In this tape we get to hear Tommy Croslin complain about not being able to sleep. Then the poor quality of photos that his wife sent him of the kids. Then how she should have postponed her visit so the Austin could have come as well.
This tape is all about the ‘ME’ generation. I have mentioned in the past that I see parallels in this case with the sad Caylee Anthony story. Both are of the ‘ME’ generation.
Tommy whines that his father has not been visiting “He is probably high, and they are on a bingeâ€.
The more tapes I hear from Tommy, the more convinced I become that he is a demanding and controlling man. He harps about money, on and on.
Oh and that is just the first 10 minutes. I have not had the chance to listen to the entire tape yet, we are too busy trying to get these rendered to take time.
You can listen to the whole sordid tape here. I have to admit that the Haleigh Cummings case is one of the most frustrating stories I have covered.
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Simon and Jan.. When you made the statement:
“Haleigh Cummings case is one of the most frustrating stories I have covered.”
Such absolute truth.. In any of our daily lives, it know it is so hard to believe how intense the me me me situation is in any family.. I truly feel so sorry for Lindsy, so young, so many responsibilities, and she could never please tommy..
It is very frustrating. I wonder if LE is going to do more ground searches.
….long hours uploading these Videos.
Tommy would like Lindsy to get him a PRESCRIPTION to a fishin’ magazine!
Priceless, Simon and Jan. That was worth the price of admission right there. Made my whole day! lol Seriously, I can’t thank you guys
enough for what you are doing with these tapes.
They are very illuminating as to exactly who these people are.
Tommy: I didn’t sell no drugs, anyway. I mean, if you think about it they weren’t mine.
I am SO TIRED of listening to Lindsy talk about calling Art Harris or Nancy Grace to tell that Hank and Lisa didn’t pay her back. What does that have to do with HALEIGH CUMMINGS? Does she think Art is here to broadcast to the world her problems?
Do people even remember HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings anymore in all this drama that all these people create? It’s so frustrating how all these people care about is themselves!
*And I hope that Simon and Jan don’t take my frustration to mean that I don’t appreciate their efforts uploading all these tapes… because I sincerely do! It’s these PEOPLE that are my frustration. I really do appreciate all the time involved with the tapes, so thank you! 🙂
thanks simon, you da man!
thanks jannie, you da woman!
Thank you so much for putting these audios up for us…..If nothing else these are showing just what these peoples priorities are and they never did care for Haliegh…..Why would they??? its all about them…..Personally I find it rather sickening when Lindsy talks about her little babes in the context of them having little girlfrends and such..arent the little ones like 2 4 and 5 years old,,,shessssh……Lindsy is no better than anyone of the Croslins…She has lived with this man and knows his family well,,,,she has no qualms about the other vid, saying Tommy was on the “pills” 2 years before Halegh went missing,,so she left her own kds with that drugged up creep….and now she gets a tatoo with his name on it…I dont believe for a minute she is planning to walk away from him,,because she is an enabler, and she s codependant on him…..what a mess for those kids,,,is there any hope he will go away for a long, long time…no doubt Lindsy will fall for another drugged up creep and we might be hearng one of her kids is missing,,,what is it going to take for Lindsy to get out of the muck and mire she has brought her chldren into??????? Thanks again for these,,,,are there more????please.
I imagine that Lindsy is airing her money problems to Nancy and Art because she is looking for a hand out. jmo
Now that we have heard that Lindsy is possibly filing for divorce. Given the fact that Tommy mentioned if he didn’t have her and the kids to come home to when he gets out he would have done himself in. I wonder if he is under suicide watch.
Could Lisa and Hank be staying away because they are mad that Tommy and Misty did all this and drug them into this mess? Maybe. How does Lindsy know that G Hollars is talking with them? I bet Misty called GHollars and got her to call Chelsea to find out why Lisa and Hank havent visited her. Misty is probably losing it without visits or phone calls. Maybe thats the plan cut her off and she will talk?? jmo
Misty is eventually gonna have to wake up to the fact that she will go to prison and she will be alone. I see her parents just moving on and sad to say there is no one else that cares about her but G Hollars. jmo
could it be he can’t sleep with a guilty conscience.lol he’s trying to figure why he can’t.sheeeeesh
Tobias – so true. Does G Hollars really care about her? I wonder. She will always have OJ’s glove 🙂
Lindsy seems to have made a pretty nice life already for the kids. T-Ball classes at the Y and her spin class. She has moved on already and Tommy hasnt figured it out but he doesnt fit into her new life. I think she found out he is going down just like Hope. jmo
Tobias,so true….then they’ll talk and if i’d been Lindsey i’d have told tommy if he didn’t come clean i’d divorce him!
I hope no one goes and visits Tommy or Misty. They both need to be cut off! All they do is lie anyway!
why the hello does she always laugh when he’s bashing her! she always says,thats so funny..what the hells funny?
Tobias,lol probably don’t have a car,gosh i swear!
MomMarine,as i always say,they’ll make lye soap out of all of em when they die,cause its all they do is lie!
Ithink she does that to difuse the situation and she knows they are being taped. The wierd things they talk about are probably for us to wonder about, like the tattoos and piercings, its her joke on us. I get it only its not funny because a little girl is missing and shes joking around with Tommy. jmo
ya know,if it wasn’t so serious it’d be funny,here she is asking for a tattoo and he’s all bent out of shape cuz a GUY will put it on her and then he says,wait till i get home then,no tattoo while i am here,so what now guys?
she’ll get a tattoo when she’s 80!lol
ya know,if it wasn’t so serious it’d be funny,here she is asking for a tattoo and he’s all bent out of shape cuz a GUY will put it on her and then he says,wait till i get home then,no tattoo while i am here,so what now guys?
she’ll get a tattoo when she’s 80!lol
I’ll tell ya,if i hear him laugh one more time i will go to florida and knock the holy crap right out of ole mr. tommy!
Lord,he’s got more pains than a french door…….praying they’ll give him a pill,lol
right too Tobias but especially when he tells her she’d better not do nothing?? then he’ll laugh like he’s kidding!
The divorce in my opinion could be to take the pressure off of her and the kids. Tommy is going to prison but they have to survive in the real world, like he said to her there are nuts out there with her phone number and you can tell he is worried. She may have just filed it but I wont believe it until its actually posted that it final. jmo
rofl,a fishing magazine? i have heard it all now,he ain’t going to alcatraz dang! thats the only prison i know with water around!
tommys saying his parents are prolly on drugs,won’t come see him.knowing he’s being recorded!!!!!! but he didn’t care to ask them for money and phone time and all!
right Tobias,I’d think more of her if she divorces him!!!
I am inclined to think if the Authorities charged them with “Obstruction of Justice” or something(keeping them from finding this dear child)….they might find out more commng from these people. I expect they would be in a hurry to spill things if it were more than the drugs charges, which they already have. As for Ronald, I think he should have been released by now. The man has been thru hell, to put it mildly.
Could be that she did after he led LE to the boat ramp. She had to be furious unless she already knew he was involved and lied about where he was. Time will tell on that one .jmo
So poor Tommy boy can’t sleep in jail? Who gives a fat rats butt? If his nose was clean, he would not be there in the first place so no amount of whimpering touches me. As far as his saying his parents were probably high and on a binge, does that tell us anything? As the twig is bent, so grows the tree. Time for this lot of dysfunctional idiots to come clean, get it over with and go on to jail for good. Never heard so much whining in my life out of locked behind bars jerks who did all they could to get there. Heck, should they not be enjoying living free on the system as they always have? Maybe this is the reason they won’t talk, they would lose that free meal ticket with all those Twinkies and chips. When that junk gets old to them, maybe they might open up some. Time to stop pampering them so, bread and water and one bath a week should do the trick. No cigarettes, no television and lock up that stupid game room! Show them what the real deal is here!
Why would they release Ron he was selling drugs and from all the lies,covering up and down right neglect he deserves to be right where he is too. jmo
I think this is a glimpse into his mindset prior to him taking his poly. Maybe his lack of sleep was due to knowing he was getting close to fessing up about his involvement??
OR
Maybe he got more meds in jail and has run out. That would cause a lot of sleeplessness and pain?
Snodgrass has a court date now for july will he ever be put behind bars? I watch his docket and after all this time Icant believe how slow they are putting this SO behind bars.jmo
I would think since he is in solitary it would be hard for him to get pills. He could be stressed about the court case coming up and with all the drug talk thats going on he probably is craving. jmo
Could also be that he is dreaming about that night now that the drugs dont block it out.jmo
That and how many of us believe our spouses would stick around even for 3 years if we ent to prison? He knows its gonna end he just doesnt want to believe it.jmo
Thanks so much simon and all for the tapes.Its not a tattoo that tommy doesn’t want her getting with out him. its a piercing in a very private!! area. I’m personally tired of all there giggles and inuendos while a baby is missing. jmo
hank and lisa have been warned by LE to not visit misty. This is a tatic to psychologicly destroy her capacity to think and reason to isolate and destroy her!.. It is TORTURE to the Nth degree!!! TORTURE!!!!!
Is this JUSTICE??!! To SQUEEZE a person til they will say anything?
IF misty LIVES til trial she will be found NOT GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!
LE and the entire florida GOVERMENT want her DEAD! to distract from their completely botched bungling of the haleigh investigation!
misty is INNOCENT!!
It in my opinion it is for their entertainment and they think the joke is on us. Not funny and since we arent in the publics eye as POS in jail and an enabler I find them even lower on the food chain(SLUGS) comes to mind.jmo
OJ, Tell that to Hope since she got 15 years for one count and Misty has so many more. I believe we all saw the UC tapes and Misty was in her element she has done this before and finally was caught. She is not innocent by a long shot.jmo
Thank you Armando , Simon and Jan for your time and efforts on these tapes and your dedication on this case. These people are the strangest bunch.jmo
Agree tobias and I think Lisa and Hank probably sold the car for drugs
Smoking weed is OK to Lindsy, Tom, Chelsea and Tim. No to pills, yes to alcohol and weed.
About Jay and Lisa staying with Lindsy, going to the beach with her:
Jay bought the Grand Theft Auto game for Austin.
i agree with southernvagirl lindsay is codependent with a capital C, if she knew anything about what happened to haleigh she needs to go down too. misty and tommy and maybe ron all knew what happened to haleigh, one was responsible for hher death and the othe two were in on it some way. they all need to spend decades behind bars if not for good.
Do you suppose Lindsy read that book and realized Tommy hasnt changed at all? And probably never will. I think that may have been part of it and the whole thing just blew up in her face too. After all these tapes she still believes in him and then the LDT and boat ramp hit the news. Bet she isnt laughing anymore. jmo
tobias said,
in May 4th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
I would think since he is in solitary it would be hard for him to get pills.
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Tommy isn’t in solitary. He’s in lockdown. Tommy can have contact with other inmates (as you can hear when he is visiting with Lindsy). In solitary, you have absolutely zero contact with any other inmates. Lockdown means you are in your cell for either 22 or 23 hours of the day and only are allowed out for an hour or two a day for showers, phone calls and visits. You eat in your cell, etc. You are in “lockdown” for your own protection.
On a separate note, interesting that people (from the internet?) are calling Lindsy. She mentions a lady from Maryland is calling her to talk. So now there are people calling Flo, and at least one person calling Lindsy. Lindsy said that she is able to “vent” to this lady.
And I laughed when Tommy mentions he can get magazines as long as he has a “prescription” to them. LOL, guess he still has DRUGS on the mind! 🙂
Listening to this tape is disgusting. Their mindset is out of the universe somewhere in the Land of Oz. What is so funny? Both Lindsey and Tommy laugh…carry on like everything is normal in their lives.
Both are so stupid they don’t know the difference between prescriptions and subscriptions….boy did I laugh at that one.
Poor baby can’t sleep….parents must be on a binge….he he he…LOL LOL both.
I’m trying to decipher which one is dummer than the other. It’s a toss up.
IMO their children should’ve been taken away from them ages ago….DCS should’ve stepped in a long time ago……negligence on their part.
Their language alone tells me that it’s normal to use the ‘F’ word as it’s a normal part of their speech habits. I expect their kids use it also.
Now we know that Lindsay has filed for divorce.. and if she thinks that clears her from what SHE KNOWS about Haleigh, she’s sadly mistaken.
Why hasn’t this wife of his….come down on his head for doing drugs and landing in jail?
IMO she is an enabler and lacking a brain too.
D E L I V E R A N C E….in full force.
Lindsy, the debt collector, knows her in-laws are homeless.
Her homeless mother and father in-law borrowed money from her a month or so ago, and now she wants to give the derogatory ‘juice’ to Nancy Grace and Leonard Padilla?
If her in-laws had borrowed the money from a bank, a debt collector who broadcast the debt nationwide, as their daughter-in-law Lindsy would like NG and LP to do, could be sued.
Lindsy shows no respect to her in-laws or Flora Hollars.
Chelsea called Flora a liar, Lindsy called her a ‘borderline retard’, but Flora is smarter and more ethical than both of the smart – * girls.
Does anyone have any hope this case will ever be solved and these guilty people brought to justice? Tommy and Lindsey act like they are in junior high. I feel so sorry for their children.
Miss Betty – I think it will be solved.
I read somewhere both Lisa and Hank sr have already had their case heard and both are on probation, with drug tests , the whole nine yards…If they are back on drugs (if they ever quit) they will go to jail…We will probably hear about their next arrest n a couple of weeks..Then They can all have a famly reunion……Lindsy shows no respect, because she s not normal, imo,,she allowed herself and her kids to lve under the same roof with Lisa, the druggie thief, Hank sr druggie, Tommy, druggie thief and Nay Nay,,,ho, druggie and Lord knows what else,,,she fits somewhere n there…I havent figured out yet just where..but just the fact she had her kids n there amongst the den of hell,,I dont see her as mother teresa, as some have said…
Dylan, lack of sleep would increase the odds of his telling police more.
Would have been smart of LE to have the kitchen lace Tom’s dinner with caffeine, to keep him up all night, ready for a day of questioning.
Southernvagirl said,
in May 4th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
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That is true about Hank & Lisa both being on probation. Seems rather stupid in Lisa’s case given she was already ON probation. She should have had the two counts brought forward that were withheld (as long as she stayed out of trouble). Yet, she’s on probation again. What was the point?
You can read about both Hank & Lisa’s newest charges here:
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php
Type in Croslin% and scroll down to
Lisa’s 12-22-2009 charge and Hank’s 11-24-2009 charge. If you look at the dockets, it describes the terms of the probation (drug testing, whether they can leave the county, etc)
I saw where Hank and Lisa had their case heard early and are both on probation. I wonder how they managed to get both their cases moved up and they got off easy?
Wow, these people are a class act. Although I feel bad for Lindsy for the s*it Tommy and his dirtbag family are putting her and her children through, I don’t think she is as innocent as she has tried to come across in the past. For one she covered for Tommy in the very begining which shows me she suspects something isn’t right. For two she has the control to protect her son from visiting his father in the jail but she insists on dragging him to almost all of her visits. I could care less if Tommy wants to see his kids, I wouldn’t expose my kids to that environment. Three, she uses the stuff he steals. If she was innocent she wouldn’t have allowed him to bring the stolen items into her home unless he had damn good proof that he had really purchased the stuff, which he didn’t. Sure she returned the items after he got caught the one time but that was out of fear of getting caught after a complete list of missing items was turned in to LE. She should have refused to allow any of the items to be brought into her home. Now she went to school and Tommy keeps telling her she wanted to go to school so she could work so she needs to find a job, he’s right. She doesn’t seem to want to hear it when he say’s it, she keeps blowing it off. She most likely had all of her schooling paid for due to the family being poor so she should get her ass in gear and get a damn job. I have no problem with people getting help while they are trying to get on their feet but I do have a problem when people make a career out of welfare. She has no money or is running out of money but she has money for her smokes. She is probably spending about $50 a week to support that nasty habbit, money she could use for her children.
I am also sick of hearing her complain about the Croslin kids breeders owing her money and she is going to tell Nancy Grace and Art Harris that they owe her money if they don’t pay her back. Duh moron you’re the one who loaned the money out knowing that they most likely wouldn’t have money to pay her back. Besides the money she is currently blowing is from Tommy’s job from last year so she really needs to get over it. I understand that she was in school last year but I know when I went back to college to further my career I was working and raising my kids as well as going to school full time so I don’t feel bad for her as far as that goes. Also Timmy helped them when he got his taxes back but you don’t hear that. God, right now she is living in her grandpa’s condo for free along with getting help from her family and most likely getting food stamps and other handouts from the state so life isn’t that frigin bad for her. Who gives a shit about the $400 dollars they owe her, go ahead and tell NG or AH about it. She will be lucky if they even mention it. It’s not like it’s a million bucks and it’s only going to proove how damn stupid she really is for giving them the money knowing they won’t be able to pay it back. They didn’t get all the earned income credit back from taxes so where in the heck did she think they would get money to pay her back. If the parents had any brains they would have claimed Misty as a dependent since she didn’t work and did live with them some of the time and no one else claimed her(unless Ron did). Hopefully by now she has gotten her rear in gear and has gotten a job even if it isn’t as a LPN right now. She needs to accept whatever work she can get until she gets a nursing position. It would look better for her if she showed she at least was trying and to prove she could be reliable. The lousy $3800.00(or whatever she got in taxes)isn’t really that much when you are raising three kids anyways so Tommy needs to shut his mouth about her blowing through the money so quick. Although he is right about her going to MA, she should have frigin waited until she was on her feet. It just goes to show you that she doesn’t have a clue about priorities. Someone said earlier that plane tickets are @ $400 for a adult and half of that for a child, it’s actually more than that now. Children are not much cheaper than a adult due to them needing a full seat like an adult. Children under 2 are free if they sit on a parents lap, there are only a few fee’s for them otherwise it’s not much of a difference. I don’t know why she stayed in a hotel if they were going to visit Timmy…kind of weird.
I don’t mean to pick on Lindsy but I am getting kind of tired of hearing how innocent poor Lindsy/Lindsay/Linsey(however she is spelling it now)is. The whole damn family is screwed up, every last one of them. Glad to hear she is divorcing Tommy but my guess is she is doing it b/c she has most likely found another guy or has her eye on one. She has gotten a lot cockier over the last couple of months and I feel he sensed he was losing her and you can also tell she likes teasing him and making him wonder. Like the tongue peircing she claims she was going to get and the reaction she got from him when she said she was getting it done. Everyone knows why people get them and it isn’t so they can wear a pretty earring, lol. A tongue ring should really help her find a proffesional job, stupid. She knows she is being recorded and still says stupid shit thinking she is cute. I guess it’s all of the stuff put together that has made me realize she isn’t much better than the rest of the clan. Oh well, guess it’s true when people say you can’t fix stupid, lol.
Hank Sr. and Lisa go to Court next week on the 13th the same day as Tommy and Ron.
Great post Loserville. Like Judge Judy says Beauty fades stupid is forever. LOL
I dont really know what you expect from these tapes Simon, what else do they have to talk about?? They are stuck in a cell 24×7 and have no communication w/ the outside world. You keep saying its all about “me” but from the last tapes I heard he was asking the family what they were doing and sending them pictures. I get it these people are trashy and not up to par in your eyes but it seems that every single word they say are being picked apart and if its something you dont think they should be saying you trash them on the internet. How about talking about Crystal not having custody of these kids in the first place and not able to tell what time her daughter gets out of school, How about why she didnt pay her child support and got 12k behind and ready to go to jail, it so one sided on this site. Lets look at everything and everybody and call it all out!!
Maybe Tommy can get a Thug hugging girlfriend like Ron has now that Lindsy is divorcing him.
And speaking of Ron why doesnt Putnam release his phone calls or is he sitting there in jail washing his boxers out and reading the bible and not communicating with anyone now. He knows he has to stay out of the public eye. We arent that easily manipulated as 17 year old girls are though. jmo
Lucy, They went to court on the 27th and got probation. Seems like they did a deal because Lisa can leave soon and so can Hank. jmo
I am sick of these people. All Tommy can say is the ‘F’word.
Lindsy did not file for divorce for the ususal reason – she did it to get financial assistance. That much is clear to me now.
AH has a new post up and the Croslin family has said they will answer questions LOL
I think we should all ask when they are going to confess.jmo
Thanks for the many hours spent getting these tapes to us, Simon and Jan.
Tommy may not be able to sleep because he is facing that LDT, and he knows he is going to fail. He knows he will probably lose LC and the children, when everything comes out. I do belive LC know some things, but I don’t thinks she knows even half of what went on. Something tells me that Chelsea is in on things more than LC.
That remark LC made about ToC’s parent not contributing to society, anyway, shows how tired she is getting of that whole family.
I think LC keeps mentioning talking to NG and Art Harris, because she really feels the need to tell people her side of this story. She is tired of keeping that family’s dirty little secrets. I look for her to come out and talk to the public soon. LC isn’t perfect, but she is so young, too with a mess on her hands.
I wonder if she will continue to take the children to see him, now that she has filed for divorce. I hope she stays away or she will get sucked right back into his web.
Lindsy’s looking for a man; has been since she decided 3 years was ‘a long time’ (jail house conversation with Tom in February) – too long to wait.
Her motivation is loneliness, not Tom’s drinking, or smoking weed (A-OK with her, judging from their conversations).
She says ‘at least I wown’t be lonely’ [if I move to Massachussetts].
The character flaws of stealing and drugging didn’t cause her to move on, but her loneliness will.
Working out at the gym, changed hair style, new clothes and her YouTube post about being lonely in this ‘ole bed’, she’s looking for Tom’s replacement.
I asked AH to ask GGma Hollar about Tommy’s and Joe’s tempers and their tendencies toward violence. GGma Hollar said she never was close to Tommy because he was too much like Hank, Sr., and I asked him to ask her to go into more detail about what that means.
Denise, ITA!!! To the people who are sick of hearing Tommy, stop listening! Nobody is making you. Try some perspective taking and think about how you might react to being locked up and isolated for three months. And then think about what the PCSO actually has on him, nothing that warrants solitary for three months. He’s not a “good guy” but basically he is a drug addict and petty thief that nobody would usually much care about.
And then there are the rumors about the PCSO and why they are doing what they are doing. More about that later.
Simon & Jan, Thank You so much for all the updates and audios! Thank you so much for taking time out of your busy work schedule to keep reporting on the Haleigh Case!
I know it must be very hard after working all day. You are truly appreciated!
I would also like to extend my gratitude to Armando…(Hope I got the name right)! For taking the time to go pick up the tapes, working the long hours uploading these Videos, and sharing the updates from the search of the St.John’s River.
Tobias, Where is the post that says the Croslin family will answer questions? I looked and couldn’t find it.
Thanks
Jason:
You are probably right about that, but I do think LC found out alot of things after that failed LDT and the search that she couldn’t stomach. I think she doesn’t think weed is so bad, but she really doesn’t like all of the drugging life-style. I think she was raised better than that, and she will go back to being more in line with the way she was raised.
Tobias, Lindsy loved on her thieving and drugging hubby while he was available.
He’s no longer available to bring home stolen merchandise, entertain the kids with walks to the park and baseball, etc., so she’s searching for his replacement.
dixie123:
That is on the art harris site at the very end of the first article on his site. You have to click on to the read more of that article and go all the way to the end of it.
Jason, I see your point about the way Lindsy is acting. These are the signs of a person who is getting ready to have an affair also. She may be thinking of cashing in on this too. Seeems to work for some in the news lately. She may be the one who will write the know all book, I feel she is too close to AH and LP to be trusted. jmo
As for Tommy’s involvement in HaLeigh’s disappearance, all we really know is what Flora Hollars said that Tommy and Misty told her. I don’t think Flora Hollars is a liar but I do think that she is a confused woman. There is a letter from her granddaughter Kayla, Joe Overstreet’s sister, that you should read before you go too far with what she says—
(I’ll post the link separately so that this can post without pending link check.)
THE LETTER #1
I am Joe Overstreet’s sister, granddaughter of Flora Hollars. Before yall go and start believing all these stories that Joe had something to do with Haleigh yall need to relize who’s stories has changed everytime they have talk to someone..Now my Grandmother want to get involved yall can’t believe her either she is just out to try and get some money out of people..She is already receiving money from alot of people in Florida that is the only reason she is talking..One minute she will tell Joe that she knows he didn’t do it then turn around and tell Misty and Tommy the same thing..Joe is innocent,he had nothing to do with this..He was on vacation and was planned to leave on Feb. 10 2009 just as he did.. He did not just up and leave he talk to the police before he left..Misty and Tommy and also my grandmother is crazy..Before the law believes anything that my grandmother Flora Hollars say they need to do a drug test on her to make sure she is not doped up and knows what she is talking about… She is only out to try and get a reward… She will change her story just as much as Tommy and Misty will..My brother was just in the wrong place at the wrong time..He is a good guy. Tommy and Misty just thinks they will get a plea if they try and blame it on someone else..And also if Tommy made the call to my Grandmother that him and Joe had done that to Haleigh why was that phone call not recorded all the rest of them are..I would not put it past my grandmother to make something like that up..She is a very selfish lady that is just out for money and attention…
Karon,
Thank you for the answer!
Simon, were you able to tell who Tommy was talking about with Eddie? He mentioned someone being in the car with Lyndsey? Asked when she would be going home? The other inmate calls her LULU now since they want to keep the name secret. TIA
What I heard…we all hear things a little different. LOL
Tommy said he has not slept in 2 days, back hurts and the mattress is uncomfortable. 14 days until his next court day, I assume he is talking about March 31ST court date. Complains that he is so tired.
Tells Lyndsey she really looks good today. She says his hair looks really good.
Lyndsey said that Chelsea and Tim have tried calling Hank and Lisa but they will not answer the phone or text. Lyndsey has been trying to call as well and they won’t take her calls/text either. She said they call Nanny, but will not take anybody else’s calls. Lynsey said she wrote them a nasty letter,says that she told them it sucks that she can’t depend on her, especially with her driving out there in the van with the kids.
Lynsey tells Tommy that Lisa (her friend) is the one that has been helping her watch the kids.
Tommy said his parents are not taking his calls either. He wonders what is up with his parents. He said they must be getting high or on a binge. Says they must be messing with that Ch*t again. She said she doesn’t know what the deal is, nobody can get in touch with them. That they need to pay her the money they owe her so he can get some more money
Tommy says it must suck for Misty not getting visits or calls from Hank and Lisa.
Lyndsey tells him about her friend Lisa getting her tongue pierced. Tommy tells Lindsy she better not get any piercing because it’s uncalled for. It’s stupid. Lindsy ask why over and over…sounds as if she already got something pierce. He then tells her to wait until he comes home.
Tommy tells Lynsey he got the pictures and letters but only read the one. Said Layla looks cute, but Lynsey can send him some better ones. She asked him if he saw the new bed spread he said it’s cute. She asked again about the pictures and he says she could send better ones..then he said he loves them. He tells her he was hoping she came that night so that he could see Austin, but she is going to a t-ball game.
Lindsey threatens to call Art Harris, to tell him some juicy info about Hank and Lisa, that they borrowed money, that they (cut?), could not tell what she said because Tommy interrupted her and told her not to do that. Lynsey says NAG would love to hear about since she has nothing else to report at this time.
Lyndsey said she was to call Steven Brown and Tommy’s attorney that day as well. That he mother told her that Tommy would not be a candidate for drug court. He says he didn’t sell no F*N drugs anyway.
The video didn’t show anything and his attorney is trying to get another video to see what it shows. Tommy said he didn’t’t sell any drugs, that they were not his drugs. Then says, if you think about it they weren’t ’t mine he says.
Tommy tells Lyndsey that he will probably get 18months…most 3 yrs, but his attorney feels he may only get 18 months. Tommy hopes he doesn’t have to do 36 months.
Tommy says I wish I could Tell you…Lyndsey says…I know, you don’t have to tell me anything.
Lyndsey tells him that Sharon will be coming to visit Tommy from out of town the week she is in MA or on his court date.
Lyndsey tells Tommy not to let his parents come visit him because they will waste her minutes, he says OK he will not come out of his cell since she is not coming until Thursday. Tells-him that she is taking spin classes and goes to the gym.
Tommy tells her he needs more money for Canteen, Lyndsey tells him he must owe some people some money in there.He talks about how they will charge him $10.00 for taking care of his tooth. (I wish that is all I had to pay.) And how much pain he is in…looks like he must be having some with drawls, back pains, tooth pains, can’t sleep….
Lyndsey wants Tommy to ask to be moved to Flaglar county.
The start talking about Hank and Lisa again, wonder why they are not taking anyone’s calls. Only Nanny’s (Hollars).
Tommy says that he feels that his parents are messing with that ch*t again and feels that is why they are avoiding everybody.
Lindsy talks about being over at her mother’s house, kids rode the horse and how she feed him chicken noodle soup, but she did not ride him.
Tommy slips and says someones name (the name is redacted), it is someone that is in the car watching the kids..not the friend Lisa though. Another inmate asked about her and told Tommy to have her come in and visit. Lyndsey says something about not being able to since she is from out of state?
Hmmm. I wonder who the SHE is? Sounds as if Chelsea was in town during this time IMO. Tommy slipped and said “A” name, said she (?) was in the car watching the kids that day. Lynsey tells him not to say her name because she will have to hear about it on NAG since Chelsea was going to be on NAG. Who ever it was that was there Lynsey didn’t want her name mention because she didn’t want it coming out. He asked when the “she” was leaving and Lyndsey said probably before she leaves for MA.
I wonder…Was Chelsea was in Florida, I wonder if Timmy came also? Maybe that is why Lyndsey went to MA, to drive Chelsea and Timmy back? I wonder why Chelsea needed to come to FL? I wonder if LE knew she was there? Did Chelsea come back to make sure something wasn’t found? Take care of some unfinished business? Did Misty and Chelsea have a plan in case Misty ever ended up in jail? Hmmm…my hinky meter is real high!
Lyndsey says the kids are having a hard time dealing with Tommy being in jail.
Lyndsey says that she will move to what ever county the prison is in so she can be closer to to him.
Tommy says that he misses the kids and that is why he wishes he was just put in prison because at least he would be able to see the kids.
Lyndsey tells him that Sharon and Dustin will be moving to Florida.
Lyndsey asked him if she can send him a book on recover for addiction, but he wants her to sign him up for some fishing magazines so he can get received some magazines.
The other inmate tells him the only thing he catches when he goes fishing is a buzz…Tommy laughs.
Lyndsey talks more about he book how another lady recommended it because she lost a nephew due to drug OD. Tommy says to go on-line and try and get the book store to send it.
He asked her how this lady contacted her, Lynsey tells him that the lady got the phone number from the T.V. she is from Maryland and she is really nice. Tommy gets pi-st, says there are nuts out there with their phone number and says that it’s not right to publish their numbers like that, he sounds worried.
Link to Kayla Overstreet’s comment about her grandmother:
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/04/13/talk-to-tommy/comment-page-1/#comment-122369
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Kayla // April 15, 2010 at 11:43 pm
Jason:
What you and Tobias are saying has a point. She is getting ready to break loose, that;s for sure. LC was very young and foolish, and we will see what she does on her own, without Tommy, now.
Karon, Lindsy doesn’t have a problem with leaving her children with her hubby while he is smoking weed.
Weed delays reactions. In an emergency, such as a fire, or one of the children running into the street – it would take him longer to react.
Dumb isnt the word for someone who has 3 kids by the age of 23 to a drug addicted loser. Those kids are lucky they were born healthy. Tommy claims to have been on the pills for 2 years but I think its really more like 4 if you go back in the records they lived in Flagler when she filed domestic abuse on him annd she wasnt yet married to him. The oldest boy was born before they got married and Tommy had charges of non support against him by her, yet she married him GO FIGURE. JMO
If misty is innocent, what is she innocent of, I wonder.
Innocent of participating, covering up, lying(we know that’s not true)…what is she innocent of? Why would an innocent person lie to LE over this?
I don’t know what exactly happened becasue I wasn’t there nor do we have video/audio, other than the shaky 911 call, but I do believe, with all the good and bad evidence, she knows what happened.
We know misty isn’t innocent of drug trafficking, we can see that with our own eyes.
We know she has failed polygraphs for some reason.
Kate, I’ve listened to Flora interviewed by JVM, NG and Levi Page, and I read the letter Kayla wrote, which was edited for spelling, as it containsed many errors, according to the person she sent it to.
I’ve also listened to Chelsea accuse Flora of lieing, and read Lindsy’s derogatory posts about Flora (grandma ‘Hollar and Scream’, ‘borderline retard’).
Kayla: Defending her brother Joe; bashing her grandmother.
Lindsy: Defending her husband Tom; bashing her grandmother in-law.
Chelsea: Defending her ‘foster child’ and sister-in-law; bashing her grandmother-in-law.
And why would LE want to hammer misty for less than ethical reasons? Why not tommy, why not ron, they’ve had more trouble in the past from those two than misty.
Kate, Flora said on the Levi Page show that her daughter Lisa called and cursed her out [because she was angry that Flora reported what she was told about two of Lisa’s children], but called back later and apologized.
9 more days I wonder if Tommy is sleeping now?
And yes if you sit around doing nothing all day but eating honey buns and chips you arent going to sleep very well. I hope if he is involved that he has nightmares and the rest of them too. jmo
Lindsy, they call marijuana ‘dope’ for a reason. Leaving your children with a drunk or doped person is dangerous.
You don’t have a problem with Tom, Chelsea and Tim getting ‘doped’ on marijuana. OK if your new heart-throb does?
Cakra and Southern,I am fed up with the whining too,the giggles,Lindsey is pure dang childish,like art wants what she knows,lol almost funny,i can’t take those 2 giggling and i love u in every sentence!no matter what he says….
Tobias,
Lindsy mentions Chelsea, Tim, and marijuana; Chelsea mentioned pills laying arond at the MH.
Has me wondering about the ‘grow room(s) at the MH’ rumor. Any thoughts about it?
Jason said,in May 4th, 2010 at 3:54 pm Lindsy shows no respect to her in-laws or Flora Hollars.
I agree Jason,all these damn ppl lined up to get what they could and now biting the hand tthat fed them when they had not a cent between all of em together!
btw…..I am smart enough to know you don’t take nursing classes in a family full of druggies,Stupid…..I am sorry but it is plumb stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!
MADJGNLAW said,in May 4th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
now he has dogged his parents who btw “will be all he has when Lindsey divorces his sorry ass! Sorry guys but it gets to me!
I believe AH and LP are getting played for fools by the two sister in laws. They are trying to muddy the waters for their hubbys and now Lindsy will use them to get money from peoplewho pity her. T he thing is if they look at the records she got pregnant with the first before she married this dead beat and she had a domestic and non pay for child support too. Then she turns around and marries him. He was a druggie then too. jmo
MADJGNLAW said,in May 4th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
btw great post!
CathyJo, I’m happy to see you’re still checkin’ in!
Her giggles are ridculous; she sounds like a 12 year old.
I could hug you Tobias,lol AMEN!
i GOT MY NEW PC NOW,NOT A RENTAL jASON,LOL But my bro is staying with me till his divorce is on the way and he gets a job here! so when hes gone i gotta come see my buddies,16 yrs is a long time not to have seen each other or spoken,didn’t know where he was,nor did he me!
we met once 16 yrs ago but only a day or 2 ya know!we were both.well with 2 more were all adopted in diff states!
Tobias @ 6:51 pm: Good post!
olord Jason,its hard not to be here,lol but i don’t want my bro getting all depressed thinking i don’t have time for him too,lol
I can’t believe Liindsey and tommy,i did have some faith in Lindsey atleast but i dunno now,she’s just childish..imoho
she does sound 12,he’s telling her,no tattoo,get a job,wants her to save every dime for him,he cares more about the dog than his family,ya know,I love pets too but my god!
Cathy, If this happened to any one of us you can bet that money would not be going for $90 bed linens,phone cards, commisary,or tatoos.
We would spend it on bills and food, make it last as long as we could. I sure wouldnt be broadcasting any of the things she is when she knows people are listening. UNLESS SHE WANTS MONEY.AND ITS TAX FREE UNDECLAIRED TO ASSISTANCE MONEY. PEOPLE PLEASE DONT BE TAKEN BY THEM DONT SEND MONEY TO PEOPLE CASHING IN ON HALEIGH. JMO
I suppose I want to hold out a little hope for someone in this case. Believe, me, I am seeing big mistakes that LC is making. For one, having that little boy at the jail listening to all of ToC’s cursing, lying, denying, and blaming everything he did on the cops. I thought, that little boy is learning firsthand how to be just like his father, and he will be in the same place as his father, if she isn’t very careful.
tobia,i’d bet all i own today if tommy were cleared(yea right) lol but anyhoo and went home,he’d be on pills tonight! he ain’t sorry for a dang thang!
well,i take that back,he’s sorry alright!
he’d make a damn good argument for birth control!jmo
Thanks Miss Betty, it was a long winded post, I think I have pms so I really let it all out, lol.
Lindsy filed for divorce for financial reasons? Do they get more financial assistance if they are divorced in Florida? I figured if her husband was if jail she would get the same as if she were single. If she filed for financial gain to rip off the system she is worse than I thought. It makes me sick to think of how people take advantage of the system.
Does anybody think LE will be making arrests before Ron and Tommy go to court on the 13th?
Cathy , I know you are right. Listen to the other prisoner he chats with they talk about the good old days of getting a buzz and fishing. He is even dreaming about it, Lindsy talks about his home coming like its gonna be a honeymoon and he says booze and food. LOL
honey i pray no one sends them a dang thing,time to make them sweat,its been a game from day one with these people,Tobias the day my husband passed i had 113 bux to my name….no insurance whatsoever..he’d been disabled a few weeks before and had no job,left our home cause i couldn’t pay for it…..lindsey has it alot better than that!and i’d say TOM you put yourself here and our kids aint suffering for you anymore!Thats what a decent mom would do Tobias,me and you would i’d bet on!
New PC – I’m happy for you! Wonderful that you and your brother can re-connect after so many years. You probably have so much to talk about with him – wow, I can only imagine how blessed both of you probably feel.
Have you thought about making plans for a reunion with the others this summer?
Miss Betty, I think some will be talking as much as they can since Hope got 15 and Tommy got served papers.jmo
i can’t imagine spending 60 bux for a tattoo,and its only to brand her cause he’s in jail,honestly ya know!
LOL CathyJo @ 6:57 pm: Have him join in – share the computer with him.
You would think there would be some word of serious concerns regarding the safety of their children. Why, don’t we hear any conversation regarding this? If the murder has not be caught wouldn’t a parent be scared? I would expect to hear about making sure the doors and windows are always locked and maybe even about getting a burglar alarm? Everyone seems to think all is safe there.
Karon,thats how i felt,his little face was well,i dunno.almost blank but yet something i can’t pinpoint! so sad!
Cathy, Also when he talks about Lisa and Hank being on a bender its almost like he is jealous. He thinks that immediately not that something may have happened to them. jmo
Jason,I will before long,he’s been so depressed ya know,theres 2 sides to every story but he loves her so much but like tommy,she’d rather have a pill down her throat and him working 2 jobs to enable the habit,sad!
tobias said,in May 4th, 2010 at 7:06 pm Cathy , I know you are right. Listen to the other prisoner he chats with they talk about the good old days of getting a buzz and fishing. He is even dreaming about it, Lindsy talks about his home coming like its gonna be a honeymoon and he says booze and food. LOL
Disgusting Tobias!!!!!!! exactly!!! before it was i won’t do nothing ever again,now he’ll drink and smoke a joint….how stupid does he think ppl are!
Karon @ 7:02: I agree, and I’m afraid Austin is feeling responsible for helping his mother. Emotional incest is what I see. They’re letting him be concerned about their problems.
Lindsy has made a change towards Misty big time did anyone catch the snide remark? TOO BAD SO SAD when Tommy says she wont have any visitors? I wonder how her trip went in Mass if she feels this way about Misty? jmo
CathyJo said: “before it was I won’t do nothing ever again, now he’ll drink and smoke a joint”.
Uh-huh!
to be honest Jason,he never met our sister Betty but i did and omg..you don’t wanna know believe me,he and i both have met the older brother….again you don’t wanna know……..i wish i could say it was great,we got what we always dreamed of ya know but it ain’t always greener but he still wants to meet betty and i understand why,i don’t want him not to b/c of how i feel after searching for yrs and the whole bottom fell out from under us! unbelieveable and as much as i am sure you guys know me by now,i’d still be scared todeath to tell you,ya know!
it’s that bad! we were given up at age,1,2,3,4! But since i met Ted i felt the connection and i tried hard to believe me with betty and roger but impossible!
But hey Lindsy says its okay its legal to drink so its okay. He cant stay with her either she will enable his behavior. Its better for both of them to be apart. imho
Maybe their adopted families weren’t loving like mine in alot of ways ya know,I’m not saying its their fault,theyve been through alot too but somewhere you have to stop blaming everybody else and find some kind of peace with it,ya know cause ya can’t erase what was done!
CathyJo @ 7:11 pm: Austin’s face is full of worry. He’s a child worried about his mother because his mother behaves like a child instead of an adult parent.
tobias,Does tommy know yet,the divorce or do you think its planned between them,sorry i just haven’t caught up yet! lol
OMG,Exactltly Tobias,b/c he can’t get a pill!
its like drag em down with me.shewww
OMG,Exactltly Tobias,b/c he can’t get a pill!
its like drag em down with me.shewww
He was served on the 30th but nothing final on the docket. She filed on the 29th I believe.
I bet he refuses to sign it and she has to go to court. jmo
OMG Jason,thats the honest God’s truth! if there’d been a bottle of amonia sitting around,he’d have drunk it and been laying on the floor while they giggle,tix me off so bad!People plan their kids and even if they don’t plan them,my God put them before anyone else whatsoever!
They just make me sick… why would she tell NG & Art about them not paying her back? She is liking her new-found celebrity status.
Tom told Lindsy to reprimand Austin when Austin yelled.
What he yelled came through very loud, as though he yelled it into the phone, to Tom.
Tom didn’t like what he said, and immdediately told Lindsy to reprimand Austin.
Tobias,i swear i thought i’d just cam over when she said that!!!!! she’s an enabler and its sad! those poor little babies!
BA,My thought exactly and getting herself all in shape for an appearance on NG watch and see if she doesnt try to get on the show soon. jmo
Heya Adams,
I am mad about it too,pure stupidity!
Got a question. I was told earlier today that there is a possibility that Ron Cummings went undercover before the drug bust. That he was working with the police in this matter and it appeared that the plan has worked. Now I have not heard that from any source until today while talking to a relative who lives in Florida via long distance. She says there are tons of rumors so this can not be substantiated but it has been said. I had thought of that a while back myself but could find no reason to be sure about it. In thinking, it could have happened that way certainly. Ron married Misty during the beginning search for his daughter, was that in hopes of getting info from her? Must not have worked since he quickly divorced her so something has not been made public in my opinion. And rumor has it that indeed the LE is keeping Mistys parents from visiting her in hopes of making her break. She is one tough cookie that may never break under pressure so I feel they are wasting time with this scheme but I may be fooled by this. I am sure there is evidence that we are not aware of, there is no perfect murder and something has been left untouched or unlearned so far. They may already have what they need but still need to have it confessed. I know good and well that LE has all kinds of tricks up the sleeve and I await each day to see what the new trick of the day is. I just pray that soon, the pressure will take over and cause a complete spill of the truth if Misty even knows the definition of that word. The whole family appears dummer than a box of rocks so why would I expect to see anything out of them that might make sense? I just want this all out in the open and solved for little Haleigh.
oh ok,ty Tobias,you said maybe it was financial so i thought,omg they have it planned!she’ll be dumb enough to take him back!
CathyJo, I can understand his desire to meet her, too – at least once.
if anything Tobias,alcohol should be illegal!
Adams,i know why,maybe lp will pay it and buy HER a car…ungrateful ppl!
exactly right Jason! Me too! absolutely!!
Nanna,I pray you’re right…..for Haleigh’s sake too,even i had thought of that b/c misty was in full control with the uc! I just dunno,nothing can shock me now!
Lindsy is a LPN she had to take courses in all this to be a nurse, she knows what addiction is and she doesnt care. I dont think Tommy had any control over her she is too out spoken for that. She just did what she wanted and let him do what he wanted. Now that its out for everyone to see its now different because it ruins her life. Everyone felt sorry for her but she could have walked away along time ago, her family has money they would have helped her leave if she wanted to. jmo
we never even hear about him now..period for such a high profile case!
right Tobias,i ASSUME her parents have no love for Tommy,lol right??? i never heard them mentioned till today!
Adams,it reminded me of tattling in school!lol
Thank you for the tapes… I truly think Lindsy is no better than the rest of this clan… I posted earlier, I think she is incredibly narcissistic, they talk more about a piercing than their son’s t-ball game….. Lindsy seems to have a real attachment to NG and AH, wanting to make sure her tattoo will show well on camera….. and several times of I/this will be on NG or telling TC she will call AH to get her money?? or more appropriately attention….. and of course the never ending yawns from this lazy … beyond lazy bunch.. Lindsy has to roll out of bed at 830am after her 5 yr old gets himself fed and dressed…..and”mom” is way too tired to do anything else…….. they truly make me beyond crazy.
I hope to god NG and AH will not give her or any of these people any more of a forum on television…. obviously that is all they want…..more attention and a “Lindsy Bombshell”….here’s a thought, try taking care of your children, since she doesn’t have to work……nor does she contribute anymore to society than her in-laws… a welfare woman with 3 children…… husband in jail..(trying to act like a celebrity).and a precious child HaLeigh no longer living. PLEASE Lindsy… focus a bit more on your kids, rather than trying to be the CNN Headline news……. beyond pathetic.
Perhaps I am most disappointed in myself, because I haven’t a clue of what to do…. and my heart aches for the children stuck with these lunatics….
Tobias @ 7:20 pm: Lindsy has made numerous smide remarks about his family (Flora is a ‘borderline retard’, remark about Lisa’s letter to Tom, her desire to embarrass Hank and Lisa by having Nancy Grace/Leonard Padilla spread her ‘juice’ about them . . .).
She’s talking about her children’s relatives.
If LE was only after Misty and Tommy they had them on Tape with the UC before Ron and Hope ever entered the drug deals. Look back at the incident report dates. Ron and Hope got involved later in the deals. jmo
maybe she stands up to him now cause he can’t squeeze through those bars,lol sorta not funny but sorta is too!
Tommy is romancing the drugs and the lifestyle bigtime. Cathyjo your right he would be right back at it if he was out. how pathetic that he isn’t taking the time in jail away from his kids and family to realize whats important in life. It made me sick when he wanted Linsey to have a bottle of liquor waiting. I hope he is in jail a long time
JNet @ 7:46 pm: She’s not too tired for gym. Toning up her body is important right now because she wants to find a replacement for Tom.
bingo jason,Grand parents.my goodness!
ya gotta think because if lindsey lets say got in a car wreck and passed away then who does the kids have???shame!
omg Chak,its all i could do not to bawl!
A FELON which TC will be if convicted. Once released on parole cannot have alcohol or WEED or any unlegal drug in their system or their parole will be revolked. Parole officers DO test for this regularly with drug convictions. These people are past stupid.
yesterday the audio tommy said,lindsey make joe pay his part and something to the effect of not bugging hank about it buttttttttt today he thinks theyre getting high and he’s telling her to make them pay cuz he needs it??? ya know,boils my blood!
Jason, That shouldnt be too hard to do. Even if she weighed 200lbs. she could pull off finding a replacement. I think she is getting her self in shape for other reasons. She is gonna be a star listen to how she talks about people coming up to her and recognizing her.
She is gonna try to cash in some way on this watch and see. jmo
If Lyndsey is an LPN, what was she going to class for the night Haleigh went missing?
Jason, you are so right…. the only enthusiasm I have heard is about her new tatoo, all the classes the Y has to offer, her new friends, and THANK GOD the weary soul can now drop her children off to daycare… whew she does need her naps…. of course before she goes to work out. And before she calls AH or NG to tell on her in-laws for whatever injustice they have done to her. I think the entire family is so very irresponsible in every way…… I am just weary of people talking about Lindsy like she is a saint. But then it probably doesn’t take much in that family to be the “semi-normal” one..
lol Judith,you said it! until he told the truth i wouldn’t even bring his kids to the jail to see him!
rofl,so do i Tobias…..and you can tell tommy don’t like that either…..what coox!
i don’t even think “one flew over the cuckoos nest tops this!
CathyJo, whether she likes it or not, Flora is her children’s great grandmother, Lisa and Hank are their grandparents, Tom is their father. Divorcing Tom won’t change that.
I trust Flora Hollars to parent the children better than Lindsy.
me too Cathyjo, He is sittin in his little cell tryin to control everything AND still have money for his honeybun account!!!
She said,didn’t you like my pix? good grief!
Remember when Hank said before that Lindsey would move to the next man,i guess he was right,lol which i don’t blame her for divorcing him but a bit soon to move on!
She said,didn’t you like my pix? good grief!
Remember when Hank said before that Lindsey would move to the next man,i guess he was right,lol which i don’t blame her for divorcing him but a bit soon to move on!
Jen M- I think she was still in school for nursing IIRC
Tobias @ 7:57 pm: LOL! I see what you mean. Her YouTube channel is a sure give-away, too! Plastered with a background of a repeating image of herself, in addition to re-posts of jail house videos of her and Tom (originally posted her at BNN by Simon) another media video of just herself, and one with her and Tom.
If Simon had posted images with the audio of the last few days, she probably would have those posted on her YouTube channel by now!
I don’t care how bad we think a parent is, it is cruel to suggest to not let the kids see them. This is how people play games with their kids and ‘use them’ to get what they want. Sorry, but kids aren’t to be used for adult purposes and the courts do not like that behavior either. I don’t care what Lyndsy thinks of Tom, that is still their Dad, like it or not. Now, while I understand the thought process behind not wanting to let him have any privleges or pleasure, she should put the kids first, not her feelings and thoughts.
It amazes me the people on here complaining that she doesn’t put her kids first, but then say contradictive things like that.
Yes, I do think it would be appropriate to let them visit him, etc., but then when she is talking on the phone to him, they should be in another room.(esp. given their conversations). To me, that is irresponsible on both their parts and can be damaging from what they overhear. But suggesting that she act out even further? Wrong!! Besides, why bring the kids into this at all?
So, back to the adults, k. I understood that Chelsea had an agreement with Hank Sr for paying her back. He is making excuses and dragging other people into it. Yes, she is angry because she wants her money and they are playing games with her. She needs to stand up for herself. So what if NG knows. Maybe that will let them know that they can’t pull this crap on her. Besides, Tommy keeps telling her to stick up for herself and quit letting people walk all over her….so maybe now is her chance.
its pathetic Chakra,
worries about his dog though!
Jason,not even death changes that..you’re right!
she didn’t care to tell n/g she would only wear a robe when she came to get him,lol just crazy!!
I just have to think that there is some motivation for the divorce either that or she found out something pretty bad regarding Tommy’s involvement in Haleigh that we don’t know yet
she now calls misty everything but a milk cow and theres a video of her and lisa on a porch while ah interviewed them,she said,no misty isn’t lying she just doesn’t reealize what she says,or something to that effect!
who knows what she could have found in her own house,she was working the night Haleigh went missing wasn’t she??? i may be wriong,lol!
So….
50.00 cable
50.00 insurance
50.00 phone
200.00 electric
food stamps that you KNOW they get, but no govt checks because the kids have a mom and dad.
Does she pay rent???? No mention of rent just 50 here and there.
sounds like she is spending more than just on bills, and NO i’m not on Tommy’s side nor agree with him about the money, but she kept repeating 50.00 for three bills.
hmmmmmmm
Jason I can not find these YouTube posts….Where are they? What are they under?Please and Thank you!
and i wonder too now if she didn’t give his boots to le,but told him she threw them away!
ya CathyJo she left that out of the NG and art harris BOMBSHELL LOL LOL
Did she really file for divorce? I thought it was Lisa Croslin and Hank who filed the end of April.
So what, she knows he’s going to jail for years, why not file? Can’t she collect child support from the state if he is in prison after she divorces him?
Question said,in May 4th, 2010 at 8:22 pm So….
Ive never had 3 bills the same amt in my life,lol
I know Flora Hollers sounds like a backwoods Tennessee hillbilly. But so far what I’ve heard from her I think she’s just telling it like it is, and is tired of the lies coming from her family spread all over national news. I think she’s been dealing with this dysfunctional bunch for decades. Maybe I’m wrong been wrong before. She doesn’t seem to give any slack to anyone in her family who might be involved. At least she’s questioning their actions. They all keep bringing her name up in their phone conversations. Maybe they won’t now after she’s gone public.
Chakra,Invision it now……70 yrs old,maybe by then,lol and media will no doubt be there,lol
No, the State will not pay child support payments. They will just mount up and then be owed when he gets out.
Thats true Judith!
nurses aint all that..the one I dated got drunk with me every night, smoked pot and pocketed pain pills her patients didn’t take. Then when I left her she stole sum of my stuff.
being a “nurse” does not equal florence nightengale.
JenM, Consumer laws don’t permit creditors to broadcast debts to strangers.
Doesn’t matter whether Tom and Lisa borrowed $10 or $10,000 – it’s illegal for a commercial lender to do what Lindsy wishes NG/LP would do.
She lent her homeless in-laws a few hundred bucks from their son’s tax refund a couple months ago, and they haven’t her back.
Now she seeks revenge on her in-laws by having Nancy Grace and Leonard Padilla criticize them on nationwide television because they ‘owe’ Lindsy.
I’m a hillbilly too and it makes ya tough,lol
Leonard, my in-laws owe me money! Marlaina, pick-up! I have some ‘juice’ on my in-laws!
LOL that will be great television Cathyjo just think we only have to wait 50 years but my eyes are burning with the thought of Linsey in a robe and Tommy swiggin liquor. LOL LOL LOL
Oj,one stole a hundred dollar bill out of my purse in the hospital when i lost my baby at that………..careless!
JenM said,in May 4th, 2010 at 8:27 pm No, the State will not pay child support payments. They will just mount up and then be owed when he gets out.
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Are you sure? Wouldn’t it be in the form of welfare that she could collect and then Tommy would be responsible for paying it back??? That’s what I’ve always heard.
BOMBSHELL!
Lisa and Hank, a homeless couple from Florida, borrowed money a couple months ago and have not paid it back on time!
BOMBSHELL!
rofl Chakra,jerk out the iron and starch!
Lindsy, there’s a reason banks don’t lend money to homeless people who don’t have jobs.
Just sayin’.
JenM in my state the children do get welfare support NOT child support but once the parent is released they are responible to repay the state. They will even put an attachment on tax returns once they are employed until the balance is paid or back to jail for non child support.
rofl@Jason……like its the first time,rofl
Jason,they’ll pitch a tent in Padillas yard!
come on lyndsy..their dead broke, of course they can’t pay you back! But you have a softtouch grandpa you can rely on as a safety net..that got zip and are lookin at time.
You revealed your nasty side wanting to EMBARASS them on NG, like their names aren’t already mud.. Your a BEYOTCH!
you have to have an address too don’t you Jason? what i have always thought!
lol oj,just before that she says,I can’t count on em to keep the kids when i come here and then wants to hang them!
It’s called for Aid for Dependent Children (ADC) and the Mother and Father cannot be married. There go, the divorce.
Now let’s see what happens with the visits and the telephone calls. Let’s see if Lindsey knows what fraud is…..Although as long as Tommy is in jail, I don’t think they could get her on fraud.
I can’t stand it when ppl say something happened to their chiild in others care and then ask em to babysit……….foolish!
enjoyed the talk,Teds back,lol I’ll bbs!
stilllucy @ 8:23; In addition to the comments on her YouTube channel, you can read what she left on channels of people who left comments on her channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/LindsyLPN
CathyJo63 is the tent they’ll pitching be in the county in CA where MJ is freely obtained and smoked. ROFLMAO
haha! all of DM media appearences the last couple days, not mentioning Caylee and talking about himself made someone mad! I didn’t even notice when i watched him on insessions friday that he didn’t even mention the victims name of the case he’s supposed to be blogging about–he was on national TV at the expense of a murdered child and never even mentioned her name?? he has lost credibility!
I am ashamed to say that I am a poster–until today, that is.
http://thenewdaymare.blogspot.com/2010/05/marinade-dave-your-goose-is-cooked-care.html
CathyJo, you’re right! Lindsy played loan officer and approved the loan even though a bank wouldn’t have based on things like a reference check, employment, residence. Now she’s playing break-the-law debt collector!
tommy is a control freak and if his wife has any sense, she will divorce and never look back. what trash!
Wouldn’t it be funny if Nancy Grace did air ‘the juice’ about Lindsy’s homeless debtors, and donations rolled in for them, not Lindsy!
I am amazed that everyone sits and listens to conversations between Lindsy and Tommy and then critisize the subjects they talk about. What would you talk about if you knew every word you said was being listened to and disected by complete strangers. I am sure there are many things they would like to discuss but can’t because their attorney has advised them not to, or because they feel awkward sharing anything that they do not want to be broadcast on the national news.
Maybe Lindsy’s giggle, which irritates some of you, is because she feels awkward knowing she can’t speak freely and that every word that comes out of her mouth is being judged.
I think the reason LE has not charged anyone in this case is because they know that under Florida’s Sunshine Law (which I think is a very big mistake) they would have to release all evidence to the media. I am sure they know exactly what happened to HaLeigh and are just sealing the fate of whoever is responsible by gathering as much evidence as possible without being forced to share it with a nation full of voyuers.
Sorry, but listening to Tommy and Lindsy is not going to solve the HaLeigh case. While Tommy is doing a pretty good job convicting himself on the drug charges, anything he says about HaLeigh will be redacted long before the tapes are released, so what is the real purpose of listening to the tapes. Cheap entertainment at the expense of Lindsy and her children?
Hope you enjoy your evening with Ted, CathyJo!
OJ @ 8:40 pm: Good post!
cheryl,
Freedom of Speech is wonderful — God bless America where we all can have different opinions, argue among each other, and come away with a better understanding of others that live among us.
Don’t sweat the small stuff – there is just too much big stuff out there that we all have to deal with.
Be happy,
Ann
Ann
Amen, God Bless America……..
Justice for HaLeigh
Looks like a lot of people are begining to realize that Lindsy isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer. I do think she came from a half way decent family that has somewhat enabled her by giving her a place to live more than once and must help her financially judging by the way Tommy was telling her to ask them for money before she got the taxes back. I think I read somewhere that she was a only child raised by her father. Sounds like they finally have started laying down the law as far as the Croslin crew goes. She isn’t allowed to have the Croslin move into her grandfather’s condo while she is living their although they did allow them to mooch in the past when they all moved in the other house on Tyler St. They probably should have done the tough love thing a long time ago, if they weren’t working and pulling their own weight then her family should have booted them out on their butts. I doubt that they made Lindsy pay rent although I would bet that even if they did make them pay rent it wouldn’t get paid anyways. I know a girl I went to school with who moved into her grandparents home with her husband and kids and helped take care of them for a year so they didn’t have to go in a nursing home, she was paid almost a thousand dollars to be there for them and all of the household bills were paid out of the grandparents money. Needless to say the grandparents had to move into a nursing home within a year due to her neglecting them and her kids being verbally abusive towards them(gotta love hearing a 6 year old call his great grandfather a f’n ahole)now her mom and aunt are the owners of the house but this freaking girl won’t move out. She was supposed to pay $200 dollars a month to her mother to cover the taxes but she never would pay it. Now 6 years later she is still in the house with her 5 kids and the house is trashed and literally falling apart. The house was in great condition when they moved in but they refuse to do one thing to the house b/c it isn’t their house. Her mother actually put the house up for sale but after listening to the guilt trip about not having a place to live she backed out. She also takes full advantage of getting over $800 in food stamps every month although her husband is working a decent job, she lied about paying rent and forged her aunts name so she could get more food stamps. She refuses to work saying it is her choice and she can do what she wants, which is true but when you have to rely on free school breakfast/lunches and she has to get food stamps and medicaid it starts becoming a poor choice. Oops started to get off track but listening to Lindsy reminds me of this girl.
I didn’t have time to read all the comments, but one thing I caught was Tommy saying he did coke and snorted pills (one thing they do is crush up adhd meds and narcotics and stuff and snort it for a faster high) and it sounded like Lyndsay didn’t know he was doing everything and for as long as he claimed.
It goes to show by him wanting to move the the town that was like Amsterdam, and his words that he is not going to stop smoking pot and prob. won’t quit anything else. Oh, ya – also because he said he is hurting from jonesing and dreaming of pills. I really think at this point Lyndsay is fishing for info and dirt and will use it against them all soon for her own gain. She is smart, but for some reason lets him boss her around, which is probably why she wasn’t strong enough to leave him before. I hope she gets some supportive friends because she sounds like such a nice caring person besides all the drama from her husband etc. I hope she takes a stand and makes it a good one!
I personally get tired of them acting like the pills are bad. IT IS NOT THE PILLS! It is the person. These meds are so beneficial to people that do not have addictive personalities, that I know as a cancer patient, many people who would have died without them and who will need them for the rest of their lives. If you have an addictive personality, they try to not put you on them, which is why they are to have a psychological screening every now and then, but depending on the doctor, they may not care because they may be flat out a bad doc. That should not make the docs who are out there saving lives put in a bad light at all. Nor, should it put these pills or people who take them in a bad light, as I said it is the person who makes it bad. Like a gun or anything else with potential danger, you have to be responsible, if you are not, don’t limit my ability to have whatever it is, just because you are stupid. To each his own consequences.
I see the entire family want to blame everyone for their demise – the cops are why I am in jail, the docs are why I had all these meds (I wonder who shoved them down his clacker?), the guy who hit me is why I can’t be off them, the wreck is why I can’t work (but they might be partying as per lyndsay and tommy saying since they aren’t answering the phone they are doping it up), and everything is everyone else’s fault! Well, with an attitude like that, you will never get anywhere anyway.
Another thing I noticed is Misty is writing tommy but he is not getting the letters, are those purvey to the sunshine laws to be released?
I wonder if she is trying to give him hints as to their story, but also if she is saying he is guilty of something, why write him?
I still want to know what Hope was saying they were all so many steps ahead of the cops, and they were all to plead the same way – ROFL – I don’t think anyone wants to plead like her…. imo
ugh
someone asked why listen to these, as it is mean or something, well I think we like to get all the information we can about this case and for many reasons. Some people might be studying psychology, ethics, culture, the drug war and the war on doctors, law enforcement, legal aspects, and so on, some may like to try to solve crimes and are interested in it or volunteer as a websleuth or whatever, and some people learn about themselves through reality in the media, it is enlightening and really can show all sides of America, which some people bury their heads to regularly. They go to work, come home, live their cushy life and don’t realize how some people live or are forced to as children.
If we are aware of these issues in our country, we are more able to help solve the problems facing our children and families as well as women who may be somewhat stuck in relationships who need to know how to get out, but to fix it, you have to understand it and to understand it, you truly have to “go there” in order to “get it”.
This is also released as it is legally allowed to be and that law is for a reason. All people involved know full well they are being recorded and it will be released. If they don’t want to be released, don’t go on tape. That was what Cindy and George decided to do. They have used this platform as they use or leach from every resource they come in contact with in their lives because it is how they have got by, and how they have survived. They have gotten nearly bailed out free, got a free car, got commissary money, got friends – like ron’s new gf and the lady lyndsay talks to, they have got money for phones, a place to move to, lyndsay is thinking of getting money for her stories and so on.
THIS IS THEIR MARKETING AND ADVERTISING PLATFORM AND THEY USE IT WELL!
One other thing I noticed on one of these is that LP has sent three hundred dollars to which did not go to the cell phones as it was supposed to, so what did ma and pa spend that on, I would be asking for receipts if I was LP!!!
THANK YOU for the posts Simon and Jan! :0) Have a wonderful night everyone – hug a friend today, they are precious. 🙂
Chromedaffodils,
What an absolutely wonderful post!
Ann
beautifully put Ann!
ann..you like gossip, admit it!
Jason, please tell me where I said anything about laws permitting creditors to broadcast debt to strangers? Commercial lenders? I don’t even know what you are referring to. Where did you come up with that?
Maybe Lyndsy wants LP to see that he needs to stop giving Hank and Lisa money. They are taking his money, her money, etc. and they are still broke. Actually, they probably thought that Tommy’s half of the money should be theirs, since he’s in the slammer. They probably don’t like her much anymore because she has nothing nice to say about Tommy or Misty. She will probably never get paid back.
JenM @ 10:02 said: “please tell me where I said anything about laws permitting creditors to broadcast debt to strangers?”
I don’t know where you said it, but you should if you wrote it.
Chromedaffodils, excellent post! I agree.
JenM said: “she has nothing nice to say about Tommy”.
She says many nice things about her husband Tom, but doesn’t like his face hairy (she wants him to shave), his skin broke out, and his eyes moving abnormally.
JenM, A long list could be made of what we heard her say she likes and doesn’t like about Tom – LOL!
I’m a bit disappointed in Lyndsy’s tactics but I understand she has three small children and a she will do what she has to do to see that they are taken care of.
Lol – the first time I saw his eyes roll, I wondered if they were drugging him deliberately with a high dose of something to get him to loosen up and talk.
What is up with his eyes?
These comments are ridiculous.
Does anyone know for fact if Padilla is giving the Croslin’s any money other than topping up their phones to receive calls from the jail birds Misty and Tommy?
Ron told his new Female friend that he wasn’t making any calls to family, didn’t want to put that on them. But, he is writing them. Was on 1 of the tapes.
Well, I know that eye rolling like that can be a symptom of someone who is a “huffer” (ie. sniffs paint, gasoline, etc) for a high. Who knows.
BOMBSHELL – Tommy Can’t Sleep In Jail!
Did he say in one of the tapes he was going to crawl in bed with BEN, his cell mate? And then Lyndsy said you better not. Did anyone else hear that?
A fox smells its own ridiculous hole first.
Jen, I didn’t hear that, ugh…
Thank you Ann and Judith 🙂
Quick question, are you guys seeing video when you open these, I thought they were just audio. If mentioning the way his eyes move, I would say there is video, could someone direct me to the video please as I am only getting audio from these links. Thank you very much.
I guess instead of talking about drugs, plans, dog obedience they could talk about haleigh, or his own kids welfare, his side of the haleigh story, for the whole time he is permitted to talk. That wouldn’t give anyone much to talk about negatively. Maybe if he did, the talk would be positive.
Yes and there has been virtually no tapes from ronald. I don’t think Padillia is giving anymore money because Hank was talking about doling out his check-fines,gas,phone I’m guessing still workmans comp or unemployment checks. I think Padillia stopped when he figured he wasn’t going to get any info from Misty
They were much older video’s. Sor – don’t have a link for you. Maybe just go through the archives.
It would be nice to have them all gathered to one place. But I don’t think these even come with dates.
Some male posted some dirty stuff on Lyndsy’s youtube and it sounded like a person here and that person just called her a “bey*tch” on here. His channel is dirty too.
the florida government and LE want misty DEAD!!
They have LIED, SET UP, ENTRAPPED, PLANTED EVIDENCE and other vile things to FRAME misty!!!!!!!!!!
she is being subjected to Abu Ghraib like TORTURE!! segregated and isolated! placed under extrene psychological TORTURE!!!!!!!!!!
They want her to commit SUICIDE!!!!!!!!!
misty is INNOCENT!
OJ-puleeze she is in a cell alone but she is able to play cards,get her hair braided, watch TV, eat honeybuns and chips ,walk by the boys who catcall at her,get three squares a day.she is better off where she is.
I know this joke is dating myself but:
Meet Tommy Whiner, offspring of Doug & Windy
Hank Sr. and Lisa may be hiding out because they are ashamed at what was found out about Tommy and Misty, when Tommy started talking after the failed the LDT. I know Hank, Sr was very concerned that people didn’t think any of the Croslin’s could be a part of Haleigh’s disappearance. Hank and Lisa are probably back on drugs, too, but embarrassment may be part of the reason they have gone under cover.
She’s selling drugs on tape OJ,LOL
I have to agree with Tommy that making phone numbers and other personal info. to public IS crazy and dangerous to Lindsey and children. I personally don’t have a problem with marajuana. Alcohol is far more distructive to individuals and families. Government likes to spread propaganda to misled public about it’s dangers. I am Canadian and we tend to be more lax about it’s personal use. It has many medicinal properties that are well documented. JMO
I agree Karon, the stress could have even helped them start using or going on a bender
Chakra7:
I believe something important was found out to cause LC to file for divorce and Hank and Lisa to stop answering their phone to their own kids, and stop going to the jail to see them.
Karon- yes,yes me too about the divorce, I believe linsey found out something that implicates tommy bigtime and thats why hank and lisa cut contact too
CathyJo63 said,in May 4th, 2010 at 11:03 pm She’s selling drugs on tape OJ,LOL
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omg..where to begin, informing the uniformed?
LE purposely made her homeless and unable to work for income. Then they OFFERED the drug deals for her to make money..she was FORCED into it, ENTRAPPED by an inept bungling drunken moronic LE!!! who are trying to COVER their arses for BUNGLING the haleigh investigation!
Its disgusting and criminal what their doing to misty!
misty is innocent!
Karon, could it be just a simple explanation as Lyndsy wanting to divorce, collect govt checks if her income is below a certain level to help her move on and the parents want to just shut the heck up cuz they are already in enough of trouble?
Simple as that!!! JMO
Occam’s razor
LOL In your world i can see why you think so OJ,made her homeless,unable to work,sometimes you make me think you’re a croslin…….jmo
Did Misty have a disability that made her unable to work that I was not aware of ??? well other than laziness lol
One other point I would like to point out is that Lindsey is very young and facing huge challenges, If I was under the microscope like this young woman in my 20’s. I would have been just as foolish and nieve. With a few more decades under my belt my actions and life experience has completely changed. I made many mistakes in my 20’s. Truth be told I still am learning but with greater insight and maturity.
rofl Exactly,her brain might be!
Lindsey cannot apply for aid or benefits for the kids if she is not divorced from Tommy. She is not eligible if she is married.
I haven’t seen anything that shows anyone’s story has changed or their lies have changed. Did I miss a Bombshell?
chakra7 said,in May 4th, 2010 at 11:23 pm Did Misty have a disability that made her unable to work that I was not aware of ??? well other than laziness lol
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omg..her name was VILIFIED by LE and nationaly by NG!!!!!!! Can you imagine how well known she was in her home town? Its a LE tactic to isolate, then make someone desperate, then entice them into illegal activity..
ENTRAPMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
misty is innocent!
do we know that for fact about the aid and benefits?
lol she villified herself,OJ!
She was the one in charge of Haleigh that night,she failed ld tests for a REASON…….if she’s so innocent then why in the hello hasn’t she told the truth about what happened??
lol she villified herself,OJ!
She was the one in charge of Haleigh that night,she failed ld tests for a REASON…….if she’s so innocent then why in the hello hasn’t she told the truth about what happened??
stilllucy, ppl know that. maybe that’s why she’s divorcing him? or maybe to start over IF she’s divorcing him. they must already get foodstamps to cover most food items and probably get 4 or 500 per month for that.
I don’t live in Florida but, in my State that’s how it is.
As far as Misty being able to get gainful employment, I think most reputable places ask that you have a high school diploma or G.E.D.
She has something like a 6th grade education. I don’t understand hows her parents or guardian got away with that. I’ve seen judges sign off on letting some quit but not in 6th grade.
Craziness.
I assumed she’d get it b/c he’s in jail?
OJ,did you make those nasty comments to Lindsey on UTube with a link to your site?
true Random,she didn’t even know what 10% of her bond was.poor girl!
OJ- its true Palatka is a small area and I would have to beleive that she was known everywhere around there, but she could have gone to school student loans sometimes pay living expenses or moved but I seriously doubt she even tried to get a job. jmo 🙂
CathyJo63 said,in May 4th, 2010 at 11:35 pm lol she villified herself,OJ!
She was the one in charge of Haleigh that night,she failed ld tests for a REASON…….if she’s so innocent then why in the hello hasn’t she told the truth about what happened??
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shes not CHARGED with that is she!!?????????
Misty was SET UP on drug charges because LE needs a SCAPEGOAT for their bungling botched investigation the haleigh case.
Morons couldn’t find their own arses without a roadmap!
misty is innocent!
remember the video of the dbust,she said ronald has a job but nobody will hire Misty croslin………………sheesh!
you got me there,Oj…..true..she isn’t!!!!!
Low income families are always given aid especially Food Stamps. She would be entitled to get additional welfare if she divorces him. She is trying to start out at the bottom of a field of LPN’s and some employer will have to take chance on her based on that.
Her posting of those videos and such is not going to help when potential employers google her.
A mature responsible adult needs to educate her in how to conduct herself, help with preparing resumes for employers, and to inform her to keep her personal business off the internet for all to see.
She likes the attention, but if she’s serious she will stop, get someone from her school to help her with resume preparation and stop trying to get money from reporters/wannabe bounty hunters.
but my guess is,if she’d told the truth about that night she wouldn’t have been watched would she?
true CathyJo she hasn’t ever been able to tell a straight story thats not normal for an innocent person.
thats right Chakra,she hasn’t and in one video she says,they need to get off my back?? well my goodness she was with Haleigh when she went missing!What part of that is so hard for her to understand!should the cops not ask the babysitter what happened.lol almost funny!
yes like lets just assume the last person with Haleigh is completly not involved even though she has never passed a lie detector,has told 10 different stories,nah she is deff innocent lol
OJ
She wasn’t “set up” on the drug charges. LE probably got wind of them selling drugs after or before Hank’s oxycotin was stolen and other things.
It’s not illegal for them to do undercover operations like that. They do that all the time with prostitutes and johns. She was willing in those drug videos.
CathyJo63 said,in May 4th, 2010 at 11:48 pm but my guess is,if she’d told the truth about that night she wouldn’t have been watched would she?
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she woke up and haleigh was gone..
that is the truth.
whats your truth? what the cops tell you to beleive? do you eat up PROPAGANDA like cotton candy?..its people like you that voted for bush!
kool-aid drinkers!
no i just go by what I see and hear! and the fewwwwwwwww known facts!
Simple Explanation:
Could be, but it was evident on the tapes we have been listening to that LC was getting sick of ToC and his family.
Karon- that and what she found out could have been the final straw. we heard she found rope in her old trailer ,I don’t know if that was confirmed though
IDK,,,guess OJ doesn’t want to answer that he posted those comments to Lindsey and his site mentions all that garbage and P**n as hobbies? Misty is or was a minor and you are an adult.
?..its people like you that voted for bush!
kool-aid drinkers!
people like me? you don’t even know me!
and its people like you who turn the child abusers loose to move on to the next one!
Karon, did you just answer your own theory that she found out something? Perhaps she is just tired of it and filing for divorce and can collect money from the state to help her? Doesn’t mean that she found out something IMO.
CathyJo63 said,in May 5th, 2010 at 12:19 am ?..its people like you that voted for bush!
kool-aid drinkers!
people like me? you don’t even know me!
and its people like you who turn the child abusers loose to move on to the next one!
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mistys a child abuser now?
omg..your lashing out like a lunatic!
put down the box of wine and think rationaly..
and to set the record straight: I did not post on lyndsy’s utube!
I do not have a “site”..
Well, all we know is the way in which the media and possibly LE has chose to “state things”! They say “Misty was the last person to see Haliegh”…so everyone takes that as gospel. Is anyone stopping to think that the last person to see Haleigh was the person who took her out of that trailer?!! So, I really wish they would stop saying that, as it is very misleading and is made for TV, NG gossip.
Misty is the only person coming forward saying that she last saw her when she put her to sleep. If Misty was passed out, then who knows who might of seen Haleigh last? I think its a twist on words and a sensationalizing tactic to put the focus on Misty. Im not saying she is guilty or innocent, because NO ONE KNOWS, period. There are way too many others involved in this!
Just as an example, they have record of Misty calling Timmy before she called 911. Now, tell me why Timmy would not of been out looking for Haleigh when Ron drove up? Wouldn’t you of run accross the lawn to Misty’s trailer to help find Haleigh? What did they talk about? The weather? No, probably not. He probably knew Haleigh was gone, so what action did he take? There are way too many questions and players to “assume” that Misty was the last person to see Haleigh.
OJ’s glove said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 12:02 am
CathyJo63 said,in May 4th, 2010 at 11:48 pm but my guess is,if she’d told the truth about that night she wouldn’t have been watched would she?
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she woke up and haleigh was gone..
that is the truth.
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No no… I distinctly remember she woke up because she had to pee, and did what most people
do when they have to do that, went directly to the kitchen. lol
1. Kitchen
2. Back door
3. Ran and grabbed cell phone
4. Haleigh was gone
5. And that`s all I know
I think that behind bars is the best place for the whole group. And if they can’t sleep, well, they need to look in the mirror for the reason why. It’s too bad that Haleigh may never be put properly to rest but I think it’s certain that she is no long with us. I guess we should be thankful that we at least know that. Not sure we would even want to know the exact details anyway.
a retired LE officer who’s daughter died is raising haleigh as his own
Divorce to me is not an option unless I truly see no other option. For me I would have to know that what ever transpired impacted the marriage to a degree that I could no longer be a wife. I would have to believe that I could no longer accept my husband as my husband. Being involved in the murder and or cover up of a murder of a five year old child would leave me with no other option but Divorce.
What I percieve as being a wife and what my husband is and all that includes trust, respect, intimacy etc..things I personally could not do with anyone who was involved in this type of crime. I could get over a bank heist, stolen car, smoking pot, non violent stuff but I could never get past this.
I couldn’t care less if Tommy never slept again.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
my wife would rob a bank with me..
jus sayin..
m is in
To: OJ’s Glove
That was a good movie. We can only hope that was the case at this point. After listening to all these people for so long, it’s quite clear that would have been the best outcome for little Haleigh.
To JenM:
I agree with you.
That old tagline of “The last person to see Haleigh” has never sat well with me.
The last person to see her was whomever got rid of Haleigh’s body, or who has her now.
Granted, that’s not mutually exclusive to Misty.. There are other variables to consider, and I think those variables certainly are. It’s just dumb NG stuff.
What if Tommy took the Van to go pick up some pills from Misty and NayNay at the party that night. (he needed them so he could function at work the next day. Lyndsy knew where he was going). When he got to the party, they were all freakin out cause Haleigh was dead in the car where Misty left her and Jr. Tommy helped get Jr in the Van and they put Haleigh in the back. They were all drugged up. He drove to Misty’s, they all put Haleigh in the dumpster.(that explains NayNay dropping her keys out there). Then they panicked, took her out. Told Misty to stay home with Jr. He propped the back door so it would look like an abduction. He took NayNay home and then went and dumped Haleigh’s body (or took her with him and maybe there was some hanky panky?). Meanwhile Misty is passed out. She wakes up and doesn’t quite recall everything because she thinks it might be a dream. Haleigh is gone. So she calls Timmy to ask where Tommy is. Then Ron shows up. that is a theory to consider. Maybe Lyndsy finds out that Tommy was with Nay Nay that night??
I don’t think Haleigh was harmed in the trailer, or there would be some evidence. Unless she was given to much medication of some sort, threw up and choked? Maybe this is why Misty washed a blanket with no soap?
Gosh, I hope that evil Crystal’s family did an abduction (or put someone up to it) and she is safe somewhere. Maybe Misty woke up and foiled the plan to take JR too? Lets just hope so. With no body and no evidence of a crime to Haleigh (except the dissappearance), I still hold out hope really. Non custodial kidnappings happen all the time, especially when there are motives….owing 12,000 in back child support, a hearing coming up, jealousy, revenge, past history of false reports….sounds very likely to me. LE needs to dig deeper, and not in the same hole they been diggin either.
OJ’s glove said,
in May 4th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
hank and lisa have been warned by LE to not visit misty. This is a tatic to psychologicly destroy her capacity to think and reason to isolate and destroy her!.. It is TORTURE to the Nth degree!!! TORTURE!!!!!
Is this JUSTICE??!! To SQUEEZE a person til they will say anything?
IF misty LIVES til trial she will be found NOT GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!
LE and the entire florida GOVERMENT want her DEAD! to distract from their completely botched bungling of the haleigh investigation!
misty is INNOCENT!!
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OJ
Now Now. Thank about it. It’s probably her attorney who doesn’t want her talking to anyone. She gets herself in deeper and deeper every time she talks with one of her Family members. (Kinda like Casey Anthony) JMO
hi all. new here. my 2nd post. just like to say that as a survivor of domestic violence (not just one person, a lifetime of it, including childhood),i can see it clearly in Lindsy. she is incredibly young, and saddled with alot of responsiblity. if you think for a moment about how Tommy treats her over the phone; imagine how much more controlling he must have been while he was out, and living with her and the children each day. anyone that tries to exude that kind of control over the phone, fits the description of an abuser, who always needs to be in control. i would ask everyone before they judge Lindsy so harshly, to realize that she & the children were most likely governed by Tommy’s harshest hand. years and years of that becomes “the norm”. i say god bless her that she has the strength now,and the time away from him physically to be able to file those divorce papers. i believe once she is away from that life, she will blossom, as i did. also, working with “at-risk” children for many years, i will say that nowadays, putting chidren in foster-care is not necessarily the best choice, nor one we should think of jumping into quickly. yes, those children could definitely benefit from a more structured environment. but they have a mother, that while young, still can make that happen. and foremost, she loves her children and doesn’t abuse them herself, from all accounts. foster-care has become riddled with people just wanting to make money off the placements. (please know-not saying all are that way, there are many wonderful, loving homes) but statistically, much of the foster-care system has broken down to the point where children are being found abused, physically, sexually, emotionally, neglected, and in far worse shape, at times, then when they originally came into the system. they need tough & immediate reform. i say,given the opportunity Lindsy may well pull her family up by the bootstraps…and more power to her!!
(imo)
Personally, I dont care that Lindsy doesnt work and she be may be getting food stamps. Seems like this is a good time for her to be with her children. I also think it is totally her decision if she wants to stay married to Tommy or not. SOmetimes when you love somebody its hard to see the obvious. I cant stand it when people start questioning how other people do or dont pay for things. Then they go on to tell how they worked, went to school all while being single and raising kids. There are times when a parent should collect welfare in order to stay with their children and inn Lindsys case this is a the time to do that. So. I’m done with the Haleigh case until they make arrests.
In the original police report from the night of the 911 call Misty said she woke up because she was thirsty/glass of water.
It was later she changed to needing to pee.
Never thought about the wording – ‘last to see her’ – guess if we knew that the case would be solved.
Ann
The federal prison at Terminal Island, CA has plenty of water around it. Wonder if TC can apply for reseidency. lol
These audios are from last month obviously,, and I wonder if and when we will hear and see more….I wish we had someone who would be able to get each one of these as they are allowed to be published publicly, as close to the time they are made…..Thanks to Simon and all, for making these available to us…Are there more, and when can we listen to them???? Why is it no one else is getting these vids??? Simon, by listening to these we all get to see what these kind of people are like and what their children must live through….Because of the sunshine laws,,hopefully we get the vids closer to the time of the so-called divorce….Lindsy is not very mature and she sure isnt IMO very bright…She is wantng tatoos, private part piercings,,,and she is horny…..Where in all of this is she really concerned about those three little kids of hers……..She has lived with a real creep, thug, druggie,,thief in the night to his neighbors,,,and she never left him….I dont think Haleigh is much of her concern other than the cops have targeted her “family”….Most of us are gettng a glimsp of what life really is like for these people and I am surprised another child has not gone missing…
Toughcookie,
Did you get counseling, help from outside sources in order to take a different path?
Usually what happens, unfortunately, and this is what I am most afraid of for Lindsy, is it is a pattern –
one that is comfortable, feels rights, feels like home.
Unless and until outside help, counseling, etc., is gotten, then the pattern remains and Lindsy is more apt to repeat with someone new – much like Tommy, the same abusive situation of dominance and control. But he will not be the children’s father and that leaves them in more peril than they are now. IMO
I also agree with you re Foster Homes. However, if the person’s own family are the root of the acceptance of abuse, then it is best for the childrens sake to go for six months or so to a Foster Home where they can be safe and secure and understand the differences in family life. They are still young enough to curtail the conditioning they are now exposed to and learn how to live their own lives differently.
Lindsy in the six months, or so, can dive into very seriously adjusting her thinking, with help, realizing that she needs to be at the helm of her own ship and to help her three children in a meaningful way. I feel she goes from day to day, and has no long term plan in place for the children she brought into this world and for whom she is totally responsible. Fair or unfair, their father will be in prison for a very long time and this is the reality of the situation, as I see it.
It is such a pattern of repeat that it is scary. The thought is always there — the next person is going to be different, but they are not because they are the type of person Lindsy is attracted to, and, of course, they attracted to Lindsy.
Also, Timmy and his family should be counseled as well and they should attend MANY parenting classes so they can obtain the knowledge and realization that they way they were brought up and their family environment is wrong, even if it feels comfortable to them.
Realize this is taxpayer money. However, prisons are expensive, and, usually, as in the case of the Croslins, all could be in prison at the same time.
My thinking is that DSF is overstaffed, overworked, and simply overwhelmed by the situation of so many of these cases and there again, even with them, it becomes an accepted pattern of behavior.
Lets take the money we send to all the foreign governments, billions and billions, and start looking after our children here at home so that we can again become the greatest nation on Earth.
God bless you and always keep you safe.
Ann
OJ, hows the weather in Minnesota. Is the dark room with all the photos getting to you yet. The mind is a wonderful thing….Happy posting
Ann caught your post on the original 911 call. You are right that she said she first got up to get a drink. Then changed it ot go to the bathroom. I wonder what/whom made Misty change that statement? To me it sounded more plausible to get up and go into the kitchen for a drink. Therefore she found the light on and the back door propped open. Joe was already gone from Satsuma when she changed this story. Then she changed it from them all sleeping in one bed 4 inches apart to Haleigh sleeping on her tot mattress 4 feet away. What are your thought on all of her changed scenarios? At first she and Ron said Misty went to bed between 10:30 and 11:00pm. Why change it to 10PM?
looking for Justice,
Gosh I really wish someone could fit the pieces together.
You asked for my thoughts (dangerous zone) – first thought, they didn’t have the story straight. Perhaps someone said, say, Theresa, ‘you don’t wake up because your thristy’, so it was changed to the bathroom; then she got into the two bathroom scenario.
What’s that old saying . . . the tangled web ‘when at first you start to deceive, what a tangled web you weave’ – probably not exact, but that’s about it.
Ronald had to be in on the story or, my feeling, with his temper, Misty wouldn’t be alive today.
The ten o’clock – what do you think – was it because Tommy actually was there at l0:00 and by then they figured out the cell phone messages between he and Ronald (who first denied ever calling Tommy) could place Tommy perhaps at the trailer at ten o’clock.
What’s your theory on this mess?
Love this blog as so many of you are really thinking and have great points.
Ann
Don’t put words in my mouth OJ,No one said Misty was an abuser but who was responsible for Haleigh when this happened..HUH?
cheryl said,in May 4th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Well,no wonder Cheryl,they go on like Haleigh was never missing! Fascinates me I’m sorry! never mention her at all!
JenM said,in May 5th, 2010 at 12:32 am
Jen,Misty was the B-A-B-Y-S-I-T-T-T-E-R!
You ever used one?
Were your kids gone when you came home?
OJ’s glove said,in May 5th, 2010 at 12:53 am my wife would rob a bank with me..
jus sayin..
m is in
I don’t think I’d admit that OJ! WOW!
OJ,So you’re saying your wife is a brainless follower knowing you’d be wrong to rob a bank in the first place.shewwwww
Well Ann, I believe that Haleigh did OD. I believe Misty was at home. I am inclined to think that they would med Haleigh if not both to make Haleigh go to sleep at night. There was a rumor that went through Satsuma and the people talking made statements that Haleigh OD and even went as far as saying LE had found Haleigh and that there was a toxicology report that would let them know if it were accidental or intentional. The rumor alledged that Haleigh was put into the dumpster, then removed and put somewhere else. The people stated that LE was looking at Ron and Misty. LE did come out and denounce the rumor. I thought up to last week perhaps someone was talking to LE, because this came out before the Letters from jail or the mondex search. This rumor came out in July 2009. Then all heck broke loose with Ron and Tommy fighting and Ron going to jail and then came ratgate. Misty and the underecover mama. I am wondering if perhaps they ( LE) obtained some sort of evidence from the dumpster that showed Haleighs dna and maybe decomp even though it was not Haleigh herself. Instead of someone talking maybe there is evidence talking. Remember it was not til after the dumpster search when they collected dna from family.
looking for Justice,
Misty and her drink/thirsty story was in the original police report taken that night.
http://1.cdn.turner.com/cnn/209/images/02/13/putnam.pdf
Have a really hard time trying to make sense of the 911 call and find the fact they knew so little about Haleigh, date of birth, height, weight, and even the color of her hair, I think, was stated as ‘white’ beyond disturbing. Not to mention they weren’t sure what she was even wearing.
In my mind, whether you were working or sleeping, these are things a parent has at the tip of their fingers regarding their children. Ronald’s work does not excuse him from not knowing anything about his daughter! He wasn’t always at work for heavens sake!
Oh, and even the picture – Theresa arrived with it as it seemed they didn’t even have a picture of Haleigh.
(Yes, didn’t Theresa arrive in record time and with the picture – amazing. Wonder if she had to look up the date of birth and that’s why it was finally known?)
From this 911 call, for me, it seemed Ronald Cummings was a master at not answering the important questions. Rather than answering, he got abusive and threatening, masking the situation with violence, getting the initial investigation off-track. He was very successful, imo, and must have been used to using this method of distraction.
Just my opinions.
Ann
Hey all. Been away a few days. Had to take a break from the madness that is the case. I was hoping by the time I returned arrests would have been made and Haleigh had been brought home. Sadly, that does not appear to be the case. Looks like the same ole’, same ole’ garbage from these players. UGH!
OJ,
Now i understand fully why you don’t trust women…..sheeeeeesh!
Hey JB!! Sure have missed you!
Cathy, His wife is probably plastic with a stem in her neck to inflate her. lol
CathyJo….OJ trusts only one woman…uh, girl….and that is Misty. Don’t know why. Not sure I WANT to know why. But OJ is a true Misty follower thru and thru. Go figure. LOL
LOL!!!!Tobias.
chakra7 said,in May 4th, 2010 at 11:53 pm true CathyJo she hasn’t ever been able to tell a straight story thats not normal for an innocent person.
Exactly Chakra,if i’d been flying on crack/whatever i’d have told it,whats worse?
I’d gladly say i was gone,or was high….whatever but i would not hold back when this baby’s life was at stake,theyre all druggies and no gooders in my eyes,they all knew the same things theyre using now to get out of a mess,why not when it counted………Haleigh may have been home by now but they chose to lie and still are!
hi ann! in answer to your question- yes, i did receive counseling, extensively. after a lifetime of abuse,and spurned forward by a very damaging relationship, i took myself to a women’s domestic violence program, and stayed in one of their “safe houses”. i was lucky. this place literally saved my life.(although even as a child, i knew the abuse was wrong, i continued to find myself in abusive situations until i gained the strength & knowledge i needed to get out). in a place like that, a mother (who may otherwise lose her kids to child protective services) may have them there with her, as long as they are all following the program, which is very strict. also, the children receive counseling and whatever else they may need. during my stay there were many families who had come specifically for that reason…as the mothers needed parenting skills, some of them had substance abuse problems, etc. this gave them a chance to continue to be together as a family, and “relearn” the family dynamic, so they could leave with a stable, intact family relationship. i think Lindsy seems to fit the characteristics of an abused woman. many times, when that kind of woman gets a small taste of freedom after being held down by an abuser for so long, they do go a little crazy, (going out, getting tattooed may be examples of that). hopefully, she will receive some sort of support either from her family or perhaps a social service agency to better guide her choices.
btw-completely agree with you that we should cut back the financial aid to foreign countries and use it to take better care of our children first! this is the united states-there is no excuse for little kids starving here, being neglected, living on the streets, etc. many are just not aware of how bad it is. after all, nobody’s ever made a commercial about kids from the usa being hungry, neglected, abused, or homeless…
Hey lfj – missed you too. Just needed a break from all of this. I get so frustrated and distraught over this case. It isn’t healthy! You know what I mean?
Tobias – ROFLMAO – OJ’s blow up doll is probably named Misty! LOL
You’re right JB! same ole whiners.oh i don’t have even a tater chip….well hell never mind Haleigh,.lets get these guys some chips and toofpaste!
tobias said,in May 5th, 2010 at 11:18 am Cathy, His wife is probably plastic with a stem in her neck to inflate her. lol
ROFLMSAO!!!!!!!!!!!!TY for that one,lol oh i swear!!!!!!!!!!!
JB said,in May 5th, 2010 at 11:19 am CathyJo….OJ trusts only one woman…uh, girl….and that is Misty. Don’t know why. Not sure I WANT to know why. But OJ is a true Misty follower thru and thru. Go figure. LOL
She’s gonna need somebody to buy her book from San Quinton!!!!!!rofl almost not funny but its funny!
I am headed out for awhile. Glad to see you all though. Will be back shortly. God Bless
cathy, are you flirting with me? 🙂
Misty River take my mind! LoL Poor OJ!GOT GOOD TASTE IN STUPID WOMEN!
You betcha Oj!just dying to throw my hands around your neck! rofl j/k sorta!
I have a feeling there will be a BOMBSHELL on NG with Lindsy on the show telling about her divorce and since AH has writen that people can write in with questions to ask this bunch when he talks with them, that will be what Lindsy and Chelsea are up to, being on the show and telling on GHollars and Mistys parents. They will try to endear themselves to the public.jmo
Oj,You are the flower of manhood,how can we deny that? A pure blooming idiot! lol j/k
JB: Hey, so glad to hear you’re back…..
Cathy: I have learned to scan over OJ. Pretend as though he doesn’t exist. Just like, Misty was asleep at 10pm in the mh that night.
It’s awfully quiet down there in Florida. Erie!
Tobias,its like pleaseeeeeee raise your hand before you tattle in class.lol
Lucy,lol I would but i can’t get my head that far up my a#@!
i know you can see he brings out the best in me,lol
It does me remind me though…..i am outta darts!
Oj,in all seriousness,do you really believe your wife would rob a bank for you?
Hey CathyJo! Hey stillucy! Good to see you guys. I stayed away for four days trying to decompress a little. I didn’t miss the jailhouse whiners….but I did miss my blogging buddies! 😀
Stillucy….You get used to OJ over time. Eventually you’ll find his comments will make you smile or even chuckle. Yup, he grows on you after awhile…sort of like a fungus! 😆
rofl……..he reminds me of what i always never wanted to be,lol
I was going back over videos and it just is so strange that GGSykes and TN kept saying Misty was so tired then on NG GGSykes said Misty was fine. NG didnt call her on that WHY? Its like a complete 180 was she tired and drugged out or was she fine and dandy? I think AS is afraid Ron may face child endangering charges if they find Haleigh dead, if not worse. She doesnt even go into what conversation she had with Misty. I doubt she just dropped clothes and left with out a word. jmo
My bro is still here JB but i told him man i gotta go see my buds too,lol worse than withdrawls!lol heck,even when we don’t agree i still think we have a great bunch here!lol ya know!
Tobias,I agree,i have too b/c at first too…they always said Misty was the best ron ever had,she was a mother to them there kids,and now its a complete turnaround!
to be honest Tobias,I don’t think Sykes was there that day,why didn’t Misty say so when she was asked,she said a/c guy and joe? wasn’t it?
and why lie unless you thought you needed to?? She has no reason other than to protect someone!
I think Chelsea will go down on the ship that we have come to know as the “Croslin”. If, Lindsey starts talking to anyone, she’ll be on her own. Hopefully she’s went back to her own family for support and guidance. She sure needs it.
JB: The blog/radio shows were interesting this past Sunday. I’ve taken a little bit of a break here and there this week too. Just waiting for some news to break. Still thinking PCSD is building a case to turn over to a Grand Jury. And a Grand Jury could take months to pass down charges, especially with this bunch of liars. It could be interesting to try them all together tho. Could you imagine that court room? It would be a circus.
The cold weather up north, coupled with the dingy dark room he is in probably causes the diminished mental capacity we see from the OJ posting. Women should not blindly follow anyone, this is a power and control issue, usually documented as a DV offender. Are we beginning to see the true side of the mad minnosota blogger. Maybe this is why he likes Misty so much. She is a victim of Ron’s power and control issues.
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Ann said in 10:39-
Great catch Ann about the change in Misty’s stories, If you look back at the begining they all changed their stories even little details I’m inclined to think that they are ALL involved to some degree Tommy and Misty lie so much I believe its better to look at who they don’t implicate than who they do (everyone except for Joe)
Hey CathyJo Happy Cinco de Mayo!
Even tho cousin Joe isn’t an upstanding citizen, I think he is the only one of this bunch that is not involved. He was the scapegoat because it was too easy. I still think it will go back to Ron, Misty, and oh yes, Grandma Teresa somehow…..IMO.
Hey, I just stopped by to check in. We are living in our motorhome right now as our home buying deal fell through. Needless to say…we are homeless. well not really, I’m grateful for what we do have. I miss you all. I am able to use my sons laptop here and there, which is wonderful. I’ve been unable to follow much here, but I try. Hugs to you all, and will be back from time to time when I can. pray daily for our little angel and hope soon she will come home.
Huh Chakra,LoL I barely know engliss!lol
but ty anyway! lol
Chakra,also once she said to the bathroom but why not thee br in that bedroom?
Agree stilllucy-he was to convienent of a scapegoat as in not in the tight Croslin immediate family, just happen to be in town,questionable rap sheet, left town right after (even tho it was planned)
Joe is just too easy LE and FBI would have broke him from the first time they interviewed him, to me he is an easy scapegoat. I dont even think he stole the gun that was in the ditch. That was either Tommy or Misty herself. She was the first one to report on that saying she found it. Then we hear Rons story to Cobra saying he found it and blamed Joe (it was found in Tommys ditch). Funny how the guy who is visiting gets blamed. Misty even painted him as being so afraid and wanting to take off right away, yet there are pictures of him hanging posters with her. Doesnt look freaked out to me. I dont think he was involved in any of this at all.jmo
so do I Lucy! Jo was a thief..thug,bad guy before Haleigh went missing,ya know…..perfect to point a finger at!
who knows this wasnt planned when they had jo come down to fl!
I dunno how he stayed with them b/c its evident they don’t like the guy at all!
Maybe he and r had a drug for gun trade or something and ron stuck him then with this,Just don’t know what to think! but i do think of everything,wether i root for ron/misty/whomever i still don’t close my mind! becayse something happened and theyre in it up to their necks!
me either Tobias,even the 1st day misty pointed to him,i did not believe it for a sec,someone who went far enough to do all that is gonna leave as soon as the crime happened,making everyone look right at him,a crook is smarter than that!
methinks,
Don’t leave the keys in your motorhome just in case anyone you gave a ride to might ‘steal’ it!
Ann
and ron did say,all i want is my childs life back….sure it coulda been a mislip but look at their actions,a father whose worried for his child don’t act like that!
True CathyJo- I have to beleive her head never hit the pillow that night.
Me to lol-my engliess needs some work and I don’t know any spanish but jus an excuse to say Happy LOL
lol.gotcha!!!!!! Chakra!
Cathy, If he would have left the day before(monday) and creeped back I could believe it but thats not the case. I dont think he is the one who said this would be a great place to get rid of a body either. We have heard that said about Ron and the bridges from Amber , so it sounds like Rons MO not Joes. jmo
On the topic of cousin Joe…
The Croslin family makes staying at a motel fun! and necessary
You are exactly right Tobias,I just never once believed it,when a member of the family is accused,usually eveoryiones saying,”no ain’t no way C”ATHY WOULD DO THAT” but here they are alllllll pointing to him first thing!yet saying,ain’t no way r or m would do that!
In a NORMAL situation with a missing child you would see all the family members come together and tell LE EVERYTHING they know. Go over the timelines, explain descrepancies, even ASK to take a LDT so they can be eliminated so LE could focus on finding the child.
But NOT in this case. There hasn’t been any two of them that have told the same story! And they’ve all changed their story multiple times. Can they ALL be involved or do they really just have that many criminal activities that they are trying to keep under wraps? I just don’t get it. These folks go WAY beyond dysfunctional! I think they need to come up with a NEW term for these folks….
Criminologicdysfunctoids or maybe
dystupidfuggicriminaloids
Well i to dont belive Misty murdered Haliegh ,or fed her dope.Shes a teen who is in a mess.I also think le should have arrested her in the beginning for neglect,then questioned,the state could have always dropped the charges.But a young girl on pills,isnt going to feed a child roxys/oxys they are to expensive o the street.she would save them for herself.10 dollars for a 15 mil roxy/20 for a 30 steet wise. 20 for a 40 mil oxy,80 50 dollars,so i just dont see a broke giel who likes pills giving that to Haliegh.Shes broke,an no way to buy more pills/unless Ron buys them,or she tricks a make the money/pills for herself.
Even with Haliegh taking a pill,as candy.She would have spit most of it out,they are bitter.An TN said she had to take them before she knew the tast,an i do to.From taking both type pills before from Pain mang.Now if Haliegh did chew one,spitting most out,she still could have got enough for a child her age to die,more so because she had astma,an thaese type meds work against the respitory system.
I dont see her hitting Haliegh in the head with a board,what she went out side got a board,came back in a struck Haliegh ,i dont see it.
Could she have left,an come back to find Haliegh gone yes,could she have come back walking in one some one raping Haliegh yes,but blood/DNA would be present where this took place.An its said no blood found,or she would have been arrested before now.
I just believe the girl was happy to be home with Ron,loved the children/all children .Was home,an someone came in an statred trouble,hurting haliegh,or took her an Misty didnt know it.Why i say she didnt know is
First LDT was inconclusive./SHE ONLY STARTED FAILING THEM,ONCE SHE STARTED HEARING ALL THE RUMORS,AN THINKING WHO WOULD HAVE/MAY HAVE TAKEN HER/THEN SHE STARTED FAILING THE TEST.
Its a sad day when LE knew she had a drug problem way back,an dint try to get that 17 at the time help,yet they would Rather send UC ,a yr later,,calling her for pills.Until she thought he was a friend,in that wourld an an she gave in got him some pills,it went from there.Sorry to sick her with such a large amount in the end,knowing what it would cost her/many young yrs of her life.
Shame on them for that.When they let Crystal fail drug test,never setting her up.It was a ugly move ,an just done because of the Haliegh case,cheep shot/becase they could solve a case.No fair trials because the drug case/is forever tied to the missing child..Because they couldnt solve a case.
I myself surly would have respected LE , More if they had arrested her in the beginning,an then if found she wasnt guilty,drop the charges.Than wait,an entrap her with the 200+ pills as they did,that was plain dirty the end of that drug sting(200).Like i said 98 percent of those pills belonged to the state,so with the small amount they did sell not from UC,that helped clean the drug trade up how,with all those big dealers i heard talked about.Charles being one.
As far as Lindsey she not a very responsable woman/mother of 3.An the fact shes playing Art,LP shows me shes a hustler,she knows what shes doing.
Tommy is a doper at heart,untill that changes,he wont change.
Hank,an Lisa have stayed off NG,shes invited/they dont talk to Art/hes suffer a werch/a bad injury one,an wasnt helped because that woman broke the law,an didnt carry ins,she let her man use the car he hit the man,an they should be held liable for the medical,an pay the man.His Job as a dry waller is over/Thanks to the media,NG showes,an shame on anyone who played Austuns face,an didnt bleep him out .Aminor child,an it should be a law againt the Jail system releasing his face on video.I would find me a Lawyer an sue all their butts for that one!!!!
But all this really maens nothing compaired to that precious child who is missing/murderer,an we still dont know whatb happened,or havent fount her.All the other bull compaired to this part is nothing.Wishing this child could be found,even if it was one tiny bone.Anything!!!!
you’d think they’d have considered a stranger first,ya know??
JB,It gives new meaning to the kids from different strokes,sheeeeeeeeeesho!
I also dont believe it was Tommy that took Misty to the boat ramp to show her where Haleigh was. We all know Ron would do that to shut her up. It was a threat, he took her there and let her know if she crossed him she would end up in there too. Then to prove she could be trusted she got the tattoo. And things were wonderful until LE f–ed it up.(herwords).jmo
Thanks Ann, I’ll keep that n mind! It really won’t be a problem though as we have all we can do to get it started!lol
Some of what you say Jan,possibl;e,but Misty has a mouth and knows right and wrong,if just one of them would tell the truth about it maybe we’d find the truth,but all of em lied from day 1 and still are but leaves enough to help themselves when they need to,I just do not buy into innocent lil Misty anymore,this is almost 2 yrs now!!!!all it would take is THE TRUTH!
TRUE TOBIAS,AND I STILL WONDER WHY LE PICKED RON UP THAT DAY AND TOOK HIM THERE TO THAT SAME PLACE AND HE REACHED THEM A LETTER OR PAPER FROM HIS POCKET,I DUNNO!
OOps sorry!!!!
I don’t believe Tommy took her there for a split second!
Cathyjoe, Glad to hear you got a new puter. Thats wonderful!I won’t try to comment on the case today as so much has happened since I’ve been onlne so theres no sense in making a fool of myself trying to act all knowledgable!! I can do that after do get nyself updATED!LOL aGAIN, glad you are back, say h to cent f you see/blog wth her and all my other buds…..Gosh I miss my mornings with all of you! I’m a sad girl today! (wpes small tear)
CathyJo63 said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Tobias,I agree,i have too b/c at first too…they always said Misty was the best ron ever had,she was a mother to them there kids,and now its a complete turnaround!
to be honest Tobias,I don’t think Sykes was there that day,why didn’t Misty say so when she was asked,she said a/c guy and joe? wasn’t it?
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If she wasn’t there PCSO would have backed up their time line to when the AC guy left, but they didn’t. Their time line starts after Mrs. Sykes and her companion left. Jr is also old enough to tell PCSO if Mrs. Sykes was there or not. Time line starts after she left.
exactly,and she said she got the tattoo for ron because he thought it would prove she loved him? Sick!!! and they divorced but led all of us to believe they werent together then baby oh baby in the uc tapes!and tatoo!those 2 are crazy as hell!I am sorry but its going on 2 yrs and thats why its still so cold,how can le prove it?
i for one am sick of the games!
CathyJoe63,
Didn’t realize Ronald put ‘life’ in there! Wow, that is really saying a whole lot.
Tobias, great points always. Agree, don’t think Sykes or Theresa would be covering for Misty – they are covering for Ron and have to cover for Misty in order to cover Ron.
IMO
Ann
yes he did Ann,The video,he said my childs LIFE back? and that cell he had in his hand kept ringing too,he never once answered it,who wouldn’t if theiir child was just kidnapped????????? what if the kn was calling with instructions?
I have overlooked alot whilst believeing them,but it aint funny no more,I am sick of all of em!Haleigh was the victim and everyone acts like..o well!
Vaq, Could the time line really be from the last time Ron actually talked with Misty and not when AS claims to have been there? jmo
right Tobias,but i still wonder why Misty didn’t say that and jr is 4,days to kids are different,lol
((((((methinks))))))) awwwwwwwwwww,and ty……sorry you’re sad!!!! here’s a hankie too.you can keep it too!lol
Tobias
I agree. Just as Ron had told Amber about the other perfect drop site for a body, off the bridge, if he ever were to murder someone.
Misty mentions everyone there earlier in the day, ACguy Tommy his 3 kids but never AS until AS comes out with it on the 19th. That is 9 days later. Misty does bring up AS but that was in the morning not at 7-730.jmo
CathyJoe63,
Think this bunch had everyone fooled for some time.
Have learned we have to listen to the little details, such as, my child’s life back, great catch there. Freudian slips – the truth in among the lies.
What do you think LE knows, what is their actual time line? Have they ever given any information on this case?
Their statements, imo, contain absolutely nothing.
Wonder with Hardy new in office if they were just getting up to speed in the beginning and after a year began turning up the heat on theories they developed?
IMO
Ann
I think LE knows who is all involved they just dont have enough to prosecute everyone of them.
They were efficient in not leaving evidence which makes me wonder like they are whether the crime scene is actually somewhere else than the MH. Could it have been at Tommys house? Lindsy said recently that he had dinner cooked and had cleaned the house. Why would he do that? Everyone of us who have husbands know something is up if the house gets cleaned and dinners cooked. I find it odd since he says he didnt have pills that day and could manage to get his lazy butt to work.jmo
tobias,
lol, yeah usually means there’s another woman!
Odd behavior for any husband – for for this crowd!
Ann
This new administration could have came into this case and looked at this as an embarrassment to the Department and could very well have started from scratch. How could this bunch of drugged out low life thugs pulled off the crime of the century involving the disappearance of an innocent 5yr old little girl? PCSD look totally stupid. They missed alot on this one. At the very least they should have locked up most of them for a number of crimes related to HaLeigh and unrelated to HaLeigh from the get go just to show they meant business. Especially Ron. I can come up with at least 5 or 6 different charges to stick on him alone to keep him busy and away from the action for awhile. Big mistake by LE. Maybe Misty would’ve talked to someone, even him while he was locked up or someone else about what had happened. LE didn’t play dirty quick enough IMO to get truthful answers for HaLeigh. Although dirty would’ve been within the letter of the law. Misty wasn’t smart enough to be out there on her own without Ron and his family guiding her.
tobias,
As you mentioned, not leaving evidence. Wonder if it wasn’t an overdose in the case of no evidence?
The word ‘efficient’, to be honest, I am having a hard time with that one!
Ann
So, what about this theory….Misty drops the kids off with Tommy so she can go do a drug run. He is to take them back to her house, once Lyndsy gets home. He gets to Misty’s, and she is passed out of her mind…he puts Jr in the bed and takes off with Haliegh. She wakes up and Haleigh is gone.
How many people really did have a key to that place????
When Tommy was first arrested he was talking to brother Timmy about prison hardships and Timmy said “It was much worse when I was in federal prison.” Does anybody know why Timmy was in federal prison? This case is taking too long to solve. I don’t understand how this group of Pillbillies have pulled of a murder.
JenM,
Good theory – except for Ron. Tommy would have been devoured by the alligators by now.
Go back to Ron – he had to be involved some way or this crowd would be off the Memorial Bridge, fed to the gators, have their brains blown off — these are some of the threats he made.
Ann
Early, early in the case, there was some part of a wall (think inside a closet??) and the floor board of something to do with a sunken tub, removed.
Never heard anything more on that either.
Did Ron continue his drug business – got behind in his sales (or, spent the money) and owed the suppliers lots of money.
And, to go on with JenM’s theory, Misty and Tommy were recruited to get the sales done that night.
They smoked pot with Haleigh nearby. Haleigh having been exposed to the elements of sitting outside without a top in mid-fifty degree temp. and now inhaling pot had a severe asthma attack – they didn’t have her medicine (wasn’t it missing, her inhaler?) and she couldn’t recover.
It is all Ron’s drugs so he is involved.
Or, could the ‘they’ Ron keeps referring to mean the suppliers? They came and took Haleigh, not a bike and the other material things he mentioned?
One of you will soon get these pieces together.
Probably right about LE – they just don’t have enough and don’t want any of them to get off!
IMO
Ann
Has Teresa taken a LDT
tobias said,in May 5th, 2010 at 1:05 pm Misty mentions everyone there earlier in the day, ACguy Tommy his 3 kids but never AS until AS comes out with it on the 19th. That is 9 days later. Misty does bring up AS but that was in the morning not at 7-730.jmo
Right Tobias,by then they saw they needed someone maybe ya know……..every single one of these ppl are bodies of truth..God knows it never comes out of em’!
August 23, 2009
Putnam County investigators say,
“She {Misty] has filed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence
at the scene contradicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evenings activities.”
Would seem they do not have a time line.
Ann
Isn’t it great though, CathyJo, that they all are sitting in jail right now? I think about each of them especially while I am doing something fun. I think about their self-inflicted misery… and then chuckle.
My chuckles give Haleigh the last laugh!
Babygirl deserved so much more.
my dsl had been down,lol was wondering what happened!
and if you recall,when they were first locked up,Ron said “I don’t care who it is I will kill them and that Misty knew nothing and I felt even then he was sending Misty a msg and when the guy giving him the interview said,what do you think,or whatever it was but Ron said they know i don’t know nothing yet cuz they’d be callled for a homicide! how,in jail?? then they go to that meeting and rons told Haleigh may have been (r) or Not living and he comes out no different though he knew who it may have been?? don’t jive no more with me!
was replying to Tobias,sorry
tobias
said,in May 5th, 2010 at 1:05 pm Misty mentions everyone there earlier in the day, ACguy Tommy his 3 kids but never AS until AS comes out with it on the 19th. That is 9 days later. Misty does bring up AS but that was in the morning not at 7-730.jmo
you got it Pinky! They don’t eeven remember who Haleigh is i think sometimes,I love you giggle,i will wear my robe giggle,don’t be mean to my dog giggle,starve the kids but get me chips and toofpaste giggle,I am soooooooooo over it!grow up buncha knotheads!
The inhaler(s) wasn’t missing, it was the nebulizer. 2 different things.
The reason Misty timeline doesn’t add up is because she was involved in some sort of disturbance reported to police on Tyler @ 2am. She wasn’t at the mh in bed as she told the police and Ron knew that because he came home early that night and caught her. That was the disturbance. That’s my theory. There is a police report that was made.
omg Ann…..slap me backwards and call me madam! so nothings changed! wow what a shock!
oh but they found a nebulizer at the fake search site!
hmmmmm Lucy.i do wonder!
oh but they found a nebulizer at the fake search site!
I just remember that the nebulizer wasn’t missing, it was found and if it would have been checked out, there probably would have been narcotice residue in it. Druggies use them to inhale narcotics.
LE dropped the ball on that too, I’m sure. Don’t know if they still have access to it or not at this stage. Could be another charge for Ron if they do.
my dsl keeps going down,grrrrr
lucy,wouldn’t that be just more horrible now,God i pray not!doesn’t seem like it could be worse than it is but i dunno!
Ann:
I have wondered all along if Haleigh suffered an asthma attack and died. I also wonder if Misty would have known it was an asthma attack, if she had never seen one. She may have thought it was an overdose and panicked. One reason I have wondered about that is due to her remark about when they were outside popping wheelies on their bikes. Misty said she was fine then. Being outside in that cold night air without a top on could have thrown her into an asthma attack.
If Misty had left the MH for awhile, Haleigh could have suffered an asthma attack and died while she was gone. She may have been already dead when Misty got back.
The missing nebulizer is a puzzle to me. Why was it missing?
Sorry, but what is a nebulizer? Would it be used if the inhalers weren’t working? Don’t know about either really, just remember something which seemed medically necessary missing.
Thanks.
Ann
Boy, you guys are good!!!
Just looked it up on Wik and there it is –
combustble smoking device (i.e., asthma, cigarettes or cannabes joints).
Ann
When all is said and done it’s going to come down to the simple fact that this bunch of people have no morals. It’s all about me, me, me and there was no committment to there children, families, or anyone. And no matter how terrible this is going to seem to any of us, it was just another day in their life and they will never get it. It’s quite obvious, they still don’t get it. Are they talking yet? They have had plenty of time to sober up from their chronic drug use and still haven’t talked, what excuse can they possible have now? There is none, no moral character at all and don’t plead mental illness. There is a big difference.
ann said,in May 5th, 2010 at 1:07 pm CathyJoe63,
Think this bunch had everyone fooled for some time.
Have learned we have to listen to the little details, such as, my child’s life back, great catch there. Freudian slips – the truth in among the lies.
What do you think LE knows, what is their actual time line? Have they ever given any information on this case?
Their statements, imo, contain absolutely nothing.
Wonder with Hardy new in office if they were just getting up to speed in the beginning and after a year began turning up the heat on theories they developed?
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Ann i’m usually wrong about alot,lol but if i had to make a statement today.lemme tell ya
I’d say that le are onto them but with evidence destroyed and lack of explanation and facts from Misty they have not much of a case as far as proving what really happened,i dunno what changed my mind but even 2 days ago i still wasn’t sure m or r knew very much but were lying to cover some stuff but today i really have to wonder!
nebulizer’s are used to inhale medicine direct into the lungs,my niece always has to use one when she gets bronchites or any virus that goes into her chest as she has always had weak lungs
Lucy Amen! Thats it..bottom line so who gets justice for Haleigh,it’s obvious none of those coox want it?
Lucy Amen! Thats it..bottom line so who gets justice for Haleigh,it’s obvious none of those coox want it?
It could have happened that way Karon. Maybe the nebulizer had been used for illegal drugs and not cleaned properly? Even if it was clean, administering the drug that goes into the machine is very important. Parents are given careful instructions… cuz it is extremely easy to send someone into cardiac arrest if they put in too high of a dose. The big question to me is why the need to lie? …but I have learned with these people,
logic is not applied when making decisions.
Black is white – White is black. Down is the new up! It could have happened that way.
Karon,I don’t see that..hiding an accident……i feel whatever it is is so bad that these people who have no morals whatsoever even know it would be bad if known? Its obvious theres nothing that would shame you and me that even gets to them!!!!!!!!!!
heck if that hyappened why not toss the neb and say someone took it,not Haleigh? crazy people they are!
shoot,i’d buy the truth serum if they’d use it on em’lol
The truth will be that it was an accident that they have manipulated so much that it’s exasperated to this huge cover up and they should be punished severly for all the time and torment that they have caused just to keep their own butts out of trouble. And I think the people involved will come down to Ron, Misty and probably Teresa. Everybody else were just used to place blame to divert attention.
fall backwards on it,lol
Right Lucy! I don’t think anyone PLANNED on it happening!
Either Misty was inappropriate with someone Haleigh would tell on and had no choice or ron caught somethings,things got outta hand and she was killed!
those blankets had me convinced of another man’s DNA from day one!
i don’t think this but i am sick of being scared to say it,who knows What man,Misty was gone the weekend…Haleighs gone,blankets washed,rons mouth quiet! sorry but there it is and i prayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to God i am being ignorant!
ron could have done alot more than he has to try to find out but why hasn’t he? Sorry but thats my ?
instead he’s hiding the fact he seen Misty,even to his mom……the uc showed different,the tattoo after the divorce,what man wants his name tattooed on a dad dammed whatever of his daughter! says so much to me now!
instead he’s hiding the fact he seen Misty,even to his mom……the uc showed different,the tattoo after the divorce,what man wants his name tattooed on a dad dammed whatever of his daughter! says so much to me now!
There is some kinda bond/plot between those 2!
I apologize for losing it,I do! so sorry guys!
But i am not sorry for the words i chose.its the truth,i am so fed up!
they were just my thinking out loud opinion!
aw,ive ran ya off????? sorry!!!
Jan,sorry to ask because you guys do so much for us,I dunno where we’d be without you 2 but are there more tapes to come or do ya know,I do appreciate every second of your time,its more than her own family gives!
Looks like another day is ending with no break in the Haleigh case. It makes me wonder when Misty said Haleigh was out doing wheelies earlier in the evening and she was fine THEN. I thought the THEN was an odd thing to say. Of course the child would have been fine up until she was kidnapped. Too me she was saying she wasn’t fine later. I hope we know something soon. They aren’t coming forward with any information.
Just here with another theory of sorts. Something just came to mind. Don’t know how
it would fit but. The Van with the big scratch and Haleigh riding her bike doing wheelies comes to mind. Also Ron’s comment about stealing his daughter not being like stealing a bike. So the bike being mentioned twice (kind of like the blanket). Is it possible that someone came to the house in a huff rushing into the driveway and hit Haleigh while she was on her bike? Causing the big scratch and fatal injury to Haleigh. That’s why the blanket was left in the Van. They wrapped her in it. Just thinking out loud again.
Guys,I am truly sorry for going off with that subject but i guess we all get frustrated with it and maybe i did jump the gun alittle there and me and my brother Ted had been discussing all this too along with our lives at the hands of parents who should have protected us from those kind of people too so maybe i just got too emotional b/c of that too,I was alot luckier than Ted was,believe me when i tell you that!so much luckier!
when you see a 46 yr old man and a 47 yr old woman sitting and just bawling as they talk its a whole new story! We are not kids anymore and nothing can be done ,it was long ago and still hard to think about and I honestly expected to never see him again because of his pain!and I guess i see Haleigh being disrespected with the lies too and it gets to me,I ain’t going to lie about that! But still I should have handled myself a little better and I am so very very sorry!
sorry Mary,i just knew i’;d run you guys off!!!
(((Mary)))
I agree Mary,and everytime she told about wheelies,even the hypnotist tape she worded it exacly the same!
Karon,
Finally something seems to make sense in this mess.
Thanks stilllucy and Chakra7 – the nebulizer.
Had to have been used with drugs.
The problem at 2:22 a.m. – or, about that time, when the neighbor (one or two) reported screams coming from the MH.
The staging, the convenience store camera, the missing (for a while – until it was replaced with another??) and the lack of evidence as Tobias mentioned.
Perhaps some fluids would have escaped into the blanket and that is why it was washed.
(Still remember the police saying the washing machine was running when they got there.)
Perhaps something connected with the death had been tossed in the dumpster, but was retrieved and given to Timmy (interesting, have to do some research on him!) or Tommy.
Timmy seems to be the one Misty had the most phone calls with that night.
It was an accident, but not an accident – the only reason it would happen is if drugs had been introduced to the nebulizer. It would have been manslaughter at least don’t you think?
Someone said earlier today which seemed to ring a bell how they felt Misty hadn’t put her head down all night (why the bed was still made) – seems to all make sense.
Ann
Maryd, You have a good point about about the bike. I saw a little bike in in some of the pictures of the yard, but don’t know if it was Halieghs. Tommy was there when she was riding the bike too. Haleigh might have hit her head and died later in the evening.
possible! Who knows he didn’t run home flying and hit her…does it get dark early there.lol i dunno?
looks like someone would have seen or heard tho a womans scream was heard wasn’t it?
I completly agree CathyJo ,Ron and Misty have been bonded since day one of this if he didn’t know what happend and wasn’t responsible there is no way he would cover for her. Situations like this tear most couples apart,but not them
maryd:
Some of your theory is supported by witness accounts of what was reported to police that night. Screeching cars, alot of traffic, people screaming/fighting/arguing. I thought all along that HaLeigh was injured accidently in an accident there that night but I am convinced that Ron is involved in the accident or someone else would have been missing right along with HaLeigh that night.
I don’t think that Tommy or Joe is involved in whatever it is that happened to HaLeigh.
I still believe that it is Ron, Misty and Teresa. Until LE proves otherwise that is my opinion. Those were the initial reports from the neighbors that moved from the park right after the incident and have not been heard from since. I hope LE know where they are.
Ann,even Tim and Cobra i think it was Cobra said ron told them the bed had not even been slept in and no wash powders but i use shampoo whatever i have for emergency laundry and then we hear Tommy stole dish liquid,not that it has to do with Haleigh but why does someone steal dish liquid,but i guess he wouldn’t let Lindsey buy it? but did buy dog shampoo obviously! just odd!
Me Cathy? No, I just post and run usually. Don’t like hitting refresh too many times. Wasn’t sure i understood your apology above. I may have missed something. I for one spend most of my night reading on this case. Like to listen to the feedback.
you are so right on Chakra,then a tattoo on the “maybe” killer,come on ya know!
CathyJo63,
Don’t worry about anything!
This is so frustrating for everyone as we all have feelings of helplessness. Can’t begin to imagine how more profound it would be if the frustration dug up terrible memories one’s own past.
You are a great person to be able to deal with it as you do and be proud of who you are today!
God bless you and always keep you safe.
((hugs)) Ann
Most people Chakra who have a child missing or gone like that..their marriage don’t survive because they close off and then blame one another!
Someone needs to put a fire under Misty. She needs to finally tell the truth. Maybe after she sees her brother go down for 15 years? Hope getting that much should have got her talking if she is just covering. She may be more guilty than we all think, She may be the killer.jmo
I am sure i am being unfair but I do know parents can do very bad things to their own children!Maybe it’s why i took a differnt opinion now,i dunno but just saying.jmo ya know!
ok,Mary…ty! lol
Thank You Ann,I really appreciate the understanding!!!!!!
Means alot!
(((hugs)))
Does anyone still remember what day it was Ron seemed to almost run over someone at the bus stop?
Ann
Right Tobias,dunno if they’d care but i’d start spreading rumors about the death penalty,and see what they did but then again c/a didn’t care……well i am wrong aboout c/a,its the only real tears she crioed…ever!
The morning they went to GGSykes to get clothes and then drop Haleigh at school.
mmmm,wasn’t it that day she went missing?
CathyJo63 said,in May 5th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
I totally agree. I cannot see why they would hide it if it were truly an accident. Something bad is being kept under wraps.
I also agree with your 3:39 post, the blanket surely had another mans dna on it, or it had Haleigh’s body fluids.
yea so why didn’t sykes bring THAT SHIRT too?
washing laundry,and blankets.hmmmmmmm
CathyJo said:4:12
and don’t forget the scotch brite pads, I mean who is going to steal cleaning supplies that’s probably why he was pissed at LC for spending money on supplies,silly Linsey what are you thinkin we steal our cleaning supplies Hee Hee
sorry couldn’t resist
right Michelle,she made sure we knew she’d washed them,so why?? if you commit a crime and destroy evidence……..whats the point????? unlesssssss the washer was going when le came!stil;l it makes me wonder!
right Michelle,she made sure we knew she’d washed them,so why?? if you commit a crime and destroy evidence……..whats the point????? unlesssssss the washer was going when le came!stil;l it makes me wonder!
Chakra,sometimes i can’t resist,lol its hard not too in this case!
hard TOO,my minds gone!lol
right too Chakra,why cleaning stuff,its crazy?
oh I can just see one of us stealing guns,and reach the door and think”hmmmmm wowwwwwwwww dish soap!
CathyJoe63,
Sunset was at 6:09 pm that evening.
Ron clocked in at work at 5:00. However, for some reason his lawyer said (besides Ron getting the time of 4 pm instead of 5 pm for start of his shift) he also arrived fifteen early, but didn’t clock in.
Interesting. As Simon pointed out – there is just too many ‘extras’ with Ron’s stories.
They say 26 mins. from trailer to work.
Wish they had processed that purple car!
Ann
Maybe two theories can be incorporated here. Misty was hit by the Van when she was out riding her bike. She got bruised and battered but not dead. Ron didn’t want her to go to the hospital because of CPS’s involvement. She was in pain later that night and Ron told Misty to give her pain meds cause he didn’t want her taken to the hospital. That’s when she gets sick and vomits on her blanket and soon after passes. That’s when Tommy is called over to help. Just another theory. I have more than GM Flo.
Doesn’t Lindsy know that people are contacting her in various ways,to go back online and tell people what she’s said and what she’s doing.Why is she trusting people online,they don’t really care about her.They are only getting attention online for themselves,acting like their her friend.
How does she think people know what she’s doing before it’s made public?Does she want her kids photos spread all over the internet?Does she think because they send her money,thier her real friend,no they want her to trust them so she’ll tell them information they can spread back on the boards and twitter.They want her to trust them so she’ll tell them what she’s telling LE,and information about this case,so they can go back and spread it to everyone.Geesh,get a clue.
Bloggers know just about everything going on with her and what’s on her myspace page,where she’s going,doing and who she’s talking to.Duh,what is wrong with these people,they think they’re celebrities,noone cares about them,only want info for the case to look important.
Right Ann,exactly! like the pic artist statement with the door!
CathyJo-
about the other mans DNA do you think misty was entertaing company there at the MH i.e. White Boy Greg or someone else
I see your point Mary..very possible,these people don’t think period!
and too,he’d been reported before so that could happen,he sure didn’t want Crystal to have the kids back! didn’t he have a truancy thingy with school too b/c Haleigh missed so much!
Maryd at 4:33
interesting theory,certainly includes the facts known and Rons involvement
attention no doubt,my view of Crystal has changed too,wasn’t great before,lol but she’s immature!
Chakra,either that or she was maybe entertaining the man who molested her before! Crazy!!
But jr said…….(well i think maybe coached) but said man in black,couch bouncing? if he wasn’t coached that man in black could be reverse order! ya know.
attention no doubt,my view of Crystal has changed too,wasn’t great before,lol but she’s immature!
meant that part to Winter,lol
and somehow i think they were caught and had to so Haleigh couldn’t tell her dad!
We have heard Tommys tapes wonder when Mistys will come out? It seems Lindsy visited with her and Dustin. I feel Lindsy and Misty had a falling out when there was that fight with Hank over his pills. Thats when she went to stay with CJones. jmo
maryd,
You have an excellent point!
Ann
I’m so relieved I’m not the only one who doesn’t trust TN, (thank you stilllucy and others). NG worships her, it’s irresponsible. A normal person would have been running around the neighborhood, screaming their child’s name and banging on doors WHILE they were on the phone to 911. These people are all so self centered that their covering for themselves and each other are likely about dumb, fairly inconsequential things. Like covering their own drug usage, stuff like TN is doing. No Mom defends their son’s GF like TN has done for Misty. TN is covering as bad as any of them, I wish NG would see the light.
true CathyJo, personally I have never been able to rule out white boy greg although he supposedly passed a LD test or said he did although Misty said she passed too hmmmmm, And Misty called WBG from the hospital when she visited Hank Sr. I have always thought it was about future plans to see each other again
And why was Lisa trying to get Mistys letters to Tommy? He told Hank for her to stop because it cost him money everytime and they did give them to him anyways. It was also brought up by G Holars that Misty was trying to get Lisa to do the same for her and Ron. LE has the letters I wonder what she wrote? jmo
Praise the Lord there Laura,
I always said,”Happiness is your mother n laws face on a milk carton”,mine was pure eveil!!!!!!
not all are cause I think i am a good mom n law! lol
no mother n law really goes that far,lol
and especially when she lost your grandbaby!
maryd,
Maybe Haleigh accidently ran into the van and left the marks – while Ron was still home and she got more than DFS recommended in punishment as he has a temper and was having a very bad time with Misty.
With crying, etc., an asthma attack came on and the drug infested ‘nebulizer’ used to help her caused, as someone said, cardiac arrest?
As all abusers do, he probably blames Misty, who doesn’t know any better, that she is really the one to blame because of her behavior the previous weekend.
Ann
Not for a 17 year old they have barely known for 4 months and lost their grand daughter. jmo
Ahhh,I never knew that Chakra?
NEW ARTICLE – NEW AUDIO – Sounds like it is going to be a doozey too!
And Then Laura,she said ron married her to keep her close,well she worried for nothing cuz the drugs kept em close!
I dunno Tobias but i wish theyd get more tapes! it shows how these ppl really are!
Thanks JB ! and thanks Simon and all
ann said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
maryd,
Maybe Haleigh accidently ran into the van and left the marks – while Ron was still home and she got more than DFS recommended in punishment as he has a temper and was having a very bad time with Misty.
With crying, etc., an asthma attack came on and the drug infested ‘nebulizer’ used to help her caused, as someone said, cardiac arrest?
As all abusers do, he probably blames Misty, who doesn’t know any better, that she is really the one to blame because of her behavior the previous weekend.
Ann
The only reason I’m not sure about that is because Ronald had such a loving trusting relationship on aire after Haleigh went missing. Don’t know where his guilt would come in unless it was his drugs in the inhaler, which is possible. All food for thought. Oh and thanks for pondering with me.
OMG WOWWWWWW got my wish,new article!
In under 5 min, Teresa got the call from Ron, dressed, grabbed her old LE jacket(was not employed there any longer),grabbed HaLeigh’s 8×10 picture, and drove 15 miles to Ron’s mh and arrived before most of the police officers. Sorry, can’t figure it out. Can someone PLEASE, tell me how this is possible? She was nearby somewhere. Had to be.
Hello all;
I think Chelsea and Lindsy are accepting the truth now.
Chelsea’s myspace mood (5/4/10): ‘Torn in pieces”
Lindsy changed her top favorite video today to Joan Jett’s: “I Hate Myself for Loving You”.
A week ago, Lindsy posted this to one of her YouTube ‘friends’ channel:
“Timmy I think had something to do with this, and Chelsea is covering up for him. I mean, they bailed almost as fast as Joe”
http://www.youtube.com/user/shugasweetmami
LoL lUCY,I’D LOVE TO KNOW MYSELF!
Theresa – both she and Ron immediately went into ‘grief mode’.
They by-passed the disbelief part, the high energy and complete focus on Haleigh which we generally see with parents whose children have gone missing. IMO
How does one get these new audios?
Thanks.
Ann
Stilllucy,
It would help to know the cell phone activity of that night. Did someone call Teresa earlier that night?
BBS,LOL
i’d say click home at the top of this page and click the date on the calendar!
i’d say click home at the top of this page and click the date on the calendar!
gonna fold laundry whilst i listen,lol
I don’t remember hearing anything about their cell activity. I don’t know if that info was ever released. I don’t believe that LE felt a grandmother could be culpable with this bunch. Who knows. Only time will tell.
Lindsy thought she’d sick Leonard and Nancy Grace on her in-laws because they owe her money! RFLMAO!!
stilllucy said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
In under 5 min, Teresa got the call from Ron, dressed, grabbed her old LE jacket(was not employed there any longer),grabbed HaLeigh’s 8×10 picture
—
The 8×10 always bothered me… especially when you factor in that TN told Greta that her first thought was Haleigh was hiding under
a bed. You don’t need to use an 8×10 pic
for facial recognition to find a kid under
a bed. It’s a tad much.
We Know Tommy had the yellow rope found in his trailer. Why in the world would Tommy cover for Joe- does not make since. I feel that Tommy covered for Misty. Maybe Ron Knows Hard to tell But Misty Killed her I believe. by accident.
I think she wud be naive enough to hear a story from Tommy’s ppl, (just a little while before their trial) and believe that Tommys account is true and inject herself as the corroborator… She wud be doing the only thing she knew how, to save her life and it wudnt be hard for her to corroborate a story, where she already suspected Joe as the perp… Out of believeing that she knew all along, or believeing she is being used and is trying to save her life.. I believe the latter to more likely…. just sayin…
wth????????????????Pinkyandduhbrain said,in May 6th, 2010 at 12:13 am stilllucy said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
In under 5 min, Teresa got the call from Ron, dressed, grabbed her old LE jacket(was not employed there any longer),grabbed HaLeigh’s 8×10 picture
—
The 8×10 always bothered me… especially when you factor in that TN told Greta that her first thought was Haleigh was hiding under
a bed. You don’t need to use an 8×10 pic
for facial recognition to find a kid under
a bed. It’s a tad much.
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