I need to leave this case for about a week. I’m confused, tired, and just sick of one whack job that has found their way to this blog (not you BA, Simon and crew, m2c, and a few others). I’m not naming the person. Anyway, I’ll check in about a week from now. Won’t stop praying for you Haleigh.

BA you have mail.

cathartic, i want mail too…(sad face)

oh okay…thanks, now I don’t feel left out.

I guess I will go hang out with the hubs for awhile, tommorrow he will be 71 years old, and i wanna’ make em feel special!

Have fun methinks!!!

ba(cent)…well played on the other article.

I didn’t like Art for a while because he played into NG’s hand too easily. But, he’s getting better! He’s starting to slip in a comment here and there that doesn’t necessarily go along with NG’s views.

lol I HATE the fact that I watch NG and give her ratings, but I do!! (For this case only) And I seeth thru most of it!

I am looking forward to the program Sunday. I have been following the Somer Thompson case, so I will be interested in hearing what T.J. has to report on that, and I am always interested in the Cumming’s case. It is never dull. LOL

methinks – I sent you mail! A personal message! Because you joined it today! Check the forum! Near the top on the right it reads “inbox.” Click on that.

beautiful*adams (cent) -Thanks for sharing! I was so ashammed. Glad I am not alone! lol

boldone – i agree with what you say. it fits. as i said, i only have theories..and weirder, i wonder if any of them tie together. im NOT a ron/misty/crytal fan. i want to know where or what happened to haleigh and see ALL involved pay for the past year.

i asked 2 questions just to clarify fact or fiction. period.

yes ba(cent) that is exactly the video i am referring to.

Bold… you are never alone… sometimes it’s a quick tune in to see the topic but then becomes a nauseas visit… go figure!! But I do like the attorney that rhymes, LOL!!

Beautiful..can you answer one ?? for me?? Why every phone call that comes in for NG is about loving her & the twins?? Are they paying these people to call in? What is up with that?? lol

Beautiful..I am tired. And crabby-lol

Bold… my thoughts on that I don’t quite get it either. I thought at first it was because of her struggles… but now… I’m thinking it’s a way for folks to get on air!! When was the last time a negative comment came through? (not talking of negative comments about her children). Just negative comments disagreeing with her!!

Being a “victim” is one thing.
Being an out right bytch like she is to her guests is another. Its sickening.

Negative comments don’t get through on NG. A person who calls has to give their question before being put through. All calls are screened and they play with a several second delay. If a person says they are going to say one thing and then tries to say something else once they get put through, the call is dropped. That’s what’s happening each time you see NG ask for a specific caller and it appears as they the call was “lost.”

And that’s why all the callers are pretty much saying or asking whatever the host wants them to.

Boldone: I am sorry you were offended by my emailing someone. I had something to say that was not appropriate to post here. I apologize if it was rude; that certainly was not my intent.

plzstfu. Here is the video I think you’re looking for. It may not post immediately due to links sometimes go in moderation.
Hope this helps and hope you can see it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E32-t1uLY_M

ba(cent) i agree…..i have searched thru many vids, i remember seeing it early on but now cant find it…

Plz….. go here!!!!

http://www.bloggernews.net/123018

Here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E32-t1uLY_M&feature=related

Hi Paw…. you got magical powers!!!!!

cent, did you find the video you are looking for? I thought it was filmed by Geraldo but I have looked for an hour and haven’t found it.

Treece, I already got it posted hun. I have that video on my desktop.

Hi Paw!!!! good to see you. I see your post now, thanks.

Plz… I don’t know the one you’re speaking of!

cent I am glad she found it, that is the one that makes my stomach flip – that look Marie gives Crystal is so eerie.

. there was a video interview (within the first few days of haleighs disappearance) by a news agency with crystal and marie when they were asked point blank ‘what do you think happened to haleigh?’ and they both looked at each other and paused before answering..i think this was at one time on newsjax…i want to find that video
**********************Sheppard smith,ill get it,i have always kept a close eye on that vid,brb

Treece… I agree it was a eerie… and as one that doesn’t really believe that they are involved… I did NOT like the vibe, it’s a sinister feel to that too!!! I just don’t get them at all… I’ve always felt that they ALL are hiding something!!

The transcript is here,
http://batteredmomslosecustody.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/fl-mom-loses-custody-battle-now-may-never-see-daughter-again/
video:
http://batteredmomslosecustody.wordpress.com/2009/02/15/shep-smith-interviews-haleigh-cummings-mother-grandmother/

Especially watch marie about i think 3:10 to 3:15 mark
Very peculiar!

I have been reading the posts here for almost a year now and I appreciate all the information that is shared. I may have posted here once before (or maybe it was another site and I am confused) about Donna Brock when it first came out that Misty had a new friend or maybe it was the road rage incident. Anyway if it was here some of you will remember reading my post about DB and her BiSexualality and Swinging LifeStyle. Now I am the one curious about the lack of coverage on her, like phone calls, conversations with visitors, drug bust video, ect. I know of one call that was released and that messed up video (unlike the others of M and R.) Does anyone know what ever happened about the courts supposed to verify where the money came from to bond her out before she could bond out?

Either that or shes found a million kids face down in canals!

I hope you are right Paws!!and i understand,it killed me to be here yesterday but at the same time it killed me not to be too! weird!

Paw.. we wish you the best, and you’re very missed. But we understand, and are very happy when we see you!!

n/g said misty eats better than she does in jail? Yea right!! I don’t blast her for yakkin,but atleast let it be true!!

Paws,where did you hear that and when was that?

Exactlyyyy Adams,I am glad she got married and had babies but i don’t like hearing that shes the only woman who ever gave birth lol,and she has never sinned.lol but i do wish she’d been on my husbands case!

I heard about the supposed letter the day Crystal went to court to get custody of Jr. If it was just a rumor about the letter then I’ll just chalk it up as that.

im still searching for the vid of ron crying then getting serious when asked about MC. its on the all the newsjax articles, when you click video on the stories it shows the timeline piece. part of that timeline shows him in a blue on blue striped shirt crying…there IS a video of that same interview that shows his mom and him and later his reaction when asked about MC. will find full length i hope. im certain it was in the first 5-10 days of haleigh’s disappearance. thx to all for the other info to answer my questions.

I don’t understand how Crystal got Jr. in the first place. But I’m not a judge, so I can’t do anything about it.

Okay, then I guess until a letter is produced, I’ll just chalk it up for now. Thank You.

PAW69 said,in February 26th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Sorry,i was referring to your post!

http://www.newsrunner.com/videos/ronald-cummings/1/1?ref=%2Fentity%2Fnation%2Fronald-cummings%2F3033786161%2F0%2F0%3Fsummaryon%3D1%26sg%3Dall
This link i found last night,it has just videos of the case!

Is M2C here?

Cathy,
Even tho I feel she failed the LieD, I question the guy even saying that to her. I think he was full of it too.

m2c♥ said,in February 26th, 2010 at 9:19 pm methinks – I sent you mail! A personal message! Because you joined it today! Check the forum! Near the top on the right it reads “inbox.” Click on that.
##### thanks m2c..I feel pretty special!!! andI think I”m actually starting to figure this thing out! YIPPPEEE night now!

Which LieD? lol. Sorry, She’s taken so many.

Sorry SouthernBelle… you weren’t being ignored… yes, I wonder about the lack of vids/auds… Isn’t she in one of the UC vids.. wearing that hat… I think she and M were sporting a beanie.

im still searching cathyjo. at this point, its just for my own answers and certainly dont want to stir up anything in either direction! i know for certain it was in the first days, it was a local news chan video and he was in a blue on blue striped shirt…it started with him and TN in a yard (didnt look like actual crime scene) maybe in tn’s yard? not sure. they both talked, then he was in front of a minivan crying then got serious real fast when asked about MC.

bedtime for me. if i find it tomorrow i will post it, otherwise thx to others for giving link to vid on CS and MG i asked about before.

There is a partial 9-1-1 call with the background turned up made by Geraldo. It doesn’t go as far as the part that someone requested, but it has some interesting background on it, if you listen carefully. You can google it at Geraldo 2/21/09. There are 4 tapes in this series. The 9-1-1 call is on part 1. It is the tape with a picture of Crystal with a yellow top on and her mother being interviewed.

Yeah, I’m not so sure about all that BS with TM and the tests ect. anyways. So I’ve basically just put those things in a box for now.

If anyone sees M2C please let her know she was right…and I was wrong….I just read all the posts from MOO on the last article…HOLY COW…no pun intended (well, maybe a little)…I think MOO has madcow disease! I was REALLY hopeful that we’d get someone from LE on here that could provide some good insight…but alas, my hopes were short lived. I am sorry if MOO truly has ovarian cancer but she has caused me to withdral my support with her bizarre and inflamatory posts. My apologies to M2C.

Karon,you mentioned that before and i have looked ever since!!

But his daughter was missing,why would you not answer? he didn’t know who took Haleigh??

CathyJo, I can’t answer for his actions. But to be honest, If my child is missing, The last thing I want to be on, is the phone. That’s where family and friends come in to help. Answer the phone when people are flooding it. People react differently to different things. I’m not going to condemn someone just because they didn’t answer the phone. We have no clue who was calling at that moment, and we never will know. Heck, as far as we know, it could have been a bill collector, ya know.

Paws,what i am saying is what if the kidnapper was calling,thats all i meant?? lol

Karon Cox said,in February 26th, 2010 at 11:16 pm

There is a partial 9-1-1 call with the background turned up made by Geraldo…………

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcMkLE5fhk0

Where Ron can be heard saying, “We’re f’d. I had nothing to do with this” and then Misty starts talking about waking up, those are snippets from their interviews and not from the 911 call. Geraldo pieced together the 911 tape and other interviews and it’s very confusing.

Cathy… talking about her meltdowns… and her comments about Ron’s family. I think she would never speak out that way towards them if she wasn’t becoming un-hinged. She very well may be dropping hints, I often think that. But I could be wrong!!

fir me though i wouldnt have to see whose calling,id answer every single call!imo

Caller ID 😛 lol. I know what you are saying CathyJo. I hear ya. I’m just not 1 to knit pick at every little thing. I’m not saying you are doing that. And I understand what you are saying.

If it was the person who kidnapped Haleigh, They would have left a message or called back and we would have known about it already.

jb, I haven’t seen m2c post since I’ve been here this evening. And I have no clue who this MOO person is. I missed that whole ordeal obviously. That’s the only reason I didn’t respond.

jb, you aren’t invisible, I think M2c is gone for tonight but I know she will see your comment in the morning. I am sure she will appreciate your kindness in coming back to apologize about it. She usually gets on early in the morning.

JB…. you are family!!!
M2C did post earlier that she was calling it a night.

PAW – well, MOO came on here claiming to be LE and I was REALLY hopeful she could be helpful and give us some extra insight….but just read her most recent posts on the last article….WOW…it was obvious her children weren’t posting…she was….saying it was her kids….I had tried to welcome her to our little family and give her the benefit of the doubt…even defending her to M2C. Obviously M2C saw right through her little game….I just wanted M2C to know that I concede. SHE WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO right….and I’m officially turning in my “Welcome to BNN” sign for new bloggers….and replacing it with a “NO COWS ALLOWED” sign. SHEEESSSHHH! Going to go clean up the cow patties now…..it is the least I can do for my blunder…dang cows!

HHHHMMMMMM, Glad I missed out on the drama lol. But I’m happy to see that you came back to make a mends with m2c.

So, now that I’ve gotten that off my chest…what’s going on with our Haleigh Bug. Anything new? As much as I’ve tired of the videos of Misty and the hillbilly bunch, we sure could use something new. I’m hoping LE is getting plenty of info from the parts they have redacted. I’m hoping one of them has really slipped and given up some info LE can use to bring our baby home.

Did everyone leave again? Let me guess…I tracked cow crap into the room!

I’m sure the attorney is trying to make this into another movie based case like Caylee’s case. The longer it takes for anyone to talk, the more drama, the better the movie/book.

Remember who we’re talking about here. Misty!!! Although, I don’t think she’s telling her attorney something different. She wants out way to badly.

Maybe this is why it was stated for her to get a new attorney. I can’t remember who said it though. I’ve seen too many videos and watched too much on NG lol. Because her attorney hasn’t even called her or visited her from what I have gathered.

Pro Bono. Money making cases with movie/book deals.

You know, I haven’t heard any of her family members state they’ve been talking to her atty either…..have you? You’d think they’d be relaying messages to him from Misty and getting him to work with LP. I still don’t understand how any of these people can afford an atty….these tax returns can only go SO far. I don’t even understand how all these people GET a tax return….last time I check burglary and drug dealing didn’t provide
W-2’s! LOL

I think it’s confusing because of the date of the tapes and the letter was recent. Since we are “behind” so to speak… because we weren’t privilege to them at the time she was making those claims to Ma and Pa. I hope I didn’t just make it any more confusing!

Yes.. I can totally see a book and or movie of the week!!

well, time for me to call it a night. Just wanted to let M2C know she was right about MOO and check for any updates on the case. Take care PAW.

Night all.

I don’t see the deal going through. Misty either is involved and isn’t going to tell anything she knows OR she knows nothing and she’ll lie and blame anyone she can think of and they’ll be able to prove it to be a lie….so…I think she’s staying put.

At this point, We can only do 1 thing…. Put this in God’s hands. Insanity will catch up to her though. It’s already eating at her. She’ll talk. Just don’t know when.

Good Night All!!!

CathyJo:

Do you have google? If you do type in
Geraldo 2/21/09 It will take you to a number of Geraldo Interviews. Look over on the righthand side of the page and click on to the tape that says pt 1 with Crystal and her mother being interviewed. Crystal has on a yellow top.

Hello to everyone on here, still. I am new and first time blogging on this post and I have to say, I am S C A R E D of you all already. I have spent the last few hours reading post after post. I have to comment on something though. Regarding this Opinion person you call Moo, honestly, she really didn’t do anything too horribly wrong, other than possibly give hint that maybe she had information about the case. I can see where you would all, toward the end, believe her to be a liar in all statements, but when you see her email and the link she provided above, I truly believe that she is sincere. I think her motives were pure, especially in the beginning, but she got swept up in the moment. But, as you can see from the link she provided, she really is not a liar. I think she was always very polite and is being ugly now because a person, when they know they are not fibbing, can only take so much. She is clearly communicating with someone from the Sheriffs office and the photo of her is a screen shot from her computer, and you can see on it where she pulled up her pics, so I believe it really is her. So, in reality, the only lie she told, and she didn’t even really do that, was about maybe knowing things. Not saying that is good, but it is what it is. But you guys are acting like she pulled the worlds greatest scam, and clearly she did no such thing. Now, please, this is all my own opinion so don’t start shooting! Thanks for allowing me to comment. Won’t be staying, just was surfing the web, saw the site, and got fascinated by all the post, and felt for the moo person, especially her being sick….My aunt passed away 8 months ago from cancer in her uterus. I know that moo is going through a hard time, and now this…..JMO (and how, seriously, how do you know that one or both of her children didn’t get on the computer while she was cooking, as she stated? You don’t. They are just accusations against someone that you have no knowledge or proof of) Maybe (or not maybe, but apparently) others have burned you all or lied on here, but it doesn’t mean that because of one bad call she made, that she too is a “fraud” or “troll” as you call them) Way too harsh on here….way too harsh.

Unfortunately the email & pic links is….no more. I saw it though amd I do agree it to be real. The daughter(s) posting was a little strange but I thought perhaps she was typing for them or a voice recognition software. I’ve been meaning to buy one myself. ANyway….tis the BNN comments….LOL! Poster beware!

As per the audio software that was asked about it is Goldwave. It’s a free download for trial, purchase for full version. Pretty handy little tool. It’s fairly advanced so to do everything it “does” one needs to be somewhat proficient. Running things in forward, reverse, increase audio, and some other basic stuff is pretty user friendly, but taking out background noise or pulling specific pieces of audio forward (Ron’s voice forward over 911 op & Misty) and etc takes more skill then I have.

JMHO as I see it the LE does not have any evidence from any of the homes or vehicles that suggest fowl play, or a struggle that produced an injury that would of left evidence. With that I think she was taken by threats and very much alive. She was either passed over alive to another source or was killed where her body is. That is providing she was taken by one of the sources that have been looked at in this case. The only other possibility that could explain why no evidence in a vehicle or home has been found is because it is a source that has not been looked at or not with any depth. I think the answer is that the answer is else where. …JMHO
God Bless Haleigh and all her families

who are these people that think this is their own private chit chat? Morons! ..the answer is – Misty is being made a scapegoat for LE’s inepitude..she knows NOTHING!

beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 26th, 2010 at 11:11 pm Cathy,
Even tho I feel she failed the LieD, I question the guy even saying that to her. I think he was full of it too.
———————————

I think the same re him being full of it too. Just another person inserting themselves in the case doing what they can to get themselves on NG etc. One of way too many in this case.

OJ’s Glove
I agree that LE is blaming Misty because they can’t solve it, I think they truly believe it though. There are signs of abuse of power and deliberate manipulation by the Police. For instance the statement by Greenwood that one of things that concerns them is no signs of forced entry, yet ample cases show home invasions, serial rapist, killers that did not force their way in, they used a ploy. One of Countries most horrific serial killers never forced his way in his victims homes. He brutally killed and had no consistent pattern in terms of a consistent time line. He first killed in 79, then is 88, but was a serial rapist in between while never killing. Then in 99 he started killing again but didn’t rape, he always used a ploy to gain entry. Sometimes he locked up when leaving sometimes he left the door open. That is just one case of hundreds that Greenwood knows, as a cop he knows that. So why would he mislead people like that, desperation? I think their desperate and as long as they have an excuse for why they don’t have this solved then it deflects from them. It’s really sad there are so many in this case that are all about their own selves and not facing their own issues so they can possibly see another possibility.

My Opinion Only….IMO, it was due to how upset you were and possibly some things you had said in that post would have done more harm than good, if you know what I mean.

Try to take care of yourself and your little ones. I don’t believe anyone wants you to suffer, especially a life threatening illness.

Trust me when I say that I do know what it’s like to get carried away with the blog and say more than you should or wish later you hadn’t said something. It happens.

email me if you’d like to talk… HollysGmom@yahoo.com

Well, I’m not at all surprised of Art’s being a hired hand, Cobra hired him to promote his image, so why would it be so hard for us to believe that he was hired and would have to be by Momma, to promote and repair Crystal’s image. The thing that blows my mind, is that these people need to hire someone to make them look better.. Thats why KP was originally brought on, to handle the media, and make Crystal look like a good Mother, and suddenly she was there to act as an Attorney to file a child custody suit, identical to the one that had been filed in Dec, and had already been investigated.. Talk about determination to get a job done. Why would this have occurred, because Ron married Misty!! Don’t believe that, Well when you realize the the day Ron married Misty, Crystal spent in tears, and KP was hired.
Is that too hard to put together, its not rocket science!! all of the these months, Art has worked dilligently to nail Ronald and Misty, well its the same thing that MG has been doing.. Yea, I know that as a fact.. So it flows hand n hand..
I kept asking myself, if Cobra and Kim P were no longer employed or associated with the bio-moms family, why do they still keep popping up?
Neither one are out there looking for Haleigh!!
Both seem to appear in strange positions, but clearly KP still has fingers in the pie in defense of Crystal.. Why?? Whereas, Cobra seemed to be a bit confused in his last radio appearance, didn’t seem to be up to date on Crystal and her drug testing, and he blew it off with one comment.. and it doesn’t go away…
“I even seen her Daddy give her Drugs!!”, well if that doesn’t throw JS under the bus, big time involved in drugs.. what does??? WERE YOU LISTENING PCSO?? So, we have Cobra dumping on JS and Art throwing them both under the bus, We have KP throwing art under the bus, and now Art throwing KP under the bus. It must be getting crowded under that blooming bus. Needless to say, Leonard doesn’t really know if he’s under the bus or not!! My thoughts on Leonard versus the Anthony’s.. hey those people are just waiting, relocation time is coming.. they don’t want the big white elephant around their necks when it time to jump in the vehicle and relocate. Thats it.. Where will they go, If they were smart, head out with Leonard to California, maybe Daddy A. can get a job with LAPD…

Does anyone know:

In the State of Florida, if a person is paying child support, is the check mailed directly to the custodial parent or is it mailed to a government office and forwarded? I’m probably a little behind the times on some of these things….

https://askdor.state.fl.us/FAQ/FAQDetails.aspx?ID=9

If its like here in Tn,the check is mailed to the state and they pay you! I don’t know much about it,lol

Hi, m2c♥! You have a point there. In a way, I guess it’s kind of like NG trying to be a prosecutor and a journalist at the same time. People in certain professions really should be careful about conflict of interest.

Is it not perhaps possible that Kim Picazio’s role was not clear to them, either? I think I can see how they might feel that way.

m2c, very well explained!! instead of the bald truth it was bold deception.

I read KP’s response to the bar complaint a few weeks ago (and I probably should go back and re-read it), and I got the impression that she felt she was acting as a media consultant and they were expecting her to behave as an attorney in regards to her duty to her client. Have I misunderstood something?

I guess I should go back and re-read it.

One thing is certain. They would have been better off with someone else.

alethea: I agree. It is confusing. All of it.
Did Cobra bring KP in? If so, why? She IS a lawyer. If all the bio-mom’s side needed was a media consultant, then why KP? Except maybe she really wanted to get involved? And there again (like with Art) was she a media consultant or a lawyer? Everything she did and said carried more weight because everyone knew she’s a lawyer! But when it got down to actually doing any “lawyering” (as in filing for custody) she did not do it.
Fuzzy lines (all over the place). All of it messing up the investigation into what happened to Haleigh (IMO).

I’m going to have to go now. I’ll try to re-read that bar complaint response later. Nice talking to all of you.

Happy Saturday, all.

Can someone help me find the video from shortly after Haleigh went missing where MG says she feels like Haleigh is alive and in another state? Alabama, maybe, or another — can’t remember what states she said now.

Thanks.

thewoodlanddark said,in February 27th, 2010 at 11:57 am Happy Saturday, all.

Georgia and Alabama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcMkLE5fhk0&feature=related
Found it finally!lol

Another, take it with a grain of sea salt!
*********************************************
On June 21, 2009 Art Harris, who sometimes appears on CNN, claimed that he talked to a woman named “Barbara” from Texas who completely satisfied Sheffield’s $12,000 child support debt. It cannot be reported by WIA that Harris ‘reported’ his information, because he did not use the person’s last name and therefore verification of the story cannot be secured.
The un-identified person paying Sheffield’s child support, according to Harris, gave the money to Picazio who then made Sheffield’s child support payments.
On his website, arthariss.com, Harris refers to the person paying the child support as an “investor.” What exactly the un-identified person is “investing” in is not known.
The first child support payment (investment) to Picazio from the investor was $2,000. The second payment was $2,100. The third and final payment was $8, 317.94. Why the payments came in such an erratic pattern from an individual who supposedly had enough extra cash lying around to pay a stranger’s child support is not known.

Hi, CathyJo – Where did the article come from that you posted @ 12:45? TIA

Also I don’t think AssociatedContent is a credible “news source.” Anyone can write there and who knows where they get (or make up) theiir info? At least that’s the impression that I have of it. To me it’s like quoting from a blogger. (Unless there is a lot more to that story you posted at 12:39) Do you know if there was more? Or a credible source?

Hi, JB!
I was hoping to run into you! Yes, I did see your posts. Thanks so much. No worries! I’m humming Kumbaya (quietly) and passing around the chocolates!

Then again, TH seems to be willing to go all the way with what he believes, filing corruption complaints and all against the PCSO.

I think the “fake” photo stuff is just silly, though.

I dunno how else to do it,people ask for the articles and all i can do is say take it with salt??

thewoodlanddark said,
in February 27th, 2010 at 11:57 am

Happy Saturday, all.

Can someone help me find the video from shortly after Haleigh went missing where MG says she feels like Haleigh is alive and in another state? Alabama, maybe, or another — can’t remember what states she said now.

Thanks.
————————
don’t think this is the one you are looking for but it’s way interesting, to say the least.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090213/VIDEO/902130306&template=video

It could be like this for as long as the parties are in jail and when they are in prison they may not speak then either.
Someone better tell them that there is not statute of limitations on Murder.(if that is what happened). LE may be waiting to talk to them after they are sentenced for the drugs.
Right now its all up to the lawyers to work on a deal if they have anything to deal with. I know Mistys lawyer went for a jury trial but did Rons? I didnt see anything on it except that he plead not guilty. jmo

They are also going to be tried in two different countys. Ron sold in Putnam and Flagler. Misty sold in Putnam and St. Johns.
That would mean two different courts and two different trials I would guess. Misty goes to court in March 8 in St. Johns( she already appeared for the first in Putnam). She will most likely plead not guilt then too. jmo

vaquera said,in February 27th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
**********************
Very Interesting Vaq,in one breath she says Haleighs fine,she is just upset……..then she explains or tries to explain why she said Haleigh’s upset……she goes.well she’s upset,hurt and crying and wants her daddy………Wonder why she didn’t say her mommy first! just my opinion!
well which is it,she fine or upset…….sheesh!

Hi, CathyJo! I wasn’t asking about it as a put down. I was wondering if maybe the AssociatedContent one was written by anyone we know?
I also wondered where the second posting came from? Also associatedcontent?

I had not looked up associatedcontent until today. It sounds real and reputable to me like Associated Press (AP) so I was kind of surprised to see what it really is.

I just wondered where they got their info? But maybe there is no way to know? Thanks.

Cruisin’ Susan said,in February 27th, 2010 at 2:18 pm

Exactly,said i know she’s crying,i feel her pain…..gimme a break!

All the families still believe even now that Haleigh is alive and that someone has her. Sure she is going to be upset and crying for her mom and dad. That tape showed nothing more than a hope for a live Haleigh to me.
It is also better to focus on this for them then to think she is being mistreated or dead.
I admire their faith, I feel that is all they have for now. jmo

Hiya Gang!!

Vaq, very interesting footage… indeed!!!
I hate to say it but MG kinda reminds me of one of those religious snake-handlers cult-members.

***I do respect all rights/kinds of Religious Worship***

I’m just sayin!!

http://origin.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=144221&catid=295
******************************
I had never seen this one either!

Could it also be if they dont say they hope she is alive people will quit looking for her? Remember they want everyone to believe she is alive. If they had her hid somewhere they would say she is with god and someone harmed her. something to that effect would cause people not to search because they would be led to beleive she was dead. jmo

I’m certainly not implying MG had anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. Her behavior is strange, I think. That’s all. As well as everyone else involved, MG has behaved/spoken strangely. Misty has said some doozies, too. I am suspicious of all involved.

It sure does,in the video of sheppard smith,at the i believe 3:10 -3:15 mark you can actually see mg fidget bad,scratches her chin and rubs her hair…….just out of the ordinary to me!
And when ss asked how did she know Haleigh was taken,it knocked the air out of her i think!

Yes it was,they were ready,i have the article somewhere,sec

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/13/ng.01.html
Interesting,and they never gave cs a ld!

I’m hanging on to the hope!!

The really weird thing that stil bothers me is Misty and the red rose. What was that all about and how did she know the plastic rose was there unless she put it there? jmo

tobias — indeed! I think that was one of the most unsettling things Misty said in the earlier days. I read about it — but never saw that part of the video, somehow. I’d like to, if anyone knows where I can find it — the part about the rose, specifically. If it’s the “hypnosis” video, I must have missed that part. I found the gun-in-the-mouth statement from Misty to be utterly weird, as well.

Also, could someone point me to more info about the plastic rose, such as where it was found?

Misty knows NOTHING! She is a scapegoat being setup by an inept Barney Fife police dept. to distract from their bungled investigation. These buffoons couldn’t find their own arses without a compass.

It was either Ron’s mom or grandma that said that rose was on some property behind their house and looked like it had just blown there from someone’s trash. The area was a place that Ron and Misty had searched and would have seen that rose a number of times. This doesn’t explain why it would have been significant to Misty but would show that she had seen the rose at that location during a search.

ill find it for ya,sec

After Misty mentioned the rose the area was searched again and nothing was found.
Much more confusing then the rose was that fake search that Cobra told about.

And too though,why would they not call the SO to come look when they did?

yes,cobra tried them in naynays car and cobra said the le wouldn’t accept the keys!

Wait… which was the fake search? With GGMS?

At mg place,crystals mom!

tobias said,
in February 27th, 2010 at 3:01 pm

The really weird thing that stil bothers me is Misty and the red rose. What was that all about and how did she know the plastic rose was there unless she put it there? jmo
—————
she knew because, believe it or not, family still has been searching. it’s really a non issue anyway. the area was searched in the beginning and researched after that came to light. nothing was found

Didnt they eventually take the keys? I think they did after he had them for a couple of days on his dash. I may be wrong but thats what I am remembering darn wished I could remember which program it was that he talked about it. jmo

Be back later, gang… chest cold!!!

the fake search was in San Mateo. Marie/Bruce, Johnny/Connie, BLSTARKE and her dog,John Regan. The items founds were,to begin with, a supposedly bloody glove, toys, inhaler, a scrap of cloth with either rust or blood, and then a suitcase just popped out of nowhere and in it was a bus schedule. John Regan called cobra instead of pcso and John R bagged up the stuff and put it in his vehicle. Later Connie supposedly found the keys on the side of the road. Supposedly they were led to this area by some psychic, whether that is true or not I don’t know. it was the weekend of the burger cookout at HBC

GRRRR PHONE,LOL

tobias,

Misty’s statement may have implied that Haleigh was dead, but Misty never said she thinks Haleigh is dead.

To me the million dollar question is WHY? Why would they stage the fake search in the first place? What were they wanting people to think from it??

Amber reminds me of something else unsettling about Misty — the MySpace message re: got your man, will get your baby (paraphrasing) that Misty left on Amber’s page.

Why, if Misty didn’t want to be caring for two children would she want to take on a third (and a special needs child, at that?) Crazy. And mean.

On the other hand, didn’t it seem LC and TC’s son seemed more interested to visit Misty than his father?

I’ll check in later to see if anything new has surfaced, though it seems doubtful on the weekend.

Best to all.

AnneInTn, I agree all the “evidence” from the fake search would lean towards saying Haleigh was dead and tying it to Nay Nay which would go back to Misty.

According to Cobra there was “planted” evidence. Why would the want FAKE evidence?

I have been asked why I am so adamant in believing Ronald and Misty are innocent. It is a method I use or perhaps it would be viewed as a method, to me its just what I know. Have you ever wondered how a blind person is able to know when they are being lied to when someone speaks to them? Have you wondered how specific fighters learn to block punches in the dark? Can you walk into a gymnasium blind folded where people are standing motionless and silently. Have someone guide you to a chair in the middle of the room, have the lights out and nail exactly where those people are standing? Ronald and Misty are innocent if people knew how to do the above they would know Ronald and Misty are innocent. I never listen to their audio’s or 911 calls with my eyes open. I am 100% absolute in this, they are innocent
God Bless Haleigh and all her families

i know it sounds crazy but what other reason,they if guilty of anything………wanted the evidence to go in a diff direction! MG asked for that ladies dog,she hired Cobra and cobra said himself,they were up to something!

Vaq,he tried them on naynays car,they fit!

I agree Ann! They did!they knew ron owned a boat too,so plant the suitcase,sox,ticket and all that by the water!

I’d come closer to making a necklace out of them before i’d give them away!
That video a second ago,it was weird,did you watch it Ann? Vigil that MG led!that is really weird!

tobias said,in February 27th, 2010 at 3:48 pm Ann, how would it point to her being dead? I think they were just trying to look like they were searching for evidence. jmo
——————–
IF Sheffields took Haleigh to hid her this fake search would make it look like someone killed her but it didnt happen this way. jmo

CathyJo63 said,in February 27th, 2010 at 4:15 pm Vaq,he tried them on naynays car,they fit!
———–
Yes they fit her car but didnt Cobra offer keys to LE and they didnt want these keys. WHY?

Yes he did Ann,and the guy said no he did not want them!he tried several times!

CathyJo63 said,in February 27th, 2010 at 4:26 pm why would johnny sheffield say,they can’t touch him in ky??
————–
Cathy I agree. Its like he told on his self to me.LOL PCSO HOPE YOUR READING THIS. Go get him.

Shortly before HaLeigh Cummings disappeared on February 10, 2009, Sheffield had received a letter in the mail instructing her to appear in court regarding her un-paid child support. In the state of Florida the consequences for non-payment of child support can be loss of driving privileges and/or jail. A few days after Sheffield received the letter, HaLeigh Cummings disappeared from her home with no sign of struggle.
Shortly after the child’s disappearance, Sheffield and her mother, Marie Griffis, the future president and vice president of the Haleigh Bug Foundation, appeared on FOX News to be interviewed by Geraldo Rivera. Griffis said she believed HaLeigh had been taken out of Florida.
>>>> “I have no idea why, but I know HaLeigh is fine, but I don’t feel HaLeigh’s… I don’t feel HaLeigh here in this area – she’s not here – she’s, she’s somewhere else – someone has got her and has transported her out of Florida and something just keeps – it stays in my mind constantly, Georgia Alabama – Georgia Alabama.”
In another televised interview, Griffis said she believed HaLeigh is ok but no one is going to see her for a while. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Despite HaLeigh Bug Foundation President Marie Griffis’ public statements that she believed HaLeigh Cummings was alive and well in a location unknown, the foundation she administers has yet to fund a single search for the missing child. Menawhile, nobody knows where the money has gone. <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Ruby Kanger, mother-in-law to Johnny Sheffield, the child’s grandpa, told Write Into Action that HaLeigh Bug has never sponsored one search.

MG and cs acts calm as can be,i havent heard of em ask to plead in the media?? Atleast Ron did do that!

I can’t ccp anymore for awhile,lol M2 will be so mad at me,lol

Exactly,Ann.why would he even think about that?
can’t touch him!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn2BGTooZ2E&feature=related
Ann,listen!

To be honest this thing is a mess,and why? A little girl is missing and theyve got her family in jail who i am againt starting to think are innocent,my gosh….somebody woulda broke….i know i would!

Hi, CathyJo! Think of the devil and she pops up, right? LOL! Considering the source of the info you just posted, you might want to ask Jan if it’s okay for a number of reasons. One is copyright issues. Some authors and publishers are VERY sticky about that. The other is that THIS author is VERY litigious.
So just a suggestion to maybe speak with Jan before copying and pasting any more from that particular source. JMO.

But not the devil,no.she’s in jail already!

OhhBoy,i quit for good!
What do you do? point your tv antenna toward the blog? lol

Me too Adam’s,its BS is what it is and God forbid on the off days that we can discuss much……ya know…honest….since i am one of the bloggers here who has time to burn,i live alone,no family to cook for and all that and i know that most of you do and when i ccp i am merely trying to be helpful,ask HGM,she was busy as a bee when she started her forum and i worked alot just helping because i wanted to help her b/c i knew she cared about Haleigh!!and she didn’t even know i was going too
I don’t want oooohh and ahhhhhs,i am only saying it because its like some people think i do it for the hell of it…..well i don’t…I do it for everyone here who don’t have as much time as I do!And i am trying to hang on,but dang enough already!

CathyJo – Was your 4:59 meant for me? I wasb’t getting after you in a mean way. Just trying to give you a heads up. There are things going on with that website and owner and I just thought it would be a good idea for you to find out what Jan thinks. You can email her. Nothing against you at all.

you give me heads up every single time i post anything M2,you do!!Its like you wait for it!sorry but it does feel that way to me!

yes… beware the timothy holmseth weasel.

CathyJo – There are different reasons why in each case. In one kind of situation, even Jan mentioned it. Then there are copyright issues which are both a legal matter and also just info (for readers to know the source if they want to read it all for themselves).
And then there’s this one particular website with different issues about it.
I am sorry that you think I’m bugging you but if three different people had posted those posts I would be trying to speak with all three. It’s not YOU!

Looking forward to the show tomorrow. Everyone take care and have a good evening.

Cathy, yes, I know what you did at FF1 and I appreciate all you do. Please No Worries… okay?

Thank you, Me.
I’ll see you all later maybe.

One more note. CathyJo this is NOT personal as Me pointed out. Not at all. Please stop making it so.

Cathy…. email me please!

I have posted links and snippets of that site before and they were deleted so I just don’t post them anymore. 😀

CathyJo:
Most articles are copyrighted. That means if you copy and paste any or all of that article somewhere else you are legally bound to include the credit. Often that can be as simple as “From wftv.com” or it can be the link to the article that the part you copied is from.
Such “credit” for the source is often also appreciated by the readers here who might like to go to that source to reall the whole article or see what else that source has to offer.
Like when I quote from articles on “wftv.com” there are often links to videos that no one here will see in the paragraph that I quote. But the reader here can go to wftv.com and see the videos and all the other articles but ONLY if I tell them that’s where the article came from.
The situation with WIA is a sensitive one for Jan and Simon. Out of respect for them, speak with Jan about it to get a clear understanding of their preference.
Now, do you see that this is not a matter of ME??? It’s not about me at all.

Oh and CathyJo, I want to tell you that I really appreciate it when you and others bring info or refer us to info from other sources outside of BNN. I really do appreciate that because often I have not seen it.
All I’m saying is that how that is done is important. I hope I explained well enough why.

Cathy are you still here? If so pm or email me. Gotta call my Mommy about my cold/swallowing, BRB.

You are all starting to think like me. Marty is safe in Ky? Marie thinks Haleigh is ok? She feels Haleigh is in the Al/Ga area? The fake search??? The back door propped open? That sounds like someone needed to leave to door open to be able to come back in and get Jr. maybe??? So many questions that lead me back to this family… sorry but the drug story is not working for me. jmo

vaquera said,in February 27th, 2010 at 5:08 pm AnneInTn said,
in February 27th, 2010 at 3:42 pm

Yep and to my understanding Cobra oftered the keys to LE and they didnt want them. Correct me if i am wrong

———–
that’s correct, Anne. They didn’t take the stuff bagged up out there either, of course it was all useless anyway because of who bagged it up. It was right after that the PCSO said they didn’t want the families to search anymore.
————–
Ruby Kanger bagged it up. WTH

HollysGMom:

Thanks for the support. I am not posting for responses, please. No need to change your constructive blogs on this case to start bashing. I am only letting HollysGMom know I emailed her. After you read the email, maybe you can at least let all of the bloggers on here, know the honest truth. Thanks

HollysGmom said,
in February 27th, 2010 at 5:42 pm

CathyJo63 said,in February 27th, 2010 at 4:32

About ALabama Georgia….that’s why I had thought my sighting might have been her. I live 15 miles from the ALabama state line and that day, that black car raced towards that ALabama line!
—————–
was it a black mustang? I remember early on about a black mustang seen in the panhandle and it was related to a siting. I can’t remember the particulars of the siting though

m2c♥ said,in February 27th, 2010 at 6:15 pm CathyJo63 @ 5:23 – My comments and questions about the posts you quoted there are different than what I was talking about later. I was just discussing/chatting with you about that website which I saw for the first time today.

But those articles are good examples of how important it is to include the source when you bring something here because it helps the reader know how much credibility to give it. And they can go to that site and learn more
about it.
****************************
The things I mentioned later were for different reasons.

*****************************
M2,Don’t be two faced,you know as well as i do you did,scroll…its the only subject after you entered so don’t pull that on me,anybody can see thats what you meant!and what you were referring to!!If you feel the need to harass and belittle someone then I’d just start my own blog!
And no you won’t ever have to worry about another post of mine,i will type only what i need to type and then i’ll use shorthand!!
But i won’t let someone run me off,I am here for Haleigh!!and I’m sorry we can’t be friends cause God know’s I’ve done everything but rub sugar in your hindend!!!

Sorry All, I am just popping and have only read a few of the posts tonight. I just got an answer on a couple of questions I had about the 911 call (original). The answeres came from a retired, 30 year Vet of a Sheriff Dept. One thing in particular brough up was the original 911 transcript has no Date Stamps at the end of each transmission. They said that is not a full release of the transmission, which is public record, which means the 911 tape would have been REDACTED before it reached the public. This could have been done by PCSO, but they think more on the lines of FDLE or FBI. Which raises the question, WHY? They also pointed out that the tape had interesting info, such as a marked car at Tommy’s, if there is no time stamp at the end of the transmission, that may have been omitted due to witnesses. Please correct me if I am wrong, I could not find one 911 release with the times. Sorry for the inrtrusion or typos

Also, wasn’t it a woman deputy at Tommy’s? That raised questions as well with the individual I was speaking with.

It looks like a REALLY quick cut and paste according to the person I spoke with. They said NO 911 goes out without a time stamp at the end of the transmission, even/especially in a missing persons case. What do you think?

Sorry to interrupt but I have to respond to CathyJo.

CathyJo – Really you have taken all of this the wrong way. I was not harrassing or belittling you. This stuff has been mentioned before on the blog long ago and then I thought again recently. It’s pretty standard way of doing things even on blogs. I thought you just didn’t know it.
And my responses to the first to posts were different. The first post of yours I mentioned, I discussed that I was surprised when I went to that site. I had thought it was a news site. I wsa chatting with you. That’s not a criticism of you.

The reason I asked what the source was for the second post of yours was that I did not see the source. At first. When I read it again a little while ago I finally realized that the source is mentioned IN the article with initials. I had not picked up on that before. So I’m sorry I missed that.

As far as the rest of it goes, I was just taking the opportunity to talk with you about copying and pasting. Letting you know some things about it which I thought you did not know. Some of the things are legal and may or may not matter on the net or maybe Jan and Simon don’t care about them. But they are standard practices in the press.
But even if no one cares about that, other aspects of naming the source are important to me personally and possibly to other bloggers. And one aspect was important to Jan (I think).

I tried to PM you on the BNN Forum but you are not a member it seems. So please please understand that this was not an attack. I was trying to help, I was asking for info that I personally would appreciate having when an article is posted.

I NEVER attacked you for this. But you call me names. YOU have turned what could have been a discussion into a fight that did not have to happen.
Despite your clear name-calling attack on me, I would like to put this behind us and be friends again.

Blue Moon said,in February 27th, 2010 at 8:28 pm Also, wasn’t it a woman deputy at Tommy’s? That raised questions as well with the individual I was speaking with.
———–
Yes there was a women deputy at Tommys that nite and its no where to be found now.And when the call came in about Haleigh being missing this deputy was 2 blocks away to my understanding. Odd right?

Cath said: Regarding the patrol car at Tommy’s, it looks as if the 911 operator addressed the officer and got no response. Which seems odd.

***********************************
OH, that is not ODD at all, I will gladly PM you the SD/RSP that “hunted” my brother. When they are BAD, they are BAD.

I’m sorry, it was not the 911 operator. It was the dispatcher that addressed the officer and got no response. Could that dispatch report have been redacted?

Blue Moon said,in February 27th, 2010 at 8:41 pm Yes Ann! Thanks for the confirm.
—————-
LE deputy went there to Tommys that nite about a child . I just cant rememebr what for cuz there no info on that call now.

You all would be stunned out of your chair if you heard the 911 transmission in my familys case, sorry, I don’t want to bring it up again, I just want you all to know that this HAPPENS!! And when I showed my contact the 911 from Haleigh, it raised MANY questions.

I am going to officially join the forum so I can PM you all. You will be stunned what “LE” is capable of.

Blue… So what is it that we need to locate exactly?

CathyJo63, have you actually located and verified a statement from pcso about the washing machine running when they arrived. I don’t think its on the police report, and i thought that it was more speculation than reality. I don’t think I have ever head anyone from pcso made the comment. Can you locate the info that verifies that?

Cath, a lot

Blue Moon said,
in February 27th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

Sorry All, I am just popping and have only read a few of the posts tonight. I just got an answer on a couple of questions I had about the 911 call (original). The answeres came from a retired, 30 year Vet of a Sheriff Dept. One thing in particular brough up was the original 911 transcript has no Date Stamps at the end of each transmission. They said that is not a full release of the transmission, which is public record, which means the 911 tape would have been REDACTED before it reached the public. This could have been done by PCSO, but they think more on the lines of FDLE or FBI. Which raises the question, WHY? They also pointed out that the tape had interesting info, such as a marked car at Tommy’s, if there is no time stamp at the end of the transmission, that may have been omitted due to witnesses. Please correct me if I am wrong, I could not find one 911 release with the times. Sorry for the inrtrusion or typos
++++++++++++
That is what we learned/figured out back when they were released. There is something missing and they are no time stamps.

mlee said,
in February 27th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

CathyJo63, have you actually located and verified a statement from pcso about the washing machine running when they arrived. I don’t think its on the police report, and i thought that it was more speculation than reality. I don’t think I have ever head anyone from pcso made the comment. Can you locate the info that verifies that?
============
Mlee I can’t tell you Kim P said it was not true. there was no washer running when PCSO got there.

OR do you have someone you could ask? We are all going out on a whim here…

Thanks Vaq

beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 27th, 2010 at 5:10 pm Cathy… what is CCP?
********
cut,copy,paste!

What about Somer THmopson’s case? Any 911 call released there?

Radio calls TJ’s report

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5173311.php

Well, I am starting to think the only reason to redact the TIME of a call is for the protection of either 911 or LE. I am not saying this is the case here, only that I have to consider it.

911 is usually a county agency. Maybe there is a difference in how each county does things.

We had a case here where a 911 operator did not take a call seriously and even that call info was released in full even though it clearly showed the 911 operator’s errors.

AnneInTn said,in February 27th, 2010 at 10:10 pm 911 call

FLE2: I’m available at 116 Tyler.
OP: 116 Tyler? (static) 26.
MLE1: What’s going on at 116?
FLE2: 1256.
OP: Go head.
FLE2: 10:08 from this location, going 97, back to Green.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5173311.php

Well, maybe a dog barked? At something??? Or someone, doing whatever at 3 AM?

The Croslins don’t have a dog, do they? Or did they?

Blue Moon said,in February 27th, 2010 at 10:27 pm The person that I spoke with seems to think LE (PCSO) had the Strings on this tape….We all could be wrong though..
———–
Well imo I will never belive we are wrong. jmo

It was an animal complaint.

Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2009-02-27 1 LOCAL ORD CITN: #09-1334 (02-10-09) PCSO/R CLARKE

2009-02-27 1 PUBLIC ANIMAL NUSIANCE

2009-02-27 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 03/12/2009

2009-02-27 2 OFFICER’S REPORT

2009-04-17 3 $57.00 LOCAL ORDINANCE FINE PAID

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

Yep Noreen!!

Weird that the citation for the Animal Nusiance, doesn’t appear to have been issued until 17 days after the incident.

http://www.apsu.edu/oconnort/polcodes.htm
Here are police codes!

Blue Moon said,in February 27th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
No doubt SOMETHING happened there that night.I WILL NOT LEAVE until I know what happened to this baby..

——————————————

I’m with you there Blue Moon – 100%

Noreen said,in February 27th, 2010 at 11:12 pm Blue Moon said,in February 27th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
No doubt SOMETHING happened there that night.I WILL NOT LEAVE until I know what happened to this baby..

——————————————

I’m with you there Blue Moon – 100%
————
I am not leaving either-100%

WOW, Noreen. I’ve looked at the nuisance animal charge a lot over the last year and never noticed the date of 2-10. very interesting, that would seem to me a dog constantly barking. I wonder if Tommy was out wondering around that late

Hi Vaq,

I doubt that the dog would have been barking at Tommy, if Tommy was its owner, typically a dog barks during rough play, at strangers, etc. I’m assuming the dog knew HaLeigh also, but what about Cousin Joe?

I wonder if the neighbor that called in nuisance call heard anything else, or noted how long the dog had been barking? I would imagine it barked for some time, long enough to necessitate a call to PCSO.

Strange huh?

G’night all…..pray for HaLeigh’s safe return.

Some dogs bark every breath when they see their master walk off and leave them, especially, if the master is on foot.

Good Morning….

Yes, I have heard the 911 call from Tyler, as in the scanner audio it’s self…I WIll find a link to audio.

As per dogs barking issue I think it was TC’s dog. If it belonged to someone else they would have been charged. He wouldn’t get charged for upsetting the neighbors dog, he got charged for not quieting his own dog(s). If the officer was just arriving at Tyler at the same time as officers in route/at MH, why were dogs at Tyler barking at that time? Most often people (neighbors) will wait a couple of hours to report a barking dog. ALternately, if this was an usual occurance they might have called right away. There was something up @ Tyler that night….but what and exactly what time? Did dogs bark a long time or did neighbor call right away? It would be nice to narrow that down a little.

I’m not sure about LE as releasor of 911 transcript. The original 911 call was redacted and not just blipped out…We haven’t heard it in it’s entirety…..

Sorry, that was transcript only but is verified as correct per TJ Hart as source.

I’ll continue to look for audio

We need to Sunshine request a copy of that dog barking police report. It would give times and an account of what was going on, reason they called LE…how long dogs had barked, if it was chronic issue, etc….

Probably won’t allow due to ongoing investigation and proximity as well as TC possible involvement per his appearance at MH that night….(possibly a lie).

Well, it does state that some of the words were “garbbled” so there are spaces instead. I do see what you mean about timestamping but how is it usually done? A digital voice? bleeps? just numbers following written transmission on transcript? I’ve never seen a 911 transcript before so I don’t know what I should look for, as an average listener.

CathyJo there are photo copies of those checks over on Arts site. The lady was to be very wealthy due to oil.They call her Barbara. Barbara felt compassion towards Crystal and felt she could lesson her burdens by helping get rid of the arrearage. Crystal could have gained nothing by taking Haleigh or both of the children. It would not make the arrearage go away or stop the support payments until Haleigh returned. She may of been able to get them reduced ,but that is it. I believe if this lyes on the Sheffield side it is Johnny Marty Sheffield. I have stated that before. He feels he is untouchable by the law. He has not attended anything for Haleigh I believe since he moved to Kentucky.
Why did Chelsea make the statement that Misty woke to find Joe standing over her and it scared her on the night Haleigh vanished?This leads us to believe it was the players in Satsuma. This case is so confusing and it makes me so frustrated!
CathyJo by the way thanks for all you do to find info for us to sift through and question. I saw your prayer and it was beautiful. Amen!
Bac I see your still not feeling well. Sending prayers your way. I hope you will feel better soon.
Goodmorning HollysGmom, Nice to see you.

Goodmorning m2c. Nice to see you to.

I read that in the Caylee case the state has recently released more evidence (statements, CDs and DVDs) to the defense. However that evidence has not been released to the public yet.

I only mention it because I’m wondering if that is what is going on with the tapes/evidence in the drug charges? Maybe the state is giving them to the defense first, possibly delaying public release. Dare I hope that maybe it’s part of some negotiations?
(Probably not. Probably just a slowing down of the whole process. sigh).

m2c…sounds like you may be right about that…defense….

Hi looking!

Anybody notice Timmy & Chelsea’s Wedding Anniversary date? 2-11-2006 This is it! THis is who Misty had wanted to babysit for….for their Anni…I’m sure of it! Maybe they were going to celebrate on Monday rather than Tuesday due to CHelsea and/or Timmy’s work schedule. This would also explain why Misty felt so strongly about babysitting for someone other than Ron….

Wow Holly I did not know their anniversary date. This could be very possible.

That could also explain why Misty’s phone was turned off. She didn’t want ROnald to know she went anyway…he probably wanted the kids to sleep in their own home….School night and all….THen the van was used after T & C returned for the night? Joe tells them he’s using it to return Misty & Kids to Green Lane…comes back messed up…or T & C are told about Haleigh accident and they keep quiet about night’s events.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc61AO1APc4

Chelsea video about van

thinks she may know who it was…gut instinct/mother instinct…doesn’t say who exactly though…

You know Holly we never heard if Ron called Timmy that night only Tommy which is verified by LE. Maybe Tommy did go to the mh and noone was home. The question is did he call Ron. We have not heard anything on that yet.

You know maybe LE already knew about Tommy being there that night and released to the press after Tommy was arrested 7 months later. Leading us to believe he with held this info. Do you remeber if Tommy had a home phone or was it a cell Ron called? If it was a cell then Tommy could of been pinged and it would show how long he was there.

looking for justice, I hope that LE suspected T could have been at R’s MH that night the minute they saw R’s phone records. But I don’t think they knew for sure until he admitted it.
I’m not sure that cell phone pinging is so accurate as to be able to place him at R’s though because I think T’s home was only 100 or so yards away.

HGm @ 10:28 – I think that comment posted late. I did not see it until now. I would not be surprised if something M said in those ridiculous tests of TM’s prompted LE to interview T and C again but I don’t remember all of what she said well enough to know what it could have been. Of course LE should have already known about the van being moved and scratched. And no one has owned up to doing that yet!
HGm, what did you mean by LE interviewing T and C because they were already up there? Do you mean because of the sighting? That’s possible but often LE will let a local LE look into it. It’s partly just a matter of getting the store’s footage and matching it to a photo of Haleigh. If that doesn’t pan out then no sense in PCSO traveling. But that’s just what makes sense to me. Heaven only knows if that’s what LE actually does.

Has anyone ever found out what Timmy almost went to federal prison for? He talked a little about it to Tommy on the jailhouse phone call.
Just curious what would get you into a federal prison? jmo

The couple was questioned on Saturday by investigators but Lindsey Croslin is confident it was simply standard procedure. In fact she’s happy to hear deputies are really working this case. “They had Chelsea in questioning for like 14 hours. Yeah, they took her in the morning, let her go home and got her again. Asked her the same basic questions, do you know anything about haleigh, did you or Tim try to help misty to hide haleigh…yeah. Crazy questions.”

Lindsey Croslin says the family has started to pull away from Misty Croslin-Cummings who has failed several polygraph tests

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/090809_haleighs_aunt_speaks_out

ALso Linsey talks about her & Tommy’s choice to move to MASS with Timmy & Chelsea….

Good morning all,

I am thinking the TC/dog issue is either something really big or absolutely nothing at all.

Neighbors usually call cops about dogs when they have been barking a while and very loudly. Now, we all know there are neighbors who call cops at the drop of a hat, but typically the cops are aware of those who do that and usually a warning is given rather than a citation.

My question is did the dog bark or cause trouble routinely? Just because we have not found (or may not find) other dates with complaints about the dog does not mean it did not happen frequently. Neighbors might have let it go for awhile. Or, cops came and it was just a warning or maybe a ticket for ordinance violation.

If the dog did not usually bark loudly and frequently, but it did that night, I would like to know what time the neighbor called police to report it. Also, I want to know if the nuisance call was for barking and not another dog behavior…dog going through someone’s trash, for example.

It’s just always bothered me that no dogs barked that night, and neighbors heard nothing unusual that night. As far as I could find, there had been no disturbance reported other than the neighbor who heard Misty crying and talking to 911. Until now that is, with this dog.

I apologize if these questions have been asked already. I am not caught up on reading yet.

HollysGmom said,
in February 28th, 2010 at 10:09 am

We need to Sunshine request a copy of that dog barking police report. It would give times and an account of what was going on, reason they called LE…how long dogs had barked, if it was chronic issue, etc….

Probably won’t allow due to ongoing investigation and proximity as well as TC possible involvement per his appearance at MH that night….(possibly a lie).
=====================
I know someone that did request that report a few months ago and was told there was no report. they are going to ask again. If LE is dispatched to some place there has to be a report on the call plus we can see in the court records he was charged, so how was he charged without a police report.

Hi Gang!!!!
Trying to get caught up here.
Looking… thanks for the well-wishes!
Tobias, while I am suspicious of Timmy’s commit, he said it sort of off handily, like he was just trying to re-assure Tommy, in a brotherly way. IMO

SOrry guys I was digging and posting without reading your comments in between…

THere was a newspaper article link where in Greenwood said they were unrelated…

I think this disturbance with the dogs at 116 Tyler that very night is extremely important but kept in dark for that reason.

((((((Hello)))))) Anyone home?

You are right Chelsea made the statement that Joe was sleeping in his jeans when he usually slept in boxers. jmo

I always wondered about that and asked a long time ago, I have dogs and if there are any strange noises at night they know about it.
It struck me as odd that not a single person came forward to say yeah, my dog barked at such and such a time that night. jmo

Opps I need to add they are inside dogs too.
I once heard from friends who snowbird to Florida that dogs should be kept indoors because of gators. They love dog. jmo

Sounds as though someone moved the van, but Chelsea didn’t wake up to hear that.

Maybe neighbors did report hearing things that night but have been asked to keep quiet for now.

CHelsea stated in interviews that she stayed up late working on their bills/taxes….SHe said in another interview that she would have heard Joe leave or come back as she is a light sleeper. She says in another interview that Misty sometimes fell asleep wwhile babysitting for them…that Misty wouldn’t hear the baby crying but Chelsea would…WHich baby??? CHelsea’s when Misty was babysitting? Why would Misty be sitting for them while they are home?

HollyG good point. I assumed she meant Misty was living with them, like a live-in babysitter… during some point.

But HGm, Joe was there so he could babysit! LOL! And if not that, then why couldn’t T and C’s child go to R’s for the evening? T and C could have picked her up after their evening out.
Sounds like M may have led a fairly nomadic existence before moving in with R. May have stayed with her parents, T and L and T and C from time to time.

Remember too, Ron filed a phone harrasment on Timmy after the fight with the Croslins. Misty claimed she didnt want him to do it. I guess Timmy called Ron a little biatch boy or something to that effect. If they were calling Misty on her phone why would it be Ron fileing charges? jmo

Meaning
“Trying to nail down timeline,especially for the hours of 10:00 Pm to 2AM”

I’ll look for actual quote

THere is a police report on file at Putnam Courthouse…

UCN: 542009CO000052XXAXCX
File Date: 2009-02-27 Judge: JAMES L PADGETT
Defense Atty:

Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2009-02-27 1 LOCAL ORD CITN: #09-1334 (02-10-09) PCSO/R CLARKE

2009-02-27 1 PUBLIC ANIMAL NUSIANCE

2009-02-27 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 03/12/2009

2009-02-27 2 OFFICER’S REPORT

2009-04-17 3 $57.00 LOCAL ORDINANCE FINE PAID

Officer’s Report…..I’ll look for a PDF file of it….

More info on Hank Croslin City Ordinance issue(s) only this is Sr…

File Date: 2009-04-16 Judge: JAMES L PADGETT
Defense Atty:

Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T SR
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2009-03-25 1 LOCAL ORDN CITN#09-2250(03/13/09)PCSO DEP R CLARK

2009-03-25 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 04/09/09

2009-03-25 1 OFFICERS REPORT

2009-03-25 2 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT

2009-03-31 2 WRITTEN PLEA OF NOT GUILTY TO LOCAL ORDINANCE

2009-04-19 3 NOTICE OF ORDINANCE HEARING ISSUED TO:DEF CROSLIN

2009-04-19 3 COMP GLASS,OFF CLARK

2009-04-19 3 COURT SET FOR MAY 14,2009 9:00AM BD OF COMM ROOM

2009-04-19 3 1F 107 NORTH 6TH ST PALATKA, FL 32177 W/JLP

2009-05-14 4 ORDINANCE HEARING MINUTES:GUILTY PAY FINE

2009-05-14 4 $57.00 PAY BY 07/13/09

2009-07-23 5 $57.00 LOCAL ORDINANCE FINE PAID

Just the Feb before Lindsy got a ticket for a PitBull Noisy Ordinance

UCN: 542008CO000109XXAXCX
File Date: 2008-03-10 Judge: JAMES L PADGETT
Defense Atty:

Defendant
CROSLIN, LINDSY K
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2008-03-11 1 LOCAL ORD CIT#08-1979 (02/25/08) PCSO/S COULLIETTE VEL

2008-03-11 1 PUBLIC ANIMAL NUSIANCE (WHITE PITTBULL)

2008-03-11 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 03/27/2008

2008-03-11 2 INCIDENT REPORT

2008-03-24 3 $57.00 LOCAL ORDINANCE FINE PAID

So maybe Tommy was claiming its Hanks dog? lol Maybe they thought they would drop it because it wasnt Tommys dog? jmo

This is NEWS!!!!

2010-02-18 11 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS

2010-02-18 12 APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER

2010-02-18 13 CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED

2010-02-23 14 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)

2010-02-23 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL

Misty filed for a PD on 2/18!!!! What happened to Fields???

OMG Just what these idiots need a pit bull. Did they have insurance for it I doubt it.
Whatever happened to it? Kids and pitbulls who are raised by idiots are not a good mix in my opinion. Bully breeds need a owner who knows what they are doing. I know I own a large boxer and a german shepherd, both dogs have less of a reputaion but need proper training.jmo

HGm – about the attorney. Maybe Fields has stayed on. I don’t know when he wrote that letter to LP. Maybe M ran out of money or was told she can’t use her own money if LE thinks it’s drug money. Maybe Fields is working for her but being paid by the state like a public defender? IDK. Just ideas.

Oops. Sorry and thank you, Vaq. I didn’t see your post before leaving mine.

tobias, @ dogs. That’s the truth. Poor dog. Frankly I care more about what happened to him/her than I care what happens to T.
Stupid ignorant jerk should not be allowed to have a dog (or children) IMO.

I thought he wrote that lett ON that date….

No…I just misread….no problem…wasn’t trying to be rude, just wanted to clarify so I would know for sure what was meant and others too.

SO Marie is related to Padgette?

Wow hgmom, Thats some interesting news! Maybe misty is planning to take LP up on his offer, and thats why fields is backing off. I feel a storma’ brewin’! could get verrry interesting. Dear God I hope it all leads to Haleigh.

UCN: 542010CF000251XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-02-03 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: FIELDS, ROBERT M

Defendant
CUMMINGS, MISTY JANETTE
Alias
CROSLIN, MISTY JANETTE

Date # Docket Description
2010-02-03 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO DET TIM CAMPBELL

2010-02-03 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A

2010-02-03 2 INFORMATION – TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (28G-30KG)

2010-02-03 3 CAPIAS REQUEST FORM – BOND $250,000 NATIONWIDE

2010-02-03 4 CAPIAS ISSUED – BOND SET AT $250,000 NATIONWIDE

2010-02-09 5 MOTION AND ORDER TO TRANSPORT

2010-02-09 5 02/18/2010 ST JOHNS COUNTY

2010-02-18 6 APPEARANCE, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND FOR

2010-02-18 6 TRIAL BY JURY FILED BY ROBERT FIELDS

2010-02-18 7 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, SWORN, ARRAIGNED,

2010-02-18 7 ATT BY ROBERT FIELDS, ENTERED PLEA OF NOT GUILTY,

2010-02-18 7 SET FOR PRE TRIAL 03/31/2010.

2010-02-18 8 ORDER SETTING PRE TRIAL 03/31/2010

2010-02-18 9 ARREST REPORT – 2/18/2010

2010-02-18 9 BOOKING NUMBER: 10-00278

2010-02-18 9 BOND SET AT $250,000.00

2010-02-18 10 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG

2010-02-18 10 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING

2010-02-18 10 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

2010-02-18 10 $250,000.00 SECURED BOND SET

2010-02-18 11 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS

2010-02-18 12 APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER

2010-02-18 13 CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED

2010-02-23 14 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)

2010-02-23 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL

Misty & Attorney notified on 2/23

Had Field’s filed anything since then? Just curious.

So are we thinking Fields has fled?

Hi, cent! I couldn’t blame him! M’s given him a lot of headaches already I’m sure!

LOL maybe it’s being reported here for the first time!

Hi M2C,… I’m thinking Fields is in for the long haul… imo

However, you never know!!

Cathartic, yes… I could see it being reported for the first time here… other news outlets don’t seem too interested in much, besides the drama. But, “we” have many “ace cub reporters”!!!

LOL!!!Too True!

Yeah I’m sure it could be said here first, I was going to add “bombshell” on the OP and kid Hollys about it but decided not to. Sense of humor is not something everyone has and I have to remind myself of that sometimes.

Reported on AH on Feb 22

“Regarding Misty Croslin’s frantic appeal to her mother, Lisa, to seek Padilla’s help with her $1.35 million bond, Fields tells me that was made on a jailhouse videotape during visit BEFORE he had a chance to visit his client and explain the illogic of doing such a deal–telling Padilla what she knew or may know about Haleigh in exchange for temporary freedom.

Such a move would take away any trump card Fields might be able to use to bargain for his client’s release on bond, or lesser charges and prison time she might receive if convicted of her drug charges, in exchange for verifiable information about what happened to Haleigh.

Reading between the lines, we can expect Fields to explore several options for his client in the coming days and weeks, and if you listen to the recent jailhouse tapes, Misty Croslin hints she might have overheard something the night Haligh vanished.

He declined to say whether he believed she had anything to use to bargain with law enforcement to bring down prison time she’s facing if convicted on all 8 counts of trafficking in prescription painkillers — an estimated 114 years behind bars. But he did say, “Misty understands this is serious, and has decided to take her lawyers advice.”

Maybe drugs is not his specialty.

Or, maybe he can do it but not pro bono, so is seeking payment of some sort.

Cool Tobias!!

Cathartic I will do it for you!!

This just in… somewhere in Florida… (((((BoMbShElL)))))… I’ve got HollyG, standing by… Spill it HollyG! Cathartic, put HollyG’s face on the screen… put her up now!! I want to see her face!!!

unleash the lawyers. lol BAC You crack me up. Thanks I think we all needed a good laugh right now. jmo

Yes.. Tobias… ((((unleash)))) the lawyers. Wait a sec, I’ve got MeThinks speaking in my ear. Now, M2C are you ready to give me an answer? Well, guess what Cent… that ain’t gonna fly!!!! Forget you’re working for the defense… just give me a straight answer, Cent, can you?

Yes.. Mizz Nancy, but I will be cut off!!

Maybe the dog in question is a boxer.

Hey Treece!

Now, Treece… you haven’t lied to me yet, that I know of!!! You have graduated from a prestiges Law School, you have an excellent reputation/credentials…. Now tell me, why your client can’t keep his/her story straight?

So Gang… HollyG’s Public Defender question was asked, Jan voiced it!!! But, I can’t remember the answers! Please fill her in. TY

From what was said on the program, it looks like the news is good for Cobra. GO COBRA! I HAVE BEEN PRAYING FOR YOU! I so hope you walk out from under that dark cloud you have been under.

Cathy are you here??

OJ, I never have any trouble tuning in to the radio show. How are you going about it? I just come to BNN home page or an article and click on the Blog Talk Radio box (in blue and white) near the top of the page and on the right.
Then I click on Play/Chat which is on the left of the page that appears. In a few seconds I’m hearing it. I’m usually a few minutes late so it’s already in progress but anyway that works for me. Hope this helps.

Cent:

You are funny! We need a good laugh around here, sometimes.

I didn’t see that MG video about her saying Haleighs in Georgia or Alabama…I keep going back to those Tim Holmseth/cobra interviews w/ that Goodwill sighting. I had posted previously it was in Kentucky,but I went back and listened and it was in GEORGIA. And werent they in Alabama at one time too. Does anyone know what I’m talking about, where the witness to the goodwill and gas station sighting picked the man out of a mugshot and it was Johhny Sheffield? (I know I keep talking bout it) J.Sheffield was also the one who Cobra said got his pants in a wad when they said it wasn’t blood on the glove. It’s on Flood of Noah on Youtube. People say T. Holmseth is nuts, but u never know…
Beautiful adams: are u sure u aren’t getting pneumonia? please be careful.This cold thing is spreading where I live and its kicking peoples a**es. Take ur temp and that’s an order!!

Do you have a fever Adams,shewwww don’t wanna scare ya but remember my dp…thought i’d die with a fever!!

CathyJo always has a link, and that’s agood thing.

Sorry, another post; I love the attorney who rhymes!! (Nancy) : “lets unleash the lawyers..” “Gators and taters, guess we’ll see ya later..” Sorry, couldn’t resist. Thanks for the great laughs!!

LoL Karon,if i just had one to link my brain together,lol

The alligators are probably more afraid of them, than they are of the alligators. They probably have those alligators and dogs doped up. ” Here, have a little smoke.”

My husband always says, when he sees the rhyming lawyer, “There’s the bulldog.”

Bulldog! LoL Doberman mixed! LoL

Here, have a little smoke.”

roflmsao! now thats funny,prolly true but funny,…lol sorta!

Karon my neighbors about 6 yrs ago had a parakeet and she had that parakeet trained to drink beer from her glass,it would fly right onto the edge sit there and drink!ohhh wasn’t my bird but i swear if i coulda fit it in my pocket,he’d be free today!

I use to love N/g and now i hater i guess cause i don’t have cable and can’t watch,lol but she does compare to much to her own life to suit me anymore.lol

LMAOROTF Cent, Ronfan, & Karon!!!

You guys are great! I gotta go listen to the show…It’s been pretty hectic at work here today so no time yet to hear…Thanks for getting my question in there! I can’t wait to hear the answer!

Play with aligators….here have a little smoke…LOL!!! Still laughing my booty off!!!

Yup!!! But a fantastic group!!!! 🙂

kept quiet.

Hello Gang,
Just popped around in-between MI5 vids. Glad we all had a laugh. I think we all know the value of humor. My son just gave me his Sunday reminder for the 7th time, that Family Guy is on tonight!! Talk about shoving humor in your face, sheesshh… my kid is so pushy!!! I hope it’s a new episode!!!

I love Family Guy Holly’s,as a matter of fact i like alot of shows i didn’t use too because i get one channel wiff my cawfee can!!!

CathyJo, the dog came up because of the discussion about why a patrol car was at Tommy’s that night. Someone here found a police report saying there was a dog nuisance call on 2/10/09 at 116 Tyler. And we were wondering what time that complaint came in. So far we cannot find the officer’s report.

Karon Cox said,in February 28th, 2010 at 7:53 pm CathyJo always has a link, and that’s agood thing.
********
It should be but i get carried away sometimes,lol but omg Karon when i had dial up ohhhhh Lord it drove me batty!!so thats why i keep the vids laying around,lol

Shoot,you talk about withdrawls, staying away from you guys will givem to ya!!

LOL Cawfee can….reminds me of an old commercial we used to have here. There’s this guy that had a fishing show for years and he did a lot of the local commercials (especially Ala businesses) anywhy, when satellites first came out ( and I’m talking about the HUGE dishes) he had a commercial where he held up a metal washtub and would call “Come in satellite”…LOL! I guess maybe you had to be there .

Oh BA, I know how important humor is. And your Miz Nancy thing was a hoot! I just shy away from humor here ’cause the last time I tried I was accused of being mean. That’s all. I love the humor here, when it does happen, but I bow out so that I will not offend.

Yes Adams,I am fine as my whine..lol ty Glad you’re feeling better,id have had to make ya some of my mamas lampoil remedy,lol

It could be that there was often noise coming from that MH. Maybe neighbors who heard any that night dismissed it as the norm.

Same for barking dogs. If they barked often, it might have been dismissed as insignificant.

Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2009-02-27 1 LOCAL ORD CITN:#09-1334 (02-10-09) PCSO/R CLARKE

2009-02-27 1 PUBLIC ANIMAL NUSIANCE

2009-02-27 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 03/12/2009

2009-02-27 2 OFFICER’S REPORT

2009-04-17 3 $57.00 LOCAL ORDINANCE FINE PAID

Note the date….2-10-09

Interesting. It appears his dog was running amok. Neighbors must have called LE.
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/archive/index.php/t-364686.html

Thanks Cathy@9:16!

I’ve got a question… Is it or was it possible for LE to get a satellite image of the MH/neighborhood for that night/time?? Some how/reason I am under the impression that it is possible to do so, even a year later.

***could be my MI5 mode…talkin***

If you do HollyG. be careful and stay in-touch… and DO NOT share the day/time/where, here openly… please!!

hmmmmmm,I don’t have enough memory to dl google earth but i know that can be done,my daughter looked right on the front porch of our old place in ky,so i’d say it can be done! I dunno if it was GE she used,cant remember but in Caylee’s case i did look at the dumpster she parked by!!

Yes, sounds like GE CathyJo, I love that program…

Cent: I hear you loud & clear….

Sorry Cath,thats all i can find about the dog! I will keep looking tho!

Yes, I think it’s worth looking into. However, I suppose that if it could be done after the fact… showing activity on that day… then we probably wouldn’t be here. So I guess I just kicked myself in the shins!!

I think Google Earth images are updated from time to time, but not likely daily. We were able to see the tents/tarps Garrido had but those were there even before Google Earth came into existence.

Back when Caylee was first reported missing,I went to ge to watch crocs….saw the swings at the old school,was being nosey,as usual.lol

HollyG… exactly… I’m always thinking of those kinds of things… at one point I hounded my mother about this little piece of something in the palm of my hand, thinkingit was some kind of implant. Just couldn’t decide if it was the Gov.. or aliens. LOL

True Holly’s and i can’t wait for the day when theres a way to go back and watch what ppl were doing during their crimes…..if ya know what i mean,I mean i don’t wanna be spied on..if someone does spy on me i hope they get a bigger thrill than i do..lol but just saying,it won’t be long till ya can’t pass gas without being watched!

Cent; I am a conspiracy theorist from way back… 😉

Yes… CCTV is huge in Europe. I don’t really like the idea of a Big Brother constanly… But, if that is what it takes to save the babies… so be it!!

Cathy, yes I’ve seen some GE images… that’s why it’s hard to believe that LE are not capable of capturing that night events!!

Unable to see any cars past trees….We can try again though…

HollyG if you do go… lets all have done our homework… regarding satellite images/GE

I agree cent….If I do go, I need to be prepared!

“If you think you’re being watched….that’s going down in your file” LOL!!!

I mean shux,i’s rather it said cathy was at a nuthouse when it occured than say she waas over the body,lol

Off topic,well not really,but the next pacemaker i get will be the new ones,nothing like those in the 70’s when i first got mine,now the new ones will notify your dr. of anything that goes wrong..no matter where you or him are!But b/c i have had mine as long as i’ve had my limbs bassically,i can always tell them before they know mines going down!

I meant Cath!

LOL!!!

That last one…. a birdie told me!!!!

Now… since I am a betting type of gal… and I am no stranger to truth or dare!!! I dare one of you!!!

BA…it’s isn’t paranoia when they really are out to get you 😉

LOL! I can see my obss’s face now….

“Lesa, why are the FBI at my hotel?” LMAO!

CathyJo…LOL! I’ve thought the same thing….too many different searches for those types of things…

*Boss’s My typing dyslexia is acting up again, LOL!

Trying to listen to show….again…LOL!

BRB Daughter,phone!

LOL!!! We each have our own “talents” LOL!

HGM:

You know what happened to Cobra, sleuthing around in Satsuma. They don’t take kindly to it.

You may wind up a guest in the hotel with bars like alot of other’s have in Satsuma.

Karon, they do! Dogs have abilities to sense things humans can’t. I think it is not just a heightened sense of smell either. There have been cases of a pet knowing in advance if their owner was ill, even before the person became symptomatic. Dogs have notified people of carbon monoxide in the home even though it has no odor.

As per Cobra and me getting behind bars….I will be extremely carefull to not break any laws…not even trespassing, lol!

That doesn’t cover the unreported stuff either…

Cathartic;

I’ve heard many stories (news articles) about pets either forewarning their owners of impending disasters or illensses or rescueing them from such…Pretty amazing really.

I have had another thought about why the tapes from jail may have suddenly stopped. Maybe, someone told LE what they wanted to know, and they stopped the tapes, because they are getting their case wrapped up. They may not want the case to get transferred anyplace else, so they stopped the publicity. After all, things got really quiet awfully quick. I mean, not a peep. Misty really didn’t have much else to lose, since she is going away for so long. They may have made her a good deal. Then, Tommy and Ronald may have told whatever they knew. I’m just sayin!

Karon, I have considered that as well. Possibly they have spoken to their attorneys and negotiations are underway between the attorneys and the DA.

I know. I have two little chiwawas that knew I was seriously ill 1 1/2 yrs ago. They wouldn’t leave my side. One of them would get down to eat, nervously, watching me the whole time. The doctors found a noncancerous tumor in my neck that was causing me to have seizures. They got it out, and I am doing much better, now, and the dogs have relaxed. They knew, more than the humans sround me how seriously ill I was.

DO you think NG will “credit” me? LMAO!

We are off on alligators, birds and dogs tonight. What did you say about the lawyers? These animal stories can be pretty interesting, you know.

O.K. That just takes us right back to the dogs barking, but I will try to behave.

Misty had applied for a public defender due to indigency as of Feb 18th…the day after Fields sent Padilla the Cease & Desist letter. She is being assigned a PD but no name as of yet….

I was looking at the criminal dockets for TC & any Croslin and happened to take a look at Misty’s and found the new info quiet by accident….

No, not as far as LP is concerned but her getting a PD is a FACT….It’s posted earlier in this thread…somewhere around 1:00 pm….I’ll try to repost…

I just wonder what the deal is for sure, now. This is getting real interesting. Wouldn’t it be wonderful, if they found Haleigh, and all this gets settled? That Misty is a tough little nut to crack.

It was asked on the show (thanks chatroom!)and TJ said he had no knowledge at that time and no one else on the show had that info either…Can we say …”BOMBSHELL” LOL!

Misty kept complaining on those tapes that her lawyer wasn’t doing anything for her. I am sure Fields has been pulling his hair out, dealing with her. I am sure they will get a high-priced lawyer in there pro bono, for this high-publicity case.

Everything stopped when she went to court that day. No more tapes, no news stories. And you can’t help but wonder why.

Everything’s too quiet, all of sudden. Misty’s dad seemed to be getting really worried about what Misty was going to say about Tommy.

We have seen a different side of Tommy, also, that we didn’t know about. We heard about the domestic disturbances, too. His wife seems so crazy about him, but I don’t know.

No, it’s not a case that can be won. The only thing that might be possible is a deal for reduced charges.

I think if it were one or two times the argument of set-up might be valid. But it’s pretty hard to argue so many incidents. LE planned it that way. They weren’t going to waste their time doing anything that wouldn’t stick.

BA, did you hear it…or do it?

Cathartic… Cathartic!!!

Here I am trying to get serious!!!

I thought Hank Sr was trying to warn Tommy that he was worried about what Misty was going to tell. She has said look at Tommy and joe before, but she said it and nothing else, with it, to make anyone think she was serious. She was, also, saying things that seemed to be throwing people off.

They sure haven’t been serious about getting down to the truth of finding Haleigh. Have they? Even TN sat bawling on NG and lied, lied, and lied some more. Ron hasn’t been serious either, so I wonder what part he played. IMO

We ain’t heard of none of them which hopefully means,all helz fixin to break loose!

I’ll tell ya,I’d hate to have a PD on those charges!

Thats funny.who waits in anticipation for all hello to break loose!
Me for one but only in this case.lol

LoL Adams,I think its because we use initials for all these ppl and we don’t think of the obvious..lol
Like i have done,no joke……I saw le for the first time and i was thinking Lisa….lindsey..and thought,but there are no E’s!

Speaking of which,my daughters next door neighbor is the father of 18 yr old Megan Maxwell,She has been featured on AMW Twice already,she went missing about a yr ago coming from her dads house and and nothing,no clues…though her car was burned to the ground….IMO her dad did it!you just wouldn’t believe it!

Tennessee Teen Megan Maxwell Missing

Megan’s car was found on fire hours after she went missing.
Tennessee teenager Megan Maxwell called a friend at 4:27 a.m. on April 26, 2009 to say she would be home soon, but she never made it.
Less than two hours later, at 6:10 a.m, an off-duty police officer discovered Megan’s red 2001 Mitsubishi Eclipse engulfed in flames.The car was totally destroyed.
Megan’s friends describe her as a social butterfly. Now, her family and friends have teamed up with law enforcement to search the area near where Megan was last seen, and where her car was found near the French Broad River.

Cocke County High School released students from school to join in the search effort, but they found nothing.

My God,I didn’t know that!why do people do that!!

I don’t know for sure if they were planning on taking him on the next deal.

I heard Misty tell the UC they had left a job to meet him, but had to go pick up Jr. and then go to another job.

But they were doing lawn work. Maybe they left a lawn job to meet the UC, and were going to another lawn job after picking up Jr.

It’s not conclusive that she meant they were going to another drug deal.

All JMO.

I read today that GrandmaS dropped the laundy off on the back porch b/c no one was home,then we hear she brought it in,so I wonder..because if she took them to the backdoor then I’m sure she knew they used that door!

Karon, he was not in pick up on drug bust. Ron wasn’t even in his pick up. He was with his aunt and Jr was at day care. You are mistaken about that info.

Treece:

I am not going there tonight. I am not in any poor Ron and TN mood. Sorry!

Karon, I guess I don’t understand what you mean.
I am just giving you the facts. Ron was there in Katrina’s car, his aunts. Jr was at day care.
Is that what you are meaning, going there?

CathyJo, it is sad it is the kids that suffer the most from bad choices that parents make.

Exactly,I don’t know why people don’t get that? If drugs and crime are in a childs life,it becomes familiar to them so when someone offers it to them they know they’ve been around it with parents so probably don’t think its bad!

Well, Jr is out of there, now. I am just hoping he is in a better place. I hope and pray.

I am wondering about MG, too. That sounded kind of funny on the program, tonight. Didn’t it?

I havent listened yet Karom,was it good? lol

The radio program was good. They were waiting, like we all are, for more details to come out. It is just so quiet!

Niter:

I think Misty said the 8th or the 18th.

I suppose Misty will have to have a new attorney by then or they will give her a delay.

Haven’t listened yet but just seems there is no new news

Just seems odd there has been no new tapes I mean tapes were the news and all of a sudden No tapes and you know they are all still making their calls every chance they get…Makes ya wonder if LE is not releasing tapes now or If maybe no media etc. are requesting tapes or what?

As far as Jr at drug deal, no but they were illing to pick him up from day care WITH the drugs in their vehicle…..That’s gonna get em. Misty plainly tells the UC that they are planning to pick up Jr from daycare as soon as the transaction is finished then Ron (and maybe Misty) were returning to the job site.

Niter:
I don’t know about the tapes. It seems all of a sudden that they got quiet. Doesn’t it? We were wondering if someone has given LE the info. they wanted, but noone knows anything for sure.

I’m convinced Tommy never went to the house at 10pm. All we have is his word, no proof.
What about the blanket; Why did Misty in the first interviews state “my blanket was in the van they took”….What sense does that make? Then she said she only has 2 friends in town, and she hangs out w/them when she needs a break and just to get away…then she stated she knows she shouln’t hang w/them, and that she won’t be anymore..WIERD. Why would she have even said that mouthfull? Almost like she felt guilty for allowing those people around her and the kids. Would that be NayNay and Amber, Im not really up to par on that. Go back and try and find that video; I think its on you tube.

Too quiet…….

RonFan
Whats your opinion on why it seems that Ron has always seemed to protect/stand by Misty?

I heard real early on in the case that a neighbor saw Tommy come by there that night. I think, when Tommy admitted that, it was just confirmation to LE.

When Misty said her blanket was in the van that they took, she probably meant LE had taken the van. She didn’t have a blanket, and Haleigh’s had been peed on, so she washed Haleigh’s blanket and took one down that was covering a window for herself. That is the way I understood it, but I thought something was wrong about the blanket story from the start. She talked more about the blanket than she did about Haleigh being missing.

HGM:
Yes, I think she did.

Karon…the blanket that was supposed to be on the bed that night was in the “van that they took”. THe night Haleigh was abducted. She took the one off of the window to use because the other was gone. Haleigh’s was allegedly washed.

So who “took the van” with Misty’s regular blanket in it? Why was her blanket in the van to begin with? Did they ever recover it? Is it still missing too? That’s what makes me suspect that Ron’s bedding had been changed. The missing blanket and possibly sheets.

If so, what was on that bedding that they couldn’t hide or wash out?

HGM:

I am not sure if Misty was talking about LE confiscating the van for evidence or Tommy and Joe taking the van and scratching it. I don’t know why Misty’s blanket was in the van.

I heard Misty in an interview saying she washed Haleigh’s blanket, then covered her with it. Then she said, “I made my bed and then I went to bed.” It was something real close to that. She wouldn’t be needing to make her bed unless she changed the sheets.

Intially it was 03/03? I think? I’ll try to help find it too….but now it is 03/31 for at least Misty & Ron…I’ll check TC, Hope, & DB as well.

Good point Karon, about the making of the bed.

I guess you could be right about the van issue…never thought of it like that…that she was saying the blanket was in the van that LE took….interesting, does make sense though….

ANother good question…I wonder if LE could tell…other than obvioussuch as fresh smell.

I really do feel that if the bed really was still made it was an error. They had to change the bedding and when they remade it, they forgot and left it neat instead of slept in.

Thats what I don’t get about the blanket issue. It was the interview w/Misty wearing the now infamous jacket w/the green circles all over it, and Lisa Croslin next to her. And again, listen carefully to what she says about the 2 friends. She even ends with a statement that shes not hanging out w/them anymore.
Why was Misty’s blanket in the van in the first place:was it evidence that someone was trying to hide? She was referring to “that night” that Haleigh was taken, so thats why she had to take the Blanket that was covering the window…cuz hers(misty’s) was in the van….Guess it’s true, we have to go back to the first 24-72 hours.

Tommy goes to court for battery on Sr on Wednesday…

UCN: 542009MM004232XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-11-19 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:

Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2009-11-20 1 ARREST REPORT – PCSO/ LEDBETTER (ARREST 11-19-09)

2009-11-20 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 09-04807

2009-11-20 1 BATTERY DVR/ HANK CROSLIN SR

2009-11-20 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 11-20-09

2009-11-20 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING

2009-11-20 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

2009-11-20 2 $504.00 SECURED BOND SET

2009-11-20 2 NO VIOLENT CONTACT WITH HANK CROSLIN SR

2009-11-23 3 $504.00 A-1 24HR CITY BEST BAIL BONDS#2236038 11-20-09

2009-12-03 4 INFORMATION – DOMESTIC BATTERY

2009-12-03 5 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (01-14-2010)

2009-12-03 6 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (01-14-2010)

2010-01-14 7 ARR MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, WAIVING RIGHT TO COUNSEL

2010-01-14 7 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY – PRE-TRIAL SET 03/03/10

2010-01-14 8 WAIVER OF COUNSEL

2010-01-14 9 PRE-TRIAL ORDER (03-03-2010)

2010-01-15 10 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NOLLE PROSEQUI

ronfan, I can tell you why Misty’s blanket was in the van.

sorry posted too fast.
When Misty left on Thurs after her & Ron’s fight she took her belongings, including her blanket with her. When she was dropped off at Tommy’s early Sunday morning all of her stuff was put in the van. Monday she had still not unloaded her things back at Rons house.

Wanna see DB’s????

HGB:

Yeah! She is an interesting character.

UCN: 541979MM001568XXAXMX
File Date: Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:

Defendant
BROCK, DONNA L
Alias

Date # Docket Description

That is NOT a misprint…SHe’s listed but without ANYTHING filed for or against her? Not in Putnam….Why then is she listed? IS soemthing coming, drug deal related for Putnam?COuld it be the smuggling charge I have been theorizing about? SPeculation!!!! JMO

Niter: It appears to me that in the beginning Ron did stand by Misty, probably b/c of the shock and emotions of what happened. I noticed though as things progressed and more was exposed, and Ron was questioned about Misty, in usual Ron fashion he began to answer w/his careful, giving out “just enough info” style. point in case: when NG asked him about the LD results, he didn’t say yes,or no; his response was a careful: “Im not a polygrapher”,hmmm but if u watch his eyes, he doesnt even blink, another ? he answered was something like “its not inconsistent w/what shes saying to LE”…He’s very careful, I dont think in a guilty way, but in a savvy way; I find that the only time he “opens up” w/his own opinions is when it pertains to his feelings on his daughter. I haven’t ever heard him directly make statements to defend or incriminate ANYONE. Think about it. That’s why I say he is smarter than any of em’!

Did we know about this???

UCN: 542010CF000023XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-04 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty:

Defendant
SYKES, HOPE A
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2010-01-04 1 ARREST REPORT – PPD OFF/HUSKEY (ARREST 1/3/10)

2010-01-04 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 10-00026

2010-01-04 1 POSSESSION OF SCHEDULE II SUBSTANCE

2010-01-04 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 1/3/10

2010-01-04 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING

2010-01-04 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

2010-01-04 2 DEFENDANT RELEASE

2010-02-02 3 INFORMATION (POSSESSION OF SCHEDULE II SUBSTANCE)

2010-02-02 4 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03/02/2010)

2010-02-08 5 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AND APPOINT REGIONAL CONFLICT

2010-02-08 5 COUNSEL

2010-02-10 6 MOTION TO TRANSFER

2010-02-11 7 ORDER GRANTING DIVISION CHANGE TO “52”

UCN: 542010CF000143XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty:

Defendant
SYKES, HOPE A
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2010-01-21 1 COMPLAINT – PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (1/13/10)

2010-01-21 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A

2010-01-21 1 TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE MORE THAN 14 GRAMS LESS

2010-01-21 1 THAN 28 GRAMS

2010-01-21 2 WARRANT ISSUED – BOND SET AT $150.000.00

2010-01-22 3 ARREST REPORT: TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (1/20/10)

2010-01-22 4 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG

2010-01-22 4 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING

2010-01-22 4 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

2010-01-22 4 $150,000.00 SECURED BOND SET

2010-01-22 5 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS

2010-01-22 6 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER

2010-01-22 7 MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF

2010-01-22 7 BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT’S

2010-01-22 7 RELEASE ON BAIL (“NEBBIA HEARING”)

2010-01-22 8 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE

2010-01-22 8 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (“NEBBIA HEARING”)

2010-01-22 8 PRIOR TO DEFENDANT’S RELEASE ON BAIL

2010-01-22 9 WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED

2010-02-03 10 INFORMATION – TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (14G-28G)

2010-02-03 11 MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIVISION 52

2010-02-03 12 ORDER OF TRANSFER TO DIVISION 52

2010-02-03 13 MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL

2010-02-08 14 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AND APPOINT REGIONAL CONFLICT

2010-02-08 14 COUNSEL

2010-02-09 15 ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE

2010-02-10 16 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL

Thanks Treece, that makes sense, cuz she was referring to the actual events of before she put the kids to sleep, and she said Haleighs blanket had pee on it, and since my (misty) blanket was in the van THEY took, (My god, who is THEY) THAT’S A BIG QUESTION, DID ANYONE EVER FIND OUT WHO “THEY” WERE.** anyway, thats when she said she had to take another blanket off the window. **ok, help me here, who the heck was in this VAN?? And now Im wondering if Tommy’s red truck was the one Cousin Joe was spotted w/in Tennessee?

Hmmmmm Hope arrested earlier for drugs …didn’t know that!

niterbug….me either…..

DB’s most recent filing:

2/22/2010 ORDER ON DEFENDANT’S MOTION FOR REDUCTION OF BAIL (DENIED)

HGmom, DENIED, don’t you know that is a word they hate.

I have wondered if DB was working for LE on this. The way she was smiling when she was in court. That did not look like an unhappy woman to me.

Ronfan:

I have considered that Ron was the one that set Misty up, but the thing that holds me back is Ron was so high on that UC tape. He, also, popped a pill for the world to see. I wouldn’t think that would have gone down that way. Also, I wonder why they jerked Jr. out of that home so fast, if they knew Ron wasn’t truly in trouble. Another thing that makes me wonder is that so many people saw Ron drugged and with a handful of pills. On one of those NG tapes, Ron was definitely drugged.

Has Tommy had another battery charge in Putnam County, other than the one against Sr? I know he has one from Flagler and would have had 2 if the charges hadn’t been dropped and a violation of protective injunction case dropped. Lindsy!!! If it turns out the TC really did hurt Haleigh, I’m gonna have a hrad time not resting some blame on those who could have made sure TC was not out hurting people but chose instead to serve themselves.

If this case with Sr is his 3rd offense, does that mean he’s f=getting the three strikes rule used against him? I gotta go check Putnam records again…

Ronfan: Don’t worry I don’t think your crazy! I just like hearing everyones thoughts regardless cause it helps me to keep looking at this whole situation/mess from every angle!

Well, bedtime for me. I am sorry I got cross with you, Treece. I was just on a mad about those kids and tired. I don’t think we have had any problems. Goodnight all.

HollysGmom said,in February 28th, 2010 at 2:47 pm Ronald’s Docket File

Sorry Niterbug, just trying to save space….It’s posted at that time earlier today..most recent filings….exact same as Misty’s last two entires.

If Ron didn’t have anything to do with Haleigh going missing I just wonder what he may have learned since that night??

Karon, I have my off days too, no problem. Sweet dreams to you all. I am going to bed, too.

Misty’s Legal name is:

CROSLIN CUMMINGS, MISTY JANETTE
CROSLIN, MISTY JANETTE (Alias)
CUMMINGS, MISTY JANETTE (Alias)

TY for all your detective work, Hollys. That’s a lot of info you dug up!

I’m not following you. Why is it odd? It may be odd, I just am not seeing why.

What is ODD, is DB. From start to finish I can’t figure out what’s going on with her. And why her docket shows things as completed already. At least she is still in jail; I just checked.

Sr. must have dropped the it. If he made the complaint in the first place I think he is entitled to drop it. And it sounds like he has done that.

DB’s is 4/6

LOL it’s going to be a family reunion in the courtroom that day. Maybe there will even be a wedding, ya never know with this bunch.

Even Hope is being “transferred to Division 52” so she too will stand before JUdge LaRue…just no date yet…anyone care to guess? Her previous charge is also under Judge LaRue.

Maybe this is the date I should go to Putnam…LOL! I can “report” from the courthouse for yous guys. LOL!

Walmart in Palatka if I recall correctly.

Maybe consolidations are done to save money, but that still wouldn’t explain Hank Sr and Lisa being on the same day.

DB is a puzzler, all the way around. Her entire involvement with Misty from beginning to end, it’s all just too weird.

I wonder if the next info we get will be someone gets out on bond, or other persons are arrested. Because I do think something’s brewing.

DB has filed for a NEEBA hearing courts response (Taken under advisement) filed 02/17/10

motion for bond reduction filed 02/22/10

We have this to look forward to

03/08/10 Felony Arrainment

Misty

3/8/2010 1:30:00 PM FELONY ARRAIGNMENT BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328

Same as DB….co-defendants?

Judge Berger will also be hearing 1 felong bond hearing (not our girls) and 12 Felony VOP arrainments that same timeframe….1:30 PM until 5:00 PM

“Three may keep a secret if two of them are dead.”
Benjamin Franklin
*****************************************
I like that quote,the truth will come out sooner or later!! Cause they’re among the living!
*************************************
Heres an interesting article about Joe Overstreet.look’s awfully shady….IMO
and about the gun Hank Jr took!

The complaint that put Hank Croslin Jr, Misty Croslin’s brother, behind bars on a grand theft charge!
http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/the-complaint-that-put-hank-croslin-jr-misty-croslins-brother-behind-bars-on-a-grand-theft-charge/

The thing with Ron saying that about the Judge, naming them and all… makes ME wonder if he’s trying to sabotage LE’s efforts, to me that’s not something that is just floating thru the jail… he mentioned specific folk on audio. Yes, I can’t believe he didn’t have “ill” intentions.

Beautiful adams, omg,ur absolutely right..inmates usually do know about all the judges and their personalities and style, BUT,your right, how could Ron have even known who Misty’s judge would be? That was like only 2 days after the arrests, right? Aw man, what’s goin’ on here?? There’s no way he would have been able to have known that…unless it’s always the same Judge for Felonies, idk; but yeah, that is definitely NOT something he should of said.

What happens if she does indeed have to deal with that Judge… I think her attorney will have some serious reasons for an investigation into PCSD, Prosecutors Office, etc. Would LE really risk it, by using this unpredictable hot-head in that capacity. Remember, we only hear it from Ron, that LE wanted to use him against Misty, and as far as I can see… he never clarified if he did cooperate. The convo with his mom, was vague… and a bit rehearsed… not in a “good” way.. imo

Well, if I were Misty… or her Attorney… I’d be fighting loudly!!!

I believe there is pill slippage!! Just don’t know how many times… But, once is too many!!

Sorry, I didn’t check over here at that time… I was feeling the same!!