It is going to be another busy weekend for BNN on the radio. On Sunday at 3pm (central) we will be running our weekly look back at the Haleigh Cummings case. Some might say that there is no new news, they would be wrong. There are lots of topics to chew over.
Here is one that you can mull over. When Kim Picazio filed her Bar Complaint response she made it clear, crystal clear, that Art Harris had been retained as a media advisor to assist in the rehabilitation of Crystal Sheffield’s reputation The entire set of documents are here. Art was furious when this information was made public. In fact I was told by a source very, very, close to the case that Mr. Harris actually asked Ms. Picazio to retract part of her evidence, particularly the incriminating evidence that implicated Art as being a hired gun. This week the Bald Truth has been busting a ball on Nancy Grace, “they need to look at cousin Joeâ€, we have heard this so many times it is a joke. Who is he working for now? Even Nancy Grace seems to be rolling her eyes about this one. Is Art back on the Sheffield payroll?
Leonard Padilla is also doing his best to re-insert himself into not just this case, but also the Caylee Anthony case. What is interesting is that the lawyers involved are giving him a big ‘thumbs down’. Of course the final decision has to reside with the client, will Misty jump at the chance of springing free and owing the Big Hatted one $135K?
Over on the Caylee side it would appear that the folks holding the mortgage for George and Cindy Anthony have had enough. Bank Of America have filed a foreclosure notice. The only surprising part about this is that the bank waited for 9 months to take this action. Apparently the last payment received was in May/2009.
One has to wonder what happened to the $100k that George and Cindy received from a well known TV cable station to use the photos? One also wonders why the Anthony’s decided to go on a cruise rather than pay the mortgage?
There is also news in the Somer Thompson case. TJ Hart is closer to this one than I am, I will just wait for his update on Sunday.
To listen in just point your browser to www.blogtalkradio.com a few minutes before 3pm, you will see the link on the front page.
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackSay and think what you will… Art does spill some truths!! Cobra wanted his own words retracted, remember those “illegal” audio tapes made by a little “reporter”. I’m thinking Art will deal with his woes… hopefully better than most have!!
I need to leave this case for about a week. I’m confused, tired, and just sick of one whack job that has found their way to this blog (not you BA, Simon and crew, m2c, and a few others). I’m not naming the person. Anyway, I’ll check in about a week from now. Won’t stop praying for you Haleigh.
Shockwave you are more than understood by me!! While I totally appreciate our Host and Hostess… not to mention their hearts and dedication… I’m on the verge too!
BA you have mail.
hey cent, shockwave…you can’t leave…. why allow one person to break up a great group? Stay with us.ignored whackjobs generally go away.
cathartic, i want mail too…(sad face)
LOL methinks, I have no doubt you want mail, but not likely from me. It’s just me whining.
oh okay…thanks, now I don’t feel left out.
Cathartic… so do you!!
MeThinks… It’s just a thought!!! Not a plan in/of action!!
I guess I will go hang out with the hubs for awhile, tommorrow he will be 71 years old, and i wanna’ make em feel special!
I’ll be keeping my eye on you cent…you better be good. Seriously though, I’m gonna take a lil’ break…but I’ll check back in a bit.. hugs all…prayers for our Haleigh.
Have fun methinks!!!
OK so now that all you friends are done emailing one another and letting us know about it, lets talk about Art Harris.
I have no opinion of Art. Something inside of me tells me, with his credentials, he wouldn’t go on TV and speak mistruths. (Intentionally) On the other hand, the fact that he goes on NG show is of concern to his ethics. I HATE NG.
I guess one will do just about anything for publicity…….
ba(cent)…well played on the other article.
Plz… I call it like I see it. I don’t always like what others say… and I don’t always have a “negative” comment or let it go that far unless it really gets to me. A reminder is a reminder!!! Just sayin.
I didn’t like Art for a while because he played into NG’s hand too easily. But, he’s getting better! He’s starting to slip in a comment here and there that doesn’t necessarily go along with NG’s views.
I think Art has learned a lesson like all… Nothing about this case is easy!!!
lol I HATE the fact that I watch NG and give her ratings, but I do!! (For this case only) And I seeth thru most of it!
since i have decided to post and call out someone on what i consider to be bs…let me clarify to all that i have been reading this blog daily, constantly refreshing, hoping for new info and insights…. since the dogs hit on the dumpster.
i have a few things that i have yet to get definitive answers on:
1. the 911 call – it was ‘posted’ that in the background RC asked MC ‘whyd you let them take her?’ – is there a clear recording of this that anyone can direct me to?
2. there was a video interview (within the first few days of haleighs disappearance) by a news agency with crystal and marie when they were asked point blank ‘what do you think happened to haleigh?’ and they both looked at each other and paused before answering..i think this was at one time on newsjax…i want to find that video
in NO way do i have a working theory. i will never assume to know the answer in this case, i only wnat to know where haleigh is, what happened and see the guilty pay.
thx.
I am looking forward to the program Sunday. I have been following the Somer Thompson case, so I will be interested in hearing what T.J. has to report on that, and I am always interested in the Cumming’s case. It is never dull. LOL
plzstfu-the guilty ARE paying. She is locked up behind bars right now. With cornbraids in her hair. Head?
Do I know that Misty directly was involved with Haleigh? NO. Does anyone? But…the little girl was on Misty’s watch. For that, I hold her responsible.
methinks – I sent you mail! A personal message! Because you joined it today! Check the forum! Near the top on the right it reads “inbox.” Click on that.
Bold… I watch Mizz Nancy too… I am adding to her ratings also.
Plz… Are you speaking of the video where Marie squeezes the hell out of Crystal’s hand/wrist? If so… someone here called that to our attention sometime ago, I’m sure they’ll let you know where to find it.
beautiful*adams (cent) -Thanks for sharing! I was so ashammed. Glad I am not alone! lol
Welcome, plzstfu!
I don’t have the sources you’re looking for but someone will. It might not happen right away but we’ll find them. So don’t worry. We’ll keep asking around and one or more of our very organized bloggers (God bless them) will be able to get you the info.
I’m probably going to call it a night, folks.
Have a great evening and “see” you tomorrow!
Prayers for Haleigh.
boldone – i agree with what you say. it fits. as i said, i only have theories..and weirder, i wonder if any of them tie together. im NOT a ron/misty/crytal fan. i want to know where or what happened to haleigh and see ALL involved pay for the past year.
i asked 2 questions just to clarify fact or fiction. period.
yes ba(cent) that is exactly the video i am referring to.
How rude to talk about emailing each other. What are you all in HS??
Why bother coming on here if your only letting us know you are emailing “privately”
This is why I seldom come to this forum. GAMES!
Bold… you are never alone… sometimes it’s a quick tune in to see the topic but then becomes a nauseas visit… go figure!! But I do like the attorney that rhymes, LOL!!
plzstfu-NOT a fan of any of them either. However, I do believe in Ron’s innocence. JMO.
Beautiful..can you answer one ?? for me?? Why every phone call that comes in for NG is about loving her & the twins?? Are they paying these people to call in? What is up with that?? lol
Bold… I am guilty of emailing notifications… not meant in a rude way at all, towards any of you guys.
Beautiful..I am tired. And crabby-lol
boldone – i appreciate your view. this case is so f-ed up that i cannot judge anyone on their opinions and i never will.
back to lurking and researching. and waiting.
Bold… my thoughts on that I don’t quite get it either. I thought at first it was because of her struggles… but now… I’m thinking it’s a way for folks to get on air!! When was the last time a negative comment came through? (not talking of negative comments about her children). Just negative comments disagreeing with her!!
plzstfu-this case is f*c up. However, what I can’t get my head around is, we are dealing with stupid low life gutter people. Who would rat each other out in a heart beat.
Why is that not happening?
Being a “victim” is one thing.
Being an out right bytch like she is to her guests is another. Its sickening.
poverty and criminal activity can tie a family together tighter than we might know. thats the only thing i can come up with other than threats of violence from the outside. thats a far fetched angle imo. if thats the case whats the ‘outside’ angle? too many questions, too few answers. i only want to know where haleigh is and have justice for her.
and as far as NG, she sucks. hype tv at its finest.
Negative comments don’t get through on NG. A person who calls has to give their question before being put through. All calls are screened and they play with a several second delay. If a person says they are going to say one thing and then tries to say something else once they get put through, the call is dropped. That’s what’s happening each time you see NG ask for a specific caller and it appears as they the call was “lost.”
And that’s why all the callers are pretty much saying or asking whatever the host wants them to.
Boldone: I am sorry you were offended by my emailing someone. I had something to say that was not appropriate to post here. I apologize if it was rude; that certainly was not my intent.
Mizz Nancy…. is Mizz Nancy!!! I hope sh’e nicer in her everyday life… I actually suspect she is!!!
Plz… the video I will check on, now!!
plzstfu. Here is the video I think you’re looking for. It may not post immediately due to links sometimes go in moderation.
Hope this helps and hope you can see it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E32-t1uLY_M
Cathartic, thanks on the NG question info… I guess all the calls should be screened!!
Plz… I’m still looking for that death grip interview… it’s odd that I can’t pull it up right away, because it got folks to talking, not only here.
ba(cent) i agree…..i have searched thru many vids, i remember seeing it early on but now cant find it…
If it was on a news media site, maybe they take things down after a certain amount of time?
Plz….. go here!!!!
http://www.bloggernews.net/123018
Praying for answers is one that posted it. I found it by one of my comments… “tighter than a knats ass”.
CFLNewschat.com
Here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E32-t1uLY_M&feature=related
I just looked back… Paw I believe is the one that called it to our attention… miss you Paw!!
Praying4Answers linked us up @ 12:23 am. Miss you too!!
Hi Paw…. you got magical powers!!!!!
That video has always struck a bad nerve with me.
cent, did you find the video you are looking for? I thought it was filmed by Geraldo but I have looked for an hour and haven’t found it.
I’ve missed y’all too. 🙂
Treece, I already got it posted hun. I have that video on my desktop.
Hi Treece, I found it but Paw tuned magically in… right on time as usual… I’m somewhat giddy at that.
Hi Paw!!!! good to see you. I see your post now, thanks.
paw69 and ba(cent) – much thanks. thats the exact video i wanted to see again.
there’s another video i’m researching that shows ron in agony and when asked about misty his grief stopped and he became very serious. i say this because i do not want to be considered bias to one theory or another that others might have. all respect to all opinions of all bloggers.
Plz… I don’t know the one you’re speaking of!
PAW, how many more days til your man is home????
I know you are on the count down!!!! yeah!!!
cent I am glad she found it, that is the one that makes my stomach flip – that look Marie gives Crystal is so eerie.
i know hollysgmom has said that she has software that can enhance audio of the 911, or maybe she pointed to a link with enhanced audio of the 911. thats the only other link i seek. ive already got the one of the neighbors reporting the 2:30am of hearing screaming/cries/female on phone from the mh.
again i say, just researching and no offense to opinions/theories of anyone. these are just things that have bothered me all along.
. there was a video interview (within the first few days of haleighs disappearance) by a news agency with crystal and marie when they were asked point blank ‘what do you think happened to haleigh?’ and they both looked at each other and paused before answering..i think this was at one time on newsjax…i want to find that video
**********************Sheppard smith,ill get it,i have always kept a close eye on that vid,brb
Treece, I can only say, it’s right around the corner.
Treece… I agree it was a eerie… and as one that doesn’t really believe that they are involved… I did NOT like the vibe, it’s a sinister feel to that too!!! I just don’t get them at all… I’ve always felt that they ALL are hiding something!!
CathyJo, I already posted the video lol.
The transcript is here,
http://batteredmomslosecustody.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/fl-mom-loses-custody-battle-now-may-never-see-daughter-again/
video:
http://batteredmomslosecustody.wordpress.com/2009/02/15/shep-smith-interviews-haleigh-cummings-mother-grandmother/
Especially watch marie about i think 3:10 to 3:15 mark
Very peculiar!
aww,im sorry,lol im always late,hey paws,havent seen ya in 4ever!
I have been reading the posts here for almost a year now and I appreciate all the information that is shared. I may have posted here once before (or maybe it was another site and I am confused) about Donna Brock when it first came out that Misty had a new friend or maybe it was the road rage incident. Anyway if it was here some of you will remember reading my post about DB and her BiSexualality and Swinging LifeStyle. Now I am the one curious about the lack of coverage on her, like phone calls, conversations with visitors, drug bust video, ect. I know of one call that was released and that messed up video (unlike the others of M and R.) Does anyone know what ever happened about the courts supposed to verify where the money came from to bond her out before she could bond out?
When sheppard asks cs about the canal incident,she was clueless!! So imo i DO think that was a custody claim!
Either that or shes found a million kids face down in canals!
Sometimes I have to step away. I have things going on around me right now that needs my fullest attention. No worries, Nothing bad at all.
I haven’t read the blogs lately. So I don’t really know where we’re at in topic. But I do have a feeling that if Misty and/or Tommy hasn’t broken down already, They are getting ready to.
I hope you are right Paws!!and i understand,it killed me to be here yesterday but at the same time it killed me not to be too! weird!
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 26th, 2010 at 9:35 pm **************************
Did you see the pole someone had asking if we were tired of hearing about the twins,lol it was full of YES!
Paw.. we wish you the best, and you’re very missed. But we understand, and are very happy when we see you!!
Crystal’s false reports in the past is just 1 reason I still don’t think she should be fully cleared yet. Something just isn’t right with her and her mother. She basically had to be reminded about Haleigh being face down in a canal. What’s up with that?
Has anyone seen the supposed letter Misty wrote to the judge about Ron abusing Haleigh? Because if she truly wrote that, then she contradicted herself in these jail videos when she says Ron is a good father.
Something just isn’t right here.
n/g said misty eats better than she does in jail? Yea right!! I don’t blast her for yakkin,but atleast let it be true!!
Cathy… no I didn’t see that. I understand her being happy and grateful, she should be. I questioned the exposure, just as NG questions others!!
Paws,where did you hear that and when was that?
I’ll just say this… It will have been 7 long months, and I’m going to suck up all 15 days with him. So I won’t be on here for atleast 15 days during this time lol. But I will let y’all know when, when it’s a couple days out. Right now I can’t say exactly when due to not being allowed to yet.
Exactlyyyy Adams,I am glad she got married and had babies but i don’t like hearing that shes the only woman who ever gave birth lol,and she has never sinned.lol but i do wish she’d been on my husbands case!
Paw69, I am so happy for your visit whenever it is!!!! I understand backing off awhile, sometimes that’s the healthiest thing to do.
You are always very perceptive, I am so ready for ALL to tell ALL! Actually it is over due!!!
I heard about the supposed letter the day Crystal went to court to get custody of Jr. If it was just a rumor about the letter then I’ll just chalk it up as that.
Yea the canal and all that and “losing Haleigh” and she still failed a drug test,i just don’t see into that!
im still searching for the vid of ron crying then getting serious when asked about MC. its on the all the newsjax articles, when you click video on the stories it shows the timeline piece. part of that timeline shows him in a blue on blue striped shirt crying…there IS a video of that same interview that shows his mom and him and later his reaction when asked about MC. will find full length i hope. im certain it was in the first 5-10 days of haleigh’s disappearance. thx to all for the other info to answer my questions.
I am so glad,i think i finally got my pc working gr888 again Adams,i found a registry repair and there were like 13000 missing whatchamacallits!
I don’t understand how Crystal got Jr. in the first place. But I’m not a judge, so I can’t do anything about it.
Paw.. as far as I know that letter has never been produced, atleast not to the public. Misty also says on the vids, that just cause Ronald is addicted to pills, doesn’t make him a bad father.(paraphrashing)
I think she is full of contradictions, yet, I don’t really see her writing a letter, but if she’s pissed… who knows!! It’s hard to tell, especially since the vids were recorded earlier.
Okay, then I guess until a letter is produced, I’ll just chalk it up for now. Thank You.
Too if you remember when the lieD guy asked her when he asked if she thought Ron would have done anything to harm Haleigh,she answered no way and he even said then,i see you doubt that statement!not a quote but he did!
PAW69 said,in February 26th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Sorry,i was referring to your post!
Plz,did you find that video?
http://www.newsrunner.com/videos/ronald-cummings/1/1?ref=%2Fentity%2Fnation%2Fronald-cummings%2F3033786161%2F0%2F0%3Fsummaryon%3D1%26sg%3Dall
This link i found last night,it has just videos of the case!
Have y’all really listened to and watched her jail videos? She’s made a few slip ups already. Some are hard to catch if your not paying attention. 1 is when she is talking about God’s time when talking to her dad.
Is M2C here?
southernbelle said,in February 26th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
***********************puzzles me too and the video we did see wasn’t a second of her!
Cathy,
Even tho I feel she failed the LieD, I question the guy even saying that to her. I think he was full of it too.
http://www.newsrunner.com/videos/ronald-cummings/21/21?p=
This is another vid i can’t get over!
m2c♥ said,in February 26th, 2010 at 9:19 pm methinks – I sent you mail! A personal message! Because you joined it today! Check the forum! Near the top on the right it reads “inbox.” Click on that.
##### thanks m2c..I feel pretty special!!! andI think I”m actually starting to figure this thing out! YIPPPEEE night now!
The vid plz is referring to,when rons crying and falls to the ground,if you notice when his cell rings while he has it in his hand,he doesn’t answer,now i dunno about yall but if my childs missing,i’ll answer that call if im in the sewer!
Which LieD? lol. Sorry, She’s taken so many.
methinks…is m2C here?
Sorry SouthernBelle… you weren’t being ignored… yes, I wonder about the lack of vids/auds… Isn’t she in one of the UC vids.. wearing that hat… I think she and M were sporting a beanie.
Maybe it was some punk friend he didn’t want to talk to .?.?.?.
im still searching cathyjo. at this point, its just for my own answers and certainly dont want to stir up anything in either direction! i know for certain it was in the first days, it was a local news chan video and he was in a blue on blue striped shirt…it started with him and TN in a yard (didnt look like actual crime scene) maybe in tn’s yard? not sure. they both talked, then he was in front of a minivan crying then got serious real fast when asked about MC.
bedtime for me. if i find it tomorrow i will post it, otherwise thx to others for giving link to vid on CS and MG i asked about before.
That site i posted for vids has every vid you could think of about the case ,and theyre all right there,easy!
There is a partial 9-1-1 call with the background turned up made by Geraldo. It doesn’t go as far as the part that someone requested, but it has some interesting background on it, if you listen carefully. You can google it at Geraldo 2/21/09. There are 4 tapes in this series. The 9-1-1 call is on part 1. It is the tape with a picture of Crystal with a yellow top on and her mother being interviewed.
Paw… I believe the one funded by EquuSearch.
Yeah, I’m not so sure about all that BS with TM and the tests ect. anyways. So I’ve basically just put those things in a box for now.
IDK Adams,but its peculiar and i thought about it when she mentioned this!
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beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 26th, 2010 at 11:04 pm Paw.. as far as I know that letter has never been produced, atleast not to the public. Misty also says on the vids, that just cause Ronald is addicted to pills, doesn’t make him a bad father.(paraphrashing)
I think she is full of contradictions, yet, I don’t really see her writing a letter, but if she’s pissed… who knows!! It’s hard to tell, especially since the vids were recorded earlier.
If anyone sees M2C please let her know she was right…and I was wrong….I just read all the posts from MOO on the last article…HOLY COW…no pun intended (well, maybe a little)…I think MOO has madcow disease! I was REALLY hopeful that we’d get someone from LE on here that could provide some good insight…but alas, my hopes were short lived. I am sorry if MOO truly has ovarian cancer but she has caused me to withdral my support with her bizarre and inflamatory posts. My apologies to M2C.
plzstfu
Here is a link to the 911 call redacted under key documents. Idk if this is what you want.
Karon,you mentioned that before and i have looked ever since!!
oops here is the link:
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090212/ARTICLES/902110942/1002/NEWS
But his daughter was missing,why would you not answer? he didn’t know who took Haleigh??
Cathy… I think it’s truly anyone’s guess when it comes to Misty. I do believe that the jailhouse vids show Misty losing her grip. I wonder if she meant it about Ron being an addict, or trying to save face?! Maybe… it’s both. But, is she really capable of siding with her “arch nemesis”?
CathyJo, I can’t answer for his actions. But to be honest, If my child is missing, The last thing I want to be on, is the phone. That’s where family and friends come in to help. Answer the phone when people are flooding it. People react differently to different things. I’m not going to condemn someone just because they didn’t answer the phone. We have no clue who was calling at that moment, and we never will know. Heck, as far as we know, it could have been a bill collector, ya know.
are there new ones Adams?
I ain’t seen none where shes losing it,seen her be selfish.lol
Paws,what i am saying is what if the kidnapper was calling,thats all i meant?? lol
Then I’m sure he would have answered it lol. It was probably someone he could care less about.
Karon Cox said,in February 26th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
There is a partial 9-1-1 call with the background turned up made by Geraldo…………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcMkLE5fhk0
Where Ron can be heard saying, “We’re f’d. I had nothing to do with this” and then Misty starts talking about waking up, those are snippets from their interviews and not from the 911 call. Geraldo pieced together the 911 tape and other interviews and it’s very confusing.
okie dokie,lol
Cathy… talking about her meltdowns… and her comments about Ron’s family. I think she would never speak out that way towards them if she wasn’t becoming un-hinged. She very well may be dropping hints, I often think that. But I could be wrong!!
I give up,lol was saying,how would he know it was not a knapper? If his child was taken by a drugger,then how did he know someone he dealt with wasnt calling with info or to say whatever!
fir me though i wouldnt have to see whose calling,id answer every single call!imo
No new Vids… that I know of, Cathy. We’re all on edge for them!!
Caller ID 😛 lol. I know what you are saying CathyJo. I hear ya. I’m just not 1 to knit pick at every little thing. I’m not saying you are doing that. And I understand what you are saying.
If it was the person who kidnapped Haleigh, They would have left a message or called back and we would have known about it already.
I take it M2C is not here….and I feel invisible…lol
jb, I haven’t seen m2c post since I’ve been here this evening. And I have no clue who this MOO person is. I missed that whole ordeal obviously. That’s the only reason I didn’t respond.
JB… no worries!!
jb, you aren’t invisible, I think M2c is gone for tonight but I know she will see your comment in the morning. I am sure she will appreciate your kindness in coming back to apologize about it. She usually gets on early in the morning.
PAW69, m2c will be sorry she missed you. Maybe you could stop back by tomorrow when she is on.
JB…. you are family!!!
M2C did post earlier that she was calling it a night.
Be back in a few!!
PAW – well, MOO came on here claiming to be LE and I was REALLY hopeful she could be helpful and give us some extra insight….but just read her most recent posts on the last article….WOW…it was obvious her children weren’t posting…she was….saying it was her kids….I had tried to welcome her to our little family and give her the benefit of the doubt…even defending her to M2C. Obviously M2C saw right through her little game….I just wanted M2C to know that I concede. SHE WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO right….and I’m officially turning in my “Welcome to BNN” sign for new bloggers….and replacing it with a “NO COWS ALLOWED” sign. SHEEESSSHHH! Going to go clean up the cow patties now…..it is the least I can do for my blunder…dang cows!
JB…. you’re so funny!! Keep your “Welcome to BNN” sign, you were/are kind. It’s hard, but try not to be so hard on yourself… it is what it is… we all shall keep on with the business at hand. NO WORRIES!!! BRB!!
HHHHMMMMMM, Glad I missed out on the drama lol. But I’m happy to see that you came back to make a mends with m2c.
Thanks B*A.
PAW… only thing you missed was a lot of bull (sorry, just can’t stop with the cow jokes). I just feel like I just tattoo SUCKER on my forehead. 😀
And when I’m wrong, I admit I’m wrong…and HOLY COW was I wrong. 😆
So, now that I’ve gotten that off my chest…what’s going on with our Haleigh Bug. Anything new? As much as I’ve tired of the videos of Misty and the hillbilly bunch, we sure could use something new. I’m hoping LE is getting plenty of info from the parts they have redacted. I’m hoping one of them has really slipped and given up some info LE can use to bring our baby home.
One question I have….on some of the videos Misty is obviously going against her attorney in regard to LP…she tells her family to get him involved, that she WANTS him to bond her out….so how can the attorney go against those wishes? How can he send a letter to LP advising him to cease and desist when his client is saying GET HIM HERE TO GET ME OUT?
Did everyone leave again? Let me guess…I tracked cow crap into the room!
*Cleaning off my boots* LMAO.
Seriously now…..
I don’t know why this attorney is involved in the first place. They are like a married couple with no communication. Neither of them listen to the other.
I’m sure the attorney is trying to make this into another movie based case like Caylee’s case. The longer it takes for anyone to talk, the more drama, the better the movie/book.
PAW – I thought the atty had to do what the client requested….Maybe Misty is saying one thing on video and another to her atty….but WHY? I just don’t get how he could be doing one thing when the whole world is seeing her say just the opposite.
Remember who we’re talking about here. Misty!!! Although, I don’t think she’s telling her attorney something different. She wants out way to badly.
PAW – I understand why the atty doesn’t want Misty bonded out. He can use anything she knows about the Haleigh case as leverage to reduce her sentence for the drug charges….if she bonds out and confesses anything to LP, LP is under no obligation to keep that information confidential and in fact he would be obligated to share it with LE….bye bye leverage. BUT, what I don’t get is how he can go against his client’s wishes….and just how the heck are these people paying for attorneys? More Pro Bono?
Maybe this is why it was stated for her to get a new attorney. I can’t remember who said it though. I’ve seen too many videos and watched too much on NG lol. Because her attorney hasn’t even called her or visited her from what I have gathered.
So if she wants out so badly, why isn’t she out? I mean, why or how could her atty go against her wishes?
Pro Bono. Money making cases with movie/book deals.
This case is like a TV Series that has you on the edge of your seat, then they make you wait a week to find out what happens next. After hearing about the whole LP deal, We haven’t heard anything since then.
You know, I haven’t heard any of her family members state they’ve been talking to her atty either…..have you? You’d think they’d be relaying messages to him from Misty and getting him to work with LP. I still don’t understand how any of these people can afford an atty….these tax returns can only go SO far. I don’t even understand how all these people GET a tax return….last time I check burglary and drug dealing didn’t provide
W-2’s! LOL
Yeah, there is such a long lag time on the videos we really don’t have a clue what is going on in real time….who knows what has happened since the last videos.
And I can’t bear to watch NG anymore. I just go in and read the transcripts….I can’t stand the faces she makes AND Art’s orange bald head is frightening. Plus, they just keep playing the same videos over and over….they never give any NEW info for all their “bombshells” and “breaking news”.
I think it’s confusing because of the date of the tapes and the letter was recent. Since we are “behind” so to speak… because we weren’t privilege to them at the time she was making those claims to Ma and Pa. I hope I didn’t just make it any more confusing!
Yes.. I can totally see a book and or movie of the week!!
This is a case of the right hand not talking to the left hand.
Someone was working somewhere some how. Daddy Croslin was working at 1 point. LP just helped them out with a car and a place to live. He’s really buying the Croslin’s. The deal with LP is, Misty has to talk, then they have to verify her story, Once it’s verified and facts, He will then have her bonded out. Now me, personally, I wouldn’t go for that deal, because if she was involved at all, they won’t allow her to be bonded out anyways. This may be why she says let her out first, then she’ll talk.
well, time for me to call it a night. Just wanted to let M2C know she was right about MOO and check for any updates on the case. Take care PAW.
Night all.
I see you’ve got it covered… LOL… I’m a poor typist.
I don’t see the deal going through. Misty either is involved and isn’t going to tell anything she knows OR she knows nothing and she’ll lie and blame anyone she can think of and they’ll be able to prove it to be a lie….so…I think she’s staying put.
Night guys….cleaning up cow crap has left me pooped! LOL Take care and God Bless little Haleigh.
At this point, We can only do 1 thing…. Put this in God’s hands. Insanity will catch up to her though. It’s already eating at her. She’ll talk. Just don’t know when.
I wouldn’t go for the deal either!!
Good-Night All! Think I’ll watch a movie on Youtube… see ya in the Morning!!
Good Night All!!!
And I don’t have ovarian cancer….it’s uterine cancer…two different body parts. Make fun of it or me all you want, karma’s a biatch. But, now, who’s lying? Would you say, that by the email, I have a friend @ PCSO? And would you assume by the uniform and gun at my side, I work with LE? Hummmmm
CathyJo:
Do you have google? If you do type in
Geraldo 2/21/09 It will take you to a number of Geraldo Interviews. Look over on the righthand side of the page and click on to the tape that says pt 1 with Crystal and her mother being interviewed. Crystal has on a yellow top.
My Opinion Only said,in February 27th, 2010 at 12:36 am And I don’t have ovarian cancer….it’s uterine cancer…two different body parts. Make fun of it or me all you want, karma’s a biatch. But, now, who’s lying? Would you say, that by the email, I have a friend @ PCSO? And would you assume by the uniform and gun at my side, I work with LE? Hummmmm
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Moo Praying for God to heal you and you recover in His time. Hang in there.
Hello to everyone on here, still. I am new and first time blogging on this post and I have to say, I am S C A R E D of you all already. I have spent the last few hours reading post after post. I have to comment on something though. Regarding this Opinion person you call Moo, honestly, she really didn’t do anything too horribly wrong, other than possibly give hint that maybe she had information about the case. I can see where you would all, toward the end, believe her to be a liar in all statements, but when you see her email and the link she provided above, I truly believe that she is sincere. I think her motives were pure, especially in the beginning, but she got swept up in the moment. But, as you can see from the link she provided, she really is not a liar. I think she was always very polite and is being ugly now because a person, when they know they are not fibbing, can only take so much. She is clearly communicating with someone from the Sheriffs office and the photo of her is a screen shot from her computer, and you can see on it where she pulled up her pics, so I believe it really is her. So, in reality, the only lie she told, and she didn’t even really do that, was about maybe knowing things. Not saying that is good, but it is what it is. But you guys are acting like she pulled the worlds greatest scam, and clearly she did no such thing. Now, please, this is all my own opinion so don’t start shooting! Thanks for allowing me to comment. Won’t be staying, just was surfing the web, saw the site, and got fascinated by all the post, and felt for the moo person, especially her being sick….My aunt passed away 8 months ago from cancer in her uterus. I know that moo is going through a hard time, and now this…..JMO (and how, seriously, how do you know that one or both of her children didn’t get on the computer while she was cooking, as she stated? You don’t. They are just accusations against someone that you have no knowledge or proof of) Maybe (or not maybe, but apparently) others have burned you all or lied on here, but it doesn’t mean that because of one bad call she made, that she too is a “fraud” or “troll” as you call them) Way too harsh on here….way too harsh.
gee, this is deja vu all over again 😀
Unfortunately the email & pic links is….no more. I saw it though amd I do agree it to be real. The daughter(s) posting was a little strange but I thought perhaps she was typing for them or a voice recognition software. I’ve been meaning to buy one myself. ANyway….tis the BNN comments….LOL! Poster beware!
As per the audio software that was asked about it is Goldwave. It’s a free download for trial, purchase for full version. Pretty handy little tool. It’s fairly advanced so to do everything it “does” one needs to be somewhat proficient. Running things in forward, reverse, increase audio, and some other basic stuff is pretty user friendly, but taking out background noise or pulling specific pieces of audio forward (Ron’s voice forward over 911 op & Misty) and etc takes more skill then I have.
vaquera said,in February 27th, 2010 at 1:49 am gee, this is deja vu all over again
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Hi Vaquera <3
JMHO as I see it the LE does not have any evidence from any of the homes or vehicles that suggest fowl play, or a struggle that produced an injury that would of left evidence. With that I think she was taken by threats and very much alive. She was either passed over alive to another source or was killed where her body is. That is providing she was taken by one of the sources that have been looked at in this case. The only other possibility that could explain why no evidence in a vehicle or home has been found is because it is a source that has not been looked at or not with any depth. I think the answer is that the answer is else where. …JMHO
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
G’Nite All
who are these people that think this is their own private chit chat? Morons! ..the answer is – Misty is being made a scapegoat for LE’s inepitude..she knows NOTHING!
It’s the quiet times like this that I just have the impulse to say….
Let’s take it from the top! (Meaning theories, what we do actually know, & where does it fit)
If there was an abduction by SO/RSO then what info does Misty have for LP?
If Crystal/Sheffields took Haleigh…what does Misty have for LP?
DID Ron & Crystal really talk about reconcilliations prior to Haleigh’s abduction?
If it is true, I can almost agree with Crystal about hiring KP & trying for custody. Look at it this way, if they had been talking about getting back together then Ron decides to stay with Misty but then less than 48 hours later HER DAUGHTER is missing….then barely 1 month goes by and he’s proposing to Misty & marrying her…I mean it had only been the month before that they were talking about being a family again. Then Ron & his whole family back that little chit….Geez…who wouldn’t “lose it” under those circumstances. Also, if they HAD been planning a “reunion tour”, when would she have planned this caper? While they were still in talks of reuniting? Within 48 hours of Ron’s decision to stay with Misty? If so would something so hastily thrown together withhold not only LE scrutiny but public scrutiny so long?
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 26th, 2010 at 11:11 pm Cathy,
Even tho I feel she failed the LieD, I question the guy even saying that to her. I think he was full of it too.
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I think the same re him being full of it too. Just another person inserting themselves in the case doing what they can to get themselves on NG etc. One of way too many in this case.
treece said,in February 26th, 2010 at 10:42 pm cent I am glad she found it, that is the one that makes my stomach flip – that look Marie gives Crystal is so eerie.
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It sure is. They are still very much on my suspect list. I also have to wonder and be suspicious of that whole anti-Ron internet campaign at a time when they should have been concerned about finding Haleigh, not just trashing Ron. I was one of the people getting PMs from Marie, Crystal & KP’s internet friends, trying to get info about me. One of them (mentioned many times in the bar complaint), pm’ed me saying nasty things about Crystal in an attempt to be-friend me so I’d give her personal info about myself. The other (mentioned even more times in the bar complaint), repeatedly pm’ed me in a friendly way, but was later exposed as Marie’s #1 girl. Creeped me out and made me angry. ittle me, just one of many bloggers….WTH for? Makes ya wonder.
OJ’s Glove
I agree that LE is blaming Misty because they can’t solve it, I think they truly believe it though. There are signs of abuse of power and deliberate manipulation by the Police. For instance the statement by Greenwood that one of things that concerns them is no signs of forced entry, yet ample cases show home invasions, serial rapist, killers that did not force their way in, they used a ploy. One of Countries most horrific serial killers never forced his way in his victims homes. He brutally killed and had no consistent pattern in terms of a consistent time line. He first killed in 79, then is 88, but was a serial rapist in between while never killing. Then in 99 he started killing again but didn’t rape, he always used a ploy to gain entry. Sometimes he locked up when leaving sometimes he left the door open. That is just one case of hundreds that Greenwood knows, as a cop he knows that. So why would he mislead people like that, desperation? I think their desperate and as long as they have an excuse for why they don’t have this solved then it deflects from them. It’s really sad there are so many in this case that are all about their own selves and not facing their own issues so they can possibly see another possibility.
Mr. and/or Mrs. Barrett, Just curious, why was my post and link disabled? I said nothing vulgar nor did I implicate anyone w/ the PCSO….I was only try to prove my honesty in my claims. I have several other emails between myself and other LE through out the US that are no different than the one I posted. No one, here, knows who the email was sent to or how replied to me, other than it was from PCSO. I was also, only trying to prove, the relationship was innocent in nature, involving only friendship. If nothing else, I assumed or hoped it would clear them of any wrong doing….and the photo of me, I can post anywhere, anytime, because it’s me, correct? I am just so sensitive and wear my heart on my sleeves….my intentions here were to only blog re: the haleigh case, and it got out of hand and turned into a circus, free for all. I don’t understand why all the secrecy re: me being friends with anyone at PCSO? I didn’t reveal anything that isn’t common or public knowledge. Never the less, with everything else going on in my life right now (involving my illness) I just wanted to try clearing my name with the bloggers on this form by providing truth to my blogs, without revealing who the true friend is. It doesn’t matter, they are seeing this as a type of betrayal also and a breach of trust, I am sure….but I was never told that I couldn’t say we were friends….I never knew there was a reason to hide the fact…We’re friends on FB as well…(or, we were,,,unless they’ve deleted that also) I guess I lost all around on this one. Cut my losses and walk away. It’s almost 2am, I am sick, feeling horrible, and can’t sleep because I lost a very good friend due to some stupid BS, that really meant nothing. This is my 2nd battle with cancer now in less than 5 years….first Leukemia, and that almost killed me….and now this…sometimes I wonder if the fight is really worth it anymore. And I will tell you one more thin…Anyone who knows me personally, knows that I would never intentionally abuse or mistreat someone on purpose. that’s it. I was truly trying to give LE a boost with my comments, not me the boot from them. So be it, live and learn….And I think I have truly lived enough now and learned all I care to learn any longer at this point. Good day and good luck to all of you throughout. I hope justice truly does come to haleigh and her family….soon
My Opinion Only….IMO, it was due to how upset you were and possibly some things you had said in that post would have done more harm than good, if you know what I mean.
Try to take care of yourself and your little ones. I don’t believe anyone wants you to suffer, especially a life threatening illness.
Trust me when I say that I do know what it’s like to get carried away with the blog and say more than you should or wish later you hadn’t said something. It happens.
email me if you’d like to talk… HollysGmom@yahoo.com
Karon Cox said,in February 27th, 2010 at 12:38 am — the video you are looking for —
Search for – Haleigh Cummings Mother Crystal Sheffield on Geraldo Part 1 on You tube for the video you are referring to. Take note, that in the last 2 minutes of the video, the producers put Ron’s & Misty’s comments from subsequent interviews with the news media, at the very end of the 911 call, sort of like a montage, just after a portion of the 911 call is played. I think that’s what led to thinking they were comments during the 911 call, but they’re not, imo.
Well, I’m not at all surprised of Art’s being a hired hand, Cobra hired him to promote his image, so why would it be so hard for us to believe that he was hired and would have to be by Momma, to promote and repair Crystal’s image. The thing that blows my mind, is that these people need to hire someone to make them look better.. Thats why KP was originally brought on, to handle the media, and make Crystal look like a good Mother, and suddenly she was there to act as an Attorney to file a child custody suit, identical to the one that had been filed in Dec, and had already been investigated.. Talk about determination to get a job done. Why would this have occurred, because Ron married Misty!! Don’t believe that, Well when you realize the the day Ron married Misty, Crystal spent in tears, and KP was hired.
Is that too hard to put together, its not rocket science!! all of the these months, Art has worked dilligently to nail Ronald and Misty, well its the same thing that MG has been doing.. Yea, I know that as a fact.. So it flows hand n hand..
I kept asking myself, if Cobra and Kim P were no longer employed or associated with the bio-moms family, why do they still keep popping up?
Neither one are out there looking for Haleigh!!
Both seem to appear in strange positions, but clearly KP still has fingers in the pie in defense of Crystal.. Why?? Whereas, Cobra seemed to be a bit confused in his last radio appearance, didn’t seem to be up to date on Crystal and her drug testing, and he blew it off with one comment.. and it doesn’t go away…
“I even seen her Daddy give her Drugs!!”, well if that doesn’t throw JS under the bus, big time involved in drugs.. what does??? WERE YOU LISTENING PCSO?? So, we have Cobra dumping on JS and Art throwing them both under the bus, We have KP throwing art under the bus, and now Art throwing KP under the bus. It must be getting crowded under that blooming bus. Needless to say, Leonard doesn’t really know if he’s under the bus or not!! My thoughts on Leonard versus the Anthony’s.. hey those people are just waiting, relocation time is coming.. they don’t want the big white elephant around their necks when it time to jump in the vehicle and relocate. Thats it.. Where will they go, If they were smart, head out with Leonard to California, maybe Daddy A. can get a job with LAPD…
mlee said,in February 27th, 2010 at 8:42 am Well, I’m not at all surprised of Art’s being a hired hand, Cobra hired him to promote his image, so why would it be so hard for us to believe that he was hired and would have to be by Momma, to promote and repair Crystal’s image. The thing that blows my mind, is that these people need to hire someone to make them look better..
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ANYONE caught in this kind of situation, guilty or innocent or in-between needs professional help to handle the media. It should be looked at that people are innocent until proven guilty but it usually isn’t. Particularly because of people in the general public who pick sides according to whom they think they like for whatever reason.
Maybe you are personally acquainted with some of these people?
Anyone in such a position who can but doesn’t get this kind of help would be stupid, and somehow I don’t think Marie Griffis is stupid. Actually, it is quite obvious that some people resent the fact that she isn’t.
I have watched (I believe) all the videos of Marie and Crystal, and from my perspective, everything looks reasonable with they way they have spoken and acted under the circumstances. (And yes, that includes the one with the discussion about finding Haleigh face down in the canal.) But not many people have been involved in such unusual circumstances. I have, and it gives me a very different perspective, I suppose.
Of course they know and suspect certain things. They know about things that have been going on, and they aren’t being stupid telling the world right now.
So, they are guilty — of not being stupid.
Just my opinion.
Does anyone know:
In the State of Florida, if a person is paying child support, is the check mailed directly to the custodial parent or is it mailed to a government office and forwarded? I’m probably a little behind the times on some of these things….
Good morning, Everyone!
Hi, Alethea! I agree that any average person finding themselves in the public eye like this needs help handling the media. To me that was never the problem. The problem is that it was Art Harris who took the job. And his true role was not made clear.
Being a “spokesperson, media consultant, public relations consultant, publicist, image-maker” whatever you want to call it is a WHOLE DIFFERENT thing than being a “special correspondent/journalist/reporter producer” which is what Art is known as being and has always been (if you check out his bio on his web site). His two emmy’s are for being an investigative correspondent. Not for being a hired spokesperson or media-consultant.
Unfortunately his NEW role in this case was a 180 degree change from what he’s known for and no one knew it at the time. And I think people feel tricked.
While reading his website articles or listening to him on NG people thought they were hearing an unbiased journalist report on the matter. But they were not. Unbeknownst to the public, we were hearing from a HIRED GUN! Someone paid to slant the info in favor of whoever was paying him. Art damaged his own image and credibility by doing that.
I still don’t know whether he’s back to being an unbiased reporter now or if he’s someones media consultant or if someone is paying him to slant the news in their favor.
If he’d been open and honest at the time about his role then it would be different. But we found out later. So I think that’s the problem.
https://askdor.state.fl.us/FAQ/FAQDetails.aspx?ID=9
If its like here in Tn,the check is mailed to the state and they pay you! I don’t know much about it,lol
Good mowwwnin!!
Hi, m2c♥! You have a point there. In a way, I guess it’s kind of like NG trying to be a prosecutor and a journalist at the same time. People in certain professions really should be careful about conflict of interest.
Right M2, I don’t care for the guy myself,he reported that big fight where ron had supposedly thrown Mistys clothes in the yard,they were in a bag she sat down to hug him and he was carrying bags too!
Is it not perhaps possible that Kim Picazio’s role was not clear to them, either? I think I can see how they might feel that way.
Hi, alethea! That’s right.
Of course Art is a free-lancer and can take what jobs he wants – reporter jobs or spokesperson/media consultant jobs or anything.
But he should have let people know that he was NOT a “reporter” at that time.
Because with his background and the kind of work he was known for, he was naturally perceived as a reporter and his articles and appearances on NG were perceived that way – a much different perception than if we’d known he was someone’s spokesperson/media consultant.
m2c, very well explained!! instead of the bald truth it was bold deception.
alethea: I think KP took on the job to help bio-mom’s side look good in the media. No question. It’s not “clearing” them. It’s just making sure that no bad publicity gets out. It’s spinning stories to make them look good and make others look bad. And all of that extended into the custody issue which is what I think MG had in mind all along. Have you read KP’s response to the Bar complaint. It’s very interesting reading.
I read KP’s response to the bar complaint a few weeks ago (and I probably should go back and re-read it), and I got the impression that she felt she was acting as a media consultant and they were expecting her to behave as an attorney in regards to her duty to her client. Have I misunderstood something?
I guess I should go back and re-read it.
One thing is certain. They would have been better off with someone else.
mlee, the consequences of KP being on the scene are huge and caused a mountain of events, twists and turns. We will never know the full effects of KPs involvement that have hindered or prevented finding Haleigh. It is tragic how much of this case Haleigh has not been the priority.
alethea: I agree. It is confusing. All of it.
Did Cobra bring KP in? If so, why? She IS a lawyer. If all the bio-mom’s side needed was a media consultant, then why KP? Except maybe she really wanted to get involved? And there again (like with Art) was she a media consultant or a lawyer? Everything she did and said carried more weight because everyone knew she’s a lawyer! But when it got down to actually doing any “lawyering” (as in filing for custody) she did not do it.
Fuzzy lines (all over the place). All of it messing up the investigation into what happened to Haleigh (IMO).
alethea and Treece – I agree!
I’m going to have to go now. I’ll try to re-read that bar complaint response later. Nice talking to all of you.
alethea, ok, hope you have a good Saturday. ttyl
Happy Saturday, all.
Can someone help me find the video from shortly after Haleigh went missing where MG says she feels like Haleigh is alive and in another state? Alabama, maybe, or another — can’t remember what states she said now.
Thanks.
I remember it, I think she said Georgia.
thewoodlanddark said,in February 27th, 2010 at 11:57 am Happy Saturday, all.
Georgia and Alabama
I watched it this morning,lemme check!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcMkLE5fhk0&feature=related
Found it finally!lol
Associatedcontent.com
I am not sure but i wanna say i cannot find it verified so take it the way you wanna.lol I forget who asked for it!
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Where the overkill seems most damning is with respect to Misty’s statements about washing Haleigh’s blanket.
When police arrived at the Cummings home at approximately 3:25 a.m. February 10 to respond to the report that Haleigh Cummings was missing, the washing machine was running.
If Misty Cummings, the only person over the age of 5 in the house, had been in bed sleeping from 10 pm until she woke up shortly after 3 am and discovered Haleigh missing, why was the washing machine on?
In a Today Show interview in March, Misty Croslin Cummings said that she washed Haleigh’s blanket 7 ½ hours earlier- at 8 pm- and put the clean blanket on a sleeping Haleigh about 10 pm when Misty went to bed herself.
Another, take it with a grain of sea salt!
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On June 21, 2009 Art Harris, who sometimes appears on CNN, claimed that he talked to a woman named “Barbara” from Texas who completely satisfied Sheffield’s $12,000 child support debt. It cannot be reported by WIA that Harris ‘reported’ his information, because he did not use the person’s last name and therefore verification of the story cannot be secured.
The un-identified person paying Sheffield’s child support, according to Harris, gave the money to Picazio who then made Sheffield’s child support payments.
On his website, arthariss.com, Harris refers to the person paying the child support as an “investor.” What exactly the un-identified person is “investing” in is not known.
The first child support payment (investment) to Picazio from the investor was $2,000. The second payment was $2,100. The third and final payment was $8, 317.94. Why the payments came in such an erratic pattern from an individual who supposedly had enough extra cash lying around to pay a stranger’s child support is not known.
CathyJo, thanks for the info. I can’t find the video but I did find the transcript so that’ll do for now. I do want to hear her say it again — it’s been months since I’ve seen that clip, but it struck me. It seems such a strange thing to say. I’ve always wondered if it struck LE as odd.
It feels like things are moving at a snail’s pace again.
Hi, CathyJo – Where did the article come from that you posted @ 12:45? TIA
Also I don’t think AssociatedContent is a credible “news source.” Anyone can write there and who knows where they get (or make up) theiir info? At least that’s the impression that I have of it. To me it’s like quoting from a blogger. (Unless there is a lot more to that story you posted at 12:39) Do you know if there was more? Or a credible source?
Good Morning All. Anything new?
M2C…I hope you saw my posts from last night.
Hi, JB!
I was hoping to run into you! Yes, I did see your posts. Thanks so much. No worries! I’m humming Kumbaya (quietly) and passing around the chocolates!
Hey M2C – glad you saw my posts. And HOPEFULLY the cattle drive is over and has moved on to greener pastures!
Then again, TH seems to be willing to go all the way with what he believes, filing corruption complaints and all against the PCSO.
I think the “fake” photo stuff is just silly, though.
CathyJo63 said,in February 27th, 2010 at 12:39 pm Associatedcontent.com
I am not sure but i wanna say i cannot find it verified so take it the way you wanna.lol I forget who asked for it!
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Thats why i added the warning m2!
I dunno how else to do it,people ask for the articles and all i can do is say take it with salt??
thewoodlanddark said,in February 27th, 2010 at 1:06 pm CathyJo, thanks for the info.
It feels like things are moving at a snail’s pace again.
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thewoodlanddark said,
in February 27th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Happy Saturday, all.
Can someone help me find the video from shortly after Haleigh went missing where MG says she feels like Haleigh is alive and in another state? Alabama, maybe, or another — can’t remember what states she said now.
Thanks.
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don’t think this is the one you are looking for but it’s way interesting, to say the least.
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090213/VIDEO/902130306&template=video
M2,I know that m2 but we have all talked about this plenty and we have discussed many times the fact that the only thing out there is hearsay or what someone else posted,credible we dunno,as there are no facts yet?? Unless you know something i don’t!
It could be like this for as long as the parties are in jail and when they are in prison they may not speak then either.
Someone better tell them that there is not statute of limitations on Murder.(if that is what happened). LE may be waiting to talk to them after they are sentenced for the drugs.
Right now its all up to the lawyers to work on a deal if they have anything to deal with. I know Mistys lawyer went for a jury trial but did Rons? I didnt see anything on it except that he plead not guilty. jmo
yes, tobias Terry is going for a jury trial.
2010-02-17 15 WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND
2010-02-17 15 FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY:TERRY J SHOEMAKER (FAX)
2010-02-17 17 FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY:TERRY J SHOEMAKER (ORIGINAL)
2010-02-18 16 ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010
2010-02-19 17 WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND
2010-02-23 18 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
2010-02-23 19 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
They are also going to be tried in two different countys. Ron sold in Putnam and Flagler. Misty sold in Putnam and St. Johns.
That would mean two different courts and two different trials I would guess. Misty goes to court in March 8 in St. Johns( she already appeared for the first in Putnam). She will most likely plead not guilt then too. jmo
I would guess demand would be for evidence?
I wonder if the pleas are going to change after the lawyers watch the videos? Could be I guess we will have to watch and see. jmo
vaquera said,in February 27th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
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Very Interesting Vaq,in one breath she says Haleighs fine,she is just upset……..then she explains or tries to explain why she said Haleigh’s upset……she goes.well she’s upset,hurt and crying and wants her daddy………Wonder why she didn’t say her mommy first! just my opinion!
well which is it,she fine or upset…….sheesh!
vaquera said,in February 27th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
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Marie says “Haleigh’s fine, she’s just upset, but she’s going to be back with us” WTF, this is from 2009 on February 13th. WOWZA. I’ve never seen this video. Hmmmmm, just what does Marie know, or better yet, HOW does she know that Haleigh’s upset and upset about WHAT?
Hi, CathyJo! I wasn’t asking about it as a put down. I was wondering if maybe the AssociatedContent one was written by anyone we know?
I also wondered where the second posting came from? Also associatedcontent?
I had not looked up associatedcontent until today. It sounds real and reputable to me like Associated Press (AP) so I was kind of surprised to see what it really is.
I just wondered where they got their info? But maybe there is no way to know? Thanks.
CathyJo – Do you have links or titles or any way that I can look up those articles to read them in their entirety and see who wrote them?
Just interested. You know me. Always interested in the source of info.
Cruisin’ Susan said,in February 27th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Exactly,said i know she’s crying,i feel her pain…..gimme a break!
I had never seen that video before last week either and I was like, wow.
All the families still believe even now that Haleigh is alive and that someone has her. Sure she is going to be upset and crying for her mom and dad. That tape showed nothing more than a hope for a live Haleigh to me.
It is also better to focus on this for them then to think she is being mistreated or dead.
I admire their faith, I feel that is all they have for now. jmo
I had never seen it either! I found a weird one earlier,see if i can find it,what is it with these ppl??
Hiya Gang!!
Vaq, very interesting footage… indeed!!!
I hate to say it but MG kinda reminds me of one of those religious snake-handlers cult-members.
***I do respect all rights/kinds of Religious Worship***
I’m just sayin!!
vaquera said,in February 27th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
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Marie was so emphatic about Haleigh being upset, as in her actually observing Haleigh being upset first hand, rather than prefacing that statement with “probably” Haleigh is upset as in an opinion. Coupled now with recently viewing the video of Marie and Crystal with Shep Smith on FOX with the hand squeeze that many here were posting about, those words sure do make one stop and wonder.
http://origin.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=144221&catid=295
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I had never seen this one either!
Cruisin’ Susan said,in February 27th, 2010 at 2:31 pm vaquera said,in February 27th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Thats the impression i got,like she slipped up !!
Could it also be if they dont say they hope she is alive people will quit looking for her? Remember they want everyone to believe she is alive. If they had her hid somewhere they would say she is with god and someone harmed her. something to that effect would cause people not to search because they would be led to beleive she was dead. jmo
Thank you so much, Vaquera, for giving us that video. There is still so much to learn about this case!
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Interesting that at that point they were not blaming you know who and you know who else. JMO
I’m certainly not implying MG had anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. Her behavior is strange, I think. That’s all. As well as everyone else involved, MG has behaved/spoken strangely. Misty has said some doozies, too. I am suspicious of all involved.
Also still odd to me is the search of MG’s property. Was it just to clear the family’s name?
It sure does,in the video of sheppard smith,at the i believe 3:10 -3:15 mark you can actually see mg fidget bad,scratches her chin and rubs her hair…….just out of the ordinary to me!
And when ss asked how did she know Haleigh was taken,it knocked the air out of her i think!
i gotta watch that again!brb
Yes it was,they were ready,i have the article somewhere,sec
It could very well be a slip of the tongue, wishful thinking, hope!! Yet, to me it’s still a bit hinky, even tho I don’t believe that they’ve hidden HaLeigh.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/13/ng.01.html
Interesting,and they never gave cs a ld!
I’ll admit, though I subscribe to no particular theory at this time, that I often find myself leaning toward MG et al hiding her away — only because of all the possibilities my brain can conjure, this seems the most likely to have Haleigh alive and cared for somewhere out there. So my own hopes sneak in there and cloud my thinking. It broke my heart when TMiller said he believes Haleigh is dead. That must have been discouraging for the families to hear.
I’m hanging on to the hope!!
Some people even when they are told that a loved one is dead can not come to terms with it unless they see the person at the funeral.
My Aunt was killed in a car wreck and had a closed casket, after the funeral my father asked to see her so he could be sure it was her, he said without this he would always wonder.
The only reason I said this is because Hope is all they have and after a year unless someone can prove she is indeed dead they will always wonder. jmo
The really weird thing that stil bothers me is Misty and the red rose. What was that all about and how did she know the plastic rose was there unless she put it there? jmo
True Tobias!!
I think the thoughts/reactions to that particular clip hits a nerve because it’s sort of reminiscent of Casey/Cindy. Then you have Misty saying God hasn’t told her yet (paraphrasing.
I am a believer of the “Soul Connection”, I do think that some can feel when loved ones are no longer “here” or if they are in spirit. Had I really paid attention to this vid when it was taped, I probably would have dismissed it as a family having the Hope that they should have!!
tobias — indeed! I think that was one of the most unsettling things Misty said in the earlier days. I read about it — but never saw that part of the video, somehow. I’d like to, if anyone knows where I can find it — the part about the rose, specifically. If it’s the “hypnosis” video, I must have missed that part. I found the gun-in-the-mouth statement from Misty to be utterly weird, as well.
Tobias, someone explained the rose thing, I can’t remember it all.
Also, could someone point me to more info about the plastic rose, such as where it was found?
BA, Lets just play with the theory that they have her hid. Wouldnt they be trying at some point to have it perceived that Haleigh is dead? That way everyone would be less likely to be watchful and looking everywhere for her?
Yet they still say they have faith that she is alive somewhere. That is why I have doubts as to the hidden theory. I do hope she is alive but I am too logical to truely believe it. jmo
Misty knows NOTHING! She is a scapegoat being setup by an inept Barney Fife police dept. to distract from their bungled investigation. These buffoons couldn’t find their own arses without a compass.
I’d love to know about the red rose,was on phone,sorry
It was either Ron’s mom or grandma that said that rose was on some property behind their house and looked like it had just blown there from someone’s trash. The area was a place that Ron and Misty had searched and would have seen that rose a number of times. This doesn’t explain why it would have been significant to Misty but would show that she had seen the rose at that location during a search.
I mean honestly,think about it,she told them where the rose was,they found the rose………so wth??
ill find it for ya,sec
Treece, Why would Misty think Haleigh was on TN or GGMS property? It never made any sense to me why she gave this impression. Why was her statement taken out of the video of her hypnosis too? jmo
After Misty mentioned the rose the area was searched again and nothing was found.
Much more confusing then the rose was that fake search that Cobra told about.
Treece, Those keys that showed up were very interesting though.Werent they from NayNays car that got towed to the junk yard? Why were they there and how did they get there? jmo
And too though,why would they not call the SO to come look when they did?
I dunno,but i have HEARD..lol that those were at the fake search,mens socks,keys,glove and an inhaler!
yes,cobra tried them in naynays car and cobra said the le wouldn’t accept the keys!
Cathy are you talking about the sheds? Cause the fake search was the one with the New Foundland dog when they found an old glove and NayNays keys. jmo
Wait… which was the fake search? With GGMS?
tobias at 3:09 pm
Sorry, was not ignoring you, just slipped away to read a British Mag. Yes, I suppose that they would need to produce/manufacture some sort of evidence… making it look that way. One of the reasons I don’t see them hiding HaLeigh is because of her sudden “re-appearance” explanation. Yes, Jaycee’s discovery is one way to go about it, wait a bunch of years. But with that bunch, I don’t see them pulling it off.
At mg place,crystals mom!
No Tobias,ill get it,it was near the water somewhere,sec
tobias said,
in February 27th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
The really weird thing that stil bothers me is Misty and the red rose. What was that all about and how did she know the plastic rose was there unless she put it there? jmo
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she knew because, believe it or not, family still has been searching. it’s really a non issue anyway. the area was searched in the beginning and researched after that came to light. nothing was found
Tobias, sorry my computer froze up. I didn’t make my statement clear. TN or GGmS said that search with the rose was had happened behind ROn and Misty’s house.
Didnt they eventually take the keys? I think they did after he had them for a couple of days on his dash. I may be wrong but thats what I am remembering darn wished I could remember which program it was that he talked about it. jmo
Not the last i heard Tobias,they refused and Cobra said the glove was just an old work glove and wasnt bloody! There was a suitcase!It was mg and some others who set that search up is what i have HEARD and read!
Be back later, gang… chest cold!!!
Treece, It doesnt matter whose property it was on I was just trying to point out that by her statement she was saying Haleigh was dead and her body was with the red rose. Now she says she feels she is alive and god will bring her home but he hasnt sent her a sign. Could be she is working on a possible insanity plea? jmmo
the fake search was in San Mateo. Marie/Bruce, Johnny/Connie, BLSTARKE and her dog,John Regan. The items founds were,to begin with, a supposedly bloody glove, toys, inhaler, a scrap of cloth with either rust or blood, and then a suitcase just popped out of nowhere and in it was a bus schedule. John Regan called cobra instead of pcso and John R bagged up the stuff and put it in his vehicle. Later Connie supposedly found the keys on the side of the road. Supposedly they were led to this area by some psychic, whether that is true or not I don’t know. it was the weekend of the burger cookout at HBC
but the rose still don’t make sense,if she told the hypnotist that! IDK
GRRRR PHONE,LOL
tobias said,
in February 27th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Treece, Those keys that showed up were very interesting though.Werent they from NayNays car that got towed to the junk yard? Why were they there and how did they get there? jmo
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supposedly Amber had Nay Nay’s car and got it stuck out there at the fake search site days or a week before the search.
Cobra has never said how he knew they were Nay Nay’s keys to begin with.
tobias,
Misty’s statement may have implied that Haleigh was dead, but Misty never said she thinks Haleigh is dead.
Argh, how could I forget about Amber? Such a mess.
To me the million dollar question is WHY? Why would they stage the fake search in the first place? What were they wanting people to think from it??
vaquera said,in February 27th, 2010 at 3:34 pm tobias said,
in February 27th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Treece, Those keys that showed up were very interesting though.Werent they from NayNays car that got towed to the junk yard? Why were they there and how did they get there? jmo
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supposedly Amber had Nay Nay’s car and got it stuck out there at the fake search site days or a week before the search.
Cobra has never said how he knew they were Nay Nay’s keys to begin with
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Yep and to my understanding Cobra oftered the keys to LE and they didnt want them. Correct me if i am wrong.
Amber reminds me of something else unsettling about Misty — the MySpace message re: got your man, will get your baby (paraphrasing) that Misty left on Amber’s page.
Why, if Misty didn’t want to be caring for two children would she want to take on a third (and a special needs child, at that?) Crazy. And mean.
On the other hand, didn’t it seem LC and TC’s son seemed more interested to visit Misty than his father?
treece said,in February 27th, 2010 at 3:42 pm To me the million dollar question is WHY? Why would they stage the fake search in the first place? What were they wanting people to think from it??
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They wanted to make it apear that Haleigh was dead imo. What else would be the answer to this question?
I’ll check in later to see if anything new has surfaced, though it seems doubtful on the weekend.
Best to all.
Ann, how would it point to her being dead? I think they were just trying to look like they were searching for evidence. jmo
AnneInTn, I agree all the “evidence” from the fake search would lean towards saying Haleigh was dead and tying it to Nay Nay which would go back to Misty.
Well the program tomorrow may be interesting if someone has made any new info available. jmo See ya all later.
According to Cobra there was “planted” evidence. Why would the want FAKE evidence?
tobias, why would the plant evidence to look like they were searching? Why would they want to distract LE from really searching and finding Haleigh??
I have been asked why I am so adamant in believing Ronald and Misty are innocent. It is a method I use or perhaps it would be viewed as a method, to me its just what I know. Have you ever wondered how a blind person is able to know when they are being lied to when someone speaks to them? Have you wondered how specific fighters learn to block punches in the dark? Can you walk into a gymnasium blind folded where people are standing motionless and silently. Have someone guide you to a chair in the middle of the room, have the lights out and nail exactly where those people are standing? Ronald and Misty are innocent if people knew how to do the above they would know Ronald and Misty are innocent. I never listen to their audio’s or 911 calls with my eyes open. I am 100% absolute in this, they are innocent
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
I think they had a fake one so the real one wouldn’t be needed! they knew they were being searched…?? first!
i know it sounds crazy but what other reason,they if guilty of anything………wanted the evidence to go in a diff direction! MG asked for that ladies dog,she hired Cobra and cobra said himself,they were up to something!
I don’t trust them!
Vaq,he tried them on naynays car,they fit!
Hi, folks, just popped in for a minute.
It seems to me that Cobra did explain about the keys–I think it was on one of the broadcasts.
And why is it I don’t seem to have any problem believing that someone might believe a psychic? Lots of people do. A lot of people have “supernatural” experiences, angelic visitations, feel that the Lord is trying to tell them something, etc.
Have to leave again for now.
Just my opinion.
I agree Ann! They did!they knew ron owned a boat too,so plant the suitcase,sox,ticket and all that by the water!
I am sorry but i to keep saying if my Grandson went missing,would i give his shoes away…….come on!
I’d come closer to making a necklace out of them before i’d give them away!
That video a second ago,it was weird,did you watch it Ann? Vigil that MG led!that is really weird!
I do too but i think they should have got the le to help,or come look before moving the evidence?? What,like cindy….they didn’t want the kidnapper caught?
tobias said,in February 27th, 2010 at 3:48 pm Ann, how would it point to her being dead? I think they were just trying to look like they were searching for evidence. jmo
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IF Sheffields took Haleigh to hid her this fake search would make it look like someone killed her but it didnt happen this way. jmo
Well, I certainly hope Haleigh is alive and well but it makes me sad to think the end result might be she and Junior could get split up.
Really have to go now.
CathyJo63 said,in February 27th, 2010 at 4:15 pm Vaq,he tried them on naynays car,they fit!
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Yes they fit her car but didnt Cobra offer keys to LE and they didnt want these keys. WHY?
why would johnny sheffield say,they can’t touch him in ky??
Yes he did Ann,and the guy said no he did not want them!he tried several times!
Thats why they got rid of Cobra!
CathyJo63 said,in February 27th, 2010 at 4:26 pm why would johnny sheffield say,they can’t touch him in ky??
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Cathy I agree. Its like he told on his self to me.LOL PCSO HOPE YOUR READING THIS. Go get him.
On June 21, 2009 Art Harris, who sometimes appears on CNN, claimed that he talked to a woman named “Barbara” from Texas who completely satisfied Sheffield’s $12,000 child support debt. It cannot be reported by WIA that Harris ‘reported’ his information, because he did not use the person’s last name and therefore verification of the story cannot be secured.
The un-identified person paying Sheffield’s child support, according to Harris, gave the money to Picazio who then made Sheffield’s child support payments.
On his website, arthariss.com, Harris refers to the person paying the child support as an “investor.” What exactly the un-identified person is “investing” in is not known.
The first child support payment (investment) to Picazio from the investor was $2,000. The second payment was $2,100. The third and final payment was $8, 317.94. Why the payments came in such an erratic pattern from an individual who supposedly had enough extra cash lying around to pay a stranger’s child support is not known.
Shortly before HaLeigh Cummings disappeared on February 10, 2009, Sheffield had received a letter in the mail instructing her to appear in court regarding her un-paid child support. In the state of Florida the consequences for non-payment of child support can be loss of driving privileges and/or jail. A few days after Sheffield received the letter, HaLeigh Cummings disappeared from her home with no sign of struggle.
Shortly after the child’s disappearance, Sheffield and her mother, Marie Griffis, the future president and vice president of the Haleigh Bug Foundation, appeared on FOX News to be interviewed by Geraldo Rivera. Griffis said she believed HaLeigh had been taken out of Florida.
>>>> “I have no idea why, but I know HaLeigh is fine, but I don’t feel HaLeigh’s… I don’t feel HaLeigh here in this area – she’s not here – she’s, she’s somewhere else – someone has got her and has transported her out of Florida and something just keeps – it stays in my mind constantly, Georgia Alabama – Georgia Alabama.”
In another televised interview, Griffis said she believed HaLeigh is ok but no one is going to see her for a while. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Despite HaLeigh Bug Foundation President Marie Griffis’ public statements that she believed HaLeigh Cummings was alive and well in a location unknown, the foundation she administers has yet to fund a single search for the missing child. Menawhile, nobody knows where the money has gone. <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Ruby Kanger, mother-in-law to Johnny Sheffield, the child’s grandpa, told Write Into Action that HaLeigh Bug has never sponsored one search.
They need to take the whole bunch in!!It’s ridiculous Ann!
MG and cs acts calm as can be,i havent heard of em ask to plead in the media?? Atleast Ron did do that!
On June 15, 2009 WIA reported that Picazio had stated the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department (PCSD) did not search her client’s property because her client was not a suspect. “A month after me getting in the case I had to give [the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department] the address of [Crystal Sheffield’s] house [because] they hadn’t been there yet,” Picazio said.
Picazio boasted the same claim on national TV during the May 8 airing on the Jane Valez Mitchell show. “And I can say that with regard to my client, who is a parent (of the missing child), the cops haven’t even gone out to investigate her house. They haven’t even done a thorough investigation. So, I don’t think that they are looking at her side of the family as the bad guy,” she said.
I can’t ccp anymore for awhile,lol M2 will be so mad at me,lol
I think some people know alot more than they should!
Exactly,Ann.why would he even think about that?
can’t touch him!
CathyJo you have many good questions, wish we had the answers to them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn2BGTooZ2E&feature=related
Ann,listen!
I know Treece,you and me….well all of us but man they gotta stop these games!
To be honest this thing is a mess,and why? A little girl is missing and theyve got her family in jail who i am againt starting to think are innocent,my gosh….somebody woulda broke….i know i would!
that last link is about ms and naynay and keys!
Hi, CathyJo! Think of the devil and she pops up, right? LOL! Considering the source of the info you just posted, you might want to ask Jan if it’s okay for a number of reasons. One is copyright issues. Some authors and publishers are VERY sticky about that. The other is that THIS author is VERY litigious.
So just a suggestion to maybe speak with Jan before copying and pasting any more from that particular source. JMO.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!I Knew it M2! i DID HONEST!!!!!!
But not the devil,no.she’s in jail already!
Hiya Gang!!
I’m back for just a few minutes at a time… this chest cold is kicking my butt. Now I’m having a difficult time swallowing food. Go figure.
Cathy, I wanted to say that you are correct, I also believe that there are some folks that know way more than they should. And I resent them for it! It seems as though this is/was some sick game, to see who could keep it going the longest!! Just my thoughts!
OhhBoy,i quit for good!
What do you do? point your tv antenna toward the blog? lol
And let’s not forget that Marie & Crystal also hired Dominic Casey, and he was involved in the search.
Watching the video of Marie at the vigil really creeped me out. I’ve always thought she might be trying to pull a Cindy Anthony and make money out of this, and that video made me feel even more strongly about that. What a shame they weren’t properly investigated at the beginning.
Me too Adam’s,its BS is what it is and God forbid on the off days that we can discuss much……ya know…honest….since i am one of the bloggers here who has time to burn,i live alone,no family to cook for and all that and i know that most of you do and when i ccp i am merely trying to be helpful,ask HGM,she was busy as a bee when she started her forum and i worked alot just helping because i wanted to help her b/c i knew she cared about Haleigh!!and she didn’t even know i was going too
I don’t want oooohh and ahhhhhs,i am only saying it because its like some people think i do it for the hell of it…..well i don’t…I do it for everyone here who don’t have as much time as I do!And i am trying to hang on,but dang enough already!
AnneInTn said,
in February 27th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Yep and to my understanding Cobra oftered the keys to LE and they didnt want them. Correct me if i am wrong
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that’s correct, Anne. They didn’t take the stuff bagged up out there either, of course it was all useless anyway because of who bagged it up. It was right after that the PCSO said they didn’t want the families to search anymore.
CathyJo – Was your 4:59 meant for me? I wasb’t getting after you in a mean way. Just trying to give you a heads up. There are things going on with that website and owner and I just thought it would be a good idea for you to find out what Jan thinks. You can email her. Nothing against you at all.
Cathy… what is CCP? you must remember that I am not well, and kinda medicated.;-)
you give me heads up every single time i post anything M2,you do!!Its like you wait for it!sorry but it does feel that way to me!
CathyJo – I am sorry I can’t seem to make clear why I am asking this of you. There are different reasons in different situations and you don’t seem to even want to understand. None of it is meant to criticize you. But if you just want to get angry with me about it instead of discuss it, then there is nothing I can do about it. If you were a member of the Forum here I could PM you about it if you wanted.
yes… beware the timothy holmseth weasel.
oops… can that be redacted?
CathyJo – There are different reasons why in each case. In one kind of situation, even Jan mentioned it. Then there are copyright issues which are both a legal matter and also just info (for readers to know the source if they want to read it all for themselves).
And then there’s this one particular website with different issues about it.
I am sorry that you think I’m bugging you but if three different people had posted those posts I would be trying to speak with all three. It’s not YOU!
I am tired of it M2,you treat me like a child!
I told Jan at anytime not to wait for my permission to delete what i post,its her blog M2! Everytime i post it happens,today is the first time..well the last hour is the firsst time i have added any of that sites articles but rest assured m2 you won!!I mean honstly,i dunno why it eats at you!!!!
Looking forward to the show tomorrow. Everyone take care and have a good evening.
CathyJo…you shouldn’t take it personally. I think Jan has posted on this point before. Perhaps you can email her for clarification rather than get upset with m2c, who is only trying to help! It’s not personal…it has to do with the author of the “article”, not you.
Cathy, yes, I know what you did at FF1 and I appreciate all you do. Please No Worries… okay?
Cathy, why do you put the burden on Jan – who is already as busy as a one-armed paper hanger – to take her time to investigate and read all your copy and pastes instead of learning a couple simple things and doing it appropriately in the first place? You are the one doing the copying and pasting, it’s your responsibility (IMO).
If you will read my posts you will see that it does not “eat at me.” I am trying to inform you about legal issues and such.
Thank you, Me.
I’ll see you all later maybe.
One more note. CathyJo this is NOT personal as Me pointed out. Not at all. Please stop making it so.
m2c♥ said,in February 27th, 2010 at 1:10 pm Hi, CathyJo – Where did the article come from that you posted @ 12:45? TIA
Also I don’t think AssociatedContent is a credible “news source.” Anyone can write there and who knows where they get (or make up) theiir info? At least that’s the impression that I have of it. To me it’s like quoting from a blogger. (Unless there is a lot more to that story you posted at 12:39) Do you know if there was more? Or a credible source?
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m2c♥ said,in February 27th, 2010 at 2:19 pm Hi, CathyJo! I wasn’t asking about it as a put down. I was wondering if maybe the AssociatedContent one was written by anyone we know?
I also wondered where the second posting came from? Also associatedcontent?
I had not looked up associatedcontent until today. It sounds real and reputable to me like Associated Press (AP) so I was kind of surprised to see what it really is.
I just wondered where they got their info? But maybe there is no way to know? Thanks.
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See what i’m saying m2,when i told you i added a warning then you acted like you weren’t getting on me,i think you can see that the 2nd comment didn’t have crap to do with the last one!
Cathy…. email me please!
Right Adams,I know….don’t worry about that,none of you guys should,its not your fault,i try to get along with everybody but when ya can’t ya can’t!
I have posted links and snippets of that site before and they were deleted so I just don’t post them anymore. 😀
Why do you worry about that??? You think i sit here and disrespect jan for the heck of it? I don’t think so!but you won’t have to worry..at all.its taken care of and i am not gonna sit here and argue and run everybody off!!!!
CathyJo:
Most articles are copyrighted. That means if you copy and paste any or all of that article somewhere else you are legally bound to include the credit. Often that can be as simple as “From wftv.com” or it can be the link to the article that the part you copied is from.
Such “credit” for the source is often also appreciated by the readers here who might like to go to that source to reall the whole article or see what else that source has to offer.
Like when I quote from articles on “wftv.com” there are often links to videos that no one here will see in the paragraph that I quote. But the reader here can go to wftv.com and see the videos and all the other articles but ONLY if I tell them that’s where the article came from.
The situation with WIA is a sensitive one for Jan and Simon. Out of respect for them, speak with Jan about it to get a clear understanding of their preference.
Now, do you see that this is not a matter of ME??? It’s not about me at all.
Oh and I think the other issue that Jan commented on was why copy and paste a really long article here, when you can just paste a paragraph and the link. That takes up less space here. It gives the readers an idea of the info you want them to see and tells them where they can go find it. So that was the other aspect.
Oh and CathyJo, I want to tell you that I really appreciate it when you and others bring info or refer us to info from other sources outside of BNN. I really do appreciate that because often I have not seen it.
All I’m saying is that how that is done is important. I hope I explained well enough why.
CathyJo63 said,in February 27th, 2010 at 4:32
About ALabama Georgia….that’s why I had thought my sighting might have been her. I live 15 miles from the ALabama state line and that day, that black car raced towards that ALabama line!
Cathy are you still here? If so pm or email me. Gotta call my Mommy about my cold/swallowing, BRB.
Hi, there’s a new post.
You are all starting to think like me. Marty is safe in Ky? Marie thinks Haleigh is ok? She feels Haleigh is in the Al/Ga area? The fake search??? The back door propped open? That sounds like someone needed to leave to door open to be able to come back in and get Jr. maybe??? So many questions that lead me back to this family… sorry but the drug story is not working for me. jmo
There is a NEW ARTICLE!
Haleigh Cummings – Caylee Anthony
Some Reflections
vaquera said,in February 27th, 2010 at 5:08 pm AnneInTn said,
in February 27th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Yep and to my understanding Cobra oftered the keys to LE and they didnt want them. Correct me if i am wrong
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that’s correct, Anne. They didn’t take the stuff bagged up out there either, of course it was all useless anyway because of who bagged it up. It was right after that the PCSO said they didn’t want the families to search anymore.
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Ruby Kanger bagged it up. WTH
CathyJo63 @ 5:23 – My comments and questions about the posts you quoted there are different than what I was talking about later. I was just discussing/chatting with you about that website which I saw for the first time today.
But those articles are good examples of how important it is to include the source when you bring something here because it helps the reader know how much credibility to give it. And they can go to that site and learn more about it.
The things I mentioned later were for different reasons.
HollysGMom:
Thanks for the support. I am not posting for responses, please. No need to change your constructive blogs on this case to start bashing. I am only letting HollysGMom know I emailed her. After you read the email, maybe you can at least let all of the bloggers on here, know the honest truth. Thanks
http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
Fair use is generally a short excerpt and almost always attributed. (One should not use much more of the work than is needed to make the commentary.) It should not harm the commercial value of the work — in the sense of people no longer needing to buy it (which is another reason why reproduction of the entire work is a problem.) Famously, copying just 300 words from Gerald Ford’s 200,000 word memoir for a magazine article was ruled as not fair use, in spite of it being very newsworthy, because it was the most important 300 words — why he pardoned Nixon.
Note that most inclusion of text in followups and replies is for commentary, and it doesn’t damage the commercial value of the original posting (if it has any) and as such it is almost surely fair use. Fair use isn’t an exact doctrine, though. The court decides if the right to comment overrides the copyright on an individual basis in each case. There have been cases that go beyond the bounds of what I say above, but in general they don’t apply to the typical net misclaim of fair use.
The “fair use” concept varies from country to country, and has different names (such as “fair dealing” in Canada) and other limitations outside the USA.
Facts and ideas can’t be copyrighted, but their expression and structure can. You can always write the facts in your own wordsthough
See the DMCA alert for recent changes in the law.
HollysGmom said,
in February 27th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
CathyJo63 said,in February 27th, 2010 at 4:32
About ALabama Georgia….that’s why I had thought my sighting might have been her. I live 15 miles from the ALabama state line and that day, that black car raced towards that ALabama line!
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was it a black mustang? I remember early on about a black mustang seen in the panhandle and it was related to a siting. I can’t remember the particulars of the siting though
To put it in simpler terms (just trying to be helpful):
IMO
1) Always include the source or a link to the source (this is called “attribution.”) Reasons: potential legal concerns, basic professional courtesy and info for readers who might want to view the source (website/article) itself or get an idea of the level of credibility of the material posted.
2) Don’t post long articles. Reasons: Space. And it’s just easier to post a paragraph from it and a link so people who are interested can go read it.
3) Not sure that copy and pastes from WIA are welcome here for a number of reasons – one of which from my personal point of view, is that person is very litigious! AND he’s been very accusatory towards some people who are friends of BNN.
m2c♥ said,in February 27th, 2010 at 6:15 pm CathyJo63 @ 5:23 – My comments and questions about the posts you quoted there are different than what I was talking about later. I was just discussing/chatting with you about that website which I saw for the first time today.
But those articles are good examples of how important it is to include the source when you bring something here because it helps the reader know how much credibility to give it. And they can go to that site and learn more
about it.
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The things I mentioned later were for different reasons.
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M2,Don’t be two faced,you know as well as i do you did,scroll…its the only subject after you entered so don’t pull that on me,anybody can see thats what you meant!and what you were referring to!!If you feel the need to harass and belittle someone then I’d just start my own blog!
And no you won’t ever have to worry about another post of mine,i will type only what i need to type and then i’ll use shorthand!!
But i won’t let someone run me off,I am here for Haleigh!!and I’m sorry we can’t be friends cause God know’s I’ve done everything but rub sugar in your hindend!!!
Cathy… are you registered for pm’ing?
Sorry All, I am just popping and have only read a few of the posts tonight. I just got an answer on a couple of questions I had about the 911 call (original). The answeres came from a retired, 30 year Vet of a Sheriff Dept. One thing in particular brough up was the original 911 transcript has no Date Stamps at the end of each transmission. They said that is not a full release of the transmission, which is public record, which means the 911 tape would have been REDACTED before it reached the public. This could have been done by PCSO, but they think more on the lines of FDLE or FBI. Which raises the question, WHY? They also pointed out that the tape had interesting info, such as a marked car at Tommy’s, if there is no time stamp at the end of the transmission, that may have been omitted due to witnesses. Please correct me if I am wrong, I could not find one 911 release with the times. Sorry for the inrtrusion or typos
Also, oops, I was typing really fast because I was excited. I have been waitin for the response for over a week (ask Hollys). Let me know if this makes sense and raises any questions. I think all the answers are right there….we just need to put the pieces together.
Also, wasn’t it a woman deputy at Tommy’s? That raised questions as well with the individual I was speaking with.
Hi, Blue Moon! That’s interesting! I never saw a transcript of the 911 call with times either.
Did the transmission from the patrol car that was at Tommy’s have times? I can’t remember.
I do wonder what the heck they redacted from either of those two things.
It looks like a REALLY quick cut and paste according to the person I spoke with. They said NO 911 goes out without a time stamp at the end of the transmission, even/especially in a missing persons case. What do you think?
And no, to your question, sorry.
Sorry to interrupt but I have to respond to CathyJo.
CathyJo – Really you have taken all of this the wrong way. I was not harrassing or belittling you. This stuff has been mentioned before on the blog long ago and then I thought again recently. It’s pretty standard way of doing things even on blogs. I thought you just didn’t know it.
And my responses to the first to posts were different. The first post of yours I mentioned, I discussed that I was surprised when I went to that site. I had thought it was a news site. I wsa chatting with you. That’s not a criticism of you.
The reason I asked what the source was for the second post of yours was that I did not see the source. At first. When I read it again a little while ago I finally realized that the source is mentioned IN the article with initials. I had not picked up on that before. So I’m sorry I missed that.
As far as the rest of it goes, I was just taking the opportunity to talk with you about copying and pasting. Letting you know some things about it which I thought you did not know. Some of the things are legal and may or may not matter on the net or maybe Jan and Simon don’t care about them. But they are standard practices in the press.
But even if no one cares about that, other aspects of naming the source are important to me personally and possibly to other bloggers. And one aspect was important to Jan (I think).
I tried to PM you on the BNN Forum but you are not a member it seems. So please please understand that this was not an attack. I was trying to help, I was asking for info that I personally would appreciate having when an article is posted.
I NEVER attacked you for this. But you call me names. YOU have turned what could have been a discussion into a fight that did not have to happen.
Despite your clear name-calling attack on me, I would like to put this behind us and be friends again.
Blue Moon,
Regarding the patrol car at Tommy’s, it looks as if the 911 operator addressed the officer and got no response. Which seems odd.
Are you saying it is likely that officer did respond but that response was redacted?
Blue Moon said,in February 27th, 2010 at 8:28 pm Also, wasn’t it a woman deputy at Tommy’s? That raised questions as well with the individual I was speaking with.
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Yes there was a women deputy at Tommys that nite and its no where to be found now.And when the call came in about Haleigh being missing this deputy was 2 blocks away to my understanding. Odd right?
This person (SD) is from FL, they said it is common practice in FL to record the times, they have never seen anything like the 911 trancripts released in this case. In fact, some of the codes were not even FULL codes, they deciphered them. We need to find a recent 911 transmission from FL for a Missing Child, compare them and go from there.
Cath said: Regarding the patrol car at Tommy’s, it looks as if the 911 operator addressed the officer and got no response. Which seems odd.
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OH, that is not ODD at all, I will gladly PM you the SD/RSP that “hunted” my brother. When they are BAD, they are BAD.
Yes Ann! Thanks for the confirm.
I’m sorry, it was not the 911 operator. It was the dispatcher that addressed the officer and got no response. Could that dispatch report have been redacted?
Yes, of course. That happens, quite frequently.
Blue Moon said,in February 27th, 2010 at 8:41 pm Yes Ann! Thanks for the confirm.
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LE deputy went there to Tommys that nite about a child . I just cant rememebr what for cuz there no info on that call now.
I think.
Sorry, I have been reading reports, etc., for two full days now and I am getting confused over where I saw things.
Anyway, the officer at Tommy’s gave their location, then did not respond.
I guess what I am asking is would Incident Reports, Dispatch Reports, 911 Calls, and just about everything else in any case likely ever be released anywhere in their entirety?
You all would be stunned out of your chair if you heard the 911 transmission in my familys case, sorry, I don’t want to bring it up again, I just want you all to know that this HAPPENS!! And when I showed my contact the 911 from Haleigh, it raised MANY questions.
Anne saidLE deputy went there to Tommys that nite about a child . I just cant rememebr what for cuz there no info on that call now.
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Exactly
I am going to officially join the forum so I can PM you all. You will be stunned what “LE” is capable of.
I understand why certain information is redacted, either to protect a case or to protect innocent persons or whatever. I just cannot figure out why the TIME of the incident would have to be redacted.
What would be the purpose of not including the time? How harmful might such info be if it were released?
Blue… So what is it that we need to locate exactly?
BA, I think what we need is an accurate timeline from LE for the night in question.
CathyJo63, have you actually located and verified a statement from pcso about the washing machine running when they arrived. I don’t think its on the police report, and i thought that it was more speculation than reality. I don’t think I have ever head anyone from pcso made the comment. Can you locate the info that verifies that?
We need to locate a current, or relatively current missting persons 911 tape..I don’t know have not looked yet. Maybe Somer’s..we need to be able to compare the two.
Cath, a lot
Thanks… Cathartic!!
Blue Moon said,
in February 27th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Sorry All, I am just popping and have only read a few of the posts tonight. I just got an answer on a couple of questions I had about the 911 call (original). The answeres came from a retired, 30 year Vet of a Sheriff Dept. One thing in particular brough up was the original 911 transcript has no Date Stamps at the end of each transmission. They said that is not a full release of the transmission, which is public record, which means the 911 tape would have been REDACTED before it reached the public. This could have been done by PCSO, but they think more on the lines of FDLE or FBI. Which raises the question, WHY? They also pointed out that the tape had interesting info, such as a marked car at Tommy’s, if there is no time stamp at the end of the transmission, that may have been omitted due to witnesses. Please correct me if I am wrong, I could not find one 911 release with the times. Sorry for the inrtrusion or typos
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That is what we learned/figured out back when they were released. There is something missing and they are no time stamps.
OK, thanks Vaq…WHAT is it then?
mlee said,
in February 27th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
CathyJo63, have you actually located and verified a statement from pcso about the washing machine running when they arrived. I don’t think its on the police report, and i thought that it was more speculation than reality. I don’t think I have ever head anyone from pcso made the comment. Can you locate the info that verifies that?
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Mlee I can’t tell you Kim P said it was not true. there was no washer running when PCSO got there.
IS anyone among our bunch a 911 Operator??
OR do you have someone you could ask? We are all going out on a whim here…
I have been trying to find where the transcripts were posted over at websleuths, no luck so far and the discussion was so long ago I just remember what was said but not much of the discussion. When I find the stuff I will tell you what it says or post something.
Thanks Vaq
mlee said,in February 27th, 2010 at 9:05 pm CathyJo63, have you actually located and verified a statement from pcso about the washing machine running when they arrived. I don’t think its on the police report, and i thought that it was more speculation than reality. I don’t think I have ever head anyone from pcso made the comment. Can you locate the info that verifies that?
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beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 27th, 2010 at 5:10 pm Cathy… what is CCP?
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cut,copy,paste!
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2009/2/12/haleigh_911_transcript_part_1.html
What about Somer THmopson’s case? Any 911 call released there?
Thanks Cathy @9:54…. Yes, now I know. Forgive that clouded moment. Heee… I will blame that on my sister’s hot-tottie mixture. I think she wants me to sleep!
Radio calls TJ’s report
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5173311.php
Yes Hollys, have not been able to find anything
Well, I am starting to think the only reason to redact the TIME of a call is for the protection of either 911 or LE. I am not saying this is the case here, only that I have to consider it.
911 is usually a county agency. Maybe there is a difference in how each county does things.
We had a case here where a 911 operator did not take a call seriously and even that call info was released in full even though it clearly showed the 911 operator’s errors.
The person that I spoke with seems to think LE (PCSO) had the Strings on this tape….We all could be wrong though..
AnneInTn said,in February 27th, 2010 at 10:10 pm 911 call
FLE2: I’m available at 116 Tyler.
OP: 116 Tyler? (static) 26.
MLE1: What’s going on at 116?
FLE2: 1256.
OP: Go head.
FLE2: 10:08 from this location, going 97, back to Green.
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5173311.php
In Tommy’s criminal dockets, there’s a charge for a dog causing a disturbance, the date of the incident was 2/10/09, I wonder if that is why the female officer was there that night, I doubt it, but there was a disturbance call to PCSO.
The weirdest thing of the whole 911 Tapes is the statement the female officer made…..”she was last seen an hour and a half, to two hours ago”
She was at Tyler St., a male officer asked her why she was there, no response?? (or none that we heard.
I’d also like to know how Cobra knew those were NayNay’s car keys, and how he knew to bring that fella along with him to video tape him trying the keys on her car.
I really wish those that had valuable information would share it with the FBI. It’s time for the truth from EVERYBODY.
Well, maybe a dog barked? At something??? Or someone, doing whatever at 3 AM?
The Croslins don’t have a dog, do they? Or did they?
Noreen said,in February 27th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
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Hmm i thought that call was to do with a child.? I have waht kind of call is was but cant fine it.
Blue Moon said,in February 27th, 2010 at 10:27 pm The person that I spoke with seems to think LE (PCSO) had the Strings on this tape….We all could be wrong though..
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Well imo I will never belive we are wrong. jmo
Noreen, I agree with you everyone with info needs to tell the whole truth. Haleigh needs to become the priority here.
It was an animal complaint.
Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2009-02-27 1 LOCAL ORD CITN: #09-1334 (02-10-09) PCSO/R CLARKE
2009-02-27 1 PUBLIC ANIMAL NUSIANCE
2009-02-27 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 03/12/2009
2009-02-27 2 OFFICER’S REPORT
2009-04-17 3 $57.00 LOCAL ORDINANCE FINE PAID
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php
I hope not Ann
Yep Noreen!!
Blue Moon,
On the 911 tape, does it give the Officer’s name?
Was R. Clarke one of the responding officers to the MH that night?
Weird that the citation for the Animal Nusiance, doesn’t appear to have been issued until 17 days after the incident.
No Noreen, just the code for the officer. I can look it up, but off the top of my head it is 1256. That is really another question…that is part of a code, but yet COULD be a call back..not sure.
http://www.apsu.edu/oconnort/polcodes.htm
Here are police codes!
No doubt SOMETHING happened there that night.I WILL NOT LEAVE until I know what happened to this baby..
Blue Moon said,in February 27th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
No doubt SOMETHING happened there that night.I WILL NOT LEAVE until I know what happened to this baby..
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I’m with you there Blue Moon – 100%
We need to all work together…including m2c
I am off to bed…catch up with you tomorrow…
We are all smart, very dedicated, we can Do this…
Noreen said,in February 27th, 2010 at 11:12 pm Blue Moon said,in February 27th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
No doubt SOMETHING happened there that night.I WILL NOT LEAVE until I know what happened to this baby..
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I’m with you there Blue Moon – 100%
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I am not leaving either-100%
G’Night All
WOW, Noreen. I’ve looked at the nuisance animal charge a lot over the last year and never noticed the date of 2-10. very interesting, that would seem to me a dog constantly barking. I wonder if Tommy was out wondering around that late
Ronald Cummings is innocent. Listen to his response when the 911 caller ask him what his child was wearing. Past that response I don’t know why the LE even bothered questioning him. When the 911 caller asked Misty to go to the back door to see something, past that I don’t know why they are questioning her. JMHO
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
Hi Vaq,
I doubt that the dog would have been barking at Tommy, if Tommy was its owner, typically a dog barks during rough play, at strangers, etc. I’m assuming the dog knew HaLeigh also, but what about Cousin Joe?
I wonder if the neighbor that called in nuisance call heard anything else, or noted how long the dog had been barking? I would imagine it barked for some time, long enough to necessitate a call to PCSO.
Strange huh?
DustyRose,
I too believe Ronald Cummings is innocent.
G’night all…..pray for HaLeigh’s safe return.
Noreen said,
in February 28th, 2010 at 12:15 am
Hi Vaq,
I doubt that the dog would have been barking at Tommy, if Tommy was its owner, typically a dog barks during rough play, at strangers, etc. I’m assuming the dog knew HaLeigh also, but what about Cousin Joe?
I wonder if the neighbor that called in nuisance call heard anything else, or noted how long the dog had been barking? I would imagine it barked for some time, long enough to necessitate a call to PCSO.
Strange huh?
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or there was some kind of commotion or someone else at tommy’s. I wonder how well Tommy knew the Sheffields?
Some dogs bark every breath when they see their master walk off and leave them, especially, if the master is on foot.
Good morning, everyone!
I’ve been trying to read the discussion from last night. Wow, there’s a lot. So forgive me if I am confuzzled about the questions you were asking.
LE released M’s 911 call about Haleigh. I think they have to do that by law. But I am not sure that they released a transcript of it. Is anyone sure they did? Because I’m thinking that it is possible that a civilian, possibly a reporter or blogger or someone else, typed it up.
Same with the LE radio transmission to the patrol car at or near Tommy’s. The audio of that might have been released by LE but someone else may have typed it up. Maybe that’s why the times are not there (they don’t show on the audio tape) and some of the codes and stuff are not complete. It’s possible that the transcriber could not hear or understand them.
Regarding whether LE redacted any material from the 911 call or the radio transmission, it’s certainly possible that they “edited” the audio tapes. But I would have thought they’d just let the tape run and mute the sound. So we’d hear nothing for 15 secs (the part taken out) and then the voices would resume. But I don’t really know for sure how LE redacts tapes when making them available for the public.
Just thoughts. And it’s too early for me to even be trying to think so please don’t jump on me (too harshly). 🙂
Good Morning….
Yes, I have heard the 911 call from Tyler, as in the scanner audio it’s self…I WIll find a link to audio.
As per dogs barking issue I think it was TC’s dog. If it belonged to someone else they would have been charged. He wouldn’t get charged for upsetting the neighbors dog, he got charged for not quieting his own dog(s). If the officer was just arriving at Tyler at the same time as officers in route/at MH, why were dogs at Tyler barking at that time? Most often people (neighbors) will wait a couple of hours to report a barking dog. ALternately, if this was an usual occurance they might have called right away. There was something up @ Tyler that night….but what and exactly what time? Did dogs bark a long time or did neighbor call right away? It would be nice to narrow that down a little.
I’m not sure about LE as releasor of 911 transcript. The original 911 call was redacted and not just blipped out…We haven’t heard it in it’s entirety…..
I found a transcript & link that TJ gave a poster at SM….He got it straight from LE but no answers as to why they were there that night.
CHeck out this link…the post is near the top…posted by jill, you can’t miss it.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6136.1160
The part about Tyler is bold….
Sorry, that was transcript only but is verified as correct per TJ Hart as source.
I’ll continue to look for audio
Scanner audio & transcript published by TJ Hart & Sky 97.3 website.
per website ausio & transcript recieved from PCSO
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5173311.php
We need to Sunshine request a copy of that dog barking police report. It would give times and an account of what was going on, reason they called LE…how long dogs had barked, if it was chronic issue, etc….
Probably won’t allow due to ongoing investigation and proximity as well as TC possible involvement per his appearance at MH that night….(possibly a lie).
Some people are wondering why certain code numbers are not included in the transcripts (Like __70 – as if the first two digits were not shown) and why times are not included.
The answer may partly depend on whether LE provided the written transcripts or if someone else did the transcriptions.
To me the only reason to show a number as __70 is because the first two digits were redacted in a way that the transcriber would know that two digits were missing. Otherwise it would have been transcribed as 70 (I would think).
Well, it does state that some of the words were “garbbled” so there are spaces instead. I do see what you mean about timestamping but how is it usually done? A digital voice? bleeps? just numbers following written transmission on transcript? I’ve never seen a 911 transcript before so I don’t know what I should look for, as an average listener.
http://www.wesh.com/news/20774307/detail.html
Article about the Mass Wal-mart sighting and Timmy & Chelsea re-interviewed….
“Putnam County Sheriff Spokesman Lt. Johnny Greenwood told the Boston Herald on Monday that police interviewed Timothy Croslin and his wife on Saturday, but would not say why.”
Is it possible that they were re-interviewing them just because they were already there in the area?
“In August, Tim Miller, the leader of Texas EquuSearch, spent 12 days with Haleigh’s family. That’s when he arranged for Misty Cummings’ now-controversial lie detector test.
Miller said he believes that THINGS Misty Cummings SAID DURING those TESTS is what INSPIRED investigators to RE-INTERVIEW family members. (BOld by me)
Miller said he believes that’s why detectives traveled to Cape Cod. The night Haleigh disappeared, Misty Cummings said Timmy Croslin discovered HIS VAN had been USED by SOMEONE ELSE.”
CathyJo there are photo copies of those checks over on Arts site. The lady was to be very wealthy due to oil.They call her Barbara. Barbara felt compassion towards Crystal and felt she could lesson her burdens by helping get rid of the arrearage. Crystal could have gained nothing by taking Haleigh or both of the children. It would not make the arrearage go away or stop the support payments until Haleigh returned. She may of been able to get them reduced ,but that is it. I believe if this lyes on the Sheffield side it is Johnny Marty Sheffield. I have stated that before. He feels he is untouchable by the law. He has not attended anything for Haleigh I believe since he moved to Kentucky.
Why did Chelsea make the statement that Misty woke to find Joe standing over her and it scared her on the night Haleigh vanished?This leads us to believe it was the players in Satsuma. This case is so confusing and it makes me so frustrated!
CathyJo by the way thanks for all you do to find info for us to sift through and question. I saw your prayer and it was beautiful. Amen!
Bac I see your still not feeling well. Sending prayers your way. I hope you will feel better soon.
Goodmorning HollysGmom, Nice to see you.
HGm, I don’t really either. I expect a 911 call is digitally recorded so the time is somehow embedded in it. How and when it appears may depend on some technical aspect of it. Same with the radio transmissions, I’d guess. So when LE releases the recordings those things don’t show up (perhaps). The time a 911 call is received is officially recorded and made public, though. But that’s all I remember ever seeing.
Goodmorning m2c. Nice to see you to.
And good morning, to you, Looking for Justice.
I read that in the Caylee case the state has recently released more evidence (statements, CDs and DVDs) to the defense. However that evidence has not been released to the public yet.
I only mention it because I’m wondering if that is what is going on with the tapes/evidence in the drug charges? Maybe the state is giving them to the defense first, possibly delaying public release. Dare I hope that maybe it’s part of some negotiations?
(Probably not. Probably just a slowing down of the whole process. sigh).
Hollys and m2c In the very beginning when you listened to the 911 the description of what Haleigh was wearing was there. A pink shirt and underwear. I cannot find an original anywhere. I do not know what the signs are called .The ones that flash peoples pic w/a description. It was listed on this sign of PCSO. I used this to show an inconsistent statement in the original police report where Misty said she was wearing a pink shirt and tan shorts. I do not know what happened to it. Perhaps later police redacted some of the info in there.
m2c…sounds like you may be right about that…defense….
Hi looking!
Anybody notice Timmy & Chelsea’s Wedding Anniversary date? 2-11-2006 This is it! THis is who Misty had wanted to babysit for….for their Anni…I’m sure of it! Maybe they were going to celebrate on Monday rather than Tuesday due to CHelsea and/or Timmy’s work schedule. This would also explain why Misty felt so strongly about babysitting for someone other than Ron….
m2c, I heard that the state has some evidence that will be kept secret. The judge allowed it to stay secret. They say it is very damaging to the defense. It was on Nancy Grace Friday night.
Wow Holly I did not know their anniversary date. This could be very possible.
I either didn’t know it before or had lost it in the jumble that this case has become…but I do think it’s very important.
WHat if Misty babysat for Timmy & CHelsea that night…tokk Haleigh & Jr with her, something happened to Haleigh over there and they staged the scene at Green LAne….Joe may have been with her at T & C’s…maybe he did something to Haleigh, or accident.
That could also explain why Misty’s phone was turned off. She didn’t want ROnald to know she went anyway…he probably wanted the kids to sleep in their own home….School night and all….THen the van was used after T & C returned for the night? Joe tells them he’s using it to return Misty & Kids to Green Lane…comes back messed up…or T & C are told about Haleigh accident and they keep quiet about night’s events.
That is a very logical theory. You may be on to something here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc61AO1APc4
Chelsea video about van
thinks she may know who it was…gut instinct/mother instinct…doesn’t say who exactly though…
Matt talks about family member who was visiting…then Chelsea saying she thinks she may know…then more about family member being questioned and van’s return
taken in Feb 11 2009 returned approx 1 month later…03/11/09 and interveiw was approx 1 week later 03/18/09
You know Holly we never heard if Ron called Timmy that night only Tommy which is verified by LE. Maybe Tommy did go to the mh and noone was home. The question is did he call Ron. We have not heard anything on that yet.
Hi, looking for Justice! In Caylee’s case the judge is only allowing the state to keep that evidence secret for a month and then will have to show/prove in writing why it should be kept secret longer. I think that’s where it stands now. Such mystery, I can hardly stand it!
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And, yes, I remember the discrepancy in M’s early descriptions of what Haleigh was wearing. In fact I thought she said Haleigh was in her PJ’s on the 911 call. Then said pink shirt and shorts but then later M found the pink shirt in the washer (or something like that)
You know maybe LE already knew about Tommy being there that night and released to the press after Tommy was arrested 7 months later. Leading us to believe he with held this info. Do you remeber if Tommy had a home phone or was it a cell Ron called? If it was a cell then Tommy could of been pinged and it would show how long he was there.
About the babysitting- why not have T and C’s child stay at R’s? But if that could not happen for some reason, then I suppose M could have gone to T and C’s with or without Haleigh and Jr. That’s what worries me about the investigation. Did LE or can LE still find out if T and C went out somewhere that night?
But then what about all these claims that she was too tired to babysit that night (which I think are garbage anyway).
looking for justice, I hope that LE suspected T could have been at R’s MH that night the minute they saw R’s phone records. But I don’t think they knew for sure until he admitted it.
I’m not sure that cell phone pinging is so accurate as to be able to place him at R’s though because I think T’s home was only 100 or so yards away.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4134272&postcount=599
Post of PCSO statement at WS
“Greenwood reported the interviews were “totally unrelated” to an alleged sighting of Haleigh at a Massachusetts Wal-Mart.
Croslin-Cummings made statements that her brother had been acting strangely after the girl vanished.”
HGm @ 10:28 – I think that comment posted late. I did not see it until now. I would not be surprised if something M said in those ridiculous tests of TM’s prompted LE to interview T and C again but I don’t remember all of what she said well enough to know what it could have been. Of course LE should have already known about the van being moved and scratched. And no one has owned up to doing that yet!
HGm, what did you mean by LE interviewing T and C because they were already up there? Do you mean because of the sighting? That’s possible but often LE will let a local LE look into it. It’s partly just a matter of getting the store’s footage and matching it to a photo of Haleigh. If that doesn’t pan out then no sense in PCSO traveling. But that’s just what makes sense to me. Heaven only knows if that’s what LE actually does.
Chelsea Croslin interview after this MASS investigation
Snip” Reported by: Cathi Carson
Last Update: 3:54 pm Sept 8, 2009
Fla.–Investigators from Putnam County Sheriff’s Office traveled to Massachusetts to interview Timothy Croslin and his wife. Croslin is Haleigh’s step-mother’s brother.
Lindsy Croslin says investigators had a lot of questions, 14 HOURS WORTH.
Bold By Me
More at link….original link not working…I’ll keep looking for a better one.
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content…NCQ.cspx?rss=1
Has anyone ever found out what Timmy almost went to federal prison for? He talked a little about it to Tommy on the jailhouse phone call.
Just curious what would get you into a federal prison? jmo
He stated it was in Virginia too. jmo
The couple was questioned on Saturday by investigators but Lindsey Croslin is confident it was simply standard procedure. In fact she’s happy to hear deputies are really working this case. “They had Chelsea in questioning for like 14 hours. Yeah, they took her in the morning, let her go home and got her again. Asked her the same basic questions, do you know anything about haleigh, did you or Tim try to help misty to hide haleigh…yeah. Crazy questions.”
Lindsey Croslin says the family has started to pull away from Misty Croslin-Cummings who has failed several polygraph tests
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/090809_haleighs_aunt_speaks_out
ALso Linsey talks about her & Tommy’s choice to move to MASS with Timmy & Chelsea….
m2c , I too cannot wait on this secret evidence. It has me in suspense. Your are right I forgot Tommys house being so close. Timmy lived in Crescent city just North of Pomona Park. I got them confused. I went back to watch the voice stress analysis and it says that 9 minutes have been redacted due to incriminating statements. Misty says that if Tommy is involved so is cousin Joe.
Good morning all,
I am thinking the TC/dog issue is either something really big or absolutely nothing at all.
Neighbors usually call cops about dogs when they have been barking a while and very loudly. Now, we all know there are neighbors who call cops at the drop of a hat, but typically the cops are aware of those who do that and usually a warning is given rather than a citation.
My question is did the dog bark or cause trouble routinely? Just because we have not found (or may not find) other dates with complaints about the dog does not mean it did not happen frequently. Neighbors might have let it go for awhile. Or, cops came and it was just a warning or maybe a ticket for ordinance violation.
If the dog did not usually bark loudly and frequently, but it did that night, I would like to know what time the neighbor called police to report it. Also, I want to know if the nuisance call was for barking and not another dog behavior…dog going through someone’s trash, for example.
It’s just always bothered me that no dogs barked that night, and neighbors heard nothing unusual that night. As far as I could find, there had been no disturbance reported other than the neighbor who heard Misty crying and talking to 911. Until now that is, with this dog.
I apologize if these questions have been asked already. I am not caught up on reading yet.
Chelsea’s 180…
“My kids love her to death,” says Chelsea, but “sometimes I’d hear the baby crying, and Misty wouldn’t wake up. I’m a light sleeper. I hear everything.”
That’s why she doesn’t buy that Misty’s Tennessee cousin, Joe Overstreet, had anything do with Haleigh’s disappearance, despite Misty’s family pointing fingers at him, and her initial suspicions . “I would have woken up if he’d gone out of our house,” she says. But Misty’s mother, Lisa, and sister in law, Lindsay, told me months ago they feared Joe had access to the keys and Chelsea’s van when he spent the night at their house.
But Chelsea says she didn’t see Joe leave or come back, and doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong except be at the wrong place at the wrong time. He left for Nashville the morning Haleigh was reported missing and his mother tells me that Florida Department of Law Enforcement agents interviewed him twice in the last two weeks at their home outside Nashville. “
HollysGmom said,
in February 28th, 2010 at 10:09 am
We need to Sunshine request a copy of that dog barking police report. It would give times and an account of what was going on, reason they called LE…how long dogs had barked, if it was chronic issue, etc….
Probably won’t allow due to ongoing investigation and proximity as well as TC possible involvement per his appearance at MH that night….(possibly a lie).
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I know someone that did request that report a few months ago and was told there was no report. they are going to ask again. If LE is dispatched to some place there has to be a report on the call plus we can see in the court records he was charged, so how was he charged without a police report.
ANother Chelsea quote, Joe O…
snip…Reflecting now, she says, “What I told police was that I can’t totally, 100 per cent account for Joe that night…..end snip
AH #3180 article (link I have not working)
Hi Gang!!!!
Trying to get caught up here.
Looking… thanks for the well-wishes!
Tobias, while I am suspicious of Timmy’s commit, he said it sort of off handily, like he was just trying to re-assure Tommy, in a brotherly way. IMO
HollyG, wasn’t there at some point a statement about him (Joe) sleeping in boxer shorts? I slightly remember that, cause I felt how odd of a statement to make!! Please someone, anyone correct me if I’m wrong!!
SOrry guys I was digging and posting without reading your comments in between…
THere was a newspaper article link where in Greenwood said they were unrelated…
I think this disturbance with the dogs at 116 Tyler that very night is extremely important but kept in dark for that reason.
Questions I have about the van. Who had a second set of keys that night, everyone knows you own two sets of keys for a car.
When was the van last seen in the driveway by anyone (TIME). What time did everyone at the residence go to bed? And the biggest one is if it was just an innocent usage of the van why would no one own up to the scratches and account for where it was? Its just way too fishy. jmo
((((((Hello)))))) Anyone home?
looking for Justice @ 12:30 – Dad gum it. Seems like everything we need to know has been redacted (or “doesn’t exist” as in dog barking report). Drat
You are right Chelsea made the statement that Joe was sleeping in his jeans when he usually slept in boxers. jmo
cent @ 12:47 – I was vaguely remembering a remark that Joe usually slept in his underwear but was found sleeping fully clothed the next morning. I’m sure I saw that. It set off alarms in my head anyway.
I always wondered about that and asked a long time ago, I have dogs and if there are any strange noises at night they know about it.
It struck me as odd that not a single person came forward to say yeah, my dog barked at such and such a time that night. jmo
Thanks… Tobias~M2C… I didn’t like that when it was said, and I don’t like it now.
Opps I need to add they are inside dogs too.
I once heard from friends who snowbird to Florida that dogs should be kept indoors because of gators. They love dog. jmo
cent, me either. If R did call Timmy and Chelsea’s looking for M, Joe could have heard about it and gone to investigate on his own after they went to bed.
Sounds as though someone moved the van, but Chelsea didn’t wake up to hear that.
I am going to go back and try to find the exact time she stated they went to bed. You know try to do a time line. jmo bbl
Maybe neighbors did report hearing things that night but have been asked to keep quiet for now.
cathartic you may be right about that. I think a neighbor saw Haleigh at some point but LE has not said who or what time. So maybe all of that kind of thing is being kept quiet.
CHelsea stated in interviews that she stayed up late working on their bills/taxes….SHe said in another interview that she would have heard Joe leave or come back as she is a light sleeper. She says in another interview that Misty sometimes fell asleep wwhile babysitting for them…that Misty wouldn’t hear the baby crying but Chelsea would…WHich baby??? CHelsea’s when Misty was babysitting? Why would Misty be sitting for them while they are home?
I’d love to know Chelsea’s work shcedule for that week prior to Haleigh’s abduction…Like was she scheduled to work Tues & Wednesday so that they would want to celebrate on 9th/Monday?
HollyG good point. I assumed she meant Misty was living with them, like a live-in babysitter… during some point.
Cathy…. are you here??
But HGm, Joe was there so he could babysit! LOL! And if not that, then why couldn’t T and C’s child go to R’s for the evening? T and C could have picked her up after their evening out.
Sounds like M may have led a fairly nomadic existence before moving in with R. May have stayed with her parents, T and L and T and C from time to time.
Chelsea was up late with Timmy because of the insurance on the car Hank wrecked, it was their car. They went to bed at around midnight.
So that leaves from 12 midnight til 4 in the morning when they got the call about Haleigh. But I also remember Timmy getting up and saying Joe wasnt in bed and thought he was in another room on his cell phone. That statement was made by Misty I believe. So we know the van was there at midnight. jmo
Remember too, Ron filed a phone harrasment on Timmy after the fight with the Croslins. Misty claimed she didnt want him to do it. I guess Timmy called Ron a little biatch boy or something to that effect. If they were calling Misty on her phone why would it be Ron fileing charges? jmo
Maybe Chelsea was OK with Joe being there as long as they were there also, felt safe but not for him to babysit….Just speculation.
Yes to the nomadic lifestyle…free babysitter for all…I’ve seen it hundreds of times….a couple offer a younger sibling food, shelter, and not much else in return for free babysitting.
That Midnight to 4 timeline brings to mind that timeline in PCSO’s Haleigh room….there was activity from person on line 1 and line 2 at just before Midnight and just after. Activity (3 or 4 in all) stops on line 2 around 2 am…Line one contiunes until after 3:00 am when 911 call made & report recieved.
It appears omeone was involved from approx 10:00 PM until 2:00 am….seems like I read a statement from PCSO as to same….
Meaning
“Trying to nail down timeline,especially for the hours of 10:00 Pm to 2AM”
I’ll look for actual quote
It seems to me when Ron and Misty fought she would go to Timmys. The last time thats where Ron dropped her off at when she took off with NayNay. JMO
THere is a police report on file at Putnam Courthouse…
UCN: 542009CO000052XXAXCX
File Date: 2009-02-27 Judge: JAMES L PADGETT
Defense Atty:
Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2009-02-27 1 LOCAL ORD CITN: #09-1334 (02-10-09) PCSO/R CLARKE
2009-02-27 1 PUBLIC ANIMAL NUSIANCE
2009-02-27 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 03/12/2009
2009-02-27 2 OFFICER’S REPORT
2009-04-17 3 $57.00 LOCAL ORDINANCE FINE PAID
Officer’s Report…..I’ll look for a PDF file of it….
Well from Chelseas statements Joe can be accounted for in the time line until after midnight and 4 in the morning. So we know he wasnt at Tommys at 10 when he says he went to the MH. The time line for him would narrow so he would feel others were asleep, 1 in the morning to 3 in the morning. Thats a 2 hour frame at the least. 3 hours at the most. jmo
More info on Hank Croslin City Ordinance issue(s) only this is Sr…
File Date: 2009-04-16 Judge: JAMES L PADGETT
Defense Atty:
Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T SR
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2009-03-25 1 LOCAL ORDN CITN#09-2250(03/13/09)PCSO DEP R CLARK
2009-03-25 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 04/09/09
2009-03-25 1 OFFICERS REPORT
2009-03-25 2 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT
2009-03-31 2 WRITTEN PLEA OF NOT GUILTY TO LOCAL ORDINANCE
2009-04-19 3 NOTICE OF ORDINANCE HEARING ISSUED TO:DEF CROSLIN
2009-04-19 3 COMP GLASS,OFF CLARK
2009-04-19 3 COURT SET FOR MAY 14,2009 9:00AM BD OF COMM ROOM
2009-04-19 3 1F 107 NORTH 6TH ST PALATKA, FL 32177 W/JLP
2009-05-14 4 ORDINANCE HEARING MINUTES:GUILTY PAY FINE
2009-05-14 4 $57.00 PAY BY 07/13/09
2009-07-23 5 $57.00 LOCAL ORDINANCE FINE PAID
ORDER SETTING PRE TRIAL 03/31/2010
Sr’s Dr Shopping PRe-Trial hearing….He’d better hurry…not much time left…
Just the Feb before Lindsy got a ticket for a PitBull Noisy Ordinance
UCN: 542008CO000109XXAXCX
File Date: 2008-03-10 Judge: JAMES L PADGETT
Defense Atty:
Defendant
CROSLIN, LINDSY K
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2008-03-11 1 LOCAL ORD CIT#08-1979 (02/25/08) PCSO/S COULLIETTE VEL
2008-03-11 1 PUBLIC ANIMAL NUSIANCE (WHITE PITTBULL)
2008-03-11 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 03/27/2008
2008-03-11 2 INCIDENT REPORT
2008-03-24 3 $57.00 LOCAL ORDINANCE FINE PAID
THen again in May 2008
UCN: 542009CO000119XXAXCX
File Date: 2009-05-05 Judge: JAMES L PADGETT
Defense Atty:
Defendant
CROSLIN, LINDSY K
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2009-05-05 1 LOCAL ORD CIT #09-3893 (05/02/09) PCSO/C MANNING
2009-05-05 1 PUBLIC ANIMAL NUSIANCE (BARKING)
2009-05-05 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 06/02/2009
2009-05-05 2 INCIDENT REPORT
2009-06-19 3 $57.00 LOCAL ORDINANCE FINE PAID
So maybe Tommy was claiming its Hanks dog? lol Maybe they thought they would drop it because it wasnt Tommys dog? jmo
HollysGmom said,in February 28th, 2010 at 2:11 pm More info on Hank Croslin City Ordinance issue(s) only this is Sr…
File Date: 2009-04-16 Judge: JAMES L PADGETT
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Hollyg and the Padgetts are family, i know on Maires side but Is padgetts family on the others side? Just thinking here. Cause they are all in-bread familyies. Hmm
This is NEWS!!!!
2010-02-18 11 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS
2010-02-18 12 APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2010-02-18 13 CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED
2010-02-23 14 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
2010-02-23 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
Misty filed for a PD on 2/18!!!! What happened to Fields???
Tobias @ 1:56 – The phone might have been in R’s name. Just a possibility.
OMG Just what these idiots need a pit bull. Did they have insurance for it I doubt it.
Whatever happened to it? Kids and pitbulls who are raised by idiots are not a good mix in my opinion. Bully breeds need a owner who knows what they are doing. I know I own a large boxer and a german shepherd, both dogs have less of a reputaion but need proper training.jmo
HollysGmom said,
in February 28th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
This is NEWS!!!!
2010-02-18 11 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS
2010-02-18 12 APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2010-02-18 13 CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED
2010-02-23 14 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
2010-02-23 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
Misty filed for a PD on 2/18!!!! What happened to Fields???
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could be Fields will be her PD. he wrote the letter to Leonard after that date.
HGm – about the attorney. Maybe Fields has stayed on. I don’t know when he wrote that letter to LP. Maybe M ran out of money or was told she can’t use her own money if LE thinks it’s drug money. Maybe Fields is working for her but being paid by the state like a public defender? IDK. Just ideas.
AnneInTn said,in February 28th, 2010 at 2:18 pm Hollyg and the Padgetts are family, i know on Maires side but Is padgetts family on the others side? Just thinking here. Cause they are all in-bread familyies. Hmm
Surely you don’t mean me….as HollyG….because I have no relatives in that area….Ron does have an offshoot cousin with my maiden name though….never met though…
Oops. Sorry and thank you, Vaq. I didn’t see your post before leaving mine.
Me too m2c…many questions now! Is Fields listed as a PD or does he have to be to still represent her? Maybe he had to let her over to a PD cause she souldn’t pay him and he couldn’t afford to truely represent her….a lot of questions and possible reasonable answers…I just thought it important because it’s info we haven’t hear yet!!!
tobias, @ dogs. That’s the truth. Poor dog. Frankly I care more about what happened to him/her than I care what happens to T.
Stupid ignorant jerk should not be allowed to have a dog (or children) IMO.
HollysGmom said,in February 28th, 2010 at 2:24 pm AnneInTn said,in February 28th, 2010 at 2:18 pm Hollyg and the Padgetts are family, i know on Maires side but Is padgetts family on the others side? Just thinking here. Cause they are all in-bread familyies. Hmm
Surely you don’t mean me….as HollyG….because I have no relatives in that area….Ron does have an offshoot cousin with my maiden name though….never met though
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HollyG No. sorry i was just thinking a makeing a point, i think you took what i said out of context…back to reading for me. Sorry
I thought he wrote that lett ON that date….
tobias @ 2:10 – Would be interesting to know if T called Joe that evening. I hope LE has all of T’s calls from back then but I don’t know if they investigated anyones’ phones at the beginning other than R and M.
No…I just misread….no problem…wasn’t trying to be rude, just wanted to clarify so I would know for sure what was meant and others too.
SO Marie is related to Padgette?
The Padgetts are kin to Marty. His mother married a Padgett.
Wow hgmom, Thats some interesting news! Maybe misty is planning to take LP up on his offer, and thats why fields is backing off. I feel a storma’ brewin’! could get verrry interesting. Dear God I hope it all leads to Haleigh.
m2c♥ said,
in February 28th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Oops. Sorry and thank you, Vaq. I didn’t see your post before leaving mine
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that’s ok. 😀
UCN: 542010CF000251XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-02-03 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: FIELDS, ROBERT M
Defendant
CUMMINGS, MISTY JANETTE
Alias
CROSLIN, MISTY JANETTE
Date # Docket Description
2010-02-03 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO DET TIM CAMPBELL
2010-02-03 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2010-02-03 2 INFORMATION – TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (28G-30KG)
2010-02-03 3 CAPIAS REQUEST FORM – BOND $250,000 NATIONWIDE
2010-02-03 4 CAPIAS ISSUED – BOND SET AT $250,000 NATIONWIDE
2010-02-09 5 MOTION AND ORDER TO TRANSPORT
2010-02-09 5 02/18/2010 ST JOHNS COUNTY
2010-02-18 6 APPEARANCE, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND FOR
2010-02-18 6 TRIAL BY JURY FILED BY ROBERT FIELDS
2010-02-18 7 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, SWORN, ARRAIGNED,
2010-02-18 7 ATT BY ROBERT FIELDS, ENTERED PLEA OF NOT GUILTY,
2010-02-18 7 SET FOR PRE TRIAL 03/31/2010.
2010-02-18 8 ORDER SETTING PRE TRIAL 03/31/2010
2010-02-18 9 ARREST REPORT – 2/18/2010
2010-02-18 9 BOOKING NUMBER: 10-00278
2010-02-18 9 BOND SET AT $250,000.00
2010-02-18 10 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG
2010-02-18 10 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
2010-02-18 10 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
2010-02-18 10 $250,000.00 SECURED BOND SET
2010-02-18 11 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS
2010-02-18 12 APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2010-02-18 13 CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED
2010-02-23 14 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
2010-02-23 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
HGm @ 2:26 It IS really new news and important. Thank you for finding it. I don’t think we’ve heard anything from Fields since that letter was sent on Feb 22 (according to BNN article). We’ll have to see if he’s going to continue to represent her. He could accept whatever amount they usually pay Public Defenders I guess.
Misty & Attorney notified on 2/23
Had Field’s filed anything since then? Just curious.
THis one might look the same but is a little different…THey consolidated charges from both counties for trial in this one.
UCN: 542010CF000142XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: FIELDS, ROBERT M
Defendant
CUMMINGS, MISTY JANETTE
Alias
CROSLIN, MISTY JANETTE
Date # Docket Description
2010-01-21 1 COMPLAINT – PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (1/14/10)
2010-01-21 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2010-01-21 1 TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE MORE THAN 28 GRAMS
2010-01-21 2 WARRANT ISSUED – BOND SET AT $250,000.00
2010-01-25 3 ARREST REPORT – 1/20/2010
2010-01-25 3 BOOKING NUMBER: 10-00278
2010-01-25 3 BOND SET AT $250,000.00
2010-01-25 4 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS
2010-01-25 5 FELONY WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
2010-01-25 6 ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO ST JOHNS COUNTY
2010-01-25 6 FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA
2010-01-25 7 MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
2010-01-25 7 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS
2010-01-25 7 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-01-25 8 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
2010-01-25 8 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-01-25 8 PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL
2010-01-26 9 FIRST APPEARANCE FORM
2010-02-03 10 INFORMATION – TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (28G – 30KG)
2010-02-03 11 MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL
2010-02-09 12 ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE
2010-02-10 13 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL
2010-02-18 14 ARR MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY ROBERT FIELDS
2010-02-18 14 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY – PRE-TRIAL SET 03/31/2010
2010-02-18 15 ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010
2010-02-18 16 APPEARANCE, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND FOR TRIAL
2010-02-18 16 BY JURY, NOTICE OF DISCOVERY, REQUEST FOR COPY OF
2010-02-18 16 INFORMATION AND MOTION FOR STATEMENT OF PARTICULARS
2010-02-18 16 FILED BY:ROBERT M FIELDS
2010-02-23 17 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010)
2010-02-23 18 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
So are we thinking Fields has fled?
I have not heard anything about Fields since the letter he wrote Padilla on Feb 22. Maybe they applied for indigent status Feb 18 but he had to keep working for her until the notice from the court on Feb 23. We’ll have to see if a public defender has been appointed or if Fields is going to continue.
Hi, cent! I couldn’t blame him! M’s given him a lot of headaches already I’m sure!
If she no longer has Fields representing her wouldn’t that have been newsworthy? Seems we would have heard about it.
LOL maybe it’s being reported here for the first time!
Ronald’s Docket File
UCN: 542010CF000144XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: SHOEMAKER, TERRY J
Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2010-01-21 1 COMPLAINT – PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (1/14/10)
2010-01-21 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2010-01-21 1 TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE MORE THAN 28 GRAMS
2010-01-21 2 WARRANT ISSUED – BOND SET AT $250,000.00
2010-01-22 3 ARREST REPORT – 1/20/2010
2010-01-22 3 BOOKING NUMBER: 10-00276
2010-01-22 3 BOND SET AT $250,000.00
2010-01-22 4 ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO FLAGLER COUNTY
2010-01-22 4 FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA
2010-01-22 5 MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF
2010-01-22 5 BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS
2010-01-22 5 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-01-22 6 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
2010-01-22 6 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-01-22 6 PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL
2010-01-22 7 ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO FLAGLER COUNTY
2010-01-22 7 FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA
2010-01-22 8 MOTION FOR PROTECTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
2010-01-22 8 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS
2010-01-22 8 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-01-22 9 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
2010-01-22 9 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-01-22 9 PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL
2010-01-22 10 FELONY WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
2010-02-03 11 INFORMATION – TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (28G – 30KG)
2010-02-03 12 MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL
2010-02-05 13 NOTICE OF APPEARNCE FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER
2010-02-05 14 NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
2010-02-09 15 ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE
2010-02-10 16 STATE’S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
2010-02-10 17 WITNESS LIST
2010-02-10 18 DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE
2010-02-11 19 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL
2010-02-11 20 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02-18-2010)
2010-02-17 21 WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND
2010-02-17 21 FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (FAX)
2010-02-18 22 ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010
2010-02-19 23 WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENE,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND
2010-02-19 23 FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (ORIGINAL)
2010-02-23 24 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
2010-02-23 25 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
SO maybe that notice was just notice to appear in court on 3/31…
Hi M2C,… I’m thinking Fields is in for the long haul… imo
However, you never know!!
Cathartic, yes… I could see it being reported for the first time here… other news outlets don’t seem too interested in much, besides the drama. But, “we” have many “ace cub reporters”!!!
SHe may not have been given the name of PD….Fields may stay in play until she is assigned one. Surely they’ll update the records as soon as one is established, if not Fields under PD status…I’m gonna read up on it tonight to try to understand more….I gotta get ready for work and won’t be able to listen to the show until after the fact….Can someone call in and ask TJ about this issue? Maybe post to me during show and I’ll catch up to you guys about 5:00 Central…LOL!
LOL!!!Too True!
I will try HollyG, I’ve set the reminder… but I always forget the password… usually I’m in the chat room… 20 minutes later… So today, I call myself planning ahead. LOL!!!
(I’m in my MI5/Spooks~mode)
Yeah I’m sure it could be said here first, I was going to add “bombshell” on the OP and kid Hollys about it but decided not to. Sense of humor is not something everyone has and I have to remind myself of that sometimes.
Maybe he is just going to be her attorney for the Haleigh case? That would still give him reason to write the letter to LP.
I wonder if he did this after the demand for evidence(tapes)? Couldnt really win with a jury trial and the tapes in my opinion.
Reported on AH on Feb 22
“Regarding Misty Croslin’s frantic appeal to her mother, Lisa, to seek Padilla’s help with her $1.35 million bond, Fields tells me that was made on a jailhouse videotape during visit BEFORE he had a chance to visit his client and explain the illogic of doing such a deal–telling Padilla what she knew or may know about Haleigh in exchange for temporary freedom.
Such a move would take away any trump card Fields might be able to use to bargain for his client’s release on bond, or lesser charges and prison time she might receive if convicted of her drug charges, in exchange for verifiable information about what happened to Haleigh.
Reading between the lines, we can expect Fields to explore several options for his client in the coming days and weeks, and if you listen to the recent jailhouse tapes, Misty Croslin hints she might have overheard something the night Haligh vanished.
He declined to say whether he believed she had anything to use to bargain with law enforcement to bring down prison time she’s facing if convicted on all 8 counts of trafficking in prescription painkillers — an estimated 114 years behind bars. But he did say, “Misty understands this is serious, and has decided to take her lawyers advice.”
BAC, I will be there too and if we both post I am sure it will get seen. jmo
Maybe drugs is not his specialty.
Or, maybe he can do it but not pro bono, so is seeking payment of some sort.
Hope he advises her to tell the truth and not make up lies ? She also needs some kind of proof for her allegations to be worth anything in my opinion.
Cool Tobias!!
Cathartic I will do it for you!!
This just in… somewhere in Florida… (((((BoMbShElL)))))… I’ve got HollyG, standing by… Spill it HollyG! Cathartic, put HollyG’s face on the screen… put her up now!! I want to see her face!!!
lololololololol.
unleash the lawyers. lol BAC You crack me up. Thanks I think we all needed a good laugh right now. jmo
LOL, BA. Very well done!
Yes.. Tobias… ((((unleash)))) the lawyers. Wait a sec, I’ve got MeThinks speaking in my ear. Now, M2C are you ready to give me an answer? Well, guess what Cent… that ain’t gonna fly!!!! Forget you’re working for the defense… just give me a straight answer, Cent, can you?
Yes.. Mizz Nancy, but I will be cut off!!
~~~No offense to any, meant~~~
Maybe the dog in question is a boxer.
cent you are hilarious!!
Hey Treece!
Now, Treece… you haven’t lied to me yet, that I know of!!! You have graduated from a prestiges Law School, you have an excellent reputation/credentials…. Now tell me, why your client can’t keep his/her story straight?
its always a nightmare logging on to listen to the show! FIX IT SIMON! thank u
So Gang… HollyG’s Public Defender question was asked, Jan voiced it!!! But, I can’t remember the answers! Please fill her in. TY
I got in on the tail-end of this discussion, and I thought: What in the world? Who’s fighting who? Is Treece lying or being accused of lying? What does NG have to do with Treece lying? Now the their talking about dogs!
I guess it pays to go back and read everyting before we start typing.
From what was said on the program, it looks like the news is good for Cobra. GO COBRA! I HAVE BEEN PRAYING FOR YOU! I so hope you walk out from under that dark cloud you have been under.
Hey Karon… if you’re talking about me and my Mizz Nancy schtick…. you should start at Cathartic’s 2:46… it was all in regards to the possible news of Misty and a Public Defender… reported by HollyG.
Cathy are you here??
Cent:
I figured that out, but for a few minutes, I thought: what do we have going on, now? I thought, we have had to wait one day too long for another Cumming’s- Croslin’s video, and we just blew up.
OJ, I never have any trouble tuning in to the radio show. How are you going about it? I just come to BNN home page or an article and click on the Blog Talk Radio box (in blue and white) near the top of the page and on the right.
Then I click on Play/Chat which is on the left of the page that appears. In a few seconds I’m hearing it. I’m usually a few minutes late so it’s already in progress but anyway that works for me. Hope this helps.
Ok.. Karon… I looked back and I thought it all looked strange too especially the Treece/NG. Me and my humor!
Cent:
You are funny! We need a good laugh around here, sometimes.
Karon, yes we do!
I didn’t see that MG video about her saying Haleighs in Georgia or Alabama…I keep going back to those Tim Holmseth/cobra interviews w/ that Goodwill sighting. I had posted previously it was in Kentucky,but I went back and listened and it was in GEORGIA. And werent they in Alabama at one time too. Does anyone know what I’m talking about, where the witness to the goodwill and gas station sighting picked the man out of a mugshot and it was Johhny Sheffield? (I know I keep talking bout it) J.Sheffield was also the one who Cobra said got his pants in a wad when they said it wasn’t blood on the glove. It’s on Flood of Noah on Youtube. People say T. Holmseth is nuts, but u never know…
Beautiful adams: are u sure u aren’t getting pneumonia? please be careful.This cold thing is spreading where I live and its kicking peoples a**es. Take ur temp and that’s an order!!
Hey Guys!! I didn’t have a dog in this fight……Honest to God I didn’t….I got witnesses that will swear i knew nothing and was nowhere near the site on the day of question!!
Shocked me like it did Karon i guess,lol
Do you have a fever Adams,shewwww don’t wanna scare ya but remember my dp…thought i’d die with a fever!!
You didn’t see that ron? if you want it i’ll hunt the link!
CathyJo always has a link, and that’s agood thing.
THE NANCY GRACE stuff has me laughing so loud my husband ran upstairs to see what was going on!!!!!!!!! Done to perfection!!! Except: nothing mentioned about the twins.: NANCY: Folks, you know, I love alligators and dogs, but as a mother of twins, I just have to think, why would you have a dog, or live by alligators? I can’t help but think, were those Misty’s dogs and alligators? Did she let Haleigh play w/alligators and pittbulls WHILE Ron was at work? OUT TO YOU, ART HARRIS…..Well, Nancy, MY SOURCES tell me, YES, IN FACT Misty did let the kids out to play often w/pittbulls and alligators..In fact, LE is looking into this new lead as we speak…..”…..
Sorry, another post; I love the attorney who rhymes!! (Nancy) : “lets unleash the lawyers..” “Gators and taters, guess we’ll see ya later..” Sorry, couldn’t resist. Thanks for the great laughs!!
Thanks Cathy Jo, I’ll be waitin’!! I did see on NG when MG squeezed Crystal’s hand like a ventriloquist, though!!!
LoL Karon,if i just had one to link my brain together,lol
Have you seen the one of MG at the vigil,very interesting to say the least RonFan?
The alligators are probably more afraid of them, than they are of the alligators. They probably have those alligators and dogs doped up. ” Here, have a little smoke.”
CathyJo:
I have no doubt, if we give you a little time, you will find it. LOL
My husband always says, when he sees the rhyming lawyer, “There’s the bulldog.”
ADams,was it you looking for pix…..if so heres a pafe full of big pix! various people!
I got booted again and then ended up on a blog,where picles,and candy and strange nix,TG i didn’t hit post! LoL
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7079.msg1071027
Bulldog! LoL Doberman mixed! LoL
CathyJo:
That’s right!
Here, have a little smoke.”
roflmsao! now thats funny,prolly true but funny,…lol sorta!
Karon my neighbors about 6 yrs ago had a parakeet and she had that parakeet trained to drink beer from her glass,it would fly right onto the edge sit there and drink!ohhh wasn’t my bird but i swear if i coulda fit it in my pocket,he’d be free today!
which he’s prolly fre anyway,bird heaven,died of bad liver no doubt!
I use to love N/g and now i hater i guess cause i don’t have cable and can’t watch,lol but she does compare to much to her own life to suit me anymore.lol
Poor Bird.
LMAOROTF Cent, Ronfan, & Karon!!!
You guys are great! I gotta go listen to the show…It’s been pretty hectic at work here today so no time yet to hear…Thanks for getting my question in there! I can’t wait to hear the answer!
Play with aligators….here have a little smoke…LOL!!! Still laughing my booty off!!!
HGM:
We’re a mess today. Aren’t we?
Yup!!! But a fantastic group!!!! 🙂
Hey all, sorry to go on and on like I did about the dog but I am suspicious when info comes up that can be verified to a certain point and then POOF, no further info available on it. We know LE has evidence they are not releasing and it’s not a far stretch to think the dog issue could be highly significant but is for some reason being quiet.
kept quiet.
I am sorry Cath,but today is the first i have ever heard of a dog in the story?? Tommy called about a dog barking or what,sorry dunno how to ask what i don’t know! LoL
Hello Gang,
Just popped around in-between MI5 vids. Glad we all had a laugh. I think we all know the value of humor. My son just gave me his Sunday reminder for the 7th time, that Family Guy is on tonight!! Talk about shoving humor in your face, sheesshh… my kid is so pushy!!! I hope it’s a new episode!!!
All these prestiges lawyers,colleges,big dogs and all,this little pup knows nuttin’
I love Family Guy Holly’s,as a matter of fact i like alot of shows i didn’t use too because i get one channel wiff my cawfee can!!!
Cathartic, there just may be something to the dog! What if the time corresponds to the time Tommy claims he went to the MH. I mean, he couldn’t be at two places at once.
***just sayin, I didn’t compare time***
CathyJo, the dog came up because of the discussion about why a patrol car was at Tommy’s that night. Someone here found a police report saying there was a dog nuisance call on 2/10/09 at 116 Tyler. And we were wondering what time that complaint came in. So far we cannot find the officer’s report.
Been missing you Cathy!!! Glad to see ya!!
Karon Cox said,in February 28th, 2010 at 7:53 pm CathyJo always has a link, and that’s agood thing.
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It should be but i get carried away sometimes,lol but omg Karon when i had dial up ohhhhh Lord it drove me batty!!so thats why i keep the vids laying around,lol
There ya Be.Adams! You feeling better or worse?
Shoot,you talk about withdrawls, staying away from you guys will givem to ya!!
hm,ty cath,I’ll try to help!
LOL Cawfee can….reminds me of an old commercial we used to have here. There’s this guy that had a fishing show for years and he did a lot of the local commercials (especially Ala businesses) anywhy, when satellites first came out ( and I’m talking about the HUGE dishes) he had a commercial where he held up a metal washtub and would call “Come in satellite”…LOL! I guess maybe you had to be there .
I’m much better, thanks! Hope all is well with you!!
Oh BA, I know how important humor is. And your Miz Nancy thing was a hoot! I just shy away from humor here ’cause the last time I tried I was accused of being mean. That’s all. I love the humor here, when it does happen, but I bow out so that I will not offend.
Protect Children said:
Tommy’s story, and the timing of 7 months late, brings up a lot of questions.
Some neighbors seem to know a lot of what goes on in the neighborhood where Haleigh was reported missing. Did anyone previously tell law enforcement they saw Tommy on Green Lane around 10? If Tommy walked to check on his sister that night didn’t any dogs bark alerting neighbors? Did any neighbors report seeing his car at the Cummings residence around 10? Wouldn’t neighbors have seen or heard Tommy banging on the doors and hanging around the Cummings’ house at that time of night? Neighbors did report hearing noises and dogs barking 1:30 – 2:30 am.
As close as i got! So far!
Yes Adams,I am fine as my whine..lol ty Glad you’re feeling better,id have had to make ya some of my mamas lampoil remedy,lol
Cathartic @9:13, I thought you felt that way, that’s why I did it. Maybe it’s not always appreciated/appropriate… but sometimes you just can’t help yourself,(I can’t). If it’s funny then it’s funny. You know your heart, and how far to take it. I love “our” sense of humor!
It could be that there was often noise coming from that MH. Maybe neighbors who heard any that night dismissed it as the norm.
Same for barking dogs. If they barked often, it might have been dismissed as insignificant.
Hey Cent…glad you’refeeling better!! I was starting to get worried…I saw that there is a police report on barking dogs on file so maybe a local or Tj could retrieve such an item. I am seriously thinking about traveling to Satsuma, at least for a day, and plundering some stuff. LOL! I have some points saved up for a free room and it would only take a few hrs each way….I’ll let you know as plans “firm up”.
Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2009-02-27 1 LOCAL ORD CITN:#09-1334 (02-10-09) PCSO/R CLARKE
2009-02-27 1 PUBLIC ANIMAL NUSIANCE
2009-02-27 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 03/12/2009
2009-02-27 2 OFFICER’S REPORT
2009-04-17 3 $57.00 LOCAL ORDINANCE FINE PAID
Note the date….2-10-09
Interesting. It appears his dog was running amok. Neighbors must have called LE.
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/archive/index.php/t-364686.html
Dogs barking on Tyler was reoccurring but troublesome enough for someone to have made a report about it and a ticket was issued. All of the house residents seemed to take turns recieving the tickets for said dog(s) so no one person got “too many”.
Thanks Cathy@9:16!
I’ve got a question… Is it or was it possible for LE to get a satellite image of the MH/neighborhood for that night/time?? Some how/reason I am under the impression that it is possible to do so, even a year later.
***could be my MI5 mode…talkin***
I’m itchin to go talk to a few people in Satsuma….Green lane neighbors & tyler too!
If you do HollyG. be careful and stay in-touch… and DO NOT share the day/time/where, here openly… please!!
I think it very possible BA…If we average people can use Google Earth so readily, I can only image what “Big Brother” can do…almost scary even….I have heard that they can pinoint a house and see occupants through the ceiling & walls if need be. It might be that they can only do so if they know ahead of time and can’t “zoom” in after that date…Not sure though…Good question to ponder though.
hmmmmmm,I don’t have enough memory to dl google earth but i know that can be done,my daughter looked right on the front porch of our old place in ky,so i’d say it can be done! I dunno if it was GE she used,cant remember but in Caylee’s case i did look at the dumpster she parked by!!
I miss my Google Earth!
Yes, sounds like GE CathyJo, I love that program…
Cent: I hear you loud & clear….
HollyG, yes, I terrify my older sister with tales of that covert stuff… LOL
Cathy, when did you look at the dumpster?
Sorry Cath,thats all i can find about the dog! I will keep looking tho!
Anything of interest on show today….I’m still not able to listen…everytime I try someone walks through the lobby and I have to pause…LOL! Another 2 hours and I will be at home with my own PC and have ALL night to play…Don’t have to be in tomorrow until 11:00 PM and next night too! Those of you who know me may realize this means that I will be online for about 16 hours a day the next 2 days LOL!
Yes, I think it’s worth looking into. However, I suppose that if it could be done after the fact… showing activity on that day… then we probably wouldn’t be here. So I guess I just kicked myself in the shins!!
Only thing I can remember that was interesting is I guess MG is going on a trip… Possibly!!
I think Google Earth images are updated from time to time, but not likely daily. We were able to see the tents/tarps Garrido had but those were there even before Google Earth came into existence.
Cent;
It’s so scary sometimes what actually is now possible….don’t get me started on futuristic weapons like sound wave guns or how electronic frequencies affect the human brain…:o
Back when Caylee was first reported missing,I went to ge to watch crocs….saw the swings at the old school,was being nosey,as usual.lol
Several pictures I have seen of GE sites were updated within 2 yrs of original….Our place was “filmed” within the last 2 yrs.
HollyG… exactly… I’m always thinking of those kinds of things… at one point I hounded my mother about this little piece of something in the palm of my hand, thinkingit was some kind of implant. Just couldn’t decide if it was the Gov.. or aliens. LOL
Not to got OT or ruin a good vibe but did everyone see Jan’s update on Jozlyn Martinez…So, So sad…another dumpster baby…They may never find her, suspect she may have went to incinerator….I’m crushed…she’s the same age as my little Holly….so, so sad.
True Holly’s and i can’t wait for the day when theres a way to go back and watch what ppl were doing during their crimes…..if ya know what i mean,I mean i don’t wanna be spied on..if someone does spy on me i hope they get a bigger thrill than i do..lol but just saying,it won’t be long till ya can’t pass gas without being watched!
I was wondering if there were images of cars in the area, that didn’t belong there!!
Cent; I am a conspiracy theorist from way back… 😉
On GE, Adams you can see the actual street,like a real photo?
Yes… CCTV is huge in Europe. I don’t really like the idea of a Big Brother constanly… But, if that is what it takes to save the babies… so be it!!
Good question cent…we should scope it out… I have driven down the back road there behind MH but not able to get onto Green Lane (front side) if I remember correctly. The backway in was a “hidden” driveway and leds towards Tyler.
Cathy, yes I’ve seen some GE images… that’s why it’s hard to believe that LE are not capable of capturing that night events!!
Ya know something,i wonder if one day they won’t come up with an implant of some sort to notify the le as soon as a child is reported kidnapped!
Like a cell phone,they’ll follow ya!
Unable to see any cars past trees….We can try again though…
Right Adams,like casey.i thought shoot as much money as she spent they should have alot of videos of her whereabouts!
HollyG if you do go… lets all have done our homework… regarding satellite images/GE
Tracking device type thingy…there is an implant for pets to identify them, maybe one day also a tracking device…Some people are really afraid of that type of technology, but not me…If people only knew how their DNA is already being recorded by GOV via health records, paternity tests, and the like. That’s right folks…all of these children who have been DNA identified per parents will be in the big ol database on day….So if in the future they commit a crime, their DNA will already be on file….Whoa!!!
I agree cent….If I do go, I need to be prepared!
“If you think you’re being watched….that’s going down in your file” LOL!!!
Exactly right Holly’s!
I mean shux,i’s rather it said cathy was at a nuthouse when it occured than say she waas over the body,lol
If anyone suggested that parents have their child implanted with some type of GPS device, they might be appalled. That is, until the child goes missing.
I am not sure this is the answer but looking at how often kids vanish, some type of preventive measure is needed.
If your car is stolen it is likely to be recovered. Not so for your child.
Off topic,well not really,but the next pacemaker i get will be the new ones,nothing like those in the 70’s when i first got mine,now the new ones will notify your dr. of anything that goes wrong..no matter where you or him are!But b/c i have had mine as long as i’ve had my limbs bassically,i can always tell them before they know mines going down!
So true Holly’s,ya know when i think of cindy helping get horseface off,I think ….my Lord,if it were anybody but horseface who did it she’d be bowing at le’s feet!
I meant Cath!
HollyG… yes… the “paranoid”… are on the list first!!
LOL!!!
Also if you put a couple of words that are “red flagged” together in a search… on the net… you just may have the “suits” knocking at your door… within minutes!!
That last one…. a birdie told me!!!!
I think we also need a list of things to “check out”…an agenda, if you will. Courthouse documents, places to see 7 visit, people to try to talk to etc…try to make it as efficient a possible.
Now… since I am a betting type of gal… and I am no stranger to truth or dare!!! I dare one of you!!!
It’s rather true Cent….I know several books that immediately put up red flags if purchased…I’m sure there are other things as well. Accidentally srufing into the FBI backdoor through hacker sites is probably on that list too….Ooops!
BA…it’s isn’t paranoia when they really are out to get you 😉
OMG.If the cops ever get my puter they’ll swear I done killed thousands of people,from Caylee’s case,got chlorform,duct tape,neck breaking,tn body farm,dumpster,I will be a goner! LoL
And now added to it is,dumpster,barking dof,rufies,cocaine,suitcase wiff a map,key’s and an inhaler etc……
LOL! I can see my obss’s face now….
“Lesa, why are the FBI at my hotel?” LMAO!
Cathartic… I knowwwwww!!!
CathyJo…LOL! I’ve thought the same thing….too many different searches for those types of things…
Cathy…. LMAO!!!
*Boss’s My typing dyslexia is acting up again, LOL!
Ain’t it the truth though,not to mention the deepest holes in the world!
Caseys Stumble upon!
Trying to listen to show….again…LOL!
Speaking of Stumple Upon…anybody ever use it? It’s pretty cool. I had met a girl from Italy in New Orleans a couple of yrs ago and she showed it to me…
BRB Daughter,phone!
And me with… My constant preoccupation with Spy Shows, Julius Caesar, Henry VIII money exchange… euros and pounds,etc… we make a wild group!!
LOL!!! We each have our own “talents” LOL!
Yep…. Unique in our own ways!!
HGM:
You know what happened to Cobra, sleuthing around in Satsuma. They don’t take kindly to it.
You may wind up a guest in the hotel with bars like alot of other’s have in Satsuma.
Have you thought about the dog would bark every breath when Tommy walked off and left it and went walking around in the neighborhood. I have always heard that dogs have a sixth sense when something was wrong. Maybe, that was why Tommy’s dog was having such a fit the night Haleigh went missing.
Karon, they do! Dogs have abilities to sense things humans can’t. I think it is not just a heightened sense of smell either. There have been cases of a pet knowing in advance if their owner was ill, even before the person became symptomatic. Dogs have notified people of carbon monoxide in the home even though it has no odor.
Maybe Karon….I am wonding if they we all “riled up” due to others being there who normally wouldn’t be…Joe, for one.
As per Cobra and me getting behind bars….I will be extremely carefull to not break any laws…not even trespassing, lol!
I’m up to the 1 in 4 statistic on the show….so true….sad, but true.
That doesn’t cover the unreported stuff either…
Everyone leave again? 🙁
Cathartic;
I’ve heard many stories (news articles) about pets either forewarning their owners of impending disasters or illensses or rescueing them from such…Pretty amazing really.
The two major things that still bother me:
The wedding. I can’t understand how a person can even think of getting married right after their child goes missing. Even if I they had had a wedding in planning stages, one would think they would have postponed it.
Misty’s “when someone puts a gun in your mouth” statement. That was odd thing to say, even for her. Given where and when she made the statement, I believe that actually happened to her and was weighing heavily on her mind, and the words just slipped out.
I have had another thought about why the tapes from jail may have suddenly stopped. Maybe, someone told LE what they wanted to know, and they stopped the tapes, because they are getting their case wrapped up. They may not want the case to get transferred anyplace else, so they stopped the publicity. After all, things got really quiet awfully quick. I mean, not a peep. Misty really didn’t have much else to lose, since she is going away for so long. They may have made her a good deal. Then, Tommy and Ronald may have told whatever they knew. I’m just sayin!
Yes Hollys, so have I. And it’s pretty amazing considering they were just average pets, not trained in any way to do what they did.
A dog saved my life once. He was outside and would not stop barking. I kept reprimanding him, and he would stop briefly, but then start up again stronger and louder than ever. I finally went outside and that’s when I saw a flames in the basement through the window. Once the dog knew I knew, he calmed down.
Karon, I have considered that as well. Possibly they have spoken to their attorneys and negotiations are underway between the attorneys and the DA.
I agree…I think it got too quiet all of a sudden….
I know. I have two little chiwawas that knew I was seriously ill 1 1/2 yrs ago. They wouldn’t leave my side. One of them would get down to eat, nervously, watching me the whole time. The doctors found a noncancerous tumor in my neck that was causing me to have seizures. They got it out, and I am doing much better, now, and the dogs have relaxed. They knew, more than the humans sround me how seriously ill I was.
WoW! Did it seem like to anyone else that the lawyer question was really glossed over??? or did I just “scoop” everybody with that info? LOL!!!
DO you think NG will “credit” me? LMAO!
We need to concentrate on first 48 – 72 hours per TJ….
We are off on alligators, birds and dogs tonight. What did you say about the lawyers? These animal stories can be pretty interesting, you know.
Hollys, I don’t think anyone knew. I believe you uncovered info that has not been released yet to anyone, anywhere.
Kudos!
O.K. That just takes us right back to the dogs barking, but I will try to behave.
Joe knows gator feeding info….has break-in history, allegedly puts his hands on little kids….
Ron denies arguement after gun theft….
Misty had applied for a public defender due to indigency as of Feb 18th…the day after Fields sent Padilla the Cease & Desist letter. She is being assigned a PD but no name as of yet….
So, since there is a change of attorney we are wondering if that means Misty is still in talks with LP or what changes this may mean for her defense.
I was looking at the criminal dockets for TC & any Croslin and happened to take a look at Misty’s and found the new info quiet by accident….
HGM:
I didn’t know that was accepted as a fact, yet. Has it been? If so, she may have decided she din’t have anything to lose going with LP’s offer.
No, not as far as LP is concerned but her getting a PD is a FACT….It’s posted earlier in this thread…somewhere around 1:00 pm….I’ll try to repost…
The motions were made by Fields, per court documents. But no documents show a PD has been assigned yet. It could mean Fields will be her PD. Or it could mean he is not going to handle the drug case. Hollys wanted the question asked on the show.
I just wonder what the deal is for sure, now. This is getting real interesting. Wouldn’t it be wonderful, if they found Haleigh, and all this gets settled? That Misty is a tough little nut to crack.
HollysGmom said,in February 28th, 2010 at 2:34 pm UCN: 542010CF000251XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-02-03 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: FIELDS, ROBERT M
Defendant
CUMMINGS, MISTY JANETTE
Alias
CROSLIN, MISTY JANETTE
Date # Docket Description
2010-02-03 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO DET TIM CAMPBELL
2010-02-03 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2010-02-03 2 INFORMATION – TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (28G-30KG)
2010-02-03 3 CAPIAS REQUEST FORM – BOND $250,000 NATIONWIDE
2010-02-03 4 CAPIAS ISSUED – BOND SET AT $250,000 NATIONWIDE
2010-02-09 5 MOTION AND ORDER TO TRANSPORT
2010-02-09 5 02/18/2010 ST JOHNS COUNTY
2010-02-18 6 APPEARANCE, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND FOR
2010-02-18 6 TRIAL BY JURY FILED BY ROBERT FIELDS
2010-02-18 7 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, SWORN, ARRAIGNED,
2010-02-18 7 ATT BY ROBERT FIELDS, ENTERED PLEA OF NOT GUILTY,
2010-02-18 7 SET FOR PRE TRIAL 03/31/2010.
2010-02-18 8 ORDER SETTING PRE TRIAL 03/31/2010
2010-02-18 9 ARREST REPORT – 2/18/2010
2010-02-18 9 BOOKING NUMBER: 10-00278
2010-02-18 9 BOND SET AT $250,000.00
2010-02-18 10 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG
2010-02-18 10 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
2010-02-18 10 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
2010-02-18 10 $250,000.00 SECURED BOND SET
2010-02-18 11 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS
2010-02-18 12 APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2010-02-18 13 CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED
2010-02-23 14 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
2010-02-23 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
I knew it was around 1:00 pm, Central…(post times are 1 hour ahead of my time)
It was asked on the show (thanks chatroom!)and TJ said he had no knowledge at that time and no one else on the show had that info either…Can we say …”BOMBSHELL” LOL!
It may be due to Fields hearing what Misty as saying about him and how he was handling her case and he decided why pro-bono? Let her make do with a PD…Not sure though…
Misty kept complaining on those tapes that her lawyer wasn’t doing anything for her. I am sure Fields has been pulling his hair out, dealing with her. I am sure they will get a high-priced lawyer in there pro bono, for this high-publicity case.
It could be that Misty really wanted to “work” with Padilla and Fields said no way then Misty said “I want to change attorneys”
Gotta go. I’ll be back in less than an hour!
Everything stopped when she went to court that day. No more tapes, no news stories. And you can’t help but wonder why.
It could be, also, that this is going to be a long drawn out case that Fields doen’t want to take on. Ther’s not any hope of winning, unless they prove it was too much of a set up.
Everything’s too quiet, all of sudden. Misty’s dad seemed to be getting really worried about what Misty was going to say about Tommy.
We have seen a different side of Tommy, also, that we didn’t know about. We heard about the domestic disturbances, too. His wife seems so crazy about him, but I don’t know.
Hey… I hear the “black hat” was emailed that question!!
No, it’s not a case that can be won. The only thing that might be possible is a deal for reduced charges.
I think if it were one or two times the argument of set-up might be valid. But it’s pretty hard to argue so many incidents. LE planned it that way. They weren’t going to waste their time doing anything that wouldn’t stick.
I think Hank Sr. is genuinely upset and concerned for Tommy’s fate!! When he said “she said not to worry about you, that’s when I started too” (paraphrasing)… I thought, (((Bombshell)))
BA, did you hear it…or do it?
Fess up, oh beautiful one!
Cathartic… Cathartic!!!
The barking dog, LE at Tommy’s house, Misty and Ron sitting up all night Sunday night, talking, Ron calling, 20 or 90 times that night, the weird 9-1-l call, the made up bed, dirty closthes in the dryer, Cousin Joe, hurriedly leaving town, the van scratched and moved, Ron and Misty getting married, the light left on, the door locked. all the lies and game playing, no urgency to find Haleigh. OH MY!
Here I am trying to get serious!!!
Karon… you summed up the whole year!!
I thought Hank Sr was trying to warn Tommy that he was worried about what Misty was going to tell. She has said look at Tommy and joe before, but she said it and nothing else, with it, to make anyone think she was serious. She was, also, saying things that seemed to be throwing people off.
What is a PD hollys,what info?
They sure haven’t been serious about getting down to the truth of finding Haleigh. Have they? Even TN sat bawling on NG and lied, lied, and lied some more. Ron hasn’t been serious either, so I wonder what part he played. IMO
Karon… yes, I got the feeling he is concerned about a frame up.
Cathy… PD ~~Public Defender
We ain’t heard of none of them which hopefully means,all helz fixin to break loose!
ohhh my god,i’m a dummy.now i know.LoL
I’ll tell ya,I’d hate to have a PD on those charges!
Cathy you’re far from a dummy!!! We all have our moments… remember mines… CCP~~~ Cut,Copy, Paste!!
Thats funny.who waits in anticipation for all hello to break loose!
Me for one but only in this case.lol
Karon, they went about their lives as if it never happened, imo.
LoL Adams,I think its because we use initials for all these ppl and we don’t think of the obvious..lol
Like i have done,no joke……I saw le for the first time and i was thinking Lisa….lindsey..and thought,but there are no E’s!
Thats what gets me Karon!
Speaking of which,my daughters next door neighbor is the father of 18 yr old Megan Maxwell,She has been featured on AMW Twice already,she went missing about a yr ago coming from her dads house and and nothing,no clues…though her car was burned to the ground….IMO her dad did it!you just wouldn’t believe it!
Silly me forgot to add,
Sfter saying speaking of…….
but her dad acts really weird and hasn’t shed a tear i ever seen or heard of!
Tennessee Teen Megan Maxwell Missing
Megan’s car was found on fire hours after she went missing.
Tennessee teenager Megan Maxwell called a friend at 4:27 a.m. on April 26, 2009 to say she would be home soon, but she never made it.
Less than two hours later, at 6:10 a.m, an off-duty police officer discovered Megan’s red 2001 Mitsubishi Eclipse engulfed in flames.The car was totally destroyed.
Megan’s friends describe her as a social butterfly. Now, her family and friends have teamed up with law enforcement to search the area near where Megan was last seen, and where her car was found near the French Broad River.
Cocke County High School released students from school to join in the search effort, but they found nothing.
The thing that I have found so hard to take is Jr. being left in that mess for a year. He still had to make a change of homes and, hopefully, GGSykes watched after him. She couldn’t protect him altogether, though. He was still in the pick-up on that drug deal, and they were planning to take him with them on the next one. IMO.
My God,I didn’t know that!why do people do that!!
Karon at 12:06, what did TN lie about?
I don’t know for sure if they were planning on taking him on the next deal.
I heard Misty tell the UC they had left a job to meet him, but had to go pick up Jr. and then go to another job.
But they were doing lawn work. Maybe they left a lawn job to meet the UC, and were going to another lawn job after picking up Jr.
It’s not conclusive that she meant they were going to another drug deal.
All JMO.
Gang…. off to bed!!! Ambien is starting to take effects…. Love Ya!!
I read today that GrandmaS dropped the laundy off on the back porch b/c no one was home,then we hear she brought it in,so I wonder..because if she took them to the backdoor then I’m sure she knew they used that door!
beautiful*adams (cent) said,
in February 28th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Only thing I can remember that was interesting is I guess MG is going on a trip… Possibly!!
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was that said during the show this afternoon? i’ve seen it mentioned on a some tweets and on a board but I never heard it being said and I don’t remember a thing being said in chat about it. who said it Simon or TJ and do you remember what during the show it was said, I wanted to relisten but I don’t want to hear the whole show again.
Karon, he was not in pick up on drug bust. Ron wasn’t even in his pick up. He was with his aunt and Jr was at day care. You are mistaken about that info.
I know drugs do alot to people, but what on earth? Don’t they gave any natural feelings left? If any of these people are involved in Haleigh’s disappearance, their parents are going to be crushed. I just hope Timmy, Lindsey, and Chelsea didn’t know anything about all of this. There will be alot of homeless kids.
I had noticed that Misty didn’t seem to like Tommy much during this year. He seemed crazy about her but, maybe, he was just worrying about whay she was going to tell.
Treece:
I am not going there tonight. I am not in any poor Ron and TN mood. Sorry!
Well,i hope they don’t know either,i really do!
Those kids have had a life ain’t they and always will until atleast the truth comes out!
Karon, I guess I don’t understand what you mean.
I am just giving you the facts. Ron was there in Katrina’s car, his aunts. Jr was at day care.
Is that what you are meaning, going there?
Those babies have had quite a life. I may not say all the words just right, but anyone should get my meaning.
CathyJo, it is sad it is the kids that suffer the most from bad choices that parents make.
I am not arguing over all the nitty gritty details this late at night. It has been awful!
Exactly,I don’t know why people don’t get that? If drugs and crime are in a childs life,it becomes familiar to them so when someone offers it to them they know they’ve been around it with parents so probably don’t think its bad!
Karon, I didn’t realize that we have had a problem or that I have offended you. As far as I was aware we have been able to agree to disagree on our different opinions. If I had been mistaken on something as important as a child being in a drug deal I would welcome you to tell me the truth. I was not attempting to argue with you. I felt certain it was just a mistake.
Well, Jr is out of there, now. I am just hoping he is in a better place. I hope and pray.
I am wondering about MG, too. That sounded kind of funny on the program, tonight. Didn’t it?
Treece:
I must be tired. I get mad at everyone involved in this mess because of the children. All of this will affect them forever, and it just makes me sick. Haleigh is missing, maybe dead, and we know what Jr. has been put thru.Details just don’t seem to matter much, right now.
I havent listened yet Karom,was it good? lol
I didn’t go thru drugs and alcohol as a child, but I was drug around neglected and abused. I have pain from all of that, and it will be with me forever. Extended family knew what was going on and did nothing to stop it. I am touchy about the kids. I hold all of them that have watched all of this, somewhat, responsible. Misty told them, so I have heard, that she wasn’t up to babysitting that night, and they didn’t want to keep Haleigh. They had those kids dumped off on a 17yr old girl, and that was the way they wanted it.
Then TN sits in that jail telling Ron what a wonderful son and Dad he has been. I don’t know?
The radio program was good. They were waiting, like we all are, for more details to come out. It is just so quiet!
Isn’t MC Court date coming up soon?
Niter:
I think Misty said the 8th or the 18th.
Yeah it seems to me that it was early March
I suppose Misty will have to have a new attorney by then or they will give her a delay.
Niter:
Did you listen to the radio program tonight? What did you think about it?
Haven’t listened yet but just seems there is no new news
CathyJo:
Where did you read that GSykes dropped the laundry off on the back porch because noone was home? I heard her making statements to the press how the kids were out on the front porch eating about 7:00 that evening. Has she changed her statement?
Just seems odd there has been no new tapes I mean tapes were the news and all of a sudden No tapes and you know they are all still making their calls every chance they get…Makes ya wonder if LE is not releasing tapes now or If maybe no media etc. are requesting tapes or what?
HGM: you should call Nancy Grace, seriously, just keep trying and eventually you’ll get thru. I got through one night, and omg, the cell phone reception in so bad where we live, u have to be in 1 spot and not move to be able to hear!! They told me my question was excellent, and to hang on the line, crackle,crackle, beep, signal lost.UGGGGHHHH! Of course, im so pathetic, im jumping up and down screaming, I got thru on NG…!!!!My family just rolled their eyes at me….
As far as Jr at drug deal, no but they were illing to pick him up from day care WITH the drugs in their vehicle…..That’s gonna get em. Misty plainly tells the UC that they are planning to pick up Jr from daycare as soon as the transaction is finished then Ron (and maybe Misty) were returning to the job site.
Many screamed Child Endangerment when TC had pills in his vehicle & system when he dropped his son off at bus stop and he only had about 10-20….Ron & Mity would have had 200….
Niter:
I don’t know about the tapes. It seems all of a sudden that they got quiet. Doesn’t it? We were wondering if someone has given LE the info. they wanted, but noone knows anything for sure.
Ha HA Ronfan…I felt that way when I got to talk to a few members of a favorite band on Rocklines once…The next week I got my friend on Rocklines to ask Rob Zombie a question….Trick is with those is to have a really good question….Although I always wonder how the people who ask bad questions get on, LOL!
I’m convinced Tommy never went to the house at 10pm. All we have is his word, no proof.
What about the blanket; Why did Misty in the first interviews state “my blanket was in the van they took”….What sense does that make? Then she said she only has 2 friends in town, and she hangs out w/them when she needs a break and just to get away…then she stated she knows she shouln’t hang w/them, and that she won’t be anymore..WIERD. Why would she have even said that mouthfull? Almost like she felt guilty for allowing those people around her and the kids. Would that be NayNay and Amber, Im not really up to par on that. Go back and try and find that video; I think its on you tube.
I just know Tj is on it…LOL! I hope we get an answer soon. Misty changing lawyers could be small or it could be BIG!!!
Too quiet…….
HGM:
They were already so high when Misty said they had to go pick up Jr. right now. It is just pathetic.
RonFan
Whats your opinion on why it seems that Ron has always seemed to protect/stand by Misty?
I know…Misty was literally swaying when she got back in UC’s car….
I heard real early on in the case that a neighbor saw Tommy come by there that night. I think, when Tommy admitted that, it was just confirmation to LE.
When Misty said her blanket was in the van that they took, she probably meant LE had taken the van. She didn’t have a blanket, and Haleigh’s had been peed on, so she washed Haleigh’s blanket and took one down that was covering a window for herself. That is the way I understood it, but I thought something was wrong about the blanket story from the start. She talked more about the blanket than she did about Haleigh being missing.
There’s something up with the “flurry” of calls from Ron to Misty….Whether 20, 30 or 90. There’s something to it….I don’t buy the turned off phone out of spite thing. All the young men I know would be spoiling for a fight by the time they got home….I just don’t see Misty wanting that for some petty bs….she turned off that phone for a reason!
HGM:
Yes, I think she did.
You are right T.J. is probably on it. Maybe, we will hear something soon. Misty has a court date coming up in early March, I think.
Karon…the blanket that was supposed to be on the bed that night was in the “van that they took”. THe night Haleigh was abducted. She took the one off of the window to use because the other was gone. Haleigh’s was allegedly washed.
So who “took the van” with Misty’s regular blanket in it? Why was her blanket in the van to begin with? Did they ever recover it? Is it still missing too? That’s what makes me suspect that Ron’s bedding had been changed. The missing blanket and possibly sheets.
I am so curious about what will happen next.
If so, what was on that bedding that they couldn’t hide or wash out?
I tried to find the video where MC was speaking with I believe her mom about her court date but I have not found it yet
HGM:
I am not sure if Misty was talking about LE confiscating the van for evidence or Tommy and Joe taking the van and scratching it. I don’t know why Misty’s blanket was in the van.
I heard Misty in an interview saying she washed Haleigh’s blanket, then covered her with it. Then she said, “I made my bed and then I went to bed.” It was something real close to that. She wouldn’t be needing to make her bed unless she changed the sheets.
HGM:
I do not know if Misty was talking about LE confiscating the van for evidence or Tommy and Joe taking the van and scratching it. I don’t know why Misty’s blanket was in the van.
I heard Misty in an interview saying she washed Haleigh’s blanket, then covered her with it. Then she said, “I made my bed and then I went to bed.” It was something real close to that. She wouldn’t be needing to make her bed unless she changed the sheets.
Intially it was 03/03? I think? I’ll try to help find it too….but now it is 03/31 for at least Misty & Ron…I’ll check TC, Hope, & DB as well.
I have never heard if they recovered Haleigh’s blanket, and I wonder if Haleigh’s bed sheets had been freshly changed.
Good point Karon, about the making of the bed.
I guess you could be right about the van issue…never thought of it like that…that she was saying the blanket was in the van that LE took….interesting, does make sense though….
HGM: TY
ANother good question…I wonder if LE could tell…other than obvioussuch as fresh smell.
I really do feel that if the bed really was still made it was an error. They had to change the bedding and when they remade it, they forgot and left it neat instead of slept in.
Misty said 3/8 was her next court date. That may be postponed if she is changing attorneys. Unless Fields will be in PD status; then it might not need to be postponed.
Thats what I don’t get about the blanket issue. It was the interview w/Misty wearing the now infamous jacket w/the green circles all over it, and Lisa Croslin next to her. And again, listen carefully to what she says about the 2 friends. She even ends with a statement that shes not hanging out w/them anymore.
Why was Misty’s blanket in the van in the first place:was it evidence that someone was trying to hide? She was referring to “that night” that Haleigh was taken, so thats why she had to take the Blanket that was covering the window…cuz hers(misty’s) was in the van….Guess it’s true, we have to go back to the first 24-72 hours.
It’s hard to keep all the court dates straight since she has to appear in court in two counties.
Tommy goes to court for battery on Sr on Wednesday…
UCN: 542009MM004232XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-11-19 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:
Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2009-11-20 1 ARREST REPORT – PCSO/ LEDBETTER (ARREST 11-19-09)
2009-11-20 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 09-04807
2009-11-20 1 BATTERY DVR/ HANK CROSLIN SR
2009-11-20 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 11-20-09
2009-11-20 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
2009-11-20 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
2009-11-20 2 $504.00 SECURED BOND SET
2009-11-20 2 NO VIOLENT CONTACT WITH HANK CROSLIN SR
2009-11-23 3 $504.00 A-1 24HR CITY BEST BAIL BONDS#2236038 11-20-09
2009-12-03 4 INFORMATION – DOMESTIC BATTERY
2009-12-03 5 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (01-14-2010)
2009-12-03 6 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (01-14-2010)
2010-01-14 7 ARR MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, WAIVING RIGHT TO COUNSEL
2010-01-14 7 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY – PRE-TRIAL SET 03/03/10
2010-01-14 8 WAIVER OF COUNSEL
2010-01-14 9 PRE-TRIAL ORDER (03-03-2010)
2010-01-15 10 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NOLLE PROSEQUI
I don’t know why Misty’s blanket was in the van, unless it was something about her being on that 3 day drug week-end. I wonder if any of that part of the story even made sense to LE? If Haleigh’s sheets were fresh and Misty’s sheets were fresh, that may be why LE says Haleigh was never put to bed that night. I would like to know if GGSykes had just brought them clean sheets, and if so, if she told LE she had just brought those clean sheets over that night.
ronfan, I can tell you why Misty’s blanket was in the van.
Tommy’s docket record for drug sales….Moved to ST John’s county…I will pull reords from there.
UCN: 542010CF000147XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty:
Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2010-01-21 1 COMPLAINT – PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (12/22/09)
2010-01-21 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2010-01-21 1 TRAFFICKING OXYCODONE
2010-01-21 2 WARRANT ISSUED – BOND SET AT $100,000.00
2010-01-22 3 ARREST REPORT: TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (1/20/10)
2010-01-22 4 MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF
2010-01-22 4 BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT’S
2010-01-22 4 RELEASE ON BAIL (“NEBBIA HEARING”)
2010-01-22 5 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
2010-01-22 5 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (“NEBBIA HEARING”)
2010-01-22 5 PRIOR TO DEFENDANT’S RELEASE ON BAIL
2010-01-22 6 ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO ST JOHNS COUNTY FROM
2010-01-22 6 PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA
2010-01-22 7 WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
2010-02-03 8 INFORMATION – TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (4G – 14G)
2010-02-03 9 MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIV 52
2010-02-03 10 ORDER TRANSFERRING CASE TO DIV 52
2010-02-03 11 MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL
sorry posted too fast.
When Misty left on Thurs after her & Ron’s fight she took her belongings, including her blanket with her. When she was dropped off at Tommy’s early Sunday morning all of her stuff was put in the van. Monday she had still not unloaded her things back at Rons house.
If I were Mom and Pop, I would stay away from the courthouse. They seem to be keeping Croslin’s these days.
Wanna see DB’s????
Treece:
That makes sense.
HGB:
Yeah! She is an interesting character.
I have been trying to find old articles about Tommy selling his red pickup shortly after Haleigh was kidnapped. I have not found any. Do you know where any info on that pick up is at.
Thanks, Teresa
UCN: 541979MM001568XXAXMX
File Date: Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:
Defendant
BROCK, DONNA L
Alias
Date # Docket Description
That is NOT a misprint…SHe’s listed but without ANYTHING filed for or against her? Not in Putnam….Why then is she listed? IS soemthing coming, drug deal related for Putnam?COuld it be the smuggling charge I have been theorizing about? SPeculation!!!! JMO
Gesh…I never knew there were so many criminal Brocks in Putnam….LOL! 🙂
Niter: It appears to me that in the beginning Ron did stand by Misty, probably b/c of the shock and emotions of what happened. I noticed though as things progressed and more was exposed, and Ron was questioned about Misty, in usual Ron fashion he began to answer w/his careful, giving out “just enough info” style. point in case: when NG asked him about the LD results, he didn’t say yes,or no; his response was a careful: “Im not a polygrapher”,hmmm but if u watch his eyes, he doesnt even blink, another ? he answered was something like “its not inconsistent w/what shes saying to LE”…He’s very careful, I dont think in a guilty way, but in a savvy way; I find that the only time he “opens up” w/his own opinions is when it pertains to his feelings on his daughter. I haven’t ever heard him directly make statements to defend or incriminate ANYONE. Think about it. That’s why I say he is smarter than any of em’!
Everything Donna is just plain weird. From her being involved with Misty via TM, to the road rage thing, to the drug deals. And then not much by way of jail tapes on her.
Did we know about this???
UCN: 542010CF000023XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-04 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SYKES, HOPE A
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2010-01-04 1 ARREST REPORT – PPD OFF/HUSKEY (ARREST 1/3/10)
2010-01-04 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 10-00026
2010-01-04 1 POSSESSION OF SCHEDULE II SUBSTANCE
2010-01-04 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 1/3/10
2010-01-04 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
2010-01-04 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
2010-01-04 2 DEFENDANT RELEASE
2010-02-02 3 INFORMATION (POSSESSION OF SCHEDULE II SUBSTANCE)
2010-02-02 4 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03/02/2010)
2010-02-08 5 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AND APPOINT REGIONAL CONFLICT
2010-02-08 5 COUNSEL
2010-02-10 6 MOTION TO TRANSFER
2010-02-11 7 ORDER GRANTING DIVISION CHANGE TO “52”
Ronfan:
Do ya think he Ron knows anything?
UCN: 542010CF000143XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SYKES, HOPE A
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2010-01-21 1 COMPLAINT – PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (1/13/10)
2010-01-21 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2010-01-21 1 TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE MORE THAN 14 GRAMS LESS
2010-01-21 1 THAN 28 GRAMS
2010-01-21 2 WARRANT ISSUED – BOND SET AT $150.000.00
2010-01-22 3 ARREST REPORT: TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (1/20/10)
2010-01-22 4 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG
2010-01-22 4 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
2010-01-22 4 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
2010-01-22 4 $150,000.00 SECURED BOND SET
2010-01-22 5 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS
2010-01-22 6 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2010-01-22 7 MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF
2010-01-22 7 BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT’S
2010-01-22 7 RELEASE ON BAIL (“NEBBIA HEARING”)
2010-01-22 8 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
2010-01-22 8 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (“NEBBIA HEARING”)
2010-01-22 8 PRIOR TO DEFENDANT’S RELEASE ON BAIL
2010-01-22 9 WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
2010-02-03 10 INFORMATION – TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (14G-28G)
2010-02-03 11 MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIVISION 52
2010-02-03 12 ORDER OF TRANSFER TO DIVISION 52
2010-02-03 13 MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL
2010-02-08 14 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AND APPOINT REGIONAL CONFLICT
2010-02-08 14 COUNSEL
2010-02-09 15 ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE
2010-02-10 16 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL
Misty Croslin St John’s County
3/8/2010 1:30:00 PM FELONY ARRAIGNMENT BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328
per St John’s County website records search…
Thanks Treece, that makes sense, cuz she was referring to the actual events of before she put the kids to sleep, and she said Haleighs blanket had pee on it, and since my (misty) blanket was in the van THEY took, (My god, who is THEY) THAT’S A BIG QUESTION, DID ANYONE EVER FIND OUT WHO “THEY” WERE.** anyway, thats when she said she had to take another blanket off the window. **ok, help me here, who the heck was in this VAN?? And now Im wondering if Tommy’s red truck was the one Cousin Joe was spotted w/in Tennessee?
Misty Cummings AKA Croslin
St John’s County docket
(Most recent filing at top)
2/8/2010 D.H.S.M.V. INFORMATION SHEET (SPELLING OF MIDDLE NAME)
2/8/2010 FELONY ARRAIGNMENT SET FOR 03/08/2010 AT 1:30 PM IN 328/ , JDG: BERGER, WENDY W
2/8/2010 PROSECUTOR: ROYS, JACQUELYN ASSIGNED
2/3/2010 INFORMATION
2/3/2010 FILED SEQ: 1 SAME – (893.135 1C1C) TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (28 G – 30 KG)
1/21/2010 (COPY) ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO ST JOHNS COUNTY FROM PUTNAM FLORIDA
1/21/2010 (COPY) ORDER REQUIRING PRODCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING) PRIOR TO DEFENDANT’S RELEASE ON BAIL-PUTNAM COUNTY
1/21/2010 (COPY) MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT’S RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)-PUTNAM COUNTY
1/21/2010 FIRST APPEARANCE FORM
1/21/2010 CAPIAS/WARRANT EXECUTED ON 01/20/2010 FOR SWORN COMPLAINT FILED
1/21/2010 CAPIAS/WARRANT ISSUED ON 01/20/2010 FOR SWORN COMPLAINT FILED
1/21/2010 JUDGE BERGER, WENDY W: ASSIGNED
1/21/2010 CASE FILED 01/21/2010 CASE NUMBER 10000141CFMA
1/21/2010 SWORN COMPLAINT
1/20/2010 ARREST SEQ: 1 – (893.135 1C1C) TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (28 G – 30 KG)
1/19/2010 SWORN COMPLAINT SEQ: 1 – (893.135 1C1C) TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (28 G – 30 KG)
Hmmmmm Hope arrested earlier for drugs …didn’t know that!
Donna Braock
St John’s County Docket
4/6/2010 9:00:00 AM FELONY PRETRIAL BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328
3/8/2010 1:30:00 PM FELONY ARRAIGNMENT BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328 COMPLETED
2/17/2010 1:30:00 PM FELONY HEARING BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328 COMPLETED
2/17/2010 1:30:00 PM CRIM BOND HEARING BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328 COMPLETED
2/17/2010 1:30:00 PM CRIM BOND HEARING BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328 RESET
2/10/2010 1:30:00 PM CRIM BOND HEARING BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328 CONTINUED
What’s weird is her Felony arrainment is set for 03/08/2010 but it is listed as completed already….
niterbug….me either…..
The only thing I know about the red truck was when Misty said that they say they came after her in a red truck. You know my brother used to own a red truck. My dad had paid him$xxx.00, amd Tommy sold it right out from under him. She said something real similar on the voice anaysis test.
DB’s most recent filing:
2/22/2010 ORDER ON DEFENDANT’S MOTION FOR REDUCTION OF BAIL (DENIED)
Ronfan, I don’t think joe could have been in that red pick up. Tommy sold that truck just a few days after Haleigh was kidnapped.
HGmom, DENIED, don’t you know that is a word they hate.
Also Niter, I know ya’ll are gonna think I’m crazy, but I’m still convinced Ron doesn’t trust Misty, nor anyone for that matter; I think he is on a one man vigilante course. I still believe he put himself in that drug stuff on purpose, realizing it would be a set-up, remember Misty saying to UC, “Ron keeps asking me, are u sure this isn’t a set-up?”, just like the Donna Brock thing; I don’t think he’s protecting Misty, I think he’s just trying to keep going one step ahead of LE to get the answers and trip everyone up. I think he’s messing w/everyone big time. I truly think the only, ONLY thing he cares about is finding Haleigh, and everything else he’s doing is a front. JMO, I don’t know why, there’s just something different and real about him. Look at his mug shots, he looks smug and plain darn happy that it went down. Everyone elses looks like hell.
I have wondered if DB was working for LE on this. The way she was smiling when she was in court. That did not look like an unhappy woman to me.
Even though I think in the end a good lawyer will really use those denials and excessive $$ amounts against LE. It is likely that will work in DBs favor, even though we don’t want anything in her favor. lol
Ronfan:
I have considered that Ron was the one that set Misty up, but the thing that holds me back is Ron was so high on that UC tape. He, also, popped a pill for the world to see. I wouldn’t think that would have gone down that way. Also, I wonder why they jerked Jr. out of that home so fast, if they knew Ron wasn’t truly in trouble. Another thing that makes me wonder is that so many people saw Ron drugged and with a handful of pills. On one of those NG tapes, Ron was definitely drugged.
HGM; Anything on Ron’s court dates?
Has Tommy had another battery charge in Putnam County, other than the one against Sr? I know he has one from Flagler and would have had 2 if the charges hadn’t been dropped and a violation of protective injunction case dropped. Lindsy!!! If it turns out the TC really did hurt Haleigh, I’m gonna have a hrad time not resting some blame on those who could have made sure TC was not out hurting people but chose instead to serve themselves.
If this case with Sr is his 3rd offense, does that mean he’s f=getting the three strikes rule used against him? I gotta go check Putnam records again…
I really would like to believe that Ron is innocent, and I hope it turns out that way. I don’t know if he had a part in Haleigh’s disappearance or not.
Ronfan: Don’t worry I don’t think your crazy! I just like hearing everyones thoughts regardless cause it helps me to keep looking at this whole situation/mess from every angle!
Me too, Karon. I don’t want him to be involved because it’s bad enough when a child is hurt without it being by someone they trust.
Well, bedtime for me. I am sorry I got cross with you, Treece. I was just on a mad about those kids and tired. I don’t think we have had any problems. Goodnight all.
I know, I just can’t get past his so often described arrogant and controlling personality; I really think the man doesn’t give a rat’s a** about what anyone thinks of him at this point. Knowing me, I’ll probably start imagining maybe it was a fake pill, cuz you know, I gotta believe in my Ron. I think I need a “Ron intervention”. Goin to bed finally, goodnight all, thanks for the great conversations and company!!
HollysGmom said,in February 28th, 2010 at 2:47 pm Ronald’s Docket File
Sorry Niterbug, just trying to save space….It’s posted at that time earlier today..most recent filings….exact same as Misty’s last two entires.
Cathartic:
Exactly. I don’t want it to be Ron.
If Ron didn’t have anything to do with Haleigh going missing I just wonder what he may have learned since that night??
ronfan…on your behalf….we only saw the pill in his lips…we never actually saw him swallow it! LOL! Sweet Dreams!
Karon, I have my off days too, no problem. Sweet dreams to you all. I am going to bed, too.
Night Treece!!! Maybe there will be news in AM…We can only hope!
Misty’s Legal name is:
CROSLIN CUMMINGS, MISTY JANETTE
CROSLIN, MISTY JANETTE (Alias)
CUMMINGS, MISTY JANETTE (Alias)
Hank Jr’s “referred to Division 52” means…
Judge Terry LaRue
Division 52
P.O. Box 758
Palatka, FL 32178
Phone (386) 329-0266
Fax (386) 329-1275
He currently hears civil and criminal cases at the Putnam County Courthouse in Palatka.
per his website….
TY for all your detective work, Hollys. That’s a lot of info you dug up!
Ok…check this out…
So far, Ronald, MIsty & Sr are all going to pre-trial on 03/31/2010
ANyone else find that odd? I’m going to re-check on the rest…BRB
I’m not following you. Why is it odd? It may be odd, I just am not seeing why.
What is ODD, is DB. From start to finish I can’t figure out what’s going on with her. And why her docket shows things as completed already. At least she is still in jail; I just checked.
Tommy’s charges from Battery to Sr filed 1/15/10
Nolle prosequi (pronounced /ˈnɒli ˈprɒsəkwaɪ/;[1] Latin: [ˈnolːe ˈproːsekwiː]) is a Latin legal phrase meaning “to be unwilling to pursue.”[2] It is the term used in many common law criminal jurisdictions to describe a prosecutor’s application to discontinue criminal charges before trial, or up until, but before verdict.[3]
Looks like he won’t have to face that charge afterall….
Sr. must have dropped the it. If he made the complaint in the first place I think he is entitled to drop it. And it sounds like he has done that.
They are ALL set to pre-trial hearings before the same judge on the same day….
Ronald, Misty, Jr, Sr, Lisa…going to check on Hope & DB…
DB’s is 4/6
DB does not have any charges from Putnam.
LOL it’s going to be a family reunion in the courtroom that day. Maybe there will even be a wedding, ya never know with this bunch.
Maybe R and M will tie the knot again so they can’t testify against each other.
Even Hope is being “transferred to Division 52” so she too will stand before JUdge LaRue…just no date yet…anyone care to guess? Her previous charge is also under Judge LaRue.
Whatever Putnam Has on DB it’s under Judge Peter T Miller…No listing as to what charge, if any….Why list a judge but no charges?
Maybe this is the date I should go to Putnam…LOL! I can “report” from the courthouse for yous guys. LOL!
Wasn’t Lisa’s most recent arrest in Putnam? Wal-mart theft thingy? It must not yet be on the docket as it’s not showing up yet. Lisa got probation for check theft(s) but this new charge should VOP her….10 days mandatory in jail….OOOps!
Walmart in Palatka if I recall correctly.
Maybe consolidations are done to save money, but that still wouldn’t explain Hank Sr and Lisa being on the same day.
DB is a puzzler, all the way around. Her entire involvement with Misty from beginning to end, it’s all just too weird.
I wonder if the next info we get will be someone gets out on bond, or other persons are arrested. Because I do think something’s brewing.
I need sleep. I’m in a different time zone but still it is getting late here. ‘nite…
*prayers for Haleigh*
DB has filed for a NEEBA hearing courts response (Taken under advisement) filed 02/17/10
motion for bond reduction filed 02/22/10
We have this to look forward to
03/08/10 Felony Arrainment
Night…I’m getting tired too! I’ve got more to look into tomorrow…
Misty
3/8/2010 1:30:00 PM FELONY ARRAIGNMENT BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328
Same as DB….co-defendants?
There will be 30 Felony Arrainment cases heard that afternoon by Judge Wendy Berger…Misty & DB are just 2…
Judge Berger will also be hearing 1 felong bond hearing (not our girls) and 12 Felony VOP arrainments that same timeframe….1:30 PM until 5:00 PM
Hey Guy’s,I have been reading and looking around online and i found this link if you are curious about Satsuma,it has pix of the trailer from every direction,streets,police stn,memaws,tyler street,the witnesses homes,dumpster,Ma Barker,LoL Adams loves her….LoL well you name it they got it and theyre large pix,easy to see and probably 100 or more!
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94620
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Ok,while i was reading i also read that Misty told the hypnotist she helped Haleigh with her homework,so I wondered if maybe the le has that or proof she didn’t because there was none,I don’t know but i wonder?
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Heres the link for the hypnotist session,it is the transcript,i can’t post it all here but if ya want to see it heres the link and a sample!
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88270
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I went to the kitchen and I seen the back door was open so I started freaking out about the back door.So I ran to my bedroom and got my phone
–>and then um I tried to call Ronald
–>he didn’t answer
—>well before I called Ronald
–>I turned around, while I was grabbing my phone,
–>I turned around and saw that Haleigh was gone and I tried calling over and over again, I was freaking out, looking under beds, in closets, everywhere and screaming her name.
She goofed there didn’t she!
he didn’t answer
—>well before I called Ronald
–>I turned around, while I was grabbing my phone,
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Now I dunno about yall,but if Misty woke up,saw the door open and Haleigh was gone,why didn’t she go out there first? Call a neighbor or just raise her voice if she was scared but it is a trailer park!they’d have heard her!!
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I gotta go out with my yungin today but I’ll see ya’s later! Save my seat,I finally got the hay just the way i want it!And Adam’s the cow better not eat it either!LoL
“Three may keep a secret if two of them are dead.”
Benjamin Franklin
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I like that quote,the truth will come out sooner or later!! Cause they’re among the living!
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Heres an interesting article about Joe Overstreet.look’s awfully shady….IMO
and about the gun Hank Jr took!
The complaint that put Hank Croslin Jr, Misty Croslin’s brother, behind bars on a grand theft charge!
http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/the-complaint-that-put-hank-croslin-jr-misty-croslins-brother-behind-bars-on-a-grand-theft-charge/
Remember Ron said that the word around the jail is that since Judge Berger is a woman, she will probably be really hard on Misty..
I’m sure they’ll all be first, so the court room won’t be filled for too long w/observers; usually they ask that anyone who doesn’t have anything to do w/the case or not related to/or family members, “please step out”…LOL like anyone’s gonna do that!!
The thing with Ron saying that about the Judge, naming them and all… makes ME wonder if he’s trying to sabotage LE’s efforts, to me that’s not something that is just floating thru the jail… he mentioned specific folk on audio. Yes, I can’t believe he didn’t have “ill” intentions.
About Donna Brock: I just asked my son (he’s 22 now, but when he was younger, unfortunately he had a problem w/drugs, so we have had some knowledge of this court “language”…we were fortunate to have alot of support, and he’s GREAT now)anyway, he said that one of the reasons no charges are listed is that it could be what is known as a CONFIDENTIAL MATTER!!
Beautiful adams, omg,ur absolutely right..inmates usually do know about all the judges and their personalities and style, BUT,your right, how could Ron have even known who Misty’s judge would be? That was like only 2 days after the arrests, right? Aw man, what’s goin’ on here?? There’s no way he would have been able to have known that…unless it’s always the same Judge for Felonies, idk; but yeah, that is definitely NOT something he should of said.
Here’s a theory from my warped mind: Maybe LE had Ron say that, (and we know Ron knew he was being recorded) for the purpose of Misty hearing it, so she would get scared and panic at the thought of going before that Judge; remember Ron said since the Judge was a woman she would give Misty the MAXIMUM sentence? (could it maybe been included in the tapes they had her listen to,to make her break down about Ron) Maybe the prosecuters or LE thought it would be an effective way to make her plea bargain, or give them information? (but I still don’t think the poor girl knows anything pertinent)
What happens if she does indeed have to deal with that Judge… I think her attorney will have some serious reasons for an investigation into PCSD, Prosecutors Office, etc. Would LE really risk it, by using this unpredictable hot-head in that capacity. Remember, we only hear it from Ron, that LE wanted to use him against Misty, and as far as I can see… he never clarified if he did cooperate. The convo with his mom, was vague… and a bit rehearsed… not in a “good” way.. imo
I thought he told his mom that the cop friend “Jason” pulled Misty out of her cell and gave her cigarettes, and had her listen to the tapes of Ron crying over missing his children, and that’s when she cried “real tears”; I’m getting way way confused; You all know way more than me, (I learned that quick enough!) As for the judge thing, yeah, why would he say that on video??? Her felony arraignment is set for 3-08,w/Judge Berger; our “Courthouse Reporter” covering the case,HollysGmom, supplied this info!!
Well, if I were Misty… or her Attorney… I’d be fighting loudly!!!
BaC: Okay, I’m completely bummed now: I was flipping through some videos of the drug bust, and I swear I saw Ron slip a 2nd pill in his mouth………WTH??? That’s it, I aint’never,never,ever,buyin’ him no mo’ boxer shorts! LOL
Gotta go do some housework, housewife stuff, so hubby doesn’t know I’ve been on comp. all morning! Thanks for the conv.; hope your feeling better today…
I believe there is pill slippage!! Just don’t know how many times… But, once is too many!!
{sigh} no one here.
Just left the other thread, hoping to find intelligent life here. I mean, I’m very tolerant and respectful of others’ rights to have opinions but when they are just plain in-your-face insistent that everyone agree with them, they lose more credibility than they gain. And it becomes a waste of cyberspace, imo.
*prayers for Haleigh*
Sorry, I didn’t check over here at that time… I was feeling the same!!
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