has no law to track the prescriptions written, so it is possible for someone to go to multiple clinics the same day and fill one prescription after another.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-29/pill-mill-capital-cracks-down/

Drug-seekers travel hundreds of miles from Kentucky, Ohio, West Virginia, Tennessee and elsewhere — not for sun and surf, but the allure of easy-to-get prescription drugs and the anonymity accorded them in these typically cash-and-carry transactions

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/os-ed-pill-mills-010610,0,5300416.story

I could go on and on as there are hundred if not thousands of these places but i won’t..

It is only within the last year have they been trying to “change things”…However it still doesn’t stop Ma and Pop Pharmacies of filling these prescriptions…Plus they can charge more. So its a win/win situation for all involved Druggies, Dr’s and Pharmacies..

Haven’t listened yet, but I’m about to.

Thanks Jan. Simon, Denny, TJ, & Armando! Very good show!!! Very informative. I also want to give a shout out to the people who called in.

Good question Peggy, glad you were able to get through this week! That was something that had not occured to me (Whether a crime scene would be processed differently depending upon whether the victim was believed to be alive when last there or deceased)

To the caller who gave the info about chronic pain mamgement: THANK YOU! I have tried to tell people for months now that those Fentanyl pops would be VERY enticing to a child by thier sweetness. Also thank you for clearing up the difference between Oxies & Roxies. Makes a lot of sense. I, personally, value the information shared very much.

To the third caller: Thanks for your information as well. I agree that the GPs are more likely to be the root of the problem then the pain clinics where there is more monitoration & sensabilites. I had a friend that was rear-ended while riding on the back of her husband’s very expensive Harley. She ended up on the hood of the persons car and had an enormous amount of pain for an extended period of time. After 2 or 3 scripts for pain meds she was referred to a pain management center. There she got physical therapy and was withdrawn from pain management. She had a good prognosis of recovery with no long term effects so she was told that she should push through some of the pain and day by day it would lessen and it DID! Of course she was angry at first and felt like she was being singled out or discriminated against somehow, but weeks later she was so happy that she had been pushed in that direction as she recovered fully and didn’t become addicted to anything. On the other hand I have a cousin who had minor back problems on and off since his high school football days. In his early 30’s he had another flare-up and was perscribed Loritabs for a prolonged period of time by his physician. About a year, I think, maybe longer. He was of course over the minor flare-up by then but guess what? He had a severe oxycodone addiction. What did he do about it? He sued his Dr for over prescribing it to him (even though he lied in appointments about how much pain he had been in) for so long. He was awarded $1.3 million dollars!!! This is not a joke! It really happened! The Dr’s malpractice insurance paid out/settled.

The topics mentioned are VERY relavant to this case! If not for Haleigh, then at least for some of those who had daily access to her. It might also stand as a motive for who took he and why. It has been suggested (by PCSO, no less) that one of these drugs ended Haleigh’s life, due to other’s negligence. It happens, maybe not this time, but it does happen. That’s why I refuse to dismiss the Joe Pytcho senario.

Still no word on what is going on with Lisa & Tommy? I think that it is definately related. Think about this, they are BOTH looking at a good amount of time behind bars. Let the feeding fenzy begin. We have been waiting for this. They will do anything to get themselve “better situated” even tell on or lie about Misty. Sometimes I just wish that LE would tell what piece they are searching for so we could help them find it.
Is it just me that understands that TJ has WAY moe info then he is telling us about due to ethics & practices? If he goes blabbing all of the info LE has given him so far, his professionalism would be in question & his reputation severely damaged. I can’t wait to hear what all he does know though!!!

Armando; I liked hearing your perspective. I think sometimes it takes a person with actual knowledge of the drug lifestyle to really connect the dots for those who have no experience with such things, personal or familial/friends. I hope you return again soon.

Cobra was actually hired by a source connected with the Sheffield’s that is a fact however irrelevant to the main issue, what happened to Haleigh? What did Anthony do right off the bat? She told of a Nanny who took the child. A person who is capable of carrying out a crime such as child murder serves their own self. Misty could of done this by now she could say she gave her away to a couple at a park. She takes the hardest route, for what? the fun of it all. LE were hasty to blame in pressure and often in cases like this it is who was last with the person. Just tonight I watched a show on an elderly woman brutally beaten murdered & raped in her home her elderly husband was there and hurt but survivied. The LE could could not figure it out who came in, no forced entry so they blamed the father and even told the kids their dad did it, minor issues in their conclusion. He was in his 80’s had 2 strokes that year was paralyzed on one side of his body and got around via a walker. 5 years later it was looked at again it turned out to be a neighbours son who had actually came over to the home when they carried the woman’s body out and gave condolences to the kids. LE needs to stop blaming the last person & they need to stop absorbing false faces of God “good Christian folk” married couples as no reason to look into the home when they are called out. Time and time again they do this only to follow it up with “We are sorry, we made mistakes, we are learning, this is a new thing” it’s been new since the beginning of man. Mandatory search of home and all vehicles, sheds, barns,tents, under ground anything when called out no matter how frivolous the call may seem and no matter how righteous the people may appear. Mandatory straight up same same for all and immediate firing of any Policing officer who does not comply 100%. To often personal beliefs, ideas of what a predator looks like, laziness and stereotyping by LE is causing the deaths of children or prolonged captivity usually for sexual slavery, this is no longer acceptable. With that said I believe who ever went in and took Haleigh either lives close by or had access to an in door premises close by or took her in a vehicle. I don’t believe any one would take her in her under garment and walk down the road with her and that go unnoticed. This is a process of elimination but hardly if using common sense is Misty the only one to look. The young girl in Texas “Amber” IMHO she is alive.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families

Well, I’d say that Dienda Thompson isn’t exactly wealthy and she is no longer married, had a live-in boyfriend, and some racy pics on her myspace, drug propeganda pics, mentions how her BF’s favorite movies are pornos & yet she isn’t considered a suspect or involved in any way. So I don’t think it is across the board profiling. Another thing is that, statistically speaking, financial status is a major player in the known abuse cases. Yes, sometimes rich/wealthy people murder their children. There was a Dr in another state, just before Christmas, who killed his 12 yr old son. The wife had severe lacerations to her hands and arms from trying to defend herself and their son. She finally ran screaming next door to the neighbor’s for help as the man brutally murdered the boy. It just more often happens in families of a lower finacial level. Professionals say that they believe that the pressures of less money & resources has a direct correlation to the abuse/murders.
Also, cases where the those who are questioned, lie or tell half-truths & LE has or can get verifiable proof are ALWAYS going to be more scrutinized. If it’s proven to be anyone other than D Snodgrass how many are going to feel bad about discussing him, his case, and remarks about his guilt in Haleigh’s abduction? Now, some are saying that his wife/GF may have been the one to take the pics & framed him. The 2 girls no longer want to testify. I don’t know if that’s due to not wanting to go on the stand, or what. That case is falling apart if they don’t. He will NOT be a SO. His tracking device will be removed and he will be totally free and presumed innocent. Now, I’m not saying he is, cause I don’t know. I’m just saying legally he will have a clean record. I say all of this to point out that many have huge issues with the Misty being scrutinized but have no problem directing that scrutiny towards someone who may have absolutely nothing to do with Haleigh’s abduction. They scream “there’s no proof…” That’s right, there’s no proof of anyone taking Haleigh other than she is missing. For this fact, everyone is SUSPECT, especially those who LE state is hiding something with regard to the child’s disappearance. Others will then be scrutinized due to how they associate with or react to that person. It’s unavoidable. Why would LE keep releasing those statements: “Misty is key, If anyone has proof of her where abouts that night, Misty is still not telling all she knows” if they don’t have some kind of proff to back it up? Why would they even want to catch Misty only to let the real person go free? Collusion with Sheffields? Maybe but a real long shot. Would putting pressure on Misty flush out the real person if it’s not her or she doesn’t know more? I don’t believe the public pressure theory. That only happens when LE jumps to make an arrest & obtain a conviction. That hasn’t happened here. They are actually taking their time to get the proof they need to make a conviction stick. That SHOULD be a good thing. Who ever did take Haleigh should PAY and anyone who aided or assisted or held back information should be punished as well. No matter whom that might be.

Goodmorning all, It is unfortunate that everyone surrounding Haleigh is considered to be scrutinized, but to me they all are a suspect until proven otherwise. Ron has stated that his personal life should not be relevant to his daughters disappearance. Well, unfortunate for him it does. He was living with a minor in which he started dating when she was 16 and has drug issues. The enviroment of the child plays key to who Haleigh came in contact with prior to her disappearance. He also was the primary custodian of this little girl at the time of her disappearance. He just had poor judgement. I can understand why these two come under fire more so than the others. We cannot rule out the maternal side either. Although, I personally do not think it was Crystal herself who had anything to do with Haleighs disappearance. I still believe the answers to what happened to Haleigh lye in Satsuma. I just continue to pray that Haleigh is found alive and well. I do agree with Lesa that PCSO have insinuated that Haleigh may of died due to a drug overdose. I am praying that PCSO find what they need to convict those involved with little Haleighs disappearance and I also believe that there will be several that get hauled off to prison.

Hi, Armando!
There are a number of places and ways to contribute to help the quake victims in Haiti.
The Red Cross is one of the big names.
What is “trxting “yele” to 501 501?” Who or what is that and what do they do?
TIA

By texting yele to 501 501 on ur cell phone. Charges 5$ to ur phone bill and it is donated to th quake relief. It’s one of many outlets. If u want to donate more th Red Cross would b th best option.

Thank you, Armando. Who or what organization is running that? Probably one of the phone providers?

I cant remember the show I saw on discovery awhile back, it was a documentary about Roxies and other drugs and there were teens talking about one of their friends who had died. They were candid about what happened and had sworn off drugs because of it.Evidently this teen had become addicted and made abad choice and mixed drugs and died. It is so sad that the drug companies influence doctors to prescribe these drugs as much as possible when they know how addictive they are. To me it is pure greed and selfish not to consider where these drugs may end up. in my honest opinion

Something also occured to me when the panel said LE was cracking down on the pain management places, whats going to happen when all the drug addicted people can no longer get a supply? Is it going to cause a backlash of crime? Remember the supply and demand rules, when there is high demand and small supply prices go up, thus more crime to get money to buy high priced drugs. I f not handled correctly this could be bad. jmo

Mistys father was arrested for Oxy and hydrocodine prescription fraud. He claimed several times that his meds were stolen. He should not still be taking them for over 11 months, he only had a broken leg for petes sake. Those drugs are for extreme pain management such as cancer. There are other pain management drugs that are less addictive that should have been prescribed.
Countless people who I have known have had and died from cancer, one was my father. He was told that he could only have a certain amount of pain killers because they were addictive.
When you are terminal what makes the difference? Evidently Florida doctors hand them out like candy? Just deplorible behavior on both sides. imho

Goodmorning m2c, I was agreeing with Lesa that the Joe pytko scenario and the letters from Nay Nay. There was also a big rumor that swept through Putnam County about 2 weeks prior to the fight between Ron and Tommy when they went to pick up Misty from GGSYKES. The rumor at that time also insinuated that Haleigh had died from a drug overdose. This was overheard in a doctors office. The person was speaking openly and said that LE was looking at Ron and Misty as the suspects. They said le felt she was first put in the dumpster then removed. This person claimed to be related to one of the detectives. The rumor also stated that Haleigh had been found and thats how they knew she had overdosed and they had sent out tox screens to find out what kind of drug and how much was in her system. I guess they would then decide if were accidental or intentional. Le did come out and denounce the rumor, but not until after Ron and Tommys brawl. Then you have Misty stating she believes Haleigh is alive, but sends them into the woods to search where they find a fake rose. I personally want Haleigh found alive and I believe even if le are assuming that Haleigh has passed they still want to list her as missing until they get more concrete evidence that foul play did in fact take her life.

I hope they find out soon. I will check in later. Company just arrived. See you soon

I am also in the belief that an oxicodone or roxie addict would be alot like someone addicted to morphine. This addict would likely do anything when withdrawl starts. We know of several incidents that would relate to someone being addicted and showing the behaviors of an addict. Addicts do not have morals when it comes to getting the next fix.imho

Tobias you are correct about how they crush and snort oxycontins. It is like cocaine; which is an upper. You are also correct about them getting their next fix. They show all the same signs as someone on cocaine. They talk alot, their eyes are wide and the pupils dialated. They can stay up along time with no sleep, but when they crash; they crash. It is sad to say but I have a sisternlaw that is hooked on pharmecuticles. Her eyes glow when she is on the roxies or oxycontin and yes she has been in trouble for doctor shopping. She goes to a pain clinic, but she takes methocodone I believe that helps remove perscriptions you should not have in your system when it is time for them ( the pain clinic ) to test you. I have heard that there are people traveling to Miami to get what they need. These folks are desperate people. How sad that they live by drugs to stay awake and some take downers to go to sleep. They are drug induced around the clock. They cannot deal with life as a reality. Truely sad.

Justice, The point I was trying to make is that someone addicted to Roxies would do anything if they were faced with the withdrawl symptoms stated. Many are reported to rob, steal,cheat and perhaps murder while the drug is driving them to get more. And with the problems reported in the Croslin family with Doctor shopping one has to question what it was like before Papa got in the wreck and got the prescription. How were they getting the drugs before Feb. 8th(the night Hank sr. got in the car wreck and was prescribed oxicodone)
Its just a question that has me bothered.imho

Tobias, I agree with you. Well, the answers I got when I asked thse questions were they buy them off the street. Whether they used their hard earned money or stole something to sell to get the money. They will do whatever necessary from what I have been told from folks over in Putnam County. I was also told for those who recieve these scripts they sale a portion of their pills for profit as well as enough to get their next script in order to keep the supply going.

Where the info came from that the bed was not slept in was Tim Miller. I have my doubts on much of what he said.

Legally LE could not question Misty without a parent being present. That is why Chelsea went to get Lisa at the hospital before coming to Satsuma that day. Otherwise any information she could have given could not be used in court. That is the law everywhere in the United States.imho

Interesting info, Tobias – thanks! I do hope it would have been noted in the police report if Misty was showing signs of possible recent drug use. Based on observations from a trained and experienced police officer, maybe this can be used as evidence in court.

From Mistys information on the voice stress test she says Tommy was already involved with drugs before any of this happened and was acting strange. If you can believe anything she says? Just an observation. Seeing as now we know this may have been the truth for once.
jmo

if Joe Psycho(that’s what the locals call him) said that then he was lying and if LE did say that to Nay Nay then they were lying to her which they are prone to do to get info. That’s not a new police tactic.

There’s link comming in moderation that explains why LE on scene can not always decide who is high or not. It also contains a link from an EMT site that talks about pediatric overdose on Oxycodone, the symptoms, and prevelance. Almost 10,000 childen from 2003 – 2006. That is roughly 3,333 kids per year. I imagine that number has doubled in recent years. Is it so darn hard to believe that it could have happened to Haleigh? Especially since MANY around her daily life was using that same substance? Misty, Crystal, TC, HC, LC, and a host of others I’m sure?

Armando said,in January 18th, 2010 at 11:37 am

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Haleigh is NOT gone. Shes as alive as we are.

AnneInTN;

Please, enlighten us…..where is she? How are you sure of her status? Also please enlighten the LE to this fact so they can bring her home. If you don’t trust the locals please contact the FBI.

Please send letters AGAIN to Attorney General in FL again.

AnneINTn,
Quit being a drama queen. If you REALLY know anything, it is VERY EASY TO ANNONOMOUSLY REPORT A TIP TO LE. Dont come on here and drop hints that you know something if you dont. We have had enough trolls on these sites, and dont need any more.

Already did Guys.

Good for you, AnneINTN! I hope it is a solid lead.

Lets all be friends here. I want her found same as you all do. Sorry if I offended anyone. Everything I find I send it in.

Sometimes you cant just post here what u know. Understand? I am very sorry I did.

You posted nothing but a statement, which may or may not be true. I agree, any really sensitive information needs to be communicated to LE, not posted on a blog—FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.

You know searching around,I happen to read a comment from a poster on SM who said Brandon O,Misty’s cousin is living in Tn with Brandon Frye’s aunt.This is not true Brandon O is still in Michigan and it’s Brandon Fryer,not Frye,and is in prison for two years,starting last October.Brandon Fryer was the “gangsta boy”,friend of Joe’s,who we have not found out if he actually did go to Florida,or not.There is so much misinformation that people post,it’s hard to seperate fact from fiction.

Plus,Brandon O just got out of jail around November and was in Michigan at Christmas,according to his gf.She has the pics on her myspace.He might have married the girl by now,they were getting married.The SM poster said Brandon’s been in Tenn. for quite some time,nope,he was in jail in Michigan.And he’s still a gangsta,or all those party pics from Christmas are staged.LOL

AnneInTn said,
in January 18th, 2010 at 7:01 pm

Armando said,in January 18th, 2010 at 11:37 am

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Haleigh is NOT gone. Shes as alive as we are
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You have that right, Anne.

And to whomever said she was a troll, she’s far from a troll so back off.

I have read enough of this story to have a knee jerk reaction to claims that are too good to be true. For those who “know” Haleigh is alive, provide proof to LE. Not here on this blog, for crying out loud. I will be watching to see if Haleigh is recovered.

Roswell, Aliens, Kidnapping, And The Cover-up by Simon Barrett.

http://www.bloggernews.net/123579

I think everyone is still sort of hanging on to the LawShrink episode and that’s why so many feel guarded when someone posts a comment such as Anne’s. I am holding on to the thought/hope that HaLeigh is alive and well.

And not to be mean… but, AnneInTN is NOT a LawShrinker, or troll!

Hollys Gmom,

Thanks for the link. Interesting message.

One small thing just rather stuck with me today, Bugout.. you made reference to RC’s repeated rageful incidents, chasing people in cars (heard his engine revving past CJ (althought you wrote TJ) that night you could hear the pedal to the metal) the fury and anger on the 911 call instead of outright FEAR.

My question, unless you were there, having actual knowlege of any of these occurances.. That you point only in the direction of Ron..

Would you be willing to Swear that all that was said was the absolute truth out of CJ’s Mouth?

Very easy to point fingers at one specific person when all your interested in is the gossip you hear.. Do you think that CJ had a good reason to set a fire at his home? And that he told the truth when he was arrested and convicted.. Do you think that CJ had brought a gun into play in this incidence without the thought of using it?? Why would he be asking if he could legally shoot Ron?? If Ronald did not have a gun with him that night.. then CJ lied!! If he would lie about one thing, why wouldn’t he be lying about another.. You need to go back and really check the story..

How do you know what really occured?

You speak of this Precious Gift from Crystal to Ron as per Haleigh..

Well, let me ask you where this following comment came in: “Why should I have to pay support for those kids, after all I gave birth to them”!

When ask on National TV, “What time does Haleigh get out of School”? The response, “I don’t know, I don’t live down there”!

Why in any of the videos of interviews, are there never tears in Crystal’s eyes?

You find terrible fault towards Ron, in his emotions, showing Anger first, Emotional collapse, Tears.. you claim cannot be real..

Well, how did you react when your Child was stolen from her bed?? Oh, maybe you haven’t gone through this terror! But, of course you automatically know how people should react, Correct?

If all that you have is passed on the trash you have read and the gossip, you are doing yourself and injustice.. Because is not making you look like you’ve done your homework.. Gossip is a terrible thing, especially when people cannot see the truth, they feed on Gossip and they hate because of the gossip.. Somewhere down the line.. they will learn the truth.. Because truth does have a big Habit of coming out.. I hope when it does, your a big enough person to look those in the eye that you have been so vile towards, and ask their forgiveness.. And just maybe they will be a much better person than you have projected and they will forgive you..

Well I wonder how many of the media will show up in Satsuma on the 10th of Feb.? Will any of the people involved in this case show up and have a vigil or memorial? It should be very eye opening that day to see what will be said and who wont be there to say anything. At the 6 birthday LE had alot to say will they have a presser? Will the parents show up? Will Misty be there with the Cummings family? The christmas vigil was not attended by certain people and where are the towns people?
I was disappointed that the citizens of Satsuma did nothing on Christmas for Haleigh or her families? Are they ready to move on as a town and if so do they feel safe for their children? IT JUST BAFFLES ME, WE HAVENT GIVEN UP BUT FROM WHAT I SEE SATSUMA HAS.JMO

Thunderbunny, He has said very little about anyone in any interview. He did say in his last interview on Nancy Grace that he did question Mistys story. What I find interesting is the fights and arguements are not with any of the Sheffields, they are with Mistys family.
All of the soap opera events around the case have involved the Croslins. If there were hard feelings between Ron and Crystal there sure is nothing to prove it,ie no fights, no battery,nothing to show hate for each other at all. Even the custody battle really didnt show real hatred on either side. jmo

Someone mentioned about the LE concerned about Misty and her demeanor the night Haleigh went missing . Could that be the reason that the Drug Squad was brought into the trailer the night it happened . It was on the video they were showing the night the Mondex Pond was being drained , although I cannot find the link for it , I do know what I seen as being on one of the news stations during their online segments . No I cannot remember which one , I do recall a blonde lady talking in it though . I had wondered then why the DEA , and Drug Enforcement were called into a missing child’s case UNLESS they indeed suspect it was due to it and or they did find some evidence of drug use within the home . IDK , I just know that it was shown in one of the video’s .
I also think that the answer to Haleigh’s demise is within the background of the 911 call , strictly what Ronald was saying in the background and not what the operator or Misty was saying . I also believe the last piece of the puzzle to solve this case is finding Haleigh herself , whether it be dead or alive I think that’s the piece they need to put it all together . I also think that the LE are trying to make sure that whoever is charged in the long run that they will not get off with a technicality. I could be wrong but this is just my opinion . I do hope that they find this child and that justice is served for HER.
It will be a year since she has disappeared and it’s been a year of pain for her . She deserves to be brought home and deserves to be heard . This is all about HALEIGH and the players involved needs to think of her instead of themselves throughout it all , unfortunately it’s not happening .
Correct me if I am wrong but this jerome person that was involved at the beginning , is he the same one that was picked up this morning and shown on the putnam log ??? Or am I seeing things ???
I wonder if the LE are getting tired of Ronald getting off on charges with little or no punishment ?? Somewhere along the way the horseshoe he has stuck up so far inside of him with eventually fall out , as well as the Cummings and Croslin’s families . Luck only goes so far before it runs out , I guess time will tell .

I believe Jerome Williams has been in jail all this time and is now going to court for his crimes. Thats why he showed up on the booking logs. jmo

I also wanted the posters the other day who were talking about Rons stop at the store to get beer. While doing a backtrack on this I found out he stopped at the Handy mart in San Mateo and it was on the way home. I googled the map and saw it was not out of his way .Just thought this info might help you.

Affirmative on the store he stopped by on his way home that night.

I wished Armondo would have finished what he was going to say about Misty and Ron, but he stopped short. Listen to the program again, he sounds real upset when he says it. And why would the community threaten him? Who were the people who he refers to as threatening him?
I felt he was more or less leting us know no one down there cares anymore. imho

the only update for Tommy so far and none for Lisa

UCN: 542009CF001653XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-09-14 Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Defense Atty: WERTER, JAMES S

Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR

2010-01-13 23 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST

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2010-01-13 24 DEMAND FOR DISCOVERY

Hes gonna try to say he never stole the gun.
Remember Lisa and Hank returned it not Tommy.
What do you want to wager he gets away with it?
Slap on the wrist, I wager 6 months probation.jmo

I doubt Tommy is going to blame his mom for stealing it, if he does he definitely is a POS.The only 2 people at that house that night it was stolen was him and his momma.

Does anyone know who Kimberly Collins is? Is she a relation to Lindsy? Just curious.

I know the LE stated they used cadaver dogs to search for Haleigh, obviously they used the dogs to go through Ronald’s home which would indicate Haleigh was alive when she was removed from the home. IMHO that would mean she was alive for a period of time some where. Did the Police use dogs that search for living humans there are dogs trained for that as well. Did Police find out what vehicles Haleigh had not been in that belonged or belongs to family, acquaintances and neighbours. Have LE picked up those vehicles and had them searched by dogs that look for living beings. Should there be a vehicle she in no way was connected with but a dog hit on it that would make it very hard for the owner of that vehicle to explain that. Did they also try this with neighbours homes? As for Baby Gabriel I have always thought he was killed by his Mother her behaviour is consistent with a mind capable of such a horrible selfish act. I heard it said she used phony ID I wonder if she placed the baby in his diaper bag and then in a shipping box or container went to a local town or other station than the one she left by and shipped the child out and he is bouncing around as a result of a phony address filled out by phony ID. Sounds horrible but I would not put it past this “entity” aka the baby’s mother.

Tommy”s battery case against Hank has been dropped.

2010-01-147ARR MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, WAIVING RIGHT TO COUNSEL
2010-01-147ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY – PRE-TRIAL SET 03/03/10
2010-01-148WAIVER OF COUNSEL
2010-01-149PRE-TRIAL ORDER (03-03-2010)
2010-01-1510ANNOUNCEMENT OF NOLLE PROSEQUI

I know that others had posted what was in the 911 call on the fateful night , and sorry but here is a more thorough transcript than what most have posted . I am not a troll nor am here to start problems , just here for Haleigh only . I had spent the last hour and a half listening and typing out everything that could be understood in that call , hope it helps for those that are interested .

Misty : Hi we just woke up and we can’t find our daughter . ( 4 seconds )

911 : Can’ t find what ??

Misty : Our daughter . ( 7 secs )

911: okay what’s your address ??

Misty : buzz Green Lane ( sounds like she said Satsuma though I could be wrong )

911 : What’s the numerical ???

Misty : Numerical , what’s that ??

911 : the number green lane . . .

Misty : Yes ( sounds rehearsed to me )

911 : okay when did you last see her ??

Misty : We’re were just like you know , at 10 o’clock we were she was sleeping and I was cleaning .

911 : okay how old is your daughter ??

Misty : oh

911: okay what was she last seen wearing ??

Ronald : how can you let my daughter get stolen in the middle of the night ??

Misty : she was in her pajama’s

911 : mam ??

Misty : we were sleeping

911 : okay alright , you said your back door was wide open ??

Misty : yes with a brick like there’s brick . . . like on the when I went to sleep the door was not like that .

911 : okay the back door , listen to me you’re back door was open what are you talking about a brick ?

Misty : yes . . . ( 1:04 secs )

911 : what is the brick ??

Misty : it’s on the back door on the stairs it has like a walkway

911 : uh huh . . . and there was a brick laying there ??

Misty : yes , it’s still there .

Ronald : tell them better come now .

Misty : they are . .

911 :we got them coming , tell him we got them coming

Misty : They’re coming . . .

911 : okay what’s the color of your house mam ??

Misty : it’s blue .

911 : it’s blue okay .

Ronald : something about being with a junkie . inaudible at the end of that statement .

911 : okay what does she look like , how tall is she ?? Give some kind of description of her .

Misty : she has like long hair , curly like curls . .

911 : long hair , curls what color ???

Misty : she’s white . . . hair

911 : brown hair . .

Misty : ya , oh my gosh . . couldn’t understand the rest of it .

911: okay how tall is she about ??? Or how much does she weigh do you know that ???

Misty : huh ???

911: about how tall or how much does she weigh ???

Misty : like 4 something , I don’t know she’s not that tall . .

Ronald : whining in back ground .

911 : okay , tell you’re husband we got them coming .

Misty : okay

911: how much does she weigh do you know ??? ( 2:25 )

Misty : huh ??

911: how much does she weigh ???

Misty : um like 40 to 50 , 60 lbs .

911 : 40 to 60 lbs .

Misty : ya .

911 : okay let me get your name and phone number .

Misty : my name is

911 : spell your last name .

Misty : don’ t . .

Ronald : this is all your fault . ( 2:47)

Misty : Ronald . . . we we’re sleeping and just woke up .

Ronald : we got a dead kid , what’s the matter with you , can’t make out what the last part was . ( 2:49 -2:52)

911 : okay was your back door locked do you know ???

Misty : yes the back door always stays locked .

Ronald : man I need someone to come here now .

Misty : they’re coming . .

911: okay let me speak to him so we can . . .

Misty : here here here here here . . .

Ronald : I just got home from work and my five year old daughter is gone I need someone here now . I’m telling you .

911: listen to me . . we got two officers ..

Ronald : if I find whoever has my daughter before you all do I’m killing him . I don’t care I’ll spend the rest of my life in prison and I don’t care I’m telling you you can put it on recording and I don’t care .

911: okay , it’s okay sir . we got them on the way . what kind of discriptioin of the pajama’s she was wearing .

Ronald : Whining . . . I don’t F-ing know I was at work .

911 : okay sir we got them coming okay .

phone call disconnected . 3:37 pause

911 : yea , I’m going to get that . 4:08

Ronald : hello ?? 4:25

911: okay sir let me talk to your wife . . . so let me get some information from her .

Ronald : whiny . . . man I need someone here to be now to find my daughter .

911: can I talk to her ???

Ronald : almost sounds like here ray but doubt that is what he is saying .

Misty : hello

911: mam ???

Ronald : how the F could you let my daughter get stolen bitch .

911: mam ??

Misty : yea ??

911: okay listen to me I need you to answer some questions for me . . . Does the door look like it was pried open ???

Misty : umm did you lock that door ??

911: does it look like you had someone try to enter your house ??

Misty : um hold on . . . .

911: and another thing make sure you and your husband don’t touch the door anymore . Don’t mess with the door or anything .

Ronald : couldn’t tell what he was saying at ( 5:00 ) cause of the beeping .

Misty : no it doesn’t ( normal voice )

Ronald : the mother F-ers unlocked . Busted side ways

911 : telling Misty that they are going to try and get K9 out there .

Misty : okay She said don’t touch it that they are bringing K9 out here .

Ronald : They better mother F-ing bring something out here , if I find that mother F-er I’m gonna kill him . And I don’t give a F about prison , prison doesn’t mother F-ing scare me .

911: okay okay we understand . tell him they’re on their way okay ? what’s her name ?? how do you spell her first name ?? what’s her middle name ??

Misty : maria

911: and the spelling of her last name ??

Misty : well that’s my last name , it wasn’t hers . ( voice sounds normal again )

Ronald : can’t tell what he’s saying .

Misty : I said . Where did you . . . .

911: what’s her date of birth ( sounding concerned over whatever Ronald was saying in the background)

Ronald : I’m gonna F-ing kill somebody . .

911 : okay tell him we understand . we need to get her date of birth . .

Misty : what’s her date of birth ???

Ronald : F her date of birth , we need to find her . F her date of birth .

911: okay listen to me I’m getting the information , I’m not the officers driving out there .

Misty : okay

911: Their coming out there to handle that situation , I need to gather all the information I can over the phone . That has nothing to do with me coming out there , that has to do with the officers that are coming .

Misty : whiny

911: they’re coming out there okay ??

Misty : okay .

911: okay I’m gonna stay on the phone with you till the officers come out there okay , okay hang on . ( she sounds concerned over Misty welfare and Ronalds temper in back ground )

Misty : okay ( 6:22 )

Ronald : can’t quite make out what he’s saying but it sounds like he said he can’t find his F-ing dope or could be phone
beeping sounds in background that are NOT the beeping sound from the 911 . He mumbled something after about 8-10 beeping sounds but couldn’t make that out .

911 : tell him we got them coming , he needs to calm down a little bit . The officers are going to come out there to do what they can and we can’t have him screaming and yelling at the officers whenever they get there okay ? ?

Misty : uh huh .

Ronald : Give me my F-ing phone . We got better people to talk to than the mother F-ers that ain’t coming . ( 7:06 and call ends at 7:09 )

I honestly have no idea if she is dead or not , and no idea who to believe for the most part of it . I can however say that instincts are strongly telling me that something is NOT right with this whole case . But this is only my opinion .

MORNING M2C

GOOD TO C U.ANYTHING NEW ON HALEIGH?

I wonder if Jerome Williams knows anything?
If he does now would be the time to tell, he is going to court and will be going away for quite some time. He was supposedly trying to get info before he got locked up again, maybe he kept his ear to the ground,so to speak, and hopefully learned some info. We can only hope he has some. jmo

Lisa’s court stuff

2010-01-14 DEFENDANT ENTERED PLEA OF NOLO CONTENDERE CNT: 1,CNT: 2
2010-01-14 VERDICT OF NO TRIAL CNT: 1,CNT: 2,CNT: 3
2010-01-14 DEFENDANT APPEARED PRES W/ATTY FOR NO TRIAL TRIAL CNT: 1
2010-01-14 DEFENDANT APPEARED PRES W/ATTY FOR NO TRIAL TRIAL CNT: 2
2010-01-14 DEFENDANT ENTERED PLEA OF NOLO CONTENDERE CNT: 3
2010-01-14 DEFENDANT APPEARED PRES W/ATTY FOR NO TRIAL TRIAL CNT: 3
2010-01-14 20 SCORESHEET FILED
2010-01-14 21 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY BILL BOOKHAMMER
2010-01-14 21 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLED NOLO AS CHARGED TO
2010-01-14 21 CT I – UTTERING A FORGED INSTRUMENT
2010-01-14 21 CT II – FORGERY
2010-01-14 21 CT III – PETIT THEFT
2010-01-14 21 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE
2010-01-14 21 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE
2010-01-14 21 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 60 DAYS PCJ &/OR $500 FINE
2010-01-14 21 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING –
2010-01-14 21 ADJUDICATION OF GUILT WITHHELD AS TO CT I AND II
2010-01-14 21 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED GUILTY OF CT III
2010-01-14 21 CT I – 18 MONTHS PROBATION
2010-01-14 21 CT II – 18 MONTHS PROBATION
2010-01-14 21 CT III – 1 DAY PCJ WITH 1 DAY CREDIT
2010-01-14 21 CT II CONCURRENT WITH CT I
2010-01-14 21 $395 COURT COSTS
2010-01-14 21 $50 PUBLIC DEFENDER APPLICATION FEE
2010-01-14 21 $1.00 TO FIRST STEP, INC
2010-01-14 21 $20 TO THE CRIME STOPPERS TRUST FUND
2010-01-14 21 $100 PUBLIC DEFENDER ATTORNEY FEE
2010-01-14 21 $100 COST OF PROSECUTION
2010-01-14 21 COST OF SUPERVISION SET AT $10 PER MONTH
2010-01-14 21 TO UNDERGO AND PAY FOR DRUG TESTING
2010-01-14 21 50 HOURS COMMUNITY SERVICE
2010-01-14 21 RESTITUTION IN THE AMOUNT OF $600 TO PROSPERITY BANK
2010-01-14 21 RESTITUTION IN THE AMOUNT OF $100 TO MJ MARTIN
2010-01-14 21 MAY EARLY TERMINATE
2010-01-14 22 FINGERPRINTS OF DEFENDANT
2010-01-14 23 ORDER OF PROBATION

Is that it? 18 months probation? $700 restitution and community service? They brought her clear from Tennessee for that?
Maybe LE went light on her because she coughed up info? I sure hope so cause otherwise this is really a light sentence for what she did. jmo

Whats Tommy going to get? 6month probation and a lollipop? Really 18 months probation on a max. 5 year $5000 offense? Seems real fishy to me.

Yea, I am wondering how Lisa is going to pay fines,restitution, probation fees and drug tests? I wonder how long before she’s chunked back into jail for POV?

Tommy’s charges are grand theft so I hope he doesn’t get off as easy as she did and he still has the drug charges to face too. Hell, what am I saying he will get a slap on the wrist too..

I really believe the courts don’t want to lock away these repeat offenders because it keeps money flowing in the county coffers for all the crap they have to pay to the county as far as bonds, fines,etc.

OOPS! I meant Hope Sykes sorry.

I think it means she didnt make a plea of guilt or not guilty or no contest. I ll check it out to be sure brb

Part of the definition that I found said:
“The court does not give a final judgment regarding the case.” So that’s why it does not make sense to me. It appears that she got 18 months probation, to run concurrently, for those two charges (counts I and II).
That’s why I’m confused.

Also, Tobias, no matter how loosey goosey the court is there about some things I’m sure it will be a different matter altogether when/if someone is charged with Haleigh’s disappearance. And of course LE should have concrete proof (hopefully) before doing so.

What I see is 18 months probation.50 hrs. community service and a total in fines of $1546.00(that includes the once a month fee for drug tests for 18 months). imho

I wondering why there was a continuence for Tommys gun charge? What is he going to say?
Lisa did it, they were the only ones at Mr.Martins and she did return it herself.
Its not like they wont throw each other under the bus when they are in trouble. imho

Tobias, you asked: “I’m wondering why there was a continuence for Tommys gun charge?”

I don’t know. Could be a number of things. One of which is proof. Lisa returned the gun to the owner, didn’t she? And she’s the one who said Tommy took it. So if it’s a he said/she said, maybe there’s some trouble proving it was him and not her. Or it could be something else. IDK.

I wonder if they found it in the culvert where the previously stolen gun showed up? imho

Thank you, Vaq.
I think what confused me was that it said “Adjudication Withheld” for Counts I and II” and ALSO said 18 months probation to run concurrently for the same counts. So it sounds like counts 1 and 2 were adjudicated (but perhaps not finalized or whatever but can be re-considered if she violates probation or something).

Maybe they foresee Lisa being called as a witness in the future and this would be a good way to keep her testimony from being tainted? Hmmmm. moo

Has anyone heard anything about Cobras court date? I wonder if it will go as smoothly as the Croslins cases? We can only hope he gets free and can resume his life. Just a sad state of affairs.moo

Good night all. Dont forget to say an extra prayer tonight for Haleigh and for Junior.

m2c♥ said,
in January 20th, 2010 at 4:46 pm

What does “ADJUDICATION OF GUILT WITHHELD AS TO CT I AND II” mean?

Can anyone clarify? TIA
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If Lisa does not follow all the (negotiated) terms on Count III — The:

*18 months probation
*50 hours community service
*$1,546.00 in fines (which includes once per month fee for drug testing for 18 months)

She will be “sentenced” on Charges I & II. (Count I = UTTERING A FORGED INSTRUMENT
Count II = FORGERY)

Looks like those sentences were already negotiated. So she already knows exactly what would happen to her if she gets in trouble again. (She would also probably have a VOP in addition to Charges I & II to deal with)

I wonder what Lisa is going to do for her Community Service?

Ron and Tommy were just booked for drug trafficking.

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758545&IMG=59423

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758544&IMG=49930

Misty, too.
Almost a million dollar bond on her!

UPDATE:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=151021&catid=3
First Coast News Jacksonville, Fl
1-20-10 Updated: 11:31 p.m. EST

“Ronald Cummings, Misty Croslin Arrested; Deputies Plan to Question”
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Check out the bond amounts! Wow! They won’t be bonding out any time soon!