Thanks a bunch Simon. It is much appreciated.

2nd!!
pcso is doing everything they can to trash misty, just like the NG show. They want to distract from their inept bungling of the haleigh investigation.

ojsglove, Don’t you mean 3rd?lol

Hello methinks . How have you been?

Watching her in court yesterday, I couldn’t help but notice how MC’s cheeks have filled out? HS pled no contest, which is no surprise. She was also arrested for possesion on Jan. 3rd and released w/o charges shortly before the big bust went down..hmm..

Strange how people are interested in weight changes of these folks

Their appearances show how much healthier they look when you are not always strung out on drugs. I think if anything this is a good thing for them. Healthier bodies;healthier minds. Perhaps some memory can be restored and much more clearer. JMO

lookingforjustice, I’ve been good…but very very busy. I will be moving out of the HUGE house I’ve been renting for three years into a smaller place. We will be buying it. It’s on an acre of land and the home must be gutted first (basicly) so theres alot of work to be done…and all the while, I’m babysitting my two year old grandson while my son works. So to picture it, just imagine me filling boxes with things and him empying them just as quickly! This is why I haven’t been here much. I can’t wait to get settled so I can come back daily and participate in these great conversations here! I really miss chatting with you all everyday!

I agree with you St. Johns has been forthcoming with tapes but Putnam County has not released much why? I am sure the media has asked, what was the reason they gave them for not releasing tapes or audio??? Has there been any news on whether Misty really did take the test or why she was taken somewhere? jmo

Misty cummings and go to the search bar and put in videos for this month. Its just unbelievable she even shows her address on the envelope. At least we know the girl can read.lol jmo

DustyRose said,
in April 1st, 2010 at 11:12 am

Please don’t hack the crap out of the tapes. This is what irritates me about the LE in that area. I prefer to be given all the information so I can use my own mind and by fact come to an informed decision. I don’t like any one ramming something down my throat or manipulating perceptions, it’s insulting. It suggests that I a person of the every day public does not have the right or the capability of using my own mind. It comes across as completely disrespectful, power tripping and demeaning. So please don’t hack the crap out of the tapes
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

***Hear*** ***Hear***
I love you!!!!

Crystal Rollins must fit in well with the Croslin clan. Crystal & her boyfriend even say that Misty is probably lying….and she is Misty’s bff.

I hope LE checked this nut case out. Wasnt there a sighting in Alabama? She even says Misty is probably lying and left the MH and acts like if she did its okay? Really? jmo

All I can say is I am praying for the child she has, another child who will grow up with someone who wont better themselves. Its just so sad. BA I agree she is most definitly on something. jmo

Have any of you been watching the news down there? 3 kids dead in a matter of weeks. The last one was a 14 month old left out side and was run over while he crawled into a private street in the MH park. Mom went in to use the bathroom and left him outside with a 4 and 3 year old. God why do these people have kids?
I feel for the Mom but really its hard to have sympathy anymore. jmo

http://www.youtube.com/user/crystalrollen#p/a/u/1/IoZuX3GovKI

nice find tobias, the letters are real.
Those two know Misty was set up like a bowling pin as do I.

Tobias~ that also leaves open what/where was junior? kh

nice find on the utube tobias..
No that theory doesn’t pass the common sense test..Misty would have just called him when the deed was done..no need to call 90 times.

Momentarily out of retirement….

LE redacts (cuts the crap out of) the videos so they do not compromise any ongoing (possibly Haleigh)investgations. It would be a tragedy to allow evidence to prove case get out now and then not be useable later in court of law.

Back to the beach….

Tobias I was wondering the same thing.
I could see Tobias theory working if she were told not to answer. This way it could be explained away that they were fueding and Mistty fell asleep. Ron continued to call. They could ping Rons phone at work and Mistys would not ping at any given location because it was off.jmo

Yes, I read that yesterday!

Could they be keeping his tapes from getting out because they will later be used in court?jmo bbl

I noticed 3 things watching NG last night.
YES MC cheeks were puffed out. Although them snacks are getting the best of her…..I rewound the tape of Ronald, as I have never seen his eyes look so clear. I thought he looked nice, clean & healthy.

And lastly, WTF is with Misty’s mother?? Why would she tell her daughter that Misty doesn’t have a problem with drugs. Is she really that stupid??

Misty knew enough from watching TV and the CA case to know what would happen if she told LP thats why she wanted the agreement that he couldnt revoke her bond. She isnt as stupid as she sometimes appears. I think she is lying on purpose so LE gives up on trying to go after her, after this long she knows they cant convict her with anything they have. She also thinks she will only get a few years, like she says they cant keep me for long. Misty knows if they had anything she would be long gone.jmo

tobias,,I have looked and looked for the crystal rollins youtube and cant find it..Anyone know how to find it or have a link? TIA

Go to you tube type in Misty Cummings and go to recent month and there they are.jmo

Also while your there make sure and report her for her foul language and obscene jestures I did. jmo

tobias,

I Found it thanks for the heads up on this.

Here is the links for those who can’t find the video’s …

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoZuX3GovKI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGBd9BJTOnY&feature=related

All of these folks (Tommy, Misty and Ron) putting on weight IS a good thing but DOES show the amount of drug use they were involved in. They are looking healthier and HOPEFULLY they will STAY clean even when they are released. This really is a great opportunity for ALL of them to turn their lives around. I pray they take advantage of it. Misty can get her GED, get clean and maybe, JUST maybe when she is released she can turn her life around. I hope ALL of them do.

Now, the weight gain on Casey Maggot Anthony is just plain funny since she thinks she’s Gawd’s gift to mankind and Ms. Hot Body Universe! I LOVE to see her gain weight! LOL I hope they roll her into the courtroom for trial like the Oompa Loompa’s did with the blueberry girl in Willy Wonka! Hee Hee Hee 👿

I’m all alone aren’t I dang it! Someone better talk to me soon or I’m going to run naked through the room, eat all the chocolates and go pee on m2c’s hammock! LMAO

Everyone must be with TJ at the beach. I am doing laundry today and hanging out sheets and curtains. I have laundry soap. lol

tobias…good thing you stopped by…I was about to get in hot water with m2c for peeing on her hammock and eating all her chocolates! LOL

tobias…I agree about Timmy. I wish he’d stay out of Florida and move on with his life. But I fear that one by one all of the family (and their issues) will make their way to Massachusettes and start a whole new chapter of illegal activity there dragging Timmy and his family down with them. It is a vicious cycle with these people.

Do you remember Hank and Tommys conversation where Hank said he always thought Tommy would be the one who would make it? From what I see Hank doesnt really acknowledge Timmy ever and this makes me wonder if there is some bad feelings there. Is it just me? And they say I love you but never Thank you, not once.jmo

hey ya’ll, I still can’t get to the crystal roolins vdeo…can someone walk a dummy through the door? I have literally been trying for an hour and kept getting sidetracked with other vids. HELP

Me thnks, go to you tube type in Misty Cummings then go to the search options and chose month and it pops right up on top. Also remember to report it for obscene jestures. jmo

TJ Hart said,in April 1st, 2010 at 2:37 pm Momentarily out of retirement….

LE redacts (cuts the crap out of) the videos so they do not compromise any ongoing (possibly Haleigh)investgations. It would be a tragedy to allow evidence to prove case get out now and then not be useable later in court of law.

Back to the beach
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TJ, get your azz back here. Just joking. But we all here sure to miss you.. Be well.

You guys are just too funny this evening.I enjoyed that. I love seeing everyone getting along on here.
JB, never really had the opportunity to talk to you, but you crack me up. I had tears in my eyes from laughing.
I’m gonna try and find the you tube video. Not real good with that kind of thing, but I’m gonna try.
BBL. Hopefully you will all be back then. I could use your humor 🙂

OOps, one more thing. It is 7:15 here. Are you all an hour behind me? I get confused with the time thing.

See how lazy my azz is… It should have read

@ stg said,
in April 1st, 2010 at 6:20 pm
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It was reported that Misty reverted back to Croslin. However, Tommy says she may as well face it, she’s a Cummings. (paraphrasing)

Maybe someone will direct you to that info… It won’t be me… I’m just plain ole lazy!!

Here is the link you are looking for methinks..
The top two videos are of MC bff..

http://www.youtube.com/results?uploaded=m&search_query=Misty+cummings&search_type=videos&suggested_categories=25&uni=3

Tobias, Thanks a bunch for the help in finding those letters. WHAT A DUMB BI$%@!!! this chick is a freak! Man I wanted to slap the pee outa’ her. You can tell she’s on coke, she keeps wiping her nose and interupting her friend. AND I hope child services investigates this little snipe too! GRRRRRRRRRRR

Brace yourself “methinks”.Knowing this young girl has a child of her own really give me the chills. I believe this young girls needs the ministry to be checking in on her. Is there parenting classes available for these young girls? I am not sure of how involved the ministry is with young drug addicted parents but they seem to have a real problem in some states. I am tired of seeing young children going missing and being abused daily.

Thanks for the info J 🙂

Well, look who’s here.
Good to see you Simon. See, everyone’s behaving. Lol, it’s still early.
Just kidding guys.

BAC,
Could you imagine the amount of stress her Mother must be feeling? There were pauses during the call where I could just imagine her Mother wondering to herself what the heck HS was going to say next. The fact that her Mother had wanted HS to call her just to be sure that Hope understood what was going on at all was very telling.
So sad.

It seemed telling that HS’s Mother had asked HS to call her as her Mother wanted to be sure that HS understood/knew what was going on with the case.
Sad.
imo

Tuff… I could only imagine her mother wringing her hands over and over again. Trying to get it to land and embed in that girl’s head.

I think Hope just may be getting screwed!!

I just listened to Hope Sykes tape, her lawyer is a worthless lazy skunk! she doesn’t even know ‘no contest’ is the same as guilty! Her attorney just fed her to the wolves..she above all was the least cupable and her attorney plead her no contest, without even telling her what the sentence would be or what charge she was pleading too? This is attorney malfeasance at least but its more like complicity with the prosecution to railroad this girl. This lady has been screwed big time, thats called RAILROADING!, if this passes for ‘justice’ in florida heaven help the not guilty.

I had gotten more of the feeling that she may very possibly have some false sense of self entitlement issues. jmvho

I thought she sounded mentally disabled. She talked like a 6 year old, and seemed to have the same sort of understanding as someone that age, imo.

I followed those links I understand what they are trying to do and I understand their perspective, they have the best of intentions at heart. What is being done to Misty by media is unfair, her family has brought a lot of their own stuff on. The Art Harris interviews, Hank Sr, Hank Jr, the mom going public all of it has been self afflicted and created a circus. I can understand some may have frustrations with Crystal because she was absent from the children’s lives, by choice. I can’t relate so I don’t understand but I don’t think she had anything to with or knowingly have anything to do with Haleigh going missing. At nineteen I was a Mother and it was never a struggle for me, I loved it everything came instinctively but I didn’t struggle with drugs. So I have no idea what that is like and I’m not going to Judge. Proper representation, suits go a long long way, a spoke person even goes further, this family needs representation! I don’t believe Misty had anything to do with what ever happened to Haleigh Cummings.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families

Dusty Rose–I think Misty does deserve some kind of spokesperson (even though I think her lawyer should be standing up for her). She has been maliciously targeted by Nancy Grace and Art Harris and several other media outlets. Its unfair and until they come out with some kind of credible evidence to link her to Haleigh`s disappearance, then they need to quit the slander. This girl is 18 years old with a 6th grade education who has lived pillar to post with no family support or role models. The lawyer might need to start with the threat of lawsuits to NG and AH and maybe they will report “real” news instead of speculation and downright lies!

robin…

I totally agree with your 11:45pm post. If she had nothing to do with Haleigh going missing and someone else is eventually charged, I hope she sues them into bankruptcy.

I am worried she may suicide if given a long jail term on these charges. Her childhood (which she is barely out of) has been awful. Lisa and Hank ought to be in jail for taking her out of school in grade 6.

Nope! Ron stated to reporters that HE himself changed the locks when they moved in….try again

All of thes girls are so young, and they are going to start out their adult lives in prison. It is such a shame. What chance will they have from here on?

I know they broke the law, but all of us fear our teenagers will make a mistake that they can’t overcome.

Misty and Hope both looked sedated in court. Misty’s eyes have looked like she was on a heavy tranquilizer in every court appearance.

Hope said Ronald said they offered him 25yrs. I guess his attorney is still trying to get him less time.

HollysGmom said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 12:53 am Nope! Ron stated to reporters that HE himself changed the locks when they moved in….try again
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Try again?????

Do you have a link to him saying that?

BTW, have you seen Haleigh again lately?

Karon Cox said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 1:07 am Hope said Ronald said they offered him 25yrs. I guess his attorney is still trying to get him less time.
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I would hope so. 25 years is ridiculous for what he’s done.

Hope’s personality sux! What a loser. Openly lying to the judge about her “employment”. Isn’t that perjury? Can we have those charges added please. This brat needs to leran a few things. Like she doesn’t get to call the shots! She’s lying about not understanding the plea. It’s to set up a improper defense issue.

The disrespect she shows her mother during the first half of the call is deplorable! I’d tell mine to think about stuff and call me back tomorrow and HANG UP! Ridiculous. Can’t people see how off these relationships are? Moms who allow their kids to cuss at them and make impossible demands without any reprimands. Not even so much as a “Hey!…Watch it!” Why are these grown chilren allowed such disregard for others, especially their family members? It’s just sickening!!!!

Per Hope’s words on call to MOM…We were right, Misty did pinch 2 pills from sale before handing them to UC. One she took, the other she handed to Ron…LOL!!!

WHen Ron was dating that stripper (rumored) was it a friend of Hopes? Somethingtells me she was.

Hope…dearie…since you don’t know, the reason you can be charged is that you FACILITATED the sale to MIsty. It was your contact, you rode with them, went inside with MIsty, FACILITATED the sale, then rejoined MIsty, ROn, & UC. You trafficked pills, whether they ever touched your skin or not. LOL!

who cares if he changed the locks..its only supposition a previous renter still had a key..

OJ’s glove said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 1:14 am who cares if he changed the locks..its only supposition a previous renter still had a key..
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Thanks OJ.

I remember him saying something about the back door locks, but not the front door, but that was a long time ago. Anyhow, someone could have bumped the lock easily enough.

I just thought it was an interesting coincidence that same RSO was photographed this week, same week of the search.

Karon Cox said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 1:12 am Me:

You can find that on the Greta Van Susteren interview with Ronald Cummings. You can just google that in.
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Thank you!

reread the previous posts cent and hopefully you won’t go “duuh huh say wha??

You are welcome, Me.

Me… How am I blaming the victim… HaLeigh is the only true victim… that I see!!

You and everyone else knows there’s a difference between having a few drinks… in a celebratory manner…. versus popping pills, smoking crack, snorting coke… In my book alcohol is NOT an illegal substance.

And as far as your blaming a rape victim comment!! Why should I even address that.

Me:
Yes, Haleigh’s scent would have been there, too. I really don’t know enough about how the dogs track, but I haven’t been too sure that someone didn’t come in another way.

Karon Cox said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 1:36 am Me:
Yes, Haleigh’s scent would have been there, too. I really don’t know enough about how the dogs track, but I haven’t been too sure that someone didn’t come in another way.
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I feel the same.

I still believe an intruder/RSO is a real possibility in this case. I think it’s possible Misty slept through it (I have slept through major things before without using drugs, alcohol etc) and/or she went out for a short while and she was gone when she returned.

This case is confusing because we don’t know all the facts. We may never know. I just wish they would find Haleigh.

Karon… I think even when it all comes to a head… there will still be many unanswered questions. We may never find out.. why!

Me:

Do you think LE has completely closed their minds about a sexual predator taking Haleigh? I figured they were keeping that possibility open.

I was wondering if Junior said something about hearing a grandfather clock chime that night. Why else would they be looking for someone who had a grandfather clock? The neighbor said he let them search, because he didn’t have anything to hide. He said he didn’t have a graandfather clock.

OJ

Yes, for some this is like a good old fashioned witch hunt. Scary stuff. This place is good though. The true lynch mobbers are in groups elsewhere for the most part.

Karon @ 2:13… I don’t think LE will allow this to go unsolved… too many eyes are watching them!

Cent:
I know LE knows more than they are telling, and you are right they want to get it solved real bad.

Me: You really wonder. They said they were looking for a gun used in another woman’s murder. There sure seems to be alot of murders for such a small place.

Cent;

I didn’t catch that, actually. I think you are right, but Hope and her mother sure were against Misty.

Karon Cox said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 2:23 am Me: You really wonder. They said they were looking for a gun used in another woman’s murder. There sure seems to be alot of murders for such a small place.
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Yep, and they are probably telling the truth about that…I can’t imagine they’d get the other family’s hopes up if it wasn’t true.

But I still can’t help but wonder…

Cent;

They probably know the judges. Hasn’t Hopes mother been in prison?

One thing I have never understood was why they ruled out Cousin Joe, so quick. I wonder if they really did? They always seem to not want to talk about him. They seem to brush that subject off too fast, somehow.

Me:

I am wondering that myself.

I think I have heard she had spent some time in prison. If she has, I know she hates to see her daughter going down the same road.

Sunday’s show may be pretty interesting. There will be lots to talk about. Did anyone hear how Hank, Sr. came out in his hearing?

Karon, I will see you later… gonna try for some sleep… only had 4 hours yesterday. Bye

Cent:

Me too have a good night. Good night Me. That’s too many Me’s to suit me.

Karon Cox said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 2:06 am Do any of you remember about the neighbor whose house was searched, and LE asked him if he had a grandfather clock? I wonder what that was all about?
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Funny you should mention that now, when it is being exposed that ALL media can and has mislead bloggers and eventually LE.
We can thank a member at WS for recording NG and her grandfather clock at the same time and posting them on the WWW.
It has been obvious to me that the media has directed this investigation and persuaded the publics opinion since day one with the inaccurate and sensationalized statements that where misquoted and represented as accurate and fact.

Just got done listening to the Hope phone call. Wow she plead no contest and didn’t even know what it meant. She says she wasn’t paying attention. Swearing on the phone like a trucker to her mother. Saying stuff like I’m not doing this or that. I will only do such. I think the judge will make that call Hope. I think she needs to be locked up for a while..until she grows up.

Hey all, I have not been blogging lately because my focus has always been on Haleigh and remains there so, with nothing new regarding Haleigh I have not had much to say.

I do want to comment on my fears that the Haleigh case may never be solved and why I feel LE may be at fault.

Much of Putnam County is rural and, for a rural area, the crime rate seems relatively high. I realize crime is everywhere, and I realize it is not possible to lock up all criminals.

However, I look at Hope’s arrest in early January on a drug offense, followed very soon after by her arrest on the trafficking charge, and I can’t help but think residents of that area know they can do whatever they want, whenever they want, with few consequences.

And there is Tommy’s statement to Timmy on the phone about all he has done in the past and nothing ever happened to him for any of it. Sounded to me like he knew LE turns a blind eye to criminal activity as a matter of routine. With that, he was free to do whatever, whenever.

Ron’s prior arrests on drug charges and other misdeeds went without consequences as well.

Daniel Snodgrass visited the Haleighbug Center and was asked to leave; he allegedly returned several times shouting obscenities and police were called. But they could not arrest him because his appearance had changed so much that LE was “not sure it was him” even though witnesses did identify him.

DS’s ankle bracelet seems to have malfunctioned at times as well, yet I have not heard he was taken in to have that checked out. Why not? If his GPS showed him at times in places other than where he actually was, how can LE say he “was nowhere near Haleigh’s house” the night she disappeared? How can they know that if his ankle monitor is possibly not working correctly? And how is it that an alleged sex offender out on bond is not recognizable to police?

There seems to be nothing that proves that Haleigh disappeared from the MH. She could have been elsewhere that night, in which case it would not matter if a RSO or suspected SO was “nowhere near” the MH.

I can only conclude at this time that it appears that LE has for a very long time left the criminals in that area free to do their deeds with few, if any, consequences. By LE, I am not referring only to police; prosecutors and courts often fail to act appropriately to keep citizens (especially children) safe.

Anyone see/hear Misty talking to Papa… over at Jax

Also excuse me but Hank,Lisa,Tommy and Misty all committed crimes. They are the ones who ruined their lives and no one else. What about all the people they stole from? Dont they count as having Tommy and Lisa ruining their lives? jmo

what happened to the other thread about Art?

Hope was a stripper? EWWW! Must have been for a low class establishment, I wonder why she thought the judge wouldnt approve? Her Mom didnt act like it was a problem. And who is this boyfriend who is in jail of Hopes? She seeemed worried about his trial.jmo

Well open court should be interesting, wonder how they are going to twist it to look like they were not doing anything wrong? JMO

Ron also says he isnt writing anyone so he must be staying quiet until he goes to court. Would be smart not to let anything slip out that could be used later,like why he was with Misty in the first place.jmo

When people get involved with drugs it rules their lives. Every action revolves around their next high, etc. So of course it’s drug related.

Kate… All I’ve seen are at Jax news.

well cw, this is the only place you will see all of the tapes instead of snippets so you should be thankful no matter when they come out. TJ said it takes a lot to convert the tapes to files that can be uploaded online and sometimes they need a little cleaning up as far as quality.

cw=windchime??

I thought your post was a waste of time, and am puzzled as to why you bothered. No one is forcing you to read or post here.

cw said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 5:14 pm windchime? hell no…try tinkerbell….lmao….
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Yep.

OK TIME OUT HERE PLS. CAN ANYONE PLEASE DIRECT ME TO THOSE AUDIO D/L? PLEASE AND THANKYOU HOPE THAT HELPS ME TO.

http://www.news4jax.com/video/23029740/index.html

THESKY973DOTCOM WSKY reporters hinting more stories in the Haleigh case may be unfolding. TJ is STILL retired from investigative reporting..health concerns.

MC says that if she doesn’t get out of jail, she’s going to quit smoking and join the church choir.

Cut Simon some slack. He’s not in Florida and has to have someone pick them up, and then has to work on them to be able to get them online. People should be thanking him for all the time and effort involved in making them available to us. People also have families and lives and this is typically a busy family weekend. Thank you Simon.

Ya! What curious said!

methinks said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 7:06 pm Ya! What curious said!
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me 2! Thank you Simon. Hope you and Jan are enjoying Easter weekend.

HGM:
The fact that Misty is saying she wished she had never met Ronald and the hint by T.J. that there will be some more stories breaking in the Haleigh case sounds interesting.

Thank you billyboy.

Thank you, Simon!

Enjoy your holiday!

We will be here waiting (anxiously) lol

We appreciate you getting the tapes for us, so thank you very much!

Waiting for a Viral Load Vid of Baby-Seal-Sykes Tantrum!!

Oh….poor Hope….:( NOT!!! LOL!

I wish I did live a little closer. Right now I could get there within 4-5 hours. No help from Armando this time?

Hey, I think I’m off on Monday too! 4 hours to St Auggie, 4 hours back, 3 hours to Miss. It’s very do-able.

HGM:
Where are you going?

News4Jax is reporting that Misty told her dad that she wished she had never met Ronald. I wonder what is going on.

Blood matches the blood they already have.

I wonder what that means? They have RC’s blood from the door.

Hollys Gmom said,in April 3rd, 2010 at 4:19 am
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When are you on? I would love to chat.

For anyone who has not heard the recordings yet, both First Coast News and News4Jax have Hope’s phone call to her mom. They have the Misty tape too but it is just a little snippet not really worth much, imo.

You have to go to More Videos and select Hope’s phone call from that list.

Texas Mommy:

Where did KP’s investigator’s find the sheet? I remember something being said about it, but noboby talked much about it.

Somebody said….I think Mr unmentionable might have talked about it at his site. I may be able to dig that info up…I’ll try.

I’m off work tonight so I’ll be online for hours…LOL! Post if you’d like to discuss…

During the discussion, a review was conducted of the initial call, searches that had been performed, evidence that had been gathered, results of laboratory analysis of the evidence and the results of various interviews by the different agencies.

Also, quite a lot of evidence was initially collected by the FDLE Crime Scene Technicians. Some has not yet been analyzed, and priorities were set for that analysis.

There are still investigative leads to be followed, evidence to be analyzed, and previous interviews to be re-conducted. The group intends to meet again in 30 days if the case has not yet been solved.

PCSD NEWS RELEASE

June 5, 2009

So these PCSD statements, to me, say that there is “evidence”. Possibly blood evidence, but not necessairly. THey DO however, have both Crystal, & Ron’s DNA, and possibly Haleigh’s through toothbrush & Hair brush samples, so they could match her DNA to a found sample if one were to be found.

Next week may be an interesting week in this case from the way things are lining up.

Misty’s Dad saying on that tape that he doesn’t believe what he is hearing. He says it doesn’t add up to him. I got the feeling he was hearing new accusations against Misty or Tommy. I really felt like they were against Misty.

I am a little afraid Misty is going to be set up, myself. I want the guilty party to be found out. We don’t know many of the facts, but I am getting an uneasy feeling about a need to find someone guilty, no matter what. I hope that is not the case.

Ran into this and had to post it since we now KNOW that MIsty & Ronald bought & sold drugs, this is relevant due to the claims made by the witness. I feel this may substantiate he claim.

Whether she wound up back at the trailer Sunday night is not known, but a parent in the carpool line Monday afternoon has told police –and The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview, that she overheard Misty griping at the wheel of the family’s blue van as she waited for Haleigh to get off the school bus, about the “bad ****” they’d bought from someone the night before (Sunday), and would never buy anything from that dealer again.

The parent who was also waiting for her children to get off the bus and asked to go nameless, told me it sounded like Misty was talking to her companions in the car about drugs they’d used the night before (Sunday). “I was pulled up right next to her window and could hear it clearly,” the woman told me, saying it was the same account she gave investigators.

But what she says she saw next truly shocked her. Haleigh emerged from the bus, all smiles, and began running to the van, where Misty was trying to control two little boys, possibly Ronald Jr and Haleigh’s cousin who is the son of her brother and sister in law, Lisa. She says she heard an obviously irritated Misty scream for Haleigh to hurry up, then slap one of the boys…

AH Posted on TruTV 06/11/2009

Absolutely ladies. I am hopefull that if a conviction of Misty is in the works, they’ve taken all this time to MAKE SURE she’s the guilty party. Even if she’s not, an impending conviction for child murder might finally loosen those lips…for real…

Hey Girls! (guys too, if you’re just reading. LOL)

Got off to a big start on that sheet issue.

I’d also like to discuss issue of possible relation of river search and Haleigh’s case. Any connections (There have been a few, even if only heresay or rumor) to that location, items they may be actually searching for, whether firearm they claim to be searching for also related?

Brian’s dreams discussion of drawings, show info, case related posts.

Hollysgmom, so that was a confirmed account of that day? I had heard that story but then I thought it was later confirmed by LE that Ron picked Haleigh up that day. It is so hard to work through this case when we don’t have some of the basic facts correctly. If I am remembering correctly, I think, Vaquera told us here on BNN where it is that LE confirmed Ron picked her up. Am I mixed up on this?

Hi BACent!!! So happy to see you here!!!
Hgmom, I will go look for that info about the sheet. brb

Treece… I remember that after some time… LE did confirm that Ron picked her up. And I thought that the other parents got the day wrong. Maybe we can find out by ID’ing who the kid in the van was… the one that Misty “smacked”!

I believe it might be TC’s son who was on cam for visits.

Sorry, I got off topic with that post. I just jumped at me for some reason…The smacking wasn’t the thought behind it, it was the drug references.

Same here!!

What do you guys think about that gap under that fence behind TC’s house????

The same fence that seperates that property from the dumpster search site?

I don’t know what to make of it. I will have to go back to look at it again. I did think that it was a good exit/entry point!

He’s great in it, as is Jude Law. There WILL be a sequel…

I can’t find the actual info about the sheet but I found an interesting comment about the sheet on another forum that was written 3/28/09 so that might help with the date. HGmom I emailed you the article.

I think it was said that the dogs would hit, even if those two bloody items had been already removed from the dumpster. But did a search/rescue dog hit on it? (the name escapes me of the dogs)… non Cadaver dog

I think they are called (SARs) which is just short for search and rescue dogs.

brb

BAcent I emailed it to you too – just so you can see what we are talking about. LOL

I know NG called the dogs cadaver dogs, and she said they know a dead body scent. She has always believed those dogs hit on those dumpsters because a dead body was there. She said they would not have hit on anything else. So I wonder if LE is giving us the straight story on that, either.

It seems TJ reported on the findings of the “bloody sheet” right here at BNN on a Radio show.

http://www.bloggernews.net/120272

March 29th 2009

So are we to believe that LE never checked for her scent in or around the dumpster? What lead LE there to begin with… anyone remember?

Treece:
Yes, the stories are already such a muddled up mess. You know, LE just needs one slip that they haven’t heard before that could take them in the right direction. The right piece to the puzzle, and it will all fall into place.

Karon, I so hope that is true and it all comes together soon. I guess my biggest fear in this case it that stays unsolved or at least hidden for many years.

I know this sounds so selfish and my heart breaks for the innocent family members but I won’t be here for another year. Not meaning to be selfish or mean but I can’t invest so much of myself for another year.

Treece;

I too know what you mean. I posted just last night on my FB that I was having a hard time facing another cruel year. This past one has been so hard.

Marc, Shaniya, Sarah, Hasanni, Adji, Haleigh, Aja, and others…

I’m still waiting for the truth for JonBenet….

I will continue to pray for the kids but I will not give them my heart life I have Haleigh. I feel like she is part mine.

Treece:

I know what you mean. I have had to scale back quite a bit on it already. I still keep my ears open, but I just can’t give up so much emotional energy, anymore. I have sworn off getting so involved in the missing children cases, anymore. They are too painful.

Karon, I am proud of you for scaling back a little and bringing more balance to your life. That is what I am going to have to do very soon. I just keep thinking one more week and we should know something……………for over a year now.

I think it is really sinking into Misty, now, that she will never get out of jail, if she doesn’t make a deal and tells all she knows.

Updated: Friday, 27 Mar 2009, 12:47 PM EDT
Published : Thursday, 26 Feb 2009, 8:08 PM EST

SATSUMA, Fla. (FOX30, Jacksonville) – Nothing was located in a dumpster that was alerted on by cadaver dogs Thursday in the search for a missing 5-year-old.

Putnam County Sheriff’s Major Gary Bowling said they had cleared a large construction dumpster located about a quarter of a mile from the home where Haleigh Cummings was last seen just over two weeks ago.

Bowling said they were ‘relieved’ that no human remains were found and added that canines would continuing searching Friday. The canine teams are a part of a non-law enforcement organization that specializes in finding human remains.

It was during one of the searches Thursday that a dog specially trained to find human remains alerted on the dumpster. Major Bowling said the dumpster had been checked before but not as thoroughly as the search conducted Thursday evening.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/022609Haleigh_Search

Treece;

You too! I will be thinking about you all & Haleigh tomorrow! (Toaday, lol)

Treece: Happy Easter. Rest well.

From a Greta VanSusteren Live report with Leslie Coursey at the scene.

LESLIE COURSEY, WAWS: That is right. Where Haleigh lived is about one-quarter of a mile down that way. Where Haleigh’s grandmother lives is maybe two tenths of a mile down this way. The fence is right here, and right on the other side of this fence is where the dumpster was located.

VAN SUSTEREN: We are told that a cadaver dog had a hit. Do you have any more information beyond that? Can you tell us what time a day it was, or had they been there before?

COURSEY: I do. About 3:00 today, three different cadaver dogs hit on the same exact dumpster. They do not know why the dogs hit on the dumpster. This area has been searched before, but this was the first time the dumpster was empty.

The emptied everything out. It took about two hours. And just a few minutes ago police came outside and said they found nothing. They found no evidence, no dead animals. They have no idea why these dogs hit on the dumpster.

VAN SUSTEREN: Have there ever been cadaver dogs at that dumpster after February 9 other than today?

COURSEY: They have had canines out here and bloodhounds, but this is the first time they have had cadaver dogs out. There was seven dogs out today. There will be 12 dogs out tomorrow.

VAN SUSTEREN: I take it the dumpster has been dumped since February 9. Is that right?

COURSEY: No. This was the first time the dumpster was emptied. The area, this lot behind me, has been searched three or four times, police say. But they had bloodhounds out.

But they never got a hit on the dumpster. They said before tonight’s there was really no reason to empty it. Tonight was the first time it was emptied.

Inside all they found was construction debris and leaves and branches, things like that.

VAN SUSTEREN: Is there anyone in that mobile home area that you know has any relationship whatsoever with Haleigh Cummings family?

COURSEY: Like I said, right where we are–I can see Ronald Cumming’s house from where I am right now. Where Haleigh lived is just about a quarter of mile down the road. So they walked past this every single day. There are a lot of relatives here in this neighborhood.

VAN SUSTEREN: The dumpster looks like a typical dumpster, at least the aerial shot that we had. Did the dogs hit in the same exact area of the dumpster?

COURSEY: Police didn’t say that. They did say just three different dogs hit on that exact same dumpster. They emptied the dumpster. They even lifted up the dumpster to make sure nothing was underneath. And, again, they found nothing.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,501724,00.html

I heard Capt. Schauland confirm it, also.

River search info:

The search is related to the murder of Karen Boehm, who was shot to death on July 22, 2007, in the parking lot of the Towers Grande condominium at 255 South Atlantic Ave. in Daytona Beach Shores, Fowler said.

“There are no arrests at this time. We are hopeful these new leads will lead us to a suspect,” he said.

Fowler said they are “not releasing anything that has been located so far.”

“I don’t anticipate that we will,” he added.

The Daytona Beach Shores DPS and the State Attorney’s homicide investigation unit developed information that led them to Putnam County in the search for evidence in the murder of Boehm. Investigators believe that key evidence may be in the St. John’s River between Palatka and East Palatka.

Fowler could not comment as to what items were being sought below the murky waters, which reach 15 to 20 feet deep in the search areas.

Divers had to battle the river’s current and near-zero visibility underwater.

“We believe that the new information in this case is credible and are optimistic that the leads we are following will assist us in finding Karen Boehm’s killer,” said Detective Karen Howard of the Daytona Beach Shores DPS.

The search drew a few curious onlookers to the park area Monday, with some asking if the dive teams were related to missing Satsuma kindergartner Haleigh Cummings.

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office and State Attorney’s Office confirmed that it was not related to the missing child.

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:27 AM EDT

http://palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/03/31/news/news01.txt

Posted: 4:52 pm EDT March 29,2010
Updated: 6:07 pm EDT March 29,2010

VOLUSIA COUNTY, Fla. — Dive teams from four different sheriff’s offices were in the St. Johns River on Monday afternoon searching for a murder weapon near the Volusia-Putnam county line.

Investigators say the search is linked to an unsolved murder case from Volusia County that’s two to three years old. And, though WFTV asked the State Attorney’s Office multiple times to give details on what cold case it’s working on, officials refused to say a word.

Divers told WFTV they had zero visibility in the dark water, saying it’s like swimming in cold coffee. They ended Monday’s search after around eight hours.

Eighteen deputy divers searched the murky the bottom of the St. Johns River. They began at 8:00am and concentrated on a section of river right under Memorial Bridge in Palatka. The divers said they were feeling the bottom with their hands for a gun that was involved in an unsolved homicide within Volusia County limits two to three years ago.

The State Attorney’s Office got a tip the weapon was thrown over the side of US-17 and requested Putnam, St. Johns, Clay and Flagler sheriff’s offices for the help. Deputies worked in the black water for hours and found nothing.

The search will continue until Wednesday.

http://www.wftv.com/news/22991707/detail.html

Ok so we know that the gun they are supposed to be searching for shoots a .45 caliber bullet. Is a .45 hand gun the only gun to do so?

I will have to ask my husband, but I would think so.

I believe they heard on the scanner that the search would resume on Monday.

same link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrQ9YGuJiKE&feature=player_embedded

Welatka resident has beliefs that Haleigh might have been put inside a crab trap and thrown into the middle of the St Johns River.
He states he has relayed this info to Cobra & LE.

I was sceptical but they claim DNA on her of his, plus his own admission prior to the DNA analysis comming back seems to indicate it was him. He may have had an accomplise though….

I am crashing for tonight. I am afraid I am out of anything new on Haleigh’s case, for now. Until something breaks, I don’t know what to believe, anymore. Maybe, we will hear something new, this week. I wish they would turn up some kind of evidence in this underwater search that they are doing. Thanks HGM for all you are digging up for us.

If you hear anything different in Somer’s case, will you let me know? I would appreciate it.

I hope in Haleigh’s case it doesn’t come down to which family is the most influential in their town.

According to Chelsea Croslin, Misty describes how her brother, Tommy, also behind bars on drug charges, and a cousin, Joe (Overstreet), dropped by the trailer to steal a gun we’ve since learned was a prized assault rifle that Ronald Cummings had been bragging about – and even showed off — over beers at his trailer with Joe and Tommy.
According to her letter, Chelsea said Misty wrote that when Tommy and Joe arrived, “Misty told them she didn’t know Ronald had apparently taken the gun from his usual hiding place. So when they got there, and couldn’t find the gun, Tommy said, ‘I’m going home,’ and left, and then Joe got mad, grabbed Haleigh and took off.”

You know who…LOL

BRANDON BEARDSLEY, ATTORNEY FOR RONALD CUMMINGS: Yes, sir.

BROOKS: Does he, in fact, have a weapon in his house?

BEARDSLEY: He does not have an assault rifle. That is just — that statement is absolutely ludicrous. You know? No. He does not have an assault rifle. Does he have a pistol, I believe he does. I don`t know. I`ve never searched his house. But I know he didn`t have an assault rifle.

Baretta Mini Cougar .45

This would be small, like the one CJ alleged Ron had during RR2

I wonder what kind of gun CJ has? He admitted having one since he asked the 911 operator if it was okay for him to kill Ron during the RR incident.
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You know some mornings I read the posts from the night before and it’s like watching someone using factory-made patches to try to stitch a quilt together. And I just hate to tell them that there isn’t any thread in the machine.
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treece said,
in April 4th, 2010 at 12:04 am

Hollysgmom, so that was a confirmed account of that day? I had heard that story but then I thought it was later confirmed by LE that Ron picked Haleigh up that day. It is so hard to work through this case when we don’t have some of the basic facts correctly. If I am remembering correctly, I think, Vaquera told us here on BNN where it is that LE confirmed Ron picked her up. Am I mixed up on this?
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You’re right, Capt Schauland confirmed on HLN that Ron picked up Haleigh, this was March a year ago. Many of us heard it, TJ confirmed as he was on same show, and I read the transcript that HLN sent someone.

Happy Easter – I just read through the night’s discussions. I remember reading so much about Misty picking Haleigh up that day…including the ugly details about her hitting a young boy in the car and talking loudly about “bad drugs” she had, etc… Was that another day? I thought I read that there were multiple witnesses. I will go back and check. It is hard to trust “LE confirmed” because there are so many stories out there! Thanks.

Ok – thanks Vaquera! I also read that TN picked her up but maybe that was another mis-statement.

Jill we have had so many conflicting stories on this entire case it is hard for any of us to keep what few facts we have straight.

Karen, I completely agree. Ever since that story of the gun arguement was brought out and how the gun ws found, I was suspisious

Forgot… if you’ve seen it… direct me to it… please!! Thanks

Where is CathyJo???? Gawd, I miss her!!!!

Pink Methinks Panther~~~ of course I miss you!!

The gun that is being looked for at the Memorial Bridge search site…..They are looking for a .45 caliber gun and since several of us had been wondering if this gun might be Haleigh related somewhere down the line (It’s been missing since 2007) I was looking to see if anyone surrounding Haleigh had a .45 caliber gun.

Well, it looks like there was at least 1 person with a gun like that. TC stole an antique .45 from the blind neighbor. So was there anyone else who owned a .45? Ron ownes/owns a Baretta, which various models shoot .45 caliber bullets. Proven Fact….Is this bridge .45 the same? Probably not, but just thought we could look to see. Why is it such a problem? I posted various items found online, some may not have come through moderation. Before you criticize, maybe you should really search it out.

If you don’t care which side may ultimately be involved and you only care about getting to the truth….why is it such a problem for ANY link to beresearched? Why is it only a problem if it relates to Ronald Cummings? I just don’t get that….Before you give a pat answer, maybe just mull it over a bit….honestly ask yourself why?

About the CJ RR2 post, I said ALLEGEDLY!!!!

Forgive me but I was looking on At Harris’ site about the “alleged” failed polygragh of Misty’s and came upon this comment that someone made. I just wonder if the police ever investigated this claim:

J. Smith Says:
March 31st, 2010 at 11:35 pm
At Spinners last night, I met I man who lives in Hermit’s Cove. He told me that a older linclon either silver or white
with a blue half vinyl top past his house late that night. He had never seen it before or since. He is convinced if you find the car you will find the girl. He said the police
never took him serious.

Forgive me for being on Art Harris’ site hoping to find “credible” information.(LOL). I always read the comments in section on any article I read (if they have one). You never know what you will find that might lead to locating Haleigh.

I was just wondering if anyone that has been investigated in this case, an RSO or SO, has been known to drive this type of car.

I think it would be hard to find a car with that general description, but if a suspect could be found, then maybe they could trace the types of vehicles they have owned (which would be up to LE, since they have access to motor vehicles records). I was just wondering if this car might have rang a bell with anyone posting here.

Robin, it has (not me btw). We will be looking into it. Possible CS connection? Maybe…

Hollys Gmom said,
in April 4th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

So…

TM says Ron has an assault rifle,
Cobra said he owned one
Misty claims he had one that TC & JO wanted to steal

But Ron says he doesn’t…so by God he doesn’t? We’ll see….
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Ron’s old neighbor told me what kind of rifle it was and it was a deer rifle. Any rifle, unless it’s single shot, could be considered an assault rifle because they all are semi automatics.

Nov 2007 Ron got cited for shooting a deer with a modern rifle because it was black powder season.

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

Vaquera;

I know what LE has stated about that search. What we were talking about was the fact that this same LE has mislead us about search(es) in the past and could it be true this time also.

YOu have to admit, there has been a lot of issues surrounding guns in this case. Now that LE is searching for a gun under the same bridge that Ronald ALLEGEDLY said he’s hide something, is it too much to just look around to see if it MIGHT be possible that they are related.
Not that Ron killed the Voluisa citizen, just that maybe he had bought a used gun then someone got rid of it there. Not necessarily RON. Is it really a problem for people to question that?

ALso there was a link I provided that proved that a 9mm Baretta could also fire a .45 caliber bullet.

If I was seeing dots like that I’d go to the eye doctor.

In other words, cent, I’m not going to shut up about it. I strongly object to it! And I’d like to throw rotten tomatoes at those responsible for it (figuratively speaking of course). 🙂

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m2c♥ said,
in April 5th, 2010 at 4:20 am

In other words, cent, I’m not going to shut up about it.
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I can’t say that I see anyone here…. waiting/thinking that you’ll ever do that!

This should be a interesting day Casey goes to court and new jailhouse tapes released on Misty and Ron…

Has anyone been keeping up with the Kayleah Wilson case?
I found her myspace and there was something on there that was very interesting . She posted something Feb 23rd from her mobile.”Wishing someone would leave me alone. Stop telling my friends things to tell me just leave me alone you stalker freak.!!!
Mood: PISSED OFF PISSED OFF ”

I wonder if the cops have pinged her phone?

Wonder who she was talking about stalking her. It says it was posted from mobile maybe she was using a friends cell.

I have not heard anything on the new videos. I went and checked out Channel 4 news in Jacksonville, but nothing. I hope everyone had a nice Easter. God Bless the missing!

Mornin’ JB 🙂

I’m only here for an hour; beautiful day here and I am going out to enjoy it as soon as I finish laundry.

*Prayers for Haleigh*

I can go right now a find all the articles from the first week and can show everyone where the lies began and who started them. In the begining who was doing all the interviews? Who was speaking to known corrupt reporters and even had them in their pockets?

Hello Tex….so what are you talking about? You lost me! Are you continuing from prior posts? Do I need to go up and read older posts?

Cathartic…what lies? What are we talking about? I guess I need to read prior posts, huh? I’m lost! LOL

I am just aggravated that we are arguing about this BS. We all know that the news tells us what everyone involved wants us to hear. Thats why they call it interviews. When the news reports things 90% is left out of the story… we get the sensationalized high lights, not the whole truth based on facts.
We should be looking at the facts that where revealed in the first 24 hours.

Has anyone heard anything about when the new jailhouse tapes will be released?

OT, but Kayleah on her myspace claims to be 36 yo?

KY Mom – the new tapes are released….I think Simon is working on getting copies. We no longer have TJ to get them for us so Simon has to find someone else to pick up the copies.

Everyone wants to exclude sources, but,, IMO we should be looking at all, not for answers, but, for a clear over all picture of the events, people and circumstancesthat are revealed in these questionable sources. NO stone(written word) left unturned, should be our moto. In our position we do not have the clear picture and facts that has been needed to come to a logical conclusion as LE likes to say. What we do have is words and actions of many since this crime was commited.
Statics, LE actions and the behaviors of HaLeighs family are the cause for our confusion, IMO.
No forced entry = No stranger abduction.
No body found near by = all searches called off.

Dangit I need to run and pick up a kid(23) WILL BE RIGHT BACK TO FINISH MY POINT.LOL

We have few facts. No way would I say no forced entry means no stranger abduction. I am not even sure LE came to that conclusion just based on no force entry.

Everyone involved has not been totally honest, imo. People have things they want to hide, not just in this case, but people in general. It’s easy to sit here and say everyone should have been totally honest, because most of us have info about ourselves and loved ones we want to protect, and if we feel certain info about ourselves is not pertinent, we would protect that info.

However, a child is missing, and there are behaviors exhibited by all in her life that raise eyebrows at the very least.

There have been many lies. There has been much info withheld, and there has been much misleading reporting. None of it will help find Haleigh.

Sad but true.

JB… I hear ya! I’ll never understand why a fight HAS to be a brewing! I didn’t see one, but that is just me.

JB

Thanks. I wished someone would go get them.
Is it suppose to be Ron’s calls too?.

Did anyone read the article by Levi P talking about TN’s possible involvement in Haleigh’s disappearance? Any thoughts?

Cathartic… I agree…while I occassionally run quite passionately with a theory, my list of theories remains long. Sometimes a new statement or behavior by one of the key players makes me favor one theory over another….I’m still open to just about anything because so little info is known as fact. All I know is Ron and Misty’s behavior is suspect to me…especially Misty. Nothing about Crystal makes sense to me because I’m a mother and NOTHING about that woman seems normal or maternal. All of the Croslins seem to prefer the “low road” to the “high road” and while small time, are still a criminal clan destined to do time behind bars. Crystal’s family is bizarre at best and VERY creepy. There are so many RSO’s in the area that I can’t write that off as a possibility either. Cuz Joe is very much on my radar as well. The van thing and his past history with Misty still keep that theory high on my list.

I can’t rule anything out or anything in at this point. Too little to go on. But sadly the majority of my theories lead to Haleigh no longer being with us. 😥

KY Mom – Ron is in a different facility so I believe the only ones being released are for Misty and Tommy. The facility Ron is at hasn’t released anything new since the beginning. Maybe they couldn’t stomach hearing anymore about Ron’s dirty boxer shorts either! 😆

Could someone please tell me where to go to read the Levi Article on the possible involvement of TN?

You can Google for many such articles, lfj. And not just about TN, about any of them. All are just opinions, of course. They are based on weird behaviors, and they all have exhibited that.

I think we need to accept that what they sometimes do or say is normal behavior for them. We see it as abnormal (and some of it clearly is abnormal) but a lot of it is just how they live and have always lived. And much of it is taken out of context, as well.

I want facts. And we rarely seem to get that.
Tapes are redacted (necessary, I am sure) but doing that DOES tend to put things out of context to the point where even an innocent statement can be misinterpreted, imo.

I’m not saying for sure that this is how Haleigh died. Some have argued, including TN, that Haleigh would not have taken Oxy because it would have tasted bitter. However, according to actual events that took place in the article below, it is possible:

“PITTSBURGH
A Burgettstown mother and her Oakdale friend are facing charges in connection with the drug-related death of the woman’s 16-month-old girl, who apparently took an Oxycodone pill after waking up from a nap. WXAE”

If you read more in the article it explains that the child stopped breathing.

I also heard part of the new tapes. Hank is getting down on Misty about not getting into certain criminal actions, but that she didn’t listen and did things her own way. He went on to say there was no use crying over spilled milk. She began to cry. Then her and her dad blame whoever took Haleigh for ruining their lives. Which is ridiculous, because it’s the on-video drug sales that have her in jail.

I think I was trying to say, I am making it!

Timed-release tablets are more dangerous because they do not have a taste and also because the effects are not immediate, so a person might not be aware when a child swallowed a pill. There might be no symptoms for hours, then the child might suddenly go into cardiac arrest.

That’s what happened to a two-year-old in an article I read recently. The mom was then able to pinpoint when the child may have ingested the pill to four hours earlier, when the mom had turned away just for a minute to answer a knock at the door.

Five-year-olds might not purposely swallow pills as readily as two-year-olds, but it does happen. I kept all meds in a locked box after my daughter ate a whole bottle of aspirin at age 4. The bottle had been stored well out of her reach at the time, too.

And you have to think that Haleigh more than likely watched her daddy, Crystal and Misty take these pills. Probably has seen her uncles, aunts and grandparents take pills too. Probably heard the adults in her life talk about wanting to “score” some pills…knew these people she looked up to REALLY wanted them and seemed to enjoy taking them. It would not be far fetched to think of her trying to mimic those adults around her….whether the pill tasted nasty or not would not be the point. Heck, my older brother actually got me to take an entire box of laxative when I was little with very little prompting. LOL

I thought there was over-emphasis on the blankets, but that’s JMO.

I know that some children are too mature for putting things in their mouth at six, but some aren’t. In light of knowing Haleigh has Turner Syndrome, we know she could have been somewhat developmentally challenged, read below:

“Other Effects Turner Syndrome Can Have

A number of other health problems occur more often in girls with Turner syndrome, including kidney problems, high blood pressure….. Some girls with the condition may experience learning difficulties, particularly in math. Many have a difficult time with tasks that require skills such as map reading or visual organization.” ~kidshealth.org

I never said fight… I said argue. The topic of most conversations at the moment is over what media source is wrong or right and who is credible or not. It is again a distraction from finding HaLeigh. Since day one someone/everyone has derailed the efforts and objective and that was to find HaLeigh. How many have wanted to be considered the victim instead of HaLeigh? Start from day one and make a list and take note who is at the top.

Excuse me… argue NOT fight!!! Guess I’m out the running for credibility/accuracy!

Texas..LOL…girl, you are STILL talking in riddles and I SUCK at riddles! LOL

I don’t know what the facts are and since 99% of the info we get is from the media it is anyone’s guess what the facts are at this point. We take what we get and we do our best to make sense of it.

I just read the article at Levi’s about Teresa Neves. So does ANYONE know FOR A FACT where she lived at the time of Haleigh’s disappearance? Was it 200 miles away or 15 miles away? Big difference. I agree her showing up with the 8 X 10 pic of Haleigh, wearing the police jacket and telling LE she still works for LE if she didn’t is very suspect. But I don’t know if ANY of that is true! Did she in FACT tell LE she STILL worked for LE and she truly didn’t, did she lie about where she lived at that point and what PROOF does anyone have of what she said/did being a lie? Before I jump all over this article of Levi’s and start forming opinions that TN is involved…I would like to know it is based on fact. I’m a little gun-shy when it comes to Levi….to say the least.

Where is this article on TN?

JB,
I don’t know how much of the info in Levi’s article is true. I wish we knew more. I wish we had Cobra or TJ to ask.

So I found the article. Did Tn really give MC a family ring? It looks like that would be something that you would save for your granddaughter.
Ron behavior is also suspicious Always giving Misty a heads up (The Donna Brock thing and then telling how LE wanted him to tell Misty he loved her and so forth to get info about Haleigh .Why would he do that I don’t understand.?. Please someone explain this to me.

Romewi – I haven’t found Levi to be overly credible in the past and that is why I rarely go there to read. If this were an article on CNN I’d still want some proof but I’d be much more inclined to believe the contents of the article. I’m just considering the source and nothing personal against Levi but I WOULD like it verified what TN told LE (did she lie about where she worked and where she lived) and where she was that night that allowed her to get there so quickly. If I had that info confirmed somehow I’d be apt to believe his article and would probably result in me adding yet one more theory to my already overwhelming list of theories. But I need some proof first….It is the same with what AH writes. I want some proof because both AH and Levi tend to embelish (and I’m trying to be polite! LOL). Their article contain WAY to much opinion. If I want opinion, I come here to share them. When I read an article, I want fact..NOT opinion.

Hey Tex…toss me a scoobie snack. 😀

Texasmommy, LE said no forced entry right away. But they were still treating this as an abduction. LE did not say no stranger abduction until later.

As for your post regarding everyone wanting to derail the investigation from the beginning, I agree with that. It is difficult for us to figure out what’s what if everyone involved is doing/saying things that look suspicious.

I know ppl lie, especially when they believe the truth will get them into trouble. My biggest issue with lyinhg is the reporters saying things that are not backed up with proof, or citing their source but not naming the source of the info they are reporting. It stinks, and it certainly does not help the victim in this case–Haleigh.

Aside from the Anthony case has anyone else witnessed this type of behavior in a missing childs case?

Texas Mom

No I haven’t . Why aren’t the families out looking for her? I have not seen one person from either side search for Haleigh.. That is crazy.

KY…I’ve seen Ron cry “real tears” too but I still suspect him. TN shedding some tears doesn’t clear her IMO….they could be tears of guilt or she KNOWS Haleigh is dead (by accident or other means). So tears mean nothing to me but TN still isn’t at the top of my suspect list….at least not until someone can prove to me the info in Levi’s article. Now, if someone CAN prove that info, then she will be in my line of fire. I have so many suspects now I’d need a shotgun loaded with buckshot to hit them all! 😆

In the beginning of the Caylee case I felt sorry for Cindy. She was then just the grandmother of a missing child, and she was sincerely concerned. She is, however, a good example of what happens when family members figure what’s done is done–we can’t bring her back now, so now let’s do what we can to point suspicion elsewhere and possibly lessen the consequences. At that point it isn’t about the real victim anymore. It’s about CYA and damage control.

JMO.

I think everyone knows what happened to Haleigh including LE but they need evidence. I just can’t figure out what the strong bond is that is keeping anyone from breaking. I’d be going crazy looking for my child if missing.

beautiful*adams (cent) said,in April 5th, 2010 at 3:03 pm The strong bond would be… not wanting to do life!!
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I agree but I think other people know something and aren’t stepping up.

Romewi… I believe that too. And I hate to bring it up… but if there were NO side shows, I think some folks probably would have yapped, and we would be on another case (unfortunately)!

cathartic…I felt sorry for Cindy too…until she opened her mouth! LOL Her true feelings were expressed in the 911 call…after that it was truly CYA! You’ve got that EXACTLY right and Haleigh’s family is in the exact same mode.

KY mom – I’ve always wondered that. No one in the family really did diddly to look for Haleigh and that is very telling to me. Obviously these people are not “normal” as you and I think of normal so some of their actions, while foreign to us, may be “normal” for them. But NOTHING explains their lack of searching OR the majority of their words and actions. Their upbringing, lack of education, drug use….none of that explains the things they’ve done and said and it makes them all look very guilty.

Romewi – that could be why LE says Misty is the key. Perhaps you are right and LE does know what happened but needs Misty to confess. Maybe they see her as the weakest link in this ugly chain of criminals. And I’m with you! If my child went missing I don’t care what anyone told me I would be out checking every field, every house, every river, you name it and I would not stop until my child was found. And if I DID have an addiction such as drugs I think my child going missing would certainly be an incentive to get my act together for Pete’s sake! Not so with this bunch! They probably hung up Missing posters for Haleigh with a message at the bottom for drug sales! “MISSING – HALEIGH CUMMINGS…Oh, and if you need some Oxy’s or Roxie’s…please call Ron and Misty Cummings” SHEEESSSHHH!

b*a…you got that right! That is what I’ve said. They’ll deal with the drug charges and keep their mouth shut because that is a LOT better than facing murder charges….and THAT is enough to seal their lips for good. After all, this bunch has a long history of criminal behaviors and covering for one another….it is almost instinctual for these people to cover for each other!

Why would Misty throw Tommy under the bus but yet Tommy isn’t talking about what he knows? He must know something. Any thoughts?

WHERE ARE THE TAPES? lol

Hey KY…sorry…thought I was all alone…I’ll stop singing…and making posts to myself going on and on about my theories! LOL

I think the tapes were to be picked up today. I don’t know if Simon found someone in the area to do that task for him or not. Oh SIMONNNNNN?????

I can only wonder what Fields believes regarding Misty’s involvement with Haleigh going missing. It might be that he truly believes her, and maybe with good reason. Or, he might think she is guilty but there is no evidence to prove it. If he really believes she is innocent, I would like to see him have her questioned under sodium pentathol or something similar. I am not sure that chemical is used anymore, but it used to be used often, and quite effectively.

If Misty is innocent, would she not be all for doing this? And if Fields believes in her, would he not be in favor of it as well?

Just some rhetoricals here, since he is the only one who can really answer that.

It looks like Art would get Lindsy to pick them up for him.lol

KY – we laugh but that is probably how AH does get his tapes! LOL

One would have to wonder how good the info would be coming from a family member and what their motives might be to twist the “facts” to suit them. You would think AH would want to verify any info he gets from Lindsey but he just seems to report it as the gospel.

JB,

I totally agree with your 11:55 & 11:56 posts.

Shockwave said,in April 5th, 2010 at 1:02 pm Sometimes when people are lying they will overemphasize their answers. For example: Casey A. saying that she knows “in her gut” that Caylee is alive. Which we now know was untrue. I do not see MC overemphasizing like this in the videos I have seen. What do you guys think?

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I agree…if I had to put money on it, I’d say she doesn’t know anything (except that perhaps she left the house).

My incident was with the orange flavored too! My mother was very shaken when she discovered what I’d done…but thankfully we were all ok.

It’s one of the reasons I don’t buy this “Haleigh couldn’t reach the lock” stuff…i think it’s possible that a determined child of her age could open it if she wanted to.

I think an accidental o.d. is a possibility but it’s at the very bottom of my list. I also think there’s a real chance a SO, registered or not, did it. But the Sheffield/Griffis are still at the very top of my list.

Yep….and there were so many RSOs living close by too. I do hope LE has properly investigated all of them, but it seems they haven’t as they were basically the first ones cleared.

I don’t think Haleigh unlocked the door and went out. It could have already been open and she went out. But I doubt she planted that cinderblock so even if she could have unlocked the deadbolt, I don’t think she did that night.

I would think they are. Plus, the 2 closest RSOs to Haleigh’s home didn’t have any sort of monitors.

I agree. It’s been almost 15 months and they don’t seem to have gotten anywhere. I doubt LE will solve it…but hopefully she will surface, alive and well, some day soon.

no way can you shoot a .45 out of a 9mm gun,bullet is too fat.

http://www.restlessadventurer.net/guns/caliber.php

Nothing in this case makes sense.
Misty- she got up to go to the bathroom on the other side of the trailer and noticed the door was open? Ohhh wait no she was thirsty an and needed a drink of water and went to the kitchen and noticed to door opened. She waited for minutes to call the 911. (I guess maybe she was hurrying to get all the drugs out of the mobile home. Failed LD test. Who knows how many times.
Ron- he gets married while child has been missing for short time and gets a tattoo. Then he tells Misty what to say the Morning show. Then when Tim Miller I believe hires and undercover person to get info from Misty . Ron blows her cover. (WHY?) Then in jailhouse tapes he tells how LE wants him to tell Misty he loves her to get info from her Ron then tells his Mom and tapes that he knows are going to get released to the Media.

I’ve been following this case from the beginning thank you very much.

The police can’t make you stop searching for your child.lol

I guess you think the police did something to Haliegh?

Opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

MC2

I was typing to JB not you .lol

To reply in kind I would have to tell you which orifice I think your spewing your opinion from and maybe throw in a few descriptors that must be the reason for your attitude. So to avoid that I just won’t reply. Some people don’t even want to be open-minded or realistic. They just want to spew. Ask JB for some Depends will you so the blog doesn’t get too messy. Have a great day.

Ky Mom… didn’t you see the photos of Ronnie boy on those horses? I can say without a doubt NO ONE could keep me from searching for my child!!

Have the police ever really look at mistys family (Mother, Stepdad,etc) they seem like real creeps there was a comment on youtube between “TheCroslinFamily and one of there friends, talking like real low lifes saying they hate N*gger’s and saying “I bet N*ggers took haliegh and raped her up the butt”,….I was really disgusted and they said to a bunch of commenters on a comment board “Why dont you people get a life instead of living your life vigorously threw dead children”,..Which kinda surprised me and a Shot back saying “Dead? Hmm, Who said the little girl was dead, do you know somthing we don’t?” ,…they dont know how to type and there very uneducated, have the time i dont even know what they are saying….