It would seem that we are about to be inundated with new material from the St Johns authorities about two of the players in the Haleigh Cummings case. St Johns media contact Sgt Charles (Chuck) Mulligan sent the following email out to press organizations this morning:
We will have video footage of M. Cummings and H. Croslin available tomorrow morning. These videos span between February 17th thru March 4th. There are 4 DVD’s per set. Please respond by email if you wish to pickup the set, as we want to have the proper number of copies made without overages (one response per entity please so we are not creating several copies for your organization).   They are still $5 per DVD.   We should have some prepared for you by 9:00 a.m…
I guess it is going to be a busy weekend for the press, 8 DVD’s represents many hours of recordings.
I also believe that there is a typo in the email, it should read M. Croslin and H. Croslin, unless there has been a secret behind bars wedding. Now that would be an interesting turn of events!
It is unknown at this time if these DVD’s contain anything of interest. Even Tommy and Misty Croslin seen to have caught on to the fact that their conversations are being recorded and not quite so prone to slipping up as they were in the early tapes.
I am going to try and get a set of the DVD’s for Blogger News Network and I am working on arranging a pick-up and upload of the data.
What I do find interesting is that while the authorities seem to be happy to release tapes of Misty Croslin and Tommy Croslin they are not so open with Hope Sykes, Ronald Cummings or Donna Brock. I wonder why that is?
Speculation surfaced last week about Misty failing yet another polygraph, these jail tapes cover the period when this was ‘supposed’ to have happened. It will be interesting so see if any mention of this event is made.
Simon Barrett
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They are searching St. Johns River by the bridge. Better keep an eye on that one.
2nd!!
pcso is doing everything they can to trash misty, just like the NG show. They want to distract from their inept bungling of the haleigh investigation.
Please don’t hack the crap out of the tapes. This is what irritates me about the LE in that area. I prefer to be given all the information so I can use my own mind and by fact come to an informed decision. I don’t like any one ramming something down my throat or manipulating perceptions, it’s insulting. It suggests that I a person of the every day public does not have the right or the capability of using my own mind. It comes across as completely disrespectful, power tripping and demeaning. So please don’t hack the crap out of the tapes
ojsglove, Don’t you mean 3rd?lol
dustyrose, I agree! Let us make up our own minds as to what is important and what isn’t. You are so right to say it’s insulting.
Hello methinks . How have you been?
Simon / Jan – thank you for working so hard to get these DVD’s. I know it takes effort (and $) to get them but we DO appreciate it. I look forward to this new release!!!!!
Watching her in court yesterday, I couldn’t help but notice how MC’s cheeks have filled out? HS pled no contest, which is no surprise. She was also arrested for possesion on Jan. 3rd and released w/o charges shortly before the big bust went down..hmm..
I was on You Tube today and found a channel called TheCroslinFamily. They have some of the prank calls that were made during one of Simon and Jan’s radio shows posted on their channel. Makes me think they are the ones that made those calls! I hope Simon and Jan are able to put a stop to these people.
I too am curious about that river/bridge search.
Thanks Simon and Jan for all you do.
Strange how people are interested in weight changes of these folks
Thanks for keeping Haleigh Cummings in the news.
Their appearances show how much healthier they look when you are not always strung out on drugs. I think if anything this is a good thing for them. Healthier bodies;healthier minds. Perhaps some memory can be restored and much more clearer. JMO
SOLVECRIMES,Did you see the Crystal Rollins You tube? This is Mistys friend that went with her and Mistys then boyfriend to New Jersey.
That was 3 years prior to this, what did you think of the letters she read. Tells alot of how Misty hated Crystal and wanted the kids to love her as their Mom. Also the part about not sending any money to Lisa only to her. jmo
lookingforjustice, I’ve been good…but very very busy. I will be moving out of the HUGE house I’ve been renting for three years into a smaller place. We will be buying it. It’s on an acre of land and the home must be gutted first (basicly) so theres alot of work to be done…and all the while, I’m babysitting my two year old grandson while my son works. So to picture it, just imagine me filling boxes with things and him empying them just as quickly! This is why I haven’t been here much. I can’t wait to get settled so I can come back daily and participate in these great conversations here! I really miss chatting with you all everyday!
Methinks quite understandable. I have been busy as well. This is the first time in about a week that I have had time to converse. It is spring break here and my home is filled with teens everyday. I am sure they will want on here before too long. I am just taking advantage of the time I have right now.
I agree with you St. Johns has been forthcoming with tapes but Putnam County has not released much why? I am sure the media has asked, what was the reason they gave them for not releasing tapes or audio??? Has there been any news on whether Misty really did take the test or why she was taken somewhere? jmo
tobias said,in April 1st, 2010 at 12:25 pm SOLVECRIMES,Did you see the Crystal Rollins You tube?
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Oh, my, great find but where is it on youtube, tobias. Can you link it or post what words on youtube to put in the search box to bring it up. TIA
Misty cummings and go to the search bar and put in videos for this month. Its just unbelievable she even shows her address on the envelope. At least we know the girl can read.lol jmo
tobias said,in April 1st, 2010 at 1:05 pm Misty cummings and go to the search bar and put in videos for this month
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Thanks found ’em. 😯
DustyRose said,
in April 1st, 2010 at 11:12 am
Please don’t hack the crap out of the tapes. This is what irritates me about the LE in that area. I prefer to be given all the information so I can use my own mind and by fact come to an informed decision. I don’t like any one ramming something down my throat or manipulating perceptions, it’s insulting. It suggests that I a person of the every day public does not have the right or the capability of using my own mind. It comes across as completely disrespectful, power tripping and demeaning. So please don’t hack the crap out of the tapes
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tobias,
What is the name of the Crystal Rollins YT channel?
Crystal Rollins must fit in well with the Croslin clan. Crystal & her boyfriend even say that Misty is probably lying….and she is Misty’s bff.
Pink Methinks Panther… you forgot… you can’t go anywhere without MI5!!
I hope LE checked this nut case out. Wasnt there a sighting in Alabama? She even says Misty is probably lying and left the MH and acts like if she did its okay? Really? jmo
I watched that youtube vid of Misty’s BFF… and all I can say is she has issues!
1. Did you notice how hard she wiped her face?
2. She has crazy eyes!
3. She has a very unsettling/creepy Charlie Brown mouth!
All I can say is I am praying for the child she has, another child who will grow up with someone who wont better themselves. Its just so sad. BA I agree she is most definitly on something. jmo
Watched the Crystal Rollens videos. Nice. No hope for these people.
Have any of you been watching the news down there? 3 kids dead in a matter of weeks. The last one was a 14 month old left out side and was run over while he crawled into a private street in the MH park. Mom went in to use the bathroom and left him outside with a 4 and 3 year old. God why do these people have kids?
I feel for the Mom but really its hard to have sympathy anymore. jmo
Tobias.. yes, I just saw that about the baby, I’m very suspicious!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/crystalrollen#p/a/u/1/IoZuX3GovKI
nice find tobias, the letters are real.
Those two know Misty was set up like a bowling pin as do I.
Heres a theory Could Misty have left because Ron called and told her to go somewhere when he called at 8? And thats why he kept calling,to see when she got back and got the job done? But that still leaves open what happened to Haleigh while she was gone. jmo
Tobias~ that also leaves open what/where was junior? kh
cent, hey sista! YOU will alsways be with me!! I could never leave my favorite bloggin’ buddy!
nice find on the utube tobias..
No that theory doesn’t pass the common sense test..Misty would have just called him when the deed was done..no need to call 90 times.
I wonder what Rons lawyer meant by they are working on a plea with the state. What does he have to give them? jmo
Momentarily out of retirement….
LE redacts (cuts the crap out of) the videos so they do not compromise any ongoing (possibly Haleigh)investgations. It would be a tragedy to allow evidence to prove case get out now and then not be useable later in court of law.
Back to the beach….
Make sure to use sun screen TJ and thank you for clearing that up. Peace out and relax.
Tobias I was wondering the same thing.
I could see Tobias theory working if she were told not to answer. This way it could be explained away that they were fueding and Mistty fell asleep. Ron continued to call. They could ping Rons phone at work and Mistys would not ping at any given location because it was off.jmo
Has anyone heard about the horrible case in Trenton New Jersey? I could hardly stomach reading it. A 15 year old sold her 7 year old stepsister to a bunch of men. Whats the world coming to? jmo
Yes, I read that yesterday!
Just before he stopped reporting on Haleigh TJ mentioned that he was getting a hard tme when he requested tapes of Ronald, maybe NG can shake the secret tapes loose…
Could they be keeping his tapes from getting out because they will later be used in court?jmo bbl
MRLUCKY I doubt NG would do that since she has the opinion that Ron has nothing to do with Haleigh going missing. Not an objective approach on her part and it may come to bite her in the (rear) end.lol jmo
I noticed 3 things watching NG last night.
YES MC cheeks were puffed out. Although them snacks are getting the best of her…..I rewound the tape of Ronald, as I have never seen his eyes look so clear. I thought he looked nice, clean & healthy.
And lastly, WTF is with Misty’s mother?? Why would she tell her daughter that Misty doesn’t have a problem with drugs. Is she really that stupid??
And another thing, why doesn’t MC mother say to her when Misty states she can’t tell anyone anything from behind bars, that nobody is stupid enough to let her out unless she has information & it can be proved?
While she is in?
Misty knew enough from watching TV and the CA case to know what would happen if she told LP thats why she wanted the agreement that he couldnt revoke her bond. She isnt as stupid as she sometimes appears. I think she is lying on purpose so LE gives up on trying to go after her, after this long she knows they cant convict her with anything they have. She also thinks she will only get a few years, like she says they cant keep me for long. Misty knows if they had anything she would be long gone.jmo
tobias,,I have looked and looked for the crystal rollins youtube and cant find it..Anyone know how to find it or have a link? TIA
tobias,,I have looked and looked for the crystal rollins youtube and cant find it..Anyone know how to find it or have a link? TIA
tobias,,I have looked and looked for the crystal rollins youtube and cant find it..Anyone know how to find it or have a link? TIA
Go to you tube type in Misty Cummings and go to recent month and there they are.jmo
tobias,
Can you give me a link to the Crystal Rollins video?
Thanks
Also while your there make sure and report her for her foul language and obscene jestures I did. jmo
tobias,
Can you post a link to the Crystal Rollins video?
Thanks
tobias,
I Found it thanks for the heads up on this.
YW,Just remember to hit the report button you tube will cut her off. jmo
Here is the links for those who can’t find the video’s …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoZuX3GovKI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGBd9BJTOnY&feature=related
TJ!!!!!!!!! Good to hear from you! Best wishes! Enjoy the beach AND if it won’t stress you out too much, feel free to join us any time! We LOVE to hear from you! HUGS!
All of these folks (Tommy, Misty and Ron) putting on weight IS a good thing but DOES show the amount of drug use they were involved in. They are looking healthier and HOPEFULLY they will STAY clean even when they are released. This really is a great opportunity for ALL of them to turn their lives around. I pray they take advantage of it. Misty can get her GED, get clean and maybe, JUST maybe when she is released she can turn her life around. I hope ALL of them do.
Now, the weight gain on Casey Maggot Anthony is just plain funny since she thinks she’s Gawd’s gift to mankind and Ms. Hot Body Universe! I LOVE to see her gain weight! LOL I hope they roll her into the courtroom for trial like the Oompa Loompa’s did with the blueberry girl in Willy Wonka! Hee Hee Hee 👿
JB, You evidently havent seen Misty my space pics before she shut down . PaPa has some of them on his videos. Misty was quite the firecracker just like CA. jmo
I’m all alone aren’t I dang it! Someone better talk to me soon or I’m going to run naked through the room, eat all the chocolates and go pee on m2c’s hammock! LMAO
HEY, I’m NOT alone! Hello Tobias! No, haven’t seen the videos. But Misty was MUCH more into drugs than Casey was. I would like to see Misty get clean and stay that way. True, I don’t care much for Misty to be honest but I in no way dispise her like I do Casey Anthony…if she is innocent and in no way responsible for what happened to Haleigh…I think she should serve time for the drugs and then hopefully have a shot at a MUCH improved life…..unless I find out she hurt or killed Haleigh! Then all bets are off!
Everyone must be with TJ at the beach. I am doing laundry today and hanging out sheets and curtains. I have laundry soap. lol
tobias…so have you placed a cement block against the door so you can get in and out easily to do your laundry? LOL
tobias…good thing you stopped by…I was about to get in hot water with m2c for peeing on her hammock and eating all her chocolates! LOL
It would be nice but I doubt it unless she starts totally fresh and cuts ties with everyone she has known including family.
Timmy has gone part way by living far enough away but they still manage to pull him back in their messes. I hope the Croslins stay away from Mass. and his family gets their chance at normal. jmo
tobias…I agree about Timmy. I wish he’d stay out of Florida and move on with his life. But I fear that one by one all of the family (and their issues) will make their way to Massachusettes and start a whole new chapter of illegal activity there dragging Timmy and his family down with them. It is a vicious cycle with these people.
Time for me to go Tobias. Happy Easter. Hope the Easter Bunny brings you something special! 😀
Do you remember Hank and Tommys conversation where Hank said he always thought Tommy would be the one who would make it? From what I see Hank doesnt really acknowledge Timmy ever and this makes me wonder if there is some bad feelings there. Is it just me? And they say I love you but never Thank you, not once.jmo
My own hammock would be nice, one with fringe and a pillow.lol bbl
hey ya’ll, I still can’t get to the crystal roolins vdeo…can someone walk a dummy through the door? I have literally been trying for an hour and kept getting sidetracked with other vids. HELP
Now, the weight gain on Casey Maggot Anthony is just plain funny since she thinks she’s Gawd’s gift to mankind and Ms. Hot Body Universe! I LOVE to see her gain weight! LOL I hope they roll her into the courtroom for trial like the Oompa Loompa’s did with the blueberry girl in Willy Wonka! Hee Hee Hee
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
Me thnks, go to you tube type in Misty Cummings then go to the search options and chose month and it pops right up on top. Also remember to report it for obscene jestures. jmo
JB said,in April 1st, 2010 at 4:39 pm
All of these folks (Tommy, Misty and Ron) putting on weight IS a good thing but DOES show the amount of drug use they were involved in.
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JB,
I agree that they were all using drugs. I disagree with your statement about the amount of drug use. From my personal experience..I quit smoking for 10 weeks last year. Guess I wasn’t ready to quit but I am now smoking only half of what I did before. In those 10 weeks I went from 125 to 140 (I’m 5’8″ so not a bad thing). My point being that you can’t tell the amount of drug use by their weight gain. You did state that it “DOES show the amount of drug use they were involved in”. What is your opinion on the amount of drug use with the weight gain?
TJ Hart said,in April 1st, 2010 at 2:37 pm Momentarily out of retirement….
LE redacts (cuts the crap out of) the videos so they do not compromise any ongoing (possibly Haleigh)investgations. It would be a tragedy to allow evidence to prove case get out now and then not be useable later in court of law.
Back to the beach
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TJ, get your azz back here. Just joking. But we all here sure to miss you.. Be well.
Interesting in those videos (with that young girl reading Misty’s letters) in one letter, Misty signs her last name as Cummings, and in the 2nd letter she signs Croslin. Legally, she is Croslin.
You guys are just too funny this evening.I enjoyed that. I love seeing everyone getting along on here.
JB, never really had the opportunity to talk to you, but you crack me up. I had tears in my eyes from laughing.
I’m gonna try and find the you tube video. Not real good with that kind of thing, but I’m gonna try.
BBL. Hopefully you will all be back then. I could use your humor 🙂
Did Misty keep her married name after the divorce? I have no clue if she did or not. My ex sister-in-law kept my brothers name after they were divorced.
OOps, one more thing. It is 7:15 here. Are you all an hour behind me? I get confused with the time thing.
stg said,
in April 1st, 2010 at 6:20 pm
It was reported that Misty reverted back to Croslin. However, Tommy says she may as well face it, she’s a Cummings. (paraphrasing)
Maybe someone will direct you to that info… It won’t be me… I’m just plain ole lazy!!
See how lazy my azz is… It should have read
@ stg said,
in April 1st, 2010 at 6:20 pm
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It was reported that Misty reverted back to Croslin. However, Tommy says she may as well face it, she’s a Cummings. (paraphrasing)
Maybe someone will direct you to that info… It won’t be me… I’m just plain ole lazy!!
stg said,
in April 1st, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Did Misty keep her married name after the divorce? I have no clue if she did or not. My ex sister-in-law kept my brothers name after they were divorced.
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No.
In the divorce paperwork that both Ron & Misty signed, paragraph C states:
c. Restore Wife’s name to Misty Janette Croslin
This document was signed by both Ron, Misty and Brandon Beardsley and filed with the Court.
Here is the link you are looking for methinks..
The top two videos are of MC bff..
http://www.youtube.com/results?uploaded=m&search_query=Misty+cummings&search_type=videos&suggested_categories=25&uni=3
@stg…. See, someone did direct you!!
Tobias, Thanks a bunch for the help in finding those letters. WHAT A DUMB BI$%@!!! this chick is a freak! Man I wanted to slap the pee outa’ her. You can tell she’s on coke, she keeps wiping her nose and interupting her friend. AND I hope child services investigates this little snipe too! GRRRRRRRRRRR
Well, watched the video’s. Wow, the word that comes to mind is “skank”. How nasty. Yep, looks like a coke head to me. Someone needs to tell her she’s not doing Misty any favors. How long had it been since they even talked to each other. This freak thinks she’s gonna get on the news. Hey, maybe AH will interview her. That’s about his speed lately.
Brace yourself “methinks”.Knowing this young girl has a child of her own really give me the chills. I believe this young girls needs the ministry to be checking in on her. Is there parenting classes available for these young girls? I am not sure of how involved the ministry is with young drug addicted parents but they seem to have a real problem in some states. I am tired of seeing young children going missing and being abused daily.
Oh my.
I just listened to Hope Sykes in what sounds to be a recently recorded jail house telephone call to her Mother at First Coast News.
These people are just completely off the charts imvho. Just from what I heard it sounds as if HS thinks she can command what her sentence might or will be period.
Her tone with her Mother at times was just sad and if I heard correctly she may have said something about being a stripper but that when the Judge had asked her if she worked that she for sure wasn’t going to tell him that?
HS is apparently also another one who lacks education.
It struck me as odd about her telling to her Mother of when she was apparently riding with Ron either to or from the jail. (Not sure which.)
It made me wonder for a minute if she thought she were riding along with a rock star or something?
If I heard right she told her Mother that Ron said he was only looking at a possible 25 year sentence?
I guess it is possible that this is the deal that his lawyers are working on for him or?
Nevertheless, I believe that each one of these people are in for a huge wake up – called GAME OVER!
Thanks for the info J 🙂
http://www.bloggernews.net/124198
Make of it what you will.
Well, look who’s here.
Good to see you Simon. See, everyone’s behaving. Lol, it’s still early.
Just kidding guys.
Tuff… it seems as though Hope’s Mother has some sense!!
BAC,
Could you imagine the amount of stress her Mother must be feeling? There were pauses during the call where I could just imagine her Mother wondering to herself what the heck HS was going to say next. The fact that her Mother had wanted HS to call her just to be sure that Hope understood what was going on at all was very telling.
So sad.
That poor girl… truly doesn’t know what is going on… does she!!!
It seemed telling that HS’s Mother had asked HS to call her as her Mother wanted to be sure that HS understood/knew what was going on with the case.
Sad.
imo
BAC I didn’t get the impression that she was intimidated much by being sentenced at all.
She seems more accepting than anything imo. My impression though was that she somehow feels as if she can tell people how the cow ate the cabbage when it comes to the length of time or even type of sentencing she might receive.
Tuff… I could only imagine her mother wringing her hands over and over again. Trying to get it to land and embed in that girl’s head.
Hey all…long time no talk. I read through the comments and saw folks askin for a link to the youtube videos, so here they are. I hope they work, and I did it right lol. Have a great night everyone!!
Video 1- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoZuX3GovKI
Video 2-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGBd9BJTOnY
I think Hope just may be getting screwed!!
do we know a another brooks girl
I just listened to Hope Sykes tape, her lawyer is a worthless lazy skunk! she doesn’t even know ‘no contest’ is the same as guilty! Her attorney just fed her to the wolves..she above all was the least cupable and her attorney plead her no contest, without even telling her what the sentence would be or what charge she was pleading too? This is attorney malfeasance at least but its more like complicity with the prosecution to railroad this girl. This lady has been screwed big time, thats called RAILROADING!, if this passes for ‘justice’ in florida heaven help the not guilty.
I got the feeling Hope is not all there….and it seems she may be getting drugs in jail. She really had no idea what was going on and spoke like a young child in terms of her comprehension. Very sad.
I had gotten more of the feeling that she may very possibly have some false sense of self entitlement issues. jmvho
I think Hope has also been listening to the many Jail-house Lawyers! Besides being perhaps nuttier than a fruitcake!!!
I thought she sounded mentally disabled. She talked like a 6 year old, and seemed to have the same sort of understanding as someone that age, imo.
Just watched the Crystal Rollins video and all I was wondering was how old is she? She has a mouth like a sailor and all I wanted to do was wash her mouth out with soap! Its a shame that a child has to be raised by this foul mouthed brat!
I followed those links I understand what they are trying to do and I understand their perspective, they have the best of intentions at heart. What is being done to Misty by media is unfair, her family has brought a lot of their own stuff on. The Art Harris interviews, Hank Sr, Hank Jr, the mom going public all of it has been self afflicted and created a circus. I can understand some may have frustrations with Crystal because she was absent from the children’s lives, by choice. I can’t relate so I don’t understand but I don’t think she had anything to with or knowingly have anything to do with Haleigh going missing. At nineteen I was a Mother and it was never a struggle for me, I loved it everything came instinctively but I didn’t struggle with drugs. So I have no idea what that is like and I’m not going to Judge. Proper representation, suits go a long long way, a spoke person even goes further, this family needs representation! I don’t believe Misty had anything to do with what ever happened to Haleigh Cummings.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
Also someone needs to write a letter to M and let her know her bff is on youtube reading her letters and saying she probably lied about that night! This girl sure does not help Misty`s case at all. Can anyone say “This is your brain on drugs!”? No wonder Misty turned out the way she did with friends like this!
Dusty Rose–I think Misty does deserve some kind of spokesperson (even though I think her lawyer should be standing up for her). She has been maliciously targeted by Nancy Grace and Art Harris and several other media outlets. Its unfair and until they come out with some kind of credible evidence to link her to Haleigh`s disappearance, then they need to quit the slander. This girl is 18 years old with a 6th grade education who has lived pillar to post with no family support or role models. The lawyer might need to start with the threat of lawsuits to NG and AH and maybe they will report “real” news instead of speculation and downright lies!
I think Misty wanted Crystal “Charlie Brown mouth shape” Rollins, to do just that! I can’t see why anyone WOULD think a favoring outcome would be the result..tho!!
robin…
I totally agree with your 11:45pm post. If she had nothing to do with Haleigh going missing and someone else is eventually charged, I hope she sues them into bankruptcy.
I am worried she may suicide if given a long jail term on these charges. Her childhood (which she is barely out of) has been awful. Lisa and Hank ought to be in jail for taking her out of school in grade 6.
I’m just reading elsewhere how James Joseph Lane’s pic was updated on the RSO website on the 25th of March, just a few days before they started searching the river. For those that don’t remember, James is the guy who lived in the house before Ron & Misty, and he is an RSO.
I wonder if he possibly still had a key to the front door. Perhaps he got one cut before he moved out, and didn’t turn it over to the landlord and the landlord never changed the lock? I wonder if he knew Kyle Johns (another RSO) who lives close behind where Haleigh lived.
Nope! Ron stated to reporters that HE himself changed the locks when they moved in….try again
thats interesting me..elizabeth smart was kidnapped from her bed while her parents slept by some homeless idiot the mother hired to repair their roof..being asleep doesn’t equal guilty as many blame misty for.
All of thes girls are so young, and they are going to start out their adult lives in prison. It is such a shame. What chance will they have from here on?
I know they broke the law, but all of us fear our teenagers will make a mistake that they can’t overcome.
Misty and Hope both looked sedated in court. Misty’s eyes have looked like she was on a heavy tranquilizer in every court appearance.
karen; “I know they broke the law”..??
what planet are u from? ever heard of innocent til proven guilty? Thank god your not on the jury!
Hope said Ronald said they offered him 25yrs. I guess his attorney is still trying to get him less time.
I believe Ron said that he changed the locks himself! If Misty really was there and sound asleep as she once claimed, I wouldn’t necessarily categorize that under Guilty! However, IF she was there knocked out cause she was doping that evening… then I’d say negligence/endangerment/ and that she still should be held accountable.
HollysGmom said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 12:53 am Nope! Ron stated to reporters that HE himself changed the locks when they moved in….try again
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Try again?????
Do you have a link to him saying that?
BTW, have you seen Haleigh again lately?
OJ’s glove said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 12:57 am thats interesting me..elizabeth smart was kidnapped from her bed while her parents slept by some homeless idiot the mother hired to repair their roof..being asleep doesn’t equal guilty as many blame misty for.
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Sadly, it happens a lot. That’s why they call them predators.
Karon Cox said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 1:07 am Hope said Ronald said they offered him 25yrs. I guess his attorney is still trying to get him less time.
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I would hope so. 25 years is ridiculous for what he’s done.
Me:
You can find that on the Greta Van Susteren interview with Ronald Cummings. You can just google that in.
Hope’s personality sux! What a loser. Openly lying to the judge about her “employment”. Isn’t that perjury? Can we have those charges added please. This brat needs to leran a few things. Like she doesn’t get to call the shots! She’s lying about not understanding the plea. It’s to set up a improper defense issue.
The disrespect she shows her mother during the first half of the call is deplorable! I’d tell mine to think about stuff and call me back tomorrow and HANG UP! Ridiculous. Can’t people see how off these relationships are? Moms who allow their kids to cuss at them and make impossible demands without any reprimands. Not even so much as a “Hey!…Watch it!” Why are these grown chilren allowed such disregard for others, especially their family members? It’s just sickening!!!!
Per Hope’s words on call to MOM…We were right, Misty did pinch 2 pills from sale before handing them to UC. One she took, the other she handed to Ron…LOL!!!
WHen Ron was dating that stripper (rumored) was it a friend of Hopes? Somethingtells me she was.
Hope…dearie…since you don’t know, the reason you can be charged is that you FACILITATED the sale to MIsty. It was your contact, you rode with them, went inside with MIsty, FACILITATED the sale, then rejoined MIsty, ROn, & UC. You trafficked pills, whether they ever touched your skin or not. LOL!
OJ’s glove said,
in April 2nd, 2010 at 1:06 am
karen; “I know they broke the law”..??
what planet are u from? ever heard of innocent til proven guilty? Thank god your not on the jury!
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I don’t see how you got that from Karon’s comment below?
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Karon Cox said,
in April 2nd, 2010 at 1:02 am
All of thes girls are so young, and they are going to start out their adult lives in prison. It is such a shame. What chance will they have from here on?
I know they broke the law, but all of us fear our teenagers will make a mistake that they can’t overcome.
Misty and Hope both looked sedated in court. Misty’s eyes have looked like she was on a heavy tranquilizer in every court appearance.
who cares if he changed the locks..its only supposition a previous renter still had a key..
cent,
Do you feel the same for every parent who has a few glasses of wine with dinner? What about the ones that go out and celebrate their anniversaries, come home, sleep heavy, child abducted….is it their fault?
I just don’t get this blaming the victim stuff…it’s like blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt and revealing top.
OJ’s glove said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 1:14 am who cares if he changed the locks..its only supposition a previous renter still had a key..
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Thanks OJ.
I remember him saying something about the back door locks, but not the front door, but that was a long time ago. Anyhow, someone could have bumped the lock easily enough.
I just thought it was an interesting coincidence that same RSO was photographed this week, same week of the search.
OJ’s glove said,
in April 2nd, 2010 at 1:14 am
who cares if he changed the locks..its only supposition a previous renter still had a key..
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What!!!???!!
Karon Cox said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 1:12 am Me:
You can find that on the Greta Van Susteren interview with Ronald Cummings. You can just google that in.
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Thank you!
Robin,
Just what lies has Art Harris told ?
reread the previous posts cent and hopefully you won’t go “duuh huh say wha??
There never has seemed to be a question about the front door. I wonder if it had a deadbolt on it. I know the back door was left open, but I have wondered why they totally ruled out entry from a window or the front door. It may be the tracking dogs didn’t indicate anything but the back door.
You are welcome, Me.
Karon,
Given Haleigh ordinarily used the front door, and would have been in and out of it earlier that night, the dogs would have picked up her scent there too I would have thought.
Me… How am I blaming the victim… HaLeigh is the only true victim… that I see!!
You and everyone else knows there’s a difference between having a few drinks… in a celebratory manner…. versus popping pills, smoking crack, snorting coke… In my book alcohol is NOT an illegal substance.
And as far as your blaming a rape victim comment!! Why should I even address that.
From where I’m sitting OJ.. you’re the one duh!
Me:
Yes, Haleigh’s scent would have been there, too. I really don’t know enough about how the dogs track, but I haven’t been too sure that someone didn’t come in another way.
cent,
Alcohol might not be illegal, but it is still a very potent, and potentially fatal drug. It causes a lot more deaths, and violence than all other drugs. People do stupid things when they are drunk, and can sleep as heavily as someone who popped a prescription pill or two.
So, you think it’s okay to come home drunk from a night out and sleep in a house with kids, but not okay to take a couple of pain pills and care for kids? I can’t imagine how many mothers and caregivers take prescription medication, on the advice of their doctors each day, and still manage to care for their children. Drunks, not so much.
Karon Cox said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 1:36 am Me:
Yes, Haleigh’s scent would have been there, too. I really don’t know enough about how the dogs track, but I haven’t been too sure that someone didn’t come in another way.
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I feel the same.
I still believe an intruder/RSO is a real possibility in this case. I think it’s possible Misty slept through it (I have slept through major things before without using drugs, alcohol etc) and/or she went out for a short while and she was gone when she returned.
absolutely right me..this lynch mob mentality of some posters on here turns my stomach.
This case is confusing because we don’t know all the facts. We may never know. I just wish they would find Haleigh.
Me.. re-read your own post…. you answered your own question.
Karon… I think even when it all comes to a head… there will still be many unanswered questions. We may never find out.. why!
I agree, Cent. We will never know alot of it. I really don’t want to see anyone rairoaded, if they didn’t do it, however. It is better that they take their time than do that.
Me:
Do you think LE has completely closed their minds about a sexual predator taking Haleigh? I figured they were keeping that possibility open.
Do any of you remember about the neighbor whose house was searched, and LE asked him if he had a grandfather clock? I wonder what that was all about?
I was wondering if Junior said something about hearing a grandfather clock chime that night. Why else would they be looking for someone who had a grandfather clock? The neighbor said he let them search, because he didn’t have anything to hide. He said he didn’t have a graandfather clock.
Cent:
I am beginning to wonder if it all ever will come to a head. I am afraid it will become a cold case.
OJ
Yes, for some this is like a good old fashioned witch hunt. Scary stuff. This place is good though. The true lynch mobbers are in groups elsewhere for the most part.
Karon Cox said,
in April 2nd, 2010 at 1:52 am
Yes, I would hate for that to happen… too!
Karon @ 2:13… I don’t think LE will allow this to go unsolved… too many eyes are watching them!
Karon Cox said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 1:55 am Me:
Do you think LE has completely closed their minds about a sexual predator taking Haleigh? I figured they were keeping that possibility open.
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I sure hope so. I’ve noticed that they’ve really been backing away from their “Misty is the key” statements, and now saying they don’t want to have tunnel vision. So, that makes me think they are looking elsewhere.
I’m still wondering about this bridge search. I know that it’s very unlikely that it has to do with Haleigh….but I can’t help but wonder.
Cent:
I know LE knows more than they are telling, and you are right they want to get it solved real bad.
Karon Cox said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 2:13 am Cent:
I am beginning to wonder if it all ever will come to a head. I am afraid it will become a cold case.
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I think it already is a cold case.
I’m a bit puzzled by Simon’s new article which suggests Misty has been getting interviewed by LE, more than once. I’m surprised her lawyer is allowing it, and wonder what, if anything, is in it for her and what she is telling them.
Me: You really wonder. They said they were looking for a gun used in another woman’s murder. There sure seems to be alot of murders for such a small place.
Karon,
I believe that LE is working all angles. You’re right, they know more! Did you catch how HaLeigh’s case never came up in that audio between Hope and her mother?
Cent;
I didn’t catch that, actually. I think you are right, but Hope and her mother sure were against Misty.
Yes, Misty is NOT the popular ex in-law anymore! It also seems that they all “know” the Judges.
Karon Cox said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 2:23 am Me: You really wonder. They said they were looking for a gun used in another woman’s murder. There sure seems to be alot of murders for such a small place.
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Yep, and they are probably telling the truth about that…I can’t imagine they’d get the other family’s hopes up if it wasn’t true.
But I still can’t help but wonder…
Me:
I have gotten the impression from Misty that she has been interviewed a number of times.
She must feel like she has something to gain from talking to them. Tommy said he isn’t going to talk to them. I wonder if he has changed his mind, too.
Cent;
They probably know the judges. Hasn’t Hopes mother been in prison?
Karon,
Yep…over 30 hours of interviews even before she was locked up. And a year of watching her. And still nothing. I do hope they are also looking elsewhere.
One thing I have never understood was why they ruled out Cousin Joe, so quick. I wonder if they really did? They always seem to not want to talk about him. They seem to brush that subject off too fast, somehow.
yes, I wonder that too. And the same for the RSOs. And after Tommy was first interviewed and talked about how he went to the house, they carried on as though they thought he was entirely credible, and didn’t give any hint that they suspected him. How could they eliminate him as a suspect so quickly? And they pulled Lindsay in for questioning. I just don’t get this case. These people are not smart. If it was them, how in the heck has LE not been able to solve it?
Me:
I am wondering that myself.
Karon @2:39
Don’t know much about her! But, their boastings of knowing the Judge’s “personality”… goes beyond being informed of a Judge’s reputation!
I think I have heard she had spent some time in prison. If she has, I know she hates to see her daughter going down the same road.
The emphasis does seem to have shifted a little, like Me said. They are making a few more statements about not wanting to get tunnel vision.
That was funny about what Misty said about that woman wrapping herself, totally, in toilet paper, and then said she had arose from the dead.
Sunday’s show may be pretty interesting. There will be lots to talk about. Did anyone hear how Hank, Sr. came out in his hearing?
The things people do in jail!! At the jail I worked at, there was guy that cut the toe separator from his sandals and used them for ear plugs… of course the ear plugs got stuck!
Karon, I will see you later… gonna try for some sleep… only had 4 hours yesterday. Bye
Cent:
LOL that’s funny! I guess they had to dig them out. I wonder if he ever thought about getting athelete’s ears?
Cent:
Me too have a good night. Good night Me. That’s too many Me’s to suit me.
Good night Karon & Cent.
Karon Cox said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 2:06 am Do any of you remember about the neighbor whose house was searched, and LE asked him if he had a grandfather clock? I wonder what that was all about?
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Funny you should mention that now, when it is being exposed that ALL media can and has mislead bloggers and eventually LE.
We can thank a member at WS for recording NG and her grandfather clock at the same time and posting them on the WWW.
It has been obvious to me that the media has directed this investigation and persuaded the publics opinion since day one with the inaccurate and sensationalized statements that where misquoted and represented as accurate and fact.
Every day that has passed since HaLeighs abduction has given me a reason to look past Misty and straight at another.
Everyone can deny it or look the other way, but, in the end “she” will get exactly what she deserves.
You had better hope HaLeigh is alive and well!!!! If she isn’t,…. well you may what to take care of a few things yourself this time.
Everyone including LE know you read here!
Just got done listening to the Hope phone call. Wow she plead no contest and didn’t even know what it meant. She says she wasn’t paying attention. Swearing on the phone like a trucker to her mother. Saying stuff like I’m not doing this or that. I will only do such. I think the judge will make that call Hope. I think she needs to be locked up for a while..until she grows up.
Kymom–I would not say AH is a liar. I would say he misquotes and has to retract alot of statements he makes because of his mistakes. Is it intentional? I don`t know but read Texasmommy39 post at 8:48. That summed up my opinion pretty much. And it is not just him that pretty much has to sensationalize everything about this case. A better word to use might be misinformation, instead of lies, because there might be a measure of truth thrown in there (however small) to misdirect the public. This is called manipulation of the media and its running rampant in this case.
Hey all, I have not been blogging lately because my focus has always been on Haleigh and remains there so, with nothing new regarding Haleigh I have not had much to say.
I do want to comment on my fears that the Haleigh case may never be solved and why I feel LE may be at fault.
Much of Putnam County is rural and, for a rural area, the crime rate seems relatively high. I realize crime is everywhere, and I realize it is not possible to lock up all criminals.
However, I look at Hope’s arrest in early January on a drug offense, followed very soon after by her arrest on the trafficking charge, and I can’t help but think residents of that area know they can do whatever they want, whenever they want, with few consequences.
And there is Tommy’s statement to Timmy on the phone about all he has done in the past and nothing ever happened to him for any of it. Sounded to me like he knew LE turns a blind eye to criminal activity as a matter of routine. With that, he was free to do whatever, whenever.
Ron’s prior arrests on drug charges and other misdeeds went without consequences as well.
Daniel Snodgrass visited the Haleighbug Center and was asked to leave; he allegedly returned several times shouting obscenities and police were called. But they could not arrest him because his appearance had changed so much that LE was “not sure it was him” even though witnesses did identify him.
DS’s ankle bracelet seems to have malfunctioned at times as well, yet I have not heard he was taken in to have that checked out. Why not? If his GPS showed him at times in places other than where he actually was, how can LE say he “was nowhere near Haleigh’s house” the night she disappeared? How can they know that if his ankle monitor is possibly not working correctly? And how is it that an alleged sex offender out on bond is not recognizable to police?
There seems to be nothing that proves that Haleigh disappeared from the MH. She could have been elsewhere that night, in which case it would not matter if a RSO or suspected SO was “nowhere near” the MH.
I can only conclude at this time that it appears that LE has for a very long time left the criminals in that area free to do their deeds with few, if any, consequences. By LE, I am not referring only to police; prosecutors and courts often fail to act appropriately to keep citizens (especially children) safe.
So where are the jail videos ? I believe your website says that you would have them this morning…can we get some information on this PLEASE.
Anyone see/hear Misty talking to Papa… over at Jax
I did and she sounds alot like Hope in a way. Blames LE for everything wrong thats happened to her. No one forced her to do what she did, we all saw the UC videos she was more than willing. In one of the videos where she is discussing LP with her Mom she almost messes up and tells her to do what I told you to do.Please go back and listen to the tapes in their entirety and you get a clear picture.
Its like watching Jerry Springer when he has on teens out of control, and its really not funny, they just dont get it there are rules in this world and you have to obey them and if you dont it your fault. As far as feeling sorry for them I dont they knew what would happen and now its too late. jmo
Also excuse me but Hank,Lisa,Tommy and Misty all committed crimes. They are the ones who ruined their lives and no one else. What about all the people they stole from? Dont they count as having Tommy and Lisa ruining their lives? jmo
Karon Cox said,
in April 2nd, 2010 at 2:42 am
One thing I have never understood was why they ruled out Cousin Joe, so quick. I wonder if they really did? They always seem to not want to talk about him. They seem to brush that subject off too fast, somehow.
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he was given a LDT and interviewed by the FBI so I think that is why he was cleared. He was also re-interviewed by PCSO some months later..
what happened to the other thread about Art?
nevermind, I see it now.
Hope was a stripper? EWWW! Must have been for a low class establishment, I wonder why she thought the judge wouldnt approve? Her Mom didnt act like it was a problem. And who is this boyfriend who is in jail of Hopes? She seeemed worried about his trial.jmo
Hope did say Ron told her he was denied Drug Court and had been offered 25 years.
Well open court should be interesting, wonder how they are going to twist it to look like they were not doing anything wrong? JMO
When Hope talks about riding with Ron she sounds like she got to ride with Jonas brothers its just unbelievable.jmo
Ron also says he isnt writing anyone so he must be staying quiet until he goes to court. Would be smart not to let anything slip out that could be used later,like why he was with Misty in the first place.jmo
Tommy is still claiming its all drug related and Ron knows what went down. jmo
When people get involved with drugs it rules their lives. Every action revolves around their next high, etc. So of course it’s drug related.
Can anyone tell me where to find the newest tapes? Deadlines at work and haven’t had time to keep up. TIA.
Kate… All I’ve seen are at Jax news.
well…promises, promises,…here we go again…promising to have “some tapes out for us at 9am today….” well that has come and gone and as usual…simon, tj or whoever, is m.i.a…go figure…anyone have a credible honest site can find the tapes at? me thinks this site is a waste of promises, and time
well cw, this is the only place you will see all of the tapes instead of snippets so you should be thankful no matter when they come out. TJ said it takes a lot to convert the tapes to files that can be uploaded online and sometimes they need a little cleaning up as far as quality.
Does anyone know if Hope could change her plea at this point? She is scheduled to be sentenced in about three weeks, but in her phone call with her mom Hope seems to be upset now that she pleaded no contest. I am not too familiar with court procedures at the sentencing phase so is it too late for her to change her mind now? Anyone know?
cw=windchime??
I thought your post was a waste of time, and am puzzled as to why you bothered. No one is forcing you to read or post here.
windchime? hell no…try tinkerbell….lmao….
cw said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 5:14 pm windchime? hell no…try tinkerbell….lmao….
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me said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 5:25 pm cw said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 5:14 pm windchime? hell no…try tinkerbell….lmao….
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Yep.
ummm….not…now where are the long promised tapes? if u have nothing to contribute..go feed ur kids..cya
OK TIME OUT HERE PLS. CAN ANYONE PLEASE DIRECT ME TO THOSE AUDIO D/L? PLEASE AND THANKYOU HOPE THAT HELPS ME TO.
Billy go to Jax news…
http://www.news4jax.com/video/23029740/index.html
Sky973 tweet says reporters there are hinting at some new Haleigh information to be released soon.
Rather odd timing with the bridge/river search and all.
THESKY973DOTCOM WSKY reporters hinting more stories in the Haleigh case may be unfolding. TJ is STILL retired from investigative reporting..health concerns.
Cathartic:
SHe can change her mind until the judge decides to sentence her, IMO.
MC says that if she doesn’t get out of jail, she’s going to quit smoking and join the church choir.
cw said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 3:56 pm well…promises, promises,…here we go again…promising to have “some tapes out for us at 9am today….” well that has come and gone and as usual…simon, tj or whoever, is m.i.a…go figure…anyone have a credible honest site can find the tapes at? me thinks this site is a waste of promises, and time
######################################################## well me thinks you should be alittle more patient or go find somewhere else to act a fool.
Cut Simon some slack. He’s not in Florida and has to have someone pick them up, and then has to work on them to be able to get them online. People should be thanking him for all the time and effort involved in making them available to us. People also have families and lives and this is typically a busy family weekend. Thank you Simon.
Hey everyone…methinks I’ll insert my 2 cents now regarding Hope…What a snipe! If my daughter spoke to me in that fashion, I would slap her so hard that by the time she landed, her darn clothes would be out of style. I guess I thought she was rather quiet and soft spoken…man was I wrong…WOW! That attitude will take her places huh?
Ya! What curious said!
Hey CocoaHead, I understood Misty as saying if she DOES get out, she will quit smoking and join the church choir.
She knows she’s being recorded so she’s making promises to be a good girl if they will just let her out…um…yeah OK.
methinks said,in April 2nd, 2010 at 7:06 pm Ya! What curious said!
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me 2! Thank you Simon. Hope you and Jan are enjoying Easter weekend.
Hi everyone
Any ideas as to when the tapes will come out? I am not trying to be impatient just wondering.
TIA
Have a great easter weekend all
HGM:
The fact that Misty is saying she wished she had never met Ronald and the hint by T.J. that there will be some more stories breaking in the Haleigh case sounds interesting.
Hi Tracey. There is a 2 min snippet on Jax 4. Other than that, I suppose the first one to get the tapes and uplaod them, will be the one getting all the traffic. My bet is if not here, then the coast news station will.
Thank you billyboy.
The best laid plans of mice and men do not always work out the way that they are planned. We are in Mississippi and the DVD’s are in St Augustine, Florida. Our ‘courier’ (unpaid) could not get to pick up the DVD’s before ‘close of play’ on Thursday. Today they are closed (Good Friday). The next opportunity will be Monday. You can rest assured that we are busting a gut to get our hands on these DVD’s.
As best I can tell, no other news org has them available either.
If you happen to live in the St Augustine area, drop a line to Jan, we could use a backup system.
Thank you, Simon!
Enjoy your holiday!
We will be here waiting (anxiously) lol
We appreciate you getting the tapes for us, so thank you very much!
Over on Art’s site… Hope’s audio is there with “transcript”
Waiting for a Viral Load Vid of Baby-Seal-Sykes Tantrum!!
Hope was RAILROADED!! she doesn’t even know what “no contest” is for christs sake..her so called ‘lawyer’ is in cahoots with the prosecution, he is not protecting her or looking out for her best legal interests at all!! Public defenders are hand in glove with prosecuters..they are more concerned with their careers than the rights of the accused!
Hope was RAILROADED!!!
Oh….poor Hope….:( NOT!!! LOL!
Simon,
I watched a you tube video about converting those DOV files into mp3 files. It was ridiculously simple. He just right clicked and saved the file but instead of just clicking ok, he clicked drop down menu, checked save as MP3 and boom! It was done. I don’t know if that will work for your videos but it is worth a try. It supposedly takes out the watermark too but I don’t know for sure.
I wish I did live a little closer. Right now I could get there within 4-5 hours. No help from Armando this time?
Karon…My ovenight friend…I miss you….LOL
Hey, I think I’m off on Monday too! 4 hours to St Auggie, 4 hours back, 3 hours to Miss. It’s very do-able.
Hi HGM
HGM:
Where are you going?
Oh, you are going to pick up the videos.
News4Jax is reporting that Misty told her dad that she wished she had never met Ronald. I wonder what is going on.
Hey Karon…Sorry I missed you….
Since I ahd been talking with others about Brian Ladd of BriansDreams AND several of us have been wondering if the Palatka Bridge search really has something to do with Haleigh’s case I thought I would post the most recent Dream Drawings descriptions. It seems relevant when seen all together.
“body west of school 1300 feet – there are boats near by, St. John”
“coffee can, was wearing red – by her school – was alive when she put her in there, not overdose”
“go to the school – letters are not the truth, $175,000 — they did not get it yet, 3/2/09”
“St John by tracks, Bayu Drive – blood will match the blood police already have – Gale”
“Haleigh – St. Johns, boat, barret time, you will find something there”
Especially that last one!
Also I looked at the other DD’s that were mentioned rcently as possibly being about this case and I DO agree!!!
Barrett time…that you Simon?
Blood matches the blood they already have.
I wonder what that means? They have RC’s blood from the door.
HGM:
Missed you again. HAVE A HAPPY EASTER, EVERYBODY.
Hollys Gmom said,in April 3rd, 2010 at 4:19 am
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When are you on? I would love to chat.
Karon Cox said,in April 3rd, 2010 at 4:38 am Blood matches the blood they already have.
I wonder what that means? They have RC’s blood from the door
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You forgot the sheet that KP’s “investigators” found and she submitted as evidence with PCSO and went on NG to confirm what they found and turned over to LE.
For anyone who has not heard the recordings yet, both First Coast News and News4Jax have Hope’s phone call to her mom. They have the Misty tape too but it is just a little snippet not really worth much, imo.
You have to go to More Videos and select Hope’s phone call from that list.
When Ron’s lawyer said he is working on making a deal w/the state, all it means is that he and the Prosecuter are doing a plea deal; it’s just official talk for the same thing. Ron denied drug court a long time ago in his past, so according to Florida law, if you deny it once, u are no longer eligible;
But, when looking at his past convictions, (and yes he was charged and convicted) he was given ODD and leniant sentencing, so that’s why I am always thinking he turned informant in order to stay out of prison/jail before Haleigh was born.
Texas Mommy:
Where did KP’s investigator’s find the sheet? I remember something being said about it, but noboby talked much about it.
Good qustion!!!! She never said.
Somebody said….I think Mr unmentionable might have talked about it at his site. I may be able to dig that info up…I’ll try.
I’m off work tonight so I’ll be online for hours…LOL! Post if you’d like to discuss…
First off we must remember the mentions of evidence from PCSD…
Putnam County Sheriff’s Office Lt. Johnny Greenwood said evidence and the work of investigators have minimized the likelihood that Haleigh’s disappearance is the work of a stranger.
Greenwood said physical evidence found at the Cummings’ home contradicted Croslin-Cummings’ account of her evening activities.
http://www.wesh.com/news/20422695/detail.html
During the discussion, a review was conducted of the initial call, searches that had been performed, evidence that had been gathered, results of laboratory analysis of the evidence and the results of various interviews by the different agencies.
Also, quite a lot of evidence was initially collected by the FDLE Crime Scene Technicians. Some has not yet been analyzed, and priorities were set for that analysis.
There are still investigative leads to be followed, evidence to be analyzed, and previous interviews to be re-conducted. The group intends to meet again in 30 days if the case has not yet been solved.
PCSD NEWS RELEASE
June 5, 2009
DNA samples were collected from many of those interviewed and compared to evidence collected in the case.
•The sheriff’s office said the Florida Department of Law Enforcement processed the crime scene, and many items of potential evidentiary value were collected and sent to FDLE’s crime lab for analysis. Investigators said all of that evidence has been examined and processed, but none of it has identified any suspect or additional leads as to who the suspect may be.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/22518951/detail.html
FEB 10 2010
So these PCSD statements, to me, say that there is “evidence”. Possibly blood evidence, but not necessairly. THey DO however, have both Crystal, & Ron’s DNA, and possibly Haleigh’s through toothbrush & Hair brush samples, so they could match her DNA to a found sample if one were to be found.
Holly’sGMom, I am just checking in… need to take shower and put hubby to bed be on in an 1 1/2 hour (max). LOL
Would love to chat tonight… alot seems to be going on and hopefully we will soon hear about it, if TJ is not pulling our leg.
Also I read you did check out the DD’s at BD”S and you might also think they are related, want to talk with ya about that too. BBL
Next week may be an interesting week in this case from the way things are lining up.
Misty’s Dad saying on that tape that he doesn’t believe what he is hearing. He says it doesn’t add up to him. I got the feeling he was hearing new accusations against Misty or Tommy. I really felt like they were against Misty.
I am a little afraid Misty is going to be set up, myself. I want the guilty party to be found out. We don’t know many of the facts, but I am getting an uneasy feeling about a need to find someone guilty, no matter what. I hope that is not the case.
Hi Karon and Hgmom!!
Karon, I so want the truth, no matter what that is, the whole truth but absolutely not a set up.
Haleigh, the innocent ones in her family, her friends and all of us bloggers deserve the truth. This has been a long hard 14 months. We have all invested part of ourselves into this and many of us are weary and need the whole truth.
Ran into this and had to post it since we now KNOW that MIsty & Ronald bought & sold drugs, this is relevant due to the claims made by the witness. I feel this may substantiate he claim.
Whether she wound up back at the trailer Sunday night is not known, but a parent in the carpool line Monday afternoon has told police –and The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview, that she overheard Misty griping at the wheel of the family’s blue van as she waited for Haleigh to get off the school bus, about the “bad ****” they’d bought from someone the night before (Sunday), and would never buy anything from that dealer again.
The parent who was also waiting for her children to get off the bus and asked to go nameless, told me it sounded like Misty was talking to her companions in the car about drugs they’d used the night before (Sunday). “I was pulled up right next to her window and could hear it clearly,” the woman told me, saying it was the same account she gave investigators.
But what she says she saw next truly shocked her. Haleigh emerged from the bus, all smiles, and began running to the van, where Misty was trying to control two little boys, possibly Ronald Jr and Haleigh’s cousin who is the son of her brother and sister in law, Lisa. She says she heard an obviously irritated Misty scream for Haleigh to hurry up, then slap one of the boys…
AH Posted on TruTV 06/11/2009
Karon, I said the innocent one’s in Haleigh’s family deserve the truth and that is true. However, if there are any guilty one’s in her family they deserve the truth the very most, the truth and the justice that will bring.
Absolutely ladies. I am hopefull that if a conviction of Misty is in the works, they’ve taken all this time to MAKE SURE she’s the guilty party. Even if she’s not, an impending conviction for child murder might finally loosen those lips…for real…
I’m not quite sure of what to make of Hank’s comment. It’s so difficult to pin point the dates/time of these vids. Unless he has a endless supply of those yellow shirts, I’m thinking that there is no great distance (days/weeks) in-between what we see! I don’t know!
Hey Girls! (guys too, if you’re just reading. LOL)
Got off to a big start on that sheet issue.
I’d also like to discuss issue of possible relation of river search and Haleigh’s case. Any connections (There have been a few, even if only heresay or rumor) to that location, items they may be actually searching for, whether firearm they claim to be searching for also related?
Brian’s dreams discussion of drawings, show info, case related posts.
As per bloddy sheet, it is stated that Peggy Cone was the officer who collected that evidence. I know there was a video on one of the news (maybe more) about it’s discovery (Even if LE hasn’t confirmed it).
Anybody remember that video or news report?
Any idea of a date? Prior to June 11th, I believe.
Hollysgmom, so that was a confirmed account of that day? I had heard that story but then I thought it was later confirmed by LE that Ron picked Haleigh up that day. It is so hard to work through this case when we don’t have some of the basic facts correctly. If I am remembering correctly, I think, Vaquera told us here on BNN where it is that LE confirmed Ron picked her up. Am I mixed up on this?
They (PCSO) claim Feb 17th – March 4th to be released Friday/Monday.
So would it be a good assumption that they are prior to FEb 17th? The last we saw was Feb 10th, right? Is this the week in between?
Hi BACent!!! So happy to see you here!!!
Hgmom, I will go look for that info about the sheet. brb
No Treece,
I think you are correct. I’m just saying that now we do know PART of that witnesses statement is very likely true. So why not all of it? Was Misty with Ron? By this witness account Jr was in the car. Maybe she struck Jr while Ron was hugging Haleigh…Just thought it was odd that part of the statement seems very true.
Treece… I remember that after some time… LE did confirm that Ron picked her up. And I thought that the other parents got the day wrong. Maybe we can find out by ID’ing who the kid in the van was… the one that Misty “smacked”!
I’m getting to the point I don’t believe ANYTHING PCSO says. Not now or before. They tell the CRIMINAL what they want him/her to know through the media. We aren’t in the equation.
I believe it might be TC’s son who was on cam for visits.
LOL @ HGM and my smack post.
Hey, Treece!!!
Sorry, I got off topic with that post. I just jumped at me for some reason…The smacking wasn’t the thought behind it, it was the drug references.
So glad to see you guys! 🙂
Same here!!
A lot of what I’ve been posting lately is in the effort of myth busting. I’ve tried to post stuff I find that others have recently asked about. Sometimes a few days before.
If we crack the myths, we WILL find the real truth.
Just watched the New Sherlock Holmes movie…I’m feeling it. LOL!
What do you guys think about that gap under that fence behind TC’s house????
The same fence that seperates that property from the dumpster search site?
HGM… 2 days ago I was at Walmart and was going to buy it! I love me some Sherlock… RDJr
I don’t know what to make of it. I will have to go back to look at it again. I did think that it was a good exit/entry point!
I know, “officals” have stated that “the dogs could hit on a band aid or a sanitary napikn” So, did they find either of those items in that dumpster that 3 CADAVER dogs “hit” on?
Also, “officials” have stated the Mondex search was NOT Haleigh related. They however, changed that story a couple of days later.
These same “officals” have also stated that they would lead a suspect to be confident and to think they had gotten away with it. (Paraphrase) I’ll dig direct quote, if needed.
He’s great in it, as is Jude Law. There WILL be a sequel…
HGm… I think it’s correct, then the perp, will slip up!
I can’t find the actual info about the sheet but I found an interesting comment about the sheet on another forum that was written 3/28/09 so that might help with the date. HGmom I emailed you the article.
A detective in the case told WJXT-TV in Jacksonville that at about 5 p.m. Thursday cadaver dogs alerted an officer to something in the Dumpster.
Earlier in the day, several teams of dogs specially trained to find human remains began searching in the area around the Putnam County mobile home park where Haleigh disappeared on Feb. 10.
Nine Putnam County deputies and seven K-9 teams, some from a non-law-enforcement group called Canine South, were searching “to ensure that no possibility is overlooked in the search for Haleigh.”
“It could be various items, and may not necessarily be something related to the case,” said Brian Selzer, of Canine Search and Rescue as investigators searched through the plastic bags found in the Dumpster.
Selzer explained that the dogs brought to Satsuma have been trained to alert only on the scent of human decomposition, not meat or dead animals. He said the dogs could hit on a something a small as a bandage used to cover a person’s bloody cut.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18806506/detail.html
I think it was said that the dogs would hit, even if those two bloody items had been already removed from the dumpster. But did a search/rescue dog hit on it? (the name escapes me of the dogs)… non Cadaver dog
BA;
I’ll look to see….
TY Treece, I’ll check it.
I think they are called (SARs) which is just short for search and rescue dogs.
WoW! SInce I know first hand about “their” WS antics, I can say I could believe it. I am now wondering about the supposed involvement of Peggy Cone….I’m going to search on her specifically about this. Let’s see if anything comes up.
brb
Hi everybody!
I know LE is putting out whatever story they think will cause one of the possible suspects to crack. It is getting us muddled up about the facts, and they may want the guilty party’s story to get muddled up, too. It will be alot easier to trip them up on something.
It is alot easier to remember the truth.
BAcent I emailed it to you too – just so you can see what we are talking about. LOL
Karon, you are right the truth is easier to remember and keeping lies straight is hard to do. But I think we might have a profession liar in this case. The truth has fled for 14 months. I pray the whole truth is exposed very soon.
I know NG called the dogs cadaver dogs, and she said they know a dead body scent. She has always believed those dogs hit on those dumpsters because a dead body was there. She said they would not have hit on anything else. So I wonder if LE is giving us the straight story on that, either.
If I understand it right SARs are dogs that are trained to track live people. You give them an item of the missing person and they are actually tracking that individuals scent.
Cadaver dogs are trained to strictly search for dead bodies. They aren’t tracking an individuals scent they are trained to find the scent that is only put off by a dead body.
It seems TJ reported on the findings of the “bloody sheet” right here at BNN on a Radio show.
http://www.bloggernews.net/120272
March 29th 2009
The 3 dogs that cuased the dumpster search were cadaver not SAR, I thought. It was in the quote?
So are we to believe that LE never checked for her scent in or around the dumpster? What lead LE there to begin with… anyone remember?
This is where Greta on Fox talked about the dogs hitting on the dumpster
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,501724,00.html
Treece:
Yes, the stories are already such a muddled up mess. You know, LE just needs one slip that they haven’t heard before that could take them in the right direction. The right piece to the puzzle, and it will all fall into place.
cent, I think they had SAR dogs there the very morning Haleigh went missing, remember them talking about the dogs going to those RR tracks.
Karon, I so hope that is true and it all comes together soon. I guess my biggest fear in this case it that stays unsolved or at least hidden for many years.
Yes, SAR dogs were on scene within the hour. Remained for 3 days, searching. Tracked to Tyler (redacted but if you look at the map, it’s obvious) then on to Buffalo Bluff Rd, ending at RR tacks.
So, If they really did track past TC’s house (Why redact it otherwise?) then TC or someone else could have carried an atricle of Haleigh’s to the BB RR site to lead dogs on past that property. Maybe…Just a thought.
I know this sounds so selfish and my heart breaks for the innocent family members but I won’t be here for another year. Not meaning to be selfish or mean but I can’t invest so much of myself for another year.
I think this track was what prompted that dumpster search…I’ll lokk to see if there is mention of why that location.
Also I had an idea about the river search. We should look into the case PCSO is claiming the search is about to see what type of gun they are looking for. Does it match any description we know of in this case?
Treece;
I too know what you mean. I posted just last night on my FB that I was having a hard time facing another cruel year. This past one has been so hard.
Marc, Shaniya, Sarah, Hasanni, Adji, Haleigh, Aja, and others…
I’m still waiting for the truth for JonBenet….
I suppose LE just decided it was time to start looking for a body or something was said during questioning that made them suspicious enough to bring the cadaver dogs out to search the area.
I will continue to pray for the kids but I will not give them my heart life I have Haleigh. I feel like she is part mine.
like I have Haleigh…
Treece:
I know what you mean. I have had to scale back quite a bit on it already. I still keep my ears open, but I just can’t give up so much emotional energy, anymore. I have sworn off getting so involved in the missing children cases, anymore. They are too painful.
Deputies did their own search of the house for Haleigh but didn’t find her.
The missing person’s unit with the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office responded to the house.
A canine officer followed a track that lead directly out the back door of the home and down a wooded path.
Deputies found what appeared to be a small footprint in the dirt, but noted Haleigh’s shoes were still inside her home.
The tracking dog led deputies to a pond and back to Green Drive, Haleigh’s street. Deputies looked inside a small building with a door that had been left open. Nothing was inside.
The track continued north past Haleigh’s home down Monroe Avenue and onto Buchan Circle, which looped back to Monroe Avenue. The canine officer continued to track down Buffalo Bluff Road but lost the track at the railroad crossing.
http://www.florida-cracker.org/archives/004565.html
Karon, I am proud of you for scaling back a little and bringing more balance to your life. That is what I am going to have to do very soon. I just keep thinking one more week and we should know something……………for over a year now.
That’s just the latest in a string of developments in the search for Haleigh Cummings.
Late Thursday afternoon, investigators went to the neighborhood behind Haleigh Cummings’ house and began searching through a construction dumpster.
After 5 p.m., the search moved into the Villas neighborhood, which is just on the other side of a fence from where Ronald and Haleigh Cummings’ house is located. It is about a quarter-mile away.
Three different dogs trained to sniff out human remains alerted their handlers to the same spot on the dumpster.
But after four hours of searching, investigators did not find anything in the dumpster pertaining to the case.
First Coast News Erich Spivey asked why the dumpster wasn’t fully searched earlier.
“We didn’t search over this. In fact, we’ve searched it in depth. We just never took all the trash out,” replied Major Gary Bowling of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.
When asked if there are any other areas close to the home that haven’t been fully searched, Bowling said no.
Thursday was their busiest day in about a week.
Capt. Dick Schauland says the dogs will be used in the search again today.
There will be seven dogs searching through the woods behind the Cummings’ house, and because the woods are thick, the search is expected to take all day.
Capt. Schauland adds that the flurry of activity recently is not the result of any new information, but routine procedure to re-check areas.
Erich Spivey Created: 2/26/2009 5:42:40 PM Updated: 2/28/2009 12:09:26 AM
I think it is really sinking into Misty, now, that she will never get out of jail, if she doesn’t make a deal and tells all she knows.
Well Girls, I am tired, worked hard today, going to bed. Hope you all have a blessed Easter. We have so much to be thankful for!!!!
Updated: Friday, 27 Mar 2009, 12:47 PM EDT
Published : Thursday, 26 Feb 2009, 8:08 PM EST
SATSUMA, Fla. (FOX30, Jacksonville) – Nothing was located in a dumpster that was alerted on by cadaver dogs Thursday in the search for a missing 5-year-old.
Putnam County Sheriff’s Major Gary Bowling said they had cleared a large construction dumpster located about a quarter of a mile from the home where Haleigh Cummings was last seen just over two weeks ago.
Bowling said they were ‘relieved’ that no human remains were found and added that canines would continuing searching Friday. The canine teams are a part of a non-law enforcement organization that specializes in finding human remains.
It was during one of the searches Thursday that a dog specially trained to find human remains alerted on the dumpster. Major Bowling said the dumpster had been checked before but not as thoroughly as the search conducted Thursday evening.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/022609Haleigh_Search
There is such a delay in my posting time right now I didn’t see your post.
Hgmom thanks for finding that info.
Karon, I hope reality is hitting Misty and tells anything and everything she knows about Haleigh.
Treece;
You too! I will be thinking about you all & Haleigh tomorrow! (Toaday, lol)
I heard that LE asked all the neighbors to not talk to the press about what they knew. I believe that because certain neighbors were talking at first and, then, you don’t hear anymore about what they said. It just fades away.
Like I heard right at first on one of the area broadcasts that a neighbor saw Tommy go by the house that night. Then, nothing else was said, until Tommy admitted he went by there that night. I wonder what else Tommy gave up to get out of jail.
Treece: Happy Easter. Rest well.
treece said,
in April 4th, 2010 at 12:04 am
Hollysgmom, so that was a confirmed account of that day? I had heard that story but then I thought it was later confirmed by LE that Ron picked Haleigh up that day. It is so hard to work through this case when we don’t have some of the basic facts correctly. If I am remembering correctly, I think, Vaquera told us here on BNN where it is that LE confirmed Ron picked her up. Am I mixed up on this?
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You’re right, Capt Schauland confirmed on HLN that Ron picked up Haleigh, this was March a year ago. Many of us heard it, TJ confirmed as he was on same show, and I read the transcript that HLN sent someone.
From a Greta VanSusteren Live report with Leslie Coursey at the scene.
LESLIE COURSEY, WAWS: That is right. Where Haleigh lived is about one-quarter of a mile down that way. Where Haleigh’s grandmother lives is maybe two tenths of a mile down this way. The fence is right here, and right on the other side of this fence is where the dumpster was located.
VAN SUSTEREN: We are told that a cadaver dog had a hit. Do you have any more information beyond that? Can you tell us what time a day it was, or had they been there before?
COURSEY: I do. About 3:00 today, three different cadaver dogs hit on the same exact dumpster. They do not know why the dogs hit on the dumpster. This area has been searched before, but this was the first time the dumpster was empty.
The emptied everything out. It took about two hours. And just a few minutes ago police came outside and said they found nothing. They found no evidence, no dead animals. They have no idea why these dogs hit on the dumpster.
VAN SUSTEREN: Have there ever been cadaver dogs at that dumpster after February 9 other than today?
COURSEY: They have had canines out here and bloodhounds, but this is the first time they have had cadaver dogs out. There was seven dogs out today. There will be 12 dogs out tomorrow.
VAN SUSTEREN: I take it the dumpster has been dumped since February 9. Is that right?
COURSEY: No. This was the first time the dumpster was emptied. The area, this lot behind me, has been searched three or four times, police say. But they had bloodhounds out.
But they never got a hit on the dumpster. They said before tonight’s there was really no reason to empty it. Tonight was the first time it was emptied.
Inside all they found was construction debris and leaves and branches, things like that.
VAN SUSTEREN: Is there anyone in that mobile home area that you know has any relationship whatsoever with Haleigh Cummings family?
COURSEY: Like I said, right where we are–I can see Ronald Cumming’s house from where I am right now. Where Haleigh lived is just about a quarter of mile down the road. So they walked past this every single day. There are a lot of relatives here in this neighborhood.
VAN SUSTEREN: The dumpster looks like a typical dumpster, at least the aerial shot that we had. Did the dogs hit in the same exact area of the dumpster?
COURSEY: Police didn’t say that. They did say just three different dogs hit on that exact same dumpster. They emptied the dumpster. They even lifted up the dumpster to make sure nothing was underneath. And, again, they found nothing.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,501724,00.html
The thing about all of this with Haleigh is that I think it would have been more of a panicked, not very well planned thing. I think several people were involved and they were in a hurried, panicked state.
I heard Capt. Schauland confirm it, also.
I agree….sudden incident with flurry of calls & activites following, JMO though.
River search info:
The search is related to the murder of Karen Boehm, who was shot to death on July 22, 2007, in the parking lot of the Towers Grande condominium at 255 South Atlantic Ave. in Daytona Beach Shores, Fowler said.
“There are no arrests at this time. We are hopeful these new leads will lead us to a suspect,” he said.
Fowler said they are “not releasing anything that has been located so far.”
“I don’t anticipate that we will,” he added.
The Daytona Beach Shores DPS and the State Attorney’s homicide investigation unit developed information that led them to Putnam County in the search for evidence in the murder of Boehm. Investigators believe that key evidence may be in the St. John’s River between Palatka and East Palatka.
Fowler could not comment as to what items were being sought below the murky waters, which reach 15 to 20 feet deep in the search areas.
Divers had to battle the river’s current and near-zero visibility underwater.
“We believe that the new information in this case is credible and are optimistic that the leads we are following will assist us in finding Karen Boehm’s killer,” said Detective Karen Howard of the Daytona Beach Shores DPS.
The search drew a few curious onlookers to the park area Monday, with some asking if the dive teams were related to missing Satsuma kindergartner Haleigh Cummings.
The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office and State Attorney’s Office confirmed that it was not related to the missing child.
By Kristin Chambers
Published: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:27 AM EDT
http://palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/03/31/news/news01.txt
Several people may be in prison because of this thing, before it is over. I don’t know who or why, and I don’t claim to.
Posted: 4:52 pm EDT March 29,2010
Updated: 6:07 pm EDT March 29,2010
VOLUSIA COUNTY, Fla. — Dive teams from four different sheriff’s offices were in the St. Johns River on Monday afternoon searching for a murder weapon near the Volusia-Putnam county line.
Investigators say the search is linked to an unsolved murder case from Volusia County that’s two to three years old. And, though WFTV asked the State Attorney’s Office multiple times to give details on what cold case it’s working on, officials refused to say a word.
Divers told WFTV they had zero visibility in the dark water, saying it’s like swimming in cold coffee. They ended Monday’s search after around eight hours.
Eighteen deputy divers searched the murky the bottom of the St. Johns River. They began at 8:00am and concentrated on a section of river right under Memorial Bridge in Palatka. The divers said they were feeling the bottom with their hands for a gun that was involved in an unsolved homicide within Volusia County limits two to three years ago.
The State Attorney’s Office got a tip the weapon was thrown over the side of US-17 and requested Putnam, St. Johns, Clay and Flagler sheriff’s offices for the help. Deputies worked in the black water for hours and found nothing.
The search will continue until Wednesday.
http://www.wftv.com/news/22991707/detail.html
Boehm, 45, of Port Orange was shot to death with a .45-caliber bullet while riding her bicycle at 12:30 a.m. near the south side of the Towers Grande condominiums in the 2000 block of South Atlantic Avenue. She was supposed to work at Caffe Latte five blocks away, but her boss told her she could have the night off. Police found her on the ground astride the bicycle, and believe she probably knew her assailant.
Police continue to pursue several leads, said Detective Brian Brueggemann. A resident of Towers Grande called 9-1-1 after hearing one shot fired. Police have offered no motive, but robbery was ruled out. Boehm had a criminal history that included drug charges, theft and battery. “We have information that we aren’t releasing, because only certain people would know about it,” Brueggemann said. “Hopefully soon we can come to a conclusion.”
Police showed Eric Boehm a picture of a man and asked if he knew him. “I only saw her make (one drug transaction) at the Sunshine Mall in South Daytona,” he said. “I couldn’t see the guy.” Detective Karen Howard said Rory Davis, 18, is wanted for questioning and is known to frequent the Berkshire Road area and other parts of Daytona Beach.
http://www.news-journalonline.com/special/coldcase/2008/060908.htm
Ok so we know that the gun they are supposed to be searching for shoots a .45 caliber bullet. Is a .45 hand gun the only gun to do so?
I would love to go to one of those court hearings. It would appear alot different seeing the people close to Haleigh in person.
I will have to ask my husband, but I would think so.
I agree Karon…I have been wanting to take that day trip for some time now.
Reading some disturbing talk about carb traps and Palatka river…GGMS has been a crabber for year. Surely Ron has been gifted with her carbbing knowledge. There is a you tube video by a local that discusses this issue. There is some confusion per Ron & Misty’s jail transfers that occured the same day as his video posted. It later was determined that their transfer explained the “confusion”.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99272&page=6
I believe they heard on the scanner that the search would resume on Monday.
same link
I will say one thing about the people (whoever they are that is involved in all of this) they are awfully scared or willful, one. It is unusual for something to go this long without being solved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrQ9YGuJiKE&feature=player_embedded
Welatka resident has beliefs that Haleigh might have been put inside a crab trap and thrown into the middle of the St Johns River.
He states he has relayed this info to Cobra & LE.
HGM:
Are you satisfied that they have their guy in that Somer Thompson case? I am still hesitant about that case, and I am not sure LE has all they need to convict Harrel in that case.
I was sceptical but they claim DNA on her of his, plus his own admission prior to the DNA analysis comming back seems to indicate it was him. He may have had an accomplise though….
Usually, the prosecutor sounds more definite about a case. Diena seems a litle uncertain, too. She said something like ‘there may be a trial in one to 3 years.’
You may be getting more details because you are closer than we are. They seem to be using terms like ‘he made some admissions.’ I haven’t heard that he made a definite confession.
I am crashing for tonight. I am afraid I am out of anything new on Haleigh’s case, for now. Until something breaks, I don’t know what to believe, anymore. Maybe, we will hear something new, this week. I wish they would turn up some kind of evidence in this underwater search that they are doing. Thanks HGM for all you are digging up for us.
If you hear anything different in Somer’s case, will you let me know? I would appreciate it.
I hope in Haleigh’s case it doesn’t come down to which family is the most influential in their town.
Good night, HGM. I may be on tomorrow, or tomorrow night. I hope to talk to you then. I wish I had more to offer in this case, but we need something new to go on. Maybe, these tapes coming in will give us all a new spark.
According to Chelsea Croslin, Misty describes how her brother, Tommy, also behind bars on drug charges, and a cousin, Joe (Overstreet), dropped by the trailer to steal a gun we’ve since learned was a prized assault rifle that Ronald Cummings had been bragging about – and even showed off — over beers at his trailer with Joe and Tommy.
According to her letter, Chelsea said Misty wrote that when Tommy and Joe arrived, “Misty told them she didn’t know Ronald had apparently taken the gun from his usual hiding place. So when they got there, and couldn’t find the gun, Tommy said, ‘I’m going home,’ and left, and then Joe got mad, grabbed Haleigh and took off.”
You know who…LOL
HARRIS: Yes. Mike, he was very concerned because after the polygraph, he went over to the trailer with Ronald and says that Ronald went into the closet, pulled out an assault rifle with two banana clip 32 rounds.
BROOKS: And what kind of assault rifle did he say that he had?
HARRIS: You know, he didn`t know the make, I`m assuming something like an AR-15, semiautomatic. Two clips and he said I`m going to blow her teeth to the back of her head and then kill myself and take some others out with me if it turns out she had anything to do with this, Mike.
NG transcript
BRANDON BEARDSLEY, ATTORNEY FOR RONALD CUMMINGS: Yes, sir.
BROOKS: Does he, in fact, have a weapon in his house?
BEARDSLEY: He does not have an assault rifle. That is just — that statement is absolutely ludicrous. You know? No. He does not have an assault rifle. Does he have a pistol, I believe he does. I don`t know. I`ve never searched his house. But I know he didn`t have an assault rifle.
Beretta .45 caliber pistols
http://www.berettahq.com/category/485-Beretta_Pistol_45.aspx
Baretta Mini Cougar .45
This would be small, like the one CJ alleged Ron had during RR2
Unrelated News!!!
5 Arrested in NJ Child Gang-Rape Case
7-Year-Old Sold for Sex by Stepsister; 2 Adults, 3 Boys Charged with Aggravated Sexual Assault
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/03/national/main6360697.shtml?tag=strip
Besides the parents and the 7-year-old, Palmer met with a grandmother, two younger children and other relatives.
“They were understandably upset,” Palmer said. “They felt like they were victims. They said, ‘People are blaming us.’ We need to stop pointing fingers at the family members. These rapists are the problem, not the family.”
Of the girl’s parents, the woman is the mother of the 7-year-old girl, and the man is the father of the 15-year-old. They two have toddlers together.
I wonder what kind of gun CJ has? He admitted having one since he asked the 911 operator if it was okay for him to kill Ron during the RR incident.
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You know some mornings I read the posts from the night before and it’s like watching someone using factory-made patches to try to stitch a quilt together. And I just hate to tell them that there isn’t any thread in the machine.
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Good morning any one around this easter morning?
treece said,
in April 4th, 2010 at 12:04 am
Hollysgmom, so that was a confirmed account of that day? I had heard that story but then I thought it was later confirmed by LE that Ron picked Haleigh up that day. It is so hard to work through this case when we don’t have some of the basic facts correctly. If I am remembering correctly, I think, Vaquera told us here on BNN where it is that LE confirmed Ron picked her up. Am I mixed up on this?
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You’re right, Capt Schauland confirmed on HLN that Ron picked up Haleigh, this was March a year ago. Many of us heard it, TJ confirmed as he was on same show, and I read the transcript that HLN sent someone.
Happy Easter – I just read through the night’s discussions. I remember reading so much about Misty picking Haleigh up that day…including the ugly details about her hitting a young boy in the car and talking loudly about “bad drugs” she had, etc… Was that another day? I thought I read that there were multiple witnesses. I will go back and check. It is hard to trust “LE confirmed” because there are so many stories out there! Thanks.
Ron has a Baretta 9MM and no assault rifle, he has a hunting rifle but no AR 15.
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That story came from Art Harrass and his so called witnesses have changed their story now 3 times, Jerry Santos and his girlfriend.
Ok – thanks Vaquera! I also read that TN picked her up but maybe that was another mis-statement.
Jill, the news that TN picked Haleigh up was truly printed in a transcript from the NG show.
However, NG corrected it later that the stmt was made by Ron instead of TN. So TN never said that it was NG transcript mistake.
Jill we have had so many conflicting stories on this entire case it is hard for any of us to keep what few facts we have straight.
Didn’t Ron tell the UC officer that he had carried a pistol in the past but because of Tim Miller putting that story out about Ron putting the gun in his mouth, he no longer was allowed to have a gun? Also, remember on the police report when Tommy and Ron had their fight, the police report said it was well know fact that Ron carried a gun. They contained him right away for his safety and their safety.
There is too much out about Ron having guns. I would like to know if this is one of his guns that was found. If so, who told them it might be down there? Is someone talking?
That was a strange story from the start about Ron and Cousin Joe having a fight over a gun and the way Misty found it. bbl
Karen, I completely agree. Ever since that story of the gun arguement was brought out and how the gun ws found, I was suspisious
Karon… have you read the article at Gainsville.com
Undercover Cummings, Croslin video released
****Anyone ever see this footage described below, in it’s entirety (It’s redacted, yes I know)?
On Jan. 14, Croslin is in the van, telling the driver to make it look like he’s just giving her a ride. She starts telling him about her brother Tommy Croslin and her mother Lisa Croslin’s court cases on previous charges, saying they “got off easy.”
Forgot… if you’ve seen it… direct me to it… please!! Thanks
Trying to watch the Silver Chalice and Tweet/blog at the same time!! Sorry for leaving this out.
Croslin says she and Cummings had talked about getting married before Haleigh vanished. Afterward, she says there was worry Cummings would face molestation charges because she was 16 when she started seeing him and the two married but divorced soon afterward. Now, she said, she would wait longer in a relationship before she would marry. “I’m scared of ‘I love you,'” she say
Where is CathyJo???? Gawd, I miss her!!!!
M/Cent/15…Don’tchoo miss me when I’m absent??? huh? I’d miss you.
Pink Methinks Panther~~~ of course I miss you!!
Karon Cox said,
in April 4th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Didn’t Ron tell the UC officer that he had carried a pistol in the past but because of Tim Miller putting that story out about Ron putting the gun in his mouth, he no longer was allowed to have a gun? Also, remember on the police report when Tommy and Ron had their fight, the police report said it was well know fact that Ron carried a gun. They contained him right away for his safety and their safety.
There is too much out about Ron having guns. I would like to know if this is one of his guns that was found. If so, who told them it might be down there? Is someone talking?
That was a strange story from the start about Ron and Cousin Joe having a fight over a gun and the way Misty found it. bbl
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Ron had/s his CCL, so he could legally carry a gun. Unless he let his license expire he can still carry(well not right now ;))until either doesn’t renew it or is convicted of a felony.
What gun are you talking about being found? A .45 is not a 9MM like what Ron has..
The gun that is being looked for at the Memorial Bridge search site…..They are looking for a .45 caliber gun and since several of us had been wondering if this gun might be Haleigh related somewhere down the line (It’s been missing since 2007) I was looking to see if anyone surrounding Haleigh had a .45 caliber gun.
Well, it looks like there was at least 1 person with a gun like that. TC stole an antique .45 from the blind neighbor. So was there anyone else who owned a .45? Ron ownes/owns a Baretta, which various models shoot .45 caliber bullets. Proven Fact….Is this bridge .45 the same? Probably not, but just thought we could look to see. Why is it such a problem? I posted various items found online, some may not have come through moderation. Before you criticize, maybe you should really search it out.
If you don’t care which side may ultimately be involved and you only care about getting to the truth….why is it such a problem for ANY link to beresearched? Why is it only a problem if it relates to Ronald Cummings? I just don’t get that….Before you give a pat answer, maybe just mull it over a bit….honestly ask yourself why?
So…
TM says Ron has an assault rifle,
Cobra said he owned one
Misty claims he had one that TC & JO wanted to steal
But Ron says he doesn’t…so by God he doesn’t? We’ll see….
About the CJ RR2 post, I said ALLEGEDLY!!!!
We’ve watched, month after month, as allegations and rumors became known facts…
drugs
stolen guns
Misty’s sexual exploits
allegations of protitution (Nay-Nay & Amber, possibly Misty)
How many more times will it happen? I can’t say for sure, but I’m pretty sure it will happen again.
Forgive me but I was looking on At Harris’ site about the “alleged” failed polygragh of Misty’s and came upon this comment that someone made. I just wonder if the police ever investigated this claim:
J. Smith Says:
March 31st, 2010 at 11:35 pm
At Spinners last night, I met I man who lives in Hermit’s Cove. He told me that a older linclon either silver or white
with a blue half vinyl top past his house late that night. He had never seen it before or since. He is convinced if you find the car you will find the girl. He said the police
never took him serious.
Robin, my gosh! Forgive you for what? Your comment relates to Haleigh’s case!
And it’s a good question. Did LE investigate or not?
Forgive me for being on Art Harris’ site hoping to find “credible” information.(LOL). I always read the comments in section on any article I read (if they have one). You never know what you will find that might lead to locating Haleigh.
Robin, why would you need “forgiveness” for casing Art’s joint? I do it… all I leave comments, read the articles, watch the vid!!
Personally, for me… this whole credibility vs non credibility “war”, lost it’s appeal ages ago. I HAVE and always WILL think for myself, even if that means exploring other writing/reporting/blogging holes.
Robin, do what is best for YOU!!
I was just wondering if anyone that has been investigated in this case, an RSO or SO, has been known to drive this type of car.
Robin, I don’t see a way to find that out. But, perhaps others here may know a way. Maybe someone “local” will help answer your question.
Sorry, I couldn’t help.
I think it would be hard to find a car with that general description, but if a suspect could be found, then maybe they could trace the types of vehicles they have owned (which would be up to LE, since they have access to motor vehicles records). I was just wondering if this car might have rang a bell with anyone posting here.
I have heard there is a MS with a pic of a car like that….will look into it.
Robin, it has (not me btw). We will be looking into it. Possible CS connection? Maybe…
hgmom – see email please
Hollys Gmom said,
in April 4th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
So…
TM says Ron has an assault rifle,
Cobra said he owned one
Misty claims he had one that TC & JO wanted to steal
But Ron says he doesn’t…so by God he doesn’t? We’ll see….
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Ron’s old neighbor told me what kind of rifle it was and it was a deer rifle. Any rifle, unless it’s single shot, could be considered an assault rifle because they all are semi automatics.
Nov 2007 Ron got cited for shooting a deer with a modern rifle because it was black powder season.
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php
Ron’s Baretta was a 9MM not a 45, and the gun Tommy stole was returned to Mr Martin soon after it was taken, by Lisa.
I thought the search was for Volusia county as stated by the State’s Atty?
You can search all you want but I will still be here to correct any misinformation 🙂
Vaquera;
I know what LE has stated about that search. What we were talking about was the fact that this same LE has mislead us about search(es) in the past and could it be true this time also.
YOu have to admit, there has been a lot of issues surrounding guns in this case. Now that LE is searching for a gun under the same bridge that Ronald ALLEGEDLY said he’s hide something, is it too much to just look around to see if it MIGHT be possible that they are related.
Not that Ron killed the Voluisa citizen, just that maybe he had bought a used gun then someone got rid of it there. Not necessarily RON. Is it really a problem for people to question that?
What if the same person who murdered Ms Boehm took Haleigh….Don’t you want to know if there is a connection? You never know.
ALso there was a link I provided that proved that a 9mm Baretta could also fire a .45 caliber bullet.
What if Ron bought a used gun and the guy he got it from saw Haleigh and made a plan? If we don’t know if Ron owned that gun we can’t connect the dots…you see?
If I was seeing dots like that I’d go to the eye doctor.
cent @ 6:36pm You said, “Personally, for me… this whole credibility vs non credibility “war”, lost it’s appeal ages ago. I HAVE and always WILL think for myself.”
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I truly hope everyone does think for themselves. But that’s not the real point to me. I feel very strongly that it is very wrong for anyone, especially self-proclaimed “reporters,” to deliberately write misleading articles – including twisting what facts we have, presenting rumor as fact etc.
That will never be okay with me. If more people objected maybe some of those scumbags would clean up their act or at least have the decency to be ashamed of themselves.
And, not everyone is aware that this happens. As some bloggers have posted here, they had been taking everything they read at face value. After talking about it here, they said they’d had their eyes opened and would be more on the alert for that kind of trickery in future.
I think it’s a very worthwhile topic to mention expecially since that “kind” of “reporting” from those types of “sources” constitutes about 85% – 90% of what’s out there to read on this subject (compared to 15%-10% relatively objective, fact-based reporting).
In other words, cent, I’m not going to shut up about it. I strongly object to it! And I’d like to throw rotten tomatoes at those responsible for it (figuratively speaking of course). 🙂
Never said anyone needed to shut up about it! I simply believe that it does NOT hurt to do your own digging. I also never said that I was okay with misleading articles/facts! I’m just not focusing on it.
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m2c♥ said,
in April 5th, 2010 at 4:20 am
In other words, cent, I’m not going to shut up about it.
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I can’t say that I see anyone here…. waiting/thinking that you’ll ever do that!
LOL, Cent!
You know me so well! I should have known I didn’t need to say that!
🙂
This should be a interesting day Casey goes to court and new jailhouse tapes released on Misty and Ron…
Has anyone been keeping up with the Kayleah Wilson case?
I found her myspace and there was something on there that was very interesting . She posted something Feb 23rd from her mobile.”Wishing someone would leave me alone. Stop telling my friends things to tell me just leave me alone you stalker freak.!!!
Mood: PISSED OFF PISSED OFF ”
I wonder if the cops have pinged her phone?
KYMom, Kayleah did not have a cell. Praying for her to be found safe.
Wonder who she was talking about stalking her. It says it was posted from mobile maybe she was using a friends cell.
Anyone here? Anything of value on the latest video release? Any news?
I have not heard anything on the new videos. I went and checked out Channel 4 news in Jacksonville, but nothing. I hope everyone had a nice Easter. God Bless the missing!
Good Morning lfj! I hope we get some info soon. I can’t watch the vid’s from work so I have to rely on others. Where is everyone this morning?
Mornin’ JB 🙂
I’m only here for an hour; beautiful day here and I am going out to enjoy it as soon as I finish laundry.
*Prayers for Haleigh*
Hello Cathartic. I’m here off and on. It must be a pretty day everywhere because there is no one here! LOL
I can go right now a find all the articles from the first week and can show everyone where the lies began and who started them. In the begining who was doing all the interviews? Who was speaking to known corrupt reporters and even had them in their pockets?
Well, AH is sticking to his story that Misty failed another LDT after writing the letter. Who was it that said that this LDT didn’t happen. It doesn’t appear Tommy has taken his LDT yet per AH on NG. Things are moving slowly and the facts are difficult to get straight…as always….
Hello Tex….so what are you talking about? You lost me! Are you continuing from prior posts? Do I need to go up and read older posts?
The lies began with the 911 call, imo.
Cathartic…what lies? What are we talking about? I guess I need to read prior posts, huh? I’m lost! LOL
Are we talking actual, wanting to mislead “LIES”… or just the “innocent” statements/words… Like Misty saying that *our* daughter is missing?
I am just aggravated that we are arguing about this BS. We all know that the news tells us what everyone involved wants us to hear. Thats why they call it interviews. When the news reports things 90% is left out of the story… we get the sensationalized high lights, not the whole truth based on facts.
We should be looking at the facts that where revealed in the first 24 hours.
cathartic said,in April 5th, 2010 at 11:02 am The lies began with the 911 call, imo.
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I have to ask what in the 911 call indicates Misty is lying?
Has anyone heard anything about when the new jailhouse tapes will be released?
I said, imo.
I don’t believe Misty’s story, so to me the lies started there.
OT, but Kayleah on her myspace claims to be 36 yo?
What arguement? I’m so lost!
KY Mom – the new tapes are released….I think Simon is working on getting copies. We no longer have TJ to get them for us so Simon has to find someone else to pick up the copies.
Ky… I haven’t heard anything about new stuff. I have checked thoroughly (imo) but have come up fruitless… However, I am still looking for these little pieces described here!
*See my posts*
beautiful*adams (cent) said,
in April 4th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
and
beautiful*adams (cent) said,
in April 4th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Everyone wants to exclude sources, but,, IMO we should be looking at all, not for answers, but, for a clear over all picture of the events, people and circumstancesthat are revealed in these questionable sources. NO stone(written word) left unturned, should be our moto. In our position we do not have the clear picture and facts that has been needed to come to a logical conclusion as LE likes to say. What we do have is words and actions of many since this crime was commited.
Statics, LE actions and the behaviors of HaLeighs family are the cause for our confusion, IMO.
No forced entry = No stranger abduction.
No body found near by = all searches called off.
Dangit I need to run and pick up a kid(23) WILL BE RIGHT BACK TO FINISH MY POINT.LOL
JB said,
in April 5th, 2010 at 11:27 am
What arguement? I’m so lost!
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Ditto~~~~
We have few facts. No way would I say no forced entry means no stranger abduction. I am not even sure LE came to that conclusion just based on no force entry.
Everyone involved has not been totally honest, imo. People have things they want to hide, not just in this case, but people in general. It’s easy to sit here and say everyone should have been totally honest, because most of us have info about ourselves and loved ones we want to protect, and if we feel certain info about ourselves is not pertinent, we would protect that info.
However, a child is missing, and there are behaviors exhibited by all in her life that raise eyebrows at the very least.
There have been many lies. There has been much info withheld, and there has been much misleading reporting. None of it will help find Haleigh.
Sad but true.
b*a – phew…I thought it was just me. I didn’t see an arguement and I don’t know what is going on with “when the lies started”, etc….but TexasMom is sure on a roll! LOL I think I’ll just stand back and stay out of the way because I know when I get on a roll it generally ends with me having rabies and being sent to the dog house! 😆
JB… I hear ya! I’ll never understand why a fight HAS to be a brewing! I didn’t see one, but that is just me.
JB
Thanks. I wished someone would go get them.
Is it suppose to be Ron’s call too? because we have heard very little on Ron.
JB
Thanks. I wished someone would go get them.
Is it suppose to be Ron’s calls too?.
Cathartic @ 11:39… I agree, also there are a heck of a lot of lies by omission from all sides!!
Did anyone read the article by Levi P talking about TN’s possible involvement in Haleigh’s disappearance? Any thoughts?
Rome… I have not. Will do right now!
Cathartic… I agree…while I occassionally run quite passionately with a theory, my list of theories remains long. Sometimes a new statement or behavior by one of the key players makes me favor one theory over another….I’m still open to just about anything because so little info is known as fact. All I know is Ron and Misty’s behavior is suspect to me…especially Misty. Nothing about Crystal makes sense to me because I’m a mother and NOTHING about that woman seems normal or maternal. All of the Croslins seem to prefer the “low road” to the “high road” and while small time, are still a criminal clan destined to do time behind bars. Crystal’s family is bizarre at best and VERY creepy. There are so many RSO’s in the area that I can’t write that off as a possibility either. Cuz Joe is very much on my radar as well. The van thing and his past history with Misty still keep that theory high on my list.
I can’t rule anything out or anything in at this point. Too little to go on. But sadly the majority of my theories lead to Haleigh no longer being with us. 😥
Rome – I can’t stomach Levi…sorry….but I’m open to listen to your interpretation if you care to share! 😀
KY Mom – Ron is in a different facility so I believe the only ones being released are for Misty and Tommy. The facility Ron is at hasn’t released anything new since the beginning. Maybe they couldn’t stomach hearing anymore about Ron’s dirty boxer shorts either! 😆
Do reporters not think before they say something? Why does it all have to be about ratings? I do not like hearing someone failed every question on a polygraph if there is no proof there even WAS a polygraph taken. And if LE does a poly, they tend to not release the results to the media. This guessing-game by reporters all trying to one-up each other is irritating, and it might even be detrimental to the case should it ever go to trial. I am tired of hearing embellished versions of everything from reporters…and I think keeping Haleigh in the news is more important than listing what Misty bought from canteen, etc.
There is a lot about Misty that is being accurately reported, but there is an awful lot that is just opinion; unfortunately when it is opinion of a news reporter too many people take it as fact. We here can think for ourselves, but a lot of people read news articles or websites, etc., and believe what they read just because it is there.
I wanted to be outdoors playing but now it has clouded up and become quite windy. We do need rain, though.
Could someone please tell me where to go to read the Levi Article on the possible involvement of TN?
Looking: I posted it… it went away?
examiner.com Nashville-Crime-Examiner Haleigh-Cummings-grandmother-involved-in-disappearance
You can Google for many such articles, lfj. And not just about TN, about any of them. All are just opinions, of course. They are based on weird behaviors, and they all have exhibited that.
I think we need to accept that what they sometimes do or say is normal behavior for them. We see it as abnormal (and some of it clearly is abnormal) but a lot of it is just how they live and have always lived. And much of it is taken out of context, as well.
I want facts. And we rarely seem to get that.
Tapes are redacted (necessary, I am sure) but doing that DOES tend to put things out of context to the point where even an innocent statement can be misinterpreted, imo.
Thanks a bunch BA. I am going to read it now. I hope all is well with you.
I’m not saying for sure that this is how Haleigh died. Some have argued, including TN, that Haleigh would not have taken Oxy because it would have tasted bitter. However, according to actual events that took place in the article below, it is possible:
“PITTSBURGH
A Burgettstown mother and her Oakdale friend are facing charges in connection with the drug-related death of the woman’s 16-month-old girl, who apparently took an Oxycodone pill after waking up from a nap. WXAE”
JB,
Levi’s article basically said that TN’s behavior is just as suspicious as Ron and Misty’s and if what he is saying is true I would have to agree. Here is the link.
http://www.examiner.com/x-33505-Nashville-Crime-Examiner~y2010m3d30-Haleigh-Cummings-grandmother-involved-in-disappearancess the artilce on youtube.
If you read more in the article it explains that the child stopped breathing.
I also heard part of the new tapes. Hank is getting down on Misty about not getting into certain criminal actions, but that she didn’t listen and did things her own way. He went on to say there was no use crying over spilled milk. She began to cry. Then her and her dad blame whoever took Haleigh for ruining their lives. Which is ridiculous, because it’s the on-video drug sales that have her in jail.
Looking, I am making, how are you?
Shock,
Yes I saw that part… I am now thinking that theses tapes are just days apart. Yes her hairstyle changes, but Hank “magic man” Sr. is still/always working that freakin yellow shirt.
I think I was trying to say, I am making it!
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=154169
Timed-release tablets are more dangerous because they do not have a taste and also because the effects are not immediate, so a person might not be aware when a child swallowed a pill. There might be no symptoms for hours, then the child might suddenly go into cardiac arrest.
That’s what happened to a two-year-old in an article I read recently. The mom was then able to pinpoint when the child may have ingested the pill to four hours earlier, when the mom had turned away just for a minute to answer a knock at the door.
Five-year-olds might not purposely swallow pills as readily as two-year-olds, but it does happen. I kept all meds in a locked box after my daughter ate a whole bottle of aspirin at age 4. The bottle had been stored well out of her reach at the time, too.
Sometimes when people are lying they will overemphasize their answers. For example: Casey A. saying that she knows “in her gut” that Caylee is alive. Which we now know was untrue. I do not see MC overemphasizing like this in the videos I have seen. What do you guys think?
BA – Hank Sr. may have no other “nice” shirt. Sad, but possibly true.
And you have to think that Haleigh more than likely watched her daddy, Crystal and Misty take these pills. Probably has seen her uncles, aunts and grandparents take pills too. Probably heard the adults in her life talk about wanting to “score” some pills…knew these people she looked up to REALLY wanted them and seemed to enjoy taking them. It would not be far fetched to think of her trying to mimic those adults around her….whether the pill tasted nasty or not would not be the point. Heck, my older brother actually got me to take an entire box of laxative when I was little with very little prompting. LOL
Shockwave – the only thing I see Misty over emphasizing is how much she thinks/talks about Haleigh. She goes on and on and on about that but it always seems after someone else’s prompting and then she just rambles on and on about it. But it seems very superficial. You don’t see her talking about the good times she had with Haleigh or thinking back on cute things she said or did. It is always in response to something that was said about her not thinking or talking about Haleigh.
Even the time she asked for pictures of Haleigh and Jr seemed like it had more to do with wanting a picture of Ron moreso than of the kids and only after NG had discussed how Misty never talks about Haleigh. It just doesn’t seem sincere to me.
I thought there was over-emphasis on the blankets, but that’s JMO.
Doing well BA. The article was a good article. I did not know that Teresa did not actually live in Pomona Park and was no longer a dispatcher in Alachua at the time of Haleighs disappearance. Perhaps she was with a boyfriend close by. I do not even want to think the grandmother may be involved. I watched the little video after the article. It gives reason to be suspicious about Ron knowing something.
I know that some children are too mature for putting things in their mouth at six, but some aren’t. In light of knowing Haleigh has Turner Syndrome, we know she could have been somewhat developmentally challenged, read below:
“Other Effects Turner Syndrome Can Have
A number of other health problems occur more often in girls with Turner syndrome, including kidney problems, high blood pressure….. Some girls with the condition may experience learning difficulties, particularly in math. Many have a difficult time with tasks that require skills such as map reading or visual organization.” ~kidshealth.org
JB – I totally agree with you on the pill taking and her immediate role models. I use to watch “Sex in the City”. I would put another DVD on for my daughter in another room during this time, but she would come into the room from time to time. One day she was playing and was mimicking smoking ciggs. I asked her where she picked that up from (none of her family smokes), and she told me she saw the girl on TV doing it. It does not take much for children to catch on to what those around them are doing, or for them to think it is the norm.
I never said fight… I said argue. The topic of most conversations at the moment is over what media source is wrong or right and who is credible or not. It is again a distraction from finding HaLeigh. Since day one someone/everyone has derailed the efforts and objective and that was to find HaLeigh. How many have wanted to be considered the victim instead of HaLeigh? Start from day one and make a list and take note who is at the top.
Looking @ 1:12… was this the uncut vid version? I can’t go back and check at the moment. But I didn’t like what I was seeing/hearing.
Shock… it may be his only “good” shirt. That is what I meant by, it’s pretty difficult to tell when the footage was shot!
Excuse me… argue NOT fight!!! Guess I’m out the running for credibility/accuracy!
cathartic said,in April 5th, 2010 at 11:39 am We have few facts. No way would I say no forced entry means no stranger abduction. I am not even sure LE came to that conclusion just based on no force entry.
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That is exactly what they did say. Go look again please.
Texas..LOL…girl, you are STILL talking in riddles and I SUCK at riddles! LOL
I don’t know what the facts are and since 99% of the info we get is from the media it is anyone’s guess what the facts are at this point. We take what we get and we do our best to make sense of it.
I just read the article at Levi’s about Teresa Neves. So does ANYONE know FOR A FACT where she lived at the time of Haleigh’s disappearance? Was it 200 miles away or 15 miles away? Big difference. I agree her showing up with the 8 X 10 pic of Haleigh, wearing the police jacket and telling LE she still works for LE if she didn’t is very suspect. But I don’t know if ANY of that is true! Did she in FACT tell LE she STILL worked for LE and she truly didn’t, did she lie about where she lived at that point and what PROOF does anyone have of what she said/did being a lie? Before I jump all over this article of Levi’s and start forming opinions that TN is involved…I would like to know it is based on fact. I’m a little gun-shy when it comes to Levi….to say the least.
LOL I have been on a roll.
http://www.bloggernews.net/124198#comment-1564642
All morning and now afternoon.
Where is this article on TN?
JB, Sorry not meaning to sound irrational to you. Just feel that everyones focus is now on irrelivant items (including LP and his opinion of TN) and we are no longer working towards finding the truth.
I will go to the dog house and stay a while, since I am so tired off chasing my tail with the rest of y’all.
JB,
I don’t know how much of the info in Levi’s article is true. I wish we knew more. I wish we had Cobra or TJ to ask.
Texas – No need to go to the dog house! I just wasn’t sure what you were upset about. I didn’t even see any arguements so I was lost. I think everyone finds these little snippets of info (like this Levi article) and they try to verify the info as fact or fiction which can be difficult to do. These articles are all we have to go on really (and unfortunately). I know it seems like we’re chasing our tails but we don’t get any info from LE obviously, the tapes are slow to be released and even when they are we only see the unredacted parts which can be misleading….all we have is CRAP to work with basically and we’re doing the best we can.
If what Levi says in his article is true, then it definitely raises an eyebrow. I just have NO idea if what he says IS true or how I can verify any of it. Without some verification I’m not ready to hang TN from any tree. It would be nice if we could trust what we see written as fact. Unfortunately not even in the mainstream media do we get the truth. It is all hype and all about the ratings. Someone, ANYONE, PLEEEAASSSEEEE give us the FACTS!
Move over Tex…I’m joining you in the dog house! 😉
So I found the article. Did Tn really give MC a family ring? It looks like that would be something that you would save for your granddaughter.
Ron behavior is also suspicious Always giving Misty a heads up (The Donna Brock thing and then telling how LE wanted him to tell Misty he loved her and so forth to get info about Haleigh .Why would he do that I don’t understand.?. Please someone explain this to me.
LOL I’ll bring SCOOBIE snacks.
Romewi – I haven’t found Levi to be overly credible in the past and that is why I rarely go there to read. If this were an article on CNN I’d still want some proof but I’d be much more inclined to believe the contents of the article. I’m just considering the source and nothing personal against Levi but I WOULD like it verified what TN told LE (did she lie about where she worked and where she lived) and where she was that night that allowed her to get there so quickly. If I had that info confirmed somehow I’d be apt to believe his article and would probably result in me adding yet one more theory to my already overwhelming list of theories. But I need some proof first….It is the same with what AH writes. I want some proof because both AH and Levi tend to embelish (and I’m trying to be polite! LOL). Their article contain WAY to much opinion. If I want opinion, I come here to share them. When I read an article, I want fact..NOT opinion.
KY Mom – I don’t have proof that anything in Levi’s article is true. That’s what I mean…I have no way to verify any of it and I have seen some things he has written in the past be disproven. So I’m hesitant to put too much faith in this latest article about TN. At least here at BNN if it is speculation it is stated as such. If it is unverified then Simon and Jan note that. If it is fact they state it as such. I don’t have to “guess” and figure out if what I’m reading is opinion or fact. IF it is all true then we have a WHOLE new direction to look in. BUT, since LE hasn’t seemed to look in that direction I have to question the validity of Levi’s “facts”. Not that LE couldn’t miss something but good grief, the FBI and other entities have been involved. I would think they would have followed up on these types of things….but JMO…I can’t verify that they did though. Heck, I can’t verify anything and THAT is the problem. 😥
Hey Tex…toss me a scoobie snack. 😀
Hi everyone
Any news on when the new tapes are coming?
tia
Texasmommy, LE said no forced entry right away. But they were still treating this as an abduction. LE did not say no stranger abduction until later.
As for your post regarding everyone wanting to derail the investigation from the beginning, I agree with that. It is difficult for us to figure out what’s what if everyone involved is doing/saying things that look suspicious.
I know ppl lie, especially when they believe the truth will get them into trouble. My biggest issue with lyinhg is the reporters saying things that are not backed up with proof, or citing their source but not naming the source of the info they are reporting. It stinks, and it certainly does not help the victim in this case–Haleigh.
JB
That is my problem too. Maybe these new tapes will shed some light on things, But I doubt it since there hasn’t been an arrest.But something about the lie detector might be on there. I think Art gets alot of his info from Lindsy. She has always told Art info from the beginning. Weather its true or not is another story.
I honestly don’t think TN is involved she is the only one I have seen cry real tears but that is my opinion … I hope Haleigh is found soon.
Aside from the Anthony case has anyone else witnessed this type of behavior in a missing childs case?
I trust none!!!
Texas Mom
No I haven’t . Why aren’t the families out looking for her? I have not seen one person from either side search for Haleigh.. That is crazy.
KY mom – I know AH gets info from Lindsey but I suspect she lies too to benefit the family so I don’t think I’d put a great deal of faith into anything she says. None of these family members have done what was best for Haleigh. They are all too busy covering their own backsides due to all of their criminal behavior. SURELY, they could go to LE and say look, I lied because I did something that would get me in trouble…if you give me immunity for those crimes I’ll tell you what I know. But that doesn’t appear to happen with these folks. Haleigh is an after thought instead of being a top priority. I believe that was the case before her disappearance and it hasn’t changed.
Texas…no, I thought I had seen it all in the Anthony case. But her lies were so obvious they slapped you in the face. With these people, I think their years of criminal activities have taught them to be better liars and while they do it with the same ease as Casey does, they are better at it. You still know or suspect they are lying but they cover their tracks MUCH better than she did…IMHO
KY…I’ve seen Ron cry “real tears” too but I still suspect him. TN shedding some tears doesn’t clear her IMO….they could be tears of guilt or she KNOWS Haleigh is dead (by accident or other means). So tears mean nothing to me but TN still isn’t at the top of my suspect list….at least not until someone can prove to me the info in Levi’s article. Now, if someone CAN prove that info, then she will be in my line of fire. I have so many suspects now I’d need a shotgun loaded with buckshot to hit them all! 😆
b*a…you don’t even trust me? *chin quivering* WAAHHHHHHH! LOL
In the beginning of the Caylee case I felt sorry for Cindy. She was then just the grandmother of a missing child, and she was sincerely concerned. She is, however, a good example of what happens when family members figure what’s done is done–we can’t bring her back now, so now let’s do what we can to point suspicion elsewhere and possibly lessen the consequences. At that point it isn’t about the real victim anymore. It’s about CYA and damage control.
JMO.
JB
Why didn’t any of Haleigh’s family go look for her?
Look at the Susan Powell case she is an adult and you see her family (all except for her husband)are trying to get a search group together so they can go look for her in the dessert. Also look at the Gabriel Johnson case his dad has not stopped searching for him.
They are all searching for their loved ones because they didn’t have anything to do with their disappearance.
Then you have the anthony’s CA and GA and Casey they didn’t look for Caylee because they knew she was dead.
And Ronald hasn’t looked for Haleigh. Why because he knows what happened to her.
I think everyone knows what happened to Haleigh including LE but they need evidence. I just can’t figure out what the strong bond is that is keeping anyone from breaking. I’d be going crazy looking for my child if missing.
The strong bond would be… not wanting to do life!!
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in April 5th, 2010 at 3:03 pm The strong bond would be… not wanting to do life!!
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I agree but I think other people know something and aren’t stepping up.
BA
True… They can’t rat the other one out without getting themselves involved.
I use to think that Ron married Misty trying to find out info from her. But I no longer think that.I think he knows something .
Romewi… I believe that too. And I hate to bring it up… but if there were NO side shows, I think some folks probably would have yapped, and we would be on another case (unfortunately)!
Ky @3:08, I never believed that. It’s always been about sex with a minor. While I do believe that he loves his children, I do not believe Ron’s spewing to his mother that this is for HaLeigh!
cathartic…I felt sorry for Cindy too…until she opened her mouth! LOL Her true feelings were expressed in the 911 call…after that it was truly CYA! You’ve got that EXACTLY right and Haleigh’s family is in the exact same mode.
KY mom – I’ve always wondered that. No one in the family really did diddly to look for Haleigh and that is very telling to me. Obviously these people are not “normal” as you and I think of normal so some of their actions, while foreign to us, may be “normal” for them. But NOTHING explains their lack of searching OR the majority of their words and actions. Their upbringing, lack of education, drug use….none of that explains the things they’ve done and said and it makes them all look very guilty.
Romewi – that could be why LE says Misty is the key. Perhaps you are right and LE does know what happened but needs Misty to confess. Maybe they see her as the weakest link in this ugly chain of criminals. And I’m with you! If my child went missing I don’t care what anyone told me I would be out checking every field, every house, every river, you name it and I would not stop until my child was found. And if I DID have an addiction such as drugs I think my child going missing would certainly be an incentive to get my act together for Pete’s sake! Not so with this bunch! They probably hung up Missing posters for Haleigh with a message at the bottom for drug sales! “MISSING – HALEIGH CUMMINGS…Oh, and if you need some Oxy’s or Roxie’s…please call Ron and Misty Cummings” SHEEESSSHHH!
b*a…you got that right! That is what I’ve said. They’ll deal with the drug charges and keep their mouth shut because that is a LOT better than facing murder charges….and THAT is enough to seal their lips for good. After all, this bunch has a long history of criminal behaviors and covering for one another….it is almost instinctual for these people to cover for each other!
See ya guys in about 1 1/2 hrs.
Why would Misty throw Tommy under the bus but yet Tommy isn’t talking about what he knows? He must know something. Any thoughts?
Romewi…I don’t know…I’ve tried to figure that out. Maybe he doesn’t know what happened or maybe she knows he fears Ron…or maybe she’s got a WHOLE lot of info on him that he knows will get him in trouble. Misty loves Ron more than she loves anyone else in her family. And I think she fears Ron too. He certainly has a hold on her and she seems to comply with his every wish. I don’t think Misty thinks about the long term effect of her words and actions. She seems to live in the moment and so throwing Tommy under the bus may have seemed like a good idea at the time but if it is all a lie it could cost HER dearly instead of him. She flies by the seat of her pants from what I can tell. No long term plans or goals. Just seems to make it all up as she goes along which I think she learned from her parents. “So what if we don’t have food in the house…we’ll just wait for dark and go steal it from someone else’s house!” They all seem to think that way!
WHERE ARE THE TAPES? lol
Okay, looks like I’m all alone again…so just for grins, giggles and discussion….here are a few of my MANY theories….
1. Accidental OD – Ron and Misty (perhaps others in on cover-up.
2. RSO abduction – but doesn’t explain Ron and Misty’s bizarre behavior.
3. Crystal’s family abduction – again..this just doesn’t explain Ron and Misty’s behavior.
4. Cuz Joe abduction – could happen…but again it doesn’t explain Ron and Misty’s behaviors.
5. Drug Thug abduction – Ron and Misty, possibly Tommy know about it…know who took her…but fear for their lives so keep quiet. Could explain their behaviors.
And another point to ponder. If Misty now says that Tommy and Joe came over to steal a gun and Misty couldn’t find it because it wasn’t in its usual place, would that mean she was helping them steal it? That goes against everything Misty has done and said thus far. She is loyal to Ron and I think she would fear him if it came up missing. So that story doesn’t hold water for me. And Tommy and Joe wanted the gun for what reason? To sell? And they came together but Tommy leaves first and Joe sticks around and leaves later…with Haleigh? On foot? That makes no sense either. And if Joe was mad because there wasn’t a gun to steal…what would be the reason for taking Haleigh? To sell? And why would Misty keep this story to herself all this time? What is the motive? She hasn’t had any problem pointing the finger at family for other crimes. This latest version of that night doesn’t make a lick of sense to me and stinks to high heaven of Misty trying to cover her own a$$. With every word she utters I become more convinced SHE KNOWS what happened to Haleigh but because of either her involvement or fear she won’t tell.
Hey KY…sorry…thought I was all alone…I’ll stop singing…and making posts to myself going on and on about my theories! LOL
I think the tapes were to be picked up today. I don’t know if Simon found someone in the area to do that task for him or not. Oh SIMONNNNNN?????
Shewwww… They know all of us Bloggers are dieing to see those tapes. lol
I wished someone would pick them up… Art and Nancy must not have got their hands on them either because tonight is about the Kayleah Wilson. Which is an odd case also .. Who lets their 12 year old date a 17 year old. No wait who lets their 12 year old date period.
I can only wonder what Fields believes regarding Misty’s involvement with Haleigh going missing. It might be that he truly believes her, and maybe with good reason. Or, he might think she is guilty but there is no evidence to prove it. If he really believes she is innocent, I would like to see him have her questioned under sodium pentathol or something similar. I am not sure that chemical is used anymore, but it used to be used often, and quite effectively.
If Misty is innocent, would she not be all for doing this? And if Fields believes in her, would he not be in favor of it as well?
Just some rhetoricals here, since he is the only one who can really answer that.
I guess I AM alone….boo hoo…..I’d sing again but the dogs haven’t stopped howling from my first attempt at singing….
It looks like Art would get Lindsy to pick them up for him.lol
cathartic….I’d like to use truth serum on ALL of these people. No telling what we’d find out but I bet it would be about more than Haleigh going missing. There are more crimes in this family tree than their are limbs!
I don’t think it matters to Fields (or any defense attorney) whether they believe in their client’s innocence. It is all about getting their client cleared or the best possible deal. It often looks like they could care less what the facts (or the truth) is. But I guess that is their job (and the reason I don’t care for defense attorneys! LOL)
KY – we laugh but that is probably how AH does get his tapes! LOL
One would have to wonder how good the info would be coming from a family member and what their motives might be to twist the “facts” to suit them. You would think AH would want to verify any info he gets from Lindsey but he just seems to report it as the gospel.
Gotta go all. Good night.
JB,
I totally agree with your 11:55 & 11:56 posts.
cathartic said,in April 5th, 2010 at 1:00 pm I kept all meds in a locked box after my daughter ate a whole bottle of aspirin at age 4. The bottle had been stored well out of her reach at the time, too.
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When I was about 4, my mother kept meds in the top kitchen cupboard. Somehow, I was able to get myself onto the counter top, get up into that cupboard, and split a bottle of baby aspirin between myself, and my baby brother and sister! But that stuff tasted good…don’t think I would have gone to the effort for a bitter pill
Shockwave said,in April 5th, 2010 at 1:02 pm Sometimes when people are lying they will overemphasize their answers. For example: Casey A. saying that she knows “in her gut” that Caylee is alive. Which we now know was untrue. I do not see MC overemphasizing like this in the videos I have seen. What do you guys think?
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I agree…if I had to put money on it, I’d say she doesn’t know anything (except that perhaps she left the house).
me,
This was also baby aspirin, orange flavored. I hid the bottle on the top shelf of a linen closet but she apparently climbed up the shelves like a ladder, got the child-proof cap open, and helped herself. Then recapped the bottle and put it back. I never knew until the next time I went to get the bottle and there was only 3 left.
Some pills are not bitter these days. With the coating they put on them for easy swallowing there is no taste at all. And sometimes these pain killers come in a rainbow of pretty colors.
I won’t say Haleigh helped herself to oxies or roxies but also can’t totally rule it out.
Actually, I may be one of the few remaining citizens that has not ruled out stranger abduction yet. I would go with that for my first (and perhaps only) theory, if it were not for the odd behaviors of so many of Haleigh’s family members.
My incident was with the orange flavored too! My mother was very shaken when she discovered what I’d done…but thankfully we were all ok.
It’s one of the reasons I don’t buy this “Haleigh couldn’t reach the lock” stuff…i think it’s possible that a determined child of her age could open it if she wanted to.
I think an accidental o.d. is a possibility but it’s at the very bottom of my list. I also think there’s a real chance a SO, registered or not, did it. But the Sheffield/Griffis are still at the very top of my list.
That’s a small community, basically surrounded by woods and water, mostly rural setting. I think most of the people there know each other at least by name. So stranger abduction might still be someone who knew them, or knew their name, but was not a friend or associate. Usually those are pedophiles, and that seems very likely in this case given the lack of supervision of the kids so much of the time. Anyone watching would have noticed the kids’ vulnerability, imo.
Yep….and there were so many RSOs living close by too. I do hope LE has properly investigated all of them, but it seems they haven’t as they were basically the first ones cleared.
me!
What bothers me currently is the ankle bracelet Snodgrass has apparently has malfunctioned. Otherwise they would know he was at the HB Center. If it didn’t register that he was there, after a number of eye-witnesses said it was him, then it must not work correctly.
And if his doesn’t work correctly, might other RSOs be wearing defective ankle monitors?
I don’t think Haleigh unlocked the door and went out. It could have already been open and she went out. But I doubt she planted that cinderblock so even if she could have unlocked the deadbolt, I don’t think she did that night.
Sorry, I should not have said “other RSOs” in my 6:32 post. DS is not a RSO.
But my point is still the same.
I would think they are. Plus, the 2 closest RSOs to Haleigh’s home didn’t have any sort of monitors.
LE claims to have investigated them all. They said many of them came forward on their own to clear their names. And, all homes in the area were thoroughly searched per LE.
I am thinking we might never know what happened to Haleigh.
I agree. It’s been almost 15 months and they don’t seem to have gotten anywhere. I doubt LE will solve it…but hopefully she will surface, alive and well, some day soon.
Ky mom said,
in April 5th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
JB
Why didn’t any of Haleigh’s family go look for her?
Look at the Susan Powell case she is an adult and you see her family (all except for her husband)are trying to get a search group together so they can go look for her in the dessert. Also look at the Gabriel Johnson case his dad has not stopped searching for him.
They are all searching for their loved ones because they didn’t have anything to do with their disappearance.
Then you have the anthony’s CA and GA and Casey they didn’t look for Caylee because they knew she was dead.
And Ronald hasn’t looked for Haleigh. Why because he knows what happened to her.
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actually Connie Sheffield posted her over a week ago and said Ron and the rest of the family did search for Haleigh.
I think Crystal went on one night time search by boat in the very beginning and that is the only time I heard her search at all.
no way can you shoot a .45 out of a 9mm gun,bullet is too fat.
http://www.restlessadventurer.net/guns/caliber.php
OHHH MY a whole week of searching when his child is missing. I didn’t see it on the news. And even if it was I believe instead of planning a wedding I would be putting a neighborhood search party together to look for Haleigh.
Nothing in this case makes sense.
Misty- she got up to go to the bathroom on the other side of the trailer and noticed the door was open? Ohhh wait no she was thirsty an and needed a drink of water and went to the kitchen and noticed to door opened. She waited for minutes to call the 911. (I guess maybe she was hurrying to get all the drugs out of the mobile home. Failed LD test. Who knows how many times.
Ron- he gets married while child has been missing for short time and gets a tattoo. Then he tells Misty what to say the Morning show. Then when Tim Miller I believe hires and undercover person to get info from Misty . Ron blows her cover. (WHY?) Then in jailhouse tapes he tells how LE wants him to tell Misty he loves her to get info from her Ron then tells his Mom and tapes that he knows are going to get released to the Media.
Ky mom at 3:42 am “OHHH MY a whole week of searching when his child is missing. I didn’t see it on the news. And even if it was I believe instead of planning a wedding I would be putting a neighborhood search party together to look for Haleigh.”
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I don’t think you know much about this case yet so I’d recommend toning it down until you do. If you saw that wedding you’d know that no more than 1 -2 hours went into the planning of it so that’s got nothing to do with anything.
AND LE called a halt to the searches, sent Texas EquuSearch home AND told the families to stop searching.
And I’m really tired of the “if this was my child” BS. It’s irrelevant. You don’t live there. You don’t know what those cops are like or what they or the FBI told the families or have threatened or anything else.
R searched and members of the family went on TV to plead for Haleigh’s return and if it isn’t enough to suit you, well nothing could be less important, frankly. And it definitely does not prove anyone’s guilt.
I’ve been following this case from the beginning thank you very much.
The police can’t make you stop searching for your child.lol
I guess you think the police did something to Haliegh?
Opinions are like assholes everyone has one.
Ohh yeah Didn’t Susan Smith get on TV and plea for her children. And so did GA and CA knowing their loved ones were dead……And I think failing LD test and pointing the finger at every Tom, Dick and Harry is a sign of guilt. Okay if Haleigh was in another room and went missing I can see why MC would not have know anything but Haleigh was in the same room with her. A couple of feet away.
MC2
I was typing to JB not you .lol
Ky Mom – I realize you weren’t talking to me. I just wanted to point out that I think it’s kind of bogus for people to say “I’d have done this or that” especially in this situation
Why not speculate on what you (or anyone) would have done for the past three years if they were C (bio-mom)? That’s a little more realistic thing to think about. Would you be a two weekend a month deadbeat mom on drugs pregnant with another child? But of course that’s R’s fault too I’m sure. To some people it would not matter what R did or didn’t do, they would find fault with it somehow.
To reply in kind I would have to tell you which orifice I think your spewing your opinion from and maybe throw in a few descriptors that must be the reason for your attitude. So to avoid that I just won’t reply. Some people don’t even want to be open-minded or realistic. They just want to spew. Ask JB for some Depends will you so the blog doesn’t get too messy. Have a great day.
m2c♥, morning are you still around?
Ky Mom… didn’t you see the photos of Ronnie boy on those horses? I can say without a doubt NO ONE could keep me from searching for my child!!
Prince Charming he… ain’t!
Have the police ever really look at mistys family (Mother, Stepdad,etc) they seem like real creeps there was a comment on youtube between “TheCroslinFamily and one of there friends, talking like real low lifes saying they hate N*gger’s and saying “I bet N*ggers took haliegh and raped her up the butt”,….I was really disgusted and they said to a bunch of commenters on a comment board “Why dont you people get a life instead of living your life vigorously threw dead children”,..Which kinda surprised me and a Shot back saying “Dead? Hmm, Who said the little girl was dead, do you know somthing we don’t?” ,…they dont know how to type and there very uneducated, have the time i dont even know what they are saying….
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