I suspect that my good friend over at The Sky 97.3 TJ Hart might have these running already over on his site. But I will publish the tapes anyway, I am sure that there are some folks that have not heard them.
This DVD contains conversations between Tommy Croslin and his wife Lindsay Croslin.
It would be easy to offer some ‘Op Ed’ on these tapes, but I think I will refrain. The entire Haleigh Cummings story is so sad that to even discuss the family is enough to give even the most seasoned seafarer a case of Sea sickness.
Do any of these tapes help find Haleigh Cummings? The answer has to be a resounding NO. But they do reveal much about the family dynamics involved in both the Croslin and Cummings families.
Once again, there are large files, it will take a few minutes to download the files.
Simon and Jan Barrett
271 users commented in " Haleigh Cummings – Yet More Jail Vids – DVD 3 "
Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackGeez still on the ones from Saturday!!!
thanks simon and jannie
THANKS SIMON AND JAN! Wonder if I can kick my kid off of itunes so I can listen to them. hmmmmmmm…..chores sound like they have been neglected lately!
Without tapes from Ronald, I don’t see any insight into the Cummings family no matter how many times that is written. The tapes we’ve seen so far are prior to Tommy telling the Joe version so I don’t see why anyone buys any lies these lying liars tell.
The post-Joe phone calls were pretty interesting though and if these tapes are post-Joe they probably are too. If LE knows that Joe is not involved, they should shut these people up by saying so as soon as they can.
Thanks Simon for your work to get these for us.
Mr. and Mrs. Barrett, Thank you very much! I certainly wish there were someway to help offset the expense you incur to post these tapes. Please know many would welcome being able to do so.. as would I! Thank you, your work is so very much appreciated!!
(PS Jaba) Your comment on the last thread was brilliant!! I truly think you should pursue it, and what a life long gift you would be facilitating for this family. (Please read my comments if you have left that thread.) I doubt they (VH1) will be getting the Lindsey Lohan’s, and you’re absolutely correct… reality TV is reality TV, I don’t mean that rudely, it is just a fact.
omg more tapes,whhooohooo,Ill brb gotta run to the store,Oj said new article but he left out TAPES!
Sorry Jnet again,I left you a msg on the board we were in brb
Thanks Ever So Much Simon And Jan for giving me a place to hear the news without N/G!
CathyJo63 said,in May 24th, 2010 at 5:43 pm Thanks Ever So Much Simon And Jan for giving me a place to hear the news without N/G!
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I left you a post in the last “thread” regarding the Croslins FYI
CathyJo63 said,in May 24th, 2010 at 5:40 pm omg more tapes,whhooohooo,Ill brb gotta run to the store,Oj said new article but he left out TAPES!
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yes dear..won’t happen again 😉
jvm going psycho on the haleigh case
JVM is clueless once again. It is quite laughable watching the so called news media report the wrong thing over and over again.
the audio clips jvm plays are out of context
OJ anything new on the case to share. I’m listening to JVM. I am getting to the point that I can’t handle her or NG.
We are all on the same page . Wish one of us could get through but the proably wouldn’t let us on air.
simon and jan always have the latest bio..
levi calls misty a spoiled brat??
what an idiot!
she was raised in the street..hows that spoiled? the moron!
Yesterday we were wondering about the rumours around the Shffeilds I tried to google it. The only thing I came found was from this site. Chrystal testeded pos. to drugs with the birth of last babies birth. Baby born addictive too. Could this be rumour
JVM has stuff on this case tonight.
Art harris saying tommy went with joe to dump body. I think I heard that right.
baby born addicted? now thats a new one…
source please.
Yes much thanks Barretts for your efforts. I am not able to hear the shows so I count on the Barretts + the wonderful folks on this blog. Do any of you use other blogs? I find the days without discusion on Haleigh’s case hard. Miss my new blog friends.
I’d like to punch levi in the face..
and ask him whats up with that hair, wackjob!
are you going to ignore my question bio?
source please..for the baby born addicted!
His hair is questionable. I’m no looker, but that ‘do’ he’s sportin’ could use an update for TV. And it sounds like he’s skypeing from a garage. So much echo and the lighting sucks.
He’s on tv and I’m not, so, maybe I should shut up 🙂
ON may 16 2009 on bloggers news.
I think he’s talking about her whining from jail as being spoiled. She’s a me first person on most tapes we’ve heard. So is tommy.
The best of the tapes are yet to come my friends!
Bio,no it is fact and she failed one after she got custody of Jr. after Haleigh was missing?
thats what i dont get Bio,everybodys so forgiving of her and its her daughter whose missing and she fails after Chloe could have dies at her hands too!!
OK I’m not as fast on sourcing posts. But never would I not ignore you OJ.
I read about crystals baby being born with drugs in her system on this site somewhere, I’m pretty sure. I think cathy may have posted it from an article written. Its was about cobra and kim p. the attorney iirc.
thats what i dont get Bio,everybodys so forgiving of her and its her daughter whose missing and she fails after she gets custody of JR.Chloe could have died at her hands too!!
stop your taunting Sillygirl,i know how ya are!!LoL
Jnet,
Saw them. Its as good as anything else I’ve heard with all the limitations the family has right now for employment in their area.
COOP was looking into helping them down there. We’ll see what she finds out about their situaton etc….
This just in from TJ Hart – Simon
Rumors have been swirling all week that hearing was held early this week regarding the custody status of Ronald Cummings Jr., the young brother of missing 6-year-old Satsuma girl Haleigh Cummings. He is the son of Ronald Cummings Sr, who is now in jail on drug trafficking charges, and Crystal Sheffield of Baker County.
According to the rumors, Crystal Sheffield allegedly failed a drug test yet the young boy remains with her in her Baker County home.
Since WSKY has had no luck in locating the records of this DCF hearing, I contacted Crystal’s mother Marie Griffis for confirmation.
I told Marie that there is talk that Butterbean remains at home, but that Crystal may have failed a drug test due to the ingestion of a Loritab pill.
Marie Griffis responded:
“I will say yes that is true, all the other stuff on the internet came from the ones scorned (that is all I will say about them). Please let everyone know that Crystal is doing what DCF wants her too, Crystal has needed these therapies that they are offering she has dealt with a lot losing a child a second time and maybe this time permanently and on top of that, everyone in the home will receive some type of therapy. Chad’s children have been affected by HaLeigh’s disappearance, they are all like brothers and sisters. Update on Butterbean he is doing great he is very happy and loving being with his Mommy he gets very upset when she has to be away from him from 3hrs to go to her classes but he understands why. We have explained everything to him that we feel he understands, he just simply wants to be with his Mommy.”
Thanks
Marie
One of the attorneys on JVM said of the tapes:
This is why lawyers instruct their clients not to talk about their case on the jail phones nor to the press. It can’t help you, only hurt you.
I wonder what the next set of tapes will bring and how opions may change.
bio-hazzard said,
in May 24th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Yesterday we were wondering about the rumours around the Shffeilds I tried to google it. The only thing I came found was from this site. Chrystal testeded pos. to drugs with the birth of last babies birth. Baby born addictive too. Could this be rumour
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Thanks for checking
Hi Cathyjo I found the drug article when I googled Sheffeild rumours + Haleifg cummings case
bio-hazzard said,in May 24th, 2010 at 6:30 pm ON may 16 2009 on bloggers news.
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Wrong! just read the articles on haleigh posted on that date..no such info on baby being born addicted. Thats how rumors get started bio.
CathyJo63 said,in May 24th, 2010 at 6:42 pm The Department of Children and Families became aware of the allegations of drug use by Crystal. DCF requested a random toxicology test of Crystal Sheffield, during the course of their investigation, as they found it relevant to investigate Crystal’s fitness as a parent. At that time, in June 2009, I learned from DCF that Crystal’s infant daughter, Chloe, not even one (1) year of age, had been born with illegal narcotics in her system due to Crystal’s drug use during her pregnancy. The DCF caseworker had not informed me of this DCF case against my client, and I had no prior knowledge of the case until that time. DCF dismissed the investigation against Ronald Cummings, without explanation. I felt as if I was only being told relevant information by the family, after a fiasco had occurred. I could not represent a client who was not being honest with me, and was taking illegal drugs. To make matters worse, In April 2009, Crystal admitted to me that she had taken unprescribed pain m
Glad to hear her say JR is doing well. I hope so. He probably has lots of playmates. That’s cool.
yes there is oj,by dcf! dude!!!!
Silly girl you have perked my interest on new tapes. Give a little hint.
thats was a reason KP quit!!
jaba said,
in May 24th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Art harris saying tommy went with joe to dump body. I think I heard that right.
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Is there any audio, of Tom meme, his lawyer, Joe, or witness to collaborate that Jaba?
I ask because often Art Harris seems to be full of chit.
kp sent the reply to the bar complaint! it is true!
Baby born with drugs in her system is what was said, right? How do we know there was no addiction? The medical records aren’t out there to show that one way or the other.
LOL CathyJo but those are the good ones. Tommy finds out about Hopes jail sentence and flips, and the Lindsy/Tommy one is where she finds out he failed the poly and accuses Tommy of taking his sister’s side. Also talks about the “incestuous Croslins”
OJ’s glove said,in May 24th, 2010 at 6:22 pm baby born addicted? now thats a new one…
source please.
i did!!!!!! LoL AND ITS TRUE! NOT A RUMOR,IT WAS IN kp BAR COMPLAINT FOR THE SHEFFIELDS! ONE REASON SHE QUIT REPERESNTING HER,ONE OF MANY BUT I DON’T TRUST KP MYSELF EITHER!
Ooops sorry caps
anybody knows there was an addiction!
it came out ill go get all the proof,cause i know thats true!
I agree, I am reporting art harris’ reporting where he received a report that eventually reported to me through JVm and I, in turn, report it to you with this report.
I agree, I am reporting art harris’ reporting where he received a report that eventually reported to me through JVm and I, in turn, report it to you with this report.
why she had no job,thats why she had seizures,now those 2 i cant prove but i believe,and yes she failed a drug test for lortab after she got custody of jr this time? i hear she’s in rehab now so i congratulate her but she’s no better than ron or misty!
CathyJo63 said,in May 24th, 2010 at 6:43 pm yes there is oj,by dcf! dude!!!!
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WRONG!..bio said the baby was born ADDICTED!
I ask her to source that..
the source she gave does not say that..
the c&p you posted says BORN with drugs in system..
there is a difference.
/me tempts sillygirl with a big ole red juicy lollipop!
I remember seeing the Crystal’s baby testing positive story now. From the Kim P statements she made relating to the complaints filed against her in the Crystal lawsuit. She mentioned how Crystal was doing drugs, and as a result was having seizures.
Are people watching over her baby and JR to be sure people aren’t doing any drugs around them?
After all it might me partly related to why Haleigh disappeared.
WRONG ILL SHOW YA!OJ.LOL
You don’t have to convince me.
It was someone else who screamed ‘wrong’ to the post by bio.
I read it like I stated.
I believe if there were drugs in the childs system that she’s likely addicted because I doubt it was crystal only doing it once.
She has a track record of use.
Ill be off on a scavengerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr hunt just for OJ!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JAN!
I hope you have a wonderful day filled with family and friends! 🙂
Thank you for all your efforts on behalf or HaLeigh and all the children!
And thank you and Simon both for bringing us all these tapes. I know it is time consuming!
I love lollipops! Especially red ones…
The thing about the baby was in Kim Picazio’s bar complaint response. It didn’t say addicted that I remember but did say she had illegal drugs in her system.
NO I WAS playing with oj,didnt know i screamed it tho,sorry
anyhoo i shall return wiff proof to OJJJJJJJJJJJJJ
But I have no medical records to offer.
NO,I DID NOT MEAN BABY BORN ADDICTED BUT IT SAID THERE WERE ILLEGAL NARCOTICS IN cHLOES SYSYETM!
I’d like to see the un-redacted tapes from the drug busts.
CathyJo63 said,
in May 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
thats what i dont get Bio,everybodys so forgiving of her and its her daughter whose missing and she fails after Chloe could have dies at her hands too!!
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Exactly! one thing I didn’t like was her going on tv denigrating Ron and why she lost custody, as really the issue was finding her daughter. IMO
Also, with all the scrutiny out there, and the state being aware she uses drugs they hand her back JR. WTF? Hope there are stringent tests and checks on her parenting for the children s sake.
it was bio who said baby addicted…
I mearly asked her to source that…
she hasn’t!
and shes not posting either..interesting..
Slow down cathy, I said it was a response to bio, not you.:)
Crystal didn’t just take one tablet the day before birth. She probably, yes probably, took them prior and who knows what effect it had on chloe. We don’t have the diagnosis and treatment reports to verify it at this point and probably won’t.
Ng going with the lohan story tonight, no croslin tapes unless that’s in the latter half of the show or something.
Interesting we don’t hear more on the trafficking tapes, interesting.
why does NG hate lyndsey? shes innocent!
OK I am not starting rumours! I took the article to say born with addiction. Don’t be shy about your opinion OJ.
More tapes; new article!
ok bio..an innocent mistake..
thank you
Lyndsay could do 180 days. Maybe someone can sneak something in to her so she can cope in jail.
I don’t think she makes until july 6th with the scram bracelt and random drug testing. They should test her tomorrow bright and early. That poor girl is in it deep.
Woo hooo! I hope these are the one’s.
On the recording ‘Tommy One’:
Tom: I was talkin’ to my dad and my mom yesterday, and they don’t believe nothing
Misty says either.
Everyone knows she’s liein’.
Lindsy: Yeah, I know. I aint worried about it.
Tom: I aint either. Don’t bother me one bit.
Lindsy: It does sometimes me, but today, I don’t mind. (giggles).
Tom: Who cares, you know she’s liein’ anyway, so.
Lindsy: Oh, I know, but it’s just – you know, you don’t like to . . .
Tom: I think she’s even liein’ about Joe . . . she wasn’t she would’ve told us.
Lindsy: Yeah, I know, out of all people, you know what I mean, she would
definately have told I would think.
Tom: Yeah, especially since he was on his way home. On the interstate in a car. Couldn’t get to her at all.
Lindsy: Yeah, I didn’t think about it that way, but you’re right.
Tom: You know? And there’s all the police around us. There’s no way he could of got to her. I was told he was supposed to have put a knife to her . . . (stutters) to her throat and told her, said if she told he would kill her. That’s what I was told.
Lindsy: . . . he’d kill – I heard the same thing.
Tom: He couldn’t do that if he was on his way to Tennessee in a car. They’d pulled, (stutters) pulled his ass over and got him.
Crystal is an addict. Any person that will risk there child’s safety while in the womb has to be an addict.
Crystal knew the kind of life Ron lived, yet she did nothing for herself or her children to change the situation.
My heart goes out to the 2 children Crystal still has that are alive. Gee, what a wonderful life they have to look forward to. Mom an addict, Ron in prison, sister dead, etc..SAD PITIFUL
Who killed Haleigh and WHY??
jaba said,
in May 24th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
I agree, I am reporting art harris’ reporting where he received a report that eventually reported to me through JVm and I, in turn, report it to you with this report.
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I understand that jaba, I wanted to know if the show/radio/blog reporters’ sources were named.
Sorry, not the tapes I was hoping for. Poor Jan and Simon must be going crazy loading these. It is amongst the last set that was released, so hopefully soon.
Misty Cummings talked candidly on the CBS Early show Friday, but she didn’t waste any time pointing fingers at who she thinks knows where Haleigh is. “I feel likeCBS News says Misty Cummings provides new details about the night that Haleigh Cummings vanished in part two of an “Early Show” interview. Misty Cummings was baby-sitting for the child when she disappeared from her father’s Satsuma home in February.
The Department of Children and Families became aware of the allegations of drug use by Crystal. DCF requested a random toxicology test of Crystal Sheffield, during the course of their investigation, as they found it relevant to investigate Crystals fitness as a parent.
At that time, in June 2009, I learned from DCF that Crystals infant daughter, Chloe, not even one (1) year of age, had been born with illegal narcotics in her system due to Crystals drug use during her pregnancy. The DCF caseworker had not informed me of this DCF case against my client, and I had no prior knowledge of the case until that time. DCF dismissed the investigation against Ronald Cummings, without explanation.
I felt as if I was only being told relevant information by the family, after a fiasco had occurred. I could not represent a client who was not being honest with me, and was taking illegal drugs. To make matters worse,
In April 2009, Crystal admitted to me that she had taken unprescribed pain medication. Further, her mother, Marie Griffis, reported to me that Crystal had stolen her step-fathers pain medication after he had surgery in April 2009.
I was extremely concerned over my clients drug use. Crystal assured me that it was not an addiction, and that it had only taken a few pills due to back pain from an old car accident. In April, 2009, Crystal suffered another seizure, and was taken to the hospital by ambulance. All of these incidents played out loudly in the media. Despite my requests to family and friends to withhold all comments to the media about Crystals seizures, they defied my recommendations. As such, I then was forced to issue numerous press statements regarding Crystals status.
A vindication? I do not think so. A most telling statement comes from William Cobra Staubs:
Kim Picazio and I had conflicts during the case because she adamantly defended her client. During the course of the case, I personally witnessed Crystal Sheffield take illegal narcotics on several occasions. I attempted to tell Kim that her client was doing drugs.
Kim Picazio did not want me releasing this information to the public. I confronted Crystals family about her drug use, and they believed she should be put in rehab. I was present at a meeting between Crystal Sheffield and her Father,
Link to latest information on this case, sworn testimony of Kim Picazio lawyer for mother Crystal Sheffield reveals lies and more lies by Crystal Sheffield, her mother and maybe her lawyer as well. Is Kim Picazio trying to protect herself from something by giving such a detailed response including many of Crystal’s illegal activities and information that Marie Griffis and Crystal Sheffield were very worried their phones were tapped by law enforcement in the days and months since little Haleigh went missing? Maggie Rodriguez conducted the interview, which concludes Monday. The first part aired this morning.
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Rodriguez: “Your brother told police that when he went to the trailer that night, that you were supposedly putting Haleigh to bed — that you weren’t there. Did you go somewhere that night?”
Cummings: “No, I did not. Did not leave my house at all.”
Rodriguez: “Why did he tell police you weren’t there?”
Cummings: “Trying to get out of jail, that’s what I think.”
Rodriguez: “So your brother was in jail”
Cummings: “Yeah, he was in jail.”
Rodriguez: “Your own brother would betray you like that?”
Cummings: “That’s how my family is.”
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Having trouble finding the one to prove it,lol figures itll be the one hiding,still looking tho!
bio-hazzard said,
in May 24th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
OK I am not starting rumours! I took the article to say born with addiction. Don’t be shy about your opinion OJ.
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Hi bio, I think it is an easy mistake to make. There is a difference of course but the point is mom and baby had narcotics in them, very sad isn’t it.
NO OJ,i dunno baby was addicted but just as bad to me? somehow!
Thanks for checking for me Cathyjo. Yes OJ I am interesting.
aba said,
in May 24th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
I’d like to see the un-redacted tapes from the drug busts.
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oh yes
Haleigh Cummings and the Sheffield Family Says:
January 12, 2010 at 11:20 am | Reply
The Department of Children and Families became aware of the allegations of drug use by Crystal. DCF requested a random toxicology test of Crystal Sheffield, during the course of their investigation, as they found it relevant to investigate Crystals fitness as a parent. At that time, in June 2009, I learned from DCF that Crystals infant daughter, Chloe, not even one (1) year of age, had been born with illegal narcotics in her system due to Crystals drug use during her pregnancy. The DCF caseworker had not informed me of this DCF case against my client, and I had no prior knowledge of the case until that time. DCF dismissed the investigation against Ronald Cummings, without explanation.
I felt as if I was only being told relevant information by the family, after a fiasco had occurred. I could not represent a client who was not being honest with me, and was taking illegal drugs. To make matters worse, In April 2009, Crystal admitted to me that she had taken unprescribed pain medication. Further, her mother, Marie Griffis, reported to me that Crystal had stolen her step-fathers pain medication after he had surgery in April 2009. I was extremely concerned over my clients drug use. Crystal assured me that it was not an addiction, and that it had only taken a few pills due to back pain from an old car accident. In April, 2009, Crystal suffered another seizure, and was taken to the hospital by ambulance. All of these incidents played out loudly in the media. Despite my requests to family and friends to withhold all comments to the media about Crystals seizures, they defied my recommendations. As such, I then was forced to issue numerous press statements regarding Crystals status.
A vindication? I do not think so. A most telling statement comes from William Cobra Staubs:
Kim Picazio and I had conflicts during the case because she adamantly defended her client. During the course of the case, I personally witnessed Crystal Sheffield take illegal narcotics on several occasions. I attempted to tell Kim that her client was doing drugs. Kim Picazio did not want me releasing this information to the public. I confronted Crystals family about her drug use, and they believed she should be put in rehab. I was present at a meeting between Crystal Sheffield and her Father,
hi CathyJo , hi homespain , hi Jaba, hi everyone ,
whewwwww lively posting guys, trying to read and catch up
HP,
Just funning with you on my report.
No, art didn’t say where that came from specifically. Typical, huh?
Hey Chak.:)
Art always has “special phantom” sources lol
BOLDONE3 said,
in May 24th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Crystal is an addict. Any person that will risk there child’s safety while in the womb has to be an addict.
Crystal knew the kind of life Ron lived, yet she did nothing for herself or her children to change the situation.
My heart goes out to the 2 children Crystal still has that are alive. Gee, what a wonderful life they have to look forward to. Mom an addict, Ron in prison, sister dead, etc..SAD PITIFUL
Who killed Haleigh and WHY??
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AMEN
Amen!!!!!!!!
Hi Chakra,sorry couldn’t see ya there for OJ!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks again Cathyjo for finding and posting about Chloe. Going to bed with Zoe throat will read posts tomorrow. Silly girl red lolly pops for a little insight.
Good night bloggers. Especially you OJ
yvw Bio!!!!!! n/p i am all hyped up wiff new tapes and OJ makes me scavnge! grrrrrrrrrr j/k OJ,Put the dart back down very gently…there you go!
addicted or not if theyre in an innocent babys system,risk your own life if you want,not others!
Hello Chakra how r u tonight?
I listened to the first tape on this page, and Tommy does a wonderful job of explaining why its B.S. that Misty was afraid of Joe
its funny two weeks later he decides to try and use the I was afraid of Joe until now defense, I guess he forgot what he said ON TAPE previously
Tom: I think she’s even liein’ about Joe . . . she wasn’t she would’ve told us.
Lindsy: Yeah, I know, out of all people, you know what I mean, she would
definately have told I would think.
Tom: Yeah, especially since he was on his way home. On the interstate in a car. Couldn’t get to her at all.
Lindsy: Yeah, I didn’t think about it that way, but you’re right.
Tom: You know? And there’s all the police around us. There’s no way he could of got to her. I was told he was supposed to have put a knife to her . . . (stutters) to her throat and told her, said if she told he would kill her. That’s what I was told.
Lindsy: . . . he’d kill – I heard the same thing.
Tom: He couldn’t do that if he was on his way to Tennessee in a car. They’d pulled, (stutters) pulled his ass over and got him.
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but he’s scared of him…..sheeeeeesh!
rofl@Chakra……gmta!
maybe they should play that tape back for tommy?
brb
You guys know more about this case than I do. I come on hear to read what you all have to say. I skip theories.
All I know is what I posted earlier about Crystal being an addict (as well as Ron)is why this child is gone.
Misty & Tommy know what happened?? Correct??
So when do we get to hear Tommy’s side?? Because NOTHING Misty states I believe. She is move obsessed with Ronald than anything else.
Tommy must have told the truth by now, and LE is holding information back from public.
Agree or NO??
tommy should have gargled with cement on his first day in jail. Hed be better off.
I’m great homespain, thanks
he didnt wanna hear about his kids walking holding hands but hes sure worried about her job?
gr brb
CathyJo63
yea and I thought Joe had Haleigh in the van- tommy saw but joe didnt know. joe had a knife up to him? HA
if he culd hear himslef!
Boldone,
I agree. Whatever they are holding back is much more evidencial than what’s been released. Imo anyway.
Are we really sure Joe played a part in Haleigh’s death? IMO it was ALL Misty!!!
Can you tell I can’t stand her???
BOLDONE3
Tommy tells he was with Joe that night -Misty wrote some letter saying they were real messed up crazy. I think IMO what happened was misty left the door was unlocked- ron told tommy to check on misty – he went by with Joe- either they killed her or misty by druggin her- tommy and joe dump the body- misty covering for her bro her bro coverin for her.
I’m not a fan of any of this cast of players. But with all the publicity concerning the neglect of these children, DCFS will be on their toes concerning Crystals children. and their well being. DCFS cannot afford the national publicity one of these children could be harmed. DCFS employees involved could lose their job and/or be sued. It’s easy for us to sit back and criticize children services for what they haven’t done. If we only knew what they deal with on a daily basis our hair would stand on ends. Think DCFS will keep a close tab on Crystal. I hope she heeds to to help they offer for her childrens sake.
CathyJo- I would love to see them play the tapes back in front of tommy lol
Silly Girl – is there any more Misty tapes ??
Chakra7 – There are no more Misty tapes. The rest are of Tommy. But they are good.
theres more on new article Chakra
Bold,imho only i think Tommy did it all alone!
if tommy sayin joe was driving to TN how can that be true if timmy said he woke up and joe slept with his clothes on.
sillygirl
I cant wait! isnt lindsy tellin tommy off?
imho Misty hasn’t a clue of where Haleigh is?
in what tape ? tellin tommy off??
SillyGirl- thanks can’t wait ,
CathyJo- thanks I didn’t see that
I’m gonna have to spread out the Tommy’s , I can’t take to many of those at once LOL
I think misty knows who was there that night and took Haleigh.
CathyJo63
I read a letter from tommys attorney- it said tommy went to the dock 3 times for the search before misty went. she knows where she is prob was home with jr while tommy dumped the body. i think with joe.
Yes she tells him off and lays the foundation for the divorce. Hopefully they will have the rest of the dvds up tomorrow.
i think cobras tapes are very telling.rc started misleading le in the very beginning reguarding joe.cobra also was set up twice to be taken out..they wanted him out of there he was getting to close to the truth.jmo
sillygirl
i bet the cops got to her and thats why the turn around. she lied for him. she doesnt want to lose her kids-go to jail.
I honestly don’t think Tommy knows squat! I could be wrong, but with the latest release, Misty, Ron and Timmy are now on my radar.
Sillygirl
yea i think timmy for sure too knows what happened. i will have to hear the rest-
why do you think rons involved??? please tell me 🙂
She says to him that he made her look like a fool, and that she stood by him for nothing because now she looks stupid. Of course Tommy asks why is she being that way, and the looks she gives is priceless!
sotrue
whatd u mean – u think they were gonna kill cobra?
I can’t get 2 to play?
Sillygirl
WOW thats telling cant wait to see it.
Jaba- All the tapes they have released have been pretty juicy (or most ) can you imagine what they have redacted……lol
Too many reasons to list why I think Ronnie is involved. But I would bet my life on it!(Sorry Ronfan 🙂 JMHO. Also it was interesting to hear how Tim sneaks out of the house at night.
omg i hope not Kristie!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hopefully Simon is treating Jan to a nice Birthday dinner and they will get the last set up tomorrow.
kristie,wheres the letter?
wonder why Nancy Grace hasn’t ripped into these on her show yet?
Chak,
Its juicy already but yeah, a redaction revealed is always good.
I don’t know that any of this juice helps explain Haleigh to a certainty yet.
CathyJo63
Ill find it- I promise I read it BRB
SillyGirl-
I think Timmy knows also and Chelsea, I think thats why they got out of dodge
Chakra7 – If you time the tapes, not much has been redacted from them. Each visit is 50 minutes long, and when I was watching them most of them were only missing about 5-10 minutes. That to me is very telling.
no thats opk,ill look!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kristie,i believe you,i just got real interested,lol
if you listen to cobs tapes yes i think they tried to set him up in the woods and again rc trying to get him in a mexican mafia house.thats what i heard.jmo
I think Tim could be involved because of the way Chelsea immediately pointed the finger at Joe and how fast they got out of town. Also the fact that Chelsea now thinks it’s safe to return. Buttttt…. If Hayleigh was in that van, they (LE) would have never returned it. My guess is the van got to Ron’s house, but was not used for anything devious.
Jaba – your exactly right , I truly hope after this crazy circus, in the end their is justice for HaLeigh ,
Has cobra talked about that on the radio show, sotrue?
SillyGirl- yes it was Very interesting to hear how Timmy sneaks out hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
heres an artical where is attorney said he took a poly april 8 then led cops to the dock –
im still looking for the one where his attorney said 3 times he went there.
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100416/ARTICLES/100419505?p=1&tc=pg
The radio show here , I meant.
Sillygirl
isnt it funny now how misty said im not sure if joe did anything
tommy said joe didnt do it
before they were sayin he was sick crazy and scared of him.
14 hrs with Chelsea too stands for something!
imo tho…..so does the tattoo!
im not sure about radio show but i listened to the tapes..maybe simon nos if he did..jmo
Poor cousin Joe may be crazy, may be a lune, but I do not believe he had anything to do with this.
Sillygirl- Great point on the van very true, I know they never returned Casey Anthonys car,
your right these tapes do seem a lot less redacted , a LE tactic for sure
sotrue
I saw that video of TN takin him out in the woods- she SAID she took off cuz a snake but who knows..
(it was funny cuz cobra said she didnt mention it to us and left us here-i aint scared of a snake)
I doubt the mofia would kill cobra? lots of people knew he was there.
CathyJo – 14 Hours??
me either silly!
when they went to interview chelse i believe in Mass after the last search?
The rc involment will surprise me, not shock me, if he was involved.
Misty and tommy know something, imo, for sure.
Not sure on Joe.
Wondering what chelsea, timmy and lyndsy know.
The search in August? With the whole “Rose” thing?
Cobra was a snakes name too,lol
i have always thought something was wrong with tn on that vid,if i’d seen a snake idv’e been on his back??
ron won’t shock me either Jbaba! nor will TN!
no,m wait ill find it for ya! sillygirl!
I think poor Lindsy has been left in the dark about all of it by everyone. To me, she would be the only person willing to tell the truth. The only one not doped up half the time.
it was said that it was an area where the guy there starts shooting if you go on his property.i dont think there was a snake.but thats. jmo.id like to ask cob myself.
Jaba- wow really , you don’t think Rons involved , has Ron Fan gotten to you , or is it all the Ron and pimp research lol
Thanks CathyJo. I must have missed that one about the 14 hours.
As the Haleigh Cummings homicide investigation appears to be nearing completion, Hank “Tommy” Croslin, Jr.’s wife Lindsey has stepped into the spotlight. Tommy Croslin is the brother
of Misty Croslin Cummings who was babysitting Haleigh the night she disappeared. Tommy led police this week to the Shell Harbour Boat Ramp on the St. John’s river. Information from Tommy Croslin apparently caused police to recast the search for Haleigh as a homicide investigation.
On the Levi Page show on Blogtalkradio Sunday, bounty hunter Leonard Padilla discussed Lindsey’s apparent dismay that Tommy Croslin took a polygraph while she was out of town visiting brother-in-law and sister-in-law Timmy and Chelsea Croslin in Massachusetts. She’s acting the part of the betrayed wife, but does the betrayal go deeper than Tommy’s keeping criminal knowledge from Lindsey?
Chelsea Croslin, like Lindsey, also appears to have acquired specific knowledge as to key events surrounding Haleigh Cummings’ presumed death. While news to police and a captivated public, the location on the St. John’s river where Tommy may have indicated Haleigh’s body was disposed- site of an extensive search last week- apparently was not news to Tommy’s sister-in-law Chelsea Croslin. According to Padilla, Chelsea suggested March 14 that the same area be searched and even helpfully drew him a map! And Chelsea now claims she had been suggesting that same search location to police ever since Haleigh disappeared. Her reason for suggesting a search of that area allegedly related to its familiarity to Croslin family scapegoat Joe Overstreet. But two months ago, another motive sufaced. Chelsea allegedly received a heretofore secret letter from Misty Croslin Cummings identifying the site as the place cousin Joe dumped Haleigh’s body.
So all along Chelsea was pointing to what is now believed to be the location of Haleigh Cummings’ body. And what of her sister-in-law Lindsey?
does anybody have a link for the 14 hr ?ing of chelsea,i cant find em when i needem’lol
i wonder if lindsey learned some info in Mass??
oh cathyJo – I know thats true, the 14 hours but I can’t remember where we heard it
cathyjo
what kinda attorney does tommy have my goodness-
Werter also says Croslin was forced at gunpoint to go with Overstreet to the St. Johns River when Overstreet was disposing of Haleigh’s body.
HA now tommy says it aint true
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=155977
(im still lookin for the letter-im gonna find it)!
I think Chelsea was continuing to spin the “Joe” theory while Lindsy was in Mass. I believe that Linds found out from Tommy’s lawyer that he FAILED! She says “you can’t even answer just one question truthfully? I look like a fool now”
Jerry Santos, a neighbor or Ronald Cummings, may have been among the last few people to see Haleigh Cummings before she vanished. It was Monday, Feb. 9, and he’d just walked his children to the bus stop in Satsuma when Ronald came racing by, in such a hurry, he later told investigators, Haleigh’s father “ran a stop sign” and came too close for comfort.
“He missed me by five inches,” Santos says in an exclusive interview with The Bald Truth at http://www.artharris.com. Later that day, Santos and his girlfriend, Stephanie Mullis, say they spied Misty Croslin in the car pool line at the bus stop, driving a van that picked up Haleigh, and her younger cousin, Austin, now 5, an inseparable playmate who used to run from Haleigh as she chased him in the yard, trying to plant a kiss.
“He misses her terribly,” says his mother, Lindsay Croslin, who often joined Misty at the bus stop.
While these car pool parents can’t plug the crucial gaps in conflicting accounts of what Misty says happened later Monday night Feb. 9, between 8 p.m. (when she says she put Haleigh to bed) and 3:27 am the next morning (when she called 911 to report the child missing), sources close to the case say they help shed crucial light on a young couple in conflict and factors that could have contributed to making Haleigh vulnerable to a kidnapper, or killer.
When she got off the bus, Haleigh was happy, according to Mullis, who saw the child running towards a van Misty was driving. By some accounts, Misty seemed “drawn,” agitated.
With her window rolled down, and Misty just feet away, Mullis says she overheard Misty on the cell phone griping about “the bad shit” she’d gotten from someone she vowed to never deal with again. Mullis says she also heard Misty’s stern, expletive-laced admonition to a little boy in the car to behave, then says she saw her “smack” the child before Haleigh got in the car. “I was shocked,” she says.
We’ll be playing our interviews with several bus stop parents whose accounts on The Bald Truth, sources say, are consistent with the stories they gave in interviews with law enforcement, as part of a group of some 140 witnesses the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department, FDLE and the FBI have interviewed while trying to unravel the frustrating case of the missing six year old that has baffled them for over six months.
At the heart of the case, experts have focused on Ronald’s relationship with Misty, hoping it will yield insight, wondering why he’d marry — and stay married to — the young woman police say has not leveled with them. “You know the saying, you keep your friends close and your enemies closer,” Ronald told me months ago in Satsuma.
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Wow- Sillygirl , I can;t wait to see that , he did take the LD test when she was in Mass and I don’t think Linsey knew he was taking it, you gotta think Chelsea was trying to do some damage control for Tommy
Details in Cummings case revealed
Updated: Saturday, 12 Sep 2009, 2:06 AM EDT
Published : Saturday, 12 Sep 2009, 2:06 AM EDT
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news…_case_revealed
* MATT SAFFER | FOX 30 Action News Jacksonville
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (WAWS TV) – Misty Cummings is thought to be the last person to see Haleigh Cummings alive. Her stepsister was in town on the night Haleigh disappeared and she has become one of the most recent people questioned in Haleigh’s disappearance.
“I don’t know anything that happened to Haleigh, and I wish to God I did. I wish that I knew where Haleigh was, and I wish I could find her and bring our baby girl home. Cause, she’s 6 years old and she does not to be out in the world without us,” said Chelsea Croslin.
Chelsea spoke with Jacksonville FOX affiliate, WAWS TV , over the phone from her Massachusetts home. This is the first time she has spoken to any news outlet after Putnam County investigators flew more than a thousand miles to interview her and her husband this past weekend.
“We’ve now been thrown into the spotlight of this, were known as the Cape Cod couple. I mean, just to give us a name, this is nothing I ever in my life expected to have to go through. Its obviously not Haleigh’s fault I’m going through this, but I just don’t understand why I got thrown into this so hard,” said Croslin.
Chelsea says the chief Putnam County investigator in the Haleigh Cummings disappearance was accompanied by another Putnam County Sheriff’s Officer, as well as two Massachusetts State Troopers this past weekend. They showed up to her home around 9am and asked her to come with them for questioning.
“I was down there probably from about 9 o’clock to noon and you know. They just wanted to go over the phone lines. They wanted to go over time lines, and try to fill in gaps of what happened that night and who Misty talked to. And try and guess get down to the end of this,” said Croslin.
Chelsea says ever since this investigation began, her family has been struggling to stick together.
“If I was sitting on the outside and looking in on this family, Id see the 17 year old girlfriend and just the way everything’s happened, maybe I would go more towards the Croslin family. But, you know, I know everybody in our family and every single one of us loves children. We all love each others children and none of us would hurt them and I think they’ve geared the investigation toward the Croslin’s from day one,” said Chelsea.
“We tried starting our lives over here. We moved up here so my girls could get a good education. We could get a good home and be around our family, and when all of this got over with in Florida we could be together and just continue on with our lives and let our kids grow up and have normal lives. And now, they’re making us out to be something were not,” Chelsea said.
Chelsea Croslin also spoke about why she believes Misty has nothing to do with Haleigh’s disappearance.
“Until somethings proven, were not going to believe it. Because we believe Misty. We know how good and great she is with our kids and she has 6 of her own nieces and nephews. She is one of the best people with children out there,” said Chelsea.
“She’s like my little sister. I’m not trying to say shes not a smart person, but you know, Misty dropped out of school in the 6th grade. She doesn’t have that much book smarts to be able to fool the FBI and FDLE and every other person that came there and interrogated her for hours and hours and hours and Lie detected her over and over and over… I don’t think Misty, she could do it. She’s got a good heart, a good kid, and she loves children. I would trust misty with my kids, before a lot of other people in this world,” Croslin said.
“You can see it in her eyes, all she is, is a hurt little girl. Shes gone through a lot in her life and shes going through a lot now and its tearing her apart, its really what its doing, ” said Chelsea.
Chelsea Croslin and her husband Tim say they moved from Florida to get away from the investigation and give detectives the space they needed to get the job done. They both say they will continue to cooperate with investigators and answer any questions they may have.
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sorry sillygirl,cant find the 14 hr phrase but i’m certain of it,lol
right Chakra,exactly!
For some reason Chelsea is making my hinky meter go up. Why is she spilling all this private info to AH and LP? Probably because she knows they will go on NG and tell what she said hoping that others will believe her stories about Joe. To me, she is just trying to hard to point the guilt away from anyone else.
I believe you CathyJo. What did it pertain to? Also, Chelsea getting a tatoo of a child she has only known for 5 months, and not all that well is kinda weird. I mean, I knew Somer Thompson and loved that little girl, but I don’t have a tatoo of her name on my body.
yep silly imo too,she is not even related to Haleigh but has a tattoo of her on her entire top half of her foot with an angel?
That to me speaks VOLUMES!
i was theere every day for Caylee,till Haleigh went missing and still no tattoo??
and if you notice,chelsea is quiet till evidence points in heer direction then she goes on tv to say her part while claiming they moved to Mass to help the investigation!
thats another thing why the lies about the bus stop.misty picked her up according to santos.but rc swears he picked her up.the bus driver should have it on tape.dont ya think.
CathyJo- there is an article in the Examiner its title (about the 14 hours) “Misty Croslin holding back in Haleigh Cummings disapperance”
I don’t know how to post it here but they talk about how LE thinks Chelsea and Timmy helped Misty hide the body
did yall hear on the last tape with tommy and his dad he said i cant wait till the test come back from evidence so they can clear my name.
then i’ll ccp it here cause links won’t post usually!
Sotrue- yes, that whole day they lied about why lie, before Haleigh goes missing?????
ty tooChakra,I have searched all day for articles i know i read just yesterday!
It could be that Chelsea just suspects that Tim could have been involved and really doesn’t know. Which is why she has been in talk mode every time someone brings up cousin Joe. She knew that he was at her house that night, and that she was his ONLY alibi. How convenient for her. You never hear anything from her, unless Joe’s name was mentioned as well.
ok CathyJo- I will brb
jaba said,
in May 24th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
HP,
Just funning with you on my report.
No, art didn’t say where that came from specifically. Typical, huh?
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I know u were:)
Thanks jaba, just wondered. Trying to sort out what is for real out of this mess.
I think ron could have had prior knowledge or post knowledge. Since I can disprove that gma sykes saw the kids at 730 and ron was gone, its hard to believe he got away from work and did something to the child. The buying of beer, cigs and peanuts fits with a guy getting off werk and getting his vices before heading home so he won’t have to go back out.
misty saying he was right there standing by the back door at 3 something a.m. Is weird.
Maybe he saw the light on and was waiting on misty to come out or that others were there. Since he didn’t get ahold of misty he may have thought it weird she was still up that late. Not sure on that piece of info.
I do think misty was used by ron for a babysitter. But I don’t think he used or set her up to take one of his kids. Why would he want to be away from the kid? CS wasn’t going to get them back. JR was still there. Unless ron accidentaly killed her I just don’t think he wouls have stashed her somewhere. I mean, for what reason?
Haleigh Cummings disappeared on February 10, 2009, issuing a statewide Amber Alert. Now, Lisa Croslin, Misty’s own mother thinks that both Misty and Ron are holding something back. Haleigh Cummings’ disappearance has led Florida law enforcement to Massachusetts to question Misty Croslin-Cummings brother and sister in law. The two were questioned for fourteen hours and the interview came at a time of an alleged possible sighting of Haleigh in an Abington, Massachusetts Wal-Mart.
Now, it appears that Misty Croslin and her family are becoming more estranged. Lindsy Croslin , Misty Croslin’s sister-in-law, doubts that Misty was home at the time Haleigh went missing. Reports also state that Lindsy Croslin told investigators that during that 14 hour questioning of Timothy and Chelsea Croslin, detectives wanted to know if the couple had helped Misty hide Haleigh. Police still haven’t released any information regarding the possible sighting of Haleigh; they are reportedly reviewing surveillance video footage.
The estrangement of Misty Croslin and her family has become more pronounced as a Florida judge granted Misty Croslin-Cummings a restraining order against her brother. Misty Croslin’s father doesn’t believe that she was home at the time of Haleigh’s disappearance either. Additionally, phone records show multiple calls between Misty and her brother (Timothy Croslin)during the night Haleigh Cummings went missing. On top of all this estrangement, comes the announcement that Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin had a fight the night that Haleigh vanished. One of the most startling revelations to surface in recent days, however, is the fact that Ronald Cummings tried to reach Misty Croslin-Cummings by phone during the night of Haleigh Cummings’ disappearance and couldn’t reach her.
In the interview below, Misty Croslin’s mother states that she believes her daughter, Misty Croslin , is holding information back and not telling everything regarding Haleigh’s disappearance. When asked by an interviewer whether she believed Misty was truthful she stated, “Deep down in my heart, yes, I think my daughter’s holding something back.”
The interviewer then asked if she felt Ronald Cummings was being truthful. Lisa Croslin answered, “I think them both are holding something back. That is just in my heart.” She continued to speak, giving Misty a message, “I want to tell her I love her. And if you know anything at all, please tell me. I`ll be right there by your side and we`ll get through it. And just please tell me whatever you`re holding back.”
A statewide Amber Alert has been issued for Haleigh Cummings. An additional $35,000 in reward money has been posted.
If you have any information and wish to remain anonymous, please call Crime Stoppers at 1-888-277-TIPS (8477) or you can Text your tip by Texting “TIP231 plus your message” to CRIMES (274637). We don’t want your name; just your information and you could be eligible for a reward up to $1000.00
I can’t …disprove gma sykes saw the kids…
In previous post.
Ok Cathy I emailed it , and keep my email address also
chakra7 said,
in May 24th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Art always has “special phantom” sources lol
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Oh yes, special bombshell type of sources probably.
Thank you Chakra7 in advance for getting that link to CathyJo.
CathyJo – post the link if you can. I am logging out for the night (I have a very early morning) tomorrow. I will read back though and get the link and read it. It’s been fun! Hope the juicy tapes come out tomorrow! Night all.
i think GS Lied,she waited 9 days till it was needed to verify something else?
ty Chakra!!!!
so Lindsy went to MA and before this misty did?
i dunno if misty did to mass,Lindsey did yes but misty went to tn after the jo story came out?
i stay confused now,lol
yvw sillygirl,its the least we could do,afterall you got the tapes and taunt us and then my big ole red juicy lillipop wasn’t good nuff fer you was it? lol
looks like family is turning on one another!
thats ok though Sillygirl,I ate that lollipop! neener neener neener!!
I agree Jaba, I don’t think he wanted Haleigh gone , I do think he hit her and Misty for that matter, maybe this time he hit her to hard , but myself I think he knows if he didn’t I don’t think he could stay with Misty let alone marry her, and Donna Brock was originally brought in to get inside info on Misty, but instead of waiting to see if she could find out anything ,Ronald warns her , all very funky to me and yes points in the direction of Guilt
brb eat sommin,wash that lolipop down wiff
tx chakra
So 14 hrs with both. I doubt they questioned them together the whole time.
So 7 hrs with a break for dinner for each. 6 plus hours when you have traveled to maine doesn’t seem overly escessive to question that long. You don’t want to have to come back.
welcome, CathyJo, SillyGirl
so lindsy told police she does not think misty was home that night.. hmm that makes her, ron, tommy and her own mom said she was holdin sumthin back.
oh welcome homespain – didn’t see ya
ron telling misty about donna could have been to protect his dealing. That didn’t work out so well, now did it. Donna Brock, what was she thinking? Don’t hear much about her anymore.
cathyjo
yes misty went there too to ma i thought after her and ron split up.
True Jaba – but they both say that they were home sleeping that night , it dosen’t take even 6 hours to say that…..
LE: so where were you that night
T &C: we were at home sleeping
LE: so you were at home, sleeping
T&C: yes
see lol
so wonder why tommys attorney helped with him tellin what he knows about haleigh and after said he will not represent him in Haleigh case.
Jaba- ya thats a laugh, protecting his dealing from Donna, little did he know she would have been his best customer lol
Jaba- andddd LE stated that they think Tim and Chelsea helped dispose of the body
Kristie- that is surprising about Tommys lawyer, I think after he failed the LDT he knew he was sunk on the Haleigh case and couldn’t help him
I would believe Misty over brother Tommy any day. He has a lot more to lose, a wife, children and some family secret like messing around w/his own sister. Haleigh was already dying when Joe and Tommy showed up at the house, one of the two (or both) molested her and they got rid of the body. I believe Misty when she says that she hid under the sheets, she heard the cries than nothing and by not seeing what happened, she’s telling the truth.
chakra7
i bet he was thinkin like it would be a big longgggg mess of a case and said no way-
Marie
that theory is possible but no dna? dunno
Marie I so hope none of this is true. This makes me sick for Haleigh’s sake. I rather her take a drug overdose due to negelect.
yes Kristie I agree especially when he failed the lie detector test
chakra7 said,in May 24th, 2010 at 9:55 pm yes Kristie I agree especially when he failed the lie detector test
yea good point
Sillygirl said,
in May 24th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Poor cousin Joe may be crazy, may be a lune, but I do not believe he had anything to do with this.
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Been saying that for awhile given the previous contradictions on Tom me and Misty’s.
They don’t like being in jail and yet they’re willing to blame Joe and put him away for life. What if Jo commited suicide from all the stress.
chakra7
I do think it is so odd why they will release all these tapes but none of Ron. u think he was working with cops? its so hard to tell what his involvment is if any.
I bet they had tons more questions about everybody in their family and others.
I think Misty went to Tennnessee and stayed with Flora, I don’t think she ever made it to Mass, but Misty and Hank talk about that she should have gone ,IIRC
I wonder what evidence they have from the river. apparently they have somethin- other than blocks and rope.
Jaba – I’m sure , but I was teasin ya
Kristie- Last I heard Simon called and asked about the tapes with ron and they just said, oh you want them they are boring, I think it was during the time that they were putting the deal together for him to testify, and they didn’t want any press on Ronald out in the media
chakra7 said,in May 24th, 2010 at 10:01 pm I think Misty went to Tennnessee and stayed with Flora, I don’t think she ever made it to Mass, but Misty and Hank talk about that she should have gone ,IIRC
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I remember that she went to TN- maybe that was all planned too.
thanks for clearing that up.
boring ron tapes , hmm guess he is keepin his mouth shut-
Kristie- meant to say they said to simon, oh you DON’T want them ,
can anyone figure out why pcso didnt lockup the last 2 people seen with haleigh after not having found her for about a mth on child neglect or something and maybe this would all be over with..i just cant beleive they let this go so long.i just dont get it
Perhaps, we should play the tapes/dvds backwards to find out what really happened to Haleigh cuz none of these wackos make any d*mn sense. imo
Homespain – great point , they don’t care at all if joe is put in jail, and from what I saw last month that boy wasn’t far from suicide
Did you notice how uncomfortable Misty looked when Hank mentioned white boy Greg?
Sotrue- thats right you would think they could at least charge them with that , I think that was Casey’s original charge
chakra7
ahh now u hav me too curious haha
maybe thats tied to the reason nancy G aint all over it.
Kristie- Good thought, you would defidently think she would be covering it tonight ,jvm was
chakra7 said,
in May 24th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Kristie- meant to say they said to simon, oh you DON’T want them
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You know what’s interesting, hardly anyone doesn’t find that suspect. Very telling.
and we know Ron has NG on speeddial lol
it is isn’t it Homespain
chakra7 said,
in May 24th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Homespain – great point , they don’t care at all if joe is put in jail, and from what I saw last month that boy wasn’t far from suicide
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I do, and don’t feel sorry for Croslins. In my view if you are willing to sacrifice Jo or any innocent person- that is very telling to me. That to me is as low as killing Haleigh. No one is worth more or less than another.
And saying that, they could be innocent of killing Haleigh too. But it is a despicable thing to do to another. I have noticed Misty backing off on that and hope it is because of her conscious, and that it is the truth.
I think the cops, given what they leak and don’t, what they say in terms of statements, they indicate Misty and Tom me and possibly more people may be involved.
I hope that if they are innocent of anything to do with Haleigh that they didn’t catch themselves in this web because of their own lies and criminal behavior. I do not unlike some people, even thinking what i do of the players want them to pay for what they don’t do.
I think this drug thing is real serious enough. I get that it is the law, and I’m cognizant of what drugs do to people etc, but the laws are insane when they don’t discriminate between people like them and bigger fish out there.
I would absolutely hate to be LE and having to solve this case.
CathyJo63 said,in May 24th, 2010 at 8:49 pm and if you notice,chelsea is quiet till evidence points in heer direction then she goes on tv to say her part while claiming they moved to Mass to help the investigation!
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I feel ya!!! I just want to go on JVM, like bust thru the dang doors of CNN or HLN and scream “Chelsea’s a liar!!”
Girl, I am in Virginia right now, and let me tell you, I have many times wanted to take a “weekend excursion” to good ole Abington Massachussetts….I am dead serious. Wonder what I would find sitting out there with my “PINPOINT CAMERA!!”
Homespain- Great post, beautifully written
I find it deplorable that tommy was willing to falsely accuse Joe, and he pretty much admits it in the last set of tapes (released Friday -when Lisa says , you should have just kept your da**m mouth shut,
what if LE believed it , what if he was arrested, and had to spend the rest of his life in jail, would Tommy have come forward and said uhh I lied , I doubt it
but thats is one of a long list of bad character defects in Tommy , in my opinion he has proven himself to be a sorry piece of chit
I agree , I think Misty had a wake up call (hopefully conscience) and backed off the story of Joe
hopefully LE has a clearer view of this case with more evidence than we have , because after every tape it seems somethings get validated and other things become more confusing
RonFan – I’m all for it , go sluth and concur lol , oh and please report your findings lol
chakra7 said,in May 24th, 2010 at 10:13 pm Homespain – great point , they don’t care at all if joe is put in jail, and from what I saw last month that boy wasn’t far from suicide
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttt?????????
Look at that Boy’s myspace pages…
Why would EVERYONE, and I say EVERYONE from day 1 point a finger to HIM??? IMO, it’s not like anyone even had time enough to sit around in that family after 1-2 days and say, let’s blame Joe cuz HE JUST HAPPENED TO BE THERE???
That oogie eerie message “If u don’t remember it, It didn’t happen….” That, imo speaks VOLUMES almost like a subtle cry for help, if that’s even possible.
LE has been transparent imo about Joe and his innocence, cuz they have done everything they could to keep the attention AWAY FROM JOE. Joe was cleared, again, again, and again…C’mon, how come no one else has been treated that way, nor been in some kind of public eye????
Sillygirl said,in May 24th, 2010 at 8:05 pm Too many reasons to list why I think Ronnie is involved. But I would bet my life on it!(Sorry Ronfan JMHO. Also it was interesting to hear how Tim sneaks out of the house at night.
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Tell me what to listen to, I’m way behind…not being lazy just lots to do packing, moving, kids…
WHERE ARE ANY RON TAPES OR CALLS????Whooo, I think I am brainwashed..
OJ’s glove said,in May 24th, 2010 at 6:18 pm levi calls misty a spoiled brat??
what an idiot!
she was raised in the street..hows that spoiled? the moron!
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Yep, there is something wrong with that guy.
I find the way Tommy laughs at how his dog killed another dog very disturbing. He just moved back to the top of my suspect list.
Kristie 7:47 pm
Why would Tommy kill Haleigh?? What reason?? He appears to be one heck of a weak person. I don’t see him doing this on his own.
Those 3 losers know what happened. Tommy wants out of jail and to be with his family. He has told LE what he knows.
LE is holding all information close to the vest. We will find out in time (not soon enough) why and how it happened.
Misty tells Chelsea in this conversation its gonna hurt two people- Clearly talkin about Tommy and Timmy. chelsea said she doesnt care about ronald and misty said no no no- meaning im not talking about him. so she musta been talking about timmy and tommy
Sister-in-law: So what, you have things you need to talk to him about?
Misty Croslin: Well yeah, I mean, it’s you know, hard to talk.
Sister-in-law: I know.
Misty Croslin: Yeah. But it’s gonna hurt two people. It’s gonna hurt two people.
Sister-in-law: That we care about?
Misty Croslin: Kinda. One, yeah. And the other, kinda.
Sister-in-law: That I care about?
Misty Croslin: Yeah.
Sister-in-law: Cause I know I don’t give a f**k about Ronald, excuse my language.
Misty Croslin: No, No. No it’s somebody. Yeah, no.
Sister-in-law: It’s not him?
Misty Croslin: No, you just think Chelsea, use your head. And you’ll know.
BOLDONE3 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 8:13 am Kristie 7:47 pm
Why would Tommy kill Haleigh?? What reason?? He appears to be one heck of a weak person. I don’t see him doing this on his own.
Those 3 losers know what happened. Tommy wants out of jail and to be with his family. He has told LE what he knows.
LE is holding all information close to the vest. We will find out in time (not soon enough) why and how it happened.
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i said tommy dumped the body- no one knows who killed her. if timmy helped tommy i dont think she was molested but 2 brothers covering for their little sister who drugged her.
what if – donna brock – did the flippin off tim- drug sting ect.. all to set up misty to talk?
she was smiling in all the arrest pics so was ron.
ron is makin it look like he did all this to find out what happened to haleigh, either he is or he isnt-
since his mom has ties with the cops maybe they allowed him in on all this?
thought it was wierd he got a tattoo of his mommas name on his chest.
I truly believe Misty Knows Timmy and Tommy dumped the body
Chelea and Misty talk while Misty behind bars..
Misty:its gonna hurt two peopl
Chesea: someone I care about
Misty: Yeah
(Chelsea Mentions Ron and Misty said no no no) meaning Im not saying its him
Linsdy is leaving tommy because the cops tell her he helped dispose of the body
Timmy said to tommy- I am still a suspect
he moved to another state after this happened and his wife gets a tattoo of haleigh out of guilt because she knows he did it.
lindsy said she does not think misty was home- left the kids alone
ron said this too
tommy said she wasnt home
so i dont think she was cuz she was partyin- drugged Haleigh before she left- came back she was dead
called brothers for help
then she feels bad so she writes a letter to chelsea saying joe did it.
good idea huh NO
now she says he didnt do it
now tommy said he didnt after he told his attorney he was scared of joe and joe did this.
So Timmy and Tommy dumped the body
they need to pressure timmy and chelsea more- cops know that why they talked to her for 14 hrs.
I cannot play the newest tapes (video from Saturday onward) because my computer says it does not support this format. Where can I get transcripts to read, or maybe another site to try to download the videos from? Thanks for any help.l
Some of these tapes are obviously before Tommy came up with the latest. I don’t have the patience to watch these tapes in their entirety. This story Tommy is telling about a knife at his throat makes no sense to me. I don’t think anyone would lie to cover for some one they hate. I think a person would lie to cover someone they love. I wonder if it is possible another source became involved after Haleigh was killed. The obstacle noe being in disclosing all the info then that person would also be in trouble. Some one important to these people. Perhaps the person/persons have a spouse covering for them or the spouse does not know and so there is a world of lies going on. Some thing is an obstacle here and may not be as it appears. Lyndsy has made the right choice if in fact she has left Tommy. She is far better off with out him. She can do fine on her own. Plus when this is all said and done Tommy might not be allowed around children. JMHO
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
The videos and audios are no longer available, is there a way i can get them elsewhere?
I wish there were more Croslin tapes
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