The news business is an interesting one. But often not terribly ethical. I think a classic example has to be today’s adventure into the Haleigh Cummings case.
BNN and our good friends at The Sky 97.3 were the first news organizations to run with a story. I had been asked specifically not to share a name. The gentleman was willing to talk with me, but was very concerned that the criminal investigation might be compromised. I agreed to keep his name out of the press, and also to only talk in broad terms as to what was happening on the ground.
I did not share that name with anyone. But trust me, I got grilled on the subject. A call to PCSO to confirm the information resulted in a rather reluctant, but very fast press release. The key sentence being:
Due to the sensitivity of this investigation, the name of the person providing the tip and the physical evidence alleged to be in this area, will not be released.
This to me says it in black and white. Only an idiot can miss the less than subtle hint. They did not want a name released.
So what happens? One of Nancy Graces gophers announces the name on her program! Great job of keeping your mouth shut!
One person that called me as this idiocy was unfolding made the comment, “Cobra hates Putnam County, you could not bribe him to enter it, this knucklehead on Nancy has just sealed the deal for himself, if he sets foot in Putnam they won’t throw him in jail they will just lynch himâ€.
Having been following this case from the very beginning I have learned a great deal about the PCSO. The sure fire way to annoy them is to report things that are untrue, and the death knell is to report something that they have requested be kept quiet.
Generally what happens when some press type crosses the line is that the PCSO close up tighter than a clam. That is clearly going to be the result of today’s idiocy. 5 seconds of fame on HLN means 5 weeks of famine for everyone else in the press.
Great job!
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackEveryone just wants to know what happen to LIL Haleigh. Simon thanks for your updates but things are not going to be quite because AH said something on NG show. The Croslin’s can’t keep their mouths shut.lol
Law enforcement doesn’t tell us much anyways. Everything we know mainly comes from THE CROSLIN’s
I don’t get it..were you threatened simon?
I watched NG and don’t recall anything about cobra.
Okay now I am confused with it all.
OJ Glove
I didn’t hear anything about Cobra either.
oh i get it..AH mentioned the grandmother, or was it the aunt? I remember that part a little.
I’m going to bed. People need to act like adults and not children. Simon what do you care what AH says?
You report what you want to report and let AH report what he wants to report. This is crazy.
No need to be confused. It is not about Cobra.
It is about Art spilling the beans about Grandma.
Well, now i have to watch NG. I dvr’d it but didn’t watch because her breaking news is usually at least 3 days old or 3 months. Argh is right!
I may not be correct but the way I read Simon’s reference to Cobra was an example of what PSCO can do when you step on their toes. I’m sure if I interpreted this wrong someone will clarify. I hope.
Didn’t AH bring up Chelsea giving up some information? He also said Tommy gave up Timmy, I believe. I am going to relisten to that show. I am not sure because my mind is whirling.
Thanks OJ glove now i don’t have to watch NG. 😉
OJ, The press were specifically asked to NOT use a name. I thought I had made that clear in the article.
When they say that, they generally want the press to play along. I had the name at 6:30am, but quickly realized the problem. That was confirmed with a conversation with the person, and the press release that came bouncing out from PCSO minutes after another phone call to them.
Everyone wants ‘Bombshells’, and ‘exclusives’ the problem is that sometimes ‘Loose lips sink ships’. It’s an old WWII saying, but it is as true today as it was then.
ok im lost and extremly confused
We will have a better understanding tomorrow, or the next day when a little more comes out. From the sounds of it, all of the Croslins are pointing fingers at each other. The sad thing is if they hadn’t have been on drugs so bad, none of this(Possibly) would have happened.
I know your an honorable man simon..
thank you
by the way, Misty had NO involvement.. she was ‘asleep’ like she said she was.
I wish Simon would replay the earlier radio programs covering the Haleigh case, so we all could refresh our memories. I think it would be neat to go back and listen to them now, with what we know now.
I thought I heard NG mention the grandmother quickly. Than I wondered what grandmother since there are two. If the grandmother gave the tip, just wondering where she got her info. Don’t worry Simon I don’t think any of us are still clear on who gave the tip.
Why would they give you a name and then ask you not to use it? You expect us to believe this?! I’m insulted every time I click a link and realize that once again I’m at the site with spelling errors/grammatical errors/huge EGOS (this site). Lucky you…four times out of five I just find a better site for information; however, I sometimes find myself unable to resist a comment. So, yes, Simon and Jan, you are superior to everyone else. Excuse me while I go read some real news.
so cobra was the tipster? This is confusing because I heard Art say that Tommy led Steve Brown to the that dock. Don’t know if he meant figuratively or gave him the clue where to look.
WhyWasteMyTime?: hi art! post using your real name!! lol
Vaquera Hahaha, NO Cobra was not the tipster. He has decided to move on from this case.
I did talk to him today, actually a couple of times, but that is hardly news. Cobra and I talk most days.
to WhyWasteMyTime this site gives the best info. why else would simon not give a name. because he was asked not to. i’m sure he probably wanted to but didn’t because this about Haleigh not us or our need to know. and if u have a better site than this one for info u wouldnt be here reading this trying to find more out because your other site didnt fill u in
thanks Simon my brain is not fully functioning tonight, I guess cobra was just used as an example.:) So Steve Brown was the tipster that is who Art said it was. Hopefully tomorrow we will have better info from PCSO.
Gee, WhyWasteMyTime? why did you come here if you knew you were going to waste your time? 8)
Well Simon, you kept your word, Art Harris didn’t. He’ll be blackballed for brown nosing miss nancy and you will be remembered for attempting to play by their rules.
I don’t go anywhere but here for Haleigh news. I admit I watch NG but as for an online source, this is the place to be.
I like how you roll. Good job.
Why waste my time….go away.
Vaquera, who is Steve Brown, just when I think I am getting a handle on this case, poof another player?
If Arty spilled it, then he spilled it and will have to deal with it! How do we know Art even gave his word or agreed to keep mum? How about we find out how long Granny was holding on to this info?
Simon, Take some deep breaths. Relax and know that you are the honorable reporter here. I watched NG tonight and clearly heard her state that it was confirmed that this has now been updated to a homocide investigation…five or ten seconds later, she replayed the sheriffs statement where he clearly stated that would be decided at a later time. NG DRAMA! She and AH should walk the streets carrying signs that say “Will lie for ratings” You state facts. That is why we come here to get the scoop. Sleep well my friend, you have done an phenominal job since day one…but in the last fews weeks, your skills were shining brighter than any other reporter in the business.
Goodnight fellow bloggers, You will all be in my prayers along with HaLeigh tonight.
I guess even the best slip up sometimes. I recall last summer right here on BNN TJ Hart telling us how upset he was that he had not checked his sources better prior to running a story to his embarrassment. He carried on and blogged for days right here while posters told him it would be ok. I think he was frozen out of the PCSO information pipeline for a little while though.
It’ll be okay Simon, we’ll all be okay. The citizens of PC as well as the general public are extremely vested in whether little Haleigh will be found. We bloggers may take a back seat if priorities are to be assigned, but this time the public will be heard I’m willing to bet.
Have any of you been keeping up with the Harris County TX lawsuit Arthur vs Stern, AHarris etc?
One woman that was working with AH as a volunteer in that case has being giving a two day depo regarding his involvement and his computers were forensically searched and allegedly he removed hard drives, has someone “clean” things and deleted over 7000 emails. ALLEGEDLY!! The case is set for trial in the fall.
http://www.topix.com/forum/who/anna-nicole-smith/T8QNAA40MHNRE60PQ
skip to almost the end and you’ll have to read all the lengthy documents and his quest to have a high priced CBS attorney to defend his Entertainment Tonight videos per a certain blogger. The early posts also outline the case and all the spoliation of computers. Allegedly!!! Many of the emails he calls various people by defamatory “nicknames”.
I drove to Muggy Satsuma for 45 minutes only to get a call from my wife telling me she’s scared alone with th kids.
She said ur no journalist. Stick to writting books, it’s wht ur good at. Lol
I love my wife so here I am bak home.
But I can say this th place is a nightmare. No one allowed in. Lights
hellicopters, boats, police, ambulances, and lots of media.
Sry folks. Maybe we’ll know more tomorrow. But for now keep a candle burning through th night. Remember this little girl for th better tht she has made us all.
I know she’s changed my life! R.I.P. Haleigh 4ever remembered in my heart!
goodnight…Cruel world!
((((Hey, Pink Methinks Panther))))
Actually we knew that tipster’s name at 9:03 last night….Well, a little thereafter.
I don’t mean to point out the obvious but NG and Art Harris are not mind readers. With that said it means someone affiliated with family and or the investigation told the name. Hasn’t that been the issue all along? They can bitch all they want about it getting out but it got out because some blabbed it. PROFESSIONALISM PREVENTS THIS TYPE OF NONSENSE!!! ZIP IT!!!! WHEN A PERSON DOESN’T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW SOMETHING ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS SHUT UP. It’s a really simple strategy.
Edited by Jan Barrett – BNN Editor
If anyone cares, I posted at the previous site, I really wish you all would read it.
The chain is: Chelsea told L.Padilla that she got a letter from Misty stating it would implicate 2 people…and how Joe was in the MH, Tommy too. She trusted and assumed L.Padilla would never tell anyone.
BUT, LP tattled on Chelsea, and she panicked and angrily denied ever getting “any letter” and even said “Misty never told me anything about Joe or Tommy, or Joe in the doorway of the MH” (Good ole LP, He was trying to do the right thing and get the truth out;) and I remember reading that Chelsea said “L.P. is making this stuff up so he can be famous” (*this is before ANY INFO WAS RELEASED TO PUBLIC ABOUT THERE EVEN BEING ANY LETTERS, LP knew way before we did!!)*
BUT….then all of a sudden, we hear about 2 supposed mystery letters that Misty wrote to 2 different family members???
***Surprize***Chelsea is the recipient of one of the letters, and in it Misty tells her about Joe, Tommy etc…
I thought at first Chelsea was just trying to keep info under wraps for LE, but if so, why did she ramble on and on like a crazy woman about LP??? It reeked of guilt. JMO
Why did she and Timmy not continue to question the scratches and mud on the van: WHY DID THEY PICK UP AND GO TO MASS….Ummm, sounds way to coincidental to me, and always has. They claimed it was to keep the kids away from Joe but then why did they sleep w/him in the same home before??
Joe was dirty, slept in his clothes, but HIS SHIRT WAS MISSING. Bet its in that ice chest.
WHY DID MISTY MAKE A PHONE CALL TO TIMMY BEFORE RON GOT HOME??? It was confirmed in records.
Tommy cracked, he is actually the one in the middle here, knowing at the same time when he confesses, everyone else will COME TUMBLING DOWN with him. Thats where the source on first coast news came from, that TOMMY ratted out TIMMY.
Remember Timmy saying on jailhouse phone conversations that he was going to come visit Tommy and Misty, but he figured he better “stay away, cuz then they’ll probably try to get me too”????? WTH??? But, he can send his flippin tax check down there?? Wow, how generous. (sarcasm)
********now whe are supposed to be looking for the van??? And the stupid media is acting like it’s a “mystery van”..Hahahaha
Could it maybe be the same van that Timmy and Chelsea own, and was scratched, and moved, and had freakin dirt all over it.
DustyRose… I like… very much!!!
Sorry for my long posts, but I’m begging for u all to read them, these are real facts. I had 3 computers going at one time all day.
*********now this is a real BOMBSHELL:
today after I brought my son to preschool, about 10am, I got home and I kept hearing all these helicopters…presently in Virginia, lots of bases here, no big deal.
HOWEVER, this has gone on ALL DAY, NON STOP, so I asked my husband about it, and he said they could possibly be “assessing” the northeast coast. Then he just smiled. He said, can’t tell u why, they just are.
((((He is a flight commander for the USMC))))
ronfan, I hate it when my husband can’t tell me anything. He’s in the Army and in Iraq right now.
That’s what makes me mad about “Press Conferences” too. Why have one if they can’t tell you anything.
RonFan, have read your posts… but what does the “assessing” mean in relations to this case. What do you think it mean, a body? Sorry, I’m not making the connection.
Hi Paw, nice to see you!!
Ronfan:
I read your post. I will be watching closely with what you said in mind for the next few days.
I have a feeling they already have the remains (hence why the family was called in). But they aren’t going to say anything to the press until they have confirmation that yes indeed the remains are Haleigh’s. They know it’s her due to the other evidence they found. But for the sake of any future arguments, they want confirmation first before they tell the world.
Hiya cent, and all.
Is anyone thinking now about a statement Misty made right after Haleigh’s disappearance about the blankets.
“My blanket, it was in the van that THEY TOOK” we discussed this topic about 2 weeks ago i think, and none of us remember hearing anything else said about it at the time.
And remember Ron, when he kept saying “whoever it is, whether it’s one of em’, or two of em’ I don’t care, I’ll kill them…It doesn’t matter WHO IT IS, they’ll get what’s coming to them”
Everytime I see them walking him out in SHACKLES AND HANDCUFFS I CRY. CANT THEY ATLEAST LET THIS MAN HAVE HIS DIGNITY????
That poor man, he probably HAS TO be kept in shackles, for fear that HE WILL RUN AND GET HIS REVENGE.
ITS ABOUT TIME, AND I HOPE HE DOES IT. AND IF THOSE JUDGES AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY PUNISH HIM FOR THE DRUG CHARGES, THATS A SIN.
No matter who did what, we know they are all hurting so much, each with their own burdens..whether it be guilt, or loss.
katfish said,
in April 13th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Vaquera, who is Steve Brown, just when I think I am getting a handle on this case, poof another player
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He is a FL PI that Tommy’s attorney James Werter brought in..Art spilled the beans about him being the tipster on NG’s show earlier.
Okay RonFan… you had me up until your 4th papragraph… LOL… Revenge I can understand.
Paw69:
They either have the body, or they may be certain enough by other evidence they found that she is dead. In Florida, they may never find a body, and they may not be able to hold off with settling this case, forever.
If Haleigh was put in a cooler like they pulled out of that river, they may find a body. If they just weighted it down, they probably won’t ever find it.
I’m sure they gave everyone time to compose themselves before leaving. But TN gave me the answer when she was walking in. Ron looked like he was ready to bust loose and beat some butt when walking out. Every emotion is going through that man right now. And I’m sure Misty isn’t doing any better herself. I’m not one to look at expressions much because people deal with things in so many different ways. Ron has grieved for his daughter already and now anger has set in very deeply. This is just my opinion of course. That’s just how I see it.
Next:
Joe is arrested eventually for the murder of Haleigh. Timmy is arrested as an accessory after the fact as is Misty. Tommy gets a pass for providing LE with testimony and gets a possible reduction in sentence on his current drug charge. Ronald goes to prison nonetheless along with Hope and Donna for the trafficking charges.
The interesting aspect to this all which will keep the public talking is the infighting between all the family members – people pointing fingers – calling each other liars – and being just who and what they are. No need to expound on that.
Haleigh, Junior, and all the toddlers have unfortunately been cursed from birth – for just being born into this mess of a “family”.
NTC
I have a feeling Ron is going to walk from those charges. But they are holding him for his and other’s safety due to the information that’s going on now.
If LE is gonna freeze anyone out… it should be HollyG, for all her sleuthing last night and dropping a dime on Mr. Brown… LOL… HollyG, yous in troublllleeee! Beware of men in black suits!!
If anyone is interested, go to YOUTUBE, type in Ronald Cummings, and the song “Isnt she lovely” .
Then cry.
I pray that Haleigh watches over her family right now, and somehow let’s them know she’s okay. So many parents who have lost a child say that they have had dreams of similar occurences, and realize it is their child coming to them and reassuring them that they are ok.
She is and will continue to be forever, everyone’s little angel.
How much of an impact that one beautiful little girl has had on a society….14 months of the entire country’s devotion and hope, not once did her story ever fade into the distance
Thank you, Haleigh’s family, for allowing us to pray with you, and treasure and adore your little beautiful Haleigh. I believe inside of all of us, she has made an impact and will continue to do so forever, in our hearts.
Haleigh will never be forgotten. Her Dora the Explorer backpack, her precious smile, always so happy…
Haleigh, we know your still smiling right now!
God Bless You Haleigh, and Goodnight, Little Angel.
Ron Fan I read your post all the way through and Joe does indeed sound suspect What I don’t understand is how they cleared him afterward,sleeping in your clothes that are dirty with no shirt is a bit off.I also found it odd that the Timmy guy and his wife would pick up and leave in the midst of Haleigh coming up missing,I always found that strange.Looks like they were trying to stay ” out of sight out of mind”
What I am not understanding is why Misty would keep mum all this time.She cannot say she was”afraid” because we all know if she’d have come clean with whatever it was she knew from the beginning LE would have protected her, be it sending her into witness protection program or whatever else was needed.Either she wanted to keep playing house with Ron or she had some other involvement.Maybe Haleigh got into some drugs and OD’D and Misty had Timmy,Tommy and Joe hide her body?
WHo knows but the truth will all come out in due time as the iron is hot now.
I am not as quick as others to exclude Misty’s involvement because like I said “she could have told what she knew, but she chose not to” so in my eyes that makes her just as guilty as the kidnappers/murderers/who knows what else.
This goes for the entire Croslin Clan ,they all knew “something” it seems, yet everyone has covered each others asses instead of doing the right thing.
Beautiful: Dang! (Looks around sheepishly) I probably should have just kept on DL…..SHould have known ex-FBI and all. But hey, I was just trying to protect our board from maniacal ravings but found the opposite.
I don’t excuse any of them for hiding the facts of this case and causing LE to spend so much time and money on this case. The law is there for us to follow, and we can’t pick and choose our times when we need to follow the law. That includes Ronald, also. If everyone that had tragedy in their life went out and started selling drugs or breaking other laws, this country would be a mess.
Oh I’m sick….RR2 911 calls BOTH used Old SHell Harbour Rd as starting point….Ugghhh!!!
Did CJ confront them both about SHell HArbour Rd and it’s contents?
HollyG, are you thinking that perhaps someone was there for a possible dump/pick up?
Just that Misty told him ALL and her confronted them both and RR2 insued because of it. Remember CJ’s words about Ron & Misty? We all know you know what happened to Haleigh”
Misty confided then turned tail (Allegedly)
What is “rr2”? also what is “shell Harbor road”?
*He…he confronted them both (Speculation)
Road Rage incident #2. Shell is the center of the latest activity.
Old SHell Harbour and Shell HArbour connect….but only by dirt road.
Misty said in the interview, with her Mother sitting by her side, that ‘mine and Haleigh’s blankets where in the van that they took.’
Blankets were plural and so was the “they.”
Just saying.
Thank you Holly G!
Y/W
beautiful: Exactly!
misty was asleep in bed and had no knowledge of what happen that night. Just like the parents of polly klass and elizabeth smart, who were asleep when the abductions took place
Pray for Haleigh. Nite folks.
GREAT JOB…THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
GoodNight AnneInTn!!
The location is around Shell Harbour Road, close to where Misty Croslin’s parents lived on Magnolia Drive before Haleigh disappeared.
Her father, Hank Croslin Sr., said Overstreet had stayed at the residence before.
Lt. Johnny Greenwood of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office said the area hadn’t been search before.
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-04-13/story/authorities-conducting-haleigh-cummings-search
So was Misty’s letter shown on JVM or not?
Remember recently someone asking about Joe’s sister owning property nearby but not living there?
Kristy Overstreet
130 Magnolia Dr
Satsuma, FL 32189-3312
Very near search location
Not show…Levi read highlights of letter he claimed to have seen or was holding a copy of.
A tip led police to the search they are now conducting in the St. Johns River in Satsuma for the body of Haleigh Cummings, the 5-year-old girl who disappeared in February 2009.
Putnam County Sheriff’s officials on the scene declined to give any details on the tip or the person who gave it. However, they did say that they had physical evidence to support their search, although they did not provide details. At the scene in addition to Putnam County Sheriff’s deputies is a dive team from the Duval County Sheriff’s Office. Divers are using sonar to help in their search. Officials have said they plan to be at the scene all night if necessary
NewsJAX4
I think Ron was working undercover with LE to try and trap the Croslin family and look like he “was with Misty”
And I remember watching NG one night and the grandmother of Misty was on the phone wanting to know about a letter about Joe and seems Joe’s mother was at the house with the G Mother it was all strange the grandmother was very upset with Misty, and Misty was denying writing any letter. Sorry I can’t remember better but it just always stuck in my mind as strange.
OK Here’s a good question:
If JO did this to Haleigh and took her way without TC…Who told LE where to search? Certainly not JO. SO someone else had to have known where…TC? MIsty? I’m thinking without JO unless they are waiting for forensic evidence to pick him up…
So they arn’t searching all night as thought earlier the lights are to secure the sight till morning. Chanel 4 says that it’s not true that they have a suspect in custody but I think they are wrong wasn’t it the police saying yes a suspect was in custody on the news? I’ll have to find that now… maybe he was referring to Tommy is in jail
Anybody watching for MA bookings? Just curious…
Mapping to see Crescent City address against Search area…
BRB
it was reported by LE that the suspect in custody had nothing to do with the Haleigh case he was a sexual predator who had broken his curfew or something like that,was reported around 8pm.
Old Shell or SHell Harbour , both are definately “on your way” to Crescent City from 202 Green Ln
Did anyone see Johnny Sheffield at the PD?
DId TC or MIsty ever say:
“I think she’s close” or “Nearby?”
I know Misty kept insisting, almost too emphatically “I don’t think she’s dead…no, I don’t” “I won’t think that until they find her”
OOOpppSSS!
No cent…THe video I saw, I didn’t notice him.
Hi I love politeness but have seen how mean things can get in here. I hope I do not bring an onslaught of hostility on myself when I say to all of you “Ron fans”, I think you people are mindless to completely overlook or deny the Ron Cummings, “the REAL Ron Cummings, In His Element” on those drug sting videos.
To the one who recommended we watch the “Isn’t She Lovely” video some youtuber spliced together, watch the Drug Sting video where Ron is happily asking an undercover cop why he is sniffing his nose and, would it happen to be something “GOOD”? Cuz Ron LOVES to get high!
There is nothing redeeming about Ron Cummings, that I have seen.
Thanks.
Carl Brown who lives on Shell Harbour Road has heard many stories since he moved to the area about 18 months ago including one that Misty Croslin was seen in the area putting something in a garbage can after the disappearance of HaLeigh
Lynny… are you ready?
Grandma down there on Monday? WHich Gmom? GGMS like Mondex?
Ok…I give up…I gotta crash has been a long hard day…
See you all later today..
where can i find the pic of this blue ice chest thing they pulled out. someone said a plane flying over got a pic of them taking it out
HGM:
I don’t remember MC or RC ever saying they thought she was close by, but MC said on her voice analysis test, the last part of what you said.
http://haleigh-cummings.com-top-stories.info/haleigh-cummings-update-%E2%80%93-this-might-be-it/ seen this at twitter
There was a video of the ice chest as it was being pulled out of the water. I think you could go to firstcoastnews.com for that.
yea i can’t find it there are a lot of videos on that site just from the search today
I just remember Misty speaking to Hank about God not giving her the time/date when HaLeigh would be home (paraphrasing)!!
Cent:
I remember that. I wonder how she really feels about all of the lying a deceiving she has had to do to keep up this farce.
I am going to crash for the night, too. Tomorrow will be another big day, although a sad day considering what we are all waiting for. I am going to say a prayer for the families tonight.
Good night, Cent. Good night all.
Good-Night Karon!
I live in Nashvile/Antioch, TN area & found this on our local NBC affiliate.
CHECK IT OUT!
http://www.wsmv.com/video/23141651/index.html
Don’t close the door on Ron just yet. I still believe he has had knowledge of all of this. Stand by for news. JMO
Firstcoastnews
Authorities in Tennessee Question Misty Croslin’s Relative About Haleigh’s Disappearance
Thanks to HollyGMom for the awesome posts!!!!!
Agreed Poohpig. HollysGMom you are awesome
First Coast News states that Joe was questioned last night around 11:30pm and released hmmmmmm
I am not sure there is enough info to be blaming Timmy, Joe and Tommy for Haleigh’s demise like some are doing here.
Tommy may have given info, but NO one knows just what that info was or who it implicated.
I will keep an open mind till I know “real” facts about just what happened to Haleigh.
Miss Information said,in April 14th, 2010 at 5:23 am Don’t close the door on Ron just yet. I still believe he has had knowledge of all of this. Stand by for news. JMO
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Yeah, try to hang on to some sembalance of your idiocy and hatred. Well, he didn’t do it, so now he knew about it. GMAFB, he was AT WORK, he has no iea what whent on that night. You can stop grasping at straws now. He didn’t do it. Get over it.
I’m holding out till there is a body or proof so strong it can lead to only one thing.
Why does nobody beleive Tommy is the one that broke?? Because AH said it was him??
I listened very carefully last night to NG (gag) and AH, and I don’t think AH pointed the finger at anyone. He stated what “he heard” He made sure he didn’t implicate himself by saying untruths.
Tommy broke after the lie detector. I can believe that. If its true.
Lets “let up on AH”. The truth will be out shorly. My heart goes out to Ronald & Crystal.
No matter what there past is about, they didn’t deserve to lose their baby.
And if infact it went down like RUMORS are stating, where is cousin JOe now??
Mrs. Information,
I agree with you, I am not shutting him out of the loop I believe in my heart he has something to do with it. He had gone to get a tatoo and put his daughter past tense. Just cause your child ends up missing doenst mean you put them past tense or getting a tatoo. I know people do stupid things but come on not that. I have never seen or heard another person go get a tatoo after their child goes missing not knowing. Heck she could have been found alive and yet he still had a memory of his daughter graved in him.
He is guilty of leaving his children with a girl who went on a drug run. I believe he knows just like the rest of them, and I do not believe he will be getting off the drug charges either.
well.in the past I have said horrible things about Ronald Cummings , which I had no right to do , I have learned this ,
JUDGE NOT THAT YE BE NOT JUDGED
2 FOR WITH THAT JUDGEMENT YE JUDGE,
YE SHALL BE JUDGE:AND WITH THAT MEASURE YE METE, IT SHALL BE MEASURED TO YOU AGAIN ,
I apoligize from my heart ,I don’t know what happened to our little darling Haleigh , seems they are looking for a body ,I pray for her.
And ,As far as the one’s who may be responsible . their day will be here and they will pay
Karen and all others
No one is bashing at Ron its just our own opionion like you have your own as well. Stop being so darn mean we all come here for this little girl Haleigh and we all have our own opionion and believes there is no need to be ugly toward someone.
I do not hate Ron or Crystal. I feel sorry for those children. I do believe that Ron isnt so innocent only my own opionion. No one deserve to lose a child, I know that feeling all to well. I know what is feels like every single day of my life the for the last seven in half years it isnt easy by no means but you learn to adjust from it. But it is something you live with the rest of your life and yes the child can come into a dream to let the parents know they are safe.
For me I know Ron makes him look bad. Till he is cleared I still state wise. For someone to put their child in harms way, and neglecting his children. Leaving his child in the hands of someone who was on a drug run then comes back not knowing crap. I heard the comment where Ron, Misty and CJ said you know what happened to Haleigh. I am sure he knows what happened. He went out to get a tatoo and used his daughter’s name past tense if he didnt know that he wouldnt have. He kept putting her in the past instead of the future. I am no judge and He will have to face God one day to explain. But I do not support those who neglect, leave their children in danger and then get off. Yes, it is something he has to live with for the rest of his life but that is on him. He should have had his mom or grandmother watching his children for him. Could have or should have is alittle too late. But I still believe that he is involved JUST MY OPIONION and MY OPIONION ONLY. NO NEED TO BE UGLY WITH ME OR OTHERS IN REGARDS TO THIS.
So is this all going on at the same place they found NayNay’s keys? Where they used the van to pull her car out of the mud?
Art has new article up. And Steve Brown on news4jax…. Now I’m sick to my stomach.
kbrooks46, great post, thumbs up, I agree,
kbrooks46 @ April 14th, 2010 at 7:05 am You said: “…there is no need to be ugly toward someone.”
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Exactly. Would it exceed some peoples’ capacity (if they ever had any) to stop with the “ugliness” towards any and all members of Haleigh’s family right now?
At least until actual FACTS are known?
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I do not hate Ronald Cummings. Please do not judge me, you don’t even know me. I’m simply stating that in my opinion I don’t think he could be married to Misty and continue to be friends with Misty without having some knowledge. Seems to me that you are the one that is carrying some hate around by the sound of your post.
I am praying for all the INNOCENT members of the family. We just don’t know yet who all had knowledge.
I just watched the Steve Brown on Jax 4. WOW!!!
He says that he solved the case Monday and that they are looking for evidence in the river. Made it sound like it was more than one person and that Ron isn’t involved.
It is sad that WS bloggers in the BEGINNING kept mentioning Shell Harbor and that it was a possible location of interest, because it was the closet boat dock aside from Hermits Cove.
At the time WSer’s where aware that JS had a boat or access to a boat. The thought at that time was that after Haleigh was removed from the Cummings home was passed of to someone on a boat at the dock in Hermits Cove.
I am not accusing any one, just mentioning that it was a location that was discussed at great lengths in the beginning and that it is heart breaking that it is revealed now that it was a place that is of interst and never had been searched before.
By the way HGmom Great work!!!!!!
Don’t worry, Miss Information, kbrooks et al:
Even if R is proven to have had nothing to do with it and had NO way of knowing who did, nothing will prevent the R-haters from continuing to vent their spleen against R “for leaving Haleigh with M.”
I must assume that these same people also believe that Somer Thompson’s mother should be held accountable and in similar contempt for letting her children walk home from school with no adult supervision and Nadia’s parents should be held in equal contempt for letting her out on her own and Sarah Foxwell’s mother for temporarily dating an SO (and the list goes on and on). Hate knows no bounds. What a wonderful future you all have to look forward to! Unlimited outlets for your venom!
James Brown he solved the case. OHHH okay. He had no help from law enforcement Tommy or Misty. OHHH okay what a load of BS…
Not James “STEVE” sorry
It doesn’t make sense to me for LE to keep it close to the vest if most of the players are in jail and if they did let Joe go after questioning last night.
Really? LE went to Mr. Reporter and said, “Mr. Reporter, I have big news that everyone following the Haleigh Cummings case will want to hear. I’m going to give you this information, Mr. Reporter, but please don’t tell anyone.”
hmmmmm
M2C,
Let me make myself clear…. I HAVE NO HATE IN MY BODY FOR NO ONE……………….. I JUST DISAGREE WITH PEOPLE’S BEHAVIOR AND I HAVE MY OWN OPINION JUST LIKE YOU DO. I AM NOT bashing you for having your opinion for supporting RON.
I just disagree cause he has drug dealer himself put his daughter and son in harms way. He thens made threats through 911 which is natural makes him look good, but then puts a headless rat in the mail box, then the road rage then putting his daughter past tense. How does he know his daughter wasnt coming back? He then gets a tatoo as in memory of his daughter. To me yes it makes his butt look bad.
As for Somer and Nadia all the other missing children you cant control the outside idiots out there who takes children. I feel bad for both parents. Nadia was found in the woods alive THANK GOD. Nadia’s case was much different no one took her she went out camping in the woods she just got lost. As for Somer the sex offender was at fault, we need to put all these sex offenders away in a building by themselves where they cant get to our children.
But there has been parents who have murder their own children too I have no respect for them.
As for the lady who dated a sex offenders, women need to be smart and start looking their men up on a background check. Yes it can be done I has a single mom in the past have looked up and did back ground check on men. Cause I have a son that is important to me. You can get it done…
I do have a wonderful good heart and God knows my heart…..I believe in time justice will be served if not here on earth but in heaven.
I milled all the info put out yesterday through my mind last night and early this morning, trying to get visual in my mind of misty, tommy and joe all together in that trailer.. Joe is angry and can’t find the gun.. so he grabs Haleigh and runs.. isn’t that the tale??
Well, when did he have time to put the knife to misty’s throat, or hold a gun on Tommy, before he grabbed Haleigh and ran? If thats the case, they both stood there and watched him pick up Haleigh and leave the trailer?? Well, how would they know where he dumped Haleigh’s body??
Did they follow him?? If everyone of their phones are still tapped, and their email and their texting.. How could they have discussed this later?? So, how would they know where Haleigh was dumped?? Why would they have allowed this to occur.. Gheez, Joe is not that big.. Tommy could have taken him down.. Heck misty and her temper knife or no knife could have have made an impact… I’m sorry guys, none of this makes any sense to me.. I can’t see this guy grabbing Haleigh up in the middle of the night, and running with her and her not reacting.. no screaming, kicking, twisting to get away from him, while he has a gun and knife in his hand and a struggling child??
The fat lady in my mind, has stopped humming and she’s just milling around looking to see if she has sheet music hidden in the attic…
Something is off and I am fully aware that this case is in investigation mode, but, why the secrets? How will telling who gave a tip comprimise the investigation? Why would family be asked not to comment on the meeting with JH if it was just to advise them of the search and LE commitment to keep searcing until they find HaLeigh?
How did SS know the nightbefore at around 8:52pm (myspace) what was going on if LE stated they contacted CS to notify the family about the search from LE instead of the Media?
That fat lady has laryngitis from all her warming up over the last 14 months.
Texasmommy:
there is a possibility that important evidence may be in other areas unknown to LE at this time, and if someone gets scared off, that evidence could very well disappear.
just a possibility.
I just understand why he wanted to take Haleigh it doesnt make no sense at all. To me its bs. I believe there is more to the story.
I havent heard there has been arrested I read that Joe was questioned then released since last night from what one of the news is reporting.
There are so many lies that no one can tell the truth unless it smacks them in the face. I just would like to have the truth on what happened to this little girl. I dont care about Ron, Misty, Crolins family.
My main concern is finding that precious little girl Haleigh and justice to be in take on the right person. As for Ron he will have to live the rest of his life that his own punishment. But if he has involvement he should be held accountable. His behavior left said makes everyone question.
I have heard the Cummings family listed that met with LE yesterday but have not heard anything about who all in the Sheffield/Griffis family came aside from CS and SS. Can anyone direct me to any legitiment sources that would give us that information? I just find it wierd that all we have heard about is the Cummings and Croslins reactions and NON ability to comment when asked questions yesterday by reporters and no one from the S/G families was mentioned from all that I have read.
my feeling is that there are people who are so fixated on their own self-importance, that they do not give a whit if their “breaking news” denies HaLeigh of the justice she deserves.
and I do believe they are fully aware that they will be compromising the investigation.
HGmom what is your opinion on BL DD’s now?
kbrooks46 said,in April 14th, 2010 at 8:27 am I just understand why he wanted to take Haleigh it doesnt make no sense at all. To me its bs. I believe there is more to the story
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We have not been getting the real story since the begining and neither has LE. No arrests as of this morning and we have a confession, that leads to evidence?
Texasmommy. I saw Marie and Crystal on some of the clips of the news media. They were crying.
I believe both sides of Haleighs family are grieving.
I am not sure of what happened that night to our little Angel, but I think there has to be more than just taking someones child over a gun!! Joe may have threatened Misty and Tommy, but he left the area the same day! Misty could of told then and this all would have been over along time ago! Misty and Tommy would have been protected as well as their family. Something just don’t set right with the details coming out right now.
Texas Mom
There is video of Crystal and family coming out of the building after talking to LE. But no one from my crystal family was asked any questions after exiting the building. If they were I haven’t seen or heard anything.
What are you thinking that happened ? Who through who under the bus?
Texas Mom
There is video of Crystal and family coming out of the building after talking to LE. But no one from crystal’s family was asked any questions after exiting the building. If they were I haven’t seen or heard anything.
What are you thinking that happened ? Who through who under the bus?
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/haleigh-cummings-grandmother-says-she-believes-misty-croslin.html
I watched Nancy G. last night only because I heard there was some activity in this case. They kept showing this blue ice chest. Honestly, that could be anyone’s ice chest. It’s a boat ramp for goodness sake. You don’t go out on a boat trip without food and at least water, so everyone takes an ice chest. Why NG would focus on that is anyone’s guess, but I believe it is called sensationalism. I’m not saying the “tip” is not valid, but to lead people to believe that Haleigh’s body is in that ice chest when you really don’t know for sure is just plain careless.
If you go to CNN and view the top video about missing Haleigh under the “justice” section you can hear AH dropping names all over the place. Again, sensationalism. It’s a — I want to get my name as a reporter out there so I don’t care what others think–approach. It’s not care and concern for Haleigh and those of us who have been praying for this little girl and her family.
As far as whether or not the person we are all thinking of doing this and it not making sense…if you are hopped up on drugs you do things that don’t make sense to other people. Like starving your children for example, so on and so forth.
m2c – it is one thing for a child to be taken from a bus stop, walking to school, an SO sneaking in and snatching them….that happens and I don’t fault the parent.
But I don’t see how you find Ron so innocent in all of this. It was HIS choice to bring a druggie teenager into his home and leave his children in her care KNOWING what she was all about AND it was THAT babysitter that brought her druggie thieving psycho family into Haleigh’s life…that in turn ENDED her life. Ron made HORRIBLE choices. His own drug use clouded his judgment. YES, he loved his kids but not enough to fly straight and clean up his act. He PUT his children in danger with his lifestyle and actions and so he does NOT get a “get out of jail free” card from me. He is a criminal plain and simple. Did he kill his child? NO! If he had made better life choices would Haleigh still be alive? YES!
Do I think Ron should be charged with a crime for what happened to Haleigh? No. But he DID endanger his children no matter what you try to say otherwise….and that IS a crime. But I do believe Ron has suffered enough at this point. He was caught selling drugs, obviously was doing drugs and now he has to pay for those choices. He is looking healthy now and I PRAY that he will get his life together so when he does get out of jail he can be the father Jr. deserves.
Now I know you don’t agree with anything I’ve said and I’m not trying to pick a fight but there are MANY of us who feel this way so like it or not, it is our opinion and we’re not going away. (Going back to the dog house now.)
kbrooks46…perfectly stated. I couldnt have said it better myself. The amount of different stories and rumors is insane.
@TexasMommy39
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?aid=176937&storyid=154683#/News/Haleigh+Cummings%27+Family+Leaves+Sheriff%27s+Office/50619441001/50624658001/77863874001
Probably going to have to cut and past the link, but this shows everyone cumming out..
including JS and connie and marcus.. TN, Crystal and JJ, CS and SS.. two women, I haven’t figured out who they are.. And marie, chloe and Bruce… Oh yes, Ron escorted across the parking lot..
I am here now at th site. Tons of activity early this morning. They won’t let me through but I’m inching closer.
You can say you are “here for Haleigh” but as long as you are bashing one of her parents you are not here for her. You are here to spew your own hateful venom. Haleigh loved her Father, he had nothing to do w/ he disappearence and I am sure she would be devestated to know the way some of you have spoken of her Father. So if you are truly “here for Haleigh” stop bashing her Father.
kbrooks46 – in April 14th at 8:11 am –
I am not nor have I ever “supported” R or anyone else near Haleigh’s disappearance. I have made every effort to stem the hatred, wild speculation, blindness to facts on the part of some and the totally unfounded accusations against R (for example) in order to try to encourage some level of decency toward all members of Haleigh’s family while keeping open minds about what may have happened to her.
For some people there can only be a “for or against” attitude. (Hence people assuming that I support R). That attitude is a product of ignorance, base prejudice, and misplaced ego (among a number of other sick characteristics). IMO
looking for Justice said,in April 14th, 2010 at 8:41 am Texasmommy. I saw Marie and Crystal on some of the clips of the news media. They were crying.
I believe both sides of Haleighs family are grieving.
I am not sure of what happened that night to our little Angel, but I think there has to be more than just taking someones child over a gun!! Joe may have threatened Misty and Tommy, but he left the area the same day! Misty could of told then and this all would have been over along time ago! Misty and Tommy would have been protected as well as their family. Something just don’t set right with the details coming out right now.
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Thank you, May I ask who was all with CS?
The Real Armando said,
in April 14th, 2010 at 8:54 am
I am here now at th site. Tons of activity early this morning. They won’t let me through but I’m inching closer.
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Keep us updated please
This is not adding up. Misty is putting up missing posters with Joe the next morning. All she had to do is give him up. Something is missing. Joe and Timmy did leave town so that does have to make you wonder but Misty not telling does not make sence unless she was covering for Tommy. I still think her commitment to Ron is too deep but maybe she did this out of fear of losing Ron. Hopefully we will have answers soon.
Thanks Real Armando. I am curious what the locals are saying. It has to be a relief for them to finally have some closure.
protectkidz said,in April 14th, 2010 at 8:26 am Texasmommy:
there is a possibility that important evidence may be in other areas unknown to LE at this time, and if someone gets scared off, that evidence could very well disappear.
just a possibility.
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I believe you are right. Even TN this morning is still believing/hoping HaLeigh is alive.
m2c♥ said,in April 14th, 2010 at 8:57 am kbrooks46 – in April 14th at 8:11 am –
I am not nor have I ever “supported” R or anyone else near Haleigh’s disappearance. I have made every effort to stem the hatred, wild speculation, blindness to facts on the part of some and the totally unfounded accusations against R (for example) in order to try to encourage some level of decency toward all members of Haleigh’s family while keeping open minds about what may have happened to her.
For some people there can only be a “for or against” attitude. (Hence people assuming that I support R). That attitude is a product of ignorance, base prejudice, and misplaced ego (among a number of other sick characteristics). IMO
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Amen.
@jessicamlnh21, I will look for the video, but the size of the item would be too small for Haleigh to have been bunched up in.. Its not one of the large ones, its the mediam size water cooler..
None of us are bashing Ron. Stating that we dont think anyone is totally innocent in this including Ron does not mean he is being bashed.
In one of the interviews of a fish and wildlife person he said the cooler was a tool used in the search.
Joe Overstreet attorney speaks.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/a/u/1/TLmqcSbnnno
ky mom said,in April 14th, 2010 at 8:43 am Texas Mom
There is video of Crystal and family coming out of the building after talking to LE. But no one from crystal’s family was asked any questions after exiting the building. If they were I haven’t seen or heard anything.
What are you thinking that happened ? Who through who under the bus?
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Good morning, I am still just seeking answers.
I find it odd that what we know about the events yesterday and the facts as of this moment are
LE is looking for a paticular vehicle.
There has been no arrest in connection to HaLeighs abduction.
Joe was questioned and went home after cooperating and is willing to be available for future questioning.
Misty was brought to PC for questioning but not Tommy.
Someone working for TC attorney supposedly helped (clear or convict) his employers in regards to a client that he will not be representing in the HaLeih Cummings case in the future.
Does this make any sense? I know nothing has since the beginnig why should we expect any different now.
Get a load of Joe’s mom, dirty hair, bad teeth, can’t speak. Oh sorry, didn’t mean to offend most of you here.
I think it is anger and frustration…not hatred. I don’t hate Ron. I think his actions and choices set the ball in motion and led to Haleigh’s death. Is he criminally responsible? No. Is he morally responsible IN MY EYES, YES. And before you start in on me about Crystal, if Haleigh had disappeared from Crystal’s house I would be scrutinizing her lifestyle, drug use and any criminal activity just as closely.
This is no different than any of the other cases where the mother has some druggie boyfriend living with her that beats or kills her child and EVERYONE jumps on the mother because she CHOSE to have that person around her child KNOWING he was a druggie, knowing his background and it cost her child their life. I too get frustrated with all these cases of children dying NOT by the hand of a stranger but by the hand of someone in the family OR brought into the inner circle by the family. It goes back to choices. If you want to hang out with druggies and criminals, go for it BUT if you have children and you make the choice to have druggies, criminals, violent people, etc., around and even babysit your children then perhaps you SHOULD be charged with a crime….as long as it can be proven you were FULLY aware of this person’s background, drug use, criminal behaviors, etc.
Ultimately, it is a parent’s job to protect their children. Can you keep them from falling off the swing, skinning their knee, wrecking their bike…..not always. You can’t always protect them but you wouldn’t try to teach your child to ride a bike on a busy highway. You wouldn’t give them a set of sharp knives to hold and send them out to play on the trampoline. But when you invite SO’s, druggies, violent criminals, etc., into your children’s lives, that is exactly what you are doing and it is WRONG! Ron was WRONG to bring Misty into his home and into his children’s lives. Do I hate Ron? NO. Do I pity him now. Very much so. Does my heart hurt for him and his loss. You bet. Do I also find him partially responsible for this disaster? Yes I do.
did R.C have A MISSING ‘cooler” for Ice & beer .food etc , likewise ,Sindee had a Laundry bag missing from her home ?
yes I heard N.G yapping about the “cooler ‘ yep we all need them to go camping why was there one in the lake beats me, unless some guy got mad and threw it in the water ,it didn’t keep his beer cool enough ,????
I wish I could post pics. Some reporter was just taken in hand cuff. He was screaming to th cops “u guys r assholes for not letting us get closer” th argument increased. He’s gone!
I spoke to a few of th locals. And they’re all on pins and needles. Alot of th residents didn’t get much sleep do to th Activity going on. So now they want answers.
I’m doing all this on my phone and I have to scroll for minutes before I can post a comment. So sry if I misspelled anything.
I’ll keep u all up on th latest on my part.
Thnk u Haleigh for th valuable lessons u have taught me.
Blessings
Simon,an Jan,Thanks for all the decent work you do.An the reports you give to us.I thank TJ,an Cobra ,an all who have worked with you on this case.I dont like people coming here an being nasty to the You are Jan,or to the bloggers,or each other for that matter..How very rude to come to your site,an ridicule you.If i were you ,i would block them for ever,from comming to your site.. I have been at TCD for a long time following the Caylee case.Untill one of my friends there told me of this site a while back.She knew i had been following this case,sence the beginning.An that site owner.Poofs any rude behaviour.Mostly when one blogger is rude to another.An doesnt stop with one warning.
I have found more here on this case,than on any site.All those who helped you with getting this story out.I truly thank them.An you for how you place it on these threads,its inlightning to get good reporting.
I talk to the Father of Misty an have for awhile.But i dont repeat what we always speak about.Because its not something were suppose to do.Like when someone ask you no to,or like I want to beable to contenue to talk to them,an TN when i can get through to her to offer any help i can give.An you upheld that you wouldnt speak,untill it was released for you,or anyone to.Thats decency,those who run wih every thing they hear,are just in it for the gossip.An limelight lol like LP,AN you know who??lol .
Just like you knew that PCSO did not want any leaks at this time.An you were decent enough not to want to break what confidence they put into you.Where others just wanted to look like they were the only one who knew..That just makes me feel ill.Because it could actualy cause that old woman,or who ever tiped the sherrif office about this.It could cause that person to maybe get harmed,or disappear.Who knows in this case.So you did right,in keeping the silence.,an i thank you for it.Hank couldnt even tell when i spoke to him yesterday Sherriffs orders.Neither did Mrs Sykes,as we saw on tv.
But then we have some who care about putting it out more than they cared about Haliegh being found.An for that greed of being known as the one who broke the tipsters story,with out getting approval to do it,needs to face conciquences.
Chelsea wasnt giving exclusives,the 2 men who Kept calling her an Lindsey were reporting many things she did not say,an she went as far as to get a order to stop the calls from comming to her.Yes she has suspected Joe from the beginning.An said she had a suspect in mind.But many family members would never have believed Tom had any involvment.An if MC broght it up they all though she was crazy,an lieing on that part.Lindsey has been the mouth,because she knew she had lied on some subjects.Chelesa keeps in touch with Lindsey,an what she talked with her Lindsey spread.Chelsea,needed some one to share what she thought happened,with the van.But they all used her an twisted what she spoke to them about.So they now cant contact her,or they will go to jail.An LP,has been caught in several lies,as others have.They were calling these girls Chelsie didnt know they were reporting on things she may have talked to them about,nor did she know they were twisting what she did say,untill she was imformed what was written on her..
I pray today is fruitful.no matter how we all would hate it,if this is the last place Haliegh was placed.These families need closure.Bless Butter beans heart his sissy may be may be gone for good.
As a believer,at least i know she was innocent,an is with Jesus,if she is truly deceaced,an it looks like she maybe,Shes with all the little ones who went before,an after her.She will never have to suffer again,an is now loved with a pure love.A Holy love.A unconditional Love.
That’s a good question BarbyD….or does TC have a missing cooler, because that is where JO was staying.
Stephaine and JB very true.
I am only here for HALEIGH…Only this precious little girl who should be found and brought home.
I am NOT HERE FOR RON OR THAT CLAN…. THESE CHILDREN ARE THE INNOCENT ONES IN THIS WHOLE MATTER.. I AM HERE FOR THE CHILDREN..
I HAVE MY OWN OPINION AND MY OWN OPINION… JUST LIKE YALL HAVE YALLS…
Texasmommy, I just saw Crystal and Marie. There were other people, but I do not know their names. I do not even remember what Chad looks like.
The cooler is a tool used in the search http://www.news4jax.com/video/23141364/index.html
Wow. Some people’s need to be right trumps everything. Even the (God forbid death of a poor innocent little girl.
I don’t know why I am having a hard to believing this is real. It was what I was afraid of all along. I wish bio-mom had kidnapped her and she was safe and in school today. 🙁
TexasMommy… I posted a link above@9:10 with more footage of the family members… If it’s not showing go to Firstcoastnews.
Did you see @ 9:16 am.
Where did that rude comment come from?
Sounds like Joe’s mom fits in with the Croslin family…not my blogger news family!
I’m right there with you Shockwave, I don’t believe this. I think Hank is trying to get out of jail. Did they do the lie detector on him after his confession of seeing the body being dumped? Did they test that statement? They won’t find a body, it just doesn’t make sense that Misty wouldn’t call 911 directly after he left If Tommy did witness her being dumped then he’s going down as accesory. I hope they all go to jail for the rest of their lives for not telling right off. Police could have gotten to her before she was killed. If Tommy witnessed the body being dumped he seen her get killed. Misty tried to protect Tommy by saying he left first then Joe took Haleigh but if Joe threatened him, he had to be there. No I think he was pondering joining Misty’s version to get out of jail and after talking to his dad and not getting a big reaction from his dad he knew it was the thing to do.
Pls keep those candles burning with prayers.
Haleigh has taught us all how to b better parents for our kids.
I agree with th top statement. I am only here for Haleigh” very well said!
God bless all of you and th children u protect.
JB @ 9:16:am ,<
hopefully there will be fingerprints or something on the cooler ,,tks , shockwave it was just a thought , we have a large one for campingc not sure of the size its locked away in shed, great for my Man’s beer ,
Whatever happened to Kayleah Wilson, she was walking to a birthday party and never arrived! You know the 11 year old that was dating a 17 year old! That alone is sick! I can’t imagine why her parents allowed it or why the boy wanted it! Unfortunately it seems that she was unsupervised even by her parents
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in April 14th, 2010 at 9:30 am TexasMommy… I posted a link above@9:10 with more footage of the family members… If it’s not showing go to Firstcoastnews
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Thank you
this all could be a red herring..tommy told his wife “they want me to say Joe did it”..remember that? Well he just might has said to hell with it told LE what they wanted to hear.
None of this makes sense unless Misty was not there. Ron couldn’t get a hold of her, called her brother to go check on her — he found she wasn’t there. He then mentions it to Joe and then they decide to go steal the guns — that’s when Joe takes Haleigh. Misty comes home just before she knows Ron is going to be there and finds the door open. It is the only thing that makes sense to me. Just sayin
TexasMommy.. You’re welcomed! Did the link show up?
Jan 57
You know I love reading your post they really do show your kind heart. I am glad that The Cummings and Croslins are keeping it queit and was wondering if you would know if all of HaLeighs family was in attendance yesterday and if you could help me out with who was not. TIA. I will understand if you choose not to answer.
Didn’t Misty go and stay with their GMa for a while during the investigation?
I find it hard to believe that with Misty’s latest “story” that she alleges that she confided in no one about any of it until here recently. Not even with family members who would possibly know and understand her fears if they were real. Big bad Joe right?
Joe looks like a squirrely wannabe looking guy imo. Prolly does drugs but no proof of that to say for sure. Between Joe and Tommy I’d say Tommy could have took Joe and rolled him up like a rolly poley to be quite honest.
Would have been easy pickens for Tommy too especially when Joe was out there putting up Haleigh’s missing posters.
Did either Tommy or Misty ask Joe where Haleigh was then?
Oh wait! That’s right! They were too skerred of Joe then.
Sorry. Not buying it.
jmvho
cent I am checking it now. I am trying to do 5o things at once this morning and blog. I have to get on the road in an hour.
They are looking for 2 key pieces of evidence to charge the person with murder.
Tuff, I do not buy it either. What is up with this van they are looking for? A 1990’s grey Chevy van in the area recently? If Haleigh was suppose to be have discarded there 14 months ago why are they concrned about this van in the area recently?
poohpig said,in April 14th, 2010 at 9:55 am They are looking for 2 key pieces of evidence to charge the person with murder.
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Who is “the person”?
Shockwave–I share your view on 9:26 post. I shared that theory all along because it kept that beautiful child alive. Now it seems that Haleigh has been “gone” since that night and people let the families suffer for over 14 months by keeping their silence. I say if several people knew all along what happened charge them with obstruction. Its a shame!
I’m in Arkansas so not getting a lot of info on Haleigh. Does anyone that is close to the case know where I can get up to date info. I tried to find tv station but nothing new about it this morning. Thank you inadvance.
Haleigh’s candle site. Please light a candle for Justice.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC
new post from TJ!
Where is everybody?
LFJ I’m not sure about the van they are looking for or where that information is coming from or why just yet either.
looking for Justice said,in April 14th, 2010 at 10:00 am Tuff, I do not buy it either. What is up with this van they are looking for? A 1990’s grey Chevy van in the area recently? If Haleigh was suppose to be have discarded there 14 months ago why are they concrned about this van in the area recently?
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Thats what I would like to know.
Hi everyone, good to see the gang. Great breaking news, still a mystery, but thank goodness we’re getting something and moving forward now.
We should learn very soon who is the suspect/suspects, those culpable and those possible accessories, if they exist. I agree with everyone, the theory of Tommy and MIsty stood by out of fear for Joe and watched him take/harm Haleigh is a hard story to believe for me.
Don’t think it went down quiet like that, on top of Misty and Tommy not telling anyone til now. Joe does look like the type to commit such a crime against a little girl and her family. But with LE releasing him yesterday alongside his attorney makes you wonder what’s up.
Bless all of Haleigh’s family, they’ve been through too much. No one deserves this kind of victimization, regardless of their choices. Blame the criminals.
Hey Texasmommy39
tommy put LE on a wild goose chase..LE brought in misty yesterday to cosign his story but she said “I already told you, I was asleep”
Logical conclusion? I hope it is not “Misty and Joe killed her and Misty has been keeping it a secret. Tommy left and does not know anything. Yes he lead to the location of the girl but that’s because he does not know anything he left. Misty did come forward repeatedly about Joe and Tommy only to be attacked and yes people do lead Police to the killers to cover their self exposing things is a good way to keep secrets. Le interviewed Tommy and held in high light that is because he does not know anything it’s Misty. Yes she was repeatedly attacked by LE and her family for mentioning Tommy and put down on Art Harris by Lindsy called a liar by Nancy Grace but we can’t imagine why she would start to become reluctant in saying things almost like for some unexplainable reason she started to not trust people. That is a mystery for even the highest educated to figure out why but it had nothing to do with being attacked, put down, and made an absolute fool of, no no no no no….that is just not logical. What is logical is that in America if a person goes to sleep and a child goes missing from their home that is not possible and who ever was there could not sleep through it they know something….. all those other cases they never happened. Is it possible Tommy Croslin is a manipulator and with that he seen what LE wanted to hear so he gave them that no no no no. The best of the best are working on this and the logical conclusion is NO that is not possible. Did LE blame this girl, did LE refuse to hear her, call her liar when it came to Joe, and Tommy, hold weight in Tommy, and attack her Yes, because it was the logical thing to do. did LE mess it up No Misty knew and Joe did it and Tommy does not know.”
I hope that is not what Jeff Hardy considers a logical conclusion. I don’t know that he is open and or strong enough to see his own mistakes and what he has done. I would be concerned once again they will only hear what they want to hear and as result Justice for Haleigh will not be. With that said the logical conclusion given the results Putanm Le has come to thus far in the investigation is to let some one else speak with Misty and the others. Putnam LE has been so judgmental and attacking I don’t know logically speaking that they can recover from it enough to have enough trust in those they need it from to get all the answers.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
When I found this website, it was from a Google search where Simon had posted the article “How many Croslins can you fit under a bus?” I went back and read over that article. Makes you take a different look at some things that give you a new “ah-ha” moment, eh?
Posted from Simon’s blog on 9/22/09————-
Well we can always start with Cousin Joe (Joe Overstreet). Cousin Joe seems to have a somewhat checkered past his rap sheet is extensive burglaries and thefts being his specialty, and my sources are telling that along the was he managed to commit some sort of sexual offense. Cousin Joe was one of the first to be thrown under the bus by the rest of the family. To assist in the character assassination Tommy Croslin and Ronald Cummings have reportedly said that Cousin Joe liked to watch the alligators devour deer and other animals, he thought it was cool!
Next up is brother Tommy, he initially was thrown under the bus by Misty over the fist fight with Ronald Cummings, an event that likely sparked Ratgate. Misty obtaining the Restraining order against him ensured a reserved spot under the bus. Then, in a lemming like action threw himself back under the bus by getting arrested on the theft and gun charges.
Misty Croslin is of course a founding member of the under the bus gang. Virtually all of the family members at one time or another has thrown her under it. The latest being Tommy with his revelation that she was not home on the night Haleigh went missing. Misty also shares Tommy’s Lemming like traits and has thrown herself under the bus on numerous occasions
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If Misty was asleep then how did she offer up this info before Tommy? She said that Tommy left and then Joe took Haleigh. How would she know this if she were asleep? Misty has known since this little ANGEL went missing. Misty did not call for help so therefore she is just as guilty along with Tommy. I believe this story has more too it and did not quite go down like they said.
Lindsey now has her name as Lindsy Collins on her myspace wonder what is up with that?
Even if LE ignored Misty’s Joe direction in the beginning, why did she get on national TV and cast blame towards Crystal’s family? Not only did she do that, she did it confidently.
To my knowledge anything Misty may have said to the investigators was not released, so OJ how do you know Mistys response?
I OBVIOUSLY don’t know l4j..that is my surmise
OJ ,I am glad to know it was only your surmise. Your post sounded a little more like stating fact as if you knew first hand.
Two items that need to be found and they are not Haleigh. Maybe the yellow rope stated on NG last night? But what else? The blanket? Clothing or murder weapon? jmo
Were prints ever taken on the gun that was found in the ditch and if so who’s prints were on that gun?
I do NOT think Joe Overstreet is the culprit here. He would have already been arrested. The FBI was at his home in Antioch, TN yesterday and no arrest. Also, there is a pic of he and Misty posting “Haleigh Missing” fliers. Allegedly, he left town the day after Haleigh went “missing”.
I doubt it Tuff… remember the incident never happened per Ron. Of course it never was reported to LE. IMO!!
Beautiful, you are correct Ron did say that the fight never happened. He also said that the cousin was not there that night on NG. There is still alot of questions to answered. I just think there is more to this story.
Ok so Scott Brown has been CS PI for the last 10 months.
Would he have access to anyone in Jail for a eyewitness confession?
He has more than one eyewitness.
It sounds like to me they are totally implicating JO. The FBI investigator implied that the person to be arrested is someone who has already been interviewed and possibly from out of state. The only other person that fits the bill as far as being out of state that I am aware of is Timmy.
The reason no one has been arrested at this point is because they do not have those two missing pieces of evidence. Did Timmy move up North after Haleigh went missing, or sometime before? We know they also did a search at his home.
JO attorney seems to believe J is innocent and Misty’s attorney claims she is innocent so I will assume that their clients did not confess to Scott Brown. So who are these eyewitnesses that confessed?
I want to know why was Scott Brown such a secret yesterday and today he is on camera and telling what LE did not want told?
Texasmommy39-see Simon’s latest post on April 14th for the answer you are looking for.
I cant understand for the life of me, how so many ppl cud just take what Tommy says verbatim.. Like it is the long awaited truth???????????? Thankfully not everyone is.. hopefully LE are considering the source also..
He is a known liar.. He is te one who has been inconsistent..
He is the one who placed himself at the crime scene where he said there was no movement in the house at 10 pm (which actually corroborates what Misty has said all along)…
Now he has led LE to where it is alleged physical evidence has been found….
If this is accurate, this means that not only has he placed himself at the crimsescene but also at haleighs horrible grave…
If it is true that he was threatened by Joe with a gun, why wud he have been in the woods at the river?
Why wud Misty have gone on live media outlets over and over again sharing her suspicions of Joe and Tommy ?????
Why wud she have been at her grammas in Ten in the following Oct only blocks away from Joe?
Why wud she have not told this story to LE when we saw how uncontollable and hysterical she was upon being arrested ??
Why does Tommy have all the answers?????
It seems like it is what is is… If they find Haleigh’s remains where Tommy has led them….
If it walks like a duct ……….
Most of the media has been an iresponsible facilitator in jumping way too quick, and being led with many fales allegations against about a young girl, where the general public has been (way too easily ) sold …
We are doing the same thing again with the latest story…
I ask… why take Tommys word at face value???
He is a lying criminal… and has proven this by his admittd inconsistencies…
Misty has been consistent from the start yet, the media still wants to use her as the villainess …so much that the likes of NG ( an apparant horrible armchair detective) cant even call this latest info right?????????
I dont get it……
Looks like Mrs Lindsay Croslin who appears to have gone bak to her maiden name and fled.. Looks like she is smarter than was given credit for…yet seems protective of Misty….
Just sayin…
Mistys first LDT was inconclusive.Maybe she still storied a we bit.She may still have not been home,an knew they were planning to take the gun.So she left for a bit,an when she returned she found the door blocked,an Haliegh gone.Took test ,no lies seen.Or she could have slept through it,an to make them believewhat she said,an it seems to have been true.( she told she saw it.)
Then Tom told her later that he was there but went home,an Joe took Haliegh. Then came the TM LDT,an she failed.That when she brought up about thinking Tom,an Joe had been there to the man we saw giving her the test.
So all along she didnt know for sure about Tom total involvment,so she lied because she didnt want to hurt her family,an Surly didnt want to hurt Ron,an also knew Joe was gone but Tom had children to an Just was to scared to tell on him,because he may would hurt her,an we know she doesnt trust the law,thats been bread in her.She loves Tom but finaly told.Misty knew Chelsea was suspicious of Joe to, So she wrote Chelsea,an tried to explain what happened, they didnt want to believe about Tom even then. She also said they were probably smoking crack,in the woods.I know Crack smokers some times men have strange sexual things going on in their head,an those to could have just–well i hate to say it ,but why else would grown men take a little girl.
OMG!! my head hurts every few theres infighting.This is about Haliegh,being found.Then the people who are involved.For someone comming by to read to find a glimmer of news,or help.,they have to weed through all the bull,to get to a few good insites from Bloggers.Stress is high.But this is truly rediculas.An i havent stated any names Go back an read,an all can see the few who keep being nasty.Its so uncalled for at a serious painful time as this.
Fed up with the Misty fest said.
Very well written,an my feling to.All along MC has said things,an people booed her,yet they took up for TC,an thought he was a good boy,just strung out on pills,even that crazy LP thought it to.If they would have listened to MC all along they would have followed the trail,to what she said.Im so over NG tabloid rude behaviour.
reading the last few blogs about mist being thrown under the bus might be true, she has at one time or another been thrown under the bus by family members like the mom lisa saying at one time “misty knows something and so does ron”she said that on video, wonder why?anyway, ther is no telling about that family!
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