On Sunday at 3pm we will be running our regular round table on the developments in both the Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony cases. Both of which seem to have once again gone somewhat quiet. It would seem that Jose Baez and his Pro Bono defense team are still licking their wounds from the rather nasty beating that Judge Perry handed them last week.
Baez did crawl out from under his blanky to whine some more about how unfair the press is early this week. He apparently took umbrage at a segment aired on an Orlando TV station about the tax payers footing the bill for transcripts.
The entire Casey Anthony defense team seem to have a love/hate relationship with the press. They jump at every opportunity to get on TV, and then whine and moan about the press coverage and how their client can not get a fair trial. As Homer Simpson would say.. DOH!
His client Casey Anthony cannot get a fair shake in Orlando in part because we at Blogger News have reported on the case. Yes we were mentioned in the change of venue motions!
Over on the Haleigh Cummings case it seems to be an unscripted version of the TV game show ‘Lets Make A Deal’. Ronald Cummings is the current contestant, and he seems to have selected whats behind curtain number two. His prize, 15 years in jail.
Tommy Croslin is likely the next contestant. Of course with his ever changing story it will be hard to know if they will let him stay on Lets Make A Deal or promote him to a spot on Jeopardy.
Meanwwhile Misty croslin seems to be playing Blackjack, she is sitting on 15, and the dealer is showing an Ace. Is it time to take an insurance bet? Should she Hit or Stand?
Tune in at 3pm to see what the panel thinks.
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Apparently the new judge does not appreciate the whining either. I love it!! It is good to see him come in and take over the whole show, even though Bozo thought he had that position covered. Wonder how he likes what he caused to happen? If he had kept his whining mouth shut, Strickland would still be on the seat giving him his way with each motion but this judge can see right through him. How can Casey get an impartial jury any where on the planet now? This is not due to anyone but the Anthony family and Baez, they began it and now whine about it. Why can’t they make up their minds what it is they want? I have to wonder what tree they fell out of or what planet they came from. As far as the Croslin/Cummings saga goes, this is one dysfunctional crowd of idiots. Grandparents on drugs or drunk, friends selling drugs and dragging the poor innocent little girl in on it with them and poor old Ron, had to be along for the ride. Surely they had no clue that drugs were being sold, RIGHT!!! Someone needs to shake the senses back into Misty and have her come clean. She knows full well what happened and who made it happen. I have mixed feelings where Ron is concerned, still rattling it around in my head. Some days I am convinced he knew nothing and the next day, I think he did but we may never know the full extent of this cover up or who is covering for whom. Meanwhile, two poor little babies are dead and there seems to be no end to this mess. Neither Caylee or Haleigh deserved what they got, innocent little children that God gave to parents who did not have what it took to raise them when others in this world are not able to give birth and want to so much. Social Services should have yanked them from the corrupted homes they lived in and placed them with loving families to raise them and care for them. Too late now, somebody dropped the ball here. Just praying to see the day when justice is done for both babies, may they rest in Gods care.
I don’t know enough about blackjack to know if one should stand on 15 or take another card, but it seems to me that Misty does not have an overly cautious type of personality. She’d keep going until the dealer tells her “busted.”
[sorry – that sounds stupid the way I worded it, but hopefully you get the point.]
Someone needs to care about Misty. I don’t beleive she hurt Haleigh. Think about it…Someday Misty will have children of her own. Let’s try to understand that if she could only see a glimse of another way of life different than that she has ever known then maybe she could grow emotionally. I don’t see her as evil. I see her as stunted and even though she seems to love her family and by the way I think they love her. They just weren’t totally on top of their game same goes for Tommy. If it is finally proven that Tommy nor Misty had anything to do with hurting Haleigh I would love to see the both of them be given some kind of chance in life. I wish the judge could order EDUCATION for the whole Croslin family. If Misty were 12 which she seems she could be I would only wish someone could adopt her and make her feel safe and make her feel like she is somebody. They feel like TRASH and I’m not totally knocking her parents they act like they feel like trash too. If in the end no Croslin had anything to do with Haleigh’s death. Would it kill us all to lend a hand to a family that needs some kind of friendship. I guess I’ve said enough. I don’t think they are child molesters or murderers. They feel like low lifes so they act like low lifes. Actually I have noticed some genuine sweetness and love, Has anyone else?
banana_nana3 said,
in May 19th, 2010 at 10:01 pm : What a refreshing post to read I sure hope your loving post does not get attacked here….
banan_nana3;
T bo perfectly honest, I too have recently thought similar thoughts about the Croslins. I do feel it possible that Jo or Tommy harmed Haleigh but what you say about them acting how they feel rings with some truth. I had been thinking that I almost feel sorry for Sr & Lisa. Yes, they sucked as parents but sometimes our child(ren) will do things we aren’t proud of. Yes, their drug and/or alcohol addictions are problematic and are the root of most of thier problems. When all you’ve ever known your whole life is struggle, suffering, disappointment, and failure it’s extremely easy to fall into the lull of self-medication. Is it right? No! Should they make clear efforts to change? Yes! Should we help those who refuse to better themselves?
I felt really sorry for Lisa in that last interview. I can’t even begin to imagine how heartbreaking it would be to have 2 children embroiled and at the center of such an awful crime.
Good to see ya HollysGmom !!! Where the heck have ya been??
Does anyone know details about Joe Overstreet’s belongings being dumped at a gas station on the way home to Tennessee? Leonard Padilla brought it up on NG a couple of nights ago and it roused my interest. Why would he dump his things?
I care about the Croslin family as well. It breaks my heart, when I hear Hank Sr. worry about when his unemployment runs out. He tries to give his kids a glimmer of hope, when all of them are under such duress. He sounds like a broken man, confronting his failures, wanting to do the right things but not having any means to accomplish the most simplest of goals.
Sometimes it’s nice to try and look for the positive things in a situation. In a country where our divorce rate is 50% – I admire Hank Sr. & Lisa for staying together all these years – through thick and thin. On top of all their problems, they must love each other. It also seems, they love their kids and their grandkids.
I think it’s heartbreaking for many of us because we see almost an entire family, who has fallen through the cracks.
It’s not just them either. There’s Ron. He’s lost his daughter, and with a clear conscience, the cops played him like a fiddle in a month long sting operation. I couldn’t have done it. I would have been throwing up knowing I was crushing what was left of him. To me, it’s obvious they had such a distaste for Misty, they despised Ron’s decisions and just had the attitude ‘we’ll show you.’
We just don’t know yet what happened, but surely some of these people are worth caring about and helping.
Thug4Christ:
I thought JO said that LE stopped him and his girlfriend on the way home and took everything he owned*I think he meant in the way of clothes. I thought he said they confiscated his girlfriend’s car, also.
I will listen to the interview again, but I was surprised when LP said what he did about JO’s things being left in a gas station.
Hey, I have never once written anything online until tonight. I have total access for like 8 yrs. I just always read everything that everyone else had to say. I feel kind of good about not being shot down yet. Thanks, Connie
Karon said,in May 20th, 2010 at 1:19 am
I was surprised when LP said what he did about JO’s things being left in a gas station.
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Me too, Karon. If he dumped his things, that certainly seems suspicious.
I don’t feel sorry for any of them.They want to live like trash.
I dont think Misty intentionally killed Haleigh. I believe it was either an accident or she is covering for Ron. I do feel bad for all of the Croslins though. I watched a video oon YouTube of one of Mistys jailhouse visits from her dad and her nephew is there and Misty gets so excited to talk to him and starts crying when she talks to him. I really do feel like she loved kids, I just think her and Tommy got mixed up with the wrong crowd.
ThugCops4Christ said,in May 20th, 2010 at 12:24 am Does anyone know details about Joe Overstreet’s belongings being dumped at a gas station on the way home to Tennessee? Leonard Padilla brought it up on NG a couple of nights ago and it roused my interest. Why would he dump his things?
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WOW! Hadn’t heard about this! I don’t watch NG anymore as I can’t afford to keep buying new TV’s when I break them from throwing things at them! However, I am going to go back and read some transcripts to see what LP said. I don’t generally trust what LP says because he’s been proven wrong time and time again….but if there is ANY truth to this…WOW! I’m wondering if the girl Joe rode with told LE about this and then LP found out from LE or others. I hope LE recovered whatever it was that was thrown out but it was probably too late (if this indeed happened). I’ve been on the fence about Joe being involved BUT if this is true then I may have just finally fallen off the fence about him! Thanks for posting this info! Going to go read some transcripts now! BBL.
Hi Karon,
How do you get back to the interview you said you would go back and listen.
I would like to listen to it, but i don’t know how to find it?
thanks
OPgirl said,in May 20th, 2010 at 7:51 am I dont think Misty intentionally killed Haleigh. I believe it was either an accident or she is covering for Ron. I do feel bad for all of the Croslins though. I watched a video oon YouTube of one of Mistys jailhouse visits from her dad and her nephew is there and Misty gets so excited to talk to him and starts crying when she talks to him. I really do feel like she loved kids, I just think her and Tommy got mixed up with the wrong crowd.
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If she was covering for Ron all this time then she would definately rat on him for Ron is testifying against her in court for a plea deal. Tommy, Joe and Misty are all guilty and all know exactly what happened that night. It’s just a matter of time till all the truth comes out. This case will not go cold. D MO Portland.
Any opinions of my thoughts of ruling out Ron??
Good morning all, There are som any new posts up with Haleighs name I am not sure which one to post in this am.
Good Morning everyone,
I just wanted to point out I posted the two part interview with Joe and his attorney the other day. Joe claimed LE took all of his clothes that he had with him and the took the car.
Bannana nana I Hope your kindness is contagious by all and is extended to all of HaLeighs family and those that love her as well.
Jan, I was sooooo glad to hear your thoughts on the case yesterday. You know I agree totally and am not willing to buy into the “story” either.
I also want to say thank you and command both o you for the dedication and hard work it has required from the two of you and just wanted you two to know it is greatly appreciated.
commend, sorry.LOL
Two things going on:
Haleighs disappearance of which no one is charged, yet.
Drug dealing/trafficking of which they were all caught on tape.
They need to pay, like all of us would have to, for their crimes in which they are convicted.
Upbringing was a part of their fall, no doubt, but a crime is a crime and unless insantiy is your defense and its believed, you need to pay.
Just because the son of a nascar driver is ticketed fro speeding, which he has been around all his life, he still needs to pay the ticket. I know that’s a loose comparison, but the the thought is the same. Do the crime, do the time.
Rehabilitation can be addressed during their stays in prison. They will have the chance to reform as best they can in the prison system.
We see how their lives have been ruined by drugs and now we have 4 or 5 people off the street who would directly contribute to someone elses downfall.
Of course, there is a line of dealers waiting to take their place.
Since they have just arranged to keep the unemployment checks going out until the end of the year.. many people including Hank sr and Lisa should be okay, not much money but enough hopefully to keep their heads above water..
Second, with what little circumstancial evidence that LE has is based on Tommy and Misty’s words.. not much guys.. especially since they both have not always been honest on what they say.. I don’t think PCSO would receive a clear bill to prosecute anyone of them as per Haleigh gone missing, from a Grand Jury.. My opinion. Too many Secrets in this Muck, and Too many Coverups.. Who did what.. Well, its possible we will never know.. WE can hope that with the court activities coming up, that someone is going to tell the truth.. But, then we have to ask? What?
Me, I can’t believe that this group could have pulled off the Death of a Child and not have left evidence, witness’s.. Screwed up somehow, especially if all were high on drugs.. Doesn’t make sense to me..
If Haleigh is alive somewhere, how did this same group of people pull it off, and kept her hidden for this long.
And if I were any Detective with PCSO, I think I would be pretty upset about this whole thing..
Their only witness’s, and neither one can pass a poly to save their own lives.. Now what does that tell you??
D Mo,
I would think that what you suggested might happen would most likely be the case, unless possibly that there is something being held against these people which is keeping them quiet?
Is it possible that some other nefarious activities and/or crimes had been committed prior to Haleigh’s disappearance that could be proven against them or other family members if any one of them were to talk about what they might potentially know in regards to this case involving the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings?
It does seem odd that the one Brother who Misty was alleged to have been partially raised by, is apparently closest to and trusts has still maintained a level of quietness when both his little Sister and his Brother are both facing such serious charges.
It’s almost deafening imvho.
I just have my serious doubts Ron has anything to do with this. Which Brother are you referring to Tuff Stuff?? I thought she just had one brother aka Tommy Croslin….
D Mo Misty’s other Brother’s name is Timmy Croslin.
D Mo,
You could be right. Ron may not have had anything to do with this case regarding his Daughter directly.
His actions are sketchy at best imvho.
I guess the best question I have in that regards is Why?
True and that is pretty disturbing. I’m not fully convinced about the whole boat ramp theory either and I won’t be satisfied till it is 100 percent confirmed that there is substantial evidence. I think Grandma talked Tommy Croslin into saying Joe did it…. By saying “Are you going to tell me what “misty” said?? Hank “Tommy” Croslin Jr is Mistys brother I beleive.
I agree with you on what Tommy had said/agreed to.
Grammie Flo was answering her own questions imvho.
Makes me wonder if there was something going on with Joe and his staying at Timmy and Chelsea’s home specifically, possibly to do with drugs or?
The family has it in for Joe.
I truly don’t believe that Joe was directly involved in Haleigh’s disappearance and possible death but I also do not believe that he is 100% innocent in what led up to it either.
I have been following this case since the first day and I’m just now catching wind of the cops taking Joes clothes and Joes girlfriends car on there way back to TN… I read it in someones post up there.
I have been following this case since the first day and I’m just now catching wind of the cops taking Joes clothes and Joes girlfriends car on there way back to TN… I read it in someones post up there.
I have been following this case since the first day and I’m just now catching wind of the cops taking Joes clothes and Joes girlfriends car on there way back to TN… I read it in someones post up there. Bottom line is Joe we arne’t for sure is lyeing. Misty and Tommy for sure have been lyeing since the dissapearence….. ??????
I believe that Joe very likely knows more than he has admitted to thus far.
Yeah I’m in full aggreements with my thoughts on Joe. Why Lawer up and not talk if your not Guilty??
That’s the thing though D Mo, we truly do not know who is talking…yet.
Deals are being discussed though. We do know that.
Only Time will tell… But time will tell. Nice chatting with you. Say your prayers.
New articles over at AH. Jan and Simon have provided the Haleigh bloggers invaluable space to discuss facts, rumors, and everything in between 24 hours a day. I just want to say a heartfelt “Thank You” to them.
It is most intriguing to hear that Joe dumped his clothing at a gas station as he traveled homewards. Was that BEFORE or AFTER LE questioned him? It still doesn’t finger him for kidnapping/raping/murdering a child, but it does suggest very strongly that he was THERE and had some involvement, in some way. Did the police collect Joe’s clothes from the dumpster? Sorry, I couldn’t tell exactly what actions were taken from the replies above.
Good talking with you also D MO.
Mlee,
J Dugard, the boy the played my name is stephen
was a true story. And Stephen’s brother turned out to serial killer even tho his brother was kidnapped by a man. But ecscaped yrs. later and never quite learned how to over come what had happened. He was killed on Motorcycle few yrs. later. But for his own brother tuned out be serial killer was crazy, he has a story.
there are many stories of kids abducted and kept hostage.
Iketa. I’m not sure if that is 100 percent fact. I have never heard that until reading someones above post. Someone please clearify this…..
OPgirl..You have it all wrong. Ronald had nothing to do with Haleigh’s disapearance, it’s all Misty and her gang. and I think she was killed intentionally, there was a big cover up for over a year and I hope they all will pay for this. They only persons I feel sorry for are Haleigh, her mom and Ronald.
Heres where Padilla taks about Joe’s cloths.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxEftXzqZfI
OPgirl – as you probably can see, there are many theories about who was involved. I happen to agree with you but none of us know for sure. I pray Haleigh did not suffer. I hope we know soon.
Simon & Jan ~ Would it be possible to do a rotation of topics on the Radio Show???
Maybe have HaLeigh discussion FIRST every other week …
I know both topics are equally important, but nice sometimes to have our priorities first.
Thanks, and to let you both know, along with the guests that the program is very much appreciated.
banana_nana3(Connie) – Nice post. It is not popular to be sympathetic to Misty. I do believe she was involved but I also believe she is a victim here too. She is a child who had no one looking out for her. So sad.
Flora Hollers
On the news again but not about her GK,
But another Baby that was killed by parents
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1005/17/ng.01.html
Karon you asked for the link for LP saying the clothes were left at gas station. This is it about half way down the show.
I hope I haven’t broken the rules for posting this link. If I have I am sorry.
Sorry it was Linda B who asked for the link. Please see above for the link. okie:)
I find it so very hard to believe that Timmy, Tommy and Misty could keep a secret for well over a year and sit in jail this long, without spilling the beans and coming clean. Just boggle’s my mind.
I DO NOT feel sorry for any of the parties involved here except possibly Ron. Misty especially! She knows EXACTLY what happened that night and has lied over and over again. She has wasted so much time and money of the people in this investigation it is PATHETIC. She has purposley misled the investigation and has no regard for anyone excetp her own behind. There was a little girl named Haleigh who could be laid to rest and people that care about her could finally have some kind of closure and she could make this happen and refuses to. I hope she gets what is coming to her. DO NOT feel sorry for this selfish, disgusting person as she definately does not feel sorry for Haleigh.
I do feel sorry for Hank and Lisa. Hank really feel’s bad that his children are in jail and there is nothing he can do to help them. They seem to be the only ones NOT holding their hand’s out to make money from this tradegy. JMO
People’s lives are what they make of it. Misty and Tommy may not have had the best options available but they chose their path. Too many times, people use the excuse that they are victims of their environment. That only goes so far. You hear about many people who rise above the challenge and make something out of their lives rather than give in. Let’s not forget that the actions of these people have caused a little girl’s death. So, there isn’t a lot of “feeling sorry for them” to hand out. JMO
Not sure who said this above, but ….It doesn’t seem to make sense that Ron would rat out misty and tommy for the drug issue, and then they would rat him out in return about Haleigh. ????
I think Ron is smarter than that! He would not rat them out at all if he thought they would tell on him. To me, that is commons sense and logical. I think he doesn’t care anymore about them. He did nothing wrong to his daughter.
They probably figure that since Ron is testifying against them for the drugs, that will put them both away for a while. So, to save their own butts, maybe they will fess up what they know about why Haleigh is gone, in exchange for lighter sentences on the drug charges. Now that’s a plea bargain!
I also think that LE wouldn’t be concerned about Ron testifying against them on the drugs (they have them on video!). So that doesn’t make sense either.
I think if LE beleived for one single minute that Misty or Tommy did anything to Haleigh, they would of already named them as ‘persons of interest’ or ‘as suspects’ or ‘make an arrest with charges’! BUT they haven’t done any of those things!!! WHY? Because they didn’t do it. LE is trying to get the information out of them as to who did! (read my 3 stooges theory).
Ron is tired of the games and angry that the witholding of information has impeded the investigation of finding Haleigh and who has her/OR/did something to her. He will let them both go down to save his own butt at this point.
That is logical thinking to me and is my opinion of the current situation.
CathyJo, I know you posted the Misty letter and there were some things you couldn’t read. I looked at it and can read a lot of the stuff you couldn’t (for some reason?) Anyway, I wrote in CAPS the words you had question marks by. Here it is.
So I can see her she is my best friend
and it is so hard not ?SEEING her ?OVER ?AT ??? a week (or could say “Our ? takes 12 week”). I miss her so much. I don’t know how much longer I can take ?OF ?IT. no one know how I fell (should be feel)*actually says FELT. HOW..ow I hert….none ?OF ?YALL. ?BESIDES be ??? EVER BE in ??
I feel so bad about this sh!! you know,
cuz i didn’t say it. I was scared. no one know
what he said he would do. you know that day
when he would not go back to the house and we
stayed at the story he put me up with a (knife?) (not sure if this word is knife…)
and said, if I said he would come back and kill
me. he told me at the house he would kill me to. So I didn’t know what to do. he has ? FELT? REPETE raped me, you know. I knew they was coming to get the gun he has. I didn’t know it was gone and that is when Joe got mad. TOM HAD WORLDCOM ?(the TV guy?) ? AND that
is when joe took it, you know. I don’t know where tommy went. I don’t think he did sh!! but
I know he now joe did. they was so F!!!!!
up and I mean I don’t know how joe even
drove home. this is why the van had scratch(not sure the word is scratch) on
and he was so f!!!! up bad. BUT they(should of been ‘that’) is all for now. I just wish I new what he did, you KNOW. WELL, I love you so much timmy and Chelsea. please right me back as soon as you get this. O ya Lindsey is ONLE (only) DOING IT TO MACK(make) ME ?? TO YOU ? ? ?. Or could be (MACK ME MAD AT YOU AND TIMMY)? OR could be: O ya Lindsy is ONLE DOING IT TO REACH ME ? YOU AND *Tommy or Timmy ? ?
Love you little sis
I love yall tell ? I love her misty xoxoxo
okie222 said,in May 20th, 2010 at 2:01 pm I do feel sorry for Hank and Lisa. Hank really feel’s bad that his children are in jail and there is nothing he can do to help them. They seem to be the only ones NOT holding their hand’s out to make money from this tradegy. JMO
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They received a car and cell phones from LP. LP might have given them money also. No sympathy from me.
Jen M & Cathy Jo, where can you look at the letter online? Is this the second letter sent to Chelsea, the one that she is trying to sell?
The Croslins dumped Joes clothes off at the gas staion because he wouldnt go back down there to collect them. He got picked up by his ride at the gas station and LE took his clothes and checked the car out. Padilla just mispoke like he always does. jmo
What does Timmy Croslin look like? I don’t think I’ve ever seen him before.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/20976154/detail.html
Yellow_Meat if u click on the link you will see a pic of him.
Yellow_meat wrong one. This is Tommy, not Timmy! sorry
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/70/m_ab9aa29390a8b71cb4b079e2d4c82e18.jpg
Try this one..best one I could find for Timmy C
Cate, the letter is at Marinade Daves site. I don’t have a link but go there and put in Misty Croslin letter. I don’t know if it is the one that is being sold or not, but doubt it, if it is already on the internet. I mean, why would someone buy it, when they get it for free?
I agree about Padilla…I have talked to him before directly about a lead in the Anthony case. He does NOT listen very well and comes to the strangest conclusions at times.
Does anyone know what Misty is talking about when she says: “I was scared. no one know
what he said he would do. you know that day
when he would not go back to the house and we
stayed at the story he put me up with a (knife?) (not sure if this word is knife…)
and said, if I said he would come back and kill
me.”
Because of her lack of punctuation, and bad spelling and grammar, it is difficult to tell. I did add some punctuation to help clear some of it up.
However, the meaning changes with her choice of words…for example:
1. you know that day when he would not go back to the house and we stayed at the story he put me up with a (? word)?
If you add punctuation, and correct words, etc. then it changes and could read like this:
You know that day when he would not go back to the house? And we stayed with the story he put me up with at first?
OR
You know that day when he would not go back to the house and we stayed with the story? He’d cut me up with a knife.
OR
You know that day? When he would not go back to the house? And we stayed with the story (that) he’d cut me up with a knife?
In any of those three, it seems that she may be trying to tell Chelsea the story she wants her to remember, depending on how you twist it.
BUT, it seems that Misty is telling what she knows about (someone, as there are no names)has told her that he will harm her and if she tells anyone he will come back and kill her. Then she mentions that he told her that at the house too. Then she reiterates that she didn’t know what to do because this person has repeatedly raped her. Then she starts talking about the gun….
This letter could be twisted all kinds of ways for sure.
Banana,I have always felt sorry for them.Haliegh first. Ronald,Teresa,,Mrs Sykes,Misty,HankSr,an Lisa. Haliegh could have wound up being like Misty if she had grown up in that imviorment.I dont believe any one of these harmed haliegh.
The hatred that everyone has for a young uneducated child,brought up in a life style of this,it being all she knows.(Misty) is mind boggling. No one knows if that child harmed this baby,all we know is she was babysitting for a man she says she loved,an seems to have loved his children,all children.Not once has any one she babysitted for ever filed a complant on her as abusing/neglecting their children.Even the mother of Haliegh said the children love/liked her.
I think she was home,doing the normal nightly routine.An if anything went wrong.Those two men she pointed to,went there stoned an things went crazy,as to how,an what all we have is what the letter says,the first one,an what news releases,an Sherriff Hardy said which wasnt much.
Tommy we know know has confessed to being there,or knew about a river.An says Joe was involved,as Misty says Joe was.So i tend to believe Misty,if she pointed to both,an one we know now admits to being involved,you can bet the other she pointed to was involved also(Joe) but no one beliebved Misty that Tommy was,now they are believing Joes wasnt.We know now Tom has placed hiself there,Si i tend to belive her about Joe also.
I just think if this is what happened,as Misty,an Tommy says. i think The two men were out getting high,when they thought of the gun,money,an more dope.Joe was said to have raped Misty in her letter,not just molested,now im only repeating what i saw on the letter that has been put out,which is quit hard to read.But the word rape stands out to me.
If true,an why would she lie,to her family about that in the past,an then in the letter,if it ddnt happen.Theres more to Joe than the man who was being coached by his Attorny,im sure hes quite different stoned,or in a rage.
Yes Misty looks like a tough gal in the drug bust,but shes not,shes a child trying to play a big criminals game,an trying to impress that man of hers,an those around her.Shes just a scard little girl who grew up to fast,an never lived a decent lifstyle,nor does she know how.
Timmy knew it was going to be a mess,he had talked to his wife,an Misty im sure.He had already served time before ,so he chose not to be drug into something he had no controle over.Im not sure if he is on parole,or has finshed all his time,an was released clear.
we see all have a drug habits,or even on the mother of Halieghs side have drug past,of drug addictions.
Its plain to see that when Haliegh went missing.That ,many things in that small Putnam county,an Baker co has been exposed.Drugs dealer,pimps prostitution,an meth labs.Even mention of LE being placed on desk duty untill they find out If he was involved with(coke).Word has been put out more than once that the LE in Putnam is a currupt one,now wheather before S Hardy came on,or still after i dont know.I do know Hardy said he would clean it up.
When a town has even the Sherriff son,doing/selling dope,which Tommy exposed about his drug use on a jail call recorded,talking to Lindsy about Hardys son.Now a bust,its bad when in a town even the sherriffs son is busted.A Haliegs mothers side grandmoma busted for dope/selling it,an running a drug house in her past.
A mother who let her 14 yr old daughter go live with a teenage boy,stating she coulnt do anything about it from the weekend the teen girl went,untill 2 yrs later Please.Teen girls being allowed to date older men.Mention of fake searches for Heliegh,by family(undoutable to prove she was deceaced for somereason,or taken from the state)That what was implicated when it happened..
Custody fights,12,000 back chid suppot,an collection taking so long,long enough for court paper for a mom,to go to court,an face jail time if its not paid.Haleghs Grand dad being accused of demestic violence,ex LE.
Mexicen drug lords.Guns Assault R..The mom,an dad of Haliegh being addicted to drugs.A child being born with drugs in her system,wrecks with a baby in the car,an the mom being high.All these thigs were said to have happened.
Even the mom of Haliegh failing court ordered drug test,after she got her son back from Ronald.an still children being allowed to say in that home.DFS going to 3 homes where moms,or dads are known dopers,an children being left in these homes,homes with violence.Near drowning of Haliegh,an her not being rushed to the hospital.
Come on,thats a tangled mess.An one child going missing Expose a town full of curruption drug abuse guns dealing,ect———
I have kept up with Hank,an Lisa by phone,an they with me.But i havent heard from them,sence a week befor this last jail call tape was released with Tommy,an his Granny.I hope they are ok.
I think the Croslin’s deserve sympathy. Hank Sr. has a very severe reading disorder and is therefore illiterate. Misty refusing to go to school after age 12 strongly suggests that she has the severe reading disorder as well. It is quite likely that their drug and alcohol problems are a direct result of their learning disabilities. We don’t know yet who is guilty of what and this family is an easy target. I find it very sad and disturbing.
Thank you, Banana_Nana3, Niterbug and HollysGmom for showing some basic humanity for this family.
Timmy favors Misty more hes not bad looking,if thats him on the link.poor Tommys i dont know what happen to him,an his eyes rolling uncontrollably is bad.He doesnt look like Misty,or Timmy,or as healthy.
I think Misty ment Store,not story
Maranda Dave has a copy of Mistys letter on line .Only the first one.The second hasnt been released yet.
Thought: Even Jaycee Duggard stayed loyal to her kidnapper and rapist. She felt sad that he got caught, etc. I think this is a normal reaction to repeated raping (and in a situation where no one helps her and blames her for the issue OR they have intense guilt).
I think there are so many deep psychological things going on with Misty, that she truly may not know fantasy from reality, a dream from reality, etc. She may not want to be blamed again for telling on those two people. That is ingrained in her brain.
She writes worse than a third grader! A lot of times people will spell a word the way it sounds to them, not knowing it gives a whole different meaning, or mix up contractions or words such as the, they, them, that/or/know, no, now.
I know someone who continually puts “all” for the words “I will”. That is what he ‘hears’. He never learned differently! “All be right back”. Misty says things like: “But they is all for now”.
She also writes things like: “I don’t know how much longer I can take of it”.
Or I think a main part is her disorganization of the sequence of events (to the simplest things). This may explain why the contradictions in her story (esp. the LDT).
For example: In the letter she says:
“I knew they was coming to get the gun he has. I didn’t know it was gone and that is when Joe got mad. TOM HAD WORLDCOM ?(the TV guy?) ? AND that is when joe took it, you know. I don’t know where tommy went. I don’t think he did sh!! but I know he now joe did”.
A normal sequence is an undistorted drugged damaged brain might go quite differently. She mentions a “they” that are coming to get the gun. She also says that Joe got mad when he realized the gun was gone. But then the next sentence, she says that is when Joe took it.
So very confusing. But I think she means that the gun was gone with Tommy and possibly the worldcom guy. She mentions no names, which makes it difficult to determine who she is talking about. Read it this way, in a correct sequence of time/events, with names and the meaning changes.
“I knew Joe was coming to get the gun Ron has. Tom had the worldcom or whirlpool? guy over. And that is when Joe got mad and that is when Joe took the gun, ya know. I don’t know where tommy went. I didn’t know he was gone. I don’t think he did sh!! but I know he knows joe did”.
Still doesn’t explain where Haleigh is.
Jan, drug addiction is horrible and I really don’t think people understand the ins and outs of it. Their way of life is what they know and how they survive. I beleive Ron and Misty are innocent too. Misty has so many strikes against her (family, socio/economic, educational, mental, etc). Then add in drugs, etoh and rapes. Not to mention she was 17 when this happened! Sad as it is, I think Theresa and Ron were her only way out of that life (even though we all don’t see it much better with Ron). But we don’t know how it was for her before Ron, except all the bad stuff we have heard. She never had a chance.
I think this is why she was proud of Haleigh and Jr. calling her ‘momma’. She referred to Haleigh as ‘our daughter’. Ron as ‘my husband’, and many other things like ‘our back door’ ‘our bed’ ‘our house’,…because this was her ‘dream family’ that she never had. Was it perfect, NO! Did Misty continue to struggle with Addiction? Did she ‘use’ partly to hide her pain?
But when Ron married her, you could see how happy she was! This was the highlight of her life! Someone ‘LOVED’ her. Theresa Loved her too and trusted what she said and protected her. Her own momma told the media she knows misty is lying. Her own daddy tells her he knows tommy isn’t lying and that she better tell the truth. (Her internal system shuts down more and more). She cries like a 3 or 4 year old that she is hungry….so many signs of deep issues.
Look what her own GMa said about her “she kept going over to Joe’s, so she must of liked it”. Not only does that say how messed up and ignorant her family’s thinking and value system is, but it says a lot about Misty and her mentality.
Misty says that no one believed her. She says that she was accused of lying about her brother and joe molesting her all her life and was then blamed and punished for it. So when a crime is committed, do you think she is going to directly tell on her brother or joe, just to be accused of lying and get punished?
NO, she has a “learned behavior”. She is traumatized and carefully points LE in their direction, but they continue to focus on her!!
This is severely painful for her, she can’t tell what is right and what is wrong. She does the only thing she knows how. She is a Child herself! 17 with the mentality of a 12 year old.
That’s my take on Misty! Just an opinion so you know.
JenM and Jan57, really appreciate your posts. Wish I had time to reply but I must go to bed. Thanks for the compassionate perspectives, really helps me feel better about people. And Jaba,wherever you are, I am still giggling every then and again about you gettin’ on your Ron Strut and “who are they to judge me and Ron!”
Jen,
I have the same view re Misty and the way she acts. I feel very sorry for her. Her childhood was about as bad as it gets, and she was still a child when this happened. Very sad.
Great post, JenM!
I feel sorry for Misty, too. In one of her jail vids, she talks about learning to read. She’s hoping to LEARN TO READ and she’s 18 y/o. And then that business w/ Granny Flo sayin’ Jo molested Misty and Misty must’ve liked it since she always wanted to go see Jo… goodness… Poor kid… never really had a chance.
jmo
Yeah, I don’t know if it means she did or didn’t do anything to Haleigh, but its not very likely I don’t think. But we still don’t know who did what. But there are a lot of young kids in the same situation as her and will wind up the same.
Funny part is though, I can’t help thinking that all Joe and Tommy did was get drunk and high and steal Ron’s gun. And all Misty did was get trashed, go to sleep and when she woke up, Haleigh was gone.
I so hope that Misty is alive somewhere. I went to my grandaughters graduation today from pre-school. She is 5 and goes to Kindergarten in Sept. I wanted to cry when I saw all those sweet little 5 year olds singing to us. One of the songs (don’t know the name)that goes like this: I’ll spread my wings and I’ll learn how to fly, …. (and they were all flapping their arms like birds). I truly thought of Haliegh and how what happened is so unfair to her. She could of been graduating today from her school. So sad!!!
JB said,in May 20th, 2010 at 8:23 am ThugCops4Christ said,in May 20th, 2010 at 12:24 am Does anyone know details about Joe Overstreet’s belongings being dumped at a gas station on the way home to Tennessee?
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…Thanks for posting this info! Going to go read some transcripts now!
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No problem at all. Would really like to know more about it myself.
Cate, 😉 thanks!
Doesn’t ron look a little like kevin federline in a way?
I feel sorry for the families for the decisions they have made to put them where they are.
They need to pay for whatever crime they are ajudicated fairly and found guilty of, just like I would be.
D MO, Thanks for your reply~ Okie22 posted the link where Leonard Padilla talks about the clothing. I did not get his whole statement; need to listen to it again, but thank you for the link, Okie!
i meant okie222!
Me again. I forgot to mention Cricket’s link, which was first. Okie’s transcribed the whole show for anyone (else) who might have trouble hearing everything Leonard says on the video.
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