I don’t mess in the world of BOMBSHELL, Exclusive, or Breaking News. I leave that for other people. I mess in the world of trying to figure out what is going on. The last set of jail house tape were released several weeks ago. It is one thing having a DVD in your hand, and a different thing having something available online. The last set of three DVD’s contained a file that was fighting back. I played with it a couple of times and made the choice to move on. Yesterday I decided to throw everything I had at it. Three computers, three different operating systems, and hell knows how many different pieces of software, we have a version of the audio.
It is a conversation between Tommy and his wife. It comes from the time that he had blinkers on that the jail system was recording him.
Without question this is the tape that everyone needs to listen to.
Lindsey: They tried to tell Chelsea that you were smoking crack
Tommy: F##k them damn detectives
I don’t smoke no damn crack I take pills
L: They talk about you doing powder too
T: F##K them
when did they say that
L: they tol.. I don’t know it was the other day
T: oh well f##k them I don’t care what they say
I love you
L: <inaudible>
Good save tom, good save
T: Well it is, I don’t do that kind of shit
I done coke in the past yea. But it aint my drug of choice,
I like pills,
If I am going to spend my money on drugs, I am gonna by some pills
L: Quit getting mad you can tell cos you start doing this
Tommy the innocent then launches into some Biblical references, the importance of his Drivers license, his birth certificate, blah blah.
T: Misty covering for her old man.
She is so stupid, I don’t want anything to do with her no more, all this trouble she has brought on this family
L: She needs some help.
T: Ever since she got with ronald man
L: I don’t know if she thinks this is a game.
Tommy: I think its what Ronald told us, thats what happened.
Now he is kicking himself in the ass cos he told
Now its probably too late
Now they know if they give the kid up they are f##ked. But the police don’t want to hear that.
I think she is covering for somebody
Ouch, ouch, ouch. All I can say is listen this yourself. It is not pretty, it is what it is.
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI think I might want to wear a seatbelt for this one. Hmmm….so is Ron perhaps more in the “know” then he would like everyone to think? These pill popping crackheads need to tell what they know already! DANG!
Since Tommy took LE to the dock, I don’t see a reason to believe a word he said from months ago when he was still deflecting blame.
Tommy or Joe did this for whatever reason and I think LE is stuck trying to prove the JO accusations. If they can’t, justice for Haleigh may be screwed.
This is by far the best BLOG on the Haleigh Cummings case. THANKS!!!
one more love ya and giggle i am buyin a noose,can’t take it,lol bbs
I think her friend may be Padilla,who else can even offer to get him out!
Was LP going to get her van fixed or get her another car?I guess this is why LP stopped playing and went to try getting RC out,when it wasn’t going anywhere with TC.I guess these people have to go to work now and stop living off thier new celebrity status.
CathyJo, she might not be happy with Padilla anymore. Yesterday she posted on her YouTUbe channel: “Some of these old men, so called, investigators, seem more like sexual predators to me”.
WinterRose @ 5:25: Lindsy referred to Leonard as ‘sweety’ when she posted about him buying minutes for her phone.
I love the constant hints of what these family members need in these tapes,so people will provide for them.People are so gullible.Actually it’s kind of funny,they send money and they use it for going out,getting tats and piercings.Pffttt!!
she told him maybe she should wait on her friend,lol yeaa to pay for the motor,lol
exactly Jason!! She’d prolly go home with him!
users!!
Thank you so much Simon. You are the best.
From ‘sweety’ to ‘sexual predator’, if she was referring to Leonard yesterday.
OMG Jason,are you serious??
I’d bet she is! if it were another HE,Tommy would go off! lol
Jason said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
WinterRose @ 5:25: Lindsy referred to Leonard as ’sweety’ when she posted about him buying minutes for her phone.
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LOL,That cracked me up. 🙂
Did Leonard buy the computer for Lindsy, or did she buy it with money from the tax refund?
WinterRose, lol!
So much for Lindsy not seeking attention…that narcissistic thing I have blogged before about her… WinterRose, I so agree with you, how very sad these people are (in their own minds) celebrities… My concern has always been these family members and one more expert trying to make a name, a dime, or a YouTube tape off of the death of an innocent child.. Yes I am interested in what happened to HaLeigh and she be given the justice she deserves. I am also concerned for all of the children left in the care of such incredibly selfish people, whether that be by drugs, attention seeking, or a totally disjointed view of reality.
I think he bought it with the cam,so they could talk.
Well some info came out about who she was with in New Jersey, Rob the boyfriend who like Ron beat the shat out of her. Seems Misty has a problem with the bad boys she picks and now she is covering for one. jmo
Ahh – the cam. Why would she need a cam? Isn’t email, chat good enough?
LoL Jason,fruitcakes with extra nuts!
needs his birth certificate when he gets out rofl!
all Tommy does is complain about everything!!
WinterRose, even minutes on her phone would fill the need of Lindsy and Leonard to talk.
I don’t know – just seems really weird that Leonard would buy her a computer with a cam!
it depresses me bad to even hear him!
CathyJo – fruitcake loaded with nuts!
why buy her a damn computer to start with?
Jason, Its an added security so he knows he is talking with her and not someone else. He proobably has it all taped LOL. She may think she is smart but she is really stupid and now she has gotten her hubby sunk. jmo
I think now we can believe Tommy. I believe misty called him after the drug boys messed up and killed Haleigh and they were in trouble.Tommy took Haleigh to the ramp and later Misty told Ron what happened and they staged the MH only the LE were too smart and didnt go with the SO stole Haleigh story. jmo
CathyJo @ 5:45: Leonard spent money on her back in the day when he was looking to get a BOMBSHELL from Tom.
He bought other things, or provided money for other things, which Lindsy told Tom she didn’t want to talk about during a visit because she didn’t want people hearing about it.
What about their children?????
Doesn’t Tommy ever care if about his kids?
These so are so self-absorbed it is pathetic.
Tommy doesn’t listen to her, he just speaks and speaks about himself.
Mexican mafia reference was something – are they now all trying to say it was a drug mafia that took Haleigh?
I got go take a long walk and clear my head.
These people are not parents and, again, those poor little children.
Ann
Leonard’s done with Tom now, and isn’t motivated to spend money on Lindsy.
I don’t belive what tommy said cause he’s been locked up before and if u remember he told there
father to tell misty to watch what she says on the phone at jail so he knew he was being recoreded
and if they belived misty was covering for him
they would have to police they have no loyality
to ronald but something ronald said in the very begining still puzzles me remenber he told tim miller or equasearch if he had 35 hundred dollars
he could get haleigh back so tim miller said he could raise the money that it wasn’t a problem
but he wanted ronald to police what he knew
then u never heard anymore about that
so there is no way tommy would sit in jail
if he believed ronald was involved that conversation was for police tommy knows how it
works in jail this isn’t his first time being
in jail
Sorry, thought the first didn’t post –
Ann
Ok if it was the Cresent City Mexicans,as Tommy refers to them,why wouldn’t Ron tell LE or take the money that Tim Miller offered, when he was their to give misty the voice stress test? I don’t buy it.
Maybe Lindsy hit Leonard up for more money, he implied, or explicitly stated, what she could do with the cam he bought for her. LOL – just a thought that would explain her posting Leonard is a ‘sweety’ when he bought phone miutes for her, and yesterday posting “Some of these old men, so called, investigators, seem more like sexual predators to me”.
Cause they didnt take Haleigh they killed her and left her for Ron to see Just like he said to the UC only they didnt kil Misty or Junior.
They left him to suffer and take the blame. jmo
Well,I guess what LP was doing,was going thru her to find out what she knows and if he could get Tommy out,the same thing.So,if you take a person,put them on a webcam for hours,send money to them,they’ll talk more.The webcam made it more personnal than phone calls,I guess.I expect people will want to get ahold of Ashley and Lisa now,her friends and get on their myspace sites to spread what they’re saying about Lindsy and all.
I think LE may have followed her to the beach or spin class. LOL Like she is sexy lol jmo
Mother @ 5:55; I think he’s talking for the audience, too.
His ‘spin’ of the day. He and Lindsy have been exchanging letters. Letters prior to the visit recorded in this audio could have been leading up to this ‘planned’ conversation.
Last week, Lindsy posted on one of her YouTube ‘friend’s’ channel: “Timmy I think had something to do with this, and Chelsea is covering up for him. I mean, they bailed almost as fast as Joe”.
tobias – great thought – that might explain the instant grief which doesn’t fit into the steps of grief. IMO
The check for $35,000 was provided to Tim Miller from Roy MOffert of Cypress, Texas. I believe it is a check not payable yet, but payable as a reward (reward is $35,000) – do I have that correct?
It was Hank Croslin, Sr. that contacted Tim Miller re the extra amount – stranger than strange the whole thing,
Ann
Stupid Lindsy doesnt she know LE knows everything about Tommys drug history by going to all of his known buddies and leaning on them? Tommy has smoked crack and has done way more than Lindsy is aware of. jmo
Winterrose @ 6:04 pm: Good point about the cam – I hadn’t thought about that. He could read her body language, too, which could help him determine where to take the conversation, whether she was lieing, etc.
LE read their letters, and listened to their visit conversations.
I wonder why their phone calls are released, but not their written communication. It’s all conversation, so why not release the letters?
That would explain a lot of things like cars being heard leaving and a woman screaming at 2.
Why Ron thinks if he was home it wouldnt have happened. Why he moved 6 weeks prior and said no one but Nay Nay and the rest knew where he lived.(that was on the recent Cobra tape).
Everyone in the hood knowing Ron owed someone money or robbed a drug dealer.
Look at Rons tough boy attitude and his road rage incident with C Jones, he screwed with the wrong people. jmo
Could someone please link me to her youtube channel?
I just wonder if the youtube channel with her name is really Lindsy…SO,,,,does anyone know if Padilla bought her a car????? Does that old man really think he is going to get to the bottom of any TRUTH from these people….Lindsy sure did hop on the “give me” wagon, didnt she…..She knows a gift horse when she sees one, huh……..These people could care less about Haleigh,,and this is so sad…Blaming everyone but who is really to blame…I do NOT for a minute think Lindsy is divorcing Tommy, because she has seen the “light” and realizes what a creep he is…Those poor children of theirs..I too, hope the DCS is keeping an eye on her and those little ones….poor babes, they must think F this and F that is the way to talk, and no telling what else they have seen from their father aND learned from him…..Poor Haleigh, will she ever be found????? I sure pray she wll and those,,,everyone of those are punished…Lindsy is such an enabler, and she s codependant on such trash,,,is there any hope for her???? Hope for their own kids????
Trotline:
http://www.youtube.com/user/LindsyLPN
Siman, thank you for the audio…..Is there more??? I hope we get some that are dated after the divorce papers were served on ole Tommy boy….That will be telling is Lndsy is doing the same as before…Although, if there arent any she may just not be talkng to him so LE and the public believe she really is distancing herself from him…personally, I think she is dong it for the benefits and money as a single mother….She isnt stupid, she knows how to play the system…
Southernvagirl,
I think she’s divorcing him because she has learned the truth about what happened to Haleigh.
Tommy covered for Misty , Misty covered for herself and RON. I just hope Misty wakes the heck up and talks or she will get the max or close to it on her drug charges and so will the rest of them. jmo
@JB I’ve been wondering what happened to you.You have a way of making me laugh when I want to cry for Haleigh & all the other kids in this mess. I have a grand daughter who is getting ready to go off to college.They are not safe even at that age.I enjoy most of the people on this blog.I appreciate Simon, Jan,and all their friends who work so hard to find out the facts on this case. There isn’t another blog like this one.imo
…Prison is a great rehab. Especially if u r not getting out for a while….Yeah she’s gonna b real lonely soon and for a while to come….have fun!
About the time I decide this is a 3 ring circus they add another ring. There is no end in sight to this. They all are the biggest moochers I’ve ever heard of and still have nothing. At least gypsies or travelers do use their ill gotten gain for their families. After the last tapes if I here the word WHY again I might just lose it? These adults mind are like a 5 year old. Please give them some brain cells. I just hope LE can break these dysfunctional people but I’m starting to doubt it. Poor Haleigh and all the children involved.
If Steven Brown solved this case like he said he did. What would Leonard Padilla get out of this? He is a bounty hunter. Who is he planning to arrest? Why would he be handing out money for a solved case?
Two days ago, Lindsy posted “I feel ignored, betrayed, and unloved”, and “I have to put my kids first”.
Feeling ignored and unloved, could be for the obvious reason – Tom isn’t in her life daily.
But, what would she feel betrayed about? Did she confide in Leonard, and he betrayed her? Did she confide in someone else, who then told Flora Hollars?
On this tape I believe ToC say it’s been 51 days. I think this means that the time frame is at the end of Feb. Did anyone else hear this?
So, next theory that comes to mind. Nay Nay abliges Misty to make sure she gets out of the house to that party that night (and arranges for her to meet up with white boy greg). She comes and gets Misty. Misty takes the kids with her (because he won’t leave them by themselves). Nay Nay is supposed to be keeping an eye on them till Misty is ready to go home, but something happens and haleigh is killed. (maybe this is where Ron left work and hoped to find Misty at the party, but she was already with WB Greg. Ron goes nuts and threatens some people, blames Nay Nay, and Haleigh is accidently killed. Possibly by some drugged up people that don’t like Ron) They all panic! Nay Nay says Hey, we have to get rid of Haleigh and dump her body somewhere or we are “all” gonna go down for murder and drug charges! Ron calls Tommy (remember the phone call?) and says help us out. He gets everyone and they plan the abduction scheme. They put Haliegh in the dumpster (this is where Nay Nay drops her keys), Tommy sets up the back door, Jr. is put in his bed, Misty waits in the MH, and Ron goes back to work, dropping Nay Nay back off at her car. However, Misty panics, calls Timmy for advice and he says Oh no, too much evidence in the dumpster, get her out of there and make it quick. Tommy goes over and gets the van. Him and Timmy get Haleigh out of the dumpster and dispose of her (possibly the lake). Ron tries and “play it cool” by going to the convienence store to cover his tracks by acting like he doesn’t know anything going on!
When he gets home he makes Misty call 911, because he is ‘obviously’ too pissed to do it. I beleive her squeals are from him hurting her. He keeps repeating that he is going to kill the person who did this.
Yes, I think Ron’s tears were real, but they were for a ‘dead daughter’ that he couldn’t bring back to life (or get her life back).
I think he knows that these things can happen when you lead the life he does. But I also think he is smart enough not to rat out the gang that did this. That would be suicide! Plus maybe his family would be harmed. None of that will bring Haleigh back.
So, he comes to grips that yes he is mad at Misty for what she did to cause it, but he knows she didn’t do it directly. He knows that Misty loved Haleigh. He wanted to sweep it under the rug and get his own revenge in time. This is why he told the detectives that Misty absolutely did not go to a party, and was not with WB greg.
Why else would he cover for her? Tommy knows that he help set up the abduction scene. Timmy helped out too and that is why Chelsea covered for him and blamed Joe. Now, important part..Misty was drugged up…maybe she can’t remember who did what that night. But with this scenario, they were all involved. Ron covered for Misty, Misty covered for Ron, Tommy covered for Misty. NOW, Tommy is tired of Misty covering for Ron. This is because his loyalty is to his sister first (remember, he loves her). He wants Misty to stick with him and put the blame on Ron.
Thats their story and they are stickin’ to it.
I think its about mid March. Its close to when she goes to Mass. The van is down and its raining. Be right back I will check the weather for florida . She said they had tornado warnings when did Miss. get hit?
Maybe she’s divorcing Tom because she has a new romance, perhaps a man with a good income who will help support or totally support her and the children.
Three years is a long time, she said to Tom a good while back.
I also think that when Lyndsy went to visit Chelsea and Timmy, they got to talking and told her some stuff she didn’t know about Tommy and possibly about that night. I think they knew about it too when Haleigh was gone. Misty called Timmy before she called 911!!!! Or was it Chelsea she spoke with? Who did she speak with when she called them?
Maybe they told her that Tommy had borrowed the van earlier that night and him and Joe were gone in it. Maybe that’s what Lyndsy recently learned?
chakra7 said,in May 5th, 2010 at 5:57 pm Ok if it was the Cresent City Mexicans,as Tommy refers to them,why wouldn’t Ron tell LE or take the money that Tim Miller offered, when he was their to give misty the voice stress test? I don’t buy it.
Agreed Chakra,because if tommy knew he’d blab it in a second to free him,self! I think tommys talking about that 35 grand but thats not what happened in my opinion!
He is such a jerk-face!
heya Adams!!!!!!!!
he’s an idiot!
JenM @ 7:06: Yes, Misty called Tim and Chelsea’s. Was her call taken, or were they sleeping and didn’t answer is my first question for Chelsea, and the second, if the call was taken, who did Misty talk to and what did they talk about.
Chelsea said on NG that ‘finding Haleigh’ was her ‘goal in life’.
If CHelsea didn’t take the call, did Joe, or Tim?
Who?? Jerk-face, that’s a new one (and funny), but who are you talking about – Tom, Tim, Leonard?
JenM,
You said that Nay Nays keys were by the dumpster, I never heard that. Can you tell me where that info came from? That is interesting if true.
I dont see Misty protecting him though. Herself yes but not Tommy she would tell on him in a nano second just to be with Ron.jmo
I have suspected that MC did not tell ToC the truth about RC involvement in Haleigh’s death because she knew that ToC would tell on RC. MC didn’t think that ToC would tell police on her.
BBL!
true too Tobias,but remember Hank…he said he knew Tommy did nothing?? remember the jail video with m?
he had told her not to be lying and he knew tc wasn’t involved,she may be scared of ole dad!
I think that this is what encouraged LE to go to Tommy and take another look at the dock. The timing is right there. The were watching the feed of info to the family and to Tommy and got him to mention Ron. That had not been done before.
Jason said,in May 5th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
She’s exercising and losing weight…….uhooo!
Maybe Joe did and he maybe took the van at that time? Sorry, but if Chelsea and Timmy weren’t involved and Misty talked to one of them, I think they would of got up and ran over there to look for Haleigh, unless they are covering up.
Maybe someone took Haleigh from that party. Maybe she wasn’t harmed at all. Maybe they sent Misty home with a message to tell Ron they had her and he better play it cool if he wanted her back. Misty sent Tommy and Joe out to look for who did it? Ron and Misty staged the abduction. Maybe they told Ron to come up with the 35,000 he owed them? He didn’t want to get them all busted, so he didn’t. He probably thought he could raise that money by dealing the drugs and had Misty help him, since she was the one that let Haleigh get taken at the party. Who knows!
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Just so everyone knows this is Rev. 21-8. This is what Tommy wants Hank and Lisa to tell Misty.
actually i am almost certain the keys were found at the fake search site!
I don’t know the link, but it was in evidence when they did the search that day. They found a set of car keys in the dirt in the area (dumpster also in the area). The keys just happened to be to Nay Nay’s car. Her car was also leaking antifreeze (from what I read somewhere and they found antifreeze on the ground too). I’m sure others have read this.
Tobias you scared me for a minute. I thought you were talking to us until your last sentence. Wow
omg Tobias, for cryin out loud! who is he,Moses! LoL
ACTUALLY hOPE,SO DID i…I THOUGHT NOW tOBIAS WOULD NEVER SAY THAT..THIS IS AN IMPOSTER,LOL
(((Hey, Cathy)))
Jason, I was calling Tommy a jerk-face.
Oops sorry again! caps grrrr
feeding my face and typing,lol
He sure can pick the verses but cant tell the truth or maybe he has now since LE has gone silent. I dont think they arereally going after Joe, I agree its Ron that they are after.
Ron , Misty and Tommy in that order. jmo
Tommy don’t know he fits the desription too! LoL
Why aren’t they concerned about their own children’s safety if they believe their story?
Like I said renewed interest in the search at the river thanks, tobias.
Ron, Misty and Teresa/That’s why Teresa got there in under 5min.
Timmy and Chelsea got out of Dodge to protect their kids because they were brought in by Misty not Tommy & Joe
JenM said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
I don’t know the link, but it was in evidence when they did the search that day. They found a set of car keys in the dirt in the area (dumpster also in the area). The keys just happened to be to Nay Nay’s car. Her car was also leaking antifreeze (from what I read somewhere and they found antifreeze on the ground too). I’m sure others have read this.
Thanks Jen,
If that is true it’s very suspicious. Why would her key’s be there and how would she drive her car without them?
So do I tobias………imho i do!!!!
just hard to prove and getting married didn’t help the le either?
IF MISTY WAS DRUGGED SHE WOULD NOT HAVE FAILED 4 POLY’S SAYING SHE DOESN’T REMEMBER WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED SHE FAILED CUZ SHE LIED SHE DOES KNOW WHAT HAPPENED SHE KILLED HALEIGH AND RON WAS NOT THERE
and Tobias,i do think the tatoo on Misty was a promise to ron!
Posted a little over half an hour ago on Lindsy’s page:
LindsyLPN is not in a very good place right now. (36 minutes ago)
nay nays keys were found at the fake search site,Cobra tried to give them to le but they did not want them!
they wanna make sure,and they need Misty to give it up on Ron! thats whats holding it up and i’d almost bet money on it!
hope,cause its all about ME ME ME!
Tommy was booked into jail on 1/21 and I believe he said 61 days, that would make it the end of March
Tobias good scripture. Jailhouse religion they all use until they get out.
Does anyone know if LE knows what DCWF has on Ron or is that even kept from them? jmo
JenM–when was this search conducted? I want to try to find the link to LE finding Nay Nay`s car keys and antifreeze by the dumpster. I thought I recalled hearing that Cobra tried to give Nay Nay`s keys to LE when they did the fake search, but I am not certain of it. TIA
I don’t have a clue Tobias,but must be something and remember he told Geraldo,i whip my kids the way dcs says i can
teds home,bbl hugs!
Appleamy, maybe LPN Lindsy knows charges are coming down soon.
Didn’t Lindsy say it was 51 days today?
So, it was the 21 of January the first day, and from there you get to the 13th or 14th March?
I don’t remember the keys, do remember them finding some evidence but then later saying it wasn’t significant.
Antifreeze was in Nay Nay’s trunk wasn’t it?
This all started because of a missing child, and probably harm to a child.
Yet, even now the realization that children are to be protected and loved doesn’t seem to amount to a row of beans to these people.
Who are they?
Ann
He sure did get real mad at Geraldo, mad enough to file trespassing against him. I think he hit on a raw nerve that day, well really a couple if you add the drugs. jmo
april, you are right about something just not sure what. She knows something!
NayNay’s keys were lost near the dumpster and found there, heard that early on. Her car was searched by LE and antifreeze saturation was in the trunk of her car, no explanation given, just noted. Webslueths’ had a thread with all vehicle information listed pertaining to all the players. Believe that’s where I read about this.
That was in San Mateo not at the MH dumpster.
I dont believe NayNay is involved. jmo
Love how he tries to implicate Ron and Misty. I don’t think Ron is Mr. Innocent but I don’t think he knew what happened originally. I think he came to the realization that Misty knows what happened to his daughter but he hasn’t openly admitted it, probably b/c he doesn’t want to look any dumber than he already looks. I wonder what they are talking about when they say that it is what Ronald said it was. Sounds like they are trying to blame the Mexican Mafia, I just wonder why they wouldn’t tell on Ron if they knew something that would lead them to Haleigh and clear them.
Tommy keeps on wavering on his feelings for Misty, one second calling her a liar and then sticking up for her when he says it wasn’t her fault when someone was mad at Misty.
Gotta love how Lindsy blows off the fact that they owe their friend Cher a hundred bucks, she doesn’t want to hear it. She says she doesn’t owe him a hundred bucks yet he says it was for when they didn’t have money for cigarettes and stuff. What a loser, she could care less about owing money to this girl yet she couldn’t bitch enough when the parents owed her money. The little self centered bratt threatened to tell Nancy Grace and Art Harris about them owing her, maybe she should also let them know about her borrowing money for frigin smokes and God knows what else over a year ago but has no intention on paying them back. She is nothing but a spoiled rotten bratt and the more she talks the more her true colors come out. She wants a $10,000.00 car b/c she blew her motor up after Tommy kept telling her to change the oil. You would think she would be more worried about getting things for her children so they don’t stand out any more than they already do, she just figures the state can keep giving them stuff. She has three damn kids that are probably all still supposed to sit in car seats and she thinks a little Altima is going to fit them comfortably, she needs to get her head out of her ass and put the kids first. Besides it would be cheaper to put the engine in the van but she sounds like she doesn’t want the van anymore and wants to hold out for someone to feel bad for her and get her the new car. Her parents/grandparents have been supporting her lazy ass for years, I think its time they cut the cord and let her learn to fend for herself. I am sure she uses the kids as pawns to make them feel bad but they can help with the kids without physically giving Lindsy money. Buy what they need and give it to them instead of giving the cash. Bet the little hooch would be bitching then.
Tommy sitting there talking about how he thinks about taking pills and shit is pathetic. They know they are being recorded but are so damn stupid that they keep talking about it. Neither one of them sound educated at all, I know she went through LPN schooling but that doesn’t mean she is smart. Besides she hasn’t gotten a job yet as far as I know and it doesn’t sound like she is even trying that hard. Nurses are in high demand yet she can’t seem to find anything. Sure her name is mud but I am pretty sure she could get a job at a nursing home or something like that if she tried. Also it seems as if she is being picky like only wanting to work days. Most people have to start at the bottom and work their way up to get the shifts they want. It isn’t easy to get a daytime shift right off unless it is in a regular health care office. She had a girl staying with her at one time that should have been able to babysit and she should be able to get the person/people who watch her kids when she goes out to take them if she gets a second shift job. She has no room to be picky in her position yet she is. She acts like it’s funny to be in the spotlight but has no clue that most people are disgusted with her and the rest of the dirtbags.
Maybe the antifreeze in the trunk was to hide Haleigh evidence? Maybe they put her in the trunk to take her to the river?
Or maybe its as simple as Misty having a psychotic break and hurting Haleigh after Ron snuck home from work and traumatized her. She realized what she had done, called Nay Nay, they threw her in the trunk, took her to the river. Tommy came over and set the door. Misty claimed she woke up and she was gone.
Kudos to Lindsy – she banned a vulgar-mouthed poster from her channel. I hope she complains to YouTube, and they ban him from posting anywhere on the site.
The guy is over-the-top cruel and vulgar in his posts to her channel, which makes me think he has a personal relationship with one of the players in this case (my guess – Misty).
I believe LE has the major players in jail. The rest are just covering for them and they dont even realize what they are covering up for them. They all think the one they are protecting is innocent.jmo
What’s the “fake search site”?
I don’t think NayNay would have been brought in either.
I can’t find Lindsey’s YouTube posts, anybody know what it’s under?
Here is what I think is going on right now. Tommy has owned up to dumping the body for Misty. Misty called him for help and he doesnt really know what happened to her before he got there. Misty is still holding out on what she knows. Ron is so silent we hear crickets. lol jmo
FYI
The Jail tapes and the videos will be released under the Sunshine Law but the letters not covered there. Those are part of the investigation and not for the public.
I think we’ll see significant movement in this case between now (Hope’s sentencing) and the sentencing of Misty, Tommy, and Ronald.
JenM,
Had the same thought – remembering Scott Peterson putting gas over that tarp to eliminate the smell of decomposition.
Does antifreeze do the same?
Also, seem to remember something somewhere about decomposition containing chemicals similar to antifreeze.
Wondering why the keys would end up near the dumpster?
Please, what is the fake search site – thank you stilllucy.
Ann
Tobias I think you are right on! imo
A snail could move significantly faster. Hopefully, someone will convince Misty to do the right thing.
Justice for HaLeigh
tobias, I think you are probably right about Tommy dumping the body for the little slut Misty. Most likely him and Joe dumped her after Misty called them to help. I don’t think Misty intentionally beat her to death but probably neglected her and she got into something and died. I also wonder about the blankets, she mentioned multiple times how she had to wash them b/c they smelled like pee. It’s like she is offering that information when she wasn’t asked about the blankets. It’s one of the first things she said, kind of strange if you think about it. Sure at some point if she was questioned about why the blankets were in the washer then it’s understandable but she doesn’t seem to be able to get anything strait and doesn’t offer any information without it being pulled from her yet she felt the need to say she washed the blanket b/c it smelled like pee. Wonder if Haleigh wet the bed or if Misty washed the blankets due to their being some kind of evidence on it, like maybe she wrapped her in it originally or something. It’s just really weird how she mentions them over and over. Also in one of the interviews she was talking about that night and said something about her(Misty’s)blanket being in the van…I think it was something like “I didn’t have my blanket b/c it was in the van they took that night”. Not sure what the hell she meant by that nor why the blanket would be in the van in the first place.
Think Lindsy is as shallow as the rest of them.
And, Tobias, agree, this girl has moved on. Exercise to get into shape – losing weight – all the while her husband is facing years in prison and she will be the sole provider for her three little children. But her priorities are elsewhere, she has to look nice for that new guy she has her eye on.
Ann
I’m asking about the “fake search site”, Cathy keeps referring to it. I’ve not heard of it. Curious too.
It is impossible for me to believe that neither of these two losers knew that they were being recorded. I don’t buy that for one minute. Jail is the second home for these people. They know exactly how it works there.
I believe this tape is before she knew ToC involvement. I bet hew entire mindset has changed now.
I just see Misty and Ron calling Timmy and Chelsea for help before dragging dumb and dumber in(Tommy & Joe). JMO
Trust issue for Misty. Closer relationship.
If this was the tape of mid-March it might take LE a couple of weeks to actually get to hear the tape.
Then they may have interviewed Tommy and scheduled the LDT – which he failed.
So, more about this conversation with Lindsy was required and since he doesn’t want to do more than three years he cooperates.
Ann
Lucy,
Maybe, but she knew JO was there and she wouldn’t trust him. imo
Lucy: and I think the rat in ToC mailbox is a warning to him
LE can monitor these tapes during visits if they are that interested. There is no need to wait. They can be pulled up during and after at any time, no problem.
A week or so after this visit is when Lindsey went to Chelsea & Timmy’s. Tommy took the polygraph while she was gone. Padilla said when she came back she was upset. Timmy & Chelsea told her things she didn’t know, they had to and when she got back she found out that Tommy had shown deception and yet another polygraph. What’s a girl suppose to do? Now those are the tapes I would love to hear…..
maybe she called TiC first and he told her to call ToC because he was in town and TiC had been in the accident?
I thought in the tape here that Tommy said that Ron had told them something……Maybe that’s what the headless rat was for.
Tobias asked whether law enforcement has access to (I think) Child Protective Services’ records. If those are the records Tobias is referring to, I can tell you that here in Sacramento, CA (home of Leonard Padilla!!), law enforcement has access to Child Protective Services’records. I worked at the State of Children’s Children’s Services Division for several years. From what I saw, it is also my understanding that all states’ law enforcement agencies can get access to those records.
stilllucy said,in May 5th, 2010 at 8:27 pm I’m asking about the “fake search site”, Cathy keeps referring to it. I’ve not heard of it. Curious too.
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that will blow your mind if only half of it is true..the fake search story is at writeintoaction.com, theres some crazyness about cobra there too.
Until the search in mid-April – was it Padilla intention to bail everyone out?
Had heard he and Grace were bailing out Ronald Cummings. It is obvious Lindsy is talking about Padilla as her friend. Tommy, true to himself, doesn’t let her finish, and seemed to have expected him at a bond hearing in mid-April so that he would be free for a little while.
Well something happened – and your assumptions about Mass and what Chel. and Timmy told Lindsy is probably right on the money.
Ann
No way should the defence be able to keep that a secret. They want the public money? Well, the public has a right to know where it is going.
there was a fake search,yes orchestrated by griffis
One thing Lyndsy says on this tape really stands out to me. She said if you knew anything, you couldn’t have kept it a secret from me. She said you would have said something in one of your drugged filled stupors. You talk too much. I think Lyndsy gives herself away with this statement. We know Tommy knew more than he was telling LE, so Lyndsy knew more, also.
If a drugboy killed Haleigh, why isn’t more fear shown by Tommy and Lyndsy for their children? I have heard Lyndsy say one time that she felt by staying in the Satsuma area, she was setting her kids up to be taken. She said because Haleigh was taken from there, she worried about her own. I haven’t seen any sign of fear about her kids being taken, since. They should be fearing that the drugboy would do something to one of their kids as a reminder for Tommy and Lyndsy to keep their mouth shut.
All of Lyndsy’s story doesn’t add up to me. I think she doesn’t want to admit she has known more than she was admitting from day one. I wonder if she is trying to set him up by pumping him to get him to say too much. If it comes from him, she doesn’t have to admit knowing from the start. She can act innocent.
i was told she decided to divorce t when he failed his last ld test?? is that true?
I agree Karon,i think i’d known if my husband did something like that and hid it,you just know theyre different all of a sudden!
I’ll get it,the link for fake search if yall want me too???
if Jan allows it?? lol
The message to Misty from the book of Revelations is just a little creepy.
at the fake search too when the psychic or whatever,lol had the dog,they asked mg if she had Haleighs shoes to use for scent,she said she had given them away!!!! true!
ain’t it though Lucy,creepyy!
Jason, the post on her youtube was not from her, it was a troll leaving bad remarks on her page, really bad.
The fake search site was the one mentioned in the floodofnoah youtube account. There is some very interresting stuff there.
I want to like lyndsay for some reason, and I seem to feel for her, however I have a question to pose to you all. If this “gang” of drug dealers – more specifically pill dealers, were looking to expand business and gain an easier route to their pill distribution, then could they be setting lyndsay up to be their nurse at the er who dolls them out meds or otherwise obtains them or vouches for them to the doctors? It seems the group has an in with some le there, so then with a nurse, they would be really moving up.
It is also common for women to go to school for nursing and could be a coincidence. I just didn’t want to overlook Ron’s reach here. She never left him for doing all kinds of drugs before. That seems very odd to me.
Haleigh Cummings, mother Crystal Sheffield, with brother, Ronald, Jr. aka “Butterbean”
By Art Harris, The Bald Truth, (c) http://www.artharris.com, all rights reserved
As a member of the Putnam County Child Abduction Response Team, and a lead investigator trying to crack the Haleigh Cummings mystery, Peggy Cone found herself searching the hay farm in nearby Baker County last Friday, when more than three dozen law enforcement officers from the state police and several counties descended on two trailers the missing five year old’s mother, Crystal Sheffield, and her maternal grandmother, Marie Griffis, call home.
It was an invitation only affair, according to Captain Dominic Piscitello of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department; the mother’s family had invited law enforcement to search the 40 acre property to help remove any suspicion Haleigh might be hidden there, or had been there since she was reported missing Feb. 10 from her father’s trailer in nearby Satsuma, Florida.
Perhaps Misty had someone over at the MH partying that night with her. He did something with Haleigh when Misty passed out. Misty would do “anything” to keep Ron from finding out that she was with someone else in his bed. Maybe she set that brick up by the back door. Maybe Tommy was there watching the kids when she got back with this guy. He left and said he would cover for her. Ron knows he is lying about something, thus the dead rat if he doesn’t tell him. Everyone is afraid to tell Ron the truth. I think he might be the last to know. Misty may of simply set the door and brick up herself? But surely Tommy couldn’t have done it because he was with Lyndsy all night passed out from cleaning the house and cooking dinner, lol.
After digging up several animals the family said they’d buried there, walking the property and sending divers into a nearby lake, Piscatello announced they’d found no sign of Haleigh, and no evidence to suggest she was there after her father’s babysitter turned child bride, Misty Cummings, said she awoke at 3 a.m. to use the bathroom and found her gone.
But during the search, Putnam County Det. Peggy Cone did discover drug paraphernalia and a small amount of crack cocaine in a Ford truck on the property, and reported it to a local deputy. “She showed me where she discovered a Marlboro Lights Cigarette pack behind the seat of a 1991 white and green Ford truck parked on the Southeast end of the property, which contained two Crack pipes and a plastic container with Crack Cocaine residue inside,” wrote officer Jerald A. Peterson, from the local sheriff’s Charlie Squad 1.
“I noted,” the deputy’s report goes on to say, “the cigarette packs location and took possession of the pack.”
But at the time, the deputy struck out trying to track down the truck’s registered owner the report identified as Jesse. L. Watkins, a friend of the family.
Later, he denied any knowledge of the drugs or pipes, Major Gerald Gonzalez of the Baker County Sheriff’s Department, told The Bald Truth, as did any member of the Sheffield or the Griffis families. Kim Picazio, attorney for Crystal Sheffield, said her client and family were shocked at the discovery and vehemently denied any suggestion they condoned –or might be using –illegal drugs.
According to a Gonzalez, given the sketchy circumstances, it would be virtually impossible to make a meaningful drug case and he doubted it would be pursued.
Backtracking a little here, but, how can people who have been under such heavy surveillance by LE and the media be so stupid as to be trafficking in drugs. It’s as if nothing ever happened and they are going about their usual affairs. They are drug addicts with no inner moral codes, no sense of consequences. This is their world. One member is “gone” and life goes on for them. They are more concerned with their next fix, as Tommy’s fantasies indicate, than anything going on around them. Hate to say it but I wonder if Tommy or the others main concern now is how to get drugs in prison. Not sure they think beyond that. When Misty went to Mass after Chelsea or Tim (forgot which one) was in a car accident was she thinking about the pain killers they may be getting? I have known people addicted to meds and their lives are dictated by this hidden agenda. They can come up with excuses at a moments notice when questioned and just get angry if they feel like they are being interrogated. I think part of their pleasure might be their dirty little secret. JMO
Great point Karon about fear and the drug boys taking them, and all their words and actions after the fact reeks of mourning and grief not fear, they knew Haleigh was dead. jmo
Thanks for the link CathyJo- I completly missed that
Again I ask.. what is her youtube.com name? Jesus I was in Welaka all day and this topic comes up at the bait store every time someone comes in.
I was wondering what the thing with Misty mentioning the blankets too. True, she keeps changing her story except for the pee blankets and at one point she talks about it with a defensive tone in her voice saying that you wouldn’t put your kids to bed with pee blankets, nobody wants to put their kids to bed with pee blankets so thats why i washed them…it is strange. i also heard there was not laundry detergent and that Rons gma washes the kids stuff usually so…
Chakra,very interesting info!!!
To me, these people have the classic symptoms of mental illness. The confusion, the bizarre thoughts and behavior, the vivid dreams, the hallucinations, irritableness, violent, etc. Then add some withdrawals or flashbacks, etc. I believe they have no concept of reality most of the time, especially when you throw drugs in there.
I think it is highly possible that one of them had a psychotic episode that night and doesn’t know what they did. They don’t know if it was real or not. Not saying it was Misty, but look at her history and look at the ‘different Mistys’ we have seen. One day crying like she is 13 y/o, the next like a 4 y/o who can’t respond to a question about what happened, then on a super high when getting married, then arrogant Misty walking around in front of the cameras, then smartass know it all Misty during the drug deal. Throw in all the lies. So which personality is it? Im not saying its Tommy either, but he could of had a drug induced psychosis. He likes to make sure he says on tape that “he remembers exactly what he does when he is high on pills”. Why would we need to know that? Maybe because Misty points out that he doesn’t and that he does all kinds of things he doesn’t remember doing. Plus, he apparently has some level of mental illness or they both have some mental retardation level and then add in drugs! Geeeez.
btw you’re welcome Chakra! lol
Meant that “Lyndsy” points out that he doesn’t remember anything he says and does.
Simon.. you are so right.. That was one heck of a statement Tommy made, and if Le even stopped to think about it… and there is any truth in it.. We will all need to go out for a drink, even if we don’t drink !!!
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T: Ever since she got with ronald man
L: I don’t know if she thinks this is a game.
Tommy: I think its what Ronald told us, thats what happened.
Now he is kicking himself in the ass cos he told
Now its probably too late
Now they know if they give the kid up they are f##ked. But the police don’t want to hear that.
I think she is covering for somebody
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LoL Jen……
getting married, then arrogant Misty walking around in front of the cameras, then smartass know it all Misty during the drug deal. Throw in all the lies. So which personality is it?
ROFL!
“one flew over the cuckoo’s nest” don’t even compare to these idiots Jen!
CathyJo:
AH and LP said Lyndsy was furious that Tommy didn’t tell her he was taking the LDT while she was in Mass, and she was furious that he hadn’t told her that he failed. AH said Lyndsy said she didn’t know what to believe anymore. I think Lyndsy was getting ready to leave before the LDT, but that is just from listening to the tapes. I think the I love you’s from Lyndsy were getting further and further apart. She was losing weight, tickled to death with her new life, and IMO moving on out the door.
brb
LOL CathyJo isn’t it comforting knowing that smartass smug Misty and all are sitting and probably (hopefully) gonna rot in jail. I’m normally never spitefull but the senseless death of that beutiful baby gets me so outraged
Trotline Designs:
What are the local people saying?
Chrome, what post are you talking about?
I heard that it was a ‘tip’ the police were investigating about bones being planted on Crystal’s parents property.
When they arrived there was no problem (no warrant required) to search the property which they did and found animal bones only.
Didn’t hear about the crack pipe – boy, is there anyone in, associated with, or around this family that are not into drugs!!
Ann
Truthisforeigntocroslins:
I wonder if the blankets could have been on Misty’s mind. Just like she kept mentioning her long curly brown hair in the 9-1-1 call, because it may have been the last thing Misty saw. The blanket and Haleigh’s long brown hair spilling out of it may have been on Misty’s mind because it may have been the last thing that she saw of Haleigh. This is just a thought.
I agree chakara7 and Karon, that makes sense. I still wonder how Ron’s mom plays into this. I would think if she was against all this drug stuff, it would show in her words and actions. I know everyone’s different, but I would think normally one would be speaking out against at least, Misty doing drugs while watching her grandchildren. Like being flaming verbally against it and condemning her for it, I have only heard her defend Misty. Has she spoke out against the drug use around the children?
Mexican Mafia – didn’t Tommy and Sr discuss this in an earlier tape (Sr brought it up) and Tommy said he told LE this and they don’t believe it? Or something similar to that.
Karon..
The locals think Ron and Misty did harm to Haleigh. When you go to the Welaka Drug Store all the truths come out. Welaka Bait and Tackle is another story. We have no idea we just wonder like everyone else.. link to the vids would be nice.
If you are ever in Welaka at the Welaka Bait and Tackle though.. look for a shaved head guy.. that would be me and that is my store.
Just one more comment for today.
Interesting observations by JenM.
Heard that taking drugs stunts intelligence and one tends to stay at the age where one first starts taking heavy dosages.
This seems to hold true for this crowd as they appear to be twenty plus year olds with early teenage minds.
Ann
Trotline, can you give us details as to what is being said? And what are folks saying about the grandma’s?
YouTube site for Lindsey, anyone?
Chrome, Lindsy banned the vulgar poster (about time). I hope people complain to YouTube about him and his account is closed.
She wrote 3 hrs ago (on his channel page): “You are rude, obnoxious and a poor excuse for a human. You are blocked”.
Another person is now posting vulgar comments on Lindsy’s page, and on the page of the person Lindsy banned.
I think I’ll report both of the vulgar mouthed posters to YouTube. Haven’t read the YouTube policy, but I’m pretty sure such language isn’t permitted.
Lindsy did the right thing – banning the poster, and she did it with class.
stilllucy, it’s LindsyLpn… but not sure if it’s really hers. Although if it’s not hers, why is it still up?
thanks Trotline – interesting to hear the local perspective
stilllucy, I posted it for you at 6:22. Beware – there are nasty posts from a person she banned.
We don’t hear TC saying, TiC won’t be back to Fl. because he is too afraid of the drugboys taking his kids, or that he fears for his kids. No, he goes into a rant about the cops dogging their family and won’t leave them alone. We also don’t hear about that being the reason ToC wants out of Fl., either. If that was what really happened to Haleigh, they would have fear. There is no fear in any of them, just fear of the cops catching them in their illegal activities.
@Jason I have not been rude.. @beautiful*adams I would be happy to share what we talk about. We all believe that it was a drug deal gone bad and Ron did this to cover his ass.
LindsyLpn isn’t right or she deleted it. Perhaps there is an underscore or something?
@ 10:16: “Another person is now posting vulgar comments on Lindsy’s page, and on the page of the person Lindsy banned” should only read “Another person is posting vulgar comments about Lindsy on the page of the person Lindsy banned.
I don’t want to promote the vulgar posters channel, so will just say that if you wish to read her comment to him, just follow his link from her channel.
Trotline;
I’ve heard another local say that friends have said Ron was late to work Feb 9 2009…and drunk…allegedly from co-workers talking to another local. You haering that or other juicy?
Karon said,in May 5th, 2010 at 9:58 pm CathyJo:
AH and LP said Lyndsy was furious that Tommy didn’t tell her he was taking the LDT while she was in Mass, and she was furious that he hadn’t told her that he failed. AH said Lyndsy said she didn’t know what to believe anymore. I think Lyndsy was getting ready to leave before the LDT, but that is just from listening to the tapes. I think the I love you’s from Lyndsy were getting further and further apart. She was losing weight, tickled to death with her new life, and IMO moving on out the door.
So do I Karon.ty for the information though,i wondered exactly how it came about but i noticed the I luv you’s too!
I object to the page being up at all. That comment about Gods will… and Tommy sleep walking is bull. What a F*c&^ng Libertine!!
Thank you, Trotline. The people from that area have more of a feel for the situation than the rest of us. Local people always have more details than LE lets out to anyone else.
Do the local people think it was an accident or on purpose?
Also, do the local people think the three that are in jail will get long sentences like Hope did?
chakra7 said,in May 5th, 2010 at 10:00 pm LOL CathyJo isn’t it comforting knowing that smartass smug Misty and all are sitting and probably (hopefully) gonna rot in jail. I’m normally never spitefull but the senseless death of that beutiful baby gets me so outraged
Exactly Right Chakra,they had every chance to be honest and maybe Haleigh would still be around but thanx to all the lyin and covering up….somewhere they have forgotten the REAL VICTIM,imvho
link worked for me…
Love the Till Tuesday video she faved…Voices Carry
Hush Hush…keep it down down, voices carry…hush hush…LMAO!
Going to work BBS 1hr
and Chakra,i am angry to,I could bite nails into and a hammer for that matter!
no ann there isn’t,sad! mg used to deal drugs herself!
@Karon
We live on Beechers Point. We don’t live in the part of Welaka they live in but we all talk about it and we all think that Ron killed Haleigh before he went to work and that is why the conflicts in the stories about what happened that night. Can I please get the link to the page of Tommy’s wife?
Beautiful, the ‘darkangels_ _ t68’ who has posted a vulgar response to Lindsy’s comment to the person she banned, is also the person who claimed the LindsyLPN channel doesn’t belong to Lindsy Croslin.
‘darkangels_ _ t68’ has one video on his or her channel. It is a skinhead video.
@HollysGmom
I just don’t know. We only vacation in Welaka and were abashed when we saw our town on national TV and these scum bags getting married in a trailer!
Jason @10:34… yeah I know her posts!
TrotlineDesigns said,in May 5th, 2010 at 10:32 pm @Karon
We live on Beechers Point. We don’t live in the part of Welaka they live in but we all talk about it and we all think that Ron killed Haleigh before he went to work and that is why the conflicts in the stories about what happened that night. Can I please get the link to the page of Tommy’s wife?
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makes me wonder too why he said Haleigh rode on his lap and
about sykes saying she saw Haleigh,imo she lied! thats the only reason gsykes has to lie for,protect ron!
TrotlineDesigns said,in May 5th, 2010 at 10:32 pm @Karon
We live on Beechers Point. We don’t live in the part of Welaka they live in but we all talk about it and we all think that Ron killed Haleigh before he went to work and that is why the conflicts in the stories about what happened that night. Can I please get the link to the page of Tommy’s wife?
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makes me wonder too why he said Haleigh rode on his lap and
about sykes saying she saw Haleigh,imo she lied! thats the only reason gsykes has to lie for,protect ron!
i would never harm anyone Chakra.but these nuts deserve all they get and then some!
i would never harm anyone Chakra.but these nuts deserve all they get and then some!
Beautiful, Lindsy’s getting attention from people like that is frightening. I’m hoping to find a complaint button on YouTube. I thought I saw a ‘flag this as inappropriate’ link somewhere, but can’t find it now.
Trotline, follow the link @ 6:22 pm.
Again the link to her youtube would be nice.. would love to see her vents!!!
I am tired of defending them when not one of them have ever defended Haleigh!
I am so over it! I never ever once wanted to even entertain the idea of r or m but all these ppl and no one knows what happened,yea right! so it tells me one thing,they’re covering for one another! as much mud slinging as they have done to one another and still no truth about Haleigh…….Impossible!if one of them knew one tiny scrap the beans would have been poured out already but not one has slipped or told anything helpful……..theyre in cahoots!!!!!!!!!
the groom wore a black wifebeater at the wedding!
only in florida!
Jason… at the very bottom on the home page click help… and follow that thru to contact us.
Holly, and “He loves me, only part of the time”.
only 3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead! hmm
I am over it!
THX, Beautiful, will do.
OMG! I can’t stand to listen to more than 10 minutes of this stuff. I ditto what a lot of others say about how selfish each of them are….there is something not right with them and all their “I love you” phrasing as if it was something to say in order to not have silence, it isn’t realistic. TC sounds a lot like his dad, especially the tone of the voice and the habitual ‘ha, ha’ all the time.
I’ll just read all the comments from those of you that could endure listening to them. Thanks Simon for the work you did on this.
OMG Jason,SKINHEADS’ WELL AINT THAT AS FITTIN AS A BUFFALOS HOOF IN A BABY SOCK…..ASK aDAMS!!!!! SHEESH
Sorry,i need “duck tape” my caps,forget!
Completly AGREE CathyJo, and about Sykes and Teresa I think they have always covered for Ron,look at all the drug busts he got off of I think they wouldn’t think twice about lying and covering for ron
lol@trot,see her vents,lol
bingo Chakra,so it says ALOT!!!!!!!!!
i’D BE DOWN AT THE JAIL STRETCHIN SOME NECKS AROUND SOME BARS RIGHT ABOUT NOW,NO….LONG AGO!
Oops ,i quit,i aint LOL no more,lol forget!
how come my links never work?
I tried to answer the poster about lyndsay’s tube page buy it don’t appear? whad up wit dat?
Jason said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Beautiful, Lindsy’s getting attention from people like that is frightening. I’m hoping to find a complaint button on YouTube. I thought I saw a ‘flag this as inappropriate’ link somewhere, but can’t find it now.
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Good luck with youtube doing anything. Lindsy was told about it and tried to get it removed and they haven’t done so yet..
and dark shades OJ! Boy his future was bright!
Sparky,and the that is so funny……whats so damn funny…..Lindsey would saY THAT IF HE SAID HE’D SMACK HER HEAD OFF!
Ill fittin is right Cathy… they all are squirrelly.
i THINK THEY ALL FELL OUTTA OF THE STUPID TREE AND HIT EVERY LIMB ALL THE WAY DOWN!
makes me so angry Adams,I ain’t been this bad since……….well i dunno but i swear it getsa to me!
Jason, the post on LC’s YT account was not her post against LP, it was from a flaming troll on her page who she claims she blocked, as per her message calling him basically scum, on his page. Hope that helps so people don’t think she bad mouthed LP that way. She did not, it was some other person.
are there more tapes??
i had not been paying much attention to the tapes while Ted has been here but man do they say alot!!!!!! how these people think,I will never know!
how would I know cat? 🙂
know what? lol
OJ… are you crushing on CathyJo?
stilllucy said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Like I said renewed interest in the search at the river thanks, tobias.
Ron, Misty and Teresa/That’s why Teresa got there in under 5min.
Timmy and Chelsea got out of Dodge to protect their kids because they were brought in by Misty not Tommy & Joe
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It’s on the police report that TN arrived there after PCSO so she was not there in 5 mins.
know what? lol oh,no i was just saying with those dark glasses on whilst he is getting married………his future was so bright he had to wear shades,lol
seriously tho,if my hubby to be wore dark shades when he said his vows……….ohhhhhhhNo! especially the 1st marriage,lol
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in May 5th, 2010 at 11:04 pm OJ… are you crushing on CathyJo?
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who isn’t? 🙂
I thought TN said she beat them there cuz she told Greta she thought o well,if i speed they’ll be more help when i get there…..i dunno though!
O.J.:
I thought my link didn’t work, either. When I clicked on the post comment space, it came thru.
lol OJ!
OJ… she is very crushable!
Lyndsay’s yt
http://www.youtube.com/user/LindsyLPN
This is her, it has been there awhile and she talks to others close to the case like this girl who Misty writes from jail:
http://www.youtube.com/user/crystalrollen#p/u/4/IoZuX3GovKI
The trolls were a group who just pretended to be the croslins leaving nasty stuff on the sites of people who commented on other yt vids of the case. It was totally random vulgur crap and the one left is the only one I wasn’t ab;e to get removed, I reported all the others awhile back and they are gone now. It is not worth giving them attention because they love it, I am not giving them any attention.
The most recent change to lc’s yt is her background pic is a dif pic of her now. I think she has changed her name to her maiden name too, at least on myspace she did, to collins or something.
Not to OJ,he hates women,lol /only teasin Oj!
I can’t say much about OJ,he’s a really good guy when he’s asleep! lol
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in May 5th, 2010 at 11:11 pm OJ… she is very crushable!
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it would be my pleasure 🙂
Uh oh PAUSE “I love you”
I stand corrected. Teresa arrived in 3-5 minutes after receiving the call from her son, Ron. I believe she arrived after the 2nd car arrived on scene.
he likes women who rob banks and loses other peoples children…..rofl!
Ron should have called his mother to check on Misty that night, she’s only 3-5 minutes away.
ROFLMAO@Mary! ty,now that is funny and I ain’t lindsey!
Chrome, Under ‘recent Activity’, Lindsy only posted a “Thank-you, sweety” to Leonard after he bought phone minutes for her. In her post about ‘investigators’, she didn’t name Leonard or any other investigator.
‘Troll’ posts, such as the worst – from ‘Dan_’, are on the right side of the page under ‘Channel comments’.
Only Lindsy, or someone who has her account logins, can post on the right side under ‘Recent Activity’.
The posts we’re talking about no longer show; they’ve been replaced with more recent activity.
I reported the vulgar posts, on grounds they are sexual harrassment.
Chrome, should read “Only Lindsy, or someone who has her account logins, can post on the LEFT side under ‘Recent Activity’. Right side is for comments from everyone.
CathyJo63 said,in May 5th, 2010 at 11:20 pm he likes women who rob banks and loses other peoples children…..rofl!
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you would shoplift for me..
after you got to know me 🙂
she just seemed weird when she explained to Greta why she got there so fast,too nmuch detail i thought!
LoL Jason,i can’t believe lp can’t see right thru her! I can!
maryd:
I think he did. That must have been the screeching cars or trucks or whatever…..
Too funny!
I prolly would OJ,A dog leash to choke you wiff,lol
LOL “I love you”
That is so funny……lol giggle giggle
I think the AC man holds the key! Can’t be Nay Nay.
Chrome, let me clarify a little further! I read over it and it confused me!
Lindsy’s ‘thank-you’ to Leonard, and comment about the ‘investigators’ (under Recent Activity on the left), no longer shows due to more recent activity.
The vulgar comments on the right still show, but I’ve reported them to YouTube – hopefully they’ll at the least be removed – will be nice to see the poster’s account closed.
but i love you!
maryd said,in May 5th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
LOL “I love you”
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thanks but I’m cathyjos
I think theres more to him,maybe le knows too,,,,i hope so!
Love u 2
My account needs money
lol oj
omg what if somebody started a rumor that lindsey was crushing on padilla,god tommy would lose what hair he does have!
lol lindsey told him he was too hairy,his forehead was wrinkled,it was like,haha i can call you ugly but nuttin you can do!
you better be good to my dog dammit!
You’re right Cathy think she finally has him by the hotdog buns.
poor dogs prolly on cloud 9 cuz he’s gone rofl!
LOL maryd @ 11:30!
you need to make him mind you,be good to my dog though! sheesh!
& 11:33: True!
thats how i took it Mary,he’s about to wake up without falling asleep first imo!
Why do so many dealers have pit bulls? There is no punch line to this.
hopefully she won’t fall for another like him but who knows!
LOL CathyJo @ 11:31!
“WBG” is available now
cuz theyre viscious!
Did someone use the word “troll” on Lindsey’s page? That’s like old school. Someone called me that on here the other night.
worst dog to have around kids,their jawls actually lock when they bite! they go for the throat,I saw it happen!
I just learned that word :O StillL
troll,thats one i ain’t been called but that’ll change no doubt…right OJ? LOL
Strange that Tommy wanted a Pit Bull cause he ain’t no dealer.
Where did Ronald get a big rat to put in Tommy’s mail box??
THEY ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE,ONE SECOND THEY’LL BE GOOD…NEXT THEY WILL TEAR YOU APART…..for no reason,its how they are made,lol
I saw one knock a grown man on his back and go for the guys throat,my hubby happened to be really quick on his feet or the guy would not have had an adams apple,i know that,everyday someone is basically killed by a pitbull,mostly kids! You can own them for yrs and one day they just change!
prolly out of one of his other relatives mail box,lol good grief! lol seriously tho i dunno!
Yea, we know too much about ol darkangelslut on you tube…don’t we cent…LMFAO!
Great dog to have around kids, right? Crazy.
exactly Mary but i sure hope she’s good to his dog!
I love u!
CathyJo63;
You’re right about those dorgs. CHow-Chow too.They can be pampered family pets then one day…wham…attack, sometimes killing. A school friend of mine had it happen to her. They’d had the dog since a pup, no mistreatment, very happy, then around age 12…went psycho one day and almost bit girls leg off.
maryd;
Rats in swampy/wooded areas are plentiful, especially large wood rats.
thats right Holly’s!
look them up online,they even look like killers!
Oh no now I’m thinking about the dog. Could Misty have gone to Tommy’s with the kids? No, I won’t go there.
there was a dog barking complaint that night but i think it knew tommy was up to no good!
cuz i dunno why they’d hide an accident,or dog attack but god they’re goofy….who knows!
Wow! Ne angle…interesting…however, if that dog had attacked and killed Haleigh, it’s hard to imagine Lindsy would still have it this long after Tommy went inside. There is something with that barking dog complaint…I feel it.
*new
Yea i think that was at 2:30am, something like that. Probably when Tommy was getting home from his ventures.
Getting ready to transcribe new audio…will pop in along the way.
Hi everyone….this is a very good site….I was wondering if anyone ever thought about where Junior might fit in to all this…if he was at a party or in the mobile home, I don’t think a 3 year old would stay quiet for a year if he saw or heard his sister getting attacked…for sure he would have told someone…also, since the van got mentioned the other day and there was something about a dent…do you think these people could have been high and accidently ran over Haleigh with that van…just a thought….
I think OJ couldn’t handle all the love.
CathyJo63 said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
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The dog barking complaint was actually called in on February 4th. LE didn’t actually respond until the 10th for some reason. No idea why it took 6 days.
That makes no sense J. To go to someone’s house 6 days later at 2: something AM. Someone had to call that night too. Maybe
Marybeth;
Many of us question the nights events as they surround Jr. If something happened inside MH why didn’t he hear it or if he did why not talking about it? Could he have been coached into silence or a “story”. WHat if the story that he gave was coached by ROn and/or Misty? to make it look like a stranger/SO abduction? One then wonders why would Ron say coached by Crystal/imply it? I’m still trying to figure out why he lied about the fight about stolen gun.
you’re kidding J??
tHEN WHY WAS A COP AT tOMMYS JUST BEFORE THE 911?
sorry.grrrr caps!
man it keeps getting stranger!
marybeth said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Hi everyone….this is a very good site….I was wondering if anyone ever thought about where Junior might fit in to all this…if he was at a party or in the mobile home, I don’t think a 3 year old would stay quiet for a year if he saw or heard his sister getting attacked…for sure he would have told someone…also, since the van got mentioned the other day and there was something about a dent…do you think these people could have been high and accidently ran over Haleigh with that van…just a thought….
Hi Marybeth,
Yes I thought of that tonight, earlier post. Definitely a possibility to me.
I dunno how i have forgotten all this stuff!
but i thought the dog complaint was same day!
ty tho!
earlier that day a woman screaming complaint was called in,then the dog that night,i must be wrong but thats what i thought!
There was a non emergency disturbance call at 2am there a cop responded named Greenwood, took a report, reported that Misty was there and HaLeigh was seen too. Isn’t that right, Holly’s Gmom?
I know my elevator doesn’t reach the top floor but this is ridiculous,how did i forget all this?
green lane is tommy and l’s addy!
how the hell did they see Haleigh,it was called to tommys on greene lane wasn’t it Adams or Holly’s or anybody besides me,lol
because they said the cop was at tommys house when Misty called 911!
That’s what I have heard Cathy. They were called there about a dog barking disturbance.
CathyJo, 202 Green Lane is the MH.
right Mary,i have always heard that! its hard enough figuring these nuts out but it keeps changing so ya never know but i mean this was reported by news and all so……..beats me!
Ron’s Jason??? oboy,i swear i need a white coat with the arms in the back,then whats t and l’s addy?
I can’t remember exactly, we were chatting about this the other night. I remember reading about neighbor accounts on webslueths. There was alot of stuff there that’s either been forgotten or over looked the last 15 months. But the cop, had said that Misty was reportly involved in the disturbance but it was over by the time police arrived. Tommy wasn’t mentioned. There were reports of screeching vehicles on Green and Tyler, screaming, arguing, traffic from like 2am until HaLeigh was reported missing. There was a couple that lived across the way from Ron that reported some of this activity and they moved right after all of this happened. They haven’t been contacted since, just hope that LE know where they are now.
I don’t know, let me see if i can find it.
Gosh Lucy,i need a brain transplant cuz at one time i knew all this and now it don’t even ring a bell!
Thank you,maybe it was Tyler st. Jason?
On Webslueths’ site they have a thread that is dedicated solely to neighbors’ accounts of activities of that night.
I tend to go back and forth from here and there because they usually back there items up with links and Levi Page is associated with them.
Wouldn’t that had been a “Bombshell” report if Misty was at Tyler for that call?
maryd said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 12:03 am
That makes no sense J. To go to someone’s house 6 days later at 2: something AM. Someone had to call that night too.
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Believe what you want. I’ve seen the police report.
The complaint was made on February 4th at 1:35pm. The neighbor said the dog was barking for 6 hours straight. The report said contact was made on February 10th at 11:00 am.
Take the information or leave it. There is a police report to back up what I am saying.
right Lucy,i visit several,i don’t blog but read them cuz no one knows for sure yet if reports are true,so who knows which site will be right? ya know….and hey we gotta dig for ourselves!
116 Tyler was Lindsy/Tom’s address. I’m looking for the barking dog complaint . . .
Geez j? thats odd!
I thought when someone called 911 or whatever they had to go.lol
Levi takes his questions right from this site for his blog/radio show. They have a thread for questions. It seems to be a pretty thorough site for accurate info. There’s also info about all the vehicles involved.
ty Jason!
hmm Lucy,i didn’t know that!
ya know…..It bugs me somehow that m said they drove to somewhere? to get the outfit Haleigh wanted to wear to school,I guess its possible but most 5 yr olds wear what momma puts on them!
hmm possibly could they have went to that place..i forget the name of it but to maybe dispose of something and was seen there so they said they went to get her clothes!
J
The report was at 11:00am (morning), so maybe there was another complaint that night (early morning) prior to Misty’s call.
Well Cathy, anything is possible with that bunch of LIARS…….
CathyJo:
UCN: 542009CO000052XXAXCX
File Date: 2009-02-27 Judge: JAMES L PADGETT
Defense Atty:
Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2009-02-27 1 LOCAL ORD CITN: #09-1334 (02-10-09) PCSO/R CLARKE
2009-02-27 1 PUBLIC ANIMAL NUSIANCE
2009-02-27 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 03/12/2009
2009-02-27 2 OFFICER’S REPORT
2009-04-17 3 $57.00 LOCAL ORDINANCE FINE PAID
wow,ty Jaon!
for sure Lucy!
The one above was written to Tom in Febr. In May, one was written to Lindsy:
UCN: 542009CO000119XXAXCX
File Date: 2009-05-05 Judge: JAMES L PADGETT
Defense Atty:
Defendant
CROSLIN, LINDSY K
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2009-05-05 1 LOCAL ORD CIT #09-3893 (05/02/09) PCSO/C MANNING
2009-05-05 1 PUBLIC ANIMAL NUSIANCE (BARKING)
2009-05-05 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 06/02/2009
2009-05-05 2 INCIDENT REPORT
2009-06-19 3 $57.00 LOCAL ORDINANCE FINE PAID
has Flora been back on n/g? since i have been away!
not away,lol but since i’ve been getting to know my brother….
But, the date on Tom’s is not the 10th of Febr. Story about the barking dog that night not true?
thats too weird!
CathyJo, She’s been on Levi page’s show – you can play it any time from his page on BNN.
*Spoiler: She doesn’t think Haleigh was drugged at the MH.
Grandma Flo hasn’t been on NG but she was on the full hour with Levi last Sunday night.
Part 1 of this audio transcript:
Tommy: Hello
Lindsy: Hey baby
Tommy: They just took a picture of you…
Lindsy: What?
Tommy: Yea, you didn’t see that flash?
Lindsy: No. Why?
TOmmy: I don’t know…probably to put on tv
Lindsy: Are you serious?
Tommy: (laughs)
Lindsy: Are you serious?
Tommy: I guess, that’ what everybody said…there was a Fn flash it’s your picture being took. I don’t know…
Lindsy: Oh well…
TOmmy: I love ya…
Lindsy: I love you too…It so rainy today..
TOmmy: I know, I’ve been looking out the window and it’s rainy as h*ll…
Lindsy: We’ve been under a tornado watches and stuff…
Tommy: Really?
Lindsay: HmmHmmm It’s been raining all night & all day..
Tommy: Yea…What time is it?
Lindsy:I should of….??? if I’d of known they were gonna take my picture..lol
TOmmy: Yea…(Yelling to someone in background) What time?
Lindsy: 2:00
TOmmy: 2:00?
Lindsy: Umm hmmm
Tommy: Yea, I’ve been waitin for ya…
Lindsy: You didn’t get much sleep did you? (Hee Heee Hee)
TOmmy: No…
Lindsy: You have eaten?
Tommy: Yea, Scott tried to eat some of it…(Laughs)
Lindsy: (Laughs) I love you, I miss you…
Tommy: I miss you too..did you have fun at the gym?
Lindsy: Yea, I’m going back tonight
Tommy: Are ya?
Lindsy: I’ve got a spinning class…(laughs)
TOmmy: A what?
Lindsy: SPinning Class?..
Tommy: What’s that about?
Lindsy: It has all theses, like, weird looking bikes and they have like music and it’s supposed to be really good for like your abs and thighs…
Tommy: Who’s all going? Just you Ashley and Lisa?
Lindsy: Lisa’s not going, Ashley just texted me and said she wants to try it.
Tommy: Yea…
Lindsy: Lisa’s going to a birthday party, she’s been cheatin anyway..she’s ain’t gonna loose no weight.
TOmmy: (Laughs) Yea…..
Lindsy: I’ve…I’ve lost 7 pounds
Tommy: Yea, well, don’t loose too much..
Lindsy: I’m not…I’m not…I’m just trying to…but I’m gonna gain it in muscle…you knowwhat I mean…
TOmmy: Silly…
Lindsy: Be buff….(Laughs 3times)
TOmmy: You better stop…(Laughs)
Lindsy: (Laughs again)
Tommy: D@mn it! (laughs)
Lindsy: (Laughs) I love you…
Tommy: I love you too…I miss you…
Lindsy: I miss you baby…
Tommy: You get any mail from me today?
Lindsy: I didn’t check the mail today..it’s pouring (laughs)
TOmmy: Well, you need to check it…
Lindsy: I’ll check it today, but I haven’t checked it yet…I don’t know…
Tommy: I sent you something else out today…
Lindsy: Ok…I don’t knowwhat time my mail runs…
Tommy: I don’t know..
Lindsy: I’ll have to figure it out…call the post office
Tommy: But if…I sent you two letters out this week.
Lindsy: Ok…
Tommy: So you should get em this week…If you don’t get em you need to find out why the F you ain’t gettin em! Cause you ain’t got all the sh*t I wrote ya.
Lindsy: Um mmm (Negative)
TOmmy: It’s BS! There ain’t no reason for them to keep it…(Laughs)
Lindsy: I hear that…
Tommy: Did ya? (laughs)
Lindsy: Yea,,,(Laughs)
Tommy: Ugghh….
Lindsy: So what time did you get up today?
Tommy: Like noon…I was..I was up at early but it was still dark out so I just kind of laid there and slept a little bit on and off…
Lindsy: (Laughs) I figured you weren’t gonna get up….you usually don’t get up by this time..(Laughs)
TOmmy: No…
Lindsy: I love you..You look really good today.
Tommy: Thank ya…you do too.
Lindsy: (Laughs) You look really sexy…
Tommy: Than you…you do too babe.
Both: (Laughs)
Tommy: You ain’t heard nothin about the van gettin fixed? You take it to Willard?
Lindsy: Uh no, I didn’t take it to Willard..I think…they’re talking about putting a new engine in…but my friend’s comming..the week after I get back from M..S…
TOmmy: Who’s that?
Lindsy: You know who I’m talking about…
Tommy: Oh…alright…
Lindsy: Don’t say it..don’t say it..
TOmmy: Alright…
Lindsy: So…
Tommy: So, maybe…he..It’ll be able to get out of here before I go to court…on bond…cause he’ll probably..
Lindsy: Yea, I know..he said hopefully he can have you home by…when I get home.
Tommy: (sniffs) I hope he can too..
Lindsy: That’s what he said…he said “Wouldn’t that be nice if you comehome and he was there?” I said “Yea!”
Tommy: He’s got three weeks. Three weeks till I go to court.
Lindsy: I know…
Tommy: So he is comming down?…He’ll probably be at the courthouse
Lindsy: Well,no..He’s going to..no… after I get home…but if he has to come down sooner he said he will but probably not till after I come home.
Tommy: Uh…ok…
Lindsy: He said..He said wouldn’t it be nice to have you home and I said “Yea” (Laughs)
TOmmy: (Laughs) Yea…it would. For a little while…
Lindsy: Yep…..(Laughs)
TOmmy: Yea it would for a little while
Lindsy: yep..
TOmmy: I’m sure I’m gonna get some type of time off of all this. I’m ..I’ve already come to accept that.
Lindsy: Yea, well, we’ll just see what
Tommy: I hope it’s not thatlong…you know…
Lindsy: ..might even be 18 months…
TOmmy: MIght even be longer…but I’m not going to let it bother me. Wrote in my letter, you know how I act like this chit don’t bother me, it does. I just gotta make the best out of it. This Fn sh*t hurts me bad,..not being home with my family..my kids..I miss you guys.
Lindsy: we miss you too…51 days today….
Tommy: Yea…about as ..try to make the best out of this.
Lindsy: Yea, I know…
TOmmy: The best out of a bad situation. I can’t Fn be worried and stressed out n sh*t, I’ll die in here.
Aprrox (start – 5:45 minutes)
That little doggy barkin’ gets expensive!
Thank You Jason! I’ll sure check it out!
Jason said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 12:46 am
But, the date on Tom’s is not the 10th of Febr. Story about the barking dog that night not true?
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Why does it say Feb 10, 2009 in brackets?
Jason;
There are multiples for Lindsy Sr and Hank Jr. The feb 09 2009 one was signed off on by Linsdy…I’ve posted the link here before…I know it’s there or at least was there…
It says 2-10-2009 in brackets to show that the incedent occured after midnight Feb 09 2009 so technically it was Feb 10, 2009.
so does dog shampoo,lmao ! lindsey had to buy dog shampoo but starve her yungins!
CathyJo63 said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 12:31 am
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It is odd. I have absolutely NO IDEA why LE would bother to issue a citation on a barking dog when they have a missing child to handle. Seems ludicrous, IMO.
The docket that Jason posted is the citation that is mentioned in the police report. It was issued on 2-10-09, so that must be one in the same. What a waste on LE personnel (IMO). If there was a dog barking for 6 hours, why wait 6 days to send an officer to the Croslins?
The complaint being made on the 4th really threw off all my thinking regarding the barking dog. I had thought the dog barking was in the middle of the night on the 9th. When I saw the report, I had to go back to square one regarding all that…. lol, wasn’t the first time.
Yes it does, Mary! Yahoo! Now we know for sure.
maryd said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 12:51 am
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The 2-10 is in brackets because that is the day of the citation was issued. It was docketed on February 27th.
UCN: 542009CO000052XXAXCX
File Date: 2009-02-27 Judge: JAMES L PADGETT
Defense Atty:
Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2009-02-27 1 LOCAL ORD CITN: #09-1334 (02-10-09) PCSO/R CLARKE
Loved chattin wiff yas,but better get to bed,we are going to ky tomorrow to see where we were born! well so Ted can see where we were born,I already knew! LoL
hugs,be safe!
I think some of the I Love You’s are code for them to now when to change the subject. I am not sure if someone else already noticed this or not.
i love you. i love you. i love you. i love you more. no, i do. i love you. love you. love you.
I love little baby ducks, old pick-up trucks, slow-moving trains, and rain
I love little country streams, sleep without dreams, sunday school in may,
And hay
And i love you too
This I love you thing is like a virus. It reminds me of my dear grammy’s short term
memory attacks where she would say the same thing to me every two minutes.
sorry I meant know not now
Night Cathy, enjoy your day tomorrow. I’m off to. Nite all.
J @ 12:54 am: As a small town, Satsuma would have just a few officers on a shift. Whomever responded to the barking dog complaint may have proceeded to Green Lane without writing up the complaint.
Hope,i don’t doubt that you are right!! thats a good point!
sorta like the C-M-A from L/A! crazies!
Me too Kids.
Be safe.
Have fun!
G’nite guys!
Hope you and Ted have a great day tomorrow, CathyJo! Goodnite!
Pinky 1:00am
Funny, LOL.
Hope, yes I did consider it being code.
Sleep well, CathyJo!
Thanx Guys,lol really gone now,see?? lol
you too Pinky,sweet dreams to all,ok now i am gone,lo
Pinky @ 1:00: Like a virus, and short term memory repeats – LOL!!
bbl
If you go to the Weather Underground website and look at the rainfall amount graph – It spikes on March 11th, 2010. There was also a
tornado warning on that date. It’s probably
that day, or perhaps the next one… when
this tape was made.
3.11 Thursday or 3.12 Friday
Tornado warning was canceled on the 12th at 3:30 pm.
Does anyone remember Misty telling her thoughts about ‘laying a fake rose’ somewhere in the woods that night, but she doesn’t know if it is a dream or not?
Maybe Misty strongly thinks Tommy did this, but isn’t sure, but at the same time, she is relying on him to not tell Ron about what she was doing that night with who, so she is torn both ways. I think tommy is trying to put the blame on everyone but himself. He doesn’t care who it is, as long as it isn’t him.
The focus this whole time has been on Misty, and I don’t think she is some mastermind that can fool the FBI, etc. I think she can’t remember anything in any sequence or clearly. I don’t think she has the ability to cover things up this long, unless she has multiple personalities….?
Tommy sure can’t lie well about anything since the focus turned to him. He breaks.
Tommy said 51 days.
51 would March 13th… a Saturday. hmmmm
Disclaimer:
Tommy has been known to be OFF. lol
Sheriff Hardy’s son is arrested. He has a different name, this is from a local, because he was emancipated and took his step father’s name.
JOSHUA TROY IMM
SATSUMA, FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/6/2010 12:50:14 AM – Booking#: 10-01942
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 1/17/1984 – RACE: W – SEX: M
Charges Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
893.149-1a DRUGS-POSSESS LISTED CHEMICAL WIT MANUFACTURE CNTRL SUBS F S $2,504.00
827.03-1c CRUELTY TOWARD CHILD URGE OTHER TO ACT RESULT PHYS MENTAL INJURY F T $1,004.00
893.13-1a1 DRUGS-SELL SELL METHAMPHETAMINE F S $2,504.00
893.147-1 NARCOTIC EQUIP-POSSESS AND OR USE M F $504.00
893.13-7a5 DANGEROUS DRUGS KEEP SHOP OR VEHICLE ETC FOR DRUGS 1ST VIOL
Guess Tommy said one truthful thing in those tapes 😀
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=760611&IMG=61111
Jason said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 1:02 am
J @ 12:54 am: As a small town, Satsuma would have just a few officers on a shift. Whomever responded to the barking dog complaint may have proceeded to Green Lane without writing up the complaint.
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I saw a copy of the report and the neighbor called on 2-4-09 and he was cited on 2-10 at 11:00 AM
Sorry, didn’t know someone had answered about the dog barking citation. That is what I get for reading from the bottom up 🙂
Geez vaquera!
Does anyone in this town not do drugs and treat children decently? Even the sheriff’s
son? Unreal.
CathyJo63 said,
in May 5th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
worst dog to have around kids,their jawls actually lock when they bite! they go for the throat,I saw it happen!
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that’s not true, they do not lock. I raised my kids/grandkids around my pits. I have been around pits my whole like, my uncle had around 30 that he bred. I’ve had 4 and alot of the people I know have them too. No one has been bitten that I know.
With all due respect Kate. Holmseth packs more nuts than a Snickers King Size bar.
Pinkyandduhbrain said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 2:05 am
Geez vaquera!
Does anyone in this town not do drugs and treat children decently? Even the sheriff’s
son? Unreal.
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well Tommy did mention the sheriff’s son in one of his tapes. guess he knew him well enough to know he was a bigger druggie than he was.LOL
i’ve been going through all these months thinking ron couldn’t possibly have anything to do with haleigh’s disappearance/death. but after reading a few posts that were one right after the other tonight, it kind of led me down a path.
if ron somehow harmed haleigh himself, that explains alot of things. that explains why he may have been late to work that night, why annette sykes may have lied about bringing over the laundry (to cover), why he married misty (keep her close, keep her “happy” ((haha)) being his little wife, so she won’t let it slip),why TN has never spoken out against misty (misty knows the truth, if TN was to badmouth her, who knows what may come tumbling out?), why they put ron in GP (perhaps their strategy is to put him around others so maybe he WILL let something slip, and someone will roll on him…can’t get much info from someone in PC) and above all, why misty has such a hard time telling the truth.
i had believed that the only person she was interested in protecting was herself…but now that i’ve listened so long, and watched her so long, i think the ONE person she would go to all lengths to protect, even over herself, is RON. i have been thinking of her as the main suspect in this case…but just maybe, she plays out better as an accessory to the fact…ya think?? has got me wondering, anyway.
Did LE ever come out & say themselves that ron passed his LDT?? or was it just that time when he said he passed it (& said that misty passed hers too)??
Part 2 of Audio transcript
Tommy: What sucks is I’m Fn locked down like a dog in a d@mn cage all day long..
Lindsy: I know..better to be in there though then be out in the …the regular..
Tommy: Not really..
Lindsy:…jail…for you…
TOmmy: No! Nobody’s gonna F with me..I mean..people next door are my friends now. I..
Lindsy: Shhhh…
Tommy: For real! (Laughs) Talk to them all the time through the doors..
Lindsy: People ..what about all them people that talk sh*t? say?
Tommy: They don’t do that no more…we talk through the door n sh*t…
Lindsy: So they’re not mean to you anymore?
TOmmy: No!
Lindsy: Then why don’t you get out?
TOmmy: Cuz they ain’t gonna let me…It’s BS! Stuck in here..
Lindsy: It’s crazy…
Tommy: Well….(resigned)
Lindsy: I love you…
Tommy: I love you too…I hope you get them pictures back..then you can send me them in your letter.
Lindsy: I know…
TOmmy: It’s BS!
Lindsy: I know..I’ll go..um…to wal-mart maybe today…I’ll have Ashley folow me to wal-mart. (Sniffs) and I’ll get you some more pictures.
Tommy: Alright…
Lindsy: So if those don’t come …um…I’ll just get you different ones.
TOmmy: Ddd Did you ask my mom and dad about…ahhh, my dad when he gets on here, about them sending me a picture cause I never did got..
Lindsy:No I didn’t ask, I keep forgetting…
TOmmy: Cuase they said in their letter there was a picture and there was not one in there. They took the letter from Misty out and the picture. I know it was probably just…our littel family portrait, of me my mom, my brother and Misty. e all took together. It’s probably the one it was.
Lindsy: I don’t know,Tommy, it might not be cause Misty has one.
Tommy: I know they said they was sending me a picture and I never got it.
Lindsy: Yea, you know what yourmom did? I gave her our wallet sized picture…
TOmmy: I know, you told me….
Lindsy: She sent it to Misty…
Tommy: I know…
Lindsy: Now I don’t have one.
Tommy: That’s BS! You got the big one.
Lindsy: But still, I like the ..I liked having that little wallet one..
Tommy: I know…
Lindsy: Cause Layala…Layla would be like, you know…mommmy, daddy, Chelsea, (Laughs)
Tommy: I know…
Lindsy: (continues) Nanna, …yep…sux…yea, your dog batter not do anything in my hosue today.
Tommy: (Laughs) You need to start taking him out, even if it’s raining you goota take him out. He’s gonna go to the bathroom one time or other today. You gotta take him out.
Lindsy: Yea, but it’s been like..Tom, it’s like flooded outside.
Tommy: I know but still..
Linsdy: For real…
Tommy: still it’s your….you gotta take him out side..
Lindsy: I’ll see…I’ll close his uh…his leash in the sliding glass door & let him go outside (laughs) so I don’t have…
Tommy: He’ll break that d@mn door down…gonna have to get cha rain coat ( laughs)
Lindsy: My friend’s calling me…
Tommy: Is he?…Well, answer it!
Lindsy: Can’t…can’t have ?? here…
Tommy: Well, I’m glad you come to see me, I was worried you weren’t gonna make it.
Lindsy: No…I was gonna make it..
Tommy: Who’s gonna put in…what what you’re grandpa and Willard talking about getting you a new motor to put in the van?
Lindsy: They’re talkin about it…but (clears throat) they said if my breaks comming then maybe we should just wait. Cause it’s driveable in town.
Tommy: Yea…
Lindsy: Cuz it only goes like 40 mph…(laughs) the speed limit
TOmmy: Yea, (laughs) I..I hope it don’t stop you from comming to see me man, but I’ll understand if it does.
Lindsy: It won’t…No it won’t…it won’t..I’ll figure it out.
Tommy: I love you….
Lindsy: I love you too baby…
Tommy: You need to get you some allergy medicine so the snot will go away…(Laughs)
Lindsy: I know….
Tommy: (Laughs again)
Lindsy: it’s awful…
Tommy: What time are you going to the gym tonight? Same time?
Lindsy: 6:00 – 6:30
TOmmy: You’re gonna go there at 6:30?
Lindsy: Yea…
TOmmy: Oh, alright…well, I might not be able to call ya…unless you keep your phone with ya.
Lindsy: we’re out …It’s only for an hour…
Tommy: Yea, love you…like 7:30 when you’re done..
Lindsy: yea!
Tommy: Alright, I’m waitin…might have…see it’s hard for me to get out of my cell because there’s so many people in here, if I don’t throw my towel up real quick…after shift change, I might not get out.
Lindsy: Well, just…I’ll keep my phone on me…
Tommy: Alright….
Lindsy: But if it you can…you try to call me after 7:30 I don’t want to miss my work out…
Tommy: I know…YOu’re so silly…you better not lose all your weight woman…
Lindsy: My boobs are getting smaller…
Tommy: You need to stop…
Lindsy: (Laughs)
Tommy: For real!…
Lindsy: (Laughs) They’re not, I’m just joking…(Laughs)
Tommy: You better not lose all your….I like you how you are.
Lindsy: (Laughs)
Tommy: (Laughs) So silly….
Linsy: (Still laughing) I think it’s no…I think it’s right now.
TOmmy: Oh yea?
Lindsy: Yea but I think it’s muscle, I’m nto trying to get skinny, skinny. I wanna gain muscle.
TOmmy: You…Women don’t need no d@mn muscles, ain’t tryin to have you Fn..all muscled out…You crazy..
Lindsy: Not like that! But like, maybe, some ..maybe like get some abs…that would be nice.
TOmmy: I don’t know… do push-ups all the time in here…all the time..
Lindsy: (Laughs)
Tommy: (laughs) got nothin else to do…(laughs)
Lindsy: (Laughs)
Tommy: Slap my card and do whatever number it says to do….
Lindsy: so funny….
Tommy: That’s really all I can do…I tried doing pull ups on the door when it’s closed but it’s kindo of hard.
Lindsy: why?
TOmmy: Because man, just…holding my fingers through these little squares and the Fn…my knees are hitting the doors …cra.. it don’t work.
Lindsy: (Laughs) That’s so…that’s funny.
Tommy: I need to shave, I missed shavin yesterday d@mn it.
Lindsy: You need to shave that front of it off…
Tommy: Why?
Lindsy: Cause I don;t like it…
Tommy: Well..(Laughs) I don’t like you going to the gym either…
Lindsy: (Hesitates) Well, then I guess you get to keep your little hair…
BOth: (Laugh)
Tommy: But…YOu know, you’ll be alright…
Lindsy: Yea..
Tommy: Just don’t loose too much…to wher ya…don’t be gettin all skinnied up…
Lindsy: I’m not…I don’t think I could get very skinny…I just want to feel good about myself too.
Tommy: Well, I know…I don’t know why you don’t anyways… (pause) Oh..
Lindsy: When I look good in a bathing suit then I’ll be happy…
Tommy: You do!
Lindsy: You think I do…
Tommy: Well why does it matter waht anybody else thinks?
Lindsy: It doesn’t…it matters what I think…That’s why I’m not listening to you (laughs) Cuz it doesn’t matter what you think (laughs)
Tommy: (Laughs)
Lindsy: No it does matter, but you know what I mean…you don’t like being fat…
Tommy: I’m not fat…
Lindsy: Yea but when I say 250 lbs – 225 lbs “Oh that’s too fat, that’s too fat”
Tommy: Yea, that is a little big…(laughs)
Lindsy: I like it…I like it when you’re big…
Tommy: I’m probably almost 200 lbs again…
Lindsy: Good!
Tommy: I’m pretty sure I probably am I’ve gained some weight since I started Fn getting commissary.
Lindsy: (Laughs) Good! ….then …
Tommy: I pull off some sh*t last night, God…(laughs)
Lindsy: Were you sick?
Tommy: My stomach was killin me…I get bored man, I’m just sittin there lookin at them tater chips and all that other sh*t and I’m like D@mn, I’m gonna eat somethin (Laughs)
Lindsy: You’re so funny…I haven’t had anything sweet since Saturday..
Tommy: Yea, that won’t last long…
Lindsy: I’ve been doing good….
Tommy: (Laughs)
Lindsy: But I can eat Jello, they…I have some sugar-free Jello
Tommy: Yea…
Lindsy: I can eat that…and I can eat cheese so I got those little string cheese thingies
Tommy: Oh Jesus…you’re silly….(laughs) Where they gonna get you a motor? They gonna buy you a brand new motor? or a used one?
Lindsy: I don’t know…I have no idea..
Tommy: well, the van there ain’t really much ofnothing wrong with it, it’s just the motor in it now…you know…
Lindsy: Yea, but he…
Tommy: It’s got a good body…
Lindsy: He told me though, that I ..eventually..we fix the motor and then the other stuff is gonna start happening too…he says….
Tommy: Naw that’s…
Lindsy: He says it’s just wear and tear…It’s just an old…I don’t want my van..hush!
BOth: (Laughs)
Tommy: I like the van…
Lindsy: It does really need a motor but…it…I don;t want the stupid thing..
Tommy: Yea, I know but..
Lindsy: A Nissan Ultima…you watch…
TOmmy: (laughs)
Lindsy: I found a couple of them on ebay for under $10,000…
Tommy: ( laughs hard) Where you gonna get that kind of money at?
Lindsy: I’m gonn figure it out…but don’t worry cops cuz I’m not gonna sell drugs..I’m no drug dealler (Laughs)
Thanks Hollys Gmom – I know all that typing takes some work. You’re the best!
This was in Tommy’s stage of not knowing what story to go with. Misty is saying she’s gonna hurt two people and he knows one of them is him so he’s saying she’s a lier and she better not be telling no lies. He still is trying to point to the Mexican story of Ronald owing money to them but in the end he settles on telling the same story that Misty tells on Joe only denies being a part of it. If the story is true then Tommy had to of seem Haleigh get killed if he seen her get dumped. He’s mad at his sister so I don’t see that if Misty, Joe and he did this that he wouldn’t point a finger at his lying sister. Finger pointing starts and they always point back at the pointer. No, I don’t believe this I think Misty came up with the plausible guess that Haleigh was killed and dumped there by Joe and Tommy and there would be evidence of Joe in the water since it was his fishing spot and has history. Anyone could have thrown that rope in there at any time since she disapeared to set it up for later, same with the blocks. Or Joe used the blocks for the deer. I just can’t bring myself to believe this is true.
This explains why the dog always has his paws crossed. Poor thing! Call animal control so that little guy can take a leak.
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Tommy: (Laughs) You need to start taking him out, even if it’s raining you goota take him out. He’s gonna go to the bathroom one time or other today. You gotta take him out.
Lindsy: Yea, but it’s been like..Tom, it’s like flooded outside.
Tommy: I know but still..
Linsdy: For real…
Tommy: still it’s your….you gotta take him out side..
Lindsy: I’ll see…I’ll close his uh…his leash in the sliding glass door & let him go outside (laughs) so I don’t have…
Tommy = two flushes an hour (with complaints)
Fido the Dog = 1 bathroom trip a day? (if even that)
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE!?!?!?
I find this HIGHLY UPSETTING.
Pinkyandduhbrain said,in May 6th, 2010 at 2:41 am Tommy = two flushes an hour (with complaints)
Fido the Dog = 1 bathroom trip a day? (if even that)
ROFLMBO!
Part 3 of transcription of above audio
Tommy: Neither am I …Never have been (drug dealer)
Lindsy: (Laughs) Yea but that’s whatt they consider you
Tommy: Well, they’re Fn stupid too, they Know I ain’t no drug dealer…they weren’t ryin to go after no drug dealers
Lindsy: I know…
TOmmy: It’s BS!!
Lindsy: I know
Tommy: But that’s all good ..just gave me time to get myself clean..
Lindsy: I love oyu
TOmmy: I love you too…I ain’t gonna lie, I mean sometimes I still have urges, I feel like, yea, I wish i had one of them thing but I don’t need it, I know I don’t.
Lindsy: Yea, Like see, if you were out though…
Tommy: I don’t know…I think I could resist it..
Lidsy: I don’t think you could…I don’t think you’re ready yet
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Tommy: I could resist it…I’ve been having some stupid dreams too…like dreamin I’m F’ed up n sh*t..I don’t know why the h*ll I do that…but I have…
Lindsy: That’s crazy…
Tommy: I had one last night ( Laughs) I woke up sweatin, I was like WTF?
Lindsy: What were you doing? Just…walkin around…
TOmmy: Just gettin high (Laughs) It was crazy..it was …I was wandering around with Tim, with my brother, of all people, he don’t do no…he don’t get high…I don’t know why I had that kind of dream but I did. It was weird…
Lindsy: The detectives are trying to tell Chelsea that you smoke crack…
Tommy: F them detectives! I don’t smoke no d@mn crack! I take pills!
Lindsy: they talk about you do powder too…
Tommy: F them! WHen they say that?!
Lindsy: They told…I don’t know…the otherday…
Tommy: Oh well! F them! DOn’t worry about what they say…(Laughs) I love ya!
Lindsy: (Laughs) Yea…good…good save Tom…real good save…
Tommy: Well, it is…I don’t do that kind of sh*t! I’ve don coke in the past, yea…That ain’t my drug of choice…not like pills….if I’m gonna spend my money to buy some drugs I’m gonna buy some pills….
Lindsy: QUit getting mad cause you can tell cause you start doing this…start movin…
Tommy: I like to move cause my d@mn back starts hurtin sittin on this Fn stool. .. I love ya
Lindsy: I can hear Your dad from way over here…
Tommy: He’s loud…(Laughs)He’s …big fat f*ck..(Laughs) His @ss is gettin big…(Laughs)
Lindsy: He does, he talks so loud…He’ll come in here talkin to Margo on the phone…
Tommy: Did he? (laughs)
Lindsy: People was lookin at us crazy…(Laughs)
Tommy: I wrote them a letter and they ain’t wrote me one back yet…
Lindsy: Who margo?
TOmmy: No, Nicki…
Lindsy: Nicki?
Tommy: Margo’s daughter…
Lindsy: I know who she is…No, I think your dad said that they wrote you..
Tommy: Yea…they..They did, they wrote me one letter…Nicki did…and I wrote her back. she told me to write her and she’d write me back…I like getting mail…
Lindsy: I know, I gotta start writing you more…
Tommy: I know you do…Pfft…I don’t even get probably a letter a week from ya…I got a stack of letters and most of them aren’t from you (laughs hard)
Lindsy: Who are they from>?
Tommy: MY mom, dad, my nanny, Aunt Vicki, Tim & Chelsea, man I got some from you…but I think there’s more from other people then from you…
Lindsy: well, I love you…shut up
Tommy: I love you too…
Lindsy: I’ll start…I’ll start writing you more
Tommy: You need ta quit feeling so lonley..
Lindsy: I do feel lonley…
Tommy: I know…I wish you wasn’t…
Lindsy:I don’t like being by myself….so…
Tommy: Yea, well…you’re gonna have to be for a little while probably…but it’s ok…It’s work out..
Lindsy: Yea (weakly)
Tommy: I’m sick of argueing with you when I talk to you on the phone cuz it a..it makes me feel bad, I’m tellin ya that right now…
Lindsy: Well, you get a…you get….
Tommy: Go up to my room and just Fn…agghh…you know?
Lindsy: Yea, but it just seems like every time I talk to you on the phone, there is a something…you’re doing something…
Tommy: Well,…Yea, I wish they would have put me in a rehab…that’s what I need, I know that…but those F*ckers probably ain;t gonna want to do that…that’s what I really need. Send me to a rehab for a Fn year or two if that’s what they want…
Lindsy: (hesitates) yep…I know I’d rather say my husband is in rehab then say my husband is in prison…
Tommy: I know…Well, you’ll probably be saying one of em…Sounds bad but I guess things could be worse…at least I’m alive, you’re alive, kids are ..we’ve got good healthy kids…
Lindsy: Healthy kids, not good kids all the time…(Laughs)
Tommy: They’re good…they’re just kids…kids are gonna be kids…You were the same way when you were a kid…I know I was…I was rowdy….
Lindsy: I don’t think I…I think…
Tommy: Sh*t, I was in all kinds of trouble…(Laughs)
Lindsy: Not me…I’d of been in trouble by my parents…
Tommy: So when you gonna come see me again? Tuesday?
Lindsy: MmmHmmm (positive)
TOmmy: ALright…Good…
Lindsy: Yep…I love you….
Tommy: I love you…
Lindsy: What’s that sitting at that table around you?
Tommy: Pencils…that they still ain’t sharpened…
Lindsy: Oh, it’s blurry, that’s why I asked
Tommy: I forgot..I’m glad you said that because I forgot my only two pencils are sitting out there on the table…(Laughs)
Lindsy: (Laughs)
Tommy: I wrote you like a 4-page letter last night and…
Lindsy: Holy Crap…
Tommy: and sent it out…Well, front & back, you know…
Lindsy: Oh…
TOmmy: It’s like 3 ..it’s actually six front & back…3 ..3 pages front & back…
Lindsy: Dang….
Tommy: And them MFers better send it to ya! and not keep it, it has nothing to do with anything!
Lindsy: (laughs)
Tommy: I don’t know why they gotta look at all my letters, it’s BS! but…
Lindsy: You’re dad’s over there saying “Keep believing” ..”Keep believin in God”..You can hear the whole conversation….
TOmmy: She’s a little liar…
Lindsy: Huh???
Tommy: She’s a liar…
Lindsy: Oh, I know she is…
Tommy: She’ll get what’s comming to her…
Lindsy: Yep…
TOmmy: Says it in the Bible…
Lindsy: (hesitates) Yep…
Tommy: I worte the verse down for ..uh..them to send to her..not to send her but to tell her when they talk to her..
Lindsy: You did?…
TOmmy: About liars…mmm hmmm (affirmative)
Lindsy: Good!
Tommy: It’s Revelations 21: 7..or 6-8 something like that…
Lindsy: Alright, I’ll have to look it up…(pause) I love you…
Tommy: I love you too…
JenM I never read anywhere that a set of keys were found at a dumpster,antifreeze.Or that it was Nay Nays so please show the link to that.Keys were found at the San Meto fake search site as they call it.Cobra tried to turn those keys in as evidence.They were though to be Nays.But LE wasnt interested.
Tommy needs to be taught now,if he is reading the word.That when he reads it,he should be searching his own heart,to see if he is clean from the things God is warning,or telling us about in it.Before pointing at another.His cussing,he will have to read where God says to put all filthy comunications from us.Yrs of sowing those words,an that thinking into his heart,it will take time .The Holy spirt will convict him,as he contenues to read,an learns whats right.Ifor one hope all involved turns to God.Its a start.He or anyone else should be incouraged,not tore down for it.Ive know some jail house religion as many call it,produce preachers as God called them.
Also Cobra let LE listen to the taped conversation he, an Barbra had,also when he told Jarome that when Misty called him to cop,some dope.That he call him(Cobra) so he could get LE over there to arrest her with enough dope to get a high bond so she wouldnt get out,So they could put her in a position to talk.about where Haliegh.
LE gave the tape back to Cobra,kind of shooing him away.But i see they used his idea.Instead of Jarome,they used UC.
When the State finaly does bring charges against, who ever did this to Haliegh.Then we will get the evidence through the Sunshine law,an we may be shocked,an what we find out.We will know then if it was a shody investigation in the beginning.If LE had annything at the home to lead them to anyone,must havent because there would have been an arrest before now.
I still want to know why the bio mother wasnt pollied in the beginning,due to the custody suit,an would like to know if MG,Chad,or Johnny Sheffield was given one.Did they ever question Ruby,who said she had a lot she could reveal.
Seems like that would have been a precaution,to just make sure.Not saying they had anything to do with it,just wondering if they were tested.An we know Joe lawyered up quickly,As PC Sherrif said. W know he cant to him,unless he has concret evidence.If he played any part,he could walk on this one.
Lindsey knows how to hustle these old men.
I think shes got caught up with her new friends,going out.It being summer time,shes working on her body,men will notice.Shes young,an absence doesnt always make the heart grow fonder.She has slipped slowly away from Tommy.Into a new life!!!!
Animal Control needs to swing by Lindsy’s place and get that dog. It will be really
easy to spot him – he’ll be carrying a picket
sign that says: HEY BUTT FACE I NEED TO GO OUT
GO WEE WEE… he’s probably taken up chain smoking Newports!
The selfishness is simply appalling. You know the kids can’t get treated much better.
Part 4 and last of transcript for above audio…
Lindsy: I’ve got my ID in my pocket (laughs)
Tommy: DO ya? Still got mine? Son;t loose mine, my license…
Lindsy: I got it in my purse with your wallet
Tommy: Because if you lose it…when I ..if I ever get out of here Fn, I won’t have a Borth Certificate so I ain’t gonna be able to get another one until I get a Brith Certificate, I don’t even know….
Lindsy: We can worry about that when you get out…
Tommy: When does it expire?
Lindsy: 2012…
Tommy: Well, I might not be in here until then…
Lindsy: I mean not …no..no…
Tommy: (Laughs)
Lindsy: I mean 2000…no, I mean 2011…
Tommy: Yea, well, still I can have it to take up there to get a copy…to get a new one, they’ll know that that’s me…instead of having the Birth Certificate and all that sh*t….
Lindsy: Yea, but you still have to have it to change the …to change my um..address on my license…
Tommy: Yea…
Lindsy: I had to bring my Brith Certificate…and all that stuff…marriage license…
Tommy: That’s BS!!!
Lindsy: Now you gotta have all that stuff…
Tommy: YOu should’t have to have it cuz you already done it, got’ve got a star on your license..that’s what that means…Memeber that’s what the lady told us…
Lindsy: I thought…NO..she said that that meant….
Tommy: That she’d done went through..you done went through with all the Fn paperwork that they started doin…havin to have your BC, all that sh*t…Member that’s what they told us…
Lindsy: No , I don’t….
TOmmy: And mine don’t have it!
Lindsy: I thought about riding on airplanes, she said something about flying on airplanes…
Tommy: No, it’s for all that…
Lindsy: Oh…
Tommy: That she…that you’ve proved that’s who you are…
Lindsy: He’s over…You’re dad’s over there tellin Misty Don’t protect Ronald…
Tommy: …I think that’s what she’s doing…I swear!~
Lindsy: I do too…I do too
Tommy: I think Her and him are involved in something and they’re protecting each other…or she’s protecting him or somethin…
Lindsy: Well,..he’s ?? somethin too, cuz he ain;t said nothing bad about her…
Tommy: I think it’s what ROnald told us…that’s what happened…
Lindsy: Now he’s kickin himself in the @ss cuz he told us…
Tommy: Yea, cuz now it’s probably too late…they know they..can’t give the kid up..there’s gonna be Fn …they know they’ll be F*cked! (pause) But the police don;t want to hear that…
Lindsy: Well, they just want the Croslins to be …be in the middle of it.
Tommy: I was talking to a guy in here who said ..ss..same sh*t about ..Fn the Mexican mafia in Fn Crescent City…He owed em $600.00 bucks and they ..come Fn with guns to his door…to collect their money…
Lindsy: Dang…Yea..I think she’s…I think she’s coverin for somebody…
Tommy: I think she’s coverin for her ole man….
Lindsy: Yea, cuz she was like…it’s all
Tommy: So in love with the d@mn dude…
Lindsy: Yea, It was like all she’d need, She’slike I love Ronald, I’ll always love Ronald, I don;t regret my tattoo…send me a picture of Ronald mom…
Tommy: (Laughs) Yea, she’s so stupid…alright, well, I wash my hands of…I love her but I ain’t gonna …I really don;t want nothin to do with her no more…All this trouble she’s brought on our family…I mean I’ll always love her, I can’t say I won’t…I will love my little sister, my little baby sister, but she…I don’t…I don’t know what’s her problem anymore…SHe needs some help…
Lindsy: Yea, I don’t know …I don’t…(sighs) I don’t know if she thinks this is just a game or…
Tommy: Ever since she got with Ronald, man…
Lindsy: She’s not been the same Misty…
Tommy: Nope…Sh*t, I remeber that I didn’t like Rob but I kind of wished she’d of stayed with his little punk @ss…
Lindsy: What now?
Tommy: Said I really didn’t like Rob too much but I kind of wished she’d of stayed with him, she should of stayed her @ss in New Jersey…
Lindsy: Welp, she’s got a picture of her and Rob in there right now…
Tommy: Does she? Even though she Fn used to get beat up by him…but oh well, she was gettin beat up by Ronald too…
Lindsy: Yea, I was just gonna say She was gettin beat up by him too
Tommy: (Laughs) I don’t know what…I don’t understand that sh*t…
Lindsy: I know…I don’t know honey…I don’t even know what to think anymore…
Tommy: I really don’t like talkin about it cause I know they’re gonna Fn throw this sh*t on TV…
Lindsy: Yea, I know…
Tommy: Just gives them fuel to put…you know to add…to their flames…
Lindsy: Yea, I just…I just go with the flow…I don’t even know what to think anymore…
Tommy: I know…I know what I think…same thing I just told ya…
Lindsy: Yea, I know…I know..I love you honey…I know you didn’t do…
TOmmy: I love you…
Lindsy: nothin or I wouldn’t come see you…
Tommy: Yep…I know I didn;t have nothin to do with it either..you know I’m not down for some sh*t like that…I ain’t gonna hurt no kid…I ain’t gonna take nobodys d@mn kids, I got my own GD kids
Lindsy: and you’re a really bad liar anyways…you would have told somebody…
TOmmy: (Laughs)
Lindsy: You would have told one of us…(Laughs)
Tommy: (Laughs)
Lindsy: On one of your drunken, messed up stupors…
Tommy: (laughs) yep…(Laughs again)
Lindsy: You would have told somebody…
Tommy: Yea cuz I get drunk and confess to sh*t…ahhh (Laughs)
Lindsy: Mmm Hmmm ( affirmative) Yes you do…
Tommy: Yep…
Lindsy: That’s how I find out all the …good stuff about ya…
TOmmy: (Laughs hard) I love you!
Lindsy: I love you too…
Tommy: I know I’m done with the drugs and Fn running around acting stupid…
Lindsy: I hope so, I hope you’re growin up now…
Tommy: Yea, it kind of sucks it took this to do it to me but…it did..but I still, I’m sure I’ll still need some rehab…that sh*t’s still in my head…you know…
Lindsy: They say it takes like 4 months..
Tommy: Sometimes I’ll be up there bored and I’ll think “D@mn, I wish I had a Roxie…dang I wish I had a Roxie…(laughs)
Linsdy: That’s bad…
Tommy: I know…It sucks…but I know I’m gettin better…I feel good…I don’t feel Fn all depressed like I used to all the time, just like Ugghh, layin around hurting…
Lindsy: Is it still crazy though, not to be smokin cigarettes?
Tommy: Yea, it’s just like drugs…I don’t know if I’ll, I might smoke when I come home, I don’t know…(laughs) I’m gonna try not to cause I really don’t feel the urge for them now…
Lindsy: You just miss that old habit of …
Tommy: Yea, it’s the habit..anyone can break it, just don’t do it…
Lindsy: I know (giggles) yesterday we got done workin out …did I tell you?
Tommy: (ignores her wuestion) My..my throat don’t get sore like it used to and …I don’t know..you know..being away from all those toxins in my body, I kind of feel better…
Lindsy: Did I….
TOmmy: I’m alot healthier…
Lindsy: yesterday that I uh…that uh..when we got done workin out..I’m like I need a cigarette and everyone’s like “No, don;t smoke” (Laughs)
Tommy: Yea…I guess that is a good thing to come out of this…it’s gonna help me get better…and I mean…
Lindsy: I’m gonna be buffed…
TOmmy: and I can’t have…I can’t..I can;t hate the police…they gotta do their job…
Lindsy: Did you hear me? I’m gonna
Tommy: Yea!
Lindsy: Be buff and you’re gonna be healthy or I’m gonna kick your @ss…
Tommy: Yep…
Lindsy: I’ll get put…Oh..I forgot to tell you… I talked to Cher this morning…
Tommy: Yea, what’s up with her?
Lindsy: SHe’s probably gonna come see you while I’m in Mass
Tommy: Is she?
Lindsy: Mmmm Hmmm (Affirmative)
TOmmy: I need her address, get her address for me so I can write her…
Lindsy: Alright, I’ll get it…
Tommy: And we owe em $100 bucks too…for awhile…
Lindsy: Oh well,
Tommy: I know…(laughs)
Lindsy: I’m not gonna give it to them…you can give it to them when you can…I don’t owe them $100 bucks…
TOmmy: I know (laughs) See, I lost their address and I didn’t have their address , their phone, so that’s why I didn’t …fn get paid…
Lindsy: What do you owe them a $100 bucks for?
Tommy: Member, they borrowed me $100 bucks when they were down here before…you don’t remeber that?
Lindsy: No…
Tommy: We didn’t have no cigarettes n sh*t…last…last tax season…
Lindsy: Oh…
Tommy: Well, before they left…but see..our phone got disconnected so, and all the d@mned numbers that were in out phone and they all got deleted so I couldn;t get ahold of her…
Lindsy:Well, she didn;t say anything about it and I doubt that she will but…
Tommy: I know…
Lindsy: But, yea, she’s gonna try to come see you…um…either while I’m in Mass or when I get home…
Tommy: Can you put her on the list?
Lindsy: No…
Tommy: Oh…
Lindsy: She has to do it…
Tommy: Well, she…it takes a day for it to get approved, don’t it?
Lindsy: Yea, but like if she filled it out today, she could come and see you tomorrow…
Tommy: What did she say about all this sh*t?
Lindsy: She just couldn’t believe it…she’s pizzed with Misty…
Tommy: Is she? Well, It’s not really Misty’s fault…
Lindsy: No but she’s mad because of all the stuff on TV and….
TOmmy: Oh, I know….
Lindsy: How..how Misty’s let this go this far…
Tommy: I know…but get her address for me, man…so I can write her…You got her number? Her phone number?
Lindsy: ummm Hmmm ( affirmative)
TOmmy: Well, call her and get her address…
Lindsy: Dustin’s not in the Army no more…
END of audio….(Phhewww!)
Pinky, LOL re the dog….Holly Gmom, THANK YOU!!!!!!
You guys, you have two sentences that are screaming at you, and your not grasping…
Think… Told US.. which means Lindzy knows!!!
Going to give the Kid UP.. Think “Bring the Child HOME”
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Tommy: I think its what Ronald told us, thats what happened
Now they know if they give the kid up they are f##ked. But the police don’t want to hear that.
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this isn’t the mexican mafia story.. this is one you’ve never heard before.. This is one that truly implicates people in a conspiracy..
If what Tommy said is true, since he is reminding Lindzy, which means she knows what he’s talking about..
This is not about a murdered child.. This is about a living, breathing child who has been hidden.. RE-READ…
mlee, that’s what I was thinking as soon as I read it, WOW!
does anyone know what the charge cruelty towards a child on Sherrif Hardy’s son’s booking page means?
Self promotion OJ
mlee, I read HGM’s transcription and I listened to the whole audio. I’m not following your vague hints.
Can you be a bit more explicit in your theorization? Thx.
Come On said,in May 6th, 2010 at 7:14 am Self promotion OJ
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wrong! its where the info is that jan wanted..
but theres some stuff about cobra there that seem to make that site verbotten here.
DQ, I think that charge was for endangering child/ren by running a meth lab in a home. I posted link to the statute on my twitter: ellFlorida.
Here it is: http://bit.ly/czu44B [If that will werk.]
DQ, I think that charge was for endangering child/ren by running a meth lab in a home. I posted link to the statute on my twitter: ellFlorida.
mlee said,in May 6th, 2010 at 6:56 am You guys, you have two sentences that are screaming at you, and your not grasping…
Think… Told US.. which means Lindzy knows!!!
Going to give the Kid UP.. Think “Bring the Child HOME”
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Tommy: I think its what Ronald told us, thats what happened
Now they know if they give the kid up they are f##ked. But the police don’t want to hear that.
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this isn’t the mexican mafia story.. this is one you’ve never heard before.. This is one that truly implicates people in a conspiracy..
If what Tommy said is true, since he is reminding Lindzy, which means she knows what he’s talking about..
This is not about a murdered child.. This is about a living, breathing child who has been hidden.. RE-READ…
And WHY are they hiding her?
OK, Becky, DQ, mlee, I’m still not getting your theory.
Do you think the Mexicans are hiding Haleigh?
[Personally, I think that’s what Ron told Misty & her family and is just B/S. Dunno if Ron’s lying or stupid.]
Are you thinking Crystal is hiding Haleigh?
[That would be quite a stretch for me to buy into.]
Are you thinking that the Croslins are hiding Haleigh?
[Nah, surely that’s not what you’re thinking.]
What are y’all thinking?
thx
mlee – good thinking, but Tommy could have meant Misty, and him when he said “us”, not Lindsy. I think Tommy may possibly know what happened, but he may not be positive. Ronald obviously threatened Tommy with the beheaded rat. “Misty hasn’t been the same since she was with Ronald. She loves him so much.” For the first time I’m leaning towards the possible person’s of interest…Ron and Misty.
I don’t believe that theory
Sorry for the confusion. I was asking mlee why they are hiding Haleigh…I should have separated his post from my question. I believe Ron killed Haleigh and Misty is covering for him and Teresa is covering for both of them..I never fell for his crocodile tears.Teresa knows exactly what happened. Give that sorry excuse for a mother and grandmother a lie detector test to find the answers IMO
Thank you LFlorida for the explanation about the charge, so he was running a meth lab out of his home? OMG do we know what children were living there?
Tobias in reference to your 5/5/2010 6:17pm post. I agree with you. You mentioned the road rage with Charles Jones. Perhaps CJ was telling the truth about Ron haveing a small gun abd wanting to kill him. Levi told us on JVM that CJ told him that Misty told CJ that the drug people have Haleigh. Misty may have told CJ perhaps if she were high and then realized it later and told Ron that she did. CJ said on the Levi show that he has spoken with LE numerous times. It is my guess that it was CJ that told LE about Misty and Ron selling drugs.jmo
Becky:
I’m with you and I’ve felt this from early on. It’s Ron, Misty, and dear old Grandma Teresa.
The rat in the mailbox and the altercation between Tommy and Ron shows that Tommy may have known something but I still don’t think that he was directly involved and if Misty has always been a liar, who knew what to believe.
Timmy and Chelsea leaving is suspicious but it could be as simple as getting away from it all.
Hopefully, now knowing that Sheriff Hardy not only has professional training but personal experiences in this drug culture, with his son, maybe he isn’t swayed by the family dynamics here in this case.
I saw a post here from a “Peter” last night. Could it be that Mr. Hyatt is still checking in on our comments? Hope so.
WHERE IS HALEIGH?
Do we have evidence of her being harmed?
Do we have evidence of her being killed?
Do we have a motive?
Do we have a murder weapon?
Do we have a body?
I think we have a “MISSING CHILD” and a whole bunch of liars that could care less about anything but themselves.
LFJ, I thought that when Misty mentions the John and Linda, Rons friends, to Hank then we find out John B. was facing selling stolen gun charges. Hey who better to get a throw away gun from? Seems he was Mistys pick for telling on them. Hank sounded like he would like to get them back. Ron seems to have alot of criminal friends, some we probably dont know about too. jmo bbl
JenM said,in May 6th, 2010 at 9:16 am
I think we have a “MISSING CHILD” and a whole bunch of liars that could care less about anything but themselves
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So true, JenM. Just what IS the “evidence” that warranted Haleigh’s case being declared a homicide by Sheriff Hardy. I certainly hope it wasn’t the words of proven LIARS and there is something significant. LE needs to put up or shut up about just what happened or where Haleigh is, imo. If they finally have that 5% piece of the puzzle they’ve talked about, then why no arrests ❗
My biggest curiosity now is what Misty, Tommy and Ron’s reaction was to the sentence Hope got! I realize that a missing little girl is the center of this whole “circus” but I also feel that everyone has lost sight of the reason these people are NOW in jail – THEY ARE DOPE DEALERS!! They were video taped selling and buying narcotics!!! Very few people – especially the 3 now in jail – have a grasp on reality about this. I know that LE saw this incarceration as another way of getting information….but OMG none of them could tell the truth if their lives depended on it – no pun intended! Still, I’m very much interested in what is being said NOW! And why do we never get to hear from Ron?? He’s in for the same thing as the other 2 – and just as guilty.
What if Ron was in on a sting? He wanted Tommy and Misty in jail so the cops could make them talk? Funny how there were no arrests of those selling them the drugs. I think if it was a “real” drug bust, they would of went after the bigger suppliers that were supplying Misty, etc.. That’s why we never hear from Ron in jail and they don’t suspect him and never have. The focus has been on Misty and Tommy. But even Misty points at Tommy. However, Tommy seems to want to send us in Ron’s direction, Misty’s, Joe’s and whoever else he can blame. He tries to convince us that he knows exactly what he does when he is high on pills! Also, seems that when the focus went to Tommy and then he failed his LDT, things have gone real quiet lately. No news reports, no jail leaks, no outside phone calls in from the family, no recent tapes, etc. I think they got their person. And I also think Lyndsy knows who did it too and she is getting divorced because of it. Pretty simple.
They did release tapes of Ron talking with a new “Female” friend. He told her that he wasn’t going to make any calls to anyone else because he didn’t want to burden anyone with the expense(paraphrasing). He also told here that he probably wouldn’t be calling her that anymore either and she replied that it would be ok that she would keep money topped up for him to call. Practically begging him to call her. He did mention that he was receiving mail and writing his family. That cannot be released only monitored by LE.
When Grandma Sykes was on Nancy Grace she said as soon as Grandma Hollars told her about the search at the river she and Teresa went out there to the woods and looked around. Isn’t that tampering with evidence? Seems strange Ron got a tattoo of Teresa.
Miss Betty:
LE should have tagge the Grannys for interferring in an ongoing investigation. Maybe they are watching Teresa’s actions at this point.
I’ve been wondering about a few things. Hank Sr. and Lisa haven’t been in contact with Misty and Tommy. Since Lindsey came back from her trip to see Timmy & Chelsea, she’s filed for divorce and distanced herself from Tommy, too. I think it is possible that they all may be working with LE at this point to isolate both Misty and Tommy to get them both to a point to talk. I still think the person that LE wants for this is Ron. Why is Ron the only one in custody that’s been put in general population? LE is trying to get as many people around Ron as possible to talk. IMO
Lucy,I think you are absolutely correct!
I have always felt that Ron’s actions in the weeks and months following Haleigh’s disappearence have been questionable to say the least. What father – no matter his lack of financial resources – does absolutely nothing to find his daughter? – other than nightly appearences on Miss Nancy’s show!
Remember the Natalie Holloway disappearence?
Her parents NEVER gave up the search for her!!
Why would Ron and Crystal?? Too many unanswered questions on both sides of these very disfunctional families!!
Stilllucy, I think you are right. I think Hank and Lisa helped, and that is how they were able to get their court date moved up and got off with a little probation and no jail time. Hank was supposed to be in court the same day as Tommy and LE didn’t want that to happen. We will hear something soon.I am thinking by Tommy’s court date next week.
That alone is a ? i’d like answered Betty! Why? They didn’t when Haleigh first went missing,why then?
They keep saying Misty is the key. Well who is the door??? I pray we will know SOON!!!
When Padilla said that he offered Ron 1/2 million dollars for the search just a few days after HaLeigh went missing and Ron told him they didn’t need it, that was a big red flag. There were people involved in trying to help with the search that said when too many questions were asked that Ron would eliminate those people from the search. That’s why people kept pulling their resources out and giving up. I think it has always pointed back to the family. Can you imagine the parent of a missing child turning down that kind of money for a search?
If my child was missing I would welcome any help I could get. I hope LE is working on this case as hard as we are.
Catching up guys,alot to read,lol
We are the epitome of the ArmChair Detective Squad! LOL
Just hoping that this new administration took a fresh look at all the evidence from the beginning and that’s what helped get this case moving again.
Justice for HaLeigh, hopefully soon.
Betty,thats exactly right,they found money for drugs!but not Haleigh!
It hasn’t always been a popular view on this blog to point the finger at Ron but IMO you guys are right on target. I really think something is about to break in this case (I’m praying). LE got these jokers off the street and behind bars and they are starting to crack. Let the chips fall where they may and let the guilty pay! JUSTICE FOR HALEIGH! WE are Haleigh’s family….as her blood family abandoned her a long time ago! 👿
Ron talked too much about other drugs and such for him to have been helping the UC. Possibly, he’s smart not to talk on the tapes because he knows he could implicate himself. He may be the person who has the most to lose. Sure, he wasn’t there when Haleigh went missing, but if Haleigh was abducted because of money he owed due to selling drugs, then it does make him guilty. He didn’t commit the act of taking or killing Haleigh, but he may have put his child in danger…Child Endangerment. I could not find Florida’s minimum sentence, but in Texas it is a 20 year sentence. Plus, in Ron’s case the additional drug trafficking charges.
oh,lol btw we are waiting till tomorrow to go to ky! you ain’t seeing a ghost or an imposter,lol
A BIG SHOUT OUT to HollysGmom!!!! BLESS YOU for doing the transcripts for us! You are AWESOME!
stillucy…yes, were a merry band of armchair detectives but we’ve got more love for Haleigh than her family EVER had for her! Truly sad! We’ve spent more hours worrying, wondering and investigating this missing child than her own family ever THOUGHT of spending! And none of us are looking for handouts, new cars, minutes on our phones, new computers, trips to NY, free room and board, money for snacks, fame or fortune. These people are the lowest forms of life! Blood sucking, money grubbing, back stabbing, child endangering, drugged up, dope smokin’, self-serving, lazy ass, thieving pack of crackhead liars is what they are! ALL of them! 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿
VaQ, you are right,Thank You!But they do become viscious but i always believed the jaws locked!
Nope. The “lock jaw” you are referring to does not exist, it is a myth.
There are 2 types of real “lock jaw” out there though:
1. An illness called Tetanus (http://www.seefido.com/canine-dog-health/html/dog_tetanus.htm)
2. A comic book character “An Inhuman transformed into the shape of a dog by the terrigen Mists” (http://www.comicvine.com/lockjaw/29-3534/)
So unless you want to give your dog tetanus or make him hang out in the terrigen myths, I wouldn’t “train your dog to lock its jaw”
Answer
I have owned Pit bulls and other terriers. I have had this discussion with my best friend who also owns pit bulls.
We exhausted every avenue of “lock-jaw”. Read every thing we could find about lock jaw and asked numerous Vets.
They all had the same answer……No dog on this earth has “lock-jaw”. The only case of a dog having lock-jaw was a dog with tetanus lock-jaw, it is very rare that a dog gets this type of disease , that is the only type of lock-jaw a dog may get. It’s a medical condition , nothing to do with the actual “lock-jaw”
I hope this answered your question…there is no such thing as a dog with “lock-jaw”. Its a myth.
Check out this site, its the one we found to be most creditable and he confirmed the “lock-jaw” myth
http://pitstopnc.tripod.com/id2.html
Want To Be a Dog Trainer?
JB you are right! It is a shame!! I am praying we aill soon hear something! I honestly believe Ron is involved.
I read a post talking about Crystal not knowing Haleighs school schedule. I had to laugh, because in the article of AH ron said he picked up Haleigh at 2:30pm on the 9th of Feb. Well I immediately thought well Ron does not know his own daughters school schedule and perhaps that is why Crystal didn’t. Haleighs school did not even dismiss until 2:45pm. How in the world did he pick her up from the bus stop when she had not even gotten out of school yet!!!!! Heck even Teresa Neves said she did not get off the bus until 3:30pm.
but what do you REALLY think JB? 🙂
There’s the JB we’ve grown to know and love. Sure did miss your insight and opinions.
Tommy was not in the drug bust videos, correct? I cannot remember. Is his involvement just because he was talked to on the phone?
JB, I totally agree!!!!!!
OJ – Well, My friend, I can tell you I DON’T think Misty is innocent! LOL 😆
Tommy was in 1 of the videos,that’s why only 1 charge of trafficking. Can’t remember the exact date, sorry.
“I was at werk making AN HONEST living” lol
I read at AH that granny Hollars told AH that she is putting in a bid on the reward money (along with others). Who are the “others” I wonder?
Also read that Misty has said that she was IN on the gun stealing thing with Joe and Tommy…They were supposed to split the money from the sale of the gun three ways. Was Misty really that angry with Ron that she would steal from him? She has seemed overly committed and loyal to Ron! (Too bad she didn’t have those same loyalties to a defenseless 5 YO child!) GRRRRR!
OMG, commissary guy is back!
CathyJo….That would have been the first time Ron did ANYTHING honest! LOL
JB,it took forever for mt to believe ron might be involved to this extent,but it was also because i didn’t want to believe it for HALEIGHS SAKE! But its as plain as the nose on my face now and I am tired of the lies and hearing how it affects ME,ME,ME!!!!!!!!
Amen Sister Jb!
and listen to how calm he was talking to the uc about Haleigh,its BS!
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE ENTIRE BUST,AFTER “get on the ground,now”
AN HONEST LIVING,ITS LIKE HE WAS SAYING MY 2ND JOB AIN’T HONEST,LMAO!
I believe Tommy is talking about Ron telling them that if he had the cash he could bring her home. Remember in another tape Lindsy co-signs that.
jb,omg i have always thought that…the reason was remember m told lisa to check the pawn shops for her camera???
pawn shop was the first thought in her head,and honest i thought then,misty stole it,hid it in the culvert…ron went off so she had to look?? for it under a board,rofl!
probably gonna pawn it for drugs!
me too Adams!
i didn’t hear this tho,when did misty say she helped?
JB Druggies would steal nickels off a dead guys eyes!
Granny Hollars also says that Misty has been a liar all of her life. I think the gun stealing deal is a diversion. Probably a bit of truth to it but nothing to do with HaLeigh going missing. And no matter how much loyalty Misty had and still has for Ron, she is vindictive and totally coniving.
Did anyone hear Granny Hollars say that when Misty was on her 10 visit after HaLeigh went missing, that Misty referred to HaLeigh as being dead? Please, I know I heard her say that on Levi’s show when she was talking about the gun deal. Can anyone verify this? Not trying to start a rumor, just looking for verification.
i heard that too Lucy but not officially i guess,lol
Somebody f’kd with the wrong people. That is what seems obvious to me.
Simon, Hope’s lawyer has filed a motion for a rehearing. Anyway you can get a copy of it? It could be interesting.
2010-04-30 47 motion for rehearing
“snip” http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php
ucn: 542010cf000143xxaxmx
file date: 2010-01-21 judge: Terry j larue
defense atty: Beeching, marcella ann
Are you kidding! Ron got a tat of Theresa?????
Thought he got one of Haleigh – but his mother?
What guilt brought that on — is my first thought.
She has had to have ‘saved’ him from something is my second thought.
And none of you want to know my third!
Ann
omg,are u serious,a tat of TN? OMG please tell me thats not true!
his mom didn’t even raise him did she? he had ill feelings toward her………right?
Ron got Teresa’s name tattooed on him somewhere and not “mom”. That’s what everyone thought was weird.
Yep, he sure does have a tat of TN!
Quote: CathyJo63 said,in May 6th, 2010 at 11:59 am omg,are u serious,a tat of TN? OMG please tell me thats not true!
OMG,THOUGHT? THATS CRAZY AS HELL I AM SORRY!
YOU ARE JOKING,WHERE ON HIS BODY? NOT that i care but i am wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy curious now?
what the hell…….did his mind leave on vacation too….Of all the crap in this and now i gotta hear this,that boy aint right!!!!!!!!!
HANG ON SLOOPY!
HOW DO YA MAKE A DEVIL FACE,I COULD SPIT NAILS!
My dasughters missing,o well…i guess i’ll get my body tattooed!!!!!!!!!!! with everybodys name!
Isn’t the tat on his chest. It’s old isn’t it?
now i understand why ppl call it a crazy check,ron needs to sign up for his!
Wow, still in shock over the Theresa tattoo!!
Maybe she looks really, really young after Nancy Grace got her that facelift or chemical peel, or whatever it was, so that she would look better (and more believable?) on Grace’s show. Don’t watch hostile Nasty Nancy – just can’t take her abusive behavior.
Has anyone seen Theresa lately and does she look ‘good’?
Ann
(Yes, OJ, I do like gossip! lol)
why not MOM?? Teresa tho?
Oh contraire, Ron is very intelligent, just ask Teresa……I’m thinking his choice of the Pillbillies may be bringing this intelligent mastermind down. Good ole Ron didn’t give them enough credit. Criminals……..
I don’t buy it either. Tim Miller had someone write a check out to Ronald for $35,000 so that he could give it to the so called Larry guy, when Ronald came out with the story that his friends little girl talked to Haleigh and a guy name Larry had her, but wanted $35.000 in order for Haleigh to be released. Padilla also offered Ronald up to $500,000 early on, and Ron didn’t take it either. If he owed someone money he would of taken it if it was going to bring Haliegh home. IMO, the reason he didn’t take it is because he knew that it was to late..she was dead and there was no way to bring her home. If he was to point the finger at the Mexicans then he would of really been in trouble then and they may of came after him and capped him…not his family IMO.
Quote: chakra7 said,in May 5th, 2010 at 5:57 pm Ok if it was the Cresent City Mexicans,as Tommy refers to them,why wouldn’t Ron tell LE or take the money that Tim Miller offered, when he was their to give misty the voice stress test? I don’t buy it.
i love gossip,lol my husband hated when i gossiped or got nosy,I always told him,hey.I am female and entitled to that!
I don’t talk about my neighbors,even if they ain’t no good..rofl
Maybe the tattoo is where that big bandage was on his neck?
In one of his early interview with NBC (think), the one where he falls over on the ground in front, it clearly shows his neck and at that time he had no bandage. I don’t see a sign of anything in that area – so have to investigate when the bandage appeared, seemed to me to be early on as well.
Ann
so he named a Larry,my God guys,I have been here with you all and i never knew that,where am I?? DON’T ANSWER..LOL BUT GEEEEEEEE
I know these people are obvious liars, obvious drug users, obvious drug dealers, obvious theives, and reportedly involved in guns, prostitution and gangs. However, I can’t really, truly see Ron or Misty harming Haleigh at all. Just trying to take a clear look at it without all the garbage in it.
I think Tommy and Joe are a different story. Joe is a sex offender, and Misty reports that Tommy and Joe have assaulted her (which I fully believe)! I think one or the other or both are involved. I think Misty was passed out. I think she suspects Tommy or Joe. But not sure, so at first, Misty and Ron together may think it was someone else. Ron (who probalby wouldn’t react like the rest of us with a missing child, given his history) thinks right off the bat of Revenge and revenge only!! He probably knows Haleigh is dead because he knows how these people work. He can’t imagine anything else with Misty’s story. So, he protects Misty and Jr.. He stays under the radar. He knows that Haleigh won’t be found, so don’t waste the money or time. He will find this person on his own. (that is his mentality and his way of life….not ours). He doesn’t want anyone snooping around, because then his secrets get found out. He would have to incriminate himself to incriminate others.
So, as time goes on, he starts figuring that maybe Tommy did this and Misty is slowly remembering this part too. Ron goes as far as to divorce Misty over this. Maybe he hears that Misty and Tommy are dealing drugs again. The police hear it too and use Ron to get Misty and Tommy in jail to get them to talk. It works. Now Misty is blaming Tommy and Joe more and more. Tommy fails his LDT and things go silent in LE all week so far. Ron is hoping that Misty is telling the truth and that she hasn’t been threatened.(which says to me that he still has faith in her, but needs to know the truth about his daughter).
Although I do like thinking about all the possible scenarios……Ron or Misty have no reason to harm Haleigh, period.
The $35,000 was engineered by Hank, Sr., for Ron.
My impression is that it is the actual reward money ($35,000).
It was provided by Moffet from Cypress, Texas. It was a large check made out to Ronald Cummings but not an authentic check. Again, my impression was it was in good standing and would be made available upon a worthy conclusion.
Ann
Ann, I heard or read that the bandage was from a mole removal or something.
IMHO..IF JO WERE INVOLVED HE’D BE WITH THEM!
Sorry, obviously it was a large check in the amount, but what I meant was in size — kind of like those prize money checks which are not authentic but are meant for publicity purposes only.
A
Tim Miller and his crew got creeped out early on by this bunch too. Like so many others. I think Padilla tried to hold on because of Nancy Grace and all of the publicity but, his people finally persuaded him that Ron is not looking so clean in all this. Padilla was on with Simon or Levi a few weeks ago and they had a shrink on talking about Ron being culpable to some degree and Padilla thanked her for opening his eyes.
SORRY Jen i don’t buy it,too simple for the mess they’ve created!
Yes, Ron is culpable to the degree he left his child with a moron.
right Lucy!
brb call my daughter real quick!
The tat of Teresa is on his chest… above his left tit. It’s old and faded!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7sDCXuZ69I
The early stories was a boil. Believe it was Theresa in her smooth manner that explained his susceptibility to boils and how this one had to be aspirated.
Strange that nothing, not even a pimple shows on his neck on the 10th (I am assuming the 10th) in that footage (will try and find link) when he bends his head to the ground in front of him.
And, no, I didn’t see a mole there either.
Of course living in the tent and not being clean could lead to blackheads which do cause boils, but it is a process.
Notice that contrary to the early stories, Ron doesn’t seem to have had a boil since — for one that is supposed to be susceptible to that sort of thing.
A
The tattoo of Teresa Neves is above Rons heart on his chest. FACT!
I need to go find where I saw the clip of the tat. When I find it I will post it.
the sheriff’s son busted for a meth lab!..
oy vey..what next?
CathyJo at 12:20
I agree I’ve pretty much ruled Joe out at this point it would be to easy for LE to arrest him for something plus they all point to him
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. — The 26-year-old son of Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy and three others were arrested Wednesday in connection with an undercover methamphetamine bust.
According to Granny Hollars, Joe has never been arrested for anything to do with sexual assault. The only accusations of that have come from Misty and we know how much we can believe her or not or do we or not?
Joe’s criminal history does not include sex crimes. He is on probation now.
and Ron’s tat of Teresa ewwwww thats just wrong and creepy
I posted the clip of the tat @ 12:25
Does seem odd that he says Haleigh is his heart but Teresas name is there and Haleighs is on his back. Wierd is totally correct when describing them. jmo
Thanks BA, I missed your post
y/w
ann said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Wow, still in shock over the Theresa tattoo!!
Maybe she looks really, really young after Nancy Grace got her that facelift or chemical peel, or whatever it was, so that she would look better (and more believable?) on Grace’s show. Don’t watch hostile Nasty Nancy – just can’t take her abusive behavior.
Has anyone seen Theresa lately and does she look ‘good’?
Ann
(Yes, OJ, I do like gossip! lol)
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facelift/chemical peel? How about professional makeup artists. TJ was there that day and talked about it,plus she colored her hair..If it was a facelift when did she go in, where were the bandages..pfft.
She’s been on tv a few weeks ago and looks the same as she did months ago and a year ago..
Tobias it does seem weird once you look at it like that.
Just read where Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy’s son was arrested and charged with the sale of methamphetamine, possession of listed chemicals used to manufacture methamphetamine, maintaining a drug vehicle, possession of drug paraphernalia and child neglect. Imm’s bond was set at $7,020.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/23475927/detail.html
Sheriff Hardy said he’s saddened by the arrest of his son, but has directed his detectives and correctional officers to treat his son in the same manner as any other individual charged with these crimes, according to a sheriff’s office news release.
Sheriff’s Hardy son Joshua Imm and 3 others face drug charges
Joshua Imm is the 26 year-old son of Sheriff Jeff Hardy.
Detectives determined that a two year-old child was awaiting the individuals inside their vehicle during the transaction.
“Snip” http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/05/06/news/news01.txt
Remember when Ron & Cobra mentioned about one of LE that were put on desk duty due to drugs? I wonder who it was?
The participants of the fake search at San Mateo were: John Marcus Sheffield (HaLeigh’s maternal grandpa), Connie Sheffield (HaLeigh’s step-grandma), Marie Griffis (HaLeigh’s grandma), Ruby Kanger (HaLeigh’s step great-grandma), Jeremiah Regan (unemployed self-proclaimed public relations specialist), John Regan (self proclaimed minister and law enforcement impersonator), William Eugene ‘COBRA’ Staubs (licensed private investigator/bounty hunter), and Judy Lucia (dog handler and legitimately concerned citizen.)
I have always questioned if Ron may be shooting up, I know a lady that is having a hell of a time with her 26yr old that shoots up. Her feet, neck, hands, and even places where you would not think of. This is a sick addiction. I am not saying that Ron does, but when I seen that bandaid on his neck, it reminded me of this lady. I did not buy the boil thing because it was not there the days before, the day he was on the ground nothing. Only cuts on his hands..maybe from a fight or barb wire.
JMO though…
Quote: ann said,in May 6th, 2010 at 12:29 pm The early stories was a boil. Believe it was Theresa in her smooth manner that explained his susceptibility to boils and how this one had to be aspirated.
Strange that nothing, not even a pimple shows on his neck on the 10th (I am assuming the 10th) in that footage (will try and find link) when he bends his head to the ground in front of him.
And, no, I didn’t see a mole there either.
Of course living in the tent and not being clean could lead to blackheads which do cause boils, but it is a process.
Notice that contrary to the early stories, Ron doesn’t seem to have had a boil since — for one that is supposed to be susceptible to that sort of thing.
A
Lucy, I saw it somewhere about Joe having a charge of sexual assault in his past. He is supposedly listed as a sex offender and that is how he got brought into this whole thing. I will see if I can find it somewhere.
research the “fake search” people..
lots of info there
NG never does discuss why Ron was playing her for a fool about the divorce and that he was with Misty not just for the drug deals but sleeping with her. NG is biased as far as Ron goes and I just dont get it. jmo
Ron’s tat for his mom doesn’t say “mom”….it says “Theresa”? 😯
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Joseph E. Overstreet only has a juvie record for car theft. Joshua Overstreet is another cousin from Michigan and he has the other charges and is in jail now. One family is Charles, Joshua, and Brandon(the one with the picture of him and misty on his MS. The other Overstreets are Kayla, Kristi, and Joseph. Dont know who their fathers are but I believe Uncle Buddy or Billy is the father of the ones from Mich. Misty talks about him to GHollars. jmo
Okay, interesting stuff.
In trying to find link for a view of Ronald’s neck the first day or so, came across other information which now seems strange (everything about this case is stranger than strange!)
Sykes in answer to Geraldo(or his brother) asking her when did she hear about Haleigh being missing, she said that Ronald had called and she didn’t get the call, but then Theresa called a few minutes after they found out she was gone . . .
She lives only eight miles away.
Does this mean Ronald called Theresa first?
Link to many different videos of the early days.
http://www.zimbio.com/Ronald+Cummings/video/4/Ronald+Cummings+Video+Playlist
A
If you look the Overstreets from Mich look more threatening than Joe. Ron would be way out of his league messin with these boys. I dont think they have anything to do with the Croslins except Brandon at one time. These guys have records and prison tats. I can see why Denny got the family gang idea but I think they see the Croslins as we do liars, tramps and thieves.jmo
Chakra,for real! he even looks like a thug,he could be arrested for looking criminal i spose,lol but he looked that way before Haleigh went missing.lol
OJ,hardy’s son,meth Lab? what are we in the twilight zone?
ROFL JB,Yea beat that one why don’t ya?
maybe he had to PROVE he loved her like Misty had to get his name to prove it!
okkkkkkkk,i am sorry but yall know me,i cannot hold it back this time,but okAY,I can just see me now with my Adads name on my chest “Darwin” mmmmmmmmmmHUH gives new meaning to whose ye daddy,omg ewwwwwwwwwwwww
Wonder where TN has his name tattooed? LOL
Tobias,Yes she is! very unprofessional too!
ron even had her cell phone and home #,right?
I’d hate to venture to answer that Tobias!
CathyJo63 said,in May 6th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
OJ,hardy’s son,meth Lab? what are we in the twilight zone?
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no, its on jax news
one of the sykes is a pervert to arent they,an aunt??? i thought!
omg in heaven.. do do do do doooo twilight zone is right!
I feel NG could careless about him its her ratings and image that she worries about and I think when it all goes down she will be spinning a new story for her fans. I cant wait, I may actually tape it so I can watch it over and over. ROFL JMO
PCSO is a den of VIPERS!
CRIMINAL from top to bottom!
They SET UP misty! ENTRAPPED her to take the fall for their botched investigation of the haleigh case.
Madg! Ron showed Cobra the ba$#s we thought he had,lol who knows!
I believe he is a step son and I dont think it matters not everyone has control of what adult step kids do. jmo
for once OJ,it wouldn’t shock me,hey i might start liking you!!!!! rofl
n/g is a schemer,so would I tobias,when i feel all down and depressed,pop it in the ole vcr and Thank God i aint her!
right but it makes you wonder if ron knew him? lol
Vaquera,
Theresa spoke about what? Did she smoothly try and convince people that it is now just the ‘make-up artists’?
That’s what they are, they are not magicians!
Where were these so-called make-up artists her earlier trips to the Grace show?
Perhaps botox injections and that’s why her eye muscles couldn’t produce any tears from her ‘pretend crying’ and putting everything in Jesus’ hands!
There just ain’t one of these characters better than the other!
My opinions only,
A
youre right tho Tobias,Ive seen what i thought were perfect families who had one go the wrong way so it aint ALWAYS about that!
look at every video,her mouths the same,the sighs the same,fake fake fake!you can just tell,she spreads her mouth like the joker! gimme a break!
tobias said,in May 6th, 2010 at 1:52 pm I believe he is a step son and I dont think it matters not everyone has control of what adult step kids do. jmo
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WRONGG!! real son, took his stepfathers name.
another thing that bugs me is when ron showed the trailer,well tour and he opened Haleighs br door he said,”This is where she used to RESIDE!” Like she was a boarder or something!
just kinda impersonal,Resides!
I do like ya OJ,even when i don’t,lol
OJ, Okay now I see he was raised by his mother and Stepfather instead of Sheriff Hardy. Makes sense now. He evidently thought of his step dad as his real dad so he changed his name. I dont really see Hardy having much to do with raising him then. jmo
Also the guy is 26 years old not like Hardy can spank him and send him to his room. Geeezzzz. jmo
OJ, Jeff Hardy’s sons bond is only $7,500, but he seems to have done much worse than Croslins/Cummings/Sikes whose bonds were set much higher.
He’s charged with: child neglect, manufacturing methamphetamine, methamphetamine sales, maintainig a drug vehicle, possession of drug paraphanelia, and possession of listed chemicals used to manufacture methamphetamine.
Bond is only $7,500!
omg Jason! Really? this was Misty and Hopes first charge and rons for that matter wasn’t it,
I KNOW OJ,LOL She was framed!lol just pickin atcha! I LUV U!
His age is interesting – wonder where he grew up?
Ronald is 26 (10/29/83) – were they good buddies being in the drug business and all?
Was/is Ronald covering for some supplier such as this guy and that is why he is sent home without a spanking for his previous drug charges and won’t tell on anyone?
Or, did he tell?
Wonder if the detectives changed in covering this case? Must research that.
Just my personal opinions.
A
Jeff Hardy didn’t know what his own son was up to?
OH GOD,incase someone comes in and don’t know,i say i luv u cuz lindsey and tommy say it after they get mad! i luv u!
right Jason,I see. i don’t blame him anyway,my parents hated drugs,alcohol,very good ppl but i was an addict and just so happened i was the only one who ever was out of their 13 bio kids! I never would blame them for that!
I don’t buy that the not knowing. I also feel that there is something wrong when their bail is way lower, especially when a child is involved. I’m disgusted, I must go throw-up!
i wonder tho if they knew him!
If misty is innocent of the haleigh disappearance why did she fail the ldt before she was arrested on the drug charges?
tthats true Adams,thats what i am sayiing too cuz thats m and thems 1st time too……right?
His age is interesting. Ronald Cummings is also 26 (10/31/83)!
Did this guy grow up and go to school in Satsuma?
Seems they both would have known each other being in the same trade, one a supplier and the other a distributor. It is a small town.
Always wondered how anyone could have the arrest history and charges that Ronald Cummings had and not do serious time. He always seemed to be sent home with less than a spanking (which he is so fond of doing to people, including Haleigh, who doesn’t meet his standards of behavior).
Wonder if Ronald is now talking – giving up the “Mafia”.
He did say at the virgil to Chad and someone else that he was 75% certain of who took Haleigh. Of course he later denied it.
Everyone is a liar but Ronald.
What stellar guys! $750.00 isn’t much to get a drug manufacturer back on the streets.
My personal opinions only
A
I’m sure one of the ldt questions had to be something like:
Did you have anything to do with her disappearance?
Do you know who may have?
Did you leave the mh that night?
I mean, what else would they ask at the beginning of this?
I could careless if Misty and Rons or Tommys bail is too high. We all would be mad as heck if they had low bonds and were out running around.jmo
Jab,cause she ain’t innocent.imo
tobias – thank you. They are where they should be and where everyone else should be in an effort to clean up that community and give the little children a chance in life.
A
no Tobias,me either but i am saying up this guys,thats why the dealers keep dealing,they only nab the users and let the dealers go….silly!
Selling pills and manufacturing meth are 2 different worlds, really. I don’t recall hearing Ron and that bunch ever being involved in anything more than the pills, a little cocaine now and then, and marijuana. Meth is a world all by itself.
not to mention MANUFACTURING IT!
Come on, Hardy’s son and 2 of the others are charged with MANUFACTURING AND SELLING METH but their bonds are only $7,520!
The third (Scott Hood) has a higher bond of $16,528 because he has two possession charges(meth and a controlled substance).
$7,520 bond! Dang! Croslins/Cummings/Sykes WEREN’T smart at all! If they’d manufactured meth, and took the children with them to sell it, their bonds would have been much lower!
I will hold my opinion until I see him get bailed out but it doesnt seem anyone has done that. jmo
Cj,
I think so too, but I am wondering what people who think she is innocent can reconcile the ldt’s and the innocence of haleigh’s disappearance. Seems like it would be hard to do.
And then there is her brother, TC, who fails them too.
CathyJo, I love you, too! I love you!
Amen Jason,lol thats exactly right!!!!!!!!!!!!
They should know when that got out S$#T would hit the fan!
In all honesty,I don’t think they’d pass on any drug Lucy..jmo
I luv u Jason,lol
Cummings wasn’t manufacturing meth – no risk of his blowing up the MH with himself, Misty, and the children inside.
imo.not to bring it up again but it is part of my life so…….but anyway my husbands killer got 6 mo in county jail…….not to mention my husband was disabled too but i have seen ppl arrested here for weed and got a yr flat!
What’s with the love fest? Are you guys listening to the tapes a little bit too much or what?
Don’t you think the Cummings/Sykes/Croslin bonds were stoked because of the involvement with HaLeigh? It’s not illegal. It’s within the realm. None of them had jobs, stable residences, nothing to insure that they would not be a flight risk. Bonds can be set high if prosecutors argue their case of flight or contiued illegal activity appropriately.
just not right!
I read the “fake search stuff and other items on the same site. Interesting to say the least.
After digesting all of that search, started and done with no police officials present, unless I missed something, sounded like sheffield family members and cobra may have just done it to try and ‘force’ something by saying they found evidence which was refused acceptance by LE.
I still don’t se that absolving ron or misty or joe or tommy from anything. Doesn’t impicate them either.
I for one will keep an eye on the docket but for now I am more concerned with the issue at hand and I dont want to get sidetracked with other cases. This one is nutz enough for me. jmo
I don’t get what youre asking Lucy?Love fest?
I am saying I agree,theyre where they need to be and high bonds too but also meth making and kids involved?? he should have a high bond too!
SillLucy, Ron Cummings had a job with a ‘bridge’ company, Misty worked as a babysitter (for Haleigh and previously, other children), Hank Croslin had a dry wall business, Tom/Lindsy Croslin had earned income in 2009.
Hardy’s 26 yr old son had a job MANUFACTURING AND SELLING METH out of a RESIDENCE. $7,520 bond.
good way to put it Jason!good Job!
stilllucy,
Thanks.
Didn’t Tommy just have a discussion on this recent tape, something about Crystal telling Lindsy he did crack?
Since drug dealers are not always caught each and every time they sell – and it would seem in Satsuma the arrests are few and far between, I would not be willing to say everything Ronald Cummings was ever involved in selling. IMO
Going back to that boil — what if it was a scrab from Meth? I hear they get boil like sores?
Don’t know much about the drug world (Thank you God!) but, in my mind, it is a graduation process.
Also, my thought, just because someone is selling one thing doesn’t say that is their personal preference.
Again, this Blog is fantastic and very informative. You all are very kind in explaining and having ‘agreeable’ disagreements.
My personal opinions only,
A
right Ann,and often sellers won’t use b/c of profit,or they’ll take cheaper drugs and sell the expensive ones to keep their own habits up!
Oh, forgot to tell you, ‘I love you’ –
that is so silly, crazy, or the other phrase that one can mention, B-S
A
beautiful*adams (cent) said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
I don’t buy that the not knowing. I also feel that there is something wrong when their bail is way lower, especially when a child is involved. I’m disgusted, I must go throw-up!
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I agree!!!
Thank ya, CathyJo!
Beautiful, and Treece: That burns me, too. A 2 year old in the car . . .
hiya Treece,so do i!
yvw Jason!
Luv u 2 Ann,lol
I have heard it is very easy for that stuff to explode,i dunno…..Thank God but i can imagine!
This is a true story,about 8 yrs ago my neighbor babysat for a girl on that meth and the cps was called on her b/c of 4 kids in a bedroom with a toaster to make their own food “toast”
the workers came in,took those kids ,got deathly ill and went to ER that very same day…….notified le and now the mom and dad are in jail for manufacturing and even gave the little baby oxcontin to make it sleep!
Hope Sykes should have been sent to ‘boot camp’ when she was first arrested at age 18 (prior to her arrest in January).
But, no – they let her walk to continue her wayward behavior.
Of course she wasn’t going to straighten up and fly right after her first offenses – they did nothing to curtail her behaviors – just sent her back on the street.
I’ll look for that article!
Jason,
If bond is $7,500 then $750 gets them out (Misty taught me to do the calculation).
Agree – in comparison with, there seems to be someting wrong.
They should have a high bail one would think since it is where it all starts, the manufacturing.
What’s with the two year old in the car – do you have a link to this arrest?
Thanks.
A
Yeah, Jeff Hardy’s really on top of the drug trade in Putnam County – his own son manufacturing and selling, but he didn’t know?
WHAT??
He told Lyndsy on the tape that he doesn’t do crack. Thats silly!
Did anyone see the interview with the old guy that lives right there next to Misty? He says you would be able to hear a car or anything coming in and out of that neighborhood and he didn’t hear anything that night. He says he is a light sleeper.
Ann, glad to hear Misty helped you out there with that math calculation!
First Coast News on the arrest:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=155685&catid=3
Hardy doesn’t even know his son is manufacturing and selling meth, but somehow he’s capable of figuring out what happened to Haleigh Cummings??
Is the two year old Hardy’s grandchild?
fact is anyway Jason,he knows it now,lol ya know! but i agree,he knew!
dunno how a parent can’t know that?
Jason
At the time at their arrest in Jan-2010, none of them were employed outside of the drug business that they had started.
jen,he told her he don’t do coke either but we know better!they know they’re being recorded!
I Only do pills,lol cause he got caught on cam!lol
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100506/ARTICLES/100509617/1118?Title=Putnam-sheriff-s-son-arrested-on-drug-charges
Link to Hardy’s son’s arrest
Ain’t so Lucy… Hope was a stripping!!
LFlorida said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 7:49 am
[Dunno if Ron’s lying or stupid.]
Yes.
Tommy has a couple of drug charges also that are being combined (for want of the proper term) in with the drug charge in January since they were all before the same judge and just continued.
And, in addition, he has that theft of a firearm . . . also continued and combined (?) with January’s drug arrest.
A
Remember Cobra telling Tim Holmseth about how mean police were to Teresa Neves?
If Jeff Hardy didn’t even know the illegal activity his son was involved in, how the hello can Haleigh’s parents/grandparents depend on him to find out what happened to Haleigh?
I don’t understand Lucy,are you saying they are being treated unfairly,i really wanna know,i don’t get it,sorry!
Simon, good thing you kept Haleigh in the news. If you didn’t, PCSO would have dropped the investigation long ago.
And, yes – YOU ARE the one who kept her in the news.
or both Pinky,lol
I have to agree with ya again Jason!
Alot of people said this is the best place for following the case!
yea When Cobra said they tore her A#$ UP!
Amen to that Jason!
I couldn’t find anything on Haleigh until I happened upon this site.
Thank you Simon – you are fair and show no biases in your editorials. Refreshing.
A
There bonds were set acccording to their individual criteria. No job, no legal income, no permanent residence, criminal history, all equals risk of flight. 1 felony charge of trafficking maximum bond can be up to $100,000.00+ if deemed necessary by court. It was legal, may be not necessary but legal.
Yes…thanks Simon! I love you.
It’s the only site i have ever been loyal too,just read and left the others!
Lucy,then why is Hardy’s sons lowhis job is manufacturing meth?
We’re aware of other illegal activity Tom engaged in, but only know Joshua Imm’s is accused of manufacturing, selling meth.
Has Joshua committed other crimes? Is this his first arrest?
I doubt that at age 26 he committed the FIRST crimes of his life.
First time Joshua was CAUGHT?
Jason, I would give Hardy the benefit of the doubt since we dont have any idea if he and his son even had contact with each other.
Also whats the old saying YOU CAN PICK YOUR FRIENDS BUT NOT YOUR RELATIVES. Just because he is in power doesnt make him less human.
Now it would be a different story if the son was raised by him and younger. jmo
I don’t wanna waste my time on him but just saying,how is he different? manufacture and a child involved inside the vehicle,and kids breathe that crap!
stilllucy,
Okay, but surely bonding takes into consideration the crime involved?
Because I own a mansion on the hill with a heliport, that makes me a less flight risk than someone that hasn’t got two dimes to rub together?
What are the charges against these individuals for running a meth lab? What is the maximum bond per offense they could have gotten? Are they owners of the Lab (or, dare I say, are the owners silent partners that whole ‘decent’ jobs in the town)?
I saw also the word ‘had’ – but everything has to be fair (did I tell you Peter Pan lives next door?)
A
I’M not even saYING THAT tOBIAS,AT ALL! mY CONCERN IS HIS BOND? ONLY
OOPS,Sorry,what a mess!
These ppl get off too easy then they become what we are dealing with now!
Jason,
What is this guy’s name and the other names – we can easily look up his criminal record in Putnam County.
Is there a link to this arrest?
A
I don’t pretend to even know anything about the Sheriff’s sons’ case other than that he was arrested. I’m following HaLeigh’s case and these morons that are responsible for her disappearance. Whatever happens to the Sheriff’s son, he deserves. Sounds like Putnam Co. has some serious drug issues down there. Since it was the Sheriff’s son, another agency may have been handling the investigation. The Sheriff may not have even known about the investigation. Or maybe the Sheriff has been just a little busy with something else, HaLeigh…….Are we saying “I love you” at closing of our statements? Might of missed that.
Cathy, I dont think he will get out unless someone bails him out thats why Iam watching the site. Could be why the bail is what it is. No one will do it. jmo
Bad timing for the sheriff’s son too, because he won’t be able to give him special treatment just because that’s his son. Hope Sykes surely did not get special treatment. The Croslin’s and the Cumming’s will sue, and well they should if he gets special treatment.
Okay…it doesn’t sound like Hardy and his son were close….the guy took his stepdad’s name. I’m NOT going to persecute Hardy for something his child did. The fact his son WAS arrested tells me there is no bias. It is not rational to condem a parent, brother, sister, cousin, grandparent, etc., for what another family member does. Now, if the kid did all of these things (meth lab, manufacturing, distributing, endangering the kids, etc.) and Hardy KNEW about it and the kid was never arrested THEN I would scream “FOUL”!
As far as the bond amount goes….we’ve seen bonds vary dramatically for the same offense….as previously mentioned it has to do with flight risk, community safety, prior offenses, etc. As long as this kid has to face justice and his children are now in safe hands, I’m happy. No child is dead. No child is lost.
People in LE are not perfect nor are their family members. I wouldn’t expect them to be any different than the rest of us. Everyone has some bad apples in their families.
But when you look at the Croslin / Cummings / Sheffield bunch it becomes extremely difficult to find one GOOD apple in the bunch. There is NO comparison.
LE was within their legal rights to request and be granted high bonds for Misty, Ron, Tommy, etc. They are TRYING to solve the case of a missing child and I EXPECT them to utilize every tool available to them, within their legal boundaries, to exact justice for Haleigh. They have NOT done anything illegal and what they’ve done DOES appear to be working. They’ve gotten more out of these creeps since they’ve had them behind bars (less than 2 months) than they got out of them in the prior 13 months. So KUDOS to them. If it were MY child that was missing, I’d expect nothing less.
With all of that said, I hope they throw the book at Hardy’s son. He endangered his children and poisoned his community with the meth he manufactured. I expect justice to be served in that matter as well.
Obviously, Jeff Hardy doesn’t want to bail his son out for public relations reason. At age 26, I doubt Joshua just began dealing drugs recently.
I wasn’t sure Lucy but i see now what exactly you meant,
as for the i luv you’s there were a few of us here last night who got to giggling over the i love you’s between t and l after every sentence they said,we were only goofin off!
ty Tobias!
The sheriff didn’t have a clue that his son is manufacturing meth? That’s a freaking LIE.
Time for Jeff Hardy to resign.
Ann:
You just don’t know their history. Maybe they own their homes, full time jobs, married w/children, no criminal histories, just don’t know. No way of knowing right now. Could also have had a good attorney that spoke for them for bond reduction. Just don’t know any of the facts.
We do know that the other bunch, had a reputation and LE wanted them in a secure environment to be able to get info on the other case. And Ron & Misty were dumb enough to play right into their hands. Was it right or wrong, who are we to judge. Who was there to judge for HaLeigh? Does HaLeigh deserve answers so that those responsible be punished? I think so and as long as those answers come, I don’t care how they get them as long as it’s legal and it holds up in Court.
Marie, Crystal, Annette, Teresa should demand an outside agency take over the investigation.
Speaking of the Tommy and Lindsey love fest….I wonder who she met at the gym that caused her to dump Tommy? LOL After all, she has lost weight, wants to get “buff”, have abs, look good in a bathing suit….and she’s saying this to a man who is going to prison for a LONNNNGGGGG time! ROFLMAO Talk about pouring salt into the wound! Who the heck is she getting all “buff” for is what I want to know! LMAO
Lucy,still tho,manufacturing…..CHILD!
ARE YOU SERIOUS lUCY,SO IF THEY HAD GOOD JOBS ITS OK TO MANUFACTURE AND ENDANGER A CHILD!
Must be a * inept drug task force in Putnam County for the sheriff to not know!
Remember Ron talking to the detective (but was being recorded). He mentioned some cops that were ‘on the take’. Wonder where some of that ties in?
Also, these guys weren’t manufacturing meth for their own pleasure. They were selling it I’m sure. So, who are the buyers? Who supports it? Maybe someone where Ron works? Maybe he told them they better cover for him being at work or he is gonna rat them all out for drugs?
Maybe his car was in the parking lot all night. Doesn’t mean he didn’t tell Tommy to come get him in the van out back of work to come look for Misty, did it? And then maybe took him back to work? (that is a theory for all the folks who suspect Ron).
Maybe Tommy and Ron were in a gun theft ring to sellem to get money to buy drugs. Joe came down to pick up some guns to process, but went back without Rons gun.
Maybe Misty’s phone was dead/not turned off. Maybe she didn’t know it.
Maybe some perv in the neighborhood saw Haleigh out playing that day in the yard and came back later that night(that stuff happens all the time and their m.o. is to ‘hide’ the body).
Just other stuff to consider.
They didn’t start manufacturing meth just yesterday!
DID NOT SCREAM at you lucy!!sorry but ? remains,lol
Jason, they are just as capable as being guilty and suspect as anyone else, thats why they wont insist on it. Especially Crystal. She is definitely NOT ruled out in my book. She is a sneaky, lying skank and has a criminal record for lying to get revenge on someone for a felony charge. I don’t trust her at all.
oh god JB,my thoughts exactly!
Jason, how do you know Hardy knew about his son and the drugs? You DON’T. Could be true but without facts it is just rumor. If the two weren’t speaking for years it is VERY possible Hardy didn’t know.
As I said before, if the son WASN’T arrested and we found out about the drug manufacturing THEN I’d say “Hang Hardy High”. But the son WAS arrested and WILL face justice. What more does anyone want?
this is like the movie “12 angry men”..
your all finally starting to come around to my way of thinking.
PSCO is CORRUPT, VILE and DESPICABLE!
They FRAMED misty! and now they are using psychological TORTURE on her! DISGRACEFUL!!
SHAME ON LE!!
Ann, I checked criminal records/Putnam for surname Imm – found a Andrew and Howard; but no Joshua Troy Imm.
I’m checking for the others:
Scott Charles Hood, age 34
Johanna Leigh Smith, age 26
Amanda Ashley Tomlinson, age 22
Putnam Co. is not a Metro PD. Sheriff and City are separate Departments, no communication. Easy for Sheriff not to know. A Chief of Police would love to humiliate a Sheriff with this. If the son didn’t have the same last name, they probably didn’t even know who he was.
You would be surprised at the lifestyle of some drug dealers and the way the camouflage their lives. Most try to appear “normal” to family and friends.
If anyone needs to be in protective custody, it is the Sheriff’s son! JMO
Ann,
For an Amanda Tomlinson ( no date of birth listed, so can’t verify):
UCN: 542008MM003677XXAXMX
File Date: 2008-09-12 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:
Defendant
TOMLINSON, AMANDA
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2008-09-12 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO/ TIMPE 08-30-08
2008-09-12 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2008-09-12 1 BATTERY/ DEBORAH BAINBRIDGE
2008-10-15 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO ALL CTS
Jason…I live in the same town as both my brother and sister, as well as my parents. I have TONS of cousins, aunts, uncles, etc., living here too. I don’t see my brother and his family but maybe twice a year. Same with my sister. I may go several years without seeing some of my other family members. I couldn’t tell you if they were cooking meth, printing counterfeit bills, running a brothal, smugging illegal aliens or were joining Al Quaida for Pete’s sake.
Heck where I live there is a small town 5 miles down from my town pop. 3000 the Police station was 200 yds from a MH that was a meth lab so its not always easy to spot. These people got caught because they were dealing along side of having a yard sale. Just happens someone saw something shady going on. jmo
Okay, here we go,
http://public.psco.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=760611&IMG=61111
Degrees as listed are:
First is an F – Second is S, Third T, Fourth F, etc.
He has three felonies – Two second offences and one third; and the misd. are either first or fourth (I don’t know the difference in those two).
A
lmao@OJ
If there was real money offered by LP and/or TM I don’t believe Ronald would have refused it unless he was in fear of SOMETHING. Guy like Ron would never have been so magnanamous aslo refuse that kind of cash. He’d be day dreaming about how fast he could multiply by drug sales etc. I just don’t believe it on the surface. ALSO, I heard awhile ago that Ron has had about 9 previous narcotics related charges that he has done ZERO time on. There is only one plausible explanation for this volume, he’s a career snitch. Lot’s of drug dealers don’t take kindly to this, trust me, all this talk of :giving the kid up” makes me wonder if they hid Haleigh hidden out somewhere to protect her life. Suspicious as hell.
Framed misty?
I wonder how it is that she failed a poly not given by police before she was arressted? Am I wrong about that?
Then she fails police ldt’s and so does tommy. I’m thi they know something.
OJ’s glove said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
this is like the movie “12 angry men”..
your all finally starting to come around to my way of thinking.
—
With you, the movie Groundhog Day by Bill Murray comes to mind. lol
I don’t think i’d know if someone was making it!
I know I’m not 1 of OJ’s 12 angry men!
Go PCSD! I’m for Justice!
nobody framed Misty,lol thats just O.J’s woman!
AND, if you were the son (or other relative) of LE, you MIGHT have some better ideas how to HIDE your drug operation. You would CERTAINLY not do anything to tip them off. You might even learn of some of the drug task force activity in your area to keep you better informed so you COULD hide what you are doing. I just don’t see this need to trash Hardy for what his son did! The son WAS arrested and rightfully so! Hardy didn’t try to get him out of it. For all we know Hardy was the one that found out about it and sent LE to arrest him! People are jumping to ALL kinds of conclusions about LE and IMO it is WRONG to do so. Hardy has NOT tried to sweep this under the carpet, hasn’t tried to cover for his son nor has he tried to prevent the arrest of his son. So WHERE is this big “LE IS CORRUPT” conspiracy theory coming from? UGH! 🙄
rofl@pinky
“who framed Roger rabbit”
stillucy! You got that right sista’…GO LE! JUSTICE FOR HALEIGH!
i never said none a dat stuff jb!
just his bond? ok/me sneaks out the door
1000000% agreed Lucy! all about justice!
A Henry Franklin Hood was charged with attempted first degree murder, aggravated battery with deadly weapon, retaliation against victim (on Theresa Hood, back in 1997).
Hardy’s sons middle name is Troy, and a David Troy Hood is listed on the PC docket for a traffic violation.
Middle name Troy has me wondering if there is a family connection between Joshua Troy Imm and the Hoods.
Oh Dear!
JB: It’s just you know who at it again. Must we say more? Commissary money! Too bad the son wasn’t a daughter, then it would really be a subject for corruption discussion. If, you catch my drift……
laurainfl….well, if Ron didn’t want anyone poking around he might refuse the money. LP offered $500,000 to help in the search. That would mean bringing in more searchers, more investigators, more dogs, more people poking around in his business. If he knew Haleigh was already dead, obviously knew the money couldn’t bring her back and knew that if people started digging they would find out about his crimes and perhaps his involvement in his child’s death….he might be inclined to turn down the money. He wasn’t going to be handed cash. It would have been put into an account and used to pay searchers, investigators, etc.
And if Haleigh’s life was threatened by drug thugs, why would Ron only hide Haleigh? If these drug thugs were coming after Haleigh but couldn’t find her as you suggest, wouldn’t it be logical for them to just grab Jr? I doubt they would care WHICH child they grabbed. I guess anything is possible with these yahoos but just sayin’…..JMO
JB, i AGREE WITH YOU. Everyone forgets FDLE and FBI are also involved in this case not just PCSD. The investigators are working on this under supervision of Hardy. Hardy is not the investigator.jmo
Jeff Hardy, it’s 11 pm. Do you know where your children are?
No? Oh, well that probably explains why you don’t know where Haleigh is.
Even if some people in LE are corrupt, I still wonder why these clowns can’t pass a poly to save their life.
Maybe its all just wishful thinking that misty had nothing to do with it.
CathyJo…ROFLMAO – GET BACK IN HERE! NO sneaking off! LOL
Stillucy…yeah, I know, I know….I just hate to see everyone turning into sheep and blindly following him off the dang conspiracy cliff! LOL 😆
Couldn’t agree more, JB. When you are weeding out corruption, you prune away a limb at a time. You do not dynamite away the whole tree.
If we were all thrown under the bus for some act a relative committed… we’d be in a sorry
state.
Jeff Hardy and Misty have alot in common. I DON’T KNOW.
Pinky, Forget the tree – Joshua could have dynamited the whole house!
http://www.richardhornsby.com/criminal/guide/penalties.html
corrected.
A
Jason said,in May 6th, 2010 at 4:33 pm Jeff Hardy, it’s 11 pm. Do you know where your children are?
No? Oh, well that probably explains why you don’t know where Haleigh is.
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OH PLEEEAAASSSEEEEEE!!!!! Hardy’s son is a GROWN MAN! 26 YO MAN!
Why not direct your frustration and anger towards the people who LOST (and probably KILLED) Haleigh INSTEAD of towards the people who are TRYING to FIND HER?! SHEEESHHH! Why do people blame LE for crimes, missing children, drugs, murder, etc? Here’s an idea…how about we start blaming the criminals who actually COMMITTED the crimes, kidnapped the children, manufactured the drugs, committed the murders, etc? I know, I know…difficult concept to grasp…but can we at least TRY? UGH! My head is about to explode! ROFLMAO 😆
Sheriff didn’t see the illegal operation his own son had – UNBELIEVABLE!
Step aside, Hardy. Let someone competant takeover.
Jason, I believe this will all be cleared up by TJ lets wait before we hang Hardy for something his son did. jmo
If she’s innocent she certainly hasn’t helped her cause much.
The truth would have been a good start.
She even says on tape she isn’t guilty of the drug charges when we see them. She lies and is lying about HC.
Maybe she is covering for someone and innocent, well, she’d be better served coming clean, she may get a reduction on the drug charge sentence.
But, when you aren’t innocent, you have to lie until LE proves it.
Its probably a hard pill to swallow, so to speak, when you Want to believe something that isn’t true.
Actually, Joshua could have blown up the entire block!
Pinkyandduhbrain said,in May 6th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
__________________
WOW! Another voice of reason and sanity! THANK YOU PINKY! I was about to lose hope! I thought OJ slipped everyone some of his concentrated conspiracy OJ and everyone was drinking it down in record quantities! LOL
Some of these posts are really making me giggle! I’m blown away at the anger and hatred for LE and the complacent attitude towards the criminals. I just don’t get it. Blows my mind! (albeit a small explosion) ROFLMAO
Now I know why Haleigh has not been found.
LoL jason! Kaboooooom!
‘Anit nobody been lookin’.
the UNLAWFUL tactics of LE has CRUCIFIED and TORTURED misty til there is nothing left!
LE wants her DEAD!!! shes an EMBARRASSMENT!!
Living proof they BOTCHED this case from the git!
Thats right Jaba!
JB, You know how I think and its not what OJ or Jason are thinking and saying. Seems some wonder about the bond but I dont I still see him sitting in jail so it doesnt really matter how low it is. jmo
Humpty Dumpty Did NOT FALL!
He was PUSHED!
I think someone missed something here.
The son was raised by his mother and her husband, not Hardy. The son even went as far as taking his step-fathers’ name. Why is Hardy responsible for the ex-son? Valid question….
All the money offered is being offered with conditions.
Padilla had conditions for Misty which her lawyer would not allow her (if he continued to represent her) to agree to; Ronald Cummings check for $35,000 was for the reward to solve the case and is only valid upon solution of the case, if applicable to a particular person or persons who directly solve (other than LE, etc.) the Haleigh case.
Ronald Cummings I don’t think would ever leave money on the table.
While he was unemployed, homeless, he paid $400 for the tats. The $400 was probably hard earned money donated by a good hearted person listening to the sob story.
Also, I am not saying Hardy is or is not interjecting any influence in this case.
However, as a person that doesn’t take things thrown out without proof, I did want to see what the guidelines were, what this Joshua was charged with, and what his criminal background is (still searching that one).
Hardy does have influence and if you don’t believe he does than Peter Pan lives in the house next to you also.
He did say that as a family member he would support his son in whatever way a family should support.
It is obvious by that statement, to me, they are not estranged.
My opinions only – just like the gleam of light to reflect the truth.
IMO
A
CathyJo, yes. And the two year old would have gone up with them. All four were charged with child neglect, and the two year was released to family members.
aww are you ok OJ?? i am torry your womans a quack,lmbo i am messin….j/t
Cathy so was Jack by Jill the Biotch was mad.jmo
Jason…so be angry with Joshua and his ability to blow up the block. NOT Joshua’s father, mother, sister, cousin, aunt, uncle, OR brother’s friend’s sister-in-law’s uncle’s neighbor’s friend who is a COP!
JOSHUA is responsible for his crime. NOT his father. NOT his mother. NOT anyone BUT JOSHUA. The fact JOSHUA’s father is in LE has NO BEARING on JOSHUA’s CRIME OR JOSHUA’S decision to COMMIT the CRIME.
Should every preacher who has a daughter get pregnant out of wedlock be burned at the stake?
Should every parent of a criminal be subjected to endless criticism, attack and ridicule?
Heck, if we’re going down that road should we just say all Middle Eastern persons are members of Al Quaida, all African Americans are gang bangers and pimps, all whites are KKK, etc? Where do you stop? All LE with criminals in their family are also criminals and are most definitely corrupt? I don’t think so!
roflmsao!!!!! Tobias!!!! down girl………….you better be good to my dog!
Bye Y’all… I don’t like the way this is going. If WE have issues with the low bond, then we do! It is low as hell, and it don’t seem right!
Have at it.
Joshua is Jeff Hardy’s son for life, not just until he is given his step-father’s surname.
omg? were there homes checked,lol seriously?
Since the 2 year old was in the car there is no fact saying he lived or ever was to the house. You are assuming so many things its not even funny. You dont even know who the 2 year old belongs to yet you have it being Hardys grandchild. Its like a lynch mob. jmo
i’d better clear up why i asked that,F bonbs will fly! lol
I mean Jason,when was he arrested,today and if so they already placed the 2yr old?
i resemble that reamark JB! i WAS A PREACHERS DTR WHO GOT KNOCKED UP AND HAD A SHOTGUN WEDDIN’ lol
Its a tough question to answer, I bet.
I’ll ask it again, what about the flunking of polys before and after arrests?
Are misty and her brother in the very minute percent of folks who fail or pass polys due to some other circumstance?
I’m sure it can be answered in many ways, though straight innocence is a stretch of immense proportions.
Waiting on the silence,
Jaba.
Adams,its ok,stay…i know how you feel!
Thats why this is important to me right now,the son i could care less who is his daddy,but a 2 yr old in a car and meth in the same sentence dont jive with me either!
CathyJo – well according to some…your pappy should have been hung! LOL
Tobias….yes, it is a lynch mob mentality….now I’m remembering why I took 5 days away from this case….oh wait, we aren’t even discussing the case……….. *sigh*.
I’m outta here.
Jeff Hardy is the HEAD of Putnam County LE. It is his job to KNOW what criminal activity is going on in the county, including his own family.
If he doesn’t know his son is manufacturing and selling meth, then how little does he know about the criminal activity of others in the county?
but i hope he don’t get out of jail!!!!
Jason,
Didn’t find Hood, but found lots of other Imms who seem to be relatives. Will keep looking.
A
Tobias @ 4:55: Whose assuming the 2 yr old is Jeff Hardy’s grandchild?
sorry Jaba,too educated for me,lol i don’t know what some of them words even mean,honest! I leave the intelligence to most of you,thats why i am always sitting here like i own the place,lol
My ex is a friggin detective and we’ve been divorced for like 6-7 yrs and he doesn’t have a clue what our kids are up to. They don’t tell him squat. They don’t even tell cops who their dad is if they get pulled over for a traffic violation. And if, God forbid, something ever did happen, he wouldn’t help them out of any mess that they would get into of an illegal matter. He just wouldn’t. Cops have an ego thing like that, trust me.
I hope i didn’t run JB and Adams off,if i did i never meant too! I like talking and even arguing about it sometimes when we all know one another so well and know we mean no harmn,just a crowd who is here for Justice for Haleigh! promise!!
i believe that Lucy,i also believe there are good cops as well as bad,we are all human..bad/good/evil/ugly………for each neighbor theres always 2 grouches..lol
Just sayin’: Incompetance. A small county, sheriff’s son running a meth lab out of a house, but the sheriff doesn’t know.
Totally clueless sheriff searching for Haleigh Cummings, uh-huh.
I might get hunted down after this,lol not funny really but i did know a cop/detective whose brother sells drugs and he goes there himself to party! but not all cops do that!
doesn’t mean i agree either,just whaddya do?
Bye, Jeff.
lol jason,
teds home bbs!
CathyJo, to me it’s just very sad that the person in charge of searching for Haleigh claims to have not even known the criminal activity of his own son.
Not good.
CJ,
When I see strong opinions posted emphatically about someones innocence but nothing concrete to back it up, it makes me wonder why? Is there no concrete, is there no plausible answer as to why someone fails ldt’s and so do other family members on the same case, knowing that the odds are stacked way against that, it makes me wonder if there is any more real reason for those emphatic lines than just to utter them for the shock factor.
Family can’t run a meth lab without rumors leaking.
Later, CathyJo! I didn’t get around to asking how your trip went. Let us know when you get back, OK?
I don’t think anyone was chased off. The day is winding down for some. Sounds like the son was probably buying or in possession of cold meds and transporting meth to be sold or transporting the actual seller of the meth. May be not as involved as cooking the meth with a child.
You know his son will be be in PC with Tommy. If not, they’ll kick his butt or kill him.
lucy, He will be in with Ron. Tommy is in St. Johns with Misty. Ron is in Putnam where imms is being held.jmo
I thought they transferred Tommy and Misty to Putnam Co after the search. They are popping up on Putnam Co’s custody site. Ron’s in general population now. Donna Brock is the only one in St Johns. I checked out the web sites.
Hmm…remeber this? I wonder if there is a connection?
More Tapes From Ronald Cummings
Posted on April 22nd, 2010 http://www.bloggernews.net/124378
cobra: did you have to find her from some crack house the day before?
ron: no, did not. no, i did not.
cobra: why is everybody hating on you, dog?
ron: i can tell you right now what it is. crystal (unintelligible) …also she turned
right on national tv… she got paid by Geraldo 10,000 dollars to say I`m a confidential
informant.
cobra: are you?
ron: no, i am not.
cobra: alright.
ron: you know what?
cobra: huh? I AM. I AM… I work for (unintelligble) boys.
ron: well were gonna be um, everybody is gonna subpeoned to court
including john merchant who is the lead detective in this…
cobra: yeah, what did he do?
ron: he has no… he is the lead detective in this case.
cobra: which one got caught with some pot and coke in his car and got
pulled of the case and put on desk job, is that merchant?
ron: no
cobra: no, who was that, do you know who that was?
ron: i think that might have been chris middleton, i dont` know
Just checked Putnam Ron is still the only one in the inmates. Tommy and Misty are still in St. Johns.
JB –
you are totally over-reacting. No one has made, or close to making, the accusations you are asserting in your outburst.
However, from what I am reading and my thought process is to compare the method of arriving at appropriate bonds for the crimes involved in these two cases.
Ten prescription pills or the whatever it was, the infamous four were charged with, in my thinking, compared to two first degree felonies of manufacturing meth, selling meth to undercover agents, maintaining a drug vehicle, possessing drug paraphanilla, endangerment to a child, honestly can’t remember all of them is a little off center of the guidelines in the amounts of less than $10,000 while the infamous four received million dollar bonds down to quarter million, I believe.
Perhaps if ten or twelve more people were compared if might prove to be an scale that has a liberal movement, having nothing at all to do with favoring one over the other.
Lady Justice is presented blindfolded for a good reason and that is how it should be and how we, the public, should be sure it does.
Should they all have large bonds, yes they should, all of them. Only in that way is this small town of Satsuma going to get cleaned up for its little children to be handed a better life.
Then another and another town be cleaned up, and before long, perhaps finally a dent will be made in the revolving criminal door of these offenders.
But to hand manufacturers of this cancer a less than ten thousand dollar bond is beyond the pale.
Also, please don’t yell –
but, Tommy did mention in one of his tapes the Sheriff’s son was a pill head.
Oddly that tape has not been released. Perhaps Simon will be able to bring it to the surface for review.
Perhaps also it was the tape that alerted the LE to possible drug activity of Joshua Toy Imm and his cohorts.
My opinions only.
A
You have to check in the inmates search. The arrest records are there but they are not inmates of PUTNAM COUNTY. JMO
looking for Justice said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 11:08 am
She was picked up at 3:30 and Art made a typical boo boo or typo. The school gets out at 3:00 per their website and bus arrival is approximately 3:30.
Ann, excellent post, and interesting that Tom mentioned the sheriff’s son popping pills.
You’re right. I stand corrected. They were sent back to St John’s, bet they love that.
I gave you the link to Joshua Troy Imm’s arrest record in regard to these charges today at
4:18 pm
A
Tommy mentioned the sheriffs son Jason……..oh Jason,we decided to wait till tomorrow evening to go to ky,lol
Gr8888888 Post Ann…as alway’s! I like alot of your posts!
not alot,all really,lol
i luv u
yw . it can get confussing when they move them for court and for the search. I dont get some of the comments being made when the Imms guy is still in jail reguardless of what his bail is. And a judge decided it not anyone else.
So do we replace all the judges in putnam too?
Hardy is not to blame for his estranged sons activities just like all of us we dont know what our Adult children do 24/7. And its just not fair to drag the guy through the mud.
Also would you who think the bail is to high for the imfamous 3 open the cell doors and let them go? Do you think that will find Haleigh?jmo I am leaving now keep hammering away at Hardy for being so focused on finding Haleigh that he didnt go over and force his way into his estranged sons home to see what he was doing. Oh and maybe it wasnt even in his home maybe it was in a friends home. jmo
Some of us just have a stronger point of view i guess,lol
I see Lucy,I was under the impression the ld’s are very reliable,especially so i guess when you have more than one and come up failing,
as far as other things i am clueless….but lol it is a LIE detector? non admissable in court which i am sure you know!
I wonder who is jonsing for drugs with all these dealers in jail? Watch for it!
Also, if Ron hid her out to keep her from being “stole”, where would he hide her?
Let’s all go on down there and shake things up, lol – okay, I am totally kidding….
Who is actually investigating if the le is full of criminals!?
Lets see if Lyndsay opens up, as ron told her too! Please Lyndsay, you are the sanest one I have seen!
sigh…..
i luv u all…
Sounds like Putnam Co has some serious drug issues for such a small place. It looks like kind of rural area, not much going on to have such a serious problem with narcotics…..What’s up with that? I must be totally naive.
i love you too Chrome and if you be good to my dog,I’ll love you more!
sorry guys…….lol some of us need a laugh now and again!
Satsuma is small but the county is not very small. Go to map quest putnam covers a lot of cities and rural areas. jmo
she ain’t looking to sane Chrome,lol Nowwww
Chrome,tommy said he was done with drugs a few weeks ago,now he’s singing a different tune,lol
even Lindsey said,I don’t think you could quit Tom!
Cathy, I am gonna be one peed off lady if LP buys her that Nissan Altima shewants so bad. I hope she has to drive that van she coudnt get the oil changed in. lol jmo
and ofcourse he is wishing to go to rehab while being recorded……..i guess to sway the judge! Hopes audio sure swayed him! sheesh
O God Tobias,where do i start clapping…..Bingo! sorry,but that girl is uhh errrr well uhhhh immature as a 1 yr old!
Tommy wonders why she is working out,dieting,ruuuuuuuuuro……..maybe she wants to move to Ca!
I think imvho……..the girl would use anybody!
If he buys into her scheme,i will call him and propose to him!rofl
So, when an employer fires a person from a job and that person turns around and screams discrimination, the employer quickly fires someone else of similar circumstances to make it look like they are being fair.
My point is this:
There are a lot of claims that they specifically set the 4 up to get caught, that they only targeted them because of Haleigh. Now I am sure there are a lot of Attorneys out there that are choppin at the bit to get ahold of that. In fact, that could be a reason in court to have some things thrown out. (Especially those high bails). So, to cover their arses, did the Sherriff say lets just go ahead and bust my stepson and his methlab, that will show everyone that we don’t care who it is. If they are doing drugs, then they are busted.
Maybe he needs to prove ‘impartiality’ and ‘non judgmental’ decisions. Maybe his butt could be on the line. Maybe 7,500 because that holds a lower bail than selling? I don’t know what the normal bails are. I do know it depends on the crime and many other variables. (including a risk factor of running).
Just food for thought.
Oh, that’s so silly! I love you too! Your so sexy.
Tobias: So sorry off my rocker here! Satsuma is small and rural and in Putnam Co. So what’s the deal with Misty, Tommy, Hope, and Donna being held in St John’s Co and Ron in Putnam Co.? Were they not running all over filling these prescriptions and buying and selling pills? I know Donna & Misty had even went to Virginia to a Dentist to get some prescriptions.
Hell Tobias,my car smokes more than I do,wheres lp when ya need him!
Cathy, You know darned well she smokes pot. Listen to her voice light up when she is talking about the place in California that Tim wants to move to. She also more or less condons it when Tommy says maybe he should have stuck to that instead of the pills. jmo
Tobias,my bumper sticker says,honk if sommin falls off,lol
ofcourse,enablers……..its easier to stay high for her as long as he does too! she makes him quit she’d have too,lol
Here is the visit where Tommy says that the sheriff son is worst than him on them damn pills.
Quote:
Tommy C: See that damn sheriff, his son is worst than I am on them damn pills. The sheriff’s son, hes worst on those pills than I am.
around 5:05 on the tape: http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/2…4-2-9-10-d.htm
They sold in Putnam, Flagler and St. Johns county. jmo
I personally like at the end of the tape when Tommy says “It’s not really Misty’s fault”.
Can this guy make up his mind or what? Oh wait, his mind is GONE!
BINGO!
I will be perfectly honest,i worry about what ppl think of me all the time but the truth is the truth and i know about it firsthand!
Tobias,i never said this……God i loved my husband with all my heart,i did!!!!! he was an alcoholic when i married him,i didn’t know it,didn’t know the first thing about drugs and alcohol……….his liver got so bad and his dr told him to stop drinking or he’d be gone in 5 yrs……every drink was like gas on a wildfire,he quit for 2 yrs……and I am so ashamed of what i thought but because its easier sometimes to live with what we are used too than it is too change and i honestly caught myself thinking a few times,God it would be so easy to have him drinking again because then i knew how to act around him,I never knew him sober!
ya know,i know thats sad and wrong but i did and i regret it so bad but i didn’t plan on thinking that way Tobias!
….and they all moved to little Amsterdam and lived happily ever after. The End.
Still no believers in the innocence of misty care to ponder the lie detector angle?
We all know they are not admissable but they are used in so many different places(workplace,LE, military) that we should all realize how much they tell you about the veractiy of the subjects answers. They do baseline these tests against known answers to both parties before the ‘real’ questions start.
I’m listening…:)
It breaks my heart now!
Cathy… I love you and your honesty!!
Cathy I believe you and I think Lindsy thought Tommy would be different but she is realizing its not all the drugs , its him. He is what he is even sober and he has to want to quit and right now I dont think he does. I dont think a judge will either. You have some experience could he do it without the rehab? If he really wanted to stay clean? jmo
jaba: OK I’ve taken polygraphs before and I have never been told that I passed or failed. I was told that it showed no deception. what are you asking or are you asking anything? There are actually more baseline questions than questions relating to the subject matter of the test.
Thank You Adams,too honest for my own good sometimes i guess but even in bad times,worst times it was still our time together,and if the truth even makes one think,then good because i know i am not the only one who ever thought that cause i am only human too Adams,I am just the one who don’t care to say it when i know i can trust the people i tell it too,ya know what i mean?
tobias,
I have great admiration for your thinking and your posts.
1) Agree – the judge decides the bail.
2) Agree – parents are not responsible for their
adult children.
3) Disagree – No one and no post that I read is dragging Hardy through mud.
4) Agree – the bail for the infamous 4 should stand, and, no, they would do nothing to help find Haleigh is they were out on bond.
5) Disagree with your mere assumptions that Hardy is focusing so much on the Haleigh case that he is letting other criminal activity slide by; and
Disagee with your assumption that because for a reason we have no idea of, Joshua Troy selected a different last name (Hardy too politically known could even be a reason?) makes him estranged from his father.
His father clearly stated that he would support his son in every way possible as a family does a family member.
My thinking is that judges make the most mistakes, especially in criminal cases. Why?
Again, we don’t know. Assumptions can be made, obvious ones would be friendships get involved, influence gets involved, campaign funding gets involved, due diligence by the lawyers presenting (both sides) get involved. There are many, many reasons why Lady Justice is not always fair.
A
I did it without rehab and he did too Tobias but he broke over after the 2 yrs!
Cathy, I get ya!!
Tobias,IMHO its in the mind,if you really wanna stop,you can!
CathyJo, weather might make tomorrow a better idea (just thinking it might be raining today).
Do any of us know if Hank Sr. and Lisa are still staying away from Misty and Tommy? On that last tape, we listened to, none of the family had heard from them, but Nanny.
Remember on that one tape, Hank Sr. said he would take a gun a shoot his own son if he found out they were involved in hurting Haleigh.
Hank Sr has been really quiet since the river search. I wonder what is going on.
not saying its easy,Like for instance my husband quit and he closed off,he wouldn’t speak hardly,he watched tv all the time and even me walking through the house got on his nerves!
If think misty was set up, I’d ask that isn’t it harder to have someone sell drugs to a cop than the other way around. Multiple times she did this or facilitated a sale, as did Ron. Its all there on tape.
Did the cops Want to get them dirty, hell yes, just like any other tips they get where they can bust drug dealers. Someone told the cops they were dealing. The cops set up a plan after the initial tip and put it into action. The criminals took the bait, did it over and over, on camera, even making comments like “I can’t get in trouble for anything”-misty.
If cops are corrupt in PC, it sounds like at least the officers working on the drug end of things and text booked a case with willing participants. That’s the way it is supposed to work.
Tobias, Putnam County is average sized geographically, with a sparse population – just a little over 70,000 people in the entire county. Palatka, the county seat, only has about 10,000 people.
I think for me Tobias,i had to learn to live w/o being high! so i do think its Psychological ya know,llike at family reunions,holidays,simple things like having fun i had to have a pill or i thought i was no fun! and i also thought i can’t enjoy things w/o them but now…I knowwwww i can! So Thank God,I have made it!
Joshua Imm’s lives on COUNTY ROAD 309, but I haven’t found out how close to the boat dock area that was searched for Haleigh.
Misty failing the LDT repeatedly – why, my thoughts are because she is covering for someone more important to her than herself, that she is fearful of harm to herself and others, or, that she honestly was out on drugs and has no earthly idea of what happened but is not being honest in telling LE that.
Why she keeps taking them is another mystery. One would think her attorney would have advised her not to take another one after her first showed deception.
And what about Ronald Cummings. It is not known whether in face his one and only test showed deceit of not. He is a clever one as he immediately got a lawyer and that was protected.
Always think of Ted Bundy and the Green River Rapist – both passed LDT.
Sociopathic personalities, it is said, can pass.
So, perhaps, OJ can take comfort in that Misty is probably not a sociopath.
A
p.s for once I also know that I’;ll never have that problem again tho i will be an addict for the rest of my life,even one pill would do it….so i steer clear even though i know i will neverrrrrrr do it again!
Jaba,
It is possible that she has stuff hidden deep in her subconscious from that night. Who knows what mental disorders she has. Take for example PTSD. It is a well documented fact that when they Re experience a trauma, they get a general numbing of responsiveness (which we have seen in Misty) and they sometimes are unable to remember certain aspects of the trauma.
So, when she takes the lie detector tests, etc. (which by the way, she requested and asked to take more, because she wants to know what happened, tells me that she can’t honestly remember) it will show she is being dishonest in her answers because her subconcious knows the truth. I think it is so painful, that she has supressed it extremely deep.
Although, now that hopefully the drugs have cleared from her body, maybe she can start to recall more. She already gave the police a lot of information, but looks genuinely confused and disoriented in most of her talks with them.
That is just one example. It could be multi personalities. One personality is taking the LDT and because the truth is hidden within, it shows she is not being truthful. It could also be that she took drugs (or was given a date rape drug by someone) and has sketchy recall, but it is somewhere in her memory. I have seen this drug work first hand.
I don’t think Misty is some mastermind that is capable of fooling a lie detector or the FBI. They have nothing to show that she did anything wrong here (except not keep an eye on Haleigh, but if she was asleep and Haleigh was taken, where is the crime Misty’s fault?)
On the other hand, maybe Misty had a pychotic break that night from the trauma Ron inflicted on her, mixed with drugs or alcohol? Maybe she did do something and can’t remember due to being pschotic?
I think all the speculation and theories have distorted mere possibilities to explain how this could be happening. Its much easier for everyone to say she had to have ‘purposely’ did something. She may be completely innocent. We don’t know. No one has even been named a suspect yet! We just know that LE has several in mind. Hmmm, why won’t they name who they are?
SLcy,
I’m asking anyone who thinks misty is innocent why she fails polys or idictates deception in her answers before and after her drug arrest.
The toddler’s mother is Amanda Tomlinson.
Earlier today we were discussing Hank Sr., Lisa and Lindsey and wondering if just maybe they aren’t working with LE on isolating Misty and Tommy. Hank and Lisa were suppose to be in Court initially next week with Tommy but they appeared last week and received probation. No one has heard anything about them visiting or talking to Misty or Tommy. Lindsey came back from her trip to see Timmy & Chelsea and filed for divorce and no one knows if she has visited Tommy or talked to him. Could LE have encouraged them to not talk or visit to force Tommy & Misty to think about things and tell the truth. I’m thinking it’s possible with all the stuff that’s come to light, although it’s been a very dim light. They need to stop lying and tell the truth. Ron is involved to some degree and Misty needs to tell the truth.
wow Ann!!!!! Didn’t know that!
Yes Jason,ty……we figured we might stay the night so the weekend is bestter,lol
I am curious about that too Lucy!
The meth lab was at Joshua’s residence on County Rd 309. He could have been cookin’ chemicals while police were down the road searching for Haleigh . . .
Cathy, You should be proud of you sobriety and you are the most honest person on here, I am glad to know you. I think others feel the same way and when you were gone we missed you alot.
Speaking of missing (even though we didnt always agree) I wonder what happened to m2c?
I never thought she would just up and disappear without saying good bye at least.???moo
As I love you too Adams!!!!! and i am not just saying it like Lindsey and T!
I always think of her too Tobias,And i am flattered by your words! Really actually i may need to run in a second…….but i do miss her,lol just because we disagree don’t mean i doin’t think very highly of all you guys!
but you’ve brought me to my knee’s because for once in my life Tobias,I am proud of me too! Even if i do try to escape from myself sometimes,lol
I am tongue tied,it took mme forever to type this,lol
I also really enjoyed the part where Tommy said the van needed a new motor, but other than that… it’s the tops! Classic Croslin.
Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?
A simple Thanks Does not even seem fitting!
Pinky,did you notice also she said she may wait till her friend gets here…..so he could fix it or buy a car I assume!Cruel to use a person!
I wonder if anyone deducted this idea:
I think Haleigh missed a lot of school because she was ill (and possibly a lot due to drugged up caretakers), but isn’t it possible that Haleigh died of natural causes? The peeing in the bed that Misty talks about could of been a sign of her deteriorating. Maybe she vomited and that is what Misty remembers washing out of the blanket?
There is that one foot print of Haleighs (evidence) out the back door….i think where someone almost dropped her….the dog scents went through the woods down towards the water.
Isn’t it possible that someone took Haleigh out of the house and down through the woods to the water to a waiting boat? Isn’t it possible they were going to come back and get Jr, but Misty had woke up and foiled the plan?
You are very welcome and I am sure I can say WE really do understand and care about you. You have made alot of us your friend.jmo
Cathy Jo, I think the friend is LP. (remember she let his name slip, then giggled and said, Oh, I wasn’t supposed to say his name, was I?)
Amanda Tomlinson was one of the four arrested in connection with the meth lab.
Dare I wonder if she is connection to Joshua Troy Imm – as in they have this child together?
Believe she is 27.
A
why would they hide that Jen.sorry if its me who don’t get it,lol
Sorry, Amanda Tomlinson is 22.
A
@ Tobias 7:04, Yes, YOU HAVE, CathyJo! I love your humor, too. I was thinking today how fun it would be to read CathyJo’s blog.
What blog, you say? Ah – maybe in the winter when you’re snow bound you can set up a WordPress blog.
Ann, I’m wondering, too, as Joshua and her are closest in age of the four.
Tommy saying his parents are on a bender was false because they were spotted by media filling up the car when the search was going on. So we know they have the car and money for gas. I think they are just fed up. jmo
Tommy: I like the van…
Lindsy: It does really need a motor but…it…I don;t want the stupid thing..
Tommy: Yea, I know but..
Lindsy: A Nissan Ultima…you watch…
TOmmy: (laughs)
Lindsy: I found a couple of them on ebay for under $10,000…
Tommy: ( laughs hard) Where you gonna get that kind of money at?
Lindsy: I’m gonn figure it out…but don’t worry cops cuz I’m not gonna sell drugs..I’m no drug dealer (Laughs)
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Lindsy, you know what else can get you a Nissan Altima? A job. If she spent just
half the time working that she devotes to
finagling… she’d be rich!
Its amazing to think misty and tommy have trouble passing them.the odds are terrific.
The drugs have worn off both of them since they’ve been in and they have failed.
One would think that if ones client pass a LDT on some hard, pointed questions, that the attorney would wave it like a flag.
Deep seeded subconcious, I can’t remember because of what transpired seems thin to me but if true, and it could be, but you. Know they have been talking about it, her and ron that is.
If she was out and didn’t know what happened she would pass that question becasue there is nothing to recall,but more recent failures have been trying to prove someone else did it which she would have to make up if there was no recall, which could cause her to flunk. I have an idea that she has been asked about other things she’s been told or talked about. If she’s covering, she’s not innocent. There is no physical threat from Ron now, but I guess women in prison don’t like child killers than men do, so she may be afraid of that.
I appreciate the response to my q’s, but I can’t help but feel that the biggest proponent of misty is silent. Oh well, maybe she is innocent. There is always hope.
Thank You Tobias!!! I really do think you do,so its easy to share my life with people like you all!!!! Because I know i can trust you not to use it against me i guess,may sound silly but i am serious….When i got clean,I never saw even one of my friends again! But Thank God for Bnn because i found some who I truly know are my friends!and i look forward to seeing them every single day!
Me too Jen!
I want LP to buy me stuff too! lol I luv him
Cathyjo – 😉 lol
ya he says he is done with it when he is in “they’re listening mode”, then it is like at times they get chattin to much and things slip out. It is obvious he won’t quit, he has no support system for it. I also remember his dad talking about pills, do you think he was buying from Ron and that is how Misty met him? How did they meet after all?
omg toldya, now yall made me cry!
especially when most of us first met we had a tiff sometimes and now just to know that you do think of me as a friend means more than anything i could ever have or want for that matter!
I remember in the Jonbenet Ramsey case a point was made that statistically BEDWETTING causes tremendous angry and subsequent abuse from mostly mothers. Lot’s of conventional wisdom thinks that Patsy accidentally killed Jonbenet over yet another bedwetting incident. Misty being so lazy, high, and self centered could fall into that catagory. I can hear her now, “Crap, another soaked bed’ I’m going to teach this kid a lesson once and for all”. Whoops. Guess she won’t do that again. Just a thought.
Maybe when OJ and his wife rob the bank, Padilla will get them a car also. Wonder what kind of car he wants?
A
All i know is Hank said Ron tried to kill him with a pill once! Sorry,I am choked up here,even my finger won’t work right!! lol
Jason said, in May 6th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
I meant the last post to each of you but i wanted you to know i saw yours Jason.and Thank You!!!! it means alottttttt to me!
I also loved the respect Tommy shows for his dad. Happy Father’s day you big fat F. All
heart that kid. Sr. must be proud!
I’m thinking that Misty’s polygraph’s were showing deception with people not involvement. I think she knows who and what happened but she’s not directly involved. She’s in love and a teenager, it’s forever, it’s dangerous…..And stupid!
Lucy, I agree…alot has happened n the last couple of weeks, yet we havent heard any of the tapes or videos responding to anything close to what has transpired….Hank sr and Lisa was supposed to be n court on the 13th of May with Misty and Tommy….How can we find out how and why their cases were heard earlier??? If anyone knows….Also Simon, are there more audios or do you have any videos of the jailhouse bunch…..You have been on the ball getting the audios to us,,,are there more? One more thng, Simon, how long does it take for the LE to release these videos once they have been recorded….Seems like we are a month if not longer to be able to listen what they are up to…..Sure would like to hear current vids if possble….Thank you so much for all that you do to keep us informed……When you (Simon) or whoever inquire about the vids to be published, would they actually tell you whether they are communicating……Maybe thats a stupid question, but I wonder as someone else said maybe LE is trying to divide and conqur, and keep them isolated, being Msty and Tommy…oh well,,,,,just wantng to hear more….It s so hard to know these people KNOW what happened to that baby girl, Haleigh, and we cant do anything to help bring her home..
Tobias,that was mean of him to say when his dad was taking calls and visiting atleast and he says this knowing it would air on n/g! terrible!
pinky thats so mean for him to do!
Also, still looking for corroboration re: Ron’s supposed previous drug charges that carried no real legal consequences for him. Conventionally this = snitch. I heard it was nine previous. There should have been SOME time done for this. (unless I’m wrong. Heard it on NG awhile ago). Many drug dealers plan serious retribution for this, might even kill you or kidnap your child. Not unheard of. Once again, this isn’t my end all theory but it’s food for thought. When I lived in Kansas there was a similar case about a serious druggy being the son of a prominent judge. These things are usually super covered up. His eventual overdose and death was called a heart attack in the newspapers and his body cremated immedietly to protect the family. A known meth cook was kept on the street even though he killed the judges son with a “hot shot” because he knew the truth and there was so much at stake. The story is much more convoluted that that actually but this site is about Haleigh, not Carl and Harry.
I want more tapes too,it sure shows these people are just out there in lala land!
I remember that. Hank said he had to go to the hospital.
laurainfla said,in May 6th, 2010 at 7:22 pm I remember in the Jonbenet Ramsey case a point was made that statistically BEDWETTING causes tremendous angry and subsequent abuse from mostly mothers. Lot’s of conventional wisdom thinks that Patsy accidentally killed Jonbenet over yet another bedwetting incident. Misty being so lazy, high, and self centered could fall into that catagory. I can hear her now, “Crap, another soaked bed’ I’m going to teach this kid a lesson once and for all”. Whoops. Guess she won’t do that again. Just a thought
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Great points and example, LaurainFla. I always found it odd that Misty kept emphasizing the pee. Add to the mix, a tired, lazy, clean-freak tweaker, and you have a recipe for disaster.
he sure did! I think maybe he gave some to M to sell probably,just a thought….not saying he did,lol but what was it Lindsey said on the last audio about something m and t did to his dad?
There is no way of knowing why the cases for Hank and Lisa were moved up. They just were. Stuff happens like that when LE wants it to.
The tapes Simon released to us yesterday were from somewhere around the middle of March to the end of March. That was the best that we could guess from the clues that Lindsey and Tommy were saying. He got arrested on the 21st of Jan and he said he’d been away for 61 days.
i don’t know how i forgot what she said,lol
take this with a grain of salt too,lol but mg said Haleigh never did when she was around her so i don’t know!
She said Tommy and Misty beat up and stole Hanks pills. I think thats what went on when NayNay was there and Tommy got arrested for domestic and Hank lied and said they were wrestling and it got out of hand.(over dvds).
Makes you wonder what these people would do for drugs?? jmo
Pinkyandduhbrain said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 2:11 am
With all due respect Kate. Holmseth packs more nuts than a Snickers King Size bar.
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Pinkyandduhbrain, That’s what I thought until I really read the entire site. He’s carrying a very heavy burden. Wait and see.
StillLucy – According to the weather patterns they describe on tape… I think the tape was made on March 12th. +/- 1 day
lordy bee! I didn’t know they beat him up! omg thats horrible!!I thought it was Tommy,not Hank too!
Didn’t Hank press charges against Ron for giving him bad drugs, claimed Ron tried to kill him or poison him or something?
I have gotta eat,lol my tummy thinks my throats cut! I’ll bbs as i can!
I think thats why Hank got into trouble Tommy and Misty kept stealing his pills. Hank should have turned Tommy and Misty in but you can bet Lindsy would have put them out on the street.
jmo
Well my name for Tommy is hanky panky and my name for Misty is Mistery.
Now that’s silly! Tee Hee I love you too.
Reminder: What’s normal to us is not normal to them.
Goodnight everyone I hope we get to hear Mistys audio for these dates soon. Wonder how she reacts to Tommys message of Rev. 21 -8 about liars and murderers going to hell?jmo
Sorry just had to post this before I left. On the last tape Lindsy saysHank is telling Misty to stop protecting Ron. I wonder if thats why she made up the lie about Joe and Tommy? To deflect from Ron? jmo
Tobias: Sure it is. Misty is only going to protect Ron and to heck with everyone else. That’s why someone needs to tell her that he has a new female friend……..Blow it up!!!!
Anyone wonder why Nay Nay would write the letter she did about Misty being at a party, etc, etc. and try to burn Misty by saying she set her up to have sex that night with White Boy Greg? What would be NayNays purpose?
Did her plan to help Ron’s Ex (Amber) fail? I read that Amber despised Misty. Amber and Ron have a child together (a boy). Amber and Misty got in a fight over Ron and Misty reportedly said, “I got your husband, and next I will have your son too”! Amber and NayNay are good friends. Yet, NayNay acted like she was Misty’s friend, till she got jailed and wrote dirt on her. So, did Amber and NayNay make a plan for NayNay to get Misty to a party (or somewhere) so someone could sneak in and get Haliegh? Did she want to teach Misty a lesson that bad? Was she that angry?
Just more thoughts to ponder.
Sheriff’s son and 3 others face drug charges
Published: Thursday, May 6, 2010 2:14 PM EDT
(Sheriff’s Office News Release) East Palatka – On May 5, 2010, Detectives with the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office Drug/Vice Unit conducted a narcotics operation in the parking lot of the Sunoco convenience store, located at 276 Highway 17 South, in East Palatka. The operation consisted of purchasing methamphetamine from unsuspected sellers who were being investigated for manufacturing and selling of methamphetamine. Four (4) individuals were arrested for actively participating in the sell of methamphetamine to the undercover detectives. After detaining the subjects, detectives determined that a two year-old child was awaiting the individuals inside their vehicle during the transaction. The child was released to family members, and the Florida Department of Children and Family Services was notified of the incident. The investigation also revealed that the individuals were manufacturing methamphetamine at another location in East Palatka. Detective responded to the secondary location and dismantled the active methamphetamine lab. The following individuals were arrested:
-Scott Charles Hood, DOB: 11/24/1974, was arrested and charged with the sale of methamphetamine, possession of listed chemicals used to manufacture methamphetamine, possession of methamphetamine, maintaining a drug vehicle, possession of a controlled substance without a prescription, production of methamphetamine, possession of drug paraphernalia, and child neglect. Bond: $16,528.00
-Johanna Leigh Smith, DOB: 4/13/1984, was arrested and charged with the sale of methamphetamine, possession of listed chemicals used to manufacture methamphetamine, maintaining a drug vehicle, possession of drug paraphernalia, and child neglect. Bond: $7,520.00
-Amanda Ashley Tomlinson, DOB: 12/20/1987, was arrested and charged with the sale of methamphetamine, possession of listed chemicals used to manufacture methamphetamine, maintaining a drug vehicle, possession of drug paraphernalia, and child neglect. Bond: $7,520.00
-Joshua Troy Imm, DOB: 1/17/1984, was arrested and charged with the sale of methamphetamine, possession of listed chemicals used to manufacture methamphetamine, maintaining a drug vehicle, possession of drug paraphernalia, and child neglect. Bond: $7,020.00
Joshua Imm is the 26 year-old son of Sheriff Jeff Hardy. Sheriff Hardy is saddened by the arrest of his son, but has directed his detectives and correctional officers to treat his son in the same manner as any other individual charged with these crimes. Sheriff Hardy wants to assure everyone that his son will not receive any special treatment because of their relationship. This is a personal family matter, and Imm who is an adult, does not reside with the Sheriff. Sheriff Hardy will of course stand beside his son in regard to these allegations and will assist him as a family member in anyway possible. Sheriff Hardy has stated that he will not become involved in the criminal prosecution, and does not want his position to influence the State Attorney’s case. Sheriff Hardy is proud of the investigators who worked this case, and the fact that they didn�t allow his and Imm�s relationship to influence the investigation. Neither Sheriff Hardy, nor other members of the agency, will be conducting interviews concerning this arrest. He has urged that this case be handled in the same manner as other similar cases.
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/05/06/news/news01.txt
here’s another article..
http://www.news4jax.com/news/23475927/detail.html
bbs as i eat,just got this in email,prolly seen it but wasn’t sure!
I keep going back to the tape where Tommy made it clear that if he wanted to work the next morning, he had to have some pills. He had to of went out looking for them that night. So, I think him and Joe took the van and went looking or Tommy went and got the van himself. He did something for sure. He didn’t just walk around outside. The van had a scratch down the side and leaves and bushes stuck in the headlight. I think the scratch is from being drove up next to the dumpster when Haleighs body was taken out. The bushes are from where he drove through an area to dump her or bury her.
Just more thoughts to ponder.
I dunno what to make of this,true/false…dunno but you might like to see it so here it is!
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/misty-cummings-what-really-happened/
I can’t see Amber messing with Ron like that. Everyone down there says Amber is scared to death of Ron. Her grandmother has custody of the baby boy now.
stilllucy said,in May 6th, 2010 at 6:45 pm Earlier today we were discussing Hank Sr., Lisa and Lindsey and wondering if just maybe they aren’t working with LE on isolating Misty and Tommy. Hank and Lisa were suppose to be in Court initially next week with Tommy but they appeared last week and received probation. No one has heard anything about them visiting or talking to Misty or Tommy. Lindsey came back from her trip to see Timmy & Chelsea and filed for divorce and no one knows if she has visited Tommy or talked to him. Could LE have encouraged them to not talk or visit to force Tommy & Misty to think about things and tell the truth. I’m thinking it’s possible with all the stuff that’s come to light, although it’s been a very dim light. They need to stop lying and tell the truth. Ron is involved to some degree and Misty needs to tell the truth.
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yes, most likely LE coerced hank & lisa to cooperate. Its a tatic to isolate misty and slowly destroy her mind! LE wants misty DEAD! shes become an embarrassment to LE and a symbol of their inepitude and botched bungling of the haleigh investigation!
misty is innocent!
Chrome:
IIRC ron and misty met through Amber Brooks,Ronalds ex and maybe baby daddy ,I think she was babysitting and also at their mutual bus stop.
Yep CathyJo your right supposedly Ron gave Hank Sr.a bad pill that landed him in the psych ward a couple days.LOL
new article guys!
LoL i THINK HIS PROBS BEGAN BEFORE THAT LOL
CathyJo63 said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
pinky thats so mean for him to do!
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Yep!
His true colors, shining through. tommy is anything but what he paints for all to see.
he is a cut throat. anything that’s in his
path, that he deems is of no value to him,
will be ignored or eliminated. In so many
ways, he is a duplicate copy of Misty. Just
the male version.
She’s going to jail for the drug dealing for sure. Plead guilty or no contest, either way, its a few miles away from Innocent.
She can wait those 20 some years in prison to decide to tell what happened and tell it, or she can tell it now and probably save some years, if she’s innocent in the haleigh matter. Either way, she’ll have a ton of time to think about it.
I just don’t know why she won’t tell the truth! whats so bad.hmmmmm
I’d think 25 yrs is bad enough…so i don’t get why she won’t if it would help!
Evening All!
enjoyed reading all the posts. Since I have many theories but none cut in stone I don’t mind all the controversies. At this point I believe everyone is guilty and yet noone is guilty. Inspector Cuso. It is rudimentary! My favorite words are “what if”. Anything is possible with the little bit of knowledge we have in this case and the pieces we do have can be construed in multiple ways. I have an open mind and my “what if’s” make many scenario’s possible. That’s why I take nothing for granted including Hardy’s son being involved in drug manufacturing. Just produces more “what if’s” for me.
Hope everyone hasn’t moved to the new article.
All righty than…
ann said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
The early stories was a boil. Believe it was Theresa in her smooth manner that explained his susceptibility to boils and how this one had to be aspirated.
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Crystal verified through Marie, that Ron was susceptible to cysts on his neck and got them frequently throughout the course of their relationship. I don’t recall Teresa ever speaking of Ron’s cyst ever. I only heard Marie speak of Crystal telling her how Ronald got them often.
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ann said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
While he was unemployed, homeless, he paid $400 for the tats. The $400 was probably hard earned money donated by a good hearted person listening to the sob story.
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That is absolutely incorrect. Ronald’s tats were donated. The money was paid directly to the tattoo parlor. He did not spend one dime on them, nor did he have a choice on where he got them.
Regarding the Teresa tattoo, Ron does have a tat that says Teresa which he got after she had a serious accident. Under her name, it also says “aka Mom” (or mother), I forget which one. There are pictures of it where you can see it quite clearly.
tobias said,
in May 6th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
According to the Jacksonville news, the meth lab was in Hardy’s son’s home, not the others. They weren’t estranged, the son just found it inconvenient to use his dad’s name under the circumstances.
Obviously, this is B.S and Tommy just wants the focus off of himself. I guess this is before he took LE to the river. LOL. It is really sick when you think about it. Misty is covering for someone, and of course Tommy has no idea who that could be.
FDLE had to act/investigate after Tommy told all on Hardy’s son on audio….They HAD to act.
laurainfla said,in May 6th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
My point EXACTLY! Seen it happen too many times.
Hey to all!! First timer here!
An LPN is not a nurse, but rather, the person that cleans up all the messes, etc. They are not allowed to touch the medication cabinet! There goes the theory of Lindsy being set up, to get drugs.
It seems like both Lisa and Hank Sr. are in jail. It very well could be an attempt legally, for them to stop visiting Misty and Tommy.
I was very surprised to hear that Lindsy has filed for divorce! I think she made the decision because she hasn’t have the Croslin family for a while. But it is very strange, on when she filed. But, I think she must do whatever she can, to watch and take care of her children!
I’ve read some important information on Ronald. He hasn’t worked, since Haleigh went missing. I believe that Misty and Ronald are still together, and he told her that from jail. He had an interview, and he said at the end “I love my girlfriend”. I doubt he would of found someone new, and fell in love, with someone else. Also, both Misty and him were involved in the drug deal. He has been in trouble regarding drugs many times, but his mom alsways seems to get him off. I think he went into general population, because he doesn’t want to be safe. It is his guilt driving him. And also, in gen. pop. is where you get drugs from. Not to mention the loneliness in insolation. I wonder about his early years. I have read that he lived with Gr. and Grp Sykes. He lived with them, when he was young, and worshipped his grandfather!
After that, I don’t think he had many males in his life. He moved to live with his mother, in high school, with Crystal. They are approximately the same age. I think that when Crystal got pregnant, is when the moved out. Ron had to quit his IT program, in order to go to work to support wife and child.
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2010-04-26 28 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
2010-05-06 29 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM
2010-05-06 29 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
2010-05-06 30 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM
2010-05-06 30 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
JenM said,in May 6th, 2010 at 8:11 pm Anyone wonder why Nay Nay would write the letter she did about Misty being at a party, etc, etc. and try to burn Misty by saying she set her up to have sex that night with White Boy Greg? What would be NayNays purpose?
Did her plan to help Ron’s Ex (Amber) fail? I read that Amber despised Misty. Amber and Ron have a child together (a boy). Amber and Misty got in a fight over Ron and Misty reportedly said, “I got your husband, and next I will have your son too”! Amber and NayNay are good friends. Yet, NayNay acted like she was Misty’s friend, till she got jailed and wrote dirt on her. So, did Amber and NayNay make a plan for NayNay to get Misty to a party (or somewhere) so someone could sneak in and get Haliegh? Did she want to teach Misty a lesson that bad? Was she that angry?
Just more thoughts to ponder.
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ok… if we are going to ponder these thoughts we need to know the facts!!
Nay Nay did not say that happened! She said the police told her they have a signed affidavit from someone else that said that happened. Nay Nay was telling her boyfriend that it did NOT happen and she didnt know why they had said that.
Theres you some facts to ponder….
I stiil think joe did something to haleigh.misty was involved and tommy
Hey! I also am pondering – I read that Misty used to babysit for Amber! Somewhere, down the line, she met Ronald at a bus stop, and they started chatting. She gave him information regarding his son! They got to know each other, and Ronald asked her to babysit Haleigh and Jr. Over time, they started caring for each other!
Ronald had custody for the children, because Crystal was an unfit mother, heavy into drugs, and unable to support the kids at all, due to being a hard core druggie. Also, she didn’t even show up, for the court.
Perhaps she has changed, what with remarrying and having a new baby! But, I don’t think she wanted “the brats”. I wonder how Jr. is making out living with her, sure hope Dcs checks in, on him.
It’s interesting, how the Croslins are missing in action. Oh, just remembered, Misty and Tommy’s lawyers didn’t want their parents talking to anyone, about their cases.
Tommy is in jail for other crimes he committed, he was not involved with the drug bust. Misty also stated that he stole a gun, and other things from a B&E on the next store neighbour.
Guess I’ve dragged on, a bit. So bye!
hello. this is my first time here. i have followed the caylee anthoney case since day 1.as well as haleigh. i still think misty knows what happened.just maybe misty thinks that if she blames every body else,le will believe her and her an ron will get out of jail an be together again. i just dont know,as much as misty an tom lie why would the le believe someone tossed her in the river.only 2 cinder blocks.i feel that ron is invoived too.and lets not forget cousin joe i dont like his looks.when is he gonna take a ldt? if he was innocent he take one right away.
hello..just found you guys. Wanted to correct spikedlemon *I think that was the user name.
An LPN is a Licensed Practical Nurse. I think you’re confusing an LNA with an LPN.
LPN’s are certainly able to pass medication (and clean up messes as well as any other nurse for that matter).
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