The PCSO has once again gone very quiet, and the fact that sheriff Jeff Hardy’s son is in jail on drug charges likely is not going to be helping matters. Of course one has to wonder about the bail amounts set. Misty Croslin has over a $million bond. The rest of the gang also face bonds that no sane person would get involved in. Even Leonard P seems to have skipped on the idea of bonding the Adams oops Croslin and Cummings family out. Jeff Hardy’s son has a simple and cheap $7000 bond.
The Adams family were not actually caught in the act of selling drugs, they were caught in the procurement phase. Oh and the drugs were being provided by the PCSO. Please do not get me wrong, the whole bunch deserve long jail sentences. Jeff Hardy’s 26 year old son was caught dealing Meth. That is not pretty. Meth is a killer. So how come Joshua Troy Imm only gets held on $7000 bond?
The charges against Joshua Troy Imm, include the sale of methamphetamine, possession of listed chemicals used to manufacture methamphetamine, maintaining a drug vehicle, possession of drug paraphernalia, and child neglect. Bond: $7,020.00
Misty Croslin scores a cool $mil, the big bosses son scores $7k.
If there is an explanation for this situation, I would love to hear it. Do not get me wrong, I think that Misty and the gang are in the right place, for the right reasons. But are we seeing a case of double standards?
Simon barrett
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You can sure bet there will be attorneys aching to get in on that one. If that doesn’t get stuff dropped from her case in court, well i will be surprised. It is a case of discrimination in my eyes. Misty isn’t high risk for fleeing is she? She doesn’t have tons of money. The only reason I can see is that the judge set it that high knowing her ‘celebrity status’ and that someone might actually be stupid enough to put up a lot of money to bail her out (ahem, cough, cough, LP)so he set it high enough that no one would even think about doing it. Thats my thoughts.
Just think, if Casey Anthony would of had a higher bail…..
Simon here is your explanation about the bonds. 2 things were different with the drug cases and I will explain.
1st – Imms’ arrest were probable cause arrest and the local bond schedule was used to apply to the charges. The Sheriff has no control over the bond schedule, which is set by the Circuit Court Judge. Each level of crime has a specific bond amount.
2nd – Imms was charged with selling drugs, but the charge was not a trafficking charge, which held a minimum mandatory sentence. Any drug dealer arrest on trafficking offences or offences that could have life in prison with out parole, would have NO bond by the schedule, until they say a judge at their 1st appearance. While he had several charges, none of them rose to that level. Again, the Sheriff has no control over the level of the crimes they were charged with; it is set by Florida Statute. Different jurisdictions have different bond amounts, again it is set by the judge, based on several different criteria.
Now the Croslin/Cummings drug arrests. They were all arrested on warrants issued by a judge. While they were arrested during a take down situation, they were all served with the warrants, which were issued by a judge from the St. John’s County court. There cases involved trafficking cases, and they were given there bond amounts based on the possibility of time they could serve based on their alleged crimes. Further, they were not given the NO bond status, because a judge already determined that there was probable cause to affect an arrest.
So basically apples to oranges. Each of the Croslin/Cummings clan could have gone to court for a bond reduction if they felt that the bonds were set to high by a JUDGE, NOT THE POLICE.
So not really a double standard here. Maybe the Croslin/Cummings clan had the door slammed on them alittle bit, but if you look at bond amounts, you will see that there are high bonds issued by judges (esp. st johns county) on other cases. NOTHING TO DO WITH SHERIFF HARDY. I personally think that Sheriff Hardy handled this situation as a true professional, with fore thought and a ethical demeanor.
Now I am no expert in the matter, but I bet you if you verify what I just said with your resident expert – COBRA, he can tell you exactly what I said is the fact. He knows about bond schedules and bond amounts.
LE coerced hank & lisa to cooperate. Its a tatic to isolate misty and slowly destroy her mind! LE wants misty DEAD! shes become an embarrassment to LE and a symbol of their inepitude and botched bungling of the haleigh investigation!
misty is innocent!
ComeOn: ThankYou, ThankYou, ThankYou…..I tried to explain all this earlier today. The legality or amounts of bonding issues are not set by the arresting powers (ie sheriff, police, etc).
Yep, she’s innocent of selling drugs to cops, multiple times. I didn’t hear her say anything about being forced to do it. So, guilty, not innocent.
As to the haleigh issue, she hasn’t been truthful and we have seen her changed her story on video tape. Oh, and she’s failed polys.
She knows what happened that night.
Amazing….thank you for sharing. A meth addict/dealer, in addiction to the other charges, and he has a 7K bond???????? Perhaps that gives me some insight into why the Croslins/Cummings think the PO-lice are out to get them….. And I am not supporting either of these families….nor the Hardy’s….. Serious charges and a slap on the wrist and minimal bond, sound familiar with the C/C previous criminal charges?? No wonder that county is so insanely screwed up.
Simply put……. how very wrong. But similar to what the C/C gang punishment incurred, prior to LE trying to find the truth for baby HaLeigh.
I always support LE, however this case with the Sheriff’s son…IMHO blatantly wrong, and I don’t buy into it is totally the judge’s decision……… Again IMHO……..
No one said the Sheriff set the bond amount!
Misty was all over the united states after the incident and who knows who was paying for it, or do we? She’s a flight risk.
Padilla did offer to bond misty out if she told the truth. She could have been free for awhile until she went back for the drug charge sentencing which is to come either way.
Her attorney knew she couldn’t tell LP anything because it would implicate her and/or tc, ron, or whoever else.
Misty also called gma hollers and told her who did it, so why not tell police, and then back it up with a ldt and help the case out. If she only helped cover up something, maybe they will sentence her to the same amount of time as the drug charges and run them concurrently.
There are some places that give special treatment to le’s family & it’s not right.I have never been in trouble,not even a speeding ticket.My family is very close but if I wanted to do something wrong I wouldn’t go to the state where my son is an asst. chief of police.Believe me, he will arrest you, related or not.He is known to judges,prosecutors,& lawyers as someone who will not lie to get someone convicted or to let someone go. I’m a little bit proud in case you can’t tell.lol I am praying that the sheriff knows who are responsible for this crime & arrest them.This beautiful baby deserves justice,both Haleigh & Caylee.
jaba said,in May 6th, 2010 at 8:51 pm Yep, she’s innocent of selling drugs to cops, multiple times. I didn’t hear her say anything about being forced to do it. So, guilty, not innocent.
As to the haleigh issue, she hasn’t been truthful and we have seen her changed her story on video tape. Oh, and she’s failed polys.
She knows what happened that night
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didn’t you read simon’s article above?
here let me quote a sentence.
“family were not actually caught in the act of selling drugs, they were caught in the procurement phase. Oh and the drugs were being provided by the PCSO.”
misty is INNOCENT!! til proven guilty, heard that saying before?
Hank & Lisa may finally be doing the right thing for their children by staying away from them. We should hope that this is all a big plan that will encourage Tommy & Misty to start facing reality and tell what they know about HaLeigh. With Lindsey filing for divorce, Tommy may be the 1st to crack and be honest since he has the most to lose.
Hoping the squeeze is on and the truth is near for HaLeigh.
Truth and fact really don’t matter to people I guess. It is alway a conspiracy.
OJ how is the dark room tonight. I guess this fuels the creative writers in you. Minnesota must be buzzing tonight. I bet you end up getting writer’s cramps….
Oh thank you Simon, you are the greatest!
common sense and failure of yet another judge in dealing out the hand of justice.
Why and what would be the reason for such a low bail on such horrific charges?
Do they want the Cummings and Croslin to be gifted with unfair, biases and prejudice treatment and, therefore, perhaps, get their cases simply dismissed because of this gross error in metering out fairness? Yes, a defense attorney is probably settling down for a night of filing briefs, and with good reason.
The manufacturers of an ongoing Meth Lab are caught and they get bail at less than $10,000! Shocking.
The Sheriff has asked that everyone treat his son and cohorts the same as they would anyone else.
Then why didn’t they? Why didn’t the juge set an appropriate bail in accordance with the guidelines set for such charges in accordance with the laws of the State of Florida?
Its not that they didn’t find the Meth Lab – they did and dismantled it. Therefore, there is ample evidence of its existence and its ongoing production.
Plus, another small child was placed in direct and immediate danger.
Satsuma has been put on the map because of a missing child, otherwise, no one outside Putnam County, would never have heard of Sheriff Hardy, much less his son, Joshua Troy Imms. Now they are household names and, perhaps, not even contained to within the United States.
However, it brings to attention the differences in justice, even from bail being set. It will be interesting to watch this case as it progresses through the court system.
Also it will be interesting, when disclosure is made, of past criminal charges that were brought against any of this group, consisting of Hood, Imm, Tomlinson and Smith. And, if charges were brought what sentences were imposed.
He states in his campaign for Sheriff that he was married for twenty years to wife, Susan, had a daughter, a son and daughter-in-law, and a two year old grandchild. Is the grandchild the precious tot placed in the middle of a Meth Lab, or made to travel around in vehicles carrying chemicals to make meth, dangerous material.
Maybe even Lady Justice is involved in the drug trade in Putnam County – it certainly seems so to those of us that are watching for afar!
It is any wonder why Ronald Cummings was out with such an extensive criminal record whereby most would be serving thirty years or more.
Of course, the ‘most’ people have no one of influence around them, no mother that works for a judge, no mother that works for a sheriff, or dispatch, or is on a personal first name basis with everyone in LE in Putnam and Flagar Counties.
My personal opinions only.
Ann
Ted,my brother is from Minnesota too OJ.
excuse me OJ,but LoL at ComeOn!it is funny tho we all pick at poor ole oj!
Read the whole thing. They set up a sting under the law and the innocent misty trafficked the drugs. Its all in the charge sheet, seen that before? 8 counts, I believe.
I’ll give OJ one thing,he sure is loyal!lol
If i ever get arrested i know who my first call should be! lol
Call it procurement, call it middle-man, call it innocent, no wait, their are no charges named that.
They were caught in the act.
So was Hope innocent too? She plead no contest. Still a finding of guilt. Wasn’t she in the same capers as misty and company? Yep.
He pays for it too!
By the way, 1 time misty and ron bought drugs from the police. That was the last case. All other cases they SOLD AND DELIVERED drugs to the undercover officer.
What a bunch of bull. The state of Florida put the bail so high because they wanted to try and get information on Haleigh. This is totaly wrong because the bond is surpose to be based only on the charges put forward and not on what they would like to charge them with. 1 million dollars. WOW that is a bail hey put on people charged with murder not bull drug trafficing charges. Besides that they set them up and continued to make drug deals with them so they could charge them (Misty)with with 8 counts. This is insane and I think the bail should be lowered to like $50,000. I am all for finding out what happened to Haleigh, but not by the means the police are trying to do it.
The Detectives set up both crimes, they decided how many buys they wanted to make and how severe the charges they wanted to get in both cases.
They decided to go easy on the Sheriff’s son unlike the croslin’s and cummings.
Sure they don’t set the bond but they set the stage for just what kind of charges and buys they wanted to do which decides what the bond is going to be.
I swear its funny,its like you can vision him sitting in a room and everyone comes through the door stampeding and slaps him as they walk by! rofl,thats funny……..but doesn’t it seem that way to you guys too?
and….when Misty was with Donna they didn’t procure nothing, they sold actual pills,many of them ,not provided by law enforcement
loyality may be too kind for OJ. I have another word for it. Good thing misty is 18! Low lit room with photos all around in the windy city of Minnesota..this is the stuff movies are made of..Sorry OJ, guilty………
Hmmmm….”sold and delivered drugs to police” now that doesn’t sound like procurement, or innocent. Maybe its just me.
Just because one says something over and over and over, doesn’t make it true. The facts speak for themselves.
Gary,meet Oj……..Oj meet Gary,lol
CathyJo at 9:14 LMAO LOL
He loves it tho 🙂
CathyJo63 said,in May 6th, 2010 at 9:07 pm Ted,my brother is from Minnesota too OJ.
excuse me OJ,but LoL at ComeOn!it is funny tho we all pick at poor ole oj!
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never been to minnesota..
Tommy said two months ago in that jailhouse tape that the Sheriff’s son was a bigger pill head then he was. Maybe that is what set the investigation up. LOL
LoL Chakra,thats stuck in my head now!
Like that old movie “airplane” when the guy flips out and everybody lines up to slap the sh$t out of him!
Come on,
What part of them selling to an undercover agent didn’t you understand?
What in your definition if this would not be trafficing in drugs?
Oh, perhaps the undercovers from the Sheriff’s office worded it a little differently so it might appear to be something lesser than what it actually was? Is that what your saying? This is all a technically?
Not only trafficing drugs, but carrying chemical used to make Meth.
Please – there is absolutely no comparison between prescription pills and operating a Meth Lab, selling meth, carrying chemicals used to make meth, possession of drug paraphernalia and, then, there is the child placed right in the middle of these chemicals!
They should have bail in accordance with guidelines in accordance with the laws of the State of Florida, period. And, if it turns out they have criminal records, bail should have been in higher amounts. Wouldn’t be surprised to hear some are on probation – didn’t quite finish all that community work they were assigned the last time! I don’t know, but as I said, it wouldn’t surprise me one little bit.
My opinions only
Ann
OH YEAH
1st croslin case was a on-going drug investigation. How do you know that this other case wasn’t a case where they received information and then did the take down. OH YEAH you don’t know, because you don’t have a clue….
Also, the Sheriff’s son has a total different name, so the arresting officers may not have known who he was initally. By the way, the subject who had the more serious charges had the higher bonds…If you had the first clue about the law, you could check the level of crimes he was charged wth. Mostly misdemeanor crimes with one – two felonys.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,lol sorry,i thought she meant u were from Minnesata!
Come ON said, in May 6th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Truth and fact really don’t matter to people I guess. It is alway a conspiracy.
OJ how is the dark room tonight. I guess this fuels the creative writers in you. Minnesota must be buzzing tonight. I bet you end up getting writer’s cramps….
Weights and amounts based on the drug schedule dicates the level of the crime. Please look at chapter 831 if Florida Statutes and see what I am talking about before you say things that you don’t know.
Padilla offered to bail misty out for the truth in finding haleigh. I bet hed still do it. Pretty much everyone, but one, thinks she knows what happened. She tells padilla, they charge the right people and she gets out and tries to plead down to something less than most of her adult life. She will do 20, I bet. That’s forever and a few days to a 17 years old.
LE was probably giaining intelligence on other dealers in the network as they invetigated misty. It took 8 times to get what they could in different circumstances. LE lured them in brilliantly, like they should have on any tip received about illegal activity. Snared a whole mess of ’em in that little deal and they will all pay for it.
I bet the sherrifs son pays too. It will be highlighted so heavily.
Sitting in jail with no hope… is the ONLY WAY these people will ever give it up. A baseball bat would do the trick faster, but it is against the law. Some people never give it up… even after 30+ years being sentenced guilty to murder. Let them rot, I say. It takes a big tube and a long time to kill a big hemorrhoid. Croslin and Cummings hemmies have grown to the size of award winning giant pumpkins. A big thank you goes out to Teresa, Hank Sr. & Lisa… you really get the blue ribbon!
it will be now Jaba! for sure!
Come On…… seriuously come on, you’ve got to be kidding!
OhYeah….(points to tip of nose)
LMAO…takin a few peeps out with them…LOL!
Hope was with them in jail Pinky,lol she got 15 yrs.
I am teasin ya!
I think the entity to question about this would be
THE PROSECUTOR’S OFFICE….
Sorry, nose pointing was about Tommy’s SHeriff Hardy’s son diatribe….
Come On
There were 4 people arrested for selling.
That is not your normal buy from a guy on the street corner. This was over a time period.
You are wrong that most of Imm’s charges were Misdemeanors, he got 5 charges and 3 are felonies.
893.149-1a DRUGS-POSSESS LISTED CHEMICAL WIT MANUFACTURE CNTRL SUBS F S $2,504.00
827.03-1c CRUELTY TOWARD CHILD URGE OTHER TO ACT RESULT PHYS MENTAL INJURY F T $1,004.00
893.13-1a1 DRUGS-SELL SELL METHAMPHETAMINE F S $2,504.00
of course it’s double standard but I don’t even care
brb daughter phone
Oh, golly, there are what 70,000 people in Putnam County!
These officers in a somewhat small Sheriff’s Office would not know everything there is to know about Sheriff Hardy?
You must be taking some of the stuff yourself if you expect any intelligent person to accept what you are trying to put out. LOL
You are silly, crazy, as Lindsy would say — only this time she might be right! (No, I know your not, but your not that stupid either!)
My personal opinions only,
Ann
There is no rational, reasonable evidence to support misty’s innocence in the drug matter, there just the mantra of ‘she is innocent’. She will have to be proved guilty in a court of law with the media watchdogging the trial. It will be fair, she will be conivted and she will be sentenced. However, no lawyer would put her up for a trial that had half a brain.
On Haleigh, she knows and has changed her story, and lied more than a few times. Its only a matter of time. What will the mantra be then? Police corruption.
Its all LE’s fault. None of the blame goes to the incarcerated and videotaped clan, no, couldn’t be them. There is nothing in their background that would suggest they are stand up citizens, nothing.
Guilty, imho.
I wouldn’t be so quick to thank Teresa for anything. I’m thinking she’s up to her ta-tas in this whole mess.
How come you guys always skip right over the point and go right into judging Misty. I don’t think she’s innocent necessarily, but her bond should not be any higher than Imm’s. I knew he would get special treatment, and if Hank is paying attention he will call Misty’s attorney right now, and get this straightened out. Don’t give me this crap about the Sheriff having nothing to do with the bond. TN was just working in dispatch and got RC off of all kinds of things.
Come On said:
Also, the Sheriff’s son has a total different name, so the arresting officers may not have known who he was initally.
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That is hard to believe since Tommy Croslin talked about him on a tape saying the Sheriff’s son was a pill head and they reviewed the tape before it was released. The whole department knew about him I bet.
It was a big thank you drenched in sarcasm, stilllucy! lol
Wow… look what the Sheriff’s son started!
its what you call the good ole boy system.if you know someone you are good to go.i do agree that the croslins deserve to be where they are but i dont think its fair for Mr. sheriff son to get a little slap on the wrist.this is your prime example of politics.
As far as Misty goes – she is 100% guilty of the drug charges. I watched the video. Case closed in the court of Pinky.
The bond is not out of line in mistys case.
The bond seems very low in the Imm case.
Doesn’t mean that mistys is out of whack beyond legal.
Could mean that Imm is getting of light. has nothing to do with misty.
Does have to do about fairness. If it were appled to apples with charges, then yes, why the big gap in bond amounts but its not.
Maybe the 26 year old owns property. Makes it more likley he’d stay than someone without property.
Misty has an attorney, they all do, why haven’t they gone for another bond hearing? Maybe they will now.
Thank you shockwave,
Justice is what we all expect with law enforcement and in a court of law.
I believe in being fair and expect those who enforce the law and implement justice to be equally fair to each one of us.
Yes, for sure, tonight there are defense attorneys busy writing briefs to be filed tomorrow morning.
This case may well have just given the Cummings and Croslins a ‘get out of jail free’ card.
There should never be a double standard – perhaps it is customary in places like Putnam County.
However, because of the Haleigh case, these little deals explode, as this did, into the national press and it harms the reputations of everyone involved – whether their actions be innocent or not.
My personal opinons,
Ann
Well the Sheriff’s son is in the same slammer as Ron, maybe they will become “bunkies” as Hope would say.
Gotcha Pinky!
Hey Simon, You have created a monster here!
The charges and these cases do not even come close in correlation. And I’m talking about the drug charges only.
Pinkyandduhbrain said,in May 6th, 2010 at 9:45 pm As far as Misty goes – she is 100% guilty of the drug charges. I watched the video. Case closed in the court of Pinky.
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if you were on the jury hopefully you would look at ALL the evidence and make an INFORMED decision instead of relying on the spoonfed pablum released by LE.
Can I have some sugar on my spoonfed pabllum?
“If the glove doesn’t fit, you must aquit” Johnny 1994
“When they got you on tape, you won’t escape” – Jaba 2010
—just ask simpson.
Then we’ll ask Misty.
Yeah your right everyone knew it was his son, and once again the sorry cops in that county didn’t do their job, and arrested him along with the other people, and gave them real low bonds because they are all corrupt in that county and misty and ronald, and hope are all framed and shouldn’t be in jail, and should be allowed to be out and continue with their wonderful lives, and oh I forgot the sorry cops should arrest misty for smoking and cussing along time ago, oh right, but she was only 17 so she couldn’t go to jail for that because the sorry cops caused misty and ronalds life to be bad and caused little Haleigh to go missing.
The only person more upset than Lady Justice tonight is Hope Sykes for having plead ‘Not Guilty’.
She will not be getting a ‘get out of jail’ free card.
imo
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Ann @9:49 I sincerely agree!!
Yes, bring on the evidence in a trial by jury, that will get her more time for sure. They’ll plea in the first day of trial after opening statements. No, they won’t, misty will plea like hope, like tommy and like ron. Bye bye to all!!! Hope you can live with yourselves. Karmam is a beyotch!
I can’t believe cops can sell drugs and the BUYERS are prosecuted. That’s backwards.
Hope pled No Contest.
They do it all the time on the tv show COPS. It seems to be working well for them!
Cops is a reality show. And the reality of cops selling dope to addicts is that it IS entrapment, IMO. 🙂
Tommy Croslin on tape in Feb:
See that damn sheriff, his son is worst than I am on them damn pills. The sheriff’s son, hes worst on those pills than I am.
Don’t you think Ronald Cummings and the Croslins are very familiar with the Sheriff’s son – Tommy already mentioned him on tape (not released???)
They are all in the same trade, the same industry, and probably have the same morals, values, and addictions – although Ronald does like those under age girls.
They are about the same age – 26 or so. They probably all went to school together.
My opinions only,
Ann
Tommy Croslin on tape in Feb:
See that damn sheriff, his son is worst than I am on them damn pills. The sheriff’s son, hes worst on those pills than I am.
Starts talking about it at the 4:30 minute mark.
http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29737525/tommy-croslin-4-2-9-10-d.htm
Hey folks, we are getting off subject here.
There is video of Tommy in the back of a vehicle with Ron during 1 of the drug transactions with the UnderCover. Someone had brought it up earlier that there was no tape of Tommy but, there is.
What’s up with Lindsey tonight? Anybody noticed anything yet tonight?
The sun has set, it’s time for creepy stuff to start.
Drug Trafficking is your answer. In prescription narcotics and they want to crack down and of course the main issue, Hardy’s son can’t help find Haleigh.
Never saw the Tommy tape!
Jaba,
Yes, maybe the 26 year old had property since afterall he had a Meth Lab and was the supplier to the distributors to sell.
He may well have put his Meth Lab up as collateral and they really didn’t dismantle it, just have it for sale and share in the profits.
I’m sorry if I sound terrible. It is just that I am so tired of two sets of justice, one for the wealthy and one for the poor.
The OJ Trial – hate to go there, but have to make one comment.
The reason the gloves didn’t fit was because they had been soaked in blood – both Nicole and Ron’s blood. When leather dries it shrinks.
However, the prosecution team weren’t the sharpest lawyers in the room, and Cochran, who was, easily put that one over on them.
But, was that justice? I don’t think so. I don’t think the fact that a soaked leather glove would automatically shrink is no reason for justice not to have been done for Nicole and Ronald Goldman.
My opinions only,
Ann
I never saw the Tommy tape either and I think he was with Misty on that deal not Ron according to the arrest warrant.
I just remember seeing his ears in the back seat. Couldn’t miss them.
Lili, I totally agree with you!!!
Also, I was reviewing the videos from way back and came across the video where it was a 911 recording of Amber’s mom or grandma saying Ron and misty and a skinny black man were at the door, beating on it, after they peeled through the yard, demanding his son. She wouldn’t answer and they sent cops out. What ever happened of this and how can they keep bullying the town with no recourse and ron never is forced to face consequences for his charges, they just let him go – no wonder Misty and the girls fear him so.
He can get away with murder….
I really hope he doesn’t – if he tries. (that didn’t click for me until I typed it out, I bet they all think if he did do it, that they know there is NO ONE SAFE TO TELL!)
Good evening everyone . I was hoping that someone could explain the divorce papers filed by Lindsey Croslin. Is there a known reason for this? Is she still in contact with Tommy . Spent a fair amount of time this afternoon trying to get some clarity on this filing. Is it for finacial gain or has she realized that there isn’t a healthy future with Tom and his dysfunctional clan? I also feel that LE is at the cross road of understanding the truth and will make murder charges. Part of me suspects that the truth is as murky as that river they searched. Now I am more confused than prior to the river search and the Croslin assistance.
Crystal Croslin was charged with battery toward Amber’s mom – was that during the same time frame?
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Its not entrapment, they have the common sense not to sell or do drugs, then they wouldnt be in that situation at all. They lack that common sense that decent people have(like me)and they act like hoodlums, i dont care about the drug charges or who gets what bond, all i know is that they will do alot of time and they will never tell the truth while behind bars, ever.
Not sure I understand the difference between trafficking drugs and selling drugs. Can anyone explain? Seems like a matter of semantics.
heres an interesting article by a law firm, posted by heart at sc..thanks heart..
Posted On: March 6, 2010 by Shorstein & Lasnetski
Much Lower Threshold for Trafficking in Pills Crime
When people think of the crime of trafficking in illegal drugs and drug traffickers, they think of people moving large amounts of illegal drugs in and out of Florida. The people charged with drug trafficking charges in Florida are alleged to be major drug dealers because it is supposed to take a large quantity of illegal drugs to reach the level of trafficking. The crime of trafficking in illegal drugs such as cocaine and methamphetamine requires a large amount of drugs because the penalties associated with those crimes are very severe. Otherwise, for smaller quantities of illegal drugs consistent with someone who just uses them should come with more minor penalties.
For marijuana and cocaine in Florida, this is often the case. A person has to be in possession of more than 25 pounds of cannabis (marijuana) to be charged with trafficking in marijuana. It is difficult for someone to argue that more than 25 pounds of marijuana is for personal use. A person has to have 28 grams or more of cocaine to be charged with trafficking in cocaine. 28 grams does not actually appear to be a large quantity of anything, but it is certainly more than what one would consider a personal use amount.
However, for illegal pills that are obtained without the appropriate doctor’s prescription, a person can have very few pills and be charged with the serious crime of trafficking. It only requires possession of 4 grams or more of pills such as Vicodin, Percocet, Oxycodone, Oxycontin and other similar pills to be charged with trafficking. While those pills actually have just a very small amount of the actual drug in them (most of those pills are comprised of other substances), it is the weight of the entire pill, not just the portion of the actual drug in the pill, that is relevant to the trafficking quantity determination. Four grams of illegal pills are not very much. If a person has a few pills without a prescription, he/she could be subject to a trafficking charge that comes with a minimum mandatory prison sentence of 3 years.
We think this part of the law is unreasonable
However, there is no entrapment where a person is ready and willing to break the law and the Government agents merely provide what appears to be a favorable opportunity for the person to commit the crime. For example, it is not entrapment for a Government agent to pretend to be someone else and to offer, either directly or through an informer or other decoy, to engage in an unlawful transaction with the person. So, a person would not be a victim of entrapment if the person was ready, willing and able to commit the crime charged in the indictment whenever opportunity was afforded, and that Government officers or their agents did no more than offer an opportunity.
http://lectlaw2.securesites.net/def/e024.htm
They do it for a living. Cummings/Croslin = toast.
I dont think with everything going on in SatSuma with this case that LE would screw up on anything at all, there’s a big difference with what the sheriffs son waas charged with and with the charges handed down to the Cummings and the Croslins, and if anyone thinks the sheriffs son got special treatment thats about crazy, Goodness if it was all left up to the sheriff then why didnt he just tell his son they were coming and to not be in the middle of it. Get real, one has nothing to do with the other..imo
Ann who is Crystal Croslin? ty
Maybe the big drug companies fear their trade will be impacted. Pharmaceutical sales people are revered in doctors offices. It’s as if a red carpet is laid down when they enter. I never understood this revelry.
OJ Glove,
Thanks, great article.
Did they mention specifically what Joshua Imms was charged with, sale of methamphetamine, possession of listed chemicals used to manufacture meth, maintaining a drug vehicle, drug paraphernalia and child neglect – these are three felonies, two in the first and one in the third, and two misdeamors in the third or second, don’t remember?
Bail/bond is set in accordance with the bond schedule implemented by the State of Florida in accordance with the charge and the degree.
They indicated LE had dismantled the Meth Lab.
However, surprisingly, we don’t see a charge for maintaining a facility for the purposes of manufacturing methamphetamine.
Perhaps these charges will come.
The public will be watching as to how the Sheriff’s Department will handle the Meth Lab since they stated they had dismantled it, proof of its existence.
Why no charges were made is anyone’s guess – but not a difficult guess.
My personal opinions,
Ann
Ann
So cynical…love it, lol.
Drugs are not a bad thing, but like with guns, people make them a bad things by not obeying the law and thats sad for the people who really need them for real pain and not to get high.
and who is nay nay? never heard of her but she was mentioned in another blog.
catylkoo, it seems you are not aware of the seriousness of substance addiction. It has no connection to common sense.
http://www.examiner.com/x-7403-Tampa-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d9-Ronald-Cummings-father-of-Haleigh-Cummings-speaks-about-Misty-Croslin-and-lie-detector-tests-video
Guys,this video I had never seen but remember when Misty told the LD guy that she saw the back door open then ran to the bedroom to call ronald and didn’t notice Haleigh was gone until then…….well in this one she said she noticed the door open and then went to look everywhere for her………see what yall think..just weird how she acts,i forget the time mark but its not that long,just watch when the woman asks misty ??’s
I think Sheriff Hardy needs to address this immediately. This hurts the investigation, with just the mere speculation of police bias in dealing with a son manufacturing meth (which to me is more potent than prescription drugs). Let`s see if the Sheriff`s son`s phone calls and visits are released to the media and broadcast to the viewing audience. Oh right..his bond was so low that I am sure it was made and he gained his freedom. Something stinks in Putnam County, but I am sure its politics as usual. It should be justice for all, not a select few!
Ann,also OJ’s dr. said he injected OJ’s hand with some kind of fluid so it wouldn’t fit,that came out after he went to jail this time,just sayin!
Ann: Which Crystal was in the fight with Amber’s mom?
Basically, what good does it do to lock up addicts? Why not get them help?
As far as the bonds, I think there was an unfairness there. I think it had to do with Misty’s ‘celebrity status’ and the fact that there are people who would bail her out quickly if they could (LP). The sherrif’s son though, probably no one has that kind of money (7,500) to spend to bail him out. He will sit in there too. Then again, maybe the Sherrif’s son said that he would provide info on Ron and the drugs if he could get out? Who knows what deals he made.
Right Jen,get the dealers first! the users have to have a dealer right? imo
Drugs are not bad……….Are you on them?? sheeeeesh,lol sorry butta wheeeeewwwwwwww
Nope, he’s still there. I just checked the web site. Didn’t get bonded out yet.
Crystal, Timmy’s wife. She was charged with battery – domestic abuse – something like that, saw that yesterday when I was trying to find Timmy’s (which I couldn’t find as my data would only go back to 2008, I think).
Lindsy was also charged – she must have loved that – over that crazy dog barking and disturbing the peace. (Yes, Tommy was also charged with something to do with the dog 🙂
imo
Ann
why do we never hear rons sister crystal,she did one interview on greta and fell off the planet!
If all drugs were legal…just saying…but thats a whole ‘nuther topic for sure.
Matter of fact, they are all still there. None of them posted bond yet. Probably waiting to see a judge tomorrow. Bond may be reduced at initial hearing.
Cathy,
Think her hairdresser just couldn’t keep up!
Ann
I know here in tn the law to my understanding is one pill is one felony..10 pills 10 felonies…if they are not prescribed to you!
Someone will leak something soon from the jail
roflmsao!Ann…..omg disaster!!! hmmmm that may be why she disappeared,ashamed!
I mean i am sorry,my hair aint much..well a rats nest but i swear hers looked like corn husks!
Ann, I thought Timmy’s wife was named Chelsia, she was on Nancy Grace..
Timmy’s wife is, Chelsea.
I’ve thought the same about Ron’s sister. His sister, Crystal, was suppose to be the designated care taker of HaLeigh and Jr while Ron was at work. That was what Ron had told the Court at his custody hearings. Didn’t quite work out that way, did it? Maybe she isn’t it to this lifestyle. She sure has stayed out of it completely, you are right about that.
Not all drugs are bad. That is why they license them and you get a subscription. That`s what Tommy said. lol
You think blood pressure medication should be outlawed?
rofl,saw his ears in the backseat! LMAO!
I bet lindsey hates it cuz he’s in jail cause no tv reception!
i know all drugs aint but to be honest if ya needem,i dont consider them drugs….its my own little world i guess but i don’t!
medication/nice
drugs/bad
Stand corrected – sorry. Crystal was the one with the ‘do’, and Chelsa is Timmy’s wife.
A
You are comical……CathyJo
Tommy needs a “prescription” for a fishing magazine……salt water. Like he’s going fishing soon. Or needing a prescription……
Gotta Crash Kids
Have Fun
Be Safe
ron’s ex is name crystal,
and his sister is name crystal,
and doesn’t misty have a sister name crystal?
maybe I have them confused..
night still lucy!
Subscription…now that’s funny. And no TV reception, that’s funny too.
It’s Chelsia who is Timmy’s wife, not Crystal.
Why was Chelsia involved with domestic abuse on Ron’s Ex Amber’s mother? I don’t get that one? What was that about? Was she taking up for Misty or something?
Yes, I remember that also – the designated caregiver while Ronald was at work.
He really was prepared for that Hearing wasn’t he!
At this point in time, one can see the hand of Theresa in control of all that.
Then, the Perry Mason moment, when the criminal report arrived on Crystal (Sheffield) and given to the Judge. Can’t unring the bell, it was admissible but he saw it!
Ron and Theresa are probably thinking tonight if they weren’t connected to the Croslins, Ron would have been long gone from jail on a low bail himself.
Wonder if the others are staying the night? Could they make bail without seeing the Judge?
imo
Ann
Just like simpson. He got away with a biggie , but, finally karma came around and bit his “glove” and now he may pass on in prison, like he should have for the nicole/ron killings.
Jmho, of course.
Most criminals ignore the fact that You never get away for good. At least 99% don’t.
No matter who likes or dislikes sentencing guidelines, they are what they are. If one is interested in changing those laws, the state legislature would be a good first step. I’m sure they’ve heard it all before and they have settled on an option law breakers, not good citizens, not even marginal ones, have to worry, just the criminals. I bet the criminal lobby effort is woefully underfunded to make much of an issue out of it at.:)
Sorry wasn’t admissible.
A
Just wanted to tell you, thanks for all the info. On this freaky case. I’m ashamed of myself for being addicted to the happenings of this sad excuse for humans, but at the same time I keep on following it, as all I really want to know, is what happened to that poor little girl and I don’t think we ever will know the full story. Anyway you’re doing a terrific job on this.
the link i posted guys,pause it at exactly 2.36…..freaky looking!
I didn’t want to pick on him but, did Tommy say Reservation instead of Revelation on the audios?
OJ – Misty has a sister?
Please can someone explain my questions about Lindsey’s redone for filing for divorce? Does she still visit him? Can’t sleep until I figure out why the filing of divorce papers. Thanks all you blogger sluths out there
ann said, in May 6th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Yes, I remember that also – the designated caregiver while Ronald was at work.
He really was prepared for that Hearing wasn’t he!
At this point in time, one can see the hand of Theresa in control of all that.
Then, the Perry Mason moment, when the criminal report arrived on Crystal (Sheffield) and given to the Judge. Can’t unring the bell, it was admissible but he saw it!
What? I am lost,lol
The glove expose was so dumb, so dumb, but those jurors wanted to send a message about corrupt cops and past transgressions of lapd. They knew oj did it. He’s as much said so in that “almost” book he was going to sell then taken by the Goldmans for the civil judgement.
Its the same thing as saying misty is innocent because of the cops. It doesn’t take away from what real involvment is.
A florida jury, if and when she is charged, won’t try to send that same message. Although, there are so many juicy tidbits in this case, and sidebar issues, that some johhny cochran type lawyer( cochran was pure greatness with respect to how he did his work, no question) comes in and could swing this thing up so high it would rival the juices trial with coverage and gossip. My bet none of them go to trial though, either plead out, or make a deal for what they know that helps solve the case and serve a ton of time anyway.
rofl@Adams,lol I dunno but it fits!
OJ Glove,
Please – no more Crystals tonight – can’t take another one and you think your mixed up!
Yesterday when Timmy’s name came up and we were wondering if he had a criminal background — well, it was then that I looked up Croslin% in the Putnam County Dockets and came across this domestic abuse – something along those lines and it was on Amber’s mother (Brook I believe was her name).
Now that it has come up tonight, think I better look that back up tomorrow and be sure of what those charges were.
imo
A
I am really not aware of anything to do with drug or alchol addiction and i am glad of that and proud but i do know it is not a crutch for someone to use as an excuse.
Bio, no one knows the real reason… we are all just guessing at this. Most i think believe that she did it cause of the failed LDT. Some say cause of financial gain. Me, well I say I don’t know!
jaba: have you heard of “and JUSTICE for all”?
its in the pledge of alligence..but its obvious you want to hang the accused without a trial.
‘Innocent til proven guilty’ have you heard of that? probably not.
they are so easy to see thru when they talk to one another,its why i love the vids and audio…..I thought i was a nut? Nahhhhh got some catching up to do,not fish……language,lol
why in the hello was misty and tn on a dang paddleboat? on tv?
I think you guys are talking about the “Bitch I got your man and I will have your baby too, incident”.
I am proud you arent too Caly,honest! I just saw you say,drugs aren’t bad and my 1st instinct was to say that after i got my jawl off the floor,meant no disrespect…..honest!
bio-haz
Divorce filed on 4/28. She was allegedly devastated to learn he failed a poly and
had been lying to her. Don`t know anything
about for financial gain. I suspect she is
saving some money by no longer funding his
jail account. So far, all stories point to
her getting on with her own life – bye bye
Tommy.
I know they’re bad,Been there,done that,bought the t-shirt,mug and the ashtray!
Bio,Honestly i have no idea! could be one or all.lol ya know!
Cathy, I’ve got a question for ya! Why did Misty look so much healthier/happier before she met Ronnie?
The deconstructed meth lab was at Joshua Imm’s 24 X 40 MH at 201 County Rd 309, Satsuma – 3 1/2 miles from the MH on 202 Green Lane.
who is nay nay ? (god it hurts my head to even say that name)
wow Pinky,not that i blame her but what a rude awakening,all this,and u can tell he’s possessive!
omg and can’t do nothing whatsoever…..all his worst fears are coming true i’d say!
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in May 7th, 2010 at 12:05 am I think you guys are talking about the “Bitch I got your man and I will have your baby too, incident”.
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was that ever proven?
any screenshot of the actual myspace post?
and not a photoshop.
My guess would be D-R-U-G-S!
Lindsy apparently filed for divorce.
To the best of my knowledge no one is sure why, details have not come out.
The tapes to date that we have heard do not indicate anything about divorce.
The last tape was assumed to have been made about March 15th before she went to visit T & C.
Some suspect she may have learned more from them than she already knew regarding Tommy; others think perhaps she would receive more money by being a single mother of three; also, she was going to the gym and getting herself in shape — so, of course, there is speculation as to a ‘new man’ on the horizon — who knows.
Think it was end of last week when she filed.
Sorry, but that is about all I know. We are anxiously waiting, as you are, for tapes that perhaps give a clue as to what her mindset is at this point.
imo
Ann
The Addams family was rather classy; perhaps The Snopes Family would be a better choice if you’ve read Faulkner…. All in all, the whole story is sad and depressing. What chance did that little girl have, being born into ignorance and narcissism and depravity? I’m sure Misty and Misty and Misty and NayNay and Crystal and Crystal were all cute, sweet little girls one time too…but never had much opportunity to evolve into much more than what they came from.
I started using because i thought they made me happy,and they did for a short time but they just numb you is all later on but you’re addicted bad by that time and you get more and more depressed because of the guilt you feel!
OJ… don’t know if it was… but, I’m willing to believe it did happen. You can see it in her face when she thanks Amber. There is more to Misty!!
Know it well. And in case you weren’t aware, I’m probably not going to be on that jury, nor am I going to stop her from getting a fair trial.
I’m offering up opinion, like all others. I say guilty, some say innocent. That’s why we have the legal system.
Still waiting on a better answer to misty failing multiple ldt’s, if there are any to be put forward.
Good article Simon, anyone with half a brain and a smidgen of experience/knowledge of the legal system knows this is bullshit
And justice for all, haleigh included, right?
@cathyjoe63
i should say medicine is not bad for you, i guess i used the word drugs in a wrong way! lol sorry.
I wonder if Timmy is the only one trying to pay for Misty’s and Tommy’s phone calls and their canteen snacks. They will be miserable without those phone calls and snacks.
I had bad headaches Adams and one day my dr. gave me these pills and I thought,omg this is how i wanna feel! took maybe one a day for awhile then 2,3 then 10-2- a day and was numb is the only word i can think of! but i felt guiltier and covered that guilt with another….bam!
10-20!
Jason,
Are you kidding — three and a half miles from the MH — wow!
Too close for comfort – probably the supplier one could think.
Round and round we go —
imo
Ann
OJ… when this is all said and done, you may be rather surprised at what “activities” your little Minx got up to! Just saying
no Caly,My point was that i use it wrong,you were correct….why i said my own little world!lol
Justice for HaLeigh is most important, they need to find her, figure out what crime was committed, and release those not responsible imo
lol Karon,I can imagine,Tommy said he sits and stares at his snax and eats them,lol
don’t drink the kool-aid BA..
shes LE’s fallguy..but they didn’t even get that right.
I dont really know anything about drug dealing or the courts so i shouldnt be commenting on this blog at all,
i just want justice for haleigh and this all gets me sad.
I sure wish either way we could get some news!
Wonder how close the meth lab was to Tommys?
OJ… I don’t drink Kool-aid, it’s on my list of ongoing hates @ my blog.
OJ… I don’t drink Kool-aid, it’s on my ongoing list of hates @ my blog.
JMO Tommy may have liked more than pills, most pill heads I know of gain weight, and Tommy lost a pant load. JME/JMO
@cathyjo63
oh..lol i’m tired. sorry.
wow… I photo-shopped that 2nd post… hee hee
We all do Caly,why shouldn’t you be here? if i didn’t have these guys helping i prolly wouldn’t be,lol too smart for me,lol
They could easily have taken Haleigh for non-payment of drug debt.
Guess this is the first time I am feeling sorry for Ronald. Realize that he put his children at risk by his own behavior, still, it is heartbreaking if this is the case.
Drug dealers are ruthless and heartless it is true.
He kept saying ‘they’, ‘them’, and they took her like a bike, a piece of property. He was in grief mode as if he knew she was gone, which always made me think he had something to do with it.
Too high connections for him to go after them but he did tell them, his way, that he was going to kill them some day.
This is really something – wonder if they were too hasty in dismantling that meth lab and perhaps destroying evidence – or, is that why they did it immediately?
Would this property be close to the St. Johns River?
I actually feel sick – it is all so horrible.
imo
Ann
If misty does come clean or evidence is found that finds her culpable, I bet we see another disappearing act.
Ann,
A 12/19/2010 retail theft for Johanna L Smith:
UCN: 542010MM000437XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-02-02 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SMITH, JOHANNA L
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2010-02-02 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PDP/ 12-19-2010
2010-02-02 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2010-02-02 1 RETAIL THEFT/ WALMART
2010-03-18 2 INFORMATION – RETAIL THEFT
2010-03-19 3 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (04-15-2010) CERT MAIL
2010-03-30 4 NOTICE RETURNED EXECUTED
2010-04-15 5 ARR MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, WAIVING RIGHT TO COUNSEL
2010-04-15 5 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY – PRE-TRIAL SET 06/02/2010
2010-04-15 5 FOR DPA @ 1:30PM
2010-04-15 6 WAIVER OF COUNSEL
2010-04-15 7 PRE-TRIAL ORDER (06/02/2010)@1:30 PM DPA
Jaba… huh?
curious,I weighed 87 lbs! i never ate! now i am around 115!
I wish for news also…we get nothing for a while then something maybe important… then nothing again, frustrating.
people who abuse pills lose cuz when you eat you lose your buzz!
most people anyway! Who knows if tommy didn’t he might way 300? ya know……seriously!
amen Caly!!! frustrating but still we are here for Haleigh!
PCSO battery complaint against an Amanda Tomlinson:
UCN: 542008MM003677XXAXMX
File Date: 2008-09-12 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:
Defendant
TOMLINSON, AMANDA
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2008-09-12 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO/ TIMPE 08-30-08
2008-09-12 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2008-09-12 1 BATTERY/ DEBORAH BAINBRIDGE
2008-10-15 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO ALL CTS
Hey guys! I posted a lengthy post about weights of pills per sentencing guidelines as current and proposed guideline adjustments.
Maybe it will show up later..LOL
CathyJo63 said,in May 7th, 2010 at 12:32 am curious,I weighed 87 lbs! i never ate! now i am around 115!
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perfect!
Calyk, NayNay is the gal in jail. She was hanging out with Misty. She was also friends with Ron’s Ex Amber. She is the one that wrote the letter from jail saying that she took Misty to a party that night and set her up with White Boy Greg for sex. She also said that Haleigh got into some drugs and od’d and that someone took haleigh and dumped her in the river to get rid of evidence.
Funny thing is though, she knows darn well her letter would be intercepted by cops, so why would she write all of that? Who was she trying to burn? Who was she trying to mislead? Who was she trying to protect?
Ann,it is sad!also i don’t want it to be true for Haleighs sake! but somethings just not right! all these ppl involved but no one knows anything? I dunno!
Thats why i came on here , everybody seems to know more than i do about this case and i want to know also. I just shouldnt comment on things i dont know anything about…lol
Jaba, I bet we do too.
Caly… comment all you want!
yes, comment all you want. That’s how we find things out.
jenM
oh, thanks for the reply, i could of just googled it i guess…lol
she prob isnt to be trusted either just like the rest of these people.
Jason,
Thanks for all the information – don’t like the battery charge, the retail stuff is not so bad, at least nothing physical.
Now for the men – willing to bet your Hood has a long record – and he is the oldest.
You probably know the man across the street from the meth lab is a grandfather of Joshua Imms. He came out when the press were there, he said he was the grandfather of Imms and didn’t know anything. He wouldn’t give his name.
A neighbor next door was shocked at the developments.
Waiting on the criminal records, if any, for the men.
imo
Ann
Even though I think Teresa (Ron’s mom) is probably a nice person, she seems to be the most naive person ever. She seems lost in a cloud or something and just keeps focusing on God bringing Haleigh home. I think she has on blinders when it comes to Ron and he has been good at manipulating her into thinking he is a certain way. Maybe on the surface he was trying to appear straight and good. Or maybe he really was doing what he was supposed to or at least was trying. So, I can tell you that the drug video’s really surprised me. That is why I think maybe he was in on it with LE to get Misty and Tommy caught. Maybe Donna was part of the game too? We just don’t know.
love you calykoo…..lol
I’m not too smart about this case, all my info comes from NG, i guess that will change now!
Just thought of this….
Maybe Ron married Misty, in case he went to jail,…he may of been thinking that Jr would stay with Misty and his momma, instead of going back to skanky ho Crystal. Or he did it to make Misty happy in exchange for Misty keeping her mouth shut?
By the way, where is her wedding ring? You know the one she was flashing to the cameras? Is it in lock up, or did she hock it?
That bugs me the most about ron, why he married her, it is likely he wanted to stick close to her, but still something i wouldnt have done in that situation. Strange.
The more I look at photos of R & C and HaLeigh as a baby, I think they were trying to get back together. JMO
calykoo69;
Jump right in…We love new commers. You give us a chance to brush up on our facts…:) (They change often with this case)
Misty also mentioned to the cops something about putting a ‘fake rose’ on the dirt out in the woods that night. She didn’t know if it was real or if she dreamed it. (side effects of drugs…loss of connection with reality)
If that was true, why would she incriminate herself? Another reason I don’t think she remembers what happened.
She told LE that Tommy used to set the back doors of MH’s open with a brick and that was his M.O. when committing burglaries. Why would she tell that on Tommy? She also said him and Joe were there that night. Why would she offer that up to LE…this was in the beginning.
Why would she insist on LDT’s and ask to be hypnotized. Guilty people DONT do that!
The part I agree with OJ about is that LE has completely bungled this case from the beginning. The drug bust was a lame attempt at finding out something on Haleigh (and still is) in my opinion.
Yes, better a skany real live ho like Misty then Jr’s own mother….wow.
Ron knows how to pick em!
Cops: “Psstt….pssttt Misty…tell us something and we’ll go easy on you.”
Misty: I don’t know nuttin….
COps: “Pppsstt…Hey Tommy…tell us something about Haleigh and we’ll go easy on you..”
TOmmy: “OK….there’s this river you need to search….”
Sounds like they know nuttin….7 days…
Part of the problem with Ron is he picks them before the blossoms have formed. The waiting is the hardest part… kinda like pouring Heinz ketchup.
You’re the first one I heard that about Cathy, most I know get fat and lazy.
Pinky: LOL! He knew she was looking for a surrogate Daddy all along and couldn’t wait to oblige.
SOmething that has been bothering me…turning over and over in my mind….
I have NEVER heard a male, young or old, refer to woman cheating on him as a F*ck and a half, ala ROnald Cummings to Cobra….
I’m not saying he couldn’t or shouldn’t forgive her, just that the terminology used is so crass and unemotional on his part. Am I wrong?
Ann @ 12:48:
Yes, I saw the news video where the reporter went across the lawn to Joshua’s grandparents.
Joshua’s MH is at 201, and the grandparents house is on the same side of the road, so it would be an odd number:
Bonds own 199, the closest odd number to Joshua’s 201 on PC property records site.
Others nearby are all even, which should be on the other side of the road from 201, but it’s Putnam County, so here’s a few of the even numbers:
198 is Squires (Thomas & Kathy), 200 is Burgess, 202 is Harrell, and 204 is Burgess.
There’s another property owned by a Squire (Bruce H) on 190 County Rd 309.
IIRC, Annette or Teresa were once married to a man with the surname Squire.
I have seem some shows(real crime cases) that the guilty insisted on a lie test maybe it buys them time or sounds good for them to say it at the monment or they think they can beat it. i dont know.
HollyG, do you know where the vid of Hank at the gas station is at?
Ann @ 12:48 pm; the mother of the 2 yr old had the battery charge.
Hollys Gmom – me either. I wouldn`t be surprised if he rented her out.
It makes me believe he didn’t care for her at all, regardless of his “I love her, I love Misty” claim. If he did/does, I just can’t see him saying it that way. “She cheated” or even derogatory comments about her & co-cheater but never the words he used.
WIth ROn’s apparent temper:
DV claims
Gun threat claims
Chasing down people following him
THreats to Misty
Threats on 911 call
etc….
Can you really see him saying those particular words about an incident involving someone he loves/loved? Especially to Cobra, someone he had been trying so hard to prove he was a tough guy to? Admitting that weakness (love for her) just seemed completely out of place with the rest of his statements.
IMO
beautiful;
No…not sure…shall we look? What video Sr? Jr? I finally found his accident drunk driver’s name…they said it in recent audio…They must have heard we were wondering about it…LMAO! The name is Richard Keiser. I’m going to look for his records too, especially concerning that wreck.
Does anyone know where there are document dumps on this case?? You know interviews that LE had w/ individuals?
I’ve read seemingly everything on Caylee/Casey but I can’t find any discovery docs for Haleigh Cummings/Misty/Ron/Tommy/Overstreet etc.
TIA,
L
Ann, my best guess; Riddick at 197, or Bonds at 199.
So true. However, I don’t think Misty is near smart enough to beat a LDT or to even think she can. She is very slow and not real smart. She dropped out in 6th grade. She doesn’t know what the word ‘numerical’ means when asked for her address and she doesn’t know 10% of 10,000, etc.. She is not a mastermind or a sociopathic killer. When she failed the first test, she insisted on another, and another….because in her mind, she is telling the truth. Her mind is very much destroyed by lack of education, use of drugs, hx of abuse, socio-economic status and no telling what else.
@hollysGmom
alot of what ron has said and done has been out of place for me also, his why you let my daughter get stole***** is really wierd wording for me to hear. at that time he didnt even look for her at all how does he know she didnt just wander off?(could happen!)
March 16 2009 Orlando Health put a lein against R W Kieser
satisfaction filed 05/11/2009
Haleigh was afraid of the dark and afraid of water. (may not of went outside in the dark alone) Misty said the lights were on in the kitchen, etc.
Maybe whoever took her knew that she was afraid of the dark and turned the lights on so she wouldn’t make any sounds….?
HollyG, Sr. during the river search, when he was confronted by reporter.
Nite all….
JenM , you are right, she is really slow. compared to my daughters who are her age but dont think like her at all, look at her parents though, the mother! giggling and laughing with her on them JHT’s about some salt and what not if that was my daughter in that siuation , you would of seen a whole different thing, they wouldnt of let me back in there!
She looked like she knew what she was doing in the video tapes, both in action and words and knows she was doing wrong while telling the UC “I can’t get trouble for anything right now”.
She is less educated, never really had a good run at a good life like spome other but other have overcome what she dealt with many times over.
Misty fell in this game and learned and liked it and lived it, until she got caught doin’ deals.
She isn’t smart enough to fool a ldt, hardly anyone in the world is, however, she knows she can tell something up to a point where it would incriminate her and she all of a sudden knows nothing. Imho.
Lili said,in May 7th, 2010 at 1:18 am
Hi Lily,
There are no doc dumps as of yet. None until someone is finally charged and evidence is transferred between attorney’s offices. Soon we all hope.
Misty is not book smart, but street wise. Not good with the percentages, but we all watched her count out pills by 10`s. She was fast as lightning in that recording! I was impressed.
Beautiful;
I missed that one but will go look…now I want to see it.
I still can’t find anything substantial on that wreck…weird..
I hear ya, Calykoo,
If it were MY daughter, I would NOT be happily chatting w/ her as though being in jail on a slew of felony charges is no big deal, just a little bump in the road.
But, I also feel sorry for these people. Hank, I’ve read, cannot read, at all. Lisa is obviously no genius. Misty quit school in sixth grade and her highest (no pun) aim in life is getting a GED in prison. ?!?
I was shocked to learn Lindsay is or will be a nurse. An LVN is nowhere near an RN in terms of schooling, and employment but compared w/ the rest of this crew, Lindsay’s a flippin’ Nobel Laureate! 😉
L
nite! and true ron prob would know she wouldnt have done that if she was afraid, it still seemed out of context for him to say that and then be all sweet to misty days later, she must of had some power over that guy.
I hear ya, Calykoo,
If it were MY daughter, I would NOT be happily chatting w/ her as though being in jail on a slew of felony charges is no big deal, just a little bump in the road.
But, I also feel sorry for these people. Hank, I’ve read, cannot read, at all. Lisa is obviously no genius. Misty quit school in sixth grade and her highest (no pun) aim in life is getting a GED in prison. ?!?
I was shocked to learn Lindsay is or will be a nurse. An LVN is nowhere near an RN in terms of schooling, and employment but compared w/ the rest of this crew, Lindsay’s the president of Mensa. 😉
L
Pinky,
LOL !! No Misty’s no wiz w/ percentages nor is Lisa! 😉
Simon, YOUR RIGHT IT’S DOUBLE STANDARDS. Rich/Poor/Black/White it’s all BS. It’s an abyss of some very deep seated curruption. Right now Misty and Tommy are where they need to be. These people cannot get out and the truth has to be found. Misty was a child when this happened and we need to learn what happened and they have to be held accountable. Wait to find out what Jeff Hardy’s son’s sentence is. That is when you will really see double standards. You can’t take on a cop with the idea of all should be fair and equal. The world does not work that way. It is as it is has been forever and will be for a long time to come.
i feel for her because of the parents she had, i’m not a perfect mom but dang they are just down right stupid! and misty must be a little smart or afraid or something cuz i would of cracked after 3 minutes of interrogations! lol honest i would have.
HollysGmom:
Thank you. You’re absolutely right… I forgot that there isn’t really any case against them yet.
😉 Lili – if we just made her a pie graph out of pills… and started taking out slices that she
couldn`t have. She would have that percentage
problem licked within a week. Afterwards, we
could take a picture of her in a cap & gown. lol
She could learn it, I have no doubt.
Not only were the parents uneducated, they were also, according to Grammie Flo, both crack heads. (Hank and Lisa)
Not sure I believe Grammie Flo, tho…
To get a better “perspective”… well, possibly one, look at the photos of Misty pre-Ron. It’s amazing at what that lifestyle will do to ya!
we see a different misty in the drug bust video and when she is in jail, she is just acting in jail, the drug bust misty was the real one!
@Pinky ROFL You are right… you just have to make the math relevant!!! 😉
LOL!
“Misty, you may have 20% of the pills in the pie graph….(10 in total)”
Misty: 8?
Have you found it anywhere beautiful? Still looking…day 1, 2, 3, or 4?
nope!
In Hardy’s campaign biography he stated his wife, Susan, worked for a local bank, married for 20 years, had a daughter, a son and a daughter-in-law and a two year old grandson.* (This would be in the Fall of 2008 before the election.)
*Noted no names for the daughter or son/daugher in law, and no ages.
His first wife’s father must be the man across the street. Wasn’t too lucky in trying to track down the first wife, didn’t get a name.
This is the first time for me that the pieces of the puzzle fit and behaviors and actions can be understood. God help them and get them strength.
imo
Ann
lili, yes i heard that the parents were that way but didnt she grow up with grandma H and even had a picture taken with her? she seemed healthier then, she looks bad right now, i know people who drink all the time and do other stuff and they age real fast.
grammie flo seems to stick up for misty, is that because it would make her grandson look bad if she bashed her?
There is a Richard N Keiser from Alachua county
who did 2 yrs for Robb Gun/deadly weapon
1996-1998 DOB 03/29/1979
Inmate search Florida DOC
Says he was living in Tampa area after release.
@ComeOn~you are correct…most of the time, no one wants to hear the facts. other times its like a pack of viscious dogs pouncing on a tidbit the size of a shrimp…and dragging it for miles. the statutes you have listed on the florida law books are correct. there are many who don’t care to be educated before they speak…
i know a little something about criminal law…have been studying it for years. one point i’d like to make is that laws in the united states, and the carriage of justice under those laws are greatly open to interpretation. each statute, each case, each state, for that matter have vast differences when compared to each other. the bail schedule folks, is SET, according to each county, or juristiction, including states. the sheriff, the cops, whoever, do not influence the regulation of the bail in any instance. if this was so surely a “conspiracy”,the officers, (sheriff or the “powers that be”) would have intervened in the first place, made sure mr. imm was not on site during the raid, not arrested him if he was, or launched a gigantic cover-up in the first place. this is certainly not the time to drag sheriff hardy through the mud…i’m certain LE knew all along that he was Hardy’s son (to think otherwise, in such a small town, would be ridiculous), and to sheriff hardy’s credit, he acted appropriately and professionally in the face of what most any decent parent would see as a difficult (if not heartwrenching) situation.
i find it interesting that this site wants to villify the croslin/cummings families one day,and leap victoriously to their defense another. like a bi-polar mood swing…its dizzying.
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php
Lindsy Croslin files for divorce
I still am unable to find Croslin wreck info. I know Sr was taken to SHands as a result and allegedly a male was arrested for drunk driving. Sr & Jr talk about a man named Richard Keiser who owes Sr money and it in jail. I’ve looked in Duval, Alachua, Putnam, Flager counties for any record of that person and can not find any. Does anyone know where the wreck was supposed to have taken place? WHere were they, where were they heading? Where were they comming from?
I haven’t seen a thing to support any of the croslins or ron for being anything other than scumbags. The same scumbags that “lost” a 5 year old kid somehow. Then they lie as to how it happened. They are quite the crew.
I think it’s the problem with “a drug is a drug is a drug” theory. It is true but not for sentnecing/bond amounts. Each drug has it’s own limits per trafficking charges. Meth/meth production apparently vastly different then Oxycontin charges.
I think the meth lab is as dangerous, if not more dangerous to the public at large, so it should carry a stiffer penalty…but JMO
I think they want to stiffen up the precrption pill penalties so we don’t have anna nicole situations. Too many doctors prescribing to much to people and either they od or sell the pills.
Quote from Chelsea from an Art Harris interview:
Two days before Haleigh turned up missing last February, a drunk driver with no insurance smashed into the used car Timmy and Chelsea had just bought days earlier. Hank, Sr., her father in law wound up in the hospital in Gainesville, Fla., she says, and didn’t come home until after Haleigh vanished, on crutches, pins in his leg and a lot of pain.
Within hours, she’d raced back to Gainesville to pick up Misty’s mother and hightailed it back to the Sheriff’s Department, where she and Timmy joined the long line of family members for interviews, took polygraphs, and watched Ronald and Misty hand over the clothes they were wearing to police. “Ronald was wearing his company jumpsuit, like a blue work outfit that zipped up the front, and they both went in back and took off everything, including their underwear.”
“Even though we’re at odds now, because there’s a lot of stress in the family, I’m not going to lie about it,” Chelsea tells The Bald Truth. “I’ve never seen Ronald hit the kids. He’s a very good Dad, and he’s proved it. How often do you see a father get custody over a mother?”
Yet she now says there were loose pills laying about the MH…Great dad, huh???
Satsuma or Genoa City?
Double standard yeah obvious. We all know why the Croslins and Cummings got the high bonds no one is dumb here and anyone setting the bond for the Sheriffs son is gonna make it low cause he’s the sheriff’s son. I think they should of made an example out of him. Didn’t Tommy and his dad rat out that the sheriff’s son was on drugs? At least they didn’t do the favoritizm on getting him busted.
I thought I read something on Imm’s arrest record about manufacturing methamphetamine. Am I losing it?
Misty was and is being set up like a bowling pin..
LE wants the glare of ineptitude taken off them, they blew the case from the beginning
with their bungling bull in a china shop investigation..
they mishandeled or destroyed any evidence at the trailor
and have focused everything on their “scapegoat” Misty.
Misty already said what she knows..NOTHING! LE is making Misty the fallguy for
their moronic ignorant blunder of an investigation.
misty is innocent!
What difference does it make if they have a high bond or not? They cant even afford gas in their car to get to the jail to visit so how is anyone going to bail them out???
I, for one, belive Lindsey knows more. She is good at playing innocent but she is definitely NOT
I believe Hardy was divorced in 1984 and his ex-wife’s name is Misty Ann Hardy Kearns Imm, (not sure if there are any other names she goes by)
Their son’s name was listed as a II, not a Jr, so it seems the son changed his entire name not just the last name
This is probably a case of: We will never find out where Haleigh is and we will never be able to pin it on anyone. There is no evidence of a murder, no weapon, no witnesses, no suspects and no body. No crime, except there is a missing child and a scene that appears to be an abduction.
Then we have a bunch of irresponsible adults who possibly could be involved in the dissapearance, but everyone is being proven to be liars and drug users/abusers/sellers. Most have criminal historys and some have failed lie detectors.
We have cops and specialists who have not been able to figure out where Haleigh is or who is involved in her disappearance now for over a year. They say they have several persons of interest, but don’t name them. They don’t name suspects either.
The pressure is on to clean up this case. They set up those adults connected to Haleigh through a drug bust. Still no clear answers to many questions about Haleigh. Only the public digging for dirt on the individuals and forming opinions on what their involvement was with Haleigh’s dissappearance.
At this rate, we may never find out who is involved. Seems the focus has been taken off of Haleigh and is now on gossiping about the adults, their lifestyles and what’s the latest in their daily lives. I hope we don’t have another Jon Bennet type outcome or a Jaycee Duggard scenario.
Pray that Haleigh comes home.
The only double standard here is blaming Sheriff Hardy for the Florida Legistlatures flawed drug laws. A simple reading of Florida Statute 893.135 explains the discrepancy.
To be charged with as a drug trafficker with a minimum mandatory of 15 years the quantity of prescription medication compared to the quantity of meth is obsurd.
25 kilograms of meth is comparable to 14 grams of vicodin under the drug trafficking statute. The weight of prescription meds is not based on the narcotic only but the entire pill. 98% of that pill is Tylenol. Therefore 14 grams of prescirption medication would equal approx. 0.28 grams of the narcotic drug hydrocodone and approx. 13.72 grams of Tylenol.
The differences between trafficking and selling is the quantity of drugs. If the quantity of drugs is not large enough to fall under the trafficking statutes, the person is charged for sellling not trafficking. With prescription meds more than a few pills falls under the trafficking because of the low weight.
A more simple explanation. The Croslin/Cummings busts were for prescription medicine and the statute treated them like they were Scarface. Hardy’s son was for meth and the statute treats him as a addict who sells drugs to support his addiction.
Drunk Driver Info (I believe)
Richard Kiser DOB 11/20/53
DUI with bodily harm 02/07/09 in Putnam county and got 3 years supervision, currently in Ft Lauderdale
He is listed on the DOC site
WhyLie said,in May 7th, 2010 at 7:16 am I believe Hardy was divorced in 1984 and his ex-wife’s name is Misty Ann Hardy Kearns Imm, (not sure if there are any other names she goes by)
Their son’s name was listed as a II, not a Jr, so it seems the son changed his entire name not just the last name
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the sheriff’s ex-wifes name is misty?
OMG!! no wonder “misty” has been SET UP on drug charges and viciously interrogated by LE!
Misplaced anger issues towards his ex and son!
Its all becoming very clear now..
LOL OJ, I knew you were going to love that one!
Ugh. Different day…same ole #@($%$&
toughcookie said,in May 7th, 2010 at 2:16 am
i find it interesting that this site wants to villify the croslin/cummings families one day,and leap victoriously to their defense another. like a bi-polar mood swing…its dizzying.
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I’m with ya’. I don’t know where all these conspiracy theories comes from. Hardy didn’t set the bond…has NO say. Drug trafficking charges require MUCH higher bonds than what Joshua was arrested for. If folks don’t like it, perhaps they can work on passing different laws. The ONLY thing that took place is Hardy’s son was arrested (rightfully so) and the law was applied to that arrest just like any other arrest. IF people would research they would find the SAME bond for people with the SAME charges. This wasn’t a case of different treatment for different folks. It is a case of different treatment for different crimes AS dictated by the law (not Hardy).
Common sense has escaped so many. FACTS have escaped so many. I don’t get it.
Morning everyone,
Well, I see y’all found a morsel to chew on last night.LMAO
Did it help anyone locate HaLeigh?
One piece to this puzzle is all it might take to foil this plot.
IMO the motive is the glue that bound the individuals that are guilty of the crime of ABDUCTING HaLeigh not the aftermath of an accident and a cover up.
That binding of the many involved is why this case has not been solved.
Something that is well planned in advance is more likely to be pulled off for months, years, maybe forever. A crime committed in the heat of the moment such as after an accident or OD and if we are to believe the Poi’s are the Croslins and Cummings it is hard to understand the ability these individuals have that gave them the wool(intelligence) to pull over all LE agencies eyes, ears an credentials involved since day one.
IMO I have not drank the Kool aid (OJ to funny) and will remain sober till I hear the sweet song the fat lady will sing.
Hello and welcome, to all the new posters!!!!!! I hope you enjoy participating here in the future, it will be the place to be when the dodo hits the fan.
Good Mornin’ Tex! Sure got nuts here yesterday. The fat lady tried to sing but she got splattered by the poop that was flying, and then she drank OJ’s koolaid and hasn’t been seen since! LMAO
ROFLMFAO uh oh need my depends this morning.
While it is certainly true that LE does not have control on the bond amounts, they certainly do have control over the sting operations, how much money they spend, how much drugs they purchase and sell, as well as how many times they initiate the stings.
It is LE that does the sting operations to the degree of being able to charge either trafficking or sales. LE choose to do stings on Misty and the others that would entail drug trafficking charges, not sales charges.
LE choose to only buy a limited amount of meth from Imm and only did one sting (that we know of so far) to keep his charges down to sales and not trafficking.
Tex – LOL – may need depends today but ya’ needed waders yesterday because it got DEEP! It’s going to take WEEKS to clean this room out! LOL Now, grab a shovel and start helping! I don’t suppose you brought any of that Febreeze with ya? We sure could use it! LOL
Well every one seemed hungry yesterday. They have been eating this chit for 15 months and have not learned to purge and start over at the full buffet again. This time I would suggest staying away from anything smelling fishy.
WhyLie…I’m not going to argue today. I about got an ulcer yesterday over all the half-baked, slanderous comments made yesterday. Not going there today. I’ll be happy to discuss the Haleigh case with ya though! 😀
I will stay and help clean up if you can tell me how big herbs get so I can plant them after in the beds I have killed my self making. Twin sister bailed on me … she knows everything about plants, I am a beginner.
IMO the drugs and charges and everyone that does them at this time has nothing to do with HaLeigh or where she is or how any off us can help in that area.
I am totally for harsh sentencing on drug manufacturing and distributing and prescription abuse and turn around to sell on the streets.
Before I get drawn in or critisized for my non sympathy for those that are behind bars and the topic of the article above, it, is because of the drugs that our nation is going down the tubes. Our future is these young people (17-25)and what the hell are we going to be facing in the next 25 years in a war on drugs that is killing now our babies. It is no longer the dug manufactorer,seller,user that pays it is the innocent and if you really look at the statistics they (innocents) far outway indeath and losses than the ones that made the decision to make, sell or do the drugs.
JB the Chit is to deep …I am faking a spranged pinky and will come back when it has composted. LOL
I know in my heart this case will be solved and that HaLeigh will have justice.
I wish there was a clear veiw for us all to see the truth, it’s almost like looking at one of those hidden pictures that appear to some as just dots and others a beautiful image, its how you look at it and are able to focus on the important parts and not the whole page. You know what I mean?
Tex – sorry, I have a black thumb when it comes to plants. I don’t think you want me within a 100 miles of your herbs! LMAO
And I agree, this Hardy son thing is a distraction, has been blown out of proportion, has been a rumor mill on an epic scale totally absent of fact and has NOTHING to do with finding Haleigh.
I also agree that drugs are robbing us of a bright future as our children are methodically stolen by this deadly addiction. I believe in stiff penalties for those who manufacture, sell and distribute. I hope Hardy’s son is subjected to a stiff penalty and will go to prison for many years for what he did. But at the end of the day, that has nothing to do with Haleigh, finding Haleigh, finding out what happened to Haleigh or bringing justice to this beautiful child.
Tex – it’s okay…I think I’ll just call the fire department and have them hose down the room. I’ve broken two shovels and three finger nails trying to clean the chit up. Time to call in the big guns! LOL
Anyone who is involved in LE KNOWS that yes, there is a double standard. Of course he got a lower bond because of who he is and who his Father is. It happens all.the.time., especially in small towns. Get stopped for speeding, oh your Dad’s a cop, well, just be careful. Get popped for a DWI, oh, you’re a sheriff’s deputy in the next county over, let me give you a ride home and this other officer will drive your car home.
It doesn’t make a damn who set the bond, they all know his Dad is the Sheriff, and THAT gets him preferential treatment, period.
Selling a pill is not going to blow a house skyhigh like a meth lab. Ever seen one disassembled? You have to attend a 40hr class to be trained how to do it, it’s THAT dangerous! Never seen anyone have to attend a class to raid a house for pills.
JB – Thanks, I hate arguing, but I do love discussing and tossing ideas back and forth.
The reason, for me, that LE (and Hardy) are important to discuss is because early on there were many, including locals, who believed that the level of the investigation into a missing child, and then the escape from Putnam Jail that led to a murder of an innocent woman, were retaliatory in order to make Hardy look bad, by those that supported his predecessor.
Is it probable? Unlikely, but it is possible given the good ole boy mentality of many rural, back woods, LE agencies.
LMAO Well it is a shame. A lot of good points have been brought to light over the last few months here, by many of us regulars and some very knowledgeable new posters that I wish we had been all keen on digging further into and diligently avoid the distractions unless they are relavent to HaLeghs aduction.
Karen….and what does that have to do with Haleigh? How does Hardy’s son being arrested mean that Misty, Hope, Ron and Tommy got a bum deal? The LAW dictates the amount of the bond. If Hardy’s son and the pillbillies had been arrested on the exact same charges I could see why everyone would be screaming foul and I’d join them. But that isn’t the case. I just don’t get how everyone is screaming that LE has messed up this case, they are all corrupt, the Croslins and Cummings have been falsely accused and imprisoned, etc., all from Hardy’s son getting arrested. He got the same bond amount as others in that county who have been charged with the exact same crime who were not a flight risk. How does that mean he got special treatment?
Nevermind…I told myself I wasn’t going to do this again today. I think I’ll just drink the conspiracy koolaid and get it over with. 🙄
Ron has a bail hearing at 2:00. It appears from the docket he might be getting out.
JB said,in May 7th, 2010 at 9:34 am Karen….and what does that have to do with Haleigh? How does Hardy’s son being arrested mean that Misty, Hope, Ron and Tommy got a bum deal? The LAW dictates the amount of the bond. If Hardy’s son and the pillbillies had been arrested on the exact same charges I could see why everyone would be screaming foul and I’d join them. But that isn’t the case. I just don’t get how everyone is screaming that LE has messed up this case, they are all corrupt, the Croslins and Cummings have been falsely accused and imprisoned, etc., all from Hardy’s son getting arrested. He got the same bond amount as others in that county who have been charged with the exact same crime who were not a flight risk. How does that mean he got special treatment?
Nevermind…I told myself I wasn’t going to do this again today. I think I’ll just drink the conspiracy koolaid and get it over with.
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I thought you were going to ignore me. I wish you would, I do not owe you an explanation about anything I post. So, don’t address me anymore, ’cause I am now ignoring you.
Nevermind…I told myself I wasn’t going to do this again today. I think I’ll just drink the conspiracy koolaid and get it over with.
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I don’t give a damn what you drink or do. No one said anything about a conspiracy, except you. Idiot.
WhyLie good point! In my opinion it still does not explain why this investigation was handled in that fashion. I can see the other crimes used to make Jeff Hardy look bad, but, not the abduction of HaLeigh! It is possible and has been a thought in my memorydex(new word),because of the Sheffield’s LE ties and the good ol’ boy pact that might of been a nut just tossed in their lap and a motive to derail the investigation from the beginning.
And so it begins…AGAIN….good grief….. Let’s just hang Hardy from the old oak tree in the center of town…he’s probably the one that kidnapped Haleigh anyway. Heck, let’s elect Ronald Cummings for President while we’re at it. Misty can be First Lady. They can adopt Lindsy and Tommy’s dog to be First Dog…at least maybe SOMEONE will take the poor dog out to pee anyway.
LOL
OJ’s glove said,
in May 7th, 2010 at 8:08 am
WhyLie said,in May 7th, 2010 at 7:16 am I believe Hardy was divorced in 1984 and his ex-wife’s name is Misty Ann Hardy Kearns Imm, (not sure if there are any other names she goes by)
Their son’s name was listed as a II, not a Jr, so it seems the son changed his entire name not just the last name
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the sheriff’s ex-wifes name is misty?
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Lol! …and if you search hard enough, he`ll probably have a sister named Crystal who probably wears a wig and likes pit bulls.
It`s like standard Putnam County stuff.
In trouble with the law since the day they wuz born…. makin` their way, the only way they know how…
JB your not getting it honey. It is a small town and corruption is real and a NEW Sheriff in town is a big deal and he stepped on toes and cut the waste upon his arrival. Its not rocket science or brain surgery to many just politics.
JB: Be wary of newcomers that are convinced of the “abduction” scenario. They are sure the CS is hiding out HaLeigh and all others are totally innocent. They are posting on Lindsey’s youtube page words of encouragement that everything will soon be found out and all will be a ok……..
Just thought I’d give you a head’s up cause I know how passionate you get when things start going that way, poor Ron-poor Misty!
I know you and I are on the same page here.
Stillucy…yeah, but I’m just an idiot, or so I’m told. You might want to find a different page to hang out on rather than being on the same page with me. Very unpopular place to be. Brings about a lot of name calling, bashing and hatred….for some reason.
Simon,are there anymore audios or vids??? Please……Tommy keeps telling Lindsy how good she looks, I would love to see a video of there latest meeting…as well as hear what is going on between them closer to her filing for a divorce….Thanks, Simon, for all you and everyone connected to this site, keeping us informed…..To the person, forgot name, who said she got all her news from NG…oh dear,,you are at the rght place….Simon always has more “BOMBSHELLS” and the bombshells are up to date,,,not last weeks news….You are n the right place if you are following little Haleigh’s case…
I changed my mind! It was scary here when the sun went down, now it’s looking scarier when the sun is up.
If for some reason that scumbag Ron does make bail today, that’s were the real travesty of justice is…….He is totally involved in his daughters death not abduction! Neglect, drugs, whatever, he’s a liar and unfit to care for himself let alone anything else.
Ron was in on everyone of the drug transactions if he walks, they all should walk.
stilllucy
I am no loger considered new. I do beleive that the Sheffield are responsiable. I have a screen name you can name me as a believer if ya want to.
Yes I did stop by Lindsys page and gave my support to a young innocent women who needs to put her children first and remain strong for them.
You are not looking for HaLeigh just the gossip huh? Well , I hope I set the record straight everyone and for you stilllucy. I am not ashamed of my opinion and have not change it like so many others since march of 2009 and will not be rude or crude to those that believed differently. By the way, I am from Texas and am all about the BBQ. I will be needing lots of sauce and napkins please if I am wrong. LMAO
Later, need to sweat to some Lady Gaga and plant some herbs.
This site is the king of posting the Misty/Tommy jail tapes. I find Tommy’s tapes with Lindsy by far the best. I also feel we are about to enter the best phase of these tapes. That, or Lindsy, just cuts him off, thus leaving us with no more listening material. Honestly, I think we may have just a few tapes left to be aired at this point between Lindsy and Tommy, before she says, “BYE BYE”.
JB: I don’t respond to those that try to sway folks away from the known facts of HaLeigh’s case. And you are not an idiot! I just wanted to make sure that you were informed about who was here. There were some attacks going down here involving her the other night so I did some surfing. If you start getting WOWed, check out Webslueths. They have so much fact based info from the very beginning. Levi Page is associated with this site. Very informative.
It will set you at ease and totally make you feel better about your ideas and convictions about this case.
Oh, and JB, I ain’t going no where………I’m all grown up! I know how to ignore those that try to incite evil.
JB – Don`t let it get to ya. You`re correct… different charges. I`m sure if Sheriff Hardy`s son was a suspect in a homicide investigation he`d be getting every charge they think they could make stick too. …but he is not. Cummings and Croslin are exactly where they need to be… and not going anywhere. Doesn`t Ronald have a bond reduction hearing today at 2:30? We`ll see how that goes. I`d tell him to go pound sand and like it.
By the way, I’m new to this site, but not the case. And I have to admit my addiction to these jail tapes, I simply love listening to them. In a sick, warped way, I feel like I know some of these people. Isn’t that twisted? Tommy, the way he speaks, he has a “whine” to his voice like a little kid. I simly can’t stand that freak. Honest to God, how did this guy ever find a sober woman? I mean, if I was Lindsy I would have to be seriously loaded or drugged to even go near that moron. It’s better to date a pine tree than it is to date Tommy, more hygenic too–I assume.
“Vicious Republicans” new blog, I know where someone needs to go………
Misty is innocent until proven guilty, true.
I wonder if before they give her 25 years for her drug charges, she will fess up. If not, she can think about it for the next 25 years, which imo, LE has a pretty tight case based upon the videos we’ve all seen of drug trafficking.
Stilllucy….well, I was just trying to state my opinion. Was being nice about it too. But it appears some don’t want to discuss facts. They just want to spew venom. Truly sad. Thanks for being supportive. I’m not going anywhere either. Will take a lot more than being called an idiot (for speaking the truth) to run me off.
Pinky – careful, you’ll incite vicious and hate laced posts on yourself! LMAO. Thanks for the kindness as well. Not going to let it get to me. If speaking the FACTS is too much for some, they can go blog with NG and her “BOMBSHELLS” which are generally absent of fact or even reason for that matter.
Steve Brown would not have hung in with Crystal investigating HaLeigh’s disappearance if he felt that Crystal was involved. His investigation brought him right back to the County where it happened and the people involved originally. I am sure that if CPS felt that Crystal had anything to do with any of this, they would not have placed Jr with her when Jr had to placed after Ron’s arrest for drug trafficking charges, numerous charges of drug trafficking.
Common sense, people. Wasn’t the spotlight already on this mess enough without more scrutiny?
Phrydoom – I too am addicted to the tapes and for me it is like watching a freak reality show. Too bad the subject is so real and horrifying.
I think lowering Ronald’s bond will be the final straw for an increasingly stressed out Misty! I think it is a good strategy. I do believe he is guilty though. IMO!
Why is Ron having a bond hearing today? Isn’t he scheduled to go before the judge next Thursday for the drug charges? Maybe Nancy Grace will have him on her show tonight.This case needs to end soon and find justice for little Haliegh.
A bunch of yelling about nothing since Imms is still not bailed out and may never get bailed out. Whats the difference in 7000 or 70,000 if no is there to make your bail? He doesnt have anyone to hand over the $700 so its a moot point. I dont think there is any chance LP or AH putting up his bail is there? Remember how bail works if you use a bailsman you dont get back your 10%(700).JMO
Another thought…..Misty and Tommy have pretty much been cut off from everyone, so we kind of think……They are stewing, so we know……And Ron may get bailed out today…..
What might that do to Misty and Tommy?
LE know that these 2 goof balls are the weakest links………
Let the games continue…….
Hopefully, there will be more BOMBSHELLS than WWII, soon!
Not surprised to hear Ronald Cummings has a bond hearing.
IMO, Ron Cummings knows way too much and if he talks, Hardy’s son may never again have to worry about his name again as he will forever known by Inmate #……..
It is time the FBI step in and clean this up. Wouldn’t call the local fire dept as they could be involved as well.
People that are fair-minded examine each and every side with a fair mind. They do not set opinions and assumptions in cement and back themselves into a corner from where they feel they would look foolish to change their minds.
Until late last night I was sure with my opinions and assumptions that Ronald Cummings was guilty. (He is guilty of selling drugs, and has a long record and never had consequences that is true – it is all in his criminal record and on the tapes.)
However, I no longer feel he is guilty of directly harming Haleigh. He did place her in harm’s way because of his choice in selling drugs and being involved in the drug trade.
However, we are here to try and solve Haleigh’s disappearance.
In my mind, I find the pieces of this puzzle are finally fitting in place. Now, whether they stay there, or if a few pieces are different shapes than how I see them at this juncture, we will see.
Open minds, fairness, in honestly seeking justice for everyone, is the page I am on.
Falsely accusing someone in the name of justice for Haleigh is not justice. Finding the person or persons that brought harm to this little precious child is justice. It doesn’t matter to be who is involved, they all have to pay the consequences of this crime.
It can sit on Sheriff Hardy’s doorstep, at law enforcement doorstep, with Theres, with Sykes, Crystal Sheffied, Ronald Cummings, Misty, Tommy, Timmy, Hank Sr., or any of the others, it doesn’t matter to me – all I am interested in is true justice and those responsible be made to pay whoever they are.
Can you all forget for a very minutes the names of any of these characters, please –
Ron said at the get go – first 911 call – ‘they’ took her, you let ‘them’ take her,
he was in deep grief (I thought because he was guilty, but now I am thinking differently — because I have an open mind not because I am bi-polar, thank you).
Misty was drained. Junior says he saw a man in black and heard squeaky shoes. Heard the sofa bounce too.
Ron was behind in his rent – was having problems with money.
Perhaps, now just perhaps, he owed his drug suppliers lots of money, let’s say the figure of $35,000. (That was the figure Hank Sr. used so Ron could get Haleigh back.)
Bouncing sofa – raping Misty.
These drug dealers, suppliers, the people Ron owes, say, $35,000 to, then take Haleigh.
They know Ron, have known him very well. They are all in the same drug business. They are well aware Haleigh is Daddy’s little girl. They know it will send a very clear message, not only to Ron, but to everyone else to not mess with them and pay your debts.
Ron may have been threatened if he didn’t pay. He just didn’t imagine that, perhaps, a school buddy would ever take his child. He thought they would give him more time to come up with the money.
What could Ron do at that point, if these drug suppliers, who, by the way, only lived and had their Meth Lab only 3 and 1/2 miles away had connections and influence within law enforcement itself, he would be putting his entire family at risk as well as himself.
Ron did the only thing he could do, he made threats that he would kill these people – he repeated that over in many different ways. He has always maintained he would handle it his own way, they would be wasted. Yes, even if he had to spend the rest of his life in prison.
Drug dealers are ruthless, heartless and fearless.
Misty could never talk, so she lied and never passed a LDT. Too many lives are are stake to risk doing anything like that.
Theresa, Sykes, and Ron all know what Misty went through that night, they are in fear themselves of what could happen if Misty talked.
Don’t know what Tommy knows as Tommy is a loose cannon. Perhaps he knows something, as he said recently, something that Ron happened to say, perhaps, one night when they were high. It referenced his children. Would these people come back and take Junior?
T and C knew. They got to h-ll out of there as quickly as possible for the sake of the safety of their own children.
Lindsy just came to know and is furious that Tommy continued to place their family in such a position. She is alone at night with their children. She is terrified.
Hence, the hurried divorce.
Now, are the drug dealers the ones arrested yesterday. Don’t know. It is the location of their manufacturing plant that makes one suspicious. It is their connection with influence within law enforcement in Putnam County.
I respect and value all your opinions and scenarios of what went down that night when Haleigh went missing.
My personal opinions only,
Ann
Why do people have to be so nasty cause others don’t agree with them. It’s not like any one scenario is written in stone.
JB, you are not an idiot!!!! I wish we all could get along. Back to work, break over
I hope the bombshells are really ((((BOMBSHELLS))) this time.
LOL! Another good strategy would be to lower Ron`s bail but have Misty carry out the calculations of percentage it should be lowered
by. That should take us right up to the Casey Anthony trial of 2011 for an answer.
Someone posted Ron’s court is cancelled according to First Coast News. I was hoping he’d get out today.
curious, do you have the link for RC’s cancelled hearing???
After Tommy was served divorce papers, he will go over the edge if Ron gets bonded out. I wonder where he will have LE search next in an effort to make a deal and get out.
I wonder if Lindsy has given LE any info or evidence (like the boots) that will help find Haleigh, so she can file for the reward herself.
Pinkyandduhbrain said,in May 7th, 2010 at 10:46 am
ROFLMAO 😆
If it is true that Ron’s bond hearing was cancelled….I’m REALLY curious as to the reason. What is LE up to? Is there a storm a brewing?
I do so want to know what Tommy’s reaction was to the divorce papers being served.
And where is the Magic Man and Lisa? Where are they hiding?
What is going on????? UGH!
Do you think the bond hearing is canceled because new charges are coming?
Most of us are just blogging and discussing facts based on released info of the investigation. We have not inserted ourselves into the investigation as some. Some here have inserted themselves into this and are trying to convince others that they know facts to the contrary. They have been there, they know things that we don’t know as fact, they are on the inside. When in fact, they are probably just friends of the players. Who really knows as they hide and claim to be from places that cannot be confirmed. In my opinion only.
I just checked in.
JB you are an awesome person and we agree on the facts that have been presented. I know it took me awhile to be convinced that Haleighs dad was involved, but I remained suspicious due to his bizarre behaviour. I now believe he is involved! Thank you stillucy for pointing out the fact it was Crystal who found Steve Brown to find out what happened to her daughter. Ronald has done absolutely nothing to search for Haleigh; not even the night she disappeared!!!!!!
Crystal has made her mistakes and I believe she has true regrets, but when it came to finding Haleigh she put herself out there although it did not make her look good as a mom. It has been Ronald lying to the public!!!
Everyone claims they were out to smear Ron; poor Ron!! The claims were drug parties, sex parties and abuse allegations. Well, so far none of this has been slander!! It has been fact. We will find out if there was abuse other than just NEGLECT. In all honesty It was RON that proved to all of us he is a bold face liar to save his own butt. He should of put himself out there like Crystal did. He should of did it for HALEIGH!!!
I hope he does not get out! I am tired of him using Haleigh to his benefit, but blames it was because of Haleighs missing case that he got stung!!!! Dana Treen did the interview of him in jail. This is where he talks about if there would of not been a case on Haleigh he would not be there ( paraphrasing), but he does not mind using the grieving daddy campaign when it benefits him. SO SO SO SAD!!!!
No one is an idiot, why is it a problem that some of us have latched onto the idea of the bail amount? If R & M attorneys can argue successfully about the unfairness, then they are out, and then where are we? That is my issue with the amounts, it’s not about feeling sorry for them!
Hank and Lisa are hiding in plain sight. They were seen getting gas the other day, reported by someone to media after Granny Hollars was on with Levi, Sunday night. They just aren’t taking any calls from anyone, family included.
Good Mornin’ LFJ…and you know how I feel about cha’! You da bomb! Love ya! ((((HUGS))))
Great post about Ron. ALL factual. You go girl! 😀
If Ron gets a vacation from jail I hope he enjoys it. He’ll be back in jail soon for the drug sales.
Unless he is the snitch and gets off, wouldn’t surprise me in the wacky case.
I wonder who would be paying the fee? Or is LP going to do it for the publicity. Like him or not, a ton of people know who he is. He’s gotten his name out there for sure. Don’t know if that’s a good thing or not.
Maybe the sunshine is not such a bad thing after all!
So, has Ron’s bond hearing been cancelled or not?
Hey JB! Goodmorning to you too . (((( HUGS)))).
I was really peeved. There truely is no need for that kind of display! We all love Haleigh and want to know what happened to her and severe punishments handed down.
I know you can hold your own. I just felt you needed to know you are truely loved and respected here.
Ronald Cummings bond hearing was to reduce his bond.
Now why would that surprise anyone?
The term being tossed into the ring is
‘trafficking’.
However, the scale of trafficking consists of Schedules – Schedule 1 includes all meth and is the most serious; Schedule 11 includes narcotics such as codeine, Hydrocodone, Oxycodone.
Surely you can agree that by undercharging the Privileged Four yesterday enabling them to get lower bails would bring focus on the other side of the coin. The overcharging of the CC Four.
I said last night that defense attorneys were spending the night preparing briefs to be filed this morning and bet you dollar to a donut that is what is happening.
If this were not national and international news perhaps it could be ignored. But it isn’t and justice will prevail.
Personally I am not understanding so many positions of black and white with no gray areas. If you are dead set in your opinions that it is ‘black’ then why do you bother even discussing the case?
None of us know what is going on with this case, we are exploring all possible avenues that might make sense.
When one has cemented stands, noting can be explored and new avenues are missed.
I certainly hope law enforcement have a more open mind in truly investigating this case or it will continue to go unsolved. Which, well might be the way they want it to go.
FBI – where are you? You need to take a more active part in this investigation whether you are wanted or not. Justice needs to take priority.
imo
Ann
B*A – I just don’t think Hardy’s son got any special treatment is my point. I totally agree the bond amount for Hardy’s son (and specifically the crime he committed) should be higher. But the law is what it is. The only thing that made me nuts was everyone screaming about Hardy being corrupt, Hardy this and Hardy that. The way the law is written Joshua got the same bond for his crime as others have gotten for the same crime. Trafficking holds a MUCH higher bond amount. Is that the way it should be? Probably not. But it is what it is. If folks don’t like it, change the law. But they shouldn’t go for Hardy’s jugglar because he has NO control, had nothing to do with the bond amount and didn’t write the law that dictates that bond amount.
It just made me nuts how vicious everyone was being about Hardy. You know I love ya! Always will! But the OJ / Jason slander campaign was over-the-top and absent of fact. I did the checking and did the homework and Joshua was not treated any differently than others who faced the same charges. His charges and the Croslin / Cummings charges are very different in the eyes of the justice system. People were comparing apples to oranges and slamming Hardy when Hardy didn’t create the rules, the laws or have any say in the bond amount. That was the ONLY point I was trying to make.
Now, HUGS! Pleeeasssseeeee????? 😀
Does anyone know how long the bond hearing has been scheduled? I just heard about it this morning. I am wondering if they announced it just long enough to get Misty/Tommy angry.
“Cummings, 26, is charged with five counts of trafficking narcotics, with bond set at $900,000. A reduction hearing is set for 2 p.m. in Putnam County, but a possibility exists it could be canceled, said Chris Kelly, spokesman for the State Attorney’s Office.”
…but a possibility exists it could be canceled… That is strange to me.
Stilllucy…I don’t know if it has been cancelled or not. Couldn’t find anything on FirstCoast or anywhere else saying it was cancelled. Has anyone found anything?
Over at Gainesville.com it says
Cummings, 26, is charged with five counts of trafficking narcotics, with bond set at $900,000. A reduction hearing is set for 2 p.m. in Putnam County, but a possibility exists it could be canceled, said Chris Kelly, spokesman for the State Attorney’s Office.
JB… I’m not angry with you or your point of view. I was not leaning in the corrupt Hardy direction. But, I worked for the Sheriff, I know how they take care of the own, doesn’t mean it’s Hardy. ((((HUGS)))) always.
2010.05.07 Ronald Cummings hearing set at 2:30 pm (release on bail?)
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“Snip” http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php
2010-04-26 28 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
2010-05-06 29 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM
2010-05-06 29 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
2010-05-06 30 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM
2010-05-06 30 STATE’S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
2010-05-06 30 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT’S
2010-05-06 30 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
I spoke to someone from News4Jax about the hearing. Not sure why they would not allow cameras inside, but they will be there and they will give us an update. This is what I was told this AM.
Quote:
4 is covering the hearing, but I don’t think we can bring it in
live.
We’ll update the story on News4Jax.com as soon as we know what happened.
News4Jax.com
LFJ…again, thank you my dear. You’re a sweetheart. But don’t worry about me. I’m a big girl and I can take it…..but it is nice to have my pals here to hand me a bandaid afterwards! LOL
B*A….are you still here? Don’t be upset with me! You KNOW I love ya! Dang, guess I’m gonna have to build me another dog house….. *sigh*
I’m here!!
So they drop it to 500k or 250k, who’s got that kind of money or property or even 10% for the fee. The actual bail bond isn’t free to those that risk his flight. I don’t think ron will flee, but, that’s why they have bonds.
Interesting news on ole ronnie boy.
Ahhhhh….thanks B*A….so does this mean I don’t have to build another dog house????? 😀
Are my posts @ 11:19 & 11:22 not showing up? My refresh is taking forever.
B*A….thanks for finding that on Ron….I wonder why they said it is possible it could be cancelled. What would be the reason? Sure peaks my curiosity. I mean, it could be for a reason unrelated to the case…..but I’m HOPING that it means charges are coming…arrests are going to be made…and Justice is finally coming to our little angel!!!!! Wouldn’t that be AWESOME?
Y/W JB. Hey BA how are you doing? Hope all is well.
NO, house needed evvvvvaaa!
B*A…my refresh is taking awhile too…your posts did come through. Just takes awhile to get a response back to you! LOL
Hiya LFJ… all is well, except this continued allergy/sinus prob! How are you?
JB.. Y/W… Hoping for the best in this case!
B*A…phewwww….I wasn’t looking forward to the Milkbone treats either! LOL
Ahhh, yes, peace and harmony…… enjoy it while it lasts kids….I’m sure it will be short lived.
So what is your all’s guess as to why Ron’s hearing could be cancelled?
I don’t know…. maybe a deal!
Someone wondered who would post Rons bail lets see,
1.LP
2.NG
3.Shoemaker
I bet 2 people will be very angry and ready to bust a blood vessel. LOL JMO
B*A…I hope so….I think….LOL…depends on WHAT kind of deal….I was SO certain that we’d have arrests by now. WHAT HAPPENED? I’m not a patient woman! LOL
Hey Tobias….I see you survived the onslaught yesterday and last night! LOL Need a bandaid? I think some of us are walking wounded today! LOL But it’s all good!
So do you think someone is bailing Ronnie out? Or do you think a deal is in the works? Or maybe charges about to be filed? What do you think?
BA,I have bronchitis at the moment , but I am not feeling too bad.
I really do not know why they would cancell the hearing.
I was thinking if LP was going to bond Ron out he has enough money that Ron would not need a bond reduction. I am actually SUPRISED NG has not bonded poor Ron out!!
Does anyone know if Annette Sykes owns her property? I was thinking if his bond were lowered she could put up the deed to cover his bond as long as her property is worth the amount needed to bond Ron out.
I’m not patient either!
Maybe he is gonna roll on Misty and Tommy? For a deal on both the drugs and Haleigh? He sure found out from Hopes trial that he may be looking at a long strech one way or the other. jmo
The fact that the spokesperson from the State Attorney’s office is the one who said the hearing could be cancelled is what has my curiousity peaked. What do THEY know? What is going on behind the scenes? A deal? Hmmmmmm….my mind is racing! LOL
Maybe they are just changing the time/day of the hearing in order to keep down the media/public coverage, like the way Lisa and Hanks hearings were changed.
We need someone down there to tell us if they see Teresa or Grandma arriving. I’m just like JB I am not good at waiting.
My guess would be stradegy move by LP, Brown and LE. As everyone knows the other 2 are gonna lose it if he gets bail. jmo
Tobias…that is what I’m thinking….he had a front row seat to watch Hope get sentenced….he may have decided he better pony up and cut a deal or he’s looking at some SERIOUS time. Let’s hope that is the case anyway. Time will tell.
B*A…I don’t think patience is a virtue any of us has! LOL
They say patience is a great virtue. My virtue has left the building……..Come on already.
BBL
He won’t be out that long. But, I’m thinking if I was ‘in’ I’d want be ‘out’ pretty bad.
Hopefully ron doesn’t knock up some high school girl while out.
LFJ… hope you get to feeling better soon. Bronchitis can be a nasty bugger!
Miss Betty – okay….who lives the closest? LOL Someone get on the road and go stake out the courthouse and watch for any signs of a Cummings! LOL We need news already!
Stilllucy…my patience left the country! We need some answers and Haleigh needs justice.
I’m just hoping between Hope’s sentencing, the high bonds, the serving of divorce papers, the fog of drugs lifting and the smack of reality is FINALLY getting through to at least one of these players and the truth will soon be told.
Jaba…yup, Ron gets out, he’s going to be looking for some tail, that’s fo’ sho’. Everyone better be locking up their teenage daughters when/if that day comes.
MADJGNLAW said,in May 7th, 2010 at 11:25 am
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Thank you for all your info on the bond hearing today!
you gals are just too funny! LOL . It is true though. I guess he’ll get some clean boxers and go on the prowl.
Thanks BA for the well wishes.
Tobias, I had heard last week that Ron’s lawyer was canceling it. Don’t know if it is true or why. But I hope they grant it, reduce his bond to little or let him out on his own. Anything and anyway just let him out, for the same reason you said, what a great strategy!!!!! Let the other 2 lose it, and lose it good, maybe we will hear some TRUTH. Something that has been far from this case. Haleigh deserves TRUTH!!!!
KIR – Good Morning! Yes, on one hand we hear the hearing is moving forward and then we have another statement from the State Attorney’s office saying it is a possibility the hearing will be cancelled. UGH! WHICH IS IT ALREADY? LOL
I keep going back to the time when the judge asked Ron’s attorney if they were working on something with the DA and he said yes. Makes me wonder what is in the works and will we soon learn what exactly Ron DOES know about Haleigh and whether he was involved…..hmmmmmmmm
My new chant is:
TRUTH FOR HALEIGH
TRUTH FOR HALEIGH
TRUTH FOR HALEIGH
lfj…I doubt Ron will take time to get new boxers….who needs boxers for what he’ll have planned! LOL
But he may not see the outside of a jail cell anytime soon. In time, who knows, he and Tommy may just start to think some of their jailhouse roomies are looking very attractive, don’t you think? LOL
Good Morning to you, JB!
I’ve missed you..Been reading but still standing in the shadows for fear of being trampled to death, lol
I’m a little confused about the info Madj posted at 11:25 am re: the bond hearing today. Can you scroll up, take a look at it for me? Seems this has been in the works for awhile. News4jax is covering but maybe no cameras?? Thanks!
Treece I will join your chant. That is really the only thing that matters.
TRUTH FOR HALEIGH!!!!!!!!!11
According to the post Ron`s bond reduction was filed on 4-26-2010 and was scheduled for the hearing today. It will be interesting to see what happens, as I am sure Simon will update us if he indeed gets someone to post bond and he walks free.
Treece….we’ll chant with ya! Heck, I’ll stand on my head and shove noodles up my nose if it will bring some truth and justice for Haleigh!
JB I will join you but someone would have to hold my feet up for me to stand on my head. LOL
Twitter is reporting it was cancelled.
Gainesville.com
Cummings, 26, is charged with five counts of trafficking narcotics, with bond set at $900,000. A reduction hearing was set for 2 p.m. in Putnam County but was canceled and has not been rescheduled
JB you are a riot! LOL!!
Treece…LOL I’ll be right over! 😀
B*A….really? But I guess no indication as to why, huh? Why would Ron’s atty cancel it? Does that say “DEAL IN THE WORKS” to anyone else or am I just doing wayyyyy too much wishful thinking?
Maybe it was canceled because Ron had no clean shorts?
Treece….please be wearing appropriate clothing when I get there…..no skirt and a thong please! LMAO
WOW! it was cancelled. I hope it is a deal in the works.Ron has a pre- trial hearing set for next week. I wonder if that will stand or will it be continued?
Miss Betty – LMAO…..it probably soiled his last clean pair while he was in court for Hope’s sentencing! Hee Hee Hee
If there is no deal Ron is more than likely peed off too. The way Tommy and Misty have been whining about getting bail we can assume Ron would want the same. jmo
LFJ…sumpin’ HAS to be in the works. I can’t think of another reason why his atty would cancel. I think Hope’s sentencing might have forced Ron into a “come to Jesus” moment. I hope so anyway!
LFJ… maybe that is it.
I think I remember from the Caylee case that when KC Anthony was indicted for murder it became a “no bond” situation, right?
Either a deal OR new charges coming?
KIR…oh, you are getting me all hyped up with that thought! It’s SO time for this case to be solved.
Do you suppose the evidence from the boat ramp has come back? Maybe someone else is talking now too? Wished we knew the reasons. jmo
Dang! I’d even take an AH/NG Bombshell right now…..uh, maybe I’m not quite THAT desperate…..yet….. 🙄
KIR. Lord I hope so. Haleigh needs the truth to come out so that she can rest in peace and those responsible give her the JUSTICE she is due.
Tobias…I know, my mind is racing with the possibilities. Hope we find out something soon or we’ll all be in a looney bin!
I wonder if TJ will have any info on the cancelation?
((((((((BOMBSHELL))))))) I’LL BE BACK LATER, GONNA GO WATCH JONATHON CREEK ON YOUTUBE.
If ron gets out, he should go visit misty and tommy. Wouldn’t that be some good audio!!?
Nuttin’ new on AH. Nuttin’ on NG. We need a press conference from Hardy announcing charges in Haleigh’s death!!!!!!
Gainesville says it was cancelled but no further info. Ugh. Somebody tell us SOMETHING!
And who is Jonathan Creek?
Jaba – yup, we’d all PAY to hear that conversation!
Why is Times Square being evacuated? What now? Ugh!
Hey all!
OJ at 12:12am- misty’s post to amber, you can find the screenshot at scared monkeys,under Haleigh,under myspace pages
I don’t know if this was referenced yet -I was reading catching up
Chakra7…huh? LOL You lost me.
Realize that none of you are speaking with me since, God forbid, I am sorting through other possible scenarios which differ from you dead in cement opinons (no longer even assumptions).
However, find it really odd, that Putnam County records are down — possible overload –
possibly too much publicity generated with yesterday’s arrests – or, perhaps a matter of convenience?
Think they put the arrest records of the Privileged Four out in the dumpster in the hopes they will soon be forgotten and they can get on with life as usual 🙂
Only my opinions.
Ann
Not sure what you are talking abourt Ann.
I went to scared monkeys, went to Haleigh blog but don’t see the “myspace pages” area….what am I looking for and where the heck is it? LOL
I am new to post on this board, but I have been reading it for a few weeks.
I just got an email saying that Ron Cummings has been granted a bail reduction hear @ 2pm today but it was cancelled.
Also I noticed that Lindsy Croslins YouTube page reads…..I am single and moving on.
I was not sure if anyone else noticed that.
Thank You
Nikki6
Oh sorry JB
OJ was asking about proof of Misty’s nasty post to Amber , the one that said I have your husband and soon your baby
Nikki6 , yes I noticed it. Lyndsey also has posted that she is not in a good place right now.
lfj…I think we are the ones with dead in cement opinions if I’m reading that correctly and the conspiracy theory of TODAY is that Putnam Co’s website is down but it isn’t REALLY down, it is just a cover for getting rid of all the records of Hardy’s son’s arrest and those arrested with him and they are now making the case go away (apparantly by throwing the case files into a dumpster)…..rather than just a glitch in the website or traffic overload…it is again a conspiracy on an epic scale. WOW!
I don’t know whether to giggle or check to see if I’m on candid camera right now! LOL
I forgot to say welcome Nikki6.
For the sake of her children I hope Lindsy will be careful about who she moves on with. It will be hard to find someone who is willing to step up and be a good role model to three children.
I was just going through some videos on you tube and in one Ron and the kids are brushing their teeth. I noticed that Ron is not sporting the tattoo of teresa on his chest at that time. I wonder when he got the tattoo just a curious thing. jmo
Nikki – thanks for the update. We’ve been discussing the possible reasons for the bond hearing to be cancelled. Any thoughts as to why that happened?
Chakra – thank you for explaining. I had seen that a long time ago. But I’m not sure you’ll convince OJ that it is real. It will be more of the conspiracy theory to torture and kill Misty. LOL
Looking for justice,
Perhaps you are much to wise to have read the silly posts of this morning wherein certain ones on here suggested being bi-polar, changing one’s mind like the wind, actually most of it within the realm of perhaps even a Felony 1 – much worse than manufacturing and selling Meth; or riding around with all the chemicals to make Meth along with a small child in your vehicle.
God forbid that anyone should be open minded and fair in accessing new information and processing whether or not any of the new information changes the unknown positions of assumption which have been explored.
Law Enforcement in Putnam County have done no favors to Sheriff Hardy by that little technically of not charging the Privilege 4 with Trafficking – which seems to be what everyone on here is riding on.
Selling and manufacturing meth is a Schedule l, higher than selling hydrordone, oxycodone, etc.
Trying to find out the amounts they had to determine in a just and fair manner whether they should or should not have been charged.
However, perhaps by coincidence, Putnam County’s jail records are down – unable to access them.
And, also, odd, there are no documents to be found with regard to Imms. Of course the documents are readily available for everyone else. Again, what a coincidence to be happening at the same time. It may be that it crashed – no doubt it is overloaded.
This has infuriated so many people who feel our criminal justice system should treat everyone equal under the law. But the harsh reality, which we have seen with Ronald Cummings and his extensive criminal record, it does not.
IMO
Ann
Good afternoon, all! 🙂
Oh ! I do not feel my opinion is in cement. I feel very strong and it took me awhile to even come to the conclusions I have.I went and checked the inmate population earlier today. Joshua was still incarcerated at that time right along with Ronald Cummings this was about 11:30am eastern time. Is this a different web site than the one rferenced/
LFJ…Uh, I’ll let you handle this one….I’ll be over here…in the corner…with a box of bandaids if you need me. ROFLMAO
Tobias…how old did the kids look in the vid of Ron and the kids brushing their teeth? Just curious.
Ann, thank you for explaining. I saw those comments, but just did not comment on them.
I think there could be an element of truth in all the theories, including conspiracy ones. After all something has to account for all the odd behaviors. Face it, it is pretty shocking that the son of J. Hardy is involved in some serious drug charges, and he has a 2 yr old. Is this whole drug scene a way of life over in the big S? Poverty really brings on the urge for some form of instant gratification it appears. These people know all to well they can work till the cows come home and never earn enough to enjoy life, let alone manage to keep a roof over their heads. Not making excuses for druggies but it seems to go with the territory. And with the advent of Rx. drugs it’s becoming an epidemic in all walks of life. JMO
Oh JB grow up and stop reading clauses and turning them into statements of fact.
Thank heavens you are the one with the bandaids or the now bandages, as you seem to be always the one involved in the middle of any controversy – they will be always readily available!
Your mindset, it appears from what your write, is that you can say and do anything, but no one else is given that same right by you.
My opinions only,
Ann
Haleigh looks to be about 4 and junior looks about 2. Its on you tube its called Haleighs story. jmo
LOL JB!! I guess we will have too wait and see what happens with Hardys son. I read in the Palatks Daily News that the Sheriff said to treat him like any other arrested on this charge. I will wait and see what happens.
Its by kelly emeral. Haleigh -her story. jmo
Have a good day everyone. I must run now. Be kind to one another. Remember we all want Justice for Haleigh. Hello Tobias. I hope to catch you next time.
LFJ…can’t talk now…playing with my crayons and coloring book…waiting to grow up. LMAO
Sheewww doggies….gotta go get my dead opinions out of the cement before it dries! Nothing worse than a dead opinion crusted over with dried cement. ROFLMAO
Something is not right here. Notice how the motions seemed to of be heard on 5/6/2010? The motion to reduce bond was filed on 4/26/2010. It also states RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING) 05-06-2010.
Even though they put the date of the hearing for 5/7/2010, it looks like the motions were heard on 5/6/2010? Can someone explain plz? TIA
“Snip” http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/ext_app_sec/public_menu.php
2010-04-26 32 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
2010-05-06 33 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM
2010-05-06 33 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
2010-05-06 34 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM
2010-05-06 34 STATE’S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
2010-05-06 34 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT’S
2010-05-06 34 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
hi everybody— anyone here, now?
“snip” All Florida Jails and Inmate Search
http://www.bail-florida.com/florida-inmate-search/
JB,
Be sure and take those bandaids in case you get cut on the dried cement.
Glad to hear you consider the cement dead – that’s uplifting at least.
imo
A
Does this mean she was taken to prison? I thought she got 15yrs? Did ask for a rehearing, but looks like she is out of jail now!
Snip” http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758547&IMG=53175
HOPE ANTWANETTE SYKES
PALATKA, FL
Booking Date & Time: 1/20/2010 10:37:05 PM – Booking#: 10-00279
Release Date & Time: 5/7/2010 7:15:06 AM
DOB: 3/24/1991 – RACE: W – SEX: F
Does this mean she was taken to prison? I thought she got 15yrs? Did ask for a rehearing, but looks like she is out of jail now!
Snip” http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758547&IMG=53175
HOPE ANTWANETTE SYKES
PALATKA, FL
Booking Date & Time: 1/20/2010 10:37:05 PM – Booking#: 10-00279
Release Date & Time: 5/7/2010 7:15:06 AM
DOB: 3/24/1991 – RACE: W – SEX: F
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100507/ARTICLES/100509533/1002/NEWS01?Title=Cummings-bond-reduction-hearing-canceled
Here is the link to the email I received today. It really does not explain too much, but I thought I would share my 411 with everyone. Happy reading!
Ann…I’m not trying to argue with you but your post made me giggle about the website being down and LE was dumping the records in the dumpster and how our opinions are dead in cement…..sorry…just made me chuckle. I’m glad something I said proved “uplifting” to you…even if you said it tongue in cheek….cause you make me giggle and no bandaids are required for that….unless I fall down laughing….but nothing has been THAT funny yet.
Sometimes you laugh to keep from crying in this case……
Does anyone think that maybe Ron tipped LE about Hardy’s son selling dope and Ron is getting a deal made now? I hope Haleigh will get justice VERY soon. Have a great weekend everybody.
Miss Betty…I don’t know what is going on with Ron and his bond but I would sure LOVE to know why the hearing was cancelled. I pray it means there is a break in the case, charges are pending in regard to Haleigh and a deal is being worked. But it could be something as simple as the atty had something come up and so they cancelled. Only time will tell I guess. Keep your fingers and toes crossed it means something good that will bring justice for Haleigh! 😀
Hello Kate. There’s a few people here….off an on. So what are your thoughts on Ron’s bond hearing being cancelled today?
JB, It just occured to me it was on the 27th that they asked for the bond hearing, so maybe Shoemaker was hpoeful that Haleigh would be found and the story Tommy was telling would be the truth so now we know its not the case and he canceled. Could be who knows just throwing out thoughts. jmo
Hi JB, Rons lawyer asked for the hearing I believe April 26. It doesn’t seem like it would be fair to Ron to cancel it. I sure hope something is about to open up in this case. Little Haleigh has been lost too long.
Tobias – well, I guess that is just as possible as anything else we’ve come up with! If it is true that Shoemaker is the one who cancelled then it has to be because of a deal, because of charges or something perhaps like a conflict with scheduling….but I’m REALLY hoping this means something is about to break loose on this case. I hold on to every little sliver of news in hopes that maybe, JUST maybe, we will get justice for Haleigh. Some days it is much harder to be hopeful than others.
chakra7 said,in May 7th, 2010 at 12:34 pm Hey all!
OJ at 12:12am- misty’s post to amber, you can find the screenshot at scared monkeys,under Haleigh,under myspace pages
I don’t know if this was referenced yet -I was reading catching up
xxxxxxxxxxxxx
thank you..
Off Topic:
OREGON CITY, Ore. — A Clackamas County judge reached a verdict Friday in what prosectuors called one of the worst child abuse cases they had ever seen.
Assault, criminal mistreatment and reckless endangerment charges against 23-year-old Derek Piskorski stemmed from the alleged abuse of a 3-year-old boy.
The judge read a lengthy verdict just before noon, declaring Piskorski guilty on five counts of assault.
Piskorski was dating the child’s mother when he was accused of pouring scalding water over the child’s neck, shoulders and back of his head, causing severe burns. He was also accused of putting the 3-year-old boy into a freezer.
Prosecutors showed graphic pictures in court Thursday.
In court Thursday, state prosecutors showed very graphic pictures of the boy’s injuries. The child was treated at the hospital for a week and was living with relatives.
Investigators said the abuse happened between December and January.
The child’s mother, Katey Scheurman, pleaded guilty last month for failure to intervene and sentenced to 180 days in jail along with three years’ probation.
Scheurman told KGW in a jail interview that she was not able to protect her son.
“I was just not thinking. I guess didn’t know how to protect him right,” she said
Piskorski’s trial was being determined by a judge rather than a jury.
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Now I ask you, how could a mother say “I guess I didn’t know how to protect him right”? If someone is scalding your child I say grab something, ANYTHING and club the creep over the head, call police and get your child to a hospital. She did NOTHING! This world gets sicker by the second. Every day it is more and more cases like this. UGH!
I dont understand the not being able to protect her son part. Was she tied up? Knocked out? Was she beaten up first? It amazes me how the mothers can make excuses for not protecting their kids. I am with you on this one .jmo
I’m with you two on this one as well. Women have to be held accountable for protecting their children from these horrible abusers. I would consider making Scheurman’s sentence as hefty as Piskorski’s.
I find it hard to believe that Hardy did not know his son was manufacturing meth–and in a trailer a little over 3 miles from Ron and a missing child case. He cleared SOs quickly, but did he investigate any known drug dealers, considering these people`s backgrounds and statements made? Is LE plagued with drugs too (remember Ron mentioned Merchant and Tommy mentioned Hardy`s son on tapes). I think its time LE cleans its own backyard before condemning someone else`s. JMO
I find it hard to believe that Hardy did not know his son was manufacturing meth–and in a trailer a little over 3 miles from Ron and a missing child case. He cleared SOs quickly, but did he investigate any known drug dealers, considering these people`s backgrounds and statements made? Is LE plagued with drugs too (remember Ron mentioned Merchant and Tommy mentioned Hardy`s son on tapes). I think its time LE cleans its own backyard before condemning someone else`s. JMO
Tobias….just sick of hearing these stories where the mother brings some crackhead boyfriend into the home who abuses her child or children. At least in this case the mother faced charges too. WHY on earth would you NOT defend your child. Ain’t NO man worth it!
I find it hard to believe that Hardy did not know his son was manufacturing meth–and in a trailer a little over 3 miles from Ron and a missing child case. He cleared SOs quickly, but did he investigate any known drug dealers, considering these people`s backgrounds and statements made? Is LE plagued with drugs too (remember Ron mentioned Merchant and Tommy mentioned Hardy`s son on tapes). I think its time LE cleans its own backyard before condemning someone else`s. JMO
About Ronnie “i waz at werk in clean boxers” Cummings, I was out of it for a few days and did not realize that he had a bond reduction hearing scheduled to begin with. If they were going to reduce his bond and let him out the reason better be because they wanted to force Tommy and Misty to tell the truth about what they know.
Talking about ‘scalding’ – wasn’t there something about Haleigh going to school with her hands bandaged :), and it was attributed to Ronald putting her hands in scalding water because she didn’t behave?
Anyone remember anything like that – or am I starting to hallunicate also?
Also, now just sit down, take a deep breath:
You are right they did not charge the Privilege 4 with Trafficking – finally found the charges and the Statutes involved.
893.149-1a; 893.13//a/ 893.13-7a5 893.147-1
827.03-k (child endangerment)
They probably can hang their badges on there not being 14 grams – okay, I accept these are the charges LE filed.
But what they obviously missed in the charging phrase the applicable trafficking charge under trafficking Statute 893.13
Statute 893.13(l)(g) reads and I quote:
“Harm to children. The manufacture of methamphelamine or the possession of a listed precursor or essential chemical with intent to manufacture methamphetamine is
l. a first degree felony with a five year minimum mandatory sentence if the commission or attempted commission of the crime occurs in a structure or conveyance {they were charged with maintaining a drug vehicle – all four had that charge} where any child under sixteen years is present.
So, please some enlightenment soul please explain!
Do have to add, hard for my imagination to picture this group of people who had been monitored by police for some time, who owned a Meth Lab, who were four, who were selling to undercover officers, who had in their possession chemicals to make meth, to maintain a drug vehicle, and be in possession of drug
paraphilania, to actually have less than 20 grams when counted???
Again, enlightenment please as to how anyone might think this could happen!
IMO
Ann
Anyone know why Ron’s bond-reduction hearing was canceled?
Kate – LOL – I can understand Ron’s atty asking for the bond reduction hearing….just trying to figure out why he cancelled it! LOL But I hope it is for a good reason too.
Jules…Nope…we’re all trying to figure that out. I’ve heard it was Ron’s atty that cancelled it. Could be a deal in the works, could be fresh charges being filed or could be something as simple as a scheduling conflict. We just don’t know yet….but I hope if someone finds out they’ll post it here because we are ALL curious.
AMEN JB! I for one am sick of it too, a mother who’ll take better care of a piece of sh#t than her own child!
Haleigh scalded hands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKPfuhDG-OM
You will find it at about 1:06 on the 4 min tape.
A
tobias said,in May 7th, 2010 at 2:07 pm I dont understand the not being able to protect her son part. Was she tied up? Knocked out? Was she beaten up first? It amazes me how the mothers can make excuses for not protecting their kids. I am with you on this one .jmo
Actually Tobias,my opinion is the “Mother” should be held more accountable,she is the one who is supposed to protect her child,not a drugged and drunk loser who has no emotion anyway! it tix me off so bad! A chilkd looks to his Mommy to protect him!
This from gainesville.com about hearing..Not saying WHO cancelled it or why so not sure exactly if Rs attorney is the one who cancelled:
A bond-reduction hearing scheduled for this afternoon for Ronald Cummings, the father of missing Putnam County girl Haleigh Cummings, on drug trafficking charges has been canceled, the Putnam County Clerk of Court Office has reported.
Cummings, 26, is charged with five counts of trafficking narcotics, with bond set at $900,000. A reduction hearing was set for 2 p.m. in Putnam County but was canceled and has not been rescheduled.
Cummings, his former wife, Misty Croslin, and three others were arrested in January following an undercover investigation in which an officer allegedly bought narcotics such as oxycodone.
Haleigh disappeared from Cummings’ home in February 2009 while under the care of Croslin, who was then Cummings’ girlfriend. Sheriff Jeff Hardy recently said authorities believe Haleigh is dead and that the case is being considered a homicide.
new article at jax..
Dad: Misty, Hank ‘Didn’t Hurt Haleigh’
Parents Of Misty Cummings, Hank Croslin Jr. Talk About Haleigh Case
JB, I think this all leads back to when LP was thinking about bailing Ron out during the river search and has decided not to so Shoemaker just canceled it. I remember also LE told him to rethink his (LP) ideas. jmo
Butler was transported to the Putnam County Jail and booked on the following charges:
1) Producing methamphetamine
2) Possession of listed chemicals used to manufacture methamphetamine
3) Trafficking in methamphetamine
4) Resisting an officer without violence.
His bond was set at $23,016.00
Here is a bond set for someone in Putnam with the addition of “Trafficking” in methamphetamine and his bond is only $23k.
But here is another one being held without bond in Putnam Co:
Rodney Eugene May was arrested on the listed charges and transported to the Putnam County Jail. He is currently being detained without the benefit of a bond.
Charges:
1.Producing methamphetamine
2.Possessing methamphetamine with intent to sell
3.Possession of listed chemicals with intent to manufacture Methamphetamine
Here is a guy in Putnam that was arrested for trafficking pills…but it was for fewer pills….much lower bond than Tommy, Misty, Ron, etc.:
Stevens was arrested and booked into the Putnam County Jail on the listed charges. His bond was set at $11,508.00.
Charges:
1. Trafficking in a scheduled II controlled substance 14 to 28 grams
2. Issuing Fraudulent Prescriptions
And all of these folks were arrested together but only one was not given bond…and their bonds are a lot lower than Imms:
Tony Lee Williams, DOB: 01/19/1963
Manufacture of methamphetamine
Possession of methamphetamine with intent to sell.
Possession of chemicals used to manufacture a cont. substance.
Possession of drug paraphernalia
Maintaining a drug dwelling
Theft of electrical services
His bond was set at $4,520.00
Ralph Michael Smith, DOB: 3/6/1964
Possession of chemicals used to manufacture a controlled substance.
Violation of probation
Contempt of court
His bond was set at $5,008.00
Wendy Charlene Marx, DOB: 10/28/1968
Possession of chemicals used to
manufacture a controlled substance.
Her bond was set at $2,504.00
Michelle Gibson, DOB: 05/25/1976
Possession of chemicals used to
manufacture a controlled substance.
Gibson was also arrested on an active arrest warrant for violation of probation.
She was booked into the Putnam County Jail without the benefit of a bond.
Just trying to do some comparisons……
Thanks OJ…I’ll go check out the new article! 😀
Can anyone tell me why TN did not raise Ronald or his sister? Why did GGMa Sykes raise them? Something isn’t right about that.
Well, Magic Man and Lisa are still defending Misty and Tommy. Still making it VERY clear they have NO money…hint, hint…in case someone wants to buy them a house, a car…hint, hint… UGH!
Hank hasnt even got one penny in his pocket? Whats that tell you? The reason he did the one time interview with them. They are in a one room boarding house, no money, no job, but nothing on all their charges and drug use. lol People will be feeling sorry for them and yes will be dumb enough to give them money.jmo
Tidbits:
Ron’s attorneys have been visiting with the DA in the last month.
Is a deal in the works?
Ron either pleading to a lesser charge, thereby the videos would not be admissible,
or, did Ron cooperate by telling what really happened
Also, Nancy Grace apparently aired the videos of the drug bust BEFORE Ron Cummings attorneys recevied them (two attorneys). This is in conflict to the Sunshine Laws and it might mean that the charges will have to be dismissed.
If it is, I hope they sue Nancy Grace for everything she has!
It is the DA’s office that announced the bond hearing would not take place today. What does that mean? To me, if it were Ron’s attorney it could mean a conflict in schedule.
The DA – don’t know what that is all about, especially on a Friday afternoon. Interesting.
Also there is another hearing before or at the same time as the bond – forget the name, but the judge has to approve that the money beig used for bond is legal tender and does not come from illegal sources (as in drug trade).
Something is cooking in Putnam County, and I sure hope it isn’t rotten fish.
IMO
Ann
yw-OJ
I so Hope the bond reduction cancellation means a deal or someone talking Please, Please, Please JUSTICE FOR HALEIGH!!!!
Tobias…I wonder if Lindsey got Tommy that “Fishin’ Magazine Prescription” before she served him with divorce papers? LMAO He may want to change that to a Playboy SUBscription now that he is about to be a single man! LOL
YES to you, Robin, about LE cleaning their own backyard.
bbl
Like he needs a fishing magazine,imho he wants it so lindsey will have a few less bux for herself!
JB, I will wait on the final decree on the divorce. I think she did it because she wants to stay in Palm Coast and with that name she knows she isnt going to get a job and I have a feeling she is going along with others advice(LP) SO SHE CAN GET THE nISSAN SHE WANTS. JMO
Interesting OJ.Thanx!
Question: Are any of the Sheriff’s grandchildren missing due to his son’s drug dealing escapades?
Statement: Ingedients used to manufacture meth could be as simple as a sudafed tablet.
Just saying…………Does anyone know?
Tobias…you’re probably right. She does want that Nissan and she did tell Tommy to watch and see…that she WOULD get that car. These people are users through and through!
Bravao Tobias,she’s a user!
it makes me sick!
JB,remenber also she told Tommy she’d wait till HER FRIEND got here to fix the van or get a new car…….i wish padilkla could wake up!
Do Lisa and Hank have their car he bought?
Padilla!
stilllucy,
According to Hardy’s own bio for the Sheriff campaign, he had only one grandchild, at that time Fall ’08 two years of age. Since the grandchild was mentioned right after his son and his daughter in law, I am assuming it is his son. No partner was mentioned for the daughter. No names of the daughter, son, daugher-in-law or grandchild, or ages, were given.
imo
A
My dsl was down all last night been on tech support for over an hour and as soon as they answer my call the weedeater guy revs the dang thing up at my window the whole time almost……grrrrrrr such a headache,lol
Didn’t go to ky again but he had an interview so……………. we will see!
Croslins make me sick cause there are alot of people out of work, living in one room places, and have no money, and they have no criminal backgrounds, paid their bills and are just trying to stay above water. They are getting everything they deserve for all the months they let this go on. Why didnt Hank tell everyone how he keeps telling Misty to stop telling stories OH NO he says they didnt do anything.PPPHHHTTT. jmo
am i here,lol
I guess the kid in the car wasn’t Hardy’s grandchild….but NO child should be subjected to that garbage. I hope the family they placed this child with are suitable and not more meth-heads!
Tobias,he said on news4jax,he thinks no one will hire themn,i thought…well he don’t get paid to think either but has he TRIED?
I’M SORRY AND I KNOW ITS NOT HIS FAULT WHAT HAPPENED BUT PICK YOURSELF UP,TRY ATLEAST!
And stop reaching for handouts!
Hank said he didn’t THINK anyone would give them a job because of their rep. He didn’t say no one will give us a job. He hasn’t even tried to find a job, I’m sure. LP better stop playing sugar daddy to all these creeps. They are just using him. He isn’t going to get one useful piece of info from any of them and I’m sick of these people getting handouts. My message to the Croslins is STOP WHINING AND GET A JOB! You won’t know if anyone will hire you until you TRY! Sheesh.
He and Lisa have no babies at home? Thats what UI thought when Johnny passed,never been alone ever,was terrified,never worked cuz of reasons i don’t need to get into just now,lol but i had no babies at home and even now sure i could go get handouts but i refuse too,someone who has kids or disabled needs it way more than me and after i pay my bills if i have 20 bux,i am fine!
CathyJo – ROFLMAO – we were thinking the same thing. Doesn’t sound like he’s TRIED to get a job. He just figures no one will hire them…why bother TRYING to work when you can go to the media and whine and wait for handouts to roll in.
Hey OJ…Misty’s mummy and daddy need money! They ARE Misty’s flesh and blood and all….perhaps you could spare some change for them. Heck, they might even share it with Misty! LOL
JB
Please tell me how you arrived at an assumption that the child in the car isn’t Hardy’s grandchild?
Is that known for a fact?
All I heard is family members came and got the child and Childrens Protection Services were called.
If you know who the child is related to, please give us a link, or a hint.
Thanks.
A
Hank and Lisa already got a car from someone.
The tapes needed to be available to the defense prior to the media, wether the defense took the time to view them or not is their problem. No hanky panky there.
The bond reduction could have been cancelled also because it may not have been of a financial benefit to the defendent. Deal may not have been reached to defendent’s satisfaction because of ongoing investigation with HaLeigh. I don’t feel that LE is going to give in much there and they really don’t have to.
BINGO JB,he hasn’t! and i am fed up,I saw this documentary years ago about a little old lady in NY who eats “catfood” lemme tell ya…….I am nowhere near that so I thank God if i have balogna!
Exactly,hes a man for God’s sake!
Hank not having a job has everything to do with his criminal record, his poor education and he cant even pass a physical. Lisa on the other hand is healthy but with no teeth and her criminal background who will hire her? tHEY COULDNT GET A JOB EVEN IF THIS WASNT AN ISSUE PPPPLLLLEEEZZ,.Its their own fault and no one elses. jmo
Ann…The child found in the car was 2 years old. You said the only grandchild Hardy had was 2 back in 2008 which would make that child 4 now. Did I misunderstand what you posted?
The child was probably the grandchild of the ex-wife and new husband, the ex son of the Sheriff. The ex son of the Sheriff did take his new dad’s name.
LE has systemicaly DESTROYED every member of misty’s family..thats florida JUSTICE in all its glory!
Will they do the same to joshua’s family?
I’m sure he knows a thing or three..
meth, pills..haleigh? hmmmmm
I bet the detectives are playing “hot potato” with jason’s file at this very moment!
The CRUCIFICTION of misty is a gross and dispicable misscarriage of justice!
misty is innocent!
Ron’s bail hearing canceled, not rescheduled for a ” bombshell” reason. Can’t be publicly disclosed at this time. Likely all will know why by end of next week. Misty will be in jail a long time.
It sounds like Sheriff Hardy’s son didn’t like his dad too much. Maybe the Sheriff wouldn’t put up with Josh’s crap. I guess Josh showed him a thing or two, huh? Busted!
LE did not destroy anyone they destroyed themselves by doing illegal activities. Hank, Lisa, Tommy, and Misty they all were doing illegal activities that caused them to be arrested and charged. No one forced them into doing any of the things they did. All LE did was their job in arresting them. jmo
AMEN – CathyJo at 3:16- I don’t think they even try they are just like Oh well no one is gonna hire me anyway ,
JB: If the MagicMan had a commissary account, you know who would be happy to help him out!
OMG, I’m turning into one of them……
LoL Chakra,it sure is…….just like awwwwwwww poor me!
Right Tobias,Agree 100%
If i’d been arrested when i used…….my fault!
homespain…well, that was a very cryptic…but interesting post. Tell us more!
JB,
Okay, so I took the same math class as Misty!
A
Lucy,were you asking,lol if so Padilla bought them a car!
According to Misty and the rest of them this is nothing new for Hank and Lisa. Misty claims to have been living in the car and being homeless, this is no big shock for them. Hank and Lisa have lived like this off and on for their whole lives. jmo
hewked on fonix werked for me Ann!
I never did let schoooling get in the way of my edukashiun!
Misty and simpson, both “innocent” wink, wink, of one crime but get busted on another, dead to rights. Karma, as they say, is a beyotch.
This whole way of “staying on message” with her innocence sounds like a political battle, if you say something wnough, maybe people will belive it.
The court will decide though and we’ll see who is sitting for how many decades to pay for the crime commited. Works out in the end, I guess. Imo
And i am not making fun,its just that they use it as a crutch!
-news4jax
The parents were asked that when the Haleigh case comes to an end, will their son and daughter be vindicated for the girl’s disappearance.
Croslin Sr. said: “I think they’ll be found innocent, yeah, of not harming her. I don’t know what happened — what they know or what happened — but I know either one of them didn’t hurt that baby.”
I love how he has to throw in NOT HARMING her.
Nobody asked him that – stop it, stop it already!!!
Breaking News: Another day, Hank Sr. still knows NOTHING!
hm Tobia,ya know……thats true!
Never thought of it but their kids lived in cars,why not them?
My husband did,and his mom followed circuses,honestly she did………..with men!
Ann…LOL – no prob…this case is enough to give us all Misty Mathitis! Truth is, Hardy COULD have another grandchild by now….but who knows. I just thought it was said he only had ONE grandchild who was 2 back in 2008. But I certainly can’t verify whether he has had any others since so I guess the possibility is STILL out there that it was his grandchild. No harm, no foul. We’re all digging for the truth….just sometimes we whomp each other in the head with the shovel in our feverish attempts to dig a little faster! LOL
Hank Croslin Jr. “My heart goes out to Haleigh’s parents, Ronald (Cummings) and all of them.”
-ALL 7 of them thar parents.
I wonder why misty, when the UC’s were trying to see if misty wanted to traffic drugs, didn’t go to police so she could be a good citizen and avoid more crimes. I mean, she had about 7 chances. Oh well, I’m guessing its because she wanted to do it, and did, and got caught on camera etc….
Maybe she thought she thought the UC would help her find haleigh under a bunch of pills…no disrespect to haleigh, just misty and the rest of the accomplices.
Pinky – ROFLMAO – OMG….too funny! “All 7 of them thar parents.” I snarfed over that one! My co-workers are laughing at me because I’m snarfing! LOL
Jaba,imo.she could’ve found Haleigh without help!
she had her last! no disrespect!
For five months, Croslin Sr. and his 40-year-old wife have called a tiny room home. They stay in a board house in Putnam County and are unemployed. They said they don’t THINK anyone will hire them because of their reputation.
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You don’t have to THINK if you’ve TRIED to get a job!
Oyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! Donkeys learn faster.
This coming from a guy whose own kids beat him up to steal his pills. Lindsy said that in one of the tapes and Tommy was even arrested for supposedly wrestling with Hank over DVDs, we know what the truth is. Hank is looking for a hand out not a hand up. LP you reading how bad they have it? hOPE YOUR HAT ISNT CUTTING OFF BLOOD TO YOUR BRAIN AND YOU SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS.JMO
roflmao@Tobias! Spoken like a true smartass!
Sorry, JB. LOL!
JB
Remember that old commercial jingle
“I am stuck on bandaid, and bandaid is stuck on me” +)
A
Hank Croslin Sr. is really young yet he acts like he is 90 and is about ready for the grave. “Oh woe is me.” “The law has ruined my life.” I don’t think he was doing much better before Haleigh became missing. Granny Hollars said they always moved around and had nothing. I bet that car LP bought them looks bad now.
Cathy, TY I cant see how he can stand there and say those two wouldnt do it when they beat their own father up for pills. jmo
ann – yes, actually I do remember that jingle…LOL…we need lots of bandaids around here…but generally we can kiss and make-up and move on…..because it is ALL about Haleigh and not ONE person here, irregardless of their opinion, wants anything other than justice for that little angel.
Now, Ann, let’s work on your math skills! LOL…JUST KIDDING *extending a hand and waving a white flg* 😆
Amen Tobias,me either!!!!
Pinky – No prob….not the first time I’ve snarfed at work….won’t be the last. LOL
Let me get this straight, are you saying Misty whooped Hank “Magic Man” Sr’s AZZ too?
Wonder if charges will or can be brought against Nancy Grace for airing or getting the tapes before they given to the defense lawyers?
Also, across from the Crack House, an elderly gentleman appeared to some of the press and said he was Imms’ grandfather. He wouldn’t give his name.
Perhaps he was the first wife’s father.
This Immes would have been quite young when they divorced since Hardy said he was married to Susan for 21 years and this Joshua is 25 – may have not had any connection with the father really.
Hardy is a New Yorker – born in Buffalo, NY.
A
Hey B*A…..You’re back! YIPEEEEE! I’m not sure who whooped who but I have a feeling it happened a lot with this bunch.
Hank said in one video he knew Tommy did nothing,i didn’t hear him say Misty wouldn’t then!
he even said,don’t be lying?? shows she’s untrustworthy too!
According to what Lindsy says on the tape YES. She says you two when refering to that incident its on the tapes. jmo
Bad reputations: I wonder who earned those reputations? Hmmm…bet I can figure it out pretty soon.
Ann – as much as I would LOVE to see some charges, any charges, brought against NG….I don’t see it happening. LE has to make the videos available to the defense first….only then are they released to the public. The defense may not have viewed them before they aired but I find it hard to believe they weren’t provided the information before NG got a hold of it. I could be wrong…it’s been known to happen! LOL
I don’t think the ‘dvd wrestling” match was a tag-team effort. Correct me if I am wrong!
Miss Betty said,
in May 7th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
I don’t think he was doing much better before Haleigh became missing
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I think you are right about that. The solution is already in his head – I do not want to work. Then, he goes out and seeks the reason of the day, why not – In 2010 the big evil monster that is stopping him from working
is the law. In 1980,1990,2000…he found other things to blame it on.
Well, we all see how quickly Granny Hollars turned on Misty…and the rest of her grandkids. She defended Misty at first and 24 hours later she was shouting from the rooftops that all three were involved. Hank Sr. says Tommy didn’t do it but then on vid tells Tommy to come clean and that he better not be involved. Sr. tells Misty to stop lying. How the heck can Sr now say neither was involved? He doesn’t even believe their stories but he expects us to? WHATEVER! LOL
That media thing has bit that little cutie pie CA’s attorney in the butt, too. Cause he’s lazy.
Brain dead people!lol
It’s awfull difficult to be seen in the public when you’re sitting in a room viewing tape after tape after tape and listening to tape after tape after tape.
BA,i WILL TRY TO FIND LINDSYS EXACT PHRASE AND THE TIME CODE ON THE TAPE. JMO
My previous comment was written for those who have a “gut feel” for why there has been absolute silence lately regarding this case. And wondering why Ron had his bail hearing canceled.
My comment required, and this comment requires an okay prior to being written.
I agreed to do that for legal reasons. It was meant to only provide information that goes along with the idea that yes, there was a big reason for the hearing cancellation. All important players are feeling real pressure and panicking.
The heat is on, Misty knows she could spend the rest of her days in prison, and she is isolated and not doing well.
I wish I could say more specifics but that would not help Haleigh’s case. In time you will know more. You’ll just have to wait. I think my original comment allows you to see the direction of where things are going.
I could’ve got a job today but then i got high,
I couldv’e paid my child support but i got high,
I coulda paid my rent on time but then i got high,
I coulda put gas in my car but then I got high,
Chorus
But then I got high,then i got high,then i got high!!!!
They only need one jury to find them/him/her innocent and that will muck up everything for awhile.
As long as we don’t have misty proponents or opponents on the jury, its down the river, I hope, if they knew and had a hand in this little girls death.
Of course, the drug trafficking charges are pretty clear as what went on, although I haven’t seen the entire tape, only what’s been released. So that’s a jail sentence worthy of note.
On the haleigh deal, someone has to crack.
MOO?
homespain: Noted.
Cathy.. please say you are NOT conjuring Moo up!
Oh Miss Betty,
The car was stolen – by a friend they gave a ride to. Just happened to have left the keys inside – always do that in a safe neighborhood!
Ann
homespain said,in May 7th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
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I don’t know you or if what you are saying is true….but your post DOES give me some hope so I will pray that what you are saying is true and you aren’t just messin’ with us.
If it is true, then thank you for giving us hope. If it isn’t true….and you aren’t “in the know”…then please don’t toy with us. It is cruel beyond words. We love Haleigh and are desperate for Justice for this beautiful little girl.
They only need one jury to find them/him/her innocent and that will muck up everything for awhile.
As long as we don’t have misty proponents or opponents on the jury, its down the river, I hope, if they knew and had a hand in this little girls death.
Of course, the drug trafficking charges are pretty clear as what went on, although I haven’t seen the entire tape, only what’s been released. So that’s a jail sentence worthy of note.
On the haleigh deal, someone has to crack more than they already have and be able to have it corroborated with other evidence and maybe yet another LDT.
If misty knows nothing, why did she tell a phone visitor that ‘it would hurt two people, one we care about and one not so much” (paraphrasing)
Sounds like she knows something about other suspects and fails a poly.when she is asked about herself and what she knows and Fas a poly. Weird stuff. For the innocent one.
Hank Sr. wants us to believe they have nothing to do with it.
That means, he is also asking you and I to not believe our eyes and ears on the recordings we have watched – where he keeps prying his kids
on whether they’re are lying or not.
A bit much. Going to jail and speaking to them was actually as hard as a job. A lot of work
for nothing, if you ask me.
Adams,no,lol i saw this post from Homespin!
remember? She always wished she could say more?
I wish I could say more specifics but that would not help Haleigh’s case. In time you will know more. You’ll just have to wait. I think my original comment allows you to see the direction of where things are going.
Ann.they pawned it prolly,lol
JB
Nancy Grace’s trial on the Duckett case is in July. Hate that I have to miss it as I will be taking basic math! LOL
A
Afterall it is a high profile car,lol
who’d steal it knowing a bounty hunter bought it?
OH CathyJo….No MOO Conjuring! I barely survived the last bovine bloggin’ noggin floggin not to mention I shoveled cow crap for a week!
That bunch better not go with a jury trial. They have better luck with a judge and fight on technicalities. A jury will hang them.
yea Ann,and she didn’t want cameras around!
rofl ain’t that just fabulous!
Ann – ROFLMAO – well, maybe we can get you a Math tutor ( a real hottie ) and you won’t have to miss the NG case AND you’ll have fun learning math at the same time! LOL
moo returned on the other thread yesterday.
Is the Duckett case going to be televised? That would put NG on the spot with her bad attitude.
Did Hank and Lisa’s car REALLY get stolen? (And did Hank say to Lisa “Biotch, how cud yew lets my car get stole?!”) How did I miss that? LP prolly’ repo’d the dang thing! LMAO
stilllucy said,
in May 7th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
That bunch better not go with a jury trial. They have better luck with a judge and fight on technicalities. A jury will hang them.
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Amen, sister. A jury system would hang them for still breathing at this point. I believe
in some businesses the term for the Croslin
family would be called FUBAR? …just sayin’
Hank and Lisa got their car back.
Yea guys,then we can constantly say n/g eats better than we do,lol
Some guy they knew, was sitting in it while it was running, waiting on Lisa & Hank and decided to drive away in it. Hank reported it stolen but a few days later it was recovered.
😯 Moo was back? How UDDERLY disturbing! Hee Hee Hee MOOOOVE over Homespain…you’ve got company. Yeah, I remember the last time I got all excited over Moo’s comments…..should have known the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. Of course I had to wade thru piles of cow crap to get there only to find MOO had eaten all the Dang grass! That was a truly brutal experience and not one I will soon forget.
Homespain…I truly hope you are for real…but DANG, I got brutalized by a bovine named MOO the last time I bought into comments like yours. Forgive me for being hesitant to believe you are in the know…I mean no disrespect…..and I truly hope you are for real and the end is in sight…..
Can’t you see her own case on her own show,Adams tell us how that would go? lol
OMG…too funny about the car getting stolen. I was sorta hopin’ LP had repo’d it though! LOL
JB yep!! The madness thread!!
I think she broke most of us JB!
NG would never do that. Give credit to someone that is putting her in her place, NEVER…. Might give Crystal Sheffield and idea……
Ann, I read somewhere Hanks car was found and returned to them. It had a broken window and was trashed inside. LP bought the car so Hank would quit saying he had no way to get to work.Next he was complaining to Tommy he needs glasses to get his license. Those people are full of excuses.
NG, probably will be covered by the sister network, cnn.
Hey, Lindsey is wanting LP to get her a car….I know where LP can get one for Lindsey….it has a stain in the trunk in the shape of a 2 YO and smells like there’s been a damn dead body in it….but in a couple of years I bet he can pick it up cheap! LMAO Lord knows Geo and SINdy will be desperate for money by then.
B*A…are you sure it wasn’t the MAD COW thread? LMAO
I’m surprised any croslin has a valid drivers liscense.
JB OMG JB
They are desperate for money but I don’t think that vehicle has been released from the DA yet…….I thought you were going another way with that for a minute and then…..BAM! Funny!
yep, I be real sure!… turns out brandie is her sister, at least that is what she claims
stilllucy….sorry. 😳
jaba: OMG….Could be more arrestable charges for the Croslins. Driving w/o a valid license…….Watch out St Johns’ Co., here comes Hank Sr……..
So is MOO still doing the “insider info” thing or has she recovered from the bout of Mad Cow disease?
stilllucy – good thing there isn’t a law against driving with no teeth…four generations of Croslins would ALL be behind bars! LMAO
JB go look!
JB: Too funny. I’m still laughing about it but then I felt bad. It didn’t last long, I started laughing again. Am I a bad person. Naw…….
b*a…I’m too skeeered to go look! LMAO…I’m afraid I’ll have flashbacks! ROFLMAO….I just got the smell of cow patties out of my nose as it is! LOL
I prefer to call them the Satsuma Hillbillies.
I remember MOO being here the other night but I don’t remember her being bad. Now that gal from the big hat state, yea…..BAD…..and the commissary guy….always bad….but not MOO that I remember.
OMG! She went from ex LE to psychic? And she is still stirring up trouble I see. Does she still have cancer or has that been healed? I mean, if she seriously has cancer I wish her the best, I truly do…but DANG, how do you believe anything she says at this point!?!?!
Croslin Sr. said: “I think they’ll be found innocent, yeah, of not harming her.”
Translator – Throwing away her lifeless body
is not considered HARMING to a Croslin.
lUCY WE ALL HAD AN INCIDENT SEVERAL MONTHS BACK AND IT WASNT PRETTY . JMO
It’s also a misdemeanor charge
Stilllucy – welllllll, I stuck up for MOO too….but BOY did it bite me in da’ butt! She has changed who she says she is about 50 times, and caused ALL kinds of garbage. It was frightening…so tred lightly my friend. Maybe she’s turned over a new leaf…but DANG, don’t drink the milk if she offers….it’s a lot like OJ’s koolaid! LMAO
Gotta go all….be good guys….will try to check in over the weekend….watch out for those stampedes! They’re killers! MOOOOOOOOOO
Moo was sommin else!!!
Hank Sr. – “It’s like the whole world has condemned us, and we didn’t do nothing.”
It is time to put on your big boy panties, Hank. I know you can do it ol’ boy.
Jan spoke up her the other day and let us know that she has banned 2 bloggers. MOO may have been 1 of them. I didn’t pay too much attention because I wasn’t talking to her.
Later JB, be good!
Jan said the one was posting aas two and she banned her. She moo was answering and asking herself questions like she was 2 people.jmo
moo answered Jan on the other thread
Tobias,exactly and i think she waas the one who scared herself that night too,lol remember?
when i figured that out,I lost it!
did she Adams?
Does anyone remember the babysitter using the computer and telling what was in files she found on the counter? Sounds very similar to me. jmo
I remember it tooooooooo well!
I’m glad they’re feeling condemned though… I’d hate for all this to be for naught.
Hank did you know that you can’t do nothing?
It doesn’t exist. One is always doing something, even if they or others feel it has zero value. Just sayin… bee boo beeeeeeep!!!
Please make a note of it. 😉
HUH? Lost here…….Twilight zone…..
I am doubling over from laughing!!!
This is too funny!
Love the JB 4:53 comment – went into convulsions over that one!
But don’t you wonder with this crowd – everything they do is so illegal – but they need driver’s licenses? Seems to me pretty minor when your car is loaded with dope!
Got to run also.
Be happy!
Ann
Hank began receiving unemployment since his car accident and I think he is still collecting it. Says the guy drunk driver who hit him should be out of jail paying him for losses and damages he incurred. Hank blames the man’s girlfriend for allowing her boyfriend to drive her car without insurance. He told Misty he has to conserve money for Lisa’s fines and there’s no point looking for work until he goes to Court. Hank said he contacted his former employer but he won’t hire him although he worked hard for him and put in long hours.
Hank Sr. is the type of guy to get hit on purpose. It’s a money maker. Oh, mannnnn…
my neck, my neck…. now the pain has moved
into my foot! Oh, Lawdy… Miss Daisy.
No one is going to hire Hank because like us they know he has screws in his knee and needs surgery on his back. Whether this is true or not only his doctor knows. After all the shanangans I wont believe him 100% on anything he says it seems to run in the family. I wonder if there is a liar gene?? jmo
Ive heard of that scam, they wait at bars for a nice car to pull out and they get hit by it. Assuming the car is nice the guy driving it has money and insurance also drunk since he was at the bar. lol Who knows with this crowd. jmo
I bet hank sr.’S idea of hard work didn’t match up his former bosses expectations…just guessing of course.
And the un-insured motorist? I wonder how many times the croslins have driven without insurance…I’m sure it never happened, yeah, right.
Its only a problem when it happens to you.
If hank is on unemployment he would have to be seeking work certain minimum times a week right? I wonder if his search logs are up to date and can be verified?
I swear it reminds me of Rusty neck Willis!
LoL
He was a man from ky who everybody knew that would just bow up in traffic and let you smack into his car and then he’d sue ya……..he wore his neck brace almost his whole life but it was always the same one,we called it his flea collar because OMG it was white but coal black from use! LoL
If Hank worked up until his accident wouldnt he have a tax refund too? We never hear about his tax money why is that? We hear about Tommys and Timmys but Hank never says anything about his. jmo
Oh Lord,prolly just gave them ideas….lol
Cathy, with this bunch anything is possible heck they may be related to Rusty. lol
I expect ot see Hank and Lisa leaving as soon as they are allowed. The reason they are poor mouthing is to get money and make an excuse for leaving the area. I believe Lidsy said Hank was talking to a relative so thats probably their next move. jmo
The Croslin’s seem to get a burst of energy and renewed health on tax day. Can someone
explain this? They are so fit come April.
It’s mind boggling.
Heck according to GHollars she had Misty for years without seeing or hearing from Lisa and Hank and Misty was a little girl then. I see them leaving soon. Thats why they stopped visiting and taking on the phone to the rest of them. jmo
The father of Misty Croslin-Cummings and Hank “Tommy” Croslin Jr., spoke out Friday, proclaiming his daughter and son had nothing to do with harming missing Satsuma, Florida girl, HaLeigh Cummings.
Hank Croslin Sr. told News 4 Jax, “I know my daughter and son didn’t hurt HaLeigh… My heart goes out to HaLeigh’s parents, Ronald [Cummings] and all of them. I don’t know what happened that day. I still don’t know what happened.”
Where I live, you aren’t required to seek work if you’ve been injured in an accident or are suffering from an illness and under a doctor’s care. Hank is still suffering from the injuries he sustained in his accident so my guess is he would qualify for a long-term disability program. He isn’t penniless. He has been collecting unemployment insurance and LP bought him a car.
Hank probably owed his refund to the. IRS, they just kept it and sent him a bill for the difference he may have owed. Just guessing, of course.
Unless he claimed the minor misty, the ‘chosen innocent one’, he probably had very little coming back. Of course if lisa claimed her, then she or they had to get some chunk of change back, unless he or she owed it to the IRS. Any refund probably went to:
1. Cigs
2. Recreational material-(fill in blank)
3. Lawyer fee
4. Fines
5. Court costs
6. Burger king
7. The Sunglass Hut
8. Mobile home dweller tax for sewer service.
9. Etc…etc…etc…
If hank is truly injured and can’t work through the actions of another than he deserves what is available.
Him saying the former boss wouldn’t hire him made me think he was looking and could work.
IIRC, LP bought Hank the car so he could visit his children in jail and he rode with Lindsy to visit Tommy & Misty after his license expired. Not sure if he has to rewrite the exam. If you’re disabled and receiving unemployment insurance, you don’t have to be seeking work. Hank may go to jail so I don’t blame him for waiting until after his Court hearing to figure out what his next move will be.
Someone may have already posted this link, but in case you haven’t had a chance to see it, here it is.
http://www.news4jax.com/video/23490815/index.html
You are right, if he’s hurt and he’s going to jail anyway, why make a move.
New Game:
How many croslins can they jail at the same time?
The above video is of Hank Croslin, Sr. and Lisa talking about their kids.
Notice that Hank. Sr didn’t say he was sure that they didn’t help get rid of Haleigh’s body. I think Hank knows more about this night, than he is letting on. Tommy’s and Misty’s statements to the police, may have clued him in that they knew more than they admmited to in the past.
Thanks for the vid, Karon. Is that a bottle of ketchup on his nightstand? I feel a new country song coming out of this.
LoL Tobias!
Moo???? Sounds nasty. Sorry people you got burned before, had no idea my comments would upset you, thought it would help. Anyways… I’m hoping like you that all will come to fruition as well, soon. I’ve seen it happen before where things look like the end is close and then ….nothing. I’m hesitant to even say anything else as it seems allot of people are frayed and any comments seem to just inflame people. I want the guilty people involved to pay, just like you. You all have a good night.
I’m surprised to hear Sticky Fingers Lisa Croslin plead guilty to stealing a woman’s purse in Wal-Mart. Hank told Misty her mother didn’t steal no dam purse and the surveillance cameras at Wal-Mart would vindicate her. Hank said the woman blamed Lisa because she’s a Croslin.
gonna go see the vid! brb
lol spy, I can see that…….they can’t get work cuz they’re Croslins……….lmao! dumbasses! i am sorry but i had to say that!
Hk sr. says “they don’t like to talk about the case on the phone because the talk can be made public. They’ve already confessed to the drug charges in one way or another and yet don’t talk about what they ‘don’t’ know concerning haleigh. They thought/think the drug charges are no biggie and what they have to hide about haleigh will hang ’em both. That’s why they don’t talk about it and hush themselves when they find themselves getting close to those discussions.
c and g didn’t like talking either,lol
I don`t know if this is okay with Jan… but she`ll zap it if she is not okay with it…
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7653.msg1128878#new
reply #340
T.J. Ward`s LVA results of Misty, on display here.
Very interesting to me. Lying through her teeth. Quite literally!
It also appears she has been threatened.
Misty`s thinking level 112.2 abnormal
Her name is Abby, Abby Normal.
Imagination level = 16.51 Extreme!
Abby Normal……rofl!
Here’a a thought for Hank and Lisa. They could apply for work with the Ringling Bros. Circus I’m sure they’re ready to kick off their touring season. They’ll be paid ,free meals, place to stay in each city but would have to find their own drugs. Oh silly me they might have to WORK scooping elephant dung etc.
rofl,you guys are on a roll,lol
Have I missed any Bombshells?
new article
Magic Man = Vegas, baby!!
New post, kids….
locked, always.
VAN SUSTEREN: Misty, do you ever use that doo yourself, go in and out that door?
CROSLIN: I mean, once in awhile I will take the garbage out through the back door, or leave through the back door and take a vacuum and vacuum the car out. But that is the only time we use the back door.
VAN SUSTEREN: Misty, did anyone come over to the house that evening while Ronald was at work? Any friends come over?
CROSLIN: No. My older brother had come over with my nephews, and the AC guy.
VAN SUSTEREN: What time did they leave?
Why did she not say Gramma Sykes was there?
new article up too guys!
I feel bad for Hardy,As i feel bad for all three families involved in Halieghs case.Hank,an Lisa also.I know this is awful for all of them..S Hardys trying to do a good job.Live a decent life,work as a Sherriff.Hes just like every other parent in the world,fighting against a child on drugs.Many dont turn their own in,they just wait untill the vice gets them.Some dont even know,if the childs not living at home.They may have suspicions,but not truly know
I still see not only in Putnam,but many places where the law just isnt lining up with the crime.Bonds arent set right.When i see where a man sodomized a 5 yr old,an gets out on 30,ooo bond.Then look at 1:35 mil for a 18 yr old ,whos has no record,an sold a few pills to people she knew.
I just dont even count the state supplied pills,mainly the 200 they got popped with right when the bust went down,those werent sold,or money wasnt passed,an UC knew what he was doing .Doing those people wrong.Preciced moment the bust went down I would fight with every ounce of time,an money i had to get that thrown out.If they did mine like that.
An then read where Hope walks into a house talks to someone so they will give them Pills to sell,an she goes back an ride while some sells go down,100,000 bond,then 15 yrs.Sure she needed a azzz cutting for talking to her Mother like that.But her Mother shouldnt have allowed it,she should have hung up in Hopes face.Slapped her down if she smarted off at her.When she first tried it.
LOL im 53,an my Mother 70 why even today she would fly on us if we jawed back at her.Mother said me ,an one of my younger sisters was like raising boys,she had her hands full.But you can bet,if we talked to her like that she busted our butts.
Then we see a man take a young teen an molest,or rape her try to strangle her with her panties.He got 5 yrs,puny yrs.,an got out to murder 2 other teens.But Mistys looking at 25/75 yrs.Its not right.Not for the few pills that was hers she sold.
I think the FBI should send a major Drug Task force to Putnam,an surrounding counties.An I also think all law imforcment dept in Putnam should be investigated.Including the court system,Judges,State funded Attornys,Next stop Crystal home town.Then St Johns.clean that mess up.!!!!!! Because somethings very worng in that part of Fla.
But i was watching the gangs in NY/NJ,other places Blood crips/others,like the ones who kill with machetties.All the killings,drug dealings.I just wondered why they send armies overseas.When we have wars going on in all the Major cities from Gangs. WHY wont the Goverment stop that bunch of PUNKS!! Many in the gangs are those from other countrys.Im thinking we have the Army/National Gaurd/Secret Services/A elite trains task group,that slip in an are specialy trained,to clean up groups like gangs,terriost,an such.Why cant the American Gov,stop those gangs.dRUGS HAVE TAKEN OVER AMERICA,AN WE WANT TO LOCK THESE LITTLE PEOPLE UP FOR LIFE,WHEN THE REAL DEALERS/KILLERS WALK FREE TODAY,AN EVERY DAY.wHY ARNT THEY GOING AFTER THE BIG BOYS!!!
for all those that were wondering earlier ~ amanda ashley tomlinson is the mother of the 2 yr old child found in the vehicle at the time of the arrest of mr. imms & co. the link is:
http://www.jacksonville.com the article title, “putnam sheriff stands by arrested son” printed by the florida times-union.
as far as hank & lisa staying away, they could have also been warned by mc & tc’s attorneys (although it seems someone should have told them previously), about the risk involved in talking about the case with their incarcerated children. they seem to try and be very generic at times in their past conversations (but some interesting things have come out along the way)…but the law does not provide any immunity for parents in regards to the crimes of their children. the 5th amendment only provides that you may not testify against a spouse, or in the event that your own testimony would incriminate yourself. therefore, and i’ve seen this first-hand, a parent who LE suspects may be privvy to info, or that LE sees actual proof of the parent’s knowledge (such as a letter, a taped phone call, or visit) can actually be charged and will be forced to testify against them.
its just one of many thoughts-but might be interesting to consider. not that i truly believe these parents would tell the truth on the stand anyway….lol…i mean why break precedent now, right? lol imo
Here is a previous PCSO arrest for meth. and it shows an even lower bail amount then Josh’s.
This guy would have been able to bail out for $500. Just FYI
RODNEY EUGENE MAY
Palatka , FL
Booking Date & Time: 1/27/2010 8:10:38 AM – Booking#: 10-00374
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 10/30/1974 – RACE: W – SEX: M
Charges Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
893.13-1a1 DRUGS-PRODUCE PRODUCE METHAMPHETAMINE F S $0.00
893.13-1a1 DRUGS-POSSESS POSS METH W INTENT TO SELL MANUFACTURE DELIVER F S $2,504.00
893.149-1a DRUGS-POSSESS LISTED CHEMICAL WIT MANUFACTURE CNTRL SUBS F S $2,504.00
$5,008.00
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758656&IMG=52129
Here is some other examples. I don’t see that Josh’s bond was set lower then the anyone else’s for similar charges.
Four Arrested after Narcotics Investigation Reveals Meth Lab
East Palatka – Four (4) Putnam County residents were arrested on January 3, 2010, as a result of a narcotics investigation conducted by members of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office Drug/Vice Unit.
Investigators conducted a search warrant, and located a clandestine methamphetamine lab inside a residence located at 129 Elsie Drive, in East Palatka. Also located in the residence were manufactured methamphetamine, chemicals used to manufacture methamphetamine, and paraphernalia used for smoking methamphetamine. Investigators also determined that Williams had removed the power meter from the residence in an attempt to divert electricity.
The owner of the residence, 46 year-old Tony Lee Williams, Williams’ 16 year-old daughter, 45 year-old Ralph Michael Smith, 41 year-old Wendy Marx, and 33 year-old Michelle Gibson were at the residence at the time the search warrant was executed. The four (4) adults were arrested on the following charges:
Tony Lee Williams, DOB: 01/19/1963
* Manufacture of methamphetamine
* Possession of methamphetamine with intent to sell.
* Possession of chemicals used to manufacture a cont. substance.
* Possession of drug paraphernalia
* Maintaining a drug dwelling
* Theft of electrical services
His bond was set at $4,520.00
Ralph Michael Smith, DOB: 3/6/1964
* Possession of chemicals used to manufacture a controlled substance.
* Violation of probation
* Contempt of court
His bond was set at $5,008.00
Wendy Charlene Marx, DOB: 10/28/1968
* Possession of chemicals used to
* manufacture a controlled substance.
Her bond was set at $2,504.00
Michelle Gibson, DOB: 05/25/1976
* Possession of chemicals used to
* manufacture a controlled substance.
* Gibson was also arrested on an active arrest warrant for violation of probation.
She was booked into the Putnam County Jail without the benefit of a bond.
http://www.pcso.us/2010-1-4-a
@jan ~ you are so right regarding the way justice in the united states is carried out. the bonds are never uniform, across the board, neither is the sentancing. what may breeze through in one jurisdiction, is reigned in harshly in another. also there are so many varietables in each crime (age, past criminal record, etc.). even with those varietables, you could take a case from, say florida, and lay it next to a case in california, all circumstances equal and the same, and they still would most likely be resolved differently because of the way our laws operate. seems confusing and unfair.
the way our system is set up is also the reason that the fbi cannot get involved in a case like this. the only time fbi enters the picture, is if it is a “federal” crime, or it has to do with crossing state lines while being committed. recently, the mayor of chicago
was in the news, because he is so fed-up with city-wide crime there, that he has asked for a “special consideration” that the gov’t send special forces in to walk the streets with weapons, and keep the order there. however, unless it is a national disaster, he won’t be able to get regular armed forces in there because of our nation’s laws. cudos to him for trying anyway…
Excellent post Jan. We all need to separate the difference of trying to help or enabling as parents. I thought I was helping turn my sons’ life around but I was only enabling him. I finally realized after 20 years it’s not my fault His Dad and I only tried to support him to get his life back on track. If anyone is going down this road seek help!!!!! Addicts have a way of putting their guilt on everyone else’s shoulders. They will lie and steal from you and act justified. My son was 40 years old before he did drugs and now he has the mind of a 10 year old. Lost a very good job and his family. Spends his time trying to out maneuver family and authorities. I pray that no one ever has to watch one of their children destroy their life and their childrens because of drugs. I pray all Meth labs will be destroyed. It’s a cheap high for addicts. Five years ago I knew nothing about drugs but I had to take a crash course to find out what I was dealing with. I see so much of this drug induced thinking in the Croslin family. My son is the only one in this family that chose to go down this road thank God. With the Croslins it seems to be a family plan. May God help them drugs seem to be a cross that some can’t bear.
Ron told Geraldo he disciplined his children in a manner approved by DCF. Today I saw HaLeigh’s bandaged hands in the video posted here and I am very upset that no one removed HaLeigh & Jr immediately from his home after this incident. If Ron burnt his child’s hands, he crossed the line and is a pathetic, heartless monster and I agree with ToCr that Ron was a “no count dad”. HaLeigh told her mother Crystal Ron was hitting them, but she, a woman who was physically abused by Ronald herself, didn’t feel the children’s were in any real danger. Apparently Ron gave Jr a fat lip and whipped him on his legs. A coworker of Ron’s overheard him tell Misty to whip HaLeigh to make her mind. I think Ron or Misty hurt HaLeigh Monday and she died from physical abuse. A child who has their hands burnt by a parent needs rescued, and Ron should have lost custody of his children after this incident. Why didn’t TN and AS intervene and protect these innocent children? I am disgusted with Ron and will never forgive him for burning his sweet daughter’s hands. Ron also beat Misty before their marriage and her parents turned a blind eye and allowed her to marry him. The amount of domestic violence Ron was allowed to inflict upon women and children is very disturbing. Dr. Lillian Glass claimed on Levi Page’s Show April 18th that the shape of HaLeigh’s face had changed because of the physical abuse she received from her father.
I thought the syndrome haleigh had caused her growth to be altered. No?
The arrest http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/05/06/news/news01.txt
Imates in Putnam 5/6/2010 http://public.pcso.us/jail/inmates.aspx
Inmates booked 5/7/2010 Harold Ray Tomlinson,an many more could Tomlinson be kin to the tomlinson woman arrested with the 4on 5/6/2010/Many more arrest,on the 7th just wonder if there was some snitching going on.
http://public.pcso.us/jail/inmates.aspx
Why would you need to have DCFS to conduct the way to punish your child if you weren’t out of control?
Yes, Turner’s Syndrome stunts her growth but it does not alter the shape of her face.
Dr. Lillian Glass suspects the shape of Haleigh’s face was altered by physical abuse. Burning a child’s hands is a heinous crime and I would not be at peace until I had rescued the children.
Some kids really meed a butt swat sometimes. But beating because you are mad is rons way.
Wow, I have no way of knowing more than a doctor but when she says she “suspects” gives me pause.
I hope that wasn’t the case and I really hope he didn’t burn her hands. Is there any tangible proof he did that?
I spy, I absolutely would not approve Ron or anyone else abusing a child.
But I have to ask where this came from??
Dr Glass needs to do her homework. Turner Syndrome can alter the shape of a face or head.
http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/turner-syndrome/DS01017.htm
Please study it yourself.
Haleigh’s hands have been reported that she accidentally turned the hot on and then stuck her hands in the water. It was minor damage. Where do you have info that Ron caused this??
jaba, where do you get that info?? There is no proof that Ron beat a child, ever. Why do you spread this stuff??
It has so disturbed me how many times bogus rumors are started based on no truth just to smear Ron. You can attack me if you want to but I would say the same thing if you had said this about Crystal.
Ron and Crystal have both done enough to talk about them but can’t we stay with the facts. Why just keep growing rumors and try to call them facts.
If these things are NOT true it is disrespectful to Haleigh and Jr to keep saying bad things have happened to them when it is not true.
Here are a few:
* Wide or web-like neck
* Receding or small lower jaw
* High, narrow roof of the mouth (palate)
* Low-set ears
* Low hairline at the back of the head
* Drooping eyelids
* Broad chest with widely spaced nipples
* Short hands
* Arms that turn outward at the elbows (cubitus valgus)
* Fingernails turned upward
* Swelling of the hands and feet, especially at birth
* Slightly smaller than average height at birth
* Delayed growth
I think Haleigh is absolutely beautiful. I am just saying that for a professional to say her face is altered from abuse and can’t be affected by Turner Syndrome is just flat bs.
I honestly believe that if the be could have been left out of this case it might very well be solved.
meant to say: if the bs could have been left out of this case it might very well be solved.
Haleigh deserves truth.
TRUTH FOR HALEIGH
TRUTH FOR HALEIGH
TRUTH FOR HALEIGH
Seeing her bandaged hands in that video was so sad – does anyone know what happened? That image just haunts me.
Well i like Hank,an Lisa.I texed them this evening,they didnt even know Hardys son,an others had been arrested.Or the difference in the bonds,which i told him he needed to call their lawyers,an let them know.
He should be in pain,he had a badly broken legs,that pins should have been removed from months back.His back was needing surgery,surgen ordered it,but Hank didnt get covered by insurence from the wreck.Because some one got away with not having insurence.We would be raising He!! if some one hit us,an we needed surgery,an work done.An the person wasnt being forced to pay for it,when they were in the wrong.
They did try for a few Jobs,His skill is dry wall work,his old boss wont hire him because of the coverage.They are both on probation,so they cant travel an work.someone sprayed Lisa in the face/eyes,how ugly was that!! when Hank got to the store they were gone.The man was in the hospital the night Haliegh went missing,or on the way home.An he an Lisa,couldnt have been involved.
To degrade someone who you dont know,who aviods media,most of the time,who turned NG down who truly need a lifting word from somone.In stead of being beaten further into the ground.It make me shame of how Americans act.Gods word speaks against gossipers,an busy bodies.An we look at others sins,pointing them out.WHEN IM SURE THERES NOT, A ONE OF US HERE WITHOUT SIN.
I keep in touch,because i like Him,an Lias,hes a streight talker.An no dad,wants to believe his children could be a part of something like this.Im not even sure they are.I have seen nothing that has caused me to believ shes in that river,show me fact,i want truth.Show me Haliegh,or one bone thats hers.
Gods word teaches me.Do dirty to someone ,you always reap what you sow,Do good,an you reap good. Hardy just is reaping for what they did with that dirty sing/drug bust.Hey if it hadnt involded state pills,i would have said more power to UC,but those pills almost the whole lot of them were state supplied.Dirty.
Hank,an Lisa are down,an sorry of many things in their life,as even i am.They would alwayes be welcome at my house.An i made the offer,so they could maybe find work,an Hank find a good DR here,at the Beach.But they cant do anything PROBATION ties them up.
With Jobs the way they are(hard to find) An all he has against him,shame.But im surly praying for them,as well as for Halieghs family.An Misty didnt steal,or fight her dad,Tommy did.I believe the dvd,Hank SR knew they didnt belong there,an he wanted to know where they came from.That most likly why Tommy jumped him.But he use to work,an work hard,feeding,his family, Lindsy,an her babies many a day.Im telling you the man talks to me alright,an Lisa is smart as a cricket,funny,even lifted my spirits on April fools day lol.This is bad for them,as its bad for Halieghs family,an i really feel for all of them
An see where each an every one had Junk in their past,But Todays a new day.
Hank did tell me 3 days after the car went missing,about the man ,who took it.He did say he was in a hurry,forgot something upstares,jumped out the car,an the guy had to be hanging around,whitnesses say he jumped in to Hanks car,an took off,when Hank came back down his car was gone..Hank was pizzed,he said that was dirty when he had givin,the guy a ride to the store before.LE did pick the car up,in another county,an arrested the guy.With a broken window,an trashed car.
I dont feel like hearing how could you talk to them.
Its my choice,an a good one,i believe.I know when im down,a kind word,always picks my spirit up.Make me feel better,just to know someone cares.
Jan, I think that was very sweet of you. I do not think they had anything to do with Haleigh being gone. It is also not Hanks fault that he was in the wreck with the drunk driver that caused his mess that led to him losing his job.
May God bless you for your kindness.
you know what *jan*~ you are absolutely right!! i have alot of sympathy for parents of prisoners. i have a young son in jail as we speak, for the very first time, no record whatsoever, and not guilty of what they accuse him of. hoping desperately that defense counsel can prove that. i have never been one to take a cheap shot~~but i definitely did take one in my earlier post. i would like to say to you, and to the croslin parents if they are reading, that i, for one, apologize. i know the horror involved with a child behind bars. i know how each day it feels as though we are “on hold” with our lives, just waiting for word on our children’s cases. so hard to move forward with the circumstances of an incarcerated child. and yes, i would feel very hurt if everyone were pointing the finger at me, the finger of blame, as if i chose the action my child did (or didn’t depending on the circumstances). i know i raised mine right. sometimes these things are unforeseeable. it is not fair for anyone to judge or condemn. it sounds like you are a good friend. when terrible things happen, we should all hope our good friends would stand by us and support us. thank you for listening.
I don’t hold it against you to talk to lisa and hank. No reason anyone should tread on your relationship. It may be very important and worthwhile to you.I hope that’s the case.
I do have a q’ though?
How long have you known them? And how sure are you that what you are being told is exactly how things are/were with them? It may all be true and I dont peg you for a fool by any means, but isn’t there a possibilty that what they have said may not be the way things are? Maybe not everything is embellished or maybe none of it is, I don’t know, just askin’
We dont know what happened to her hands,or did she just have them wrapped like that,with her little painted nails.I think those children looked taken care of,they looked healthy,fed,an Happy. I believe its all BS blowed out of porportion also.
Show me a link to burned hands,an cause,before i belive it.An Ron also looked like he kept up with their Holidays reading to Haliegh, fished with her.Egg colored did Christmas with them..A pictures worth a thousand words.An they looked happy,an taken car of!!!
Jan, have you wondered what kind of person the JB poster is? She spends weekdays posting here, instead of actually doing what her employer hired her to do.
Hopefully, one of her co-workers turns her in for stealing from her employer.
A quick check over the past days posts show her posting all of the mornings, taking a break around noon, then returning and posting the afternoon away.
She must leave her employers’ workplace around five, as that is when she stops posting here.
JB spends her day posting here, instead of working for her employer.
JB: Stealing from your employer’s pocket is no different than what Lisa or Tom Croslin did, JB, except you haven’t been caught.
You’re worried about Leonard buying a car for Lisa and Hank, and Lindsy, but not concerned about your employer giving money to a person who spends her time blogging here?
I think we look at people based on what we’ve been shown.
What I’ve seen portrayed through their (all of the clans) gives me pause to think there was a ton of wrong decisions made because of drugs.
I’m sure the family pain is genuine for all parties, but they have to be accountable for what they’ve done that lead us to today.
Sometimes people don’t want to, or pay attention to, the truth about their own actions.
well, *jaba* do you interview your own friends to this extent? have you investigated their backgrounds regularly to be sure THEY are telling you the absolute TRUTH about every single tiny fiber of their lives and beings before you “commit” yourself to a friendship with them? not trying to be a b***h, however, your questions above sound so accusatory. does anyone normally do this with their friends? stalk out their backgrounds to be sure they are telling you the truth? i bet alot of people don’t tell the full extent of the truth in every case, throughout their entire lives. by the time you’ve lived 40+ yrs. there may be certain things you are not so proud of, as a teen or maybe young adult, that you have learned from, put behind you, and moved on. would you think it fair to judge someone that you know & like now, because of a person they once were?~ imo ~ just seems an unfair ??? to ask.
Jason… that is not nice!
Gang go read this!!
http:/ /karmaouch. wordpress. com/donald-knop-good-
Jason,
How many people on this board and others are ‘multi-tasking at work? Porbably a lot. 🙂
Or maybe folks are laid off, or vacationing or wealthy enough not to work, or retired?
If you know something I’m missing let me know.
Stealing from your employer is not good, JB. Yes – posting here from around 8 am to 5 pm, when you’re supposed to be working for your employer, is not good. In fact – it is stealing.
JB, you have NO room to talk negative about the Croslins receiving anything free – you get free money every time you accept a check from your employer for the days you spent posting here.
Is anyone gonna read it?
Jaba, you may be missing the posts she has been writing for weeks, from early morning to what appears to be quitting time, around 5 pm.
‘Multi-tasking” at work can’t be done on this blog, because this is not her employers site.
Just calling it like it is!
@jason~ what, exactly does this have to do with the specific case(haleigh cummings) that is the subject of this page?????
If a person steals from their employer by spending most of everyday of the entire work week posting here, they are certainly not ethically or morally superior to the Croslins.
Don’t bash the Croslins when you’re no better, please!
BA I read it!
If you want a bit diversion… read my 12:06
What do you think about it BA?
Thanks Hope!! It makes you wonder why/how that abuse could/would be going on, with the pit-bull/attorney in that family.
Tcookie,
The reason I asked how long you have known them was to give me more context of your relationship so I can try to understand your comments better.
I have no idea how long you’ve been friends. Did you know them before all this crap over a year ago? That helps me understand how you form your comments. If you have known them a short time, yes, I would, as I did above, question your ability to judge how they are. Not mean spiritedly, I just want to know.
I’m sure, like you, thinks no one is perfect and people can change, no question, but I can go only on what I see, and offer my opion and ask questions on this board.
No I don’t nitty gritty question my friends becasue they have shown me over many years what their character is even when they have made mistakes. I would be better versed to speak about them from experience. That’s what I was trying to learn from you. Other than words they spoke today, how can you help me understand and believe them. That’s all the response was about from me.
You have a good point.
I have to be honest I am new to the “online” information regarding this case. I have tried to research to understand more about the “players” and I am even more confused then ever!
Jason,
It came out of left field to my eyes. I certainly understand your position better now. Thanks for expanding.
@jaba ~ oh, sorry if i created confusion with my post…actually i was asking you the question…which you answered nicely. but it is not i that posted as the friend of the croslins, it was *jan*. she would be the one to answer the actual questions of the relationship that you asked…
Hope, it’s all a mess and it has been since so many people inserted themselves in the mix. There are too many players to keep up with, but some of the old ones that are no longer “involved” have screwed it up with their hidden/selfish agendas. JMO
Jason,
I don’t think I can agree that all day blogging and the moral or ethical charcter of that person is lower or equal to what some of the croslins (more the ‘inside’ croslins than others) have done and may have done.
BA
You’re are right what a mess! I think people forget that this isn’t about “them” it is about Justice for Haleigh!
Y/W, Jaba, and thank you for explaining, too!
Jaba @ 12:36: All day on your employers money? If your employer hires you to work, is is ethical of you to instead post here?
Treece @ 10:56: I don’t see her face as mis-shapen, either.
tcookie,
I apologize for misdirecting the post. I’m glad my answers to Your post was received well.
You are right my post and thoughts were directed to Jan from her post. I understand better because I know its he but if she would care to answer, I’ll certainly read it.
I can see where jan would be emotionally attached to this and the folks invloved. I’m sure there are ups and downs to all of this plus trying to have a life has to be a little challenging at times.
Beautiful, writing syle and tone of the blog page reads like a Kim Piccazio commercial.
Tough on deadbeat dads: Kim Picazzio! IIRC, that’s been part of her reputation for a long time.
Who wrote the page?
Toughcookie,Judithan,To both of you .Im so sorry to hear about each of your children.Its really sad.Theres traps set for ours,an sometimes they are weak,an fall right into them.But it doesnt mean they are evil,or that they cant change.With help,love,an much praying.
Example There was a old drunk use to come to church every Sunday,for yrs,never said anything but came in loaded,an sat quitly.Some of the old self rightious busy bodies said,throw him out.But the Pastor who was truly a loving person,said nope,one day he will change.An he did ,He repented,an cleaned up real good.So we really have no right to say anything about what God has created, right,or wrong.W arnt their Judge.Now we do have laws of the land,all should abide by.But some just make mistakes,get caught up,an go to jail.Im not speaking of cold blooded murderers,or Men who harm/rape children.
I dont care what said we all love our own children,an sometimes just cant see whats right in from of us.Or we just keep hoping they will change on their own.Its no parents fault for loving their children.
When it gets to the point of LE getting involved.Only thing a parent can do is see that they get a fair trial.That the charges fit the crime.We as parents have to watch for Straight,verses none straight LE.
But for the ones that are straight up,its always good to sit down with them,an see if theres another plan,other than prison,that they may can help your child with..According to the crime/an offences.But if you know beyond a shadow of a doupt they are guilty.Then love them,pray for them,an let the time fit the crime.
We had one we went to a Judge an signed her into a rehad,(inhouse )she was grown but got strung out on pills,an didnt plan to get that way,her meds were dr perscribed.The Judge had her picked her up,said either go willing,or we will cuff you an roll you out.We told the Judge she may be a danger to her self,or others,an they jumped right on picking her up.
She clean today,living a decent life.I had a woman i knew ,not a friend but knew her in passing.I found out her son was stealing,got my son to invite him over,an prayed with him,read him what God says about paying back 7 times to the amount on every thing he stole.May pay back in health,in money,in some kind of loss,he would repay it.He started calling me,an hes stopped,now has a job doing great.
One i took in because his dad was on crack,an his mother never had anything to do with the boy.Shame isnt it.Hes getting his education,working.They wernt sending the boy to school,never any food in their house.I gave the man a choice,i told him he was grown,an could harm his self with drugs,but either i would call an report him,or he had to let me keep his son.I had known the boy about a yr,before taking him in.Hes now on his own doing good.
All we can do is love them ,show them what God says,an pray for them.Offer a listening ear,not a judgemental heart.I have found in my 53 yrs,that its works better than beating them down,or fussing at them.Because when we do that,we only get rebellious,or a puts that wall up,that we cant get through to them.An that doesnt help them,or us.Love is the key.
So i surly will keep both you an your children in prayer.aN EVERY DAY WE WAKE UP IS A NEW DAY,PAST,IS PAST,A PAGE TURNED IN OUR BOOK OF LIFE.No need to go back,always go forward.We all make mistakes,even in parenting.We have to get up when we fall,brush our selves off .An go another round.
Jason,
No, its in no way ethical. I guess I’m pointing out that my opinion of the level of ehtical or moral sorriness in the bloggers case doesn’t reach the level of the croslins. Imo.
The photo indicates HaLeigh’s hands were placed in scalding water. If HaLeigh fell onto her hands, more than likely she would have scraped one hand more than the other and would have only required a regular band aid. If she fell and broke a wrist or finger(s), she would have required a cast or a finger splint. HaLeigh wasn’t injured anywhere else on her body in this picture and both her hands were injured simultaneously. IMO, the manner in which both her hands are wrapped with clothe indicate they were burned.
cent ba, if Karma is a bitch when is KimPs coming to her?? LOL
That was an interesting find you had there.
@jaba 🙂 its all good…
@jan ~ thank you for your kind words and prayers. each day, and each child, are *blessings*
I Spy said,
in May 8th, 2010 at 1:08 am
The photo indicates HaLeigh’s hands were placed in scalding water.
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Are you here to start rumors or discuss a case? Where is a photo that indicates Haleigh’s hands were placed in scalding water. Please, why do this?? If her hands
were placed in scalding water don’t you think it would have burnt her fingers?? Why make crap up??
Could it be that she reached on top of the stove and burn her palms?
OK I am getting off this thread and I am not trying to pick on I Spy but I am seeing such an agenda of rumors.
Please read I SPYs post at 9:38 and 10:27.
Then please read my post at 10:45 and 10:54.
This is NOT a pro Ron or an anti Ron thing, this is just we need the truth.
Did Dr Lillian Glass really tell such false info about Turner Syndrome?
ISPY @ 1:08:
Her hands could have been wrapped for other reasons, such as for contact dermatitis. Where I live, it isn’t unusual for children to get poison Ivy/Oak on their hands.
Scratching poison Ivy/Oak can result in a infection; hands would have to be wrapped.
Im not emotional attatched,i just from experence of the media,when our 2 yr old was beaten to death,i learned no to listen to all i hear,an read.But to ask my own questions from the persons.
As to my knowing the Well It through long months of phone conversations.An them telling me things that happened before they were reported.I grew to trust them,an didnt betray their trust,nor would i unless it had to do with Halieghs.He has sent things to me such as paper work to verify things.Im a pretty good Judge of People,because i have been there,an done that.I know that life style,an mine now.When you deal with the rougher society as i have for yrs,
Going to many prisons,being in Murder trials,an working with many drug addicts helping them to get clean,in my own home.You learn people.Like those who go to school,learning paper work,an studies.Its bull most of it.Unless you get down on the nitty gritty with many walks of life,many people you never know them.It is my calling.An i love it.Dr L Glass watched body language,
I got to the heart,thats what i try to learn about people what kind of heart they have.I have learned that many of those in trouble,an down on their luck.Are so much better people heart wise ,than the self rightious ,judgemental people today.Many shoot straight with someone they can trust.An i can say now Hank,an Lisa dont have any they really can trust to share with,that wont betray their privicy issues.
So call it how ever you wish.I have spent my whole life dealing with people like this.An im not fooled easly.I always ask for proof.An if God blesses me,i hope someday soon i can bless them,if its just taking a trip,an feeding someone who may be hungry.Have you ever been in a position where you didnt know where your next meal was comming from.This storm,in their life, will pass them one day,but what we have said about them,if wrong.If we dont repent of it,then we will suffer for our cruelness,From God hands.
I think they have been broken enought,an ridiculed enough.My take on things,never have been a money thing,or wanting to tell their privite stuff,just a woman offering a friendly hand of friendship.They werent the parents of Haliegh,nor did they have control of either child,that household,or what went on there.Hank,an Lisa admit their mistakes,an past wrongs.
They are Just the parents of two children in trouble.I pray Jesus always gives me a heart of compassion,an love for my fellow man/woman/child.Running these grieving parent in the ground ,may build you up a bit,but in the long run,like i said we all reap what we sow,an God says he will judge us for every idle work we speak.
He says hes come to set the captive free,release those from bondage.To heal the broken hearted.To just love your neighbor (people) as you love your own self,how would you feel in their position,walk a mile in their shows.Do unto other/as you would have them do unto you.
When i start getting Nasty about people,i go back an read James chapter 3. God reminds me all i need to know about how poisonus a tounges can be when wagging.An i have to repent.
(shoes) lol not shows,thats what happens when t type to fast!!
Another rumor,about Halieghs Hands.
Show the link about the burns,or the link to the hospital where she was treated for burns.
I have been following this case from the start,an never have i ever heard about Ron scalding Halieghs hands.That video showing her wrapped hands has been out a long,long time.But this is the first bull ive heard about burnt hands.Kind of like the Rumor that Ronald beat Haliegh,in her face ,but Hospital shows she fell at school,on concret,when she was pushed.On the play ground.
@jan ~very wise words. so very sorry to hear about what happened to your 2 yr old…tragic, heartbreaking. i can only imagine how you made it through that. many prayers i’m sure. i so know what you mean re: the nitty gritty…i have lived with and through things most people cannot believe i survived. and its true, that once you’ve been through it, you have a much deeper sensitivity and awareness of what its about. and most people who do make their ways back out of those hardships, go on to help others through similar things as well. i always taught my children that no matter how little we had, we always had something to give to another who may be in more need than we, even if it was only our time (to help, to listen, to care). they have all 3 grown to be caring, compassionate people. thank you for sharing your outlook. its very positive. 🙂
Jan said,
in May 8th, 2010 at 2:32 am
When i start getting Nasty about people,i go back an read James chapter 3. God reminds me all i need to know about how poisonus a tounges can be when wagging.An i have to repent.
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Thank you Jan for the reminder. Sometimes I think I get so caught up in things I need to remember what the Bible tells us.
I appreciate that post jan, that’s the kind of context that shows me a lot more than without it, to be totally obvious.:)
Having said that, and with respect it seems as if your words show emotional attachment to not only H and L but many other fortunate people.
As I said before, I see and comment on what is available for me to read and try to figure out what is truth, what is fiction, and why it happened, and so on, and so on. Curiosity is a strong motivator. Add that with what has to be the most difficult situations in life, the loss of a child, and in the cases at hand in Florida that are so high profile it draws me in on an emotional level. I don’t think that is bad at all.
You provide this board for us to discuss on and its appreciated.
With that discussion, on such an awful situation with so many dishonest people involved, hurtful things will be said. More obvious stuff, huh?
Sage advice from you on remembering the thoughts and feelings of others who have been, or are, down.
The croslins do have two children in trouble with the law and they are in trouble with the law but I can only excuse so much. Good thing is, I’m not the final judge of anyone’s life, no one on the planet is, but we operate in a framework of laws and a system of fairness that is better than anywhere in the world, even with its own mistakes along the way. A lot of people will help H and L get their kids a fair trial.
While we can offer an ear, compassion, prayer and help for H and L and their past and desire to move forward in a better way, I can’t, and I’m sure that don’t mean jacks@@t to them and I wouldn’t expect it to, absolve them for the environment they rasied their kids in. I believe it had a very negative effect on their outcomes. If there is pain and guilt they feel, I think that is normal. As long as it doesn’t paralyze them from going forward, and being better for it, then that would be great news.
Pain is sometimes referred as weakness leaving the body and mind. The stronger and more solid the foundation in which kids grow up, gives them such a better chance at a good life all the way around.
All this is imho.
A couple of more things:
You being able and desiring to be close to folks such as you describe certainly gives you, Jan, a much shaprer look than we get. We operate from a tolerance of what we read and think is true or not on a given situation. Folks with first hand knowledge that aren’t able to share it certainly doesn’t make the total picture any clearer as you see it. That doesn’t mean anyone needs to break anyones confidence or privacy, but I’m sure you realize that what folks comment on is limited on the net, and not being at the scene, so to speak.
What ‘outsiders’ bring from afar and on face value, helps clear things up by offering plausible scenarios to be investigated by reporters or LE if its deemed worthy.
Ok, enough of me.:)
jABS, tHAT IS jAN BUT NOT jAN BARRETT.
Tough cookie,it was my sisters grand baby who was murdered.But i had kept him,an the other 3 at least 2 weekend out the month from birth.An that baby held my heart strings.Im so glad you felt you could share you situation with me.
Jada do not mistake me for Simons,(( Jan)).I forgot to put the 57 behind my name.I will change it so no one gets mistaken.
It sure is quiet about the river search,an their lab test.No arrest as of yet,for anyone.It looks like Halieghs dissapearence will never be solved.
Jason ,I couldnt comment on the person.I dont know them.i have never had any problems with that them.Nor do i know about their work habits.Ill hand it to you,you do speak your mind,no holding back.
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Simon,an Jan,i added 57 to my name,i forgot it .JUST LETTING YOU KNOW,SO AS TO NO CONFUSION.SO NO ONE WILL THINK IM USING 2 NAMES TO POST.
I know that I posted this yesterday or the day before.. I ask Haleigh’s Grandmother Teresa Neves, what the problem was with Haleigh’s hands and why they were wrapped in guaze.. “She stated: That Haleigh had a Bacterial Disease on her hands that was literally eating the flesh on her hands, and they had to be treated and kept covered”. That it was not caused by a plant, it was not just blisters.. Not from any injury nor was it a result of the Turners Syndrome.
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