And not one word on the Caylee Anthony case. Just a infamous world blogger taking on the Judge Strickland. He has nothing to offer! What a waste of listening!

So sad! MD is a waste of blog space. Another wanna-be who wishes to join the Merry Band of Thieves.

I have no problem with Simon at all. I have enjoyed Simon and Jan for almost two years now. Most excellent forum for Caylee and Haleigh.

Simon: I would like to make a suggeston regarding the questions that come in via phone lines and bloggers.

Maybe have a place on the bloggernews where questions can be asked prior to the Sunday show. This way you can choose and also your guests would have an opportunity to answer what is the highlight of the case.

Many questions appear on the chat site but those callers do not always get to phone.

It was also good to hear from TJ and Cobra.

The language expert was fascinating for sure. I would love to hear more on the subject.

I heard Cobra saying that he was attempting to enlist the help from similar experts back when he was on the case but to no avail. I hope the gentlemen from Maine can listen to the tapes that Cobra has to see what he can gleem from them. Also curious what he thinks about all of the conversations in the released jail house tapes etc… Interesting indeed!

thanks simon..any chance of extending the show to 2 1/2 or 3 hours? With one hour devoted to calls only? thanks

I rather enjoyed the radio show…kudos to Simon for all his hard work. If you don’t like Simon’s show, spare the rest of us and just leave. No one forced you to stay and listen.

Some people can never be pleased, no matter what. The constant griping in text at the radio show and still griping on the blog.

I believe Simon said the show would be about CA and HC…or am I mistaking? Because I could be wrong. If you are so miserable listening to Simon’s show, then quit your whining, pull up your big boy/girl underwear and start your won blog and radio so y-o-u can control everything!

I have never seen such childish, nasty comments in all my life as I did tonight. Karma is a biatch and I hope one day, all those hurling the insults, will be humuliated 10-fold. Where is your sense of basic human decency? I have seen, time and time again, when some call the innocent characters in these real-life dramas “trash” or “scum” but to me, I witnessed more tonight than in the last 2.5 years.

Two beautiful babies have lost their lives and that is what all of this is about. Quit your petty, selfish (dare I say-narcissistic?)attempts to control the airwaves (“make this man shut up” = “this isin’t what I want to hear so change it to that cause its all about me, me, me. forget the other 250 listerners).

I’m done.

I just had to come out of my long-time lurking @ BNN and give my applause to the host and all the guests. Your time, hard work, and decication is much appreciated. Even if I am banned for my mouthy-ness, I will STILL continue to listen to the show and sing this blogs praises–along with all those who reply to posts. It is some of the most entertaining, thought-provoking conversations that I have come across. Kudos to all.

Chill.

I am still not completely convinced that Haleigh is dead. I know that some of you will not agree with me, but this is just a theory.

Thanks Simon and Jan it was a good show having TJ and Cobra on. Marinade Dave was not a great panel member but he does have a good blog. Not enough from Armando this time,,I like him. Alot of people are losing their patience because they want answers and feel they aren’t getting enough. Tempers are flaring once again,,I will always read this blog and listen to your radio shows. Thanks for Denny he is the best!

Awesome show, good job guys!

The caller from Maine was very interesting too, hope you’re able to have him back.
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what was his NAME ??

HELP

I don’t know what show the people that didn’t like Dave
were listening to, but his section of the show was
just fine. He was brought on for a reason and spoke
to that issue, chatted a bit with Simon and then hung up
(which he was not asked to do). It is evident that MD has
some serial “haters” out there and show their
ignorance in how they speak. I dont know MD & have
only been to his site once, but I’m glad he was on to share
his of the story.
1st time listener, liked the info discussed, but the quality
of guests connections made it difficult to stick with the
whole show. Just a bit of helpful advice, have the guests ‘mute’
their phone until they talk, way too much background
noise. Other than that, cant wait for next show.

Thanks to Dave ‘you guess’ you wasted your day, Armando? Are you serious, or joking?

Dave did great IMO; spoke clear, easy to understand, joked a little, and politely bowed out in a reasonable, and very sensible manner.

The conversation with him was very interesting, and it seemed the panelists enjoyed having him on – they were light-hearted and chuckling with him.

He and Cobra have loud voices, and Dave’s especially carries very well.

Armando, I hope you don’t resent one of today’s guest panelist because he was given the opportunity to talk more than you.

Your day was wasted because of Dave? You blame Dave for wasting your day?

Armando, please tell me you’re joking.

I’m waiting for facts as to what transpired and then I’m going to ask questions and I hope Simon you will ask them as well. How many times has Misty been attacked over suggesting Tommy may have something to do with it? To many to count that is how many times. Who has done it? Everyone including her own Mother on a public level and then sided with Tommy. The Le well don’t get me started on them and the whole recollection of Tommy’s at the 7 month mark. They couldn’t run fast enough to scream it across head lines all about Misty while they let their pet out. Why was he not asked then to take a lie detector? Better yet why not the very day Haleigh went missing. I bet there would of been some evidence in the water at the one day mark. It’s the lie detector that got Tommy. Just prior to it he is heard speaking with his wife stating he passed a voice analysis and will pass a lie detector. He never told Steve Brown anything at that point and had he had a tester that swayed the questions and interpretation his way he never would of. The one where the credit belongs is the one who is silent not giving interviews to say he solved it. JMHO
Perhaps Misty was simply over powered by one or two people. Following that she did not want to tell Ronald because she was in love with him and feared that would end it. What did LE do when they heard of the abuse by Joe? What did LE do when they received the letter telling the same story and called it BS to Art Harris. Then Tommy tells it and suddenly it’s all great. I don’t share the same empathy for the LE there. They complain about media but play it like violin at every story that fits their agenda. Then they have a swarming party on a dock with an over aggressive border line almost losing it hand waving loon and they wonder what the trust and respect issue is. All that after they take Tommy in secrecy to the dock away from the helicopters but parade Misty out there and act so disrespectful to people that they make people witness a borderline abuse scene, and don’t care they did.
Simon I have no use for them and I never will have it.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families

I still want to know the name of the person that Simon thinks will shock us when they are arrested in this case.

I would have liked a lot less Dave and a lot more of the new information on the Haleigh Case discussed.

Dave chose to insert himself in something that he should have stayed out of if someone were to ask me. It could cause major problems with a case that is already problem ridden and is costing the taxpayers of Florida millions. If they have to get a new judge the price tag just doubles.

But this is all just my opinion.

I can’t believe what I read on CNN…Haleigh was tied to a rope and on the other end of that rope was a cinder block. I hope she was already in heaven when they did that. WHY? What could a 5 year old done that was so terrible? Did they sexually assault her? Did she die before hand from drugs laying around? Was she accidently shot?

I didn’t listen to the show. Anyone want to sum up for me???

Also someone stated they had a theory that Haleigh was still alive….please share that theory.
Any hope at this point would be awesome.
However, I do believe she is gone. Misty or Joe killed her.
And yes, I also beleive that LE knows the exact story.

Jason said,
in April 19th, 2010 at 1:45 am

Thanks to Dave ‘you guess’ you wasted your day, Armando? Are you serious, or joking?

Dave did great IMO; spoke clear, easy to understand, joked a little, and politely bowed out in a reasonable, and very sensible manner.

The conversation with him was very interesting, and it seemed the panelists enjoyed having him on – they were light-hearted and chuckling with him.

He and Cobra have loud voices, and Dave’s especially carries very well.

Armando, I hope you don’t resent one of today’s guest panelist because he was given the opportunity to talk more than you.

Your day was wasted because of Dave? You blame Dave for wasting your day?

Armando, please tell me you’re jokin

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I AGREE

Dave was great, interesting, and was what the listeners I assumed wanted to hear since Dave was the focal point of the entire weekend.

I personally thought the show was awesome flowed WELL and should have lasted 3-4 hours…..

LEFT ME wanting MORE

Thank you SIMON and JAN

PS yes I wanted to hear the book author but I would have wanted him for an entire hour all by himself he is that interesting……hope he comes back………

Hank or Lisa possibly? Dock near their home. Known for getting in trouble otherwise. All very active in getting Misty out there.

Hi, MomofaMarine! Thank you. I had read that and have been thinking about it since. Doesn’t it strike you as awfully odd (and presumptuous) for the cops to be telling parents when it’s time to make funeral arrangements?

I’m still waiting to find out – for sure – what happened to little Haleigh and who did it.
All I’ve seen so far is more fingerpointing.
But maybe LE did get some actual evidence from the river that we don’t know about yet.

I mean it’s one thing for LE to decide to call it a homicide and quite another for LE to tell a parent it’s time to make funeral arrangements. I think the parents should decide that – preferably after a credible confession or solid proof or a trial and conviction or something! IMO

m2c♥ April 19th, 2010 at 9:58 am

I agree, however, IMO (for what it is worth)LE knows exactly what happened and she is sadly gone.
I want to know what the SURPRISE is!! This is better than a good mystery book, only we lost Haleigh for real. That saddens me.

I also want to know if Ron knew anything after the fact.

Excellent show, great panel of guests!

I found MD very interesting. The only other familiar name for me was Cobra. He’s very spot on and humorous at the same time.

The gentleman from Maine, a statement analysis teacher was fascinating! I highly suggest you invite him on your show to share more of his knowledge. His analysis of Misty was perfect.

Another aspect that rings with me was the reference to the brick in the door. Such a mundane topic was repeated far too many times. I sincerely hope they can use forensics and find clues on the bricks found in the water to prosecute those guilty.

I have withheld judgements on any involved so far, waiting to see the outcome. The cast of characters are so colorful Disney himself could not have created them. Such a shame the truth has taken so long to be revealed.

I do pray for justice for this beautiful child.

Keep up the good work.

M2c Who is MD??
How did Cobra sound?? Good?? I like him.

Honey there is no body to be found. I am sorry to say it, but the alligators ate her. They are lucky if they have a bone or 2.
She is gone.
I don’t see any harm in telling the family to make funeral arrangements, after all, the case has been solved, and the family knows what happened.
We the public are waiting for the leak.

Deb

Anyone gonna watch Oprah today? Very sensitive subject matter, may be worth watching… especially since Cobra said what he suspected! JMO… although I may not watch.

M2C, yeah I’ll have my sister do that. I have an appt at airing-time, anyways. Thought of catching it later via the NET! But, I do think that your suggestion will work better. Thanks!

Armando, Were you on the other dock when Misty was brought to the site? Just curious if you could see her facial expressions.
I would have thought if she was told Haleigh was dumped there and didnt know it she would show more signs than just standing there. jmo

BOLDONE3 said,in April 19th, 2010 at 10:25 am
…I don’t see any harm in telling the family to make funeral arrangements, after all, the case has been solved, and the family knows what happened.
We the public are waiting for the leak.

I think you’re right – the case is basically solved but the details have not been released to the public. There is a lot of LE work yet to get their ducks in order and the appropriate arrests to be made. It’s clear that they have enough evidence of Haleigh’s death and/or they have documented confessions from at least one (and probably two) of the players. I just hope that Haleigh’s death was an easy one and that she didn’t suffer. She has so many people that love her now.

Thanks Tobias… I’m looking too!

Tobias.

I was and to b honestshe had none. They held her at th end of th ramp for like 20 minutes before they escorted her to th dock. Once there she just pointed around and just stood there. No emotion no hesitance no hurt. At all!!!!!

She actually smiled on her way back.
Sry I couldn’t get to none of tht yesterday.

I sent Simon a pic of a bending tree on th property and u can feel Haleighs presence there.

M2c hope all is well!

One thing is for sure Tommy is talking but there has not been proof positive who he is talking about. The Joe thing I believe came from Misty. Her letter proves she is talking about him but we also know Misty is a liar, so Joe may be a patsy for her. The recent tapes of Ron make me believe he is involved in the Joe did it blame game. If he really felt Joe was guilty he knew his address in Antioch and would have killed him. The story he gives Cobra sounded alot like the story Amber told about Ron and the bridge. I guess we will have to take a wait and see attitude. jmo

Tobias – I think that Ron and Misty have a pact to keep quiet. If anyone gets close to solving the case – blame Joe. I have been listening to the tapes, etc.. over the past day. I thought it telling when Ron went on and on about smashing Joe’s hands for “stealing”. If Ron believed Joe was involved, stealing would be the least of his crimes.

I wonder who the “big surprise” is – if it is Ronald, it won’t be a big surprise to me (or a lot of people).

No surprise here either. Actually if he isnt named I will be surprised now. jmo

Armando, I saw the chat boards but didnt participate I usually dont unless I have a question I need answered really bad. I think everyone was a little over the top and rude but just because they want answers. The problem is I dont think anyone has the answers yet. I dont think Misty was affected by the ramp because she wasnt there that night, she was cleaning up the MH. I dont think she was ever told the place Haleigh was put for a reason. jmo

Tobias, I thought that at first, too, that only Tommy & Joe went to the boat ramp that night. But Misty pointed to a certain spot in the water. If she hadn’t been there and didn’t know where Haleigh had been put, how could she have been so specific? This is what makes me believe that she was there also that night.

I am also questioning why Ron wanted Misty to continually prove he could trust her? The Rat in the mailbox, the marriage,the restraining order on Tommy,and the Tatoo she has. jmo

Aligoo, You cant believe NG or AH they said things like that but no where is there any video of her pointing at anything. They go over the top in their stories and report things wrong a lot. jmo

tobias said,in April 19th, 2010 at 12:48 pm Aligoo, You cant believe NG or AH they said things like that but no where is there any video of her pointing at anything. They go over the top in their stories and report things wrong a lot. jmo

I agree and haven’t listened to NG in months. But I have seen a picture of Misty on that dock with LE pointing at a spot in the water off the dock. I think it was taken by a news helicopter. So, she must have known something about that what happened on that dock.

Do you have a link because all the footage I have seen she never even raised her arms. jmo

From the minute I heard the 911 call, I thought Ron was involved. IMO, he made sure in that call to deflect from him and his home. It was less about Haleigh and more about him. He tried too hard to make sure they knew that his daughter was taken, not missing and not hurt at home. The point that sealed the deal for me was when he said that he did not care if they recorded him threat to kill the person. His daughter was missing and he wanted to make sure that they recorded his threat. Who even thinks of the call being recorded when you can’t find your child?

Once he made his point, he had more “important people to talk to ” than LE who were not coming. How about going outside and looking for your daughter? Why the complete confidence that she was “taken” unless he knew something before that call?

Aligoo at 11:20 am

Thank you for not jumping all over me for making the statement. YES its time to put her to rest, and I would think LE meant no harm or disrespect to the families by stating so.

The case is all but over. Until the media finds out. We all await for that.
Now Haleigh, rest in peace my love.

The thing about Joe is we dont know his personality except for whats been said by the ones who are accussing him. But you have to ask if he was so crazy like they say why let him stay in your home when you have very small children there? And now all of a sudden no one really knows Joe but goes on National TV and point the finger at him(chelsea). And the GMa in my opinion wants the reward money because the first thing out of her mouth was I was the one who gave the tip not I was told who did it.jmo

AnneIn TN, Jay, Yep, still A LOT to be explained. Better have more evidence that she is dead other than Misty and Tommy’s word!

I wonder if there were really two search sites and the first being Memorial bridge and then the boat ramp? Nothing was ever really said about that search except it was supposed to be about a woman who was shot on the coast 3 years ago. I always thought with the ocean being there why would you drive all the way to the bridge to get rid of a gun? And the gun would be under 3 years of silt(as we learned in the boat ramp search). jmo

Kate W. said,in April 19th, 2010 at 1:22 pm AnneIn TN, Jay, Yep, still A LOT to be explained. Better have more evidence that she is dead other than Misty and Tommy’s word!
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Kate I agree. This could be a distraction to make this case go cold. Gona take more than 2 blocks to prove a death. jmo

If LE really did say to make funeral arrangements that could mean they have something to bury? We will soon find out.
Remember LE keeps things close to the vest and this may be one of those things. jmo

tobias, yes i agree so if indeed Haleigh has passed she can be at rest and familys can have some closure.But if LE told familys to make arrangements they needed proof first for the familys. Seems to me that they went backass backwards on this but we dont know all.jmo

BOLDONE3 said,in April 19th, 2010 at 1:54 pm bones to bury. What else could be left?
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I agree IF they find even bones ya know. jmo sad sad

Thank you for the kind comments regarding last night’s program.

As this fascinating case continues to unfold, I plan to be on this Sunday’s show regarding Statement Analysis.

If you have a particular statement (the longer the better) from the Haliegh Cummings case that you would like analyzed, please visit

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

and enter it in the comments section. If any are flagged for deception or hold more than the obvious, I would be happy to present them on the program if Simon has time.

Or, if you have other questions, please feel free to post them there as well. If it requires a private response, please say so.

Again, thank you for the generous comments and I hope I can contribute to understanding in this case, which I think, may come to resolution sooner than later. And like many of you, I am wondering if any arrests (or filing of charges) will come as a surprise.

Peter Hyatt

I hope they have something they can get DNA from to prove she was there.jmo

His lawyer Terry Shoemaker made that statement. I believe it was to First Coast news.jmo

I haven’t seen the pic of Misty pointing….I thought it was just media that was there that saw her pointing. The helicopter shot never showed her pointing. THat would have been a million $ photo!

If RC’s lawyer say LE told the family to make funeral arrangements then they’ve GOT to have bones. But could they have gotten dna verification this quickly? I doubt it. Did they find her clothes? Maybe still attached to a rope and cinder block? That makes me nauseated to even type that! UGH!

Correct AnneInTn IF there are any bones left…….there is something. A shirt?

Bottom line, LE has evidence. And they are in correspondence with the family so the family doesn’t hear anything thru the media.
Good for them!!
If this lessons the pain for the family, we can wait a few days. IMO

Now I hope those who have accused and convicted Ron can hold there tongues a few more days out of respect for Haleigh until we know everything.
Because at this point, only a few know what really happened.
And we the public aren’t included in on that.

Whoever, Whatever is a bombshell.
Per media outlets.

News link

http://mistycroslin.com/tag/shell-harbor-road/

IF YOU HAVENT SEEN IT THE FIRST COAST NEWS INTERVIEW WITH RONS LAWYER IS SOMETHING ELSE. SO MUCH SPIN AND DENIAL IT WOULD BE FUNNY IF HALEIGH WASNT DEAD. HE ACTUALLY SAYS TN THINKS RON DID THE DRUG DEALING TO GET CLOSE TO MISTY. LOL HE WAS SLEEPING WITH HER I THINK THATS CLOSER THAN DEALING DRUGS. JMO

LE/The Family/And those directly involve know exactly what happened today. I bleieve LE DID tell the family to plan a funeral.

They are crossing every T & dotting every I before the Media gets a hold of it.

Dang how did that happen? sorry about the repeat in above quote.

This is probably nothing but something Lindsey C. said to Tommy C. peaked my curiosity a bit. It was said in the same jail house video, as to her saying she threw Tom & Tim’s workboots in the trash.

She mentioned that on her way into the jail she saw a memorial on a vehicle for a one ‘Chris Dobson.’ She said she had never seen a vehicle memorial and found it interesting. The she asks her husband if he is ‘shaking’ and then laughs.

Since she implied both knew this deceased person, I tried to look up how he had passed away. I found a facebook entry by someone who claims to be his sister who says his old myspace page is now a memorial for him. People asked her how he died and she said it was ruled a suicide but there were a lot of unanswered questions.

Does anyone know how Lindsey and Tommy knew this guy?

Yaknow the last 14 months has not smelled right and this search dont smell right to me either. I am just thinking out loud here. Something is NOT right. jmo

IF LE told Ron that he should start making funeral arrangements, BIG IF, there is the perspective that a funeral would really close the case in the minds of a lot of people and LE wouldn’t be getting so much attention and pressure about it…

Lindsy and her grandfather own the MH on Tyler according to records. It was up for sale.
Lisa said TN asked her if it was up for sale and Lisa had the notion that TN wanted to buy it. Its on one of the tapes with Misty after the vigil. It sounded weird when she said it and now its even weirder. jmo

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/money/onyourside/amarosarmy/news-article.aspx?storyid=154906&catid=3

Video of R’s lawyer plus news report.

charminglane – That was my reaction, too. Not only is it inconsiderate to say “funeral” when it seems that a memorial is more appropriate (if there’s no body),
LE better HAVE a body or some solid evidence before telling a family that (IMO). So far all we’ve heard are more stories from the same old liars. So LE must have some evidence but even so this does seem rushed and somewhat pushy IMO.

This is what Marie posted on fb a few minutes ago…..

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2909950/lindsey_and_chelsea_croslin_missing.html?cat=17

Oh you can’t make this sh*t up..LOL!

KC new JUdge: Perry KC new Attorney: Mason

Perry/Mason

LOL LOL LOL

LMAO, Perry & Mason!

Casey Anthony Case Update:

Perry/Mason on the scene today!

I was thinking about what a great “spokesperson” they’ve found in Flora Hollers. Then I remembered that Art Harris has been talking to her a lot. Then I remembered Flora Hollers saying that she didn’t remember where she heard this story or that story…hmmmm, where might she have heard some things…

None of these people seem all that broken up about this. I understand that everyone grieves differently. Even as far as being concerned for themselves, no one seems to be that worried. Let’s take TN for example, to me it seems like she doesn’t know why she is crying. There are a lot of theories out there and everyone has and are entitled to his/her own opinion. I also think that they should have said “Memorial” if anything unless they have some tangible proof that she is dead. I think maybe someone put pressure on LE to turn this into a cold case or “solve it”, or gave this Brown guy a story to run with. He is working with Tommy’s lawyer-WTF.

Hey Tobias;

I worked for a few hours again last night on that wreck info…still comming up empty. It’s making me mad. Renewed vigor! Everyone talks about the wreck but still having trouble verifying it. Will continue & let you know.

Are you on Twitter? If yes ADD ME! If no join & protect your tweets. Then only people you allow can read em.

Denise, It could be Tommys lawyer was in the dark about his involvement until he broke down.
And if Tommy agreed to talk with Brown there isnt anything his lawyer could do but quit which I believe he did for the Haleigh case.
Tommy talked about Brown on the tapes and he knew he was a PI and said he trusted him. Thats why I think Tommy is talking but I dont think its about joe like everyone thinks.jmo

LE cant tell someone when to make arrangments,now the Sherriff could have said Ron i belive this is it,you may want to think anout your funeral arrangments.There first has to be death cir.signed.That it was a homicide. An they will surly have to have some linking evedience,or maybe just what these 2 have given them will be enough.Like Homoiced by undetermined means.

Unless PCSO knows they found something that ties to what they said.Other than 2 cinder blocks.Because it will be hard to say they are blocks from the same load.If there was a load.Now if they can somehow match it to the block at the back door.I myself think if that was said they found tiny bone s,like a childs bone finger/wrist/Or they found the yellow rope that Lindsey said on the video,that Simone put up for us,the one she was talking about the boots on.

I really believe i heard Lindsey saying that investigators asked her questions about a yellow rope Do we have those videos still so i can go back an watch them,to here again exactly what she said?.

I think someone has to be missing at least 7 yrs.Before anyone can get the death Cir. then they can cash any policy in that they have for a funeral.If they payoff on homicides.But of course thats for someone that is missing,an they cant prove any crime happened,just believe it happened .

I believe Mrs Holler she truly thinks she is the one who told,an i would like to see phone records,an when Lawer turned the stuff into the PCSO.SHE REALLY MAY HAVE CALLED FIRST,BECAUSE IF TOMMY FAILED THAT DAY,AN CALLED HER THAT NIGHT,THEN THE lAWYER,AN INVESTIGATORS TURNED IT IN WHAT 2/4 DAYS LATER.They questioned,him his lawyer spoke to him then 2 days later he called PI they spoke an then they took it to PCSO.I think Misty called Thursday is what Holler said on NG . she spoke to Tommy Sunday before.Misty thursday who was telling what investigators told,her to her granny.

They said Monday night the PI son that he had cracked the case.If that old woman did call before these hot shots went into the office,an turned it in.I hope if a reward is out there that she gets it.Im sorry she needs it much more than the others,an if she did call first,i hope they dont hide the taped call,an cut her out.

I do not believe she did this for money.I think it ripped her heart,but she knew she,an Tommys call was taped,an knowed she had better call an tell.She doesnt favor to Misty,i think she knows her grandchildren,an how they act,what they have done in the past.An who she thinks would be more culpatuble of doing this.

Misty has been baby sitting sence knee high to a grass hopper,an children seem to love her.Her Grannys seen her with children,an shes seen Joe,an Tommy.We already know from Tommys speaking to Lindsey in Jail,his children are last on his mind.

The Real Armando said,
in April 19th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Hey Jason. I guess thts ur name.
I don’t recent Dave. I personally think he babbeled his ass off.
As far as not letting me talk. I could
care less but he didn’t let TJ talk either.

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Great post Armando, nothing to apologize for!!!!

Part of article from Nancy Grace:
According to Cummings’ attorney, Terry . Speaking of Ronald Cummings, it looks like Haleigh’s father could be out of jail soon. There’s word that Leonard Padilla is interested in helping Cummings make bail.

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I hope LP stays out of this until we are sure Ron is not involved. I have my doubts.

I’m not a Ronald hater but come on “out of jail” geez,,A study in how many things you can do, against the law, and go free,,

AnneInTn said,
in April 19th, 2010 at 2:26 pm

Robert Fields, Misty’s attorney had this to say.

“This latest search was based on information from someone else,” Croslin may have “shed some light” on who was responsible.

“Somebody else has possibly been implicated in this,” he said. “You need to look away from Misty.”

http://mistycroslin.com/tag/shell-harbor-road/

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That doesn’t sound much like a confession.

I am fb illiterate. I am a friend of her’s on fb, not sure she has a website. Let me go look and I will get back to you.
All her posts are showing up on my Wall Page.

One other thing…

LE stated that people are starting to talk.

Who are the people that are talking and what are they saying?

(I know we most likely won’t get or know the answers to these questions anytime soon but these are the questions on my list.)

treece just for the sake of clarity we do not know for a fact that what has been claimed is exactly what Ron was told in regards to making plans for a funeral etc…
So far we know that is what was told by Ron’s attorney as to what Ron had said to him.

It’s all so confusing.

In a nut shell as to how I understood it,

Last night on Levi Page’s radio show LP said he had wanted to bail Ron out of jail and had been asked to by the chick who is a blogger that befriended Ron.) but that a few days ago LP and his staff talked about it and decided that they would hold off on that idea.

That plan may have changed since then?

Allegedly the blogger/friend of Ron’s also had a thing for Joran Vander Sloot.

gngrsnap at this point we do not have actual confirmation that Ron was told any suchathing.

You know what Tuff?? No not going to listen because it isn’t important to know. And honestly, I don’t know what to believe out of anyone’s mouth. Especially the Clampetts. (Coesslin’s)

So I will go with the flow, hope for the best, and look at all this happening the last few days as “heresay”

Allegedly the blogger/friend of Ron’s also had a thing for Joran Vander Sloot

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!! Creepy!!!
Signing off…got nothing done today because I sat and blogged.
And in reality, we are back at square 1.

Operation “Hickory Nut Crunch”!

OH MY! LOLing a little to much over that so I think I better take a break too!
BBL

Oh yeah Ma and Pa Kettle! Yes I do remember watching them also.

BOLDONE3 – The Clampetts had the kind of class that means ethics, morals, kindness, generosity and honesty. THAT’s CLASS to me.

A lot of educated people with money, good clothes and all their teeth (who some might say have “class”) don’t have those qualities.

kathymac-Nice post.

How do I put smilies on my posts??
I am so computer illiterate!!
I make the Amish look hi-tech.

tuffstuff-
TY! I was just trying to think of other ways a statement like that could be taken…. like if LE said “Ron you need to prepare for a funeral” (if we find evidence that you were involved in this)
y’know like a threat… IDK

I really don’t see Ron’s lawyer flat out lying on national TV about what was told to Ron by LE I really don’t.
Even though I stay on the fence about Ron’s involvement with all this I still wonder if he wasn’t working with LE during the drug deal/ drug bust. Maybe LE has been playing him as well as Misty and her dysfunctional bunch?
I keep going back to his Gmother telling him one the jail recording that his mother told him that the cops said to be careful what you say they have a snitch in with you.
Ron wasn’t actually in protected custody either he was in a pod with other inmates had his own cell but was out with them during the day he told Gmother they played cards and such. Do we know if this jail he is in has anything different than pods?

PLEASE I do not condone Ronald or his mother TN in all of this I think they are involved but MAYBE Ron was after the fact? Hell I don’t know anymore it is driving me crazy trying to understand.

The original bonds for the drug crimes were excessively high in order to keep the players in jail in an effort to get someone(s) to talk. This worked pretty well! If LE brings charges against Misty & Tommy relating to Haleigh’s death, I’m sure that those bonds will be very high. I imagine that then the bonds for all the five people arrested on drug charges will be reduced, since the original objective will have been met.

gngrsnap said,in April 19th, 2010 at 7:08 pm –
I understand what you mean but I think it would be more like, “Ron, if we find evidence that you’re involved in this, it’ll be YOUR funeral!”

it seems cruel to me if LE has no concrete evidence that haliegh is really dead to tell ron that,so it seems to me they have something of the remains of haliegh to tell him that

Misty would have taken LP’s offer and told on Joe for sure. But what if she has now been forced by Tommy to open her mouth to somehow save her own neck.

m2c I am not sure what is going on but I have not seen any response from Crystal or her family members in regards to being told that they should plan for a funeral?

You said Ron “and” the bioMom’s side of the family. How do we know what Crystal or her family member’s were told exactly either?

LE has not confirmed that they had indeed told the family (both sides) that they should prepare for funeral arrangements. I don’t know but it seems to me to have been comments made that would have been followed up by a press release with those same comments I would think?

I’m confused on that whole issue.

I read somewhere something to the affect that Ron wasn’t upset with Misty or something close to that but I cannot find the link. Does anyone else have it or know where I can find it again?
tia

Not sure how this is going to turn out. But, sure Ron had custody when HaLeigh went missing, now behind bars. Crystal is the bio-mom and has custody of Jr. Being that Crystal is bio mom, thinking that she may have the authority. Anyone else have any info on this for memorial/funeral arrangements??

Casey Anthony had to giver permission for her parents to do the arrangements for her. Then she was not allowed to attend the memorial.

Interesting how this is going to pan out.

Both the comment about “preparing” for the funeral and Ron not being upset with Misty came directly from Ron’s attorney on First Coast News (two links/two different articles):
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=154906

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=154929&provider=top

I am begining to think Ron’s attorney is a real moron. Today on Nancy Grace he was pointing the finger at Misty and not Joe???? Then in the FCN interview he kindof laughs. He always seems like a deer in the headlights when dealing with the media. Obviously doing this pro bono and trying to make a name for himself.

Thanks Karon. I’ll go look now.

OT for one more comment to Armando: No one can waste your day, but you. You’re to blame for wasting your day, not Dave.

Dave was invited on Simon’s TALK-SHOW to talk, and that is what he did – LOL!

Play the game, play the game – even if it’s the blame game?

Tuff Stuff:

That is under Police thought they could get Misty to Crack on Radionewz blog.

Jason are you Jay? I like your posts

I’ve been on a different thread!

What do you guys think of the rope tied onto the back of the door of the mobile home Ron was renting?

It looks a bit yellow to me, but not really really yellow.

LE has nothing on joe or anybody else..the pressure from LE placed on Misty has backfired! Now everybody is saying anything to stop the TORTURE like pressure they have been put under.
LE has bungled this case from the beginning..the only one who plead was ron’s cousin sykes and listening to her tape she didn’t even know what “no contest” meant! absolute blunder by LE!

Jason – Well I would definatley prefer to hang out with and go to dinner with Ron’s attorney. A much more likable guy. BUT I think Joe’s attorney has played it smart by keeping is client underwraps and not letting him talk to the media while all the others are digging verbal holes for themselves with recorded inconsistent and changing stories. For what it’s worth I think Joe is guilty and his attorney knows it but is playing the right game. He is just going by the letter of the law “Reasonable Dought” If they do not have any hard core foresnic evidence against Joe there is plenty of reasonable dought to play with Misty and Tommy’s words. who cares if he is ice cold and nobody likes him.

Well Jason we all have our opinions.lol

Crystal’s myspace page is updated… the mood/comments are… in case anyone wants to kinda/maybe get a sense as to the news they received!

**Not saying you will find out, what it is you want to know**

**So don’t hound me about speculating/guessing**

Random… IMO there is!

Hey, CathyJo! How you doin’?

Jason said,
in April 19th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

OT for one more comment to Armando: No one can waste your day, but you. You’re to blame for wasting your day, not Dave.

Dave was invited on Simon’s TALK-SHOW to talk, and that is what he did – LOL!

Play the game, play the game – even if it’s the blame game?
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Jason, I thought Dave was just a call in.
Regardless, Armando is a personal friend of Simon’s and is secure enough in that relationship to express his feelings. He had also just given up much of his personal time to be a reporter for Simon and I am sure feels he has earned the right to express how he feels. He was on the ground right there during the boat dock search and may have had some good info to give us if Dave had not talked more then any other guest, if he was more then a caller. Not griping at you just wanted to make sure you are aware.

Jason – thanks for the props on my nic. My name is Katherine and people call me Kat thus Kitty Kat for the blog nic.

Well I guess it takes a cold steely-eyed attorney to defend a cold blooded killer. For some reason I don’t think Ron’s attorney would be defending him if he thought Ron was guilty. But then there is Jose Baez – guess that ruins the theory!

Thinking out loud here but I wonder if LE ever checked Hank Sr. home for eveidence sence he was in hospital that nite. Dont think they were home. JMO

Very good AnneIn… remember the daughter-in-law saying that it couldn’t be Hank Sr. unless he was kind of Magic Man?

Hi, Treece, I appreciate your civil comment; was afraid I’d hear a vicious backlash (not from you of course, neccessarily (lol).

Sunday’s show was a ‘Haleigh Cummings & Caylee Anthony’ update, and Simon wrote on a blog page before the show that the “exact makeup of the panel was still being ironed out”.

I think Dave was invited to talk about the judge Strickland situation that involved him.

I understand Armando has ‘been on the ground’ in Florida, giving updates, and I’ve seen photos of the dock area that he took and Simon posted.

That’s great, and appreciated!

beautiful*adams (cent) said,in April 19th, 2010 at 10:32 pm Very good AnneIn… remember the daughter-in-law saying that it couldn’t be Hank Sr. unless he was kind of Magic Man?
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cent me and a good friend of mind was talking about this.But Le could have checke his place for dna or some sort of eveidence.jmo

Hi CathyJoe.
Where have you been? Computer problems again? You are missing out on the beginning of the end from the looks of it. It’s sad news, however.:(

AnneIn, that comment of the daughter-in-law was weird to me. I guess I should go back and look at the vid again, cause she said it like he was under the “microscope”!

Will do that tomorrow… too tired now!

AnneInTn,

Good point – she could have been taken to Hank and Lisa’s (house or apartment?). If their home was next to Tom and Lindsy’s, the dog may have barked because Haleigh was being taken there, or removed, as the barking dog complaint was made around the time Misty called 911.

Without a search warrant, police would have needed permission to search from Hank/Lisa.

Does anyone know if Ron has had a poly? Today on Simon’s show, one of the guests came out of left field and said that she thought that Misty was having sex with both Tommy and Joe and that it was obvious. What? NG asked Granny if Tommy and Joe had molested Haleigh. Which one is it? Where are all of these stories coming from????

Thanks, Karon – I can see where performing well in a high-profile case could further their careers, put more money in their pockets down the road.

Jason said,in April 19th, 2010 at 10:58 pm AnneInTn,

Good point – she could have been taken to Hank and Lisa’s (house or apartment?). If their home was next to Tom and Lindsy’s, the dog may have barked because Haleigh was being taken there, or removed, as the barking dog complaint was made around the time Misty called 911.

Without a search warrant, police would have needed permission to search from Hank/Lisa
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Yes an remember when Timmy and Chelsa moved theres a pic of furtiure thowed away in front of their house for garbage man to pick up?jmo

RandomThoughts: Ron is in jail, not dead. If anyone is going to do ANYTHING for Haleigh it will be him. He has every right to do whatever he needs to do for his daughter.

Sorry, just a little bent. I can’t imagine what it’s like to be in jail and shackled when you find out your daughter is dead.

Looks like Ron will probably need to plan more than one funeral, imo. I hope he kills whoever did it.

I wish I could bail him out!!! Got the money, but hubby won’t let me!! (I would,too) (and no, I’m not crazy) Doubt if anyone else would let me either!! I’ll have to get in line with Nancy on that one. We can do rock paper scissors to see who gets 1st dibs on bailin’ our boy out!

Yes – just where did he get that information? He sounded sincere, and I’m rather surprised it hasn’t been discussed here yet.

WHY ON THE HOME PAGE, IS THE CAPE COD CONNECTION FROM 9-08-09 POPPING UP on related articles?? Ummmmm…any thoughts?

I wonder if Simon is trying to hint at something….

For the sanity of myself, would someone please agree with me about Timmy and Chelsea having something to do with this?!!!

Random Thoughts, why would you know that protocol specifically? Please don’t tell me that not only did u lose a child, but it concerned something with LE as well, I’m so sorry that you EVEN have to know that.

18, my god, I am so sorry for your loss, I am going to go kiss my 15 yr old goodnight again.

I can’t imagine how it feels, it must be the most horrible thing in the world. There is nothing to sugarcoat that.

Jason said,in April 19th, 2010 at 11:11 pm badcat, Cobra mentioned Tom and Misty being the reason for the couch bouncing, and the female guest who represents a group against predators agreed with him.
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And that was brought up after people on here and other sites revisited the “bouncing”. All those players and PI’s read the blogs. pftttt He can get sued for that and Art/Nancy for accusing Joe IF IF IF IF they ever found a lawyer to take the case for them to sue them.

ron can vote and hasn’t his parental rights..you are WRONG!!

Random thoughts I had no idea and I am so sorry to hear that. (((((((HUGS)))))))

The state police notified us the parents because we are her next of kin. They did not notify her boyfriend whom she was living with.

That is really a flimsy example.

Let’s say there is a benefit to help bury Haleigh. Who do you think would be named next of kin to oversee monies collected? Are they going to let Ron handle that from jail or would it make more sense for Crystal to step up to the plate and handle it?

If Ron gets bailed out, that’s a different ballgame. All Crystal has to do is push the issue to take charge.

My heart breaks for Ron and Crystal. I don’t believe he is involved and nothing has been presented except speculation to make me feel he is involved. However, I think he was involved with drugs, which put his children in dire danger. People on drugs make bad decisions.

I agree with you, something isn’t right with Timmy and Chelsea. Lindsay said that Chelsea was grilled for 14 hours by detectives. That’s crazy.

Most people do sit things outside the home for the garbage pickup when they are moving or hoping someone will pick it up for free. Has nothing to do with the case. Where do others take unwanted items when moving? It’s illegal to dump stuff or place in public dumpsters. Unwanted, dirty damaged or trash is just trash and put on the street when people move.

To me, Joe doesn’t look like much of a physical threat to Misty, but I suspect it is very possible she is fearful of him, if true she was his victim in the past
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She’s pretty cozy with him in that picture at the skating rink. She’s a liar.

You’re More than welcome RT.

I don’t know what they said, but Chelsea looked like death warmed over on NG the other night.

Eithe she is sickly, on drugs, or something is eating her alive.

I am wondering if Tommy and Joe took her to the shed behind the Croslin’s, first. TC used to hide the things he had stolen there. They may have had to move her in a hurry when they heard LE was bringing search dogs out, that night. None of them may have been expecting such a quick response with bringing the dogs out. I remember something being said about Tommy giving permission for them to search his place. He, also, said something about Haleigh’s scent could be at their place, because Haleigh was over there nearly every day. This was on some of the early reports. Do any of the rest of you remember anything about all of that?

I would like to know if those dogs reacted to that shed. When I heard about TC hiding stolen items out there, the first thing I thought about was people usually follow the same patterns.

misty has been SET UP like a bowling pin! Those drunken corrupt cops couldn’t solve a crossword puzzle! the idiots!! The pressure (TORTURE) applied to misty is to distract from LE’s bungling of the case!! all of LE.. the cops and DA’s office are trying to find a scapegoat to distract from their ignorant stupid bungling of the haleigh investigation! the MORONS!!!

My biggest problem about Joe bothering Misty that night and her being afraid of him is this. Misty had two brothers and a decent size Father. You would think if he bothered her in the past – she would have told her Father that she didn’t want Joe to come to Florida to visit in the first place.

These people tell each other they love one another, every other word in these videos but yet it’s okay for Joe to come around. It’s okay for him to stay at homes where there are small children. Did the brothers and Father not know what she alledged? Did they know and put it in their past and move forward? All I hear Hank Sr. say on tape is that Joe is crazy. I don’t hear him say, we should have never allowed Joe to visit us here.

It’s probably him but what in the world would be the family dynamics to allow him back into the fold?

Random Thoughts, you make very valid points for questioning the alleged fear Misty has for Joe.

OJ’s glove said,in April 20th, 2010 at 12:05 am misty has been SET UP like a bowling pin! Those drunken corrupt cops couldn’t solve a crossword puzzle! the idiots!! The pressure (TORTURE) applied to misty is to distract from LE’s bungling of the case!! all of LE.. the cops and DA’s office are trying to find a scapegoat to distract from their ignorant stupid bungling of the haleigh investigation! the MORONS!!!
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What is your expertise? Who said the cops are drunks? Is there any corrobating information to back up this claim?

Please post your links to the info that the LE have and their bungling of the case. Please post any inside source that states they have screwed up. TIA

Why haven’t you solved the puzzle? Please do tell.

Tonite AnneInTn brought up the fact Hank and Lisa were not home, and Karon hit on Tom having a habit of stashing stolen goods in his backyard shed.

Habits aren’t easy to break – so, IMO it is highly possible that Tom, if he ‘stole’ Haleigh, took her to the shed, and the dog barked incessantly.

IF yellow rope was used, did Tom get the rope from the shed? Was Haleigh tied up at the shed?

wrong! jason…you bashed armando several times..
and when he calls you out you change your tune..whimp!

And on JVM the other disturbing thing that was put forward was the possibility deer blood was put on her body to ensure the gators bit.

Sick and demented stuff surfacing.

Proceeding with my thoughts when Anne and Karon brought up about the shed and nobody home at Hank/Lisa’s house:

Tom has a history of breaking and entering, and a habit of hiding the things he steals in his backyard shed.

Haleigh is ‘stolen’, taken to the shed where yellow rope is retrieved, then moved to Hank and Lisa’s (Tom or someone else breaks in, or had a key).

The dog barks incessantly, neighbors call 911.

I bet Joe was there for hunting and fishing. I bet it was dear season and that is what his trip was all about.

Random Thoughts, we don’t know whether he’s telling the truth about “two types of rope in the van that was borrowed and one of them (the yellow rope) was gone that next morning”.

So, according to their claims, the van was moved, and yellow rope was stolen from it, and Chelsea, Timmy, Tom, or Lindsy did not move the van or steal the rope.

Random Thoughts, Tom saying yellow rope was stolen from the van makes it seem Flora could be telling the truth.

I ownder if Tom took the yellow rope from the van, and is lieing when he says it was stolen.

I really doubt that they would have to put deer blood on a child for an alligator to get them. Those things come up in people’s yards and get their dogs.

I can’t see the yellow rope as being evidence, unless they found it tied to the cinderblock in just the way Tommy described. A lot of men have yellow rope in their garages.

Whimp?? LOL – surely you jest!

Random Thoughts, from what I understand the police were called on a complaint about Tom and Lindsy’s dog barking incessantly.

and don’t forget the stolen checks and GUN from the blind neighbor..

Thanks Jason, that means a lot. It still feels unreal. They say a person goes through all these stages of grief, but I can’t get past the shock of it. My daughter knew I followed this case and it helps somewhat to focus on justice for Haleigh.

My daughter hit an ice patch, rolled her vehicle twice but her seatbelt saved her life. She was up out of the car picking glass out of her hair, when another car hit the same ice patch, stuck her jeep, pinning her underneath and she died of mechanical asphyxiation. A true freak accident. But poor Haleigh, there isn’t nothing to justify it being an accident.

It’s either a vengeful act by someone or Child abuse at the hands of someone. Applying occams razor it’s more than likely child abuse and they just didn’t have enough to go forward.

Thanks again for your kind comment. Goodnite.

Afterthought, it will probably be intriguing to re-watch/listen to them after/if(?) we finally find out the truth.

Peter:

”As this fascinating case continues to unfold, I plan to be on this Sunday’s show regarding Statement Analysis.”

Really looking forward to this show. Dropped in on your blog, very interesting.

HollysGmom:

Truth is stranger than fiction, isn’t it? The Perry/Mason duo reeks of karma. Buying time can truly backfire. If I recall correctly, Perry Mason never lost a case.

m2c♥ – didn’t work for me. Oh well. lol

NG 4/19/10: What in the world does RC’s attorney find so funny about the funeral? It’s around the 4:00 mark. Jeez, dude- get a grip!

try again 🙂

NO it didn’t!!O)

🙂
Sorry…I need a break…tt you all later.

Random Thoughts – I am so sorry for your loss.

Just got done watching Nancy Grace’s video about the rope and cinder block findings along with interviewing Ron’s lawyer. Goodness, I have to say I like Nancy Grace in that I think she has a heart for finding justice and truth for children in her own way, but she was harsh on him and he was trying so much to be civil. She kept bringing up his reputation as sterling so what, a threat so he would give info that he doesn’t have? That was manipulation and she was trying hard to get the info out that he obviously didn’t have or, certainly isn’t going to tell her. Jeez!

LE goes all quiet again. I wonder if we are in for another long quiet spell from them again?
Rons lawyer sure is out and about doing interviews and NG. Makes you wonder why if he is only deffending Ron in his drug case or is it for the Haleigh case too. They also need to ask him why he didnt hire a PI like Ron and he said at one time. funny how that never came about.jmo

lol Shockwave! would hate to be on the receiving end of her show. She’s a meanie lol

I like the caller on NG that asked a question about Ron lol NG face on that one said it all She is biased as H3!!. lol jmo

Random thoughts, so sorry about the loss of your daughter. How sad. What a way to start a new year. You will certainly be included in my thoughts and prayers.

Okay. Let me get this straight. Misty’s lawyer is suspicious because he doesn’t show himself or speak much in public and Ron’s lawyer is suspicious because he does.

Please tell me how you think the lawyers should behave. Is there anything they could do that would be reasonable, understandable and/or acceptable?

Staying off of NG would be a plus if it was my lawyer. Misty has probably told Fields how much she hates NG and thats why he isnt there.
We all know Ron is looked at in a different light so of course his lawyer is going on NG.
Rons lawyer did say the info came from Ron about the funeral arrangements and that he was not there at the meeting. jmo

I saw that too Cent. It’s heartbreaking. There are several article links at SM that I saw about that.
So sad.

No matter what had been said thus far or even what I may have believed had happened I was desperately searching for a glimmer of hope. I guess I still am I don’t know. I read that stuff though and it feels like getting a sock in the gut all over again.

Anybody talking now to LE and before this search will recant! Wait and see! When it comes down to arrests, all will claim they were pressured by LE. And Misty`s lawyer would never set foot on NG because she would tear him to shreds. Why would he set himself up for that abuse?

Does anyone else think it’s a bit premature to be planning a memorial or funeral before any evidence that a death has definitely occurred is made public? Before any arrests for murder are made? SOMETHING!?

Jay said,in April 19th, 2010 at 12:59 pm The police obviously have no new information aside from the speculative “story” that has been told to them by Tommy Croslin. They are attempting to use the media to convince all the players that someone has talked. When, in fact, nobody has said word one. They want to scare someone into telling a story that doesn’t exist.

I think the possibility that someone outside of the police and media circle took this little girl is very real. The police don’t know anything, and they are no closer today to solving this crime than they were a yr ago. The reason is simple, they have focused on a very small group of individuals. And they have done so at the expense of finding the real perpetrator. THIS CASE WILL NEVER BE SOLVED !!!!!
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Jay where are you? I agree with you about this post.

“Methinks” not nethinks lol 🙂 .

I still think that something happened to Haleigh before Tommy and joe got there. They were called to help hide the body and stage a kidnapping. I think the reason Joe can’t do much to defend himself is that perhaps the gun was traded to ron for drugs…ron was allowed to keep it for a few days to try it out maybe…when it came time to pay for the gun (which may have been hot,stolen by joe) ron didn’t come up with the drugs so when joe showed up and ron was gone to “werk” he/they searched for the gun and couldn’t find it. Joe was pizzed and needed a fix and was thinking ron ripped him off…so Haleigh was colladeral. I know that contradicts my theory of haleigh being dead when they arrived, but maybe haleigh or Jr found the gun and took it outside to play with it and lost it…or maybe haleigh found the drugs and injested some…(wouldn’t take much for a child her size and with respiratory problems due to turners syndrome) she may have died rather quickly. Now they must find the gun and the drugs and hide evidence (body)jmo

I can tell you:

1. Misty’s 911 call was deceptive based upon the Statement Analysis.

2. A high percentage of domestic homicide 911 calls are made by the murderer. It is more common than most think. There is federal data kept and there are some samples at http://www.seamusoriley.blogspot.com Scroll down to 911 Analysis, after Misty’s 911 call.

This leads to the natural question:

If Misty’s 911 call tests out to be deceptive:

Why did she need to be deceptive?

Ron has been cleared since July.

I still hold firm to my belief that Ron planted himself in the stupid amateur drug sting or was actually undercover. The latter, of course, would be a dream because then it would mean he isn’t actually in jail, or will be released after this is all over.

He and Jason are too too too close, for that drug sting stuff to be real. Sorry, jmo.

Ronfan, Dont want to take away your opinion but maybe you better pinch yourself, you are dreaming if you think Ron is undercover.jmo

I do think Rons good buddy John B. informed on them (no honor among theives or drug dealers)and I have to wonder why Ron is friends with a guy who sells stolen guns hmmm? Cobra also saiid at one point Ron has a fasination with guns, he was talking on video about showing his high powered gun to Ron(its on video of Cobra talking to TJ).JMO

I also wonder why Tommy got all freaked when Hank said they probably had a gps on his van and thats how they knew where he was when they busted him. Tommy says no they cant do that, can they like he was afraid they knew places he was where he shouldnt have been. jmo

Whats really creepy is Tommy talking with his son about going fishing when he comes home, on one of the videos. jmo

Peter Hyatt your post at 11:17 am and the information found at the link were very fascinating.

Thank you.

One thing I have tossed around for a while now is why is it that Misty was the one to make the 911 call and not Misty?

I wonder also if you were able to hear the recording of that 911 call that was altered so that you could more clearly hear the things that Ron was saying in the background?

Does anyone have the link to the edited version?

Sirgo was trying to tell NG that he could not reveal anything about a client’s juvenile record. She all but called him a liar. Sirgo was speaking from an ethics standpoint, and I agree 100% that an ethical attorney would not go on TV and say anything about a client without the client’s specific permission. Sirgo was there to say his client was not involved in this crime, nothing more and nothing less. NG was out of line (again).

Also I listened to the Cobra tapes again and in the last one Ron says the FBI took the lock but not the door. They replaced it with a new one. So now we know why they knew the door wasnt bump locked. jmo

Or JVM…not sure which of the tabloids had the comment in redacted form

m2c- jeeez, now the police can not suggest the family make funeral arrangmeents w/out “making public” what info they have??? Again, a bit self important aren’t we? Very rich!

m2c- jeeez, now the police can not suggest the family make funeral arrangmeents w/out “making public” what info they have??? Again, a bit self important aren’t we? Very rich!

Ah, they dodge all the time. They are saying what they want Misty (and others) to hear. Ron is “not angry,” he’s “disappointed” with Misty and believes she was “threatened” into silence. It’s their messaging system; they know it will be on TV and she/they will see it.

Misty better wise up and roll otherwise she may go down alone in this. If Tommy and/or whoever helped Misty and Haleigh was already gone she is the one who goes down for murder.
Tommy and others would get improper disposal of a body if they plea and testify.( 3-5 yrs)
Misty is looking at life, her lawyer better be pushing her to talk.jmo

I believe they stayed in contact with AH so they could get info on what was going on and tell him false info and he would print it.
He has even said on Levi that the Croslin wives are covering for their husbands(a little late for him to wake up)lol.jmo

Lindsy seems to be in great denial – she’s even accusing ‘the Cummings and Sheffields’; says it wasn’t the Croslins, in her comment on a YouTube video.

Tobias, I agree – the call placed from Misty to Tim/Chelsea’s could have been for help from Tim, not Joe, but if Tim was in bed recovering from the accident, would he drive to the MH, or would Chelsea or Joe go instead?

Another possibility for the call: Misty called to talk to Joe to let him know that he and Tom could come to the MH and get Ron’s gun.

TOBIAS: Okay, I’ve been saying this from the beginning and everybody on this site has told me I’m crazy.

Now, do ya’ll see it??

I know I’m dreaming, but I just like the guy, can’t help it, from the first time I heard that 911 call, I have never heard such desperation in a man’s voice in my life. The fact that he wasn’t afraid to speak every single thought out loud, just broke my heart. Who would have the nerve to say such things on a 911 call? Only someone who is not afraid of what people think of him, and only someone who is so very desperate.

C’mon folks, come on over to my side.
I’ll do some more Croslin Family Fun facts…

I HOPE they haven’t ALL known all along, but realize it is possible.

I feel it is possible Chelsea and Lindsy really didn’t know.

I think it is possible that Ron knew from the beginning, and grieved the death of Haleigh during the first weeks – then it was on with his life – marry Misty.

Intersting denials that Lindsy Croslin’s put up the YouTube ‘LindsyLPN’ channel on April 14.

Why deny it is hers?

Another in a series of blogger arguments going on in the other thread. I bowed out; I can’t stand it when that happens. Yet, one person is even making popcorn to munch while watching everyone spar.

It is so sad when people comer here only for argument and never for HALEIGH.

ronfan-I agree. My heart breaks when I look at Ron. I don’t honestly care that people don’t believe in him, I just ask that they keep there nasty comments to a minimum out of respect for Haleigh. Ron has been cleared I have read and heard from LE on more than one occasion. Crystal as well too.

But if you think RC was playing the role of undercover narc agent….I have some land to sell you. He LOVES his drugs. And if he can find an easy way to make money while getting high, he is going for it.
The only person who thinks Ron was an undercover narc agent, is his mother.
Awww Mothers!!

I still believe Misty was protecting Ron ,she wouldnt protect anyone else but Herself or Ron.
Either she killed Haleigh or Ron did the others just helped with the cover up. I know Ron may not be involved but there are too many odd things he has done since Haleigh went missing to not look at him. Sorry if I offend any one but this is my opinion. jmo bbl

boy trouble really seems to follow some people around! everyone of them in jail.

i read ah tonight about misty seeing bones.
this is unbearably heartbreaking. i realize they may not be haleigh’s, but, right now i believe they are.

Random Thoughts,
Good morning, I wanted to tell you I am so sorry for your loss. A loss of a child isnt an easy thing to go through its a journey but you learn how to move forward each and every day. If you beleive in God then He will carry you through this. It is very hard when you lose a child but your memories of your beautiful daughter will carry you through your journey. I am sure you know you will have your ups and downs its like two steps forward and sometimes four steps back. Its hard to understand why bad things happen to good people or just to understand it all together. Every feeling you may have ex being angry ect its all normal its part of the joureny with a loss. Its never easy and its something you dont get over with at night it sticks with you. The holidays, her birthday and heaven day can be very hard but in time it will bring you peace. I know this all to well and run a support group to help other parents with a loss a child. I loss a child almost seven in half years ago, he was six months old. I am very blessed to have Daniel in my life and blessed to have memories of him cause those are what gets me through my journey. I finally found my peace but doesnt mean I have forgotten about him and Christmas and his heaven day are very hard for me every now and then Mother’s day is very hard but I try to get through them all. I do visit his resting place taking flowers and things out there cause I find my peace there. My thoughts and prayers are with you may God bring your family peace and comforting. God bless

I saw on NG and JLM that they are saying that they have found Haleigh’s bones does anyone know if this is true? They said that LE showed Misty bones and she confirmed it has being Haleigh’s is there any truth to this.I cant hardly watch these shows much anymore and I try to get on and read the blogs from Simon and Jan cause I feel like they are being straight forward and honest about things.

I do not understand parents, anyone who harms a child at all. I guess I will never will either but it ticks me off when they do and it hurts as well. Children are a gift from God you should be blessed for having a child. When parents harm a child it bothers me alot cause to me they are ungrateful but instead standing up say they did it they blame other people but their child has to be haunting them though I dont see how they can live knowing they killed their child and that goes for other people who hurt or harm a child. How can they live with them selves.

I dont understand wait 14 months later to tell the truth why not come clean. These clowns did not think about anyone but themselves. Now they are going to do anything to save their butts on these drugs charges. Now they are going to speak, regardless you speak you still going to do time in the big house if not the death penalty.

I am so glad that I am not no judge our prisons wouldnt be so over crowed. If you killed anyone a child or another person you should have the same darn thing happen to you there be no sitting in jail/prision eating up tax dollars. All these sex prediators would be in a room by themselves with these parents who they harm their child. Let the parents handle them, themselves.. Its all crazy and it upsets me. I try not to post much but to read cause its heart broken to even think how these clowns including Ron had something to do with Haleigh. We all have our own opinions on the matter who says Ron,Misty and the rest has something to do with it and then there are those just blames Misty and others.

I just pray that all parties are held accountable for what happen to Haleigh. I have my thoughts but if Ron is so called innocent didnt have nothing to do with his daughter’s death then it could still eat him alive knowing he left his daughter endanger regardless thats something he has to live with for the rest of his life. But I know he isnt innocent. Just my opinions I have. I believe all of them are involved..

Remember the dogs scented on the dumpsters does anyone knows what happen there? I believe they found knowing if so then why did the dogs alarmed the LE with barking. I remember them searching the dumpster. This whole case is heart breaking.

Prayers in the air for Haleigh, Jr and the other children….

The little boy that was missing here in florida in flager county was found in New York a women dropped him off at a church with his name on a piece of paper. He was I believe two years old, I beleive his name was Nathdainel not really sure .

May God bless you all and you all have a wonderful day today…