On the subject of toilets:
We only get two flushes an hour.
I have to admit that this is one of the most disturbing video images I have seen.
It is hard to even comment on this case. The view of the child in the background is one of the most disturbing images I have seen.
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“F’ing Pills are f’ing bullshit” – Tommy at his best!
Do these tapes help find Haleigh Cummings? NO. But they do show an interesting side of the Croslin family.
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Disgusting… all of them!
Disgusting is putting it mild, and they will never change. I feel so sorry for the children.
Sad, just sad. It seems a shame that noone in this group of people can tell the truth about what happened to an innocent 5 year old child.
my opinion is the same as it was after the last tapes, and the ones before that, and the original tapes…….. Lindsy is unfortunately exhibits no more parenting skills that the rest of this “family”…… I have not a clue of why or how child protective services have not intervened for the sake of the children…. it is all so very sad to watch the generational repeat of dysfunction.
Does one need more than 2 flushes in an hour? Is the pot roast & po-taters in the clink really that bad?
He is blaming the Detectives/LE for his drug problem… “they” should have put him in rehab?
What is she talking about? At first I thought it was a “boob job” but now I think it is a piercing? What is it that Tommy doesn’t want her to do? Am I being stupid here?
Jill, I think it’s a private piercing!
Wow – why is that even entering her mind right now? I guess she is just young, etc… Those poor kids. People keep commenting about how Lindsay is losing patience with Tommy, I don’t see it. I wonder what prompted her to finally file for divorce.
Thanks Simon and Jan!
Tommy is a first class ASS!
Sorry to repeat myself, however I just don’t understand the thought process, dynamics, any modicum of common sense, for the well being of these children, be a priority, or somewhat of a concern for these people…
I think I am in the minority here, but I don’t buy into Lindsey Croslin being the model citizen/mother…. As they say, there is so much insight into how a person speaks….. or more accurately, exactly what they say. I have never seen/heard anyone as tired as Lindsey… let your little boy get up at 8am, dress and feed himself, then the mother can drag herself out of bed at 8:30….. but can’t go back to sleep. I can’t remember when sleeping in until 8:30 was an option….. nor can I image letting a 5/6 yr old get themselves up, fed and dress…. no wonder HaLeigh never made it to school on time, obviously education, or any type of boundaries or responsibility is not a priority in this family.
To allow your child to listen to the incessant nonsence from their father in a jail atmosphere, while you are acknowledging the horrid impact it has had on your son’s life, is beyond my comprehension.. yet she is a great mom??
Tommy can’t get out of his jail bed for a shave…… I honestly have never heard of such lazy people in my life.
So Lindsey is not “looking for the camera’s” per the experts, obviously I have followed this case way too long, because I know there are several links I can post of her and mama Croslin on the “news” channels. And if no one thinks her “speech analysis” is not a bit narcisstic, it is only my opinion, then again, IMO, I don’t perceive her as mother of the year….. but she is interested in knowing if the other guys in jail think she is “hot”…..oh man, if just one of them had any sense of reality… it might just be a new day for HaLeigh to be put to rest.. I wish there were something to be done to help the other children…. and quite frankly, I can not comprehend why no action by the state has been taken to protect these children. IMHO
JillF said,in May 3rd, 2010 at 10:30 pm Wow – why is that even entering her mind right now? I guess she is just young, etc… Those poor kids. People keep commenting about how Lindsay is losing patience with Tommy, I don’t see it. I wonder what prompted her to finally file for divorce.
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she filed to change her last name to avoid scrutiny by potential employers or
to collect welfare as a single mother.
Classic!
Tommy:
If my parents are on drugs they need to be staying away from me when I get out.
Next sentence:
They need to be sending me money.
These people really are some of the dimmest I have ever heard or seen. I am amazed daily they haven`t been gravely injured crossing the road… or performing a more difficult task, like putting on their pants.
Jnet… I’ve stated several times that I didn’t believe her “goodness”. I don’t trust any of them.
Lots of blah blah blah… seems odd to me some of the conversations they have.. almost like they are trying so hard to talk about everything else “except” the case on the drugs or Haleigh.
I do not think she knows anything, but I do think she WANTS to believe in her husband.
Why are Hank Sr. and Lisa paying the dope boy still? Makes ya wonder how much they were in debt to the dealers.
Well at least it clears up why they told Lindsey to have them stay away from the kids are they would be taken from her.
That is all I found interesting. The picture of their little boy is sad, but walk into any jail at visiting hours and they are filled with children just like him. Little fellow is one of many.
Pinky, roflmao!!!
Simon or Jan – do they realease tapes continually under the sunshine law? And how often do they do it? Does the press have to specifically ask for these tapes or do they just toss them out there at will?
I feel so sorry for these kids,from the sounds of these audios,these kids have never had a normal life.And their life is never going to change,even if Tommy is in jail.
Hank Sr. sounds lit up like an x-mas tree in tape #2. I thought it was me at first, but even Tommy had to ask him: What did you just say? Load of marbles in his mouth or something.
Was it one of these tapes where Tommy actually had the gall to say “I know where I am going when I die! I’m going to HEAVEN!” Clearly Tommy is delusional.
And those poor children being subjected not only to their family in jail, but also having to listen to these discussions. Very, very sad. 🙁
Tommy knows he’s going to Heaven and Lindsey doesn’t know what Revelation is all about. What a pair. I’m another that doesn’t buy that Lindsey is a good girl. Letting a 5 year old play grand theft auto without knowing it’s a bad adult video game and allowing him to get up by himself is not being an attentive mom. I think they’re all addle brained people who mooch off each other and their families AKA enablers.
He seems to know about prisons. He also seems to not understand that he is in some deep trouble. She is a complete idiot. This family is so screwed up it is unreal. Could Tommy use the F word more?
Sorry, just 2:30 a.m. rambling.
Tommy and Lyndsy can get along on some tapes, then the anger starts up. Whatever happened on the LDT and what ToC told LE really cooked Lyndsy, and the fact that he didn’t tell her the truth. He even kept it hidden from her that he took the LDT. I think ToC is facing alot of yrs.
Lindsy is divorcing because she is having a hard time doing without sex. The “clue” for me was the personal piercing she wants. The location upon which it will sit is uppermost in her mind right now. Then the “going out with friend(s)”….ummm hmmm
Meanwhile the friend is telling her, “He’s not comming back, you can do better, that guy over there is checking you out, you”re still hot for a mother of 3…etc..etc..etc.”
I think Lindsy is one of those people who feels that to sleep with or have sex with someone prior to the divorce would be wrong….many would also agree. I, however, would feel that since ToC threw away their life together, any hope of a future, their marriage as a whole, her, & the kids, that he REALLY asked for the divorce and his incareration is the 1st step in the divorce….it’s over, move on. JMO though.
SOmeone asked earlier about seperation laws in FL…
There are none…A husband and wife can decide on Sunday to meet at the courthouse on Monmday, fill out the paperwork, have it all notarized while there, file it and begin legitimate divorce proceedings that same day.
One must be a FL citizen for at least 6 months and the 2 parties must agree or one has to be incarcerrated (LOL). WHen children are involved the divorce of husband and wife easily determined, the child custody and/or support issue may take more time to complete…but not if one is in jail or both agree to terms.
It’s a no fault state, the court doesn’t even WANT to know what exactly happened. No compromising pictures brought to court, nonoe of that. It’s just
Judge TO Husband: Are you sure it’s irreconsilable? Yes.
Judge to Wife: Are you sure as well? Yes…
Judge to both: IS the wife pregnant or do you have reason to believe she might be pregnant at this time?
BOth: No (or if yes then the new baby will be handled within the custody end of the divorce, medical expenses, etc. It is likely though that the judge will not grant the divorce until the child is born unless DV or some other important reason to allow it)
Judge: I here by grant the divorce
I’ve know several people who’ve done this exact senario…1 day.
There are an equal number of females who have filed while their husband is in jail. For those who know others who have dealt with an incarcerrated spouse (male or female), it’s pretty well known that if you file while they are locked up, you get the entirety of what you are asking for, no vivitation ordered and would have to be fought for by the incarcerrated spouse should he/she ever be free, any marital assest (if any many times by the time they are finally caught the family has nothing).
We’ll know a lot more about her reasons if she changes her name back to Maiden, if she requests the children to be able to do the same so they will match (it happens),…the court may grant it due to the high publicity of their father/family in a murder case puts them into jeopardy. Some sicko might take one of them to make Tommy talk…or get even for Haleigh…who knows…we all have found out that those types rarely make sense in their actions.
I’m wondering if Lindsy has ever even considered that last senario I posted? Has she thought for 1 second about the danger she is opening the door to by him and his face are being seen by people the world over? Not just his still picture either. It’s often video…his speech, his mannerisms, …not to mention him hearing everything that is being said OMG! Seeing daddy in jail? I hope she’s talling him that if you do bad things you go there like daddy and not…daddy’s been framed, set-up, mistake, lie, whatever.
It’s odd, Tommy seems so sure he will be leaving prison in May hopefully. Knowing what we know now, possibly not, but he acts like an innocent person in the tapes. There is still bad blood between him and Ron, and I feel there is something to that. I’m not even going to venture a guess right now. It’s all so messed up.
What is interesting now is that in the 1st call here he still maintains that Misty’s “story” is a lie….he and Lindsy talk about how Misty’s story changes anyway…Tommy says she’s only making herself look bad.
Talk about Lindsy’s not doing what she wants to do cause he’s not out..there’s no reason to “do it” till he gets home…Wait till he gets out.
Lindsy says : But I want it!
Tommy: Don’t do it there’s no reason to do it till I get out.
Talk of tattoos and jail tats….Tommy says he doesn’t want to get one in jail…too much risk…SHe agrees talks about AIDS…tattoo shop only. Tommy says he’ll get her name put on his neck…and Layla put on him too…He asks Lindsy “What about putting my name on you?”
Lindsy: The other thing is gonna cost me $60.00 (and she would be going to someone’s home to have it done.)Piercers will make housecalls for a lower rate and privacy issues where gential piercings are concerned.
Tommy: YOu haven’t talked to Steven Brown?
Lindsy: No but I’m gonna call him…
TOmmy: If they’re gonna do that they need to hurry up and get it done. You tell em man, they need to get that sh*t going…It ain;t gonna help my case none but if they want me to do it, I’ll do it.
Talk about swimming
Tommy: Don’t go by yourself…Make Jay go with ya, Jay won’t let nobody F with ya. (Flagler Beach)
Hoping to be out by May at least….
“I’ve always be a pretty good dad…”
Lindsy: YOu;ve been a good dad, a good husband.
I’ll show you when you get home.
YOu better quit girl, sh*t…I wish I was there with you right now.
Mom & Dad paying the dope boy all that money, they need to give me some money.
Parents can’t come around if they are on dope…used it before to get them off of it.
Still gonna have to get me a bottle of liquor though…SHoot!
I’ll be in my robe when I come pick you up
Make sure if you go to the dude’s house that you don’t do it, I mean it…I don’t want nobody messin with you while I’m not there. You better get my name put on you..Tommy…where everyone can see it.
(She did it too! The tattoo anyway…)
Tommy had been using pills for 2 yrs…pot only before then.
Lindsy tells him he’s done Coke
Tommy: Well, I ain’t bought any..if it was offered to me I might have done a line but it was never really my thing…Just those d@mn pills.
Tommy’s lawyer, Werner still hadn’t recieved his video from drug sale that his charge is based on.
Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Tommy just told Lindsy that knowing he has a wife & kids to come home to is all that’s keeping him alive. Otherwise he would have already “ended this sh*t”. Now we know Lindsy filed for divorce and is planning to move away asap….wow.
Lindsy: There ain’t nobody out there better then you…Good sex, good times…(Peter, I think I know what is most important in that statement)
Lindsy dreams about chocolate…same neurological receptor as orgasm….fake O…
Lisa will go to court the end of “this month” for arrainment. If she doesn’t get jail time, she can visit again.
Disclaims B & Es
Lindsy replies with “I’m having a sugar withdrawl” (Chocolate reference, sugar as in kiss, impotent sexual desires, JMO)
Talks a bout Lindsy hating Misty and Tommy says he hates no one. Lindsy replies that she knows but it’s hard since all the trouble Misty has caused. She knows the drug issue isn’t her fault.
Tommy: Iknow but all people get what they deserve in the end though..Everybody’s got their day of judgement”
Lindsy: I love you…
Tommy: I know where I’m going when I die too, I’m going to Heaven
Lindsy: Me too I hope
I love yous exchanged
Dad call
TOmmy: Don’t worry about me
Sr: Domestic violence…I’m gonna give you a black eye and a busted lip..
TOmmy: Mom come see us after her courtdate?
SR: That’s a lie anyway
Tommy: I know she doesn’t need to plead out on that one.
Talks about blind neighbor never wanted to press charges. Man is mad he still hasn’t gotten his gun back. He said he would testify for them that he was pressured into pressing charges to get information on Haleigh
Tommy: Tell mom not to send me letters Misty writes anymore. I can’t get them and I have to pay for them.
Talks about Sr’s previous boss allowing employees to use other’s pee to pas s drug tests…Oh My…Wreck drunk Driver = Richard Keiser. Sr’s lawyer helped him out, records helped prove drs did communicate.
Lindsy even got closer to us since…
Yes Tommy…not changing the oil for a long time will “mess up” your motor…
sudden ending….after talking about NG comment about tax payers paying for her lawyer. Sr says: Tax payers aren’t paying for her lawyer, if anybody is it’s her lawyer…he’s losing money on this thing.”
Sr, sorry but when Fields applied to be her Public Defender and it was accepted by the court….he is now being paid by ….FL tax payers..especially Putnam COutny taxpayers.
What a difference between these two visits and the next one….:O
Are they really talking about growing pot and visiting the ‘little amsterdam area’ of California? Well, we see what kind of people these places can attract.
And why do people with no money, spend what little money they do have on tattoos???
HollysGmom said,
in May 4th, 2010 at 9:32 am
What a difference between these two visits and the next one….:O
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Yes, in these visits they only said I LOVE YOU approximately 89 times, as soon as there was a lull in the conversation.
I realize it is a jail visit… but GEEZ!
It’s a crutch.
I love you. love you. love you woman. love you too. no, i love you more. pinky swear? oh yes i do! coo coo coo
I think they say it as a filler and because they know of nothing else to say. Remember, Tommy was usually around the house being high all day to the point that Lyndsy’s friends would not even come over. Im sure there was no conversation then either. She was so busy with the kids and all. Tommy is in a semi-coma at best. I truly think he says it to control her and to remind her that he depends on her and needs her for a crutch. She says it because he will get pissed if she doesn’t give him the reassurance he is seeking. He obviously has some thought disorder going on. She is just satisfying his insecurity so that she doesn’t have to deal with his behavior. She is very co-dependent. I hope she gets away from him and gets some help for herself and those kids.
The reality of it is, Lindsey is running out of cash and she would be eligible for more benefits as a single mother of 3. Only time will tell if her filing for divorce is a true break from this bunch. LE would surely release those tapes ASAP to put her in a negative light with the public and everyone else that has been helping her out, if that’s true.
These tapes are very disturbing. Thought Lindsy was half-decent and a family-oriented person.
What about those children – doesn’t anyone care about the children? What do they have to eat? What is their schedule? Could they not use $60 for books, lessons, something that would help take them?
Tommy doesn’t even listen to anything Lindsy says – he just doesn’t care about anyone but himself. She is an enabler – that pathetic giggle – Lord girl, you have three children to bring up and, no, this man is not a good father, nor a good husband — but are you are good mother? I don’t think so anymore.
Where is Children Protective Services and why don’t they take these children and place them in homes where they might have a chance at some kind of a life?
Ann
I think Chelsea and Timmy will help her out. I think they may all want out of that swamp area. People obviously take advantage of Hank and Lisa and probably blame them for their kids behavior. No telling what could happen around there now.
Donald Sapp gets a proverbial slap on the wrist..
2010-04-29 32 SCORESHEET FILED
2010-04-29 33 TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY BILL BOOKHAMMER
2010-04-29 33 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLED NOLO TO THE LESSER OF
2010-04-29 33 FELONY BATTERY
2010-04-29 33 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE
2010-04-29 33 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING –
2010-04-29 33 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED GUILTY
2010-04-29 33 261 DAYS PCJ WITH 261 DAYS CREDIT
2010-04-29 33 PROBATION UNTIL 08/09/2014
2010-04-29 33 $395 COURT COSTS
2010-04-29 33 $50 PUBLIC DEFENDER APPLICATION FEE
2010-04-29 33 $1.00 TO FIRST STEP, INC
2010-04-29 33 $20 TO THE CRIME STOPPERS TRUST FUND
2010-04-29 33 $100 PUBLIC DEFENDER ATTORNEY FEE
2010-04-29 33 $100 COST OF PROSECUTION
2010-04-29 33 COST OF SUPERVISION SET AT $10 PER MONTH
2010-04-29 33 $151 TO THE RAPE CRISIS TRUST FUND
2010-04-29 33 NO CONTACT WITH ANGELA CRIBBS AND K.S. – DIRECT,
2010-04-29 33 INDIRECT OR THIRD PARTY
2010-04-29 33 NOT TO TRESPASS AT ANY PROPERTY WHERE ANGELA CRIBBS
2010-04-29 33 RESIDES
2010-04-29 34 FINGERPRINTS OF DEFENDANT
same judge as Hope’s..I guess he must like pedophiles.
So no wonder there are so many frickin pedophiles,they can just walk to do it over and over again.How disgusting!
It’s more than disgusting winter..I’m at a loss for words. When he re-offends again, and we know he will, I hope someone sues LaRue and hope someone just puts a bullet in Sapp.
What the Hell Sad what about the kid that missing sorry people
Who is Donald Sapp?
Ann
It is disgusting Winter. Can you believe what he was CONVICTED of, and he is now out walking FREE on PROBATION?!?!?! I am HORRIFIED! What a mockery of the judicial system. Jeez.
No wonder poor HaLeigh had all those RSOs living around her. Un-freakin-real. I’d say I’m at a loss for words, but truthfully, I have lots of words, but none that I am free to use without being banned. Therefore, I am at a loss of words that I can use to express my total and utter disgust.
I cannot believe Judge LaRue accepted that plea bargain.
ann said,
in May 4th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Ann,
You can read about Sapp’s charges by going here:
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php
and typing in Sapp%
His arrest is the one dated 8-11-2009 (It tells you his charges, etc).. DISGUSTING!
I mean, who is Tommy trying to convince, with this whole, poor me, everyone on earth is to blame but me..they made me take drugs, misty brought me into all this..When I get out of here, I am never going to take drugs again, and I am going to live right and be the perfect husband…yeah right. like every prisoner hasn’t said that….
I mean, who is Tommy trying to convince, with this whole, poor me, everyone on earth is to blame but me..they made me take drugs, misty brought me into all this..When I get out of here, I am never going to take drugs again, and I am going to live right and be the perfect husband…yeah right. like every prisoner hasn’t said that….
vaquera said,
in May 4th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Donald Sapp gets a proverbial slap on the wrist..
same judge as Hope’s..I guess he must like pedophiles.
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Makes you wonder doesn’t it!! What an injustice!! Yes, hell yes, he will repeat offense, perverts always do…..
Totally disgusting and repulsive!!!! WTH
She is talking about a tattoo.. In their last conversation they talked about getting a tattoos. Lindsy is innocent in this. I mean other than making bad life decisions and having 3 babies by this idiot she is just a young girl in a bad situation. She filed for divorce after he failed his polygraph which they also reference to in this video… So which means this was before 4/28, because the week after he failed the test she filed for divorce. So back of Lindsy! Thanks:)
Lindsy is not innocent in none of this. She is hibitual liar and always looks for sympathy. LE needs to put pressure on this deceiving woman. She got a divorce because her grandfather told her to get it and the onkly way she could stay in his condo in palm coast was to get it. She had a good man after Tommy and cheated on him multiple times with different men. She lets her children run the household and has no disciplining skills at all. Currently Oct 2012 she is back with the Croslins and is getting re-married to Tommy. If i was LE I would put the pressure on and solve this case by any means necessary. Its time to put ALL invovled behind bars.
Hank Croslin Sr is posting missing children and people on his facebook page. Kind of a slap in Law Enforcement face. Are you tying to tell us that Haleigh Cummings is missing when Law Enforcement made it a homocide case and not missing person. This guy is unbelievable. Instead of posting on facebook why don’t you learn how to read and write first. Go back to school so yoiu can learn how to spell. I feel sorry for grandkids. If you are there role model wow they have the same chance in life as you gave your 3 kids. We will see what kind of person you are when you are off parole and not being watch and monitored by the state. Time will tell.
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