As Denny says “hmmmmm…..”

Chia-pets…that’s funny.

Wait, how about folks like ron and misty raising ‘weed’ chia pets….that’s my million dollar idea…off to the patent office.:)

rag weed dolls,lol

Hi Simon,,,do you have anymore vids of the croslns in jail???????????? I sure would like to see them to see what their temps are since Tommy was served Divorce papers….I thought you said you had more….can we hear them.?????

I think Ron is involved and has scared Misty into silence by convincing her that she will go down for murder with him if he is found out. Not sure how Tommy got roped in but perhaps it was Tommy’s “rope” that the child was tied to a brick with. Still think Ron is in control.

I think Simon is assuring us that no child ~not even Haleigh~ would be hurt by a Mob figure. It seems he has had some opportunity to speak with people “in the know” about such things.

Thank you Simon….

If you guys haven’t read Simon’s Mob Series, you really should! It’s really interesting and thought provoking.

The mob doesn’t have that kind of muscle anymore! Per Moe Green from The Godfather.

misty and casey should be put in the same jail and allowed to penpal, now them would be some interesting letters to see.

this is work at the hands of the trailer trash clan , not the mob.

Let them be put away for drugs, but we still need to know what happen to haleigh and the drug counts are not enough for me.

I dont see if how any of them get an extended stay in prison will break, like i mentioned before, they will not wanna be known in jail as child killers, they rather be known as drug dealers than that. thats the way i see it, but i hope le gets a move on.

Prisoners are already going to think they did it. They aint getting no slack for being quiet. Criminals can smell the guilt on other criminals.

Find a prsioner who had a child die at the hands of an unknown person while they were inside and see how friendly they are with the players in this case.

Tommy and ron are from the baddest dudes in a prison. They don’t have the size or skill to fight with these guys, trust me on that. ron talks a big game, bet at the jump, he will be pummeled. Prison justice is a bitch!!

misty will suffer the same fate. Doesn’t make it right to batter anyone in prison but it happens DAILY for a lot less than someone thinking you are a child killer whether adjudicated guilty or not. Mc, tc and rc have done nothing to come off as the victim of all of this.

They wont ever talk or if they do it will be hard to believe what they say, only way i will believe if one of them tells where haleigh is buried(if buried) any more confessions i will not believe without proof. They need to get the drug triald going also, they have them on video for gosh sakes, whats taking so long. tommy believes he will get 3 years becasue his dumb lawyer is going on tv and saying it, he should tell him the truth also.

There are folks in prison with no hope, short of an earthquake opening a hole in the jail they could escape from(like in Haiti), of getting out.

They have nothing to lose at all, nothing to lose by punishing another prisoner physically.

I bet they all realize that by now.

There only hope is to side with a gang that could protect them and even then, something bad is coming for them.

I’m sure that’s awful for the players parents to deal with, and that is extremely unfortunate, but their kids will pay somewhere along the line.

mc, tc, and rc had opportunity to call LE and tell them that someone was trying to get them involved with drug trafficking.

They knew, by mistys own words, they were being watched on the Haleigh case and went ahead and did it over and over again. They could have saved themselves a lifetime in prison and kept quiet about Haleigh and been free.

And I feel their families knew they were in trafficking game and tried to get them to stop(remember hank sr.s admonition of mistys involvement on a jail tape?)

I wonder when the family said ‘hey, don’t do it, they may be cops’ what their reaction was?

Ron is in GP?
Since when?

IMO, why should any of them tell what happened to HaLeigh? They are already looking at the rest of their lives behind bars for all intents and purposes. To add that she overdosed or Ron smacked her while arguing w/Misty and she later died isn’t going to help them get out of jail/prison in the least.

Personally, I would not be able to keep silent. I would have to confess but these people seem to have zero morals.

Simon, you indicated “The fact that some of them are behind bars, and others are awaiting the same fate, does give me some small modicum of hope for the Law Enforcement system. I have the greatest respect for the PCSO, and I certainly understand (well think I do) the strategy.” “OTHERS ARE AWAITING THE SAME FATE”. Who are you talking about? Timmy? Chelsea? Teresa? Ggma Sykes? Gma Hollars? Joe?

Will TN or GGMS crack seeing Hope serve 15 years and Ronald facing the rest of his life behind bars and losing JR for ever? Would they have been targeted for drugs and where they find themselves today if one of them would have spoke up and told the truth in the beginning? Ron is protecting someone and it is NOT Misty, Tommy or Timmy directly.. If not protecting himself, than it is TN or GGMS.
TN is protecting someone and it is NOT Misty, Tommy or Timmy directly. It is either to protect GGMS, Ron or herself. I believe Misty got involved in the cover up and may have drug her family in on it, but, I believe the truth lies with TN and GGMS..

From day one, I have felt TN and GGMS are the real KEY to cracking this case and there has been nothing to sway me away from that feeling to date..

I agree…prison is waaayy different then county lock-up. Once in prison he’ll be in with guys there for the long haul. ANother murder or assault charge means nothing to them.

Trailer trash….well, it’s a stero-type but it does describe a certain sub-set of people. Poor, genarlly white, often drug/alcohol use/abuse, DV or child abuse…etc Not necessarily lining ins a trailor but just happened to be the case with Ron.

Just to clarify:

4-14 grams you do 3 years min. mandatory

14-28 grams you do 15 years min. mandatory

28 grams to 30 kilograms you do 25 years min. mandatory.

You know the odd thing about those weights. A 5mg hydro contains 500 to 750mg of Tylenol and carries a stiffer sentence than a pure oxycodone or oxycontin that is probably at least 20mg. That’s a strange way for FL to count the weights.

Lori:

I agree. The guidelines are off as to actual content. There is a new proposition to change it. THe new guidelines would ONLY count actual drug content, not include fillers/etc.

Increases pill limits x 2-10 depending on which pills they are. Right now 56 pills (approx) to trafficking. New guidelines would be 2 Oxycontins per gram and up to 10 of there pills per gram.

New guideline would mean 112 Oxy for 28 grams and up to 200 other lesser quantity pills before trafficking.

It appauls me the time for these small crimes.An the fact that UC,agents.state was the main drug supplier.They did nothing but set them up,it wasnt a honest drug bust,with reall street drugs cleaned off the street.It was temptation to broke drug users,not what they were suppling their selves. I cant help it.I just dont agree with these charges,except the pills they sold that were theirs.THIS HELP CLEANE THE DRUG TRADE UP HOW? it was a tool for the Haliegh case. Its 15 months,before the bust no arrest/after the bust no arrest!! I see clearly what the Investigators,an state is doing here.An if these people had money,or paid Attornys,we would be haveing a different out come with thses players,an charges.

Im like the next person,i want Haliegh found/or whats left of her,an i want justice for her,but i want it done the way it lawfuly should be done,that could be my baby girl missing,or my daughter in jail so i want to not be bias in any way,an look at the whole picture,an what the investigators for Halieghs case has been doing all this time.

I also see where LE ,an many others failed Misty,an Ron for that matter.

When Misty called 911 for help,at the hood copping,when her purse was snatched.Why didnt LE place her in a mandotory in house rehab then,an drug sweep that apt complex.She would have gotten treatment,counleling,an may have told what ever it is everyone thinks she knows.

Instead they would rather wait,an make sure she spends many yrs,an ruins any chance of any kind of normal life.Could it be she just may not know what really happened.So LE wont believe that,an now shes just making stuff up,but she really doesnt know,is only guessing.

Ron,surly LE saw at a young age he had a drug problen,see record.Yet they never put him anywgere,or forced him to go to any treatment program.Oh i know all they know how to do is arrest,an let the Judge go from there.

He!! for that matter,all the prier parent of Ron,Misty,an Crystal had used,or sold dope,an the their children all were users.Then we Have Haliegh,an Butterbean,another geniration who may have followed in their footsteps. A older Haliegh could have been a Misty,when she grew up around 2 parents,an their friends of users.ITS SAD,AN HAPPENING ALL OVER THIS WORLD

No charges after 15 months,no Haliegh.BUT EVERYONE SAYS WHY WONT THEY TELL WHAT THEY KNOW,COULD IT BE THEY JUST DONT KNOW.

I think the PCSD just didnt know how to investigate this crime,an im sure they tried.But it seems theres been many bungles,i even see some myself.

With all those woods around that trailor,i dont see how they can rule out a stranger.Or even family SO.To me MG,has acted cold as ice,im still not ruling out that she could still know where Haliegh is.

If they show bones,her dress,or Gold neclace,then ill know thats her,if DNA MATCHES.but so far that hasnt happened.I really dont put it past the 2 M&T to have just made the story up, from all the rumors they heard.

However for Tom to say he was there,an saw Joe.Then that eye whitness.An sherriffs let up know point blank,his words((Joe has lawyered up,meaning he could only go so far)),in questioning him,cant force a LDT (which i dont trust anyway)But Hardy doesnt have access to Joe like he does Misty,an Tommy,Or Ron for that matter.

I want who ever harmed Haliegh to pay dearly,but i would truly hate to be a part of sending someone away,that there just isnt proof enough for me to belive what LE /media is trying to feed me.I pray they charge,or get the right person.

It has been done before ,a stranger abducting a child right from under familys that was sleeping.One 1o feet from parent,leaving no forced entry, DNA,or,trail behind.The child just vanished,untill the body was found,some have never been found.

Misty on 011 Call sounded,in shock to me,like duh!!! An im sure Ronald being up set,an angry.May have pushed her around some,before the call,it didnt sound off to me,to many people read to much into those calls,every one acts different in a crises,talk different-just simple respond different,an we say we would do this,or that.But we wernt a 17 yr old girl,an wouldnt have a dominite lover over us,with the Child missing to boot.We just dont know how we would act,the mind does funny tings under stress.

If LE proves Misty ,or Ron,or any of the family did this,ok im with everyone.Just being a rough bunch,doesnt make them killers.I could go with a young woman giving to much tylonol,(childrens)or some form of cold meds that make a child sleep,an her dieing from respitory failure.

My son when young drank pedicare,my daughter didnt close the lid tight,when she gave her child a dose.He drank it an come close to dieing/a complete accident.They told me the base in the cold meds for children,have adverse reaction when given to much,it reacts like someone taking to much coke.Stange but a DR told me this in the hospital. Heart fails,shuts respitory system down.

But to give a child a pill thats more valuable to a doper,tthan their own moma,i dont see it,Haliegh could have injested one,thinking candy spit some out,an it still was enough with her astma to kill her.

They could have fought over something,Haliegh getting into the mix,was stuck,in the head,she later went to sleep an died,but for Misty to have beat her to death,an shes a known babysitter,with no complaints ,im noT buying it.

Could She have woke to one of those stoned men raping Haliegh maybe,an Haliegh had a astma attack,died an they paniced,but i dont see her covering that either.

–but im still leaning on her being asleep,an someone slipped Haliegh out to mess with her/she was a little girl wasnt she,an then dumped her body.That Putnam county,is a mass of wooded areas,im sure all hasnt been searched,an a very large river,with many dumping sites. JUST MY THOUGHTS THIS MORNING,ILL PROBABLY CHANGE THEM TOMORROW LOL

On the charges, I think you said it, they stung poor srug users. They were dealin prior to the sting.

If LE got a call that said ‘hey, joe blow is dealin, I’ve seen it and bought from him. LE would have to act on that tip and try and catch the guy dirty. I think that means they had to try and bust dealers they got a tip on. Somebody that knew of ron and company tipped them off and low and behold they were interested in trafficking for the money and the pill profits.

As far as the car jacking deal, do you think misty would have gone to a rehab? I can’t imagine that a court would have jurisdiction over her just because they think she was buying weed or something. As you see on the show COPS officers will tell a perp or a victim that was in a bad spot to begin with by looking for drugs, they should get help. But they can’t make them. She could have tried on her own to get in a program.

Yes thers help,but im speaking of when these people were minors.Parents/pr schools/or state didnt care to help.

DFS had been to Ron/Crystals/Tommys homes,about things to do with calls made about the children,an drg use/violence,being i the home.Not one thing was done.They walk away not removing children.An cry foul,were understaffed,if a child dies in a home they have been to.

Crystal faild,an refused manditory drug testing .after Ron jr was placed back in her car.Several things were brought out in to the opwn about Crystals little girl being around drug use/riding in a car,with a mother high.But the state let those children stay there,an offered her help.

OJ did bring up something interesting on the former thread.About someone watching,an taking Haliegh,someone who may have cared.

Her nebulizer being gone,could have been because the person who took her cared about her,an her having her treatments.

Scools didnt keep up with Crystals drop out,or Mistys,never reporting it.

Yes i see where many failed Haliegh,an the other children as well.

Then we have the drug users/an abusers,as well.
Just because Misty was her care taker,when she went missing,isnt proof she murdered her.

Hao many babies have been taken/no forced entry,no trail.With the parents sleeping in the home the child was sleeping at.Ron had just started on the night shift that week.An a perv,will watch a house,if he sees something he wants,like a thief,untill the time is right for the taking.

15 MONTHS,before,an after the drug bust.An still no Haliegh,or no proof.Im beginning to wonder myself.She was ever accused of harming any children she babysat for,all even The bio mom,said Haliegh,an JR loved Misty,an she seemed to love them.I dont see her as a murderer,maybe,a accident ,an paniced cover.Or maybe she was just alseep,an another child was snatched.

Ithink Hardy has tried hard to solve this case.as others have,i just think they have missed the fact,theres pleant off woods,an easy escape in that dark area they live at.Im wating for proof,That Haliegh isnt with the living anymore,an pray the true criminal get arrested,an pays the price,if she was indeed murdered. MOP,no debate needed,we all have OP,im rolling this way today lol.Been ip all night thinking about it.

Is the purpose of the pre-trial hearing to bring before the judge to discuss the remaining motions before the actual trial date is set?

For instance if Rons defense team accepted a plea deal wouldn’t this be recorded and a sentencing date be scheduled?

Wonder if we could be hearing of a plea deal for Tommy too this Thursday?

If they prove any of the three in jail,or Joe harmed,that beautiful little child,then let the courts have at it.But i want some proof,more than 2 cinder blocks,that could be used for many things at a river.It has been mentioned that blocking doors is tommys MO when thieving,an Johnny Sheffields when working on the farm,so who knows.I just want this to come to a close,an let the familys finish grieving.A have some form of ceramony for Precious Haliegh.

I have been on strong pain meds for a while,DR ordered,for a 3 serious issues with pain,an my health.An i never murdered mine,abused them,or allowed anyone else.However sleeping deeply is a side effect from them.I would fight to my death for my children,or grands.An call it out,or step in if i saw anyone harming a child.

I lived through a 2 yr old getting murdered my sister grand baby,my heart strings.I know how people gossip, add to things,an they over looked the true murderer in our babies case for over 2 yrs.We kept trying to tell them,they kept looking at us.but in the end our little loved one got justice,as much as a court can do.it was all along the one we thought it was.Which was not family.

So while the Law,was after one of ours,we were after the true killer,an got that person,our PI did,an our family solved the case.So i look past the bull,an wait.For justice to come for Haliegh!!!

I truly believe Caylee was murdered by Casey

But i havent began to believe Mistys a murderer yet.Could always be wrong,but ill wait an see.

I do know its way over due for this case to be solved.But later is,better than never.

Pardon my typos,im typing in the darker,area,on my couch,an my eyes arnt the greatest anyway..

I’m truly sorry for your loss. I can’t imagine what that must feel like.

You come from a different perspective than I do for sure. Either way, we want the perp caught, tried and convicted then punished. I want the trial to be fair, why not. Putting someone in jail that is absolutely not guilty doesn’t respect Haleigh, it disrespects her.

I’m anxious to see all the evidence not just the bg and ah’s evidence they show nightly. The real stuff. If it doesn’t rise to beyond a reasonable doubt, I would have no problem saying it.

If they were guilty and said so after being tried and found innocent because the investigation was flawed, I’d still have to accept that the system failed. That’s not likely to happen but you know what I mean.

I still think it was a sex offence against a little girl,either a outsider,or one of the family men.But thats just me,because of so many pedifiles running lose,an so many RSO,packed into these small towns.Heck it could be a old dirty minded neighbor.But who ever it was must have known the layout of that moble home,from before,or after Ron moved there.An it just could be the ones LE have been looking at. Who knows this is all crazy,I feel for the investigators,i wouldnt want to be them.It seems most have their mind up,from what im reading,just dont know how it played out.

MISTY MADE HER “OWN” BED…nobody forced Misty to sell drugs..she looked really comfy and cocky at the very least smokin away in the front seat of the car. I don’t care how they find justice for Haleigh as long as it happens. Nobody forced Misty to buy the drugs when her purse was stolen..”Maybe she didn’t know what happened to Haleigh”??
Then why does she fail all polys and why does her story change like the wind?
Le failed Misty? Why no put her in drug rehab? Why not babysit her? Do you realize how many hundreds of thousands of drug addicts there are in in the united states..It’s not Le’s responsibility to PLUCK snotty nosed teens off the streets and put then in rehab!
Misty is getting her REHAB IN JAIL…where she belongs.
Maybe now THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT!

Take care.

Karma.

Just ask simpson.

JABA – Exactly!!! You get what you deserve..nothing more, nothing less!

clean up the streets..YES…BABYSIT DRUGGIES NO!

My comment is about all the youth in America today,not just Misty.Its a normal thing to day to look away,hey my neighbors kids getting out there,better lock my door.Instead of taking a few min.of time,maybe to talk to them,look for somewhere they may can get help.You have many decendents yet to come,mine how you Judge another,mans child,you may just be faced one day,with the same delima.

How may times has misty, at 16, bought cigarettes underage? How many bags of weed has she bought? How many pills has she bought?
How many times has she drank underage?
How did she drop out of school before the leagl age to do so?

She’s not innocent overall. We know that.

Now, had her parents been able to stop her and show her role model behavior that didn’t have drugs and alcohol, she may have been better off. What is done is done though. I bet hank and lisa feel bad enough that they’ve had it rough because of their demons and their kids didn’t fair any better. That has to be painful and other than a hank sr sunglass joke, I’m not aching to kick them anymore. They’ve pretty much tapped out on their current lives. If they move forward and do ok, I’m honestly happy for that.

Still in all, the law is the law. I’ve paid for times I’ve broken the law and much like getting caught for speeding isn’t the first time you’ve sped.

The punishment fits the crime and if not cruel and unusual, held up by courts, is the price they all pay for their offenses against society.

Do I care if misty or ron drink or smoke pot? No. They don’t drive and hit me or anyone else and they don’t steal from my back porch to pay for it, I don’t care. Have fun.

When you add kids you have a duty to society not to harm them in a manner that we deem inappropriate. You can punch a kid in the face, but you can swat their behind. We have to have rules or we really have a problem. You let a ron type beat on a kid and that kid more than likely will beat on someone down the line. Who knows, maybe the kid gets to a point where he or she commits suicide or kills the offender in their sleep. rons parenting and the croslin parenting model was flawed beyond belief.

Ca @6:46

Ouch!! I felt that over here. 🙂 its true, though.

jaba, that is part of the problem she is NOT a mother. Rather shoved in to the job. So jan57 dont compare her to REAL mothers

It would be MY responsibility Jan57 if it were one of my kid was on drugs..NOT LE’s..TO GET our kids into rehab. It’s not my child and that’s irrelevant. We are talking about MIsty croslin so let’s stick to the facts here ok and you can LEAVE MY KIDS OUT OF THIS MESS thank you very much. I also might add that it is HIGHLY likely that Misty either killed haleigh or at the very least knows what happened to her.
I am not going get into this with you and how you have expanded this conversation way bigger then I intend to spend my time on. My opinion is Misty is where she belongs to be..her choice PERIOD! No body will change my opinion on that.

jaba, ya well thats not the way it was put and you know it 🙂 but nice try lol

Beast,

Don’t overestimate me, I know very little.:)

What kind of support system would misty have had if she did do 6 month in a rehab? Her family? Ron? White boy greg? Nay nay? It would have been tough.

Inside she will learn all about the right and wrong of prison and beyond. She can chose to get an education, be a model prisoner, get involved in prison programs that will teach her life skills, or, she can be the tough girl who gives the guards trouble nad hardens into a 40 year old parolee that reoffends in 5 minutes. Its up to her. She has a long, structured program to take her through the rest of her teen years through middle age. Then she’ll have about 40 years of life left to be a good girl and use what she has learned.

I do admit that 25 minimum sound harsh, but, if the penalty is what is based on the states need to curb a problem, then so be it. I wouldn’t sell dope in satsuma if I lived there.I’m sure other kids will see the outcome and stay away from it.

HALF HOUR UNTIL D.P HEARING ON KILLER ANTHONY..

WFTV covers it as well as COURT T.V…

Something that has always bugged me and as far as I know never been answered….Why have first Misty’s parents not been charged with child abuse for allowing their 15 year old daughter to be living with a 20-something year old man? And from listening to the tapes even before that they let her live with some other guy that beat her? Next why was Ron never charged with statutory rape not only of Misty but of Crystal and the other baby mama?

I don’t think that baez will win having them take the dp off the table. He’s going to argue gender or bad faith, yadda, yadda. Caylee was murdered, premediated, in a gruesome way and buried in a bag. That case deserves a death in return. This child killing has to stop. Are you kidding me? Another parent accused of overpowering a two year old and ending her life. Amazingly sick.

She’ll bury her parents at the sentencing phase of that one to try and save her life. It will be ugly.

There is video of Nay Nay talking about how Misty thought she might be pregnant.

lol@jaba

If nay nay says misty says it, its subject to the hearsay rule I believe. They may investigate while misty was a minor but if she said no, I don’t think they could do anything. She could say it wasn’t rons, it was some other juveniles.

These morons have told so many different stories, who would believe any new information that they spout. There has to be real “hard evidence” to back up a new version of “how it went down”.

Let’s just give the whole clan the DP and save all of the taxpayers some money. It’s not like these “critters” offer any value to society.

ANON…add yourself to the list

Depends on what time of day or who the bloggers are at the time. lol

Agreed Shockwave,

Buddy,
That’s why I suggested life training classes, drug rehab and vocational rehab. It’s not like she learned anything from her prior offenses. Knowledge doesn’t come from thin air. It sure doesn’t come from imprisonment either. It is obvious Hope knew little other than the life of crime. Most prisoners come out of prison as more hardened criminals.

Gotta go folks. Still good to hear everyones opinions.

LadySadie said,in May 11th, 2010 at 7:55 am Something that has always bugged me and as far as I know never been answered….Why have first Misty’s parents not been charged with child abuse for allowing their 15 year old daughter to be living with a 20-something year old man? And from listening to the tapes even before that they let her live with some other guy that beat her? Next why was Ron never charged with statutory rape not only of Misty but of Crystal and the other baby mama?
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Just a couple things. Misty wasn’t 15, and Ron did not break the law by being with Crystal and Amber.

Curious,

So misty wasn’t 15, she was 16. Is that of legal age in florida to be with a 20 somethin year old guy?

794.05 Unlawful sexual activity with certain minors.–

(1) A person 24 years of age or older who engages in sexual activity with a person 16 or 17 years of age commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. As used in this section, “sexual activity” means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another
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Crystal, Amber and Misty were all under the age of 17, Ron is 27 now so at least with Amber and Misty he committed a felony.

Good Morning everyone,
It is my opinion that the 5 that are behind bars now for trafficing drugs are where they should be and it is a place that has allowed them to clean out there systems and minds and face reality.
The drug charges and sting had a purpose and it was not to take out Ron and Mistys suppliers (the real dealers) but to give LE an edge over these individuals to solve the case of HaLeighs abduction.
If we are to believe what we have seen and heard from LE; they have used this leverage over them and have moved forward in the abduction case. Now does this mean they are guilty or have been finally ruled out I have no idea, but, feel that SH’s mention of other poi and the fact that they believe HaLeigh is no longer alive suggests they know a he!! of alot more than we do.
I know we are all eager for this to end and for justic to be served, but, the wait should not cause personal attacks or short fuses with persons who have nothing to gain or lose in this and are just following the case.
I hate to see everyone disagreeing over opinions that have no evidence or truth at this time to support and since we all can agree we have been given more stories and lies than facts and truths who can honestly say what really happened or did not happen. JMO

I have to say I agree with Jan57 about what may have happened to little Haleigh. I think its very sad to keep calling and poking fun at Misty and her family and Ron and hes. I defo don’t think Misty harmed Haleigh and believe it was a stranger that got in and took her.
can I please ask Jan who she is meaning when she says MG knows more and is as cold as ice

ron, a felony? The hell you say. 🙂

marie griffis i assume Carol!

I know a person who had 16 dui’s and never spent a day!

WhyLie…I think Buddy is talking about Misty. Ron WAS over age to be with Misty and could have (and should have been) charged with statutory rape.

JB, I was addressing LadySadie’s comment about Crystal and Amber but it is correct that Ron was older then the law allows as far as Misty is concerned BUT unless Misty admitted they had sex and her parents filed a complaint there is no way LE could charge him.

he only wanted to be heard SAYING he wanted rehab for a lighter sentence,they ain’t that dumb!

Any reason why Hank and Lisa Croslin weren’t charged with child neglect in regards to Misty?

Looks like Tommy was served divorce papers and has responded.

2010-05-10 005.RTN OF SVC ON HANK CROSLIN SVD 05/03/10 DUE 05/23/10

2010-05-10 DEFAULT AVAIL 05/28/10

2010-05-10 006.RESPONSE TO SUMMONS : HANK CROSLIN

did not mean to scream atcha,lol so sorry! I forget my caps constantly!

If i were Lindsey,id have tried saying,if you tell the truth i won’t lleave ya! atleast try something! he prolly wouldn’t but still!

jaba said,in May 11th, 2010 at 11:00 am ron, a felony? The hell you say.
rofl!

OMG,His temper alone makes me wanna be a fly for just 5 seconds WhyLie! just 5??? heck,I’ll take 2?? LoL

Have you ever seen a dog that was mistreated? They learn to be just as mean as they were treated. Misty is living the only life she learned to live. She deserves a fair shake in life just like anyone else posting here does. If she can’t learn to change, and she breaks the law again, then throw the book at her. At this point, she can be rehabilitated or thrown into a prison cell where she will learn nothing and be nothing when she gets out. I’m a firm believer in the fact that people can change when they are taught a better way of living. This is not about whether or not you grew up in a trailer. This is about parenting, and we can all agree that Misty didn’t have great parents.

even if he’s innocent of Haleigh,that man could care less about his own kids but HEY!She’d better be good to his dog!
awwww now he will worry over his dog,I love dog’s too,Miss Kitty was my baby too (rat terrier) but My daughter and Gson came first,Kitty could live on scraps,,lol

Shockwave,I know……i do feel bad but if they’d tell the truth i’d have compassion atleast!
I felt so sorry for her in the ld video,she said “my lifes been hell and its not gonna get any better doesn’t look like”

I love this line in an article at WFTV:

“The defense’s position is that Casey should not be put to death because prosecutors cannot prove she killed her daughter in a cold, calculated and premeditated manner. However, prosecutors argue Caylee Anthony’s killer had to use physical force or chemicals to subdue the child, because otherwise she would have been able to remove the three pieces of duct tape found covering her nose and mouth.”

WHAT? The defense says the prosecution can’t prove Casey killed her daughter in a cold, calculated and premeditated manner? Uh, so does this mean the DUHfence is finally admitting that Casey DID kill Caylee…albeit not in a “cold, calculated and premeditated manner”? And I hate to tell them but there is PLENTY of evidence of premeditation! And what happened to all their “PROOF” that Casey was innocent? Weren’t they going to WOW us all with this proof some time back? That was right after their attempt to get everyone to believe in Zanny the Nanny, the tooth fairy, the fairy god mother and Santa Clause failed and right before they went for Kronk’s jugglar with the duct taped ex-wife! LOL

These losers could defend someone for a parking ticket much less defend a death penalty case. They were in court today whinning that the only reason the death penalty was on the table was because the prosecution wanted to bankrupt the DUHfense (weren’t they all pro bono anyway? LMAO)….and that the death penalty is gender biased! ROFLMAO….Uh, if it had been Caylee’s daddy who killed her, dumped her out like yesterday’s garbage and then when slithering on a stripper pole, he’d be facing the DP too! is that REALLY the best Lying Lyon can come up with? OMG! No wonder Casey was sobbing in court. Her DUHfense SUCKS! LMAO

In the tapes you can hear Misty saying all the things she should have done instead of what she did. This is proof she made choices and has accepted the facts that she did what she darned well wanted until she was caught.
She acknowledges that she should have listened to her parents and stayed with them and not Ron. She says she will now get her GED and should have before. She says she should not have been acting so grown up and running with the wrong crowd.
ITS ALL HINDSIGHT NOW THAT SHE IS IN TROUBLE.
She knew what she should have been doing but didnt do it. She made all the wrong choices of her own free will. jmo

Sorry,i need “duck tape” for my caps again!

her eyes look evil in this pic,
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/

imo SINdy a needs to be with her too!

why it’s best not to even get me on the subject,I can’t breathe just thinking about the crap they did to Caylee and her memory!

and it’s not like anybody can ever change it,I know its impossible but if Caylee had never been found but showed up alive one day,what would she think……….heres her damn granny throwing out letters and cards people sent her………thats how i know c and g knew she wasn’t among the living,they’d have kept those to show her when she was found!

saying a damn dead body smelled like pizza,yet ordering pizza after pizza to eat! MY GOD THATS SICK!

Who here will agree with me about Casey Anthony. I’m not a fry Casey person because I believe in innocent till totally proven guilty. I think someone else is involved in Caylees death and I just cant shake that feeling Casey isn’t as much to blame as the media want to keep telling us.
There is something strange about the meter man who claims to have found Kaylee’s remains. His boss even lived on the same street as the Anthony family. Whats all the more scary is the fact he abused his former wife,and tied her up with duct tape.
He kept finding himself in that area to much for my liking. Could it not be he had been in the area before Caylee went missing and was maybe watching from a distance the family’s comings and goings. Especially Caylee and Casey’s ??

yea,4 ppl are involved,Sindy,george,lee,casey…imo

I hope people don’t base their opinion on Misty solely on the results of these lie detector tests. Please google lie detector tests and see how totally unreliable they are.
I posted an articLe taken from google on an earlier thread a few days back and I was incredulous the information I read.I do have a question..Why do we always hear being someone failing one but basically never hear about someone passing one? We don’t know (or I don’t) who has actually took one in this case besides Misty, Ron, Tommy, and maybe Joe (which couLd be rumor). I have to wonder why Misty’s results are broadcast but yet no one else’s is. Ron claimed he passed, but has that ever been verified? You see there is so much confusion even in this one aspect of the case, and I believe that if LE is basing their whole investigation and the suspects on these tests, then this case will eventually turn cold and the perpertrator will never face justice. But then that’s okay according to some because the irony of it all is Ron, Misty, and Tommy will spend quite a lengthy sentence for selling some pills. Just tell me how this spells justice for Haleigh? Justice for Haleigh only will come when someone is charged with this crime and sentenced accordingly.

YET I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION BUT I WILL NEVER BUY INTO IT,THEY ALL KNEW CASEY DID IT AND THEY’LL FRY ANYONE ELSES CHILD,EVEN jESSIES MOMS CHILD,FOR IT AS LONG AS ITS NOT CASEY!

I would agree Robin,dunno why they don’t tell rons results,or even mention it,all i know is they are lying and they had custoidy so……….one day i believe them,next i don’t,nesxt i kinda do,next i kinda don’t,lol its a hard one! but if theyd tell the truth it might be different!

I know that i have judged them by actions but if they’d tell the truth we might see it different!

With 2 days until they go to court you would think something is about to break? Tommy has to be under tremendous pressure. Court, failing the LDT, and now Lindsy is divorcing him and he wont be seing the kids for a long time. And Misty should be feeling guilt if she is causing Tommy to lose his wife and kids over something she knows about but wont say.jmo

I hold both accountable.because cindy was an enabler in the worst way,she knew but turned a blind eye! if she’d punished casey when she did wrong……..things would be diff but sometimes i hold cindy more accountable!

casey was used to being right and getting what she wanted!

I can’t wait Tobias,BOMBSHELL!

I see the board bullies have pushed jan57 off the board..thats a shame,
shes a voice of reason!

CathyJo63 said,in May 11th, 2010 at 12:23 pm I know that i have judged them by actions but if they’d tell the truth we might see it different!
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The truth would of been nice from day one from everyone (both sides) in HaLeigh’s family and Misty.
I have held to the opinion that Misty did not and still does not know what happened to HaLeigh, but, did and does have a idea who did take HaLeigh from her bed.
It is also my opinion that Misty has not been nor will she be the key to solving the case.

Simon ~ great post. on the subject of the mob, i completely agree with you. my great-grandfather was in with al capone, back in the day, and i have been studying the mob with great interest for many, many years.
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people say what they will about the mob “families”, however, they went by a very specific code. it was a code of respect. “no women, no children”…ever!

they protected their own, if one in the family was “preyed upon”, (for lack of a better phrase), it was considered that the entire family was preyed upon. an eye for an eye, basically.

recently the gambino crime family has been in the news, as they have greatly deviated from the original “code” of mafia. there have been many charges against them due to the sale and distribution of hard drugs, and for prostitution. back in the day, the agreement within all of the families, was never to involve themselves in either. the mob made its way, in the beginning, with gambling and liquor. the prohibition era was the ticket, as the mob controlled the distribution of liquor to all of the speakeasys.

the mob doesn’t carry the weight that it once did across the united states. with the conviction of mob boss john gotti,and the subsequent sweep across the boards by the fbi, the mob gradually all but died out, as far as a power to be reckoned with.

i have to say though, unlike the street gangs that reign terror down on everyone, the mafia operated with a specific agenda, within their own. and simon is quite right, a child would have never gone this way under their watchful eye.

exactly right TexMom!

she wasn’t saying Beasts kids were snotty nosed,i think she was saying,maybe because some kids have less than others they’re not cared about! sorta! for lack of not knowing how to say it!

re: casry anthony

i watched the news coverage yesterday, and was sickened by the image of her CRYING there at the defense table, next to baez. i truly do not recall tears from her, throughout this long ordeal. how disgusting to watch the only real tears i’ve ever seen her cry, and she was crying for herself! crying because the judge was not buying that the prosecution was biased to her, regarding the death penalty, since she is a woman…

I didn’t realize that Donna B had gone for a bond reduction and it was denied.

Bingo Tough…………..exactly right!
All her tears are for her!
They said she whispered to SINdy “Happy Mothers Day,I love You”
shesssssssssh!

cathyjo ~ right? oh brother… 😉

I coulda kissed that ole lady!

never mind if its true or not but if i related my Grandbabys decomp to pizzaa,I am sorry but i couldn’t even say the dang word ever again,they’d sit and eat them,even LP said he got mad when Lee told him he ordered them but then he found out the people outside their dang house ordered them,he said he told Lee,just wait till you bite into stricnine or whatever its called,lol

and believe me i still don’t condone casey,never will but just sayin,i see what i see!

when women don’t want to keep their kids theres a reason! somewhere!

bbl,sorry guys gotta run,lol

CathyJo63 said,in May 11th, 2010 at 12:54 pm Beast said,in May 11th, 2010 at 6:52 am Jan57

One of My snotty nose kids???????
Watch it lady dont make this personal you will regret it

Hm,I see what you mean now OJ,But i don’t think Jan would let that do it,lol

Thats a personal attack tho,i agree!
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WRONG!! c-a originaly made the
snotty nose” remake at 6:07..
jan57 responded to c-a about the
snot nose” at 6:40..
then “beast” at 6:52 attacked jan57 for calling her kid “snot nose”, which she did not!
So..either ‘beast’ is terribly confused or ‘beast’ and c-a are the same person.

OJ – Been reading here for years but not posting. Beast and C~A are bloggers from the past….husband and wife from what I remember. Have a lot of kids and live in Canada if I remember correctly. Seems like they got banned from here a long time ago…there were a bunch of people that left….some uproar about someone named Pickles and someone named PaPa….it was ugly to watch. I guess Simon and Jan let them come back. I’ve never blogged with them but I’m a little gunshy of them because I watched the ugliness from a long time ago. Just be careful is all I can say. I’m in NO way saying they are bad folks. Could be the nicest couple you’d ever meet. IDK. Just watched a lot of ugliness in the past is all I’m saying.

vaquera…Casey was an adult but still living with her folks, didn’t have a job once Caylee was born, and certainly didn’t have control of her life. Cindy did. I’m not excusing Casey by ANY stretch of the imagination. But if you sent a team of psychologist and psychiatrists into study this family they would probably come up with some new psychology terms because these people take dysfuntional to a whole new level. Cindy is a control freak. Made her husband quit the job he loved, kept Casey under her thumb, ran everyone’s life, but TOTALLY overlooked Casey’s behaviors such as the lying, drug use, wanting to give Caylee up for adoption, her stealing, etc. There were NEVER consequences for her behaviors and I truly believe that Casey thought the WORLD would belive her lies because by all appearances her family always did. Now, while they certainly didn’t believe her lies all the time, there were never consequences for the lies and behaviors. Casey truly thought LE would buy her lie about the nanny, her job, everything. Afterall, it had always been so easy to get away with it with Cindy and Geo. Is Casey a monster? Yes she is! But she learned from the best IMVHO. Cindy!

interesting..thanks

The weak minded never fight back or run.

texasmommy39 said,
in May 11th, 2010 at 1:48 pm

Casey could of and might of done those things Vaquera if she had not had Cindy in the picture.
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maybe, maybe not. 😉

JB said,
in May 11th, 2010 at 1:57 pm

vaquera…Casey was an adult but still living with her folks, didn’t have a job once Caylee was born, and certainly didn’t have control of her life. Cindy did. I’m not excusing Casey by ANY stretch of the imagination. But if you sent a team of psychologist and psychiatrists into study this family they would probably come up with some new psychology terms because these people take dysfuntional to a whole new level. Cindy is a control freak. Made her husband quit the job he loved, kept Casey under her thumb, ran everyone’s life, but TOTALLY overlooked Casey’s behaviors such as the lying, drug use, wanting to give Caylee up for adoption, her stealing, etc. There were NEVER consequences for her behaviors and I truly believe that Casey thought the WORLD would belive her lies because by all appearances her family always did. Now, while they certainly didn’t believe her lies all the time, there were never consequences for the lies and behaviors. Casey truly thought LE would buy her lie about the nanny, her job, everything. Afterall, it had always been so easy to get away with it with Cindy and Geo. Is Casey a monster? Yes she is! But she learned from the best IMVHO. Cindy!
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I have no doubt Cindy was and still is a major control freak but Casey did have a good job that she quit when she got pregnant and could have just taken maternity leave.If her mother was so controlling why didn’t she move out? that is what most people would do.. after you reach a certain point in life it’s your life to live how you want or not want to live it..You can either be like your monsther(lol,spelled mother wrong thinking monster/mother so I will leave it) or you can do whatever to change it the situation..

catch ya’ll later..work awaits. 🙂

Ohhh OJ,I see what ya mean! thats still not very nice!either way!

Right JB,they said you will regret it,thats a threat to me to do physical harm!

Tommy does have other charges. The ones that happened before his arrest have been dropped to misdemeanors. His new charges for stealing from the neighbors, he said in a jail house video, he plans to take that to trial because other adults were living in the home as well and had just as much opportunity to do the deed as he did.

Years ago, I invested a lot of time and energy in the Ramsey case and I really thought there would be some resolution but it is the ultimate poster case for disappointment. This case has only been ongoing for right over a year. JonBenet died in 96 and I was still sitting at my keyboard – daily – in 2002. And then I stopped and vowed never again to become so attached.

When it comes to children we become very passionate for justice. It’s the empath coming out in all of us who seek righteousness. Nothing wrong with it.

Random, My thoughts too on Casey, she is gone more or less. To me she should have asked for the death penilty rather than live in PC in prison for the est of her life. jmo

I agree with ya, tobias!

tobias,
I have felt that way since the day the baby was found.

What the heck is going on? No updates from LE regarding Haleigh! Simon, I know if you had heard anything you could share you would of…it is so sad that Haleigh’s case didn’t get the attention that Caylee got. Is it because Haleigh came from poverty level? It should not matter. I am sick of Casey and all the media whore attorney’s that inserted themself in the case. Why are there no attorney’s fighting for Haleigh? State Attorney Ashton is doing a hell of a job seeking justice for Caylee. I wish he would be able to take over the Haleigh case. Kudos to Ashton! It is heart breaking that here we are over a year later and nothing…all LE has is a bunch of junkies in jail and that is no bomb shell…they are low lifes junkies now and then.

Where is Haleigh????
PC is keeping Ron’s audios, that to really bugs the heck out me!
Rant over…sorry.
Thank You so much Simon and Jan for keeping us updated on the Haleigh case and caring!

Casey was just too lazy to get a job and move out. She was too lazy to finish high school too. I realize having a child makes it more difficult to move out, but she could have found a roommate or something. Lots of women have made it without depending on their parents for total support.

Had she been more responsible maybe Cindy wouldn’t have been so controlling and she may have helped her if Casey had made an effort to help herself. Cindy was taking care of George too so she had her hands full. Lee was raised by the same parents and moved out (for a while).

The one person who would always love her more than any man would!

Jan57:

Are you ok? Please let us know how you are doing. There are quite a few of us concerned about you!

me too JB,To hear guilty,i was there from day one !

I like Jan57s’ posts as well!
I hope she doesn’t let someone run her off,
bbs really this time!

Cathy… earlier today there was a cat fight down the street from my Mother’s house. I had to get a close-up… I have never seen grown women rolling around in the middle of the street, before. First, the hair-pieces came out/off, then a T-shirt was ripped off. I’m still chuckling at the thought of the heavy-set chick rolling around with the twiggy one.

Sad thing is BA it was probably over some worthless guy two timing them.jmo

Sounds crazy BA women arent what they used to be thats for sure. Guess we cant call these LADIES. I hope the cops showed up and tazed the whole bunch of em. LOL JMO

things sure aren’t the way they used to be…i think these days we suffer from a lack of “civilization”…lol

can you imagine a bunch of women from the ’50’s, in their nicely pressed and starched dresses, pantyhose, heels & purses, rolling in the street, ripping off one another’s tiny hats??? ripping apart all of their hairdresser’s hard work (which they normally wore around for a week at a time)??

oh my goodness…lol 😉

OMG Adams,another one bit the dust? lol gosh i’d have been screaming my head off,lol
fights tear me up.used to they didn’t bother me but now i can’t take it,lol nerves.

Toughcookie–I love your 3:39 post. No truer words have been spoken. I don’t want to revisit this case years later, because they rushed to get a conviction and the wrong person was charged. I am in no rush for justice because I would like for them to get it right the first time around–no ifs,ands, or buts–no matter how long it takes.

I agree with both of you Robin and Madge! rather be safe than sorry later! I’d say they learned a few things after the Caylee case!

thanks *robin* i feel very strongly about that too! 🙂

15 months and no arrests. The best that could be said about PCSO is that they have been outwitted and outsmarted by some of the world’s dumbest criminals. Or they’ve been looking in the wrong direction this whole time. Time for Putnam County to bring in some real detectives to get to the bottom of this case. Haleigh deserves better.

me you know they have been looking all along in the wong direction,but, feel IMO SH statement of many POI have been identified after he calls the case a homicide, gives me pause and hope that the elusive guilty are soon to be charged.

Hey guys,

i read often but dont post 2 much anymore…what was said to Jan57 is a prime example of why.I hope Ron finally gets tangled in his own web of deceit. The 911 call and his actions of blowin the whistle on Donna Brock,in N.Y tellin Misty what was goin on.Another thing he defended her in anyway he could,even married her..IDK i just hpoe LE has noted all his un-explainable behavior…to find the 3 muskrats GUILTY…misty,tommy,n ron

TM39,

A few weeks ago it looked like PCSO might be close to solving the case, but as per usual, they are all talk and no action. They should not be relying on some druggie telling them the “truth” some day….they should be investigating.

They really need some experienced detectives to take over from this sorry lot. How long will it take before a fresh team are allowed to re-examine the case?

I wonder if Adam Walsh’s parents ever felt total closure for his young life, if I’m correct didn’t they wait until the man they thought to be Adam’s murderer died in Prison never knowing for sure if he was the one to
take little Adam’s life.

Simon, do you know what is going on with the so called tattoo that is on Chelsea’s foot with Haleigh’s name on it? TIA

I don’t know how we can add pic’s here and I try to email Simon and for some reason I cant’ through the link provided. Wish there was another way to contact him or Jan. There is a picture on the net. It is said that it’s a tattoo on Chelsea’s foot. It says Haleigh on it. If it were on her foot, why would she put it there? Is there more to Chelsea and Ron? Is there more that Chelsea knows? I find it odd that she would put a tat on her foot of a child she only knew for about 4 months. Thanks..

Quote:toughcookie said,in May 11th, 2010 at 3:34 pm

I agree 100% that LE should take their time and get it right the first time.
However, IMO I feel LE has made many mistakes already. JMO. I feel the FBI and real LE should of taken over this case a long time ago. Putnam is a small town, seems the players are close to some of LE and I fing that there is some conflict there. JMO

CathyJo63 said,in May 11th, 2010 at 6:15 pm I wish Jan57 would come back,I dunno why she got harassed anyway,its our opinions,I don’t always agree with her either but its the diff opinions that make it a discussion,lol

OMG,ALL the time either i meant to say,glad i JUST caught that! shewwwwwwwww

I’m sorry Cathy it was Jan57 on this morning.

I’m gonna shut up you were talking about Jan57.

Mad I wonder why she would get a tatoo of Haliegh. do you have the link?

ty Linda and TexMom!

Cathy would you please type in you broswer Chelsea croslin tatoo of haliegh and read what comes up.

OKAYYYYY WAIT.HOL;D UP HERE……….
WTH????????????? SHES NOT RELATED TO HALEIGH????????

and why the foot? was it sposed to be a secret or sommin,oboyyyyyyyy

O/T: How heart breaking!
ksl.com – Body of missing 4-year-old found; mother and stepfather … charged with aggravated homicide

May 11, 2010 … http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=10728945
They have been charged with aggravated homicide, felony child abuse … UPDATE: At 5 p.m. investigators discovered the body of 4-year-old Ethan Stacy at the Ogden Valley site. … Police say the boy has no history of mental illness. … 2010 ksl.com | KSL Broadcasting Salt Lake City UT | Site hosted …
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=10728945

its not coming up even google,i typed it as you said,lol

I’m so screwed up today….went searching for news and I ran right smack dab into my butt.

as it has been, in this case…

just when you least expect it>>>>>EXPECT IT!!!

lol

They have all deep fried their brains!

I have heard some off the wall stuff but if that don’t take the cake nothing will!

BAD ENOUGH RON GOT tERESA ON HIS CHEST BUT I SWEAR TO gOD THIS IS WORSE!

I just don’t understand just about anything any more.

how can we Linda,I swear to God they’re gonna be the death of all of us! Shock treatments,padded rooms….white coats…..

thinking about the most recent events re: the drug case, and all involved, i’m wondering if this might be one of the last strategies that LE has with these people who are somehow involved in haleigh’s case.

i think most seem to agree that even though the drug arrest was, most definitely,something to give LE some leverage…(they were drug dealers already…if they hadn’t been the sting would’ve never worked on them)they will be sentenced, and the sentencing is serious time! what i’m wondering is, if nobody talks, nobody gives up any info before their plea & sentencing,has LE lost their most effective bargaining chip?

to my way of thinking, once they are down…they are down. i can’t see anyone wanting to spill the beans once they are already locked up for 25 yrs. or so. at least with 25 yrs they have a chance of seeing daylight again, but if they were to tell what really happened with haleigh, they would never get back out, and for someone, it may be a DP.

jmo

well i’m going just in a while if I don’t settle down.

Yeah what I found good old bald Art in the wake of it.

I mean I am glad if someone just wanted a tattoo of her,For Haleigh but it ain’t rational to me imo to go out and get a childs name on you if it aint yours nor even related,thats dumb!!

toughcookie said,in May 11th, 2010 at 6:38 pm *madjgnlaw* ~ yes, i understand your frustration…the fbi cannot get involved unless it is something that violates united states criminal law, (as in something to do with it going through a computer, wiretapping,mail & a host of other things), or if a crime has taken place across state lines. so as much as this case might benefit from it happening, i don’t see that it would qualify, unfortunately.
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The Florida Department of Law Enforcement’s (FDLE) Child Abduction Response Team (CART) and the FBI’s Child Abduction Rapid Deployment (CARD) teams were involved with this case within the first 24 hours and some still are involved. It has not been only the Putman County Sheriff’s Office (PCSO) involved in this investigation.

more arrests *cathyjo* ? really ?

oops…now i’m catching the craziness..lol

sorry for the double post!

Tough,after the last search i tthought?? they did??

*acey* the child abduction unit of the fbi will come in at the beginning for the specific reason that IF an abduction occured over state lines, it would be in their scope of investigation to handle it. the fbi is never routinely involved in anything that doesn’t have to do with federal law. only in cases that violate federal law, or transpire (or where the suspect has transpired) over state lines.

this info is easily found anywhere on the internet.

JB said,
in May 11th, 2010 at 1:43 pm

OJ – Been reading here for years but not posting. Beast and C~A are bloggers from the past….husband and wife from what I remember. Have a lot of kids and live in Canada if I remember correctly. Seems like they got banned from here a long time ago…there were a bunch of people that left….some uproar about someone named Pickles and someone named PaPa….it was ugly to watch. I guess Simon and Jan let them come back. I’ve never blogged with them but I’m a little gunshy of them because I watched the ugliness from a long time ago. Just be careful is all I can say. I’m in NO way saying they are bad folks. Could be the nicest couple you’d ever meet. IDK. Just watched a lot of ugliness in the past is all I’m saying.

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JB I have gone to great lengths not bring up the past of my experience in this room but you have so I feel I must correct you on the issue we left/banned ..all at the same time, without going into detail out of respect for jan and simon who after some time have reflected and allowed us to post again.

so here it goes since you brought it up..
I came into this blog summer 08…BNN family was HUGE after no time united in our love for poor caylee and the justice we all seeked for her.

BNN WAS MY FAMILY…I played a huge part as did Beast who even wrote for BNN for a while.

PICKLES…was a huge influence on the blog and was on everyday..don’t know where she is now..I considered her a very close “blog family member”.

We endured so much together and I DO NOT regeret one post or one friendship. IT WAS NOT PICKLES THAT CAUSE THE UGLINESS ( at first) and yes your right it got ugly…IT WAS ANOTHER CASE THAT WAS THE CAUSE …and that is all I will say about that out of respect to Jan and Simon.

Papa was also a very very highly respected part of the blog. It did all fall apart but not because of them.

Beast and I are married …YES…we have been fighting for justice for caylee everyday..and that’s no word of a lie..since day one..every court hearing, every article every defense or state move..we know about it.

It is with great gratitude that I am back at “home” with the ability to let the water under the bridge be just that. This was my very first blog. Coming back should only prove that all involved have one thing in common..JUSTICE FOR THE CHILDREN..That is the passion we love and “fight” with..

OJ…reminds me of a blogger named DAK..Dak was irritating and obnoxious and would say CASEY IS INNOCENT…he did grow on me as you all say OJ would…so some things don’t change although I see a change in the way “new comers” seem to be ignored. I guess with out knowing we were here two years ago anyone would see us as newbies…but that is the last thing from the truth.

Did I say I wouldn’t go into too much detail? LOL
Sorry, but as I said, I really wanted to keep the past in the past but we are NOT UGLY..and we ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON.
Simon and Jan can tell you that!

JB …DONT’BE GUN SHY…we arent’ any more “opinionated then oj”..and he is accepted here with his less then popular belief. Although he is entitled to his opinion and I realize that.
Instigations as a reply or antagonizing someone for replying to a post is IMO just not necessary. That kind of behaviour does not serve any purpose.

We stand our ground as all do…makes us no different then any other poster..

JUSTICE FOR THE BABIES…AND MY THANKS TO JAN AND SIMON FOR TAKING THE HIGH ROAD IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE.

I remember on Timmy’s best friend’s myspace,they were getting tats in memory of him.So,is this telling us something here?

I still wanna hang on to Haleigh being alive some where.

But i am almost certain they said there’d be more arrests after the meeting when everyone said LE told ron to plan a funeral,which i don’t even know if thats true,lol ya know!

cathy…thanks for the reply..however..Oj is obnoxious with copy and pasting…same exact post on top of instigating calling names..that’s my definition of annoying I see yours is different. He is annoying for those reasons and that’s my opinion so telling he is not in the way I say is telling me my opinion is not valid. WRONG.
I posted the fact I was here and posting for many posts and nobody welcomed me…like I said, things have changed and some haven’t but when I was here as a BNN family member…it was a nano second when a newbie came into the room that they were WELCOMED!!!! JMO

*cathyjo* ~ i didn’t mean to sound as if i questioned the fact (about more arrests). i only asked it as if to say, “wow! i didn’t remember hearing that!”

there have been so many twists and turns in this case, i admit i have forgotten certain things…

😉

Linda said,in May 11th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
I saw the picture on Scared Monkey site..someone there got it off Chelsea my-space or a friend..later I read about it on twitter. I do have the picture saved though. It says Haleigh and under ther is a picture of a baby angel with wings. I find this very disturbing. I don’t know how to add pictures here that is why I tried to email Simon but for some reason I can’t through the link provided.

Cj63,

You are not half as annoying as you think. Maybe a third!: j/k

Sorry for caps!
Most of us now are used to OJ,he has his beliefs and we have ours but we still want him to feel welcome,i know i do!

lol i irritate myself Jaba,believe me!lol

exactly tough! its weird!
Jaba,I know i aggravate myself with caps,lol

I swear this is the most shocked and i have been shocked with this case plenty but she’s not even a relative?? no pun intended at all but its like tgluing one of those missing kids flyers to your forehead!

I got plenty of shock value in me,lol just from Chelsea!

Cathyjo,

I hope we are all welcome, and also welcome to vent frustration with each others views without impuning or demeaning an other.

I knw who ISN’T welcome, the nasty gremlin tribe that has apparently invaded the small space below your caps key. 🙂 you got to spray some Raid in there and root them out. Use a match and smoke ’em out of there. Call 911 if it starts to get ugly.

obviously…THE HEART OF MY POST WAS AND MY HISTORY WITH BNN ESCAPES YOUR COMMENTS..BUT OJ MAKES IT IN…

GOOD NIGHT ALL…

CA,Thats not true,i wasn’t here then! don’t go!

sheeesh,what i get for back peddlin’lol

I think most of the players in Haleighs case will look for any excuse to get a new tat. Seriously though I don’t think it’s so far fetched. As much as we care about Haleigh, Chelsea actually knew her and maybe their kids played together. It’s painful to think of any child as missing or murdered, I imagine if you knew the child it would be worse.

JMO

It’s like walkin on eggshells in here. Whoops watch your step!!

cathyjo…PEACE …but I do believe that ones opinion or posts needs to either be supported with reasons to support or at least not contradict itself..

🙂

You are more than welcome Cathyjo,

I’m easy 🙂

as is MISTY/TOMMY/RONALD…( SO FAR)
One needs to know the difference between indifference and the true meaning of eggs and their shells..that statement is overated IMO…with the likes of the croslins/cummings and anthonys.. 🙂

see lol you got me right there difference between indifference,lol

lol mary!

CJ – You haven’t even come close to offending me..no worries..I think I am just a little irritated at conflicting post about being wrong and not being wrong..but what ever..mostly is because I posted a comment with the highest of regards to the blog and with your post specifically mentioned nothing of the heart of my message…the side comment was picked up to my disappointment along with a contradictive post to boot..

JMHO – with all do respect to you

oh *cathyjo*…please don’t feel you have to defend yourself in that way…no one here needs to use “big fancy words” to communicate their feelings. as in life, everyone is doing the best they can, myself included. i think this place is blessed to have you (and i am a newbie! so everyone else already knows that!)

you question until you get an answer, you laugh, and make others laugh too, even in some of the hardest situations, and you are open, about yourself, and your feelings!!

don’t change a thing. 😀

toughcookie said,
in May 11th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

oh *cathyjo*…please don’t feel you have to defend yourself in that way…no one here needs to use “big fancy words” to communicate their feelings. as in life, everyone is doing the best they can, myself included. i think this place is blessed to have you (and i am a newbie! so everyone else already knows that!)

you question until you get an answer, you laugh, and make others laugh too, even in some of the hardest situations, and you are open, about yourself, and your feelings!!

don’t change a thing. 😀
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Indubitably!!

oh ok,i gotcha Ca,
I have been irritated thru the whole thing probably,lol

crushed them all.

lol

beautiful…allowing posters to get to know one another is a good start..DON’T CRY…I only bite if bitten …

As we wait for answers and NG bombshells it seems like innocent women are dropping like flys. The poor oriental girl, the mother at the mail box, now the golfer. Sorry I can’t remember names. Sad Sad situation though.

I agree with that,we all knew casey did it!

Daughter phone brb

C~A said,
in May 11th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

MARY…your so right…

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Sorry CA, I left out the rest of your post.
Just liked the sound of that so much…lol j/k

awwwww Mary,Thank You so much!
You’re gonna make me cry!

LINDA…YOU SAID “YOU CRUSH THEM”…???? Now your in trouble?

OH my GOD ! I take that back.

Beautiful adams–That’s hilarious. I agree with you about CathyJoe. She has made me laugh when I feel like crying. She need not change a thing, if she does, this site would not be the same. I rarely post but read here daily. She is definately one of my favorites. CathyJoe, you are the epitome of what makes this site what it is and should be. I enjoy your posts, your witty humor,and your life stories. Do not change a thing and there is no defense needed for being a great person, as you are! JMO

I don’t know legal stuff and my mind is gone too Mary,lol

I know big words but can’t remember names. Or what I did yesterday. lol

I AM very very surprised that there has not been hardly any comments on the recent article and what it means for caylee…BLOWS ME AWAY!! Just not what I am used to with BNN fam.

I think all can agree, C~A @ 8:56

There was 11 comments since article went up…first commemt 2:58pm today on the hearing etc..that’s why i came here..WHERE IS CAYLEES’ SUPPORT?

CA,

I was obsessed with the Caylee case for a long time. When Casey finally went to jail, it was somewhat satisfying. At the same time (concurrently) Haleigh went missing. It kind of sidetracked me, know Caseys trial was so far away.

MJ IS MICHAEL JACKSON…or M.D (DOOGIE HOWSWER)

MY BAD…JUST LEARNING NAMES..SORRY..MD AKA MARYD
i THINK you knew that 😉

MD 😉 – Watching Caylees’ memorial..HALEIGH GOES MISSING..i was so green on the blog world and how many go missing….I thought “I” had seen the end..caylee was found…THE REST IS HISTORY.. OMG

I think there is support for Caylee. But I also believe that since her fate is known, some of us tend to cling to HaLeigh’s case, because of the unknown.

BEAUTIFUL…that contradicts anyone who blogs for justice…just because a body is found…people just drop interest? Boggles my mind..I know it’s just your offering of perhaps why…but one who is involved in missing kids only to drop them cause their dead is not the actions IMO of a one who truly cares about justice…it doesn’t end in death..IT ENDS IN JUSTICE..THAT’S ALL THESE KIDS HAVE LEFT…

MD..I totally agree…COPYCAT SENSELESS ABDUCTION/KILLING…so many common factors…yet so different in so many ways..who knows the things that went through haleighs abductor/killers minds that could possibly justify the demise of one innocent baby girl with the smile as big as Texas… I pray justice is served and will stay tuned and spend my free time blogging with like minds..waiting for justice to be served!

All I am saying is that some may feel that they can do more for the unknowns. Everyone has their own idea of what fighting for JUSTICE means.

toughcookie said,in May 11th, 2010 at 7:37 pm *acey* the child abduction unit of the fbi will come in at the beginning for the specific reason that IF an abduction occured over state lines, it would be in their scope of investigation to handle it. the fbi is never routinely involved in anything that doesn’t have to do with federal law. only in cases that violate federal law, or transpire (or where the suspect has transpired) over state lines.

this info is easily found anywhere on the internet.
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Yes, there are plenty of articles that indicate the FBI and FDLE were quickly involved with this missing child case.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=130972&catid=295&GID=GeOCJbG//mcJMoGjpBsXR7lrfB+BH7HsTWju0HQsbDA%3D
Amber Alert: Massive Search for Missing Girl
February 10, 2009 Updated 6:42 pm

The FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT says Haleigh had on a pink shirt and underwear.

She is three feet tall and weighs 39 pounds.

The girl’s mother drove in from where she lives in Glen St Mary to Putnam County to talk with authorities.
Helicopters and boats from a number of agencies are looking for Haleigh. Authorities are searching cars leaving the neighborhood. The FBI IS ALSO ASSITING IN THIS INVESTIGATION.
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http://www.amw.com/missing_children/brief.cfm?id=63252
AMERICAS MOST WANTED
Putnam County Sheriff’s Office Lead investigator Jon Merchant said cadaver dogs, bloodhounds, article search dogs, dive teams and marine units were involved.

Sixteen FBI agents flew in to work on timelines on Feb. 11, 2009 and other agencies assisting that day included: St. Johns County, Flagler County, Volusia County, Marion County, the FLORIDA DEPT. OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, the State Attorney, 7th Circuit and various FLA voliunteer emergency service groups, Inv. Merchant said.

TEAM ADAM was on the scene for Day 2 of the search and Texas Equusearch arrived on Day 3 and began their search the next day.
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http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090216/ARTICLES/902161002/1002?
Ground search to wrap up
February 16, 2009

Ryan said though the ground search may be ending, the investigation is still in high gear. He said they are working with FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT and the FBI on the case.
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http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5022879.php?
Posted: Monday, 17 August 2009 3:30PM
Haleigh Update: Parents Cleared, Misty’s Story Unclear

FDLE processed the crime scene. Many items of potential evidentiary value were collected and sent to FDLE’s crime lab for analysis (ie. for fingerprints and DNA). All of evidence has been examined and/or processed, but none of it has identified any suspect or additional leads as to who the suspect(s) may be.

CA
GE?

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/isd/cirg/mission.htm

Child Abduction Rapid Deployment (CARD) Teams
It is the mission of the FBI’s Crimes Against Children Unit to provide a quick and effective response to all incidents of crimes against children. The first few hours after a child is abducted are critical, and that is why we have established the Child Abduction Rapid Deployment (CARD) Teams.

The CARD Teams are designed to deploy teams of 4–6 experienced personnel to provide on-the-ground investigative, technical, and resource assistance to state and local law enforcement.

The CARD Teams consist of Crimes Against Children investigators who have in-depth experience in child abduction cases. The nationwide CARD Team consists of 48 members, with two full teams serving each region of the country. They work closely with FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit representatives, National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime Coordinators, and Crimes Against Children Coordinators.

In addition to their unique expertise, CARD Teams are capable of quickly establishing an on-site command post to centralize investigative efforts and operations. Other assets they bring to the table include a new mapping tool to identify and locate registered sex offenders in the area, national and international lead coverage, and the Child Abduction Response Plan to guide investigative efforts.

CARD Teams are primarily involved in non-family child abductions, ransom child abductions, and mysterious disappearances of children. They work with state and local law enforcement to protect and save the lives of innocent children.

Md..Ge? I don’t see what your askin sorry

BECKY..your right IMO..andrea lyin is warming up…but her hot plate is defective..JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE..

maryd said,in May 11th, 2010 at 8:51 pm CathyJo63 said,
in May 11th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

awwwww Mary,Thank You so much!
You’re gonna make me cry!

CathyJo,

It was Toughcookie who wrote the post, I only agreed. But I do loves ya too.

Awwwww,sorry Tough,I dunno how i got that wrong! Thank You!!!!!!!!!!
but ya still made me cry!,lol
and I love you too KMary,lol

*cathyjo* didn’t mean to make you cry…just my thoughts…hope after the cry, you *smiled* instead! 🙂

lol tough,you know me….always love to laugh!
I wanted to be a comedian but everybody just laughed at me,lol

I like the fact that we all have diff opinions but still get along so well!lol
makes me proud!

Off topic for one minute. Just saw a segment on the Bling Ring or whatever their name was who robbed millions of dollars in jewelry from stars. How does she get only six months jail time. Isn’t that grand larceny?

When was the last time you contributed Iketa? Maybe the recent lull in activity relevant to this case has curtailed some of the lively debate. Hence the bantering. Maybe you could have started the ball rolling rather than taking time to critique. If your not part of the solution you may be part of the problem.

Iketa said,in May 11th, 2010 at 10:37 pm Wow. During the past few months this blog has degenerated into something I don’t even enjoy reading anymore. Gone are the days when posters would discuss what they knew and what they wanted to know. Now it’s mostly just a bunch of self congratulatory preening and weening bloggers, filled with waaay too many LOL’S, and “fans of its own fans” club.

If you look into a menacing dog’s eye, that will just incite the crazed beast. All of these back and forth comments, diatribes, and “one point of view only” statements just further poisons the pool of intelligent discussion. Sorry; it was way better before.
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Hmmm so you have a problem with people being nice to one another?

If tommy only faces 3 years or less actual, minus what he’s already served plus the other misdemeanors, etc…then I agree, why would he roll over on anyone for a deal? It would be a small deal at that.

ron and misty might be able to shrink theirs.

It troubled me when ron says. The line about Haleigh getting ‘stolte’. It makes me think he knew something was coming and misty wasn’t on point. Like he thought something coud happen from some prior threat and warned misty but after they argued and turned her phone off. He may, (we don’t have phone record proof) received a call that night that someone was a comin to get even for something. They come in, misty can only stand there and he/she/they take the little girl. Ron is pissed when he gets home. And his comment saying he had better people to call leads me to think, in this scenario, he knows who was a comin’ and wanted to call around and find out what was up.

Her not being returned could be a function of too much heat and the little girl saw her captors on broad daylight and they got rid of her, or, she is still alive.

Under this theory ron and misty would have to cover for each other at the expense of Haleigh. Imo

Iketa AMEN.

Jaba: I have thought that maybe M didn’t want to to babysit that night in particular because she knew something/someone was/could be coming. I think this fits into your thoughts. imo

Good Evening Everyone

CathyJo Maybe they thought they shouldn’t wait 31 days to find out. lol

maryd said,in May 11th, 2010 at 9:11 pm CA

At first I almost thought it was some kind of a copycat pretend kidnapping to try and capitalize on the public, after seeing how the Anthony’s worked it. I thought maybe they just hid Haleigh and would try and do the donation ride, media thing and make big bucks.
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To this day, I still would not be at all surprised if we hear the Anthonys had something to do with Haleigh going missing. Very odd that Dominic Casey was hired by the Griffis/Sheffields immediately, and a foundation was formed by that side of the family in record time.

Good point, maybe something was up and she wanted no part of it. But then again, if ron knew before going to work he would have made his mom or gma take them.

If it was a call during work that’s different. I’m sure they pulled all rons calls from before and after the incident.

CathyJo63 said,in May 11th, 2010 at 11:47 pm hmm,never thought of it before now,lol but wonder why they even called 911 if he knew or suspected someone?? just thinking out loud,lol
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WRONG!! misty and ron shared a few quick panicked words before the 911 call, he saw the backdoor proped open, therefore he knew haleigh was “stole”..they did not, as you say, “knew” or “suspect” someone. It was STRANGER ABDUCTION.

Maybe somebody came by his work.

The 911 call is just a little strange.

Me: besides Mr. Casey wasn’t there other people involved that were also involved in Caylee’s search or is that just a rumor?

I wonder who ‘we have better people to call’. Like who? You have 911 on the line. What other person is going to get a swarm of police to your area any faster?

I’ve never seen Iketa before and she comes and attacks us for being who we are?

theres no new news the last few days and its slow but we are still here for Haleigh….so what if we have some fun………..sheeeeesh!
I am sure everyone has heard what we last heard,so why have a problem?

right Jaba!

IKEA? Isn’t that a furniture store? lol Thanks CJ I felt the need to respond to Iketa’s put downs.

Anyway, back to discussion. Looks like we’re starting from square one. The 911 call.

OJ, an abduction still could have been someone they knew or feared, or anticipated.

Geeeez,we’ll let ya join in the reindeer games wiff us! sheeeeeeesh!

I wish we had phone records and a lot more to go on.

It ‘could’ be a million different things.

What we have is drug posee and a band of thieves running their course and endangering childrens lives.

Also how can it be stranger abduction yet name an ex cop who lost a daughter
As the one who has her?

Seems like hiding a high profile kid would be difficult to hide when this ‘new’ kid just shows up in someones life. Its been done before but never had we had such a specific suspect.

Here I am tonight, just being able to get on the site and what do I see? More of the jabbing back and forth. Why can’t you all drop it?? It’s not necessary to start off your post with your quick jab at someone and then go on with what you want to say. This is how the bs gets going. Ugh! Its like someone has to get the last word? Really? Just don’t comment on it anymore.

From what I know, this site has moderators. If something is a problem then we are to write to those moderators and let them handle it….at least that is what I read from them the last time this started. Seems to be the same people doing it too. Sorry, its just very irritating to see the childishness. It takes away from the subject.

jaba said,in May 12th, 2010 at 12:08 am “A few quick paniced words”

I wonder what they were? Do we have first hand statements from ron or misty of what was said?
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obviously not..do you?
during a panic situation, human behavior and common sense says they spoke to each other before they called 911..

Jaba: I was still wondering that from last night.

That was part of Oj’s theory CJ that a retired cop stole Haleigh because he had a daughter who died.

Supposedly Hope all the locals SO’s were checked out. That’s what i have read anyway. Except one who disappeared right after Haleigh went missing who hasn’t been located.

Oh sorry, right after or right before Haleigh went missing.

robin said,
in May 11th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

Beautiful adams–That’s hilarious. I agree with you about CathyJoe. She has made me laugh when I feel like crying. She need not change a thing, if she does, this site would not be the same. I rarely post but read here daily. She is definately one of my favorites. CathyJoe, you are the epitome of what makes this site what it is and should be. I enjoy your posts, your witty humor,and your life stories. Do not change a thing and there is no defense needed for being a great person, as you are! JMO

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I totally agree CathyJo is a joy and I am blessed to call her friend!!!!!!

TY MaryD. Does anyone know who this SO is? I would think they would pass this info. on to other locations and locate him. (I guess I assume him could be her)

Misty tells the truth in her 911 call:

Misty Croslin: “yes- it was bricked- there was a brick on the floor…when I was asleep it was not like that.”

She is telling the truth. When she was asleep, it was not like that! It is after she woke up that the brick got placed there…by her!

So saying they had paniced words is just a supposition. That’s what I thought.

As far as words they had, I Suppose they could have been planning the 911 call, but since I don’t have evidence, nor apparently does anyone else, I can’t be sure.

Thank you guys,I just read up where i missed some comments and i don’t know how to take compliments really,but you guys make it easy to be me…….just so understanding and caring,and yea now i know i am gonna bawl!
and i do think so much of all of you too,takes nothing special to be a friend of yours’comes too easy!

Chad Reynolds, Registered Sex Offender who has been missing since Feb. 1st.
He has a previous sexual offense committed in Putnum County, where Haleigh and her family live. Reynolds family claims he left to attend a Super Bowl party and has not been seen since. He borrowed his friend Amy’s car and that later broke down south of Marion County line and Reynolds left it abandoned.
http://www.cbs47.com/content/topstories/story/Missing-Predators-Family-Speaks-Out/3DjI6B_noU2xnGk_rEAUuA.cspx

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off…personId=54368
Reynolds originally broke into a trailer, committed robbery and molested an 11 year girl. He was convicted in 2003 for lewd or lascivious molestation victim under 12 years and was sentenced to seven years in prison. He was released in November 2008.
See — http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off…personId=54368

CathyJo63 said,in May 12th, 2010 at 12:40 am Thank you guys,I just read up where i missed some comments and i don’t know how to take compliments really,but you guys make it easy to be me…….just so understanding and caring,and yea now i know i am gonna bawl!
and i do think so much of all of you too,takes nothing special to be a friend of yours’comes too easy!
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if i push my hands around your waist will my fingers touch? jus curious. 😉

911: “Does it look like you had to sorta…like someone tried to enter your house.”

Misty: “Umm. Hold On.”

(Misty goes and looks)

Misty: “No it doesn’t. ”

911: “it doesn’t look like it is?”

Misty: “No”

Sorry, but wouldn’t she have already looked at the door, and wouldn’t Ron of checked it when they were looking for Haleigh? If my door was propped open, I would of wondered how it got open or how someone got in. I would of noticed if it was jimmied or busted. I think she “pretends” to go look, because she wanted to act like she didn’t know. Remember, she ‘looked everywhere for Haleigh’ and even ‘checked under the beds’….you know, the ones that were flat on the floor!!
If she had made half an attempt, everyone in that neighborhood would of been up, awake, etc. and she would of been banging on all their doors, screaming for Haleigh! But that didn’t happen.

15 months of stalling and changing stories goes hand in hand on this one.

Any one of them, or the proverbial ‘stranger’ who hit the lottery by finding the MH that’s easy to break into and takes a kid three feet from another person. I know its happened before, but how many times are these knuckleheads caught in the act of things like this. Just as many I think.

If one were to choke a child, wrap them up in a blanket and drive to river and tie a rope and a cinder block to them, and it sits a year or so in a river, what can cops go on besides the changing story of the players?

me included ? sorry lol

CathyJo63 said,in May 12th, 2010 at 12:46 am Well,it might touch that rib you been trying to get back OJ,LoL
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I want that rib!
I luv a slim woman ..and smart too..

and ones who’ll rob banks for ya too……..right OJ? LoL

I dunno about smart OJ’
my daughter got my brains cuz her dad still had his! lol

ROFL@OJ
Heres my addy,all ya hadda do was ask.
TooOleForYou@gmail.com

Wow, this blog turned into match dot com all of a sudden.:)

lol it did didn’t it?
OJ wants his rib back and won’t stop chasing women!

Misty obsession,rofl

I have an INNOCENCE obsession..
a FALSELY ACCUSED obsession..
a FALLGUY obsession..
a JUSTICE FOR ALL obsession..
an INNOCENT TIL PROVEN GUILTY obsession..
a JUSTICE FOR ALL obsession..
and you all should TOO!!!

Jaba–I read crime stories and one story that struck me was Tommy Lynn Sells, a convicted murderer on death row in Texas. One of his victims (although never charged) was a young boy. Tommy went in the house, killed the boy with a kitchen knife from the home. The mom was asleep and did not wake up until she heard the young boy scream. Tommy ran out. The mother calls 911. The cops never bought the story and subsequently arrested and charged her with her son’s murder. The cops did not believe someone would randomly walk into someone’s house and use a weapon that was all ready there. It was too easy to blame the mother instead of investigate. The mother never had a motive to kill her son, but yet the biological father (they were divorced) and police villified this poor mother. She was ultimately let out of prison, but not before the damage was done! That’s why I have such a problem with LE claiming this was not a stranger abduction. Why would they deem whomever took Haleigh had to be someone she knew? If they based it on the LDTs or the door (which they didn’t take for 2 weeks if – recall) then they have made some serious flaws in this investigation. I think LE has backed themselves in the corner with their focus on just these people. I think its a very real possibility that someone other than Misty, Tommy, or Ron are responsible. Ron’s comments alone leads in several different directions–Sheffields,drug dealers, or other criminal elements. Another is the 44 sex offenders in a 5 mile radius. I just hope LE has looked into every angle this case has presented before zeroing in on this bunch, but I feel they may be ill equipped to deal with a case this big and one that has become high profile. JMO

excellent post robin!…
but its wasted on jaba..
she wants to see someone swinging from a tree..

JenM

Do you think Jr. would of been aware that Haleigh was missing before it got dark and told someone? imo

Misty admits that Tommy, Joe and the TV/AC guy was there partying that night. They may of thought Haleigh was in bed, or maybe they were too wasted to think about it, or maybe one of them tried to do something to Haliegh in her room while everyone was partying and she took off to hide from them. Maybe Misty turned off the phone so she could party without Ron interupting. She then crashed and when she woke up, she realized Haleigh was gone. (I still think Tommy may of taken her…and Misty just doesn’t know for sure, but she feels guilty and responsible, so she sets the back door up to cover her guilt and irresponsibleness)

the one thing that continues to leave me stunned, is the lack of evidence! i’ve seen the intellect of those involved come into question throughout the media circus…but if they were so darned unintelligent, how is it that there were no footprints, not a fiber, piece of hair, or even tire tracks (at least i can’t remember them saying there were)around outside of that mobile home?

that they were smart enough not to leave a trace! just dumb luck…or??? idk

jmo

People already think she knows. That isn’t going to change by her lying. Tell us you had a party? Tell us who was there? It makes no difference to her or ron now, he can’t hurt her and he can’t be with her. It will be decades before they see each other.I know 17 year olds don’t think long term like that! But she has no distraction to that message in prison/jail. She thinks constantly about it.

And if someone grabbed the kid, ok, that doesn’t mean she’ll even do time for not reporting it. The drug charges are what they are, prison is the future, either truthfully or not.

Yep, she screwed herself royally!

Feeling guilty for letting someone take her? If she knew tommy did something I can see her being quiet seeing that tommy might now just do 3 or so.

But she ratted on him for other crimes from the jump.

And what would endear her more to ron than solving his kids kidnapping?

She could have called. Police before ron was told and tommy would have been protected from ronbo and his flea market gun collection.

*jenm* ~ when you mentioned the partying it reminded me of a little scenario i had been questioning, myself. from the beginning, once i had heard about misty’s 3 day “sex & drug binge”, i always thought that perhaps it was going to continue that night in the mh. maybe the reason she didn’t want to babysit, was more because she knew that someone was coming over to party. the last little piece of this is that when jr. was said to have seen the couch bouncing, i had wondered if the kids were supposed to be in bed sleeping by that point, and maybe the other guy from the 3-day party had come over (not white boy greg…but the other one, whose lap she was supposedly sitting on, that DIDN’T have sex with her, although he at first wanted to, but chose to do the coke instead) and they were “really” partying on the couch. if jr. saw that, and perhaps haleigh got out of bed to see what was going on…who knows what could have happened…just a theory.

jmo

If misty had people over why not say it now? They could be the kidnapper rather than any of her family members.

Does she care about the party goers more than ron or tommy?

i just think that these drug arrests, and the court dates following them, may well be LE’s final straw as far as having leverage to get anyone to talk. once they are down for 25 years, they will be even less willing to “confess”, or tell on one another, simply because, at least with a 25 yr sentence, they know they will see daylight again, but if they do confess re: haleigh, misty will likely be in there for life, and the others would be eligible for the death penalty, assuming they were found guilty. so i wonder if this is the final bargaining chip for LE to get an outright “confession” of sorts…

imo

totally agree with you on that one *jaba*!

i’m glad they are actually taking their time on this. so often, a hurried investigation and arrest can mean a mistrial or something, because they’ve overlooked something, or even the tiniest mistake in procedure, and the whole thing can be thrown out. much better to wait until they are positive.

imo

I also wonder about ron tipping off misty about donna brock. Was he just covering his dealing or covering for the Haleigh disappearance?

Maybe both?

I want to say that from experience, I know that if you are traumatized in any way, it is possible that you can completely block something out. I was kidnapped at age 15. I only remember the beginning of what happened and the end. I’ve tried to remember what happened in between, but I can’t. I had Dr.s tell me that it is so painful that I may never recall it. I truly have no clue what happened. If I wanted to know what happened and I took a LDT, I don’t know if it would show I was lying or not, as I truly don’t recall any of it from the middle. For a long time, I didn’t have some other peices, but a few things came to light over time, but nothing major.

This could be the case with Misty. Not saying it is, but it could be. Maybe something so traumatic happened that she has blocked it out. Especially since drugs may of been involved.

nite.

JenM–What a traumatic experience for such a young girl. It explains your passion for this case. I hope the person responsible was caught and has to pay for what he did to you.

Well, second chances are appropriate in so many cases, and in this one, for the drugs, I can see it.

The state of florida wants to cut this behavior feverishly. They know what it does the abusers and their families so they enact a mandatory sentence.

The second chance for mist will come, just not for a long time if she can’t show she was so set up in these sting she had to do it. She could say ron threatened to kill her if she didn’t do the dealin with him. That may sway a jury.

She said she wanted to straight, well this will only help her. Her second chance on the outside now is a support system of knuckleheads. She better off where she’s at.

Addiction is touching every family in America. It is devastating! I believe drugs are a weapon of mass destruction created and allowed to infiltrate our families on purpose-kind of like population control.
Jan57-two bikers were killed here today, very tragic accident. Ride safe.

Btw, who is behind the purposeful creation and distribution of drugs as population control?

I can see profit as the motive but not the population control.

Jaba, I’m sorry that does sound a bit crazy or conspiratorial but the problem and devastation appear to be of a design with an agenda. I dont know who exactly to blame but no healthy country would allow their youth and families to rot,suffer,and die in this way.

JMO…7:30 to 3 am time line
I am relatively new to following the facts of this case and have been reading and sifting through pages and pages of theories. I cant nearly put together any logical time line, certain facts do stick out to me and of course my own life experiences taint my judgment. The blankets stick out in my mind…and I could relate to someone making beds out of the blankets and gently placing Haleigh in the van. Was Misty’s blanket in the van also? Tommy took the van with Haleigh to Ron or on Rons orders while Misty stayed behind to clean, watch Jr, etc…JMO

Nite, thank you for letting me voice my opinion.

Hope said,in May 12th, 2010 at 12:34 am TY MaryD. Does anyone know who this SO is? I would think they would pass this info. on to other locations and locate him. (I guess I assume him could be her)
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His name is Chad Reynolds. He went missing a few days before Haleigh did, not too far from where she lived. He’s still not found.

jaba said,in May 12th, 2010 at 12:48 am 15 months of stalling and changing stories goes hand in hand on this one.

Any one of them, or the proverbial ’stranger’ who hit the lottery by finding the MH that’s easy to break into and takes a kid three feet from another person. I know its happened before, but how many times are these knuckleheads caught in the act of things like this. Just as many I think.

If one were to choke a child, wrap them up in a blanket and drive to river and tie a rope and a cinder block to them, and it sits a year or so in a river, what can cops go on besides the changing story of the players?
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Ummm…maybe they could investigate?
Casey Anthony – no confession, just lies – facing murder charge
Drew Peterson – no confession – facing murder charge
Scott Peterson – no confession – facing murder charges

I could go on and on. Good detectives don’t rely on drug addicts like Nay Nay to solve crimes for them, nor do they blame uneducated teenagers for their inability to solve crimes. They investigate and solve them. Why do you think Haleigh deserves any less than that?

treece said,
in May 12th, 2010 at 12:42 am

C~A said,
in May 11th, 2010 at 8:48 pm

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I was talking to stilllucy…I am who I am sensitive at times perhaps..surely that’s acceptable. Haleighs’ case is extremely frustrating. That’s me. Take me or leave me. I wear my heart on my sleeve a lot as well, however I was responding to a post made by someone who didn’t have their facts straight and perhaps expected some to be able to grasp the just of my post, for a better understanding of who I am not pick out the easy attackable points…

Jan..good points about George being honest until cindy got her claws into him…and he began his lying path of obstruction…he is no better then she or his murdering daughter. I can’t wait to hear the indictment testimony from good ol georgie.. the thing is..when it comes to testify..he has the “body odour” testimony from the le interview and then his contradictory lies about the smell being of garbage. ( the day I threw g under the bus when he lied bold face on larry king). so when does perjury come into play with these lyin sacks of dung?

As far as casey..also good point. I watched the hearing yesterday. Yes she began to cry when they spoke of how happy and healthy caylee was but it was her own guilty that was responsible for the minor water works. She knew the baby was happy and healthy and SHE TOOK THAT AWAY FROM HER. Perhaps her time spent in jail with all the time in the world to think about what she has done, has brought her to realize that it never needed to come down to murdering the child. That there were many many other options but IT’S TOO LATE!

IT will come out in trial, that caylee was happy and healthy NOT BECAUSE CASEY took care of her at all. She paid for NOTHING for that child. It was her parents that cared for and nurtured the baby. So as far as the EXPERT ( cough ) lyins had on the stand yesterday goes, when she says that if a mother spends her “free time” grinding it up at a bar..that doesn’t mean she is not a good mother.
Ashton should of asked her what her definition of FREE TIME WAS….casey spent every minute of everyday either dropping the baby off, leaving the baby at home or dragging her along to do what CASEY WANTED…hanging out with caseys friends and sleepin in young mens beds with caylee in tow is TOTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE…and NOT A GOOD MOTHER. It will all come out…pictures or not..JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE

I am wondering about those cinder blocks..surely they have results by now..we are not identifying a body here…testing cinder blocks for evidence.

SIMON..have you heard anything on this front by any of your sources? What’s the hold up?

I think that the Anthonys know that Caylee died in that house and was at some point buried in the back yard. They dont want that house anymore. I really think Casey told them something, whether or not it was the truth we’ll never know. I dont think Caylees death was planned. Just for the reason that Casey didnt seem to do much planning as far as where to put her body. It was in the car for some time, doesnt seem like if you planned to kill someone that a trunk of a car would be its final resting place. I think it is her fault and she was murdered but it wasnt planned.

tamny

I agree with you. I don’t think Casey planned to kill Caylee.

CA

I don’t know what made me think May 13th?

When does the rest of the bunch go?

I think tommy is up first, then ron and then misty.

I think tommy has a pre-trial hearing tomorrow. Not positive.

jaba

Thanks. Wonder what will happen in Tommy’s pre-trial hearing?

I have told everyone before I go to art harris page from time to time. You all need to read the comments on his last article. I think it’s the last comment he is telling someone by the name of Megan that people are trying to trash Lindsy. GO look. It’s about Tommy’s shoes being thrown away. Lindsy is the one that stated that in one of the jailhouse tapes no one made that up.lol

Jaba

Also about Casey not planning on killing Caylee. I think the tape was placed on there after she died to look like a kidnapping. JMO

whenever the tape was applied…for what ever reason casey had…IT BACKFIRES EITHER WAY!!!

BSJ – I agree with your observations – this is a strong argument on its own:

“I believe Ron would have cracked and found the person who did this if there was any chance of a stranger or person besides himself being involved in Haleighs abduction.”

JMO

According to Tommys docket he is in court for his case and has plead not guilty but its a bench trial like Hopes (no jury) so we should hear how long he gets tommorow. Ron iis pleding not guilty with a jury trial so who knows when that will happen, we should know when this is put on his docket after tommorow.
Misty has until June 3. jmo

he will only be sentenced if he pleads guilty, pleads no contest or is found guilty..non of that is happening tomorrow.

well if it is a bench trial, its a trial without a jury. The prosecution calls witnesses and presents their case, the defense does the same. I think if that were happening there would be more of a circus atmosphere because all the players would be there to testify. Thats assuming tommy’s lawyer is not a blithering idiot like Hope’s lawyer who led her to slaughter! She should be DISBARRED for what she did, pleading hope guilty as charged! What a SHYSTER!

Thanks Robin. Yes, they did catch them. I was in a van (yep) with 2 of them when it happened.

Jan, I think that we take so many things in this case as fact, that its hard to seperate what is real and what is not. Just because GMSykes said she went by there that day at that time, does not make it true. However, I also posted that, If GMSykes did go by and then Misty made the kids go to bed, then Misty could of started partying and passed out, Tommy could of slipped in the bedroom, did something to and or with Haleigh, then Misty woke up, Haleigh is gone, she feels responsible and panics. How will she explain what happened? So, she sets up the back door to cover for her self and protect herself from the wrath of Ron.

I went into more detail above on that.

However, I guess when it comes down to it, I think Tommy is the person who did something with Haleigh, I think Misty doesn’t know what happened to Haleigh, but she does know that she feels guilty and knows what she did to cover it up due to thinking it was her fault and I think Ron believes Misty and still does but knows Misty isn’t telling him everything about the events surrounding the disappearance that night.

I also think Timmy knows that Tommy took that van that night and tried to cover for him, but his story and Chelsea’s story didn’t match. Lyndsy has figured it out and wants divorced. He is trying to convince Lyndsy on the tape that he knows what he is doing when he is high (which tells me he doesn’t).

I truly believe that they will find Tommy guilty of this and that Misty is psychologically messed up due to her automatically thinking it was her fault and acting on her own guilt feelings by setting up an abduction scene to cover for herself when she knew nothing about what really happened. She had her suspicions though as time has gone on, and has given theories to police. Ron is guilty of not knowing what to think or do. He’s all over the map. I don’t think he did anything to Haleigh. He is just torn.

Those are my thoughts.

MadJ. Can you tell me where to find that pic of Haleighs name on Chelseas foot?

LFJ, I would like to see that too. I cant get over how these people have no money for anything but they keep getting tattoos. Guess thats more important then paying your bills. jmo

OJ’ Glove

I think Hope can get an appeal she said in phone call to her Mom that she didn’t understand. JMO

And the strnager ex cop theory, is anyone heard anything more on that? Seems to be a specific claim. More than we have now. Seems quiet on that front.

ok when did the ex cop story come to light? Who is ( among the family ) talking about it if any …

Good morning don’t you think if she were covering for Ron she would have talked . She isn’t really that content where she’s at.and if Ron married her to keep her quite, if he had harmed Haliegh . I don’t think he would have divorced her.And she did say Ron wanted the divorce.

This is the Ron theory

I think Misty has had her suspicions (theories) all along of what might of happened to Haleigh, but couldn’t come right out and say. She has hinted at it. She has said, you need to look at someone else. She has given the cops many theories of what she thinks.

I think on the LDT, the part she was lying about was the time line, the placing of the brick by the door, …. She may know in her mind that Tommy took Haleigh, but she can’t consciously differentiate the reality of it from what she experienced while on drugs that night. (Some people also have blackouts and can’t remember stuff). I think this is why they could never arrest her or charge her, because she didn’t do anything to Haleigh.

Jaba, I know Police told her she wouldn’t be charged if she just told how the events went, etc., but she is a child. It’s like a parent telling a child, just tell me what you did and you won’t get in trouble. You tell and they beat the crap out of you anyway. Maybe in her mind she knows that she will be punished for something she didn’t do. After all, she lets it be known that she was the one that got punished for telling on people who molested her.(classic sign of abuse as a child). This is learned behavior. She trusts no one.

Not a single person can be believed because they have changed their stories at least once. Even GGSykes, at first she claims Misty was so exhausted. Then recently she changed that to she was fine when she dropped the clothes off.
Also Misty being the great girlfriend took a nose dive recently with the arrest of Ron. Makes you wonder why all the lies??? jmo

Ex cop theory = made up for shock value and an attempt to explain it is so far fetched and without basis that no one who believs or says is willing to make a fool of themselves by offering up any sort of evidence.

You would think that one would want police or fbi to check on that theory, that would mean she could be alive.

I think its just shock value for the purpose of shock value.

At this point, this poor little misty, who no doubt had no chance of success, but this is the life of Haleigh, and she loves the kids like her own, as she says, so after all the clean drug free time she has had, she still stonewalls and lies and blames others.

She can turn it around now. Nobody is going to hurt her anymore in prison for keeping quiet or telling the truth about all of what happened. As a good lawyer will tell you, “tell me all the good and all the bad so I can respresent you the best way I can.”

I just want to say; I enjoy everyone’s posts even the ones that I do not agree with. I have stated many times over it gives me more food for thought. I do get a little miffed when misinformation or lies are posted as facts, but, know that it is not intentional or if it is it will soon be addressed and corrected.
In the past few weeks many thing have surfaced an actually give us a few more things to consider and ponder.
The fact that Ron and Crystal where served subpoenas the week before HaLeigh’s abduction
to appear in court is interesting when you consider the timing of the fight between Ron and Misty. We have heard that Ron and Crystal where talking as well that week before Haleigh’s abduction. It is it to far of a reach to think that Ron and Misty where fighting over Ron and Crystal talking?
Ron stated that no one knew where he lived ,but, Nay Nay and he was under the impression that is who Misty was with that weekend and did not discover Misty’s truthfully activities until ever thing was exposed and made known to media after HaLeigh’s abduction.
We also have heard that Nay Nay and Misty ran into and Misy had words with Amber Brooks that weekend and that they have had bad blood between the two since Misty met Ron.

Now jumping a head to the arrests of Amber and Nay Nay and the involvement of Cobra and Kim P.
We see that Nay Nay and Amber are buddies and defiantly are struggling with their addictions and bad decisions and are caught up into the “private” investigation of HalLeigh’s abduction. Nay Nay tells a wild tale of sex and drugs and IMO puts the hot spot light directly on her BFF Misty. Amber is not heard from nor is she seen. I found it odd that the one hat Misty considered a friend rolled on her for Cobra and Kim on camera and audio, but, her known enemy is silent.
Better yet Nay Nay’s bond is revoked soon there after and picked back up by Cobra and escorted back to jail and within a day Amber turns herself back in and is bonded out by a well known Bail Bonds not affiliated with Cobra.
Jump a head again to Tommy’s and Hank Sr. fight and LE is called to the Tyler street address again. We find out that Nay Nay is hanging with Misty during a time that the Croslin are under LE microscope.
IMO all of this is relevant to the hidden truth and the secrets that people have and are and have been willing to keep.

I have seen that said alot about Crystal and Ron talking about geting back together and no one has ever showed any proof of it. Makes me believe it was added to a theory and somehow became a fact. jmo

It is just a thought…

The biggest lie was to claim stranger abduction because she doesn’t know what happened to Haleigh. Next, I think she lied about setting that back door up so no one would suspect her. (after all, she was considered the responsible party). Next, I think she told a lot of theories of what coud of possibly been and those were taken as lies.

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There is only one version of the truth! Even if it’s painfull one does NOT lie in this type of scenario where we have a missing/murdered child if they have nothing to hide.

There are parents who had abducted children who DON’T LIE cause they don’t know what happened and they were NOT held accountable. However, when you see one with many diff versions of the truth, how can you entertain the idea that she is lying cause she doesn’t KNOW?

sAME thing with casey…if it was an accident..and she panicked..lost her mind..she would have come clean a long time ago.

If it were accident with misty…come clean a long time ago.

Misty doesnt’ know…but panicked and set up an abduction scene because she was scared…she would have come clean a long time ago.

Since, I don’t know or an accident is far far better then being suspected of having something to do with haleighs missing or caylees death.

With no confessions 2 years later for caylee and 15 months with haleigh, both with a lot of prison time to clear their heads and come clean…

I’d say the lies are to cover the ugly truth of what they know…sticking it out and hope for the best.

Tobias and Jaba, yes I totally agree. Texas Mom, yes, those are all things to consider and I hope these people would not take their revenge for someone else out on Haleigh. I know they are all druggies and liars, but I just can’t picture them doing something to Haleigh over it. Tommy I can, especially in a drug induced craze. Remember, he says on the jail tape he needs his pills!! He is trying to convince himself that he knows what he does while on them. (that speaks volumes to me and says he doesn’t want to remember what he knows he did).

I am not buying that they where getting back togther either, but, I could imagine that some would be upset if they knew that Ron and Crystal where talking about working things out (-$ back pay?) and Misty was throwing a kink in the plan.

Cathyjo did you get the foot tatoo ?

NO lINDA,THO I AM DYING TO SEE IT,I SEARCHED GOOGLE,YOU NAME IT?

i never had trouble finding things,lol till now.

She could tell LE she was scared of ron and made some things up so he wouldn’t harm her or leave her, and they would have bought it based his attitude and history.

I can believe he had her under his thumb big time. Its the way he rolls.

But as I’m sure she’s thought of, been told by lawyers and jail buddies and family, tell it ALL and at least get to even on the truth meter.

Seems like the easy way out to say ” I don’t know” and let somebody prove it. Our system will attempt to do that.

Cathy Jo, I forgot about that. Yes, I believe Hank Sr. was pulling his, ‘I know Tommy didn’t anything wrong’ routine on her. Her own mother says she thinks Misty is lying. Then GMHollars makes her out to be someone who likes sexual abuse. This whole family is sick.

I think Misty beleives that if she tells what really happened, no one is going to beleive her. It is much much easier to stage the abduction, keep Ron loving her, and then tell the police to look elsewhere in hopes they will catch Tommy on their own. Lord knows she has given them enough hints.

Here you go Jill posted it this moring only pr

jillphoto@live.com

oblem is we can’t be sure it’s Chelsea foot .

well.if its king tuts paw what the devil is he doing with Haleighs name covering his whole foot?

no pun intended period believe me but Megan Maxwell from newport tn is missing,was my daughters neighbor?? Maybe i should go down and get her name tattooed on my foot so they caN FIND HER? WTH??

If it not one thing its another.

I think too Jen,thats why she sounded the way she did in the 911,she may have even been staging the scene when ron pulled in that night,and she feared for her life,i just don’t know,my theory changes every second of the day anymore! sooooooo i explore all of em!

oh,ok sorry Adams,brb!

Jenm,

That sounds plausible, it really does. But in totality with all I’ve seen or read, its to easyan escape with things like the 911 call, the timing, etc…but you have a line of thinking that would be hard to prove without significant forensics and a corroborating story someone is willing to swear to in court.

We should see some movement on tommy tomorrow that may gives a little ‘fix’ so to speak.

stagine i mean the brick and tearing out closets etc..

Thanks CathyJo!

Why do we believe LDT test when they have proved to be wrong time and time again . The GF of Jessica Lungford didn’t pass the test maybe they could have found her alive before she sufficated . And does anyone remember the game show that came out on tv.? that show didn’t last to long their test results caused alot of pain from people who tested wrong. The show shut down.

If I believe that she wasn’t home: I can understand misty being gone theory and when she gets home, one kid is gone. She did panic, anyone would have. She left kids unattended and one was ‘stolet’.

She has her phone off. But suppose he can’t get ahold of her and comes home early and finds the kids all alone or calls his mom to go by and finds them alone, you don’t think her ass is grass at that point with ron?

How would she know he wouldnt send somebody else over.

Didn’t he say he called tommy to go over? Don’t know where proof of him saying that is, but I think I recall that being reported. Anyway, tommy says he went over and then recants. So why wouldn’t he do what ron asks. Did ron tell anyone tommy said no to ron? Did tommy ever say he talked to ron that night and didn’t he report back to ron.

Did tommy go by and have to help misty with something that happened?

I was watching the VA test that Misty had taken for Tim Miller. At about 6:00 the examiner asks her if she had anything to do with Haleigh going missing and MIsty replies no, nothing to do with her going missing. On the screen of the computer you can see the result change from something (can’t read it) but when she answers that question it then says TRUTH.

I had never noticed that before. To bad they didn’t film the screen the entire time so we could see what she was being deceptive on and what she was being truthful on.

yw Adams,did you get it?

Misty said she thought ron came home or had haleigh?

How does that jive? She said she was home all night and she thinks ron comes home between 1030 and 2 and took haleigh somewhere?

That’s strange. Hadn’t heard that before.

Misty was caught in the middle of her brothers, nasty cousin, and her love for Ron.
Keep it real…(lol) Any trail would lead back to Ron b/c of his history and/or connections, which was something that Ron knew should definitely NOT BE REVEALED unless done very carefully and confidentially so it wouldn’t become a media circus of drugs instead of Haleigh.(which is why Geraldo Rivera got kicked off the property!!) It would have given away any leads that they had, and also make some very major dangerous folks very very angry.
You don’t talk. If u talk, then everyone starts tumbling down.

CJ the one I watched this morning was from clickorlando. I don’t remember where I had watched it originally but I had never really noticed the screen being shown with the results. Maybe I was listening more then watching back then.

your daughters missing and the back door was propped open?
oh ok…..well gee calm down lets go look under the beds again!
not likely anybody put a brick there to carry her out? sheeeeeesh

lol WhyLie,understand that,I do it often,lol but was just saying so you know there is one SOMEwhere,lol

I think Ron was busy getting rid of pills at the time the 911 was going on. He knew they would be all over that MH and area so his stash was going to be found. If he was concerned about finding Haleigh and who took her he would have gotten his gun and gone off searching for the guy. jmo

When you speak of the excop theory, I think you are refering to something that someone awhile back stated as a theory…only forgot to state t as an opinion, not fact. Ojsglove, was that you that thought that? can’t remember.but do know that it was an opinion of someones. also, just for the record: It was not a tv guy that came to the mh that evenng, It was the AC guy.

Neighbors saw Haleigh at approx 5pm riding her bike, just as Misty had stated. Ggma Sykes confirmed she saw both children when she delivered the laundry. Tommy places himself and kids there at approx 5pm also, and neighbors corraborated this.

Misty stated that when she “woke up” she maybe thought that Haleigh had gotten up because Ron had gotten home from work, something like that, I remember.

One thing I am puzzled about, I know that Tommy recanted his phone story, but I am positive I remember that phone records confirmed that Ron called the Croslin house. (didn’t PCSO confirm this? Or did they lie too?) I always knew there was no way Tommy went out there for that reason. I say he made that up also for the reason to place himself there at that time (10pm) in case a neighbor saw or heard anything. (because he really was there)

If ron can sneak an assault rifle in the pen, then I’d say that makes ron King.

I’m afraid though, that SWAT or ERT’s would have to cut him in half for having illegal contraband in the bunk area:)

exactly right Looking,why would Haleighs blood relatives lie? to protect another imo……..when they had too!
Misty would have told AS had been there?

Ron is not guilty of harming or killing his daughter an that is why he is in general population IMO.The case is heading in the right direction IMO and Tommy and Misty will be held accountable for their lies.
I truly believe that their still is a whole lot of unknown players that have came to light since the search at the river.
It was just a matter of time and the guilty would let down their guard and made a little mistake and LE was waiting and watching all along.
SKB has stated Tommy helped and Misty is guilty of child endangerment. Tommy’s lawyer has stated Tommy is innocent. Misty’s attorney has also sated Misty is not the one and LE needs to look else where. Joe attorney claims his client is innocent and is being framed.
Cystal’s attorney claims the family is cooperating with LE and does not wish to be contacted.
LE basically discredited SKB claim that he solved the case, but, did not deny that Tommy and others are talking now.

maybe to set Tommy up too? get him there!

I mean its obvious every one of them are lying and i am gonna investigate every one of them and their actions too? none of us know whose innocent and who isn’t?

misty was getting progressively better with her amnesia of who was there 10 days after the fact.

Any theory so specific as to person form a specific career and specific loss of life in their own, you would think it would be more than just a feeling.

cathyjoe, will you emal t to me too? my addy is
tmt4lb@yahoo.com. thanks sista’!

Tobias you are correct

I have to go and do not want to.LOL
I would love to see where this convo goes today. BBL and catch up.

sent me!

good morning! (still morning here in CA)

interesting that ron has opted for a jury trial for his drug charges. it is often counseled that people facing felony criminal charges should always opt for a jury trial, rather than a trial before the judge.

however, it has been said that the drug bust itself was a “tool” to further along the haleigh case. if so, i wonder about the possibility of ron’s jury trial being used as a “tool” as well. perhaps playing on the sympathies of the jury in the drug case, as the poor father of the missing 5 yr old, will, in their way of thinking, sway the jury’s opinion, bring lesser charges, or a lesser sentence.

jmo

jmo

I have heard all the 911 tapes ,even the enhanced versions I have never heard him yell for Haleigh. I heard him yelling at Misty. I heard him moving around in the mh. Looking for his phone to call more important people. I dont hear Junior at all which I find odd. Why even hang up on 911 there are two phones Rons and Mistys. jmo

Toughcookie that is exactly what it is!!!! I hope the jury sees through his BS.

good point Tough! prolly!

and also Tobias,i thoought tn said he was on phone with her during mistys 911 call?

they sure made it known JO WAS JUST IN TOWN????? not at the mh……..just in town?imo

CathyJo63 said,
in May 12th, 2010 at 11:34 am

Looking,me too…I am leaning toward no one saw her after she got off the school bus?
why didn’t AS or Misty mention it before that she came with laundry,cause they had too?? for what reason? to protect somebody?
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then why isn’t LE’s time line earlier? So I guess Capt Schauland lied about Ron picking her up and the neighbors lied about seeing her outside and since the AC guy is cleared(who is not Ron’s cousin’s ex)he must of lied to LE also, and Santos who doesn’t know the difference between Chelsea and Misty lied about Haleigh getting off the bus, and Chelsea lied about her getting off the bus..

vaq,i don’t care about that,my point was,its very important to know who had been there,why did AS or Misty not say,yes AS saw Haleigh that day till what 9 days later??

and ron lied that he got her off????

Tommy said he wanted a judge. What’s he thinking? A judge is trained more at judging guilt or innocence than the average lay person jury member.

I’m sure their is a reason he thinks that it will be better for him.

If ron is a plant, he sure is going the extra mile to find out what happened.

I would think that they’d want to have rons trial after misty if he was in on this dealing sting so when misty is done, he just walks.

He can’t hide the fact of being in on it if he is actually on trial.

And how is being in gen pop going to help him find Haleigh or what happened to her?

A prisoner who knew anything about what happened is going to police to cut a deal for themselves rather than give it to ron for free.

Police can gather jail talk about it, if any, through their snitches. And pipeline, they don’t need ron doing it in a place where they can’t really protect him. They would be liable if he got hurt.

Thanks Cathyjoe! Yer the mom wth the bomb!!! no wait…yer the bomb! lol

Here’s a picture of the tattoo for those that missed it..

http://imm.io/tpo

*cathyjo* ~

i’ve always said “truth is shorter then fiction”…in other words, much of the time, when so many details are added to something; its usually a sign that its a lie.

jmo

but forgot the one person who did see Haleigh? got disconnected there,sorry

thats exactly right Tough,thats my motto too,i woulkd have way more respect for ron if he said,I am so sorry but yes,i did drugs,i sold them too……then i wouldn’t ? him?

Cathy Joe, Ron does not lie. (atleast not in my mind) oh, and Mizz Nancee’s) So, from now on, let it be known, it is the law of the blog that Ron the king does not lie. Thank you. (lol) geez am i brainwashed, or what?

Gotta quit sending my boy boxers and $$, and those chocolate chip cookies and fancy imported waters. Not to mention the cases of bud.

*Now seriously, what about Miss perfect Chelsea with her statement of seeing Ron pick up Haleigh? She even included some bogus thing about Ron having his window rolled up, so she couldn’t see Haleigh after she got in the truck with Ron! ?? (makes me think of the…Blankets!! Why include something about a window being rolled up? (But she def. stated on Nancy Grace that it was Ronald who picked her up.) If she states it was Ronald who picked her up, why does she think its pertinent info to say something about windows?

Cathy, Thats what really could have happened too. Someone came looking for their drugs that Ron or Misty stole and Haleigh gets knocked around. Then when Ron calls at 8 she tells him and he calls Tommy to go help Misty with everything. jmo

I admit, with ron, at first and even now, feel sorry he lost a kid, that has to be awful no matter how ‘hard’ you are.

For me, its just the way he walks. Anyone trying to be that bad ass with his background usually just aint that bad ass. If he knew you’d killed or took his kid, like any father, he’d find the wherewithall to break your neck or die trying. But all the other bravado, I’m not sure its not just the peacock effect. Show big and hope the threat goes away and leaves.

I mean who has he beat up? Teenage girls, possibly, Haleigh(per dcf) possibly, tommy?

ron does not equal ronbo, first blood part 5.

Chelsea is getting caught in her lies as well. I am starting to believe she knoews alot more than she wants LE to find out. It may very well include her husband, Timmy. It is fact that Misty trusted and looked up to Timmy;not Tommy.

oops! knows

right Looking,and especially if thats her tatoo,who does that,they’re not related?

ronbo!rofl
and too,his mugshot all smiling!

Good reason for Timmy never to come back to Florida. I still wonder what he was going to go to Federal prison for? I wonder if this was when they lived in Flagler? I havent seen any arrests for him so maybe he was 17 at the time? jmo

My question is why is the tattoo on her foot? Does she feel the need to hide it?

right looking,exactly my point? and not even related!

also Chelsea pointed to the same spot they searched before anyone knew?

is the middle finger toe longer then the thumb toe?
If it is I don’t wanna see it.

Right I think Chelsea has always Known more and the tatoo is confirmation jmo

I have watched both cases since day one and get so annoyed with the system and protecting “their” rights. What happened to the dead girl’s rights? Where are the rest of the families, aunts, uncles, etc. No one can come forth with information? If they could pull it off they should somehow give them a truth serum/roofie cocktail” Wait for them to start taking, ask questions, write down the details, investigate and put them all on death row. They would not remember the questioning and it would finally put an end to this nightmare.

missed you to Cathy, been readin but stayin on the downlow lol

*ronfan* ~ i realize you were asking *robin*, but i have been following the darlie routier case since the beginning, have even written her in jail. that case is something else…

Evening everyone,lol i just woke up.I was tired,having some health issues.

JenM, I really under stand trama shock.So happey your alive an posting today with us.That had to be awful being Kidnapped,an i do belive some minds can block things out that are tragic.

I do think thats a theory to think about,the one you wrote,i just wanted to know what time it got dark in Fla that time of yr,even if Mrs Sykes had of went by,she still could have ran out.An then again we dont know how far Mrs Sykes would go in covering either.But she very well could have went missing ,during the day,an Sykes never went by,could have even got the day mixed up.

I know we were all crazy when our 2 yr old was murdered(my sisters grand baby) so we forgot days, times, So i could see how she could have gotten her days mixed up about taking the cloths over,or maybe she did,an got her times mixed up.Who knows,this case,with out evidence ,its trying.

I know Tommy said they smoked a joint earlier in the evening,.when they were outside.An children will slip off,ive seen it happen before.I havent heard they were parting that night,just dont know.But anythings possible.An children can pull chairs up to door,an unlock them,if they want to.They are so smart these days.

Misty saying Joe ,an Tommy molested her,i wonder at what age,an their age differences.Its somthing she must remember well.Could one of those men have touched Haliegh wrong an she ran an hid,i would have ran off at 5 yrs old,that would have scared me,at 5,an could one of them have slipped her out,if Misty passed out it is so possible.Its a lot to think about thats for sure.I also wonder if the AC/heater man was working on the unit,an used the back door,not locking it back.Or was he just their chilling,maybe somking pot.

C~A i didnt see your post at 5:53 Am,i posted,an left.I have really followed the Caylee case,an i do believe she is guilty.I havent had a chance to read all the back post from today,ill get to them later.Im not totaly awake yet lol. I blogg on another site on Caylee,an about her bio mom,getting tried convicted,an going down for the what she did to Caylee.But we can chatt here,about it.

So what are you all going over now.I know someone has a hearing soon.Tommy right??

Jaba: I missed ur 12:09 post, my question exactly: What is Junky Joe’s alibi? Ummm, why isn’t Chelsea blabbing about that, like she seems to blab all her knowledge of EVERYONE ELSE’S whereabouts?

Oh, Joe, what were u doing? Taking a cooking class? Finishing up ur volunteer work at the local Y? Passing a good time at Spinner’s? Washing the Van? Washing the Blankets? Making a meatloaf out of deermeat?

lol @ronfan ~ too funny!

No answers or substanitive statements, just shock value statements for attention.

CathyJo, that’s my point, he was just acting along, u know, playing the part…

And the reason he got mad at Geraldo was cuz Geraldo was asking questions that were probably truthful. Watch the look on Ron’s face when Geraldo asks him if he is an informant…That’s like asking someone if they want to be killed. Go back and look at the video, even his family members make a face when he asks Ron that. I remember that striking me as BINGO!! He’s an informant, and now Geraldo opened his big mouth and now everyone’s gonna know.

*looking*~

yes, i saw that as well. that woman is deeply disturbed, incredibly evil. perhaps it would be better for her to have to live each day with her crime…i certainly hope she doesn’t have the possibility of parole after 25…

i think the prison sentence for someone like her may just drive her mad…i hate to be cruel, but this woman will certainly suffer inside at the hands of other inmates…don’t know if that’s justice, but i’m glad they have someway of making her pay…

jmo

I believe since Chelseas timeline is not definite ,but she said she was up late. Joe was there too. If she said he was there at a certain time (LATE)when her and Timmy went to bed that gives him a time line. If she stayed up until midnight or 1 there would really a tough timeline for Joe to do all of this and get back before Misty called Timmys. jmo

Jaba at 12:22: he wants to be in GP so he can get someone from outside to kick some a** probably on Princess Joe. And, it’s a great place to make friends and meet people. Good times, good times..

I heard they accepted that because if she went to trial for the death penilty the horrendous things she did would come out and the family would have to suffer hearing what she did. I doubt she will get probation ever. The family just needs to stay on top of her probation hearings. jmo

But cops are believing gma sykes’ visit at 730.

Maybe they have cell phone pings of hers or whoever was driving her? Does she even have a cell phone?

Had to be dark by 8 at the latest in february, right. It was getting dark when gma left. Kids were there, safe and sound for the time being.

And I don’t see how gma sykes couldn’t remember when she was last at the MH, she had to get a call the next morning about Haleigh being gone and remembered being there 12 hours or less earlier. She seemed lucid and with it on the tape I’ve seen of her. Fishy….:)

Jaba it gets dark at 6pm during this time of the year.

Sunset was at 6;11 on Feb.9th temps were in the upper 50 lower 60. HGM and I did alot of research on the weather at the time and on gators. jmo

Ronfan–I followed the Darlie Routier case and read the books. I believe she is innocent, but the prosecution and the police will never admit they made a mistake. They blamed her from day one, and never looked in any other direction. I think Darin is more suspicious than Darlie ever was. The media had a lot to do with convicting her with the silly string at the grave incident. There is evidence that could exonerate her (DNA, fingerprints that can’t be matched, and the bloody sock in the alleyway) but the prosecutor does not want this to go in front of a judge to help in her appeal. She is on Death Row and has been for a long time. Her case happened shortly after Susan Smith and I think that had a lot to do with the way this case was investigated, in much the same way the Caylee Anthony has influenced the Haleigh investigation. I think if they execute Darlie they will be executing an innocent woman, but they have executed an innocent person before in Todd Willingham. JMO

Ronfan,

Look, I enjoy long walks in a prison yard like the next person, but ron had the chance to kill joe, a long time to do it, and didn’t. He aint got the killin’ skills of someone like you or me. You can take that to the bank!!:)

Looking for Justice: Hi, MADJGNLAW emailed me a copy of the photo. Here is what she said:

“This is the picture that was shown on scared monkeys a few days ago. Someone on twitter yesterday said they saw the picture in Chelsea’s my-space account.”

I can email you a copy of you would like: jillphoto@live.com

ronfan said,in May 12th, 2010 at 12:45 pm Robin: what do u think of the Darlie Routier case? I am familiar with the Sells case,too.

I also have thought the same thing about Ron aluding to the Sheffield thing, and especially after he was jailed when he said to his mother something about Crystal “moving” and 2 or 3 people being involved and moving all over ie to Montana. Strange. I go from Cousin Joe to M. Sheffield. back and forth. I still can’t let go of that Sheffield link. But I have always questioned Cousin Joe mainly because of his timeline and the HALEIGH SIGHTING IN TN.

That was a theory of mine as well,Ron,till i got bent on my everyone’s flibbin theory,lol
Why did it take cs so long to get there,dunno if iut’s true but heard cs and mg stiopped to open a bank acct on the way or the day before…….something,lol and in the sheppard smith video they look guilty as sin!

and js saying,they can’t touch him in ky?

one thing that has always bothered me in this case is the location of the van. lindsy’s van was “on loan” to chelsea. why ? (did they ever say?) thinking it was pretty convenient to have the van there where joe was staying, the keys moved around, and the van parked differently then chelsea left it. was this, in part, to set-up cousin joe? or was he simply just a part of the whole thing?

i know that LE cleared him…but when i watched him on tv before, giving his statement with his mom & lawyer by his side, i felt he was very suspicious in behavior, and especially with that little sobbing performance. that always made me question his authenticity.

jmo

omg in heaven Jaba,my husbands best friend was like that,add alohol,get an instant A$$ hole…….years of it like that and he went to prison 3 yrs and got out and wasn’t a week he was killed on the graveyard in front of his mom by the state police! He had a knife! he was gosh don’t remember,been 10-12 yrs i guess but he was around 30!

lol *cathyjo* ~ true, true

not to mention Tobias,ron is only “disappointed” in misty? well gee ya reckon?

maryd said,
in May 12th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
When I woke up this morning one thought about a comment Misty made came to mind (don’t know why), it was one of her first interviews she was with Lisa. She mentions during her tearful explanation of what took place that night “I’m only seventeen years old”. There was no reason for her to add that. What came to mind is she is making an excuse for her behavior. She is alluding to a weakness in her judgment. She may even be hinting in a subconscious way how much younger she is than Ron. Of course looking for sympathy is possible too.
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I think someone told M that she would not be charged as an adult because of her age. Out of everyone involved who would she protect?

Homespain, Thank you for understanding exactly what I was stating and for being a voice of reason. It does become tiresome when too many of the comments/replies don’t actually concern Haleigh (or the families) anymore. It was not rude to point it out. Those writers have become pen pals and I have nothing against them being friends. I also understand that reading about a blogger’s background helps to understand how and why they are approaching a new fact or angle in this sad case. (A million people can see one concrete occurence but they will all view it in one million different ways.) Those letters pointing out their takes are illuminating AND relevant.

There is no need to further fuel an angry or self righteous person’s fury by perpetuating an ongoing slapfest online. THAT is what I meant when alluding to looking into a crazed beast’s eyes; instead of furthering the name calling, just don’t look the dog in the eye and slowly back away.(Real life advice, by the way. I once worked for the Post Office!) Crisis avoided. More room for real talk. It seems as if some of the writers perceived that THEY personally were the beast I was speaking of.

There were so many other messages ahead of mine, but my comments were made after reading a dozen too many tit for tat responses in those baiting and taunting sessions. (I wasn’t the only one who felt this way) Even Jan and Simon had to come online recently and chastise those who were making it so unpleasant for others.

For whatever reason, most of the ensuing comments afterwards have pertained directly to the case and for that, I am grateful. (Don’t you worry, though, I am not claiming credit for redirecting the conversation!) I DO appreciate various thoughts concerning the why, the who, the how, and so on.

Lfj,

So 6:11, dark. Gma sees kids at 730 in the dark.

Slipping out into darkness doesn’t add up. Why would her family say she was afraid of the dark if that wasn’t true?

If the family had said she used to go out all the time in the dark, I’d be more of a buyer on that.

So, tommy leaves before gma sykes comes by, right around darkness. He goes home until the ron call? Is that right? That’s the last official, at the his trailer, evidence of tommy being somewhere specific at 9 pm?

Tommy goes home after getting high with misty and eats some ding dongs or ho ho’s and takes a nap.

Then from 9-1030 is blank but misty says she was up until then.

So I say we are back to the 10:30-2 open window.

I think mistys bed time number is when whatever happened, happened. 1030

Maybe misty wanted to crash and Haleigh wouldn’t lay down and things got ugly. Not sure.

That 4.5 hour window needs some closure.

Imo

Hi – I know that LE has said the timeline mystery begins after 7 or 8. However, here is what I wonder (and this is JMO – these thoughts are just as some of you say – hinky to me)

1. The “who picked her up” mystery. Even Theresa says she picked Haleigh up that day. Based on what I have read, I think Ronald might have picked up Haleigh and that the neighbors, etc… mistook Chelsea for Misty. (Chelsea was the one who slapped her child – nice)

2. The AC guy saw Haleigh. What repair person pays attention to the kids being around?

3. Gma comes by to drop off clothes and sees kids on porch eating at 6:30 or 7:00. As Tobias pointed out – it is dark and chilly (especially for Floridians). I know this has no relevance but what did she “cook” for dinner? We hear about her cooking dinner – I would think that detail would be shared.

4. Tommy came by with kids and saw Haleigh. No need to explain why I would question that! (LOL)

Oh well – we will all know soon enough. I want to know Haleigh did not suffer.

Toughcookie:
The van belonged to Tommy and Lyndsy. Hank Sr and Timmy were driving Timmy’s car in the wreck that week-end, so Tommy loaned Timmy the van.

CathyJo63 said,
in May 12th, 2010 at 1:28 pm

ronfan said,in May 12th, 2010 at 12:45 pm Robin: what do u think of the Darlie Routier case? I am familiar with the Sells case,too.

I also have thought the same thing about Ron aluding to the Sheffield thing, and especially after he was jailed when he said to his mother something about Crystal “moving” and 2 or 3 people being involved and moving all over ie to Montana. Strange. I go from Cousin Joe to M. Sheffield. back and forth. I still can’t let go of that Sheffield link. But I have always questioned Cousin Joe mainly because of his timeline and the HALEIGH SIGHTING IN TN.

That was a theory of mine as well,Ron,till i got bent on my everyone’s flibbin theory,lol
Why did it take cs so long to get there,dunno if iut’s true but heard cs and mg stiopped to open a bank acct on the way or the day before…….something,lol and in the sheppard smith video they look guilty as sin!
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RC and TN knew they were being recorded during this jail visit. Why would they say this so everyone could hear if he was “undercover”?
imo

so, to my way of thinking, the location of the van, and the timing of it being @ tim & chelsea’s was legitimate…which means, if the van was truly used to “transport” haleigh, it wasn’t a premeditated thing.

i think whatever happened that night, was some kind of accident-gone-bad situation. otherwise tommy would have “borrowed back” lindsy’s van.

jmo

I do too Tough,always have,i don;t think anyone,not even the worst ones of the bunch planned to harm Haleigh??

So Tobas it was dark by 730 in Putnam. An if Mrs Sykes did go there at 7:30 Misty was sober/well Tommy said she smoked earlier.But She wasnt stoned,according to Sykes.The children were eating,an Misty helped her,with the cloths,them putting shirts on the children.

So that would put Mrs Sykes,if she arrived at 7:30 an went through what she said happened,what it would have taken another 3o or more min. an then Mrs sykes left? she had to get out,take cloths out,Haliegh ran out an kissed her,Misty came out an helped take cloths in,they put shirts on childen she may have chatted,went back to car,an left. So what say she left around 8/810 ?

did he take a ld test? I heaRD HE DID BUT NOT CLEAR??

Toughcookie at 1:31!!! LOL!! Little Joey!!
I agree. I love how he says “I can’t imagine what their going through”, then breaks the sound barrier right after and says IDIDN’TDOIT.” HAHAHA! He didn’t even take a freakin’ breath. It was an auditory “run-on-sentence!”

mmm, BODY LANGUAGE!! Talk about a voice analysis test candidate!

oh i guarantee you he can imagine,we all can IMAGINE,hes a prime candisate for imagining i assume,lol

As I’ve said before, I wished ron had used the bravdo to really protect his kids. A 17 year old he’s dated for 6 months, who’s been missing for the prior 3 days wasn’t the best baby sitting pick. Even calling in sick or dropping them at his moms and being a few hours late and staying later would have been the best play that night. Hindsight is 20/20.

I wonder if gma sykes called before she came over? How far does she live away? Was she in the area? Suppose no one was home? Did she call ron and was told to go by the mh and that misty was there. Did he ask her to go by the MH?

*ronfan* ~ yes…something about him sticks with me. i have always had a bad feeling about him from the start. its as if, even if he’s not guilty of this, he’s guilty of something…

jmo

ronfan,

Ok, so you know ron, tell me this: does ron have num-chuck skills? Be honest.

maryd: In that same early tape of Misty, did u catch when she is talking about being new in town and the only friends she has and then says “I won’t be hanging around them anymore”…and Lisa nods her head in agreement?? Weird, huh? Proves NayNays involvement as well, imo. Never thought of that until I saw that, I had brought that up a long time ago, but no one commented on it. I’m still curious about the other side anyway.

Hope at 1:46: Because Ron doesn’t care, and loves dropping clues and hints that r so obvious like the elephant in the room. JMO.
Remember his interview with Dana Treen, (who also was THE only reporter he agreed to talk to) he stated he hadn’t changed his mind, he’d kill whoever it was!!! Now that takes some ding-a-lings to say that, if u ask me.

tobias

yuppers I find that weird as well. Not running around yelling her name and looking everywhere and anywhere for her till LE got there is not something I would think a “normal” parent would do in that situation

where ron,what video? she won’t be hanging around them?

and straight out the back door Beast? a normal person would!

Does anyone know if it was said the children took baths,that night,was jr clean.Could Haliegh have been bathing,an playing in the tub,while Misty was doing what ever,an she got sleepy,slid down in the tub,An when Misty called her for bed,Haliegh had went to sleep in the tub,an drowned.Misty paniced,an they dumped the body.

Wonder what tub,the children took baths in,the little one,or the big one.iF JR played in the yard that evening,he would have got dirty,was he clean,when the Law came. Just a thought,i remember when mine were little,they got sleepy during their baths,after playing out

Another thing people can misjudge,is a lick on a child head.I knew of one dieing here. The little one, got a lick from a fall,an they put the baby to bed,the little feller died. No foul play involved. We all knew if we baby fell,if the bump was large,take the baby/child to the hospital,if small watch it ,an make sure they didnt get larthic.Not to let them go to sleep for a few hrs.To be on the safe side.
doors.Just a thought! But fracturs on a child skull doesnt take much force,an even a hard fall can cause one.Or Lick

but why hide it Jan?

Cathy lol them numbchucks will do it every time lol

lol Jan,everybody says he walks funny,maybe thats why,ouchhhhhhhhhh

not to mention TN still though she was hiding under the bed and misty and ron overlooked her so she brought an 8×10 pic to show them what she looked like,dang she can hide good!

Jan57,

The cleanliness angle, good questions. Accidental drowning. Never thought of that.

Hi Everybody, you guys are so funny!! Haven’t had time to be around for the last week or so but got to thinking that tomorrow is May 13, aren’t Tommy and Ron due in court for pretrial hearings tomorrow?

right Tobias,and who’d think to look under a board for a missing gun and if somebody stole it why hide it at the place you stole it from to begin with…..big dummies……

Right CathyJo-an they just happen to be ON THE FLOOR like, you can’t be under the mattresses

it’ll be numb withought chuck…rofl

or maybe chuck wiffout numb,roflmao

whose ye chucky now? rofl,i am sorry but couldn’t pass on that one!

On the 911 tape you never hear Ron asking Misty…”Did you check outside?”, “Did you check with the neighbors?”, etc. He said they called 911 within minutes of getting home…..but neither of them appear to check the normal places you would check….or question each other about what area has been searched. But BOTH of these geniuses DO manage to look “under the bed” aka MATTRESS for her and make sure LE knows that. Good job Ron and Misty! Now, did you look down the sink, under floor boards, look in the frig, and check your pockets while you were looking under the mattresses? IDIOTS!

JB: not my boy. That’s why he’s building up muscle. He’s no fool. He knows he has to get in peak shape. He did look different, u know.

Cathy i dont know,why hide anything at this point.It was just a thought,an a 17 yr old ,at the time just doesnt think like us. Could be she thought Ron would have a fit.

I dont even know if Ron,or Misty was involved.She could have been happy to be home,an really was exausted from being out those 3 days. It takes a day or to to recooperate from a bindge.An many sleep alot,while the bodys trying to heal its self from the assault,of drug use,lack of normal sleep.An Ron could have really been out trying to make a living.No man goes to work thinking itll be his last time to see his child.

I watch these young couples around here.They break up,an go back together.They call over,an over,love talk one min,fussing ,an hanging up the next. I doupt it was 90 calls,more like 20.

investigators need to ask what Ron habits were on night shift,an at the store,did he usualy stop,after work.

I know Hank SR .said Ron had just rotated to the night shift that week.If i was on a construction job 12 hr shift..I stoped at the store on the way home for a beer,or two,an smokes.Maybe candy for my son.

I would dring one,or two when i got home,an relax for bed.Because i was always wound up from work,an being tired,overly tired,i couldnt go straight to bed.So i dont see anything off with the calls,or the store stop.

He could have called Tom telling him to go tell Misty to turn the phone back on,it could have went dead,an needed charging,she may not have had her charger with her,leaving it at where ever she stayed at Sunday.Didnt she just go back to Rons Sunday morning/mid day?Maybe Ron just got harrasing with his questions about her weekend,an she just cut it off,pouting,because he wouldnt let it go.

I made a 911 call here on Dec. 2008 for an car wreck. Woke me up at around midnight. The guy slide over the hill and hit my tree. He was pretty dazed. The dogs were barking so Iknow he was out for about 5 min. before he gotout of the car. I called and gave all the info before the dispatcher could ask me anything.
Isaid I need the police and an ambulance at –my address there has been a wreck the guy was knocked out and says his knees hurt. all she could ask me was if he was bleeding. I still cant get over that one. I said no. He was alright but the tree wasnt. LOL I see the 911 as being all wrong for the situation. jmo

You’re right about that Jan,I wasn’t thinking but i guess i just figure if an accident occurs why lie,but yea i think she was and is terrified of rons temper!

Tobias: Joe was NO stranger to Ron. IIRC, Ron hated Joe. Joe claimed the assault rifle was his, and the fight ensued. If u have 2 people both laying claim to the gun,(Joe and Ron)then it’s got to be involved in a drug deal.
Remember Ron insisted there WAS NOT A FIGHT. Another “Geraldo Moment”, But u could tell by the look on his face that he was p***d. Like he didn’t want that being exposed.

I thought it was confirmed later that there really was a fight, but then Chelsea ALSO leaked it out on NG!! She said it directly and the words came pouring out of her mouth!! I was so happy!! That in itself proves Joe is involved!! She said it casually like it was public knowledge, go back and look at it. Man, dumb as bricks.

MAYBE SHE PAID RENT,A BOARDER,I DUNNO!

right tough,like poor ole Jo,looks suspicious no matter what,God forbid he’d have to give someone CPR,theyd swear he sucked the life out of em’lol

i still believe he’s the scapegoat even if rons not involved,assuming even if misty and her whole family is in on it,

I don’t know if anyone has seen the movie “The Woodsman” starring Kevin Bacon, who is an SO that is paroled after 12 years in prison for molesting young girls. One line stuck out at me. A cop said that he don’t understand why they let SOs out of prison, “because it means we have to catch you all over again”. No truer words have been spoken, as well see time and time again. But most SOs vow to never be caught again, so they have become slicker,so to speak. They usually leave no living witnesses, so most of their victims end up dead, and sometimes it takes years to undercover the child’s remains. JMO

robin said,in May 12th, 2010 at 3:25 pm I don’t know if anyone has seen the movie “The Woodsman” starring Kevin Bacon, who is an SO that is paroled after 12 years in prison for molesting young girls. One line stuck out at me. A cop said that he don’t understand why they let SOs out of prison, “because it means we have to catch you all over again”. No truer words have been spoken, as well see time and time again. But most SOs vow to never be caught again, so they have become slicker,so to speak. They usually leave no living witnesses, so most of their victims end up dead, and sometimes it takes years to undercover the child’s remains. JMO

wowww Powerful words! Never seen it but i will now!

OMG,I hope i got the name right,if not i am sorry chad!

Cathy, that would be my guess too or someone at that bar he was at before he left. He never picked up his check for the week and had no money. Phone went dead too.jmo

RIGHT,tOBIAS,i THOUGHT SO,YOU KNOW ME WITH NAMES,I GOT SKEERT I HAD IT WRONG,LOL

But i’d bet it was the family too!

they oughta have a special prison just for SO! Lettem all fight to the death!

chakra7 said,in May 12th, 2010 at 12:46 pm A few days ago I was reviewing past interviews and the one with Jerry (the guy who always saw ron at the busstop) He states specifically that he saw Ron drop Haleigh off that morning He remembers because Ron almost ran into him and his kid by scidding the car. and he states that Ron came over to his house later that afternoon to talk with him about DCF (because Jerrys father was the one investigating Ron)

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Can anyone tell me how to find this video? TIA

Its on you tube somewhere.jmo

hmmmmmmmmm.didn’t know of such a law!

IKETA Thanks, and all your points well taken.

It is interesting to see the case driven dialog here to day, much more fruitful and thoughtful overall.

I found a site that might prove helpful to everyone here trying to milk any information out of what are scant facts. We have the videos and tapes of many players.

“Eyes for Lies blog” and website, offers allot of insight into when people are lying, and warns also to be careful to not be premature and judge people based on just specifics. For example, someone may avert their eyes, or stammer, etc. In other words it can indicate lying but also a person who is telling the truth and is anxious, or feels they are not believed will often act like they are lying. Perhaps studying the authors available information in it’s totality will aide some one here to discover a new truth or lie that so far was missed. It might also substantiate the lie detectors given to all.

For example many think Ron passed his lie detector test. My understanding is he actually did not. Heard that on Levi Page radio show this past weekend. Maybe he passed, maybe not. hope this will be helpful to all in this who are trying to find out the truth for the missing, and the innocent falsely accused.

http://eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2004/11/about-me.html

actually, it has been proven time and time again, that the ones who are actually “registered sex offenders” aren’t as likely to have committed another crime, as the ones out there, who nobody knows about, who haven’t been caught yet.

the way it is here in CA, people who must register as sex offenders, also have to wear a gps tracking device, for the rest of their lives.

also, the definition of “sex offender” is a broad title. when these sex offenders are looked up on the computer by the general public, it does not give details of their cases, it only gives which statute they were convicted under. as a result, there are many, many young people, who would in some states fall under the “romeo & juliet law” (which we don’t have here). they are teens who, in the context of a “loving” relationship, were convicted of these crimes, because they acted on their love physically, either with another underage teen, or in some cases, one just over 18 (legal age here) and one under.

i agree that the timing of this one’s disappearance is suspicious…but perhaps LE is not attaching him to this case because of the reason i stated above. if he was in that category, he would have been no danger to haleigh whatsoever.

jmo

I dont see the video,but the story is in the last link i posted,does it show?

Thanks, CathyJo, you rock!! Interesting article. I know that some people like Misty and think she’s incapable of hurting anyone (by her own words, too). However, even prior to reading some of Peter’s Statement Analyses, I thought that she seemed all over the place with her moods: sometimes up, sometimes down, other times strangely giddy/happy, etc. It all seemed to depend on what she was getting out the situation/how it was affecting her. For example, she was so happy when getting engaged, getting married, selling drugs. .. . not so much when answering questions, giving interviews, and being behind bars. So, this picture of her being at the very least frustrated and at the very most at her tipping point when picking up Haleigh seems to play right into her double-sided character. In other words, most people don’t have such huge mood shifts [even me]. JMO.

Toughcookie–Sexual offender is a broad term and laws need to be set to classify these people. I was referring to child molesters and pedophiles. There is a high recidivism rate for these type of sexual offenders. The laws are lax in this department as we have seen with Donald Sapp. Look at John Couey, who was an RSO. He struck again after spending time in prison, as with countless others that are convicted to get out and take another victim. JMO

maybe Misty was part of the gun thing with Tommy,i’ll believe that!

I never knew ron busted his hand up after the 911 call!

toughcookie said,in May 12th, 2010 at 3:47 pm actually, it has been proven time and time again, that the ones who are actually “registered sex offenders” aren’t as likely to have committed another crime, as the ones out there, who nobody knows about, who haven’t been caught yet.

the way it is here in CA, people who must register as sex offenders, also have to wear a gps tracking device, for the rest of their lives.

Wow,I never knew that either!

YVW Apple!

Bus stop parents, Santos and Mullis, and another grandfather who is a regular but asked to remain nameless, insist it was Misty who picked up Haleigh the last day she went to school—not Ronald.

However, Ronald maintains he picked up Haleigh, drove her home on his lap, then went to work at PDM Bridge Company. Other unidentified witnesses back Ronald’s account, according to sources close to the case, but I never found them.

Madge,the tattoo Chelsea has if infact its her foot,bugs me bad!! she is not even related to Haleigh? and an angel,

>>>>Ronald maintains he picked up Haleigh, drove her home on his lap, <<>>>Other unidentified witnesses back Ronald’s account, according to sources close to the case, but I never found them.<<<<<

why would he want to be the one so bad if he wasn’t?

Ronald Cummings did say that he was seventy-five per cent sure who took Haleigh. He was on television when he said it! One thing about a liar is if you tell one there is another to follow; this is the fact with Ronald Cummings. All those drug charges and arrests, he didn’t do drugs he says.

when you tell the truth.

—- during ronald and misty’s interview with greta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-z6jX8Xvmc misty said xxxxxx”YEAH I GOT UP TO USE THE BATHROOM, I DIDN’T MAKE IT TO THE BATHROOM, UM I WALKED INTO THE LIVINGROOM, NOTICED THE KITCHEN LIGHT WAS ON,xxxxxx and seen the back door opened, and when i seen the back door opened, i had ran back into the bedroom and that is when i noticed she was gone.

—- during her voice analysis misty says ((i tried to get misty’s words right))
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/faith/news-article.aspx?storyid=144034&catid=295
i don’t know why i woke up. xxxxxxI JUST WOKE UP.xxxxxx out of a deep sleep, just woke up. (what what happened when you woke up, what did you notice?)
the kitchen light was on. from where my bedrm is, like, kitchen after all the lights were sht off in the house, when i went to bed, that kitchen light i knew was off whn i went to sleep so xxxxxxTHAT KITCHEN LIGHT WAS JUST GLARING INTO MY BEDROOM. SO I GOT UP AND WENT TO THE KITCHENxxxxxx and that is when i noticed the back door was wide open.

Exactly Chakra…i dunno how i’d forgot all this!

Since she has the tattoo,something just screams Chakra!

There is soooo many inconsistices in what happend begining 24 hours even before she went missing, I have to ask why?

does anyone Know what time Ronalds and Tommy’s hearing is tomorrow??

SEPTEMBER 5-6 2009: HALEIGH CUMMINGS SIGHTING IN WALMART IN ABINGTON, MASS. TIMMY AND CHELSEA CROSLIN RESIDED IN ABINGTON, MASS. DURING THAT TIME. HOWEVER, TIMMY WAS IN SATSUMA, FLORIDA AT THE TIME OF HALEIGHS DISSAPEARANCE; There are documented phone records by LE that show MISTY CALLED HER BROTHER TIMMY CROSLIN “NUMEROUS TIMES” BEFORE RON GOT HOME FROM WORK, and most importantly, BEFORE the 911 CALL WAS PLACED. Remember this story anybody? LE from Satsuma, Fl. traveled TO MASSACHUSETTS and questioned Timmy and Chelsea Croslin for 12-14 hours! The sighting of Haleigh on VIDEOTAPE WAS NEVER SEEN ON THE NEWS. {not even on NG!} Why have other sightings of missing children been released to media/news, BUT NOT HALEIGHS? This story “MAGICALLY” dissapeared, just like HALEIGH. Remember also, the sighting of Haleigh in Tennessee approx. 2-3 DAYS after Haleigh’s dissapearance with a man who fit “Cousin” Joes resemblance? Oh, and of course LE questioned him and he was cleared?! Grandma Croslin lives in Tennessee…ART, I STILL DONT BUY THIS COINCIDENCE, C’mon!!! What did they do, travel up the Eastern Coast with her???!!!!

The thing that strikes me about all of this Ron staying with Misty to keep his enemies close to him:(1) Remember those early videos of Ron walking around with Misty under his arm? To me, he had a possessive look, proud as punch,”she’s mine, look!” This wasn’t any keeping your enemies close deal. (2) Misty told several people she was tired of keeping other people’s kids. She told WBG that she wanted babies with Ronald. She didn’t want to just raise Ronald’s kids. She wanted babies of her own with him. What do you think they stayed up all night talking about the night before Haleigh went missing? Was it that Misty couldn’t deal with Haleigh and wanted babies of her own? (3) TN and GGSykes gushing about Misty. TN gushing in an interview, right before Ronald and Misty got married: “I have never seen Ronald so in love with any other girl, like he has fallen in love with Misty.” (4) Ronald is still warning Misty to not say anything. Why wouldn’t he want the last person known to see his daughter to say anything? (5) What kind of deal was Ronald willing to make to keep Misty? He is still holding on to her, in one way or the other. Haleigh is gone, and Ronald and Misty are still tied to each other. I believe Misty when she says Ronald wanted her to get the tattoo to prove her love for him. I think these two have a sick, twisted thing for each other, and I would like to know just how much a part of this proving their love to each other was involved in Haleigh’s disappearance.

This is just my opinion.

hmmmmm thats weird!

you want me to find out Chakra??

WHY LIE,i DUNNO HOW YOU KEEP IT STRAIGHT,I AM BUMFUZZLED AGAIN,LOL

First want to say to Iketa I’m sorry if I overreacted. I had a father who beat us with his belt if we laughed at night while going to sleep, a first husband who didn’t like me to smile in pictures, and a second husband who got mad if I made jokes…So maybe that’s my issue. I’ve been fighting depression for years and just hate to be denied a little LOL now and than.

Back on subject though. Two things or maybe three. First I noticed in pics of the MH there was a big lamp post outside of it. So, was it really that dark at night?
Second, I was wondering if Haleigh was capable of opening the back door. Someone mentioned the foot print being right off the plank (not sure how true), but it made me wonder if Misty was in a fury that night and Haleigh ran out the back door and Misty caught her at the end of the plank (just a thought).
Third: It is an interesting question whether they did take baths that night. They were playing outside seems they might get pretty dirty.

Rather than copy and paste which makes for a very long comment, here is a link to an article about Ron and Misty and some odd behavior and analysis of it. I don’t necessarily agree with all of the analysis but it is still interesting.

http://eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/02/ronald-cummings-misty-croslin-and.html

right Chakra,whatever happens i know those blankets play a big part in it? somehow?
hm could also be why she washed them?

Sorry Mary (((((((((Mary))))))))about your miserable dad and husbands!

No,they said she couldn’t have opened the door?

Haleigh Cummings Case: Misty Croslin’s Sister-in-Law Chelsea Interviewed in Massachusetts
By Pete Kotz in Child Abuse, missing persons, unsolved Saturday, Sep. 12 2009 @ 12:45PM10 comment(s)
The little girl’s aunt was interviewed in Massachusetts by police
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Misty Croslin’s sister-in-law Chelsea and her husband have now been identified as the couple police interviewed in Massachusetts last weekend concerning the disappearance of her niece, Haleigh Cummings. But in an interview with WAWS-TV in Jacksonville, she doesn’t come off as a woman with something to hide:

On Haleigh’s disappearance:

“I don’t know anything that happened to Haleigh, and I wish to God I did. I wish that I knew where Haleigh was, and I wish I could find her and bring our baby girl home. Cause, she’s 6 years old and she does not to be out in the world without us.”

On the unwanted scrutiny her family is now receiving:

“We’ve now been thrown into the spotlight of this, were known as the Cape Cod couple. I mean, just to give us a name, this is nothing I ever in my life expected to have to go through. Its obviously not Haleigh’s fault I’m going through this, but I just don’t understand why I got thrown into this so hard.”

On her sister Misty’s possible involvement:

“Until somethings proven, were not going to believe it. Because we believe Misty. We know how good and great she is with our kids and she has 6 of her own nieces and nephews. She is one of the best people with children out there…”

Misty Croslin dropped out of school in the 6th grade. Her sister doesn’t think she’s smart enough to fool police
​On Misty not being bright enough to fool police for all this time:

“She’s like my little sister. I’m not trying to say shes not a smart person, but you know, Misty dropped out of school in the 6th grade. She doesn’t have that much book smarts to be able to fool the FBI and FDLE and every other person that came there and interrogated her for hours and hours and hours and lie detected her over and over and over… I don’t think Misty, she could do it. She’s got a good heart, a good kid, and she loves children. I would trust misty with my kids, before a lot of other people in this world.

“You can see it in her eyes, all she is, is a hurt little girl. Shes gone through a lot in her life and shes going through a lot now and its tearing her apart, its really what its doing.”

Chakra,I just wonder why she admitted she washed them? if you’re hiding evidence and why didn’t gramma sykes wash them too?

WAS THE WASHER RUNNING WHEN LE GOT THERE?

WhyLie,wasn’t it a fullmoon too? if i remember right?

she said in the 911 call,the brick wasn’t there when i went to sleep,well if they never used that door how did she know that?

TY,WhyLie!

Karon, that is an interesting line of thought.

Last night I played with the idea that Chelsea is way more involved. She had custody of Misty at some point, and they interviewed her for over 14 hours in Mass.

14 hours is a long time any way you cut it.

If Misty got in trouble who would she call to fix something?

I want to see phone records so bad.

CathyJo: I know why point it out and iirc they didn’t even have laudry detergent, hopefully LE did tests on the blankets because if only washed in water there might still be evidence

Does anyone know if Chelsea really got a tattoo of Haleigh on her foot or is it speculation?

Ronald was so proud of his, smirk “I was at werk” alabi.

Tommy stated his left eye was swollen where Hank hit him,” according to the report,” but …refused to write a written statement. Tommy kept a hostile posture throughout the investigation…was extremely uncooperative…and, continued to try instigating verbal altercations with his father, Hank, and his mother, Lisa Carmen Croslin.”

Onlookers included not only Haleigh Cummings’ ex stepmom, Misty, 17, who reported Haleigh missing Feb. 10, and remains key to the investigation for what police believe she hasn’t revealed, but her party pal, Kristina Prevatt, 18. That’s right, Nay Nay, small town party girl now seeking shelter with a friend after her own purported domestic love spat.

It was Nay Nay who drove Ronald’s ex on what all described as a three day binge of sex, drugs and drinking with White Boy Greg Page, the weekend before Haleigh vanished.

There was also Tommy’s son, Austin, who misses playmate Haleigh terribly, his family tells me; the report said he’d just missed the school bus he used to take with Haleigh, but “did not want to go with his father because he was scaring him.”

”I don’t think anyone really got hurt,” Chelsea Croslin told me in a telephone interview. “It’s just, when Tommy gets riled up, he likes to yell a lot, and I guess he wouldn’t calm down, so someone called the police.”

Missing in action was Tommy’s wife, Lindsay, the rock of the family who is juggling nursing school with motherhood while living at ground zero amid a town aptly nicknamed Dysfunction Junction. She’d spent the night in the hospital, and was apparently waiting for someone to pick her up when the fight broke out, said Chelsea. “Someone told me they were fighting over who should go pick her up,” she said.

Quote:chakra7 said,in May 12th, 2010 at 5:03 pm Does anyone Know what time Ronalds and Tommy’s hearing is tomorrow??

Not sure what time they will be in court, Putnam Co. only gives out the court date and case info. Sorry

“Snip” http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

Quote:
UCN: 542010CF000146XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: SHOEMAKER, TERRY J
Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES
Alias
UCN: 542010CF000253XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-02-03 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: SHOEMAKER, TERRY J

Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES

CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010

Quote:
UCN: 542009CF001653XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-09-14 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: WERTER, JAMES S

Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
2010-03-31 36 CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010

Date # Docket Description
2009-09-14 1 COMPLAINT – PCSO DET. KEN TAYLOR (8/19/09)

2009-09-14 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A

2009-09-16 3 ARREST REPORT: GRAND THEFT (9/15/2009)

Quote:
UCN: 542010CF000147XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: WERTER, JAMES S

Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010

Date # Docket Description
2010-01-21 1 COMPLAINT – PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (12/22/09)

2010-01-21 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A

2010-01-21 1 TRAFFICKING OXYCODONE

its all crazy and now crazier!

he was at ‘WERK” MAKING AN HONEST LIVING,AS opposed to what? his 2nd job wasn’t honest,lol

the brick,is that what gotcha Chakra,lol you got me giggling now!

Hit him in the head with dvd’s? well geeO

Coming off of drugs, sometimes causes seizures.

Yea it will Karon but i thought Lindsey didn’t use drugs!

CathyJo:
I noticed that honest living statement. I thought, “Give that boy a medal!”

heck yea Karon,lolAMEN!
An honest living,gee imagine that? I don’t know anybody who does that!

it was like wow i am superworker,gimme that Blue ribbon!

brb Ted needs help,grrrrrr

i would too Robin,
they sure do Karon,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtQegfTOc4Q&feature=related
video of Geraldo and Tm!

sykes says different?

Hi all,
Seems like I’m always in a hurry anymore. Tried to catch up on the comments last night, but didn’t post. I feel like I need to read before adding to the comments. I’d love to come back and chat with some of you. I’ve missed being here. I see it’s been pretty heated at times. I know the most of you are just passionate about finding and bringing justice for Haleigh. Most of you have some very good points. I just wish something would happen soon. This has gone on long enough.
I can’t say I have one theory anymore. There has been so much nonsense. We just need facts. I’m not sure what to believe anymore. I don’t believe anything I hear on Nancy Grace, so this is my source for information.
Cathy Jo: I haven’t had the opportunity to talk with you, but I do have to say you are refreshing to BNN. You call things like you see them, you are honest and sometimes you break the tension and we can get a bit of a laugh. There is so much stress that we need that from time to time. I’m a country gal too, so I know where you are coming from. I love your humor.Keep doing what you do. Don’t worry about what anyone else thinks.
Okay, to my point, sorry about the rambling. I’m not saying this happened, but since Granny Flo brought up Misty being jeleous of Haleigh, it’s made me think. It is a real possibility. I can tell you from experience, it happens. It’s hard when you are used to being Daddy’s little girl and someone else comes along and gets Daddy’s attention. Mind you, my step-mother was a lot older than Misty, but she still made my life hell. I was 7 years old when my Mother died, then my Dad met this woman. Plain and simple, this woman hated me. She didn’t physically abuse me because she knew someone would tell, but she abused me mentally and emotionally. I didn’t even know what sex meant, but she would say horrible things to me. She told me one day I would be out walking and a man would come along, then I would come home crying with blood running down my legs. She scared me to death. She would put baby oil in my hair and tell me it would make me pretty. I went to school with my hair all greasy. Well, I won’t go into a bunch of grisly details, but you get the idea. So yes, it’s possible she wanted Haleigh out of the way, then she would have Ron all to herself.
By the grace of God and a loving Aunt, I was taken out of that situation or who knows what would have happened to me. An alcoholic Father is not capable of taking care of a little girl no matter how much he may love her.
I hope no one takes offense to this, I’m not saying it happened, just saying it’s possible. It just recently came to my mind.
Hope when I get to come back you are still here.
Let’s just keep praying for Haleigh and her family.

tough cookie, excellent last post

Random, I totally believe that if Misty was in trouble she would call Timmy and Chelsea. I also believe that if Misty was going to “protect” somebody it would be Timmy and Chelsea.

Remember when Amber Brooks’s mom, Lisa, assaulted Misty, it was Chelsea that went after Lisa and beat her up.

I didn’t know that WhyLie!

Here you go CJ

Defendant
BROOKS, LISA ANN
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2008-10-06 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO/ 09-25-08
2008-10-06 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2008-10-06 1 BATTERY/ MISTY CROSLIN
2009-03-24 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO ALL CTS

Defendant
CROSLIN, CHELSEA
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2008-10-06 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO/ 09-25-08
2008-10-06 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2008-10-06 1 BATTERY/ LISA BROOKS
2009-04-30 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO CT I – BATTERY
2009-05-07 3 COPY OF NO INFORMATION RETURENED UNEXECUTED

Great point Why Lie- Misty lived with Tim and Chealsea,I think thats why she counts on them and would turn to them

see,I didn’t know or had forgot she lived with them tho nowwwwwww it rings a bell!

chakra I agree she would count on them and would turn to them AND she would also protect them, imo, before she would protect anybody else

and see Misty is still the only one who wasn’t 18 out of all of them,right?? or am i wrong there too?

the youngest that everybody could help out if she was arrested? wink’ ya never know!

I think Chelsea knows more than she is telling, but I don’t think she had anything to do with Haleigh going missing. Timmy may have been in on getting rid of her body to help Misty, however. IMO

Then heres Chelsea sayionmg she ponted toward the st johns river too right?

I can’t confirm the tatoo that it is indeed Chelsea’s but they were talkin about it last night on scared monkeys like it was fact- I do believe its her foot and I believe it ‘s confirmation that Chelsea knows shes gone , like a memorial

Chelsea was the first one to throw JO under the bus

Exacvtly and mistys jail call to chelsea,think Chelsea,you’ll know,could have been staged who knows!

homespain said,
in May 12th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

Rather than copy and paste which makes for a very long comment, here is a link to an article about Ron and Misty and some odd behavior and analysis of it. I don’t necessarily agree with all of the analysis but it is still interesting.

http://eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/02/ronald-cummings-misty-croslin-and.html
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Not to argue with you but just to put my 2 cents worth in here about eyesforlies. She also accused Somer Thompson’s mom of being in on the disappearance of Somer and analyzed her
right into being the bad guy.
How utterly sick to have said the things she did about Somer’s mom. Somer was brutally raped and murdered by a huge perverted ass that doesn’t deserve air but eyesforlies had the audacity to blame the mother. A single mom that was working to support her children. Who had taught them about strangers. Who had told her kids to walk and stay together. I didn’t even read your link because eyesforlies has NO VALUE to me over Somer’s mom. JMO

and I am certain misty told her!

gonna look for sommin brb

I have been thinking about LE classifying this as a homocide and telling Ron and Crystal to plan a funeral. Could they be doing this because then there would more than likely be a gravesite, which experience tells us that sometimes a criminal might visit a grave of a victim after a crime? It seems a farfetched theory I know but nothing makes a lot of sense in this case. If a funeral or memorial is held, LE would likely monitor this and act on suspicious people. Just thinking out loud.

Chelsea Croslin and her husband Tim say they moved from Florida to get away from the investigation and give detectives the space they needed to get the job done. They both say they will continue to cooperate with investigators and answer any questions they may have.

Exactly Robin,we can’t explore just one reasoning in it………too many untruths and ppl involved,i see what you mean…….honest!

IMO The door propped open has nothing to do with the crime. It is common place for the shock on the storm doors to be broken on these
mobilehome rentals. Those folks normally prop them open just to keep them from swinging. Why would they not just have used the adjust rod on the storm door rather than located a cinderblock and prop the door open. In my opinion Haleigh was not raped or killed at the mobile home site but probably at the hands of someone away from there. Tommy knew Timmy had pain pills since Timmy was knocked out from pills. Tommy had none. Would Tommy have made his way to Timmy’s? I have never known but one pill head and he would even go thru his married children’s home if he knew they had any type of dental work done, or back injuries Cathy Jo would be the subject matter expert on that sort of thing.I don’t think Misty knows one thing. She is just not that smart to keep quite. She almost seems delayed. Did the gun in the ditch have any shots fired? If it did Tommy Croslin killed that baby. Timmy and Chelsea are protecting Tommy. How could Chelsea raise Misty. Misty would have been fourteen when she married Timmy. Chelsea is
an enabler she thinks she can fix this broke
family.

OJ… Chelsea’s “alleged” pinky toe looks like a thumb!