Friday marks the fourth day that Law Enforcement is searching an area of The St. Johns river some 5 miles from the trailer that Haleigh Cummings called home.
Police divers are scouring the river for any evidence connected to the missing child. On the ground reports are that the media is very much still present. The police are keeping them some distance from the actual search area and this has led to a couple of testy moments.
The major event on Wednesday was the police bringing Misty Croslin to the site. They spent some time standing on the boat dock talking. HLN is claiming that on several occasions she gestured towards the water. However the 20 second video clip that was replayed about 10 gazillion times on HLN last night did not show her doing that. I find that odd,I would have thought that if they had captured such a ‘Bombshell’ event they would have wanted to air it.
Obviously the video was taken by a helicopter from a distance away, however some analysis shows some interesting features by their omission. It is hard to identify some in the group, but clearly there was a handcuffed Misty Croslin. We think that the tall gentleman to the right is Major Gary Bowlen of the PCSO. The rest we are not so sure about.
OK, so what is missing in the video? There are two people that I would have expected to see but do not. I personally would have expected Capt Dominic Piscatello to have been involved. The real shocker though is the absence of Misty’s lawyer Robert Fields. I find it inconceivable that he would not have wanted to be present at such an event. I mentioned this fact to a journalist friend of mine who closely follows the case, he too found it odd. But he also pointed out that in the past Misty Croslin has gone ‘rogue’. Doing things against the judgment of her council.
Clearly the visit to the site was not just an opportunity for Misty Croslin to stretch her legs and get some fresh air. She was there for a purpose, but what might it have been? I know that many readers will go ‘well that’s obvious’. Actually it is not so obvious as one might think. I posed the question to my journalist friend, I rather liked his answer.
I believe there were two reasons, firstly they wanted to scare the cr@p out of her, and secondly they wanted to scare the cr@p out of her.
This actually makes good sense. The police clearly are taking this search very seriously.
Once again it is time to revisit the activities on the evening that Haleigh Cummings went missing. Due to my internet connection being down and AT&T dragging their heels to fix it, time is on my hands to reflect on that night.
I am not sure where I picked up this gem, but recently I read the phrase ‘there is truth in every lie’. This is a very deep and meaningful statement. If you think back over the last 14 months the police have been firm in their stance that this was no stranger abduction. That means that whatever happened was by a family member or a friend.
14 months is a long time to keep a story straight, the problem is how to determine the nuggets of truth from the mountains of information and disinformation that have been disseminated. You can also view this as separating fact from fiction, what is real and what is Memorex?
That very much has been the problem facing the PCSO.
The vast majority of the players are disreputable in some shape or form. I am not sure that they are evil, more they are a product of today’s society. They are not Gen X, nor Gen Y, they are Gen Me. Everything revolves around ‘Me’.
I am sure that people will disagree with my analysis, but, if nothing else it might be thought provoking.
I am just going to use some very ‘cherry picked’ items.
I think that it is a fact that Misty Croslin had just come off a three day booze, drug, and sex binge. No-one seems to doubt that.
I also do believe that Ronald Cummings was at work the evening of the disappearance. I have heard wild claims that he snuck out and killed Haleigh, but I am pretty certain that the investigators have checked this out, and have discounted that idea. In my mind, Ronald was indeed at work.
Now we enter the realm of finding the truth in the lies.
Tommy Croslin enters the picture. Although he and Misty do not always see eye to eye they are close. For months Tommy had no information to offer. That suddenly changed when he started feeling the heat. Suddenly his amnesia is healed and out comes the story that at around 10pm on the night of the disappearance, he went to the trailer and saw no lights on, banged on the door and got no response. He assumed that either everyone was sleeping, or no-one was home.
Another person who some say had a vested interest in making Haleigh Cummings disappear is her biological mother Crystal Sheffield. Sorry folks, you are barking up the wrong tree. Crystal may not be the ‘parent of the year’, in fact I wouldn’t let her within five miles of a child. But in her own way she does care about her children. It is just that drugs have derailed her progress in the adult world.
The last person that I want to bring into the equation is Cousin Joe Overstreet. But more on him later.
The other people don’t count. They are not worth muddying the waters with, they are all entertaining, disreputable, and about as much fun as a sack full of rattlesnakes, but they make the story more complex that it needs to be.
I am going to remove Crystal from the equation, her $12,000 motive (back child support) holds no water. I also seriously doubt that she has the capacity to plan a crime like this, never mind carry it out!
Lets take a look at Cousin Joe. There are some things in his background that do seem to indicate that this might be his kind of gig. However reality says that he makes a great scapegoat rather than perpetrator. I have no inside track with the PCSO, they are always polite to me, and they always respond in a prompt and professional manner to my questions so this is pure guesswork on my behalf. The one thing that I do know for sure is that if they thought Cousin Joe was involved, he would be cooling his heels in jail right now. He is not Mr. Clean, it would be easy to pick him up and sweat him. So, I cross Cousin Joe off the list.
And then there were three!
We have Ronald, Misty, and Tommy. To the best of my knowledge none of them had any motive whatsoever to harm Haleigh Cummings. It is however possible that all three are implicated.
I was talking with a good friend and investigator earlier today, and he very much laid out a scenario that I have to give some credence to.
Ronald is not happy with Misty, she has been gone for three days and he has had to look after the children himself. Misty just wants to sleep, the drug binge has taken its toll. They argue a little, and Ronald goes to work.
Misty is out of steam, she feeds the kids, and just needs a quick 24 hour nap. Junior is no problem, she puts him to bed and he is off to sleep in no time flat.
Haleigh is not quite so easy to deal with, she is a bouncy little girl, she wants to talk and play. How about slipping her half a Roxy or Oxy Misty thinks. It is the ‘babysitter’ of the modern world!
Haleigh does calm down, and go to sleep. Alas Ronald has not. He is pissed at Misty over her going AWOL for the previous three days. He calls and texts, till Misty has had enough. She wants sleep, not a fight. Misty turns her phone off and welcomes sleep.
Ronald Cummings is very annoyed, he is at work, has no way of talking to Misty. He calls Tommy Croslin, “get your butt over to the trailer and find out what is going on”.
The police have heard this story, and I have no doubt that they have checked it out. There is apparently a cell phone record that supports the call (not the content, but the point-to-point) connection.
To delve deeper, we need to once more get into determining fact from fiction.
The fiction says that Tommy went to the trailer, saw all the lights were out, knocked on the door, and when no-one answered went back home.
This is where the story gets very interesting. The possibilities are endless, yet still lead to the same result.
Lets look at what Tommy said, he went to the trailer and no-one was there. But, could this be a fact hidden in the fiction? One scenario that seems to play out is that Tommy did get an answer at the door, a groggy Misty invited him in. He explains that Ronald called and is pissed. They look at the children, JR is fast asleep, Haleigh is dead.
It is from this point on that the big lie starts. However there are shades of truth in it. You just have to look in the right places. Is it possible that the Van that mysteriously moved was the vehicle used to dispose of the body? The search site is only 5 miles from the trailer. There is also the question of a blanket, was this used to wrap Haleigh in?
I am not saying that I have this all correct, I am merely offering one scenario that fits the criteria.
The variables are many, I have tried to take many of them out of the equation. The one thing I am absolutely certain of is that when the PCSO do bring formal charges in this case there will be a ripple effect. We have asked them on several occasions about some of the ancillary players. The answer has remained constant, their focus is on finding Haleigh Cummings, once that goal is reached, the boxing gloves are coming off. There are a number of people that are going to be getting an unwelcome knock on the door.
The Haleigh Cummings story has done little to elivate Putnam County in the view of the world. It is just a small county in Florida. It does not brag any great tourist attractions, in fact few people had ever heard of the place prior to Haleigh Cummings. But I have the greatest respect for the PCSO and I am convinced that they will bring justice for Haleigh Cummings
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackSimon – thanks for the great post. I am with you the entire way. Where things get blurry for me is Ron’s role. I kind of think he gave Haleigh (or suggested or something) the drug. His behavior indicates he is somehow culpable. Thanks for sharing info and for creating a new post.
Simon, Thanks for the new story. We were getting worried about you and Jan. I hope this news is not too upsetting for Jan and you. I know it isn’t an easy thing to stomach and it all happened so fast. and to JillF, I agree, ron fits in there somewhere.
Good post. I have told my wife since the beginning, although Ron isn’t poster boy for father of the year, he didn’t harm his daughter. My guess was that Misty nodded off and Haleigh swallowed a few oxy’s thinking at first they were candy. But, her giving it to her could have happened? Jr. saw a “black figure”, probably Tommy. Realizing Haleigh is dead Tommy, and possibly the cousin as well, help dump the body.
Jr. also saw something going on, on the sofa? Maybe they tried to resuscitate Haleigh first in a panic? After the body gets dumped and Joe leaves town, Misty and Tommy decide if they ever have to talk, they will blame Joe. I personally believe all three are involved. Haleigh died with Misty, Tommy and Joe dumped the body. Or Misty got mad that Haleigh wouldn’t go to sleep and hit her? Then they dumped the body, and she may have been alive still? I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. But I doubt with being exposed in that river, that there are any remains. Not after all this time in an alligator infested area. Remember how Caylee’s bones were spread out all over and she was triple bagged under rain water in the woods. One aligator is bad enough! You get two or three or more taring at a body forget it. God, how sad.
Many many of you owe apologies to Haleigh’s maternal family for the awful things that have been said about her. Specifically Norreen. Norreen has been a pervasively vile poster when it came to razor sharp words being said against and about Crystal Sheffield.
Vaquera, you as well.
Many people have taken the worst time in a mothers life and have made it worst by blaming her for something even the police said she did not do.
I hope both of you learn how it feels to be in that place some day.
PCSO spokesman says today “Misty may not be THE KEY but she has key answers”..he also said Misty was brought to the search site to let her see how big the investigation was, in other words to intimidate her!
She woke up and haleigh was gone..peroid!
(imho)
I saw a clip on Nancy Grace of Misty pointing at the water. She was pointing at a location in the water. Nancy Grace saw that and began saying she’s confessed.
I do not believe Misty was taken there to “scare” her. I believe she was taken there to tell another “story” (possibly another fib; after all, its been reported she’s failed polygraph after polygraph).
One question here. If Misty is charged with murder (which might be a stretch), is it correct that because she was under 18 when Haleigh was reported missing, the DA cannot seek the death penalty? I have heard conflicting stories about Florida law. Can someone here set that straight?
Above was posted in my opinion.
also bob caylee was only gone almost six months whereas haleigh has not been found for 14 months (a year and two months) so they will be lucky to find her but there is always hope.
JillF said, in April 16th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Simon – thanks for the great post. I am with you the entire way. Where things get blurry for me is Ron’s role. I kind of think he gave Haleigh (or suggested or something) the drug. His behavior indicates he is somehow culpable. Thanks for sharing info and for creating a new post.
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ITA Jill. That is exactly what happened and we will all see (including Simon-which he should already know) that even if Ron didn’t sneak out of work he is just as responsible for what happened to Haleigh for instructing Misty to drug her.
News link video.
http://jacksonville.com/video/news/metro/2010-04-15/watch-river-search-ends-haleigh-cummings
Finallythetruth….while I haven’t been a fan of attacking Crystal and her clan and have never seen any evidence that they were a part of Haleigh’s disappearance, Crystal gets NO awards from me. She was absent in Haleigh’s life and chose drugs over her children. She even did drugs while she was pregnant with Chloe which in my eyes should have cost her custody. She has made NUMEROUS mistakes which could have cost her children their lives so don’t get all holier than thou on us because while I don’t think Crystal is guilty of Haleigh’s disappearance, she IS guilty of being a worthless parent. She DOES have a second chance with Jr. Let’s hope she doesn’t blow it.
If anyone owes anyone an apology, it would be Crystal needing to apologize to her children and then get her act together so we don’t see a repeat of this tradgedy we are witnessing with Haleigh.
Great post.
I’m not sure of cousin Joe’s part in all of this. He seems very upset when they showed him on the news. If Joe did have a part in this the police are waiting on evidence to put him in jail because this would not be the first time Misty has told something that is not true. I also think its odd that Tommy calls NANNIE and then 15 mins later Misty calls her to tell all. I could be wrong but I thought that Tommy said he couldn’t blame Joe for something he didn’t do. But now that him and sissy are looking at time in jail they decide to come clean. One news station is reporting that LE found cinder blocks.
I have never thought that Crystal and her clan had a part in this. I’m praying for Haleigh’s family. I just can’t imagine what they are going through right now.
I think there is still a possibility that Haleigh was dead before RC left for work, but anything is possible given all the lies and the character and lifestyle of all who seem to be involved.
What I don’t understand is why they aren’t giving Misty and Tommy another polygraph asking them “exact” “precise” questions.
ie.”did you give Haleigh drugs?” “Did you dump Haleigh into the river or hide her some place else?” “was Timmy’s van the vehicle you used that night”?
Etc,Etc.
They should also give brother Timmy a polygraph as well since his van was possibly involved.
I know polygraphs aren’t 100 percent but if there are alligators in that river who may or may not have eaten poor little baby Haliegh.The Polygraphs could come in handy for evidence to prosecute the whole clan.
I agree with Simon. I’m not 100% with the Joe theory. I would say Ron is guilty before Joe but then I think back to hearing Ron on the 911 call saying something about how could you let my baby get taken? Could have been a cover up statement or maybe partial truth as in Joe taking her. But if that were the case what would keep Ron from telling LE about Joe. I wonder if someone is ratting on Ron and we just haven’t heard anything yet…Le waiting for a confession or more proof. If Ron is involved though I don’t understand why Tommy hasn’t ratted on him.
I said a prayer and now I know Haliegh is dead I will put it away.
I think there is still a possibility that Haleigh was dead before RC left for work, but anything is possible given all the lies and the character and lifestyle of all who appear to be involved.
Is there any reasonable indication that Haleigh wasn’t already dead before Ronald went to work?
Reporting it at 3:00 AM is no indication of what time it happened, and proof that he was at work doesn’t exclude him from anything that happened before he left for work.
Refresh is slow so this may have been addressed already by the time it posts:
I do not believe Haleigh died in that home because LE was looking for an alive Haleigh in the beginning. Would LE not have taken the cadaver dogs into the house??
Simon, your scenario is very plausible except I think she was unconscious they may have thought she was dead. Also, I would think Ron would have been able to say whether a blanket was missing, so either a blanket is missing or Misty did in fact wash a blanket. IF Misty washed a blanket (after the fact) that would mean she tampered with the scene and would she not be responsible as an accessory if she did?
LE and the DA can give Misty a break on the drug charges if she has provided info on Haleigh, but if she played a part in disposing of Haleigh and then covering for 14 months, she should not get away with it. Especially if JO was not involved and she is still insisting he was.
I can’t help but think that a call to 911 right away might have saved little Haleigh’s life. JMO.
ky mom
I would not buy into that. I went through a trial the person had done some not so nice things to me. He took the stand and spoke in regards to how he felt about what he had done and broke into tears, fell side ways in his chair and it was all BS. I knew him well enough to know it was BS because he done it a hundred times before in person just to flip the other way in a blink of an eye.
I’m waiting for facts in this case what I know for sure is that it does not make sense Misty would be in sync with Joe or Tommy while publicly accusing them from the onset and sending Police their way. That is not the way to keep a secret or the behaviour one would do when keeping a secret with people. A person would defend them, keep the focus off of them. What happened to Tommy going there leaving and Police knowing it as a fact and asking for someone to come forward about Misty leaving? To many twists and turns and none are making sense. The LE has a lot to do and correct before they will get convictions.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
sorry for the double post
AnneInTn said,in April 16th, 2010 at 1:23 pm News link video.
http://jacksonville.com/video/news/metro/2010-04-15/watch-river-search-ends-haleigh-cummings
Thank you so much! This interview with the LE officer it showed was very informative.Apparently LE doesn’t think Misty committed the murder based on this interview as he said she is a key to this and not the key. He also said again there are several persons of interest.He also said Misty does not neccessarily know this area they were searching in,They just wanted her to see the magnitude of this investigation and that she has a cooperative spirit right now.
Plausible theory. Where does Ron fit into this…do you think he found out what happened? His actions have not fit a father with a missing child.JMO
If Haleigh died in the home, there would have been some evidence of that. Did they not take dogs through that trailer? I think they did. The dogs would have hit on something if she died/was killed inside the house.
Queenie said,in April 16th, 2010 at 2:05 pm Plausible theory. Where does Ron fit into this…do you think he found out what happened? His actions have not fit a father with a missing child.JMO
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And exactly what type of actions does a Father with a missing child need to have?
Could she have been unconscious in the home but they thought she was dead and thats why they put the body in the river?
I would think that a father with a missing child would be turning up every leaf in the neighborhood looking for their child. Ron also spoke about Haleigh in the past tense, as though she was no longer alive. He married Misty because that is what Haleigh would have wanted. Why not wait until she was home. Ron moved on in his life as though Haleigh was not coming back.
Queenie said,in April 16th, 2010 at 2:17 pm I would think that a father with a missing child would be turning up every leaf in the neighborhood looking for their child. Ron also spoke about Haleigh in the past tense, as though she was no longer alive. He married Misty because that is what Haleigh would have wanted. Why not wait until she was home. Ron moved on in his life as though Haleigh was not coming back.
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Um, ok, and? He was doing the best he could w/ what he had. Same goes for Crystal. They both had odd behavior because of drug use. The end.
Type of actions I would think a parent of a missing child would have:
Searching for the child.
Not getting married a month later to the person believed to have last seen the child.
Not engaging in antics involving dead rats and road rage.
Not out doing drug deals, especially when there is another child in their custody.
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A parent who loses a child typically questions what they could have done differently. This is common even when the parent played no part in the loss. Parents in this type of situation often berate themselves, believing if only they had done this or that differently, it would not have happened. It is usually a very long time before the parent can pick up the pieces of their life and move on.
boots said,in April 16th, 2010 at 2:13 pm Could she have been unconscious in the home but they thought she was dead and thats why they put the body in the river?
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I thought about this too boots. I could see her having such shallow breathing that maybe the thought she was dead? Wouldn’t they make sure? I guess if that’s the case they were too drug addalled to really confirm?
cath
you are so right,there nothing we can or do to
Ron to hurt him more, you can only see the surface of Ron,and I bet he is in more pain than anyone us could ever know.
Karen – I can’t speak for others but HERE are some of the things that have caused me to question Ron’s involvement:
1. The majority of people have suspected Misty, Tommy and/or Joe during the last 14 months. WHY would he not have put pressure on them, threatened them, questioned them, etc. Instead he hung out with them, did drugs with them, and even married ONE of them. Why has defended those who have seems so obviously guilty to the majority of us.
2. When LE was saying Misty was the key and was withholding info, why wasn’t he shaking the stuffin’ out of her trying to get answers?
3. Why has he seemed more interested in making a buck off Haleigh being missing than trying to find his daughter?
4. Why has he not seemed more forthcoming with information and seemed secretive about certain aspects of his life thus causing many to wonder what it is he is hiding?
5. Why did he continue the behaviors (drug use, drug dealing, hanging out with criminals, getting busted for drugs, getting involved in road rage, etc) after losing one child? Wouldn’t the loss of one child make you get your act together and be OVERLY protective of the remaining child? Wouldn’t you distance yourself from all criminal activity since you KNOW you are under the microscope?
6. Why didn’t he do more to search for his daughter? Why didn’t he get more involved with the Haleighbug Foundation?
7. Why has he defended Misty so often while so many have suspected her? She was, afterall the last person KNOWN to see Haleigh. Where did that initial anger go from the 911 call when Misty was the “dumb biotch girlfriend”? Why did he then marry her? To keep his butt out of trouble for humping a minor?
8. Why did he never question Misty’s inconsistant stories?
9. Why didn’t he join forces with Crystal to find his daughter instead of sticking with the person that allowed her to go missing?
10. Why the smirks and grins in his mug shot? What on EARTH did he have to be happy about?
11. Where did ALL the anger and grief go that his daughter went missing? He instead seemed to be more interested in buying/selling/doing drugs.
12. Why didn’t he get back to work, support his child and kick the Croslins to the curb to protect Jr instead of getting more involved with them and ending up in jail?
I could go on and on and on. So many times his demeanor has been SOOOO off that you had to wonder “WHAT IS GOING ON?”. He just didn’t seem like a grief stricken father or one that wanted answers to her disappearance. It has seemed more like he KNEW the answers but didn’t want them to be told. IMVHO anyway. Maybe it was just the drug use that make him act so flippin bizarre. IDK. But he HAS acted bizarre for a father of a missing child.
Linda,
I think Ron is hurting big time and feels a tremendous amount of guilt. I never felt he was directly involved in the disappearance but there can be little doubt his lifestyle played a role in what happened…and he knows this.
My issues with Ron have always been that he continued with his reckless lifestyle, and continued to make poor choices, even though he still had custody of Jr. Lessons are often learned in horrible ways and it didn’t look to me like Ron had learned much from losing Haleigh, but I think he is finally very well aware of his part in this horrible tragedy.
cathartic….I do think jail has been good for Tommy, Misty AND Ron. Ron looks SO much healthier….without the drugs ALL of them are coming to terms with what happened. I think they all used drugs to deal with their pain, guilt, etc. LE broke that cycle when they locked them up. Now maybe the healing can begin for all of them. One would think the guilt of knowing what they did to Haleigh would eat Misty and Tommy alive. But as long as they were free and using drugs, they could hide from that. I think once they got clean, they came clean. I hope ALL of them can now get their acts together. I hope if Tommy is truly involved that Lindsey moves on with her life…unless SHE knew about all of this then I think she should face charges too. It does appear she could have lied for Tommy, and perhaps even destroyed evidence (the boots?). I guess time will tell who did what and what charges everyone will face. May the guilty pay.
I saw on Nancy Grace the portion of the video where Misty points with cuffed hands towards the river. There’s not a doubt in my mind that she had a major involvement in this tragedy and I thought so from the beginning. I don’t think Ron was involved but I do think he has known for a long time what the real story is. When he knew Haleigh wasn’t ever coming back he tried to make everyone else look innocent–Misty, Tommy, Joe–the whole rotten bunch of them. Jusr another junky drug dealer in my book but not a murderer.
This is truly a tragedy. Why would anyone hurt this beautiful little girl? My heart aches.
I feel sorry for Ronald Cummings and his family. My heart goes out to them. I hope that they get the closure they need and that justice is quick and swift.
I also hope that the grandmother who called the police once she got the information about the river receives the reward. I know that this is probably the farthest thing from anyone’s mind, but I hope that she will be rewarded for her honesty and willingness to come forth. Also, I hope that everyone who knew anything about this is prosecuted. I really hope that Misty gets what she deserves quick, fast and in a hurry. We all knew that she had something to do with this and that she would eventually crack. She didn’t crack so this means that she is cold-blooded and a threat to society.
Has it ever been proven that any of them were actually on drugs that night? especially MC & RC. I know MC had just come off a 3day drug and party binge and was tired but was she doin drugs that night?
HLN has been playing the NG clip of grandma all day. But this morning Tommy’s lawyer gave a statement that Tommy did not confess anything to his grandmother. Interesting.
TC’s calls from jail are recorded. LE knows what he said, and to whom. I think it is possible TC has not confessed anything; I think it is possible he has implicated JO, and that Misty has implicated JO as well. I have not written JO off as being involved, but I am convinced Misty and Tommy have yet to tell the ENTIRE truth of that night.
It is possible JO was there and is the one who actually put Haleigh in the water but, if that happened it does not make him MORE guilty than M or T, imo. It is possible M and T might say JO is the one who killed Haleigh if she was only unconscious and regained consciousness at any point once she hit the cold water. If that happened, they might say he killed her because he was the one who threw her in.
Not saying it happened that way, just that it may have. Personally I am not convinced yet JO was even there.
I really don’t think any one of them are smart enough to figure out that Haliegh was dead. The rest seems very plausable.
JB said,in April 16th, 2010 at 2:40 pm Karen – I can’t speak for others but HERE are some of the things that have caused me to question Ron’s involvement:
1. The majority of people have suspected Misty, Tommy and/or Joe during the last 14 months. WHY would he not have put pressure on them, threatened them, questioned them, etc. Instead he hung out with them, did drugs with them, and even married ONE of them. Why has defended those who have seems so obviously guilty to the majority of us.
2. When LE was saying Misty was the key and was withholding info, why wasn’t he shaking the stuffin’ out of her trying to get answers?
3. Why has he seemed more interested in making a buck off Haleigh being missing than trying to find his daughter?
4. Why has he not seemed more forthcoming with information and seemed secretive about certain aspects of his life thus causing many to wonder what it is he is hiding?
5. Why did he continue the behaviors (drug use, drug dealing, hanging out with criminals, getting busted for drugs, getting involved in road rage, etc) after losing one child? Wouldn’t the loss of one child make you get your act together and be OVERLY protective of the remaining child? Wouldn’t you distance yourself from all criminal activity since you KNOW you are under the microscope?
6. Why didn’t he do more to search for his daughter? Why didn’t he get more involved with the Haleighbug Foundation?
7. Why has he defended Misty so often while so many have suspected her? She was, afterall the last person KNOWN to see Haleigh. Where did that initial anger go from the 911 call when Misty was the “dumb biotch girlfriend”? Why did he then marry her? To keep his butt out of trouble for humping a minor?
8. Why did he never question Misty’s inconsistant stories?
9. Why didn’t he join forces with Crystal to find his daughter instead of sticking with the person that allowed her to go missing?
10. Why the smirks and grins in his mug shot? What on EARTH did he have to be happy about?
11. Where did ALL the anger and grief go that his daughter went missing? He instead seemed to be more interested in buying/selling/doing drugs.
12. Why didn’t he get back to work, support his child and kick the Croslins to the curb to protect Jr instead of getting more involved with them and ending up in jail?
I could go on and on and on. So many times his demeanor has been SOOOO off that you had to wonder “WHAT IS GOING ON?”. He just didn’t seem like a grief stricken father or one that wanted answers to her disappearance. It has seemed more like he KNEW the answers but didn’t want them to be told. IMVHO anyway. Maybe it was just the drug use that make him act so flippin bizarre. IDK. But he HAS acted bizarre for a father of a missing child.
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1. As has been said numerous times, you keep your friends close and enemies closer. Misty was the LAST person known to have seen Haleigh alive. These people are grifters, they just up and disappear, RC wanted to hold on to her to see if she knew anything. I can totally relate.
2. If RC “shook the stuffin'” out of Misty, we would have gone to jail and she would have been gone.
3. It was Crystal that made money off Haleigh not RC. Why did she does this? Drugs.
4. He owes you people nothing. He was at work, WTF could he know?
5. Again, the other parent had these same problems. Even druggin’ w/ her baby in the car and wrecking it. Proves nothing except she is a drug addict. Same goes for RC.
6. He did search, the Police told the family NOT to search. And the Haleighbug Foundation was started by a woman that tried to ruin RC to the point of just starting ouright lies. Who in their right mind would participate in something started by someone like that. Not me.
7. refer to #1.
8. YOU don’t know he didn’t and refer to #1.
9. You mean join Crystal on that fake search in San Mateo? Why would he? Refer to #6.
10. HE WAS ON DRUGS. Geezus.
11. Um , that’s why alot of people use drugs. They can’t deal w/ their emotions. Same goes for CS.
12. Why didn’t CS get a job support her children? They were both drug addicts, drug addicts have strange behavior.
I too can on and on, same as you. All you have is conjecture an speculation. CS has just as much bizarre behavior as RC.
Tom Croslin’s phone conversation would have been recorded, so it is very unlikely his attorney lied.
For the last 14 months I’ve wondered why the entire family has consistently said that they never asked the pertinent questions that every normal person would have asked!
It’s certainly abnormal that Ron didn’t ask, even pressure, Misty for detailed answers and explanations. It’s also very abnormal for the grandmother to hear these confessions without even asking, “WHY???”
None of it sounds believable to me!
New Article…would seem to clear up ANY confusion as to WHO the tip came from. Granny is just trying to cash in! She was NOT the tipster!
ex-wife of a chronic liar said,in April 16th, 2010 at 3:35 pm For the last 14 months I’ve wondered why the entire family has consistently said that they never asked the pertinent questions that every normal person would have asked!
It’s certainly abnormal that Ron didn’t ask, even pressure, Misty for detailed answers and explanations. It’s also very abnormal for the grandmother to hear these confessions without even asking, “WHY???”
None of it sounds believable to me!
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How do you know they didn’t ask? Just becasue they ask doesn’t mean the other person gives an answer. Hell, the POs have been asking for 14 months, they had no better luck.
JB, I do believe Granny is trying to cash in.
JMO.
Karen – because in interviews they are asked “Did you ask her WHY?”…”Did you ask him this”…”Did you ask them that” and every time the person be interviewed says “NOPE”. Which leaves you scratching your head and wondering….WHY THE FRIGG NOT?!?!?!?!
cathartic – go read Simon’s latest article…has a letter from Tommy atty…explains EVERYTHING….Granny was NOT the tipster and he never confessed anything to her! BIG FAT LIE!
So was Hardy and Bowling both lying yesterday when they said the search was ending yesterday at 6 pm? There is video of them both making that statement yesterday afternoon. They said they were wrapping up the “physical searching” portion of this search at 6 pm yesterday and would continue on with their investigation beyond that and in addition would search any other area that any credible lead led them to until such time HaLeigh was found. So is it now confirmed that this is not true and they are in fact really searching again today?
OMG – you guys have got to read Simon’s latest article about Granny. Read the letter from Tommy’s attorney AND click on the link….it has a letter from Cuz Joe’s sister about Granny! TOO funny! Just when I think this family couldn’t possibly stoop any lower…BAM! They prove me wrong!
i cant stop tninking about this sweet little girl at least the anmial who killed jon bonet rasemy didnt through her in a lake full of allagators.O MY GOD that poor baby.there are no words.I pray with all my heart that and all that i believe that she is a angel now safe with GOD and all the other sweet little babies that we couldnt protect from the lowest lives that rome this earth those who hurt harmless children.and may whoever did this and i think it was someone copying kc anthony.am not judging but her and misty should spend the rest of there lives in the same cell looking at each other so they can mirror off each other to see what ugly brats they are and they sould not be allowed to be cuddled by there mothers who are there biggest fans.they didnt give those babies a chance to be cuddled.i call them brats because they havent been convicted of killing those babies yet.GOD please BLESS ALL YOUR CHILDREN…keep haleigh close too you.
I am not convinced that Ron knew anything however; his statment “how can you let her get stolen” seems funny to me because what made him come to the conclusion that someone took Haleigh rather than someone taking her. How can he know if the poor baby just didn’t get out of the house on her own while the Misty Maggot slept? He should be held accountable being that knowing Misty’s drug use…would be endangering his children. There are states that have laws about this. CHILD ENDANGERMENT. My heart aches for those who really loved that lil girl. I pray for peace for Haleigh and all of those who were affected by this tragic story.
In closing..Joe didn’t do it he says, Do what? He may not have done it but with that statement he knows who did.
I am surprised that ron would have any invovement,if he has he deserves an academy award for his performance on the 911 call,and the next day, but as karen writes he did do some odd stuff that does not add up.
Hi everyone….my name is Marybeth
I have never posted before, but I do read this site faithfully…I was just wondering, didn’t the LE have cadaver dogs at that river the day little Haleigh went missing that would have detected a body…and if she was still alive, the other search dogs would have carried her scent all the way to the river…does anyone know if the search dogs did that…unless, someone put her body in there after the river was searched that day…or she could be in another river…remember JO disappeared for a while after Haleigh went missing and he didn’t live in Florida…thanks for letting me post this…I like your site, Simon
The truth is coming very soon. Misty’s presence at the dock was virtually insignificant.
I dont believe for one that Ronald would do anything to harm his kid, and yes people make mistakes i know Crystal and she is a great mother everyone goes through a hard time no one is perfect and i think people need to stop coming up with there own stories and worry the fact that Haleigh needs to be found, Truth will be told soon. I pray for you sweet angel you will get justice soon!
KAREN
Which “we” would get arrested for shaking the stuffing out of Misty? You & GGMS too?
He does owe us something! We’ve spent the past year plus cearching, crying, praying, reading, posting, debating all for the sake of his little girl…..HE OWES HALEIGH MORE!!!!
It’s all comming out soon…..just hang onto your hats folks….we’re in for a very bumpy ride.
Karen
Reality Check. You are so wrong and should be ashamed of your illogical and irrational statements and attitude.
Wake up!
Simon. This is a great article. It makes alot of sense and very plausible. Thanks for all you do. Remember TJ reporting that Haleighs case is like Caylees case. Medicating the children to party or whatever they want.
PLEASE someone tell me WHO THROWS a babie in a lake full a allagators we all know people addicted to drugs !!!!!!!!!!! but they dont hurt little children no more EXUSESS please.poverty no exuse.stupidy no exuse.heartless ruthless there are no words to discribe who did this i cant wrap my brain around this whole series of events from the beging its like a bad soap opera AND i wish it was.so poor baby HALEIGH wouldnt be dead.THIS is one of the saddest stories ever…ITS ALL ABOUT YOU HALEIGH !!!!!!!!!!!and it always will be the anmails that did this to you will soon fade out of the headlines but you baby girl will remain in my heart and the heart of countless others FOREVER you are loved now more then you can ever know..you are safe in the hands of GOD now were no one can ever hurt you again i wish i knew you and could have protected you from these usless PUNKS that took your life you SMILE IN HEAVEN NOW BABY girl.i will think of you always.
someonewhocrysforu, I share your sentiment. I pray that each person who had knowledge of out little Angel be punished severely for keeping their mouths shut!! Those actually involved I hope they are made to suffer for the rest of their pathetic lives!!!!
hey. in my heart HC trust me most people arent judging anyone and your rite people do make mistakes and go through stuff me being one of them BUT MOST PEOPLE DONT HURT LITTLE BABIES soooo if we sound harsh we are .i think i speak for most people WE ARE OUTRAGED there is no exuse for what happend to that baby girl and why do you feel the need to protect chrystles parenting skills i dont recall them coming into play in this case.am sure shes a good mom her kids are still alive and without judging anyone they might be alive by the skin of there teeth.being they also lived with and are realated to the punks that aleagedly HURT HALEIGH or killed HALEIGH or tied a cynder block to her neck and through her in a lake full of alligators or lied maybe just LIED for the last 14 months.how do you think people are going to feel we wouldnt be having this converstion if HALEIGH wasent hurt or killed or decomposing at the bottom over that river. so maybe you sould try to understand how we feel NO ONE IDENTIFIES with people who hurt children and misty and her brother are making it very hard for anyone to give them the benifit of the doubt lets face it…i wish we didnt have to have a opion in this case or of these people i wish there was no case of a missing little girl but there is…… we didnt come into there lives they came into ours…and anything being said is because we ALL LOVE HALEIGH now……..
yes LOOKING FOR JUSTICE YOU SAID A MOUTH FULL I COULDNT AGREE WITH YOU MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PUNKS there a bunch of pathtic PUNKS and if am wrong i will apoligize BUT am sure am not going to have to…………….
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