This is another jail house tape between Misty Croslin and her father Hank Croslin. Misty is claiming her innocence, and also now declaring that the ‘Cuz Joe did it’ came to her in a dream.
Hank Croslin makes the interesting observation that Ronald Cummings should never have had custody of the children in the first place.
There are also references to the now infamous Misty letter, Hank admonishes Misty for writing it in the first place.
There are also some references to Lisa Croslin and her problems. Husband Hank is not sure that it is worth her doing the community service or paying the current fines, because she is likely going to end up in jail anyway because of the new charges. “Might as well just let her do time for it allâ€. Oh what a loving husband.
Quote of the day from Hank:
Crooked ass cops
Nancy Grace also takes a bit of a beating in this exchange.
You can watch the conversation here.
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI am going to blog about Hank not being able to get hired for some sort of job around there.
Wasn’t there a dream in the Simpson case too?
Lynny, he seems to have pain from injuries sustained in the auto accident, and talks on at least one of the tapes about needing surgeries.
He’s a skilled dry-wall hanger, but probably can’t do that again until after he mends. He mentioned being able to wash dishes in a restaurant . . .
Hank probably isn’t going to work as a drywaller Hanger. There is very little construction in the area right now.
Does anyone else get dizzy from the contant spinning of the stories By Misty and Tommy?
I feel only Misty and Tommy were involved in the act of whatever happened to Haleigh, but other players have knowledge of what happened to her. (ex.Cousin Joe, Timmy and Chelsey)
Just my gut feeling… I hope im wrong and that shes actually alive be hidden by Crystal’s immediate family somewhere.
Coop, I doubt he can physically hang dry wall until he can get his back and knee fixed.
I admire your willingness to help him.
Misty got the Nancy Grace show right!
Misty has lied but is covering saying it was dream. This way she is minimalizing her lie. Her lawyer is getting fed up with the lies and her not listening to him and sending letters out with lies in them.
Misty knows the truth, in the beginning it was a lie so she wouldnt go to jail, now it is a lie so she doesnt have to stay in jail.
How hard can it be to just tell the truth about your events of the evening to match up with the evidence?jmo
Sounds as though Misty really is reading the Holy Bible, and trying to live what she’s learning from it.
Very good, as she is beginning the age range of more moral/ethical development.
I wonder if she propped the door open herself. Makes me wonder because she said that she didn’t have a key to the trailer.
@ Polllly
That popped in my mind immediately. If she didnt have a key to get back inside the house, and she left the kids alone while she went to party. I can see someone coming in and taking Haleigh. The thing is, who had knowledge nobody was home and knew the kids were inside the house alone?
Joe?
I’m anxious to see OJ’s take on all this.
^^^eh sorry forgot to finish my thought
Joe?
Crystal’s immediate family?
LE is getting ready to make another move soon. I just don’t think would search the river on either one’s say so. That is a lot of resources. There had to be some kind of physical evidence thought to be in that river.
Why do these people always say if someone is mad that they will get over it. They dont really see anyone staying mad at them. Misty and Tommy have done all this to themselves and have involved other people in their lies. Lindsy is not going to get over it this time and if she does she deserves a swift kick in the butt by her parents and grand dad. jmo
Todd,
I heard on a tape with JS.said he saw Misty was out and about that night,with somebody riding in a car.
My heart breaks for Misty. She had an awfully disadvantaged childhood and needed a break. What is wrong with society that we do this to teenagers that make mistakes? So sad.
Nancy Grace also takes a bit of a beating in this exchange
BRING IT ON~
tobias said,in May 23rd, 2010 at 12:02 pm Why do these people always say if someone is mad that they will get over it. They dont really see anyone staying mad at them. Misty and Tommy have done all this to themselves and have involved other people in their lies. Lindsy is not going to get over it this time and if she does she deserves a swift kick in the butt by her parents and grand dad. jmo
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I can’t get over it Tobias,that drives me crazy as well as ,it’s goina be alright and thats BS!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
me said,in May 23rd, 2010 at 3:16 pm My heart breaks for Misty. She had an awfully disadvantaged childhood and needed a break. What is wrong with society that we do this to teenagers that make mistakes? So sad.
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Maybe they wouldn’t if she’d tell the truth once and for all!
Haleigh was even younger and nobody seems to wanna be honest!
$140.00 in her acct and Hank didn’t have 10? they’re better off than their dad and give him torment!
Ok Guys,
something isn’t right here,I think maybe ron and Teresa should have been looked at alot closer,I believe Misty when she says she called and called,but when she opened the door there ronald was? then Tn makes it over there lickety split,now imagine what Grandmother wouldn’t babysit if asked unless she had a grand ball appt maybe,Maybe thats why she wouldn’t babysit that night,because Misty had left ron and tn knew they “were up talking all night”.ron has Teresa on his chest,not “MOM”
That would explain AS sighting after 9 days wasn’t it?
Misty says she listened to them because she loved Ronald so much and went along with them!
Remember Tn couldn’t say better things about Misty at 1st!
something ain’t right and I am really starting to wonder if Misty is innocent?
who knows TN didnt sit with his phone by his work?
cricket
ok i went to look and cobra said that feb 2009. interview with ron was march 2009 then cobra said she wasnt home later on.
because they set Misty up?
we heard her say,Think she’ll talk?
maybe ron called and couldn’t get her,so he called tn too?? Maybe Misty was gone and doesn’t know but Ron knew he had it made and stuck by Misty cause she was 31 suspect!
something isn’t right here,all this talk and Misty doesn’t appear to be lying,to me?? this is getting more real now,somethings way off!
why’d you bail on the chatroom cathy?
and this is the perfect family to blame right?
i am really bugged right now!
why’d you bail on the chat cat?
they had been talking so much to her,even she says that,it made her dream things,think things,but she is as confused as we are?????
The sound OJ! Was echoingggggggggg LOUD!
are you hangemhigh? lol
ron and tn prolly planned the bs!
read it..and turn the sound down.
i am really aggravated right now,theyve got to look at others,I am telling you,i believe Misty now!!
CathyJo,
I’m far from “convinced beyond a reasonable doubt” that Misty is lying to LE.
LE seems all over the place….according to Hank they are now buying the Nay Nay letter story. It seems to me LE are relying on junkies’ stories, rather than investigating this case. They don’t even have enough to charge her with lying to police…so, yep, I’m far from convinced.
ohhhh,lmao omgggggggggggg duh!!!!!!!!!
i aint right! you know that,i never thought of it once.but i’m aggravated too!
cathy jo
did u see this bizarre artical TN leads cobra in the woods? she new it was searched 3 times before – cobra said he was set up but why?
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/27/haleigh-cummings-case-gramma-neves-snakes-and-hogpens/
I beleieve her ME,I do,you can just see it,hear it,she is imo innocent! she’s a little girl?? theyre confusing her!
this family is easy to jab at Me,ya know!
she doesn’t even know reality from dreams anymore,they are confusing her but she don’t know so she’s making it fit in her head! b/c thats what they want,and all she wants is to be innocent because she really is!
I must say I’m not 100% convinced she is telling the truth, but I will certainly give her the benefit of the doubt at this stage.
If she is innocent of any wrongdoing in relation to Haleigh, then what is happening to her/has happened to her is just awful. I do feel very sorry for her and wish a responsible adult had taken her under their wing before it came to this. But everyone wanted to get her, rather than help her, thanks to PCSO not solving this case and blaming that on her. Since when do LE need to rely on teenagers confessing to crimes to charge them? If they had anything on her, and they’ve had plenty of time to get it, she’d be charged.
I know her family thinks shes innocent too and say it,but listeners think its because they are her family,but i’m not and i am telling ya,she is innocent,I’d almost guarantee it!!!
brainwashing! simple,thats what it is!
i know what ya mean Me,but God if i ever believed anybody,its Misty,right now,I am not saying she isn’t lying about other stuff but about Haleigh……she’s not lying!!!!!!
I am serious,I could just bawl for her right now!
Exactly Me,they have grown men that crack in an hr!
CathyJo,
I want to see a fresh team of investigators brought in. They need to investigate all possibilities….stranger abduction, the Sheffields/Griffis etc. Haleigh needs to be found. And the person or people responsible need to face justice.
yes they do,God i wish i knew someone to help,I’d beg em,I swear i would,that girl does not know where Haleigh is!
CathyJo,
With the number of hours and times they have interviewed her, they should have had something by now…..and they don’t. She interviewed for many many hours without a lawyer present.
if you notice also,she doesn’t THINK about an answer when she’s asked a ?…….she pops it right off!
Exactly right Me,exactly……..she can’t say what she doesn’t know and I am just about to go hug OJ in person cause i think somebody has framed her big time!!
she was a minor and they waited till she wasn’t then closed in on her! they have,i will believe nothing else now unless something awfully awfully drastic with photos included is shown to me!
I myself Me could not stand there and go thru what she is without possibly thinking i did something by now??
and i don’t even know Haleigh!
i think the pcso needs a little brainwashing themselves,I am irate!
I feel sorry for Hank Sr. no one should have to be that miserable. He has made mistakes, but who hasn’t? He deserves some kind of help. If I lived there I would try to find him a job. He has so much to deal with. I can’t imagine having two kids in jail and I don’t agree with them getting by with what they have done, but I get so angry, when I see how they are treated compared to someone like linsey lohan, that just throws the law back in a judge’s face and still gets by with it..something is terribly wrong in our country.
Me,they’d have had alot more by now IF Misty knew!
Thank you for ‘getting it’ cathy..
I knew you’d come around..
you and me Maarcy,I’d like to knock the living daylights out of them people!
Tommy imo is a screwup and a liar but Misty i do believe is as innocent as the day she was born,even if Tommy did it,she don’t know that?? i can tell??
I did today OJ,and no thanks needed,i could just cry,they are destroying that little girl………
Marcy,terribly wrong!
just the way she talks to her daddy,she would break so fast if she knew,She don’t!
theres nothing to break on!
my daughters daddy,well my husband too but he could ask her one question and if she was flibbing,he knew it and she did too and she’d just admit it then,Daddys can bring it out!
sorry,i’ll brb getting to me right now,sorry
CathyJo63 said,in May 23rd, 2010 at 4:35 pm I did today OJ,and no thanks needed,i could just cry,they are destroying that little girl………
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exactly..LE focused everything on her..its a pride thing now, a political thing..doesn’t matter about guilt or innocense. LE needs someone to BURN! and its misty her family and her posse. absoutely DISPICABLE!
I am beginning to think there is more to this story than we think. and Cathy, you can say what you want to me, but if your ever down and out, you would want someone like me around. I want the person responsible for this put to death, but I want the right person caught. It just seems to me, that Misty is very gullible and does whatever she is told to do. I don’t trust Ronald on bit. I think Misty was out cold that night and doesn’t know anything. She was high out of her mind, and she crashed..I think a raid could have happened that night and she wouldn’t have known. I think she feels guilty for that and that is where her nervousness comes from. She knows she is partly to blame. They need to start looking a little harder elsewhere.
sorry cathy, I didn’t mean you,, I am on your side
I agree Marcy,I just had to step back a minute to gasp for air.
Thats what i have always said,I don’t care who goes down for it,as long as its the right one!
And i now know in my heart Misty is not guilty of hurting her,and now i am almost starting to understand why OJ has always thought the way he has!
I almost can see right now,taht somebody was an informant and the pcso is in on it with them,I agree with Me,they need somebody else to take this over from the beginning and see it till the end!
no worry Marcy, i make mistakes constantly,i knew what you meant!lol kinda hard for even me to laff right now,it really is,but i am so angry!
for close to 2 yrs?????????? this is all they have??
somebody needs to be doind some damn explaining whats goin on down there in that dang jail!
cathyjo good to see you back blogging.Since you
are an old timer. If these tapes are what they seems to be (18 year old kid LE trying to set her up)LE would not have released these. Misty
knows something. MIsty is afraid of someone and it ain’t Joe. I tell you guilty or not She has a lot more sense than Tommy. IMO I sure
would not want to sit on a jury I am so wishy-washy on this case.
15 yrs is a sweet little deal? probly see his ass laying on a beach somewhere!
she sure has alot more sense than Tommy,and 5 just like him,but i believe Misty is being brainwashed,2 yrs and this is what we see now? she knows nothing,she may be lying about being home that night but she is not lying about Haleigh………..IMO She doesn’t know!!!!
she simply doesn’t guys..omg you can see it,she desn’t even take time to answer,she just answers it,
tommy even knew she was home alone,he needed drugs,how do we know he didn;t dress in black and scare her todeath,maybe she doesnt know it was Tommy,maybe they covered her with the sheet?? threatened to kill her if she said,Haleigh wasnt tommys family,Misty was?
good to see you coop,sorry but reality set it on me and omg i just about lost it for Misty!
wasn’t being rude at all!
The new tapes today,her face,voice and all tells me she’s innocent!
There has got to be a lot more to this than we
are seeing. LE is building a case they aren’t
releasing information. If these folks are guilty and they just slap them on the wrist things are not going to get any better for them or society. I do feel bad for whomever
is not involved but where would you start the
case is crazy everybody is so shady…..
I wouldn’t want to be on the jury either,I was called maybe 5-6 times for that in ky,no way!
This one case was a woman who lost custody of her kids had padlocked her mother,dads trailer(got custody) doors from the outside,her Mentally ill brother,and her kids she burned todeath!
My fur shook when she sat right in the room with me with her attorney,welllets say i got off that case real quick!
they need to look elsewhere is what I am saying Coop,I don’t blame them for arresting them and that stuff,they had to i guess but its apparent that Misty isn’t lying now,and i am sure they see her as we do,its the same girl,ya know?
I know I feel so bad for Misty too. If she was older maybe not. Misty was a baby herself went Haleigh was abducted. Misty is not evil . She
actually read and comprends better than I thought she could. I just hope she hasn’t been protecting Ron. She pointed at Tommy and Joe before. She confuses me almost as much as my own teenagers did.
it is 1000% crazy,but starting with Misty sure didn’t help and they need to get on somebody elses case ya know? Misty doesn’t know! and here i been walking by OJ and slapped his jaws beet red,omg
she read that newspaper well didn’t she?
right Coop,i heard her say,I don’t know if that was jo that night,,got me thinking too maybe tommy dressed in black,ski mask,maybe she doesn’t know and maybe why Lindsey said tommy was in bed?
something stinks!
So Hank Sr. would sell his soul to the devil?? Think he already did, many years ago, and his life now is what it bought him…jmvho
maybe thats why Tommys blaming jo now,cuz he knows Misty dunno but wanted her to “stop making up stories”
she said,they talked about it so much and she had dreams and didn’t know whats real anymore,so sad!!!!!!!!!
If he could take it back though,I know he would,He didn’t know all that then Jnet,ya know!
I have great compassion for him and Lisa! They’re not happy at all with themselves now!
but i know they regret it more than anything!
I’d say they blame themselves more than any of us ever could Jnet,ya know?
its breaking my heart into!
I tell you Lisa Croslin will not live through
much more. If Hank lets Lisa go this on her own she will crack. As a parent I have a lot of
compassion for those two. They certainly are paying the ultimate prize. I don’t think it bothers Flo Hollars that Lisa has all this going on in her life. Flo seems to thrive on drama. Tommy seems like Flo to me.
yes Coop,i agree there,Flora shouldn’t shut her daughter out!!!!
If Hank Or Lisa live thru it i’ll be shocked,tommy has no respect whasoever.Hank told him his mom might get 90 days,he replies,ahhhhh i could do 90 days standing on my head and i pray the judge considers that at sentencing!
HIS OWN LIVING BREATHING MOTHER WHO WENT THRU EXCRUTIATING PAIN TO GIVE HIM LIFE!
AND STILL DOES TODAY BECAUSE SHE GAVE HIM LIFE,I’D SLAP THE FIRE RIGHT OUTTA HIM!
Hank Croslin spends as much as he can afford on his kids. He does have the resources to do anything but try to minutes on his phone. Like
I said my son had a little bump with the law and I was devasted. I can’t imagine if it had been a serious crime. I think it devasted me more that he was guilty than that he was in trouble. ARe there a lot of people that have fell thru the cracks like these people. I think I may have lead a sheltered life. I understand poor but it’s just the dynamics of this family. Is it drugs or lack of education.
Lisa Croslin’s family beats anything I have every seen
Oh yes Finally found everyone
CathyJo – hearing todays tapes got me thinking that Misty truly dosen’t know anything , my heart just goes out to her
OJ- make some room for me on the Misty couch cause I’m comeing over lol
coop,did you see her all nosey in the other child case in her hometown,an ole nosey neighbor who flaps on a dime is what she does!
I honestly believe Misty with all my heart and soul Chakra!!!!!!!!!!!!
something is way off somewhere!
Oj will buy roses for all of us now prolly,lol
right coop,Its the family tradition (for lack of a better word) the cycle goes on and on and i reckon flora was the same and they just never changed it maybe,hard to change when its all you know,was for me! but i know they pray to God every second to take it away and they’d do better,ya know……I know they do!!!!
cathyjo I saw her. WTH the daugher Vicki and her both sounds drunk or high on the tapes.
Flo Hollars is a work of art. I thought that if people smoked crack they were skinny. I even thought the teeth issues could be from
cigarettes and not brushing done changed my mine about all that. I feel so bad for Lisa she seems a little retarded OMG I tell you it breaks my heart this kid is missing Gosh I hope
this is a wake up call
you found us Chakra,all teary eyed and sad!
I do to, I think Ronald is still involved though
OMG You and me,But if Mistys ever out and proven innocent i’d almost guarantee you she’ll be a better mom than most we know now!
Hey Girls Hi!
Why do you think Misty’s not involved at all now? What do you think is way off?
I am so Thankful she didn’t have any of her own right now!omg to leave behind!
She’s telling the truth imo Homespain,read up and youu’ll see why i think so,cuz you don’t want me typing all that again,lol i knowwwww
it’s just obvious to me now Homespain!!
I am sad to , I’m just happy to see you , I kept missin ya yesterday lol
What kind of injustice are we witnessing. So many resources have been used to force evidence to fit LE idea of truth. I still say that these people will say or invent story’s to keep out of jail. Fair enough I ‘d to the same to prevent myself from being in jail for the prime of my life.
Chakra,and his mom!
read up and you’ll know how i think so!lol
Bio,I agree and even Misty says,she can’t tell her dreams from what they tell her she did,nothing!
They have her so confused,but imo she does not know where Haleigh is whatsoever! Its obvious now!
boy,Oj is gonna love us today,and we been smacking him,beating on him,abusing him,lol
I think we are being Misty fans when us ladies hear some of the same abuse stories that Misty
told her Dad about her relationship with Ron.
Had flashbacks that could have been either one
of us with the flip of a coin. Thank goodness
my parents had the resources to pull me and my kids out of it. Misty was trapped and afraid of Ronald. Misty has seen Ron throwing his gun around. She is protective of Lisa (as she should be). He probably threaten her folks if she every squealed on him. Misty just does not know how to cope she is way too young for that.
I’m still confused…….
Mistys so confused,she is making it fit in her head b/c she doesn’t know! Brainwashing is what they’re doing to her!
I am not sure about Tommy’s roll in this if any . He may just be one oc those creeps. I am sure that intrapment laws should be used in Mysty’s defence as I said yesterday. We could mail letters or do a petition to express our concern about her rights.
Hi homespain how are ya –
ok at this point I’m thinking this could all be orchastrated by Ron, Misty called Ron that night supposedly couldn’t get a hold of him , I don’t know I just think she can’t be that good of an actress ya know
exactly coop!
My daughter was with a man my and her dads age and he beat her on a daily basis,we tried everything there was,everything,my husband was totally disabled from a roof fall,4 weeks later this monster snuck up behind him because we wouldn’t give up on her,wouldn’t allow him to beat her and get away with it,he tried so hard to make her choose between us and him,well he took her daddys life!!!!!!
Misty doesn’t have the vocabulary to explain what’s going on in her head. I think LE questions are planting seeds of doubt. This can’t be right LE looks like such jerks. I just think we aren’t getting the big picture.
If Misty is innocent some lawyer is going to have a field day with this.
I believe tommy did it alone!imo
we learned the hard way,this man told me every day he’d take my daughter and my grandson away from me,well he tool my husband of 25 yrs! her daddy paid the ultimate to save her,
CathyJo- yes I think Theresa is involved still also
thats why i don’t care to talk about it,people need to know it does and will happen!!!!!!!
but said as soon as she opened the door there ron was Chakra?
I am sorry I don’t feel much empathy for HC or LC, if their behaviour had changed one iota, perhaps I would feel some sympathy… but the drugs and the blame and the lies are never ending.. Most adults put their children’s need first in life, I find it heart breaking to listen to Misty try to console her drug addicted father. I understand incessant swearing is a sign of a lack of education, but my gosh… to continue with the “cops are all wrong and horrible people” and his never changing story to Misty of you’re right, you’re wrong, I believe you, I don’t”, the man is not capable of two statements in 30 seconds that don’t contradict one another.
Where was he when his 16 yr old was living with a 25 yr old man? Where was he when Misty was shuffled off to GH or Chelesea, and god know where else? Perhaps my problem is I can not comprehend the sudden love fest, when it appears to have been missing during most of these children’s life. Until now? Why now?
A father’s love and remorse, or an opportunity to make a quick buck?
OMG cathyjo that is horrible. I am so lucky .
My parents kind of went thru the same thing with me. I was so afraid of him. The same thing
weapons and that kind of thing. The second wife lives the same life. He was almost an image of Ron’s behavior and ran after younger
woman
what if someone else sat outside rons work and did not answer the calls b/c they werent supposed to,howd he missem when he kept calling her too?
I’m wondering if Misty left the trailer that night she stated that she did not have a key
and if its proven coop,i hope the croslins own Satsuma!!!!!!
well now we don’t wanna go that far but i am mmad!!!!!!
right CathyJo- that many calls back and forth and no one got threw dosen’t make sense
exactly coop,my daughter was terrified!!!!!!
and you owe your parents one heck of a blessing!!!
Coop,i know i don’t have to tell you but you were lucky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats what i said to if she was guilty why not just stay asleep and let ron find her gone.he seemed to stir clear all the way around.
brb- guys
exactly,and tn was there in a flash?
maybe thats why too that tn would not babysit,they had a plan?
sotrue,yea and tn couldnt say enough good about Misty THEN!
Well if she is innocent this is not right. The only one she is afraid of is Ron. That girl has seen something that scares the mess out of her. I tell you I sure wished I had called myself wishy washy
and that video of ron on N/G now makes me see red!!! he lost his temper with Miss Nancy and she IGNORED IT?? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
YES she has,she even says i loved ronald and him and his mom told me what to say,i diid what they wanted cause i loved him,i thought it was right!
I think it looks more like Ron today than anyone else. There has to be a reason the Human Resource at that bridge company did not
work with this so called innocent father on
retaining his job. They would have given him a leave of absence or anything. Ron is a jerk
he has been getting around the system in that neck of the woods for a long time. Tommy would sell his soul for a pill. He is crazy.
not word for word but close?
Bingo Coop,imo you’re dead on!!!!!!!
n/g woulda had her hubbys head on a platter to do what ron did!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GKXlKIvd7M&feature=fvsr
watch that!
tn is very suspicious there!
I never have seen this video- didnt know TN and RC went on Maury show oct 09 and state they think Haleigh is alive- someone has her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK8oenktrOg&feature=related
she went to use the restroom?
bathroom ronald!
So cathyjo do you think that LE will make an arrest next week or this too is some kind of bait. I feel so bad for you and your family.
Just keep on with the abuse awareness . There are far too many women that don’t speak up. I don’t let but very few people know I ever
lived in that. Of course if you came from my hometown you knew because the cops were always
there and the sheriff was best friends with my
dad. I just can’t do like you do I have too many flashbacks and I don’t even know that girl anymore
Hey Chakra and Cathy – hi back. Well no, I don’t want a long version for sure. I read the most recent posts you wrote on the newest article out today.
I’ll scan this article starting with today’s comments since you’re telling me your reasoning is on this article’s comments.
I think Chakra, that if Misty did call Ron over and over it will be easy to verify. Also I do remember way back it was known that Misty did call Ron as well earlier in the evening, something related to Haleigh acting up and asking for advice from Ron.
Is anyone aware if she was calling him after 8-9 PM? I heard something about a call when he was pulling up the driveway that night. But it hasn’t been confirmed on any documents I’ve seen yet.
Depending on when she called Ron, I could see it either helping her or not at all. If the calls aren’t pinging anywhere she has a problem.
If she is calling him throughout the evening and it shows that she was home that would show someone was using the phone from home to his workplace, that would most likely be Misty.
One thing is for sure, she has pined away for Ron, and misses him, and everything else aside she will feel very betrayed by him when she realizes he is only interested in his own skin.
As I’ve said before- no matter her role in this, I do not see her purposely killing Haleigh, or letting some guy molest her. If you are molesting someone you have to hold them down. The perpetrator’s attention would be diverted and it would be real easy to get a pan, or heavy object from the bedroom and brain him.
daughter phone,brb
CathyJo63 said,
in May 23rd, 2010 at 5:48 pm
exactly coop!
My daughter was with a man my and her dads age and he beat her on a daily basis,we tried everything there was,everything,my husband was totally disabled from a roof fall,4 weeks later this monster snuck up behind him because we wouldn’t give up on her,wouldn’t allow him to beat her and get away with it,he tried so hard to make her choose between us and him,well he took her daddys life!!!!!!
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Where is that piece of chit now?
he got 6 months in co.jail,i was broke.his dad a millionaire.he lives here in tn!
Yea Kathy where is the POS
oh he was on probation,skipped out and time ran out when i called the da and p.o lasy yr on our anniversary they said they have no control on him now!
OMG See why you don’t trust the system either.
heres cobra Cricket
he is explaining why he does not believe misty was home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH__AB2_Tns&feature=related
My head is spinning from all the versions that have been told. Unreal!
I now wonder, what if Misty was passed out and the Haleigh got into something and did OD? What if TN was the one that came over to check on the kids and Haleigh was out? Maybe she called Ron and he took off work on his break and went to dispose of the body and later called on Tommy to check on Misty knowing that she was out cold? Far fetch I know…but something has been telling me since day one that what ever happen to Haleigh Ronald knew about it and so did TN.
In this audio Misty said she has been in jail for 70 days so far.
Hank Sr. said that Lindsey told her that LE checked the Duns Creek Bridge, the day before Misty’s last court date. I wonder if this tip came from Ronald?
Misty admits pretty much to failing her poly, she claims that poly’s don’t work on her. She also says she loves Ronald so much that she just did what ever he and family told her to do. She comes to tears when she says the times that she did leave Ron they would send Haleigh over to beg her to come back.
She also said she can’t wait until things come out so that people will stop talking about her. I wish that to…I wish that all the lying would stop for Haleigh’s sake.
You out to consider a civil lawsuit against them. How ever even w/ money does someone get 6 months for murder? It’s lucky that didn’t happen to me, that guy would have disappeared off this planet.
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No I don’t trust them,The cops here let him and his buddy bring the weapon in themselves 2 weeks later!
Ok guys talk to you later. I need to spend some time with the family. They have really missed me today. My husband says if Croslin news was a drug I would be the addict instead of Hank. Simon you sure gave us a fix over the past two days thanks for everything.
he has more rights than we do,honest truth! Its not just words!
I have been a prisoner for 7 yrs!
Homespain- Great point about the molestation allegation, I don’t believe it either
I personally am dying to get a hold of the phone records , would clear a lot of the speculation up!
they never even added a pic to his like the others on F.O.I.L!
unbeliveable- CathyJo I’m so sorry
HOMESPAIN,I WAS BROKE,MY ATTORNEY TOLD ME SHE DIDN’T WANT TO TIE HER MONEY UP B/C IF HIS FAMILY LEFT HIM MONEY,HE’D PUT IT IN ANOTHER NAME,HE DODGED SHILD SUPPORT FOR 12 YRS FOR HIIW OWN DTR…..STAYED ON THE RUN AND HIS OWN PARENTS DID NOT KNOW HIS ADDRESS WHEN THIS HAPPENED!
my husband died of blunt force to his head,liver,spleen,his hip was already broken from the roof fall,his rt arm was broken twice,his left arm was broken and he still snuck up behind him with a weapon he made himself!2 weeks prior!
after stating to others,witnesses,now lets see what the ole cripple can do!
Thank You Chakra,hard thing to go through,omg so hard but i refuse to be quiet when someone will listen,it should have been told along time ago but i believed the cops,the DA when they told me to speak of it to no one and they’d get him…omannnnnnnn
I never in my life even knew anyone who was murdered,i didn’t know!
Ok- read all ur comments Cathy.
money is the only justice…imo and i know you can see why!!
but he will meet justice,In God’s own time! Not mine!
i didnt mean that in caps homespain,so sorry,too late when i saw it!
Thats why i was there for Caylee everyday and now Haleigh,they’re little children,not fair!!
I want Justice for them!
CathyJo63 said,
in May 23rd, 2010 at 6:38 pm
money is the only justice…imo and i know you can see why!!
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Oh Yea, I do understand.
I would have gone after him and his parents money to pay for the lawyer.
I feel for you. Been there. I know it was not equitable what was done.
I tell you, if my son did that, I’d have likely beat him into silly putty. I would have been supporting my daughter in law and I would have helped you by making sure all his inheritance went to you, your daughter and grandchild. They sound like sickening people.
It would be interesting to confur with a lawyer in behalf of your crandchild to insure he gets what he deserves after your family was decimated.
I need to go now and will probably talk to you all in a few days. Take care all.
To justice for the innocent whom ever they may. be.
has anyone wondered why teresa is being so quiet? I mean, she sure had plenty to say before. I also always thought it was strange the way she took up for misty…Something is terribly wrong with this case…Misty is the last person, they need to be putting pressure on. I have from the beginning never believed a think Ronald said.
marcy said,in May 23rd, 2010 at 6:48 pm has anyone wondered why teresa is being so quiet? I mean, she sure had plenty to say before. I also always thought it was strange the way she took up for misty…Something is terribly wrong with this case…Misty is the last person, they need to be putting pressure on. I have from the beginning never believed a think Ronald said.
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I agree, it’s odd almost like she is in hiding. At first I thought it was because when she spoke to Ron right after he was caught selling dope, she sounded drunk as a dog or high as a kite IMO and everyone picked up on it and was talking about it all over the web. But, maybe she doesn’t want to answer anymore questions because the LE has Ron by the b@lls now and on video + the UC testimony, so she would obviously be asked Q’s about Ron’s trafficking and also trafficking outside of Jr’s daycare. She can no longer spin the “he did it to get Misty in jail” ot “was working undercover”……that’s a crock because if the LE only wanted Misty, they already had her yet they waited until they had Ron also, so I think the ones responsible for HaLeigh’s death are already in jail an LE can play games with the key players and hope the learn even a nugget of truth since they statute of limitations for murder never end. JMO
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April 11 2005 was when he was sentenced too,already spent time and absconded and free as a bird on Halloween,same yr!
TN acts very suspicious,did yall see the last video i posted for a refresher!
I agree Marcy!
i am thinking now,they need Misty to roll on ronald!
for maybe a motive?
I had never seen this video but gotta give it to the lady,i am by far no fan of cs but this was about cs “whoring” and “exploiting” her child on tv………..well,this lady has a problem with n/g doing it with the twins too,sheeeeeeeeesh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxqtfBznuEM&feature=related
Cathy my heart is heavy for the loss of your husband. His legacy will be in the sharing of your experience. Wealth can buy justice on earth but I beleave you pay here or in after life. You + your husband have taught your family that abuse won’t be tolerated even if a life is sacraficed.
Cathy in your theroy about Ron what would be the motive? Same as with Tommy yeah he is screwed up but what is the motive? I’ve been unable to read disks or some utube posts. I am using a iPod touch will have to try pc + see if I can access thst way. You really should write about your life it may have been lived in a rural setting but your experiences translate go any place North America.
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CathyJo- that bastard Will pay on the other side you may escape justice here on earth but their is no ways he can escape that Karma for long….
I agree , I think they are trying to get Misty to talk by letting her know that Ron is going to testify against her, I just hope she will, my heart sank when I heard on the tape today that she saw Ron in court and he said I love you , and you could see her heart still go soft for him
Okay , I dont usually post on here but I do alot of reading of your oppinions…Which I do find interesting and appreciate. I have been following the case since this all went down over a year ago as you all have. Here is my oppinion, even after watching the last Misty and Hank tape . I believe When Ron went to work that fateful night .Misty was having diffuctly with Haleighs behavior . I believe there is a possibility Ron told or gave Misty permission to give her a drug to sedate her so she would go to bed or calm down.A drug not doctor perscribed..some of there own stash.. This could have been a regular habit for the family to do. And previous sedations happened without a problem. Unfortunately Haleigh this time around had too much and didnt make it. Misty called Ron (Back and forth calls) Ron calls Tommy to get over there and check on the situation . They,ve got hours to decide how to play this out . I believe they made a decision to get Joe involved for the disposal. Knowing they would try to frame him if they had to.They would allow him to tranfer any of his own DNA to Haleigh durring the removal.Just in case she was found right away. But they made sure to dispose of her where alligators would make short work of her disappearance.Im not so sure about Timmys involvement . But I do believe Tommy was a big part of the brain storming in this removal and set up . I think Tommy was a threat at one point to Ron and Misty …hence rat gate (Symbolic)….I also believe if Ron was indead an informant which one has to really consider …considering the rap sheet … you would think that an accidental overdose of the child of an informant would put some LE in a sticky situation…..JMHO
MISTY MURDERED THAT CHILD MY HEART BREAKS FOR CRYSTAL AND JR AND HALEIGH AND YES RON TOO. AND MS NEVES AND MS SYKES.
It pains me to know that people like this exist. God bless all of the other little ones…the little innocent kids out there that are at the mercy of very lost, sad, broken and selfish souls.
And I think it’s time we all get on the literacy and education completion movement. Ignorance is an all too ugly, and all too common, reality in our country. I mean really. It’s painful to listen to them butcher their own native language. Yikes.
Be well =)
They all had a hand in it, be it leaving children with unfit children themselves or just standing by and doing nothing at all while drugs and guns( i bet they werent all locked up, all the time) were around. misty is the main culprit and i dont care if she was set up or nothing , she knows something or she would not have failed 4 polygraphs and acting like a spoiled child in jail, she will be in jail and LE wont give her a deal at all. Somebody needs to get tough with these people or poor haleigh will get no justice.
it doesnt even matter to me at this point if it was an accident or people were scared, thats not an excuse to keep quite all this time about a child. outrageous!
Nancy grace has her show and if people dont like it, they dont have to watch it. Simple, Alot of people running off at the mouth about this case, why not her too?
CathyJo63 said,in May 23rd, 2010 at 4:13 pm ron and tn prolly planned the bs!
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Oh, really???? Ya think?
IMO.
Sorry CathyJo, I didn’t mean to sound so sarcastic. Very few people would recognize that this scenario is possible “right off the bat.” But I LIVED it. Got rooked into keeping my mouth shut for over 35 years until at the age of 41, it suddenly hit me what had really happened one day when I was Haleigh’s age. Truth really is stranger than fiction. Misty is probably too young to realize that there are worse things than being in jail.
Okay, about having a family “scapegoat.” This is what happens with some family dynamics. Everyone bands together to protect their own, but someone is more convenient to blame because everyone just “knows” that this person has a problem, or supposedly has “gotten away with something before,” etc. So they don’t scrutinize the liar’s story very carefully. It’s too convenient. Now, I’m not saying that any of this is correct, I’m just saying this sort of thing does happen.
In my opinion.
Hello
I’m new to posting on blogs…not new to the Haleigh Cummings case or DV. I would like to thank Simon & Jan for all the hard work. Once I found this web site, I was hooked. I mostly just read the posts before bed.
Many years ago I escaped a very abusive relationship; I have also worked helping others escape from violent relationships. The number one reason women don’t leave is FEAR, number two the KIDS (even if they are not the children’s mother) they feel they have to stay to protect them. Add drugs and it becomes an even more dangerous cocktail of violence. The DVD’s between MC & Hank hit a cord with me. I feel the PCSD knows who harmed Haleigh.
Ronald Cummings fits the classic profile of an Abusive Personality.
That Monday night many of those signs were aroused in Ronald:
Jealousy: He was mad at MC for her weekend of drug cocktails & sex. He had kicked her out prior to that Monday. So why would he care what she does? Maybe MC was realizing she was only a sex toy and babysitter to RC. We have heard his family didn’t want to keep his kids anymore. So leave them with a 17 year old coming off a 3 day drug fest.
Controlling Behavior: He was losing control of MC. She did not want to keep the kids that night. On the tape we hear she says “she was wanting away from RC, but the kids kept her coming back”. I believe her, she was already feeling used. After all he kicked her out a few days before all this happened. RC would use Haleigh to lure her back.
Quick Involvement: Most abuser will start controlling behavior within less than six months. As this behavior gets worse, the abuse will become more controlling. Misty was tired of being RC’s babysitter. Remember MC refused; RC MADE her keep the kids.
Threatening Violence: MC says RC would make the threat of killing himself, as did his ex-girlfriends. They also make threats to kill their partner, to the point they stay in the relationship (when children are involved it makes it harder to leave) it seems MC really cares about kids. She gets real upset when she talks about how she felt about Haliegh. Abusers often pull this trick for attention or to stop his partner from leaving. Also, I think RC was behind the rat.
Drink or Substance Abuse: The use of drugs is signs of an abusive personality, heavy drinking or drug abuse may be a warning sign and do increase the risks of abuse, especially violence, taking place. …no doubt drugs were involved in this case.
Cruelty to Children: RC denied ever abusing his children. (Except for what DFS allows) He denies doing drugs, abusing women & knowing anything about what happen to his daughter.
Ronald Cummings knows exactly what happen to his daughter. If anyone else would have hurt Haleigh, RC would have tried killed whoever was responsible, not call 911. If MC harmed Haleigh that night (IMO) RC would have probably beat her to death, but instead he married her? So she can’t testify against him? Then he divorced her? Did he find out the marriage would not stop her from testifying against him, because they were not married at the time of Haliegh’s disappearance? (I’m not sure of the FL laws regarding this matter)
He sent ToC the message via a dead rat.
Misty Cummings is only seventeen years old that fateful night. She had no business being in a relationship with RC in the first place. She is a product of the environment she was raised in. The Croslin family has many issues. Let’s just say I don’t see Hank & Lisa winning any parenting awards. MC is the baby and the only girl. She has always been protected by the family, mostly by Hank and her brothers. Reason ToC got caught up in all this. ToC knows what happened and RC is who ToC is really scared of. ToC is protecting MC & his family, MC is protecting RC (I don’t think she will protect him for much longer). Poor Hank; is just so overwhelmed with guilt, it is killing him. He and ToC tried to get MC away from RC. Then MC runs right back to RC. Out of fear of losing her to RC, Hank caved. RC even was arrested for Battery against ToC. When, Hank and ToC went to get MC from RC’s mom’s house. MC called ToC and asked him to come get her, she want to leave RC. Only to have MC lie on her own family to the police; denied ever calling ToC. Still RC was the one arrested. (Still don’t know what happen to that case) The Croslin’s may have dropped the charges because MC was still with RC or because ToC didn’t want to testify against RC. Anyone know?
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-08-06/story/ronald_cummings_arrested_for_burglary_battery
MC has been clean and sober for a while, spending time all alone must be hell for her, with the drugs wearing off and the reality of the trouble she is in slowly sinking it. All she has to think about is RC the man she loved so deeply, is slowly turning into the pain of why is, he turning on me with plea deals. In time her feelings will turn to anger. This case will become Ronald & Misty pointing fingers at each other. Even if RC is charged with Haleigh’s murder. Misty is still going to prison for a long time for protecting Ronald. Her actions after the fact make her just as guilty as him. ToC came into the picture after the fact. In what way or how I do not know.
KathyJo63- I’m with you Misty is very young, she is confused, hurt, feeling guilty about Haleigh & scared to death. What if she did sneak out to party? Came back to find Haleigh gone, not able to get hold of RC by phone, while in a panic she opens the door and there he is. She never said what time what time it was. I don’t think she is the one who hurt Haleigh, the pain over her being gone is real.
In the last fifteen years I have met many Ronald’s and Misty’s. I have also seen women like Misty (she is one of the youngest) go to prison all in the name love.
In time she will break down, maybe let her know she is looking at way more the 15 years at a boot camp. We all know she don’t like jail. Let her know what prison will be like, it is not what she thinks it will be. Hank is right Misty is too young to understand just what she is up against.
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