I can not wait for Sunday. Justice is needed. Prayers WORK.

I can’t wait for the show Sunday. Peter is fascinating. I’m sorry I missed him online the other night.
I was reading at his website. I’m impressed,
There is so much misinformation that it’s hard to interpret anything without the facts.
I’m hoping someone can answer this question. I’ve heard Misty called Ron, then he left work. The other story was that she was standing in the doorway when he got home and she hadn’t called him. That would make a big difference in the way I feel about his actions on the 911 call. I was under the impression she did not call him, that he only found out about Haleigh after he got home.
If he is lying, I fell for it. It didn’t mean much to me that he stopped at the store if he didn’t recieve a phone call. If in fact Misty called him, that’s another story.
Once I know the facts about that, I can re-think the situation.
Please excuse my typing. I have a new laptop and I’m not used to the keyboard yet.
You guys have been on a roll lately. I’m ready to stop watching HLN. You can’t trust what they say to be fact.

curious–I would like your theory if you would care to share. I believe an SO is to blame and he is probably thankful the police have latched on to the “Croslins are the perps” theory. Believe me, I understand their focus, but after 14 months I would think they would be farther along and arrests would have been made. We have seen several suspicious people come out of the woodwork to make inflammatory statements against any and all the players, but I am not ready to take the leap and label them as murderers as some are so willing to do with so little evidence!

Simon, Do you have the tapes identified somehow as to whats on each one? Could you shed some light on what I am remembering? Pretty please? TY jmo

tobias, I remember the tapes you’re talking about. I have the right link, I think, but I’m afraid it will go in moderation if I post it. I’ll try after I post this to you!

Just give me the date the tape is on and Iwill go listen to it please. jmo

Thanks I will go check if it the one and come back and tell you.

I did find out Steve Brown was in contact with Tommy way before the LDT.Thee is mention of him on here in a jail video with Lindsy on the Feb. 11. Simon did a post on feb 11. jmo

Tommy’s lawyer just admitted on the JVM show that Tommy does know something, but he was not in on killing Haleigh. He took LE to the river the night he took the LDT, and they found some evidence. The next morning, the big search started.

Reading the analysis on Casey, and noting that speaking in present tense denotes deception, I find myself thinking of an earlier video of Misty. Since February 2009 she has spoke of Haleigh in the past tense. Except the day she went to the courthouse to get her marriage license. On that day she was discussing how Haleigh always “wants” the same things Misty has. All through this little spiel, she talks in the present tense.

Mr. Hyatt, does this mean there is a distinct possibility that this is a pure fabrication on Misty’s part? Thanks in advance for whatever answer you may give.

If so, I think it puts an entire new perspective on many of the videos we have seen. May be worth another look.

Thank you Simon, for posting the analysis.

I still want to hear from Tommys own mouth that he is saying Joe did it because right now we are just getting other people saying he did . And I dont believe them. At one point Tommy is saying he isnt going to lie about Joe just to get out.
I think the only one implicating Joe is Misty right now. jmo

stormgardner said,
in April 23rd, 2010 at 6:03 pm
I can’t wait for the show Sunday. Peter is fascinating. I’m sorry I missed him online the other night.
I was reading at his website. I’m impressed
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This is to anyone who would answer please. When I click on the link I’m directed to Shamus O’Rileys blog pages. I’m sure this isn’t the statement analysis page that our host is referring to or is it?

Dylan,

I am not sure, but I think Seamus O’Riley is Peter Hyatt.

Cant wait to hear the panel on Sunday. Hope there is enough time to get everyones ideas out for us. Peter H. sound very interesting and I understand some of the science he is talking about from Psyc and Soc classes I took.
Cobra in my opinion deserves more graditude for what he has uncovered.jmo bbl

Whiskey Mike said,in April 23rd, 2010 at 8:10 pm
I am not sure, but I think Seamus O’Riley is Peter Hyatt.
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Okay Mike thank you. I was wondering about that. I was expecting to read some of his techniques I guess. I really thought I had a bum link.

THe language of vulgarity….Hmmmm Seems I’ve also mentioned that before. The speak with such vulgarity/cussing due to living on a baser level. THe level of ignorance.

I think Peter is dead on accurate. THeir words are subconcious. They think they are choosing their words carefully but their words reveal much.

BTW Some of Ron & Cobra’s words on last audios were such truth that they sound exactly the same backwards as forwards. LOL! I found out by accident. WHile transcribing I often have to run the audio backwards to replay a small section. Sometimes 4 or 5 times to make the best attempt at accuracy. So while reversing a couple of times it happened. There may be more, I haven’t listen in everse to it’s entirety. Cobra’s I can’t remember exact spot now, I’ll try to find it again. Ron’s happened when he said “custody for 2 1/2 yrs” the 2 1/2 yrs sounds exactly the same backwards as forwards….bizarre. If Simon would allow, I would be willing to offer “clips” of sections I find.

Hey Stormgardner….good to see you too! I’ve wondered how you were. 🙂

I was without a pc for awhile. Now just busy. Good though. Getting outside feels so good. I’ve been out playing in the dirt. Lol

stormgardner April 23rd, 2010 at 8:15pm

It was fine, thanks. I would expect the Sunday show to be more interesting with people calling in.

“I’d give my life to get my child’s life back”

WTH?

WHy not “I’d give my life to get my CHILD back?”

Hey guys,ya here?
Haven’t been on much,been to dtrs house and i have my Grandson here,been watching movies with him!
Anything new or helpful?

not sure,will tryyyyyyy Got Dakota so depends!lol

These analysis things on the link are way too long for me and skip around too much and off on different subjects that don’t compare very well. About Ms. Hollars, there is such a thing as sarcasm about a subject that came up after a toddler went missing and a possible attempt to set up an innocent guy. I don’t see how that has a thing to do with the Hebrew King ordering a baby split in half to determine the real mother.

Why does NG have that heavy jacket on indoors?

HollysGmom, if what you said is the case, then everything Cobra has said is ignorant, too? Does he live at a baser level too? His language was far worse than Ron’s.

A guest with an agenda who is an accountant just doesn’t do much for me.

How does one analyze Timmy who has never given an interview? Through badly recorded phone calls that he knew were being taped by law enforcement?

Lori,
My thoughts about that are as follows:

Firstly the mans nickname is Cobra. I think it’s due to the fact that he too goes through a type of “Ecdysis” process with each new case kind of thing in that he must acclimate himself to his environment well which in his line of work is most likely a mandatory requirement I am thinking.
Who knows how much he cusses in his normal daily life though? I dunno?

I am sure the stress can be unbearable at times and if it were me having to go through what Cobra has gone through I know I’d be cussing up a storm.

Tuff Stuff – I think I got it – thats’a ‘bomber jacket’ NG is wearing, she’s dressed for dropping bombshells! Might be why Seamus chose the image – LOL!

Lori;

Cobra in some ways uses that language to emulate those around him, to fit in with them. If most of the people you dealt with use that kind of language, you would also.

I you’ll notice, many times people will “dummy down” their language or speech in order to be understood by others if the listeners use improper speech or language. No sense even speaking if you’re gonna talk over their heads.

My cousins teased me a lot growing up. The said I like to use those “$100,000 words”. Since I was an avid reader, my language skills & vocabulary far exceeded theirs, so I would often have to conform my words depending on who the listener was. That is NOT to say that I don’t use profanity. I do under cetain circumstances. Due in part, to being raised by a sailor. LOL! I do also believe that Mr Staubs was also a sailor/Navy man. The old adage is true: “Cusses like a sailor”.

So taking both those factors into consideration:
1) Ex-Navy man/Sailor
2) Deals daily with those who DO live on a baser level;either through ignorance or shear desire to only satisfy self AND must make every attempt to communicate, get answers, & be heard.

If during your work you were surrounded by those who speak Greek, then I would imagine you would have to include that “Greek” into your vocabulary as well, to be truely understood by those who are speaking it fluently.

I think some people are so “ignorant” they are unaware that the word ignorance means:

1.lack of knowledge: lack of knowledge or education

2. unawareness: unawareness of something, often of something important

ignorance is bliss it is often better not to know about something unpleasant

Thesaurus
NOUN

Synonyms: unawareness, inexperience, illiteracy, unfamiliarity, obliviousness, witlessness
NOUN

I’m thinking illiteracy & lack of education are the two definitions I meant in my posting.

I’ve often heard people tell others who use profanity “Don’t say that! I makes you look less intelligent” or “Once vulagrity starts, others tune out.”

That’s pretty wild, Holly. Honesty is the reason 2 1/2 years sounds like 2 1/2 years when played in reverse?

Jason;

Yea, I t really kind of freaked me out…I had to run it back and forth a few times to make sure. Man, I wish I could remember Cobra’s. It was a good one. Showed his true loving heart towards Haleigh…

Hey, Holly! Peter’s analyzing the order in which their statements were made in the 911 made it very clear that the call likely WAS staged is very interesting, and just seems to be the truth, as it fits!

Most important message Misty wanted to get out in that call: “I just woke up”, and most important to Ron: “I just got home from work”.

I wonder if both statements are lies, and would like to know if Peter thinks they are.

In the audio you transcribed of Cobra and Ron, I interpret the part where Ron talks of taking his son ‘with him’, as suicidal/homicidal thoughts.

Holly @ 11:53 pm: That is something – I would have never thought that possible, and can’t understand how that can be! Sure would love an explanation!

Jason;

Have you seen ShawnHS’s work on reverse speech? It’s prety interesting stuff. I have seen very few obvious backwards speech examples but I’m sure with carefull ananlysis, there may be more.

Yes, Holly – I’ve listened to some of the reverse speech on Shawn’s site. Problem is, what he hears on the reversals, is usually not what I hear.

There’s one on this page on reverse speech where a 7 month old is reaching for the tape recorder. Forwards it sounds like an ordinary baby gurgles but when played in reverse you can clearly hear “What’s that?

OJ’Glove = poster thinking OJ was set up. Misty was not set up in those drug deals she did it herself and asked one to go to the bathroom to get the pills.

It is NOT illegal for LE to conduct stings like that much like they do with prostitutes and johns on the street.

Holly @ 12:27: That’s cool! I have heard interesting ones, too, and believe there is something to it, but have never heard a scientific explanation for it.

Holly, if I record a cat meowing, and in reverse it says a human phrase, I won’t know what to think!

Jason;

LOL! I know what you mean…

I am interested in some of the revers speech stuff but some of it just goes too far out into left field (lizard/reptilian people, alien race, etc.) The far-out” stuff really detracts from the phsycological stuff.

OMG! THANK YOU SIMON! That speach analysis was fascinating. I’m exhausted but couldn’t stop reading until I finished all he had to say. Impressive is not strong enough of a word. I’m blown away. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US! YOU ARE DA’ BOMB! Now I have to go back over every statement any of these losers have ever made and start analysing! LOL

I’m back to thinking Ron IS involved and that Ron, Misty and Tommy will face murder charges. I’m just hoping LE knows about this speech analysing stuff…I’m sure they do and are using it but DANG! This is POWERFUL stuff.

The stuff on Casey was incredible too. I just can’t say enough about it! I’m completely floored, fascinated and HOOKED on this speech analysis stuff. I’ll CERTAINLY be tuning in Sunday! CAN’T WAIT….and Simon, did I say THANK YOU?! LOL I LOVE BNN!

Jason;

Do that! I am very interested to know!

Hollys Gmom said,
in April 24th, 2010 at 12:37 am

HG, I agree. That is the correct story on Werter and Tommy.

tobias,
I found the audio of Misty and Flora.Flora is talking about her Psychiatrist.
http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29736865/misty-call-11-2-12-10-b.htm
I don’t know that Nanny will be able to testify,you know what I mean?

I see alot of flattering comments about Peter’s writings.

BUT can anyone tell me about his credentials also his background.
There should be something out there that maybe you guys or peter can point us to.

Before I spend any substantial amount of time reading articles and opinions (written by one who seems to takes a stance of being an authority) such as what I see on his blog I want to be sure the person expressing them is legitimate.

Otherwise a person can just have devoted some time reading others books and works and then repeat what they have read and learned from others and pass the info on as tho they were an authority just to hear themselves “talk” so to speak.

Not intended as a slight against this guy, but y’all know what I mean.

So I’ll check back here tomorrow and hopefully someone will have the documented credentials for Peter. Thanks alot 🙂

Peace..

Was that a “REAL” song (“Talk to me”) that Ron dedicated to Misty on youtube? If you’re being facetious, I’d like to say Ron would actually dedicate “I’ll be Watching You” by the Police!
(“Every move you make, every step you take, I’ll be watching…Every bond you break, every smile you fake, every step you take, I’ll be watching you.”)

Grandma Flora is certainly entertaining. I wonder if all these theories that she has came from Misty when she was visiting her in Tennessee for 10 days way back when.

I have read that Flora needs an MRI and may have a brain tumor. If that’s the case, depending upon where the tumor is located, it could be pressing on an area that controls rational thought. I sure hope she’s okay because she is the only one saying “Enough with the BS already!”

Even though I’m a new fan, I’ve been reading this site for a few months now. I didn’t know that there was another site dedicated to Haleigh, other than Art Harris. I have read all the opinions and sometimes they have opened my mind up to alternate scenarios.

The name calling on this web site is truly the only downside. Please stop acting like the Croslins!

Jan 57, please hang in there. My heart goes out to you. You are a survivor and I wish you all the best. Peace~ : )

I just listened to the phone call again with Misty and Nanny in the car. OMG!!! That one was tough to get through. lol

NG was a re-run last night with additional info. Hank Sr. Tells Misty that he knows he and Lisa did not do it. They were at Shands Hospital in Gainseville. Hank also tells Misty that he knows Tommy did not do it He knows for a fact. Hank says he loved Haleigh and if he finds out anyone hurt Haleigh he is going to put a bullet through them. He would put one in his own son if they hurt Haleigh.

unfortunately, I have a lot to do today. I will check in from time to time. I am hoping we hear something soon. You all have a great day.

Maybe Peter Hyatt could analyze some of the statements from Crystal Sheffield’s family as well. Marie’s, “I don’t feel Haleigh around here… Georgia, Alabama…” for starters?

Who needs a voice analysis?? Misty holds the key to what happened to Haleigh.
Period.
Until she talks, or her brother turns on her, we will know nothing but speculation.

Right on, Kate!

My own opinion on Marie’s comments about mentioning other states where she felt Haleigh might be is that her message is to not stop looking for Haleigh period. She expanded the search area wiely by making the comments that she did. jmo.

Who is this Peter guy you want to tout as an expert in this field? He uses a FAKE name on his site and has NO credentials listed that make him an expert in ANYWAY in this field. so who is he? Peter or this other name? and where did he get his education in this subject? I see no reason to listen till you can answer those questions simon. JMO

That could also be the King Solomon story. The mother in that story said she would give up the child to the other just to let it live the other said she would rather see the child dead.
Take it however you want it is just a theory. jmo

Texasmommy39 it was around 8 hours before Crystal and Marie showed up.

I will not say anthing more than you can have your opinion .Opinion is just that what you think not what is real. jmo

tobias, how do you justify it taking Crystal 8 hours to get there?

Anyone read more of Seamus O Riley aka Peter’s blog……… going back to 2006?? Curious of what anyone else thought of his “blogging/writings” if you had a chance to read it in more depth other than the Nancy Grace comments. I would really like to know his educational training and where his sanctioned courses were taught….

I find it all very curious.

tobias said,in April 24th, 2010 at 1:27 pm The Sheffields may be liars but I dont see them being involved in what happened that night in Feb. and neither does LE from what we are now seeing in the investigation. And I believe they were investigated but it went no where, there was no evidence of wrong doing on their part. The only circus they started was trying to get Junior away from a father that we now here on tapes saying he will take him with him first. Not the usual over my deadbody but both our dead bodies. jmo
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ITA with you Tobias, they were really never on LE’s radar for a good reason. And frankly after hearing the tapes about Ron taking Jr with him (death ) if he thought he would lose custody is chilling, but he also told Tim Miller something very similar. Ipray to God he serves the max for his drug trafficking and never has unsupervised visit with JR affter that, he’s obviously unstable and has some serious issues of abondement after his mom ditched him for GGMS to raise, so when Crystal left him it triggered all those represssed feeling IMO…….the kids were only pawns to punish another woman who left him.

WOW where does this chit come from?
I tell you what put all the women in Rons life past and present into a closed room and we would find out who knows what!

@ just one said,
in April 24th, 2010 at 2:15 pm

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I find your thoughts of abandonment very interesting regarding Ron. I have known a few people with that issue.

You all need to read the post at WS by the lady whose husband works for ABC News cleaning up tapes. Ron was NOT talking suicide. It was the tattoos he got of Jr and HaLeigh. I would link it for you but the way they slam Simon over there, I won’t.

You think as many times as Cobra mentioned Ron and guns in the mouth he would have never commented on this and didn’t even react but instead carried on the conversation? Think logically without agendas.

Sorry, I have no idea how that posted three times.

Why is RC’s attorney sending messages to MC through the media? “I hope that if MC was involved, that it was something that she was ‘forced’ to do- or was ‘threatened’. Oh, and by the way..”RC’s not ‘mad’.”

http: / / en . wikipedia . org / wiki / Culpability remove the spaces.

when all is said and done croslins, cummings, and sheffields fit this. perhaps MG not so much since it was ‘mentioned’ ‘somewhere’ that she was going after RC for ‘molestation’ . i doubt it, but all are culpable for the situation leading up to Haleigh’s demise.

‘IMO’

truthbetold said,in April 24th, 2010 at 2:31 pm It is sad that some posters are unable to let go of their unfounded conspiracy theories that involve the Sheffield/Griffis family.

It has become obvious that this is not a family abduction case and the Sheffield/Griffis family has no involvement at all.

I would hope that the family would be treated with the respect they deserve. They are victims in this crime and have suffered a terrible loss.
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There is nothing that is obvious in this case IMO.
The family does have my sympathy, but, a criminal is still not charged or arrested and it was no stranger that commited this abduction.
Unfounded theories are all that you have as well, if you are buying into Misty did it, Ron did it, Tommy did it, Joe did it, heck they all did it theory.
LOL I wish you all could back up your argument with alibis and phone records from that side of the family. If you think that search in Baker County was to dispell rumors or at the families request I guess the one at the river was to clear Tommy at his request.LMAO.

Lori said,in April 24th, 2010 at 3:08 pm Tim is not the only one and it was discussed by Cobra too. I didn’t mean to point at all of you, just a few so I apologize for that.

Just One, I know we all have Junior and HaLeigh as our main focus, I truly believe that is why we are here.
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No need to apologize Lori! I know he mentioned it to Cobra too and I agree we are all here for HaLeigh and JR <3

I agree Ron had custody, but, Crystal had a choice to be involved or not. Crystal had a choice to go to work and hire an attorney and fight for her kids. Crystal admitted on camera she was not aware that the children where being abused, but, was taking picture in November and calling DCF. She went about things the wrong way and she let her children down as well.
Two parents providing and supporting the children leaves no room for mistakes.

Just One, I did need to apologize for making a general statement like that. I try to be respectful and I just lumped everyone together in my post. It was rude and I didn’t mean to.

TexasMommy, I’ve wondered why it took Crystal so long to get to Satsuma, too. Going by her subsequent actions and reports of her usage, I believe she might have spent that time trying to get drugs.(or HIDING drugs that may have been in her house) Sometimes the dealer doesn’t answer the phone right away or doesn’t have the supply in stock. It takes time to hook up. Truthfully, that’s what I thought. I’m not meaning to slander her; I have had and still DO have some family members in the thrall of narcotics and that came FIRST. ALWAYS. I base it on that.

Lori said,in April 24th, 2010 at 3:39 pm Just One, I did need to apologize for making a general statement like that. I try to be respectful and I just lumped everyone together in my post. It was rude and I didn’t mean to.
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Well I didn’t think you were rude at all, but understand if you felt you needed to:) To be honest you are one of the least rude posters at BNN IMO, in other words I have never seen anything you posted to be offensive.

Lori, Thank you so much for your input…. I feel like a broken record, even when Peter aka Seamus O Riely was on line, I ask please share you credentials, an accredited class you teach??? where?? I have yet to see an answer. Following last week’s radio/episode I ask those questions and my interuptation was he stated on the radio call he worked in “LE, or associated state entitie” and I have listened to it again a few times and IMHO is what most were led to believe. I’m sorry, perhaps you all think I am so doubting, but quite frankly I am beyond weary of watching every relative, hanger on, crawl out of the woodwork for their 15 minutes of fame, over the death of a precious little soul. I do not follow others blindly, I need some proof..

Jnet, I agree. I know Simon has talked to him but why is there nothing out there about this man? Peter stating his credentials without some proof bothers me. Why not mention those credentials and classes he teaches on his own site?

I am also skeptical of all these people suddenly appearing as “experts”. There is enough bad information about all these people without armchair analyzers chiming in.

I’ll try to hush now before I make Simon mad. I guess I just trust TJ’s opinions and information and not anyone else.

I respect your opinion, tobias, however I disagree. It would be so very simple to document credentials, so I don’t understand why after countless questions that has not been done. Please again, no disrespect to anyone, but I would recommend you read all of his blogs (Peter) to make a more informed opinion, I have nothing else to go on…other than his written word that caused me some concern.

Sorry I am not not a NG fan, however her panel is clearly defined by their college degrees and work history……excluding the Croslin/Cummings/Shelfield clans.

I read that tobias and I have researched my fingers off and can find nothing on any courses he teaches. Not even a small newspaper notice. And nothing on any high profile cases or otherwise. Not even on his own site which seems to be opinion and not analysis.

I am sorry Tobias, but we are at opposite ends of the spectrem. I have read his(Peter’s blog) entire blog from 2006, have you done the same? No disrespect to anyone on this blog, or AH, or NG or any other media outlet, HOWEVER if very basic simple questions can not be answered, then yes that raises a huge red flag for me. I am sorry you choose to geezz me, because I prefer to seperate fact from fiction, as well as experts from us common folk, rather than blindly following what someone on the internet tells me.

ps Most professionals do not use alias’…especially two different names… just a thought. For professionals, that just isn’t good for business. If you have the platform, normally the real deals choose to get their name out there.

My dear fellow bloggers. I am frankly extremely tired of hearing all the nonsense about Peter Hyatt not being who he says he is. His connections are clearly stated under the government of Maine website. He works for Adult Protective services and is clearly stated as being on staff as Peter Hyatt DHSS APS investigator. If only you would know how to concisely look up facts on the internet and not question every bloody thing that has already been made available as facts by Mr.Simon Barrett you would be much further ahead.

I went back an listened to brown today.The man asked if we would be heraring who the suspect is,Brown says i think you already know.

Just a matter of building a criminal case that will stand up in court.

brown says i have been working this case for the last 10 mon.CS Halieghs mom is my client.

An on Monday i solved this case.*That why there out there

What the straw that broke the camels back show host ask,brown well we had to get the details of what happened in the trailor that night(from Who Tommy)

An brown says i got those,but let me tell you i have the highest regaurd for Putnam co-an he goes on to name some.

Then he says hes been working for
10 months an finaly brought it all together.

Brown is also asked if RC is involved and Brown states not to his knowledge or something to that effect. His answer makes me question many things imo.

Really tobias?? Really?? I misjudged you from your other posts, I used to think you could speak very well for yourself… But I am really happy that Saluki was able to help you out.

Again, I will say I am beyond weary, disgusted, appalled by anyone using the death of Haliegh as a platform for selfish reasons.

If that, in your opinion, makes me a Judas for asking questions, then I honestly could not care less….. Good night.

Why did she get so angry that PH checked out? Isnt that what we all wanted? I chose to believe Simon since its his show and his image that would be tarnished if PH wasnt who he said he was. I really dont understaand what I did except take Simon at his word? jmo

Second part of browns interview,hold on im getting to something,i didnt mean to post untill i finished,did so by accident

Host talks ,then brown says this appears all of a sudden but actualy is a colmonation,of my 10 month investigation

An he talks about deer carcus,an what may be left in the water,then he goes to say other items that might still be there.

host ask Is this eveidence going to be enough to build a case against a suspect,Browns says yes.

Thenbrown says it will coroborate the ((EYE WitnessES)) testimonies that we have.

Can you tell me who will be hauled in,Brown says i have to refur you to the PCSO.

Host ask is it possable suspects not in Fla riight now,Broen says oh certianly,Host is it possible the suspect was questioned in the last 24 hrs.Brown says is it possable there more than one suspect.Anwser to all thos questions is yes.

Host are we going to find out if Misty had an copobility in this case.Brown> You know Misty was there,she admits to being there.Brown says im not a Attornt,i dont know the legal — of
Child Endangerment,an that sort of thing.So if she has copobility or not thats something —down the road.

Do you think Ron has copo.Brown not to the best of my knol.same he says for Crystal.

Host Time fram for this.Brown says depens on what they found in the river.There looking for corbrobating eveidence,for our eye whitness of what transpired that night.

Now that leads me to believe he got the eye whitness evidence an what happened fromTommy
Tommys Lawyer said on interview,That Tommy & he spoke for 2 days after LDT,then they called Brown,then Tommys attorny said they went an turned that into the LAW.

Now i ask who broke the case.Tommy told what he saw(eye whitness ststement)After the test Attorny,an Tommy broke the case Right,he only called Brown in Two days after he already found out about what he said he saw that night.Did Brown go check for the rope agter he was called in.

Did Attorny,plan with he including Brown ,to turn in what eveidence as rope found at Tommys

Tommys eye whitness signed statment together with his Attorny,when Brown,was called,alloed to be a part of this privy imfo.Did he want to toot his own horn,an he slipped an called LE before the Attorny could get the paper work prepared to go to The head of the investigation.Tommys Attorny said on video Tommy,an he cracked the case so to speak Then After Brown goes on tv an claimes he did..Tommys Attorny says Brown did not crack the case.

So whos truthfull.It would seem Tommy told,His Attorny,so they were the first 2 to know.An the Attorny called Brown so he in truth was the 3rd to know,granny being a close 4th in Tom Attorny sorta helped brown be a part,or getting him to go for the rope,that was left.I think Tommy who was the eye whitness was the cracker lol

Sorry but I just thought about the van. All the questions about it being in the wrong place ,when the scratches were on it and if it left to go to the MH where all made by Chelsea and the Croslins. There is no proof the van went anywhere or when the scratches were put on the van. The story sounds weird if you go back and listen to it. Chelsea says Misty called her to ask about the scratches. Wouldnt Chelsea have noticed them when she noticed it was parked wrong? She even says its just her accusations. jmo

I have a feeling the red truck was used and if it was there will be red paint on the bricks when they were put in the truck bed. Does anyone know if the LE have the red truck that Tommy got rid of? jmo

tobias, I don’t know if they have the truck but Tim Miller said he found the truck and LE took the truck in for forensics and that it was clear.

TC sold that truck to a local. Joe never had a vehicle in Florida. When Tim Miller found it the truck was with a local man who had purchased it from TC.

Thank you Treece for clearing that up.

HI treece;)

Guess that depends on what you mean by “checked out” – Granted, Mr. Hyatt does appear to be currently employed by the State of Maine DHHS/APS in Districts 6/Southern part of 7(I have a dear friend who works in D2),serves in a respectable profession, isn’t a RSO, plays the guitar, enjoys posting online customer reviews, everything from shoes to books, including many on the very subject he claims to have an expertise in, and he has an interest in true crime/criminals psyche. He’s seems bright and articulate but as far as having any credentials pertaining specifically to statement analysis, in particular, involving criminal investigations, I haven’t located anything that backs that up. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. On the other hand, if “it” doesn’t exist, then he’s no different than all the many others following these cases who hold down respectable jobs, aren’t RSO’s, have various interests and hobbies, one being crimes in the news/true crime stories (*especially those that involve a child) and trying to figure out whose telling the truth (not involved or guilty) and whose really lying (responsible or guilty). Just like us except that we’re not claiming to have any type of expertise. I’m sure that Mr. Hyatt can easily provide references and/or site some of the cases that he’s helped the Maine State Police with…

tobias said,
in April 24th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

The one difference is Ron was the custodial parent, the one who had all legal rights in how his child was cared for. Crystal only had rights for visitation.
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Crystal had joint legal custody. She had just as many rights as Ron had. She had rights to access HaLeigh’s school records and speak to HaLeigh’s teachers (without Ron’s permission), she had to the right to speak with HaLeigh’s doctors and access her medical records, etc. Ron had physical custody, but legal custody was shared between Ron and Crystal. It was up to Crystal to assert her rights.

I’m not sure why this is being argued about now. Just thought I would clarify.

J said,in April 24th, 2010 at 7:43 pm tobias said,
in April 24th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

The one difference is Ron was the custodial parent, the one who had all legal rights in how his child was cared for. Crystal only had rights for visitation.
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Crystal had joint legal custody. She had just as many rights as Ron had. She had rights to access HaLeigh’s school records and speak to HaLeigh’s teachers (without Ron’s permission), she had to the right to speak with HaLeigh’s doctors and access her medical records, etc. Ron had physical custody, but legal custody was shared between Ron and Crystal. It was up to Crystal to assert her rights.

I’m not sure why this is being argued about now. Just thought I would clarify
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I advised them to read the custody docs. Thank you for writing it out,LOL.
I am still of the opinion that a Sheffield took HaLeigh and I get the rant everytime I post. SORRY.

Tobias, the van article and video were poorly edited. Chelsea was talking about Lindsy, the owner, calling her the next day. This was confirmed with the reporter, Matt Saffer.

You are right though about all the van information coming from the Croslins, primarily Chelsea.

Wow it seems y’all know some details.lol I wish you would post more often.
Y’all do know who blstark is ..right?

In the drug world,addicted people arE true experst on what goes on in their world.

In a dealers world,a true expert is another dealer.

In a murderers life, expert would be another murder.

Serial killers,CAN be experts,to what another serial killer may do

Child molester,get one thats already locked up,he can tell you how another one thinks.

A religious person,who just is a religious person tell you what other religious people are like.They tend to down all,an there none that are to profection by their mind set they are ,an know all.No other can toch them the are the smarted,the crulest.They gossip,But they will beat you to death with the word,an all are going to hell that dont follow them,an they usualy hang with others like them.Putting others down,if the dont think like them.Most are bitter,self rightious people.Who think they know god,haveing a form of Godlyness but denying the POWER OF GOS,U WILL SEE THEM HANGING WITH OTHERS JUST LIKE THEM.THERE EXPERST AT HOW TO BE UNLOVEING UNKIND,AN JUDGEMENTAL OF ALL.bECAUSE NICE PEOPLE RUN FROM THE HATEFULNEESS JUGEMENTALNESS THY SPUE

A Person who realy love Jesus,is a expert on the love of God.gentle,kind,an full of love,an compassion,never wanting to see anyone go to hell,they read the word, an through the guidence of the Holy spirit understand it.The can pick another person who truly loves an worships Jesus,they know each other by the love.They have for one another,an love an compassion for man kind.They are experts of real truth,not judgements truth.

So if we want to be anexpert on anything,to me its better to have lived it,then we can decern,( decernment a gift freely given from God) WE CAN DECERN PEOPLE,WHAT TYPE PERSON THEY ARE,Jesus had walked with Peter a while knew him,but once he spoke to Peter,an told peter from what peter was saying,an how he was acting that.Peter jesus said,you know not what spirit you are of,in other words Jesus noticed a change in peter,that wasnt for the better.An Jesus knowing what spirits we deal with every day,wonder what he would have to say when we get self rightious.Damn something he created to hell,as if we are God the rightious judge.Or when we rip into each other,over something that really has no barring on us .Other than we have followed a case,or got emotionaly tied to the carectors,or the baby .We are just people hanging out posting our op with some news ,videos an theorys .So whos smarter than the other,none,all want to be the tope one,who knows more,but in truth all we know is what weve,read,an heard from others,spun with out thoughts about things.

On may feel Rons involved one may not.one may think Crystals just as guilty as Ron from yrs of drug use,some may not.One thinks Joe did have a part,some dont,seems just about all have damned Misty to prison for eterntiy,an many say shes the only bad,one the killer for sure.

Some may feel this mans a expert,some may not.But to get in a fight tearing into someone about some person you may never meet,an could possibly be wrong about.

It likechildren playing ,an one mean one gets all to gang on another ,because she/hes a bully.Except you are not children,an your in a public place,as my mother use to say.Show some respect,everyone has a right to speak here,unless Simon,an Jan poof them ,or call them down.But its ugly for new readers who may be interested in comming here about this case,to have to weed through the damn infighting.

When not one thing any say will make,or break this case.But you may make azzz out of your selves before others,mostly those who are passing by looking for a decent place to blogg.An here about this case.Get a grip.Theres one of you,an i wont bust you out,but i watched you in action for months now,an you actualy do think your the chit,an your the boss.Its disgusting.Grow up,an act normal.

I have watched you fight with not one,but many.So it cant be all of them every time. them,an non you.Please grow up,an come off your high an mighty high horse,All here are as smart, decent, smart theorys

shame for a grown person to always be putting ripples on the water.Everyone has a op an should be allowed to sahre,as long as they arnt vulgar,an attacking another OP ,AS THEIRS IS LAW.

If this person Simons is haveing on,has been in that field,or worked with criminals for a long time,then he could be an experst,in knowing them,picking up on lies.an such.

Sundays around the corner,listen,an make your call as to if you like,or dislike,nbelieve,or not believe,but stop fighting.

((((( Jan 57 ))))))

just one, where were you when blstarke was donating her time and her dog’s time on many searches for Haleigh?? Where were you when she was bringing her trained crisis therapy dog to the Haleigh bug center to comfort and play with Jr week after week?? I would guess you were right where I am, setting on my ars talking about this case. I don’t know where you get your info but at the time Haleigh’s family was very thankful that she was there. The same lady donates 100s of hours a year taking her trained dogs to visit elderly and brings much joy to others. What does she get out of it? not one thin dime but the joy of knowing that she gave of herself to help someone one less fortunate. I would be ashamed to talk about her like that.JMO

just one said,
in April 24th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
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just one,

Just so you know, that is not the complete set of custody documents. What was available on the net was two documents in a huge custody file. There is a lot more information in the complete file than what was available online.

Ron did not win custody of the children simply because he had a job. And the documents did not say that. That was one reason amongst many (in the documents available online). Another reason listed was the mother’s lack of sustained contact with the children. Judges do not give a parent custody of children because a parent has a job. At the time Crystal got herself an attorney and filed for a rehearing, she listed that she had a job (and insurance for the children), so that clearly was not the only reason Ron was awarded physical custody.

Typos lol but thats me,typing in the dim light.

I may have to grovel a bit here and apologize for jumping the gun on Mr.Peter Hyatt and his connection to expertise in statement analysis. I have to agree with MaineMommy40 in all that she says. Mr. Hyatt is indeed employed by the state of Maine but it might seem that Mr. Hyatt has adopted the persona of a Mr. Mark Mclish who has a book now on Amazon titled “I know you are lying”. This particular book has been reviewed by Peter Hyatt who lives in Maine.
Mr. Mark Mclish is a retired deputy marshall with 26 years of federal law enforcement experience. He has also taught at the U.S marshalls’ service training academy in Glynco Georgia. These facts are uncomfortably close to statements made bt Mr. Hyatt in relation to his supposed resume. I have read many of Mr.Mclish’s writing and they are remarkably similar in wording to those claimed by Mr. Hyatt as his own. Unless Mr. Mclish is posing as Mr. Hyatt I tend now not to believe that Mr. Hyatt is indeed an expert in statement analysis.

I just read Peter’s review of the book and how he took the online courses and read the book five times.

Also, there are people on line stating that Mark MccLish also doesn’t tell people that his book is based on anothers work or ghostwriter.

Everyone should question when they feel the need to. And none should question them for doing so.
COO~

Texasmommy 39,oney youve lived it.An im glad you,an your children made it.Its hard for a mother with children to learn to be on their own,when getting from under the thumb of a controling,violent person,who alters their brains with drugs,or drinking.It brings the worst out in them.

But you made it.An your right,an real mother sticks as close as glue to her babies,if she has to go through hell,or high water.Dad stand for what right,an if they cant make it,they should learn to be friends,unless violence was there,but try to do the best thing as prents for their children. Many people failed Haliegh.

would his job regarding autistic adults also include possible complaints/reports filed with LE regarding possible abuse of autistic adults? Could that be his contact with LE and not statement analysis work???

Great points Saluki and others. I hope someone will contact Simon *IF* he is going to be burned by a fraud.

Lori said,
in April 24th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

“…Crystal Sheffield, who was obviously terrorized with fear of Ronald Cummings”

An example of our expert’s work in his current article. That is flat out laughable it’s so far from the truth. And yes, I know so for a fact. Whether anyone believes me or not. Just ask Crystal now how she feels. She’s not a bit scared of him and never was. She was played like a fiddle by Kim and by others before Kim arrived.

I would not be surprised in the least if they get back together assuming Ron doesn’t serve a long sentence. I know I’m not alone in my thinking that.
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I agree,Lori.They were talking about getting back together the weekend before Haleigh went missing. She is not afraid of Ron and never was that was all Marie’s crap, and yes that is my opinion, but it’s fairly obvious…. in case anyone asks LOL…I wouldn’t doubt they might one day get back together..

Misty is not afraid of Ron and he didn’t control her either..that is so laughable.

just one said,
in April 24th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

texasmommy39 said,in April 24th, 2010 at 8:02 pm Wow it seems y’all know some details.lol I wish you would post more often.
Y’all do know who blstark is ..right?
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An absolute nut job that’s who. FYI-I read the custody doc’s a long time ago as soon as they were posted on the net. Simple, Ron lied about drug use, Crystal didn’t. Ron had just got a job and Crystal didn’t, judge gave him custody and the fact that if he managed to keep a job the kids would have insurance period. And I sure as heck wished a Sheffield had taken Haleigh and Jr, more than likely we’d never have heard of her, nor would we be talking about her death.

Have a great night
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Actually you are wrong about why Crystal didn’t get custody..

And you are wrong about BLstarke too

You must be an EX WS’er..;)

tobias said,
in April 24th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

The one difference is Ron was the custodial parent, the one who had all legal rights in how his child was cared for. Crystal only had rights for visitation.
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Not true at all. They had joint custody with Ron having primary she was entitled to everything Ron was entitled too..teachers,going to her school, getting doctor reports, etc..

Opinion,

Many people who are autistic do not communicate well and some might not communicate at all so if there were suspicious activities that Mr. Hyatt were called to respond to involving an autistic person do you truly believe that Mr. Hyatt would only be interested in obtaining information for the autistic individual and no one else?

Many people who are autistic do not communicate well and some might not communicate at all so if there were suspicious activities that Mr. Hyatt were called to respond to involving an autistic person do you truly believe that Mr. Hyatt would only be interested in obtaining information “FROM” the autistic individual and no one else?

“FROM” the autistic individual and no one else?

No one has said that yet but you. It’s okay that people question his credentials which so far are online classes which are questionable.

opinion: very questionable indeed..imho

This type of analysis is not supposed to be used to convict anyone in court. It is to be used as a general guideline to look into the way people speak, and why people say things in certain ways. I find it fascinating, and I have been studying this type analysis for awhile, now.

Karon, that’s true, however someone should not present and represent as an expert. It should state they are giving their opinion and limited
education involving an area that is open to interpretation.

There are so many that follow these cases and when people do not want to agree on everything and walk lockstep, then disagreements arise.

Hey guys!

vaquera said,in April 24th, 2010 at 11:37 pm tobias said,
in April 24th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

The one difference is Ron was the custodial parent, the one who had all legal rights in how his child was cared for. Crystal only had rights for visitation.
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Not true at all. They had joint custody with Ron having primary she was entitled to everything Ron was entitled too..teachers,going to her school, getting doctor reports, etc..
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Oh Really,thats news to me…sheds some light for me!

Texasmommy39 said,in April 24th, 2010 at 3:31 pm I agree Ron had custody, but, Crystal had a choice to be involved or not. Crystal had a choice to go to work and hire an attorney and fight for her kids. Crystal admitted on camera she was not aware that the children where being abused, but, was taking picture in November and calling DCF. She went about things the wrong way and she let her children down as well.
Two parents providing and supporting the children leaves no room for mistakes.

I agree 100%

You guys are just to sophisticated for me,lol i scroll up and i am like,Cathy……where do they learn all these big faINTcie words,lol
My Gosh,Feel like i’m in a room full of drs and lawyers,lol
Time I catch up and use my webster I’m out of the big league here,lol

jaba, since I say “I swear to God” about something and I know I’m telling the truth, one who says for a FACT this means I’m lying isn’t likely to convince me. There are no absolutes, no variations for types of speech in the south vs Maine, etc. It’s as subjective as it can be and very prone to error. That’s why it’s not used in court. A LDT has much more credibility and he speaks in absolutes.

My husband has a friend who is a detective in the sheriff’s office of a fairly large city. I’ll ask him if they use it and if so, how frequently they are wrong. According to his writing, he can *always* tell when someone is lying, not just some of the time. If that were true, the jails would be full of innocent people.

Lori,I do it too,always have!

3 Names??

CathyJo–I am assuming Crystal and Ron were never married? Is that correct?

CathyJo, you wouldn’t if you were the one who allowed it to happen and Ron wasn’t even outside per documents and testimony in the case files, imo. Nancy Grace’s expert on the show the day that story was discussed must have had access to the records that aren’t online.

Isn’t it lovely how NG’s experts can talk openly about court documents that are not public records. They are sealed only to DCFS, LE, COurt and such but can be access for ENTERTAINMENT tv…

HollysGmom, it wasn’t a sealed court file regarding custody hearings. Remember when NG was going on her Crystal rants and had the supplemental police report about Crystal reporting her car stolen? It was a supplemental report that we can’t access online but I assume anyone can go get it at the courthouse or police department unless it falls under HIPAA laws or regulations. Whoever the talking head of the day was, she had something in her hand if I remember it correctly. If I remembered the time period, I’d search the transcripts. It was prior to Kim so it wasn’t the same day as the stolen car questions.

I haven’t personally seen anything and can’t vouch for the talking head expert or non-expert NG had. It’s not brought up against Ron in the affidavit Marty Sheffield gave Crystal for the custody hearing so I don’t know.

Either way, that incident didn’t harm HaLeigh and probably taught them both to be careful around water. Someone disgustingly evil DID harm HaLeigh and I just pray we know soon.

Ron,An Haliegh Memories notice she did not want to get on that bus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h69zFz1kpRo&feature=related

HG, I would also love to know if anyone has traveled to MA again to question Timmy. We only know about Joe because the FL media was staking out his house.

HollysGmom said,in April 25th, 2010 at 6:24 am

have faith in Steve Brown. I want to believe him when he says he knows what happened in that trailer that night

When Brown appeared on tv the next day —

“Brown suggested any culpability on Misty Croslin Cummings’ part might result from her caretaking responsibility.”

This is supposed to be from the ‘eyewitness’ and Ron was not involved. It sounds to me like Brown is implying Misty wasn’t there.

And according to TC attorney he knows who did it but wasn’t involved. Who does that leave?

You have to take into account on the tape Ron is the one making the statement that it was Tommy that told him. Shoot I could tell you the Queen of England told me something and its hearsay. The thing is Ron knew about that boat ramp and had fished there too. He could be setting Tommy and Joe up by making false allegations. I wonder if Cobra went to ask Tommy about fishing at that dock to see if he got the same account as Rons??? jmo

Ron could have dialed the phone also but didnt. Lets be fair he is capable of making a call to 911 isnt he? At the time he was the one with a drivers license. So it shows Rons irresponsibility also. And TN was there at the time too. jmo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybLiwshayRo
Sorry tobias it was not Ron and Teresa saying it to make Crystal look bad it was Marie trying to make Ron look bad.
Tobias after listening to Marie would you not think HaLeigh needed medical attention? A 2 year old near drowning is serious. Not seeking medical attention is irresposibility and neglect. IMO it never happened. Someone would of called 911 IMO, a neighbor, friend or family.

And if you listened to the tape Marie says it was brought up in the custody case and it was by Ron blaming it on Crystal. And I think thats where it came from again. But like I say you can believe anything you like it is your own opinion. jmo

I need to corrrect the misconception that Ron made those claims, based on the court documents it was Crystal and Marie that made those claims.
Please read the court documents and the appeal from Crystal, it is where you will discover the truth and you do not have to take anyones word on it.
I hope you are having a great day.

I also want to add that placing the blame is not going to find HaLeigh and is not my intent. IMO after 14 months the facts should be clear and they are not because of personal agendas and the fact that many believe what the hear with no facts or confirmation to back it up. You and I are insignificant and IMO all the bloggers have drswn the line in the dirt just as Marie wanted. IMO The continuation of the taking of sides is why HaLeigh has not been found.
Even the POI field and we might just find some answers instead of chasing our tails.

One other thing to note,
I did see a link at Mr. Mark McClish’s website where people can send Mark McClish himself a statement to be analyzed.

…Just thought I’d mention that to see what everyone’s thoughts are…

One accredited online school that I just googled is called Connections Academy. Apparently they are functionally operating in and are accredited by multiple states.

No fee to attend too so obviously they are funded by the states that they are operating out of.

I am sure Peter H. will tell us this is a investigative tool and its not a magic ball to the truth. I wished everyone would just see it as that and listen to the program and form their own opinion instead of trying to discredit something they havent even heard yet.
Go in with an open mind and maybe you will learn something. I have read on it a little and find it interesting. The human mind and how it works is very interesting.jmo

I just hope there is enough time for everyone to tell whats going on. I feel Armando could have told more about his view from the dock if there had been time last Sunday. He saw Misty when police had her on the dock. I also wanted to ask if the residents had any knowledge on the trio fishing there in the past.jmo

I cant my phone has the blocked feature and I cant call to anyone with caller ID. Its a long story but my phone has to stay unidentified, a feature I pay for and cherish. I will try to go on the chat and ask questions though. jmo

I hope everyone has a good phone connection today last week it was awful.

tobias said,in April 25th, 2010 at 11:09 am With everything that has gone on recently with the boat ramp and Tommy taking LE to the ramp and the LE saying the case is a HOMICIDE. I cant see the Sheffields involvement yet others still pound away at them why? Is it because its the only theory where she could be alive or is that some just want the Sheffields to be guilty? This is just my opinion and you are entitled to yours but I cant understand it at all. jmo bbl
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tobias, I will explain why I have continued pounding as you say at the theory the Sheffields are behind this abduction.
First, let me say the recent events have indeed allowed this investigation to move forward and past the key and will allow other P’sOI to be looked at now,IMO.
To speculate at this moment on MC and TC’s involvement and or guilt is justified, but, if you take a step back and think about it…we are at the beginning again.
Misty has been semi truthful and Tommy knew something (placed himself at the trailer) but was not involved and the Croslins have been suggesting Joe from the very beginning and Shell Harbour dock as a potential place of interest. I do not know about you, but, this stinks and I have to make it logical for me to make sense of PCSO Investigation at this point.
IMO…. Misty was not home, she has been protecting herself. Tommy knew Misty was not home and even alluded to it during his previous stay at the PC jail, he was protecting his sister.
The fact that neither are involved and are the only two that knew aside from the abductor is key in this investigation, IMO.
Now we can look at Joe, but, feel that 14 months has given LE enough to rule him out or name him as a suspect and since that has not happened…. I again have to make sense of PCSO investigation, and have taken another step back and am looking at every thing that has been said and done and recorded since 04/12/10.
It is my opinion that a resident on Shell Harbour recently called in a tip and with Tommy and Misty’s confession and persistent mention of Shell Hrbour it only made sense to search. They did not find HaLeigh there and unknown items of interest means that LE is still not got what they needed to collaborate Joe did it. They reinterviewed him and have came back and said people are talking and P’sOI are being looked at.
Who else is there?
I then noted all the players attorneys and that they have stepped out, as well as Crystal’s Private Investigator and made press releases and or public statements.
Tommy Croslin’s attorney= James . Werter, LLC
Misty Croslin’s attorney= Robert Feilds
Ronald Cumming’s attorney= Terry Shoemaker
Joe Overstreet’s attorney= Shawn Sirgo
Crystal Sheffield’s attorney= Carol A. Caldwell

In reading each of these attorneys statements and press releases I find one particular persons representation perplexing, I am not looking before it, promise, it is a red flag and I can not ignore it.
Crystal has a legitimate right to have representation and to hire a PI, but, IMO the fact that Major Bowling has expressed his opinion (“It doesn’t advance our investigation any,” Major Gary Bowling said. “Whoever did it must have had a “personal agenda.”) about the previous search efforts of Marty and Connie Sheffield’s done in San Mateo and the fact that Cobra tried to turn in items found to PCSO as evidence and that they where refused, does give me pause as to this new PI’s involvement and the Crystal Sheffield agenda at this time. Add in the fact that Tommy met with his attorney and Steven K. Brown before meeting with LE gives me pause, and has me asking what are Tommy’s attorney credentials are(I checked… I would hire him) and his agenda.
I have taken a look at each of their statements in regards to their clients and again find Crystals attorneys statement or need of a statement odd. I know its just me, right, LOL only I have A hinky meter for Crystal.
I ask Why would Crystal and family need to cooperate with LE if Joe did it? Why would this Mother become silent after a river was searched and the case called a Homicide?
Homicide…. hmmmmmm…. don’t they usually have a body…and are the ones that need to find out who and why?
A Sheffield is needing to tell the truth.
I am sure this post is more than enough to explain my opinion and pounding if not, then…..until an arrest is made and charges filed I will not ignor the facts as I see them and that is HaLeigh has still not been found.
BBL need to do some yard work.

I re-watched all Misty’s camera interviews again on YouTube. It’s been a while and I wanted a refresher before the call today. A few things that I noticed this time was that in several different interviews Misty says the only people over to the MH after RC went to work was her brother and his kids and the AC guy. But we all know that Grandma Sykes came over while Misty and the Kids were having dinner to drop off the laundry. Wierd that in serveral different interviews Misty would not mention this. It seems insignificant that she would leave this out.
Also – it seems from very early on that the Croslins suspected Joe (Chelsea’s interview about the van, Lindsey and Lisa’s interview, Misty’s voice stress test) and the Greta interview is so odd. Ron’s facial expressions when Misty talks are unbelievable. I still don’t think they were related to them trying to get the story straight – I really believe that Ron knew very early on that Misty knows more then she is saying and that is why he stayed close to her (Cobra interview with Ron). Anyway – here are some links to most of Misty’s camera interviews. If you watch them all one after the other – Misty’s inconsistencies and the suspictions of Joe become very clear:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTl4PUY6o_E&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk536XfEG0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNe0zHiLtgo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvswuH4abSo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4oMFrM9tNA&feature=fvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU5iym3NvLI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8HdUiarQEU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YASQTK-ICWk&feature=related

tobias said,
in April 25th, 2010 at 11:09 am

With everything that has gone on recently with the boat ramp and Tommy taking LE to the ramp and the LE saying the case is a HOMICIDE. I cant see the Sheffields involvement yet others still pound away at them why? Is it because its the only theory where she could be alive or is that some just want the Sheffields to be guilty? This is just my opinion and you are entitled to yours but I cant understand it at all. jmo bbl
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Kind of like what everyone does to the Cummings though LE has said they were satisfied Ron was at work and neither he not Crystal are suspects but 14 months later we still have Ron had to know..Teresa is covering..Ron did before he left..Ron flew home with his magic cape and did it and flew back to work with no one missing their crane operator..Ron crawled through a hole in the fence and drove 1000 MPH to get home and do it and get back to work during his half hour lunch..All just as ridiculous, eh?

Crystal has just been told this is now a homicide investigation. No doubt she is mourning. She doesn’t have to step up to the mike and tell us anything or act in any certain way. Everyone handles grief differently.

Maybe take that into consideration, texasmommy.

According to Misty’s statements, Annette Sykes would also apparently have been the very last person to have been able to serve as an eye witness that Haleigh, Misty and Jr. were all at the mobile home that night and at that specific time.

AND allegedly there was another person who drove to the mobile home with Annette Sykes that night who would most likely have been able to see the Children sitting on the proch eating dinner as Misty alleges.
So possibly two (2) eye witness statements could have placed all of them at the mobile home at that time on that night.

I disagree Random Thoughts.
Statements that are given and used as testimony in court are usually in part what is used to either convict or aquit persons who are on trial.
It is an element that seems quite necessary imvho.

Were the reasons why AS came forward more recently with her true opinions of Misty due to the fact that she intended not only to seperate herself/themselves (meaning the Cummings family entirely) from Misty and also possibly to cement the statements that she had given in regards to being at the mh that night at that time to drop off the Children’s laundry also?

i disagree with you kitty kat, imvho there is reason to question AS’s statements about being at the MH that night and for me it’s clearly because Misty herself neglected to mention these potentially credible witnesses herself.

That seems speculative imo. Misty seemed to recall enough “other” key information minus that GGMa Sykes and another person had stopped by that night.

Is there any other credible documented information available that states that Misty has short term memory problems prior to this incident?

I did not find any links of Misty saying that AS came over that night. Every single interview she gives that I have found she says the only people that came over after RC went to work were the AC guy and Tommy and his kids. Maybe Misty just forgot this detail. As I said originally – probably insignificant. Just seems wierd.

Jr. is a witness. The passenger of GGMS was Ron’s aunt. Enjoy the show.

I’m convinced more than ever after listening to Cobra that Ron was involved somehow. I never thought that before. Chilling thought!

Best show to date!!!! Peter, I hope you are a returning panel member from now on. I gave a glowing review of this show on the Wrap-up page but just wanted to post here as well. You guys heard it, Cobra says Ronald wasn’t referring to murder/suicide….ok….that’s his take on it…I’m on my way over to Peter’s site to post the same question to him. Using the exact words Ron said and using statement analysis, what his take is. Just curious.

You also hear the possibility of sexual abuse/molestation when Misty talks about “washing, cleaning, covering, peeing,”
It was a factor, whether just that particular night or longer. It’s phsycology. She couldn’t help but reveal it.

You will also hear how Misty told Ron over the phone that night Cobra & he were at MeeMaw’s, that Misty told Ronald “He’s on to US…get away from him or I’m leaving. I’ll go back to Tennesse, I’ll got to Mich…get the h#ll away from him.”

Oh so she was willing to move to live next door to her rapist & Haleigh’s murderer? The man who threatened her life with a knife? Who threatened every member of her family? WOW! She really was afraid for her life, wasn’t she??? (EXTREMELY SARCASTIC)

Many, many will be in ire over this show but thank GOD someone is willing to be honest about what is really going on. Kudos BNN panelists!!! Keep up the good work!

Hollys Gmom said,in April 25th, 2010 at 9:24 pm Best show to date!!!! Peter, I hope you are a returning panel member from now on. I gave a glowing review of this show on the Wrap-up page but just wanted to post here as well. You guys heard it, Cobra says Ronald wasn’t referring to murder/suicide….ok….that’s his take on it…I’m on my way over to Peter’s site to post the same question to him. Using the exact words Ron said and using statement analysis, what his take is. Just curious.

You also hear the possibility of sexual abuse/molestation when Misty talks about “washing, cleaning, covering, peeing,”
It was a factor, whether just that particular night or longer. It’s phsycology. She couldn’t help but reveal it.

You will also hear how Misty told Ron over the phone that night Cobra & he were at MeeMaw’s, that Misty told Ronald “He’s on to US…get away from him or I’m leaving. I’ll go back to Tennesse, I’ll got to Mich…get the h#ll away from him.”

Oh so she was willing to move to live next door to her rapist & Haleigh’s murderer? The man who threatened her life with a knife? Who threatened every member of her family? WOW! She really was afraid for her life, wasn’t she??? (EXTREMELY SARCASTIC)

Many, many will be in ire over this show but thank GOD someone is willing to be honest about what is really going on. Kudos BNN panelists!!! Keep up the good work!
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Can you or anyone tell me where his site is? I do remember back in the very beginning, a poster at SM posted all about statement analysis and red flags in 911 calls, it’s very in depth and is exactly in line with what Peter Hyatt talked about tonight. I’d love to find out more about his site.

Thanks in advance

We Know Tommy had the yellow rope, found in his trailer. Why in the world would Tommy cover for Joe- does not make since. I feel that Tommy covered for Misty. Maybe Ron Knows Hard to tell But Misty Killed her I believe. by accident.

also, on Art Harris page on april 20th they found the rope in Tommys trailer- Lindsay Filed Divorce shortly after on the 28th. what does that tell you? why wont Tommy talk about Timmy?