Many Thanks Simon.

It is very frustrating. I wonder if LE is going to do more ground searches.

Tommy would like Lindsy to get him a PRESCRIPTION to a fishin’ magazine!

Priceless, Simon and Jan. That was worth the price of admission right there. Made my whole day! lol Seriously, I can’t thank you guys
enough for what you are doing with these tapes.

They are very illuminating as to exactly who these people are.

I am SO TIRED of listening to Lindsy talk about calling Art Harris or Nancy Grace to tell that Hank and Lisa didn’t pay her back. What does that have to do with HALEIGH CUMMINGS? Does she think Art is here to broadcast to the world her problems?

Do people even remember HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings anymore in all this drama that all these people create? It’s so frustrating how all these people care about is themselves!

*And I hope that Simon and Jan don’t take my frustration to mean that I don’t appreciate their efforts uploading all these tapes… because I sincerely do! It’s these PEOPLE that are my frustration. I really do appreciate all the time involved with the tapes, so thank you! 🙂

Thank you so much for putting these audios up for us…..If nothing else these are showing just what these peoples priorities are and they never did care for Haliegh…..Why would they??? its all about them…..Personally I find it rather sickening when Lindsy talks about her little babes in the context of them having little girlfrends and such..arent the little ones like 2 4 and 5 years old,,,shessssh……Lindsy is no better than anyone of the Croslins…She has lived with this man and knows his family well,,,,she has no qualms about the other vid, saying Tommy was on the “pills” 2 years before Halegh went missing,,so she left her own kds with that drugged up creep….and now she gets a tatoo with his name on it…I dont believe for a minute she is planning to walk away from him,,because she is an enabler, and she s codependant on him…..what a mess for those kids,,,is there any hope he will go away for a long, long time…no doubt Lindsy will fall for another drugged up creep and we might be hearng one of her kids is missing,,,what is it going to take for Lindsy to get out of the muck and mire she has brought her chldren into??????? Thanks again for these,,,,are there more????please.

Now that we have heard that Lindsy is possibly filing for divorce. Given the fact that Tommy mentioned if he didn’t have her and the kids to come home to when he gets out he would have done himself in. I wonder if he is under suicide watch.

Misty is eventually gonna have to wake up to the fact that she will go to prison and she will be alone. I see her parents just moving on and sad to say there is no one else that cares about her but G Hollars. jmo

Tobias – so true. Does G Hollars really care about her? I wonder. She will always have OJ’s glove 🙂

Tobias,so true….then they’ll talk and if i’d been Lindsey i’d have told tommy if he didn’t come clean i’d divorce him!

why the hello does she always laugh when he’s bashing her! she always says,thats so funny..what the hells funny?

MomMarine,as i always say,they’ll make lye soap out of all of em when they die,cause its all they do is lie!

ya know,if it wasn’t so serious it’d be funny,here she is asking for a tattoo and he’s all bent out of shape cuz a GUY will put it on her and then he says,wait till i get home then,no tattoo while i am here,so what now guys?
she’ll get a tattoo when she’s 80!lol

I’ll tell ya,if i hear him laugh one more time i will go to florida and knock the holy crap right out of ole mr. tommy!

right too Tobias but especially when he tells her she’d better not do nothing?? then he’ll laugh like he’s kidding!

rofl,a fishing magazine? i have heard it all now,he ain’t going to alcatraz dang! thats the only prison i know with water around!

right Tobias,I’d think more of her if she divorces him!!!

Could be that she did after he led LE to the boat ramp. She had to be furious unless she already knew he was involved and lied about where he was. Time will tell on that one .jmo

Why would they release Ron he was selling drugs and from all the lies,covering up and down right neglect he deserves to be right where he is too. jmo

Snodgrass has a court date now for july will he ever be put behind bars? I watch his docket and after all this time Icant believe how slow they are putting this SO behind bars.jmo

Could also be that he is dreaming about that night now that the drugs dont block it out.jmo

Thanks so much simon and all for the tapes.Its not a tattoo that tommy doesn’t want her getting with out him. its a piercing in a very private!! area. I’m personally tired of all there giggles and inuendos while a baby is missing. jmo

It in my opinion it is for their entertainment and they think the joke is on us. Not funny and since we arent in the publics eye as POS in jail and an enabler I find them even lower on the food chain(SLUGS) comes to mind.jmo

Thank you Armando , Simon and Jan for your time and efforts on these tapes and your dedication on this case. These people are the strangest bunch.jmo

Smoking weed is OK to Lindsy, Tom, Chelsea and Tim. No to pills, yes to alcohol and weed.

About Jay and Lisa staying with Lindsy, going to the beach with her:

Jay bought the Grand Theft Auto game for Austin.

Do you suppose Lindsy read that book and realized Tommy hasnt changed at all? And probably never will. I think that may have been part of it and the whole thing just blew up in her face too. After all these tapes she still believes in him and then the LDT and boat ramp hit the news. Bet she isnt laughing anymore. jmo

Listening to this tape is disgusting. Their mindset is out of the universe somewhere in the Land of Oz. What is so funny? Both Lindsey and Tommy laugh…carry on like everything is normal in their lives.

Both are so stupid they don’t know the difference between prescriptions and subscriptions….boy did I laugh at that one.

Poor baby can’t sleep….parents must be on a binge….he he he…LOL LOL both.

I’m trying to decipher which one is dummer than the other. It’s a toss up.

IMO their children should’ve been taken away from them ages ago….DCS should’ve stepped in a long time ago……negligence on their part.
Their language alone tells me that it’s normal to use the ‘F’ word as it’s a normal part of their speech habits. I expect their kids use it also.

Now we know that Lindsay has filed for divorce.. and if she thinks that clears her from what SHE KNOWS about Haleigh, she’s sadly mistaken.

Why hasn’t this wife of his….come down on his head for doing drugs and landing in jail?
IMO she is an enabler and lacking a brain too.

D E L I V E R A N C E….in full force.

Lindsy shows no respect to her in-laws or Flora Hollars.

Does anyone have any hope this case will ever be solved and these guilty people brought to justice? Tommy and Lindsey act like they are in junior high. I feel so sorry for their children.

I read somewhere both Lisa and Hank sr have already had their case heard and both are on probation, with drug tests , the whole nine yards…If they are back on drugs (if they ever quit) they will go to jail…We will probably hear about their next arrest n a couple of weeks..Then They can all have a famly reunion……Lindsy shows no respect, because she s not normal, imo,,she allowed herself and her kids to lve under the same roof with Lisa, the druggie thief, Hank sr druggie, Tommy, druggie thief and Nay Nay,,,ho, druggie and Lord knows what else,,,she fits somewhere n there…I havent figured out yet just where..but just the fact she had her kids n there amongst the den of hell,,I dont see her as mother teresa, as some have said…

Southernvagirl said,
in May 4th, 2010 at 4:15 pm

++++++++++++++++

That is true about Hank & Lisa both being on probation. Seems rather stupid in Lisa’s case given she was already ON probation. She should have had the two counts brought forward that were withheld (as long as she stayed out of trouble). Yet, she’s on probation again. What was the point?

You can read about both Hank & Lisa’s newest charges here:

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

Type in Croslin% and scroll down to

Lisa’s 12-22-2009 charge and Hank’s 11-24-2009 charge. If you look at the dockets, it describes the terms of the probation (drug testing, whether they can leave the county, etc)

Wow, these people are a class act. Although I feel bad for Lindsy for the s*it Tommy and his dirtbag family are putting her and her children through, I don’t think she is as innocent as she has tried to come across in the past. For one she covered for Tommy in the very begining which shows me she suspects something isn’t right. For two she has the control to protect her son from visiting his father in the jail but she insists on dragging him to almost all of her visits. I could care less if Tommy wants to see his kids, I wouldn’t expose my kids to that environment. Three, she uses the stuff he steals. If she was innocent she wouldn’t have allowed him to bring the stolen items into her home unless he had damn good proof that he had really purchased the stuff, which he didn’t. Sure she returned the items after he got caught the one time but that was out of fear of getting caught after a complete list of missing items was turned in to LE. She should have refused to allow any of the items to be brought into her home. Now she went to school and Tommy keeps telling her she wanted to go to school so she could work so she needs to find a job, he’s right. She doesn’t seem to want to hear it when he say’s it, she keeps blowing it off. She most likely had all of her schooling paid for due to the family being poor so she should get her ass in gear and get a damn job. I have no problem with people getting help while they are trying to get on their feet but I do have a problem when people make a career out of welfare. She has no money or is running out of money but she has money for her smokes. She is probably spending about $50 a week to support that nasty habbit, money she could use for her children.
I am also sick of hearing her complain about the Croslin kids breeders owing her money and she is going to tell Nancy Grace and Art Harris that they owe her money if they don’t pay her back. Duh moron you’re the one who loaned the money out knowing that they most likely wouldn’t have money to pay her back. Besides the money she is currently blowing is from Tommy’s job from last year so she really needs to get over it. I understand that she was in school last year but I know when I went back to college to further my career I was working and raising my kids as well as going to school full time so I don’t feel bad for her as far as that goes. Also Timmy helped them when he got his taxes back but you don’t hear that. God, right now she is living in her grandpa’s condo for free along with getting help from her family and most likely getting food stamps and other handouts from the state so life isn’t that frigin bad for her. Who gives a shit about the $400 dollars they owe her, go ahead and tell NG or AH about it. She will be lucky if they even mention it. It’s not like it’s a million bucks and it’s only going to proove how damn stupid she really is for giving them the money knowing they won’t be able to pay it back. They didn’t get all the earned income credit back from taxes so where in the heck did she think they would get money to pay her back. If the parents had any brains they would have claimed Misty as a dependent since she didn’t work and did live with them some of the time and no one else claimed her(unless Ron did). Hopefully by now she has gotten her rear in gear and has gotten a job even if it isn’t as a LPN right now. She needs to accept whatever work she can get until she gets a nursing position. It would look better for her if she showed she at least was trying and to prove she could be reliable. The lousy $3800.00(or whatever she got in taxes)isn’t really that much when you are raising three kids anyways so Tommy needs to shut his mouth about her blowing through the money so quick. Although he is right about her going to MA, she should have frigin waited until she was on her feet. It just goes to show you that she doesn’t have a clue about priorities. Someone said earlier that plane tickets are @ $400 for a adult and half of that for a child, it’s actually more than that now. Children are not much cheaper than a adult due to them needing a full seat like an adult. Children under 2 are free if they sit on a parents lap, there are only a few fee’s for them otherwise it’s not much of a difference. I don’t know why she stayed in a hotel if they were going to visit Timmy…kind of weird.
I don’t mean to pick on Lindsy but I am getting kind of tired of hearing how innocent poor Lindsy/Lindsay/Linsey(however she is spelling it now)is. The whole damn family is screwed up, every last one of them. Glad to hear she is divorcing Tommy but my guess is she is doing it b/c she has most likely found another guy or has her eye on one. She has gotten a lot cockier over the last couple of months and I feel he sensed he was losing her and you can also tell she likes teasing him and making him wonder. Like the tongue peircing she claims she was going to get and the reaction she got from him when she said she was getting it done. Everyone knows why people get them and it isn’t so they can wear a pretty earring, lol. A tongue ring should really help her find a proffesional job, stupid. She knows she is being recorded and still says stupid shit thinking she is cute. I guess it’s all of the stuff put together that has made me realize she isn’t much better than the rest of the clan. Oh well, guess it’s true when people say you can’t fix stupid, lol.

Great post Loserville. Like Judge Judy says Beauty fades stupid is forever. LOL

Maybe Tommy can get a Thug hugging girlfriend like Ron has now that Lindsy is divorcing him.
And speaking of Ron why doesnt Putnam release his phone calls or is he sitting there in jail washing his boxers out and reading the bible and not communicating with anyone now. He knows he has to stay out of the public eye. We arent that easily manipulated as 17 year old girls are though. jmo

I am sick of these people. All Tommy can say is the ‘F’word.

Lindsy did not file for divorce for the ususal reason – she did it to get financial assistance. That much is clear to me now.

Thanks for the many hours spent getting these tapes to us, Simon and Jan.

Tommy may not be able to sleep because he is facing that LDT, and he knows he is going to fail. He knows he will probably lose LC and the children, when everything comes out. I do belive LC know some things, but I don’t thinks she knows even half of what went on. Something tells me that Chelsea is in on things more than LC.

That remark LC made about ToC’s parent not contributing to society, anyway, shows how tired she is getting of that whole family.

I think LC keeps mentioning talking to NG and Art Harris, because she really feels the need to tell people her side of this story. She is tired of keeping that family’s dirty little secrets. I look for her to come out and talk to the public soon. LC isn’t perfect, but she is so young, too with a mess on her hands.

I wonder if she will continue to take the children to see him, now that she has filed for divorce. I hope she stays away or she will get sucked right back into his web.

I asked AH to ask GGma Hollar about Tommy’s and Joe’s tempers and their tendencies toward violence. GGma Hollar said she never was close to Tommy because he was too much like Hank, Sr., and I asked him to ask her to go into more detail about what that means.

Simon & Jan, Thank You so much for all the updates and audios! Thank you so much for taking time out of your busy work schedule to keep reporting on the Haleigh Case!
I know it must be very hard after working all day. You are truly appreciated!

I would also like to extend my gratitude to Armando…(Hope I got the name right)! For taking the time to go pick up the tapes, working the long hours uploading these Videos, and sharing the updates from the search of the St.John’s River.

Jason:
You are probably right about that, but I do think LC found out alot of things after that failed LDT and the search that she couldn’t stomach. I think she doesn’t think weed is so bad, but she really doesn’t like all of the drugging life-style. I think she was raised better than that, and she will go back to being more in line with the way she was raised.

dixie123:
That is on the art harris site at the very end of the first article on his site. You have to click on to the read more of that article and go all the way to the end of it.

As for Tommy’s involvement in HaLeigh’s disappearance, all we really know is what Flora Hollars said that Tommy and Misty told her. I don’t think Flora Hollars is a liar but I do think that she is a confused woman. There is a letter from her granddaughter Kayla, Joe Overstreet’s sister, that you should read before you go too far with what she says—

(I’ll post the link separately so that this can post without pending link check.)

THE LETTER #1
I am Joe Overstreet’s sister, granddaughter of Flora Hollars. Before yall go and start believing all these stories that Joe had something to do with Haleigh yall need to relize who’s stories has changed everytime they have talk to someone..Now my Grandmother want to get involved yall can’t believe her either she is just out to try and get some money out of people..She is already receiving money from alot of people in Florida that is the only reason she is talking..One minute she will tell Joe that she knows he didn’t do it then turn around and tell Misty and Tommy the same thing..Joe is innocent,he had nothing to do with this..He was on vacation and was planned to leave on Feb. 10 2009 just as he did.. He did not just up and leave he talk to the police before he left..Misty and Tommy and also my grandmother is crazy..Before the law believes anything that my grandmother Flora Hollars say they need to do a drug test on her to make sure she is not doped up and knows what she is talking about… She is only out to try and get a reward… She will change her story just as much as Tommy and Misty will..My brother was just in the wrong place at the wrong time..He is a good guy. Tommy and Misty just thinks they will get a plea if they try and blame it on someone else..And also if Tommy made the call to my Grandmother that him and Joe had done that to Haleigh why was that phone call not recorded all the rest of them are..I would not put it past my grandmother to make something like that up..She is a very selfish lady that is just out for money and attention…

Simon, were you able to tell who Tommy was talking about with Eddie? He mentioned someone being in the car with Lyndsey? Asked when she would be going home? The other inmate calls her LULU now since they want to keep the name secret. TIA

What I heard…we all hear things a little different. LOL

Tommy said he has not slept in 2 days, back hurts and the mattress is uncomfortable. 14 days until his next court day, I assume he is talking about March 31ST court date. Complains that he is so tired.

Tells Lyndsey she really looks good today. She says his hair looks really good.
Lyndsey said that Chelsea and Tim have tried calling Hank and Lisa but they will not answer the phone or text. Lyndsey has been trying to call as well and they won’t take her calls/text either. She said they call Nanny, but will not take anybody else’s calls. Lynsey said she wrote them a nasty letter,says that she told them it sucks that she can’t depend on her, especially with her driving out there in the van with the kids.

Lynsey tells Tommy that Lisa (her friend) is the one that has been helping her watch the kids.

Tommy said his parents are not taking his calls either. He wonders what is up with his parents. He said they must be getting high or on a binge. Says they must be messing with that Ch*t again. She said she doesn’t know what the deal is, nobody can get in touch with them. That they need to pay her the money they owe her so he can get some more money

Tommy says it must suck for Misty not getting visits or calls from Hank and Lisa.

Lyndsey tells him about her friend Lisa getting her tongue pierced. Tommy tells Lindsy she better not get any piercing because it’s uncalled for. It’s stupid. Lindsy ask why over and over…sounds as if she already got something pierce. He then tells her to wait until he comes home.

Tommy tells Lynsey he got the pictures and letters but only read the one. Said Layla looks cute, but Lynsey can send him some better ones. She asked him if he saw the new bed spread he said it’s cute. She asked again about the pictures and he says she could send better ones..then he said he loves them. He tells her he was hoping she came that night so that he could see Austin, but she is going to a t-ball game.

Lindsey threatens to call Art Harris, to tell him some juicy info about Hank and Lisa, that they borrowed money, that they (cut?), could not tell what she said because Tommy interrupted her and told her not to do that. Lynsey says NAG would love to hear about since she has nothing else to report at this time.

Lyndsey said she was to call Steven Brown and Tommy’s attorney that day as well. That he mother told her that Tommy would not be a candidate for drug court. He says he didn’t sell no F*N drugs anyway.
The video didn’t show anything and his attorney is trying to get another video to see what it shows. Tommy said he didn’t’t sell any drugs, that they were not his drugs. Then says, if you think about it they weren’t ’t mine he says.
Tommy tells Lyndsey that he will probably get 18months…most 3 yrs, but his attorney feels he may only get 18 months. Tommy hopes he doesn’t have to do 36 months.

Tommy says I wish I could Tell you…Lyndsey says…I know, you don’t have to tell me anything.

Lyndsey tells him that Sharon will be coming to visit Tommy from out of town the week she is in MA or on his court date.

Lyndsey tells Tommy not to let his parents come visit him because they will waste her minutes, he says OK he will not come out of his cell since she is not coming until Thursday. Tells-him that she is taking spin classes and goes to the gym.

Tommy tells her he needs more money for Canteen, Lyndsey tells him he must owe some people some money in there.He talks about how they will charge him $10.00 for taking care of his tooth. (I wish that is all I had to pay.) And how much pain he is in…looks like he must be having some with drawls, back pains, tooth pains, can’t sleep….

Lyndsey wants Tommy to ask to be moved to Flaglar county.

The start talking about Hank and Lisa again, wonder why they are not taking anyone’s calls. Only Nanny’s (Hollars).

Tommy says that he feels that his parents are messing with that ch*t again and feels that is why they are avoiding everybody.

Lindsy talks about being over at her mother’s house, kids rode the horse and how she feed him chicken noodle soup, but she did not ride him.

Tommy slips and says someones name (the name is redacted), it is someone that is in the car watching the kids..not the friend Lisa though. Another inmate asked about her and told Tommy to have her come in and visit. Lyndsey says something about not being able to since she is from out of state?
Hmmm. I wonder who the SHE is? Sounds as if Chelsea was in town during this time IMO. Tommy slipped and said “A” name, said she (?) was in the car watching the kids that day. Lynsey tells him not to say her name because she will have to hear about it on NAG since Chelsea was going to be on NAG. Who ever it was that was there Lynsey didn’t want her name mention because she didn’t want it coming out. He asked when the “she” was leaving and Lyndsey said probably before she leaves for MA.

I wonder…Was Chelsea was in Florida, I wonder if Timmy came also? Maybe that is why Lyndsey went to MA, to drive Chelsea and Timmy back? I wonder why Chelsea needed to come to FL? I wonder if LE knew she was there? Did Chelsea come back to make sure something wasn’t found? Take care of some unfinished business? Did Misty and Chelsea have a plan in case Misty ever ended up in jail? Hmmm…my hinky meter is real high!

Lyndsey says the kids are having a hard time dealing with Tommy being in jail.
Lyndsey says that she will move to what ever county the prison is in so she can be closer to to him.

Tommy says that he misses the kids and that is why he wishes he was just put in prison because at least he would be able to see the kids.

Lyndsey tells him that Sharon and Dustin will be moving to Florida.

Lyndsey asked him if she can send him a book on recover for addiction, but he wants her to sign him up for some fishing magazines so he can get received some magazines.
The other inmate tells him the only thing he catches when he goes fishing is a buzz…Tommy laughs.
Lyndsey talks more about he book how another lady recommended it because she lost a nephew due to drug OD. Tommy says to go on-line and try and get the book store to send it.
He asked her how this lady contacted her, Lynsey tells him that the lady got the phone number from the T.V. she is from Maryland and she is really nice. Tommy gets pi-st, says there are nuts out there with their phone number and says that it’s not right to publish their numbers like that, he sounds worried.

Jason:

What you and Tobias are saying has a point. She is getting ready to break loose, that;s for sure. LC was very young and foolish, and we will see what she does on her own, without Tommy, now.

Dumb isnt the word for someone who has 3 kids by the age of 23 to a drug addicted loser. Those kids are lucky they were born healthy. Tommy claims to have been on the pills for 2 years but I think its really more like 4 if you go back in the records they lived in Flagler when she filed domestic abuse on him annd she wasnt yet married to him. The oldest boy was born before they got married and Tommy had charges of non support against him by her, yet she married him GO FIGURE. JMO

I don’t know what exactly happened becasue I wasn’t there nor do we have video/audio, other than the shaky 911 call, but I do believe, with all the good and bad evidence, she knows what happened.

We know misty isn’t innocent of drug trafficking, we can see that with our own eyes.

We know she has failed polygraphs for some reason.

And why would LE want to hammer misty for less than ethical reasons? Why not tommy, why not ron, they’ve had more trouble in the past from those two than misty.

9 more days I wonder if Tommy is sleeping now?
And yes if you sit around doing nothing all day but eating honey buns and chips you arent going to sleep very well. I hope if he is involved that he has nightmares and the rest of them too. jmo

Cakra and Southern,I am fed up with the whining too,the giggles,Lindsey is pure dang childish,like art wants what she knows,lol almost funny,i can’t take those 2 giggling and i love u in every sentence!no matter what he says….

Jason said,in May 4th, 2010 at 3:54 pm Lindsy shows no respect to her in-laws or Flora Hollars.

I agree Jason,all these damn ppl lined up to get what they could and now biting the hand tthat fed them when they had not a cent between all of em together!

MADJGNLAW said,in May 4th, 2010 at 5:46 pm

now he has dogged his parents who btw “will be all he has when Lindsey divorces his sorry ass! Sorry guys but it gets to me!

MADJGNLAW said,in May 4th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
btw great post!

I could hug you Tobias,lol AMEN!

Tobias @ 6:51 pm: Good post!

I can’t believe Liindsey and tommy,i did have some faith in Lindsey atleast but i dunno now,she’s just childish..imoho

Cathy, If this happened to any one of us you can bet that money would not be going for $90 bed linens,phone cards, commisary,or tatoos.
We would spend it on bills and food, make it last as long as we could. I sure wouldnt be broadcasting any of the things she is when she knows people are listening. UNLESS SHE WANTS MONEY.AND ITS TAX FREE UNDECLAIRED TO ASSISTANCE MONEY. PEOPLE PLEASE DONT BE TAKEN BY THEM DONT SEND MONEY TO PEOPLE CASHING IN ON HALEIGH. JMO

tobia,i’d bet all i own today if tommy were cleared(yea right) lol but anyhoo and went home,he’d be on pills tonight! he ain’t sorry for a dang thang!

he’d make a damn good argument for birth control!jmo

Does anybody think LE will be making arrests before Ron and Tommy go to court on the 13th?

honey i pray no one sends them a dang thing,time to make them sweat,its been a game from day one with these people,Tobias the day my husband passed i had 113 bux to my name….no insurance whatsoever..he’d been disabled a few weeks before and had no job,left our home cause i couldn’t pay for it…..lindsey has it alot better than that!and i’d say TOM you put yourself here and our kids aint suffering for you anymore!Thats what a decent mom would do Tobias,me and you would i’d bet on!

Miss Betty, I think some will be talking as much as they can since Hope got 15 and Tommy got served papers.jmo

LOL CathyJo @ 6:57 pm: Have him join in – share the computer with him.

Karon,thats how i felt,his little face was well,i dunno.almost blank but yet something i can’t pinpoint! so sad!

Jason,I will before long,he’s been so depressed ya know,theres 2 sides to every story but he loves her so much but like tommy,she’d rather have a pill down her throat and him working 2 jobs to enable the habit,sad!

Karon @ 7:02: I agree, and I’m afraid Austin is feeling responsible for helping his mother. Emotional incest is what I see. They’re letting him be concerned about their problems.

CathyJo said: “before it was I won’t do nothing ever again, now he’ll drink and smoke a joint”.

Uh-huh!

But hey Lindsy says its okay its legal to drink so its okay. He cant stay with her either she will enable his behavior. Its better for both of them to be apart. imho

CathyJo @ 7:11 pm: Austin’s face is full of worry. He’s a child worried about his mother because his mother behaves like a child instead of an adult parent.

OMG,Exactltly Tobias,b/c he can’t get a pill!
its like drag em down with me.shewww

He was served on the 30th but nothing final on the docket. She filed on the 29th I believe.
I bet he refuses to sign it and she has to go to court. jmo

They just make me sick… why would she tell NG & Art about them not paying her back? She is liking her new-found celebrity status.

Tobias,i swear i thought i’d just cam over when she said that!!!!! she’s an enabler and its sad! those poor little babies!

Heya Adams,

I am mad about it too,pure stupidity!

oh ok,ty Tobias,you said maybe it was financial so i thought,omg they have it planned!she’ll be dumb enough to take him back!

if anything Tobias,alcohol should be illegal!

exactly right Jason! Me too! absolutely!!

Lindsy is a LPN she had to take courses in all this to be a nurse, she knows what addiction is and she doesnt care. I dont think Tommy had any control over her she is too out spoken for that. She just did what she wanted and let him do what he wanted. Now that its out for everyone to see its now different because it ruins her life. Everyone felt sorry for her but she could have walked away along time ago, her family has money they would have helped her leave if she wanted to. jmo

right Tobias,i ASSUME her parents have no love for Tommy,lol right??? i never heard them mentioned till today!

Thank you for the tapes… I truly think Lindsy is no better than the rest of this clan… I posted earlier, I think she is incredibly narcissistic, they talk more about a piercing than their son’s t-ball game….. Lindsy seems to have a real attachment to NG and AH, wanting to make sure her tattoo will show well on camera….. and several times of I/this will be on NG or telling TC she will call AH to get her money?? or more appropriately attention….. and of course the never ending yawns from this lazy … beyond lazy bunch.. Lindsy has to roll out of bed at 830am after her 5 yr old gets himself fed and dressed…..and”mom” is way too tired to do anything else…….. they truly make me beyond crazy.

I hope to god NG and AH will not give her or any of these people any more of a forum on television…. obviously that is all they want…..more attention and a “Lindsy Bombshell”….here’s a thought, try taking care of your children, since she doesn’t have to work……nor does she contribute anymore to society than her in-laws… a welfare woman with 3 children…… husband in jail..(trying to act like a celebrity).and a precious child HaLeigh no longer living. PLEASE Lindsy… focus a bit more on your kids, rather than trying to be the CNN Headline news……. beyond pathetic.

Perhaps I am most disappointed in myself, because I haven’t a clue of what to do…. and my heart aches for the children stuck with these lunatics….

If LE was only after Misty and Tommy they had them on Tape with the UC before Ron and Hope ever entered the drug deals. Look back at the incident report dates. Ron and Hope got involved later in the deals. jmo

Tommy is romancing the drugs and the lifestyle bigtime. Cathyjo your right he would be right back at it if he was out. how pathetic that he isn’t taking the time in jail away from his kids and family to realize whats important in life. It made me sick when he wanted Linsey to have a bottle of liquor waiting. I hope he is in jail a long time

bingo jason,Grand parents.my goodness!

omg Chak,its all i could do not to bawl!

yesterday the audio tommy said,lindsey make joe pay his part and something to the effect of not bugging hank about it buttttttttt today he thinks theyre getting high and he’s telling her to make them pay cuz he needs it??? ya know,boils my blood!

If Lyndsey is an LPN, what was she going to class for the night Haleigh went missing?

lol Judith,you said it! until he told the truth i wouldn’t even bring his kids to the jail to see him!

i don’t even think “one flew over the cuckoos nest tops this!

me too Cathyjo, He is sittin in his little cell tryin to control everything AND still have money for his honeybun account!!!

She said,didn’t you like my pix? good grief!
Remember when Hank said before that Lindsey would move to the next man,i guess he was right,lol which i don’t blame her for divorcing him but a bit soon to move on!

Tobias @ 7:57 pm: LOL! I see what you mean. Her YouTube channel is a sure give-away, too! Plastered with a background of a repeating image of herself, in addition to re-posts of jail house videos of her and Tom (originally posted her at BNN by Simon) another media video of just herself, and one with her and Tom.

If Simon had posted images with the audio of the last few days, she probably would have those posted on her YouTube channel by now!

its pathetic Chakra,
worries about his dog though!

Jason,not even death changes that..you’re right!

I just have to think that there is some motivation for the divorce either that or she found out something pretty bad regarding Tommy’s involvement in Haleigh that we don’t know yet

who knows what she could have found in her own house,she was working the night Haleigh went missing wasn’t she??? i may be wriong,lol!

Jason I can not find these YouTube posts….Where are they? What are they under?Please and Thank you!

ya CathyJo she left that out of the NG and art harris BOMBSHELL LOL LOL

Question said,in May 4th, 2010 at 8:22 pm So….
Ive never had 3 bills the same amt in my life,lol

Chakra,Invision it now……70 yrs old,maybe by then,lol and media will no doubt be there,lol

Thats true Judith!

JenM, Consumer laws don’t permit creditors to broadcast debts to strangers.

Doesn’t matter whether Tom and Lisa borrowed $10 or $10,000 – it’s illegal for a commercial lender to do what Lindsy wishes NG/LP would do.

She lent her homeless in-laws a few hundred bucks from their son’s tax refund a couple months ago, and they haven’t her back.

Now she seeks revenge on her in-laws by having Nancy Grace and Leonard Padilla criticize them on nationwide television because they ‘owe’ Lindsy.

Leonard, my in-laws owe me money! Marlaina, pick-up! I have some ‘juice’ on my in-laws!

Oj,one stole a hundred dollar bill out of my purse in the hospital when i lost my baby at that………..careless!

BOMBSHELL!

Lisa and Hank, a homeless couple from Florida, borrowed money a couple months ago and have not paid it back on time!

BOMBSHELL!

Lindsy, there’s a reason banks don’t lend money to homeless people who don’t have jobs.

Just sayin’.

rofl@Jason……like its the first time,rofl

come on lyndsy..their dead broke, of course they can’t pay you back! But you have a softtouch grandpa you can rely on as a safety net..that got zip and are lookin at time.
You revealed your nasty side wanting to EMBARASS them on NG, like their names aren’t already mud.. Your a BEYOTCH!

lol oj,just before that she says,I can’t count on em to keep the kids when i come here and then wants to hang them!

I can’t stand it when ppl say something happened to their chiild in others care and then ask em to babysit……….foolish!

stilllucy @ 8:23; In addition to the comments on her YouTube channel, you can read what she left on channels of people who left comments on her channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/LindsyLPN

haha! all of DM media appearences the last couple days, not mentioning Caylee and talking about himself made someone mad! I didn’t even notice when i watched him on insessions friday that he didn’t even mention the victims name of the case he’s supposed to be blogging about–he was on national TV at the expense of a murdered child and never even mentioned her name?? he has lost credibility!

I am ashamed to say that I am a poster–until today, that is.

http://thenewdaymare.blogspot.com/2010/05/marinade-dave-your-goose-is-cooked-care.html

tommy is a control freak and if his wife has any sense, she will divorce and never look back. what trash!

I am amazed that everyone sits and listens to conversations between Lindsy and Tommy and then critisize the subjects they talk about. What would you talk about if you knew every word you said was being listened to and disected by complete strangers. I am sure there are many things they would like to discuss but can’t because their attorney has advised them not to, or because they feel awkward sharing anything that they do not want to be broadcast on the national news.

Maybe Lindsy’s giggle, which irritates some of you, is because she feels awkward knowing she can’t speak freely and that every word that comes out of her mouth is being judged.

I think the reason LE has not charged anyone in this case is because they know that under Florida’s Sunshine Law (which I think is a very big mistake) they would have to release all evidence to the media. I am sure they know exactly what happened to HaLeigh and are just sealing the fate of whoever is responsible by gathering as much evidence as possible without being forced to share it with a nation full of voyuers.

Sorry, but listening to Tommy and Lindsy is not going to solve the HaLeigh case. While Tommy is doing a pretty good job convicting himself on the drug charges, anything he says about HaLeigh will be redacted long before the tapes are released, so what is the real purpose of listening to the tapes. Cheap entertainment at the expense of Lindsy and her children?

OJ @ 8:40 pm: Good post!

Ann

Amen, God Bless America……..

Justice for HaLeigh

I didn’t have time to read all the comments, but one thing I caught was Tommy saying he did coke and snorted pills (one thing they do is crush up adhd meds and narcotics and stuff and snort it for a faster high) and it sounded like Lyndsay didn’t know he was doing everything and for as long as he claimed.

It goes to show by him wanting to move the the town that was like Amsterdam, and his words that he is not going to stop smoking pot and prob. won’t quit anything else. Oh, ya – also because he said he is hurting from jonesing and dreaming of pills. I really think at this point Lyndsay is fishing for info and dirt and will use it against them all soon for her own gain. She is smart, but for some reason lets him boss her around, which is probably why she wasn’t strong enough to leave him before. I hope she gets some supportive friends because she sounds like such a nice caring person besides all the drama from her husband etc. I hope she takes a stand and makes it a good one!

I personally get tired of them acting like the pills are bad. IT IS NOT THE PILLS! It is the person. These meds are so beneficial to people that do not have addictive personalities, that I know as a cancer patient, many people who would have died without them and who will need them for the rest of their lives. If you have an addictive personality, they try to not put you on them, which is why they are to have a psychological screening every now and then, but depending on the doctor, they may not care because they may be flat out a bad doc. That should not make the docs who are out there saving lives put in a bad light at all. Nor, should it put these pills or people who take them in a bad light, as I said it is the person who makes it bad. Like a gun or anything else with potential danger, you have to be responsible, if you are not, don’t limit my ability to have whatever it is, just because you are stupid. To each his own consequences.

I see the entire family want to blame everyone for their demise – the cops are why I am in jail, the docs are why I had all these meds (I wonder who shoved them down his clacker?), the guy who hit me is why I can’t be off them, the wreck is why I can’t work (but they might be partying as per lyndsay and tommy saying since they aren’t answering the phone they are doping it up), and everything is everyone else’s fault! Well, with an attitude like that, you will never get anywhere anyway.

Another thing I noticed is Misty is writing tommy but he is not getting the letters, are those purvey to the sunshine laws to be released?

I wonder if she is trying to give him hints as to their story, but also if she is saying he is guilty of something, why write him?

I still want to know what Hope was saying they were all so many steps ahead of the cops, and they were all to plead the same way – ROFL – I don’t think anyone wants to plead like her…. imo

ugh

someone asked why listen to these, as it is mean or something, well I think we like to get all the information we can about this case and for many reasons. Some people might be studying psychology, ethics, culture, the drug war and the war on doctors, law enforcement, legal aspects, and so on, some may like to try to solve crimes and are interested in it or volunteer as a websleuth or whatever, and some people learn about themselves through reality in the media, it is enlightening and really can show all sides of America, which some people bury their heads to regularly. They go to work, come home, live their cushy life and don’t realize how some people live or are forced to as children.

If we are aware of these issues in our country, we are more able to help solve the problems facing our children and families as well as women who may be somewhat stuck in relationships who need to know how to get out, but to fix it, you have to understand it and to understand it, you truly have to “go there” in order to “get it”.

This is also released as it is legally allowed to be and that law is for a reason. All people involved know full well they are being recorded and it will be released. If they don’t want to be released, don’t go on tape. That was what Cindy and George decided to do. They have used this platform as they use or leach from every resource they come in contact with in their lives because it is how they have got by, and how they have survived. They have gotten nearly bailed out free, got a free car, got commissary money, got friends – like ron’s new gf and the lady lyndsay talks to, they have got money for phones, a place to move to, lyndsay is thinking of getting money for her stories and so on.

THIS IS THEIR MARKETING AND ADVERTISING PLATFORM AND THEY USE IT WELL!

One other thing I noticed on one of these is that LP has sent three hundred dollars to which did not go to the cell phones as it was supposed to, so what did ma and pa spend that on, I would be asking for receipts if I was LP!!!

THANK YOU for the posts Simon and Jan! :0) Have a wonderful night everyone – hug a friend today, they are precious. 🙂

beautifully put Ann!

Jason, please tell me where I said anything about laws permitting creditors to broadcast debt to strangers? Commercial lenders? I don’t even know what you are referring to. Where did you come up with that?

Maybe Lyndsy wants LP to see that he needs to stop giving Hank and Lisa money. They are taking his money, her money, etc. and they are still broke. Actually, they probably thought that Tommy’s half of the money should be theirs, since he’s in the slammer. They probably don’t like her much anymore because she has nothing nice to say about Tommy or Misty. She will probably never get paid back.

Chromedaffodils, excellent post! I agree.

JenM, A long list could be made of what we heard her say she likes and doesn’t like about Tom – LOL!

Lol – the first time I saw his eyes roll, I wondered if they were drugging him deliberately with a high dose of something to get him to loosen up and talk.

What is up with his eyes?

Does anyone know for fact if Padilla is giving the Croslin’s any money other than topping up their phones to receive calls from the jail birds Misty and Tommy?
Ron told his new Female friend that he wasn’t making any calls to family, didn’t want to put that on them. But, he is writing them. Was on 1 of the tapes.

A fox smells its own ridiculous hole first.

I guess instead of talking about drugs, plans, dog obedience they could talk about haleigh, or his own kids welfare, his side of the haleigh story, for the whole time he is permitted to talk. That wouldn’t give anyone much to talk about negatively. Maybe if he did, the talk would be positive.

They were much older video’s. Sor – don’t have a link for you. Maybe just go through the archives.

It would be nice to have them all gathered to one place. But I don’t think these even come with dates.

the florida government and LE want misty DEAD!!
They have LIED, SET UP, ENTRAPPED, PLANTED EVIDENCE and other vile things to FRAME misty!!!!!!!!!!
she is being subjected to Abu Ghraib like TORTURE!! segregated and isolated! placed under extrene psychological TORTURE!!!!!!!!!!
They want her to commit SUICIDE!!!!!!!!!

misty is INNOCENT!

I know this joke is dating myself but:
Meet Tommy Whiner, offspring of Doug & Windy

She’s selling drugs on tape OJ,LOL

I agree Karon, the stress could have even helped them start using or going on a bender

Karon- yes,yes me too about the divorce, I believe linsey found out something that implicates tommy bigtime and thats why hank and lisa cut contact too

Karon, could it be just a simple explanation as Lyndsy wanting to divorce, collect govt checks if her income is below a certain level to help her move on and the parents want to just shut the heck up cuz they are already in enough of trouble?

Simple as that!!! JMO

Occam’s razor

Did Misty have a disability that made her unable to work that I was not aware of ??? well other than laziness lol

rofl Exactly,her brain might be!

I haven’t seen anything that shows anyone’s story has changed or their lies have changed. Did I miss a Bombshell?

do we know that for fact about the aid and benefits?

lol she villified herself,OJ!
She was the one in charge of Haleigh that night,she failed ld tests for a REASON…….if she’s so innocent then why in the hello hasn’t she told the truth about what happened??

I don’t live in Florida but, in my State that’s how it is.

I assumed she’d get it b/c he’s in jail?

true Random,she didn’t even know what 10% of her bond was.poor girl!

CathyJo63 said,in May 4th, 2010 at 11:35 pm lol she villified herself,OJ!
She was the one in charge of Haleigh that night,she failed ld tests for a REASON…….if she’s so innocent then why in the hello hasn’t she told the truth about what happened??
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shes not CHARGED with that is she!!?????????
Misty was SET UP on drug charges because LE needs a SCAPEGOAT for their bungling botched investigation the haleigh case.
Morons couldn’t find their own arses without a roadmap!

misty is innocent!

you got me there,Oj…..true..she isn’t!!!!!

but my guess is,if she’d told the truth about that night she wouldn’t have been watched would she?

thats right Chakra,she hasn’t and in one video she says,they need to get off my back?? well my goodness she was with Haleigh when she went missing!What part of that is so hard for her to understand!should the cops not ask the babysitter what happened.lol almost funny!

OJ

She wasn’t “set up” on the drug charges. LE probably got wind of them selling drugs after or before Hank’s oxycotin was stolen and other things.

It’s not illegal for them to do undercover operations like that. They do that all the time with prostitutes and johns. She was willing in those drug videos.

no i just go by what I see and hear! and the fewwwwwwwww known facts!

Karon- that and what she found out could have been the final straw. we heard she found rope in her old trailer ,I don’t know if that was confirmed though

?..its people like you that voted for bush!
kool-aid drinkers!

people like me? you don’t even know me!
and its people like you who turn the child abusers loose to move on to the next one!

CathyJo63 said,in May 5th, 2010 at 12:19 am ?..its people like you that voted for bush!
kool-aid drinkers!

people like me? you don’t even know me!
and its people like you who turn the child abusers loose to move on to the next one!
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mistys a child abuser now?
omg..your lashing out like a lunatic!
put down the box of wine and think rationaly..

and to set the record straight: I did not post on lyndsy’s utube!
I do not have a “site”..

OJ’s glove said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 12:02 am

CathyJo63 said,in May 4th, 2010 at 11:48 pm but my guess is,if she’d told the truth about that night she wouldn’t have been watched would she?
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she woke up and haleigh was gone..
that is the truth.

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No no… I distinctly remember she woke up because she had to pee, and did what most people
do when they have to do that, went directly to the kitchen. lol

1. Kitchen
2. Back door
3. Ran and grabbed cell phone
4. Haleigh was gone
5. And that`s all I know

a retired LE officer who’s daughter died is raising haleigh as his own

my wife would rob a bank with me..

jus sayin..

m is in

To JenM:

I agree with you.

That old tagline of “The last person to see Haleigh” has never sat well with me.

The last person to see her was whomever got rid of Haleigh’s body, or who has her now.

Granted, that’s not mutually exclusive to Misty.. There are other variables to consider, and I think those variables certainly are. It’s just dumb NG stuff.

I don’t think Haleigh was harmed in the trailer, or there would be some evidence. Unless she was given to much medication of some sort, threw up and choked? Maybe this is why Misty washed a blanket with no soap?

Gosh, I hope that evil Crystal’s family did an abduction (or put someone up to it) and she is safe somewhere. Maybe Misty woke up and foiled the plan to take JR too? Lets just hope so. With no body and no evidence of a crime to Haleigh (except the dissappearance), I still hold out hope really. Non custodial kidnappings happen all the time, especially when there are motives….owing 12,000 in back child support, a hearing coming up, jealousy, revenge, past history of false reports….sounds very likely to me. LE needs to dig deeper, and not in the same hole they been diggin either.

hi all. new here. my 2nd post. just like to say that as a survivor of domestic violence (not just one person, a lifetime of it, including childhood),i can see it clearly in Lindsy. she is incredibly young, and saddled with alot of responsiblity. if you think for a moment about how Tommy treats her over the phone; imagine how much more controlling he must have been while he was out, and living with her and the children each day. anyone that tries to exude that kind of control over the phone, fits the description of an abuser, who always needs to be in control. i would ask everyone before they judge Lindsy so harshly, to realize that she & the children were most likely governed by Tommy’s harshest hand. years and years of that becomes “the norm”. i say god bless her that she has the strength now,and the time away from him physically to be able to file those divorce papers. i believe once she is away from that life, she will blossom, as i did. also, working with “at-risk” children for many years, i will say that nowadays, putting chidren in foster-care is not necessarily the best choice, nor one we should think of jumping into quickly. yes, those children could definitely benefit from a more structured environment. but they have a mother, that while young, still can make that happen. and foremost, she loves her children and doesn’t abuse them herself, from all accounts. foster-care has become riddled with people just wanting to make money off the placements. (please know-not saying all are that way, there are many wonderful, loving homes) but statistically, much of the foster-care system has broken down to the point where children are being found abused, physically, sexually, emotionally, neglected, and in far worse shape, at times, then when they originally came into the system. they need tough & immediate reform. i say,given the opportunity Lindsy may well pull her family up by the bootstraps…and more power to her!!

(imo)

In the original police report from the night of the 911 call Misty said she woke up because she was thirsty/glass of water.

It was later she changed to needing to pee.

Never thought about the wording – ‘last to see her’ – guess if we knew that the case would be solved.

Ann

These audios are from last month obviously,, and I wonder if and when we will hear and see more….I wish we had someone who would be able to get each one of these as they are allowed to be published publicly, as close to the time they are made…..Thanks to Simon and all, for making these available to us…Are there more, and when can we listen to them???? Why is it no one else is getting these vids??? Simon, by listening to these we all get to see what these kind of people are like and what their children must live through….Because of the sunshine laws,,hopefully we get the vids closer to the time of the so-called divorce….Lindsy is not very mature and she sure isnt IMO very bright…She is wantng tatoos, private part piercings,,,and she is horny…..Where in all of this is she really concerned about those three little kids of hers……..She has lived with a real creep, thug, druggie,,thief in the night to his neighbors,,,and she never left him….I dont think Haleigh is much of her concern other than the cops have targeted her “family”….Most of us are gettng a glimsp of what life really is like for these people and I am surprised another child has not gone missing…

OJ, hows the weather in Minnesota. Is the dark room with all the photos getting to you yet. The mind is a wonderful thing….Happy posting

looking for Justice,

Gosh I really wish someone could fit the pieces together.

You asked for my thoughts (dangerous zone) – first thought, they didn’t have the story straight. Perhaps someone said, say, Theresa, ‘you don’t wake up because your thristy’, so it was changed to the bathroom; then she got into the two bathroom scenario.

What’s that old saying . . . the tangled web ‘when at first you start to deceive, what a tangled web you weave’ – probably not exact, but that’s about it.

Ronald had to be in on the story or, my feeling, with his temper, Misty wouldn’t be alive today.

The ten o’clock – what do you think – was it because Tommy actually was there at l0:00 and by then they figured out the cell phone messages between he and Ronald (who first denied ever calling Tommy) could place Tommy perhaps at the trailer at ten o’clock.

What’s your theory on this mess?

Love this blog as so many of you are really thinking and have great points.

Ann

cheryl said,in May 4th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

Well,no wonder Cheryl,they go on like Haleigh was never missing! Fascinates me I’m sorry! never mention her at all!

OJ’s glove said,in May 5th, 2010 at 12:53 am my wife would rob a bank with me..

jus sayin..

m is in

I don’t think I’d admit that OJ! WOW!

Well Ann, I believe that Haleigh did OD. I believe Misty was at home. I am inclined to think that they would med Haleigh if not both to make Haleigh go to sleep at night. There was a rumor that went through Satsuma and the people talking made statements that Haleigh OD and even went as far as saying LE had found Haleigh and that there was a toxicology report that would let them know if it were accidental or intentional. The rumor alledged that Haleigh was put into the dumpster, then removed and put somewhere else. The people stated that LE was looking at Ron and Misty. LE did come out and denounce the rumor. I thought up to last week perhaps someone was talking to LE, because this came out before the Letters from jail or the mondex search. This rumor came out in July 2009. Then all heck broke loose with Ron and Tommy fighting and Ron going to jail and then came ratgate. Misty and the underecover mama. I am wondering if perhaps they ( LE) obtained some sort of evidence from the dumpster that showed Haleighs dna and maybe decomp even though it was not Haleigh herself. Instead of someone talking maybe there is evidence talking. Remember it was not til after the dumpster search when they collected dna from family.

Hey all. Been away a few days. Had to take a break from the madness that is the case. I was hoping by the time I returned arrests would have been made and Haleigh had been brought home. Sadly, that does not appear to be the case. Looks like the same ole’, same ole’ garbage from these players. UGH!

Hey JB!! Sure have missed you!

CathyJo….OJ trusts only one woman…uh, girl….and that is Misty. Don’t know why. Not sure I WANT to know why. But OJ is a true Misty follower thru and thru. Go figure. LOL

chakra7 said,in May 4th, 2010 at 11:53 pm true CathyJo she hasn’t ever been able to tell a straight story thats not normal for an innocent person.

Exactly Chakra,if i’d been flying on crack/whatever i’d have told it,whats worse?
I’d gladly say i was gone,or was high….whatever but i would not hold back when this baby’s life was at stake,theyre all druggies and no gooders in my eyes,they all knew the same things theyre using now to get out of a mess,why not when it counted………Haleigh may have been home by now but they chose to lie and still are!

Hey lfj – missed you too. Just needed a break from all of this. I get so frustrated and distraught over this case. It isn’t healthy! You know what I mean?

Tobias – ROFLMAO – OJ’s blow up doll is probably named Misty! LOL

tobias said,in May 5th, 2010 at 11:18 am Cathy, His wife is probably plastic with a stem in her neck to inflate her. lol

ROFLMSAO!!!!!!!!!!!!TY for that one,lol oh i swear!!!!!!!!!!!

I am headed out for awhile. Glad to see you all though. Will be back shortly. God Bless

Misty River take my mind! LoL Poor OJ!GOT GOOD TASTE IN STUPID WOMEN!

I have a feeling there will be a BOMBSHELL on NG with Lindsy on the show telling about her divorce and since AH has writen that people can write in with questions to ask this bunch when he talks with them, that will be what Lindsy and Chelsea are up to, being on the show and telling on GHollars and Mistys parents. They will try to endear themselves to the public.jmo

JB: Hey, so glad to hear you’re back…..

Cathy: I have learned to scan over OJ. Pretend as though he doesn’t exist. Just like, Misty was asleep at 10pm in the mh that night.

It’s awfully quiet down there in Florida. Erie!

Lucy,lol I would but i can’t get my head that far up my a#@!

It does me remind me though…..i am outta darts!

Hey CathyJo! Hey stillucy! Good to see you guys. I stayed away for four days trying to decompress a little. I didn’t miss the jailhouse whiners….but I did miss my blogging buddies! 😀

Stillucy….You get used to OJ over time. Eventually you’ll find his comments will make you smile or even chuckle. Yup, he grows on you after awhile…sort of like a fungus! 😆

I was going back over videos and it just is so strange that GGSykes and TN kept saying Misty was so tired then on NG GGSykes said Misty was fine. NG didnt call her on that WHY? Its like a complete 180 was she tired and drugged out or was she fine and dandy? I think AS is afraid Ron may face child endangering charges if they find Haleigh dead, if not worse. She doesnt even go into what conversation she had with Misty. I doubt she just dropped clothes and left with out a word. jmo

Tobias,I agree,i have too b/c at first too…they always said Misty was the best ron ever had,she was a mother to them there kids,and now its a complete turnaround!
to be honest Tobias,I don’t think Sykes was there that day,why didn’t Misty say so when she was asked,she said a/c guy and joe? wasn’t it?

I think Chelsea will go down on the ship that we have come to know as the “Croslin”. If, Lindsey starts talking to anyone, she’ll be on her own. Hopefully she’s went back to her own family for support and guidance. She sure needs it.

JB: The blog/radio shows were interesting this past Sunday. I’ve taken a little bit of a break here and there this week too. Just waiting for some news to break. Still thinking PCSD is building a case to turn over to a Grand Jury. And a Grand Jury could take months to pass down charges, especially with this bunch of liars. It could be interesting to try them all together tho. Could you imagine that court room? It would be a circus.

bbs daughter phone

Even tho cousin Joe isn’t an upstanding citizen, I think he is the only one of this bunch that is not involved. He was the scapegoat because it was too easy. I still think it will go back to Ron, Misty, and oh yes, Grandma Teresa somehow…..IMO.

Huh Chakra,LoL I barely know engliss!lol
but ty anyway! lol
Chakra,also once she said to the bathroom but why not thee br in that bedroom?

Joe is just too easy LE and FBI would have broke him from the first time they interviewed him, to me he is an easy scapegoat. I dont even think he stole the gun that was in the ditch. That was either Tommy or Misty herself. She was the first one to report on that saying she found it. Then we hear Rons story to Cobra saying he found it and blamed Joe (it was found in Tommys ditch). Funny how the guy who is visiting gets blamed. Misty even painted him as being so afraid and wanting to take off right away, yet there are pictures of him hanging posters with her. Doesnt look freaked out to me. I dont think he was involved in any of this at all.jmo

who knows this wasnt planned when they had jo come down to fl!
I dunno how he stayed with them b/c its evident they don’t like the guy at all!
Maybe he and r had a drug for gun trade or something and ron stuck him then with this,Just don’t know what to think! but i do think of everything,wether i root for ron/misty/whomever i still don’t close my mind! becayse something happened and theyre in it up to their necks!

methinks,

Don’t leave the keys in your motorhome just in case anyone you gave a ride to might ‘steal’ it!

Ann

True CathyJo- I have to beleive her head never hit the pillow that night.
Me to lol-my engliess needs some work and I don’t know any spanish but jus an excuse to say Happy LOL

Cathy, If he would have left the day before(monday) and creeped back I could believe it but thats not the case. I dont think he is the one who said this would be a great place to get rid of a body either. We have heard that said about Ron and the bridges from Amber , so it sounds like Rons MO not Joes. jmo

You are exactly right Tobias,I just never once believed it,when a member of the family is accused,usually eveoryiones saying,”no ain’t no way C”ATHY WOULD DO THAT” but here they are alllllll pointing to him first thing!yet saying,ain’t no way r or m would do that!

Well i to dont belive Misty murdered Haliegh ,or fed her dope.Shes a teen who is in a mess.I also think le should have arrested her in the beginning for neglect,then questioned,the state could have always dropped the charges.But a young girl on pills,isnt going to feed a child roxys/oxys they are to expensive o the street.she would save them for herself.10 dollars for a 15 mil roxy/20 for a 30 steet wise. 20 for a 40 mil oxy,80 50 dollars,so i just dont see a broke giel who likes pills giving that to Haliegh.Shes broke,an no way to buy more pills/unless Ron buys them,or she tricks a make the money/pills for herself.

Even with Haliegh taking a pill,as candy.She would have spit most of it out,they are bitter.An TN said she had to take them before she knew the tast,an i do to.From taking both type pills before from Pain mang.Now if Haliegh did chew one,spitting most out,she still could have got enough for a child her age to die,more so because she had astma,an thaese type meds work against the respitory system.

I dont see her hitting Haliegh in the head with a board,what she went out side got a board,came back in a struck Haliegh ,i dont see it.

Could she have left,an come back to find Haliegh gone yes,could she have come back walking in one some one raping Haliegh yes,but blood/DNA would be present where this took place.An its said no blood found,or she would have been arrested before now.

I just believe the girl was happy to be home with Ron,loved the children/all children .Was home,an someone came in an statred trouble,hurting haliegh,or took her an Misty didnt know it.Why i say she didnt know is
First LDT was inconclusive./SHE ONLY STARTED FAILING THEM,ONCE SHE STARTED HEARING ALL THE RUMORS,AN THINKING WHO WOULD HAVE/MAY HAVE TAKEN HER/THEN SHE STARTED FAILING THE TEST.

Its a sad day when LE knew she had a drug problem way back,an dint try to get that 17 at the time help,yet they would Rather send UC ,a yr later,,calling her for pills.Until she thought he was a friend,in that wourld an an she gave in got him some pills,it went from there.Sorry to sick her with such a large amount in the end,knowing what it would cost her/many young yrs of her life.

Shame on them for that.When they let Crystal fail drug test,never setting her up.It was a ugly move ,an just done because of the Haliegh case,cheep shot/becase they could solve a case.No fair trials because the drug case/is forever tied to the missing child..Because they couldnt solve a case.

I myself surly would have respected LE , More if they had arrested her in the beginning,an then if found she wasnt guilty,drop the charges.Than wait,an entrap her with the 200+ pills as they did,that was plain dirty the end of that drug sting(200).Like i said 98 percent of those pills belonged to the state,so with the small amount they did sell not from UC,that helped clean the drug trade up how,with all those big dealers i heard talked about.Charles being one.

As far as Lindsey she not a very responsable woman/mother of 3.An the fact shes playing Art,LP shows me shes a hustler,she knows what shes doing.

Tommy is a doper at heart,untill that changes,he wont change.

Hank,an Lisa have stayed off NG,shes invited/they dont talk to Art/hes suffer a werch/a bad injury one,an wasnt helped because that woman broke the law,an didnt carry ins,she let her man use the car he hit the man,an they should be held liable for the medical,an pay the man.His Job as a dry waller is over/Thanks to the media,NG showes,an shame on anyone who played Austuns face,an didnt bleep him out .Aminor child,an it should be a law againt the Jail system releasing his face on video.I would find me a Lawyer an sue all their butts for that one!!!!

But all this really maens nothing compaired to that precious child who is missing/murderer,an we still dont know whatb happened,or havent fount her.All the other bull compaired to this part is nothing.Wishing this child could be found,even if it was one tiny bone.Anything!!!!

JB,It gives new meaning to the kids from different strokes,sheeeeeeeeeesho!

Thanks Ann, I’ll keep that n mind! It really won’t be a problem though as we have all we can do to get it started!lol

TRUE TOBIAS,AND I STILL WONDER WHY LE PICKED RON UP THAT DAY AND TOOK HIM THERE TO THAT SAME PLACE AND HE REACHED THEM A LETTER OR PAPER FROM HIS POCKET,I DUNNO!
OOps sorry!!!!
I don’t believe Tommy took her there for a split second!

CathyJo63 said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 11:51 am

Tobias,I agree,i have too b/c at first too…they always said Misty was the best ron ever had,she was a mother to them there kids,and now its a complete turnaround!
to be honest Tobias,I don’t think Sykes was there that day,why didn’t Misty say so when she was asked,she said a/c guy and joe? wasn’t it?
————
If she wasn’t there PCSO would have backed up their time line to when the AC guy left, but they didn’t. Their time line starts after Mrs. Sykes and her companion left. Jr is also old enough to tell PCSO if Mrs. Sykes was there or not. Time line starts after she left.

i for one am sick of the games!

yes he did Ann,The video,he said my childs LIFE back? and that cell he had in his hand kept ringing too,he never once answered it,who wouldn’t if theiir child was just kidnapped????????? what if the kn was calling with instructions?

Vaq, Could the time line really be from the last time Ron actually talked with Misty and not when AS claims to have been there? jmo

((((((methinks))))))) awwwwwwwwwww,and ty……sorry you’re sad!!!! here’s a hankie too.you can keep it too!lol

Misty mentions everyone there earlier in the day, ACguy Tommy his 3 kids but never AS until AS comes out with it on the 19th. That is 9 days later. Misty does bring up AS but that was in the morning not at 7-730.jmo

I think LE knows who is all involved they just dont have enough to prosecute everyone of them.
They were efficient in not leaving evidence which makes me wonder like they are whether the crime scene is actually somewhere else than the MH. Could it have been at Tommys house? Lindsy said recently that he had dinner cooked and had cleaned the house. Why would he do that? Everyone of us who have husbands know something is up if the house gets cleaned and dinners cooked. I find it odd since he says he didnt have pills that day and could manage to get his lazy butt to work.jmo

This new administration could have came into this case and looked at this as an embarrassment to the Department and could very well have started from scratch. How could this bunch of drugged out low life thugs pulled off the crime of the century involving the disappearance of an innocent 5yr old little girl? PCSD look totally stupid. They missed alot on this one. At the very least they should have locked up most of them for a number of crimes related to HaLeigh and unrelated to HaLeigh from the get go just to show they meant business. Especially Ron. I can come up with at least 5 or 6 different charges to stick on him alone to keep him busy and away from the action for awhile. Big mistake by LE. Maybe Misty would’ve talked to someone, even him while he was locked up or someone else about what had happened. LE didn’t play dirty quick enough IMO to get truthful answers for HaLeigh. Although dirty would’ve been within the letter of the law. Misty wasn’t smart enough to be out there on her own without Ron and his family guiding her.

So, what about this theory….Misty drops the kids off with Tommy so she can go do a drug run. He is to take them back to her house, once Lyndsy gets home. He gets to Misty’s, and she is passed out of her mind…he puts Jr in the bed and takes off with Haliegh. She wakes up and Haleigh is gone.

How many people really did have a key to that place????

JenM,

Good theory – except for Ron. Tommy would have been devoured by the alligators by now.

Go back to Ron – he had to be involved some way or this crowd would be off the Memorial Bridge, fed to the gators, have their brains blown off — these are some of the threats he made.

Ann

Has Teresa taken a LDT

August 23, 2009

Putnam County investigators say,

“She {Misty] has filed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence
at the scene contradicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evenings activities.”

Would seem they do not have a time line.

Ann

my dsl had been down,lol was wondering what happened!

and if you recall,when they were first locked up,Ron said “I don’t care who it is I will kill them and that Misty knew nothing and I felt even then he was sending Misty a msg and when the guy giving him the interview said,what do you think,or whatever it was but Ron said they know i don’t know nothing yet cuz they’d be callled for a homicide! how,in jail?? then they go to that meeting and rons told Haleigh may have been (r) or Not living and he comes out no different though he knew who it may have been?? don’t jive no more with me!

you got it Pinky! They don’t eeven remember who Haleigh is i think sometimes,I love you giggle,i will wear my robe giggle,don’t be mean to my dog giggle,starve the kids but get me chips and toofpaste giggle,I am soooooooooo over it!grow up buncha knotheads!

omg Ann…..slap me backwards and call me madam! so nothings changed! wow what a shock!

oh but they found a nebulizer at the fake search site!

my dsl keeps going down,grrrrr

Ann:
I have wondered all along if Haleigh suffered an asthma attack and died. I also wonder if Misty would have known it was an asthma attack, if she had never seen one. She may have thought it was an overdose and panicked. One reason I have wondered about that is due to her remark about when they were outside popping wheelies on their bikes. Misty said she was fine then. Being outside in that cold night air without a top on could have thrown her into an asthma attack.

If Misty had left the MH for awhile, Haleigh could have suffered an asthma attack and died while she was gone. She may have been already dead when Misty got back.

The missing nebulizer is a puzzle to me. Why was it missing?

Boy, you guys are good!!!

Just looked it up on Wik and there it is –
combustble smoking device (i.e., asthma, cigarettes or cannabes joints).

Ann

ann said,in May 5th, 2010 at 1:07 pm CathyJoe63,

Think this bunch had everyone fooled for some time.

Have learned we have to listen to the little details, such as, my child’s life back, great catch there. Freudian slips – the truth in among the lies.

What do you think LE knows, what is their actual time line? Have they ever given any information on this case?

Their statements, imo, contain absolutely nothing.

Wonder with Hardy new in office if they were just getting up to speed in the beginning and after a year began turning up the heat on theories they developed?
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Ann i’m usually wrong about alot,lol but if i had to make a statement today.lemme tell ya
I’d say that le are onto them but with evidence destroyed and lack of explanation and facts from Misty they have not much of a case as far as proving what really happened,i dunno what changed my mind but even 2 days ago i still wasn’t sure m or r knew very much but were lying to cover some stuff but today i really have to wonder!

Lucy Amen! Thats it..bottom line so who gets justice for Haleigh,it’s obvious none of those coox want it?

It could have happened that way Karon. Maybe the nebulizer had been used for illegal drugs and not cleaned properly? Even if it was clean, administering the drug that goes into the machine is very important. Parents are given careful instructions… cuz it is extremely easy to send someone into cardiac arrest if they put in too high of a dose. The big question to me is why the need to lie? …but I have learned with these people,
logic is not applied when making decisions.
Black is white – White is black. Down is the new up! It could have happened that way.

heck if that hyappened why not toss the neb and say someone took it,not Haleigh? crazy people they are!

The truth will be that it was an accident that they have manipulated so much that it’s exasperated to this huge cover up and they should be punished severly for all the time and torment that they have caused just to keep their own butts out of trouble. And I think the people involved will come down to Ron, Misty and probably Teresa. Everybody else were just used to place blame to divert attention.

Right Lucy! I don’t think anyone PLANNED on it happening!
Either Misty was inappropriate with someone Haleigh would tell on and had no choice or ron caught somethings,things got outta hand and she was killed!

i don’t think this but i am sick of being scared to say it,who knows What man,Misty was gone the weekend…Haleighs gone,blankets washed,rons mouth quiet! sorry but there it is and i prayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to God i am being ignorant!

instead he’s hiding the fact he seen Misty,even to his mom……the uc showed different,the tattoo after the divorce,what man wants his name tattooed on a dad dammed whatever of his daughter! says so much to me now!

I apologize for losing it,I do! so sorry guys!
But i am not sorry for the words i chose.its the truth,i am so fed up!

aw,ive ran ya off????? sorry!!!

Looks like another day is ending with no break in the Haleigh case. It makes me wonder when Misty said Haleigh was out doing wheelies earlier in the evening and she was fine THEN. I thought the THEN was an odd thing to say. Of course the child would have been fine up until she was kidnapped. Too me she was saying she wasn’t fine later. I hope we know something soon. They aren’t coming forward with any information.

Guys,I am truly sorry for going off with that subject but i guess we all get frustrated with it and maybe i did jump the gun alittle there and me and my brother Ted had been discussing all this too along with our lives at the hands of parents who should have protected us from those kind of people too so maybe i just got too emotional b/c of that too,I was alot luckier than Ted was,believe me when i tell you that!so much luckier!
when you see a 46 yr old man and a 47 yr old woman sitting and just bawling as they talk its a whole new story! We are not kids anymore and nothing can be done ,it was long ago and still hard to think about and I honestly expected to never see him again because of his pain!and I guess i see Haleigh being disrespected with the lies too and it gets to me,I ain’t going to lie about that! But still I should have handled myself a little better and I am so very very sorry!

I agree Mary,and everytime she told about wheelies,even the hypnotist tape she worded it exacly the same!

Maryd, You have a good point about about the bike. I saw a little bike in in some of the pictures of the yard, but don’t know if it was Halieghs. Tommy was there when she was riding the bike too. Haleigh might have hit her head and died later in the evening.

I completly agree CathyJo ,Ron and Misty have been bonded since day one of this if he didn’t know what happend and wasn’t responsible there is no way he would cover for her. Situations like this tear most couples apart,but not them

Ann,even Tim and Cobra i think it was Cobra said ron told them the bed had not even been slept in and no wash powders but i use shampoo whatever i have for emergency laundry and then we hear Tommy stole dish liquid,not that it has to do with Haleigh but why does someone steal dish liquid,but i guess he wouldn’t let Lindsey buy it? but did buy dog shampoo obviously! just odd!

you are so right on Chakra,then a tattoo on the “maybe” killer,come on ya know!

Most people Chakra who have a child missing or gone like that..their marriage don’t survive because they close off and then blame one another!

I am sure i am being unfair but I do know parents can do very bad things to their own children!Maybe it’s why i took a differnt opinion now,i dunno but just saying.jmo ya know!

Thank You Ann,I really appreciate the understanding!!!!!!
Means alot!
(((hugs)))

Right Tobias,dunno if they’d care but i’d start spreading rumors about the death penalty,and see what they did but then again c/a didn’t care……well i am wrong aboout c/a,its the only real tears she crioed…ever!

mmmm,wasn’t it that day she went missing?

yea so why didn’t sykes bring THAT SHIRT too?

CathyJo said:4:12
and don’t forget the scotch brite pads, I mean who is going to steal cleaning supplies that’s probably why he was pissed at LC for spending money on supplies,silly Linsey what are you thinkin we steal our cleaning supplies Hee Hee

sorry couldn’t resist

right Michelle,she made sure we knew she’d washed them,so why?? if you commit a crime and destroy evidence……..whats the point????? unlesssssss the washer was going when le came!stil;l it makes me wonder!

hard TOO,my minds gone!lol

oh I can just see one of us stealing guns,and reach the door and think”hmmmmm wowwwwwwwww dish soap!

Maybe two theories can be incorporated here. Misty was hit by the Van when she was out riding her bike. She got bruised and battered but not dead. Ron didn’t want her to go to the hospital because of CPS’s involvement. She was in pain later that night and Ron told Misty to give her pain meds cause he didn’t want her taken to the hospital. That’s when she gets sick and vomits on her blanket and soon after passes. That’s when Tommy is called over to help. Just another theory. I have more than GM Flo.

Right Ann,exactly! like the pic artist statement with the door!

I see your point Mary..very possible,these people don’t think period!

Maryd at 4:33
interesting theory,certainly includes the facts known and Rons involvement

attention no doubt,my view of Crystal has changed too,wasn’t great before,lol but she’s immature!

meant that part to Winter,lol

We have heard Tommys tapes wonder when Mistys will come out? It seems Lindsy visited with her and Dustin. I feel Lindsy and Misty had a falling out when there was that fight with Hank over his pills. Thats when she went to stay with CJones. jmo

I’m so relieved I’m not the only one who doesn’t trust TN, (thank you stilllucy and others). NG worships her, it’s irresponsible. A normal person would have been running around the neighborhood, screaming their child’s name and banging on doors WHILE they were on the phone to 911. These people are all so self centered that their covering for themselves and each other are likely about dumb, fairly inconsequential things. Like covering their own drug usage, stuff like TN is doing. No Mom defends their son’s GF like TN has done for Misty. TN is covering as bad as any of them, I wish NG would see the light.

And why was Lisa trying to get Mistys letters to Tommy? He told Hank for her to stop because it cost him money everytime and they did give them to him anyways. It was also brought up by G Holars that Misty was trying to get Lisa to do the same for her and Ron. LE has the letters I wonder what she wrote? jmo

and especially when she lost your grandbaby!

Not for a 17 year old they have barely known for 4 months and lost their grand daughter. jmo

NEW ARTICLE – NEW AUDIO – Sounds like it is going to be a doozey too!

I dunno Tobias but i wish theyd get more tapes! it shows how these ppl really are!

ann said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 4:57 pm

maryd,

Maybe Haleigh accidently ran into the van and left the marks – while Ron was still home and she got more than DFS recommended in punishment as he has a temper and was having a very bad time with Misty.

With crying, etc., an asthma attack came on and the drug infested ‘nebulizer’ used to help her caused, as someone said, cardiac arrest?

As all abusers do, he probably blames Misty, who doesn’t know any better, that she is really the one to blame because of her behavior the previous weekend.

Ann

The only reason I’m not sure about that is because Ronald had such a loving trusting relationship on aire after Haleigh went missing. Don’t know where his guilt would come in unless it was his drugs in the inhaler, which is possible. All food for thought. Oh and thanks for pondering with me.

In under 5 min, Teresa got the call from Ron, dressed, grabbed her old LE jacket(was not employed there any longer),grabbed HaLeigh’s 8×10 picture, and drove 15 miles to Ron’s mh and arrived before most of the police officers. Sorry, can’t figure it out. Can someone PLEASE, tell me how this is possible? She was nearby somewhere. Had to be.

LoL lUCY,I’D LOVE TO KNOW MYSELF!

Stilllucy,

It would help to know the cell phone activity of that night. Did someone call Teresa earlier that night?

i’d say click home at the top of this page and click the date on the calendar!

gonna fold laundry whilst i listen,lol

Lindsy thought she’d sick Leonard and Nancy Grace on her in-laws because they owe her money! RFLMAO!!

We Know Tommy had the yellow rope found in his trailer. Why in the world would Tommy cover for Joe- does not make since. I feel that Tommy covered for Misty. Maybe Ron Knows Hard to tell But Misty Killed her I believe. by accident.

wth????????????????Pinkyandduhbrain said,in May 6th, 2010 at 12:13 am stilllucy said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

In under 5 min, Teresa got the call from Ron, dressed, grabbed her old LE jacket(was not employed there any longer),grabbed HaLeigh’s 8×10 picture

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The 8×10 always bothered me… especially when you factor in that TN told Greta that her first thought was Haleigh was hiding under
a bed. You don’t need to use an 8×10 pic
for facial recognition to find a kid under
a bed. It’s a tad much.