1st!!!!!!!!!!

Third!!!!!

Morning everyone, any news today?

ron won’t go to trial will he? His lawyer already offered up a plea deal. I think he pleads.

I think tommy gets sentenced to 15 yrs.

I think misty pleads out at the very last minute to save some years.

Imo

Jan and Simon,

Next time you speak to Cobra, or when he’s next on your show, please ask him how he thinks Casey Anthony “accidentally” wrapped THREE STRIPS OF DUCT TAPE tightly across Caylee’s mouth and nose.

He says he believes she killed the child “accidentally”. I really do want to know how that can be done with duct tape. “Let me put this on you, Darling, to see what happens. Oops! Sorry, Caylee, I didn’t realize you wouldn’t be able to breathe.”?

Great show otherwise.

Hello Gang!

Hi, everyone. Myrtle, re your post above, maybe the duct tape was placed post mortem?….

Lindsy has a new pic on her my space, looks like she is wearing a hefty bag.loljmo

And if the boyfriend loved the kid more than her?

wow ,we are fixed,yippppppppy

Myrtle said,in June 28th, 2010 at 3:31 pm Jan and Simon,
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What satan’s daughter did was no mistake,jmo

ConRon,lol

If it looks like a trash bag,walks liike a trash bag,lol jmo Tobias

HTH Could anybody think thats an accident,sheeeeeeeswh,I had faith in ya Cobra!lol

HTH Could anybody think thats an accident,sheeeeeeeswh,I had faith in ya Cobra!lol

Caylees death was no accident.

The only thing to be decided on Casey is life in prison or death.

I don’t want death Jaba,even if its the only thing that did bring tears to caseys eyes,she needs to wake up daily to her new “Beautiful Life” she traded her own daughter for!jmo

Note:

I had to re-enter my name and all before posting. It had cleared out somehow.

Not sure if anyone else had the same issue after the outage. Though I’d pass it on just in case.

I did too Jaba,I been here typind testing 1 2 3 ,constantly today,lol

I haven’t followed the CA case as closely and I am a little confused. It seems to me that I read somewhere that Casey is not his biological daughter? Does anyone have the straight on that?

Alethea,he is,that was a rumor in the beginning! iirc

yvw Alethea!

Alethea,I followed it every single day till Haleigh which turned out to be the day we all said goodbye to little Caylee,her memorial?

go out and come back in,brb lol

Cathy, Misty stayed with the Overstreets from Michigan before she lived in Satsuma. Have you looked at the ones she stayed with? Gee what a bunch that is, Joshua Overstreet is a SO and is now in jail (look him up on the Michigan SO list and notice his tats Flora)
and Brandon Overstreet is also in prison. Lets you see how Misty can fool the cops, she has people who have taught her what to do. jmo

YEA,Tobias,I know she did! and being with Ron helped too,lol jmo

Kayla’s letter was written directly after Gramma Hollers was on her interview road show…. gosh you would think Gramma had just opened a new movie i.e. Angelina Jolie, based on Gramma’s “press junket” and demand for appearances. I found her actions so very sad and again, the continuous D word, dysfunctional. Yet the media clamoured for her ever changing stories.

RE Casey Anthony, I agree, I think Cobra meant Casey accidently caused harm to Caylee and reacted originally as tho it was a mistake, and the tape was added to make it appear a stranger abduction?? If I am ever close to figuring out the Anthony family motives and mindset, it will be time to hang up my blogging keyboard!!

JABA,I said I read it,I was only asking if she heard about it,someone mentioned it on a diff article but i never found the reply?

Jnet,I don’t buy a word from Flora,lol jmo

SEE JABA,
i Am askeert to even ask a question anymore,lol

CathyJo63 said,in June 28th, 2010 at 5:05 pm I wonder if its true that Haleighs hair was found in the yellow rope? I DO NOT KNOW BUT I READ IT,SO I AM ONLY ASKING?

Secours–I also thought Steve Brown (or maybe LE) said arrests/charges would be forthcoming in the next couple of weeks (this was during the last river search). I have not seen anything happen since the that search besides “clearing up” the rumor that the (Natve American) bone was not Haleigh’s. Who knows anything is all I can surmise.

And my question was what was the source? Read it where to be more specific, I guess?

its posted at my 4:42 Jaba,IIRC,Thats where i saw it??

to be more specific that link,lol

Cobra raved about Hardy and LE and said he thought they may know but don’t have enough to prove their conclusion. So he says. We’ll see.

Well,I gotta be honest,if i was ran outta town i might say they did a good job too,might wanna visit one day….jmo

if its not Jbab,its the link after that i posted??

If you remember Cobra told ron,he wanted to go by a bush there around a road near the mobile homee wasn’t it? he said it looked fitting,lol jmo thats when ron said they wouldnt allow misty to drive that van,and we all know she did plenty!

But i do agree,i think Chelsea got that one started,maybe even scratched it themselves,lol
they returned the van so?? jmo

Ok cathy. Give me a minute to read and respond. It will save you some key strokes.

I can’t discount the Joe theory. First of all, he was a visitor to the Croslins at the time of Haleigh’s disappearance. Secondly, the argument with Ron over that gun makes him suspicious to me (not guilty but suspicious). In one of the jailhouse tapes with Tommy, Hank confronts Joe and Hank even states that Joe was crazy. Hank said Joe threatened Misty because of bringing Joe’s name into the investigation. We all look at his myspace page and see his comments. He might not be guilty of anything but being at the wrong place at the wrong time, but he deserves to be investigated, just like all the others. I would also like Chelsea, Timmy, and Lindsey investigated for what happened AFTER the fact. If the Croslins did it (killed Haleigh) then I would venture a bet that MOST of not ALL of them know. Misty would tell Chelsea and Timmy if she was indeed responsible. Just my opinion though.

is it possible to listen to your podcast on Stitcher on the iphone?

Jaba–unless they can tie that rope to the rope found at Tommy’s residence (if they found any).

sorry guys,My daughter is expecting anytime really,so I’m bak and fro………

It just made me curious is all??

True Robin,I gotcha but just imho I think they could have gotten JO by now if they wanted him?? jmo which isn’t much anyway,lol I mean they have his clothes,questioned him,he tool LD right? so i guess i am solid on him being the “scapegoat” if anything! jmo still tho

CathyJo,
I looked on the site you had posted about Ron and MDave and I didn’t find anything about Ron.

wow Tobias,omg 18 the hair pulling stage,lucky i have a twig left,lol j/k
I would have liked another,my dtr is 31 now but wasn’t medically good for me too so I didn’t chance it!

CathyJo,
I looked on the site you had posted about Ron and MDave and I didn’t find anything about Ron.

hm,You should have Cricket,theres alot of stuff,now as to where its true i can’t tell ya,lol Isn’t marinade dave the one who was in the middle of Bozo and Judge Strickland?

Anything new helps John,to me anyhoo,lol

yes ChathyJo it was Dave. But I don’t think Dave posts things hes not to sure of.

If you look at the Myspaces for Joes sisters Kristy and Kayla, you will see they are really different from the rest of the family. Kayla especially. I find her letter believable, about Joe and her Grandma Hollars. Kayla is all about her kids and Husband.jmo

I don’t believe Joe did it either, but then again I don’t think any of the ones in jail are guilty besides the drug trafficking. I think very strongly that it was a neighborhood SO or one who has flown under LE’s radar. Though all have exhibited some bizarre and unexplainable behavior, I am not going to judge their guilt/innocence on that behavior. I like some solid forensic proof that they are guilty and I have yet to see that–not hair, clothing, body, or bones have been found that we know of. Actually we can not definitively proof that Haleigh is dead. JMO

Right Robin,Understand that!
But I believe theres one in jail guilty and one whose covering for that one…jmo?? mine only,lol

Cricket–The letter was posted on Marinade Dave’s site because I read it there when it first came out. I am with you John. I believed it was sincere too.

My juice just went off,shut everything down,lol
Its coming a storm!

Jaba–I agree too. I believe a jury will convict on this case whether it be Tommy or Misty on pure emotion. The media saturation has been antiCroslin since the beginning. I would hope a jury would consider only the evidence, but I believe it would be hard to separate what they have read and heard (which people like that shouldn’t be on a jury anyways) from the actual evidence. I wonder if they would even get a fair trial–definately not in the county they live in–in the state of Florida. It would be hard to find a jury that has not heard of this case. JMO

BE SAFE GUYS BB!

John–Consider the sources. Misty and Tommy have been in LE’s sights for a while now. They are incarcerated and need a scapegoat to maybe win a plea deal. Chelsea has tried to make money/car off this case. Flo Hollars has been on Nancy Grace (enough for me) and has had several different versions to tell. What her motivations are I will not mention. But all of these people have an agenda–and none have been about finding Haleigh. Its been about cash, media attention, or saving their own necks. That is just my opinion though.

I know alot of people who never watch TV and are too busy working to even keep up with general info. It wont be hard since this case hasnt been in the media since April. jmo

Jaba–This case has turned me into a cynic. I am skeptical and a little wary if this case will ever see a resolution or get to trial. I know you can prosecute without a body but I believe that is going to be a tough hurdle to overcome in my opinion. A defense lawyer would only have to play Marie Griffis’s rantings early on (like someone transporting Haleigh to Georgia or Alabama) or even Kim Picazio’s dirty tricks (media/blog assassinations of Ron and Misty) to at least stir up some reasonable doubt. I just hope LE does get the right person–no matter who it is–and they have the evidence–forensic evidence–to prove it. I also hope they find Haleigh–if not people will always be saying “what if…”

tobias said,in June 28th, 2010 at 3:58 pm Lindsy has a new pic on her my space, looks like she is wearing a hefty bag.loljmo
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Robin: That’s exactly why I don’t under stand tommy’s plea with no deal. The police and prosecutors are going to punish him for giving them misleading and incomplete information.

Lindsy LPN on myspace.

tobias.. I must be slow.. I still can’t pull it up??

Go to my space and put in her name Lindsy LPN.

John–I don’t know what LE would do with Tommy–who by the way has not been the only liar in this case–if they found out he was misleading them. It seems they would be charging quite a few people for lying or obstructing justice, not to mention hindering the investigation. But then I have to question LE for conducting an expensive search on the words of a reputed liar. He recanted early on about his whereabouts (was he at the MH or not) on the night Haleigh went missing. Also I believe if LE interrogates someone long enough and hard enough–pressure them–then you will probably hear what you want to hear. This case has been one long road of LIES, in my opinion, and I believe LE has contributed to some of those lies.

CathyJo63 said,in June 28th, 2010 at 6:00 pm My dtr was born c-section too Tobias!
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OMG!..TMI!

Amen Robin!!!

OJ- I think you caused the system to go down! You forgot to say that MISTY is INNOCENT and the system was shocked! lol

My son was born via C-section too.

Cathy maybe Oj still believes in the stork, we better be careful he may need therapy.loljmo

Adams,when Ota had Dakota and he weighed 9lbs?
Oh how Thankful I was,LoL For a c-section! lol
I was in the delivery room with her,omgggggg

rofl Tobias! OJ must be in a coma cause he ain’t defending Misty,lol

Lady,thats what I thought,honestly…….I know she”s been working out but dang!!lol

But the eyes and face look nothing like Lindsy.

OJ, Breath just breath, someone get him a drink of water. We should all know men cant take pain or even the thought of pain. lol

Lets compare how many staples we had and he may need SPR. lol

John–I think for the drug charges he is looking at 3 yrs min and 30 yrs maximum. I believe it is all up to the judge’s discretion (if I understand correctly). Tommy (in my opinion) has not put himself in a good light. He has a rap sheet that isn’t pretty at all. Its going to be interesting what he gets. JMO

staples ain’t no doggone vacation,I tell ya! lol

OM DEAR GOD Lady!!!!!

Needless to say she is an only child, LOL.

CathyJo- Or maybe Lindsy. Though she may give him a little more to get his heart going!

I’d say that would do it for both of em,rofl Alex!

I understood that you can’t get in trouble for telling the police lies. It is only if you are sworn in during a deposition or a court testimony that you can get in trouble.
People lie to the police all the time and are under no obligation to tell them anything. The burden is not on them to provide the police with the facts and information.
If that was true about having to tell the truth, more people would be in jail than are out. lol.

Also, that family has something with the Number 3, eh?

I was born during an eath quake in lawton OKLA in June 1959. My mom says the lights went out the room shook and there I was.lol

Months ago, I wrote on the comments, that I wished that PCSO would just go after the Croslins with everything they had, just to tear them up in investigating.. And when they finally did and ran into a major dead end.. Where would they go?? I’m wondering now, where is PCSO going next?

Anyway, I wanted to share something that I went through the other night.. First of all, I want to explain to you the difference between the “Letter of the Law” and the “Spirit of the Law”.. When Law Enforcement Officers go by the Letter of the Law, they are following the book right to the last word.. No variance.. When following the Spirit you use your judgment and common sense in determining the action you need to take. If any at all..

The other night, I watched a movie, that I’m sure that I’ve seen before, and it didn’t seem to leave an impact in the past that it did the other night.. The movie is called “Gone Baby Gone”.. The movie begins with a child taken from her Bed.. it flows through confusion and lack of evidence, and deals with issues of Child molesters.. and through the investigation, it is believed the child was taken by a drug dealer over money owed.. Thats when it began to catch my eye.. followed through where the child is believed to be drowned in a bungled issue trying to retrieve her.. and they did have a Memorial.. The dedicated PI involved in the case, began to put pieces together, and the puzzle began to make sense.. The PI finds the little Girl.. and this is where my heart began to ache..
This precious little girl comes running out the door into the arms of the man who has been taking care of her, along with his wife.. The child is happy, she’s loved and cared for..
The PI has a choice to make, to follow the letter of the law.. or the spirit of the law.. and he is so dedicated to the written law, his decision to return this precious child back to a mother, who because she is the bio mom, deserves her child back!!! Although, she’s involved in drugs, she stole drug money, she would leave the child at home alone, had left her at one point in the car at the beach, and the child came very close to dying..

For some reason, this clicked with Haleigh.. What if Haleigh is alive and well, and all know that I do believe she is.. What if she were being raised right now by a couple who love her and she’s happy and content with her new life.. She actually has a chance of growing up away from the drug invested lifestyle she was born into.. torn between two parents who are equally as bad in the drug world.. The question I ask myself, If I found Haleigh.. What would I do?? And I know the answer.. What would any of you do? Would you bust your butts to return her into the muck of Putnam County or Baker County? Or would you leave her and walk away?

hi Alex, CJ, and LadyS…..

Heya ILoves!!

what jail is Misty in?? (totally forgot…)

I’d leave her be Mlee?? jmo

Better than a in the middle of a tornado, you may have gotten lost. 🙂

dtr phone,brb

Misty is in St. Johns in St. Augustine.

I do not mean any disrespect to Mr. Brown, and I am so sorry he is ill will cancer, a very hideous disease. However, I think people are only talking about his local TV interview he gave around the time TC and MC were taken to the boat ramp/dock. He did say he had solved the case and the responsible person would be arrested “in the next few days”. It is no different than we have heard numerous times from experts, “the case will be solved in the very near future”. I doubt anyone meant their words to be negative of SB, however it was his story he chose to tell and many assumed it was the final chapter. Unfortunately we have many outside of LE that have claimed or projected “I see an end soon” and I seriously doubt anyone is in a position to make such claims.

thanks Tobias…
and jaba…. love your family dedication…. hugs!!!

Cathy I have thought that over a lot too, and yes I would leave her there. She deserves the chance at life without the drugs and from what we have uncovered most didnt deserve to have her. jmo

Ils,

That’s a great word for it. Its not duty or obligation or no one else around so its me thing, its dedication. Thanks for putting it that way. I appreciate it. I know my parents would do anything for me, within reason-my dad aint covering up a murder for me- but you know what I mean, both parents in your corner and a ww2/korea/viet nam vet with a guard dog mentality. It rubs off. Lucky mom had compassion, some rubbed off their too.

My dads service, to me, yes, family matters-non negotiable.

Ty for the thought. I appreciate it. 🙂

Yep, I made a promise to my father I’d never put him in a nursing home and kept my word; he had alzheimers and it got really tough at times, but I was in it for the long haul, so I know what you mean.
Did we lose our OJ in the previous conversation that was TMI? LOL
Come back out now OJ! I know you can handle it!

Well, it is getting late in the Sunshine State and 5:30 am comes way too early. Night, all.

2 minutes for a 2 mile detour to the Satsuma Handy Way
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that is not the store he stopped at that night. He stopped at the one not far from where he worked, not Satsuma.

WhyLie–I agree with your 9:20 post.

I would definitely call the law. It’s not our right to be judge or jury or play God and decided who should be with whom. I doubt seriously if Haleigh is with someone else she is happy. Why would she be happy being taken from the only people she’s known her whole life? The person that turns around and walks away is no better than the kidnappers that took her, I don’t care who took her, they kidnapped her.

she arrived after the cops so it took her longer than 5 minutes since it took the cops longer than that to arrive.

LadyDay–Who do you think took Haleigh?

Cricket said,
in June 28th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

VQ,
you always say important things,no spin on it, you just put it plain and simple.
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Thanks, the truth never has to be spun 😉

LadySadie,
Can you please tell me how I find Misty on that site , I couldn’t find her.

Cricket- It’s Misty Cummings

Thanks, Vaquera. Hard to keep up when there is various opinions out there that LE was at Tommy’s and went right over to Ron’s when that call came in. 2:15, 3:27 recording of 1 911 call, no proof of the 1st 911 call, if there was one.

I’m not trying to be funny or smart about who I think did this, don’t want to be sued or anything.

LadyDay,TN is the one herself who said she made it 3-5 minutes!

I can’t speak for anybody but me WhyLie,lol
But if family had her to protect her,wouldn’t bother me a bit,but strangers it certainly would!!!!!!!!! They may be no better than anybody else in the mix of all this!
But if she is alive I pray someone did it to save her from something? jmo

CJ I also hope that somebody took Haleigh and she is still alive, but knowing what we know about the families I doubt she would have been taken to protect her. She would have been taken out of hate and revenge. And if per chance she was taken for her own protection that does not make it right and it does not mean that those that committed the crime should go unpunished.

For some reason, this clicked with Haleigh.. What if Haleigh is alive and well, and all know that I do believe she is.. What if she were being raised right now by a couple who love her and she’s happy and content with her new life.. She actually has a chance of growing up away from the drug invested lifestyle she was born into.. torn between two parents who are equally as bad in the drug world.. The question I ask myself, If I found Haleigh.. What would I do?? And I know the answer.. What would any of you do? Would you bust your butts to return her into the muck of Putnam County or Baker County? Or would you leave her and walk away?
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Lookinng,I see what you’re saying,I do but the ? I answered was this one which sounds like a fairy tale compared to what we have learned,Myself as an adoptee can say Thank God I was given to someone who would care for me when my own family refused to be parents! jmo

In all honesty,I just don’t see cs caring enough?? jmo

I do not think Ron abused Haleigh (just my opinion though). When Kim P came out with those abuse allegations, the prior abuse would have come out too. When Ron got custody of the children, I would imagine they offered or maybe even ordered parenting classes. This class probably discussed the proper way to discipline children. This is just my opinion though.

right Robin,LoL We can agree to disagree,lol but jmo too,like you! lol

I just can’t believe she’s never been found,and at the same time,I don’t like saying it but how could she be hidden so well if she isn’t alive,without one clue or anything!

I am just afraid too Whylie,that what if she is alive or was for a time but b/c of the chance of being caught someone would do something bad? just never know with this bunch! jmo

CathyJo63 said,
in June 28th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

vaquera said,in June 28th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

So you’re saying Druggies and dealers are good parenting,imho Haleigh and Jr are just like Misty and the rest,Never had a chance! but jmo
And it’s pretty obvious to me,Ron all but admitted straight up he abused her?? I whip my child the way dcs tells me I can,She and I have an agreement?? jmo tho
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If you took the kids away from everyone who took pain meds for chronic pain, xanax/zoloft or whatever for depression, ambien to go to sleep, psych meds for mental illness,alcoholics and those that take the same drugs except without a prescription there wouldn’t be many children being raised by their parents. only different is one has a prescription and one doesn’t.

Nothing wrong with spanking or whipping as we call it in the south. I got my licks growing up and so did my kids and I wasn’t abused and neither were my kids.

Alexandria–Thanks for the case. I never heard of that case before. It is interesting for sure. But I do think of Jr and what he must be going through without his sister and probably wondering what happened. He is an innocent in all this too. If family did take her for the reasons you mentioned in the Morgan case, why did they leave Jr in that environment for so long afterwards? That’s one reason I would question the motives of family taking her. It would be revenge and not abuse if the Sheffields took her.

Alex, cases like that are very tuff. The problem is that often times divorcing spouse accuse the other parent of abuse. It is not uncommon and it is not always true. While the laws don’t always work in every case, it is all we have to help protect parents who are wrongfully accused and to protect the children who have a right to have the parent in their life.

kinda bothers me!!

I think it is out of state family member that has her and I think Ron and his family maybe knew there was a threat of some kind looming. How long did it take Crystal to go over to Satsuma? I heard it was 8 hours and she lived 70 miles away and said she was afraid of Ron? She had her children every weekend or every other weekend? Couldn’t have been that afraid. What was her excuse for not having the children that weekend?

The elder Croslins can be exnayed from this, they probably did care for her, who wouldn’t? but they are not blood related, no dog in the fight.

I’ll put on my big girl panties tomorrow and try to word it as not to get into a problem. One time I had only 1 idea who did this, it turned into 4 and now it’s down to 2.

CJ I pray every day that it was a family member that took Haleigh. I hate to think of what happened to that baby if it was TC that took her.

they sure had motive!

I think Ellen was about 11 when it happened & there was documentation of the injuries to her! The judge still felt that the father should have unsupervised visits! It was a sad case in the late 1980’s.
But what do you think about the Caylee case. Do you think she would not have been better off if Grandma Plesea had taken her?

All I know,or think rather is its one heck of a story…….just the way everybody has covered up,imo its gotta be bad!!

Abductions of a child have long lasting effects.

Removing children from their family is a last resort. There are studys and statistics that show it is best to keep the children with their mother or father if at all possible. This is why we have the courts and social services and resources, to help those parents and children.

I said in many posts before that there are people who think they are doing this child a favor, or are getting justice, by taking her away from her father. We may not like the situations that these children are in, but no one has the right to take a child. That is kidnapping and I would never condone such an act. It is a felony.

It is considered a felony kidnapping for a parent to take a child out of state without the other parents permission when they share custody. So, weigh that against some relative coming to your home in the middle of the night and taking you out of your bed, never to see your family again, all because in their mind, that is what is best for you.

If this is what happened, I hope they keep sentenced to LWOP! I know a few young people that I think their kids deserve a better life, but I have no right to judge that and I have no right to say who and who can’t have their own child, especially because of my opinion of them.

Haleigh did not look neglected to me. She had plenty of family that loved her.

Anyway, those are my thoughts.

LOL, reading the posts about OKLA. I lived in Lawton Ok. for 4 years. I worked as a tech at Reynolds Army Hospital on Ft. Sill. I lived in a little duplex between Lawton Blvd. and Gore Blvd. This was in 73. Small world.

Alex, imo children who have been abused, neglected, murdered by a family member would be/ have been better off in a different home BUT kidnapping them is not the answer.

casey was young and wild,but to be fair,Cindy made her do what she didn’t want to do!Keep Caylee? jmo

Exactly Alex,it got her the death penalty that casey is so afraid of for herself!!! jmo

CathyJo- there were many times when Cindy said she would seek custody at that point Casey should have said “Go for it!”. But I think there was a revenge Motive there.
Casey is Mommy Dearest
Ron is Daddy Dearest
IMO

I don’t see that Casey and Ron are the same at all. Casey looked her baby in the eyes and watched the life drain out of her at her own hands. I do not for a second believe that Ron did or could do that to Haleigh.

WhyLie- I haven’t seen as many pictures of Haleigh ( maybe Ron didn’t have too many & that’s why TN had to bring one over)as I have of Caylee. But I saw a sparkle in her eyes too in some of the pictures and how she sang to her great grandpa and her concern about him asking him if he was tired! She showed her love!

are you asking me whats wrong with it WhyLie,if it is.lol I see everything wrong with it,You can’t force someone to keep what they don’t want,b/c look what happens.jmo
Sindy was overbearing,casey even said in the interrogation that she always worried about disappointing Sindy……jmo who she was most afraid of basically,casey wanted to party but Sindy made her come home each night when she went out and wanted to party! jmo

are you asking me whats wrong with it WhyLie,if it is.lol I see everything wrong with it,You can’t force someone to keep what they don’t want,b/c look what happens.jmo
Sindy was overbearing,casey even said in the interrogation that she always worried about disappointing Sindy……jmo who she was most afraid of basically,casey wanted to party but Sindy made her come home each night when she went out and wanted to party! jmo

didn’t you hear them say she wanted to adopt Caylee out and Cindy went off!!!!!!!!

she feared being an unfit person or mother in Sindy’S eyes…jmo!

probably thousand of pix of Haleigh and Ron online and even I have to admit,both always smiling from ear to ear! jmo

i speak a different language,thought you were asking,lol

I too, see sadness in Caylee’s eyes.

We got a grandma who got to Ron’s in breakneck speed, she did say 3 to 5 minutes, could have been 15 minutes, but she was following behind a squad car upon arrival, we got Chelsea who lives 2 miles away and got there in 3 hours, we got Crystal and family down there in the daytime from 70 miles away. What in hellfire is wrong with this picture?

It seemed to me (just my opinion though) that Casey was looking for an excuse (she wanted to give up Caylee) to justify why she killed her own daughter. She has NEVER taken any responsibility for her bad behaviors and her parents never made her. Like vaquera stated Casey was at the age that if she wanted to give up Caylee then she could have. It was only HER decision not Cindy’s to make. Casey made the most selfish decision in killing her own child and I hope she gets the death penalty for it. JMO

Robin,Cindy is the devil in disguise,And no doubt casey knew if she did,her money would be cut off!

Thats why imho,casey was jealous Caylee got more than she did from them when she came along! jealousy played a huge part,imo

Casey and Cindy used Caylee to try and control each other. But Cindy was the grandmother, she knew what Casey was, she knew that Caylee would not be safe with Casey, and Cindy’s priority should have been to protect Caylee, not to try and mold Casey into mother of the year, that was never going to happen.

WhyLie-ITA

Well Ladies it’s 10:20pm here in CA and that’s past my bedtime! Goodnight All!

Bedtime for me as well. Goodnight everybody.

me too,gnite everyone whose here,lol

Alex ,
thank you I found her. are they saying she gets different things in that place whatever they call it. seems as tho she would do all rite there.

is anyone still here

Hello to all..

Hey Lady!!!!

Happy Tuesday.. help/hugs for HaLeigh today!!!!

Good Morning everyone! Heard on Fox that Kyron Horman’s dad is filing for a divorce from step-mom! I wonder if LE gave him some info or he has his own suspicions! Kind of reminds me of the Haleigh case!

mlee, Good Morning! I appreciate your post. A couple of questions for you. Do you have an opinion/records about HaLeigh being in school the week prior, Feb 2-6? And Jerry (?) Santos, who fought so hard to throw out what he said?

Alex, Although the only “other” person who saw her at the bus stop on Monday, that I know of, that has been named specifically, is Chelsea. As for Crystal not having “them” that weekend, mlee is saying that it was even prior to that weekend. And Misty leaving Ron with the children who Gma Sykes had to care for, perhaps could have been just Jr.? I am not endorsing the “not returned” idea, just considering it and clarifying.

Alex, At this point, I am not sure who would be or is saying what about when they last saw HaLeigh! I wish someone (besides AH 🙁 ) would do an in-depth journalistic investigation on this story and talk to the school, parents at the bus stop, neighbors, to see if anybody is willing to go “on record” (just journalistic record) as being sure that they saw HaLeigh at a certain place and time.

Cate, there is a faction.. group persay that deemed Santos as unreliable.. part of the reason it had to do with AH, as he became part of the don’t listen to AH sessions.

No, GGSykes did not have the children that weekend.. And if anyone claims she did, its a brand new revelation.. something that just appeared, out of the clear blue and distant memories..

I worked on that weekend for almost a year, trying to determine who did have the children. This is where it went.. Plus, new info that melted in from Hank Sr. Ta Da…

Haleigh is absent from school on Monday, in School on Tue and wed.

Wednesday Night, February 4th, misty was suppose to be at home with the kids as ron worked.. Ron arrived home around 1:30am, no misty.. Ron calls Hank Sr. and ask where is misty? Hank Sr. doesn’t know, and ron tells him, okay.. I’ll go out and look for her.. Hank responds, are you going to leave the kids home alone, Ron’s response, they’ll be okay, their sleeping.. Thursday the 5th. Haleigh does not go to school, ron and misty get into a terrible fight.. Tn advised it was over her text to ron, telling him she would back his decision to reunite with Crystal in a family matter.. Misty pulls the I’m pregnant and it blows up.. Ron roughs misty up and throws her out.. TN picks up the kids and babysits them for the night.. Fri Haleigh is in school.

Now I ask about who had the kids for the weekend.. I ask if Crystal had the kids, and at first I was told YES.. that TN and ron took the kids to meet Crystal.. About 2 months later, I am told.. Oh NO, thats not right.. I forgot and had to ask my Mom.. That wasn’t Crystal’s weekend, that was Ron’s weekend, and Ron had the kids..
I ask, If Ron had the kids, was Crystal at the house with them? Since they were planning on going back together, that would seem logical.. I sparked an angry response, that said.. NO, but she sure was blowing up the phone!!! Now, one point that I would like to bring out.. If that weekend, which would have been the last weekend the family spent with Haleigh.. Why isn’t every detail burned into their memories?
I ask, Well if ron had the kids, the issue that Nay Nay brought out about misty returning to ron, but she needed to bring a condom?? So, why a condom? were they planning on having sex with the kids right here.. Again, I sparked an angry response.. NO.. Ronald has rules about no sexual activity any where around the kids!! Standard DCF spill???
So, where were the children that weekend?? We don’t know.. There have been no details for that weekend ever brought out in a year and a half!!! Oh and by the way, Haleigh is listed as attending school on February 24th, that everyone can see as a mistake on the school part.. but everyone is absolutely sure that her being listed as present on the 9th is right on the money… confusing??? pick and choose what elements you want in this case..

I think that when Haleigh’s bus driver and teacher were questioned they let LE know if Haleigh was at school on Monday. There is absolutely no proof that Haleigh was not with her paternal family that weekend.

I do not believe for a minute that Ron, Misty, or anybody else would keep up a charade for 17 months if it was Haleigh was not returned home from a visit. LE would never have been called. They would have done what the family on both sides have done for years, they would have handled it.

Keep it simple. Haleigh was taken from her home while Ron was at work and Misty was sleeping/not home, by whom and for what purpose has not been proven yet. But I do not believe that this is a case of not returning Haleigh home after a visit. Why would they return Jr and not Haleigh? Jr was quite capable of talking, do you not think he would have told somebody?

I think we sometimes try to stretch this case to places where there is absolutely no proof just because of our own personal feelings towards some of the players.

BBL- Have to take mom for lab work. They start drawing at 7am so what to get there early so we don’t have to be out in the 199+ heat today!

i nevee heard the part that ron was getting back with crystal before..is that true..does anyone know. And does anyone know for SURE..if the ac man was ever questioned..besides heresay..Ive never seen him on tv, questioned by anyone, and he would be the ONLY person not related, who saw her that day..if he did.

ggt – LE did talk with the ac guy. I believe LE mentioned it at some point. He has stayed in the background. I don’t know why but I can’t fault him for managing to stay out of the media glare. Not everyone wants that kind of 5 minutes of “fame.”

Supposedly CS and R talked on the phone, supposedly about getting back together. I don’t know who initiated the subject. It’s possible these calls had something to do with M being mad or a fight she and R had which could have caused her to leave and go binging.
I would not go so far as to say that R and CS were getting back together. Just talking on the phone – maybe about that.

Im postitive I read that CS had them that weekend and this is when her fiance made the comment “the kids didn’t want to go back to Ron and Misty’s”. (which I think is an absolute lie). I think the kids loved Misty and Ron and wanted to go back from their weekend visit.

This is the time when her fiance became a suspicious character (after making that statement). He, himself has supposedly hid his own kids out for a year with no one finding them, and boasts about it. I think he is a very likely suspect in all of this. He may of thought he could do the same with Haliegh and Jr.. (Only Misty woke up in the middle of it and foiled the plan for getting Jr out).

He may of taken things into his own hands because he heard from Crystal about Ron and her stories of him beating everyone, blah blah blah. He may of wanted to play savior and look good to CS for saving her from Ron (lol and all the child support she owed). Since CS was with this fiance, he was gonna feel the burn of their money having to go for this.

He is a very big suspect in my opinion.

mlee @ 7:57 am, are you saying that CS did not return Haleigh after a visit???? So why the 911 call by M and R? There is no logic on earth that would explain them putting themselves as the last people to see her and claim taking her to and from the bus and who’s home she disappeared from if this is – as you seem to be saying – a situation where CS/maternal side took her for her own good.
Makes no sense at all for R or M to be involved in covering up for that.

JenM –
About CS’s fiance, Chad, saying “her fiance made the comment “the kids didn’t want to go back to Ron and Misty’s”. It COULD be true but not for the horrible reasons some people think.
It happens all the time. One parent who only has the kids for the weekend, spoils them, let’s them run free on the farm, no discipline, obviously no school. It’s like vacation. Who wants vacation to end and have to return to work? (or school) So I can regard it as a big lie on Chad’s part or true if based on what I just described.

And yes the money is a BIG part of this. Chad and CS were engaged and her owing a whopping 12 grand and more monthly payments for many years probably would really hammer their financial/credit status. Taking only Haleigh is much less suspicious (especially as a custodial kidnapping) than taking both children AND gets M and R in trouble. So that could have been deliberate. Plus MG lied to give Chad an alibi.

WhyLie@ 9:03 – No, there is no reason for R’s family or M’s to keep a secret like that. The only ones who’ve who’ve slithered thru this totally unscathed AND gotten what they wanted – are the G/S’s. Hmmm.

Alex, I see you are following Kyrons case too. I am trying to recall something. On the day Kyron was taken to school by the step-mom didn’t she take 2 pics of Kyron standing beside his science project? one with his glasses on and one with his glasses off? iirc I really think she is behind it because it shows she took Kyron to school,but she knew the media would need recent pics of Kyron and she took 2 to show what he looks like with his glasses off.Every pic I have seen of Kyron he has had his glasses on,except of the one with his dad swimming in the pool.jmo

So true you guys. M2C, I know kids will say all kinds of things, but he sure tried to make it out to be the way he wanted, lol. My kids didn’t want to come back from their dad’s house for those same reasons. He let them run wild with no discipline and it was fun time. When they had to come back to me, it was structure, consistency and school! lol.

I do like your thought about “Taking only Haleigh is much less suspicious (especially as a custodial kidnapping) than taking both children AND gets M and R in trouble. So that could have been deliberate.” It sure explains a lot to me.

They KNEW Ron was working nights and Misty would be there alone. Its possible that someone came in the front door and went out the back, thus no break in on the back door. I think they planned to get Jr out too, thus the brick to hold the door open. And why leave a brick there for evidence? I think Misty woke up and foiled the plan, that’s why the brick was left there.

You also said, “Plus MG lied to give Chad an alibi.” YEP! Sure all adds up to me. I hope Chad is the missing suspect they have been talking about. He was probably getting tired of hearing CS whine about how she didn’t get custody and how angry she was about it and how much she and her family hated Ron and how she didn’t think it was fair that the kids called Misty momma and how she owed all that back child support. Life just wasn’t fair for CS. What better way to even the score!!! Just sayin….revenge and money are the top two motivators for crimes.

WhyLie The week-end that had passed was Crystals week-end to have the children. Crystal said she had not seen Haleigh in two weeks and that Ron told her she could not pick them up on that friday because if Haleigh missed anymore school he would go to jail. Haleigh was in school that Monday and got off the bus after that day of school. Haleigh disappeared after that.

I posted an article from the BNN archives a few threads ago. It supported Texasmommys statement that Crystal loves her children and wanted them back. TJ Hart had written in the article that there were a handful of open DCF cases against Ronald by Crystal prior to Haleighs disappearance and that CS was trying to regain custody. I will try and find that article again.

WhyLie I found the interview. It is on Feb 11th,2009 Crystal Sheffield Mother of missing Haleigh Cummings. I found it on you tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80BfC3Zig3s.

Alethea, Grund is not the biological father, but he loved Casey enough to want to marry her and raise Caylee as his own. The father was thought to be the daughter of a man that supposedly died in a car accident. Basicly, no one really knows who the father is, but a DNA test was done, and Grund is definitely not the baby daddy. I followed this case until the end. I laid it to rest mostly when the baby was laid to rest. God will provide the ultimate justice where needed.

JenM @ 9:22am
Exactly.
And for those who think CS could not have done this, I agree. All the motives you attribute to her are right but she hasn’t the brains or energy to even think of this nevermind carry it off. It would be MG, possibly JS and Chad.

Shockwave I agree that God will provide the Justice for Caylee.AMEN

m2c@8:50am- You’re probably roght about the a/c man & 15 minutes of fame! look what happened to Roy KronK1

We also do not know if Crystal and Marie didnt show up until later because they may have gone to PCSD first.jmo-

Tobias you could be right about that. I never thought of that.
Goodmorning Tobias and methinks.

mlee, thanks for the post, very interesting and very plausible.

If ANYONE is hiding HaLeigh, I applaud them, and cheer because she is alive and well.

And still, EVERYONE involved in this covering-up needs to be accountable to the law.

If I decided that a child was in serious harm and jeopordy and that child/family services and the courts just weren’t getting it, I would take that child and go into hiding. But I would do it knowing that if the law caught up with me, I would dutifully serve my punishment. It’s the test of how truly you believe that the child is in danger versus any personal motivations you might have.

There is a price for heroism/marytrdom.

mlee, so you got this information first hand? Are you able to tell us who is on the other end of the phone conversation? All due respect if you are not able but I’m having a hard time figuring it out. Thanks again.

m2c, It does make sense, though. Ron wanted to expedite getting his child back so he claimed that she was abducted to force a hand. It makes total sense, although perhaps wasn’t completely thought through :).

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m2c said,in June 29th, 2010 at 9:00 am mlee @ 7:57 am, are you saying that CS did not return Haleigh after a visit???? So why the 911 call by M and R? There is no logic on earth that would explain them putting themselves as the last people to see her and claim taking her to and from the bus and who’s home she disappeared from if this is – as you seem to be saying – a situation where CS/maternal side took her for her own good.
Makes no sense at all for R or M to be involved in covering up for that.

This is in the court docs which clearly shows not only was Crystal served she responded to the courts. It was up to her to keep her address updated with the courts. Ron gave the courts the address he had for her, she was served and responded which shows that was a valid address. Not Ron or anybody elses fault if Crystal moved and did not update her address with the court. And still the court gave her another chance, another hearing.
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09/16/2005 007. SUMMONS ISSUED:CRYSTAL DIANE SHEFFIELD 9/19/2005
09/16/2005 .ADDRESS:11024 ARROWBROOK JAX FL 32221
09/16/2005 .SUMM RT 10-26-05 SVD 10-05-05 DUE 10-25-05
10/18/2005 008. ANSWER FILED BY PETITIONER

Me too Alex. The grandpa is saying that there is a 50/50 chance the step-mom will be arrested for kyrons disappearance. They know something!

Melee are you talking to Crystal Cummings? I took a guess when you typed they would have to ask their mom. I think only TN could have the info this person was giving you.

Cate so you would be comfortable flying off to Africa and kidnapping a child from their family because the child was not being fed or housed properly? Or you would be willing to fly off to Haiti and snatch toddlers off the street who are walking barefooted in the muck and sewage looking for food because of their parents financial situation and the devastation after the earthquake? It is no different. Kidnapping is kidnapping is kidnapping.

There were many people who said that DCF did not do their job and should have removed the children, but as long as the child is being raised inside the boundaries of the law, DCF has no right to remove a child. There was never any abuse allegations substantiated against Ron which would give DCF grounds to remove the children.

Agree with you both Alex and Tobias.

Cate @ 10:42 am – IF CS did not return the kids on time or for days after, it WOULD legally be kidnapping by a non-custodial parent. As WhyLie said, all it would take is a call to LE. This theory holds water as well as a vegetable strainer IMO.

Just saying no one asked so we dont really know where they were. Y our idea is just as dreamed up as mine is. I agree to disagree. Its not proven for a fact either way. jmo

I could see MG and CS going to the police station when arriving in Satsuma to find out any info that had come out since the initial phone call that early morning and I am sure LE wanted to speak with them also.JMO

It was stated that Ron and Misty were taken down to the Sheriffs office to be questioned. Ron and Misty could have been down there upon their arrival. Who better to get info from than LE?jmo

lfj- The dad has taken their daughter, moved out of the house & filed a restraining order! It must be something serious!

WhyLie- If she was truly served! I’m sorry but I don’t trust anything KP said, just as I have difficulty beleiving anything said by the Satsuma 5 lawyers or Casey Anthony’s!
If she was served I would want to see the Proof of Service Form to see how & by whom it was served!

Alex you can get that from Putnam county, might cost you a few dollars, but others did get it very early on in the case.

M2C–I thought I read early on that Crystal and Marie stopped at the police station on that day before making it to Ron’s. I would assume LE would want to get their alibi as soon as possible and which it wouldn’t be a stretch to say they also wanted to throw their two cents worth about Ron and his parenting abilities. Its not a hard sell that the police station would be their first stop not only to find out the info LE had so far but to malign Ron as well. This is purely conjecture on my part though. JMO

m2c said,in June 29th, 2010 at 11:07 am Oh, yeah, Tobias, makes a lot of sense for MG and CS to have driven all the way to the area of Haleigh’s disappearance and sit in a nearly deserted police station while everyone else is out looking for Haleigh and no one know about it until you imagined it and suggested it here.
Sure. (Not)
CS and MG would have been on the news whining and crying about waiting anxiously at the police station. Gee whiz. Talk about dreaming up stuff. Anything to deflect from the G/S’s it seems.
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exactly..glad someone else noticed this nonsense

Sorry left out “say” between they & what!

Tobias – We know when CS was informed, when JS arrived on scene and when CS and MG showed up. If they’d been there – at PCSO station – all those hours, it would have been reported. Or were CS and MG hiding their earlier arrival all this time? Again, makes no sense IMO.

Response to: mlee said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 7:57 am

Where are you getting your “information” that Haleigh was absent from school on Mon., in school on tue & wed the absent on Thurs. the 5th. Who told you that Crystal had the kids?

Before we can judge for ourselves whether any of this you are saying has any truth to it we would have to see verification of what you are “telling” us, for all we know you could be another of the bloggers that tried to get in so “tight” with Kim P and are now disgruntled.

Sorry, but I don’t just “buy” stories put out by bloggers that say “I was told”. Would like to see the documentation of the “told”.

Alex–No but then again I haven’t been able to find it anymore. I might have been dreaming I guess. I have looked for it so it could explain why it took so long for them to arrive. I have never been able to pinpoint what time they arrived anywhere that day. There is no proof anywhere that I have searched about CS and MG arriving there and what time and believe me I have looked endlessly. It was something I read early on but now I can’t find it, so I do not claim it as fact. But I do think it is probable considering the actions of CS and MG throughout, and the contempt of court order sent to Crystal a few days before this.

Media was waiting on Crystal’s arrival. She was called before 4 AM, it is an hour and a half drive. NO reason for her not to have been there by 6 or 6:30.

How was the custody arrangement and visitation drawn up? When it was Crystal’s weekend for visitation who picked the kids up or did Ron take them to a designated place for Crystal to pick them up? I do not buy the fact that Crystal or Marie did not know where Ron lived or the location. JS was there so they could have got directions from him.

Ron took the kids to meet Crystal at the McDonalds off of hwy 17 in downtown Palatka. That is what was reported in the media interviews.

Robin there is some “inconsistencies” with that entire thing. Marie said she didn’t know where Ron lived, but they were able to send JS there. Then Crystal said she had never been in the MH, but Marie said that Crystal had been in the MH and Marie went on to describe the sleeping arrangements.

Lookingforjustice–Thanks.

Chakara, I heard that report also and then there was another report after Haleighs disappearance that Hank and Ronald went searching for WBG together.

WhyLie said,in June 29th, 2010 at 9:06 am Do you think that Ron and his family would have pressured Misty to work with TM and take all those tests if they knew she would fail them because she knew that Haleigh was not really abducted but was not returned from a visit?

If that was the case they all would have slid out of the limelight, not talked to the press, not hired an attorney to help get Haleigh’s name back out there, not worked with TM again, and not talked with LE. The families would have just faded into the wood work and let the case go cold.
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Well,imo they would tell her to cooperate if she really was asleep and didn’t know,It would help them pull their story off!
Misty was just in the right place they needed her to be in,drugged up,tired,and just got back with the family mad at her,even AS said she didn’t like it that ron let her come back!

Misty said in the jail tape,I was doing all this stuff and saying what they wanted me too,and now I know he used me for a babysitter? jmo and I as usual,think ron was the man in black! jmo

m2c said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 11:07 am

Oh, yeah, Tobias, makes a lot of sense for MG and CS to have driven all the way to the area of Haleigh’s disappearance and sit in a nearly deserted police station while everyone else is out looking for Haleigh and no one know about it until you imagined it and suggested it here.
Sure. (Not)
CS and MG would have been on the news whining and crying about waiting anxiously at the police station. Gee whiz. Talk about dreaming up stuff. Anything to deflect from the G/S’s it seems.

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First I am going to input my standard:

I have yet to hear of one decent ADULT human being related to Haleigh, poor baby!

Also I have not seen anyone here trying to “deflect” from the G/S’s but sure do seem to a lot here lately trying to deflect from the Cumming/Neves/Sykes and trying very hard to trash the Sheffield/Griffis.

LFJ – I remember something about that also was that on the same weekend?

LadySadie said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 11:51 am

Response to: mlee said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 7:57 am

Where are you getting your “information” that Haleigh was absent from school on Mon., in school on tue & wed the absent on Thurs. the 5th. Who told you that Crystal had the kids?

Before we can judge for ourselves whether any of this you are saying has any truth to it we would have to see verification of what you are “telling” us, for all we know you could be another of the bloggers that tried to get in so “tight” with Kim P and are now disgruntled.

Sorry, but I don’t just “buy” stories put out by bloggers that say “I was told”. Would like to see the documentation of the “told
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Haleigh wasn’t absent from school on that Monday and Crystal didn’t have the kids the weekend before she went missing.

I will see if I can find the attendance record from school again.

Vaq, that was my understanding also, LOL. Just trying to find out where “mlee” is getting her “stories” and why she is trying to sell them at a place where so many people have already done the research to prove what he/she is selling is false.

defended Misty,he and TN did,right off the bat,tells misty to look in the cam,tells her about DB What innocent father does this? Not one I ever met,till i met Ron……….jmo

LFJ- thanks, I wonder when Ron found out she was with WBG that weekend, before she came home? per the condom request or after

even his first interviews,N’G questions him and he says stull like,Hmmm I was unaware of that? or Oh I didn’t ask her? and Oh well,what i hear isn’t what she tells me Miss Nnacy,I wuz at “werk” gimme a break!!!!!!!!!!!
WTH duz that!

right Lady,lol just letting ya know my part,can’t speak for the others,lol

especially a babysitter for 4 months,she’d be the first I’d have shook!

Lady,lol I gotcha,some wait for minor err’s to jump on,but jr imo it goes without saying,he’s a victim just like his sissy and i do not even think of him when i say her family,jmo

Agee completly CathyJo- I suspect everyone , but when you look at Rons actions after the fact , they absolutly point toward him having complete knowledge of the event, their is just to many things that a completly innocent father wouldn’t do

looking for Justice said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 11:32 am

WhyLie it does not mean they did not stop at PCSO first and then needed to ask for exact directions for Rons home. jmo
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I am sure they got directions from Johnny before they even left. Why go to PCSO when most of PCSO was at 202 green Lane.Plus there was a police presence at the turn off entrance to Ron’s.Remember he had lived in that neighborhood before moving to Green Lane, he only move a few streets over.

LadySadie- I agree , I have wondered myself about that

Exactly Chakra,if he were not Haleighs dad i’d consider him an idiot like i do the others but thats her FATHER!

CathyJo63 said,in June 29th, 2010 at 12:38 pm especially a babysitter for 4 months,she’d be the first I’d have shook!
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I’d shook her all night long myself…
and crystal said on NG ron had pills laying around but she had never been to the MH?
How would she know then?

rofl Thank God you’re still living OJ,lol j/k but exactly,she was never told these things OJ,lol

CathyJo- and if Ron didn’t know anything wouldn’t he want Cobra or Donna to find out whatever they could ??? not warn and shut Misty up

Haleighs attendance record.
Sept: 2th unexcused, 15th excused, 17th& 18th excused.
October: 3rd unexcused, 15th unexcused, 27th Tardy,29th unexcused, 30th Tardy, 31st unexcused.
November: 5th excused, 7th unexcused,10th unexcused, 12th unexcused, 13th and 14th excused, 17th Tardy, 19th unexcused, 20th unexcused, 24th Tardy
December:1st Tardy, 5th Tardy,17th excused,18th Tardy

thats my whole point Chakra,maybe i need a refill on my stupidy pills? lol 😈

Janurary: 7th unexcused,12th excused, 22nd unexcused
Feb. 2nd unexcused, 5th unexcused 9th Tardy. It is hard to make out on this day. The 10th on she has unexcused absences exceot for the mistake on the 24th. I do not believe these should be unexcused since she was a missing child from the 10th on.

CathyJo – LOL , your Little devil is cute LOL

WhyLie it was Chelsea that said she knew for a fact their were pills lying around that mh on the NG show.

Why in the world would there be so many unexcused absences and why was she tardy so many times?
Geez

Nobody in bloggerland knows for sure what happened.

Nobody.

Too many holes in the evidence parade that we aren’t privy too.

Its all conjecture on our parts.

Some peoples personal experiences give them a ‘side’ they feel close too for one reason or another.

Some like ron for the issue, some like misty, crystal, tommy, or joe.

Who knows what really happened? The perp or perps. And they aint tellin very much if anything at all.

The only sure things, imo, are the prison sentences for drugs.

Hope we hear more on Haleigh soon.

LFJ- yes, I remeber chelsea saying that also

o lord,no clue whylie,lol

I’m blind in one eye and can’t see outta the other one! LoL 🙄

I will go and search.

CJ, I do not believe that Misty was involved. I believe she was sleeping and does not know what happened. I pray I am right because I would hate to think of Misty hurting Haleigh when all Haleigh did was love Misty. I would hate to think that Misty would put all of these family members, including her own, through this he77 after they opened their homes and their family to her.

Thats why i believe Ron knows!!!!! and always has! she is protecting him!

All we need is a confession, a reliable witness, some forensic evidence and we’ll know.

Now that’s a ‘dream’

🙂

right Whylie,in my biggest theory she was asleep,rons precence woke her? but not the only theory i have so,lol

Thank You Chakra,Why would they not suspect her too,have they heard of cindy and george,the only other 2 ppl on earth,mars or pluto who believed casey! jmo

jaba said,in June 29th, 2010 at 1:07 pm All we need is a confession, a reliable witness, some forensic evidence and we’ll know.

Now that’s a ‘dream’

Yep, a good dream after a nightmare!!!!

got me?? lol

yep, exactly CathyJo, if Ron and TN knew nothing they would be hunting down Misty for what she knew not extending open arms and defending her at all costs

because he defended her from day one,lol 😉
without knowing what we thought yet! lol sorta,gosh OJ,Just take CathyJoish classes for God’s sake! LoL 😉

never suspected her…
stranger abduction, but if tommy or js was involved I wouldn’t be surprized

Sorry caps,lol
well ok then OJJJJJJJJJJ When Mizz Nancy told us she was looking suspicious?????????
OK,ROFLMAO@U 😉

me too Cat !!!!

Robin -ita that both sides of Haleigh’s family should be under the watchful eye of LE. IMO, I think LE & the media went off track when they went after Lisa & Hank SR. They don’t seem to have gotten back on track and focused but then I don’t know what they (LE) know!

CathyJo63 said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 1:06 pm

Thats why i believe Ron knows!!!!! and always has! she is protecting him!
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Ron knows what? He was at work and was there his whole shift and I’ve posted many articles relaying that fact and the police have said more than once that neither him nor Crystal are suspects. I don’t know how it could be any clearer than what PCSO has said..

Misty is covering for her brother. I’ve never believed Misty harmed Haleigh but she is covering for her brother and that makes her just as sick as Tommy.

Not if the confessionsare ala Joran!

Right Alex,I agree…..why a fake search??

I’ll rest my case Vaq if you show me proof he was at work?????? has le shown you this?
even if he was i still have doubts but none of know for sure where ron was! jmo

But Misty ISN’T innocent of selling drugs… that is what is going to make her go down….

sad, but true…

HOPEFULLY, she has begin to turn her life around in jail… GED, learning to read better, and maybe even some religion thrown in….

vaquera said,in June 29th, 2010 at 1:22 pm

Misty is covering for her brother. I’ve never believed Misty harmed Haleigh but she is covering for her brother and that makes her just as sick as Tommy.
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misty said as early as the hypnosis tape to look at tommy..that is not covering up imvho

WhyLie,exactly,thats why he put the fear of God in her!!!!!!!!!! jmo

whylie,its getting hard to trust any of them!

Vaq,Ron also said he didn’t use drugs,lol
He says ALOT!jmo

WhyLie said,in June 29th, 2010 at 1:29 pm Cobra said a lot of things that turned out not be quite the truth.
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and he plead GUILTY after he swore he was innocent and the truth would come out LOL

I think, from what I’ve seen, that no one is showing proof that ron left WERK that night.

That’s my big hangup on thinking he’s a MIB or anything else.

I believe he knows who COULD have taken her and maybe knows something from misty about that night by now that we don’t know. I think LE knows that too.

Imo, he married her to keep her around to 1. Try and find out if she was invlovled and 2. As his young girl bride who likes the drugs he takes and sells and the lifestyle he lives. She didn’t have anything else going in the right direction for her before ron and certainly not after.

Imo

OJ’s glove said,in June 29th, 2010 at 1:28 pm vaquera said,in June 29th, 2010 at 1:22 pm

Misty is covering for her brother. I’ve never believed Misty harmed Haleigh but she is covering for her brother and that makes her just as sick as Tommy.
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very true OJ , good point

Exactly CJ, that is why I think things deep to see if it makes sense or not. Ron and his family had no reason to take and hide Haleigh. There was no evidence that Haleigh died in the MH. Misty only had a handful of people who she could call on to help her if something had happened that night. Tommy placed himself at the MH earlier in the day, giving him opportunity to unlock the door, and later that night, when he said all the lights were off, just as Misty had said. Tommy prowls the neighborhood at night, per the neighbors. Tommy is a very likely suspect, imo. Now the why behind it could be he was paid by somebody to get the children out of the home for them, but could only get Haleigh, he is a pedophile and wanted Haleigh, or he took her to trade back to Ron for drugs or money but Ron “told” and he couldn’t bring her back. I pray it is the first one.

It is in my opinion that Misty was not leaving Satsuma. Ron and Misty did not marry until 32days after Haleigh disappeared. It was not Ron marrying Misty that kept her in Satsuma. If Misty would have really wanted to leave she would of been long gone well before 32 days later. We heard nothing of them marrying until after Geraldos interview.jmo

CathyJo63 said,in June 29th, 2010 at 1:34 pm he pled guilty OJ???
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yep, thats why he can’t get involved with the case or work in putnam county..I think it was putnam..and I guess hes having issues with his PI license according to sundays show.

lOOKING RIGHT!
tHEY HAD DRUGS TO KEEP THEM CLOSE…JMO DIDN’T NEED A WEDDING!

Lord,you’d think he’d know better,I ain’t pleading guilty to nuffin,lol less i did it!

Ron and Misty had done left and went two hours away to get that tattoo on Rons leg. I am sure they had plenty to discuss on that long ride. The Geraldo interview was after the tattoo incident.

If anything i think Ron called tommy to place him there,knowing he needed a witness??
He didn’t even like Tommy,why would he call him to see where Misty was?? jmo

Misty did say that Timmy was Rons favorite. The van was at Timmy and Chelseas that night.jmo

Marrying, traveling from Satsuma, Florida to New York City for a honeymoon and to appear on national television. This is all going on at the same time that the Putnam County Sheriff’s office is moved on to a new area to continue their search for Ron Cummings’ daughter Haleigh. Captain Dick Schauland reported that about 100 officers have been combing a wooded around the Cummings’ home.

Crazy! jmo

New article up by Simon regarding Cobra:

“So what changed today? Cobra got his life back! He has his license reinstated, he can resume his life. “

It was on August 17th, 2009. That was the only time I read LE came out and stated that.I still believe that LE released that info to get those close to Haleigh to let their guard down.
In the last two PCSO reports it mentioned foul play and that that Misty or Ron or both may know the person who took Haleigh.

have Misty for their mommy,wth says that! CS ain’t much i agree but what a time to say that! jmo

lfj, well if that is the case, Ron sure did let his guard down, got more brazen in his drug dealing.

exactly WhyLie,to givem just enough rope! jmo

you and me Tobias,Knowing cs could be innocent but this mother is feeling enough guilt and then to even suggest a babysitter for 4 months is her MOMMY!!! lowdown!!!!

Yes! he did LadieSadie. I know the S/G have not been in the media as much as the Cummings/Croslins but then again they are not out putting themselves on display!! jmo

Jaba,even after the le knew they still asked what took him so long to get home,he told cobra that in transcripts! jmo

Fox Orlando
In a news release marking the child’s sixth birthday on Monday, investigators said the child’s biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, were not suspects.

WESH news
Greenwood said the missing girl’s biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered suspects in the case, but Cummings’ current wife, Misty Croslin-Cummings, has not been cleared.

Jaba,Thats why he was so sure he’d pulled off the perfect crime,watch his honeymoon today show video at the end,he is smirking like hello!!!!!
He doesn’t even look at the cam himself to plea for Haleigh,why? Because he knew where the person was who took her,jmo but tooo obvious!His mugshot smirks,I can see right thru him! now!!!! jmo

So Jaba,you think ron couldn’t pull it off but Misty could,huh? confused here,lol really!

Looking,i wonder too about why ron didn’t call tn or as? before calling tommy?

WHY WOULD HE NEED TO CHANGE CLOTHES jABA,hALEIGH RODE HOME IN HIS LAP?? JMO

Haleighs birthday is August 16th. That press release was on the 17th. It was the only one LE put out stating that to my knowledge. I wonder too CathyJo? Call the people you trust most.Right?

right Looking,exactly,why would tommy help him or tell the truth,lol

theres a reason he told she rode in his lap?? then he changed that! jmo

I still hold to the theory that something happened to Haleigh before Ron went to work. More than likely an accident but Ron refused to let her be taken to a hospital because he already had enough problems with DCF.

Misty was three feet from Haleigh, so yeah, I think she could have done something to her or knows who did, imo.

I do think rons thinks he knows what happenend by the time he goes on with his slimy ‘ronsmirk’ on tv.

Who knows? I wish I did.

LOL, Cricket, we type “werk” because in on the 911 call and on every interview that is how Ron pronounces it. He says over and over “I was at ‘werk'”

well,ron could pull it off,or so he thought Jaba,If Misty could theres no doubt he could…..just sayin and still jmo

hewked on fonix werked fur me! I talk hillbilly as hello myself,ask Treece,she’ll tell ya,she laughs constantly,lol

but i ain’t a ahamed of it,actually proud,I know a language many don’t,lol

We are just making fun of how Ron pronounces it, and how he says “he was just ‘werking’ to make a honest living”, like he would even know what honest was if it jumped up and bit him in the a$$.

Lady,Like his first job wasn’t honest?? rofl

YEAH!! Tobias! I hope she tells what she knows.

Ron wore Dark navy blue coveralls to werk. It was reported when LE took their clothes, all of their clothes even boxers and undies.lol Hope he had on a clean pair. jmo

ty Tobias,why am i not shocked? hm so he had that on when Haleigh rode home in his lap??

but another version he went in and checked the door? jmo

Darl navy blue could be mistaken as black to a very sleepy 3 year old in the wee hours of the morning, especially if there was no lighting too see very well. Turning all the lights off strikes me odd as well. They testify that Haleigh was afraid of the dark and that Jr. sometimes gets up and roams around the house. It seems some kind of lighting would be left on for the children.jmo

Yep, it sure ‘looked’ like an abduction by the time police were called.

Misty had at 30 min before she called 911 from the time she woke up, so she says.

She could walk 2 miles in that time at a reasonable pace. What did she do for 25 minutes or so to make it look like it did. Imo

Jaba,hmmm I am guessing calling ron who wouldn’t answer but had called her a thousand times??? jmo

Dunno if i believe it but even Misty said,she called him to see if maybe he’d cane home but no answer?

So Jaba,you believe Misty is all at fault right,am i wrong?? or what?
Just you seem to think Misty is smarter to pull it off but ron can’t?? you are losing me!! lol

perhaps thats the story ron made her tell? hmmm lol

I think misty left the mh and then something happened.

I don’t believe she was sleeping through anything.

Anybody in the satsuma area COULD have done it.

I just want to see more proof he left wErk. Maybe LE does have that and they know ronnie went somewhere and figure he’s guilty but can’t find the forensics to prove it.

Maybe that’s why the d/a isn’t even talking to ron about a plea deal on his d/c’s.

I don’t think he left wErk either jaba, but that is because I think he needed the solid alibi, because something happened to Haleigh before he went to wErk.

if misty told ron she was pregnant before her weekend binge, why did she ask nay nay for a condom when she was planning on going back to ron’s?

Cricket if DCFS is like CPS, no everything is confidentential unless it goes to a criminal trial!

m2c, you probably aren’t here anymore but if the scenario is correct (and I’m not saying that it is, just laying it out), Ron couldn’t just call LE and have them get HaLeigh back for him because LE was being bribed by JS.

ooops, I didn’t mean bribed, I meant blackmailed by JS; he was threatening to let loose all the dirt on PCSO is what I’ve read. (And yes, that most clearly and definitely is rumor.)

Didn’t Ron kick Misty out that weekend ?
Misty was doing what most teens on drugs do.
so why does Ron,GMMS,and GMT get a free pass to be pissed about Misty .

IF we had ALL phone records it would give us a better idea of a few things.

Wonder if Lindsy and Hank are divorced yet, the resolution hearing was for 1:30pm today.

ewwwww on the sloppy seconds comment. thanks for the warning!

And geez, if I could read and type at the same I might get something right, LOL. Case management conference for Lindsy and Tommy divorce is today not resolution hearing.

LadySadie said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 2:58 pm

Wonder if Lindsy and Hank are divorced yet, the resolution hearing was for 1:30pm today.
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LadySadie said,in June 29th, 2010 at 2:47 pm amys said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 2:45 pm

if misty told ron she was pregnant before her weekend binge, why did she ask nay nay for a condom when she was planning on going back to ron’s?

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Warning! Gonna be gross here! Because Ron told her to because he didn’t want “sloppy seconds”.
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LadySadie LOL couldn’t of said it better myself LOL

tobias said,in June 29th, 2010 at 3:06 pm That weekend doesnt sound right to me, knowing what we know now I would say it was a drug run,either to buy or sell. I doubt NayNay would tell the truth about what they were really doing.jmo
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Agree , we can’t really think NayNay would be a reliable witness, and trust what she says

WK is JS’s mom or no Tobias,I get confused,lol

Are you talking about Ruby K. she is Connies mom I am pretty sure. I still think Misty, NayNay and WBG were really on a drug run, they had to get their Coke from somewhere, we know they had plenty of people with pills but the Mexicans had coke. NayNay and WBG even stated that. Coke enough to share which makes me think they were dealing and not migrant workers like some want to believe. jmo

yes i meant sorry,was on phone with dtr too,lol

it is funny Tobias and especially when TN said they were up all night talking that one night? hth would she know other than chit chat but its the way she said it,like it was a huge thing! jmo

Cathy, Like ron is gonna tell her Misty went on a drug run for him and now she is back.loljmo

right,lol exactly!!

he still has tn convinced he got the witch in a cell and is going to prison himself for Haleigh,sheeeeeeeeeeesh

CathyJo63 said,in June 29th, 2010 at 2:31 pm Jaba,hmmm I am guessing calling ron who wouldn’t answer but had called her a thousand times??? jmo
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Gee whiz Jaba,have you ever heard of a figure of speech?
Like i believe he called 1000!

As previously released, it is very unlikely that Haleigh’s disappearance is the work of a stranger. Evidence and information obtained during this investigation indicate a strong likelihood that Haleigh’s disappearance is the result of foul play by someone known to Misty Croslin and/or Ronald Cummings. There is no specific individual whom investigators have identified as a person of interest. Investigators still believe that Misty Croslin holds important answers in this case. She still refuses to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evening activities. Investigators ask that anyone with direct knowledge of Misty’s activities during that evening of February 9, 2009, or into the early morning of February 10, 2009, is encouraged to report that information to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. Information may be submitted by calling Northeast Crime Stoppers at (888) 277-TIPS (8477), or e-mailing the information to haleigh@putnamsheriff.org.

http://www.pcso.us/2010-2-9-a

if you have a bone with me get it out but don’t badger me over a figure of speech?

really Alex?????? I didn’t know that!

oh is she,rofl i dunno,I am blind as a bat Alex,thought you were telling me,lol

No, I’m asking if she is! If she is the Kelly that was with the 5, shouldn’t she have been taken into custody too!

hmmm who was the girl who was in the car when Misty left her purse after they were arrested?

you’d think so Alex!

I’m talking about the undercover sting, there was a minor during one of the drug deals and her name was kelly! She should be as guilty as any of the rest of them because surely LE didn’t use her as CI!

Well he did something with Haleigh if he’s guilty. I don’t think ron could have stashed her in a safehouse all this time.

No one is picking at you. If you think that then I’ll stop responding to your posts. Its not worth the aggravation of explaining my self about that. We are here to discuss. If you don’t like the way I write, then you and I can bypass each other. No disrespect intended to you, at all.

When you ‘welcome’ and ‘attack’ in a post I think you set yourself up to read more into anothers writings to you the wrong way. Imo of course. I don’t know.

No Jaba,you sit and wait for someone to make a mistake,especially when they don’t agree with your opinion,and you pick over little things if thats all they give,but ty,now you won’t consider me rude when i avoid you!

if thats aggravation,then I will steer clear!
thought it was a discussion about Haleigh!

Its not just my time but I appreciate you thinking it over.

Refresh for a lot of us goes way up on these articles becasue they are so popular. Just trying to bring those down if we can. It may be futile with how we all participate passionatley.

CathyJo63 said,in June 28th, 2010 at 5:05 pm I wonder if its true that Haleighs hair was found in the yellow rope?
I DO NOT KNOW BUT I READ IT,SO I AM ONLY ASKING?

jaba said,in June 28th, 2010 at 5:08 pm Who’s the source for HC’s hair on rope?

CathyJo63 said,in June 28th, 2010 at 5:15 pm SEE JABA,

i Am askeert to even ask a question anymore,lol

CathyJo63 said,in June 28th, 2010 at 5:05 pm I wonder if its true that Haleighs hair was found in the yellow rope? I DO NOT KNOW BUT I READ IT,SO I AM ONLY ASKING?

jaba said,in June 28th, 2010 at 5:18 pm And my question was what was the source? Read it where to be more specific, I guess?

CathyJo63 said,in June 28th, 2010 at 5:20 pm to be more specific that link,lol
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See what I mean Jaba,you do this constantly to me!
Though i asked a ? and capped that i only read it……did not say a source as fact!

You did it obviously hounding me about me bringing Misty home with me,what were the pans,come on girl!

plan’s’

not pans!

You are right. Here for Haleigh, not worrying about others misreading the intent of your written word when posing a question or comment about what they have brought up.

I try and think before I type and send what the person could have meant a bunch of different ways and respond to what I think they mean with an optimistic view that all they were doing is participating in the conversation.

I also think I can read between the lines, so, all in all, I just don’t take anything other than personal attacks, than just thoughts typed by a fellow blogger who I may or may not agree with on the facts.

We do digress from Haleigh talk quite a bit here when we want or need a good laugh, so its also about the bloggers here. We just need, imo, to not be so sensitive unless its a direct attack on who you are as a person. Jmo

right Shock,Just like all of them were,they never had a chance,neither did Haleigh and Jr! jmo

We have no way of knowing if the underage Kelly was arrested or not. As a juvenile her records would be sealed and not subject to the Sunshine Laws.

yes Lady,right!!

Jaba said,
but I figured you knew it would take more than a confidence in yourself to be able too.
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You are just plain rude Jaba,I will tell ya something,do you think if i was going to do it,I would actually tell the ww w my plans when everyones out to get her anyway,do you really believe I’d give all that info but i was trying to be nice and you kept badgering me!!!!!!!!!!

Its a moot point however, misty has a limo waiting for her post trial. 🙂

Just droppin in. No time to read every post, but noticed someone said they would take a child away from a bad situation and hide them, then take their chances, but if caught, serve the consequences…WHAT?
Seriously, this is not rational thinking. It is a felony crime. You can’t just go ‘take’ someone’s kid and hide them away. Scary…

Anyway, M2C, I agree, it would be MG, possibly JS and Chad, that were behind it. They don’t give a crap what happens to anyone in this whole thing. I’m sure they all do a lot of the thinking for CS…she is brain dead in my opinion.

JenM said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

CS…she is brain dead in my opinion.

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Agreed, how else can you explain why she was with Ronbo?

Right Jen,and lets be honest,they didn’t protect her when they had her the way it looks now!So I doubt they’d stretch that far! jmo

I don’t believe that S/G had anything to do with this. I don’t see them all that interested in the children… especially their own, and NOT to the extreme of pulling this off.

I know NayNay has issues, but if I had to believe in anything that has transpired, it would be what NayNay/WBG has said. Dope heads or not, what the hell would be their need to lie. They’ve admitted what they were up to, WBG’s mother corroborated the “chance” meeting of her son/Misty.

True too Lady,jmo

So Jaba,imo….I passed the first test,to protect her? Did I not? it’s more than her own did!

cent, I agree. I don’t see the S/G’s that interested in the children either. My theory is based partly on motives like their interest in money and getting R in trouble so they’d get Jr and revenge.

As far as “protecting” the children, I’m not sure what is meant. Protect them from being around drugs? Both families and both parents were drug users. Same with the Croslins. It’s their way of life. And it is for a lot of families.
Chloe and Jr are still in an environment that is like that. Although Chad’s out of the picture now I think.

jaba I don’t think there is much any one or all of us strangers can do to help Haleigh – except keep the pressure on LE and not accept anything but proof. As to helping Chloe and Jr, all we can do is pressure DCFS to keep a close watch on them so they know we’re watching and if anything happens to the kids there will be heck to pay.

Otherwise we stand a better chance to help kids thru programs and organizations in our own communities. There are LOTS of things that can be done according to each person’s abilities and interests.

Sometimes i blame the system,imo if cs wanted them she would have cleaned up her acts yrs ago,but didn’t!
But only because Haleigh was taken now suddenly everyone forced her to keep jr basically,so how is that good for any one of them?
jmo.I never heard her say or show any proof she wanted him?? It was just thrown on her lap…….jmo

m2c said,in June 29th, 2010 at 5:17 pm As far as “protecting” the children, I’m not sure what is meant. Protect them from being around drugs? Both families and both parents were drug users. Same with the Croslins. It’s their way of life. And it is for a lot of families.
Chloe and Jr are still in an environment that is like that. Although Chad’s out of the picture now I think.
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Agree completly, wasn’t Chad also a step brother? so they break up but still have to see each other at family functions , awkward….LOL

right M2,OMG but they’re not blood siblings but imo that could still be a hairy situation,lol

and to be honest,I’d have more respect for Crystal if she said she didn’t than to keep him and not want too and atleast it would be honest and better for Jr! jmo

agree CathyJo , I think they all have children and don’t change their lives to take responsibility for them

How old were Crystal and Chad when their parents got together?

o lordy Cate,no idea,lol

lol LadySadie!! (although there is gpa JS & Connie, too, and probably Chad’s mom and her new man so she still has more than the biological allotment)

LadySadie – ROFLMBO Too funny LOL

LOL Lady..GOOD ONE,LOL

Given the ages of the kids and all the rest of the drama, and Crystal living with TN…. Crystal and Chad were not under the same roof!

If Chad and Crystal have split and since they lived on Griffis property together, how did they work that, just add another trailer on the property for the other one? Doesn’t seem like either of them were willing to take care of themselves, just lived off whatever handouts their parents tossed their way.

OMG,talk about a feud! never thought of that!
Lady,wow!
Squatters rights,lol??
I know mg said,I know where Chad was at,he lives 500 ft in front of me” lol so o boyyyyyyy

Don’t go out of your way to be nice to me,rofl j/k could not resist!

They’re all about as useful as a one legged man in an arse kicking contest,jmo tho,lol

lol Me

Me, they’re more screwed up than the kids on different strokes……jeeez

Beautiful*Adams (cent) said,in June 29th, 2010 at 5:01 pm I don’t believe that S/G had anything to do with this. I don’t see them all that interested in the children… especially their own, and NOT to the extreme of pulling this off.
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I think the Sheffields/Griffis possibly had something to do with this, but not because they were “interested” in Haleigh, rather, because they were interested in money.

And I’d really like to know where Chad Reynolds is???? How did they write him off as a suspect so quickly when this fits right in with his modus operandi.

Maybe this is where CathyJo read about HaLeigh’s hair in the yellow rope. Just another speculation.

**yellow Rope** with HaLeigh’s HAIR in it most likely is what was found in the River along with the 2 cinder blocks.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=507681472&blogId=532783550

The Sheffield/Griffis had LOTS of motivation to do something like this… money, revenge, keep Crystal away from Ronbo… did JS have a grudge against PCSO regarding his reassignment to a desk job? In that case, throw in PCSO grudge…

Yes, the Chad Reynolds possible connection is really interesting. Has anyone connected Chad Reynolds to Ronbo or TomMe or Timmy or…? Similar ages, could have been in each others’ “social networks.”

Was there another body found today down in the Satsuma area? They found a body on Saturday/yesterday, was that of an african american male.

Whoever got Haleigh, IMOO it is a lady who is in her late 20’s to early/middle 30’s and has children, children that Haleigh is familiar around.

huh LadyDay,what makes you think so,not being rude,lol just very curious about your comment of someone in their 20’s??

CathyJo63 said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 6:26 pm

It sure is weird about Chad R!!Somebody earlier today,may have been Alex but they said a body was found this morning so who knows,anybody know who it was? or if le knows who it is yet? jmo
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Body Found in Wooded Area in Putnam County Identified as Zenovia King
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=157937&catid=3

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=742210&IMG=53683

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=749274&IMG=53683

Lday, who does that put in the ‘suspect pool’?

Cate aka Kate, I think what you said is what is so very confusing and convoluted in this case…….. it appears all had culpability, a life style that put a rat in the mailbox, internal family feuds with restraining orders back and forth, and assumed all of that was normal. To kill a child tho, I can’t imagine anyone on the Cummings/Croslin side to have that type of anger or hatred. I do believe their life style does and has destroyed the ability to be a healthy functioning member of society, but to kill precious HaLeigh, unless they were doing a whole lot more heavy drugs other than hydrocodones, and truly using oxy or heroin, I just cant see them doing such an insidious act of taking a little girl’s life. This all is over my head, or comprehension.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the Haleigh case, I just made a comment this morning that when I went to read the St. Augustine Record this morning I almost had a heart attack because that was the first Headline I saw – Body found in Satsuma Identified -. Then CathyJo just asked if the person had been identified. Just answering her question.

Again it has absolutely nothing to do with Haleigh, just a little side chat.

LadySadie said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

It has absolutely nothing to do with the Haleigh case, I just made a comment this morning that when I went to read the St. Augustine Record this morning I almost had a heart attack because that was the first Headline I saw – Body found in Satsuma Identified -. Then CathyJo just asked if the person had been identified. Just answering her question.

Again it has absolutely nothing to do with Haleigh, just a little side chat.
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That we know of so far!

Lillymae said,in June 29th, 2010 at 6:48 pm LadySadie said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

It has absolutely nothing to do with the Haleigh case, I just made a comment this morning that when I went to read the St. Augustine Record this morning I almost had a heart attack because that was the first Headline I saw – Body found in Satsuma Identified -. Then CathyJo just asked if the person had been identified. Just answering her question.

Again it has absolutely nothing to do with Haleigh, just a little side chat.
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That we know of so far!
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maybe he dated lyndsy?

Lillymae said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

LadySadie said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

It has absolutely nothing to do with the Haleigh case, I just made a comment this morning that when I went to read the St. Augustine Record this morning I almost had a heart attack because that was the first Headline I saw – Body found in Satsuma Identified -. Then CathyJo just asked if the person had been identified. Just answering her question.

Again it has absolutely nothing to do with Haleigh, just a little side chat.
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That we know of so far!

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True, but I don’t think that everything that happens in Putnam County has to do with Haleigh.

maybe who dated Lindsy Oj? lol sorry but i am confused!

Not gonna touch that one OJ!

ohhhhhhhh,rofl I see now!!!!!! 😳

LadySadie said

True, but I don’t think that everything that happens in Putnam County has to do with Haleigh
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True, I do not recall saying that. I believe what I said was that we know of so far.

However a lot of what happens in Putnam has to do with drugs and the person (King) whose body they discovered had something to do with drugs. Look at his jail records. Also there may be a connection between King and McLeod, who has a connection to Lookado, a relative of WBG.

Oj, This none of my bussiness and I’m sure you’ll let me no that if you want to, but why do you have such a strong beleif about Misty ?
I agree with what you say about her but I,just
never run across anyone with such strong beleif
about someone on a blog.

Reasonable doubt of what though CathyJo??

What did the guy die from, has it been said?

CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES
Case Status: TRIAL

UCN: 542010CF000145XXAXMX
06/28/2010 43 MOTION TO CONTINUE

UCN: 542010CF000144XXAXMX
06/28/2010 45 MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE

UCN: 542010CF000146XXAXMX
06/28/2010 45 MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE

UCN: 542010CF000253XXAXMX
06/28/2010 45 MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE

UCN: 542010CF000254XXAXMX
06/28/2010 45 MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE

a dead kronk rather?

Date Docket Description
04/28/2010 001.CIVIL COVER SHEET
04/28/2010 002.PETITION FOR DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE
04/30/2010 003.SUMMONS ISSUED TO: HANK CROSLIN
04/30/2010 004.FILING FEE RECEIPT
05/10/2010 005.RTN OF SVC ON HANK CROSLIN SVD 05/03/10 DUE 05/23/10
05/10/2010 DEFAULT AVAIL 05/28/10
05/10/2010 006.RESPONSE TO SUMMONS : HANK CROSLIN
06/02/2010 007.NOTICE OF CASE MGMT CONFERENCE 06/29/10 AT 01:30
06/29/2010 008.FAMILY COURT MINUTES
06/29/2010 009.CASE MGMT ORDER : HEARING 07/20/10 AT 11:00

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php

Hello LifeIsSometimesMiserable,lol j/k
just saw your nic and that rolled off my tongue,lol

as soon as i sat it rather,lol

dang sure did Me!!!! jmo

I don’t like ron one dang bit but if anybody should have got donations he should’ve! jmo

buncha Quacks! jmo

Researching and goggling one will find that there was not 827 square miles within this community where these people reside and congregate. imo

LARRY KING IS RETIRING THIS FALL!!!!

He is going to start going to his son’s ball games…

Larry is like seriously OLD!!!!

Exactly right Me,it’s disgusting!!!!

Iloves,it shocked me bad enough to hear he has an 8 yr old son! jeeeeezus help us all,He looks like a candle burnt at both ends!
His skin is so stretched!

Me,I honestly don’t see how they could do that?? Collecting money and they didn’t raise her!

When did Ron & Crystal split up?

CathyJo63 said,in June 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm Me,I honestly don’t see how they could do that?? Collecting money and they didn’t raise her!
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Yep. I totally agree. Not only did she not raise her, but she refused to support her, and went on to have another child when she couldn’t support the ones she already had.

Cathy Jo

Have you been keeping up with the KYRON HORMAN case? I think the step mother knows more than she is saying. The father has now filed for divorce.

No KyMom,sorry but I haven’t but Its peaking my interest!

This little boy who is school age is missing. His step mother took him to school one morning for a science fair. And she says she left him at school after the fair but no one saw him after the fair. She has now took 2 poly’s and today father files for divorce. So it makes me think she failed the poly’s.

LadySadie, In all honesty, I don’t know who those people are, because it seems so many failed her, whether it was family or CPS or the school district. I am sure I sound silly, but it is important to me to think that many did love her while she was in school, or daycare or the neighborhood….. you know how we all take a child in, the one whose parents are too busy… I pray in her short life she had love, hope and dreams. Her short life is so hard for me to accept, and I admit I do have a lot of anger for the adults (okay only some were adults)that did not put that babies life in front of their own selfish desires or addictions. I am sorry, it breaks my heart, and sometimes so difficult to be objective, because to me the greatest gift from God is our children, and unfortunately some that pray daily for a child, their prayers are never answered. To see such disregard for these children is gut wrenching for me, I’m sorry. And I include TC LC CC Hank jr all in this cycle, that I pray will change.

Ky Mom,

I really don’t get why they even bother with LDTs in the USA anymore…they are so unreliable. What ever happened to conducting investigations and gathering evidence that is ADMISSIBLE in a court of law instead of stuff that isn’t?

Are there any other countries that still use these things other than the USA?

Don’t get me wrong, it the stepmother did it, I want her to face justice. But a LDT gets them nowhere. They need real evidence, not unreliable stuff.

Me,I imagine its a good tool just to weed out some and who to press down on for answers,jmo

CathyJo,

With it’s accuracy being only slightly better than chance, I think it is far more dangerous to use it than not use it. It sends LE in the wrong direction almost half the time. I can’t help but think Jessica Lunsford would still be alive had her grandfather not agreed to take one. Very sad.

Good evening all,

I read this article a while ago and I found it kind of interesting regarding Ronalds neighbor. I found it odd that the dogs kept going to this womans dock on the St. Johns. I looked up Tracy Phillips on Florida Corrections and found a Julie Uphold who used this name and about 8 others as aliases. May be two different people, but still I wonder why the dogs went to her dock.

Article:

Authorities said they searched roughly 100 houses of those who would allow them entry.

Tracy Phillips lives next to Cummings’ mobile home and said officers with police dogs walked the 200 or so yards from Cummings’ home to her dock on the St. Johns three times

She said investigators asked to search her house and went through every room, including closets.

Phillips said she didn’t know Cummings, his girlfriend or children, who had not lived in the neighborhood long.

It seems that something change after RC & MC’s fight and MC’s three day binge.

Was it not reported that MC went and took MC’s clothes to Nay Nay’s mother’s house at some point. And Nay Nay’s mother told RC that MC was in her house asleep. Has that proven to be factual?

And as far as WBG (habitual criminal)I would not trust him in no shape or form. He should have been serving prison time a long time ago (under the prison cement floors).

WBG sends off my hinky meter.

Sorry, should have said Jessica’s grandfather, not father.

Wouldnt it be strange if this King guy they found dead was the one who talked to Ron at the gas station about knowing where Haleigh was? Stranger things have happened. Just a thought. jmo

omg Tobias,wouldn’t it tho?

Well Yea Mary,thats no wild tangent? Its very possible!why would they,and checked her house too??

LadySadie said,in June 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm Jnet, I so agree with all you said. It breaks my heart that Haleigh’s own family (from all sides), put their own wants/addictions/”fun” before the life of a precious child, and have been doing so for several generations. Many, many of us have come for dysfunctional families (and for some of us, myself included severe dysfunction) but found a way to break the cycle, it seems that there was not one member of Haleigh’s family willing to break that cycle and each seemed to be trying to out do the other in making it worse.
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Amen,to everything you said!

So did I CJ when I read it…but that person says they are 31 and lives in Kentucy. Julie Uphold is about 45. The alias name is Tina Alexander. Anyway, it was freaky even if only coincidence.

yea it is Mary! Ky,Js and Connie live in ky!
God only knows whose mixed up in all this?

brb

maryd,

Then on top of that there is that weird phone call between Cobra and Johnny where Johnny says they can’t get him in Kentucky (or words to that effect). I think it’s the same one where he talked about wanting the movie rights.

Has anyone heard anything more about the movie and who is involved? Has anyone checked the trademark register to see if anyone’s tried to trademark her? I know people did it in Caylee’s case, but don’t remember the link

yes ME,TRUE,HE SAID THEY CAN’T TOUCH ME IN KY,ITS A NO BOND STATE?

Well,Me you know whose most likely behind it,I think I do,he wanted to copyright Haleighs name i believe way before now,early on???

and whomever is behind the movie cannot talk about it or they’ll lose their share or some stupid crap,no one will know until we see them move to beverly hills! jmo

it came out just the other day me,to my understanding??? it is happening but no one can say! jmo

Sorry, was trying to find the interview with Tracy Phillips, I’m not very good at finding old interviews. But, interesting how one thing leads to another in this case.

IMO KyMom,it only makes him look guilty?? jmo tho

Only they’d be called PillBillies Me,LoL

Pillbillies.lol

So my internet went out early due to pillbillies stealing copper.lol

YEA IF YOU KNEW,BUT THE POINT HERE IS mISTY TOLD DIFFERENT STORIES AND RON SUPPORTED HER,oops sorry caps,knowing she did and his reply was usually I didn’t ask,or well thats not what she’s telling me,big difference!

when she failed he supported her too,lol Me,see what i mean? jmo

and he only had Misty 4 months and she just got home from a wild weekend so how did he know someone she knew didn’t do it,he didn’t even ask to find out?? jmo

Cathy Jo

You are on a roll tonight. lol
Is there any new news on the Haleigh case?

Feel like going to take the bar exam,oughta be able to gradyiate by the time someone tells a word of truth!then I can toast em,lol

Does anyone know who bailed Joshua Imm and the Tomlinson gal out and when their court hearings will be held. I can’t seem to find these court records.

well,either way me,even without the ld? From day one he went to defending her and telling her to look at the camera and all that garbage,would be enough that I wouldn’t need a ld! jmo

The only way to get a restraining order in Oregon where little Kyron is from.
A restraining order is issued if the petitioner can show he or his child is in “imminent danger of further abuse” by the respondent, and respondent represents a “credible threat to the physical safety of petitioner or petitioner’s child.”

Geeee KyMom,so he got one right? good for him!!

omg i can’t imagine KyMoM!

I’d say theres a reason they put him there! jmo

Joshua Imm was released 6-15-2010 from Putnam County Jail & Amanda Tomlinson was released
6-28-2010. In another matter, James Michael Hoberg, 42, Satsuma,was jailed in Putnam County on 6-29-2010. His charge was molest vic less than 12 YOA and his bond was set at $50,004. Has anyone heard of his name before?

Not I CLong! sorry

The step mother in one video is with KYron’s Mother and father and his step dad. She is so doing the fake crying just like misty.jmo

OJ

I don’t think she did.jmo
Do you believe that Joe and Tommy did something to Haleigh?

LE makes their own laws in that neck of the woods…
I don’t know who did it..stranger abduction is first on my list..then maybe tomme or a friend of js, which would be a stranger to all the families.

Ky Mom

I think someone has to be charged with the crime against Haleigh for the sunshine law to take effect. As of now no one has.

CLong said,in June 29th, 2010 at 11:04 pm Joshua Imm was released 6-15-2010 from Putnam County Jail & Amanda Tomlinson was released
6-28-2010. In another matter, James Michael Hoberg, 42, Satsuma,was jailed in Putnam County on 6-29-2010. His charge was molest vic less than 12 YOA and his bond was set at $50,004. Has anyone heard of his name before?
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Great find! Thanks for that info. I’ve never heard that name, but would like to find out more about him. Is he in the RSO database?

His bond is crazy low compared to Misty & Ron. Crazy stuff. And it seems that if Misty’s dad had been Sherrif, she’d be out now too.

I can’t find James Hoberg in the FDLE sex offenders database. Which probably means LE never checked him out when Haleigh went missing. Do we know where he lived at the time?

maryd. said,in June 29th, 2010 at 11:50 pm Ooops, On second thought I think I’m wrong. In the drug case they have been charged.
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right, big disparity in the release of info..LE releases misty’s calls and visits to HANG her via the media but releases next to nothing of ron’s calls and visits..LE wants their SCAPEGOAT to go down! and they are doing everything legal and ILLEGAL to convict misty!!
Hardy’s son is out prancing free for METH MANUFACTURING and TRAFFICING!!!! while misty rots, for what..a few stinkin pills she was entrapped to be involved with?
PCSO are the CRIMINALS!! misty is NOT!!!!!!!!

Perhaps tomorrow’s paper will have an article about his arrest. He looks quite creepy. The poor child that he has molested….how awful.

I wonder if he knows anything about Haleigh, and I sure hope they’ve asked him about her.

Hmmmmm.

If half the people in this town were doing drugs and half of the people in this town were selling them…than most of the druggies must know most of the dealers. Sounds like a math test huh?

In the Kyron Horman case the police gave
questionnaire to everyone. Why didn’t LE do this in Haleigh case? There might have been someone in the beginning of this that would have wanted to tell something of importance. Who knows. But I do agree that LE has done a very sloppy job. Did they ever finger print the door?

ROFL OJ,I swear to God,Misty would be so proud of ya,lol

They knocked on doors and questioned who answered. So if no one answered did they just pass on it?

KYMom,I just watched the videos,omg that woman stix out like a sore thumb!!!!!!
Did you see her look up to at the other womans face,for an expression I assumed? sheeesh,rubbing her arm.dead give away! jmo(not familiar with their names yet,I do good to remember these crack pots in Haleighs life)

How many men would be attracted to a weigh lifting woman. Unless you like dominatrix maybe. The father was probably afraid of her. JMO

“Live”, not “leave”…lol.

I can’t remember their names either.lol

I know guilty.I think you can tell alot of things about a person through body language.jmo

Isn’t he the cutest little boy. He looked so proud of his science fair project. I think I read the other day about the step mothers story didn’t add up. Something about her cell phone records.

The step was friends with Kyrons mother. Kyrons mother asked for her to check on him and the dad while she went to canada for some kinda of medical problem. Well when she came back her and Kyrons dad filed for divorce and he married the now step mother.

My God in Heaven KyMom,wth is it with people,grr

maryd. said,in June 30th, 2010 at 12:41 am Did who live near Kyle Johns? I’m so confused.
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Thats what I said earlier,I stay confused! lol

I’m watching Nancy Grace right now about Kyron.

Well I guess I’ll get off and go to bed. Maybe the eastern KY pillbilles won’t steal copper tonight and I’ll have internet in the morning.lol

Night everyone!!!!!

maryd. said,in June 30th, 2010 at 12:32 am They knocked on doors and questioned who answered. So if no one answered did they just pass on it?
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Wouldn’t surprise me.

me

I can’t find a video, just read articles. They didn’t give much info about her or her exact address. They said next door to the MH. Than they said the dock was about 200 yards away. From what I saw on the map it didn’t make a lot of sense to me.

If you google Tracy Phillips neighbor Ronald Cummings you’ll see the articles.

According to intellius.com, this James Hoberg lived in Welaka, Satsuma & Crescent City. He was booked at about 1am…..I wonder if he broke into a house that night, or if it was committed at some earlier time and they only caught up with him then. I wonder why it’s not in the paper.

me said,in June 30th, 2010 at 12:53 am maryd. said,in June 30th, 2010 at 12:32 am They knocked on doors and questioned who answered. So if no one answered did they just pass on it?
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Wouldn’t surprise me.
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in my town last week LE was called for a hit and run, they were given a license plate number,
the number was a city councilman’s vehicle..LE went to his house and he would not answer the door, LE waited outsde his house til the morning, when he came out they ticketed him for hit and run..the TAVERN he was at reported to LE he had SEVERAL DRINKS! LE let him sleep it off so he wouldn’t have a dui charge..
how is that law enforcement? They DISGUST ME!!!
and it was in the local paper, he PAID OFF the guy he hit who is now saying “Don’t charge him”
see how the “system” is?
if you have money or political power your justice is fairer then average people’s justice.

or a current LE or ex..probably still has some juice with the dept.

I still don’t understand how Casey Anthony qualifies for a dream team and others have public defenders. Could it be that her high profile case racks in the money? Wouldn’t doubt if she doesn’t get off on some technicality so she’ll be available for a reality show.

maryd. said,in June 30th, 2010 at 1:04 am Someone here said she was interviewed early on in the case on a local TV station. Sorry, I already forgot who said that though. Maybe Whylie. Hope it wasn’t you me…than I’ll really be embarrassed.
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No, it wasn’t me! But I do recall discussion about seeing her on tv. Can’t find the video though, but found an article..thanks.

maryd. said,in June 30th, 2010 at 1:29 am OJ’s glove said, in June 30th, 2010 at 1:17 am

if you have money or political power your justice is fairer then average people’s justice.

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Think that’s becoming more painfully obvious everyday.
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Yep. I can’t imagine Misty would be where she is today if she was from a wealthy family.

This James Hoberg arrest has me very curious. A crackhead child molester (alleged) living close to Haleigh, who was at the time, completely off LE’s radar as a paedophile. I’d really like to know the details of his charges and whether he’s being asked questions about Haleigh.

Good night maryd. Hopefully you’ll wake to good news re Haleigh.

me @ 1:48 You said, “Yep. I can’t imagine Misty would be where she is today if she was from a wealthy family.”
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Of course she’d be exactly where she is – money isn’t the problem. She’s got the same team now as an indigent that she had before and the judge agreed to the experts Bozo wanted. The only difference (IMO) would have been if monster was actually smart (she would not have hired Bozo). But she’s not.

From the Putnam County Sherrif’s office website “News” section…..note the bond amounts….

John Louis Bellamy, DOB: 7/7/1957, was arrested and booked into the Putnam County Jail for the following:
-Possession of a Schedule II narcotic w/ intent to sell w/in 1000’ of a school
-Possession of a Schedule IV narcotic
-Maintaining a drug dwelling
-Violation of Probation
It was also discovered Bellamy had a warrant from Indian County Sheriff’s Office for Failure to Appear which carried a $4,000 bond.
He is currently being detained with a total bond of $8,012.00

Jessica Ashley Barber, DOB: 6/22/1987, was arrested and booked into the Putnam County Jail for the following:
-Possession of a Schedule II narcotic w/ intent to sell w/in 1000’ of a school
-Possession of a Schedule II narcotic; (Oxycodone)
-Possession of a Schedule IV narcotic (12 ½ Xanax pills)
-Possession of Drug Paraphernalia
She is currently being detained with a bond of $5,016.00.

How in the heck did they get away with giving Misty such a high bond?

Good morning, Me! Yep I was mixed up about who you were referring to! I am SO sorry about that! Obviously, the brain is not in gear yet.

And you’re right. M would not be where she is now if she was from a wealthy or influential family.

m2c,

Yep. Methamphetamine is a nasty drug and the labs are incredibly dangerous. The fumes are toxic and potentially deadly. How in the heck do they justify a $1 million bond for a young offender, yet let this guy get out for less than $10k? Not very fair it seems.

I have checked the Jail Log and the Putnam County Criminal Dockets, can find NO new charges for Hank T. (Tommy) Croslin, Jr. *me* where did you get that Tommy had new charges?

HI Lady!!!

Hi, *me* and ilove.

Yes *me*, he had all those charges before, none of those are new.

Thanks everyone. It makes sense that they are the old charges and they just posted them to their site because he was moved back there.

I didn’t realize he was charged with an armed burglary and the 2 grand larceny charges and thought they might be new charges.

Bed time here. Good night all. Fingers crossed Haleigh’s been found safe and sound by the time I wake.

Off Topic: I am praying hard today for Kyron Horman. It is not looking good for him. My prayers go out to his family.

Goodmorning. Stopping in for a moment.

Gosh, seems there was so much opportunity for one of these sex offenders/pedophiles to take Haleigh that night.

It could of got around the drug circle or the neighborhood that Ron was having to do nights, Misty was home alone, and that there was drugs or guns there for the taking.

One of my theories is that Misty let someone in to party that night and they could of unlocked one of the doors, so they could get back in later, while she was sleeping, and take what they wanted.

A pedophile doesn’t seem to be the burglary type, they just prey on their victims and wait for the right opportunity. They sneak in and then sneak out. Commit their crime and hide the body.

Someone looking to rob the place would go to the trouble of setting the back door up with the brick, come in looking for drugs/gun/money (doubt they needed dishsoap like Tommy) and then out of there. They would not be interested in a child at all. However, if Haleigh saw them, they may of taken her to keep her quiet, but I don’t see a burglar as a child murderer, but could happen if the need arose I suppose.

However, if Misty allowed some guys in the MH that night (and that’s what she is lying about) then they could of been some creepy pedophiles too. Misty could of been knocked out. They opened that back door, put the brick in place and was going to take out a few items. Haleigh woke up, so they took her.

This would explain the LDT where Misty says she doesn’t know who took her…She doesn’t know who they are, but she knows who took her in the way that it was guys she let in the house that night (possibly selling drugs out of the MH).

No one may of known where Ron lived, but word may of gotten out that Ron and Misty just got a shipment of pills in for distribution and someone led them to the place (maybe naynay or joe) by yapping their jaws about the information. Tommy who was jonzin so bad for pills that day was over there. Why go and hang out at Misty’s MH all day? I don’t think that if he was that hard up to get those pills, that he would of been at Misty’s hangin out, UNLESS there was what he needed there. (other reason she is hiding info…involves a lot of drugs in the MH)

Just more thoughts. Later all. Have a great discussion.
Find Haleigh.

WhyLie, Good Morning! I’m interested in the various accounts that Wayanne has given aboout the scene in the home. Would you mind filling me in?

Cate, I have heard/read various accounts. One that both Crystal and Misty threw themselves on Haleigh’s mattress sobbing, Misty swearing to Crystal she did not know what happened to Haleigh. Another Misty curled up in Wayannes lap sobbing. You can probably find an interview on AH’s site, and also an audio interview on write into action.

To many people involved in this case and those that have inserted themselves into the case can’t seem to keep their stories straight. A little twist here, a little twist there, an embellishment here, an embellishment there.

I know who Wayanne is, but I have not kept up with anything she has said and I do not even attempt writeinto action. Thanks to m2c she warned me of him along time ago. I saw it on t.v. when TJ was reporting from Satsuma. He is one reporter I will listen to. AH does not have an article on his site pertaining to this info.

Thats insane about Hardys son. 10k? really? omg…oj’s right. set-up! How can they possibly get away with that? Boy when this thing finally blows up, it’s gonna’ be big!! Alot of people in le may find themselves on the receiving end of a massive lawsuit…. WOW!

lfj, I listen to the interviews on WIA. I prefer hearing things coming straight from the horses mouth.

If TJ reported that it was TN that would not give Crystal a stuffed animal/toy then he was mistaken. It was reported that it was Misty that Crystal asked while they were in the MH and I believe that info came from Wayanne.

I will do some digging on it today.

Tobias- Is Chuck the bailbondsman?

m2c- I rather hear it directly from the person, when you read something you don’t get the voice inflection. Once I was on a jury and there was a read back of one of the witnesses and the testimony, imo, lost the passion & fear of the witness.

you are right m2c. I prefer listening to the characters in this saga talk then there is no mistake. There is good reporting on this case. TJ Hart has been the best and he has been the most accurate with info. JMO

Alex, that’s certainly right. What I’m trying to point out – regardless whether it’s audio or print – is (1) is the quote complete? and (2) is the quote in the correct context in which it was spoken?

Here’a an example (audio or video) of #1. Someone asks me if I take drugs. I say, “I take drugs for my allergies.” The reporter only publishes the “I take drugs” part.

Here’s an example of #2. I’m quoted as saying, “I’m in favor of marijuana use.” The actual context of that statement was a full conversation about the medical use of marijuana for appropriate and legitimate illnesses and pain that it’s been proven to be beneficial for. But taken out of the context of that conversation,my comment looks like I’m in favor of it for everyone anytime. You see the difference?

Jacob Ingram from Hastings is he Chuck Ingrams son? He was arrested on a drug charge and not obeying a restraining order( which was for date abuse of Kristen Brooks) is she related to Amber Brooks? Is there any possible connection between all these people? jmo

looking for Justice said,in June 29th, 2010 at 9:40 am I posted an article from the BNN archives a few threads ago. It supported Texasmommys statement that Crystal loves her children and wanted them back. TJ Hart had written in the article that there were a handful of open DCF cases against Ronald by Crystal prior to Haleighs disappearance and that CS was trying to regain custody. I will try and find that article again.
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Crystal does and always has loved her children.
DCF involvement was instigated by the Sheffields for the purpose to legaly change custody. IMO when Misty came into the picture is when the fighting began between all of them. Brooks, Cummings, Sheffield and Croslins.

tobias, it would seem so..JMO

These were prior to Haleighs disappearance.

Texasmommy I agree with your post. It is fact that if DCF is involved with a family and they have children that are m/f they let them know they must have separate bedrooms for them. They will allow it temporarily, but the Parent/s have to find a larger home to live in for that reason. JMO

So lets see PCSO arrests for yesterday and this morning (so far) show the following:

JOHNSON JOSHUA BRAD 7/08/1985 M W 10-02773 6/30/2010 11:40:00 AM
WALKER EDDIE WILLIAM 11/26/1979 M B 10-02772 6/30/2010 10:20:00 AM
FROMAL JOSEPH VINCENT 7/28/1965 M W 10-02771 6/30/2010 7:35:00 AM 6/30/2010 10:33:50 AM
ESSEX JOHN FITZPATRICK 12/13/1970 M W 10-02770 6/30/2010 2:45:00 AM 6/30/2010 7:43:14 AM
HEREDIA CARMEN IVETTE 9/01/1977 F W 10-02768 6/29/2010 6:35:00 PM 6/29/2010 7:47:27 PM
DOWLING JASON LEE 10/18/1978 M W 10-02767 6/29/2010 5:50:00 PM
HILL DEREK LAMAR 2/12/1969 M B 10-02766 6/29/2010 4:00:00 PM
DENSON VIVIAN 4/01/1971 F B 10-02764 6/29/2010 3:10:00 PM 6/29/2010 4:42:08 PM
HINES ALLISON DENISE 12/12/1989 F B 10-02765 6/29/2010 3:10:00 PM 6/29/2010 5:35:27 PM
MACK FRAZIER TYRONE 10/08/1965 M B 10-02762 6/29/2010 1:42:19 PM
WARWICK CLINTON BLANE 8/01/1990 M W 10-02763 6/29/2010 1:10:00 PM 6/29/2010 2:50:05 PM
AUGUITO FRANK LEE 3/13/1957 M W 10-02761 6/29/2010 10:45:00 AM 6/29/2010 11:38:31 AM
WOODLEY LEON P 10/10/1979 M W 10-02760 6/29/2010 7:25:00 AM 6/29/2010 12:55:23 PM
OTERO HILARIO 6/05/1983 M W 10-02759 6/29/2010 2:40:00 AM 6/29/2010 10:53:05 AM
JOHNSON JUSTIN TERRELL 2/10/1989 M B 10-02758 6/29/2010 1:56:00 AM 6/29/2010 7:41:05 AM
HOBERG JAMES MICHAEL 7/22/1967 M W 10-02757 6/29/2010 1:05:00 AM

Of those:

JOHN FITZPATRICK ESSEX
893.13-6b MARIJUANA-POSSESS NOT MORE THAN 20 GRAMS

DEREK LAMAR HILL
843.15-1a FAILURE TO APPEAR
843.15-1a FAILURE TO APPEAR
843.15-1a FAILURE TO APPEAR
794.011-4 SEX ASSLT VICTIM 12 YOA OLDER SPECIAL CONDITIONS
794.011-4 SEX ASSLT VICTIM 12 YOA OLDER SPECIAL CONDITIONS

And

JAMES MICHAEL HOBERG
800.04-5b LEWD LASCV BEHAVIOR MOLEST VIC LESS 12YOA OFFENDER 18 YOA OR OLDER

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I wonder what their connection to Halieh’s case is, sure hope PSCO questioned them all about Haleigh.

It could have been any number of people who called Amber could have and you dont have to tell them who you are when you call, just what you are seeing going on.jmo

m2c said,
in June 30th, 2010 at 5:38 am

Me, I see that the charges against Hardy’s son INCLUDE child neglect and yet with the drugs AND that, the bond amount is a joke – and he makes the kind of drugs that blow up, right? This is a great example of how UN-important children are.
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I think it’s more of an example of the sheriff’s son getting special treatment.

is that typical, that amount of arrests in two days? what a hellhole

Good Morning everyone— yikes, afternoon now, even here. My two cents worth at the moment, Steven K Brown has most definitely has not disappeared wrt to HaLeigh’s case. He’s still on top of it, all over it. Given that, movement soon, perhaps, especially considering that TomMe’s sentencing is right after the other fireworks?

OJ, that is actually fewer than usual for arrests in Putnam. I’ve checked on days where there are 30 or more.

sarcastically said, I thought SKB solved the case months ago.

Alexandria Loring said,in June 30th, 2010 at 10:53 am tm39- What I would like to know is if Crystal reported abuse to DCF as she thought she witnessed it, i.e. when the pictures of Haleigh’s face was taken or only after Haleigh’s disappearance! The timing matters to me.

bbl- dr appt
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If it concerned her she would have had a good enough case when she found Haleigh face down in the canal,Thank God she “guessed how to do CPR and it actually worked!” 🙄 A child almost dies and no 911 call,hmmmmm and what a chance she passed on!
Marie explains what happened that day in a video where even she admits,Crystal said she don’t know how she did it,she don’t remember!!sorry but hang on a sec,while i look for my sarcasm,I know it’s here somewhere.aha there it is… 🙄

TM39 @ noon you asked: M2C do you think it is possible that family would harm/neglect in hidding or kill HaLeigh to distance them selves from the crimes of abduction, fraud, obstruction of justice, illeagal drug use, etc?
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If you are asking do I think it’s possible that the S/G’s kidnapped Haleigh and sent her to live elsewhere then yes. Why not? It’s happened many times before and there is nothing whatsoever redeeming about the S/G clan for me to think they are above that or rule it out for any reason. FGS kids have been hidden in secret rooms, sent to live with other people etc. for less reason(s) than there are in this situation. So, yes, it is certainly possible (not to the exclusion of other possibilities).

m2c said,in June 30th, 2010 at 11:38 am
True,me either!

Did you read the transcript where MG said she knew the kids were being hit bit thats about all,rofl dang!!!! Guess its ok then! lol

sorry misphrased it,LoL Marie said They were being hit but nothing bad?? sheeeeesh okayyyy

Encouragement and prayer is a marvelous thing. It can move mountains. If a part of you thinks that the Griffith’s or the Sheffield’s are holding Haleigh somewhere start asking them to bring the baby home. Ask God to bring the her home. Start asking them to let her have a normal life. Let them know you will not hold a grudge against them.

BRING HALEIGH HOME, WE WON’T THROW STONES! BRING HALEIGH HOME, WE WON’T THROW STONES! BRING HALEIGH HOME, WE WON’T THROW STONES! BRING HALEIGH HOME, WE WON’T THROW STONES! BRING HALEIGH HOME, WE WON’T THROW STONES! BRING HALEIGH HOME, WE WON’T THROW STONES! BRING HALEIGH HOME, WE WON’T THROW STONES! BRING HALEIGH HOME, WE WON’T THROW STONES! BRING HALEIGH HOME, WE WON’T THROW STONES! BRING HALEIGH HOME, WE WON’T THROW STONES! BRING HALEIGH HOME, WE WON’T THROW STONES! BRING HALEIGH HOME, WE WON’T THROW STONES! BRING HALEIGH HOME, WE WON’T THROW STONES!

phone sorry brb

Shockwave said,
in June 30th, 2010 at 12:09 pm

How would you react if you heard on the news that Haleigh was being hidden by her maternal family somewhere, and you saw her alive on television? Would you rejoice? Wold you be in disbelief? Would you be mad at the person’s responsible? Would you understand a family’s love for a child, living the drug life, who just wanted to protect her?

I think I would just be happy she was alive and well, and I would be understanding and in disbelief all at the same time. I would want Haleigh maternal family to not be prosecuted for kidnapping Haleigh.

So, how about it Haleigh’s family. I don’t really think you have Haleigh, but if you do have her please tell us. I for one will understand, and will not hold hard feelings for the concern I’ve felt for Haleigh’s life since she went missing. Just knowing Haleigh was alive would be good enough for me. I think without a doubt, especially now, you would be able to defend your reasons for taking her to a safer place.
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I would want whomever took her and hid her to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and then some.

Look at the damage they have done to innocent ppl,I talked about this before but i gotta tell ya,I did a 180 real quick,If family did it,they should take the punishment they’ve caused Haleighs family to get! imo that would be worse than dealing pills! jmo

Thats a chance of a lifetime she got there TexMom,she failed the test imo because she don’t nor didn’t want custody,she just didn’t want to admit that she didn’t! jmo

Cate,you think he did? I am wondering,lol

she did not fight for custody,it was thrown at her?

exactly,I should have said loved them,I am sure she does but loved the drugs more as addicts can do! She didn’t plan to be an addict!

I am sure my biomum loved me,but just wasn’t enough to give up her liquor!so she gave us up! jmo

Shockwave, please do as your God directs you to. The rest of us will do as our God directs us. If God wants to ask me to do something he knows where I am and how to contact me, he has no need to go through you to communicate with me.

CathyJo63 said,
in June 30th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

she did not fight for custody,it was thrown at her?
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you’re right and it was thrown at her by Marie.

liquor..crying baby
liquor..crying baby
hmmmmmmmmmmmm tough call

Shockwave said,in June 30th, 2010 at 12:09 pm How would you react if you heard on the news that Haleigh was being hidden by her maternal family somewhere, and you saw her alive on television? Would you rejoice? Wold you be in disbelief? Would you be mad at the person’s responsible? Would you understand a family’s love for a child, living the drug life, who just wanted to protect her?

I think I would just be happy she was alive and well, and I would be understanding and in disbelief all at the same time. I would want Haleigh maternal family to not be prosecuted for kidnapping Haleigh.

So, how about it Haleigh’s family. I don’t really think you have Haleigh, but if you do have her please tell us. I for one will understand, and will not hold hard feelings for the concern I’ve felt for Haleigh’s life since she went missing. Just knowing Haleigh was alive would be good enough for me. I think without a doubt, especially now, you would be able to defend your reasons for taking her to a safer place.
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As much as I would love to agree with this opinion … it would not be in the best intrest of the HaLeigh or Jr., JMO, also it would open a unwanted door of other illeagal custody changes that would definatly place many more children at risk and destroy many more lives.

CathyJo, I certainly think SKB has something; only time will ferret out the truth.

CathyJo I understand and respect how you feel. I do not think anyone wakes up oneday and says I am going to become an addict. I do think people with low self esteem, weakness or just want to be accepted by others fall into these groups, especially when they are young and impressionable. The parents did it, to these children this was a normal way of life. I do not agree with or support what they do, but if there is a chance to extend a helping hand then I will.
I guess thats why it took me so long to realize Ronald knew what happened to his daughter. May God Bless them all. Lay the burden upon their chest and open their mouths and finally speak the truth!! Bring Haleigh Home!!! JMO

m2c said,in June 30th, 2010 at 4:31 am me @ 1:48 You said, “Yep. I can’t imagine Misty would be where she is today if she was from a wealthy family.”
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Of course she’d be exactly where she is – money isn’t the problem. She’s got the same team now as an indigent that she had before and the judge agreed to the experts Bozo wanted. The only difference (IMO) would have been if monster was actually smart (she would not have hired Bozo). But she’s not.
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Sorry M2,But i doubt she would,Money is justice,whoever has the most or pull as we say! jmo for a dang good reason!

if that was your post M2,LoL If not just replace the nic,lol
I can’t tell,lol

looking for Justice said,in June 30th, 2010 at 12:48 pm CathyJo I understand and respect how you feel. I do not think anyone wakes up oneday and says I am going to become an addict. I do think people with low self esteem, weakness or just want to be accepted by others fall into these groups, especially when they are young and impressionable. The parents did it, to these children this was a normal way of life. I do not agree with or support what they do, but if there is a chance to extend a helping hand then I will.
I guess thats why it took me so long to realize Ronald knew what happened to his daughter. May God Bless them all. Lay the burden upon their chest and open their mouths and finally speak the truth!! Bring Haleigh Home!!! JMO
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Now theres a great outllok as well as one heck of a post! Agree!!!!! jmo

CathyJo @ 12:48 – Sorry, I had goofed in my response. I had monster anthony on my mind so that’s why I said she’d be where she is even if she was from a wealthy family. I wasn’t awake yet!
It’s certainly true about Misty, I think. Wealthy or not if she had a different family that actually cared about her she wouldn’t be in this situation.

Cate I am not sure if AH wrote any articles in regards to WK but WK did post in the comments section of his articles.

m2c said,in June 30th, 2010 at 12:48 pm TM39 – I think you said this but I’m not sure. Copied it from someone else’s post where I thought it was quoting you. So my apologies if if was not you.
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DCF involvement was instigated by the Sheffields for the purpose to legaly change custody.
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Yes, it was the only way CS could get custody -by making R look worse than she did. “Custody by default” which is exactly what ended up happening.
Otherwise she’d have had to get off drugs, get a job, make a major effort to pay off custody and appeal to the court again. Didn’t even make an effort at those things. Much easier to try to get R in trouble. IMO.

And, yes, it could have started in part because of jealousy when M started living there or because the custody payment problem was getting really serious – as in jail time possibly or serious financial hassles for the fiance (Chad) and their future together.
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Totally agree! The easy road is always the road often taken by drug users.

LadySadie – I don’t believe we each have a separate God. We are all unified through one God. Which is why I felt compelled to share what God is telling me to all of my blogging friends here. My Sunday school teacher spoke about praying for wisdom and having the faith to hear Him when he gives the wisdom to you. If we can’t all have faith together that Haleigh can be returned through God then Haleigh may be gone forever. Does YOUR God tell you to judge a person even though you do not know for sure what has happened? Does YOUR God not believe in forgiveness, understanding and love? I am not against you. I am merely asking you to put your judgement aside and allow Haleigh to come home peacefully (if it is the case that she has been hidden away to keep her safe). I’m merely asking you to believe in the miracle of Haleigh returning home safely to a normal life.

m2c – thank you

OJ’s Glove – justice + putnam county = OJ and Misty together forever. 🙂

Thanks everyone for your responses!

m2c- imo, not reporting to DCFS the injuries until after Haleigh went missing speaks volumes tome. It leaves me wondering
1. Crystal didn’t care enough before Haleigh went missing and at a time she could of helped her but now can use it to boost a complaint against Ron or
2. Crystal realized the significance of the injuries after the disappearance. This seems unlikely to me as she took the pictures- for what reason?

LadySadie- What is sex assault with special conditions?

texasmommy39 said,in June 30th, 2010 at 12:57 pm m2c said,in June 30th, 2010 at 12:48 pm TM39 – I think you said this but I’m not sure. Copied it from someone else’s post where I thought it was quoting you. So my apologies if if was not you.
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DCF involvement was instigated by the Sheffields for the purpose to legaly change custody.
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Yes, it was the only way CS could get custody -by making R look worse than she did. “Custody by default” which is exactly what ended up happening.
Otherwise she’d have had to get off drugs, get a job, make a major effort to pay off custody and appeal to the court again. Didn’t even make an effort at those things. Much easier to try to get R in trouble. IMO.

And, yes, it could have started in part because of jealousy when M started living there or because the custody payment problem was getting really serious – as in jail time possibly or serious financial hassles for the fiance (Chad) and their future together.
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Totally agree! The easy road is always the
road often taken by drug users!

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It’s by far an easy road,they don’t take it because its easy,they take it because its an ADDICTION? CONTROL?
NOTHING EASY ABOUT IT! JMO

TexMom,Honestly i hope you say no but Have you ever been addicted?

Shockwave said,in June 30th, 2010 at 12:59 pm

with all do respect honestly but I don’t know how she’ll ever be able to come home peacefully,jmo

Ain’t gonna touch that one OJ! LOL

But I beleieve in God,I’ve seen him in action but He’s the same God who created the people in Haleighs life who have by their actions caused us to judge them! jmo

bbl lol

ShockWave,Right,I was trying to lighten the situation,not to well i take it tho,lol,
I understand,just put my 2 cents in,lol
I gotcha tho!
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This is interesting guy’s….hmmm wonder what finally did it,I havent read a thing about satans daughter in months and months but this looks perty interesting!

Casey Anthony news: Lee Anthony has distanced himself from sister accused of murdering own daughter

Last week, the prosecution in the Casey Anthony case released hundreds of jailhouse letters sent to the Florida mother accused of murder. Absent in the over 5,000 pages of correspondence, was a letter from Casey’s brother, Lee Anthony.

shes been on my back since I came here.
but i won’t give her what she wants.

omg,how dumb can one person be,off topic but gee,Cindy wrote to casey in jail and said,please make sure you get enough calcium and “sunlight” omg what an idiot!!!!!
Tells her she knows she was framed! begging her not to be mad for ??’s……jeeeeez grrrrrrrrr

I think that Caylee was given to much cloriform
and she died and since Casey was out to have fun she let everyone believe she was asleep..
then she went out and taped her mouth and nose up to make it seem like someone eles did this…but i think and pray that Caylee already has passed at that time..(or that would be just sic’)
As for haleigh..I believe that she overdosed
and all 3 Ronald…Tommy & Misty are involved..
with knowledge of it or her death)
As for Kyron..I think his uncle took him…
Keep up the great work!

who Cricket?

“My name is Shockwave, and I too am addicted to Dr. Pepper.” “Hi Shockwave!” “Hi all…it all started when….” LOL!

Alexandria Loring said,in June 30th, 2010 at 1:52 pm CathyJo- Lee is probably as sick as his dad is that Casey accused them of sexual abuse! I have a feeling that Baez wants them to admit to it, whether it’s true or not, to get sympathy for Casey. I think one of her parents mentioned in a letter that Lee & Mallory moved to Miami.
Could they be thinking of getting picked for her jury???? lol
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Alex,Casey does nothing for anybody else,only herself imo,
But it tix me off they weren’t mad when Caylee was killed by her and they hid facts and destroyed evidence imvho but now b/c sex abuse was brought up on him he seperates from her,just another day in the life of the Scamthonys compound! but now i will say,I almost 99% believe she was abused…or sindy has worked for the devil since casey was born!
casey would say God raped her to get off!

Shockwave said,in June 30th, 2010 at 1:58 pm “My name is Shockwave, and I too am addicted to Dr. Pepper.” “Hi Shockwave!” “Hi all…it all started when….” LOL!
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Oh now thats just plain cruel!!!

CathyJo – the person’s original comment said that Misty would not be where she is if she was from a wealthy family. I agree with that.

Unfortunately I had the monster on my mind (Satan’s daughter) and I responded wrong.

CathyJo, where did you see the article saying that Lee had distanced himself? I haven’t seen it worded like that although it does seem that he hasn’t written monster (but we may not have seen all the letters she got OR any of the ones Bozo smuggled in illegally).

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Also, everyone, it is not off topic to talk about Caylee here. This article is about her, too.

just a sec,ill get it!

Shockwave said,in June 30th, 2010 at 1:58 pm “My name is Shockwave, and I too am addicted to Dr. Pepper.” “Hi Shockwave!” “Hi all…it all started when….” LOL!
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Hi my name is TexasMommy39 and I am an addict to cigarretts and Dr.Pepper, but, it wasn’t my fault. LOL See I need major help!!!!

CJ I know addiction takes you down the hardest and darkest road imaginable and that is not what I ment by the easy road that addicts take… it is the lieing and stealing to get what they want and need not legal hard work to obtain it. I am sure you know what I mean. 😉

On Friday, documents were released that may provide clues to the identity of Caylee Anthony’s father.

Melina Calabrese said in an interview with investigators that she and Casey had been close friends since middle school. Calabrese claims Casey told her Caylee’s father was a “really hot guy” from Georgia named Josh who she met at Universal Studios. To read the transcript of the interview, click here.

Casey claims she and Josh had a one-night stand at a hotel and Caylee was conceived. She told Calabrese that Josh died in an auto accident around Caylee’s 2nd birthday.

Fox 35 also reports that Casey tried to hide her pregnancy from her family and friends and only admitted to it when she was in her 7th month.

m2c said,in June 30th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
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Thanks I’ve been waiting for that! LOL

LadySadie said,in June 30th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
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Please quit arguing. This blog is supposed to be about missing/deceased children. Please stick to the topic. Its posts like these that make ppl not want to come back to this site.

oops Cricket. sorry for typo.

texasmommy39 said,in June 30th, 2010 at 2:09 pm Shockwave said,in June 30th, 2010 at 1:58 pm “My name is Shockwave, and I too am addicted to Dr. Pepper.” “Hi Shockwave!” “Hi all…it all started when….” LOL!
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Hi my name is TexasMommy39 and I am an addict to cigarretts and Dr.Pepper, but, it wasn’t my fault. LOL See I need major help!!!!

CJ I know addiction takes you down the hardest and darkest road imaginable and that is not what I ment by the easy road that addicts take… it is the lieing and stealing to get what they want and need not legal hard work to obtain it. I am sure you know what I mean.
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Actually,No I don’t at all! I just see you judging an addict for something you haven’t experienced so that means you obviously don’t know what its like or how hard it is to overcome,none of us say as kids,”I wanna grow up and be an addict”
and I also know that lying and stealing is part of addiction……it controls your mind,I lied as a druggy but TG i never stole,and I was
working as a housekeeper in my home and others as well as a hotel and was a mother and a grandma so its not alllllll druggies fit that bill! some do,yes!
an addict has no problem?? they lie to cover for that!!!!!

Hi, Karri! I just this minute left you a note on the Caylee article referring you to THIS one! LOL!

If anyone wants to read the weird, sick, creepy letters monster’s gotten from Sindee and George Marie and MalMal and the public – as well as a few “gems” from people who really stick it to her just go to:

wftv.com/index.html

Scroll down the page and click on what you want to read. This link also includes links to some transcripts. Read the one called Lezn – that’s Nathan, Tony Lazzaro’s roomie when monster was staying with them. It’s a doozie and will help cook her goose, I’m sure.

Alex,I disagree only b/c she was killing Caylee to spite Cindy! jmo????

Karri,

What was the reason you felt the need to address me but not this:

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Cricket said,
in June 30th, 2010 at 1:50 pm

shes been on my back since I came here.
but i won’t give her what she wants.

TG M2!
I was reading the ones from SINdy and omg got angry already,the first 4 pages,sheww

My Grandson brought me back to life tho TexMom,I thank God for him everyday!