Satsuma Florida- Haleigh Cummings went missing from her home thirty nine days ago. She was under the care of Misty Croslin. Misty has yet to give a solid account as to what happened leading up to the disappearance of Haleigh. Misty has been questioned for numbers of hours regarding a simple account of events from 7 pm on February 9th to 3 am on February 10th. A simple correct time line of events is all investigators seem to want from her. Misty is as tight lipped as ever. It is reported that investigators have asked her to even do a reenactment of what happened the night of February 9th before she put Haleigh and Jr. to bed. She refused. I have reported numerous times as to what Misty claims to of happened the night before the disappearance of Haleigh.
Misty says she put Haleigh and Jr. to bed at 8 pm. Misty then says she stayed up to do some laundry then she herself turned in at 10 pm. Doors locked and lights off. She then says that she woke up to use the toilet but never made it because she noticed a light on in the kitchen. On further investigation of the kitchen light she realized the back door was open and the screen propped with bricks. Misty says she ran to the bedroom to call Ron Cummings at work then realizing Haleigh was gone. Jr still in bed sleeping. Misty says she called Ron at work and he rushed home. Ron called the police after getting to the house.
Misty has had a very unstable recollection of what exactly happened the night before the disappearance. She has changed her account of the events several times. I honestly don’t know what the latest one is. Her sister in law Chelsea Croslin is now involved in the investigation along with Misty’s blue van. It seems that investigators took a blue van into custody to be processed as evidence. The van has been released investigators said that there is nothing related to Haleigh in the vehicle. According to Chelsea, Misty called her at 4 am the morning Haleigh disappeared. They went outside to get into the van to drive over to Ron and Misty’s to help look for Haleigh and even before getting into the van they realized it was not parked in the spot she had last parked it in. Then during the day of February 10th Misty noticed further signs of tampering on the vehicle. She says that there is a long scratch going down the drivers side from the door to the back tire. Misty called Chelsea later that night asking her if she was the one who put the scratch in her van and Chelsea then began crying telling her no she wasn’t the one who put the scratch in the van.
Chelsea has also said that she is not accusing anyone and that she is just piecing things together and that they feel they might know who it is. Its unclear as to what Chelsea means by she feels she might know who it is, if she is referring to who tampered with the van or who has Haleigh.
Haleigh is a five year old girl, she has blonde hair and brown eyes. Haleigh is 3 ft. tall and weighs 39 pounds. She has a birthmark on her left cheek. She was last seen February 9th at 10 pm. Anyone with information about Haleigh her where abouts or her abductor are asked to call Crime Stoppers at 1-888-277-TIPS (8477) or Putnam County Sheriffs Office at (386)-329-0800. The reward for Haleigh is said to be at $37,000 now. There will be a headquarters up and running soon to take tips and donations to aid in the search.
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackYou do not have your facts correct. It is MIsty’s sister-in-law, Lindsay, who is married to Misty’s brother, whose blue van has the scratch. It is the sister-in-law that says her van was parked differently than the way she left it. And it was the sister-in-law that had the house guest, who is their cousin, Joe.
Misty’s story is not inconsistent, but has remained the same. She has simply refused to make up things she does not know or cannot remember about that night.
If MIsty did anything to hurt Haleigh, Ronald, Jr, would say so. Also, if anything odd happened, he would say so. He has said a man came and took Haleigh, and for unknown reasons, people do not want to believe that.
Yes, the article is wrong on the point about the van belonging to s-i-l Lindsay & houseguest Cuzzin Joe . . . but GMAFB on the whole “misty is consistent” BS notright!
Now I’m not sure if Misty is mentally retarded, abusing meth and coming off it with alcohol & Oxy’s all the while being a sex toy for a man who should be PROSECUTED for dallying with her OR some combination of ALL OF THE ABOVE – but CAN SAY this gal has been ANYTHING but consistent.
Ronald Sr. should also be prosecuted for leaving his kids with this hot mess.
This case is going nowhere. There is something strange about the Putnam County investigators. It’s as though they are slowly backing off. I still wonder if someone in Ronald Cummings family has connections to this department. I’ve never seen a police department show so little interest in trying to solve a missing child case.
By not having any press releases, there really is very little that the public can help. Why are they refusing to do any? Something is fishy here.
The day Haleigh went missing, everyone was looking for her…she (Misty) called me later that night and said ‘Chelsea, please tell me you’re the one who put the scratch in my van.’ I started crying and told her there’s no way I put the scratch in her van,” said Chelsea.
Misty) called me later that night and said ‘Chelsea, please tell me you’re the one who put the scratch in my van.’ I started crying and told her there’s no way I put the scratch in her van,” said Chelsea.
isty) called me later that night and said ‘Chelsea, please tell me you’re the one who put the scratch in my van.’ I started crying and told her there’s no way I put the scratch in her van,” said Chelsea.
Misty) called me later that night and said ‘Chelsea, please tell me you’re the one who put the scratch in my van.’ I started crying and told her there’s no way I put the scratch in her van,” said Chelsea.
These details that are causing confusion were taken from another news report. I ran across the report yesterday, read the article on the van three times, my head was still spinning from the way it read. I wrote an email to the news agency and ask them why this article was so confusing and the twist of names. Of course no response.. But, facts remain the van is an issue. My first though.. How would someone gain access to the keys, and drive the van at night without anyone noticing? Why wouldn’t this family member who may have driven the van, step up and say.. “Yes, I took the van out, and this is where I went”. I mean the authorities took the van – and have gone through it with everything they have to test it, and would have his fingerprints, why not admit and be honest, they already know. If not this person, then how did they start the van? Did they have their own Key? Did they sneak into the house in the middle of the night and steal the keys, and then sneak back in and replace them? How did they get into the house? Was the vehicle hotwired, well it couldn’t have been because the family drove it that night using a key. Nothing in this case is simple, it twist and turns in too many directions.
Well, who within the family unit has keys? and Who does the Van belong to? Too many unanswered questions again. The scratch.. another car? a key scratching? Tree limbs or heavy brush?
Now, there is another flaw in the statements,
Missy claims the Grandmother delivering clean clothes, was at the house about 5:00pm – Left by 5:30. Great Grandma, during the showing of the house, stated her daughter the Grandmother, had been at the residence delivering clean clothes aroung 8:00pm – Leaving around 8:30. These inconsistance statements cause confusion..
The Door that was standing open, well the news reporter displayed how that back door does not stay open, it automatically swings closed..
That means the Trailor is not level in that area. Therefore it will never remain open by itself, until the trailor is releveled. That’s a given. So, this open door statement is not a reality, unless the door was being propped open, and that was never stated.
Then we have the absolute guarenteed, that door is never used. Moments later, same interview, the statement: Well, we use it to take out the trash.. And, to vacumn out the car..
Another interview, Ronald stated, he was surprised to see Missy awake that night when he arrived home, because she and the children are normally asleep. Moments later, he stated that he was working a double that night, that was the reason he came home so late. Well, this is confusing to me, what shift does he normally work? Does he frequently work at nights? Why if Missy called him at work and he came racing home, would he be surprised to see her awake?
As far as the investigators backing off.. No No, that is a misconception. They are going full force.. Reasons for the lack of press releases, they are keeping their investigation and any discoveries quiet. Apparently, learned lessons from prior cases. Don’t misjudge the law enforcement, they are working just as hard and deligent. When, the case is resolved.. I believe all of us are going to set back in a state of “Oh My God”.
IM sorry NOT RIGHT is RIGHT…The article i read quoted Misty as saying all of that…but I just checked it out and this article is quoting Chelsea as saying that…I AM SO SORRY…YOU are absolutely right NOT RIGHT….I feel like a HEEL! I am working to correct this! Thank YOU for pointing that out to me…The article I read reporting on it was plainly quoting Misty as the one who said all of that..And it wasnt her.
SATSUMA, Fla. — Sitting in the driveway of Misty Cummings former home is a van driven by her sister-in-law. The light blue vehicle doesn’t look like anything out of the ordinary, but it was something investigators thought important enough to impound and analyze at their crime lab for weeks.
The woman who drives that van is Misty Cummings sister-in-law, Chelsea Croslin. Misty was the last person to see Haleigh the night she was taken. Chelsea said the family got the van back just before the weekend.
“They put a lot of tape on it, and there was a lot of white powder on the windows, I guess that’s just to check things,” said Chelsea.
“We all started thinking about what could have happened that night…I realized the van was in a different spot.”
Chelsea Croslin said the night Haleigh disappeared, a family member was staying with them. She says around 4 a.m., when Misty called them to tell them Haleigh was missing, they went outside to the van to drive to Haleigh’s home. Chelsea said she immediately noticed the van was not in the same spot she left it.
“I know I don’t park like that, and I was the last to drive the van.”
After a few hours, another sign the van was tampered with appeared.
“The day Haleigh went missing, everyone was looking for her…she (Misty) called me later that night and said ‘Chelsea, please tell me you’re the one who put the scratch in my van.’ I started crying and told her there’s no way I put the scratch in her van,” said Chelsea.
A scratch leading from just behind the driver’s side door handle to the back tire is very visible. Chelsea said that scratch was not there the last time she drove it.
“The scratch—it runs all the way down the van. That’s something someone would know if you’re riding against something and steadily scratching it.”
All police would say about the van being impounded is that it was taken to the FDLE’s crime lab in Jacksonville, analyzed, then released. They would not comment on any specifics of what was searched or if anything was found in the van.
Chelsea Croslin believes the only explanation is that at some point during the night Haleigh was taken, the family member staying with her took the van. Police said they have tracked that man down and questioned him. They also said he has not been ruled out as a suspect.
“I’m not accusing anybody…it’s just me being a mom and believing what I believe and piecing things together. I almost feel like I might know who it is,” said Chelsea.
My question is, who does the Van belong to? Is it Misty’s and she lets Chelsea drive it?
Your right, there were a few conflicting articles that misnamed Chelsea and Misty. Very frustrating.
There its fixed with all the proper information! ♥
Okay all these crazy stories lately with the Anthony’s and now the Cumming’s sheesh makes me thinking all children born or under the age of the 18 needs a tracking chip installed in them. Bang they go missing gps picks them up in seconds. Sad to say but it might be what the world will come to!!!!
great post stone!!!! thanks for them,keeps me on track with things….
mandy..that was an idea here by some regulars…i think its a good idea..like we all get our pets chipped….it is sad but if it can save just one child then its worth it…
just a couple of generic questions: what is the legal age to smoke in Florida? what is the legal marrying age in Florida? What mother in their RIGHT MIND would allow their seventeen year old daughter live with a 24 year old man? does Misty attend school? This whole story wreaks of the family unit that has broken way down.. where is Misty’s mother? Why doesn’t Haleigh’s biological mom have her and Ronald Jr.? Where is Haleigh’s biological mom’s parents? And why does everything keep happening in Florida? Put your cigarettes down, get out of the sun, go to school, and get a job! AND, use birth control. These poor babies have no choice or say in this very disturbing life that they are being raise in…..
Good article Stone ♥ I know it must be a challenge to get every thing down in black and white, when things seem to be floating all around in the air and foggy.
So we have another player to keep track of, Chelsea.
This is a cut from the article above:
“work then realizing Haleigh was gone. Jr still in bed sleeping. Misty says she called Ron at work and he rushed home …”
So Jr. sees man in black take Haleigh and when Misty goes back to the bedroom to call Ron, Jr. is sleeping (again?). Tough little guy, ain’t he – witness a kidnapping and go back to sleep.
Now that scenerio ‘man in black’ or ‘black man’ comes from Crystal, as reported to her by Jr.
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I think every child should have a child advocate come to visit them every 8 months until they are in grade 11. To check if the home is safe and the parents are treating their children properly. Parents could have access to social resources, education, housing and job referrals. It would stop crime in the long run. These children are being raised by people who need help in being a parent themselves. A child advocate resource worker who helps parents and the child is what is needed. And the Need is in great demand! I agree especially in Florida.
ok why would this chelsa ‘start crying” about not putting a scratch in the van? she couldnt just say no i didnt, she had to cry??? why???
this is beginning to sound like caylee’s case…LIARS!!!!
We all want justice for Haleigh. Thank you for keeping interest alive in this under-reported case.
“a man in black” sounds quite a bit like the all too common “bushy haired stranger” doesn’t it?and maybe if he really did see a man in black take his sister,he went back to sleep because it was someone he vaguely recognized??who even knows if that little boy really even said that.now these abuse allegations,come on, little girl first,abuse (if any) after she’s found!does anyone know if there was any drinking or drugs tested for that night?misty always seems way out of it.
http://www.fox30online.com/mostpopular/story/New-Details-About-Evidence-In-The-Haleigh/1k5Lp9GD2E2M74ZPyUJb7g.cspx….I agree with everyone this article is very confusion i read it several times and still cant sense of it but fox 30 news did a better job click on link
“Under reported case”? What the heck???
This is probably the second most reported child missing case in years.
I still can’t figure out how some of these cases grab the media attention and barrage the public with the minutest fact or report.
While the attention is centered on Haleigh and Caylee, there are thousands of other children reported missing, but we don’t hear about them or they are a blip on the news, then nothing more. But, those families are just as stricken as these 2 families. Those families try to get more attention to these children, but don’t seem to succeed. WHY?
Some day I hope each heartbreaking case regarding a child’s abduction or murder is made known to the public and we all give as much attention to it as we have to these two little girls.
BUT.. I doubt there are many cases like the Anthony and Cummings cases, since they both offer such weird characters and outrageous liars.
God Bless all the children in harm’s way. They came into the world as innocents and should be protected by their parents and all adults.
I don’t know why some get the attention and some don’t. But I do know that it happens far more often that most people think it does. And if theywere to give all the cases the same media attention that’s all we would hear about. So, who gets picked and who doesn’t? I suppose whichever will get the most viewers, or readers. And that is the sad truth.
Did you know Misty’s boyfriend White Boy Joe is black and had sex one week prior to Haleigh’s missing.
The new bounty hunter asked Ronald why he married Misty. Ronald replied you know that saying Keep your friends close and your enemies _____.
You need to read what the new bounty hunter uncovered. Here is the site.
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php
Someone needs to find this cousin with the issues and make sure that he did not take Haleigh. MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR….The biological mother does not have her children because she has too many personal problems to be able to care for her kids. Danny needs to come clean with the police about the dealings that he has had. He has a problem with drugs and has been mixing with the wrong people. Make sure that some of them are not getting payback.
Danny and Misty are now married so that Danny doesn’t get in trouble for sleeping with a minor. Yes she is 17, but still a minor. Her mother is a loser. LOSER.
The shame of all this is that Haleigh has to suffer for the way that all these people are conducting their lives. She should have had better. Danny Jr. should have better.
The police should still look at this seriously and find that little girl. Just because the ‘adults’ are not living properly, don’t give up on Haleigh. Danny and Misty – are you done living the way you have been? Grow up and clean up.
Do you see what the drugs have done? Was it worth it?
To the first “not right”. Maybe nobody believes the man in black story as Ron Cummings himself says that Crystal Sheffield made that up. Why are we to believe it if he doesn’t believe it? And why did the child wait 2 weeks to tell the story? I say that it is only the overactive mind of a 4 year old responding to everything that has went on in his life.
I am amazed at how much stock you are putting into the statement of a “sleeping” 4 year old who surely saw nothing.
Stone, thanks for keeping on these cases of missing children. You certainly are there for them!
I have heard someplace … that Ron (Haleigh’s father) has relatives or some connection with the Police Dept. down there. Could that be why previous charges against him were always “dropped”??
I do believe he is in AGONY about his little girl being missing. I don’t think that is an act.
JUSTSOMEONE …I despise drugs. They have cause so much grief in lives … truly incredible pain, and it’s on-going.
Four policemen were killed this afternoon in California. Probably drugs … killing FOUR? Insane.
Everybody going to listen to the Show tomorrow? I will – when it’s in the can.
Miss everyone … very busy with the house … selling soon I think.
This case is another heartbreaker like Caylee. Thoes woman, they look so neglected. They look like they have never been to a hair stylist in thier lives. My mother told me almost 50 years ago to always take care of myself so I would not begin to resent my children. Mom was right. When you feel good and look good you know it and you concentrate more on your children, thier welfare, well being, education and life style. When you are confident, you put your kids FIRST. I have never seen one woman dressed in anything but jeans and a tee shirt and absolutely no make up. My father said you can tell everything about a Man by looking at his wife and daughters. When people don’t take care of themselves and thier children that is just a huge invitation for child molesters to “move in” on them and or kidnap them. It’s like a flashing sign. I always made sure my kids were well dressed, professional hair cut and they even had little watches and an insignant rings by the time they were three or four. I wanted strangers to know that they were well cared for, respected and loved and that I was an over protective mother. If kids looked neglected thoes adult abusers can spot them immediately. Because they were usually neglected kids themselves. Thoes cuts and bruises on Hayleigh’s face are so upsetting to me. She also has bandages on her hands in another picture. It looks like she had burns on her little hands. My son was as rough a kid as you would ever see. He was always sliding into bases playing football etc. and I never saw him or my other kids or grandkids cut and bandaged up hands like Haleigh. I do hope the mom’s attorney gets Jr. out of that area and home with her and his maternal grandmother as quickly as possible. They may not be perfect who is, but anything is better than waiting for him to be grabbed away too. Now that the mom has a fantastic lawyer and she is a fantastic lawyer (graduated with top honors from UF)then the mom now knows not to ever go to court without an attorney or you can and will loose your kids. The father had an attorney and all of his family backing him and in his home towne. She was an outsider with no lawyer. She never had a chance. He actually kidnapped the kids. He had 6 or 7 drug arrests and no convictions. He must have had an unbelieveable attorney. I heard someone say that on Nancy Grace. The mom kept sending DCS to the house everytime she was told that the kids were injured but they did nothing. I guess we can call him “teflon ron” because he seems to be untouchable….
By the way, who is Danny?
Meema – I can’t even respond to such an idiotic and ignorant post regarding how the appearance of a child effects who gets kidnapped and who doesn’t. I don’t think a child molester is looking to take the child with the least expensive hair cut and who is wearing a watch or not. Please use spellcheck before posting…..there is no e at the end of town and you don’t loose your kids you lose them. I guess you must have spent too much time at the professional hairdresser and not enough time in English class.
Meema-
What ERA are you living in?
hey everyone! Trying to play catch up on here on both blogs. Hey stone!
I was reading some comments and, as far as meemas comments, i have to agree with some of it, like taking care of your children, not neglecting them, making sure they are well groomed and all…i see the point she was making…not to say predators would focus on less fortunate, but taking care of ones children is what is wrong today, too many parents are all about them, them them.. so i see some points she was saying… building self confidence in children is so so important…taking care of mom too is equally important. I think sometimes moms and dads forget that cause they get so caught up in being tired from working, raising kids, maybe not enough money at times, and they forget and throw on jeans and t shirts, lol, but I don’t think theres anything wrong in taking good care and nurturing our children in todays society…as far as the custody battle, I don’t know what I think, I do tend to disagree about haliegh being abused…
Meema I disagree totally with your comments. I am a country girl, I wear hat, jeans and worn out rangler boots , rarely any makeup although am fussy about my hair and my values are much higher standard than these folks. I do not drink or do drugs or associate with those who do drugs, everyone old enough to drink has a beer on occassion or even a glass of wine. Just because one does not walk around looking like Jackie O all the time does not make them bad people sheesh. And your father’s theory is wrong. Look at Natalie Halloway and Kelsey Smith 2 very lovely girls come from good stable homes and they came up missing by some freaks. So do not judge the cover of the book till you read the inside.!!!!!!!! Yes I agree there is something wrong with whole story. And look at the Anthony’s their house was nice and Casey seemed to take pride in her appearance. Again do not judge people by their appearances or their status in society. I do believe yes we should take good care of our children but in today’s society ANY CHILD is a target of a predator not just one from a family who’s mother’s wear jeans and tshirts. Hops off my soap box and shoves it under the couch!
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Someone knows something. IMO I believe Misty is not being truthful. I’ve narrowed it down to 3 scenario’s:1) Misty was not home when she said she was and someone who had been watching her routine after dad went to work knew this or perhaps was someone who actually knows them personally.It could be the relative that had been staying w/ the SILaw. This person would have personal info and access to the van in the early morning hours. I’m under the impression that the relative staying with the SILaw was not JO but another person and it is my understanding this person is a RSO.
2)Misty was at home and had company after she had put the children to bed.I know that it has been said that JR talked of a man dressed in black or perhaps a black man with squeaky shoes who took her and also that the couch was bouncing? Ok couch bouncing? I am concerned that Haleigh may have came out and seen Misty with the unknown visitor.(This would be where the story of washing all the blankets would come in way to much info given on these blankets IMO)It is rumored she was having relations with a possible anglo/african amer. male.With dad being the way he is they panicked or maybe this visitor panicked and took Haliegh thus the tip of someone hearing yelling around 2:00 am.Misty more then likley has keys and access to the van.
3)Could be in retaliation to something Ron has done in the past. I don’t really see this though.
I don’t feel that Dad has anything to do with this, but I think he knows Misty is not being fully truhful. I do feel Misty holds the key and I wish she would just come clean. I think she is afraid of Dad or maybe the unknow visitor? This is my opinion only.
Colorado your #2 scenario has always been in my mind however, Haleigh caught Misty and threatened to tell her Daddy, then she put Haleigh back to bed and conjured up a way with the person she was with be it another guy (most likely she’s 17)to do something with Haleigh cause she was so afraid of Ron. She left the backdoor unlocked purposely and then pretended to be asleep when this person came back. Knowing what time Ron gets home is about the time she supposedly wakes up to go the bathroom and finds the back door open and then Haleigh gone. May initial question if you check the house for the child who could have gotten up and went to sleep in her room or on the couch and she was not there why did she not call 911? I would have been in freaking hysterics and the whole neighboorhood would have heard me screaming her name while I was on the phone with 911. I personally would not even called Ron first 911 would have been my first call. I think this “Cobra” bounty hunter has it right arrest Misty for obstruction and child endangerment (which how do you prove unless she was not in the home) and let her sit in jail alone a with high enough bond that can not be posted and bet within 2 days the girl is confessing or she is quickly remembering exactly what happened that night. I have always thought that Misty holds the keys to the truth!
One word to MEEMA …… HUH?
The State of Florida, is it obstruction of officer to lie to a Officer of Law? Get her for child endangerment. Lock her up, take the cigarettes away and drugs. She will be singing like a bird. I agree she was with the Black man Jr. saw with the squeaky shoes. Shes a little hot mama. Why does the Cummings Family sing her praises? Does she know something on Ron? Let her tell it Ron so Haleigh can be found. nothing is worth covering up, when your precious child is missing. The truth will stand up in Hell. If the Bounty Hunters video is correct, she has a strong hold on Ron. Now hes doing as she says. Not if my child was missing, my girls are 30 & 33 yrs old, if they went missing she was the last person to be seen with them. I would be on her like white on rice. I love Nancy Grace Show. I cant understand her being on Ronalds side. I dont think he did anything, but his teenage bride knows what happened. I pray for Haleigh all thru day. I want her to be safe and have a chance to have a good life.
I just noticed that most of you that posted to this article are not “regulars”. I would think that you may want to read some of the other articles and post. It will then become apparent that these bloggers are not those who post to hurt others feelings or to be just plain nasty. I can’t say I “post” regularly but I do read every day and have to say that from what I’ve read of most of the above post, I won’t be upset if you never post again. It is perfectly natural to disagree with others from time to time, but IMO you can say you disagree without name calling.
Stone ~ as always I enjoyed your article. I feel for you ~ can’t be easy covering an event where the truth and main characters are not acquainted….
Thank YOU Jen..I dont know who is calling names? Whois name calling?
I have read that pedophiles like good looking children. I am sure tho, if the opportunity arises, they will snatch any child they can.
Also, they realize that some children are more vulnerable than others. I have read too, that children from broken homes, etc. are easier prey. Maybe more vulnerable? They are pretty studied and clever and DETERMINED! Some pediphiles get friendly with the mother who thinks it’s GREAT to have a male role in their lives, when all they are dong is “grooming” them … all of them. I know of this, was in my own family.
Their sites on the net are so scary to me. They share information, how to do it, how to do it BETTER, where they children are, how to find them, etc. It wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t “share” with each other about proping open screen/storm doors, because your hands are busy, when carrying out a child. Like … “Have a brick or something with you for the secondary doors.” Disgusting creatures they are. Can’t be with women, their losers, need kidnapped “CHILDREN”!
If it was one person, they couldn’t have gotten Jr. too. And, Jr. was in the bed with Misty, she said. More risky than poor little Haligh who on her own little bed on the floor.
Tried to address so many things. Just checking in. I will hear the Radio Show when in the “can”. Only way I can get it.
****typo meant “when all they are DOING”…
COLORADO good post!
Maybe it could have been any one of the scenarios you pose … all make good sense.
I think I understand what Meema was trying to say, about easier prey. Single parent families/kids, neglected in some way … many ways, working parent, etc.
How’s your weather there CO?
heart,
You need to stop listening to the news media and the idiots on Capital Hill (Senators and Congressmen/women).
1) This investigation is going nowhere, 2) The local police have interviewed all sex offenders in the area and have turned up nothing, 3) just because there are sex offenders living near by does not mean that any one of the had anything to do with the girls disappearance!
I don’t buy the crap that you just spouted about sex offenders. You know nothing about them. Leave the analyzing to the mental heath professionals.
To everyone else….stop listing to the politician’s. They lied about the statistics concerning sex offenders when they introduced legislation to the public. In fact, they never even checked how low the recidivism rate really was before they passed what is now the Adam Walsh Act (AWA).
The media and the politicians have started a wide spread panic, and a trained sex offender therapist will tell you the same. The politicians want to keep up this lie in order to garner votes.
ilovetheshowmadmen said,in March 21st, 2009 at 3:15 pm just a couple of generic questions: what is the legal age to smoke in Florida? what is the legal marrying age in Florida? What mother in their RIGHT MIND would allow their seventeen year old daughter live with a 24 year old man? does Misty attend school? This whole story wreaks of the family unit that has broken way down.. where is Misty’s mother? Why doesn’t Haleigh’s biological mom have her and Ronald Jr.? Where is Haleigh’s biological mom’s parents? And why does everything keep happening in Florida? Put your cigarettes down, get out of the sun, go to school, and get a job! AND, use birth control. These poor babies have no choice or say in this very disturbing life that they are being raise in…..
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Misty hasn’t attended school in sometime. The last year she completed may have been the seventh or eighth grade, that would mean, if true,she has never attended high school. She
seems to have an attitude, like an eighth grader, so maybe this is her maturity level. She didn’t know what the word ‘numerical” mean’t. She doesn’t seem to be taking this situation very serious, a lot of people are suffering because immaturity.
jen~ I do not see where anyone posting called anyone names. The last time I checked these forums are for freedom of speech. We can all agree to disagree. But I have not seen no name calling. Many did not agree with meema’s post and I for one did not agree with some of her comments in her post. And honestly just because some of us may be new posters does not mean we do not read these forums here and writings here daily. I have been following this case since day one I heard about it and the same with the Anthony Case. They are all sad stories. 2 innocent children gone who should not have been and that alone is sad. The writer of this article has done an amazing job.
But please do not tell posters you could care less if they posted again that alone is not very nice. Everyone has freedom of speech!!!!
Thanks Mandy. I am a new poster and I feel intimidated by her remark. We all have one concern and thats finding Haleigh and bringing her back to a safe enviroment. I do hope Crystal gets custody back. Everyone is questioning Crystals intentions. Why now? My God she just lost a child in Ron’s custody. That seems like a good reason to me. If she waits until Haleigh is found, the kids will be back in that household. It takes time to resolve a custody suit. Go for it Crystal and hold your head up high. Ron has been running a disorderly home. Teenage girls taking care of the kids. Teenagers are ok for a couple of hours babysitting. not trying to play the role of the other mother full time. If they have never had children at 17 yrs old. The Motherly instinct is not there. God bless you one and all.
Mandy 🙂 Hey I didn’t see any name calling either? So ya! But I am thankful for her compliment about my articles…But the name calling…didn’t catch it! ?
B JO…Welcome to BNN! Im sorry that you felt intimidated! ♥ No one wants to feel intimidated! I know who the heck am I to even get involved but I care and I don’t like that you felt that way! 🙂 You know your post is the first time I have ever felt….well its the first time I have fully understood Crystal wanting to get custody..”My God she just lost a child in Ron’s custody”….Right then you said “Ron has been running a disordly home. Teenage girls taking care of the kids”…..Makes perfect sense now regarding her lawyering up to gain custody of Jr…..Hmmm THANK YOU! “If they never had children at 17 yrs old. The motherly instinct is not there” RIGHT ON!! ♥ Makes total and perfect sense. GOD BLESS YOU TOO! YOUR AWESOME ♥
WOW!!! So then B JO maybe the kids weren’t sleeping when Haleigh was taken? And both the kids seen the “black man” that Misty was with? Anways welcome to BNN!! I hope you decide to stay with us!
B JO you should never feel intimidated to post!!! An Pickles your articles are always great! Like I said read Daily but rarely post. And what a comment B JO awesome! I have seen so many try to lay blame to Crystal but you are correct she “lost a Child on Ron’s watch” whether there was a babysitter present or not. And true at 17 with or without having had children I do not believe the maturity or motherly instinct is there period! Sheesh when I was seventeen all I wanted to know when the next rodeo was. (lol)
Every time I see this 17 year old walking around with a cigarette in her mouth, her poor grammar, I just cringe and want to say, Where was your mother.. who raised you? Where I come from, NO 17 year old can date let alone live with a man that is 8 years her senior. In addition, you can’t even smoke until you are 18….. legally. They actually give smoking tickets here if you are not of age. My heart breaks for this precious baby girl who apparently was not treated well and who was left in the hands of an uneducated child herself. Women, if you don’t want children or want to take care of them, USE birth control or close your legs. This whole story is heart breaking… I only hope that little boy is rescued soon from this den of horror….
Hi Jen – My name may be new here to posting but I have been reading here back when the Caylee case broke.just about everytime there is a new post.I just usally sit back on the side lines..:)And Heart thank you for that, the weather here in Colorado..is rain mixed w/snow today about 32 deg. outside this morning..Mandy I liked your idea in regards to scenario 2) that would make sense..I just hope we can find little Haleigh and bring her home along with all the other precious children thatare missing at this time.
Have a great day all..
I found a link to the actually copy of the divorce papers. Read all of the allegations.
http://www.cbs47.com/media/news/1/3/e/13e1a8a0-e082-477f-9698-11a796f76a10/petineer.pdf
I do believe you will find that many of the allegations, were presented to the court 3 years ago.. I set here wondering.. Did the judge not read the allegations? If one percent of what was claimed was true.. Why in this world would any judge give those children to Ronald Cummings, I am shocked. I do believe the State Judical System should actually take time to look at this Judge and his track record. Is anyone aware that Ronald’s Mother was employed by The Alachua County Sheriff’s Office in 2005. He states that in his divorce proceedings.
I find it so terrible ironic that the Van was conveniently driven that night. Who had access to the keys.. Why if its innocent, wouldn’t the person who took the van, stand up and say.. Hey, sorry guys, I took the van out for a spin. Van’s don’t start without a key in the ignition, unless its hotwired.. And it wasn’t hotwired, because the it now apprently starts with a key. But, no one is standing up..
Did Haleigh go to school that day? What was the absolute last time anyone in this world – outside of the time elements given by Misty and Ron, that Haleigh was seen? Who has this answer?
There are allegations in those divorce papers, that Ronald sr. is violent with he’s parents and or siblings.. No wonder they appear to walk on eggshell’s around him. For those of you who set back and really think that this is a simple, “somebody broke into my house, and took Haleigh”, No, there are more twist and turns in this situation than anyone can keep track of. Question: Is it possible that van was used to transport Little Haleigh away from the residence that night? If this were the case, then Ron, Misty, and who ever drove the van over to the house.. Know the truth.. And they are not going in that direction with their stories. I have also ran across the photos, of Ron’s other little girl and her Mommy. We don’t have that story yet. But she is a pretty little tiny brown haired baby girl, looks like she is about 2 years old. She is with her Momma, and I hope and pray she stays with her Momma. I do believe, little Ronald should be turned over to his Mother, Now.
Another thing when you start with the Crystal trashing. Does anyone realize that Crystal was 14 years old, when she started living with a 19 year old man.. That probably makes her about 15-16 when this divorce occurred. Now, who wants to stand up and tell me, that a 15-16 year old girl, knows about how to fight in Court for their children. People are concerned with Misty’s being 17.. Well she had a few years on Crystal when she was messed up with Ronald. Another point, he has a thing for child brides, doesn’t he? He never dates or marries anyone that is of legal age? No one finds this odd… Hello… think about it..
I have said prior, It’s the tid bits, that eventually start flowing together.
I was reading back a few of the post, and I actually don’t believe that people really think about what is going on here.
Let’s look at reality here.. Going on a what if, Haleigh was taken by a Sex Offender.
1. First he would have to be aware of Haleigh, and where she slept, and where her clothing was kept.
2. He would have to know the total lay out of the inside of the house.
3. He would have to completely know the schedule of the adults in the house.
4. He would have to know where Haleigh’s clothing was.
5. He would have to gain entry into the house through a locked door, that could not be entered by prior residences, because Ron sr. stated he had changed the dead bolt on the door.
6. this child would have to be removed from her bed, without her blanket.
7. No one else in the house was disturbed, although.. The kitchen light was on, (which had not been on when Misty went to bed) and Ronald sr. stated the light is so bright from the kitchen, it lights up the house and you could see that the light was on, if the bedroom door was open. So, we now have light on, that did not awaken anyone.
8. Haleigh, was not frightened so would he be familar to her, she did not cry out, she did not struggle, had she with the distance between her bed and where Misty was sleeping is four feet, the child likely would have been kicking violently and that would awaken someone she didn’t know, picking her up.
a. If she was still asleep when she left the bedroom..
b. Why didn’t that bright kitchen light wake her up?
c. Hey, this light business. Funny, I investigated many home invasions, never found one, that they turned lights on in the house. None.
d. That would tell the neighbors, hey we are up really early, something might be wrong. Why would want to alert the neighbors?
e. Why would he want to take a chance and alert Misty and wake her up?
9. No one hears or knows of prowler that night, no dogs barking. this person is creaping around in the dark, and opens a locked – deadbolt in the dark?
10.The amazing solid back door, that does not stay open, it auto swings closed.. Watch the interview..
11. The issue of Ronald sr. and another man fighting over a gun.. and the gun was trown in a ditch? Statments made of Ronald stating he knew who was responsible or Haleighs disappearance.
12. He recants and claims he never made that statement.
Well, somewhere in this I said, he said, you said.. and Basic Common Sense, that say’s none of this makes sense.
mlee, great post!
mlee~ I love it!!! Well thought out post and your right none of this makes sense!
Would any of you freely and knowingly leave your 3-year old with a 17-year-old girl who was in charge when your daughter disappeared? I have my suspicions about Crystal, but I can certainly understand what she is trying to do in this instance.
I doubt any responsible parent in their right mind would want to chance that happening again with the other child. This isn’t a car that got stolen or something else where you might be willing to suffer the loss should it happen again. It’s a child that came up missing while Misty was in charge. It seems to me, despite the blame game, that Misty would feel horrible – that she would be beside herself with grief and remorse and express some sense of responsibility by saying I should have done this or I should have done that, but instead she has a flippant arrogant attitude about it all – not just Misty, but all of them seem that way. Normal people second-guess themselves when something like this happens – geez, even if it were a dog you were watching for a friend that went missing, you would feel terrible and re-think through everything you could have done differently to prevent it from happening (whether or not you could have actually prevented it, it is typical to second-guess yourself).
Regardless of any allegations of abuse, I would NOT want my child anywhere near the person(s) who were in charge at the time my other child came up missing.
Lets face it, there are reasons to suspect both sides – all of them – in this situation whether or not any of them actually had anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. They should all be under suspicion right now for a variety of reasons until proven otherwise. But the last place you want your child is with someone who has a history of losing a child (Ron/Misty whether directly involved or not).
I readily admit to a wrong statement I made in my earlier post. The girl that is the Mother of Ron’s newest daughter, is Amber. The baby girl is tiny, in her Mother’s arms. What I confused, was the photo below it, after re reading the information, I found that it was Misty in the photo with the little girl, and she had also posted a terrible comment directed towards Amber. The link below goes to Amber’s myspace, which she hasn’t used now in a year, and the only comment is from Misty.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=375142511
Sorry, about the mistake.. Will try to do better.
just some food for thought: many keep saying that there are thouands of children missing, why focus on just a few? Well, i was just thinking, true, but then again, no way can we ever focus on thousands. Does that mean we should not focus on any of them?
mlee- that comment left on that page is just sad. These children did not ask to be brought into this world. And if you are going to bring them into the world at least give them a good life. This whole case is so sad and just seems to get more and more twisted and there is a little innocent girl out there somewhere who should be tucked in a safe bed right now or getting up to go to school or out playing with her brother or friends, but she missing. Last night I was listening to the 911 call again and at first I never picked up on something Ron said to Misty after He hung the phone up with 911 and they called back. He handed Misty the phone and in the Background you could hear “$#itch how could let someone stole my child”. I still do not understand why they got married. I do believe that Ron will soon grow to resent Misty and she is going to have a very hard life.
you know the timeline here is being based on Misty’s times of getting up and finding Haleigh gone. What if that is a cover up and she disappeared before Ronald even went to work. Misty may have been told to say that to give Ronald an allibi, that could be why she is having trouble sticking to her story because it isn’t the truth. When it is the truth you automatically remember.
Misty DID say there was a block propping the door open. I never read anywhere she said it was just standing open. I always read a blcok was. I’ve found a lot of the supposed “inconsistencies” in Misty’s story to be mostly pretty consistent or at least understandable. In fact, I find them to be evidence of her innocence. If they were making a story up, they’d get their story straight. As it is, they are human beings who tell stories in ways humans tell stories.
I think it’s a very interesting point, however , that we don’t know when any outside member of the public or independent family member last saw Haleigh with their own eyes. Heck, Haleigh could have disappeared the day before.
A lot of you especially not right are giving way too much credit to this 4 yr old, jr. there are many factors that go into crediting a child of that age. who is to know that kid could be talking about something he saw a year ago. all I know is, that girl is guilty of something.
we need to remember that time is slipping away rapidly. This little girl has been missing too long. If history proves true, this little girl is not far from home. Remember Jessica Lunsford? Think of little Caylee… and Elizabeth Smart.. this is a heart breaking story. And the loser Dad marries jail bait? If this wasn’t a true story, I would think it was from True Story magazine…
Haleigh, I hope you are safe and will be found soon..
They are showing new photos on Nancy Grace Live of Haleigh’s little face with marks all over it. My heart is breaking for this little girl… whoever hurt her, needs to rot in prison with the same sort that abuses small children and animals.
We are not doing something right in America if we allow someone like Ronald Cummings to continue to pro-create and abuse an innocent child.
I am new to this blogging venue, seems like there are a lot of people who seem to know what is going…what is really going on? The truth is that there is a lost little girl that is a victim..the adults are getting too much attention…
Maybe someone should do some coverage of the publics opinion on this case. People have diffrent veiws on what or how it happend. They need to be heard and with the most sensible ones really looked into. It sickens me how they can pop up on TV for just a few days with this case and then leave you in the middle of no where with no information. The Adults need to stop thinking about them selfs! Yes we all know you are devastated but now its time to FIND HALIEGH and forget about your diffrences. WHERE IS THIS LITTLE GIRL!
Bottom line is this, Misty knows what happened to Haleigh, and everybody needs to stop trying to protect her, if she wants to act grown she needs to take responsibility. Haleigh has a medical condition requiring a lot of attention, Misty being just 17 was in competition for Ronalds attention, Haleighs condition obviously caused extra stress around the home. . .Don’t you possibly think that Misty, being a child, wanted Haliegh out of the picture so Ronald would be all hers? Its sad to say, but every possible situation needs to be looked at. Maybe Ronald Jr was even involved in Haleighs “disappearance”. Now were hearing about “Joe”, why hasn’t Misty told police his real name? Where he lives? Somethings really fishy. I have a real good feeling that in the end Misty is going to be seriously involved and she better get what she deserves for hurting that little girl.
Weird stuff. . .
Ronald Jrs mother&Haleighs mother seem to be the only people really concered with bringing Haleigh home.
Ronald&Misty just seem to fake never once have you seen REAL tears come from either of those 2.
Misty still has yet to come up with a solid time line.
Misty is 17, Ronald Jr is how is he? He has no buisness with a child!
Why would you get married while your daughter that you claim you love is missing? And even take a honeymoon.
Right there just proves that they both know Haleigh is not coming back. . .if they were innocent and had hope haleigh was alive they would have waited, after all who wouldn’t want their daughter in their wedding?
Perhaps they got married so in the end they don’t have to testify against eachother? I forgot the name of the law but there is a law that husband&wife can not testify against eachother in court.
i think little cigarette smoker ran out of smokes , couldn,t get haligh to go to sleep so she took her with. when she went in store to get smokes she left her outside. someone took the little girl and she is afraid to tell bully boy friend,she opened the back door and pretended someone took her from the house.
Misty could have made the mark – after the search begain. she had time
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