It has been a busy week in the search for Haleigh Cummings. As I suspected this was a very lively program. Once again we had a wonderful panel, Jan Barrett, Tj Hart, Denny Griffin, and Levi Page.
Each brings a unique point of view, and each brings some gold nugget to the story.
All of us have some information that the other does not have. I discovered years ago that before you take a position on any subject you need to research it. All of us have put in the time, all of us have our own opinions and they often do not match.
One of the joys of running this program are the differences in opinions.
I am not Nancy Grace, and I do not like the ‘lap dogs’ on her program. Haired, or un-haired.
I like raw news, and I think we got that today.
The big news was obviously the arrests of 5 people that might have some information that likely can offer a resolution to the case.
I do not invite hired gun’s as Nancy does. Or rather, when I discover that they are a hired gun I drop em faster than a speeding bullet. People are looking for news not ART.
Todays program was wonderful. All of the panel had something to add to the mix. I for one learned much.
The search for Haleigh Cummings is in the end game.
You can catch the whole discussion here.
Simon Barrett
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Is it in the End Game Simon??
Why do I feel this will not ever get resolved.
Good show, good info. I think Haleigh is still alive and well.
Thank you, Simon and Everyone! TJ and Denny, thank you especially for easing some of my worries! Great show!
good show Simon and Jan. I get what TJ is saying always. As far as Haleigh being alive I wish I had Jan’s faith. This bust is the best thing that has happened in the midst of this awful story. Please pray that someone opens their pie hole. Someone knows,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Great show, Simon and Jan! Very informative and you had a knowledgeable panel as usual.
Thanks to all on today’s show for your time and for sharing info and your thoughts. Much appreciated!
Now. . .I wonder what this week will bring!
GREAT SHOW SIMON TJ JAN AND PANEL,
ONCE ALL THE PUBLICITY SEEKERS VACATE WE CAN ALL GET THE RAW NEWS N NOT THE PAID WATERED DWN CRAP…N HALEIGH CAN COME HOME.
ART IS A MOLE,A SNEAKY MOLE SUCK UP.ALSO I HOPE LITTLE BY LITTLE COBRA IS BEING FOUND OUT.JMO
Hank JR wasn’t the only one out on bond when incarcerated for drug trafficking.
Ronald Cummings has been out on a little over $12K bond since he was charged with burglary in August 2009.
I dont understand the Cobra bashing, really people cut the guy some slack he has been through enough. As for the show I think it was one of the best. Thank you TJ for giving us all the slight clue, I think I know who is gonna get a visit real soon if not already.
I do have my doubts about Haleighs welfare but I WOULD LOVE TO BE WRONG. I hope detox gets so bad they all wanna tell the truth and soon.jmo
TJ, I would like to know if the Croslin children are being protected as I am worried about there living in the area with so much going on. Please let us know that they are being watched by PCSO. moo
Where is Cobra?? Not on the show anylonger??
This is my first time listening….kinda laid back & funny….but where is Cobra??
Eating breakfast with Art?? lol
Boldone3, Probably trying to put his life back together and getting ready to go to court would be my guess. Alot of people are bashing the guy when he is down, no fair, they have compassion for everyone else why none for Cobra? jmo
As expected, Ron Cummings claims he was targeted for a drug trafficking arrest.
Inconsistently, he said two different things:
1. ‘They’ told him their focus was really on Haleigh.
2. He didn’t recognize ‘the person’ who told him about the focus on Haleigh.
‘The person’ is one person, Ronald. ‘They’ is more than one. Get your story straight.
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-01-24/story/jailhouse_interview_ronald_cummings_talks_about_arrest
Sorry, I didnt mean you but was just explaining why he isnt on the show. I am angry about people being so uncompassioate to the poor guy.jmo
Thanks Tobias…I was curious as to when he goes to trial, etc….
Cobra’s heart is in the right place. Nobody can tell me different.
Looks like Dana Treen got the first jailhouse interview.
TJ, you slacking today?
I’ll bet you can get an interview with Misty, but not sure you would want to.
Might be best to not let them use you to broadcast their version of events.
I believe it is tomorrow unless they changed it again. Thank you for showing compassion for the guy. I feel the same way, he meant well and like alot of us he just got too immersed in wanting to find Haleigh alive and returning her. All of us need to think how would we have acted if we were in his shoes down there in Rock and Jello land trying desperately to find a little girl.moo
Just read the interview very enlightening. Ron evidently is not going through withdraws. He came off very poorly, he didnt even say that he hoped they find his daughter. He is only concerned with his own comforts of showers and recreation time. Sad excuse for a father in my opinion.
Thanks for the link to Dana Treen’s jailhouse interview of Ron C.
“Father of missing girl Haleigh Cummings calls drug charges ‘a setback in my life'”
uh…yeah….a setback
Tobias can you post the link to the interview?
Thanks!
its up above.
Boldone-Jason posted at 9:03 pm
Sorry, I see where you posted it.
Listening to the show…watching the game…and posting…not good at multi tasking!
Katfish,
MAJOR setback that he wants to lessen, hence the ‘They’ said it was about Haleigh.
Haleigh come home.
I was surprised when he said he didn’t recognize the person(LE) that told him it was about Haleigh….or maybe not.
Yeah,lol, friends get tats with your name on their lower back. Really does he think we are just as stupid as he is? I can not wait until this bunch are found out for what they really are. jmo
Levi’s radio show about this case ready to start.
http://www.Blogtalkradio.com/levipage/2010/01/25/haleigh-cummings-investigation
If any one cares ronald just gave an interview, its on florida union posts I think.
RON< RON< RON…(shaking head) your daughter is missing…knock, knock puddin’head. Hello, Hello, hello is there anybody in there? just nod if you can hear me. whats the matter Ron, are you fresh outa’ jr high girls to control? I can’t believe what I just read! I am driven to vomit.
Katfish,
Or ‘maybe not surprised’ is right. Not surprised at all.
Yes Ron, it sure is a setback…so you might as well “set back” and relax cuz’ theys not gonna’ open dah doors fer’ a long,long time!
Well, I actually took notes on todays program (a first for me, I usually just listen and then try to remember all the details after the fact. Here is what I have as the “highlights”. They just look so good in print, I wanted to share.
1) DB warned to “stay away from Misty” recently…I’m thinking she should have listened.
2) Per Denny: “Only proven info gets the deal.”
Whomever tries to go for the deal MUST prove their story/info or go back to step one!
3) Per TJ: Bond group/Cobra..Las Vegas? “Yes, that city came up a time or two” (Later mentioned by Simon that the “group” has severed ties with Cobra/He hasn’t spoken to them since the I don’t approve article/report.
Padilla interested? TJ: Possible..but not sure.
4) Katfish…good question. I can’t wait to see the answer.
5) PCSO statements per TJ: “We are close to solving the Haleigh case.” (paraphrase)
Not sure if deceased or alive- this is new info as they have said everytime before that they were looking for a live Haleigh.
6) It’s not so much what LE says but HOW they say it. “But we hope it’s the letter” (?) (I was unsure about that part. I think I know what letter they mean but not sure.
7) Possible that someone who PREVIOUSLY worked with LE would know how to cover something like this up. TJ: Possible an illogical person is why it has no logic and is hard to solve.
8) Interviewing TM? TJ: Hard nights
9) Fields=Misty attorney
Shoemaker= possible for Ron
DB gets a public defender???
No word on attorneys for HS or TC
10) DB, why is she involved? Undercover for LE per Denny (possible just being sarcastic)
11) Ronald shoots Roxies in foot. I noticed that no one on the panel knew the process for such a thing so I wanted to include it.
1) Crush the pill
2) Mix with a small amount of water
3) Draw into a syringe
4) Inject into any vein of your choice
The veins of the foot would be particularily choice since they are almost always covered by socks or shoes to cover tracks. The veins stick out fairly prominently without a turnequet so no worries about missing and wasting a “load”. I’ve read that between the toes themselves is a very popular spot, rather hidden.
5) Sit back and enjoy the HEROIN high(I’ve done some research over the last 11 months, lol)
12) DB needs PD??? Maybe because her husband with all of the money cut her off when she called home to say she’d been arrested and for what. If she’s getting DIVORCED she will have no money and will need a Public Defender?
13) Who’s first to crack?
Levi: DB
TJ: Tommy 1st, Misty eventually.
14) WHen this case does crack open what can we expect?
TJ: Trickles first, then a flood of info, maybe even overload.
Denny: Misty, I hope you know that whomever goes for the deal first gets the best one!
15) TJ: Expect there to be a big break shortly….
Thanks everyone for a great show!
Donna Brock and Hank JR have public defenders, Misty has Fields (still pro-bono I assume), but what about Ronald?
Did his attorney advise he tell a reporter a story about ‘They’ telling him his arrest wasn’t really about drug trafficking, but instead about Haleigh?
I don’t get it. What is the problem with you inviting ART?
I am happy the Croslin/Cummings/Sykes and Brock are in jail. Can we put ego’s aside and if ART or whoever know something they can share with everyone else, allow them to be on the show?
This is NOT about ego’s but a 6 year old child missing for almost a year. The father is in jail. He will go to prison. We don’t know if she is dead or alive and the talk is about NG and ART?? Lordy!!!
I belive that if misty ever talks it will be because it will be in her best interest,same for the others, i do not how they could do it but maybe they could make some kind of a deal with one of them.tommy crosilin would probably be the best one to do it with is my bet!
Oh OK….let me translate street for Ron:
WHen he says Misty is his ex-wife/friend, what he really means is:
“She’s my partner for ex-sex…It’s not a long time…but it’s a fun time!” LOL! Friends with bennies
At least he realizes HE’S GOING TO PRISION…FOR A LONG TIME!!! Is this a confession???? and if so, of what, exactly? Just pill sales?
More arrests expected lets hope it is White Boy Greg holy Hanna not a bad guy? the guy is a pervert who sleeps with teen age girls while getting high with them on Cocaine. When I was 29 it never entered my mind to sleep with a 17 year old, that is not a normal mind, I don’t like him at all. Ronald made his own choices Ms Neves just needs time to absorb what has transpired.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
I forgot to mention mental picture just what every daughter wants mental picture of their dad having sex and then blabbing about it on national TV. I have never heard my dad speak of any female, sad world he is in.
White boy greg is 29? Dear God, what is going on down there? Where are the parents,the teachers, the clergy, the couselors,and the police? Who is minding the children? Doesn’t anyone instill morals and values in the children? Children are becoming young adults having never been taught right from wrong. Might as well hand out tee shirts that say: “Will mate for fun” sheez All I can say is: ” NC Man, NO CLASS”!
Theresa Nevis must be so proud.
I truly wish I could take my last post away. That was cruel, and Mrs. Nevis, if your reading this, I am truly sorry for that remark. I couldn’t fathom going through the hell you are. I know you love your son,and I know you love and miss your grand daughter. When I’m wrong, I say I’m wrong…but when I’m right, I reserve the privilege of stating why. Your son is not an honorable man. The fact that he’s never been held accountable for his actions is obvious, to say the least. The events of past last year are the penalties for learning this too late. again, I am sorry.
methinks, I think it is very big of you to apologize and I think Teresa N is a big enough person to forgive you. I am so thankful I have never had to suffer what she has been through this past year. I am sure she has regrets with some of the ways she has raised Ron. I also think she did the best she knew how to do and he is a grown man responsible for his own actions regardless of the mistakes she may or may not have made. I also think this isn’t over and it still may be proven that he is not responsible for anything done to Haleigh. I hope time will give us alot more insight on things none of us really know. Again, I commend you for apologizing.
From the news article: “That’s a hard question to answer,” he said. It is hard to think she does not know more, he said, but equally hard to think she could have kept it secret from detectives for nearly a year.
Equally hard to think she could have kept it a secret from detectives for nearly a year? And so, how hard was it to keep from him? Obviously there wasn’t anything to keep from him according to his verbage.
They may never find Haleigh, they may never know what happened to Haleigh, but the two people who are responsible for her disappearance are sailing down the river to ultimately land in pokey town and that is good enough for me. I don’t need a body as evidence to know that the precious Haleigh Cummings is not coming back. Ron’s smirk, self righteous attitude and self centered persona show me that he is one messed up punk. Prison time is exactly what he needs, even though he doesn’t seem to be bothered by it in the slightest. He’ll get 3 squares a day, a cot to sleep on and eventually, company from Bubba. No more raggin’ from Granny, no more Mama leaning over his shoulder, guiding him and whispering in his ear what to say. It’s a done deal and I, for one, could not be more thrilled. FINALLY, he and the liar of the century are getting what they have deserved since Haleigh disappeared. Amen, amen, amen.
*My opinions & thoughts on two people who thoroughly disgust me.
I don’t think Ron had anything to do with her disappearance, but I’m not so sure he didn’t learn something after the fact,and for some unknown reason isn’t saying what.
I don’t think it’s enough to throw them in jail. We need answers, and we need to find Haleigh. To find her alive would be a miracle, but either way we need to bring her home. If she can’t have the life she deserves, she should atleast have a proper resting place and the funeral she deserves.
Simon, I agree with you whole heartedly about the hired guns, lap dogs etc… These are the ones responsible along with some others that has caused this case to turn into the fiasco, disgusting criminal deeds and acts of grown ups that obviously never had tragedy visit their lives. In a case such as this, the wolves came out from minute one. Then the slackers, intruders and know it alls with agendas. Shame on everyone of them.
I missed the show, can someone kindly give a re-cap, would be much appreciated and would Bless my heart with your kindness. Hugs
Methinks, I completely agree with you and while it would be a miracle to bring Haleigh home alive, or bring her remains home, I would not hold my breath. Two self centered people are at the core of this crime, neither one of them are going to budge. So, in that almost a year has passed since the little darling was last seen, I’ll take what little justice is offered and be thankful that law enforcement snagged their arses in a way that would take two criminals off the streets.
I don’t know how anyone on this planet can believe Ronald Cummings has no inkling as to what happened to Haleigh. But I respect your opinion and realize some people have to see the murder itself to be convinced of the guilt. In my opinion, this lowlife knows exactly what happened to his daughter, but he will never speak of it, nor will his ex wife. They made it this far w/out saying a word and playing the “I dunno” game, why give it up now?
Remember Ronalds very own words? “Haleigh, I love you and I will never give up on you” errr, looks like he can’t keep his word on anything. How about the old interview w/Geraldo, where people said how awful Geraldo was for nailing Ron on his lies concerning his drug usage? Looks like Geraldo wasn’t so far off the mark.
Shacking up w/underage girls, popping pills, selling dope, stealing donation jars, getting engaged, getting married, getting tattoos, partying it up w/Misty when he is suppose to be keeping his distance, how does that help find his daughter? The guy is responsible from the tip of his toes to the tip of his noggin. Bank on it.
My own opinion.
i can’t remember everything that was discussed. My alzheimers is kickin’ in. They did talk about the bonds and the players. They discussed Donna Brocks involvement and the secret taping. I know that I came away with a good feeling. I think it was TJ that said he thought this week might be a big week. Things might happen. It was a good show. I wasn’t very much help, was I?
methinks, you tried, and that’s good enough for me Darlin. What did TJ say that has given you guys some “hope” as I’ve read several posts saying this same thing as you have? Hope sure would be nice, and I’m glad you have some from listening, I missed the show sadly, had company, but I have been listening lately and enjoying every minute of it. Missed my buds that join in also. Thanks for helping.
I posted a recap on the other thread. Quite a few good tid-bits….left most feeling really good about the comming days and closure on Haleigh’s case.
Well, I had posted it here in this thread but it has been removed so I guess recaps are a no-no…..I thought just the highlights would be ok, but I guess not. It was a very good show….check it out.
DId I mis-quote someone?
which thread Hollys, I’ll go look now Darlin? Thanks so much, you’re always a wealth of information and help to others here continually.
Kool Look you know you can listen to the show afterwards in the recording if you click on the shortcut in the article or off to the right of the article on Blog radio. Great show and full of info. Love the panel I for one am glad we get to know each of you who are on it because it makes me feel like a family here. I worry though now that the group in jail now will lesson what we can talk about if the rest of the family doesn’t mess up. This might shut us down ? Hope not. Hope we can talk about this until Haleigh comes home. Which I believe will happen and how the tears will flow when she gets out of that cop car to run to family. Some of her family has lost hope in her being alive but all they need is a little incouragement after such a long time not knowing they are like all of us having to face that there is a chance she won’t come home. I’m not giving up on it though. Jaycee Dugard taught a very important lesson in the dangers in giving up. Giving up on looking for her didn’t make the abuse she suffered daily get any less or stop.
Kool Look;
I could have sworn I posted it here. I had included a rather graphic description of the whole foot injection thingy, so maybe it was pulled due to that. It was breifly mentioned, I think Simon had asked if anyone had any idea about it and no one did. I have done some exstensive research through-out this case and especially in the last 2 or 3 days LOL! So anyway, I had wanted to answer the question but maybe I shouldn’t have. I still am unsure about whether it was due to a mis-quote.
Talked about Cobra & the issue with the “Out West” bail bonds co. Later Simon mentioned Vegas and TJ said that city’s name had come up.
Talked about Donna B needing a public defender and why since her husband has money & they own a lot of property. I suggested that if she called home to tell him she’d been arrestted and for what, she probably is headed for Divorce court, so she would have no money or backing from her husband.
Brief mention of TM = Hard working days and some rough nights.
TJ had to stop himself from telling us a little more then we should know, lol! Darn it!
Mention of quote by LE about
““It’s really too early in the case to know if it is the break,” Greenwood said. “I’m going to be honest, we hope [it is].”
I think this may have been the miss-quote. I thought I hear TJ say something else, I guess.
anyway….It’s a MUST listen.
Anyone remember when Ron was saying early on “I can’t do what I want to do” ? I thought immediately about drugs. There’s nothing worse for an addict then to have everybody watching them. Now, I could be wrong about this statement, he could have meant something else but the only thing that comes immediately to mind is that he had someone in mind to go after. Misty? Someone known only to him?
What do you guys think?
Hollys Gmom said,in January 24th, 2010 at 10:25 pm thank you for the highlights! 😀 great idea!!!
you know what, i always feel so blessed to have never become a drug addict! the educational part of your post is just a reminder of one more length some addicts go to! i really pray someone comes up with the answers or ways to slow or stop the abuse of drugs! the total consequences to everyone touched by it are obscene!
Remember Misty saying on that voice stress analysis, kind of out of the blue: “When someone comes in and puts a gun in your mouth and tells you not to tell,” then she shakes her head, big eyed and says ” nuh uh”. This reminds me of all of the women and Tim Miller, who tells us of Ronald’s threats of suicide. He put a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger to scare them. He apparently had a fascination of putting a gun in his mouth. If he did that to himself, he would think of threatening a woman that way, also.
I really think, Ronald was involved in this child’s death. It was probably an accident, but I think he was involved and was in on the cover-up. The 9-1-1 tape background tells us that.
I believe Misty will talk, if she feels Ron is going to be locked up for years.
Hi ms.peridot!
Yes, drug addiction must be a terrible thing. I believe that there can be a genetic factor in addiction, because it seems to run in some families.
Some people seem to have a craving that others don’t have for addictive substances.
Methinks:
I think T.J. gave off the impression that he couldn’t tell all that he knew, but something was coming. I am really curious to see who all gets arrested in the “more arrests coming” that LE said was about to happen.
HGM:
I think the cameras and everyone looking for Haleigh was cramping Ron’s style. He couldn’t get by with anything with all of those cameras following him. The strange thing was that he kept putting himself on the NG show and taking her insults and hard questioning. Was that all for show? Why did he stop making appearances? I know he and Misty are good at saying and doing things to throw people off.
I was listening to those tapes of Ron’s either trying to run someone off the road, or being run off the road. There were 2 kids in the pickup with Ron and Misty. One was probably Jr., and I thought thank God Jr. is out of that. I hope for the best with Crystal. He was in danger living with Ron. GGSykes couldn’t keep down all of the danger with Ron being so out of control.
karon, about the gun in the mouth, that is unfortunately verrry interesting. ughhh! you are right, it sure has been a theme with different people mentioning it. and then for misty to mention it that way??? as if someone had done that to her??? most people would say having a gun pointed at me or having a gun on me.
and i just have felt that misty was helped to change parts of her story about what happened that night. people keep making jokes about misty being a druggie but, i think she knows exactly what she said. was she encouraged to change the version for some reason. and i keep asking myself what are all the possible reasons for her or someone (most likely ronald) helping her to change her story. the greta interview made me think r.c. was correcting her story. he seemed very on top of what she was saying. and she looked like she did not appreciate it. why would he do that? (she is the one who had to live with the changes and answer why to everyone!) and he sure did not help her with Meredith Vieira. she looked abandoned
i think misty told the 911 operator and the first p.officer the same story. it changed some after that?
and i believe ronald’s timeline version of picking up haleigh from the bus stop and getting to work on time are just impossible?
also the 1/2 hour crying misty did with wayann? i am not sure what to make of that.
all the stress going on with r & m fighting and making up. (is nay nay story true – r had jut hurt misty physically?) haleigh having missed to much school. and having to go to grandma’s to get clean clothes. it “feels” like those last few days everything was a lot for them to deal with.
so i am still wondering if rc was involved or knows something. i keep hoping the police know more and really have cleared him.
Karon Cox said,in January 25th, 2010 at 6:30 am
i agree with there can be a genetic connection. it seems like a double whammy for some people! being exposed to drinking and/or drugs and being more vulnerable to addiction.
and yes yes about tj. i would love to be privy to what he knows. he does seem to be hopeful about the arrests and possible new information!
well this week could be very interesting. if they have anything to tell, boy they better be the first one to talk. (but they need proof, sooo?)
i really hope donna’s tapes turn out to have helpful info on them. but, i wonder if db”s tapes were her insurance to do WHATEVER SHE WANTED (not just trying to be a self proclaimed undercover p.i.) because if she got caught she had something on tape she thought would be a get out of jail free card? so live it up!!! oh i am sooo cynical!!!
HollysGmom said,in January 25th, 2010 at 5:00 am
yes. why would anyone want the media to go away in “a child went missing in the middle of the night” case? it did seem personal about him, ronald. maybe rc DID want to get info out of misty “some way”. since i can’t stop being suspicious of rc, i would guess drugs or he just wanted to go back to a personal life. or maybe all the talk about him being with a 17 year old was scaring him. this may be silly of me, but, could r & m have gotten married again? why is misty under misty cummings in the jail??? it must be her legal name and when they divorced it was changed to croslin.
hopefully answers will come forward this week!
Methinks-Great post. 12:40/12:49 am
I agree with what you wrote. Ronald had nothing to do with her disaperance, however, he may have an inkling as to where or what happened.
So the real life soap plays out. Who squeals first?? I say Ron. Misty is way too stupid to do the “right thing”.
And that DB, I hope she is happy with her “15 minutes of fame”. Shame on her.
karon, i am happy for ronald jr. to get to be with his mom, sister and other family members now. (i am sure it is a temporary ruling??? since it came from a emergency hearing.) but, i too agree jr. has been through too much! i do believe jr. being with crystal would be safer. besides the possible suicide talk, there just has been too much going on in r.c. sr’s life. and on top of all that, i guess das had to go to the hospital once or twice this week with her health issues. (not sure if it is morn/night the same trip?) everything this whole family has been through!
I think the cameras and everyone looking for Haleigh was cramping Ron’s style
Truer words never spoken!! Anyone with a past like Ron has, has to walk around paranoid about everything.
As far as the drugs go, he is an addict. He had no choice but to involve himself in the role of “dealer”, whether he was being watched or not. Jmo
Bunch of messed up people.
Hopefully there are remains somewhere, and Haleigh can be brought home and rest in peace.
According to grandma’s fb statement, Jr is adjusting, playing outside with the other kids.
good morning boldone3, that is great news!
Good Morning ms.peridot….did you happen to see the interview this morning on the Today show with Ron’s mother??
I missed it. Would like a recap..
no i missed it too. this is posted on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=iU4aJ5AELDQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU4aJ5AELDQ
Hi, BOLDONE3! think you can see it for yourself right now at the link below. It’s the story in the box on the left with Haleigh’s photo. I think that’s the one you’re referring to.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com
you can go to Today show.com and listen to this mornings show.
That’s right looking for justice. I posted the link right above your comment. Although I don’t know how long the story will stay there.
m2c what was your take on the interview?
Ron must not be addicted because if he were he would not be able to give an interview. Withdraw (IF YOU RESEARCH IT) is really horrific, some of the side affects are vomiting, diahria, shakes, intense body aches,
etc. its not very pretty. From what I heard on the show Misty must be going into withdraws.
Cant really say that I feel sorry for her or any of these people. You have to remember that they were selling drugs that could have killed some other person. Did anyone else get the reference to another party getting brought in ,possible relative from out of state? There are only two that I can think of hmmmm. jmo
I truely feel sorry for Rons mother!
We all feel sorry for Teresa. But evidently her son doesnt give a rats a@@ how this is affecting her. moo
Hi, looking for justice! I agree with Tanya.
It seemed to me that TN’s heart is breaking and watching that interview broke my heart, too.
One specific thing is that she is not taking the opportunity to blame it all on Misty which would be easy to do. She goes with what LE says – that Misty knows something. And TN also said she could not believe Misty’s “done something on purpose.” (meaning harmed Haleigh on purpose). I think that’s natural and understandable also.
Too too sad. Really.
M2C, I fell terrible for TN but she is not a good judge of character so what she says has no merit. Her own son was dealing drugs and is putting her through hell on top of Haleigh being missing. He never said anything about the people he has hurt or how he is sorry.
He should have said he made a horrible mistake and how sorry he is to be putting his family through all of this but he does not care. jmo
I hope that she is seeing a grief counciler just in case this all comes out to be on her son. She may need to be prepared for a worse shock. She just needs to be ready in my opinion.
m2c♥-thxs
Clearly Teresa is RAW with emotion. Her world as she has known it has changed drastically this past year. I think we all feel for her, however, (I don’t think Ron hurt his child!!)Ron’s lifestyle is unacceptable. Anyone who puts a roof over his head has to have their own head examined. You can love your child, unconditionally, that is fine. But the way he has chosen to continue to live his life this past year is sickening. And to subject another child to it?? No Ron, ya didn’t kill your kid. But the way you live your life, it would only be a matter of time before Jr would be next.
Why does he live with his grandma instead of mother??
Sorry if I seemed hard in my last post. We all, or at least I have, made some stupid choices in my life. But I learned from them. Ronald didnt’
As far as the drug charges go…if Ron knew anything, or any of them knew what happened they could make a sweet sweet deal and probably walk away.
It won’t Misty. She is too stupid, and a junkie to know the truth.
Maybe Ron?? Maybe the DB?? If they know, they will talk.
m2c I was in tears watching Teresa fall apart. Tobias I also agree with you about Ron.
One more question……lol
More arrests this week?? Any clue who that is??
KP made a statement that she was glad to hear Crystal had regained custody and that Jr. was in a safer place. You can read the article at Palatka daily news.com. Headline reads mother regains custody.
Teresa is greiving because she knows HaLeigh is gone and her son is responsible of minimum leaving his children with his teenage drug whore to maximum being involved in a coverup of an accidental overdose to something worse. TN and GGMS both know and that’s why she covers for Ron, just like Cindy Anthony she doesn’t want to lose another one. Pathetic family and Jr is better of with his mom and GMA Marie.
I agree Tobias! But unfortunatly addicts dont know the problems they caused or the people they hurt till they are well over there drug problems!
If Ron can do an interview he is not addicted.
He would be going through withdraws like the rest of them. Ron is just a drug user and a dealer. He is not addicted. Look up what happens when you go through withdraw from oxicodone, its pretty horrific, thats why no one else is being interviewed. Ron is looking out for Ron and he could care less about his Mom or he would not be where he is.
Boldone, TJ made reference to relatives from out of state and we all know two people who live out of state. One is in Mass. and the other is in Tenn. Hmmmmm. jmo
Tobias-I agree, Ron is a user/dealer NOT an addict.
Mass – Misty brother ?
Tenn – ??? HELP ME HERE!
I wonder if Misty will finally wake up. She is so deluded by Ron that she got a tribal tatoo with his name above it on her lower back. Sounds like she is still hoping for a extended love relationship with him. Its almost like ownership in my opinion. If she is innocent she better wake up and quick. Maybe a visit from Lindsy or Chelsea would help? JMO
Tanya 2:06-smart comment!
Tanya 2:06-smart comment!
Joe Overstreet
Tanya 2:06-smart comment!
Justone 2:01- another great comment!!
cousin Joe
I do wonder why she is going with the LE theme.
Before she was claiming Misty drug Ronnies butt into this. Maybe she was told by his lawyers not to comment on his drug dealing arrest and instead point at Misty? Was this damage control? She needs to stop doing interviews they are making her look bad.jmo
I was just thinking of something and some people may really get mad at me but I have to say it. Is there any interview where TN is not sobbing? Is she always in the state of intense crying or is it for the cameras? I know Iknow but I had to put it out there because its just
that she is the only one that is still out of control and sobbing on video. We did see one video with her not crying it was when she was talking about the wedding. jmo
In the recent video I believe she is crying because she has lost Ron and Junior. And she is not blaming Ron for that you can be sure it is all Mistys fault. She is hurtintg and I feel for her but she needs to place that blame with her son.jmo
looking at 1:58, isn’t it interested that KP can’t decide which side of the mouth to talk out of, or keep up with what she last said??? She is now, “glad to hear that Crystal got Jr that he is now in a safer place”. Yet on her bar defense AGAINST Crystal she stated that she could not help Crystal file for custody because it was such a danger to Jr because of Crystal’s drug use. WOW!!! What a liar, I mean lawyer!!!!
From what I have read Crystal was given a drug test before the emergency custody decision and passed it. Evidently she has cleaned up her act so lets give her some credit. I am sure there will be manditory checks on her getting drug tested. imo
Treece, you have the info wrong Kp did not want to lie about her drug use and lose her license to practice law. And she was more or less between a rock and a hard place with Marie insisting on going forward. I wished Crystal could have cleaned her drug problem up sooner and none of this would have happened with her and KP. Dont get me wrong KP should have left long before the custody battle in my opinion.
Also none of that would have been made public if Maie wouldd have just dropped it but no she went after KP because KP would not lie for her.jmo
gosh darn it, i was hoping someone would explain to me that it is a mistake that misty is in jail under cummings. did they get remarried privately???
Tobias, my point is if KP wouldn’t go after custody because she knew the drug use was so bad then why is she now saying she is glad Crystal has Jr and he is in a better place.
karon mentioned a genetic make-up can be involved.
http://www.abovetheinfluence.com/facts/learn-more-about-drugs-printable.aspx Your Most-Frequently-Asked Questions about Drug Use and Addiction
How many times does someone have to take a drug to become an addict?
“No one knows. A person’s genetic makeup plays a role. That’s why some people seem to get addicted almost immediately, but for others, it takes more time. There is a lot we still don’t know about who becomes addicted and why, and after how much drug exposure. We do know that each person is different, so it’s a little like playing a game of chance if you choose to use drugs. But, if you do, the earlier you stop, the more likely you will be to avoid addiction and the harmful brain changes that lead to it.”
okay last part i will post same article
Your Most-Frequently-Asked Questions about Drug Use and Addiction
“Here’s the science behind it: With repeated drug use, dopamine function in a drug abuser’s brain becomes abnormal. Because dopamine is involved in feelings of pleasure and motivation, the person feels flat, lifeless, and depressed when they are not taking the drug. Without drugs, an abuser’s life seems joyless. Now the abuser needs drugs just to bring dopamine levels up to normal levels. They need it just to get them close to where they were before they even tried drugs in the first place. Larger amounts of the drug are needed to create a dopamine flood or high, an effect known as tolerance.”
Tobias/Boldone im not saying hes an addict but if he used drugs whether it be once a week once a month he will not care about who he hurts or what problems he causes! Until he is clean from drugs whether being dealer user or addict and yes not all people go through withdrawals the same! Some people can sleep it off! Do i think Ronald is an addict no but if he is on near or around drugs his mentality may seem to be much more about me me me! Which i have seen since day one! I dont think Ron harmed Haleigh in anyway but i think he might have an idea of what happened!
Tobias you were speaking of damage control. Like when everyone was silent for two and a half months prior to the altercation between Ron and Tommy and the ratgate incident. Then all of a sudden they were in the media hot n heavy until after the Maury show and then no media interviews. They went silent again, except to comment on the holidays without Haleigh, but this was Teresa not Ron. It does seem they come to the media after Ron gets into real trouble. It may be they want the spotlight on Misty for Haleighs disappearance. I cannot see any damage control for Rons drug related charges. I just hope they do not get paid any high dollar amounts to try and get Ron out. I truely believe Teresa is heartbroken, but Ron is her son.
Is there an official report by an objective third party (like a reporter or someone) about what happened at the custody hearing?
All I’ve been able to find that’s official was the ruling.
m2c I found an article at palatks daily news.com The headline reads mother regains custody.
I do not know if Misty and Ron got re-married secretly but I did hear the judge call her Misty Cummings and she did not correct him.
Have any of you listened to Watts up on blog talk radio? It is enlightening. So is Levi Page show. I believe we are going to be in for the truth soon. jmo
m2c I am sorry . The headline reads Haleighs mother regains custody of girls brother.
Tanya – I agree…he most certainly enjoys his drugs. I just don’t think he is at the point where he is physically addicted as Misty is. Maybe his tolerance is higher because he has been doing drugs longer….all I know, is that until a person is clean of EVERYTHING, they are clueless about what is going on around them. And they hurt the people who love them the best.
Misty didn’t love Ron. Where would she of learned love from?
Tobias I have not yet listened. I am hoping to tomorrow. Can you enlighten us anyways?
well kp may have posted that document out of personal feelings but, because it is also a defense of her legal skills and since this case is so public it probably is considered alright. (i am guessing) and kp would look very unprofessional to be holding a grudge against her past client at this point. i think we have to let all the cards play out and hopefully the truth will win out.
we don’t know what that document is all about. i thought it said chloe was born with pain meds in her. (not addicted as some have suggested.) for all we know cs was prescribed those meds. (? for migraines for example?) and for all we know crystal was using drugs again when haleigh went missing because of the inability to cope. i really don’t know what the truth is. i am not trying to make excuses. i am questioning taking info from posters on a blog and accepting it as fact. such as what a bad mother cs is. we have to hear both sides fairly to know the whole truth. and that is not going to happen on a blog.
i understand people being concerned, but, find it odd, some people are not as concerned about the same thing with rc. this should not be about a popularity contest. it should be about the child/children.
this morning i came across a post that made me really question if bloggers could harm ronald jr. by their resentment for cs and their bias towards ron. you know, making accusations against cs to help ron out.
i started to look through previous posts, and saw others were calling this blogger out on her bias. i felt better others saw she was not looking at facts. i then realized most people have common sense and will not be trying to rile people up based on their personal likes and dislikes.
i am sorry the second part of my post is a rant mostly because of one person. i will stop about it for now!
i see m2c is looking for the facts on the hearing. could it be considered private due to it being about a minor?
Tim miller was on and tells about Misty and Rons behavior during the time he was there. Some of it we didnt hear. Awoman named Donna is on that heard the tapes from Donna Brock. Her story on what she heard may shock you.
My opinion on what Misty and Ron were up to in the months before this was to cash in on Haleigh being missing, but that is only my opinion on what I heard in the program. You have to draw your own conclussions when you hear it. jmo
looking for justice said,in January 25th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
that is an interesting point misty did not correct being addressed as cummings.
i thought the papers posted on the internet said that misty changed her name back to croslin again when they divorced. hmmmm? i wonder if that was incorrect info or if they have remarried.
just wondering if they are married, if there is any legal difference in the cases against them. i would guess, since they both have charges it would not play a factor?
She was probably to lazy to file the papers to get her name changed back to Croslin and her Drivers license and her social security card etc. So she is still Misty Cummings legally not Mrs. Ronald Cummings.And in her mind why do it they were planning on reconciling in the future anyways.jmo
After listening to the watts up program I feel that Haleigh is gone and no matter how much we wished she was alive it doesnt look good. These two know what happened and the others know pieces of it. Whether they will talk who knows? jmo
oh i didn’t think of that. about changing everything. i just looked at divorce papers and she signed misty cummings. i did not see a name change paper. maybe i remembered that wrong.
thank you for the reminder to listend to watts up with this! i will do that tonight.
have a good evening everyone!
Ms P:
“i see m2c is looking for the facts on the hearing. could it be considered private due to it being about a minor?”
Very accurate….
ALso TJ checks his facts, that’s one thing you can trust on. If HE says Chrystal took a drug test at court then she did. Also the other reporter stated it as well.
I gotta go listen to Levi Page’s show.
When grandparents are more concerned for their child then their grandchild….it’s just wrong. Even IF Ron is innocent in these recent charges )I don’t think he is) he is still a danger to Jr due to all of the uproar in Ron’s life. Possibly from people who just want to hurt Ron. Also, if TN & GGMA want to EVER see Jr again they’d better stop pointing fingers and start mending fences. I don’t have much sympathy if they continue to try to blame everyone else, including Crystal for the current state of afairs. It bothers me that due to TN’s pain we are all supposed to take it easy on Ron. I would be a mess to if my child was wrapped up in all of this new tangle, but would MY pain overide the pain my child may have caused others? Heck no!
Was the Levi show mentioned the one where he said he’d play the clips? I hear the last one already.
For those who want an update on Cobra’s case:
A new article just posted from TJ.
I’ve always trusted TJ more than any other reporter ever involved in this case. I must have missed his report on that.
All I’ve seen about it is from BNN Article 123618 Jan 23
TJ: “An emergency hearing was held Thursday to determine who should obtain custody of HaLeigh’s little brother, Ronald Cummings, Jr. after the elder Cummings’ arrest, according to reports on News 4 Jax. Crystal Sheffield, the mother of both HaLeigh and Ronald Jr. was awarded custody of the boy, and was allowed to pick him up on Friday afternoon, according to the post made by Marie Griffis on her Facebook page.”
But that was not the point of my comment.
I’m wondering if the Sheffields had some advance notice that this would be coming. It’s possible. I don’t know.
Also, yes, that was my other point. I think custody hearings are private. So at least some of what we “hear” about what went on has to be somewhat questionable.
tobias, thank you for the warning. i am one of those that have been hanging on to hope. even though i relize it looked very bad and it probably does involve those closest to hc, i wanted to believe the best was possible till proven otherwise.
i did hear the police changing their statement about looking for a living or dead child. also the having confidence they know what really happened (without actually having the child.) and they are hoping for that last piece of the puzzle to be revealed now.
when was it that the police said they had new information on the case and they needed to check with crystal and family on some facts? i don’t remember hearing they did the same with ronald and family.
Ms Peridot: A lot of divorced women do not change their name back to their maiden name.
Some do.
m2c♥, i am not sure what your “that was not the point of my comment”. (i am suppose to be hurrying out the door, so??? i am confused) if that was directed at me, what i posted was just my 2 cents about kp.
i did wonder too if the sheffields have been figuring things out or know what is going on.
but, ahhh, i do see now people will be all over crystal for being clean because she knew it was a possibility. oh lord, it never ends. this is so heartbreaking.
and m2c we are making the same point about not really knowing the truth! i agree! thanks for trying to find out what we can know!
hgm ty for the heads up on cobra info
i though it was in a newspaper article that misty chose to change her name back. i may have remembered that wrong.
Hi, Ms. P! Actually I posted my 6:32pm comment on the wrong thread! LOL! So no wonder you thought it might be in response to one of your comments! I am SO sorry. Just ignore that whole post please.
My comment at 6:36 though was meant to offer some kind of reason for the name thing.
I’ve been confused about Misty’s current name too because even in some news reports it’s been shown as Croslin and other info shows it as Cummings. I didn’t realize that there had been a news article stating that she’d changed it back. That could very well be true.
And also I did not mean to be “all over” Crystal about being clean. Totally separate from that I was surprised at how prepared the Sheffields were for that hearing – at least according to what’s been blogged about it. And of course I shouldn’t take all that as gospel.
Plus I figured that a custody hearing IS private so that’s why I was questioning a LOT of the “info” that was coming out about it (lots of comments lately on the blog, you know?)
(I still have not found where TJ reported about Crystal but someone said he did, so that’s fine).
Have a great evening, Ms. P, and I’m sorry for my goof and that it upset and confused you.
Entirely my fault. I apologize!
Tobias-who is Watts??
Sorry this is the only site I come to.
Please share if you would.
I beleive Haleigh is gone too. But I am still hoping a body or something will be found.
HollysGmom at 6:30 pm
For those who want an update on Cobra’s case:
A new article just posted from TJ.
Where??
Thank You!!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this
here is a link if you want it.
i cannot answer about who he is to much. he knows donna brock, so at one point he was getting an exclusive with misty awhile back.
http://www.bloggernews.net/123640
Putnam Co. Trial for Bondsman/P.I. Cobra Staubs Moved to March
i don’t know how some keep up with it all lol.
Boldone3, I don’t know if they are still on line but I can answer for you.
Watts is steph watts, he has a talk show in BTR.
Cobra – at the top of this page if you will enter his name in the search and then click the search tab it will take you to the new article about his trial being postponed again. Just FYI
m2c♥, thanks for explaining. sometimes i do get a little lost here. lol!
i am sooo sorry about what this family is going through! when it comes to junior, i wish people would be extra careful not to assume we know all the facts. last night i was rereading an article and teresa said junior was concerned they not forget to buy haleigh presents for chirstmas.
personally i wish for junior to continue to have everyone in his life. but, i am not going to judge the decisions made for his welfare by crystal based on what we read on the blogs. i wish the adults could help him adjust and not use him in their adult issues. sometimes people just have to step back and let the parents parent. if crystal has ongoing issues, maybe she will not get custody. for juniors sake i hope all is well. and i hope all of haleigh’s family can start to heal soon.
Ms P: Exactly…let the healing between these LADYS begin. (I say ladys as I hope ALL of them start to conduct themselves as such.) The accusations against Crystal aren’t going to help, not here. If someone feels they have legitiamt honest proof of her wrong doings please make a call. If not try to feel ok about that fact that anyone, at any time, can report her for drugs or any other offense and then if it is found true, they will get Jr back. It could happen but it must be proven first. Even if she has custody now it is tnetative upon conditions. Whether we all know it or not ALL of our parental rights are tentative under those same conditions.
No abuse, adequate care, & no drug/alcohol abuse, stay out of jail.
Parental blame: Wow, Misty’s parents catch heck about what Misty’s mistakes are but Ron’s Parent(s) & Grandma only get sympathy for his. Now I know the Croslins are criminals and the other two are not, so some of it is understandable, but still some how unbalanced.
If Misty is incorrigable due to her parents, what is Ron’s excuse? Whether he was convicted of previous charges or not, he had been arrested a lot! So there was some kind of wrong-doing going on. He’s no Saint and WE ALL know it. Neither is Crystal and WE ALL know it. However Crystal IS the unincarcerated parent thus she gets custody. I think Crystal “got clean” just before the Barr complaint. She & her camps seemed to suddenly start using their heads, but JMO.
I think TJ told aboutthe ddrug test on the radio show last night, sorry about the mis-direct to the quote. I DO know that the other reporter DID say she took one (not Art-FirstCoast or JAX) I’ll try to find the actual link and make sure TJ did say it last night.
Hgmom, I am sure you aren’t referring to me because that is not what I have done. I have not blamed Misty’s parents for her behavior. I blame them for their own behavior, their own choices and what THEY have or haven’t done as a parent.
I do not see Teresa N doing those same things, nor do I have any knowledge of her raising Ron the way Misty was raised. So NO I don’t blame her for Ron’s choices.
You want to know what I wish for these CHILDREN (All of them)? For their families to make an honest attempt to unite for their sakes. I know plenty of people who take time with their child’s or grandchild’s other siblings. Even ones born into the new marriage/union. WHy can’t it be that TN & Crystal build such a good relationship that they all could enjoy one another? Why has it been so divided until even still? You don’t have to love her, just try to respect her. Both women, to one another. Disrespecting the child’s mother is disrespecting the child , and so goes for father. Especially from family members and those in close contact with the child(ren). Some think it will be hurtfull for the children to grow up and one day read the things that are said about their family members. It might be true, but I think they will have a lot more hurt trying to come to grips with the war between their families, the life they’ve led up until now, & the fact that after one child had been kidnapped and kept for a year, the father went out and sold drugs and all of the other crazy stuff that has gone on.
No, I wasn’t speaking about anyone specific. I was actually saying that I DO understand some slack being given to TN since she doesn’t havea bad history. Just that if we judge Misty & her actions by her upbringing, why is that same standard not ok for ROn? What IS his excuse for his behavior? Msity lured him in? Does that even sound right? Why would he be so gullable and why get involved?
oh boy! you said it!!!
” Disrespecting the child’s mother is disrespecting the child , and so goes for father. Especially from family members and those in close contact with the child(ren)”
i completely believe in that. thank you for saying that holly’s gmom!!!
I feel badly for ALL the other family members but Ron. He’s a grown-up. He made his bed, he can lie in it. TN, Crystal, GGMA, Marie, everyone, especially Jr. They ALL have lost Haleigh. They ALL are going through terrible times. They ALL are making adjustments, maybe even painfull ones. I’m sorry that TN & GGMA are taking it all so hard. I truely am. I do feel that these two women have never made Crystal’s life easier or even tried to make the situation any better. In fact, I feel sure they made things between the parents worse. I could be wrong, but that is my current impression. DId they work to try to make Haleigh & Jr’s relationship with BOTH parents easier or better? Did they make Crystal the bad guy? Did they even try to find out what was going on with Crystal before the first custody hearing (Sleeping alot, couldn’t get out of bed, missed school & appointments) Were they ever concerned it might have been post-partum depression? I mean Jr was just an infant still. It could explain everything. Not just that she was bad or lazy, but really sick. Only sick in a way that could be reasily helped and improved. It looks like to me they saw a way to get the kids and that’s all they cared about. Not the real welfare of the child(ren) just that Ron would get “ownership” and get to be the major influence on them.
It just makes me angry when one or both make excuses for Ron. They don’t have to say anything at all, in his defense, or otherwise. A “No comment” quote would have had my total respect. The Misty is the problem defense makes me angry. Not just because she is younger than him. He needs to take some responsibility for his own actions and they need to try to make him do so. Tough love, it hurts (hence the name) but can be highly effective.
Are we being emotionally blackmailed to not talk about Ron & his recent arrest due to TN’s pain? If we speculate against him, in any way, it’s a personal afront to TN? Then don’t tell her. I can see where it’s not fair to “blame” TN or family members about Ron’s mistakes. We should still discuss the Haleigh case and how this “parralell” case impacts it or not.
Ms P;
It is THE 1st thing a person is taught in parenting classes/mediation when going through a divorce. It’s too bad this kind of thing isn’t court mandated for unmarried who have children.
ms.peridot19/Treece
Thanks!!!
Good Morning!
Please, please, please don’t forget, this TN is the same TN who vehemently stated what a wonderful girl Misty was, how she was the ‘BEST’ mom to those children EVER. GGM Sykes is the same person who told the world it was “time for something happy to happen” pertaining to Ron & Misty’s wedding. Excuse after excuse after excuse was handed out for both of these drug heads, never a word uttered in either one of them taking responsibility, ever. While I feel for the grandma’s, they have done nothing but enable the two of them since Haleigh disappeared and THAT is what pisses me off to no end.
I hope that TJ posts the answer to the question posed during the radio show, ” How much money/cash was found on the defendants when they were arrested? “. He did say he had to look it up but thought he had the amount in his notes.
Does anyone know whose car Misty “lured” Ron into when they were arrested? He said someone he knew called him over and when he got in Misty was in the car. The car must have had some dark tinted windows if he couldn’t see Misty until he got in the car.
I assumed it was the undercover officer that had infiltrated the pill selling clique, to buy some more pills
Ron set Misty up.
me, it looks to me like Misty is the one tied to the UC. She is the one that UC called and the one that took everyone else around the UC. Whatever happened it is sad.
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