Since Tommy took LE to the dock, I don’t see a reason to believe a word he said from months ago when he was still deflecting blame.

Tommy or Joe did this for whatever reason and I think LE is stuck trying to prove the JO accusations. If they can’t, justice for Haleigh may be screwed.

one more love ya and giggle i am buyin a noose,can’t take it,lol bbs

Was LP going to get her van fixed or get her another car?I guess this is why LP stopped playing and went to try getting RC out,when it wasn’t going anywhere with TC.I guess these people have to go to work now and stop living off thier new celebrity status.

WinterRose @ 5:25: Lindsy referred to Leonard as ‘sweety’ when she posted about him buying minutes for her phone.

she told him maybe she should wait on her friend,lol yeaa to pay for the motor,lol
exactly Jason!! She’d prolly go home with him!

Thank you so much Simon. You are the best.

OMG Jason,are you serious??

Jason said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 5:28 pm

WinterRose @ 5:25: Lindsy referred to Leonard as ’sweety’ when she posted about him buying minutes for her phone.
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LOL,That cracked me up. 🙂

WinterRose, lol!

I think he bought it with the cam,so they could talk.

Ahh – the cam. Why would she need a cam? Isn’t email, chat good enough?

needs his birth certificate when he gets out rofl!

WinterRose, even minutes on her phone would fill the need of Lindsy and Leonard to talk.

I don’t know – just seems really weird that Leonard would buy her a computer with a cam!

CathyJo – fruitcake loaded with nuts!

Jason, Its an added security so he knows he is talking with her and not someone else. He proobably has it all taped LOL. She may think she is smart but she is really stupid and now she has gotten her hubby sunk. jmo

CathyJo @ 5:45: Leonard spent money on her back in the day when he was looking to get a BOMBSHELL from Tom.

He bought other things, or provided money for other things, which Lindsy told Tom she didn’t want to talk about during a visit because she didn’t want people hearing about it.

Leonard’s done with Tom now, and isn’t motivated to spend money on Lindsy.

Sorry, thought the first didn’t post –

Ann

Maybe Lindsy hit Leonard up for more money, he implied, or explicitly stated, what she could do with the cam he bought for her. LOL – just a thought that would explain her posting Leonard is a ‘sweety’ when he bought phone miutes for her, and yesterday posting “Some of these old men, so called, investigators, seem more like sexual predators to me”.

Well,I guess what LP was doing,was going thru her to find out what she knows and if he could get Tommy out,the same thing.So,if you take a person,put them on a webcam for hours,send money to them,they’ll talk more.The webcam made it more personnal than phone calls,I guess.I expect people will want to get ahold of Ashley and Lisa now,her friends and get on their myspace sites to spread what they’re saying about Lindsy and all.

Mother @ 5:55; I think he’s talking for the audience, too.

His ‘spin’ of the day. He and Lindsy have been exchanging letters. Letters prior to the visit recorded in this audio could have been leading up to this ‘planned’ conversation.

Last week, Lindsy posted on one of her YouTube ‘friend’s’ channel: “Timmy I think had something to do with this, and Chelsea is covering up for him. I mean, they bailed almost as fast as Joe”.

Stupid Lindsy doesnt she know LE knows everything about Tommys drug history by going to all of his known buddies and leaning on them? Tommy has smoked crack and has done way more than Lindsy is aware of. jmo

LE read their letters, and listened to their visit conversations.

I wonder why their phone calls are released, but not their written communication. It’s all conversation, so why not release the letters?

Could someone please link me to her youtube channel?

Trotline:

http://www.youtube.com/user/LindsyLPN

Southernvagirl,

I think she’s divorcing him because she has learned the truth about what happened to Haleigh.

@JB I’ve been wondering what happened to you.You have a way of making me laugh when I want to cry for Haleigh & all the other kids in this mess. I have a grand daughter who is getting ready to go off to college.They are not safe even at that age.I enjoy most of the people on this blog.I appreciate Simon, Jan,and all their friends who work so hard to find out the facts on this case. There isn’t another blog like this one.imo

About the time I decide this is a 3 ring circus they add another ring. There is no end in sight to this. They all are the biggest moochers I’ve ever heard of and still have nothing. At least gypsies or travelers do use their ill gotten gain for their families. After the last tapes if I here the word WHY again I might just lose it? These adults mind are like a 5 year old. Please give them some brain cells. I just hope LE can break these dysfunctional people but I’m starting to doubt it. Poor Haleigh and all the children involved.

Two days ago, Lindsy posted “I feel ignored, betrayed, and unloved”, and “I have to put my kids first”.

Feeling ignored and unloved, could be for the obvious reason – Tom isn’t in her life daily.

But, what would she feel betrayed about? Did she confide in Leonard, and he betrayed her? Did she confide in someone else, who then told Flora Hollars?

So, next theory that comes to mind. Nay Nay abliges Misty to make sure she gets out of the house to that party that night (and arranges for her to meet up with white boy greg). She comes and gets Misty. Misty takes the kids with her (because he won’t leave them by themselves). Nay Nay is supposed to be keeping an eye on them till Misty is ready to go home, but something happens and haleigh is killed. (maybe this is where Ron left work and hoped to find Misty at the party, but she was already with WB Greg. Ron goes nuts and threatens some people, blames Nay Nay, and Haleigh is accidently killed. Possibly by some drugged up people that don’t like Ron) They all panic! Nay Nay says Hey, we have to get rid of Haleigh and dump her body somewhere or we are “all” gonna go down for murder and drug charges! Ron calls Tommy (remember the phone call?) and says help us out. He gets everyone and they plan the abduction scheme. They put Haliegh in the dumpster (this is where Nay Nay drops her keys), Tommy sets up the back door, Jr. is put in his bed, Misty waits in the MH, and Ron goes back to work, dropping Nay Nay back off at her car. However, Misty panics, calls Timmy for advice and he says Oh no, too much evidence in the dumpster, get her out of there and make it quick. Tommy goes over and gets the van. Him and Timmy get Haleigh out of the dumpster and dispose of her (possibly the lake). Ron tries and “play it cool” by going to the convienence store to cover his tracks by acting like he doesn’t know anything going on!

When he gets home he makes Misty call 911, because he is ‘obviously’ too pissed to do it. I beleive her squeals are from him hurting her. He keeps repeating that he is going to kill the person who did this.

Yes, I think Ron’s tears were real, but they were for a ‘dead daughter’ that he couldn’t bring back to life (or get her life back).

I think he knows that these things can happen when you lead the life he does. But I also think he is smart enough not to rat out the gang that did this. That would be suicide! Plus maybe his family would be harmed. None of that will bring Haleigh back.

So, he comes to grips that yes he is mad at Misty for what she did to cause it, but he knows she didn’t do it directly. He knows that Misty loved Haleigh. He wanted to sweep it under the rug and get his own revenge in time. This is why he told the detectives that Misty absolutely did not go to a party, and was not with WB greg.

Why else would he cover for her? Tommy knows that he help set up the abduction scene. Timmy helped out too and that is why Chelsea covered for him and blamed Joe. Now, important part..Misty was drugged up…maybe she can’t remember who did what that night. But with this scenario, they were all involved. Ron covered for Misty, Misty covered for Ron, Tommy covered for Misty. NOW, Tommy is tired of Misty covering for Ron. This is because his loyalty is to his sister first (remember, he loves her). He wants Misty to stick with him and put the blame on Ron.

Thats their story and they are stickin’ to it.

Maybe she’s divorcing Tom because she has a new romance, perhaps a man with a good income who will help support or totally support her and the children.

Three years is a long time, she said to Tom a good while back.

chakra7 said,in May 5th, 2010 at 5:57 pm Ok if it was the Cresent City Mexicans,as Tommy refers to them,why wouldn’t Ron tell LE or take the money that Tim Miller offered, when he was their to give misty the voice stress test? I don’t buy it.

Agreed Chakra,because if tommy knew he’d blab it in a second to free him,self! I think tommys talking about that 35 grand but thats not what happened in my opinion!

heya Adams!!!!!!!!
he’s an idiot!

Who?? Jerk-face, that’s a new one (and funny), but who are you talking about – Tom, Tim, Leonard?

I dont see Misty protecting him though. Herself yes but not Tommy she would tell on him in a nano second just to be with Ron.jmo

BBL!

he had told her not to be lying and he knew tc wasn’t involved,she may be scared of ole dad!

Jason said,in May 5th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

She’s exercising and losing weight…….uhooo!

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Just so everyone knows this is Rev. 21-8. This is what Tommy wants Hank and Lisa to tell Misty.

I don’t know the link, but it was in evidence when they did the search that day. They found a set of car keys in the dirt in the area (dumpster also in the area). The keys just happened to be to Nay Nay’s car. Her car was also leaking antifreeze (from what I read somewhere and they found antifreeze on the ground too). I’m sure others have read this.

omg Tobias, for cryin out loud! who is he,Moses! LoL

(((Hey, Cathy)))

Jason, I was calling Tommy a jerk-face.

feeding my face and typing,lol

Tommy don’t know he fits the desription too! LoL

Like I said renewed interest in the search at the river thanks, tobias.

Ron, Misty and Teresa/That’s why Teresa got there in under 5min.
Timmy and Chelsea got out of Dodge to protect their kids because they were brought in by Misty not Tommy & Joe

So do I tobias………imho i do!!!!
just hard to prove and getting married didn’t help the le either?

and Tobias,i do think the tatoo on Misty was a promise to ron!

nay nays keys were found at the fake search site,Cobra tried to give them to le but they did not want them!

hope,cause its all about ME ME ME!

Tobias good scripture. Jailhouse religion they all use until they get out.

JenM–when was this search conducted? I want to try to find the link to LE finding Nay Nay`s car keys and antifreeze by the dumpster. I thought I recalled hearing that Cobra tried to give Nay Nay`s keys to LE when they did the fake search, but I am not certain of it. TIA

teds home,bbl hugs!

Didn’t Lindsy say it was 51 days today?

So, it was the 21 of January the first day, and from there you get to the 13th or 14th March?

I don’t remember the keys, do remember them finding some evidence but then later saying it wasn’t significant.

Antifreeze was in Nay Nay’s trunk wasn’t it?

This all started because of a missing child, and probably harm to a child.

Yet, even now the realization that children are to be protected and loved doesn’t seem to amount to a row of beans to these people.

Who are they?

Ann

april, you are right about something just not sure what. She knows something!

That was in San Mateo not at the MH dumpster.

Love how he tries to implicate Ron and Misty. I don’t think Ron is Mr. Innocent but I don’t think he knew what happened originally. I think he came to the realization that Misty knows what happened to his daughter but he hasn’t openly admitted it, probably b/c he doesn’t want to look any dumber than he already looks. I wonder what they are talking about when they say that it is what Ronald said it was. Sounds like they are trying to blame the Mexican Mafia, I just wonder why they wouldn’t tell on Ron if they knew something that would lead them to Haleigh and clear them.
Tommy keeps on wavering on his feelings for Misty, one second calling her a liar and then sticking up for her when he says it wasn’t her fault when someone was mad at Misty.
Gotta love how Lindsy blows off the fact that they owe their friend Cher a hundred bucks, she doesn’t want to hear it. She says she doesn’t owe him a hundred bucks yet he says it was for when they didn’t have money for cigarettes and stuff. What a loser, she could care less about owing money to this girl yet she couldn’t bitch enough when the parents owed her money. The little self centered bratt threatened to tell Nancy Grace and Art Harris about them owing her, maybe she should also let them know about her borrowing money for frigin smokes and God knows what else over a year ago but has no intention on paying them back. She is nothing but a spoiled rotten bratt and the more she talks the more her true colors come out. She wants a $10,000.00 car b/c she blew her motor up after Tommy kept telling her to change the oil. You would think she would be more worried about getting things for her children so they don’t stand out any more than they already do, she just figures the state can keep giving them stuff. She has three damn kids that are probably all still supposed to sit in car seats and she thinks a little Altima is going to fit them comfortably, she needs to get her head out of her ass and put the kids first. Besides it would be cheaper to put the engine in the van but she sounds like she doesn’t want the van anymore and wants to hold out for someone to feel bad for her and get her the new car. Her parents/grandparents have been supporting her lazy ass for years, I think its time they cut the cord and let her learn to fend for herself. I am sure she uses the kids as pawns to make them feel bad but they can help with the kids without physically giving Lindsy money. Buy what they need and give it to them instead of giving the cash. Bet the little hooch would be bitching then.
Tommy sitting there talking about how he thinks about taking pills and shit is pathetic. They know they are being recorded but are so damn stupid that they keep talking about it. Neither one of them sound educated at all, I know she went through LPN schooling but that doesn’t mean she is smart. Besides she hasn’t gotten a job yet as far as I know and it doesn’t sound like she is even trying that hard. Nurses are in high demand yet she can’t seem to find anything. Sure her name is mud but I am pretty sure she could get a job at a nursing home or something like that if she tried. Also it seems as if she is being picky like only wanting to work days. Most people have to start at the bottom and work their way up to get the shifts they want. It isn’t easy to get a daytime shift right off unless it is in a regular health care office. She had a girl staying with her at one time that should have been able to babysit and she should be able to get the person/people who watch her kids when she goes out to take them if she gets a second shift job. She has no room to be picky in her position yet she is. She acts like it’s funny to be in the spotlight but has no clue that most people are disgusted with her and the rest of the dirtbags.

Kudos to Lindsy – she banned a vulgar-mouthed poster from her channel. I hope she complains to YouTube, and they ban him from posting anywhere on the site.

The guy is over-the-top cruel and vulgar in his posts to her channel, which makes me think he has a personal relationship with one of the players in this case (my guess – Misty).

What’s the “fake search site”?

Here is what I think is going on right now. Tommy has owned up to dumping the body for Misty. Misty called him for help and he doesnt really know what happened to her before he got there. Misty is still holding out on what she knows. Ron is so silent we hear crickets. lol jmo

I think we’ll see significant movement in this case between now (Hope’s sentencing) and the sentencing of Misty, Tommy, and Ronald.

Tobias I think you are right on! imo

tobias, I think you are probably right about Tommy dumping the body for the little slut Misty. Most likely him and Joe dumped her after Misty called them to help. I don’t think Misty intentionally beat her to death but probably neglected her and she got into something and died. I also wonder about the blankets, she mentioned multiple times how she had to wash them b/c they smelled like pee. It’s like she is offering that information when she wasn’t asked about the blankets. It’s one of the first things she said, kind of strange if you think about it. Sure at some point if she was questioned about why the blankets were in the washer then it’s understandable but she doesn’t seem to be able to get anything strait and doesn’t offer any information without it being pulled from her yet she felt the need to say she washed the blanket b/c it smelled like pee. Wonder if Haleigh wet the bed or if Misty washed the blankets due to their being some kind of evidence on it, like maybe she wrapped her in it originally or something. It’s just really weird how she mentions them over and over. Also in one of the interviews she was talking about that night and said something about her(Misty’s)blanket being in the van…I think it was something like “I didn’t have my blanket b/c it was in the van they took that night”. Not sure what the hell she meant by that nor why the blanket would be in the van in the first place.

I’m asking about the “fake search site”, Cathy keeps referring to it. I’ve not heard of it. Curious too.

I believe this tape is before she knew ToC involvement. I bet hew entire mindset has changed now.

If this was the tape of mid-March it might take LE a couple of weeks to actually get to hear the tape.

Then they may have interviewed Tommy and scheduled the LDT – which he failed.

So, more about this conversation with Lindsy was required and since he doesn’t want to do more than three years he cooperates.

Ann

Lucy: and I think the rat in ToC mailbox is a warning to him

maybe she called TiC first and he told her to call ToC because he was in town and TiC had been in the accident?

Tobias asked whether law enforcement has access to (I think) Child Protective Services’ records. If those are the records Tobias is referring to, I can tell you that here in Sacramento, CA (home of Leonard Padilla!!), law enforcement has access to Child Protective Services’records. I worked at the State of Children’s Children’s Services Division for several years. From what I saw, it is also my understanding that all states’ law enforcement agencies can get access to those records.

Until the search in mid-April – was it Padilla intention to bail everyone out?

Had heard he and Grace were bailing out Ronald Cummings. It is obvious Lindsy is talking about Padilla as her friend. Tommy, true to himself, doesn’t let her finish, and seemed to have expected him at a bond hearing in mid-April so that he would be free for a little while.

Well something happened – and your assumptions about Mass and what Chel. and Timmy told Lindsy is probably right on the money.

Ann

there was a fake search,yes orchestrated by griffis

i was told she decided to divorce t when he failed his last ld test?? is that true?

I’ll get it,the link for fake search if yall want me too???

The message to Misty from the book of Revelations is just a little creepy.

ain’t it though Lucy,creepyy!

Haleigh Cummings, mother Crystal Sheffield, with brother, Ronald, Jr. aka “Butterbean”

By Art Harris, The Bald Truth, (c) http://www.artharris.com, all rights reserved

As a member of the Putnam County Child Abduction Response Team, and a lead investigator trying to crack the Haleigh Cummings mystery, Peggy Cone found herself searching the hay farm in nearby Baker County last Friday, when more than three dozen law enforcement officers from the state police and several counties descended on two trailers the missing five year old’s mother, Crystal Sheffield, and her maternal grandmother, Marie Griffis, call home.

It was an invitation only affair, according to Captain Dominic Piscitello of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department; the mother’s family had invited law enforcement to search the 40 acre property to help remove any suspicion Haleigh might be hidden there, or had been there since she was reported missing Feb. 10 from her father’s trailer in nearby Satsuma, Florida.

After digging up several animals the family said they’d buried there, walking the property and sending divers into a nearby lake, Piscatello announced they’d found no sign of Haleigh, and no evidence to suggest she was there after her father’s babysitter turned child bride, Misty Cummings, said she awoke at 3 a.m. to use the bathroom and found her gone.

But during the search, Putnam County Det. Peggy Cone did discover drug paraphernalia and a small amount of crack cocaine in a Ford truck on the property, and reported it to a local deputy. “She showed me where she discovered a Marlboro Lights Cigarette pack behind the seat of a 1991 white and green Ford truck parked on the Southeast end of the property, which contained two Crack pipes and a plastic container with Crack Cocaine residue inside,” wrote officer Jerald A. Peterson, from the local sheriff’s Charlie Squad 1.

“I noted,” the deputy’s report goes on to say, “the cigarette packs location and took possession of the pack.”

But at the time, the deputy struck out trying to track down the truck’s registered owner the report identified as Jesse. L. Watkins, a friend of the family.

Later, he denied any knowledge of the drugs or pipes, Major Gerald Gonzalez of the Baker County Sheriff’s Department, told The Bald Truth, as did any member of the Sheffield or the Griffis families. Kim Picazio, attorney for Crystal Sheffield, said her client and family were shocked at the discovery and vehemently denied any suggestion they condoned –or might be using –illegal drugs.

According to a Gonzalez, given the sketchy circumstances, it would be virtually impossible to make a meaningful drug case and he doubted it would be pursued.

Great point Karon about fear and the drug boys taking them, and all their words and actions after the fact reeks of mourning and grief not fear, they knew Haleigh was dead. jmo

Again I ask.. what is her youtube.com name? Jesus I was in Welaka all day and this topic comes up at the bait store every time someone comes in.

Chakra,very interesting info!!!

btw you’re welcome Chakra! lol

Simon.. you are so right.. That was one heck of a statement Tommy made, and if Le even stopped to think about it… and there is any truth in it.. We will all need to go out for a drink, even if we don’t drink !!!

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T: Ever since she got with ronald man

L: I don’t know if she thinks this is a game.

Tommy: I think its what Ronald told us, thats what happened.

Now he is kicking himself in the ass cos he told

Now its probably too late

Now they know if they give the kid up they are f##ked. But the police don’t want to hear that.

I think she is covering for somebody
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“one flew over the cuckoo’s nest” don’t even compare to these idiots Jen!

brb

Trotline Designs:
What are the local people saying?

I heard that it was a ‘tip’ the police were investigating about bones being planted on Crystal’s parents property.

When they arrived there was no problem (no warrant required) to search the property which they did and found animal bones only.

Didn’t hear about the crack pipe – boy, is there anyone in, associated with, or around this family that are not into drugs!!

Ann

I agree chakara7 and Karon, that makes sense. I still wonder how Ron’s mom plays into this. I would think if she was against all this drug stuff, it would show in her words and actions. I know everyone’s different, but I would think normally one would be speaking out against at least, Misty doing drugs while watching her grandchildren. Like being flaming verbally against it and condemning her for it, I have only heard her defend Misty. Has she spoke out against the drug use around the children?

Karon..
The locals think Ron and Misty did harm to Haleigh. When you go to the Welaka Drug Store all the truths come out. Welaka Bait and Tackle is another story. We have no idea we just wonder like everyone else.. link to the vids would be nice.

If you are ever in Welaka at the Welaka Bait and Tackle though.. look for a shaved head guy.. that would be me and that is my store.

Trotline, can you give us details as to what is being said? And what are folks saying about the grandma’s?

Chrome, Lindsy banned the vulgar poster (about time). I hope people complain to YouTube about him and his account is closed.

She wrote 3 hrs ago (on his channel page): “You are rude, obnoxious and a poor excuse for a human. You are blocked”.

Another person is now posting vulgar comments on Lindsy’s page, and on the page of the person Lindsy banned.

I think I’ll report both of the vulgar mouthed posters to YouTube. Haven’t read the YouTube policy, but I’m pretty sure such language isn’t permitted.

Lindsy did the right thing – banning the poster, and she did it with class.

thanks Trotline – interesting to hear the local perspective

We don’t hear TC saying, TiC won’t be back to Fl. because he is too afraid of the drugboys taking his kids, or that he fears for his kids. No, he goes into a rant about the cops dogging their family and won’t leave them alone. We also don’t hear about that being the reason ToC wants out of Fl., either. If that was what really happened to Haleigh, they would have fear. There is no fear in any of them, just fear of the cops catching them in their illegal activities.

LindsyLpn isn’t right or she deleted it. Perhaps there is an underscore or something?

Trotline;

I’ve heard another local say that friends have said Ron was late to work Feb 9 2009…and drunk…allegedly from co-workers talking to another local. You haering that or other juicy?

I object to the page being up at all. That comment about Gods will… and Tommy sleep walking is bull. What a F*c&^ng Libertine!!

chakra7 said,in May 5th, 2010 at 10:00 pm LOL CathyJo isn’t it comforting knowing that smartass smug Misty and all are sitting and probably (hopefully) gonna rot in jail. I’m normally never spitefull but the senseless death of that beutiful baby gets me so outraged

Exactly Right Chakra,they had every chance to be honest and maybe Haleigh would still be around but thanx to all the lyin and covering up….somewhere they have forgotten the REAL VICTIM,imvho

and Chakra,i am angry to,I could bite nails into and a hammer for that matter!

@Karon

We live on Beechers Point. We don’t live in the part of Welaka they live in but we all talk about it and we all think that Ron killed Haleigh before he went to work and that is why the conflicts in the stories about what happened that night. Can I please get the link to the page of Tommy’s wife?

@HollysGmom

I just don’t know. We only vacation in Welaka and were abashed when we saw our town on national TV and these scum bags getting married in a trailer!

TrotlineDesigns said,in May 5th, 2010 at 10:32 pm @Karon

We live on Beechers Point. We don’t live in the part of Welaka they live in but we all talk about it and we all think that Ron killed Haleigh before he went to work and that is why the conflicts in the stories about what happened that night. Can I please get the link to the page of Tommy’s wife?
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makes me wonder too why he said Haleigh rode on his lap and
about sykes saying she saw Haleigh,imo she lied! thats the only reason gsykes has to lie for,protect ron!

i would never harm anyone Chakra.but these nuts deserve all they get and then some!

Beautiful, Lindsy’s getting attention from people like that is frightening. I’m hoping to find a complaint button on YouTube. I thought I saw a ‘flag this as inappropriate’ link somewhere, but can’t find it now.

Again the link to her youtube would be nice.. would love to see her vents!!!

the groom wore a black wifebeater at the wedding!
only in florida!

Holly, and “He loves me, only part of the time”.

THX, Beautiful, will do.

OMG Jason,SKINHEADS’ WELL AINT THAT AS FITTIN AS A BUFFALOS HOOF IN A BABY SOCK…..ASK aDAMS!!!!! SHEESH

Completly AGREE CathyJo, and about Sykes and Teresa I think they have always covered for Ron,look at all the drug busts he got off of I think they wouldn’t think twice about lying and covering for ron

bingo Chakra,so it says ALOT!!!!!!!!!

Oops ,i quit,i aint LOL no more,lol forget!

Jason said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

Beautiful, Lindsy’s getting attention from people like that is frightening. I’m hoping to find a complaint button on YouTube. I thought I saw a ‘flag this as inappropriate’ link somewhere, but can’t find it now.
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Good luck with youtube doing anything. Lindsy was told about it and tried to get it removed and they haven’t done so yet..

Sparky,and the that is so funny……whats so damn funny…..Lindsey would saY THAT IF HE SAID HE’D SMACK HER HEAD OFF!

i THINK THEY ALL FELL OUTTA OF THE STUPID TREE AND HIT EVERY LIMB ALL THE WAY DOWN!

Jason, the post on LC’s YT account was not her post against LP, it was from a flaming troll on her page who she claims she blocked, as per her message calling him basically scum, on his page. Hope that helps so people don’t think she bad mouthed LP that way. She did not, it was some other person.

i had not been paying much attention to the tapes while Ted has been here but man do they say alot!!!!!! how these people think,I will never know!

know what? lol

stilllucy said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 7:34 pm

Like I said renewed interest in the search at the river thanks, tobias.

Ron, Misty and Teresa/That’s why Teresa got there in under 5min.
Timmy and Chelsea got out of Dodge to protect their kids because they were brought in by Misty not Tommy & Joe
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It’s on the police report that TN arrived there after PCSO so she was not there in 5 mins.

beautiful*adams (cent) said,in May 5th, 2010 at 11:04 pm OJ… are you crushing on CathyJo?
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who isn’t? 🙂

O.J.:
I thought my link didn’t work, either. When I clicked on the post comment space, it came thru.

OJ… she is very crushable!

Not to OJ,he hates women,lol /only teasin Oj!

beautiful*adams (cent) said,in May 5th, 2010 at 11:11 pm OJ… she is very crushable!
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it would be my pleasure 🙂

I stand corrected. Teresa arrived in 3-5 minutes after receiving the call from her son, Ron. I believe she arrived after the 2nd car arrived on scene.

Ron should have called his mother to check on Misty that night, she’s only 3-5 minutes away.

Chrome, Under ‘recent Activity’, Lindsy only posted a “Thank-you, sweety” to Leonard after he bought phone minutes for her. In her post about ‘investigators’, she didn’t name Leonard or any other investigator.

‘Troll’ posts, such as the worst – from ‘Dan_’, are on the right side of the page under ‘Channel comments’.

Only Lindsy, or someone who has her account logins, can post on the right side under ‘Recent Activity’.

The posts we’re talking about no longer show; they’ve been replaced with more recent activity.

I reported the vulgar posts, on grounds they are sexual harrassment.

CathyJo63 said,in May 5th, 2010 at 11:20 pm he likes women who rob banks and loses other peoples children…..rofl!
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you would shoplift for me..
after you got to know me 🙂

LoL Jason,i can’t believe lp can’t see right thru her! I can!

I prolly would OJ,A dog leash to choke you wiff,lol

That is so funny……lol giggle giggle

Chrome, let me clarify a little further! I read over it and it confused me!

Lindsy’s ‘thank-you’ to Leonard, and comment about the ‘investigators’ (under Recent Activity on the left), no longer shows due to more recent activity.

The vulgar comments on the right still show, but I’ve reported them to YouTube – hopefully they’ll at the least be removed – will be nice to see the poster’s account closed.

maryd said,in May 5th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
LOL “I love you”
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thanks but I’m cathyjos

Love u 2
My account needs money

you better be good to my dog dammit!

poor dogs prolly on cloud 9 cuz he’s gone rofl!

you need to make him mind you,be good to my dog though! sheesh!

thats how i took it Mary,he’s about to wake up without falling asleep first imo!

hopefully she won’t fall for another like him but who knows!

“WBG” is available now

Did someone use the word “troll” on Lindsey’s page? That’s like old school. Someone called me that on here the other night.

I just learned that word :O StillL

Strange that Tommy wanted a Pit Bull cause he ain’t no dealer.

THEY ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE,ONE SECOND THEY’LL BE GOOD…NEXT THEY WILL TEAR YOU APART…..for no reason,its how they are made,lol
I saw one knock a grown man on his back and go for the guys throat,my hubby happened to be really quick on his feet or the guy would not have had an adams apple,i know that,everyday someone is basically killed by a pitbull,mostly kids! You can own them for yrs and one day they just change!

Yea, we know too much about ol darkangelslut on you tube…don’t we cent…LMFAO!

exactly Mary but i sure hope she’s good to his dog!
I love u!

maryd;

Rats in swampy/wooded areas are plentiful, especially large wood rats.

Oh no now I’m thinking about the dog. Could Misty have gone to Tommy’s with the kids? No, I won’t go there.

Wow! Ne angle…interesting…however, if that dog had attacked and killed Haleigh, it’s hard to imagine Lindsy would still have it this long after Tommy went inside. There is something with that barking dog complaint…I feel it.

Yea i think that was at 2:30am, something like that. Probably when Tommy was getting home from his ventures.

Hi everyone….this is a very good site….I was wondering if anyone ever thought about where Junior might fit in to all this…if he was at a party or in the mobile home, I don’t think a 3 year old would stay quiet for a year if he saw or heard his sister getting attacked…for sure he would have told someone…also, since the van got mentioned the other day and there was something about a dent…do you think these people could have been high and accidently ran over Haleigh with that van…just a thought….

CathyJo63 said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 11:57 pm

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The dog barking complaint was actually called in on February 4th. LE didn’t actually respond until the 10th for some reason. No idea why it took 6 days.

Marybeth;

Many of us question the nights events as they surround Jr. If something happened inside MH why didn’t he hear it or if he did why not talking about it? Could he have been coached into silence or a “story”. WHat if the story that he gave was coached by ROn and/or Misty? to make it look like a stranger/SO abduction? One then wonders why would Ron say coached by Crystal/imply it? I’m still trying to figure out why he lied about the fight about stolen gun.

sorry.grrrr caps!
man it keeps getting stranger!

I dunno how i have forgotten all this stuff!
but i thought the dog complaint was same day!
ty tho!

There was a non emergency disturbance call at 2am there a cop responded named Greenwood, took a report, reported that Misty was there and HaLeigh was seen too. Isn’t that right, Holly’s Gmom?

green lane is tommy and l’s addy!

because they said the cop was at tommys house when Misty called 911!

CathyJo, 202 Green Lane is the MH.

Ron’s Jason??? oboy,i swear i need a white coat with the arms in the back,then whats t and l’s addy?

I don’t know, let me see if i can find it.

Thank you,maybe it was Tyler st. Jason?

I tend to go back and forth from here and there because they usually back there items up with links and Levi Page is associated with them.

maryd said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 12:03 am

That makes no sense J. To go to someone’s house 6 days later at 2: something AM. Someone had to call that night too.
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Believe what you want. I’ve seen the police report.

The complaint was made on February 4th at 1:35pm. The neighbor said the dog was barking for 6 hours straight. The report said contact was made on February 10th at 11:00 am.

Take the information or leave it. There is a police report to back up what I am saying.

116 Tyler was Lindsy/Tom’s address. I’m looking for the barking dog complaint . . .

Levi takes his questions right from this site for his blog/radio show. They have a thread for questions. It seems to be a pretty thorough site for accurate info. There’s also info about all the vehicles involved.

hmm Lucy,i didn’t know that!

hmm possibly could they have went to that place..i forget the name of it but to maybe dispose of something and was seen there so they said they went to get her clothes!

Well Cathy, anything is possible with that bunch of LIARS…….

wow,ty Jaon!
for sure Lucy!

has Flora been back on n/g? since i have been away!

But, the date on Tom’s is not the 10th of Febr. Story about the barking dog that night not true?

CathyJo, She’s been on Levi page’s show – you can play it any time from his page on BNN.

*Spoiler: She doesn’t think Haleigh was drugged at the MH.

Part 1 of this audio transcript:

Tommy: Hello

Lindsy: Hey baby

Tommy: They just took a picture of you…

Lindsy: What?

Tommy: Yea, you didn’t see that flash?

Lindsy: No. Why?

TOmmy: I don’t know…probably to put on tv

Lindsy: Are you serious?

Tommy: (laughs)

Lindsy: Are you serious?

Tommy: I guess, that’ what everybody said…there was a Fn flash it’s your picture being took. I don’t know…

Lindsy: Oh well…

TOmmy: I love ya…

Lindsy: I love you too…It so rainy today..

TOmmy: I know, I’ve been looking out the window and it’s rainy as h*ll…

Lindsy: We’ve been under a tornado watches and stuff…

Tommy: Really?

Lindsay: HmmHmmm It’s been raining all night & all day..

Tommy: Yea…What time is it?

Lindsy:I should of….??? if I’d of known they were gonna take my picture..lol

TOmmy: Yea…(Yelling to someone in background) What time?

Lindsy: 2:00

TOmmy: 2:00?

Lindsy: Umm hmmm

Tommy: Yea, I’ve been waitin for ya…

Lindsy: You didn’t get much sleep did you? (Hee Heee Hee)

TOmmy: No…

Lindsy: You have eaten?

Tommy: Yea, Scott tried to eat some of it…(Laughs)

Lindsy: (Laughs) I love you, I miss you…

Tommy: I miss you too..did you have fun at the gym?

Lindsy: Yea, I’m going back tonight

Tommy: Are ya?

Lindsy: I’ve got a spinning class…(laughs)

TOmmy: A what?

Lindsy: SPinning Class?..

Tommy: What’s that about?

Lindsy: It has all theses, like, weird looking bikes and they have like music and it’s supposed to be really good for like your abs and thighs…

Tommy: Who’s all going? Just you Ashley and Lisa?

Lindsy: Lisa’s not going, Ashley just texted me and said she wants to try it.

Tommy: Yea…

Lindsy: Lisa’s going to a birthday party, she’s been cheatin anyway..she’s ain’t gonna loose no weight.

TOmmy: (Laughs) Yea…..

Lindsy: I’ve…I’ve lost 7 pounds

Tommy: Yea, well, don’t loose too much..

Lindsy: I’m not…I’m not…I’m just trying to…but I’m gonna gain it in muscle…you knowwhat I mean…

TOmmy: Silly…

Lindsy: Be buff….(Laughs 3times)

TOmmy: You better stop…(Laughs)

Lindsy: (Laughs again)

Tommy: D@mn it! (laughs)

Lindsy: (Laughs) I love you…

Tommy: I love you too…I miss you…

Lindsy: I miss you baby…

Tommy: You get any mail from me today?

Lindsy: I didn’t check the mail today..it’s pouring (laughs)

TOmmy: Well, you need to check it…

Lindsy: I’ll check it today, but I haven’t checked it yet…I don’t know…

Tommy: I sent you something else out today…

Lindsy: Ok…I don’t knowwhat time my mail runs…

Tommy: I don’t know..

Lindsy: I’ll have to figure it out…call the post office

Tommy: But if…I sent you two letters out this week.

Lindsy: Ok…

Tommy: So you should get em this week…If you don’t get em you need to find out why the F you ain’t gettin em! Cause you ain’t got all the sh*t I wrote ya.

Lindsy: Um mmm (Negative)

TOmmy: It’s BS! There ain’t no reason for them to keep it…(Laughs)

Lindsy: I hear that…

Tommy: Did ya? (laughs)

Lindsy: Yea,,,(Laughs)

Tommy: Ugghh….

Lindsy: So what time did you get up today?

Tommy: Like noon…I was..I was up at early but it was still dark out so I just kind of laid there and slept a little bit on and off…

Lindsy: (Laughs) I figured you weren’t gonna get up….you usually don’t get up by this time..(Laughs)

TOmmy: No…

Lindsy: I love you..You look really good today.

Tommy: Thank ya…you do too.

Lindsy: (Laughs) You look really sexy…

Tommy: Than you…you do too babe.

Both: (Laughs)

Tommy: You ain’t heard nothin about the van gettin fixed? You take it to Willard?

Lindsy: Uh no, I didn’t take it to Willard..I think…they’re talking about putting a new engine in…but my friend’s comming..the week after I get back from M..S…

TOmmy: Who’s that?

Lindsy: You know who I’m talking about…

Tommy: Oh…alright…

Lindsy: Don’t say it..don’t say it..

TOmmy: Alright…

Lindsy: So…

Tommy: So, maybe…he..It’ll be able to get out of here before I go to court…on bond…cause he’ll probably..

Lindsy: Yea, I know..he said hopefully he can have you home by…when I get home.

Tommy: (sniffs) I hope he can too..

Lindsy: That’s what he said…he said “Wouldn’t that be nice if you comehome and he was there?” I said “Yea!”

Tommy: He’s got three weeks. Three weeks till I go to court.

Lindsy: I know…

Tommy: So he is comming down?…He’ll probably be at the courthouse

Lindsy: Well,no..He’s going to..no… after I get home…but if he has to come down sooner he said he will but probably not till after I come home.

Tommy: Uh…ok…

Lindsy: He said..He said wouldn’t it be nice to have you home and I said “Yea” (Laughs)

TOmmy: (Laughs) Yea…it would. For a little while…

Lindsy: Yep…..(Laughs)

TOmmy: Yea it would for a little while

Lindsy: yep..

TOmmy: I’m sure I’m gonna get some type of time off of all this. I’m ..I’ve already come to accept that.

Lindsy: Yea, well, we’ll just see what

Tommy: I hope it’s not thatlong…you know…

Lindsy: ..might even be 18 months…

TOmmy: MIght even be longer…but I’m not going to let it bother me. Wrote in my letter, you know how I act like this chit don’t bother me, it does. I just gotta make the best out of it. This Fn sh*t hurts me bad,..not being home with my family..my kids..I miss you guys.

Lindsy: we miss you too…51 days today….

Tommy: Yea…about as ..try to make the best out of this.

Lindsy: Yea, I know…

TOmmy: The best out of a bad situation. I can’t Fn be worried and stressed out n sh*t, I’ll die in here.

Aprrox (start – 5:45 minutes)

Thank You Jason! I’ll sure check it out!

Jason;

There are multiples for Lindsy Sr and Hank Jr. The feb 09 2009 one was signed off on by Linsdy…I’ve posted the link here before…I know it’s there or at least was there…

so does dog shampoo,lmao ! lindsey had to buy dog shampoo but starve her yungins!

Yes it does, Mary! Yahoo! Now we know for sure.

Loved chattin wiff yas,but better get to bed,we are going to ky tomorrow to see where we were born! well so Ted can see where we were born,I already knew! LoL
hugs,be safe!

i love you. i love you. i love you. i love you more. no, i do. i love you. love you. love you.
I love little baby ducks, old pick-up trucks, slow-moving trains, and rain
I love little country streams, sleep without dreams, sunday school in may,
And hay
And i love you too

This I love you thing is like a virus. It reminds me of my dear grammy’s short term
memory attacks where she would say the same thing to me every two minutes.

Night Cathy, enjoy your day tomorrow. I’m off to. Nite all.

Hope,i don’t doubt that you are right!! thats a good point!

Me too Kids.
Be safe.
Have fun!

Hope you and Ted have a great day tomorrow, CathyJo! Goodnite!

Sleep well, CathyJo!

you too Pinky,sweet dreams to all,ok now i am gone,lo

bbl

Does anyone remember Misty telling her thoughts about ‘laying a fake rose’ somewhere in the woods that night, but she doesn’t know if it is a dream or not?

Tommy said 51 days.

51 would March 13th… a Saturday. hmmmm

Disclaimer:
Tommy has been known to be OFF. lol

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=760611&IMG=61111

Sorry, didn’t know someone had answered about the dog barking citation. That is what I get for reading from the bottom up 🙂

CathyJo63 said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 11:40 pm

worst dog to have around kids,their jawls actually lock when they bite! they go for the throat,I saw it happen!

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that’s not true, they do not lock. I raised my kids/grandkids around my pits. I have been around pits my whole like, my uncle had around 30 that he bred. I’ve had 4 and alot of the people I know have them too. No one has been bitten that I know.

Pinkyandduhbrain said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 2:05 am

Geez vaquera!

Does anyone in this town not do drugs and treat children decently? Even the sheriff’s
son? Unreal.
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well Tommy did mention the sheriff’s son in one of his tapes. guess he knew him well enough to know he was a bigger druggie than he was.LOL

Part 2 of Audio transcript

Tommy: What sucks is I’m Fn locked down like a dog in a d@mn cage all day long..

Lindsy: I know..better to be in there though then be out in the …the regular..

Tommy: Not really..

Lindsy:…jail…for you…

TOmmy: No! Nobody’s gonna F with me..I mean..people next door are my friends now. I..

Lindsy: Shhhh…

Tommy: For real! (Laughs) Talk to them all the time through the doors..

Lindsy: People ..what about all them people that talk sh*t? say?

Tommy: They don’t do that no more…we talk through the door n sh*t…

Lindsy: So they’re not mean to you anymore?

TOmmy: No!

Lindsy: Then why don’t you get out?

TOmmy: Cuz they ain’t gonna let me…It’s BS! Stuck in here..

Lindsy: It’s crazy…

Tommy: Well….(resigned)

Lindsy: I love you…

Tommy: I love you too…I hope you get them pictures back..then you can send me them in your letter.

Lindsy: I know…

TOmmy: It’s BS!

Lindsy: I know..I’ll go..um…to wal-mart maybe today…I’ll have Ashley folow me to wal-mart. (Sniffs) and I’ll get you some more pictures.

Tommy: Alright…

Lindsy: So if those don’t come …um…I’ll just get you different ones.

TOmmy: Ddd Did you ask my mom and dad about…ahhh, my dad when he gets on here, about them sending me a picture cause I never did got..

Lindsy:No I didn’t ask, I keep forgetting…

TOmmy: Cuase they said in their letter there was a picture and there was not one in there. They took the letter from Misty out and the picture. I know it was probably just…our littel family portrait, of me my mom, my brother and Misty. e all took together. It’s probably the one it was.

Lindsy: I don’t know,Tommy, it might not be cause Misty has one.

Tommy: I know they said they was sending me a picture and I never got it.

Lindsy: Yea, you know what yourmom did? I gave her our wallet sized picture…

TOmmy: I know, you told me….

Lindsy: She sent it to Misty…

Tommy: I know…

Lindsy: Now I don’t have one.

Tommy: That’s BS! You got the big one.

Lindsy: But still, I like the ..I liked having that little wallet one..

Tommy: I know…

Lindsy: Cause Layala…Layla would be like, you know…mommmy, daddy, Chelsea, (Laughs)

Tommy: I know…

Lindsy: (continues) Nanna, …yep…sux…yea, your dog batter not do anything in my hosue today.

Tommy: (Laughs) You need to start taking him out, even if it’s raining you goota take him out. He’s gonna go to the bathroom one time or other today. You gotta take him out.

Lindsy: Yea, but it’s been like..Tom, it’s like flooded outside.

Tommy: I know but still..

Linsdy: For real…

Tommy: still it’s your….you gotta take him out side..

Lindsy: I’ll see…I’ll close his uh…his leash in the sliding glass door & let him go outside (laughs) so I don’t have…

Tommy: He’ll break that d@mn door down…gonna have to get cha rain coat ( laughs)

Lindsy: My friend’s calling me…

Tommy: Is he?…Well, answer it!

Lindsy: Can’t…can’t have ?? here…

Tommy: Well, I’m glad you come to see me, I was worried you weren’t gonna make it.

Lindsy: No…I was gonna make it..

Tommy: Who’s gonna put in…what what you’re grandpa and Willard talking about getting you a new motor to put in the van?

Lindsy: They’re talkin about it…but (clears throat) they said if my breaks comming then maybe we should just wait. Cause it’s driveable in town.

Tommy: Yea…

Lindsy: Cuz it only goes like 40 mph…(laughs) the speed limit

TOmmy: Yea, (laughs) I..I hope it don’t stop you from comming to see me man, but I’ll understand if it does.

Lindsy: It won’t…No it won’t…it won’t..I’ll figure it out.

Tommy: I love you….

Lindsy: I love you too baby…

Tommy: You need to get you some allergy medicine so the snot will go away…(Laughs)

Lindsy: I know….

Tommy: (Laughs again)

Lindsy: it’s awful…

Tommy: What time are you going to the gym tonight? Same time?

Lindsy: 6:00 – 6:30

TOmmy: You’re gonna go there at 6:30?

Lindsy: Yea…

TOmmy: Oh, alright…well, I might not be able to call ya…unless you keep your phone with ya.

Lindsy: we’re out …It’s only for an hour…

Tommy: Yea, love you…like 7:30 when you’re done..

Lindsy: yea!

Tommy: Alright, I’m waitin…might have…see it’s hard for me to get out of my cell because there’s so many people in here, if I don’t throw my towel up real quick…after shift change, I might not get out.

Lindsy: Well, just…I’ll keep my phone on me…

Tommy: Alright….

Lindsy: But if it you can…you try to call me after 7:30 I don’t want to miss my work out…

Tommy: I know…YOu’re so silly…you better not lose all your weight woman…

Lindsy: My boobs are getting smaller…

Tommy: You need to stop…

Lindsy: (Laughs)

Tommy: For real!…

Lindsy: (Laughs) They’re not, I’m just joking…(Laughs)

Tommy: You better not lose all your….I like you how you are.

Lindsy: (Laughs)

Tommy: (Laughs) So silly….

Linsy: (Still laughing) I think it’s no…I think it’s right now.

TOmmy: Oh yea?

Lindsy: Yea but I think it’s muscle, I’m nto trying to get skinny, skinny. I wanna gain muscle.

TOmmy: You…Women don’t need no d@mn muscles, ain’t tryin to have you Fn..all muscled out…You crazy..

Lindsy: Not like that! But like, maybe, some ..maybe like get some abs…that would be nice.

TOmmy: I don’t know… do push-ups all the time in here…all the time..

Lindsy: (Laughs)

Tommy: (laughs) got nothin else to do…(laughs)

Lindsy: (Laughs)

Tommy: Slap my card and do whatever number it says to do….

Lindsy: so funny….

Tommy: That’s really all I can do…I tried doing pull ups on the door when it’s closed but it’s kindo of hard.

Lindsy: why?

TOmmy: Because man, just…holding my fingers through these little squares and the Fn…my knees are hitting the doors …cra.. it don’t work.

Lindsy: (Laughs) That’s so…that’s funny.

Tommy: I need to shave, I missed shavin yesterday d@mn it.

Lindsy: You need to shave that front of it off…

Tommy: Why?

Lindsy: Cause I don;t like it…

Tommy: Well..(Laughs) I don’t like you going to the gym either…

Lindsy: (Hesitates) Well, then I guess you get to keep your little hair…

BOth: (Laugh)

Tommy: But…YOu know, you’ll be alright…

Lindsy: Yea..

Tommy: Just don’t loose too much…to wher ya…don’t be gettin all skinnied up…

Lindsy: I’m not…I don’t think I could get very skinny…I just want to feel good about myself too.

Tommy: Well, I know…I don’t know why you don’t anyways… (pause) Oh..

Lindsy: When I look good in a bathing suit then I’ll be happy…

Tommy: You do!

Lindsy: You think I do…

Tommy: Well why does it matter waht anybody else thinks?

Lindsy: It doesn’t…it matters what I think…That’s why I’m not listening to you (laughs) Cuz it doesn’t matter what you think (laughs)

Tommy: (Laughs)

Lindsy: No it does matter, but you know what I mean…you don’t like being fat…

Tommy: I’m not fat…

Lindsy: Yea but when I say 250 lbs – 225 lbs “Oh that’s too fat, that’s too fat”

Tommy: Yea, that is a little big…(laughs)

Lindsy: I like it…I like it when you’re big…

Tommy: I’m probably almost 200 lbs again…

Lindsy: Good!

Tommy: I’m pretty sure I probably am I’ve gained some weight since I started Fn getting commissary.

Lindsy: (Laughs) Good! ….then …

Tommy: I pull off some sh*t last night, God…(laughs)

Lindsy: Were you sick?

Tommy: My stomach was killin me…I get bored man, I’m just sittin there lookin at them tater chips and all that other sh*t and I’m like D@mn, I’m gonna eat somethin (Laughs)

Lindsy: You’re so funny…I haven’t had anything sweet since Saturday..

Tommy: Yea, that won’t last long…

Lindsy: I’ve been doing good….

Tommy: (Laughs)

Lindsy: But I can eat Jello, they…I have some sugar-free Jello

Tommy: Yea…

Lindsy: I can eat that…and I can eat cheese so I got those little string cheese thingies

Tommy: Oh Jesus…you’re silly….(laughs) Where they gonna get you a motor? They gonna buy you a brand new motor? or a used one?

Lindsy: I don’t know…I have no idea..

Tommy: well, the van there ain’t really much ofnothing wrong with it, it’s just the motor in it now…you know…

Lindsy: Yea, but he…

Tommy: It’s got a good body…

Lindsy: He told me though, that I ..eventually..we fix the motor and then the other stuff is gonna start happening too…he says….

Tommy: Naw that’s…

Lindsy: He says it’s just wear and tear…It’s just an old…I don’t want my van..hush!

BOth: (Laughs)

Tommy: I like the van…

Lindsy: It does really need a motor but…it…I don;t want the stupid thing..

Tommy: Yea, I know but..

Lindsy: A Nissan Ultima…you watch…

TOmmy: (laughs)

Lindsy: I found a couple of them on ebay for under $10,000…

Tommy: ( laughs hard) Where you gonna get that kind of money at?

Lindsy: I’m gonn figure it out…but don’t worry cops cuz I’m not gonna sell drugs..I’m no drug dealler (Laughs)

This was in Tommy’s stage of not knowing what story to go with. Misty is saying she’s gonna hurt two people and he knows one of them is him so he’s saying she’s a lier and she better not be telling no lies. He still is trying to point to the Mexican story of Ronald owing money to them but in the end he settles on telling the same story that Misty tells on Joe only denies being a part of it. If the story is true then Tommy had to of seem Haleigh get killed if he seen her get dumped. He’s mad at his sister so I don’t see that if Misty, Joe and he did this that he wouldn’t point a finger at his lying sister. Finger pointing starts and they always point back at the pointer. No, I don’t believe this I think Misty came up with the plausible guess that Haleigh was killed and dumped there by Joe and Tommy and there would be evidence of Joe in the water since it was his fishing spot and has history. Anyone could have thrown that rope in there at any time since she disapeared to set it up for later, same with the blocks. Or Joe used the blocks for the deer. I just can’t bring myself to believe this is true.

Tommy = two flushes an hour (with complaints)

Fido the Dog = 1 bathroom trip a day? (if even that)

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE!?!?!?

I find this HIGHLY UPSETTING.

Part 3 of transcription of above audio

Tommy: Neither am I …Never have been (drug dealer)

Lindsy: (Laughs) Yea but that’s whatt they consider you

Tommy: Well, they’re Fn stupid too, they Know I ain’t no drug dealer…they weren’t ryin to go after no drug dealers

Lindsy: I know…

TOmmy: It’s BS!!

Lindsy: I know

Tommy: But that’s all good ..just gave me time to get myself clean..

Lindsy: I love oyu

TOmmy: I love you too…I ain’t gonna lie, I mean sometimes I still have urges, I feel like, yea, I wish i had one of them thing but I don’t need it, I know I don’t.

Lindsy: Yea, Like see, if you were out though…

Tommy: I don’t know…I think I could resist it..

Lidsy: I don’t think you could…I don’t think you’re ready yet
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Tommy: I could resist it…I’ve been having some stupid dreams too…like dreamin I’m F’ed up n sh*t..I don’t know why the h*ll I do that…but I have…

Lindsy: That’s crazy…

Tommy: I had one last night ( Laughs) I woke up sweatin, I was like WTF?

Lindsy: What were you doing? Just…walkin around…

TOmmy: Just gettin high (Laughs) It was crazy..it was …I was wandering around with Tim, with my brother, of all people, he don’t do no…he don’t get high…I don’t know why I had that kind of dream but I did. It was weird…

Lindsy: The detectives are trying to tell Chelsea that you smoke crack…

Tommy: F them detectives! I don’t smoke no d@mn crack! I take pills!

Lindsy: they talk about you do powder too…

Tommy: F them! WHen they say that?!

Lindsy: They told…I don’t know…the otherday…

Tommy: Oh well! F them! DOn’t worry about what they say…(Laughs) I love ya!

Lindsy: (Laughs) Yea…good…good save Tom…real good save…

Tommy: Well, it is…I don’t do that kind of sh*t! I’ve don coke in the past, yea…That ain’t my drug of choice…not like pills….if I’m gonna spend my money to buy some drugs I’m gonna buy some pills….

Lindsy: QUit getting mad cause you can tell cause you start doing this…start movin…

Tommy: I like to move cause my d@mn back starts hurtin sittin on this Fn stool. .. I love ya

Lindsy: I can hear Your dad from way over here…

Tommy: He’s loud…(Laughs)He’s …big fat f*ck..(Laughs) His @ss is gettin big…(Laughs)

Lindsy: He does, he talks so loud…He’ll come in here talkin to Margo on the phone…

Tommy: Did he? (laughs)

Lindsy: People was lookin at us crazy…(Laughs)

Tommy: I wrote them a letter and they ain’t wrote me one back yet…

Lindsy: Who margo?

TOmmy: No, Nicki…

Lindsy: Nicki?

Tommy: Margo’s daughter…

Lindsy: I know who she is…No, I think your dad said that they wrote you..

Tommy: Yea…they..They did, they wrote me one letter…Nicki did…and I wrote her back. she told me to write her and she’d write me back…I like getting mail…

Lindsy: I know, I gotta start writing you more…

Tommy: I know you do…Pfft…I don’t even get probably a letter a week from ya…I got a stack of letters and most of them aren’t from you (laughs hard)

Lindsy: Who are they from>?

Tommy: MY mom, dad, my nanny, Aunt Vicki, Tim & Chelsea, man I got some from you…but I think there’s more from other people then from you…

Lindsy: well, I love you…shut up

Tommy: I love you too…

Lindsy: I’ll start…I’ll start writing you more

Tommy: You need ta quit feeling so lonley..

Lindsy: I do feel lonley…

Tommy: I know…I wish you wasn’t…

Lindsy:I don’t like being by myself….so…

Tommy: Yea, well…you’re gonna have to be for a little while probably…but it’s ok…It’s work out..

Lindsy: Yea (weakly)

Tommy: I’m sick of argueing with you when I talk to you on the phone cuz it a..it makes me feel bad, I’m tellin ya that right now…

Lindsy: Well, you get a…you get….

Tommy: Go up to my room and just Fn…agghh…you know?

Lindsy: Yea, but it just seems like every time I talk to you on the phone, there is a something…you’re doing something…

Tommy: Well,…Yea, I wish they would have put me in a rehab…that’s what I need, I know that…but those F*ckers probably ain;t gonna want to do that…that’s what I really need. Send me to a rehab for a Fn year or two if that’s what they want…

Lindsy: (hesitates) yep…I know I’d rather say my husband is in rehab then say my husband is in prison…

Tommy: I know…Well, you’ll probably be saying one of em…Sounds bad but I guess things could be worse…at least I’m alive, you’re alive, kids are ..we’ve got good healthy kids…

Lindsy: Healthy kids, not good kids all the time…(Laughs)

Tommy: They’re good…they’re just kids…kids are gonna be kids…You were the same way when you were a kid…I know I was…I was rowdy….

Lindsy: I don’t think I…I think…

Tommy: Sh*t, I was in all kinds of trouble…(Laughs)

Lindsy: Not me…I’d of been in trouble by my parents…

Tommy: So when you gonna come see me again? Tuesday?

Lindsy: MmmHmmm (positive)

TOmmy: ALright…Good…

Lindsy: Yep…I love you….

Tommy: I love you…

Lindsy: What’s that sitting at that table around you?

Tommy: Pencils…that they still ain’t sharpened…

Lindsy: Oh, it’s blurry, that’s why I asked

Tommy: I forgot..I’m glad you said that because I forgot my only two pencils are sitting out there on the table…(Laughs)

Lindsy: (Laughs)

Tommy: I wrote you like a 4-page letter last night and…

Lindsy: Holy Crap…

Tommy: and sent it out…Well, front & back, you know…

Lindsy: Oh…

TOmmy: It’s like 3 ..it’s actually six front & back…3 ..3 pages front & back…

Lindsy: Dang….

Tommy: And them MFers better send it to ya! and not keep it, it has nothing to do with anything!

Lindsy: (laughs)

Tommy: I don’t know why they gotta look at all my letters, it’s BS! but…

Lindsy: You’re dad’s over there saying “Keep believing” ..”Keep believin in God”..You can hear the whole conversation….

TOmmy: She’s a little liar…

Lindsy: Huh???

Tommy: She’s a liar…

Lindsy: Oh, I know she is…

Tommy: She’ll get what’s comming to her…

Lindsy: Yep…

TOmmy: Says it in the Bible…

Lindsy: (hesitates) Yep…

Tommy: I worte the verse down for ..uh..them to send to her..not to send her but to tell her when they talk to her..

Lindsy: You did?…

TOmmy: About liars…mmm hmmm (affirmative)

Lindsy: Good!

Tommy: It’s Revelations 21: 7..or 6-8 something like that…

Lindsy: Alright, I’ll have to look it up…(pause) I love you…

Tommy: I love you too…

Animal Control needs to swing by Lindsy’s place and get that dog. It will be really
easy to spot him – he’ll be carrying a picket
sign that says: HEY BUTT FACE I NEED TO GO OUT
GO WEE WEE… he’s probably taken up chain smoking Newports!

The selfishness is simply appalling. You know the kids can’t get treated much better.

Pinky, LOL re the dog….Holly Gmom, THANK YOU!!!!!!

mlee, that’s what I was thinking as soon as I read it, WOW!

Self promotion OJ

Come On said,in May 6th, 2010 at 7:14 am Self promotion OJ
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wrong! its where the info is that jan wanted..
but theres some stuff about cobra there that seem to make that site verbotten here.

DQ, I think that charge was for endangering child/ren by running a meth lab in a home. I posted link to the statute on my twitter: ellFlorida.

OK, Becky, DQ, mlee, I’m still not getting your theory.

Do you think the Mexicans are hiding Haleigh?

[Personally, I think that’s what Ron told Misty & her family and is just B/S. Dunno if Ron’s lying or stupid.]

Are you thinking Crystal is hiding Haleigh?

[That would be quite a stretch for me to buy into.]

Are you thinking that the Croslins are hiding Haleigh?

[Nah, surely that’s not what you’re thinking.]

What are y’all thinking?

thx

I don’t believe that theory
Sorry for the confusion. I was asking mlee why they are hiding Haleigh…I should have separated his post from my question. I believe Ron killed Haleigh and Misty is covering for him and Teresa is covering for both of them..I never fell for his crocodile tears.Teresa knows exactly what happened. Give that sorry excuse for a mother and grandmother a lie detector test to find the answers IMO

Tobias in reference to your 5/5/2010 6:17pm post. I agree with you. You mentioned the road rage with Charles Jones. Perhaps CJ was telling the truth about Ron haveing a small gun abd wanting to kill him. Levi told us on JVM that CJ told him that Misty told CJ that the drug people have Haleigh. Misty may have told CJ perhaps if she were high and then realized it later and told Ron that she did. CJ said on the Levi show that he has spoken with LE numerous times. It is my guess that it was CJ that told LE about Misty and Ron selling drugs.jmo

WHERE IS HALEIGH?

Do we have evidence of her being harmed?

Do we have evidence of her being killed?

Do we have a motive?

Do we have a murder weapon?

Do we have a body?

I think we have a “MISSING CHILD” and a whole bunch of liars that could care less about anything but themselves.

JenM said,in May 6th, 2010 at 9:16 am
I think we have a “MISSING CHILD” and a whole bunch of liars that could care less about anything but themselves
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So true, JenM. Just what IS the “evidence” that warranted Haleigh’s case being declared a homicide by Sheriff Hardy. I certainly hope it wasn’t the words of proven LIARS and there is something significant. LE needs to put up or shut up about just what happened or where Haleigh is, imo. If they finally have that 5% piece of the puzzle they’ve talked about, then why no arrests ❗

What if Ron was in on a sting? He wanted Tommy and Misty in jail so the cops could make them talk? Funny how there were no arrests of those selling them the drugs. I think if it was a “real” drug bust, they would of went after the bigger suppliers that were supplying Misty, etc.. That’s why we never hear from Ron in jail and they don’t suspect him and never have. The focus has been on Misty and Tommy. But even Misty points at Tommy. However, Tommy seems to want to send us in Ron’s direction, Misty’s, Joe’s and whoever else he can blame. He tries to convince us that he knows exactly what he does when he is high on pills! Also, seems that when the focus went to Tommy and then he failed his LDT, things have gone real quiet lately. No news reports, no jail leaks, no outside phone calls in from the family, no recent tapes, etc. I think they got their person. And I also think Lyndsy knows who did it too and she is getting divorced because of it. Pretty simple.

When Grandma Sykes was on Nancy Grace she said as soon as Grandma Hollars told her about the search at the river she and Teresa went out there to the woods and looked around. Isn’t that tampering with evidence? Seems strange Ron got a tattoo of Teresa.

Lucy,I think you are absolutely correct!

Stilllucy, I think you are right. I think Hank and Lisa helped, and that is how they were able to get their court date moved up and got off with a little probation and no jail time. Hank was supposed to be in court the same day as Tommy and LE didn’t want that to happen. We will hear something soon.I am thinking by Tommy’s court date next week.

They keep saying Misty is the key. Well who is the door??? I pray we will know SOON!!!

If my child was missing I would welcome any help I could get. I hope LE is working on this case as hard as we are.

We are the epitome of the ArmChair Detective Squad! LOL
Just hoping that this new administration took a fresh look at all the evidence from the beginning and that’s what helped get this case moving again.
Justice for HaLeigh, hopefully soon.

It hasn’t always been a popular view on this blog to point the finger at Ron but IMO you guys are right on target. I really think something is about to break in this case (I’m praying). LE got these jokers off the street and behind bars and they are starting to crack. Let the chips fall where they may and let the guilty pay! JUSTICE FOR HALEIGH! WE are Haleigh’s family….as her blood family abandoned her a long time ago! 👿

oh,lol btw we are waiting till tomorrow to go to ky! you ain’t seeing a ghost or an imposter,lol

stillucy…yes, were a merry band of armchair detectives but we’ve got more love for Haleigh than her family EVER had for her! Truly sad! We’ve spent more hours worrying, wondering and investigating this missing child than her own family ever THOUGHT of spending! And none of us are looking for handouts, new cars, minutes on our phones, new computers, trips to NY, free room and board, money for snacks, fame or fortune. These people are the lowest forms of life! Blood sucking, money grubbing, back stabbing, child endangering, drugged up, dope smokin’, self-serving, lazy ass, thieving pack of crackhead liars is what they are! ALL of them! 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿

JB you are right! It is a shame!! I am praying we aill soon hear something! I honestly believe Ron is involved.
I read a post talking about Crystal not knowing Haleighs school schedule. I had to laugh, because in the article of AH ron said he picked up Haleigh at 2:30pm on the 9th of Feb. Well I immediately thought well Ron does not know his own daughters school schedule and perhaps that is why Crystal didn’t. Haleighs school did not even dismiss until 2:45pm. How in the world did he pick her up from the bus stop when she had not even gotten out of school yet!!!!! Heck even Teresa Neves said she did not get off the bus until 3:30pm.

There’s the JB we’ve grown to know and love. Sure did miss your insight and opinions.

JB, I totally agree!!!!!!

Tommy was in 1 of the videos,that’s why only 1 charge of trafficking. Can’t remember the exact date, sorry.

I read at AH that granny Hollars told AH that she is putting in a bid on the reward money (along with others). Who are the “others” I wonder?

Also read that Misty has said that she was IN on the gun stealing thing with Joe and Tommy…They were supposed to split the money from the sale of the gun three ways. Was Misty really that angry with Ron that she would steal from him? She has seemed overly committed and loyal to Ron! (Too bad she didn’t have those same loyalties to a defenseless 5 YO child!) GRRRRR!

CathyJo….That would have been the first time Ron did ANYTHING honest! LOL

Amen Sister Jb!
and listen to how calm he was talking to the uc about Haleigh,its BS!

AN HONEST LIVING,ITS LIKE HE WAS SAYING MY 2ND JOB AIN’T HONEST,LMAO!

jb,omg i have always thought that…the reason was remember m told lisa to check the pawn shops for her camera???
pawn shop was the first thought in her head,and honest i thought then,misty stole it,hid it in the culvert…ron went off so she had to look?? for it under a board,rofl!
probably gonna pawn it for drugs!

i didn’t hear this tho,when did misty say she helped?

Granny Hollars also says that Misty has been a liar all of her life. I think the gun stealing deal is a diversion. Probably a bit of truth to it but nothing to do with HaLeigh going missing. And no matter how much loyalty Misty had and still has for Ron, she is vindictive and totally coniving.
Did anyone hear Granny Hollars say that when Misty was on her 10 visit after HaLeigh went missing, that Misty referred to HaLeigh as being dead? Please, I know I heard her say that on Levi’s show when she was talking about the gun deal. Can anyone verify this? Not trying to start a rumor, just looking for verification.

Somebody f’kd with the wrong people. That is what seems obvious to me.

Are you kidding! Ron got a tat of Theresa?????

Thought he got one of Haleigh – but his mother?

What guilt brought that on — is my first thought.

She has had to have ‘saved’ him from something is my second thought.

And none of you want to know my third!

Ann

his mom didn’t even raise him did she? he had ill feelings toward her………right?

Yep, he sure does have a tat of TN!

Quote: CathyJo63 said,in May 6th, 2010 at 11:59 am omg,are u serious,a tat of TN? OMG please tell me thats not true!

YOU ARE JOKING,WHERE ON HIS BODY? NOT that i care but i am wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy curious now?

HANG ON SLOOPY!
HOW DO YA MAKE A DEVIL FACE,I COULD SPIT NAILS!

Isn’t the tat on his chest. It’s old isn’t it?

Wow, still in shock over the Theresa tattoo!!

Maybe she looks really, really young after Nancy Grace got her that facelift or chemical peel, or whatever it was, so that she would look better (and more believable?) on Grace’s show. Don’t watch hostile Nasty Nancy – just can’t take her abusive behavior.

Has anyone seen Theresa lately and does she look ‘good’?

Ann

(Yes, OJ, I do like gossip! lol)

Oh contraire, Ron is very intelligent, just ask Teresa……I’m thinking his choice of the Pillbillies may be bringing this intelligent mastermind down. Good ole Ron didn’t give them enough credit. Criminals……..

i love gossip,lol my husband hated when i gossiped or got nosy,I always told him,hey.I am female and entitled to that!

Maybe the tattoo is where that big bandage was on his neck?

In one of his early interview with NBC (think), the one where he falls over on the ground in front, it clearly shows his neck and at that time he had no bandage. I don’t see a sign of anything in that area – so have to investigate when the bandage appeared, seemed to me to be early on as well.

Ann

I know these people are obvious liars, obvious drug users, obvious drug dealers, obvious theives, and reportedly involved in guns, prostitution and gangs. However, I can’t really, truly see Ron or Misty harming Haleigh at all. Just trying to take a clear look at it without all the garbage in it.

I think Tommy and Joe are a different story. Joe is a sex offender, and Misty reports that Tommy and Joe have assaulted her (which I fully believe)! I think one or the other or both are involved. I think Misty was passed out. I think she suspects Tommy or Joe. But not sure, so at first, Misty and Ron together may think it was someone else. Ron (who probalby wouldn’t react like the rest of us with a missing child, given his history) thinks right off the bat of Revenge and revenge only!! He probably knows Haleigh is dead because he knows how these people work. He can’t imagine anything else with Misty’s story. So, he protects Misty and Jr.. He stays under the radar. He knows that Haleigh won’t be found, so don’t waste the money or time. He will find this person on his own. (that is his mentality and his way of life….not ours). He doesn’t want anyone snooping around, because then his secrets get found out. He would have to incriminate himself to incriminate others.

So, as time goes on, he starts figuring that maybe Tommy did this and Misty is slowly remembering this part too. Ron goes as far as to divorce Misty over this. Maybe he hears that Misty and Tommy are dealing drugs again. The police hear it too and use Ron to get Misty and Tommy in jail to get them to talk. It works. Now Misty is blaming Tommy and Joe more and more. Tommy fails his LDT and things go silent in LE all week so far. Ron is hoping that Misty is telling the truth and that she hasn’t been threatened.(which says to me that he still has faith in her, but needs to know the truth about his daughter).

Although I do like thinking about all the possible scenarios……Ron or Misty have no reason to harm Haleigh, period.

Ann, I heard or read that the bandage was from a mole removal or something.

Sorry, obviously it was a large check in the amount, but what I meant was in size — kind of like those prize money checks which are not authentic but are meant for publicity purposes only.

A

SORRY Jen i don’t buy it,too simple for the mess they’ve created!

right Lucy!
brb call my daughter real quick!

The early stories was a boil. Believe it was Theresa in her smooth manner that explained his susceptibility to boils and how this one had to be aspirated.

Strange that nothing, not even a pimple shows on his neck on the 10th (I am assuming the 10th) in that footage (will try and find link) when he bends his head to the ground in front of him.

And, no, I didn’t see a mole there either.

Of course living in the tent and not being clean could lead to blackheads which do cause boils, but it is a process.

Notice that contrary to the early stories, Ron doesn’t seem to have had a boil since — for one that is supposed to be susceptible to that sort of thing.

A

I need to go find where I saw the clip of the tat. When I find it I will post it.

CathyJo at 12:20
I agree I’ve pretty much ruled Joe out at this point it would be to easy for LE to arrest him for something plus they all point to him

According to Granny Hollars, Joe has never been arrested for anything to do with sexual assault. The only accusations of that have come from Misty and we know how much we can believe her or not or do we or not?
Joe’s criminal history does not include sex crimes. He is on probation now.

I posted the clip of the tat @ 12:25

Thanks BA, I missed your post

ann said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 12:09 pm

Wow, still in shock over the Theresa tattoo!!

Maybe she looks really, really young after Nancy Grace got her that facelift or chemical peel, or whatever it was, so that she would look better (and more believable?) on Grace’s show. Don’t watch hostile Nasty Nancy – just can’t take her abusive behavior.

Has anyone seen Theresa lately and does she look ‘good’?

Ann

(Yes, OJ, I do like gossip! lol)
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facelift/chemical peel? How about professional makeup artists. TJ was there that day and talked about it,plus she colored her hair..If it was a facelift when did she go in, where were the bandages..pfft.
She’s been on tv a few weeks ago and looks the same as she did months ago and a year ago..

Just read where Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy’s son was arrested and charged with the sale of methamphetamine, possession of listed chemicals used to manufacture methamphetamine, maintaining a drug vehicle, possession of drug paraphernalia and child neglect. Imm’s bond was set at $7,020.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/23475927/detail.html

Sheriff Hardy said he’s saddened by the arrest of his son, but has directed his detectives and correctional officers to treat his son in the same manner as any other individual charged with these crimes, according to a sheriff’s office news release.

The participants of the fake search at San Mateo were: John Marcus Sheffield (HaLeigh’s maternal grandpa), Connie Sheffield (HaLeigh’s step-grandma), Marie Griffis (HaLeigh’s grandma), Ruby Kanger (HaLeigh’s step great-grandma), Jeremiah Regan (unemployed self-proclaimed public relations specialist), John Regan (self proclaimed minister and law enforcement impersonator), William Eugene ‘COBRA’ Staubs (licensed private investigator/bounty hunter), and Judy Lucia (dog handler and legitimately concerned citizen.)

Lucy, I saw it somewhere about Joe having a charge of sexual assault in his past. He is supposedly listed as a sex offender and that is how he got brought into this whole thing. I will see if I can find it somewhere.

NG never does discuss why Ron was playing her for a fool about the divorce and that he was with Misty not just for the drug deals but sleeping with her. NG is biased as far as Ron goes and I just dont get it. jmo

Joseph E. Overstreet only has a juvie record for car theft. Joshua Overstreet is another cousin from Michigan and he has the other charges and is in jail now. One family is Charles, Joshua, and Brandon(the one with the picture of him and misty on his MS. The other Overstreets are Kayla, Kristi, and Joseph. Dont know who their fathers are but I believe Uncle Buddy or Billy is the father of the ones from Mich. Misty talks about him to GHollars. jmo

If you look the Overstreets from Mich look more threatening than Joe. Ron would be way out of his league messin with these boys. I dont think they have anything to do with the Croslins except Brandon at one time. These guys have records and prison tats. I can see why Denny got the family gang idea but I think they see the Croslins as we do liars, tramps and thieves.jmo

ROFL JB,Yea beat that one why don’t ya?

okkkkkkkk,i am sorry but yall know me,i cannot hold it back this time,but okAY,I can just see me now with my Adads name on my chest “Darwin” mmmmmmmmmmHUH gives new meaning to whose ye daddy,omg ewwwwwwwwwwwww

Tobias,Yes she is! very unprofessional too!

I’d hate to venture to answer that Tobias!

one of the sykes is a pervert to arent they,an aunt??? i thought!

I feel NG could careless about him its her ratings and image that she worries about and I think when it all goes down she will be spinning a new story for her fans. I cant wait, I may actually tape it so I can watch it over and over. ROFL JMO

Madg! Ron showed Cobra the ba$#s we thought he had,lol who knows!

for once OJ,it wouldn’t shock me,hey i might start liking you!!!!! rofl

right but it makes you wonder if ron knew him? lol

youre right tho Tobias,Ive seen what i thought were perfect families who had one go the wrong way so it aint ALWAYS about that!

tobias said,in May 6th, 2010 at 1:52 pm I believe he is a step son and I dont think it matters not everyone has control of what adult step kids do. jmo
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WRONGG!! real son, took his stepfathers name.

just kinda impersonal,Resides!

OJ, Okay now I see he was raised by his mother and Stepfather instead of Sheriff Hardy. Makes sense now. He evidently thought of his step dad as his real dad so he changed his name. I dont really see Hardy having much to do with raising him then. jmo

OJ, Jeff Hardy’s sons bond is only $7,500, but he seems to have done much worse than Croslins/Cummings/Sikes whose bonds were set much higher.

He’s charged with: child neglect, manufacturing methamphetamine, methamphetamine sales, maintainig a drug vehicle, possession of drug paraphanelia, and possession of listed chemicals used to manufacture methamphetamine.

Bond is only $7,500!

His age is interesting – wonder where he grew up?

Ronald is 26 (10/29/83) – were they good buddies being in the drug business and all?

Was/is Ronald covering for some supplier such as this guy and that is why he is sent home without a spanking for his previous drug charges and won’t tell on anyone?

Or, did he tell?

Wonder if the detectives changed in covering this case? Must research that.

Just my personal opinions.

A

OH GOD,incase someone comes in and don’t know,i say i luv u cuz lindsey and tommy say it after they get mad! i luv u!

I don’t buy that the not knowing. I also feel that there is something wrong when their bail is way lower, especially when a child is involved. I’m disgusted, I must go throw-up!

If misty is innocent of the haleigh disappearance why did she fail the ldt before she was arrested on the drug charges?

His age is interesting. Ronald Cummings is also 26 (10/31/83)!

Did this guy grow up and go to school in Satsuma?

Seems they both would have known each other being in the same trade, one a supplier and the other a distributor. It is a small town.

Always wondered how anyone could have the arrest history and charges that Ronald Cummings had and not do serious time. He always seemed to be sent home with less than a spanking (which he is so fond of doing to people, including Haleigh, who doesn’t meet his standards of behavior).

Wonder if Ronald is now talking – giving up the “Mafia”.

He did say at the virgil to Chad and someone else that he was 75% certain of who took Haleigh. Of course he later denied it.

Everyone is a liar but Ronald.

What stellar guys! $750.00 isn’t much to get a drug manufacturer back on the streets.

My personal opinions only

A

I could careless if Misty and Rons or Tommys bail is too high. We all would be mad as heck if they had low bonds and were out running around.jmo

tobias – thank you. They are where they should be and where everyone else should be in an effort to clean up that community and give the little children a chance in life.

A

Selling pills and manufacturing meth are 2 different worlds, really. I don’t recall hearing Ron and that bunch ever being involved in anything more than the pills, a little cocaine now and then, and marijuana. Meth is a world all by itself.

Come on, Hardy’s son and 2 of the others are charged with MANUFACTURING AND SELLING METH but their bonds are only $7,520!

The third (Scott Hood) has a higher bond of $16,528 because he has two possession charges(meth and a controlled substance).

$7,520 bond! Dang! Croslins/Cummings/Sykes WEREN’T smart at all! If they’d manufactured meth, and took the children with them to sell it, their bonds would have been much lower!

Cj,

I think so too, but I am wondering what people who think she is innocent can reconcile the ldt’s and the innocence of haleigh’s disappearance. Seems like it would be hard to do.

And then there is her brother, TC, who fails them too.

Amen Jason,lol thats exactly right!!!!!!!!!!!!

In all honesty,I don’t think they’d pass on any drug Lucy..jmo

I luv u Jason,lol

imo.not to bring it up again but it is part of my life so…….but anyway my husbands killer got 6 mo in county jail…….not to mention my husband was disabled too but i have seen ppl arrested here for weed and got a yr flat!

just not right!

I for one will keep an eye on the docket but for now I am more concerned with the issue at hand and I dont want to get sidetracked with other cases. This one is nutz enough for me. jmo

I am saying I agree,theyre where they need to be and high bonds too but also meth making and kids involved?? he should have a high bond too!

good way to put it Jason!good Job!

right Ann,and often sellers won’t use b/c of profit,or they’ll take cheaper drugs and sell the expensive ones to keep their own habits up!

beautiful*adams (cent) said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 2:22 pm

I don’t buy that the not knowing. I also feel that there is something wrong when their bail is way lower, especially when a child is involved. I’m disgusted, I must go throw-up!

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I agree!!!

Beautiful, and Treece: That burns me, too. A 2 year old in the car . . .

I have heard it is very easy for that stuff to explode,i dunno…..Thank God but i can imagine!

Hope Sykes should have been sent to ‘boot camp’ when she was first arrested at age 18 (prior to her arrest in January).

But, no – they let her walk to continue her wayward behavior.

Of course she wasn’t going to straighten up and fly right after her first offenses – they did nothing to curtail her behaviors – just sent her back on the street.

Jason,

If bond is $7,500 then $750 gets them out (Misty taught me to do the calculation).

Agree – in comparison with, there seems to be someting wrong.

They should have a high bail one would think since it is where it all starts, the manufacturing.

What’s with the two year old in the car – do you have a link to this arrest?

Thanks.

A

He told Lyndsy on the tape that he doesn’t do crack. Thats silly!

Ann, glad to hear Misty helped you out there with that math calculation!

First Coast News on the arrest:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=155685&catid=3

Is the two year old Hardy’s grandchild?

dunno how a parent can’t know that?

jen,he told her he don’t do coke either but we know better!they know they’re being recorded!

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100506/ARTICLES/100509617/1118?Title=Putnam-sheriff-s-son-arrested-on-drug-charges

Link to Hardy’s son’s arrest

LFlorida said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 7:49 am

[Dunno if Ron’s lying or stupid.]

Yes.

Remember Cobra telling Tim Holmseth about how mean police were to Teresa Neves?

If Jeff Hardy didn’t even know the illegal activity his son was involved in, how the hello can Haleigh’s parents/grandparents depend on him to find out what happened to Haleigh?

Simon, good thing you kept Haleigh in the news. If you didn’t, PCSO would have dropped the investigation long ago.

And, yes – YOU ARE the one who kept her in the news.

I have to agree with ya again Jason!
Alot of people said this is the best place for following the case!

Amen to that Jason!

I couldn’t find anything on Haleigh until I happened upon this site.

Thank you Simon – you are fair and show no biases in your editorials. Refreshing.

A

Yes…thanks Simon! I love you.

Lucy,then why is Hardy’s sons lowhis job is manufacturing meth?

First time Joshua was CAUGHT?

I don’t wanna waste my time on him but just saying,how is he different? manufacture and a child involved inside the vehicle,and kids breathe that crap!

I’M not even saYING THAT tOBIAS,AT ALL! mY CONCERN IS HIS BOND? ONLY

These ppl get off too easy then they become what we are dealing with now!

I don’t pretend to even know anything about the Sheriff’s sons’ case other than that he was arrested. I’m following HaLeigh’s case and these morons that are responsible for her disappearance. Whatever happens to the Sheriff’s son, he deserves. Sounds like Putnam Co. has some serious drug issues down there. Since it was the Sheriff’s son, another agency may have been handling the investigation. The Sheriff may not have even known about the investigation. Or maybe the Sheriff has been just a little busy with something else, HaLeigh…….Are we saying “I love you” at closing of our statements? Might of missed that.

Bad timing for the sheriff’s son too, because he won’t be able to give him special treatment just because that’s his son. Hope Sykes surely did not get special treatment. The Croslin’s and the Cumming’s will sue, and well they should if he gets special treatment.

Obviously, Jeff Hardy doesn’t want to bail his son out for public relations reason. At age 26, I doubt Joshua just began dealing drugs recently.

ty Tobias!

Time for Jeff Hardy to resign.

Marie, Crystal, Annette, Teresa should demand an outside agency take over the investigation.

Lucy,still tho,manufacturing…..CHILD!

Must be a * inept drug task force in Putnam County for the sheriff to not know!

They didn’t start manufacturing meth just yesterday!

Jason, they are just as capable as being guilty and suspect as anyone else, thats why they wont insist on it. Especially Crystal. She is definitely NOT ruled out in my book. She is a sneaky, lying skank and has a criminal record for lying to get revenge on someone for a felony charge. I don’t trust her at all.

Jason, how do you know Hardy knew about his son and the drugs? You DON’T. Could be true but without facts it is just rumor. If the two weren’t speaking for years it is VERY possible Hardy didn’t know.

As I said before, if the son WASN’T arrested and we found out about the drug manufacturing THEN I’d say “Hang Hardy High”. But the son WAS arrested and WILL face justice. What more does anyone want?

Ann, I checked criminal records/Putnam for surname Imm – found a Andrew and Howard; but no Joshua Troy Imm.

I’m checking for the others:

Scott Charles Hood, age 34
Johanna Leigh Smith, age 26
Amanda Ashley Tomlinson, age 22

If anyone needs to be in protective custody, it is the Sheriff’s son! JMO

Jason…I live in the same town as both my brother and sister, as well as my parents. I have TONS of cousins, aunts, uncles, etc., living here too. I don’t see my brother and his family but maybe twice a year. Same with my sister. I may go several years without seeing some of my other family members. I couldn’t tell you if they were cooking meth, printing counterfeit bills, running a brothal, smugging illegal aliens or were joining Al Quaida for Pete’s sake.

Okay, here we go,

http://public.psco.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=760611&IMG=61111

Degrees as listed are:

First is an F – Second is S, Third T, Fourth F, etc.

He has three felonies – Two second offences and one third; and the misd. are either first or fourth (I don’t know the difference in those two).

A

If there was real money offered by LP and/or TM I don’t believe Ronald would have refused it unless he was in fear of SOMETHING. Guy like Ron would never have been so magnanamous aslo refuse that kind of cash. He’d be day dreaming about how fast he could multiply by drug sales etc. I just don’t believe it on the surface. ALSO, I heard awhile ago that Ron has had about 9 previous narcotics related charges that he has done ZERO time on. There is only one plausible explanation for this volume, he’s a career snitch. Lot’s of drug dealers don’t take kindly to this, trust me, all this talk of :giving the kid up” makes me wonder if they hid Haleigh hidden out somewhere to protect her life. Suspicious as hell.

OJ’s glove said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

this is like the movie “12 angry men”..
your all finally starting to come around to my way of thinking.

—

With you, the movie Groundhog Day by Bill Murray comes to mind. lol

I know I’m not 1 of OJ’s 12 angry men!
Go PCSD! I’m for Justice!

AND, if you were the son (or other relative) of LE, you MIGHT have some better ideas how to HIDE your drug operation. You would CERTAINLY not do anything to tip them off. You might even learn of some of the drug task force activity in your area to keep you better informed so you COULD hide what you are doing. I just don’t see this need to trash Hardy for what his son did! The son WAS arrested and rightfully so! Hardy didn’t try to get him out of it. For all we know Hardy was the one that found out about it and sent LE to arrest him! People are jumping to ALL kinds of conclusions about LE and IMO it is WRONG to do so. Hardy has NOT tried to sweep this under the carpet, hasn’t tried to cover for his son nor has he tried to prevent the arrest of his son. So WHERE is this big “LE IS CORRUPT” conspiracy theory coming from? UGH! 🙄

stillucy! You got that right sista’…GO LE! JUSTICE FOR HALEIGH!

1000000% agreed Lucy! all about justice!

Oh Dear!

laurainfl….well, if Ron didn’t want anyone poking around he might refuse the money. LP offered $500,000 to help in the search. That would mean bringing in more searchers, more investigators, more dogs, more people poking around in his business. If he knew Haleigh was already dead, obviously knew the money couldn’t bring her back and knew that if people started digging they would find out about his crimes and perhaps his involvement in his child’s death….he might be inclined to turn down the money. He wasn’t going to be handed cash. It would have been put into an account and used to pay searchers, investigators, etc.

And if Haleigh’s life was threatened by drug thugs, why would Ron only hide Haleigh? If these drug thugs were coming after Haleigh but couldn’t find her as you suggest, wouldn’t it be logical for them to just grab Jr? I doubt they would care WHICH child they grabbed. I guess anything is possible with these yahoos but just sayin’…..JMO

Jeff Hardy, it’s 11 pm. Do you know where your children are?

No? Oh, well that probably explains why you don’t know where Haleigh is.

CathyJo…ROFLMAO – GET BACK IN HERE! NO sneaking off! LOL

Stillucy…yeah, I know, I know….I just hate to see everyone turning into sheep and blindly following him off the dang conspiracy cliff! LOL 😆

Jeff Hardy and Misty have alot in common. I DON’T KNOW.

http://www.richardhornsby.com/criminal/guide/penalties.html

corrected.

A

Sheriff didn’t see the illegal operation his own son had – UNBELIEVABLE!

Jason, I believe this will all be cleared up by TJ lets wait before we hang Hardy for something his son did. jmo

Actually, Joshua could have blown up the entire block!

Now I know why Haleigh has not been found.

‘Anit nobody been lookin’.

Thats right Jaba!

Humpty Dumpty Did NOT FALL!
He was PUSHED!

All the money offered is being offered with conditions.

Padilla had conditions for Misty which her lawyer would not allow her (if he continued to represent her) to agree to; Ronald Cummings check for $35,000 was for the reward to solve the case and is only valid upon solution of the case, if applicable to a particular person or persons who directly solve (other than LE, etc.) the Haleigh case.

Ronald Cummings I don’t think would ever leave money on the table.

While he was unemployed, homeless, he paid $400 for the tats. The $400 was probably hard earned money donated by a good hearted person listening to the sob story.

Also, I am not saying Hardy is or is not interjecting any influence in this case.

However, as a person that doesn’t take things thrown out without proof, I did want to see what the guidelines were, what this Joshua was charged with, and what his criminal background is (still searching that one).

Hardy does have influence and if you don’t believe he does than Peter Pan lives in the house next to you also.

He did say that as a family member he would support his son in whatever way a family should support.

It is obvious by that statement, to me, they are not estranged.

My opinions only – just like the gleam of light to reflect the truth.

IMO

A

aww are you ok OJ?? i am torry your womans a quack,lmbo i am messin….j/t

Jason…so be angry with Joshua and his ability to blow up the block. NOT Joshua’s father, mother, sister, cousin, aunt, uncle, OR brother’s friend’s sister-in-law’s uncle’s neighbor’s friend who is a COP!

JOSHUA is responsible for his crime. NOT his father. NOT his mother. NOT anyone BUT JOSHUA. The fact JOSHUA’s father is in LE has NO BEARING on JOSHUA’s CRIME OR JOSHUA’S decision to COMMIT the CRIME.

Should every preacher who has a daughter get pregnant out of wedlock be burned at the stake?

Should every parent of a criminal be subjected to endless criticism, attack and ridicule?

Heck, if we’re going down that road should we just say all Middle Eastern persons are members of Al Quaida, all African Americans are gang bangers and pimps, all whites are KKK, etc? Where do you stop? All LE with criminals in their family are also criminals and are most definitely corrupt? I don’t think so!

Bye Y’all… I don’t like the way this is going. If WE have issues with the low bond, then we do! It is low as hell, and it don’t seem right!

Have at it.

omg? were there homes checked,lol seriously?

i’d better clear up why i asked that,F bonbs will fly! lol
I mean Jason,when was he arrested,today and if so they already placed the 2yr old?

Its a tough question to answer, I bet.

I’ll ask it again, what about the flunking of polys before and after arrests?

Are misty and her brother in the very minute percent of folks who fail or pass polys due to some other circumstance?

I’m sure it can be answered in many ways, though straight innocence is a stretch of immense proportions.

Waiting on the silence,

Jaba.

Thats why this is important to me right now,the son i could care less who is his daddy,but a 2 yr old in a car and meth in the same sentence dont jive with me either!

Jeff Hardy is the HEAD of Putnam County LE. It is his job to KNOW what criminal activity is going on in the county, including his own family.

If he doesn’t know his son is manufacturing and selling meth, then how little does he know about the criminal activity of others in the county?

Jason,

Didn’t find Hood, but found lots of other Imms who seem to be relatives. Will keep looking.

A

sorry Jaba,too educated for me,lol i don’t know what some of them words even mean,honest! I leave the intelligence to most of you,thats why i am always sitting here like i own the place,lol

I hope i didn’t run JB and Adams off,if i did i never meant too! I like talking and even arguing about it sometimes when we all know one another so well and know we mean no harmn,just a crowd who is here for Justice for Haleigh! promise!!

Just sayin’: Incompetance. A small county, sheriff’s son running a meth lab out of a house, but the sheriff doesn’t know.

Totally clueless sheriff searching for Haleigh Cummings, uh-huh.

doesn’t mean i agree either,just whaddya do?

lol jason,
teds home bbs!

CJ,

When I see strong opinions posted emphatically about someones innocence but nothing concrete to back it up, it makes me wonder why? Is there no concrete, is there no plausible answer as to why someone fails ldt’s and so do other family members on the same case, knowing that the odds are stacked way against that, it makes me wonder if there is any more real reason for those emphatic lines than just to utter them for the shock factor.

Later, CathyJo! I didn’t get around to asking how your trip went. Let us know when you get back, OK?

lucy, He will be in with Ron. Tommy is in St. Johns with Misty. Ron is in Putnam where imms is being held.jmo

Hmm…remeber this? I wonder if there is a connection?

More Tapes From Ronald Cummings
Posted on April 22nd, 2010 http://www.bloggernews.net/124378
cobra: did you have to find her from some crack house the day before?

ron: no, did not. no, i did not.

cobra: why is everybody hating on you, dog?

ron: i can tell you right now what it is. crystal (unintelligible) …also she turned
right on national tv… she got paid by Geraldo 10,000 dollars to say I`m a confidential
informant.

cobra: are you?

ron: no, i am not.

cobra: alright.

ron: you know what?

cobra: huh? I AM. I AM… I work for (unintelligble) boys.

ron: well were gonna be um, everybody is gonna subpeoned to court
including john merchant who is the lead detective in this…

cobra: yeah, what did he do?

ron: he has no… he is the lead detective in this case.

cobra: which one got caught with some pot and coke in his car and got
pulled of the case and put on desk job, is that merchant?

ron: no

cobra: no, who was that, do you know who that was?

ron: i think that might have been chris middleton, i dont` know

JB –

you are totally over-reacting. No one has made, or close to making, the accusations you are asserting in your outburst.

However, from what I am reading and my thought process is to compare the method of arriving at appropriate bonds for the crimes involved in these two cases.

Ten prescription pills or the whatever it was, the infamous four were charged with, in my thinking, compared to two first degree felonies of manufacturing meth, selling meth to undercover agents, maintaining a drug vehicle, possessing drug paraphanilla, endangerment to a child, honestly can’t remember all of them is a little off center of the guidelines in the amounts of less than $10,000 while the infamous four received million dollar bonds down to quarter million, I believe.

Perhaps if ten or twelve more people were compared if might prove to be an scale that has a liberal movement, having nothing at all to do with favoring one over the other.

Lady Justice is presented blindfolded for a good reason and that is how it should be and how we, the public, should be sure it does.

Should they all have large bonds, yes they should, all of them. Only in that way is this small town of Satsuma going to get cleaned up for its little children to be handed a better life.

Then another and another town be cleaned up, and before long, perhaps finally a dent will be made in the revolving criminal door of these offenders.

But to hand manufacturers of this cancer a less than ten thousand dollar bond is beyond the pale.

Also, please don’t yell –

but, Tommy did mention in one of his tapes the Sheriff’s son was a pill head.

Oddly that tape has not been released. Perhaps Simon will be able to bring it to the surface for review.

Perhaps also it was the tape that alerted the LE to possible drug activity of Joshua Toy Imm and his cohorts.

My opinions only.

A

looking for Justice said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 11:08 am

She was picked up at 3:30 and Art made a typical boo boo or typo. The school gets out at 3:00 per their website and bus arrival is approximately 3:30.

You’re right. I stand corrected. They were sent back to St John’s, bet they love that.

Tommy mentioned the sheriffs son Jason……..oh Jason,we decided to wait till tomorrow evening to go to ky,lol

not alot,all really,lol

yw . it can get confussing when they move them for court and for the search. I dont get some of the comments being made when the Imms guy is still in jail reguardless of what his bail is. And a judge decided it not anyone else.
So do we replace all the judges in putnam too?
Hardy is not to blame for his estranged sons activities just like all of us we dont know what our Adult children do 24/7. And its just not fair to drag the guy through the mud.
Also would you who think the bail is to high for the imfamous 3 open the cell doors and let them go? Do you think that will find Haleigh?jmo I am leaving now keep hammering away at Hardy for being so focused on finding Haleigh that he didnt go over and force his way into his estranged sons home to see what he was doing. Oh and maybe it wasnt even in his home maybe it was in a friends home. jmo

I wonder who is jonsing for drugs with all these dealers in jail? Watch for it!

Also, if Ron hid her out to keep her from being “stole”, where would he hide her?

Let’s all go on down there and shake things up, lol – okay, I am totally kidding….

Who is actually investigating if the le is full of criminals!?

Lets see if Lyndsay opens up, as ron told her too! Please Lyndsay, you are the sanest one I have seen!

sigh…..
i luv u all…

i love you too Chrome and if you be good to my dog,I’ll love you more!
sorry guys…….lol some of us need a laugh now and again!

she ain’t looking to sane Chrome,lol Nowwww

Cathy, I am gonna be one peed off lady if LP buys her that Nissan Altima shewants so bad. I hope she has to drive that van she coudnt get the oil changed in. lol jmo

O God Tobias,where do i start clapping…..Bingo! sorry,but that girl is uhh errrr well uhhhh immature as a 1 yr old!

I think imvho……..the girl would use anybody!

So, when an employer fires a person from a job and that person turns around and screams discrimination, the employer quickly fires someone else of similar circumstances to make it look like they are being fair.

My point is this:
There are a lot of claims that they specifically set the 4 up to get caught, that they only targeted them because of Haleigh. Now I am sure there are a lot of Attorneys out there that are choppin at the bit to get ahold of that. In fact, that could be a reason in court to have some things thrown out. (Especially those high bails). So, to cover their arses, did the Sherriff say lets just go ahead and bust my stepson and his methlab, that will show everyone that we don’t care who it is. If they are doing drugs, then they are busted.
Maybe he needs to prove ‘impartiality’ and ‘non judgmental’ decisions. Maybe his butt could be on the line. Maybe 7,500 because that holds a lower bail than selling? I don’t know what the normal bails are. I do know it depends on the crime and many other variables. (including a risk factor of running).

Just food for thought.

Oh, that’s so silly! I love you too! Your so sexy.

Hell Tobias,my car smokes more than I do,wheres lp when ya need him!

Tobias,my bumper sticker says,honk if sommin falls off,lol

Here is the visit where Tommy says that the sheriff son is worst than him on them damn pills.

Quote:
Tommy C: See that damn sheriff, his son is worst than I am on them damn pills. The sheriff’s son, hes worst on those pills than I am.
around 5:05 on the tape: http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/2…4-2-9-10-d.htm

I personally like at the end of the tape when Tommy says “It’s not really Misty’s fault”.

Can this guy make up his mind or what? Oh wait, his mind is GONE!

I will be perfectly honest,i worry about what ppl think of me all the time but the truth is the truth and i know about it firsthand!
Tobias,i never said this……God i loved my husband with all my heart,i did!!!!! he was an alcoholic when i married him,i didn’t know it,didn’t know the first thing about drugs and alcohol……….his liver got so bad and his dr told him to stop drinking or he’d be gone in 5 yrs……every drink was like gas on a wildfire,he quit for 2 yrs……and I am so ashamed of what i thought but because its easier sometimes to live with what we are used too than it is too change and i honestly caught myself thinking a few times,God it would be so easy to have him drinking again because then i knew how to act around him,I never knew him sober!
ya know,i know thats sad and wrong but i did and i regret it so bad but i didn’t plan on thinking that way Tobias!

Still no believers in the innocence of misty care to ponder the lie detector angle?

We all know they are not admissable but they are used in so many different places(workplace,LE, military) that we should all realize how much they tell you about the veractiy of the subjects answers. They do baseline these tests against known answers to both parties before the ‘real’ questions start.

I’m listening…:)

Cathy… I love you and your honesty!!

jaba: OK I’ve taken polygraphs before and I have never been told that I passed or failed. I was told that it showed no deception. what are you asking or are you asking anything? There are actually more baseline questions than questions relating to the subject matter of the test.

tobias,

I have great admiration for your thinking and your posts.

1) Agree – the judge decides the bail.

2) Agree – parents are not responsible for their
adult children.

3) Disagree – No one and no post that I read is dragging Hardy through mud.

4) Agree – the bail for the infamous 4 should stand, and, no, they would do nothing to help find Haleigh is they were out on bond.

5) Disagree with your mere assumptions that Hardy is focusing so much on the Haleigh case that he is letting other criminal activity slide by; and

Disagee with your assumption that because for a reason we have no idea of, Joshua Troy selected a different last name (Hardy too politically known could even be a reason?) makes him estranged from his father.

His father clearly stated that he would support his son in every way possible as a family does a family member.

My thinking is that judges make the most mistakes, especially in criminal cases. Why?

Again, we don’t know. Assumptions can be made, obvious ones would be friendships get involved, influence gets involved, campaign funding gets involved, due diligence by the lawyers presenting (both sides) get involved. There are many, many reasons why Lady Justice is not always fair.

A

Cathy, I get ya!!

CathyJo, weather might make tomorrow a better idea (just thinking it might be raining today).

not saying its easy,Like for instance my husband quit and he closed off,he wouldn’t speak hardly,he watched tv all the time and even me walking through the house got on his nerves!

Tobias, Putnam County is average sized geographically, with a sparse population – just a little over 70,000 people in the entire county. Palatka, the county seat, only has about 10,000 people.

Joshua Imm’s lives on COUNTY ROAD 309, but I haven’t found out how close to the boat dock area that was searched for Haleigh.

p.s for once I also know that I’;ll never have that problem again tho i will be an addict for the rest of my life,even one pill would do it….so i steer clear even though i know i will neverrrrrrr do it again!

SLcy,

I’m asking anyone who thinks misty is innocent why she fails polys or idictates deception in her answers before and after her drug arrest.

Earlier today we were discussing Hank Sr., Lisa and Lindsey and wondering if just maybe they aren’t working with LE on isolating Misty and Tommy. Hank and Lisa were suppose to be in Court initially next week with Tommy but they appeared last week and received probation. No one has heard anything about them visiting or talking to Misty or Tommy. Lindsey came back from her trip to see Timmy & Chelsea and filed for divorce and no one knows if she has visited Tommy or talked to him. Could LE have encouraged them to not talk or visit to force Tommy & Misty to think about things and tell the truth. I’m thinking it’s possible with all the stuff that’s come to light, although it’s been a very dim light. They need to stop lying and tell the truth. Ron is involved to some degree and Misty needs to tell the truth.

I am curious about that too Lucy!

Cathy, You should be proud of you sobriety and you are the most honest person on here, I am glad to know you. I think others feel the same way and when you were gone we missed you alot.
Speaking of missing (even though we didnt always agree) I wonder what happened to m2c?
I never thought she would just up and disappear without saying good bye at least.???moo

I always think of her too Tobias,And i am flattered by your words! Really actually i may need to run in a second…….but i do miss her,lol just because we disagree don’t mean i doin’t think very highly of all you guys!
but you’ve brought me to my knee’s because for once in my life Tobias,I am proud of me too! Even if i do try to escape from myself sometimes,lol
I am tongue tied,it took mme forever to type this,lol

A simple Thanks Does not even seem fitting!

I wonder if anyone deducted this idea:

I think Haleigh missed a lot of school because she was ill (and possibly a lot due to drugged up caretakers), but isn’t it possible that Haleigh died of natural causes? The peeing in the bed that Misty talks about could of been a sign of her deteriorating. Maybe she vomited and that is what Misty remembers washing out of the blanket?

There is that one foot print of Haleighs (evidence) out the back door….i think where someone almost dropped her….the dog scents went through the woods down towards the water.

Isn’t it possible that someone took Haleigh out of the house and down through the woods to the water to a waiting boat? Isn’t it possible they were going to come back and get Jr, but Misty had woke up and foiled the plan?

Cathy Jo, I think the friend is LP. (remember she let his name slip, then giggled and said, Oh, I wasn’t supposed to say his name, was I?)

why would they hide that Jen.sorry if its me who don’t get it,lol

@ Tobias 7:04, Yes, YOU HAVE, CathyJo! I love your humor, too. I was thinking today how fun it would be to read CathyJo’s blog.

What blog, you say? Ah – maybe in the winter when you’re snow bound you can set up a WordPress blog.

Tommy saying his parents are on a bender was false because they were spotted by media filling up the car when the search was going on. So we know they have the car and money for gas. I think they are just fed up. jmo

Its amazing to think misty and tommy have trouble passing them.the odds are terrific.

The drugs have worn off both of them since they’ve been in and they have failed.

One would think that if ones client pass a LDT on some hard, pointed questions, that the attorney would wave it like a flag.

Deep seeded subconcious, I can’t remember because of what transpired seems thin to me but if true, and it could be, but you. Know they have been talking about it, her and ron that is.

If she was out and didn’t know what happened she would pass that question becasue there is nothing to recall,but more recent failures have been trying to prove someone else did it which she would have to make up if there was no recall, which could cause her to flunk. I have an idea that she has been asked about other things she’s been told or talked about. If she’s covering, she’s not innocent. There is no physical threat from Ron now, but I guess women in prison don’t like child killers than men do, so she may be afraid of that.

I appreciate the response to my q’s, but I can’t help but feel that the biggest proponent of misty is silent. Oh well, maybe she is innocent. There is always hope.

Me too Jen!

omg toldya, now yall made me cry!
especially when most of us first met we had a tiff sometimes and now just to know that you do think of me as a friend means more than anything i could ever have or want for that matter!

Maybe when OJ and his wife rob the bank, Padilla will get them a car also. Wonder what kind of car he wants?

A

Jason said, in May 6th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
I meant the last post to each of you but i wanted you to know i saw yours Jason.and Thank You!!!! it means alottttttt to me!

I’m thinking that Misty’s polygraph’s were showing deception with people not involvement. I think she knows who and what happened but she’s not directly involved. She’s in love and a teenager, it’s forever, it’s dangerous…..And stupid!

Tobias,that was mean of him to say when his dad was taking calls and visiting atleast and he says this knowing it would air on n/g! terrible!

Also, still looking for corroboration re: Ron’s supposed previous drug charges that carried no real legal consequences for him. Conventionally this = snitch. I heard it was nine previous. There should have been SOME time done for this. (unless I’m wrong. Heard it on NG awhile ago). Many drug dealers plan serious retribution for this, might even kill you or kidnap your child. Not unheard of. Once again, this isn’t my end all theory but it’s food for thought. When I lived in Kansas there was a similar case about a serious druggy being the son of a prominent judge. These things are usually super covered up. His eventual overdose and death was called a heart attack in the newspapers and his body cremated immedietly to protect the family. A known meth cook was kept on the street even though he killed the judges son with a “hot shot” because he knew the truth and there was so much at stake. The story is much more convoluted that that actually but this site is about Haleigh, not Carl and Harry.

I remember that. Hank said he had to go to the hospital.

he sure did! I think maybe he gave some to M to sell probably,just a thought….not saying he did,lol but what was it Lindsey said on the last audio about something m and t did to his dad?

i don’t know how i forgot what she said,lol

She said Tommy and Misty beat up and stole Hanks pills. I think thats what went on when NayNay was there and Tommy got arrested for domestic and Hank lied and said they were wrestling and it got out of hand.(over dvds).
Makes you wonder what these people would do for drugs?? jmo

StillLucy – According to the weather patterns they describe on tape… I think the tape was made on March 12th. +/- 1 day

Didn’t Hank press charges against Ron for giving him bad drugs, claimed Ron tried to kill him or poison him or something?

I think thats why Hank got into trouble Tommy and Misty kept stealing his pills. Hank should have turned Tommy and Misty in but you can bet Lindsy would have put them out on the street.
jmo

Reminder: What’s normal to us is not normal to them.

Sorry just had to post this before I left. On the last tape Lindsy saysHank is telling Misty to stop protecting Ron. I wonder if thats why she made up the lie about Joe and Tommy? To deflect from Ron? jmo

Anyone wonder why Nay Nay would write the letter she did about Misty being at a party, etc, etc. and try to burn Misty by saying she set her up to have sex that night with White Boy Greg? What would be NayNays purpose?

Did her plan to help Ron’s Ex (Amber) fail? I read that Amber despised Misty. Amber and Ron have a child together (a boy). Amber and Misty got in a fight over Ron and Misty reportedly said, “I got your husband, and next I will have your son too”! Amber and NayNay are good friends. Yet, NayNay acted like she was Misty’s friend, till she got jailed and wrote dirt on her. So, did Amber and NayNay make a plan for NayNay to get Misty to a party (or somewhere) so someone could sneak in and get Haliegh? Did she want to teach Misty a lesson that bad? Was she that angry?

Just more thoughts to ponder.

I keep going back to the tape where Tommy made it clear that if he wanted to work the next morning, he had to have some pills. He had to of went out looking for them that night. So, I think him and Joe took the van and went looking or Tommy went and got the van himself. He did something for sure. He didn’t just walk around outside. The van had a scratch down the side and leaves and bushes stuck in the headlight. I think the scratch is from being drove up next to the dumpster when Haleighs body was taken out. The bushes are from where he drove through an area to dump her or bury her.

Just more thoughts to ponder.

I can’t see Amber messing with Ron like that. Everyone down there says Amber is scared to death of Ron. Her grandmother has custody of the baby boy now.

Chrome:
IIRC ron and misty met through Amber Brooks,Ronalds ex and maybe baby daddy ,I think she was babysitting and also at their mutual bus stop.
Yep CathyJo your right supposedly Ron gave Hank Sr.a bad pill that landed him in the psych ward a couple days.LOL

LoL i THINK HIS PROBS BEGAN BEFORE THAT LOL

She’s going to jail for the drug dealing for sure. Plead guilty or no contest, either way, its a few miles away from Innocent.

She can wait those 20 some years in prison to decide to tell what happened and tell it, or she can tell it now and probably save some years, if she’s innocent in the haleigh matter. Either way, she’ll have a ton of time to think about it.

I’d think 25 yrs is bad enough…so i don’t get why she won’t if it would help!

All righty than…

tobias said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

According to the Jacksonville news, the meth lab was in Hardy’s son’s home, not the others. They weren’t estranged, the son just found it inconvenient to use his dad’s name under the circumstances.

FDLE had to act/investigate after Tommy told all on Hardy’s son on audio….They HAD to act.

Hey to all!! First timer here!
An LPN is not a nurse, but rather, the person that cleans up all the messes, etc. They are not allowed to touch the medication cabinet! There goes the theory of Lindsy being set up, to get drugs.
It seems like both Lisa and Hank Sr. are in jail. It very well could be an attempt legally, for them to stop visiting Misty and Tommy.
I was very surprised to hear that Lindsy has filed for divorce! I think she made the decision because she hasn’t have the Croslin family for a while. But it is very strange, on when she filed. But, I think she must do whatever she can, to watch and take care of her children!
I’ve read some important information on Ronald. He hasn’t worked, since Haleigh went missing. I believe that Misty and Ronald are still together, and he told her that from jail. He had an interview, and he said at the end “I love my girlfriend”. I doubt he would of found someone new, and fell in love, with someone else. Also, both Misty and him were involved in the drug deal. He has been in trouble regarding drugs many times, but his mom alsways seems to get him off. I think he went into general population, because he doesn’t want to be safe. It is his guilt driving him. And also, in gen. pop. is where you get drugs from. Not to mention the loneliness in insolation. I wonder about his early years. I have read that he lived with Gr. and Grp Sykes. He lived with them, when he was young, and worshipped his grandfather!
After that, I don’t think he had many males in his life. He moved to live with his mother, in high school, with Crystal. They are approximately the same age. I think that when Crystal got pregnant, is when the moved out. Ron had to quit his IT program, in order to go to work to support wife and child.

JenM said,in May 6th, 2010 at 8:11 pm Anyone wonder why Nay Nay would write the letter she did about Misty being at a party, etc, etc. and try to burn Misty by saying she set her up to have sex that night with White Boy Greg? What would be NayNays purpose?

Did her plan to help Ron’s Ex (Amber) fail? I read that Amber despised Misty. Amber and Ron have a child together (a boy). Amber and Misty got in a fight over Ron and Misty reportedly said, “I got your husband, and next I will have your son too”! Amber and NayNay are good friends. Yet, NayNay acted like she was Misty’s friend, till she got jailed and wrote dirt on her. So, did Amber and NayNay make a plan for NayNay to get Misty to a party (or somewhere) so someone could sneak in and get Haliegh? Did she want to teach Misty a lesson that bad? Was she that angry?

Just more thoughts to ponder.
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ok… if we are going to ponder these thoughts we need to know the facts!!
Nay Nay did not say that happened! She said the police told her they have a signed affidavit from someone else that said that happened. Nay Nay was telling her boyfriend that it did NOT happen and she didnt know why they had said that.
Theres you some facts to ponder….

Hey! I also am pondering – I read that Misty used to babysit for Amber! Somewhere, down the line, she met Ronald at a bus stop, and they started chatting. She gave him information regarding his son! They got to know each other, and Ronald asked her to babysit Haleigh and Jr. Over time, they started caring for each other!
Ronald had custody for the children, because Crystal was an unfit mother, heavy into drugs, and unable to support the kids at all, due to being a hard core druggie. Also, she didn’t even show up, for the court.
Perhaps she has changed, what with remarrying and having a new baby! But, I don’t think she wanted “the brats”. I wonder how Jr. is making out living with her, sure hope Dcs checks in, on him.
It’s interesting, how the Croslins are missing in action. Oh, just remembered, Misty and Tommy’s lawyers didn’t want their parents talking to anyone, about their cases.
Tommy is in jail for other crimes he committed, he was not involved with the drug bust. Misty also stated that he stole a gun, and other things from a B&E on the next store neighbour.
Guess I’ve dragged on, a bit. So bye!

hello..just found you guys. Wanted to correct spikedlemon *I think that was the user name.

An LPN is a Licensed Practical Nurse. I think you’re confusing an LNA with an LPN.

LPN’s are certainly able to pass medication (and clean up messes as well as any other nurse for that matter).