We will be running our regular program at 3pm Sunday Apr/25. Both the Caylee Anthony and Haleigh Cummings will be discussed. (No griping in the chatroom).
Our panel is still being finalized, however it is likely to be Simon and Jan Barrett, award winning journalist and News Director for The Sky 97.3 TJ Hart, Investigator William Cobra Staubs, and crime writer Denny Griffin.
I am also very happy to announce that we will be featuring a wonderful new addition to the panel Peter Hyatt. Peter is currently employed by the state of Maine as an investigator and has been involved in many high profile cases.
His speciality is not one that many people have heard of, Statement Analysis. Just like a Profiler can build a mental picture of a suspect from physical evidence, Peter builds cases based on the spoken and written word. There is much that can be gleaned from even seemingly innocuous comments.
This investigative branch is somewhat akin to Polygraph analysis, he is looking for deception. Deception seems to be prevalent in both the Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony cases so he certainly has plenty to analyse!
He is hoping to have an analysis of the Cobra tapes (article and article) for us by Sunday, however he has asked me to put out a call for help to BNN’s loyal readers. He needs someone to transcribe the audio’s. There are six in total and they are quite short. The key though is accuracy. There can be no ‘interpreting’. If you would like to volunteer for this mission drop Jan a line (jannyo@gmail.com).
Last weeks radio program broke some records in terms of live listeners and later downloaded copies, I have a feeling that this week is going to be similar.
What is truly unique is that we will have one of the protagonists caught on tape, Cobra, on the panel. I think this will lead to a pretty interesting discussion. In my opinion far more interesting than the battling Gummies Grammies that was featured on HLN.
Once again this week was a busy one in the Haleigh Cummings case. There is plenty to talk about and we certainly have the team to do that!
To listen in just point your browser at www.blogtalkradio.com a few minutes before we go on air, or you can use this link to connect directly.
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Thanks Simon, Jan and TJ . Just ignore Jay . Some people are just so nasty. They need prayer and lots of it!!!!!!!
Thanks Simon. LOL on the “no griping in the chatroom”. That place can get really animated, I’ll say that!
Can’t wait to listen!
Look…Jay stutters! LOL
This radio show sounds like a MUST for anyone interested in this case. We need to find HollysGmom…she is our transcriptionist! WAKE UP HOLLYSG….WE NEED YOU!
Thank you Simon.
Would be good to hear Cobra’s thoughts and opinions regarding the taped conversations between himself and Ron.
thanks simon I will be there..
Simon, any change of lenghtening the show?
2 1/2 or even 3 hours? thanks
Tuff, I am wondering if Cobra was as caught off guard as we where about Rons lack of emotion when he makes those statements.I give Cobra a lot of credit for not losing it right then KWIM .JMO
Is it possible Cobra could help the transcriptionist(s) with any questions about what is being said? It seems he would be able to clarify what is being said.
Thanks Simon for your continued dedication to this case and to the Justice for Haleigh fight.
Here is my theory–An SO is responsible and as long as LE suspects these people (Misty, Tommy, Joe, etc) are responsible, the longer the SO has to cover his tracks. He all ready had 14 months, how much longer is LE willing to give him? No theory will cover all the questions we are seeking concerning Public Enemies Number Ones (Misty, Tommy, Joe, etc) because LE has “focused” on the wrong people since day one! Not the first time this has happened. JMO
H as anyone read the Kristina Hepp story out of Gainesville? Could this case be like that one?jmo
Just like the abduction and murder of Amber Dubois. Almost immediately LE treated her case as a “runaway” which hindered the investigation. The Jon Benet Ramsey case is another case where LE said “No stranger involved” and focused intensely on the family. Look at that case now several years later and still unsolved! BUT THE DAMAGE WAS DONE TO THE RAMSEY FAMILY! They were villified and still are by LE`s focus!
Hey Gang,
Anyone know when Hope goes to court?
tobias–Just read about Kristina Hepp. OMG the father had only been charged with manslaughter? They need to change that to 1st degree murder. Sickening!
tobias–Just read about Kristina Hepp. OMG the father had only been charged with manslaughter? They need to change that to 1st degree murder. Sickening!
the parents of Danielle Van Dam were crucified by LE and the media when their child was taken from her bed. Their “lifestyle” was blamed for her going missing.
Turned out to be a neighbor she sold girl scout cookies too.
tobias,I just read the Kristina Hepp story. Incredibly sad and horrific. As if grieving for Haleigh isn’t enough. I hope that isn’t what happened to Haleigh. It would need to be Misty, right, if she— I have to stop. I appreciate knowing about Kristina Hepp, though, so thank you.
OJ`s Glove–As well as the Dowaliby case. LE focused on David Dowaliby, ruined his life, incarcerated him for years, took him and his wife`s children and put them in foster care (maternal grandmother) and come to find he was innocent but not before damage was done. That case is still unsolved because of LE`s focus on David almost immediately.
Hope’s court date is the Tuesday, April 27. I don’t know the time if this helps.
Okie… Thanks!!!
Could you ask Cobra the reason for him lying about me? I know that you won’t
blstarke…who are you and what did Cobra supposedly say about you? Could you BE anymore cryptic if you tired?
I cant believe that Nancy Grace would invite Annette Sykes on her show for Ms. Hollar who I believe has no credibility whatsoever to tell her that now Haleigh was raped? There is absolutely no evidence backing that up and for that g-maw to hear that when she is going thru enough already. Nancy Grace makes me sick!!
blstarke do you believe this new “confession” about Joe Overstreet? I am having a hard time believing this story is true I think they are at the end of their rope and want to tell LE what they want to hear.
Jb–blstarke has posted here before. I thought she was the dog handler but might be mistaken.
blstarke said,in April 23rd, 2010 at 3:10 pm Could you ask Cobra the reason for him lying about me? I know that you won’t
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You know they won’t. Its all a game. It will eventually all come out and you will be vindicated for all those that lied and used you and Gunny. Don’t worry, justice is slow,but, have faith it is coming. You on twitter now?
robin…thanks…just curious what that was all about. Drama Drama Drama.
You’re right Robin, her dog is Gunny.
Look forward to the show.
You’re right Robin, her dog is Gunny.
I look forward to the show.
I thought TJ and Cobra were “retiring” from the case, what happened to that??
I don’t know about Cobra, but TJ has been doing some reporting on the case now, and was on the show last week. I hope that means he’s starting to feel better.
It sounds like a great show.
Mainly Cobra was there and interviewed and taped these people and I think his being on the show is way more credible than anyone else.
He has the on the ground, in Satsuma at the time knowledge. Yeah he is a little rough around the edges but he knows how these peole acted at the time when they werent being recorded for TV. jmo
Lies are prevalent in this case. Maybe if some of these lies are cleared up then the main focus will once again be Haleigh. Sadly, the liars and the lies have hindered this investigation and has obstructed the justice that Haleigh and her family so richly deserves! And its shameful that some of the lies originated from Haleigh`s families, the ones who above else should want justice to be served for this beautiful child!
I posted this on Peter’s blog, but I’d like to post it here too because I’d LOVE to get some of your thoughts…
There are a couple of things that have me wondering about Casey’s claims of abuse:
1. She writes about the claims of abuse to a jailhouse pal – but only after the jailhouse pal makes claims of abuse first.
~Does this make the claim potentially unbelievable? yet another Casey lie? It could be that she is simply spinning some BS in an effort to appear to have common ground with Robin.
2. She states that the only people she ever told about the abuse were her mother and Jesse Grund. She also says that neither believed her and were even negative in their feedback.
~I’m curious that she did not tell anyone else of this alleged abuse. I have been through childhood sexual abuse. In my case, there were several perpetrators – some family, some not. Hiding the abuse due to shame was certainly there, but there were occasions where I did tell trusted people. I told a school counselor when I was in the 3rd grade. I also told my best friend when I was in the 7th grade. Further, while we know Cindy is a liar like Casey, has anyone asked Jesse if he can confirm or deny Casey’s allegations of abuse?
3. I don’t think Casey comes right out and accuses George of abuse. She hints at it and beats around the bush, but she doesn’t state a definitive accusation. Just as you mentioned before, I think she wants the reader to interpret an accusation from her statements. I don’t think this is an accident. What do you think of it?
4. I think it is interesting that her family has made little comments about the abuse allegations other than “she was never abused.” Casey’s jailhouse letters have helped to clearly show the division in the family of “Casey” against “them” (Lee, George, and Cindy). Before the letters, her family has gone to great lengths to show unification behind their daughter. Now that Casey’s REAL feelings about her family have been leaked to the world, will that unification still stand? Or will Casey’s family desert her under allegations of lies/truth?
Denise – Cobra and TJ have stepped away from the case for personal reasons…but just like us….I don’t think they’ll truly rest until justice is served. They may not be beating the pavement on Haleigh’s behalf right now but I have a feeling they still keep up with every bit of news on the case. They poured so much of themselves into this case….how could they possibly walk away completely?
Hyper – I don’t believe Casey was molested. She made that claim about Lee early on but I just didn’t buy it. I can’t say with 100% certainty it didn’t happen but since she put “The greatest Guy I know” or whatever under the pic of her and Lee, it just doesn’t seem like it happened. She seems very close to Lee and if molestation took place you would think she would distance herself from him a bit…not hang all over him…but JMO
Additionally, her habitual lying makes anything coming out of her mouth suspect.
She doesn’t come right out and accuse Geo…she says she remembers it like a dream….but thinks maybe it really happened. Whatever. Probably one of her sick fantasies.
Her family has definitely quieted down. After the alledged affair and the jailhouse letters I think her family is finding it more and more difficult to fight Casey’s battles and defend her. She full on attacks them in her letters to Robin. Talks a lot of smack. I would think they’d be just a wee bit peeved at all the nasty comments about them…some which are lies and some which are probably true.
Oh, on court day I think they’ll show up and support Casey. But I don’t think for a second they truly think she is innocent at this point. It is all for show. They KNOW the truth…I think they always did. They just thought they could poison the jury pool, convince people she didn’t do it, perhaps even cover for their obvious parenting issues….their dirty laundry was being aired by Casey and they were in damage control mode. I think they may have decided that is a lost cause. The ship isn’t sinking…IT SANK! Might be time to jump ship….like the rats they are.
I read here but don’t post much. This is just my opinion but: I think it is time that ALL info, that isn’t DIRECTLY from LE needs to not be discussed everywhere. It is only hurting the case and spreading lies and rumors. All of the posters that have inserted themselves and have contacted family members need to be charged by LE. Boo on twitter is calling Flo and leading her in what to ask on NG show. How stupid, and there are many other posters that do stupid stuff. Let LE do their jobs.
Boo is another Pirate wanna be. They’re just not happy unless people are trashing Ronald and his family.
I believe LE was pointing in a certain direction when they said that statement and it was at NG and AH not all blogs. But I do agree bloggers need to stay on the blogs and out of the mainstream case. I dont think they should write,send money or have contact with the people involved in the case. jmo
trialjunkie–I think you are right, but then I would go one step farther and prosecute Flo for getting on TV and takin the info she has learned from bloggers and stating them as truth. She caused quite the sensation with her many theories, when her only motivator (according to some family members) was greed. Its tragic!
Robin, Flo could not be where she is if NG did not give her a platform. HLN needs to be more careful of getting the facts instead of ratings. jmo
I don’t have any issues with people writing or sending money to people, it’s none of my business or anyone else’s. Spreading lies and posting vicious things to try and sway people is a different story.
I agree Tobias, then Art, Levi and Flo would all be off
You cant really blame Flo. The ones who allowed this are the ones who let her on a National TV program and pited two grannys against each other for ratings. jmo
JMO she wants something, and is hoping to gain from this horrible situation. I blame all of them for that. I wish TJ was back on, we can trust him.
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I think they should have listened better to the phone call Misty had with Nanny flo and the Aunt going to the doctors for her ct scans and the phscitrist(spell) wished I remembered which tape it was but Flo and the aunt are driving while they talk to Misty. jmo
She has said some terrible things imo, true or not, that she should not have said imo. She makes me sick.
Something tells me if news people had got wind of Tommy and Misty calling Granny Flo and she REFUSED to comment or give interviews there would be as many people blasting her for not telling what she has heard.
Not me.
Not me.
Chelsea defends Tom and Misty (and, she is a Croslin), Kayla Pannel defends her brother Joe Overstreet, and Lindsy defends her husband Tom (and, she is a Croslin).
These three: Chelsea, Kayla, and Lindsy say Flora is lieing, or lieing for the money, blah – de – blah, blah – blah.
Chelsea, Lindsy, and Kayla are biased and trying to deflect blame off the hubby/brother/brother-in-law/sister-in-law.
When her story is headlined in the Enquirer then I will believe she is doing this for money.
She is simply telling what she has heard. I would imagine Joe’s family has one story [Misty hit her in the head with a board] and Misty’s family has a story and Chelsea’s and Lyndsey’s — I don’t think she is making up these stories.
They’re all mad at grandma, cause she won’t keep it secret what she was told the brother/husband/brother-in-law/sister-in-law DID TO HALEIGH.
misty is the only innocent one out of this whole bunch!
I am in negotiations to purchase freemisty.com
If only the talking heads would of let her talk they might have been able to sort it out by now. Of course Tommy’s attorney is going to point the finger the other way, as is Joe’s family, Chelsea, etc. Granny would have been able to get to the bottom of it I would bet!
misty’s lawyer is worthless! Hes left her to twist in the wind at the hands of NG’s lynch mob! He should be DISBARRED for ineptitude!!
Tommy’s lawyer says ‘what kind of grandma would do this?’ — Well certainly NOT Cindy Anthony — and where did that get Cindy?
Kayla wants everyone to believe that her grandmother Flora is selfish; lieing about what Tom and Misty said – because she wants money.
Joe Overstreet’s sister Kayla is angry; retaliating by bashing her grandmother.
Kayla, Chelsea, and Lindsy – the conversations were taped, and the proof will eventually be heard by all.
I doubt Jane or Nancy paid Granny Flo — wish someone would ask. If she was making this stuff up why wouldn’t she have sold it to the Enquirer first and then went on Nancy and Jane?
If Granny Flo was telling the truth, she would have kept to one version, not the multiple she has told which got more outlandish as time wore on. And if she was motivated to tell the truth, maybe she would have picked a different venue to tell it, instead of Nancy Grace or HLN for that matter, who has become a sensationalized media outlet where ratings far outweigh the truth. JMO
Calm down, OJ, lol, your blood pressure is rising.
Ooh – grandma Hollar stepped out of line. She talked. Kayla, Chelsea, and Lindsy aren’t happy about that.
They’re concerned with defending their brother/hubby/borther-in-law/sister-in-law.
Grandma doesn’t care that you’re mad, kids. She’s telling the truth, so get over it.
Disrespectful brats, defending killers and bashing their grandmother.
Y I ever went to tht river I will never know. Waste of time, should of stayed home.
Sry
Robin, she’s telling the truth and the tapes will prove it to you. If she’d had an hour long conversation/interview with one of the talk-show hosts, the whole story no doubt would have come out at one time, instead of over two days.
She has not recanted what she initially said Tom and Misty told her in the calls.
pezzu, you’re right – NG confirmed on yesterday’s show that Flora Hollars was NOT paid.
robin said,in April 23rd, 2010 at 6:38 pm If Granny Flo was telling the truth, she would have kept to one version, not the multiple she has told which got more outlandish as time wore on. And if she was motivated to tell the truth, maybe she would have picked a different venue to tell it, instead of Nancy Grace or HLN for that matter, who has become a sensationalized media outlet where ratings far outweigh the truth. JMO
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Now how would Granny Flo know who is telling the truth? Do you? She has been told multiple versions — there is no way Tommy, Misty, Joe’s mother and sister all told FLO the same version and FLO made up the rest. She is telling what they have told her. She don’t know the truth.
Fora Hollars didn’t kill Haleigh – she is not the devious family member Joe Overstreet’s sister Kayla has portrayed her as.
Joe doesn’t talk – Kayla does. Timmy doesn’t talk – Chelsea does.
I agree, pezzu. She really didn’t have the opportunity to talk in-depth. Total time she talked was probably less than 5 minutes!
Robin, oh – so now you blame her for ‘choosing the wrong venue’?
NG got it wrong again..those are olld recordings
Jason–I respectfully disagree with you. And like you said the truth will come out when and if these tapes are released. I do not defend any of these people, but I will not label them murderers either, without some proof that they are indeed guilty. So sorry you got your ire up over nothing but my opinion, but this is a blog and I have a right to state that and you have a right to disagree, albeit without the namecalling and bratty comments that are such the norm for people who do not share the same theory. JMO
Flora IS an intelligent woman – she doesn’t need to be patronized as though she is a 2 year old.
I do not trust the 3 senseless enablers: Kayla, Lindsy, Chelsea,
jvm was 10 times better then NG tonight
What doesn’t make sense is Tommy’s lawyer said he called Flo on Thursday night — Misty called 15 minutes later and told her about the River. Supposedly she called LE but LE didn’t go to the River til Tuesday – after they talked to Tommy? And in the meantime Flo calls TN and her mother and they go out traipsin thru the evidence? wow
hollar out to Flo Rida..
Armando, you couldn’t have known. You did what you thought was right. I for one appreciate it. It was about Haleigh.
Robin, you don’t have to label your relatives murderers, as none of them have called you from jail and implicated themselves, or anyone else.
Flora has repeated what she was told, and she has stated her opinions about what she was told, and then some.
I thank her.
JVM usually is better than NG IMO.
pezzu–If anyone knew who was telling the truth then this case would not be in the mess it`s in today. But I was just sharing my opinion on Flo. I think none of us, included you, know the truth. I have respected everyone`s opinions and theories, and I am asking for the same courtesy. You do not have to agree with me at all, but don`t proclaim you know who tells the truth when obviously not even LE knows who is!
pezzu: “and they go out traipsin’ thru the evidence”: yeah, like uh – hopefully they called the police FIRST.
Can someone please clarify something for me? There has been so many things stated as fact that are not that it’s hard to tell the difference anymore.
Did Misty in fact call Ron at work and tell him Haleigh was missing or not? The way I understood it was that he didn’t know she was missing until he got home. Now I’m hearing another version. Now it’s driving me crazy. If he did know and still stopped at the store, it doesn’t make sense. If not, well that makes a big difference in my opinion. I truly believed Ron was sincere in his grief. I don’t want to believe he was involved in this and I didn’t believe it. I really hope someone can answer this.
Thank you
robin said,in April 23rd, 2010 at 7:18 pm pezzu–If anyone knew who was telling the truth then this case would not be in the mess it`s in today. But I was just sharing my opinion on Flo. I think none of us, included you, know the truth. I have respected everyone`s opinions and theories, and I am asking for the same courtesy. You do not have to agree with me at all, but don`t proclaim you know who tells the truth when obviously not even LE knows who is!
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I have no clue who is telling the truth. I simply said Flo is not making up stories because she told different versions — that is what she is being told. I suppose if LE knew the truth there would be charges by now. I was doing the same — sharing my opinion on Flo
Hi Stormgardner,
First I heard that version(Misty called Ron at work and told him Haleigh was missing). I’d ask for a source from whomever said it.
Jason said,in April 23rd, 2010 at 7:21 pm pezzu: “and they go out traipsin’ thru the evidence”: yeah, like uh – hopefully they called the police FIRST.
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If the police chased them out I doubt they called them — besides didn’t AS say they were out there all afternoon? — but if Flo told them what Misty said then Flo probably told them she called the police — like I said this does not make sense.
Thanks Jason, guess I’ll keep digging. I thought I knew up until the past couple of days. I’ve sure spent a lot of time on this as I know all of you have.
I thought they said at the beginning that Misty was standing in the doorway when Ron got home and had not called him or 911.
Can someone please ask this on the show? I wont be able to listen in live that day….
…to eliminate some theories i thought someone should ask if jr was up and awake when LE arrived possibly sinifying that they were never fully sleeping bcz she recently got home. Also could someone ask if the boy was out cold and slept through all that commotion , then that might signify to someone in LE that possible ‘dozing’ drugs were used and got out of hand withe girl bcz of the turner syndrome complications. Being awake will not completely show that they just got home but might help determine what was happening near that time. Was the kid looking like half asleep still…, wide awake… or complety ‘dozed’ through it all. Has LE ever commented on this? SEE ya Sunday retro-time !
stormgardner said,in April 23rd, 2010 at 7:32 pm Thanks Jason, guess I’ll keep digging
The interview with Greta at youtube by peinay shows Ronald saying ‘he came home and she was standing in the door’ and another interview he says ‘he came home and she opened the door’ so I would guess she did not call him.. I think I’ve seen one where Misty says when she seen the door open she ran back in the bedroom to get her phone to call Ronald and she seen Haleigh gone and started looking for her.
Stormgarder, I too, recall “Misty was standing in the doorway when Ron got home and had not called him or 911”. There’s another version in which she called him as he pulled up to the MH.
Yes, I believe that’s fairly new…I heard it a day or so ago. No sure about call to Ron about Haleigh missing earlier….
I emailed Jan to ask permission to transcribe the audios.
I’m callin in to ask Cobra about the whole “Jr with me till the day I die, even if he’s gotta go with me like that,” comment.
Was Ron implying that he’d kill Jr before loosing him? WHat did that second sentence mean if not that? CObra’s INTERP only please.
@SolvesCrimes Did Ron say what I think he said?
Chelsea revealed more in her phone call to NG last night than she did during her appearance the day before.
She said she wants to find Haleigh, but in her comments she condemns Flora, while at the same time accusing Joe, and suggesting Haleigh ingested pills [that are always lying around at Ron’s].
What Chelsea suggests is the same as what Flora has said she has heard – so, why did Chelsea call in to jump on Flora?
I can’t understand why anyone who wants to find Haleigh would object to Flora Hollars repeating what Tom, Misty, and others told her.
Could Chelsea have wanted credit for ‘finding’ Haleigh, and is angry that Flora Hollars told what she knew first?
Chelsea accused Joe, and talked of pills lieing around at the MH.
Flora says she was told Haleigh ingested pills; Joe killed her, etc.
Flora and Chelsea are saying the same thing, so what gives with Chelsea calling in all hostile towards Flora?
I suspect Chelsea wanted to be the one to tell what happened to Haleigh. I wish NG would have given her enough time to TELL MORE.
Hey Gang,haven’t been on much.have Grandson today,anything new that is helpful? lol
If she had Jason she wouldn’t have a (bombshell) for tomorrow nights show,LoL
If she had Jason she wouldn’t have a (bombshell) for tomorrow nights show,LoL
Just noticed,My 63 was gone,deleted cookies!lol
Hi CathyJo! You’re probably right about her cutting people off so she’ll have another ‘bombshell’ for the next show! Check out the ‘bomber jacket’ she’s wearing!: blog:http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/
The dysfunction in this family is quite clear in the statements Grandma Hollars makes. Her statements in regards to sexual abuse is almost incomprehensible. When it comes to the issue of sexual abuse it’s hard to process that in todays world in North America such a high level of ignorance still exist. I do not agree that Ronald has any culpability directly or indirectly in his daughters abduction and or murder. For me to find him guilty of that legally and or morally speaking I would have to have proof that he left Misty to care for his children with the knowledge that Haleigh would be harmed or quite likely could be. I don’t believe that Ronald was under that perception. I don’t believe Ronald by chose would leave his child in harms way. Whether he asked repeatedly for Misty to babysit or not for me makes no difference in terms of what would make him partially responsible. I don’t believe anything would of happened to Haleigh had Misty been left alone that night. Grandma Hollars blaming the tragedy on why Teresa did not take the kids is an excellent example of the reason why the Croslin family is as it is, no responsibility no accountability. All the way around this case is an absolute tragedy.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
My My My. It seems the circus has come back to town…. The Croslin/Hollow Clan in one ring, NG and Art in another, and PCSO in the third.
I keep wondering are we missing any?? Are there more to come??
Confusion and Mayham has been the title for the week, do we know more today than we knew last Sunday.. I think not.. I’m not sure what we knew last Sunday?? Is the case solved?? I couldn’t even begin to answer that question..
But, I do know, PCSO needs to put an FBI polygrapher on staff.. And everytime any of the people involved in this case directly opens their mouth and says anything.. it needs to be proven on a poly.. Is your name Misty Croslin Cummings? “I don’t know, I was sleeping”.
mlee, “I don’t know, I was sleeping” LOL
I think I am going to try to use that line.
From what I understood, Chelsea lit into Nanny Flo because it was Chelsea who called L.E. and they didn’t seem too enthused with what she was telling them, so Chelsea called Nanny Flo and told her – then Nanny Flo called the cops. But now Nanny Flo is embellishing and coming up with some really outlandish theories (to Chelsea).
Remember what Nanny Flo said about ‘one of them from down Florida’ had told her early on that Haleigh died of a drug overdose – that is Chelsea’s theory and she probably still lived in Florida, when that was told to her.
I don’t know about Misty, but Tommy was definately talkin to his Nanny because he wanted Lindsey to let her come and stay with her and the kids and Lindsey said no because she could get kicked out. So Tommy was trying to get her to clear it with her parents. Lindsey still didn’t want her to come because she would have to stay a whole month and wait on checks.
Chelsea seems to be on team Misty from the things she has said.
And I think Tommy has cut a deal. Probably a sweet one too.
Jason said,in April 23rd, 2010 at 8:32 pm Chelsea accused Joe, and talked of pills lieing around at the MH.
Flora says she was told Haleigh ingested pills; Joe killed her, etc.
Flora and Chelsea are saying the same thing, so what gives with Chelsea calling in all hostile towards Flora?
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Flora said a lot more than that.
I posted on the previous article, I am always a day late…
Chelsea: Anyone notice how she “voluntarily appears and speaks up” when it’s involving Tommy and Misty.. But in the same breath she always makes sure to finger Joe?
On Mizz Nancee SHE sure managed to say that “everyone” questioned by LE and everyone was interrogated, but then she quickly blurts “BUT NOT US” ???????????? That’s not true.
She did the same thing with the van: she once again stumbles over her words, making sure to say Timmy was sleeping(right next to her)imo, it sounds like a typical lie; as if she is convincing herself out loud. Then she says, so it had to be Joe.
I agree with Jason, something’s up with all that.
@ronfan and Jason..
Its not only Chelsey, who would never tell if hubby was home or not.. Look at Lindzy, she was absolutely sure, that Tommy was sleeping next to her also…
And now I have heard that Lindzy is saying, well I thought he was..??? Confusion for sure..
“The day Haleigh went missing, everyone was looking for her…she (Misty) called me later that night and said ‘Chelsea, please tell me you’re the one who put the scratch in my van.’ I started crying and told her there’s no way I put the scratch in her van,” said Chelsea.
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Reporter might have goofed it up, saying it was Misty calling Chelsea. I suspect it was actually Lindsy, not Misty, who called Chelsea about the van. Chelsea said, “she called me…”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc61AO1APc4
I don’t listen to your show I tried once and I simply can’t make it through it. I hope people have the courage to pop open the can of worms and take a good look at things, and how about a physiologist specializing in child sexual abuse and other abuses on the panel. Some people are asking how Misty could hide in the room. I’m asking how Tommy could leave her and two kids to be fed on by monster. Tommy is a man and could take this Joe character, I could take this Joe punk, certainly Tommy could. How does leaving Misty and the kids in that situation make him less culpable? There are far greater questions on the table here. What impact does it have in terms of physiologically when POLICE PUBLICLY SIDE WITH THE ABUSER!!! What impact does it have when one family member tries to speak and the rest all attack that one, what impact does it have on the person who is being attacked? Does it assist in silencing them, affect their ability to trust, get over self blame, is that the objective of those who are doing the attacking and if so why? Why is Chelsea flipping out as she is, is she not aware the calls are recorded. Why not thank the person coming forward? Why does this family do that, why did Grandma Hollars divert the answer about Ronald and go into blaming by asking the babysitting question has that behaviour been passed down and if so what is the impact of that? I could name a hundred more questions and if I was on the Jury I would not decide anything until they were all answered. This family needs to come forward with all of the truth stop the BS. Let Haleigh rest in peace with Justice and dignity and let her families have closure, cold hearted.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
I agree LE and other agents of our legal system do side with abusers more than victims. Criminals have rights in our society, and we dare not step on those, while innocent victims are given little to no consideration.
I saw a news report where the college student who hacked into Sarah P’s e-mail could get up to 50 years in prison for this offense. OK…I have no problem with putting criminals away for a good long time, but isn’t it strange that laws allow this non-violent individual to be sentenced to up to 50 years, when violent offenders and rapists are given far less time and even then are set free after having served a small portion of their sentence.
I say given the hackers probation and community service, or some other type of accountability; leave the prison cells available for violent offenders.
We need nationwide mandatory minimum sentencing for violent abusers, especially those who abuse children. There should be no maximum; judges should be in a position to put violent perps away for life. As it is now, sometimes all a judge can do is label the person vile and state how s/he would put them a way forever if the law would allow it.
The United States needs to do a better job of protecting the innocent, in particular our children! Crimes against children exist beyond our borders, of course, but America is leading the way in defense of criminals’ rights, with little regard for the rights of victims.
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