Then you have to wonder why Tommy’s drug deal video has never been shown and who was the guy in the black truck that Tommy bought the drugs from according to the arrest report.

Simon here is your explanation about the bonds. 2 things were different with the drug cases and I will explain.

1st – Imms’ arrest were probable cause arrest and the local bond schedule was used to apply to the charges. The Sheriff has no control over the bond schedule, which is set by the Circuit Court Judge. Each level of crime has a specific bond amount.

2nd – Imms was charged with selling drugs, but the charge was not a trafficking charge, which held a minimum mandatory sentence. Any drug dealer arrest on trafficking offences or offences that could have life in prison with out parole, would have NO bond by the schedule, until they say a judge at their 1st appearance. While he had several charges, none of them rose to that level. Again, the Sheriff has no control over the level of the crimes they were charged with; it is set by Florida Statute. Different jurisdictions have different bond amounts, again it is set by the judge, based on several different criteria.

Now the Croslin/Cummings drug arrests. They were all arrested on warrants issued by a judge. While they were arrested during a take down situation, they were all served with the warrants, which were issued by a judge from the St. John’s County court. There cases involved trafficking cases, and they were given there bond amounts based on the possibility of time they could serve based on their alleged crimes. Further, they were not given the NO bond status, because a judge already determined that there was probable cause to affect an arrest.

So basically apples to oranges. Each of the Croslin/Cummings clan could have gone to court for a bond reduction if they felt that the bonds were set to high by a JUDGE, NOT THE POLICE.

So not really a double standard here. Maybe the Croslin/Cummings clan had the door slammed on them alittle bit, but if you look at bond amounts, you will see that there are high bonds issued by judges (esp. st johns county) on other cases. NOTHING TO DO WITH SHERIFF HARDY. I personally think that Sheriff Hardy handled this situation as a true professional, with fore thought and a ethical demeanor.

Now I am no expert in the matter, but I bet you if you verify what I just said with your resident expert – COBRA, he can tell you exactly what I said is the fact. He knows about bond schedules and bond amounts.

ComeOn: ThankYou, ThankYou, ThankYou…..I tried to explain all this earlier today. The legality or amounts of bonding issues are not set by the arresting powers (ie sheriff, police, etc).

Amazing….thank you for sharing. A meth addict/dealer, in addiction to the other charges, and he has a 7K bond???????? Perhaps that gives me some insight into why the Croslins/Cummings think the PO-lice are out to get them….. And I am not supporting either of these families….nor the Hardy’s….. Serious charges and a slap on the wrist and minimal bond, sound familiar with the C/C previous criminal charges?? No wonder that county is so insanely screwed up.

Simply put……. how very wrong. But similar to what the C/C gang punishment incurred, prior to LE trying to find the truth for baby HaLeigh.

I always support LE, however this case with the Sheriff’s son…IMHO blatantly wrong, and I don’t buy into it is totally the judge’s decision……… Again IMHO……..

Misty was all over the united states after the incident and who knows who was paying for it, or do we? She’s a flight risk.

Padilla did offer to bond misty out if she told the truth. She could have been free for awhile until she went back for the drug charge sentencing which is to come either way.
Her attorney knew she couldn’t tell LP anything because it would implicate her and/or tc, ron, or whoever else.

Misty also called gma hollers and told her who did it, so why not tell police, and then back it up with a ldt and help the case out. If she only helped cover up something, maybe they will sentence her to the same amount of time as the drug charges and run them concurrently.

jaba said,in May 6th, 2010 at 8:51 pm Yep, she’s innocent of selling drugs to cops, multiple times. I didn’t hear her say anything about being forced to do it. So, guilty, not innocent.

As to the haleigh issue, she hasn’t been truthful and we have seen her changed her story on video tape. Oh, and she’s failed polys.

She knows what happened that night

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didn’t you read simon’s article above?
here let me quote a sentence.
“family were not actually caught in the act of selling drugs, they were caught in the procurement phase. Oh and the drugs were being provided by the PCSO.”
misty is INNOCENT!! til proven guilty, heard that saying before?

Truth and fact really don’t matter to people I guess. It is alway a conspiracy.

OJ how is the dark room tonight. I guess this fuels the creative writers in you. Minnesota must be buzzing tonight. I bet you end up getting writer’s cramps….

Ted,my brother is from Minnesota too OJ.
excuse me OJ,but LoL at ComeOn!it is funny tho we all pick at poor ole oj!

I’ll give OJ one thing,he sure is loyal!lol

Call it procurement, call it middle-man, call it innocent, no wait, their are no charges named that.

They were caught in the act.

So was Hope innocent too? She plead no contest. Still a finding of guilt. Wasn’t she in the same capers as misty and company? Yep.

By the way, 1 time misty and ron bought drugs from the police. That was the last case. All other cases they SOLD AND DELIVERED drugs to the undercover officer.

The Detectives set up both crimes, they decided how many buys they wanted to make and how severe the charges they wanted to get in both cases.

They decided to go easy on the Sheriff’s son unlike the croslin’s and cummings.

Sure they don’t set the bond but they set the stage for just what kind of charges and buys they wanted to do which decides what the bond is going to be.

and….when Misty was with Donna they didn’t procure nothing, they sold actual pills,many of them ,not provided by law enforcement

Hmmmm….”sold and delivered drugs to police” now that doesn’t sound like procurement, or innocent. Maybe its just me.

Just because one says something over and over and over, doesn’t make it true. The facts speak for themselves.

CathyJo at 9:14 LMAO LOL
He loves it tho 🙂

Tommy said two months ago in that jailhouse tape that the Sheriff’s son was a bigger pill head then he was. Maybe that is what set the investigation up. LOL

Come on,

What part of them selling to an undercover agent didn’t you understand?

What in your definition if this would not be trafficing in drugs?

Oh, perhaps the undercovers from the Sheriff’s office worded it a little differently so it might appear to be something lesser than what it actually was? Is that what your saying? This is all a technically?

Not only trafficing drugs, but carrying chemical used to make Meth.

Please – there is absolutely no comparison between prescription pills and operating a Meth Lab, selling meth, carrying chemicals used to make meth, possession of drug paraphernalia and, then, there is the child placed right in the middle of these chemicals!

They should have bail in accordance with guidelines in accordance with the laws of the State of Florida, period. And, if it turns out they have criminal records, bail should have been in higher amounts. Wouldn’t be surprised to hear some are on probation – didn’t quite finish all that community work they were assigned the last time! I don’t know, but as I said, it wouldn’t surprise me one little bit.

My opinions only

Ann

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,lol sorry,i thought she meant u were from Minnesata!

Come ON said, in May 6th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Truth and fact really don’t matter to people I guess. It is alway a conspiracy.

OJ how is the dark room tonight. I guess this fuels the creative writers in you. Minnesota must be buzzing tonight. I bet you end up getting writer’s cramps….

Padilla offered to bail misty out for the truth in finding haleigh. I bet hed still do it. Pretty much everyone, but one, thinks she knows what happened. She tells padilla, they charge the right people and she gets out and tries to plead down to something less than most of her adult life. She will do 20, I bet. That’s forever and a few days to a 17 years old.

LE was probably giaining intelligence on other dealers in the network as they invetigated misty. It took 8 times to get what they could in different circumstances. LE lured them in brilliantly, like they should have on any tip received about illegal activity. Snared a whole mess of ’em in that little deal and they will all pay for it.

I bet the sherrifs son pays too. It will be highlighted so heavily.

it will be now Jaba! for sure!

OhYeah….(points to tip of nose)

LMAO…takin a few peeps out with them…LOL!

I think the entity to question about this would be

THE PROSECUTOR’S OFFICE….

Come On

There were 4 people arrested for selling.

That is not your normal buy from a guy on the street corner. This was over a time period.

You are wrong that most of Imm’s charges were Misdemeanors, he got 5 charges and 3 are felonies.

893.149-1a DRUGS-POSSESS LISTED CHEMICAL WIT MANUFACTURE CNTRL SUBS F S $2,504.00
827.03-1c CRUELTY TOWARD CHILD URGE OTHER TO ACT RESULT PHYS MENTAL INJURY F T $1,004.00
893.13-1a1 DRUGS-SELL SELL METHAMPHETAMINE F S $2,504.00

brb daughter phone

There is no rational, reasonable evidence to support misty’s innocence in the drug matter, there just the mantra of ‘she is innocent’. She will have to be proved guilty in a court of law with the media watchdogging the trial. It will be fair, she will be conivted and she will be sentenced. However, no lawyer would put her up for a trial that had half a brain.

On Haleigh, she knows and has changed her story, and lied more than a few times. Its only a matter of time. What will the mantra be then? Police corruption.

Its all LE’s fault. None of the blame goes to the incarcerated and videotaped clan, no, couldn’t be them. There is nothing in their background that would suggest they are stand up citizens, nothing.

Guilty, imho.

How come you guys always skip right over the point and go right into judging Misty. I don’t think she’s innocent necessarily, but her bond should not be any higher than Imm’s. I knew he would get special treatment, and if Hank is paying attention he will call Misty’s attorney right now, and get this straightened out. Don’t give me this crap about the Sheriff having nothing to do with the bond. TN was just working in dispatch and got RC off of all kinds of things.

It was a big thank you drenched in sarcasm, stilllucy! lol

its what you call the good ole boy system.if you know someone you are good to go.i do agree that the croslins deserve to be where they are but i dont think its fair for Mr. sheriff son to get a little slap on the wrist.this is your prime example of politics.

The bond is not out of line in mistys case.

The bond seems very low in the Imm case.

Doesn’t mean that mistys is out of whack beyond legal.

Could mean that Imm is getting of light. has nothing to do with misty.

Does have to do about fairness. If it were appled to apples with charges, then yes, why the big gap in bond amounts but its not.

Maybe the 26 year old owns property. Makes it more likley he’d stay than someone without property.

Misty has an attorney, they all do, why haven’t they gone for another bond hearing? Maybe they will now.

Well the Sheriff’s son is in the same slammer as Ron, maybe they will become “bunkies” as Hope would say.

Pinkyandduhbrain said,in May 6th, 2010 at 9:45 pm As far as Misty goes – she is 100% guilty of the drug charges. I watched the video. Case closed in the court of Pinky.
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if you were on the jury hopefully you would look at ALL the evidence and make an INFORMED decision instead of relying on the spoonfed pablum released by LE.

“If the glove doesn’t fit, you must aquit” Johnny 1994

“When they got you on tape, you won’t escape” – Jaba 2010

—just ask simpson.

Then we’ll ask Misty.

The only person more upset than Lady Justice tonight is Hope Sykes for having plead ‘Not Guilty’.

She will not be getting a ‘get out of jail’ free card.

imo

A

Yes, bring on the evidence in a trial by jury, that will get her more time for sure. They’ll plea in the first day of trial after opening statements. No, they won’t, misty will plea like hope, like tommy and like ron. Bye bye to all!!! Hope you can live with yourselves. Karmam is a beyotch!

Hope pled No Contest.

Cops is a reality show. And the reality of cops selling dope to addicts is that it IS entrapment, IMO. 🙂

Don’t you think Ronald Cummings and the Croslins are very familiar with the Sheriff’s son – Tommy already mentioned him on tape (not released???)

They are all in the same trade, the same industry, and probably have the same morals, values, and addictions – although Ronald does like those under age girls.

They are about the same age – 26 or so. They probably all went to school together.

My opinions only,

Ann

Hey folks, we are getting off subject here.

There is video of Tommy in the back of a vehicle with Ron during 1 of the drug transactions with the UnderCover. Someone had brought it up earlier that there was no tape of Tommy but, there is.
What’s up with Lindsey tonight? Anybody noticed anything yet tonight?
The sun has set, it’s time for creepy stuff to start.

Never saw the Tommy tape!

I never saw the Tommy tape either and I think he was with Misty on that deal not Ron according to the arrest warrant.

Lili, I totally agree with you!!!

Also, I was reviewing the videos from way back and came across the video where it was a 911 recording of Amber’s mom or grandma saying Ron and misty and a skinny black man were at the door, beating on it, after they peeled through the yard, demanding his son. She wouldn’t answer and they sent cops out. What ever happened of this and how can they keep bullying the town with no recourse and ron never is forced to face consequences for his charges, they just let him go – no wonder Misty and the girls fear him so.

He can get away with murder….

I really hope he doesn’t – if he tries. (that didn’t click for me until I typed it out, I bet they all think if he did do it, that they know there is NO ONE SAFE TO TELL!)

Crystal Croslin was charged with battery toward Amber’s mom – was that during the same time frame?

imo

A

Not sure I understand the difference between trafficking drugs and selling drugs. Can anyone explain? Seems like a matter of semantics.

However, there is no entrapment where a person is ready and willing to break the law and the Government agents merely provide what appears to be a favorable opportunity for the person to commit the crime. For example, it is not entrapment for a Government agent to pretend to be someone else and to offer, either directly or through an informer or other decoy, to engage in an unlawful transaction with the person. So, a person would not be a victim of entrapment if the person was ready, willing and able to commit the crime charged in the indictment whenever opportunity was afforded, and that Government officers or their agents did no more than offer an opportunity.

http://lectlaw2.securesites.net/def/e024.htm

They do it for a living. Cummings/Croslin = toast.

Ann who is Crystal Croslin? ty

OJ Glove,

Thanks, great article.

Did they mention specifically what Joshua Imms was charged with, sale of methamphetamine, possession of listed chemicals used to manufacture meth, maintaining a drug vehicle, drug paraphernalia and child neglect – these are three felonies, two in the first and one in the third, and two misdeamors in the third or second, don’t remember?

Bail/bond is set in accordance with the bond schedule implemented by the State of Florida in accordance with the charge and the degree.

They indicated LE had dismantled the Meth Lab.

However, surprisingly, we don’t see a charge for maintaining a facility for the purposes of manufacturing methamphetamine.

Perhaps these charges will come.

The public will be watching as to how the Sheriff’s Department will handle the Meth Lab since they stated they had dismantled it, proof of its existence.

Why no charges were made is anyone’s guess – but not a difficult guess.

My personal opinions,

Ann

Drugs are not a bad thing, but like with guns, people make them a bad things by not obeying the law and thats sad for the people who really need them for real pain and not to get high.

and who is nay nay? never heard of her but she was mentioned in another blog.

http://www.examiner.com/x-7403-Tampa-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d9-Ronald-Cummings-father-of-Haleigh-Cummings-speaks-about-Misty-Croslin-and-lie-detector-tests-video

Guys,this video I had never seen but remember when Misty told the LD guy that she saw the back door open then ran to the bedroom to call ronald and didn’t notice Haleigh was gone until then…….well in this one she said she noticed the door open and then went to look everywhere for her………see what yall think..just weird how she acts,i forget the time mark but its not that long,just watch when the woman asks misty ??’s

Ann,also OJ’s dr. said he injected OJ’s hand with some kind of fluid so it wouldn’t fit,that came out after he went to jail this time,just sayin!

Basically, what good does it do to lock up addicts? Why not get them help?

As far as the bonds, I think there was an unfairness there. I think it had to do with Misty’s ‘celebrity status’ and the fact that there are people who would bail her out quickly if they could (LP). The sherrif’s son though, probably no one has that kind of money (7,500) to spend to bail him out. He will sit in there too. Then again, maybe the Sherrif’s son said that he would provide info on Ron and the drugs if he could get out? Who knows what deals he made.

Drugs are not bad……….Are you on them?? sheeeeesh,lol sorry butta wheeeeewwwwwwww

Crystal, Timmy’s wife. She was charged with battery – domestic abuse – something like that, saw that yesterday when I was trying to find Timmy’s (which I couldn’t find as my data would only go back to 2008, I think).

Lindsy was also charged – she must have loved that – over that crazy dog barking and disturbing the peace. (Yes, Tommy was also charged with something to do with the dog 🙂

imo

Ann

If all drugs were legal…just saying…but thats a whole ‘nuther topic for sure.

Cathy,

Think her hairdresser just couldn’t keep up!

Ann

Someone will leak something soon from the jail

I mean i am sorry,my hair aint much..well a rats nest but i swear hers looked like corn husks!

Timmy’s wife is, Chelsea.

I’ve thought the same about Ron’s sister. His sister, Crystal, was suppose to be the designated care taker of HaLeigh and Jr while Ron was at work. That was what Ron had told the Court at his custody hearings. Didn’t quite work out that way, did it? Maybe she isn’t it to this lifestyle. She sure has stayed out of it completely, you are right about that.

rofl,saw his ears in the backseat! LMAO!
I bet lindsey hates it cuz he’s in jail cause no tv reception!

medication/nice
drugs/bad

You are comical……CathyJo

Tommy needs a “prescription” for a fishing magazine……salt water. Like he’s going fishing soon. Or needing a prescription……

Gotta Crash Kids
Have Fun
Be Safe

night still lucy!

Yes, I remember that also – the designated caregiver while Ronald was at work.

He really was prepared for that Hearing wasn’t he!

At this point in time, one can see the hand of Theresa in control of all that.

Then, the Perry Mason moment, when the criminal report arrived on Crystal (Sheffield) and given to the Judge. Can’t unring the bell, it was admissible but he saw it!

Ron and Theresa are probably thinking tonight if they weren’t connected to the Croslins, Ron would have been long gone from jail on a low bail himself.

Wonder if the others are staying the night? Could they make bail without seeing the Judge?

imo

Ann

Sorry wasn’t admissible.

A

the link i posted guys,pause it at exactly 2.36…..freaky looking!

OJ – Misty has a sister?

ann said, in May 6th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Yes, I remember that also – the designated caregiver while Ronald was at work.

He really was prepared for that Hearing wasn’t he!

At this point in time, one can see the hand of Theresa in control of all that.

Then, the Perry Mason moment, when the criminal report arrived on Crystal (Sheffield) and given to the Judge. Can’t unring the bell, it was admissible but he saw it!

What? I am lost,lol

rofl@Adams,lol I dunno but it fits!

I am really not aware of anything to do with drug or alchol addiction and i am glad of that and proud but i do know it is not a crutch for someone to use as an excuse.

jaba: have you heard of “and JUSTICE for all”?
its in the pledge of alligence..but its obvious you want to hang the accused without a trial.
‘Innocent til proven guilty’ have you heard of that? probably not.

why in the hello was misty and tn on a dang paddleboat? on tv?

I am proud you arent too Caly,honest! I just saw you say,drugs aren’t bad and my 1st instinct was to say that after i got my jawl off the floor,meant no disrespect…..honest!

I know they’re bad,Been there,done that,bought the t-shirt,mug and the ashtray!

Cathy, I’ve got a question for ya! Why did Misty look so much healthier/happier before she met Ronnie?

who is nay nay ? (god it hurts my head to even say that name)

beautiful*adams (cent) said,in May 7th, 2010 at 12:05 am I think you guys are talking about the “Bitch I got your man and I will have your baby too, incident”.
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was that ever proven?
any screenshot of the actual myspace post?
and not a photoshop.

Lindsy apparently filed for divorce.

To the best of my knowledge no one is sure why, details have not come out.

The tapes to date that we have heard do not indicate anything about divorce.

The last tape was assumed to have been made about March 15th before she went to visit T & C.

Some suspect she may have learned more from them than she already knew regarding Tommy; others think perhaps she would receive more money by being a single mother of three; also, she was going to the gym and getting herself in shape — so, of course, there is speculation as to a ‘new man’ on the horizon — who knows.

Think it was end of last week when she filed.

Sorry, but that is about all I know. We are anxiously waiting, as you are, for tapes that perhaps give a clue as to what her mindset is at this point.

imo

Ann

I started using because i thought they made me happy,and they did for a short time but they just numb you is all later on but you’re addicted bad by that time and you get more and more depressed because of the guilt you feel!

Know it well. And in case you weren’t aware, I’m probably not going to be on that jury, nor am I going to stop her from getting a fair trial.

I’m offering up opinion, like all others. I say guilty, some say innocent. That’s why we have the legal system.

Still waiting on a better answer to misty failing multiple ldt’s, if there are any to be put forward.

And justice for all, haleigh included, right?

I wonder if Timmy is the only one trying to pay for Misty’s and Tommy’s phone calls and their canteen snacks. They will be miserable without those phone calls and snacks.

10-20!

OJ… when this is all said and done, you may be rather surprised at what “activities” your little Minx got up to! Just saying

Justice for HaLeigh is most important, they need to find her, figure out what crime was committed, and release those not responsible imo

don’t drink the kool-aid BA..
shes LE’s fallguy..but they didn’t even get that right.

I sure wish either way we could get some news!

OJ… I don’t drink Kool-aid, it’s on my list of ongoing hates @ my blog.

JMO Tommy may have liked more than pills, most pill heads I know of gain weight, and Tommy lost a pant load. JME/JMO

wow… I photo-shopped that 2nd post… hee hee

They could easily have taken Haleigh for non-payment of drug debt.

Guess this is the first time I am feeling sorry for Ronald. Realize that he put his children at risk by his own behavior, still, it is heartbreaking if this is the case.

Drug dealers are ruthless and heartless it is true.

He kept saying ‘they’, ‘them’, and they took her like a bike, a piece of property. He was in grief mode as if he knew she was gone, which always made me think he had something to do with it.

Too high connections for him to go after them but he did tell them, his way, that he was going to kill them some day.

This is really something – wonder if they were too hasty in dismantling that meth lab and perhaps destroying evidence – or, is that why they did it immediately?

Would this property be close to the St. Johns River?

I actually feel sick – it is all so horrible.

imo

Ann

Ann,

A 12/19/2010 retail theft for Johanna L Smith:

UCN: 542010MM000437XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-02-02 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:

Defendant
SMITH, JOHANNA L
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2010-02-02 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PDP/ 12-19-2010

2010-02-02 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A

2010-02-02 1 RETAIL THEFT/ WALMART

2010-03-18 2 INFORMATION – RETAIL THEFT

2010-03-19 3 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (04-15-2010) CERT MAIL

2010-03-30 4 NOTICE RETURNED EXECUTED

2010-04-15 5 ARR MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, WAIVING RIGHT TO COUNSEL

2010-04-15 5 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY – PRE-TRIAL SET 06/02/2010

2010-04-15 5 FOR DPA @ 1:30PM

2010-04-15 6 WAIVER OF COUNSEL

2010-04-15 7 PRE-TRIAL ORDER (06/02/2010)@1:30 PM DPA

curious,I weighed 87 lbs! i never ate! now i am around 115!

people who abuse pills lose cuz when you eat you lose your buzz!
most people anyway! Who knows if tommy didn’t he might way 300? ya know……seriously!

PCSO battery complaint against an Amanda Tomlinson:

UCN: 542008MM003677XXAXMX
File Date: 2008-09-12 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:

Defendant
TOMLINSON, AMANDA
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2008-09-12 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO/ TIMPE 08-30-08

2008-09-12 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A

2008-09-12 1 BATTERY/ DEBORAH BAINBRIDGE

2008-10-15 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO ALL CTS

CathyJo63 said,in May 7th, 2010 at 12:32 am curious,I weighed 87 lbs! i never ate! now i am around 115!
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perfect!

Ann,it is sad!also i don’t want it to be true for Haleighs sake! but somethings just not right! all these ppl involved but no one knows anything? I dunno!

Jaba, I bet we do too.

yes, comment all you want. That’s how we find things out.

Jason,

Thanks for all the information – don’t like the battery charge, the retail stuff is not so bad, at least nothing physical.

Now for the men – willing to bet your Hood has a long record – and he is the oldest.

You probably know the man across the street from the meth lab is a grandfather of Joshua Imms. He came out when the press were there, he said he was the grandfather of Imms and didn’t know anything. He wouldn’t give his name.

A neighbor next door was shocked at the developments.

Waiting on the criminal records, if any, for the men.

imo

Ann

love you calykoo…..lol

Just thought of this….

Maybe Ron married Misty, in case he went to jail,…he may of been thinking that Jr would stay with Misty and his momma, instead of going back to skanky ho Crystal. Or he did it to make Misty happy in exchange for Misty keeping her mouth shut?

By the way, where is her wedding ring? You know the one she was flashing to the cameras? Is it in lock up, or did she hock it?

The more I look at photos of R & C and HaLeigh as a baby, I think they were trying to get back together. JMO

Misty also mentioned to the cops something about putting a ‘fake rose’ on the dirt out in the woods that night. She didn’t know if it was real or if she dreamed it. (side effects of drugs…loss of connection with reality)

If that was true, why would she incriminate herself? Another reason I don’t think she remembers what happened.

She told LE that Tommy used to set the back doors of MH’s open with a brick and that was his M.O. when committing burglaries. Why would she tell that on Tommy? She also said him and Joe were there that night. Why would she offer that up to LE…this was in the beginning.

Why would she insist on LDT’s and ask to be hypnotized. Guilty people DONT do that!

The part I agree with OJ about is that LE has completely bungled this case from the beginning. The drug bust was a lame attempt at finding out something on Haleigh (and still is) in my opinion.

Cops: “Psstt….pssttt Misty…tell us something and we’ll go easy on you.”

Misty: I don’t know nuttin….

COps: “Pppsstt…Hey Tommy…tell us something about Haleigh and we’ll go easy on you..”

TOmmy: “OK….there’s this river you need to search….”

Sounds like they know nuttin….7 days…

You’re the first one I heard that about Cathy, most I know get fat and lazy.

SOmething that has been bothering me…turning over and over in my mind….

I have NEVER heard a male, young or old, refer to woman cheating on him as a F*ck and a half, ala ROnald Cummings to Cobra….

I’m not saying he couldn’t or shouldn’t forgive her, just that the terminology used is so crass and unemotional on his part. Am I wrong?

I have seem some shows(real crime cases) that the guilty insisted on a lie test maybe it buys them time or sounds good for them to say it at the monment or they think they can beat it. i dont know.

Ann @ 12:48 pm; the mother of the 2 yr old had the battery charge.

It makes me believe he didn’t care for her at all, regardless of his “I love her, I love Misty” claim. If he did/does, I just can’t see him saying it that way. “She cheated” or even derogatory comments about her & co-cheater but never the words he used.

WIth ROn’s apparent temper:
DV claims
Gun threat claims
Chasing down people following him
THreats to Misty
Threats on 911 call
etc….

Can you really see him saying those particular words about an incident involving someone he loves/loved? Especially to Cobra, someone he had been trying so hard to prove he was a tough guy to? Admitting that weakness (love for her) just seemed completely out of place with the rest of his statements.

IMO

Does anyone know where there are document dumps on this case?? You know interviews that LE had w/ individuals?

I’ve read seemingly everything on Caylee/Casey but I can’t find any discovery docs for Haleigh Cummings/Misty/Ron/Tommy/Overstreet etc.

TIA,

L

So true. However, I don’t think Misty is near smart enough to beat a LDT or to even think she can. She is very slow and not real smart. She dropped out in 6th grade. She doesn’t know what the word ‘numerical’ means when asked for her address and she doesn’t know 10% of 10,000, etc.. She is not a mastermind or a sociopathic killer. When she failed the first test, she insisted on another, and another….because in her mind, she is telling the truth. Her mind is very much destroyed by lack of education, use of drugs, hx of abuse, socio-economic status and no telling what else.

March 16 2009 Orlando Health put a lein against R W Kieser

satisfaction filed 05/11/2009

HollyG, Sr. during the river search, when he was confronted by reporter.

JenM , you are right, she is really slow. compared to my daughters who are her age but dont think like her at all, look at her parents though, the mother! giggling and laughing with her on them JHT’s about some salt and what not if that was my daughter in that siuation , you would of seen a whole different thing, they wouldnt of let me back in there!

Lili said,in May 7th, 2010 at 1:18 am

Hi Lily,

There are no doc dumps as of yet. None until someone is finally charged and evidence is transferred between attorney’s offices. Soon we all hope.

Beautiful;
I missed that one but will go look…now I want to see it.

I still can’t find anything substantial on that wreck…weird..

nite! and true ron prob would know she wouldnt have done that if she was afraid, it still seemed out of context for him to say that and then be all sweet to misty days later, she must of had some power over that guy.

Pinky,

LOL !! No Misty’s no wiz w/ percentages nor is Lisa! 😉

i feel for her because of the parents she had, i’m not a perfect mom but dang they are just down right stupid! and misty must be a little smart or afraid or something cuz i would of cracked after 3 minutes of interrogations! lol honest i would have.

😉 Lili – if we just made her a pie graph out of pills… and started taking out slices that she
couldn`t have. She would have that percentage
problem licked within a week. Afterwards, we
could take a picture of her in a cap & gown. lol

She could learn it, I have no doubt.

To get a better “perspective”… well, possibly one, look at the photos of Misty pre-Ron. It’s amazing at what that lifestyle will do to ya!

@Pinky ROFL You are right… you just have to make the math relevant!!! 😉

Have you found it anywhere beautiful? Still looking…day 1, 2, 3, or 4?

In Hardy’s campaign biography he stated his wife, Susan, worked for a local bank, married for 20 years, had a daughter, a son and a daughter-in-law and a two year old grandson.* (This would be in the Fall of 2008 before the election.)

*Noted no names for the daughter or son/daugher in law, and no ages.

His first wife’s father must be the man across the street. Wasn’t too lucky in trying to track down the first wife, didn’t get a name.

This is the first time for me that the pieces of the puzzle fit and behaviors and actions can be understood. God help them and get them strength.

imo

Ann

There is a Richard N Keiser from Alachua county
who did 2 yrs for Robb Gun/deadly weapon

1996-1998 DOB 03/29/1979

Inmate search Florida DOC

Says he was living in Tampa area after release.

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php

Lindsy Croslin files for divorce

I haven’t seen a thing to support any of the croslins or ron for being anything other than scumbags. The same scumbags that “lost” a 5 year old kid somehow. Then they lie as to how it happened. They are quite the crew.

I think they want to stiffen up the precrption pill penalties so we don’t have anna nicole situations. Too many doctors prescribing to much to people and either they od or sell the pills.

Within hours, she’d raced back to Gainesville to pick up Misty’s mother and hightailed it back to the Sheriff’s Department, where she and Timmy joined the long line of family members for interviews, took polygraphs, and watched Ronald and Misty hand over the clothes they were wearing to police. “Ronald was wearing his company jumpsuit, like a blue work outfit that zipped up the front, and they both went in back and took off everything, including their underwear.”

Satsuma or Genoa City?

I thought I read something on Imm’s arrest record about manufacturing methamphetamine. Am I losing it?

What difference does it make if they have a high bond or not? They cant even afford gas in their car to get to the jail to visit so how is anyone going to bail them out???
I, for one, belive Lindsey knows more. She is good at playing innocent but she is definitely NOT

This is probably a case of: We will never find out where Haleigh is and we will never be able to pin it on anyone. There is no evidence of a murder, no weapon, no witnesses, no suspects and no body. No crime, except there is a missing child and a scene that appears to be an abduction.

Then we have a bunch of irresponsible adults who possibly could be involved in the dissapearance, but everyone is being proven to be liars and drug users/abusers/sellers. Most have criminal historys and some have failed lie detectors.

We have cops and specialists who have not been able to figure out where Haleigh is or who is involved in her disappearance now for over a year. They say they have several persons of interest, but don’t name them. They don’t name suspects either.

The pressure is on to clean up this case. They set up those adults connected to Haleigh through a drug bust. Still no clear answers to many questions about Haleigh. Only the public digging for dirt on the individuals and forming opinions on what their involvement was with Haleigh’s dissappearance.

At this rate, we may never find out who is involved. Seems the focus has been taken off of Haleigh and is now on gossiping about the adults, their lifestyles and what’s the latest in their daily lives. I hope we don’t have another Jon Bennet type outcome or a Jaycee Duggard scenario.

Pray that Haleigh comes home.

Drunk Driver Info (I believe)

Richard Kiser DOB 11/20/53

DUI with bodily harm 02/07/09 in Putnam county and got 3 years supervision, currently in Ft Lauderdale

He is listed on the DOC site

LOL OJ, I knew you were going to love that one!

toughcookie said,in May 7th, 2010 at 2:16 am

i find it interesting that this site wants to villify the croslin/cummings families one day,and leap victoriously to their defense another. like a bi-polar mood swing…its dizzying.

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I’m with ya’. I don’t know where all these conspiracy theories comes from. Hardy didn’t set the bond…has NO say. Drug trafficking charges require MUCH higher bonds than what Joshua was arrested for. If folks don’t like it, perhaps they can work on passing different laws. The ONLY thing that took place is Hardy’s son was arrested (rightfully so) and the law was applied to that arrest just like any other arrest. IF people would research they would find the SAME bond for people with the SAME charges. This wasn’t a case of different treatment for different folks. It is a case of different treatment for different crimes AS dictated by the law (not Hardy).

Common sense has escaped so many. FACTS have escaped so many. I don’t get it.

Good Mornin’ Tex! Sure got nuts here yesterday. The fat lady tried to sing but she got splattered by the poop that was flying, and then she drank OJ’s koolaid and hasn’t been seen since! LMAO

While it is certainly true that LE does not have control on the bond amounts, they certainly do have control over the sting operations, how much money they spend, how much drugs they purchase and sell, as well as how many times they initiate the stings.

It is LE that does the sting operations to the degree of being able to charge either trafficking or sales. LE choose to do stings on Misty and the others that would entail drug trafficking charges, not sales charges.

LE choose to only buy a limited amount of meth from Imm and only did one sting (that we know of so far) to keep his charges down to sales and not trafficking.

Well every one seemed hungry yesterday. They have been eating this chit for 15 months and have not learned to purge and start over at the full buffet again. This time I would suggest staying away from anything smelling fishy.

I will stay and help clean up if you can tell me how big herbs get so I can plant them after in the beds I have killed my self making. Twin sister bailed on me … she knows everything about plants, I am a beginner.
IMO the drugs and charges and everyone that does them at this time has nothing to do with HaLeigh or where she is or how any off us can help in that area.
I am totally for harsh sentencing on drug manufacturing and distributing and prescription abuse and turn around to sell on the streets.

JB the Chit is to deep …I am faking a spranged pinky and will come back when it has composted. LOL
I know in my heart this case will be solved and that HaLeigh will have justice.
I wish there was a clear veiw for us all to see the truth, it’s almost like looking at one of those hidden pictures that appear to some as just dots and others a beautiful image, its how you look at it and are able to focus on the important parts and not the whole page. You know what I mean?

Tex – it’s okay…I think I’ll just call the fire department and have them hose down the room. I’ve broken two shovels and three finger nails trying to clean the chit up. Time to call in the big guns! LOL

Selling a pill is not going to blow a house skyhigh like a meth lab. Ever seen one disassembled? You have to attend a 40hr class to be trained how to do it, it’s THAT dangerous! Never seen anyone have to attend a class to raid a house for pills.

LMAO Well it is a shame. A lot of good points have been brought to light over the last few months here, by many of us regulars and some very knowledgeable new posters that I wish we had been all keen on digging further into and diligently avoid the distractions unless they are relavent to HaLeghs aduction.

Ron has a bail hearing at 2:00. It appears from the docket he might be getting out.

Nevermind…I told myself I wasn’t going to do this again today. I think I’ll just drink the conspiracy koolaid and get it over with.
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I don’t give a damn what you drink or do. No one said anything about a conspiracy, except you. Idiot.

And so it begins…AGAIN….good grief….. Let’s just hang Hardy from the old oak tree in the center of town…he’s probably the one that kidnapped Haleigh anyway. Heck, let’s elect Ronald Cummings for President while we’re at it. Misty can be First Lady. They can adopt Lindsy and Tommy’s dog to be First Dog…at least maybe SOMEONE will take the poor dog out to pee anyway.

LOL

JB your not getting it honey. It is a small town and corruption is real and a NEW Sheriff in town is a big deal and he stepped on toes and cut the waste upon his arrival. Its not rocket science or brain surgery to many just politics.

Stillucy…yeah, but I’m just an idiot, or so I’m told. You might want to find a different page to hang out on rather than being on the same page with me. Very unpopular place to be. Brings about a lot of name calling, bashing and hatred….for some reason.

I changed my mind! It was scary here when the sun went down, now it’s looking scarier when the sun is up.
If for some reason that scumbag Ron does make bail today, that’s were the real travesty of justice is…….He is totally involved in his daughters death not abduction! Neglect, drugs, whatever, he’s a liar and unfit to care for himself let alone anything else.
Ron was in on everyone of the drug transactions if he walks, they all should walk.

This site is the king of posting the Misty/Tommy jail tapes. I find Tommy’s tapes with Lindsy by far the best. I also feel we are about to enter the best phase of these tapes. That, or Lindsy, just cuts him off, thus leaving us with no more listening material. Honestly, I think we may have just a few tapes left to be aired at this point between Lindsy and Tommy, before she says, “BYE BYE”.

JB – Don`t let it get to ya. You`re correct… different charges. I`m sure if Sheriff Hardy`s son was a suspect in a homicide investigation he`d be getting every charge they think they could make stick too. …but he is not. Cummings and Croslin are exactly where they need to be… and not going anywhere. Doesn`t Ronald have a bond reduction hearing today at 2:30? We`ll see how that goes. I`d tell him to go pound sand and like it.

“Vicious Republicans” new blog, I know where someone needs to go………

Stilllucy….well, I was just trying to state my opinion. Was being nice about it too. But it appears some don’t want to discuss facts. They just want to spew venom. Truly sad. Thanks for being supportive. I’m not going anywhere either. Will take a lot more than being called an idiot (for speaking the truth) to run me off.

Pinky – careful, you’ll incite vicious and hate laced posts on yourself! LMAO. Thanks for the kindness as well. Not going to let it get to me. If speaking the FACTS is too much for some, they can go blog with NG and her “BOMBSHELLS” which are generally absent of fact or even reason for that matter.

Phrydoom – I too am addicted to the tapes and for me it is like watching a freak reality show. Too bad the subject is so real and horrifying.

I think lowering Ronald’s bond will be the final straw for an increasingly stressed out Misty! I think it is a good strategy. I do believe he is guilty though. IMO!

A bunch of yelling about nothing since Imms is still not bailed out and may never get bailed out. Whats the difference in 7000 or 70,000 if no is there to make your bail? He doesnt have anyone to hand over the $700 so its a moot point. I dont think there is any chance LP or AH putting up his bail is there? Remember how bail works if you use a bailsman you dont get back your 10%(700).JMO

Not surprised to hear Ronald Cummings has a bond hearing.

IMO, Ron Cummings knows way too much and if he talks, Hardy’s son may never again have to worry about his name again as he will forever known by Inmate #……..

It is time the FBI step in and clean this up. Wouldn’t call the local fire dept as they could be involved as well.

People that are fair-minded examine each and every side with a fair mind. They do not set opinions and assumptions in cement and back themselves into a corner from where they feel they would look foolish to change their minds.

Until late last night I was sure with my opinions and assumptions that Ronald Cummings was guilty. (He is guilty of selling drugs, and has a long record and never had consequences that is true – it is all in his criminal record and on the tapes.)

However, I no longer feel he is guilty of directly harming Haleigh. He did place her in harm’s way because of his choice in selling drugs and being involved in the drug trade.

However, we are here to try and solve Haleigh’s disappearance.

In my mind, I find the pieces of this puzzle are finally fitting in place. Now, whether they stay there, or if a few pieces are different shapes than how I see them at this juncture, we will see.

Open minds, fairness, in honestly seeking justice for everyone, is the page I am on.

Falsely accusing someone in the name of justice for Haleigh is not justice. Finding the person or persons that brought harm to this little precious child is justice. It doesn’t matter to be who is involved, they all have to pay the consequences of this crime.

It can sit on Sheriff Hardy’s doorstep, at law enforcement doorstep, with Theres, with Sykes, Crystal Sheffied, Ronald Cummings, Misty, Tommy, Timmy, Hank Sr., or any of the others, it doesn’t matter to me – all I am interested in is true justice and those responsible be made to pay whoever they are.

Can you all forget for a very minutes the names of any of these characters, please –

Ron said at the get go – first 911 call – ‘they’ took her, you let ‘them’ take her,
he was in deep grief (I thought because he was guilty, but now I am thinking differently — because I have an open mind not because I am bi-polar, thank you).

Misty was drained. Junior says he saw a man in black and heard squeaky shoes. Heard the sofa bounce too.

Ron was behind in his rent – was having problems with money.

Perhaps, now just perhaps, he owed his drug suppliers lots of money, let’s say the figure of $35,000. (That was the figure Hank Sr. used so Ron could get Haleigh back.)

Bouncing sofa – raping Misty.

These drug dealers, suppliers, the people Ron owes, say, $35,000 to, then take Haleigh.

They know Ron, have known him very well. They are all in the same drug business. They are well aware Haleigh is Daddy’s little girl. They know it will send a very clear message, not only to Ron, but to everyone else to not mess with them and pay your debts.

Ron may have been threatened if he didn’t pay. He just didn’t imagine that, perhaps, a school buddy would ever take his child. He thought they would give him more time to come up with the money.

What could Ron do at that point, if these drug suppliers, who, by the way, only lived and had their Meth Lab only 3 and 1/2 miles away had connections and influence within law enforcement itself, he would be putting his entire family at risk as well as himself.

Ron did the only thing he could do, he made threats that he would kill these people – he repeated that over in many different ways. He has always maintained he would handle it his own way, they would be wasted. Yes, even if he had to spend the rest of his life in prison.

Drug dealers are ruthless, heartless and fearless.

Misty could never talk, so she lied and never passed a LDT. Too many lives are are stake to risk doing anything like that.

Theresa, Sykes, and Ron all know what Misty went through that night, they are in fear themselves of what could happen if Misty talked.

Don’t know what Tommy knows as Tommy is a loose cannon. Perhaps he knows something, as he said recently, something that Ron happened to say, perhaps, one night when they were high. It referenced his children. Would these people come back and take Junior?

T and C knew. They got to h-ll out of there as quickly as possible for the sake of the safety of their own children.

Lindsy just came to know and is furious that Tommy continued to place their family in such a position. She is alone at night with their children. She is terrified.

Hence, the hurried divorce.

Now, are the drug dealers the ones arrested yesterday. Don’t know. It is the location of their manufacturing plant that makes one suspicious. It is their connection with influence within law enforcement in Putnam County.

I respect and value all your opinions and scenarios of what went down that night when Haleigh went missing.

My personal opinions only,

Ann

JB, you are not an idiot!!!! I wish we all could get along. Back to work, break over

LOL! Another good strategy would be to lower Ron`s bail but have Misty carry out the calculations of percentage it should be lowered
by. That should take us right up to the Casey Anthony trial of 2011 for an answer.

curious, do you have the link for RC’s cancelled hearing???

Pinkyandduhbrain said,in May 7th, 2010 at 10:46 am

ROFLMAO 😆

Do you think the bond hearing is canceled because new charges are coming?

I just checked in.
JB you are an awesome person and we agree on the facts that have been presented. I know it took me awhile to be convinced that Haleighs dad was involved, but I remained suspicious due to his bizarre behaviour. I now believe he is involved! Thank you stillucy for pointing out the fact it was Crystal who found Steve Brown to find out what happened to her daughter. Ronald has done absolutely nothing to search for Haleigh; not even the night she disappeared!!!!!!
Crystal has made her mistakes and I believe she has true regrets, but when it came to finding Haleigh she put herself out there although it did not make her look good as a mom. It has been Ronald lying to the public!!!
Everyone claims they were out to smear Ron; poor Ron!! The claims were drug parties, sex parties and abuse allegations. Well, so far none of this has been slander!! It has been fact. We will find out if there was abuse other than just NEGLECT. In all honesty It was RON that proved to all of us he is a bold face liar to save his own butt. He should of put himself out there like Crystal did. He should of did it for HALEIGH!!!
I hope he does not get out! I am tired of him using Haleigh to his benefit, but blames it was because of Haleighs missing case that he got stung!!!! Dana Treen did the interview of him in jail. This is where he talks about if there would of not been a case on Haleigh he would not be there ( paraphrasing), but he does not mind using the grieving daddy campaign when it benefits him. SO SO SO SAD!!!!

Hank and Lisa are hiding in plain sight. They were seen getting gas the other day, reported by someone to media after Granny Hollars was on with Levi, Sunday night. They just aren’t taking any calls from anyone, family included.

If Ron gets a vacation from jail I hope he enjoys it. He’ll be back in jail soon for the drug sales.

Unless he is the snitch and gets off, wouldn’t surprise me in the wacky case.

I wonder who would be paying the fee? Or is LP going to do it for the publicity. Like him or not, a ton of people know who he is. He’s gotten his name out there for sure. Don’t know if that’s a good thing or not.

Hey JB! Goodmorning to you too . (((( HUGS)))).
I was really peeved. There truely is no need for that kind of display! We all love Haleigh and want to know what happened to her and severe punishments handed down.
I know you can hold your own. I just felt you needed to know you are truely loved and respected here.

B*A – I just don’t think Hardy’s son got any special treatment is my point. I totally agree the bond amount for Hardy’s son (and specifically the crime he committed) should be higher. But the law is what it is. The only thing that made me nuts was everyone screaming about Hardy being corrupt, Hardy this and Hardy that. The way the law is written Joshua got the same bond for his crime as others have gotten for the same crime. Trafficking holds a MUCH higher bond amount. Is that the way it should be? Probably not. But it is what it is. If folks don’t like it, change the law. But they shouldn’t go for Hardy’s jugglar because he has NO control, had nothing to do with the bond amount and didn’t write the law that dictates that bond amount.

It just made me nuts how vicious everyone was being about Hardy. You know I love ya! Always will! But the OJ / Jason slander campaign was over-the-top and absent of fact. I did the checking and did the homework and Joshua was not treated any differently than others who faced the same charges. His charges and the Croslin / Cummings charges are very different in the eyes of the justice system. People were comparing apples to oranges and slamming Hardy when Hardy didn’t create the rules, the laws or have any say in the bond amount. That was the ONLY point I was trying to make.

Now, HUGS! Pleeeasssseeeee????? 😀

Stilllucy…I don’t know if it has been cancelled or not. Couldn’t find anything on FirstCoast or anywhere else saying it was cancelled. Has anyone found anything?

JB… I’m not angry with you or your point of view. I was not leaning in the corrupt Hardy direction. But, I worked for the Sheriff, I know how they take care of the own, doesn’t mean it’s Hardy. ((((HUGS)))) always.

LFJ…again, thank you my dear. You’re a sweetheart. But don’t worry about me. I’m a big girl and I can take it…..but it is nice to have my pals here to hand me a bandaid afterwards! LOL

B*A….are you still here? Don’t be upset with me! You KNOW I love ya! Dang, guess I’m gonna have to build me another dog house….. *sigh*

So they drop it to 500k or 250k, who’s got that kind of money or property or even 10% for the fee. The actual bail bond isn’t free to those that risk his flight. I don’t think ron will flee, but, that’s why they have bonds.

Interesting news on ole ronnie boy.

Are my posts @ 11:19 & 11:22 not showing up? My refresh is taking forever.

Y/W JB. Hey BA how are you doing? Hope all is well.

B*A…my refresh is taking awhile too…your posts did come through. Just takes awhile to get a response back to you! LOL

B*A…phewwww….I wasn’t looking forward to the Milkbone treats either! LOL

Ahhh, yes, peace and harmony…… enjoy it while it lasts kids….I’m sure it will be short lived.

So what is your all’s guess as to why Ron’s hearing could be cancelled?

Someone wondered who would post Rons bail lets see,
1.LP
2.NG
3.Shoemaker
I bet 2 people will be very angry and ready to bust a blood vessel. LOL JMO

Hey Tobias….I see you survived the onslaught yesterday and last night! LOL Need a bandaid? I think some of us are walking wounded today! LOL But it’s all good!

So do you think someone is bailing Ronnie out? Or do you think a deal is in the works? Or maybe charges about to be filed? What do you think?

I’m not patient either!

The fact that the spokesperson from the State Attorney’s office is the one who said the hearing could be cancelled is what has my curiousity peaked. What do THEY know? What is going on behind the scenes? A deal? Hmmmmmm….my mind is racing! LOL

We need someone down there to tell us if they see Teresa or Grandma arriving. I’m just like JB I am not good at waiting.

Tobias…that is what I’m thinking….he had a front row seat to watch Hope get sentenced….he may have decided he better pony up and cut a deal or he’s looking at some SERIOUS time. Let’s hope that is the case anyway. Time will tell.

B*A…I don’t think patience is a virtue any of us has! LOL

He won’t be out that long. But, I’m thinking if I was ‘in’ I’d want be ‘out’ pretty bad.

Hopefully ron doesn’t knock up some high school girl while out.

Miss Betty – okay….who lives the closest? LOL Someone get on the road and go stake out the courthouse and watch for any signs of a Cummings! LOL We need news already!

Stilllucy…my patience left the country! We need some answers and Haleigh needs justice.

I’m just hoping between Hope’s sentencing, the high bonds, the serving of divorce papers, the fog of drugs lifting and the smack of reality is FINALLY getting through to at least one of these players and the truth will soon be told.

MADJGNLAW said,in May 7th, 2010 at 11:25 am
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Thank you for all your info on the bond hearing today!

Tobias, I had heard last week that Ron’s lawyer was canceling it. Don’t know if it is true or why. But I hope they grant it, reduce his bond to little or let him out on his own. Anything and anyway just let him out, for the same reason you said, what a great strategy!!!!! Let the other 2 lose it, and lose it good, maybe we will hear some TRUTH. Something that has been far from this case. Haleigh deserves TRUTH!!!!

My new chant is:

TRUTH FOR HALEIGH
TRUTH FOR HALEIGH
TRUTH FOR HALEIGH

Good Morning to you, JB!
I’ve missed you..Been reading but still standing in the shadows for fear of being trampled to death, lol
I’m a little confused about the info Madj posted at 11:25 am re: the bond hearing today. Can you scroll up, take a look at it for me? Seems this has been in the works for awhile. News4jax is covering but maybe no cameras?? Thanks!

According to the post Ron`s bond reduction was filed on 4-26-2010 and was scheduled for the hearing today. It will be interesting to see what happens, as I am sure Simon will update us if he indeed gets someone to post bond and he walks free.

JB I will join you but someone would have to hold my feet up for me to stand on my head. LOL

Gainesville.com

Cummings, 26, is charged with five counts of trafficking narcotics, with bond set at $900,000. A reduction hearing was set for 2 p.m. in Putnam County but was canceled and has not been rescheduled

Treece…LOL I’ll be right over! 😀

B*A….really? But I guess no indication as to why, huh? Why would Ron’s atty cancel it? Does that say “DEAL IN THE WORKS” to anyone else or am I just doing wayyyyy too much wishful thinking?

Treece….please be wearing appropriate clothing when I get there…..no skirt and a thong please! LMAO

Miss Betty – LMAO…..it probably soiled his last clean pair while he was in court for Hope’s sentencing! Hee Hee Hee

LFJ…sumpin’ HAS to be in the works. I can’t think of another reason why his atty would cancel. I think Hope’s sentencing might have forced Ron into a “come to Jesus” moment. I hope so anyway!

I think I remember from the Caylee case that when KC Anthony was indicted for murder it became a “no bond” situation, right?
Either a deal OR new charges coming?

Do you suppose the evidence from the boat ramp has come back? Maybe someone else is talking now too? Wished we knew the reasons. jmo

KIR. Lord I hope so. Haleigh needs the truth to come out so that she can rest in peace and those responsible give her the JUSTICE she is due.

I wonder if TJ will have any info on the cancelation?

If ron gets out, he should go visit misty and tommy. Wouldn’t that be some good audio!!?

Gainesville says it was cancelled but no further info. Ugh. Somebody tell us SOMETHING!

And who is Jonathan Creek?

Why is Times Square being evacuated? What now? Ugh!

Chakra7…huh? LOL You lost me.

Not sure what you are talking abourt Ann.

I am new to post on this board, but I have been reading it for a few weeks.

I just got an email saying that Ron Cummings has been granted a bail reduction hear @ 2pm today but it was cancelled.

Also I noticed that Lindsy Croslins YouTube page reads…..I am single and moving on.
I was not sure if anyone else noticed that.

Thank You
Nikki6

Nikki6 , yes I noticed it. Lyndsey also has posted that she is not in a good place right now.

I forgot to say welcome Nikki6.

I was just going through some videos on you tube and in one Ron and the kids are brushing their teeth. I noticed that Ron is not sporting the tattoo of teresa on his chest at that time. I wonder when he got the tattoo just a curious thing. jmo

Looking for justice,

Perhaps you are much to wise to have read the silly posts of this morning wherein certain ones on here suggested being bi-polar, changing one’s mind like the wind, actually most of it within the realm of perhaps even a Felony 1 – much worse than manufacturing and selling Meth; or riding around with all the chemicals to make Meth along with a small child in your vehicle.

God forbid that anyone should be open minded and fair in accessing new information and processing whether or not any of the new information changes the unknown positions of assumption which have been explored.

Law Enforcement in Putnam County have done no favors to Sheriff Hardy by that little technically of not charging the Privilege 4 with Trafficking – which seems to be what everyone on here is riding on.

Selling and manufacturing meth is a Schedule l, higher than selling hydrordone, oxycodone, etc.

Trying to find out the amounts they had to determine in a just and fair manner whether they should or should not have been charged.

However, perhaps by coincidence, Putnam County’s jail records are down – unable to access them.

And, also, odd, there are no documents to be found with regard to Imms. Of course the documents are readily available for everyone else. Again, what a coincidence to be happening at the same time. It may be that it crashed – no doubt it is overloaded.

This has infuriated so many people who feel our criminal justice system should treat everyone equal under the law. But the harsh reality, which we have seen with Ronald Cummings and his extensive criminal record, it does not.

IMO

Ann

Oh ! I do not feel my opinion is in cement. I feel very strong and it took me awhile to even come to the conclusions I have.I went and checked the inmate population earlier today. Joshua was still incarcerated at that time right along with Ronald Cummings this was about 11:30am eastern time. Is this a different web site than the one rferenced/

Tobias…how old did the kids look in the vid of Ron and the kids brushing their teeth? Just curious.

I think there could be an element of truth in all the theories, including conspiracy ones. After all something has to account for all the odd behaviors. Face it, it is pretty shocking that the son of J. Hardy is involved in some serious drug charges, and he has a 2 yr old. Is this whole drug scene a way of life over in the big S? Poverty really brings on the urge for some form of instant gratification it appears. These people know all to well they can work till the cows come home and never earn enough to enjoy life, let alone manage to keep a roof over their heads. Not making excuses for druggies but it seems to go with the territory. And with the advent of Rx. drugs it’s becoming an epidemic in all walks of life. JMO

Haleigh looks to be about 4 and junior looks about 2. Its on you tube its called Haleighs story. jmo

Its by kelly emeral. Haleigh -her story. jmo

LFJ…can’t talk now…playing with my crayons and coloring book…waiting to grow up. LMAO

Sheewww doggies….gotta go get my dead opinions out of the cement before it dries! Nothing worse than a dead opinion crusted over with dried cement. ROFLMAO

hi everybody— anyone here, now?

JB,

Be sure and take those bandaids in case you get cut on the dried cement.

Glad to hear you consider the cement dead – that’s uplifting at least.

imo

A

Does this mean she was taken to prison? I thought she got 15yrs? Did ask for a rehearing, but looks like she is out of jail now!

Snip” http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758547&IMG=53175

HOPE ANTWANETTE SYKES
PALATKA, FL
Booking Date & Time: 1/20/2010 10:37:05 PM – Booking#: 10-00279
Release Date & Time: 5/7/2010 7:15:06 AM
DOB: 3/24/1991 – RACE: W – SEX: F

Ann…I’m not trying to argue with you but your post made me giggle about the website being down and LE was dumping the records in the dumpster and how our opinions are dead in cement…..sorry…just made me chuckle. I’m glad something I said proved “uplifting” to you…even if you said it tongue in cheek….cause you make me giggle and no bandaids are required for that….unless I fall down laughing….but nothing has been THAT funny yet.

Sometimes you laugh to keep from crying in this case……

Miss Betty…I don’t know what is going on with Ron and his bond but I would sure LOVE to know why the hearing was cancelled. I pray it means there is a break in the case, charges are pending in regard to Haleigh and a deal is being worked. But it could be something as simple as the atty had something come up and so they cancelled. Only time will tell I guess. Keep your fingers and toes crossed it means something good that will bring justice for Haleigh! 😀

JB, It just occured to me it was on the 27th that they asked for the bond hearing, so maybe Shoemaker was hpoeful that Haleigh would be found and the story Tommy was telling would be the truth so now we know its not the case and he canceled. Could be who knows just throwing out thoughts. jmo

Tobias – well, I guess that is just as possible as anything else we’ve come up with! If it is true that Shoemaker is the one who cancelled then it has to be because of a deal, because of charges or something perhaps like a conflict with scheduling….but I’m REALLY hoping this means something is about to break loose on this case. I hold on to every little sliver of news in hopes that maybe, JUST maybe, we will get justice for Haleigh. Some days it is much harder to be hopeful than others.

Off Topic:

OREGON CITY, Ore. — A Clackamas County judge reached a verdict Friday in what prosectuors called one of the worst child abuse cases they had ever seen.

Assault, criminal mistreatment and reckless endangerment charges against 23-year-old Derek Piskorski stemmed from the alleged abuse of a 3-year-old boy.

The judge read a lengthy verdict just before noon, declaring Piskorski guilty on five counts of assault.

Piskorski was dating the child’s mother when he was accused of pouring scalding water over the child’s neck, shoulders and back of his head, causing severe burns. He was also accused of putting the 3-year-old boy into a freezer.

Prosecutors showed graphic pictures in court Thursday.

In court Thursday, state prosecutors showed very graphic pictures of the boy’s injuries. The child was treated at the hospital for a week and was living with relatives.

Investigators said the abuse happened between December and January.

The child’s mother, Katey Scheurman, pleaded guilty last month for failure to intervene and sentenced to 180 days in jail along with three years’ probation.

Scheurman told KGW in a jail interview that she was not able to protect her son.

“I was just not thinking. I guess didn’t know how to protect him right,” she said

Piskorski’s trial was being determined by a judge rather than a jury.

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Now I ask you, how could a mother say “I guess I didn’t know how to protect him right”? If someone is scalding your child I say grab something, ANYTHING and club the creep over the head, call police and get your child to a hospital. She did NOTHING! This world gets sicker by the second. Every day it is more and more cases like this. UGH!

I’m with you two on this one as well. Women have to be held accountable for protecting their children from these horrible abusers. I would consider making Scheurman’s sentence as hefty as Piskorski’s.

I find it hard to believe that Hardy did not know his son was manufacturing meth–and in a trailer a little over 3 miles from Ron and a missing child case. He cleared SOs quickly, but did he investigate any known drug dealers, considering these people`s backgrounds and statements made? Is LE plagued with drugs too (remember Ron mentioned Merchant and Tommy mentioned Hardy`s son on tapes). I think its time LE cleans its own backyard before condemning someone else`s. JMO

I find it hard to believe that Hardy did not know his son was manufacturing meth–and in a trailer a little over 3 miles from Ron and a missing child case. He cleared SOs quickly, but did he investigate any known drug dealers, considering these people`s backgrounds and statements made? Is LE plagued with drugs too (remember Ron mentioned Merchant and Tommy mentioned Hardy`s son on tapes). I think its time LE cleans its own backyard before condemning someone else`s. JMO

Talking about ‘scalding’ – wasn’t there something about Haleigh going to school with her hands bandaged :), and it was attributed to Ronald putting her hands in scalding water because she didn’t behave?

Anyone remember anything like that – or am I starting to hallunicate also?

Also, now just sit down, take a deep breath:

You are right they did not charge the Privilege 4 with Trafficking – finally found the charges and the Statutes involved.

893.149-1a; 893.13//a/ 893.13-7a5 893.147-1
827.03-k (child endangerment)

They probably can hang their badges on there not being 14 grams – okay, I accept these are the charges LE filed.

But what they obviously missed in the charging phrase the applicable trafficking charge under trafficking Statute 893.13

Statute 893.13(l)(g) reads and I quote:

“Harm to children. The manufacture of methamphelamine or the possession of a listed precursor or essential chemical with intent to manufacture methamphetamine is

l. a first degree felony with a five year minimum mandatory sentence if the commission or attempted commission of the crime occurs in a structure or conveyance {they were charged with maintaining a drug vehicle – all four had that charge} where any child under sixteen years is present.

So, please some enlightenment soul please explain!

Do have to add, hard for my imagination to picture this group of people who had been monitored by police for some time, who owned a Meth Lab, who were four, who were selling to undercover officers, who had in their possession chemicals to make meth, to maintain a drug vehicle, and be in possession of drug
paraphilania, to actually have less than 20 grams when counted???

Again, enlightenment please as to how anyone might think this could happen!

IMO

Ann

Kate – LOL – I can understand Ron’s atty asking for the bond reduction hearing….just trying to figure out why he cancelled it! LOL But I hope it is for a good reason too.

AMEN JB! I for one am sick of it too, a mother who’ll take better care of a piece of sh#t than her own child!

tobias said,in May 7th, 2010 at 2:07 pm I dont understand the not being able to protect her son part. Was she tied up? Knocked out? Was she beaten up first? It amazes me how the mothers can make excuses for not protecting their kids. I am with you on this one .jmo

Actually Tobias,my opinion is the “Mother” should be held more accountable,she is the one who is supposed to protect her child,not a drugged and drunk loser who has no emotion anyway! it tix me off so bad! A chilkd looks to his Mommy to protect him!

new article at jax..

Dad: Misty, Hank ‘Didn’t Hurt Haleigh’
Parents Of Misty Cummings, Hank Croslin Jr. Talk About Haleigh Case

Butler was transported to the Putnam County Jail and booked on the following charges:

1) Producing methamphetamine
2) Possession of listed chemicals used to manufacture methamphetamine
3) Trafficking in methamphetamine
4) Resisting an officer without violence.

His bond was set at $23,016.00

Here is a bond set for someone in Putnam with the addition of “Trafficking” in methamphetamine and his bond is only $23k.

But here is another one being held without bond in Putnam Co:

Rodney Eugene May was arrested on the listed charges and transported to the Putnam County Jail. He is currently being detained without the benefit of a bond.

Charges:
1.Producing methamphetamine
2.Possessing methamphetamine with intent to sell
3.Possession of listed chemicals with intent to manufacture Methamphetamine

Here is a guy in Putnam that was arrested for trafficking pills…but it was for fewer pills….much lower bond than Tommy, Misty, Ron, etc.:

Stevens was arrested and booked into the Putnam County Jail on the listed charges. His bond was set at $11,508.00.

Charges:
1. Trafficking in a scheduled II controlled substance 14 to 28 grams
2. Issuing Fraudulent Prescriptions

And all of these folks were arrested together but only one was not given bond…and their bonds are a lot lower than Imms:
Tony Lee Williams, DOB: 01/19/1963

Manufacture of methamphetamine
Possession of methamphetamine with intent to sell.
Possession of chemicals used to manufacture a cont. substance.
Possession of drug paraphernalia
Maintaining a drug dwelling
Theft of electrical services
His bond was set at $4,520.00

Ralph Michael Smith, DOB: 3/6/1964

Possession of chemicals used to manufacture a controlled substance.
Violation of probation
Contempt of court
His bond was set at $5,008.00

Wendy Charlene Marx, DOB: 10/28/1968

Possession of chemicals used to
manufacture a controlled substance.
Her bond was set at $2,504.00

Michelle Gibson, DOB: 05/25/1976

Possession of chemicals used to
manufacture a controlled substance.
Gibson was also arrested on an active arrest warrant for violation of probation.
She was booked into the Putnam County Jail without the benefit of a bond.

Just trying to do some comparisons……

Can anyone tell me why TN did not raise Ronald or his sister? Why did GGMa Sykes raise them? Something isn’t right about that.

Hank hasnt even got one penny in his pocket? Whats that tell you? The reason he did the one time interview with them. They are in a one room boarding house, no money, no job, but nothing on all their charges and drug use. lol People will be feeling sorry for them and yes will be dumb enough to give them money.jmo

yw-OJ

I so Hope the bond reduction cancellation means a deal or someone talking Please, Please, Please JUSTICE FOR HALEIGH!!!!

YES to you, Robin, about LE cleaning their own backyard.

bbl

JB, I will wait on the final decree on the divorce. I think she did it because she wants to stay in Palm Coast and with that name she knows she isnt going to get a job and I have a feeling she is going along with others advice(LP) SO SHE CAN GET THE nISSAN SHE WANTS. JMO

Question: Are any of the Sheriff’s grandchildren missing due to his son’s drug dealing escapades?

Statement: Ingedients used to manufacture meth could be as simple as a sudafed tablet.

Just saying…………Does anyone know?

Bravao Tobias,she’s a user!

JB,remenber also she told Tommy she’d wait till HER FRIEND got here to fix the van or get a new car…….i wish padilkla could wake up!
Do Lisa and Hank have their car he bought?

stilllucy,

According to Hardy’s own bio for the Sheriff campaign, he had only one grandchild, at that time Fall ’08 two years of age. Since the grandchild was mentioned right after his son and his daughter in law, I am assuming it is his son. No partner was mentioned for the daughter. No names of the daughter, son, daugher-in-law or grandchild, or ages, were given.

imo

A

Croslins make me sick cause there are alot of people out of work, living in one room places, and have no money, and they have no criminal backgrounds, paid their bills and are just trying to stay above water. They are getting everything they deserve for all the months they let this go on. Why didnt Hank tell everyone how he keeps telling Misty to stop telling stories OH NO he says they didnt do anything.PPPHHHTTT. jmo

I guess the kid in the car wasn’t Hardy’s grandchild….but NO child should be subjected to that garbage. I hope the family they placed this child with are suitable and not more meth-heads!

I’M SORRY AND I KNOW ITS NOT HIS FAULT WHAT HAPPENED BUT PICK YOURSELF UP,TRY ATLEAST!
And stop reaching for handouts!

He and Lisa have no babies at home? Thats what UI thought when Johnny passed,never been alone ever,was terrified,never worked cuz of reasons i don’t need to get into just now,lol but i had no babies at home and even now sure i could go get handouts but i refuse too,someone who has kids or disabled needs it way more than me and after i pay my bills if i have 20 bux,i am fine!

JB

Please tell me how you arrived at an assumption that the child in the car isn’t Hardy’s grandchild?

Is that known for a fact?

All I heard is family members came and got the child and Childrens Protection Services were called.

If you know who the child is related to, please give us a link, or a hint.

Thanks.

A

BINGO JB,he hasn’t! and i am fed up,I saw this documentary years ago about a little old lady in NY who eats “catfood” lemme tell ya…….I am nowhere near that so I thank God if i have balogna!

Hank not having a job has everything to do with his criminal record, his poor education and he cant even pass a physical. Lisa on the other hand is healthy but with no teeth and her criminal background who will hire her? tHEY COULDNT GET A JOB EVEN IF THIS WASNT AN ISSUE PPPPLLLLEEEZZ,.Its their own fault and no one elses. jmo

The child was probably the grandchild of the ex-wife and new husband, the ex son of the Sheriff. The ex son of the Sheriff did take his new dad’s name.

Ron’s bail hearing canceled, not rescheduled for a ” bombshell” reason. Can’t be publicly disclosed at this time. Likely all will know why by end of next week. Misty will be in jail a long time.

LE did not destroy anyone they destroyed themselves by doing illegal activities. Hank, Lisa, Tommy, and Misty they all were doing illegal activities that caused them to be arrested and charged. No one forced them into doing any of the things they did. All LE did was their job in arresting them. jmo

JB: If the MagicMan had a commissary account, you know who would be happy to help him out!

OMG, I’m turning into one of them……

Right Tobias,Agree 100%
If i’d been arrested when i used…….my fault!

JB,

Okay, so I took the same math class as Misty!

A

According to Misty and the rest of them this is nothing new for Hank and Lisa. Misty claims to have been living in the car and being homeless, this is no big shock for them. Hank and Lisa have lived like this off and on for their whole lives. jmo

Misty and simpson, both “innocent” wink, wink, of one crime but get busted on another, dead to rights. Karma, as they say, is a beyotch.

This whole way of “staying on message” with her innocence sounds like a political battle, if you say something wnough, maybe people will belive it.

The court will decide though and we’ll see who is sitting for how many decades to pay for the crime commited. Works out in the end, I guess. Imo

-news4jax
The parents were asked that when the Haleigh case comes to an end, will their son and daughter be vindicated for the girl’s disappearance.

Croslin Sr. said: “I think they’ll be found innocent, yeah, of not harming her. I don’t know what happened — what they know or what happened — but I know either one of them didn’t hurt that baby.”

I love how he has to throw in NOT HARMING her.

Nobody asked him that – stop it, stop it already!!!

Breaking News: Another day, Hank Sr. still knows NOTHING!

My husband did,and his mom followed circuses,honestly she did………..with men!

Hank Croslin Jr. “My heart goes out to Haleigh’s parents, Ronald (Cummings) and all of them.”

-ALL 7 of them thar parents.

Pinky – ROFLMAO – OMG….too funny! “All 7 of them thar parents.” I snarfed over that one! My co-workers are laughing at me because I’m snarfing! LOL

For five months, Croslin Sr. and his 40-year-old wife have called a tiny room home. They stay in a board house in Putnam County and are unemployed. They said they don’t THINK anyone will hire them because of their reputation.

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You don’t have to THINK if you’ve TRIED to get a job!

Oyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! Donkeys learn faster.

roflmao@Tobias! Spoken like a true smartass!

JB

Remember that old commercial jingle

“I am stuck on bandaid, and bandaid is stuck on me” +)

A

Cathy, TY I cant see how he can stand there and say those two wouldnt do it when they beat their own father up for pills. jmo

Amen Tobias,me either!!!!

Let me get this straight, are you saying Misty whooped Hank “Magic Man” Sr’s AZZ too?

Hey B*A…..You’re back! YIPEEEEE! I’m not sure who whooped who but I have a feeling it happened a lot with this bunch.

According to what Lindsy says on the tape YES. She says you two when refering to that incident its on the tapes. jmo

Ann – as much as I would LOVE to see some charges, any charges, brought against NG….I don’t see it happening. LE has to make the videos available to the defense first….only then are they released to the public. The defense may not have viewed them before they aired but I find it hard to believe they weren’t provided the information before NG got a hold of it. I could be wrong…it’s been known to happen! LOL

Miss Betty said,
in May 7th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

I don’t think he was doing much better before Haleigh became missing

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I think you are right about that. The solution is already in his head – I do not want to work. Then, he goes out and seeks the reason of the day, why not – In 2010 the big evil monster that is stopping him from working
is the law. In 1980,1990,2000…he found other things to blame it on.

That media thing has bit that little cutie pie CA’s attorney in the butt, too. Cause he’s lazy.

It’s awfull difficult to be seen in the public when you’re sitting in a room viewing tape after tape after tape and listening to tape after tape after tape.

My previous comment was written for those who have a “gut feel” for why there has been absolute silence lately regarding this case. And wondering why Ron had his bail hearing canceled.

My comment required, and this comment requires an okay prior to being written.

I agreed to do that for legal reasons. It was meant to only provide information that goes along with the idea that yes, there was a big reason for the hearing cancellation. All important players are feeling real pressure and panicking.

The heat is on, Misty knows she could spend the rest of her days in prison, and she is isolated and not doing well.

I wish I could say more specifics but that would not help Haleigh’s case. In time you will know more. You’ll just have to wait. I think my original comment allows you to see the direction of where things are going.

They only need one jury to find them/him/her innocent and that will muck up everything for awhile.

As long as we don’t have misty proponents or opponents on the jury, its down the river, I hope, if they knew and had a hand in this little girls death.

Of course, the drug trafficking charges are pretty clear as what went on, although I haven’t seen the entire tape, only what’s been released. So that’s a jail sentence worthy of note.

On the haleigh deal, someone has to crack.

homespain: Noted.

Oh Miss Betty,

The car was stolen – by a friend they gave a ride to. Just happened to have left the keys inside – always do that in a safe neighborhood!

Ann

They only need one jury to find them/him/her innocent and that will muck up everything for awhile.

As long as we don’t have misty proponents or opponents on the jury, its down the river, I hope, if they knew and had a hand in this little girls death.

Of course, the drug trafficking charges are pretty clear as what went on, although I haven’t seen the entire tape, only what’s been released. So that’s a jail sentence worthy of note.

On the haleigh deal, someone has to crack more than they already have and be able to have it corroborated with other evidence and maybe yet another LDT.

If misty knows nothing, why did she tell a phone visitor that ‘it would hurt two people, one we care about and one not so much” (paraphrasing)

Sounds like she knows something about other suspects and fails a poly.when she is asked about herself and what she knows and Fas a poly. Weird stuff. For the innocent one.

Adams,no,lol i saw this post from Homespin!
remember? She always wished she could say more?

I wish I could say more specifics but that would not help Haleigh’s case. In time you will know more. You’ll just have to wait. I think my original comment allows you to see the direction of where things are going.

JB

Nancy Grace’s trial on the Duckett case is in July. Hate that I have to miss it as I will be taking basic math! LOL

A

OH CathyJo….No MOO Conjuring! I barely survived the last bovine bloggin’ noggin floggin not to mention I shoveled cow crap for a week!

yea Ann,and she didn’t want cameras around!
rofl ain’t that just fabulous!

moo returned on the other thread yesterday.

Did Hank and Lisa’s car REALLY get stolen? (And did Hank say to Lisa “Biotch, how cud yew lets my car get stole?!”) How did I miss that? LP prolly’ repo’d the dang thing! LMAO

Hank and Lisa got their car back.

Some guy they knew, was sitting in it while it was running, waiting on Lisa & Hank and decided to drive away in it. Hank reported it stolen but a few days later it was recovered.

Can’t you see her own case on her own show,Adams tell us how that would go? lol

JB yep!! The madness thread!!

NG would never do that. Give credit to someone that is putting her in her place, NEVER…. Might give Crystal Sheffield and idea……

NG, probably will be covered by the sister network, cnn.

B*A…are you sure it wasn’t the MAD COW thread? LMAO

JB OMG JB
They are desperate for money but I don’t think that vehicle has been released from the DA yet…….I thought you were going another way with that for a minute and then…..BAM! Funny!

stilllucy….sorry. 😳

So is MOO still doing the “insider info” thing or has she recovered from the bout of Mad Cow disease?

JB go look!

b*a…I’m too skeeered to go look! LMAO…I’m afraid I’ll have flashbacks! ROFLMAO….I just got the smell of cow patties out of my nose as it is! LOL

I remember MOO being here the other night but I don’t remember her being bad. Now that gal from the big hat state, yea…..BAD…..and the commissary guy….always bad….but not MOO that I remember.

Croslin Sr. said: “I think they’ll be found innocent, yeah, of not harming her.”

Translator – Throwing away her lifeless body
is not considered HARMING to a Croslin.

It’s also a misdemeanor charge

Gotta go all….be good guys….will try to check in over the weekend….watch out for those stampedes! They’re killers! MOOOOOOOOOO

Hank Sr. – “It’s like the whole world has condemned us, and we didn’t do nothing.”

It is time to put on your big boy panties, Hank. I know you can do it ol’ boy.

Later JB, be good!

moo answered Jan on the other thread

did she Adams?

I remember it tooooooooo well!

HUH? Lost here…….Twilight zone…..

Hank began receiving unemployment since his car accident and I think he is still collecting it. Says the guy drunk driver who hit him should be out of jail paying him for losses and damages he incurred. Hank blames the man’s girlfriend for allowing her boyfriend to drive her car without insurance. He told Misty he has to conserve money for Lisa’s fines and there’s no point looking for work until he goes to Court. Hank said he contacted his former employer but he won’t hire him although he worked hard for him and put in long hours.

No one is going to hire Hank because like us they know he has screws in his knee and needs surgery on his back. Whether this is true or not only his doctor knows. After all the shanangans I wont believe him 100% on anything he says it seems to run in the family. I wonder if there is a liar gene?? jmo

I bet hank sr.’S idea of hard work didn’t match up his former bosses expectations…just guessing of course.

And the un-insured motorist? I wonder how many times the croslins have driven without insurance…I’m sure it never happened, yeah, right.

Its only a problem when it happens to you.

If hank is on unemployment he would have to be seeking work certain minimum times a week right? I wonder if his search logs are up to date and can be verified?

If Hank worked up until his accident wouldnt he have a tax refund too? We never hear about his tax money why is that? We hear about Tommys and Timmys but Hank never says anything about his. jmo

Cathy, with this bunch anything is possible heck they may be related to Rusty. lol

The Croslin’s seem to get a burst of energy and renewed health on tax day. Can someone
explain this? They are so fit come April.
It’s mind boggling.

The father of Misty Croslin-Cummings and Hank “Tommy” Croslin Jr., spoke out Friday, proclaiming his daughter and son had nothing to do with harming missing Satsuma, Florida girl, HaLeigh Cummings.

Hank Croslin Sr. told News 4 Jax, “I know my daughter and son didn’t hurt HaLeigh… My heart goes out to HaLeigh’s parents, Ronald [Cummings] and all of them. I don’t know what happened that day. I still don’t know what happened.”

Hank probably owed his refund to the. IRS, they just kept it and sent him a bill for the difference he may have owed. Just guessing, of course.

Unless he claimed the minor misty, the ‘chosen innocent one’, he probably had very little coming back. Of course if lisa claimed her, then she or they had to get some chunk of change back, unless he or she owed it to the IRS. Any refund probably went to:

1. Cigs
2. Recreational material-(fill in blank)
3. Lawyer fee
4. Fines
5. Court costs
6. Burger king
7. The Sunglass Hut
8. Mobile home dweller tax for sewer service.
9. Etc…etc…etc…

IIRC, LP bought Hank the car so he could visit his children in jail and he rode with Lindsy to visit Tommy & Misty after his license expired. Not sure if he has to rewrite the exam. If you’re disabled and receiving unemployment insurance, you don’t have to be seeking work. Hank may go to jail so I don’t blame him for waiting until after his Court hearing to figure out what his next move will be.

You are right, if he’s hurt and he’s going to jail anyway, why make a move.

New Game:

How many croslins can they jail at the same time?

Notice that Hank. Sr didn’t say he was sure that they didn’t help get rid of Haleigh’s body. I think Hank knows more about this night, than he is letting on. Tommy’s and Misty’s statements to the police, may have clued him in that they knew more than they admmited to in the past.

LoL Tobias!

I’m surprised to hear Sticky Fingers Lisa Croslin plead guilty to stealing a woman’s purse in Wal-Mart. Hank told Misty her mother didn’t steal no dam purse and the surveillance cameras at Wal-Mart would vindicate her. Hank said the woman blamed Lisa because she’s a Croslin.

lol spy, I can see that…….they can’t get work cuz they’re Croslins……….lmao! dumbasses! i am sorry but i had to say that!

c and g didn’t like talking either,lol

Misty`s thinking level 112.2 abnormal

Her name is Abby, Abby Normal.

Imagination level = 16.51 Extreme!

Here’a a thought for Hank and Lisa. They could apply for work with the Ringling Bros. Circus I’m sure they’re ready to kick off their touring season. They’ll be paid ,free meals, place to stay in each city but would have to find their own drugs. Oh silly me they might have to WORK scooping elephant dung etc.

Have I missed any Bombshells?

Magic Man = Vegas, baby!!

locked, always.

VAN SUSTEREN: Misty, do you ever use that doo yourself, go in and out that door?

CROSLIN: I mean, once in awhile I will take the garbage out through the back door, or leave through the back door and take a vacuum and vacuum the car out. But that is the only time we use the back door.

VAN SUSTEREN: Misty, did anyone come over to the house that evening while Ronald was at work? Any friends come over?

CROSLIN: No. My older brother had come over with my nephews, and the AC guy.

VAN SUSTEREN: What time did they leave?

Why did she not say Gramma Sykes was there?
new article up too guys!

for all those that were wondering earlier ~ amanda ashley tomlinson is the mother of the 2 yr old child found in the vehicle at the time of the arrest of mr. imms & co. the link is:
http://www.jacksonville.com the article title, “putnam sheriff stands by arrested son” printed by the florida times-union.

as far as hank & lisa staying away, they could have also been warned by mc & tc’s attorneys (although it seems someone should have told them previously), about the risk involved in talking about the case with their incarcerated children. they seem to try and be very generic at times in their past conversations (but some interesting things have come out along the way)…but the law does not provide any immunity for parents in regards to the crimes of their children. the 5th amendment only provides that you may not testify against a spouse, or in the event that your own testimony would incriminate yourself. therefore, and i’ve seen this first-hand, a parent who LE suspects may be privvy to info, or that LE sees actual proof of the parent’s knowledge (such as a letter, a taped phone call, or visit) can actually be charged and will be forced to testify against them.

its just one of many thoughts-but might be interesting to consider. not that i truly believe these parents would tell the truth on the stand anyway….lol…i mean why break precedent now, right? lol imo

Here is some other examples. I don’t see that Josh’s bond was set lower then the anyone else’s for similar charges.

Four Arrested after Narcotics Investigation Reveals Meth Lab

East Palatka – Four (4) Putnam County residents were arrested on January 3, 2010, as a result of a narcotics investigation conducted by members of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office Drug/Vice Unit.

Investigators conducted a search warrant, and located a clandestine methamphetamine lab inside a residence located at 129 Elsie Drive, in East Palatka. Also located in the residence were manufactured methamphetamine, chemicals used to manufacture methamphetamine, and paraphernalia used for smoking methamphetamine. Investigators also determined that Williams had removed the power meter from the residence in an attempt to divert electricity.

The owner of the residence, 46 year-old Tony Lee Williams, Williams’ 16 year-old daughter, 45 year-old Ralph Michael Smith, 41 year-old Wendy Marx, and 33 year-old Michelle Gibson were at the residence at the time the search warrant was executed. The four (4) adults were arrested on the following charges:

Tony Lee Williams, DOB: 01/19/1963

* Manufacture of methamphetamine
* Possession of methamphetamine with intent to sell.
* Possession of chemicals used to manufacture a cont. substance.
* Possession of drug paraphernalia
* Maintaining a drug dwelling
* Theft of electrical services

His bond was set at $4,520.00

Ralph Michael Smith, DOB: 3/6/1964

* Possession of chemicals used to manufacture a controlled substance.
* Violation of probation
* Contempt of court

His bond was set at $5,008.00

Wendy Charlene Marx, DOB: 10/28/1968

* Possession of chemicals used to
* manufacture a controlled substance.

Her bond was set at $2,504.00

Michelle Gibson, DOB: 05/25/1976

* Possession of chemicals used to
* manufacture a controlled substance.
* Gibson was also arrested on an active arrest warrant for violation of probation.

She was booked into the Putnam County Jail without the benefit of a bond.

http://www.pcso.us/2010-1-4-a

Excellent post Jan. We all need to separate the difference of trying to help or enabling as parents. I thought I was helping turn my sons’ life around but I was only enabling him. I finally realized after 20 years it’s not my fault His Dad and I only tried to support him to get his life back on track. If anyone is going down this road seek help!!!!! Addicts have a way of putting their guilt on everyone else’s shoulders. They will lie and steal from you and act justified. My son was 40 years old before he did drugs and now he has the mind of a 10 year old. Lost a very good job and his family. Spends his time trying to out maneuver family and authorities. I pray that no one ever has to watch one of their children destroy their life and their childrens because of drugs. I pray all Meth labs will be destroyed. It’s a cheap high for addicts. Five years ago I knew nothing about drugs but I had to take a crash course to find out what I was dealing with. I see so much of this drug induced thinking in the Croslin family. My son is the only one in this family that chose to go down this road thank God. With the Croslins it seems to be a family plan. May God help them drugs seem to be a cross that some can’t bear.

I thought the syndrome haleigh had caused her growth to be altered. No?

Why would you need to have DCFS to conduct the way to punish your child if you weren’t out of control?

Some kids really meed a butt swat sometimes. But beating because you are mad is rons way.

I spy, I absolutely would not approve Ron or anyone else abusing a child.
But I have to ask where this came from??

Dr Glass needs to do her homework. Turner Syndrome can alter the shape of a face or head.
http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/turner-syndrome/DS01017.htm
Please study it yourself.
Haleigh’s hands have been reported that she accidentally turned the hot on and then stuck her hands in the water. It was minor damage. Where do you have info that Ron caused this??

jaba, where do you get that info?? There is no proof that Ron beat a child, ever. Why do you spread this stuff??

It has so disturbed me how many times bogus rumors are started based on no truth just to smear Ron. You can attack me if you want to but I would say the same thing if you had said this about Crystal.
Ron and Crystal have both done enough to talk about them but can’t we stay with the facts. Why just keep growing rumors and try to call them facts.
If these things are NOT true it is disrespectful to Haleigh and Jr to keep saying bad things have happened to them when it is not true.

I think Haleigh is absolutely beautiful. I am just saying that for a professional to say her face is altered from abuse and can’t be affected by Turner Syndrome is just flat bs.
I honestly believe that if the be could have been left out of this case it might very well be solved.

Seeing her bandaged hands in that video was so sad – does anyone know what happened? That image just haunts me.

Jan, I think that was very sweet of you. I do not think they had anything to do with Haleigh being gone. It is also not Hanks fault that he was in the wreck with the drunk driver that caused his mess that led to him losing his job.
May God bless you for your kindness.

I don’t hold it against you to talk to lisa and hank. No reason anyone should tread on your relationship. It may be very important and worthwhile to you.I hope that’s the case.

I do have a q’ though?

How long have you known them? And how sure are you that what you are being told is exactly how things are/were with them? It may all be true and I dont peg you for a fool by any means, but isn’t there a possibilty that what they have said may not be the way things are? Maybe not everything is embellished or maybe none of it is, I don’t know, just askin’

Jan, have you wondered what kind of person the JB poster is? She spends weekdays posting here, instead of actually doing what her employer hired her to do.

Hopefully, one of her co-workers turns her in for stealing from her employer.

A quick check over the past days posts show her posting all of the mornings, taking a break around noon, then returning and posting the afternoon away.

She must leave her employers’ workplace around five, as that is when she stops posting here.

JB spends her day posting here, instead of working for her employer.

JB: Stealing from your employer’s pocket is no different than what Lisa or Tom Croslin did, JB, except you haven’t been caught.

You’re worried about Leonard buying a car for Lisa and Hank, and Lindsy, but not concerned about your employer giving money to a person who spends her time blogging here?

well, *jaba* do you interview your own friends to this extent? have you investigated their backgrounds regularly to be sure THEY are telling you the absolute TRUTH about every single tiny fiber of their lives and beings before you “commit” yourself to a friendship with them? not trying to be a b***h, however, your questions above sound so accusatory. does anyone normally do this with their friends? stalk out their backgrounds to be sure they are telling you the truth? i bet alot of people don’t tell the full extent of the truth in every case, throughout their entire lives. by the time you’ve lived 40+ yrs. there may be certain things you are not so proud of, as a teen or maybe young adult, that you have learned from, put behind you, and moved on. would you think it fair to judge someone that you know & like now, because of a person they once were?~ imo ~ just seems an unfair ??? to ask.

Jason,

How many people on this board and others are ‘multi-tasking at work? Porbably a lot. 🙂

Or maybe folks are laid off, or vacationing or wealthy enough not to work, or retired?

If you know something I’m missing let me know.

Is anyone gonna read it?

@jason~ what, exactly does this have to do with the specific case(haleigh cummings) that is the subject of this page?????

BA I read it!

What do you think about it BA?

Tcookie,

The reason I asked how long you have known them was to give me more context of your relationship so I can try to understand your comments better.

I have no idea how long you’ve been friends. Did you know them before all this crap over a year ago? That helps me understand how you form your comments. If you have known them a short time, yes, I would, as I did above, question your ability to judge how they are. Not mean spiritedly, I just want to know.

I’m sure, like you, thinks no one is perfect and people can change, no question, but I can go only on what I see, and offer my opion and ask questions on this board.

No I don’t nitty gritty question my friends becasue they have shown me over many years what their character is even when they have made mistakes. I would be better versed to speak about them from experience. That’s what I was trying to learn from you. Other than words they spoke today, how can you help me understand and believe them. That’s all the response was about from me.

Jason,

It came out of left field to my eyes. I certainly understand your position better now. Thanks for expanding.

Hope, it’s all a mess and it has been since so many people inserted themselves in the mix. There are too many players to keep up with, but some of the old ones that are no longer “involved” have screwed it up with their hidden/selfish agendas. JMO

BA

You’re are right what a mess! I think people forget that this isn’t about “them” it is about Justice for Haleigh!

Jaba @ 12:36: All day on your employers money? If your employer hires you to work, is is ethical of you to instead post here?

tcookie,

I apologize for misdirecting the post. I’m glad my answers to Your post was received well.

You are right my post and thoughts were directed to Jan from her post. I understand better because I know its he but if she would care to answer, I’ll certainly read it.

I can see where jan would be emotionally attached to this and the folks invloved. I’m sure there are ups and downs to all of this plus trying to have a life has to be a little challenging at times.

Toughcookie,Judithan,To both of you .Im so sorry to hear about each of your children.Its really sad.Theres traps set for ours,an sometimes they are weak,an fall right into them.But it doesnt mean they are evil,or that they cant change.With help,love,an much praying.

Example There was a old drunk use to come to church every Sunday,for yrs,never said anything but came in loaded,an sat quitly.Some of the old self rightious busy bodies said,throw him out.But the Pastor who was truly a loving person,said nope,one day he will change.An he did ,He repented,an cleaned up real good.So we really have no right to say anything about what God has created, right,or wrong.W arnt their Judge.Now we do have laws of the land,all should abide by.But some just make mistakes,get caught up,an go to jail.Im not speaking of cold blooded murderers,or Men who harm/rape children.

I dont care what said we all love our own children,an sometimes just cant see whats right in from of us.Or we just keep hoping they will change on their own.Its no parents fault for loving their children.

When it gets to the point of LE getting involved.Only thing a parent can do is see that they get a fair trial.That the charges fit the crime.We as parents have to watch for Straight,verses none straight LE.

But for the ones that are straight up,its always good to sit down with them,an see if theres another plan,other than prison,that they may can help your child with..According to the crime/an offences.But if you know beyond a shadow of a doupt they are guilty.Then love them,pray for them,an let the time fit the crime.

We had one we went to a Judge an signed her into a rehad,(inhouse )she was grown but got strung out on pills,an didnt plan to get that way,her meds were dr perscribed.The Judge had her picked her up,said either go willing,or we will cuff you an roll you out.We told the Judge she may be a danger to her self,or others,an they jumped right on picking her up.

She clean today,living a decent life.I had a woman i knew ,not a friend but knew her in passing.I found out her son was stealing,got my son to invite him over,an prayed with him,read him what God says about paying back 7 times to the amount on every thing he stole.May pay back in health,in money,in some kind of loss,he would repay it.He started calling me,an hes stopped,now has a job doing great.

One i took in because his dad was on crack,an his mother never had anything to do with the boy.Shame isnt it.Hes getting his education,working.They wernt sending the boy to school,never any food in their house.I gave the man a choice,i told him he was grown,an could harm his self with drugs,but either i would call an report him,or he had to let me keep his son.I had known the boy about a yr,before taking him in.Hes now on his own doing good.

All we can do is love them ,show them what God says,an pray for them.Offer a listening ear,not a judgemental heart.I have found in my 53 yrs,that its works better than beating them down,or fussing at them.Because when we do that,we only get rebellious,or a puts that wall up,that we cant get through to them.An that doesnt help them,or us.Love is the key.

So i surly will keep both you an your children in prayer.aN EVERY DAY WE WAKE UP IS A NEW DAY,PAST,IS PAST,A PAGE TURNED IN OUR BOOK OF LIFE.No need to go back,always go forward.We all make mistakes,even in parenting.We have to get up when we fall,brush our selves off .An go another round.

The photo indicates HaLeigh’s hands were placed in scalding water. If HaLeigh fell onto her hands, more than likely she would have scraped one hand more than the other and would have only required a regular band aid. If she fell and broke a wrist or finger(s), she would have required a cast or a finger splint. HaLeigh wasn’t injured anywhere else on her body in this picture and both her hands were injured simultaneously. IMO, the manner in which both her hands are wrapped with clothe indicate they were burned.

@jaba 🙂 its all good…

@jan ~ thank you for your kind words and prayers. each day, and each child, are *blessings*

Could it be that she reached on top of the stove and burn her palms?

ISPY @ 1:08:

Her hands could have been wrapped for other reasons, such as for contact dermatitis. Where I live, it isn’t unusual for children to get poison Ivy/Oak on their hands.

Im not emotional attatched,i just from experence of the media,when our 2 yr old was beaten to death,i learned no to listen to all i hear,an read.But to ask my own questions from the persons.

As to my knowing the Well It through long months of phone conversations.An them telling me things that happened before they were reported.I grew to trust them,an didnt betray their trust,nor would i unless it had to do with Halieghs.He has sent things to me such as paper work to verify things.Im a pretty good Judge of People,because i have been there,an done that.I know that life style,an mine now.When you deal with the rougher society as i have for yrs,

Going to many prisons,being in Murder trials,an working with many drug addicts helping them to get clean,in my own home.You learn people.Like those who go to school,learning paper work,an studies.Its bull most of it.Unless you get down on the nitty gritty with many walks of life,many people you never know them.It is my calling.An i love it.Dr L Glass watched body language,

I got to the heart,thats what i try to learn about people what kind of heart they have.I have learned that many of those in trouble,an down on their luck.Are so much better people heart wise ,than the self rightious ,judgemental people today.Many shoot straight with someone they can trust.An i can say now Hank,an Lisa dont have any they really can trust to share with,that wont betray their privicy issues.

So call it how ever you wish.I have spent my whole life dealing with people like this.An im not fooled easly.I always ask for proof.An if God blesses me,i hope someday soon i can bless them,if its just taking a trip,an feeding someone who may be hungry.Have you ever been in a position where you didnt know where your next meal was comming from.This storm,in their life, will pass them one day,but what we have said about them,if wrong.If we dont repent of it,then we will suffer for our cruelness,From God hands.

I think they have been broken enought,an ridiculed enough.My take on things,never have been a money thing,or wanting to tell their privite stuff,just a woman offering a friendly hand of friendship.They werent the parents of Haliegh,nor did they have control of either child,that household,or what went on there.Hank,an Lisa admit their mistakes,an past wrongs.

They are Just the parents of two children in trouble.I pray Jesus always gives me a heart of compassion,an love for my fellow man/woman/child.Running these grieving parent in the ground ,may build you up a bit,but in the long run,like i said we all reap what we sow,an God says he will judge us for every idle work we speak.

He says hes come to set the captive free,release those from bondage.To heal the broken hearted.To just love your neighbor (people) as you love your own self,how would you feel in their position,walk a mile in their shows.Do unto other/as you would have them do unto you.

When i start getting Nasty about people,i go back an read James chapter 3. God reminds me all i need to know about how poisonus a tounges can be when wagging.An i have to repent.

@jan ~very wise words. so very sorry to hear about what happened to your 2 yr old…tragic, heartbreaking. i can only imagine how you made it through that. many prayers i’m sure. i so know what you mean re: the nitty gritty…i have lived with and through things most people cannot believe i survived. and its true, that once you’ve been through it, you have a much deeper sensitivity and awareness of what its about. and most people who do make their ways back out of those hardships, go on to help others through similar things as well. i always taught my children that no matter how little we had, we always had something to give to another who may be in more need than we, even if it was only our time (to help, to listen, to care). they have all 3 grown to be caring, compassionate people. thank you for sharing your outlook. its very positive. 🙂

I appreciate that post jan, that’s the kind of context that shows me a lot more than without it, to be totally obvious.:)

Having said that, and with respect it seems as if your words show emotional attachment to not only H and L but many other fortunate people.

As I said before, I see and comment on what is available for me to read and try to figure out what is truth, what is fiction, and why it happened, and so on, and so on. Curiosity is a strong motivator. Add that with what has to be the most difficult situations in life, the loss of a child, and in the cases at hand in Florida that are so high profile it draws me in on an emotional level. I don’t think that is bad at all.

You provide this board for us to discuss on and its appreciated.

With that discussion, on such an awful situation with so many dishonest people involved, hurtful things will be said. More obvious stuff, huh?

Sage advice from you on remembering the thoughts and feelings of others who have been, or are, down.

The croslins do have two children in trouble with the law and they are in trouble with the law but I can only excuse so much. Good thing is, I’m not the final judge of anyone’s life, no one on the planet is, but we operate in a framework of laws and a system of fairness that is better than anywhere in the world, even with its own mistakes along the way. A lot of people will help H and L get their kids a fair trial.

While we can offer an ear, compassion, prayer and help for H and L and their past and desire to move forward in a better way, I can’t, and I’m sure that don’t mean jacks@@t to them and I wouldn’t expect it to, absolve them for the environment they rasied their kids in. I believe it had a very negative effect on their outcomes. If there is pain and guilt they feel, I think that is normal. As long as it doesn’t paralyze them from going forward, and being better for it, then that would be great news.

Pain is sometimes referred as weakness leaving the body and mind. The stronger and more solid the foundation in which kids grow up, gives them such a better chance at a good life all the way around.

All this is imho.

jABS, tHAT IS jAN BUT NOT jAN BARRETT.

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I know that I posted this yesterday or the day before.. I ask Haleigh’s Grandmother Teresa Neves, what the problem was with Haleigh’s hands and why they were wrapped in guaze.. “She stated: That Haleigh had a Bacterial Disease on her hands that was literally eating the flesh on her hands, and they had to be treated and kept covered”. That it was not caused by a plant, it was not just blisters.. Not from any injury nor was it a result of the Turners Syndrome.