1st!!!!!!!!

LE is getting closer to nailing someone , I hope.

misty has a court date on the 6th. We’ll see if that includes a guilty plea on the dc’s.

I’m sure ng will jump on this now that simon has done her investigating for her.

Chelsea ‘just wants a reliable car’.

How about she would want to punish whoever did this to Haleigh?

Amazing how these people think.

Did Tommy call Haleigh his niece ?

Cricket said,in May 29th, 2010 at 11:25 am Did Tommy call Haleigh his niece ?

Thats what I heard.

Why would they have Tommy wired up and not ask the pertinent questions regarding Haleigh?

I also found it interesting when Tommy was asking if Lindsy spoke to Timmy and Chelsea. He then says, they tried me like they tried him.

Sounds like LE may be focusing on Timmy as well as Tommy.

Wow Lindsy saying “You guys can be your perfect incestuous family” speaks volumes! And I honestly think is goes from Hank Sr. on down!

WhyLie I got the same impression

LFJ,
Lindsy, also made a remark about incestuous tel
relationship.

I think Lindsy is suspecting Tommy in whatever happened to Haleigh. The phone call with GH when he was wanting his lawyer, first thing Lindsy asked was, was it you Tommy. That is very telling to me. His own wife thinking he is involved speaks volumes to me.

LFJ,
If Tommy were messing with Misty and her family
new and just pushed it aside like nothing happened.
maybe thats why she won’t say flat out won’t say that Tommy
did something to Haleigh,because her parents
won’t stand by her and throw her out like old
dish rag.

Wasn’t it said that Timmy did not pass his LDT?

where was Tommy the night things happened? Did he have an alibi?
I think Lindsay is actually pretty smart and wanting to do the right thing… but she totally lost me when she talked so abusive about the dog….

also she just got a new tat with Tommy’s name on her arm… and now she is whining about money….

I am sure she is really indigent… and raising three children alone would be so difficult. Is she the one that also lives in the trailer park where Ronald lived?

I think Lindsy was under the impression that whatever he told about HaLeigh, would set him free of the drug charges and he would be coming home.

all the tapes.

Cricket… are you asking if we are all referring to the same tape? I am speaking of the most current one with Tommy/Lindsay where she is really angry and visiting him at the jail.

Good to see you LFJ!!

Madmen,
The one’s that came out this morning,
I’ve played all 3 and they sound same
with the exception of Lindsy chewing
on him.

it is like 35 minutes long, Cricket… and it sounds like Tommy had met with someone and they only asked him one question….like if he knocked on the trailer door…

for some reason, this has Lindsay totally pissed…

Madmen,
There are 3 differnt tapes but they say the
thing
thats in the first one.

Is it just me or does it seem that in every conversation that Tommy has….all he wants to hear is everyone say “I love you Tommy” as much as possible.

Timmy&Chelsea live in Mass… and yes, the 3 kids are his

IF, Tommy is in on any info that LE could use, you can bet the bank that they would give him a deal on the drug case. That’s a “gimme’. Anything to help solve this embarrassment of this case. It’s as if LE is pitting the Croslin’s against each other to spill what they know. I think that LE has a good idea of what happened, they just need someone to verify events of the evening that HaLeigh went missing. IMO

bac…but what connection is that with Lindsay??

BAU, glad too hear all is well with you. I AGREE!! People need to leave CathyJo alone!! CathyJo is a beautiful person!!

ok.. one more question then.. so Timmy and Chelsea also lived in Florida and then pretty much left over nite when this happened with Haleigh?

I Don’t think it was overnight… some believe that it was. But, I think the family say it was planned.

I try not to say anything when someone
starts in on CathyJo.

But most of the time I have to respond
to their ignorance .

I think Lindsy is on the wrong path by blaming her husbands criminal exploits on Misty. I have a feeling that Tommy was doing drugs and committing crimes long before Misty was.

Stillucy, I dont think it was that long. The Baker County search was in June and Timmy and Chelsea had already left.

Man in the audio she really has ways to let Tommy know what a loser he is! At one point she says guess me and the kids will go eat at a soup kitchen for Easter, then Austin says something about not being able to get presents when Christmas comes and she makes a comment like don’t worry I will live in a box before I don’t get you Christmas presents, don’t worry Mommy is here, Mommy will always take care of you even all by herself.

stilllucy said,
in May 29th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

Timmy & Chelsea left for MA after their baby was born, sometime around July, 2009
————
Not only just born but she had a C-Section and left like 2 days later for the move to MA. Sounds like they were in a hurry to get the hell out of Dodge.

Yes I agree. Hank Sr. in the article just released whether it is the truth or not said the contractor let Tommy and Timmy as well as himself go due to Haleighs disappearance and Misty is the key. He was implying that none of them could get work around there in Palatka.

Question – Where are Lindsy’s parents? She talks about her grandfather but I have never heard anything about her actual parents. Did her grandparents raise her?

Lets just speculate it was in July. That is when that explosive rumor went through Satsuma. I truely believe LE made sure that rumor got put out into the public. The rumor where LE had found Haleigh and she had overdosed and they were not sure if it was intentional or accidental, but they were suppose to be getting tox screens back and then they would know. The rumor stated that they were looking specifically at Ron and Misty. On Aug.6th2009 Tommy went to get Misty from Ronalds along with Hank Sr. and Lisa. They said Misty called crying and wanted them to come and get her. That she did not want to be with Ronald anymore. Ron and Tommy fight. Ronald goes to jail. A couple of weeks later ratgate happens. Then all of Mistys LDTs, VLT and hypnosis. On top of all of this Timmy and Chelsea left in July to move to Mass. What MAYHEM!! Does this mean Haleighs body can be found and that she truely did OD?

looking for Justice said,
in May 29th, 2010 at 1:26 pm

Vaq, can you remember Chelsea gave birth? Did she give bith in Gainseville? I would think the announcement would of been in the Palatka Daily. Perhaps she had problems with her pregnancy and they were sending her to Shands. I was thinking they left before the Baker County search.
===================
It was beginning of July. I have a few things to do right now but when I get through I will see if I can find it. I believe she was in the same hospital Hank was in after his car accident.

Could this be what is going on in the Haleigh case?
Organized crime?
Good show on right now – Simon – Surviving the Mob.

vaquera
If you’d check Orange County active/inactive in General court.Remember around Culpeper,they visited her family.This is what he was talking about almost getting prison in Virginia.

What’s Timmy’s criminal history look like, anyone?

I agree Misty needs a mental evaluation,it couldnt hurt.

I thought Timmys time was served over a theift conviction.Never saw it in writting though.We would have to know the stae,an town he lived in at the time to look it up right?was he a minor when he went to prison/Juvy?

Family ties in Mass,Tenn,Fla.So he would most likly have served his time in one of these states.What town ,i dont know.Unless a NCIC check was run on him nation wide,(that cost to run one)I dont want to know that bad lol.

Cricket said,
in May 29th, 2010 at 12:47 pm

VQ,
Its a toss up on which one is lying.
Wanna flip a coin ?
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Any which way it comes up sadly Haleigh loses 🙁

Deb,i do believ it is possible,to do with organized crime.In Putnam,an some of These people. Johnny sheffield being one involved in it.

omggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg,omgg……i just read the article,brb go listen!

and mg imo!

if she cared about Haleigh let him talk!
I would!

she’s all mad,and asked,you see how tan i am….jeeez!

rofl,haha i was kiddin cause i whined yesterday about it!lol
Have u saw the tape?

Can anyone save me from Art’s site? I think just prior to the LDT, rumors came out that Tommy told LE he lied about knocking on the door and I think Werter confirmed that for Art. If I remember right, the LDT was on the Thursday prior to the dock search so it would have been on April 8.

If what I remember is true, Lindsy is mad in this tape about Tommy lying about the knock on the door and not the LDT since Tommy hadn’t taken it until that night, assuming this tape is on April 8. Lindsy mentions Tommy going to court on Thurs for something. Does anyone remember his April court date?

I think on the phone call tapes, Tommy talked to Flora on Sunday the 11th and he also talked to Timmy while Timmy was at work on the morning of the 12th and he was still trying to get in touch with Lindsy. So I don’t think this tape is after the LDT.

lemme find it lori,if i can?

Posted: 10:00 AM ET
The missing 5-year-old, vanished from her trailer in February 2009. According to Werter, Tommy Croslin says he and his cousin, Joe Overstreet, visited the home where Haleigh Cummings lived with her father Ronald Cummins and his then girlfriend, Misty Croslin, the night Haleigh Cummings went missing. Werter says Overstreet wanted to borrow an automatic rifle at the home to go deer hunting and that Overstreet became irate when he learned the gun was not there. “Things happened from there,” Werter said, explaining Croslin, Jr. went into the trailer bedroom to find Overstreet in a rage and Haleigh Cummings no longer alive.

Haleigh Cummings
Has the father of missing 5-year-old, Haleigh Cummings, struck a plea deal?

Today we learn Ronald Cummings and his attorney, Terry Shoemaker, are negotiating to secure Cummings a lighter sentence on drug-trafficking charges. Cummings, charged with five counts of trafficking Hydrocodone, faces a minimum of 83 years in prison. Shoemaker says he’s currently working to secure a prison sentence of 15 years or less for Cummings in exchange for Cummings’ statement in the drug-trafficking cases slated to proceed against Cummings’ ex-wife, Misty Croslin, and Croslin’s brother, Tommy Croslin. The statement, Shoemaker says, would likely bolster the State’s cases against Misty and Tommy Croslin. A trial date for Ronald Cummings remains scheduled for July 19.

New jail recordings released between Tommy Croslin and Flora Hollars

A conversation between Tommy Croslin and Croslin’s grandmother, Flora Hollars, has just been released. Tommy Croslin tells his grandmother he fears for the lives of his children. Will these newly released audio tapes finally clear up what Croslin told Hollars about Haleigh’s disappearance? And does the call explain why Tommy Croslin has not revealed more about the night Haleigh Cummings vanished? Tune in to Nancy Grace Friday, 8:00 p.m. EST to hear Tommy Croslin’s attorney, Jim Werter, talk about Haleigh Cumming’s disappearance, in what Putnam County detectives are now calling a homicide investigation.

Posted by: Alexis Weed

was it the 30th Lori??

rofl,I dunno why ppl get mad cause i’m here so much,i mean lord whyy??
i don’t get it?? lol
I have never once noticed whose here when,what time…..just i know i see ya daily?? and when i don’t?

Cathy, it was before we had any tapes at all. I think Art wrote about the failed LDT right after the dock search on April 13 started maybe?? And not long before that he had written about Tommy changing his story and saying he lied about going to knock on the door that night in order to get his bond reduced when he was in jail for the gun theft charges.

I have to run out for a while. I appreciate you searching for me. I’ll help look when I get back. 🙂

If sherriff Hardy was elected with a promise to clean up the drug trade.An clean up the ones in office,as investigating what,an who was currupt in LE in Putnam.Then we see how rampid the drugs flowed freely through that town.Maybe someone in office was involved in the drug trade,or removing Haliegh for a reason.Tied in with organized crime,or some who were in office before Hardy came on board.

The gangs in drug trade are scary.Im street smart,an not very scary.But these people are brutal.Some go as far as to chop the ones up there against with Machetties.How cruel is that.Not mentioning the guns.Could Ron have delt with these people at one time.Its said in the streets amoung the druggies he ripped someone one off for a large amount.Could the big boys got back at him.

Could any of this curruption be the reason Haliegh isnt anywhere to be seen today.Could she have been a target to get back at Ron,or even her grandad Johnny Sheffield.Or could JS be involved somehow,having his grand child hid,just could get to JR before Misty woke.He was exle.

Im not believing nothing or no one untill evidence,an an arrest is made.With a body,bone,or her gold neclace she wore all the time comes to surfice.Two cinder blocks,an 2 in jail pressured isnt making a believer out of me
.

Show me evidence.These people arent smart enough,street savy enough to committ a perfect crime.

Tommy told Lindsy he took it that day. It sounds like she spoke with his attorney after he took it. She sounds upset that he lied and did not pass the LDT. He keeps telling her it wouldn’t make a difference in regards to his drug charges.

Personally I think Tommy did go to the MH that night and what he actually lied about was him knocking on the door.

I’m here all the time too Cathy. I don’t post too much because I stay behind.

no, this tape where they were arguing was definitely AFTER the LDT, because lindsy is all tan and back from her “vaca” in mass. also, that’s the complete and total subject matter of this tape, the way i understood it, all that talk about how “it couldn’t help (tommy) anyway”, and lindsy being upset that he “couldn’t even tell the truth” about the “one question” that was relevent, which was the knocking on the mh door.

I knew that was the way it was gonna work out?? omg,he doesn’t know hes the one who caused it by lyingggggg!

exactly *whylie*

I think Werter may have put out a statement too about the timeline of the LDT and Tommy’s talk with LE and then the search. I’ll look for it too.

Did he specifically say he took a LDT? I thought he took it at night. I think he may have been talking about being questioned about that night again and not the LDT but it may be that I just need to listen to the tape again.

it was after the LD????????

LINDSEY SAID THAT WAS THE SPINE,AND YOU LIED!

he said,you shouldn’t come and see me if you gonna be a jerk,ive got too much on MY mind!

tough, Lindsy could also be taking her frustrations with Tommy and his family out on the dog. Lindsy has said on more then one occasion how much she hates that dog. I hope somebody goes and checks on the well being of the dog. No animal deserves to spend their lives in a cage.

she was gonna file a claim hank took her money?? thats mean!!

but she’d be crazy to stick with him,no way in hellooooooooo i would!after that!

*cathyjo* ~ i know…when i first heard that about calling the cops on hank re: the money he owed her, it threw me too…but then i started thinking…with the mood she was in (and for good reason!) it seems like she was simply lashing out at anything to do with tommy (the dog, his family, his dad…etc)

she doesn’t seem hateful and vindictive as a person to me…seems like she’s just simply HAD IT WITH EVERYTHING and she’s furious!!!

(remember the old addage, “hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”? lol…who could blame her?) 😉

imo

i can’t blame her for hating tommy,lol i do just by his reactions to how she fells?? plusss all the times before this with drugs,no money?

Well if Joe murdered Haliegh they need to pick his azzzz up.I can see how people would be scared if they saw him murderer someone right before their eyesd.I know any 17 yr old girl would be.An may be scared enough not to tell.

But its said Mistys first LDT was inconclusive,she only started failing them.After being out hearing all the stuff being said.Then she started failing them.

IF one of those 3 murdered that baby,an took her an dumped her.OMG that makes me so angry!!!

I still say ill believe it when someone produces something of Haliegh.But then we have Attornys believeing this,PIs believing this.Oh MY!! this case is driving me nuts.

Hey CathyJo!!! I found an article @ Art Harris.com titled NO Party I was sleeping October 4th,2009. It talks about and list the complaint against Timmy Croslin By Ronald Cummings. This is after the fight with Tommy and ratgate.
Cathyjo you are better than I at cutting and posting articles. This is a good one with alot of info.
Thanks in advance.

Lindsy probably doesn’t have money to
feed her kids much less feed a pit bull.
Not everyone loves animals that way other’s
It’s me expecting someone to love my husband
just because I do.

i guess i see some of myself in lindsy…i was a “good girl” married to someone who was definitely NOT a “good guy”, though he wasn’t ever involved in anything as serious as tommy may/may not be…

i identify with alot of the emotions she’s expressing, and in fact, with some of the exact words she’s using in this tape…”its always left to me to pick up the pieces” …

i hope she does find the courage to continue with the divorce, and then get herself and those little kids of hers away from that mess.

imo

In this article also it talks about Chelsea getting ready for her c-sction to me it sounds like she was in Mass when she had the baby. I may have read it wrong. See what you all think once our great Cathyjo does her cut and post.

OJ,
Tommy strikes me as the type who tries to
make a dog as mean as can.

I had brother-in-law that made his pit bull so mean he was afraid of it himself, the dog went
live at his parents and every time he showed
up that dog would go crazy and he wouldn’t
even go near it.

Cricket said,
in May 29th, 2010 at 3:36 pm

VQ
great answer, that learned me no joking
when it has to do with Haleigh’s outcome.
——————–
Nothing wrong with joking 😉

CathyJo, are you addressing me? If so the article is at Art Harris.com. The article is titled No Party I was sleeping. dated October 4th, 2009 You can find it in the archives.

Since all of the individuals involved that are in jail and the parents/family of the involved live on and make their living selling pills or have a history and arrests or a so called “problem” with pills, why the hell didn’t they take some birth control pills along with the downers? Definitely would have stopped this chain of misfits and taxpayers money.

toughcookie..I was a DV hotline volunteer years ago..got crazy a couple times.

Whylie
Cathy no’s what she’s talking about. I was
also an abused child, wife even friends.
I, didn’t no what a life without meant.

toughcookie said,
in May 29th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

no, this tape where they were arguing was definitely AFTER the LDT, because lindsy is all tan and back from her “vaca” in mass. also, that’s the complete and total subject matter of this tape, the way i understood it, all that talk about how “it couldn’t help (tommy) anyway”, and lindsy being upset that he “couldn’t even tell the truth” about the “one question” that was relevent, which was the knocking on the mh door.
——————
or was she burned from having a good time at the beach. We did see a picture of her at the beach in a bikini

Vaq, I am hoping that CathyJo can get it for us, but if not go there and read it. Tell me what you think of the article.

shux,can’t find it!

Lori said,
in May 29th, 2010 at 3:50 pm

Can anyone save me from Art’s site? I think just prior to the LDT, rumors came out that Tommy told LE he lied about knocking on the door and I think Werter confirmed that for Art. If I remember right, the LDT was on the Thursday prior to the dock search so it would have been on April 8.

If what I remember is true, Lindsy is mad in this tape about Tommy lying about the knock on the door and not the LDT since Tommy hadn’t taken it until that night, assuming this tape is on April 8. Lindsy mentions Tommy going to court on Thurs for something. Does anyone remember his April court date?

I think on the phone call tapes, Tommy talked to Flora on Sunday the 11th and he also talked to Timmy while Timmy was at work on the morning of the 12th and he was still trying to get in touch with Lindsy. So I don’t think this tape is after the LDT.
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I don’t either unless someone lied about the date of the LDT..like Werter

When did Werter tell Art Harrass that he was no longer representing Tommy on anything concerning Haleigh??

Since we don’t know all the fact and evidence in the drug cases, though it looks awfully damning, here’s a little something on entrapment that may be worthy of discussing or just reading.

I’m sure the lawyers for all 3 plus hope sykes attorney have knowledge of how a defense may offer it up as a defense.

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The standard for entrapment in Florida is as follows: it is not entrapment when the police intend to disrupt ongoing criminal activity and use reasonable means to do so. Alternatively, if the police are going out of their way to take advantage of someone who is not otherwise involved in drug trafficking or a related drug crime, and they use unreasonable methods to do it, the defense of entrapment can work. However, if the state can show that the defendant is predisposed to commit the drug crime, i.e. he/she has sold or been involved with illegal drugs before or was familiar with how drug deals work and the terminology, the entrapment defense is problematic, unless the defendant can show that the police’s conduct was particularly outrageous.

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All of these folks through prior arrests and from their own admissions, were users and sellers.

It may worth a stab at a defense with this, but I haven’t heard ANY of the attorneys, to this point, offer it up as a defense. That may change closer to their trial dates.

Looks like ron is tryong to plead becasue he knows he’s been caught red handed. We’ll see what happens.

Cricket said,in May 29th, 2010 at 4:43 pm Whylie
Cathy no’s what she’s talking about. I was
also an abused child, wife even friends.
I, didn’t no what a life without meant.

Alot of us didn’t! and it’s easy to understand it when you know from experience,nobody ever brought the subject up,but i know Lindseys an enabler,but its what i meant when i said,it was easier for me when my husband drank,cause I never knew him sober?

yes, *cathyjo*, i think you’re right…it took this last straw to break the camel’s back, in lindsy’s situation, and now that she’s “out of his reach” so to speak, she may be able to finally break free! hope so.

imo

Toughcookie
Sorry I don’t even remember what it was about.

*jaba* ~ thanks for posting that ! i have made many comments here re: the fact that these people involved in the drug bust could never have been “busted” in the first place, if they weren’t ALREADY involved in the drug biz to begin with.

imo

people just don’t know unless they have lived it,I got no secrets and yall know i loved my husband but i was a very controlled and sheltered woman,I couldn’t visit my own family,I couldn’t just go somewhere because i wanted too!
and after he passed and after 25 yrs of marriage to him,I live alone,I am single,I have a car, I can’t budge unless i make myself and one day i wondered why am i this way?
people get mad at me for it but i can’t!
but then i figured out,that was my life then,and now its stuck there in my head..I was engaged to at the time i thought,a good man and loved him God how i did,and he didn’t ask for receipts from stores,he didn’t ask me to explain whose on the phone,he didn’t tell me its time for bed even if i wasn’t sleepy,he didn’t tell me what to wear…..but “I THOUGHT HE DID” and it was too hard for me and him!

thats the degree,I watched this documentary yrs ago of a woman who had accidently killed her husband who beat her her whole life,she was scared of him……so she shot him one night…..
she was cleared sure,but to that day she was still the woman he molded!!!!!!!!!

exactly tough!! sorry guys,i did get emotional there and its hard to admit sometimes i let myself live that way but i know scared,i knw sheer terror because i could hear my husbands car coming a mile away!and just dreaded it and so scared!
after 20 yrs i got to the point though i told him,I hate you when you’re drunk,I’m scared and he knows if he were here right now,I’d still say it because it’s the honest Gods truth!

Tough,

I hear ya’. These are people you can catch because their lives are caught up in drugs before anything else. Including their families.

If we see or hear that something off camera took place in violation of the law, then kick the charges. That’s only fair.

If not, then get ready for some hefty sentences of the guilty.

ron and misty are in the same car on tape more than once. Why would ron plea if he was entrapped?

Tc talks about the time he ‘hopes’ to get. Why? Because he knows he’s guilty as charged. Why did hope plead, because she was guilty as charged. Her appeal time on the sentencing has expired with nary a peep from anyone representing her, nor any family member speaking to the media to shed light on the wrongdoing being done to her. There’s a very simple answer to that.:)

Jaba–It seems like Misty might have a case for entrapment, whether her lawyer uses that defense or not. Does she have a prior arrest record for drugs/drug dealing? Out of all the players, she is the only one who stands a chance of using entrapment as a defense. JMO

its so true about being hard to break out of that behavior. for years, and even still sometimes, because of my “chronic abuse” and the facts that i have had 5 (!!) stalkers in my lifetime (not THAT old…lol) i suffer/suffered from agorophobia, which is being afraid to leave your house. it was maddening! i wanted to join the “real world” and behave like a normal person, going places, doing things, living a “normal” life…but fear held me in its clutches…

my whole point in all of my comments here, is just that i can see lindsy (and even misty for that matter) as an abused person.

imo

We were contacted several months ago by Art Harris about someone copy/pasting material from his forum to our site and asked that we remove it. So out of courtesy we have removed this post and will remove any other posts copy/pasted from his site.

Jan Barrett – BNN Editor

Tough,exactlyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!

((((tough)))))))

lol Cricket.yea!!

yea robin true,and she was underage then,thats why they waited till 18 to grab her!
thats cruel!

jaba said,in May 29th, 2010 at 11:25 am I’ve seen misty admit on jail tapes to her dealing. She said she ‘wasn’t going to take ALL the charges’ but she knows she’s on the hook for some.

I remember her quoting a price of 190 then ron corrects her that its actually 189.

Sounds like a sale to me. Am I missing something?
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
your missing plenty lynchmober, illegal police actions like ENTRAPMENT are grounds to get the charges dismissed.

was looking for an article,shux

rofl,he can put it out for the world and he’s worried what cathyjo says,hmmmm

ty looking,even tho it gor removed,lol

I am sorry Jan…I had no idea we were not allowed to do that. Thank you for the info.

re: the drug charges…i realize that we have tougher and tougher drug sentencing as the years progress…but my goodness…i still can’t get over the fact of these young people spending the better part of their futures doing prison time from this bust…

i’m not saying drug dealers should get off easy, so don’t misunderstand me here…its just that i am in awe when i think of how easily it seems to happen, and in the blink of an eye, one is doing 15 – 25 years!!! how easily one moment in time, one decision made in the wrong direction, and one’s entire young life is basically gone…

imo

CathyJo,
It’s written in the Misty is gonna get out
this mess and you gonna adopt her.
And life for her gonna be a bowl of cherries.

It was supposed to be written in the stars

Misty Cummings
Cummings and the two children were living together when he met Croslin in 2008.

Sykes’ first impression of the petite teen came from the children.

“The kids adored her and she seemed to adore them back,” Sykes said. “I mean they’d cry to go back to her.”

Sykes said she saw another side of her grandson’s girlfriend in the months after Haleigh vanished, when Cummings, Croslin and Ronald Jr. moved in with her.

“You can’t threaten her or do anything to her emotionally or mentally that will affect her,” Sykes said. “She doesn’t have the ability.”
Sykes said even repeated interrogations by investigators had little impact.

“When the sheriff’s department was threatening her and doing all their doings and stuff, it didn’t faze her,” she said.

Sykes said Croslin’s childhood may have dulled her emotionally.

“She basically was here, there and yonder,” Sykes said. “I don’t reckon she knew from one day to the next where she was going to be.”

Croslin was born in Michigan, but the family of five moved to where her father, Hank Croslin Sr., could find drywall work, her parents said. They spent time in Tennessee, her mother’s home state, and Colorado before moving to Florida.

When their daughter was in the sixth grade, they were living in Flagler County.

“I’d send her to the bus stop,” her mother, Lisa Croslin, said. “She’d never get on the bus. If it was a day she wanted to go, she’d go. If it was a day she didn’t want to go, she would hide.”

“She can’t read,” her father said. “She was behind in class just like all of us.”

Reading disabilities run in the family, he said.

“I can’t read at all,” he said.

At about 15, Misty bought a bus ticket under a false name and moved to New Jersey with a boyfriend. After several months and with the help of a social worker, she was found and brought home.

About that time, the Croslins moved to Putnam.

Her father said she began hanging out with Kristina “Nay Nay” Prevatt and Amber Brooks, who is the mother of Cummings’ other son.

Both Prevatt and Brooks have drug arrest histories. The weekend before Haleigh disappeared, Misty was with Prevatt. “That’s where all the trouble started, hanging around Nay Nay and Amber,” her father said.

He said he couldn’t convince her to distance herself from the new crowd. Misty was more trouble than the Croslins’ two sons, he said.
“She was the wildest one,” he said. “She was.”

On Feb. 9, the night after Croslin returned to Cummings’ mobile home from the weekend of partying, Sykes dropped by. She said she was upset that Croslin had gone off and left her grandson without anyone to watch over the two kids.

“I was mad because Ronald let her come back,” she said. “But it’s his house. There wasn’t nothing I could do about it other than be mad.”

By the next morning, Haleigh was gone.

dana.treen@jacksonville.com, (904) 359-4091

In an earlier version, it was stated that Cummings repeatedly called Misty Croslin’s brother the night Haleigh disappeared. Instead, he called Misty Croslin’s phone several times and her brother once

i missed something ? what is it we are not allowed to do ? (just in case i’ve been doing it…) lol 😉

Do some research insteading of posting 1st on evry new post, douchebagger. 🙂

I didn’t mean a report card it’s attendance card.

Tough,

You have been flagged for too many rational posts. Now go to timeout and come back when you have a big ‘nothing’ to offer us. :):):)

*jaba* ~ WAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!>>>>running to timeout…

lol 😉

OMG Looking,i’d never seen that before???????????

Thats total backpeddlin if i ever seen it!!!!!!!!

AH suddely doesn’t want his info on this site Looking,we allllll been doin it,rofl

chelsea said herself if he’d got up she’d have known and misty wouldn’t even hear the baby cry and omg and nowwwwwww she turns around with totally new stuff,
mmmmmmmmmmHmmmmmmm
that tattoo stands for sommin!

If Misty, acted as tho she had no emotion
it’s because she’s abused child .they
learn early on not to show emotion.

Vaq. The article No Party I was Sleeping dated October 4th,2009 @ Art Harris.com in the archives

hmmppp…>>>>>>wiping snotty nose as we speak

Can you imagine how the “all you effing Croslins are all effing liars” must have made Austin feel really safe, secure and confident?? He IMHO probably suffers from guilt for all of the chaos and daddy being gone, and now mommy has just told you very explicitly you are a liar too. How very confusing to go from the normal effing “I love you” jail visit with daddy to the now effing “it’s all your fault”. Is the f word in every sentence in front of children really necessary?? Silly me, that is the least of the problem for these children. IMVHO How many times did Austin hear daddy was set up by the police for the past 4-5 months… that’s right mommy now has changed her mind. Perhaps she’s had time to catch up on not only her tan, but sleep as well. IMVHO

ou can’t threaten her or do anything to her emotionally or mentally that will affect her,” Sykes said. “She doesn’t have the ability.”
Sykes said even repeated interrogations by investigators had little impact.
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imo,she had the ability,she was just used to not listening to others cause no one cared enough to lay the law down to her!

It was heart breaking to hear little A know all about bonds. The tone of his voice when he said, daddy doesn’t have a bond?

Sad, sad situation.

the longer this case drags out, i see the meaning LE has as to “misty is the key” more like that she must know info that SOMEONE ELSE is the actual perpetrator, rather then MISTY HERSELF actually hurt haleigh. she may be a “liar”, but for me, its hard to imagine that SHE HERSELF purposely hurt, harmed or killed little haleigh.

imo

ou can’t threaten her or do anything to her emotionally or mentally that will affect her,” Sykes said. “She doesn’t have the ability.”
Sykes said even repeated interrogations by investigators had little impact.

****** iposted before,lol gone tho

but she had the ability,she was never told by anybody what to do…..had to raise herself and was used to nobody telling her what to do or laying the law down to her!

OJ this might be your best day so far,lol we all kinda see it different now for Minsty!

exactly right Toughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,thats why i wanted to talk to her somehow!

they have to find a way to make such an accusation!

cathyjoe theres a troll annoying me..
now I know how you felt yesterday.

Exactly CJ. Misty needs to be loved, to fit in, to be accepted. I think that is why the mention of the cleaning and washing the pee blanket. It was her way of letting everybody know that she loves the children and took good care of them.

I don’t think she was being deceptive about that. I will be extremely surprised if Misty played any direct part in what happened to Haleigh.

Not to mention on the VA test when asked if she had anything to do with what happened, she answered no and the computer said she was being truthful about that.

I always thought trolls were cut,i thought wrong!lol

WhyLie said,in May 29th, 2010 at 5:59 pm Exactly CJ. Misty needs to be loved, to fit in, to be accepted. I think that is why the mention of the cleaning and washing the pee blanket. It was her way of letting everybody know that she loves the children and took good care of them.

I don’t think she was being deceptive about that. I will be extremely surprised if Misty played any direct part in what happened to Haleigh.

Not to mention on the VA test when asked if she had anything to do with what happened, she answered no and the computer said she was being truthful about that.
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thats what i said because he even asked her then?
why am i getting you’re homding something back when you say ronald has nothing to do with it?

Misty….imo is following a script ALMOST like caseys,lol

grrrrrr,not great
On greta!

yea but mistys the youngest and look at her,she wants to work,get an education,she said this aint punishing me???

but tommy and ron all whine about how hard they have it,
Misty is smarter than either of em imo……..

wow…*whylie* i guess i had missed that little tidbit about her VA test showing no deception on that question ! if so, they need to consider that with as much weight as they consider the “deceptive” answers on the LDT. that should definitely tell them something !

imo

jaba said,in May 29th, 2010 at 5:34 pm Cathy,

Didn’t misty admit to ’some’ of the charges on jail tape? She said she wouldn’t take them ‘all’. How would that play with a jury, one would wonder.

If you just want her not guilty because you feel sorry for her, I understand that, but, you really don’t know her. I appreciate your compassion at this point, but I’m sure if something horrific comes out of her nouth about her involvment with Haleigh, IF it does, you’d rethink your position, I would think.

Not trying to stifle your emotions for her, just pointing out some possibilities.

When writing your letter, include the passage I posted if it will help her. Can’t hurt.

I also think all the ‘jailhouse’ lawyers in with her have been trying to give her legal advice as well as ‘ron’ advice.:)
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Jaba,i know you know i don’t want somebody found guilty cause i feel sorry for them,
I wannt her found not guilty because thats my opinion nowwwwwwwwww,
it has taken me this much time to learn myself?? that Misty is obviously the one who is wronged here,I doubt you or I will ever be able to talk to the jury to sway anybody!
But looking as the facts as they are now,imo Misty is as guilty as I am! and because of her life,its brought her into this because she wants to please everybody else!

Jaba Said,
When writing your letter, include the passage I posted if it will help her. Can’t hurt.

No but you don’t have to be so cold about it either!

CJ, you can see the response on the computer screen on the video of the VA test.

well Jaba,imo you act like you hate her,how do you know what she’s done just like i dont??

don’t insult me because i have a heart!

vaquera said,
in May 29th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
No, I don’t remember but I will look.LOL I do know Chelsea’s mother has ties to VA.

Do you remember when Chelsea gave birth and it was talked about over there? I suck at searching crap out.
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I believe that’s when the Mom lived around Spotsylvania and Orange and they had went to see them.So,it wasn’t really criminal,something about custody obstruction.The baby was born July 16 ’09

and before you get nasty cuz i know you will,i only said what i had to say after you insulted me by saying i felt sorry for her is why i wanted her not guilty,
My husband was murdered and thats a cruel damn statement!

She hasn’t been charged in the haleigh case, cathy. So there is no change of mind necessary to me either way. If she’s charged, then I can llok at the evidence and form an opinion.

Imo, based on the evidence I’ve seenn she is guilty of trafficking. I won’t be on a jury and I’m far from a judge, so none of it will matter. I do not plan on doing anything for the case than reading an posting here about it.

You have bigger plans and I wish you the best of luck. Your heart is in the right place, for sure. 🙂

I’ll bbl guys,now isn’t good,lol

Sorry Jan I posted that link to AH article before I read your comment.

My 6:04 post wasn’t in response to anything you’ve said.

Tommys ‘love yous’ seem to be code for change the subject.

*jaba* ~ that’s exactly what i’m wondering here…either i “missed” it, or i simply don’t remember.

toughcookie…. Ever time I think I have followed this case or have enough knowledge to discuss it, I realize I am clueless!!! IMO there seems to be a fair amount of news articles (some contradictory) about how in depth TImmy and Chelsea have been investigated.. They have been interviewed for several hours, (my understanding from news articles) however, not high on the person of interest meter?? It just all sounds way too hinky to me with the move to MA., Chelsea’s love fest with AH, and to a certain degree NG (which again IMHO, I thought she looked higher than a kite) the Leonard Padilla connection , which again IMHO he wouldn’t be giving them the time of the day if he didn’t think it would benefit him and provide media attention.. I think Timmy and Chelsea (Lindsy too for that maatter) know a whole lot more than some realize. IMHO

What do you think?

WinterRose… THANK YOU, My Friend!!!!

Jada…. I so agree with you about the “I love yous” I ask the very same question some time ago when (not this last dump) I would hear either especially Tommy or Lindsy saying that….. i.e. “I threw away your work boots” “WTF” I love you…. I know exactly what you mean!! I have thought is was a code phrase for a long time. Whew thanks for the sanity check sometimes I think I dream these scenarios up in my imagination…

vaquera, Is it possible that Timmy took Chelsea’s younger sibling across state lines without permission thus it being federal? Hmmm.

It would be interesting to find out if Timmy/Chelsea had “stolen” somebody elses child.

WhyLie said,
in May 29th, 2010 at 6:53 pm

vaquera, Is it possible that Timmy took Chelsea’s younger sibling across state lines without permission thus it being federal? Hmmm.

It would be interesting to find out if Timmy/Chelsea had “stolen” somebody elses child.
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I don’t know. good question though and I wonder how we could find out?

tough, That’s because he makes it up as he goes. LOL

Yep, padilla has ‘sources’ and is sometimes right.

He’s a character, for sure.

I think he really woke up after the casey case in that he’s more careful about his actions.

Nancy Grace rerunning croslin tape stories tonight on her weekend show if anyone has missed something.

Remember, she’s formed her opinion against all but ron in this case.

Watcher beware.:)

lmao *whylie* ~ “marshall dylan & miss kitty gone bad”….

And there are always weird background noises from padillas live feed. Sometimes it sounds like someone dropped two ladders they were carrying and sometimes I hear a baby crying in the background. 🙂

i admit, i don’t particularly care for ng…but i do watch occasionally for the info updates (the “bombshells”)lol…

as far as her opinion of ron goes, i think its interesting that, even in the face of certain questions, she will not even agree to look upon it objectively.

its almost like a LE person, who “has” their suspect, and even when proven wrong, will simply not admit it.

imo

Please let me clarify, the get high together was not in reference to the wives, that appears to be a manly bonding session in the Croslin family… I was referring to the family in general… I still find it profoundly sad the cycle is generational.

Jnet and Tough,

On ng:

She always talks glowingly of her twins and that makes me cringe becasue I can see right before she winds those phrases up and let’s um fly. I’m happy she loves those kids. She seems genuine abou that though the comments are very ‘sugar) like a Jolt Cola. I bet you won’t be snatching her kids from her presence even if have a bazooka trained on her. She’s going to kick the ass of the projectile with her eybrows if nothing else. That’s the way a strong parent would act. Save the kids at all costs. All costs.

I don’t ever hear her speak glowingly of her husband but maybe 2% of the time compared to the kids. She probably loves him and I bet he knows when to back off an argument with her. 🙂

On padilla: if I’m doing a live spot for roughly 3 minutes on national tv, I’d appreciate whoever is in the house, whether its ladder salesmen or my grandaughter who is teething, if they would KEEP IT DOWN during my spot, you know? Its so goofy. I look for new noises from his feed everytime. I’ve even tivoed one just to make sure it wasn’t coming from my attic. 🙂

oh great *jaba*…lol now you’re going to have ME looking out for those LP background noises!!
🙂

i understand that ng is proud of her children…all of us mothers are…however, i’ve posted here before that i think she’s really doing them a disservice, as far as their safety goes, by splashing their pics all over tv. many celebrities go to great lengths to be sure their children aren’t filmed, or photographed, and with good reason ! seems in this day and age, one can’t be too careful…there are nutjobs all over the place, and there are as many ng detractors as there are supporters, imo. would hate to think she may be putting them in jeopardy.

Jnet, It was said today or yesterday that Chelsea is shopping the letter(s) from Misty in exchange for a car to take her husband to work and her kids to school. LE does have copies but, not releasing them to the public.

LP is getting his info from the Croslin family, they tell him anything and everything for cash and gifts (cars).

I think Lindsey has finally seen the light. She is on her own, for at least the next 2yrs and 2months. It is costing her a fortune to keep Tommy happy with commissary money and phone calls. And the dog, animals are expensive to take proper care of. Just saying, it’s an expense she can’t afford. She has every right to be bitter. I just hope that she makes the right decisions but, she is young….

T,

I see your point on the kids and splashing them out there, especially with what she reports on nightly.

She probably has security of some sort and is very careful. But, like you said, nutjobs are out there and they don’t really have a rule book they go by.

Lindsy just playin games.

they are wierd.

TC, They have no scrupples…….They would have to know how to care for their family members to understand it. IMO

thanks *stillucy* i agree with you on that. i said it earlier today, seems like she has finally HAD IT with him, the family, the whole situation.

imo

vaquera May 29th, 2010 at 6:48

I wonder whose custody was obstructed? I know Chelsea has a little brother I wonder if it had something to do with that? Her big brother is wanted by the popo in FL.
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What is Chelseas maiden name? Anyone know?

The little 16 yo bro has at the end of myspace url…smoke_weed_everyday0214.Geesh!

WinterR,

Now that kid is going places. 🙂

Jan,

Don’t understand why my 2:39pm post was removed. It took some thought writing it, after which I had to go out. When I returned it was gone. Didn’t think there was any sensitive material there. Was there a reason that escaped me?

Thanks,
MaryD

toughcookie said,in May 29th, 2010 at 7:35 pm i understand that ng is proud of her children…all of us mothers are…however, i’ve posted here before that i think she’s really doing them a disservice, as far as their safety goes, by splashing their pics all over tv. many celebrities go to great lengths to be sure their children aren’t filmed, or photographed, and with good reason ! seems in this day and age, one can’t be too careful…there are nutjobs all over the place, and there are as many ng detractors as there are supporters, imo. would hate to think she may be putting them in jeopardy
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Did you ever see the tape of where she accused Crystal sheffield of “whoring and “exploiting ” JR on tv!

jaba said,
in May 29th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

WinterR,

Now that kid is going places. 🙂
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Along with the rest of the…what did Lindsy say,the perfect what family?Goodness…

winter,you saw the tape right? i hope…….if not you’re in for a treat!

My response to this story is filled with so many ifs. If Tommy is innocent in this Haleigh story ( which I doubt) then I hope he gets his time done for the drugs and hope that his wife can stick it out until then. It would really take dedication for Lindsy and the mindset of being a single mother.If he is guilty of murdering Haleigh or something of the sorts, then I hope he gets what is coming. I hope Lindsy moves on and can forget about him and what he has done and instead focus on her kids. I wonder what or if Misty and Tommy were doing on the couch that he didn’t want noone to talk about.

Michelle,me too…Move on and protect her kids and givem what they need most!
A mother!

Thanks WinterRose for the date Chelseas baby was born. Do you know if she was in Fl or Mass when she had the baby?
Anyone remember about the key to the mobile home. It was put out that Misty had lost her key and AS found it. In the tape where Misty is talking with her dad she said she gave her key back to Ronald so she did not have a key.

Grand theft auto? sheeeeeeeeesh! theres a proud moment….ahhhhhhhh i could afford to buy my kid a Grand theft auto game! lol

Sure cathy, when you are ready so am I. 🙂

On another note, I didn’t realize their was bad blood between this site and ah’s. I read comment #74 on his “hank croslin bashing post” on his site and have to say, he was way ruder than I would have imagined.

thatd be a first Jaba! ruder,lmao mhmm

CathyJo that is what I got from the article also; that Chelsea was in mass already when she had their last child. Earlier we were trying to figure out how long it was after Haleighs disappearance when they up and moved to mass.

all i know issssssssssssss real quick Looking,lol

Chelsea’s baby was born before they left for Mass. They left a couple days after her birth.

Hey…kelley,

Usually you hear a defendant scream entrapment well before their trial as their attorneys have to tip off the prosecution by the demands of discovery they make.

Its hard to “sneak attack” or blindeside a prosecutor with the entrapment defense unless something new comes up mid trial, imo anyway.

ohhhhhhhhhh,ok whylie,thats what i thought??

one thing,Misty said she gave it back before she left ron that day?? is that what you mean?

WhyLie so all the Mayhem went down at the end of July and first week of August and had a dominoe effect.

thats allz i’m saying,not beind mean!

Cathy, he posted your comments. They’re still there.

He’s in defense mode for sure after hanks accusations.

well well well but he don’t want his here,rofl

Not to make light on a serious subject, but you could play a drinking game with all of these Tommy tapes when he says “This/That is BS”

Todd, LOL. So true.

rofl todd,and i don’t know my a$$ from a hole in the ground game??

Coolio, cathyjo. Not taking any of your comments as mean. 🙂

lol imo games don’t make ppl kill and all but you do et an example ya know and these kids have seen plenty of it already!

mary,if you’i’d demand it back then,we wanna see that!!!!!LoL

HM LITLLE BEAR,LEMME SEE

Yes CathyJo that is what I meant. We all were talking a few weeks ago about the fact that Misty had lost her key somewhere, but AS found it. How could she have lost her key if she gave it back to Ronald when he allegedly threw her into a mirror and rolled her up into a ball because she showed him a positive pragnacy test and then packed her up and took her to her brothers home and left her there.

Cathy, try a colon : and a right parentheses ) one space past your last character or punctuation on your sentence.

🙂

Reading all this puts Lyndsy’s statement about throwing away Tommy’s work boots in a different light. Why was it so important for her to tell him this, and after she went to Mass no less.

Elle, lets not forget she also said she threw out Timmy’s…. I felt she gave them to LE with other.
It was a red flag then, and even more so now. I had asked if soil from the boots would be able to be used for forensic testing to see what part of the woods/area these two were in. I now will assume that LE did get soil samples and more off the boots and Timmy may be joining Tom or Ronald real soon.

almost found it,brb

Whose the ‘niece” Tom mentioned? Was there a question on his LDT about an incestuous relationship with one of his nieces?

Lindsy jealous of Tom’s relationship with his sister?

Jason @852

Agreed.

Gta is bad enough if you have good sense and guidance and a mature mind. Filling kids heads with all those nasty adventures on that game is over the top wrong.

Adults can choose and while the game isn’t for me, an adult playing it is part of the freedom we have in the U.S. But, do we really have to have a game that violent and over the top?

And on lindsy, I wish shed just give the dog up. She doesn’t need it nor want it. Let someone else have a chance to feed and care for the dog past a 20 dollar bill. Sheesh.
And when that dog playfully bites one of her kids and scars them for life being afraind of dogs, she’ll beat the dog. No question in my mind. The dog is an animal and needs to be ‘owned’ not just ‘kept’.

see threw out tommy and timmys boots?????? why throw out both??

let me tell ya too guys,if she is mean to a pitbull,she’s asking to be attacked or her kids,and i’d say the dog misses tommy,true enough but i’m sute tommy molded it after himself….get rid of it!

Jaba @ 9:17, ITA, let the dog live with someone who will love and care for him – take him for walks, play with him, treat him humanely.

jaba – The drug cases are well beyond the discovery phase. The prosecution has already presented all the evidence in the pre-trial hearings. The defense has already filed every motion to dismiss to the court and they all have been DENIED. It’s time for the defendants to decide either a trial by jury or let the Judge decide their guilt or innocent. I’m just tired of people in here saying they were entraped or that their prior abuse made them make the choices they made. That is all a crock of BULL MANURE !!! The typical defense of all guilty criminals is to blame the past abuse for their present problems !!! It’s all BS !!! Again , this is all just my honest opinion.

Werter said it was Tommy that gave the recent tip. We all hear Tommys call with G.Hollar he does not say Joes name. He does not give any details like Shell Harbour, the cinder blocks, yellow rope etc… G. Hollar said Misty told her in the 15 minute phone call that same day right after Tommys call about all the detailed info. We know from NG that it was Chelsea that gave G.Hollar the Shell Harbour location. Can someone tell me why Misty felt it was so important that G.Hollar call A.S. to tell her the info, in which led A.S. and T.N. over to Shell Harbour to do a search of their own all afternoon per Annette Sykes on the NG show?

WinterRose said,in May 29th, 2010 at 8:41 pm Kristie
I don’t know,but the poor me,I need money for this and that does get really old,since they know people are stupid enough to send them money.They know they’re being taped and people are listening.Some of them need to stand up and support themselves.
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yea seems like shes whining- needs to get off her Butt and get a Job I worked 2 jobs for 10 yrs- my parents kicked me out at 15 and I made it all on my own. she can too.

she shouldnt be crying to her husband he cant do nothin for her.

A pitbull is not an ‘inside dog’ mh or cage or apartment. Just isn’t enough room to play.

I hate to think what the three children have seen Lindsy say, and do to the dog.

its stupid is what it is,she gets on the internet she needs to type in pitbull attacks!

LFJ, I think all the mayhem was crazy. I do not believe that Haleigh OD’d and I do not believe that LE believes she did. They searched and drained the Mondex based on the statements of psycho Joe, who has a history of trying to defraud for money. I think he was just trying to get the reward money.

Chelsea and Timmy should have been questioned in depth before they ever left Florida, and given LDT. Heck they all should have been given LDT right from the start. Makes me wonder why they weren’t.

then she says she’ll report that Hank took””” her money but in the job interview she needed him to babysit!
for free!

I don’t know Linsey but I imagine she fell in love with Tommy for some reason. Who know’s maybe her family didn’t use the words “I love you”, often and it was music to her ears in that family. What she may not have realized is that they are just that words. I think she somehow stood by him through all his antics, and put some bated trust in him. She may be an enabler and doesn’t realize it. She now realizes his actions have destroyed their lives, their future and possibly the life of an innocent child. Who wouldn’t be fed up. Maybe the dog is a bad family choice. I sure wouldn’t pick a pit bull with small kids in the house. One of my fifty million theories was that maybe his dog got a hold of Haleigh that night and attacked her. We don’t know all of the variables here. So, I am trying to be unbiased. This is just MO…and who knows if it will even remain here. lol

Hkelley,

I agree with you.

If all motions are done and we are just waiting to impanel a jury or take it before judge then I doubt an entrapment defense is coming.

I wasn’t aware all of what you said was done, was done. Thx for the info.

We’ll see something on it the week after next.

Jaba – there are rescues to take un-wanted Pitbulls. Hopefully one or more will hear about him, and step into take him from Lindsy to place him in a better home.

WhyLie can you check please when Joe Pytco was arrested? See if it was in July 2009 or after. Then we will know if perhaps he is the one who gave LE the info and how the rumor originated. Thank you. I would do it, but I am not that handy with that kind of research.

I am not holding my breath on Lindsy learning anything, after all after this visit she still was there in court for him.

If she wants to do by right by her children she would divorce Tommy, get full custody, and change all of their names to anything besides Croslin.

CathyJo

You are too funny! lmao

Love you! lol

To ‘do right’ for her children, she needs to do a whole lot more than divorce Tom. A psych evaluation, counseling, parenting classes are in order for Lindsy, for starters.

oh,I hate you,lol well its getting old to me!lol

rofla@So, I am trying to be unbiased. This is just MO…and who knows if it will even remain here. lol

Lindsy’s info in the vid about Timmy hanging out at bars.And then telling Chelsea he’s coming to bed when a movie is over,she wakes up and he’s gone.Interesting lifestyle.

So Chelsea saying JO took the van the night of HaLeigh’s disappearance,in reality could be anyone after she went to sleep.She said they were woke up at 4am,but went back to sleep,but later realized it was important.But still didn’t go over there till later that morning after going to the hospital to pick Lisa up.Makes me wonder,why didn’t they leave right then at Misty’s call,that they didn’t deem as important when a child is missing at 4am and police are looking for her.Was the van there at that time,and if it wasn’t,who actually had it?

yea,like mine Mary,I swear hunny,my memory fades in seconds most day but hey,I meet new friends ever day! lol

but ty Mary,i do tho cause shoot i forget the older info,heck i forget todays info but ya know,need a refresher!
But AH made her remove MY article,rofl sheeeeeeeesh

i guess thats when chelsea missed timmy,rofl

Where is the video of Lyndsey saying that about Timmy?
In the article CathyJo brought over from AH.com earlier there is a complaint from Ronald after the ratgate and fight against Timmy for calling him on the phone from Mass and calling Ronald a faggot A** B**ch, it says Ronald made this complaint against Timmy because he felt threatened.

WhyLie said,
in May 29th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

I am not holding my breath on Lindsy learning anything, after all after this visit she still was there in court for him.

If she wants to do by right by her children she would divorce Tommy, get full custody, and change all of their names to anything besides Croslin.
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exactly and standing next to his atty when he did a presser. Both of them are too stupid for words if they believe Tommy is getting out in less than 3 years. Did they all forget the other drug charges, the grand theft and other burglary charges he has pending?

I wonder if Tommy got wind of all those pictures of her with her new man?

somebody told him Vaq!!!!!!

Little Bear said,
in May 29th, 2010 at 9:44 pm

Sorry, had to step away. Looking at AH for the boot thing. No luck so far. Still looking. When I google it I can see it is in there somewhere, but I haven’t found it yet. Thanks for looking!!!
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the boots thing came from an earlier Tommy/Lindsy tape and I have no idea which one it was.

CathyJo which article? I must have missed it.

CathyJo63 said, in May 29th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

but ty Mary,i do tho cause shoot i forget the older info,heck i forget todays info but ya know,need a refresher!
But AH made her remove MY article,rofl sheeeeeeeesh
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So you can’t cut and paste articles if he writes them? Is there some legal reason for that? I’ve seen most of BNN articles posted on Scared Monkeys, didn’t know it was a sin…..

LFJ, Yes it was much to cold, I believe, for there to have been any kind of feeding frenzy of gators. I do believe, however, that the Harbor is where Tommy dumped the deer carcass and may have weighted that down so it wouldn’t float and him get popped for hunting out of season or something.

What does have me concerned though is that inside every lie is a bit of truth. To

“Holiday Weekend said,in May 29th, 2010 at 2:23 pm Remember when Hank Sr was visiting Misty & he said he’d give anything to give Misty a backrub? WTF? Yep, I’ve always believed there was some type of molestation/incest going on.

Exhibit A: Tommy Croslins ears. Blood must run together somewhere in the lines.
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Ouch!! Sooooo not cooooolll. I ain’t neva did nuttin’ 2 nobody so why yer fingers got beef wit me? u knowed i’mma cutey and i sho ‘ppreciate it if u could help a cute set o’ thangs like me finda way to hop off this dumb ass dome i gotta sit on day in and day out. constantly got lindsay voice ringin’ in me and drivin’ ma owner crazier than a bed bug. Come on’, do yer daily good deed and help a cute set o’ flappers like me. I’m helpless here. 🙁

Yes it does WhyLie. I just cannot imagine It!! What a horrible thing to do to a child.

looking for Justice
It was on skynews,just listened to it,freaked me out.I guess the best way LE gets info from them is to tick them off.LOL

WinterRose do you have the link to that site? Greatky would appreciate it.

WhyLIe That is what concerns me with this last search. LE was asking about a grey van being seen there in that area right before the search.

hm wonder if guys get jealous when women have hair…hmmmmmmm

CathyJo I still kind of bad , because I asked you to retrieve it. Sorry about that. If I had known I would not have asked you to do it.

Thank you WinterRose.

brb somebody hit a tree

CathyJo was it Tiger Woods?LOL!!!!

rofl!!!!! Oh ok,now i see the golfclub!

Lindsy waited all this time to tell Tom she is jealous of his relationship with his sister?

jealous of family,well lemme tell ya,the only way that could cross my mind is if i were guilty of something with a bro?? why else would that even enter your mind? …..jmo

people don’t just accuse you of family,my God!

no more cheap shots from me about him,Ive had good people talk about me?

Emotional incest: having Austin tag-a-long on jail visits to be burdened with the problems he hears in adult conversation between his parents.

What’s 5-yr old Austin to think? Mommy hates Daddy/Mommy loves Daddy. Which is it?

lol i remembered cobra said they stole kids in the family plenty!

CathyJo @ 10:15, or – “I’ve had better people say worse things about me!” LOL!

MG was hardly the mother of the year. She was shacking up with Crystal’s uncle, dealing/doing drugs. Got popped. He went to jail, MG got probation.

Technically Crystal’s little sister is her cousin. All of these families have serious problems and not a one has room to point fingers at another for anything.

her fiancee was her step bro,
wasn’t crystal and ron cuz’??

she wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped her!

hell,rent em a room for gods sake!

CJ, Ron and Crystal are close in age. I think just over a year difference. MG didn’t care as long as Crystal was not home bothering her lifestyle.

righttttttttttttt,oh i thought she was 3 yrs younger but i dunno why i think its worse,cause it aint then but its baddddd!
just to get her outta her hair,i agreeeeeee! ty for correcting me,

WhyLie,Crystal and Ron are 2 and 1/2 years apart. That is not a big gap as he and Mistys.
Treece had posted their birthdays here a couple of months back.

Maybe Timmy and Chelsea COULDN’T go over to the MH at 4:00 a.m. because the van wasn’t there to go in?… Maybe Joe and/or Timmy were out in the van?…
Just a thought.

Toughcookie, I agree with your post.

tobie,i duuno,but imo jo wasn’t involved! jmo,lol

LillyValley,I love that hymn,one of my favs!

wait…*cj* ~ could you explain that again ? not sure i understand your meaning ? 🙂

sure gimme 1 sec,lol

I am not sure if it was T N’s. van or not. I am curious why they were inquiring about it. I wonder if they thought someone was out there either trying to remove evidence or plant evidence.

i see what you mean now tho,its nothing like the 1st time i trieddddddd to explain it,lol

Lindsy is comfortable with her 5-yr old son sitting right beside her as she curses, accuses Tom’s family of incest, etc.

No reason to believe she would censor his viewing of videos posted here and elsewhere on the web, because she doesn’t even censor her conversations with Tom when Austin is sitting right beside her.

Austin probably hears Lindsy talk about her adult problems on the ride to/from the jail, and at home.

not sure i think its ever a good idea to bring a child to visit someone in jail (especially a parent). there may be an argument that they should be “allowed” to see that parent, despite the fact that they are locked up…but i think in reality, its far worse for them to see daddy in jail, and to be perceiving it as “the norm”. better, unfortunately, to perhaps tell a small child daddy is away, daddy is working somewhere else, or something to that effect, then to expose them to daddy in jail and experience that as a “regular” thing.

before anybody hollars at me (lol…) for advocating deceiving one’s children…i’m not saying that’s ok either, but in the case of young, impressionable kids, who one hopes to give “a better life” to, i think telling a little white lie, until they’re old enough to handle the truth, and NOT taking them to visit is by far the better road.

jmo

once all the screaming and all has calmed down,he’s sitting in a prison more stable..if thats even possible….. sure!
but angers are raging right now,the kids are hearing way to much….imo

When LE did the River search it was said they were questioning neighboring people about a grey Van. If I recall correctly. I was looking at the Van behind RC and TN when he was crying it appeared beige. That’s all I’m sayin.

maryd, You are correct it was a grey chevy van they were asking about. I wonder if they( LE) know who owns this van?

Austin is only 5, he is kindergarden age – exposed to conversations that we adults find disturbing.

Lindsy takes him to the jail for what purpose? In all the tapes we’ve viewed, Austin has only gotten on the phone to say a few words to Tom.

Lindsy takes him to the jail to listen to her converse with Tom. Her words are confusing and disturbing to us; how much more so to her 5 yr old son?

Maybe lindsy is the smartest one in the Croslin family. But she’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Tommeme keeps wanting her to bring Austin to see him in jail WHY? The child has very little communciation with his so called DAD when he’s there. He’s a 5 yr. old child for God’s sake that’s a long time to expect him to SIT still. Plus he can hear their dysfunctional conversations. This will not change if Tommeme goes to prison he’ll just use the children to get Lindsy to visit him. She just might be DUMB enough to do it.

Well, unless proven different, I’m still holding to my “theory”. After Haleigh got home from school (whoever picked her up at the bus stop), Ron and Misty were having a big blowout fight about Misty’s 3 day party binge, Ron’s all up in her face about her sleeping with WBG and leaving him to have to take care of his own children for the weekend (the nerve of her, doesn’t she know her place is to take care of his children by other women and cater to his every need?) and Haleigh gets in his way begging him to stop, Ron shoves/hits her out of the way and she is injured. Ron’s goes to work and leaves Misty with an injured (maybe concussion) child. His multiple calls were to check on the “situation” because you know there is no way he is going to let Haleigh be taked to an ER because he already has trouble with the Department of Children Services. Misty is complaining that she can’t get Haleigh to settle down and stop crying, Ron tells her to give Haleigh part of an Oxy. On top of Haleigh already being injured, the Oxy knocked her out and she died. Then Misty starts all the calls to Ron, “what do I do?”. Ron calls his mom, Teresa. Teresa comes over and tells Misty to get rid of the body, can’t have her darling baby Ron get in any trouble and comes up with the “we will report her as “stole” after Ron gets home. Misty calls Timmy (big brother that she lived with at times – Chelsea is a “mother” figure to her). Chelsea answers because Timmy is out from the drugs he took from his injuries from the accident he and Hank were in. Chelsea wakes Timmy but he can’t drive, Joe and Timmy go to help, decide to pick up Tommy on the way. Tommy very much does whatever Timmy wants him to do and basically walks in Timmy’s footprints. Timmy, Tommy and Joe take care of disposing of the body while Teresa and Misty clean the trailer and get rid of/hide/move all the drugs, and Teresa drills the “story” into Misty’s head. Ron makes sure he is caught on several cameras on the way home from “werk” establishing his “alibi”. Teresa heads down the road to wait for the “call” after Ron/Misty has placed the 911 call. Now I don’t think Timmy/Tommy/Chelsea would cover for either Ron or Misty but they would cover for Timmy in any involvement. Misty would cover for Ron at first but I think now she is covering for Timmy’s involvement.

Hey that’s my theory and I’m sticking to it.

Looking4Justice,

There has to be some really incriminating or relevant information regarding this grey Van for LE to put such emphasis on it. Wish there was a site to check on for who owns specific cars in an area…but than again that’s kind of personal.

did the link post?? you’ll have to put it together otherwise it wont work?

Anybody know if this is link #2 from the first set of new audio? Thanks!

brb

At 5, Austin should be shielded from his parents nonsense.

Where’s his maternal grandparents, aunts/uncles on his mother’s side? If they have more sense than the paternal side of Austin’s family, then why haven’t they lectured Lindsy to better parent her young children by shielding them from the burden of Tom and Lindsy’s problems?

Lindsy’s conversations with Tom would be difficult for Austin at age 15 or 25, let alone age 5!

I wonder what the tides were for the St. Johns river for Feb 9th & 10th , 2009? They could of buried Haleigh by the dock where the dogs first lead the police to that morning and by then the tide had come up to cover up any digging near the bank of the river. I tried to google the 2009 tide chart for the St John’s River , but found nothing.

agree with you *jason*

Tobias and HollysGmom had posted them a few months back, but I do not remember what they were. Whenever you see Tobias on you can ask her maybe she saved that info.

Good theory LS, but now that Linsey commented about incestuous family, I’m kind of thinking she may have heard something about that in one of their confessions, maybe. Than I think about Misty saying her and Tommy were on the couch and he quickly shuts her up. I can’t help but find it odd to that Jr. mentions the couch going up and down. There seems to be a theme going on here in my mind at least and not a pretty one.

Ladiesadie,

Nice work. Very good theory to think about.

Thanks, Judithann (:

Judithann @ 10:51, you’re right – there are no diversions in the room for Austin. NO toys to play with, coloring books, or children’s books to read.

Goodnight everyone. God Bless you all and sweet dreams.

Goodnite, LFJ; hope you sleep well . . .

LOL, Toughcookie (so, stop saying it, I’m thinking!).

He wouldn’t change a negative behavior that was important to you that he change; you gave him the opportunity to, though.

Most important, you were aware of his negative impacton on your daughter, and you worked to shield her from it.

I feel Austin needs to be better potected.

*thanks jason*…he was an abuser, so i got away with my life and my kids…thank god…and doing that gave them a chance to grow up the way they did. not one of them has ever exibited signs of his behavior. i feel proud that i broke the cycle. i posted here today about my hope that lindsy can now take her chance and run with it. i hope she can make some good decisions for herself and her kids, and give them a chance for a better life. its hard work, and they would do best with counseling…i hope she has a chance for that.

jmo

i don’t think its a good idea for anyone with children to own a pit in the first place. just my opinion, and i know not everyone agrees with me. once i lived in an apt. and my next door neighbors had a pit, in a STUDIO apt. with a NEWBORN baby…omg…that used to terrify me when i thought of how easily that little boy could’ve been hurt by that dog, in that close quarters.

eventually they had to get rid of it as it was showing signs of extreme agression.

i just don’t think pit bulls and kids are an acceptable risk…

jmo

Toughcookie@11:10 This is probably norm for this child.It’s all he’s ever known. When my grandaughter came to live with me because of her parents were involved with alcohol/drugs she thought their life style was normal. Slowly she has discovered there is no future in their lifestyle. Thank God

*jason* & *judithan* ~ i agree ! that’s the sad thing, is these poor babies grown up thinking that way of life is “normal”, and as adults, unless they have counseling, or some other form of education on the subject, they simply don’t know any better then to unconsciously seek the same for themselves…because that’s what feels “comfortable” and “right”…that’s how the generational thing happens so easily…
terribly sad. i hope those kids somehow have a chance for something better.

jmo

judithan said,in May 29th, 2010 at 11:30 pm In Ky. they do body checks of a child before they can visit a parent and I feel it’s the same process in most states. That’s humiliating for a child and I doubt they will ever forget the experience.
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Oh. My. God. That’s why the (most) cops and (most) corrections officers are ‘Thugs.’

Jason@11:47 I know for a fact they never forget. Been there done that with my grandaughter because she wanted to see her parents. But maybe I got lucked into a miracle because she wants nothing to do with substance abusers. I hope so. I have personally seen what so called parents put their children through and it ain’t pretty. and they never seem to take responsibility for their actions it’s always someone elses fault. It’s not about the parents anymore, they’ve had their chance. It’s about saving their children.

heyitsmekelly said,in May 29th, 2010 at 10:58 pm I wonder what the tides were for the St. Johns river for Feb 9th & 10th , 2009? They could of buried Haleigh by the dock where the dogs first lead the police to that morning and by then the tide had come up to cover up any digging near the bank of the river. I tried to google the 2009 tide chart for the St John’s River , but found nothing.
………………..
oceans have tides..rivers flow.
snow melt and such dictates flow level.

i had questioned this the other day, and wonder if anyone else thinks its strange…

if haleigh’s case has been deemed a “homocide” investigation by LE, (and we know it has), why i wonder, is she still listed on the amber alerts as an “active amber alert” ?

i can’t believe this would simply be an oversight, as LE usually is quick to act at removing the alerts when necessary…

if it is an oversight, its a pretty big one. sure makes me wonder though.

jmo

Judtithan @11:47, yes – protecting their children is most important. Austin needs protected; I hope someone steps in.

wonder where Tobias has been today?

People do bring in contrband to prisons. I’ve seen a poster here admit to bringing in pot. No wonder they have to search people. And in that case leave the child at home. Searching a kid can’t be good for them.

And no pit bulls or any other large around infants and toddlers. Too much risk. I know people that have great dogs who have never even barked at their small children, but it only takes a kid poking a dog in the eye accidentaly or grabbing too hard at the dog and the dog , being an animal, bites.

You have to make sure you arwe present at all times when the dog is loose with the child.

Not all dogs, some are trained very well on how to be around kids, but most are not and you have to be careful. Good dog owners usually are.

hm tough,unless they know different and keeping it under wraps,i dunno!

Did anyone go to look at the attendance
record to see if altered.

awww.good night TexGirl! sorry was surfing too!

Toughcookie, yes – much of their behavior is pure instinct – uncontrollable. OT a little, but a Vet assistant recently sued a family because their tiny Chihuahua bit her face while she was prepping him for dental work.

The family is fighting a local one-bite law which mandates the Chihuahua be destroyed.

wow *jason*…i didn’t even think about the fact that they would hold the “one-bite” law to task even in the case of a dog being handled by a vet. it is a shame that that happened, but i can see how a dog would be inclined to bite when having work done on their mouths, especially…seems like the vet should have used some forethought and given the dog a mild sedative or something.

imo

judithan said,in May 30th, 2010 at 12:11 am Thugcops, Maybe you’re not aware of how many parents use children to smuggle contraband into prisons. It HAPPENS!
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That’s an ugly, terrible possibility. I think it would be less harmful to the child to submit him/her to x-rays at every visit(no matter how often) than to invade his/her orifices with searching adult hands.

wow Tough, i would say its a possible thats the reason!

Toughcookie, there’s public outrage at the Vet and the assistant, and support for the family in their fight to keep the dog from being destroyed.

People aren’t happy that the Vet has come out in support of his employee, whom many (me included) feel it was her responsibility to take precautions when prepping the small dog.

I think it can be expected Vet techinicians might be bit from time to time. I side with the dog and his family, not the Vet and his employee.

WhyLie, I don’t see how MG could have gotten probation, she is a school bus driver and you have to go through a FBI background check to work in any capacity for a school. If she had any felony conviction, even pleading nolo contendere, or a DUI she would have never gotten a job as a bus driver.

Thugs,

I agree. Leave the children out of it. But we have folks sneaking in drugs and other stuff for their incarcerated friends or family and it has to be stopped. Hell, guards and other prison staff sneak things in as well.

If you can’t keep from breaking a law during a visit with an inmate, it tells me a lot about you and none of its good. They have lost there freedom for a good reason and joints should be kept out of the joint. 🙂

she was charged for selling marijuana in a bar when she was the bartender too!
She’d been charged for dealing drugs !!

lmao *jaba* “joints kept out of the joint” !!!
😀

uh oh my stalkers back..
I’m off to watch ‘the human centipede’..
I’ll report back with a review.

lol *cathyjo* ~ i’ve never bashed anybody on here for anything…much less having a change of mind or heart… 😉

lol no i mean like if somebody thought i was referring to a pitbull comment,and i said i hatem’ then tomorrow i’d be like well it aint the dogs fault,be good to him…..then i’d get bashed,rofl

Somebody needs a diaper change. 🙂

Wait, that may be me….sniff, sniff…nope, not me. 🙂

(((cathyjo))) 🙂

(((((((((Tough)))))))) lol ty…….I Hate you!!!!!!

Cricket said,
in May 30th, 2010 at 12:16 am

Did anyone go to look at the attendance
record to see if altered.
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If it was altered it had to be done by Kim Picazio or whomever got the attendance record from the school since she’s the one that gave to to AH to begin with.

maryd. said,in May 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm I don’t know Linsey but I imagine she fell in love with Tommy for some reason. Who know’s maybe her family didn’t use the words “I love you”, often and it was music to her ears in that family. What she may not have realized is that they are just that words. I think she somehow stood by him through all his antics, and put some bated trust in him. She may be an enabler and doesn’t realize it. She now realizes his actions have destroyed their lives, their future and possibly the life of an innocent child. Who wouldn’t be fed up. Maybe the dog is a bad family choice. I sure wouldn’t pick a pit bull with small kids in the house. One of my fifty million theories was that maybe his dog got a hold of Haleigh that night and attacked her. We don’t know all of the variables here. So, I am trying to be unbiased. This is just MO…and who knows if it will even remain here. lol

*CathyJo63 said,in May 29th, 2010 at 9:30 pm yea in tommys side mary,they all say it!
but i’d rather have it proven than said,anybody can say it! as a matter of fact,i’ll prolly never say it to anybody again! They’ve made me hate it!
I might just say,I hate you to ppl and maybe they’ll think i lovem anway,lol

CathyJo63 said,in May 29th, 2010 at 9:31 pm atleast put an effort into it,rofl
********tough,sorry was saying that b/c of this conversation,I don’t really hateya! lol

exactly my impression too Tough!!!!!!!!

yes, *cathyjo*, i know about the “ihateyou” thing cuz i was here when you said it…no worries, i never thought you meant you hated me…you were making a funny ! 😉

i thought her body language just screamed ” i am so DONE with you!” and still tommy kept saying he didn’t understand…i think he had to have understood, just by the look on his face, but just couldn’t or wouldn’t want to believe it.

imo

omg…*kelly*…that’s some nic you put up there ! lol

kelly??

i meant *heyitsmekelly*…just trying to type fast. ha.

right *cathyjo*, its almost as though tommy couldn’t believe that he couldn’t “talk her out of it”. that’s the impression i got anyway.

jmo

I was disgusted at this latest tape. WHY in the world would Lindsy take Austin out of school early (per her statement) and bring him along to witness their meltdown. Good Lord!! WTf was she thinking?

right,exactly,I swear i thought the same!!!!! lol

pure bone tough,lol

to follow in his daddys footsteps??????
LoL
Stupid!!!!!!!

gary coleman died too……..dennis hopper!!!
Shoot honey,Sam Elliot was always my man,lol

i agree *crocus*…poor, poor judgement, that.

i know *cj*…seems i heard of a few celebrities that passed away this week. (although this guy isn’t REALLY a celebrity…i also heard that brittney murphy’s husband was found dead in the same house that she was found, same bedroom, by her mother, same person who found her, and from the same cause of death…cardiac arrest! however, they did say he had a history of heart problems…eerie, don’t you think ?)

omggggggggggggggggg are you serious????? lord how mercy god!

yes…that’s just so eerie to me. another weird thing, is that brittney murphy’s brother was quoted as saying that “now 3 people have died in that house…”. brittany, her husband, and…???? who else i wonder ??? someone that was a previous owner? supposedly before they bought it, britney spears owned it. that might be bad karma right there.

i saw brittany murphys husbannd on tv not long ago talking about her!

oh that’s terrible about the accident…

i know most people will laugh, but this is really true…i lived in a “haunted” house for 8 yrs! we didn’t know it when we moved in, but 2 tenants before us, there was a murder/suicide right in the bathroom! its a loooong story, but the things that happened there were definitely creepy!

geeeez,I believe it!!!!!!!!!!
honest!!!!!!!!!!!!
reason i said lol tho i thought you meant BS was the bad karma?? because she was so screwed up for awhile,lol sorry but yea i know whatcha mean…..3 ppl? shewwww

I don’t care who laughs,i have had experiences!

you’d think she could afford a maid!

I’m waiting for more info on when Timmy snuck out of the house and Chelsea noticed him and the van gone at 1:30 a.m. This is the same time Timmy claimed that Joe was gone & the van. Timmy was supposed to cook supper that night but came home drunk from the bar instead. Tommy supposedly cooked and cleaned for Lindsey that night but stayed off drugs that day. Sounds fishy to me.

well that’s interesting about your experiences…we should talk sometime, i have alot of experiences with that kind of thing myself! lol…yikes!

I felt like this blog was haunted when my post went poof!!

thanks *viola* for putting us back on topic where we should be…lol 🙂

i didn’t realize that that was the SAME night that timmy came back drunk from the bar…must have missed that info. that’s really interesting, considering chelsea said he was passed out (not exact wording) from the pain meds from the accident…hmmm…

roflmao@mary,now thats funny, me too tho,Ah ran mine off!!!!!!!!!

*judithan* ~ has anyone ever said why it is timmy (and/or chelsea) isn’t working over there in mass. ?

i do know they said he was outta drugs and said he needed some to go to work the next day,but if he cleaned and stuff,maybe thats why the cops took the scouring pads and dawn!

i wondered about that anyway!
It was in his burglarizing evidence they took but i though,gee…..can’t imagine robbing a blind mans home and leaving with the stuff and then stop and say,o wowwwwwwwww dawn?

*maryd* ~ idk if they are working or not…i was just asking that of *judithan* regarding her post, where she stated that they (along with other family members) were receiving state aid.

i know timmy talked to tommy from work once,remember the tapes…he kept calling timmy to dial lindseys#!!!!
and chelsea need 25hundred for that letter……..roll eyes……………to buy a truck,lol

hard to believe they all got hurt so bad in that wreck,shux they prolly beat the hell outta one another and didn’t remember!

doggone if i’d leave him there……

them there,lol

she’s setting herself and the kids up for attack online? jeez

roflmao!!!!!!!!!!!! tough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol mary!

toughcookie@1:50 I think I read Chelsea has family there. I have a daughter that lives in Boston and complains about the welfare benefits in the state. Evidently it’s easier not to work than work in Mass. It’s the state law you must have medical insurance. So I guess if you don’t work you have Medicaid.

from what i know of shelters, they would not be able to keep the kids there for “daycare” or anything like that. usually, they are very strict in that only the people who are approved to live there, can actually be there. for instance, its not like your own home, where you can have regular visitors or anything. so i think babysitting would be out of the question, unless this shelter makes an exception or something.

hate to leave good company but my eyes just crossed over,lol

thanks *judithan*, yes, i remember that chelsea’s family was there in mass.

i didn’t know they had a law requiring health insurance…that’s something i’ve never heard of…that would be really hard here in california, as especially with the economy, there are alot of employers who have cut their health insurance to employees, and state medi-cal is only available to those who are below a certain income here.

goodnight *cj* !

*mememel* ~ i think that would definitely be a reason for misty’s closed mouth about things.

i know from experience that abuse demands silence to be able to exist. usually, people in that mode do it almost unconsciously just because it has always been that way, as well as the fact that its a means of survival.

imo

Well I’m starting to forget how to spell, so maybe it’s bedtime. Goodnite all. Let’s pray for Haleigh and Jr. and all the children.

CathyJo63 said,in May 30th, 2010 at 1:21 am Oh Dear Lord Tough,when she said it had been 62 days for her..ya know.
I thought to myself hell i’d pay him not to touch me for 62 days! lol
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
omg I just did not just read that 😆

good night

This is one strange family. She tells him this is it.. she is done. This broke the back. Then look at how tan I am.. did you get your commissary then I can’t put money on the phone I have to take care of me.

WOW this is so odd.

UGH back again! Forgive me for these posts..
First, thanks to Jan and Simon and TJ and who ever got the discs from St. Johns County Jail.

Here is what I also think..
She says “hope you can afford an atty” he then says that he already has one.. now my thinking is later when he asks where did she get her info from and she doesn’t answer.. that means (to me) that she gets it from his lawyer and that lawyer may quit the case.

She is seemingly abusive to the dog but I think that is lashing out at him. I doubt she is being as mean as she said she was to the dog but she could easily be that self centered.

She is speaking from her heart about the bills. She is now in fear mode. She is jealous of the relationship he and Misty have. She is irate over the LDT and has every right to be. She is quite disconnected at this point. She doesn’t really pay any attention to most of what he is saying and she doesn’t seem to want to look at him.
I did laugh at the free elec part. She has a valid point. I noticed while working at the prison that these people seem so young and it is because all they do is work out and walk the track and sleep. No bills nothing. Sure there are inmate jobs but they are not real jobs.
I really need coffee. I will stop typing now.

Good theory LadySadie-
IMHO Ron left those children with an VERY angry not to mention “strung out” Misty. It’s been said many times that Haleigh was Ron’s little girl, so I truly believe with Misty’s mentality she was jealous of Haleigh(thats why Jr wasn’t “stole”). Ron forced her to babysit & she took it out on Ron’s “little girl”!

IMHO Misty is far from innocent, she won’t talk because she’s covering for herself & her brothers. The reason she keeps stressing visits with Tommy is in hopes they can get their story straight (she’s too dumb to figure out IF they allowed those visits, they would be watched very closely).

LadySadie said,in May 29th, 2010 at 10:52 pm Well, unless proven different, I’m still holding to my “theory”. After Haleigh got home from school (whoever picked her up at the bus stop), Ron and Misty were having a big blowout fight about Misty’s 3 day party binge, Ron’s all up in her face about her sleeping with WBG and leaving him to have to take care of his own children for the weekend (the nerve of her, doesn’t she know her place is to take care of his children by other women and cater to his every need?) and Haleigh gets in his way begging him to stop, Ron shoves/hits her out of the way and she is injured. Ron’s goes to work and leaves Misty with an injured (maybe concussion) child. His multiple calls were to check on the “situation” because you know there is no way he is going to let Haleigh be taked to an ER because he already has trouble with the Department of Children Services. Misty is complaining that she can’t get Haleigh to settle down and stop crying, Ron tells her to give Haleigh part of an Oxy. On top of Haleigh already being injured, the Oxy knocked her out and she died. Then Misty starts all the calls to Ron, “what do I do?”. Ron calls his mom, Teresa. Teresa comes over and tells Misty to get rid of the body, can’t have her darling baby Ron get in any trouble and comes up with the “we will report her as “stole” after Ron gets home. Misty calls Timmy (big brother that she lived with at times – Chelsea is a “mother” figure to her). Chelsea answers because Timmy is out from the drugs he took from his injuries from the accident he and Hank were in. Chelsea wakes Timmy but he can’t drive, Joe and Timmy go to help, decide to pick up Tommy on the way. Tommy very much does whatever Timmy wants him to do and basically walks in Timmy’s footprints. Timmy, Tommy and Joe take care of disposing of the body while Teresa and Misty clean the trailer and get rid of/hide/move all the drugs, and Teresa drills the “story” into Misty’s head. Ron makes sure he is caught on several cameras on the way home from “werk” establishing his “alibi”. Teresa heads down the road to wait for the “call” after Ron/Misty has placed the 911 call. Now I don’t think Timmy/Tommy/Chelsea would cover for either Ron or Misty but they would cover for Timmy in any involvement. Misty would cover for Ron at first but I think now she is covering for Timmy’s involvement.

Hey that’s my theory and I’m sticking to it.

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That’s almost exactly what I think what happened to Haleigh except all the people involved in the cover up. The ex-bride has said from the lastest story that it would hurt two other people. I think there is some truth in that statement , but that she’s lying and there are five people involved in the cover up , which is all the people you mentioned in your theory. As I have stated , they had up to 7 to 8 hours to cover up any crime against Haleigh before the 911 call was made. I’m starting to think they drove that van deep into the woods near the river and near an abandoned dock. It gets shallow in parts of the river during low tide to where it’s only an inch of water and maybe goes out a hundred yards or so. It wouldn’t take long for three guys to dig a deep enough hole , in the soft sand , to bury Haleigh.

This is me adding on to LadySadie’s and my theory and I’m sticking to it! I’m glad there is someone who thinks like I do about what happened to Haleigh.

Another kindred spirit…Ron’s classic abuser character is dependent on underaged girls like that of Misty. It helped him fly under the radar from DCF. Although, the custody agreement when granted to him for HaLeigh & Jr., stipulated that Ron’s sister would be the primary babysitter while he was @ work. Go figure…….Where has Ron’s sister been? She’s dropped off the face of the earth.

There are very few facilities that have contact visits for pre-trial detainees @ County jails these days. Hence, no body/cavity searches. Usually just metal detectors or pat down searches until the convicted are housed in prisons where they serve their time. Still, no place for children. Sorry, IMO. Back in the day, children were not allowed. Some things should never change. IMO

I don’t believe Ron knew any details about Misty’s time away from him. I doubt she came home bragging about sexing it up with Greg. I don’t think he found out until after Haleigh went missing. Maybe that is why Misty was staying at her parents and not in the tent.

I don’t think a 16 year old is going to come home and tell the boyfriend about their exploits. I just don’t see it.

I’m sure that Ron knew where, who, and what Misty was doing the whole time. He was hanging with her brothers during this time. Ron had them over with Cousin Joe showing off his guns and drinking beer. Very small town, gossip, gossip. Ron had beat the crap out of her before she took off on her binge, he had to know she would strike out to get back at him.
IMO

Ron was working for his aunt that weekend and going to work at his reg job at night. Doubt there was much beer drinking time.

Misty didn’t look like she had the crap beat out of her when I saw her on videos and interviews and that was only a few days later.

I think there is far more to the story of why Misty left that weekend and it will all come out when all the docs are released.

That is the reason Nay Nay gave to AH for Misty leaving. She said that Misty told her she showed Ron a positive pg test (never heard the sonogram story).

There is also a rumor out there that Misty intercepted messages between Ron and Crystal, got upset, and left.

We will find out in the end which story turns out to be true.

There have been several interesting things to come out in the tapes lately that back up my theory of what happened. 1). When MC tells HC that she had given her key to the trailer back to Ron early that week, 2). TC completely shutting down HC when he tried to relay the rumor of TC and “her” sitting together on the couch that night, 3). LC confirming my feelings that Timmy has a propensity to sneak out late at night too.

VERY interesting stuff on these tapes.

AH may have jeopardized his reputation by jumping on NG’s “bombshell” wagon. I know it’s hard to speak above her @ times but, he should have done a better job with relaying the facts during that broadcast. IMO

Art harris even responded to my comment saying that his readers deserved his “exclusive” and that he’s just reporting what his “reliable sources close to the investigation” where telling him. Then I went off about his so called “reliable sources” and the BS they are giving him. And when he had to appear back on Nancy Dis-Grace , he looked so deflated that he now had to report that it was animal bones they found in the river. Kinda thought that he was thinking of me and the lashing I gave him on his site. Just my honest opinion.

Does anyone think that maybe Misty had Rons phone that night? she said she called and called and he didnt answer and then there he was at the door- does anyone think maybe ron knew someone took his daughter? he didnt want cops to think it was him so he planned his alibi. lindsy said you made us look stupid- maybe she knows too now that someone else took her and before she wasnt sure. that tommys makin up stuff to get out of jail. before she thought he had somethin to do with it so she threw his boots away. now she seems to know somethin different.

I wonder if Haleigh and Jr were with Ron when he kept going over to Diane Prevatt’s house? What else did he do that weekend? Did he talk to WBG or Donnie Spells?

From an article at newspaper Jackonville.com.

The mother said Naynay and Misty were at Diane Prevatt’s residence the Friday before Haleigh vanished. She said Ronald Cummings, Haleigh’s father, came by three times wanting to see Misty, who was asleep.

When he was not allowed inside, he returned with Misty’s clothes and threw them outside, Diane Prevatt said.

tobias, I agree that dog needs to be rehomed and not just taken to a shelter. Crates are great training tools but they should not be used to keep a dog caged up 24/7 and only taken out to go potty.

Tobias I agree with you, they can be very dangerous and who knows if Tommy raised it to be aggressive as some do. It needs to go to a home with no kids and where it can be socialized, and where the owner can afford to pay the bills that accompany being a pet owner.

Thanks, WhyLie. I knew it was not in Putnam county just couldn’t remember where 🙂

Welcome Vaquera. I kept thinking it was Gainesville.

WhyLie said,in May 30th, 2010 at 7:07 am Ron was working for his aunt that weekend and going to work at his reg job at night. Doubt there was much beer drinking time.

Misty didn’t look like she had the crap beat out of her when I saw her on videos and interviews and that was only a few days later.

I think there is far more to the story of why Misty left that weekend and it will all come out when all the docs are released.
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I am not saying anything about the post you posted just wanted to clear one thing,
it doesn’t always have to show,ppl who beat on a spouse beat you where it doesn’t show!
Thats because they’re so cocky!

Trot,Im right here/waves see??
OJ is gonna luv you now,lol but he warned us and i believe Misty is 100% innocent myself!
its as plain as my big nose!
yea i left you a post about that album of yours,I was over there and just loving the pix when a snake chased me off just like that one chased Teresa N.LoL I loved the pix but the second i saw that snake boy i was outta there!
lol you have to know i am the kind of person who it terrifiedddddddd of only 2 kinds of snakes,a dead one and a live one!
ewwwwwwwwww brrrrrrrrrrr shiver’shiver’OMG OMG’
O LORD,get my drift…..lol brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

CJ, I agree it doesn’t always show, but Misty’s own mom had said up until the fight at AS’s house she had never known Ron to be violent.

I think the reason Misty left that weekend had nothing to do with Ron hitting her after she told him she was pregnant. I think Misty caught Ron and Crystal communicating, perhaps making plans to get together and Misty’s was hurt and left. I think that would also explain her saying hurtful things about Ron.

I think people tend to blame Ron for somehow corrupting Misty and blame him for all that is wrong with Misty and that is just not the case. Misty was corrupted by her own family and environment and society long before she ever met Ron.

WhyLie,she’d never known,neither did mine!
imo she left because he did try to make her lose a baby he thought was WBG’S!
Misty was treated like a dog by her family,not corrupted at all but thats jmo………..
Ron is a bery abusive control freak imvho!

And ron was gas on the fire.

look at how hard Misty defended Ron for fighting with her family,at sykes too that day,IMO i believe Misty called them to come get her but if Ron knew that OMG she knew what he’d do!

Following is the report by Deputy Nicole Quintiere:

On August 5th, 2009 I was dispatched to the parking lot of the Welaka Kangaroo in reference to the report of a battery. When I arrived on scene, I met with Hank Croslin Jr and Hank Croslin Sr and also Lisa Croslin. Upon initial assessment of the situation I gathered that Hank Croslin Jr had been battered by Ronald Cummings.

Upon further investigation into the incident, I spoke with Hank Croslin Jr on his own. Hank stated that he, Lisa and Hank Sr had gotten a phone call from Misty who was crying and yelling. He said that Misty asked for them to come to her residence and pick her up because she no longer wanted to be at the residence with Ronald. In an attempt to obtain his sister, he, Lisa and Hank Sr drove to her residence on 4th Avenue. He stated that when he arrived at the residence on 4th Avenue Ronald came out and was acting crazy. He said that Ronald came out and began “swinging on him”. He said that he was hit in the head and neck several times. He said that after they got in their physical altercation, he entered his vehicle in an attempt to drive away and Ronald entered the vehicle on the passenger side and began striking him again. He said that at that time, he drove away and went to the Kangaroo in Welaka to call 911. Hank Jr completed a written statement in reference to the incident. He also signed a charging affidavit against Ronald Cummings for Burglary with Battery. Hank Jr was transported to Putnam Community Medical Center complaining of injury to his neck and head.

After speaking with Hank Jr, I spoke with Lisa Croslin. Lisa stated that she was not sure what Ronald was on but he was not in the right state of mind. She said that up until now she never knew him as being violent. She said that they had received a phone call from her daughter Misty screaming and crying. She said that she was worried about her daughter and went to the residence to check on her. She said that when they arrived on scene Ronald went crazy. She said that when they were in the driveway of the residence Ronald came to the vehicle and hit her son. Lisa completed a written sworn statement in reference to the incident.

It should be noted that Hank Sr was at the scene as well. He stated that he did not wish to complete a written or recorded statement. He said that he did not want his daughter to be mad at him so he did not want to take any action. He did state though that he was at the residence when the fight occurred. He said that Ronald went crazy on his son. He said that they arrived and Ronald came out irate. He said that Ronald hit his son several times and then was forced back into the residence. He stated that after a few more minutes Ronald came back out and initiated another fight. He said that they got into three separate physical altercations before leaving the residence to call 911. No written or recorded statement was provided. He stated that he would be willing to speak in court if a subpoena was issued for him.

After speaking with all three of those subjects, I located Ronald Cummings at 216 4th Avenue. Upon initial contact, I detained Ronald Cummings for my safety and the safety of all others at the scene.It should be noted that Ronald Cummings is usually in possession of some sort of hand gun and it was mentioned that he may have been in possession of it at the current time. Ronald was taken outside of the residence by me and Deputy Nelson. Sgt Cecil Manning stayed in the residence with Misty Croslin and Ronald’s grandmother Annette Sykes. Ronald was asked to explain what happened with Hank Croslin Jr. He stated to me that he did not wish to speak that it was his right to remain silent. At that time, I asked Deputy Nelson to stay with Ronald while I spoke with Misty and Annette.

Upon speaking with Misty she stated that she had talked to her brother on the telephone. She said that she asked him why he had been calling her residence all day. She said that he asked her if he could come over and she said no because it was too late. She said that he then made a big ordeal about not being able to see her and said he was coming over anyway. She said that when he arrived at the residence, he began a verbal altercation with Ronald. She then said that Hank Jr came at Ronald and a physical altercation began. She said that Ronald went into the residence as instructed by his grandmother. When Hank did not leave the residence Ronald came back out and another physical altercation began. Misty said that she was trying to break up the fight and got hit in the face two times by Hank Jr and her dad Hank Sr because she was in the middle of the fight. She said that they fought for a little while longer and then her brother and mom and dad left. Misty completed a sworn written statement in reference to the incident.

After speaking with Misty I spoke with Ronald’s grandmother Annette Sykes. Annette stated that she was in bed and heard a racket outside of her house. She said she got up and opened the door. She said she saw a group of people outside in her front yard. She said she saw three men in a crowd screaming and yelling. She realized that the men were Ronald Cummings, Hank Croslin Jr and Hank Croslin Sr. She said that they were fighting and Misty and her mother were trying to get them to stop. Misty told them to leave the residence. She said that she attempted to break up the fight and told Ronald to go into the residence and everyone else to leave.She said that she separated Ronald and Hank Jr and sent Ronald in the house. She said she pushed Hank Jr, Sr and Lisa into their van and told them to leave. She said that Hank Jr continued to yell at Ronald. She said that Ronald came back out and they went to fighting again. She said that Hank Jr was in the van and Ronald reached in again after him to continue the altercation. She said that again she sent Ronald into the residence and slammed the van door shut so that Hank, Hank and Lisa would leave. She said that Hank Jr was going to the handy way to call the sheriffs office. Annette completed a sworn written statement in reference to the incident.

It should be noted that Ronald Cummings made it very clear at the scene that he had a right to remain silent and did not wish to speak about the incident without a lawyer. Ronald was placed in the rear seating area of my patrol vehicle. He was advised that he was being charged with Burglary with battery. Ronald was transported to the jail without incident. When we arrived at the jail he advised that he wished to “fill out a statement just like everyone else did against him”. He stated also that he wanted to sign charging affidavits in reference to battery against Hank Croslin Jr and Hank Croslin Sr.

In Ronald’s statement he stated that three people Hank Croslin Jr, Sr and Lisa Croslin showed up at his grandma’s house after they were told not to come there by his wife Misty Cummings. He said that Hank Jr and Sr got out of the van and approached in an “aggressive” manner. He said that he asked Hank Jr to get out of his face and he then came closer. He thought he was going to hit him so he pushed him out of the way. He said that Hank Jr then hit him after Ronald pushed him and the physical altercation began. He said that Hank Sr then entered the fight and held him while Hank Jr hit him. Ronald completed a sworn written statement in reference to the incident and also signed charging affidavits against Hank Croslin Jr and Sr for battery.

Ronald was booked without incident on the charge of Burglary with Battery. His bond is set at $12,504.00. Photographs were taken of Ronald Cummings and Hank Croslin Jr’s injuries. The photographs have been uploaded onto the PCSO website for further review. At this time, the charging affidavits against Hank Croslin Jr and Sr will be forwarded to the State Attorney’s Office for further review. Any further reports or supplements will be completed and submitted in a timely manner.

If Misty is protecting anyone… it’s either herself or Ron. When she told her dad to “get me out first” proved to me she had no feelings for others. IMO

who knows,maybe she wanted to get outta state somewhere afraid ron was gonna get out!
i’m just sayin,we dunno how her mind was thinking! but i agree,shes protecting Ron because she’s terrified of him!

IMO the only people Misty would protect are herself and Timmy/Chelsea.

i dunno but the cops didn’t question it,she mmay have called someone else to tell them?? a neighbor? who knows!

she wouldn’t protect them,misty doesn’t really feel love,imo…………..for family anway but she was and is and will always be terrified of Ron!

During the police intervention hank doesn’t want to help police( no written or recorded staement- he refuse) because misty would be mad at him. Unbelievable.

She calls for help, they come, there is a fight or two and hank can’t see this is not a good situation for her and not try and help police about an incident that happened under his nose? Unbelievable.

misty even said she was hit twice during the altercation.

Yes I do beleive she’s terrified of Ron and I still think she loves him. Even tho her eyes are opening now. She’s is smellin the coffee.

yes Okie……….you are 100 % exact in my opinion!

Thinking your right about her not being taught to love others….CJ63. People always gave into her and her whole family tried to protect her. But like most teens…she knew it all! I have been there and done that myself. But a child didn’t go missing in my care.

I just can’t stand Tommy! Anything that does not go his way is “”” BULLSH*T”””!!
He is such a liar and his wife is just as bad as she has put up with him all these years and wasn’t he in jail three times b4 this and promised the same thing he is now probably!
She enables him and enjoys it it seems!

TomME is a piece of crap imo

She’s protecting Ron. I may have to eat crow but that. that’s my gut feeling. If Ron had nothing to do with Haleigh disapperance but thinking he knows something.
That 35,000 he wanted to get so he could have her back just eats away at me.

Cj,

Well then you man up and ‘take’ her. She was still underage then, right? Even if she was 18, its her dad. He should have done more to protect her, but I guess that goes without saying looking at how she lived.

Tommy at least threw hands with ronbo.

she’s terrified of ron,sure even on camera you could tell he was walking around parading her in his arms and all,Misty is a child and thats the problem with abusive men,they will terrify you but they can also pull you right back in with a rose,a hug,a gift………..thats cause they know you as well as you do them but a moment of feeling like they love you is just enough to cover how they just terrified you,your self esteem is so low and its bad,believe me!

Tommy is a hustler and a scrapper! Also a thief. But a muderer…my jury is still out on that! We need some more ividence to be released.

Jaba,this man tried to burn my daughters eyes out,stab her with a screwdriver,run over her with the car while she was holding my grandson..her dad flew down there when a neighbor called us at 2am to say he was chasing her and she had to run upon that womans porch….k i called the cops,they came,took a stmt……he was charged,he evennnn went to jail for the 1st time ever thru it,next morning he’s out but told not to contact her at all,he called from a paypohone n the jail and said she’s a dead bitch……….she reported it,we went to court 2 weeks later,Ota was with us at home but said she didn’t feel like going,so her dad and i went to the courthouse to see what happened in court………guess what,5 minutes later our daughter walks in with him in front of us and dropped the charges?

CathyJo63 said,in May 30th, 2010 at 2:07 pm and so should I have????????

Sorry should have what? Stay in a abusive relationship? never! But I hear what your saying about the abuse and “under their spell”.

i’ll share sommin with ya,lemme get the link,believe me you’ll see different hopefully,cause its my victims witness statement i read to the judge the day he was finallllllllllllly sentenced 2 yrs later!

Someone yesterday was remarking upon the LP appearances on NG and the noise in the background. It is a Macaw parrot

WhyLie said, in May 30th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
IMO the only people Misty would protect are herself and Timmy/Chelsea.
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A so agree, altho I add Tommy to the mix.

thats all i want guys,im not trying to briing yall to any sideeeeeeeee
I just want ya to know it sounds easyyyyyyyy to do but omgggggggggggg its the hardest thing ever to go thru!!!!!!!!!because these men have your family,lemme get a link,you’ll see what i mean!

Well, I’m sorry your daughter stayed and sided with him against her best interests.

This is the croslin story and I should realize that they are not normal and didn’t have the skills to help.

If misty didn’t want help, there isn’t anything they can do but try. And I don’t see them as trying. That’s all.

I know what I would have tried to do, other than that, that’s all I can say.

If I was worried about a death threat I’d involve the police and carry and conceal a weapon legally and protect my family and if I have to. Shoot a som bitch, I will and let the courts figure out if I was wrong. My offspring would be safe, the offender would be dead and wed go from there.

At some point, perhaps various points, in life you have to decide what type of man you are going to be. Is it protect at all costs or shy of that. Shy of that is where this case wound up, imo.

I know what i always said I’d try to do too Jaba but when you’re in that situation believe me,its a nighterror!

I coulda shot somebody but guess what? My daughter and grandson would be without somebody to look out for them too!

In my state we have the castle doctrine which states if you have fear a threat to you or your property, you can use deadly force without indictment.

I wish every state had that.

I would have taken misty home and waited for ronbo to walk up the front walk and start shit then , with great regret, but it has to be done, end his life right there.

Easy to say, I know, but your family is the most important gift you get in life and a scumbag like ronnie damn sure aint taking that away when push comes to shove.

I fully realize domestic situations like this are tough and seeing the light at the end of the tunnel is difficult, but I think there could have been a better way to deal than they did. Imo

Jaba ,
do you live in Texas ?

This was a 4 month relationship, more could have been done by her parents.imo

Sorry things didn’t go well for you and your family. Not knowing all the facts, nor wanting to be up in your business, I’ll leave it at that and be thankful things are good for you now. 🙂

http://blinkoncrime.com/category/haleigh-cummings/teresa-neves/

I agree,they sure could have,If Ota had been a minor,he’da left our lives longggggggggggggggg before that happened!

ty Jaba,but if i didn’t wanna share it i wouldn’t,theres a reason i do,awareness!!!!!!

Cricket,

Proudly so! 🙂

and from experience I share the why’s??

I know a scred woman or girl when i see her! jmo

i dont see toc as bad as people are trying to make him be.i think hes put to much into trying to help his sister on many occasions.he started out with joe didnt do thats bs i want lie for misty this time what does he do he turns around and tells what mistys going with.but in the same conversation he says i think shes covering for her old man.when misty gets in trouble she comes out swinging at tommy to take away from herself just like two young kids.ive never heard lc and she does talk alot say all youve every done is beat on me not one time.i think tc likes to protect.he also helped cobra out of sinking swamp land.i no he tried to protect his drug habit by stealing etc.you have to remember if a women is abused shell tell it.has lc said it i havent heard it yet.imo

Jaba
The reason mt mind went to Texas is because I
heard on the news about some collage kids playing around it got of hand he ran to some
ones back door the old guy shot him and killed
him.He never spent a day in Jail.

I was wondering if anyone knows if Tommy made promises that he would “be good” after he was let out of jail the previous times and why on earth his wife even believe him now?

I just can’t understand that at all. Wasn’t he in jail twice before in the last year or so?

Tommy is voilent

Case Information
Case Style: LINDSY KATE COLLINS v. HANK THOMAS CROSLIN JR
Case Number: 2004 13193 FMDL Category: Domestic Violence
Case Type: Family Law Filing Date: 12/31/2004
Case Status: Closed Related Cases: NO

Venue Information – 04 – Randell H. Rowe, III
Processing Location: DeLand Court Location: DeLand

Disposition Information – Dismissed After Hearing
Disposition Date: 01/11/2005 Jury Trial: NO
Appealed: NO Contested: NO
UCN: 642004DR013193XXXXDL

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Date Number File Type Details
02/17/2005 16.000 MAIL RETURNED FROM Comments:

Lindsey Kate Collins, unable to forward, OREI

01/12/2005 15.000 RETURNED ORDER / NOTICE SERVED Comments:

as to Hank Thomas Croslin, Jr served 1/9/05 w/order extending

01/11/2005 14.000 ORDER OF/FOR DISMISSAL Comments:

*rec 1 pg

Official Record:

* Instrument: 2005007724 Book: 5472 Page: 2303

01/11/2005 13.000 HEARING SHEET Comments:

1/11/05 No show by either party, case dismissed

01/04/2005 12.000 COPY OF LETTER Comments:

to Flagler County Sheriff re: SOP of Order Ext

01/04/2005 11.000 ORDER EXTENDING INJ. FOR PROTECTION Comments:

until hearing 1/11/2005 @ 9AM

01/04/2005 10.000 COPY OF DRIVER’S LICENSE Comments:

as to Lindsy Kate Collins

12/31/2004 9.000 CONFIDENTIAL ADDRESS FORM Comments:

as to Lindsy Kate Collins

12/31/2004 8.000 NOTICE OF FILING SOCIAL SEC NUMBER Comments:

Lindsey Kate Collins

12/31/2004 7.000 RECEIPT FOR TEMPORARY INJUNCTION Comments:

Lindsey Kate Collins

12/31/2004 6.000 TEMPORARY INJUNCTION AND NOTICE OF HEARING Comments:

effective 1/4/2005

12/31/2004 5.000 COPY OF DRIVER’S LICENSE Comments:

Lindsey Kate Collins

12/31/2004 4.000 FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT Comments:

Lindsey Kate Collins

12/31/2004 3.000 AFFIDAVIT / APPLICATION OF CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION
12/31/2004 2.000 PETITION FOR INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION
12/31/2004 1.000 ADVICE TO PETITIONER

thats why he was saying,whats up with you,why u acting like a jerk,go home then,hes used to doing the pushing and controlling,but shoes on the other foot now,she has him in a headlock and he knows it!

because it always worked at home?

here tooooooooo Cricket!

Has nothing to do with it but just so ya know and i am fair,after Dakota was born He changed drastically,,,,,,,,,,,,alot of that stopped!!!!!! why i say my last 3 yrs were the best i ever had being married to him!

Does anyone no how to find out if
Misty Croslin had five warrents out
for her before the drug bust ?

huh? i’ll look cricket!

i can’t find anything,but that article about her past but i heard she’d never been in trouble with the law till this!

Thanks for the info vaquera.

hmmmm,i dunno!

if misty had warrants she would have been arrested at the road rage incident I would figure..are you asking if some of the 8 charges were filed first? or ru speaking of other different charges? Her records have been pretty much scoured and I haven’t seen anything like that. How to find out exactly I’m not sure.
But I thought all 8 were filed at once.

http: //jacksonville. com/news/metro/crime/2010-02-18/story/two_new_charges_added_to_misty_croslin_in_court

thats what i am saying Oj,more added when she went to court,remember??

trotlinedesigns has a good head on his shoulders..a welcome addition to the board

I like him but i can live without his pix,lol
brrrrrrrrrrrr

I just went back to find out about the warrants
They were making it sound like she had them
before the bust, when it was for drug bust warrants.

When I read that article it says an UC bought pills and then offered to sell.

Question: is there proof that another uc supplied the pills this other uc bought and then offered to sell?

If not, then that’s tells me the case is tighter and less apt to see a entrapment defense.

But, if misty ‘sold’ this uc pills, or ron or hope or tommy, did LE get the original seller who was not LE?

Anyone have proof of any of this that diagrams the dealing?

Look bad or not, thankfully we have a system of justice where facts can be presented and a jury of 12 can decide if there was impropriety from LE.

Didn’t someone say on a jail tape while talking to misty that they, the person speaking to her, was sorry about getting her other charges? The 7th or 8th ones. Anyone remember that?

wrong facts too Jaba,thats the thing!
What looks like facts arent always facts!

1,3900 for 5 people thats just takes
cake .

they tell you they’re so sorry and it’ll never happen again and you’re self esteem tank is empty anyway so you believe it!

especially in court of law!

Just one ,

Agreed. The abused are in no position sometimes to do anything but absorb the punishment. What an awful way to live. I feel bad for anyone who can’t ‘get out’.

I think that’s when I look at friends or family and how they can help. Its not easy, no question, but I think, in some cases, the family or friends don’t take the right approach to a solution to help. There is a ton of help for those that can get to it. Getting there is 99% of the problem.

Maybe its just me, but I can’t stand folks who get picked on and have no defense to the “picker” and hope that they have a big bad angel to guide them through to the other side. If the ‘picker’ gets his or her ass kicked in the mean time, goodie, goodie.

There are people who can defend themselves, for the ones who can’t, I hope someone steps in to help when they can.

Its a shitty road to follow but there are good hearted tough people out there who relish the opportunity to put these abusers in their place and stop the cycle.

On this Memorial Day it reminds me of soldiers who go off to help the defesneless and are proud to do it. Those are great people, imo.

Too bad we can’t use the armed forces to stop the abusive knuckleheads. Our military don’t play. They end shit. Imo

Justice is fair a lot of the time. Ask victims who have found it.

Not always, not 100%, but its the fairest system in the world, imo.

Can you imagine if they left guilt or innocence up to bloggers with only a cursory knowledge of the facts like we have? :). We would have convicted and pardoned and relased and rearrested a whole host of folks in this one. 🙂

jaba said,in May 30th, 2010 at 4:15 pm Justice is fair a lot of the time. Ask victims who have found it.

Not always, not 100%, but its the fairest system in the world, imo.

Can you imagine if they left guilt or innocence up to bloggers with only a cursory knowledge of the facts like we have? :). We would have convicted and pardoned and relased and rearrested a whole host of folks in this one
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Not if i was,LoL They’d all be in Alcatraz today feeding off one another!Might be the fairest cuz its the only one here! jmo………
Even kids raped and murdered and their offenders might receive justice but i guarantee ya it was still never enough!

I do not see Misty being afraid of Ron at all. She left when she wanted, she came home when she wanted, she did what she wanted when she wanted.

I do think she was frightened of him when Haleigh was taken just as anybody who would have been in that position would have been much less a teenager.

lol me too!!!! Jaba,me too

somebody said he walked that way cuz he was in shacles,he walks that way the few times we seen him not in shackles too,lol

Sandee,look for an agreement post right about now from OJ’S Glove too,lol

if he doesn’t post i mean,lol

I think rons guns scared people, not ron.

misty, however, was in really in no postion to fight back.

But, then misty goes back to him after being told to bring condoms. Sheeeesh. How degrading is ole ronnie boy? He’s a douche bag that took advantage of anyone he could. Prey on the weak is rons m.o.

Misty grew up in a house full of dysfunctional men. Those are the people she should have feared.

it is sad tho!

I haven’t hear misty say uc was calling and calling but you may have. That would be important.

Florida:

The standard for entrapment in Florida is as follows: it is not entrapment when the police intend to disrupt ongoing criminal activity and use reasonable means to do so. Alternatively, if the police are going out of their way to take advantage of someone who is not otherwise involved in drug trafficking or a related drug crime, and they use unreasonable methods to do it, the defense of entrapment can work. However, if the state can show that the defendant is predisposed to commit the drug crime, i.e. he/she has sold or been involved with illegal drugs before or was familiar with how drug deals work and the terminology, the entrapment defense is problematic, unless the defendant can show that the police’s conduct was particularly outrageous.

I think the only person/people Misty has shown any fear of are the guy/guys that robbed her. Now in that 911 she sounded scared.

Yes, I think the entrapment should be her defense or at least a very good beginning:)
Still waiting on Oj’s post;)
I have been reading all of your post and feel like I know you all already =)

lol Sandee,right we all do and thats why i keep asking about Tobias,she’s always around somewhere,lol

It is obvious what LE was trying to do. They went after all of them over and over again, making sure that the quantity of pills was over the amount needed for high trafficking charges. And yet UC only went after Hardy’s son for one deal and made sure the amount was on the low end of trafficking charges.

It is obvious why that was done. They wanted Misty in jail facing as many years as they could possibly get her on.

Drug Trafficking Defense
Timothy Hessinger and Donald Kilfin use their knowledge as former prosecutors to defend trafficking cases. Our team of experienced lawyers seek to reduce trafficking charges to possession or obtaining a controlled substance by fraud. To do this, we ask questions such as: Did police exceed authority in a wiretap or search? What kind of deal did their informant get for implicating you? Was your conduct justifiable or excusable? If the government used a confidential informant to entrap you into committing a drug trafficking act, you may have an entrapment defense.

wait til the underhanded dispicable vile tricks LE has played come out..
its called CASE DISMISSED!

i read myself they called and called,ill go look for it tho,
just sayin tho and yea she’s guilty but was entrapped to make her guilty of drug trafficing when she was a minor?

Office, Satsuma, Hope Sykes | by John H. Gohde

Reading the six incident reports that were released by the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office (PCSO) reveals some interesting information about the method of operation of the Satsuma 4 Plus 1 prescription drug gang.

In all of the drug stings, an under cover officer first had to leave Misty Croslin a message on her cell phone to call him back.

Every member of the Satsuma 4 Plus 1 prescription drug gang made the fatal decision to consummate the drug transactions inside the under cover agent’s automobile. Most of the time, they actually chose to ride along with the officer inside the very car that LE had rigged up with both audio and video recording equipment. Misty Croslin usually assumed the passive role by sitting in the front passenger seat while the power player, or the person who actually sold the drugs, always sat in the rear passenger seat.

On Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at approximately 2:30 pm the famous McDonalds restaurant incident at 2627 Reid St, Palatka, Florida went down.

After the under cover officer met up with Misty and Tommy Croslin who had arrived in their own car, Tommy went to talk to an unidentified man in a Black Chevy Truck, who presumably gave him the drugs. But Tommy, also, had the opportunity to retrieve the pills that could have been hidden in some bushes.

Tommy and Misty entered the under cover agent’s car to complete the sale of 45 oxycodone pills for $750.00 whereupon both Misty and Tommy exited the car. And, drove off in their own automobile.

Then on Tuesday, January 8th, 2010 the next score went down. The under cover agent started working Misty at 2 o’clock in the morning. Misty responded that she was riding with Donna in Brock’s car. The crime duo was coming from Virginia and would be in Brunswick, Georgia at 02:23 am. They were to meet up with the under cover agent at 4 o’clock in the morning with the pills.

Misty Croslin characteristically had loose lips. Misty told the officer that she did not like to use her own cell phone. That Donna needed the money. She also started to freak out because a lot of money and a lot of pills would be involved in this transaction. Further, she did not want to get into trouble. But asked if the nice officer could please drive her back home, afterwards?

The exchange of 155 oxycodone pills for $800.00 took place in front of the Flying J Truck Stop on 950 State Rd 206, Saint Augustine, Florida. Afterward, Donna Brock immediately exited the officer’s car with the money and took off heading south.

Misty Croslin remained in the car while the officer drove the excited little girl home to 116 Tyler St, Satsuma, Florida. Because Misty was so sweet, the officer insisted on giving Misty an extra hundred dollars for brokering the transaction with Brock. Misty told him that he would be able to buy more drugs from Donna in about three months.

Then there were three more related buys that took place in early January. On the 18th of January 2010, Misty Croslin was sufficiently trained, or shall we say dumb enough, to consummate an illegal drug transaction by herself, along with a black haired white female that PCSO has only identified as Kelly. New information indicates that she is a minor and is the sister of Kristina “NayNay” Prevatt. On the first two deals, Hope Sykes, the 18-year-old simply sat in the backseat of the under cover agent’s car and did virtually nothing but receive on the job training.

On Tuesday January 12th at approximately 10 pm Misty returns the under cover’s agent’s phone call and informs him that she had been robbed of the $100 that he had given her for brokering their last transaction. This was an unreported robbery. Apparently, Misty Croslin had wised up enough not to call 911 every time she gets robbed. Nevertheless, Misty still did not possess enough smarts to buy enough minutes for her cell phone. Seems that LE had offered to buy her minutes that night.

The officer originally requested 30 pills. But Misty and Ronald were a little short and only offered the agent 9 pills. LE was instructed to drive to 2nd Avenue, Welaka, Florida. The three clowns (Misty, Ronald, and Hope) arrived on foot with the 9 Hydrocodone pills, which were sold to LE by Ron for $65.00. The gang of three then promptly took off again on foot.

Being short on the pills, LE once again called Misty on the following day at around 4 pm. Misty returned their call and said that she had 25 pills to offer at $7.00 a piece. Ronald Cummings in the background chipped in that he did not want any more mix-ups, which apparently was in reference to the crime trio having had to take off on foot, yesterday. Perhaps, that was how Misty managed to have gotten robbed a few days ago?

LE this time was instructed to arrive at Old San Mateo road. The crime trio showed up in Ron’s white Chevy truck. Characteristically Ron then instructed LE to drive to yet another location. Apparently, as a security precaution Ronald always liked to hide the drugs in the bushes. A lot of maneuvering was always necessary before LE was able to have the pills in hand. After all, the brilliant suspects wanted to impress the under cover agent with their smarts.

This time 25 Hydrocodone pills were purchased from Misty Croslin-Cummings, Ronald Cummings, and Hope Sykes for $190.00.

One more drug transaction was made on Thursday the 14th, this time without Hope; at around 7 pm. Misty called back and told LE to arrive at the same Old San Mateo road location.

Ronald and Misty arrived in their white Chevy truck. After a whole lot of driving around in a failed attempt to confuse LE, a drug transaction of 71 Hydrocodone pills went down for $500.00. This time the crime duo had an epiphany. They charged LE an extra $30.00 payment for facilitating the deal. Misty and Ronald had finally arrived in the big time!

A few days later on January 18th, having been thoroughly trained in the ways of selling drugs on the street Misty Croslin, along with the mystery women who turned out to be Kelly Dodd, sold LE 18 Hydrocodone pills all by themselves.

The price was $140.00. Feeling embolden she charged LE an additional $40.00 payment for facilitating the deal. On the way back to Ronald Cummings the crime masterminds had LE drive Kelly back to her mother’s house on Tropic Avenue. Then it was off to meet Ron at a Kangaroo convenience store on Highway 17. Upon arriving, Ronald Cummings jumped into LE’s car to discuss a future drug deal. They had established customers willing to pay $7 a pop, plus a handling fee of $40. With visions of more money in their eyes, the prospering crime duo took off in Ron’s truck shortly thereafter.

Shoemaker is trying to make a deal because that is what a GOOD lawyer does, unlike the one that Hope had.

I know she said it in one of the tapes to Hnak…a fewwwwwwwww weeks ago! but i’ll go find it!

*cathyjo* ~ we talked alot about domestic violence yesterday…when most of mine was going on, women (or whoever was abused) had the right to drop charges (as in your daughter’s case), but over the last 15 or so years, here in my state, charges are now officially brought by LE, and even if the abused person wanted to, they could NOT drop the charges…wish for your family’s sake, t

hat could have been the case for your daughter… ((hug))

i encourage anyone who doesn’t have a law like that in their own states, to write their lawmakers. sometimes even the “victim” can’t see what is best for themselves. in those cases, a law like this really works.
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also, when everyone was disussing misty’s “pregnancy” (above)…was it ever “proven” that she was even pregnant at all? there are alot of comments above saying that ron tried to get her to lose the baby, and i remember the story at the time…but i always thought she had tried to “fake” a pregnancy by showing him someone else’s positive test. if she did “fake” it, i think that shows alot about her character.

jmo

I read that the ultra sound pix were actually Chelseas……..she was telling ron she was pregnant,or thats what i’ve read anyway!but she really wasn’r,so i am not sure?

The story about Misty being pg and showing Ron a positive test and then him rolling her in a ball trying to squeeze the baby out of her, came from Nay Nay. Misty has never said that as far as I know.

right *cj* that’s what i thought. i think that’s kind of suspicious and creepy (though not unheard of) that she tried to fake it. usually, when women do something like that they are trying to “trap” the man. that might play into what she was feeling about not just wanting to care for “other’s children”, and also her insecurities with being ron’s g/f (as far as the other ex’s).

jmo

Whylie,

Thank you so much for backing up your comments with actual docs. That’s what I like.

Looks like hope wants a new lawyer and a re-hearing.

Let’s see if a judge will decide in her favor and redo her deal.

Do you know if the priors were ever adjudicated one way or another?

mistys phone records and/or those of LE should help her present her defense with what she says is numerous calls.

I wonder why none of the 5 attorneys have filed a motion to dismiss by now based on entrapment? Got any idea?

ron is looking for a plea. Wonder why that is. Do they have something different on ron than on misty?

Thanks for debating this with facts, I really appreciate it. 🙂

The “Misty told RC she was pregnant” and all that story came from NayNay.Thank you to whoever deciphered her interview online,because,My God in Heaven,I don’t understand a word she says.It was on that internet guy’s site that goes on NG sometimes and reports on what he reads on the boards.Pffttt!!!

Shux,can’t find it but i am 99% sure i heard it,lol o well…….
when i find it and if i do i’ll post it!

just can’t find it so I’ll be sure to look up the info from now on when i reply to your posts!
So again,sorry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsJYF9hjXuc.this is a interesting video,geraldo march 2,2009

CJ I will look later as well. I am sure it was a visit between Hank and Misty when Misty was talking about it. Not to say that makes it true or not but if there are numerous calls from UC to Misty for a length of time before the first deal then I would think that will give them a shot at entrapment.

did anyone see geraldo,s video march 2,2009 utube interesting video.man dressed in black with cs and jr.

Jaba, I agree. I think the trafficking law was put in place for the right reasons but now it seems to be not having the results it was intended to be used for.

Criminals do need to be punished but the punishment must fit the crime. Often times it does not.

LadySadie said,
in May 30th, 2010 at 6:02 pm

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MG drives a school bus in Florida not Georgia.

thanks:)

LadySadie said,in May 30th, 2010 at 6:02 pm Wow, J @2:02 pm, then Georgia must have much more relaxed rules about school employees than either Florida or Ohio (the 2 states I have been a teacher in). Any employee for a school district, no matter what position must pass a FBI background check. I thought that was a federal law???

In Florida even vendors (such as the Pepsi delivery person, or the food delivery person) and volunteers (even parent volunteers) must pass the FBI background check.
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Really????? I do think it’s a great idea, but I live in FL and volunteer at my son’s school as does 90% of the parents of his school and I have never had to supply any information to volunteer.

madman ive seen all those tapes..was just going back of some of geraldo in this one his brother was interviewing cs just some interesting comments from cs is all.

he answered her prayers about his car…..pitiful,she’s a kid in a grownups body!

as far as the plea deals go…lawyers don’t use them as “guilty/not guilty”. so it doesn’t mean that just because they may accept a plea, that ron isn’t guilty of the same thing as everyone else, in theory. pleas deals are bargaining chips…its more like “to what degree of guilt”.

Misty: Ah, it was like 1:30. Yeah it was like 1:30. I didn’t know I had court. I was out for lunch and after lunch they said Misty are you ready and I said ready for what? She said for court and I said for real. She said yeah, and I was like yeah, hold on. And I was riding in the van, they had me in the van. The boys were in the back and I was in the front and theres that one boy in there talking. He was like yeah, Misty you’re doing good, don’t let them bring you down. You’re doing real good, just hang on. Hes from Putnam County, so he knows John Baaar-en

Hank: Whose that?

Misty: Who you think John Barten is?

Hank: I don’t know.

Misty: Ah, John Barten is the boy in that trailer with the, that has Timmy’s dog.

Hank: Oh yeah, snitch!

Misty: Yeah!
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Timmy has a dog too? lol shesh

Hank: I believ…

Misty: Its just, I don’t know. You wanna, like in my mind its just like you know, people keep saying this person, this person, so in your mind you like hey its that person. So you actually start to believe it. Like the Joe thing,

I wanna believe that because that is what I keep hearing and just makes like sense. Like that’s what happened, you know. I don’t know for a hundred percent that that was him, I don’t know.<———–

This is the statement that made me believe Tommy dressed in black with a mask to rob her that night cuiz he couldn’t find drugs and he needed em for work the next day!

for all of you who think Misty is innocent.. then WHY did she fail 4 lie detector tests?

one, maybe.. but 4??

idk…i think misty coming out with a statement reversing her original one implicating JO as being there, and the explanation she’s giving for saying it in the first place, makes it look even less credible. i think if she really wants people to believe her, not only does she have to tell the truth (obviously), but she needs to quit putting things out there like this long, convoluted explanation about other people’s power of suggestion over her own thoughts.

jmo

Ilove,imo because she was holding info to protect somebody,the ld guy himself even said,i can see you’re holding back when i asked you a question???
nobody that i ever heard said she failed it miserably!

As far as Misty failing 4 ldt’s, I think there is a good reason why LDTs are not admisable in court.. and quite frankly other than the Tim Miller test I have not read or seen any results of her other tests stating specifically the questions asked and which questions she failed… Perhaps I have missed the other report results?? Please share with me, I would really appreciate the info. Thank you very much!!

in my opinion, yes, misty knows more then she is telling, whatever her reasons. however, there is a reason LDT are NOT admissable in court…and that is that they are not reliable, not 100% accurate.

jaba said,in May 30th, 2010 at 6:46 pm Cj63,

No need to be sorry. You are super cool in my book whewther we agree or not on any of this we comment on.

If you find it, thanks for the effort.

I know you wouldn’t say it unless you believed it.

I was wrong once…once. :).
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welllllll plenty then but………
lol

yes *whylie*!! i agree with you. i think LE should give that question on the VA the same amount of weight that they give to the LDT results.

like i said above, LDT are not 100% accurate…but if they ARE taking them into consideration, it only seems just that they take the VA questions into consideration as well…

jmo

According to Tim Miller, Misty Croslin cried after hearing that she failed the test and then pleaded to take the voice analysis and undergo hypnosis, which she ultimately failed. When the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office got word that Misty had volunteered for these tests, they subpoenaed the results.
Major Gary Bowling of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department stated that he wasn’t surprised by the results. He said, “I agree with the point that was made by Tim Miller’s investigator, which is that Misty’s consistency is inconsistency.”
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and from the video i saw Karen Simmer was one of the eye witnesses of a sighting who called Bolling and gave him hello b/c he said they followed all the sightings and leads but did not and she stated he was very irate with her for calling about it!

and oh man she did give him hello?

hows that failing?

WinterRose said,in May 29th, 2010 at 6:25 pm ilovetheshowmadmen said,in May 29th, 2010 at 11:41 am I’ve had Lindsay’s back UNTIL I heard how hateful she is towards the dog…. that being said.. she is getting what she deserves. Now someone needs to let her out to pee and then put her back in her cage..

Someone that is so vindictive towards animals will only treat children the same way…..
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Don’t listen to that bs,you are not ridiculous.If a person is abusive to an innocent animal,it shows what kind of person they are.People treat animals and children the same.If a person abuses an animal,because they have no heart or patience,they’ll treat kids the same way.If animals are well cared for and spoiled,that’s how children are treated.

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Yes, WinterRose, and normally I would agree 100%, but if this is a PIT BULL we are talking about, I would give Lindsay a pass on this one.

Hi Aletha.. then Lindsey has NO BUSINESS having that dog.. and it should not be around children…. did you see her frame of mind on those tapes? She admitted she hated the dog..and said it in front of Austin…

hopefully someone in her neighborhood saw this and reports her to authorities.. that dog would be better anywhere else but in her house..

exactly,no excuse for mistreating a dog,her husbands worse than the dog!!!!!!!!
anybody that is capable of that is beyond low,
remember Jeffrey Dahmer?

I think part of Lindseys problem with the dog is she is a wuss when it comes to Tommy. She is keeping the dog for him. She also may not want to give it to a shelter where it will be put down. I bet she also feels protected by having that dog too. She may be afraid to let it out of the cage because of the children and outside the barking is a nuisance, per police reports. So it is a no win situation. I think we’ve all said we hate something or someone at sometime, doesn’t mean we would do them harm. She may just have been mouthing off some anger indirectly to Tommy.

CathyJo63 said,in May 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm toughcookie said,in May 29th, 2010 at 7:35 pm i understand that ng is proud of her children…all of us mothers are…however, i’ve posted here before that i think she’s really doing them a disservice, as far as their safety goes, by splashing their pics all over tv. many celebrities go to great lengths to be sure their children aren’t filmed, or photographed, and with good reason ! seems in this day and age, one can’t be too careful…there are nutjobs all over the place, and there are as many ng detractors as there are supporters, imo. would hate to think she may be putting them in jeopardy
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Did you ever see the tape of where she accused Crystal sheffield of “whoring and “exploiting ” JR on tv!
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I didn’t see that one but I’m not surprised. But I saw everything I needed to know about NG on that one episode I think it was late Jan or early Feb–she was wearing a turquoise outfit.

I’d like to see an FBI profile on her. I hope for those twins’ sake they are both milquetoast and non-assertive and honestly think she is wonderful. Looks like she’s toned down a lot recently, probably because of her looming legal issue. (This as all just my opinion, of course.)

You are a good egg, Cathy Jo. But on balance I think you are very likely wrong about MG. (Surprise.)

IMO

for a family that has NO money or means of income, honestly I would hope that the dog could be released into a no kill shelter. No doubt this is more stress for her. BUT, that dog didn’t ask to be taken into that home and then punished by being in a cage all day…

NO ONE an protect a child or an animal except an adult. This particular woman said she hated this dog….

I truly hope someone in her neighborhood calls in this concern…

Thanks “whylie” I thought I heard it in one of the many tapes that were recently released, I have not heard anyone else mention it, so I must have heard incorrectly…. when I have a few hours I will go back and listen again. It breaks my heart to see a bird in a cage or an animal penned, however it sounded like there were some real issues with Tommy’s dog, and one that would scare the heck out of me being around small children. Please know all of this family gives me the same fear, I don’t think it is only Tommy’s dog that needs to be removed for protection.

Jnet, Tommy may very well have said that about his dog. I have a hard time listening to his whiny butt voice so I could have missed it.

LadySadie, Sad isn’t it?

maryd..lol….. on the tanned leg.. let’s not forget those short shorts, too..lolol

Cathyjo63
Maybe Hank Sr didn’t file a report against Ron because he couldn’t read or write!

WhyLie, it sure is! It just blows my mind that MG could possibly work for any school district with her record! Shoot we have had people that have worked for St Johns County Schools for 20 years get 1 DUI and bye bye job!

Abuse does not have to be physical. Lindsy left her children alone time and again with a drug addict. She let that same drug addict drive her children to school even though he was so messed up he passed out before he could drive home, with pills laying all over the van seat. She left her children with people who were pulling knives on each other, fist fights, police searching the home, drug addicts using their home for a flop house. I believe that Lindsy has allowed her children to be abused in that environment.

I totally believe that Lindsy is not only capable of abusing that dog but I believe she is abusing him by keeping him locked up in a cage day in and day out.

Cage a pit bull and show him no affection.

The girl has no God given common sense.

Amen Random!

It is time for Lindsy to start doing right by her children and by the dog. Put her children first before Tommy and rehome the dog.

It’s ok maryd.

I am not sure what the laws are in Florida for “child protection services”….. I can’t imagine Ron Jr not being removed until Ron Sr is in the big house for drug dealing. I can’t imagine any agency listening to the hours of tape of what Austin has been subjected to during his mommy/daddy jail house visits and NOT intervene. I am appalled of what these children live with and is considered an “acceptable” environment……. So I guess I am not too shocked by how they treat their pets/animals with no attention by the Humane Society.

Misty was already in a domestic abuse cycle when she dated and took off to New Jersey with the Rob guy Tommy and Lindsy talk about. She then went on to get involved with Ron. Most women who get abused follow a cycle of picking the wrong men. Not all of these women are weak and docile, some abusers actually like women who are harder to control. Research it guys.
The guy wants to feel powerful but if he has a willing docile partner it deminishes his power.
Just like guys who like the chase but once he catches the girl he loses interest. jmo bbl

I’ve been thinking of a new direction
But I have to say
I’ve been thinking about my own protection
It scares me to feel that way

What’s love got to do with it
What’s love but a sweet old fashioned notion
What’s love got to do with it
Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken

Tina Turners Whats love got to do with it. Says it all. just my opinion
Tlk at ya all tommorow

What do you call a girl with 1 black eye?
A fast learner. 😈

just kidding people 🙂

This seems to scream at me as sooooooo obvious, does anyone else agree. I believe the reason Lindsay is so livid at Tommy is because she alibi-ed him. This is how he made her “look stupid”. I think she is hot under the collar that he didnt just stick to the plan, to the original story, thereby prioritizing Lindsey and their family. Instead Tommy makes her look like a liar and a fool by placing himself at the crime scene. Why? Probably to help little sis. He knows she is better off if everyone believes she did leave the kids alone and sneak out to party.. Better that than implicated in murder. any thoughts anyone?

Alexandria Loring said,in May 30th, 2010 at 7:57 pm Cathyjo63
Maybe Hank Sr didn’t file a report against Ron because he couldn’t read or write!
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sure..heres my thought..why’d lyndsy during the call to grannie hollar ask tommy if it was him?
Common sense says she doesn’t know where he was that night and she is his alibi.

Interesting point mrsm

Why would lindsey be embarrassed if Tommy failed his LDT? Because she stood by him? She was like “you can’t even tell the truth about that”, (maybe not exact words). Regarding the did you knock on the door that night. Supposedly he told LE he knocked on her door and she didn’t answer. Recently it was said he retracted that comment saying he was just pressured by LE to saying it. Was that after the LDT? Did he have to now say that because he showed deception in being there. And why does Lindsey take it to the next level with the incestuous comment?

Guess I have more questions than answers mrsm.

OJ’s glove said,in May 30th, 2010 at 8:38 pm CathyJo63 said,in May 30th, 2010 at 5:13 pm Office, Satsuma, Hope Sykes | by John H. Gohde
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thanks for the article cathy..hadn’t read that before, lots of good info
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