nice job stone

AM, That’s a nice thought, you are kidding right?

misty was washing the blankets the nite of the disapearance….is there a something in that?

ron is hiding something very dark and misty knows what it is and she was rewarded with marriage.

there are no leads leading away from ron. his personality comes across as very controlling, overly macho and with a weasel like countenance as if in HIS WORLD he is king and that is all we need to know.
his mother, teresa neves (notice that no-one has the same last name in this family) leaves a similar impression on me – she is always standing by with a very tense appearance as if she needs to be on the alert to stop something potentially violent – her entire family appears to be like ticking time bombs ready to go off…and not because the child is missing but more like it is the normal family dynamic. someone in the family is very violent – did ron learn that behaviour or is it just him?

Anyone check to see when the last day Haleigh was at school? And how she looked? In the beginning it was said she missed so much school (recently), that Ron was in jeporady of loosing her. I believe there was a court date coming up regarding this right before Haleigh was missing. I think he beat the child days before she went missing & disposed of her. Missy was washing blankets because Haleigh wet them.

If i were lead detective on this case,i would clamp down on that family like a pitbull on a pork chop.My theories.
1.Doors don’t open by themselves,someone had keys,hid inside or misty&ronald are involved,or misty wasn’t home,left door open child wakes up to go find her,walks around neighborhood and perv happens by,only 4 choices.
2.Person is probably some type of construction worker,given that the cadav dogs hit on dumpster,body may have been moved in a hurry or called in false by perv.
3.Person lives close,i’d say within a mile and is familiar with area well,a neighbors friend or family not to exclude.
4.I feel the person parked from afar,walked to the trailer took child,left on foot and drove away in car.
5.I also think child is still alive because,the perv is scared and police are hot and they can’t move around undetected and because it’s still in the media.
6.I think both kids were all in one bed that night and the toddler matt on the floor was a misty after-thought

Mr.Obvious there is a serial killer called the Anniversary Killer he works construction or they believe its from ALabama he is believed to be in Florida now…not sure why anyways…he abducts/murders girls from low income girls from trailer parks all near construction sites. Just a thought! 🙂 The only difference is the ages of the first 3 known abductions and Haleigh’s age..and time of year…The first three were all in August some years apart and they were all 11. Its a thinker! 🙂

My prayers are with this family and finding this little girl. I myself have been watching from day one. I do not believe dad had anything to do with this. I do believe girlfriend may be hinding somehing but given her age hard to say. She is child herself. I am heartbroken over the birth mother trying her legal case of custody on the tv. This focus should be on finding this little girl, period. If, IF, there was any type of abuse in that home up to this point then shame on her for not speaking up before this. As a parent, I really found strange that Ron would marry in middle of this but as a mother, I find even worse Crystal allowing children to be taken away from her and put with ‘so-called’ abusive parent.

Praying for this little girl

I know by experience that an injury around the eye many not be black right away. It may not turn black or green until the next day or a few days down the road. Anytime there is an injury around the eye, even if it is closer to the nose, it can turn the eye black. But I do agree that something is not right in the disapperance of little Haleigh. Why has no one been cleared by the cops? Why does Haleigh’s biological mother not seem that upset?

Biological mom is not behaving as most mom’s would in this situation. Lots of fake crying. Sort of “Susan Smith” like. None of these folks are behaving appropriately. Ron’s first remarks to 911 – “I’m gonna kill ’em if I find ’em first.” Misty washing sheets is probably normal, but in the footage of the bedroom, there is no pillowcase on Haileigh’s pillow, which casts some doubt on that story. I just read a story about a van being moved on the night of the kidnapping. It was very conflicting. Also, Misty nearly points a finger at a relative who spent the night. I can’t imagine a family member killing a child, but this family has cast the net over themselves. It doesn’t help that they appear to have a combined IQ of 50. I’m not trying to judge, I just think they never should have been allowed to have children at all.

I am 99% sure that this NOT an abduction. Ron’s “discipline” got out of hand and a tragedy occurred. When that happened, he did what he has done for years, he called for his Momma. This is why she is never too far away when he meets the public (she went on the so-called honeymoon). Misty lied at first to protect Ron but now must continue the lie to protect herself both from the police and Ron. Crystal is, well, just Crystal. A lowlife that will use this sad tragedy to gain attention and dollars. She never really cared about her children a whole lot which is proven by the fact that she left them in an abusive home. This is just one of many (too many) stories of child abuse in America. Yes, I too would like to see a miracle occur and Haleigh suddenly appear unharmed at the edge of the woods, but I don’t have much hope. The next best thing would be see Ron taken out of circulation before he causes the disappearance of someone else. Misty beware!

my theory,Ron hit her, probably for wetting the bed, strange, as grandma she was not a bed wetter, stress in her life caused her to wet bed she was hit and died when Misty discovered she was dead, Ron had to think quick, thus the kidnapper story, he married Misty to shut her up..that’s all!PS>>>where’s the body???!!

RO|YDE COASTER: I painted a scenerio very similar to your the other day. An abductor would have to be very lucky. Gosh, it’s dark in here, I’ll just put a light on.

This is SO unlike other children than have been taken from their homes at night (through windows of frame houses, not mobile homes.

Sounds like a set-up or Misty wasn’t home.

Pickles – 🙂 good article. Wish we knew what progress LE is making.

I THINK MISSY WAS CHEATING ON RON WITH ANOTHER GUY WHILE HE IS AT WORK.AND THE GUY GOT USE TO THE SURROUNDINGS AND SCHEDULES OF THE FAMILY, AND TOOK HAILEIGH WHEN MISSY WENT TO SLEEP. AND MISSY IS SCARED TO LET IT ALL OUT CAUSE IT WOULD JEOPARDIZES EVERYTHING SHE HAS .

Check out this website.It explains alot about what is going on. The new bounty hunter has opened up a can of worms. http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

p.s i also believe misty is hiding something!!!

No one ever asked what Ron did before work that day. He thinks he is slick but not slick enough. He lawyered himself up but nothing for Misty, why?

And now Misty states she washed the sheets, made her bed and went to sleep. Then, where was Jr sleeping? She claims now he was sleeping with her but yet she states she made her bed AFTER she put the kids to sleep.

I don’t believe Crystal is making these allegations up all of a sudden. She was a teenaged mother, with 2 kids in an abusive relationship with Ron. She had to get away, he had connections in the sheriff’s office. And from what I read, she may have had issues herself. Nobody took her serious. She isn’t real bright and maybe she didn’t know what to do. I am a mother of three, and was in an abusive marriage. The court didn’t want to hear it. My ex molsted my daughter. I had her telling me as well as my confrontation with my ex on tape-where he admitted it, and they did NOTHING. So as far as childrens’ services, they are not always what they are intended for. Anyway, Crystal’s behavior was a little odd at first, but what would be NORMAL behavior when your child disappears? She could have been so heavily medicated.
And what mother now wouldn’t question the safety of her other child in the care of the negligent parent and step parent? Misty claims in her 911 call that HER daughter is missing. Haleigh is NOT her daughter and wasn’t even her step daughter at the time.
If they were all in a bedroom together, which appears to be a small room, how did Misty NOT hear someone come in? Either she wasn’t in the room or she was under the influence of something that knocked her out. It is NOT normal to have an entire family sleeping in the same room. Nor is it healthy. Maybe it unfortunetly took this horrific situation to give Crystal the courage and support to finally get the strength to be heard.

Misty is just 17. A child disappeared in her care. How should the biological mother feel? Technically, Misty was a babysitter. AN UNFIT ONE. And why is Ron Cummings at his age, allowed to be living with a minor?

Crystal is not bright, but I believe she is naive and innocent. There is NOTHING naive or innocent about Ron or the wife who has lied from the beginning. Check out her cell phone records from that night.

Yes, the abuse allegations do need to be addressed because there could be a motive.

The light issue, How did Jr. see a man in black if there was no light on? Was the light from the kitchen enough lite to see this man in black? Unless there is a street light or full moon, without some lite from some source how can one move around safely in the total dark? Try this the next time you are in a total dark room you think you know, try tomove around and see where you end up.

am..i dont usually judge others im not perfect what i do judge is 4 yrs later after youve left your kids to accuse the person youve chosen to leave them with(while you were out having more)…also i judge when the last person who was with haleigh cant get a story straight, or wont do everything sugested to help relive that night…wouldnt you do everything in your power to rember every detail??? and how do you forget where you put a child to bed at??? unless you didnt..well we were all sleeping together, well she was sleeping here and us here, well i made the bed after they were asleep…only one way happened that night…but witch??

I hate to say it, but at this point I have to say I fear Haleigh is dead. Why does Ron speak of her in the past tense? Why when married did they say, “This is what Haleigh would have wanted?” What about the tattoo as a tribute to his daughter? Did Casey Anthony not do the same thing before a body was discovered? I believe that Ron has a temper but I can not say for sure what happened to the child because I was not there. There are so many possibilities and we may never know the truth, but I think the community should reach out to help, instead of immediately judge these people. We know little of their pasts, their experiences, and their resources available to help them cope. I fear for Misty, and I hope that she is not involved in any way in the disappearance, although I think she may have tried to help ‘cover up’ the crime. What I think happened, honestly, is that Ron backhanded the little girl and possibly she hit her head on a table, either causing death immediately or later in the evening when Misty was watching her. Head injuries can either cause immediate death, or, if there is a slow bleed in the brain, it can take hours for the brain stem to be compressed enough to result in death. I imagine that Misty wanted to cover up the death so Ron would not get in trouble or lose Jr., and after disposing of the body, she washed the blanket she used to transport the body. I think she constructed the story of Haleigh missing to cover up what actually happened. I think that she may have shared the truth with Ron after reporting the ‘abduction’ to police; The truth being that later that night after Ron hit Haleigh and then went to work, Misty found Haleigh not breathing and since Misty didn’t want Ron in trouble or to lose Jr., she disposed of the body and constructed the disappearance story. In their uneducated minds, I can see someone advising Ron to marry Misty so she can not testify against him for hitting the little girl, and so he would not be required to testify about her disposing of the body. I trust Misty loves and cares for Haleigh, I am sure she thinks she loves Ron, but I feel she is too young to be able to fully understand the lifelong impact of her impulsive decisions. Again, I just hope this family receives help. I would love for Haleigh to be found alive, but I fear that will not happen.
By the way, although I feel both parents need help, I think people should stop attacking Crystal!!! She is finding the strength to finally get her power back!!! Victims of domestic violence are stripped of their self esteem by the abuser, and it takes time to heal, build self esteem, and take power back from the abuser. Some women become victims of domestic violence because they initially lacked self esteem; they felt worthless to some degree or thought they deserved the abuse. Many of these types of women were either abused as children/teens or witnessed abuse. Women (and men) in abusive situations tend to have a higher incidence of substance abuse; usually as a way to ‘escape’ their problems. Substance abuse also occurs with depression or mental health issues. The culture of the Putnam county seems to be extremely redneck, with the majority of the community lacking education. I believe it is the lack of education and lack of access to services that makes Crystal look like a bad mother; and I do not see that as entirely being her fault. I do believe in personal accountability, but I also understand the emotional tsunami that victims of abuse are attempting to survive. The children are the losers in this situation. I do not think that most in law enforcement, or even may doctors, fully understand the emotional tsunami victims of abuse are attempting to survive. In situations of abuse, the goal is survival, there is no time to think about anything else. It is difficult to cope on a daily basis, let alone think rationally. Each day is about surviving that day. People need to stop asking victims why they didn’t leave earlier, why they didn’t fight for their kids, why they use drugs, and instead focus on the fact that something traumatic happened to make a woman react this way!!! It is a mother’s instinct to fight for her children, but in cases of extreme abuse the mother (or father, to be fair) can be stripped of her power to the degree that it is all she can do to ensure her own survival. I do not think there is an understanding of the cognitive impairment resulting from abuse because of emotional overload. Some of the cognitive impairment is the result of substance abuse, because victims use substances to ‘escape’ feeling their pain or dealing with their problems. This should not be blamed on the victim, but be recognized as a coping mechanism. Abused victims are isolated and can not use a social network for support, so it is easier to use a substance to deal with the emotional overload. In many areas victims lack resources to services to help them. Even in areas where services exist, those services are usually overloaded and in high demand. This country has come a long way to recognize that domestic abuse happens and that it is not good. I do not think the country has done a good job providing resources for individuals identified as abused, nor do I think the country comprehends the emotional fragility of an abuse victim. The systems meant to protect victims often revictimize. Until there is proper education about the complexities surrounding domestic violence, there can not be change!!! I just hope that this family being under the spotlight will allow both sides of the family access the appropriate services, all in the hopes of ensuring a better future for the children. Feel free to email me at scparentadvocate@yahoo.com if you have comments. 🙂

PICKS!! I had forgotten Shasta and Dylan Groene were in Oregon, where I now live.

Where was that in OR?

Wasn’t he that CREEP that stalked that family using night goggles from the woods? He killed the Mom and her boyfriend so he could take both children?

Dylan fought back so he killed him? Shasta and the CREEP were noticed by a very alert waitress in the middle of the night?

SICKENING … totally SICKENING. I hope he is getting some of what he deserves in jail before his DP. Or, is HE protected from GP? That’s where IT should be! Let his own society – handle it. Lowest in their pecking order … ?

Mike Conway said,in March 21st, 2009 at 12:04 pm The light issue, How did Jr. see a man in black if there was no light on? Was the light from the kitchen enough lite to see this man in black? Unless there is a street light or full moon, without some lite from some source how can one move around safely in the total dark? Try this the next time you are in a total dark room you think you know, try tomove around and see where you end up.

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Mike,

A full moon was shining that night. Your question, is how did junior see a man dressed in black if no lights were on in the house? is such a great question.

A Neighbor heard screams in or around the trailor,at 2:25 am, so did a crime happen at that time?

I am very confident this mystery will be solved.

There are so many things to consider when a child becomes a missing child. We have so many theories and answers. It happens more and more every day. For one thing, I don’t believe the perps get the right penalties for the crimes they commit on innocent children. How can a jury sit there and listen to testimony about these innocent children and then hand down a sentence of 15 years? Put them in prison for the rest of their life or execute them. Don’t let them out to do it again. And sad to say, drugs play a huge role in missing children’s lives.
Consider this, Ron goes to work and one of his friends , knowing his schedule, drops by and hates that he missed him, but offers to smoke a joint or do some drugs with Missy, she passes out for a couple hours and when she wakes up and stumbles to the bathroom, well guess what, Little Haleigh is gone. What can she tell Ron? Something just isn’t right about the babysitter!!!!There is something Missy isn’t telling. And as far as the tot Mom in Florida…She makes me sick to my stomach!

Here is the real deal. Ron and Misty were home free untill I gave the police info about her whereabouts that evening. The child was missing before Daddy left for work. They ploted the whole thing and until one starts talking Ron will never go down for the murder.